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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+<PRE>Le 2010-11-17 20:14, Graham Lauder a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Greetings Ladies and Gents,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am back, my hand is 50 % healed but at least it's out of it's cast and I can
+</I>&gt;<i> type at better than 1 character per second. My father was ambidextrous, not
+</I>&gt;<i> sure why he didn't pass that on to me it would have been most useful over the
+</I>&gt;<i> last month or so.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Vision and Mission to be finalised, we are only a smidgin short of having a
+</I>&gt;<i> short list to present to the founders. Mission should follow in pretty short
+</I>&gt;<i> order.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looking at the logos, lots of submissions, thankfully they have narrowed
+</I>&gt;<i> themselves down to three or four artists pretty much automatically IMNSHO
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> More opinion on that in another mail, just so good to be back into it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> GL
+</I>Hi Graham:
+
+Nice to see you back.
+
+Cheers
+
+Marc
+
+--
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+and greetings again Yorick!
+
+There's talk on the Artwork list about our two teams doing some stuff
+together - has anyone had any communication with/from them? Maybe we
+should have an irc meeting or something, because the logo decision is
+kind of imminent...
+
+(I don't like that little pimple-on-a-camel's-ass &quot;cauldron&quot; one
+little bit. Hope it's not The One.)
+
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+ <B>Graham Lauder</B>
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+<PRE>On Thursday 02 December 2010 06:32:29 Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and greetings again Yorick!
+</I>
+
+OK That was a weird double post moment, Not sure how that happened, apologies
+for absence, tis amazing how much it takes to catch up on work that gets put
+on hold when a hand is useless. I had to bring in help which is mildly
+annoying.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's talk on the Artwork list about our two teams doing some stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> together - has anyone had any communication with/from them? Maybe we
+</I>&gt;<i> should have an irc meeting or something, because the logo decision is
+</I>&gt;<i> kind of imminent...
+</I>
+OK let's look at it from a marketing POV, laying aside aesthetics and personal
+taste. I shall look things up.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (I don't like that little pimple-on-a-camel's-ass &quot;cauldron&quot; one
+</I>&gt;<i> little bit. Hope it's not The One.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>
+Vision and mission statement need a bit more work as well, we need to make
+progress on that.
+
+Cheers
+GL
+
+
+
+Graham Lauder,
+OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
+<A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A>
+
+INGOTs Moderator New Zealand
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+ <B>Graham Lauder</B>
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+<PRE>On Monday 22 November 2010 01:13:56 Marcello Anni wrote:
+&gt;<i> hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i> nice to have our own mailing-list : ) in which status is our marketing
+</I>&gt;<i> plan? what should we still do? pease, let me know
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcello
+</I>
+Hi Marcello,
+
+SMP will come a little later once we have branding in place
+
+But certainly post ideas here.
+
+Cheers
+
+GL
+Graham Lauder,
+OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
+<A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A>
+
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+<PRE>On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 03:59, Graham Lauder &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">yorick_ at openoffice.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thursday 02 December 2010 06:32:29 Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There's talk on the Artwork list about our two teams doing some stuff
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> together - has anyone had any communication with/from them? Maybe we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should have an irc meeting or something, because the logo decision is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kind of imminent...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK let's look at it from a marketing POV, laying aside aesthetics and personal
+</I>&gt;<i> taste. &#160;I shall look things up.
+</I>
+Yes, please bring your views about the orange list so all founders can
+have them (<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/mgaorange/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/mgaorange/</A> - or you may
+get proposals from the red list back into it if there's a good reason
+for this - don't tag them, just tell me and we will buidl a yellow
+list for the vote with orange+new onse) because indeed, final vote was
+expected for this week-end (we may delay for the vote to happen next
+week).
+
+Sorry not to have notified you in a more precise way, I kind of
+expected that all views would surface on the -discuss mailing-list as
+well.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 03:59, Graham Lauder &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">yorick_ at openoffice.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thursday 02 December 2010 06:32:29 Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; There's talk on the Artwork list about our two teams doing some stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; together - has anyone had any communication with/from them? Maybe we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; should have an irc meeting or something, because the logo decision is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; kind of imminent...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; OK let's look at it from a marketing POV, laying aside aesthetics and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; personal taste. I shall look things up.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, please bring your views about the orange list so all founders can
+</I>&gt;<i> have them (<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/mgaorange/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/mgaorange/</A> - or you may
+</I>&gt;<i> get proposals from the red list back into it if there's a good reason
+</I>&gt;<i> for this - don't tag them, just tell me and we will buidl a yellow
+</I>&gt;<i> list for the vote with orange+new onse) because indeed, final vote was
+</I>&gt;<i> expected for this week-end (we may delay for the vote to happen next
+</I>&gt;<i> week).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry not to have notified you in a more precise way, I kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> expected that all views would surface on the -discuss mailing-list as
+</I>&gt;<i> well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+No problems, Only Gejobi, AlexN83 and Ofaurax have contributions that fit
+all the ideal criteria from my POV. Scaleability, Uniqueness and
+attractiveness I would look amongst those submissions pick one device that
+seems the best and most popular I think there has been enough discussion to
+get a handle on the communities feel and then throw that back to only those
+three artists and say &quot;Give us a proposal&quot; Select the artist with best
+rendition by community vote and then get that artist to design pallet, banners
+CD labels and so on with the assistance of the rest of the art project.
+
+
+Cheers
+GL
+
+&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
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+<PRE>On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 13:32, Graham Lauder &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">yorick_ at openoffice.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Only Gejobi, AlexN83 and Ofaurax have contributions that fit
+</I>&gt;<i> all the ideal criteria from my POV. &#160;Scaleability, Uniqueness and
+</I>&gt;<i> attractiveness &#160;I would look amongst those submissions pick one device that
+</I>&gt;<i> seems the best and most popular I think there has been enough discussion to
+</I>&gt;<i> get a handle on the communities feel
+</I>
+Ok, great. So, to be specific, there are severals of these, that means
+those proposals fit for you:
+ * AlexN83:
+ - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5141934927/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5141934927/</A>
+ - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5095733855/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5095733855/</A>
+ - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5081228522/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5081228522/</A>
+ - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5063070488/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5063070488/</A>
+ * Gejobi:
+ - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5008234829/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5008234829/</A>
+ - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5012718103/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5012718103/</A> (variants
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5078260989/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5078260989/</A> )
+ - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5053406283/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5053406283/</A>
+ * ofaurax:
+ - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A>
+
+Can I give this to founders as the team POV or other proposals caught
+for anyone else?
+
+
+&gt;<i> and then throw that back to only those
+</I>&gt;<i> three artists and say &quot;Give us a proposal&quot; &#160;Select the artist with best
+</I>&gt;<i> rendition by community vote and then get that artist to design pallet, banners
+</I>&gt;<i> CD labels and so on with the assistance of the rest of the art project.
+</I>
+Well, we expect to sort one final entry by Monday. We'll see with
+founders if we amend this but I'm not sure.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 13:32, Graham Lauder &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">yorick_ at openoffice.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Only Gejobi, AlexN83 and Ofaurax have contributions that fit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> all the ideal criteria from my POV. &#160;Scaleability, Uniqueness and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> attractiveness &#160;I would look amongst those submissions pick one device
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that seems the best and most popular I think there has been enough
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> discussion to get a handle on the communities feel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, great. So, to be specific, there are severals of these, that means
+</I>&gt;<i> those proposals fit for you:
+</I>&gt;<i> * AlexN83:
+</I>&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5141934927/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5141934927/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5095733855/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5095733855/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5081228522/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5081228522/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5063070488/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5063070488/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> * Gejobi:
+</I>&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5008234829/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5008234829/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5012718103/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5012718103/</A> (variants
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5078260989/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5078260989/</A> )
+</I>&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5053406283/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5053406283/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> * ofaurax:
+</I>&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can I give this to founders as the team POV or other proposals caught
+</I>&gt;<i> for anyone else?
+</I>
+I'm fine with this; I don't personally like the ofaurax one, but that
+doesn't matter - lots of the community members like it!
+
+I do think this next bit is important:
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> and then throw that back to only those
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> three artists and say &quot;Give us a proposal&quot; &#160;Select the artist with best
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rendition by community vote and then get that artist to design pallet,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> banners CD labels and so on with the assistance of the rest of the art
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> project.
+</I>
+Also to the point: ask them please to get their successful logo in line
+with the requirements if it isn't already (alexn83 logos are all very
+close to Mandriva colours, have stars etc, for instance).
+
+&gt;<i> Well, we expect to sort one final entry by Monday. We'll see with
+</I>&gt;<i> founders if we amend this but I'm not sure.
+</I>
+Shouldn't be necessary, should it? The community only really likes a small
+subset, and only a small subset of the community actually commented...!
+
+Cheers,
+
+TrishF42
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+&gt;<i> I do think this next bit is important:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and then throw that back to only those
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> three artists and say &quot;Give us a proposal&quot; &#160;Select the artist with best
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rendition by community vote and then get that artist to design pallet,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> banners CD labels and so on with the assistance of the rest of the art
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also to the point: ask them please to get their successful logo in line
+</I>&gt;<i> with the requirements if it isn't already (alexn83 logos are all very
+</I>&gt;<i> close to Mandriva colours, have stars etc, for instance).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, we expect to sort one final entry by Monday. We'll see with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> founders if we amend this but I'm not sure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shouldn't be necessary, should it? The community only really likes a small
+</I>&gt;<i> subset, and only a small subset of the community actually commented...!
+</I>
+Not sure if we understand each other here?
+
+I mean, the plan now is: to have the founders vote and decide the
+final logo; then have it refined* and handed out to the association
+and be used. Not to ask the top three preferred to refine again and
+put these up to community comments again and then only vote. That's
+why your input on proposals is important now, today.
+
+* refined here means indeed: removal of any non-matching element,
+proposing potential colour schemes or tracks to improve the logo in
+the further term for the artwork (and/or the original author) to use
+or develop from.
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i> I mean, the plan now is: to have the founders vote and decide the
+</I>&gt;<i> final logo; then have it refined* and handed out to the association
+</I>&gt;<i> and be used. Not to ask the top three preferred to refine again and
+</I>&gt;<i> put these up to community comments again and then only vote. That's
+</I>&gt;<i> why your input on proposals is important now, today.
+</I>
+Thanks Romain - we're on the same page, yes!
+
+Cheers,
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+ <B>Graham Lauder</B>
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+<PRE>On Friday 03 December 2010 02:41:09 Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 13:32, Graham Lauder &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">yorick_ at openoffice.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Only Gejobi, AlexN83 and Ofaurax have contributions that fit
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; all the ideal criteria from my POV. Scaleability, Uniqueness and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; attractiveness I would look amongst those submissions pick one device
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that seems the best and most popular I think there has been enough
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; discussion to get a handle on the communities feel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, great. So, to be specific, there are severals of these, that means
+</I>&gt;<i> those proposals fit for you:
+</I>&gt;<i> * AlexN83:
+</I>
+ Good scaleability, high score for uniqueness, perhaps a little complex
+&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5141934927/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5141934927/</A>
+</I>
+Too complex, relies too much on the &quot;M&quot;
+&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5095733855/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5095733855/</A>
+</I>
+This one I like, but without the star, good scaleability and uniqueness
+&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5081228522/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5081228522/</A>
+</I>
+Nope, to much detail
+&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5063070488/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5063070488/</A>
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> * Gejobi:
+</I>Nope, too detailed, not scaleable
+&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5008234829/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5008234829/</A>
+</I>
+Has potential, cube is a common device, may lose it on uniqueness
+&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5012718103/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5012718103/</A> (variants
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5078260989/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5078260989/</A> )
+</I>
+
+Scores high on both uniqueness and scaleability, I'd like to see colour
+variations, very high potential I like the &quot;strength&quot; and &quot;solidity&quot; of the
+motif
+&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5053406283/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5053406283/</A>
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> * ofaurax:
+</I>
+
+Scalebility and uniqueness is good, Not quite there in aesthetic terms. I'd
+like to see variations on this theme. I think this possibly has the greatest
+potential
+&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> Can I give this to founders as the team POV or other proposals caught
+</I>&gt;<i> for anyone else?
+</I>
+Yes certainly, these guys have done very well across the variations. Damned
+impressive to have so many with such high potential.
+
+Cheers
+GL
+
+Graham Lauder,
+OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
+<A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A>
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+<PRE>Hi Zikkle speaking here,
+
+I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information
+about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.
+Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with
+them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.
+Are there other dutch speaking people involved in the Mageia Marketing team.
+How can I donate money? How and where can I meet Mageia Marketing people in
+real life and not just
+the internet. Does the Mageia marketing team intend not only visit the
+FOSDEM in Brussels in February 2011, but also other kind of events. Does
+Mageia try to reach a broader user base than only (hardcore) nerds? Are
+there plans to open meeting points and demonstration rooms for showing
+people the Mageia-distribution. Are there plans to have a Mageia CDEES such
+as Ubuntu have? What are the planned release cycle of Mageia? How long will
+Mageia be supported by updates?
+
+Yours Sincerely,
+
+Zikkle
+
+ a Dutch person interested in the Mageia marketing team
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+</I>&gt;<i> From: suikerstroop &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">suikerstroop at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Zikkle speaking here,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information
+</I>&gt;<i> about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.
+</I>&gt;<i> Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with
+</I>&gt;<i> them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.
+</I>&gt;<i> Are there other dutch speaking people involved in the Mageia Marketing
+</I>&gt;<i> team.
+</I>&gt;<i> How can I donate money? How and where can I meet Mageia Marketing people in
+</I>&gt;<i> real life and not just
+</I>&gt;<i> the internet. Does the Mageia marketing team intend not only visit the
+</I>&gt;<i> FOSDEM in Brussels in February 2011, but also other kind of events. Does
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia try to reach a broader user base than only (hardcore) nerds? Are
+</I>&gt;<i> there plans to open meeting points and demonstration rooms for showing
+</I>&gt;<i> people the Mageia-distribution. Are there plans to have a Mageia CDEES such
+</I>&gt;<i> as Ubuntu have? What are the planned release cycle of Mageia? How long will
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia be supported by updates?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yours Sincerely,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Zikkle
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> a Dutch person interested in the Mageia marketing team
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000011.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="11">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000015.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="15">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000017.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="17">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000019.html">[Mageia-marketing] Logos (was I'm back)
+</A><A NAME="19">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000023.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3
+</A><A NAME="23">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hellnest.fuah at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000022.html">[Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</A><A NAME="22">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000018.html">[Mageia-marketing] Logos (was I'm back)
+</A><A NAME="18">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>trish at thefrasers.org
+</I>
+
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+ <p>
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+ <b>Messages:</b> 13<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000011.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="11">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000012.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="12">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000013.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="13">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000014.html">[Mageia-marketing] hi to all
+</A><A NAME="14">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000015.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="15">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000016.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="16">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000017.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="17">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000018.html">[Mageia-marketing] Logos (was I'm back)
+</A><A NAME="18">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>trish at thefrasers.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000019.html">[Mageia-marketing] Logos (was I'm back)
+</A><A NAME="19">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000020.html">[Mageia-marketing] Logos (was I'm back)
+</A><A NAME="20">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000021.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="21">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000022.html">[Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</A><A NAME="22">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000023.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3
+</A><A NAME="23">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hellnest.fuah at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
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+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Dec 24 14:33:48 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 13<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000014.html">[Mageia-marketing] hi to all
+</A><A NAME="14">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000011.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="11">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000012.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="12">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000013.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="13">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000015.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="15">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000016.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="16">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000017.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="17">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000021.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="21">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000018.html">[Mageia-marketing] Logos (was I'm back)
+</A><A NAME="18">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>trish at thefrasers.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000019.html">[Mageia-marketing] Logos (was I'm back)
+</A><A NAME="19">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000020.html">[Mageia-marketing] Logos (was I'm back)
+</A><A NAME="20">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000023.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3
+</A><A NAME="23">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hellnest.fuah at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000022.html">[Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</A><A NAME="22">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
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+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01291211255- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000011.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="11">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01291224749- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000012.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="12">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01291224749-01291258764- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000013.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="13">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01291224749-01291258764-01291285463- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000015.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="15">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01291224749-01291258764-01291285463-01291293154- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000016.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="16">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291224749-01291258764-01291285463-01291293154-01291297269- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000017.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="17">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291224749-01291258764-01291285463-01291293154-01291297269-01291299805- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000018.html">[Mageia-marketing] Logos (was I'm back)
+</A><A NAME="18">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>trish at thefrasers.org
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291224749-01291258764-01291285463-01291293154-01291297269-01291299805-01291300467- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000019.html">[Mageia-marketing] Logos (was I'm back)
+</A><A NAME="19">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291224749-01291258764-01291285463-01291293154-01291297269-01291299805-01291300467-01291316183- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000020.html">[Mageia-marketing] Logos (was I'm back)
+</A><A NAME="20">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01291224749-01291258764-01291285463-01291293154-01291297269-01291323095- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000021.html">[Mageia-marketing] I'm back
+</A><A NAME="21">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01291258852- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000014.html">[Mageia-marketing] hi to all
+</A><A NAME="14">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01293113781- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000022.html">[Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</A><A NAME="22">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01293197628- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000023.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3
+</A><A NAME="23">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hellnest.fuah at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Anyone%20else%20here%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20101116190931.157d59e0%40andromeda.localdomain%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Anyone else here?">trish at thefrasers.org
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Tue Nov 16 19:09:31 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Hi all!
+
+Must just test that this works, say hi, and ask: what are we up to?
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Anyone%20else%20here%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikYN96v19r%3DHUHr-LZU0Xp9Ag0oWhhNfN6Mc4vL%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Anyone else here?">rdalverny at gmail.com
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+ <I>Tue Nov 16 22:51:14 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Hi Patricia,
+
+On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 19:09, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Must just test that this works, say hi, and ask: what are we up to?
+</I>
+So far, there are three subscribers to this list, including you,
+Glamboyr and me.
+
+I guess we can mail people who registered on the wiki page for this team?
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+Cheers,
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Must just test that this works, say hi, and ask: what are we up
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So far, there are three subscribers to this list, including you,
+</I>&gt;<i> Glamboyr and me.
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+</I>&gt;<i> I guess we can mail people who registered on the wiki page for this
+</I>&gt;<i> team?
+</I>
+Great idea - there are some who weren't on the mails going round, who
+won't know about the list.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+Marc
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+&gt;<i> Just a hello from myself to the list. Glad to have this mailist.
+</I>
+I sent a reminder out to the people - or some of them - that I hope
+we'll see on this list; as of yesterday I don't think many people had
+joined.
+
+It seems like our fine start has kind of stalled; do you know what
+we should be doing now?
+
+The artwork team is having a meeting on IRC (19:00 CET 17/11/10), and
+discussing the logo - I'm just observing, but I wonder if marketing
+shouldn't be being a bit more active around the logo decision?
+
+Cheers,
+
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 19:30, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> It seems like our fine start has kind of stalled; do you know what
+</I>&gt;<i> we should be doing now?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The artwork team is having a meeting on IRC (19:00 CET 17/11/10), and
+</I>&gt;<i> discussing the logo - I'm just observing, but I wonder if marketing
+</I>&gt;<i> shouldn't be being a bit more active around the logo decision?
+</I>
+Definitely your input will be important.
+
+I posted to some pre-list people a summary about the process last
+week-end, had not much feedback. I guess we should have opened this
+marketing ml sooner... and we still have others to open at this time.
+I will post tomorrow on -discuss the logo selection process and a
+short list for discussion in the coming 7 days. And that should make
+things start.
+
+You can check this evening artwork meeting notes here:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=meetings#artwork_team">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=meetings#artwork_team</A>
+
+Feedback welcome.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+I am back, my hand is 50 % healed but at least it's out of it's cast and I can
+type at better than 1 character per second. My father was ambidextrous, not
+sure why he didn't pass that on to me it would have been most useful over the
+last month or so.
+
+Vision and Mission to be finalised, we are only a smidgin short of having a
+short list to present to the founders. Mission should follow in pretty short
+order.
+
+Looking at the logos, lots of submissions, thankfully they have narrowed
+themselves down to three or four artists pretty much automatically IMNSHO
+
+More opinion on that in another mail, just so good to be back into it.
+
+Cheers
+GL
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+<PRE>Le 2010-11-18 02:28, Graham Lauder a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Greetings Ladies and Gents,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am back, my hand is 50 % healed but at least it's out of it's cast and I can
+</I>&gt;<i> type at better than 1 character per second. My father was ambidextrous, not
+</I>&gt;<i> sure why he didn't pass that on to me it would have been most useful over the
+</I>&gt;<i> last month or so.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Vision and Mission to be finalised, we are only a smidgin short of having a
+</I>&gt;<i> short list to present to the founders. Mission should follow in pretty short
+</I>&gt;<i> order.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looking at the logos, lots of submissions, thankfully they have narrowed
+</I>&gt;<i> themselves down to three or four artists pretty much automatically IMNSHO
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> More opinion on that in another mail, just so good to be back into it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> GL
+</I>Nice to have you back! :-)
+
+Cheers
+
+Marc
+
+--
+Marc Par&#233;
+<A HREF="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</A>
+
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+
+&gt;<i> I am back, my hand is 50 % healed but at least it's out of it's
+</I>&gt;<i> cast and I can type at better than 1 character per second. My
+</I>&gt;<i> father was ambidextrous, not sure why he didn't pass that on to me
+</I>&gt;<i> it would have been most useful over the last month or so.
+</I>
+Good to have you back, hope we don't re-injure your hand!
+
+Looking forward to getting back into it - the first alpha release
+isn't far off, is it?
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
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+do nov 18 18:20:27 CET 2010
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+andromeda up 0 hour(s), 23 min.
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] hi to all">marcello.anni at alice.it
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+<PRE>hi guys,
+nice to have our own mailing-list : ) in which status is our marketing plan?
+what should we still do? pease, let me know
+
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+cheers,
+Marcello
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+ <B>Graham Lauder</B>
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+<PRE>Greetings Ladies and Gents,
+
+I am back, my hand is 50 % healed but at least it's out of it's cast and I can
+type at better than 1 character per second. My father was ambidextrous, not
+sure why he didn't pass that on to me it would have been most useful over the
+last month or so.
+
+Vision and Mission to be finalised, we are only a smidgin short of having a
+short list to present to the founders. Mission should follow in pretty short
+order.
+
+Looking at the logos, lots of submissions, thankfully they have narrowed
+themselves down to three or four artists pretty much automatically IMNSHO
+
+More opinion on that in another mail, just so good to be back into it.
+
+Cheers
+GL
+--
+Graham Lauder,
+OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
+<A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A>
+
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000003.html">[Mageia-marketing] Hello
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+<I>Marc Par&#233;
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+On 03/31/2011 02:04 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 02:03, Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 03/30/2011 11:29 AM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:31, Romain d'Alverny
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 DVD (32 or 64bit)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yeah, that's not going to happen. the 32 bit will be 32 bit, while the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 64 bit will be dual arch (below).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Very, very few Distros ship a pure 64 bit GNU/Linux, and Mageia isn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> going to be one of them, FYI.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well there may be some misunderstanding here; that's two separate things:
+</I>&gt;<i> * dual arch hosts both 32bit and 64bit installs, of which you decide
+</I>&gt;<i> on install;
+</I>
+Yes I understand what you're saying there, although calling it dual
+arch, in comparison to what other distros refer to when using that term,
+I think may be a little confusing.
+
+But I understand what you are trying to convey with that moniker.
+
+&gt;<i> * 64bit DVD is a full install DVD for 64bit architectures - yes,
+</I>&gt;<i> there are some 32bit dependencies still used, but there are fewer of
+</I>&gt;<i> them; the intent/direciton is a pure 64bit thing - whatever time it
+</I>&gt;<i> takes.
+</I>
+This is the point I was bringing up. A quick tour through git repo's and
+it becomes quickly apparent the the 64 bit version is dual arch, with
+the full complement of 32 bit libraries and compiler support for 32 bit
+apps.
+
+And there's quite a bit more than a little. There's really no way to
+accurately determine just how long it will have to remain that way, or
+if the actual direction will end up completely eliminating 32 bit
+enabled libs, gcc, etc.
+
+There's a huge amount of software out there that just won't do prime
+time in 64 at this point in time. Right off the top of my head some of
+those in the higher profile category currently include:
+
+Wine
+Skype
+Google Earth
+
+and hundreds of common utilities and tools barely maintained, some part
+of Gnu, but most independant, like bing, for example, a little tool I
+use in scripts for monitoring bandwidth, and a host of others.
+
+As we all move forward in time, yes, there will be very little need for
+Mageia or any other distro to maintain dual arch support in the 64 bit
+versions of their distros, but there's a lot of 32 bit enabled aspects
+of the upcoming Mageia '64' that is going to be there for a long time.
+
+I run a pure 64bit OS on a few of my systems, on the servers it's not
+that big a deal, SAMBA, APACHE, MySQL/MariaDB, NFS, DNS - these
+definately aren't issues, and it is conceivable (If we were willing to
+leave out a few items) that we could have a pure 64 bit server edition,
+although it probably still wouldn't be prudent at this time, to garner
+the widest acceptance.
+
+But anything along the line of a workstation platform would be severly
+hurt by not providing support for 32 and 64 bit ready applications.
+
+I'm still running the beta version of 64 bit Flash plugin on my laptop
+workstation, and although I haven't checked to see if the stable version
+has actually been released yet, I do find the beta version sufficiently
+stable - but it looks like most beta software in that respect isn't
+going to be included w/Mageia 1.
+
+Eliminating support for 32bit architecture apps would mean no
+Quickbooks, Dreamweaver, Fireworks, (maybe even Adobe Reader - I'm not
+actually sure about that one because I use xpdf and okular).
+
+For those reasons, the decision isn't really up for a peopled decision,
+and is indeed reflected in our repos.
+
+i.e., From an average consumers point of view, coming from say, MS
+Windows, I think the perception would be that 32 bit would be 32 bit,
+while 64 bit would support 32 bit as well - instead of choosing an
+install that *either only* supports pure 32 bit or pure 64 bit
+installations.
+
+It took us a long time to completely migrate away from 16 bit apps, and
+there's still remnants here and there where you need that environment -
+only for support of old DOS programs, but neverhteless, needed [by some] :)
+
+Bringing up the topic wasn't a suggestion on my part, it was just a
+statement about how things really are laid out in Mageia.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ennael tells me we ought to re-explain what is expected in these
+</I>&gt;<i> formats. But of course, after beta1, we will hold a survey to sort
+</I>&gt;<i> through expectations of the final formats we will release in June.
+</I>
+Oh yes we've ample time to finalize what we're going to call each
+packaged spin of our distro :)
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.760.666.2703 (US)
+TEL: +44.702.405.1909 (UK)
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+
+As has been in Mandriva it will be like this (among other possible
+editions like liveCD or liveDVD, whatever):
+
+1 DVD which installs a 32-Bit system
+1 DVD which installs a 64-Bit system, including the needed 32-bit things.
+
+This second DVD is not a &quot;dual-arch&quot; because it can only install on
+one arch: a 64-bit system. Try to boot a 32-bit system with that DVD
+and you get an error. It only has 32-bit software which is needed for
+a complete range of applications. And, yes, you are right, we will see
+these additional 32-bit pieces in 64-bit desktop systems for a long
+time to come.
+
+A &quot;dual-arch&quot; medium means a medium which can install a 32-bit or a
+64-bit system, depending on the hardware - this is what Mandriva and
+Mageia are providing with a minimal range of software to use for later
+net installation of selected apps or other purposes of a minimal
+system.
+
+Of course it would be possible to supply a &quot;server edition&quot; with pure
+64-bit software only + additional server related software. Time will
+tell if this is something we can do (matter of ressources) besides the
+desktop edition which will be the main 'product'.
+
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+Two things to be written - the release announcement, and the wrapper
+words for the testing day procedure (to make a testing day
+announcement).
+
+Help welcome!
+
+Testing day is Friday/Saturday (08/09-04-11), and we want to announce
+it on release day (tomorrow) and propagate the announcement widely.
+
+Comms plan: release announcement/testing day announcement
+
+What: release (alpha, beta or otherwise)
+
+Who to: Mageia community
+ Open source communities
+ wider community
+
+How: Mageia blog
+ Distrowatch
+ slashdot
+ other tech news sites
+ Mageia lists - ask list members to forward it to their
+communities (any we've missed) and i18n team, propagate in their
+languages please
+
+Content: what's being released
+ what's new
+ where to go to get it
+ welcome to new users
+ encourage new makers / contributors
+ about Mageia
+
+Extra for testing day:
+ damsweb's testing procedure
+ inside marcomm wrapper
+
+Time to write: marcomm bit, ready by 05-04-11
+ testing wrapper, soon as I see damsweb's doc
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
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+2011/4/4 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Two things to be written - the release announcement, and the wrapper
+</I>&gt;<i> words for the testing day procedure (to make a testing day
+</I>&gt;<i> announcement).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Help welcome!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Testing day is Friday/Saturday (08/09-04-11), and we want to announce
+</I>&gt;<i> it on release day (tomorrow) and propagate the announcement widely.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Comms plan: release announcement/testing day announcement
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What: release (alpha, beta or otherwise)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Who to: Mageia community
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Open source communities
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;wider community
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How: &#160; &#160;Mageia blog
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Distrowatch
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;slashdot
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;other tech news sites
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Mageia lists - ask list members to forward it to their
+</I>&gt;<i> communities (any we've missed) and i18n team, propagate in their
+</I>&gt;<i> languages please
+</I>
+I'd structure this a little bit different, although we mean the same:
+
+The &quot;Who&quot; is quite clear: the main announcer (ennael?)
+Text proposed by marcomm.
+
+Where:
+
+ - internally
+ - - Blog
+ - - Forum
+ - - Mageia lists
+
+ - externally
+ - - Distrowatch
+ - - slashdot
+ - - other sites
+
+ - through i18n:
+ - - translations of the blog and the download page (as has been done
+for previous announcements)
+ - - spreading the announcement to local communities (lists, forums),
+local news sites and online magazines
+
+&gt;<i> Content: &#160;what's being released
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;what's new
+</I> - with link to the release notes
+
+&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;where to go to get it
+</I> - link to the download page
+
+&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;welcome to new users
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;encourage new makers / contributors
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;about Mageia
+</I>
+To achieve worldwide attention (we should reach this until final) it
+should all be spread within a very tight time span, on the same day.
+People must be plastered with the Mageia announcement, wherever they
+look at that day.
+
+For the future we should implement a procedure where such
+announcements will be sent to the translators 1 day in advance.
+
+&gt;<i> Extra for testing day:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;damsweb's testing procedure
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;inside marcomm wrapper
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Time to write: marcomm bit, ready by 05-04-11
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;testing wrapper, soon as I see damsweb's doc
+</I>
+The same procedure in spreading as for the beta announcement,
+following as a sequel - people have to regard both announcements as
+related, the testing day as a follow-up to the release.
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>2011/4/5 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Comments inside:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2011/4/4 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Two things to be written - the release announcement, and the wrapper
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> words for the testing day procedure (to make a testing day
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> announcement).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Help welcome!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Testing day is Friday/Saturday (08/09-04-11), and we want to announce
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it on release day (tomorrow) and propagate the announcement widely.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Comms plan: release announcement/testing day announcement
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What: release (alpha, beta or otherwise)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Who to: Mageia community
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Open source communities
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;wider community
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How: &#160; &#160;Mageia blog
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Distrowatch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;slashdot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;other tech news sites
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Mageia lists - ask list members to forward it to their
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> communities (any we've missed) and i18n team, propagate in their
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> languages please
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd structure this a little bit different, although we mean the same:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The &quot;Who&quot; is quite clear: the main announcer (ennael?)
+</I>&gt;<i> Text proposed by marcomm.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Where:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- internally
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- - Blog
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- - Forum
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- - Mageia lists
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- externally
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- - Distrowatch
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- - slashdot
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- - other sites
+</I>
+Not forgetting facebook, twitter and all others! :)
+
+&gt;<i> &#160;- through i18n:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- - translations of the blog and the download page (as has been done
+</I>&gt;<i> for previous announcements)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- - spreading the announcement to local communities (lists, forums),
+</I>&gt;<i> local news sites and online magazines
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Content: &#160;what's being released
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;what's new
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- with link to the release notes
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;where to go to get it
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- link to the download page
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;welcome to new users
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;encourage new makers / contributors
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;about Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To achieve worldwide attention (we should reach this until final) it
+</I>&gt;<i> should all be spread within a very tight time span, on the same day.
+</I>&gt;<i> People must be plastered with the Mageia announcement, wherever they
+</I>&gt;<i> look at that day.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the future we should implement a procedure where such
+</I>&gt;<i> announcements will be sent to the translators 1 day in advance.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Extra for testing day:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;damsweb's testing procedure
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;inside marcomm wrapper
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Time to write: marcomm bit, ready by 05-04-11
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;testing wrapper, soon as I see damsweb's doc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The same procedure in spreading as for the beta announcement,
+</I>&gt;<i> following as a sequel - people have to regard both announcements as
+</I>&gt;<i> related, the testing day as a follow-up to the release.
+</I>
+--
+wobo
+</PRE>
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+&gt;<i> Comments inside:
+</I>
+Thanks Wobo... now, you got any way of magicking up some more people
+to do it? 8-)
+
+I'm happy to use your wording, not forgetting that it has to be done
+*today*.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE>Hi Wobo,
+
+&gt;<i> Comments inside:
+</I>
+And mine:
+
+&gt;<i> 2011/4/4 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Two things to be written - the release announcement, and the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wrapper words for the testing day procedure (to make a testing day
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; announcement).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Help welcome!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Testing day is Friday/Saturday (08/09-04-11), and we want to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; announce it on release day (tomorrow) and propagate the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; announcement widely.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Comms plan: release announcement/testing day announcement
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What: release (alpha, beta or otherwise)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Who to: Mageia community
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Open source communities
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;wider community
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; How: &#160; &#160;Mageia blog
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Distrowatch
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;slashdot
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;other tech news sites
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Mageia lists - ask list members to forward it to their
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; communities (any we've missed) and i18n team, propagate in their
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; languages please
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd structure this a little bit different, although we mean the
+</I>&gt;<i> same:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The &quot;Who&quot; is quite clear: the main announcer (ennael?)
+</I>&gt;<i> Text proposed by marcomm.
+</I>
+The who I meant is &quot;to whom are we speaking with this announcement?&quot;
+
+From the roadmap, this release is for: packagers, developers, testers
+(as per Alphas 1 and 2) and (new) test users.
+
+So, are we unleashing Beta 1 on the general public? How public do we
+want this announcement to be?
+
+Next: the text of the actual announcement vs. the marketing/comms
+text; where do we get hold of the actual announcement to write up a
+release notice that a) refers to the announcement and b) can be
+released?
+
+Next: who should see the marcomm text before it gets released, to say
+yea/nay?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Where:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - internally
+</I>&gt;<i> - - Blog
+</I>&gt;<i> - - Forum
+</I>&gt;<i> - - Mageia lists
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - externally
+</I>&gt;<i> - - Distrowatch
+</I>&gt;<i> - - slashdot
+</I>&gt;<i> - - other sites
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - through i18n:
+</I>&gt;<i> - - translations of the blog and the download page (as has been
+</I>&gt;<i> done for previous announcements)
+</I>&gt;<i> - - spreading the announcement to local communities (lists,
+</I>&gt;<i> forums), local news sites and online magazines
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Content: &#160;what's being released
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;what's new
+</I>&gt;<i> - with link to the release notes
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;where to go to get it
+</I>&gt;<i> - link to the download page
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;welcome to new users
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;encourage new makers / contributors
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;about Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To achieve worldwide attention (we should reach this until final) it
+</I>&gt;<i> should all be spread within a very tight time span, on the same day.
+</I>&gt;<i> People must be plastered with the Mageia announcement, wherever they
+</I>&gt;<i> look at that day.
+</I>
+Yep. And today is release day, so I need to get cracking...
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the future we should implement a procedure where such
+</I>&gt;<i> announcements will be sent to the translators 1 day in advance.
+</I>
+*If* I can get the info above, I'll have something for people to look
+at/critique/translate by early afternoon. If not, not.
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Extra for testing day:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;damsweb's testing procedure
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;inside marcomm wrapper
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Time to write: marcomm bit, ready by 05-04-11
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;testing wrapper, soon as I see damsweb's doc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The same procedure in spreading as for the beta announcement,
+</I>&gt;<i> following as a sequel - people have to regard both announcements as
+</I>&gt;<i> related, the testing day as a follow-up to the release.
+</I>
+Sure...
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+di apr 5 07:03:32 CEST 2011
+GNU/Linux 1997-2010 #283226 counter.li.org
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+<PRE>2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/4/4 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Two things to be written - the release announcement, and the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; wrapper words for the testing day procedure (to make a testing day
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; announcement).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Help welcome!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Testing day is Friday/Saturday (08/09-04-11), and we want to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; announce it on release day (tomorrow) and propagate the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; announcement widely.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Comms plan: release announcement/testing day announcement
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; What: release (alpha, beta or otherwise)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Who to: Mageia community
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Open source communities
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;wider community
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; How: &#160; &#160;Mageia blog
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Distrowatch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;slashdot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;other tech news sites
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Mageia lists - ask list members to forward it to their
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; communities (any we've missed) and i18n team, propagate in their
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; languages please
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd structure this a little bit different, although we mean the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> same:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The &quot;Who&quot; is quite clear: the main announcer (ennael?)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Text proposed by marcomm.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The who I meant is &quot;to whom are we speaking with this announcement?&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From the roadmap, this release is for: packagers, developers, testers
+</I>&gt;<i> (as per Alphas 1 and 2) and (new) test users.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, are we unleashing Beta 1 on the general public? How public do we
+</I>&gt;<i> want this announcement to be?
+</I>
+Beginning with the Beta I'd go for general and public in full swing.
+Like all other distros do.
+
+&gt;<i> Next: the text of the actual announcement vs. the marketing/comms
+</I>&gt;<i> text; where do we get hold of the actual announcement to write up a
+</I>&gt;<i> release notice that a) refers to the announcement and b) can be
+</I>&gt;<i> released?
+</I>
+Why do you see 2 documents? The actual announcement is what will be
+published everywhere. What do you mean with &quot;release notice&quot;? I
+understood that this time you will compile it and send it to ennael to
+be published.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Where:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- internally
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- - Blog
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- - Forum
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- - Mageia lists
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- externally
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- - Distrowatch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- - slashdot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- - other sites
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- through i18n:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- - translations of the blog and the download page (as has been
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> done for previous announcements)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- - spreading the announcement to local communities (lists,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> forums), local news sites and online magazines
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Content: &#160;what's being released
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;what's new
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- with link to the release notes
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;where to go to get it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- link to the download page
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;welcome to new users
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;encourage new makers / contributors
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;about Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To achieve worldwide attention (we should reach this until final) it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should all be spread within a very tight time span, on the same day.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> People must be plastered with the Mageia announcement, wherever they
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> look at that day.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep. And today is release day, so I need to get cracking...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For the future we should implement a procedure where such
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> announcements will be sent to the translators 1 day in advance.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> *If* I can get the info above, I'll have something for people to look
+</I>&gt;<i> at/critique/translate by early afternoon. If not, not.
+</I>
+No, not this time. The official announcement will be made in the blog
+and all i18n groups will use this.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Extra for testing day:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;damsweb's testing procedure
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;inside marcomm wrapper
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Time to write: marcomm bit, ready by 05-04-11
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;testing wrapper, soon as I see damsweb's doc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The same procedure in spreading as for the beta announcement,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> following as a sequel - people have to regard both announcements as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> related, the testing day as a follow-up to the release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sure...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+</I>&gt;<i> 52.4161N,16.9303E
+</I>&gt;<i> di apr &#160;5 07:03:32 CEST 2011
+</I>&gt;<i> GNU/Linux 1997-2010 #283226 counter.li.org
+</I>&gt;<i> andromeda up 13 hour(s), 6 min.
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel 2.6.33.7-desktop-2mnb
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Comments inside:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks Wobo... now, you got any way of magicking up some more people
+</I>&gt;<i> to do it? 8-)
+</I>
+To do what?
+Translators and local spreaders are the same and they are ready to go.
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 02:46, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/4/4 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> The &quot;Who&quot; is quite clear: the main announcer (ennael?)
+</I>
+Well, it can be distributed as well, as to who is spreading the message.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Content: &#160;what's being released
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;what's new
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- with link to the release notes
+</I>
+Link to release notes (in English):
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso1:beta1_release_notes">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso1:beta1_release_notes</A> (text to
+be updated of course, that's a rough edited copy of alpha2 RN).
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;where to go to get it
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- link to the download page
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/downloads/">http://mageia.org/en/downloads/</A> (not working yet, working on it, will
+open this afternoon before release announcement. Not localized either
+yet, will be done afterwise, when things are square).
+
+&gt;<i> The same procedure in spreading as for the beta announcement,
+</I>&gt;<i> following as a sequel - people have to regard both announcements as
+</I>&gt;<i> related, the testing day as a follow-up to the release.
+</I>
+I would pre-announce test day on the download page, after download has
+started (among other informations), no? That is, only, of course, if
+we have online doc relative to that, otherwise we'd remove the early
+notice.
+
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+<PRE>2011/4/5 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 02:46, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/4/4 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The &quot;Who&quot; is quite clear: the main announcer (ennael?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, it can be distributed as well, as to who is spreading the message.
+</I>
+Yes
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Content: &#160;what's being released
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;what's new
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- with link to the release notes
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Link to release notes (in English):
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso1:beta1_release_notes">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso1:beta1_release_notes</A> (text to
+</I>&gt;<i> be updated of course, that's a rough edited copy of alpha2 RN).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;where to go to get it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- link to the download page
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/downloads/">http://mageia.org/en/downloads/</A> (not working yet, working on it, will
+</I>&gt;<i> open this afternoon before release announcement. Not localized either
+</I>&gt;<i> yet, will be done afterwise, when things are square).
+</I>
+The link to the download page is important to be in the announcement.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> The same procedure in spreading as for the beta announcement,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> following as a sequel - people have to regard both announcements as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> related, the testing day as a follow-up to the release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would pre-announce test day on the download page, after download has
+</I>&gt;<i> started (among other informations), no? That is, only, of course, if
+</I>&gt;<i> we have online doc relative to that, otherwise we'd remove the early
+</I>&gt;<i> notice.
+</I>
+If needed we have one more day to announce the test day (Friday - 2
+days = Wednesday).
+
+--
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;where to go to get it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- link to the download page
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/downloads/">http://mageia.org/en/downloads/</A> (not working yet, working on it, will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> open this afternoon before release announcement. Not localized either
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> yet, will be done afterwise, when things are square).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The link to the download page is important to be in the announcement.
+</I>
+Yep. And actually, we will use <A HREF="http://mageia.org/downloads/">http://mageia.org/downloads/</A>
+(redirection after supported locales will be done there).
+
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:35, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;where to go to get it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- link to the download page
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/downloads/">http://mageia.org/en/downloads/</A> (not working yet, working on it, will
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> open this afternoon before release announcement. Not localized either
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> yet, will be done afterwise, when things are square).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The link to the download page is important to be in the announcement.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep. And actually, we will use <A HREF="http://mageia.org/downloads/">http://mageia.org/downloads/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> (redirection after supported locales will be done there).
+</I>
+Could you pls notice i18n as soon as localisation can start?
+
+--
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> 2011/4/5 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:35, Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;where to go to get it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#160;- link to the download page
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/downloads/">http://mageia.org/en/downloads/</A> (not working yet, working on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; it, will open this afternoon before release announcement. Not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; localized either yet, will be done afterwise, when things are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; square).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The link to the download page is important to be in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; announcement.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yep. And actually, we will use <A HREF="http://mageia.org/downloads/">http://mageia.org/downloads/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (redirection after supported locales will be done there).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could you pls notice i18n as soon as localisation can start?
+</I>
+I'm feeling a bit confused here.
+
+Is there actually anything wanted from the marcomm team of 1, or not?
+
+If not, then is there a reason to have the team at all?
+
+Cheers...
+
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+&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/4/5 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:35, Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;where to go to get it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#160;- link to the download page
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/downloads/">http://mageia.org/en/downloads/</A> (not working yet, working on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; it, will open this afternoon before release announcement. Not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; localized either yet, will be done afterwise, when things are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; square).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The link to the download page is important to be in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; announcement.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Yep. And actually, we will use <A HREF="http://mageia.org/downloads/">http://mageia.org/downloads/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; (redirection after supported locales will be done there).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could you pls notice i18n as soon as localisation can start?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm feeling a bit confused here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there actually anything wanted from the marcomm team of 1, or not?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If not, then is there a reason to have the team at all?
+</I>
+I just read that the ISOs are uploaded.
+I thought marcoms task was to compile and send the announcements for
+blog, forum, mailing lists?
+Or did I get that wrong?
+
+--
+wobo
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+&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/4/5 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:35, Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;where to go to get it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#160;- link to the download page
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/downloads/">http://mageia.org/en/downloads/</A> (not working yet, working on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; it, will open this afternoon before release announcement. Not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; localized either yet, will be done afterwise, when things are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; square).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The link to the download page is important to be in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; announcement.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Yep. And actually, we will use <A HREF="http://mageia.org/downloads/">http://mageia.org/downloads/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; (redirection after supported locales will be done there).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could you pls notice i18n as soon as localisation can start?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm feeling a bit confused here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there actually anything wanted from the marcomm team of 1, or not?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If not, then is there a reason to have the team at all?
+</I>
+My point of view for now :) :
+
+We should prepare all process for beta2 and next releases. Time is a
+bit short for beta1. It took time to release isos and on my side I'm
+just finalizing things. What I suggest is formalize this for beta2.
+WDYT ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+</I>&gt;<i> 52.4161N,16.9303E
+</I>&gt;<i> di apr &#160;5 19:13:27 CEST 2011
+</I>&gt;<i> GNU/Linux 1997-2010 #283226 counter.li.org
+</I>&gt;<i> andromeda up 0 hour(s), 53 min.
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel 2.6.33.7-desktop-2mnb
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+&gt;<i> 2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2011/4/5 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:35, Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;where to go to get it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#160;- link to the download page
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/downloads/">http://mageia.org/en/downloads/</A> (not working yet, working on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; it, will open this afternoon before release announcement. Not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; localized either yet, will be done afterwise, when things are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; square).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; The link to the download page is important to be in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; announcement.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Yep. And actually, we will use <A HREF="http://mageia.org/downloads/">http://mageia.org/downloads/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; (redirection after supported locales will be done there).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Could you pls notice i18n as soon as localisation can start?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm feeling a bit confused here.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is there actually anything wanted from the marcomm team of 1, or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; not?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If not, then is there a reason to have the team at all?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My point of view for now :) :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We should prepare all process for beta2 and next releases. Time is a
+</I>&gt;<i> bit short for beta1. It took time to release isos and on my side I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> just finalizing things. What I suggest is formalize this for beta2.
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYT ?
+</I>
+Sounds good. Marcomm needs *lots* more input and feedback from the
+council about what's expected; we need council support to get an
+actual team rebuilt - and we need to get that process formalised, yes.
+
+I'm out of town from the middle of tomorrow until the weekend, but
+I'd like to get started on the pre-Beta 2 stuff at the start of next
+week; how does that sound?
+
+Cheers,
+
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+di apr 5 20:09:56 CEST 2011
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+andromeda up 1 hour(s), 50 min.
+kernel 2.6.33.7-desktop-2mnb
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+<PRE>2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2011/4/5 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:35, Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;where to go to get it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#160;- link to the download page
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/downloads/">http://mageia.org/en/downloads/</A> (not working yet, working on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; it, will open this afternoon before release announcement. Not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; localized either yet, will be done afterwise, when things are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; square).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; The link to the download page is important to be in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; announcement.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Yep. And actually, we will use <A HREF="http://mageia.org/downloads/">http://mageia.org/downloads/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; (redirection after supported locales will be done there).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Could you pls notice i18n as soon as localisation can start?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I'm feeling a bit confused here.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Is there actually anything wanted from the marcomm team of 1, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; not?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; If not, then is there a reason to have the team at all?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My point of view for now :) :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We should prepare all process for beta2 and next releases. Time is a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bit short for beta1. It took time to release isos and on my side I'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just finalizing things. What I suggest is formalize this for beta2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> WDYT ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds good. Marcomm needs *lots* more input and feedback from the
+</I>&gt;<i> council about what's expected; we need council support to get an
+</I>&gt;<i> actual team rebuilt - and we need to get that process formalised, yes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm out of town from the middle of tomorrow until the weekend, but
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to get started on the pre-Beta 2 stuff at the start of next
+</I>&gt;<i> week; how does that sound?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I'm looking forward to your ideas. From my point of view there isn't
+that much to organize:
+
+1. Announcement for forum, blog and mailing lists has/have to be
+written (who does this?)
+
+2. Announcements have to be sent to these internal platforms (who does this?)
+
+3. Entries in /. and DW have to be made/sent (who does this?)
+
+4. Announcements will be localized and spread worldwide by i18n
+
+What else?
+
+--
+wobo
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+&gt;<i> 2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 2011/4/5 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:35, Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;where to go to get it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#160;- link to the download page
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/downloads/">http://mageia.org/en/downloads/</A> (not working yet, working
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; on it, will open this afternoon before release
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; announcement. Not localized either yet, will be done
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; afterwise, when things are square).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; The link to the download page is important to be in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; announcement.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Yep. And actually, we will use <A HREF="http://mageia.org/downloads/">http://mageia.org/downloads/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; (redirection after supported locales will be done there).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Could you pls notice i18n as soon as localisation can start?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; I'm feeling a bit confused here.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Is there actually anything wanted from the marcomm team of 1,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; or not?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; If not, then is there a reason to have the team at all?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; My point of view for now :) :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; We should prepare all process for beta2 and next releases. Time
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; is a bit short for beta1. It took time to release isos and on my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; side I'm just finalizing things. What I suggest is formalize
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; this for beta2. WDYT ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sounds good. Marcomm needs *lots* more input and feedback from the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; council about what's expected; we need council support to get an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; actual team rebuilt - and we need to get that process formalised,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; yes.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm out of town from the middle of tomorrow until the weekend, but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'd like to get started on the pre-Beta 2 stuff at the start of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; next week; how does that sound?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm looking forward to your ideas. From my point of view there isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> that much to organize:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Announcement for forum, blog and mailing lists has/have to be
+</I>&gt;<i> written (who does this?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Announcements have to be sent to these internal platforms (who
+</I>&gt;<i> does this?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Entries in /. and DW have to be made/sent (who does this?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. Announcements will be localized and spread worldwide by i18n
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What else?
+</I>
+Announcement doesn't just have to be written - it needs to be written
+in time to be passed back to the community for filtering, sanity
+checking and to find out whether the community likes the way it's
+being presented. So, it's at least a 2-step process, maybe more.
+
+Before anything can be written (at least, before anything approaching
+sensible can be written), the writer needs to have some idea what
+they're writing about, and who their readership is (see my first post
+early today). It's not good enough to assume that they're writing to
+current members of the community who already know enough to fill in
+the gaps or who know the context; from everything I've seen since day
+1, we also want at some stage to talk to people outside our community
+- that means communicating with people who don't know the context or
+enough to fill in the gaps.
+
+Sending oughtn't really to be done until we decide where. Do we stick
+with the standards of geek community/social media and hope for the
+best; do we add mainstream media, and if so, who are we talking to
+and what message are we trying to convey? How inclusive will we be,
+and are we ready for the possiblity of a large influx of
+users/developers/testers; how's our community going to hold up if we
+have a lot of sudden change?
+
+So, before we do your points 1 &amp; 2, there's some thinking and prep to
+do - possibly quite a lot.
+
+On points 2 and 3, we could perhaps do with some kind of Mageia
+Persona to send out information - a press@ or communications@ persona
+(which could have anyone at the back end; this persona could submit
+stories to /., the fb page, send tweets and issue press releases to
+all and sundry. Just a thought.
+
+The mechanism of spreading is the last stage of the journey - there's
+quite a bit to do before that. Once there's something to spread, and
+a clear notion of where it's to go and who should send it (and who
+should do backup to fill the holes), it's fairly straightforward.
+
+What if we get TV interest? Who will handle that and how much backup
+will they need/want from marcomm?
+
+We'd like to make a splash with the final release of Mageia 1,
+wouldn't we? Will we be ready?
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+di apr 5 20:54:38 CEST 2011
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+andromeda up 2 hour(s), 35 min.
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+thoughts never occurred to me because they were obvious until now.
+
+2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Announcement doesn't just have to be written - it needs to be written
+</I>&gt;<i> in time to be passed back to the community for filtering, sanity
+</I>&gt;<i> checking and to find out whether the community likes the way it's
+</I>&gt;<i> being presented. So, it's at least a 2-step process, maybe more.
+</I>
+Hmm, how many people you want to ask what has to be written in an
+announcement of a new version? Isn't it quite clear what has to be
+addressed?
+
+What is the difference between an announcement to the community and
+one going to the outside world? An Announcement has to say
+ - who announces
+ - what is tha subject of the announcement
+
+For a release this means
+ - version and date (making a point in being on schedule, if so)
+ - main points like new versions of major software or some innovative
+technology or whatever is the main &quot;killer&quot; of the release
+ - if it's a test release (alpha, beta, rc) say something about the
+main focus of this test release
+
+Then the usual info:
+ - errata page
+ - release notes
+ - download (what and where)
+ - other informational pages of the project, contact info
+
+What of these points would you change depending on the target, which
+targets, are there different targets at all? See next paragraph.
+
+&gt;<i> Sending oughtn't really to be done until we decide where. Do we stick
+</I>&gt;<i> with the standards of geek community/social media and hope for the
+</I>&gt;<i> best;
+</I>
+We never did. We always tried to send release announcements out to
+everybody, geek or not geek (I'm relating to former Mandriva
+communication policy, around 2003-2005). As I already wrote, we spread
+to the geek targets but also to the general IT crowd, private users
+and professionals. Best examples are /., Distrowatch, online and print
+magazines.
+
+&gt;<i> On points 2 and 3, we could perhaps do with some kind of Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> Persona to send out information - a press@ or communications@ persona
+</I>&gt;<i> (which could have anyone at the back end; this persona could submit
+</I>&gt;<i> stories to /., the fb page, send tweets and issue press releases to
+</I>&gt;<i> all and sundry. Just a thought.
+</I>
+Yes, detaching press work to some more persons than those who do it
+now would be nice - when we will find such persons. But parts of this
+is already done by several people.
+
+&gt;<i> What if we get TV interest? Who will handle that and how much backup
+</I>&gt;<i> will they need/want from marcomm?
+</I>
+This depends 1. on the occasion (local), 2 on the language, 3. on the
+kind of coverage the tv company wants to do (more general, more
+technical, etc.
+
+May be you are coming from the marketing side which results in
+different views, I have no relation to marketing in this context (I
+mean marketing in a non-profit world).
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>Hi Wobo,
+
+&gt;<i> All this reads very insightful and I do admit that some of your
+</I>&gt;<i> thoughts never occurred to me because they were obvious until now.
+</I>
+It's a whole nother art form, true.
+
+&gt;<i> 2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Announcement doesn't just have to be written - it needs to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; written in time to be passed back to the community for filtering,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sanity checking and to find out whether the community likes the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; way it's being presented. So, it's at least a 2-step process,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; maybe more.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm, how many people you want to ask what has to be written in an
+</I>&gt;<i> announcement of a new version? Isn't it quite clear what has to be
+</I>&gt;<i> addressed?
+</I>
+One man's clarity is another woman's obscurity... 8-). If we're
+representing a community - which is what I think Mageia's marketing
+is doing, in part - it's good to know whether or not the community
+feels comfortable with the way they're being represented. It's also
+good if the community feels that marketing is actually a useful
+and valuable part of the community.
+
+You could check out the last time Yorick and the discuss list had a
+conversation, to get a really unmistakable feel for this - I should
+probably not need to point out that the shrinkage to not-quite-zero
+of the marketing team can be traced back to that conversation. A
+pity, because we were full of energy and working hard and well.
+
+&gt;<i> What is the difference between an announcement to the community and
+</I>&gt;<i> one going to the outside world? An Announcement has to say
+</I>&gt;<i> - who announces
+</I>&gt;<i> - what is tha subject of the announcement
+</I>
+It's all in who you're talking to. If you're talking to a community
+of which you're part, you're talking to people who are already on the
+inside - there's an existing relationship of a kind, and they know
+the context and what's going on and who's who. If you're talking to
+people who aren't part of the community yet, you're extending an
+invitation. You want to present them with a picture of the community
+you're inviting them into (which the community doesn't need), and
+give them reasons that might lead them to come investigate joining -
+or they might just take the community's output and still not join...
+or they might think: no thanks.
+
+&gt;<i> For a release this means
+</I>&gt;<i> - version and date (making a point in being on schedule, if so)
+</I>&gt;<i> - main points like new versions of major software or some
+</I>&gt;<i> innovative technology or whatever is the main &quot;killer&quot; of the
+</I>&gt;<i> release
+</I>&gt;<i> - if it's a test release (alpha, beta, rc) say something about the
+</I>&gt;<i> main focus of this test release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then the usual info:
+</I>&gt;<i> - errata page
+</I>&gt;<i> - release notes
+</I>&gt;<i> - download (what and where)
+</I>&gt;<i> - other informational pages of the project, contact info
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What of these points would you change depending on the target, which
+</I>&gt;<i> targets, are there different targets at all? See next paragraph.
+</I>
+It's all in how it's expressed. Suppose you're a person who is on the
+fringes of the FLOSS community - you've tried Ubuntu, but there are
+so *many* Ubuntu people it's scary to try to join in. You
+might or mightn't be a coder; you might also be a potential tester, or
+documenter, or...
+
+Would you feel like joining, if you felt like the announcement was
+exclusive, geeky, very plain-ordinary and didn't actually say: we're
+looking for people. Please join us - we have room in our community
+for people with all sorts of interests and talents. We need you! -
+you mightn't. It might all feel just a bit too elite.
+
+On the other hand, if you're an established coder, this kind of
+&quot;soft&quot; approach might make you wonder whether you'd be comfortable
+here - do people actually code, or package, or do anything really
+interesting to me? or am I going to get stuck being a marketroid?
+
+On the gripping hand...
+
+You see what I mean, I bet.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Sending oughtn't really to be done until we decide where. Do we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; stick with the standards of geek community/social media and hope
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for the best;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We never did. We always tried to send release announcements out to
+</I>&gt;<i> everybody, geek or not geek (I'm relating to former Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> communication policy, around 2003-2005). As I already wrote, we
+</I>&gt;<i> spread to the geek targets but also to the general IT crowd,
+</I>&gt;<i> private users and professionals. Best examples are /., Distrowatch,
+</I>&gt;<i> online and print magazines.
+</I>
+Yep. It was moderately successful. It could have been more so; it
+could be for us. It all depends what the community wants to have
+happen.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; On points 2 and 3, we could perhaps do with some kind of Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Persona to send out information - a press@ or communications@
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; persona (which could have anyone at the back end; this persona
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; could submit stories to /., the fb page, send tweets and issue
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; press releases to all and sundry. Just a thought.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, detaching press work to some more persons than those who do it
+</I>&gt;<i> now would be nice - when we will find such persons. But parts of
+</I>&gt;<i> this is already done by several people.
+</I>
+I'd separate here the &quot;persona&quot; which could have anyone behind it
+from the people who do any communication with people outside the
+community (or in it, for that matter, from the &quot;function&quot; of
+co-ordinating, writing and disseminating targeted, on-point and
+well-constructed information about Mageia, whether graphical or
+verbal (or audio, or Braille, or what-have-you). I was positing a
+&quot;persona&quot;; I do think the
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; What if we get TV interest? Who will handle that and how much
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; backup will they need/want from marcomm?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This depends 1. on the occasion (local), 2 on the language, 3. on
+</I>&gt;<i> the kind of coverage the tv company wants to do (more general, more
+</I>&gt;<i> technical, etc.
+</I>
+I'd like to see marcomm be multilingual in time - maybe working
+together with i18n, which is currently very technically-focussed. The
+linguistic needs of marketing are a little different from those of
+package translators (who need to be very precise) and documenters
+(who need a different kind of precision and communication) - it would
+be good to have marcomm/i18n people who could look for the marketing
+nuance as they translated (like it would be good to have documenters
+ditto).
+
+What you get TV to do for you (we/us) depends entirely on how well
+you target your approach to them - same as anything marketing. If you
+can give them an angle that will help them sell advertising, they'll
+look at you. So it depends on the kind of program you want to target.
+
+What I was wondering about, though, was: suppose we're successful in
+getting a TV spot? What then?
+
+&gt;<i> May be you are coming from the marketing side which results in
+</I>&gt;<i> different views, I have no relation to marketing in this context (I
+</I>&gt;<i> mean marketing in a non-profit world).
+</I>
+Marketing is the same whether commercial or otherwise - it's about
+getting the message out. First decide what you want it to be;
+second, construct it; third, spread it. Simplified, but that's the
+job.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+di apr 5 22:16:13 CEST 2011
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+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Yes, detaching press work to some more persons than those who do
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it now would be nice - when we will find such persons. But parts
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of this is already done by several people.
+</I>
+I'd separate here the &quot;persona&quot; which could have anyone behind it
+from the people who do any communication with people outside the
+community (or in it, for that matter), from the &quot;function&quot; of
+co-ordinating, writing and disseminating targeted, on-point and
+well-constructed information about Mageia, whether graphical or
+verbal (or audio, or Braille, or what-have-you).
+
+I was positing a &quot;persona&quot;; I do think the &quot;function&quot; part is also
+important and it would be nice to plan for that as we plan to grow
+the marcomm team.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+
+On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 22:38, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> You could check out the last time Yorick and the discuss list had a
+</I>&gt;<i> conversation, to get a really unmistakable feel for this - I should
+</I>&gt;<i> probably not need to point out that the shrinkage to not-quite-zero
+</I>&gt;<i> of the marketing team can be traced back to that conversation. A
+</I>&gt;<i> pity, because we were full of energy and working hard and well.
+</I>
+Yeah but the direction it was taking at the time was not in sync with
+the project state - that is, going too far, too soon. Talking to
+non-users as of today (especially those not aware of Mageia or even
+Linux) is important, and growing our user-base - although this needs
+to scale with regard to the amount of contributors we do need today.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> What is the difference between an announcement to the community and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> one going to the outside world? An Announcement has to say
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- who announces
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what is tha subject of the announcement
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's all in who you're talking to. If you're talking to a community
+</I>&gt;<i> of which you're part, you're talking to people who are already on the
+</I>&gt;<i> inside - there's an existing relationship of a kind, and they know
+</I>&gt;<i> the context and what's going on and who's who. If you're talking to
+</I>&gt;<i> people who aren't part of the community yet, you're extending an
+</I>&gt;<i> invitation. You want to present them with a picture of the community
+</I>&gt;<i> you're inviting them into (which the community doesn't need),
+</I>
+I'd say yes, it needs it. Because a community (especially an online
+one) has a hard time figuring who/what it is I believe - and that's
+where the inviting/human/friendly theme is common to both insiders and
+outsiders of the project.
+
+Representing the community to itself properly (far beyond the online
+text-only interface we daily use) is a must to aim at. Through
+stories, ad-hoc project online/offline activity visibility, and
+probably other things.
+
+&gt;<i> What I was wondering about, though, was: suppose we're successful in
+</I>&gt;<i> getting a TV spot? What then?
+</I>
+We'd do something. Not necessarily the best thing for the very but
+something that promotes the core of the project: free software,
+collaboration, commons - that's something that everyone can share,
+geek or non-geek. Something focused more on the core values driving
+the project than on a project specific.
+
+I'm sure we can do it.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, how many people you want to ask what has to be written in an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> announcement of a new version? Isn't it quite clear what has to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> addressed?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One man's clarity is another woman's obscurity... 8-). If we're
+</I>&gt;<i> representing a community - which is what I think Mageia's marketing
+</I>&gt;<i> is doing, in part - it's good to know whether or not the community
+</I>&gt;<i> feels comfortable with the way they're being represented. It's also
+</I>&gt;<i> good if the community feels that marketing is actually a useful
+</I>&gt;<i> and valuable part of the community.
+</I>
+And how do you want to do this in practice? Announce the draft of an
+announcement?
+
+&gt;<i> You could check out the last time Yorick and the discuss list had a
+</I>&gt;<i> conversation, to get a really unmistakable feel for this - I should
+</I>&gt;<i> probably not need to point out that the shrinkage to not-quite-zero
+</I>&gt;<i> of the marketing team can be traced back to that conversation. A
+</I>&gt;<i> pity, because we were full of energy and working hard and well.
+</I>
+Hmm, I can't say much about that, it was going to deep into an area I
+am not comfortable with.
+
+&gt;<i> It's all in who you're talking to. If you're talking to a community
+</I>&gt;<i> of which you're part, you're talking to people who are already on the
+</I>&gt;<i> inside - there's an existing relationship of a kind, and they know
+</I>&gt;<i> the context and what's going on and who's who. If you're talking to
+</I>&gt;<i> people who aren't part of the community yet, you're extending an
+</I>&gt;<i> invitation. You want to present them with a picture of the community
+</I>&gt;<i> you're inviting them into (which the community doesn't need), and
+</I>&gt;<i> give them reasons that might lead them to come investigate joining -
+</I>&gt;<i> or they might just take the community's output and still not join...
+</I>&gt;<i> or they might think: no thanks.
+</I>
+What you say makes sense but I still don't see the difference. Read
+previous announcements, they all were targeted at the whole crowd,
+saying geeky things but also trying to establish a relation, asking
+the people to join the fun and all that jazz.
+
+&gt;<i> Would you feel like joining, if you felt like the announcement was
+</I>&gt;<i> exclusive, geeky, very plain-ordinary and didn't actually say: we're
+</I>&gt;<i> looking for people. Please join us - we have room in our community
+</I>&gt;<i> for people with all sorts of interests and talents. We need you! -
+</I>&gt;<i> you mightn't. It might all feel just a bit too elite.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> On the other hand, if you're an established coder, this kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;soft&quot; approach might make you wonder whether you'd be comfortable
+</I>&gt;<i> here - do people actually code, or package, or do anything really
+</I>&gt;<i> interesting to me? or am I going to get stuck being a marketroid?
+</I>
+IMHO announcements have to be both, not distinguishing between target
+groups. You can do such a distinction when you hold a conference. You
+know what type of people will be in the audience and you compile your
+speech according to that. You can make a distinction in an article
+about Mageia, you know what kind of people will usually read the
+magazine, so you write the article speaking to them in their language.
+But we are talking about an announcement of a release here, aimed at everybody.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> We never did. We always tried to send release announcements out to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> everybody, geek or not geek (I'm relating to former Mandriva
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> communication policy, around 2003-2005). As I already wrote, we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> spread to the geek targets but also to the general IT crowd,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> private users and professionals. Best examples are /., Distrowatch,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> online and print magazines.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Yep. It was moderately successful. It could have been more so; it
+</I>&gt;<i> could be for us. It all depends what the community wants to have
+</I>&gt;<i> happen.
+</I>
+Hmm, I think you don't know what we did then, may be not in the
+english Mandrake websites but in some localized areas. Well, what the
+community wants to have happen? What do you think? They want to
+
+ - get the feeling that it is their distribution, that they are part of it.
+ - see success, Mageia becoming what Mandrake was for a short time.
+
+&gt;<i> I'd separate here the &quot;persona&quot; which could have anyone behind it
+</I>&gt;<i> from the people who do any communication with people outside the
+</I>&gt;<i> community (or in it, for that matter, from the &quot;function&quot; of
+</I>&gt;<i> co-ordinating, writing and disseminating targeted, on-point and
+</I>&gt;<i> well-constructed information about Mageia, whether graphical or
+</I>&gt;<i> verbal (or audio, or Braille, or what-have-you). I was positing a
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;persona&quot;; I do think the...
+</I>
+Well, this depends on what you mean exactly. Of course it would be
+nice to have an ideal setup:
+ - all technical and organisational people will report constantly to
+marcom about what they are doing in detail
+ - marcom is perfectly understanding what those people are talking
+about so marcom can communicate with the press.
+
+As of now we haven't this setup. So, press questions (like request for
+an interview) are done by the person who can do it best. You want to
+change that?
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; What if we get TV interest? Who will handle that and how much
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; backup will they need/want from marcomm?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This depends 1. on the occasion (local), 2 on the language, 3. on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the kind of coverage the tv company wants to do (more general, more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> technical, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to see marcomm be multilingual in time - maybe working
+</I>&gt;<i> together with i18n, which is currently very technically-focussed. The
+</I>&gt;<i> linguistic needs of marketing are a little different from those of
+</I>&gt;<i> package translators (who need to be very precise) and documenters
+</I>&gt;<i> (who need a different kind of precision and communication) - it would
+</I>&gt;<i> be good to have marcomm/i18n people who could look for the marketing
+</I>&gt;<i> nuance as they translated (like it would be good to have documenters
+</I>&gt;<i> ditto).
+</I>
+Depends what you mean with documents. Id you are talking about manuals
+and HowTos there is no room for marketing, neither in authoring nor in
+translation.
+
+Back to that tv show: as I said, it will depend on the occasion. A tv
+station in France will obviously talk to french people, a tv station
+in Berlin will obviously talk to somebody speaking German, etc. In
+such an interview you can't say, &quot;Cut, I have to ask our marcom team
+what to say.&quot;
+
+&gt;<i> What you get TV to do for you (we/us) depends entirely on how well
+</I>&gt;<i> you target your approach to them - same as anything marketing. If you
+</I>&gt;<i> can give them an angle that will help them sell advertising, they'll
+</I>&gt;<i> look at you. So it depends on the kind of program you want to target.
+</I>
+This is quite different depending where you are and what type of tv
+station it is. I've done some (radio and tv) in Germany, the occasions
+that they are waiting for you are rare because a Linux distribution is
+no real news to get excited over.
+
+&gt;<i> What I was wondering about, though, was: suppose we're successful in
+</I>&gt;<i> getting a TV spot? What then?
+</I>
+This is a very different thing. There you are on the spot with all
+your thoughts about targets and all other stuff. Because advertizing
+is always a question of target.
+
+&gt;<i> Marketing is the same whether commercial or otherwise - it's about
+</I>&gt;<i> getting the message out. First decide what you want it to be;
+</I>&gt;<i> second, construct it; third, spread it. Simplified, but that's the
+</I>&gt;<i> job.
+</I>
+That's all what I was talking about. :)
+
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+<PRE>2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is the difference between an announcement to the community and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> one going to the outside world? An Announcement has to say
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- who announces
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what is tha subject of the announcement
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's all in who you're talking to.
+</I>
+Ok, I just read (and translated) the announcement in the Mageia blog.
+This was easily identifiable as a short matter-of-fact information to
+the community of testers (including all interested parties) that the
+beta version is available for testing. Included the necessary
+informations which I listed in one of my previous mails:
+
+ - who releases what
+ - new versions of main packages and main changes
+ - request for feedback (where and how)
+ - information about download.
+
+Of course this is not an announcement you would send to any external
+news site or magazine as advertisement of your distribution. It's just
+what it wants to be: &quot;Hey, we promised, we deliver. Here it is, help
+us with your feedback, have fun!&quot;
+
+Just to show you that I do see differences where they are :)
+
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+On 04/05/2011 10:55 AM, Anne nicolas wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm feeling a bit confused here.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is there actually anything wanted from the marcomm team of 1, or not?
+</I>
+Well Trish, I'm thinking that perhaps we've gotten out of the whole a
+little lethargically, waiting for other things to happen we may have
+felt was necessary.
+
+On the develpment side, it's not so unlike and automatic process where
+each member knows what needs to be done and has been doing pretty much
+the same thing in packaging and testing and other typical software
+related functions.
+
+Yet what I've seen here from our team is something amidst the bootsrap
+process of the Mageia council, and other 'departmental' aspects of
+bringing the entity to life as a product or service.
+
+As someone coming primarily from the technical side of things, I can say
+that if neccessary, we just put our heads down and plow through what
+needs to be done, in order to make the tool work.
+
+We don't have to have a name for what we're doing, or a palatable face,
+since in the purest sense, functionality and utility is truely all that
+is required.
+
+But that doesn't make for the brand, or name recognition in the public
+sector (regardless of how techie or not the audience is).
+
+It's really great that you stepped over to take the chair for the marcom
+team now that the Council is actually seated, and to be fair, a nod (as
+you suggest via the semination across the organization of marketiing
+material) is required from *somewhere* on our part - if for no other
+reason that to NOT get things wrong, like the details or the message.
+
+Until now, and the point where you offered to represent Marcom in the
+Council meetings, I think we were effectively hamstringed in our ability
+to move forward - unless it was unilaterally. Something we didn't want
+to do, and rightfully so.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If not, then is there a reason to have the team at all?
+</I>
+That depends on whether we want a message to effectively permeate the
+industry. My Guess is yes, but expect to be marginalized and discounted
+ at every turn of events.
+
+Instead of coming up with the message, in a FOSS tech driven project, as
+opposed to a corporate beaurocratic enterprise, the pace of development
+and innovation usually far exceeds the pace at which Marketing can
+envision, develop, brand, and deliver OUR contribution, so in light of a
+completely different development ethic and control structure on the tech
+side, our mission might be (instead of forming the message and brand),
+to define what the tech side has produced, and remain proactive enough
+to guess where it's all going.
+
+In the FOSS community, R&amp;D immediately precedes release. Not like
+corporate enterprise where releases can be held until the entire package
+can be released as a cohesive web.
+
+It's no one's fault, it's just a different paradigm we're going to have
+to embrace, and have our pencils and erasers handy at every turn.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My point of view for now :) :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We should prepare all process for beta2 and next releases. Time is a
+</I>&gt;<i> bit short for beta1. It took time to release isos and on my side I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> just finalizing things. What I suggest is formalize this for beta2.
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYT ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Well Anne, since you asked, and in light of what I related as my
+observations above, I would recommend that we give Patricia our full
+support going forward with our position of relevance there, and also to
+just forget about beta2 and focus on Mageia 1 RC1 or Stable - it is the
+ second week of April, and there is quite a lot still on the plate to
+deliver our complete package for Mageia 1 in June.
+
+In the meantime, Patricia will be able to engage in the process of
+enforcing a place of relevance for Marcom in the Mageia Universe :)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
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+On 04/05/2011 11:17 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm looking forward to your ideas. From my point of view there isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> that much to organize:
+</I>
+Apologies for responding here instead, but it's good to see that you
+have a more comprehensive understanding of the dynamics here, based on
+the exchange between you and Patricia in the posts that follow this one :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Announcement for forum, blog and mailing lists has/have to be
+</I>&gt;<i> written (who does this?)
+</I>
+Ennael appears to have written the one for Alpha 1. Whether or not she
+actually wrote it is beside the point.
+
+I think she's the logical spokesperson for, lack of a better term, the
+corporate face of Mageia.
+
+Now, having said that, perhaps it is time to bring up how grammatically
+atrocious the English version of that blog announcement was. It's
+obvious that even the wind of that release announcement never came
+through this committee - which is an obvious case in point.
+
+I also concur with Patricia regarding what we refer to in technical
+terms, a *Role Account*, for the dissemination of Press releases, news
+articles, etc., for places like below...
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Entries in /. and DW have to be made/sent (who does this?)
+</I>
+One thing the rest of us don't have to wait on is decide where in the
+cloud we're going to put our master spreadsheets for our media contacts.
+
+We should decide that right now - this isn't something we need other
+aspects of the project to concur on before moving on - it's internal.
+
+We can start with one of those services like SugarSync, DropBox,
+GoogleDocs, or (my personal preference) something like TigerCRM that our
+Marcom team can utilize to keep track of the myriad of press contacts
+and resources we must maintain.
+
+We have our own servers now, and I think a CRM is warranted, but
+regardless, we have an immediate need to keep our stuff in the cloud and
+share it with each other.
+
+To the list above, I would also add DZone and DistroWatch. It may sound
+a little self serving, but we should have a couple of templates to push
+product reviews to several sites too, IMO.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What else?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I'll of course be releasing my news articles heralding the release of
+Mageia 1 Stable in the usual syndicated channels I use.
+
+Oh here's another great site I use a lot, which really has strong Kung
+Fu: <A HREF="http://www.prlog.org/">http://www.prlog.org/</A>
+
+I'm happy to set up accounts in a few places like that, as well as /.,
+freshmeat, DZone, and other places, but before I can...
+
+We need our role account[s] (aka personages or various persona) to have
+email addresses too. I think three or four to start would be good.
+
+Say, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-xxx at mageia.com</A> (I could care less about the namiing
+convention used, but something relevant and mnemonic).
+
+After all, we have to verify for all the sites we register with in the
+channel, and need an email address for that via our role accounts.
+
+We've got about an hour less than we did when I made my last post to
+this list, until the release of Mageia 1 Stable, in June.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+I noticed that we have a <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">press at mageia.org.</A> Who is handling that role
+account? And our FaceBook Account?
+
+These are things we should be collecting the particulars of, and who are
+the managers of those role accounts, etc.
+
+I know Romain brought this up over two months ago, I just went over it
+in the list archives, and to my knowledge, a report containing this data
+hasn't been presented as of yet.
+
+But I'm not certain that it hasn't, just that it hasn't been presented
+on this list or our IRC chan in any of our marcom meetings.
+
+Regardless, we do need a few role accounts, and <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">username at mageia.org</A>
+would be good too for each of us to have too IMO.
+
+And we don't have a marcom group in the forums either, and this was
+discussed at length on the list here too (you'll recall the discussions
+about whether we would stick with the existing FudForum software we had
+been provided or whether we would be moving to other software at the
+mageia.org proper site ;) ). Who do we talk to to get this corrected?
+
+Anyway, whichever way we go, or don't go, I was pretty tired when I did
+the first write ups, so again, apologies for the typos :)
+
+Also, I was blowing through those last two posts so fast I think I was
+thinking SugarSync, then somehow SugarCRM got into my head when I meant
+to say VTiger CRM, rather than TigerCRM LOL!
+
+It's good stuff, I support about 30 instances of it in various
+enterprises, and can serve the entire organization or just marcom,
+whichever.
+
+I recommend the marcom team members each have a look at it here:
+<A HREF="http://www.vtiger.com/">http://www.vtiger.com/</A>
+
+Finally, I have to go back and ask again, &quot;Who is, or collectively are,
+the people responsible for posting such possibly inappropriate material
+on our facebook page like:
+<A HREF="http://www.facebook.com/Mageia#!/photo.php?fbid=1371504459899&amp;set=o.157247240967735&amp;theater">http://www.facebook.com/Mageia#!/photo.php?fbid=1371504459899&amp;set=o.157247240967735&amp;theater</A>
+???
+
+Is that the kind of message we want to put out there? That of Urinating
+in public?
+
+Yes?
+
+Yes Trish, There is a very important place for Marcom in this project,
+and that's just another example, IMNSHO, of what happens when we don't
+have a standard protocol that is filtered through this part (the marcom
+part) of the Mageia Universe.
+
+On 04/06/2011 01:13 AM, Bradley D. Thornton wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 04/05/2011 11:17 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm looking forward to your ideas. From my point of view there isn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that much to organize:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Apologies for responding here instead, but it's good to see that you
+</I>&gt;<i> have a more comprehensive understanding of the dynamics here, based on
+</I>&gt;<i> the exchange between you and Patricia in the posts that follow this one :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. Announcement for forum, blog and mailing lists has/have to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> written (who does this?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ennael appears to have written the one for Alpha 1. Whether or not she
+</I>&gt;<i> actually wrote it is beside the point.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think she's the logical spokesperson for, lack of a better term, the
+</I>&gt;<i> corporate face of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, having said that, perhaps it is time to bring up how grammatically
+</I>&gt;<i> atrocious the English version of that blog announcement was. It's
+</I>&gt;<i> obvious that even the wind of that release announcement never came
+</I>&gt;<i> through this committee - which is an obvious case in point.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I also concur with Patricia regarding what we refer to in technical
+</I>&gt;<i> terms, a *Role Account*, for the dissemination of Press releases, news
+</I>&gt;<i> articles, etc., for places like below...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3. Entries in /. and DW have to be made/sent (who does this?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One thing the rest of us don't have to wait on is decide where in the
+</I>&gt;<i> cloud we're going to put our master spreadsheets for our media contacts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We should decide that right now - this isn't something we need other
+</I>&gt;<i> aspects of the project to concur on before moving on - it's internal.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We can start with one of those services like SugarSync, DropBox,
+</I>&gt;<i> GoogleDocs, or (my personal preference) something like TigerCRM that our
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcom team can utilize to keep track of the myriad of press contacts
+</I>&gt;<i> and resources we must maintain.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have our own servers now, and I think a CRM is warranted, but
+</I>&gt;<i> regardless, we have an immediate need to keep our stuff in the cloud and
+</I>&gt;<i> share it with each other.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To the list above, I would also add DZone and DistroWatch. It may sound
+</I>&gt;<i> a little self serving, but we should have a couple of templates to push
+</I>&gt;<i> product reviews to several sites too, IMO.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What else?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll of course be releasing my news articles heralding the release of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1 Stable in the usual syndicated channels I use.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oh here's another great site I use a lot, which really has strong Kung
+</I>&gt;<i> Fu: <A HREF="http://www.prlog.org/">http://www.prlog.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm happy to set up accounts in a few places like that, as well as /.,
+</I>&gt;<i> freshmeat, DZone, and other places, but before I can...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We need our role account[s] (aka personages or various persona) to have
+</I>&gt;<i> email addresses too. I think three or four to start would be good.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Say, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-xxx at mageia.com</A> (I could care less about the namiing
+</I>&gt;<i> convention used, but something relevant and mnemonic).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After all, we have to verify for all the sites we register with in the
+</I>&gt;<i> channel, and need an email address for that via our role accounts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We've got about an hour less than we did when I made my last post to
+</I>&gt;<i> this list, until the release of Mageia 1 Stable, in June.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kindest regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>_______________________________________________
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+<PRE>2011/4/6 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
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+</I>&gt;<i> I noticed that we have a <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">press at mageia.org.</A> Who is handling that role
+</I>&gt;<i> account? And our FaceBook Account?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> These are things we should be collecting the particulars of, and who are
+</I>&gt;<i> the managers of those role accounts, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Sorry ti be that short but what about having quick irc meeting on that
+specific topic. I think it's important enough to take some time for it
+and for sure, discussion will go a bit faster :)
+
+Cheers
+
+--
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+<PRE>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:36, Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> These are things we should be collecting the particulars of, and who are
+</I>&gt;<i> the managers of those role accounts, etc.
+</I>
+Yep, but that requires a team to be setup and to show regular
+attendance and to have a clear lead - not that you aren't beginning
+now, but the marcom teams activity record is still in its infancy.
+
+So far, those aliases are managed through the board and maybe a few
+founding members.
+
+&gt;<i> Regardless, we do need a few role accounts, and <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">username at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> would be good too for each of us to have too IMO.
+</I>
+@mageia.org user aliases so far are expected for Board &amp; Council
+members and to be slowly extended to crucial roles within teams and
+hopefully to all peer contributors (and note the &quot;peer&quot; part of it).
+
+&gt;<i> And we don't have a marcom group in the forums either, and this was
+</I>&gt;<i> discussed at length on the list here too (you'll recall the discussions
+</I>&gt;<i> about whether we would stick with the existing FudForum software we had
+</I>&gt;<i> been provided or whether we would be moving to other software at the
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia.org proper site ;) ). Who do we talk to to get this corrected?
+</I>
+I'm not aware of (or don't remember about) that. If you are to use a
+Web-based forum, you would gain in using <A HREF="http://forums.mageia.org">http://forums.mageia.org</A> -
+but be aware that:
+ - you will get a higher scrutinity there - not that it's bad, but
+it's important to know;
+ - you will have to manage hiatuses between your forum and your
+mailing-list, some people not reading/using both.
+
+&gt;<i> Finally, I have to go back and ask again, &quot;Who is, or collectively are,
+</I>&gt;<i> the people responsible for posting such possibly inappropriate material
+</I>&gt;<i> on our facebook page like:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.facebook.com/Mageia#!/photo.php?fbid=1371504459899&amp;set=o.157247240967735&amp;theater">http://www.facebook.com/Mageia#!/photo.php?fbid=1371504459899&amp;set=o.157247240967735&amp;theater</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ???
+</I>
+Removed. That's more a matter of curation/moderation. The Facebook
+page is public and everyone can post to it (and that's good) but could
+be better animated, if we can focus someone more on this, yes (that
+role is in the users/forums/ml/community teams that are not really
+setup either at this time - maybe you could try to ignite that).
+
+Romain
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+I noticed that we have a <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">press at mageia.org.</A> Who is handling that role
+account? And our FaceBook Account?
+
+These are things we should be collecting the particulars of, and who are
+the managers of those role accounts, etc.
+
+I know Romain brought this up over two months ago, I just went over it
+in the list archives, and to my knowledge, a report containing this data
+hasn't been presented as of yet.
+
+But I'm not certain that it hasn't, just that it hasn't been presented
+on this list or our IRC chan in any of our marcom meetings.
+
+Regardless, we do need a few role accounts, and <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">username at mageia.org</A>
+would be good too for each of us to have too IMO.
+
+And we don't have a marcom group in the forums either, and this was
+discussed at length on the list here too (you'll recall the discussions
+about whether we would stick with the existing FudForum software we had
+been provided or whether we would be moving to other software at the
+mageia.org proper site ;) ). Who do we talk to to get this corrected?
+
+um...
+
+I'm not aware of any issues we've had with spambots on this list, but I
+would think that sending image and soundbyte attachments via this list
+would be a norm, rather than an exception.
+
+So the list is moderated, why, I couldn't guess, but that is sad.
+Especially since we haven't had any issues to date that would warrant
+that AFAIK.
+
+Well, I just reposted my last post (sans the photo of the urination act
+- - for that you can simply visit the link below to our public facebook
+page for mageia).
+
+What follows is a repost of my [moderated] post:
+
+
+
+
+Anyway, whichever way we go, or don't go, I was pretty tired when I did
+the first write ups, so again, apologies for the typos :)
+
+Also, I was blowing through those last two posts so fast I think I was
+thinking SugarSync, then somehow SugarCRM got into my head when I meant
+to say VTiger CRM, rather than TigerCRM LOL!
+
+It's good stuff, I support about 30 instances of it in various
+enterprises, and can serve the entire organization or just marcom,
+whichever.
+
+I recommend the marcom team members each have a look at it here:
+<A HREF="http://www.vtiger.com/">http://www.vtiger.com/</A>
+
+Finally, I have to go back and ask again, &quot;Who is, or collectively are,
+the people responsible for posting such possibly inappropriate material
+on our facebook page like:
+<A HREF="http://www.facebook.com/Mageia#!/photo.php?fbid=1371504459899&amp;set=o.157247240967735&amp;theater">http://www.facebook.com/Mageia#!/photo.php?fbid=1371504459899&amp;set=o.157247240967735&amp;theater</A>
+???
+
+Is that the kind of message we want to put out there? That of Urinating
+in public?
+
+Yes?
+
+Yes Trish, There is a very important place for Marcom in this project,
+and that's just another example, IMNSHO, of what happens when we don't
+have a standard protocol that is filtered through this part (the marcom
+part) of the Mageia Universe.
+
+
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+duh. the post already was passed before I resent - apologies :)
+
+On 04/06/2011 04:30 AM, Bradley D. Thornton wrote:
+&gt;<i> I noticed that we have a <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">press at mageia.org.</A> Who is handling that role
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+Yes Anne,
+
+That would be great! But I've only been able to make part of two marcom
+meetings to date, unfortunately, because of scheduling issues.
+
+For example, I'm getting ready to shut down work for the day (04:38hrs
+here in SoCal), and our meetings are usually set for around 16 or
+17:00hrs UTC which is a kind of awkward time for people in the Pacific
+region ;)
+
+I made the beginning of one meeting and came in for a few minutes in the
+middle of another, but attendance was a bit dismal.
+
+I'm in #chan right now, and I'm there most of the time. I try to be
+dilligent in that, and in promoting the pre-release of Mageia too, but
+yes, we definately need tools we don't have to move forward on several
+fronts and although on a personal level that doesn't really affect us,
+as a group it marginalizes us.
+
+On 04/06/2011 03:03 AM, Anne nicolas wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/4/6 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I noticed that we have a <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">press at mageia.org.</A> Who is handling that role
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> account? And our FaceBook Account?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> These are things we should be collecting the particulars of, and who are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the managers of those role accounts, etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry ti be that short but what about having quick irc meeting on that
+</I>&gt;<i> specific topic. I think it's important enough to take some time for it
+</I>&gt;<i> and for sure, discussion will go a bit faster :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE>Hi Bradley!
+
+Thanks for your words; it's been a big boost. I've snipped a fair
+bit, but I didn't miss a word!
+
+Unfortunately I'm only able to mark time between now and Sunday - I'm
+on my way to an exhibition for my day-job - but I'll be doing plenty
+of thinking.
+
+&gt;<i> It's really great that you stepped over to take the chair for the
+</I>&gt;<i> marcom team now that the Council is actually seated, and to be
+</I>&gt;<i> fair, a nod (as you suggest via the semination across the
+</I>&gt;<i> organization of marketiing material) is required from *somewhere*
+</I>&gt;<i> on our part - if for no other reason that to NOT get things wrong,
+</I>&gt;<i> like the details or the message.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Until now, and the point where you offered to represent Marcom in
+</I>&gt;<i> the Council meetings, I think we were effectively hamstringed in
+</I>&gt;<i> our ability to move forward - unless it was unilaterally. Something
+</I>&gt;<i> we didn't want to do, and rightfully so.
+</I>
+Yes - and that bit about not being unilateral is very, very important!
+
+&gt;<i> In the FOSS community, R&amp;D immediately precedes release. Not like
+</I>&gt;<i> corporate enterprise where releases can be held until the entire
+</I>&gt;<i> package can be released as a cohesive web.
+</I>
+In the corporate environments I've worked in for the last
+quarter-century (don't that sound grand?) it's been exactly the same
+as in a FOSS project - R&amp;D up to and past the last minute. The only
+difference here is we're trying to grow a community rather than a
+bank balance - in many ways easier (because one doesn't have to
+prevaricate, ever &lt;beam&gt;) and in many ways harder (because bringing a
+single voice out of a community of volunteers is like herding cats).
+But I think we can do it. (My day job is in adaptive tech, and I
+work globally, so I've got a fair idea.)
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; We should prepare all process for beta2 and next releases. Time
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is a bit short for beta1. It took time to release isos and on my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; side I'm just finalizing things. What I suggest is formalize this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for beta2. WDYT ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well Anne, since you asked, and in light of what I related as my
+</I>&gt;<i> observations above, I would recommend that we give Patricia our full
+</I>&gt;<i> support going forward with our position of relevance there, and
+</I>&gt;<i> also to just forget about beta2 and focus on Mageia 1 RC1 or Stable
+</I>&gt;<i> - it is the second week of April, and there is quite a lot still on
+</I>&gt;<i> the plate to deliver our complete package for Mageia 1 in June.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the meantime, Patricia will be able to engage in the process of
+</I>&gt;<i> enforcing a place of relevance for Marcom in the Mageia Universe :)
+</I>
+Agree! Thanks! and I hope you won't be too swamped with the tech stuff
+to put your voice right in there...
+
+Cheers,
+
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+&gt;<i> &gt; 1. Announcement for forum, blog and mailing lists has/have to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; written (who does this?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ennael appears to have written the one for Alpha 1. Whether or not
+</I>&gt;<i> she actually wrote it is beside the point.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think she's the logical spokesperson for, lack of a better term,
+</I>&gt;<i> the corporate face of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, having said that, perhaps it is time to bring up how
+</I>&gt;<i> grammatically atrocious the English version of that blog
+</I>&gt;<i> announcement was. It's obvious that even the wind of that release
+</I>&gt;<i> announcement never came through this committee - which is an
+</I>&gt;<i> obvious case in point.
+</I>
+Yep - and the current one's not a lot better. Lots of opportunities
+are also being missed to put a communication-type wrapper around it
+that speaks about what kind of community we are - must be fixed for
+Final, if not for Beta2.
+
+&gt;<i> I also concur with Patricia regarding what we refer to in technical
+</I>&gt;<i> terms, a *Role Account*, for the dissemination of Press releases,
+</I>&gt;<i> news articles, etc., for places like below...
+</I>
+Role account; also advisory to the board on presenting Mageia outside
+the core community.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; 3. Entries in /. and DW have to be made/sent (who does this?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One thing the rest of us don't have to wait on is decide where in
+</I>&gt;<i> the cloud we're going to put our master spreadsheets for our media
+</I>&gt;<i> contacts.
+</I>
+Can we have some server space and a CRM, and who do we ask for that?
+What I'd like to be able to tell new marcom people is: go to here
+&lt;link&gt;, use your Mageia ID to log in, have at it.
+
+I'd also like something like the Wiki we used with Graham to work out
+the Vision and so on - that was very good for teamwork, even with us
+being in different timezones. Any ideas? Then we can sandbox our
+writings for people to look at and comment on (on the list maybe?) so
+we can refine it.
+
+&gt;<i> We've got about an hour less than we did when I made my last post to
+</I>&gt;<i> this list, until the release of Mageia 1 Stable, in June.
+</I>
+Even less now!
+
+If we could get the CRM and sandbox/marcomm wiki area set up by the
+start of next week, we can get cracking.
+
+And: who's team leader for Artwork? I know Alex is doing a lot of the
+creative stuff, but we should feed stuff through the team leader -
+requests for artwork to go with writings, collaborate on
+posters/banners/whatever...
+
+Cheers!
+
+
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+<PRE>2011/4/6 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Comments inline:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 1. Announcement for forum, blog and mailing lists has/have to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; written (who does this?)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ennael appears to have written the one for Alpha 1. Whether or not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> she actually wrote it is beside the point.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think she's the logical spokesperson for, lack of a better term,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the corporate face of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now, having said that, perhaps it is time to bring up how
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> grammatically atrocious the English version of that blog
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> announcement was. It's obvious that even the wind of that release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> announcement never came through this committee - which is an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> obvious case in point.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep - and the current one's not a lot better. Lots of opportunities
+</I>&gt;<i> are also being missed to put a communication-type wrapper around it
+</I>&gt;<i> that speaks about what kind of community we are &#160;- must be fixed for
+</I>&gt;<i> Final, if not for Beta2.
+</I>
+As I already wrote in this thread:
+The current announcement is a simple information to the community of
+testers and all interested people that Beta1 is out, what is new,
+where to get it and what to test. No more and no less. As that it is
+quite alright.
+It is not meant as a full size descriptive and inviting announcement
+from Mageia to the world, where we would certainly wrap up the sheer
+information inside an inviting and more comprehensive text.
+
+&gt;<i> Role account; also advisory to the board on presenting Mageia outside
+</I>&gt;<i> the core community.
+</I>
+That would be nice and important whenever the time allows to ask for
+this advice, i.e. in situations where announcements and other docs are
+planned some time before they are needed.
+
+&gt;<i> Can we have some server space and a CRM, and who do we ask for that?
+</I>&gt;<i> What I'd like to be able to tell new marcom people is: go to here
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;link&gt;, use your Mageia ID to log in, have at it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd also like something like the Wiki we used with Graham to work out
+</I>&gt;<i> the Vision and so on - that was very good for teamwork, even with us
+</I>&gt;<i> being in different timezones. Any ideas? Then we can sandbox our
+</I>&gt;<i> writings for people to look at and comment on (on the list maybe?) so
+</I>&gt;<i> we can refine it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We've got about an hour less than we did when I made my last post to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this list, until the release of Mageia 1 Stable, in June.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Even less now!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we could get the CRM and sandbox/marcomm wiki area set up by the
+</I>&gt;<i> start of next week, we can get cracking.
+</I>
+You can have all the space you need in the existing wiki right now.
+Just log in and create it.
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+On 04/06/2011 03:12 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:36, Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> These are things we should be collecting the particulars of, and who are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the managers of those role accounts, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep, but that requires a team to be setup and to show regular
+</I>&gt;<i> attendance and to have a clear lead - not that you aren't beginning
+</I>&gt;<i> now, but the marcom teams activity record is still in its infancy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So far, those aliases are managed through the board and maybe a few
+</I>&gt;<i> founding members.
+</I>
+Well I don't know what Trish's schedule is like, but I idle in #chan
+most of the time, maintain archives of it, and can respond quite
+regularly to any /query's or /msg's sent to me ther (tallship).
+
+I believe that we can whip out a convention for the creation of the
+email aliases to delegate to the council since they've seemingly taken
+over the sysadmin team's job too, and we'll see if they actually act on
+it, or pass it by like the forum/email list integration listed below as
+a priority a few months ago.
+
+We need a bit of reciprocity here. We can't be waiting on the horse for
+the cart and be expected to deliver the grain before the horse arrives
+to pull us along.
+
+There's a lot of infrastructure we requested and decided upon having
+here, and yet await.
+
+If the council would rather do everything themselves instead, then more
+power to them.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regardless, we do need a few role accounts...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And we don't have a marcom group in the forums either, and this was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> discussed at length on the list here too (you'll recall the discussions
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> about whether we would stick with the existing FudForum software we had
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> been provided or whether we would be moving to other software at the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia.org proper site ;) ). Who do we talk to to get this corrected?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not aware of (or don't remember about) that. If you are to use a
+</I>&gt;<i> Web-based forum, you would gain in using <A HREF="http://forums.mageia.org">http://forums.mageia.org</A> -
+</I>&gt;<i> but be aware that:
+</I>&gt;<i> - you will get a higher scrutinity there - not that it's bad, but
+</I>&gt;<i> it's important to know;
+</I>&gt;<i> - you will have to manage hiatuses between your forum and your
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing-list, some people not reading/using both.
+</I>
+Yes that was discussed at length, Wolfgang brought up the significance
+of syncing the forums and the email lists so that two disparate groups
+didn't begin to emerge independant of each other due to the lack of
+preference for one medium over the other.
+
+A simple technical detail that I'm wholly in favor of, although I myself
+prefer to use email lists themselves :)
+
+And forums archive better for search indexing.
+
+That discussion is archived (Don't tell me if we don't archive this
+Mailman list - that would be very bad and I would rather not know if
+that were the case) on this list - the particular discussion being
+spawned on 24 January 2011.
+
+We've waited for about six months now as a team, and suddenly the
+'council' is arbitrarily creating lists and contact points without input
+or direction, or researching what has already been prepared and waiting
+on their actual formation?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Finally, I have to go back and ask again, &quot;Who is, or collectively are,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the people responsible for posting such possibly inappropriate material
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on our facebook page like:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.facebook.com/Mageia#!/photo.php?fbid=1371504459899&amp;set=o.157247240967735&amp;theater">http://www.facebook.com/Mageia#!/photo.php?fbid=1371504459899&amp;set=o.157247240967735&amp;theater</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ???
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Removed. That's more a matter of curation/moderation. The Facebook
+</I>&gt;<i> page is public and everyone can post to it (and that's good) but could
+</I>&gt;<i> be better animated, if we can focus someone more on this, yes (that
+</I>&gt;<i> role is in the users/forums/ml/community teams that are not really
+</I>&gt;<i> setup either at this time - maybe you could try to ignite that).
+</I>
+hm... :)
+
+I did run over and throw a few posts out just to help in filling the
+forums with some kruft and content so it can get going. I noticed
+several others trying to do the same thing too :)
+
+Eventually, we won't have to work so hard at that, and the business of
+helping people with technical support issues will replace the
+artificially prompted posts in the very beginning ;)
+
+But as of now, I'm pretty much kaput. I wanted to spend some time
+staying in synch with the discussion list here, and yes, I'm a little
+frustrated that many of the things that appeared to be resolved on the
+list here were seemingly disregarded when it came time to implement, and
+simply arbitrarily taken on as a task by the 'council' and some
+'founders' w/o input, approval, or direction from this team.
+
+It seems a bit ironic that we had to wait for those things to happen
+(the seating of the council) and then all of the things we had in place
+(throughout the archives of this list) haven't been attended to by those
+we waited to create a position for, so it could be done by them.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
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+On 04/06/2011 05:00 AM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Bradley!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for your words; it's been a big boost. I've snipped a fair
+</I>&gt;<i> bit, but I didn't miss a word!
+</I>
+arggh! I'll proof read for errors next time :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunately I'm only able to mark time between now and Sunday - I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> on my way to an exhibition for my day-job - but I'll be doing plenty
+</I>&gt;<i> of thinking.
+</I>
+Okay it sounds like you're in the states. I'll shoot you my cell number
+under cover of private email (anyone on the team just ask and it's yours
+too), and maybe we can find fifteen minutes or so over the phone and
+then report our work back here to the team?
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+On 04/06/2011 05:25 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/4/6 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Comments inline:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. Announcement for forum, blog and mailing lists has/have to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> written (who does this?)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ennael appears to have written the one for Alpha 1. Whether or not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> she actually wrote it is beside the point.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think she's the logical spokesperson for, lack of a better term,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the corporate face of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now, having said that, perhaps it is time to bring up how
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> grammatically atrocious the English version of that blog
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> announcement was. It's obvious that even the wind of that release
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> announcement never came through this committee - which is an
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> obvious case in point.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yep - and the current one's not a lot better. Lots of opportunities
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> are also being missed to put a communication-type wrapper around it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that speaks about what kind of community we are - must be fixed for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Final, if not for Beta2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As I already wrote in this thread:
+</I>&gt;<i> The current announcement is a simple information to the community of
+</I>&gt;<i> testers and all interested people that Beta1 is out,
+</I>
+The 'current announcement' was a public announcement - As Patricia
+pointed out, it wasn't much better than the first announcement. As I
+pointed out it not even the odor of a draft of this announcement made it
+here to this list.
+
+Finally, it was arbitrarily published, is a hackjob write up, and should
+have come through here.
+
+It doesn't matter who the authors &quot;Think&quot; it is intended for - it is
+public, and a reflection of the marcom group - even though we were
+blindsighted by it.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Role account; also advisory to the board on presenting Mageia outside
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the core community.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would be nice and important whenever the time allows to ask for
+</I>&gt;<i> this advice, i.e. in situations where announcements and other docs are
+</I>&gt;<i> planned some time before they are needed.
+</I>
+
+I think we've waited six months long enough Wolfgang. I do not concur
+with your thoughts regarding situations that take longer than six months.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can we have some server space and a CRM, and who do we ask for that?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What I'd like to be able to tell new marcom people is: go to here
+</I>
+&gt;<i> You can have all the space you need in the existing wiki right now.
+</I>&gt;<i> Just log in and create it.
+</I>
+Why yes we can have the server space and a CRM :) Not only that, but
+until such time as whomever it is that we keep asking about that
+apparently doesn't exist gets around to it and finally does this for us,
+I'll create a hosted account for the marcom and other teams since we
+can't get a straight answer otherwise. The wiki is [still] temporary I
+believe, has uses, but not acceptable for what we've already discussed for.
+
+Hopefully, someone will get a clue.
+
+&quot;Who do we ask for????&quot; - &quot;Oh just do this instead&quot;. No! That is
+cojmpletely unacceptable! If we can't have the answers to the questions,
+If the resources we, as a team decided upon, aren't being delivered now
+that all of the pieces we've been waiting on have been put in place to
+do so, then we just need to not bother asking anymore.
+
+I haven't worked on this project for months and months and waited for
+the bootstrapping process to be completed, just so this team can be
+obviated or marginalized by whimsical and arbitrary decision making
+contrary to how this organization is established.
+
+NO. We'll just do it ourselves and when this invisible and anonymous
+person who has the power to set up the tools we've asked for actually
+does it, then they can also take a dump of the database we've built and
+we can have it hosted at megeia.org when it is mature enough an
+infrastructure to host such things.
+
+&quot;USE THE WIKI&quot; Was NOT not appreciated, nor was it an acceptable answer!
+
+
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+Bradley D. Thornton
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+<PRE>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 14:09, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Yep - and the current one's not a lot better. Lots of opportunities
+</I>&gt;<i> are also being missed to put a communication-type wrapper around it
+</I>&gt;<i> that speaks about what kind of community we are &#160;- must be fixed for
+</I>&gt;<i> Final, if not for Beta2.
+</I>
+Yes. But that requires a bit of balance too. Yes, we're still used to
+do everything in a hurry and
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> I also concur with Patricia regarding what we refer to in technical
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> terms, a *Role Account*, for the dissemination of Press releases,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> news articles, etc., for places like below...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Role account; also advisory to the board on presenting Mageia outside
+</I>&gt;<i> the core community.
+</I>
+You can do it within the Council too.
+
+&gt;<i> Can we have some server space and a CRM, and who do we ask for that?
+</I>&gt;<i> What I'd like to be able to tell new marcom people is: go to here
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;link&gt;, use your Mageia ID to log in, have at it.
+</I>
+Ask sysadmin team but make sure to have your requirements ready first.
+Or ask the web team to act as a bridge here, still with your specs.
+Note that it does not mean that it will get done asap either - it
+depends if we have someone ready for the job.
+
+&gt;<i> I'd also like something like the Wiki we used with Graham to work out
+</I>&gt;<i> the Vision and so on - that was very good for teamwork, even with us
+</I>&gt;<i> being in different timezones. Any ideas? Then we can sandbox our
+</I>&gt;<i> writings for people to look at and comment on (on the list maybe?) so
+</I>&gt;<i> we can refine it.
+</I>
+You can do that already on <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/">http://mageia.org/wiki/</A> .
+
+&gt;<i> And: who's team leader for Artwork? I know Alex is doing a lot of the
+</I>&gt;<i> creative stuff, but we should feed stuff through the team leader -
+</I>&gt;<i> requests for artwork to go with writings, collaborate on
+</I>&gt;<i> posters/banners/whatever...
+</I>
+So far I'm the coordinator/lead for artwork, waiting for someone to
+raise her hand in the team (and for the team to grow a bit more as
+well).
+
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+<PRE>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 14:26, Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I believe that we can whip out a convention for the creation of the
+</I>&gt;<i> email aliases to delegate to the council since they've seemingly taken
+</I>&gt;<i> over the sysadmin team's job too
+</I>
+That's a joke. Just ask sysadmin about that. :-D
+
+&gt;<i> and we'll see if they actually act on it, or pass it by like the forum/email
+</I>&gt;<i> list integration listed below as a priority a few months ago.
+</I>
+Nonsense. This has never been said as a priority (or find me a quote
+about that) but as a &quot;nice-to-have, provided someone stands up to
+properly integrate this in our setup&quot;. It did not happen.
+
+&gt;<i> We need a bit of reciprocity here. We can't be waiting on the horse for
+</I>&gt;<i> the cart and be expected to deliver the grain before the horse arrives
+</I>&gt;<i> to pull us along.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's a lot of infrastructure we requested and decided upon having
+</I>&gt;<i> here, and yet await.
+</I>
+References?
+
+&gt;<i> Yes that was discussed at length, Wolfgang brought up the significance
+</I>&gt;<i> of syncing the forums and the email lists so that two disparate groups
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't begin to emerge independant of each other due to the lack of
+</I>&gt;<i> preference for one medium over the other.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A simple technical detail that I'm wholly in favor of, although I myself
+</I>&gt;<i> prefer to use email lists themselves :)
+</I>
+There has never been a designed plan to actually make such a sync
+between the official forums and the mailing-lists. The ml/forum bridge
+has been provided by a third party advocating for it (good) but that
+has not answered on details for joining the sysadmin team to help
+spec'ing and setting this up for good.
+
+So better leave this aside as long as no one takes this tasks.
+
+&gt;<i> That discussion is archived (Don't tell me if we don't archive this
+</I>&gt;<i> Mailman list - that would be very bad and I would rather not know if
+</I>&gt;<i> that were the case) on this list - the particular discussion being
+</I>&gt;<i> spawned on 24 January 2011.
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/mailman/">http://mageia.org/mailman/</A> - help yourself.
+
+&gt;<i> We've waited for about six months now as a team, and suddenly the
+</I>&gt;<i> 'council' is arbitrarily creating lists and contact points without input
+</I>&gt;<i> or direction, or researching what has already been prepared and waiting
+</I>&gt;<i> on their actual formation?
+</I>
+You must be kidding. There has been a regular, permanent marcomm' team
+in the past six months with regular meetings and actions?
+
+I am not saying that there was not one. Patricia, you, a few others
+were here from time to time. But in no way as much active as a few
+other teams in the project (web, artwork or even more, packagers,
+translators, sysadmins to name a few).
+
+I am not blaming anyone/anything here. But pretending that the marcom
+team has been waiting the past six months is pure nonsense when most
+that was expected from the team was setting up and organizing, and
+opening wide ears and eyes to all the people and activity within the
+project to start to bring how it can help and improve things.
+
+&gt;<i> I did run over and throw a few posts out just to help in filling the
+</I>&gt;<i> forums with some kruft and content so it can get going.
+</I>
+Just. Don't. Do. That.
+
+Better have a slowly taking forum with good content than cruft. Really.
+
+&gt;<i> frustrated that many of the things that appeared to be resolved on the
+</I>&gt;<i> list here were seemingly disregarded when it came time to implement, and
+</I>&gt;<i> simply arbitrarily taken on as a task by the 'council' and some
+</I>&gt;<i> 'founders' &#160;w/o input, approval, or direction from this team.
+</I>
+Wait. You seem to misunderstand how things are done so far and how we
+can improve them.
+
+That was not &quot;arbitrarily&quot; taken by the council/board, that was done
+as we used to do so far, without having a communication team/process
+in place; that is, with some hurry and difficulty to spread the useful
+info here and there before the release: that always happen like that,
+take that for _granted_; the only thing we can do is: improve.
+
+The goal of each team is _not_ to have a veto on how things go here
+and there. A potential veto could come from the Council, or the Board.
+Not much more. Of course, in the long term, we'd like to have the
+communication team take the hand for
+copywriting/proofreading/counselling and providing direction elements
+- but for that, a clear and working timeplan has to be set and
+followed by coordinated team members, and these have to be available
+when required, especially at release time.
+
+Someone is not available? So, unfortunately, she would have a hard
+time complaining because things did not go how she expected/planned
+them to. I know this can sound like nonsense if one comes from a
+corporate environment - but it's not the same environment here - no
+one is paid/ordered to contribute.
+
+As ennael pointed out, the team better focus on how to build tools and
+processes within the project, especially the release/communication
+plan for finale, and advocate for it in the Council and through the
+project (and &quot;advocating&quot; doesn't mean &quot;forcing/patronizing&quot;) and help
+everyone prepare to put this in motion.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i> &quot;USE THE WIKI&quot; Was NOT not appreciated, nor was it an acceptable
+</I>&gt;<i> answer!
+</I>
+What he said (but softer). (He's been up all night: cut him some
+slack.)
+
+We actually need to put in place right now those things that will be
+permanent:
+
+- a wiki/sandbox area for marcomm writings, including
+everything that is an official Mageia communication to the world
+- a CRM setup to
+ - collect and collate all marketing/comms contacts
+ - track all the contacts made, info sent out, press releases
+ issued...
+
+Now - do we go to Sysadmin for this? Who can we ask for assistance
+with design? Who can we ask for assistance with tweaking if it isn't
+quite right first up?
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+wo apr 6 15:32:01 CEST 2011
+GNU/Linux 1997-2010 #283226 counter.li.org
+andromeda up 2 hour(s), 5 min.
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+<PRE>2011/4/6 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 8-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;USE THE WIKI&quot; Was NOT not appreciated, nor was it an acceptable
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> answer!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What he said (but softer). (He's been up all night: cut him some
+</I>&gt;<i> slack.)
+</I>
+Yeah, I was up all night then slept a bit, now I'm soft enough :)
+
+&gt;<i> We actually need to put in place right now those things that will be
+</I>&gt;<i> permanent:
+</I>
+Yes, as some other teams have done already.
+
+&gt;<i> - a wiki/sandbox area for marcomm writings, including
+</I>&gt;<i> everything that is an official Mageia communication to the world
+</I>
+There my answer was: the existing wiki. It is temporarily but it has
+been said over and over again that the contents will be transferred
+when the final wiki is ready. I do not understand what is so
+unacceptable here.
+
+&gt;<i> - a CRM setup to
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;- collect and collate all marketing/comms contacts
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;- track all the contacts made, info sent out, press releases
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;issued...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now - do we go to Sysadmin for this? Who can we ask for assistance
+</I>&gt;<i> with design? Who can we ask for assistance with tweaking if it isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> quite right first up?
+</I>
+As Romain already explained and has been done by everybody else in
+need of something: ask the sysadmin team. They are in charge for this,
+they can (and they did) evaluate, discuss and implement what the teams
+need (example: transifex for the translators).
+
+--
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+<PRE>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 15:34, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 8-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;USE THE WIKI&quot; Was NOT not appreciated, nor was it an acceptable
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> answer!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What he said (but softer). (He's been up all night: cut him some
+</I>&gt;<i> slack.)
+</I>
+Well, frankly, I'm concerned. :-/ Really.
+
+Marcomm team is no different from other teams - so no need to say
+&quot;it's unacceptable&quot;. Try harder understanding how to help to make what
+you want possible.
+
+&gt;<i> We actually need to put in place right now those things that will be
+</I>&gt;<i> permanent:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - a wiki/sandbox area for marcomm writings, including
+</I>&gt;<i> everything that is an official Mageia communication to the world
+</I>
+How doesn't <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/">http://mageia.org/wiki/</A> qualify for that?
+
+&gt;<i> - a CRM setup to
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;- collect and collate all marketing/comms contacts
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;- track all the contacts made, info sent out, press releases
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;issued...
+</I>
+Questions:
+ * What, in a community project environment, is confidential in all
+this? (better have the most open and only some bits closed).
+ * And if there are confidential parts, who gets access to it?
+ * Do you know of a tool that just works for you? (be it google docs-like)
+
+&gt;<i> Now - do we go to Sysadmin for this?
+</I>
+Yes. But they will ask at least the same as above.
+
+&gt;<i> Who can we ask for assistance with design?
+</I>
+Graphic design? or software specs?
+
+&gt;<i> Who can we ask for assistance with tweaking if it isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> quite right first up?
+</I>
+Someone in webteam (or crosspost to -discuss to if someone can take the hand).
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>On Wed, 06 Apr 2011, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> 8-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;USE THE WIKI&quot; Was NOT not appreciated, nor was it an acceptable
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; answer!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What he said (but softer). (He's been up all night: cut him some
+</I>&gt;<i> slack.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We actually need to put in place right now those things that will be
+</I>&gt;<i> permanent:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - a wiki/sandbox area for marcomm writings, including
+</I>&gt;<i> everything that is an official Mageia communication to the world
+</I>&gt;<i> - a CRM setup to
+</I>&gt;<i> - collect and collate all marketing/comms contacts
+</I>&gt;<i> - track all the contacts made, info sent out, press releases
+</I>&gt;<i> issued...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now - do we go to Sysadmin for this? Who can we ask for assistance
+</I>&gt;<i> with design? Who can we ask for assistance with tweaking if it isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> quite right first up?
+</I>
+For this, you can send an email on sysadmin mailing list with details
+about what is needed, suggestions about tools that can be installed,
+then we discuss how we can do it.
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 14:26, Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and we'll see if they actually act on it, or pass it by like the forum/email
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> list integration listed below as a priority a few months ago.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nonsense. This has never been said as a priority (or find me a quote
+</I>&gt;<i> about that) but as a &quot;nice-to-have, provided someone stands up to
+</I>&gt;<i> properly integrate this in our setup&quot;. It did not happen.
+</I>
+As Bradley mentioned my name:
+I mentioned the gateway (set up by tux99 on an external server) as a
+good thing, gave the reasons. But I did not advocate it as a priority,
+just as a &quot;nice to have&quot;.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> I did run over and throw a few posts out just to help in filling the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> forums with some kruft and content so it can get going.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just. Don't. Do. That.
+</I>&gt;<i> Better have a slowly taking forum with good content than cruft. Really.
+</I>
+Yes. Filling jut for quantity has never been a good idea, not even in
+a stuffed turkey.
+
+In general:
+My perception of &quot;how things have been done&quot; is quite different from
+what Bradley writes. Everything has been discussed, decided, in
+public. If something was left out in the rain after discussion, the
+related people brought it back to attention of the
+board/council/sy&lt;sadmin/what-ever. There were too few people working
+on too many tasks - it's obvious that they must be reminded if things
+slip from their radar.
+
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+I'm conflating here - sort of answering everyone at once.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - a wiki/sandbox area for marcomm writings, including
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; everything that is an official Mageia communication to the world
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There my answer was: the existing wiki. It is temporarily but it has
+</I>&gt;<i> been said over and over again that the contents will be transferred
+</I>&gt;<i> when the final wiki is ready. I do not understand what is so
+</I>&gt;<i> unacceptable here.
+</I>
+For sandboxing, maybe the wiki is okay; let us think on and discuss
+what exactly we need. If we can do it there, we'll set it up start of
+next week.
+
+I take it anyone with a login can set up new pages on the wiki okay -
+I haven't tried.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - a CRM setup to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;- collect and collate all marketing/comms contacts
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;- track all the contacts made, info sent out, press
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; releases issued...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Now - do we go to Sysadmin for this? Who can we ask for assistance
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with design? Who can we ask for assistance with tweaking if it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; isn't quite right first up?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As Romain already explained and has been done by everybody else in
+</I>&gt;<i> need of something: ask the sysadmin team. They are in charge for
+</I>&gt;<i> this, they can (and they did) evaluate, discuss and implement what
+</I>&gt;<i> the teams need (example: transifex for the translators).
+</I>
+Okay; this sounds good.
+
+The things we need for marcomm are maybe a little different than for
+packagers/makers/translators; I dunno what they need. So long as
+Sysadmin can help us out with specs, it'll work.
+
+Onward and upward!
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+wo apr 6 15:56:33 CEST 2011
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+Let's try to move on from this...
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; We've waited for about six months now as a team, and suddenly the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 'council' is arbitrarily creating lists and contact points
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; without input or direction, or researching what has already been
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; prepared and waiting on their actual formation?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You must be kidding. There has been a regular, permanent marcomm'
+</I>&gt;<i> team in the past six months with regular meetings and actions?
+</I>
+Several of people who were energetically and joyfully working like
+crazy in Yorick's team have been around, I think (see their names on
+irc...) - just not sticking their heads up, because all the
+understanding seemed to be flowing in one direction. Some of the
+people who were writing and contributing lots have moved over to
+other teams - I was tempted to do that too.
+
+I guess what we can do now is show and tell, so all the community
+sees what marcomm is about - and we'll be looking for lots of board
+and council support to do just that.
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+wo apr 6 16:01:20 CEST 2011
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+<PRE>2011/4/6 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess what we can do now is show and tell, so all the community
+</I>&gt;<i> sees what marcomm is about - and we'll be looking for lots of board
+</I>&gt;<i> and council support to do just that.
+</I>
+You are the council, same as Romain and I and all other members. When
+you / your team need something, write it in the mailing list, put it
+on the agenda of the next meeting, or raise your voice in the meeting
+under topic &quot;Others&quot;. And keep bringing it up when it seems to be
+&quot;forgotten&quot;.
+
+I think the fundamental difference between marketing in a business
+environment and a community project is not so much the goals to
+achieve but the way of working. Here almost everything depends on your
+own initiative because nobody can order you to do something. If you
+want something you have to ask until you get it (or it is rejected
+because of valid reasons).
+
+--
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+
+Greetz,
+
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+
+Zwik
+2011/4/5 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing-request at mageia.org</A>&gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> Today's Topics:
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+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Re: Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release (Wolfgang Bornath)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:11:31 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> From: Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: Mageia marketing team discussion list
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">BANLkTikpqmGfyCzQDdE66dFsDpw3KUruBw at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Comments inside:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks Wobo... now, you got any way of magicking up some more people
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to do it? 8-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To do what?
+</I>&gt;<i> Translators and local spreaders are the same and they are ready to go.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How can I help with translating the Mageia stuff into dutch.
+</I>
+Pls contact remmy, the coordinator of the dutch team (see
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=translators#dutch">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=translators#dutch</A> ).
+He will give you a first overview.
+
+Thx for your interest,
+
+--
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+just notifying that Anne is going to push an announce for the test
+days on the blog after a first proofread (copy below).
+
+I suggest we create a blog account to Patricia so she can get a first
+eye there and see how we can improve on the copy/publishing process in
+the coming weeks up to the finale release - Patricia, could you mail
+me what email address you would prefer for this account?
+
+&quot;Mageia 1 beta 1 is just out and it's now time for tests. Let's
+improve quality of our favorite distro!
+
+2 test days are organized on 11th and 12th of April, focused on beta 1
+ISOs and following targets:
+
+ - list of included softwares in ISOs and repositories: file a bug if
+you see one missing and explain why we should add it;
+ - upgrade from Mandriva Linux 2010.1 and 2010.2: our target is to
+have easy upgrade for final release. Tests are really important.
+Please have a look on the upgrade test page;
+ - hardware detection: test your hardware configuration and report any
+bugs on it;
+ - installation process: use beta 1 ISOs to test Mageia installer
+following test process;
+ - asian locales and localisation in general.
+
+You will find all needed help on various Mageia media:
+ * development mailing-list;
+ * IRC: #mageia-dev on Freenode server;
+ * Mageia forums.&quot;
+
+
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>2011/4/7 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> just notifying that Anne is going to push an announce for the test
+</I>&gt;<i> days on the blog after a first proofread (copy below).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suggest we create a blog account to Patricia so she can get a first
+</I>&gt;<i> eye there and see how we can improve on the copy/publishing process in
+</I>&gt;<i> the coming weeks up to the finale release - Patricia, could you mail
+</I>&gt;<i> me what email address you would prefer for this account?
+</I>
+I'd prefer the whole proofread&amp;improvement done before a blog text is
+published because the minute after publishing there may already be
+people copying it to their localised pages.
+
+--
+wobo
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+&gt;<i> I'd prefer the whole proofread&amp;improvement done before a blog text is
+</I>&gt;<i> published because the minute after publishing there may already be
+</I>&gt;<i> people copying it to their localised pages.
+</I>
+That's why I attached the copy here - in case we can't corrections
+here before from our other proofreaders - and to somehow start a bit
+of a review here.
+
+But nonetheless, the post must go live today, middle of afternoon preferably.
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:00, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd prefer the whole proofread&amp;improvement done before a blog text is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> published because the minute after publishing there may already be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people copying it to their localised pages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's why I attached the copy here - in case we can't corrections
+</I>&gt;<i> here before from our other proofreaders - and to somehow start a bit
+</I>&gt;<i> of a review here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But nonetheless, the post must go live today, middle of afternoon preferably.
+</I>
+Yes.
+
+I read the announcement and (put aside a few possible language
+mistakes) I found one main point:
+
+While IRC is ok for this, we should decide either ML or forum for
+these occasions. It does not help if the same &quot;bug&quot; is discussed in
+both platforms by different people. I know that we may get more people
+to test and report when using both platforms but it may result in
+doublettes. Even in three different discussions when somebody does not
+use forum nor ML but goes straight to Bugzilla.
+
+OTOH, if the &quot;Helpers&quot; for test day will be present in all platforms,
+then this issue is not there.
+
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+&gt;<i> While IRC is ok for this, we should decide either ML or forum for
+</I>&gt;<i> these occasions. It does not help if the same &quot;bug&quot; is discussed in
+</I>&gt;<i> both platforms by different people. I know that we may get more people
+</I>&gt;<i> to test and report when using both platforms but it may result in
+</I>&gt;<i> doublettes. Even in three different discussions when somebody does not
+</I>&gt;<i> use forum nor ML but goes straight to Bugzilla.
+</I>
+Well, I think we prefer to take the risk to have duplicates reported
+than none at all. There are people averse to either forums,
+mailing-lists or Bugzilla (and even more to each!) - and there will be
+some to make the bridge. :-)
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:15, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> While IRC is ok for this, we should decide either ML or forum for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> these occasions. It does not help if the same &quot;bug&quot; is discussed in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> both platforms by different people. I know that we may get more people
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to test and report when using both platforms but it may result in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> doublettes. Even in three different discussions when somebody does not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> use forum nor ML but goes straight to Bugzilla.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, I think we prefer to take the risk to have duplicates reported
+</I>&gt;<i> than none at all. There are people averse to either forums,
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing-lists or Bugzilla (and even more to each!) - and there will be
+</I>&gt;<i> some to make the bridge. :-)
+</I>
+Yes, sure. Hopefully :)
+
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+<PRE> 1. test days announce on the blog (Romain d'Alverny)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:49:49 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Romain d'Alverny&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: Mageia marketing team discussion list
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: [Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID: &lt;BANLkTi=XjbG=8hn1oqmSwgqSCsHXGG3=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Pw at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2 test days are organized on 11th and 12th of April, focused on beta 1
+</I>&gt;<i> ISOs and following targets:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - list of included softwares in ISOs and repositories: file a bug if
+</I>&gt;<i> you see one missing and explain why we should add it;
+</I>&gt;<i> - upgrade from Mandriva Linux 2010.1 and 2010.2: our target is to
+</I>&gt;<i> have easy upgrade for final release. Tests are really important.
+</I>&gt;<i> Please have a look on the upgrade test page;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+I agree with the remark, that test are indeed important.
+I think it is important to let's choose, what kind of apps, software,
+packages people are like to use before
+asking them about partioning of the hard drive. To figure out what the best
+partition scheme is, is not the most easiest task.
+
+Further the functionality mass renaming should be added by the
+PCManfilemanager. The same functionality thunar in XFCE has.
+
+
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+Hi,
+
+&gt;<i> just notifying that Anne is going to push an announce for the test
+</I>&gt;<i> days on the blog after a first proofread (copy below).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suggest we create a blog account to Patricia so she can get a first
+</I>&gt;<i> eye there and see how we can improve on the copy/publishing process in
+</I>&gt;<i> the coming weeks up to the finale release - Patricia, could you mail
+</I>&gt;<i> me what email address you would prefer for this account?
+</I>
+Great. This email is fine, thanks Romain.
+
+Fast proofread (second time around, grrr hotel wifi), no
+marketing/comms slant - just idiom and usage checking:
+
+-----
+
+&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia 1 beta 1 is just out and it's now time for tests. Let's
+</I>&gt;<i> improve quality of our favorite distro!
+</I>
+Mageia 1 Beta 1 is just out, and now it&#180;s time for testing. Let&#180;s
+improve the quality of our favourite distro!
+
+&gt;<i> 2 test days are organized on 11th and 12th of April, focused on beta 1
+</I>&gt;<i> ISOs and following targets:
+</I>
+ - We&#180;ve organised 2 testing days, on April 11th and 12th. We&#180;re testing
+the Beta 1 ISOs; please focus on these areas:
+
+&gt;<i> - list of included softwares in ISOs and repositories: file a bug if
+</I>&gt;<i> you see one missing and explain why we should add it;
+</I>
+ - The list of software packages included in the ISOs and the
+repositories: please file a bug report if you notice that a package is
+missing, and include an explanation of why we should include it;
+
+&gt;<i> - upgrade from Mandriva Linux 2010.1 and 2010.2: our target is to
+</I>&gt;<i> have easy upgrade for final release. Tests are really important.
+</I>&gt;<i> Please have a look on the upgrade test page;
+</I>
+ - Upgrading from Mandriva Linux 2010.1 and 2010.2: we want to have an
+ easy upgrade from these Mandriva releases to Mageia 1 Final Release,
+ so these tests are really important. Please have a look on the
+ upgrade test page (include link here) for more information;
+
+&gt;<i> - hardware detection: test your hardware configuration and report any
+</I>&gt;<i> bugs on it;
+</I>
+ - Hardware detection: please test your hardware configuration, and
+ file a bug report for any problems you encounter;
+
+&gt;<i> - installation process: use beta 1 ISOs to test Mageia installer
+</I>&gt;<i> following test process;
+</I>
+ - The installation process: please test the Mageia installer from the
+ Beta 1 ISOs and file a bug report for any problems you encounter;
+
+&gt;<i> - asian locales and localisation in general.
+</I>
+ - Asian locales, and localisation in general: please file a bug report
+ for any problems you encounter with localisation.
+
+
+&gt;<i> You will find all needed help on various Mageia media:
+</I>&gt;<i> * development mailing-list;
+</I>&gt;<i> * IRC: #mageia-dev on Freenode server;
+</I>&gt;<i> * Mageia forums.&quot;
+</I>
+Help with testing and reporting bugs can be found here:
+
+ * The development mailing list (include link here);
+ * The #mageia-dev IRC channel on Freenode;
+ * The Mageia Forums (include link here).
+
+ -----
+
+
+Comments and suggestions welcome!
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Patricia Fraser
+On the move
+Gnu/Linux 1997-2008 #283226 counter.li.org
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:00, Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'd prefer the whole proofread&amp;improvement done before a blog text
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is published because the minute after publishing there may already
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; be people copying it to their localised pages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's why I attached the copy here - in case we can't corrections
+</I>&gt;<i> here before from our other proofreaders - and to somehow start a bit
+</I>&gt;<i> of a review here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But nonetheless, the post must go live today, middle of afternoon
+</I>&gt;<i> preferably.
+</I>
+Sorry - I sent my proof off before I saw this, but hopefully there&#180;ll
+be a bit more notice next time - even 24 hours would be good.
+
+Cheers,
+
+
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+
+&gt;<i> I agree with the remark, that test are indeed important.
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it is important to let's choose, what kind of apps, software,
+</I>&gt;<i> packages people are like to use before
+</I>&gt;<i> asking them about partioning of the hard drive. To figure out what
+</I>&gt;<i> the best partition scheme is, is not the most easiest task.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Further the functionality mass renaming should be added by the
+</I>&gt;<i> PCManfilemanager. The same functionality thunar in XFCE has.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Zwikkle
+</I>
+
+This is really not the he best place for this report - the devel list
+would be better. Nothing is going to happen as a result of
+bugreports/wish lists sent to the marketing list.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:00, Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry - I sent my proof off before I saw this, but hopefully there&#180;ll
+</I>&gt;<i> be a bit more notice next time - even 24 hours would be good.
+</I>
+I updated slightly the blog post following your corrections, but some
+proofread had been done as wll in the meantime (ahmad or colin, not
+sure).
+
+We have to lay out a retro-planning for the release of every ISO (and
+even more for finale) and other things) because, yes, unless we have
+one, we always will be tied to the very last minute and that sucks for
+coordination.
+
+Other than that, all we have is what is on the calendar and what gets
+hinted on -discuss (for instance, next week, the WebWorkersCamp where
+we have a keynote slot, and in May, LinuxTag and Solutions Linux
+events).
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 00:56, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:00, Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry - I sent my proof off before I saw this, but hopefully there&#180;ll
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be a bit more notice next time - even 24 hours would be good.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I updated slightly the blog post following your corrections, but some
+</I>&gt;<i> proofread had been done as wll in the meantime (ahmad or colin, not
+</I>&gt;<i> sure).
+</I>
+May I correct the mistake in the last sentence?
+&quot;Thanks for advance for your contributions&quot;
+
+Correct is &quot;in advance&quot;.
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> 2011/4/8 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 00:56, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:00, Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry - I sent my proof off before I saw this, but hopefully there&#180;ll
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be a bit more notice next time - even 24 hours would be good.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I updated slightly the blog post following your corrections, but some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> proofread had been done as wll in the meantime (ahmad or colin, not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sure).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> May I correct the mistake in the last sentence?
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Thanks for advance for your contributions&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Correct is &quot;in advance&quot;.
+</I>
+Done. Thanks wobo
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin, Mageia/MandrivaUser.de stand">molch.b at googlemail.com
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+I just received the hall plan for Linuxtag 2011.
+
+We are located at Hall 7.2b, Stand # 115
+(for those who know it, its the usual place we know from previous
+years, just not the first but the second exhibition hall).
+
+Our stand (for both, MU.de and Mageia) is 14m&#178;, 4.50m front, 3m deep.
+We are located at one of the main passways, between Free/NetBSD and
+the large stand of Linux New Media.
+
+I will update the wiki page about Linuxtag with a section of the floor
+plan, information about stand personnel and material which is already
+available.
+
+--
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+ <B>suikerstroop</B>
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+<PRE> 2. Re: Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13; installation of
+&gt;<i> Mageia (Patricia Fraser)
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Re: test days announce on the blog (Romain d'Alverny)
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. Re: test days announce on the blog (Wolfgang Bornath)
+</I>&gt;<i> 5. Re: test days announce on the blog (Anne nicolas)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 2
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 01:05:42 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> From: Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue
+</I>&gt;<i> 13; installation of Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">20110408010542.00003175 at unknown</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;us-ascii&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Zwikkle,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I agree with the remark, that test are indeed important.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think it is important to let's choose, what kind of apps, software,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages people are like to use before
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; asking them about partioning of the hard drive. To figure out what
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the best partition scheme is, is not the most easiest task.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Further the functionality mass renaming should be added by the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; PCManfilemanager. The same functionality thunar in XFCE has.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Zwikkle
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is really not the he best place for this report - the devel list
+</I>&gt;<i> would be better. Nothing is going to happen as a result of
+</I>&gt;<i> bugreports/wish lists sent to the marketing list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Patricia Fraser
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>How can I reach the devel list. I am not a developer. I am interested in
+good package selection. I am interested which packages will
+be selected in the standard installation. What will be the release cycle of
+Mageia. How long will the first stable release of Mageia be supported by
+updates.
+
+Further I like to know what kind of promotion material is available for the
+spread of Mageia. What kind of adds the Mageia marketing team is intended to
+place in magazines. What kind of atomosphere would Mageia like to show to
+people. Personally, I am thinking of the slogan: &quot;Get inspired at Mageian
+way.&quot; Mageia should be something to inspire individual people and
+organisations.
+
+greetz,
+
+Zwikkle
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 01:05:42 +0200
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> From: Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is really not the he best place for this report - the devel list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would be better. Nothing is going to happen as a result of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bugreports/wish lists sent to the marketing list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Patricia Fraser
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How can I reach the devel list. I am not a developer. I am interested in
+</I>&gt;<i> good package selection. I am interested which packages will
+</I>&gt;<i> be selected in the standard installation.&#160;What will be the release cycle of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia. How long will the first stable release of Mageia be supported by
+</I>&gt;<i> updates.
+</I>
+These are all different questions. There are several options for you:
+
+ - read or even subscribe to the mailing lists which are related (-dev
+in this case), you will find a link to the mailing lists on our web
+portal.
+
+ - go to the Mageia forums <A HREF="http://forums.mageia.org">http://forums.mageia.org</A> (actually your
+questions have already been asked there and answered as well)
+
+&gt;<i> Further I like to know what kind of promotion material is available for the
+</I>&gt;<i> spread of Mageia. What kind of adds the Mageia marketing team is intended to
+</I>&gt;<i> place in magazines. What kind of atomosphere would Mageia like to show to
+</I>&gt;<i> people. Personally, I am thinking of the slogan: &quot;Get inspired&#160;at Mageian
+</I>&gt;<i> way.&quot; Mageia should be something to inspire individual people and
+</I>&gt;<i> organisations.
+</I>
+This is surely something which will be discussed here and your ideas
+and suggestions are welcome.
+
+BTW: I like the proposed slogan, just correct the wording: &quot;Get
+inspired by the Mageian way&quot; :)
+
+--
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+<PRE>2011/4/8 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I will update the wiki page about Linuxtag with a section of the floor
+</I>&gt;<i> plan, information about stand personnel and material which is already
+</I>&gt;<i> available.
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:linuxtag_2011">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:linuxtag_2011</A>
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+--
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+ <B>Damien Lallement</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20PDF%20file%20needed%20for%20a%20Mageia%20kakemono&In-Reply-To=%3C4DA2B7DB.9060304%40damsweb.net%3E"
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+<PRE>Hello artwork and marketing team,
+
+For a lot of incoming events, Mageia.Org will have a kakemono to spread
+Mageia to people on events booths. For this kakemono, I need a file with
+the following requirements:
+- PDF file.
+- 80 cm x 200 cm for the visual (this size exactly!).
+- something easy to read and easy to understand to explain Mageia.Org
+and Mageia.
+- something quite generic to be easily reusable in the coming years.
+
+Please send your proposals by replying to this mail.
+Deadline for the PDF is: Monday the 18th of April.
+
+Cheers,
+--
+Damien Lallement
+aka &quot;damsweb&quot; or &quot;coincoin&quot; on IRC and twitter
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>Hi Damien,
+
+&gt;<i> For a lot of incoming events, Mageia.Org will have a kakemono to spread
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia to people on events booths. For this kakemono, I need a file with
+</I>&gt;<i> the following requirements:
+</I>&gt;<i> - PDF file.
+</I>&gt;<i> - 80 cm x 200 cm for the visual (this size exactly!).
+</I>&gt;<i> - something easy to read and easy to understand to explain Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> and Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> - something quite generic to be easily reusable in the coming years.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please send your proposals by replying to this mail.
+</I>&gt;<i> Deadline for the PDF is: Monday the 18th of April.
+</I>
+Just a question: is the hanging part of the kakemono to be an extension
+wrapped around a cross-bar, or do you want to use something like eyelets
+in the fabric - or a roll-up banner on a stand? It makes a difference to
+the overall length of the pdf, and whether you want the background colour
+to continue further.
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Patricia Fraser
+on the move
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>
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+<PRE>I designed my own alfabet. These are SVG-files. Where can I upload my files.
+Perhaps I can make them up in the right text and
+transform them into PDF.
+
+Greetz Zwikkle
+
+2011/4/11 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing-request at mageia.org</A>&gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> 1. PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono (Damien Lallement)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:12:11 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> From: Damien Lallement &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: [Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">4DA2B7DB.9060304 at damsweb.net</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello artwork and marketing team,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For a lot of incoming events, Mageia.Org will have a kakemono to spread
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia to people on events booths. For this kakemono, I need a file with
+</I>&gt;<i> the following requirements:
+</I>&gt;<i> - PDF file.
+</I>&gt;<i> - 80 cm x 200 cm for the visual (this size exactly!).
+</I>&gt;<i> - something easy to read and easy to understand to explain Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> and Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> - something quite generic to be easily reusable in the coming years.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please send your proposals by replying to this mail.
+</I>&gt;<i> Deadline for the PDF is: Monday the 18th of April.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Damien Lallement
+</I>&gt;<i> aka &quot;damsweb&quot; or &quot;coincoin&quot; on IRC and twitter
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>Hi Zwikkle,
+
+&gt;<i> I designed my own alfabet. These are SVG-files. Where can I upload
+</I>&gt;<i> my files. Perhaps I can make them up in the right text and
+</I>&gt;<i> transform them into PDF.
+</I>
+If you have artwork, you need to contact the artwork team - details
+are here:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=start#teams">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=start#teams</A>
+
+On each team page you'll find info about the mailing list, the IRC
+channel and also possibly IRC meeting times.
+
+Artwork uploads and contributions go to the artwork team.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+in the past months/weeks, a few initiatives were drafted here in Paris
+to help people working in the community to be interviewed,
+broadcasted, shown (if they want to) to promote/advocate community
+activity.
+
+So here are they, to be discussed/reworked/rejected if necessary:
+
+ * <A HREF="http://bonjourmageia.fr">http://bonjourmageia.fr</A> - goal is to show the regular activity or
+people working in the project - it's a daily gallery: one day, one
+focus on someone, something with an optional very short story and/or
+link for further info - it's almost a meme here in France, and there
+are certainly equivalents in other locales/places (see examples:
+<A HREF="http://www.bonjourlechat.fr/">http://www.bonjourlechat.fr/</A> - <A HREF="http://www.bonjourponey.fr/">http://www.bonjourponey.fr/</A> -
+<A HREF="http://www.bonjourlechien.com/">http://www.bonjourlechien.com/</A> and <A HREF="http://www.bonjourmozilla.fr/">http://www.bonjourmozilla.fr/</A> that
+is of course more suited to what we had in mind. Status: not set,
+needs daily photo updates, with at least one month planned in advance,
+regular editorial maintainance expected, needs someone and a go.
+
+ * hugs.mageia.org - goal is to promote respect, friendship and fun
+within the project - would any conversation turn not so well, this
+would be the occasional, more friendly alternative - it's next to
+absurd and sensible, that's the fun part of it - it's a very
+short/small page, publishing a _random_ &quot;free hugs&quot;-like photo of
+actual Mageia contributors - with of course the possibility to grow
+the photos set. Status: not set, production mockup ready, very low
+maintainance, just needs a go.
+
+ * people profiles - goal is to allow (not force) any user having a
+Mageia account, to have a profile page with her
+profile/activities/roles/teams/updates within the project. Status: not
+set, not thoroughly discussed, would need further development, needs a
+discussion/go first.
+
+
+Advice?
+
+Romain
+</PRE>
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+
+i'm working on a Marketing plan for Mageia in order to define a coherent growth
+of the project, both in the &quot;hard&quot; side and in the &quot;soft&quot; side of it.
+
+At this stage i need:
+
+- a report for each team
+
+* It should contain current manpower, level (and trend) of activities, current
+tasks, available infos and statistics.
+* if possibile it's better if made by the team leader (naturally he can share
+all the members toughts)
+* about &quot;sensitive data&quot;: is better to send an e-mail directely to my e-mail
+adress (this)
+
+- proposals to be added in the marketing plan
+
+They should contain ideas about:
+ * Vision (which needs mageia project should satisfy in a long-term
+horizont?)
+ * Mission (how can be satisfied these long-term needs in a mid-term
+horizont?)
+ * possible strategies (what can be done to satisfy these mid-term needs?)
+ * action plan (which aspects should be improved in a short term horizont?)
+ * threats and opportunities of the project
+
+
+Please, try to be short and precise. i'm waiting your inputs!
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
+______________________
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+<PRE>2011/4/13 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>
+Hi
+
+Thanks for your enthousiasm. But before mailing all mailing-lists on
+earth you should not forget you are working in a community project.
+You cannot decide in one way such things. Please check first with
+marketing team, they are looking for volunteers to work with but in a
+collaborative way.
+
+
+Thanks for advance
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i'm working on a Marketing plan for Mageia in order to define a coherent growth
+</I>&gt;<i> of the project, both in the &quot;hard&quot; &#160;side and in the &quot;soft&quot; side of it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At this stage i need:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - a report for each team
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * It should contain current manpower, level (and trend) of activities, current
+</I>&gt;<i> tasks, available infos and statistics.
+</I>&gt;<i> * if possibile it's better if made by the team leader (naturally he can share
+</I>&gt;<i> all the members toughts)
+</I>&gt;<i> * about &quot;sensitive data&quot;: &#160;is better to send an e-mail directely to my e-mail
+</I>&gt;<i> adress (this)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - proposals to be added in the marketing plan
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> They should contain ideas about:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;* &#160;Vision (which needs mageia project should satisfy in a long-term
+</I>&gt;<i> horizont?)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;* &#160;Mission (how can be satisfied these long-term needs in a mid-term
+</I>&gt;<i> horizont?)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;* &#160;possible strategies (what can be done to satisfy these mid-term needs?)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;* &#160;action plan (which aspects should be improved in a short term horizont?)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;* &#160;threats and opportunities of the project
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please, try to be short and precise. i'm waiting your inputs!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcello
+</I>&gt;<i> ______________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia Marketing Team - <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+--
+Anne
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+<PRE>Hi Marcello!
+
+&gt;<i> i'm working on a Marketing plan for Mageia in order to define a
+</I>&gt;<i> coherent growth of the project, both in the &quot;hard&quot; side and in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;soft&quot; side of it.
+</I>
+Great to see you back! We've missed you!
+
+I'm just about to set up an area off the team page on the temporary
+wiki, for us to sandbox stuff just like this.
+
+When we develop ideas that will be used officially by Mageia, we need
+to do three steps:
+
+- find out what's actually needed and wanted, and in what order;
+- brainstorm on the wiki and produce it (often in collaboration with
+ the artwork team;
+- put it up for comment by the council and teams (to make sure we're
+ expressing what they want expressed
+
+Then we can have a final version (which might still evolve over time).
+
+I'll post a link to this list for the sandbox in a little while; then
+we can start gathering our to-do list.
+
+Some things that jump to mind: see Romain's earlier email for
+some current stuff; we also have preparation to do for the
+announcements for Mageia 1 Final; we should also put together our
+input into the way the website will look, and what text we need to
+provide for that.
+
+These things aren't perhaps so visionary as your suggestions, but we
+do need them very soon! I hope our marketing visions can evolve from
+these, with lots of community input, as we do things in the next few
+weeks.
+
+Cheers,
+
+
+--
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+<PRE>Hi All,
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+We now have a space ready for our brainstorming and deathless prose.
+
+From the Marketing page on the wiki -
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing</A>
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+the third main item down discusses the Sandbox, and links to it. Get
+registered, and start a topic page on the Sandbox page, and let's
+hear from you!
+
+I'll update the hot topics/current work list in a moment - those are
+the things we need to get started on right away.
+
+We should probably also copy across the content from Graham's wiki -
+is someone up for that please?
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE>Hi Romain,
+
+&gt;<i> * <A HREF="http://bonjourmageia.fr">http://bonjourmageia.fr</A> - goal is to show the regular activity or
+</I>&gt;<i> people working in the project - it's a daily gallery: one day, one
+</I>&gt;<i> focus on someone, something with an optional very short story and/or
+</I>&gt;<i> link for further info - it's almost a meme here in France, and there
+</I>&gt;<i> are certainly equivalents in other locales/places (see examples:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.bonjourlechat.fr/">http://www.bonjourlechat.fr/</A> - <A HREF="http://www.bonjourponey.fr/">http://www.bonjourponey.fr/</A> -
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.bonjourlechien.com/">http://www.bonjourlechien.com/</A> and <A HREF="http://www.bonjourmozilla.fr/">http://www.bonjourmozilla.fr/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> that is of course more suited to what we had in mind. Status: not
+</I>&gt;<i> set, needs daily photo updates, with at least one month planned in
+</I>&gt;<i> advance, regular editorial maintainance expected, needs someone and
+</I>&gt;<i> a go.
+</I>
+I like this a lot. How do the contributions happen? Do we ask
+community members to write stuff up/provide photos? This team is kind
+of thin on the ground for doing something of this size, at the
+moment, but it remains a good idea all the same.
+
+&gt;<i> * hugs.mageia.org - goal is to promote respect, friendship and fun
+</I>&gt;<i> within the project - would any conversation turn not so well, this
+</I>&gt;<i> would be the occasional, more friendly alternative - it's next to
+</I>&gt;<i> absurd and sensible, that's the fun part of it - it's a very
+</I>&gt;<i> short/small page, publishing a _random_ &quot;free hugs&quot;-like photo of
+</I>&gt;<i> actual Mageia contributors - with of course the possibility to grow
+</I>&gt;<i> the photos set. Status: not set, production mockup ready, very low
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainance, just needs a go.
+</I>
+Do you have any examples of what this might look like?
+
+&gt;<i> * people profiles - goal is to allow (not force) any user having a
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia account, to have a profile page with her
+</I>&gt;<i> profile/activities/roles/teams/updates within the project. Status:
+</I>&gt;<i> not set, not thoroughly discussed, would need further development,
+</I>&gt;<i> needs a discussion/go first.
+</I>
+I like this one too - I'd especially like to see board/council people
+having profiles, but it would be great to have user profile pages,
+team members and so on.
+
+Looking forward to reading others' ideas on this.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE>Le 11/04/2011 14:32, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi Damien,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For a lot of incoming events, Mageia.Org will have a kakemono to spread
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia to people on events booths. For this kakemono, I need a file with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the following requirements:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - PDF file.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - 80 cm x 200 cm for the visual (this size exactly!).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - something easy to read and easy to understand to explain Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - something quite generic to be easily reusable in the coming years.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please send your proposals by replying to this mail.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Deadline for the PDF is: Monday the 18th of April.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a question: is the hanging part of the kakemono to be an extension
+</I>&gt;<i> wrapped around a cross-bar, or do you want to use something like eyelets
+</I>&gt;<i> in the fabric - or a roll-up banner on a stand? It makes a difference to
+</I>&gt;<i> the overall length of the pdf, and whether you want the background colour
+</I>&gt;<i> to continue further.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>
+Oops, you're right Patricia,
+
+Thank you for the question. :-)
+It's roll-up kakemono, see <A HREF="http://www.france-banderole.com/kakemonos/">http://www.france-banderole.com/kakemonos/</A>
+You can choose the type in the form to have a preview of it.
+
+If no answer before the deadline, I will just do a cover with eyelets to
+put it on a wall or on a table.
+
+Cheers,
+--
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+&gt;<i> Le 11/04/2011 14:32, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi Damien,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; For a lot of incoming events, Mageia.Org will have a kakemono to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; spread Mageia to people on events booths. For this kakemono, I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; need a file with the following requirements:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - PDF file.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - 80 cm x 200 cm for the visual (this size exactly!).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - something easy to read and easy to understand to explain
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia.Org and Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - something quite generic to be easily reusable in the coming
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; years.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Please send your proposals by replying to this mail.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Deadline for the PDF is: Monday the 18th of April.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Just a question: is the hanging part of the kakemono to be an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; extension wrapped around a cross-bar, or do you want to use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; something like eyelets in the fabric - or a roll-up banner on a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; stand? It makes a difference to the overall length of the pdf,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and whether you want the background colour to continue further.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oops, you're right Patricia,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank you for the question. :-)
+</I>&gt;<i> It's roll-up kakemono, see
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.france-banderole.com/kakemonos/">http://www.france-banderole.com/kakemonos/</A> You can choose the type
+</I>&gt;<i> in the form to have a preview of it.
+</I>
+Cool - I know about those. We can ask artwork about graphics for it,
+and do the text.
+
+&gt;<i> If no answer before the deadline, I will just do a cover with
+</I>&gt;<i> eyelets to put it on a wall or on a table.
+</I>
+No problems!
+
+Cheers,
+
+
+--
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+On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 21:56, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> * <A HREF="http://bonjourmageia.fr">http://bonjourmageia.fr</A> - goal is to show the regular activity or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people working in the project - it's a daily gallery: one day, one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> focus on someone, something with an optional very short story and/or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> link for further info - it's almost a meme here in France, and there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> are certainly equivalents in other locales/places (see examples:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.bonjourlechat.fr/">http://www.bonjourlechat.fr/</A> - <A HREF="http://www.bonjourponey.fr/">http://www.bonjourponey.fr/</A> -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.bonjourlechien.com/">http://www.bonjourlechien.com/</A> and <A HREF="http://www.bonjourmozilla.fr/">http://www.bonjourmozilla.fr/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that is of course more suited to what we had in mind. Status: not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> set, needs daily photo updates, with at least one month planned in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> advance, regular editorial maintainance expected, needs someone and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a go.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I like this a lot. How do the contributions happen?
+</I>
+Ideally, there are 1/2 persons in charge of gathering/editing stuff.
+So everything should go to these - we could automate (make a form to
+help people submit stuff) but first, having the thing rolling would
+help see the needs.
+
+&gt;<i> Do we ask community members to write stuff up/provide photos?
+</I>
+Yes. And we can plan in advance/automate the publication when we have
+enough of these*. The focus is primarily really on the picture and
+short context presentation - but we may add some more if there's more
+available (link to blog interview post, podcast, anything).
+
+* counting founders, contributors, I think we can project at least for
+80 days, provided we secure a photo for each. Counting donators or
+potential news/events, we can project much more.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> * hugs.mageia.org - goal is to promote respect, friendship and fun
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> within the project - would any conversation turn not so well, this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would be the occasional, more friendly alternative - it's next to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> absurd and sensible, that's the fun part of it - it's a very
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> short/small page, publishing a _random_ &quot;free hugs&quot;-like photo of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> actual Mageia contributors - with of course the possibility to grow
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the photos set. Status: not set, production mockup ready, very low
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maintainance, just needs a go.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you have any examples of what this might look like?
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/220925/Image%2049.png">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/220925/Image%2049.png</A>
+
+I only have a Paddington photo set for now :-p but more to come expected.
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i'm working on a Marketing plan for Mageia in order to define a coherent
+</I>growth
+&gt;<i> of the project, both in the &quot;hard&quot; side and in the &quot;soft&quot; side of it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At this stage i need:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - a report for each team
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * It should contain current manpower, level (and trend) of activities,
+</I>current
+&gt;<i> tasks, available infos and statistics.
+</I>&gt;<i> * if possibile it's better if made by the team leader (naturally he can
+</I>share
+&gt;<i> all the members toughts)
+</I>&gt;<i> * about &quot;sensitive data&quot;: is better to send an e-mail directely to my e-
+</I>mail
+&gt;<i> adress (this)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - proposals to be added in the marketing plan
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> They should contain ideas about:
+</I>&gt;<i> * Vision (which needs mageia project should satisfy in a long-term
+</I>&gt;<i> horizont?)
+</I>&gt;<i> * Mission (how can be satisfied these long-term needs in a mid-term
+</I>&gt;<i> horizont?)
+</I>&gt;<i> * possible strategies (what can be done to satisfy these mid-term needs?)
+</I>&gt;<i> * action plan (which aspects should be improved in a short term horizont?)
+</I>&gt;<i> * threats and opportunities of the project
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please, try to be short and precise. i'm waiting your inputs!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcello
+</I>&gt;<i> ______________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia Marketing Team - <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+Patricia set up in the marketing wiki page:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing</A>
+
+an appropriate space to share your ideas and proposals, partecipating in the
+mageia marketing plan is as easy as logging in in the wiki : )
+
+here is it the link:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#sandbox_for_developing_marketing_comms_ideas_texts_and_input">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#sandbox_for_developing_marketing_comms_ideas_texts_and_input</A>
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+
+I won't make the meeting by 16:00 UTC today - I won't be at a computer to
+get online until around 17:00 UTC. I'll look in on #mageia-marcom then,
+and hope to see some people there!
+
+If it's the time that's making a problem with getting together on IRC,
+speak up - it can be moved to suit us.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+
+&gt;<i> Patricia set up in the marketing wiki page:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing</A>
+</I>
+I don't think it's quite time to cross-post this - let's get some
+action going here in the marketing team to start with!
+
+Cheers,
+
+
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+ <I>Fri Apr 15 17:28:29 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi Marcello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Patricia set up in the marketing wiki page:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think it's quite time to cross-post this - let's get some
+</I>&gt;<i> action going here in the marketing team to start with!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+i've crossed-post this overall because our team has lost many contributors
+since its start, i've taken the opportunity to promote our team in order to
+have more contributors... anyway this coming week i'm available and we can put
+in the marketing plan some good stuff to deal with : )
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+ <I>Fri Apr 15 17:36:48 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi Marcello!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i'm working on a Marketing plan for Mageia in order to define a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; coherent growth of the project, both in the &quot;hard&quot; side and in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;soft&quot; side of it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Great to see you back! We've missed you!
+</I>
+thanks, you too : ) finally i'm graduated in economics, i'm really happy! : P
+
+
+&gt;<i> When we develop ideas that will be used officially by Mageia, we need
+</I>&gt;<i> to do three steps:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - find out what's actually needed and wanted, and in what order;
+</I>&gt;<i> - brainstorm on the wiki and produce it (often in collaboration with
+</I>&gt;<i> the artwork team;
+</I>&gt;<i> - put it up for comment by the council and teams (to make sure we're
+</I>&gt;<i> expressing what they want expressed
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+perfect, i think we can use this wiki page to define each point and then unify
+the various results:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan</A>
+
+&gt;<i> Then we can have a final version (which might still evolve over time).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some things that jump to mind: see Romain's earlier email for
+</I>&gt;<i> some current stuff; we also have preparation to do for the
+</I>&gt;<i> announcements for Mageia 1 Final; we should also put together our
+</I>&gt;<i> input into the way the website will look, and what text we need to
+</I>&gt;<i> provide for that.
+</I>
+i've taken all these e-mails, these days i'm busy because i'm organizing the
+party, from monday on i will read and create some contents, to discuss with
+you (maybe in the final phase we can plan also a chat meeting, even if i'm a
+little unlucky with these : )
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> These things aren't perhaps so visionary as your suggestions, but we
+</I>&gt;<i> do need them very soon! I hope our marketing visions can evolve from
+</I>&gt;<i> these, with lots of community input, as we do things in the next few
+</I>&gt;<i> weeks.
+</I>
+surely they are really important, but do not forget that a coherent marketing
+plan is really needed because any action assume a vision behind it (e.g.
+messages to be inserted in the installer: which target? which meanings we want
+to communicate?)
+
+&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>Hi Marcello,
+
+&gt;<i> i've crossed-post this overall because our team has lost many
+</I>&gt;<i> contributors since its start, i've taken the opportunity to promote
+</I>&gt;<i> our team in order to have more contributors... anyway this coming
+</I>&gt;<i> week i'm available and we can put in the marketing plan some good
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff to deal with : )
+</I>
+Brilliant. Let me know when you're available for irc chat!
+
+Cheers,
+
+
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+ <I>Sun Apr 17 12:57:54 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi Damien,
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - PDF file.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - 80 cm x 200 cm for the visual (this size exactly!).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - something easy to read and easy to understand to explain
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia.Org and Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - something quite generic to be easily reusable in the coming
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; years.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Please send your proposals by replying to this mail.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Deadline for the PDF is: Monday the 18th of April.
+</I>
+I'm getting no response from Artwork on this, so I suggest we use
+some of the background artwork from the install; see alexn83's
+photostream - <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/</A> - to get a
+look at some of the ideas.
+
+Alex, if you're reading this, can you please look at mocking
+something up fast for Damien? He needs this by tomorrow to get the
+kakemono printed in time.
+
+Generic text suggestion #1:
+
+-----
+
+Mageia. Always becoming...
+
+a vibrant, collaborative Community of Innovation
+powerful, reliable technologies by and for our greatest asset -
+ people
+a functional, appealing FOSS platform for the widest range
+ of users
+
+-----
+
+This is derived from our work to date on the Mageia vision statement
+- so any assistance we can get in refining it would be good!
+
+Anyone who has any other ideas on text for Damien's roll-up, please
+speak up NOW...
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+zo apr 17 12:41:44 CEST 2011
+GNU/Linux 1997-2010 #283226 counter.li.org
+andromeda up 3 hour(s), 18 min.
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>Event is coming nearer. I already did most of the pre-event
+organisation, including setting up a wiki page with all current
+information (including floor plan and stand layout):
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:linuxtag_2011">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:linuxtag_2011</A>
+
+Needed things:
+
+ - stickers or any other marketing material (t-shirts will be there)
+ - Mageia presentation, which will run as an eye catcher on a 26&quot; screen.
+ - anything else you can think of.
+
+About the presentation:
+ - I can do it in German but I'd prefer an initial layout which may be
+used by other languages as well.
+ - If you are planning such a thing in French for Solution Linux, pls
+share it with us.
+
+--
+wobo
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+just a quick note for information, in case it can be reused somehow.
+
+Anne, Damien, Nicolas, Arnaud and me went to WebWorkersCamp in Paris
+past Friday/Saturday, and I did a presentation about Mageia, in this
+context (BarCamp, centered around new/edgy Web technologies).
+
+Most of the audience was made of Web professionals and developers -
+that did not hear about Mageia before (but were aware of the Linux
+ecosystem in general).
+
+Briefly (because the slides were in French and did not hold all of the
+speech), that was done in three parts:
+
+ 1. what is Mageia? and what happened since past September
+ - project/distribution/association
+ - #1 goal was to give control of the project to the community/governance
+ - history of 7 past months
+ - coming months (final release, brainstorming)
+
+ 2. why should you be interest in it? (as a Web dev)
+ - focus in the project to help developers and contributors (tools,
+resources, mentoring)
+ - technology stacks available and their integration status (perl,
+ruby, python, php, others) - packaging of package managers (cpan, gem,
+rvm, npm, pear/pecl, etc).
+ - small project, lots of things to do, room to invest yourself and
+have an impact
+ - straightforward governance model
+ - friendly community, humane project
+
+ 3. (asking the audience) questions? what is missing for you in
+existing OS stacks? what could be done? (Q/A part of the speech
+actually); so questions were (from memory):
+ q. why yet another distribution? what will be success like for
+you? what difference? when?
+ =&gt; explained the first need to move the project into different
+hands/governance - and that fragmentation is not a bad thing, or
+something to fear, as long as one differentiate enough from others, to
+explore different paths - paths to actually be defined _after_ Mageia
+1, during the brainstorming session - so this answer was far from
+convincing, of course.
+
+ q. how many downloads/users have you already? and compared to Mandriva?
+ =&gt; very difficult figure to get in general; however, last
+year, MDV could count about 3M users, all versions included; for
+Mageia, we can't count users yet, our finale is not yet released - but
+we've experienced about 60k downloads for alpha2/beta1 and we expect
+to aim for 1M downloads for Mageia 1 over the year.
+
+ q. speaking of packaging package managers, what is it about actually?
+ =&gt; tricky topic to discuss like that actually - took the
+example of properly packaged (or not) typical PHP Web app (with Pear
+library dependencies) or gems packaging - mostly only explained the
+problem, depending on one's view (being a developer or being a
+packager/sysadmin) and the need to find something satisfying for
+everyone. Hinted about devops current movement, but with no practical,
+generic solution yet.
+
+That was it. Apart from my preparation and speaking-skills to improve,
+people seemed interested by the presentation (at least, those that
+gave some feedback).
+
+Here you are.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>In the continuity of the WWC speech, ennael and I think it could be
+worth it to setup a series of posts in the blog about:
+ - what developers can find in Mageia (technology stacks that suit them)
+ - what users can find in Mageia (tools that help them)
+ - what people can do with Mageia (what gets done with it in the real
+world out there)
+ - what people can do for Mageia (contributors, in what, how and where).
+
+Those both to show what is in, and get feedback about what could be in.
+
+That would be a long series and the start would be with the technology
+stacks (perl, python, ruby, php, etc.) in the form of some global
+overview and one-on-one interviews with involved packagers/developers.
+
+All in all, that would make 4 categories, and maybe need 4 distinct
+persons to manage each category. In the best case scenario, we would
+post 2 per week. In the worst, 1 every two weeks. And for that we
+could use bonjourmageia.fr as a distinct mean to lead people to the
+blog post.
+
+Advice? I can start a draft for the whole structure to announce this,
+and have a first post designed for Perl with J&#233;r&#244;me Quelin (who
+packages most, if not all of it).
+
+Romain
+</PRE>
+
+
+
+
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people">molch.b at googlemail.com
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+ <I>Mon Apr 18 17:39:21 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>2011/4/18 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> In the continuity of the WWC speech, ennael and I think it could be
+</I>&gt;<i> worth it to setup a series of posts in the blog about:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- what developers can find in Mageia (technology stacks that suit them)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- what users can find in Mageia (tools that help them)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- what people can do with Mageia (what gets done with it in the real
+</I>&gt;<i> world out there)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- what people can do for Mageia (contributors, in what, how and where).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Those both to show what is in, and get feedback about what could be in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would be a long series and the start would be with the technology
+</I>&gt;<i> stacks (perl, python, ruby, php, etc.) in the form of some global
+</I>&gt;<i> overview and one-on-one interviews with involved packagers/developers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All in all, that would make 4 categories, and maybe need 4 distinct
+</I>&gt;<i> persons to manage each category. In the best case scenario, we would
+</I>&gt;<i> post 2 per week. In the worst, 1 every two weeks. And for that we
+</I>&gt;<i> could use bonjourmageia.fr as a distinct mean to lead people to the
+</I>&gt;<i> blog post.
+</I>
+You have a great idea (the series of blog posts, showcasing Mageia's
+benefits for several different groups). The blog page is surely one
+way to post that series but blog posts are very short lived animals if
+there is no central pointer to them. So far I agree.
+
+But then again you hide that pointer away in some web page which
+people will find only by chance. Even if this &quot;bonjourmageia.fr&quot; would
+be linked on the portal page of Mageia people would not recognize it
+as a pointer to such valuable documents. What does &quot;bonjourmageia&quot;
+mean to the people who arrive at mageia.org? First guess: some page
+for the Frenchies because it's a French name. Second guess (of those
+who understand &quot;bonjour&quot;): Ok, some page showing the Mageia people who
+want to say &quot;Bonjour&quot; to me. Not the real goal of the page, is it?
+
+This showcase of possible benefits can be a series of blog posts but
+not hidden where people would not find it. Why not put links on the
+portal page where it says &quot;Mageia's benefits for You ...&quot; then
+followed by &quot;... if you are a developper&quot; and &quot;... if you are a user
+of the Mageia distribution.&quot;
+
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+&gt;<i> 2011/4/18 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In the continuity of the WWC speech, ennael and I think it could be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> worth it to setup a series of posts in the blog about: [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You have a great idea (the series of blog posts, showcasing Mageia's
+</I>&gt;<i> benefits for several different groups). The blog page is surely one
+</I>&gt;<i> way to post that series but blog posts are very short lived animals if
+</I>&gt;<i> there is no central pointer to them. So far I agree.
+</I>
+Cool :-p
+
+&gt;<i> But then again you hide that pointer away in some web page which
+</I>&gt;<i> people will find only by chance. Even if this &quot;bonjourmageia.fr&quot; would
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>
+I intend to do that on the blog first. Then advertise from anywhere
+relevant, of course - if it gets to volume or interesting enough, we
+may even later open dedicated sections in the website, to tweak the
+articles design even further (but that's really for later).
+
+bonjourmageia.fr is in no way meant to be the single entry point, but
+one among others, by accident - I noticed it in relation to my
+previous post (past week).
+
+bonjourmageia.fr would indeed only matter to French-speaking people,
+and show, each time, a photo of someone or some event, and link
+somewhere, if there is something to link to (like, a blog post). So
+there would not be necessarily a 1-1 relation between bonjourmageia.fr
+and these series. bonjour*.fr is typically a French meme here and it
+would be used as such. Now, there may be, or not, equivalent memes in
+other locales, I don't know (didn't find so far).
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+Romain
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 17:39, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/4/18 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In the continuity of the WWC speech, ennael and I think it could be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> worth it to setup a series of posts in the blog about: [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You have a great idea (the series of blog posts, showcasing Mageia's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> benefits for several different groups). The blog page is surely one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> way to post that series but blog posts are very short lived animals if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there is no central pointer to them. So far I agree.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cool :-p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But then again you hide that pointer away in some web page which
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people will find only by chance. Even if this &quot;bonjourmageia.fr&quot; would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I intend to do that on the blog first. Then advertise from anywhere
+</I>&gt;<i> relevant, of course - if it gets to volume or interesting enough, we
+</I>&gt;<i> may even later open dedicated sections in the website, to tweak the
+</I>&gt;<i> articles design even further (but that's really for later).
+</I>
+That is what I meant - this series is too good an idea to let it slip
+away into the &quot;ideas we may put into action some day but never will&quot;
+box. We should push this - IMHO it is one of the best marketing ideas
+I read so far.
+
+&gt;<i> bonjourmageia.fr is in no way meant to be the single entry point, but
+</I>&gt;<i> one among others, by accident - I noticed it in relation to my
+</I>&gt;<i> previous post (past week).
+</I>
+Ah, I see, so it would be a rather sideways entry point. Good.
+
+BTW: I am not so happy about the &quot;bonjourmageia&quot; idea being a
+French-only thing. Putting up such a French-only thing would be the
+same as if I said, let's do a &quot;WillkommenMageia.de&quot; for a start to let
+people know the faces of Mageia. Or if we had started a French forum
+first instead of an English forum. We should push international ideas
+and sites first, if a local page will copy that or if a local group
+will do a localisation, fine and welcome.
+
+--
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> just a quick note for information, in case it can be reused somehow.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne, Damien, Nicolas, Arnaud and me went to WebWorkersCamp in Paris
+</I>&gt;<i> past Friday/Saturday, and I did a presentation about Mageia, in this
+</I>&gt;<i> context (BarCamp, centered around new/edgy Web technologies).
+</I>
+can you share it with us?
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Most of the audience was made of Web professionals and developers -
+</I>&gt;<i> that did not hear about Mageia before (but were aware of the Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> ecosystem in general).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Briefly (because the slides were in French and did not hold all of the
+</I>&gt;<i> speech), that was done in three parts:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. what is Mageia? and what happened since past September
+</I>&gt;<i> - project/distribution/association
+</I>&gt;<i> - #1 goal was to give control of the project to the community/governance
+</I>&gt;<i> - history of 7 past months
+</I>&gt;<i> - coming months (final release, brainstorming)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [CUT]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. (asking the audience) questions? what is missing for you in
+</I>&gt;<i> existing OS stacks? what could be done? (Q/A part of the speech
+</I>&gt;<i> actually); so questions were (from memory):
+</I>&gt;<i> q. why yet another distribution? what will be success like for
+</I>&gt;<i> you? what difference? when?
+</I>&gt;<i> =&gt; explained the first need to move the project into different
+</I>&gt;<i> hands/governance - and that fragmentation is not a bad thing, or
+</I>&gt;<i> something to fear, as long as one differentiate enough from others, to
+</I>&gt;<i> explore different paths - paths to actually be defined _after_ Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> 1, during the brainstorming session - so this answer was far from
+</I>&gt;<i> convincing, of course.
+</I>
+the answer must be find in the marketing plan, this is one of the reason i want
+to have it as soon as possible:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan</A>
+
+i'm starting to work on it, these days there will be many improvements (and
+lot of thing to be discussed)
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> q. how many downloads/users have you already? and compared to Mandriva?
+</I>&gt;<i> =&gt; very difficult figure to get in general; however, last
+</I>&gt;<i> year, MDV could count about 3M users, all versions included; for
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia, we can't count users yet, our finale is not yet released - but
+</I>&gt;<i> we've experienced about 60k downloads for alpha2/beta1 and we expect
+</I>&gt;<i> to aim for 1M downloads for Mageia 1 over the year.
+</I>
+can't we discover how many users has mageia using the updates logs?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here you are.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> ___________________________________
+</I>
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> In the continuity of the WWC speech, ennael and I think it could be
+</I>&gt;<i> worth it to setup a series of posts in the blog about:
+</I>&gt;<i> - what developers can find in Mageia (technology stacks that suit them)
+</I>&gt;<i> - what users can find in Mageia (tools that help them)
+</I>&gt;<i> - what people can do with Mageia (what gets done with it in the real
+</I>&gt;<i> world out there)
+</I>&gt;<i> - what people can do for Mageia (contributors, in what, how and where).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Those both to show what is in, and get feedback about what could be in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would be a long series and the start would be with the technology
+</I>&gt;<i> stacks (perl, python, ruby, php, etc.) in the form of some global
+</I>&gt;<i> overview and one-on-one interviews with involved packagers/developers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All in all, that would make 4 categories, and maybe need 4 distinct
+</I>&gt;<i> persons to manage each category. In the best case scenario, we would
+</I>&gt;<i> post 2 per week. In the worst, 1 every two weeks. And for that we
+</I>&gt;<i> could use bonjourmageia.fr as a distinct mean to lead people to the
+</I>&gt;<i> blog post.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Advice? I can start a draft for the whole structure to announce this,
+</I>&gt;<i> and have a first post designed for Perl with J&#233;r&#244;me Quelin (who
+</I>&gt;<i> packages most, if not all of it).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> __________________________
+</I>
+as i have already told you in the previous e-mail, i think we first need to
+setup a complete marketing plan that will driver our everyday action. For
+istance, in these blog posts you could have these issues:
+
+what users can find in Mageia -&gt; who are our users? which features they will
+expect? are we able to provide them?
+
+- what people can do with Mageia (what gets done with it in the real world out
+there) -&gt; what kind of people? depending on the people we adress to, it
+changes the work of the user
+
+if we don't have clear these aspects, we will be only ANOTHER linux distro,
+and i wan't that this happens.
+
+i think that until now blog posts about development progress should be enough,
+otherwise we risk to do all the errors the most of the distro do everyday...
+
+cheers,
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+<PRE>On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 23:52, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> [...] did a presentation [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> can you share it with us?
+</I>
+Those were 6/7 very succinct slides to reference my words; the
+description here matters much more than the actual slides (in French).
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; q. why yet another distribution? what will be success like for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you? what difference? when?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; =&gt; explained the first need to move the project into different
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hands/governance - and that fragmentation is not a bad thing, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something to fear, as long as one differentiate enough from others, to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> explore different paths - paths to actually be defined _after_ Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1, during the brainstorming session - so this answer was far from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> convincing, of course.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the answer must be find in the marketing plan, this is one of the reason i want
+</I>&gt;<i> to have it as soon as possible:
+</I>
+Yes, to formally design the goal to reach. But the source of it is in
+the brainstorm session - it does not come out of nowhere, and does not
+come only from marcom.
+
+But don't get me wrong. The role of marcom is still critical to
+gather/educate/make a consistent plan out of the discussed
+ideas/plans.
+
+So far, we can only say &quot;it could be this, it could be that&quot;, because
+Mageia 1 goal is nothing more than: making a cool, working
+distribution all by ourselves. Then, iterate on this.
+
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i'm starting to work on it, these days there will be many improvements (and
+</I>&gt;<i> lot of thing to be discussed)
+</I>
+Cool, please keep the list regularly updated about this, as you make
+progress. Just a note, about vision/mission, there were notes on
+Graham's wiki.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; q. how many downloads/users have you already? and compared to Mandriva?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; =&gt; very difficult figure to get in general; however, last
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> year, MDV could count about 3M users, all versions included; for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia, we can't count users yet, our finale is not yet released - but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we've experienced about 60k downloads for alpha2/beta1 and we expect
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to aim for 1M downloads for Mageia 1 over the year.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> can't we discover how many users has mageia using the updates logs?
+</I>
+Not as easy as that; that requires to consolidate logs from all
+mirrors (not counting mirrors we are not aware of) and to take into
+the fact that behind the same IP address can live several systems.
+
+We need another indicator, like, a single ping to a single Mageia
+server each time an install or update process is started - that's not
+perfect yet, but at least it indicates a figure correlated with the
+number of active systems in the wild (and of which version). We used
+to have such a system at MDV.
+
+There may be other methods (among which some very intrusive ones, that
+are not options for us) - I know other distributions faced the same
+issues - Fedora did publish a summary about this, but I can't find the
+document back.
+
+Romain
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+&gt;&gt;<i> In the continuity of the WWC speech, ennael and I think it could be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> worth it to setup a series of posts in the blog about:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what developers can find in Mageia (technology stacks that suit them)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what users can find in Mageia (tools that help them)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what people can do with Mageia (what gets done with it in the real
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> world out there)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what people can do for Mageia (contributors, in what, how and where).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Those both to show what is in, and get feedback about what could be in.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That would be a long series and the start would be with the technology
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> stacks (perl, python, ruby, php, etc.) in the form of some global
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> overview and one-on-one interviews with involved packagers/developers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> All in all, that would make 4 categories, and maybe need 4 distinct
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> persons to manage each category. In the best case scenario, we would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> post 2 per week. In the worst, 1 every two weeks. And for that we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> could use bonjourmageia.fr as a distinct mean to lead people to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> blog post.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Advice? I can start a draft for the whole structure to announce this,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and have a first post designed for Perl with J&#233;r&#244;me Quelin (who
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages most, if not all of it).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> __________________________
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as i have already told you in the previous e-mail, i think we first need to
+</I>&gt;<i> setup a complete marketing plan that will driver our everyday action. For
+</I>&gt;<i> istance, in these blog posts you could have these issues:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> what users can find in Mageia -&gt; who are our users? which features they will
+</I>&gt;<i> expect? are we able to provide them?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - what people can do with Mageia (what gets done with it in the real world out
+</I>&gt;<i> there) -&gt; what kind of people? depending on the people we adress to, it
+</I>&gt;<i> changes the work of the user
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> if we don't have clear these aspects, we will be only ANOTHER linux distro,
+</I>&gt;<i> and i wan't that this happens.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i think that until now blog posts about development progress should be enough,
+</I>&gt;<i> otherwise we risk to do all the errors the most of the distro do everyday...
+</I>
+So we are back at the &quot;Who are our targets?&quot; discussion?
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 00:00, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> as i have already told you in the previous e-mail, i think we first need to
+</I>&gt;<i> setup a complete marketing plan that will driver our everyday action.
+</I>
+Very little things in life go &quot;by the plan&quot;. It does not mean plans
+are useless but that we need to know when to start/change things/plans
+- that's culture.
+
+&gt;<i> what users can find in Mageia -&gt; who are our users? which features they will
+</I>&gt;<i> expect? are we able to provide them?
+</I>
+Our users will first be the ones that find a fit with what we propose
+to them, that matches our expectations (build, propose, gather
+feedback, iterate). So first, our users will be ... us. Then, what we
+can learn from feedback from larger circles. Later, our users will be
+those that find a fit with specifics, because we will have searched
+after this fit.
+
+The goal in this series is to propose what we (well, those that will
+make this very series) find valuable and noticeable in Mageia for
+developers for one part, users for another part. Precisely to raise
+interest into the product and the technology, and gather feedback (we
+won't by staying silent).
+
+
+&gt;<i> - what people can do with Mageia (what gets done with it in the real world out
+</I>&gt;<i> there) -&gt; what kind of people? depending on the people we adress to, it
+</I>&gt;<i> changes the work of the user
+</I>
+That's why we can address a lot of people, and see how it goes. And
+showcase very different uses of the same base technology.
+
+
+&gt;<i> if we don't have clear these aspects, we will be only ANOTHER linux distro,
+</I>&gt;<i> and i wan't that this happens.
+</I>
+Looking first for a specific class of users for a Linux
+desktop/laptop/server distribution today is maybe a good idea if you
+want to grasp on some market share, if you already have something to
+adapt and aim to - after all, Linux has still a lot to gain.
+
+Doing so for a technology project (what Mageia is) is premature.
+Premature for two reasons:
+
+ * I have no idea - no one has, about the direction that Mageia will
+take in the coming months, after Mageia 1 release. Well, I have an
+intuition, I have wishes. But that does not make for the project
+goals, even if I'm on the Board. No one is expected to decide about
+this before this Summer brainstorm session has happened.
+
+ * Mageia is building a pretty generic Linux distribution (goes for
+desktop, server, laptop, for several architectures). What it needs
+next to have a distinct identity on its own is not to search for
+specific users as a whole. What it needs is to wildly experiment,
+_aside from the main trunk_.
+
+Experiment like:
+ - breaking it apart in smaller, to-the-point, specific and
+extraordinarily optimized use-cases (desktop/server/laptop/mobile are
+the biggest use-cases so far, but what about the next 5 years? the
+iPhone didn't even exist 5 years ago);
+ - make yet-another-Linux distro that just boots, and launches a
+customized Web browser only - yes, there are several in this area
+already, among which Chromium - but having the knowledge/experience of
+what this involves and what this provides may be important here;
+ - scratch the surface, from a community point of view, of aiming at
+a specific set of hardware platforms, so that the integrated
+experience of Mageia software with these is _better_ than with other,
+more generic platforms;
+
+Those are only 3 samples; maybe other ideas can come out of a
+brainstorm; maybe not. Maybe it will conclude that, no, we won't go
+experimenting this wild and secure first a stronger trunk for the
+distribution, and only allow small teams to go in the wild like this;
+or only let companies around take the risk/reward about this on their
+own, from Mageia trunk. I have no idea. No one has. Because, again, no
+one is expected to decide about this before this brainstorm session
+has happened.
+
+You will say that it's foolish to do so without having a single
+knowledge of what users we are looking after. Maybe. But it is even
+worse to engage in a project one doesn't crave for oneself - in other
+words, no one in Mageia will make something great if it is not already
+in love with what it is, notwithstanding potential users out there.
+
+Let the project (the community forming it, you included) find out what
+it wants to do first; being part of the marcomm' team, help then the
+project to find if, and how, people out there, will like/use it as
+well. And how to iterate to approach this.
+
+Closing the project scope now by searching after user targets now is
+premature. That's the same message as in past November. And that
+doesn't void the marcom team role and relevance. It makes it different
+than what you seem to expect, though.
+
+
+&gt;<i> i think that until now blog posts about development progress should be enough,
+</I>&gt;<i> otherwise we risk to do all the errors the most of the distro do everyday...
+</I>
+I don't think showcasing our processes, people and products in the
+open is an error. And it's not because it may sound naive that it is
+either.
+
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 00:00, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as i have already told you in the previous e-mail, i think we first need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> setup a complete marketing plan that will driver our everyday action.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Very little things in life go &quot;by the plan&quot;. It does not mean plans
+</I>&gt;<i> are useless but that we need to know when to start/change things/plans
+</I>&gt;<i> - that's culture.
+</I>
+Just to make sure. I'm not saying you shouldn't build a plan neither
+discuss it with the team here and others. We need a plan. And your
+draft structure looks good.
+
+But be careful to keep it as small/focused as possible, practical with
+clear objectives per milestones and with actual action dates (so we
+can retro-plan, say starting with RC release - yes, that's short).
+Both for the final release in June, and for the long term (brainstorm
+session to design for this Summer &amp; the project per-se).
+
+Romain
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+
+----Messaggio originale----
+Da: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>
+Data: 19-apr-2011 10.07
+A: &quot;Mageia marketing team discussion list&quot;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Ogg: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+
+On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 00:51, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 00:00, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as i have already told you in the previous e-mail, i think we first need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> setup a complete marketing plan that will driver our everyday action.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Very little things in life go &quot;by the plan&quot;. It does not mean plans
+</I>&gt;<i> are useless but that we need to know when to start/change things/plans
+</I>&gt;<i> - that's culture.
+</I>
+Just to make sure. I'm not saying you shouldn't build a plan neither
+discuss it with the team here and others. We need a plan. And your
+draft structure looks good.
+
+But be careful to keep it as small/focused as possible, practical with
+clear objectives per milestones and with actual action dates (so we
+can retro-plan, say starting with RC release - yes, that's short).
+Both for the final release in June, and for the long term (brainstorm
+session to design for this Summer &amp;amp; the project per-se).
+
+Romain
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+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+
+sure, as you can see in the marketing plan we have a mid-term action plan and a short-term one. the current situation will be taken in consideration to elaborate our strategies, in both plans. naturally in the short-term action plan there will be no radical or important change, as the time is running out fast.
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
+
+PS= i tried the installation of the beta 1 and it didn't install a lot of packages (among the others, kde one!), i hope live cds will be out soon!!
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+
+we're still in a last-minute-hurry, here for a quick review, the blog
+post as projected for beta2: <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/i6UfwZgIcQ">http://piratepad.net/i6UfwZgIcQ</A> - will be
+pushed in the next few hours (if not less).
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+I suggest we make it differently as soon as RC as a rehearsal for
+finale: we define the big lines together and adapt the message and we
+review/validate the text in advance (at least 2 days) so we can better
+sync and plan the spread of the news.
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+Cheers!
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+
+&gt;<i> we're still in a last-minute-hurry, here for a quick review, the
+</I>&gt;<i> blog post as projected for beta2: <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/i6UfwZgIcQ">http://piratepad.net/i6UfwZgIcQ</A> -
+</I>&gt;<i> will be pushed in the next few hours (if not less).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suggest we make it differently as soon as RC as a rehearsal for
+</I>&gt;<i> finale: we define the big lines together and adapt the message and
+</I>&gt;<i> we review/validate the text in advance (at least 2 days) so we can
+</I>&gt;<i> better sync and plan the spread of the news.
+</I>
+I've made just a few edits at this stage, for the English. We're
+still talking to the Inner Circle[1] here - this announcement is fine
+for this audience IMO. For Final, we might want to have something
+more/else/additional. Comments on this notion welcome.
+
+Any other comments on the post itself?
+
+[1] Thinking about the audience as a set of concentric rings -
+founders being the innermost point, the current devs/testers the
+innermost circle, and additional audiences (hardcore/geeky users, out
+to Joe and Jane Public) being circles at a greater distance from the
+innermost point. (Nothing to stop people from moving from one circle
+to another, either.)
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
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+On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 21:05, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I've made just a few edits at this stage, for the English.
+</I>
+Thanks! I pushed these to the blog.
+
+&gt;<i> We're still talking to the Inner Circle[1] here - this announcement is fine
+</I>&gt;<i> for this audience IMO. For Final, we might want to have something
+</I>&gt;<i> more/else/additional. Comments on this notion welcome.
+</I>
+Well, include hardcode/geeky users in the circle. But yes, before RC,
+we're not adressing more people than that and the full big opening is
+really only for the final release.
+
+The release message really has to focus on the product and what
+people, everyone, can do with it/from it.
+
+The &quot;what's next?&quot; topic will need to be prepared but strictly
+separated, and for mid-June, once the release is at full speed.
+
+&gt;<i> Any other comments on the post itself?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] Thinking about the audience as a set of concentric rings -
+</I>&gt;<i> founders being the innermost point, the current devs/testers the
+</I>&gt;<i> innermost circle, and additional audiences (hardcore/geeky users, out
+</I>&gt;<i> to Joe and Jane Public) being circles at a greater distance from the
+</I>&gt;<i> innermost point. (Nothing to stop people from moving from one circle
+</I>&gt;<i> to another, either.)
+</I>
+
+
+--
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+On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 14:43, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Event is coming nearer.
+</I>
+Even nearer now.
+
+&gt;<i> Needed things:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- stickers or any other marketing material (t-shirts will be there)
+</I>
+Did you get some? I can fetch some from Damien.
+
+&gt;<i> &#160;- Mageia presentation, which will run as an eye catcher on a 26&quot; screen.
+</I>
+Do we have a status for that?
+
+&gt;<i> &#160;- anything else you can think of.
+</I>
+Beer and fun. But I think we'll find this in place.
+
+&gt;<i> About the presentation:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- I can do it in German but I'd prefer an initial layout which may be
+</I>&gt;<i> used by other languages as well.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- If you are planning such a thing in French for Solution Linux, pls
+</I>&gt;<i> share it with us.
+</I>
+Anne, Misc; have something?
+
+Romain
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+
+so... shall we hold an IRC meeting this week (and then when? I will be
+offline on coming Fri/Sat) or summarize things here instead? :-)
+
+On my list, I have (feel free to add, comment):
+ * relative to my past posts, any further comment about:
+ - localized bonjour* idea; with a bonjourmageia.fr experiment first
+and more later with better directions;
+ - hugs; quick to setup and throw;
+ - people profiles; will not happen at once, but it's good to know in advance;
+ - blog post series (technical stacks first, contributors second,
+others later) - a pace of once a week would be good to keep and we'd
+need to start it soon - needs a quick list of questions to prepare, I
+can help to start that;
+ * I opened this related bug <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=998">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=998</A>
+ * all distribution/web/communication artwork:
+ - final distribution related stuff must be done, closed, shipped
+before RC - so directions and reviews with/to artwork team must be
+done very soon; who can take on this?
+ - web artwork/design for final release should be done as well around RC
+ - other stuff?
+ * marketing plan:
+ - saw there's some progress on it, will post a few comments when
+you see it good enough for this Marcello;
+ - I'd like to add a quick time table to help with retro planning
+here (integrating some of the above);
+ * anything else?
+
+We didn't hold a Council meeting this week - should happen next Monday though.
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Romain d'Alverny
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/">http://mageia.org/</A> board &amp; council member
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+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; - blog post series (technical stacks first, contributors second,
+</I>&gt;<i> others later) - a pace of once a week would be good to keep and we'd
+</I>&gt;<i> need to start it soon - needs a quick list of questions to prepare, I
+</I>&gt;<i> can help to start that;
+</I>
+Draft list of questions here: <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/AX93jcSCTo">http://piratepad.net/AX93jcSCTo</A> - it's a
+mix between an interview format and an expos&#233; about the technical
+stack at stake, within the interview itself - so it's less didactic
+although it can be an introduction to something more specific,
+separate.
+
+Advice?
+
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+&gt;<i> &#160;* I opened this related bug <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=998">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=998</A>
+</I>
+Ah, and again related to that (sorry for the multiple posts), I'd like
+to know how could be done a way to push the names (or nicknames, for
+all that agree with it) of all the contributors (well, those that
+opt-in) to the project to be published somewhere, in some way.
+
+We can't afford something like
+<A HREF="http://www-archive.mozilla.org/press/mozilla-2004-12-15.html">http://www-archive.mozilla.org/press/mozilla-2004-12-15.html</A> for now,
+but that the idea of something related (targetting affordable print
+press or high-traffic venue to show off/thank all contributors).
+
+Requires:
+ - a list of people to opt-in/validate;
+ - an original design;
+ - a message in the &quot;thank you&quot; or &quot;well done&quot; sense (or other?)
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i> shall we hold our meeting tomorrow, same place (#mageia-artwork), same
+</I>&gt;<i> time (17:00 UTC, 19:00 Paris time). Would be nice to have a status of
+</I>&gt;<i> the following (feel free to post here directly if you are not sure to
+</I>&gt;<i> be at the meeting!):
+</I>
+Here are the notes:
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-04-27-17.12.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-04-27-17.12.html</A>
+
+(cc marcom)
+
+&gt;<i> &#160;* distribution artwork:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; - boot process
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; - install process
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; - desktop (splashes, backgrounds)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; - hibernation, shutdown processes
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;* mageia.org artwork:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; - logo &amp; favicon &amp; media availability on website
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; - kakemono proposals and progress
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; - website design, especially towards June 1st release
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+
+as someone requested on -discuss a few days (weeks?) ago, we'll answer
+to it (notified anew this evening, we're late). That's for
+<A HREF="http://www.tuxinfo.com.ar/">http://www.tuxinfo.com.ar/</A> .
+
+I pushed the questions here: <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/yx5TGbXwga">http://piratepad.net/yx5TGbXwga</A> and I'll
+start working on it with ennael by tomorrow. Your input is
+welcome/needed too if you have advice.
+
+(on a separate topic, I still have to create accounts/aliases for
+Patricia on press@, contact@ and the English-speaking blog - hopefully
+done by tomorrow)
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+Cheers,
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+<PRE>2011/4/27 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 14:43, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Event is coming nearer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Even nearer now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Needed things:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- stickers or any other marketing material (t-shirts will be there)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Did you get some? I can fetch some from Damien.
+</I>
+No, you're the first responding to my mail.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- Mageia presentation, which will run as an eye catcher on a 26&quot; screen.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do we have a status for that?
+</I>
+I am about to start something myself as soon as I get hold of my
+computers again - currently I'm not at home.
+So much for my silence in general ...
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- anything else you can think of.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Beer and fun. But I think we'll find this in place.
+</I>
+A beer is waiting for all 3 of you at the hotel on Thursday night...
+
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+
+Just to let you know, I've seen the lists - I'm still up to my ears
+with the day job, but I'll have some time tomorrow night to get on
+it. Some of it's for us to do, some of it we need input from other
+people.
+
+Might be an idea to set some of this up as bugs - that reminder
+feature is very handy!
+
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+&gt;<i> Hi Romain &amp; all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just to let you know, I've seen the lists - I'm still up to my ears
+</I>&gt;<i> with the day job, but I'll have some time tomorrow night to get on
+</I>&gt;<i> it. Some of it's for us to do, some of it we need input from other
+</I>&gt;<i> people.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Might be an idea to set some of this up as bugs - that reminder
+</I>&gt;<i> feature is very handy!
+</I>
+Yes, I should have reported my questions about practical marketing
+(Linuxtag event) as bug report to get an earlier response from
+marketing.
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+On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 21:04, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Just to let you know, I've seen the lists - I'm still up to my ears
+</I>&gt;<i> with the day job, but I'll have some time tomorrow night to get on
+</I>&gt;<i> it. Some of it's for us to do, some of it we need input from other
+</I>&gt;<i> people.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Might be an idea to set some of this up as bugs - that reminder
+</I>&gt;<i> feature is very handy!
+</I>
+Ok, I can translate my mail into this tomorrow morning.
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+On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 23:13, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Might be an idea to set some of this up as bugs - that reminder
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> feature is very handy!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, I can translate my mail into this tomorrow morning.
+</I>
+Not done yet. :-/ Btw, interview to proof-read a last time (already
+done with -dev team): <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/yx5TGbXwga">http://piratepad.net/yx5TGbXwga</A> - I'll push this
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+
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 23:13, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Might be an idea to set some of this up as bugs - that reminder
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; feature is very handy!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ok, I can translate my mail into this tomorrow morning.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not done yet. :-/ Btw, interview to proof-read a last time (already
+</I>&gt;<i> done with -dev team): <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/yx5TGbXwga">http://piratepad.net/yx5TGbXwga</A> - I'll push
+</I>&gt;<i> this to Jos&#233; later this evening.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 16:32, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; - blog post series (technical stacks first, contributors second,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; others later) - a pace of once a week would be good to keep and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; we'd need to start it soon - needs a quick list of questions to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; prepare, I can help to start that;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Draft list of questions here: <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/AX93jcSCTo">http://piratepad.net/AX93jcSCTo</A> -
+</I>&gt;<i> it's a mix between an interview format and an expos&#233; about the
+</I>&gt;<i> technical stack at stake, within the interview itself - so it's
+</I>&gt;<i> less didactic although it can be an introduction to something more
+</I>&gt;<i> specific, separate.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Advice?
+</I>
+I like it. I think it's ready to push out.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+&gt;<i> Added a bit. Chuck it if you don't like it. Proofed - seems fine.
+</I>
+Thanks. I just sent it.
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+
+&gt;<i> so... shall we hold an IRC meeting this week (and then when? I will
+</I>&gt;<i> be offline on coming Fri/Sat) or summarize things here instead? :-)
+</I>
+I really, really need to get that IRC meeting time changed - it keeps
+colliding with work in the worst way. I know the i18n team meets on
+Thursdays - I'd be happier to meet after that, if it's possible.
+Thoughts welcome. Looking at the possibilities calendar we all put
+together, there's quite a spread. (Changing to another day is also
+possible...)
+
+&gt;<i> On my list, I have (feel free to add, comment):
+</I>&gt;<i> * relative to my past posts, any further comment about:
+</I>&gt;<i> - localized bonjour* idea; with a bonjourmageia.fr experiment
+</I>&gt;<i> first and more later with better directions;
+</I>
+Yep. Can we roll that together with the blog post series? do a
+photo/pithy comment version of the blog post for Bonjour? maybe with
+pointers in both directions? And post on Facebook to say they're
+there, and so on...
+
+&gt;<i> - hugs; quick to setup and throw;
+</I>
+Yep. And *always* good!
+
+&gt;<i> - people profiles; will not happen at once, but it's good to
+</I>&gt;<i> know in advance;
+</I>
+Yep. Do we have a place for them? On the website? Separate blog?
+Where?
+
+&gt;<i> - blog post series (technical stacks first, contributors second,
+</I>&gt;<i> others later) - a pace of once a week would be good to keep and we'd
+</I>&gt;<i> need to start it soon - needs a quick list of questions to prepare,
+</I>&gt;<i> I can help to start that;
+</I>
+I like the questions you have. As we see the need for more/different
+kinds of questions (from i18n, artwork, whoever) it just needs the
+more specialist questions changing - easy enough to bolt on when the
+time comes.
+
+&gt;<i> * I opened this related bug
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=998">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=998</A>
+</I>
+Yep. It would be great to map our people, to have their geo location
+on their profile (if they agree, of course) - we'll have lots of ways
+to make this work to grow the community, if people don't mind joining
+in.
+
+&gt;<i> * all distribution/web/communication artwork:
+</I>&gt;<i> - final distribution related stuff must be done, closed, shipped
+</I>&gt;<i> before RC - so directions and reviews with/to artwork team must be
+</I>&gt;<i> done very soon; who can take on this?
+</I>
+Who's the artwork lead at the moment? I can take it on so long as a)
+I know who to approach (sending mails to the list doesn't always
+work) and b) what the deadlines are. I have some time on the weekend
+before I bolt off for 10 days on a trip, so I could maybe map stuff
+out with someone, and do bits and pieces while I'm away.
+
+&gt;<i> - web artwork/design for final release should be done as well
+</I>&gt;<i> around RC
+</I>
+Is that only artwork/marcomm? I would think we need other teams in
+on this, yes? Who, and how to pull it all together?
+
+&gt;<i> - other stuff?
+</I>
+The kakemono - is it finished, and did Damien get to use it? I saw
+some stuff whizz by, but it seemed like it was a) late and b)
+unfinished. If we're doing projects like that - kakemono, posters,
+t-shirts... where there's input from both artwork and marcom, who is
+supposed to keep after it until completion? Can I make a strong case
+for its being artwork, at least for now?
+
+&gt;<i> * marketing plan:
+</I>&gt;<i> - saw there's some progress on it, will post a few comments when
+</I>&gt;<i> you see it good enough for this Marcello;
+</I>
+Yes.
+
+&gt;<i> - I'd like to add a quick time table to help with retro planning
+</I>&gt;<i> here (integrating some of the above);
+</I>&gt;<i> * anything else?
+</I>
+Yes, please.
+
+&gt;<i> We didn't hold a Council meeting this week - should happen next
+</I>&gt;<i> Monday though.
+</I>
+I'll be in transit Monday night, so no Council meeting for me, but it
+would be good to have an IRC meet for marcom in the next day or so if
+there's anyone around.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+
+On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 21:54, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I really, really need to get that IRC meeting time changed [...]
+</I>
+I'm totally open to that (and any other way that would help for this
+meeting to happen regularly).
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- localized bonjour* idea; with a bonjourmageia.fr experiment
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> first and more later with better directions;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep. Can we roll that together with the blog post series? do a
+</I>&gt;<i> photo/pithy comment version of the blog post for Bonjour? maybe with
+</I>&gt;<i> pointers in both directions? And post on Facebook to say they're
+</I>&gt;<i> there, and so on...
+</I>
+Yep, we can. <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1044">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1044</A>
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- hugs; quick to setup and throw;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep. And *always* good!
+</I>
+Ok. <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1043">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1043</A>
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- people profiles; will not happen at once, but it's good to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> know in advance;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep. Do we have a place for them? On the website? Separate blog?
+</I>&gt;<i> Where?
+</I>
+That would be based on an extension of identity, with a distinct
+subdomain. And so far, this would be a specific app (existing or to
+design). So it's not for real now, but it's good to know we go this
+way to design further.
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1045">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1045</A>
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- blog post series (technical stacks first, contributors second,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> others later) - a pace of once a week would be good to keep and we'd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> need to start it soon - needs a quick list of questions to prepare,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can help to start that;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I like the questions you have. As we see the need for more/different
+</I>&gt;<i> kinds of questions (from i18n, artwork, whoever) it just needs the
+</I>&gt;<i> more specialist questions changing - easy enough to bolt on when the
+</I>&gt;<i> time comes.
+</I>
+Cool! :-) So I'll push this to the list of people we know already, and
+submit it to -dev team to get more people for the next pieces.
+
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* I opened this related bug
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=998">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=998</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep. It would be great to map our people, to have their geo location
+</I>&gt;<i> on their profile (if they agree, of course) - we'll have lots of ways
+</I>&gt;<i> to make this work to grow the community, if people don't mind joining
+</I>&gt;<i> in.
+</I>
+Oliver (obgr) told me he would take on this with a friend, for the
+technical part, starting next week.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* all distribution/web/communication artwork:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- final distribution related stuff must be done, closed, shipped
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> before RC - so directions and reviews with/to artwork team must be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> done very soon; who can take on this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Who's the artwork lead at the moment? I can take it on so long as a)
+</I>&gt;<i> I know who to approach (sending mails to the list doesn't always
+</I>&gt;<i> work) and b) what the deadlines are. I have some time on the weekend
+</I>&gt;<i> before I bolt off for 10 days on a trip, so I could maybe map stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> out with someone, and do bits and pieces while I'm away.
+</I>
+I'm the lead for now there too; TeaAge is getting a grip on this, and
+it's supposed to change after Mageia 1 release (so I do hope).
+Distribution artwork freeze is on its way [1], deadline being asap
+now, so that RC has all final stuff. What needs to be done is: counter
+review all beta2 stuff and submitted updates by the artwork team. It's
+hard to get the team together but at the meeting on Wednesday - some
+people hang out regularly on the chanel though.
+
+[1] See yesterday's meeting log:
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-04-27-17.12.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-04-27-17.12.html</A>
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- web artwork/design for final release should be done as well
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> around RC
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is that only artwork/marcomm? I would think we need other teams in
+</I>&gt;<i> on this, yes? Who, and how to pull it all together?
+</I>
+Same here. For now, mostly me. That's mostly artwork/marcomm in
+general. But, for this round, website design may be ok. What still
+needs to be done, however, are the release pages (showcasing the
+product) and here, some people in the packagers team are needed (best
+knowledge we can have about the product). So a call on mageia-dev@ ml
+is needed. We need: a story line, key elements, screenshots.
+
+So for these two, I can still act as a lead, but I need some
+assistance and/or teams to self organize a bit as well. Or I will
+happily delegate it as well. The schedule being, as usual here, short.
+I would prefer you focus on the RC/Final release message instead
+maybe.
+
+Then we'll need to refine the download &amp; support portals.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- other stuff?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The kakemono - is it finished, and did Damien get to use it? I saw
+</I>&gt;<i> some stuff whizz by, but it seemed like it was a) late and b)
+</I>&gt;<i> unfinished. If we're doing projects like that - kakemono, posters,
+</I>&gt;<i> t-shirts... where there's input from both artwork and marcom, who is
+</I>&gt;<i> supposed to keep after it until completion? Can I make a strong case
+</I>&gt;<i> for its being artwork, at least for now?
+</I>
+We just need to have someone in charge for specific tasks, not
+necessarily always the same, but at least someone to coordinate and
+keep everyone updated about it.
+
+About kakemono, there was a huge quiproquo in communication; artwork
+team started working on it without notifying anyone and then proposed
+two options; but had no feedback in time. For this round, I'm not sure
+we'll make it for a kakemono, we'll make a smaller poster. Damien,
+around? Could you update everyone about this?
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* marketing plan: [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- I'd like to add a quick time table to help with retro planning
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here (integrating some of the above);
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* anything else?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, please.
+</I>
+Will do next week (and will be around on irc). I'm offline until Monday now.
+
+Have a great week-end!
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>This info arrived by courtesy of the spanish community blogdrake:
+
+2011/4/28 Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">j.alberto.vc at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hello, you can see the blogdrake version of your poster (
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/node/23110">http://blogdrake.net/node/23110</A> ) feel free of do public the info and
+</I>&gt;<i> my gratitude to you and the members of your community
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I only want to let clear i only translate the text, the image
+</I>&gt;<i> manipulation come from other blogdrake's user
+</I>
+As I wrote earlier the overall design and text (in German) will be the
+poster to be displayed at Mageia stand in Berlin.
+
+--
+wobo
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+
+&gt;<i> This info arrived by courtesy of the spanish community blogdrake:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2011/4/28 Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">j.alberto.vc at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello, you can see the blogdrake version of your poster (
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/node/23110">http://blogdrake.net/node/23110</A> ) feel free of do public the info and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; my gratitude to you and the members of your community
+</I>
+There is an error in the contact email. It's <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-contact at mageia.org.</A>
+
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This info arrived by courtesy of the spanish community blogdrake:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/4/28 Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">j.alberto.vc at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hello, you can see the blogdrake version of your poster (
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/node/23110">http://blogdrake.net/node/23110</A> ) feel free of do public the info and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; my gratitude to you and the members of your community
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is an error in the contact email. It's <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-contact at mageia.org.</A>
+</I>
+Thx for the info. I wish someone had noticed this when I sent the
+poster draft to the founders 2 months ago...
+Will change that somehow on the poster.
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>I just sent a message to the general Mageia ML and was told that the
+marketing list is a more appropriate place for the issue - ashes on my
+head: me and marketing ...
+
+My point is on &quot;community marketing&quot; - spreading the good news about
+Mageia between users. When I try to convince a colleage about the merits
+of Mageia I need arguments - evidently I have them, otherwise I would
+not use Mageia. But being convinced about Mageia, and having a
+convincing list of &quot;sellable&quot; arguments at my fingertips are two
+different things. My suggestion is to compile a short but striking list
+of arguments as a base that can be used when, all at sudden - you want
+to convince a fellow user.
+
+I think that the present time is very appropriate moment for this
+user-to-user publicity campaign: technically Mageia is &quot;ready&quot;, formally
+the launch and the - I guess - planned PR campaign are still 2 months away.
+
+Probably the list would best be compiled by collecting ideas and
+arguments in this or some other ML, but doing some central editing to
+keep it well focused and snappy. Another question is how to make it
+available - probably the preliminary wiki or the blog are good places.
+
+Juergen
+
+---- original message to the mageia discuss list -------
+
+Does a list exist which enumerates arguments in favour of selecting
+Mageia when choosing a Linux distribution? - a vademecum for Mageia
+addicts for proselyte making.
+
+When advocating Mageia, it would be nice not to have to invent the same
+list somebody else compiled a couple of days ago, just for himself, and
+would be nice to know the striking arguments oneself did not think about.
+
+I just saw on our Linux ML in the university a debate (k)Ubuntu or Mint
+or ... - nice occasion to drop the good message. I think the present
+time is an excellent moment: even if the distro says &quot;only for testing&quot;,
+Beta is mature for production - anticipate the campaign certainly
+planned for the official launch by an &quot;insider campaign&quot;. Some
+organising of spreading the gospel will certainly help.
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This info arrived by courtesy of the spanish community blogdrake:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/4/28 Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">j.alberto.vc at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hello, you can see the blogdrake version of your poster (
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/node/23110">http://blogdrake.net/node/23110</A> ) feel free of do public the info and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; my gratitude to you and the members of your community
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is an error in the contact email. It's <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-contact at mageia.org.</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I will fix as quick as possible
+</PRE>
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+ <h1>April 2011 Archives by author</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Apr 1 18:45:30 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Apr 30 21:04:35 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 125<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000280.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000288.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000291.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000292.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000301.html">[Mageia-marketing] WebWorkersCamp presentation post-summary
+</A><A NAME="301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000302.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000208.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000210.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000211.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000214.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000215.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000217.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000219.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000221.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000224.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000226.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000230.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000231.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000242.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000249.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000252.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000255.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000257.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4; translating into dutch
+</A><A NAME="257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000259.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000261.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000263.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000269.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000271.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin, Mageia/MandrivaUser.de stand
+</A><A NAME="271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000273.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 15
+</A><A NAME="273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000274.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin, Mageia/MandrivaUser.de stand
+</A><A NAME="274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000295.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000298.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000300.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000304.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000317.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000319.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000327.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000329.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000360.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="360">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000209.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000212.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000213.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000220.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000223.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000225.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000227.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000228.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000240.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000241.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000248.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000253.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000254.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000265.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000266.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000267.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13; installation of Mageia
+</A><A NAME="267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000276.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000278.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17
+</A><A NAME="278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000282.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000283.html">[Mageia-marketing] Sanbox is ready
+</A><A NAME="283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000284.html">[Mageia-marketing] community representation / 3 ideas
+</A><A NAME="284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000286.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000289.html">[Mageia-marketing] IRC Meeting today
+</A><A NAME="289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000290.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000293.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000294.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000309.html">[Mageia-marketing] beta2 blog note
+</A><A NAME="309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000318.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000322.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000323.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000325.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000330.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000275.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000285.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000207.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="207">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000232.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000233.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000234.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000237.html">[Mageia-marketing] repost - original was too big for a marketing list???
+</A><A NAME="237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000238.html">[Mageia-marketing] repost - original was too big for a marketing list???
+</A><A NAME="238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000239.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000243.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000244.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000245.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000307.html">[Mageia-marketing] R: Re: Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>marcello.anni at alice.it
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000216.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000218.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000229.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000236.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000246.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000247.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000250.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000258.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000260.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000262.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000268.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000279.html">[Mageia-marketing] community representation / 3 ideas
+</A><A NAME="279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000287.html">[Mageia-marketing] community representation / 3 ideas
+</A><A NAME="287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000296.html">[Mageia-marketing] WebWorkersCamp presentation post-summary
+</A><A NAME="296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000299.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000303.html">[Mageia-marketing] WebWorkersCamp presentation post-summary
+</A><A NAME="303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000305.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000306.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000308.html">[Mageia-marketing] beta2 blog note
+</A><A NAME="308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000310.html">[Mageia-marketing] beta2 blog note
+</A><A NAME="310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000311.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000312.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000313.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000314.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000315.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000316.html">[Mageia-marketing] Interview for a magazine
+</A><A NAME="316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000320.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000321.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000324.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000326.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000222.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000235.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000270.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000281.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000256.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4; translating into dutch
+</A><A NAME="256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000264.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13; installation of Mageia
+</A><A NAME="264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000272.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 15
+</A><A NAME="272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000277.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17
+</A><A NAME="277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000251.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000328.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Apr 30 21:04:35 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri May 20 11:46:47 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>April 2011 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Apr 1 18:45:30 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Apr 30 21:04:35 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 125<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000207.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="207">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000208.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000209.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000210.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000211.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000212.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000213.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000214.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000215.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000216.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000217.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000218.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000219.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000220.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000221.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000222.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000223.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000224.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000225.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000226.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000227.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000228.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000229.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000230.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000231.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000232.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000233.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000234.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000235.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000236.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000237.html">[Mageia-marketing] repost - original was too big for a marketing list???
+</A><A NAME="237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000238.html">[Mageia-marketing] repost - original was too big for a marketing list???
+</A><A NAME="238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000239.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000240.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000241.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000242.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000243.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000244.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000245.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000246.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000247.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000248.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000249.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000250.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000251.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000252.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000253.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000254.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000255.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000256.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4; translating into dutch
+</A><A NAME="256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000257.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4; translating into dutch
+</A><A NAME="257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000258.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000259.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000260.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000261.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000262.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000263.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000264.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13; installation of Mageia
+</A><A NAME="264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000265.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000266.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000267.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13; installation of Mageia
+</A><A NAME="267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000268.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000269.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000270.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000271.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin, Mageia/MandrivaUser.de stand
+</A><A NAME="271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000272.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 15
+</A><A NAME="272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000273.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 15
+</A><A NAME="273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000274.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin, Mageia/MandrivaUser.de stand
+</A><A NAME="274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000275.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000276.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000277.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17
+</A><A NAME="277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000278.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17
+</A><A NAME="278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000279.html">[Mageia-marketing] community representation / 3 ideas
+</A><A NAME="279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000280.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000281.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000282.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000283.html">[Mageia-marketing] Sanbox is ready
+</A><A NAME="283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000284.html">[Mageia-marketing] community representation / 3 ideas
+</A><A NAME="284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000285.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000286.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000287.html">[Mageia-marketing] community representation / 3 ideas
+</A><A NAME="287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000288.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000289.html">[Mageia-marketing] IRC Meeting today
+</A><A NAME="289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000290.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000291.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000292.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000293.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000294.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000295.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000296.html">[Mageia-marketing] WebWorkersCamp presentation post-summary
+</A><A NAME="296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000298.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000299.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000300.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000301.html">[Mageia-marketing] WebWorkersCamp presentation post-summary
+</A><A NAME="301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000302.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000303.html">[Mageia-marketing] WebWorkersCamp presentation post-summary
+</A><A NAME="303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000304.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000305.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000306.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000307.html">[Mageia-marketing] R: Re: Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>marcello.anni at alice.it
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000308.html">[Mageia-marketing] beta2 blog note
+</A><A NAME="308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000309.html">[Mageia-marketing] beta2 blog note
+</A><A NAME="309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000310.html">[Mageia-marketing] beta2 blog note
+</A><A NAME="310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000311.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000312.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000313.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000314.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000315.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000316.html">[Mageia-marketing] Interview for a magazine
+</A><A NAME="316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000317.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000318.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000319.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000320.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000321.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000322.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000323.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000324.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000325.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000326.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000327.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000328.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000329.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000360.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="360">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000330.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Apr 30 21:04:35 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri May 20 11:46:47 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>April 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Apr 1 18:45:30 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Apr 30 21:04:35 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 125<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000312.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000313.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000314.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000315.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000323.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000325.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000326.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000281.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000308.html">[Mageia-marketing] beta2 blog note
+</A><A NAME="308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000309.html">[Mageia-marketing] beta2 blog note
+</A><A NAME="309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000310.html">[Mageia-marketing] beta2 blog note
+</A><A NAME="310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000279.html">[Mageia-marketing] community representation / 3 ideas
+</A><A NAME="279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000284.html">[Mageia-marketing] community representation / 3 ideas
+</A><A NAME="284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000287.html">[Mageia-marketing] community representation / 3 ideas
+</A><A NAME="287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000316.html">[Mageia-marketing] Interview for a magazine
+</A><A NAME="316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000289.html">[Mageia-marketing] IRC Meeting today
+</A><A NAME="289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000295.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000311.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000317.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000271.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin, Mageia/MandrivaUser.de stand
+</A><A NAME="271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000274.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin, Mageia/MandrivaUser.de stand
+</A><A NAME="274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000330.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000280.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000288.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000291.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000292.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000282.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000290.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000293.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000327.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000328.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000329.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000360.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="360">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000207.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="207">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000208.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000264.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13; installation of Mageia
+</A><A NAME="264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000267.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13; installation of Mageia
+</A><A NAME="267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000272.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 15
+</A><A NAME="272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000273.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 15
+</A><A NAME="273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000277.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17
+</A><A NAME="277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000278.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17
+</A><A NAME="278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000256.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4; translating into dutch
+</A><A NAME="256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000257.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4; translating into dutch
+</A><A NAME="257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000275.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000276.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000285.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000286.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000294.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000209.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000210.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000211.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000212.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000213.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000214.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000215.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000216.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000217.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000218.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000219.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000220.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000221.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000222.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000223.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000224.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000225.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000226.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000227.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000228.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000229.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000230.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000231.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000232.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000233.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000234.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000235.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000236.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000239.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000240.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000241.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000242.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000243.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000244.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000245.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000246.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000247.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000248.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000249.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000250.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000251.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000252.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000253.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000254.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000255.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000307.html">[Mageia-marketing] R: Re: Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>marcello.anni at alice.it
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000237.html">[Mageia-marketing] repost - original was too big for a marketing list???
+</A><A NAME="237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000238.html">[Mageia-marketing] repost - original was too big for a marketing list???
+</A><A NAME="238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000283.html">[Mageia-marketing] Sanbox is ready
+</A><A NAME="283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000298.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000299.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000300.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000302.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000304.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000305.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000306.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000318.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000319.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000320.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000321.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000322.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000324.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000258.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000259.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000260.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000261.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000262.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000263.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000265.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000266.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000268.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000269.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000270.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000296.html">[Mageia-marketing] WebWorkersCamp presentation post-summary
+</A><A NAME="296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000301.html">[Mageia-marketing] WebWorkersCamp presentation post-summary
+</A><A NAME="301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000303.html">[Mageia-marketing] WebWorkersCamp presentation post-summary
+</A><A NAME="303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Apr 30 21:04:35 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri May 20 11:46:47 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
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+ <title>The Mageia-marketing April 2011 Archive by thread</title>
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+ <h1>April 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Apr 1 18:45:30 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Apr 30 21:04:35 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 125<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01301676330- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000207.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="207">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01301676330-01301679790- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000208.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01301947703- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000209.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01301947703-01301964362- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000210.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01301947703-01301964362-01301966828- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000211.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01301947703-01301964362-01301978473- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000212.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301978473-01301991091- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000215.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01301947703-01301964362-01301980140- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000213.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301980140-01301991018- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000214.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000216.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000217.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000218.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000219.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000220.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302025839- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000221.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000222.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000223.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000224.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302030328- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000225.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302030328-01302033521- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000226.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302030328-01302033521-01302035938- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000227.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302030328-01302033521-01302035938-01302037366- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000228.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302030328-01302033521-01302035938-01302038800- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000229.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302030328-01302033521-01302035938-01302041759- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000230.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302030328-01302033521-01302035938-01302043675- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000231.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000233.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302082598- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000234.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302082598-01302084224- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000235.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302082598-01302084224-01302090140- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000239.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302082598-01302084770- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000236.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302082598-01302084770-01302092799- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000243.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302082598-01302084770-01302092799-01302096730- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000247.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302082598-01302084770-01302092799-01302096730-01302097847- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000252.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302082598-01302084770-01302092799-01302096730-01302098681- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000254.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302082598-01302084770-01302092799-01302096730-01302098681-01302102061- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000255.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302091768- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000241.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302091768-01302092708- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000242.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302091768-01302092708-01302094535- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000245.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302091768-01302092708-01302094535-01302096892- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000248.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302091768-01302092708-01302094535-01302096892-01302097325- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000249.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302091768-01302092708-01302094535-01302096892-01302097325-01302098412- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000253.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302091768-01302092708-01302094535-01302096892-01302097371- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000250.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302091768-01302092708-01302094535-01302096892-01302097504- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000251.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302027121-01302027425-01302077618-01302091768-01302095429- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000246.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302075442- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000232.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302075442-01302091231- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000240.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301947703-01301964362-01301999356-01301999707-01301999976-01302001133-01302023668-01302026104-01302075442-01302091231-01302093048- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000244.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release
+</A><A NAME="244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302089400- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000237.html">[Mageia-marketing] repost - original was too big for a marketing list???
+</A><A NAME="237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302089400-01302089827- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000238.html">[Mageia-marketing] repost - original was too big for a marketing list???
+</A><A NAME="238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302111152- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000256.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4; translating into dutch
+</A><A NAME="256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302111152-01302111423- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000257.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4; translating into dutch
+</A><A NAME="257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302169789- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000258.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302169789-01302170440- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000259.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302169789-01302170440-01302170599- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000260.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01302169789-01302170440-01302170599-01302171318- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000261.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01302169789-01302170440-01302170599-01302171318-01302173405- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000262.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01302169789-01302170440-01302170599-01302171318-01302173405-01302173664- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000263.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01302169789-01302170440-01302170599-01302217004- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000266.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01302169789-01302170440-01302170599-01302217004-01302248623- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000268.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01302169789-01302170440-01302170599-01302217004-01302248623-01302251545- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000269.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01302169789-01302170440-01302170599-01302217004-01302248623-01302251545-01302251627- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000270.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01302169789-01302215954- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000265.html">[Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog
+</A><A NAME="265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302180679- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000264.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13; installation of Mageia
+</A><A NAME="264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302180679-01302217542- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000267.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13; installation of Mageia
+</A><A NAME="267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302281663- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000271.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin, Mageia/MandrivaUser.de stand
+</A><A NAME="271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302281663-01302286852- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000274.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin, Mageia/MandrivaUser.de stand
+</A><A NAME="274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302282799- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000272.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 15
+</A><A NAME="272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302282799-01302283373- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000273.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 15
+</A><A NAME="273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302509531- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000275.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302509531-01302525121- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000276.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302509531-01302525121-01302728980- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000285.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01302509531-01302525121-01302728980-01302758842- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000286.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01302509531-01302525121-01302728980-01303037874- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000294.html">[Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono
+</A><A NAME="294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302543743- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000277.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17
+</A><A NAME="277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302543743-01302546512- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000278.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17
+</A><A NAME="278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302702258- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000279.html">[Mageia-marketing] community representation / 3 ideas
+</A><A NAME="279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302702258-01302724560- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000284.html">[Mageia-marketing] community representation / 3 ideas
+</A><A NAME="284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302702258-01302724560-01302783636- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000287.html">[Mageia-marketing] community representation / 3 ideas
+</A><A NAME="287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302719598- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000280.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302719598-01302720317- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000281.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01302719598-01302723346- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000282.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302719598-01302723346-01302881808- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000292.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302724239- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000283.html">[Mageia-marketing] Sanbox is ready
+</A><A NAME="283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01302790090- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000288.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302790090-01302801446- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000290.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302790090-01302801446-01302881309- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000291.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01302790090-01302801446-01302881309-01302886364- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000293.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia marketing plan is on the way, proposals and team reports needed
+</A><A NAME="293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302791835- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000289.html">[Mageia-marketing] IRC Meeting today
+</A><A NAME="289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01303130584- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000295.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01303130584-01303913276- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000311.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01303130584-01303913276-01303930071- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000317.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01303135546- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000296.html">[Mageia-marketing] WebWorkersCamp presentation post-summary
+</A><A NAME="296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01303135546-01303163559- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000301.html">[Mageia-marketing] WebWorkersCamp presentation post-summary
+</A><A NAME="301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01303135546-01303163559-01303164466- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000303.html">[Mageia-marketing] WebWorkersCamp presentation post-summary
+</A><A NAME="303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01303135803- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000297.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01303135803-01303141161- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000298.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01303135803-01303141161-01303141927- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000299.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01303135803-01303141161-01303141927-01303145902- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000300.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01303135803-01303164054- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000302.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01303135803-01303164054-01303164690- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000304.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01303135803-01303164054-01303167087- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000305.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01303135803-01303164054-01303167087-01303200426- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000306.html">[Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01303201136- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000307.html">[Mageia-marketing] R: Re: Showcasing technology and people
+</A><A NAME="307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>marcello.anni at alice.it
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01303832752- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000308.html">[Mageia-marketing] beta2 blog note
+</A><A NAME="308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01303832752-01303844734- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000309.html">[Mageia-marketing] beta2 blog note
+</A><A NAME="309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01303832752-01303844734-01303846594- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000310.html">[Mageia-marketing] beta2 blog note
+</A><A NAME="310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01303914773- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000312.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01303914773-01303917845- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000313.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01303914773-01303917845-01304015683- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000323.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01303914773-01303925988- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000314.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01303914773-01304020459- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000325.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01303914773-01304020459-01304027010- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000326.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01303928454- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000315.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01303929143- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000316.html">[Mageia-marketing] Interview for a magazine
+</A><A NAME="316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01303931088- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000318.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01303931088-01303931270- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000319.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01303931088-01303938789- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000320.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01303931088-01303938789-01304001209- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000321.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01303931088-01303938789-01304001209-01304015557- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000322.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01303931088-01303938789-01304001209-01304015557-01304018261- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000324.html">[Mageia-marketing] Stuff to be done
+</A><A NAME="324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01304028026- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000327.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01304028026-01304061064- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000328.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01304028026-01304061064-01304061350- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000329.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01304028026-01304061064-01304097940- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000360.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="360">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01304190275- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000330.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Apr 30 21:04:35 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri May 20 11:46:47 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+We need to make a list of the websites where we can publish news of
+Alpha 2's release.
+
+I've made a space in the sandbox on the Wiki - could everyone please
+head over there and start filling things in?
+
+G+. Facebook, Diaspora and Twitter we already do (although, if everyone
+follows, you can re-share the posts and make them go further).
+
+We're thinking about Distrowatch, LWN, any IT news sites - look through
+your bookmarks and get the list going!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+there :).
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+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+
+sorry for the late notice, but I won't be able to make the meeting
+tonight (19:00 UTC, in case you forgot).
+
+Topics needing to be covered:
+
+#1 welcome to Seb, our newest member (hi seb!)
+
+#2 list of websites/sites for publicising Alpha 2 - there's a place in
+the Sandbox on the wiki to add them
+
+#3 stuff for the Events Box - check out the wiki page about it and see
+what we should put on the list
+
+Dale was doing a proposal - if that's ready to go, you could all take
+a look at it, maybe put it up on the wiki so we can let the council
+know to take a look at it.
+
+ - and anything else you can think of!
+
+Anyone who doesn't have their Mageia identity set up needs to do it,
+before you can start editing the wiki.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+
+Because I've got major family commitments, I won't be able to chair
+meetings this week or next - or probably even attend them, although
+I'll read the logs. If there are a few of you on irc together at
+meeting time, use meetbot (#startmeeting is a good place to begin!) and
+don't forget to use #info and #action tags.
+
+We've got some tasks up on the Marcom page and the sandbox; these are
+good topics for meetings, and it would be very good to get working on
+these. I'll check in as much as I can - not much! - but I'm hoping our
+team can cope with only one person gone...
+
+Cheers, and Season's greetings!
+
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+ <B>Joita Dan-Marian</B>
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+Hi,
+
+
+
+ I would like to have a mageia banner on my website, it can be
+ written in English. I can translate it in Romanian, i am a member of
+ the translation team.
+
+ www.famitemele.ro,
+ some students (I am no longer a student) that try to help education
+ grow (we do have a problem, they want us to solve their homework
+ completely), I can be contacted for this because I started the page,
+ Romanian (and I will translate the framework to English)
+
+
+
+ Someone suggested I should add a 'powered by Mageia' but text is not
+ so eye catching.
+
+ --
+
+With respect,
+Dan-Marian, Joi&#355;a.
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+</A><A NAME="490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000493.html">[Mageia-marketing] tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+</A><A NAME="494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000491.html">[Mageia-marketing] I would like to join the Mageia marketing team
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+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<LI><A HREF="000491.html">[Mageia-marketing] I would like to join the Mageia marketing team
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+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<LI><A HREF="000492.html">[Mageia-marketing] I would like to join the Mageia marketing team
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+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<LI><A HREF="000493.html">[Mageia-marketing] tonight's meeting
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000927.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageia on my website
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+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<LI><A HREF="000492.html">[Mageia-marketing] I would like to join the Mageia marketing team
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+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<LI><A HREF="000927.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageia on my website
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+<I>Joita Dan-Marian
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+<LI><A HREF="000494.html">[Mageia-marketing] Next 2 meetings
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000493.html">[Mageia-marketing] tonight's meeting
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000927.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageia on my website
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+<I>Joita Dan-Marian
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Fellows,
+
+work on the logo is moving further, our first alpha release is coming
+soon and we will need soon a colour scheme for the project as a whole
+(distribution theme, website), and for the logo declination.
+
+So it ought to be multiple in complexity:
+ * because the logo will rely on two, or at most three different
+colours (and depending on the context, it will use shades);
+ * the website may use a few more;
+ * distribution theme may use a few more as well.
+
+So, defining and selecting the story behind these colours may help.
+
+You can have a look on the last artwork meetings notes, you will get a
+smell of what's brewing:
+ * <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-02-02-18.06.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-02-02-18.06.html</A>
+ * <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-01-26-18.08.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-01-26-18.08.html</A>
+
+To fuel your thoughts, among other things, you may check (for what it's worth):
+ * <A HREF="http://ooogear.co.nz/mageiawiki/index.php?title=CoreValues">http://ooogear.co.nz/mageiawiki/index.php?title=CoreValues</A>
+ * <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_symbolism">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_symbolism</A>
+ * <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_psychology">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_psychology</A>
+ * <A HREF="http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/colours-in-cultures/">http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/colours-in-cultures/</A>
+ * <A HREF="http://www.colourlovers.com/">http://www.colourlovers.com/</A>
+ * <A HREF="http://kuler.adobe.com/">http://kuler.adobe.com/</A>
+
+There is at least one important basic colour scheme to exclude: the
+blue/orange/yellow one that is tied to Mandriva. And of course, there
+are others tied somehow to other Linux projects.
+
+Thanks a lot for your participation! and do not hesitate to share your
+thoughts in and out this list!
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Patricia,
+
+thanks for your reply.
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+On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 20:57, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Still not very complete &quot;Org focus&quot; part.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a pretty important part - it's the answer to the question
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;why would I join this distro and not another one?&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> This is the stuff that got all of *this* team excited, back when.
+</I>&gt;<i> These values are why we're here, and willing to turn our hands to
+</I>&gt;<i> things. The inclusive stuff. It kind of takes a back seat to the
+</I>&gt;<i> technical stuff, most of the time, but a technical person can be
+</I>&gt;<i> technical in *any* distro - there has to be something that sets us
+</I>&gt;<i> apart
+</I>
+Yes! Thanks for reminding this out. I'll merge with my notes and
+include this, expect an update (with draft slides hopefully) sometimes
+tomorrow afternoon.
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+thanks a lot for your edits! :-)
+
+On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 22:53, Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I'm still able to read in French
+</I>
+;)
+
+&gt;<i> Being a member of the sysadmin team myself, I added content in the
+</I>&gt;<i> *sysadmin* area of the notes
+</I>
+Cool, thanks!
+
+&gt;<i> Okay, getting back to the Open Source convention in Mexico next month -
+</I>&gt;<i> This &#160;should serve really well as a basic template for the speaker there
+</I>&gt;<i> too, although we should bear in mind that he has an entire hour to make
+</I>&gt;<i> his presentation, perhaps 50 minutes, after allowing for a 10min Q&amp;A.
+</I>
+Actually, I think we have too much material for a two 30 minutes
+talks. But we can reduce/focus the message.
+
+&gt;<i> Is there a link to the slide show presentations, etc., that you
+</I>&gt;<i> mentioned? We should probably get to work on making sure that it is
+</I>&gt;<i> localized for the primary language of the respective audience a speaker
+</I>&gt;<i> will encounter at future engagements.
+</I>
+Yep. Will both my draft tomorrow after having updated the script (odp format).
+
+Thanks again.
+
+Cheers!
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+On 02/02/2011 02:14 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Patricia,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> thanks for your reply.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 20:57, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Still not very complete &quot;Org focus&quot; part.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is a pretty important part - it's the answer to the question
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;why would I join this distro and not another one?&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is the stuff that got all of *this* team excited, back when.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> These values are why we're here, and willing to turn our hands to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> things. The inclusive stuff. It kind of takes a back seat to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> technical stuff, most of the time, but a technical person can be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> technical in *any* distro - there has to be something that sets us
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> apart
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes! Thanks for reminding this out. I'll merge with my notes and
+</I>&gt;<i> include this, expect an update (with draft slides hopefully) sometimes
+</I>&gt;<i> tomorrow afternoon.
+</I>
+I concur with this, and as a major geekster myself, admit that this is
+not only something that completely escaped me, but the thing that makes
+the difference in the marketplace.
+
+Patricia's absolutely right. I can be a geek w/any distro, but we're
+seeking adoption by the end users and how do we make it most attractive
+for them?
+
+Great point!
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Here's a good resource:
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+<A HREF="http://colorschemedesigner.com/">http://colorschemedesigner.com/</A>
+
+Three colours max, or more? If we're looking at full artwork
+including wallpapers and icons, maybe we need sets of 2, 3, 4, 5
+colours?
+
+We could pick a few pallettes, and see what the Artwork Team thinks
+about them. For instance:
+
+Spring pallette: pale green, creamy yellow, rose pink and a touch of
+blue;
+
+Art deco pallette: black, white, pink, grey;
+
+... and so on.
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+Cheers!
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+<PRE>Hi,
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+so here is an update (working on slides separately, will post in a few
+minutes): <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=docs:fosdem2011">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=docs:fosdem2011</A>
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+I may not have put all the values in sight as you meant those, so
+please point out what you think is missing from your point of view.
+
+I need some help to sort out and share the load between the common
+trunk of the presentation (tells a lot of things) and the
+&quot;organisational focus&quot; part at the end (could have more tracks or
+borrow them from the common trunk, not sure).
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+<PRE>Le 31/01/2011 18:19, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>
+Hi All
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+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=docs:fosdem2011">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=docs:fosdem2011</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Still mix of English/French.
+</I>
+I tried to translate the french parts and I made some little modifications.
+
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+&gt;<i> Romain
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 19:19, DjeZAeL &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">djezael at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I am worried that some people will be awaiting for Mageia and will be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; disappointed (about the way they could use the distribution) because they
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; were told that they would be able to try it quickly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, having discussed on IRC with DjeZAel further about this, it seems
+</I>&gt;<i> some people advertise the release to be available (because they
+</I>&gt;<i> believe it to be and they don't check) and to be usable for everyone
+</I>&gt;<i> (for the same reasons of not caring enough to check what's happening).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's life so we have to prepare &amp; square our message to start to
+</I>&gt;<i> talk about the release before it happens.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So here is the situation at this very time:
+</I>&gt;<i> * we won't release an ISO by January; we are late, although we are
+</I>&gt;<i> really reaching the point to be able to build an ISO;
+</I>&gt;<i> * that we *can* build and release an ISO does not mean that it is for
+</I>&gt;<i> everyone to use; again, this first alpha will be of no interest for
+</I>&gt;<i> most people outside of the project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's sync with founders this evening about this (or tomorrow) as to
+</I>&gt;<i> post on -discuss, Twitter and our blog (at least) a statement about
+</I>&gt;<i> this:
+</I>&gt;<i> * don't promise what you don't know about this release;
+</I>&gt;<i> * do not market this release outside of the project; it will be of no
+</I>&gt;<i> interest outside of the project; it will be announced nonetheless, but
+</I>&gt;<i> not as a general, usable release;
+</I>&gt;<i> * do not reclaim for download mirrors when there is not even a
+</I>&gt;<i> release announced; be consistent;
+</I>&gt;<i> * please be very careful about the release message as it impacts the
+</I>project.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Advice?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>yes : ) the ancient wise says &quot;if you want a thing to be remembered, put it on
+its name&quot; : ) (copyright by Marcello Anni 2011)
+
+why don't we call it &quot;Ugly and unuseful&quot; or &quot;Don't try it&quot; or something
+similar? 99% of such an issue will be resolved : )
+&gt;<i> Cheers (and thanks DjeZAel for reporting this)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Fellows,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> work on the logo is moving further, our first alpha release is coming
+</I>&gt;<i> soon and we will need soon a colour scheme for the project as a whole
+</I>&gt;<i> (distribution theme, website), and for the logo declination.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So it ought to be multiple in complexity:
+</I>&gt;<i> * because the logo will rely on two, or at most three different
+</I>&gt;<i> colours (and depending on the context, it will use shades);
+</I>&gt;<i> * the website may use a few more;
+</I>&gt;<i> * distribution theme may use a few more as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, defining and selecting the story behind these colours may help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can have a look on the last artwork meetings notes, you will get a
+</I>&gt;<i> smell of what's brewing:
+</I>&gt;<i> * <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-</A>
+</I>artwork.2011-02-02-18.06.html
+&gt;<i> * <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-</A>
+</I>artwork.2011-01-26-18.08.html
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To fuel your thoughts, among other things, you may check (for what it's
+</I>worth):
+&gt;<i> * <A HREF="http://ooogear.co.nz/mageiawiki/index.php?title=CoreValues">http://ooogear.co.nz/mageiawiki/index.php?title=CoreValues</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> * <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_symbolism">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_symbolism</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> * <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_psychology">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_psychology</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> * <A HREF="http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/colours-in-cultures/">http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/colours-in-cultures/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> * <A HREF="http://www.colourlovers.com/">http://www.colourlovers.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> * <A HREF="http://kuler.adobe.com/">http://kuler.adobe.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is at least one important basic colour scheme to exclude: the
+</I>&gt;<i> blue/orange/yellow one that is tied to Mandriva. And of course, there
+</I>&gt;<i> are others tied somehow to other Linux projects.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks a lot for your participation! and do not hesitate to share your
+</I>&gt;<i> thoughts in and out this list!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+i've tried something but nothing interesting... why don't we let this work to
+the artwork team and the marketing team chooses the best among the various
+proposals (naturally using our criteria and not doing only a subjective work :
+ )?
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 19:19, DjeZAeL &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">djezael at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I am worried that some people will be awaiting for Mageia and will be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; disappointed (about the way they could use the distribution) because they
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; were told that they would be able to try it quickly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, having discussed on IRC with DjeZAel further about this, it seems
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some people advertise the release to be available (because they
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> believe it to be and they don't check) and to be usable for everyone
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (for the same reasons of not caring enough to check what's happening).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's life so we have to prepare &amp; square our message to start to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> talk about the release before it happens.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So here is the situation at this very time:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* we won't release an ISO by January; we are late, although we are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> really reaching the point to be able to build an ISO;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* that we *can* build and release an ISO does not mean that it is for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> everyone to use; again, this first alpha will be of no interest for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> most people outside of the project.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Let's sync with founders this evening about this (or tomorrow) as to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> post on -discuss, Twitter and our blog (at least) a statement about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* don't promise what you don't know about this release;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* do not market this release outside of the project; it will be of no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> interest outside of the project; it will be announced nonetheless, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not as a general, usable release;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* do not reclaim for download mirrors when there is not even a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release announced; be consistent;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* please be very careful about the release message as it impacts the
+</I>&gt;<i> project.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Advice?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> yes : ) the ancient wise says &quot;if you want a thing to be remembered, put it on
+</I>&gt;<i> its name&quot; : ) (copyright by Marcello Anni 2011)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> why don't we call it &quot;Ugly and unuseful&quot; or &quot;Don't try it&quot; or something
+</I>&gt;<i> similar? 99% of such an issue will be resolved : )
+</I>
+Because we want to follow that famous quote by Marcello Anni :) We do
+not want the Beta 1 to be remembered as ugly or unuseful.
+
+Au contraire it is a good proof of what has been done so far, it is a
+good base to build on, and it is good enough to motivate contributors
+to contribute. Calling it ugly or unuseful sends a negative signal,
+rather demotivating - who wants to work on something ugly (except
+plastic surgeons of course)?
+
+But I agree in one point - it may be good to find a more meaningful
+name than &quot;Beta 1&quot;.
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+</I>&gt;<i> To fuel your thoughts, among other things, you may check (for what it's worth):
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;* <A HREF="http://ooogear.co.nz/mageiawiki/index.php?title=CoreValues">http://ooogear.co.nz/mageiawiki/index.php?title=CoreValues</A>
+</I>
+Why don't we use the official core values on the Mageia website
+(although they are almost identical)?
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/about/values/">http://mageia.org/en/about/values/</A>
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+--
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+<PRE>2011/2/3 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Here's a good resource:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colorschemedesigner.com/">http://colorschemedesigner.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Three colours max, or more? If we're looking at full artwork
+</I>&gt;<i> including wallpapers and icons, maybe we need sets of 2, 3, 4, 5
+</I>&gt;<i> colours?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We could pick a few pallettes, and see what the Artwork Team thinks
+</I>&gt;<i> about them. For instance:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Spring pallette: pale green, creamy yellow, rose pink and a touch of
+</I>&gt;<i> blue;
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Art deco pallette: black, white, pink, grey;
+</I>
+Sorry, nothing against individual taste but pink is totally out of the
+question. Mageia is neither Barbie Linux nor inspired by Hannah
+Montana ( <A HREF="http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/fluffy/">http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/fluffy/</A> )
+
+BTW: Pink was never a real &quot;art deco&quot; color.
+
+--
+wobo
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+On 02/08/2011 04:00 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
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+&gt;<i> ...it may be good to find a more meaningful
+</I>&gt;<i> name than &quot;Beta 1&quot;.
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+&gt;<i> 2011/2/8 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> yes : ) the ancient wise says &quot;if you want a thing to be remembered, put it on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> its name&quot; : ) (copyright by Marcello Anni 2011)
+</I>
+Good point.
+
+&gt;<i> But I agree in one point - it may be good to find a more meaningful
+</I>&gt;<i> name than &quot;Beta 1&quot;.
+</I>
+At this point, it is an _alpha_. Beta releases are for April. :)
+
+&quot;Mageia, factory alpha 1&quot; would be a short name (it's already long
+enough like that) that would remind the next recommandations: it is
+the first alpha ISO to be released out of our build-system and as
+such, well... a factory barely releases its first prototype to have it
+considered other than a self-testing item. So, don't expect... yada
+yada.
+
+If people can't understand that, well, really, fine. At some point,
+we're not going to twist words because we can't assume to educate
+people about how a technical product building process works (and
+that's one of the goals of the project).
+
+So further than the name, it's the discourse accompanying the release
+that will matter at least as much, if not more, as the released
+product itself.
+
+So far, it looks like the regular updates, technical and
+non-technical, on the blog, have been wonderfully received. So it's a
+good sign to use this too.
+
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i> 2011/2/2 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To fuel your thoughts, among other things, you may check (for what it's worth):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* <A HREF="http://ooogear.co.nz/mageiawiki/index.php?title=CoreValues">http://ooogear.co.nz/mageiawiki/index.php?title=CoreValues</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why don't we use the official core values on the Mageia website
+</I>&gt;<i> (although they are almost identical)?
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/about/values/">http://mageia.org/en/about/values/</A>
+</I>
+Yes, thanks for reminding that. Actually, I meant the whole lot of
+resources on this wiki. :-) (that was/is used to forge the actual
+values page).
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+<PRE>On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 01:09, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/2/3 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here's a good resource:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colorschemedesigner.com/">http://colorschemedesigner.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Three colours max, or more? If we're looking at full artwork
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> including wallpapers and icons, maybe we need sets of 2, 3, 4, 5
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> colours?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We could pick a few pallettes, and see what the Artwork Team thinks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> about them. For instance:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Spring pallette: pale green, creamy yellow, rose pink and a touch of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> blue;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Art deco pallette: black, white, pink, grey;
+</I>
+Patricia, could you provide a link to a page (on above website or
+other) to have a visual clue of the pallette?
+
+And could you (yes, it falls on you! :-p) post on -discuss about this
+pallette research (and that more research will be done in -artwork and
+that we may as well ask to an outside designer in last resort)? Or do
+you think it will gather too many insiders to be able to sort this
+out?
+
+&gt;<i> Sorry, nothing against individual taste but pink is totally out of the
+</I>&gt;<i> question.
+</I>
+:<i>D Depends how you use it (dominant colour or not).
+</I>
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/fluffy/">http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/fluffy/</A>
+</I>
+That is... interesting (/me looking for new eyes).
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>2011/2/9 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 01:00, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/2/8 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> yes : ) the ancient wise says &quot;if you want a thing to be remembered, put it on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> its name&quot; : ) (copyright by Marcello Anni 2011)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good point.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But I agree in one point - it may be good to find a more meaningful
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> name than &quot;Beta 1&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At this point, it is an _alpha_. Beta releases are for April. :)
+</I>
+Sorry, typo! :)
+
+&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia, factory alpha 1&quot; would be a short name (it's already long
+</I>&gt;<i> enough like that) that would remind the next recommandations: it is
+</I>&gt;<i> the first alpha ISO to be released out of our build-system and as
+</I>&gt;<i> such, well... a factory barely releases its first prototype to have it
+</I>&gt;<i> considered other than a self-testing item. So, don't expect... yada
+</I>&gt;<i> yada.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If people can't understand that, well, really, fine. At some point,
+</I>&gt;<i> we're not going to twist words because we can't assume to educate
+</I>&gt;<i> people about how a technical product building process works (and
+</I>&gt;<i> that's one of the goals of the project).
+</I>
+Agreed.
+
+&gt;<i> So further than the name, it's the discourse accompanying the release
+</I>&gt;<i> that will matter at least as much, if not more, as the released
+</I>&gt;<i> product itself.
+</I>
+Yes, definitely.
+
+&gt;<i> So far, it looks like the regular updates, technical and
+</I>&gt;<i> non-technical, on the blog, have been wonderfully received. So it's a
+</I>&gt;<i> good sign to use this too.
+</I>
+Yes. But of course the first visible result is something else than
+reports. Lots of users are waiting and you can read such things like
+&quot;I can't wait and will migrate from Mandriva to Mageia next week!&quot; on
+a daily basis in the forums.
+
+All we can do each time we spot such a sentence is to shout at the top
+of our lungs: &quot;DON'T!&quot; :)
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And could you (yes, it falls on you! :-p) post on -discuss about this
+</I>&gt;<i> pallette research (and that more research will be done in -artwork and
+</I>&gt;<i> that we may as well ask to an outside designer in last resort)? Or do
+</I>&gt;<i> you think it will gather too many insiders to be able to sort this
+</I>&gt;<i> out?
+</I>
+This would obviously start a tidal wave like that of the logo
+suggestions before even the guidelines were defined :)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/fluffy/">http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/fluffy/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That is... interesting (/me looking for new eyes).
+</I>
+It caused some raised eye brows when it was presented at Linuxtag 2010 :)
+
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+&gt;<i> 2011/2/9 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And could you (yes, it falls on you! :-p) post on -discuss about this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> pallette research (and that more research will be done in -artwork and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that we may as well ask to an outside designer in last resort)? Or do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you think it will gather too many insiders to be able to sort this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> out?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This would obviously start a tidal wave like that of the logo
+</I>&gt;<i> suggestions before even the guidelines were defined :)
+</I>
+Yep... so let's keep it in artwork/marcom (and start with a
+minimalist, upgradable one if needed). Alex preliminary work on the
+distribution artwork may be a start for that, I guess.
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/fluffy/">http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/fluffy/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That is... interesting (/me looking for new eyes).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It caused some raised eye brows when it was presented at Linuxtag 2010 :)
+</I>
+:<i>D
+</I>
+Romain
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+I was wondering if any of you was interested in holding a meeting
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+I think we can talk about :
+- general feedback from FOSDEM (what people thought of the mageia
+project and what had to be explained)
+- ad slides text during install (this is a crossover issue between the
+artwork and marcom team)
+- next communications actions to take from now until the alpha release.
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+Or maybe we can have these conversations by e-mail, depending on the
+number of attendees...
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+&gt;<i> Hello all !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was wondering if any of you was interested in holding a meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> thursday or friday at 4 or 5 pm UTC ?
+</I>
+Ok for me.
+
+&gt;<i> I think we can talk about :
+</I>&gt;<i> - general feedback from FOSDEM (what people thought of the mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> project and what had to be explained)
+</I>
+&gt;<i>From my POV:
+</I> - very positive feedback
+ - lessons from how to prepare slides for presentations
+ - people ask for a pitch for the project (which could be &quot;we don&quot;t
+have a pitch&quot;; but they want one)
+ - we can be way more specific in presentation details (technical &amp;
+org topics abound)
+
+&gt;<i> - ad slides text during install (this is a crossover issue between the
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork and marcom team)
+</I>
+See other thread.
+
+&gt;<i> - next communications actions to take from now until the alpha release.
+</I>
+A post from the board about the Fosdem events and general assembly is
+underway. There was an etherpad used for the draft but I believe it's
+been raised to the blog (Dams and wobo are on it IIRC).
+
+As for the alpha release, there's a few bits to iron out for the
+download/release pages:
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-web/2011/mageia-web.2011-02-09-14.09.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-web/2011/mageia-web.2011-02-09-14.09.html</A>
+(see last topic). Dams and obgr are going to implement it on the www
+side. Stormi on the wiki side. You may get in sync with them.
+
+&gt;<i> Or maybe we can have these conversations by e-mail, depending on the
+</I>&gt;<i> number of attendees...
+</I>
+Maybe better.
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2011/2/9 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 13:44, C&#233;line Harrand &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">celine.harrand at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - next communications actions to take from now until the alpha release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A post from the board about the Fosdem events and general assembly is
+</I>&gt;<i> underway. There was an etherpad used for the draft but I believe it's
+</I>&gt;<i> been raised to the blog (Dams and wobo are on it IIRC).
+</I>
+Published 10 minutes ago :)
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+&gt;<i> Maybe better.
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+I'm following this list but I can also come to a meeting (Thursday is
+fine with me)
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+&gt;<i> I was wondering if any of you was interested in holding a meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> thursday or friday at 4 or 5 pm UTC ?
+</I>
+Do my best - not making it to many meetings lately, sorry!
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+If it&#180;s decided to have one, please can someone put a notice on the
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hello all !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was wondering if any of you was interested in holding a meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> thursday or friday at 4 or 5 pm UTC ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>[cut]
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Leeloo
+</I>
+what about at 7 UTC? i would like to attend this meeting...
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> - people ask for a pitch for the project (which could be &quot;we don&quot;t
+</I>&gt;<i> have a pitch&quot;; but they want one)
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+what is a pitch? i searched the term but i can't understand its meaning...
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+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; 2011/2/8 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; yes : ) the ancient wise says &quot;if you want a thing to be remembered, put
+</I>it on
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; its name&quot; : ) (copyright by Marcello Anni 2011)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good point.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But I agree in one point - it may be good to find a more meaningful
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; name than &quot;Beta 1&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At this point, it is an _alpha_. Beta releases are for April. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia, factory alpha 1&quot; would be a short name (it's already long
+</I>&gt;<i> enough like that) that would remind the next recommandations: it is
+</I>&gt;<i> the first alpha ISO to be released out of our build-system and as
+</I>&gt;<i> such, well... a factory barely releases its first prototype to have it
+</I>&gt;<i> considered other than a self-testing item. So, don't expect... yada
+</I>&gt;<i> yada.
+</I>
+i like Mageia Factory Alpha (if there is only one why should we use 1?). what
+about proposing it to the next mageia founders meeting?
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If people can't understand that, well, really, fine. At some point,
+</I>&gt;<i> we're not going to twist words because we can't assume to educate
+</I>&gt;<i> people about how a technical product building process works (and
+</I>&gt;<i> that's one of the goals of the project).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So further than the name, it's the discourse accompanying the release
+</I>&gt;<i> that will matter at least as much, if not more, as the released
+</I>&gt;<i> product itself.
+</I>
+sure, but remember that in marketing everything is important, also the name.
+obviously we must keep attention to everything related to the release (so this
+time overall warning advertise)
+
+&gt;<i> So far, it looks like the regular updates, technical and
+</I>&gt;<i> non-technical, on the blog, have been wonderfully received. So it's a
+</I>&gt;<i> good sign to use this too.
+</I>
+can you tell how many visits receive daily the english blog (and also the
+others if possible?)
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
+
+PS= do we have a few artwork active members or is it only an impression of
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Hello all !
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was wondering if any of you was interested in holding a meeting
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thursday or friday at 4 or 5 pm UTC ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>[cut]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Leeloo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> what about at 7 UTC? i would like to attend this meeting...
+</I>
+I can't come on Fridays.
+Thursday 18:30 UTC is i18n meeting time. A meeting where I would like
+to welcome you, Marcello, because we also need an Italian team there
+:<i>)
+</I>
+--
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i like Mageia Factory Alpha (if there is only one why should we use 1?). what
+</I>&gt;<i> about proposing it to the next mageia founders meeting?
+</I>
+There will be 2 Alphas - see
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_1_specifications">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_1_specifications</A>
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://colorschemedesigner.com/">http://colorschemedesigner.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Patricia, could you provide a link to a page (on above website or
+</I>&gt;<i> other) to have a visual clue of the pallette?
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://colorschemedesigner.com/#4832Pw0w0w0w0">http://colorschemedesigner.com/#4832Pw0w0w0w0</A>
+
+or
+
+<A HREF="http://colorschemedesigner.com/#3y40qw0w0w0w0">http://colorschemedesigner.com/#3y40qw0w0w0w0</A>
+
+... just as starters. I think it needs loads of discussion; this is
+just a good resource to help us set up a palette. I&#180;ve put it out on
+the Artwork list, let&#180;s see if Alex comes up with anything.
+
+&gt;<i> And could you (yes, it falls on you! :-p) post on -discuss about this
+</I>&gt;<i> pallette research (and that more research will be done in -artwork and
+</I>&gt;<i> that we may as well ask to an outside designer in last resort)? Or do
+</I>&gt;<i> you think it will gather too many insiders to be able to sort this
+</I>&gt;<i> out?
+</I>
+Sure. Sorry for big gaps - I&#180;m on a work trip at the moment (Istanbul
+and Sharjah), and time&#180;s a bit short. Hopefully I&#180;ll get something up
+there tonight.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Sorry, nothing against individual taste but pink is totally out of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the question.
+</I>
+There&#180;s a LOT of different kinds of pink. And,
+
+&gt;<i> :D Depends how you use it (dominant colour or not).
+</I>
+Yep.
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Patricia Fraser
+On the move
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+Dark Side - approach with caution
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+<PRE>Hi Romain,
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://colorschemedesigner.com/">http://colorschemedesigner.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Patricia, could you provide a link to a page (on above website or
+</I>&gt;<i> other) to have a visual clue of the pallette?
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://colorschemedesigner.com/#4832Pw0w0w0w0">http://colorschemedesigner.com/#4832Pw0w0w0w0</A>
+
+or
+
+<A HREF="http://colorschemedesigner.com/#3y40qw0w0w0w0">http://colorschemedesigner.com/#3y40qw0w0w0w0</A>
+
+... just as starters. I think it needs loads of discussion; this is
+just a good resource to help us set up a palette. I&#180;ve put it out on
+the Artwork list, let&#180;s see if Alex comes up with anything.
+
+&gt;<i> And could you (yes, it falls on you! :-p) post on -discuss about this
+</I>&gt;<i> pallette research (and that more research will be done in -artwork and
+</I>&gt;<i> that we may as well ask to an outside designer in last resort)? Or do
+</I>&gt;<i> you think it will gather too many insiders to be able to sort this
+</I>&gt;<i> out?
+</I>
+Sure. Sorry for big gaps - I&#180;m on a work trip at the moment (Istanbul
+and Sharjah), and time&#180;s a bit short. Hopefully I&#180;ll get something up
+there tonight.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Sorry, nothing against individual taste but pink is totally out of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the question.
+</I>
+There&#180;s a LOT of different kinds of pink. And,
+
+&gt;<i> :D Depends how you use it (dominant colour or not).
+</I>
+Yep.
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Patricia Fraser
+On the move
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+<PRE>On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 22:58, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- people ask for a pitch for the project (which could be &quot;we don&quot;t
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have a pitch&quot;; but they want one)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> what is a pitch? i searched the term but i can't understand its meaning...
+</I>
+A pitch is a quick, small, to the point description/promotion of your
+product or service. It is an expression frequently used in &quot;sales
+pitch&quot;, &quot;elevator pitch&quot; (as in, it has to take you less than 60
+seconds to expose what your product/service/company does to someone
+else: clear, concise, fast, efficient).
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+<PRE>On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 23:08, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 01:00, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So far, it looks like the regular updates, technical and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> non-technical, on the blog, have been wonderfully received. So it's a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> good sign to use this too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> can you tell how many visits receive daily the english blog (and also the
+</I>&gt;<i> others if possible?)
+</I>
+We've got to automate these... and give more access to it directly. In
+the meantime (warning, figures ahead!):
+
+For the English blog:
+ * daily peaks of 1,200 views
+ * weekly between 8,000 and 4,000 on average
+ * monthly views averages at 13,000 (peak at 20k in October)
+
+French:
+ * daily about 200 views (peaks at 300)
+ * weekly about 1,500 views
+ * monthly about 6,000
+
+&gt;<i>From Analytics stats (on www only for now, but we may think it's
+</I>relative on other parts):
+ * 49% of browsers have English in first language,
+ * 16% in French,
+ * 5.5% in German,
+ * 5.3% in Spanish,
+ * 4.2% in Russian,
+ * 3.7% in Italian,
+ * 2.3% in Portuguese,
+ * that makes for ~75%
+
+That does not account from the countries, actually, because, well...
+ * France accounts for 24% of visits
+ * US, 8.9
+ * Germany, 7.4
+ * Italy, 5.9
+ * Spain, 5.2
+ * Russia, 4.6
+ * UK, 3.5
+ * that makes for ~36%
+
+So guess what? likely, browsers language prefs are not yet properly
+configured everywhere and English has it. Anyway, maybe a bit too soon
+to worry about this.
+
+(I will extend these Analytics data fetching to wiki and blogs today,
+note that this is mentioned in the privacy policy draft -
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=privacy_policy#current_situation">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=privacy_policy#current_situation</A>
+and we would discuss that further in a &quot;metrics, figures and lies&quot;
+thread after alpha 1 release - if anyone can remind about this in
+beginning of March?).
+
+&gt;<i> PS= do we have a few artwork active members or is it only an impression of
+</I>&gt;<i> mine? nuhno pinheiro won't contribute anymore?
+</I>
+No idea. I guess he's busy/involved in something else at this time.
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+&gt;<i> I was wondering if any of you was interested in holding a meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> thursday or friday at 4 or 5 pm UTC ?
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+Do my best - not making it to many meetings lately, sorry!
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+If it&#180;s decided to have one, please can someone put a notice on the
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+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://colorschemedesigner.com/">http://colorschemedesigner.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Patricia, could you provide a link to a page (on above website or
+</I>&gt;<i> other) to have a visual clue of the pallette?
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://colorschemedesigner.com/#4832Pw0w0w0w0">http://colorschemedesigner.com/#4832Pw0w0w0w0</A>
+
+or
+
+<A HREF="http://colorschemedesigner.com/#3y40qw0w0w0w0">http://colorschemedesigner.com/#3y40qw0w0w0w0</A>
+
+... just as starters. I think it needs loads of discussion; this is
+just a good resource to help us set up a palette. I&#180;ve put it out on
+the Artwork list, let&#180;s see if Alex comes up with anything.
+
+&gt;<i> And could you (yes, it falls on you! :-p) post on -discuss about this
+</I>&gt;<i> pallette research (and that more research will be done in -artwork and
+</I>&gt;<i> that we may as well ask to an outside designer in last resort)? Or do
+</I>&gt;<i> you think it will gather too many insiders to be able to sort this
+</I>&gt;<i> out?
+</I>
+Sure. Sorry for big gaps - I&#180;m on a work trip at the moment (Istanbul
+and Sharjah), and time&#180;s a bit short. Hopefully I&#180;ll get something up
+there tonight.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Sorry, nothing against individual taste but pink is totally out of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the question.
+</I>
+There&#180;s a LOT of different kinds of pink. And,
+
+&gt;<i> :D Depends how you use it (dominant colour or not).
+</I>
+Yep.
+
+Cheers,
+
+
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> 2011/2/9 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hello all !
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I was wondering if any of you was interested in holding a meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; thursday or friday at 4 or 5 pm UTC ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;[cut]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Leeloo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; what about at 7 UTC? i would like to attend this meeting...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can't come on Fridays.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thursday 18:30 UTC is i18n meeting time. A meeting where I would like
+</I>&gt;<i> to welcome you, Marcello, because we also need an Italian team there
+</I>&gt;<i> :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>
+i have nothing to say right now in i18n team, i will organize a team when we
+will have the need of translating something. in the while i prefer
+contributing on the marketing side, as i think it is quite unactive in these
+moments.
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+cheers,
+Marcello
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - people ask for a pitch for the project (which could be &quot;we don&quot;t
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; have a pitch&quot;; but they want one)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; what is a pitch? i searched the term but i can't understand its meaning...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A pitch is a quick, small, to the point description/promotion of your
+</I>&gt;<i> product or service. It is an expression frequently used in &quot;sales
+</I>&gt;<i> pitch&quot;, &quot;elevator pitch&quot; (as in, it has to take you less than 60
+</I>&gt;<i> seconds to expose what your product/service/company does to someone
+</I>&gt;<i> else: clear, concise, fast, efficient).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>ok, thanks : ) and we should create it about mageia project or about mageia
+distro?
+
+
+Marcello
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+&gt;<i> i have nothing to say right now in i18n team, i will organize a team when we
+</I>&gt;<i> will have the need of translating something. in the while i prefer
+</I>&gt;<i> contributing on the marketing side, as i think it is quite unactive in these
+</I>&gt;<i> moments.
+</I>
+Well, it is up to you of course. But we are doing at the moment:
+ - translating blog entries
+ - translating the website
+ - laying out the workflow for future translation work (transifex, calenco)
+ - building the teams (including their representatives to the
+international i18n team)
+ - etc.
+
+Examples:
+ - who do I contact if I want to ask something from the Italian team?
+ - who is the leader/substitute of the Italian team?
+ - what are the team's positions about the tools to use, the
+conventions, the etc. (all things we have discussed so far) ?
+
+We are preparing things and deciding on issues we will not have to
+prepare and decide anymore when the work starts.
+
+--
+wobo
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 23:17, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 22:58, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &#160;- people ask for a pitch for the project (which could be &quot;we don&quot;t
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; have a pitch&quot;; but they want one)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; what is a pitch? i searched the term but i can't understand its meaning...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A pitch is a quick, small, to the point description/promotion of your
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> product or service. It is an expression frequently used in &quot;sales
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> pitch&quot;, &quot;elevator pitch&quot; (as in, it has to take you less than 60
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> seconds to expose what your product/service/company does to someone
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> else: clear, concise, fast, efficient).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ok, thanks : ) and we should create it about mageia project or about mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> distro?
+</I>
+Both actually, but both are still very intertwined at this time.
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was wondering if any of you was interested in holding a meeting
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thursday or friday at 4 or 5 pm UTC ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do my best - not making it to many meetings lately, sorry!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If it&#180;s decided to have one, please can someone put a notice on the
+</I>&gt;<i> list?
+</I>
+OK, it may not be a *real* meeting as there are not so many people
+that told us they would attend, but there's a bunch of people on IRC
+that you can talk with.
+
+Romain and I will be on IRC anyway from 5pm UTC, so if you want to
+talk about something in particular, or just want to hang around, do
+not think twice.
+
+
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> 2011/2/10 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i have nothing to say right now in i18n team, i will organize a team when
+</I>we
+&gt;<i> &gt; will have the need of translating something. in the while i prefer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; contributing on the marketing side, as i think it is quite unactive in
+</I>these
+&gt;<i> &gt; moments.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, it is up to you of course. But we are doing at the moment:
+</I>&gt;<i> - translating blog entries
+</I>&gt;<i> - translating the website
+</I>&gt;<i> - laying out the workflow for future translation work (transifex, calenco)
+</I>&gt;<i> - building the teams (including their representatives to the
+</I>&gt;<i> international i18n team)
+</I>&gt;<i> - etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Examples:
+</I>&gt;<i> - who do I contact if I want to ask something from the Italian team?
+</I>&gt;<i> - who is the leader/substitute of the Italian team?
+</I>&gt;<i> - what are the team's positions about the tools to use, the
+</I>&gt;<i> conventions, the etc. (all things we have discussed so far) ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We are preparing things and deciding on issues we will not have to
+</I>&gt;<i> prepare and decide anymore when the work starts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>
+ok, i promise to create an italian team as soon as possible : ) the local MLs
+are not ready yet, right? i'd prefer to have a separated ml instead of using
+the general one for each team...
+
+
+marcello
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2011/2/13 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ok, i promise to create an italian team as soon as possible : ) the local MLs
+</I>&gt;<i> are not ready yet, right? i'd prefer to have a separated ml instead of using
+</I>&gt;<i> the general one for each team...
+</I>
+Yes, that is one of the points which were decided very early and the
+list i18n-it is already included in the second round of list requests.
+
+I don't want to hijack this thread here any more, you can get
+up-to-date about what already happened in i18n by reading the meeting
+logs on <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=meetings#international_i18n-team_meetings.">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=meetings#international_i18n-team_meetings.</A>
+
+--
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+as we are quite unactive this period i take the chance to back again to work
+(overall after this great alpha release :-). what do you think about these
+topics to discuss:
+- back to vision work (long-term vision about mageia project)
+- back to mission work (short/medium-term vision about mageia distro)
+- target product choice
+- leader and vice election
+- guidelines to provide to artwork and dev teams
+- decide which way (and means) to promote mageia
+- create a pitch for the product and the project
+- think about creating a mageia commit-digest (meetbot here could be really
+useful!)
+- anything else : )
+
+is it ok for you a meeting on friday 18th at 19:00 UTC? please, let me know
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Marcello,
+
+&gt;<i> as we are quite unactive this period i take the chance to back again
+</I>&gt;<i> to work (overall after this great alpha release :-). what do you
+</I>&gt;<i> think about these topics to discuss:
+</I>&gt;<i> - back to vision work (long-term vision about mageia project)
+</I>&gt;<i> - back to mission work (short/medium-term vision about mageia distro)
+</I>&gt;<i> - target product choice
+</I>&gt;<i> - leader and vice election
+</I>&gt;<i> - guidelines to provide to artwork and dev teams
+</I>&gt;<i> - decide which way (and means) to promote mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> - create a pitch for the product and the project
+</I>&gt;<i> - think about creating a mageia commit-digest (meetbot here could be
+</I>&gt;<i> really useful!)
+</I>&gt;<i> - anything else : )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is it ok for you a meeting on friday 18th at 19:00 UTC? please, let
+</I>&gt;<i> me know
+</I>
+Great, yes! I&#180;m able to do that time. I&#180;ll be there if it&#180;s okay for
+everyone else.
+
+Cheers,
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+On 02/16/2011 09:13 AM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Marcello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as we are quite unactive this period i take the chance to back again
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to work (overall after this great alpha release :-). what do you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> think about these topics to discuss:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - back to vision work (long-term vision about mageia project)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - back to mission work (short/medium-term vision about mageia distro)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - target product choice
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - leader and vice election
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - guidelines to provide to artwork and dev teams
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - decide which way (and means) to promote mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - create a pitch for the product and the project
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - think about creating a mageia commit-digest (meetbot here could be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> really useful!)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - anything else : )
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is it ok for you a meeting on friday 18th at 19:00 UTC? please, let
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> me know
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Great, yes! I&#180;m able to do that time. I&#180;ll be there if it&#180;s okay for
+</I>&gt;<i> everyone else.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> as we are quite unactive this period i take the chance to back again to work
+</I>&gt;<i> (overall after this great alpha release :-). what do you think about these
+</I>&gt;<i> topics to discuss:
+</I>&gt;<i> - back to vision work (long-term vision about mageia project)
+</I>&gt;<i> - back to mission work (short/medium-term vision about mageia distro)
+</I>&gt;<i> - target product choice
+</I>&gt;<i> - leader and vice election
+</I>&gt;<i> - guidelines to provide to artwork and dev teams
+</I>&gt;<i> - decide which way (and means) to promote mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> - create a pitch for the product and the project
+</I>&gt;<i> - think about creating a mageia commit-digest (meetbot here could be really
+</I>&gt;<i> useful!)
+</I>&gt;<i> - anything else : )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is it ok for you a meeting on friday 18th at 19:00 UTC? please, let me know
+</I>
+It works for me too.
+See you then.
+
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+The locale is: &quot;fr&quot; - <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/fr">http://planet.mageia.org/fr</A>
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+The locale is: &quot;fr&quot; - <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/fr">http://planet.mageia.org/fr</A>
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+<PRE>Info: a new Planet had been deployed.
+The locale is: &quot;fr&quot; - <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/fr">http://planet.mageia.org/fr</A>
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+<PRE>Info: a new Planet had been deployed.
+The locale is: &quot;en&quot; - <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en">http://planet.mageia.org/en</A>
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+<PRE>Info: a new Planet had been deployed.
+The locale is: &quot;de&quot; - <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/de">http://planet.mageia.org/de</A>
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+The locale is: &quot;pt&quot; - <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/pt">http://planet.mageia.org/pt</A>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as we are quite unactive this period i take the chance to back again to
+</I>work
+&gt;<i> &gt; (overall after this great alpha release :-). what do you think about these
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; topics to discuss:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - back to vision work (long-term vision about mageia project)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - back to mission work (short/medium-term vision about mageia distro)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - target product choice
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - leader and vice election
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - guidelines to provide to artwork and dev teams
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - decide which way (and means) to promote mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - create a pitch for the product and the project
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - think about creating a mageia commit-digest (meetbot here could be
+</I>really
+&gt;<i> &gt; useful!)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - anything else : )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is it ok for you a meeting on friday 18th at 19:00 UTC? please, let me
+</I>know
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It works for me too.
+</I>&gt;<i> See you then.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+i'm sorry, i can't attend to this meeting.... i just mesaured my fever and i
+have 38,3 C&#176;.. i'm going to the bed : ( (and the worst thing is that i have an
+exam on february 23th, i hope i will get better soon!)...
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
+
+
+PS= wobo, did you attacked me?
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+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as we are quite unactive this period i take the chance to back again to
+</I>work
+&gt;<i> &gt; (overall after this great alpha release :-). what do you think about these
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; topics to discuss:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - back to vision work (long-term vision about mageia project)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - back to mission work (short/medium-term vision about mageia distro)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - target product choice
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - leader and vice election
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - guidelines to provide to artwork and dev teams
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - decide which way (and means) to promote mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - create a pitch for the product and the project
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - think about creating a mageia commit-digest (meetbot here could be
+</I>really
+&gt;<i> &gt; useful!)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - anything else : )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is it ok for you a meeting on friday 18th at 19:00 UTC? please, let me
+</I>know
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It works for me too.
+</I>&gt;<i> See you then.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+i'm sorry, i can't attend to this meeting.... i just mesaured my fever and i
+have 38,3 C&#176;.. i'm going to the bed : ( (and the worst thing is that i have an
+exam on february 23th, i hope i will get better soon!)...
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
+
+
+i'm near ok right now, when you are available these days?
+
+
+Marcello
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+A medium sized event is coming up in Germany (
+<A HREF="http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2011/info/index?cookielang=en">http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2011/info/index?cookielang=en</A> ) and we
+will present Mageia at a stand. The organisation team sponsors the
+print of a large sized poster for each project, not only for this
+event but also to take away and for use at other events.
+
+See an example (our poster for the Mandriva community):
+<A HREF="ftp://ftp.mandrivauser.de/magazin/poster-chemnitz-v2.pdf">ftp://ftp.mandrivauser.de/magazin/poster-chemnitz-v2.pdf</A>
+
+As you can see i will need a logo to show. I know that the logo is not
+yet finalized. But the deadline for the poster is coming Saturday (Feb
+26th). So, the question is, what I could use. I need it in EPS and
+PNG. Pls note that this poster will be shown at all German events this
+year.
+
+I will compile and send the other parts of the poster for comments
+later today or tomorrow.
+
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+
+thanks Marcello to ping the team again! :-)
+
+On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 17:26, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> topics to discuss:
+</I>&gt;<i> - back to vision work (long-term vision about mageia project)
+</I>&gt;<i> - back to mission work (short/medium-term vision about mageia distro)
+</I>
+Yep (as a side note, you left the channel before I could reply: it's
+not only about linking from the temp wiki to Graham one and
+vice-versa, but to copy the pages contents to the temp wiki).
+
+
+&gt;<i> - target product choice
+</I>
+Already been discussed several times and squared back, both for
+product and project. But good for reminding/improving on it, yes.
+
+It should be discussed on -discuss and kept into reasonably feasible
+limits: roughly, Mageia 1 will be a release providing typical ISOs,
+roughly equivalent to a MDV Free++, in DVD, liveCD, VMs forms - those
+ISOs will allow for desktop and server deployment at least, minimal
+systems setup (from the dualarch). There's room for improvement in how
+we present/dispatch things. Again, this must be open and discussed on
+-discuss in a guided manner before we close it, and help present the
+final images in June.
+
+As for discussing target as a particular population, Mageia 1 is too
+soon and the team is too small at this time to try to go further than
+the conservative path: make a strong product, with many different
+possible uses + attract/advocate to advanced users that can become
+developers/contributors. Advanced users does not necessarily mean
+&quot;highly technically skilled people&quot;, btw. And that does not prevent
+the product to be used/usable for non-experts: what is good for
+non-experts is good as well for experts; or it's not well executed.
+
+
+&gt;<i> - leader and vice election
+</I>
+And further team organisation and pace, yes.
+
+&gt;<i> - guidelines to provide to artwork and dev teams
+</I>
+Not sure what you mean by guidelines for dev teams?
+
+As for artwork, that would be a joint effort. I'll fire up the wiki
+pages with templates/directions about that, as we already had a few
+drafts from the past weeks.
+
+
+&gt;<i> - decide which way (and means) to promote mageia
+</I>
+Wobo had an interesting start for previous Council meeting, but we ran
+out of time/energy to get to there. Next week I guess.
+
+
+&gt;<i> - create a pitch for the product and the project
+</I>
+Goes back to above vision/mission, actually. That's a dynamic thing,
+but we can at least set a global theme for the next 2 years and for
+later on.
+
+
+&gt;<i> - think about creating a mageia commit-digest (meetbot here could be really
+</I>&gt;<i> useful!)
+</I>
+Could you describe in more details what you mean by that?
+
+
+&gt;<i> - anything else : )
+</I>
+Well, that's a reflexion to have on -discuss as well, but I would like
+the project to work on how people contributing and using the
+distribution recognize themselves, as a group, online and offline.
+
+In a very concrete example, that could be, not exclusive of other
+things, having a lightweight social network (as in, people having a
+dynamic shared profile page that advertises their role and
+contributions within the project) and/or having a way to prominently
+push forward the human side of the project (real pictures of real
+people involved in the project).
+
+One other avatar of this could be the bonjourmageia.fr website (not
+used yet, but can be as soon as a team can take a hold on it):
+everyday, or every two days, a picture of someone, a group of people,
+involved/linked to Mageia + a short presentation of who/what/when/why.
+
+
+All in all, that makes quite a big list of things to manage. So it
+would be good to prioritize and dispatch:
+ - more communication topics: comm tools, promotion stategy, bonjour,
+blog, website
+ - more marketing topics: mission/vision, pitch, Mageia 1 product presentation
+
+Reminder: alpha 2 is for March 15th* (in 19 days) and it would be
+really great that by then (for its release):
+ - some work is done on the pitch (that means vision/mission is
+squared a bit as well and pushed by the board);
+ - product presentation discussion has started on -discuss
+ - comm team sets up.
+
+Beta 1 is for April, 5th* (in 40 days) and here we need to have the
+website ready in many aspects so the identity/strategy of the project
+already squared so we can have made some progress on the site info
+architecture, goals and navigation, then its design.
+
+* roadmap is here:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_1_specifications#expected_milestones">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_1_specifications#expected_milestones</A>
+
+
+Now, as for holding a meeting, as far as I am concerned, it would
+happen in the 8-18 UTC time frame - as
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time</A>
+suggests, 15 UTC on Thursday would fit (or Monday, but we miss people
+then; or Wednesday but we miss people too). Or if we want to get with
+Graham, we need to do it way sooner in the morning or later in the
+evening (and I won't be there then).
+
+So let's try next Thursday at 15 UTC on #mageia-marcom and in the
+meantime, start the work on the list and on the channel, anytime, with
+people being there and ready.
+
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Now, as for holding a meeting, as far as I am concerned, it would
+</I>&gt;<i> happen in the 8-18 UTC time frame - as
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> suggests, 15 UTC on Thursday would fit (or Monday, but we miss people
+</I>&gt;<i> then; or Wednesday but we miss people too). Or if we want to get with
+</I>&gt;<i> Graham, we need to do it way sooner in the morning or later in the
+</I>&gt;<i> evening (and I won't be there then).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So let's try next Thursday at 15 UTC on #mageia-marcom and in the
+</I>&gt;<i> meantime, start the work on the list and on the channel, anytime, with
+</I>&gt;<i> people being there and ready.
+</I>
+for me it's ok. in the while i'll set up all the mrketing pages in the current
+mageia wiki.
+
+&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> ________________________
+</I>
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="96">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="97">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000146.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000147.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000150.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="98">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="99">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000148.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="95">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="93">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000131.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;line Harrand
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;line Harrand
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;line Harrand
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-webteam] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
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+<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="92">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
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+<LI><A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
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+<LI><A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
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+<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="89">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="90">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="91">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="94">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+<LI><A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
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+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+<LI><A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+<LI><A HREF="000149.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
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+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="89">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="90">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="91">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="92">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="93">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="94">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="95">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="96">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="97">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="98">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="99">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;line Harrand
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;line Harrand
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000131.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;line Harrand
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-marketing] test
+</A><A NAME="139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-webteam] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000142.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000143.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000144.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000145.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000146.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000147.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000148.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000149.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000150.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Feb 24 18:22:42 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Feb 24 18:23:04 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
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+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>February 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Feb 2 23:11:24 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Feb 24 18:22:42 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 62<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-webteam] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000131.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;line Harrand
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000146.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000147.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000149.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000150.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="96">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="98">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="90">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="91">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="92">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="94">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="95">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="89">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="93">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="97">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="99">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000148.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000142.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000143.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000144.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000145.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;line Harrand
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;line Harrand
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-marketing] test
+</A><A NAME="139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Feb 2 23:11:24 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Feb 24 18:22:42 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 62<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01296684684- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="89">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01296684684-01296715930- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="93">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01296684684-01296715930-01297210183- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01296684684-01296715930-01297210183-01297247676- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01296684684-01296715930-01297210183-01297247676-01297248740- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01296684684-01296715930-01297210183-01297247676-01297248740-01297250093- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000107.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01296684684-01296715930-01297210183-01297247676-01297273721- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000117.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01296684684-01296715930-01297210183-01297247676-01297281311- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000118.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01296684684-01296715930-01297210183-01297247676-01297359485- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01296684684-01297200750- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000097.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="97">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01296684684-01297209929- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="99">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01296684684-01297209929-01297246823- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it full of colours?
+</A><A NAME="103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01296684843- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="90">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01296684843-01296704401- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="92">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01296684843-01296704401-01296747527- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="94">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01296685122- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="91">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01296770183- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="95">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297199047- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="96">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01297199047-01297209657- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="98">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01297199047-01297209657-01297237639- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000101.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01297199047-01297209657-01297246707- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01297199047-01297209657-01297246707-01297248453- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01297199047-01297209657-01297246707-01297289300- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000114.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01297199047-01297209657-01297246707-01297289300-01297295419- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000116.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01297199047-01297209657-01297246707-01297289300-01297347366- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01297255490- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000108.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;line Harrand
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01297255490-01297268715- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000109.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01297255490-01297268715-01297272509- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000110.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01297255490-01297268715-01297288699- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000113.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01297255490-01297268715-01297288699-01297296533- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01297255490-01297268715-01297288699-01297296533-01297376270- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01297255490-01297268715-01297288699-01297296533-01297376270-01297431787- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000126.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01297255490-01297281233- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000111.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01297255490-01297288580- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000112.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01297255490-01297288580-01297294972- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000115.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01297255490-01297288580-01297294972-01297376086- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01297255490-01297288580-01297294972-01297376086-01297381774- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000125.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01297255490-01297288580-01297294972-01297376086-01297381774-01297620242- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01297255490-01297288580-01297294972-01297376086-01297381774-01297620242-01297669463- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01297255490-01297359462- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01297255490-01297359462-01297433245- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000127.html">[Mageia-marketing] request for meeting
+</A><A NAME="127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;line Harrand
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01297873560- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01297873560-01297876405- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000131.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01297873560-01297876405-01297902520- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01297873560-01297929543- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;line Harrand
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01297873560-01297929543-01298054028- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000146.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01297873560-01298562798- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000149.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01297873560-01298562798-01298568162- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000150.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01297963291- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297963295- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297963588- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297963592- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297964100- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-marketing] test
+</A><A NAME="139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297968349- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-webteam] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297972619- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297972623- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297972629- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000142.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297972634- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000143.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297972639- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000144.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297972828- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000145.html">[Mageia-marketing] New planet Mageia deployed
+</A><A NAME="145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>root
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01298488579- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000147.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01298521189- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000148.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Feb 24 18:22:42 CET 2011</i><br>
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+ <H1>[Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team</H1>
+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20what%20are%20the%20%28future%29%20plans%20of%20the%20Mageia%0A%20marketing%20team&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTintr7%3DbHD07g_OrJAM%2BMWZgX%3Dw7S1dgHPYpR1-o%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team">rdalverny at gmail.com
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+ <I>Mon Jan 3 15:17:34 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+thanks for your message! And Happy New Year, to you and everyone here!
+
+On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 15:16, suikerstroop &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">suikerstroop at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information
+</I>&gt;<i> about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.
+</I>&gt;<i> Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with
+</I>&gt;<i> them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.
+</I>&gt;<i> Are there other dutch speaking people involved&#160;in the Mageia Marketing team.
+</I>
+I'll let the other members of the team complete.
+
+The whole Mageia thing is still in the making. From past September, we
+basically set up:
+ - the project &amp; the association
+ - the code of conduct - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/">http://mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/</A>
+ - a set of values - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/about/values/">http://mageia.org/en/about/values/</A> (coordinated
+by the marketing team)
+ - the teams and how we're going to work together -
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org</A>
+ - the logo - <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/?p=289">http://blog.mageia.org/?p=289</A>
+ - lots of discussions - (-discuss and -dev mostly for now)
+<A HREF="https://mageia.org/mailman/">https://mageia.org/mailman/</A>
+ - a first roadmap to release a first test-drive ISO -
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap</A>
+ - a set of policies - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=policies">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=policies</A>
+ - the build system
+
+Among discussions has been especially one about &quot;users targetting&quot;, on
+-discuss and with the Marketing team. This thread for instance
+(pointing to one of my answers, which still stands):
+<A HREF="https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20101018/002460.html">https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20101018/002460.html</A>
+
+About the roadmap, we've slipped out of the initial schedule (that was
+especially to release our first alpha ISO in December). We're now
+targetting end of January for that first alpha release. Teams are
+still building themselves, especially those that will technically
+contribute to the distribution.
+
+What we can improve right now is, more interaction/integration of the
+marketing/comm' teams with the other teams of the project. At this
+time, what is on the marketing/comm team plan would be:
+ * making sure everyone is on par
+ * vision/mission docs (there were drafts produced about this, any status?)
+ * working on the first alpha release process (that is targetted to a
+very specific, small set of people)
+ * working on the next unstable release
+ * preparing the stable release (around April), after the first alpha
+(that is, understanding what it will be, and how it can be released,
+and for who, for what purpose)
+ * preparing a plan for further releases, later (with more specific
+user targets)
+
+Moreover, that's a bit out of the topic, but I wonder how we may
+integrate more marketing/communication/artwork/web teams together?
+(not make a single one, but have people gather more among those)
+
+&gt;<i> How can I donate money?
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/donate/">http://www.mageia.org/en/donate/</A>
+
+&gt;<i> How and where can I meet Mageia Marketing people in real life and not just
+</I>&gt;<i> the internet. Does the Mageia marketing team intend not only visit the
+</I>&gt;<i> FOSDEM in Brussels in February 2011, but also other kind of events.
+</I>
+Some Mageia founders (me included) and contributors will attend FOSDEM
+(see <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:fosdem2011">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:fosdem2011</A>) and expect
+to attend some other events; see
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap</A> (will be updated
+regularly). What other kind of events do you think of, for instance?
+
+&gt;<i> Does Mageia try to reach a broader user base than only (hardcore) nerds?
+</I>
+What makes you think of that? and what is your definition of
+(hardcode) nerds? :-)
+
+More seriously, Mageia as a project welcomes contributors from various
+origins, including hardcore nerds (whatever discipline they are from).
+And it aims at various types of users. But.
+
+But first, the project focus is on _contributors_, as this is what
+will make the project sustainable or not at first. This is the stage
+we are in at this time, while we are building our first release
+process, as well as the whole project, at large. &quot;Contributors&quot; is a
+small word for a large definition; see our teams on
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/">http://mageia.org/wiki/</A> .
+
+Second, the project focus will shift on use cases we can target with
+our base distribution, and what projects can derive from that. The
+goal is not to make yet another classic Linux distribution. So while
+it may produce a pretty decent Linux distribution for desktop/server
+use, it may as well produce something else from that.
+
+&gt;<i> Are there plans to open meeting points and demonstration rooms for showing
+</I>&gt;<i> people the Mageia-distribution.
+</I>
+We don't have the means to do that but local initiatives are welcome.
+
+&gt;<i> Are there plans to have a Mageia CDEES such as Ubuntu have?
+</I>
+CDEES?
+
+&gt;<i> What are the planned release cycle of Mageia? How long will
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia be supported by updates?
+</I>
+Nothing discussed/decided about this yet. I guess it will have to wait
+about the technical releases so that we can discuss/decide about this
+for the first stable release (expected around April).
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i> than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Today's Topics:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Re: what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</I>&gt;<i> (Romain d'Alverny)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:17:34 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Romain d'Alverny&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: Mageia marketing team discussion list
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia marketing team
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID:
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;AANLkTintr7=bHD07g_OrJAM+MWZgX=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">w7S1dgHPYpR1-o at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> thanks for your message! And Happy New Year, to you and everyone here!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 15:16, suikerstroop &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">suikerstroop at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Are there other dutch speaking people involved?in the Mageia Marketing
+</I>&gt;<i> team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll let the other members of the team complete.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The whole Mageia thing is still in the making.
+</I>
+
+How can I play an active role in the Mageia marketing team? Is there a kind
+of meeting point?
+I would like to target not-linux users yet?
+
+Questions about the mageia-distribution:
+- What kind of desktop environment will mageia use? KDE, XFCE, GNOME,
+enlightment, LXDE
+- choice of office package -&gt; OpenOffice, LibreOffice, KOffice, Abiword and
+Gnumeric
+- choice of system management tools
+- choice of file manager -&gt; Thunar, Dolphin, Nautilus or something else
+- choice of multi media player -&gt; Totem, Xineplayer, Mplayer, Kaefine,VLC
+player
+- choice of burning software -&gt; K3B, brasero, XFburn
+ excuses for eventually mis typings.
+
+Yours sincerely,
+
+Zwikkle
+
+PS: I am not a great fan of using the following stuff:
+- Java --&gt; makes the computer slower than necessary
+- Mono --&gt; patented stuff
+- KDE --&gt; is not very stable
+- OpenOffice --&gt; because too many Java in it.
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+<PRE>Well, mageia is fork from mandriva which is will use KDE as major DE IMHO.
+For not being fans i guess all DE have they own fans. So it would be no
+problem at all. You can find in archlinux statistic for example. Major DE
+they use is KDE, it list on they package statistic. I'm on arch, ubuntu and
+mandriva. So between each distro doesn't matter which DE you use is not a
+problem. The important things is how to promote mageia so people will see it
+as a good Distro compared with the old one.
+
+On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:00 PM, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing-request at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Send Mageia-marketing mailing list submissions to
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing-request at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can reach the person managing the list at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing-owner at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
+</I>&gt;<i> than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Today's Topics:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Re: Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1 (suikerstroop)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:10:24 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> From: suikerstroop &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">suikerstroop at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue
+</I>&gt;<i> 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID:
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;AANLkTikqunft5uwwZUhO==<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">KEYhUP0Y64aPNhz6ih-Jsg at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Today's Topics:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1. Re: what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (Romain d'Alverny)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Message: 1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:17:34 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; From: &quot;Romain d'Alverny&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; To: Mageia marketing team discussion list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia marketing team
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Message-ID:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;AANLkTintr7=bHD07g_OrJAM+MWZgX=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">w7S1dgHPYpR1-o at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; thanks for your message! And Happy New Year, to you and everyone here!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 15:16, suikerstroop &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">suikerstroop at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short
+</I>&gt;<i> information
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch
+</I>&gt;<i> with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Are there other dutch speaking people involved?in the Mageia Marketing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; team.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'll let the other members of the team complete.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The whole Mageia thing is still in the making.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How can I play an active role in the Mageia marketing team? Is there a kind
+</I>&gt;<i> of meeting point?
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to target not-linux users yet?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Questions about the mageia-distribution:
+</I>&gt;<i> - What kind of desktop environment will mageia use? KDE, XFCE, GNOME,
+</I>&gt;<i> enlightment, LXDE
+</I>&gt;<i> - choice of office package -&gt; OpenOffice, LibreOffice, KOffice, Abiword and
+</I>&gt;<i> Gnumeric
+</I>&gt;<i> - choice of system management tools
+</I>&gt;<i> - choice of file manager -&gt; Thunar, Dolphin, Nautilus or something else
+</I>&gt;<i> - choice of multi media player -&gt; Totem, Xineplayer, Mplayer, Kaefine,VLC
+</I>&gt;<i> player
+</I>&gt;<i> - choice of burning software -&gt; K3B, brasero, XFburn
+</I>&gt;<i> excuses for eventually mis typings.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yours sincerely,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Zwikkle
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: I am not a great fan of using the following stuff:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Java --&gt; makes the computer slower than necessary
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mono --&gt; patented stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> - KDE --&gt; is not very stable
+</I>&gt;<i> - OpenOffice --&gt; because too many Java in it.
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 18:10, suikerstroop &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">suikerstroop at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;
+</I>
+;-)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; 1. Re: what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160;(Romain d'Alverny)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How can I play an active role in the Mageia marketing team? Is there a kind
+</I>&gt;<i> of meeting point?
+</I>
+Here and <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom">irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom</A> - but again, the team
+is not very active yet.
+
+&gt;<i> I would like to target not-linux users yet?
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Questions about the mageia-distribution:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>
+At least KDE and GNOME. You may want to follow discussion on -discuss
+and here to see progress on these topics.
+
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+happy new year to everyone. I wish you all the best!
+
+This mail for four things:
+ 1. I guess there's not much activity in the marketing area; since
+several weeks; what's your diagnostic about that?
+ 2. shall we hold an IRC meeting next week (if possible between 9:00
+and 15:00 UTC) on irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom to:
+ * know where we are (see 1.);
+ * continue from there;
+ * start discussing the website contents/editorial structure;
+ * start thinking about the distribution release that will start
+with a very technical alpha this month; (so that we can discuss this
+too on -discuss);
+ * think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+ 3. we did not yet launch the communication team (willing contributors
+here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication</A> ); I wonder if
+we wouldn't better merge both teams (marketing+communication) to have
+those two especially in sync (as well as with an effort to sync with
+artwork &amp; some web devs);
+ 4. who will be at FOSDEM in February? (5-6, in Brussels)
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> happy new year to everyone. I wish you all the best!
+</I>
+thank you, to you too : )
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This mail for four things:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. I guess there's not much activity in the marketing area; since
+</I>&gt;<i> several weeks; what's your diagnostic about that?
+</I>
+i think this is somehow due to the lack in this period of our leader, graham
+laudrer. it seems we have no idea about the work to do
+
+&gt;<i> 2. shall we hold an IRC meeting next week (if possible between 9:00
+</I>&gt;<i> and 15:00 UTC) on irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom to:
+</I>&gt;<i> * know where we are (see 1.);
+</I>&gt;<i> * continue from there;
+</I>&gt;<i> * start discussing the website contents/editorial structure;
+</I>&gt;<i> * start thinking about the distribution release that will start
+</I>&gt;<i> with a very technical alpha this month; (so that we can discuss this
+</I>&gt;<i> too on -discuss);
+</I>&gt;<i> * think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+</I>
+for me is it ok... when would you like to organize it?
+&gt;<i> 3. we did not yet launch the communication team (willing contributors
+</I>&gt;<i> here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication</A> ); I wonder if
+</I>&gt;<i> we wouldn't better merge both teams (marketing+communication) to have
+</I>&gt;<i> those two especially in sync (as well as with an effort to sync with
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork &amp; some web devs);
+</I>
+exactely, i don't see any reason to merge these two groups (many tasks similar
+and need a deep coordination between them
+
+&gt;<i> 4. who will be at FOSDEM in February? (5-6, in Brussels)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>i can't : )
+
+&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+Cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> happy new year to everyone. I wish you all the best!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> thank you, to you too : )
+</I>
+Happy new year to all !
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> This mail for four things:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. I guess there's not much activity in the marketing area; since
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> several weeks; what's your diagnostic about that?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i think this is somehow due to the lack in this period of our leader, graham
+</I>&gt;<i> laudrer. it seems we have no idea about the work to do
+</I>
+I think we all have to reload the machine, and go on with 2011. :)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 2. shall we hold an IRC meeting next week (if possible between 9:00
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and 15:00 UTC) on irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom to:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * know where we are (see 1.);
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * continue from there;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * start discussing the website contents/editorial structure;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * start thinking about the distribution release that will start
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with a very technical alpha this month; (so that we can discuss this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> too on -discuss);
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> for me is it ok... when would you like to organize it?
+</I>
+Will there be enough people available between 9.00 and 15.00 ?
+(I won't)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 3. we did not yet launch the communication team (willing contributors
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication</A> ); I wonder if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we wouldn't better merge both teams (marketing+communication) to have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> those two especially in sync (as well as with an effort to sync with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> artwork&amp; some web devs);
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> exactely, i don't see any reason to merge these two groups (many tasks similar
+</I>&gt;<i> and need a deep coordination between them
+</I>
+I think it's possible (even recommanded) to merge these two teams
+because many tasks of each of the two teams are bound or have an shared
+interest.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 4. who will be at FOSDEM in February? (5-6, in Brussels)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i can't : )
+</I>
+Me ! :)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcello
+</I>
+--
+DjeZAeL / Elodie
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+ <B>Graham Lauder</B>
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+<PRE>On Saturday 08 January 2011 05:57:05 Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> happy new year to everyone. I wish you all the best!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This mail for four things:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. I guess there's not much activity in the marketing area; since
+</I>&gt;<i> several weeks; what's your diagnostic about that?
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. shall we hold an IRC meeting next week (if possible between 9:00
+</I>&gt;<i> and 15:00 UTC) on irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom to:
+</I>&gt;<i> * know where we are (see 1.);
+</I>&gt;<i> * continue from there;
+</I>&gt;<i> * start discussing the website contents/editorial structure;
+</I>&gt;<i> * start thinking about the distribution release that will start
+</I>&gt;<i> with a very technical alpha this month; (so that we can discuss this
+</I>&gt;<i> too on -discuss);
+</I>&gt;<i> * think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. we did not yet launch the communication team (willing contributors
+</I>&gt;<i> here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication</A> ); I wonder if
+</I>&gt;<i> we wouldn't better merge both teams (marketing+communication) to have
+</I>&gt;<i> those two especially in sync (as well as with an effort to sync with
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork &amp; some web devs);
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. who will be at FOSDEM in February? (5-6, in Brussels)
+</I>
+Apologies all, my earlier positive claims about my return were rather
+premature and after weeks of Physio I am at last getting back the use of my
+hand. My wife is restricting my computer time savagely because holding onto a
+mouse for any length of time results in my hand seizing up followed by 15
+minutes or so of painful stretching and exercises. It appears we don't repair
+as easily as we once did when we had fewer wrinkles and grey hairs.
+
+On the upside my physio recommended kneading dough as a good therapuetic
+exercise so I've become a dab hand at making bread, this week I'm moving on to
+pizza dough.
+
+The good news is that all of the above has been doing the deed and I'm well on
+the way to full recovery. I'm now &quot;allowed&quot; three 30 minute stretches at the
+keyboard per day, a vast improvement since before xmas and I should be back to
+full function within a week or two and I shall start annoying everyone again.
+
+Cheers
+GL
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+<PRE>Hi Graham:
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+Le 2011-01-07 16:22, Graham Lauder a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Saturday 08 January 2011 05:57:05 Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> happy new year to everyone. I wish you all the best!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This mail for four things:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. I guess there's not much activity in the marketing area; since
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> several weeks; what's your diagnostic about that?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. shall we hold an IRC meeting next week (if possible between 9:00
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and 15:00 UTC) on irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom to:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * know where we are (see 1.);
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * continue from there;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * start discussing the website contents/editorial structure;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * start thinking about the distribution release that will start
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with a very technical alpha this month; (so that we can discuss this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> too on -discuss);
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3. we did not yet launch the communication team (willing contributors
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication</A> ); I wonder if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we wouldn't better merge both teams (marketing+communication) to have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> those two especially in sync (as well as with an effort to sync with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> artwork&amp; some web devs);
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 4. who will be at FOSDEM in February? (5-6, in Brussels)
+</I>&gt;<i> Apologies all, my earlier positive claims about my return were rather
+</I>&gt;<i> premature and after weeks of Physio I am at last getting back the use of my
+</I>&gt;<i> hand. My wife is restricting my computer time savagely because holding onto a
+</I>&gt;<i> mouse for any length of time results in my hand seizing up followed by 15
+</I>&gt;<i> minutes or so of painful stretching and exercises. It appears we don't repair
+</I>&gt;<i> as easily as we once did when we had fewer wrinkles and grey hairs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On the upside my physio recommended kneading dough as a good therapuetic
+</I>&gt;<i> exercise so I've become a dab hand at making bread, this week I'm moving on to
+</I>&gt;<i> pizza dough.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The good news is that all of the above has been doing the deed and I'm well on
+</I>&gt;<i> the way to full recovery. I'm now &quot;allowed&quot; three 30 minute stretches at the
+</I>&gt;<i> keyboard per day, a vast improvement since before xmas and I should be back to
+</I>&gt;<i> full function within a week or two and I shall start annoying everyone again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> GL
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Nice to hear from you again. I was wondering where you had disappeared
+and thought that you had perhaps come into a vast amount of money and
+decided to retire in the splendour of bliss somewhere on earth. Some
+people actually equate the making of bread as this, so, in a way, you
+are already there.
+
+All the very best with your health and nice to have you back.
+
+Cheers
+
+Marc
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+&gt;<i> &gt; happy new year to everyone. I wish you all the best!
+</I>
+From me to all, also!
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; This mail for four things:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1. I guess there's not much activity in the marketing area; since
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; several weeks; what's your diagnostic about that?
+</I>
+I think it might be a good time to revisit what the project as a
+whole (founders, devels, everyone) wants from its marketing team -
+seems like we had a bit of divergence there, and it would be good to
+bring that back together.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; 2. shall we hold an IRC meeting next week (if possible between
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 9:00 and 15:00 UTC) on irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom to:
+</I>
+Fine for me - any day is ok. Is this also a good time for Graham
+or any other Antipodeans?
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; 3. we did not yet launch the communication team (willing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; contributors here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication</A> ); I wonder if
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; we wouldn't better merge both teams (marketing+communication) to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have those two especially in sync (as well as with an effort to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sync with artwork &amp; some web devs);
+</I>
+I think marketing and communication belong together! let's go for it.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; 4. who will be at FOSDEM in February? (5-6, in Brussels)
+</I>
+I wish. Next one I'll be better organised - but, what do people need
+to have ready, that we can/should be doing? And, can we maybe work up
+a calendar of events, so we can be ready for them?
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+za jan 8 16:07:58 CET 2011
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+<PRE>On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 22:22, Graham Lauder &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">yorick_ at openoffice.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On the upside my physio recommended kneading dough as a good therapuetic
+</I>&gt;<i> exercise so I've become a dab hand at making bread, this week I'm moving on to
+</I>&gt;<i> pizza dough.
+</I>
+Yum.
+
+&gt;<i> The good news is that all of the above has been doing the deed and I'm well on
+</I>&gt;<i> the way to full recovery. &#160;I'm now &quot;allowed&quot; three 30 minute stretches at the
+</I>&gt;<i> keyboard per day, a vast improvement since before xmas and I should be back to
+</I>&gt;<i> full function within a week or two and I shall start annoying everyone again.
+</I>
+:<i>) Nice to hear from you again!
+</I>
+
+On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 16:13, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;1. I guess there's not much activity in the marketing area; since
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; several weeks; what's your diagnostic about that?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it might be a good time to revisit what the project as a
+</I>&gt;<i> whole (founders, devels, everyone) wants from its marketing team -
+</I>&gt;<i> seems like we had a bit of divergence there, and it would be good to
+</I>&gt;<i> bring that back together.
+</I>
+Yes. Actually, it seems that my refocus points [1] made things stop
+somehow? We slipped out of schedule (first alpha is for this month and
+we're headed for FOSDEM) and several events made things slower. The
+divergence is still in some heads I guess and it needs to be precised.
+
+I can't speak for other founders; my point of view is that the
+desirable marketing design effort in Mageia is not to target what
+exists but in suggesting new stuff (products, technology, use-cases)
+from what we can achieve already. That's easier said than done of
+course. And that's not predictable at all. That's the point: working
+for a Linux distribution project community, but to prepare a way for
+something else/more than the desktop/laptop/tablet/server OS thing.
+
+So that requires first to see/understand what we can achieve as a
+community. So that needs to focus first on contributors as they will
+make the project go a long way, or not. Who are they? What do they do?
+Why? What for? Who knows about that and who should be told about it?
+[2]
+
+As long as we did not ship of very first stable release, we can not
+aim to specific (known or unknown) use cases (reminding a discussion
+about this a few months ago).
+
+Said more shortly, if we are to release Mageia 1 around April/May,
+that will be a pretty generic LInux distribution platofmr, some more
+specific packaging/release could be discussed then, but not
+(officially) released before Mageia 2 (or it would be community
+derivatives, but this could precisely to be coordinated in some way so
+it gets full support later).
+
+[1] second/last part of
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20101018/002460.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20101018/002460.html</A>
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+[2] that's a very shared concern with the communication team tasks, so
+that's the reason of my point below, actually. Having the two teams
+mix and work together to forge the communication strategy of the
+project, toward itself first, toward outside followers, and then, when
+we ship something, to its potential users.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;2. shall we hold an IRC meeting next week (if possible between
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 9:00 and 15:00 UTC) on irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom to:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Fine for me - any day is ok. Is this also a good time for Graham
+</I>&gt;<i> or any other Antipodeans?
+</I>
+Say, Thursday between 9:00 and 17:00 UTC (10 and 18 Paris time). I
+know Graham is more available early in the morning and some others are
+more available at the end of the day. Or we may hold two meetings.
+
+Please update your line here:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time</A> so
+we get an idea of everyone's availability. That will help to set a
+time where most people can be there, or to know how to split in two
+meetings if needed.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;3. we did not yet launch the communication team (willing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; contributors here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication</A> ); I wonder if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; we wouldn't better merge both teams (marketing+communication) to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; have those two especially in sync (as well as with an effort to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; sync with artwork &amp; some web devs);
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think marketing and communication belong together! let's go for it.
+</I>
+I believe it could help point 1. too, leaving some time to work on the
+project self-representation and communication to the outside (working
+on this effort then) and then looking forward on the prospective
+marketing side of things (by that, I mean, call to projects,
+prototypes, metrics usage, design, etc.).
+
+But that's really up to you as a team (and communication volunteers I
+will mail) to say if it's a good plan or not. That's an open point.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;4. who will be at FOSDEM in February? (5-6, in Brussels)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wish. Next one I'll be better organised - but, what do people need
+</I>&gt;<i> to have ready, that we can/should be doing? And, can we maybe work up
+</I>&gt;<i> a calendar of events, so we can be ready for them?
+</I>
+We will have some stickers and t-shirts already (Damien and Caroline
+are working on this). Misc is planning a talk about the fork, its
+organisation and some issues we faced. And we expect to hold a lot of
+bee^informal meetings.
+
+As for a calendar, Oliver Burger is working on checking the technical
+solution and we should have a running one in the next few weeks. In
+the meantime, a rough calendar of events (can be updated) is available
+from <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap</A> .
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+ <B>suikerstroop</B>
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+ I would like to know if there are Dutch or Flemish members involved in the
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+according to <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time</A>
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+&gt;<i> Ahoy!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> according to
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> we're still 3 to have put our time preferences and that would make
+</I>&gt;<i> a meeting between 15 and 18 UTC (Thursday?).
+</I>
+Done!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2011/1/10 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ahoy!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> according to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we're still 3 to have put our time preferences and that would make
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a meeting between 15 and 18 UTC (Thursday?).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Done!
+</I>
+Done
+
+May I remark that international i18n meetings are Thursdays 19:00 UTC,
+may be that some people are in both teams (Marcello? wobo)
+My weekly meeting schedule gets crowded anyway and I'm sure there are
+others with the same problem :)
+
+--
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> 2011/1/10 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Ahoy!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; according to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; we're still 3 to have put our time preferences and that would make
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; a meeting between 15 and 18 UTC (Thursday?).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Done!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Done
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> May I remark that international i18n meetings are Thursdays 19:00 UTC,
+</I>&gt;<i> may be that some people are in both teams (Marcello? wobo)
+</I>&gt;<i> My weekly meeting schedule gets crowded anyway and I'm sure there are
+</I>&gt;<i> others with the same problem :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>
+you're right : ) for me it is ok for 20:00 UTC then (a long-term chat meeting
+:<i> )
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+cheers,
+Marcello
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
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+There's a need for more native English speakers with good language
+skills to join the i18n team, to translate/proof/correct English
+translations done by non-native speakers, or to translate docs &amp;c
+from any and all languages.
+
+If you'd like to join the i18n team (all these things seem to go
+together - marketing, comms, documentation and i18n which is why
+this email is here), please add yourself here:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=translators">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=translators</A>
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+and join the i18n mailing list by sending a mail to
+
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-i18n-request at mageia.org</A>
+
+with the subject subscribe.
+
+We need to have at least two people so the i18n-en team can have a
+leader and a substitute 8-). More would be great!
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+ok, my bad, I didn't gather everyone here again before past Thursday,
+so trying once more.
+
+Given answers in the time table on the marketing wiki page, I will
+call for a IRC meeting on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom">irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom</A> on Thursday
+January 20th at 16:00 UTC (sorry for those that can't at this time, we
+may find a better time for later meetings).
+
+So, to discuss what? back to the above topics:
+ - marketing/communication teams merge, collaboration _and_ setup
+(having a set of temporary first contact/representative/leaders for
+the team, to animate and manage it)
+ - team(s) roadmap
+ - start discussing web editorial strategy
+ - start discussing about alpha release management later this month
+ - think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+ - discuss coming FOSDEM if people want
+ - other topic?
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+&gt;<i> Given answers in the time table on the marketing wiki page, I will
+</I>&gt;<i> call for a IRC meeting on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom">irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom</A> on Thursday
+</I>&gt;<i> January 20th at 16:00 UTC (sorry for those that can't at this time, we
+</I>&gt;<i> may find a better time for later meetings).
+</I>
+That is to say, on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom">irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom</A> (thanks to
+tallship for noticing).
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+Romain,
+
+That will work for me just fine. I'll see you then, and in the
+meantime, if anyone needs to get a hold of me you can email me or find
+me idling in #mageia-marcom.
+
+Real quick, and just to clarify. You did mean 16:00hrs UTC in
+#mageia-marcom on Freenode - not simply #marcom... correct?
+
+On 01/17/2011 01:40 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> ...I will
+</I>&gt;<i> call for a IRC meeting on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom">irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom</A> on Thursday
+</I>&gt;<i> January 20th at 16:00 UTC
+</I>
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ok, my bad, I didn't gather everyone here again before past Thursday,
+</I>&gt;<i> so trying once more.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Given answers in the time table on the marketing wiki page, I will
+</I>&gt;<i> call for a IRC meeting on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom">irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom</A> on Thursday
+</I>&gt;<i> January 20th at 16:00 UTC (sorry for those that can't at this time, we
+</I>&gt;<i> may find a better time for later meetings).
+</I>
+can't it be delayed one day? the 20th january i have an exam and i can't
+attend the chat session... if it is no possible i'll let you some ideas to
+discuss there
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+
+On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 19:52, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Given answers in the time table on the marketing wiki page, I will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> call for a IRC meeting on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom">irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom</A> on Thursday
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> January 20th at 16:00 UTC (sorry for those that can't at this time, we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> may find a better time for later meetings).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> can't it be delayed one day? the 20th january i have an exam and i can't
+</I>&gt;<i> attend the chat session...
+</I>
+We can discuss another time for another meeting but I really want to
+start this one asap, so I prefer to stick to Thursday.
+
+&gt;<i> if it is no possible i'll let you some ideas to
+</I>&gt;<i> discuss there
+</I>
+Please do then and good luck with your exam! :)
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz</B>
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+<PRE>Helo,
+
+Well i write here because i don tknow to who i shuld speak this. Here at
+Mexico, in fevrier, it will take place Enli 2011 www.enli.org.mx
+
+I got a conferece to present mageia. I wonder if someone has an already
+presentation i may translate to spanish to explain people what is mageia,
+whata are diferences between other distros, and mainly with mandriva. what is
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+On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 05:53, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Well i write here because i don tknow to who i shuld speak this. &#160;Here at
+</I>&gt;<i> Mexico, in &#160;fevrier, it will take place Enli 2011 www.enli.org.mx
+</I>
+Here's a good place.
+
+&gt;<i> I got a conferece to present mageia. &#160;I wonder if someone has an already
+</I>&gt;<i> presentation i may translate to spanish to explain people what is mageia,
+</I>&gt;<i> whata are diferences between other distros, and mainly with mandriva. &#160;what is
+</I>&gt;<i> our work and what do they can expect. &#160;1 hour of speaking.
+</I>
+Wow, that's lot! :-)
+
+Several of us are going to FOSDEM (5/6 Feb) and have first
+presentations there, we can share the presentation material here
+after, and build from that; I already did a quick one for a small
+group several weeks ago, but the slides/discourse have to be revised.
+
+Shall we discuss briefly about this at the meeting? (today, 15:00 UTC
+on #mageia-marcom on Freenode).
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 05:53, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I got a conferece to present mageia. &#160;I wonder if someone has an already
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> presentation i may translate to spanish to explain people what is mageia,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whata are diferences between other distros, and mainly with mandriva. &#160;what is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> our work and what do they can expect. &#160;1 hour of speaking.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wow, that's lot! :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Several of us are going to FOSDEM (5/6 Feb) and have first
+</I>&gt;<i> presentations there, we can share the presentation material here
+</I>&gt;<i> after, and build from that; I already did a quick one for a small
+</I>&gt;<i> group several weeks ago, but the slides/discourse have to be revised.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shall we discuss briefly about this at the meeting? (today, 15:00 UTC
+</I>&gt;<i> on #mageia-marcom on Freenode).
+</I>
+These opportunities will come to many of us.
+I will also have a conference slot of 1 hour for Mageia in Chemnitz,
+Germany in March.
+
+So, a small presentation, common for all, would be a good idea.
+ - a speaker at a conference can use it as the basis of his presentation
+ - add audio in your language and you can run it on a monitor at
+stands, working as eye-catcher
+ - add audio in your language and upload it to YouTube
+ - integrate the video on local Mageia websites
+ - more
+
+We can use the points of the &quot;Values&quot; page for a start.
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> Shall we discuss briefly about this at the meeting? (today, 15:00 UTC
+</I>&gt;<i> on #mageia-marcom on Freenode).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
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+The meeting is at 16:00 UTC.
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+&gt;<i> ok, my bad, I didn't gather everyone here again before past Thursday,
+</I>&gt;<i> so trying once more.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Given answers in the time table on the marketing wiki page, I will
+</I>&gt;<i> call for a IRC meeting on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom">irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom</A> on Thursday
+</I>&gt;<i> January 20th at 16:00 UTC (sorry for those that can't at this time, we
+</I>&gt;<i> may find a better time for later meetings).
+</I>
+Here are the notes:
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2011/mageia-marcom.2011-01-20-16.04.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2011/mageia-marcom.2011-01-20-16.04.html</A>
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+We reduced the topics to team setup, roadmaps, alpha release and
+marcom roadmap (more comm' than market maybe).
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+Hope to see you more next week! :-p (or find a better time again).
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+Cheers!
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here are the notes:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2011/mageia-marcom.2011-01-20-16.04.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2011/mageia-marcom.2011-01-20-16.04.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We reduced the topics to team setup, roadmaps, alpha release and
+</I>&gt;<i> marcom roadmap (more comm' than market maybe).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hope to see you more next week! :-p (or find a better time again).
+</I>
+An appointment took longer than expected, sorry.
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+I just posted several taglines in the #mageia-marcom chan. just
+brainstorming really, throwing ideas out there surrounding the play on
+words stemming from the etymology of our distro's name.
+
+Also, I address what I believe to be real significance in the Enli
+conference on 23/24/25 Feb 2kxi
+
+I invite, and indeed encourage, everyone to check the logs there for
+what I hope you will agree is very pertinent information regarding the
+adoption of our distro in Latin American, and what it will do for Mageia.
+
+I'm sorry, but I don't have a link to the channel logs. Only the meeting
+logs and my chan posts follow immediately after the meeting.
+
+BTW: The chan topic should prolly now be changed to reflect the
+forthcoming date of 27 Jan 2kxi, fyi ;)
+
+I had an all nighter onsite service call due to a client foopah, so
+couldn't make it back to my irc client in time for the meeting early
+this morning, but have read the entire transcript and also the abridged
+minutes from the meetbot, so I'm up to speed on everything covered in
+the meeting.
+
+See you next week :)
+
+- -tallship-
+
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+
+On 01/20/2011 02:43 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 05:53, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well i write here because i don tknow to who i shuld speak this. Here at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mexico, in fevrier, it will take place Enli 2011 www.enli.org.mx
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here's a good place.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I got a conferece to present mageia. I wonder if someone has an already
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> presentation i may translate to spanish to explain people what is mageia,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whata are diferences between other distros, and mainly with mandriva. what is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> our work and what do they can expect. 1 hour of speaking.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wow, that's lot! :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Several of us are going to FOSDEM (5/6 Feb) and have first
+</I>&gt;<i> presentations there, we can share the presentation material here
+</I>&gt;<i> after, and build from that; I already did a quick one for a small
+</I>&gt;<i> group several weeks ago, but the slides/discourse have to be revised.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shall we discuss briefly about this at the meeting? (today, 15:00 UTC
+</I>&gt;<i> on #mageia-marcom on Freenode).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 20 janvier 2011 14:23:09, Bradley D. Thornton a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I just posted several taglines in the #mageia-marcom chan. just
+</I>&gt;<i> brainstorming really, throwing ideas out there surrounding the play on
+</I>&gt;<i> words stemming from the etymology of our distro's name.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, I address what I believe to be real significance in the Enli
+</I>&gt;<i> conference on 23/24/25 Feb 2kxi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I invite, and indeed encourage, everyone to check the logs there for
+</I>&gt;<i> what I hope you will agree is very pertinent information regarding the
+</I>&gt;<i> adoption of our distro in Latin American, and what it will do for Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm sorry, but I don't have a link to the channel logs. Only the meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> logs and my chan posts follow immediately after the meeting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW: The chan topic should prolly now be changed to reflect the
+</I>&gt;<i> forthcoming date of 27 Jan 2kxi, fyi ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I had an all nighter onsite service call due to a client foopah, so
+</I>&gt;<i> couldn't make it back to my irc client in time for the meeting early
+</I>&gt;<i> this morning, but have read the entire transcript and also the abridged
+</I>&gt;<i> minutes from the meetbot, so I'm up to speed on everything covered in
+</I>&gt;<i> the meeting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See you next week :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -tallship-
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 01/20/2011 02:43 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 05:53, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Well i write here because i don tknow to who i shuld speak this. Here
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; at Mexico, in fevrier, it will take place Enli 2011 www.enli.org.mx
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Here's a good place.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I got a conferece to present mageia. I wonder if someone has an already
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; presentation i may translate to spanish to explain people what is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; mageia, whata are diferences between other distros, and mainly with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; mandriva. what is our work and what do they can expect. 1 hour of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; speaking.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Wow, that's lot! :-)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Several of us are going to FOSDEM (5/6 Feb) and have first
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; presentations there, we can share the presentation material here
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; after, and build from that; I already did a quick one for a small
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; group several weeks ago, but the slides/discourse have to be revised.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Shall we discuss briefly about this at the meeting? (today, 15:00 UTC
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on #mageia-marcom on Freenode).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+Where are logs, sorry i couldnt get into conference i was driving.
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+&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+</I>&gt;<i> I just posted several taglines in the #mageia-marcom chan. just
+</I>&gt;<i> brainstorming really, throwing ideas out there surrounding the play on
+</I>&gt;<i> words stemming from the etymology of our distro's name.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, I address what I believe to be real significance in the Enli
+</I>&gt;<i> conference on 23/24/25 Feb 2kxi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I invite, and indeed encourage, everyone to check the logs there for
+</I>&gt;<i> what I hope you will agree is very pertinent information regarding the
+</I>&gt;<i> adoption of our distro in Latin American, and what it will do for Mageia.
+</I>
+It is not a good idea to post something you want to use later to an
+IRC channel (outside of the logged meetings). If nobody has logged the
+channel by chance your ideas are lost. Such things should be better
+posted in the mailing list for future refference.
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+&gt;<i> Here are the notes:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2011/mageia-marcom.2011-01-20-16.04.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2011/mageia-marcom.2011-01-20-16.04.html</A>
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+Thanks to everyone who did all this! Sorry I couldn't be there - an
+hour either side and I would have been fine.
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+&gt;<i> We reduced the topics to team setup, roadmaps, alpha release and
+</I>&gt;<i> marcom roadmap (more comm' than market maybe).
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+Next week for sure (can we move it an hour either way?). See you on
+the wiki!
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 06:52, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Next week for sure (can we move it an hour either way?). See you on
+</I>&gt;<i> the wiki!
+</I>
+Sure, we can. (And I prefer). Next Thursday 15 UTC or 17 UTC?
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+problem as soon as the team gets a running pace and gets someone to
+represent it to the Council - any time and especially at the meeting
+on Mondays evening).
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+Plus, we may try to stick to the list to follow progress. Threads coming in.
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+<PRE>2011/1/21 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 06:52, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Next week for sure (can we move it an hour either way?). See you on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the wiki!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sure, we can. (And I prefer). Next Thursday 15 UTC or 17 UTC?
+</I>
+17:00 UTC may be too close to the i18n meeting, starting at 19:00 UTC.
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Next week for sure (can we move it an hour either way?). See you on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the wiki!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sure, we can. (And I prefer). Next Thursday 15 UTC or 17 UTC?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 17:00 UTC may be too close to the i18n meeting, starting at 19:00 UTC.
+</I>
+It's not too late for me - I'd like to do both meetings, so anything up to
+1800 UTC is fine. It's also good to have an inescapable end time 8-).
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+Cheers,
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 20 janvier 2011 16:20:38, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2011/1/20 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hash: RIPEMD160
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I just posted several taglines in the #mageia-marcom chan. just
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; brainstorming really, throwing ideas out there surrounding the play on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; words stemming from the etymology of our distro's name.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Also, I address what I believe to be real significance in the Enli
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; conference on 23/24/25 Feb 2kxi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I invite, and indeed encourage, everyone to check the logs there for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; what I hope you will agree is very pertinent information regarding the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; adoption of our distro in Latin American, and what it will do for Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is not a good idea to post something you want to use later to an
+</I>&gt;<i> IRC channel (outside of the logged meetings). If nobody has logged the
+</I>&gt;<i> channel by chance your ideas are lost. Such things should be better
+</I>&gt;<i> posted in the mailing list for future refference.
+</I>
+Yes, can you rewrite them here?
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+<PRE>hi there,
+i give you some proposals to discuss in the next meeting (next thursday for me
+it's ok):
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, to discuss what? back to the above topics:
+</I>&gt;<i> - marketing/communication teams merge, collaboration _and_ setup
+</I>&gt;<i> (having a set of temporary first contact/representative/leaders for
+</I>&gt;<i> the team, to animate and manage it)
+</I>&gt;<i> - team(s) roadmap
+</I>&gt;<i> - start discussing web editorial strategy
+</I> - easy translation system of every websites (to be decided together with
+i18n-list)
+&gt;<i> - start discussing about alpha release management later this month
+</I>&gt;<i> - think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+</I>&gt;<i> - discuss coming FOSDEM if people want
+</I>&gt;<i> - other topic?
+</I>- coming back to marketing strategy:
+ * vision creation
+ * mission creation
+ * slogan creation
+
+- start thinking to every means useful to promote mageia (youtube promotional
+videos, demonstration videos, creation of a well-organized wikipedia page
+etc..)
+
+- start thinking to a mageia version of mandriva-ideas page (to be renewed and
+improved)
+
+- status of web-services (+ldap implementation)-&gt;useful to a good brand and
+product promotion
+
+- election of a vice-leader (useful until graham will come back)
+
+- artwork status
+
+- necessary means to be in touch with other teams
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+Wow.
+
+Okay, it was just a couple of ideas I was throwing up in the air, but so
+everyone can have an opportunity to see... here ya go :)
+
+&lt;tallship&gt; flood coming...
+&lt;tallship&gt; We are a major point of call for the Free Software community
+in Mexico, Latin America and the world. Adem&#225;s de ser un lugar de
+acercamiento de nuevas personas al mundo fascinante de Linux y el Sw
+Libre, tambi&#233;n ofrecemos un espacio de participaci&#243;n en la b&#250;squeda de
+ideas y proyectos innovadores que consoliden al Software Libre como una
+herramienta de vanguardia para empresas, desarrolladores, estudiantes,
+profesores y p
+&lt;tallship&gt; ersonas involucradas con el uso, difusi&#243;n y desarrollo de
+software. Besides being a place to approach new people to the
+fascinating world of Linux and Free Sw also offer a forum for
+participation in the search for innovative ideas and projects that
+strengthen the Free Software as a cutting-edge tool for businesses,
+developers, students , teachers and people involved with the use,
+dissemination and development of software.
+&lt;tallship&gt; in terms of numbers of attendees, it may not seem all that
+significant, but the speakers list typically looks like a who's who of
+FOSS and other ares of the industry with some big players.
+&lt;tallship&gt; They expect about 750 attendees, yet the media coverage is
+going to be significant.
+&lt;tallship&gt; He's got an hour - that's a long time. He's going to need a
+translated version of the slide show, and perhaps a demonstration w/a
+[hopefully] new look to some of the tools intrinsic to Mandrake/Mandriva
+as they are incarnated in Mageia would be a good thing.
+&lt;tallship&gt; I think it's perfect timing wrt our Alpha release - it will
+have occurred.
+&lt;tallship&gt; I think it's an even better date since we will have our
+first, maybe second alpha out w/our April 2kx1 release on schedule, and
+be able to tout this to the media at the conference.
+&lt;tallship&gt; 23, 24, and 25 February 2011 are the dates.
+&lt;tallship&gt; I think that what is most important, is that we have
+representation in attendance with a speaker (1hr - that's great!). This
+convention goes a long way toward how the waters flow in Mexico and
+South America.
+&lt;tallship&gt; Such adoption is critical in those parts of the world where
+specialized regional Linux Distributions have been the predominant
+distros for a few years now.
+&lt;tallship&gt; A truly global Linux Distro - i.e., Mageia - translates into
+easy integration and operability in multi-national companies (and
+universities adopting its usage does this too).
+&lt;tallship&gt; If we can make a big splash in Latin America, this also
+results in assimilation of the technology (meaning, the Mageia Linux
+distro) further north in the United States where there are (you fill in
+the blank here) xxxx million Spanish speaking citizens, residents, and
+students in the potential user base.
+&lt;tallship&gt; On another note: as far as slogans, one liners, I've got a
+few ideas stemming from the etymology of the word 'Mageia'...
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;Mageia! It's Like Magic!
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;The Magic of Mageia&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;Wield the Magic in Mageia&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;There's Magic in Mageia&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;It's all in the magic. Mageia Linux&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;Harness the Magic of Linux with Mageia&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;Mageia - It's Magic in the Enterprise&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;The Magic of Mageia&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;Mageia Magic - at home in the Enterprise&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;Mageia! It's Magic!&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;Unleash the Magic of Mageia&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;The Magic of Mageia&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;Mageia. It's Magic&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; you get the idea ;)
+* tallship is afk
+
+On 01/21/2011 07:40 AM, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 20 janvier 2011 16:20:38, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/1/20 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just posted several taglines in the #mageia-marcom chan. just
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> brainstorming really, throwing ideas out there surrounding the play on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> words stemming from the etymology of our distro's name.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Also, I address what I believe to be real significance in the Enli
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> conference on 23/24/25 Feb 2kxi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I invite, and indeed encourage, everyone to check the logs there for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> what I hope you will agree is very pertinent information regarding the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> adoption of our distro in Latin American, and what it will do for Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is not a good idea to post something you want to use later to an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IRC channel (outside of the logged meetings). If nobody has logged the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> channel by chance your ideas are lost. Such things should be better
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> posted in the mailing list for future refference.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, can you rewrite them here?
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+I would prefer 17:00hrs UTC (18:00hrs would be even better).
+
+On 01/21/2011 01:06 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 06:52, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Next week for sure (can we move it an hour either way?). See you on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the wiki!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sure, we can. (And I prefer). Next Thursday 15 UTC or 17 UTC?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (I won't be able to attend any day past 18:00 UTC, but that's not a
+</I>&gt;<i> problem as soon as the team gets a running pace and gets someone to
+</I>&gt;<i> represent it to the Council - any time and especially at the meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> on Mondays evening).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Plus, we may try to stick to the list to follow progress. Threads coming in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 16:44, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> i give you some proposals to discuss in the next meeting (next thursday for me
+</I>&gt;<i> it's ok):
+</I>
+Actually, the more we go further, the more I'd like we try to get rid
+of meetings (or use them sparringly just for quick votes on decisions
+layed out on the list before with stakeholders) and get the team
+driven by actions and deadlines, using the list as a common meeting
+point.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- marketing/communication teams merge, collaboration _and_ setup
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (having a set of temporary first contact/representative/leaders for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the team, to animate and manage it)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- team(s) roadmap
+</I>
+See the meeting logs about this.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- start discussing web editorial strategy
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;- easy translation system of every websites (to be decided together with
+</I>&gt;<i> i18n-list)
+</I>
+Discussing on i18n started it seems :-)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- start discussing about alpha release management later this month
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- discuss coming FOSDEM if people want
+</I>
+See the above meeting notes too.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- other topic?
+</I>&gt;<i> - coming back to marketing strategy:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* vision creation
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* mission creation
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* slogan creation
+</I>
+Some work was started in this regard and it may be usesul to start it over.
+
+&gt;<i> - start thinking to every means useful to promote mageia (youtube promotional
+</I>&gt;<i> videos, demonstration videos, creation of a well-organized wikipedia page
+</I>&gt;<i> etc..)
+</I>
+Yep.
+
+&gt;<i> - start thinking to a mageia version of mandriva-ideas page (to be renewed and
+</I>&gt;<i> improved)
+</I>&gt;<i> - status of web-services (+ldap implementation)-&gt;useful to a good brand and
+</I>&gt;<i> product promotion
+</I>
+These require either more time either more contributors either more
+(full time) contributors than we have at this time (no way we start
+the ideas app before we closed the
+bugzilla/maintdb/forum/wiki/epoll/calendar steps).
+
+&gt;<i> - election of a vice-leader (useful until graham will come back)
+</I>
+There is no leader in the team yet, so with all respect due to graham
+and his great investment from the first day, team leader, deputy
+leader and representative places are still open. And for an election
+to happen needs team peers to be named (those who can vote/be
+elected).
+
+&gt;<i> - artwork status
+</I>
+ * logo refinements/experiments in progress - some collector tshirts
+will be available (on sale) at FOSDEM hopefully + stickers (collector,
+because it's not the final logo that's printed on it)
+ * packages artwork replacement almost started, which tasks is
+blocking for the alpha release
+
+&gt;<i> - necessary means to be in touch with other teams
+</I>
+What do you suggest? Email, lists and IRC is mostly the most used at
+this time. I fear the forum won't be an option to have everyone agree
+on (it's only a complementary thing).
+
+As these make for very different topics, it would be good to have them
+listed on the marketing page and, if to discuss those more
+specifically, start a distinct thread.
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>Le samedi 22 janvier 2011 06:46:05, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 16:44, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i give you some proposals to discuss in the next meeting (next thursday
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for me
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it's ok):
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, the more we go further, the more I'd like we try to get rid
+</I>&gt;<i> of meetings (or use them sparringly just for quick votes on decisions
+</I>&gt;<i> layed out on the list before with stakeholders) and get the team
+</I>&gt;<i> driven by actions and deadlines, using the list as a common meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> point.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - marketing/communication teams merge, collaboration _and_ setup
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (having a set of temporary first contact/representative/leaders for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the team, to animate and manage it)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - team(s) roadmap
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See the meeting logs about this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - start discussing web editorial strategy
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - easy translation system of every websites (to be decided
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; together with i18n-list)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Discussing on i18n started it seems :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - start discussing about alpha release management later this month
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - discuss coming FOSDEM if people want
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See the above meeting notes too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - other topic?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - coming back to marketing strategy:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * vision creation
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * mission creation
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * slogan creation
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some work was started in this regard and it may be usesul to start it over.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - start thinking to every means useful to promote mageia (youtube
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; promotional videos, demonstration videos, creation of a well-organized
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wikipedia page etc..)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - start thinking to a mageia version of mandriva-ideas page (to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; renewed and improved)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - status of web-services (+ldap implementation)-&gt;useful to a good brand
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and product promotion
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> These require either more time either more contributors either more
+</I>&gt;<i> (full time) contributors than we have at this time (no way we start
+</I>&gt;<i> the ideas app before we closed the
+</I>&gt;<i> bugzilla/maintdb/forum/wiki/epoll/calendar steps).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - election of a vice-leader (useful until graham will come back)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no leader in the team yet, so with all respect due to graham
+</I>&gt;<i> and his great investment from the first day, team leader, deputy
+</I>&gt;<i> leader and representative places are still open. And for an election
+</I>&gt;<i> to happen needs team peers to be named (those who can vote/be
+</I>&gt;<i> elected).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - artwork status
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * logo refinements/experiments in progress - some collector tshirts
+</I>&gt;<i> will be available (on sale) at FOSDEM hopefully + stickers (collector,
+</I>&gt;<i> because it's not the final logo that's printed on it)
+</I>&gt;<i> * packages artwork replacement almost started, which tasks is
+</I>&gt;<i> blocking for the alpha release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - necessary means to be in touch with other teams
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you suggest? Email, lists and IRC is mostly the most used at
+</I>&gt;<i> this time. I fear the forum won't be an option to have everyone agree
+</I>&gt;<i> on (it's only a complementary thing).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As these make for very different topics, it would be good to have them
+</I>&gt;<i> listed on the marketing page and, if to discuss those more
+</I>&gt;<i> specifically, start a distinct thread.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+Please decide, i will be there :)
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2011/1/22 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, the more we go further, the more I'd like we try to get rid
+</I>&gt;<i> of meetings (or use them sparringly just for quick votes on decisions
+</I>&gt;<i> layed out on the list before with stakeholders) and get the team
+</I>&gt;<i> driven by actions and deadlines, using the list as a common meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> point.
+</I>
+The example of Bradley and his ideas (which almost got lost because
+they were given on irc) told us that IRC is a short-lived medium and
+we all want to be able to go back and refer to something somebody
+wrote 100 years ago. So I support this idea to:
+
+ - do all discussions in the mailing lists
+ - reduce meeting schedule (those who are members of several teams
+will love this)
+ - hold meetings only to do final decisions about topics we discussed
+in the ml before (in general)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - coming back to marketing strategy:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* vision creation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* mission creation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* slogan creation
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some work was started in this regard and it may be usesul to start it over.
+</I>
+I may remind you of the &quot;values&quot; page which should give much
+input/inspiration about these points.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - start thinking to every means useful to promote mageia (youtube promotional
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> videos, demonstration videos, creation of a well-organized wikipedia page
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> etc..)
+</I>
+One essential part to promote something is &quot;Keeping us in the news&quot; -
+which means &quot;visibility&quot; of the name.
+More about that in an extra thread.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - election of a vice-leader (useful until graham will come back)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no leader in the team yet, so with all respect due to graham
+</I>&gt;<i> and his great investment from the first day, team leader, deputy
+</I>&gt;<i> leader and representative places are still open. And for an election
+</I>&gt;<i> to happen needs team peers to be named (those who can vote/be
+</I>&gt;<i> elected).
+</I>
++1
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - necessary means to be in touch with other teams
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you suggest? Email, lists and IRC is mostly the most used at
+</I>&gt;<i> this time. I fear the forum won't be an option to have everyone agree
+</I>&gt;<i> on (it's only a complementary thing).
+</I>
+So, let's keep the mailing lists.
+Not to repeat a problem at Mandriva where forum people and ml people
+were almost 2 different worlds we will have to deal with a
+communication bridge between the forum people and the ml people - this
+may be a task for the forum moderator team (or others)
+
+--
+wobo
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>One essential part to promote something is &quot;Keep it in the news&quot; -
+which means &quot;visibility&quot; of the name.
+
+This is a task which needs the cooperation of several teams and people:
+
+1. All teamleaders and board/council should continuously report about
+their work in the blog
+
+2. MarCom can create a regular newsletter, subscription form should be
+on the portal page of the Mageia website
+ - newsletter editor(s) can gather information from all parts of the
+project, including local communities.
+ - after compilation the newsletter should be translated by team
+members of i18n language teams (at Mandriva we had a web interface for
+that)
+ - local communities can advertize the newsletter in their language
+
+3. Local communities or members of the i18n language teams can contact
+the media (news sites, print magazines) in their languages
+ - keep those contacts alive by sending regular &quot;news flashes&quot;
+ - compile articles &amp; reviews about Mageia and send them in to the editors
+
+4. Major news &amp; press releases (releases, participation at major
+events, etc.) should be compiled, sent to the i18n language teams for
+translation and then sent away all together at the same time to
+newsletter subscribers, press contacts, news sites, etc.
+ - a news flash / announcement which hits the public everywhere at the
+same time has more impact than the same news spread over a period of
+time.
+
+
+Whatever we do, all this should sum up to a continuous flow.
+
+ - regular visibility of the name engraves the name in the mind of the readers
+ - covering a large part of the world (each area in their own
+language) generates an even larger spreading of the contents.
+
+Whatever we do, we should do it together inside a system of cooperation
+ - a system of compiling and spreading is much more effective than
+single activities (which does not mean that such single activities
+should not occur besides the whole system).
+
+As a long time contributor in this field I remember that we had such a
+setup at Mandrakesoft (organized and maintained by Ga&#235;l Duval &amp; Kadjo
+N'Doua, long time ago). It was good and we can do it as well (or
+better!).
+
+--
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+this thread, to discuss Mageia first alpha release communication plan
+(that's not a huge thing, but it's important).
+
+The alpha is expected before the end of January, although we are a bit
+short; while we don't have an excellent progress reporting discipline
+yet, you can see bits of it here: <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/</A> ; the
+process at hand here is to bootstrap the distribution, that is,
+package and build all required software to have a minimal running
+system that, in turn, will allow to build a working set of packages to
+get to the ISO (that, in itself, would be a great topic to post; any
+volunteer?).
+
+However, packaging is not all, it has to produce a somewhat working
+ISO; we need too to finish to cleanup critical packages from
+references to Mandriva-owned, unlicensed artwork. Among other things.
+
+So although that's not desirable, we may slip out of the intended
+date; it's not a deadly sin, however we already slipped from past
+December to this January.
+
+Anyway. This alpha release is:
+ * our first technical alpha ISO, demonstrating our buildsystem and
+packaging team readiness;
+ * intended to developers, packagers, testers and contributors;
+ * to be expected to be ugly, have non-functioning or broken parts;
+ * our first milestone with a clean package tree.
+
+It is NOT:
+ * for use;
+ * for evaluation outside of a technical, contributor point of view;
+ * in a final, working state;
+ * for end-user review.
+
+Provided that there are great expectations on our project, it may be
+good to have a very explicit name for the release; not only &quot;Mageia
+Alpha 1&quot; but maybe something more along the &quot;Mageia Alpha 1 -
+developers preview&quot; or &quot;developers release&quot; or something else.
+
+So it may be a great occasion to (re)present the project, technical
+parts of it on one side and governance/org parts on the other side.
+But the focus is really to push the right message for the ISO.
+
+What to expect next to this alpha? We have this rough list of specs:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_0_specifications">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_0_specifications</A> but we need to
+sort it out better (per milestone) and make it more clear what each
+step has. We'll discuss of this too during coming Monday Council
+meeting, so if a few of the team could attend it or at least have a
+look on the notes, that would be great.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+Hi Wolfgang,
+
+It really depends on the particular needs of any activity, yet I'm a big
+proponent for the consolodation of many projects between email lists and
+forums, as it relates to the preferences of the participants.
+
+This provides a choice for the participant, native to their respective
+comfort zones, without breaking either medium, and without forcing
+someone to adopt one medium or the other in order to participate in the
+discussions.
+
+pls see additional comments below...
+
+On 01/24/2011 02:54 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, let's keep the mailing lists.
+</I>&gt;<i> Not to repeat a problem at Mandriva where forum people and ml people
+</I>&gt;<i> were almost 2 different worlds we will have to deal with a
+</I>&gt;<i> communication bridge between the forum people and the ml people - this
+</I>&gt;<i> may be a task for the forum moderator team (or others)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+I can't speak to the web based infrastructure we're using at the moment,
+or what we might do in that regard, however, here's a solution that has
+worked well for me whenever I need such a merge between mediums.
+
+<A HREF="http://drupal.org/node/40777">http://drupal.org/node/40777</A>
+
+There are, of course, other methodologies. I would suggest that whatever
+we decide upon, that it integrates seamlessly so that:
+
+1.) mailing list posts end up in the forum
+
+2.) forum posts end up on the mailing list
+
+3.) we archive everything at one of the major email archive sites AS
+WELL as GMANE.
+
+Hope that helps :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+
+- --
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It really depends on the particular needs of any activity, yet I'm a big
+</I>&gt;<i> proponent for the consolodation of many projects between email lists and
+</I>&gt;<i> forums, as it relates to the preferences of the participants.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This provides a choice for the participant, native to their respective
+</I>&gt;<i> comfort zones, without breaking either medium, and without forcing
+</I>&gt;<i> someone to adopt one medium or the other in order to participate in the
+</I>&gt;<i> discussions.
+</I>
+Yes, I am aware of the need to cater to 2 worlds, we discussed this
+many times at length at Mandriva and again in the beginning of Mageia.
+There is already a list2forum gateway in place, created and maintained
+by tux99
+<A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
+
+Whether this is temporary or not, we will see. Gmane has turned out to
+be unreliable, as reported in some mails. I myself experienced serious
+lags with Gmane (mails turned up in Gmane hours later).
+
+We have our own list archives at <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/&lt;name">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/&lt;name</A> of list&gt;
+
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+On 01/24/2011 01:04 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> There is already a list2forum gateway in place, created and maintained
+</I>&gt;<i> by tux99
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
+</I>
+Oh, sweet! He's using FudForum - one of my favs and stable as all getup!
+
+Romain, don't you think we should have a link to the forum on the wiki page?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Whether this is temporary or not, we will see.
+</I>
+Yes, The last messages are from November, while other lists are as
+current as today.
+
+I think we need to address this issue (With *tux99* ???).
+
+Also, as it is pointed out at the link above, One is still required to
+subscribe to the mailing list in order for their forum posts to
+propagate to the list.
+
+I see this as an ideal solution, Wolfgang, to the problem you brought up
+about the lists/forums ending up almost split into two different sets of
+subscribers.
+
+We need to make sure that we consolodate all of our marcom resources
+into a single pool of people instead of allowing it to splinter, based
+on the communications medium that someone prefers.
+
+This gateway will solve that problem, and AFAIC, FudForum is much nicer
+than PhpBB anyway.
+
+I've built many of both, and I just don't have the problems w/FudForum
+that I do with PhpBB.
+
+Gmane has turned out to
+&gt;<i> be unreliable, as reported in some mails. I myself experienced serious
+</I>&gt;<i> lags with Gmane (mails turned up in Gmane hours later).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have our own list archives at <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/&lt;name">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/&lt;name</A> of list&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.760.666.2703 (US)
+TEL: +44.702.405.1909 (UK)
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+<PRE>2011/1/24 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 01/24/2011 01:04 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is already a list2forum gateway in place, created and maintained
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> by tux99
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oh, sweet! He's using FudForum - one of my favs and &#160;stable as all getup!
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain, don't you think we should have a link to the forum on the wiki page?
+</I>
+It is not a Mageia activity. I don't know...
+
+&gt;<i> Yes, The last messages are from November, while other lists are as
+</I>&gt;<i> current as today.
+</I>
+The old messages are in a section of that forum, not related to the
+lists, as much as I have seen.
+
+&gt;<i> Also, as it is pointed out at the link above, One is still required to
+</I>&gt;<i> subscribe to the mailing list in order for their forum posts to
+</I>&gt;<i> propagate to the list.
+</I>
+Yes. We have a web gui where you can subscribe to the lists:
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/</A>
+
+&gt;<i> We need to make sure that we consolodate all of our marcom resources
+</I>&gt;<i> into a single pool of people instead of allowing it to splinter, based
+</I>&gt;<i> on the communications medium that someone prefers.
+</I>
+As you can see all these lists are platforms of contributors. The
+forum will be mostly for userland but as we have seen at Mandriva we
+need a bridge between these entities.
+
+&gt;<i> I've built many of both, and I just don't have the problems w/FudForum
+</I>&gt;<i> that I do with PhpBB.
+</I>
+Again, your mileage may differ. I have been running phpBB3 with
+MandrivaUser.de for a year now, no problems at all + it is easy to
+customize + it plays nicely with LDAP, which is essential.
+
+But I think the (technical) forum people can say more about this.
+
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+On 01/24/2011 02:14 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/1/24 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 01/24/2011 01:04 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There is already a list2forum gateway in place, created and maintained
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> by tux99
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oh, sweet! He's using FudForum - one of my favs and stable as all getup!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Romain, don't you think we should have a link to the forum on the wiki page?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is not a Mageia activity. I don't know...
+</I>
+
+Well to finalize this consolodation we'll either need a commitment from
+*tux99* to continue to provide forum services for our marcom lists or
+we'll need to implement a new forum that is integrated w/the marcom
+email lists.
+
+I would be happy either way, and at this point it appears as if we're
+supported w/the FudForum implementation at <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum</A>
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, The last messages are from November, while other lists are as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> current as today.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The old messages are in a section of that forum, not related to the
+</I>&gt;<i> lists, as much as I have seen.
+</I>
+Oh, so it's never been integrated w/a forum&lt;==&gt;list gateway?
+
+That would expalain why I don't see any messages from the list :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also, as it is pointed out at the link above, One is still required to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> subscribe to the mailing list in order for their forum posts to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> propagate to the list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes. We have a web gui where you can subscribe to the lists:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/</A>
+</I>
+That's not what I was referring to. Most forum software, when you
+implement an email list gateway, requires you to register in the forums
+with the same email address (This FudForum implementation is no
+different, as per the instructions there) that you are subscribed to the
+email list(s) with.
+
+So, if I'm subscribed to an email list as '<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">billg at msn.com</A>', then I need
+to be registered with the forum software as having the same email
+address - otherwise, my posts won't show up on the email list.
+
+This is a security feature, and it's not recommended to change this
+(although one could). It prevents people not subscribed to the email
+list that are registered with the forum software from posting into one
+of the gateway'ed forums and those posts ending up on the email list(s).
+
+Right now I'm waiting for my forum subscription to be approved so I can
+begin testing to see if it works.
+
+Basically, most *Mailman* email listservers URLs can be found at
+<A HREF="http://SLD.TLD/mailman/listinfo">http://SLD.TLD/mailman/listinfo</A> - this is the case with Mageia, which
+follows the standard vanilla install.
+
+You'll typically only see different URLs on shared hosting services
+where, for example, cPanel/WHM are implemented.
+
+
+&gt;<i> As you can see all these lists are platforms of contributors. The
+</I>&gt;<i> forum will be mostly for userland but as we have seen at Mandriva we
+</I>&gt;<i> need a bridge between these entities.
+</I>
+I'm not sure I understand what you mean by, &quot;...these lists are
+platforms of contributors.&quot;
+
+I don't see that. From what I see, there is only one Mailman Listserver,
+located at <A HREF="http://mageia.org/mailman/listinfo,">http://mageia.org/mailman/listinfo,</A> and checking the RFC
+headers from mails I'm receiving from various lists I'm subscribed to
+there reveals (certainly appears) that it is a single instance of a
+Mailman listerver installed.
+
+All the (various) list mailings I'm receiving are coming from the same
+MX severs.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've built many of both, and I just don't have the problems w/FudForum
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that I do with PhpBB.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Again, your mileage may differ. I have been running phpBB3 with
+</I>&gt;<i> MandrivaUser.de for a year now, no problems at all + it is easy to
+</I>&gt;<i> customize + it plays nicely with LDAP, which is essential.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But I think the (technical) forum people can say more about this.
+</I>
+Yes, I've been building and hosting various services for more than a
+couple of decades, and I've seen forum software come and go. PhpBB is
+nice, and full featured, yet since it is the most popular, there have
+been more exploits revealed for it, requiring us to perform more than
+the usual amount of patches and upgrades in keeping it secure.
+
+wrt both PhpBB and FudForum, I've only had to apply a security patch
+twice for FudForum, and more than 15 patches or upgrades to PhpBB over
+the span of the last decade or so.
+
+Regardless, they're both good, as long as you maintain them and
+subscribe to the security lists so you can apply timely patches.
+
+It doesn't matter to me which one we use, and there are many other fine
+forum packages out there as well....
+
+But, if the existing one's are going to be a pain to administer, or are
+too hard for n00bs to find, then I would suggest we implement this with
+our existing hosting solutions on the mageia.org domain.
+
+Irrespective of which solution(s) we opt for, having the link to both
+the mailing list(s) as well as the forum(s) on the marcom wiki page is
+important, since that is the central point of entrance and information
+for our group's activities.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.760.666.2703 (US)
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+<PRE>2011/1/25 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well to finalize this consolodation we'll either need a commitment from
+</I>&gt;<i> *tux99* to continue to provide forum services for our marcom lists or
+</I>&gt;<i> we'll need to implement a new forum that is integrated w/the marcom
+</I>&gt;<i> email lists.
+</I>
+If we will have such a gateway it will be for all mailing lists, not
+just the marcom list.
+
+&gt;<i> Oh, so it's never been integrated w/a forum&lt;==&gt;list gateway?
+</I>&gt;<i> That would expalain why I don't see any messages from the list :)
+</I>
+As you can see all other lists are up-to-date, only marketing and
+artwork are not. I don't know why, I think you have to ask tux99. I
+don't know his activities at the moment.
+
+&gt;<i> That's not what I was referring to. Most forum software, when you
+</I>&gt;<i> implement an email list gateway, requires you to register in the forums
+</I>&gt;<i> with the same email address (This FudForum implementation is no
+</I>&gt;<i> different, as per the instructions there) that you are subscribed to the
+</I>&gt;<i> email list(s) with.
+</I>
+This gateway we are talking about is not a Mageia activity, as I said.
+The mailing list system is a Mageia activity. The relation between
+them was made by tux99, not by Mageia sysadmin group. So I can't say
+anything about that.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> As you can see all these lists are platforms of contributors. The
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> forum will be mostly for userland but as we have seen at Mandriva we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> need a bridge between these entities.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by, &quot;...these lists are
+</I>&gt;<i> platforms of contributors.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't see that. From what I see, there is only one Mailman Listserver,
+</I>&gt;<i> located at <A HREF="http://mageia.org/mailman/listinfo,">http://mageia.org/mailman/listinfo,</A> and checking the RFC
+</I>&gt;<i> headers from mails I'm receiving from various lists I'm subscribed to
+</I>&gt;<i> there reveals (certainly appears) that it is a single instance of a
+</I>&gt;<i> Mailman listerver installed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All the (various) list mailings I'm receiving are coming from the same
+</I>&gt;<i> MX severs.
+</I>
+Yes, right. I don't understand how this is related with what I wrote.
+I wanted to express that the maling lists are the communication
+platforms of the contributors of Mageia, the sysadmin team, the
+marketing and communication teams, the artwork team, etc. and the
+general -discuss list for all. As it looks by now everybody is ok with
+this setup.
+
+Forums will be implemented as well (on forums.mageia.org), it will
+possibly turn out that they will mostly be used by users of Mageia to
+find support and get together. This is the usual way. So we will need
+such a gateway to the mailing lists, so that forum users are able to
+follow mailing list discussions and we will not have the same split
+between the 2 worlds as at Mandriva.
+
+&gt;<i> wrt both PhpBB and FudForum, I've only had to apply a security patch
+</I>&gt;<i> twice for FudForum, and more than 15 patches or upgrades to PhpBB &#160;over
+</I>&gt;<i> the span of the last decade or so.
+</I>
+This is a continuous discussion among all the related people: which is
+a better system, one that finds many weak points and fixes them
+immediately or one that finds few weak points and fixes them
+occasionally :)
+
+&gt;<i> But, if the existing one's are going to be a pain to administer, or are
+</I>&gt;<i> too hard for n00bs to find, then I would suggest we implement this with
+</I>&gt;<i> our existing hosting solutions on the mageia.org domain.
+</I>
+How problematic a forum is to administer is the administrator's task
+to find out. They will administer forums.mageia.org.
+How easily people will find the forum is the webteam's task. It has to
+be found with one click from the place where visitors of Mageia start
+- the portal page of the Mageia website. Any place in the wiki would
+be not a good idea.
+
+But I am not sure if we are talking about the same issues here.
+
+--
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+On 01/24/2011 05:34 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This gateway we are talking about is not a Mageia activity, as I said.
+</I>&gt;<i> The mailing list system is a Mageia activity. The relation between
+</I>&gt;<i> them was made by tux99, not by Mageia sysadmin group. So I can't say
+</I>&gt;<i> anything about that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Okay I see what you were saying now :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Forums will be implemented as well (on forums.mageia.org), it will
+</I>&gt;<i> possibly turn out that they will mostly be used by users of Mageia to
+</I>&gt;<i> find support and get together. This is the usual way. So we will need
+</I>&gt;<i> such a gateway to the mailing lists, so that forum users are able to
+</I>&gt;<i> follow mailing list discussions and we will not have the same split
+</I>&gt;<i> between the 2 worlds as at Mandriva.
+</I>
+Yes this is what I was hoping would be the plan to implement.
+
+&gt;<i> How easily people will find the forum is the webteam's task. It has to
+</I>&gt;<i> be found with one click from the place where visitors of Mageia start
+</I>&gt;<i> - the portal page of the Mageia website. Any place in the wiki would
+</I>&gt;<i> be not a good idea.
+</I>
+Oh yeah, that's right the Wiki says it's only temporary :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But I am not sure if we are talking about the same issues here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think so. The discussion was about providing a gateway between forums
+and mail lists, although my original understanding was that wrt the
+marcom group, there had been issues of splintering in the past as a
+result of people's preferences for either one communications medium or
+the other, until there were almost two distinct groups.
+
+I feel it's a good idea to extend that gateway capability to the other
+discussion groups as well, as you suggest.
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.760.666.2703 (US)
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+<PRE>2011/1/25 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Forums will be implemented as well (on forums.mageia.org), it will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> possibly turn out that they will mostly be used by users of Mageia to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> find support and get together. This is the usual way. So we will need
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> such a gateway to the mailing lists, so that forum users are able to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> follow mailing list discussions and we will not have the same split
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> between the 2 worlds as at Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes this is what I was hoping would be the plan to implement.
+</I>
+This is not a plan, these are my individual thoughts.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> How easily people will find the forum is the webteam's task. It has to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be found with one click from the place where visitors of Mageia start
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - the portal page of the Mageia website. Any place in the wiki would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be not a good idea.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oh yeah, that's right the Wiki says it's only temporary :)
+</I>
+Yes, but that is not the reason. We will have a permanent wiki.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But I am not sure if we are talking about the same issues here.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think so. The discussion was about providing a gateway between forums
+</I>&gt;<i> and mail lists, although my original understanding was that wrt the
+</I>&gt;<i> marcom group, there had been issues of splintering in the past as a
+</I>&gt;<i> result of people's preferences for either one communications medium or
+</I>&gt;<i> the other, until there were almost two distinct groups.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I feel it's a good idea to extend that gateway capability to the other
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion groups as well, as you suggest.
+</I>
+It is available for the other mailing lists, it's not working for the
+marketing list. I wrote, that I do not know the reason because this
+gateway was not setup by Mageia.
+
+--
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+&gt;<i> &gt; - necessary means to be in touch with other teams
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you suggest? Email, lists and IRC is mostly the most used at
+</I>&gt;<i> this time. I fear the forum won't be an option to have everyone agree
+</I>&gt;<i> on (it's only a complementary thing).
+</I>
+i think a new mailing list called something similar to &quot;mageia-together&quot; could
+be useful to treat only multi-teams topics (e.g. choose the release date of
+Mageia, choose the localisation system for web services and so on)
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As these make for very different topics, it would be good to have them
+</I>&gt;<i> listed on the marketing page and, if to discuss those more
+</I>&gt;<i> specifically, start a distinct thread.
+</I>
+is up to you, anyone who want to deepen some aspects can open a new discussion
+here
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - necessary means to be in touch with other teams
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What do you suggest? Email, lists and IRC is mostly the most used at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this time. I fear the forum won't be an option to have everyone agree
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on (it's only a complementary thing).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i think a new mailing list called something similar to &quot;mageia-together&quot; could
+</I>&gt;<i> be useful to treat only multi-teams topics (e.g. choose the release date of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia, choose the localisation system for web services and so on)
+</I>
+No need to open yet another list for that: you either use -discuss,
+either get the topic hosted on the most relevant list where most of
+the committed people are subscribed.
+
+For instance, web services are most likely to happen on webteam or
+i18n or sysadmin, depending on the focus of the discussion. Release
+date decision is a matter for the Council or the Board (because it
+requires roadmap adequacy and synchronization with all teams
+progress), but this of course would be discussed/publicized on
+-discuss (and other means).
+
+
+Romain
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+
+planet.mageia.org is an old discussion (started in September (mostly
+IRL) when we installed blogs).
+It's an important website to spread Mageia and an aggregator about the
+project.
+
+As previously discussed on IRC or IRL, we have analyzed the different
+web based aggregator platforms we known:
+- planetplanet (<A HREF="http://www.planetplanet.org/">http://www.planetplanet.org/</A>)
+- planet venus (<A HREF="http://intertwingly.net/code/venus/">http://intertwingly.net/code/venus/</A>)
+
+Then, we met Pascal Chevrel, from Mozilla Europe, in November, and
+discussed on a lot of things.
+He explained us how they were managing the Mozilla Europe Planet and
+made us discovered moonmoon (<A HREF="http://moonmoon.org">http://moonmoon.org</A>).
+This platform fits all our requirements: &quot;Moonmoon is stupidly simple&quot;
+(no DB, no comments, no votes, flat files, ...)
+
+We expect to install this web based agregator on &quot;champagne&quot; to start
+ASAP the Mageia Planet.
+
+For know, we thought, for agregatted blogs on it, of the following
+rules:
+- anyone who asks for it
+- who is peer in a team
+- only post with a Mageia tag will appear on the planet.
+
+What do you think about all of this? Any comments or remarks?
+Thank you for the feedback.
+
+Cheers,
+--
+Damien Lallement
+aka &quot;damsweb&quot; or &quot;coincoin&quot; on IRC and twitter
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+ <B>Adjamilton J&#250;nior</B>
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+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think about all of this? Any comments or remarks?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I thinks that is a good idea and very necessary.
+I agree with the rules.
+I don't know about Moonmoon software but I'll see about this.
+
+
+A. J&#250;nior
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+
+Since several days, I have been seeing people promoting Mageia to
+beginners and telling them they will be able to try Mageia within few weeks.
+
+
+Someone told me that &quot;if the packages rebuild phase has begun, that
+would mean that the system is working&quot;.
+I answered him that between the rebuild phase and a live version, there
+is a huge step.
+He asked me whether the time between the rebuild phase and the release
+of a live version was about several months or several weeks.
+I pasted him a part of the wiki saying:
+&quot;At this stage, DO NOT EXPECT any alpha or final ISO 0 release to be a
+'general audience-ready' system.&quot;
+I advised him to get informations before announcing anything publicly.
+
+I am worried that some people will be awaiting for Mageia and will be
+disappointed (about the way they could use the distribution) because
+they were told that they would be able to try it quickly.
+
+
+
+I think it would be great if someone could publish a short note about
+what will be and WON'T be the alpha and the ISO 0 (as written on the
+wiki) and what each kind of users (beginners, experienced users,
+developers, ...) could expect about it.
+The note could also include a brief schedule of the planned released and
+specify that this schedule may change.
+
+
+
+P.S.
+I'm also wondering which page to believe/to recommend :
+- <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap#march">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap#march</A> &lt;&lt; ISO 0
+announced for March.
+-
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_0_specifications#expected_milestones">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_0_specifications#expected_milestones</A>
+&lt;&lt; ISO 0 announced for April.
+
+
+
+Cheers :)
+
+--
+DjeZAeL / Elodie
+
+GNU/Linux and Free Open-Source Software user
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 09:45, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/1/25 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Forums will be implemented as well (on forums.mageia.org), it will
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> possibly turn out that they will mostly be used by users of Mageia to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> find support and get together. This is the usual way. So we will need
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> such a gateway to the mailing lists, so that forum users are able to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> follow mailing list discussions and we will not have the same split
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> between the 2 worlds as at Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes this is what I was hoping would be the plan to implement.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is not a plan, these are my individual thoughts.
+</I>
+Just to summarize.
+
+There is no such plan at this time. That's great that some see this as
+an important point and want to help in setting this up. They are
+welcome to provide such a bridge from their side (as this has been
+done already, partly). Or to provide a controlled (packaged, followed)
+way to install this on our side so we can consider it (but that will
+take more time I guess).
+
+But that's not our focus for now.
+
+And for now, the main work/discussion places for contributing to
+Mageia are mailing-lists, in English.
+
+That does not prevent teams (and local subteams) to work in a separate
+place, only that teams reports and decisions should happen on the
+main, central channels.
+
+And forums are not expected to be used for that (or marginally, or
+locally) but to engage with other people on a different level, at a
+different pace.
+
+Our own forums (as soon as they will be up) will be in several
+languages (and there are some already). So facilitating communication
+won't be only a matter of crossing the gap between mailing-lists and
+web-forums, but too of translating views from several locales to
+English (and the other way around).
+
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 19:19, DjeZAeL &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">djezael at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I am worried that some people will be awaiting for Mageia and will be
+</I>&gt;<i> disappointed (about the way they could use the distribution) because they
+</I>&gt;<i> were told that they would be able to try it quickly.
+</I>
+No need to worry about that anymore: it is going to happen anyway. :)
+
+We just have to endorse this and stress out the message better. That
+will still not prevent people to download, test, yell and post a
+somehow angry blog post saying that it is &quot;way below their
+expectations&quot; and &quot;this project is dead or going the wrong way&quot;. We
+can't do anything about this, but explain better what we do (and why).
+
+&gt;<i> I think it would be great if someone could publish a short note about what
+</I>&gt;<i> will be and WON'T be the alpha and the ISO 0 (as written on the wiki) and
+</I>&gt;<i> what each kind of users (beginners, experienced users, developers, ...)
+</I>&gt;<i> could expect about it.
+</I>&gt;<i> The note could also include a brief schedule of the planned released and
+</I>&gt;<i> specify that this schedule may change.
+</I>
+We can do that. Will raise the point on Monday founders/Council meeting.
+
+Actually, I would love some reaction to my Jan. 24 mail about this
+alpha release, as the message would greatly benefit from your (all of
+you who joined the marcom team) work and as its different incarnations
+(blog, as noted here, and everywhere else) may be of this team
+operational responsibility shortly.
+
+&gt;<i> I'm also wondering which page to believe/to recommend :
+</I>&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap#march">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap#march</A> &#160;&lt;&lt; ISO 0 announced
+</I>&gt;<i> for March.
+</I>&gt;<i> -
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_0_specifications#expected_milestones">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_0_specifications#expected_milestones</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;&lt; ISO 0 announced for April.
+</I>
+The latter is better. The whole roadmap page needs some work (input
+from here welcome as well).
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:17, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> One essential part to promote something is &quot;Keep it in the news&quot; -
+</I>&gt;<i> which means &quot;visibility&quot; of the name.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> This is a task which needs the cooperation of several teams and people:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. All teamleaders and board/council should continuously report about
+</I>&gt;<i> their work in the blog
+</I>
+Yes. We are going to have a Planet setup. We may set a rule as to what
+goes where? (I'd leave the official blog to board/council and marcom
+team as such; and owned blogs to everyone in their own name, to be
+reported/linked to Mageia).
+
+&gt;<i> 2. MarCom can create a regular newsletter, [...]
+</I>
+Yep. For that, we need to know who can lead this and what is needed
+for everything to work (people, tools, legal requirements, style).
+
+&gt;<i> 3. Local communities or members of the i18n language teams can contact
+</I>&gt;<i> the media (news sites, print magazines) in their languages
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- keep those contacts alive by sending regular &quot;news flashes&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- compile articles &amp; reviews about Mageia and send them in to the editors
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. Major news &amp; press releases [...]
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Whatever we do, we should do it together inside a system of cooperation
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- a system of compiling and spreading is much more effective than
+</I>&gt;<i> single activities (which does not mean that such single activities
+</I>&gt;<i> should not occur besides the whole system).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As a long time contributor in this field I remember that we had such a
+</I>&gt;<i> setup at Mandrakesoft (organized and maintained by Ga&#235;l Duval &amp; Kadjo
+</I>&gt;<i> N'Doua, long time ago). It was good and we can do it as well (or
+</I>&gt;<i> better!).
+</I>
+Sounds great. Do you have a specific description of this setup, how it
+would work? (roles, repositories, tools - those may be existing
+webapps or providers as well).
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am worried that some people will be awaiting for Mageia and will be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> disappointed (about the way they could use the distribution) because they
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> were told that they would be able to try it quickly.
+</I>
+Ok, having discussed on IRC with DjeZAel further about this, it seems
+some people advertise the release to be available (because they
+believe it to be and they don't check) and to be usable for everyone
+(for the same reasons of not caring enough to check what's happening).
+
+That's life so we have to prepare &amp; square our message to start to
+talk about the release before it happens.
+
+So here is the situation at this very time:
+ * we won't release an ISO by January; we are late, although we are
+really reaching the point to be able to build an ISO;
+ * that we *can* build and release an ISO does not mean that it is for
+everyone to use; again, this first alpha will be of no interest for
+most people outside of the project.
+
+Let's sync with founders this evening about this (or tomorrow) as to
+post on -discuss, Twitter and our blog (at least) a statement about
+this:
+ * don't promise what you don't know about this release;
+ * do not market this release outside of the project; it will be of no
+interest outside of the project; it will be announced nonetheless, but
+not as a general, usable release;
+ * do not reclaim for download mirrors when there is not even a
+release announced; be consistent;
+ * please be very careful about the release message as it impacts the project.
+
+Advice?
+
+Cheers (and thanks DjeZAel for reporting this)
+
+Romain
+</PRE>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds great. Do you have a specific description of this setup, how it
+</I>&gt;<i> would work? (roles, repositories, tools - those may be existing
+</I>&gt;<i> webapps or providers as well).
+</I>
+Will try to find the time to lay this out on a wiki page - but it may
+take a couple of days (until after Fosdem).
+
+--
+wobo
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+here is a draft of the presentations we'll give at FOSDEM; there is
+still a missing part in the common trunk and I expect to load it this
+evening from previous slides and talk notes.
+
+However, please review this and give your feedback (add/remove/focus);
+presentations will be 30 mins only, expect for 5 mins of Q&amp;A, that's
+short.
+
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=docs:fosdem2011">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=docs:fosdem2011</A>
+
+Still mix of English/French. Still not very well structured. Still not
+very complete &quot;Org focus&quot; part.
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Romain,
+
+Thanks for all the work you've put into this!
+
+&gt;<i> Still not very complete &quot;Org focus&quot; part.
+</I>
+This is a pretty important part - it's the answer to the question
+&quot;why would I join this distro and not another one?&quot;
+
+Can you take some of the Core Values stuff already up on the Marketing
+wiki, here:
+
+<A HREF="http://ooogear.co.nz/mageiawiki/index.php?title=CoreValues">http://ooogear.co.nz/mageiawiki/index.php?title=CoreValues</A>
+
+This is the stuff that got all of *this* team excited, back when.
+These values are why we're here, and willing to turn our hands to
+things. The inclusive stuff. It kind of takes a back seat to the
+technical stuff, most of the time, but a technical person can be
+technical in *any* distro - there has to be something that sets us
+apart, other than the notion that we stopped liking the management
+folks at Mandriva...
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+It's looking pretty good Romain :)
+
+I cleaned up a couple of things, not much though, since this is
+basically just a cheat-sheet/notes page for the presenters/speakers to
+queue off of, where they can pick/choose items/topics that are relevant
+given the time frame they are alotted, etc.
+
+On a slightly more humorous note, I was going through and reading the
+mix of French and English, and observed that even twenty years after
+leaving college, I'm still able to read in French, although I will
+probably always have problems with nouns, especially industrial and
+technically related items.
+
+Being a member of the sysadmin team myself, I added content in the
+*sysadmin* area of the notes, for the most part mirroring our stated
+progress and a few todo items. the percentage of completion for moving
+the entire Mageia infrastructure to our self-hosted services and domain
+is arbitrary - I guestimated we're at about 85%, but can't speak
+authoritatively as to the particular number, which is a moving target
+anyway and will change by the time FOSDEM occurs.
+
+Okay, getting back to the Open Source convention in Mexico next month -
+This should serve really well as a basic template for the speaker there
+too, although we should bear in mind that he has an entire hour to make
+his presentation, perhaps 50 minutes, after allowing for a 10min Q&amp;A.
+
+Is there a link to the slide show presentations, etc., that you
+mentioned? We should probably get to work on making sure that it is
+localized for the primary language of the respective audience a speaker
+will encounter at future engagements.
+
+i.e., I reckon we'll need to translate the slide show into Spanish for
+the convention in Mexico :) Something I really can't help out with :(
+
+I could have gone through and cleaned up language issues on that page
+dealing with the translations and spellings, but most of it was pretty
+obvious anyway, as to what was being referred to, and again, it's only a
+template for the speakers to base their presentations on, so what's
+the point in changing all occurances of *septembre*, to *September* -
+IOW, it's not like it's marketing copy going to the lithographers ;)
+
+Hope that helps!
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+Bradley (tallship)
+
+On 01/31/2011 09:19 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> here is a draft of the presentations we'll give at FOSDEM; there is
+</I>&gt;<i> still a missing part in the common trunk and I expect to load it this
+</I>&gt;<i> evening from previous slides and talk notes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, please review this and give your feedback (add/remove/focus);
+</I>&gt;<i> presentations will be 30 mins only, expect for 5 mins of Q&amp;A, that's
+</I>&gt;<i> short.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=docs:fosdem2011">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=docs:fosdem2011</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Still mix of English/French. Still not very well structured. Still not
+</I>&gt;<i> very complete &quot;Org focus&quot; part.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
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+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="31">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</A><A NAME="24">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000027.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
+</A><A NAME="27">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000028.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="28">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-marketing] Alpha release
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000026.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2
+</A><A NAME="26">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hellnest.fuah at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other Dutch or Flemish members involved in the Mageia project?
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>trish at thefrasers.org
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Jan 31 22:53:54 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 23:02:00 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <h1>January 2011 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jan 3 15:17:34 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 22:53:54 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 65<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</A><A NAME="24">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000026.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2
+</A><A NAME="26">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hellnest.fuah at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000027.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
+</A><A NAME="27">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000028.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="28">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000029.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="29">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000030.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="31">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other Dutch or Flemish members involved in the Mageia project?
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-marketing] Comms and i18n
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>trish at thefrasers.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-marketing] Alpha release
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-marketing] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-marketing] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Jan 31 22:53:54 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 23:02:00 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
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+ <h1>January 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jan 3 15:17:34 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 22:53:54 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 65<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-marketing] Alpha release
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-marketing] Comms and i18n
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000027.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
+</A><A NAME="27">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000026.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2
+</A><A NAME="26">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hellnest.fuah at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000028.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="28">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000029.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="29">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000030.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="31">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>trish at thefrasers.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other Dutch or Flemish members involved in the Mageia project?
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-marketing] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-marketing] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</A><A NAME="24">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Jan 31 22:53:54 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 23:02:00 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>January 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jan 3 15:17:34 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 22:53:54 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 65<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01294064254- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</A><A NAME="24">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01294161024- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01294161024-01294418937- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000027.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
+</A><A NAME="27">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01294225853- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000026.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2
+</A><A NAME="26">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hellnest.fuah at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01294419425- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000028.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="28">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01294419425-01294427228- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000029.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="29">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01294419425-01294427228-01294431546- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000030.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295306912- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295307236- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295376761- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295376761-01295458635- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295544374- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295544374-01295549386- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295544374-01295589167- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295544374-01295589167-01295600795- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295544374-01295589167-01295600795-01295603180- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295544374-01295589167-01295600795-01295603180-01295618741- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>trish at thefrasers.org
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295544374-01295589167-01295600795-01295648931- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295845714- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
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+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339-01295903053- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339-01295903053-01295905535- -->
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+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339-01295903053-01295905535-01295907244-01295910068- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339-01295903053-01295905535-01295907244-01295910068-01295919251- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339-01295903053-01295905535-01295907244-01295910068-01295919251-01295927090- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339-01295903053-01295905535-01295907244-01295910068-01295919251-01295927090-01295945137- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339-01295903053-01295905535-01295907244-01295910068-01295919251-01295927090-01295945137-01296408583- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295984154- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295984154-01295994597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01294419425-01294435332- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="31">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01294419425-01294435332-01294463611- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01294582742- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other Dutch or Flemish members involved in the Mageia project?
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01294688753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-marketing] Comms and i18n
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01295499214- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295499214-01295520229- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01295499214-01295520229-01295520879- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01295499214-01295520229-01295523141- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01295499214-01295520229-01295554989- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01295499214-01295520229-01295554989-01295561272- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01295499214-01295520229-01295554989-01295562038- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01295499214-01295520229-01295554989-01295562038-01295624451- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01295499214-01295520229-01295554989-01295562038-01295624451-01295648806- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295867872- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295867872-01296410435- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01295867872-01296410435-01296478447- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295881507- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-marketing] Alpha release
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01296217975- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-marketing] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01296217975-01296219143- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-marketing] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01296325156- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01296325156-01296409828- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01296325156-01296409828-01296411737- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01296494348- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01296494348-01296503877- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01296494348-01296510834- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
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+ <B>Anne nicolas</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Mageia%202%20technical%20specifications&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTik6z2yjMS9Kh-M_-McoNsgBMV-q%3DQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 technical specifications">ennael at mageia.org
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Fri Jul 1 11:16:32 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi there
+
+As said during our last meeting, here is the review for proposed
+specifications on Mageia wiki. Comments are not about we will do or not
+(unless it was not reasonable) but:
+- ask for more information when needed
+- give a minimal status
+- ask for discussions when we are talking a very intrusive modification
+
+So please have a look on this page:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
+especially on comments
+
+Now we need to organize work for all this. As a proposal all specs will be
+reported in Bugzilla with a given target so that we can follow it in coming
+months. You can start doing it if you are especially interested in one of
+them.t prio
+
+Please do not add new proposals on that page as it's coming after deadline.
+We will put priority on current one. A new wiki page will collect more ideas
+here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
+
+Of course as you cnan see all these proposals are implying packagers, QA but
+also artwork and marcom teams. Stay connected! :)
+
+If you want to comment these proposals please create one thread /proposal so
+that we can work on it properly. If you are interested in one of these, add
+your name on wiki.
+
+Cheers
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+ <B>Anne nicolas</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Mageia%202%20technical%20specifications&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTikGvtTQwA6sryU14HCBvxEa_N-cPQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 technical specifications">ennael at mageia.org
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+ <I>Fri Jul 1 11:21:02 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please do not add new proposals on that page as it's coming after deadline.
+</I>&gt;<i> We will put priority on current one. A new wiki page will collect more ideas
+</I>&gt;<i> here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas</A>
+(thanks Stormi)
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+Take a look at the draft specs for Mageia 2, here:
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+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
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+These need to be organised somewhat. I'll be pecking away at this,
+this week - it has to be finished by the weekend, because I'm on a
+work trip all next week.
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+The current thinking is: organise it by teams, and then using MoSCoW
+rankings, and add tags to show where each bit goes in the overall
+distro.
+
+Question is: is there a better way? Feedback please!
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As said during our last meeting, here is the review for proposed
+</I>&gt;<i> specifications on Mageia wiki. Comments are not about we will do or not
+</I>&gt;<i> (unless it was not reasonable) but:
+</I>&gt;<i> - ask for more information when needed
+</I>&gt;<i> - give a minimal status
+</I>&gt;<i> - ask for discussions when we are talking a very intrusive modification
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So please have a look on this page:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> especially on comments
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now we need to organize work for all this. As a proposal all specs will be
+</I>&gt;<i> reported in Bugzilla with a given target so that we can follow it in coming
+</I>&gt;<i> months. You can start doing it if you are especially interested in one of
+</I>&gt;<i> them.t prio
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please do not add new proposals on that page as it's coming after deadline.
+</I>&gt;<i> We will put priority on current one. A new wiki page will collect more ideas
+</I>&gt;<i> here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course as you cnan see all these proposals are implying packagers, QA but
+</I>&gt;<i> also artwork and marcom teams. Stay connected! :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to comment these proposals please create one thread /proposal so
+</I>&gt;<i> that we can work on it properly. If you are interested in one of these, add
+</I>&gt;<i> your name on wiki.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>
+i've added my ideas before in the specs and now that the choice has been made,
+i've added them in the ideas page (marcello's entries of course):
+
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas</A>
+
+i didn't partecipate in the ideas choice, but i've proposed more than a dozen
+of ideas and neither of one has been accepted. can i ask you why? thanks
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+ <B>Anne Nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>Le 14/07/2011 17:14, Marcello Anni a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As said during our last meeting, here is the review for proposed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> specifications on Mageia wiki. Comments are not about we will do or not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (unless it was not reasonable) but:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - ask for more information when needed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - give a minimal status
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - ask for discussions when we are talking a very intrusive modification
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So please have a look on this page:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> especially on comments
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now we need to organize work for all this. As a proposal all specs will be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reported in Bugzilla with a given target so that we can follow it in coming
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> months. You can start doing it if you are especially interested in one of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> them.t prio
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please do not add new proposals on that page as it's coming after deadline.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We will put priority on current one. A new wiki page will collect more ideas
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Of course as you cnan see all these proposals are implying packagers, QA but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> also artwork and marcom teams. Stay connected! :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you want to comment these proposals please create one thread /proposal so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that we can work on it properly. If you are interested in one of these, add
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> your name on wiki.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> i've added my ideas before in the specs and now that the choice has been made,
+</I>&gt;<i> i've added them in the ideas page (marcello's entries of course):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i didn't partecipate in the ideas choice, but i've proposed more than a dozen
+</I>&gt;<i> of ideas and neither of one has been accepted. can i ask you why? thanks
+</I>
+Your proposals were all made after deadline. This deadline was announced
+everywhere. We just removed all of these, yours but also coming from
+other guys.
+That's why we have added another wiki page for ideas coming after
+deadline. But we have to manage priorities and for now only first
+proposals have been discussed.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcello
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Anne wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> Your proposals were all made after deadline. This deadline was announced
+</I>&gt;<i> everywhere. We just removed all of these, yours but also coming from
+</I>&gt;<i> other guys.
+</I>&gt;<i> That's why we have added another wiki page for ideas coming after
+</I>&gt;<i> deadline. But we have to manage priorities and for now only first
+</I>&gt;<i> proposals have been discussed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+unfortunately i was preparing an exam and i couldn't make my proposals
+before... i'm sorry for this, but anyway you could be a bit more &quot;flexible&quot;,
+what happens if some ideas are added after deadline? also with mandriva it
+happened often that some non expected features would added in the meanwhile...
+i'm not speaking because these are &quot;my ideas&quot;, but because i do think some of
+them are really important and can make a quality jump for mageia... can we
+discuss them somewhere (even if in chat session)? please, let me know
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> &gt; Anne wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Your proposals were all made after deadline. This deadline was announced
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; everywhere. We just removed all of these, yours but also coming from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; other guys.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That's why we have added another wiki page for ideas coming after
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; deadline. But we have to manage priorities and for now only first
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; proposals have been discussed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> unfortunately i was preparing an exam and i couldn't make my proposals
+</I>&gt;<i> before... i'm sorry for this, but anyway you could be a bit more &quot;flexible&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> what happens if some ideas are added after deadline? also with mandriva it
+</I>&gt;<i> happened often that some non expected features would added in the
+</I>meanwhile...
+&gt;<i> i'm not speaking because these are &quot;my ideas&quot;, but because i do think some
+</I>of
+&gt;<i> them are really important and can make a quality jump for mageia... can we
+</I>&gt;<i> discuss them somewhere (even if in chat session)? please, let me know
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcello
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+btw, there hasn't been neither a blog post about mageia 2 ideas and specs,
+that it's quite serious for a community-driven project.
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Anne nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>2011/7/15 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Anne wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Your proposals were all made after deadline. This deadline was announced
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; everywhere. We just removed all of these, yours but also coming from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; other guys.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; That's why we have added another wiki page for ideas coming after
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; deadline. But we have to manage priorities and for now only first
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; proposals have been discussed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> unfortunately i was preparing an exam and i couldn't make my proposals
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> before... i'm sorry for this, but anyway you could be a bit more &quot;flexible&quot;,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> what happens if some ideas are added after deadline? also with mandriva it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> happened often that some non expected features would added in the
+</I>&gt;<i> meanwhile...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i'm not speaking because these are &quot;my ideas&quot;, but because i do think some
+</I>&gt;<i> of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> them are really important and can make a quality jump for mageia... can we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> discuss them somewhere (even if in chat session)? please, let me know
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marcello
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> btw, there hasn't been neither a blog post about mageia 2 ideas and specs,
+</I>&gt;<i> that it's quite serious for a community-driven project
+</I>
+of course you never read any Mageia mailing-list. Fine.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcello
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> 2011/7/15 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Anne wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Your proposals were all made after deadline. This deadline was
+</I>announced
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; everywhere. We just removed all of these, yours but also coming from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; other guys.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; That's why we have added another wiki page for ideas coming after
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; deadline. But we have to manage priorities and for now only first
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; proposals have been discussed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; unfortunately i was preparing an exam and i couldn't make my proposals
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; before... i'm sorry for this, but anyway you could be a bit more
+</I>&quot;flexible&quot;,
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; what happens if some ideas are added after deadline? also with mandriva
+</I>it
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; happened often that some non expected features would added in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; meanwhile...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; i'm not speaking because these are &quot;my ideas&quot;, but because i do think
+</I>some
+&gt;<i> &gt; of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; them are really important and can make a quality jump for mageia... can
+</I>we
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; discuss them somewhere (even if in chat session)? please, let me know
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Marcello
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; btw, there hasn't been neither a blog post about mageia 2 ideas and specs,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that it's quite serious for a community-driven project
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> of course you never read any Mageia mailing-list. Fine.
+</I>
+I've already told you i couldn't use the pc because i was preparing an exam
+for the university... other than me, why all the people that have ideas but
+don't follow ML are ignored? aren't we a community that brings people to
+contribute? instead of defend yourself i would appreciate this sentence &quot;you
+proposed your ideas late... anyway because we care about our community and our
+project i will take a look at them and in plus i will create a blog post to
+invite other people to contribute to mageia 2 specs&quot;. i don't find it so hard
+to say this...
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2011/7/15 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/7/15 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Anne wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Your proposals were all made after deadline. This deadline was
+</I>&gt;<i> announced
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; everywhere. We just removed all of these, yours but also coming from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; other guys.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; That's why we have added another wiki page for ideas coming after
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; deadline. But we have to manage priorities and for now only first
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; proposals have been discussed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; unfortunately i was preparing an exam and i couldn't make my proposals
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; before... i'm sorry for this, but anyway you could be a bit more
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;flexible&quot;,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; what happens if some ideas are added after deadline? also with mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; happened often that some non expected features would added in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; meanwhile...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; i'm not speaking because these are &quot;my ideas&quot;, but because i do think
+</I>&gt;<i> some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; them are really important and can make a quality jump for mageia... can
+</I>&gt;<i> we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; discuss them somewhere (even if in chat session)? please, let me know
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Marcello
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; btw, there hasn't been neither a blog post about mageia 2 ideas and specs,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; that it's quite serious for a community-driven project
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of course you never read any Mageia &#160;mailing-list. Fine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've already told you i couldn't use the pc because i was preparing an exam
+</I>&gt;<i> for the university... other than me, why all the people that have ideas but
+</I>&gt;<i> don't follow ML are ignored? aren't we a community that brings people to
+</I>&gt;<i> contribute? instead of defend yourself i would appreciate this sentence &quot;you
+</I>&gt;<i> proposed your ideas late... anyway because we care about our community and our
+</I>&gt;<i> project i will take a look at them and in plus i will create a blog post to
+</I>&gt;<i> invite other people to contribute to mageia 2 specs&quot;. i don't find it so hard
+</I>&gt;<i> to say this...
+</I>
+Yes, and some time in early April next year you will see Anne still
+writing such sentences because if she makes an exception for one she
+will never be able to deny it to another and another and yet another.
+Where do you want to draw the line? Right behind you?
+I wonder why everybody is so fast pointing to &quot;community&quot; when they
+are denied an exception. Do you think a &quot;community&quot; does not need
+schedules?
+
+That said, I am pretty sure that good ideas which did not make it in
+time to the specs will later be subject to review anyway. They are
+just not part of the official specs now.
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>Hi Marcello,
+
+&gt;<i> I've already told you i couldn't use the pc because i was preparing
+</I>&gt;<i> an exam for the university... other than me, why all the people
+</I>&gt;<i> that have ideas but don't follow ML are ignored? aren't we a
+</I>&gt;<i> community that brings people to contribute? instead of defend
+</I>&gt;<i> yourself i would appreciate this sentence &quot;you proposed your ideas
+</I>&gt;<i> late... anyway because we care about our community and our project
+</I>&gt;<i> i will take a look at them and in plus i will create a blog post to
+</I>&gt;<i> invite other people to contribute to mageia 2 specs&quot;. i don't find
+</I>&gt;<i> it so hard to say this...
+</I>
+Just to get things a bit straighter...
+
+This is a community. That means, no one person gets to run things, or
+gets to have the final say.
+
+All you - or anyone - need do to get your ideas heard is to
+participate - be on the lists or the forums, reading and
+constributing, when things are being decided, and contribute your
+work to the project. If the other people in the community like your
+ideas, your ideas will get up - that's all it takes.
+
+If you aren't putting your ideas in, while decisions are being taken,
+well - they'll have to wait for the next round, that's all. And
+that's what will happen with your additional ideas for Mageia 2.
+
+There is a finite number of people in the Mageia community - we're
+all volunteers, and nobody is paying any of us. So, it just doesn't
+work for anyone - community member or not - to come and say &quot;you
+should do this&quot; and &quot;you must do that&quot;. If you're a community member,
+the expression is &quot;We could do this (and I'll do this bit of it),
+what does everyone think?&quot; If you're not a community member, then the
+thing to do is become one...
+
+Maybe you could cut Anne a bit of slack, here - you seem to be mostly
+complaining, when it was you who was absent! Your reasons might be
+good ones, but while you were away doing exams, Anne was doing a
+*lot* of stuff right here at Mageia. You can actually find out what
+it was, if you read the blog, the list archives, the wiki...
+
+Maybe, now that your exams are done, you could read up on where the
+community is actually at, and start participating again?
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi Marcello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I've already told you i couldn't use the pc because i was preparing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; an exam for the university... other than me, why all the people
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that have ideas but don't follow ML are ignored? aren't we a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; community that brings people to contribute? instead of defend
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; yourself i would appreciate this sentence &quot;you proposed your ideas
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; late... anyway because we care about our community and our project
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i will take a look at them and in plus i will create a blog post to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; invite other people to contribute to mageia 2 specs&quot;. i don't find
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it so hard to say this...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just to get things a bit straighter...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a community. That means, no one person gets to run things, or
+</I>&gt;<i> gets to have the final say.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All you - or anyone - need do to get your ideas heard is to
+</I>&gt;<i> participate - be on the lists or the forums, reading and
+</I>&gt;<i> constributing, when things are being decided, and contribute your
+</I>&gt;<i> work to the project. If the other people in the community like your
+</I>&gt;<i> ideas, your ideas will get up - that's all it takes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you aren't putting your ideas in, while decisions are being taken,
+</I>&gt;<i> well - they'll have to wait for the next round, that's all. And
+</I>&gt;<i> that's what will happen with your additional ideas for Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is a finite number of people in the Mageia community - we're
+</I>&gt;<i> all volunteers, and nobody is paying any of us. So, it just doesn't
+</I>&gt;<i> work for anyone - community member or not - to come and say &quot;you
+</I>&gt;<i> should do this&quot; and &quot;you must do that&quot;. If you're a community member,
+</I>&gt;<i> the expression is &quot;We could do this (and I'll do this bit of it),
+</I>&gt;<i> what does everyone think?&quot; If you're not a community member, then the
+</I>&gt;<i> thing to do is become one...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe you could cut Anne a bit of slack, here - you seem to be mostly
+</I>&gt;<i> complaining, when it was you who was absent! Your reasons might be
+</I>&gt;<i> good ones, but while you were away doing exams, Anne was doing a
+</I>&gt;<i> *lot* of stuff right here at Mageia. You can actually find out what
+</I>&gt;<i> it was, if you read the blog, the list archives, the wiki...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe, now that your exams are done, you could read up on where the
+</I>&gt;<i> community is actually at, and start participating again?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>that's what i'm doing right now, i'm subscribed to near all the mageia list...
+
+anyway, this is not a personal complain, keep it in mind; i'm speaking about
+this only because happened to me, but i think out there is plenty of ideas
+that will not be implemented in mageia because only ML followers knew this...
+
+i'm not complaining about MY proposals, i'm complaining about the MISSING blog
+post that should notice the people ideas page was up and available until xx
+date. this not happened. why a normal user should follow all the mailing
+lists if he can't or doesn't want to partecipate? why shouldn't we accept his
+ideas only because he isn't involved in the team? don't you want to implement
+his interesting feature only for revenge about his missing in the ML?
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+<PRE>Le 15 juil. 2011 &#224; 17:54, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i'm not complaining about MY proposals, i'm complaining about the MISSING blog
+</I>&gt;<i> post that should notice the people ideas page was up and available until xx
+</I>&gt;<i> date.
+</I>
+It could have been a good point, yes, I agree, and you could have mentioned it before.
+
+And it's not too late either, in retrospect, to point to current state of work. So, how would you point it out?
+
+&gt;<i> why a normal user should follow all the mailing
+</I>&gt;<i> lists if he can't or doesn't want to partecipate?
+</I>
+Well... You answer your own question here. :)
+
+&gt;<i> why shouldn't we accept his
+</I>&gt;<i> ideas only because he isn't involved in the team? don't you want to implement
+</I>&gt;<i> his interesting feature only for revenge about his missing in the ML?
+</I>
+Could be argued as well that someone who does not care enough to take the minimal effort to follow a ML is likely not going to put the effort needed to submit/support/hack his own idea.
+
+The world is full of ideas waiting for someone.
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Le 15 juil. 2011 &#224; 17:54, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i'm not complaining about MY proposals, i'm complaining about the MISSING
+</I>blog
+&gt;<i> &gt; post that should notice the people ideas page was up and available until
+</I>xx
+&gt;<i> &gt; date.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It could have been a good point, yes, I agree, and you could have mentioned
+</I>it before.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And it's not too late either, in retrospect, to point to current state of
+</I>work. So, how would you point it out?
+
+thank you Romain, i was starting to think i was mad... i would make a blog
+post and spread the voice, so we can have more ideas and we demonstrate that
+mageia 1 was only the base of a innovative and great project.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; why a normal user should follow all the mailing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lists if he can't or doesn't want to partecipate?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well... You answer your own question here. :)
+</I>
+this phrase is linked to the sentence below : )
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; why shouldn't we accept his
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ideas only because he isn't involved in the team? don't you want to
+</I>implement
+&gt;<i> &gt; his interesting feature only for revenge about his missing in the ML?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could be argued as well that someone who does not care enough to take the
+</I>minimal effort to follow a ML is likely not going to put the effort needed to
+submit/support/hack his own idea.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The world is full of ideas waiting for someone.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+i don't think so, ideas are only *ideas*, developers that implement them are
+totally different. the point is to catch the BEST ideas and to handle our
+resources to implement the best ones. i don't mind if the idea comes from a
+developer or a simple user that cannot (or doesn't want) implement it, if the
+idea is good we'll find a developer that will adopt it.
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+
+could we wrap up a status for the interviews for the blog? so we know
+what we have for a next interview, if we should edit it; and if we can
+dispatch questions to more people. It would be nice if we could push
+1/2 interviews (not more) in August and have something for September
+as well.
+
+Reference doc is here:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews</A> (with list of
+people/stacks considered).
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>Le 28 juil. 2011 18:44, &quot;Romain d&amp;apos;Alverny&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; a
+&#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> could we wrap up a status for the interviews for the blog? so we know
+</I>&gt;<i> what we have for a next interview, if we should edit it; and if we can
+</I>&gt;<i> dispatch questions to more people. It would be nice if we could push
+</I>&gt;<i> 1/2 interviews (not more) in August and have something for September
+</I>&gt;<i> as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Reference doc is here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews</A> (with list of
+</I>&gt;<i> people/stacks considered).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I have some answers from mikala
+&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> could we wrap up a status for the interviews for the blog? so we know
+</I>&gt;<i> what we have for a next interview, if we should edit it; and if we can
+</I>&gt;<i> dispatch questions to more people. It would be nice if we could push
+</I>&gt;<i> 1/2 interviews (not more) in August and have something for September
+</I>&gt;<i> as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Reference doc is here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews</A> (with list of
+</I>&gt;<i> people/stacks considered).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+i'm doing an interview to Samuel for mageiaitalia, we can host it also (this
+is what i thought) in the blog, what do you think? i'm waiting for his answer
+;)
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 19:00, Anne Nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 28 juil. 2011 18:44, &quot;Romain d&amp;apos;Alverny&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; a
+</I>&gt;<i> &#233;crit&#160;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Reference doc is here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews</A> (with list of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people/stacks considered).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have some&#160; answers from mikala
+</I>
+Cool! Could you start to format it and see if it fits or needs
+something more? (blog draft or piratepad)
+
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+&gt;<i> i'm doing an interview to Samuel for mageiaitalia, we can host it also (this
+</I>&gt;<i> is what i thought) in the blog, what do you think? i'm waiting for his answer
+</I>&gt;<i> ;)
+</I>
+Cool too! Does your interview match our format (not in a one-to-one
+fashion, but at least inclusive)?
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 18:59, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i'm doing an interview to Samuel for mageiaitalia, we can host it also
+</I>(this
+&gt;<i> &gt; is what i thought) in the blog, what do you think? i'm waiting for his
+</I>answer
+&gt;<i> &gt; ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cool too! Does your interview match our format (not in a one-to-one
+</I>&gt;<i> fashion, but at least inclusive)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+i didn't understand your point, anyway these are my questions:
+
+- Hi Samuel, welcome by Mageia italian users. First of all, could you please
+start by introducing yourself to our readers?
+
+- How did you first become interested in Linux?
+
+- How did you discover Mageia and why did you decide to join the project?
+
+- What are the fields you are contributing in Mageia?
+
+- You are the maintainer of Mageia-app-db. Can you explain to our users what
+it is and which are its goals?
+
+- In which development status is mageia-app-db? what are its major features
+and what we should expect in the next releases?
+
+- thank you Samuel for giving us this interview and keep it up with this great
+work! See you soon!
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+<PRE>Le samedi 30 juillet 2011 12:46:52, Marcello Anni a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 18:59, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; i'm doing an interview to Samuel for mageiaitalia, we can host it also
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (this
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; is what i thought) in the blog, what do you think? i'm waiting for his
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> answer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ;)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cool too! Does your interview match our format (not in a one-to-one
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; fashion, but at least inclusive)?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Romain
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i didn't understand your point, anyway these are my questions:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - Hi Samuel, welcome by Mageia italian users. First of all, could you
+</I>&gt;<i> please start by introducing yourself to our readers?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - How did you first become interested in Linux?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - How did you discover Mageia and why did you decide to join the project?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - What are the fields you are contributing in Mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - You are the maintainer of Mageia-app-db. Can you explain to our users
+</I>&gt;<i> what it is and which are its goals?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - In which development status is mageia-app-db? what are its major features
+</I>&gt;<i> and what we should expect in the next releases?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - thank you Samuel for giving us this interview and keep it up with this
+</I>&gt;<i> great work! See you soon!
+</I>
+His point is, the interviews must contain at least the questions in
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews</A> I think.
+
+Samuel
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 01 juli 2011 11:21:02 schreef Anne nicolas:
+&gt;<i> &gt; Please do not add new proposals on that page as it's coming after
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; deadline. We will put priority on current one. A new wiki page will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; collect more ideas here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> (thanks Stormi)
+</I>
+I started filling out some of the bug reports and provided some extra info.
+
+PS: I note that i didn't see the original email on mageia-dev ML; only on
+mageia-sysadm ML. must be something wrong with google...
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+<PRE>Hi Romain,
+
+&gt;<i> you could as well post this directly on marcom I guess.
+</I>
+And artwork (who will always get dragged into these things 8-))... we
+might even take it over to the Discuss list when we've got it a bit
+more together, what do you think?
+
+
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 22:04, Patricia Fraser
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; First, on the front page of the website when it comes off the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; announcement-day layout, I'd like to see a top-right box with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;Please Contribute&quot; as the heading, and first after that should be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;Please Donate&quot; with a link to the how-to page with all the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; progress reports; only after that the link to the &quot;Other Ways to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Contribute&quot; page.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'd like to put a little &quot;motto&quot; with the Please Donate link -
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; something that changes every three or four days, just for fun.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (Can we do that easily?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On the home page, it really depends on the message this very page is
+</I>&gt;<i> supposed to bring.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But, complement to this, we need a few updates on:
+</I>&gt;<i> - the donation page (better showcase amount received, goal to reach
+</I>&gt;<i> and usage, in a graphical way; maybe make a better incentive to
+</I>&gt;<i> donate and providing an option to regularly donate);
+</I>&gt;<i> - this can be used to showcase the donation status around the place
+</I>&gt;<i> (home page, or footers here and there) with a motto or without.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Before reviving more the donation thing, we need to be able to show
+</I>&gt;<i> that we know how to handle this money; that means, public forecasts,
+</I>&gt;<i> records, activity and feedback, and actual use of what we have
+</I>&gt;<i> already (as for the 2011 forecast, we didn't receive more than 2k
+</I>&gt;<i> on the 20k we expect).
+</I>
+Okay, we can design that all together, I think - what goes on the
+front page and how it'll look, and where it will link to and what we
+want there.
+
+Following up on pledges is a bit of a different activity, but we
+could include a reminder on the Donations page - did you pledge?
+Now's the time to make good! or something like that.
+
+Feedback please!
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Second, I'd like to add a para to every second blog post from now
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; until the end of August - don't forget, you can help with money
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; too (or something like it), and a link to the Donations page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We can add a permanent footer to blog posts; see bottom of this post
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2940-svn-flashback-product-roadmaps-are-dangerous">http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2940-svn-flashback-product-roadmaps-are-dangerous</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> for instance. These are good reminders.
+</I>
+Yes - that's a great idea.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Third, I'd like to carefully insert the possibility of people
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; contributing money into *some* of the texts we send out to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; journalists - this is the one that's most sensitive, so feedback
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; please!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not sure what you mean here?
+</I>
+If we're asked (as for the Inquirer article) to put some words into
+someone else's article, do we want to add Donations as a way people
+can contribute?
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Patricia,
+
+On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 23:03, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> you could as well post this directly on marcom I guess.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And artwork (who will always get dragged into these things 8-))... we
+</I>&gt;<i> might even take it over to the Discuss list when we've got it a bit
+</I>&gt;<i> more together, what do you think?
+</I>
+Ok, but before putting in the graphics and bigger discussion circles
+(not that it's bad), we need to square a bit things and extract clear
+&amp; short action items.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 22:04, Patricia Fraser
+</I>&gt;<i> Okay, we can design that all together, I think - what goes on the
+</I>&gt;<i> front page and how it'll look, and where it will link to and what we
+</I>&gt;<i> want there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Following up on pledges is a bit of a different activity, but we
+</I>&gt;<i> could include a reminder on the Donations page - did you pledge?
+</I>&gt;<i> Now's the time to make good! or something like that.
+</I>
+Well, we already have the structure (see <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/donate/">http://mageia.org/en/donate/</A> ):
+ a. Teaser (not here, can be the title or a banner)
+ b. Why Donate?
+ c. How to track donation? (maybe to rephrase &quot;your money at work&quot;, to
+put as an aside section of the page and link to a separate page that
+does show detailed use of the money, in time and with the records -
+this would be an enhanced financial reports page, that we already
+have, see <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/about/reports/2011/">http://mageia.org/en/about/reports/2011/</A>)
+ d. Donate (actions that should be made more clear and enable regular,
+automatic donations)
+ e. Thank You page, listing who gave something.
+
+&gt;<i>From this, if we can automate the tracking/listing of donations, we
+</I>can build something more visual to publish on the front page, if
+needed. And that's where the artwork team is in (desiging a
+donation-meter for instance and/or the enhanced reports page).
+
+Automating the background app (logging donation amounts and donators)
+is in Dams basket already; that doesn't prevent from starting artwork
+and/or discuss for visualization (operational) mockups.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Second, I'd like to add a para to every second blog post from now
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; until the end of August - don't forget, you can help with money
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; too (or something like it), and a link to the Donations page.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We can add a permanent footer to blog posts; see bottom of this post
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2940-svn-flashback-product-roadmaps-are-dangerous">http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2940-svn-flashback-product-roadmaps-are-dangerous</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for instance. These are good reminders.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes - that's a great idea.
+</I>
+Ok. So apart from integrating it (and translating it), we need a set
+of items to put there:
+ - call to contribute
+ - call to donate
+ - call to download/use
+
+That's a job for you! ;-p
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Not sure what you mean here?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we're asked (as for the Inquirer article) to put some words into
+</I>&gt;<i> someone else's article, do we want to add Donations as a way people
+</I>&gt;<i> can contribute?
+</I>
+Ah yes. Sorry. Sure, of course. That's part of the game.
+
+Romain
+
+
+--
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+
+It's time to start having marcomm meetings again (at #mageia-marcomm
+on Freenode, in case you're not sure), now that Mageia 1 is out -
+I'm going to suggest 18:30 UTC on Thursday; if that time's bad for
+anyone, speak up!
+
+People from Artwork and Web-Team, please do join in if you can; if
+the proposed time doesn't suit, please let us know what would.
+
+For this meeting we need to do some catching up and some planning, so
+here are the topics:
+
+#1 - recap what we did/didn't achieve in the 9 months to release;
+what went well and what didn't;
+ - some of the Vision/Mission remains to be done; now that
+ we've got a better feel for our community, maybe we can
+ look at these things again;
+ - things like Colour Palette, style, visual branding remain
+ to be done - we need input and teamwork with Artwork and
+ Web Team for those.
+#2 - do some good brainstorming on what we need to do now, and start
+laying down some plans.
+
+Please start by putting some responses in to this thread on the
+marcomm list, so we can bring lots of topics to the IRC meeting. Once
+we've got something like a to-do list, we can put it up on the wiki
+and get cracking.
+
+See you there!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+ma jun 6 23:19:05 CEST 2011
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+andromeda up 5 hour(s), 15 min.
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+<PRE>2011/6/6 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We can add a permanent footer to blog posts; see bottom of this post
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2940-svn-flashback-product-roadmaps-are-dangerous">http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2940-svn-flashback-product-roadmaps-are-dangerous</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for instance. These are good reminders.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes - that's a great idea.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok. So apart from integrating it (and translating it), we need a set
+</I>&gt;<i> of items to put there:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- call to contribute
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- call to donate
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- call to download/use
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's a job for you! ;-p
+</I>
+Good idea - if you can do it in 2 lines (3 at most). More would be too pushing.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> If we're asked (as for the Inquirer article) to put some words into
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> someone else's article, do we want to add Donations as a way people
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> can contribute?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah yes. Sorry. Sure, of course. That's part of the game.
+</I>
+No, at least from all the articles I read over the last 10 years this
+would be very extraordinary. If the author asks for some words from us
+he wants a quote with an opinion, statement, information, whatever,
+but definitely not a donation rally. The only case I ever read such a
+quote was when Mandrakesoft went into chapter #11 and asked for help.
+
+But of course we can always ask the author to mention the fact that
+Mageia is running on donations and add the link to the donation page,
+he will surely include this in his article. I will :)
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>(this is a copy of the mail sent to the packagers mailing list mageia-dev. I'm
+sending it to the marcom team too because I thing that marcom people could be
+fit for the job)
+
+Hello to everyone,
+
+I'm sure there's someone among you who wants to help Mageia but hasn't found
+yet the good way to do it. Today is your lucky day, because there's a job
+that's available and can be really useful and interesting: coordinating the
+packagers mentoring program.
+
+You know that one key point of success for Mageia is in the ability to welcome
+new packagers. The better we will be at it, the better the distro will be. The
+packagers mentoring program has been created for that reason and several
+packagers have been or are being mentored. But we have some difficulty knowing
+who is being mentored by who and who hasn't found a mentor. And we need also
+to find more mentors and more apprentices.
+
+During a packagers weekly meeting, misc invited us to read the following
+article about mentoring programs in open-source projects:
+<A HREF="http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/05/31/effective-mentoring-programs/">http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/05/31/effective-mentoring-programs/</A>
+
+I invite those who haven't read it yet, to read it. I'll quote one of the
+mentoring best practices that were given: &quot;In bigger projects, keeping track
+of who is a mentor, and who is mentoring who, and inviting new mentors, and
+ensuring that no-one falls through the cracks when a mentor gets too busy, is
+a job of itself.&quot;
+
+I'm looking for someone who could fill that &quot;job&quot;.
+
+Description of the job:
+
+- keep track of:
+-- who's being mentored by who, how well it's going
+-- who needs a mentor and hasn't found one yet (this is one of the most
+important parts: no volunteer must be forgotten, volunteers are too precious
+!)
+-- who can mentor more apprentices (and sometimes convince packagers to become
+mentors or accept one more apprentice)
+
+- be available for questions from apprentices or mentors, by mail, and if
+possible, to be present on the IRC channel #mageia-mentoring on freenode
+
+- help mentors with gathering &quot;junior tasks&quot; (bugzilla is a never empty
+reserve that can be used for that. Maybe ask the bug triage team to help
+identify such tasks. Maybe a &quot;junior task&quot; keyword in bugzilla would do the
+trick)
+-- small bugs to fix
+-- new small packages to import in the distribution
+-- backports
+
+- promote mentoring (empower users into contributers. Working with the
+marketing team would be great I think):
+-- make the mentoring program known (MLs, forums, web, etc.)
+-- look for new apprentices
+-- look for new mentors
+
+Some useful skills:
+- be autonomous (ie no need to check that you're doing the work)
+- good written english (communication is very important in this job)
+- knowledge about packaging is a plus but not mandatory (the key aspects can
+be taught to you)
+- being or having been a mentor, or having been mentored would be a plus, but
+not mandatory
+
+More information about the job:
+- does not require a big amount of work, but real committment to the task and
+regularity
+- remember that you have a coordination role, not an authoritative role. The
+difference in that is that you're not here to give orders but to facilitate the
+mentoring program.
+- you don't have to be alone to do this job if it's too much for one person:
+you can find other helpful people wanting to help you if needed and rely on the
+other teams (but finding them is part of your job ;) ).
+- this &quot;job offer&quot; concerns everything that revolves around the mentoring of
+new packagers, but if it's successful maybe other teams can follow the same
+approach (i18n, QA, etc... ).
+- depending on your level of confidence, experience and will, you could be
+helped in your work. Maybe someone from the council can supervise and help you
+at least at the beginning; or, if no one steps up, I can help you bootstrap
+and organize your new &quot;job&quot;.
+
+So, who's in?
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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+<PRE>Hi Stormi,
+
+&gt;<i> (this is a copy of the mail sent to the packagers mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-dev. I'm sending it to the marcom team too because I thing
+</I>&gt;<i> that marcom people could be fit for the job)
+</I>
+Thanks! I don't know how much response you'll get - there's only
+about 1.5 people active here at the moment... but if we can help with
+anything specific, let us know!
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+zo jun 12 17:03:12 CEST 2011
+GNU/Linux 1997-2010 #283226 counter.li.org
+andromeda up 6 hour(s), 35 min.
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+Here is the discussion about release cycle. Please have a look and give any
+comments on mageia-dev
+ <A HREF="https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-June/005442.html">https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-June/005442.html</A>
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+Cheers
+
+--
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+On 06/12/2011 08:04 AM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Stormi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (this is a copy of the mail sent to the packagers mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia-dev. I'm sending it to the marcom team too because I thing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that marcom people could be fit for the job)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks! I don't know how much response you'll get - there's only
+</I>&gt;<i> about 1.5 people active here at the moment... but if we can help with
+</I>&gt;<i> anything specific, let us know!
+</I>
+I contacted several of the mentors listed on the wiki starting about six
+months ago to try and get involved and offer services and submit
+packages I maintain for other distros, two or three times.
+
+I got answers (if at all) like, &quot;My plate is full&quot;, &quot;I'll get back to
+you&quot; (a few times), etc. I've been idling in #mageia-mentoring to for
+many months.
+
+I also earmarked several packages on the wiki for me to provide the
+packaging services for - including MySQL and MariaDB and others.
+
+Never heard word one back. Not a peep. I gave up on it.
+
+So yes, a coordinator would be very good to have.
+
+
+- --
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+now that mageia 1 is out i think that marketing team should think about the
+direction and actions to make for mageia 2. i think these are the first steps
+that should be discussed:
+
+1) implementation (and improvement) of mageia ideas webiste or the use
+<A HREF="http://ideascale.com/">http://ideascale.com/</A> (depending on manpower and features of the different
+platform)
+
+2) use of mediawiki as soon as possible
+
+3) completation of <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan</A> by
+marketing team (this should contain only ideas and contributes from marketing
+people)
+
+4) add skype to the distro (italian users most wanted feaure)
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154</A>
+
+5) rethinking of artwork (i don't like it at all, this should be also a work
+of the marketing team) and the role of marketing team beside dev team. (we can
+force dev team to implement new features? which role do we have?)
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+On 06/13/2011 02:37 AM, Marcello Anni wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4) add skype to the distro (italian users most wanted feaure)
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi Marcello,
+
+Those are all great ideas IMO, except for the one above. Not because it
+isn't a good idea (it is actually a good idea, but remember that Skype
+is ONLY a 32bit application, not a 64bit app - it requires multi-lib),
+but because it's a packaging issue, not a marketing issue.
+
+So wrt Skype, it's probably something to bring up in another arena/list,
+to ensure that your request is heard :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:37, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> now that mageia 1 is out i think that marketing team should think about the
+</I>&gt;<i> direction and actions to make for mageia 2.
+</I>
+Indeed! Please see and add your own (global) points to
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=brainstorm_2011">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=brainstorm_2011</A> . It's important to
+track the main topics there. Anne posted here a few hours ago about
+the release cycle discussion on -dev and it's already getting
+interesting :-)
+
+&gt;<i> 1) implementation (and improvement) of mageia ideas webiste or the use
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://ideascale.com/">http://ideascale.com/</A> (depending on manpower and features of the different
+</I>&gt;<i> platform)
+</I>
+First is, what do you want to do with it, and how? and how could this
+be done (or not) with what we already have? (is it a one-time ideas
+site, for the current brainstorm session, or is it a all-times-long
+website?) I agree that an app like this is a great toold. But I also
+know from experience that having no clear plan of what is its role and
+who manages it is a sure recipe for ... misconceptions.
+
+&gt;<i> 5) rethinking of artwork (i don't like it at all,
+</I>
+Liking is not an argument. The question with artwork is first: what
+purpose/message does it serve? Does it fit or not, and why? Then, do
+we have the full chain of resources to implement it (creation,
+integration, updates)?
+
+&gt;<i> this should be also a work of the marketing team)
+</I>
+If we set up an artwork/designers team, there's a good reason for it.
+Collaboration is the keyword.
+
+&gt;<i> and the role of marketing team beside dev team. (we can
+</I>&gt;<i> force dev team to implement new features?
+</I>
+You can't - this is a volunteer project. Although you can design,
+explain, advocate features and find/gather/help devs to implement
+them.
+
+&gt;<i> which role do we have?)
+</I>
+As for giving strong directions, this is to the Council/Board to decide.
+
+On this part (deciding on the project's directions and implementations
+in other teams), the marketing team role is, at most, to provide
+elements, test/proof them - and if you get a go from the Council,
+advocate them, spread and help others spread them (in- and outside of
+the project).
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Marcello,
+
+Just before I respond to your points, you might like to take a look at the
+(updated yesterday) current to-do list on the marcomm wiki page - mainly
+because these tasks have been worked out by conferring with other council
+members, and they kind of fit into the general community-wide thrust.
+
+&gt;<i> 1) implementation (and improvement) of mageia ideas webiste or the use
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://ideascale.com/">http://ideascale.com/</A> (depending on manpower and features of the different
+</I>&gt;<i> platform)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) use of mediawiki as soon as possible
+</I>
+These two (perhaps not exactly in the form you propose) is being discussed
+on the sysadmin and webteam lists already, I think. Do you sub to those
+lists?
+
+It's good to listen to what everyone in the community is saying about what
+might be done - that's kind of what council is partly about, to get the
+transverse communication going between teams.
+
+&gt;<i> 3) completation of <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> by marketing team (this should contain only ideas and contributes from
+</I>&gt;<i> marketing people)
+</I>
+I *still* think this is too soon. We're really only now beginning to
+develop enough as a community to know how we want to present ourselves.
+
+I also don't agree that *only* marketing should make contributions to the
+marketing plan - I'd like to see a variety of input, not least to help us
+identify our community's feelings about how we'd all like to be presented
+and marketed.
+
+&gt;<i> 4) add skype to the distro (italian users most wanted feaure)
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154</A>
+</I>
+As Bradley says, this is probably not the right place to put this!
+
+&gt;<i> 5) rethinking of artwork (i don't like it at all, this should be also a
+</I>&gt;<i> work of the marketing team) and the role of marketing team beside dev
+</I>&gt;<i> team. (we can force dev team to implement new features? which role do we
+</I>&gt;<i> have?)
+</I>
+Hey, I don't think force has any place here... 8-)
+
+That said, check out the task list on the marcomm wiki page and the draft
+Mageia Style document in the Sandbox - I think that kind of covers this
+point. We'll be working closely with Artwork, and then with Webteam and
+the Discuss list (the whole community, in fact) to come to something that
+we're all as happy with as possible for our Visual Brand. As always, the
+Board will have the final say.
+
+And Marcello, it would be great to see you on IRC sometime - when on a
+Thursday can you make it?
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Patricia Fraser
+on the move
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1) implementation (and improvement) of mageia ideas webiste or the use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://ideascale.com/">http://ideascale.com/</A> (depending on manpower and features of the different
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; platform)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First is, what do you want to do with it, and how? and how could this
+</I>&gt;<i> be done (or not) with what we already have? (is it a one-time ideas
+</I>&gt;<i> site, for the current brainstorm session, or is it a all-times-long
+</I>&gt;<i> website?) I agree that an app like this is a great toold. But I also
+</I>&gt;<i> know from experience that having no clear plan of what is its role and
+</I>&gt;<i> who manages it is a sure recipe for ... misconceptions.
+</I>
+i would like to set it as the main place where to discuss new ideas and
+proposals to implement in the next releases... i think it should be:
+- all-times-long website
+- full feature (negative votes, many maintainers and many release-targets)
+- basis point to create new development specs
+- responsabilities (ideas assigned and so on)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 5) rethinking of artwork (i don't like it at all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Liking is not an argument. The question with artwork is first: what
+</I>&gt;<i> purpose/message does it serve? Does it fit or not, and why? Then, do
+</I>&gt;<i> we have the full chain of resources to implement it (creation,
+</I>&gt;<i> integration, updates)?
+</I>
+i explained in various places why i don't like it, i resume my reasons:
+- not original
+- too dark
+- artwork pieces are too similar each other
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this should be also a work of the marketing team)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we set up an artwork/designers team, there's a good reason for it.
+</I>&gt;<i> Collaboration is the keyword.
+</I>
+ok, but i've written my reasons in artwork ML but no one listened me...
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and the role of marketing team beside dev team. (we can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; force dev team to implement new features?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can't - this is a volunteer project. Although you can design,
+</I>&gt;<i> explain, advocate features and find/gather/help devs to implement
+</I>&gt;<i> them.
+</I>
+
+so what are the goals of the brainstorming session if no one is forced to work
+on them? can we have at least a sort of promise of developers who want to
+listen to the marketing key points we chose to improve the distro? otherwise
+this project will not ever raise in linux market but it will remain only a
+ANOTHER-ONE fork with no direction... if we chose as a target &quot;newbies&quot; and we
+think they do need a short guide shortly after the installation, but no one
+will implement (as it was for mandriva), what is our role other than giving
+proposals to others and preparing release notes? this is not a marketing team,
+you're wrong. this is a &quot;comunication team&quot;, that is completely different
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; which role do we have?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As for giving strong directions, this is to the Council/Board to decide.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On this part (deciding on the project's directions and implementations
+</I>&gt;<i> in other teams), the marketing team role is, at most, to provide
+</I>&gt;<i> elements, test/proof them - and if you get a go from the Council,
+</I>&gt;<i> advocate them, spread and help others spread them (in- and outside of
+</I>&gt;<i> the project).
+</I>
+this is what we already did in mandriva, without no results... my ideas are on
+dev specs since years but they've never been implemented. so, why have i to
+lost my time proposing stuff that no one will listen to it? it' clear that
+developers have completely different attitude towards new features, we can
+trust only in them, but there should be a respective trust among marketing-
+team /dev-team unless the project future can be summarize in a word:
+ABANDONED.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi Marcello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just before I respond to your points, you might like to take a look at the
+</I>&gt;<i> (updated yesterday) current to-do list on the marcomm wiki page - mainly
+</I>&gt;<i> because these tasks have been worked out by conferring with other council
+</I>&gt;<i> members, and they kind of fit into the general community-wide thrust.
+</I>
+i see it now, it's said that the main point is &quot;Building a visual brand for
+Mageia&quot;, that work is for artwork-team (maybe with our support), but CAN'T be
+our work. i don't know which skills do the marketing team have, but i study
+economics and i don't see any element that marketing should take in charge of.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1) implementation (and improvement) of mageia ideas webiste or the use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://ideascale.com/">http://ideascale.com/</A> (depending on manpower and features of the different
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; platform)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2) use of mediawiki as soon as possible
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> These two (perhaps not exactly in the form you propose) is being discussed
+</I>&gt;<i> on the sysadmin and webteam lists already, I think. Do you sub to those
+</I>&gt;<i> lists?
+</I>
+i sub them quite often, but it's since a lot of time i hear about work on the
+wiki but until now i don't see any concrete results (saying this i don't want
+to give the fault to developers and systeam, i know they're overloaded). i
+didn't manage to speak directly to them to have news, it's for this reason
+that i ask to you on this list (also to avoid another loss of time for them)
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's good to listen to what everyone in the community is saying about what
+</I>&gt;<i> might be done - that's kind of what council is partly about, to get the
+</I>&gt;<i> transverse communication going between teams.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 3) completation of <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; by marketing team (this should contain only ideas and contributes from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; marketing people)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I *still* think this is too soon. We're really only now beginning to
+</I>&gt;<i> develop enough as a community to know how we want to present ourselves.
+</I>
+you're totally wrong. a business plan and a marketing plan are the first things
+to be done in EVERY long-term project, we can't attract new users and
+developers if it's not clear who we are and where we want to go, and how we
+want to go.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I also don't agree that *only* marketing should make contributions to the
+</I>&gt;<i> marketing plan - I'd like to see a variety of input, not least to help us
+</I>&gt;<i> identify our community's feelings about how we'd all like to be presented
+</I>&gt;<i> and marketed.
+</I>
+the general contributions should be inserted in the mageia-ideas webiste (?),
+the contribution in the action plan is not a list of features, but a list of
+key-features that are useful to reach the global goals the project gave to
+itself. it must be a work of skilled people (as in the developers team work
+skilled people and so on)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 4) add skype to the distro (italian users most wanted feaure)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As Bradley says, this is probably not the right place to put this!
+</I>
+this is related to my above thought. this is not only a package request, this
+is related to our promises to the users:
+
+- We will strive for ease of use (Values)
+- Have your fully-working system up and running really fast! (for you -
+mageia1)
+- We can make this better for developers and users. We can be a better place
+to nurture open source technologies.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 5) rethinking of artwork (i don't like it at all, this should be also a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; work of the marketing team) and the role of marketing team beside dev
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; team. (we can force dev team to implement new features? which role do we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hey, I don't think force has any place here... 8-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That said, check out the task list on the marcomm wiki page and the draft
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia Style document in the Sandbox - I think that kind of covers this
+</I>&gt;<i> point. We'll be working closely with Artwork, and then with Webteam and
+</I>&gt;<i> the Discuss list (the whole community, in fact) to come to something that
+</I>&gt;<i> we're all as happy with as possible for our Visual Brand. As always, the
+</I>&gt;<i> Board will have the final say.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And Marcello, it would be great to see you on IRC sometime - when on a
+</I>&gt;<i> Thursday can you make it?
+</I>
+as i said many times, i study outside my town, and there i have no connections
+(and no time) available, because i must prepare my exams... the only time i
+was available i got ill, anyway this is not so important because i'm working
+on a long-term vision, that doesn't needs frequent meets.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Patricia Fraser
+</I>&gt;<i> on the move
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+
+On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 15:24, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> so what are the goals of the brainstorming session if no one is forced to work
+</I>&gt;<i> on them?
+</I>
+First, let's make sure we agree on what brainstorming is about:
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainstorming#Osborn.27s_method">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainstorming#Osborn.27s_method</A>
+
+&gt;<i>From that can emerge good, actionable things, to discuss/spec further
+</I>and that enough people can commit to and produce. Unless this last
+condition is met, a track/idea won't result in anything; that's part
+of the game.
+
+&gt;<i> can we have at least a sort of promise of developers who want to
+</I>&gt;<i> listen to the marketing key points we chose to improve the distro?
+</I>
+If you can't convince them of the relevance and benefits of your idea,
+you will either have nothing at all, or something that is not properly
+done (and don't expect things to be done in one single row).
+
+&gt;<i> if we chose as a target &quot;newbies&quot; and we think they do need a short guide shortly
+</I>&gt;<i> after the installation, but no one will implement (as it was for mandriva),
+</I>
+Why don't you start to build it and advocate it in a small circle to
+build it further and submit it then?
+
+&gt;<i> what is our role other than giving proposals to others and preparing release notes?
+</I>
+Already answered in my previous mail, but apparently, you don't
+understand that in a volunteer project, what gets done are things that
+drive enough people to commit their time to it. Getting an
+idea/concept approved/supported by the Council is a minimal step to go
+through, but is not even mandatory. Getting supported/executed by
+people that understand and want this thing done is an obviously
+required step: that's kind of a first reality check.
+
+&gt;<i> this is not a marketing team, you're wrong. this is a &quot;comunication team&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> that is completely different
+</I>
+Communicating/discussing ideas is a good thing to master before
+thinking/designing through new ones, no?
+
+So, both are closely working together (hence the mar'comm' team). As
+for marketing per se, it should grow through the whole project, and
+the most important task of the marketing team is maybe to
+advocate/educate this through all other teams (as is the role of every
+other team to spread its own particular bits around).
+
+&gt;<i> my ideas are on dev specs since years but they've never been implemented.
+</I>&gt;<i> so, why have i to lost my time proposing stuff that no one will listen to it?
+</I>
+Ideas and proposals are nothing without action (which presupose
+agreement and understanding). It's good to have ideas. But don't blame
+others for not succeeding (yet) in transforming them into reality
+(don't blame you either, just try different or harder).
+
+&gt;<i> there should be a respective trust among marketing- team /dev-team
+</I>&gt;<i> unless the project future can be summarize in a word:
+</I>&gt;<i> ABANDONED.
+</I>
+If you don't take the time to know people, their motivations, to work
+with them, to advocate, discuss, contradict, deconstruct, re-build
+your views, to say no sometimes, to experiment, you won't cross the
+bridge going from your wishes to reality.
+
+Trusting you is not enough a reason to do what you say, or dismiss my
+own priorities regarding a limited resource (time); that's as valid in
+a volunteer context as in a corporate one (only, few people will admit
+it before it's too late).
+
+So the best you can do is: take your time, focus on one thing you want
+to do, build it - and if you need someone to help you, take the time
+to find this person and explain why it's important to build it.
+
+Just don't expect anyone to follow what you say just because you are
+this or that (age, position, title, achievements, whatever).
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 15:44, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> you're totally wrong. a business plan and a marketing plan are the first things
+</I>&gt;<i> to be done in EVERY long-term project,
+</I>
+A plan is useful as long as the world it was designed in doesn't
+change; and strong as long as people who can act on it support it.
+
+&gt;<i> we can't attract new users and developers if it's not clear who we are and
+</I>&gt;<i> where we want to go, and how we want to go.
+</I>
+The goal is not users in themselves; growing these is a (very nice)
+by-product. The goal is building things that are useful, nice and
+original to us and others; while having fun, trust and pride in the
+process.
+
+&gt;<i> [... Skype]
+</I>&gt;<i> this is related to my above thought. this is not only a package request, this
+</I>&gt;<i> is related to our promises to the users:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - We will strive for ease of use (Values)
+</I>&gt;<i> - Have your fully-working system up and running really fast! &#160;(for you -
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia1)
+</I>&gt;<i> - We can make this better for developers and users. We can be a better place
+</I>&gt;<i> to nurture open source technologies.
+</I>
+How is Skype going to address these? (proprietary technology, with
+debatable quality and core trust issues, notwithstanding its future
+now that it's been acquired)
+
+&gt;<i> anyway this is not so important because i'm working
+</I>&gt;<i> on a long-term vision, that doesn't needs frequent meets.
+</I>
+Dismissing weekly, regular points of contacts for the sake of
+long-term vision is out of perspective. You will only bring ideas, not
+much more, if you can't discuss, follow on what happens in day-to-day
+life and build the contexts needed to make these happen.
+
+Romain
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+I have been following this thread and was inclined to join in, but
+each time Trish and/or Romain have written what I was going to say,
+only in much better style!
+
+One thing:
+Aside from the board there is but one section of the whole project
+able to force other sections: the dev-team (incuding packagers and
+sysadmins) if what they say is based on technical reasoning/facts.
+
+This being a community work we all can offer our ideas but we also
+have to be ready to convince others of the benefits of our ideas -
+that is the only force we can apply. We can only do that by
+communicating as often as possible, discuss, listen (ideally more than
+talk).
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Just as a side note:
+</I>&gt;<i> I have been following this thread and was inclined to join in, but
+</I>&gt;<i> each time Trish and/or Romain have written what I was going to say,
+</I>&gt;<i> only in much better style!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One thing:
+</I>&gt;<i> Aside from the board there is but one section of the whole project
+</I>&gt;<i> able to force other sections: the dev-team (incuding packagers and
+</I>&gt;<i> sysadmins) if what they say is based on technical reasoning/facts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This being a community work we all can offer our ideas but we also
+</I>&gt;<i> have to be ready to convince others of the benefits of our ideas -
+</I>&gt;<i> that is the only force we can apply. We can only do that by
+</I>&gt;<i> communicating as often as possible, discuss, listen (ideally more
+</I>&gt;<i> than talk).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks Wobo, and Romain, for nice clarity!
+
+When we first started the marketing team with Yorick, it seemed like
+we were trying to do the marketing plan ahead of the community
+development - telling them how to be, in effect - and the community
+(unsurprisingly) told Yorick (and by extension the rest of us) just
+exactly how they felt about *that*.
+
+I've since come all the way round to see that any marketing plan has
+to grow out of the community's wishes for where it will go; so I
+think we'll maybe be able to revisit it, in a year's time when we've
+got at least one more release notch on the Community Tally-Stick. We
+might even see that the only marketing plan we need is those Core
+Values...
+
+Tasks, however - there are always lots of those. Making the release
+public; encouraging people to become part of the community; starting
+discussions like the visual branding one; participating in the
+forward-thinking discussions over on Discuss and Devel - and as you
+say, listening, listening, listening.
+
+Comunication - great, ain't it?
+
+Cheers,
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Tasks, however - there are always lots of those. Making the release
+</I>&gt;<i> public; encouraging people to become part of the community; starting
+</I>&gt;<i> discussions like the visual branding one; participating in the
+</I>&gt;<i> forward-thinking discussions over on Discuss and Devel - and as you
+</I>&gt;<i> say, listening, listening, listening.
+</I>
+Not to forget the practical tasks of a marketing dept. like preparing
+demos, and other things for events, creating marketing stuff (fan
+articles), etc.
+(you know I had to add that!)
+
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+&gt;<i> 2011/6/13 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Tasks, however - there are always lots of those. Making the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; release public; encouraging people to become part of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; community; starting discussions like the visual branding one;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; participating in the forward-thinking discussions over on Discuss
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and Devel - and as you say, listening, listening, listening.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not to forget the practical tasks of a marketing dept. like
+</I>&gt;<i> preparing demos, and other things for events, creating marketing
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff (fan articles), etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> (you know I had to add that!)
+</I>
+8-) There's always a parade somewhere needing to be rained on...
+yes...
+
+
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+I want to do some proposals for banners in the next time. Do there
+already exists some short writings that I can use for banners?
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+Greetings,
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+
+&gt;<i> I want to do some proposals for banners in the next time. Do there
+</I>&gt;<i> already exists some short writings that I can use for banners?
+</I>
+Somewhere or another is the banner that Damien used a while back -
+I'll see if I can find it. The text for that one was French.
+
+If you can do a layout, with space blocked out for text, we can
+always add text as needed - it might be different text for different
+occasions. What do you think? You could also block out heading and
+image spaces, if you want.
+
+The good thing about changeable text is that it allows for different
+languages... 8-)
+
+I'll look forward to seeing your proposals!
+
+Cheers,
+
+
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+<PRE>Am Dienstag, 14. Juni 2011, 21:02:18 schrieb Patricia Fraser:
+&gt;<i> If you can do a layout, with space blocked out for text, we can
+</I>&gt;<i> always add text as needed - it might be different text for different
+</I>&gt;<i> occasions. What do you think? You could also block out heading and
+</I>&gt;<i> image spaces, if you want.
+</I>
+Hey Trish,
+
+was doing this very first draft:
+<A HREF="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jCchgw1ZvL6BndBnjk43RMWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jCchgw1ZvL6BndBnjk43RMWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink</A>
+Of course the text is editable. The artwork team will probably have access to
+ftp or something similar where we can archive our stuff.
+
+
+However, I guess we have to think about a whole font like in the logo. Because
+the different fonts in one work will always look glitchy.
+
+I never did a font. Alex made the font of the logo but I can't reach him :-/
+
+Greetings,
+Thorsten
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+
+&gt;<i> was doing this very first draft:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jCchgw1ZvL6BndBnjk43RMWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jCchgw1ZvL6BndBnjk43RMWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink</A>
+</I>
+Aha!
+
+&gt;<i> Of course the text is editable. The artwork team will probably have
+</I>&gt;<i> access to ftp or something similar where we can archive our stuff.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, I guess we have to think about a whole font like in the
+</I>&gt;<i> logo. Because the different fonts in one work will always look
+</I>&gt;<i> glitchy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I never did a font. Alex made the font of the logo but I can't
+</I>&gt;<i> reach him :-/
+</I>
+I wonder, did he make the whole font, or only the letters for the
+word mageia? If he only made the letters (which is likely), then we
+will always need to use a different font for text.
+
+The font choice is part of the Style set of decisions, so if the text
+is editable, then it can be changed to whatever we all decide.
+
+I wonder whether the variation in the fonts would be less obvious, if
+there was more white space on the poster? If the background was
+white, and you used colours rather than images to break up the layout?
+
+Just my 2c...
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
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+On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 23:10, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> However, I guess we have to think about a whole font like in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> logo. Because the different fonts in one work will always look
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> glitchy.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I never did a font. Alex made the font of the logo but I can't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reach him :-/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wonder, did he make the whole font, or only the letters for the
+</I>&gt;<i> word mageia? If he only made the letters (which is likely), then we
+</I>&gt;<i> will always need to use a different font for text.
+</I>
+He did it for the logo and I believe he started to do the whole font,
+but there was no concrete clue for that. We can still keep this as a
+long term project (and open a bug for that). Designing a full font is
+quite a lot of work.
+
+&gt;<i> The font choice is part of the Style set of decisions, so if the text
+</I>&gt;<i> is editable, then it can be changed to whatever we all decide.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wonder whether the variation in the fonts would be less obvious, if
+</I>&gt;<i> there was more white space on the poster? If the background was
+</I>&gt;<i> white, and you used colours rather than images to break up the layout?
+</I>
+Look at www.mageia.org/ CSS style font definitions (I can extract
+these for better access if you like). These fonts have been chosen to
+articulate with each other and the logo too - at least, that's a
+start.
+
+cheers!
+
+Romain
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>Am Dienstag, 14. Juni 2011, 23:24:48 schrieb Romain d'Alverny:
+&gt;<i> He did it for the logo and I believe he started to do the whole font,
+</I>&gt;<i> but there was no concrete clue for that. We can still keep this as a
+</I>&gt;<i> long term project (and open a bug for that). Designing a full font is
+</I>&gt;<i> quite a lot of work.
+</I>
+Yes it is :)
+Here is my current work:
+<A HREF="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/X92nA1iThQv3Om3EHNiPCMWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/X92nA1iThQv3Om3EHNiPCMWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink</A>
+
+Some of them of course need some fine tunning but ... if Alex isn' reacting,
+this is best we can get, I think.
+
+Regards,
+Thorsten
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2011/6/13 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Tasks, however - there are always lots of those. Making the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; release public; encouraging people to become part of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; community; starting discussions like the visual branding one;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; participating in the forward-thinking discussions over on Discuss
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; and Devel - and as you say, listening, listening, listening.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Not to forget the practical tasks of a marketing dept. like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; preparing demos, and other things for events, creating marketing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; stuff (fan articles), etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (you know I had to add that!)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 8-) There's always a parade somewhere needing to be rained on...
+</I>&gt;<i> yes...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+ok, i will answer to (the most) of your replies by a single e-mail....
+
+@ romain (first)
+
+ok, i understand, but this way you're saying this is only a comunication team.
+In a few words:
+
+* comunication-&gt;promote, comunicate about the project
+* marketing-&gt; attention to the users, rethinking of the project, long-term
+vision about the project and the products, target-oriented.
+
+you're saying we will have a brainstorming session, that will bring a list of
+ideas and we must advocate them (personally) to implement them. This is not
+marketing, i'm not saying is wrong, but it's not marketing and this will
+prevent the project to have a long-term vision and a group of dedicated people
+that work on the whole project (see my proposals).
+
+i will try to advocate my proposals personally but i can do it only in my
+spare time (that it's not much), a marketing-plan (updated often) supported by
+the council since its long-term vision to the action plan would have a
+stronger impact on the results...
+
+@ romain (second)
+
+&gt;<i>How is Skype going to address these? (proprietary technology, with
+</I>&gt;<i>debatable quality and core trust issues, notwithstanding its future
+</I>&gt;<i>now that it's been acquired)
+</I>
+this is one reason that explains why i would like a structured plan that will
+guarantee the goals of the project... how can we see &quot;For people&quot; when a lot
+of people use it and asks for it in the repos? what is the balance between
+&quot;for people&quot;-&quot;open source&quot;? a plan is thought for these reasons, and the
+action plan is needed to adapt the project to the long-term vision, if anyone
+will act by himself (and mabye opposite to others) the project will remain
+only another fork, whatever things you say....
+
+
+@ wobo
+
+there are things that are not motivated by technical reasons, but marketing
+reasons... it's quite difficult to advocate to a developer one thing he s not
+interested in... without considering that 10 marketing people should mean tons
+of e-mails to the developers to convince them to implement their features...
+
+@ patricia
+
+&gt;<i>When we first started the marketing team with Yorick, it seemed like
+</I>&gt;<i>we were trying to do the marketing plan ahead of the community
+</I>&gt;<i>development - telling them how to be, in effect - and the community
+</I>&gt;<i>(unsurprisingly) told Yorick (and by extension the rest of us) just
+</I>&gt;<i>exactly how they felt about *that*.
+</I>
+and so why anyone told me the plan wasn't requested instead of letting me
+working on it?
+
+
+&gt;<i>Tasks, however - there are always lots of those. Making the release
+</I>&gt;<i>public; encouraging people to become part of the community; starting
+</I>&gt;<i>discussions like the visual branding one; participating in the
+</I>&gt;<i>forward-thinking discussions over on Discuss and Devel - and as you
+</I>&gt;<i>say, listening, listening, listening.
+</I>
+ok, but this is done by every linux project (even community-driven), why do
+you think our is the best one? because we're working on it? the fact is that
+we will remain only a one of the various fork, weaking the whole linux
+community furthermore....
+
+
+My conclusions are: i'm really disappointed about the direction of marketing
+team, i've decided to leave mandriva proper because i've found more interest
+about it in mageia than in mandriva ( i remember many lacks in MUG and in
+customer support, for istance), i will propose my ideas and i will try to
+advocate them, but now it's clear to me that the great changes of mageia are
+not other than words. in fact we're managed by a group of people (without
+power?) and developers that could implement the lacking features in mandriva
+instead of creating a new fork (has mandriva ever not allowed contributors to
+implement their favourite features?) and spending all this huge energy (and
+time).
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+I lost track of all the ideas which were written in mails so far, so I
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+&gt;<i> Pls see <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=568">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=568</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I lost track of all the ideas which were written in mails so far, so I
+</I>&gt;<i> am not sure if this was already proposed.
+</I>
+This is a *brilliant* idea. I wonder if we could have a forum group called
+&quot;Mageia Saves the Day&quot; and encourage people to post there? Then we could
+put a few recent ones on the website and add a link...
+
+Thanks Wobo!
+
+--
+Patricia Fraser
+on the move
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Pls see <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=568">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=568</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I lost track of all the ideas which were written in mails so far, so I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> am not sure if this was already proposed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a *brilliant* idea. I wonder if we could have a forum group called
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia Saves the Day&quot; and encourage people to post there? Then we could
+</I>&gt;<i> put a few recent ones on the website and add a link...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks Wobo!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+What about a special page (like a guestbook) &quot;Stories with Mageia ...&quot;
+where they can post without a registration etc.?
+
+Greetings
+</PRE>
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+&gt;<i> Am 16.06.2011 15:09, schrieb Patricia Fraser:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Pls see <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=568">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=568</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I lost track of all the ideas which were written in mails so far, so I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> am not sure if this was already proposed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is a *brilliant* idea. I wonder if we could have a forum group called
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia Saves the Day&quot; and encourage people to post there? Then we could
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> put a few recent ones on the website and add a link...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks Wobo!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What about a special page (like a guestbook) &quot;Stories with Mageia ...&quot; where
+</I>&gt;<i> they can post without a registration etc.?
+</I>
+This is one way, another option may be to start with some stories
+gathered in the forum and then add a &quot;Send in Your Mageia Success
+story!&quot;, which opens a contact form the user can fill in without
+having to register - contents to be forwarded to an editor (or team)
+who will put it online on the page. This could be easily set in place
+with Wordpress.
+
+It could be done in a semi-automatic way (like comments to blogs) but
+I'd prefer to put some manual work into such a page, if handled with
+care it can be an important asset, if handled without any care it may
+even give a negative impression.
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+&gt;<i> Am 16.06.2011 15:09, schrieb Patricia Fraser:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Pls see <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=568">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=568</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I lost track of all the ideas which were written in mails so
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; far, so I am not sure if this was already proposed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This is a *brilliant* idea. I wonder if we could have a forum
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; group called &quot;Mageia Saves the Day&quot; and encourage people to post
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; there? Then we could put a few recent ones on the website and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; add a link...
+</I>Good idea, let's see how long it needs to get this sub forum :/
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What about a special page (like a guestbook) &quot;Stories with Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> ...&quot; where they can post without a registration etc.?
+</I>How fast can you run, when any of the sysadmins read this? :D
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+&gt;<i> &gt; What about a special page (like a guestbook) &quot;Stories with Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ...&quot; where they can post without a registration etc.?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How fast can you run, when any of the sysadmins read this? :D
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Pff, I'm not chicken-hearted. I will calm them with my charm ... and
+tonnes of chocolate probably :D
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+&gt;<i> Am 16.06.2011 15:21, schrieb Oliver Burger:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ...&quot; where they can post without a registration etc.?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; How fast can you run, when any of the sysadmins read this? :D
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Pff, I'm not chicken-hearted. I will calm them with my charm ...
+</I>&gt;<i> and tonnes of chocolate probably :D
+</I>
+Stay away from public places with big fires in the middle :D
+
+No, coming to the point. Some kind of form - like Wobo described -
+could be done relatively simple I think.
+We could make it send text-only data via mail to people in charge
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+I would recommend not using any automatism without moderators, because
+that way we might open our website to rubbish (and give some people
+heart attacks).
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; schrieb am 16.06.2011
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 16.06.2011 15:21, schrieb Oliver Burger:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ...&quot; where they can post without a registration etc.?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; How fast can you run, when any of the sysadmins read this? :D
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Pff, I'm not chicken-hearted. I will calm them with my charm ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and tonnes of chocolate probably :D
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Stay away from public places with big fires in the middle :D
+</I>
+I learned the french prefer constructions with sharp blades...
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, coming to the point. Some kind of form - like Wobo described - could be done relatively simple I think.
+</I>&gt;<i> We could make it send text-only data via mail to people in charge (marcomm?).
+</I>&gt;<i> I would recommend not using any automatism without moderators, because that way we might open our website to rubbish (and give some people heart attacks).
+</I>
+That was the idea.
+
+~~
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+&gt;<i> Am Dienstag, 14. Juni 2011, 23:24:48 schrieb Romain d'Alverny:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> He did it for the logo and I believe he started to do the whole font,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but there was no concrete clue for that. We can still keep this as a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> long term project (and open a bug for that). Designing a full font is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> quite a lot of work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes it is :)
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is my current work:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/X92nA1iThQv3Om3EHNiPCMWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/X92nA1iThQv3Om3EHNiPCMWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some of them of course need some fine tunning but ... if Alex isn' reacting,
+</I>&gt;<i> this is best we can get, I think.
+</I>
+Looks great, congrats!
+
+Do you use a font builder tool to help you design these? like
+fontforge, or something else? would help adjust and spot the little
+details.
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>Am 17.06.2011 17:16, schrieb Romain d'Alverny:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 23:37, Thorsten van Lil&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am Dienstag, 14. Juni 2011, 23:24:48 schrieb Romain d'Alverny:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> He did it for the logo and I believe he started to do the whole font,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but there was no concrete clue for that. We can still keep this as a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> long term project (and open a bug for that). Designing a full font is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> quite a lot of work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes it is :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here is my current work:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/X92nA1iThQv3Om3EHNiPCMWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/X92nA1iThQv3Om3EHNiPCMWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Some of them of course need some fine tunning but ... if Alex isn' reacting,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this is best we can get, I think.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looks great, congrats!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you use a font builder tool to help you design these? like
+</I>&gt;<i> fontforge, or something else? would help adjust and spot the little
+</I>&gt;<i> details.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+For the moment I did those with Inkscape. I used the letters of the
+mageia logo and modified them to new letters. I thought to import them
+in fontforge later. Do you think it's better/easier to jump to it now?
+
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+&gt;<i> Am 17.06.2011 17:16, schrieb Romain d'Alverny:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do you use a font builder tool to help you design these? like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fontforge, or something else? would help adjust and spot the little
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> details.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the moment I did those with Inkscape. I used the letters of the mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> logo and modified them to new letters. I thought to import them in fontforge
+</I>&gt;<i> later. Do you think it's better/easier to jump to it now?
+</I>
+Easier, I don't know :-) but better, for sure. It will help to adjust
+current glyphs and better design the next ones, while getting a sense
+of what can be improved (and exporting them to standard font files to
+test them).
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+
+somebody posted another press review about Mga1 in the forums. Here
+you are:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/06/18/mageia-1-0-review/">http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/06/18/mageia-1-0-review/</A>
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+
+I found it an useful review. I learn something new. I learn about the
+filesystem NILFS. I agree with the writer only fuly functional programmes
+should be in the Mageia distribution. Better to have less programmes in the
+repositories and working well than have a lot of crap packages. It is very
+frustating to have programmes which are not usable very well.
+I disagree with the point to abandon the CD-release. There should a
+CD-release available. Perhaps a CD-release with the XFCE-desktop. I prefer
+this desktop-environment above GNOME, because the great tool mass renaming
+in Thunar file manager. I also like E17, because it is very customizable.
+There should come metapackages for example multimedia-support with all the
+codecs and necessary plugins for Firefox, Chromium browser and other
+browsers integrated in it.
+
+GReetz,
+
+Zwikkle
+
+
+[...]
+&gt;<i> Today's Topics:
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+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Another review for the list (Oliver Burger)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:30:19 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> From: Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Another review for the list
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">201106191930.19251.oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Trish (hi others),
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> somebody posted another press review about Mga1 in the forums. Here
+</I>&gt;<i> you are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/06/18/mageia-1-0-review/">http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/06/18/mageia-1-0-review/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>Best people of Mageia,
+
+I did finally succeed in uploading my self made Apekozzi font on the
+internet.
+It is originally for the use of book shelves of 2 centimetres in height. But
+this font
+is available for free for Mageia users. It is my contribution to the Mageia
+distribution and community.
+
+Greetz,
+
+Zwikkle
+
+website to see the Apekozzi font for yourself:
+
+<A HREF="http://inkscapestuff.org/CONTENT/content-files/142905-apekozzi%20font%202011-05%20.svg">http://inkscapestuff.org/CONTENT/content-files/142905-apekozzi%20font%202011-05%20.svg</A>
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+<PRE>I'm sending this to both lists because it is related to both teams.
+
+Hi,
+
+I will send an article away tomorrow evening to German print magazine
+LinuxUser. They will publish a cover DVD with mageia along with the
+article in their next issue. As discussed at Linuxtag Berlin the
+editor offered to produce an extra batch of 1000 DVDs (with the
+magazine's branding) and give it to us costfree. This was discusssed
+with Anne and Romain at Linuxtag Berlin.
+
+Now the editor needs an official label and a high res complete logo -
+to be sent to him tomorrow night.
+
+1. Do we already have such an official label? If so pls point me to
+the EPS file. If not, would it be possible to have one until tomorrow?
+
+2. Do we have a high resolution EPS file of the official logo (for
+publications in print magazines)? If so pls point me to the file, if
+not, is it possible to get one - this is important to have our logo on
+the DVD labels and in the magazine.
+
+--
+Cheers
+wobo
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+
+On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 16:57, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Now the editor needs an official label and a high res complete logo -
+</I>&gt;<i> to be sent to him tomorrow night.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Do we already have such an official label? If so pls point me to
+</I>&gt;<i> the EPS file. If not, would it be possible to have one until tomorrow?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Do we have a high resolution EPS file of the official logo (for
+</I>&gt;<i> publications in print magazines)? If so pls point me to the file, if
+</I>&gt;<i> not, is it possible to get one - this is important to have our logo on
+</I>&gt;<i> the DVD labels and in the magazine.
+</I>
+I'm late posting it, I've been wondering where to post the temp files;
+I sent them on Flickr for now:
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mageia_org/sets/72157627014023456/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/mageia_org/sets/72157627014023456/</A> -
+those have been made by a friend of a friend. Not at full resolution
+so far, but if some get a go, we can ask Julie (the artist) to provide
+high res stuff.
+
+I know some other have been posted on mageia-artwork as well, some days ago.
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Thorsten van Lil</B>
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+&gt;<i> I'm late posting it, I've been wondering where to post the temp files;
+</I>&gt;<i> I sent them on Flickr for now:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mageia_org/sets/72157627014023456/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/mageia_org/sets/72157627014023456/</A> -
+</I>&gt;<i> those have been made by a friend of a friend. Not at full resolution
+</I>&gt;<i> so far, but if some get a go, we can ask Julie (the artist) to provide
+</I>&gt;<i> high res stuff.
+</I>
+Hey, looks nice.
+I vote for this:
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mageia_org/5856485157/in/set-72157627014023456/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/mageia_org/5856485157/in/set-72157627014023456/</A>
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+Thorsten
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+<PRE>Thx Thorsten and Romain,
+
+I'd also go for a round label. Nice touch: all proposals are suited
+for international use (no text to translate!)!
+
+So, is it possible to decide on one of them and have it in SVG or EPS
+until tomorrow night?
+
+The logo on <A HREF="http://www.mediafire.com/file/azyck9q90cv1sa8/mageia-logo-final.svg">http://www.mediafire.com/file/azyck9q90cv1sa8/mageia-logo-final.svg</A>
+is totally sufficient, thx - the graphic wizards at LinuxUser can use
+SVG :)
+
+--
+Cheers
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+ <B>Andr&#233; Barbosa</B>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+we used to start this conversation weeks, if not months ago but I
+don't remember us settling it.
+
+The question is: how do we manage the Mageia logo (licensing, do's,
+don't's), especially regarding official uses (regarding the
+association) and larger, derivatives uses (local communities,
+derivative distribution, &quot;supported by/made with Mageia&quot; buttons,
+etc.).
+
+That translates into:
+ - a guidelines book (what to do, what not to do), intended both at
+the artwork/marcom team and at anyone willing to use the logo;
+ - some ready-made derivatives
+ - a clear license applied to all graphics
+ - all that made available into what is, for now, this rather simple
+page: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/about/media/">http://mageia.org/en/about/media/</A>
+
+
+I have some ideas (official logo being CC-By-ND for everyone, but, of
+course, for the artwork team or appointed people by the association;
+basic elements (font, blueprint) and derivatives being all CC-By-SA,
+guidelines explaining the in and out's), but I am really not sure,
+so... here's the discussion.
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+Hi
+
+There are upstream websites that explain how to install their software in
+various distributions. A simple way to help Mageia to be known would be to
+contact those upstream projects one by one
+
+Things will be better once we have Mageia App Db because then we will be able
+to point them at a permanent URL for their software, but maybe we could start
+already ?
+
+Examples :
+- <A HREF="http://spellbreaker.org/~chrender/fizmo/">http://spellbreaker.org/~chrender/fizmo/</A>
+- <A HREF="http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html">http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html</A>
+
+What do you think ?
+
+Samuel
+
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+
+On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 09:58, Samuel Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> There are upstream websites that explain how to install their software in
+</I>&gt;<i> various distributions. A simple way to help Mageia to be known would be to
+</I>&gt;<i> contact those upstream projects one by one
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Things will be better once we have Mageia App Db because then we will be able
+</I>&gt;<i> to point them at a permanent URL for their software, but maybe we could start
+</I>&gt;<i> already ?
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think ?
+</I>
+Yes! For one given project, we need to:
+ 1. have the software packaged,
+ 2. contact the project website to notify them and have them tell about it:
+ - citing the distribution (Mageia) and using the logo,
+ - giving the process to install the softwarer (ideally, just
+urpmi &lt;software&gt; or package manager =&gt; install =&gt; &lt;software&gt;) ?
+ 3. a documented process in the wiki or elsewhere
+ 4. people to do it
+
+Or should something else/different be done?
+
+Romain
+</PRE>
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+
+&gt;<i> There are upstream websites that explain how to install their
+</I>&gt;<i> software in various distributions. A simple way to help Mageia to be
+</I>&gt;<i> known would be to contact those upstream projects one by one
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Things will be better once we have Mageia App Db because then we will
+</I>&gt;<i> be able to point them at a permanent URL for their software, but
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe we could start already ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Examples :
+</I>&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://spellbreaker.org/~chrender/fizmo/">http://spellbreaker.org/~chrender/fizmo/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html">http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think ?
+</I>
+Sounds good. I don&#180;t have time this week to follow up, but I&#180;ll take a
+look, and maybe have something ready for people to
+
+
+
+--
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+<LI><A HREF="000401.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
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+<LI><A HREF="000405.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000406.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
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+<LI><A HREF="000419.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000438.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Barbosa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000396.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Getting the Donations requests out there
+</A><A NAME="396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000409.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000411.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000420.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000423.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000427.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000434.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000437.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000424.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000426.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000431.html">[Mageia-marketing] Another review for the list
+</A><A NAME="431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000393.html">[Mageia-marketing] Getting the Donations requests out there
+</A><A NAME="393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000395.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week, Thursday
+</A><A NAME="395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000398.html">[Mageia-marketing] &quot;Job offer&quot; : mentoring program coordinator
+</A><A NAME="398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000404.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000410.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000412.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000414.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000416.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000421.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000442.html">[Mageia-marketing] Advertise Mageia in upstream websites
+</A><A NAME="442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000413.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000415.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000418.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000422.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000425.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000429.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000436.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000400.html">[Mageia-marketing] &quot;Job offer&quot; : mentoring program coordinator
+</A><A NAME="400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000402.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000397.html">[Mageia-marketing] &quot;Job offer&quot; : mentoring program coordinator
+</A><A NAME="397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000440.html">[Mageia-marketing] Advertise Mageia in upstream websites
+</A><A NAME="440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000394.html">[Mageia-marketing] Getting the Donations requests out there
+</A><A NAME="394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000403.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000407.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000408.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000417.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000428.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000430.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000435.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000439.html">[Mageia-marketing] Logo, derivatives, license, guidelines
+</A><A NAME="439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000441.html">[Mageia-marketing] Advertise Mageia in upstream websites
+</A><A NAME="441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000399.html">[Mageia-marketing] Discussion about release cycle
+</A><A NAME="399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000432.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 8, Issue 12; remarks about Mageia revie on Linuxbsdos.com
+</A><A NAME="432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000433.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 8, Issue 11; Apekozzi Font (May 2011 by Zwikkle)
+</A><A NAME="433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Jun 30 13:58:13 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Jun 30 14:03:18 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>June 2011 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jun 6 23:03:16 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Jun 30 13:58:13 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 51<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000393.html">[Mageia-marketing] Getting the Donations requests out there
+</A><A NAME="393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000394.html">[Mageia-marketing] Getting the Donations requests out there
+</A><A NAME="394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000395.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week, Thursday
+</A><A NAME="395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000396.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Getting the Donations requests out there
+</A><A NAME="396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000397.html">[Mageia-marketing] &quot;Job offer&quot; : mentoring program coordinator
+</A><A NAME="397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000398.html">[Mageia-marketing] &quot;Job offer&quot; : mentoring program coordinator
+</A><A NAME="398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000399.html">[Mageia-marketing] Discussion about release cycle
+</A><A NAME="399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000400.html">[Mageia-marketing] &quot;Job offer&quot; : mentoring program coordinator
+</A><A NAME="400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000401.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000402.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000403.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000404.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000405.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000406.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000407.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000408.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000409.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000410.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000411.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000412.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000413.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000414.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000415.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000416.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000417.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000418.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000419.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000420.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000421.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000422.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000424.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000423.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000425.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000426.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000427.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000428.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000429.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000430.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000431.html">[Mageia-marketing] Another review for the list
+</A><A NAME="431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000432.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 8, Issue 12; remarks about Mageia revie on Linuxbsdos.com
+</A><A NAME="432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000433.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 8, Issue 11; Apekozzi Font (May 2011 by Zwikkle)
+</A><A NAME="433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000434.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000435.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000436.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000437.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000438.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Barbosa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000439.html">[Mageia-marketing] Logo, derivatives, license, guidelines
+</A><A NAME="439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000440.html">[Mageia-marketing] Advertise Mageia in upstream websites
+</A><A NAME="440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000441.html">[Mageia-marketing] Advertise Mageia in upstream websites
+</A><A NAME="441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000442.html">[Mageia-marketing] Advertise Mageia in upstream websites
+</A><A NAME="442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000443.html">[Mageia-marketing] looking for contributors southern France
+</A><A NAME="443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>William BARNEAU /ekenos
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Jun 30 13:58:13 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Jun 30 14:03:18 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i>
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+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+ </HEAD>
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+ <a name="start"></A>
+ <h1>June 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jun 6 23:03:16 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Jun 30 13:58:13 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 51<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000397.html">[Mageia-marketing] &quot;Job offer&quot; : mentoring program coordinator
+</A><A NAME="397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000398.html">[Mageia-marketing] &quot;Job offer&quot; : mentoring program coordinator
+</A><A NAME="398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000400.html">[Mageia-marketing] &quot;Job offer&quot; : mentoring program coordinator
+</A><A NAME="400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000435.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000436.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000437.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000438.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Barbosa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000396.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Getting the Donations requests out there
+</A><A NAME="396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000434.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000420.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000421.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000422.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000424.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000423.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000425.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000426.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000427.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000440.html">[Mageia-marketing] Advertise Mageia in upstream websites
+</A><A NAME="440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000441.html">[Mageia-marketing] Advertise Mageia in upstream websites
+</A><A NAME="441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000442.html">[Mageia-marketing] Advertise Mageia in upstream websites
+</A><A NAME="442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000431.html">[Mageia-marketing] Another review for the list
+</A><A NAME="431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000413.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000414.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000415.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000416.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000417.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000418.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000428.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000429.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000430.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000399.html">[Mageia-marketing] Discussion about release cycle
+</A><A NAME="399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000393.html">[Mageia-marketing] Getting the Donations requests out there
+</A><A NAME="393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000394.html">[Mageia-marketing] Getting the Donations requests out there
+</A><A NAME="394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000401.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000402.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000403.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000404.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000405.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000406.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000407.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000408.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000409.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000410.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000411.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000412.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000419.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000439.html">[Mageia-marketing] Logo, derivatives, license, guidelines
+</A><A NAME="439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000443.html">[Mageia-marketing] looking for contributors southern France
+</A><A NAME="443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>William BARNEAU /ekenos
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000433.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 8, Issue 11; Apekozzi Font (May 2011 by Zwikkle)
+</A><A NAME="433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000432.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 8, Issue 12; remarks about Mageia revie on Linuxbsdos.com
+</A><A NAME="432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000395.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week, Thursday
+</A><A NAME="395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Jun 30 13:58:13 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Jun 30 14:03:18 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
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+ <h1>June 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jun 6 23:03:16 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Jun 30 13:58:13 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 51<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01307394196- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000393.html">[Mageia-marketing] Getting the Donations requests out there
+</A><A NAME="393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01307394196-01307395701- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000394.html">[Mageia-marketing] Getting the Donations requests out there
+</A><A NAME="394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01307394196-01307395701-01307432636- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000396.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Getting the Donations requests out there
+</A><A NAME="396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01307395710- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000395.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week, Thursday
+</A><A NAME="395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01307885438- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000397.html">[Mageia-marketing] &quot;Job offer&quot; : mentoring program coordinator
+</A><A NAME="397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01307885438-01307891074- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000398.html">[Mageia-marketing] &quot;Job offer&quot; : mentoring program coordinator
+</A><A NAME="398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01307885438-01307891074-01307932139- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000400.html">[Mageia-marketing] &quot;Job offer&quot; : mentoring program coordinator
+</A><A NAME="400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01307913604- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000399.html">[Mageia-marketing] Discussion about release cycle
+</A><A NAME="399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01307957872- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000401.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01307957872-01307960281- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000402.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01307957872-01307962100- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000403.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01307957872-01307962100-01307971472- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000405.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01307957872-01307962100-01307971472-01307979776- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000407.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01307957872-01307965238- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000404.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01307957872-01307965238-01307972695- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000406.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01307957872-01307965238-01307972695-01307980104- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000408.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01307957872-01307965238-01307972695-01307980104-01307985402- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000409.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01307957872-01307965238-01307972695-01307980104-01307985402-01307988696- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000410.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01307957872-01307965238-01307972695-01307980104-01307985402-01307988696-01307988987- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000411.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01307957872-01307965238-01307972695-01307980104-01307985402-01307988696-01307988987-01307989535- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000412.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01307957872-01307965238-01307972695-01307980104-01307985402-01307988696-01307988987-01307989535-01308159454- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000419.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01308063051- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000413.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01308063051-01308078138- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000414.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01308063051-01308078138-01308082838- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000415.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01308063051-01308078138-01308082838-01308085853- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000416.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01308063051-01308078138-01308082838-01308085853-01308086688- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000417.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01308063051-01308078138-01308082838-01308085853-01308086688-01308087429- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000418.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01308063051-01308078138-01308082838-01308085853-01308086688-01308087429-01308323796- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000428.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01308063051-01308078138-01308082838-01308085853-01308086688-01308087429-01308323796-01308324603- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000429.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01308063051-01308078138-01308082838-01308085853-01308086688-01308087429-01308323796-01308324603-01308325280- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000430.html">[Mageia-marketing] Banner writings
+</A><A NAME="430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01308226087- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000420.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01308226087-01308229790- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000421.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01308226087-01308229790-01308229993- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000422.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01308226087-01308229790-01308229993-01308230487- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000424.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01308226087-01308229790-01308229993-01308230487-01308231759- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000425.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01308226087-01308229790-01308229993-01308230487-01308231759-01308232695- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000426.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01308226087-01308229790-01308229993-01308230487-01308231759-01308232695-01308233428- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000427.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01308226087-01308229790-01308229993-01308230520- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000423.html">[Mageia-marketing] additional idea
+</A><A NAME="423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01308504619- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000431.html">[Mageia-marketing] Another review for the list
+</A><A NAME="431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01308593340- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000432.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 8, Issue 12; remarks about Mageia revie on Linuxbsdos.com
+</A><A NAME="432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01308648674- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000433.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 8, Issue 11; Apekozzi Font (May 2011 by Zwikkle)
+</A><A NAME="433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01308668235- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000434.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01308668235-01308669455- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000435.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01308668235-01308669455-01308669790- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000436.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01308670699- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000437.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01308670699-01308671024- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000438.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] [Urgent!] Official DVD label and logo
+</A><A NAME="438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Barbosa
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01308905812- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000439.html">[Mageia-marketing] Logo, derivatives, license, guidelines
+</A><A NAME="439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01309247910- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000440.html">[Mageia-marketing] Advertise Mageia in upstream websites
+</A><A NAME="440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01309247910-01309253123- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000441.html">[Mageia-marketing] Advertise Mageia in upstream websites
+</A><A NAME="441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01309247910-01309256148- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000442.html">[Mageia-marketing] Advertise Mageia in upstream websites
+</A><A NAME="442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01309435093- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000443.html">[Mageia-marketing] looking for contributors southern France
+</A><A NAME="443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>William BARNEAU /ekenos
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Jun 30 13:58:13 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Jun 30 14:03:18 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
+ Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> &gt; Now, as for holding a meeting, as far as I am concerned, it would
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; happen in the 8-18 UTC time frame - as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; suggests, 15 UTC on Thursday would fit (or Monday, but we miss people
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; then; or Wednesday but we miss people too). Or if we want to get with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Graham, we need to do it way sooner in the morning or later in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; evening (and I won't be there then).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So let's try next Thursday at 15 UTC on #mageia-marcom and in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; meantime, start the work on the list and on the channel, anytime, with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; people being there and ready.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> for me it's ok. in the while i'll set up all the mrketing pages in the
+</I>current
+&gt;<i> mageia wiki.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ________________________
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcello
+</I>
+hi,
+
+i'm sorry but i can't attend again the meeting of thursday, i passed the last
+exam (i'm studying economics) and now i must prepare the graduation thesis :-)
+
+this is the first draft i wrote for the meeting, but due to time lack it's
+quite blank:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan</A>
+
+i hope to contribute more in the next future to this team, the marketing work
+is precious for the success of the distro (and we can't miss it!)
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>Hi Marcello,
+
+Good luck and strength with the thesis! and thanks for getting the
+ball rolling.
+
+&gt;<i> this is the first draft i wrote for the meeting, but due to time
+</I>&gt;<i> lack it's quite blank:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan</A>
+</I>
+Okay, now that you've put the framework together and linked the Core
+Values (lots of marketing contrib in there!), we just need to plug in
+some more content. The current Vision page on the old marketing wiki:
+
+<A HREF="http://ooogear.co.nz/mageiawiki/index.php?title=VisionDraft">http://ooogear.co.nz/mageiawiki/index.php?title=VisionDraft</A>
+
+has several suggestions, all really re-works of the sense of Mageia
+we all got at the beginning.
+
+I like this one:
+
+Our vision is...
+
+ * To nurture a vibrant, collaborative Community of innovation...
+ * To create powerful, reliable technology by and for our greatest asset, people...
+ * To deliver a usable, Open Source software platform for novice
+ and power users alike.
+
+But they can *all* use work. Could we maybe go over to the marketing
+wiki and have a really good stab at getting a final draft Vision
+Statement done before the meeting? There's loads of discussion there
+to help us work out what we should be achieving - and there's the
+Core Values to check to see if they agree (they must).
+
+It would be good if the meeting could decide on a Vision statement,
+so we could pass it up to the board for consideration - then next
+week, maybe the Mission Statement... we'll get there yet!
+
+After the Mission statement, we should have enough in from Artwork to
+be able to put together Branding Elements (Target Market can maybe
+wait until we get up to Release Candidates - we don't really need it
+until we're going out to woo new users.)
+
+&gt;<i> i hope to contribute more in the next future to this team, the
+</I>&gt;<i> marketing work is precious for the success of the distro (and we
+</I>&gt;<i> can't miss it!)
+</I>
+Good luck with everything Marcello - see you back here soon!
+
+--
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+Well it's a little dated now, but wanted to post this link here as an
+FYI. We're all pulling on the bootstraps in order to make this the best
+Mageia that it can be :)
+
+<A HREF="http://NorthTech.EU/content/20110215/mageia-1-alpha-1-released-today">http://NorthTech.EU/content/20110215/mageia-1-alpha-1-released-today</A>
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+
+Let me know if there's anything too much over the top so I can make
+corrections if necessary, but otherwise, it's pretty much just another
+announcement pointing to the official announcement.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+- --
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 01:57, Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Let me know if there's anything too much over the top so I can make
+</I>&gt;<i> corrections if necessary, but otherwise, it's pretty much just another
+</I>&gt;<i> announcement pointing to the official announcement.
+</I>
+Looks good. :)
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+<PRE>Reminder:
+&gt;<i> So let's try next Thursday at 15 UTC on #mageia-marcom and in the
+</I>&gt;<i> meantime, start the work on the list and on the channel, anytime, with
+</I>&gt;<i> people being there and ready.
+</I>
+Let's do it again.
+
+
+On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 16:53, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Mageia 1 will be a release providing typical ISOs, roughly equivalent to a MDV
+</I>&gt;<i> Free++, in DVD, liveCD, VMs forms - those ISOs will allow for desktop and
+</I>&gt;<i> server deployment at least, minimal systems setup (from the dualarch).
+</I>&gt;<i> There's room for improvement in how we present/dispatch things. Again,
+</I>&gt;<i> this must be open and discussed on -discuss in a guided manner before
+</I>&gt;<i> we close it, and help present the final images in June.
+</I>
+We ought to discuss these bits at this evening Council meeting.
+
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - decide which way (and means) to promote mageia
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wobo had an interesting start for previous Council meeting, but we ran
+</I>&gt;<i> out of time/energy to get to there. Next week I guess.
+</I>
+Wobo posted it on the wiki: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spreading">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spreading</A>
+
+
+&gt;<i> All in all, that makes quite a big list of things to manage. So it
+</I>&gt;<i> would be good to prioritize and dispatch:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- more communication topics: comm tools, promotion stategy, bonjour,
+</I>&gt;<i> blog, website
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- more marketing topics: mission/vision, pitch, Mageia 1 product presentation
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Reminder: alpha 2 is for March 15th* (in 19 days) and it would be
+</I>&gt;<i> really great that by then (for its release):
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- some work is done on the pitch (that means vision/mission is
+</I>&gt;<i> squared a bit as well and pushed by the board);
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- product presentation discussion has started on -discuss
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- comm team sets up.
+</I>
+It is next Tuesday. :-)
+
+
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Patricia, Marcello, all,
+
+thanks a lot for keeping on all this!
+
+On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 19:29, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Our vision is...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* To nurture a vibrant, collaborative Community of innovation...
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* To create powerful, reliable technology by and for our greatest asset, people...
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* To deliver a usable, Open Source software platform for novice
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160;and power users alike.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But they can *all* use work. Could we maybe go over to the marketing
+</I>&gt;<i> wiki and have a really good stab at getting a final draft Vision
+</I>&gt;<i> Statement done before the meeting? There's loads of discussion there
+</I>&gt;<i> to help us work out what we should be achieving - and there's the
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Values to check to see if they agree (they must).
+</I>
+Yep. And really, each point shows a different, yet crucial bit of the project.
+
+On a side note, about the coming alpha2: we are going to release it on
+next Tuesday and all that will go into it must be freezed by this
+coming Friday evening.
+
+What relies on some marcom work is, among other things, the main
+message under which this alpha2 will be released: it's still an alpha,
+unstable, still for contributors/testers but it has fixes from the
+previous one, more packages included, better artwork. This message is
+crucial as it will be used for the website, on the blogs, and so on.
+It's not only about announcing the alpha2 release in itself than about
+announcing the alpha2 milestone in Mageia 1 build process (that is,
+there are other releases coming and there is room for contributors).
+
+In this short timeframe, if we are quick enough, we can still insert a
+few screens during the installing process, to promote the project, the
+product and the contribution process (Alexn83 will produce the screen,
+but what goes into it exactly and how we welcome users/contributors on
+the start page is still to be done).
+
+So what needs to be done?
+ - try to attend this evening Council meeting for those who can (19:30
+UTC on #mageia-meeting)
+ - please push your ideas and whether you want to take on some
+coordination work with the artwork team
+ - try to attend marcom meeting this Thursday to square the message
+for the release
+
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>2011/3/7 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - decide which way (and means) to promote mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wobo had an interesting start for previous Council meeting, but we ran
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> out of time/energy to get to there. Next week I guess.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wobo posted it on the wiki: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spreading">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spreading</A>
+</I>
+I have the ideas in my head and will fill thjem in on that wiki page.
+I will post on the i18n and marketing lists about this whole system
+within this week.
+
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+Meeting in progress on #mageia-meeting, see the meetbot logs for
+details.
+
+Each team (of which Marketing is one) will need to do a short weekly
+summary of what happened on their list, in IRC and at their meetings,
+so others don't need to wade through the whole log, list, IRC to find
+out what went on in that team - and to inform the board for their
+meetings.
+
+We need to also have a rep and a spare on the council - anyone else
+here? We can do this!
+
+If we ever get to have meetings or do anything... 8-) shouldn't be a
+problem?
+
+Cheers,
+
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+
+On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 21:09, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We need to also have a rep and a spare on the council - anyone else
+</I>&gt;<i> here? We can do this!
+</I>
+To make things a bit more visual, you can see there are
+empty/available chairs for marketing and communication teams
+representatives here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org:council">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org:council</A>
+:<i>-)
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+&gt;<i> &gt; We need to also have a rep and a spare on the council - anyone
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; else here? We can do this!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To make things a bit more visual, you can see there are
+</I>&gt;<i> empty/available chairs for marketing and communication teams
+</I>&gt;<i> representatives here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org:council">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org:council</A>
+</I>
+Damn, nothing *but* empty chairs, ain't it? 8-/ Are we making
+marketing/comms one team (makes sense if we are)?
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+below a request received on the press@ contact and I believe this is
+the best place to sort it out (btw, we ought to know how we dispatch
+this address within communication team as well).
+
+Welcome are your input and handling (how to refine this proposal, what
+to propose, who to propose this to, should we even do it or not)?
+
+Thanks!
+
+Romain
+
+---------- Forwarded message ----------
+From: Swapnil Bhartiya &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">editor at muktware.com</A>&gt;
+Date: Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 20:43
+Subject: Re: Media Query: Interview Request With Mageia
+
+Hi Romain,
+
+I just learnt about the Mageia Planet launch, congratulations. It's
+good news for users and especially for Muktware, as we have been
+keeping a close eye on the development of Mageia ever since the fork
+was announced. The Mageia Planet will be a very good resource for
+staying updated with ongoing development.
+
+I have a proposal in mind. At Muktware we are always looking for
+exclusive and useful content for home/business users. At the same
+time, we also want to contribute to the Mageia community. How about we
+start an exclusive/dedicated section for Mageia, written by Mageia
+contributors?
+
+1. Mageia contributors can use Muktware as a platform to exclusively
+talk about features of Mageia or the packages they are working on.
+2. A Howto/Tips &amp; Tricks section contributed by Mageia contributors
+about how users can use Mageia or GNU/Linux to do things easily.
+
+There can be several such opportunities for the Mageia community to
+interact with its potential users. The target audience will be
+'home/business' users. It will also help spread the word about Mageia
+and Linux in general.
+
+In return, we will contribute $10 per article to Mageia. This is just
+an initial proposal, what do you think? If you like the idea we can
+work on further details.
+
+Best Wishes
+Swapnil Bhartiya
+Editor-in-chief
+Muktware.com
+Cult of Ubuntu.com
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+<PRE>On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 22:14, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> To make things a bit more visual, you can see there are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> empty/available chairs for marketing and communication teams
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> representatives here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org:council">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org:council</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Damn, nothing *but* empty chairs, ain't it? 8-/
+</I>
+Well, the page is really fresh from this evening and I am touring the
+teams to gather info: all teams are not formally organized besides
+leaders or contacts (representatives are not yet elected). So yes, to
+this point, it looks a bit empty.
+
+That's a good reminder/visualization that this project will move on
+with the participation of all volunteers in each teams.
+
+&gt;<i> Are we making marketing/comms one team (makes sense if we are)?
+</I>
+Well, if mar/comm have only a single representative, the Council will
+be majored by technical teams, so it's important that other teams grow
+as well so there is a balance. So there are two seats: for
+communication and marketing. Of course, having at least one common
+representative (holding two hats, if ever) is better than nothing.
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+Apologies for top-post!
+
+Muktware.com's ask for writers is 750 words; they deal mainly with
+Ubuntu, Android, smartphones and suchlike. Also, they want exclusive
+content - $10 isn't a lot of money for exclusive!
+
+I'm not sure that they're the greatest fit for the people we want to
+reach just at the moment - maybe when we get to the Release
+Candidate? They're for users rather than developers, and right now
+we want developers and testers. Maybe we can write back saying
+thanks! We'll keep this in mind for when we've got something that
+will interest your readers - ?
+
+press@ needs to go to {some people|a person} in Comms team -
+marketing can happily write stuff up, but Comms should keep track of
+who, where, when.
+
+My 2c!
+
+Cheers,
+
+
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> below a request received on the press@ contact and I believe this is
+</I>&gt;<i> the best place to sort it out (btw, we ought to know how we dispatch
+</I>&gt;<i> this address within communication team as well).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Welcome are your input and handling (how to refine this proposal,
+</I>&gt;<i> what to propose, who to propose this to, should we even do it or
+</I>&gt;<i> not)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
+</I>&gt;<i> From: Swapnil Bhartiya &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">editor at muktware.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 20:43
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: Media Query: Interview Request With Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Romain,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just learnt about the Mageia Planet launch, congratulations. It's
+</I>&gt;<i> good news for users and especially for Muktware, as we have been
+</I>&gt;<i> keeping a close eye on the development of Mageia ever since the fork
+</I>&gt;<i> was announced. The Mageia Planet will be a very good resource for
+</I>&gt;<i> staying updated with ongoing development.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a proposal in mind. At Muktware we are always looking for
+</I>&gt;<i> exclusive and useful content for home/business users. At the same
+</I>&gt;<i> time, we also want to contribute to the Mageia community. How about
+</I>&gt;<i> we start an exclusive/dedicated section for Mageia, written by
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia contributors?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Mageia contributors can use Muktware as a platform to exclusively
+</I>&gt;<i> talk about features of Mageia or the packages they are working on.
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. A Howto/Tips &amp; Tricks section contributed by Mageia contributors
+</I>&gt;<i> about how users can use Mageia or GNU/Linux to do things easily.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There can be several such opportunities for the Mageia community to
+</I>&gt;<i> interact with its potential users. The target audience will be
+</I>&gt;<i> 'home/business' users. It will also help spread the word about
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia and Linux in general.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In return, we will contribute $10 per article to Mageia. This is
+</I>&gt;<i> just an initial proposal, what do you think? If you like the idea
+</I>&gt;<i> we can work on further details.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best Wishes
+</I>&gt;<i> Swapnil Bhartiya
+</I>&gt;<i> Editor-in-chief
+</I>&gt;<i> Muktware.com
+</I>&gt;<i> Cult of Ubuntu.com
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
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+
+Looking here:
+
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/calendar/">http://mageia.org/en/calendar/</A>
+
+and at the Google Calendar, our meeting times aren't there - how do
+we get them added?
+
+Cheers,
+
+
+--
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+<PRE>On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 14:02, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Looking here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/calendar/">http://mageia.org/en/calendar/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and at the Google Calendar, our meeting times aren't there - how do
+</I>&gt;<i> we get them added?
+</I>
+I can do it - and I can add the team lead/representative to edit the
+calendar :-p
+
+For our meeting, I'm just unsure Thursday 15:00 is the right time;
+shall I put it as such anyway and we will see later?
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 14:02, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Looking here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/calendar/">http://mageia.org/en/calendar/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and at the Google Calendar, our meeting times aren't there - how do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we get them added?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can do it - and I can add the team lead/representative to edit the
+</I>&gt;<i> calendar :-p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For our meeting, I'm just unsure Thursday 15:00 is the right time;
+</I>&gt;<i> shall I put it as such anyway and we will see later?
+</I>
+Ok for me
+
+BTW: Pls see my mail to webteam@ about discrepancy between display of
+the schedules in the Mageia calendar page and the Google calendar
+itself.
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW: Pls see my mail to webteam@ about discrepancy between display of
+</I>&gt;<i> the schedules in the Mageia calendar page and the Google calendar
+</I>&gt;<i> itself.
+</I>
+Ignore this, my fault. I entered the event in my calendar, not in
+Mageia meeting calendar. :(
+
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+&gt;<i> 2011/3/8 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 14:02, Patricia Fraser
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Looking here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/calendar/">http://mageia.org/en/calendar/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; and at the Google Calendar, our meeting times aren't there - how
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; do we get them added?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I can do it - and I can add the team lead/representative to edit
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the calendar :-p
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For our meeting, I'm just unsure Thursday 15:00 is the right time;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; shall I put it as such anyway and we will see later?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok for me
+</I>
+And for me.
+
+
+&gt;<i> BTW: Pls see my mail to webteam@ about discrepancy between display
+</I>&gt;<i> of the schedules in the Mageia calendar page and the Google calendar
+</I>&gt;<i> itself.
+</I>
+That's what made me look at it... thanks Wobo!
+
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+On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 09:02, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I'm not sure that they're the greatest fit for the people we want to
+</I>&gt;<i> reach just at the moment - maybe when we get to the Release
+</I>&gt;<i> Candidate? They're for users rather than developers, and right now
+</I>&gt;<i> we want developers and testers. Maybe we can write back saying
+</I>&gt;<i> thanks! We'll keep this in mind for when we've got something that
+</I>&gt;<i> will interest your readers - ?
+</I>
+That's an option, yes.
+
+&gt;<i> press@ needs to go to {some people|a person} in Comms team -
+</I>&gt;<i> marketing can happily write stuff up, but Comms should keep track of
+</I>&gt;<i> who, where, when.
+</I>
+Yep. Point is to know who. :-p
+
+Other views? or shall we answer this?
+
+Romain
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+
+a quick call for brainstorm/help.
+
+Mageia installer has information screens available, while the
+installation process goes on. It used to be ads or information.
+Examples:
+ * current state: <A HREF="http://meequz.livejournal.com/118035.html">http://meequz.livejournal.com/118035.html</A> for instance
+ * new mockup sample: <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5424891049/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5424891049/</A>
+ * other mockup for info screen:
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5492025897/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5492025897/</A>
+
+We can use it to promote Mageia, the community, the contribution
+process, the project goals, etc.
+
+Who wants to lead the effort to design the contents of these screens?
+We would need about 4/5 screens in total, short text, easy to
+translate.
+
+Deadline:
+ - today, afternoon, for a single one screen copy (text).
+ - beta1 for the full screens
+
+The process involves:
+ - copywriting/testing
+ - coordination with artwork (alexn83 at this time) for
+designing/producing the screens.
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+
+I can take a stab at it now, if it isn't too late...
+
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> a quick call for brainstorm/help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia installer has information screens available, while the
+</I>&gt;<i> installation process goes on. It used to be ads or information.
+</I>&gt;<i> Examples:
+</I>&gt;<i> * current state: <A HREF="http://meequz.livejournal.com/118035.html">http://meequz.livejournal.com/118035.html</A> for
+</I>&gt;<i> instance
+</I>&gt;<i> * new mockup sample:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5424891049/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5424891049/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> * other mockup for info screen:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5492025897/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5492025897/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We can use it to promote Mageia, the community, the contribution
+</I>&gt;<i> process, the project goals, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Who wants to lead the effort to design the contents of these
+</I>&gt;<i> screens? We would need about 4/5 screens in total, short text, easy
+</I>&gt;<i> to translate.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Deadline:
+</I>&gt;<i> - today, afternoon, for a single one screen copy (text).
+</I>&gt;<i> - beta1 for the full screens
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The process involves:
+</I>&gt;<i> - copywriting/testing
+</I>&gt;<i> - coordination with artwork (alexn83 at this time) for
+</I>&gt;<i> designing/producing the screens.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 18:57, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Romain,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can take a stab at it now, if it isn't too late...
+</I>
+Sure, please do. :)
+
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+<PRE>Hi folks,
+
+We need a fast sanity check on the texts below so we can push a final
+version through to Alex for the Alpha 2 artwork *tonight* - please
+come back ASAP!
+
+Installer screen text will go in the part of the installer screen
+that changes while packages are installing. We need to have text for
+at least 1, possibly up to 6. I've got 6, but they mightn't all be
+used.
+
+We're talking to potential team members - all teams. Here goes:
+
+----
+
+1.
+
+Welcome to Mageia - want to join us? www.mageia.org
+
+2.
+
+Be part of Mageia - help us make what we're using. www.mageia.org
+
+3.
+
+Join the Mageia community - be a user *and* a maker. www.mageia.org.
+
+4.
+
+We like your interest! Come and join the Mageia team! www.mageia.org
+
+5.
+
+Where to find us? www.mageia.org - be part of the Mageia community.
+
+6.
+
+Mageia. The magic of people. Be part of it! www.mageia.org
+
+-----
+
+Comments and edits welcome!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE>Hi back!
+
+On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 19:37, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> We need a fast sanity check on the texts below so we can push a final
+</I>&gt;<i> version through to Alex for the Alpha 2 artwork *tonight* - please
+</I>&gt;<i> come back ASAP!
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>
+Patricia and me did a little brainstorm and came up with this:
+
+ * screen 1 : &quot;Thank you for testing Mageia Alpha 2&quot; (s/testing/using/
+for finale)
+ * screen 2 : &quot;Please give us your impressions - we need your input to
+improve on this distribution&quot;
+ * screen 3 : &quot;We are a great, international community and we will
+welcome you when you join us!&quot;
+
+Just for your info. I'll post this to Alexander now, if he has time to
+produce this into something for alpha2. And we would use that as a
+first work document for beta1.
+
+Thank you Patricia!
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+
+&gt;<i> Hi back!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 19:37, Patricia Fraser
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We need a fast sanity check on the texts below so we can push a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; final version through to Alex for the Alpha 2 artwork *tonight* -
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; please come back ASAP!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Patricia and me did a little brainstorm and came up with this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * screen 1 : &quot;Thank you for testing Mageia Alpha
+</I>&gt;<i> 2&quot; (s/testing/using/ for finale)
+</I>&gt;<i> * screen 2 : &quot;Please give us your impressions - we need your input
+</I>&gt;<i> to improve on this distribution&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> * screen 3 : &quot;We are a great, international community and we will
+</I>&gt;<i> welcome you when you join us!&quot;
+</I>
+8-) Even better than we brainstormed.
+
+&gt;<i> Just for your info. I'll post this to Alexander now, if he has time
+</I>&gt;<i> to produce this into something for alpha2. And we would use that as
+</I>&gt;<i> a first work document for beta1.
+</I>
+Great.
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
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+
+alpha2 is out, our logo is set, let's push the bar further now.
+
+Here's a global direction document to help:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web:website">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web:website</A>
+
+This needs your input from each team (market/comm, web, artwork) and
+feel free to point others to it as well to gather feedback.
+
+Feel free to comment, add, update, but keeping it focused on not too
+specific details. The goal is to write down guidelines for the
+following milestones:
+ * general style of the website
+ * global navigation (role, contents, behaviour, design,
+implementation) to be rolled out on all mageia.org as much as possible
+ * main mageia.org theme
+ * particular pages design and implementation (order/priority to
+discuss later; however I expect us to have these ready for beta1 -
+April, 5th: global nav, basic global theme &amp; downloads page).
+
+Thank you a lot for your feedback or even mockups on either list (I'll
+try to summarize) or on the page. We will start actively working on
+this in week 12 (one week after alpha2 release).
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hey there,
+
+here comes another serious part: listing and naming the different
+instances of our product, for finale release (and we ought to have
+everything square for beta2 or RC release if possible).
+
+Here are notes summarizing what we currently have available for
+delivery, given our history. There are missing use cases, perhaps
+(being more specialized). Maybe missing media as well.
+
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:product_naming">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:product_naming</A>
+
+Goal of this topic is double:
+ * study/propose/find a name for the product as such (Mageia? Mageia
+something? something?)
+ * refine/study/propose/find use cases to confirm existing delivered
+products or suggest new ones (new ones may not necessarily be
+available for Mageia 1, but will likely be tested just after for the
+next run).
+
+
+Advice, proposals, mockups welcome.
+
+Thanks!
+
+Romain
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+Hi Romain,
+
+I'm glad you brought this on up. I've been dreading it. For the most
+part, much of this topic has already been decided, but FWIW, I will
+comment anyway, as this is a great concern to me, and as far as I'm
+concerned, the most important aspect of whether Mageia will ultimately
+succeed as a major distro to be taken seriously.
+
+Just to point out, I haven't had any use whatsoever for Mandriva, having
+only installed it just a few times over the years, so I could be sure as
+to why I recommended EVERYONE to NOT use it.
+
+Conversely, I was a MAJOR proponent and advocate for Linux Mandrake, and
+my company was responsible for somewhere in the neighborhood of 25,000
+desktop installs at various Fortune 500's and others in the United
+States, including Merril Lynch, ARCO, AIG, and a bunch of others.
+
+Then came that damn IPO...
+
+I think we all know what happened after that. But until then, as far as
+I was concerned (Having completely abandoned the Redhat camp after RH
+5.2), it was the ONLY RPM based distro I championed for the desktop.
+
+We erradicated an awful lot of wYNdOZe in the enterprise with Mandrake.
+
+As far as servers, however, I am not a proponent of RPM based distros -
+nor will I be. I'm just not your man if you want someone to tout the
+benefits of Mageia in the datacenter or back office. It ain't gonna
+happen in any of my shops.
+
+Yes, I'm quite prejudiced, yet this is not to say that I don't think
+Mageia or Mandrake would work well as a server. It does evidence my
+preferences for (IMNSHO) more suitable distros to serve that purpose.
+
+And for that purpose, I'm kind of a
+Slackware/debian/Sorcerer/Arch/Linboard kinda guy (Yes, I've been
+installing and running Linboard Linux in the enterprise and datacenters
+since I created it in 1992, and in 1993 it became available on the
+shelves of many prominent stores via the retail distribution channels).
+
+Occasionally, yet very rarely, I will actually settle on CentOS, but
+that is mostly for datacenter installs for hosting companies, as has,
+for the most part, only to do with the nice integration between
+WHM/cPanel for their customers.
+
+Other than that, I have virtually no use for an RPM based distro for
+anything other than the desktop (with the possible exception of SuSE).
+
+I'm hoping that Mageia will fill that gap that has been, IMO, missing
+from the desktop distro offerings since Mandrake met its demise and
+became Mandriva.
+
+This is not to say that I think Mageia is not a good product for the
+back office or datacenter - I've just been through RPM hell too many
+times over the last 15 years and don't see it as a sustainable model -
+and from my perspective, it has never proven to be suitable for that
+kind of that environment as far as I'm concerned (SuSE included).
+
+Remember, I come from a Sys III / BSD background. I was raised to
+believe that a server should be capable of being maintained for ten or
+more years, which is exactly what I have when I run Slackware, debian,
+xBSD, or Solaris.
+
+Therefore, my perspective might be quite different (and undoubtedly is)
+from others here on the Mageia team.
+
+But before I briefly address your subject below, let's look at the other
+side of the coin before people get the wrong idea about what I expect
+from Mageia and where I think (Hope) it is going to shine.
+
+First, I'm hoping that Mageia will make for the wonderful, award winning
+desktop distro that Mandrake was (as I've already indicated).
+
+Second, Slackware and Debian, although my first choices usually for
+enterprise servers, are really not paricularly well suited for desktop
+deployment for the average joe (Well, debian can be). For example, I'm
+writing this email on a pure Slackware64 -current laptop - Something
+that I definately would almost NEVER recommend to anyone but a seasoned
+sysadmin.
+
+Third, and I might get flamed for this, but Ubuntu just sux green
+weenies. I'd rather give someone a Knoppix LiveCD than see them run that
+bastard distro. Again, I admit I'm quite prejudiced when it comes to
+choosing distros for a particular application.
+
+Okay so what do we have now? Several reasons why I just don't see any
+use for an RPM based distro (with rare exceptions for SuSE and CentOS)as
+an enterprise server, and several reasons why I feel my favorite server
+platforms are not suitable for massive desktop deployment in the enterprise.
+
+One thing that disgusts me (Aside from RHEL), are the enterprise
+offerings from Mandriva. You can download some &quot;Enterprise&quot; versions of
+the distro, and not pay for support (WTF does support mean anyway?), but
+you aren't, according to the website entitled to updates - that is just
+INSANE!!!
+
+And then, there other, in my opinion, utterly useless versions of the
+distro that are lacking in some way, because of the inference that they
+are somehow mission specific, crippled, or otherwise lacking in
+capability (even though they're really not).
+
+So, to address your topic of addressing the, &quot;...listing and naming of
+the different instances of our product,...&quot;, I offer the following, as a
+roster of what *I* would like to see :)
+
+1.) Of course, a full featured, Mageia LiveCD (I don't personally have
+much use for these, but recognize and recommend that such an entity
+exists for many reasons, too numerous to list here.
+
+Things like LibreOffice, and other *end user* software should be
+included in this packed image.
+
+2.) For lack of a better term, a *utility* or *minimal* LiveCD. I know
+that leaves a lot of wiggle room for people to figure out what should be
+included in such a spin.
+
+A plethora of *utilities* should be included, including things like
+Wireshark (Ethereal), EtherApe, Filezilla, CLI and forensic tools, but
+not going overboard with that because distros like Backtrack 3/4 already
+have narrow focus on that front.
+
+3.) A Mageia Minimal offering - Like debian's Netinst - a minimal spin
+that you can use to quickly get an OS deployed and finish/customize over
+the wire and/or via scripts - such a spin makes large scale enterprise
+desktop delployments not only possible, but friendly to the VARs and
+Integrators who will be rolling out the Mageia desktop en masse in the
+enterprise.
+
+4.) A Mageia Full: this should be the shining gemstone of planet Mageia.
+a complete set of userland applications, office and productivity suites,
+games, whatever will make people go, &quot;Man that Mageia is really kewl and
+full featured right out of the box!&quot;.
+
+Lot's of bells and whistles for the home user and corporate desktop
+alike, something that will give that Ubuntu crap a run for its money
+from a team that is organized similarly to that of the debian project
+(as we are), instead of some corporate sponsored, special interest
+driven, distro - like Ubuntu, Redhat, and Mandriva are (Yeah,
+unfortunately, SuSE falls into this category too, although there is
+OpenSuSE too).
+
+Finally, and no *handy* distro would be complete without it, a USB stick
+version of Mageia, pretty much the same thing as Mageia Minimal, or
+Mageia LiveCD, but something that IT persons and Internet Cafe patrons
+alike, can carry on their keychains and boot from quickly, to surf or
+access Cloud resources.
+
+In my opinion, Whether any kind of Enterprise support packages are
+offered or not for Mageia, there shouldn't be ANY DISTINCTION WHATSOEVER
+between one of the above spins of Mageia and support subscription ready
+versions - IOW: Specific *Enterprise* or otherwise specialty spins of
+Mageia *Should NOT exist* - the distro should be able to stand upon its
+own in the community and be equally appropriate for those who want to
+self-administer with community support or paid subscription support.
+
+I'll retell this one story briefly here again:
+
+One day, a member of the development team in the medical industry
+company where I worked came to me and asked if he could have resources
+on a production server for one of our upcoming products that I had
+previously provided him a custom staging server for (Watch out for Java
+programmers, they want ALL of your memory LOL).
+
+Since we were moving, wrt this particular suite of apps, from beta to
+limited production for final elbow checking before general release and
+shrink wrap, I told him I could give him space and resources for his
+apps to run on one of our older, less used forward facing servers.
+
+Well this particular server was an RHEL box, and the software didn't run
+because of certain aspects of his suite, to make a long story short,
+that needed some specific support in the Linux Kernel.
+
+So I pushed him back three or four days and said I would compile him a
+kernel on that box that would meet his needs and then no prob.... Until
+one of the VPs came to me and asked if this was okay to do.
+
+&quot;But of course it is&quot;, was my general response. I mean, what could be
+more natural than compiling a custom kernel?
+
+But the VP urged me to contact RH and ask them if is was *OKAY* to
+compile and install a custom kernel on a box with an RH Enterprise
+support subscription.
+
+I grudgingly obliged his suggestion, and was subsequently informed by
+Redhat that we could NOT run this software (meaning, I couldn't install
+my own kernel).
+
+I had never heard of such a thing (um... Well, back in the mainframe
+days, sure).
+
+Basically, I was informed by the Friendly Redhat support person that in
+order to run a custom kernel, that I had to provide Redhat with the
+particular specifications and THEY would compile the kernel for me.
+
+The argument has been made on several sysadmin lists that since you are
+paying Redhat to hold your hand and do everything for you, that you
+should just let them do it.
+
+Okay, but then why do I need to be drawing a salary if Redhat can, and
+will, do everything that I was contracted to do?
+
+I thanked the nice gentleman at Redhat and went about my day. in the
+late afternoon, when the second shift of my admins started to arrive, I
+gathered everyone up in a conference room and told them that on Friday,
+they would all need to bring sleeping bags, a bunch of sandwiches,
+bottled drinks, and a couple changes of clothes - and be prepared to
+live on premise for the entire weekend.
+
+Come 06:30hrs Monday morning, there wasn't a single living Redhat
+machine left in the entire enterprise, and the developer had his
+production machine ready to launch his RC1.
+
+The moral of the story is like this - If we create a distro that has a
+*spin* which requires an enterprise support contract like Redhat or
+Oracle (basically the same distro, but Oracle's enterprise support
+package is cheaper), then we will alienate massive amounts of
+administrators, and since Redhat already has this particular market
+cornered for the idiot pencil pushers who for some stupid reason make
+such support a requirement for the adoption of a vendors product, Mageia
+will fail miserably - and I will abandon it as well.
+
+On the other hand, if we simply provide enterprise support as a value
+added option for some, or any of our distro's various spins, then I'm
+all for it - even if such a model isn't in the works.
+
+Preferably, I would like to see a Mageia certification program, and
+links to vendors that provide enterprise support for Mageia
+installations, but regardless, the Redhat model is a big loser for
+Mageia if it is adopted.
+
+Another way to derive income for the project would be to bundle third
+party, *non-free* software suites with optional or mandatory
+licensing/support packages. I won't personally use any software like
+that, but I have nothing against it and the publishers of such software
+will pay the Mageia project handsomely for such exclusivity, access to
+their wares, and the advertising space on our websites.
+
+Okay moving along now :)
+
+As for the actual *Naming* for our products... Well that's really not
+important to me, as long as the average joe is able to make a
+distinction between what the various product spins of our distro above
+are, and which one is right for them.
+
+I'm really hoping that we end up with a product that I can confidently,
+and proudly recommend on the enterprise desktop which I have no
+hesitation to use, in the campaign to erradicate wINdOZe.
+
+To summarize the most important points of what I expect to see emerge
+from our product line:
+
+1.) No particular spin of our distribution should be crippled (like some
+Mandriva spins are), yielding an installation that is either full
+featured from the start, or with regards to a minimal netinst spin of
+our product, completely capable of seamlessly becoming the full featured
+version with a couple (okay maybe six or seven) clicks of the mouse.
+
+2.) If there is to be an enterprise support offering, it is something to
+augment the user's installations of Mageia, irrespective of the
+particular spin they chose to install, and without the requirement that
+any *special* version of Mageia need be created for such purpose.
+
+3.) We should have a LiveCD and USB stick version which fits on a single
+CD, and on a USB flash drive of less than or equal to 1GByte. Those
+versions should also have an exceedingly easy and DIRECT migration path
+to install the *live* system onto the hard drive, yielding a complete
+Mageia installation that conforms to item #1 above.
+
+4.) We should have all of the above offerings in a strictly 32bit
+version of Mageia, for backward compatibilty support for older, or
+crippled hardware, while our flagship products should be 64bit multi-lib
+enabled.
+
+This last point might need some clarification. While I am, essentially a
+Slackware stalwart, and have been for over 15 years, we slackers
+typically believe that one should have a pure 32bit version of a distro,
+and a pure 64bit version that is multi-libe ready, but not enabled. I do
+not advocate such a thing for Mageia - I believe that all 64 versions of
+our product also be 32bit enabled - we're talking about two different
+beasts here, and if our 64bit versions won't run 32bit apps out of the
+box - we are doomed.
+
+I hope that helps :)
+
+Bradley.
+
+On 03/15/2011 07:58 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hey there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> here comes another serious part: listing and naming the different
+</I>&gt;<i> instances of our product, for finale release (and we ought to have
+</I>&gt;<i> everything square for beta2 or RC release if possible).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here are notes summarizing what we currently have available for
+</I>&gt;<i> delivery, given our history. There are missing use cases, perhaps
+</I>&gt;<i> (being more specialized). Maybe missing media as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:product_naming">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:product_naming</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Goal of this topic is double:
+</I>&gt;<i> * study/propose/find a name for the product as such (Mageia? Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> something? something?)
+</I>&gt;<i> * refine/study/propose/find use cases to confirm existing delivered
+</I>&gt;<i> products or suggest new ones (new ones may not necessarily be
+</I>&gt;<i> available for Mageia 1, but will likely be tested just after for the
+</I>&gt;<i> next run).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Advice, proposals, mockups welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
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+
+and thank you for taking the time for such a long answer. Summarizing it, I see:
+
+ * LiveCD (end users)
+ * minimal utility LiveCD (advanced technical/sysadmin user)
+ * netinstall (anyone)
+ * full DVD (anyone)
+ * USB version (anyone)
+ * 64b version should run 32b apps/libs
+ * not crippling any release (see comments below)
+
+that somehow recoups the list on the previous page. So the matter is
+still more in the names and use cases.
+
+On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 21:27, Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> For the most part, much of this topic has already been decided,
+</I>
+It happens that we have a list of formats we'd like to release, and
+that's what is listed on the page, but the discussion is open anyway.
+The goal is really to have a table with two columns: what will be done
+for Mageia 1, what will be aimed for Mageia 2.
+
+&gt;<i> As far as servers, however, I am not a proponent of RPM based distros -
+</I>&gt;<i> nor will I be. I'm just not your man if you want someone to tout the
+</I>&gt;<i> benefits of Mageia in the datacenter or back office.
+</I>
+Ok. But (apart from the &quot;why?&quot;) that doesn't mean it doesn't qualify
+at all. There are servers and servers. And there are things beyond
+desktop and server.
+
+&gt;<i> there shouldn't be ANY DISTINCTION WHATSOEVER between one
+</I>&gt;<i> of the above spins of Mageia and support subscription ready versions
+</I>&gt;<i> [...] the distro should be able to stand upon its own in the community
+</I>&gt;<i> and be equally appropriate for those who want to self-administer with
+</I>&gt;<i> community support or paid subscription support.
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> On the other hand, if we simply provide enterprise support as a value
+</I>&gt;<i> added option for some, or any of our distro's various spins, then I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> all for it - even if such a model isn't in the works.
+</I>
+There's no reason why we would provide a crippled version of anything
+- unless you start to consider the software patents issue, but even
+there, that's a kind of restriction that is taken into account at the
+whole project level (through the media policy).
+
+Mageia.Org is not going to conduct commercial activities. And any
+business may come around and provide professional support or any
+derivative/spin of Mageia main line, or added-value package. Those are
+even encouraged and would be referenced as support/extension providers
+to the main product.
+
+&gt;<i> I'm really hoping that we end up with a product that I can confidently,
+</I>&gt;<i> and proudly recommend on the enterprise desktop which I have no
+</I>&gt;<i> hesitation to use, in the campaign to erradicate wINdOZe.
+</I>
+For the next 5 years (10 at most), however, the enterprise desktop is
+as waning a target as the personal desktop, at least in its current
+form. At best, it will stay as a development or static platform.
+Common usage of computers is becoming more and more transparent
+through many other devices and use cases. We ought to explore these
+more and more (but that's out of scope for Mageia 1).
+
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+
+I'm conflating answers to package naming and website stuff together,
+because I think the two have some cross-over.
+
+One of the reasons a person new to Mageia will visit the site is to
+find out about Mageia and its various flavours/iterations, and
+whether they fit the visitor's use case, or appeal to their wish to
+join a project. So, whatever we call the &quot;products&quot; &lt;shudder&gt;, we
+need to communicate about them really, really effectively.
+
+&gt;<i> Goal of this topic is double:
+</I>&gt;<i> * study/propose/find a name for the product as such (Mageia? Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> something? something?)
+</I>
+Skirting around this for the moment, except to say that I favour the
+style Mageia {flavour} {n}; can our names follow the Mageia-Cauldron
+lineage maybe? Alchemy for the one where you have to roll your own
+kernel... 8-) I'm afraid I don't find the explication on the wiki
+very helpful - are we going to have flavours, for different use
+cases, or just what is it we're naming?
+
+&gt;<i> * refine/study/propose/find use cases to confirm existing delivered
+</I>&gt;<i> products or suggest new ones (new ones may not necessarily be
+</I>&gt;<i> available for Mageia 1, but will likely be tested just after for the
+</I>&gt;<i> next run).
+</I>
+Skirting around his one too, *but*:
+
+Whatever &quot;products&quot; we have on our list (I hate that word. Can we
+find another, less commercial generic term for the various flavours
+of Mageia?), something *nobody* does well and we could is:
+
+- Have a full specifications page on the site for each flavour,
+ linked from the main list;
+ - for instance, *why* use the &quot;gamers&quot; or &quot;multimedia&quot; or
+ &quot;VI Accessible&quot; flavour? What is better about it? What are
+ the gotchas? What packages do you get on the ISO? What
+ kernel is in it and what's installed if you just take the
+ default? What services will run with the default install?
+ What have we changed in packages from the upstream settings?
+ etc. etc. etc.
+ - most of this info should be available from the packagers -
+ can we ask them to give the comms team a heads-up in some
+ way when they add/change things, so information on flavour
+ pages can be updated?
+- have a progression from less to more technical/detailed info - links
+ to package info, for instance, especially the Drak packages and
+ their derivatives and other Mageia/Mandriva specialist packages -
+ I've had msec installed for umpty years and I still haven't ever
+ found decent documentation!
+- Include release dates of each Flavour, and links to older versions;
+ link to the info from the roadmap; make it possible to land on
+ Flavour info from lots of places including the front page, with
+ that link right up at the top of the page.
+- Link to Forum/ML discussions about particular flavours (if we have
+ fora/mls dedicated - which we hope we'll get nice and large so we
+ will 8-)).
+
+This would add a chunk of data to the website as its currently
+envisioned, but it would add a *lot* to the user experience.
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
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+<PRE>Hi Patricia,
+
+and thanks a lot for your insights.
+
+On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 20:19, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I'm conflating answers to package naming and website stuff together,
+</I>&gt;<i> because I think the two have some cross-over.
+</I>
+To some extent. But the product ought to live without this website,
+and the website is not only about the final (but about the process to
+get there, and go beyond). At some point, we may even consider to have
+a dedicated website for the product, but we're not there yet.
+
+&gt;<i> One of the reasons a person new to Mageia will visit the site is to
+</I>&gt;<i> find out about Mageia and its various flavours/iterations, and
+</I>&gt;<i> whether they fit the visitor's use case, or appeal to their wish to
+</I>&gt;<i> join a project. So, whatever we call the &quot;products&quot; &lt;shudder&gt;, we
+</I>&gt;<i> need to communicate about them really, really effectively.
+</I>
+Totally, yes.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Goal of this topic is double:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* study/propose/find a name for the product as such (Mageia? Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something? something?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Skirting around this for the moment, except to say that I favour the
+</I>&gt;<i> style Mageia {flavour} {n}; can our names follow the Mageia-Cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> lineage maybe? Alchemy for the one where you have to roll your own
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel... 8-) I'm afraid I don't find the explication on the wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> very helpful - are we going to have flavours, for different use
+</I>&gt;<i> cases, or just what is it we're naming?
+</I>
+I may not have been very specific on what is meant by a &quot;use case&quot;
+here. It's not about targetting a gamers group, or a developr group,
+or a hitchhikers group, etc. It's more about how experienced one is
+(not at all, or to some extent) and how the linux distribution is made
+available for testing/installation: install DVD, live/install CD or
+USB key, netboot install, etc.
+
+This, because at this point at least, the only kind of &quot;flavour&quot; we
+would have is this: how to download and use the very same product
+(that is, the same tree of packages, available either through a
+physical medium, either through the network).
+
+Well, that's true for the ISO meant to use live or install the system.
+It's a little bit different for the pluggable storage (USB key for
+now) that provides a different experience: you can use it live,
+install it _and_ have a persistent storage for your data.
+
+So my naming question, to frame it better (and feel free to indicate
+me how/where to make this more clear on the web page) is more about:
+ * how do we name those different access/install experiences? the same
+(Mageia) + a casual description (DVD, LiveCD, netinstall, minimal,
+mobile)? (I favour this, but) or more inspirational names?
+ * and how do we frame them to the new visitor that wants to &quot;download
+Mageia&quot; ?
+
+&gt;<i> Whatever &quot;products&quot; we have on our list (I hate that word. Can we
+</I>&gt;<i> find another, less commercial generic term for the various flavours
+</I>&gt;<i> of Mageia?),
+</I>
+We could, but &quot;product&quot; is the result of some &quot;production&quot;. Nothing
+commercial in this. &quot;artefact&quot; wouldn't qualify I guess. No particular
+idea here.
+
+&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;- most of this info should be available from the packagers -
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;can we ask them to give the comms team a heads-up in some
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;way when they add/change things, so information on flavour
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;pages can be updated?
+</I>
+That would rely on checking each package changelog and getting in
+touch with the packagers. I don't know how to put some incentive (or
+how to integrate these changelogs) as to make this more easily
+informative. I believe mageia-app-db work done by Stormi can help a
+lot here.
+
+&gt;<i> - have a progression from less to more technical/detailed info - links
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;to package info, for instance, especially the Drak packages and
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;their derivatives and other Mageia/Mandriva specialist packages -
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;I've had msec installed for umpty years and I still haven't ever
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;found decent documentation!
+</I>
+Yes! To find the right balance, and delivering it as a useful, clear,
+to the point doc, still attractive and welcoming. We can do it. We can
+do it. There's a lot to learn from Rails and similar modern web dev
+tools online documentation that is far ahead.
+
+
+Romain
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+From: Patricia Fraser
+Date: Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 22:46
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+To: Romain d'Alverny
+
+Hi Romain,
+
+&gt;<i> and thanks a lot for your insights.
+</I>
+You're welcome!
+
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 20:19, Patricia Fraser
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm conflating answers to package naming and website stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; together, because I think the two have some cross-over.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To some extent. But the product ought to live without this website,
+</I>&gt;<i> and the website is not only about the final (but about the process
+</I>&gt;<i> to get there, and go beyond). At some point, we may even consider
+</I>&gt;<i> to have a dedicated website for the product, but we're not there
+</I>&gt;<i> yet.
+</I>
+The point I didn't communicate very well was: if we have the
+distribution, and we want people to use it, we absolutely need to have
+the information about it out there, easily accessible and readily
+found, and the best place for that is on the Mageia website - so I
+think the product really won't live without the website.
+
+We maybe don't need the website right this minute, but we need all
+the time between now and release day for Mageia 1, to put things in
+place - so it makes sense to talk about it now and plan for it.
+
+&gt;<i> I may not have been very specific on what is meant by a &quot;use case&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> here. It's not about targetting a gamers group, or a developr group,
+</I>&gt;<i> or a hitchhikers group, etc. It's more about how experienced one is
+</I>&gt;<i> (not at all, or to some extent) and how the linux distribution is
+</I>&gt;<i> made available for testing/installation: install DVD, live/install
+</I>&gt;<i> CD or USB key, netboot install, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This, because at this point at least, the only kind of &quot;flavour&quot; we
+</I>&gt;<i> would have is this: how to download and use the very same product
+</I>&gt;<i> (that is, the same tree of packages, available either through a
+</I>&gt;<i> physical medium, either through the network).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, that's true for the ISO meant to use live or install the
+</I>&gt;<i> system. It's a little bit different for the pluggable storage (USB
+</I>&gt;<i> key for now) that provides a different experience: you can use it
+</I>&gt;<i> live, install it _and_ have a persistent storage for your data.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So my naming question, to frame it better (and feel free to indicate
+</I>&gt;<i> me how/where to make this more clear on the web page) is more about:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;* how do we name those different access/install experiences? the
+</I>&gt;<i> same (Mageia) + a casual description (DVD, LiveCD, netinstall,
+</I>&gt;<i> minimal, mobile)? (I favour this, but) or more inspirational names?
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;* and how do we frame them to the new visitor that wants to
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;download Mageia&quot; ?
+</I>
+Okay - understood. Then, maybe, we name it according to the kind of
+installation rather than something confusing, and we have a way for
+a new user - I'm thinking new-to-Linux as much as new-to-Mageia - to
+discover a) what each of them means *and* b) which of them will suit
+this user at the moment. A &quot;what does each one do&quot; set of information
+and a &quot;which one do I want&quot; set of information.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Whatever &quot;products&quot; we have on our list (I hate that word. Can we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; find another, less commercial generic term for the various
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; flavours of Mageia?),
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We could, but &quot;product&quot; is the result of some &quot;production&quot;. Nothing
+</I>&gt;<i> commercial in this. &quot;artefact&quot; wouldn't qualify I guess. No
+</I>&gt;<i> particular idea here.
+</I>
+&lt;marketing hat on&gt;
+
+The problem with this kind of naming is that it's inward-facing - it
+refers back to the people already in the project. We need an
+outward-facing name, to talk to the people who aren't in the Mageia
+community yet; once they've tried it, we hope they'll join! &quot;Product&quot;
+is an expression that puts a fence between makers and newcomers.
+
+It would be good to name Mageia releases/iterations/flavours in a
+way that says to the newcomer: &quot;this is for you! We hope you like it!&quot;
+and even &quot;if you like it, maybe you'll join us?&quot;
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;- most of this info should be available from the packagers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - can we ask them to give the comms team a heads-up in some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;way when they add/change things, so information on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; flavour pages can be updated?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would rely on checking each package changelog and getting in
+</I>&gt;<i> touch with the packagers. I don't know how to put some incentive (or
+</I>&gt;<i> how to integrate these changelogs) as to make this more easily
+</I>&gt;<i> informative. I believe mageia-app-db work done by Stormi can help a
+</I>&gt;<i> lot here.
+</I>
+How do we get to take a look at what's currently in mageia-app-db?
+I've seen some mention of it on the Devel list, but I haven't read
+it in any detail.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - have a progression from less to more technical/detailed info -
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; links to package info, for instance, especially the Drak packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and their derivatives and other Mageia/Mandriva specialist
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages - I've had msec installed for umpty years and I still
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; haven't ever found decent documentation!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes! To find the right balance, and delivering it as a useful,
+</I>&gt;<i> clear, to the point doc, still attractive and welcoming. We can do
+</I>&gt;<i> it. We can do it. There's a lot to learn from Rails and similar
+</I>&gt;<i> modern web dev tools online documentation that is far ahead.
+</I>
+Documentation is often the poor relation, but it's the place where
+makers talk to users; it's the place where we can be the most
+welcoming - like a gateway into the community. Worth doing.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
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+On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 22:46, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> We maybe don't need the website right this minute, but we need all
+</I>&gt;<i> the time between now and release day for Mageia 1, to put things in
+</I>&gt;<i> place - so it makes sense to talk about it now and plan for it.
+</I>
+Yes of course.
+
+&gt;<i> Okay - understood. Then, maybe, we name it according to the kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> installation rather than something confusing, and we have a way for
+</I>&gt;<i> a new user - I'm thinking new-to-Linux as much as new-to-Mageia - to
+</I>&gt;<i> discover a) what each of them means *and* b) which of them will suit
+</I>&gt;<i> this user at the moment. A &quot;what does each one do&quot; set of information
+</I>&gt;<i> and a &quot;which one do I want&quot; set of information.
+</I>
+Yes. Simple.
+
+So that would make:
+ * Mageia 1 DVD (32 or 64bit)
+ * Mageia 1 dual arch CD
+ * Mageia 1 netinstall CD
+ * Mageia 1 LiveCD (32, 64bit, locale specific)
+ * Mageia 1 Mobile (for an equivalent to Flash)
+
+that we can explain in a download/selection page depending on the
+intended uses, with a set of default download made available in one
+click (typically, that could be the 32bit LiveCD or dualarch CD).
+
+&gt;<i> It would be good to name Mageia releases/iterations/flavours in a
+</I>&gt;<i> way that says to the newcomer: &quot;this is for you! We hope you like it!&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> and even &quot;if you like it, maybe you'll join us?&quot;
+</I>
+Definitely yes. That could be &quot;platform&quot;; although, speaking of
+&quot;Mageia platform&quot; may refer to the project itself, the infrastructure,
+or the end-product-distribution. Hence maybe the need to consider a
+product-focused&quot; name in the future, distinct from &quot;Mageia&quot; (that
+would be the project's name).
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Yes! To find the right balance, and delivering it as a useful,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> clear, to the point doc, still attractive and welcoming. We can do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it. We can do it. There's a lot to learn from Rails and similar
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> modern web dev tools online documentation that is far ahead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Documentation is often the poor relation, but it's the place where
+</I>&gt;<i> makers talk to users; it's the place where we can be the most
+</I>&gt;<i> welcoming - like a gateway into the community. Worth doing.
+</I>
+Totally agree. I would hope that we get to the point of having
+something like <A HREF="http://developer.mozilla.org/">http://developer.mozilla.org/</A> equivalent for the
+developer/technical contributor side and st equivalent for
+users/newcomers.
+
+Romain
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+
+&lt;LOUD REMINDER ABOUT MEETING TOMORROW TO ANYONE READING THIS!!&gt;
+
+Sorry 8-).
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Okay - understood. Then, maybe, we name it according to the kind
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of installation rather than something confusing, and we have a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; way for a new user - I'm thinking new-to-Linux as much as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; new-to-Mageia - to discover a) what each of them means *and* b)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; which of them will suit this user at the moment. A &quot;what does
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; each one do&quot; set of information and a &quot;which one do I want&quot; set
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of information.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes. Simple.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So that would make:
+</I>&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 DVD (32 or 64bit)
+</I>&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 dual arch CD
+</I>&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 netinstall CD
+</I>&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 LiveCD (32, 64bit, locale specific)
+</I>&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 Mobile (for an equivalent to Flash)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> that we can explain in a download/selection page depending on the
+</I>&gt;<i> intended uses, with a set of default download made available in one
+</I>&gt;<i> click (typically, that could be the 32bit LiveCD or dualarch CD).
+</I>
+Sounds great. Now if we can just organise an extra 8 hours in the
+day, I'll start writing some of the docs... 8-)
+
+Is the doc team doing anything yet? Sorry, I don't really look at a
+lot of the activity outside of marcomms/artwork.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; It would be good to name Mageia releases/iterations/flavours in a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; way that says to the newcomer: &quot;this is for you! We hope you like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it!&quot; and even &quot;if you like it, maybe you'll join us?&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Definitely yes. That could be &quot;platform&quot;; although, speaking of
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia platform&quot; may refer to the project itself, the
+</I>&gt;<i> infrastructure, or the end-product-distribution. Hence maybe the
+</I>&gt;<i> need to consider a product-focused&quot; name in the future, distinct
+</I>&gt;<i> from &quot;Mageia&quot; (that would be the project's name).
+</I>
+How about words like: issue, release, volume...? Platform is easy to
+confuse with hardware, and distribution would include everything we
+release, ne?
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Yes! To find the right balance, and delivering it as a useful,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; clear, to the point doc, still attractive and welcoming. We can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; do it. We can do it. There's a lot to learn from Rails and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; similar modern web dev tools online documentation that is far
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ahead.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Documentation is often the poor relation, but it's the place where
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; makers talk to users; it's the place where we can be the most
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; welcoming - like a gateway into the community. Worth doing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Totally agree. I would hope that we get to the point of having
+</I>&gt;<i> something like <A HREF="http://developer.mozilla.org/">http://developer.mozilla.org/</A> equivalent for the
+</I>&gt;<i> developer/technical contributor side and st equivalent for
+</I>&gt;<i> users/newcomers.
+</I>
+Yep - and maybe a portal-ish front page that lets people find their
+way to the appropriate spot, which can change as time goes by!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - most of this info should be available from the packagers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - can we ask them to give the comms team a heads-up in some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; way when they add/change things, so information on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; flavour pages can be updated?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That would rely on checking each package changelog and getting in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; touch with the packagers. I don't know how to put some incentive (or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; how to integrate these changelogs) as to make this more easily
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; informative. I believe mageia-app-db work done by Stormi can help a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lot here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How do we get to take a look at what's currently in mageia-app-db?
+</I>&gt;<i> I've seen some mention of it on the Devel list, but I haven't read
+</I>&gt;<i> it in any detail.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+You can see a test instance at <A HREF="http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/">http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/</A>
+
+It won't feature mail or RSS notifications before the end of april, but it can
+already be used to browse the list of available packages. The &quot;updates&quot; page
+shows package updates ordered by descending buildtime.
+
+By default, a filter is set to show only applications. If you want
+to see all packages, check both &quot;yes&quot; and &quot;no&quot; in the applications filter
+
+Can it be useful for your team ?
+
+Regards
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+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; packagers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; - can we ask them to give the comms team a heads-up in some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; way when they add/change things, so information on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; flavour pages can be updated?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; That would rely on checking each package changelog and getting
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; in touch with the packagers. I don't know how to put some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; incentive (or how to integrate these changelogs) as to make
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; this more easily informative. I believe mageia-app-db work done
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; by Stormi can help a lot here.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; How do we get to take a look at what's currently in mageia-app-db?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I've seen some mention of it on the Devel list, but I haven't read
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it in any detail.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can see a test instance at <A HREF="http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/">http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It won't feature mail or RSS notifications before the end of april,
+</I>&gt;<i> but it can already be used to browse the list of available
+</I>&gt;<i> packages. The &quot;updates&quot; page shows package updates ordered by
+</I>&gt;<i> descending buildtime.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> By default, a filter is set to show only applications. If you want
+</I>&gt;<i> to see all packages, check both &quot;yes&quot; and &quot;no&quot; in the applications
+</I>&gt;<i> filter
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can it be useful for your team ?
+</I>
+On a quick (very quick!) look, I think so - I'm hoping there's a way
+to link package documentation to the rest of the package info, since
+that's what's usually missing!
+
+Thanks for the link!
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 20:55, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> &lt;LOUD REMINDER ABOUT MEETING TOMORROW TO ANYONE READING THIS!!&gt;
+</I>
+Today, 16:00 UTC.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 DVD (32 or 64bit)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 dual arch CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 netinstall CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 LiveCD (32, 64bit, locale specific)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 Mobile (for an equivalent to Flash)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that we can explain in a download/selection page depending on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> intended uses, with a set of default download made available in one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> click (typically, that could be the 32bit LiveCD or dualarch CD).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds great. Now if we can just organise an extra 8 hours in the
+</I>&gt;<i> day, I'll start writing some of the docs... 8-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is the doc team doing anything yet?
+</I>
+I am not sure. I don't think so.
+
+After a discussion with Anne (and related topic on -dev), I think we
+should hold a quick related survey about:
+ * people's perception over the advantages/preferences/disadvantages
+of LiveCDs and full installers
+ * people's perception over the separation of 100% free software
+CD/DVD (providing only our &quot;core&quot; media) and non-free (providing core,
+nonfree and possibly tainted, for hardware drivers for instance).
+
+to make sure we are on track.
+
+&gt;<i> How about words like: issue, release, volume...? Platform is easy to
+</I>&gt;<i> confuse with hardware, and distribution would include everything we
+</I>&gt;<i> release, ne?
+</I>
+That's why a distinct, proper noun would be best. &quot;Issue&quot; may be
+confused with &quot;bug&quot; or &quot;ticket&quot; in the bug-tracking sense. &quot;Volume&quot;
+may be confused with storage volumes, however it could make it I
+guess.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+Hey I was playing around with what amounted to a stack of names that
+went through my head here and there. It's kind of in a list type of format.
+
+It's probably best viewed as plain text.
+
+Here's a short list of possibile monikers to consider along. Feel Free
+to Add to it or whatever. Alternates of this scheme follow the main list
+
+Mageia I eServer (Enterprise Server)
+Mageia I Flash (USB Flash Drive)
+Mageia I Home (Home/Desktops/Laptops/Workstations)
+Mageia I Live (LiveCD)
+Mageia I netLite (NetinstCD)
+Mageia I OpenVM (DVD w/Guests &amp; Templates for the following:
+ VirtualBox; Bochs; VMWare; OpenVZ; Xen PV)
+
+
+
+Other similar monikers:
+
+1.) Magieia I eServer
+
+ a.) Mageia I e
+ b.) Mageia I E
+ c.) Mageia I Enterprise
+ d.) Mageia I Server
+ e.) Mageia I Datacenter
+ f.) Mageia I Production
+ g.) Mageia I Prod [*] My Personal Fav
+
+2.) Mageia I Flash
+
+ a.) Mageia I USB
+ b.) Mageia I uFlash
+ c.) Mageia I u
+ d.) Mageia I U
+ e.) Mageia I Stick
+ f.) Mageia I In A Flash
+ g.) Mageia I Pocket Edition
+ h.) Mageia I Pocket
+ i.) Mageia I Tote
+ j.) Mageia I uTote
+ k.) Mageia I CarryOn
+
+3.) Mageiea I Home
+
+ a.) Mageia I h
+ b.) Mageia I H
+ c.) Mageia I d
+ d.) Mageia I D
+ e.) Mageia I Desktop
+ f.) Mageia I Workstation
+ g.) Mageia I WorkSpace
+ h.) Mageia I Personal
+ i.) Mageia I You
+ j.) Mageia I Pro
+ k.) Mageia I WS
+ l.) Mageia I ProW
+ m.) Mageia I ProDesktop
+ n.) Mageia I Extreme
+ o.) Mageia I P
+ p.) Mageia I Station [*] My Personal Fav
+
+4.) Mageia I Live
+
+ a.) Mageia I LiveCD
+ b.) Mageia I Anywhere
+
+5.) Mageia I netLite
+
+ a.) Mageia I Net
+ b.) Mageia I NetInstall
+ c.) Mageia I Lite
+ d.) Mageia I Min
+ e.) Mageia I NetInst
+ f.) Mageia I Stream
+
+6.) Mageia I OpenVM
+
+ a.) Mageia I VM [*] My Personal Fav
+ b.) Mageia I VM Pack
+ c.) Mageia I Guest
+ d.) Mageia I VirtualMachine
+ e.) Mageia I Virtual
+ f.) Mageia I V
+ g.) Mateia I GuestVM
+ h.) Mageia I Portable
+
+
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.760.666.2703 (US)
+TEL: +44.702.405.1909 (UK)
+<A HREF="http://NorthTech.US">http://NorthTech.US</A>
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
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+I don't know how many of you have seen or checked out the info about
+team representatives on council:
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+A representative duties are to represent their team's voice to the
+Council, or to ponder the discussions within the Council; the Council
+meets every Monday around 19:00 UTC and discussed matters that usually
+already surfaced (or will surface) on other mailing-lists. And the
+exact in's and out's are still to be refined of course.
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+You can check these two docs for more details about the current
+design of this:
+ * <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org:council">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org:council</A>
+ * <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org</A>
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+I'm happy to do this, if nobody else wants to put their hand up.
+
+BUT!
+
+Any representative on the council needs input and feedback from the
+rest of the team - our marketing and comms teams are a bit absent just
+now.
+
+This could be a very good time to hear from the rest of us...?
+
+Cheers,
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+<PRE>On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 22:16, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I don't know how many of you have seen or checked out the info about
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+That would be great, yes !
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+<PRE>Ok, htere's a quick followup and proposal to discuss. I'll forward to
+-discuss next week for further review, so please comment here and now
+already. :-p
+
+On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:31, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 DVD (32 or 64bit)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 dual arch CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 netinstall CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 LiveCD (32, 64bit, locale specific)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 Mobile (for an equivalent to Flash)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that we can explain in a download/selection page depending on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> intended uses, with a set of default download made available in one
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> click (typically, that could be the 32bit LiveCD or dualarch CD).
+</I>
+As I'm drafting the beta1 download page, and to prepare further stuff,
+I suggest the following naming scheme:
+
+ &quot;Mageia 1 (tag) (arch) (flavour) (support)&quot;
+
+with an optional &quot;tag&quot;, &quot;arch&quot; and &quot;flavour&quot;, &quot;support&quot; being CD, DVD,
+BlueRay or other.
+
+As in, with &quot;Mageia 1 beta1&quot; plus:
+ - &quot;Live KDE CD&quot; or &quot;32bit Live KDE CD&quot;
+ - &quot;32bit DVD&quot;
+ - &quot;Dual Arch CD&quot;
+ - &quot;Network Install CD&quot;
+
+ISO filenames would be, for instance, here:
+ - mageia-1-live-kde-europa-cd-beta1-i586.iso
+ - mageia-1-live-gnome-asia-cd-beta1-i586.iso
+ - mageia-1-dvd-beta1-i586.iso
+ - mageia-1-dvd-beta1-x86_64.iso
+ - mageia-1-cd-dualarch.iso
+
+Automatically built/released test ISOs could follow the same nomenclature:
+ - cauldron-20110320230321-dvd-i586-qapass.iso
+ - cauldron-20110320220422-dvd-x86_64-qafail.iso
+
+That would go with the following &quot;template&quot;
+{product}-{version}-{flavour}-{support}-{arch}-{qalabel}.iso with:
+ - product = mageia or cauldron
+ - version = version number or timestamp
+ - flavour (optional) = here, mostly for live-gnome-asia,
+live-kde-europa which could be parsed as well
+ - support = cd, dvd, br, other?
+ - arch = i586, x86_64, other
+ - qalabel (optional) = qapass, qafail
+ - all values lowercase
+
+Now... both schemes (the &quot;technical one&quot; for the ISO file and the
+&quot;human rememberable one&quot; for all the rest of us) don't match. That's
+not perfect and certainly a stronger take could simplify all this.
+
+
+&gt;<i> After a discussion with Anne (and related topic on -dev), I think we
+</I>&gt;<i> should hold a quick related survey about:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;* people's perception over the advantages/preferences/disadvantages
+</I>&gt;<i> of LiveCDs and full installers
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;* people's perception over the separation of 100% free software
+</I>&gt;<i> CD/DVD (providing only our &quot;core&quot; media) and non-free (providing core,
+</I>&gt;<i> nonfree and possibly tainted, for hardware drivers for instance).
+</I>
+We will push for this survey after beta1 release.
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>2011/3/30 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 22:16, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't know how many of you have seen or checked out the info about
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm happy to do this, if nobody else wants to put their hand up.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would be great, yes !
+</I>
++1
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+<PRE>2011/3/30 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Ok, htere's a quick followup and proposal to discuss. I'll forward to
+</I>&gt;<i> -discuss next week for further review, so please comment here and now
+</I>&gt;<i> already. :-p
+</I>
+Whatever the discussions here and on -discuss would bring up, it can
+not be decided at this stage, too many open questions:
+
+ - contents of various ISOs
+ - - main question here: free, non-free, firmware, etc. Only after
+deciding on this we will know for sure about what kind of ISOs we will
+need.
+ - - space for localisation files, having been a PITA for live cd
+design at Mandriva and will not be easier for Mageia.
+ - more
+
+So, IMHO you can use any naming scheme you like, it may have to be
+changed depending on the outcome of pending discussions (like &quot;Free&quot;
+or &quot;Complete&quot; or whatever).
+
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 19:31, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/3/30 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> Whatever the discussions here and on -discuss would bring up, it can
+</I>&gt;<i> not be decided at this stage, too many open questions:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- contents of various ISOs
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- - main question here: free, non-free, firmware, etc. Only after
+</I>&gt;<i> deciding on this we will know for sure about what kind of ISOs we will
+</I>&gt;<i> need.
+</I>
+I understand your point, but this is related to media inclusion, not
+to actual ISO contents, neither to how we structure the name used for
+humans, and for file names (there's no notion of whether we have 100%
+free sofftware or not so far in the nomenclature, just DVD, LiveCD and
+regular CD).
+
+Of course, this can still change, but for the sake of simplicity (and
+of our own sanity), I don't expect us to ship 2 distinct sets (pure
+free, and nonfree) of DVD and LiveCD, as that would make 8 images at a
+minimum.
+
+&gt;<i> So, IMHO you can use any naming scheme you like, it may have to be
+</I>&gt;<i> changed depending on the outcome of pending discussions (like &quot;Free&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> or &quot;Complete&quot; or whatever).
+</I>
+I need one for beta1 already and the proposed one is pretty generic
+(we don't go for &quot;One&quot;, &quot;Free&quot;, &quot;Powerpack&quot; names for instance, we
+just use an optional &quot;flavour&quot; attribute).
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 19:31, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/3/30 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Whatever the discussions here and on -discuss would bring up, it can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not be decided at this stage, too many open questions:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- contents of various ISOs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- - main question here: free, non-free, firmware, etc. Only after
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> deciding on this we will know for sure about what kind of ISOs we will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> need.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I understand your point, but this is related to media inclusion, not
+</I>&gt;<i> to actual ISO contents, neither to how we structure the name used for
+</I>&gt;<i> humans, and for file names (there's no notion of whether we have 100%
+</I>&gt;<i> free sofftware or not so far in the nomenclature, just DVD, LiveCD and
+</I>&gt;<i> regular CD).
+</I>
+What is the difference between &quot;media inclusion&quot; and &quot;ISO contents&quot;?
+
+&gt;<i> Of course, this can still change, but for the sake of simplicity (and
+</I>&gt;<i> of our own sanity), I don't expect us to ship 2 distinct sets (pure
+</I>&gt;<i> free, and nonfree) of DVD and LiveCD, as that would make 8 images at a
+</I>&gt;<i> minimum.
+</I>
+Yes, that's one of my points in the ongoing discussion about this issue.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> So, IMHO you can use any naming scheme you like, it may have to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> changed depending on the outcome of pending discussions (like &quot;Free&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or &quot;Complete&quot; or whatever).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I need one for beta1 already and the proposed one is pretty generic
+</I>&gt;<i> (we don't go for &quot;One&quot;, &quot;Free&quot;, &quot;Powerpack&quot; names for instance, we
+</I>&gt;<i> just use an optional &quot;flavour&quot; attribute).
+</I>
+Yes, that's right, I agree with your proposition. I only wanted to say
+that there is no real need to discuss this question at length, you can
+use this generic scheme until we see what will come up for the final.
+
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+&gt;<i> 2011/3/30 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I understand your point, but this is related to media inclusion, not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to actual ISO contents, neither to how we structure the name used for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> humans, and for file names (there's no notion of whether we have 100%
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> free sofftware or not so far in the nomenclature, just DVD, LiveCD and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> regular CD).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the difference between &quot;media inclusion&quot; and &quot;ISO contents&quot;?
+</I>
+Media inclusion is about what goes into core, nonfree and tainted.
+Those are fully available online.
+
+But, you can't feed all of core into a DVD image. Neither all of
+nonfree. You have to make a selection. Depending on what you decide to
+burn on a ISO, it qualifies for a &quot;100% free software&quot; label or not,
+for instance.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> I need one for beta1 already and the proposed one is pretty generic
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (we don't go for &quot;One&quot;, &quot;Free&quot;, &quot;Powerpack&quot; names for instance, we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just use an optional &quot;flavour&quot; attribute).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, that's right, I agree with your proposition. I only wanted to say
+</I>&gt;<i> that there is no real need to discuss this question at length, you can
+</I>&gt;<i> use this generic scheme until we see what will come up for the final.
+</I>
+Yep, ok, let's do it that way.
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i> 2011/3/30 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 22:16, Patricia Fraser
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I don't know how many of you have seen or checked out the info
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; about team representatives on council: [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I'm happy to do this, if nobody else wants to put their hand up.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That would be great, yes !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>
+8-) I think the rest of the team gets until Sunday night to offer
+their 2c-worth, no?
+
+Cheers,
+
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+
+&gt;<i> Ok, htere's a quick followup and proposal to discuss. I'll forward
+</I>&gt;<i> to -discuss next week for further review, so please comment here
+</I>&gt;<i> and now already. :-p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:31, Romain d'Alverny
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160;* Mageia 1 DVD (32 or 64bit)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160;* Mageia 1 dual arch CD
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160;* Mageia 1 netinstall CD
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160;* Mageia 1 LiveCD (32, 64bit, locale specific)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160;* Mageia 1 Mobile (for an equivalent to Flash)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; that we can explain in a download/selection page depending on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; the intended uses, with a set of default download made
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; available in one click (typically, that could be the 32bit
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; LiveCD or dualarch CD).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As I'm drafting the beta1 download page, and to prepare further
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff, I suggest the following naming scheme:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia 1 (tag) (arch) (flavour) (support)&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> with an optional &quot;tag&quot;, &quot;arch&quot; and &quot;flavour&quot;, &quot;support&quot; being CD,
+</I>&gt;<i> DVD, BlueRay or other.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As in, with &quot;Mageia 1 beta1&quot; plus:
+</I>&gt;<i> - &quot;Live KDE CD&quot; or &quot;32bit Live KDE CD&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> - &quot;32bit DVD&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> - &quot;Dual Arch CD&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> - &quot;Network Install CD&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ISO filenames would be, for instance, here:
+</I>&gt;<i> - mageia-1-live-kde-europa-cd-beta1-i586.iso
+</I>&gt;<i> - mageia-1-live-gnome-asia-cd-beta1-i586.iso
+</I>&gt;<i> - mageia-1-dvd-beta1-i586.iso
+</I>&gt;<i> - mageia-1-dvd-beta1-x86_64.iso
+</I>&gt;<i> - mageia-1-cd-dualarch.iso
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Automatically built/released test ISOs could follow the same
+</I>&gt;<i> nomenclature:
+</I>&gt;<i> - cauldron-20110320230321-dvd-i586-qapass.iso
+</I>&gt;<i> - cauldron-20110320220422-dvd-x86_64-qafail.iso
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would go with the following &quot;template&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> {product}-{version}-{flavour}-{support}-{arch}-{qalabel}.iso with:
+</I>&gt;<i> - product = mageia or cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> - version = version number or timestamp
+</I>&gt;<i> - flavour (optional) = here, mostly for live-gnome-asia,
+</I>&gt;<i> live-kde-europa which could be parsed as well
+</I>&gt;<i> - support = cd, dvd, br, other?
+</I>&gt;<i> - arch = i586, x86_64, other
+</I>&gt;<i> - qalabel (optional) = qapass, qafail
+</I>&gt;<i> - all values lowercase
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now... both schemes (the &quot;technical one&quot; for the ISO file and the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;human rememberable one&quot; for all the rest of us) don't match. That's
+</I>&gt;<i> not perfect and certainly a stronger take could simplify all this.
+</I>
+I like it. (I wouldn't make flavour optional, although it does
+make for awful long filenames if you spell them right out.)
+
+Just a little swerve:
+
+I thought of two subsets of each release: the version (LiveCD, USB,
+Network Install, whatever) and the
+{type|variety|model|configuration|style|branch} - I didn't go as far
+as you in packing/parsing information from the names of installables
+- but I think mine can stretch and meet yours in the middle (if you
+will excuse my metaphors, which have gotten out and are trashing
+the room).
+
+I'm thinking about names that can also be comfortable people whose
+grasp of the term &quot;architecture&quot; is tenuous, even before we
+abbreviate it. 8-)
+
+So, could we maybe make architecture into model; flavour into style;
+support into media, tag into type; and maybe we could split the
+current style into style and {region|language}... so:
+
+mageia-1-live-kde-europa-cd-beta1-i586.iso
+
+name, version, type, style, region, media, status, model...?
+
+This is a *lot* of information for a newbie to parse.
+
+
+Cheers!
+
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 20:17, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/3/30 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 22:16, Patricia Fraser
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I'm happy to do this, if nobody else wants to put their hand up.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; That would be great, yes !
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 8-) I think the rest of the team gets until Sunday night to offer
+</I>&gt;<i> their 2c-worth, no?
+</I>
+That sounds good.
+
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+<PRE>2011/3/30 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 20:03, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/3/30 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I understand your point, but this is related to media inclusion, not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to actual ISO contents, neither to how we structure the name used for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> humans, and for file names (there's no notion of whether we have 100%
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> free sofftware or not so far in the nomenclature, just DVD, LiveCD and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> regular CD).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is the difference between &quot;media inclusion&quot; and &quot;ISO contents&quot;?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Media inclusion is about what goes into core, nonfree and tainted.
+</I>&gt;<i> Those are fully available online.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But, you can't feed all of core into a DVD image. Neither all of
+</I>&gt;<i> nonfree. You have to make a selection. Depending on what you decide to
+</I>&gt;<i> burn on a ISO, it qualifies for a &quot;100% free software&quot; label or not,
+</I>&gt;<i> for instance.
+</I>
+Yes, of course, we both mean the same. The distinction between media
+inclusions has it's consequence in ISO contents as well. Depending on
+the outcome of the discussion I pointed to we may have
+ - ISOs with parts of core only
+ - ISOs with parts of core + parts of non-free
+ - ISOs with parts of all three branches
+
+So both (media inclusion and ISO contents) are related and will
+possibly have their influence on the naming to make it easy for the
+user to distinguish one from the other.
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I need one for beta1 already and the proposed one is pretty generic
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (we don't go for &quot;One&quot;, &quot;Free&quot;, &quot;Powerpack&quot; names for instance, we
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> just use an optional &quot;flavour&quot; attribute).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, that's right, I agree with your proposition. I only wanted to say
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that there is no real need to discuss this question at length, you can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> use this generic scheme until we see what will come up for the final.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep, ok, let's do it that way.
+</I>
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+On 03/30/2011 11:17 AM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/3/30 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 22:16, Patricia Fraser
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I don't know how many of you have seen or checked out the info
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> about team representatives on council: [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm happy to do this, if nobody else wants to put their hand up.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That would be great, yes !
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 8-) I think the rest of the team gets until Sunday night to offer
+</I>&gt;<i> their 2c-worth, no?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>
++1 more = 3 (Not counting Patricia herself ;) ).
+
+&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+On 03/30/2011 11:29 AM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, htere's a quick followup and proposal to discuss. I'll forward
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to -discuss next week for further review, so please comment here
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and now already. :-p
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:31, Romain d'Alverny
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 DVD (32 or 64bit)
+</I>
+Yeah, that's not going to happen. the 32 bit will be 32 bit, while the
+64 bit will be dual arch (below).
+
+Very, very few Distros ship a pure 64 bit GNU/Linux, and Mageia isn't
+going to be one of them, FYI.
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 dual arch CD
+</I>
+AKA Mageia 1 64, for example.
+
+I realize we haven't settled on the naming conventions yet, but since
+there won't be a pure 64bit Mageia there's no point in exploring such
+nomenclature - Mageia 1 will come in either 32 bit, or 64bit multi-lib
+including the libs, gcc, etc. to support it.
+
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 02:03, Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 03/30/2011 11:29 AM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:31, Romain d'Alverny
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 DVD (32 or 64bit)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah, that's not going to happen. the 32 bit will be 32 bit, while the
+</I>&gt;<i> 64 bit will be dual arch (below).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Very, very few Distros ship a pure 64 bit GNU/Linux, and Mageia isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> going to be one of them, FYI.
+</I>
+Well there may be some misunderstanding here; that's two separate things:
+ * dual arch hosts both 32bit and 64bit installs, of which you decide
+on install;
+ * 64bit DVD is a full install DVD for 64bit architectures - yes,
+there are some 32bit dependencies still used, but there are fewer of
+them; the intent/direciton is a pure 64bit thing - whatever time it
+takes.
+
+Ennael tells me we ought to re-explain what is expected in these
+formats. But of course, after beta1, we will hold a survey to sort
+through expectations of the final formats we will release in June.
+
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 20:29, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I'm thinking about names that can also be comfortable people whose
+</I>&gt;<i> grasp of the term &quot;architecture&quot; is tenuous, even before we
+</I>&gt;<i> abbreviate it. 8-)
+</I>
+Well, architecture is the right term. A model would be something even
+more specific (a specific computer or device) and that is not so far
+fetched as to imagine we may have builds for specific devices some day
+soon (at least I hope so). And we would use the name &quot;model&quot; here.
+
+&gt;<i> So, could we maybe make architecture into model; flavour into style;
+</I>&gt;<i> support into media, tag into type; and maybe we could split the
+</I>&gt;<i> current style into style and {region|language}... so:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-1-live-kde-europa-cd-beta1-i586.iso
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> name, version, type, style, region, media, status, model...?
+</I>
+The type is optional here.
+
+The LiveCD is an exception so far: the region is only relevant in the
+Live CD context, because we can't fit all locales in a single CD
+storage (700MB): so we have to decide either to build a single Live CD
+with a limited range of languages, either to build several Live CD,
+one for each languages set (or to have a LiveDVD, but this would
+defeat the small download size goal then).
+
+For other ISOs, we have DVDs (32bit, 64bit), CD (dual arch, netinstall
+- 32bit &amp; 64 too). As wobo told, we may have others too because we'll
+decide to release different objects, depending on survey
+understandings and goals.
+
+&gt;<i> This is a *lot* of information for a newbie to parse.
+</I>
+Even too much. And partly because of that, the download page will have
+the task to preselect the ISOs to download to the most likely ones to
+be used by the visitor, for instance:
+ - first we will mostly rely on the browser language prefs (for the
+locale you're likely to search for) and remote IP address (for the
+mirror to preselect),
+ - for later releases, we can envision some data analytics on
+downloads and usage stats to refine.
+
+
+Romain
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+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000187.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000206.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meetings
+</A><A NAME="206">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000153.html">[Mageia-marketing] Forgot to post this...
+</A><A NAME="153">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-marketing] Was just kicking around some words...
+</A><A NAME="189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000202.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="202">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000203.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="203">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000186.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000154.html">[Mageia-marketing] Forgot to post this...
+</A><A NAME="154">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000155.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="155">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="156">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-marketing] Weekly updates (and meetings in general)
+</A><A NAME="159">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000161.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Media Query: Interview Request With Mageia
+</A><A NAME="161">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000162.html">[Mageia-marketing] Weekly updates (and meetings in general)
+</A><A NAME="162">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia calendar
+</A><A NAME="165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Media Query: Interview Request With Mageia
+</A><A NAME="169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info screens
+</A><A NAME="170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info screens
+</A><A NAME="172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info text - please check
+</A><A NAME="174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Web site(s)
+</A><A NAME="176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 11 meeting: websites, products, comm plan, action
+</A><A NAME="182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000188.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000192.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000200.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="200">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000204.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="204">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000205.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="205">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Mar 31 20:11:54 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Mar 31 20:12:14 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <hr>
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+ <h1>March 2011 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Mar 1 15:15:36 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Mar 31 20:11:54 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 56<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000151.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000152.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000153.html">[Mageia-marketing] Forgot to post this...
+</A><A NAME="153">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000154.html">[Mageia-marketing] Forgot to post this...
+</A><A NAME="154">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000155.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="155">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="156">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="157">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-marketing] Weekly updates (and meetings in general)
+</A><A NAME="158">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-marketing] Weekly updates (and meetings in general)
+</A><A NAME="159">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000160.html">[Mageia-marketing] Weekly updates (and meetings in general)
+</A><A NAME="160">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000161.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Media Query: Interview Request With Mageia
+</A><A NAME="161">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000162.html">[Mageia-marketing] Weekly updates (and meetings in general)
+</A><A NAME="162">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000163.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Media Query: Interview Request With Mageia
+</A><A NAME="163">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia calendar
+</A><A NAME="164">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia calendar
+</A><A NAME="165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000166.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia calendar
+</A><A NAME="166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia calendar
+</A><A NAME="167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia calendar
+</A><A NAME="168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Media Query: Interview Request With Mageia
+</A><A NAME="169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info screens
+</A><A NAME="170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info screens
+</A><A NAME="171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info screens
+</A><A NAME="172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info text - please check
+</A><A NAME="173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info text - please check
+</A><A NAME="174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info text - please check
+</A><A NAME="175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Web site(s)
+</A><A NAME="176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 11 meeting: websites, products, comm plan, action
+</A><A NAME="182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000185.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000186.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000187.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000188.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-marketing] Was just kicking around some words...
+</A><A NAME="189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000192.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000193.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000200.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="200">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000201.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="201">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000202.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="202">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000203.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="203">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000204.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="204">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000205.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="205">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000206.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meetings
+</A><A NAME="206">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Mar 31 20:11:54 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Mar 31 20:12:14 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>March 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Mar 1 15:15:36 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Mar 31 20:11:54 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 56<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 11 meeting: websites, products, comm plan, action
+</A><A NAME="182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000151.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000152.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000155.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="155">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="156">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="157">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000153.html">[Mageia-marketing] Forgot to post this...
+</A><A NAME="153">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000154.html">[Mageia-marketing] Forgot to post this...
+</A><A NAME="154">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000186.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000187.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Media Query: Interview Request With Mageia
+</A><A NAME="169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000161.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Media Query: Interview Request With Mageia
+</A><A NAME="161">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000163.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Media Query: Interview Request With Mageia
+</A><A NAME="163">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info screens
+</A><A NAME="170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info screens
+</A><A NAME="171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info screens
+</A><A NAME="172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info text - please check
+</A><A NAME="173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info text - please check
+</A><A NAME="174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info text - please check
+</A><A NAME="175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia calendar
+</A><A NAME="164">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia calendar
+</A><A NAME="165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000166.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia calendar
+</A><A NAME="166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia calendar
+</A><A NAME="167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia calendar
+</A><A NAME="168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000185.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000188.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000192.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000201.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="201">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000203.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="203">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000204.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="204">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000205.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="205">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Web site(s)
+</A><A NAME="176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000193.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000200.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="200">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000202.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom representative on the Mageia council
+</A><A NAME="202">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000206.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meetings
+</A><A NAME="206">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-marketing] Was just kicking around some words...
+</A><A NAME="189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-marketing] Weekly updates (and meetings in general)
+</A><A NAME="158">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-marketing] Weekly updates (and meetings in general)
+</A><A NAME="159">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000160.html">[Mageia-marketing] Weekly updates (and meetings in general)
+</A><A NAME="160">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000162.html">[Mageia-marketing] Weekly updates (and meetings in general)
+</A><A NAME="162">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Mar 31 20:11:54 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Mar 31 20:12:14 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <h1>March 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Mar 1 15:15:36 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Mar 31 20:11:54 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 56<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01298988936- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000151.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01298988936-01299004164- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000152.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01298988936-01299004164-01299521659- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="156">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299027426- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000153.html">[Mageia-marketing] Forgot to post this...
+</A><A NAME="153">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299027426-01299068049- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000154.html">[Mageia-marketing] Forgot to post this...
+</A><A NAME="154">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299521032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000155.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="155">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299521032-01299525501- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-marketing] Back to work - meeting proposal
+</A><A NAME="157">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299528562- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-marketing] Weekly updates (and meetings in general)
+</A><A NAME="158">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299528562-01299531931- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-marketing] Weekly updates (and meetings in general)
+</A><A NAME="159">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299528562-01299531931-01299532442- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000160.html">[Mageia-marketing] Weekly updates (and meetings in general)
+</A><A NAME="160">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01299528562-01299531931-01299532442-01299535335- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000162.html">[Mageia-marketing] Weekly updates (and meetings in general)
+</A><A NAME="162">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299533996- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000161.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Media Query: Interview Request With Mageia
+</A><A NAME="161">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299533996-01299571377- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000163.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Media Query: Interview Request With Mageia
+</A><A NAME="163">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299533996-01299571377-01299596451- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Media Query: Interview Request With Mageia
+</A><A NAME="169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299589356- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia calendar
+</A><A NAME="164">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299589356-01299589939- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia calendar
+</A><A NAME="165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299589356-01299589939-01299590154- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000166.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia calendar
+</A><A NAME="166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01299589356-01299589939-01299590154-01299591274- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia calendar
+</A><A NAME="167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299589356-01299589939-01299590154-01299592898- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia calendar
+</A><A NAME="168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299756921- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info screens
+</A><A NAME="170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299756921-01299779859- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info screens
+</A><A NAME="171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299756921-01299779859-01299780181- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info screens
+</A><A NAME="172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299782237- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info text - please check
+</A><A NAME="173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299782237-01299794419- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info text - please check
+</A><A NAME="174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299782237-01299794419-01299795197- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer info text - please check
+</A><A NAME="175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01300187121- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Web site(s)
+</A><A NAME="176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01300201119- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01300201119-01300220847- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01300201119-01300220847-01300286215- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01300201119-01300303162- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01300201119-01300303162-01300307620- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01300363272- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 11 meeting: websites, products, comm plan, action
+</A><A NAME="182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01300893683- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01300893683-01300893893- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01300893683-01300893893-01300910131- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000185.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01300893683-01300893893-01300910131-01300962687- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000188.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300893683-01300893893-01300910131-01300962687-01301501935- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000192.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300893683-01300893893-01300910131-01300962687-01301501935-01301506277- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300893683-01300893893-01300910131-01300962687-01301501935-01301506277-01301507617- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300893683-01300893893-01300910131-01300962687-01301501935-01301506277-01301507617-01301508221- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300893683-01300893893-01300910131-01300962687-01301501935-01301506277-01301507617-01301508221-01301508678- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300893683-01300893893-01300910131-01300962687-01301501935-01301506277-01301507617-01301508221-01301508678-01301518423- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000201.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="201">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300893683-01300893893-01300910131-01300962687-01301501935-01301509786- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300893683-01300893893-01300910131-01300962687-01301501935-01301509786-01301529785- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000203.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="203">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300893683-01300893893-01300910131-01300962687-01301501935-01301509786-01301529785-01301562268- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000204.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="204">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01300893683-01300893893-01300910131-01300962687-01301501935-01301509786-01301563355- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000205.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="205">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+a quick update.
+
+First. Do we have new meeting time options?
+
+On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 23:43, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- hugs; quick to setup and throw;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yep. And *always* good!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok. <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1043">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1043</A>
+</I>
+It's online on <A HREF="http://hugs.mageia.org/">http://hugs.mageia.org/</A> - hopefully with more picture
+from contributors soon (need to explicit the process to have one's
+pictures there).
+
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- blog post series (technical stacks first, contributors second, [...]
+</I>
+Started a draft for the introductory post:
+<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/?p=767&amp;preview=true">http://blog.mageia.org/en/?p=767&amp;preview=true</A> - comments welcome
+
+So far, I asked three persons, got one reply (minus the missing
+picture :-p ) maybe should I post the full call on -dev or -discuss?
+
+We start with the tech series and the format is the one described in
+<A HREF="http://piratepad.net/AX93jcSCTo">http://piratepad.net/AX93jcSCTo</A>
+
+
+&gt;<i> Then we'll need to refine the download &amp; support portals.
+</I>
+We'll probably start to discuss this tomorrow Friday online with obgr
+(on #mageia-web, around 14:00 Paris time), then on Tuesday or
+Wednesday in Solutions Linux event in Paris, then on Thursday/Friday
+with obgr and others in Berlin for LinuxTag. And we will make back an
+online summary of that the week after. If anyone already have
+design/mockups/anything, bring them in!
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> The kakemono - is it finished, and did Damien get to use it?
+</I>
+So far, we're going to print a A2 size poster with the logo - we'll
+need to have something prepared more in advance for next time.
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* marketing plan: [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> Will do next week (and will be around on irc). I'm offline until Monday now.
+</I>
+And... I was late again. And the original plan I layed out shifted as
+well. Anyway, I posted it here:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=planning">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=planning</A> (it's next to unreadable
+compared to a spreadsheet, still better than a calendar... should find
+another option). Still, it helps to plan a bit in advance and see
+where we could go (and what to remove already if we can't make it).
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 21:04, Juergen Harms &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Probably the list would best be compiled by collecting ideas and arguments
+</I>&gt;<i> in this or some other ML, but doing some central editing to keep it well
+</I>&gt;<i> focused and snappy. Another question is how to make it available - probably
+</I>&gt;<i> the preliminary wiki or the blog are good places.
+</I>
+ * Wiki first, to collect organize.
+ * then we can instill parts of it in the blog
+ * more surely we can use this to shape the website pages promoting the release.
+
+Hmmm do you have a list to start with? :-p
+
+&gt;<i> ---- original message to the mageia discuss list -------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Does a list exist which enumerates arguments in favour of selecting Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> when choosing a Linux distribution? - a vademecum for Mageia addicts for
+</I>&gt;<i> proselyte making.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When advocating Mageia, it would be nice not to have to invent &#160;the same
+</I>&gt;<i> list somebody else compiled a couple of days ago, just for himself, and
+</I>&gt;<i> would be nice to know the striking arguments oneself did not think about.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just saw on our Linux ML in the university a debate (k)Ubuntu or Mint or
+</I>&gt;<i> ... - nice occasion to drop the good message. I think the present time is an
+</I>&gt;<i> excellent moment: even if the distro says &quot;only for testing&quot;, Beta is mature
+</I>&gt;<i> for production - anticipate the campaign certainly planned for the official
+</I>&gt;<i> launch by an &quot;insider campaign&quot;. Some organising of spreading the gospel
+</I>&gt;<i> will certainly help.
+</I>
+
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+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> a quick update.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First. Do we have new meeting time options?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 23:43, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- hugs; quick to setup and throw;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yep. And *always* good!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ok. <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1043">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1043</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's online on <A HREF="http://hugs.mageia.org/">http://hugs.mageia.org/</A> - hopefully with more picture
+</I>&gt;<i> from contributors soon (need to explicit the process to have one's
+</I>&gt;<i> pictures there).
+</I>
+Hmm, what is this about? I know that some people like to hug everybody
+who does not quit the scene immediately (Fran&#231;ois B. :) ), but how is
+this related to Mageia?
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> 2011/5/5 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's online on <A HREF="http://hugs.mageia.org/">http://hugs.mageia.org/</A> - hopefully with more picture
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from contributors soon (need to explicit the process to have one's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> pictures there).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm, what is this about? I know that some people like to hug everybody
+</I>&gt;<i> who does not quit the scene immediately (Fran&#231;ois B. :) ), but how is
+</I>&gt;<i> this related to Mageia?
+</I>
+As I explained before, that's a small detail in the &quot;show the
+friendly, human side&quot; of the project; it's not a question of faking
+anything; pictures of people+posters there should be genuine
+participants in the project. It's a small, anecdotal, low-traffic page
+meant to put some fun, nothing more, nothing less.
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>2011/5/5 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 19:33, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/5 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's online on <A HREF="http://hugs.mageia.org/">http://hugs.mageia.org/</A> - hopefully with more picture
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> from contributors soon (need to explicit the process to have one's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> pictures there).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, what is this about? I know that some people like to hug everybody
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> who does not quit the scene immediately (Fran&#231;ois B. :) ), but how is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this related to Mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As I explained before, that's a small detail in the &quot;show the
+</I>&gt;<i> friendly, human side&quot; of the project; it's not a question of faking
+</I>&gt;<i> anything; pictures of people+posters there should be genuine
+</I>&gt;<i> participants in the project. It's a small, anecdotal, low-traffic page
+</I>&gt;<i> meant to put some fun, nothing more, nothing less.
+</I>
+Yes, I read that and understood it to be some kind of &quot;who we are&quot;
+page where everybody of the Mageia crowd can show his face - but why
+is it called &quot;hugs&quot;? That's what I don't understand. If I'd place my
+pic there I don't want to hug anybody, I'd just want to show them what
+face hides behind the name in case anybody would ask for it.
+May be I don't understand the whole meaning of this.
+
+--
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+&gt;<i> First. Do we have new meeting time options?
+</I>
+Sorry - still travelling, so not around for a meeting this week, but
+I&#180;m happy to keep Thursday if we can make the time later - say 18:30
+UTC or later. I don&#180;t know what other people would like, so I&#180;m
+flexible as to day - but not really as to time.
+
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 23:43, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160;- hugs; quick to setup and throw;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Yep. And *always* good!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ok. <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1043">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1043</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's online on <A HREF="http://hugs.mageia.org/">http://hugs.mageia.org/</A> - hopefully with more picture
+</I>&gt;<i> from contributors soon (need to explicit the process to have one's
+</I>&gt;<i> pictures there).
+</I>
+8-) I like it. I think Wobo should *definitely* get the first hug.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160; &#160;- blog post series (technical stacks first, contributors
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; second, [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Started a draft for the introductory post:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/?p=767&amp;preview=true">http://blog.mageia.org/en/?p=767&amp;preview=true</A> - comments welcome
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So far, I asked three persons, got one reply (minus the missing
+</I>&gt;<i> picture :-p ) maybe should I post the full call on -dev or -discuss?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We start with the tech series and the format is the one described in
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/AX93jcSCTo">http://piratepad.net/AX93jcSCTo</A>
+</I>
+8-) It&#180;s not easy. Maybe start with the board, to set an example?
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Then we'll need to refine the download &amp; support portals.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We'll probably start to discuss this tomorrow Friday online with obgr
+</I>&gt;<i> (on #mageia-web, around 14:00 Paris time), then on Tuesday or
+</I>&gt;<i> Wednesday in Solutions Linux event in Paris, then on Thursday/Friday
+</I>&gt;<i> with obgr and others in Berlin for LinuxTag. And we will make back an
+</I>&gt;<i> online summary of that the week after. If anyone already have
+</I>&gt;<i> design/mockups/anything, bring them in!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The kakemono - is it finished, and did Damien get to use it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So far, we're going to print a A2 size poster with the logo - we'll
+</I>&gt;<i> need to have something prepared more in advance for next time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160;* marketing plan: [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Will do next week (and will be around on irc). I'm offline until
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Monday now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And... I was late again. And the original plan I layed out shifted as
+</I>&gt;<i> well. Anyway, I posted it here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=planning">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=planning</A> (it's next to unreadable
+</I>&gt;<i> compared to a spreadsheet, still better than a calendar... should find
+</I>&gt;<i> another option). Still, it helps to plan a bit in advance and see
+</I>&gt;<i> where we could go (and what to remove already if we can't make it).
+</I>
+It&#180;s a great start. I&#180;ll be back on deck next week around Thursday, so
+hopefully I&#180;ll have some contribution to make - thanks for keeping the
+cauldron simmering!
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Patricia Fraser
+On the move
+Gnu/Linux 1997-2008 #283226 counter.li.org
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+<PRE>What I missed in this review is the practical side - referring to the
+events coming up. They may be not so important in the long run as the
+whole discussion about values and targets and hugging places, but
+they are needed next week!
+
+ - do we have some kind of marketing there except for the poster and
+the t-shirts?
+ - what about a presentation running on a screen?
+ - what about stickers?
+ - what about a CD label to offer along with CDs burned on location?
+
+For Berlin we will have:
+ - a large poster
+ - t-shirts
+ - a presentation (LO Impress) running on a 26&quot; screen
+ - CDs to be burned on request (would be nice to have a label
+available for download)
+
+--
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+&gt;<i> Yes, I read that and understood it to be some kind of &quot;who we are&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> page where everybody of the Mageia crowd can show his face - but why
+</I>&gt;<i> is it called &quot;hugs&quot;? That's what I don't understand. If I'd place my
+</I>&gt;<i> pic there I don't want to hug anybody, I'd just want to show them what
+</I>&gt;<i> face hides behind the name in case anybody would ask for it.
+</I>
+That's for a totally different thing. hugs is anecdotal and
+volunteered-based. For what you describe, bonjourmageia* and the blog
+and the profile/team pages are more to the point.
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+&gt;<i> &#160;- do we have some kind of marketing there except for the poster and
+</I>&gt;<i> the t-shirts?
+</I>
+Not that I know of here.
+
+&gt;<i> &#160;- what about a presentation running on a screen?
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- what about stickers?
+</I>
+I'll get some from Damien next week (same FOSDEM series so far).
+
+&gt;<i> &#160;- what about a CD label to offer along with CDs burned on location?
+</I>
+Needs a design - are there templates for that? we could at least make
+a basic one with just the logo.
+
+We may be short/small on materials so far but then we can focus on
+speaking with people and better identifying where we can do something
+differently.
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 23:10, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- do we have some kind of marketing there except for the poster and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the t-shirts?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not that I know of here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what about a presentation running on a screen?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what about stickers?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll get some from Damien next week (same FOSDEM series so far).
+</I>
+The events are next week, so this is too late (for Berlin). :(
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what about a CD label to offer along with CDs burned on location?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Needs a design - are there templates for that? we could at least make
+</I>&gt;<i> a basic one with just the logo.
+</I>
+Can we have that for next Wednesday?
+
+&gt;<i> We may be short/small on materials so far but then we can focus on
+</I>&gt;<i> speaking with people and better identifying where we can do something
+</I>&gt;<i> differently.
+</I>
+It's not so much about &quot;short on material&quot;, there's a lot which could
+have been done (like nice CD/DVD labels, a nice screen presentation,
+graphical flyer layout with a general text to be translated and used
+in different countries, etc.
+
+At least these major European events have been known to come for many
+months (even listed as milestones in the wiki) and it looks as if I
+was the only one asking constantly for these kinds of things (starting
+in late February/March). IMHO these practical needs were a bit
+neglected because everybody in this section was occupied by
+discussions about marketing theories. Sorry to say that, but this is
+how it looks in reality.
+
+Pls do not take this so much as critic of the past - to late and
+useless to discuss - but rather as a hint for marketing tasks for
+future events.
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:45, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what about stickers?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'll get some from Damien next week (same FOSDEM series so far).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The events are next week, so this is too late (for Berlin). :(
+</I>
+I'm getting those on Monday - I will only bring them with me on
+Thursday, indeed.
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what about a CD label to offer along with CDs burned on location?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Needs a design - are there templates for that? we could at least make
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a basic one with just the logo.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can we have that for next Wednesday?
+</I>
+I think ennael is on this.
+
+&gt;<i> It's not so much about &quot;short on material&quot;, there's a lot which could
+</I>&gt;<i> have been done (like nice CD/DVD labels, a nice screen presentation,
+</I>&gt;<i> graphical flyer layout with a general text to be translated and used
+</I>&gt;<i> in different countries, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At least these major European events have been known to come for many
+</I>&gt;<i> months (even listed as milestones in the wiki) and it looks as if I
+</I>&gt;<i> was the only one asking constantly for these kinds of things (starting
+</I>&gt;<i> in late February/March). IMHO these practical needs were a bit
+</I>&gt;<i> neglected because everybody in this section was occupied by
+</I>&gt;<i> discussions about marketing theories. Sorry to say that, but this is
+</I>&gt;<i> how it looks in reality.
+</I>
+Or too busy on other bits of the project or elsewhere. So that
+naturally leaves more room for discussions, indeed, instead of getting
+more things done and released.
+
+Maybe having a time plan layed out in a more practical way + assigned
+tasks (making it more visual/obvious to more people) could help a bit
+more.
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:45, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what about stickers?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'll get some from Damien next week (same FOSDEM series so far).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The events are next week, so this is too late (for Berlin). :(
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm getting those on Monday - I will only bring them with me on
+</I>&gt;<i> Thursday, indeed.
+</I>
+Ok, so we will have them for the harvester days (Friday/saturday) :)
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what about a CD label to offer along with CDs burned on location?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Needs a design - are there templates for that? we could at least make
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a basic one with just the logo.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can we have that for next Wednesday?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think ennael is on this.
+</I>
+She sent it over already and I will change the short text line to
+german, so we can use it in Berlin. I will also put it on the server
+for our German users.
+I think Anne will use it at Solutions Linux as well.
+
+&gt;<i> Or too busy on other bits of the project or elsewhere. So that
+</I>&gt;<i> naturally leaves more room for discussions, indeed, instead of getting
+</I>&gt;<i> more things done and released.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe having a time plan layed out in a more practical way + assigned
+</I>&gt;<i> tasks (making it more visual/obvious to more people) could help a bit
+</I>&gt;<i> more.
+</I>
+At mandrivauser.de we write such things down in the wiki, assign
+people to it (all of this very early) and then those people have to
+get their tasks done when the time comes. This way there will be
+(almost) no &quot;last minute tasks&quot;.
+
+I see the whole matter from both sides as well. The problem is:
+Discussions about strategies and plans and elsewhere are essential, no
+doubt. But it is also possible to prolongue such discussions past a
+first deadline if needed. The simple practical and visible things can
+not be postponed because they are bound to fixed schedules (such as
+events and release dates).
+
+--
+wobo
+</PRE>
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+&gt;<i> 2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:45, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what about stickers?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'll get some from Damien next week (same FOSDEM series so far).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The events are next week, so this is too late (for Berlin). :(
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm getting those on Monday - I will only bring them with me on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thursday, indeed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, so we will have them for the harvester days (Friday/saturday) :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what about a CD label to offer along with CDs burned on location?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Needs a design - are there templates for that? we could at least make
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a basic one with just the logo.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can we have that for next Wednesday?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think ennael is on this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> She sent it over already and I will change the short text line to
+</I>&gt;<i> german, so we can use it in Berlin. I will also put it on the server
+</I>&gt;<i> for our German users.
+</I>&gt;<i> I think Anne will use it at Solutions Linux as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Or too busy on other bits of the project or elsewhere. So that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> naturally leaves more room for discussions, indeed, instead of getting
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> more things done and released.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe having a time plan layed out in a more practical way + assigned
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tasks (making it more visual/obvious to more people) could help a bit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> more.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At mandrivauser.de we write such things down in the wiki, assign
+</I>&gt;<i> people to it (all of this very early) and then those people have to
+</I>&gt;<i> get their tasks done when the time comes. This way there will be
+</I>&gt;<i> (almost) no &quot;last minute tasks&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I see the whole matter from both sides as well. The problem is:
+</I>&gt;<i> Discussions about strategies and plans and elsewhere are essential, no
+</I>&gt;<i> doubt. But it is also possible to prolongue such discussions past a
+</I>&gt;<i> first deadline if needed. The simple practical and visible things can
+</I>&gt;<i> not be postponed because they are bound to fixed schedules (such as
+</I>&gt;<i> events and release dates).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>
+I can try to propose a screen presentation. It will need to be translated then
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2011/5/6 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 2011/5/6 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:45, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what about stickers?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'll get some from Damien next week (same FOSDEM series so far).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The events are next week, so this is too late (for Berlin). :(
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm getting those on Monday - I will only bring them with me on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thursday, indeed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, so we will have them for the harvester days (Friday/saturday) :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what about a CD label to offer along with CDs burned on location?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Needs a design - are there templates for that? we could at least make
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a basic one with just the logo.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can we have that for next Wednesday?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think ennael is on this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> She sent it over already and I will change the short text line to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> german, so we can use it in Berlin. I will also put it on the server
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for our German users.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think Anne will use it at Solutions Linux as well.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Or too busy on other bits of the project or elsewhere. So that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> naturally leaves more room for discussions, indeed, instead of getting
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more things done and released.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe having a time plan layed out in a more practical way + assigned
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tasks (making it more visual/obvious to more people) could help a bit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> At mandrivauser.de we write such things down in the wiki, assign
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people to it (all of this very early) and then those people have to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> get their tasks done when the time comes. This way there will be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (almost) no &quot;last minute tasks&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I see the whole matter from both sides as well. The problem is:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Discussions about strategies and plans and elsewhere are essential, no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> doubt. But it is also possible to prolongue such discussions past a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> first deadline if needed. The simple practical and visible things can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not be postponed because they are bound to fixed schedules (such as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> events and release dates).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can try to propose a screen presentation. It will need to be translated then
+</I>
+I
+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+&gt;<i> 2011/5/6 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/6 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:45, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what about stickers?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'll get some from Damien next week (same FOSDEM series so far).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The events are next week, so this is too late (for Berlin). :(
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm getting those on Monday - I will only bring them with me on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thursday, indeed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, so we will have them for the harvester days (Friday/saturday) :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- what about a CD label to offer along with CDs burned on location?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Needs a design - are there templates for that? we could at least make
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a basic one with just the logo.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can we have that for next Wednesday?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think ennael is on this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> She sent it over already and I will change the short text line to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> german, so we can use it in Berlin. I will also put it on the server
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for our German users.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think Anne will use it at Solutions Linux as well.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Or too busy on other bits of the project or elsewhere. So that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> naturally leaves more room for discussions, indeed, instead of getting
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more things done and released.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe having a time plan layed out in a more practical way + assigned
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tasks (making it more visual/obvious to more people) could help a bit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> At mandrivauser.de we write such things down in the wiki, assign
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> people to it (all of this very early) and then those people have to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> get their tasks done when the time comes. This way there will be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (almost) no &quot;last minute tasks&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I see the whole matter from both sides as well. The problem is:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Discussions about strategies and plans and elsewhere are essential, no
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> doubt. But it is also possible to prolongue such discussions past a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> first deadline if needed. The simple practical and visible things can
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not be postponed because they are bound to fixed schedules (such as
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> events and release dates).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can try to propose a screen presentation. It will need to be translated then
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I
+</I>Oops! Sorry
+
+If you want to do that until Sunday night, would be nice, then I can
+translate Monday (Tuesday morning I will be on the train to Berlin).
+If not possible I will do one for this German event, to be replaced
+with a real one, using final release images.
+
+--
+wobo
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+ <B>Juergen Harms</B>
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+<PRE>Evidently, I had thought about some items to go into such a list: there
+is a short list at the end of this message - far from exhaustive and a
+very personal view, seen from the kind of user I represent.
+
+My items do not cover the ground, but the list should be kept short:
+there is need to consider arguments to attract canditate users coming
+from windows, maybe also the &quot;hugging&quot; aspect proposed by Romain, but I
+do not feel competetent in that domain. Arguments should fit into some
+kind of a &quot;template&quot;.
+
+I like the examples of graphical competence that pop up everywhere in
+Mageia: if such a list is really implemented and is short, how about
+adding a kind of line-drawing sketch to the presentation of each
+argument (style: the bug that appears/appeared during the install
+sequence) - that might help to take away the taste of &quot;oh,
+self-promotion&quot; and make people laugh.
+
+Apropos hugging aspect: I do not think that such a list should primarily
+address emotional aspects, it should address the potential user who -
+and that is at the intellectual level - realizes that there are
+alternatives, and starts scratching his head.
+
+--------------
+
+Quality:
+Mageia is promising to be as solid and perfect as Mandriva at the best
+of its times (Mandriva heritage)
+
+Language support:
+Mageia wants to provide a box that perfectly &quot;speaks&quot; many languages -
+its structure and its anchor in the user community have already now
+produced excellent results (Mandriva heritage + enhancement)
+
+Multi-profile support:
+Mageia offers and maintains application that address the needs of a
+large variety of user communities - with applications ranging from
+game-playing and music-listening to scientific and engineering
+applications (Mandriva heritage)
+
+Leading-edge / stability equilibrium:
+&lt;text needed to go in here - delicate, it touches the rolling release
+discussion&gt;
+
+User &lt;-&gt; maintainer interaction:
+&lt;text needed to go in here&gt; (Mageia community concept)
+
+Friendly human side: (quoting Romain)
+&lt;text needed to go in here&gt;
+
+Sorry to be so late with my reply - I had not created a filter for
+mageia-marketing and thunderbird had put away all your messages as junk (-
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+&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/6 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I can try to propose a screen presentation. It will need to be translated then
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to do that until Sunday night, would be nice, then I can
+</I>&gt;<i> translate Monday (Tuesday morning I will be on the train to Berlin).
+</I>&gt;<i> If not possible I will do one for this German event, to be replaced
+</I>&gt;<i> with a real one, using final release images.
+</I>
+Did you find the time for that? Pls send it over ASAP, even if it is
+only a draft.
+I need to get this done until tonight (tomorrow is occupied by
+travelling and setting up the stand).
+
+--
+wobo
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+</I>
+&gt;<i> I think ennael is on this.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> It's not so much about &quot;short on material&quot;, there's a lot which could
+</I>&gt;<i> have been done (like nice CD/DVD labels, a nice screen presentation,
+</I>&gt;<i> graphical flyer layout with a general text to be translated and used
+</I>&gt;<i> in different countries, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>[...]
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+
+I agree to this. But it should be easier to upload your stuff and to get in
+touch
+of other people while designing the CDEEs.
+As a shop worker in seconded handed CDROms for computer software, I figure
+out
+the design of the CD wallet is very important. It should be designed in a
+fashion people know where Mageia is al about. I think a pictorial way of
+portraying Mageia is the best solution. I think Ubuntu CD wallets are great
+in their choice of color, but not attractive in the sense people see
+pictogrammes, pictures or diagrammes. I believe a nice graphical design
+would be a great. I have made up some lettres. Perhaps I can get into touch
+with some who can help us spread Mageia.
+
+I like to help translate Mageia.
+
+What are the core keypoints or strongholds of the Mageia distribution. I
+figure out
+during the social media session here in Uden (Netherlands). Social media is
+very important, especially Linkedin, Twitter, etcetera. There was a guy, he
+talked about TweetDeck. Perhaps such an application should be integrated in
+the Mageia distro.
+I think Mageia should promote itself by social networks.
+
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+Yours faithfully,
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+<PRE>Just a headsup:
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+rda, tv and I will be working together on putting together a tutorial
+to explain mgaonline to mdv users changing over, so a basic
+user-centric not-too-technical explanation of the upgrade process.
+
+Help welcome - I'll be hanging around on #marcomm Wednesday
+and Thursday while I look at this, anyone else interested, come by
+and brainstorm, check out what's been written and do a crit, make
+screenshots we can add...
+
+Cheers!
+
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+It's time to put everything together the marcomm team is supposed to
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+posting it here tomorrow night. If you have any free time at all, to
+write, read, proofread, test and critique the stuff we put together,
+this is when we really need you!
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+Cheers,
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+during the LinuxTag exhibition in Berlin, Oliver (obgr) and me took
+the time to briefly discuss what should be done for the RC and final
+release.
+
+For RC, no big change on the Web site: we only remove the red warnings
+and replace those with a RC-focused message. I leave it to anyone here
+to write this message and submit it for inclusion.
+
+For finale release... We have 15 days left and of course, this is very
+short a frame for that. But we can do it focusing on the right thing.
+
+ * NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the
+product - this section does not exist already, although you will find
+equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product page. Oliver
+and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5 pages:
+ - presentation home, main message being, &quot;this is a Linux system for people&quot;
+ - focus page for users (what do they have useful for them in this,
+what benefits)
+ - focus page for developers (same)
+ - focus page for contributors (same)
+ - focus page for businesses (same)
+ - focus page on technical specs, requirements
+
+ * NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will
+refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided,
+as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.
+
+ * NEED: redesign slightly the home page for the release day and the
+following days. What will happen anyway on the home page:
+ - project announcement content will be moved to a distinct page,
+under the /about section
+ - on release day, about only a page-wide home screen picture,
+linking to the presentation page will be there + news references
+ - on following days, usual news section + contacts will be re-added
+
+ * NEED: message to spread (blog, forum, news sites, etc.) according to audience
+
+ * NICE TO HAVE: a thank you page, for all contributors to this very release
+ - needed: someone to mail all project list and collect name of
+people that accept to be listed there
+ - needed: someone (design) to propose a design to use these names
+(default solution will be to have a special page listing everyone)
+
+ * NICE TO HAVE: updated global navigation (top nav bar on www, that
+should be spread later to other parts of the website). I know I posted
+something about it months ago, but did not finish my mockups about it.
+This is of course still open.
+
+ * NICE TO HAVE: redesigned contribution how to page - from
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=contribute">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=contribute</A>
+
+ * finally, for each of the above things, we need someone in charge;
+that means, someone that can take it, deliver a quick prototype,
+implement it and provide for inclusion and translation within the
+coming 15 days (and coordinate with who is needed for that). We might
+post a bug for each of these to assign it to the person in charge.
+
+As for the actual contents (precise info, screenshots), you (the one
+taking this bit in charge) have to get in touch with packagers and
+collaborate with them.
+
+Additions, comments, advice, takers?
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 22:24, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> rda, tv and I will be working together on putting together a tutorial
+</I>&gt;<i> to explain mgaonline to mdv users changing over, so a basic
+</I>&gt;<i> user-centric not-too-technical explanation of the upgrade process.
+</I>
+I won't be online before Thursday afternoon about this.
+
+First thing is that anyone willing to help gets ones hands unto the
+mgaonline notifier and see how it behaves from a 2010.1, 2010.2
+Mandriva release (do this in a VM or on a machine with a backup, at
+this point).
+
+Second thing is to design a 1/2/3/4 story to guide a user into this
+process (from downloading/installing this new mgaonline package, down
+to actually upgrading the system).
+
+If you need help about setting this up, please ask on -dev
+mailing-list or channel.
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>Hi Romain,
+
+Excuse fast top-post please! I'll check through this list along with
+other stuff we've talked about, and get started on it all tomorrow
+night.
+
+See you Thursday on irc.
+
+Cheers,
+
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> during the LinuxTag exhibition in Berlin, Oliver (obgr) and me took
+</I>&gt;<i> the time to briefly discuss what should be done for the RC and final
+</I>&gt;<i> release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For RC, no big change on the Web site: we only remove the red
+</I>&gt;<i> warnings and replace those with a RC-focused message. I leave it to
+</I>&gt;<i> anyone here to write this message and submit it for inclusion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For finale release... We have 15 days left and of course, this is
+</I>&gt;<i> very short a frame for that. But we can do it focusing on the right
+</I>&gt;<i> thing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the
+</I>&gt;<i> product - this section does not exist already, although you will
+</I>&gt;<i> find equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product
+</I>&gt;<i> page. Oliver and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5
+</I>&gt;<i> pages:
+</I>&gt;<i> - presentation home, main message being, &quot;this is a Linux system
+</I>&gt;<i> for people&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> - focus page for users (what do they have useful for them in this,
+</I>&gt;<i> what benefits)
+</I>&gt;<i> - focus page for developers (same)
+</I>&gt;<i> - focus page for contributors (same)
+</I>&gt;<i> - focus page for businesses (same)
+</I>&gt;<i> - focus page on technical specs, requirements
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will
+</I>&gt;<i> refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be
+</I>&gt;<i> provided, as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * NEED: redesign slightly the home page for the release day and the
+</I>&gt;<i> following days. What will happen anyway on the home page:
+</I>&gt;<i> - project announcement content will be moved to a distinct page,
+</I>&gt;<i> under the /about section
+</I>&gt;<i> - on release day, about only a page-wide home screen picture,
+</I>&gt;<i> linking to the presentation page will be there + news references
+</I>&gt;<i> - on following days, usual news section + contacts will be
+</I>&gt;<i> re-added
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * NEED: message to spread (blog, forum, news sites, etc.)
+</I>&gt;<i> according to audience
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * NICE TO HAVE: a thank you page, for all contributors to this
+</I>&gt;<i> very release
+</I>&gt;<i> - needed: someone to mail all project list and collect name of
+</I>&gt;<i> people that accept to be listed there
+</I>&gt;<i> - needed: someone (design) to propose a design to use these names
+</I>&gt;<i> (default solution will be to have a special page listing everyone)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * NICE TO HAVE: updated global navigation (top nav bar on www, that
+</I>&gt;<i> should be spread later to other parts of the website). I know I
+</I>&gt;<i> posted something about it months ago, but did not finish my mockups
+</I>&gt;<i> about it. This is of course still open.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * NICE TO HAVE: redesigned contribution how to page - from
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=contribute">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=contribute</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * finally, for each of the above things, we need someone in charge;
+</I>&gt;<i> that means, someone that can take it, deliver a quick prototype,
+</I>&gt;<i> implement it and provide for inclusion and translation within the
+</I>&gt;<i> coming 15 days (and coordinate with who is needed for that). We
+</I>&gt;<i> might post a bug for each of these to assign it to the person in
+</I>&gt;<i> charge.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As for the actual contents (precise info, screenshots), you (the one
+</I>&gt;<i> taking this bit in charge) have to get in touch with packagers and
+</I>&gt;<i> collaborate with them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Additions, comments, advice, takers?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+Here's the promised update to the task list. This list is also going
+up on the wiki here:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#what_s_hot_current_work">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#what_s_hot_current_work</A>
+
+Please check it, and let us know what you can take on. I've put my
+name against some of the things, but since we only have about 2 weeks
+to complete this stuff, the more people pitch in, the better.
+
+Numero Uno, absolutely must be done:
+
+ - Build a visual brand for Mageia
+
+This means: nail down a colour palette (even if it's an interim one)
+and bring the artwork/design of the install and the distro (all the
+mageia-specific parts), the website and any posters/kakemoni/whatever
+into line with each other as far as possible. We can certainly
+achieve this in 2 weeks if we jump all over it.
+
+The artwork team is on board with a fair bit of this - what we need
+now is more eyes, to look at the suggestions and weigh in with
+*constructive* criticism - &quot;I don't like it&quot; isn't helpful, any more
+than &quot;It doesn't work&quot;; we need to know what to do about it. Is it
+the balance of the design that needs changing? To what? Is it the
+colours that aren't appealing? What would look better? What does
+work? Why?
+
+Remember: we need to be *visible*, we need to be *identifiable* in
+the great distro maelstrom, and we need to express who we are as well
+as possible. Are we edgy? Comfortable? Out there? welcoming? chintzy?
+the community decides, and that's you, so speak up.
+
+Who: I'm running with this one for the present, but please take a look
+as we progress.
+
+Next, absolutely must be done, from Romain's list:
+
+1: A presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the product.
+
+The suggestion at present is that we have a minimalist, focused
+layout with around 5 sub-pages linked from the presentation page:
+ - presentation home, main message being, &quot;this is a Linux system
+ for people&quot;
+ - focus page for users (what do they have useful for them in this,
+what benefits)
+ - focus page for developers (same)
+ - focus page for contributors (same)
+ - focus page for businesses (same)
+ - focus page on technical specs, requirements
+
+We need to get input from the devs and other contributors on what the
+benefits are for them; and we need to get hold of the specs and
+requirements for that page.
+
+Who: not assigned yet.
+
+Who: unassigned at the moment. Anyone up to help with this?
+
+2: Redesign the download section (to which the section above will
+refer).
+
+For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided, as
+these influence quite a lot how we will present things. However, we
+can do quite a lot of design with placeholders, so that isn't a
+requirement to get started.
+
+We need this to be ready early so the i18n teams can do their thing.
+Ideally we want the EN text finalised by 25-05-11 - that's 8 days
+away.
+
+Who: not assigned yet.
+
+3: Redesign the home page of mageia.org - special look for release
+day and a few days afterwards.
+
+What will happen anyway on the home page:
+ - project announcement content will be moved to a distinct page,
+under the /about section
+ - on release day, about only a page-wide home screen picture,
+linking to the presentation page will be there + news references
+ - on following days, usual news section + contacts will be re-added
+
+This will be mostly artwork/design, with not a whole lot of text, so
+the marcomm part should be quick. Hopefully we'll have something by
+way of a design coming out of Task Numero Uno (visual brand - I know
+it's a ways up 8-)), in plenty of time for the text to be added.
+
+We need this to be ready early so the i18n teams can do their thing.
+Ideally we want the EN text finalised by 26-05-11 - that's 9 days
+away.
+
+Who: not assigned yet.
+
+4: The message to spread (blog, forum, news sites, etc.) -
+varieties according to audience.
+
+Again we need to have this ready early so the i18n teams can do their
+thing. This needs to be ready earlier than any other text, and it's
+the most writing; if we could please all jump on this and have
+something ready by 23-05, that would be great.
+
+Who: not assigned yet.
+
+5. A thank you page, for all contributors to this very release
+
+(This is very important - our community works hard and makes good
+stuff, and by damn a pat on the back is deserved!)
+
+ - needed: someone to mail all project list and collect name of
+people that accept to be listed there
+ - needed: someone (design) to propose a design to use these names
+(default solution will be to have a special page listing everyone)
+
+A Thanks page linked from the presentation page in #1 and from the
+Release Day front page will work fine, if we get the design right.
+
+Who: not assigned yet.
+
+ * NICE TO HAVE: updated global navigation (top nav bar on www, that
+should be spread later to other parts of the website). I know I posted
+something about it months ago, but did not finish my mockups about it.
+This is of course still open.
+
+If we have time - let's take a look at this.
+
+ * NICE TO HAVE: redesigned contribution how to page - from
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=contribute">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=contribute</A>
+
+Again - if we have time.
+
+Any unassigned tasks, I'll work on as they come up, but we need
+contributors - now's your chance to have your words and ideas
+immortalised!
+
+Cheers,
+
+
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+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> Today's Topics:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist
+</I>&gt;<i> (Patricia Fraser)
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Heads-up - release stuff needs to be ready in 2 weeks
+</I>&gt;<i> (Patricia Fraser)
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Mageia 1 release, some tasks (Romain d'Alverny)
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. Re: mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist
+</I>&gt;<i> (Romain d'Alverny)
+</I>&gt;<i> 5. Re: Mageia 1 release, some tasks (Patricia Fraser)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 3
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 22:30:43 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Romain d'Alverny&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: Mageia marketing team discussion list
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;, Mageia Web team discussion list
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-webteam at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia 1 release, some tasks
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">BANLkTin7KCL9iMmW+xkFioWqQa6q4Nm7Lw at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...].
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> For finale release... We have 15 days left and of course, this is very
+</I>&gt;<i> short a frame for that. But we can do it focusing on the right thing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the
+</I>&gt;<i> product - this section does not exist already, although you will find
+</I>&gt;<i> equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product page. Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5 pages:
+</I>&gt;<i> - presentation home, main message being, &quot;this is a Linux system for
+</I>&gt;<i> people&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Please I would like to see it changed into &quot;It's all about the free to
+connect.&quot; Linux is difficult to explain to people. Linux is perceived as
+something for computer nerds.
+
+&gt;<i> - focus page for users (what do they have useful for them in this,
+</I>&gt;<i> what benefits)
+</I>&gt;<i> - focus page for developers (same)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Here you can tell it is a linux distribution
+
+&gt;<i> - focus page for contributors (same)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I> &gt;&gt;&gt; ...no comment at this moment
+
+&gt;<i> - focus page for businesses (same)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Here can we talk about social media, sharing knowledge, co-creating and the
+aspect
+of intelllectual property rights.
+
+&gt;<i> - focus page on technical specs, requirements
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> no comment at this moment
+</I>
+&gt;<i> * NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will
+</I>&gt;<i> refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided,
+</I>&gt;<i> as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>we need to show which package are in the default section [especially the
+[patentented] multimedia codecs], which is the user-functionality for a
+certain package. LibreOffice is for writing, presentations and making tables
+for presenting useful business data. We also need to have meta-packages.
+especialy the following fields need our attention:
+- multimedia on the web [codecs, HTML5, the possibility to record
+videostreams &lt;streamripper&gt;
+- social media &lt;TweetDesk&gt;
+- security &lt;privacy, anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-phising&gt;
+We need to cut the ISO-size as much as possible. The liveCD should have a
+full desktop environment on the screen within 30 seconds.
+[...]
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>greetz Zwikkle &gt;&gt; my comments on purposal Romain
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> product - this section does not exist already, although you will find
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product page. Oliver
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5 pages:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- presentation home, main message being, &quot;this is a Linux system for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please I would like to see it changed into &quot;It's all about the free to
+</I>&gt;<i> connect.&quot; Linux is difficult to explain to people. Linux is perceived as
+</I>&gt;<i> something for computer nerds.
+</I>
+That may not be necessarily the goal of Mageia 1 to change that
+though. We're 2 weeks into the final release, building up from scratch
+a release message
+
+Anyway, could you elaborate on the &quot;it's all about the free to
+connect&quot; thing? I don't get the idea/meaning.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- focus page for businesses (same)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here can we talk about social media, sharing knowledge, co-creating and the
+</I>&gt;<i> aspect of intelllectual property rights.
+</I>
+That's more for contributors than businesses.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We also need to have meta-packages.
+</I>&gt;<i> especialy the following fields need our attention:
+</I>&gt;<i> - multimedia on the web [codecs, HTML5, the possibility to record
+</I>&gt;<i> videostreams &lt;streamripper&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> - social media &lt;TweetDesk&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> - security &lt;privacy, anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-phising&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We need to cut the ISO-size as much as possible. The liveCD should have a
+</I>&gt;<i> full desktop environment on the screen within 30 seconds.
+</I>
+Although that's interesting, this is not the kind of need you assess
+13 days before the final release. File bugs for Mageia 2 if you like,
+but here it's not on the list for Mageia 1.
+
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+&gt;<i> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 23:56:53 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Romain d'Alverny&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: Mageia marketing team discussion list
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue
+</I>&gt;<i> 7; website - The average Mageia User
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">BANLkTimHO8YcYqxRM35NtEHtD17f0Qz5Gg at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 21:59, suikerstroop &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">suikerstroop at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ?* NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; product - this section does not exist already, although you will find
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product page. Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5 pages:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ?- presentation home, main message being, &quot;this is a Linux system for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; people&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please I would like to see it changed into &quot;It's all about the free to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; connect.&quot; Linux is difficult to explain to people. Linux is perceived as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; something for computer nerds.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That may not be necessarily the goal of Mageia 1 to change that
+</I>&gt;<i> though. We're 2 weeks into the final release, building up from scratch
+</I>&gt;<i> a release message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway, could you elaborate on the &quot;it's all about the free to
+</I>&gt;<i> connect&quot; thing? I don't get the idea/meaning.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I made a mistype, I do mean &quot;it's all about the freedom to connect.&quot; I
+</I>think Mageia should be about:
+- connecting &gt;&gt;&gt; social media
+- freedom &gt;&gt; co-creating
+- entertainment
+- usability
+- the (user) experience
+We have to broaden our user base. We
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ?- focus page for businesses (same)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Here can we talk about social media, sharing knowledge, co-creating and
+</I>&gt;<i> the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; aspect of intelllectual property rights.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's more for contributors than businesses.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ?* NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We also need to have meta-packages.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; especialy the following fields need our attention:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - multimedia on the web [codecs, HTML5, the possibility to record
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; videostreams &lt;streamripper&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - social media &lt;TweetDesk&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - security &lt;privacy, anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-phising&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We need to cut the ISO-size as much as possible. The liveCD should have a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; full desktop environment on the screen within 30 seconds.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Although that's interesting, this is not the kind of need you assess
+</I>&gt;<i> 13 days before the final release. File bugs for Mageia 2 if you like,
+</I>&gt;<i> but here it's not on the list for Mageia 1.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not a bug tester, programmer or professional software tester. But I
+</I>have tried many linux distributions. I was a great fan of Linux Mandrake, I
+like YAST in the old SUSE. My biggest complaint about all these
+distributions:
+- virtual desktops are great
+- slow loading of the desktop
+- bad support of patented multimedia codecs
+
+I thought and am thing now, Linux should be very quick operating system, low
+hardware requirements. Linux should be fun to use. Get things done easily,
+not difficult and frustating to use.
+
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+Greetz,
+
+Zwikkle
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+<PRE>I sent this to the list with the impress file attached but the list
+did not accept it (file too large).
+You can look at the PDF I put online:
+<A HREF="ftp://ftp.mandrivauser.de/magazin/Mageia_at_LinuxTag.pdf">ftp://ftp.mandrivauser.de/magazin/Mageia_at_LinuxTag.pdf</A>
+If you want the original slides (the LO Impress file) I can mail it to
+somebody directly.
+
+wobo
+
+---------- Forwarded message ----------
+From: Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+Date: 2011/5/19
+Subject: Mageia conference slides of Linuxtag
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
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+
+Hi,
+
+don't know if Anne sent them to you or if you could use them in any
+way. Here are the slides which were used for the conference Anne held
+at Linuxtag in Berlin.
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+&gt;<i> I sent this to the list with the impress file attached but the list
+</I>&gt;<i> did not accept it (file too large).
+</I>&gt;<i> You can look at the PDF I put online:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.mandrivauser.de/magazin/Mageia_at_LinuxTag.pdf">ftp://ftp.mandrivauser.de/magazin/Mageia_at_LinuxTag.pdf</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want the original slides (the LO Impress file) I can mail it
+</I>&gt;<i> to somebody directly.
+</I>
+Thanks for these!
+
+TeaAge has sent me the screenshots as they are now, so I'll be
+looking at the current colour scheme across the weekend - there'll be
+some colour mockups for people to look at by Sunday, so hopefully we
+can work out a way to get it all to hang together for the visual
+branding for the release.
+
+We can do more for Mageia 2 - this is just a start.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+I've put up some texts on the Sandbox here:
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+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#sandbox_topics">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#sandbox_topics</A>
+
+These have to be finalised ASAP so they can go to i18n. Please read,
+proofread, comment!
+
+Cheers,
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+i've created a proposal for installer screens, what do you think about them?
+
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#scenario_2_marcello_s_proposal">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#scenario_2_marcello_s_proposal</A>
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+
+i would use the keywords also in the launching and promoting phase, if some
+could create also some desktop backgrounds with them it will be great. Let me
+know
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+<PRE>hi all,
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+is it possible to fix this bug before release?
+
+
+ 'urpme --auto-orphans' message shouldn't be shown when using rpmdrake
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920</A>
+
+
+thank you
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
+
+
+PS= i'm adding also marketing team because it's related to a feature very
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+ <B>Anne nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>2011/5/24 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is it possible to fix this bug before release?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;'urpme --auto-orphans' message shouldn't be shown when using rpmdrake
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920</A>
+</I>
+
+no it will not. Todo list is already big enough
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> thank you
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcello
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS= i'm adding also marketing team because it's related to a feature very
+</I>&gt;<i> important for the product quality
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+Hi there,
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+thanks Marcello - and Patricia, for your proposals.
+
+I'm going to comment both and add three things that would need to be
+in these info screens (to add); then, both proposals could be merged,
+somehow. Articulation of types of people with the platform benefits:
+ * (addition) screen: a &quot;before we start, thank you for
+installing/using Mageia&quot; screen toward the user
+ * (add.) screen: a &quot;this is the result of people work, time and
+donations&quot; type-of screen - we won't have the &quot;thank you&quot; page
+directed to contributors (at least, not in the way we expected at
+first) but we need some kind of dedicated mention there (who did this
+and how)
+ * Mageia is a system for people, who stay in control (nothing hidden,
+privacy concerns, free software, huge library of software)
+ * for businesses: servers, desktops, appliances; secure, stable,
+large community support;
+ * for developers: full of technologies and tools to build desktop,
+server and Web applications;
+ * for contributors: it's a community-driven, Open Source project
+involved many different disciplines!
+ * for you: you tell us what you make with this and how we can make it
+better suit you
+ * (last screen, add.) a &quot;we hope Mageia will help you to put some
+magic in your life&quot; or something along this line that &quot;turns the
+table&quot; to the person in front of her device.
+
+I wouldn't focus on the &quot;no price&quot; bit as it leads to the &quot;no value&quot;
+one too easily (furthermore, there _is_ a price to pay, if only in
+attention/focus on &quot;what is an operating system&quot; and how to install
+it). Ah. And we have no &quot;brainstorming&quot; place yet - so better not
+mention it.
+
+A last remark, regarding your proposal Marcello, where you use Mageia
+as an adjective. As a name/brand, Mageia (and Linux too, btw) is
+&quot;something&quot;, a name, not a verb/action, neither an adjective - and
+should thus not be used like this (and not encouraged to be used as
+such).
+
+Why? Not necessarily because that's bad (some people tend to think
+this, although that's as well a sign of recognition), but because
+being an adjective or a verb, it makes it something describing
+something specific (a status or an action).
+
+Mageia is project and a versatile product and a community - that's
+already too much for a single name (and we will have time to fix that
+later) - but that's precisely something too big (and too young) to
+push it toward a status or an action. So, no &quot;Be Mageia&quot; please. :-)
+
+
+But again, I am afraid we may be quite late here in that I'm not sure
+if we will find time to artwork to produce something there before the
+end of this week. Nonetheless, this work will still be valid for
+further releases :-p
+
+Who takes it further?
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#scenario_2_marcello_s_proposal">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#scenario_2_marcello_s_proposal</A>
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+What about now we try to achieve something that's halfway between
+yours and mine? You go first!
+
+Cheers,
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+Now including the devs focus and specs info, thanks misc.
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+I'll take a look at making additions/updates/merges in around half an
+hour - Marcello, maybe you could have a go first, if you have time!
+
+We can have something updated today, and if you're happy with it,
+hopefully it'll be ready for Artwork.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Patricia.
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>
+hi patricia
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll take a look at making additions/updates/merges in around half an
+</I>&gt;<i> hour - Marcello, maybe you could have a go first, if you have time!
+</I>
+i can't, i've not enough time... i'll let the work to you, guys (and girls),
+i'm sure will end up with a great serie of installer screens : )
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We can have something updated today, and if you're happy with it,
+</I>&gt;<i> hopefully it'll be ready for Artwork.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Patricia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+hope so.
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>Am Dienstag 24 Mai 2011, 17:52:02 schrieb Marcello Anni:
+&gt;<i> hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i've created a proposal for installer screens, what do you think about
+</I>&gt;<i> them?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#scenario_2_marcello_s">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#scenario_2_marcello_s</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> _proposal
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i would use the keywords also in the launching and promoting phase, if some
+</I>&gt;<i> could create also some desktop backgrounds with them it will be great. Let
+</I>&gt;<i> me know
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I've tried to manipulate some existing images from AlexN and fill them with
+text. I've tried to transfer the ideas of marketing team to match the layout
+(a few items per page). The text is of course changable. So please, send your
+ideas.
+
+<A HREF="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/x6KbJvTcjuqYPSayr23uZ8WFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/x6KbJvTcjuqYPSayr23uZ8WFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink</A>
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+wTnVT61470ftQkywZ78WFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink
+<A HREF="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ADXkh9lnp1xRVH0H07aWccWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ADXkh9lnp1xRVH0H07aWccWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink</A>
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+Thorsten
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+<PRE>Hi Thorsten,
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+&gt;<i> I've tried to manipulate some existing images from AlexN and fill
+</I>&gt;<i> them with text. I've tried to transfer the ideas of marketing team
+</I>&gt;<i> to match the layout (a few items per page). The text is of course
+</I>&gt;<i> changable. So please, send your ideas.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ADXkh9lnp1xRVH0H07aWccWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ADXkh9lnp1xRVH0H07aWccWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink</A>
+</I>
+This one is the odd one out - it's all green!
+
+The other two are fine, and we'll have around 7 screens in the
+end - maybe you can alternate the two pictures?
+
+We'll have text ready for you later tonight.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE>Am Dienstag 24 Mai 2011, 21:53:13 schrieb Patricia Fraser:
+&gt;<i> Hi Thorsten,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I've tried to manipulate some existing images from AlexN and fill
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; them with text. I've tried to transfer the ideas of marketing team
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to match the layout (a few items per page). The text is of course
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; changable. So please, send your ideas.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ADXkh9lnp1xRVH0H07aWccWFIzFZ2BaC21X">https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ADXkh9lnp1xRVH0H07aWccWFIzFZ2BaC21X</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; F10gWwzE?feat=directlink
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This one is the odd one out - it's all green!
+</I>
+I can color the CD in a pastel blue, for example.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The other two are fine, and we'll have around 7 screens in the
+</I>&gt;<i> end - maybe you can alternate the two pictures?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We'll have text ready for you later tonight.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>
+Just to let you know what is possible: I can only use these jpgs from his
+flickr-profile, add some text, cut and copy things together.
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/</A>
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+Greetings
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+<PRE>Hi Thorsten,
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+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ADXkh9lnp1xRVH0H07aWccWFIzFZ2BaC21X">https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ADXkh9lnp1xRVH0H07aWccWFIzFZ2BaC21X</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; F10gWwzE?feat=directlink
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This one is the odd one out - it's all green!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can color the CD in a pastel blue, for example.
+</I>
+That'd be fine - just so the colours sort of hang together with the
+overall scheme.
+
+&gt;<i> Just to let you know what is possible: I can only use these jpgs
+</I>&gt;<i> from his flickr-profile, add some text, cut and copy things
+</I>&gt;<i> together. <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/</A>
+</I>
+Yes - you're between a rock and a hard place, and I'm appreciating
+your work like crazy! Thanks so much for putting in all this effort -
+you artwork folks rock.
+
+The 8 screens-worth of text is up on the marketing sandbox - unless
+someone hates it, that's the text ready.
+
+If you *do* hate it, speak up now - it needs to go to the i18n people
+tomorrow.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+<PRE>In case you missed it, macxi has done a very nice poster which shows
+the installation process in a simple graphic way.
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+And the best of it all: he did all the text in inkscape, so with the
+svg file it is easy to translate (using the built-in xml-editor),
+maintain, make small changes, etc. Furthermore, exporting as EPS gives
+a scalable image to be printed in any size.
+I suggest to have all such things (posters, cd-labels, etc.) in this
+format for easy handling.
+
+Forum post (including the URL of the svg file):
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=303&amp;p=2006#p2006">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=303&amp;p=2006#p2006</A>
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+&gt;<i> In case you missed it, macxi has done a very nice poster which shows
+</I>&gt;<i> the installation process in a simple graphic way.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And the best of it all: he did all the text in inkscape, so with the
+</I>&gt;<i> svg file it is easy to translate (using the built-in xml-editor),
+</I>&gt;<i> maintain, make small changes, etc. Furthermore, exporting as EPS gives
+</I>&gt;<i> a scalable image to be printed in any size.
+</I>&gt;<i> I suggest to have all such things (posters, cd-labels, etc.) in this
+</I>&gt;<i> format for easy handling.
+</I>
+This is brilliant, and I absolutely agree about Inkscape - it's a great
+thing, and keeps the images and text separate.
+
+Thanks for letting us know!
+
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+The release approach and I think usefull to prepare the announcement who
+will be made on our website and on others informations sites.
+
+I just begin the redaction of a news on the french site
+<A HREF="http://linuxfr.org/">http://linuxfr.org/</A> (not published yet) and I suppose others people will
+do the same for slashdot or other geek-info-website in their language
+
+A good solution will be to join our effort and redact one version we can
+adapt to our own context (being less or more technical, adding or not
+screenshot, etc)
+
+My skills in redaction are basics so I will need the help of this team
+(I can manage french translations)
+
+
+Thanks by advance for your help
+
+Marianne
+
+PS : please excuse my poor english
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> The release approach and I think usefull to prepare the
+</I>&gt;<i> announcement who will be made on our website and on others
+</I>&gt;<i> informations sites.
+</I>
+Absolutely - it's next on my list too.
+
+&gt;<i> I just begin the redaction of a news on the french site
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://linuxfr.org/">http://linuxfr.org/</A> (not published yet) and I suppose others people
+</I>&gt;<i> will do the same for slashdot or other geek-info-website in their
+</I>&gt;<i> language
+</I>
+We will be putting our work up on the marcomm sandbox on the wiki,
+here:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox</A>
+
+If you have a wiki login, maybe you could put your text up there, and
+we can work on a common text together? I'll work in English, but I'll
+understand your French okay.
+
+&gt;<i> My skills in redaction are basics so I will need the help of this
+</I>&gt;<i> team (I can manage french translations)
+</I>
+That's just fine - ideas are the important bit! Proofreading and
+editing, I can do.
+
+Cheers,
+
+
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+I'm messing about with this list of yours, Juergen, on the marcomm
+sandbox - getting something together for the announcement.
+
+Need help, folks - this is a situation where many eyes would be
+really handy!
+
+Cheers,
+
+&gt;<i> Evidently, I had thought about some items to go into such a list:
+</I>&gt;<i> there is a short list at the end of this message - far from
+</I>&gt;<i> exhaustive and a very personal view, seen from the kind of user I
+</I>&gt;<i> represent.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My items do not cover the ground, but the list should be kept
+</I>&gt;<i> short: there is need to consider arguments to attract canditate
+</I>&gt;<i> users coming from windows, maybe also the &quot;hugging&quot; aspect proposed
+</I>&gt;<i> by Romain, but I do not feel competetent in that domain. Arguments
+</I>&gt;<i> should fit into some kind of a &quot;template&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I like the examples of graphical competence that pop up everywhere
+</I>&gt;<i> in Mageia: if such a list is really implemented and is short, how
+</I>&gt;<i> about adding a kind of line-drawing sketch to the presentation of
+</I>&gt;<i> each argument (style: the bug that appears/appeared during the
+</I>&gt;<i> install sequence) - that might help to take away the taste of &quot;oh,
+</I>&gt;<i> self-promotion&quot; and make people laugh.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Apropos hugging aspect: I do not think that such a list should
+</I>&gt;<i> primarily address emotional aspects, it should address the
+</I>&gt;<i> potential user who - and that is at the intellectual level -
+</I>&gt;<i> realizes that there are alternatives, and starts scratching his
+</I>&gt;<i> head.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Quality:
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia is promising to be as solid and perfect as Mandriva at the
+</I>&gt;<i> best of its times (Mandriva heritage)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Language support:
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia wants to provide a box that perfectly &quot;speaks&quot; many
+</I>&gt;<i> languages - its structure and its anchor in the user community have
+</I>&gt;<i> already now produced excellent results (Mandriva heritage +
+</I>&gt;<i> enhancement)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Multi-profile support:
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia offers and maintains application that address the needs of a
+</I>&gt;<i> large variety of user communities - with applications ranging from
+</I>&gt;<i> game-playing and music-listening to scientific and engineering
+</I>&gt;<i> applications (Mandriva heritage)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Leading-edge / stability equilibrium:
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;text needed to go in here - delicate, it touches the rolling
+</I>&gt;<i> release
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> User &lt;-&gt; maintainer interaction:
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;text needed to go in here&gt; (Mageia community concept)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Friendly human side: (quoting Romain)
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;text needed to go in here&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry to be so late with my reply - I had not created a filter for
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-marketing and thunderbird had put away all your messages as
+</I>&gt;<i> junk (- _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+I'm ready for some help, if you've got some time!
+
+&gt;<i> The release approach and I think usefull to prepare the
+</I>&gt;<i> announcement who will be made on our website and on others
+</I>&gt;<i> informations sites.
+</I>
+I have a beginning up here:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#announcement">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#announcement</A>
+
+If you could take a look, maybe log onto the wiki and add your ideas,
+we could put the draft announcement text together so the council can
+take a look at it tomorrow?
+
+Cheers,
+
+PS: Everyone's welcome to come help with this - it's all of us
+speaking, after all!
+
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi Marianne,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm ready for some help, if you've got some time!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The release approach and I think usefull to prepare the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; announcement who will be made on our website and on others
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; informations sites.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a beginning up here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#announcement">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#announcement</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you could take a look, maybe log onto the wiki and add your ideas,
+</I>&gt;<i> we could put the draft announcement text together so the council can
+</I>&gt;<i> take a look at it tomorrow?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: Everyone's welcome to come help with this - it's all of us
+</I>&gt;<i> speaking, after all!
+</I>
+
+i gave my proposals, i hope you will appreciate them.
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+PS= when the announcement will be published?
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+&gt;<i> i gave my proposals, i hope you will appreciate them.
+</I>
+Thanks! I think we should definitely include your Mageia is Open
+point, and I'll look at the others to see what we might merge.
+
+Anyone else got ideas for this?
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+Cheers,
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+Webteam desperately needs some help from you!
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+What we do need is some screenshots from Mageia, to be more exactly
+here are the specifications:
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+Format: png 4/3 and 16/9
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+Screens are needed of:
+- boot screen
+- login screen
+- desktop (empty) for KDE, GNOME and
+- anything else you find interesting for future Mageia users.
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+It would be great if you could put them online somewhere (picasa,
+flickr,...) and send us the links to the mailing lists.
+
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+Waiting for them desparately in the remaining days until release,
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+On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 21:04, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I'm messing about with this list of yours, Juergen, on the marcomm
+</I>&gt;<i> sandbox - getting something together for the announcement.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Need help, folks - this is a situation where many eyes would be
+</I>&gt;<i> really handy!
+</I>
+Checking it out and thinking about it while doing some Web stuff.
+
+This list is cool and can be put in the release pages but it does not
+exactly, precisely cover this question: what discrete stuff is
+different with this Mageia 1 distribution? (as in: what's in it that
+there's not in an other distribution?); technical/tool/experience.
+
+If the answer is: nothing, then, what is different with the project?
+Or still why chooose it? (that can be the Mageia promise, but that's
+more difficult to push). It's not to have only these exclusive bits
+showing up on the product page; but it's to have them nonetheless +
+all the rest.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> I like the examples of graphical competence that pop up everywhere
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in Mageia: if such a list is really implemented and is short, how
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> about adding a kind of line-drawing sketch to the presentation of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> each argument (style: the bug that appears/appeared during the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> install sequence) - that might help to take away the taste of &quot;oh,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> self-promotion&quot; and make people laugh.
+</I>
+Not sure I see/understand this. Have a sketch/example?
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Apropos hugging aspect: I do not think that such a list should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> primarily address emotional aspects, it should address the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> potential user who - and that is at the intellectual level -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> realizes that there are alternatives, and starts scratching his
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> head.
+</I>
+Yep, definitely. That's the: multiplicity/difference is good, because
+it encourages exploration and learning; so embrace it.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Quality:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia is promising to be as solid and perfect as Mandriva at the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> best of its times (Mandriva heritage)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Language support:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia wants to provide a box that perfectly &quot;speaks&quot; many
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> languages - its structure and its anchor in the user community have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> already now produced excellent results (Mandriva heritage +
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> enhancement)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Multi-profile support:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia offers and maintains application that address the needs of a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> large variety of user communities - with applications ranging from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> game-playing and music-listening to scientific and engineering
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> applications (Mandriva heritage)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Leading-edge / stability equilibrium:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;text needed to go in here - delicate, it touches the rolling
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> discussion&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> User &lt;-&gt; maintainer interaction:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;text needed to go in here&gt; (Mageia community concept)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Friendly human side: (quoting Romain)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;text needed to go in here&gt;
+</I>
+Romain
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+<PRE>Well, what does Mageia have what others do not have?
+
+1. Technically, nothing. We could just copy the Mandriva marketing
+phrases about excellent hardware recognition, ease of use, draktools,
+etc.
+
+2. Looks: well, pls artwork-team, don't take it personally, but the
+look is the very last item I would use to advertize the product. It is
+a technical product, which should be described by its technical
+features, not by its looks (everybody can make Ubuntu look like Mageia
+and vice versa). Back to #1.
+
+What we have other than most distributions in our area: the fact that
+it is community based with all related implications. The organisation,
+the fact that no commercial management can dictate the way Mageia will
+take - the opportunity for the user to be more integrated in the
+future of this distribution than anywhere else.
+
+Of course this will only get the attention of people who care for
+these points. Others, like those who buy their car on the color of the
+carpeting, must be attracted by nice artwork. So, here we really have
+the difference between targets.
+
+--
+wobo
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+ <B>Anne nicolas</B>
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+&gt;<i> Well, what does Mageia have what others do not have?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Technically, nothing. We could just copy the Mandriva marketing
+</I>&gt;<i> phrases about excellent hardware recognition, ease of use, draktools,
+</I>&gt;<i> etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Looks: well, pls artwork-team, don't take it personally, but the
+</I>&gt;<i> look is the very last item I would use to advertize the product. It is
+</I>&gt;<i> a technical product, which should be described by its technical
+</I>&gt;<i> features, not by its looks (everybody can make Ubuntu look like Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> and vice versa). Back to #1.
+</I>
+I do not agree :) *you* do not think it's important but be carefull
+with generalization. Also it can be about theme and general
+integration. For example GTK apps under KDE and the contrary
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What we have other than most distributions in our area: the fact that
+</I>&gt;<i> it is community based with all related implications. The organisation,
+</I>&gt;<i> the fact that no commercial management can dictate the way Mageia will
+</I>&gt;<i> take - the opportunity for the user to be more integrated in the
+</I>&gt;<i> future of this distribution than anywhere else.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course this will only get the attention of people who care for
+</I>&gt;<i> these points. Others, like those who buy their car on the color of the
+</I>&gt;<i> carpeting, must be attracted by nice artwork. So, here we really have
+</I>&gt;<i> the difference between targets.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+
+--
+Anne
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+<PRE>2011/5/30 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 2011/5/30 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, what does Mageia have what others do not have?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. Technically, nothing. We could just copy the Mandriva marketing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> phrases about excellent hardware recognition, ease of use, draktools,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. Looks: well, pls artwork-team, don't take it personally, but the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> look is the very last item I would use to advertize the product. It is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a technical product, which should be described by its technical
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> features, not by its looks (everybody can make Ubuntu look like Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and vice versa). Back to #1.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I do not agree :) *you* do not think it's important but be carefull
+</I>&gt;<i> with generalization.
+</I>
+See the last paragraph of my mail - of course I am aware of different
+target groups :)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> What we have other than most distributions in our area: the fact that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it is community based with all related implications. The organisation,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the fact that no commercial management can dictate the way Mageia will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> take - the opportunity for the user to be more integrated in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> future of this distribution than anywhere else.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Of course this will only get the attention of people who care for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> these points. Others, like those who buy their car on the color of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> carpeting, must be attracted by nice artwork. So, here we really have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the difference between targets.
+</I>
+--
+wobo
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+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; What we have other than most distributions in our area: the fact
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; that it is community based with all related implications. The
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; organisation, the fact that no commercial management can dictate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the way Mageia will take - the opportunity for the user to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; more integrated in the future of this distribution than anywhere
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; else.
+</I>
+I'm pinching this Wobo - thanks!
+
+
+
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; What we have other than most distributions in our area: the fact
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; that it is community based with all related implications. The
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; organisation, the fact that no commercial management can dictate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the way Mageia will take - the opportunity for the user to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; more integrated in the future of this distribution than anywhere
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; else.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm pinching this Wobo - thanks!
+</I>
+(I'm not playing the devil's advocate, just trying to push it further)
+
+a) How can we make this compare to:
+ - Debian
+ - FreeBSD
+
+(Fedora, Ubuntu are known to have a mixed community/corporate
+governance) The goal is not yet to know what is better, but to draw a
+map.
+
+b) How can we make this a clear benefit?
+
+c) And how can we make this an obvious benefit for:
+ - an existing Linux user;
+ - a non-Linux user?
+
+:<i>-p
+</I>
+Romain
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+
+&gt;<i> (I'm not playing the devil's advocate, just trying to push it
+</I>&gt;<i> further)
+</I>
+That's just what I need! a good solid shove on a Monday! 8-)
+
+&gt;<i> a) How can we make this compare to:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Debian
+</I>&gt;<i> - FreeBSD
+</I>
+Balance? The personal is equally important with the technical?
+
+(Debian prides themselves on being merit-driven, but they manage to
+be very exclusive - otherwise why would there be a need for
+Debian-Women...)
+
+Openness to contribution (maybe not so much)?
+
+Responsibility? We're all responsible for making it good?
+
+&gt;<i> (Fedora, Ubuntu are known to have a mixed community/corporate
+</I>&gt;<i> governance) The goal is not yet to know what is better, but to draw
+</I>&gt;<i> a map.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> b) How can we make this a clear benefit?
+</I>
+I'd have a go if I understood better. What was the motivation of the
+Founders, aside from wriggling out from under corporate governance?
+What did they see in the future?
+
+&gt;<i> c) And how can we make this an obvious benefit for:
+</I>&gt;<i> - an existing Linux user;
+</I>&gt;<i> - a non-Linux user?
+</I>
+For a non-Linux user, the welcome part will do it - just like it did
+for Ubuntu. &quot;You're important to us&quot;.
+
+8-) For an existing Linux user, it might be &quot;You're important to us,
+so long as you're willing to unlearn some bad habits.&quot;
+
+Feedback/input needed!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+ma mei 30 21:38:18 CEST 2011
+GNU/Linux 1997-2010 #283226 counter.li.org
+andromeda up 1 hour(s), 48 min.
+kernel 2.6.33.7-desktop-2mnb
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 20:21, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; What we have other than most distributions in our area: the fact
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; that it is community based with all related implications. The
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; organisation, the fact that no commercial management can dictate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the way Mageia will take - the opportunity for the user to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; more integrated in the future of this distribution than anywhere
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; else.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm pinching this Wobo - thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (I'm not playing the devil's advocate, just trying to push it further)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> a) How can we make this compare to:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Debian
+</I>&gt;<i> - FreeBSD
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+they don't have the mageia control center : )
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> b) How can we make this a clear benefit?
+</I>
+we can pute the focus on KDE and on our openess to the new technologies
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> c) And how can we make this an obvious benefit for:
+</I>&gt;<i> - an existing Linux user;
+</I>
+our attitidues are:
+
+- openess to new ideas
+- listen to the users
+- get the maximum from kde4.
+
+all the distros do (in part) these tasks, but we have to communicate better
+then them our strenghts
+
+&gt;<i> - a non-Linux user?
+</I>
+for a non-linux user we don't have to compare distros, we only have to show
+our apps and tools... we must show amarok, k3b, dolphin, plasma, nepomuk and
+so on... we must show them at the work, as non-linux users ignore completely
+what apps do we use and how powerful are them
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> :-p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>Hi there!
+
+Webteam desperately needs some help from you!
+
+What we do need is some screenshots from Mageia, to be more exactly
+here are the specifications:
+
+Format: png 4/3 and 16/9
+
+Screens are needed of:
+- boot screen
+- login screen
+- desktop (empty) for KDE, GNOME and
+- anything else you find interesting for future Mageia users.
+
+It would be great if you could put them online somewhere (picasa,
+flickr,...) and send us the links to the mailing lists.
+
+Waiting for them desparately in the remaining days until release,
+
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000363.html">[Mageia-marketing] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="363">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000364.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it possible to fix before release the bug 920?
+</A><A NAME="364">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000370.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000381.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000391.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000333.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="333">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000335.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="335">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000337.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="337">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000340.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="340">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000342.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="342">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000344.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="344">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000345.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="345">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000347.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="347">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000358.html">[Mageia-marketing] Slides of Mageia conference at Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000375.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation poster
+</A><A NAME="375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000385.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000387.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000392.html">[Mageia-marketing] Screenshots for the homepage at release time
+</A><A NAME="392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000383.html">[Mageia-marketing] Screenshots for the homepage at release time
+</A><A NAME="383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000361.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="361">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000336.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="336">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000349.html">[Mageia-marketing] mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist
+</A><A NAME="349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000350.html">[Mageia-marketing] Heads-up - release stuff needs to be ready in 2 weeks
+</A><A NAME="350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000353.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 1 release, some tasks
+</A><A NAME="353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000354.html">[Mageia-marketing] Tasks for Mageia 1 release, marketing/artwork
+</A><A NAME="354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000359.html">[Mageia-marketing] Slides of Mageia conference at Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000362.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release day texts - please check
+</A><A NAME="362">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000367.html">[Mageia-marketing] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000368.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates to focus pages
+</A><A NAME="368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000369.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000372.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000374.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000376.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation poster
+</A><A NAME="376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000378.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000379.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000380.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000382.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000388.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000390.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000346.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="346">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000371.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000373.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000377.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marianne Lombard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000331.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000332.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="332">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000334.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="334">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000338.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="338">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000339.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="339">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000341.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="341">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000351.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 1 release, some tasks
+</A><A NAME="351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000352.html">[Mageia-marketing] mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist
+</A><A NAME="352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000356.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7; website - The average Mageia User
+</A><A NAME="356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000366.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="366">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000384.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000389.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000343.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="343">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000365.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it possible to fix before release the bug 920?
+</A><A NAME="365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000386.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000348.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4; CD design of Mageia CD
+</A><A NAME="348">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000355.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7; website - The average Mageia User
+</A><A NAME="355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000357.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 8; The new Mageia user - my comments explained
+</A><A NAME="357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue May 31 15:13:00 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 6 18:24:05 CEST 2011</i>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
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+ <ul>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu May 5 19:24:13 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue May 31 15:13:00 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 61<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000331.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000332.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="332">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000333.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="333">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000334.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="334">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000335.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="335">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000336.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="336">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000337.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="337">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000338.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="338">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000339.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="339">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000340.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="340">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000341.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="341">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000342.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="342">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000343.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="343">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000344.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="344">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000345.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="345">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000346.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="346">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000347.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="347">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000348.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4; CD design of Mageia CD
+</A><A NAME="348">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000361.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="361">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000349.html">[Mageia-marketing] mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist
+</A><A NAME="349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000350.html">[Mageia-marketing] Heads-up - release stuff needs to be ready in 2 weeks
+</A><A NAME="350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000351.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 1 release, some tasks
+</A><A NAME="351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000352.html">[Mageia-marketing] mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist
+</A><A NAME="352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000353.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 1 release, some tasks
+</A><A NAME="353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000354.html">[Mageia-marketing] Tasks for Mageia 1 release, marketing/artwork
+</A><A NAME="354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000355.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7; website - The average Mageia User
+</A><A NAME="355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000356.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7; website - The average Mageia User
+</A><A NAME="356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000357.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 8; The new Mageia user - my comments explained
+</A><A NAME="357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000358.html">[Mageia-marketing] Slides of Mageia conference at Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000359.html">[Mageia-marketing] Slides of Mageia conference at Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000362.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release day texts - please check
+</A><A NAME="362">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000363.html">[Mageia-marketing] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="363">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000364.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it possible to fix before release the bug 920?
+</A><A NAME="364">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000365.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it possible to fix before release the bug 920?
+</A><A NAME="365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000366.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="366">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000367.html">[Mageia-marketing] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000368.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates to focus pages
+</A><A NAME="368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000369.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000370.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000371.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000372.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000373.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000374.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000375.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation poster
+</A><A NAME="375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000376.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation poster
+</A><A NAME="376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000377.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marianne Lombard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000378.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000379.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000380.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000381.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000382.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000392.html">[Mageia-marketing] Screenshots for the homepage at release time
+</A><A NAME="392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000383.html">[Mageia-marketing] Screenshots for the homepage at release time
+</A><A NAME="383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000384.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000385.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000386.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000387.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000388.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000389.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000390.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000391.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue May 31 15:13:00 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 6 18:24:05 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
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+ <h1>May 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu May 5 19:24:13 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue May 31 15:13:00 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 61<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000331.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000333.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="333">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000334.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="334">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000335.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="335">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000336.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="336">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000337.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="337">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000338.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="338">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000339.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="339">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000340.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="340">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000341.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="341">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000342.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="342">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000343.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="343">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000344.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="344">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000345.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="345">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000347.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="347">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000366.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="366">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000370.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000371.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000373.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000369.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000372.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000374.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000350.html">[Mageia-marketing] Heads-up - release stuff needs to be ready in 2 weeks
+</A><A NAME="350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000375.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation poster
+</A><A NAME="375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000376.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation poster
+</A><A NAME="376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000365.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it possible to fix before release the bug 920?
+</A><A NAME="365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000364.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it possible to fix before release the bug 920?
+</A><A NAME="364">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000332.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="332">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000346.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="346">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000379.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000384.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000385.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000386.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000387.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000388.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000389.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000390.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000391.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000351.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 1 release, some tasks
+</A><A NAME="351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000353.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 1 release, some tasks
+</A><A NAME="353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000361.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="361">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000348.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4; CD design of Mageia CD
+</A><A NAME="348">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000355.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7; website - The average Mageia User
+</A><A NAME="355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000356.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7; website - The average Mageia User
+</A><A NAME="356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000357.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 8; The new Mageia user - my comments explained
+</A><A NAME="357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000352.html">[Mageia-marketing] mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist
+</A><A NAME="352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000349.html">[Mageia-marketing] mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist
+</A><A NAME="349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000363.html">[Mageia-marketing] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="363">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000367.html">[Mageia-marketing] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000381.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000377.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marianne Lombard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000378.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000380.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000382.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000362.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release day texts - please check
+</A><A NAME="362">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000392.html">[Mageia-marketing] Screenshots for the homepage at release time
+</A><A NAME="392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000383.html">[Mageia-marketing] Screenshots for the homepage at release time
+</A><A NAME="383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000358.html">[Mageia-marketing] Slides of Mageia conference at Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000359.html">[Mageia-marketing] Slides of Mageia conference at Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000354.html">[Mageia-marketing] Tasks for Mageia 1 release, marketing/artwork
+</A><A NAME="354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000368.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates to focus pages
+</A><A NAME="368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue May 31 15:13:00 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 6 18:24:05 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
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+ <h1>May 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu May 5 19:24:13 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue May 31 15:13:00 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 61<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01304616253- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000331.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01304616253-01304616838- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000333.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="333">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01304616253-01304616838-01304617117- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000334.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="334">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01304616253-01304616838-01304617117-01304623927- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000335.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="335">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01304616253-01304616838-01304617117-01304623927-01304670193- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000338.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="338">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01304616253-01304628298- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000336.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="336">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01304616253-01304628298-01304629809- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000337.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="337">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01304616253-01304628298-01304629809-01304670621- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000339.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="339">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01304616253-01304628298-01304629809-01304670621-01304675111- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000340.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="340">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01304616253-01304628298-01304629809-01304670621-01304675111-01304681306- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000341.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="341">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01304616253-01304628298-01304629809-01304670621-01304675111-01304681306-01304682444- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000342.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="342">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01304616253-01304628298-01304629809-01304670621-01304675111-01304681306-01304682444-01304684332- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000343.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="343">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01304616253-01304628298-01304629809-01304670621-01304675111-01304681306-01304682444-01304684332-01304685100- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000344.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="344">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01304616253-01304628298-01304629809-01304670621-01304675111-01304681306-01304682444-01304684332-01304685100-01304685622- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000345.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="345">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01304616253-01304628298-01304629809-01304670621-01304675111-01304681306-01304682444-01304684332-01304685100-01304685622-01304940167- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000347.html">[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review
+</A><A NAME="347">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01304616458- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000332.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="332">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01304696874- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000346.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="346">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01304696874-01306523097- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000379.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01304696874-01306523097-01306753237- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000384.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01304696874-01306523097-01306753237-01306755100- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000385.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01304696874-01306523097-01306753237-01306755100-01306755368- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000386.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01304696874-01306523097-01306753237-01306755100-01306755368-01306755943- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000387.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01304696874-01306523097-01306753237-01306755100-01306755368-01306755943-01306779713- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000388.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01304696874-01306523097-01306753237-01306755100-01306755368-01306755943-01306779713-01306782282- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000389.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01304696874-01306523097-01306753237-01306755100-01306755368-01306755943-01306779713-01306782282-01306784593- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000390.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01304696874-01306523097-01306753237-01306755100-01306755368-01306755943-01306779713-01306782282-01306847580- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000391.html">[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia
+</A><A NAME="391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01305052527- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000348.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4; CD design of Mageia CD
+</A><A NAME="348">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01305249185- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000361.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events
+</A><A NAME="361">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01305577476- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000349.html">[Mageia-marketing] mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist
+</A><A NAME="349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01305577476-01305578035- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000352.html">[Mageia-marketing] mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist
+</A><A NAME="352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01305577640- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000350.html">[Mageia-marketing] Heads-up - release stuff needs to be ready in 2 weeks
+</A><A NAME="350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01305577843- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000351.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 1 release, some tasks
+</A><A NAME="351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01305577843-01305581970- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000353.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 1 release, some tasks
+</A><A NAME="353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01305577843-01305657761- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000354.html">[Mageia-marketing] Tasks for Mageia 1 release, marketing/artwork
+</A><A NAME="354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01305662362- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000355.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7; website - The average Mageia User
+</A><A NAME="355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01305662362-01305669413- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000356.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7; website - The average Mageia User
+</A><A NAME="356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01305745272- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000357.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 8; The new Mageia user - my comments explained
+</A><A NAME="357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01305841298- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000358.html">[Mageia-marketing] Slides of Mageia conference at Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01305841298-01305872095- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000359.html">[Mageia-marketing] Slides of Mageia conference at Linuxtag Berlin
+</A><A NAME="359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01306089159- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000362.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release day texts - please check
+</A><A NAME="362">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01306252322- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000363.html">[Mageia-marketing] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="363">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01306252322-01306256440- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000366.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="366">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01306252322-01306256440-01306262460- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000369.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01306252322-01306256440-01306262460-01306262847- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000370.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01306252322-01306261093- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000367.html">[Mageia-marketing] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01306252322-01306265253- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000371.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01306252322-01306265253-01306266793- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000372.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01306252322-01306265253-01306266793-01306269553- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000373.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01306252322-01306265253-01306266793-01306269553-01306274848- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000374.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens
+</A><A NAME="374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01306255349- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000364.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it possible to fix before release the bug 920?
+</A><A NAME="364">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01306255349-01306255798- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000365.html">[Mageia-marketing] Is it possible to fix before release the bug 920?
+</A><A NAME="365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01306261277- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000368.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates to focus pages
+</A><A NAME="368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01306416979- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000375.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation poster
+</A><A NAME="375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01306416979-01306420234- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000376.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation poster
+</A><A NAME="376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01306435432- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000377.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marianne Lombard
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01306435432-01306439417- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000378.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01306435432-01306524259- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000380.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01306435432-01306524259-01306588738- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000381.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01306435432-01306524259-01306588738-01306594438- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000382.html">[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01306707077- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000392.html">[Mageia-marketing] Screenshots for the homepage at release time
+</A><A NAME="392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01306707526- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000383.html">[Mageia-marketing] Screenshots for the homepage at release time
+</A><A NAME="383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+I'm am curently getting things set up for gathering artwork together
+for the Mageia 2 release and I am wondering if you have any
+suggestiongs as to how to best get a submission request accross to the
+community. I have a sticky thread in the forum and have posted a blog,
+but so far there is nothing on the Mageia web site.
+
+Any suggestion will be appreciated.
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+
+&gt;<i> I'm am curently getting things set up for gathering artwork together
+</I>&gt;<i> for the Mageia 2 release and I am wondering if you have any
+</I>&gt;<i> suggestiongs as to how to best get a submission request accross to the
+</I>&gt;<i> community. I have a sticky thread in the forum and have posted a blog,
+</I>&gt;<i> but so far there is nothing on the Mageia web site.
+</I>
+What about putting together a blog post? We can put that up, and tweet and
+FB and G+ about it; that will get you the widest audience.
+
+Also, have you talked to TeaAge (Thorsten) over at Artwork about this?
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Patricia Fraser
+on the move
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+&gt;<i> Hi Donald,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm am curently getting things set up for gathering artwork together
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for the Mageia 2 release and I am wondering if you have any
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> suggestiongs as to how to best get a submission request accross to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> community. I have a sticky thread in the forum and have posted a blog,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but so far there is nothing on the Mageia web site.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What about putting together a blog post? We can put that up, and tweet and
+</I>&gt;<i> FB and G+ about it; that will get you the widest audience.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, have you talked to TeaAge (Thorsten) over at Artwork about this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>
+Hey,
+
+Yes this has been discussed on the artwork list, however, before a
+blog post or anything is done it could do with a little more
+discussion.
+
+The problem being that the artwork team doesn't have any server space,
+but some is coming, and this could serve as a stop gap.
+
+I have already done a blog post, it is here:
+<A HREF="http://schultzslog.blogspot.com/2011/11/mageia-2-artwork-request.html">http://schultzslog.blogspot.com/2011/11/mageia-2-artwork-request.html</A>
+So if it needs any editing then just let me know.
+
+I am asking on irc to find out more what the artwork people think and
+will report back soon.
+
+Donald
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+Hi folks,
+
+It was our meeting night tonight - maybe the change from summer time
+messed everyone up? Or this of having meetings every other week, is
+it a problem? If you need me to send a reminder email, it's not a
+problem - just let me know.
+
+Anyway, please catch up with me, here on the list or via IRC at
+#mageia-marcom on Freenode, because we're ready to get some work
+going on the new wiki - all the old marcom content is up, and it
+really needs to be cleaned up a bit before we start getting ready
+for Mageia 2 - and the Alpha1 release is just days away!
+
+I'll be on IRC each day from 17:00 UTC (check your timezones!) for a
+couple of hours each day until Friday; on the weekend I can do almost
+any time, so please message the list with your preferences...
+
+Cheers!
+
+- --
+Trish Fraser
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+
+i&#180;m R&#233;gis (Rgx.) new listed in the translation team.
+
+I&#180;ve just receive this email from Julia Jumeau.
+
+Maybe can I help you ?
+
+Regards
+
+
+R&#233;gis
+
+
+
+-----Urspr&#252;ngliche Nachricht-----
+Von: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing-bounces at mageia.org</A> [mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing-bounces at mageia.org</A>] Im Auftrag von Donald Stewart
+Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. November 2011 12:44
+An: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+Betreff: [Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-Marketing]
+
+Hi,
+
+I'm am curently getting things set up for gathering artwork together for the Mageia 2 release and I am wondering if you have any suggestiongs as to how to best get a submission request accross to the community. I have a sticky thread in the forum and have posted a blog, but so far there is nothing on the Mageia web site.
+
+Any suggestion will be appreciated.
+
+Thanks,
+
+Donald 'Schultz' Stewart
+_______________________________________________
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+Hi Regis,
+
+&gt;<i> i&#180;m R&#233;gis (Rgx.) new listed in the translation team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I&#180;ve just receive this email from Julia Jumeau.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe can I help you ?
+</I>
+Thanks - this is an artwork-team initiative, and there will be a blog
+post going up on Monday, to tell people where help is needed and who
+to contact. Until then, probably best to check on the artwork mailing
+list <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A> or the
+#mageia-artwork channel on Freenode.
+
+Cheers!
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -----Urspr&#252;ngliche Nachricht-----
+</I>&gt;<i> Von: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing-bounces at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> [mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing-bounces at mageia.org</A>] Im Auftrag von Donald
+</I>&gt;<i> Stewart Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. November 2011 12:44 An:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A> Betreff: [Mageia-marketing]
+</I>&gt;<i> [Mageia-Marketing]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm am curently getting things set up for gathering artwork
+</I>&gt;<i> together for the Mageia 2 release and I am wondering if you have
+</I>&gt;<i> any suggestiongs as to how to best get a submission request accross
+</I>&gt;<i> to the community. I have a sticky thread in the forum and have
+</I>&gt;<i> posted a blog, but so far there is nothing on the Mageia web site.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any suggestion will be appreciated.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Donald 'Schultz' Stewart
+</I>
+
+
+
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+&gt;<i> I thougth this colour for the logo, look Mageia_02
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+Mageia logo is not up for such an update (change of colours or shapes)
+before after Mageia 2 at least.
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 19:29, Marco Favetta
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marco.favetta at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I thougth this colour for the logo, look Mageia_02
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia logo is not up for such an update (change of colours or
+</I>&gt;<i> shapes) before after Mageia 2 at least.
+</I>
+We're working with artowrk on a style doc at the moment, and one of
+the things it *doesn't* include is any change to the logo... 8-)
+
+Cheers,
+
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+
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+
+Check it out at <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org">https://wiki.mageia.org</A>
+
+Until now only the English wiki is online, other will follow soon.
+
+We did import all (or most) of the contents from the old wiki and tried to
+bring some structure into it.
+
+As you can see, there is almost no documentation for the end user till now but
+the documentation team will start changing that.
+If you would like to help us on that, just join the doc team in its meeting
+tommorow at 19.00 UTC in #mageia-doc on the Freenode irc netwoork.
+
+And please have a look at
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Wiki_and_Documentation#Page_naming">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Wiki_and_Documentation#Page_naming</A>
+before starting to create pages on the new wiki.
+We do want to keep some kind of order in it...
+
+ee also the blog post about it on <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/</A>
+
+
+Cheers,
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+This week is the artwork meeting week, so I hope you'll drop in and
+talk to those guys - you can always hang out in the marcom channel at
+the same time and chat about marcom things.
+
+I'm off in Copenhagen working and won't be able to make it online for
+the meeting, but I'll be back on the weekend and hanging around on IRC
+to catch up.
+
+Don't forget to use #startmeeting to start up the meetbot so proper
+logs and stuff are kept, and do #action for things that need to be
+done.
+
+Talk again soon!
+
+Anyone downloaded and tried Mageia 2, Alpha 1 yet?
+
+Cheers!
+
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi! (x-posting to web and marcom),
+
+as said to -dev
+(<A HREF="https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-November/009690.html">https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-November/009690.html</A>),
+alpha 1 release is in the next days (Friday).
+
+So it's time to prepare the alpha release page and announcement (kind
+of a last minute notice again, but we'll prepare for alpha2 as well!)
+
+ * the wiki page will be: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_alpha1">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_alpha1</A> -
+feeded first from packaging and QA teams)
+ * the main announcement landing page could be
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/2/">http://www.mageia.org/2/</A> (redirecting to the right locale if
+translated) with links to actual ISOs and the release notes, but this
+being technical still, maybe the Wiki page directly is good enough;
+ * a blog post should be pushed
+ * something else?
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+Hi rda,
+
+What do you need us to do about this? Main announcement/blog post -
+what else?
+
+If we need to do either of these, need some input about what's new in
+Mageia 2...
+
+Cheers!
+
+&gt;<i> Hi! (x-posting to web and marcom),
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as said to -dev
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-November/009690.html">https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-November/009690.html</A>),
+</I>&gt;<i> alpha 1 release is in the next days (Friday).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So it's time to prepare the alpha release page and announcement
+</I>&gt;<i> (kind of a last minute notice again, but we'll prepare for alpha2
+</I>&gt;<i> as well!)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * the wiki page will be:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_alpha1">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_alpha1</A> - feeded first from
+</I>&gt;<i> packaging and QA teams)
+</I>&gt;<i> * the main announcement landing page could be
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/2/">http://www.mageia.org/2/</A> (redirecting to the right locale if
+</I>&gt;<i> translated) with links to actual ISOs and the release notes, but
+</I>&gt;<i> this being technical still, maybe the Wiki page directly is good
+</I>&gt;<i> enough;
+</I>&gt;<i> * a blog post should be pushed
+</I>&gt;<i> * something else?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+
+
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+
+On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 18:03, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> What do you need us to do about this? &#160;Main announcement/blog post -
+</I>&gt;<i> what else?
+</I>
+Warming up things on -discuss as well and start to think along with
+-dev and -discuss how we will push Mageia 2 in the end.
+
+&gt;<i> If we need to do either of these, need some input about what's new in
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2...
+</I>
+Yes. Waiting for -dev to feed the wiki page for a start. I'll ping the
+list again.
+
+Romain
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+<LI><A HREF="000484.html">[Mageia-marketing] New wiki finally online
+</A><A NAME="484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
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+<LI><A HREF="000474.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-Marketing]
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000476.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<I>Donald Stewart
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000476.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting
+</A><A NAME="476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000480.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-Marketing]
+</A><A NAME="480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000481.html">[Mageia-marketing] colours for logo
+</A><A NAME="481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000482.html">[Mageia-marketing] colours for logo
+</A><A NAME="482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000483.html">[Mageia-marketing] Specially for Dale
+</A><A NAME="483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000484.html">[Mageia-marketing] New wiki finally online
+</A><A NAME="484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000485.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meetings this week
+</A><A NAME="485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000486.html">[Mageia-marketing] alpha 1 release info preparation
+</A><A NAME="486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000487.html">[Mageia-marketing] alpha 1 release info preparation
+</A><A NAME="487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000488.html">[Mageia-marketing] alpha 1 release info preparation
+</A><A NAME="488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000489.html">[Mageia-marketing] IRC tonight
+</A><A NAME="489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
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+ <ul>
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+<LI><A HREF="000473.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-Marketing]
+</A><A NAME="473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000479.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-Marketing]
+</A><A NAME="479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hamann, Regis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000474.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-Marketing]
+</A><A NAME="474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000475.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-Marketing]
+</A><A NAME="475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000480.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-Marketing]
+</A><A NAME="480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000486.html">[Mageia-marketing] alpha 1 release info preparation
+</A><A NAME="486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000487.html">[Mageia-marketing] alpha 1 release info preparation
+</A><A NAME="487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000488.html">[Mageia-marketing] alpha 1 release info preparation
+</A><A NAME="488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000481.html">[Mageia-marketing] colours for logo
+</A><A NAME="481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000482.html">[Mageia-marketing] colours for logo
+</A><A NAME="482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000489.html">[Mageia-marketing] IRC tonight
+</A><A NAME="489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000476.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting
+</A><A NAME="476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000485.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meetings this week
+</A><A NAME="485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000484.html">[Mageia-marketing] New wiki finally online
+</A><A NAME="484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000483.html">[Mageia-marketing] Specially for Dale
+</A><A NAME="483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
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+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Nov 23 18:29:03 CET 2011</i><br>
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+<!--0 01320234265- -->
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+</A><A NAME="473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01320234265-01320238804- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000479.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-Marketing]
+</A><A NAME="479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hamann, Regis
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01320234265-01320238804-01321048630- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000480.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-Marketing]
+</A><A NAME="480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01320234265-01320243943- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000474.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-Marketing]
+</A><A NAME="474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01320234265-01320243943-01320247077- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000475.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-Marketing]
+</A><A NAME="475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01320869914- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000476.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting
+</A><A NAME="476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01321094230- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000481.html">[Mageia-marketing] colours for logo
+</A><A NAME="481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01321094230-01321098331- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000482.html">[Mageia-marketing] colours for logo
+</A><A NAME="482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01321192475- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000483.html">[Mageia-marketing] Specially for Dale
+</A><A NAME="483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01321292083- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000484.html">[Mageia-marketing] New wiki finally online
+</A><A NAME="484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01321391501- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000485.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meetings this week
+</A><A NAME="485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01321894244- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000486.html">[Mageia-marketing] alpha 1 release info preparation
+</A><A NAME="486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01321894244-01321981393- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000487.html">[Mageia-marketing] alpha 1 release info preparation
+</A><A NAME="487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01321894244-01321981393-01321981960- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000488.html">[Mageia-marketing] alpha 1 release info preparation
+</A><A NAME="488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01322069343- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000489.html">[Mageia-marketing] IRC tonight
+</A><A NAME="489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Meeting%20this%20week&In-Reply-To=%3C20111003230326.7a69ae22%40andromeda.localdomain%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week">trish at thefrasers.org
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+ <I>Mon Oct 3 23:03:26 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+I hope we're all finding a bit of time for Mageia things in these
+busy days!
+
+The makeover of the wiki is about to start, and we're soon going to
+need to take ownership of the Marketing and Comms part of it - come
+talk about what we need to do, and how it's going to work.
+
+Also, we still have conferences and stuff coming up, where our
+deathless prose could get an airing; come and create!
+
+See you all wednesday, 19h00 UTC, on #mageia-marcom.
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+ma okt 3 23:01:30 CEST 2011
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Real%20meeting%20this%20week%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20111010184949.0a725cfc%40andromeda.localdomain%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Real meeting this week!">trish at thefrasers.org
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+ <I>Mon Oct 10 18:49:49 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+We had a great chat on IRC last Wednesday, and this week we'll go for
+the real meeting, with an agenda and everything.
+
+Things to discuss:
+1. to help get the new wiki up and running
+- this is mostly talking to docteam and artwork and helping if we can
+2. to migrate our stuff to the new wiki
+- what will we migrate, how it should look, that stuff
+3. to collect all the things in one place for Mageia people who want
+to do a stand at a conference or forum
+- this is pretty important, people have been asking about that lately
+4. to prepare for the release of Mageia 2 (probably now that will be
+May 2012)
+- looking at the task list and working out who will do what.
+
+Artwork is meeting on irc at #mageia-artwork earlier on Wednesday;
+we're up at 19h00 UTC. We should be able to get through this stuff
+in an hour, if we're good!
+
+See you there,
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+ma okt 10 18:45:43 CEST 2011
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Fw: MarCom mtg follow-up">trish at thefrasers.org
+ </A><BR>
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+Hi Dale,
+
+I' m forwarding this to the list, so everyone can take a look and we
+can get some discussion going!
+
+- -----
+
+Hi Trish
+ I have worked a bit on a document (stimulus paper) following up on
+Marco79's ideas about Mageia and the 3rd world. This stimulus paper
+extends his idea into a proposal for the next release of Mageia.
+What I have in mind is a remix disk designed for advertising with
+adoption being the end result.
+
+ If you think this stimulus paper might be useful, where would you
+suggest I place it? Also, is Marco79 the Marco Favetta #17, on the
+registration list? If you feel it appropriate, I could send the
+attachment to him.
+
+ I am working on the Core Values statement and on the Marketing &amp;
+Communication Teams document. Hopefully, more to come.
+
+dale
+
+
+- --
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+ <B>Marco Favetta</B>
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+Ich habe ein Netlog Profil mit meinen Bildern, Videos, Blogs und Events erstellt und m&#246;chte dich als Freund hinzuf&#252;gen, damit du dir das ansehen kannst. Du musst dich zuerst auf Netlog registrieren! Wenn du dich einloggst, kannst du dein eigenes Profil erstellen.
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+
+Gr&#252;&#223;e
+Wolfgang
+
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+Am 12. September 2011 07:40 schrieb Wolfgang Bornath &lt;
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">noreply+M192120826 at netlogmail.com</A>&gt;:
+
+&gt;<i> **
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;<i> m&#228;nnlich - 64 Jahre alt
+</I>&gt;<i> Hessen
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ich habe ein Netlog-Profil erstellt und m&#246;chte dir (
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>) Zugang zu meinen neuesten Bilder und mehr
+</I>&gt;<i> geben.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Verbinde dich mit Wolfgang
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_">http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hallo,
+</I>&gt;<i> Wolfgang Wird der Button oben nicht korrekt gezeigt?
+</I>&gt;<i> Klick here&lt;<A HREF="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_">http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_</A>&gt;oder kopiere den Link unten in die Adressleiste deines Browsers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> M&#246;chtest du keine Einladungen von deinen Freunden mehr erhalten? Klick
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+ <I>Tue Sep 20 19:20:56 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi everyone!
+
+Apologies for doubles of this reminder - I'm bcc:ing a couple of
+people who might not be subscribed to the list.
+
+We're about to get up and running after the summer break, and it's a
+good time for us to meet.
+
+Meeting is in #mageia-marcom on Freenode at 19:00 UTC tomorrow
+(Wednesday 21/09).
+
+Agenda items are:
+
+1. Input for artwork on design, colour palette etc;
+2. Our bit of the new wiki - redesign of the structure and how it
+works needs to be complete by next Monday's council meeting
+3. Working on the plans for marketing and communications to get
+things set for the Mageia 2 release (and publicity in the meantime).
+
+Check out the council and artwork meeting logs for the last couple of
+weeks here:
+
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/">http://meetbot.mageia.org/</A>
+
+See you there!
+
+Cheers,
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+I'm certainly going to try and make this one Patricia :)
+
+And thanks for all your hard work and effort too!
+
+On 09/20/2011 10:20 AM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Apologies for doubles of this reminder - I'm bcc:ing a couple of
+</I>&gt;<i> people who might not be subscribed to the list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We're about to get up and running after the summer break, and it's a
+</I>&gt;<i> good time for us to meet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Meeting is in #mageia-marcom on Freenode at 19:00 UTC tomorrow
+</I>&gt;<i> (Wednesday 21/09).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Agenda items are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Input for artwork on design, colour palette etc;
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Our bit of the new wiki - redesign of the structure and how it
+</I>&gt;<i> works needs to be complete by next Monday's council meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Working on the plans for marketing and communications to get
+</I>&gt;<i> things set for the Mageia 2 release (and publicity in the meantime).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Check out the council and artwork meeting logs for the last couple of
+</I>&gt;<i> weeks here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/">http://meetbot.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See you there!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.760.666.2703 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
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+<PRE>Hi all - sorry not to see anyone on IRC tonight.
+
+Anyone got input on-list about any of these points?
+
+&gt;<i> 1. Input for artwork on design, colour palette etc;
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Our bit of the new wiki - redesign of the structure and how it
+</I>&gt;<i> works needs to be complete by next Monday's council meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Working on the plans for marketing and communications to get
+</I>&gt;<i> things set for the Mageia 2 release (and publicity in the meantime).
+</I>
+Artwork has declared a palette, and they're well on into the wiki
+design; now would be a great time to speak up about what you'd like
+on the marcom part of the wiki.
+
+Check out the sandbox and speak up!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE>Le 02/04/2012 10:32, Max Quarterpleen a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ennael at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/4/2 Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for the very quick answer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Installer images: Sad to say that little progress has been made.
+</I>&gt;<i> We have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; some ideas, but no feedback and no actual images. Yet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If needed let's have a meeting. This is going nowhere even if you all
+</I>&gt;<i> have good ideas. We need to get a result now
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm going to see if we can schedule an impromptu meeting before
+</I>&gt;<i> Wednesday to discuss this and start work done, and then another on
+</I>&gt;<i> Wednesday.
+</I>
+After thinking about all this, we will stop here work on the installer
+images. Time is too short and discussion is going nowhere for now.
+Having one more meeting would not go anywhere. We had a planning and we
+are already very far from it. I will use screenshots for it and we will
+have to review together this kind of process to make it work for Mageia 3.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Backgrounds: We were discussing where to put the Mageia logo in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; background images and have nearly reached a consensus. Schultz has
+</I>&gt;<i> already
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; made several images with different resolutions. As soon as we know
+</I>&gt;<i> where and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; how to put the logo we will.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please go on. RC is planned in 1 week and all artwork should be
+</I>&gt;<i> integrated
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So far it looks like people like the logo with a drop shadow in the
+</I>&gt;<i> bottom-right corner of the screen. Anne, please have a look and make
+</I>&gt;<i> sure that this does not violate the logo rules:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mediafire.com/?uo3yah8myxpa1j5">http://www.mediafire.com/?uo3yah8myxpa1j5</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> If that is OK we'll start putting the logo in the different resolutions,
+</I>&gt;<i> making sure that it fits nicely in the KDE environment (GNOME and XFCE
+</I>&gt;<i> are less of a problem in this regard).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Boot: Schultz said he would be working on that, I don't know
+</I>&gt;<i> exactly how
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; much progress he has made.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Schultz, any input on this ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Anne Nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Le 02/04/2012 10:32, Max Quarterpleen a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ennael at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2012/4/2 Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks for the very quick answer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Installer images: Sad to say that little progress has been made.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; some ideas, but no feedback and no actual images. Yet.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If needed let's have a meeting. This is going nowhere even if you all
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have good ideas. We need to get a result now
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm going to see if we can schedule an impromptu meeting before
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Wednesday to discuss this and start work done, and then another on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Wednesday.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After thinking about all this, we will stop here work on the installer
+</I>&gt;<i> images. Time is too short and discussion is going nowhere for now.
+</I>&gt;<i> Having one more meeting would not go anywhere. We had a planning and we
+</I>&gt;<i> are already very far from it. I will use screenshots for it and we will
+</I>&gt;<i> have to review together this kind of process to make it work for Mageia 3.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+*sigh*
+You're right. I sort of wish we had gotten our act together sooner. Oh
+well, live and learn. We'll do better for Mga3.
+
+Also, about my last comment about the logo in the background. I think I
+should clarify: the logo as it is is both visible and unobtrusive. It
+clearly brands the image as part of Mageia and doesn't attract too much
+attention to itself, allowing people to view the image unencumbered.
+My question was more about the use of the shadow behind the logo (which
+helps it stand out but not so much that it pokes you in the eye). Is that
+OK as far as not changing the logo is concerned?
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Backgrounds: We were discussing where to put the Mageia logo in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; background images and have nearly reached a consensus. Schultz has
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; already
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; made several images with different resolutions. As soon as we know
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; where and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; how to put the logo we will.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please go on. RC is planned in 1 week and all artwork should be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; integrated
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So far it looks like people like the logo with a drop shadow in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bottom-right corner of the screen. Anne, please have a look and make
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sure that this does not violate the logo rules:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.mediafire.com/?uo3yah8myxpa1j5">http://www.mediafire.com/?uo3yah8myxpa1j5</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If that is OK we'll start putting the logo in the different resolutions,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; making sure that it fits nicely in the KDE environment (GNOME and XFCE
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; are less of a problem in this regard).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Boot: Schultz said he would be working on that, I don't know
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; exactly how
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; much progress he has made.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Schultz, any input on this ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
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+<PRE>Hi folks,
+
+Please look at Max's new backgrounds and vote for one logo:
+
+Begin forwarded message:
+
+Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 23:22:32 +0300
+From: Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia artwork discussion and work list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+
+
+Hi everybody.
+We've pretty much all agreed (or at least, everybody who has bothered to
+respond agreed) that we are going to go with the logo in the bottom
+right corner with the more prominent shadow, the drop-shadow.
+Now, some people thought that it still isn't very visible. I personally
+think it looks great, but I am only one person.
+So, I mad two more mockups: a greyscale logo and a white logo. (I tried
+a black logo and it was just awful).
+Grayscale: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg</A>
+White: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg</A>
+Natural: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg</A>
+Please disregard JPEG artifacts, we will distribute the images as PNGs.
+Please respond with your thoughts.
+Again, the final position of the logo will depend on the resolution of
+the image so that it won't interfere with the KDE taskbar.
+Max
+
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+&gt;<i> Grayscale: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> White: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Natural: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg</A>
+</I>
+Natural or Grayscale for me.
+
+Sebastian sebsebseb
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Grayscale: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; White: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Natural: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Natural or Grayscale for me.
+</I>
+Probably best to forward your vote to artwork, to make sure Max sees it.
+
+Cheers,
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+&gt;<i> Hi Seb,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Grayscale: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> White: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Natural: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Natural or Grayscale for me.
+</I>&gt;<i> Probably best to forward your vote to artwork, to make sure Max sees it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>
+Yep already done a email to the artwork mailing list after the one I
+sent here, to do with the backgrounds. Thanks for the suggestion though.
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+<PRE>Hi Josh
+
+I am replying later than intended.
+
+A newsletter is an ok idea, but I think a free PDF magazine for people
+to download with a new issue each month, would be a much better idea in
+the future, when our community is big enough. Something like
+<A HREF="http://pclosmag.com/">http://pclosmag.com/</A> and <A HREF="http://fullcirclemagazine.org">http://fullcirclemagazine.org</A> ,but aimed at
+Mageia users and potential Mageia users.
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+Full Circle Magazine also has a podcast, and having an official podcast
+for Mageia I think is a great idea. Unfortunately I don't have someone
+else to do one with at the moment, and I don't want to try and start one
+on my own. Also my idea for how I would want the podcast to be like,
+isn't really going to work unless there are enough people who would like
+to come on as a guest. Ideally I would want most episodes to have a
+guest. A guest who is a Mageia contributor, or just a user that would
+like to share their story about why they are using Mageia and what they
+think of it.
+
+I will be going on three or two podcasts to talk about Mageia 2 :).
+Possibly more even if other people would like me on theirs.
+
+I assume at the moment with the magazine idea just like with the Mageia
+podcast idea, currently lacking the helpers. However starting off with a
+weekly or monthly news letter would probably be much easier at the moment.
+
+With certain Mageia related projects, it really will help to have enough
+people first that would like to help with the project. Hopefully Mageia
+2 will bring in a lot of new contributors :).
+
+As for websites, I think that in general the more websites that mention
+Mageia in a positive way the better for the project :).
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+On 03/30/2012 12:59 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 04:51, Josh King (dotmil) &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What I do have is some ideas I would like feedback and comments on before we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have another mageiapeople.org fiasco.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why do you call it a fiasco?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1) a newsletter [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2) A Mageia news site. [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To be short; these are good ideas;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&gt;<i> and if you can find the right platform and people to set it up and
+</I>&gt;<i> maintain it as a news site, then why not.
+</I>
+Because it may be that either:
+
+1.) There wasn't enough access, or interest in that particular
+incarnation of those earlier prototyped concepts, or
+
+2.) We haven't stumbled across the formula with the right zeal and
+appeal that we're all looking for.
+
+Yes I think we may want to take a look at those all but abandoned
+vehicles, but also think that we shouldn't try to force the mold. These
+parts of our infrastructure were launched way back before Before Beta 1
+IIRC, and if their relative failure is a result of #2 above, then we may
+want to keep looking for something that appeals more to ????
+
+For example, our original forums were based on FudForum, software I
+particularly like for some projects, and not for others. They were
+basically buried within a free hosting solution, which wasn't
+acceptable, but no attempts were made to migrate any of the discussions
+to the current forums, and no links were provided when we finally did
+settle on the forumware we are using now.
+
+I would like to avoid beginning to move forward with real and exciting
+content, forced into a software solution that will simply prove once
+more, that it is for whatever reason unsuitable for our purposes. I'm
+not saying that what we already have is unsuitable, just that we need to
+think, and brainstorm, and sandbox without restriction until we all go,
+&quot;Hey that's pretty bitchen! Let's use that&quot;.
+
+I don't get the whole &quot;Planet&quot; thing. never did. But really, anything
+ewboontoo leaves a bad taste in my mouth anyway, and we're really trying
+to set ourselves apart from others anyway.
+
+in an earlier post, (and I think this was you Romain, who pointed it
+out), there needs to be some style applied to planet.mageia.org. This is
+going to require the coordination of MarCom w/the web development team
+along with the artwork team in order to accomplish, and there's really
+no point in even pursuing that until Trish is provided with the
+credentials so that she can delegate administration of this resource to
+members of the team here.
+
+It is pretty bland, and ugly, compared to the news and blog sites of
+other distros - even when compared to the minimalist approach used by
+debian GNU/Linux.
+
+Let's get these credentials to Trish, stop this nonsense with the
+infinite transferring of extension to extension, and get on with it.
+
+In the meantime, if we add content to the forward face of Mageia, let's
+make sure we can abandon the software at anytime and fold that content
+into software that in the future we may find more conducive to our needs.
+
+It was a fiasco, because there was no response, little direction, and
+ambiguous command and control related to the administration of this
+so-called *existing* infrastructure. The initiative that Josh and
+Sebastian showed in this was, albeit politely, shot down because we
+currently have an existing, yet perhaps inferior software service in
+place, for some of what we're talking about.
+
+Like Josh indicated, an SQL dump of the MariaDB database and a push from
+whatever RCS he used to deploy his POC beta is simple enough to migrate
+to a VirtualHost container under Mageia.org's HTTPD farm.
+
+heh. We do incorporate *MariaDB* INSTEAD of *MySQL*, don't we? LOL! Or
+are we using EllisonCo software, missing yet another opportunity to set
+ourselves apart from other Linux distros? ;)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+On 03/30/2012 11:10 AM, Josh King (dotmil) wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 03/28/2012 11:00 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Josh,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To admin the planet, all that is needed in the password for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/admin/login.php">http://planet.mageia.org/en/admin/login.php</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I was told marcom had this? Is this true?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think you need to talk to Dams, Damien Lallement:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt;, or coincoin on IRC.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Still no response on this. Will keep you updated, but all we need is the
+</I>&gt;<i> admin password for moonmoon and I can take it from there. Patricia, if
+</I>&gt;<i> nothing is heard back can you bring this up at the next council meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> perhaps?
+</I>
+Yes there's definately a breakdown somewhere. Thanks for your diligence
+in this matter Josh.
+
+Trish, I think we really do need to bring this up at the next council
+meeting.
+
+I'm sure that if there was adequate coordination on issues such as this,
+Josh wouldn't have had to self-host, and from what I have been able to
+ascertain he would have preferred to move forward under the magiea.org
+domain anyway.
+
+I'm rather surprised he hasn't thrown his hands up and said, &quot;whatev&quot;,
+already.
+
+Hang in there Josh There's something broken in the community's
+communication infrastructure and we may be forging ahead with arbitrary
+technological and production deadlines at the expense of a quality
+*community*.
+
+This is Open Source - there really is no real timeline; simply goals
+that currently push for product releases at the expense of coordinated
+efforts.
+
+Most people here know that I'm a Slacker, having used that distro since
+it's inception, and there's a lesson to be learned there: &quot;The next
+release of Slackware will be released when it's ready&quot;, is almost a
+mantra for a reason.
+
+Things mature in their own time. We can set goals and artificial
+deadlines (most deadlines in the world, with the exception of court
+dates, are indeed artificial), but we should be willing and able to
+adjust those dates based upon the *smoothly acheived* deadlines, derived
+from the self-imposed goals we set for such events to occur.
+
+I hope that helps :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
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+On 03/17/2012 06:29 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Bradley,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hopefully you're feeling completely recovered!
+</I>
+Thank you so much for your well wishes Trish :) Thanks to Sebastian and
+others too who expressed empathy. The major invasive stuff is completed,
+and I don't think I have to endure anymore grinding.
+
+I have an appt tomorrow LOL, so we'll see, but certainly nothing like
+what I went through the last time. The cutting is done, now for the
+paste, so to speak :)
+
+But I digress. Getting back on topic.
+
+I've been reading, lurking, flagging, and compiling sites to include on
+the wiki in the meantime.
+
+The level of noise on the list as such that no sooner did I turn around
+then we had about fifty new posts on the copy for the install screens on
+the list here, and it fatigued me, having to ask myself why people
+either weren't paying attention to what had transpired or consulted the
+archives, as rda correctly requested that people do in the future.
+
+Oh, how many pages of install screens do we have? (Joking, of course). I
+found that funny because there were no less than four times that
+question was asked by different folks lol ;)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There's a few contact points I can add to the notification list. I'll
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dig those up over the next couple of weeks, and Trish, if you can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shoot me on over any scraps of dangling release announcement copy to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> add to my scratch pad that would be nice to have as a reference too.
+</I>
+Quoting myself here, but before I put up any of these on the wiki I need
+some clarification/direction on the matter.
+
+We have a budget. And some of these sites are not free (Nor should we
+expect them to be). Some of the sites have *some* free services, and
+some are actually free.
+
+Each has varying targets.
+
+We spent around $2500.00 on stickers and such, so I can't imagine that
+an allocation of say, ten percent of that would be asking too much to
+earmark for MarCom's budget in this regard.
+
+I need to hear back whether we're going to have this support and that
+there is a potential to release this *neccessary* funding for us.
+
+If we can spend ten times this amount of stickers and t-shirts, then I
+believe it is prudent to allocate the pittance I'm asking for to reach
+millions in the mainstream - not just a few hundred or so at a couple of
+conventions.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't have any copy, alas, but we need to get three general things
+</I>&gt;<i> started:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. the Mageia blog post for release
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. a generic release announcement/press release for distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. interviews with people who use Mageia, and/or solicited reviews -
+</I>&gt;<i> for these, we need to get together a list of the kinds of questions
+</I>&gt;<i> people would like answers to.
+</I>
+Okay Trish has hit the nail on the head with respect to the priorities
+we should be focusing on above. Let's move off the infinite loop of the
+install screens now that it's a dead issue for the time being and take
+up the reigns of the tasks above that Trish has laid out for us :)
+
+wrt 1.) I think perhaps a good way to start is to get from Anne, an
+example of an announcement that she, as our spokesperson, might issue.
+
+We can nip in the butt any possibility that we'll be caught off guard
+again and embarrassed, by taking this proposed sample statement that she
+envisions releasing, fixing it, and then, as her teleprompter returning
+it as the statement we actually ARE going to issue.
+
+2.) This I've addressed above. I want to know what our budget is going
+to be, and zero is not acceptable considering the monies spent on
+schwag, that I pointed out above (Nothing wrong with scwhag, but I don't
+recall that marketing expense ever coming through our team for approval,
+nod, consensus, etc.).
+
+3.) Very good milestone to achieve. How might we &quot;solicit reviews&quot;, and
+what are many of the questions we're seeing on the forums that we can
+draw from for this, aside from...
+
+&quot;What sets Mageia apart from other major Linux distros?&quot; That's question
+number one IMO :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+On 03/30/2012 05:10 AM, Josh King (dotmil) wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On a different note, the news site look to be different enough from the
+</I>
+I would call this OT, as it implies what some would call a hijacked
+thread. Personally, I think that term is a little harsh, yet I do think
+your ideas in this regard would garner more notice by starting a new
+thread topic :)
+
+Regardless, I like your ideas Josh and I'm glad I took the time to read
+this one.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
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+On 03/23/2012 01:22 AM, Oliver Burger wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 23.03.2012 01:51, schrieb Josh King (dotmil):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi All,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have a basic install of moonmoon set up and running on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org.">http://mageiapeople.org.</A> I plan to do some design work this weekend so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it's not so, well, boring looking.
+</I>
+
+
+&gt;<i> I also fail to see a reason for putting things like that up outside the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia infrastructure.
+</I>
+We have a really big problem right now. We don't even have the
+administrative credentials for the services we're in charge of.
+
+It doesn't hurt to sandbox beta technologies anyway, and if it is
+something that might fly then we can migrate to the mageia.org zone.
+
+One really good reason for putting things like that up is the complete
+lack of command and control, that I have pointed out in another post,
+with regards to sandboxing these branstorm/poc/sandboxes/betas, within
+our own DNS domain.
+
+&gt;<i> Why not discuss it in advance? You are not working in a vacuum, there is
+</I>&gt;<i> a project arround you, isn't there?
+</I>
+Yes, we are operating in a relative vacuum in that regard. unable to
+even manage our own resources, by figuring out who has the darn
+passwords for doing so.
+
+It was discussed in advance too, in chan on IRC and on this list.
+
+Considering those facts, &quot;Is there a project around him?&quot;
+
+No offense intended Oliver. I'm just pointing a big fat spotlight on
+this, presumably temporary, shortcoming of our project.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
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+On 03/19/2012 11:58 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could I ask everyone please: don't top-post replies to the list?
+</I>
+
+You Go Girl! :)
+
+I'm so glad to hear that. And I noticed that even Sebastian fired off
+his last top-post about five hours after your notice in this email ;)
+
+I'm not going to trim this post. I think it should remain so that people
+who stumble across this post of mine in the archives be able to absorb,
+via osmosis, everything else you said below.
+
+For me, I'm simply going to send directly to /dev/null, via filters,
+anyone who does top-post, as I have neither the time nor the inclination
+to endure such punishment.
+
+So if anyone thinks I'm ignoring them, I'm not. I've just filtered them
+and will only see reference to them if they are quoted inline by someone
+else.
+
+So without further ado, here's the rest of Trish's post:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As of today, I won't be doing it any more; I've always hated it, and
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm done putting up with it; I'll be trimming your replies to me
+</I>&gt;<i> ruthlessly and answering inline, and I'll explain why I'd like all of
+</I>&gt;<i> the marcom team to follow suit.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What's wrong with top-posting?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * It makes messages difficult to read when the answer comes before the
+</I>&gt;<i> question - this is important not only to the original poster and
+</I>&gt;<i> the responder, but to everyone else on the list. Not all of us are
+</I>&gt;<i> native English speakers; we have to be clear and keep the extra
+</I>&gt;<i> waffle to a minimum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * It means the top-poster is less likely to trim (this does matter.
+</I>&gt;<i> There are still many people around the world stuck on dialup with
+</I>&gt;<i> very low data quotas), and subsequent top-posters are then also less
+</I>&gt;<i> likely to trim;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * It's going to be seen as rude on plenty of mailing lists, which is
+</I>&gt;<i> absolutely not how we want people to see Mageia's marketing reps.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please post your replies in-line, underneath the point you're
+</I>&gt;<i> replying to, and trim any parts of the original message(s) that you
+</I>&gt;<i> aren't replying to.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here's more info on the topic:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/gey_stv0.htm">http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/gey_stv0.htm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost">http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html">http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html">http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some older than others - all useful.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
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+On 04/02/2012 01:50 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please look at Max's new backgrounds and vote for one logo:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Begin forwarded message:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 23:22:32 +0300
+</I>&gt;<i> From: Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: Mageia artwork discussion and work list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Natural: <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg</A>
+</I>
+I like this one, and find it to be the classiest, and most clever, of
+the three.
+
+I'm not a member of the artwork team and won't be subscribing to the
+list there either, but this is my personal fav if Max would like to
+consider my input.
+
+I do have another question. Perhaps it is simply another symptom of the
+ten or so posts by Josh that have served to illustrate his frustration
+with an ineffectual bureaucracy in obtaining a single uid/pwd
+combination to manage a resource that belongs to MarCom in the first place:
+
+Q: Why, when we have our own infrastructure, is the artwork team posting
+development work to imgur.com?
+
+I would think that having all three images posted on a single page on
+our wiki or a gallery under our domain would be preferable.
+
+Thanks for forwarding the post here Trish, for those of us who aren't
+subscribed to the Artwork Team's list :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+There are five currently agreed upon (or not) sets of copy for the
+installation screens for those who perform graphical installs of Mageia.
+
+Following Ennael's post which seemingly scraps that out of control
+juggernaut (Good call IMO), There's plenty of time to work on this for
+Mageia 2.1, Mageia 3 Beta 1, whatev :)
+
+That having been said, we keep asking ourselves about what sets Mageia
+apart from other distros (IOW, why use Mageia instead of CentOS or
+Fedora, considering that Mageia is 'yet another RPM based distro').
+
+If we all keep asking ourselves this question, and all we get back is
+one little control center app, then that is, operationally, the main
+difference isn't it (Please, flame me on this one, I really want someone
+to take enough offense to this that I hear what makes our distro
+operationally and technologically different enough to compel someone to
+adopt)?
+
+On the non-production level, we have been receiving much feedback.
+Community, Community, Community. Great? Where?
+
+Josh has attempted, along with Sebastian and a few others to address
+this issue and sandbox a few proof of concept ideas. I won't go there in
+this post, but applaud that effort and point to the fact that because
+that effort has support, that we're lacking there with respect to our
+current *community* offerings.
+
+What I would like to suggest, is that in the future, one of the screens
+direct people, post-installation, to their root user's email inbox to
+get more involved, and for further information on post-installation
+matters - you might be tired of hearing this, but we do this with Slackware.
+
+&quot;You're almost finished installing the most spectaculicious of all Linux
+distributions, but take time to check the email for root when your done
+for getting involved with the community&quot; - yeah, a bit loquacious but
+you get the idea....
+
+Once the user is finished installing they have post-installation topics,
+including an email with links to join certain aspects of the community
+(which do not as of yet really exist).
+
+Just thought I'd offer that one up while chewing on a cud of alfalfa :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+On 03/23/2012 01:13 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 23/03/12 17:17, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Loqo typed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Facebook, etc.
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The Mageia group should be there as well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I wouldn't add google+, identi.ca or twitter rss feeds on planet. Planet
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is for blogs, not for microblogging sites. Adding g+ or identi.ca on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> planet will only polute with duplicate links to the same content.
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> There has been a misunderstanding and from more than one person it seems
+</I>&gt;<i> as well.
+</I>
+My eyes glazed over several days ago on this too.
+
+Sebastian, What I *think* I was able to understand, was your suggestion
+that everything (everything) feeds into indenti.ca, because that is the
+one route with which we can feed that has a path to feed all of the
+other social bookmarking/networking sites.
+
+Did I get that right?
+
+Can you do up a graphical flow chart that demonstrates this downstream
+effect? As MarCom, and if you're correct, we need to be able to sell the
+idea to the council and finalize this news feed concept.
+
+More than anything. I want to understand it :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> P.S
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's a good idea to have the first letter of a name capitalised usually,
+</I>&gt;<i> at the moment the name in the Twitter link is lower cased and the name
+</I>&gt;<i> in the Facebook link as well on the planet.
+</I>
+I can't believe that no one caught this misnomer LOL.
+
+Actually, the convention is to have everything lower case, since it's an
+URL.
+
+For example, you can <A HREF="http://twitter.com/mageia">http://twitter.com/mageia</A> or
+<A HREF="http://twitter.com/Mageia">http://twitter.com/Mageia</A> or <A HREF="http://twitter.com/mAgEiA">http://twitter.com/mAgEiA</A> ;)
+
+The same goes pretty much for most Social networking and bookmarking
+sites, including FB.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+On 03/29/2012 07:51 PM, Josh King (dotmil) wrote:
+&gt;<i> I know everyone is busy with the installer texts and images.
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunately that's not my strong suit so I haven't had much to add.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What I do have is some ideas...
+</I>
+No aplogies, please Josh. Keep on keepin' on ;)
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+On 03/28/2012 02:05 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Guys, please:
+</I>
+&gt;<i> - use the list archives too to know where you stand. There has been
+</I>
+Indeed.
+
+As the signal to noise ratio goes up people tend to disregard entire
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+Finally! Whew!
+
+The signal to noise ratio was up by an order of magnitude, so I chose to
+layout for a while, watch, and address points of relevance when the
+traffic died down.
+
+I think most things I'm commenting on are still relevant, otherwise the
+drafts I penned would have been roundfiled (many were, since those
+issues eventually answered themselves).
+
+I really tired of having to watch the copy for the install screens
+continually revisited, and it looks like it finally came to a conclusion
+- - and I drew conclusions from that mess that I've addressed too.
+
+Most existing threads, but couple of new threads here that I'm offering,
+and some more relevant than others.
+
+Our mail server seems to historically suck pretty bad - sometimes a post
+shows up quickly, and sometimes hours later. I dunno what the other
+folks on the admin team are failing to do and I don't have access to
+troubleshoot it but there is an failing there which can stymie the
+timeliness of responses for collaborative work.
+
+Maybe I'll track down the person who has direct administration over the
+SMTP servers later and beleaguer them with my incessant badgering till
+they fix it - but not now LOL.
+
+Anyway, and in no particular order, here comes the maelstrom :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
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+On 03/25/2012 01:17 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We have 5 texts, but some people mostly me) are unhappy with them.
+</I>
+That's because, as marketing folks, we've been publishing some decent
+copy when there wasn't anything particularly relevant to produce copy for.
+
+So you're not alone there :)
+
+That lack of satisfaction comes as a result of not really having
+anything to say, while being endowed with the skill to say it anyway to
+make it seem as if there is.
+
+I offered up one, I think, relevant point (along with another
+communications vehicle - the root's inbox) to consider including in our
+next spin of Mageia.
+
+Most of the points we provided copy for are just inventive ways of
+saying we're not any different than other major distros. The Niche
+distros have no problems expressing why you should use them, while we
+haven't discovered yet what it is we should be saying.
+
+But when we do, I have confidence that we'll be able to say it with
+eloquence.
+
+Maybe we should focus on how we're different from say, debian GNU/Linux
+- - the most completely inclusive (wrt software packages) of all Linux
+distros, and the greatest success story on the power of the community in
+that collaborative regard.
+
+Right now it's hard for me to imagine how we're operationally all that
+different from Redhat.
+
+I offered up a hint in one of my posts by directing attention to
+MariaDB, hint, hint.
+
+Not to say that MariaDB should be the major SQL server in our default
+install, but to showcase the possibilities of being different (um..
+better, to be sure).
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+On 03/30/2011 09:18 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Ok, htere's a quick followup and proposal to discuss. I'll forward to
+</I>&gt;<i> -discuss next week for further review, so please comment here and now
+</I>&gt;<i> already. :-p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:31, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 DVD (32 or 64bit)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 dual arch CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 netinstall CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 LiveCD (32, 64bit, locale specific)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 Mobile (for an equivalent to Flash)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that we can explain in a download/selection page depending on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> intended uses, with a set of default download made available in one
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> click (typically, that could be the 32bit LiveCD or dualarch CD).
+</I>
+Are these still the media spins we're going to use for Mageia 2 or have
+we expanded/diminished this list?
+
+Our offerings are going to be important to our press releases, and
+reviewers, as well as other announcements.
+
+IMO, the list above was a little lofty, redundant, or exessive in
+nature, but regardless, a definitive list of the various media spins
+we're going to throw out as ISOs or shrinkwraps needs to be part of most
+of the announcements we're going to make for the next stable release of
+Mageia.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
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+</I>&gt;<i> I do have another question. Perhaps it is simply another symptom of the
+</I>&gt;<i> ten or so posts by Josh that have served to illustrate his frustration
+</I>&gt;<i> with an ineffectual bureaucracy in obtaining a single uid/pwd
+</I>&gt;<i> combination to manage a resource that belongs to MarCom in the first place:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Q: Why, when we have our own infrastructure, is the artwork team posting
+</I>&gt;<i> development work to imgur.com?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would think that having all three images posted on a single page on
+</I>&gt;<i> our wiki or a gallery under our domain would be preferable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+At the risk of derailing the thread: there have been many, many,
+*many*requests of the sysadmin and webadmin teams to provide artwork
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+<PRE>On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:42, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> I would think that having all three images posted on a single page on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> our wiki or a gallery under our domain would be preferable.
+</I>
+A gallery would be better here.
+
+&gt;<i> At the risk of derailing the thread: there have been many, many, many
+</I>&gt;<i> requests of the sysadmin and webadmin teams to provide artwork (and probably
+</I>&gt;<i> marcom too) with server-side storage. That has yet to happen, and probably
+</I>&gt;<i> won't happen before Mga2. After that we can renew our begging.
+</I>
+Yes. Best would be to track it in a bug, with, in it, the list of
+services/capabilities you would like to have (I thought there was a
+bug open already, but could not find it): gallery, other?
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+In the meantime, there's a dropbox folder I believe (Patricia?).
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+<PRE>On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:17, Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> in an earlier post, (and I think this was you Romain, who pointed it
+</I>&gt;<i> out), there needs to be some style applied to planet.mageia.org. This is
+</I>&gt;<i> going to require the coordination of MarCom w/the web development team
+</I>&gt;<i> along with the artwork team in order to accomplish,
+</I>
+Yes. And I'm working on the moonmoon codebase to get a quick hold of
+it when it needs to be adapted, in case of.
+
+&gt;<i> and there's really
+</I>&gt;<i> no point in even pursuing that until Trish is provided with the
+</I>&gt;<i> credentials so that she can delegate administration of this resource to
+</I>&gt;<i> members of the team here.
+</I>
+Trish has the credentials (I don't, and I'm trying to get these too to
+unlock the issue further).
+
+&gt;<i> It was a fiasco, because there was no response, little direction, and
+</I>&gt;<i> ambiguous command and control related to the administration of this
+</I>&gt;<i> so-called *existing* infrastructure.
+</I>
+ - there was a response; albeit certainly not the one expected;
+ - little direction, yes; *
+ - ambiguous C&amp;C, yes;
+
+* globally, there little, if any, direction, regarding our Web
+resources at large; I'm responsible for that. Historically, I happen
+to manage www and most of its content; I welcome contributions, but
+indeed, I'd vet them, as a maintainer; Web team is sleeping, if still
+alive; that's an issue to me too, because although I have pending
+work, so far, it's still a one-man work (such as a coming redesign for
+the home page I started to draft) and it needs more directed
+discussion, and progress with actual code and production, to go
+forward. In short, it sucks for the time being.
+
+&gt;<i> The initiative that Josh and Sebastian showed in this was, albeit politely,
+</I>&gt;<i> shot down because we currently have an existing, yet perhaps inferior
+</I>&gt;<i> software service in place, for some of what we're talking about.
+</I>
+It's more that they could have had sooner access to it, yes, and that
+we need to know how to handle credential delegations (the moonmoon
+platform doesn't go for multiple user accounts for now). I'd perfectly
+go with the &quot;better apologize than ask for permission&quot; in that area,
+but that's something that must be acknowledged by everyone, and
+comparimentized, so that some aspects of the official releases (be it
+Mageia, or Web services) are not affected.
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 DVD (32 or 64bit)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 dual arch CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 netinstall CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 LiveCD (32, 64bit, locale specific)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia 1 Mobile (for an equivalent to Flash)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are these still the media spins we're going to use for Mageia 2 or have
+</I>&gt;<i> we expanded/diminished this list?
+</I>
+No change so far, but we have no &quot;Mobile&quot; variant:
+ - DVD (32 &amp; 64bit) =&gt; full, exclusively Free Software
+ - Dual arch CD =&gt; not available yet
+ - Live CDs (32 &amp; 64bit) =&gt; in various languages pack (although we did
+not have those for the past 2/3 unstable releases, so I don't know
+where we stand)
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+On 04/03/2012 01:42 AM, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At the risk of derailing the thread: there have been many, many,
+</I>&gt;<i> *many*requests of the sysadmin and webadmin teams to provide artwork
+</I>&gt;<i> (and
+</I>&gt;<i> probably marcom too) with server-side storage. That has yet to happen, and
+</I>&gt;<i> probably won't happen before Mga2. After that we can renew our begging.
+</I>
+hm... Well. My intent was simply to play devil's advocate with a book
+off matches, but in light of your response and Romain's....
+
+This appears to be of grave enough concern to... Well I'll just respond
+to Romain's post that followed in the other thread to keep it all in
+context by offering, I think, some welcomed news? ;)
+
+Don't touch that dial! Same Bat time, Same Bat channel :)
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+On 04/03/2012 02:25 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:37, Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 DVD (32 or 64bit)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 dual arch CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 netinstall CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 LiveCD (32, 64bit, locale specific)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Mageia 1 Mobile (for an equivalent to Flash)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are these still the media spins we're going to use for Mageia 2 or have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we expanded/diminished this list?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No change so far, but we have no &quot;Mobile&quot; variant:
+</I>&gt;<i> - DVD (32 &amp; 64bit) =&gt; full, exclusively Free Software
+</I>&gt;<i> - Dual arch CD =&gt; not available yet
+</I>&gt;<i> - Live CDs (32 &amp; 64bit) =&gt; in various languages pack (although we did
+</I>&gt;<i> not have those for the past 2/3 unstable releases, so I don't know
+</I>&gt;<i> where we stand)
+</I>&gt;<i> - Wired network-based install CD (32 &amp; 64bit)
+</I>
+
+Thanks rda :) This is crucial info for our announcements, and is a good
+place to start. We can adjust for public announcements at the last
+minute when we know for sure :)
+
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+On 04/03/2012 02:10 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * globally, there little, if any, direction, regarding our Web
+</I>&gt;<i> resources at large; I'm responsible for that. Historically, I happen
+</I>&gt;<i> to manage www and most of its content; I welcome contributions, but
+</I>&gt;<i> indeed, I'd vet them, as a maintainer; Web team is sleeping, if still
+</I>&gt;<i> alive; that's an issue to me too, because although I have pending
+</I>&gt;<i> work, so far, it's still a one-man work (such as a coming redesign for
+</I>&gt;<i> the home page I started to draft) and it needs more directed
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion, and progress with actual code and production, to go
+</I>&gt;<i> forward. In short, it sucks for the time being.
+</I>
+Well then... ;) I feel your pain :)
+
+I've been a member of the sysadmin team now for oh, I dunno, maybe 15 or
+16 months or so. I haven't bothered to try and offer any of my services
+there in over a year now, however, basically because of what you and Max
+have reported in the last couple of posts.
+
+I became more than interested in MarCom primarily because of you rda. I
+suppose I could dig up the post in my personal archives somewhere but I
+won't so please forgive me for my paraphrasing of your statement.
+
+You said something to the effect of, &quot;Here on the marketing team we will
+have the unenviable opportunity to be overworked, overlooked, not
+acknowledged and contributing much of most. Welcome!&quot; (I told you my
+paraphrase wouldn't do you much justice lol).
+
+I took that as a challenge, and have put forth effort where I could, and
+also when I could. I almost folded a couple of times but decided to just
+lay out instead because there's usually an ebb and flow.
+
+I completely understand the lack of time when we have to work on other
+things for our rice and top ramen LOL. So don't beat yourself up Romain ;)
+
+Basically, what I am is a systems engineer and sysadmin. That's what
+I've been doing since ARPAnet/MILnet days. I'm also a service provider.
+
+To me, three or four days to process a request is bordering on
+negligence. We're seeing three and four months here. It takes litterally
+45 seconds to create a user account, another minute to create a database
+for that person and three or four minutes to create a VirtualHost
+container so they can SSH in, do their work, upload their stuff, and
+dance around in ecstasy.
+
+I had no idea that even Max, being a Team Lead, was having such... Well
+I can't even begin to imagine his frustration - it far exceeds what
+we've been seeing here at MarCom. At least our team itself is pretty good :)
+
+So what I think *might* help alleviate some of the problems here, at
+least wrt prototyping and sandboxing, etc., would be to offer to deploy
+a Mageia box for such purposes.
+
+The only thing that would be left *wanting* is for whomever handles the
+DNS to add an A RR here and there.
+
+I would recommend that All development of the sort that Josh has been
+doing adhere to a standard convention like agile or whatev, although I
+could really care less and people could actually fly by the seat of
+their pants.
+
+What I mean by that is that it is prudent, to have development take
+place on a desktop or home server, and then push everything up with git
+and similar RCS tools to, let's call it a staging box that I launch for
+MarCom.
+
+I would give the root credentials to you and/or Trish, and aside from
+snapshotting it, will take no part in administration of this box. My
+stuff is in a private suite in One Wilshire, all storage is on a SAN
+cluster, and so far I run a 100% Proliant network farm - no commodity boxes.
+
+I've owned my own IP blocks for twenty years that were given to me by
+nic.ddn.mil back in my MILnet days and command my own reverse DNS
+directly at ARIN.
+
+At this time I can deploy a box under ESXi 5 - fully HA fault tolerant
+and clustered. For what we need I figure 512MB RAM and a couple of Xeon
+cores will suffice - I can make adjustments where necessary but for a
+web and database server that should be more than enough unless a bunch
+of people are running Eclipse or Netbeans or something.
+
+No ircd stuff or problematic daemons like that at this time please.
+Anything not mentioned just lemme know and I'll prolly give it a nod as
+long as it isn't something that script kiddies like to roll around in.
+
+If more types of database servers are needed I may need to bump the RAM
+a bit if traffic gets heavy, but it should be fine for MariaDB/MySQL,
+PostgreSQL, and maybe even Sybase or Oracle 9i all at the same time - I
+have noncom free licenses for the latter two if anyone needs to run
+stuff that off the wall.
+
+I would prefer to wait a couple or three weeks and then deploy it under
+Xen, which would completely remove me from the loop, provide you with a
+virtual serial console, and you would be responsible for all
+backups/snapshots yourself.
+
+If the need is urgent I could deploy the machine under VMware, but I
+will have to do the install myself and turn over the root pwd to you.
+
+If we can wait a couple of weeks I can simply provide you with the
+customer portal credentials where you can manage this server, do one
+click backups, destroy/reinstall from various distros (yes Mageia is one
+of them and presumably the one we want to run Mageia related stuff
+under), start/stop the box, etc.
+
+The reason we would need to wait a couple of weeks for the Xen is
+because at the moment, I have no stock. my stuff is in pretty high
+demand and I'm sitting on three new Proliant's that I have to configure
+the iLO for and then take then down to the datacenter and rack them.
+Then I have to enable the stock in inventory.
+
+I will do no firewalling. That's up to you, and you know what the big
+bad world is like out there.
+
+Personally, on all of my own machinery, you can't even FTP - only SCP or
+SFTP, often to obscure port numbers, but it's all just the same thing if
+you use Dreamweaver, Filezilla, Bluefish, whatev. I also usually enable
+X11-Forwarding so a simple 'ssh -Y box.sld.tld' will usually suffice to
+run whichever GUI apps that one really needs on the box.
+
+I would offer to do more, launch a box, harden it, administer security
+and access, etc., but given the cold shoulder I got when I joined the
+sysadmin team almost a year and a half ago I figure they should be
+accountable for something.
+
+If that works out, bear in mind I have unlimited bandwidth, unlimited
+resources once I allocate them, and PB's of SAN storage.
+
+Oh, one other thing. More than anything I was making a suggestion as to
+MariaDB to be the default INSTEAD of MySQL - no one can tell the
+difference anyway, except that the prompt is different and it runs
+circles around MySQL - it's the same thing by the same guy, but I
+suppose that's a matter for the council and packaging team to deliberate
+(Just thought I'd throw that bone out there :) ).
+
+Well, think on that. And if it's something that will benefit the
+community I'm more than happy to provide it. Sorry I can't be much help
+with the actual web design stuff, I wish my CSS and javascript was better.
+
+This would enable people to have sandboxes or prototype/poc stuff
+without burdening the main Mageia server resources (Mine are I'm sure
+more robust anyway). Whoever holds root though, I EXPECT that they will
+be responsible when it comes to DR and security, as well as the creation
+of DBs and VirtualHost containers and non-priv'd user accounts so those
+who need to can sandbox.
+
+I'm sorry I'm not offering more in the way of actually managing the box
+for the community, hardening, and taking on a more active management
+role with it, but I just don't see the responsiveness from other parts
+of the community that I would require to take on that role, let alone
+the responsibility - Max, Josh, you, and others are expressing a lot of
+frustration there and I'm just not willing to put in that much work w/o
+knowing it will actually be utilized.
+
+Lemme know. Or if you have any thoughts on the matter, since this is an
+open ended offer take your time and moll it around with a few other
+(responsible and reactive) folks in the appropriate places before
+getting back to me. On or offlist.
+
+tallship now removes removes his SA hat and puts his MarCom hat back on
+coz it's fun and challenging and outside his comfort zone :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> &gt; and there's really
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; no point in even pursuing that until Trish is provided with the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; credentials so that she can delegate administration of this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; resource to members of the team here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish has the credentials (I don't, and I'm trying to get these too to
+</I>&gt;<i> unlock the issue further).
+</I>
+Um, not yet. Dams is doing something about it for Josh at the moment,
+but it ain't done yet.
+
+Bradley, how nice to see you come back to life! I'll get some responses
+going shortly.
+
+Cheers,
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> &gt; At the risk of derailing the thread: there have been many, many,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; many requests of the sysadmin and webadmin teams to provide artwork
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (and probably marcom too) with server-side storage. That has yet to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; happen, and probably won't happen before Mga2. After that we can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; renew our begging.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes. Best would be to track it in a bug, with, in it, the list of
+</I>&gt;<i> services/capabilities you would like to have (I thought there was a
+</I>&gt;<i> bug open already, but could not find it): gallery, other?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the meantime, there's a dropbox folder I believe (Patricia?).
+</I>
+Marcom has a sandbox on the Wiki, and I do have a bit of dropbox
+storage set aside for Mageia, but yes: a bug. Right now.
+
+Cheers,
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+
+Please put this one somewhere where you can check it over the next
+couple of weeks - it's going to be our work-in-progress document until
+release.
+
+PLEASE DO THINGS IN ORDER OF PRIORITY.
+
+Sorry; I know I shouldn't shout; but!
+
+Priority #1:
+
+The release texts. We've got a space ready to go in the Sandbox, please
+let's get on with it.
+
+Head over to the Sandbox and start writing.
+
+We need to have a first draft ready for the next Council meeting, and
+if I have to write it all by myself over Easted, I won't be a happy
+woman!
+
+Deadline for completion: 23 April.
+
+Priority #2:
+
+Do some writing for the new-look website - I'll have details about this
+shortly (just waiting for some more from Romain).
+
+Deadline for completion: 23 April.
+
+Both #1 and #2 have to go from us to i18n, so we need to honour the
+deadline.
+
+Priority #3:
+
+Get the planet sorted. Dams has come back to me and Josh and will
+organise the login this week, but I'll keep chasing until it happens.
+
+Priority #4:
+
+Get our press release off to all the sites on our list, *before* the
+release happens... 8-)
+
+Priority #5:
+
+Have a post-mortem, and make sure that this schemozzle doesn't happen
+again next time.
+
+Priority #0:
+
+USE THE SANDBOX. Really. Email the list with an idea, but write it up
+properly (not half-baked) and put it in the sandbox. When we've nailed
+it down, move it to the main page, then we can DO stuff. We've indulged
+in way more wittering than we really need to!
+
+Cheers!
+
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+I've raised a bug about the space we've been asking for, lo this long
+time:
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+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213</A>
+
+Max, could you please add to it what you need?
+
+Cheers!
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+
+Once the vote is gone, can someone mail me the svg or png of the chosen logo.
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+<PRE>Forwarding to artwork and marcom for comment.
+
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As seen in bug this bug:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcom and Artwork teams (and maybe other teams later) need to have a
+</I>&gt;<i> storage space to upload temporary files, to share work in progress.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To do that, I think a simple solution would be to use WebDAV :
+</I>&gt;<i> - we setup webdav with ssl, and allow upload from users from artwork
+</I>&gt;<i> ldap group
+</I>&gt;<i> - we setup apache to distribute files from this directory, as
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://tmp.mageia.org/artwork">http://tmp.mageia.org/artwork</A> (disabling execution of any script)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Other options that I see are :
+</I>&gt;<i> - using an ftp server instead of webdav to upload the files. However
+</I>&gt;<i> the connection is not encrypted with ftp.
+</I>&gt;<i> - using scp/sftp, but this require to have posix accounts for all
+</I>&gt;<i> users
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+
+&gt;<i> either greyscale or full white for me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Once the vote is gone, can someone mail me the svg or png of the chosen
+</I>&gt;<i> logo.
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+An xcf with the proper layers.
+I wasn't happy with the shadows in Inkscape, so I used Gimp.
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+<PRE>Hi there, (please followup the discussion in mageia-marketing, not in
+-artwork or -webteam)
+
+here's a peak at one possible option for Mageia 2 release Web site
+update (not full at once, but for most important pages, and driving
+other pages into that direction too).
+
+The rationale behind this update is articulated as such:
+
+ A) the home page (mageia.org/) is targetted at one-time/first
+time/casual visitors, with a single, main call to action: download
+Mageia. There are others actions, such as: contribute, get older
+version(s), learn more about the product, and the community and the
+project. But there is no other navigation. It's really a poster-like
+page, direct to a main action, with the following main channel for
+visitors:
+
+ - home =&gt; action 1: get the software
+ - download =&gt; action 1: select your download
+ - while-downloading =&gt; actions: how to use, how to contribute, learn
+more about Mageia, what feedback you could provide
+
+Pushing this page calls for updating the Downloads index page design
+as well as the post-download page.
+
+
+ B) a dedicated, community home page is for people coming back again
+and again (contributors, activ users) with three main incoming
+sources:
+ - start.mageia.org (loaded by Mageia browsers)
+ - a mageia.org/coop or another keyword.
+ - home page lower priority action (see bottom nav links &quot;Community&quot;)
+
+Here go: news, calendar, teams, docs, and links to the various
+resources/tools on mageia.org in an organized way.
+
+
+ C) for past-home page pages, a new top navigation bar, organizing
+more of the site and making it more accessible from everywhere;
+especially, for easier embedding/deployment/update of it, the navbar
+will be available in different fashion: a dynamic Web service will
+produce the needed HTML/JS for it, and a JS snippet will allow to
+dynamically insert it into all sites (so there's little integration
+work). The top navigation bar exact content is still up to debate, but
+the very top categories should not exceed 5/6 entries at most.
+
+A, B and C are not strongly attached to each other, however they are
+part of the same proposal. There's a missing download page (and
+animation) from A page, but that's a start to go.
+
+A (home page) is <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/7Vqq6.png">http://i.imgur.com/7Vqq6.png</A> . It's a bold move for
+us. It's heavily inspired from a Firefox page which is a nice example
+of a product landing page. From a charter point of view, it reuses the
+white/blue gradient from our original logo and site elements. It may
+benefit from a very light, thin pattern in the blue background, or not
+(not sure). Text copy may need tweaks.
+
+B (community page) is ... still pending, I'm not satisfied with what I
+have so far. We have <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/contribute/">http://www.mageia.org/contribute/</A> but I'm not
+sure to change this one right now. Hope to have something to roll out
+for review next week.
+
+C (global nav) is ... pending too. I will roll it out for testing
+later this week. What it needs is to refine its structure; currently
+planned is:
+
+ * Mageia (links to a special map page of the site)
+ * About Us: mageia project info/history &amp; mageia.org organization
+info, what is under <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/about/">http://mageia.org/en/about/</A> already
+ * Downloads:
+ - Mageia 1 and 2 downloads and features pages,
+ - updates downloads info and mirrors
+ - mirrors
+ - specific software (we used to host a specific mgaonline package for)
+ * Community:
+ - news (blogs, planets, other?), calendar
+ - introduction to contributing
+ - forums, mailing-lists, IRC
+ - wiki, bugzilla, other doc resources
+ - contributors corners
+ * Support: current <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/support/">http://www.mageia.org/en/support/</A> page redispatched:
+ - users support: community and commercial vendors
+ - (security) updates info
+ - product lifecycle
+ - hardware stuff
+ * Contribute: necessary? as a short link to the contributors guide
+ * About You: not available for now, maybe moved somewhere else, but
+supported by identity and other mageia.org services, would act as a
+portal for every single user, to monitor her own activity/data.
+ * Search (over mageia.org domain)
+
+This new nav answer three concerns:
+ - /platform: allow an easier, consistent deployment of the top nav
+updates through all mageia.org; using here a javascript snippet;
+ - /layout: embed the Mageia logo in the navigation bar, so that it
+too brands the page to the project;
+ - /content: better structure the mageia.org domain into main activities/zones.
+
+I know that some may worry that some links currently in the top nav
+bar won't be available/visible anymore in all mageia.org as a first
+level item. It's a matter of context and of the very details of the
+implementation and the navigation channels.
+
+I don't have a B plan about that at this time, but it's not mandatory
+to change all things either. So it either works, or it doesn't.
+
+
+Note that (for a future/long term question), separating what is about
+the product (Features, Downloads, Support, News) from what is about
+the project/community (About Us, Community, part of Support,
+Contribute) would help a lot (different life cycles for the sites),
+but it needs to have a separate name for each too.
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+<PRE>Hi Bradley,
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+&gt;<i> We have a budget. And some of these sites are not free (Nor should we
+</I>&gt;<i> expect them to be). Some of the sites have *some* free services, and
+</I>&gt;<i> some are actually free.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> I need to hear back whether we're going to have this support and that
+</I>&gt;<i> there is a potential to release this *neccessary* funding for us.
+</I>
+If we need a budget, we actually have to put it together before asking
+for it; can you put something together with costs and priorities that
+we can use as a starting point?
+
+Personally I'd like to concentrate on free content, rather than
+paid-for content, but let's have a look at your proposal and see?
+
+Cheers,
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+&gt;<i> I'm probably not very popular by talking bluntly, so I apologise
+</I>&gt;<i> again. This is how I've learned to get things done and any polite
+</I>&gt;<i> requests for changing my style/approach will be taken on board without
+</I>&gt;<i> conflict.
+</I>A late reply: That's fine with me.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You guys are all awesome and I respect every one of you. I'm proud to
+</I>&gt;<i> be a part of this process!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I genuinely love Mageia and want to get the best possible results. I
+</I>&gt;<i> wish to see a wide range of users coming to Mageia and loving it as
+</I>&gt;<i> much as I do! I also want to make it friendly and clear for newcomers
+</I>&gt;<i> that aren't experienced with Linux. Why should Ubuntu get them all?
+</I>&gt;<i> ;)
+</I>Indeed at that.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+&gt;<i> 1) a newsletter - biweekly or whatever frequency fits to update
+</I>&gt;<i> subscribers on whats new in Magia. It would also be a good place for
+</I>&gt;<i> developer/team member interviews, and maybe a &quot;howto&quot; section. I don't
+</I>&gt;<i> claim to be a writer by any means so this would need to be a
+</I>&gt;<i> collaborative effort
+</I>
+After sending my first reply, I got onto
+<A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue259">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue259</A> yesterday
+morning the 3rd. Jono Bacon's dent to Identica, and Tweet to Twitter,
+came in as a channel notice to a IRC channel I go to and I saw the message.
+
+I also had a bit of a look at some of the past issues. I think how they
+do the newsletter on their WIKI like that, is a very good idea.
+
+For quite a long time I have been subscribed to Jono Bacon the Ubuntu
+Community Manager on Identica.
+
+As a new distro with a new community we can learn a lot from Ubuntu with
+a very established distro and community!
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley, how nice to see you come back to life! I'll get some responses
+</I>&gt;<i> going shortly.
+</I>Yep nice to have him back, but that means more emails for me to reply to
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+<PRE>On 03/04/12, Bradley D. Thornton typed:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I really tired of having to watch the copy for the install screens
+</I>&gt;<i> continually revisited, and it looks like it finally came to a conclusion
+</I>&gt;<i> - - and I drew conclusions from that mess that I've addressed too.
+</I>
+Hi Bradley
+
+I helped with the install screen texts quite a lot, and made sure the
+graphics designer had made the install screen images with the marketing
+team text, two different versions in fact. It's ashame that none of that
+is going to be used in Mageia 2. Or maybe Anne's using screen shots
+instead idea can have marketing team text's as part of it?
+
+To give an idea what final installer screen texts would have been or
+been like after some changes:
+
+1. Mageia is more than just a Linux distribution: it'sa community of
+users, developers, and advocates from around the world. (18 words)
+
+2. Mageia is international - you can use it and be part of our community
+in your own language. (17 words)
+
+We need something that explains the repo's, or makes it clear, that
+loads of applications can be quickly downloaded and installed for 3. (Seb)
+
+3. Mageia has lots of different types of applications ready for quick
+easy install - Office, Internet, Development, Education, and more. (19
+words)
+
+4. Mageia Control Center allows the easy set upofuser accounts,
+hardware, software, networking, security and more. (17words)
+
+5. Using Mageia meansyou are part of our community - please get
+involved! www.mageia.org (13 words)
+
+Pretty good aren't they? Shame none of them will be being used in Mageia
+2 it seems. I guess they can be used in Mageia 3 though instead or
+something similar.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Our mail server seems to historically suck pretty bad - sometimes a post
+</I>&gt;<i> shows up quickly, and sometimes hours later. I dunno what the other
+</I>&gt;<i> folks on the admin team are failing to do and I don't have access to
+</I>&gt;<i> troubleshoot it but there is an failing there which can stymie the
+</I>&gt;<i> timeliness of responses for collaborative work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe I'll track down the person who has direct administration over the
+</I>&gt;<i> SMTP servers later and beleaguer them with my incessant badgering till
+</I>&gt;<i> they fix it - but not now LOL.
+</I>Indeed I have had major issues with that before, emails not appearing on
+the mailing list untill much later, went to the system admins team
+channel a few weeks or so ago, when this happended as well for example.
+Plus ended up sending a message again to this mailing list to find out
+if it was working properly or not which it wasn't at the time, and so
+also ended up with the message twice on this mailing list.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<PRE>I (Sebastian sebsebseb ) don't know why in the other message some of the
+words are joined together that shouldn't be. Wasn't like that on the
+Pirate Pad.
+
+1. Mageia is more than just a Linux distribution: it's a community of
+users, developers, and advocates from around the world. (18 words)
+
+2. Mageia is international - you can use it and be part of our community
+in your own language. (17 words)
+
+We need something that explains the repo's, or makes it clear, that
+loads of applications can be quickly downloaded and installed for 3. (Seb)
+
+3. Mageia has lots of different types of applications ready for quick
+easy install - Office, Internet, Development, Education, and more. (19
+words)
+
+4. Mageia Control Center allows the easy set up of user accounts,
+hardware, software, networking, security and more. (17words)
+
+5. Using Mageia means you are part of our community - please get
+involved! www.mageia.org (13 words)
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+<PRE>On 03/04/12, Bradley D. Thornton typed:
+&gt;<i> Sebastian, What I *think* I was able to understand, was your
+</I>&gt;<i> suggestion that everything (everything) feeds into indenti.ca, because
+</I>&gt;<i> that is the one route with which we can feed that has a path to feed
+</I>&gt;<i> all of the other social bookmarking/networking sites. Did I get that
+</I>&gt;<i> right? Can you do up a graphical flow chart that demonstrates this
+</I>&gt;<i> downstream effect? As MarCom, and if you're correct, we need to be
+</I>&gt;<i> able to sell the idea to the council and finalize this news feed
+</I>&gt;<i> concept. More than anything. I want to understand it :)
+</I>Yep that's basically it, if first send the message from Identica it can
+also go to Twitter, and from Twitter some how to Facebook. If send the
+message first from Diaspora to Identica, it can then go to Twitter and
+like I said before from Twitter to Facebook some how.
+
+With Identica got to use ! to send to the group
+<A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A> however Twitter only uses # which would
+send to a tag on Identica <A HREF="http://identi.ca/tag/mageia">http://identi.ca/tag/mageia</A> and the Identica
+bridge to Twitter automatically converts ! to # when sending the message
+to Twitter.
+
+Yes Identica and Diaspora aren't mainstreame social networking sites
+such as Twitter and Facebook, however Mageia has a presence there, and
+so they should be taken seriously as well and ideally by the whole
+Mageia social networking community. Another reason for them to be taken
+seriously would be that they are open social networking sites unlike
+Twitter and Facebook. Identica has mainly Linux users using the site it
+seems, and I think that's the same for Diaspora.
+
+Twitter can't send to Identica directly for example.
+
+Anyway that's a good idea I could do a chart or something like that
+later on, trying to explain this stuff as well.
+
+<A HREF="http://status.net/wiki/Twitter">http://status.net/wiki/Twitter</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://kmacphail.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/exporting-diaspora-posts-to-identica.html.">http://kmacphail.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/exporting-diaspora-posts-to-identica.html.</A>
+
+&gt;<i> Actually, the convention is to have everything lower case, since it's an
+</I>&gt;<i> URL.
+</I>I meant the URL title text's them selves.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 03/25/2012 01:17 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We have 5 texts, but some people mostly me) are unhappy with them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>No that was Max that put that he wasn't happy with the original text's,
+I just agreed with him that they could have been improved.
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+&gt;<i> I'm so glad to hear that. And I noticed that even Sebastian fired off
+</I>&gt;<i> his last top-post about five hours after your notice in this email ;)
+</I>I am still quite new to sending emails to mailing lists really. Took me
+over a year to join most of the Mageia mailing list's for a few reasons.
+Then I started sending to them as I started to join teams in December.
+Some of the Mageia mailing lists are the first mailing lists that I am
+sending messages to and then a bit later on the LUG as well.
+
+In early January I finally bothered to join the LUG mailing list, which
+I am glad I have done. Been to the LUG once so far, and that was fun :).
+Would have been twice, but some travel issues and there wasn't really a
+proper meeting that time anyway. Gave away most of the Mageia 1 KDE and
+Gnome CD's from FOSDEM 2012 that I wanted to get rid of last month as
+well :).
+
+Going to the LUG probably at the end of this month :).
+
+Really when it comes to online communication I prefer much more instant
+communication such as IRC and instant messaging, however now since
+Mageia I am starting to become much more of an emails person as well.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Apparently, Marcom is supposed to look after the official planet (and
+</I>&gt;<i> receive all the requests and arrange for people to get hooked up). So,
+</I>&gt;<i> adding users to the official planet is our task anyway, and that means
+</I>&gt;<i> we can decide how the planet is going - and we have to moderate it so
+</I>&gt;<i> that we watch out for feeds with offensive or illegal content, and be
+</I>&gt;<i> prepared to move... so we need to make sure that people wanting to
+</I>&gt;<i> add their feeds are very aware of the Code of Conduct, among other
+</I>&gt;<i> things.
+</I>
+For the planet, I think a few things needs to be done :
+
+ - define clear rules about what kind of blogs are allowed on planet.
+
+ - define a list of people with admin access on planet, whose role is to
+ add the feeds when people request it, or remove feeds which are not
+ following the rules
+
+ - define how to request a new blog to be added: I think bugzilla could
+ be used for this. We can add a component in bugzilla for this kind of
+ request if needed.
+
+ - Write a wiki page to be linked from planet, with : the rules about
+ allowed blogs on planet, how to request a new blog to be added, and
+ the list of people with admin access
+
+</PRE>
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+&gt;<i> I don't get the whole &quot;Planet&quot; thing. never did. But really, anything
+</I>&gt;<i> ewboontoo leaves a bad taste in my mouth anyway, and we're really
+</I>&gt;<i> trying to set ourselves apart from others anyway.
+</I>
+Loads of open source projects have planets and here are two more:
+<A HREF="http://planet.gnome.org/">http://planet.gnome.org/</A> <A HREF="http://planetkde.org/">http://planetkde.org/</A>
+
+I guess Planets for opensource/freesoftware projects are fashionable at
+the moment. I mean something that by many people is expected at the
+moment for a opensource/freesoftware project to have.
+
+I used to help a lot with Ubuntu in IRC in 2008, 2009, and 2010. I used
+to chat to loads of different people who were using or trying out Ubuntu
+in private message as well for example. Also I have seen new users at
+the time put this kind of thing on IRC: How they think the Ubuntu
+community is really good, and that's what made them use Ubuntu.
+
+I don't like the distro itself that much any more for various reasons
+since 9.04/9.10, however will still try it out at times. Oh I know, and
+I have seen it for myself a lot, they have a very good community for
+their distro and it's been like that for many years.
+
+What I think as contributors of a new distribution, we should learn a
+lot from the other distro's such as Ubuntu when it comes to running a
+community and providing something for a community. Do some of the same
+things like we do at the moment such as, planets, and forums, and IRC
+channels and so on. However we need to also think about doing something
+different as well communitywise that will attract new users to our
+distro, rather than the others, and try and do that as well. Well if the
+long term goal is to try and have Mageia being one of the most used
+distros. If we don't do something different that attracts many new
+users to our community, well why should a new user pick Mageia over many
+other distro's really?
+
+If we are going to have a rather big user base for Mageia, we need to
+keep on working on the community making it better and better, not just
+the distro itself!
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+&gt;<i> For the planet, I think a few things needs to be done :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- define clear rules about what kind of blogs are allowed on planet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- define a list of people with admin access on planet, whose role is to
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; add the feeds when people request it, or remove feeds which are not
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; following the rules
+</I>
+Damien suggested to put this config in a svn repository with full
+access. So whatever happens, we know who committed what.
+
+&gt;<i> &#160;- define how to request a new blog to be added: I think bugzilla could
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; be used for this. We can add a component in bugzilla for this kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; request if needed.
+</I>
+There's a planet.mageia.org component (just checked).
+
+&gt;<i> &#160;- Write a wiki page to be linked from planet, with : the rules about
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; allowed blogs on planet, how to request a new blog to be added, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; the list of people with admin access
+</I>
+Here: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets</A>
+</PRE>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That having been said, we keep asking ourselves about what sets Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> apart from other distros (IOW, why use Mageia instead of CentOS or
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora, considering that Mageia is 'yet another RPM based distro').
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we all keep asking ourselves this question, and all we get back is
+</I>&gt;<i> one little control center app, then that is, operationally, the main
+</I>&gt;<i> difference isn't it (Please, flame me on this one, I really want someone
+</I>&gt;<i> to take enough offense to this that I hear what makes our distro
+</I>&gt;<i> operationally and technologically different enough to compel someone to
+</I>&gt;<i> adopt)?
+</I>
+Thing is with the control centre, Mandriva obviously also has a version
+of it as well, but also PC Linux OS, Unity Linux, and I think all the
+distro's based on Unity Linux. Unity Linux is more of a distribution
+builder than a distro or something like that.
+
+Probably wouldn't take that much for loads of other distro's to have a
+version of the control centre as well, it's open source after all.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That having been said, we keep asking ourselves about what sets Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> apart from other distros (IOW, why use Mageia instead of CentOS or
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora, considering that Mageia is 'yet another RPM based distro').
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we all keep asking ourselves this question, and all we get back is
+</I>&gt;<i> one little control center app, then that is, operationally, the main
+</I>&gt;<i> difference isn't it (Please, flame me on this one, I really want someone
+</I>&gt;<i> to take enough offense to this that I hear what makes our distro
+</I>&gt;<i> operationally and technologically different enough to compel someone to
+</I>&gt;<i> adopt)?
+</I>I think that distro's collaboration is a rather good thing indeed such
+as the AppStream project: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/notice/92041870">http://identi.ca/notice/92041870</A> However
+Mageia could do with something proper in the distro that makes it unique
+from all or many other distro's, something much more than the control
+centre. That is worth having for many users, if it's going to have a
+much bigger user base. I remember some of the founders had this idea
+before in 2010 or something like that for a future release.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>Hi
+
+On the 30th March someone started emailing the LUG mailing list that I
+am on, about an event for the local IT and business community that will
+be at one of the universities here. The idea of the event is so that
+the Computer Science department can build up a closer connection with
+the local IT and business community.
+
+It's a event for IT related people such as, developers, web designers,
+business users, hobbyists, DBAs, and SysAdmins.
+
+The event is a workshop where groups can promote them selves, with side
+rooms available as well.
+
+There were replies on the mailing list and I replied as well. I told him
+how I am contributing to Mageia and wanted to build up more interest in
+the project in the local community and so on.
+
+After sending him my requested phone number and then whilst earlier
+talking to him on the phone it was suggested that I did a Lightning talk
+about Mageia.
+
+If I am to do this it will be in front of about 100 people it seems,
+that are university staff and students and people from the local IT and
+business community.
+
+I may have not done a talk before in front of such a big audience, but I
+did do a talk about Tim Berners-Lee, and web standards in front of one
+of my college classes, in 2005/6. So I am not that worried that it will
+be in front of a lot of people. In fact I quite like the idea of doing a
+talk in front of a lot of people :).
+
+I think it would be a very good opportunity and experience for me to go
+to this event and also whilst there to do a Lightning Talk about Mageia.
+So if anyone would like to help me prepare for this talk, please do so.
+
+Oliver told me that he has some slides for a talk he did before that he
+can send me.
+
+At this time I don't know when it will be exactly. I have time to think
+about if I am going to do the talk or not, but I'll probably get back to
+him soon to say that I will do it.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+&gt;<i> At this time I don't know when it will be exactly. I have time to
+</I>&gt;<i> think about if I am going to do the talk or not, but I'll probably
+</I>&gt;<i> get back to him soon to say that I will do it.
+</I>
+This is exactly what we need people to do, so it's great you're
+thinking about it!
+
+If you need CDs to hand out, there should still be some after LinuxTag
+(ennael or Oliver will know where they are) and stickers, so you have
+handouts if you need them. If it's after the release, we need to
+organise new Live CDs anyway.
+
+Keep us posted!
+
+Cheers,
+
+
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+On 01/19/2011 08:53 PM, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote:
+&gt;<i> Helo,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well i write here because i don tknow to who i shuld speak this. Here at
+</I>&gt;<i> Mexico, in fevrier, it will take place Enli 2011 www.enli.org.mx
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I got a conferece to present mageia. I wonder if someone has an already
+</I>&gt;<i> presentation i may translate to spanish to explain people what is mageia,
+</I>&gt;<i> whata are diferences between other distros, and mainly with mandriva. what is
+</I>&gt;<i> our work and what do they can expect. 1 hour of speaking.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> LD
+</I>
+Sebastian,
+
+Luis did his presentation on Mageia at Enli a little over a year ago.
+You may want to solicit him for ideas on it and particulars as to his
+coverage in the matter.
+
+I pulled this from my inbox in the hopes that you and He can get
+together, as he can probably point you towards some of the other
+resources that he drew upon :)
+
+A lightning talk is typically less than 10 minutes, so it should be a
+snap for you. His presentation was much longer and considerably more
+comprehensive than what you're looking to do, considering the time he
+was allotted for his presentation.
+
+I hope that helps!
+
+- --
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+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
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+I'm Teemu Otala from LibreStickers.com (site still under construction).
+LibreStickers.com will be a new webshop where one can purchase reasonable priced Open Source related stickers; *nix like distros, software, databases and programming languages. The selection will depend on the responses/approvals from the trademark/logo owners.
+The idea is to raise the awareness of Open Source software with fashionable small stickers (18x26mm) that developers and users can use to decorate their hardware (mainly laptops).
+The site is commercial, but it is not really about making money; just enough to keep it floating (estimated price for a sticker is around 0.70-1 euros at the moment).
+LibreStickers.com would also contribute 0,10&#8364;/sold sticker back to the project.
+
+I would like to request your permission to use Mageia logo and perhaps text Mageia on a single sticker - see attached file for early draft version.
+The sticker will be the highest possible quality: matt laminated vinyl with quality printing.
+Could you please respond if this request can be approved even partially, and if so what should be changed in the sticker design.
+The idea is to get these ready for LinuxTag2012 in Berlin, I would like to visit Mageia stand to give out some free stickers to the project members. The actual website should be ready by beginning of June 2012.
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+Best Regards,
+
+ Teemu Otala
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+On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 13:58, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">info at librestickers.com</A>
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">info at librestickers.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> The site is commercial, but it is not really about making money; just enough to keep it floating (estimated price for a sticker is around 0.70-1 euros at the moment).
+</I>&gt;<i> LibreStickers.com would also contribute 0,10&#8364;/sold sticker back to the project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to request your permission to use Mageia logo and perhaps text Mageia on a single sticker - see attached file for early draft version.
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>
+Looks good to me. We should have it viewed through artwork as well,
+the layout and quality of the draft seems ok (apart the green border
+but that may be an aterfact). Other input?
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 13:58, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">info at librestickers.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">info at librestickers.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The site is commercial, but it is not really about making money;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; just enough to keep it floating (estimated price for a sticker is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; around 0.70-1 euros at the moment). LibreStickers.com would also
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; contribute 0,10&#8364;/sold sticker back to the project.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I would like to request your permission to use Mageia logo and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; perhaps text Mageia on a single sticker - see attached file for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; early draft version. [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looks good to me. We should have it viewed through artwork as well,
+</I>&gt;<i> the layout and quality of the draft seems ok (apart the green border
+</I>&gt;<i> but that may be an aterfact). Other input?
+</I>
+How are our stocks of stickers we got made for FOSDEM? We might not
+need too many more, ourselves, just now.
+
+It would be good, though, for there to be stickers generally available!
+
+Cheers,
+
+
+--
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+Thu Apr 5 22:37:00 EST 2012
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+&gt;<i> How are our stocks of stickers we got made for FOSDEM? We might not
+</I>&gt;<i> need too many more, ourselves, just now.
+</I>I still have enough of those for the remaining FLOSS events in Germany
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+&gt;<i> Looks good, but maybe change the bottom part from black to something a
+</I>&gt;<i> little lighter?
+</I>&gt;<i> One of our blues?
+</I>
+The darker one then (for contrast). Could you see that with him (suggesting)?
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+As for the formal go, I'd like the point to be raised at the board,
+and to be noticed by council (I'll forward the request) as it's about
+brand management, and there's a financial matter. But we could still
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 19:53, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For the planet, I think a few things needs to be done :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;- define clear rules about what kind of blogs are allowed on planet.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;- define a list of people with admin access on planet, whose role is to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; add the feeds when people request it, or remove feeds which are not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; following the rules
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Damien suggested to put this config in a svn repository with full
+</I>&gt;<i> access. So whatever happens, we know who committed what.
+</I>
+Configuration file look like this :
+<A HREF="http://dpaste.com/727371/">http://dpaste.com/727371/</A>
+
+We can store it somewhere on svn. But I don't know if that's convenient
+to edit. What do marketing team think ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;- define how to request a new blog to be added: I think bugzilla could
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; be used for this. We can add a component in bugzilla for this kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; request if needed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's a planet.mageia.org component (just checked).
+</I>
+Ok, so should we make marketing team default assignee on
+planet.mageia.org component, and update wiki page to say that requests
+should be done on bugzilla in Websites -&gt; planet.mageia.org ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;- Write a wiki page to be linked from planet, with : the rules about
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; allowed blogs on planet, how to request a new blog to be added, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; the list of people with admin access
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets</A>
+</I>
+Ok, I didn't know this page. So now we need to decide who will manage
+those requests, and update planet to show a link to this wiki page ?
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+On 04/05/2012 06:40 AM, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+&gt;<i> Looks good, but maybe change the bottom part from black to something a
+</I>&gt;<i> little lighter?
+</I>&gt;<i> One of our blues?
+</I>
+Yes, as there is an official palette.
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Damien suggested to put this config in a svn repository with full
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; access. So whatever happens, we know who committed what.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Configuration file look like this :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://dpaste.com/727371/">http://dpaste.com/727371/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We can store it somewhere on svn. But I don't know if that's
+</I>&gt;<i> convenient to edit. What do marketing team think ?
+</I>
+This look okay to you?
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &#160;- Write a wiki page to be linked from planet, with : the rules
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; about allowed blogs on planet, how to request a new blog to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; added, and the list of people with admin access
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Here: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, I didn't know this page. So now we need to decide who will manage
+</I>&gt;<i> those requests, and update planet to show a link to this wiki page ?
+</I>
+That would be us (marcom), in particular Josh who has kindly taken this
+on - thanks Josh!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+&gt;<i> On 04/05/2012 06:54 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi Josh,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Damien suggested to put this config in a svn repository with full
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; access. So whatever happens, we know who committed what.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Configuration file look like this :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://dpaste.com/727371/">http://dpaste.com/727371/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; We can store it somewhere on svn. But I don't know if that's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; convenient to edit. What do marketing team think ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This look okay to you?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; - Write a wiki page to be linked from planet, with : the rules
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; about allowed blogs on planet, how to request a new blog to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; added, and the list of people with admin access
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Here: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Ok, I didn't know this page. So now we need to decide who will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; manage those requests, and update planet to show a link to this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; wiki page ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That would be us (marcom), in particular Josh who has kindly taken
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this on - thanks Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That looks fine to me, but moonmoom already has a similar file in
+</I>&gt;<i> place. I'm not sure I understand the need for committing it to svn?
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, where is the svn repo located and who will have commit rights?
+</I>
+Just sending this back to the list - don't know the answer, sorry!
+
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+ <B>Josh King (dotmil)</B>
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+<PRE>Hi All,
+
+After a lengthy absence, it's time to update the planets again. The
+guidelines for having your blog added can be found at the following wiki
+page: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets.">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets.</A> We want them to be full of
+those who make Mageia what it is ahead of the 2 launch. This doesn't
+need to be only developers or major team members, because we *all* are
+Mageia.
+
+For now, until a more formal process is in place, please just send me
+your name, and a link to your blog. The blogs should primarily be
+related to Mageia and/or Free Software and are expected to comply with
+the Mageia Code of Conduct (<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/</A>)
+
+Any questions or comments please reply to this message or email me
+directly. We would also eventually like to come up with a better overall
+design for the planets, so if you are someone who is web design
+inclined, please also contact me.
+
+Thanks!
+--
+IRC: dotmil
+Skype: linuxpunk1
+AIM: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>
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+<PRE>On 05/04/12, Patricia Fraser typed:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you need CDs to hand out, there should still be some after LinuxTag
+</I>&gt;<i> (ennael or Oliver will know where they are) and stickers, so you have
+</I>&gt;<i> handouts if you need them. If it's after the release, we need to
+</I>&gt;<i> organise new Live CDs anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Keep us posted!
+</I>Earlier I emailed saying that I would like to do the talk.
+
+It seems that the event will be on Saturday 19th May, which does not
+leave that much time to have official Mageia 2 Live CD's made and sent
+to myself from abroad. Since the release is now going to be on Tuesday
+15th May instead (,unless delayed again which it probably won't be).
+
+I could try giving away Mageia 1 CD's at the event if more are sent, but
+I think giving away Mageia 2 will be much better.
+
+I wouldn't mind having stickers sent to give out at the event and LUG.
+
+Also it would be good to have papers with official information about
+Mageia in English that can be given to people at events and LUG's for
+example. At FOSDEM 2012 there was, but in French (and I came back home
+with two anyway). Of course this is probably really a task for Marcom.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<PRE>Hi Seb,
+
+&gt;<i> Earlier I emailed saying that I would like to do the talk.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems that the event will be on Saturday 19th May, which does not
+</I>&gt;<i> leave that much time to have official Mageia 2 Live CD's made and
+</I>&gt;<i> sent to myself from abroad. Since the release is now going to be on
+</I>&gt;<i> Tuesday 15th May instead (,unless delayed again which it probably
+</I>&gt;<i> won't be).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I could try giving away Mageia 1 CD's at the event if more are sent,
+</I>&gt;<i> but I think giving away Mageia 2 will be much better.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wouldn't mind having stickers sent to give out at the event and LUG.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also it would be good to have papers with official information about
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia in English that can be given to people at events and LUG's for
+</I>&gt;<i> example. At FOSDEM 2012 there was, but in French (and I came back
+</I>&gt;<i> home with two anyway). Of course this is probably really a task for
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcom.
+</I>
+Okay, so contact Oliver or ennael about getting the stickers, and let
+us have a look at what you're going to present! Do you know if they'll
+have video or something afterwards, that we can look at and link to?
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Fri Apr 6 13:37:37 EST 2012
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+<PRE>On 05/04/12 09:32, Bradley D. Thornton wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 01/19/2011 08:53 PM, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Helo,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well i write here because i don tknow to who i shuld speak this. Here at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mexico, in fevrier, it will take place Enli 2011 www.enli.org.mx
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I got a conferece to present mageia. I wonder if someone has an already
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> presentation i may translate to spanish to explain people what is mageia,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whata are diferences between other distros, and mainly with mandriva. what is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> our work and what do they can expect. 1 hour of speaking.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> LD
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Luis did his presentation on Mageia at Enli a little over a year ago.
+</I>&gt;<i> You may want to solicit him for ideas on it and particulars as to his
+</I>&gt;<i> coverage in the matter.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I pulled this from my inbox in the hopes that you and He can get
+</I>&gt;<i> together, as he can probably point you towards some of the other
+</I>&gt;<i> resources that he drew upon :)
+</I>Ok thanks, but you didn't provide the email address. However I guess I
+can get that from the archive anyway.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A lightning talk is typically less than 10 minutes, so it should be a
+</I>&gt;<i> snap for you. His presentation was much longer and considerably more
+</I>&gt;<i> comprehensive than what you're looking to do, considering the time he
+</I>&gt;<i> was allotted for his presentation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I hope that helps!
+</I>I think really going by the phone call I had, that he wanted me to do a
+longer talk. However then I said how I hadn't done this kind of thing
+before, so the Lightning talk got suggested.
+
+Indeed Lightning talks are short about 15 minutes or so, and so topics
+have to be quick and to the point, especially if going to leave any time
+for questions.
+
+A Lightning talk is usually a summary or something like that I think, of
+a project at an event for example, and as you would probably expect the
+Lightning talks will be at the end of this event.
+
+Knowing me once I got started and feeling comfortable enough I would
+probably want more than 15 minutes or so really. I mean I talked about
+Desktop Linux and so on, with someone for three hours and a bit when I
+went on a podcast for my first time last year for example. Of course
+that's different since it was done on the computer.
+
+Also when I did that talk about Tim Berners-Lee and web standards in
+2005 in front of one of my college classes, it was only meant to be
+about 10 minutes, but was 20 or so.
+
+It seems that I could do a longer talk or presentation and a lightning talk.
+
+I'll email more about this event soon, once I have found out a bit more.
+Currently waiting for another email reply from him.
+
+I thought about it earlier, but I would actually want the talk/s I am
+doing to be recorded, so that I can watch it myself, and show lot's of
+people, well if I am happy enough with it :). Not told the person
+organising the event this yet, but something that can be done later on.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+</PRE>
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After a lengthy absence, it's time to update the planets again.
+</I>Welcome back :).
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+ <B>Josh King (dotmil)</B>
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+<PRE>On 04/05/2012 11:01 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 06/04/12 02:09, Josh King (dotmil) typed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi All,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> After a lengthy absence, it's time to update the planets again.
+</I>&gt;<i> Welcome back :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks sebsebseb:-) Good to be back
+
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+On 04/05/2012 08:53 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 05/04/12 09:32, Bradley D. Thornton wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Luis did his presentation on Mageia at Enli a little over a year ago.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You may want to solicit him for ideas on it and particulars as to his
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> coverage in the matter.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I pulled this from my inbox in the hopes that you and He can get
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> together, as he can probably point you towards some of the other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> resources that he drew upon :)
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Ok thanks, but you didn't provide the email address. However I guess I
+</I>&gt;<i> can get that from the archive anyway.
+</I>
+Oh you're right. the listserver scrubbed his direct email addy from the
+cc line.
+
+Yeah it's in the archives, and I'm not sure if he's still subscribed to
+the list here or not.
+
+Regardless, it looks like you're making good headway anyway.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed Lightning talks are short about 15 minutes or so, and so topics
+</I>&gt;<i> have to be quick and to the point, especially if going to leave any time
+</I>&gt;<i> for questions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes that's the beauty, and the bane of it. If you really want to just
+jam it out in Toastmaster fashion and rehearse it, it works.
+
+But if it takes a few minutes for you to warm up and you like to work
+from notes as opposed to a rehearsed speach you'll prolly find that just
+around the time you're getting warmed up and having fun your time is up
+already :(
+
+
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 02:22, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> That looks fine to me, but moonmoom already has a similar file in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> place. I'm not sure I understand the need for committing it to svn?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also, where is the svn repo located and who will have commit rights?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just sending this back to the list - don't know the answer, sorry!
+</I>
+That's the very same file. The use of having it in svn would be to
+know what was changed and when (and why, in the commit message). It
+would allow to have several persons able to edit this config, whereas
+through moonmoon, there is only one admin account.
+
+It would be located in the web svn repository
+(<A HREF="http://svn.mageia.org/web/">http://svn.mageia.org/web/</A>) so commit rights would be those of the
+Web team, and you would of course get this right.
+
+But the right solution is the one that fits best those in charge of
+the planets (there are several, not only English one): up to you.
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+<PRE>On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 19:24, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> There's a planet.mageia.org component (just checked).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, so should we make marketing team default assignee on
+</I>&gt;<i> planet.mageia.org component, and update wiki page to say that requests
+</I>&gt;<i> should be done on bugzilla in Websites -&gt; planet.mageia.org ?
+</I>
+Yep. Josh, agree with that?
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;- Write a wiki page to be linked from planet, with : the rules about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; allowed blogs on planet, how to request a new blog to be added, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; the list of people with admin access
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, I didn't know this page. So now we need to decide who will manage
+</I>&gt;<i> those requests, and update planet to show a link to this wiki page ?
+</I>
+Either that, or we move the page very content in the planet side bar,
+so everything is self contained. Either way, it will help that the
+planets source code is sourced from our svn (and we can maintain a
+branch of it against upstream).
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+<PRE>On 04/06/2012 01:23 AM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 06 april 2012 06:14:50 schreef Josh King (dotmil):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do Mageia Xen Images exist anywhere yet? I have a company I work closely
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with who is considering offering them as part of their VPS lineup. But 2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> questions, first do they exist and second, would there be any demand?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any inputs on either are greatly appreciated.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> do you mean dom0 host support? or guest support?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> normal kernels should all have guest support, so you can easily install them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> unless you mean some prebuild mageia image files?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i donno if there would be demand, but you can build an image yourself if you
+</I>&gt;<i> want.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Sorry I wasn't clear. I'm looking for guest support, and was hoping
+someone had already built one. I have a company that would be wiling to
+provide Xen guests for VPS's, but is undermanned and cannot dedicate
+resources to building one that could be easily deployed.
+
+While I could go ahead and create a guest, I guess I'm wondering if
+there are any special requirements ffor such a guest so it can be
+re-used by other hosting companies (hopefully).
+
+Thanks!
+
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+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry I wasn't clear. I'm looking for guest support, and was hoping
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> someone had already built one. I have a company that would be wiling to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> provide Xen guests for VPS's, but is undermanned and cannot dedicate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> resources to building one that could be easily deployed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> While I could go ahead and create a guest, I guess I'm wondering if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there are any special requirements ffor such a guest so it can be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> re-used by other hosting companies (hopefully).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i don't think anything special is required, the necessary guest drivers and
+</I>&gt;<i> xen specific stuff should already be in standard kernel/standard install
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i would think an install from iso/network should be easily doable and you
+</I>&gt;<i> won't loose that much time with it...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That's kind of what I'm thinking. The question is how are these
+redistributable? I hope someone who more Xen-foo than I can shed some
+light on how we could make these readily available to be added as domU
+images, or is there such a need?
+
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+Maybe Mageia could have a bi-weekly or monthly Google Plus Hangout.
+You know, just so that everybody who communicates on email and IRC can once
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+&gt;<i> I was just thinking about this...
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe Mageia could have a bi-weekly or monthly Google Plus Hangout.
+</I>&gt;<i> You know, just so that everybody who communicates on email and IRC
+</I>&gt;<i> can once in a while get see each other, help community building and
+</I>&gt;<i> all that. I'm sure Seb could explain better.
+</I>
+This is a very neat idea, Max! I'm not sure whether my bandwidth would
+be up to it, but I'll give it a go. Maybe we could try it instead of an
+IRC meeting one time?
+
+Cheers!
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+I'm planning on spending some time in the next 18 hours putting some
+work in on the sandbox. Please join in!
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+We'd promised to have some text ready for the Council meeting, but I'm
+not quite sure what we need to write for the website - do you have
+anything more that we can look at?
+
+Cheers!
+
+&gt;<i> Hi there, (please followup the discussion in mageia-marketing, not in
+</I>&gt;<i> -artwork or -webteam)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> here's a peak at one possible option for Mageia 2 release Web site
+</I>&gt;<i> update (not full at once, but for most important pages, and driving
+</I>&gt;<i> other pages into that direction too).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The rationale behind this update is articulated as such:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A) the home page (mageia.org/) is targetted at one-time/first
+</I>&gt;<i> time/casual visitors, with a single, main call to action: download
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia. There are others actions, such as: contribute, get older
+</I>&gt;<i> version(s), learn more about the product, and the community and the
+</I>&gt;<i> project. But there is no other navigation. It's really a poster-like
+</I>&gt;<i> page, direct to a main action, with the following main channel for
+</I>&gt;<i> visitors:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - home =&gt; action 1: get the software
+</I>&gt;<i> - download =&gt; action 1: select your download
+</I>&gt;<i> - while-downloading =&gt; actions: how to use, how to contribute, learn
+</I>&gt;<i> more about Mageia, what feedback you could provide
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Pushing this page calls for updating the Downloads index page design
+</I>&gt;<i> as well as the post-download page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> B) a dedicated, community home page is for people coming back again
+</I>&gt;<i> and again (contributors, activ users) with three main incoming
+</I>&gt;<i> sources:
+</I>&gt;<i> - start.mageia.org (loaded by Mageia browsers)
+</I>&gt;<i> - a mageia.org/coop or another keyword.
+</I>&gt;<i> - home page lower priority action (see bottom nav links
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Community&quot;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here go: news, calendar, teams, docs, and links to the various
+</I>&gt;<i> resources/tools on mageia.org in an organized way.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> C) for past-home page pages, a new top navigation bar, organizing
+</I>&gt;<i> more of the site and making it more accessible from everywhere;
+</I>&gt;<i> especially, for easier embedding/deployment/update of it, the navbar
+</I>&gt;<i> will be available in different fashion: a dynamic Web service will
+</I>&gt;<i> produce the needed HTML/JS for it, and a JS snippet will allow to
+</I>&gt;<i> dynamically insert it into all sites (so there's little integration
+</I>&gt;<i> work). The top navigation bar exact content is still up to debate, but
+</I>&gt;<i> the very top categories should not exceed 5/6 entries at most.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A, B and C are not strongly attached to each other, however they are
+</I>&gt;<i> part of the same proposal. There's a missing download page (and
+</I>&gt;<i> animation) from A page, but that's a start to go.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A (home page) is <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/7Vqq6.png">http://i.imgur.com/7Vqq6.png</A> . It's a bold move for
+</I>&gt;<i> us. It's heavily inspired from a Firefox page which is a nice example
+</I>&gt;<i> of a product landing page. From a charter point of view, it reuses the
+</I>&gt;<i> white/blue gradient from our original logo and site elements. It may
+</I>&gt;<i> benefit from a very light, thin pattern in the blue background, or not
+</I>&gt;<i> (not sure). Text copy may need tweaks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> B (community page) is ... still pending, I'm not satisfied with what I
+</I>&gt;<i> have so far. We have <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/contribute/">http://www.mageia.org/contribute/</A> but I'm not
+</I>&gt;<i> sure to change this one right now. Hope to have something to roll out
+</I>&gt;<i> for review next week.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> C (global nav) is ... pending too. I will roll it out for testing
+</I>&gt;<i> later this week. What it needs is to refine its structure; currently
+</I>&gt;<i> planned is:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * Mageia (links to a special map page of the site)
+</I>&gt;<i> * About Us: mageia project info/history &amp; mageia.org organization
+</I>&gt;<i> info, what is under <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/about/">http://mageia.org/en/about/</A> already
+</I>&gt;<i> * Downloads:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mageia 1 and 2 downloads and features pages,
+</I>&gt;<i> - updates downloads info and mirrors
+</I>&gt;<i> - mirrors
+</I>&gt;<i> - specific software (we used to host a specific mgaonline package
+</I>&gt;<i> for)
+</I>&gt;<i> * Community:
+</I>&gt;<i> - news (blogs, planets, other?), calendar
+</I>&gt;<i> - introduction to contributing
+</I>&gt;<i> - forums, mailing-lists, IRC
+</I>&gt;<i> - wiki, bugzilla, other doc resources
+</I>&gt;<i> - contributors corners
+</I>&gt;<i> * Support: current <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/support/">http://www.mageia.org/en/support/</A> page
+</I>&gt;<i> redispatched:
+</I>&gt;<i> - users support: community and commercial vendors
+</I>&gt;<i> - (security) updates info
+</I>&gt;<i> - product lifecycle
+</I>&gt;<i> - hardware stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> * Contribute: necessary? as a short link to the contributors guide
+</I>&gt;<i> * About You: not available for now, maybe moved somewhere else, but
+</I>&gt;<i> supported by identity and other mageia.org services, would act as a
+</I>&gt;<i> portal for every single user, to monitor her own activity/data.
+</I>&gt;<i> * Search (over mageia.org domain)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This new nav answer three concerns:
+</I>&gt;<i> - /platform: allow an easier, consistent deployment of the top nav
+</I>&gt;<i> updates through all mageia.org; using here a javascript snippet;
+</I>&gt;<i> - /layout: embed the Mageia logo in the navigation bar, so that it
+</I>&gt;<i> too brands the page to the project;
+</I>&gt;<i> - /content: better structure the mageia.org domain into main
+</I>&gt;<i> activities/zones.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know that some may worry that some links currently in the top nav
+</I>&gt;<i> bar won't be available/visible anymore in all mageia.org as a first
+</I>&gt;<i> level item. It's a matter of context and of the very details of the
+</I>&gt;<i> implementation and the navigation channels.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't have a B plan about that at this time, but it's not mandatory
+</I>&gt;<i> to change all things either. So it either works, or it doesn't.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note that (for a future/long term question), separating what is about
+</I>&gt;<i> the product (Features, Downloads, Support, News) from what is about
+</I>&gt;<i> the project/community (About Us, Community, part of Support,
+</I>&gt;<i> Contribute) would help a lot (different life cycles for the sites),
+</I>&gt;<i> but it needs to have a separate name for each too.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
+
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+Mon Apr 9 10:48:47 EST 2012
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+I had promised that we'd have a first draft of the release texts ready
+for inspection at this meeting, but: we're not there yet.
+
+For the website, Romain will be updating marcom on the structure this
+week, when we can get to work on that. For the blog post - too easy, we
+can put that together very quickly. The only other one which might take
+a bit of work is the press release, which I'm hoping we can get some
+input from council members as to what people would like to see in the
+release - then it will take shape very quickly.
+
+So, see you at the meeting, if everyone's not stunned with chocolate...
+
+Cheers!
+
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+Mon Apr 9 21:54:53 EST 2012
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+<PRE>I won' t make it tonight. At the time of tge meeting i will most likely be
+on the road...
+
+Happy easter,
+Oliver
+On 09.04.2012 13:58, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I had promised that we'd have a first draft of the release texts ready
+</I>&gt;<i> for inspection at this meeting, but: we're not there yet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the website, Romain will be updating marcom on the structure this
+</I>&gt;<i> week, when we can get to work on that. For the blog post - too easy, we
+</I>&gt;<i> can put that together very quickly. The only other one which might take
+</I>&gt;<i> a bit of work is the press release, which I'm hoping we can get some
+</I>&gt;<i> input from council members as to what people would like to see in the
+</I>&gt;<i> release - then it will take shape very quickly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, see you at the meeting, if everyone's not stunned with chocolate...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+</I>&gt;<i> -35.67896, 142.66637
+</I>&gt;<i> Mon Apr 9 21:54:53 EST 2012
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+
+Has anyone done any writing towards these?
+
+We absolutely must have the first draft ready to show council on Monday
+16th, and the deadline for completion is 23 April, so we need to get
+cracking.
+
+Check on the wiki sandbox to see what's needed, and please say when you
+can be online to collaborate on a piratepad or wherever, sometime over
+the weekend - times in UTC please.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>I have looked at the sandbox a few times, but I don't know what is
+needed exactly for the release texts, as in what is meant to be typed.
+
+A Piratepad is a good idea so we can work on it together. In general
+evening's UK time are a good time for me, not this evening though for
+example since going out.
+
+Currently UK is on BST, instead of UTC/GMT so one hour a head of that.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+I don't remember whether it's our turn or artwork's, but whichever it
+is I won't be around - I'll be without internet access for a couple of
+days.
+
+Please do go and scribble something in the Sandbox... 8-)
+
+Cheers,
+
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Wed Apr 18 07:05:52 EST 2012
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+ <B>Sebastian</B>
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+
+I only get 5 minutes for the Mageia Lightning Talk. So any help would be
+appreciated for the talk as a whole, from how I will introduce myself,
+what I will say about Mageia, to how I will end the talk. However I have
+some ideas for this.
+
+I would like some help making some slides for the talk and I would also
+appreciate having help in creating a talk description for the event
+website: <A HREF="http://www.itmegameet.co.uk/">http://www.itmegameet.co.uk/</A>
+
+The event won't be like FOSDEM where certain talks get recorded. As a
+result mine won't be recorded and put online, unless I can get someone
+from the audience to record it for me. However I can probably get
+someone from the audience to record it for me on their mobile phone for
+example, but the quality of the video may not be that good as a result
+if that.
+
+It also seems that some people from other parts of the UK that I know
+online who use or know about Mageia may come to the event as well to see
+my talk. Some people from my LUG may be at the event as well.
+
+Since the event is a few days after the Mageia 2 release if certain
+people are coming I plan to book a restaurant as well for the evening
+and celebrate the Mageia 2 release for example :).
+
+With Ubuntu they have release parties after a new final version has been
+released: <A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/RunningReleaseParty">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/RunningReleaseParty</A>
+
+There won't be a Mageia side room or stand at the event, but hopefully I
+can be sent official Mageia 2 CD's that I can take with me in a bag and
+stickers as well. Also I did contact Oliver about this before.
+
+With official Mageia 2 CD's there wouldn't be much time to make and then
+send them from abroad so that I have them on Saturday 19th May, since
+the Tuesday 15th May release.
+
+ From Sebastian
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+Hard disk crashed yesterday, so if anyone sent mails to me in the
+last 24 hours - please resend!
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20See%20package%20changes%20between%20Mageia%201%20and%20Mageia%0A%092%20by%20using%20Mageia%20App%20Db&In-Reply-To=%3C201204251608.14284.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db">stormi at laposte.net
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+ <I>Wed Apr 25 16:08:14 CEST 2012</I>
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+
+Just in case it can help you in your task of promoting Mageia 2, here is a
+link to get a comparison between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2.
+
+* new packages are in green background
+* updated packages in white background
+
+<A HREF="http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/source/1/application/0">http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/source/1/application/0</A>
+
+This shows source packages. The &quot;show only applications&quot; and &quot;regular
+packages&quot; led me to some SQL errors I must investigate, so meanwhile I
+advise to not use them on this page.
+
+The group filter should work fine, for example here is the same page for games
+only:
+
+<A HREF="http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0/group/78%2C20%2C64%2C10%2C30%2C46%2C74%2C1/source/1">http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0/group/78%2C20%2C64%2C10%2C30%2C46%2C74%2C1/source/1</A>
+
+(It's still a demo instance for Mageia App Db, it's not running on Mageia
+servers yet)
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
+</PRE>
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+
+&gt;<i> Just in case it can help you in your task of promoting Mageia 2, here
+</I>&gt;<i> is a link to get a comparison between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2.
+</I>
+Brilliant - this is very helpful, thanks!
+
+--
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+
+just wanted to drop a note that Release Notes needs an
+update for the newly added, really beautiful and partly animated
+Mageia E17 themes, made by Agust, which can be seen at
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2061">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2061</A>
+I could do a draft, but i'd prefer if that could be done by someone
+who's more used to marketing'ish / advertising writing stuff,
+because i totally suck at that.
+
+An important point is that those themes are for now
+exclusive to Mageia, and created by a Mageia user, who
+recently joined forces with artwork team, IIRC.
+
+
+Kind Regards
+
+
+PS: resent after subscribing to the list
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+&gt;<i> On 04/05/2012 06:40 AM, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Looks good, but maybe change the bottom part from black to something
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> little lighter?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> One of our blues?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, as there is an official palette.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kindest regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> - --
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+Sorry for the slow answer. Thank you very much for excellent feedback.
+
+The official palette would be excellent but as the 'mageia' text uses
+the whole palette (text and dot on top of letter 'i') it would actually
+mask part of the text nevertheless what palette variant
+(<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/charter.html">http://www.mageia.org/en/charter.html</A>) is used.
+
+Therefore it looks like the official palette is a bit tricky leaving us
+with four options to choose from:
+1) Leave the bottom background totally off
+(<A HREF="http://librestickers.com/mageia/mageia2.png">http://librestickers.com/mageia/mageia2.png</A>)
+2) Add a line and text 'Powered by' that both utilize the official
+palette (<A HREF="http://librestickers.com/mageia/mageia.png">http://librestickers.com/mageia/mageia.png</A>)
+3) Alter the mageia text palette to unofficial
+4) Use just some lighter official palette like color
+
+The sticker size is 18mm wide and 26mm high.
+The sticker background color is Satin White (matte) which is suitable
+for all options listed above.
+There is also a chance of using brushed aluminium background sticker
+which is very elegant and works nicely with options 1 and 2.
+One open question is also that should there be a text TM (unregistered
+trademark) following the logo and/or text (as for example Arch Linux
+prefers)?
+
+If everything goes as planned these will go for printing by the end of
+next week and will be ready for distribution by 20th of May...
+Hopefully.
+
+Regards,
+ Teemu
+
+P.S. Still planning to visit LinuxTag2012 and bring a stack of these to
+Mageia stand plus there will be the 0,10e/sold sticker (from the coming
+online shop) to the project (10-14% of the actual selling price)
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+&gt;<i> Therefore it looks like the official palette is a bit tricky leaving us with
+</I>&gt;<i> four options to choose from:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) Leave the bottom background totally off
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://librestickers.com/mageia/mageia2.png">http://librestickers.com/mageia/mageia2.png</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) Add a line and text 'Powered by' that both utilize the official palette
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://librestickers.com/mageia/mageia.png">http://librestickers.com/mageia/mageia.png</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) Alter the mageia text palette to unofficial
+</I>&gt;<i> 4) Use just some lighter official palette like color
+</I>
+1 or 2 look good (right colors, good contrast). 3 is not an option.
+I'm not sure 4 would bring something better.
+
+&gt;<i> One open question is also that should there be a text TM (unregistered
+</I>&gt;<i> trademark) following the logo and/or text (as for example Arch Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> prefers)?
+</I>
+No.
+
+&gt;<i> If everything goes as planned these will go for printing by the end of next
+</I>&gt;<i> week and will be ready for distribution by 20th of May... Hopefully.
+</I>
+Cool.
+
+&gt;<i> P.S. Still planning to visit LinuxTag2012 and bring a stack of these to
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia stand plus there will be the 0,10e/sold sticker (from the coming
+</I>&gt;<i> online shop) to the project (10-14% of the actual selling price)
+</I>
+Excellent. I know that at least ennael, boklm and obgr will be at LinuxTag.
+
+Thanks.
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+<PRE>Am 27.04.2012 20:27, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> just wanted to drop a note that Release Notes needs an
+</I>&gt;<i> update for the newly added, really beautiful and partly animated
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia E17 themes, made by Agust, which can be seen at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2061">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2061</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> I could do a draft, but i'd prefer if that could be done by someone
+</I>&gt;<i> who's more used to marketing'ish / advertising writing stuff,
+</I>&gt;<i> because i totally suck at that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> An important point is that those themes are for now
+</I>&gt;<i> exclusive to Mageia, and created by a Mageia user, who
+</I>&gt;<i> recently joined forces with artwork team, IIRC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kind Regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: resent after subscribing to the list
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Uhmm - ping?
+As release is approaching, we should get release notes ready.
+
+
+
+/OT: Are there some mageia shirts left over from previous events?
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 06 april 2012 16:23:44 schreef Josh King (dotmil):
+&gt;<i> On 04/06/2012 01:23 AM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op vrijdag 06 april 2012 06:14:50 schreef Josh King (dotmil):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Do Mageia Xen Images exist anywhere yet? I have a company I work closely
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; with who is considering offering them as part of their VPS lineup. But 2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; questions, first do they exist and second, would there be any demand?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Any inputs on either are greatly appreciated.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; do you mean dom0 host support? or guest support?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; normal kernels should all have guest support, so you can easily install
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; them.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; unless you mean some prebuild mageia image files?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i donno if there would be demand, but you can build an image yourself if
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you want.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry I wasn't clear. I'm looking for guest support, and was hoping
+</I>&gt;<i> someone had already built one. I have a company that would be wiling to
+</I>&gt;<i> provide Xen guests for VPS's, but is undermanned and cannot dedicate
+</I>&gt;<i> resources to building one that could be easily deployed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While I could go ahead and create a guest, I guess I'm wondering if
+</I>&gt;<i> there are any special requirements ffor such a guest so it can be
+</I>&gt;<i> re-used by other hosting companies (hopefully).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks!
+</I>
+i don't think anything special is required, the necessary guest drivers and
+xen specific stuff should already be in standard kernel/standard install
+
+i would think an install from iso/network should be easily doable and you
+won't loose that much time with it...
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+[...]
+&gt;<i> That's kind of what I'm thinking. The question is how are these
+</I>&gt;<i> redistributable? I hope someone who more Xen-foo than I can shed some
+</I>&gt;<i> light on how we could make these readily available to be added as domU
+</I>&gt;<i> images, or is there such a need?
+</I>
+well, depending on how you usually do this for the VPS offering...
+
+A) you could do a kickstart install depending on parameters
+
+B) or just install once, copy it as a template and whenever needed, you can
+copy this image and make the necessary password changes.
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+ <H1>[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes</H1>
+ <B>Florian Hubold</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Release%20notes%20update%20needed%20-%20E17%20themes&In-Reply-To=%3C4F99B09B.8030003%40arcor.de%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes">doktor5000 at arcor.de
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Thu Apr 26 22:31:29 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+just wanted to drop a note that Release Notes needs an
+update for the newly added, really beautiful and partly animated
+Mageia E17 themes, made by Agust, which can be seen at
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2061">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2061</A>
+I could do a draft, but i'd prefer if that could be done by someone
+who's more used to marketing'ish / advertising writing stuff,
+because i totally suck at that.
+
+An important point is that those themes are for now
+exclusive to Mageia, and created by a Mageia user, who
+recently joined forces with artwork team, IIRC.
+
+PS: I'm not subscribed to the list, so please make sure you
+use &quot;Reply to All&quot; function so i'll also get follow-up mails.
+
+Kind Regards
+</PRE>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Apr 2 10:42:00 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Apr 30 21:28:50 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 94<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000836.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000841.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000845.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000846.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000830.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000852.html">[Mageia-marketing] First draft of release texts
+</A><A NAME="852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000775.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000777.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000801.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000802.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000803.html">[Mageia-marketing] Priorities, who's doing what and what's next
+</A><A NAME="803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000804.html">[Mageia-marketing] Space on Mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000806.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000809.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000824.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000828.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000834.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000835.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000838.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000848.html">[Mageia-marketing] Here's a thought....
+</A><A NAME="848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000849.html">[Mageia-marketing] Texts for release
+</A><A NAME="849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000850.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 Web site changes option
+</A><A NAME="850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000851.html">[Mageia-marketing] First draft of release texts
+</A><A NAME="851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000853.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts...
+</A><A NAME="853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000855.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week
+</A><A NAME="855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000857.html">[Mageia-marketing] Emails lost yesterday
+</A><A NAME="857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000859.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000931.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000860.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000863.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000773.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Design for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000774.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Design for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000794.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000807.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000829.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000847.html">[Mageia-marketing] Here's a thought....
+</A><A NAME="847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000856.html">[Mageia-marketing] Saturday 19th May 2012
+</A><A NAME="856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000805.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000791.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000789.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000784.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000783.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000788.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000792.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000785.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000790.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000780.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000786.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000787.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000781.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000782.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000793.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000799.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000798.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000800.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000825.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000833.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000842.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000929.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000930.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000858.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000795.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000796.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000797.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000808.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 Web site changes option
+</A><A NAME="808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000820.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000827.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000831.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000843.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000844.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000862.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Re: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000826.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>info at librestickers.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000861.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Re: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>info at librestickers.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000776.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000778.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000779.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000810.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000811.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000812.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000813.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000814.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000815.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000816.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000817.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000819.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000821.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000822.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000823.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000837.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000839.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000840.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000854.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts...
+</A><A NAME="854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000818.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000832.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Apr 30 21:28:50 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:14:29 CEST 2012</i>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Apr 2 10:42:00 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Apr 30 21:28:50 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 94<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000773.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Design for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000774.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Design for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000775.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000776.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000777.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000778.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000779.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000791.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000789.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000784.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000783.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000788.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000792.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000785.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000790.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000780.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000786.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000787.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000781.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000782.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000793.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000794.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000795.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000796.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000797.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000799.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000798.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000800.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000801.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000802.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000803.html">[Mageia-marketing] Priorities, who's doing what and what's next
+</A><A NAME="803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000804.html">[Mageia-marketing] Space on Mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000805.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000806.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000807.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000808.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 Web site changes option
+</A><A NAME="808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000809.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000810.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000811.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000812.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000813.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000814.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000815.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000816.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000817.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000818.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000819.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000820.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000821.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000822.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000823.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000824.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000825.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000826.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>info at librestickers.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000827.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000828.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000829.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000830.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000831.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000832.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000833.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000834.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000835.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000836.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000837.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000838.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000839.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000840.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000841.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000842.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000843.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000844.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000845.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000929.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000846.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000930.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000847.html">[Mageia-marketing] Here's a thought....
+</A><A NAME="847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000848.html">[Mageia-marketing] Here's a thought....
+</A><A NAME="848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000849.html">[Mageia-marketing] Texts for release
+</A><A NAME="849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000850.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 Web site changes option
+</A><A NAME="850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000851.html">[Mageia-marketing] First draft of release texts
+</A><A NAME="851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000852.html">[Mageia-marketing] First draft of release texts
+</A><A NAME="852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000853.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts...
+</A><A NAME="853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000854.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts...
+</A><A NAME="854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000855.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week
+</A><A NAME="855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000856.html">[Mageia-marketing] Saturday 19th May 2012
+</A><A NAME="856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000857.html">[Mageia-marketing] Emails lost yesterday
+</A><A NAME="857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000858.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000931.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000859.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000860.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000861.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Re: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>info at librestickers.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000862.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Re: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000863.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Apr 30 21:28:50 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:14:29 CEST 2012</i>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>April 2012 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Apr 2 10:42:00 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Apr 30 21:28:50 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 94<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000773.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Design for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000774.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Design for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000845.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000929.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000846.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000930.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000806.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000785.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000817.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000857.html">[Mageia-marketing] Emails lost yesterday
+</A><A NAME="857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000851.html">[Mageia-marketing] First draft of release texts
+</A><A NAME="851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000852.html">[Mageia-marketing] First draft of release texts
+</A><A NAME="852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000794.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000795.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000798.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000805.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000807.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000775.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000776.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000777.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000778.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000786.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000802.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000861.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Re: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>info at librestickers.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000862.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Re: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000788.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000815.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000847.html">[Mageia-marketing] Here's a thought....
+</A><A NAME="847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000848.html">[Mageia-marketing] Here's a thought....
+</A><A NAME="848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000792.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000810.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000816.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000790.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000782.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000809.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000808.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 Web site changes option
+</A><A NAME="808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000850.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 Web site changes option
+</A><A NAME="850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000825.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000839.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000842.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000823.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000824.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000837.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000838.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000793.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000797.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000799.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000784.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000855.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week
+</A><A NAME="855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000779.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000789.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000783.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000780.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000796.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000800.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000801.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000811.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000812.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000819.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000836.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000840.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000841.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000787.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000821.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000822.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000791.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000813.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000814.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000803.html">[Mageia-marketing] Priorities, who's doing what and what's next
+</A><A NAME="803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000826.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>info at librestickers.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000827.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000828.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000829.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000830.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000831.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000833.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000931.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000860.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000863.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000853.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts...
+</A><A NAME="853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000854.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts...
+</A><A NAME="854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000856.html">[Mageia-marketing] Saturday 19th May 2012
+</A><A NAME="856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000858.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000859.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000804.html">[Mageia-marketing] Space on Mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000849.html">[Mageia-marketing] Texts for release
+</A><A NAME="849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000781.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000818.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000820.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000832.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000834.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000835.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000843.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000844.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Apr 30 21:28:50 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:14:29 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <h1>April 2012 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Apr 2 10:42:00 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Apr 30 21:28:50 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 94<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01333356120- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000773.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Design for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333356120-01333356437- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000774.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Design for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333399815- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000775.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333399815-01333400187- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000776.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333399815-01333400187-01333401511- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000777.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333399815-01333400187-01333401511-01333401737- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000778.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01333399815-01333441064- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000786.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333399815-01333441064-01333442528- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000794.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333399815-01333441064-01333442528-01333443067- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000795.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333399815-01333441064-01333442528-01333443067-01333451844- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000802.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333399815-01333441064-01333442528-01333443067-01333451844-01333457643- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000805.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333399815-01333441064-01333442528-01333443067-01333451844-01333457643-01333466010- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000807.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333399815-01333441064-01333442528-01333446229- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000798.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fw: [Mageia-artwork] Last round of background discussions
+</A><A NAME="798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333414406- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000779.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333440921- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000791.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333440921-01333510013- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000813.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01333440921-01333510548- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000814.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post-a-thon...
+</A><A NAME="814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333440961- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000789.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333440971- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000784.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333440979- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000783.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333440993- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000788.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333440993-01333512412- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000815.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333441008- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000792.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333441008-01333556091- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000816.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333441019- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000785.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333441019-01333559605- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000817.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333441044- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000790.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333441056- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000780.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333441056-01333444223- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000796.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333441056-01333444223-01333449835- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000800.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01333441056-01333444223-01333451686- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000801.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333441056-01333444223-01333451686-01333507293- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000812.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01333441056-01333562657- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000819.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333441076- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000787.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333441076-01333581810- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000821.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01333441076-01333583377- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000822.html">[Mageia-marketing] Post installation ditty's...
+</A><A NAME="822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333441093- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000781.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333441105- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000782.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333441105-01333488395- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000809.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333442251- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000793.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333442251-01333445135- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000797.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333442251-01333445135-01333445393- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000799.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping
+</A><A NAME="799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333453511- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000803.html">[Mageia-marketing] Priorities, who's doing what and what's next
+</A><A NAME="803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333454647- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000804.html">[Mageia-marketing] Space on Mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333458800- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000806.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333467855- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000808.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 Web site changes option
+</A><A NAME="808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333467855-01333932583- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000850.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 Web site changes option
+</A><A NAME="850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333501653- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000810.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333504291- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000811.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333562029- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000818.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333562029-01333568393- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000820.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333562029-01333568393-01333646649- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000832.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333562029-01333568393-01333646649-01333670047- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000834.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333562029-01333568393-01333646649-01333700304- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000844.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333591070- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000823.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333591070-01333592512- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000824.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333591070-01333592512-01333680764- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000837.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333591070-01333592512-01333680764-01333683531- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000838.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Lightning Talk
+</A><A NAME="838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333614730- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000825.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333614730-01333684401- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000839.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333614730-01333684401-01333696215- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000842.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333627101- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000826.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>info at librestickers.com
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333627101-01333628042- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000827.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333627101-01333628042-01333629500- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000828.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333627101-01333628042-01333629500-01333633229- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000829.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333627101-01333628042-01333629500-01333633229-01333637346- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000831.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333627101-01333628042-01333629500-01333633229-01333655033- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000833.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333627101-01333628042-01333629500-01333633811- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000830.html">[Mageia-marketing] Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333671748- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000835.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333671748-01333700162- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000843.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333674545- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000836.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333674545-01333684911- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000840.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333674545-01333684911-01333685735- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000841.html">[Mageia-marketing] Planets.mageia.org
+</A><A NAME="841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333722224- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000845.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333722224-01333727602- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000929.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333746565- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000846.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333746565-01333783080- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000930.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Xen Images
+</A><A NAME="930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333820820- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000847.html">[Mageia-marketing] Here's a thought....
+</A><A NAME="847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333820820-01333841597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000848.html">[Mageia-marketing] Here's a thought....
+</A><A NAME="848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333926908- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000849.html">[Mageia-marketing] Texts for release
+</A><A NAME="849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333972670- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000851.html">[Mageia-marketing] First draft of release texts
+</A><A NAME="851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333972670-01333986853- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000852.html">[Mageia-marketing] First draft of release texts
+</A><A NAME="852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01334237910- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000853.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts...
+</A><A NAME="853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01334237910-01334238724- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000854.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts...
+</A><A NAME="854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01334696822- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000855.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week
+</A><A NAME="855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01335039690- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000856.html">[Mageia-marketing] Saturday 19th May 2012
+</A><A NAME="856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01335131533- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000857.html">[Mageia-marketing] Emails lost yesterday
+</A><A NAME="857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01335362894- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000858.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01335362894-01335521517- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000859.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01335472289- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000931.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01335551233- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000860.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01335551233-01335814130- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000863.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01335736697- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000861.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Re: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>info at librestickers.com
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01335736697-01335779609- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000862.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: Re: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the Mageia logo
+</A><A NAME="862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Apr 30 21:28:50 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:14:29 CEST 2012</i>
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+ <TITLE> [Mageia-marketing] Fa&#231;a parte da minha rede no LinkedIn
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+ <H1>[Mageia-marketing] Fa&#231;a parte da minha rede no LinkedIn</H1>
+ <B>Otto S&#225;</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FFa%3DC3%3DA7a_parte_da_minha_rede_no_Lin%3F%3D%0A%09%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FkedIn%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3C899444020.5083686.1343961954811.JavaMail.app%40ela4-app0131.prod%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Fa&#231;a parte da minha rede no LinkedIn">ottosa at gmail.com
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Fri Aug 3 04:45:54 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>LinkedIn
+------------
+
+
+
+Mageia,
+
+Eu gostaria de adicion&#225;-lo &#224; minha rede profissional no LinkedIn.
+-Otto
+
+Otto S&#225;
+Professor de Legisla&#231;&#227;o ambiental na FAETEC
+Brasil
+
+Confirme que voc&#234; conhece Otto S&#225;:
+<A HREF="https://www.linkedin.com/e/-9bzp37-h5eo8x6f-22/isd/8095516244/DoadsVeY/?hs=false&amp;tok=3IGe9XTza5Olk1">https://www.linkedin.com/e/-9bzp37-h5eo8x6f-22/isd/8095516244/DoadsVeY/?hs=false&amp;tok=3IGe9XTza5Olk1</A>
+
+--
+Voc&#234; est&#225; recebendo convites de conex&#227;o por e-mail. Clique aqui para parar de receb&#234;-los:
+<A HREF="http://www.linkedin.com/e/-9bzp37-h5eo8x6f-22/qAa3RxDQ_knAe50b4XCGUJNkpqUYGR_QEA6Ayj9G7c/goo/mageia-marketing%40mageia%2Eorg/20061/I2728487271_1/?hs=false&amp;tok=0ZnK2jB3S5Olk1">http://www.linkedin.com/e/-9bzp37-h5eo8x6f-22/qAa3RxDQ_knAe50b4XCGUJNkpqUYGR_QEA6Ayj9G7c/goo/mageia-marketing%40mageia%2Eorg/20061/I2728487271_1/?hs=false&amp;tok=0ZnK2jB3S5Olk1</A>
+
+(c) 2012 LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct, Mountain View, CA 94043 - EUA.
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+ <B>Anne nicolas</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora">ennael at mageia.org
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+<PRE>Hi there
+
+I got a mail from Jeremy, Linuxquestions.org. Here it is
+
+==============
+
+Thanks for the quick response. I was interested to know if anyone
+associated with Mageia would be interested in participating in a
+Mageia forum at LQ. Basically, we have quite a few distro fora (see
+<A HREF="http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/">http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/</A> for a
+full list) and Mageia is one of the only major distro's currently not
+represented. The only prerequisite for having a LQ distro forum is
+that someone associated with the project participate. Each participant
+gets a custom user title that denotes their affiliation. Is this
+something you think someone within the project would be interested in?
+You can use a role account or multiple individual accounts, based on
+your preferences.
+
+==============
+
+So if you are interested in it just mail me about this and we will
+setup necessary account
+
+Cheers
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi guys,
+
+This is something we really should do. Is anyone interested in taking
+this on with me? Seb? JohnR? Anyone?
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I got a mail from Jeremy, Linuxquestions.org. Here it is for the
+</I>&gt;<i> quick response. I was interested to know if anyone associated with
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia would be interested in participating in a Mageia forum at LQ.
+</I>&gt;<i> Basically, we have quite a few distro fora (see
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/">http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/</A> for a
+</I>&gt;<i> full list) and Mageia is one of the only major distro's currently not
+</I>&gt;<i> represented. The only prerequisite for having a LQ distro forum is
+</I>&gt;<i> that someone associated with the project participate. Each
+</I>&gt;<i> participant gets a custom user title that denotes their affiliation.
+</I>&gt;<i> Is this something you think someone within the project would be
+</I>&gt;<i> interested in? You can use a role account or multiple individual
+</I>&gt;<i> accounts, based on your preferences.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ==============
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So if you are interested in it just mail me about this and we will
+</I>&gt;<i> setup necessary account
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+Wed Feb 8 10:26:15 CET 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+hermes up 12 hour(s), 8 min.
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga
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+<PRE>Le 08/02/2012 10:27, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is something we really should do. Is anyone interested in taking
+</I>&gt;<i> this on with me? Seb? JohnR? Anyone?
+</I>
+to be clear, we are looking for various profiles, technical and non
+technical
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I got a mail from Jeremy, Linuxquestions.org. Here it is for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> quick response. I was interested to know if anyone associated with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia would be interested in participating in a Mageia forum at LQ.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Basically, we have quite a few distro fora (see
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/">http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/</A> for a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> full list) and Mageia is one of the only major distro's currently not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> represented. The only prerequisite for having a LQ distro forum is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that someone associated with the project participate. Each
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> participant gets a custom user title that denotes their affiliation.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is this something you think someone within the project would be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> interested in? You can use a role account or multiple individual
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> accounts, based on your preferences.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ==============
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So if you are interested in it just mail me about this and we will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> setup necessary account
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
+</PRE>
+
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Le 08/02/2012 10:27, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This is something we really should do. Is anyone interested in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; taking this on with me? Seb? JohnR? Anyone?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> to be clear, we are looking for various profiles, technical and non
+</I>&gt;<i> technical
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Understood - we would need to work with devs, qa, docteam and others,
+but maybe marketing/comms could co-ordinate?
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I got a mail from Jeremy, Linuxquestions.org. Here it is for the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; quick response. I was interested to know if anyone associated with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia would be interested in participating in a Mageia forum at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; LQ. Basically, we have quite a few distro fora (see
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/">http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/</A> for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; a full list) and Mageia is one of the only major distro's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; currently not represented. The only prerequisite for having a LQ
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; distro forum is that someone associated with the project
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; participate. Each participant gets a custom user title that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; denotes their affiliation. Is this something you think someone
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; within the project would be interested in? You can use a role
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; account or multiple individual accounts, based on your preferences.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ==============
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; So if you are interested in it just mail me about this and we will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; setup necessary account
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
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+<PRE>Le 08/02/2012 10:33, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> Le 08/02/2012 10:27, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is something we really should do. Is anyone interested in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> taking this on with me? Seb? JohnR? Anyone?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to be clear, we are looking for various profiles, technical and non
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> technical
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Understood - we would need to work with devs, qa, docteam and others,
+</I>&gt;<i> but maybe marketing/comms could co-ordinate?
+</I>
+of course ! I just answered a question about Mageia.
+So as soon as you have a contact just ping me :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I got a mail from Jeremy, Linuxquestions.org. Here it is for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> quick response. I was interested to know if anyone associated with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia would be interested in participating in a Mageia forum at
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> LQ. Basically, we have quite a few distro fora (see
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/">http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/</A> for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a full list) and Mageia is one of the only major distro's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> currently not represented. The only prerequisite for having a LQ
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> distro forum is that someone associated with the project
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> participate. Each participant gets a custom user title that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> denotes their affiliation. Is this something you think someone
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> within the project would be interested in? You can use a role
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> account or multiple individual accounts, based on your preferences.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ==============
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So if you are interested in it just mail me about this and we will
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> setup necessary account
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
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+Anne
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Le 08/02/2012 10:33, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Le 08/02/2012 10:27, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; This is something we really should do. Is anyone interested in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; taking this on with me? Seb? JohnR? Anyone?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to be clear, we are looking for various profiles, technical and non
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; technical
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Understood - we would need to work with devs, qa, docteam and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; others, but maybe marketing/comms could co-ordinate?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> of course ! I just answered a question about Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> So as soon as you have a contact just ping me :)
+</I>
+okay!
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I got a mail from Jeremy, Linuxquestions.org. Here it is for the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; quick response. I was interested to know if anyone associated
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with Mageia would be interested in participating in a Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; forum at LQ. Basically, we have quite a few distro fora (see
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/">http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; for a full list) and Mageia is one of the only major distro's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; currently not represented. The only prerequisite for having a LQ
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; distro forum is that someone associated with the project
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; participate. Each participant gets a custom user title that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; denotes their affiliation. Is this something you think someone
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; within the project would be interested in? You can use a role
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; account or multiple individual accounts, based on your
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; preferences.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ==============
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; So if you are interested in it just mail me about this and we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; will setup necessary account
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
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+52.4161N,16.9303E
+Wed Feb 8 11:17:23 CET 2012
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+&gt;<i> Le 08/02/2012 10:27, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is something we really should do. Is anyone interested in taking
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this on with me? Seb? JohnR? Anyone?
+</I>&gt;<i> to be clear, we are looking for various profiles, technical and non
+</I>&gt;<i> technical
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I'd be interested in helping out. I'm am apprentice packager so perhaps
+I could lend some assistance.?
+
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+<PRE>Am 08.02.2012 14:54, schrieb Josh King:
+&gt;<i> On 08/02/12 03:29, Anne Nicolas wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 08/02/2012 10:27, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is something we really should do. Is anyone interested in taking
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this on with me? Seb? JohnR? Anyone?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to be clear, we are looking for various profiles, technical and non
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> technical
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd be interested in helping out. I'm am apprentice packager so perhaps
+</I>&gt;<i> I could lend some assistance.?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Just one thing about it:Of course it help us getting attention, when
+there is a Mageia sub forums on LQ, but it will divide man power between
+our forums and those LQ forums.
+
+Oliver
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+--
+Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
+
+Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+Am 08.02.2012 14:54, schrieb Josh King:
+&gt;<i> On 08/02/12 03:29, Anne Nicolas wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 08/02/2012 10:27, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is something we really should do. Is anyone interested in taking
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this on with me? Seb? JohnR? Anyone?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to be clear, we are looking for various profiles, technical and non
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> technical
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd be interested in helping out. I'm am apprentice packager so perhaps
+</I>&gt;<i> I could lend some assistance.?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Just one thing about it:Of course it help us getting attention, when
+there is a Mageia sub forums on LQ, but it will divide man power between
+our forums and those LQ forums.
+
+Oliver
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+ <B>Anne Nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>Le 08/02/2012 17:23, Josh King a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Good point. Do we want to.fractionalize our support outlets?
+</I>
+Of course it can divide manpower but LQ is a quite important forum for
+distributions and people are wondering about Mageia. I think it's worth
+taking some time answering and giving visibility.
+
+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Am 08.02.2012 14:54, schrieb Josh King:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 08/02/12 03:29, Anne Nicolas wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Le 08/02/2012 10:27, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; This is something we really should do. Is anyone interested in taking
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; this on with me? Seb? JohnR? Anyone?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to be clear, we are looking for various profiles, technical and non
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; technical
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'd be interested in helping out. I'm am apprentice packager so perhaps
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I could lend some assistance.?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Just one thing about it:Of course it help us getting attention, when
+</I>&gt;<i> there is a Mageia sub forums on LQ, but it will divide man power between
+</I>&gt;<i> our forums and those LQ forums.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
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+</I>
+
+--
+Anne
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+On 02/07/2012 11:46 PM, Anne nicolas wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I got a mail from Jeremy, Linuxquestions.org. Here it is
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ==============
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for the quick response. I was interested to know if anyone
+</I>&gt;<i> associated with Mageia would be interested in participating in a
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia forum at LQ. Basically, we have quite a few distro fora (see
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/">http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/</A> for a
+</I>&gt;<i> full list) and Mageia is one of the only major distro's currently not
+</I>&gt;<i> represented. The only prerequisite for having a LQ distro forum is
+</I>&gt;<i> that someone associated with the project participate. Each participant
+</I>&gt;<i> gets a custom user title that denotes their affiliation. Is this
+</I>&gt;<i> something you think someone within the project would be interested in?
+</I>&gt;<i> You can use a role account or multiple individual accounts, based on
+</I>&gt;<i> your preferences.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ==============
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So if you are interested in it just mail me about this and we will
+</I>&gt;<i> setup necessary account
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Hi Anne,
+
+Yes I mentioned this to Jeremy some time back. Glad to know he finally
+contacted you about this.
+
+I'm already one of the regular support providers in the Slackware
+forums. I think a Mageia forum at LQ is a great idea.
+
+I brought this up before here... but it went nowhere. That's when I took
+it to Jeremy. I'm glad we're paying attention to it now :)
+
+I'm interested in this, but will continue to use my own account which
+has been registered w/LQ since 2003. Let me know how you would like to
+proceed in that regard.
+
+On another note, Oliver and Josh brought up the notion on this list that
+taking advantage of this opportunity might 'split' the support efforts.
+IMO, and after years of experience as a contributing supporter at LQ, I
+can offer this bit of wisdom to consider:
+
+1.) People are going to go to LQ regardless for support, because that's
+what happens there, it's the place where it happens on the Internet -
+even if it's for a crappy distro like ubuntu, who also has their own
+forums there at LQ.
+
+2.) People get support from real UNIX people at LQ. The kind of support
+that isn't always available in distro specific forums at each respective
+distro's home sites.
+
+This is because many of the problems that people have, regardless of the
+distro they are using, often are only remotely related to the distro
+itself, and more to do with the software that someone is having problems
+with.
+
+When someone comes to a Mageia for problems with, for example SANE,
+they're going to get a Mageia-centric take on the issue, while the
+problem may be with their scanner, or SANE itself - a problem commonly
+solved at LQ but would not even be addressed by an available HCL at the
+Mageia site.
+
+That's just one example.
+
+3.) Exposure, exposure, exposure. My Mageia reviews at LQ were well
+received, well read by many, and drove probably hundreds, if not
+thousands to Our Mageia downloads... probably resulting in many new
+users of our distro.
+
+So let me know how you would like me to proceed as an offical support
+rep for Mageia to obtain our own distro forum at LQ (which is an
+opportunity I really don't think we should pass on.
+
+Just my two cents. I hope it helps :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+- --
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+NorthTech Computer
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+Yay Bradley! and thanks to others for offers of help with this. I
+think, like Anne and Bradley, that the more exposure the better - we
+need to grow our community, and we won't do that by restricting our
+venues, I don't think.
+
+I'm also registered on LQ, if somewhat silent, so let's get a Mageia
+forum set up, and if need be we can point people to resources on Mageia
+whether they be docs, forums, lists or IRC, thus bridging the gap.
+
+Anyone else want to help?
+
+&gt;<i> On 02/07/2012 11:46 PM, Anne nicolas wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I got a mail from Jeremy, Linuxquestions.org. Here it is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ==============
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks for the quick response. I was interested to know if anyone
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; associated with Mageia would be interested in participating in a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia forum at LQ. Basically, we have quite a few distro fora (see
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/">http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/</A> for a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; full list) and Mageia is one of the only major distro's currently
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; not represented. The only prerequisite for having a LQ distro forum
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is that someone associated with the project participate. Each
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; participant gets a custom user title that denotes their
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; affiliation. Is this something you think someone within the project
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; would be interested in? You can use a role account or multiple
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; individual accounts, based on your preferences.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ==============
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So if you are interested in it just mail me about this and we will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; setup necessary account
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Anne,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes I mentioned this to Jeremy some time back. Glad to know he finally
+</I>&gt;<i> contacted you about this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm already one of the regular support providers in the Slackware
+</I>&gt;<i> forums. I think a Mageia forum at LQ is a great idea.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I brought this up before here... but it went nowhere. That's when I
+</I>&gt;<i> took it to Jeremy. I'm glad we're paying attention to it now :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm interested in this, but will continue to use my own account which
+</I>&gt;<i> has been registered w/LQ since 2003. Let me know how you would like to
+</I>&gt;<i> proceed in that regard.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On another note, Oliver and Josh brought up the notion on this list
+</I>&gt;<i> that taking advantage of this opportunity might 'split' the support
+</I>&gt;<i> efforts. IMO, and after years of experience as a contributing
+</I>&gt;<i> supporter at LQ, I can offer this bit of wisdom to consider:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.) People are going to go to LQ regardless for support, because
+</I>&gt;<i> that's what happens there, it's the place where it happens on the
+</I>&gt;<i> Internet - even if it's for a crappy distro like ubuntu, who also
+</I>&gt;<i> has their own forums there at LQ.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.) People get support from real UNIX people at LQ. The kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> support that isn't always available in distro specific forums at each
+</I>&gt;<i> respective distro's home sites.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is because many of the problems that people have, regardless of
+</I>&gt;<i> the distro they are using, often are only remotely related to the
+</I>&gt;<i> distro itself, and more to do with the software that someone is
+</I>&gt;<i> having problems with.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When someone comes to a Mageia for problems with, for example SANE,
+</I>&gt;<i> they're going to get a Mageia-centric take on the issue, while the
+</I>&gt;<i> problem may be with their scanner, or SANE itself - a problem commonly
+</I>&gt;<i> solved at LQ but would not even be addressed by an available HCL at
+</I>&gt;<i> the Mageia site.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's just one example.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.) Exposure, exposure, exposure. My Mageia reviews at LQ were well
+</I>&gt;<i> received, well read by many, and drove probably hundreds, if not
+</I>&gt;<i> thousands to Our Mageia downloads... probably resulting in many new
+</I>&gt;<i> users of our distro.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So let me know how you would like me to proceed as an offical support
+</I>&gt;<i> rep for Mageia to obtain our own distro forum at LQ (which is an
+</I>&gt;<i> opportunity I really don't think we should pass on.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just my two cents. I hope it helps :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kindest regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - --
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>&gt;<i> Manager Network Services
+</I>&gt;<i> NorthTech Computer
+</I>&gt;<i> TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+</I>&gt;<i> TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+</I>&gt;<i> TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
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+ <B>Josh King</B>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Yay Bradley! and thanks to others for offers of help with this. I
+</I>&gt;<i> think, like Anne and Bradley, that the more exposure the better - we
+</I>&gt;<i> need to grow our community, and we won't do that by restricting our
+</I>&gt;<i> venues, I don't think.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm also registered on LQ, if somewhat silent, so let's get a Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> forum set up, and if need be we can point people to resources on Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> whether they be docs, forums, lists or IRC, thus bridging the gap.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyone else want to help?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I'm game to help in any way that is needed.
+
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+ <B>Anne nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;&gt;<i> Anyone else want to help?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm game to help in any way that is needed.
+</I>
+For those interested in it please register on LQ and give me your nickname
+Cheers
+
+--
+Anne
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm game to help in any way that is needed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For those interested in it please register on LQ and give me your
+</I>&gt;<i> nickname Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+trishf42 - that's me!
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anyone else want to help?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm game to help in any way that is needed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For those interested in it please register on LQ and give me your
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> nickname Cheers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> trishf42 - that's me!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>obgr_seneca
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+Also I don't know how often I'll be there, but I try to...
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+&gt;<i> Am 09.02.2012 08:49, schrieb Patricia Fraser:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anyone else want to help?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm game to help in any way that is needed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For those interested in it please register on LQ and give me your
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nickname Cheers
+</I>
+dotmil is my nick
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+
+Now that I'm back in Australia, we should maybe re-visit the time we
+have our IRC get-together each week or fortnight - we're a bit spread
+out over the planet!
+
+For me, a time that's equivalent to UTC 20:00 or 21:00, or a time
+that's equivalent to UTC 09:00 or 10:00 would be fine. Earlier than UTC
+20:00 I can do sometimes but not often.
+
+What times suit everyone else?
+
+We need to get some tasks worked out for Mageia 2 release - nothing too
+heavy, but it would be good to spread the word well for this release!
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now that I'm back in Australia, we should maybe re-visit the time we
+</I>&gt;<i> have our IRC get-together each week or fortnight - we're a bit spread
+</I>&gt;<i> out over the planet!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For me, a time that's equivalent to UTC 20:00 or 21:00, or a time
+</I>&gt;<i> that's equivalent to UTC 09:00 or 10:00 would be fine. Earlier than UTC
+</I>&gt;<i> 20:00 I can do sometimes but not often.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What times suit everyone else?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We need to get some tasks worked out for Mageia 2 release - nothing too
+</I>&gt;<i> heavy, but it would be good to spread the word well for this release!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>Hi
+
+For me the evening is good in UK time :).
+
+Tuesday 7pm UTC is the Mageia documentation team meeting.
+
+Wednesday at about 8pm seems to usually be the packaging meeting, I am
+not a packager, but I know these meetings can be useful to find out
+Mageia project information. Sometimes I type in them a bit as well.
+However if we have our marketing team meeting on the same day and at the
+same time, well I tend to be in quite a few IRC channels any way when
+using IRC, so that's not really a problem.
+
+Also the day of the marketing team meeting isn't a problem for me, but
+other people might want a different day.
+
+Clocks change as well twice a year, but 8pm UK time should be ok with
+me, and 9pm even.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+
+P.S
+
+Which time zone are you in now, and where abouts in Australia did you
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+
+&gt;<i> For me the evening is good in UK time :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Tuesday 7pm UTC is the Mageia documentation team meeting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wednesday at about 8pm seems to usually be the packaging meeting, I
+</I>&gt;<i> am not a packager, but I know these meetings can be useful to find
+</I>&gt;<i> out Mageia project information. Sometimes I type in them a bit as
+</I>&gt;<i> well. However if we have our marketing team meeting on the same day
+</I>&gt;<i> and at the same time, well I tend to be in quite a few IRC channels
+</I>&gt;<i> any way when using IRC, so that's not really a problem.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also the day of the marketing team meeting isn't a problem for me,
+</I>&gt;<i> but other people might want a different day.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Clocks change as well twice a year, but 8pm UK time should be ok with
+</I>&gt;<i> me, and 9pm even.
+</I>
+All good points. We&#180;ve had marcom meetings on Wednesdays, alternating
+with artwork - but they don&#180;t have to be Wednesdays, sure. Let&#180;s see
+what other people have to say?
+
+&gt;<i> Which time zone are you in now, and where abouts in Australia did you
+</I>&gt;<i> move to?
+</I>
+I&#180;m in Victoria, and the time zone is UTC + 11 (we&#180;re on summer time),
+dropping to UTC +9 when the northern hemisphere is on summer time.
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Patricia Fraser
+On the move
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+&gt;<i> Hi Seb,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For me the evening is good in UK time :).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Tuesday 7pm UTC is the Mageia documentation team meeting.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wednesday at about 8pm seems to usually be the packaging meeting, I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> am not a packager, but I know these meetings can be useful to find
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> out Mageia project information. Sometimes I type in them a bit as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> well. However if we have our marketing team meeting on the same day
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and at the same time, well I tend to be in quite a few IRC channels
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> any way when using IRC, so that's not really a problem.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also the day of the marketing team meeting isn't a problem for me,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but other people might want a different day.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Clocks change as well twice a year, but 8pm UK time should be ok with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> me, and 9pm even.
+</I>&gt;<i> All good points. We&#180;ve had marcom meetings on Wednesdays, alternating
+</I>&gt;<i> with artwork - but they don&#180;t have to be Wednesdays, sure. Let&#180;s see
+</I>&gt;<i> what other people have to say?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Which time zone are you in now, and where abouts in Australia did you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> move to?
+</I>&gt;<i> I&#180;m in Victoria, and the time zone is UTC + 11 (we&#180;re on summer time),
+</I>&gt;<i> dropping to UTC +9 when the northern hemisphere is on summer time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>Hi
+
+Oh yeah they fit in with the artwork team meetings, already knew that,
+but forgot about that when typing the email.
+
+Wednesday will be fine for me, but at the moment any day of the week
+would be really.
+
+Is there going to be a marketing team meeting this evening, 7pm UTC, or
+8 or 9pm UTC even?
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+
+P.S
+
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+<PRE>Hi guys,
+
+You may know that Mageia's installer shows some promotional pictures
+during the installation[1], which are supposed to demonstrate the main
+characteristics and assets of Mageia. For Mageia 1, a contributor took
+the time to design a few pictures to promote some aspects of Mageia,
+and these are still shown in the installer of Mageia 2 beta 1.
+Now, it would be good for Mageia 2's look that we design some new
+pictures. To do so, it could be great that Marcom and Artwork work
+together to come with a bunch of pretty professional-looking pictures
+which enforce Mageia's values and trademark.
+
+The fact is, artwork freeze is on March, 10th, i.e. in a bit more than
+two weeks. So we need to decide what we want to do, who will do it and
+using which resources and content.
+So, what are your ideas for these pictures?
+
+I had an initial idea, but you may find better ones. I thought that we
+could do 5 pictures, each dedicated to one of the core values of
+Mageia[2], i.e.:
+- Mageia is social software
+- Mageia is powerful technology
+- Mageia is knowledge
+- Mageia is quality
+- Mageia is open relations
+I have no idea about how these key points could be conveyed through
+artwork, but it could give us hints for the content.
+
+There could be other possibilities, such as promoting the content
+included in the distribution and the repositories: Mageia Control
+Center, LibreOffice, latest version of KDE, powerful IDEs, awesome
+games such as Battle for Wesnoth, etc..
+We could also focus on the community, displaying small overviews of
+the work of some of our teams, etc..
+
+So, what are your ideas?
+
+Regards,
+R&#233;mi / Akien
+
+
+[1] See also bug #4651 on Bugzilla: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651</A>
+You'll find there a link to Mageia 1's pictures on the SVN.
+
+[2] <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/values/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/values/</A>
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+
+It's me, the guy from Costa Rica. I was thinking the same a couple of weeks
+ago. I installed the alpha release and noticed that the pictures were the
+same. I have some ideas and I think I can help with some designs (or at
+least, prototypes). But I need the grid and the Mageia logo in SVG format.
+Where can I find them?
+
+Esteban
+
+2012/2/23 R&#233;mi Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">remi at verschelde.fr</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You may know that Mageia's installer shows some promotional pictures
+</I>&gt;<i> during the installation[1], which are supposed to demonstrate the main
+</I>&gt;<i> characteristics and assets of Mageia. For Mageia 1, a contributor took
+</I>&gt;<i> the time to design a few pictures to promote some aspects of Mageia,
+</I>&gt;<i> and these are still shown in the installer of Mageia 2 beta 1.
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, it would be good for Mageia 2's look that we design some new
+</I>&gt;<i> pictures. To do so, it could be great that Marcom and Artwork work
+</I>&gt;<i> together to come with a bunch of pretty professional-looking pictures
+</I>&gt;<i> which enforce Mageia's values and trademark.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The fact is, artwork freeze is on March, 10th, i.e. in a bit more than
+</I>&gt;<i> two weeks. So we need to decide what we want to do, who will do it and
+</I>&gt;<i> using which resources and content.
+</I>&gt;<i> So, what are your ideas for these pictures?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I had an initial idea, but you may find better ones. I thought that we
+</I>&gt;<i> could do 5 pictures, each dedicated to one of the core values of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia[2], i.e.:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mageia is social software
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mageia is powerful technology
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mageia is knowledge
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mageia is quality
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mageia is open relations
+</I>&gt;<i> I have no idea about how these key points could be conveyed through
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork, but it could give us hints for the content.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There could be other possibilities, such as promoting the content
+</I>&gt;<i> included in the distribution and the repositories: Mageia Control
+</I>&gt;<i> Center, LibreOffice, latest version of KDE, powerful IDEs, awesome
+</I>&gt;<i> games such as Battle for Wesnoth, etc..
+</I>&gt;<i> We could also focus on the community, displaying small overviews of
+</I>&gt;<i> the work of some of our teams, etc..
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, what are your ideas?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> R&#233;mi / Akien
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] See also bug #4651 on Bugzilla:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> You'll find there a link to Mageia 1's pictures on the SVN.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [2] <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/values/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/values/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's me, the guy from Costa Rica. I was thinking the same a couple of weeks
+</I>&gt;<i> ago. I installed the alpha release and noticed that the pictures were the
+</I>&gt;<i> same. I have some ideas and I think I can help with some designs (or at
+</I>&gt;<i> least, prototypes). But I need the grid and the Mageia logo in SVG format.
+</I>&gt;<i> Where can I find them?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Esteban
+</I>
+See <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/media/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/media/</A> for the logo in SVG.
+You may find the grid on the SVN I think... Here is Mageia 1's
+background: <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/theme/mageia-theme/trunk/Mageia-Default/background/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/theme/mageia-theme/trunk/Mageia-Default/background/</A>
+I'm pretty sure there is the grid without the Mageia logo somewhere,
+but I don't know where.
+
+R&#233;mi / Akien
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+&gt;<i> 2012/2/23 Esteban Mora&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">esteban1972 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's me, the guy from Costa Rica. I was thinking the same a couple of weeks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ago. I installed the alpha release and noticed that the pictures were the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> same. I have some ideas and I think I can help with some designs (or at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> least, prototypes). But I need the grid and the Mageia logo in SVG format.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Where can I find them?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Esteban
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/media/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/media/</A> for the logo in SVG.
+</I>&gt;<i> You may find the grid on the SVN I think... Here is Mageia 1's
+</I>&gt;<i> background: <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/theme/mageia-theme/trunk/Mageia-Default/background/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/theme/mageia-theme/trunk/Mageia-Default/background/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm pretty sure there is the grid without the Mageia logo somewhere,
+</I>&gt;<i> but I don't know where.
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5425490722/in/photostream">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5425490722/in/photostream</A>
+
+That's the only existing grid without the logo we have. But should be
+enough for the advertisement pictures.
+
+Regards,
+Thorsten
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You may know that Mageia's installer shows some promotional pictures
+</I>&gt;<i> during the installation[1], which are supposed to demonstrate the main
+</I>&gt;<i> characteristics and assets of Mageia. For Mageia 1, a contributor took
+</I>&gt;<i> the time to design a few pictures to promote some aspects of Mageia,
+</I>&gt;<i> and these are still shown in the installer of Mageia 2 beta 1.
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, it would be good for Mageia 2's look that we design some new
+</I>&gt;<i> pictures. To do so, it could be great that Marcom and Artwork work
+</I>&gt;<i> together to come with a bunch of pretty professional-looking pictures
+</I>&gt;<i> which enforce Mageia's values and trademark.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The fact is, artwork freeze is on March, 10th, i.e. in a bit more than
+</I>&gt;<i> two weeks. So we need to decide what we want to do, who will do it and
+</I>&gt;<i> using which resources and content.
+</I>&gt;<i> So, what are your ideas for these pictures?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I had an initial idea, but you may find better ones. I thought that we
+</I>&gt;<i> could do 5 pictures, each dedicated to one of the core values of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia[2], i.e.:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mageia is social software
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mageia is powerful technology
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mageia is knowledge
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mageia is quality
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mageia is open relations
+</I>&gt;<i> I have no idea about how these key points could be conveyed through
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork, but it could give us hints for the content.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There could be other possibilities, such as promoting the content
+</I>&gt;<i> included in the distribution and the repositories: Mageia Control
+</I>&gt;<i> Center, LibreOffice, latest version of KDE, powerful IDEs, awesome
+</I>&gt;<i> games such as Battle for Wesnoth, etc..
+</I>&gt;<i> We could also focus on the community, displaying small overviews of
+</I>&gt;<i> the work of some of our teams, etc..
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, what are your ideas?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> R&#233;mi / Akien
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+hi, if there is enough manpower, we could use the core values for the DVD
+edition, while we could show our major features in the LiveCD edition, to
+match the aim of these different editions. I've proposed also a list of short
+phrases in the old wiki, but now i can't retrieve them in the new one.
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>Hi, I'd like to join the marketing team. I have a lot of ideas on ways
+to further the Mageia &quot;brand&quot;, and worked in web marketing for a short
+time. Is there anything in particular that I could start lending a hand
+with?
+
+I'm also working as an apprentice developer, but I still have plenty of
+time to dedicate to spreading awareness of Mageia to the world. Thanks!
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hi, I'd like to join the marketing team. I have a lot of ideas on ways
+</I>&gt;<i> to further the Mageia &quot;brand&quot;, and worked in web marketing for a short
+</I>&gt;<i> time. Is there anything in particular that I could start lending a
+</I>&gt;<i> hand with?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm also working as an apprentice developer, but I still have plenty
+</I>&gt;<i> of time to dedicate to spreading awareness of Mageia to the world.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
+Hi
+
+As far as I know it's just email the mailing list saying that you would
+like to join (which you did), and then you're on the team. So in that
+case, welcome to the marketing team :).
+
+Trish (Patricia Fraser) will probably give you a welcome later on as
+well :).
+
+A good start is checking out the marketing part of the Mageia wiki :) if
+you haven't already done so: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marcom_Team">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marcom_Team</A>
+
+You should also get a Mageia Identify account if you don't already have
+one, so that you can edit the wiki for example: <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A>
+
+I would like to chat to you in #mageia-social on Freenode IRC soon as
+well :).
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<PRE>Hello everybody.
+I'm sending this to both lists so that we can coordinate this together. I
+apologize to everybody and anybody that will get this twice.
+When replying, please be sure to hit Reply To All.
+
+I hope that everybody is familiar with the bug:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651</A>
+
+As you may or may not be aware, the artwork freeze is coming up, in fact
+it's next Saturday. That means that we need to get this done *this week*. I
+know that you all have other important things to do, but if we all pitch in
+a little bit none of us will have to sacrifice a lot of time.
+
+I was sort of hoping that the Marcom team could come up with some new text
+and that the Artwork team could come up with some new artwork. Then we'll
+hammer out the details at Wednesday's Marcom meeting, and then finish it
+up. A final polish and send it off to the packagers no later than the
+middle of next week.
+
+I really think that we can do this in the time, but we all need to help
+out. So please, let's get to work on this.
+
+There has already been a proposal to use the five Mageia Values. I think
+that that's a good idea, although 5 images may be a bit too much,
+considering the time constraints.
+On the other hand, if the Artwork team can come up with a single image that
+has a few slight variations that might work too.
+
+Your thoughts?
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+ <I>Mon Feb 27 21:27:55 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+Sorry I haven't been around and available for the last little while -
+I'm in the process of moving still, so this week I'll still be
+unavailable for meetings. However, I'm in my house, cat and all, from
+Sunday, so next week I'll be back on deck!
+
+If I can grab a connected half-hour before the end of the week to look
+at the texts for the install screens, I will, but I can't promise. So
+if anyone else has suggestions for the texts, please do make them!
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Tue Feb 28 07:24:47 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+hermes up 0 hour(s), 26 min.
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+halfway across the globe. :D
+
+On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry I haven't been around and available for the last little while -
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm in the process of moving still, so this week I'll still be
+</I>&gt;<i> unavailable for meetings. However, I'm in my house, cat and all, from
+</I>&gt;<i> Sunday, so next week I'll be back on deck!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If I can grab a connected half-hour before the end of the week to look
+</I>&gt;<i> at the texts for the install screens, I will, but I can't promise. So
+</I>&gt;<i> if anyone else has suggestions for the texts, please do make them!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+</I>&gt;<i> -35.67896, 142.66637
+</I>&gt;<i> Tue Feb 28 07:24:47 EST 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+</I>&gt;<i> hermes up 0 hour(s), 26 min.
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Mageia%20IRC%20cloaks%20and%20%40mageia.org%20email%20addresses&In-Reply-To=%3C4F4C271A.9070505%40gmx.com%3E"
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+ <I>Tue Feb 28 02:00:10 CET 2012</I>
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+
+I have been meaning to email about the IRC cloaks for quite some time.
+
+The Mageia Linux organisation has existed for over a year, but on IRC
+none of the Mageia contributors have Mageia IRC cloaks. Ubuntu, Fedora,
+OpenSuse, FSF, Wikipedia, (and of course Freenode,) but also many other
+projects that have their channels on Freenode have IRC cloaks for their
+project. Mageia still lacks this. I wonder why that is? Is the Mageia
+organisation properly registered with Freenode yet?
+
+I think that Mageia IRC cloaks would be a great way to promote Mageia
+when people with a cloak join other channels on the network and show
+people their cloak.
+
+I think Mandriva still has IRC cloaks.
+
+In the case of Ubuntu, people become community members, if they have
+made a significant and sustained contribution to the project, and then
+one of the things that they get is a IRC cloak whilst they are a
+community member. For more info: <A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership</A>
+
+It depends on the project and why, who gets a IRC cloak and email address.
+
+Who gets a IRC cloak and @mageia.org email address and why, is something
+that I think should be discussed and sorted out as a project.
+
+People with IRC cloaks are also likely to have a @ the project email
+address, depending on the project and how things are done. I have
+noticed with Mageia that certain people have @mageia.org email addresses
+already, but it seems to me, that they also tend to be packagers.
+
+As a community I think we should discuss rules for getting and keeping a
+Mageia IRC cloak and @mageia.org email address.
+
+Sometimes people decide not to have a project IRC cloak or email
+address, when they would be entitled to them. Some people have a IRC
+cloak that also mentions another project that they are contributing to.
+
+I think that Mageia IRC cloaks and email addresses should only be given
+to people who are contributing quite lot to Mageia or trying to, for
+example to a official team. There are many ways that I think people who
+are contributing to the Mageia community should be able to receive a
+cloak and email address. For example someone could help with the Magiea
+community a lot on IRC or the forum via end user support or helping to
+build up IRC channels such as #mageia-social and then helping to keep
+people interested in the Mageia community using this channel. People
+could also start local communities for Mageia.
+
+Oliver Burger (obgr_seneca) took part in a talk at FOSDEM 2012 (
+<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/02/19/mageia-at-fosdem-2012/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/02/19/mageia-at-fosdem-2012/</A> ) with
+people who were representing other distributions about local
+communities, and I highly recommend that you watch the video, if you
+didn't see the talk already in person or via video.
+<A HREF="http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm">http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm</A>
+
+With enough people hopefully in the future, I would like to start a
+local community for the UK, and I registered the #mageia-uk IRC channel
+very soon after the September 18th 2010 announcement of Mageia. Local
+communities are meant to have events for Mageia, for example they could
+have a release party soon after a new Mageia release.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Fwd%3A%20%5BMageia-artwork%5D%20%5BMageia-Artwork%5D%20Meeting%0A%09tonight&In-Reply-To=%3C4F4E4071.4050304%40gmx.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: [Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com
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+ <I>Wed Feb 29 16:12:49 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Looks like the email should have sent to the marketing team mailing list
+as well.
+
+I assume the time of the meeting will be at 7pm GMT/UTC.
+
+P.S
+
+I hope Trish will be at the meeting :).
+
+-------- Original Message --------
+Subject: [Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight
+Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:08:12 +0200
+From: Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Reply-To: Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia artwork discussion and work list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+
+
+
+Hi everybody.
+Tonight there will be a meeting in #mageia-marcom to discuss the
+resolution of bug 4651 (installer images).
+Please make an effort to be there, because this is something that we
+really need to work on.
+Have a good day!
+Max
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Fwd%3A%20%5BMageia-artwork%5D%20%5BMageia-Artwork%5D%0A%09Meeting%20tonight&In-Reply-To=%3CCABN%3DKyiC-OL4jL8w6CZ%2BvxYHmKP%2BtrH6aAbpZOhOYFjgY86X6A%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: [Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight">bogusman222 at gmail.com
+ </A><BR>
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+<PRE>I am not qualified to send such announcements to the marcom list.
+And Trish told me that she would try to be there, and most likely would.
+
+On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> **
+</I>&gt;<i> Looks like the email should have sent to the marketing team mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I assume the time of the meeting will be at 7pm GMT/UTC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> P.S
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I hope Trish will be at the meeting :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Mageia-artwork]
+</I>&gt;<i> [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:08:12 +0200 From:
+</I>&gt;<i> Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; Reply-To:
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia artwork discussion and work list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt; To:
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia artwork discussion and work list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi everybody.
+</I>&gt;<i> Tonight there will be a meeting in #mageia-marcom to discuss the
+</I>&gt;<i> resolution of bug 4651 (installer images).
+</I>&gt;<i> Please make an effort to be there, because this is something that we
+</I>&gt;<i> really need to work on.
+</I>&gt;<i> Have a good day!
+</I>&gt;<i> Max
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Esteban Mora</B>
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+
+It's me (the guy from Costa Rica). I uploaded a demo of the splash screen
+that I made today. It is just a demo. You can download it from here:
+
+Before (one of Mageia's 2 alpha screens):
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</A>
+After (just the background on gray color):
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</A>
+
+Please, let me know what you think (I think it needs more color). I need to
+place some icons showing what the people can do with Mageia (desktop,
+desing, play, develop, etc). And I want to try other colors. I have a lot
+of work on these days, but I'll try to help.
+
+--
+Esteban Mora
+S&#237;gueme en Twitter en <A HREF="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</A>
+----------------------
+La perfecci&#243;n no es cosa peque&#241;a, pero est&#225; hecha de peque&#241;as cosas...
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>On 29/02/12 15:55, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+&gt;<i> I am not qualified to send such announcements to the marcom list.
+</I>&gt;<i> And Trish told me that she would try to be there, and most likely would.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I think that you are allowed to send announcements that are relevant to
+both teams, to both mailing lists.
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looks like the email should have sent to the marketing team
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing list as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I assume the time of the meeting will be at 7pm GMT/UTC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> P.S
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I hope Trish will be at the meeting :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -------- Original Message --------
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: [Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:08:12 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> From: Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Reply-To: Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt; &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt; &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi everybody.
+</I>&gt;<i> Tonight there will be a meeting in #mageia-marcom to discuss the
+</I>&gt;<i> resolution of bug 4651 (installer images).
+</I>&gt;<i> Please make an effort to be there, because this is something that
+</I>&gt;<i> we really need to work on.
+</I>&gt;<i> Have a good day!
+</I>&gt;<i> Max
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+<PRE>On 29/02/12 17:20, Esteban Mora wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's me (the guy from Costa Rica). I uploaded a demo of the splash
+</I>&gt;<i> screen that I made today. It is just a demo. You can download it from
+</I>&gt;<i> here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Before (one of Mageia's 2 alpha screens):
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> After (just the background on gray color):
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please, let me know what you think (I think it needs more color). I
+</I>&gt;<i> need to place some icons showing what the people can do with Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> (desktop, desing, play, develop, etc). And I want to try other colors.
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a lot of work on these days, but I'll try to help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Esteban Mora
+</I>&gt;<i> S&#237;gueme en Twitter en <A HREF="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> La perfecci&#243;n no es cosa peque&#241;a, pero est&#225; hecha de peque&#241;as cosas...
+</I>&gt;<i> Michelangelo Buonarroti
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>Looks ok to me :). I thought the artwork team needed to know about your
+artwork as well, and so the artwork team mailing list in the to as well.
+
+I would suggest joining the artwork team mailing list if you haven't
+already and sending emails about artwork to it.
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+Just contacted the artwork team and submit another demo. You can look at it
+here:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</A>
+
+The text is just an example.
+
+Esteban
+
+2012/2/29 Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> **
+</I>&gt;<i> On 29/02/12 17:20, Esteban Mora wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's me (the guy from Costa Rica). I uploaded a demo of the splash screen
+</I>&gt;<i> that I made today. It is just a demo. You can download it from here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Before (one of Mageia's 2 alpha screens):
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> After (just the background on gray color):
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please, let me know what you think (I think it needs more color). I need
+</I>&gt;<i> to place some icons showing what the people can do with Mageia (desktop,
+</I>&gt;<i> desing, play, develop, etc). And I want to try other colors. I have a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> of work on these days, but I'll try to help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Esteban Mora
+</I>&gt;<i> S&#237;gueme en Twitter en <A HREF="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> La perfecci&#243;n no es cosa peque&#241;a, pero est&#225; hecha de peque&#241;as cosas...
+</I>&gt;<i> Michelangelo Buonarroti
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">listMageia-marketing at mageia.orghttps</A>://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looks ok to me :). I thought the artwork team needed to know about your
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork as well, and so the artwork team mailing list in the to as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would suggest joining the artwork team mailing list if you haven't
+</I>&gt;<i> already and sending emails about artwork to it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+--
+Esteban Mora
+S&#237;gueme en Twitter en <A HREF="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</A>
+----------------------
+La perfecci&#243;n no es cosa peque&#241;a, pero est&#225; hecha de peque&#241;as cosas...
+Michelangelo Buonarroti
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+<LI><A HREF="000505.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
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+<I>Oliver Burger
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+<LI><A HREF="000513.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
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+<I>Oliver Burger
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000503.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000509.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000515.html">[Mageia-marketing] Restarting meetings
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000517.html">[Mageia-marketing] Restarting meetings
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000528.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apologies
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<I>Josh King
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+<I>Marcello
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+<LI><A HREF="000520.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer advertisement pictures
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+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000533.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash image demo...
+</A><A NAME="533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000536.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash image demo...
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+<I>Esteban Mora
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+</A><A NAME="500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
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+</A><A NAME="502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000507.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
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+<LI><A HREF="000527.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer Advertisement Pictures
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+<I>Max Quarterpleen
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+<LI><A HREF="000529.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Apologies
+</A><A NAME="529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
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+<I>Max Quarterpleen
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+<LI><A HREF="000508.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
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+<LI><A HREF="000523.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
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+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
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+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
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+<LI><A HREF="000498.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
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+<LI><A HREF="000511.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
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+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<LI><A HREF="000531.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: [Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight
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+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<LI><A HREF="000498.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
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+<I>Anne nicolas
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000499.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+</A><A NAME="500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
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+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<I>Anne Nicolas
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+<I>Josh King
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+</A><A NAME="505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000506.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000508.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
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+<LI><A HREF="000507.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
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+</A><A NAME="509">&nbsp;</A>
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+<I>Josh King
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+<LI><A HREF="000511.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
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+</A><A NAME="512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000513.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000514.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000515.html">[Mageia-marketing] Restarting meetings
+</A><A NAME="515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000516.html">[Mageia-marketing] Restarting meetings
+</A><A NAME="516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000517.html">[Mageia-marketing] Restarting meetings
+</A><A NAME="517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000518.html">[Mageia-marketing] Restarting meetings
+</A><A NAME="518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000519.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer advertisement pictures
+</A><A NAME="519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000520.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer advertisement pictures
+</A><A NAME="520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000521.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer advertisement pictures
+</A><A NAME="521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000522.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer advertisement pictures
+</A><A NAME="522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000523.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000524.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer advertisement pictures
+</A><A NAME="524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
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+<LI><A HREF="000525.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wish to join
+</A><A NAME="525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000526.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wish to join
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+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<LI><A HREF="000527.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer Advertisement Pictures
+</A><A NAME="527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000528.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apologies
+</A><A NAME="528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000529.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Apologies
+</A><A NAME="529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000530.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks and @mageia.org email addresses
+</A><A NAME="530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000531.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: [Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight
+</A><A NAME="531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000532.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: [Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight
+</A><A NAME="532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000533.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash image demo...
+</A><A NAME="533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000534.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: [Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight
+</A><A NAME="534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000535.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash image demo...
+</A><A NAME="535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000536.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash image demo...
+</A><A NAME="536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
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+ <a name="start"></A>
+ <h1>February 2012 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Feb 8 08:46:45 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Feb 29 23:08:26 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 39<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000529.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Apologies
+</A><A NAME="529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000523.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000528.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apologies
+</A><A NAME="528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000532.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: [Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight
+</A><A NAME="532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000534.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: [Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight
+</A><A NAME="534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000531.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: [Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight
+</A><A NAME="531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000519.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer advertisement pictures
+</A><A NAME="519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000520.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer advertisement pictures
+</A><A NAME="520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000521.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer advertisement pictures
+</A><A NAME="521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000522.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer advertisement pictures
+</A><A NAME="522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000524.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer advertisement pictures
+</A><A NAME="524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000527.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer Advertisement Pictures
+</A><A NAME="527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000498.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000499.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000500.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000501.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000502.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000503.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000504.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000505.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000506.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000508.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000507.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000509.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000510.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000511.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000512.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000513.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000514.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000530.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks and @mageia.org email addresses
+</A><A NAME="530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000515.html">[Mageia-marketing] Restarting meetings
+</A><A NAME="515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000516.html">[Mageia-marketing] Restarting meetings
+</A><A NAME="516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000517.html">[Mageia-marketing] Restarting meetings
+</A><A NAME="517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000518.html">[Mageia-marketing] Restarting meetings
+</A><A NAME="518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000533.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash image demo...
+</A><A NAME="533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000535.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash image demo...
+</A><A NAME="535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000536.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash image demo...
+</A><A NAME="536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000525.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wish to join
+</A><A NAME="525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000526.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wish to join
+</A><A NAME="526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Feb 29 23:08:26 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Feb 29 23:08:32 CET 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
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+ <a name="start"></A>
+ <h1>February 2012 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Feb 8 08:46:45 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Feb 29 23:08:26 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 39<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01328687205- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000498.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328687205-01328693273- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000499.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328687205-01328693273-01328693394- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000500.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328687205-01328693273-01328693394-01328693591- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000501.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328687205-01328693273-01328693394-01328693591-01328693690- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000502.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328687205-01328693273-01328693394-01328693591-01328693690-01328696256- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000503.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328687205-01328693273-01328693394-01328709280- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000504.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328687205-01328693273-01328693394-01328709280-01328713426- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000505.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328687205-01328693273-01328693394-01328709280-01328713426-01328718180- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000506.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328687205-01328693273-01328693394-01328709280-01328713426-01328718180-01328733371- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000507.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01328687205-01328730035- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000508.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328687205-01328730035-01328745306- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000509.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328687205-01328730035-01328745306-01328747243- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000510.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328687205-01328730035-01328745306-01328747243-01328773352- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000511.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328687205-01328730035-01328745306-01328747243-01328773352-01328773758- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000512.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328687205-01328730035-01328745306-01328747243-01328773352-01328773758-01328773933- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000513.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328687205-01328730035-01328745306-01328747243-01328773352-01328773758-01328773933-01328785355- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000514.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxquestions.org fora
+</A><A NAME="514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329271459- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000515.html">[Mageia-marketing] Restarting meetings
+</A><A NAME="515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329271459-01329302685- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000516.html">[Mageia-marketing] Restarting meetings
+</A><A NAME="516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329271459-01329302685-01329303912- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000517.html">[Mageia-marketing] Restarting meetings
+</A><A NAME="517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329271459-01329302685-01329303912-01329305853- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000518.html">[Mageia-marketing] Restarting meetings
+</A><A NAME="518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330029400- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000519.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer advertisement pictures
+</A><A NAME="519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330029400-01330030047- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000520.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer advertisement pictures
+</A><A NAME="520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330029400-01330030047-01330082201- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000521.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer advertisement pictures
+</A><A NAME="521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330029400-01330030047-01330082201-01330083567- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000522.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer advertisement pictures
+</A><A NAME="522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01330029400-01330196320- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000524.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer advertisement pictures
+</A><A NAME="524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330102491- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000523.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330294606- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000525.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wish to join
+</A><A NAME="525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330294606-01330297117- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000526.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wish to join
+</A><A NAME="526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330358628- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000527.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer Advertisement Pictures
+</A><A NAME="527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330374475- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000528.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apologies
+</A><A NAME="528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330374475-01330375066- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000529.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Apologies
+</A><A NAME="529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330390810- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000530.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks and @mageia.org email addresses
+</A><A NAME="530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330528369- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000531.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: [Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight
+</A><A NAME="531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330528369-01330530938- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000532.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: [Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight
+</A><A NAME="532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330528369-01330530938-01330538089- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000534.html">[Mageia-marketing] Fwd: [Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight
+</A><A NAME="534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330536026- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000533.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash image demo...
+</A><A NAME="533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330536026-01330538502- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000535.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash image demo...
+</A><A NAME="535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330536026-01330538502-01330553306- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000536.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash image demo...
+</A><A NAME="536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Feb 29 23:08:26 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Feb 29 23:08:32 CET 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi folks,
+
+The meeting on IRC tomorrow is the artwork meeting - any one of us
+who's free should attend, because artwork is such an important part of
+our branding.
+
+I'm right in the middle of getting everything ready to move from one
+country to another - sorry I haven't been around much! I'll be on IRC
+tomorrow night, so if you're around and you want to just chat in the
+marcom channel, ping me.
+
+Cheers!
+
+Begin forwarded message:
+
+Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:40:37 +0100
+From: Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+To: ageia artwork discussion and work list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;,
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ovitters at mageia.org</A>, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">wally at mageia.org</A>, Anne Nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: [Mageia-artwork] Artwork special meeting for Mga2
+
+
+Hi there,
+
+I'm resending this, because I got no answers till now :(
+
+I'd like to invite all of you to a meeting about this topic next
+Wednesday at 19.00 UTC (meaning 20.00 Paris time) in #mageia-artwork
+I hope you will be there (packager meeting and normal artwork meeting
+are one hour later so we won't take too long.
+
+Please do answer me by mail and tell me if you are available. If you
+are not or you think there would be some better folks to talk to about
+that,
+please forward that mail to those people.
+
+@artwork team: it would be good to have as many of you there as
+possible.
+
+Thanks,
+
+Oliver
+
+
+-----&gt; snip &lt;-----
+Hi there,
+
+in yesterday's council meeting we were discussing the until now
+missing artwork for Mageia 2.
+It was proposed to have a meeting between the artwork people, the
+maintainers of KDE, GNOME and possibly LXDE and XFCE, the drakx
+developers and some council folks.
+
+
+In some way, you are among the group of people I mentioned above, so
+be happy, there is some extra working coming up :D
+
+
+I would propose to have that meeting somewhen this or next week, (e.g.
+next wednesday before the packager meeting ?).
+This would mean 19.00 UTC (or for those of us living in Central Europe
+20.00 CET).
+
+Would this be ok with you?
+
+Thanks,
+
+Oliver
+-----&gt; snip &lt;-----
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-artwork mailing list
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+
+
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+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
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+Tue Jan 24 19:24:31 CET 2012
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+andromeda up 1 hour(s), 48 min.
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+I'm a Mandrake/Mandriva Linux user since 2004 and now I'm testing Mageia.
+Being Mageia a community project I want to help. I have some ideas and I
+also want to collaborate with some art work, specifically in the setup
+process. I'll try to join the IRC channel but be aware that I live in Costa
+Rica and there is a 6 hour difference in the time zone.
+
+Thanks,
+
+Esteban
+
+--
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+S&#237;gueme en Twitter en <A HREF="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</A>
+----------------------
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>On 24/01/12 20:16, Esteban Mora wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm a Mandrake/Mandriva Linux user since 2004 and now I'm testing
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia. Being Mageia a community project I want to help. I have some
+</I>&gt;<i> ideas and I also want to collaborate with some art work, specifically
+</I>&gt;<i> in the setup process. I'll try to join the IRC channel but be aware
+</I>&gt;<i> that I live in Costa Rica and there is a 6 hour difference in the time
+</I>&gt;<i> zone.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Esteban
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Esteban Mora
+</I>&gt;<i> S&#237;gueme en Twitter en <A HREF="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> La perfecci&#243;n no es cosa peque&#241;a, pero est&#225; hecha de peque&#241;as cosas...
+</I>&gt;<i> Michelangelo Buonarroti
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
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+</I>
+Hello welcome to Mageia :)!
+
+Since you are interested in artwork you should join the Mageia artwork
+mailing list as well if you are not already on it. I also suggest
+reading the wiki pages for the marketing and artwork teams if you
+haven't already done so. Someone else can provide more details about
+what you can do for the marketing team if you would like.
+
+There is going to be a special artwork team meeting, which you are
+welcome to join, this evening or for you the afternoon this Wednesday
+the 25th at 7pm UTC/GMT and so 1pm for you I believe. The meeting will
+happen in #mageia-artwork on the Freenode IRC network. Their will
+probably be a public log of the meeting when it has finished:
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/">http://meetbot.mageia.org/</A>
+
+The main #mageia channel can be used for distribution support and to
+find out more about Mageia. However if you would also like to get to
+know some of the people in the Mageia community on IRC I suggest coming
+to #mageia-social as well.
+
+From
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+Remember this? Well, it needs to be completed before the council
+meeting tonight.
+
+&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As we did after Mageia 1, all teams are doing a post-mortem review of
+</I>&gt;<i> their activities around Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Check it out here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia2_Postmortem#Marcom">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia2_Postmortem#Marcom</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We need to add our part by June 10, which is when all the additions
+</I>&gt;<i> are due.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For interest, you might like to check out the previous post-mortem:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marcom_Team#Post-mortem_-_post_Mageia_1_release">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marcom_Team#Post-mortem_-_post_Mageia_1_release</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please add your comments!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Being fairly certain that nothing would happen (as is the usual way
+here in marcom), I've sent the following to the council list. I'm
+pretty disappointed that it was necessary...
+
+&gt;<i> Marcom post-mortem: the vanishing team. I'm putting this here, because
+</I>&gt;<i> I haven't had any responses at all from anyone on the team, either on
+</I>&gt;<i> the wiki or on the mailing list. For all intents and purposes, marcom
+</I>&gt;<i> is me, and nobody else.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Post-mortem: marcom is unsustainable, the way it is, and I'm not
+</I>&gt;<i> really able to promise that I can do it all myself - I've got a fair
+</I>&gt;<i> bit on my plate at the moment, and I can't really do it justice.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd be very grateful for any suggestions, input, warm bodies...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Also, I'd like to dump marcom and move to get an accessibility team
+</I>&gt;<i> going, but that's another story, and I won't do it without at least
+</I>&gt;<i> trying to get something happening in marcom.)
+</I>
+
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+<PRE>On 04/06/12, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Remember this? Well, it needs to be completed before the council
+</I>&gt;<i> meeting tonight.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As we did after Mageia 1, all teams are doing a post-mortem review of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> their activities around Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Check it out here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia2_Postmortem#Marcom">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia2_Postmortem#Marcom</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We need to add our part by June 10, which is when all the additions
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> are due.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For interest, you might like to check out the previous post-mortem:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marcom_Team#Post-mortem_-_post_Mageia_1_release">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marcom_Team#Post-mortem_-_post_Mageia_1_release</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please add your comments!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Being fairly certain that nothing would happen (as is the usual way
+</I>&gt;<i> here in marcom), I've sent the following to the council list. I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> pretty disappointed that it was necessary...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marcom post-mortem: the vanishing team. I'm putting this here, because
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I haven't had any responses at all from anyone on the team, either on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the wiki or on the mailing list. For all intents and purposes, marcom
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is me, and nobody else.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Post-mortem: marcom is unsustainable, the way it is, and I'm not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> really able to promise that I can do it all myself - I've got a fair
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bit on my plate at the moment, and I can't really do it justice.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd be very grateful for any suggestions, input, warm bodies...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (Also, I'd like to dump marcom and move to get an accessibility team
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> going, but that's another story, and I won't do it without at least
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> trying to get something happening in marcom.)
+</I>Hi Trish
+
+I am still around, and I agree Marcom is hardly a team at the moment, it
+seems to only really be the two of us at the moment.
+
+I am not quiting the team :), I am still around, and still trying to
+help when I can or think I can, but what I think we need to do is try
+and get new people to join the team somehow.
+
+I had to recently completely re do everything on my hard disk, and start
+completely over with a new partition table. As a result I am not sure
+where a file with my password for Mageia identify or a personal password
+hint is at the moment, and unfortunately unlike other sites, it seems
+can't just be sent a password reset email for example for the account.
+If I can't log in, I can't edit the Wiki.
+
+I guess I got to find the file, or get one of the system admins to help.
+
+As for the postmortem even though the lack of people we got the stuff
+done that was needed, and in a way, that's probably about all there is
+to say really. Oh and working on things on Piratepads I thought worked
+really well :).
+
+You do indeed seem to be quite busy since moving back to Australia, if
+anyone wants me to do a bit more for Marcom, I can probably do that, as
+long as it's fully clear as to what I need to do.
+
+As usual I'll be at the council meeting later, and you can read the log
+if you would like to.
+
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+ <B>Donald Stewart</B>
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+<PRE>Hey,
+
+I was going to add stuff, but being on my phone is hard.
+I would say the giving more structure to the process and location of
+documents will help, but having web space will help.
+
+Also, adding hard deadlines/gaunt charts to assignments
+to visualize where we need to be might stop the issues of missed deadlines.
+
+Well I hope that the meeting goes Well
+
+On 4 Jun 2012 13:23, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+Hi all,
+
+Remember this? Well, it needs to be completed before the council
+meeting tonight.
+
+
+&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As we did after Mageia 1, all teams are doing a post-mortem review of
+</I>&gt;<i> their acti...
+</I>Being fairly certain that nothing would happen (as is the usual way
+here in marcom), I've sent the following to the council list. I'm
+pretty disappointed that it was necessary...
+
+&gt;<i> Marcom post-mortem: the vanishing team. I'm putting this here, because
+</I>&gt;<i> I haven't had any responses at all from anyone on the team, either on
+</I>&gt;<i> the wiki or on the mailing list. For all intents and purposes, marcom
+</I>&gt;<i> is me, and nobody else.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Post-mortem: marcom is unsustainable, the way it is, and I'm not
+</I>&gt;<i> really able to promise that I can do it all myself - I've got a fair
+</I>&gt;<i> bit on my plate at the moment, and I can't really do it justice.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd be very grateful for any suggestions, input, warm bodies...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Also, I'd like to dump marcom and move to get an accessibility team
+</I>&gt;<i> going, but that's another story, and I won't do it without at least
+</I>&gt;<i> trying to get something happening in marcom.)
+</I>
+
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607
+Mon Jun 4 21:13:33 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 counter.li.org
+hermes up 13 hour(s), 21 min.
+
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+<PRE>Hi Seb,
+
+Thanks for your response.
+
+&gt;<i> I am not quiting the team :), I am still around, and still trying to
+</I>&gt;<i> help when I can or think I can, but what I think we need to do is try
+</I>&gt;<i> and get new people to join the team somehow.
+</I>
+At the moment, we actually have a roster of people that would be plenty
+to do the job - it's just that, when push comes to shove, people seem
+not to be available to do the things that must be done.
+
+We don't decide, by ourselves, what we want to do as the marcom team;
+we're able to make suggestions, and then if the community likes them,
+we can go ahead.
+
+But there's a core group of things that must be done, that are our
+responsibility, and getting the team to join in getting those things
+done is astonishingly really quite hard!
+
+I really do understand that people have lives - I have one myself, and
+it's keeping me pretty busy; but if we were to stick to the tasks we
+have to do, and just *do* them - using piratepads and the wiki means we
+don't even need to be awake at the same time - we would get where we
+ought to be for the sake of our lovely distro.
+
+I would really, really appreciate it, if someone other than me would go
+to that postmortem page, and actually write something on it. It's not
+helpful to write it on the list...
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607
+Tue Jun 5 10:47:52 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 counter.li.org
+hermes up 3 hour(s), 13 min.
+Mageia release 2 (Official) for x86_64
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+ <B>Rupert Horstk&#246;tter</B>
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+I just asked on IRC but most likely it's already too late :p I'd like
+to ask if we may get a reminder to the marcom ml for upcoming marcom
+IRC meetings - let's say a day or some hours ahead in time? In fact
+and just as an example, I myself planned to join the meeting the whole
+week and missed it by accident today (yesterday to be very precise) at
+19:00 UTC. Maybe we could setup a cronjob to do just that? I guess it
+would be beneficial to the whole team. What do you think about it?
+
+Thanks,
+R
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+ <B>Sebastian</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just asked on IRC but most likely it's already too late :p I'd like
+</I>&gt;<i> to ask if we may get a reminder to the marcom ml for upcoming marcom
+</I>&gt;<i> IRC meetings - let's say a day or some hours ahead in time? In fact
+</I>&gt;<i> and just as an example, I myself planned to join the meeting the whole
+</I>&gt;<i> week and missed it by accident today (yesterday to be very precise) at
+</I>&gt;<i> 19:00 UTC. Maybe we could setup a cronjob to do just that? I guess it
+</I>&gt;<i> would be beneficial to the whole team. What do you think about it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i> R
+</I>There wasn't a meeting also Marcom is on the verge of merging with the
+artwork team and webteam into one team, since the current lack of active
+people for all three teams.
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+channel for Marcom, and I chatted to him there, and got him to send a
+introduction email to this mailing list, which is awaiting approval or
+something. I also suggested he joined the Systemadmin, and QA team, and
+maybe webteam as well, after talking to him, so I guess he's in all of
+those teams now really as well.
+
+An introduction email got through to the Systemadmins mailing list, QA,
+and webteam.
+
+I also explained to him about how Marcom, artwork, and webteam, will be
+merging into one team soon as well.
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+ <B>Beno&#238;t Audouard</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is Marcom the right place to discuss install parties ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We've been proposed a place in Paris, France to do an install' party, it
+</I>&gt;<i> would be available by september or october (what we call a m&#233;diath&#232;que
+</I>&gt;<i> in France).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can give the contact to whom may want to organize it (I'm not sure his
+</I>&gt;<i> e-mail should be public).
+</I>&gt;<i> I've already forwarded the e-mail to people I know personnally in Paris
+</I>&gt;<i> that may be interested to attend, anyone would be welcome if we can
+</I>&gt;<i> organize it :-) (and if you want to come to Vincennes for it).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any other install' party in the run? We can discuss this subject at
+</I>&gt;<i> Solutions Linux :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> @++
+</I>&gt;<i> Ben'. aka baud123
+</I>
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+<PRE>On 07/06/12 22:05, Beno&#238;t Audouard wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 07 juin 2012 &#224; 22:12 +0200, Beno&#238;t Audouard a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is Marcom the right place to discuss install parties ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We've been proposed a place in Paris, France to do an install' party, it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would be available by september or october (what we call a m&#233;diath&#232;que
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in France).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can give the contact to whom may want to organize it (I'm not sure his
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> e-mail should be public).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've already forwarded the e-mail to people I know personnally in Paris
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that may be interested to attend, anyone would be welcome if we can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> organize it :-) (and if you want to come to Vincennes for it).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any other install' party in the run? We can discuss this subject at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Solutions Linux :-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @++
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ben'. aka baud123
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>I guess to some extent Marcom mailing list is a good place to talk about
+an install party, however your probably much better off chatting about
+it to major French Mageia contributors for example, and other French
+users or contributors. I mean those of us that aren't in France can't
+really help that much with an install party that is going to take place
+in France I guess.
+
+On the subject of install fests, there's an idea to possibly have one
+for my LUG here in England, in September or October, distrowise though
+it may be Mint as well for example, not just Mageia. Maybe some Ubuntu
+even, none of this has been decided yet, it's just an idea at the moment.
+
+The guy who suggested having an install fest suggested Mint, even though
+he uses Fedora, and so I was like Mageia is rather user friendly as well.
+
+In fact some people would only want one distro really for a install
+fest, but can probably get Mageia installed if there is going to be one
+so :d, even if another distro or two is being installed as well.
+
+Sebastian
+
+P.S
+
+The plan is for Marcom, artwork, and webteam, to merge into one team
+quite soon, because of the lack of active people.
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+ <B>Beno&#238;t Audouard</B>
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+Le jeudi 07 juin 2012 &#224; 22:22 +0100, Sebastian a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 07/06/12 22:05, Beno&#238;t Audouard wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le jeudi 07 juin 2012 &#224; 22:12 +0200, Beno&#238;t Audouard a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Is Marcom the right place to discuss install parties ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; We've been proposed a place in Paris, France to do an install' party, it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; would be available by september or october (what we call a m&#233;diath&#232;que
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; in France).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I can give the contact to whom may want to organize it (I'm not sure his
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; e-mail should be public).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I've already forwarded the e-mail to people I know personnally in Paris
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; that may be interested to attend, anyone would be welcome if we can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; organize it :-) (and if you want to come to Vincennes for it).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Any other install' party in the run? We can discuss this subject at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Solutions Linux :-)
+</I>
+&gt;<i> I guess to some extent Marcom mailing list is a good place to talk about
+</I>&gt;<i> an install party, however your probably much better off chatting about
+</I>&gt;<i> it to major French Mageia contributors for example, and other French
+</I>&gt;<i> users or contributors. I mean those of us that aren't in France can't
+</I>&gt;<i> really help that much with an install party that is going to take place
+</I>&gt;<i> in France I guess.
+</I>
+
+my rethoric question was about any other place where it may happen :)
+
+&gt;<i> On the subject of install fests, there's an idea to possibly have one
+</I>&gt;<i> for my LUG here in England, in September or October, distrowise though
+</I>&gt;<i> it may be Mint as well for example, not just Mageia. Maybe some Ubuntu
+</I>&gt;<i> even, none of this has been decided yet, it's just an idea at the moment.
+</I>
+
+just let us know when it happens :)
+
+&gt;<i> The guy who suggested having an install fest suggested Mint, even though
+</I>&gt;<i> he uses Fedora, and so I was like Mageia is rather user friendly as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In fact some people would only want one distro really for a install
+</I>&gt;<i> fest, but can probably get Mageia installed if there is going to be one
+</I>&gt;<i> so :d, even if another distro or two is being installed as well.
+</I>
+
+in fact, I do attend events where fedora, debian and ubuntu community
+cooperate to help people *use* their computer, let's call it SAV
+(service-apr&#232;s-vente, service after saling ?) of install' parties. It
+happens once a month, first saturday in Paris (and many people come;
+some with ubuntu, some with mandriva, few with gentoo, we are there with
+mageia :p)
+
+&gt;<i> Sebastian
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> P.S
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The plan is for Marcom, artwork, and webteam, to merge into one team
+</I>&gt;<i> quite soon, because of the lack of active people.
+</I>
+
+too early :)
+marketing may have stopped people from contributing, maybe open another
+list with &quot;participate&quot; ? (or contribute or engage or join or
+installl_party or proselytism or just install, maybe it could be a
+positive action of marketing to coordinate what is possible and involve
+people ?)
+
+Ben' aka baud123
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+<PRE>_*Note:*_/ I have had some trouble with this particular list, but I
+think I got it straightened out; however, I apologize if this is a
+duplicate email.
+
+/Hey Folks,
+
+ I'm a System Admin from MI, USA. For work I have always had to use
+RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively. I have
+started running Mageia w/KDE on my laptop starting at beta-2. Was
+running it along side Bodhi w/E17 and Win7, now my laptop runs Mageia only.
+ I never got into Mandriva/Mandrake too much before, mostly because I
+started with SUSE back in '03 and then spent most of my time learning
+RHEL &amp; clones as they are pretty dominant here in the U.S., or at least
+at the shops that I have worked in.
+ At any rate I am very impressed with Mageia, and figure with the time
+I'm spending on it I may as well pitch in a little as well. I am pretty
+capable, but like I said more used to the RH way of things is all. I am
+more an operations/server admin, and am not too into development, with
+the exception of front-end web-dev.
+ I am sending this off to a few lists and look forward to working with
+you all.
+
+Regards,
+
+Jonathan Ingold (Digigold)
+--
+
+
+ /&quot;A mind that is stretched by a new experience can never go back
+ to its old dimensions.&quot;/
+
+
+ *~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.*
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi everyone, (xposted on -marketing, -artwork and -webteam; if
+possible, please follow-up in -marketing)
+
+So here's the plan (actually, that's a suggestion of a plan):
+ - we make a new team; which role is to think, design, produce and
+maintain the identity of the project and its declinations in messages,
+graphics, Web and print [1];
+ - this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;
+ - a new mailing-list is open for that;
+ - it practically merges responsibilities from artwork, web and marcom teams;
+ - it integrates roles as diverse as: design, marketing, graphic
+research and production, copy writing, web design, integration and
+development, curation, etc.
+ - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but
+locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;
+ - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making
+and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,
+graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still
+welcome, but not enough to move forward;
+ - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer
+getting in touch/inviting a professional person to propose and work on
+a specific, focused topic, from overall project identity design, down
+to a specific production. It only needs to be stated within the team
+first so that everyone is in sync;
+ - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from
+external people are made easier is a true option too (that means
+things easier to grasp, understand and update);
+ - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through
+the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not
+a must, just good to have;
+ - no more than 10 hours a week on Mageia.
+
+Questions:
+ - who's going to lead this?
+ - what's the plan up to Mageia 3? several things at least in several
+regards (identity, print, web, distribution), but that will highly
+depend on who lead(s) the team.
+
+[1] ideally, everything that's the public face of Mageia.Org, the
+Mageia distribution and the Mageia project should go through this
+team; that does not mean that things will not be flexible, but if
+there's one place to discuss, document and synchronize all this work,
+it's here. That, in turn, requires some responsiveness and initiative
+from the team members.
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+<PRE>On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone, (xposted on -marketing, -artwork and -webteam; if
+</I>&gt;<i> possible, please follow-up in -marketing)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So here's the plan (actually, that's a suggestion of a plan):
+</I>&gt;<i> - we make a new team; which role is to think, design, produce and
+</I>&gt;<i> maintain the identity of the project and its declinations in messages,
+</I>&gt;<i> graphics, Web and print [1];
+</I>&gt;<i> - this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+My French is a little rusty. Does that mean &quot;workshop&quot;? Who came up with
+that name? How is it pronounced? And why? (I personally was starting to
+like webartcom)
+
+
+&gt;<i> - a new mailing-list is open for that;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Are all participants of -marcom, -web and -artwork automatically subscribed
+to this new list? What is the address? (So I can create a new mail filter)
+
+
+&gt;<i> - it practically merges responsibilities from artwork, web and marcom
+</I>&gt;<i> teams;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Good!
+
+
+&gt;<i> - it integrates roles as diverse as: design, marketing, graphic
+</I>&gt;<i> research and production, copy writing, web design, integration and
+</I>&gt;<i> development, curation, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but
+</I>&gt;<i> locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+When will this happen?
+
+
+&gt;<i> - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making
+</I>&gt;<i> and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,
+</I>&gt;<i> graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still
+</I>&gt;<i> welcome, but not enough to move forward;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+So, sort of a reward for participating? Interesting.... but might not work.
+
+
+&gt;<i> - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer
+</I>&gt;<i> getting in touch/inviting a professional person to propose and work on
+</I>&gt;<i> a specific, focused topic, from overall project identity design, down
+</I>&gt;<i> to a specific production. It only needs to be stated within the team
+</I>&gt;<i> first so that everyone is in sync;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think iamoverrated has already started doing this with a graphic
+designer. I'm not sure on the details, we've been playing IRC tag for a
+week or so...
+
+
+&gt;<i> - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from
+</I>&gt;<i> external people are made easier is a true option too (that means
+</I>&gt;<i> things easier to grasp, understand and update);
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+How?
+
+
+&gt;<i> - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through
+</I>&gt;<i> the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not
+</I>&gt;<i> a must, just good to have;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Where will we be hanging out? New channel? One of the existing channels?
+
+
+&gt;<i> - no more than 10 hours a week on Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hah! I wish I had that much time to give to Mageia :P
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Questions:
+</I>&gt;<i> - who's going to lead this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I nominate Romain.
+
+
+&gt;<i> - what's the plan up to Mageia 3? several things at least in several
+</I>&gt;<i> regards (identity, print, web, distribution), but that will highly
+</I>&gt;<i> depend on who lead(s) the team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+We will probably have to come up with three separate lines of advance. One
+focusing on web, one focusing on distro-look and one focusing on PR. Sort
+of to set our goals for each one. They will, of course, overlap, but the
+end-products of each distinct line will be different.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] ideally, everything that's the public face of Mageia.Org, the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia distribution and the Mageia project should go through this
+</I>&gt;<i> team; that does not mean that things will not be flexible, but if
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My French is a little rusty. Does that mean &quot;workshop&quot;?
+</I>
+Yes.
+
+&gt;<i> Who came up with that name?
+</I>
+Doesn't matter. It's just picked to have something.
+
+&gt;<i> How is it pronounced?
+</I>
+/a.t&#601;.lje/ see <A HREF="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier</A>
+
+&gt;<i> And why? (I personally was starting to like webartcom)
+</I>
+webartcom is reductive - and ugly.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- a new mailing-list is open for that;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are all participants of -marcom, -web and -artwork automatically subscribed
+</I>&gt;<i> to this new list? What is the address? (So I can create a new mail filter)
+</I>
+This list is not registered yet. All participants will have to
+subscribe, an update message stating each former list being closed and
+directions to subscribe to the new list will be sent.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When will this happen?
+</I>
+As soon as 3 or 4 people can agree on a plan and there's no large
+objection from others, and Council validates it. A good time would be
+by the end of this week.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> welcome, but not enough to move forward;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, sort of a reward for participating? Interesting.... but might not work.
+</I>
+Then what would you suggest that would work better?
+
+Here it's not a reward; it's a right, if you participate/make things
+or if you're included by the team peers; and it's how it happens in
+other teams (packagers, dev, sysadmin, qa, i18n, etc.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> getting in touch/inviting a professional person [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think iamoverrated has already started doing this with a graphic designer.
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure on the details, we've been playing IRC tag for a week or so...
+</I>
+Oh, that's great then. That would be even greater that details (what
+work, what scope, when, how, etc.) and progress are posted on this
+list so that things are not wasted or duplicated in the end.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> external people are made easier is a true option too (that means
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> things easier to grasp, understand and update);
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How?
+</I>
+I don't know. At this time, I only can find GitHub's &quot;fork and pull&quot;
+way very inspiring
+(<A HREF="https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests">https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests</A>) + more
+documentation on how/why things are as they are.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a must, just good to have;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Where will we be hanging out? New channel? One of the existing channels?
+</I>
+We'll see. &quot;No meeting&quot; policy doesn't prevent from chatting, hopefully :-p
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+
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; My French is a little rusty. Does that mean &quot;workshop&quot;?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Who came up with that name?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doesn't matter. It's just picked to have something.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+OK, sounds good.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; How is it pronounced?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> /a.t&#601;.lje/ see <A HREF="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And why? (I personally was starting to like webartcom)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> webartcom is reductive - and ugly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - a new mailing-list is open for that;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Are all participants of -marcom, -web and -artwork automatically
+</I>&gt;<i> subscribed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to this new list? What is the address? (So I can create a new mail
+</I>&gt;<i> filter)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This list is not registered yet. All participants will have to
+</I>&gt;<i> subscribe, an update message stating each former list being closed and
+</I>&gt;<i> directions to subscribe to the new list will be sent.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; When will this happen?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As soon as 3 or 4 people can agree on a plan and there's no large
+</I>&gt;<i> objection from others, and Council validates it. A good time would be
+</I>&gt;<i> by the end of this week.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Count me in. I don't know how much I'll be able to help, I've got a lot
+going in in meatspace now, but I really do want to see things moving along
+on this.
+What kind of plan do we need? (Maybe start that in a new thread?)
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; welcome, but not enough to move forward;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So, sort of a reward for participating? Interesting.... but might not
+</I>&gt;<i> work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then what would you suggest that would work better?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here it's not a reward; it's a right, if you participate/make things
+</I>&gt;<i> or if you're included by the team peers; and it's how it happens in
+</I>&gt;<i> other teams (packagers, dev, sysadmin, qa, i18n, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes, I can see that. But part of the problem that we've had recently is
+with people not contributing.
+It's fine to say &quot;If you contribute then you get a say in what happens&quot; but
+if nobody is contributing....
+I can't really think of any alternative, since it is a very good way to do
+things.
+I'm just a little concerned about people not contributing.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; getting in touch/inviting a professional person [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think iamoverrated has already started doing this with a graphic
+</I>&gt;<i> designer.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm not sure on the details, we've been playing IRC tag for a week or
+</I>&gt;<i> so...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oh, that's great then. That would be even greater that details (what
+</I>&gt;<i> work, what scope, when, how, etc.) and progress are posted on this
+</I>&gt;<i> list so that things are not wasted or duplicated in the end.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I'll ping him and see what he can tell us.
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; external people are made easier is a true option too (that means
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; things easier to grasp, understand and update);
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; How?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know. At this time, I only can find GitHub's &quot;fork and pull&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> way very inspiring
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests">https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests</A>) + more
+</I>&gt;<i> documentation on how/why things are as they are.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; a must, just good to have;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Where will we be hanging out? New channel? One of the existing channels?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We'll see. &quot;No meeting&quot; policy doesn't prevent from chatting, hopefully :-p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Indeed.
+
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Max Quarterpleen
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; When will this happen?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As soon as 3 or 4 people can agree on a plan and there's no large
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> objection from others, and Council validates it. A good time would be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> by the end of this week.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Count me in. I don't know how much I'll be able to help, I've got a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> going in in meatspace now, but I really do want to see things moving along
+</I>&gt;<i> on this.
+</I>&gt;<i> What kind of plan do we need? (Maybe start that in a new thread?)
+</I>
+My first post is a first plan. The rest depends on who can make what.
+
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Here it's not a reward; it's a right, if you participate/make things
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or if you're included by the team peers; and it's how it happens in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other teams (packagers, dev, sysadmin, qa, i18n, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, I can see that. But part of the problem that we've had recently is with
+</I>&gt;<i> people not contributing.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's fine to say &quot;If you contribute then you get a say in what happens&quot; but
+</I>&gt;<i> if nobody is contributing....
+</I>
+Then there's nothing to decide on either.
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+<PRE>On 11 June 2012 11:01, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &#160;- this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; My French is a little rusty. Does that mean &quot;workshop&quot;?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Who came up with that name?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Doesn't matter. It's just picked to have something.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, sounds good.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; How is it pronounced?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /a.t&#601;.lje/ see <A HREF="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; And why? (I personally was starting to like webartcom)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> webartcom is reductive - and ugly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &#160;- a new mailing-list is open for that;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Are all participants of -marcom, -web and -artwork automatically
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; subscribed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; to this new list? What is the address? (So I can create a new mail
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; filter)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This list is not registered yet. All participants will have to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> subscribe, an update message stating each former list being closed and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> directions to subscribe to the new list will be sent.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &#160;- existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; When will this happen?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As soon as 3 or 4 people can agree on a plan and there's no large
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> objection from others, and Council validates it. A good time would be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> by the end of this week.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Count me in. I don't know how much I'll be able to help, I've got a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> going in in meatspace now, but I really do want to see things moving along
+</I>&gt;<i> on this.
+</I>&gt;<i> What kind of plan do we need? (Maybe start that in a new thread?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &#160;- will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; welcome, but not enough to move forward;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; So, sort of a reward for participating? Interesting.... but might not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Then what would you suggest that would work better?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here it's not a reward; it's a right, if you participate/make things
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or if you're included by the team peers; and it's how it happens in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other teams (packagers, dev, sysadmin, qa, i18n, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, I can see that. But part of the problem that we've had recently is with
+</I>&gt;<i> people not contributing.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's fine to say &quot;If you contribute then you get a say in what happens&quot; but
+</I>&gt;<i> if nobody is contributing....
+</I>&gt;<i> I can't really think of any alternative, since it is a very good way to do
+</I>&gt;<i> things.
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm just a little concerned about people not contributing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &#160;- external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; getting in touch/inviting a professional person [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I think iamoverrated has already started doing this with a graphic
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; designer.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I'm not sure on the details, we've been playing IRC tag for a week or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; so...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oh, that's great then. That would be even greater that details (what
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> work, what scope, when, how, etc.) and progress are posted on this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> list so that things are not wasted or duplicated in the end.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll ping him and see what he can tell us.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &#160;- formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; external people are made easier is a true option too (that means
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; things easier to grasp, understand and update);
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; How?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't know. At this time, I only can find GitHub's &quot;fork and pull&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> way very inspiring
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests">https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests</A>) + more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> documentation on how/why things are as they are.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &#160;- no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; a must, just good to have;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Where will we be hanging out? New channel? One of the existing channels?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We'll see. &quot;No meeting&quot; policy doesn't prevent from chatting, hopefully
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> :-p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+</I>
+I'll reply in full later, but for now I think that this is the best
+choice that we have moving forward.
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+
+Sorry I'm coming to this late!
+
+&gt;<i> - this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;
+</I>
+...unless someone can think of a similar name a bit more
+closely-related to magic?
+
+&gt;<i> - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making
+</I>&gt;<i> and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,
+</I>&gt;<i> graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still
+</I>&gt;<i> welcome, but not enough to move forward;
+</I>
+&lt;beam&gt; I like it. If you want it done, you have to do it yourself
+(standing back and making suggestions isn't considered work!), or at
+least *help*.
+
+&gt;<i> Questions:
+</I>&gt;<i> - who's going to lead this?
+</I>
+Not to put too fine a point on it, at the moment it looks like you, Max
+and me. Anyone else putting their hands up? Not that I've seen... and
+that's not just for leading, that's for *participating*.
+
+&gt;<i> - what's the plan up to Mageia 3? several things at least in several
+</I>&gt;<i> regards (identity, print, web, distribution), but that will highly
+</I>&gt;<i> depend on who lead(s) the team.
+</I>
+I guess, once we've nailed down who we are, we can get started on a
+plan.
+
+I'll comment on Max's answers separately.
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+Following up on Max's replies:
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - what's the plan up to Mageia 3? several things at least in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; several regards (identity, print, web, distribution), but that will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; highly depend on who lead(s) the team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We will probably have to come up with three separate lines of
+</I>&gt;<i> advance. One focusing on web, one focusing on distro-look and one
+</I>&gt;<i> focusing on PR. Sort of to set our goals for each one. They will, of
+</I>&gt;<i> course, overlap, but the end-products of each distinct line will be
+</I>&gt;<i> different.
+</I>
+Once the new team is formed, we need a new page on the wiki (we can
+archive/carry over the previous pages), with the planning on it - it
+just needs to be split into task areas. I think it'll take all of us
+working together to get it done properly...
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE>Ok time to reply, read RDA's email very soon after it was sent, but let
+other people reply first. Also I wondered straight away how atelier was
+even pronounced.
+
+First of all I don't like the name Atelier. Unless it's just a short
+name that isn't going to be used in talks in front of lots of people for
+example :) or on pod casts for example, when telling people about
+Mageia. For example last month when I did my Mageia Lightning Talk in
+front of 100 to 200 or so people, when I introduced myself, I used the
+full position, deputy leader of the Mageia marketing and communications
+team, I also said I was on documentation and artwork.
+
+Oh by the way thinking of putting the video up on Youtube soon
+possibly. Already shown some people it. Also I think there might be
+another video as well that someone else took.
+
+Now imagine if I had said something like, I am the deputy leader of the
+Mageia Atelier team. I expect most people in the audience would have
+sat there thinking, what's that? Then obviously in a short talk don't
+want to spend time explaining the meaning of names.
+
+So if Atelier is just the short internal name like Marcom for example,
+that is unlikely to be used when explaining about Mageia to other people
+that don't really know about it, I think that's ok. However we need a
+proper external name in that case as well, for example: Mageia
+presentation team, Mageia artwork, web, and marketing and
+communications team.
+
+Also Mageia may be a French distribution really, but Mageia exists in a
+tech world where people are usually expected to know English who are
+part of it, as a result Mageia also is meant to be promoted in the
+English speaking world, as a result it's a good idea to have team names
+and Mageia positions, that instantly make sense to English speakers,
+when describing about Mageia.
+
+Patricia Fraser typed:
+ Not to put too fine a point on it, at the moment it looks like you,
+Max and me. Anyone else putting their hands up? Not that I've seen...
+and that's not just for leading, that's for *participating*.
+
+When I found out about this team nearly straight away I thought about
+how, I have quite a lot of time at the moment, and so, I would have
+enough time to deputy lead the team, or possibly lead it even, if it's a
+good enough team, where we actually work properly together.
+
+Also this may be quite a good idea, to have a leader and deputy leader
+that is in charge of the team as a whole, but also to possibily have sub
+team leaders, so for marketing, artwork, and webteam, for example.
+
+Or here's another idea, don't bother with this team merge idea, just
+have a joint meeting for all three teams, and possibly just do one
+mailnig list and one IRC channel for all three teams, but still have
+them as separate teams.
+
+Sebastian
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+&gt;<i> Now imagine if I had said something like, I am the deputy leader of the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia Atelier team.
+</I>
+So say what you do in the project (shorter and to the point), not what
+the title says.
+
+&gt;<i> Also Mageia may be a French distribution really, but Mageia exists in a tech
+</I>&gt;<i> world where people are usually expected to know English
+</I>
+So what? It's a team _name_. &quot;mageia&quot; isn't English either. If _that_
+keeps some people away, really, well, it's not a loss.
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+
+ I'm a System Admin from MI, USA. For work I have always had to use
+RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively. I have
+started running Mageia w/KDE on my laptop starting at beta-2. Was
+running it along side Bodhi w/E17 and Win7, now my laptop runs Mageia only.
+ I never got into Mandriva/Mandrake too much before, mostly because I
+started with SUSE back in '03 and then spent most of my time learning
+RHEL &amp; clones as they are pretty dominant here in the U.S. or at least
+those that I have worked at.
+ At any rate I am very impressed with Mageia, and figure with the time
+I'm spending on it I may as well pitch in a little as well. I am pretty
+capable, but like I said more used to the RH way of things is all. I am
+more an operations/server admin, and am not too into development, with
+the exception of front-end web-dev.
+ I am sending this off to a few lists and look forward to working with
+you all.
+
+Regards,
+
+Jonathan Ingold (Digigold)
+--
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+ to its old dimensions.&quot;/
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+<PRE>Hey Folks,
+
+ I'm a System Admin from MI, USA. For work I have always had to use
+RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively. I have
+started running Mageia w/KDE on my laptop starting at beta-2. Was
+running it along side Bodhi w/E17 and Win7, now my laptop runs Mageia only.
+ I never got into Mandriva/Mandrake too much before, mostly because I
+started with SUSE back in '03 and then spent most of my time learning
+RHEL &amp; clones as they are pretty dominant here in the U.S. or at least
+those that I have worked at.
+ At any rate I am very impressed with Mageia, and figure with the time
+I'm spending on it I may as well pitch in a little as well. I am pretty
+capable, but like I said more used to the RH way of things is all. I am
+more an operations/server admin, and am not too into development, with
+the exception of front-end web-dev.
+ I am sending this off to a few lists and look forward to working with
+you all.
+
+Regards,
+
+Jonathan Ingold (Digigold)
+--
+
+
+ /&quot;A mind that is stretched by a new experience can never go back
+ to its old dimensions.&quot;/
+
+
+ *~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.*
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+ <B>Beno&#238;t Audouard</B>
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+
+Is Marcom the right place to discuss install parties ?
+
+
+We've been proposed a place in Paris, France to do an install' party, it
+would be available by september or october (what we call a m&#233;diath&#232;que
+in France).
+
+I can give the contact to whom may want to organize it (I'm not sure his
+e-mail should be public).
+I've already forwarded the e-mail to people I know personnally in Paris
+that may be interested to attend, anyone would be welcome if we can
+organize it :-) (and if you want to come to Vincennes for it).
+
+Any other install' party in the run? We can discuss this subject at
+Solutions Linux :-)
+
+@++
+Ben'. aka baud123
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+&gt;<i> As of yesterday (Wednesday) Marcom has a new member, he was in the IRC
+</I>&gt;<i> channel for Marcom, and I chatted to him there, and got him to send a
+</I>&gt;<i> introduction email to this mailing list, which is awaiting approval or
+</I>&gt;<i> something. I also suggested he joined the Systemadmin, and QA team,
+</I>&gt;<i> and maybe webteam as well, after talking to him, so I guess he's in
+</I>&gt;<i> all of those teams now really as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> An introduction email got through to the Systemadmins mailing list,
+</I>&gt;<i> QA, and webteam.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I also explained to him about how Marcom, artwork, and webteam, will
+</I>&gt;<i> be merging into one team soon as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>Well I'm getting the emails anyway...
+
+--
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+ to its old dimensions.&quot;/
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+<PRE>Few things, but as always, sorry for the top post. I only have my phone.
+
+The name is irrelevant, and it sounding like &quot;magic&quot; also,this was the
+issues with the previous teams, to many fine details.
+
+As for the leadership, I feel that each sub group should still have at
+least a coordinator, but there is still an overall leader who is
+responsible for the whole team. I nominate rda for this, with trish and max
+being the respective chair people.
+
+The wiki should still have sections devoted to each sub group, but
+generally linked from the atelier page. This not only keeps it neat but
+also reduces work.
+
+The goals mga 3 should not be set high, having the core work that we need
+to do done with time for testing/checking will most likely be enough to
+keep us easily busy.
+
+Finally, the implication that there are so few people in marcom and artwork
+that actually do anything is getting really annoying, I for one have seen
+many people, well 3 other than trish and seb working on the release texts,
+and artwork has many people that work behind scenes, they just aren't so
+vocal here but that doesn't mean that they don't work. While I realise that
+the release has been tough and stressful on many people and mageia isnt the
+only thing they need to deal with, but the in fighting and negative feel
+that has appeared recently must stop if this team is to grow and work
+together.
+
+I like thw idea of no meetings and working on stuff yourself, but we must
+keep people aware of what we are doing, artwork lost months because of this
+with choosing the background.
+
+On 11 Jun 2012 16:39, &quot;Romain d'Alverny&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Sebastian &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Now imagine if I had ...
+</I>So say what you do in the project (shorter and to the point), not what
+the title says.
+
+
+&gt;<i> Also Mageia may be a French distribution really, but Mageia exists in a
+</I>tech
+&gt;<i> world where people...
+</I>So what? It's a team _name_. &quot;mageia&quot; isn't English either. If _that_
+keeps some people away, really, well, it's not a loss.
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Few things, but as always, sorry for the top post. I only have my phone.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The name is irrelevant, and it sounding like &quot;magic&quot; also,this was the
+</I>&gt;<i> issues with the previous teams, to many fine details.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As for the leadership, I feel that each sub group should still have at
+</I>&gt;<i> least a coordinator, but there is still an overall leader who is
+</I>&gt;<i> responsible for the whole team. I nominate rda for this, with trish and max
+</I>&gt;<i> being the respective chair people.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The wiki should still have sections devoted to each sub group, but
+</I>&gt;<i> generally linked from the atelier page. This not only keeps it neat but
+</I>&gt;<i> also reduces work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The goals mga 3 should not be set high, having the core work that we need
+</I>&gt;<i> to do done with time for testing/checking will most likely be enough to
+</I>&gt;<i> keep us easily busy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Finally, the implication that there are so few people in marcom and
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork that actually do anything is getting really annoying, I for one
+</I>&gt;<i> have seen many people, well 3 other than trish and seb working on the
+</I>&gt;<i> release texts, and artwork has many people that work behind scenes, they
+</I>&gt;<i> just aren't so vocal here but that doesn't mean that they don't work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+You weren't in all those meetings that comprised of me, Tumbeliina and one
+other rotating person. They basically went like this: discuss something a
+little bit, decide what needs to get done, call for volunteer, silence.....
+When this pattern repeats itself time and time again, one can't help but
+get a certain feeling.
+
+
+&gt;<i> While I realise that the release has been tough and stressful on many
+</I>&gt;<i> people and mageia isnt the only thing they need to deal with, but the in
+</I>&gt;<i> fighting and negative feel that has appeared recently must stop if this
+</I>&gt;<i> team is to grow and work together.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I agree. But we should also learn from our past mistakes, that's why we
+make them.
+Bringing up an issue is the first, and most important, step in learning
+from one's mistakes.
+
+
+&gt;<i> I like thw idea of no meetings and working on stuff yourself, but we must
+</I>&gt;<i> keep people aware of what we are doing, artwork lost months because of this
+</I>&gt;<i> with choosing the background.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Indeed.
+I think that a way for this to happen would for all the work being done be
+done on the Mageia servers, and each file contain a detailed history of who
+did what when. That way we can all pick and choose what we are working on,
+and at any given time know what anybody else is working on.
+Having never done this sort of work, I can't recommend any software that
+does this, but I have heard rumors of git and svn. Maybe one of them have
+the features we need.
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">djmarian4u at hotmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to have a mageia banner on my website, it can be written in
+</I>&gt;<i> English. I can translate it in Romanian, i am a member of the translation
+</I>&gt;<i> team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Have a look at this thread:
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=83&amp;p=14265">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=83&amp;p=14265</A>
+I have the xcf (Gimp source) files somewhere, so it shouldn't be too hard
+to get it in Romanian.
+
+
+&gt;<i> www.famitemele.ro, some students (I am no longer a student) that try to
+</I>&gt;<i> help education grow (we do have a problem, they want us to solve their
+</I>&gt;<i> homework completely), I can be contacted for this because I started the
+</I>&gt;<i> page, Romanian (and I will translate the framework to English)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Someone suggested I should add a 'powered by Mageia' but text is not so
+</I>&gt;<i> eye catching.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With respect,
+</I>&gt;<i> Dan-Marian, Joi&#355;a.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>2012/6/11 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ...unless someone can think of a similar name a bit more
+</I>&gt;<i> closely-related to magic?
+</I>
+A bit less far-fetched, we could use &quot;communication team&quot; or something
+similar, promoting Mageia and communicating about it being probably
+the main purpose of the three teams that we want to merge together.
+
+I agree with Sebastien's comment that &quot;atelier&quot; would be hardly
+understandable for those who are not implied in the Mageia project and
+for new contributors. But if it's a little nickname which purpose is
+to be simpler than &quot;Marketing, communication and design team&quot; and
+easier to put in the name of a ML, I find it good :)
+
+If it's a nickname and we want something closely-related to magic, I
+am pretty sure we can find a lot of ideas such as &quot;scroll&quot;,
+&quot;grimoire&quot;, &quot;alambic&quot; (= &quot;still&quot; in English)... but it may take quite
+some time to reach a consensus on which name sounds greater and so on;
+I think Romain's idea was that the name should be chosen quickly to be
+able to create the team without delay (i.e. creating the ML, and so
+on).
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> welcome, but not enough to move forward;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;beam&gt; I like it. If you want it done, you have to do it yourself
+</I>&gt;<i> (standing back and making suggestions isn't considered work!), or at
+</I>&gt;<i> least *help*.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Questions:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- who's going to lead this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not to put too fine a point on it, at the moment it looks like you, Max
+</I>&gt;<i> and me. Anyone else putting their hands up? Not that I've seen... and
+</I>&gt;<i> that's not just for leading, that's for *participating*.
+</I>
+I'd be glad to participate, but I definitely can't lead the project. I
+lack time and knowledge to be a real asset in this new team, but I
+have been helping a bit with artwork (and a really tiny bit with
+marcom), and I look forward to assisting Romain with the website; I am
+not a web developer but I have some notions and I might be able to
+learn a few things to be of help (such as generating .lang files from
+the static EN pages).
+
+Regards,
+R&#233;mi / Akien
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Few things, but as always, sorry for the top post. I only have my phone.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The name is irrelevant, and it sounding like &quot;magic&quot; also,this was the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> issues with the previous teams, to many fine details.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As for the leadership, I feel that each sub group should still have at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> least a coordinator, but there is still an overall leader who is responsible
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for the whole team. I nominate rda for this, with trish and max being the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> respective chair people.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The wiki should still have sections devoted to each sub group, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> generally linked from the atelier page. This not only keeps it neat but also
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reduces work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The goals mga 3 should not be set high, having the core work that we need
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to do done with time for testing/checking will most likely be enough to keep
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> us easily busy.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Finally, the implication that there are so few people in marcom and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> artwork that actually do anything is getting really annoying, I for one have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> seen many people, well 3 other than trish and seb working on the release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> texts, and artwork has many people that work behind scenes, they just aren't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so vocal here but that doesn't mean that they don't work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You weren't in all those meetings that comprised of me, Tumbeliina and one
+</I>&gt;<i> other rotating person. They basically went like this: discuss something a
+</I>&gt;<i> little bit, decide what needs to get done, call for volunteer, silence.....
+</I>&gt;<i> When this pattern repeats itself time and time again, one can't help but get
+</I>&gt;<i> a certain feeling.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+This is true, it always annoyed me that the meetings were at a time
+when I could hardly if ever make it. I do see your point, and I guess
+that I haven't been at the point of this frustration.
+
+Either way, hopefully this will solve the problem.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> While I realise that the release has been tough and stressful on many
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people and mageia isnt the only thing they need to deal with, but the in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fighting and negative feel that has appeared recently must stop if this team
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is to grow and work together.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree. But we should also learn from our past mistakes, that's why we make
+</I>&gt;<i> them.
+</I>&gt;<i> Bringing up an issue is the first, and most important, step in learning from
+</I>&gt;<i> one's mistakes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>The lessons are hopefully really obvious, we need to communicate more,
+otherwise we end up with frustration and work going in circles.
+
+We should probably leave this discussion for now and focus on founding
+the new group.
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I like thw idea of no meetings and working on stuff yourself, but we must
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> keep people aware of what we are doing, artwork lost months because of this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with choosing the background.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed.
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that a way for this to happen would for all the work being done be
+</I>&gt;<i> done on the Mageia servers, and each file contain a detailed history of who
+</I>&gt;<i> did what when. That way we can all pick and choose what we are working on,
+</I>&gt;<i> and at any given time know what anybody else is working on.
+</I>&gt;<i> Having never done this sort of work, I can't recommend any software that
+</I>&gt;<i> does this, but I have heard rumors of git and svn. Maybe one of them have
+</I>&gt;<i> the features we need.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+Le lundi 11 juin 2012 &#224; 16:38 +0200, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Sebastian &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Now imagine if I had said something like, I am the deputy leader of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia Atelier team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So say what you do in the project (shorter and to the point), not what
+</I>&gt;<i> the title says.
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://getalife.blogspace.fr/1239948/Impression-de-pedaler-dans-la-semoule/">http://getalife.blogspace.fr/1239948/Impression-de-pedaler-dans-la-semoule/</A> for illustration :-)
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Also Mageia may be a French distribution really, but Mageia exists in a tech
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; world where people are usually expected to know English
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So what? It's a team _name_. &quot;mageia&quot; isn't English either.
+</I>
+
+The &quot;atelier&quot; is the place where leonardo da vinci did art, engineering,
+communication :-) another image:
+<A HREF="http://leonard.bd.free.fr/leonard_de_vinci.php">http://leonard.bd.free.fr/leonard_de_vinci.php</A>
+
+yeah, alchemy too (very good album BTW, Dire Straits of course).
+
+Do not get it too personnally in here, I'm only making a point^Wpun
+(intended). Let's just make it! (2nd or 3rd humour degree inside, if
+that's understandable in english, 3-4 pints of guinness after for those
+needing a matter-of-fact approach).
+
+@++
+Ben'. aka baud123
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+</I>&gt;<i> We should probably leave this discussion for now and focus on founding
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>the new group.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I agree.
+The way I see it we should have one group (never mind the name) with three
+virtual task forces.
+The task forces will not be real, just a sort of legacy issue for people
+from the old teams to have some initial direction in the new team. Ideally,
+everybody will contribute where he or she can.
+These three virtual task forces should, however, have a real coordinator.
+One person who is in charge of looking out for a specific field. Aside from
+that there should be a team leader, who should be one of the task force
+leaders.
+This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure: Someone willing to work
+on web design or a marketing poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate
+task coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other two what needs to
+be done for this by which task force, then one of these three (it doesn't
+really matter who) propagates that information back down to everybody else.
+It will work the same way in reverse. The three coordinators come up with
+the final list of things that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable
+input and discussion from everybody, of course) and then coordinate the
+tasks.
+I think that this allows for maximum communication and we don't end up with
+the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.
+Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come up with their own
+ideas, plans, projects and whatnot and then act upon them as part of the
+group. Even if in the end they are working alone, the whole group is aware
+of what is going on.
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+<PRE>On 06/09/2012 12:27 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone, (xposted on -marketing, -artwork and -webteam; if
+</I>&gt;<i> possible, please follow-up in -marketing)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So here's the plan (actually, that's a suggestion of a plan):
+</I>&gt;<i> - we make a new team; which role is to think, design, produce and
+</I>&gt;<i> maintain the identity of the project and its declinations in messages,
+</I>&gt;<i> graphics, Web and print [1];
+</I>&gt;<i> - this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i> - a new mailing-list is open for that;
+</I>&gt;<i> - it practically merges responsibilities from artwork, web and marcom teams;
+</I>&gt;<i> - it integrates roles as diverse as: design, marketing, graphic
+</I>&gt;<i> research and production, copy writing, web design, integration and
+</I>&gt;<i> development, curation, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but
+</I>&gt;<i> locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;
+</I>&gt;<i> - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making
+</I>&gt;<i> and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,
+</I>&gt;<i> graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still
+</I>&gt;<i> welcome, but not enough to move forward;
+</I>&gt;<i> - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer
+</I>&gt;<i> getting in touch/inviting a professional person to propose and work on
+</I>&gt;<i> a specific, focused topic, from overall project identity design, down
+</I>&gt;<i> to a specific production. It only needs to be stated within the team
+</I>&gt;<i> first so that everyone is in sync;
+</I>&gt;<i> - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from
+</I>&gt;<i> external people are made easier is a true option too (that means
+</I>&gt;<i> things easier to grasp, understand and update);
+</I>&gt;<i> - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through
+</I>&gt;<i> the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not
+</I>&gt;<i> a must, just good to have;
+</I>&gt;<i> - no more than 10 hours a week on Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Questions:
+</I>&gt;<i> - who's going to lead this?
+</I>&gt;<i> - what's the plan up to Mageia 3? several things at least in several
+</I>&gt;<i> regards (identity, print, web, distribution), but that will highly
+</I>&gt;<i> depend on who lead(s) the team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] ideally, everything that's the public face of Mageia.Org, the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia distribution and the Mageia project should go through this
+</I>&gt;<i> team; that does not mean that things will not be flexible, but if
+</I>&gt;<i> there's one place to discuss, document and synchronize all this work,
+</I>&gt;<i> it's here. That, in turn, requires some responsiveness and initiative
+</I>&gt;<i> from the team members.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________an
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>Sounds good to me. I would like to take on some work especially
+concerning Marketing where it appears that we're especially thin here.
+I feel that although the distrowatch page-hits are high, there is not
+nearly enough of an overall web presence. I think that Mageia has an
+especially good potential to poach Ubunt/Mint users but the buzz just
+isn't there. I tried to add some sites to the list in sandbox, but was
+denied permission. Here are some sites I found:
+
+* <A HREF="http://www.lifehacker.com/">http://www.lifehacker.com/</A> Gawkers tech blog. Allot of entry level
+Linux users
+* <A HREF="http://linux.slashdot.org/">http://linux.slashdot.org/</A> /EN - Very well known IT Blog
+* <A HREF="http://www.desktoplinuxreviews.com">http://www.desktoplinuxreviews.com</A> /EN Linux reviews
+* <A HREF="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com</A> /EN Linux/Informational
+* <A HREF="http://www.linuxbsdos.com">http://www.linuxbsdos.com</A> /EN Linux Reviews
+* <A HREF="https://www.linuxquestions.org">https://www.linuxquestions.org</A> / Linux/Informational
+* <A HREF="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia</A>
+* <A HREF="http://www.techradar.com">http://www.techradar.com</A> /EN Tech News &amp; Info
+* <A HREF="https://www.gnu.org">https://www.gnu.org</A> /EN
+* <A HREF="http://www.linuxbasis.com/distributions.html">http://www.linuxbasis.com/distributions.html</A> /EN
+* <A HREF="http://www.dedoimedo.com">http://www.dedoimedo.com</A> /EN
+* <A HREF="http://www.linuxinsider.com">http://www.linuxinsider.com</A> /EN
+* <A HREF="http://www.linuxjournal.com">http://www.linuxjournal.com</A> /EN
+* <A HREF="http://linuxos.pro">http://linuxos.pro</A> /EN
+* <A HREF="http://www.thisweekinlinux.com">http://www.thisweekinlinux.com</A> /EN
+
+The one of these that I felt could really use some urgent attention is
+Wikipedia. I know this committee/team is in a state of flux with the
+merge and all but every day that goes by is a day further away from its'
+release. I have my main contract winding down here so I have some
+extra time. If perhaps someone either from this team or maybe the
+document team has some approved language I could write a proposal for a
+Wikipedia update. Let me know what everyone thinks.
+
+Kind Regards,
+
+Digigold
+
+--
+
+
+ /&quot;A mind that is stretched by a new experience can never go back
+ to its old dimensions.&quot;/
+
+
+ *~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.*
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+&gt;<i> I tried to add some sites to the list in sandbox, but was denied permission.
+</I>
+You need to open a user account on <A HREF="http://identity.mageia.org/">http://identity.mageia.org/</A> and
+then you can edit the wiki.
+
+&gt;<i> The one of these that I felt could really use some urgent attention is
+</I>&gt;<i> Wikipedia. [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> If perhaps someone either from this team or maybe the document team
+</I>&gt;<i> has some approved language I could write a proposal for a Wikipedia update.
+</I>
+What do you suggest to write?
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+&gt;&gt;<i> The one of these that I felt could really use some urgent attention is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wikipedia. [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If perhaps someone either from this team or maybe the document team
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> has some approved language I could write a proposal for a Wikipedia update.
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you suggest to write?
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>I was thinking mostly just about expanding on features, mission,
+community, etc. I'm going through the archives now, but I am looking to
+see where I can currently be of the most help while my workload is
+lighter. Would you like me to write a mock page?
+--
+
+
+ /&quot;A mind that is stretched by a new experience can never go back
+ to its old dimensions.&quot;/
+
+
+ *~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.*
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+Did this initiative die, or what?
+
+On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
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+&gt;<i> We should probably leave this discussion for now and focus on founding
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the new group.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree.
+</I>&gt;<i> The way I see it we should have one group (never mind the name) with three
+</I>&gt;<i> virtual task forces.
+</I>&gt;<i> The task forces will not be real, just a sort of legacy issue for people
+</I>&gt;<i> from the old teams to have some initial direction in the new team. Ideally,
+</I>&gt;<i> everybody will contribute where he or she can.
+</I>&gt;<i> These three virtual task forces should, however, have a real coordinator.
+</I>&gt;<i> One person who is in charge of looking out for a specific field. Aside from
+</I>&gt;<i> that there should be a team leader, who should be one of the task force
+</I>&gt;<i> leaders.
+</I>&gt;<i> This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure: Someone willing to work
+</I>&gt;<i> on web design or a marketing poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate
+</I>&gt;<i> task coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other two what needs to
+</I>&gt;<i> be done for this by which task force, then one of these three (it doesn't
+</I>&gt;<i> really matter who) propagates that information back down to everybody else.
+</I>&gt;<i> It will work the same way in reverse. The three coordinators come up with
+</I>&gt;<i> the final list of things that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable
+</I>&gt;<i> input and discussion from everybody, of course) and then coordinate the
+</I>&gt;<i> tasks.
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that this allows for maximum communication and we don't end up
+</I>&gt;<i> with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.
+</I>&gt;<i> Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come up with their own
+</I>&gt;<i> ideas, plans, projects and whatnot and then act upon them as part of the
+</I>&gt;<i> group. Even if in the end they are working alone, the whole group is aware
+</I>&gt;<i> of what is going on.
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+ <B>Jonathan Ingold</B>
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+<PRE>On 06/17/2012 09:44 AM, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+&gt;<i> So...
+</I>&gt;<i> Did this initiative die, or what?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Max Quarterpleen
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We should probably leave this discussion for now and focus on
+</I>&gt;<i> founding
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the new group.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree.
+</I>&gt;<i> The way I see it we should have one group (never mind the name)
+</I>&gt;<i> with three virtual task forces.
+</I>&gt;<i> The task forces will not be real, just a sort of legacy issue for
+</I>&gt;<i> people from the old teams to have some initial direction in the
+</I>&gt;<i> new team. Ideally, everybody will contribute where he or she can.
+</I>&gt;<i> These three virtual task forces should, however, have a real
+</I>&gt;<i> coordinator. One person who is in charge of looking out for a
+</I>&gt;<i> specific field. Aside from that there should be a team leader, who
+</I>&gt;<i> should be one of the task force leaders.
+</I>&gt;<i> This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure: Someone willing
+</I>&gt;<i> to work on web design or a marketing poster or whatnot turns to
+</I>&gt;<i> the appropriate task coordinator. He or she then discusses with
+</I>&gt;<i> the other two what needs to be done for this by which task force,
+</I>&gt;<i> then one of these three (it doesn't really matter who) propagates
+</I>&gt;<i> that information back down to everybody else.
+</I>&gt;<i> It will work the same way in reverse. The three coordinators come
+</I>&gt;<i> up with the final list of things that need to be done for Mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> (with considerable input and discussion from everybody, of course)
+</I>&gt;<i> and then coordinate the tasks.
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that this allows for maximum communication and we don't
+</I>&gt;<i> end up with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.
+</I>&gt;<i> Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come up with
+</I>&gt;<i> their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot and then act upon
+</I>&gt;<i> them as part of the group. Even if in the end they are working
+</I>&gt;<i> alone, the whole group is aware of what is going on.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>So how bout someone with admin rights on ml.mageia.org creates an
+atelier or whatever list so we can at least start this.
+
+Also I have noticed that some people are adding their comments on top
+like the very email I am responding to. Does Mageia prefer top-adds or
+bottom adds?
+
+--
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+ to its old dimensions.&quot;/
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+
+&gt;<i> On 06/17/2012 09:44 AM, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So...
+</I>&gt;<i> Did this initiative die, or what?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We should probably leave this discussion for now and focus on founding
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the new group.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I agree.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The way I see it we should have one group (never mind the name) with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> three virtual task forces.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The task forces will not be real, just a sort of legacy issue for people
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from the old teams to have some initial direction in the new team. Ideally,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> everybody will contribute where he or she can.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> These three virtual task forces should, however, have a real coordinator.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> One person who is in charge of looking out for a specific field. Aside from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that there should be a team leader, who should be one of the task force
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> leaders.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure: Someone willing to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> work on web design or a marketing poster or whatnot turns to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> appropriate task coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other two
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> what needs to be done for this by which task force, then one of these three
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (it doesn't really matter who) propagates that information back down to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> everybody else.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It will work the same way in reverse. The three coordinators come up with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the final list of things that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> input and discussion from everybody, of course) and then coordinate the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tasks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think that this allows for maximum communication and we don't end up
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come up with their own
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ideas, plans, projects and whatnot and then act upon them as part of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> group. Even if in the end they are working alone, the whole group is aware
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of what is going on.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">listMageia-marketing at mageia.orghttps</A>://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So how bout someone with admin rights on ml.mageia.org creates an atelieror whatever list so we can at least start this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+It needs council approval first. That was supposed to happen last week but
+didn't, it might happen this week.
+I just wanted to know if there was anything else people wanted to discuss
+some more.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also I have noticed that some people are adding their comments on top like
+</I>&gt;<i> the very email I am responding to. Does Mageia prefer top-adds or bottom
+</I>&gt;<i> adds?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Mageia as a community prefers bottom or middle adds. I was just being lazy
+:<i>P
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> *&quot;A mind that is stretched by a new experience can never go back to its
+</I>&gt;<i> old dimensions.&quot;* *~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.*
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also I have noticed that some people are adding their comments on top like
+</I>&gt;<i> the very email I am responding to.&#160; Does Mageia prefer top-adds or bottom
+</I>&gt;<i> adds?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+On Mageia mailing lists we really prefer bottom adds, or more
+precisely the best behaviour is to trim the mailing you are replying
+to to insert your answers inline.
+
+See this mail from Patricia:
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-marketing/2012-March/000670.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-marketing/2012-March/000670.html</A>
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+BTW most users also prefer when the mails are text-only instead of HTML mails.
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+Regards,
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+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; So...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Did this initiative die, or what?
+</I>
+We need 2 things (maybe 3): mailing list, wiki page, irc channel.
+
+We can start the wiki page ourselves, and start adding tasks and a plan
+to it; we can use this list until the atelier list is added; we can use
+the marcom irc channel until the atelier channel is started.
+
+It&#180;s not necessary to actually wait any longer to begin - we can just
+go for it.
+
+I have very little time to do these nitty-gritty things, but I'll join
+in when I can; I would say, go for it!
+
+Cheers,
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+<PRE>Il 09/06/2012 18:27, Romain d'Alverny ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone, (xposted on -marketing, -artwork and -webteam; if
+</I>&gt;<i> possible, please follow-up in -marketing)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So here's the plan (actually, that's a suggestion of a plan):
+</I>&gt;<i> - we make a new team; which role is to think, design, produce and
+</I>&gt;<i> maintain the identity of the project and its declinations in messages,
+</I>&gt;<i> graphics, Web and print [1];
+</I>&gt;<i> - this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i> - a new mailing-list is open for that;
+</I>&gt;<i> - it practically merges responsibilities from artwork, web and marcom teams;
+</I>&gt;<i> - it integrates roles as diverse as: design, marketing, graphic
+</I>&gt;<i> research and production, copy writing, web design, integration and
+</I>&gt;<i> development, curation, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but
+</I>&gt;<i> locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;
+</I>&gt;<i> - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making
+</I>&gt;<i> and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,
+</I>&gt;<i> graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still
+</I>&gt;<i> welcome, but not enough to move forward;
+</I>&gt;<i> - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer
+</I>&gt;<i> getting in touch/inviting a professional person to propose and work on
+</I>&gt;<i> a specific, focused topic, from overall project identity design, down
+</I>&gt;<i> to a specific production. It only needs to be stated within the team
+</I>&gt;<i> first so that everyone is in sync;
+</I>&gt;<i> - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from
+</I>&gt;<i> external people are made easier is a true option too (that means
+</I>&gt;<i> things easier to grasp, understand and update);
+</I>&gt;<i> - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through
+</I>&gt;<i> the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not
+</I>&gt;<i> a must, just good to have;
+</I>&gt;<i> - no more than 10 hours a week on Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Questions:
+</I>&gt;<i> - who's going to lead this?
+</I>&gt;<i> - what's the plan up to Mageia 3? several things at least in several
+</I>&gt;<i> regards (identity, print, web, distribution), but that will highly
+</I>&gt;<i> depend on who lead(s) the team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] ideally, everything that's the public face of Mageia.Org, the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia distribution and the Mageia project should go through this
+</I>&gt;<i> team; that does not mean that things will not be flexible, but if
+</I>&gt;<i> there's one place to discuss, document and synchronize all this work,
+</I>&gt;<i> it's here. That, in turn, requires some responsiveness and initiative
+</I>&gt;<i> from the team members.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
+
+ok for this, but for marketing team what is needed is not a new ml, but
+real marketing objectives and people dedicated to them. what should do a
+marketing team is not (at least, only) writing blog post announces and
+things like that, but planning:
+
+- marketing-plan
+- balanced scorecard
+
+in plus, we need people from dev and artwork that follow our suggestions
+and our plans (naturally, the plans should be agreed also by them). i
+can help in these areas of long-term view, i cannot follow tasks that
+should be done in a day. the paucity of linux is proper in the missing
+of a long-term view, where all the aspects of the project are taken in
+considerations and priorities are set and done.
+
+Bugzilla 4 is a perfect example of what should do a marketing team
+(atelier, if you prefer) for real. Bugzilla would help qa team work,
+would improve the overall quality of the distro and would allow to
+manage bugs that affect different versions, but instead of porting it,
+we're at mageia 3 specs... useless
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Marcello &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> ok for this, but for marketing team what is needed is not a new ml, but real
+</I>&gt;<i> marketing objectives and people dedicated to them. what should do a
+</I>&gt;<i> marketing team is not (at least, only) writing blog post announces and
+</I>&gt;<i> things like that, but planning:
+</I>&gt;<i> - marketing-plan
+</I>&gt;<i> - balanced scorecard
+</I>
+Among other things yes. Just propose and see if it can build from there.
+
+&gt;<i> in plus, we need people from dev and artwork that follow our suggestions and
+</I>&gt;<i> our plans (naturally, the plans should be agreed also by them). i can help
+</I>&gt;<i> in these areas of long-term view, i cannot follow tasks that should be done
+</I>&gt;<i> in a day.
+</I>
+But that's a problem. If you can't lead, follow or make things here,
+you're out of phase.
+
+&gt;<i> Bugzilla 4 is a perfect example of what should do a marketing team (atelier,
+</I>&gt;<i> if you prefer) for real. Bugzilla would help qa team work, would improve the
+</I>&gt;<i> overall quality of the distro and would allow to manage bugs that affect
+</I>&gt;<i> different versions, but instead of porting it, we're at mageia 3 specs...
+</I>&gt;<i> useless
+</I>
+Useless to you, from your point of view. Not useless to everyone.
+Unless you can't embrace the whole thing, you can't even start
+thinking about a marketing plan.
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>Il 18/06/2012 15:49, Romain d'Alverny ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Marcello&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ok for this, but for marketing team what is needed is not a new ml, but real
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> marketing objectives and people dedicated to them. what should do a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> marketing team is not (at least, only) writing blog post announces and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> things like that, but planning:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - marketing-plan
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - balanced scorecard
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Among other things yes. Just propose and see if it can build from there.
+</I>
+ok, i will start a thread there asking to devs if there is someone who
+wants to follow marketing team plans... here is there anyone who is able
+to contribute regarding this?
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in plus, we need people from dev and artwork that follow our suggestions and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> our plans (naturally, the plans should be agreed also by them). i can help
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in these areas of long-term view, i cannot follow tasks that should be done
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in a day.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But that's a problem. If you can't lead, follow or make things here,
+</I>&gt;<i> you're out of phase.
+</I>
+i don't want lead, i would simply contributing in what a marketing team
+is expected to do.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Bugzilla 4 is a perfect example of what should do a marketing team (atelier,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if you prefer) for real. Bugzilla would help qa team work, would improve the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> overall quality of the distro and would allow to manage bugs that affect
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> different versions, but instead of porting it, we're at mageia 3 specs...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> useless
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Useless to you, from your point of view. Not useless to everyone.
+</I>
+not useless in the short-term, useless in a long-term horizont. if you
+don't have a long sight, you resolve small issues as they verify,
+missing the real things that should be done to assure the success in the
+long period. bugzilla is one of this: now everyone is involved in
+proposing new feauture that will improve the distro, but there is a
+single tool that influence many aspects that isn't taken in consideration
+
+
+&gt;<i> Unless you can't embrace the whole thing, you can't even start
+</I>&gt;<i> thinking about a marketing plan.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________
+</I>
+ehm... what do you mean with this prashe?
+
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
+
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+&gt;<i> Il 18/06/2012 15:49, Romain d'Alverny ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Marcello&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ok for this, but for marketing team what is needed is not a new ml, but real
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> marketing objectives and people dedicated to them. what should do a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> marketing team is not (at least, only) writing blog post announces and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> things like that, but planning:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - marketing-plan
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - balanced scorecard
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Among other things yes. Just propose and see if it can build from there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ok, i will start a thread there asking to devs if there is someone who
+</I>&gt;<i> wants to follow marketing team plans... here is there anyone who is able to
+</I>&gt;<i> contribute regarding this?
+</I>
+Before asking people to follow marketing team plans, those plans
+should exist.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in plus, we need people from dev and artwork that follow our suggestions and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> our plans (naturally, the plans should be agreed also by them). i can help
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in these areas of long-term view, i cannot follow tasks that should be done
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in a day.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But that's a problem. If you can't lead, follow or make things here,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you're out of phase.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i don't want lead, i would simply contributing in what a marketing team is
+</I>&gt;<i> expected to do.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Bugzilla 4 is a perfect example of what should do a marketing team (atelier,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> if you prefer) for real. Bugzilla would help qa team work, would improve the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> overall quality of the distro and would allow to manage bugs that affect
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> different versions, but instead of porting it, we're at mageia 3 specs...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> useless
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Useless to you, from your point of view. Not useless to everyone.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> not useless in the short-term, useless in a long-term horizont. if you
+</I>&gt;<i> don't have a long sight, you resolve small issues as they verify, missing
+</I>&gt;<i> the real things that should be done to assure the success in the long
+</I>&gt;<i> period. bugzilla is one of this: now everyone is involved in proposing new
+</I>&gt;<i> feauture that will improve the distro, but there is a single tool that
+</I>&gt;<i> influence many aspects that isn't taken in consideration
+</I>
+Bugzilla upgrade is already planned, but it has nothing to do with new
+feature proposals or marketing, and is not something that will &quot;assure
+the success in the long period&quot;, it's just one of the many tools we use
+to create the distribution.
+
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Marcello &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> ok, i will start a thread there asking to devs if there is someone who wants
+</I>&gt;<i> to follow marketing team plans...
+</I>
+It doesn't work like that (and you've been told this several times in
+the past years). You won't find people that will follow on principle.
+You will need to convince/demonstrate that your plan is worth it, and
+start it on your own first. And you will see as many people join as
+they see their own interest in contributing.
+
+&gt;<i> here is there anyone who is able to contribute regarding this?
+</I>
+Don't wait. Start, propose, do. And see if it gains momentum.
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> different versions, but instead of porting it, we're at mageia 3 specs...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> useless
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unless you can't embrace the whole thing, you can't even start
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thinking about a marketing plan.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ehm... what do you mean with this prashe?
+</I>
+It means that, in addition to a vision, if you don't have an
+understanding of the small pieces and of the people that make this
+project and of the reasons they do it, designing a marketing plan for
+the project is a waste of time. For the same reason as above.
+
+If you want to contribute, start with something small here (your own
+idea, or one need already expressed), define it, advocate it and build
+it. And repeat.
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+<PRE>Il 18/06/2012 16:56, nicolas vigier ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012, Marcello wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Il 18/06/2012 15:49, Romain d'Alverny ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Marcello&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ok for this, but for marketing team what is needed is not a new ml, but real
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> marketing objectives and people dedicated to them. what should do a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> marketing team is not (at least, only) writing blog post announces and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> things like that, but planning:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - marketing-plan
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - balanced scorecard
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Among other things yes. Just propose and see if it can build from there.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ok, i will start a thread there asking to devs if there is someone who
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wants to follow marketing team plans... here is there anyone who is able to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> contribute regarding this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Before asking people to follow marketing team plans, those plans
+</I>&gt;<i> should exist.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in plus, we need people from dev and artwork that follow our suggestions and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> our plans (naturally, the plans should be agreed also by them). i can help
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in these areas of long-term view, i cannot follow tasks that should be done
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in a day.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But that's a problem. If you can't lead, follow or make things here,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> you're out of phase.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i don't want lead, i would simply contributing in what a marketing team is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> expected to do.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Bugzilla 4 is a perfect example of what should do a marketing team (atelier,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> if you prefer) for real. Bugzilla would help qa team work, would improve the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> overall quality of the distro and would allow to manage bugs that affect
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> different versions, but instead of porting it, we're at mageia 3 specs...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> useless
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Useless to you, from your point of view. Not useless to everyone.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not useless in the short-term, useless in a long-term horizont. if you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> don't have a long sight, you resolve small issues as they verify, missing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the real things that should be done to assure the success in the long
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> period. bugzilla is one of this: now everyone is involved in proposing new
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> feauture that will improve the distro, but there is a single tool that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> influence many aspects that isn't taken in consideration
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bugzilla upgrade is already planned, but it has nothing to do with new
+</I>&gt;<i> feature proposals or marketing, and is not something that will &quot;assure
+</I>&gt;<i> the success in the long period&quot;, it's just one of the many tools we use
+</I>&gt;<i> to create the distribution.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+with marketing yes because: better bugs management-&gt; better distro
+quality-&gt; better user satisfaction-&gt; marketing. something that will
+assue success in the long period is not something defined by itself, but
+it has to be chosen considering the vision, the mission, the values... i
+think that reading the values quality is one of the key feature, and
+what is the most important thing that assures quality? bugzilla. what
+has the new bugzilla to implement it in our framework? this (only in 4.0
+release):
+
+<A HREF="http://www.bugzilla.org/releases/4.0/release-notes.html#v40_feat">http://www.bugzilla.org/releases/4.0/release-notes.html#v40_feat</A>
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+<PRE>Il 18/06/2012 17:34, Romain d'Alverny ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Marcello&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ok, i will start a thread there asking to devs if there is someone who wants
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to follow marketing team plans...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It doesn't work like that (and you've been told this several times in
+</I>&gt;<i> the past years). You won't find people that will follow on principle.
+</I>&gt;<i> You will need to convince/demonstrate that your plan is worth it, and
+</I>&gt;<i> start it on your own first. And you will see as many people join as
+</I>&gt;<i> they see their own interest in contributing.
+</I>
+the plan has to been promoted by mageia.org to have the proability to
+have a minimum of success. and to complete the plan it is necessary to
+have the partecipation of many people, because i don't have many skills
+needed to complete it.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here is there anyone who is able to contribute regarding this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't wait. Start, propose, do. And see if it gains momentum.
+</I>
+the problem is that i can only propose because i study economics, not
+information technology. if you read my commments
+(<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40</A>) is what i'm doing since
+mageia born, but i don't think i'm quite useful except for filling some bugs
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> different versions, but instead of porting it, we're at mageia 3 specs...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> useless
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Unless you can't embrace the whole thing, you can't even start
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> thinking about a marketing plan.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ehm... what do you mean with this prashe?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It means that, in addition to a vision, if you don't have an
+</I>&gt;<i> understanding of the small pieces and of the people that make this
+</I>&gt;<i> project and of the reasons they do it, designing a marketing plan for
+</I>&gt;<i> the project is a waste of time. For the same reason as above.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to contribute, start with something small here (your own
+</I>&gt;<i> idea, or one need already expressed), define it, advocate it and build
+</I>&gt;<i> it. And repeat.
+</I>
+as above, it's what i'm doing since a lot of time (do you remember the
+critics i made in the MUGS of mandriva? after a few years they
+understood they're wrong and they are re-implementing something like
+this). the marketing plan is not a waste of time, but it has to be
+shared among all the mageia community, unless it looses the elements
+that makes it a key tool for all the major companies in the world:
+coherence, long-time view, short-time approach, priorities and coherent
+actions.
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+ <B>Sebastian</B>
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+<PRE>Hi
+
+For those that don't know three Mageia teams are merging into the
+Atelier team, and they are, artwork, marketing and communications, and
+web team.
+
+On Sunday I thought about setting up the IRC channel myself, and then on
+Monday I helped RDA set it up properly, and then got some people to join.
+
+The idea of the Atelier IRC channel is to replace separate team channels
+with it, so please stop using the separate team channels, and start
+using the #mageia-atelier channel instead.
+
+Sebastian
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+ <I>Thu Jun 21 12:16:42 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+Would anyone who is interested in continuing to do marketing,
+communication, artwork or web-presence related work for Mageia, please
+subscribe to the atelier-discuss list?
+
+The Atelier team will be taking over from Marcom, Artwork and Webteam,
+and the current lists will be closed after a while.
+
+You need to have a Mageia identity registered before you join the
+atelier-discuss list; once you have that, go here to join:
+
+<A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</A>
+
+See you there!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 linuxcounter.net
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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] New mailing list">marc at marcpare.com
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+ <I>Thu Jun 21 19:32:20 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi Patricia
+
+Le 2012-06-21 06:16, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would anyone who is interested in continuing to do marketing,
+</I>&gt;<i> communication, artwork or web-presence related work for Mageia, please
+</I>&gt;<i> subscribe to the atelier-discuss list?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The Atelier team will be taking over from Marcom, Artwork and Webteam,
+</I>&gt;<i> and the current lists will be closed after a while.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You need to have a Mageia identity registered before you join the
+</I>&gt;<i> atelier-discuss list; once you have that, go here to join:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See you there!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>My apologies. I had a &quot;Duh&quot; moment and now see the login at the top of
+the page.
+
+Sorry,
+
+Marc
+
+--
+Marc Par&#233;
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Marc at MarcPare.com</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</A>
+parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+parEntreprise.com Supports <A HREF="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</A>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] New mailing list">marc at marcpare.com
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Thu Jun 21 19:13:07 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Bonjour Patricia,
+
+Le 2012-06-21 06:16, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would anyone who is interested in continuing to do marketing,
+</I>&gt;<i> communication, artwork or web-presence related work for Mageia, please
+</I>&gt;<i> subscribe to the atelier-discuss list?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The Atelier team will be taking over from Marcom, Artwork and Webteam,
+</I>&gt;<i> and the current lists will be closed after a while.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You need to have a Mageia identity registered before you join the
+</I>&gt;<i> atelier-discuss list; once you have that, go here to join:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See you there!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
+Where do I log in to join the mailing list? There does not seem to be a
+log-in window. I think there is supposed to be a link to the log-in page.
+
+Could you also please update the sentence that appears when you click on
+&quot;Subscribe&quot;? it reads:
+
+&quot;In order to subscribe to the list, you should open a account on our
+account system. &lt;<A HREF="http://identity.mageia.org/">http://identity.mageia.org/</A>&gt;.
+If you already have one, please log using your account in order to
+subscribe.&quot;
+
+It should say:
+
+&quot;In order to subscribe to the list, you should open a account on our
+account system. &lt;<A HREF="http://identity.mageia.org/">http://identity.mageia.org/</A>&gt;.
+If you already have one, please log-in using your account in order to
+subscribe.&quot;
+
+Also, on the Mageia site, the mailing list does not appear to be on
+&quot;Marcom&quot; team page which still encourages people to join the
+&quot;mageia-marketing&quot; list.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+--
+Marc Par&#233;
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Marc at MarcPare.com</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</A>
+parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+parEntreprise.com Supports <A HREF="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</A>
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+<PRE>Hi Patricia,
+
+Le 2012-06-21 06:16, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would anyone who is interested in continuing to do marketing,
+</I>&gt;<i> communication, artwork or web-presence related work for Mageia, please
+</I>&gt;<i> subscribe to the atelier-discuss list?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The Atelier team will be taking over from Marcom, Artwork and Webteam,
+</I>&gt;<i> and the current lists will be closed after a while.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You need to have a Mageia identity registered before you join the
+</I>&gt;<i> atelier-discuss list; once you have that, go here to join:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See you there!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
+I also forgot to ask if the list will be added to Gmane?
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+--
+Marc Par&#233;
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Marc at MarcPare.com</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</A>
+parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+parEntreprise.com Supports <A HREF="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</A>
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+ <b>Messages:</b> 52<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000934.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install party planned ?
+</A><A NAME="934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Beno&#238;t Audouard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000913.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install party planned ?
+</A><A NAME="913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Beno&#238;t Audouard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000915.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install party planned ?
+</A><A NAME="915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Beno&#238;t Audouard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000941.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Beno&#238;t Audouard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000906.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000909.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000923.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000924.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000950.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000959.html">[Mageia-marketing] New mailing list
+</A><A NAME="959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000910.html">[Mageia-marketing] IRC meeting reminder?
+</A><A NAME="910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rupert Horstk&#246;tter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000932.html">[Mageia-marketing] Greetings Fellow Penguin Lovers...
+</A><A NAME="932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000933.html">[Mageia-marketing] Greetings Fellow Penguin Lovers...
+</A><A NAME="933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000935.html">[Mageia-marketing] We have a new member
+</A><A NAME="935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000916.html">[Mageia-marketing] Greetings Fellow Penguin Lovers...
+</A><A NAME="916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000943.html">[Mageia-marketing] Lets build some excitement!
+</A><A NAME="943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000945.html">[Mageia-marketing] Lets build some excitement!
+</A><A NAME="945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000947.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000951.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000953.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000956.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000957.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000961.html">[Mageia-marketing] New mailing list
+</A><A NAME="961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000962.html">[Mageia-marketing] New mailing list
+</A><A NAME="962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000960.html">[Mageia-marketing] New mailing list
+</A><A NAME="960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000918.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000920.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000937.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000938.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageia on my website
+</A><A NAME="938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000942.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000946.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000948.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000907.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000911.html">[Mageia-marketing] IRC meeting reminder?
+</A><A NAME="911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000912.html">[Mageia-marketing] We have a new member
+</A><A NAME="912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000914.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install party planned ?
+</A><A NAME="914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000925.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000958.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Atelier IRC channel
+</A><A NAME="958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000908.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000922.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000936.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000940.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000939.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000949.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000917.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000919.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000921.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000926.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000944.html">[Mageia-marketing] Lets build some excitement!
+</A><A NAME="944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000952.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000955.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000954.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Jun 21 19:32:20 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Jun 21 19:50:29 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>June 2012 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jun 4 14:22:58 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Jun 21 19:32:20 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 52<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000906.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000907.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000908.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000909.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000932.html">[Mageia-marketing] Greetings Fellow Penguin Lovers...
+</A><A NAME="932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000933.html">[Mageia-marketing] Greetings Fellow Penguin Lovers...
+</A><A NAME="933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000910.html">[Mageia-marketing] IRC meeting reminder?
+</A><A NAME="910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rupert Horstk&#246;tter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000911.html">[Mageia-marketing] IRC meeting reminder?
+</A><A NAME="911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000912.html">[Mageia-marketing] We have a new member
+</A><A NAME="912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000934.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install party planned ?
+</A><A NAME="934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Beno&#238;t Audouard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000913.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install party planned ?
+</A><A NAME="913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Beno&#238;t Audouard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000914.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install party planned ?
+</A><A NAME="914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000915.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install party planned ?
+</A><A NAME="915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Beno&#238;t Audouard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000935.html">[Mageia-marketing] We have a new member
+</A><A NAME="935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000916.html">[Mageia-marketing] Greetings Fellow Penguin Lovers...
+</A><A NAME="916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000917.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000918.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000919.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000920.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000921.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000922.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000923.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000924.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000925.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000926.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000936.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000937.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000938.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageia on my website
+</A><A NAME="938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000939.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000940.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000941.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Beno&#238;t Audouard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000942.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000943.html">[Mageia-marketing] Lets build some excitement!
+</A><A NAME="943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000944.html">[Mageia-marketing] Lets build some excitement!
+</A><A NAME="944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000945.html">[Mageia-marketing] Lets build some excitement!
+</A><A NAME="945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000946.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000947.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000948.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000949.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000950.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000951.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000952.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000953.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000954.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000955.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000956.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000957.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000958.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Atelier IRC channel
+</A><A NAME="958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000959.html">[Mageia-marketing] New mailing list
+</A><A NAME="959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000961.html">[Mageia-marketing] New mailing list
+</A><A NAME="961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000962.html">[Mageia-marketing] New mailing list
+</A><A NAME="962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000960.html">[Mageia-marketing] New mailing list
+</A><A NAME="960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Jun 21 19:32:20 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Jun 21 19:50:29 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <a name="start"></A>
+ <h1>June 2012 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jun 4 14:22:58 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Jun 21 19:32:20 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 52<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000932.html">[Mageia-marketing] Greetings Fellow Penguin Lovers...
+</A><A NAME="932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000933.html">[Mageia-marketing] Greetings Fellow Penguin Lovers...
+</A><A NAME="933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000916.html">[Mageia-marketing] Greetings Fellow Penguin Lovers...
+</A><A NAME="916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000934.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install party planned ?
+</A><A NAME="934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Beno&#238;t Audouard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000913.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install party planned ?
+</A><A NAME="913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Beno&#238;t Audouard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000914.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install party planned ?
+</A><A NAME="914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000915.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install party planned ?
+</A><A NAME="915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Beno&#238;t Audouard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000910.html">[Mageia-marketing] IRC meeting reminder?
+</A><A NAME="910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rupert Horstk&#246;tter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000911.html">[Mageia-marketing] IRC meeting reminder?
+</A><A NAME="911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000943.html">[Mageia-marketing] Lets build some excitement!
+</A><A NAME="943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000944.html">[Mageia-marketing] Lets build some excitement!
+</A><A NAME="944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000945.html">[Mageia-marketing] Lets build some excitement!
+</A><A NAME="945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000958.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Atelier IRC channel
+</A><A NAME="958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000938.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageia on my website
+</A><A NAME="938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000917.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000918.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000919.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000920.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000921.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000922.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000923.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000924.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000925.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000926.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000936.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000937.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000939.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000940.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000941.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Beno&#238;t Audouard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000942.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000946.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000947.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000948.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000949.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000950.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000951.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000952.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000953.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000954.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000955.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000956.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000957.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000959.html">[Mageia-marketing] New mailing list
+</A><A NAME="959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000961.html">[Mageia-marketing] New mailing list
+</A><A NAME="961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000962.html">[Mageia-marketing] New mailing list
+</A><A NAME="962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000960.html">[Mageia-marketing] New mailing list
+</A><A NAME="960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000906.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000907.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000908.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000909.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000912.html">[Mageia-marketing] We have a new member
+</A><A NAME="912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000935.html">[Mageia-marketing] We have a new member
+</A><A NAME="935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Jun 21 19:32:20 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Jun 21 19:50:29 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
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+ <h1>June 2012 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jun 4 14:22:58 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Jun 21 19:32:20 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 52<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01338812578- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000906.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01338812578-01338815385- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000907.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01338812578-01338815385-01338857624- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000909.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01338842735- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000908.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01338988331- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000932.html">[Mageia-marketing] Greetings Fellow Penguin Lovers...
+</A><A NAME="932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01338998705- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000933.html">[Mageia-marketing] Greetings Fellow Penguin Lovers...
+</A><A NAME="933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01339030780- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000910.html">[Mageia-marketing] IRC meeting reminder?
+</A><A NAME="910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rupert Horstk&#246;tter
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01339030780-01339096836- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000911.html">[Mageia-marketing] IRC meeting reminder?
+</A><A NAME="911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01339097238- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000912.html">[Mageia-marketing] We have a new member
+</A><A NAME="912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01339097238-01339200443- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000935.html">[Mageia-marketing] We have a new member
+</A><A NAME="935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01339099945- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000934.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install party planned ?
+</A><A NAME="934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Beno&#238;t Audouard
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01339103119- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000913.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install party planned ?
+</A><A NAME="913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Beno&#238;t Audouard
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01339103119-01339104129- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000914.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install party planned ?
+</A><A NAME="914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01339103119-01339104129-01339105179- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000915.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install party planned ?
+</A><A NAME="915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Beno&#238;t Audouard
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01339236191- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000916.html">[Mageia-marketing] Greetings Fellow Penguin Lovers...
+</A><A NAME="916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01339259221- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000917.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01339259221-01339333424- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000918.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01339259221-01339333424-01339402812- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000919.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01339259221-01339333424-01339402812-01339405318- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000920.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01339259221-01339333424-01339402812-01339405318-01339416750- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000921.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01339259221-01339333424-01339402812-01339405318-01339416828- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000922.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01339259221-01339333424-01339417570- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000924.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01339259221-01339333424-01339417570-01339419196- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000925.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01339259221-01339333424-01339417570-01339419196-01339425499- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000926.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01339259221-01339333424-01339417570-01339419196-01339425499-01339448817- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000941.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Beno&#238;t Audouard
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01339259221-01339416949- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000923.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01339259221-01339416949-01339434230- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000939.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01339259221-01339537097- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000943.html">[Mageia-marketing] Lets build some excitement!
+</A><A NAME="943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01339259221-01339537097-01339542955- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000944.html">[Mageia-marketing] Lets build some excitement!
+</A><A NAME="944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01339259221-01339537097-01339542955-01339543819- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000945.html">[Mageia-marketing] Lets build some excitement!
+</A><A NAME="945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01339259221-01340023607- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000951.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01339259221-01340023607-01340027346- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000952.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01339259221-01340023607-01340027346-01340029798- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000953.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01339259221-01340023607-01340027346-01340029798-01340031371- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000954.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01339259221-01340023607-01340027346-01340029798-01340031371-01340039574- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000956.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01339259221-01340023607-01340027346-01340029798-01340033674- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000955.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01339259221-01340023607-01340027346-01340029798-01340033674-01340040292- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000957.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01339428193- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000936.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01339428193-01339429230- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000937.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01339428193-01339429230-01339446251- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000940.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01339428193-01339429230-01339446251-01339454341- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000942.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01339428193-01339429230-01339446251-01339454341-01339940677- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000946.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01339428193-01339429230-01339446251-01339454341-01339940677-01339941672- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000947.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jonathan Ingold
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01339428193-01339429230-01339446251-01339454341-01339940677-01339941672-01339942850- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000948.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01339428193-01339429230-01339446251-01339454341-01339940677-01339941672-01339942850-01339969834- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000950.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01339428193-01339429230-01339446251-01339454341-01339940677-01339941672-01339942976- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000949.html">[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?
+</A><A NAME="949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01339429460- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000938.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageia on my website
+</A><A NAME="938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01340218508- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000958.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia Atelier IRC channel
+</A><A NAME="958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01340273802- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000959.html">[Mageia-marketing] New mailing list
+</A><A NAME="959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01340273802-01340298787- -->
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+<PRE>Hi Trish
+
+As you know you asked me on IRC for more information about the IRC cloaks.
+
+Mageia needs to be registered first on Freenode as a group. Whoever set
+up the original Mageia channels such as #mageia and #mageia-dev has
+hopefully probably already done this over a year ago.
+
+Then once Mageia is officially registered with Freenode, a group contact
+can do certain things such as asking the Freenode staff to give
+contributors IRC cloaks.
+
+I already knew about this, but my other email didn't explain how to do it.
+
+Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested, and here
+are links:
+
+<A HREF="http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml">http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration</A>
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+
+<A HREF="http://freenode.net/gms.shtml">http://freenode.net/gms.shtml</A>
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+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<PRE>Hi Seb,
+
+I'll take a look at this on the weekend and come back if I have
+questions - thanks for the hard work!
+
+&gt;<i> As you know you asked me on IRC for more information about the IRC
+</I>&gt;<i> cloaks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia needs to be registered first on Freenode as a group. Whoever
+</I>&gt;<i> set up the original Mageia channels such as #mageia and #mageia-dev
+</I>&gt;<i> has hopefully probably already done this over a year ago.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then once Mageia is officially registered with Freenode, a group
+</I>&gt;<i> contact can do certain things such as asking the Freenode staff to
+</I>&gt;<i> give contributors IRC cloaks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I already knew about this, but my other email didn't explain how to
+</I>&gt;<i> do it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested, and
+</I>&gt;<i> here are links:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml">http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml">http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/gms.shtml">http://freenode.net/gms.shtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
+
+
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Fri Mar 2 12:14:30 EST 2012
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hi Seb,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll take a look at this on the weekend and come back if I have
+</I>&gt;<i> questions
+</I>Ok :).
+&gt;<i> - thanks for the hard work!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As you know you asked me on IRC for more information about the IRC
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cloaks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia needs to be registered first on Freenode as a group. Whoever
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> set up the original Mageia channels such as #mageia and #mageia-dev
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> has hopefully probably already done this over a year ago.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Then once Mageia is officially registered with Freenode, a group
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> contact can do certain things such as asking the Freenode staff to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> give contributors IRC cloaks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I already knew about this, but my other email didn't explain how to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> do it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here are links:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml">http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml">http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/gms.shtml">http://freenode.net/gms.shtml</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> From Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+We have to hold our team elections this month. This means electing a
+team leader and a deputy leader.
+
+At the moment we have a team leader (me) and a very quiet team. Now is
+the time to raise your head, and at least vote, or even stand for one
+of the positions - we need you!
+
+I'm happy to stand if nobody comes forward, but I'd really like to see
+some people step up for at least one of the positions.
+
+Cheers!
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
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+<PRE>On 03/05/2012 03:12 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have to hold our team elections this month. This means electing a
+</I>&gt;<i> team leader and a deputy leader.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At the moment we have a team leader (me) and a very quiet team. Now is
+</I>&gt;<i> the time to raise your head, and at least vote, or even stand for one
+</I>&gt;<i> of the positions - we need you!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm happy to stand if nobody comes forward, but I'd really like to see
+</I>&gt;<i> some people step up for at least one of the positions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>
+I'd be happy to assist as deputy team leader. I'd love to be more active
+in marketing, and this may be a good opportunity for me. I do have some
+experience with marketing and community relationship building.
+
+Is there anything else required to volunteer to be on the ballot?
+
+Thanks!
+Josh
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Josh!
+
+&gt;<i> I'd be happy to assist as deputy team leader. I'd love to be more
+</I>&gt;<i> active in marketing, and this may be a good opportunity for me. I do
+</I>&gt;<i> have some experience with marketing and community relationship
+</I>&gt;<i> building.
+</I>
+Brilliant - thanks for stepping up!
+
+&gt;<i> Is there anything else required to volunteer to be on the ballot?
+</I>
+Not that I know of! Just being willing is more than enough - we're all
+working it out as we go along.
+
+So, candidates at the moment are:
+
+Me
+Josh
+
+- anyone else want to pitch in?
+
+Cheers!
+
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hi Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd be happy to assist as deputy team leader. I'd love to be more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> active in marketing, and this may be a good opportunity for me. I do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have some experience with marketing and community relationship
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> building.
+</I>&gt;<i> Brilliant - thanks for stepping up!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is there anything else required to volunteer to be on the ballot?
+</I>&gt;<i> Not that I know of! Just being willing is more than enough - we're all
+</I>&gt;<i> working it out as we go along.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, candidates at the moment are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Me
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - anyone else want to pitch in?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>Hi
+
+I was wondering when Trish would email about that since i18n has been
+sorting out theirs.
+
+According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two people
+can have the same position as well:
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</A>
+
+What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader exactly?
+I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in the council
+meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down for a vote on
+being a representative, however I would like to do this with someone
+else as well such as Trish.
+
+This is what I would like I think:
+
+Leader: Trish
+Deputy Leader: Josh
+Council representatives: Trish and myself
+
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was wondering when Trish would email about that since i18n has been
+</I>&gt;<i> sorting out theirs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+</I>&gt;<i> leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two people
+</I>&gt;<i> can have the same position as well:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader exactly?
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in the council
+</I>&gt;<i> meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down for a vote on
+</I>&gt;<i> being a representative, however I would like to do this with someone
+</I>&gt;<i> else as well such as Trish.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is what I would like I think:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Leader: Trish
+</I>&gt;<i> Deputy Leader: Josh
+</I>&gt;<i> Council representatives: Trish and myself
+</I>
+This looks good to me. I'll second this same ballot.
+
+
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+&gt;<i> On 03/05/2012 04:59 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was wondering when Trish would email about that since i18n has been
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sorting out theirs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two people
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> can have the same position as well:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader exactly?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in the council
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down for a vote on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> being a representative, however I would like to do this with someone
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> else as well such as Trish.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is what I would like I think:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Leader: Trish
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Deputy Leader: Josh
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Council representatives: Trish and myself
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This looks good to me. I'll second this same ballot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Ok good :).
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+&gt;<i> According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+</I>&gt;<i> leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two
+</I>&gt;<i> people can have the same position as well:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader
+</I>&gt;<i> exactly? I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in
+</I>&gt;<i> the council meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down
+</I>&gt;<i> for a vote on being a representative, however I would like to do this
+</I>&gt;<i> with someone else as well such as Trish.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is what I would like I think:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Leader: Trish
+</I>&gt;<i> Deputy Leader: Josh
+</I>&gt;<i> Council representatives: Trish and myself
+</I>
+I'm not sure whether we get 2 slots on council - I'll ask. Someone
+mentioned it at the meeting today, but I didn't think the answer was
+very clear.
+
+So, let's see if anyone else puts their hand up - give it 24-48 hours
+for the time zones to go round, and then we'll vote, okay?
+
+Cheers!
+
+
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Trish
+
+Good this is being done now. I thought about contacting you about it,
+because the translations team (i18n) was doing it.
+
+Agreed it was not clear in the meeting about how many people could be
+team council representatives.
+
+Sounds good to me giving it 24-48 hours or so for the time zones, and
+then voting :).
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+
+On 05/03/12 23:41, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people can have the same position as well:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> exactly? I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the council meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for a vote on being a representative, however I would like to do this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with someone else as well such as Trish.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is what I would like I think:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Leader: Trish
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Deputy Leader: Josh
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Council representatives: Trish and myself
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure whether we get 2 slots on council - I'll ask. Someone
+</I>&gt;<i> mentioned it at the meeting today, but I didn't think the answer was
+</I>&gt;<i> very clear.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, let's see if anyone else puts their hand up - give it 24-48 hours
+</I>&gt;<i> for the time zones to go round, and then we'll vote, okay?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+On 03/05/2012 04:07 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Trish
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good this is being done now. I thought about contacting you about it,
+</I>&gt;<i> because the translations team (i18n) was doing it.
+</I>
+Hi Sebastian,
+
+I'm not really sure what the context of your reply is supposed to be
+addressing. Perhaps it is because you top-posted and therefore the
+context of the thread was lost?
+
+So I'll just ask:
+
+1.) What is being done now?
+
+2.) You thought about contacting Trish about what?
+
+3.) What is the i18n team doing about what?
+
+Also, if you have a moment, pls see...
+<A HREF="http://bit.ly/wAOrkk">http://bit.ly/wAOrkk</A>
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+Hi Bradley,
+
+&gt;<i> Also, if you have a moment, pls see...
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://bit.ly/wAOrkk">http://bit.ly/wAOrkk</A>
+</I>
+This is a great resource! Thanks for posting it. I've been a bit lax
+myself in the top-posting and trimming - associating with too many
+people at work who just don't know the right way (and get mad if you
+tell them).
+
+As an aside, are you standing or voting in the team election, or both?
+
+Cheers!
+
+- --
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+On 03/05/2012 01:12 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have to hold our team elections this month. This means electing a
+</I>&gt;<i> team leader and a deputy leader.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At the moment we have a team leader (me) and a very quiet team. Now is
+</I>&gt;<i> the time to raise your head, and at least vote, or even stand for one
+</I>&gt;<i> of the positions - we need you!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm happy to stand if nobody comes forward, but I'd really like to see
+</I>&gt;<i> some people step up for at least one of the positions.
+</I>
+I would like to throw my hat into the ring for the Deputy Team Lead
+position.
+
+Qualifications:
+
+Has served on the Mageia Marcom team since the beginning, and promoted
+our business product offerings in an ambassadorial manner in published
+articles, community forums, and technical How-Tos.
+
+Created Linboard Linux, one of the first ever Linux distributions, as
+well as the retail distribution channel which made it available on the
+shelves of several major software stores and computer retailers.
+
+Was an advocate for Mandrake Linux (prior to the IPO), urging the
+adoption of what was a most excellent desktop operating system to our
+corporate clients and everyday n00bs alike.
+
+Is the CTO of NorthTech Computer - A provider of Enterprise Cloud and
+Telephony services, and as far as I know, the only commercial provider
+of Mageia based virtualization products in the United States.
+
+Is an enthusiastic advocate for the adoption of Mageia for use as an
+everyday operating environment for new and seasoned users alike.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
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+On 02/24/2012 08:54 AM, Bradley D. Thornton wrote:
+&gt;<i> I haven't seen that our forum on LQ has been created yet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any update on this yet?
+</I>
+
+Hi Trish,
+
+I posed the question above over a week ago, and haven't heard anything
+back on this yet.
+
+If you could please raise this issue at the next council meeting you
+attend so we have an idea as to when we'll be getting our own forum at
+LQ that would be great!
+
+I'm anxious to get this going, and there is interest as well as real
+marketing potential just by virtue of having our own forum there.
+
+I've also re-worked one of my Mageia reviews just so I can publish it at
+LQ and DistroWatch coinciding with the debut of this forum.
+
+I'll wait until hearing back from you, and you may also mention at the
+next meeting that I can liaise w/Jeremy directly if need be, to help
+getting things rolling along.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
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+On 03/05/2012 02:59 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+</I>&gt;<i> leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two people
+</I>&gt;<i> can have the same position as well:
+</I>
+I am interested on getting clarification on this item, as it relates to
+*council representatives*.
+
+If someone can get back and post once the matter of whether there can be
+two, or only one council rep, it would be most appreciated.
+
+I'll be better able to determine at that point whether I would be
+interested in officially offering to volunteer as a council rep
+*instead* of deputy team lead for Marcom.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+On 03/05/2012 08:14 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Bradley,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also, if you have a moment, pls see...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://bit.ly/wAOrkk">http://bit.ly/wAOrkk</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a great resource! Thanks for posting it.
+</I>
+Yes it really seems to help a lot. Many lists with high turn-over rates
+tend to benefit from it when top-posting occasionally begins to get out
+of control.
+
+The hard part is finding a coy way to deliver the suggestion w/o
+offending the top-poster.
+
+I find that simply explaining that I didn't understand due to the lack
+of context, coupled with offering a link that may explain how to fix
+that, offends much less often than the saber rattling and flaming that
+many well intentioned list admins engage in.
+
+Bottom line, if someone insists on top-posting after they understand why
+not to, then most folks I know just tend to filter their emails to
+/dev/null anyway.
+
+As you indicate below, the important thing to always remember is that
+even though someone is top-posting, their intent is indeed to be
+contributory and participatory, and not to prompt folks to filter them
+or delete their posts as a result of bad form.
+
+I've been a bit lax
+&gt;<i> myself in the top-posting and trimming - associating with too many
+</I>&gt;<i> people at work who just don't know the right way (and get mad if you
+</I>&gt;<i> tell them).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As an aside, are you standing or voting in the team election, or both?
+</I>
+Well when I step into the polling booth (What mechanism are we going to
+use for voting anyway?). I'm certainly not considering anyone for the
+Team Lead position except you :)
+
+hm... That certainly does break with my tradition of never telling *who
+I intend to vote for*. Doesn't it?
+
+But due to ambiguities contained in the logs, I'm not clear as to
+whether we can have two council reps from Marcom or not. So until I'm
+clear on that point, I've offered to throw my hat in only for the deputy
+post at this time.
+
+Regardless, and to be considerate of others who would like to also
+participate in a more official manner, I would only offer to serve in
+one or the other position.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
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+Manager Network Services
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+<PRE>Le 06/03/2012 04:44, Bradley D. Thornton a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 02/24/2012 08:54 AM, Bradley D. Thornton wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I haven't seen that our forum on LQ has been created yet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any update on this yet?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Trish,
+</I>
+Hi guys
+
+I'm still waiting for names for this forums
+
+Cheers
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I posed the question above over a week ago, and haven't heard anything
+</I>&gt;<i> back on this yet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you could please raise this issue at the next council meeting you
+</I>&gt;<i> attend so we have an idea as to when we'll be getting our own forum at
+</I>&gt;<i> LQ that would be great!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm anxious to get this going, and there is interest as well as real
+</I>&gt;<i> marketing potential just by virtue of having our own forum there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've also re-worked one of my Mageia reviews just so I can publish it at
+</I>&gt;<i> LQ and DistroWatch coinciding with the debut of this forum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll wait until hearing back from you, and you may also mention at the
+</I>&gt;<i> next meeting that I can liaise w/Jeremy directly if need be, to help
+</I>&gt;<i> getting things rolling along.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kindest regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>_______________________________________________
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+Hi all,
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; people can have the same position as well:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am interested on getting clarification on this item, as it relates
+</I>&gt;<i> to *council representatives*.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If someone can get back and post once the matter of whether there can
+</I>&gt;<i> be two, or only one council rep, it would be most appreciated.
+</I>
+Query sent to council list.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE>Hi Seb,
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested
+</I>
+I'm afraid we ran out of time for this at the meeting, but don't
+despair!
+
+I do now know who the people are to approach; please could you leave it
+with me, and I'll follow up. Everyone's pretty busy with the
+pre-release things, so I don't want to be annoying - we'll get there,
+but we might need to be a bit patient.
+
+I think it might be best to leave it off the discuss list for now, for
+that reason - what do you think?
+
+Cheers!
+
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+
+Wobo helped out with this link:
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org</A>
+
+So, we have one rep on the council, and we decide who that will be -
+normally it's the team lead, but it can be anyone. That's one vote on
+council for each team. Anyone can attend a council meeting - we just
+get one vote, and our nominated representative does the voting.
+
+The idea of lead/deputy is that we have coverage even if the lead
+person has to dip out temporarily - so I think it's good if we can have
+2 people, because in the last 3 months I've been noticeably absent due
+to moving country. Hopefully that's going to improve from now on, but
+it's still good to have 2 people covering things.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>On 06/03/12 10:02, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wobo helped out with this link:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, we have one rep on the council, and we decide who that will be -
+</I>&gt;<i> normally it's the team lead, but it can be anyone. That's one vote on
+</I>&gt;<i> council for each team. Anyone can attend a council meeting - we just
+</I>&gt;<i> get one vote, and our nominated representative does the voting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The idea of lead/deputy is that we have coverage even if the lead
+</I>&gt;<i> person has to dip out temporarily - so I think it's good if we can have
+</I>&gt;<i> 2 people, because in the last 3 months I've been noticeably absent due
+</I>&gt;<i> to moving country. Hopefully that's going to improve from now on, but
+</I>&gt;<i> it's still good to have 2 people covering things.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>Oh ok one person for each position unless wobo is wrong.
+
+I agree it's good to have a leader and a deputy leader to help each
+other, but having two council representatives could be quite good to
+have at times as well really.
+
+In fact I was thinking about it earlier how at least in my experience
+group things tend to have or may have two people for non leading positions.
+
+Also at times a council representative can't easily attend a council
+meeting, because of for example the time they are at in their time zone,
+or can't attend it at all, because of being busy with something else. In
+these kind of situations having two council representatives for a team
+could be very useful. Even if the other representative is just a
+substitute for when the main representative is not at the meeting. Or
+even if the main representative does most of the representing in a
+council meeting with the other as well.
+
+As for the council mailing list I assume both representatives should be
+sending emails to it if their are two.
+
+Anyway it seems we will be voting for only one council representative
+and so in that case my vote is for Trish or myself.
+
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+<PRE>On 06/03/12 08:38, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Seb,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm afraid we ran out of time for this at the meeting, but don't
+</I>&gt;<i> despair!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I do now know who the people are to approach; please could you leave it
+</I>&gt;<i> with me, and I'll follow up. Everyone's pretty busy with the
+</I>&gt;<i> pre-release things, so I don't want to be annoying - we'll get there,
+</I>&gt;<i> but we might need to be a bit patient.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it might be best to leave it off the discuss list for now, for
+</I>&gt;<i> that reason - what do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>Misc gave me a good reply on that mailing list explaining things,
+however this is still something that I think should get properly sorted
+out in the future sometime this year ideally before Mageia 2!
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Seb,
+
+&gt;<i> Oh ok one person for each position unless wobo is wrong.
+</I>
+You checked the link, yes? I think he's right. And given that marcom is
+still a very small team, I think we can get away with just 2 - team
+lead and deputy.
+
+&gt;<i> I agree it's good to have a leader and a deputy leader to help each
+</I>&gt;<i> other, but having two council representatives could be quite good to
+</I>&gt;<i> have at times as well really.
+</I>
+Maybe when we're bigger, but once all teams have reps on council, it
+will still be quite a large council. The idea is, as I see it, that if
+the team lead isn't available, the deputy attends in their place - for
+instance, if TeaAge isn't going to be available as artwork team lead,
+he pings Max and Max attends as artwork rep (which is what's happening
+now because TeaAge is busy).
+
+&gt;<i> In fact I was thinking about it earlier how at least in my experience
+</I>&gt;<i> group things tend to have or may have two people for non leading
+</I>&gt;<i> positions.
+</I>
+Maybe if marcom gets to be a big team 8-)...
+
+&gt;<i> As for the council mailing list I assume both representatives should
+</I>&gt;<i> be sending emails to it if their are two.
+</I>
+Just one - team lead if they're available, deputy if they aren't. That
+keeps it manageable.
+
+&gt;<i> Anyway it seems we will be voting for only one council representative
+</I>&gt;<i> and so in that case my vote is for Trish or myself.
+</I>
+You can't vote for yourself! If you're the only candidate, you would be
+elected unopposed, but otherwise, you have to vote for someone else or
+you have to abstain.
+
+There's plenty of work to do, so we're all needed - whether we get an
+official role or not, everyone who contributes is important.
+
+And sometimes our ideas get up and sometimes they don't (or not yet) -
+this is a community, so there's always got to be a bit of give and
+take.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+<PRE>Sending this again, because there was a problem trying to send before:
+
+-------- Original Message --------
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:23:53 +0000
+From: Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+
+
+
+On 06/03/12 08:38, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Seb,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm afraid we ran out of time for this at the meeting, but don't
+</I>&gt;<i> despair!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I do now know who the people are to approach; please could you leave it
+</I>&gt;<i> with me, and I'll follow up. Everyone's pretty busy with the
+</I>&gt;<i> pre-release things, so I don't want to be annoying - we'll get there,
+</I>&gt;<i> but we might need to be a bit patient.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it might be best to leave it off the discuss list for now, for
+</I>&gt;<i> that reason - what do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>Misc gave me a good reply on that mailing list explaining things,
+however this is still something that I think should get properly sorted
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+<PRE>Hi Seb,
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+&gt;<i> Sending this again, because there was a problem trying to send before:
+</I>
+I did see this, answering below.
+
+&gt;<i> Misc gave me a good reply on that mailing list explaining things,
+</I>&gt;<i> however this is still something that I think should get properly
+</I>&gt;<i> sorted out in the future sometime this year ideally before Mageia 2!
+</I>
+Yes, it would be nice - we'll try for it, and see how we get on.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+<PRE>On 06/03/12 19:49, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Seb,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oh ok one person for each position unless wobo is wrong.
+</I>&gt;<i> You checked the link, yes? I think he's right. And given that marcom is
+</I>&gt;<i> still a very small team, I think we can get away with just 2 - team
+</I>&gt;<i> lead and deputy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I agree it's good to have a leader and a deputy leader to help each
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other, but having two council representatives could be quite good to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have at times as well really.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe when we're bigger, but once all teams have reps on council, it
+</I>&gt;<i> will still be quite a large council. The idea is, as I see it, that if
+</I>&gt;<i> the team lead isn't available, the deputy attends in their place - for
+</I>&gt;<i> instance, if TeaAge isn't going to be available as artwork team lead,
+</I>&gt;<i> he pings Max and Max attends as artwork rep (which is what's happening
+</I>&gt;<i> now because TeaAge is busy).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In fact I was thinking about it earlier how at least in my experience
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> group things tend to have or may have two people for non leading
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> positions.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe if marcom gets to be a big team 8-)...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As for the council mailing list I assume both representatives should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be sending emails to it if their are two.
+</I>&gt;<i> Just one - team lead if they're available, deputy if they aren't. That
+</I>&gt;<i> keeps it manageable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anyway it seems we will be voting for only one council representative
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and so in that case my vote is for Trish or myself.
+</I>&gt;<i> You can't vote for yourself! If you're the only candidate, you would be
+</I>&gt;<i> elected unopposed, but otherwise, you have to vote for someone else or
+</I>&gt;<i> you have to abstain.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's plenty of work to do, so we're all needed - whether we get an
+</I>&gt;<i> official role or not, everyone who contributes is important.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And sometimes our ideas get up and sometimes they don't (or not yet) -
+</I>&gt;<i> this is a community, so there's always got to be a bit of give and
+</I>&gt;<i> take.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+<PRE>Thanks Seb - but do trim your replies please!
+
+&gt;<i> On 06/03/12 19:49, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi Seb,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Oh ok one person for each position unless wobo is wrong.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You checked the link, yes? I think he's right. And given that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; marcom is still a very small team, I think we can get away with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; just 2 - team lead and deputy.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I agree it's good to have a leader and a deputy leader to help each
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; other, but having two council representatives could be quite good
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to have at times as well really.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Maybe when we're bigger, but once all teams have reps on council, it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; will still be quite a large council. The idea is, as I see it, that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if the team lead isn't available, the deputy attends in their place
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - for instance, if TeaAge isn't going to be available as artwork
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; team lead, he pings Max and Max attends as artwork rep (which is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; what's happening now because TeaAge is busy).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; In fact I was thinking about it earlier how at least in my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; experience group things tend to have or may have two people for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; non leading positions.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Maybe if marcom gets to be a big team 8-)...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As for the council mailing list I assume both representatives
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; should be sending emails to it if their are two.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Just one - team lead if they're available, deputy if they aren't.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That keeps it manageable.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Anyway it seems we will be voting for only one council
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; representative and so in that case my vote is for Trish or myself.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You can't vote for yourself! If you're the only candidate, you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; would be elected unopposed, but otherwise, you have to vote for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; someone else or you have to abstain.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There's plenty of work to do, so we're all needed - whether we get
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; an official role or not, everyone who contributes is important.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And sometimes our ideas get up and sometimes they don't (or not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; yet) - this is a community, so there's always got to be a bit of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; give and take.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> That was a very good reply I think.
+</I>
+
+
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Wed Mar 7 12:56:44 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+hermes up 2 day(s), 65 hour(s), 40 min.
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+Is there any news about the installation splash screens? I've being a
+little lost (work issues) and I could've missed something. I have one more
+meeting today and I can work a few hours them when I come back (if needed).
+
+--
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+<PRE>Hi guys,
+
+It's me, the guy from Costa Rica again. Didn't work today and I finally
+made five splash screens for Mageia 2 (texts included). Hope you like them.
+I'll love to see some of my work on Mageia 2. I'm mailing them to the
+artwork team too. Let me know what you think.
+
+Mageia 1 splash screen: <A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</A>
+Mageia 2 splash screen proposal: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</A>
+
+Splash screen #1: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</A>
+Splash screen #2: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</A>
+Splash screen #3: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</A>
+Splash screen #4: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</A>
+Splash screen #5: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</A>
+
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+On 03/08/2012 08:26 PM, Esteban Mora wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's me, the guy from Costa Rica again. Didn't work today and I finally
+</I>&gt;<i> made five splash screens for Mageia 2 (texts included). Hope you like them.
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll love to see some of my work on Mageia 2. I'm mailing them to the
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork team too. Let me know what you think.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1 splash screen: <A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2 splash screen proposal: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #1: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #2: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #3: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #4: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #5: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</A>
+</I>
+Well these all look really good. The focus on multimedia and ease of
+use, coupled with the welcome to the installer for choosing Mageia is a
+really nice touch.
+
+What tools did you use for developing the artwork?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+Manager Network Services
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+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
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+<PRE>Hi Esteban!
+
+&gt;<i> It's me, the guy from Costa Rica again. Didn't work today and I
+</I>&gt;<i> finally made five splash screens for Mageia 2 (texts included). Hope
+</I>&gt;<i> you like them. I'll love to see some of my work on Mageia 2. I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing them to the artwork team too. Let me know what you think.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1 splash screen: <A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2 splash screen proposal:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #1: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #2: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #3: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #4: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #5: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</A>
+</I>
+
+These are great. The texts are great. I'd be happy to go with them -
+what does everyone else think?
+
+(Just to clarify - these are for the installation, yes?)
+
+Cheers,
+
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+Fri Mar 9 17:32:48 EST 2012
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+<PRE>2012/3/9 Esteban Mora &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">esteban1972 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #1: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #2: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #3: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #4: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #5: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Wow thanks for your job Esteban, those are great!
+
+They look really profesionnal, and it is great that a slide promotes
+the fact that the project is community based and that contributors can
+join us.
+
+Cheers,
+R&#233;mi / Akien
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+<PRE>Il 09/03/2012 07:34, Patricia Fraser ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> Hi Esteban!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's me, the guy from Costa Rica again. Didn't work today and I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> finally made five splash screens for Mageia 2 (texts included). Hope
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you like them. I'll love to see some of my work on Mageia 2. I'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mailing them to the artwork team too. Let me know what you think.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 1 splash screen: <A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 2 splash screen proposal:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Splash screen #1: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Splash screen #2: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Splash screen #3: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Splash screen #4: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Splash screen #5: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> These are great. The texts are great. I'd be happy to go with them -
+</I>&gt;<i> what does everyone else think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Just to clarify - these are for the installation, yes?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+i think they are great, for me they can be included surely in mageia 2.
+only one proposal, what about removing graphics banner (powerful graphic
+tools are used by a exiguous number of users) and replace it with a
+banner dedicated to Mageia Control Center (one of the best centralised
+tool around in linux world)?
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>Hello from Costa Rica,
+
+As requested, I've added one more splash screen about the control center. I
+updated the screens to fit in 457x308. And also I removed the dots so you
+can arrange them in any order. You can download them here:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</A>
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+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06.png</A>
+
+My idea when making the screens was to take the user by the hand and show
+him or her the great options that Mageia has to offer: a community that he
+or she can join, the idea of freedom of choice and the availability of
+applications for everything needed (drawing, office suites, Internet, etc).
+Thru the screens I try to convince the user that Mageia is the best choice.
+The design I use is based on the Mageia 1 interface, and give them some
+modern look and feel. To create them I used a little bit of Gimp and mostly
+Inkscape.
+
+Just to clarify some things, I didn't know that you already have some
+splash screens, I was finishing one social network monitoring project and
+can't follow all the threads. If you want to use them I'll will be glad and
+honored.
+
+--
+Esteban Mora
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+Here you have a new set of splash screens for the installation process. I
+mixed my design with Gaula's. I also adapted some of my original texts
+following the suggestions that I read on the messages. Hope you like them.
+
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01-2.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02-2.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03-2.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04-2.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05-2.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06-2.png</A>
+
+
+--
+Esteban Mora
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+<PRE>OK, time is of the essence, but here is where we stand:
+We will be using Guala's images for the installer for Mga2. There are
+several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that
+those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams.
+Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the hard work that you put in, and
+certainly the initiative that you showed. But Mageia is a community
+distribution, and that means that it is a team effort. A community is not
+merely a collection of individuals, but a group of people who work
+together. Esteban, you are clearly a very talented person and we would be
+more than happy if you were to join the artwork team and continue to
+contribute. I for one look forward to working with you in the future, but
+it needs to be done as part of a team. We'll probably hold on to those
+images of yours and use them (or a slight variation) for Mga3.
+Trish told me that she would put together some text for Guala's images soon
+(within a day).
+About whether the installer software will support svg images and multiple
+languages... That is a very good idea, but I think it may have simply come
+too late. Maybe next time? That will certainly require a lot of
+coordination with the i18n team as well as packagers.
+Finally a question: who knows what needs to be done so that the final 10
+PNGs will get packaged and ready to go for Beta 2?
+
+These are the images we will be using:
+<A HREF="http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png</A>
+Keep in mind that the text there is temporary and at the end we will
+probably only use 5 of them (each one twice with different text).
+Have a good evening (or whatever).
+Max
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+Alfter being treated twice as a guy who can't work in a community I have no
+other choice but to leave the community. But let me explain something
+before I remove my subscriptions to the lists. I joined the Mageia
+Marketing list trying to give back something to the distribution. My
+schedule constraints, due to my daily job and geographic location, makes it
+almost impossible to join the chats. My only reference is what I receive
+from the mail messages of the list, when I can read them. One day I noticed
+that Mageia needed better splash screens and I saw an opportunity to help.
+I draw a couple of screens and suggest some texts. The guys from Marketing
+ask me to join then the Artwork list as well. I rushed to create a set of
+screens and mail them to both lists before the deadline. Then I read that
+my screens didn't fit something (nobody has yet explained me what they
+didn't fit) and I rushed again to create a new set of screens trying to fix
+what i guess was wrong with the first set.
+
+Maybe you're right and I'm not a community material. Maybe I joined without
+knowing how a community distribution work. Or maybe what I needed was a
+little introduction to how a community distribution works and what the
+rules are. But, after reading a couple of &quot;not so nice&quot; messages regarding
+my contribution to Mageia I feel that this is a community I don't want to
+belong.
+
+Good luck with Mageia.
+
+Esteban
+
+
+
+
+
+2012/3/11 Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> OK, time is of the essence, but here is where we stand:
+</I>&gt;<i> We will be using Guala's images for the installer for Mga2. There are
+</I>&gt;<i> several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that
+</I>&gt;<i> those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams.
+</I>&gt;<i> Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the hard work that you put in, and
+</I>&gt;<i> certainly the initiative that you showed. But Mageia is a community
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution, and that means that it is a team effort. A community is not
+</I>&gt;<i> merely a collection of individuals, but a group of people who work
+</I>&gt;<i> together. Esteban, you are clearly a very talented person and we would be
+</I>&gt;<i> more than happy if you were to join the artwork team and continue to
+</I>&gt;<i> contribute. I for one look forward to working with you in the future, but
+</I>&gt;<i> it needs to be done as part of a team. We'll probably hold on to those
+</I>&gt;<i> images of yours and use them (or a slight variation) for Mga3.
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish told me that she would put together some text for Guala's images
+</I>&gt;<i> soon (within a day).
+</I>&gt;<i> About whether the installer software will support svg images and multiple
+</I>&gt;<i> languages... That is a very good idea, but I think it may have simply come
+</I>&gt;<i> too late. Maybe next time? That will certainly require a lot of
+</I>&gt;<i> coordination with the i18n team as well as packagers.
+</I>&gt;<i> Finally a question: who knows what needs to be done so that the final 10
+</I>&gt;<i> PNGs will get packaged and ready to go for Beta 2?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> These are the images we will be using:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Keep in mind that the text there is temporary and at the end we will
+</I>&gt;<i> probably only use 5 of them (each one twice with different text).
+</I>&gt;<i> Have a good evening (or whatever).
+</I>&gt;<i> Max
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+--
+Esteban Mora
+S&#237;gueme en Twitter en <A HREF="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</A>
+----------------------
+La perfecci&#243;n no es cosa peque&#241;a, pero est&#225; hecha de peque&#241;as cosas...
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+On 03/11/2012 10:33 PM, Esteban Mora wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Alfter being treated twice as a guy who can't work in a community I have no
+</I>&gt;<i> other choice but to leave the community.
+</I>
+Let me be the first to offer condolences. It especially bothers me since
+this isn't the first time we've lost a valuable member in disgust.
+
+I'm quite aware of the quality of your work and the effort you put
+forward to the community.
+
+Although I don't know the particulars of what it was that came to pass
+and led to your feelings on this matter, your description of the events,
+if substantiated, is rather appalling.
+
+It is true, in a community, that there are personalities and ego in
+every aspect of its being, perhaps more so in the creative areas.
+
+I don't personally have a care one way or the other between two quality
+products from a functional perspective. I don't have to because my focus
+is primarily on the operational aspects of the distro - but a good
+picture sells that.
+
+It is for that reason that I am astonished we would choose such an
+inferior alternative to the product you produced. No amount of so-called
+community consciousness can reasonably account for that, but I will
+cover those issues separately on the list now that you have unsubscribed.
+
+Thank you for your contributions and please don't come away thinking
+anything less of how Mageia is as a quality distro.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
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+On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 23:16, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that
+</I>&gt;<i> those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams.
+</I>
+What are the other reasons? Because this one is rather weak:
+ - it's not that it's a team effort that makes something good or a fit.
+ - it's not because it's a collaborative project that it makes any
+fully individual and subjective participation void or misfit.
+
+&gt;<i> Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the hard work that you put in, and
+</I>&gt;<i> certainly the initiative that you showed. But Mageia is a community
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution, and that means that it is a team effort. A community is not
+</I>&gt;<i> merely a collection of individuals, but a group of people who work together.
+</I>
+Which doesn't prevent anyone to propose a full, finished set of
+artefacts for a given task (with some choices already made), that may
+be improved through collaboration.
+
+&gt;<i> About whether the installer software will support svg images and multiple
+</I>&gt;<i> languages... That is a very good idea, but I think it may have simply come
+</I>&gt;<i> too late. Maybe next time? That will certainly require a lot of coordination
+</I>&gt;<i> with the i18n team as well as packagers.
+</I>
+Define what you need/want + submit it to the installer devs/packagers on -dev.
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+<PRE>Hi folks,
+
+I've taken Esteban's texts (thanks Esteban!), edited and added a bit;
+if everyone's happy with these, just pick what we need and go for it:
+
+----
+Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: it's a community of users,
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+computer - hardware, software and all kinds of setup, all in one place.
+
+For great 2D or 3D graphics, Mageia's standard packages help you create
+raster or vector graphics or 3D animations - and then there's video
+editing...
+
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+presentations with the office suite LibreOffice.
+
+Browse the web, check your email, chat with your friends; Mageia
+includes all the applications you need.
+
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+applications and tools at your fingertips.
+-----
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Mon Mar 12 21:35:25 EST 2012
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+hermes up 3 hour(s), 1 min.
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+<PRE>Hi Esteban,
+
+I'm really sorry you're feeling excluded, especially after all your
+hard work. Your splash screens are great, and it would be grand if we
+could use them in future - and it would be even greater if you could
+bring yourself to stay part of the marketing and/or artwork teams,
+although I understand if you don't want to.
+
+I hope we'll keep hearing from you, and that you'll consider keeping on
+working with us.
+
+Thanks once again for your hard work!
+
+Cheers,
+
+Patricia.
+
+
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Alfter being treated twice as a guy who can't work in a community I
+</I>&gt;<i> have no other choice but to leave the community. But let me explain
+</I>&gt;<i> something before I remove my subscriptions to the lists. I joined the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia Marketing list trying to give back something to the
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution. My schedule constraints, due to my daily job and
+</I>&gt;<i> geographic location, makes it almost impossible to join the chats. My
+</I>&gt;<i> only reference is what I receive from the mail messages of the list,
+</I>&gt;<i> when I can read them. One day I noticed that Mageia needed better
+</I>&gt;<i> splash screens and I saw an opportunity to help. I draw a couple of
+</I>&gt;<i> screens and suggest some texts. The guys from Marketing ask me to
+</I>&gt;<i> join then the Artwork list as well. I rushed to create a set of
+</I>&gt;<i> screens and mail them to both lists before the deadline. Then I read
+</I>&gt;<i> that my screens didn't fit something (nobody has yet explained me
+</I>&gt;<i> what they didn't fit) and I rushed again to create a new set of
+</I>&gt;<i> screens trying to fix what i guess was wrong with the first set.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe you're right and I'm not a community material. Maybe I joined
+</I>&gt;<i> without knowing how a community distribution work. Or maybe what I
+</I>&gt;<i> needed was a little introduction to how a community distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> works and what the rules are. But, after reading a couple of &quot;not so
+</I>&gt;<i> nice&quot; messages regarding my contribution to Mageia I feel that this
+</I>&gt;<i> is a community I don't want to belong.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good luck with Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Esteban
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/3/11 Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; OK, time is of the essence, but here is where we stand:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We will be using Guala's images for the installer for Mga2. There
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; are several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the fact that those images were a group effort by the entire
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; artwork and marcom teams. Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hard work that you put in, and certainly the initiative that you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; showed. But Mageia is a community distribution, and that means that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it is a team effort. A community is not merely a collection of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; individuals, but a group of people who work together. Esteban, you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; are clearly a very talented person and we would be more than happy
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if you were to join the artwork team and continue to contribute. I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for one look forward to working with you in the future, but it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; needs to be done as part of a team. We'll probably hold on to those
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; images of yours and use them (or a slight variation) for Mga3.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Trish told me that she would put together some text for Guala's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; images soon (within a day). About whether the installer software
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; will support svg images and multiple languages... That is a very
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; good idea, but I think it may have simply come too late. Maybe next
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; time? That will certainly require a lot of coordination with the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i18n team as well as packagers. Finally a question: who knows what
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; needs to be done so that the final 10 PNGs will get packaged and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ready to go for Beta 2?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; These are the images we will be using:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Keep in mind that the text there is temporary and at the end we will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; probably only use 5 of them (each one twice with different text).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Have a good evening (or whatever).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Max
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Mon Mar 12 21:38:08 EST 2012
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+<PRE>Hi all,
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+We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+and deputy team lead.
+
+Candidates are:
+
+Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+
+Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+
+Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+
+Please feel free to ask any candidate anything relating to the election
+or the positions they're standing for.
+
+I'd like to throw voting open as at 11:00 UTC 12 May 2012 - in about
+10 minutes from now - and close voting in 24 hours' time, at 11:00 UTC
+13 May 2012.
+
+Please register your vote on the mailing list!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+Mon Mar 12 21:41:51 EST 2012
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+On 03/11/2012 03:16 PM, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+&gt;<i> OK, time is of the essence, but here is where we stand:
+</I>&gt;<i> We will be using Guala's images for the installer for Mga2. There are
+</I>&gt;<i> several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that
+</I>&gt;<i> those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams.
+</I>
+There's nothing wrong with the artwork itself - it's also really nice,
+but the copy is non-existent and it's to be completed in a day
+
+Forget the part about counting all the thumbs up I counted over here for
+the other images, and also that I didn't see anything over here contrary
+to Esteban's images. The copy on the images you decided upon is crap,
+and honestly, the bulleted layout makes it look like a cheap powerpoint
+presentation.
+
+I know you're saying that we'll put text together in the next day, but
+we might as well just use the majority of the text from Esteban's
+artwork on the other images, IMO. it flows.
+
+As experience shows, the user likes to have a measure of progress too,
+during the process of installation. I recommend that be added to the
+artwork you chose Max.
+
+Not only that, but if I remember correctly from school, the development
+of a marketing image is supposed to be in tandem with, and complimentary
+to, the verbiage of the message.
+
+What we seem to be doing here is developing artwork and then trying to
+fashion a message to it.
+
+So now we're faced with deciding upon whether &quot;simmon say&quot; should be
+&quot;Simon says&quot; or &quot;Gene Simmons&quot;, lol.
+
+Seriously though, I'll just offer up below the existing text. Whatever
+parts of it are used, if any, Should be flowed onto the images and
+blended accordingly - not plopped on top like the text in a powerpoint file.
+
+I'll be available on and off over the next day so I don't have a problem
+whittling down the copy, but I would be embarrassed to see something so
+staccato in the actual end product.
+
+Let's look at the copy Esteban provided, just as a starting point, since
+we have absolutely zero to consider from the selected candidate.
+
+&lt;snip&gt;
+Mageia is a new Linux distribution made by a community of users,
+developers and advocates from all around the world.
+
+You're welcome to be part of Mageia.
+Start by Joining our community!
+
+Free software means freedom to choose.
+Gear up your dektop with the elegant KDE, the revolutionary Gnome, or
+the lightweight LXDE. {include the logos for those projects too in the
+image}
+
+With Mageia Control Center you can easily configure your hardware, add
+new software or setup your computer in just a few minutes. {note the
+'toolset' imagery in the candidate not selected}
+
+If drawing is part of your everyday job, you can create raster or vector
+graphics, or even 3D animations with the software included in Mageia.
+
+Write your documents, analyse your data and create great business
+presentations with the office suie LibreOffice. {note the inclusion of
+LibreOffice iconics in the graphic from the candidate not selected}
+
+Browse the web, check your email, or chat with your friends; Mageia
+includes all the applications that you need to explore what the Internet
+ahs to offer. {note the inclusion of FF and Chromium iconics in the
+graphic from the candidate not selected}
+&lt;/snip&gt;
+
+
+For example, I might suggest as a replacement for a couple of the pages
+above:
+
+Write your documents, analyse your data and create great business
+presentations with the office suie LibreOffice.
+
+
+to...
+
+
+Produce stunning documents, analyze corporate data, and deliver
+professional business presentations with the KOffice and LibreOffice
+suites included with every installation.
+
+
+And perhaps...
+
+
+Mageia is a new kind of Linux distribution made by a worldwide community
+of users, developers and advocates from every walk of life.
+
+
+to...
+
+
+We would love to have you be part of Mageia too.
+Won't you Join our community? {or maybe, &quot;Come Join our Community!&quot;}
+
+
+Well that's all I have at the moment, especially since I don't know
+which way we're going to go with all of this, but irrespective of how
+you intended to sound Max, the message that Esteban received was more
+than harsh, and it unfortunately did drive him from the project.
+
+I hope that helps :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+On 03/12/2012 03:19 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 23:16, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What are the other reasons? Because this one is rather weak:
+</I>&gt;<i> - it's not that it's a team effort that makes something good or a fit.
+</I>&gt;<i> - it's not because it's a collaborative project that it makes any
+</I>&gt;<i> fully individual and subjective participation void or misfit.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the hard work that you put in, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> certainly the initiative that you showed. But Mageia is a community
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distribution, and that means that it is a team effort. A community is not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> merely a collection of individuals, but a group of people who work together.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which doesn't prevent anyone to propose a full, finished set of
+</I>&gt;<i> artefacts for a given task (with some choices already made), that may
+</I>&gt;<i> be improved through collaboration.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
++1 Romain :)
+
+Here in California, we call what Max did to Esteban as, &quot;Being a Dik&quot;.
+
+I hope that helps!
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
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+On 03/12/2012 03:49 AM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>
+Hi Trish,
+
+I didn't want to put my foot forward for the team lead post, merely the
+deputy team lead. So I'm not sure exactly how to proceed, except to say
+my vote for the Team Lead goes to you, and according to the rules you
+established for the polling, candidates are precluded from voting for
+themselves.
+
+So for my part, that's:
+
++1 Trish for Team Lead.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
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+On 03/12/2012 03:37 AM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've taken Esteban's texts (thanks Esteban!), edited and added a bit;
+</I>&gt;<i> if everyone's happy with these, just pick what we need and go for it:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: it's a community of users,
+</I>&gt;<i> developers and advocates from all around the world. Join us!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Free software means freedom to choose. Gear up your desktop with the
+</I>&gt;<i> elegant KDE, the revolutionary Gnome or the lightweight LXDE.
+</I>
+I just have a problem with the word *elegant* there before KDE. To me it
+has a 'contrived' feeling, like putting a square peg in a round hole.
+Perhaps some other adjective?
+
+I also offered up a variant of this copy in my earlier post too. Give a
+gander there and see if there's anything you might want to merge in or
+juxtapose within.
+
+I think we were both taken aback a little at the &quot;If drawing is part of
+your everyday job...&quot; copy ;)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia's Control Center gives you easy, accessible control over your
+</I>&gt;<i> computer - hardware, software and all kinds of setup, all in one place.
+</I>
+*all kinds of setup* - Either this doesn't seem grammatically correct or
+it's just too colloquial.
+
+'and all manner of preferred configuration[s], all in one [easy to
+operate] place' ???
+
+
+*Control* is used twice in the same sentance, maybe &quot;...configuration of
+your computer...&quot; ???
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For great 2D or 3D graphics, Mageia's standard packages help you create
+</I>&gt;<i> raster or vector graphics or 3D animations - and then there's video
+</I>&gt;<i> editing...
+</I>
+Daddy like ;) If anything, maybe consider s/great/outstanding ???
+
+I like BIG adjectives LOL!
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Write great documents, analyse your data and create great business
+</I>&gt;<i> presentations with the office suite LibreOffice.
+</I>
+*Great* is used twice in the same sentence. Check out the similar blurb
+I offered up in the previous post for possible variations of this verbiage.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Browse the web, check your email, chat with your friends; Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> includes all the applications you need.
+</I>
+hm... maybe something like, &quot;...includes all of your favorite social
+applications, right at your fingertips!&quot;, or &quot;...includes all the social
+applications...&quot; or &quot;...includes all the communications applications...&quot;
+
+And I dunno, but *need*.... hm... desire, want, are used to, demand, or
+maybe...
+
+&quot;...includes all of the [social|communications] applications you're
+already familiar with&quot;.
+
+*need* doesn't quite have the oomph I want to feel there.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Code, compile, debug and package - Mageia puts all the development
+</I>&gt;<i> applications and tools at your fingertips.
+</I>
+Fantastic :) or mabye something like &quot;...puts an entire universe of
+development...&quot;, or, &quot;...a complete universe of...&quot;, etc.
+
+Anyway, I hope that helps!
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
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+<PRE>Alright, you want to know more reasons? I'll give you more reasons.
+See, both teams heard about this bug several weeks ago, and that should
+have been sufficient time to come up with a good solution and put it
+together in time for the artwork freeze. But that's provided that everybody
+actually does some work.
+At the time I was going through finals and couldn't really help out (and
+then last week I was sick for several days and totally out of commission),
+but I saw this as something very important and sacrificed a lot of my time
+to try and pull this together. In fact, I sacrificed too much of my time
+and my grades suffered. But that was my choice to make and I alone have to
+face the consequences.
+Now, in the past when there were things that needed doing and deadlines
+looming the same thing happened, one person did most or all of the work and
+saved the collective asses of his or her teammates.
+I was sincerely hoping that we could prevent that from happening again, and
+maybe, maybe really work together this time and share the workload. And it
+appeared to be working.
+And then Esteban showed up with a magical external solution which was very
+good, but very bad for the teams.
+
+I did not want the responsibility of artwork team leader, but I had it
+thrust upon me due to various circumstances that were beyond my control.
+And rather than pass the buck I picked up the gauntlet and faced the
+challenge to the best of my abilities and time.
+I tried to do what I thought would be best for Mageia in general, and the
+artwork team in particular in the long run. If that makes me a dick, fine.
+I didn't set out to be a dick and had only the best intentions. I still
+think that what I did is better for Mageia, and given the opportunity I
+would do it again, but it wouldn't be any easier.
+I'm very sorry that Esteban feels this way, that was entirely not my
+intention. In fact, I was up for over an hour last night (actually very
+early this morning) agonizing over that email, trying my best *not *to
+sound like a dick. I guess I failed there.
+
+Now, I am not going to resign in a huff and storm off, because that would
+be even worse. I don't know what I will do, but I'm open to suggestions.
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+<PRE>I vote for Trish for team leader.
+
+
+________________________________
+ From: Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:49 PM
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+
+Hi all,
+
+We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+and deputy team lead.
+
+Candidates are:
+
+Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+
+Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+
+Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+
+Please feel free to ask any candidate anything relating to the election
+or the positions they're standing for.
+
+I'd like to throw voting open as at 11:00 UTC 12 May 2012 - in about
+10 minutes from now - and close voting in 24 hours' time, at 11:00 UTC
+13 May 2012.
+
+Please register your vote on the mailing list!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE>On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 14:34, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Alright, you want to know more reasons? I'll give you more reasons.
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> I was sincerely hoping that we could prevent that from happening again, and
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe, maybe really work together this time and share the workload. And it
+</I>&gt;<i> appeared to be working.
+</I>
+Granted.
+
+&gt;<i> And then Esteban showed up with a magical external solution which was very
+</I>&gt;<i> good,
+</I>
+That's one thing.
+
+&gt;<i> but very bad for the teams.
+</I>
+That's another one. Be careful on this very bit.
+
+It's not because you trash (would it be at this extent) a team's work,
+in favor of an other one, that it is _bad_ for the team. True, it
+hurts, for several reasons:
+ - work accomplished may look worse than the chosen solution,
+ - even worse, work accomplished may look better than the chosen solution,
+ - time and sweat spent _seem_ discarded and useless.
+
+But that may not necessarily be bad. If you recognize that there is a
+gain in swapping solutions. It's better to acknowledge that, take it
+and learn from it. And keep the good bits from the other proposals
+that didn't make it this time. Yes, it means trashing some hard work,
+some even good work, no question about it, but that's the cost to
+trying, prototyping and choosing the best idea/concept/artefact for
+what it is, rather than for who did it. That makes the team learning,
+improving and being more demanding. That is not bad. But yes it hurts.
+
+&gt;<i> I guess I failed there.
+</I>
+You didn't explain your decision enough; and the way you put things
+seems to have been interpreted as dismissive (related to the &quot;acting
+as&quot; bit). Here you explicited the rationale and explained that you did
+not meant to be harsh, and that's better. And there's the timing point
+too. Not everyone is expected to agree (as the team lead, you're here
+to cut decisions too), but at least, things are more clear and precise
+now. Thanks.
+
+So what to do next? If you think there's extra time to take (yes,
+artwork freeze was past Friday), maybe try to balance both solutions
+again. If not, go ahead with your decision, that's fine too.
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+On 03/12/2012 06:34 AM, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
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+&gt;<i> And then Esteban showed up with a magical external solution which was very
+</I>&gt;<i> good, but very bad for the teams.
+</I>
+And he paid for that with what must have seemed to him like, &quot;The brush
+off&quot;.
+
+I think the thing that seemed to be the most harmful was what still
+seems to be the decision of one person (you) in selecting the product
+pack of images.
+
+For a minute there I was certain that I had missed some mails expressing
+the preference of a different set of images over that of Esteban's, but
+I didn't. And the Marcom Team didn't actually choose the other graphics
+over that of Esteban's, as you seemingly inferred in your last post
+(Maybe that did happen on the artwork team list, but if it didn't happen
+on this list then it wasn't the MarCom Team).
+
+
+&gt;<i> I tried to do what I thought would be best for Mageia in general, and the
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork team in particular in the long run. If that makes me a dick, fine.
+</I>&gt;<i> I didn't set out to be a dick and had only the best intentions. I still
+</I>&gt;<i> think that what I did is better for Mageia, and given the opportunity I
+</I>&gt;<i> would do it again, but it wouldn't be any easier.
+</I>
+It was a mistake in judgment perhaps, but certainly not a murder or
+armed robbery LOL! Should you feel bad? Well, maybe you will consider
+sending Esteban a private email explaining this - that the promising
+graphics he seemed to just *whip up* might crush the morale of a team
+that has been performing well below what you expected, and therefore,
+you decided to throw him under the bus for their sake (Maybe you should
+tell them how you feel too).
+
+What you're saying isn't actually evil Max. It was a painful business
+decision to let the artwork team demonstrate and validate their worth,
+and just as they were coming through, as you indicated, someone popped
+up out of the blue (almost), and made small work of it.
+
+And yes, that could look bad. But if I'm not mistaken, Esteban's artwork
+did come in at or maybe one day after the deadline for the freeze.
+
+The worst decision you could have made as team lead it IMO, would be to
+not make a decision at all.
+
+That having been said, it seems you still have a lot of *post freeze*
+work to do on the artwork.
+
+But again, the thing that disturbs me isn't so much that this occurred,
+but that the decision wasn't actually a team product at all, but the
+decision of a single individual - an individual who cited those reasons
+for not considering the newcomer's works.
+
+&gt;<i> I'm very sorry that Esteban feels this way, that was entirely not my
+</I>&gt;<i> intention. In fact, I was up for over an hour last night (actually very
+</I>&gt;<i> early this morning) agonizing over that email, trying my best *not *to
+</I>&gt;<i> sound like a dick. I guess I failed there.
+</I>
+I'm sure your intentions were honorable. And they seem honorable - you
+acted on behalf of a team of people who needed some sort of validation
+for the welfare of that team.
+
+Now please consider seeing if you can't patch things up with Esteban -
+I've got a gut feeling that he'll become a great asset and motivating
+force on your team :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, I am not going to resign in a huff and storm off, because that would
+</I>
+Of course not. Besides, I don't think you would want to lose your
+medical and dental insurance ;)
+
+&gt;<i> be even worse. I don't know what I will do, but I'm open to suggestions.
+</I>
+Well, right now you're going to have to get some copy folded into the
+artwork you[r team] chose to go forward with :)
+
+I figure Trish will have some final copy for your team in a few hours
+following a suggestion period by anyone else here.
+
+My gravest concern remains - that the textual verbiage and the visual
+concepts aren't being developed congruently in a complimentary manner
+(we're pasting up).
+
+In the meantime don't sweat it - we're all Diks at times when we're
+frustrated, exhausted, and overworked. Coming to terms with that is all
+we can do and then we move on - we've got a product launch to ready :)
+
+Oh, and please stop cross-posting! It bugs me and borks my mail filters.
+Sending separate duplicate messages to each list keeps the mail client
+(and Bradley) happy :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
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+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think all or most of the members would like Trish to stay as the team
+leader :). For team leader I vote for Trish :).
+
+As for the deputy position I think we actually have three people who
+would like to be it: Josh, Bradley, and myself. For the deputy leader
+since I can't vote for myself, I am voting for Josh :).
+
+Trish did you forget about Josh in your email, or did he tell you that
+he didn't want to be deputy leader any more?
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+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+means your on one or both of the mailing lists still :). Work with the
+artwork team and marketing team and your designs can probably be used no
+problem for Mageia 3 :).
+
+Tumberlina, Gaula, and myself had a IRC chat about a cross design idea,
+and I thought it would have been a great idea, since that way could have
+used artwork from both yourself and Gaula as the slide show images :)
+for Mageia 2. However this idea was also discussed the day before when
+the artwork freeze was meant to be, and so there wouldn't really have
+been that much time to put the idea into action I guess.
+
+Max don't worry about it to much, things happen, people aren't perfect.
+
+I understand that you didn't really want to end up becoming the artwork
+team leader, because of being a student. I also understand that with the
+time you had to give to the artwork team, that you have been trying to
+do your best as leader/deputy leader :).
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+Other teams have been voting on who to have as a team leader and deputy
+leader. I understand that you basically became the artwork team leader
+for now instead of TeaAge for some reason. I think there should be some
+sort of policy or something for Mageia. if someone is to long away from
+their position, someone else should be able to replace them. As a result
+maybe it's time to have a artwork team election as well, who to have as
+the leader, deputy leader, and possibly also a 3rd position that is
+someone else a council representative.
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+Bradley the way you replied to Max was not that nice/professional.
+
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>
+Hi was I dropped from this for some reason? I wasn't available the past
+few days so if I missed something I apologize
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+&gt;<i> On 03/12/2012 05:49 AM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi was I dropped from this for some reason? I wasn't available the past few
+</I>&gt;<i> days so if I missed something I apologize
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
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+My votes:
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+Teamleader: Trish
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+Deputy: Seb^3
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+<PRE>Hi Trish
+
+Here are changes:
+
+Mageia is more than just a Linux distribution, it's a community of users
+from many different countries. You do not need to be a programmer, to
+use or contribute to Mageia!
+
+With Mageia you get lots of software choices: Gear up your desktop with the
+elegant KDE, the revolutionary Gnome or the lightweight LXDE.
+
+Mageia's graphical control centre gives users, accessible control over their
+computer - from setting up user accounts, to helping with configuring
+hardware.
+
+Or maybe something like this:
+
+Mageia's graphical control centre makes it easy to open up graphical
+tools for setting up user accounts, installing software, and configuring
+hardware.
+
+Mageia has easily available software packages for creating 2D and 3D
+graphics and animation.
+
+Type documents, create databases, or create business
+presentations with the default office suite LibreOffice.
+Or try alternative softwares such as KOffice, Abiword, and Gnumeric.
+
+Mageia can easily be used to browse the web, check email, and chat with
+friends, family, or co-workers.
+
+Code, compile, debug and package - Mageia has development tools easily
+available for install.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<PRE>On 12/03/12 19:38, Donald Stewart wrote:
+&gt;<i> For the kde/gnome/lxde issue, how would:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> .......the elegent, revolutionary and lightweight kde, gnome and lxde be?
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>Nearly did a separate email with this, but now doing it as a reply to
+yours :):
+
+XFCE should be mentioned as well.
+
+Also something else if the slide show image has a logo for the desktop
+environments and XFCE is mentioned need a logo for that as well.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Josh King</B>
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+<PRE>On 03/12/2012 01:06 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+My votes would be for Trish and Sebastian
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Trish did you forget about Josh in your email, or did he tell you
+</I>&gt;<i> that he didn't want to be deputy leader any more?
+</I>
+Aaargh! I did forget, damn. Please add Josh to the list of candidates.
+My apologies, Josh!
+
+Cheers!
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+<PRE>Seb, thanks for the work! but: too big! remember the size of the splash
+screens. Can you edit down very very hard, and come back with updates?
+
+Each text needs to be around 15 words, as a rule of thumb (otherwise
+there's no room for the picture), I think. Check the install screens
+from both Esteban's and Guala's images and do a count.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+&gt;<i> Hi Trish
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here are changes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia is more than just a Linux distribution, it's a community of
+</I>&gt;<i> users from many different countries. You do not need to be a
+</I>&gt;<i> programmer, to use or contribute to Mageia!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With Mageia you get lots of software choices: Gear up your desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> with the elegant KDE, the revolutionary Gnome or the lightweight LXDE.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia's graphical control centre gives users, accessible control
+</I>&gt;<i> over their computer - from setting up user accounts, to helping with
+</I>&gt;<i> configuring hardware.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or maybe something like this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia's graphical control centre makes it easy to open up graphical
+</I>&gt;<i> tools for setting up user accounts, installing software, and
+</I>&gt;<i> configuring hardware.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia has easily available software packages for creating 2D and 3D
+</I>&gt;<i> graphics and animation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Type documents, create databases, or create business
+</I>&gt;<i> presentations with the default office suite LibreOffice.
+</I>&gt;<i> Or try alternative softwares such as KOffice, Abiword, and Gnumeric.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia can easily be used to browse the web, check email, and chat
+</I>&gt;<i> with friends, family, or co-workers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Code, compile, debug and package - Mageia has development tools
+</I>&gt;<i> easily available for install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Tue Mar 13 07:40:54 EST 2012
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+<PRE>Hi folks,
+
+I understand that we might all be feeling a bit uneasy; it's amazing
+how unsettling it can be when your team up and explodes around you.
+It's nice, though, to see that we're capable of such a *civilised*
+explosion; I've been on lists where it was definitely a case of, duck
+and run for cover. Can I just say: I'm really glad to be working with
+all of you?
+
+Council has asked us to please *have the final splash screens* (text and
+all) ready by the time of our meeting Wednesday, no ifs buts or
+maybes... so we better get cracking, or ennael might come after us!
+
+Anyway: we need to get these texts nailed down. So, here are the
+parameters:
+
+5 install screens that rotate through the install time. Artwork can
+choose which 5; we just provide the text;
+
+Each screen should have one (1) subject; and
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+The text should take no more than 20 words for each screen.
+
+Please can we pick 5 subjects, get together all the texts on that
+subject, and start pruning?
+
+Cheers!
+
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Tue Mar 13 07:48:46 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+hermes up 13 hour(s), 15 min.
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+<PRE>Answering my own email:
+
+&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>
+and Josh!
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+Since I can't vote for myself, I've only got one to cast; my
+deputy leader vote goes to Bradley.
+
+We've still got quite a while for people to cast a vote - please don't
+be shy!
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+Cheers,
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Tue Mar 13 07:43:41 EST 2012
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I understand that we might all be feeling a bit uneasy; it's amazing
+</I>&gt;<i> how unsettling it can be when your team up and explodes around you.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's nice, though, to see that we're capable of such a *civilised*
+</I>&gt;<i> explosion; I've been on lists where it was definitely a case of, duck
+</I>&gt;<i> and run for cover. Can I just say: I'm really glad to be working with
+</I>&gt;<i> all of you?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Council has asked us to please *have the final splash screens* (text
+</I>&gt;<i> and all) ready by the time of our meeting Wednesday, no ifs buts or
+</I>&gt;<i> maybes... so we better get cracking, or ennael might come after us!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway: we need to get these texts nailed down. So, here are the
+</I>&gt;<i> parameters:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5 install screens that rotate through the install time. Artwork can
+</I>&gt;<i> choose which 5; we just provide the text;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Each screen should have one (1) subject; and
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The text should take no more than 20 words for each screen.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please can we pick 5 subjects, get together all the texts on that
+</I>&gt;<i> subject, and start pruning?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>
+PS: if we agree on a time, we could do it together on a piratepad.
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Tue Mar 13 08:12:54 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
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+<PRE>On 03/12/2012 04:13 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Each screen should have one (1) subject; and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The text should take no more than 20 words for each screen.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please can we pick 5 subjects, get together all the texts on that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> subject, and start pruning?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: if we agree on a time, we could do it together on a piratepad.
+</I>
+Outside of my day job, the only night I have free this week is tonight.
+I start a new class this week, so think should calm down a bit after
+week 1 is down.
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+<PRE>On 03/12/2012 03:38 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Trish did you forget about Josh in your email, or did he tell you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that he didn't want to be deputy leader any more?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Aaargh! I did forget, damn. Please add Josh to the list of candidates.
+</I>&gt;<i> My apologies, Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+No worries :-) Even if I don't win a seat I still intend on helping
+where I can. Unofficial assistant/secretary?...LOL
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> On 03/12/2012 04:13 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Each screen should have one (1) subject; and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The text should take no more than 20 words for each screen.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Please can we pick 5 subjects, get together all the texts on that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; subject, and start pruning?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; PS: if we agree on a time, we could do it together on a piratepad.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Outside of my day job, the only night I have free this week is
+</I>&gt;<i> tonight. I start a new class this week, so think should calm down a
+</I>&gt;<i> bit after week 1 is down.
+</I>
+No probs Josh! I have to sign off in about half an hour (when the
+council meeting finishes) and start my day, so tomorrow night would be
+better for me - what about everyone else?
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Tue Mar 13 08:27:54 EST 2012
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> On 03/12/2012 03:38 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Trish did you forget about Josh in your email, or did he tell you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; that he didn't want to be deputy leader any more?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Aaargh! I did forget, damn. Please add Josh to the list of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; candidates. My apologies, Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No worries :-) Even if I don't win a seat I still intend on helping
+</I>&gt;<i> where I can. Unofficial assistant/secretary?...LOL
+</I>
+Not so much of the unofficial... there's plenty of work for all of us!
+
+(And the election's not over yet. 11pm AEST tonight, so.)
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+OK, here are a few thoughts (consider them my planks for running if you
+like, even though that's not my intent). I see a lot of lurkers, and a
+decent amount of people who want to join in Mageia but seem to be a
+little timid. I think we are attracting many first time contributors -
+which is awesome!! But Maybe a bit more hand holding or other
+infrastructure would work.
+
+For example, when I joined the packaging team I was welcomed with open
+arms, given a mentor, and several places to go to ask questions. It was
+in a word, friggin sweet (ok that's 2 words)!
+
+My point in all of this is I'd love to see something that gives the
+average user an &quot;foot in the door&quot; to working within Mageia. As much as
+I hate to admit it, this is one thing Ubuntu and to a lesser extent
+Fedora do very well.
+
+This is the total brainstorming part but maybe it will get the ball
+rolling. Why not a mageia-users team/council seat? Marketing of the
+viral kind would be amazing for us, and who better to do that than
+excited and enthusiastic users? I'm not talking any pay for membership
+thing, but for a user to say, my application was accepted to the
+mageia-users team means something to many people. I don't pretend that
+any of these ideas are particularly good, but just some thinking I've
+been doing about bridging the gap between dev/teams/ and community.
+
+I'd love to hear ideas and thoughts on this. With Mga 2 coming up, I'd
+love to see us making a splash with something more than just download
+and visit the forum once in awhile.
+
+Thanks!
+Josh
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+On 03/12/2012 02:13 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: if we agree on a time, we could do it together on a piratepad.
+</I>
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+That would be a great collaboration setting to whittle down copy. I'll
+be available in the evenings and with the exception of a dental
+appointment tomorrow, can make arrangements to attend a daytime
+gathering too.
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+If the time frame isn't optimal I'll do my best to make it fit in order
+to accommodate the most people at once.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> appointment tomorrow, can make arrangements to attend a daytime
+</I>&gt;<i> gathering too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If the time frame isn't optimal I'll do my best to make it fit in order
+</I>&gt;<i> to accommodate the most people at once.
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+Looking at my schedule I may have a shirt amount of free time tomorrow
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+On 03/12/2012 12:43 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 12/03/12 19:38, Donald Stewart wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For the kde/gnome/lxde issue, how would:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> .......the elegent, revolutionary and lightweight kde, gnome and lxde be?
+</I>
+
+I looked and looked, and couldn't find this post by Donald. So I'll just
+quote and respond to his missing post here secondhandedly.
+
+The point I wanted to focus on is the word *lightweight*.
+
+KDE isn't considered lightweight. It's pretty bloaty, along with Gnome
+and Enlightenment.
+
+The lightweights out there are Xfce, LXDE, BlackBox, FluxBox, and the
+FVWMs - but not KDE :)
+
+The 'Cholesterol' count is actually going up with regards to Xfce too,
+but at this juncture it's still considered lightweight.
+
+I just thought I'd mention that so we don't end up with copy saying that
+KDE is lightweight. There would be more than a few chuckles out there if
+we let that one through.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
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+&gt;<i> OK, here are a few thoughts (consider them my planks for running if
+</I>&gt;<i> you like, even though that's not my intent). I see a lot of lurkers,
+</I>&gt;<i> and a decent amount of people who want to join in Mageia but seem to
+</I>&gt;<i> be a little timid. I think we are attracting many first time
+</I>&gt;<i> contributors - which is awesome!! But Maybe a bit more hand holding or
+</I>&gt;<i> other infrastructure would work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For example, when I joined the packaging team I was welcomed with open
+</I>&gt;<i> arms, given a mentor, and several places to go to ask questions. It
+</I>&gt;<i> was in a word, friggin sweet (ok that's 2 words)!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My point in all of this is I'd love to see something that gives the
+</I>&gt;<i> average user an &quot;foot in the door&quot; to working within Mageia. As much
+</I>&gt;<i> as I hate to admit it, this is one thing Ubuntu and to a lesser extent
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora do very well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is the total brainstorming part but maybe it will get the ball
+</I>&gt;<i> rolling. Why not a mageia-users team/council seat? Marketing of the
+</I>&gt;<i> viral kind would be amazing for us, and who better to do that than
+</I>&gt;<i> excited and enthusiastic users? I'm not talking any pay for membership
+</I>&gt;<i> thing, but for a user to say, my application was accepted to the
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-users team means something to many people. I don't pretend that
+</I>&gt;<i> any of these ideas are particularly good, but just some thinking I've
+</I>&gt;<i> been doing about bridging the gap between dev/teams/ and community.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd love to hear ideas and thoughts on this. With Mga 2 coming up, I'd
+</I>&gt;<i> love to see us making a splash with something more than just download
+</I>&gt;<i> and visit the forum once in awhile.
+</I>
+I agree and really everyone who uses Mageia is part of the community.
+
+There are many ways people can contribute to Mageia without being on an
+official team for it. For example when I mentioned IRC cloaks on the
+Mageia discuss and marketing mailing lists, I mentioned how someone
+should be able to do a lot of Mageia support on IRC and then receive
+one. Well when Mageia has the IRC cloaks sorted out with Freenode this is.
+
+With Ubuntu there's a guy who I assume still helps out a lot in the big
+IRC channel, and as far as I know all he did for Ubuntu or mainly, was
+IRC support, and as a result of becoming one of the main support people
+in the channel, he was able to become a Ubuntu Community Member and get
+the IRC cloak for example.
+
+Another example of contributing to Mageia, but not really as part of an
+official team would be what I do with the #mageia-social channel. I
+build up the #mageia-social IRC channel, and welcome new users to the
+channel, and help keep people interested in the Mageia community.
+However really this is done as a team in a way with the other users of
+the channel who tend to chat there :), because people in general aren't
+likely to stick around for long, if not that much happens in there.
+
+Someone who uses the channel has even donated money twice to Mageia, and
+he doesn't use the distribution at the moment, but he uses the
+#mageia-social channel :).
+
+Mageia can also be mentioned and promoted on podcasts for example by
+people, be they on an official team for the project or not. In fact I
+went on a podcast for my first time as a guest, to talk about Mageia and
+Desktop Linux in general and so on last year, as I was slowly deciding
+what I wanted to do for Mageia other than IRC and Identica stuff, before
+I joined any official teams.
+
+Took me quite a while to join any official teams, although I had been
+thinking about marketing for a rather long time here and there before I
+joined, and talked to Trish on IRC a few times about joining. Plus some
+stuff to do with the mailing lists and what email address I would use
+before I joined any teams.
+
+Someone could make tutorial videos for doing things with Mageia just for
+fun for example and not be on any official team for Mageia.
+
+Or someone could type blog posts every now and again about Mageia,
+because they like the distro and not be on any official teams for example.
+
+Someone could also help to build up interest in person in their local
+area or country, and not be on any official Magiea teams, yep local
+communities. Oh and I suggest watching this video if haven't already
+seen it:
+<A HREF="http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm">http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm</A>
+
+
+Also someone could help to gain interest in Mageia on social networking
+sites and not be on any official teams. I did that for a long time
+before joining any official teams using Identica, although that was
+mainly to make sure news would show in the Mageia group as well, but
+still: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+
+Really everyone who uses Mageia is part of the world wide users
+community :).
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+&gt;<i> &gt; PS: if we agree on a time, we could do it together on a piratepad.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would be a great collaboration setting to whittle down copy. I'll
+</I>&gt;<i> be available in the evenings and with the exception of a dental
+</I>&gt;<i> appointment tomorrow, can make arrangements to attend a daytime
+</I>&gt;<i> gathering too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If the time frame isn't optimal I'll do my best to make it fit in
+</I>&gt;<i> order to accommodate the most people at once.
+</I>
+Can you nominate a time in UTC? We're all over the planet, so I'm not
+sure what your evening is on my clock!
+
+Cheers,
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+&gt;<i> Can you nominate a time in UTC? We're all over the planet, so I'm not
+</I>&gt;<i> sure what your evening is on my clock!
+</I>A meeting about text for the splash screens this seems to be? How about
+8pm UTC/GMT Tuesday (now here later on today)? Or even 9pm, 10pm, or
+11pm for example, that's my time, and I won't be doing much this
+evening. 7pm UTC/GMT would work as well really, but that's also for me
+the docs team meeting.
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+&gt;<i> On 03/12/2012 12:43 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 12/03/12 19:38, Donald Stewart wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; For the kde/gnome/lxde issue, how would:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; .......the elegent, revolutionary and lightweight kde, gnome and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; lxde be?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I looked and looked, and couldn't find this post by Donald. So I'll
+</I>&gt;<i> just quote and respond to his missing post here secondhandedly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The point I wanted to focus on is the word *lightweight*.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> KDE isn't considered lightweight. It's pretty bloaty, along with Gnome
+</I>&gt;<i> and Enlightenment.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The lightweights out there are Xfce, LXDE, BlackBox, FluxBox, and the
+</I>&gt;<i> FVWMs - but not KDE :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The 'Cholesterol' count is actually going up with regards to Xfce too,
+</I>&gt;<i> but at this juncture it's still considered lightweight.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just thought I'd mention that so we don't end up with copy saying
+</I>&gt;<i> that KDE is lightweight. There would be more than a few chuckles out
+</I>&gt;<i> there if we let that one through.
+</I>
+8-) I knew someone would pick this up.
+
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+<PRE>2012/3/12 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and Josh!
+</I>
+I don't know if I have a right to vote, since I don't even know if I'm
+part of the team (I follow the ML and try to give my opinion from time
+to time, but I'm definitely not active in marcom).
+
+So, ignore my vote if it is not legitimate ;) It would be:
+Team leader: Trish
+Deputy leader: Sebastian
+
+Cheers,
+R&#233;mi V. / Akien
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/12 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know if I have a right to vote, since I don't even know if I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> part of the team (I follow the ML and try to give my opinion from time
+</I>&gt;<i> to time, but I'm definitely not active in marcom).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, ignore my vote if it is not legitimate ;) It would be:
+</I>&gt;<i> Team leader: Trish
+</I>&gt;<i> Deputy leader: Sebastian
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> R&#233;mi V. / Akien
+</I>
+Akien: vote away. If you&#180;re on the list, you&#180;re on the team!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>
+0451 114 254
+Export Development, Marketing, Education
+Adaptive Technology Consulting
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+properties is good.
+
+I don't really think xfce qualifies as a light de anymore....
+
+Sorry for the tp, on my phone.
+
+On 13 Mar 2012 02:22, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On 03/12/2012 12:43 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 12/03/12 19:38, Donald Stewart wrote:...
+</I>8-) I knew someone would pick this up.
+
+- --
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+- -35.67896, 142.66637
+Tue Mar 13 13:21:43 EST 2012
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>
+and Josh, my apologies again Josh!
+
+Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,
+the results are:
+
+Trish (for team leader): 6
+
+For deputy:
+
+Josh 1
+Bradley 1
+Seb 3
+
+I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't miscount;
+if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy and I'm still
+in the hot seat!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+On 03/12/2012 06:26 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Bradley,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> PS: if we agree on a time, we could do it together on a piratepad.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That would be a great collaboration setting to whittle down copy. I'll
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be available in the evenings and with the exception of a dental
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> appointment tomorrow, can make arrangements to attend a daytime
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gathering too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If the time frame isn't optimal I'll do my best to make it fit in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> order to accommodate the most people at once.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you nominate a time in UTC? We're all over the planet, so I'm not
+</I>&gt;<i> sure what your evening is on my clock!
+</I>
+Sure :)
+
+Josh appears to be in the US, and seems to have the most limiting
+schedule, saying he could be available this evening, so I think maybe
+working within his constraints might facilitate the largest turnout.
+
+I'll be here for a couple of more hours, and then sleep, then a dental
+appointment late this afternoon. After that I'm open from about 01:00hrs
+UTC when I get back from the dentist until about 13:00hrs UTC.
+
+Sebastian appears to be available during his evenings, which appears
+somewhat problematic from this standpoint.
+
+Josh, what kind of time window do you have this evening? Remembering
+that at 01:00hrs UTC it's midnight in Melbourne AU, and we want to make
+it convenient for her.
+
+Judging by time stamps, Trish seems to be most active early evenings and
+very early mornings US time (09:00 - 12:00hrs UTC) and early evenings US
+time, 11:00 - 12:00hrs UTC), yet then again her schedule is as sporadic
+as mine LOL.
+
+Sebastian? If we hear from Josh shortly, would you be able to work
+within that window somewhere?
+
+Once we can settle on a time then Trish can simply post a link to the
+public pad just before the session and we can meet there.
+
+And if none of that works, then as a backup plan I would suggest working
+within the constraints of Sebastian's schedule, but it seems a little
+choppy with several small windows that need to be chosen from.
+
+Here's what Sebastian's schedule looked like last night:
+Open 19:00hrs - 23:00hrs UTC.
+
+If there are other suggestions or folks who want to attend the session
+then pls post your blackout times here in UTC and I'll do my best to
+find a time to propose whether I can make it or not.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>Read that earlier and now replying :).
+
+Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours before
+voting was over :), and yes now I am :).
+
+Thank You, Donald, Josh, and R&#233;mi/Akien for voting for me :).
+
+On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i> and Josh, my apologies again Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,
+</I>&gt;<i> the results are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish (for team leader): 6
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For deputy:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Seb 3
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't miscount;
+</I>&gt;<i> if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy and I'm still
+</I>&gt;<i> in the hot seat!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+I'm going down for a late morning nap, then I'm off to the dentist.
+
+If anything transpires between now and when I get back please just move
+forward. I wouldn't want an effective session not to occur on my behalf,
+and it should't take long anyway with so many good ideas that have
+already been put forward.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>On 13/03/12 16:11, Bradley D. Thornton wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> On 03/12/2012 06:26 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Bradley,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> PS: if we agree on a time, we could do it together on a piratepad.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That would be a great collaboration setting to whittle down copy. I'll
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be available in the evenings and with the exception of a dental
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> appointment tomorrow, can make arrangements to attend a daytime
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gathering too.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If the time frame isn't optimal I'll do my best to make it fit in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> order to accommodate the most people at once.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can you nominate a time in UTC? We're all over the planet, so I'm not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sure what your evening is on my clock!
+</I>&gt;<i> Sure :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh appears to be in the US, and seems to have the most limiting
+</I>&gt;<i> schedule, saying he could be available this evening, so I think maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> working within his constraints might facilitate the largest turnout.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll be here for a couple of more hours, and then sleep, then a dental
+</I>&gt;<i> appointment late this afternoon. After that I'm open from about 01:00hrs
+</I>&gt;<i> UTC when I get back from the dentist until about 13:00hrs UTC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian appears to be available during his evenings, which appears
+</I>&gt;<i> somewhat problematic from this standpoint.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh, what kind of time window do you have this evening? Remembering
+</I>&gt;<i> that at 01:00hrs UTC it's midnight in Melbourne AU, and we want to make
+</I>&gt;<i> it convenient for her.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Judging by time stamps, Trish seems to be most active early evenings and
+</I>&gt;<i> very early mornings US time (09:00 - 12:00hrs UTC) and early evenings US
+</I>&gt;<i> time, 11:00 - 12:00hrs UTC), yet then again her schedule is as sporadic
+</I>&gt;<i> as mine LOL.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian? If we hear from Josh shortly, would you be able to work
+</I>&gt;<i> within that window somewhere?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Once we can settle on a time then Trish can simply post a link to the
+</I>&gt;<i> public pad just before the session and we can meet there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And if none of that works, then as a backup plan I would suggest working
+</I>&gt;<i> within the constraints of Sebastian's schedule, but it seems a little
+</I>&gt;<i> choppy with several small windows that need to be chosen from.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here's what Sebastian's schedule looked like last night:
+</I>&gt;<i> Open 19:00hrs - 23:00hrs UTC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If there are other suggestions or folks who want to attend the session
+</I>&gt;<i> then pls post your blackout times here in UTC and I'll do my best to
+</I>&gt;<i> find a time to propose whether I can make it or not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kindest regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - --
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>&gt;<i> Manager Network Services
+</I>&gt;<i> NorthTech Computer
+</I>&gt;<i> TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+</I>&gt;<i> TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+</I>&gt;<i> TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
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+</I>Hmm yeah time zones.
+
+I am a night person at the moment, although more of a day person as well
+at the moment :). So actually really a meeting between 11pm to like 5am
+(or a bit later/earlier even) my time UTC/GMT, should be ok for me
+tonight (,as in Tuesday night or early hours of Wednesday morning).
+
+Trish is 11 hours a head of me at the moment. So 1am here would be mid
+day for her. Trish seems to have a full time job during the week, but
+maybe we can arrange a meeting in her lunch break or something.
+
+I wouldn't normally want to do a team meeting at night, but for this
+there seems to be a good enough reason to possibly do that.
+
+Bradley I assume you are in the US going by your email address and email.
+
+Off topic P.S
+
+Thursday morning will be something, because I am meant to be some where
+at 10:45am.
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+for me I expect, well if I go to bed early enough. I think mid day
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+and 7am in EST. Or possibly 1pm UTC/GMT is much better for everyone for
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+<PRE>On 13 March 2012 18:51, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Read that earlier and now replying :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours before
+</I>&gt;<i> voting was over :), and yes now I am :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank You, Donald, Josh, and R&#233;mi/Akien for voting for me :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and Josh, my apologies again Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,
+</I>&gt;<i> the results are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish (for team leader): 6
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For deputy:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Seb 3
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't miscount;
+</I>&gt;<i> if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy and I'm still
+</I>&gt;<i> in the hot seat!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Count looks good to me, congrats you two. At least there wasn't a
+similar mix up to as with the artwork elections.
+
+Hopefully I can be around more after uni settles.
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+<PRE>I'm UTC minus 5, if that helps any
+
+
+
+----- Reply message -----
+From: &quot;Donald Stewart&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+To: &quot;Mageia marketing team discussion list&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+Date: Tue, Mar 13, 2012 4:18 pm
+
+
+On 13 March 2012 18:51, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Read that earlier and now replying :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours before
+</I>&gt;<i> voting was over :), and yes now I am :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank You, Donald, Josh, and R&#233;mi/Akien for voting for me :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and Josh, my apologies again Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,
+</I>&gt;<i> the results are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish (for team leader): 6
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For deputy:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Seb 3
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't miscount;
+</I>&gt;<i> if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy and I'm still
+</I>&gt;<i> in the hot seat!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+Count looks good to me, congrats you two. At least there wasn't a
+similar mix up to as with the artwork elections.
+
+Hopefully I can be around more after uni settles.
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Voting%20for%20our%20team%20lead%20and%20deputy%20lead%20-%0A%20RESULTS&In-Reply-To=%3C20120314083408.7e21e900%40hermes%3E"
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+ <I>Tue Mar 13 22:34:08 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Okay!
+
+Can we please start a piratepad here:
+
+<A HREF="http://bn.parinux.org/">http://bn.parinux.org/</A>
+
+(it's more robust than piratepad itself, but if you're not comfortable
+with it being in French, piratepad is piratepad.net.)
+
+Whoever starts it, please email the link to the actual collaborative
+document to the list. If you could paste in the texts we have so far -
+mine, Seb's, other suggestions - we'll have somewhere to start. Once
+the doc is up, we can work on it together if we're awake together or
+separately if we're not!
+
+Seb is UTC, you(Josh)'re UTC -5, Bradley is sleeping (I think), I'm
+UTC+11.
+
+I am going on trusty old timeanddate.com, and this is what it looks
+like:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?year=2012&amp;month=3&amp;day=14&amp;p1=152&amp;p2=263">http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?year=2012&amp;month=3&amp;day=14&amp;p1=152&amp;p2=263</A>
+
+If you guys are okay to do it in a couple of hours' time - say midnight
+UTC for an hour, because that's going to be plenty of time - I'm
+available then. Otherwise, get started and I'll check in once I have
+the link.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+&gt;<i> I'm UTC minus 5, if that helps any
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----- Reply message -----
+</I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Donald Stewart&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: &quot;Mageia marketing team discussion list&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt; Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for
+</I>&gt;<i> our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS Date: Tue, Mar 13,
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012 4:18 pm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 13 March 2012 18:51, Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Read that earlier and now replying :).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; before voting was over :), and yes now I am :).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thank You, Donald, Josh, and R&#233;mi/Akien for voting for me :).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and Josh, my apologies again Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the results are:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Trish (for team leader): 6
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For deputy:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Josh 1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Bradley 1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Seb 3
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; miscount; if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and I'm still in the hot seat!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Count looks good to me, congrats you two. At least there wasn't a
+</I>&gt;<i> similar mix up to as with the artwork elections.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hopefully I can be around more after uni settles.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Wed Mar 14 08:24:36 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+hermes up 10 hour(s), 0 min.
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+Some thoughts came to mind and this is me expressing them in a email :):
+
+We have a Mageia marketing team, but yes indeed we are very much so in
+different time zones in general it seems.
+
+Trish is currently 11 hours a head of England where I am, not that long
+to go now and that will be 9 hours a head instead when the clocks
+change. As a result the current time for the meeting which seems to be
+8pm GMT/UTC Wednesday will be 5am for Trish.
+
+Bradley is in California, I remember now after asking in another email.
+(Plus I saw the time it said his email was sent about getting some sleep
+earlier.) That's 8 hours behind the UK at the moment, however I think
+not that long to go now and for two weeks it will be 7 hours instead,
+before we change to summer time as well.
+
+Also at the end of the year it seems at the moment USA go forward an
+hour before the UK first, because the clocks change first, well the
+states that change time which is most of them.
+
+Josh is five hours behind the UK in EST.
+
+I think for a marketing meeting, that either Trish or myself your newly
+elected deputy leader must be at the meeting, and then the time and day
+can fit in with what the meeting is going to be about and which people
+are mainly going to be chatting at the meeting. If other members of the
+team can make it as well that's great :).
+
+As for topics for future meetings and relivent information, I think
+that Trish and myself should be in good contact with each other about
+this, but also at times with other members of the team.
+
+Marketing team members can also chat in the #mageia-marcom IRC channel
+with each other when there isn't a meeting. Or well the #mageia-social
+channel that I started as well even.
+
+However in general, and I think Trish would agree with me, that when it
+comes to the marketing team, that at the moment it's best to communicate
+with each other mainly using the mailing list, with the exception of the
+meetings.
+
+What are your thoughts about this message, fellow Mageia marketing team
+members?
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+________________________________
+ From: Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;
+To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:34 PM
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+
+Hi
+
+Midnight UTC is 2 AM for me :D
+It is my go to bed time, but i try to stay awake at least for while :)
+
+tumbeliina
+
+
+
+
+Okay!
+
+Can we please start a piratepad here:
+
+<A HREF="http://bn.parinux.org/">http://bn.parinux.org/</A>
+
+(it's more robust than piratepad itself, but if you're not comfortable
+with it being in French, piratepad is piratepad.net.)
+
+Whoever starts it, please email the link to the actual collaborative
+document to the list. If you could paste in the texts we have so far -
+mine, Seb's, other suggestions - we'll have somewhere to start. Once
+the doc is up, we can work on it together if we're awake together or
+separately if we're not!
+
+Seb is UTC, you(Josh)'re UTC -5, Bradley is sleeping (I think), I'm
+UTC+11.
+
+I am going on trusty old timeanddate.com, and this is what it looks
+like:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?year=2012&amp;month=3&amp;day=14&amp;p1=152&amp;p2=263">http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?year=2012&amp;month=3&amp;day=14&amp;p1=152&amp;p2=263</A>
+
+If you guys are okay to do it in a couple of hours' time - say midnight
+UTC for an hour, because that's going to be plenty of time - I'm
+available then. Otherwise, get started and I'll check in once I have
+the link.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> I'm UTC minus 5, if that helps any
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----- Reply message -----
+</I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Donald Stewart&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: &quot;Mageia marketing team discussion list&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt; Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for
+</I>&gt;<i> our team lead and deputy lead -&#160;&#160;&#160; RESULTS Date: Tue, Mar 13,
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012 4:18 pm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 13 March 2012 18:51, Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Read that earlier and now replying :).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; before voting was over :), and yes now I am :).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thank You, Donald, Josh, and R&#233;mi/Akien for voting for me :).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and Josh, my apologies again Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the results are:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Trish (for team leader): 6
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For deputy:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Josh&#160;&#160;&#160; &#160;&#160;&#160; 1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Bradley&#160;&#160;&#160; &#160;&#160;&#160; 1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Seb&#160;&#160;&#160; &#160;&#160;&#160; 3
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; miscount; if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and I'm still in the hot seat!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Count looks good to me, congrats you two. At least there wasn't a
+</I>&gt;<i> similar mix up to as with the artwork elections.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hopefully I can be around more after uni settles.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i>
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Wed Mar 14 08:24:36 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+hermes up 10 hour(s), 0 min.
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga
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+<PRE>Trish midnight UTC/GMT no problem for me :).
+
+Tumberlina I think it would be worth staying up to 2am Finnish time for
+this :). Well if you want to help with the text :).
+
+Trish and Tumberlina you both were using the wrong message subject in
+your email about this, so I did another subject.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+&gt;<i> Trish midnight UTC/GMT no problem for me :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Tumberlina I think it would be worth staying up to 2am Finnish time
+</I>&gt;<i> for this :). Well if you want to help with the text :).
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+If you could mail the link to the list, I'll be around in about half an
+hour.
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+Cheers,
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+Wed Mar 14 09:57:13 EST 2012
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Trish midnight UTC/GMT no problem for me :).
+</I>&gt;<i> If you could mail the link to the list, I'll be around in about half an
+</I>&gt;<i> hour.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Ok no problem :), and Tumberlina started a pad:
+<A HREF="http://bn.parinux.org/79kY3PIF2Z">http://bn.parinux.org/79kY3PIF2Z</A> and I am about to copy stuff into it :).
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+</I>
+By the way - not on IRC, on the piratepad itself... can't do a thing
+until you send me a link!
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Wed Mar 14 10:34:49 EST 2012
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+&gt;<i> By the way - not on IRC, on the piratepad itself... can't do a thing
+</I>&gt;<i> until you send me a link!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I just did that in the email I just sent, but here is the link again:
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+<PRE>Hi all
+
+Seb and I have thrashed out these 5 texts, and if nobody has any
+comments or edits, this is what we'll send to Artwork later today:
+
+1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of users,
+developers and advocates from around the world.
+
+2. Free software means choice: KDE, Gnome, LXDE or other desktops;
+Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution
+for mail...
+
+3. Mageia covers your graphics and video creation and editing needs
+with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+
+4. Mageia's Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up your
+hardware, software and more, all in one place.
+
+5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash, KMyMoney
+and others cover word processing, spreadsheets, presentations and
+finance.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Wed Mar 14 11:43:45 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
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+Patricia Fraser wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi all
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Seb and I have thrashed out these 5 texts, and if nobody has any
+</I>&gt;<i> comments or edits, this is what we'll send to Artwork later today:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of users,
+</I>&gt;<i> developers and advocates from around the world.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Free software means choice: KDE, Gnome, LXDE or other desktops;
+</I>&gt;<i> Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution
+</I>&gt;<i> for mail...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Mageia covers your graphics and video creation and editing needs
+</I>&gt;<i> with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+</I>
+No, no NO!
+
+3. Mageia covers your graphics, your video creation and editing needs
+with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. Mageia's Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up your
+</I>&gt;<i> hardware, software and more, all in one place.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash, KMyMoney
+</I>&gt;<i> and others cover word processing, spreadsheets, presentations and
+</I>&gt;<i> finance.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+</I>&gt;<i> -35.67896, 142.66637
+</I>&gt;<i> Wed Mar 14 11:43:45 EST 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+</I>&gt;<i> hermes up 13 hour(s), 18 min.
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:46:04 +1100
+</I>&gt;<i> Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Seb and I have thrashed out these 5 texts, and if nobody has any
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; comments or edits, this is what we'll send to Artwork later today:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; users, developers and advocates from around the world.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2. Free software means choice: KDE, Gnome, LXDE or other desktops;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for mail...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 3. Mageia covers your graphics and video creation and editing needs
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, no NO!
+</I>
+8-) Where were you when we were piratepadding?
+
+&gt;<i> 3. Mageia covers your graphics, your video creation and editing needs
+</I>&gt;<i> with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+</I>
+ok!
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; 4. Mageia's Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; your hardware, software and more, all in one place.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; KMyMoney and others cover word processing, spreadsheets,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; presentations and finance.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -35.67896, 142.66637
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Wed Mar 14 11:43:45 EST 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hermes up 13 hour(s), 18 min.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
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+On 03/13/2012 05:46 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Seb and I have thrashed out these 5 texts, and if nobody has any
+</I>&gt;<i> comments or edits, this is what we'll send to Artwork later today:
+</I>
+
+It all looks pretty good to me.
+
+We had a lot of samples to chop up and play with, which helped out a lot
+and using a public pad at <A HREF="http://bn.parinux.org/">http://bn.parinux.org/</A> proved productive as
+well :)
+
+I'm not feeling too well right now. All the novacaine has worn off and I
+wouldn't let them give me any of that vicodine stuff, so I just woke up
+to gobble a handful of ibuprofen and it's back to bed.
+
+The work was much more invasive than I had anticipated, and I've got
+about two more visits before everything is finished. At least I won't
+have to smell burning enamel from the drill - that parts over.
+
+Congrats to all of us for moving this forward, and I for one am really
+looking forward to seeing the copy folded in with the imagery before it
+goes to packaging.
+
+Ironically, I actually won't ever see that artwork in real life LOL, and
+some of you might have gleaned that when I alluded to the need for
+better LVM support in the text based install ;)
+
+Well, I'm going to lay down now, and I'm canceling all my appointments
+tomorrow. Maybe a movie to fall asleep to... and chicken soup through a
+straw so it doesn't dribble down my chin. Yum :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+- --
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+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
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+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
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+I think something like this may be on Trish's plans already, but I am
+not sure exactly.
+
+I think we should have a joint marketing and artwork team meeting at
+about 8pm UTC/GMT (so rather soon) about the installer slide show
+graphics for tomorrow's Mageia 2 Beta 2 release.
+
+For any last minute improvements on the text, and also so that Guala can
+be properly told which text to add to which images.
+
+Trish reply to this when you read it, I think you'll be active on the
+mailing list again soon :).
+
+I know that Max is doing something else this evening, but we can do this
+without him.
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+Minutes of tonight's meeting are here:
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+Cheers,
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+<PRE>On 03/14/2012 03:32 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Minutes of tonight's meeting are here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2012/mageia-marcom.2012-03-14-20.06.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2012/mageia-marcom.2012-03-14-20.06.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>
+Much appreciated by those of us who's schedules don't allow us to make
+them :-)
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi folks,
+
+Here are the final texts for the Mageia 2 install screens:
+
+
+1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of
+ users, developers and advocates from around the world.
+
+2. Free software means choice: KDE, Gnome, LXDE or other desktops;
+ Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution
+ for mail...
+
+3. Mageia covers your graphics, your video creation and editing needs
+ with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+
+4. Mageia's Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up
+ your hardware, software and more, all in one place.
+
+5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash,
+ KMyMoney and others cover word processing, spreadsheets,
+ presentations and finance.
+
+This is the order we'd like to see them presented, but we don't have
+any input to give you on which slide should go with which text - over
+to you!
+
+Many thanks to Seb and John for their input!
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Thu Mar 15 07:45:01 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+hermes up 1 hour(s), 1 min.
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 07:46:34AM +1100, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. Free software means choice: KDE, Gnome, LXDE or other desktops;
+</I>&gt;<i> FYI: It is GNOME, not Gnome.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Ok let's have it spelt correctly in the image :).
+
+P.S
+
+Olav I didn't know you were on the artwork mailing list, but ok good you
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+Hash: RIPEMD160
+
+Well yesterday morning I drove back over to the dentist and pickup that
+prescription.
+
+It's not very fun to eat but the prescription makes it a bit easier not
+to care about it if I simply double the dose and interval instructions
+on the label.
+
+I should be back in the swing of things in the next day or two, yet in
+the meantime I fup'd on the logs.
+
+There's a few contact points I can add to the notification list. I'll
+dig those up over the next couple of weeks, and Trish, if you can shoot
+me on over any scraps of dangling release announcement copy to add to my
+scratch pad that would be nice to have as a reference too.
+
+I tend to develop such news articles over a period of a few weeks before
+publishing, providing ample time to address my grammatical shortcomings ;)
+
+Right now my mouth is hurting so I guess it's time to dope up again and
+lay back down after a bowl of chick soup.
+
+Yes that was record time for completion of the meeting, and nice to see
+from the logs that it went so smoothly :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
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+On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 00:37, Josh King &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> This is the total brainstorming part but maybe it will get the ball rolling.
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not a mageia-users team/council seat?
+</I>
+That's an idea that was proposed at the very start of the design of
+Mageia's governance: users (through local user groups, ml, forums,
+other) would have a seat to Council. But this didn't happen, for no
+one stepped in, and user groups were not ready/coordinated for that.
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 00:37, Josh King &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is the total brainstorming part but maybe it will get the ball rolling.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why not a mageia-users team/council seat?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's an idea that was proposed at the very start of the design of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia's governance: users (through local user groups, ml, forums,
+</I>&gt;<i> other) would have a seat to Council. But this didn't happen, for no
+</I>&gt;<i> one stepped in, and user groups were not ready/coordinated for that.
+</I>&gt;<i> But why not now, if it can?
+</I>
+Actually I did write proposal about that and sent it to council.
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities</A>
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+But due to very large todo lists, not many people answered till now.
+
+Oliver
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 19:47, Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/15 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 00:37, Josh King &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is the total brainstorming part but maybe it will get the ball rolling.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Why not a mageia-users team/council seat?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's an idea that was proposed at the very start of the design of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia's governance: users (through local user groups, ml, forums,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other) would have a seat to Council. But this didn't happen, for no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> one stepped in, and user groups were not ready/coordinated for that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But why not now, if it can?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually I did write proposal about that and sent it to council.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But due to very large todo lists, not many people answered till now.
+</I>
+Ha, of course, yes! (where have I lost my memory... Sorry Oliver) :)
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+&gt;<i> Ha, of course, yes! (where have I lost my memory... Sorry Oliver) :)
+</I>No prob. I didn't push because I wanted to wait for the beta2 release.
+Perhaps all of us have a bit more time now.
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
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+There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,
+to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and
+artwork.
+
+What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's
+very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it
+personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.
+
+Cheers,
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+ <B>Donald Stewart</B>
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+<PRE>Im for it. They're are many people on both teams and most if not all
+projects are connected.
+
+However, meetings and whatnot should remain separate. Although that OS
+probably getting ahead of myself.
+
+On 15 Mar 2012 20:44, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+Hi all,
+
+There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,
+to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and
+artwork.
+
+What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's
+very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it
+personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE>On 03/15/2012 03:44 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,
+</I>&gt;<i> to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's
+</I>&gt;<i> very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it
+</I>&gt;<i> personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>
+I think it makes sense to merge them. Maybe MArtCom team? ;-)
+
+Personally what I would really like to see is more community outreach
+type functions; getting users involved in more areas. Something like a
+planet for mageia users even might be a good start? Anyway, I've been
+kicking around some ideas and will put them up to the group once they've
+solidified.
+
+Thanks!
+Josh
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+<PRE>I think too that it makes sense to merge art and marcom :)
+
+Good art is the best marketing.
+
+tumbeliina
+
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+________________________________
+ From: Josh King &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:55 PM
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
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+On 03/15/2012 03:44 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,
+</I>&gt;<i> to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's
+</I>&gt;<i> very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it
+</I>&gt;<i> personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>
+I think it makes sense to merge them. Maybe MArtCom team? ;-)
+
+Personally what I would really like to see is more community outreach type functions; getting users involved in more areas. Something like a planet for mageia users even might be a good start? Anyway, I've been kicking around some ideas and will put them up to the group once they've solidified.
+
+Thanks!
+Josh
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+&gt;<i> On 03/15/2012 03:44 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.
+</I>
+I wouldn't merge the teams per se (with their leads), but I would make
+a default common channel of communication, both IRC and mailing-list.
+So that communication/sync within teams is easier. But it's important
+that both teams keep a separate seat at the Council.
+
+&gt;<i> I think it makes sense to merge them. Maybe MArtCom team? ;-)
+</I>
+Oliver suggested martkomm :)
+
+&gt;<i> Personally what I would really like to see is more community outreach type
+</I>&gt;<i> functions; getting users involved in more areas. Something like a planet for
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia users even might be a good start?
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A> could be a start (we have other locales,
+and we should upgrade the templates of it to make it more zine-like)
+
+&gt;<i> Anyway, I've been kicking around
+</I>&gt;<i> some ideas and will put them up to the group once they've solidified.
+</I>
+Yes!
+
+
+
+--
+Romain d'Alverny
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+One channel of communication, separate council seats.
+We probably need two defacto leaders (council seats) but I think one deputy
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+&gt;<i> I wouldn't merge the teams per se (with their leads), but I would make
+</I>&gt;<i> a default common channel of communication, both IRC and mailing-list.
+</I>&gt;<i> So that communication/sync within teams is easier. But it's important
+</I>&gt;<i> that both teams keep a separate seat at the Council.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think it makes sense to merge them. Maybe MArtCom team? ;-)
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver suggested martkomm :)
+</I>As Trish already knows I think merging the marketing and communications,
+and artwork team together is a good idea.
+
+I seem to pretty much agree with rda or nearly and I like Josh's name
+suggestion more so than Oliver's.
+
+I think MArtCom should be created, a IRC channel and mailing list. For
+the IRC channel I am willing to register it and set it up as in giving
+leaders and deputy leaders ops for example.
+
+We could also drop two Mageia IRC channels that's marcom and artwork and
+replace them with martcom. It also seems that marcom and artwork aren't
+even registered on the Freenode network, or they are, but not set up in
+the normal way.
+
+As for the mailing list currently marketing and artwork have the mailing
+lists on mailman: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/</A> For some
+reason the newer mailing lists get listed at
+<A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/home">https://ml.mageia.org/l/home</A> instead. It also seems going by a docs team
+meeting that I was in, that the older mailing lists are likely to
+eventually move over to the newer set up. With the newer set up unlike
+the old, a Mageia Identify account is also required to be on the mailing
+lists.
+
+We could still keep the separate team IRC channels and mailing lists,
+but I think it makes much more sense to do a proper merge and stop using
+them.
+
+As for old emails to the mailing lists, they can either stay where they
+are in the archives for the old mailing lists and people stop sending to
+that list, or sending to is disabled. The messages could also be
+archived some where else publicly.
+
+As for the meeting IRC logs they can stay in there sections at
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org">http://meetbot.mageia.org</A> for the old channels, and I expect they can
+also be pointed to from a new martcom IRC channel section.
+
+As for the team leader and deputy team leader positions, I agree with
+rda or pretty much it seems. I think Trish should instantly become the
+leader of the new MArtCom, and I become the deputy leader, since I won
+the vote for becoming that recently for marketing. However Trish and
+myself would be mainly the marketing side of the MArtCom team, and
+leader-wise we need the artwork as well, and so Max for example could
+become the other deputy leader or leader. Like rda suggested and I 100%
+agree with him, the team should have two seats at the council. Well
+actually maybe it should have more than that depending on how things go
+in the future.
+
+I would probably want Max to be the deputy leader or leader of a new
+MArtCom team on the artwork side. TeaAge it seems has been away for a
+long time, and I think the artwork team should have a vote like other
+teams have been doing on who should be leader and deputy leader. Or
+members of a new MArtCom team can vote (if we start that team) for who
+should be the leader and deputy leader on the artwork side.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+ <B>Marcello</B>
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+<PRE>Il 15/03/2012 21:44, Patricia Fraser ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,
+</I>&gt;<i> to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's
+</I>&gt;<i> very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it
+</I>&gt;<i> personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+for me it's ok
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+ <B>R&#233;mi Verschelde</B>
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+<PRE>2012/3/15 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,
+</I>&gt;<i> to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's
+</I>&gt;<i> very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it
+</I>&gt;<i> personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.
+</I>
+I really like this idea. Artwork and marketing are so closely
+intertwined that I find it hard that the work is sequenced. So I am
+totally in favour of this half merge.
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+R&#233;mi / Akien
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+On 03/15/2012 01:44 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,
+</I>&gt;<i> to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork.
+</I>
+Although this has already been decided, and will come to pass, I would
+like to address the issue from the perspective that it actually makes
+little, if any, sense at all.
+
+The next month or so, the MarCom team, already a merge of two business
+concepts called *marketing* and *communications*, will engage in the
+production of copy for press releases (this is called publicity),
+preparing for interviews for podcasts and other media outlets, as well
+as reviews in several Internet staple venues.
+
+Whereas MarCom has worked closely with the Artwork team during this most
+recent phase of the preparation for a new stable release of Mageia, most
+of what the MarCom team has little, if anything to do with the design,
+production, or development of artwork, while *some* of what we do here
+has much to do with intense collaboration with the Artwork Team.
+
+Most of what the MarCom team does has to do with Marketing,
+Communications, and Publicity.
+
+To merge the two would be to cripple the ability for a non-graphical
+arts aspect of standard business operations, and invite a continuation
+of the *bad copy* that marked the first beta releases of Mageia. Copy
+that was published without ever being passed through MarCom, copy that
+was subsequently noted as being a mistake for being published prior to
+passing through MarCom until distilled and matured.
+
+Bad copy translates into a lack of public confidence - no matter how
+pretty the images are.
+
+I believe that a significant reason for the consideration of this
+proposal is to assist the MarCom Team and the Artwork Team work more
+closely throughout the development process of imagery - something I have
+pointed out in earlier posts as &quot;congruent and complimentary&quot;.
+
+Although the production of artwork with text is the end result of a
+symbiosis between these two different disciplines, it just doesn't
+justify IMO the merge between the two teams.
+
+Artwork is... art. In our particular circumstances, it is business graphics.
+
+MarCom and other teams are responsible for interfacing with other Mageia
+teams as well as interfacing with other interdisciplinary professions in
+the outside world. Internally, this includes translation and
+internationalization, while on the outside it includes aspects of the
+professional news media.
+
+The Artwork Teams concerns do not actually involve this type of direct
+interface and relationship with podcasters, press release sites, news
+media sites, television, radio, conventions, internationalization and
+translation, and publicity agents. It is however, the core of imagery
+production in form and format for all of Mageia.
+
+The pre-decided merger of the MarCom Team and the Artwork Team will
+serve in some ways to enhance (but only due to a lack of coordination
+that should have been present in the first place) the *congruent and
+complimentary* development of images with text...
+
+But on the other hand, the merger will dilute our marketing,
+communications, and publicity capabilities, reducing it to the type of
+copy that Mageia debuted with that was sorely lacking in the appearance
+of a polished, and professional business product.
+
+That's my two cents, and I just thought that I would put it out there so
+I have a post to link to when, in the future, people ask, &quot;Why does out
+public relations suck and all of our official announcements look like
+they were never copy edited?
+
+Anyway, my post won't make any difference, but it will serve as an, &quot;I
+told you so&quot;, when a new Publicity and Marketing Team is proposed to
+fill this void in a year or so, after enough new blood has joined the
+project so that no one remembers the MarCom team and it's charter ;)
+
+I hope that helps!
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
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+On 03/15/2012 02:22 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wouldn't merge the teams per se (with their leads), but I would make
+</I>&gt;<i> a default common channel of communication, both IRC and mailing-list.
+</I>&gt;<i> So that communication/sync within teams is easier. But it's important
+</I>&gt;<i> that both teams keep a separate seat at the Council.
+</I>
+
+The *default common channel* of communication is the part that has been
+lacking for the most part, while Max has opined a lack of performance
+and participation as the root cause of much of the problems too.
+
+I agree with Romain that a &quot;merger&quot; is NOT the answer, and offer that
+keeping the two distinctly different, yet complimentary disciplines as
+separate entities of the organization is the best course to stay.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+<PRE>Think of it this way: both artwork and marcom are concerned with the
+appearance of Mageia. It's all about how we present ourselves to the world.
+Whether it's a shiny desktop, eye catching posters or good content on
+podcasts. It all boils down to the same thing: how we look to the outside
+world.
+One of main problems we have with this is good communication. It's not just
+this one project where the two teams need to work together, but it's many
+projects. Thinking back for a few seconds I recall the booth setup for
+FOSDEM, the posters, the disc covers and a few other projects where both
+teams needed to work together.
+Aside from the lack of cooperation *within* the team, there was bad
+communication *between* teams. Efforts have been made in the past to try
+and amplify the cooperation, by staggering IRC meetings, by having people
+sign up for both mailing lists... but they never worked well. Most recently
+when we tried to collaborate we had many double posts on both lists, many
+redundant threads and many people being left out of the loop. Why? Because
+we were trying to communicate across two different lists and more or less
+the same people.
+Now, to clarify: the proposal isn't to merge the actual teams, just the
+communication channels. There will be (under the new proposal) one mailing
+list and one IRC channel. But essentially both teams will function as
+before. Each team will have one leader and one council representative
+(probably the same person for each team) and one deputy. This way both
+teams can function as a single unit when it comes to cross-communication
+and idea sharing (which happens a lot), but each team retains its autonomy.
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+&gt;<i> Anyway, my post won't make any difference
+</I>
+I think it already has :). I think that was a very good message. I do
+however think that it is a good idea to completely merge with the
+artwork team and how I had suggested in my email to this mailing list
+and the artwork. Why? Simple, because then as a whole there will be more
+control, over a team that has been having problems.
+
+The big MArtCom team can be split up into sub teams of people who are
+only or mainly working on specific tasks, but members in our team can
+provide feedback and support for tasks that are being worked on by other
+people in the team as well. For example graphics designers could be
+working on the installer slide show images, but also provide feedback
+about the installer slide show text from marketing people. Or marketing
+team people could be working on reviews, but also provide feedback of
+the looks of the graphics.
+
+Trish has been working with the artwork team quite a lot in the last few
+months or more. I noticed this and that was why I made sure to join the
+artwork team mailing list, and so the team as well as a result, soon
+after joining marketing, even though not really a graphics designer.
+
+Something else it seems the marketing and artwork team IRC meetings have
+been linked together as to when they are for which team. For example one
+week is marketing and the next is artwork and at that time, or that's
+meant to be the idea in general.
+
+P.S
+
+Bradley glad you seem to be feeling better :).
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+
+Just want to add the council representative is usually the leader or
+deputy leader depending on the meeting it seems for Mageia teams,
+however I think for Mageia teams that it would be good if both the
+leader and deputy leader could be this together at council meetings
+together for example.
+
+On 17/03/12 18:43, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+&gt;<i> Think of it this way: both artwork and marcom are concerned with the
+</I>&gt;<i> appearance of Mageia. It's all about how we present ourselves to the
+</I>&gt;<i> world. Whether it's a shiny desktop, eye catching posters or good
+</I>&gt;<i> content on podcasts. It all boils down to the same thing: how we look
+</I>&gt;<i> to the outside world.
+</I>&gt;<i> One of main problems we have with this is good communication. It's not
+</I>&gt;<i> just this one project where the two teams need to work together, but
+</I>&gt;<i> it's many projects. Thinking back for a few seconds I recall the booth
+</I>&gt;<i> setup for FOSDEM, the posters, the disc covers and a few other
+</I>&gt;<i> projects where both teams needed to work together.
+</I>&gt;<i> Aside from the lack of cooperation /within/ the team, there was bad
+</I>&gt;<i> communication /between/ teams. Efforts have been made in the past to
+</I>&gt;<i> try and amplify the cooperation, by staggering IRC meetings, by having
+</I>&gt;<i> people sign up for both mailing lists... but they never worked well.
+</I>&gt;<i> Most recently when we tried to collaborate we had many double posts on
+</I>&gt;<i> both lists, many redundant threads and many people being left out of
+</I>&gt;<i> the loop. Why? Because we were trying to communicate across two
+</I>&gt;<i> different lists and more or less the same people.
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, to clarify: the proposal isn't to merge the actual teams, just
+</I>&gt;<i> the communication channels. There will be (under the new proposal) one
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing list and one IRC channel. But essentially both teams will
+</I>&gt;<i> function as before. Each team will have one leader and one council
+</I>&gt;<i> representative (probably the same person for each team) and one
+</I>&gt;<i> deputy. This way both teams can function as a single unit when it
+</I>&gt;<i> comes to cross-communication and idea sharing (which happens a lot),
+</I>&gt;<i> but each team retains its autonomy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+&lt;snip&gt;
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+&gt;<i> Anyway, my post won't make any difference, but it will serve as an, &quot;I
+</I>&gt;<i> told you so&quot;, when a new Publicity and Marketing Team is proposed to
+</I>&gt;<i> fill this void in a year or so, after enough new blood has joined the
+</I>&gt;<i> project so that no one remembers the MarCom team and it's charter ;)
+</I>
+I have to say: there's an awful lot of sense in what Bradley says. In
+effect, marcomm is being merged with artwork to help artwork - the
+reverse would seem not to be the case.
+
+For the most part, both teams are made up of enthusiastic amateurs;
+there aren't so many of us (I'm one, and Bradley's another - stick your
+hand up if this next bit applies to you - we could use your skills!) who
+have knowledge and experience of what marketing/PR/communication
+actually *is*, and can do them.
+
+That said, I think there's an opportunity in this merge for us to get
+and give a lot of skills; I've got a few notions about how that might
+be done, that I'd like to talk over with the team - maybe an informal
+IRC chat/meeting this week?
+
+I don't mind merging the mailing-lists, although if traffic increases,
+there could be quite a bit of confusion. I do suggest that we *don't*
+merge the irc channels - they're not only used for meetings, and it can
+be very good to have a separate place to do collaborative tasks.
+(Otherwise, we'll have to do everything on a piratepad.)
+
+Anyway, your Fearless Leader's 2c.
+
+Cheers!
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+</I>I agree. I also agree that we should talk about the merge in a IRC meeting.
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+Hopefully you're feeling completely recovered!
+
+&gt;<i> There's a few contact points I can add to the notification list. I'll
+</I>&gt;<i> dig those up over the next couple of weeks, and Trish, if you can
+</I>&gt;<i> shoot me on over any scraps of dangling release announcement copy to
+</I>&gt;<i> add to my scratch pad that would be nice to have as a reference too.
+</I>
+I don't have any copy, alas, but we need to get three general things
+started:
+
+1. the Mageia blog post for release
+2. a generic release announcement/press release for distribution
+3. interviews with people who use Mageia, and/or solicited reviews -
+for these, we need to get together a list of the kinds of questions
+people would like answers to.
+
+Shall we get a piratepad going and start putting a skeleton together,
+some time in the next few days?
+
+If people can post their preferred times in UTC, we can get started.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+&gt;&gt;<i> There's a few contact points I can add to the notification list. I'll
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dig those up over the next couple of weeks, and Trish, if you can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shoot me on over any scraps of dangling release announcement copy to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> add to my scratch pad that would be nice to have as a reference too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't have any copy, alas, but we need to get three general things
+</I>&gt;<i> started:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. the Mageia blog post for release
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. a generic release announcement/press release for distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. interviews with people who use Mageia, and/or solicited reviews -
+</I>&gt;<i> for these, we need to get together a list of the kinds of questions
+</I>&gt;<i> people would like answers to.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+When it comes to setting deadlines for those three works of marcomm,
+please keep in mind that i18n would be glad to get the texts a day or
+two before the release (at least for point 1., I don't know if point
+2. will get localised, and we can afford some delay for point 3. I
+guess).
+
+Regards,
+R&#233;mi / Akien
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+I mentioned I had some ideas I was working on and would present to the
+group. Well here are 2 of them
+
+1) a Planet feed for mageia users. Users blog about Mageia and
+interesting this as well, so why not have their own planet? Along with
+that is making sure all the packagers are on planet mageia - there have
+been many new ones added to the group but not added to the Planet. IMO,
+planets are a great way for people to follow along with whats going on
+in the community as a whole, who's doing what, or even to identify where
+problems may be. I think this gives a bit more of a sense of ownership
+to the average user as well. Any inputs on this? I assume this would
+have to be coordinated with the web team?
+
+2) Official titles for those who are evangelizing Mageia (Ubuntu has
+LoCo teams, Fedora has Ambassadors). We reply on our users to help get
+the word out, and they deserve something in return for this effort. I'm
+not sure how we decide what this looks like for us or how to determine
+what criteria need to be met (posting a review? submitting a news/blog
+post to a major news site?) So this idea is much less concretely formed
+and I'm open for any suggestions.
+
+The point of all of this is to work on community building. Yes, by using
+Mageia anyone is a member of the community. But adding something a bit
+more official to strive for I think only helps to strengthen the brand.
+I've worked in community building with several projects before, and the
+most successful ones always offer ways to become &quot;official&quot; members to
+regular users. I just see we are doing a great job in many areas but I
+think this one could be improved somewhat. Anyone have any other ideas,
+thoughts or comments?
+
+Thanks!
+Josh
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+
+Last year I was on a podcast for my first time, towards the end of
+September, when I went on one as a guest. It was a very general episode
+mentioning Mageia, Mandriva, Ubuntu, PC Linux OS, Gnome, KDE, and so
+on, that was rather long, with some music in it as well. It was a
+special episode that had been arranged with the hosts who I had already
+known on IRC for about two years or so. The other host wasn't in the
+episode.
+
+This was before I had joined any official Mageia teams and was thinking
+still about if I wanted to join any or not, such as marketing and QA.
+However just like now I was around on IRC a lot then and had IRC
+channels such as #mageia-uk and #mageia-social, and still got those now.
+I was also messaging quite a lot about Mageia on Identica although
+mainly to make sure that the news would show in the group (
+<A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A> ) as well, but sometimes about Mageia with
+people who were interested in it as well for example.
+
+I had also on IRC talked to one of the Mageia founders about going on
+the podcast with him at some stage a few times, and he agreed. This
+hasn't happened yet, but may happen in the future.
+
+Next time I go on this particular podcast I can go on as a proper
+official Mageia marketing team representative :), and they will have me
+on again no problem in the future :).
+
+It had been in the plans for me to be on it as a guest, for quite a long
+time before I did go on it. I have listened to all of their episodes so
+far including the test episode. However it has been quite a while since
+they last had one, because the other host is busy with other things a
+lot at the moment.
+
+I know someone from Identica who has a podcast where he mentioned Mageia
+1 in his first and second episode for example a bit. He was going to
+review it, but then Grub issues.
+
+I asked him last week if I could go on it as a guest to talk about
+Mageia and he suggested doing a pre recorded message for a 3rd of May
+episode of his podcast.
+<A HREF="http://identi.ca/notice/91893908">http://identi.ca/notice/91893908</A> <A HREF="http://identi.ca/conversation/91624243">http://identi.ca/conversation/91624243</A>
+
+More recently he also does a podcast with someone who used to be on the
+one I was a guest on, a lot for about a year or so. The one I went on as
+a guest for my very first time on a podcast.
+
+I asked him last week if I could go on his podcast and no problem. I
+mentioned adding it to our WIKI, and he suggested mentioning it being
+NSFW. Not Safe For Work as in for example contains swearing sometimes.
+
+if I am going to guest on it talking officially about Mageia I will
+request that the episode is kept SFW Safe For Work first.
+
+I guess it doesn't really matter if normally a podcast usually has
+swearing in it for example, that I may later go on as an official Mageia
+spokes person. When it comes to telling people about the episode, or in
+the case of the WIKI about the podcast in general? Other than for
+example probably mentioning something about the swearing? What are your
+thoughts about this? What do you think? This is the main reason for
+this email message to find that out.
+
+As for podcast contents when on them talking officially about Mageia,
+what do you think should be mentioned?
+
+&gt;<i>From Sebastian
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+
+Been recently thinking about it again how I shouldn't need to resend (re
+dent) Mageia news to the Mageia group on Identica, or make my own
+messages with the news instead to the group, because the Mageia account
+should be sending to it in the first place and ideally the tag as well.
+<A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A> <A HREF="http://identi.ca/mageia">http://identi.ca/mageia</A>
+<A HREF="http://identi.ca/tag/mageia">http://identi.ca/tag/mageia</A>
+
+Last year for example when mentioning the Identica issue on IRC at
+times, there was a time when I was told to contact the marketing
+mailing list about it. Something that I didn't bother to do at the time.
+
+I think that the news should go to where it is meant to on, Twitter,
+Facebook, and Identica, but also other sites such as Google+.
+
+With another program news can be sent from Diaspora which like Identica
+is a open social networking site. News can be sent from Diaspora to
+Identica, and then from Identica to Twitter. Then I think some how
+news can be sent directly from Twitter to Facebook as well. Twitter does
+not have an official way to send to Identica.
+
+The current way of sending the news has not been working that well for a
+long time now, and it would be great if this issue can be finally
+properly sorted out.
+
+I am rather used to my work around sending the news myself to Identica's
+Mageia group and tag, but this is still an issue that I think should be
+properly sorted out. Not that long ago I also sent some myself to Diaspora.
+
+There is also someone who it seems wants to promote Mageia more on
+Diaspora, but it seems that many of those messages will also go to other
+sites as well such as Identica and Twitter.
+
+In the past the Mageia account has sent to the Mageia group, but very
+rarely.
+
+Just being a bit more clear Identica has a bridge to Twitter it will
+even convert ! to #. ! is used to send to the !mageia group for
+example and # is used to send to the tag.
+
+When I re dent news I make sure it gets sent to both the group and tag.
+In the past on Identica ! would send to the tag as well, but that hasn't
+been the case since when the site got re designed last year and new
+features got added.
+
+We should also be taking all of the social networking sites seriously
+where Mageia has a presence, and so really Identica should still be
+mentioned on the site as well for example.
+
+Before Mageia 1 Identica and Twitter were both mentioned on
+<A HREF="http://magiea.org,">http://magiea.org,</A> but then Magiea 1 got released and Identica stopped
+being mentioned.
+
+I hope that this message makes enough sense, but if not I can try and
+explain better later on
+
+I would also like to become an admin of the Mageia Identica group, so
+that I can deal with any fake accounts for example.
+
+For a long time the Mageia group on Identica didn't even have a display
+picture, even though the Mageia account had a logo for quite a while.I
+had even been in communication on Identica with people who were
+wondering about that before.
+
+One day suddenly the group had the logo, and someone else had been made
+an admin of the group, I assume it was them who uploaded the logo as
+well. I contacted them about how they had been made admin, but only to
+get a reply I hadn't been expecting. I later found the Identica
+conversation that they had with @support requesting to become an admin
+of that group..
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+Trish and myself both think that we should as a team prepare a message
+that can be sent to the Mageia discuss and announce mailing lists, to
+attract new/potential contributors to Mageia's teams such as marketing
+and artwork. If you have any suggestions for this, please do send them
+to this mailing list.
+
+The message could also go on the forum some where.
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+
+A planet is a good idea, but well Mageia already has planets and in
+different languages as well, however your email reminded me about that :).
+
+I don't see a planet link on the main website though, and there should
+be one really.
+
+<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/02/18/a-new-planet-had-been-discovered/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/02/18/a-new-planet-had-been-discovered/</A>
+
+Indeed at point 2 and Oliver Burger (aka obgr_seneca) took part in a
+discussion at FOSDEM 2012 (
+<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/02/19/mageia-at-fosdem-2012/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/02/19/mageia-at-fosdem-2012/</A> ) about
+local communites and so on. I highly recommend that you watch the video
+if you haven't already seen it:
+<A HREF="http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm">http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm</A>
+
+Much more recently Oliver has also started a WIKI page about local
+communities: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities</A>
+
+I have also emailed about the IRC cloaks and @mageia.org email
+addresses. For the IRC cloaks this still needs sorting out with
+Freenode. For the @mageia.org email addresses it seems to be up to the
+leaders of the remaining teams that don't have them, to get it sorted out:
+
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120228/006610.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120228/006610.html</A>
+
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120304/006627.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120304/006627.html</A>
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+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120304/006628.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120304/006628.html</A>
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+
+On 19/03/12 20:06, Josh King wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hey all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I mentioned I had some ideas I was working on and would present to the
+</I>&gt;<i> group. Well here are 2 of them
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) a Planet feed for mageia users. Users blog about Mageia and
+</I>&gt;<i> interesting this as well, so why not have their own planet? Along with
+</I>&gt;<i> that is making sure all the packagers are on planet mageia - there
+</I>&gt;<i> have been many new ones added to the group but not added to the
+</I>&gt;<i> Planet. IMO, planets are a great way for people to follow along with
+</I>&gt;<i> whats going on in the community as a whole, who's doing what, or even
+</I>&gt;<i> to identify where problems may be. I think this gives a bit more of a
+</I>&gt;<i> sense of ownership to the average user as well. Any inputs on this? I
+</I>&gt;<i> assume this would have to be coordinated with the web team?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) Official titles for those who are evangelizing Mageia (Ubuntu has
+</I>&gt;<i> LoCo teams, Fedora has Ambassadors). We reply on our users to help get
+</I>&gt;<i> the word out, and they deserve something in return for this effort.
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure how we decide what this looks like for us or how to
+</I>&gt;<i> determine what criteria need to be met (posting a review? submitting a
+</I>&gt;<i> news/blog post to a major news site?) So this idea is much less
+</I>&gt;<i> concretely formed and I'm open for any suggestions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The point of all of this is to work on community building. Yes, by
+</I>&gt;<i> using Mageia anyone is a member of the community. But adding something
+</I>&gt;<i> a bit more official to strive for I think only helps to strengthen the
+</I>&gt;<i> brand. I've worked in community building with several projects before,
+</I>&gt;<i> and the most successful ones always offer ways to become &quot;official&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> members to regular users. I just see we are doing a great job in many
+</I>&gt;<i> areas but I think this one could be improved somewhat. Anyone have any
+</I>&gt;<i> other ideas, thoughts or comments?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+Could I ask everyone please: don't top-post replies to the list?
+
+As of today, I won't be doing it any more; I've always hated it, and
+I'm done putting up with it; I'll be trimming your replies to me
+ruthlessly and answering inline, and I'll explain why I'd like all of
+the marcom team to follow suit.
+
+What's wrong with top-posting?
+
+ * It makes messages difficult to read when the answer comes before the
+ question - this is important not only to the original poster and
+ the responder, but to everyone else on the list. Not all of us are
+ native English speakers; we have to be clear and keep the extra
+ waffle to a minimum.
+
+ * It means the top-poster is less likely to trim (this does matter.
+ There are still many people around the world stuck on dialup with
+ very low data quotas), and subsequent top-posters are then also less
+ likely to trim;
+
+ * It's going to be seen as rude on plenty of mailing lists, which is
+ absolutely not how we want people to see Mageia's marketing reps.
+
+Please post your replies in-line, underneath the point you're
+replying to, and trim any parts of the original message(s) that you
+aren't replying to.
+
+Here's more info on the topic:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/gey_stv0.htm">http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/gey_stv0.htm</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost">http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html">http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html">http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html</A>
+
+Some older than others - all useful.
+
+Cheers!
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+Patricia Fraser wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could I ask everyone please: don't top-post replies to the list?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As of today, I won't be doing it any more; I've always hated it, and
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm done putting up with it; I'll be trimming your replies to me
+</I>&gt;<i> ruthlessly and answering inline, and I'll explain why I'd like all of
+</I>&gt;<i> the marcom team to follow suit.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What's wrong with top-posting?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * It makes messages difficult to read when the answer comes before the
+</I>&gt;<i> question - this is important not only to the original poster and
+</I>&gt;<i> the responder, but to everyone else on the list. Not all of us are
+</I>&gt;<i> native English speakers; we have to be clear and keep the extra
+</I>&gt;<i> waffle to a minimum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * It means the top-poster is less likely to trim (this does matter.
+</I>&gt;<i> There are still many people around the world stuck on dialup with
+</I>&gt;<i> very low data quotas), and subsequent top-posters are then also less
+</I>&gt;<i> likely to trim;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * It's going to be seen as rude on plenty of mailing lists, which is
+</I>&gt;<i> absolutely not how we want people to see Mageia's marketing reps.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please post your replies in-line, underneath the point you're
+</I>&gt;<i> replying to, and trim any parts of the original message(s) that you
+</I>&gt;<i> aren't replying to.
+</I>
+And please, to improve readability _do_ leave an empty line between your
+contribution and any preceding or following segment, it makes it so much
+easier to pick out new parts in inline postings.
+
+John NZ
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+<PRE>On 03/20/2012 12:21 AM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Josh
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A planet is a good idea, but well Mageia already has planets and in
+</I>&gt;<i> different languages as well, however your email reminded me about that :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't see a planet link on the main website though, and there should
+</I>&gt;<i> be one really.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/02/18/a-new-planet-had-been-discovered/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/02/18/a-new-planet-had-been-discovered/</A>
+</I>
+We have planets, but most seem to be rarely posted to, giving them
+impression they're dead or not much going on with Mageia. Broadening
+that to include all devs and users (even if on a separate planet feed)
+would lead to a much livelier appearance. Other major distros combine
+languages, why shouldn't we? Who do I need to approach about making this
+happen? If nothing else, I can set it up and host it myself if it's a
+question of time/resources.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed at point 2 and Oliver Burger (aka obgr_seneca) took part in a
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion at FOSDEM 2012 (
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/02/19/mageia-at-fosdem-2012/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/02/19/mageia-at-fosdem-2012/</A> ) about
+</I>&gt;<i> local communites and so on. I highly recommend that you watch the video
+</I>&gt;<i> if you haven't already seen it:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm">http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm</A>
+</I>
+Cheers! I'll give the video a watch. I don't know that my area has
+enough mass for a LoCo style team though :-(
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Much more recently Oliver has also started a WIKI page about local
+</I>&gt;<i> communities: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have also emailed about the IRC cloaks and @mageia.org email
+</I>&gt;<i> addresses. For the IRC cloaks this still needs sorting out with
+</I>&gt;<i> Freenode. For the @mageia.org email addresses it seems to be up to the
+</I>&gt;<i> leaders of the remaining teams that don't have them, to get it sorted out:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120228/006610.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120228/006610.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120304/006627.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120304/006627.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120304/006628.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120304/006628.html</A>
+</I>
+The @mageia.org emails would be nice to have even as an alias. But I
+agree some sort of guidelines need to be established to control who gets
+them.
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+<PRE>Hi Josh
+
+In the blog post I gave you the link for some people had requested
+their blogs to be added to planets. Email Damien (aka coincoin) about
+them: dams @mageia.org
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/02/18/a-new-planet-had-been-discovered/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/02/18/a-new-planet-had-been-discovered/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+As for adding users to the planets I agree, as long as they aren't
+posting bad stuff. With Ubuntu they have only Ubuntu Community Members
+in their planet as far as I know and no one else. <A HREF="http://planet.ubuntu.com">http://planet.ubuntu.com</A>
+&gt;<i> I don't know that my area has enough mass for a LoCo style team though
+</I>&gt;<i> :-(
+</I>Of course you can start something for your local area or country, even
+if it just starts off as a IRC channel like I have done with #mageia-uk.
+As for how many people there are or aren't, that doesn't matter that
+much to begin with, just go for it and start something if you would like
+to :).
+
+There are only a few people from the UK that are interested in Mageia at
+the moment that I know about, but I expect we will start to have quite a
+few more when Mageia 2 comes out :). There are already quite a few
+people from the USA who are interested in Mageia as well that I know
+about, and quite a few of them come to my #mageia-social IRC channel.
+
+You may also have a Linux Users Group (LUG) in your area, that you can
+go to and try and gain some interest in Mageia, like I will probably be
+doing this Saturday.
+
+This Saturday I am probably going to a pub to go to a LUG for my first
+time :). It was going to be last month, but then some issues with trying
+to get there. It turned out people were turning up at different times
+any way and not that many, so there wasn't a proper meeting.
+
+I'll go to the city to the LUG to meet some other Linux users in person
+for a first time from this area, wearing one of my black FOSDEM 2011 t
+shirts, that I bought when going to my first opensource/freesoftware
+event this year FOSDEM 2012 :). I'll also have some Gnome and KDE,
+Mageia 1 Live CD's to give out from this year's FOSDEM, and I'll bring
+some other LInux stuff with me as well.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+
+P.S
+
+After sending my previous reply, and reading your email again, I
+realised that you already knew that Mageia had a planet.
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+
+Earlier Tumberlina linked me to the website for a free ebook that by the
+looks of it after downloading and opening, we should all read properly:
+<A HREF="http://www.strategyofgiving.com/">http://www.strategyofgiving.com/</A>
+
+Tumberlina's link reminded me of The Art of Community by Jono Bacon the
+Ubuntu community manager. I have known about it for a rather long time,
+and finally decided to download it earlier :).
+
+Last year when I already knew about it as well for a year or two or so,
+someone that came to #mageia-social or maybe #mageia-uk instead,
+suggested I read it. They thought it would be a good idea for anyone who
+is involved with a Linux distribution community like we are to read it.
+
+<A HREF="http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/">http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/09/18/the-art-of-community-available-for-free-download/">http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/09/18/the-art-of-community-available-for-free-download/</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/01/14/the-art-of-community/">http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/01/14/the-art-of-community/</A>
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+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<PRE>Hi guys,
+
+Hope it's ok to jump in here. This is about Mageia social marketing,
+after reading SebSebSeb's comments (and others)!
+
+
+
+To be successful, the following points should be considered:
+
+
+
+
+1) Form an intelligent, efficient social marketing strategy.
+
+And make sure everyone knows it and sticks to it!
+
+
+
+2) Have a presence on Twitter/Facebook/G+/identi.ca/Diaspora
+
+ONLY do this so people can find Mageia on these networks and be brought
+to the main Mageia site (or planet).
+
+Think about these networks as PIECES of a social network strategy. Each
+is a small but vital service to the Mageia community... but it's the
+OVERALL strategy that is important. Focusing too much on just one
+service is not good use of resources!
+
+
+
+3) Use media wisely.
+
+In all honesty, the best use of time and energy is connecting with
+magazines and high-profile blogs, building relationships with them and
+letting THEM promote Mageia to their EXISTING followers! (These
+followers will spread the news on all the various social networks. Let
+them use time and energy for this purpose.)
+
+That's the smart, professional approach and it's far more efficient than
+trying to gather followers or spit out news at random on different sites
+and networks.
+
+
+
+4) Maintain strong brand guidelines.
+
+All successful brands control their identity firmly.
+e.g: <A HREF="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/brand/identity/">https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/brand/identity/</A>
+
+Mageia has a fantastic brand (name and icon are excellent) but it must
+be protected and cared for. It is never too soon to care about this!!!
+
+For example: the identi.ca group icon is just a black cauldron, not the
+usual blue Mageia icon. This makes the group seem fake - or at least not
+part of Mageia. Little details like this dilute the brand over time.
+Someone should have noticed and cared to put this right!
+
+
+
+
+
+BRIEF SOCIAL NETWORK ANALYSIS
+
+
+Twitter, Facebook and Google+ :
+
+Tainted but necessary promotional tools. They should be used to
+broadcast news and events and gather followers, simply because they are
+mass mediums. Mageia needs exposure to a wider audience and should focus
+on these proprietory channels. These channels excel at connecting people
+to brands, quickly, directly and easily. People expect this!
+
+
+Identi.ca:
+
+isn't the same thing. The users there are more Linux/FLOSS oriented and
+they can smell promotions a mile off. It seems hard to break into the
+community in a meaningful way and the tools to do so are lacking -- the
+Android apps, for example, are frustrating and nearly useless. Identi.ca
+users will, however, promote news among themselves if they find it in
+the mainstream. We should take identi.ca seriously but not over-spend
+energy on it. The number of users is small compared to FB/G+/Twitter. A
+gentle push from time to time on identi.ca (like Seb is doing
+brilliantly) is enough to keep awareness raised.
+
+
+Disapora:
+
+Again, it's not mainstream and users are not there for official
+promotions or to &quot;follow&quot; their favourite brands. They seem very warm
+and welcoming and the users of various distros seem to get along very
+well together. It definitely merits some promotion of Mageia but will
+not bring many users to Mageia. The users it does bring will be loyal
+and enthusiastic though!
+
+
+
+
+
+Thanks for reading. Hope that helps move the conversation forward!
+
+
+loqo,
+new Mageia contributor
+
+About me: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/User:Loqo">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/User:Loqo</A>
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+<PRE>On 03/20/2012 07:10 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Josh
+</I>&gt;<i> As for adding users to the planets I agree, as long as they aren't
+</I>&gt;<i> posting bad stuff. With Ubuntu they have only Ubuntu Community Members
+</I>&gt;<i> in their planet as far as I know and no one else.
+</I>
+Agreed, some kind of code of conduct would have to be followed. Perhaps
+this is one more reason to start it as a separate entity. Leave the
+devs/official members on planet mageia and put users on planet mageia
+users. In time the two could be combined if it works well. This is
+something I'm willing to undertake and host myself unless there are
+objections to it?
+
+<A HREF="http://planet.ubuntu.com">http://planet.ubuntu.com</A>
+&gt;&gt;<i> I don't know that my area has enough mass for a LoCo style team though
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> :-(
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course you can start something for your local area or country, even
+</I>&gt;<i> if it just starts off as a IRC channel like I have done with #mageia-uk.
+</I>&gt;<i> As for how many people there are or aren't, that doesn't matter that
+</I>&gt;<i> much to begin with, just go for it and start something if you would like
+</I>&gt;<i> to :).
+</I>
+The IRC channel might be a good start
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are only a few people from the UK that are interested in Mageia at
+</I>&gt;<i> the moment that I know about, but I expect we will start to have quite a
+</I>&gt;<i> few more when Mageia 2 comes out :). There are already quite a few
+</I>&gt;<i> people from the USA who are interested in Mageia as well that I know
+</I>&gt;<i> about, and quite a few of them come to my #mageia-social IRC channel.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You may also have a Linux Users Group (LUG) in your area, that you can
+</I>&gt;<i> go to and try and gain some interest in Mageia, like I will probably be
+</I>&gt;<i> doing this Saturday.
+</I>
+Well we have a LUG technically, but it rarely meets and is usually 1-2
+people at most. It might be worth revisiting to start one up again.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This Saturday I am probably going to a pub to go to a LUG for my first
+</I>&gt;<i> time :). It was going to be last month, but then some issues with trying
+</I>&gt;<i> to get there. It turned out people were turning up at different times
+</I>&gt;<i> any way and not that many, so there wasn't a proper meeting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll go to the city to the LUG to meet some other Linux users in person
+</I>&gt;<i> for a first time from this area, wearing one of my black FOSDEM 2011 t
+</I>&gt;<i> shirts, that I bought when going to my first opensource/freesoftware
+</I>&gt;<i> event this year FOSDEM 2012 :). I'll also have some Gnome and KDE,
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1 Live CD's to give out from this year's FOSDEM, and I'll bring
+</I>&gt;<i> some other LInux stuff with me as well.
+</I>
+Awesome! Good luck!!
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+&gt;<i> Hello fellow team members
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Earlier Tumberlina linked me to the website for a free ebook that by the
+</I>&gt;<i> looks of it after downloading and opening, we should all read properly:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.strategyofgiving.com/">http://www.strategyofgiving.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Tumberlina's link reminded me of The Art of Community by Jono Bacon the
+</I>&gt;<i> Ubuntu community manager. I have known about it for a rather long time,
+</I>&gt;<i> and finally decided to download it earlier :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Last year when I already knew about it as well for a year or two or so,
+</I>&gt;<i> someone that came to #mageia-social or maybe #mageia-uk instead,
+</I>&gt;<i> suggested I read it. They thought it would be a good idea for anyone who
+</I>&gt;<i> is involved with a Linux distribution community like we are to read it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/">http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/09/18/the-art-of-community-available-for-free-download/">http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/09/18/the-art-of-community-available-for-free-download/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks! Good tips, just loaded The Art of Community on my Kindle
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+&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hope it's ok to jump in here. This is about Mageia social marketing,
+</I>&gt;<i> after reading SebSebSeb's comments (and others)!
+</I>Yep it was fine to jump in :). Also I forgot that I had recentlyish got
+you to join some of the Mageia mailing lists.
+
+I think you sent a rather good message :).
+
+When you join teams it's a good idea to introduce yourself first on the
+mailing list, why you want to be on that team and that kind of thing,
+and I think I forgot to tell you this before.
+
+You do have a rather good wiki page about yourself though :), as I
+already knew.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> About me: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/User:Loqo">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/User:Loqo</A>
+</I>
+Any way welcome to the Mageia marketing and communications team :).
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+&gt;<i> Agreed, some kind of code of conduct would have to be followed.
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps this is one more reason to start it as a separate entity.
+</I>&gt;<i> Leave the devs/official members on planet mageia and put users on
+</I>&gt;<i> planet mageia users. In time the two could be combined if it works
+</I>&gt;<i> well. This is something I'm willing to undertake and host myself
+</I>&gt;<i> unless there are objections to it?
+</I>Yep that could be quite a good idea having a separate planet for just
+users. As for a code of conduct well Mageia has already had one for
+nearly a year and half or something like that:
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/</A>
+
+Yes starting a Mageia IRC channel for your area, state, or even the
+whole of the USA could be a good idea. However at this time it would be
+like #mageia-uk I expect with not that many people using it. Plus when
+it comes to IRC at the moment I got most or all of the people from USA
+who would probably be quite interested in a channel for the USA later
+on, as users of #mageia-social.
+
+One reason I started #mageia-social when I did was, because I wanted to
+build up a general chat community type building channel, with users
+using the channel quite a lot of the time. With hardly any UK users at
+the moment, much easier to do it for the wider Mageia users community.
+
+In September 2010 and October 2010 and that kind of time, I did have
+quite a bit of interest in the UK channel, but then lost it over time.
+Trish used to even come to it sometimes and JohnR for example. When
+Mageia 2 comes out and we start gaining more users to the distro, like
+now I will be building up #mageia-social ,but I will also start building
+up #magiea-uk again as well.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well we have a LUG technically, but it rarely meets and is usually 1-2
+</I>&gt;<i> people at most. It might be worth revisiting to start one up again.
+</I>The one I am going to be going to, for some reason doesn't have a proper
+website at the moment, but I think it has had before, and so it's mainly
+a mailing list. However meeting's are meant to be on the fourth Saturday
+of each month, but going by the mailing list it seems to be only a few
+guys going to them at the moment.
+&gt;<i> Awesome! Good luck!!
+</I>
+Thanks :).
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+&gt;<i> Hi Josh
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep that could be quite a good idea having a separate planet for just
+</I>&gt;<i> users. As for a code of conduct well Mageia has already had one for
+</I>&gt;<i> nearly a year and half or something like that:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/</A>
+</I>
+Maybe I can find some time to get something up and running this weekend
+then. Just didn't want to step on any toes by diving in and doing it.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes starting a Mageia IRC channel for your area, state, or even the
+</I>&gt;<i> whole of the USA could be a good idea. However at this time it would be
+</I>&gt;<i> like #mageia-uk I expect with not that many people using it. Plus when
+</I>&gt;<i> it comes to IRC at the moment I got most or all of the people from USA
+</I>&gt;<i> who would probably be quite interested in a channel for the USA later
+</I>&gt;<i> on, as users of #mageia-social.
+</I>
+I Like #mageia-social; at some point a USA channel may be ok, but 2
+English speaking channels seems a little overkill for now IMO.
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+&gt;<i> Thanks! Good tips, just loaded The Art of Community on my Kindle
+</I>Ok awesome :)!
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+I need to. For tonight it's bed time for this guy :-)
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+</I>Ok good night.
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+ <B>loqo</B>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When you join teams it's a good idea to introduce yourself first on
+</I>&gt;<i> the mailing list, why you want to be on that team and that kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> thing, and I think I forgot to tell you this before.
+</I>
+
+
+My sincere apologies for poor (n)etiquette! I didn't want to add too
+much extra talk to the main conversation, hence using the &quot;about me&quot; link.
+
+For those too busy to read my bio, I'm &quot;loqo&quot;, a 39 year old
+professional game developer from the UK. I have plenty of useful
+experience to offer and I'm 100% committed to helping Mageia. I would
+like to do so with official blessing! ;)
+
+I run version 1 on my production machine for ALL my computing tasks and
+I will continue to do so when v2 is stable. I'm promoting Mageia
+wherever possible and I plan to start a dedicated Mageia games interest
+group. I've already started researching/planning it.
+
+Hopefully I bring cool and clear thinking to the table. I'm creative and
+logical, which is a good mix. I'm very keen to learn (where my knowledge
+is lacking) and I'm very keen to give advice (where I have knowledge).
+Please make use of me if it helps!
+
+
+loqo
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My sincere apologies for poor (n)etiquette! I didn't want to add too
+</I>&gt;<i> much extra talk to the main conversation, hence using the &quot;about me&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> link.
+</I>That email was fine :). It was a suggestion to do a introduction and I
+meant in another email to the mailing list, but you have done that now :).
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+How great to see all this energy in the team - brilliant!
+
+It's on the calendar that it's artwork's meeting tomorrow; I've just
+emailed their list to check and to check the time. If it is on, anyone
+who will be online from marcom should please attend - they're re-doing
+the install screens artwork from scratch, and hopefully there will be
+something ready for us to comment on/help with. Check their list and
+their last meeting logs for links to the older artwork that's not going
+to be used.
+
+I know it's not our meeting week but (depending on what time it is):
+
+While we're supporting them, we might also have a bit of a chat on the
+mageia-marcom channel, about what we've really *got* to do before
+release, who will do what and by when.
+
+We could also discuss seb's forthcoming podcasting career - will we
+write stuff up for him to remember to say? And the community stuff and
+the planet - what sort of timeline are we looking to work to?
+
+Don't forget also to check and USE the marcom wiki page and the sandbox
+- they're kind of out of date now, and could use a good cleanup; don't
+forget we can revert changes if we want to.
+
+If the artwork meeting is any earlier than 07:00 Australian time (20:00
+UTC), don't look for me! I'll go online at about 20:00 and see who's
+around. If you're meeting and I'm not there, run #startmeeting to get
+the meetbot going, and #endmeeting to close the logs and save them.
+
+Just FYI, all the meeting logs for all the teams are here:
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/">http://meetbot.mageia.org/</A>
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
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+Wed Mar 21 20:46:13 EST 2012
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How great to see all this energy in the team - brilliant!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's on the calendar that it's artwork's meeting tomorrow; I've just
+</I>&gt;<i> emailed their list to check and to check the time. If it is on, anyone
+</I>&gt;<i> who will be online from marcom should please attend - they're re-doing
+</I>&gt;<i> the install screens artwork from scratch, and hopefully there will be
+</I>&gt;<i> something ready for us to comment on/help with. Check their list and
+</I>&gt;<i> their last meeting logs for links to the older artwork that's not going
+</I>&gt;<i> to be used.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know it's not our meeting week but (depending on what time it is):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While we're supporting them, we might also have a bit of a chat on the
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-marcom channel, about what we've really *got* to do before
+</I>&gt;<i> release, who will do what and by when.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We could also discuss seb's forthcoming podcasting career - will we
+</I>&gt;<i> write stuff up for him to remember to say? And the community stuff and
+</I>&gt;<i> the planet - what sort of timeline are we looking to work to?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't forget also to check and USE the marcom wiki page and the sandbox
+</I>&gt;<i> - they're kind of out of date now, and could use a good cleanup; don't
+</I>&gt;<i> forget we can revert changes if we want to.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If the artwork meeting is any earlier than 07:00 Australian time (20:00
+</I>&gt;<i> UTC), don't look for me! I'll go online at about 20:00 and see who's
+</I>&gt;<i> around. If you're meeting and I'm not there, run #startmeeting to get
+</I>&gt;<i> the meetbot going, and #endmeeting to close the logs and save them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just FYI, all the meeting logs for all the teams are here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/">http://meetbot.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>
+I'd love to be able to make it. Once you find a time, please let us know
+
+Thanks!
+
+
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+seems we need to agree on a time for this evening's meeting in
+#mageia-artwork. I think 9pm UTC/GMT is a good time. At that time Max
+should be able to make it, but also Trish, and Tumberlina, and I think
+Josh as well.
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+So a meeting in about two hours and a half I guess :).
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+<PRE>On 03/21/2012 05:05 AM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How great to see all this energy in the team - brilliant!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's on the calendar that it's artwork's meeting tomorrow; I've just
+</I>&gt;<i> emailed their list to check and to check the time. If it is on, anyone
+</I>&gt;<i> who will be online from marcom should please attend - they're re-doing
+</I>&gt;<i> the install screens artwork from scratch, and hopefully there will be
+</I>&gt;<i> something ready for us to comment on/help with. Check their list and
+</I>&gt;<i> their last meeting logs for links to the older artwork that's not going
+</I>&gt;<i> to be used.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know it's not our meeting week but (depending on what time it is):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While we're supporting them, we might also have a bit of a chat on the
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-marcom channel, about what we've really *got* to do before
+</I>&gt;<i> release, who will do what and by when.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We could also discuss seb's forthcoming podcasting career - will we
+</I>&gt;<i> write stuff up for him to remember to say? And the community stuff and
+</I>&gt;<i> the planet - what sort of timeline are we looking to work to?
+</I>
+For the user's planet I have a basic mockup in place already. You can
+see it at <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org.">http://mageiapeople.org.</A> It should be ready to go by This
+weekend and could actually begin adding feeds now. The biggest challenge
+is going to be getting the word out. I'm hoping the rest of marcom can
+help with that?
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+&gt;<i> Right going by the emails to the marketing and artwork mailing lists it
+</I>&gt;<i> seems we need to agree on a time for this evening's meeting in
+</I>&gt;<i> #mageia-artwork. I think 9pm UTC/GMT is a good time. At that time Max
+</I>&gt;<i> should be able to make it, but also Trish, and Tumberlina, and I think
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So a meeting in about two hours and a half I guess :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+Hey! One I can actually make! Looking forward to it. It is in
+#mageia-artwork correct?
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+&gt;<i> Hey! One I can actually make! Looking forward to it. It is in
+</I>&gt;<i> #mageia-artwork correct?
+</I>Well that's the time I am suggesting, because that's when Max will
+probably be about. Trish may want to go to work then, but main thing is
+to have this meeting with Max I think.
+
+Also Trish could probably be there at the beginning and then leave after
+a bit. Any way she will probably be active on the mailing lists again soon.
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+At the moment none of the main artwork people seem to be about.
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+Also yep that's the channel.
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+I think that planets site looks ok as a start. Half an hour or so ago I
+was chatiting to errac in #mageia-social about adding his blog to your
+planet, and you can go and do that: <A HREF="http://blog.eracc.com">http://blog.eracc.com</A>
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+There's also another guy who will probably want his blog mentioned
+there, but it seems he will contact me about that first.
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+&gt;<i> Hi Josh
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that planets site looks ok as a start. Half an hour or so ago I
+</I>&gt;<i> was chatiting to errac in #mageia-social about adding his blog to your
+</I>&gt;<i> planet, and you can go and do that: <A HREF="http://blog.eracc.com">http://blog.eracc.com</A>
+</I>Yeah I made it with the defaults as with the Planet Mageia blog but it
+seems a bit plain. Design isn't my strong suit so it will take some time
+to get it looking better. And His blog has been added now.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's also another guy who will probably want his blog mentioned
+</I>&gt;<i> there, but it seems he will contact me about that first.
+</I>
+Anyone wanting theirs added can also email <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">admin at mageiapeople.org</A> and I
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+ <B>Josh King (dotmil)</B>
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+I have a basic install of moonmoon set up and running on
+<A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org.">http://mageiapeople.org.</A> I plan to do some design work this weekend so
+it's not so, well, boring looking.
+
+I would appreciate any inputs on design/look of the site or even a sweet
+template for moonmoon. Also, I *really* need help getting the word out
+that people can have their blogs added, even if the blog isn't 100%
+Mageia postings. We like to see the people behind the blogs as well.
+
+To have a blog added, the only requirements are that they must follow
+the Code of Conduct and send the URL to <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">admin at mageiapeople.org</A>, then
+I'll get it added. Once it's up and running more I'd also like a second
+person to act as co-administrator with me. I want this to be a community
+project, not run by a dictator.
+
+Any other thoughts, comments, or suggestions are welcome!
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+Thanks!
+Josh
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Josh
+
+I was wondering about this before, and your message has reminded me.
+You could add my Identica to it :) some how: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/sebsebseb">http://identi.ca/sebsebseb</A>
+So that it will show my new messages on your site :). However with
+Identica it's about context when getting replies and people should be
+able to get onto the link for that easily as well in that case.
+
+Any way Identica has RSS feeds for example.
+
+I also think it's a very good idea to add the Identica Mageia group as
+well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+
+
+I suggest sending a email to the Mageia discuss mailing list about your
+users planet website, and also starting a thread on the forum about it.
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+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<PRE>On 03/22/2012 08:07 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Josh
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was wondering about this before, and your message has reminded me. You
+</I>&gt;<i> could add my Identica to it :) some how: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/sebsebseb">http://identi.ca/sebsebseb</A> So
+</I>&gt;<i> that it will show my new messages on your site :). However with Identica
+</I>&gt;<i> it's about context when getting replies and people should be able to get
+</I>&gt;<i> onto the link for that easily as well in that case.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any way Identica has RSS feeds for example.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I also think it's a very good idea to add the Identica Mageia group as
+</I>&gt;<i> well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+</I>
+Both have been added. I will likely post to the mailing list and forum,
+just want to get the look down the way I want it a little more. BTW, is
+there someplace that has a copy of the official Logo that is in svg or
+at least resizable format?
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+Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+(<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+
+It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+Facebook, etc.
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+Warmest regards,
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+<PRE>Ok thanks for adding my Identica and the Mageia group, however I just
+sent a dent/message quite recently and it's not appearing on
+<A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> yet. Any idea why that is?
+
+Also in the future may want to have both blogs and microblogging, but a
+bit seperate. Since if there's to much microblogging the blog posts
+will disappear much quicker.
+
+People (5) may want to change that to something such as RSS's, because
+for example someone may end up on more than one of those, well that
+already happens when I send to the group for example.
+
+Also can you get it saying sebsebseb instead of Anoymous for my Identica?
+
+Also maybe there's a way for you to get it to link to context as well
+for dents, for example:
+<A HREF="http://identi.ca/conversation/91825979#notice-92107063">http://identi.ca/conversation/91825979#notice-92107063</A>
+
+Instead of having the message without the links as the heading, maybe it
+would be better to link to the notice for example:
+<A HREF="http://identi.ca/notice/92107063">http://identi.ca/notice/92107063</A>
+
+Decided to send this anyway, but since you turned up in #mageia-social
+rather recently, we can chat about it there instead :).
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+&gt;<i> Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+</I>&gt;<i> Facebook, etc.
+</I>
+The Mageia group should be there as well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+
+The Mageia account <A HREF="http://identi.ca/mageia">http://identi.ca/mageia</A> should always send the news
+to the group as well! Using !Mageia or with the lower cased letter
+!mageia instead, and this is an issue I have wanted sorted out for over
+a year, but it still hasn't been solved.
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+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+&gt;<i> Loqo typed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Facebook, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The Mageia group should be there as well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The Mageia account <A HREF="http://identi.ca/mageia">http://identi.ca/mageia</A> should always send the news
+</I>&gt;<i> to the group as well! Using !Mageia or with the lower cased letter
+</I>&gt;<i> !mageia instead, and this is an issue I have wanted sorted out for over
+</I>&gt;<i> a year, but it still hasn't been solved.
+</I>
+Maybe open these as a bug request with the web team? Thats what I've
+done in the past
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+&gt;<i> On 03/22/2012 09:41 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Loqo typed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Facebook, etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The Mageia group should be there as well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The Mageia account <A HREF="http://identi.ca/mageia">http://identi.ca/mageia</A> should always send the news
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to the group as well! Using !Mageia or with the lower cased letter
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> !mageia instead, and this is an issue I have wanted sorted out for over
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a year, but it still hasn't been solved.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe open these as a bug request with the web team? Thats what I've
+</I>&gt;<i> done in the past
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>I have been on the webteam mailing list for quite awhile, but not sent
+an email there yet, as of typing, but this will be my first.
+
+When I mentioned the Identica issue on IRC before last year, I was
+suggested to go to the marketing team mailing list or web team. Already
+done so with the marketing and that's not got the issue solved, but
+hopefully sending this email to the webteam mailing list will help.
+
+More information regarding Mageia and social networking sites:
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+&gt;<i> BTW, is there someplace that has a copy of the official Logo that is
+</I>&gt;<i> in svg or at least resizable format?
+</I>
+I forgot to reply to that earlier: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/media/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/media/</A>
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+&gt;<i> Hi All,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a basic install of moonmoon set up and running on
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org.">http://mageiapeople.org.</A> I plan to do some design work this weekend so
+</I>&gt;<i> it's not so, well, boring looking.
+</I>What is its advantage over planet.mageia.org?
+I also fail to see a reason for putting things like that up outside the
+Mageia infrastructure.
+Why not discuss it in advance? You are not working in a vacuum, there is
+a project arround you, isn't there?
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+&gt;<i> What is its advantage over planet.mageia.org?
+</I>
++1
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+&gt;<i> I also fail to see a reason for putting things like that up outside the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia infrastructure.
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not discuss it in advance? You are not working in a vacuum, there is a
+</I>&gt;<i> project arround you, isn't there?
+</I>
+There's nothing against experiments outside of the infrastructure, and
+building first to demonstrate/discuss later. But the point here is,
+what's the difference/goal from planet.mageia.org (that could
+certainly be improved and linked from better places, but still).
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+&gt;<i> Am 23.03.2012 01:51, schrieb Josh King (dotmil):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi All,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have a basic install of moonmoon set up and running on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org.">http://mageiapeople.org.</A> I plan to do some design work this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; weekend so it's not so, well, boring looking.
+</I>&gt;<i> What is its advantage over planet.mageia.org?
+</I>&gt;<i> I also fail to see a reason for putting things like that up outside
+</I>&gt;<i> the Mageia infrastructure.
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not discuss it in advance? You are not working in a vacuum,
+</I>&gt;<i> there is a project arround you, isn't there?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
++1. I have to ask - did you guys discuss this with anyone but
+yourselves? Email the council list, email the discuss list with a
+what-do-people-think?
+
+Aside from general courtesy, the Mageia name belongs to the
+community, and there are some rules about how we use it.
+
+Before the second planet goes any further, how about sending an email
+to the discuss list, and asking what people think? And contacting
+some other council members for feedback on the general idea?
+
+Cheers,
+
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 23.03.2012 01:51, schrieb Josh King (dotmil):
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi All,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have a basic install of moonmoon set up and running on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org.">http://mageiapeople.org.</A> I plan to do some design work this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> weekend so it's not so, well, boring looking.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is its advantage over planet.mageia.org?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I also fail to see a reason for putting things like that up outside
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the Mageia infrastructure.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why not discuss it in advance? You are not working in a vacuum,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there is a project arround you, isn't there?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1. I have to ask - did you guys discuss this with anyone but
+</I>&gt;<i> yourselves? Email the council list, email the discuss list with a
+</I>&gt;<i> what-do-people-think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Aside from general courtesy, the Mageia name belongs to the
+</I>&gt;<i> community, and there are some rules about how we use it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Before the second planet goes any further, how about sending an email
+</I>&gt;<i> to the discuss list, and asking what people think? And contacting
+</I>&gt;<i> some other council members for feedback on the general idea?
+</I>
+Ok, I'll try to answer all of these in one shot. This idea was first
+mentioned in my original email about it to this list and expounded upon
+in subsequent messages:
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-marketing/2012-March/000649.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-marketing/2012-March/000649.html</A>
+
+The idea is basically a planet for users of Mageia. These would be blog
+feeds and have to comply with the code of conduct of course. This idea
+gives people a chance to see there are real people behind Magia and is
+in line with what some other distros do (see Ubuntu for one). The
+official planet is designed for official team members/developers of
+Magia. Different groups of people, different reasons for being. It's
+conceived simply as a gateway to get users involved and looking to
+contribute further to Mageia as well as provide some entertainment. It's
+not in any way intended or designed to replace the official planet site
+(which yes suffers from neglect badly)
+
+ Putting it up on my own server was done simply out of convenience; it
+could easily be moved to an official Mageia server if so desired.
+
+As it currently stands it has been done more as a proof of concept than
+anything else. We (sebsebseb, myself, logo, etc.) were discussing it on
+IRC last night and had already agreed the next step was to post to the
+discuss list and possibly the forum as well for feedback and comment. If
+no one wants it, it's a simple rm -rf on my server and it's done. It's
+on the web yes, but it's far from considered &quot;live&quot; by any means - the
+only traffic so far has been from myself and others helping with it.
+
+I apologize if bringing this up on this list was incorrect. My thoughts
+were that this was community building/marketing so naturally this was
+the place to start. I'm more than happy to consult with any other
+council members, especially any ones in particular who may be
+interested. My plan isn't to develop this as a singular monument to
+myself, but to add it as part of furthering Mageia as a whole. I'm
+simply willing/able to do it and didn't think I was doing anything I
+haven't done inside other OSS projects. So again I apologize if any
+incorrect impressions were given. I would suggest this possibly become
+some sort of guideline for future cases. The chances of someone single
+handedly starting up &quot;ilovemageia.com/.org/.net&quot; increase as Mageia's
+brand grows. Personally I think such fan sites, etc. would be good
+things to have happen but that's just my opinion.
+
+I hope this covered the questions and I'm more than happy to answer any
+others. Also, any comments or guidance from elected team members are
+welcome as well; off list if this is clogging up other marketing
+business works for me as well. I'm holding off on any further actions
+until everyone who wishes has a chance to speak on this. Then, if agreed
+I will proceed with taking it up with the others mentioned.
+
+Thanks!
+Josh
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+&gt;<i> Loqo typed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Facebook, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The Mageia group should be there as well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+</I>
+I wouldn't add google+, identi.ca or twitter rss feeds on planet. Planet
+is for blogs, not for microblogging sites. Adding g+ or identi.ca on
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+&gt;<i> I wouldn't add google+, identi.ca or twitter rss feeds on planet. Planet
+</I>&gt;<i> is for blogs, not for microblogging sites. Adding g+ or identi.ca on
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+</I>Especially since I mostly post things on G+, that already is on the blog.
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/23 nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I wouldn't add google+, identi.ca or twitter rss feeds on planet. Planet
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is for blogs, not for microblogging sites. Adding g+ or identi.ca on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> planet will only polute with duplicate links to the same content.
+</I>&gt;<i> Especially since I mostly post things on G+, that already is on the blog.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I> I agree - the planet should be kept for big posts.
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+<PRE>Le 23/03/2012 18:17, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Loqo typed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Facebook, etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The Mageia group should be there as well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wouldn't add google+, identi.ca or twitter rss feeds on planet. Planet
+</I>&gt;<i> is for blogs, not for microblogging sites. Adding g+ or identi.ca on
+</I>&gt;<i> planet will only polute with duplicate links to the same content.
+</I>
+I agreed with Nicolas.
+Do not mix social media and planet!
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+
+Ok got to start my reply some where, first of all as rda put it's ok to
+set up things outside the <A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A> website for Mageia.
+
+However I agree with rda certain things may be good to set up outside
+the <A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A> website as a test, and then later become part of
+the official project website.
+
+Being clear Josh's idea is to have a separate planet hosted on
+<A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> where many users of Mageia can have their blogs
+being mentioned, and possibly microblogging as well later on in a
+separate section for example. This planet would/will become rather
+general, since people won't always be blogging or microblogging about
+Mageia.
+
+For blogs of Mageia developers and people like that
+<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> makes perfect sense. The idea was never to
+compete against <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> or try to, the idea was to just
+provide a different type of planet as well aimed at the Mageia users
+community, people who are just users of the distribution specifically,
+but contributors could also go on this planet as well.
+
+At the moment it's just a new idea that is being tested out on
+<A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> that may become a proper planet for Mageia users
+with many blogs, and possibly some microblogging as well in a separate
+section for example.
+
+I also suggested that Josh took his idea to the Mageia discuss mailing
+list and the forum.
+
+Josh wondered before who ran <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> so I checked on
+IRC by chatting to Coincoin/Damien that it was indeed him, and got the
+email address, and told Josh it in a previous email to this mailing
+list, thinking he would email Coincoin/Damien about it.
+
+Josh typed:
+&gt;<i> The chances of someone single handedly starting up
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;ilovemageia.com/.org/.net&quot; increase as Mageia's brand grows.
+</I>&gt;<i> Personally I think such fan sites, etc. would be good things to have
+</I>&gt;<i> happen but that's just my opinion.
+</I>
+I agree, and I think the more websites there are mentioning Mageia in a
+positive way the better for the project.
+
+I 100% agree that those kind of sites will be rather good to have for
+the Mageia project usually.
+
+I have a prime example for when a unofficial website works very well for
+the project as a whole: <A HREF="http://omgubuntu.co.uk">http://omgubuntu.co.uk</A> the most popular news and
+such website for the Ubuntu project (or so I believe any way), and by a
+long way. It is also an unofficial site, it is not made as part of the
+Ubuntu Community or by Canonical. Really it was just started by a guy
+who decided to start the site and so on from there. However since it's
+been so popular for years, official Ubuntu Community Members have
+sometimes guest posted on it, such as Jono Bacon the community manager
+who is also a Canonical employee and Jorge Castro from his community
+team at Canonical, and Daniel Holbach who I think may also be from it,
+and that is a Ubuntu Community Member.
+
+Official Ubuntu Community Members as far as I know will still post on
+<A HREF="http://omgubuntu.co.uk">http://omgubuntu.co.uk</A> sometimes as well.
+
+They have also had people such as Seif Lofty the Zeitgeist developer
+blogging on it for example. I think he is a Ubuntu Community Member as
+well, but not sure.
+
+So yes the website is unofficial, but it works very much so for
+Canonical's advantage, and the Ubuntu Community as a whole, however
+let's be clear about that again it's not an official Canonical or Ubuntu
+Community website. The official Ubuntu blogs or kind of thing, would be
+the ones from Ubuntu Community Members shown in their planet:
+<A HREF="http://planet.ubuntu.com">http://planet.ubuntu.com</A>
+
+Do Ubuntu have a planet for users of the distro? Well no not that I know
+of, but they don't really need to either, because there are loads of
+blogs out there that tend to mention it, and the most popular ones are
+already known about by many people.
+
+Josh's idea of having a separate planet for just users
+<A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> whilst still also having the more official
+planet <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> as well, I think as a community building
+minded person is an absolutely great idea.
+
+Yes ok so if it's on <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> it won't be seen as being
+that official probably, but that's good for such a planet with loads of
+blogs that will be mentioning quite a lot of other stuff at times as
+well, not just Mageia.
+
+The blogs that are mentioned on <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> should be
+mainly mentioning Mageia, but for Josh's <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> idea
+things will be much more general.
+
+As members of the marketing team it is our responsibility to help gain
+interest in the Mageia project, and yes to some extent Josh's
+<A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> idea will help to do this.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<PRE>On 23/03/12 17:17, nicolas vigier wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Loqo typed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Facebook, etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The Mageia group should be there as well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wouldn't add google+, identi.ca or twitter rss feeds on planet. Planet
+</I>&gt;<i> is for blogs, not for microblogging sites. Adding g+ or identi.ca on
+</I>&gt;<i> planet will only polute with duplicate links to the same content.
+</I>There has been a misunderstanding and from more than one person it seems
+as well. As was put in the email, the Mageia on the web section, that's
+down the right hand side, where currently the Mageia website, blog, and
+Mageia on Twitter and Facebook are linked to.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+
+P.S
+
+It's a good idea to have the first letter of a name capitalised usually,
+at the moment the name in the Twitter link is lower cased and the name
+in the Facebook link as well on the planet.
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+<PRE>On 23/03/12 10:56, loqo wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+</I>&gt;<i> Facebook, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+--------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+To clarify:
+
+There are already links to Facebook/Twitter/etc. and we should add a
+*link* to G+ there. No feeds.
+Visitors should be able to find all of the official social media from
+the planet.
+
+--------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+
+
+I have additional views. Please consider them!
+
+
+WHY DOES SOCIAL MEDIA MATTER?
+
+Blogs are often &quot;vanity&quot; or &quot;hobby&quot; projects and update quite slowly.
+Even once a day is slow. We're not in the 90's any more. In general,
+people will read blogs as a one-off reference or source of information.
+
+As a trend, people don't revisit blogs often, because they don't expect
+anything to change.
+
+FB/G+/Twitter/identi.ca/Diaspora are very busy and update often, so
+revisiting regularly becomes a habit for users. In this way, the social
+sites are more popular and &quot;sticky&quot; than any blog. For marketing
+purposes we should always remember this! These sites are more useful
+than blogs.
+
+Nearly all big companies are spending time, energy and money on social
+media. They know they need a presence on these sites. They have good
+reason for this. Exposure. Being noticed and growing the brand. These
+companies are not spending much time and money on blogs because blogs
+don't bring them more customers. It's worth noticing this fact!
+
+
+SMART USE OF ENERGY
+
+If time and energy (and money) are valuable, we should use them
+efficiently. We should: Use social media for sharing news and marketing.
+Post news on the official Mageia blog and post links to it on all social
+media.
+
+Social media posts are more likely to be shared. It's easier for users.
+It spreads the news faster, with less work for us!
+
+Use any other blogs for long articles or personal opinions/ off topic
+articles. People's blogs are wonderful, vital parts of the community but
+should not be treated as part of the official brand. Let's not lose
+track of which things are &quot;Mageia brand&quot; and which are &quot;community
+contributions&quot;.
+
+
+FORUMS
+
+We REALLY should use the forums as much as possible because they seem
+almost dead to newcomers. Why are we using mailing lists when we can
+have sections/threads in the forums? There is a lot more we can do on
+the forums. And we should be checking in daily! ;)
+
+Did you visit the forum today?
+
+Most people coming to Mageia will visit the forums before they visit IRC
+or anyone's blogs. The forums are a top-link on the main Mageia website
+and should be treated as important. The planet should be linked there
+too and the planet needs to give social media more importance!
+
+The planet should be a hub to all social media. Blogs are just one type.
+
+
+BOTTOM LINE
+
+Please take social media seriously. Please don't spend *too* much time
+on blogs. Please spend more time on the forums guys!
+
+
+Thank you for your time.
+
+loqo
+
+
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+
+I apologise for my direct tone. I'm keen to help and not get stuck in
+dialogue loops or semantics.
+
+I'm nearly 40 and in my career I have worked with M&amp;C Saachi, MTV,
+Reebok, Nintendo, Sony and others. I have designed and sold advertising.
+I've worked with brands. I've made a couple of Facebook games, among
+others. I know this territory and my advice is based on years of useful
+experience.
+
+I'm also glad to listen to suggestions, criticism or pointers. I'm down
+to earth and friendly too. I'm ONLY here to help!
+
+Warmest regards,
+loqo
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+ <B>R&#233;mi Verschelde</B>
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+<PRE>2012/3/20 Josh King &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 03/20/2012 12:21 AM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have also emailed about the IRC cloaks and @mageia.org email
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> addresses. For the IRC cloaks this still needs sorting out with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Freenode. For the @mageia.org email addresses it seems to be up to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> leaders of the remaining teams that don't have them, to get it sorted out:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The @mageia.org emails would be nice to have even as an alias. But I agree
+</I>&gt;<i> some sort of guidelines need to be established to control who gets them.
+</I>
+Just to make it clear: all @mageia.org emails are aliases. I have one
+as i18n deputy leader, and it redirects to the email I registered on
+identity.mageia.org.
+
+It is up to each team to decide who should get aliases, so this is a
+point that could be raised in the next marcom meeting.
+
+Regards,
+R&#233;mi
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+<PRE>On 23 March 2012 19:54, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok got to start my reply some where, first of all as rda put it's ok to set
+</I>&gt;<i> up things outside the <A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A> website for Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However I agree with rda certain things may be good to set up outside the
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A> website as a test, and then later become part of the
+</I>&gt;<i> official project website.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Being clear Josh's idea is to have a separate planet hosted on
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> where many users of Mageia can have their blogs
+</I>&gt;<i> being mentioned, and possibly microblogging as well later on in a separate
+</I>&gt;<i> section for example. &#160;This planet would/will become rather general, since
+</I>&gt;<i> people won't always be blogging or microblogging about Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For blogs of Mageia developers and people like that <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> makes perfect sense. &#160;The idea was never to compete against
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> or try to, the idea was to just provide a different
+</I>&gt;<i> type of planet as well aimed at the Mageia users community, people who are
+</I>&gt;<i> just users of the distribution specifically, but contributors could also go
+</I>&gt;<i> on this planet as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At the moment it's just a new idea that is being tested out on
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> that may become a proper planet for Mageia users
+</I>&gt;<i> with many blogs, and possibly some microblogging as well in a separate
+</I>&gt;<i> section for example.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I also suggested that Josh took his idea to the Mageia discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> and the forum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh wondered before who ran <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> so I checked on IRC by
+</I>&gt;<i> chatting to Coincoin/Damien that it was indeed him, and got the email
+</I>&gt;<i> address, and told Josh it in a previous email to this mailing list, thinking
+</I>&gt;<i> he would email Coincoin/Damien about it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh typed:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The chances of someone single handedly starting up
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;ilovemageia.com/.org/.net&quot; increase as Mageia's brand grows. Personally I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> think such fan sites, etc. would be good things to have happen but that's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just my opinion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree, and I think the more websites there are mentioning Mageia in a
+</I>&gt;<i> positive way the better for the project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I 100% agree that those kind of sites will be rather good to have for the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia project usually.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a prime example for when a unofficial website works very well for the
+</I>&gt;<i> project as a whole: <A HREF="http://omgubuntu.co.uk">http://omgubuntu.co.uk</A> the most popular news and such
+</I>&gt;<i> website for the Ubuntu project (or so I believe any way), and by a long way.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;It is also an unofficial site, it is not made as part of the Ubuntu
+</I>&gt;<i> Community or by Canonical. &#160;Really it was just started by a guy who decided
+</I>&gt;<i> to start the site and so on from there. However since it's been so popular
+</I>&gt;<i> for years, official Ubuntu Community Members have sometimes guest posted on
+</I>&gt;<i> it, such as Jono Bacon the community manager who is also a Canonical
+</I>&gt;<i> employee and Jorge Castro from his community team at Canonical, and Daniel
+</I>&gt;<i> Holbach who I think may also be from it, and that is a Ubuntu Community
+</I>&gt;<i> Member.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Official Ubuntu Community Members as far as I know will still post on
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://omgubuntu.co.uk">http://omgubuntu.co.uk</A> sometimes as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> They have also had people such as Seif Lofty the Zeitgeist developer
+</I>&gt;<i> blogging on it for example. I think he is a Ubuntu Community Member as well,
+</I>&gt;<i> but not sure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So yes the website is unofficial, but it works very much so for Canonical's
+</I>&gt;<i> advantage, and the Ubuntu Community as a whole, however let's be clear about
+</I>&gt;<i> that again it's not an official Canonical or Ubuntu Community website. The
+</I>&gt;<i> official Ubuntu blogs or kind of thing, would be the ones from Ubuntu
+</I>&gt;<i> Community Members shown in their planet: <A HREF="http://planet.ubuntu.com">http://planet.ubuntu.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do Ubuntu have a planet for users of the distro? Well no not that I know of,
+</I>&gt;<i> but they don't really need to either, because there are loads of blogs out
+</I>&gt;<i> there that tend to mention it, and the most popular ones are already known
+</I>&gt;<i> about by many people.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh's idea of having a separate planet for just users
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> whilst still also having the more official planet
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> as well, I think as a community building minded
+</I>&gt;<i> person is an absolutely great idea.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes ok so if it's on <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> it won't be seen as being that
+</I>&gt;<i> official probably, but that's good for such a planet with loads of blogs
+</I>&gt;<i> that will be mentioning quite a lot of other stuff at times as well, not
+</I>&gt;<i> just Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The blogs that are mentioned on <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> should be mainly
+</I>&gt;<i> mentioning Mageia, but for Josh's <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> idea things will
+</I>&gt;<i> be much more general.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As members of the marketing team it is our responsibility to help gain
+</I>&gt;<i> interest in the Mageia project, and yes to some extent Josh's
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> idea will help to do this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
+Can you add my blogspot on here or is it not the place.
+
+<A HREF="http://schultzslog.blogspot.co.uk/">http://schultzslog.blogspot.co.uk/</A>
+
+Thanks.
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+<PRE>Alright people, it's time to start the discussion on the new installer
+images (or more accurately, continue from last week's meeting).
+A good jumping off point would be the texts.
+We have 5 texts, but some people mostly me) are unhappy with them. I think
+that there should be more of an emphasis on the unique qualities of Mageia
+rather than pointing out all of the things that we do just like any other
+Linux distro.
+The current texts are:
+
+1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of
+ users, developers and advocates from around the world.
+
+2. Free software means choice: KDE, GNOME, LXDE or other desktops;
+ Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution
+ for mail...
+
+3. Mageia covers your graphics, your video creation and editing needs
+ with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+
+4. Mageia's Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up
+ your hardware, software and more, all in one place.
+
+5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash,
+ KMyMoney and others cover word processing, spreadsheets,
+ presentations and finance.
+
+So that means that I'm happy with 1 and 4, but less happy with the other
+three.
+Maybe if it was the other way around: 3 texts describing the uniqueness of
+Mageia and 2 describing other things. Or better yet, 4 or 5 texts
+describing the uniqueness of Mageia, but I know that that is less likely
+and less easy.
+
+Once we have settled on the texts (or even as we thrash them out) we should
+discuss ideas of what the images should be.
+Some rules:
+
+ - There should be a common theme/look to all images.
+ - We need to make sure that we don't change or distort any group/compan
+ logos, including our own.
+ - The texts need to be clear and visible.
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+&gt;<i> We have 5 texts, but some people mostly me) are unhappy with them. I
+</I>&gt;<i> think that there should be more of an emphasis on the unique qualities
+</I>&gt;<i> of Mageia rather than pointing out all of the things that we do just
+</I>&gt;<i> like any other Linux distro.
+</I>&gt;<i> The current texts are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of
+</I>&gt;<i> users, developers and advocates from around the world.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Free software means choice: KDE, GNOME, LXDE or other desktops;
+</I>&gt;<i> Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution
+</I>&gt;<i> for mail...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Mageia covers your graphics, your video creation and editing needs
+</I>&gt;<i> with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. Mageia's Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up
+</I>&gt;<i> your hardware, software and more, all in one place.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash,
+</I>&gt;<i> KMyMoney and others cover word processing, spreadsheets,
+</I>&gt;<i> presentations and finance.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So that means that I'm happy with 1 and 4, but less happy with the
+</I>&gt;<i> other three.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe if it was the other way around: 3 texts describing the
+</I>&gt;<i> uniqueness of Mageia and 2 describing other things. Or better yet, 4
+</I>&gt;<i> or 5 texts describing the uniqueness of Mageia, but I know that that
+</I>&gt;<i> is less likely and less easy.
+</I>
+I agree with Max, it would be a good idea to focus more in those
+installer text's on what makes Mageia different from lots of other
+distro's. 1 and 4 are good, but I know with some effort from many of us
+as a team we could have something much better for the others.
+
+I went to my first LUG meeting yesterday that was fun :). I talked to
+some people about Mageia, someone in particular and he asked me what
+made Mageia different from other distro's and that kind of thing. He
+was also interested in what software it could run, that it could run
+Eclipse I think it was for example. I told him that it could, and I
+basically said something about how most distro's run most of the same
+kind of software, because of something called upstream, who make the
+original projects such as Gnome, KDE, and Firefox.
+
+Any way he also wondered what made Mageia unique why it should be used
+over other distro's and that kind of thing. I told him how it was a 100%
+community distro with a non profit organisation behind it, with everyone
+being a volunteer. I also explained that it was a fork of Mandriva and
+told him what a fork is. When it came to the distro itself and what
+made it unique over many other distro's I didn't really have much to say
+at all, other than that it has a nice graphical control centre.
+
+I gave away most of the Mageia 1 CD's yesterday to 7 or so people :),
+that I came back with from FOSDEM 2012 at the LUG. I gave most people
+two CD's KDE and Gnome. One or two or so people only got a KDE CD,
+because I had more of those. The last Gnome CD went to a person who
+would have rather had Gnome than KDE, but he got given a KDE as well.
+Even gave a Gnome and a KDE away to the taxi driver who took me there,
+we were talking about stuff, and he was saying how he had some Windows
+issues and so on. Three KDE CD's left that I would like to give away to
+other people at the LUG hopefully. Keeping two KDE's and Gnome's for
+myself that I came back with from FOSDEM 2012 :).
+
+Any way going back to installer slide show images, let's take Ubuntu for
+example again. With Ubuntu they tell some of the users what software can
+be run in the slide show, such as Firefox and LibreOffice, but they also
+mention what is special to Ubuntu, for example the free cloud space on
+Ubuntu One, and the software centre, and music store.
+
+ From a end user point of view, really what does make Mageia special
+when compared to many other distro's? Well yes the control centre, but
+really is there anything else as well?
+
+The control centre I think is rather good and most distro's lack this
+kind of thing, but Mandriva has the control centre of course as well,
+and all of the distro's based on it I think have it
+
+There's a distro called Unity Linux which has nothing to do with
+Canonical's/Ubuntu's Unity. It's based on Mandriva and is more of a
+distribution builder distro with many other distributions based on it,
+but I assume they all have the control centre as well for example.
+
+On the subject of being unique I recently remembered a little while ago,
+how in the past there was something about how in the future Mageia
+would do something that would make it rather unique over other distro's.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+
+Looking at the texts from a marketing point of view, we need two things:
+
+a) what is Mageia like that's *different* from everyone else
+
+and
+
+b) what about Mageia is going to be comfortable for *new* users.
+
+So, interesting and reassuring, both at once.
+
+With me so far?
+
+For a), we have:
+
+&gt;<i> 1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of
+</I>&gt;<i> users, developers and advocates from around the world.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> 4. Mageia's Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up
+</I>&gt;<i> your hardware, software and more, all in one place.
+</I>
+for b), we have:
+
+&gt;<i> 2. Free software means choice: KDE, GNOME, LXDE or other desktops;
+</I>&gt;<i> Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution
+</I>&gt;<i> for mail...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Mageia covers your graphics, your video creation and editing needs
+</I>&gt;<i> with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash,
+</I>&gt;<i> KMyMoney and others cover word processing, spreadsheets,
+</I>&gt;<i> presentations and finance.
+</I>
+It's probably a good idea to remember the texts we had for Mageia 1:
+
+&gt;<i> * screen 1 : &quot;Thank you for testing Mageia Alpha
+</I>&gt;<i> 2&quot; (s/testing/using/ for finale)
+</I>&gt;<i> * screen 2 : &quot;Please give us your impressions - we need your input
+</I>&gt;<i> to improve on this distribution&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> * screen 3 : &quot;We are a great, international community and we will
+</I>&gt;<i> welcome you when you join us!&quot;
+</I>
+I have an idea we cleaned those up for the final, and there was
+something in there about thanks for trying Mageia. I haven't seen the
+installer for quite a while...
+
+So: I think we're past the place where we thank people for giving us a
+try; but we'll never be past the place where we want to say, welcome,
+please join us if you aren't already here in the community. That's
+partly covered in #1.
+
+What about if in #1.5, we say something more about people joining the
+community? and then we could condense 2, 3 and 5 into two points, and
+we'd have our three.
+
+I'm looking for people to actually write something, and post it back
+to the list for us to consider and refine.
+
+No more than 20 words per installer screen - less if you can manage it!
+
+I'd like to have something to show Council at the meeting, which is in
+about 24 hours, so please get started!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+Mon Mar 26 08:50:55 EST 2012
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+
+&gt;<i> I apologise for my direct tone. I'm keen to help and not get stuck in
+</I>&gt;<i> dialogue loops or semantics.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm nearly 40 and in my career I have worked with M&amp;C Saachi, MTV,
+</I>&gt;<i> Reebok, Nintendo, Sony and others. I have designed and sold
+</I>&gt;<i> advertising. I've worked with brands. I've made a couple of Facebook
+</I>&gt;<i> games, among others. I know this territory and my advice is based on
+</I>&gt;<i> years of useful experience.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm also glad to listen to suggestions, criticism or pointers. I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> down to earth and friendly too. I'm ONLY here to help!
+</I>
+
+Thanks for the introduction, and I hope you'll stick with us; we've got
+some serious writing to do in the next week or so, and we could use
+your help!
+
+What timezone are you in? I'd like us to converge on a piratepad this
+week and do some collaborative writing. I'm in Australia, Bradley is in
+the US, Seb is in the UK and Dale is in Canada... but I can work with
+whatever suits everyone else.
+
+We have three texts we must produce (whatever else we're doing):
+
+1. blog post for the release announcement
+1.a website front page for the release day
+2. press release for the announcement (to go to mags, linux sites etc)
+3. something else, but I'll have to look it up (no breakfast yet.
+
+I really appreciate all the planeting and social media stuff - very
+important and must get cleaned up shortly - but these texts are on a
+deadline, so we have to please concentrate on them!
+
+Cheers,
+
+Trish.
+
+
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+<PRE>On 25/03/12 23:07, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What timezone are you in? I'd like us to converge on a piratepad this
+</I>&gt;<i> week and do some collaborative writing. I'm in Australia, Bradley is in
+</I>&gt;<i> the US, Seb is in the UK and Dale is in Canada... but I can work with
+</I>&gt;<i> whatever suits everyone else.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi Trish
+
+Loqo is from the UK, but currently in Japan and near Tokyo I think.
+
+I am not sure who Dale is?
+
+As for the meeting well, your clock hasn't changed, but they have in
+Europe, as of this weekend. So your currently 10 hours a head of me, and
+9 hours a head of France for example.
+
+You forgot about Josh he's five or fix hours behind me. There's also
+R&#233;mi/Akien in France.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+We're due for a meeting this week, and we also need to get together to
+get our texts started.
+
+Meeting time is 19h00 UTC Wednesday, is that okay for everyone? I can
+do it for this meeting, but once our clocks go back, I'd like to change
+it to 20h00 or 21h00.
+
+Also we need to establish a time when we can collaborate on the texts.
+We'll be using piratepad, <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/">http://piratepad.net/</A> or
+blocnotes, <A HREF="http://bn.parinux.org/.">http://bn.parinux.org/.</A> The parinux site is sometimes more
+stable.
+
+Can people please answer to the lists about their preferred time in UTC?
+
+Cheers!
+
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+Apparently, Marcom is supposed to look after the official planet (and
+receive all the requests and arrange for people to get hooked up). So,
+adding users to the official planet is our task anyway, and that means
+we can decide how the planet is going - and we have to moderate it so
+that we watch out for feeds with offensive or illegal content, and be
+prepared to move... so we need to make sure that people wanting to
+add their feeds are very aware of the Code of Conduct, among other
+things.
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+Josh, can you please find out how we manage the back-end stuff? Maybe
+talk to people on the Sysadmin team?
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
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+Mon Mar 26 13:09:53 EST 2012
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+andromeda up 2 day(s), 64 hour(s), 45 min.
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+Our clocks went an hour forward this weekend that has just been. So 7pm
+UTC is 8pm BST (British Summer Time) here, and for this Wednesday that
+will be ok.
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+The times you provided for when your clocks go back will be ok as well.
+When do your clocks go back?
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+&gt;<i> The times you provided for when your clocks go back will be ok as
+</I>&gt;<i> well. When do your clocks go back?
+</I>
+Let me just google that for you 8-):
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+<A HREF="http://www.timeanddate.com/">http://www.timeanddate.com/</A> has everything, for everywhere.
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+Cheers!
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+&gt;<i> Apparently, Marcom is supposed to look after the official planet
+</I>
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+But it takes time to get a hold of it and have the platform ready for
+that) :-p but don't feel like it's a forbidden area for you.
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+&gt;<i> adding users to the official planet is our task anyway, and that means
+</I>&gt;<i> we can decide how the planet is going - and we have to moderate it so
+</I>&gt;<i> that we watch out for feeds with offensive or illegal content, and be
+</I>&gt;<i> prepared to move... so we need to make sure that people wanting to
+</I>&gt;<i> add their feeds are very aware of the Code of Conduct, among other
+</I>&gt;<i> things.
+</I>
+Right. And you can too think of the planet as not necessarily a feed,
+but as a magazine (of the community at large); it's a matter of
+designing the front page template (see for instance
+<A HREF="http://paper.li/AletaPool/technology">http://paper.li/AletaPool/technology</A> - it's something built out of
+feeds).
+
+&gt;<i> Josh, can you please find out how we manage the back-end stuff? Maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> talk to people on the Sysadmin team?
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 04:12, Patricia Fraser&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Apparently, Marcom is supposed to look after the official planet
+</I>&gt;<i> (and to look after other Web publishing platforms (www for instance).
+</I>&gt;<i> But it takes time to get a hold of it and have the platform ready for
+</I>&gt;<i> that) :-p but don't feel like it's a forbidden area for you.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> adding users to the official planet is our task anyway, and that means
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we can decide how the planet is going - and we have to moderate it so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that we watch out for feeds with offensive or illegal content, and be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> prepared to move... so we need to make sure that people wanting to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> add their feeds are very aware of the Code of Conduct, among other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> things.
+</I>&gt;<i> Right. And you can too think of the planet as not necessarily a feed,
+</I>&gt;<i> but as a magazine (of the community at large); it's a matter of
+</I>&gt;<i> designing the front page template (see for instance
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://paper.li/AletaPool/technology">http://paper.li/AletaPool/technology</A> - it's something built out of
+</I>&gt;<i> feeds).
+</I>
+
+A hearty +1 for making it magazine-like!
+
+
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Josh, can you please find out how we manage the back-end stuff? Maybe
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> talk to people on the Sysadmin team?
+</I>&gt;<i> You can Cc: dams (aka coincoin), he set it up and manages it.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 25 Mar 2012, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Alright people, it's time to start the discussion on the new installer
+</I>&gt;<i> images (or more accurately, continue from last week's meeting).
+</I>&gt;<i> A good jumping off point would be the texts.
+</I>&gt;<i> We have 5 texts, but some people mostly me) are unhappy with them. I think
+</I>&gt;<i> that there should be more of an emphasis on the unique qualities of Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> rather than pointing out all of the things that we do just like any other
+</I>
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+I would have texts about the following :
+
+- Free Software : explain that Mageia is free software and what it means
+ as new users may not know this
+- Mageia Community : explain that Mageia is built by a community, and
+ that people can join and help in different teams. List of teams and
+ short description of what they do, etc ...
+- Main Mageia features : control center, number of packages, main
+ desktop environments available, etc ...
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+ <B>R&#233;mi Verschelde</B>
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+&gt;<i> Meeting time is 19h00 UTC Wednesday, is that okay for everyone? I can
+</I>&gt;<i> do it for this meeting, but once our clocks go back, I'd like to change
+</I>&gt;<i> it to 20h00 or 21h00.
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Alright people, it's time to start the discussion on the new installer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> images (or more accurately, continue from last week's meeting).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A good jumping off point would be the texts.
+</I>
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> We have 5 texts, but some people mostly me) are unhappy with them. I think
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that there should be more of an emphasis on the unique qualities of Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rather than pointing out all of the things that we do just like any other
+</I>
++1
+
+My suggestions below. I believe these points are important!
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would have texts about the following :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - Free Software : explain that Mageia is free software and what it means
+</I>&gt;<i> as new users may not know this
+</I>
+
+&quot;Mageia is developed by a not-for-profit organisation&quot;
+
+(specifically don't say &quot;non-profit&quot; as it dilutes the meaning and
+sounds like a business failure)
+
+
+This aspect of Mageia is what separates it from Suse, Fedora, Ubuntu and
+others. They *DO* care about profit, even if their Linux is free. It
+colours their thinking and motives.
+
+
+&quot;Mageia is free in spirit - free to download, free to use, free of limits&quot;
+
+(try to cover libre and cost aspects of &quot;free&quot; without confusion)
+
+
+&quot;Mageia is made with passion by a global team&quot;
+
+(speaks for itself)
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> - Mageia Community : explain that Mageia is built by a community, and
+</I>&gt;<i> that people can join and help in different teams. List of teams and
+</I>&gt;<i> short description of what they do, etc ...
+</I>
+&quot;By installing Mageia ('using Mageia' on the live CD), you are ALREADY a
+valuable part of the community!&quot;
+
+(Give users a feeling of importance)
+
+
+&quot;Here's how you can join in&quot;
+
+(Call to action)
+
+
+Mention forums, teams, IRC, planets, Twitter, etc. here. Get traffic
+coming to the community.
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> - Main Mageia features : control center, number of packages, main
+</I>&gt;<i> desktop environments available, etc ...
+</I>
+
+
+Start with a high-level view of major qualities first:
+
+
+&quot;Mageia is fast, stable, flexible, built on x years of Mandriva
+expertise*, etc.&quot;
+
+
+Then move onto the individual features as you've mentioned.
+
+
+
+*Mention Mandriva sparingly. It's important to understand Mageia's
+heritage but we need to build an identity beyond Mandrake/Mandriva.
+
+
+
+
+Hope this helps.
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+loqo
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia is free in spirit - free to download, free to use, free of limits&quot;
+</I>I don't like the free of limits in that.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (try to cover libre and cost aspects of &quot;free&quot; without confusion)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia is made with passion by a global team&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (speaks for itself)
+</I>I think that sounds really good.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Mageia Community : explain that Mageia is built by a community, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that people can join and help in different teams. List of teams and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> short description of what they do, etc ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;By installing Mageia ('using Mageia' on the live CD), you are ALREADY
+</I>&gt;<i> a valuable part of the community!&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Give users a feeling of importance)
+</I>Hmm something like that could work quite well.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Here's how you can join in&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Call to action)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mention forums, teams, IRC, planets, Twitter, etc. here. Get traffic
+</I>&gt;<i> coming to the community.
+</I>Identica :), and that kind of message could be good to have.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Main Mageia features : control center, number of packages, main
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> desktop environments available, etc ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Start with a high-level view of major qualities first:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia is fast, stable, flexible, built on x years of Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> expertise*, etc.&quot;
+</I>Certain people won't want Mandriva mentioned in Mageia, that's the only
+problem with that one really I guess.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then move onto the individual features as you've mentioned.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> *Mention Mandriva sparingly. It's important to understand Mageia's
+</I>&gt;<i> heritage but we need to build an identity beyond Mandrake/Mandriva.
+</I>Well some Mandriva history can be useful in promoting Mageia yes,
+however in the installer slide show, I am not so sure about that.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+&gt;<i> My suggestions below. I believe these points are important!
+</I>
+Put them in a piratepad and send the link to the list - then we can all
+work on them, even if we're in a difficult timezone...
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+Cheers!
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+&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia is developed by a not-for-profit organisation&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (specifically don't say &quot;non-profit&quot; as it dilutes the meaning and sounds
+</I>&gt;<i> like a business failure)
+</I>
+&quot;not-for-profit&quot; is usually related to an activity, &quot;nonprofit&quot; to an
+organization. It does not dilute the meaning, it is the meaning.
+
+&gt;<i> This aspect of Mageia is what separates it from Suse, Fedora, Ubuntu and
+</I>&gt;<i> others. They *DO* care about profit, even if their Linux is free. It colours
+</I>&gt;<i> their thinking and motives.
+</I>
+And?
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - Mageia Community : explain that Mageia is built by a community, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; that people can join and help in different teams. List of teams and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; short description of what they do, etc ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;By installing Mageia ('using Mageia' on the live CD), you are ALREADY a
+</I>&gt;<i> valuable part of the community!&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Give users a feeling of importance)
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Here's how you can join in&quot;
+</I>
+Are they part of the community already (above), or they have an extra
+step to join? :)
+
+&gt;<i> Mention forums, teams, IRC, planets, Twitter, etc. here. Get traffic coming
+</I>&gt;<i> to the community.
+</I>
+ Remember these are small, quick &amp; distracting screens (the user is
+waiting for the system to be ready). So the info on each of these has
+to be big, short and obvious to read.
+
+&gt;<i> *Mention Mandriva sparingly. It's important to understand Mageia's heritage
+</I>&gt;<i> but we need to build an identity beyond Mandrake/Mandriva.
+</I>
+Don't mention it at all. It's not the place. And the guy is installing
+Mageia already.
+
+(btw, speaking of a sound scheme, a &quot;wake up&quot; sound event at the end
+of the install process could be nice =&gt; Mageia 3)
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+<PRE>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;By installing Mageia ('using Mageia' on the live CD), you are ALREADY a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> valuable part of the community!&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (Give users a feeling of importance)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Here's how you can join in&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are they part of the community already (above), or they have an extra
+</I>&gt;<i> step to join? :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Mentioning the identity process ere might be useful.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> *Mention Mandriva sparingly. It's important to understand Mageia's heritage
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but we need to build an identity beyond Mandrake/Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't mention it at all. It's not the place. And the guy is installing
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia already.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I'm with rda - don't even bring it up at all.
+&gt;<i> (btw, speaking of a sound scheme, a &quot;wake up&quot; sound event at the end
+</I>&gt;<i> of the install process could be nice =&gt; Mageia 3)
+</I>&gt;<i> _
+</I>
+I like this idea a lot
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+<PRE>Good points being discussed, all very valid. However, let's get logical
+and define some high-level specifics to work within!
+
+
+Can we establish clearly:
+
+1) The number of slides to be used
+2) How long each slide displays for?
+3) The word count/limit per slide
+4) The subject/theme for each slide
+5) Will content be localised for different languages?
+
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+After this we can work out more detailed text and any image(s) for each
+slide.
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+(Additionally, sound during install should have an option to mute - a
+&quot;ta da&quot; sound after installing in business environments may be
+inappropriate. Especially on multiple machines in a single environment.
+Just saying.)
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> 1) The number of slides to be used
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+5
+
+2) How long each slide displays for?
+&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Not up to us, that's the scripting. I think maybe a minute?
+
+3) The word count/limit per slide
+&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Depends on 2.
+
+
+&gt;<i> 4) The subject/theme for each slide
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+What we've been trying to discuss.
+
+5) Will content be localised for different languages?
+&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Probably not for Mga2, maybe 3.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After this we can work out more detailed text and any image(s) for each
+</I>&gt;<i> slide.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+We should start that NOW.
+
+Also, why start a new thread for this topic?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Additionally, sound during install should have an option to mute - a &quot;ta
+</I>&gt;<i> da&quot; sound after installing in business environments may be inappropriate.
+</I>&gt;<i> Especially on multiple machines in a single environment. Just saying.)
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> *Mention Mandriva sparingly. It's important to understand Mageia's heritage
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but we need to build an identity beyond Mandrake/Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Don't mention it at all. It's not the place. And the guy is installing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia already.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm with rda - don't even bring it up at all.
+</I>Like Donald I am also with rda, don't mention it.
+&gt;&gt;<i> (btw, speaking of a sound scheme, a &quot;wake up&quot; sound event at the end
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of the install process could be nice =&gt; Mageia 3)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _
+</I>&gt;<i> I like this idea a lot
+</I>I assume this is a installation is complete sound, that would be a good
+idea. I agree with loqo sounds that are being used there should be a way
+for the user to turn them off as well.
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+</I>&gt;<i> 1) The number of slides to be used
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Cool. Just wanted to be clear.
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> 2) How long each slide displays for?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not up to us, that's the scripting. I think maybe a minute?
+</I>
+
+A very important priority to find this out.
+
+Will it be overall install time divided by 5 - or will the slides loop?
+
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) The word count/limit per slide
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Depends on 2.
+</I>
+
+Finding this number should be really, really high on the To Do list!
+
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> 4) The subject/theme for each slide
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What we've been trying to discuss.
+</I>
+Indeed.
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5) Will content be localised for different languages?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Probably not for Mga2, maybe 3.
+</I>
+Good to know. Thanks! Saves a LOT of work.
+
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After this we can work out more detailed text and any image(s) for
+</I>&gt;<i> each slide.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We should start that NOW.
+</I>
+
+With due respect, how can you paint a house until you build the walls?
+You need structure. Hence getting a word limit and overall topic for
+each slide first.
+
+You cannot just write words. No writer does this. You start with
+structure - theme and word count.
+
+If the limit is 5 big words and 20 smaller words (for example) that
+dictates everything we are trying to write. It is pointless to come up
+with words without a proper format.
+
+So I'm establishing the order in which this process needs to be tackled,
+if we are being professional. A free-for-all over words is not efficient.
+
+If my help is not wanted, I'll step back quietly. Just let me know!
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, why start a new thread for this topic?
+</I>
+I'm sorry if this is not correct procedure. I wanted a straight answer
+to some points and I'm getting about 100 emails a day on various Mageia
+subjects. So I did it for &quot;clarity&quot; as labelled in the subject. This is
+a forked sub-subject about organising and I wanted to treat it as such.
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Additionally, sound during install should have an option to mute
+</I>&gt;<i> - a &quot;ta da&quot; sound after installing in business environments may be
+</I>&gt;<i> inappropriate. Especially on multiple machines in a single
+</I>&gt;<i> environment. Just saying.)
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not up to us, that's the scripting. I think maybe a minute?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A very important priority to find this out.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Will it be overall install time divided by 5 - or will the slides loop?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>As i recall from the install they loop, although I havent watched an
+install for a long time....
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+I'm probably not very popular by talking bluntly, so I apologise again.
+This is how I've learned to get things done and any polite requests for
+changing my style/approach will be taken on board without conflict.
+
+You guys are all awesome and I respect every one of you. I'm proud to be
+a part of this process!
+
+I genuinely love Mageia and want to get the best possible results. I
+wish to see a wide range of users coming to Mageia and loving it as much
+as I do! I also want to make it friendly and clear for newcomers that
+aren't experienced with Linux. Why should Ubuntu get them all?
+;)
+
+
+
+So... I've compiled some text on PiratePad, at Trish's request and I
+hope it proves useful as a starting point. Over to you!
+
+<A HREF="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</A>
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+
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+<PRE>Guys, please:
+ - use the Wiki to check in your progress and to provide answers:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Artwork_Installer">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Artwork_Installer</A> here (updated in this
+case to reflect your questions/answers). It makes for a more stable
+reference;
+ - use the list archives too to know where you stand. There has been
+several discussions about the installer screens story and _contents_
+and some about the format already. There already has been two series
+of rendering through the artwork team, both have been rejected and we
+need a new one by this week, unless we just cancel the installer
+screens for this release.
+
+On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 01:34, loqo &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">hoverflydesign at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 28/03/12 01:15, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3) The word count/limit per slide
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Depends on 2.
+</I>
+Depends on how it is actually rendered and it still keeps readable.
+
+&gt;<i> With due respect, how can you paint a house until you build the walls?
+</I>
+Building software is not like building a house.
+
+&gt;<i> It is pointless to come up with words without a proper format.
+</I>
+It is pointless to talk about format without the actual story to tell
+first. Then, talk about the format.
+
+&gt;<i> if we are being professional.
+</I>
+&quot;being professional&quot; is void of meaning and purpose. Call it &quot;being
+organized&quot; if you want.
+
+&gt;<i> If my help is not wanted, I'll step back quietly. Just let me know!
+</I>
+It's not that. It's that there has been some work already on the list
+(that would benefit from being written/stored in the Wiki as an &quot;in
+progress&quot; document), and starting all over again every week won't
+help.
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+&gt;<i> So... I've compiled some text on PiratePad, at Trish's request and I
+</I>&gt;<i> hope it proves useful as a starting point. Over to you!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</A>
+</I>
+I've added some comments in the chat area. Can people please go over
+and edit, add, edit - it would be good to have something nearly-final to
+vote on by the time of our meeting tonight.
+
+NB: each slide (5 of them) must have NO MORE than 20 words - less if
+you can do it!
+
+Cheers,
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+&gt;<i> Guys, please:
+</I>&gt;<i> - use the Wiki to check in your progress and to provide answers:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Artwork_Installer">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Artwork_Installer</A> here (updated in this
+</I>&gt;<i> case to reflect your questions/answers). It makes for a more stable
+</I>&gt;<i> reference;
+</I>&gt;<i> - use the list archives too to know where you stand. There has been
+</I>&gt;<i> several discussions about the installer screens story and _contents_
+</I>&gt;<i> and some about the format already. There already has been two series
+</I>&gt;<i> of rendering through the artwork team, both have been rejected and we
+</I>&gt;<i> need a new one by this week, unless we just cancel the installer
+</I>&gt;<i> screens for this release.
+</I>
+Hi Romain,
+
+I take your points. I was also unaware of all the existing work. Thank
+you for highlighting this and linking!
+
+loqo
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 01:34, loqo&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">hoverflydesign at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 28/03/12 01:15, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3) The word count/limit per slide
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Depends on 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> Depends on how it is actually rendered and it still keeps readable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> With due respect, how can you paint a house until you build the walls?
+</I>&gt;<i> Building software is not like building a house.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is pointless to come up with words without a proper format.
+</I>&gt;<i> It is pointless to talk about format without the actual story to tell
+</I>&gt;<i> first. Then, talk about the format.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if we are being professional.
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;being professional&quot; is void of meaning and purpose. Call it &quot;being
+</I>&gt;<i> organized&quot; if you want.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If my help is not wanted, I'll step back quietly. Just let me know!
+</I>&gt;<i> It's not that. It's that there has been some work already on the list
+</I>&gt;<i> (that would benefit from being written/stored in the Wiki as an &quot;in
+</I>&gt;<i> progress&quot; document), and starting all over again every week won't
+</I>&gt;<i> help.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> - use the Wiki to check in your progress and to provide answers:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Artwork_Installer">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Artwork_Installer</A> here (updated in this
+</I>&gt;<i> case to reflect your questions/answers). It makes for a more stable
+</I>&gt;<i> reference;
+</I>
+The install images linked on this page are those from Mageia 1, but
+they give a good idea of how much text will fit on an install screen.
+
+Anyway: get over to the piratepad and get started - we know more or
+less what we want, and if you guys leave me to write it at the last
+minute... 8-)
+
+Cheers!
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+&gt;<i> Meeting time is 19h00 UTC Wednesday, is that okay for everyone? I can
+</I>&gt;<i> do it for this meeting, but once our clocks go back, I'd like to change
+</I>&gt;<i> it to 20h00 or 21h00.
+</I>
+Reminder: the marketing meeting will be at 19h00 UTC today, i.e. in
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/26 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Meeting time is 19h00 UTC Wednesday, is that okay for everyone? I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; can do it for this meeting, but once our clocks go back, I'd like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to change it to 20h00 or 21h00.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Reminder: the marketing meeting will be at 19h00 UTC today, i.e. in
+</I>&gt;<i> about thirty minutes.
+</I>&gt;<i> (I tend to forget scheduled meetings so I send this reminder to
+</I>&gt;<i> prevent others from doing so ;) ).
+</I>
+Thanks R&#233;mi!
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+Head over here: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_sandbox">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_sandbox</A>
+
+you'll see there's a new space for us to work on the release texts
+together. Get your wiki login if you don't already have it, and dive in!
+
+Cheers,
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+
+There's a piratepad in progress here:
+
+<A HREF="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</A>
+
+Please head over there and edit or comment. We'd like to finalise these
+texts within 24 hours, so the minute you have some time...
+
+Sorry if the connection is a bit iffy - the blocnotes at parinux.net
+appears not to be available just now.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+For those who couldn't make it, meeting logs are here:
+
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2012/mageia-marcom.2012-03-28-19.07.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2012/mageia-marcom.2012-03-28-19.07.html</A>
+
+Please note the second topic about using the Sandbox for the release
+texts. We have an absolute deadline of April 23rd to complete these,
+and ideally we should be ready a week earlier, to allow the i18n team
+to do their work.
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Thu Mar 29 07:30:40 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
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+
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's a piratepad in progress here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+But which one is it? I see at least three versions....
+
+
+&gt;<i> Please head over there and edit or comment. We'd like to finalise these
+</I>&gt;<i> texts within 24 hours, so the minute you have some time...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry if the connection is a bit iffy - the blocnotes at parinux.net
+</I>&gt;<i> appears not to be available just now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+</I>&gt;<i> -35.67896, 142.66637
+</I>&gt;<i> Thu Mar 29 07:27:26 EST 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+</I>&gt;<i> andromeda up 2 day(s), 49 hour(s), 35 min.
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But which one is it? I see at least three versions....
+</I>
+The 5 at the top are what we're currently working on - the ones below
+are previous versions, suggestions etc.
+
+Any comments?
+
+--
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Thu Mar 29 10:03:54 EST 2012
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>I Sebastian have done some changes to the pad:
+<A HREF="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</A>
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+ <B>Josh King (dotmil)</B>
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+<PRE>On 03/25/2012 09:12 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Josh, can you please find out how we manage the back-end stuff? Maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> talk to people on the Sysadmin team?
+</I> Sorry for the slow reply. School work was eating my up the past few days.
+
+To admin the planet, all that is needed in the password for
+<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/admin/login.php">http://planet.mageia.org/en/admin/login.php</A>
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+I was told marcom had this? Is this true?
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>Below are the text's that I (Sebastian sebsebseb) think are the best so
+far, but if other people want to continue working on the text's please
+do so on the pad. <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</A>
+
+1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of users,
+developers, and advocates from around the world. (18 words)
+
+2. Mageia is international - you can use it and be part of our community
+in your own language. (17 words)
+
+3. Mageia is Open Source - choose from thousands of app(lications)s.
+Office, Internet, Development, Education, and other types of software.
+(18 words)
+
+Open Source for 3 not Free Software since we have the tainted repo for
+example.
+
+4. Mageia Control Center allows easy access to setting up user accounts,
+hardware and software, networking, security and more. (18 words)
+
+5. Using Mageia makes you part of our community - please come and join
+us! www.mageia.org (14)
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+
+&gt;<i> To admin the planet, all that is needed in the password for
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/admin/login.php">http://planet.mageia.org/en/admin/login.php</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was told marcom had this? Is this true?
+</I>
+I think you need to talk to Dams, Damien Lallement:
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt;, or coincoin on IRC.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+&gt;<i> 1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of users, developers, and advocates from around the world. (18 words)
+</I>
+Positive form please: st like &quot;Mageia is more than&quot;
+
+&gt;<i> 3. Mageia is Open Source - choose from thousands of app(lications)s. Office, Internet, Development, Education, and other types of software. (18 words)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Open Source for 3 not Free Software since we have the tainted repo for example.
+</I>
+_nonfree_ isn't free software, and it's not open source either. Tainted is free software/open source but potentially subject to patents in some significant places for us.
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+<PRE>Alright people, we have our texts (pretty much). Everything else is just a
+matter of wording. Let's start talking artwork.
+I like the basic design and color scheme for Guala's earlier images. Let's
+start with that.
+How about:
+1. Community - something like a LAN party, a whole bunch of stylized people
+sitting at computers with the Mageia logo on them.
+2. International - Stylized globe or map of the world with Mageia cauldrons
+in various different places, connected as if a network.
+3. Open Source - Maybe some snapshots of running applications.
+4. MCC - Snapshots of the MCC.
+5. Community - Maybe back to the first image, maybe a variation on the same
+thing.
+
+
+On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Le 29 mars 2012 &#224; 04:38, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt; a
+</I>&gt;<i> &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of users,
+</I>&gt;<i> developers, and advocates from around the world. (18 words)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Positive form please: st like &quot;Mageia is more than&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 3. Mageia is Open Source - choose from thousands of app(lications)s.
+</I>&gt;<i> Office, Internet, Development, Education, and other types of software. (18
+</I>&gt;<i> words)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Open Source for 3 not Free Software since we have the tainted repo for
+</I>&gt;<i> example.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _nonfree_ isn't free software, and it's not open source either. Tainted is
+</I>&gt;<i> free software/open source but potentially subject to patents in some
+</I>&gt;<i> significant places for us.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+<PRE>Hi Max,
+
+&gt;<i> I like the basic design and color scheme for Guala's earlier images.
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's start with that.
+</I>&gt;<i> How about:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Community - something like a LAN party, a whole bunch of stylized
+</I>&gt;<i> people sitting at computers with the Mageia logo on them.
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. International - Stylized globe or map of the world with Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldrons in various different places, connected as if a network.
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Open Source - Maybe some snapshots of running applications.
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. MCC - Snapshots of the MCC.
+</I>&gt;<i> 5. Community - Maybe back to the first image, maybe a variation on
+</I>&gt;<i> the same thing.
+</I>
+Sounds fine - we'll have the final form of the words by the weekend,
+but the numbers of words won't change.
+
+Let's have a look at the images when you have a first draft?
+
+Cheers!
+
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+ <B>Josh King (dotmil)</B>
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+<PRE>I know everyone is busy with the installer texts and images.
+Unfortunately that's not my strong suit so I haven't had much to add.
+
+What I do have is some ideas I would like feedback and comments on
+before we have another mageiapeople.org fiasco. The 2 main ideas I have are
+
+1) a newsletter - biweekly or whatever frequency fits to update
+subscribers on whats new in Magia. It would also be a good place for
+developer/team member interviews, and maybe a &quot;howto&quot; section. I don't
+claim to be a writer by any means so this would need to be a
+collaborative effort
+
+2) A Mageia news site. A very close friend of mine started this with
+Debian news years ago and it has grown into one of the more respected
+tech sites, I could see this could duplicate content from the mailing
+letter, but also maybe include weekly updates on the discussions on
+-discuss, -dev, etc. for those who may be interested.
+
+I'm just spit balling here but I really think we need to put forth the
+effort to market Mageia around the 2 release and after, Hopefully these
+ideas get the ball rolling. I'd be thrilled to hear they're great, but
+am prepared to be shot down again if so be it. I'd LOVE to hear from
+others on how to market mageia beyond the occasional announcement on the
+news sites around the web. Mageia is amazing and people need to know that!
+
+So what do you think of 1 or 2, and what are your suggestions for more
+ideas?
+
+Thanks!
+Josh
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+&gt;<i> What I do have is some ideas I would like feedback and comments on before we
+</I>&gt;<i> have another mageiapeople.org fiasco.
+</I>
+Why do you call it a fiasco?
+
+&gt;<i> 1) a newsletter [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) A Mageia news site. [...]
+</I>
+To be short; these are good ideas;
+
+ * on the _content_:
+ - we considered (and started) interviews on the blog, several
+months ago (see <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_interviews">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_interviews</A> ) but
+it didn't live through, but it's still free to pick up by someone to
+relist people to interview and actually do/write/review/publish these
+on the blog.
+ - howtos: you should ping documentation team, as they may have
+ideas and articles already ready for that kind of thing.
+ - there used to be summaries of what happened on the mailing-lists,
+in the Mandriva era (IIRC, awilliamson, ofaurax's &quot;jus de cuisson&quot; and
+many other contributors). Not sure about now.
+
+ * on the _format_:
+ - I'd skip the mail newsletter format; it's a one-way, one-time
+publication that stays in a inbox; and it's highly coupled to a list
+of subscribers to maintain; a blog, a magazine, a planet, publish it
+in a more interactive way, without controlled subscription, and keep
+it online and referenced for years;
+ - the news site: let's see what we can do with a Planet platform to
+render blogs like that first; if that's not concluding an experience,
+and if you can find the right platform and people to set it up and
+maintain it as a news site, then why not.
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 04:51, Josh King (dotmil)&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What I do have is some ideas I would like feedback and comments on before we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have another mageiapeople.org fiasco.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why do you call it a fiasco?
+</I>
+Ok poor choice of words. I've spent 2 weeks now trying to track down who
+has responsibility to the planet with no luck yet. Everyone points at
+everyone else. Without the moonmoon admin credentials there's not much
+that can be done. The planetmagiea site was running in under 5 hours
+with 4 colaborators.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1) a newsletter [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2) A Mageia news site. [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To be short; these are good ideas;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * on the _content_:
+</I>&gt;<i> - we considered (and started) interviews on the blog, several
+</I>&gt;<i> months ago (see <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_interviews">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_interviews</A> ) but
+</I>&gt;<i> it didn't live through, but it's still free to pick up by someone to
+</I>&gt;<i> relist people to interview and actually do/write/review/publish these
+</I>&gt;<i> on the blog.
+</I>&gt;<i> - howtos: you should ping documentation team, as they may have
+</I>&gt;<i> ideas and articles already ready for that kind of thing.
+</I>&gt;<i> - there used to be summaries of what happened on the mailing-lists,
+</I>&gt;<i> in the Mandriva era (IIRC, awilliamson, ofaurax's &quot;jus de cuisson&quot; and
+</I>&gt;<i> many other contributors). Not sure about now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I'd even be willing to write there Ala Debian's newsletter if needed to
+get things started.
+
+&gt;<i> * on the _format_:
+</I>&gt;<i> - I'd skip the mail newsletter format; it's a one-way, one-time
+</I>&gt;<i> publication that stays in a inbox; and it's highly coupled to a list
+</I>&gt;<i> of subscribers to maintain; a blog, a magazine, a planet, publish it
+</I>&gt;<i> in a more interactive way, without controlled subscription, and keep
+</I>&gt;<i> it online and referenced for years;
+</I>
+Agree, the newsletter was my last choice as well.
+
+&gt;<i> - the news site: let's see what we can do with a Planet platform to
+</I>&gt;<i> render blogs like that first; if that's not concluding an experience,
+</I>&gt;<i> and if you can find the right platform and people to set it up and
+</I>&gt;<i> maintain it as a news site, then why not.
+</I>
+Sounds good. If I can get an answer from anyone involved with the planet
+site currently I'd be more than happy to take it over. I also have a
+server provider willing to help with a bit of minor advertising on the
+site. Do you know anyone else besides who has previously been suggested
+that may know the admin credentials to the planet?
+
+I's just like to see more of a web based ecosystem for Mga2, As it is,
+there;s the official sites, the language specific sites, and not much
+more. More websites unfortunately seems to generate more buzz.
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+&gt;<i> On 03/30/2012 02:59 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 04:51, Josh King (dotmil)&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What I do have is some ideas I would like feedback and comments on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> before we
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have another mageiapeople.org fiasco.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why do you call it a fiasco?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok poor choice of words. I've spent 2 weeks now trying to track down who
+</I>&gt;<i> has responsibility to the planet with no luck yet. Everyone points at
+</I>&gt;<i> everyone else. Without the moonmoon admin credentials there's not much
+</I>&gt;<i> that can be done. The planetmagiea site was running in under 5 hours
+</I>&gt;<i> with 4 colaborators.
+</I>
+Sorry, mageiapeople. Only on cup of coffee #1 :-)
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+&gt;<i> On 03/30/2012 06:14 AM, Josh King (dotmil) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 03/30/2012 02:59 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 04:51, Josh King (dotmil)&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What I do have is some ideas I would like feedback and comments on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> before we
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have another mageiapeople.org fiasco.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Why do you call it a fiasco?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ok poor choice of words. I've spent 2 weeks now trying to track down who
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> has responsibility to the planet with no luck yet. Everyone points at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> everyone else. Without the moonmoon admin credentials there's not much
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that can be done. The planetmagiea site was running in under 5 hours
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with 4 colaborators.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry, mageiapeople. Only on cup of coffee #1 :-)
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Last reply to myself, but something like this is what I'm envisioning.
+Including off site reviews, news articles, dev interviews, and general
+evangelism. There could be a disclaimer to stat this it&#8217;s affiliated
+with Maheia.or proper in way way too
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds good. If I can get an answer from anyone involved with the planet
+</I>&gt;<i> site currently I'd be more than happy to take it over. I also have a server
+</I>&gt;<i> provider willing to help with a bit of minor advertising on the site. Do
+</I>&gt;<i> you know anyone else besides who has previously been suggested that may
+</I>&gt;<i> know the admin credentials to the planet?
+</I>
+Did you ask damsweb ? He setup the planet website, and has credentials
+to add new feeds or do other changes.
+
+However it's true that information about who needs to be contacted to
+add a new feed is currently missing on the page.
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Josh King (dotmil) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sounds good. If I can get an answer from anyone involved with the planet
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> site currently I'd be more than happy to take it over. I also have a server
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> provider willing to help with a bit of minor advertising on the site. Do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you know anyone else besides who has previously been suggested that may
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> know the admin credentials to the planet?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Did you ask damsweb ? He setup the planet website, and has credentials
+</I>&gt;<i> to add new feeds or do other changes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+i dont recall if I emailed him. I'll look up his address and try again.
+Thanks!
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+&gt;<i> On 03/30/2012 07:45 AM, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Josh King (dotmil) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sounds good. If I can get an answer from anyone involved with the planet
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> site currently I'd be more than happy to take it over. I also have a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> server
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> provider willing to help with a bit of minor advertising on the site. Do
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> you know anyone else besides who has previously been suggested that may
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> know the admin credentials to the planet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Did you ask damsweb ? He setup the planet website, and has credentials
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to add new feeds or do other changes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i dont recall if I emailed him. I'll look up his address and try again.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks!
+</I>On a different note, the news site look to be different enough from the
+planet. Or I am missing something again? As I said before I can host
+there myself and any proceeds would go back to Mageia. Maybe even add
+the Mageia store for t-shirts, etc. that some have been asking for
+(myself included) :-)
+
+Thoughts? New ideas for marketing/community building we can do? The more
+people we get involved the better
+
+Josh
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+&gt;<i> On 03/30/2012 07:45 AM, nicolas vigier wrote:
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Did you ask damsweb ? He setup the planet website, and has credentials
+</I>a-marketing
+&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Does anyone have contact (email) for him? I can't seem to catch him online
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+&gt;<i> Do you know anyone else besides who has previously been suggested that
+</I>&gt;<i> may know the admin credentials to the planet?
+</I>
+Damien contacted you didn't he?
+
+Started <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets</A> to document the thing. The
+&quot;how to get referenced&quot; bit is to be ported to the planet side bar
+(and the whole wiki article may be removed once we update completely
+the planet UI).
+
+In the meantime, candidates to add their blog to the planets may just
+ping this list.
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+<PRE>On 03/28/2012 11:00 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Josh,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To admin the planet, all that is needed in the password for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/admin/login.php">http://planet.mageia.org/en/admin/login.php</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was told marcom had this? Is this true?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think you need to talk to Dams, Damien Lallement:
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt;, or coincoin on IRC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>
+Still no response on this. Will keep you updated, but all we need is the
+admin password for moonmoon and I can take it from there. Patricia, if
+nothing is heard back can you bring this up at the next council meeting
+perhaps?
+
+Also, I think the Planet should remain just a planet (blogs only). If we
+want an e-zine type of site then that should be done separately. Just my
+thoughts
+
+
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+<PRE>The Linuxwochen Vienna will be held from 3.-5. of May at University of
+Applied Sciences Technikum Wien. This year the Linuxwochen are
+co-located with the Libre Graphics Meeting, which is held from 2.-5.
+of May in the same building.
+There are some days left until the Call for Papers and Presentations
+end, the deadline is still April the 1st. This year we like to cover
+the following points:
+
+Audio, Multimedia &amp; Arts
+Content Management &amp; Webdevelopment
+GIS, GeoDaten and OpenData
+IT Security
+Programs for home and office
+Smartphones - hardware and software
+Software Devlopment from applications until embedded devices
+Spieleentwicklung &amp; Game Design &amp; Level Editing
+System administration, Cloud &amp; Cluster and Virtualisierung
+
+We accept talks and workshops in english and german. You can submit
+them with our submission system: <A HREF="http://cfp.linuxwochen.at/cfp_wien/">http://cfp.linuxwochen.at/cfp_wien/</A>
+If you like to have a booth for your project, please write a mail with
+what you need to <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">programm2012 at linuxwochen.at</A>
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+ <h1>March 2012 Archives by author</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Mar 1 21:52:22 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 30 20:10:02 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 237<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000690.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000691.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000694.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000696.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000698.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000702.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000708.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000755.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000761.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000763.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000764.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000765.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000766.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000768.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000769.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000770.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000772.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000705.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000710.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000538.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000540.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000542.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000546.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000549.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000555.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000556.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000557.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000560.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000562.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000564.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000568.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000577.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000578.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000579.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000596.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000597.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000599.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000598.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000600.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000603.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000604.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000610.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000612.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000614.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000616.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000624.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000628.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000629.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000631.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000633.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000635.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000638.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom Meeting 14 March
+</A><A NAME="638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000640.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000687.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000707.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000721.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000722.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000724.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000725.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000727.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000734.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000744.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000746.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000748.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts workspace
+</A><A NAME="749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000750.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000751.html">[Mageia-marketing] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000753.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000757.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000760.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000928.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxwochen Wien - Call For Papers
+</A><A NAME="928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Jahre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000634.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000541.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000544.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000590.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000591.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000595.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000601.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000602.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000605.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000607.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000639.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom Meeting 14 March
+</A><A NAME="639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000688.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000712.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000570.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000565.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation splash screens...
+</A><A NAME="565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000566.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000571.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation splash screens updated...
+</A><A NAME="571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000572.html">[Mageia-marketing] New set of splash screens (gray edition)
+</A><A NAME="572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000574.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000554.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000573.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000584.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000719.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000738.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000752.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000759.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000592.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000615.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000622.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000711.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000718.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000736.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000741.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000548.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000551.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000550.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000552.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000553.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000567.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000575.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000580.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000581.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000582.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000583.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000587.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000606.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000608.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000617.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000619.html">[Mageia-marketing] Okay time for some shuteye...
+</A><A NAME="619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000636.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000642.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000569.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000613.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000717.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000731.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000747.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000576.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000586.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000706.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000728.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000735.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000743.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000758.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000762.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000623.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>josh at linuxpunks.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000699.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000715.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000716.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000729.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000732.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000737.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000740.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000742.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000745.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000537.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000539.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000543.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000545.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000547.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000559.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000558.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000561.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000563.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000588.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000589.html">[Mageia-marketing] My reply to Esteban, Max, and Bradley.
+</A><A NAME="589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000593.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000594.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000609.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000611.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000618.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000620.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000621.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work! another reply
+</A><A NAME="621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000625.html">[Mageia-marketing] Time zones and Mageia marketing team meetings
+</A><A NAME="625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000627.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000630.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000632.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000637.html">[Mageia-marketing] I think we should have a joint marketing team and artwork team meeting rather soon.
+</A><A NAME="637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000641.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-marketing] Regarding podcasts
+</A><A NAME="666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-marketing] Regarding Mageia and social networking sites
+</A><A NAME="667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-marketing] We should attract new/potential contributors
+</A><A NAME="668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000689.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000692.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000693.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000695.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000697.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000700.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000701.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000703.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000704.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000713.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000714.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000720.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000723.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000726.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000733.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000739.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000754.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000756.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000585.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000626.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000709.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000730.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000767.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
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+ <h1>March 2012 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Mar 1 21:52:22 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 30 20:10:02 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 237<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000537.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000538.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000539.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000540.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000541.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000542.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000543.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000544.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000545.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000546.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000547.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000548.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000551.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000549.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000550.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000552.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000553.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000554.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000555.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000556.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000557.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000559.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000558.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000561.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000560.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000562.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000563.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000564.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000565.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation splash screens...
+</A><A NAME="565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000566.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000567.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000568.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000569.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000570.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000571.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation splash screens updated...
+</A><A NAME="571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000572.html">[Mageia-marketing] New set of splash screens (gray edition)
+</A><A NAME="572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000573.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000574.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000575.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000576.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000580.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000581.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000577.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000578.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000579.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000582.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000583.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000584.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000585.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000586.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000587.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000588.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000589.html">[Mageia-marketing] My reply to Esteban, Max, and Bradley.
+</A><A NAME="589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000590.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000591.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000592.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000593.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000594.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000595.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000596.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000597.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000599.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000928.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxwochen Wien - Call For Papers
+</A><A NAME="928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Jahre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000598.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000600.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000601.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000602.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000603.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000604.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000605.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000606.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000607.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000608.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000609.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000610.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000611.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000612.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000613.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000614.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000615.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000616.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000617.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000619.html">[Mageia-marketing] Okay time for some shuteye...
+</A><A NAME="619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000618.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000620.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000621.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work! another reply
+</A><A NAME="621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000622.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000623.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>josh at linuxpunks.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000624.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000625.html">[Mageia-marketing] Time zones and Mageia marketing team meetings
+</A><A NAME="625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000626.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000627.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000628.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000629.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000630.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000631.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000632.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000633.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000634.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000635.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000636.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000637.html">[Mageia-marketing] I think we should have a joint marketing team and artwork team meeting rather soon.
+</A><A NAME="637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000638.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom Meeting 14 March
+</A><A NAME="638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000639.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom Meeting 14 March
+</A><A NAME="639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000640.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000641.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000642.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-marketing] Regarding podcasts
+</A><A NAME="666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-marketing] Regarding Mageia and social networking sites
+</A><A NAME="667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-marketing] We should attract new/potential contributors
+</A><A NAME="668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000687.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000688.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000689.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000690.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000691.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000692.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000693.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000694.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000695.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000696.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000697.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000698.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000699.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000700.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000701.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000702.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000703.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000704.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000705.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000706.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000707.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000708.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000709.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000710.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000712.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000711.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000713.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000714.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000715.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000716.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000717.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000718.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000719.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000720.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000721.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000722.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000723.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000724.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000725.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000726.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000727.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000728.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000729.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000730.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000731.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000732.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000733.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000734.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000735.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000736.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000737.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000738.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000739.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000740.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000741.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000742.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000743.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000744.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000745.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000746.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000747.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000748.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts workspace
+</A><A NAME="749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000750.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000751.html">[Mageia-marketing] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000752.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000753.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000754.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000755.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000756.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000757.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000758.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000759.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000760.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000761.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000762.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000763.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000764.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000765.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000766.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000768.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000769.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000767.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000770.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000772.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 30 20:10:02 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:14:23 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
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+ <h1>March 2012 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Mar 1 21:52:22 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 30 20:10:02 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 237<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000689.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000691.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000692.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000594.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000608.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000612.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000573.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000574.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000575.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000580.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000578.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000641.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000615.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000576.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000581.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000584.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000586.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000587.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000551.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000554.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000716.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000722.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000723.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000699.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000701.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000702.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000703.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000709.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000710.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000712.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000711.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000714.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000715.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000637.html">[Mageia-marketing] I think we should have a joint marketing team and artwork team meeting rather soon.
+</A><A NAME="637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000633.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000634.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000635.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000636.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000640.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000571.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation splash screens updated...
+</A><A NAME="571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000565.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation splash screens...
+</A><A NAME="565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000719.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000720.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000721.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000730.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000732.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000733.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000734.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000735.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000736.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000739.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000742.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000744.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000737.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000738.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000740.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000741.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000743.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000745.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000746.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000577.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000583.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000593.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000597.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000642.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000928.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxwochen Wien - Call For Papers
+</A><A NAME="928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Jahre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000537.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000538.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000539.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000556.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000559.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000561.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000562.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000696.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000697.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000698.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000700.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000704.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000705.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000706.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000707.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000708.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000713.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000718.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000638.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom Meeting 14 March
+</A><A NAME="638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000639.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom Meeting 14 March
+</A><A NAME="639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000687.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000688.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000690.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000693.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000694.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000695.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000724.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000726.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000727.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000731.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000747.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000748.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000557.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000558.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000560.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000563.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000564.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000590.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000589.html">[Mageia-marketing] My reply to Esteban, Max, and Bradley.
+</A><A NAME="589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000572.html">[Mageia-marketing] New set of splash screens (gray edition)
+</A><A NAME="572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000627.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000628.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000629.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000630.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000631.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000632.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000619.html">[Mageia-marketing] Okay time for some shuteye...
+</A><A NAME="619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000605.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000609.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000761.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000762.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000763.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000764.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000765.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000766.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000768.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000769.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000767.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000770.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-marketing] Regarding Mageia and social networking sites
+</A><A NAME="667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-marketing] Regarding podcasts
+</A><A NAME="666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts workspace
+</A><A NAME="749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000717.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000566.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000567.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000568.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000569.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000570.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000540.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000541.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000542.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000543.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000544.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000545.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000546.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000547.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000548.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000549.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000550.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000552.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000553.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000555.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000725.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000728.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000729.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000755.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000757.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000772.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000625.html">[Mageia-marketing] Time zones and Mageia marketing team meetings
+</A><A NAME="625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000598.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000600.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000601.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000603.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000606.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000607.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000610.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000611.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000617.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000620.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000621.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work! another reply
+</A><A NAME="621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000751.html">[Mageia-marketing] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000750.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000752.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000753.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000754.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000756.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000758.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000759.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000760.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000579.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000582.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000585.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000588.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000591.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000592.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000595.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000596.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000599.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000602.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000604.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000613.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000614.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000616.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000622.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000623.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>josh at linuxpunks.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000626.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000618.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000624.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-marketing] We should attract new/potential contributors
+</A><A NAME="668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 30 20:10:02 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:14:23 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
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+
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>March 2012 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Mar 1 21:52:22 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 30 20:10:02 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 237<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01330635142- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000537.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330635142-01330650930- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000538.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330635142-01330650930-01330714029- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000539.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330635142-01330650930-01330714029-01331023111- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000556.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330635142-01330650930-01330714029-01331023111-01331043833- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000559.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330981933- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000540.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330981933-01330985056- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000541.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000542.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000543.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01330989192- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000544.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01330989192-01330989892- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000545.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01330990893- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000546.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01330990893-01330992453- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000547.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01330990893-01330992453-01331004839- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000548.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01330990893-01330992453-01331004839-01331007296- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000549.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01330990893-01330992453-01331004839-01331007296-01331009501- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000553.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01331007834- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000552.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01331007834-01331022950- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000555.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01330981933-01331007337- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000550.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331005468- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000551.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331005468-01331017998- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000554.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331028160- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000557.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331028160-01331045667- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000558.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331028160-01331045667-01331063355- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000560.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331028160-01331045667-01331063355-01331083498- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000563.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331028160-01331045667-01331063355-01331083498-01331085419- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000564.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331028160-01331045667-01331063355-01331083498-01331085419-01331579444- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000590.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331051753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000561.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331051753-01331064016- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000562.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331216192- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000565.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation splash screens...
+</A><A NAME="565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331267214- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000566.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331267214-01331270931- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000567.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331267214-01331274860- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000568.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331267214-01331274860-01331294764- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000570.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331267214-01331293773- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000569.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331306221- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000571.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation splash screens updated...
+</A><A NAME="571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331405885- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000572.html">[Mageia-marketing] New set of splash screens (gray edition)
+</A><A NAME="572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331504183- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000573.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331504183-01331530418- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000574.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331504183-01331530418-01331540570- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000575.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01331504183-01331530418-01331548895- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000578.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331504183-01331547559- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000576.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331504183-01331547559-01331548414- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000581.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331504183-01331547559-01331548414-01331559279- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000584.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331504183-01331547559-01331548414-01331559279-01331564411- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000586.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331504183-01331547559-01331548414-01331559279-01331567217- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000587.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331504183-01331547679- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000580.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331548673- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000577.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331548673-01331557363- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000583.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331548673-01331580833- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000593.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331548673-01331580833-01331584937- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000597.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331549389- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000579.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331549389-01331555420- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000582.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331549389-01331562856- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000585.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331549389-01331575598- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000588.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331549389-01331575598-01331583904- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000595.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000596.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687-01331587286- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000602.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687-01331587286-01331588287- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000604.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687-01331587286-01331588287-01331595443- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000605.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687-01331587286-01331588287-01331595443-01331601669- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000609.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687-01331587286-01331588287-01331595443-01331833416- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687-01331587286-01331588287-01331595443-01331833416-01331837240- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687-01331587286-01331588287-01331595443-01331833416-01331837240-01331837374- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687-01331587286-01331588287-01331595443-01331833416-01331837240-01331837374-01331837558- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331549389-01331579563- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000591.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331549389-01331579563-01331579772- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000592.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331549389-01331585128- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000599.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331549389-01331585128-01331628915- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000613.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331549389-01331585128-01331628915-01331630486- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000614.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331549389-01331640958- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000616.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331549389-01331640958-01331664693- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000618.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331549389-01331640958-01331664693-01331673530- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000622.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331576613- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000589.html">[Mageia-marketing] My reply to Esteban, Max, and Bradley.
+</A><A NAME="589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331581434- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000594.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331581434-01331601357- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000608.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331581434-01331601357-01331605326- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000612.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331585244- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000928.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxwochen Wien - Call For Papers
+</A><A NAME="928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Jahre
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331585823- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000598.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331585823-01331586802- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000600.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331585823-01331586802-01331586941- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000601.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331585823-01331586802-01331586941-01331587720- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000603.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01331585823-01331586802-01331600721- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000606.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331585823-01331586802-01331600721-01331600984- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000607.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331585823-01331586802-01331600721-01331602018- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000610.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331585823-01331586802-01331600721-01331602018-01331603643- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000611.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331585823-01331586802-01331600721-01331602018-01331655076- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000617.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331585823-01331586802-01331600721-01331602018-01331655076-01331668559- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000620.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331585823-01331586802-01331600721-01331602018-01331655076-01331670178- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000621.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work! another reply
+</A><A NAME="621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331633034- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000615.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331663964- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000619.html">[Mageia-marketing] Okay time for some shuteye...
+</A><A NAME="619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331673646- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000623.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>josh at linuxpunks.com
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331673646-01331674448- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000624.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331673646-01331674448-01331675173- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000626.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331674901- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000625.html">[Mageia-marketing] Time zones and Mageia marketing team meetings
+</A><A NAME="625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331676263- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000627.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331676263-01331679025- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000628.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331676263-01331679464- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000629.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331676263-01331679464-01331681032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000630.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331676263-01331681728- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000631.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331676263-01331681728-01331682330- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000632.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331685964- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000633.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331685964-01331689903- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000634.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331685964-01331689903-01331691361- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000635.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01331685964-01331689903-01331757994- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000640.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331685964-01331713850- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000636.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331754865- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000637.html">[Mageia-marketing] I think we should have a joint marketing team and artwork team meeting rather soon.
+</A><A NAME="637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331757179- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000638.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom Meeting 14 March
+</A><A NAME="638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331757179-01331757293- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000639.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom Meeting 14 March
+</A><A NAME="639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331760389- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000641.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331828538- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000642.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331828538-01332034149- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331828538-01332034149-01332068569- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331844266- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331844266-01331844459- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331844266-01331844929- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331844266-01331844929-01331846357- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01331844266-01331844929-01331846533- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331844266-01331844929-01331846533-01331848217- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331844266-01331844929-01331846533-01331853322- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331844266-01331844929-01331846533-01331994624- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331844266-01331844929-01331846533-01331994624-01332009817- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331844266-01331844929-01331846533-01331994624-01332009817-01332012142- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331844266-01331893725- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331844266-01331903830- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331844266-01331993699- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331844266-01331993699-01332010686- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01331844266-01331993699-01332020715- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331844266-01331993699-01332020715-01332031694- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332187613- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332187613-01332220880- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941-01332288657- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941-01332288657-01332293598- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941-01332288657-01332293598-01332297389- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941-01332288657-01332293598-01332297389-01332297845- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941-01332288657-01332293598-01332297389-01332297845-01332298272- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941-01332288657-01332293598-01332297389-01332297845-01332298272-01332298373- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941-01332288657-01332293598-01332297389-01332297845-01332298272-01332298373-01332298495- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941-01332590855- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000717.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332207870- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-marketing] Regarding podcasts
+</A><A NAME="666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332214669- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-marketing] Regarding Mageia and social networking sites
+</A><A NAME="667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332214669-01332292189- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332214669-01332292189-01332294774- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332214669-01332292189-01332294774-01332299178- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332214669-01332292189-01332294774-01332299178-01332299757- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332217368- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-marketing] We should attract new/potential contributors
+</A><A NAME="668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332226727- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332226727-01332227085- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332291203- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332291203-01332294053- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332291203-01332294053-01332298051- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332324354- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000687.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332324354-01332338504- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000688.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332324354-01332357315- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000690.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332324354-01332357315-01332360234- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000693.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332324354-01332357315-01332360234-01332360610- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000694.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332324354-01332357315-01332360234-01332360610-01332362305- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000695.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332354435- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000689.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332354435-01332357827- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000691.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332354435-01332357827-01332359428- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000692.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332463863- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000696.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332463863-01332464855- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000697.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332463863-01332464855-01332465445- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000698.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332463863-01332464855-01332465445-01332467916- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000700.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332463863-01332464855-01332465445-01332474131- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000704.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332463863-01332490971- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000705.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332463863-01332490971-01332491498- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000706.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01332463863-01332490971-01332491558- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000707.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332463863-01332490971-01332491558-01332508721- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000708.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332463863-01332490971-01332491558-01332508721-01332532445- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000713.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332463863-01332490971-01332491558-01332508721-01332532445-01332619633- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000718.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332467771- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000699.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332467771-01332470519- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000701.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332467771-01332470519-01332470757- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000702.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332467771-01332470519-01332470757-01332473030- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000703.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01332467771-01332470519-01332523047- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000709.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332467771-01332470519-01332523047-01332524197- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000710.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332467771-01332470519-01332523047-01332524197-01332524731- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000711.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332467771-01332470519-01332523047-01332524709- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000712.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332467771-01332470519-01332523047-01332533621- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000714.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332467771-01332551093- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000715.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332467771-01332551093-01332552590- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000716.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332467771-01332551093-01332552590-01332713269- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000722.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332467771-01332551093-01332552590-01332713269-01332722014- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000723.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332692228- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000719.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332692228-01332706653- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000720.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332692228-01332712962- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000721.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332692228-01332782491- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000730.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000732.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332810722- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000733.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332827038- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000734.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332827038-01332845365- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000737.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332827038-01332845365-01332864954- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000738.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332827038-01332845365-01332864954-01332891278- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000740.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332827038-01332845365-01332864954-01332891278-01332892725- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000741.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332827038-01332845365-01332864954-01332891278-01332925522- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000743.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332827038-01332845365-01332864954-01332891278-01332925522-01332927307- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000745.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332827038-01332845365-01332864954-01332891278-01332925522-01332929972- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000746.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332834678- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000735.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332834678-01332844949- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000736.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332834678-01332844949-01332875651- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000739.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332727770- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000724.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332727770-01332731743- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000726.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332727770-01332731743-01332732983- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000727.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332727770-01332798604- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000731.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332727770-01332959341- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000747.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332727770-01332959341-01332961039- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000748.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332727979- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000725.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332727979-01332749208- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000728.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332727979-01332749208-01332749612- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000729.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332727979-01332984728- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000755.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332727979-01332984728-01332993623- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000757.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332727979-01332984728-01332993623-01333131002- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000772.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332924136- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000742.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332924136-01332925683- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000744.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332963069- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts workspace
+</A><A NAME="749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332966606- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000750.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332966606-01332972452- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000752.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332966606-01332972452-01332975894- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000753.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332966606-01332972452-01332975894-01332984429- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000754.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332966606-01332972452-01332975894-01332988736- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000756.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332966606-01332972452-01332975894-01332988736-01332997295- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000758.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332966606-01332972452-01332975894-01332988736-01332997295-01333050950- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000759.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332966606-01332972452-01332975894-01332988736-01332997295-01333050950-01333057936- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000760.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332966723- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000751.html">[Mageia-marketing] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333075910- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000761.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333075910-01333094342- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000762.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000763.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041-01333106360- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000764.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041-01333106360-01333106834- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000765.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041-01333106360-01333106834-01333106962- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000766.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041-01333111513- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000767.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041-01333111513-01333108230- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000768.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041-01333111513-01333108230-01333109412- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000769.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041-01333111513-01333108230-01333112362- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000770.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041-01333115109- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes">trish at thefrasers.org
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Tue May 1 00:45:36 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi Florian,
+
+&gt;<i> Am 27.04.2012 20:27, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; just wanted to drop a note that Release Notes needs an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; update for the newly added, really beautiful and partly animated
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia E17 themes, made by Agust, which can be seen at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2061">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2061</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I could do a draft, but i'd prefer if that could be done by someone
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; who's more used to marketing'ish / advertising writing stuff,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; because i totally suck at that.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; An important point is that those themes are for now
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; exclusive to Mageia, and created by a Mageia user, who
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; recently joined forces with artwork team, IIRC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Uhmm - ping?
+</I>&gt;<i> As release is approaching, we should get release notes ready.
+</I>
+Thanks for the heads-up - not sure why everyone's gone silent, but I'll
+be getting stuck into this in the next day or two.
+
+&gt;<i> /OT: Are there some mageia shirts left over from previous events?
+</I>
+If there are any, Anne or Oliver might know - they're all in Europe, if
+so.
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Tue May 1 08:43:54 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+hermes up 0 hour(s), 51 min.
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga
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+ <B>Sebastian</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Emails lost yesterday">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com
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+ <I>Wed May 2 04:11:16 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 22/04/12, Patricia Fraser:
+&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hard disk crashed yesterday, so if anyone sent mails to me in the
+</I>&gt;<i> last 24 hours - please resend!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>Hi Trish
+
+I am replying to your email later than I would have done for various
+reasons.
+
+I am having my own hard disk problems at the moment, well partitions
+really. Something wrong with the partition table. I also can't just put
+my data easily on a external hard disk at the moment and start over for
+example.
+
+I could try fixing the partition table, but things are in quite a mess
+let's put it that way, so on the verge of completely starting over.
+It's been over a week now as well with these issues, but for various
+reasons haven't just been able to start over.
+
+I can boot up Windows XP properly, but not a Linux distro, and I can't
+just go and install one again either, so I am stuck using Live CD's at
+the moment or Windows when using this computer, until I move data off
+this computer's hard disk that I want to keep, to some where else, so I
+can completely start over with the partition table.
+
+I could try fixing the partition table, but I am going to completely
+start over.
+
+I think you didn't read a email I sent about Saturday 19th May:
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-marketing/2012-April/000856.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-marketing/2012-April/000856.html</A>
+
+I had this idea to do a time line type talk, how and why I got
+interested in Mageia, how I got involved and when things happened, and
+about Mageia itself, however there isn't really time for all of that in
+only 5 minutes.
+
+I am starting to get some LUG interest in Mageia and that seems to be
+going quite well so far :).
+
+Someone gave me some suggestions for the talk from the LUG as well :).
+For example how every word I say has to be relevant, and basically how I
+should plan for four minutes, then try and cut stuff down as well.
+
+Oliver sent me a slide show of a talk he did about Mageia.
+
+I would like some proper help from Mageia marketing and communications
+team people to plan this talk properly, but also with a slide show, and
+even with the website description, however it seems that quite a few
+people have disappeared on us.
+
+It's a 5 minute talk, and since I am going to be going there to
+officially represent the Mageia project, I want to make sure that I am
+doing so properly. To some extent I will also be representing the LUG I
+guess, because I am down as being from the LUG on the website when it
+comes to the group. So another reason why this talk should be done properly.
+
+The person from the LUG basically suggested that I need to say what
+makes Mageia good when compared to other distros, and well indeed at
+that, but what makes it so good really when compared to other distros?
+
+Obviously when compared to many other distributions the control centre,
+but what else?
+
+I think my talk should basically be, introducing myself as a Mageia
+contributor, introducing Mageia, more information about Mageia such as
+what makes it good for many users, and an ending.
+
+I also plan to put some contact details into the talk itself or at least
+the slide show. For example I would like to tell people that they can
+follow me on Identica a alternative to Twitter where I spread interest
+in Mageia and that mainly has people interested in Linux using it.
+Probably something about IRC channels as well.
+
+I think keywords in the talk should be we and our, because I'll be
+talking officially. I also think I should introduce myself officially.
+Something like: &quot;Good afternoon my name is Sebastian and I am the
+Mageia marketing and communications team deputy leader, and a member of
+the artwork and documentation teams.&quot;
+
+Or something like &quot;Good afternoon my name is Sebastian and I am the
+Mageia marketing and communications team deputy leader, and a member of
+the artwork and documentation teams. I also run Freenode IRC channels
+for the Linux distribution such as Mageia UK and Mageia Social, and help
+to spread interest in Mageia on Identica a open alternative to Twitter
+with mainly Linux users using it.&quot;
+
+Or maybe something like: &quot;Good afternoon my name is Sebastian and I am a
+Linux enthusiast who decided to get involved with Mageia a fork of the
+commercial Mandriva Linux distribution, which goes back to 1998 when it
+was called Mandrake. Mageia is a 100% community distribution, with a non
+profit organisation behind it, and everyone who contributes is a
+volunteer, and I am the Mageia marketing and communications team deputy
+leader, and a member of the artwork and documentation teams. On
+September 18th 2010 it was announced that ex Mandriva employee's and
+other contributors were going to fork Mandriva into Mageia. Mageia 1 was
+released on the 1st of June last year, and our second version was
+released on Tuesday of this week. I also run Freenode IRC network
+channels for the project such as Mageia UK and Mageia Social.&quot;
+
+At the beginning of the talk I think I should introduce myself, say
+what Mageia is and how it's a fork of Mandriva and why it forked, and
+when the announcement of Mageia was and when the first and second
+release was.
+
+There are various ways I could say it's a fork and something about that,
+but how do you think I should do it? Another example is this: &quot;On
+September 18th 2010 it was announced on the Mageia website, that some ex
+Mandriva employee's and other contributors were going to fork Mandriva
+into a 100% community distribution with a non profit organisation behind
+it, because Edge-IT a company working on Mandriva got liquidated and
+many former employee's got laid off as a result.&quot; Remember I only got 5
+minutes and wouldn't really want to say to much about the fork and it
+could use valuable time if I am doing that.
+
+What about FOSDEM and our AGM and that kind of thing? Should I say
+something like this for example? &quot;Mageia goes to events and our main
+event is FOSDEM where our AGM happens as well&quot;. Or something like this
+even? &quot;Mageia has a presence at events and our main event is when
+contributors go to Brussels, because of FOSDEM. We have our AGM at
+FOSDEM for example.&quot;
+
+I think it's a good idea to say something like: &quot;Mageia may still be
+quite a new Linux distribution, but we do have developers who contribute
+to upstream projects, for example our Gnome maintainer is on the
+upstream Gnome release team, and our Pulseaudio maintainer develops it
+upstream.&quot;
+
+I think it may be a good idea to say something about contributing and
+teams, and the council and the board, and how that works, and how each
+year people vote on who they would like to have as the team leader and
+deputy leader, and that kind of thing? In the slide show Oliver sent me
+there's a diagram that tries to explain that, however also one that may
+need some updating if going to be used. Probably should also say in the
+talk that Mageia has a few founders, but maybe add something in about
+them not really having a special status as such as a result, because in
+Mageia we treat people equally? I think the votes system for teams is
+worth mentioning for sure, because I like the idea of mentioning it and
+then saying how as a result it doesn't matter if someone was there from
+the beginning or not, they can join a team and possibly end up leading
+it n the future even, which I think is good.
+
+When it comes to the organisation might be worth saying that it's a
+French non profit organisation, but Mageia is a international project so
+contributors from loads of different countries.
+
+Also when it comes to releases it may be worth saying something like
+&quot;Mageia 1 was released with Gnome 2.32 and KDE 4.6 with XFCE and LXDE
+available in the repos when KDE 4.6 was quite new as well, and Mageia 2
+has a recent Linux kernel and Gnome 3.4 and KDE 4.6 and XFCE and LXDE is
+available in the repos as well.&quot; I think maybe something quick to do
+with that, but nothing to long, since everyone in the audience as far as
+I know won't be using a Desktop Linux distro as their operating system
+of choice, even though the audience in general will be quite technical.
+
+P.S
+
+To anyone who reads this message before Saturday 19th May 2012, please
+provide suggestions for the talk :).
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+ <I>Tue May 8 13:38:45 CEST 2012</I>
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+Because it's so close to release and there's still LOTS to do, we must
+meet this week. So I can be there, I'd like to call it for 09:00 UTC on
+Wednesday 9 May - that will be Wednesday 19:00 in eastern Australia.
+
+Please make every effort to be there!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+I'll be there at the time you suggested.
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+Sebastian
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+(xposted on mageia-webteam and mageia-marketing, I'll track answers on
+both lists)
+
+I'm working on a few changes on the Web site:
+
+ a. (related to below) a new global top navbar, that's consistent
+across all mageia.org; a preview is available here:
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/?testnav=1">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/?testnav=1</A> ; documentation for
+using/spreading it is available here: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/_nav/">http://www.mageia.org/_nav/</A> ;
+improvements brought by this new design:
+ - it's consistent and can be consistently deployed and updated in
+all mageia.org sites and apps (using the javascript snippet);
+ - it embeds the Mageia project logo, so branding is consistent too;
+ - it structures and highlights how the mageia.org Web at large is organized.
+
+ b. (related to above) a more obvious site map, a preview is available
+here: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/fr/map/?testnav=1">http://www.mageia.org/fr/map/?testnav=1</A> ; there are several
+(new) sections here that are not ready/do no exist yet; and parts of
+the existing contents need to be reorganized; but this will give you
+an idea; it's the Community and Contribute sections that need a lot of
+thought and work; the site map is organized in 6 sections:
+ - About Mageia (learning about the project and NPO - that's the
+institutional part of the site)
+ - Downloads (learning about and getting the software, updates, etc.)
+ - Support
+ - Community (what's happening, who is in this project, what are the
+tools at hand)
+ - Contribute (what one can do in the project)
+ - You (one's user account and facilities with Mageia)
+
+ c. as introduced above, a new Community section with its own home
+page (mageia.org/community or shorthand mageia.org/coop or ?): that's
+where contributors and active users will want to go for what's in the
+community, who is there, doing what, and what can be done; this
+section's landing page is to summarize news (blog, planet, calendar),
+activities (forum, bugzilla, buildsystem, teams reports)
+
+ d. change how people get to mageia.org:
+ 1. the home page of www.mageia.org will focus and provide a single
+major call to action: get Mageia; with a few, lower contrast other
+actions (more info, contribute). Preview here:
+<A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/nDlwK.png">http://i.imgur.com/nDlwK.png</A> (not on par with Mageia bg design, I'm
+still not sure how to integrate it properly); the rationale is:
+ - most people coming to www.mageia.org/ leave quickly;
+ - for (most) new/casual visitors, we tell them the main story:
+download and use Mageia;
+ - for other visitors, with a goal, we propose them shortlinks
+to: Support, Community and About Mageia.Org sections
+
+ 2. loading the browser in Mageia currently sends you to
+start.mageia.org which in turn redirects to www.mageia.org; I'd like
+to change that so that start.mageia.org goes to
+www.mageia.org/community/
+ 3. given these changes, in the new navigation bar, clicking on the
+logo/home position would not redirect to the c.1. home (which is
+targetted to fresh/new visitors) neither /community, but to /map which
+provides a large, top-view of what's available in mageia.org Web site.
+That's quite a change from usual navigation practices (although it is
+used sometimes), and I'm not 100% confident yet, but I think it's
+worth trying something a bit different.
+
+
+There's still a lot of improvements in this (and other topic not
+reached here, such as www pages layout in general), and I suspect some
+of the proposed changes above won't make it for some people.
+
+Among other noticeable, shipped changes:
+ - rewritten <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/</A> to better introduce the
+whole section;
+ - added <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/constitution/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/constitution/</A>
+ - consolidated code for <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/reports/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/reports/</A>
+ - consolidated code for the downloads (in the background, still need
+to articulate 1 and 2 pages and listings)
+ - download redirector page
+(<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/get/?q=Mageia-2-rc-i586-DVD.iso&amp;torrent=1&amp;testnav=1">http://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/get/?q=Mageia-2-rc-i586-DVD.iso&amp;torrent=1&amp;testnav=1</A>
+for instance) has room for two major call for action, once the
+download is running (those would be: 1) what to do with the file once
+download is complete, and 2) how to contribute back to the project ?)
+
+Quick feedback welcome, so I can know what can be shipped for 2
+official release or not.
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+<PRE>On 11/05/12 15:45, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> (xposted on mageia-webteam and mageia-marketing, I'll track answers on
+</I>&gt;<i> both lists)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm working on a few changes on the Web site:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> a. (related to below) a new global top navbar, that's consistent
+</I>&gt;<i> across all mageia.org; a preview is available here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/?testnav=1">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/?testnav=1</A>
+</I>Nice idea, but doesn't' look quite right to me, however I assume its
+just a draft preview anyway.
+&gt;<i> ; documentation for
+</I>&gt;<i> using/spreading it is available here: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/_nav/">http://www.mageia.org/_nav/</A> ;
+</I>&gt;<i> improvements brought by this new design:
+</I>&gt;<i> - it's consistent and can be consistently deployed and updated in
+</I>&gt;<i> all mageia.org sites and apps (using the javascript snippet);
+</I>&gt;<i> - it embeds the Mageia project logo, so branding is consistent too;
+</I>&gt;<i> - it structures and highlights how the mageia.org Web at large is organized.
+</I>If I understand correctly the navigation bar is meant to be used by
+other Mageia websites as well not just <A HREF="http://magiea.org">http://magiea.org</A> ?
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> b. (related to above) a more obvious site map, a preview is available
+</I>&gt;<i> here: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/fr/map/?testnav=1">http://www.mageia.org/fr/map/?testnav=1</A>
+</I>Looks good to me :).
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> d. change how people get to mageia.org:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. the home page of www.mageia.org will focus and provide a single
+</I>&gt;<i> major call to action: get Mageia; with a few, lower contrast other
+</I>&gt;<i> actions (more info, contribute). Preview here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/nDlwK.png">http://i.imgur.com/nDlwK.png</A>
+</I>Looks good to me :).
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. loading the browser in Mageia currently sends you to
+</I>&gt;<i> start.mageia.org which in turn redirects to www.mageia.org; I'd like
+</I>&gt;<i> to change that so that start.mageia.org goes to
+</I>&gt;<i> www.mageia.org/community/
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. given these changes, in the new navigation bar, clicking on the
+</I>&gt;<i> logo/home position would not redirect to the c.1. home (which is
+</I>&gt;<i> targetted to fresh/new visitors) neither /community, but to /map which
+</I>&gt;<i> provides a large, top-view of what's available in mageia.org Web site.
+</I>&gt;<i> That's quite a change from usual navigation practices (although it is
+</I>&gt;<i> used sometimes), and I'm not 100% confident yet, but I think it's
+</I>&gt;<i> worth trying something a bit different.
+</I>I think I understand this. A new potential user is likely to start on
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org.">http://mageia.org.</A> Usually when a logo is put on a website as part of
+the design it will link back to the homepage, but instead you would like
+it to link to the map page, which I think makes sense.
+
+Then when people are using Mageia you would like Firefox for example to
+open up a contributing to the community page by default, rather than the
+homepage or map which I think makes sense, because ideally we would want
+loads of our users to contribute to it as well.
+
+I have my own request for the website, please mention Identica on the
+website again, and I would suggest having it link to the Mageia group,
+because I make sure important news gets shown there and so on.
+<A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+
+In fact if you got access to the group settings, can you please make me
+an admin of the group, so that I can clear out fake accounts.
+
+Also can you please upload a better logo, because the one that is
+currently there something is wrong with it apparently.
+
+Also ideally Mageia should have people on all the social networking
+sites where Mageia has a presence taking them seriously promoting
+Mageia, so yep Diaspora really as well, which you should probably also
+mention on the <A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A> website.
+
+Also ideally the <A HREF="http://identi.ca/mageia">http://identi.ca/mageia</A> account should send the news to
+the group. Diaspora with another program can send to Identica, and
+Identica can send directly to Twitter. Then I think Twitter can send to
+Facebook as well some how.
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+<PRE>Hi Romain,
+
+&gt;<i> a. (related to below) a new global top navbar, that's consistent
+</I>&gt;<i> across all mageia.org; a preview is available here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/?testnav=1">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/?testnav=1</A> ; documentation for
+</I>&gt;<i> using/spreading it is available here: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/_nav/">http://www.mageia.org/_nav/</A> ;
+</I>&gt;<i> improvements brought by this new design:
+</I>&gt;<i> - it's consistent and can be consistently deployed and updated in
+</I>&gt;<i> all mageia.org sites and apps (using the javascript snippet);
+</I>&gt;<i> - it embeds the Mageia project logo, so branding is consistent too;
+</I>&gt;<i> - it structures and highlights how the mageia.org Web at large is
+</I>&gt;<i> organized.
+</I>
+I like this much better than the current front page. The only thing I&#180;d
+add is a Blog link on the Navbar, that takes you to the blog page, and
+some additional text up near the top to take visitors to the downloads
+page to get the current release.
+
+I like the site map being linked to the logo on the navbar - what about
+some alt text on the logo so mouseover tells you that&#180;s where it will
+go?
+
+&gt;<i> b. (related to above) a more obvious site map, a preview is available
+</I>&gt;<i> here: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/fr/map/?testnav=1">http://www.mageia.org/fr/map/?testnav=1</A> ; there are several
+</I>&gt;<i> (new) sections here that are not ready/do no exist yet; and parts of
+</I>&gt;<i> the existing contents need to be reorganized; but this will give you
+</I>&gt;<i> an idea; it's the Community and Contribute sections that need a lot of
+</I>&gt;<i> thought and work; the site map is organized in 6 sections:
+</I>&gt;<i> - About Mageia (learning about the project and NPO - that's the
+</I>&gt;<i> institutional part of the site)
+</I>&gt;<i> - Downloads (learning about and getting the software, updates,
+</I>&gt;<i> etc.)
+</I>&gt;<i> - Support
+</I>&gt;<i> - Community (what's happening, who is in this project, what are the
+</I>&gt;<i> tools at hand)
+</I>&gt;<i> - Contribute (what one can do in the project)
+</I>&gt;<i> - You (one's user account and facilities with Mageia)
+</I>
+I&#180;d like to look at this in the next 24 hours, and come back to you
+with more ideas.
+
+&gt;<i> c. as introduced above, a new Community section with its own home
+</I>&gt;<i> page (mageia.org/community or shorthand mageia.org/coop or ?): that's
+</I>&gt;<i> where contributors and active users will want to go for what's in the
+</I>&gt;<i> community, who is there, doing what, and what can be done; this
+</I>&gt;<i> section's landing page is to summarize news (blog, planet, calendar),
+</I>&gt;<i> activities (forum, bugzilla, buildsystem, teams reports)
+</I>
+Do you have anything made up here, or do you want input?
+
+&gt;<i> d. change how people get to mageia.org:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. the home page of www.mageia.org will focus and provide a single
+</I>&gt;<i> major call to action: get Mageia; with a few, lower contrast other
+</I>&gt;<i> actions (more info, contribute). Preview here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/nDlwK.png">http://i.imgur.com/nDlwK.png</A> (not on par with Mageia bg design, I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> still not sure how to integrate it properly); the rationale is:
+</I>&gt;<i> - most people coming to www.mageia.org/ leave quickly;
+</I>&gt;<i> - for (most) new/casual visitors, we tell them the main story:
+</I>&gt;<i> download and use Mageia;
+</I>&gt;<i> - for other visitors, with a goal, we propose them shortlinks
+</I>&gt;<i> to: Support, Community and About Mageia.Org sections
+</I>
+I think the design decision you&#180;ve made here is fine. If it&#180;s too
+similar to the rest of the website, there won&#180;t be any obvious reason
+to have it; it should stand out.
+
+You might add a link to the main site, in that list along the bottom,
+or maybe to the site map.
+
+&gt;<i> 2. loading the browser in Mageia currently sends you to
+</I>&gt;<i> start.mageia.org which in turn redirects to www.mageia.org; I'd like
+</I>&gt;<i> to change that so that start.mageia.org goes to
+</I>&gt;<i> www.mageia.org/community/
+</I>
+Yes!
+
+&gt;<i> 3. given these changes, in the new navigation bar, clicking on the
+</I>&gt;<i> logo/home position would not redirect to the c.1. home (which is
+</I>&gt;<i> targetted to fresh/new visitors) neither /community, but to /map which
+</I>&gt;<i> provides a large, top-view of what's available in mageia.org Web site.
+</I>&gt;<i> That's quite a change from usual navigation practices (although it is
+</I>&gt;<i> used sometimes), and I'm not 100% confident yet, but I think it's
+</I>&gt;<i> worth trying something a bit different.
+</I>
+I&#180;m of your opinion here, and I like it very much; it&#180;s easy to change
+if the feedback is negative. If nobody else objects too strenuously, I
+think it&#180;s worth trying.
+
+&gt;<i> There's still a lot of improvements in this (and other topic not
+</I>&gt;<i> reached here, such as www pages layout in general), and I suspect some
+</I>&gt;<i> of the proposed changes above won't make it for some people.
+</I>
+What we in the marcom team need most is for you to tell us what you
+need us to write - it would be very good to know that ASAP, because
+anything we write should be passed to the i18n team by Wednesday next,
+so they can translate in time for release.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+
+Seb and I have started an Etherpad here:
+<A HREF="http://bn.parinux.org/p/5VmTPqQ5BQ">http://bn.parinux.org/p/5VmTPqQ5BQ</A>
+
+Come on over and add your piece!
+
+Cheers,
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+<PRE>Stormi,
+
+&gt;<i> Just in case it can help you in your task of promoting Mageia 2, here
+</I>&gt;<i> is a link to get a comparison between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * new packages are in green background
+</I>&gt;<i> * updated packages in white background
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/source/1/application/0">http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/source/1/application/0</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This shows source packages. The &quot;show only applications&quot; and &quot;regular
+</I>&gt;<i> packages&quot; led me to some SQL errors I must investigate, so meanwhile
+</I>&gt;<i> I advise to not use them on this page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The group filter should work fine, for example here is the same page
+</I>&gt;<i> for games only:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0/group/78%2C20%2C64%2C10%2C30%2C46%2C74%2C1/source/1">http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0/group/78%2C20%2C64%2C10%2C30%2C46%2C74%2C1/source/1</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (It's still a demo instance for Mageia App Db, it's not running on
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia servers yet)
+</I>
+I am thinking about adding a link to madb in the Blog post for release
+- what do you think?
+
+Cheers!
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+<PRE>On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Sebastian &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;a. (related to below) a new global top navbar, that's consistent
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> across all mageia.org; a preview is available here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/?testnav=1">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/?testnav=1</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nice idea, but doesn't' look quite right to me, however I assume its just a
+</I>&gt;<i> draft preview anyway.
+</I>
+Please be more specific, because it's this very design is planned for
+the release.
+
+&gt;<i> If I understand correctly the navigation bar is meant to be used by other
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia websites as well not just <A HREF="http://magiea.org">http://magiea.org</A> ?
+</I>
+All websites under mageia.org domain at least, yes.
+
+(for the identica thing, could you open a bug? so we can forward it to
+the right person then. I don't have the access and it's not my focus
+right now)
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+<PRE>On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;a. (related to below) a new global top navbar, that's consistent
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> across all mageia.org; a preview is available here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/?testnav=1">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/?testnav=1</A> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I like this much better than the current front page. The only thing I&#180;d
+</I>&gt;<i> add is a Blog link on the Navbar, that takes you to the blog page, and
+</I>&gt;<i> some additional text up near the top to take visitors to the downloads
+</I>&gt;<i> page to get the current release.
+</I>
+Hmmm how would integrate that? the blog/news sub-section is in the
+About and the Community sections.
+
+&gt;<i> I like the site map being linked to the logo on the navbar - what about
+</I>&gt;<i> some alt text on the logo so mouseover tells you that&#180;s where it will
+</I>&gt;<i> go?
+</I>
+Right. Fixed, will be in the next update.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;b. (related to above) a more obvious site map, a preview is available
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/fr/map/?testnav=1">http://www.mageia.org/fr/map/?testnav=1</A> ; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I&#180;d like to look at this in the next 24 hours, and come back to you
+</I>&gt;<i> with more ideas.
+</I>
+Feel free! :-p
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;c. as introduced above, a new Community section with its own home
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> page (mageia.org/community or shorthand mageia.org/coop or ?) [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you have anything made up here, or do you want input?
+</I>
+Just this ... sort of a draft, not ready at all:
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/community/.">http://www.mageia.org/en/community/.</A> I'm dry here for now.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;d. change how people get to mageia.org:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;1. the home page of www.mageia.org will focus and provide a single
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> major call to action: get Mageia; with a few, lower contrast other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> actions (more info, contribute). Preview here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://i.imgur.com/nDlwK.png">http://i.imgur.com/nDlwK.png</A> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You might add a link to the main site, in that list along the bottom,
+</I>&gt;<i> or maybe to the site map.
+</I>
+Right.
+
+&gt;<i> What we in the marcom team need most is for you to tell us what you
+</I>&gt;<i> need us to write - it would be very good to know that ASAP, because
+</I>&gt;<i> anything we write should be passed to the i18n team by Wednesday next,
+</I>&gt;<i> so they can translate in time for release.
+</I>
+For now, unless I remove those:
+ - make sure the very home page texts are ok;
+ - two pages, one for presenting Mageia 2 (and, in general, all
+versions) benefits for desktops, and one for benefits for servers;
+along the models of <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/1/for-you/">http://www.mageia.org/en/1/for-you/</A> but even
+better, of <A HREF="http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/features/">http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/features/</A>
+ - post-download 2 calls to action: how to install/use Mageia + how to
+help/contribute
+ - the support section/pages will need a rewrite, but that's something else;
+ - whatever you feel need to be added.
+
+Romain
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+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &#160;a. (related to below) a new global top navbar, that's consistent
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; across all mageia.org; a preview is available here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/?testnav=1">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/?testnav=1</A> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I like this much better than the current front page. The only thing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I&#180;d add is a Blog link on the Navbar, that takes you to the blog
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; page, and some additional text up near the top to take visitors to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the downloads page to get the current release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmmm how would integrate that? the blog/news sub-section is in the
+</I>&gt;<i> About and the Community sections.
+</I>
+Now that I look at it again, I don't think I'd add the additional text
+- the downloads button is enough, if we're using the new front page.
+
+If we could have alt texts to the navbar buttons, it would reduce the
+need for an extra news or blog button - maybe take the list of links
+from the sitemap, so for Community, you'd have an alt text saying Blog,
+Planet, Calendar, Mail lists... and so on. WDYT?
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; I like the site map being linked to the logo on the navbar - what
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; about some alt text on the logo so mouseover tells you that&#180;s where
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it will go?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Right. Fixed, will be in the next update.
+</I>
+Neat, looks good.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &#160;b. (related to above) a more obvious site map, a preview is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; available here: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/fr/map/?testnav=1">http://www.mageia.org/fr/map/?testnav=1</A> ; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I&#180;d like to look at this in the next 24 hours, and come back to you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with more ideas.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Feel free! :-p
+</I>
+Overall I like it a lot!
+
+There are 2 Mailing List items in the Community section of the sitemap.
+Is there a way (maybe not just now, but at some stage) to integrate the
+mailing list info into a single page so there's a single link?
+
+About You needs some more explanation; the Mageia Identity Management
+page doesn't explain what it's about, so that needs a front page with
+explanations, and then a link from there to MIM. Maybe it all belongs
+under Contribute?
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &#160;c. as introduced above, a new Community section with its own home
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; page (mageia.org/community or shorthand mageia.org/coop or ?) [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Do you have anything made up here, or do you want input?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just this ... sort of a draft, not ready at all:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/community/.">http://www.mageia.org/en/community/.</A> I'm dry here for now.
+</I>
+So, this is the place where Oliver's brain-child will be accessible,
+yes? Link to the wiki page for communities, info about who to contact,
+any applicable forums...?
+
+&gt;<i> For now, unless I remove those:
+</I>&gt;<i> - make sure the very home page texts are ok;
+</I>
+Navbar page looks fine; so does the text on the image for the start
+page.
+
+&gt;<i> - two pages, one for presenting Mageia 2 (and, in general, all
+</I>&gt;<i> versions) benefits for desktops, and one for benefits for servers;
+</I>&gt;<i> along the models of <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/1/for-you/">http://www.mageia.org/en/1/for-you/</A> but even
+</I>&gt;<i> better, of <A HREF="http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/features/">http://www.mandriva.com/en/linux/features/</A>
+</I>
+Ok, it's on the list.
+
+&gt;<i> - post-download 2 calls to action: how to install/use Mageia + how to
+</I>&gt;<i> help/contribute
+</I>&gt;<i> - the support section/pages will need a rewrite, but that's
+</I>&gt;<i> something else;
+</I>&gt;<i> - whatever you feel need to be added.
+</I>
+We'll look at these once the release texts are done.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
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+<PRE>Le lundi 14 mai 2012 12:55:48, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Stormi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Just in case it can help you in your task of promoting Mageia 2, here
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is a link to get a comparison between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * new packages are in green background
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * updated packages in white background
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/source/1/application/0">http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/source/1/application/0</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This shows source packages. The &quot;show only applications&quot; and &quot;regular
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages&quot; led me to some SQL errors I must investigate, so meanwhile
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I advise to not use them on this page.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The group filter should work fine, for example here is the same page
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for games only:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0/group/78%2C20%2">http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0/group/78%2C20%2</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; C64%2C10%2C30%2C46%2C74%2C1/source/1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (It's still a demo instance for Mageia App Db, it's not running on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia servers yet)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am thinking about adding a link to madb in the Blog post for release
+</I>&gt;<i> - what do you think?
+</I>
+It would be good if madb was on mageia.org servers, but right now this is
+only a demo version so I'm not sure we should get users accustomed to the
+current URL.
+
+I sure would like such a highlight on the project, but I'm not sure we're
+ready for it technically either (performance issues, especially on that
+page).
+
+So better copy the result, make it a static page somewhere on wiki or other
+location.
+
+Also, the list of &quot;applications&quot; is not comprehensive, some applications are
+wrongly seen as technical packages currently, so you need the &quot;show all
+packages&quot; filter, which doesn't work on mageia.madb.org currently. I fixed the
+issues that prevented the page from showing when there are many packages on
+a dev instance. It's still slow but at least it works.
+Here is a link: <A HREF="http://dev2.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0">http://dev2.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0</A>
+
+Samuel
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+<PRE>Le mardi 15 mai 2012 09:03:29, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le lundi 14 mai 2012 12:55:48, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Stormi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Just in case it can help you in your task of promoting Mageia 2, here
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; is a link to get a comparison between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; * new packages are in green background
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; * updated packages in white background
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/source/1/application/0">http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/source/1/application/0</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; This shows source packages. The &quot;show only applications&quot; and &quot;regular
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; packages&quot; led me to some SQL errors I must investigate, so meanwhile
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I advise to not use them on this page.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; The group filter should work fine, for example here is the same page
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; for games only:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0/group/78%2C20">http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0/group/78%2C20</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; %2 C64%2C10%2C30%2C46%2C74%2C1/source/1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; (It's still a demo instance for Mageia App Db, it's not running on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Mageia servers yet)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am thinking about adding a link to madb in the Blog post for release
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - what do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It would be good if madb was on mageia.org servers, but right now this is
+</I>&gt;<i> only a demo version so I'm not sure we should get users accustomed to the
+</I>&gt;<i> current URL.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I sure would like such a highlight on the project, but I'm not sure we're
+</I>&gt;<i> ready for it technically either (performance issues, especially on that
+</I>&gt;<i> page).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So better copy the result, make it a static page somewhere on wiki or
+</I>&gt;<i> other location.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, the list of &quot;applications&quot; is not comprehensive, some applications
+</I>&gt;<i> are wrongly seen as technical packages currently, so you need the &quot;show
+</I>&gt;<i> all packages&quot; filter, which doesn't work on mageia.madb.org currently. I
+</I>&gt;<i> fixed the issues that prevented the page from showing when there are
+</I>&gt;<i> many packages on a dev instance. It's still slow but at least it works.
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is a link: <A HREF="http://dev2.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0">http://dev2.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>
+On second thought, I might be able to solve the performance issue with some
+caching, so it the fact that it's a demo instance and not the final one is
+not a blocker, then why not.
+
+Samuel
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+<PRE>Le mardi 15 mai 2012 09:10:48, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le mardi 15 mai 2012 09:03:29, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le lundi 14 mai 2012 12:55:48, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Stormi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Just in case it can help you in your task of promoting Mageia 2,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; here is a link to get a comparison between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; * new packages are in green background
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; * updated packages in white background
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/source/1/application/0">http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/source/1/application/0</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; This shows source packages. The &quot;show only applications&quot; and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;regular packages&quot; led me to some SQL errors I must investigate,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; so meanwhile I advise to not use them on this page.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; The group filter should work fine, for example here is the same
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; page for games only:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0/group/78%2C">http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0/group/78%2C</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 20 %2 C64%2C10%2C30%2C46%2C74%2C1/source/1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; (It's still a demo instance for Mageia App Db, it's not running on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia servers yet)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I am thinking about adding a link to madb in the Blog post for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; release - what do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It would be good if madb was on mageia.org servers, but right now this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is only a demo version so I'm not sure we should get users accustomed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to the current URL.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I sure would like such a highlight on the project, but I'm not sure
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; we're ready for it technically either (performance issues, especially
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on that page).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So better copy the result, make it a static page somewhere on wiki or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; other location.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Also, the list of &quot;applications&quot; is not comprehensive, some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; applications are wrongly seen as technical packages currently, so you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; need the &quot;show all packages&quot; filter, which doesn't work on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia.madb.org currently. I fixed the issues that prevented the page
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; from showing when there are many packages on a dev instance. It's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; still slow but at least it works. Here is a link:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://dev2.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0">http://dev2.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On second thought, I might be able to solve the performance issue with
+</I>&gt;<i> some caching, so it the fact that it's a demo instance and not the final
+</I>&gt;<i> one is not a blocker, then why not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+And I can make the list of applications really comprehensive rather easily.
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:40 AM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> If we could have alt texts to the navbar buttons, it would reduce the
+</I>&gt;<i> need for an extra news or blog button - maybe take the list of links
+</I>&gt;<i> from the sitemap, so for Community, you'd have an alt text saying Blog,
+</I>&gt;<i> Planet, Calendar, Mail lists... and so on. WDYT?
+</I>
+Not sure, will try this tomorrow.
+
+&gt;<i> There are 2 Mailing List items in the Community section of the sitemap.
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there a way (maybe not just now, but at some stage) to integrate the
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing list info into a single page so there's a single link?
+</I>
+I believe so, but that's more in sysadmin basket.
+
+&gt;<i> About You needs some more explanation; the Mageia Identity Management
+</I>&gt;<i> page doesn't explain what it's about, so that needs a front page with
+</I>&gt;<i> explanations,
+</I>
+This can be on the very landing page of identity.m.o actually; it
+needs some work (contributions/ideas welcome).
+
+&gt;<i> Maybe it all belongs under Contribute?
+</I>
+What belongs there? The whole &quot;You&quot; section is of interest when we
+build on the identity.m.o or a directory of contributors (who does
+what, what teams/groups are there, doing what, etc.).
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/community/.">http://www.mageia.org/en/community/.</A> I'm dry here for now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, this is the place where Oliver's brain-child will be accessible,
+</I>&gt;<i> yes? Link to the wiki page for communities, info about who to contact,
+</I>&gt;<i> any applicable forums...?
+</I>
+Yes.
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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+<PRE>Le mardi 15 mai 2012 09:12:15, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le mardi 15 mai 2012 09:10:48, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le mardi 15 mai 2012 09:03:29, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Le lundi 14 mai 2012 12:55:48, Patricia Fraser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Stormi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Just in case it can help you in your task of promoting Mageia 2,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; here is a link to get a comparison between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * new packages are in green background
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * updated packages in white background
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/source/1/application/0">http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/source/1/application/0</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; This shows source packages. The &quot;show only applications&quot; and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;regular packages&quot; led me to some SQL errors I must investigate,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; so meanwhile I advise to not use them on this page.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The group filter should work fine, for example here is the same
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; page for games only:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0/group/78%2C">http://mageia.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0/group/78%2C</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 20 %2 C64%2C10%2C30%2C46%2C74%2C1/source/1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; (It's still a demo instance for Mageia App Db, it's not running on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia servers yet)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; I am thinking about adding a link to madb in the Blog post for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; release - what do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; It would be good if madb was on mageia.org servers, but right now this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; is only a demo version so I'm not sure we should get users accustomed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; to the current URL.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I sure would like such a highlight on the project, but I'm not sure
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; we're ready for it technically either (performance issues, especially
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; on that page).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; So better copy the result, make it a static page somewhere on wiki or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; other location.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Also, the list of &quot;applications&quot; is not comprehensive, some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; applications are wrongly seen as technical packages currently, so you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; need the &quot;show all packages&quot; filter, which doesn't work on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; mageia.madb.org currently. I fixed the issues that prevented the page
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; from showing when there are many packages on a dev instance. It's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; still slow but at least it works. Here is a link:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://dev2.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0">http://dev2.madb.org/package/comparison/application/0</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On second thought, I might be able to solve the performance issue with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; some caching, so it the fact that it's a demo instance and not the final
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; one is not a blocker, then why not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And I can make the list of applications really comprehensive rather easily.
+</I>
+Ok, I added cache, which was long due and really improves performances, so I'm
+rather confident about it now. It's not propagated yet to mageia.madb.org but
+it will in the coming days. I'll update the applications list.
+
+Samuel
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+ <I>Wed May 16 15:44:05 CEST 2012</I>
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+
+Please check both the Etherpad <A HREF="http://bn.parinux.org/p/5VmTPqQ5BQ">http://bn.parinux.org/p/5VmTPqQ5BQ</A> and
+the Sandbox <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_sandbox.">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_sandbox.</A>
+
+Proposed texts are in place for the blog post and for the press
+release; texts for the website will follow.
+
+These texts must go to i18n tomorrow - please check and edit/add
+suggestions on the Etherpad, leaving the current version on the
+Sandbox.
+
+PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THE SANDBOX - it's our check version in case we
+need to revert anything changed on the Etherpad.
+
+I'd really appreciate any time you can give to help - it needs many eyes on it
+to make sure it's as good as it can be.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+to add.
+
+On 16 May 2012 14:44, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+Hi all,
+
+Please check both the Etherpad <A HREF="http://bn.parinux.org/p/5VmTPqQ5BQ">http://bn.parinux.org/p/5VmTPqQ5BQ</A> and
+the Sandbox <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_sandbox.">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_sandbox.</A>
+
+Proposed texts are in place for the blog post and for the press
+release; texts for the website will follow.
+
+These texts must go to i18n tomorrow - please check and edit/add
+suggestions on the Etherpad, leaving the current version on the
+Sandbox.
+
+PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THE SANDBOX - it's our check version in case we
+need to revert anything changed on the Etherpad.
+
+I'd really appreciate any time you can give to help - it needs many eyes on
+it
+to make sure it's as good as it can be.
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Wed May 16 23:40:10 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+hermes up 9 hour(s), 50 min.
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+I saw this post on the forum:
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428</A>
+It looks like while we weren't looking someone decided that there aren't
+enough external resources devoted to Mageia to warrant a full page on
+Wikipedia.
+Now I know that that isn't true. There have been many articles, blog posts
+and discussions about Mageia, some of them even on reliable and respected
+websites.
+I think that the Marcom team should collect a list of all Mageia-related
+articles and blog posts. Many of them have been referenced on the forum.
+Then take this list and wave it in the faces of the Wikipedia Powers That
+Be and ask nicely, then demand, that they undelete the page.
+Seriously. Right before we release a new version is not a good time for our
+Wikipedia page to be deleted.
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+<PRE>Hi Max,
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+&gt;<i> Hi guys
+</I>&gt;<i> I saw this post on the forum:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> It looks like while we weren't looking someone decided that there
+</I>&gt;<i> aren't enough external resources devoted to Mageia to warrant a full
+</I>&gt;<i> page on Wikipedia.
+</I>&gt;<i> Now I know that that isn't true. There have been many articles, blog
+</I>&gt;<i> posts and discussions about Mageia, some of them even on reliable and
+</I>&gt;<i> respected websites.
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that the Marcom team should collect a list of all
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-related articles and blog posts. Many of them have been
+</I>&gt;<i> referenced on the forum. Then take this list and wave it in the faces
+</I>&gt;<i> of the Wikipedia Powers That Be and ask nicely, then demand, that
+</I>&gt;<i> they undelete the page. Seriously. Right before we release a new
+</I>&gt;<i> version is not a good time for our Wikipedia page to be deleted.
+</I>
+I think it's unlikely that we'll get it undeleted, but we can try for a
+new Mageia page; I'm on it.
+
+The ES and PL versions are still up on their respective Wikipediae, so
+I'll check them for content.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+
+On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I think it's unlikely that we'll get it undeleted, but we can try for a
+</I>&gt;<i> new Mageia page; I'm on it.
+</I>
+&gt;<i>From the discussion and deletion decision, recreating it is completely
+</I>open. Funny things is, it's been 3 votes for deletion, 2 against, so
+it's not like it's a big deal either, it's been only one person needed
+to make it go - and Mageia pages in other languages are not much
+different either.
+
+But, for the new page, sources will be needed to sustain each stance,
+and - I'm not sure how this can be included, maybe as
+sources/references actually - hints to existing coverage (relevant,
+independant articles and reviews) will be needed.
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+
+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think it's unlikely that we'll get it undeleted, but we can try for a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; new Mageia page; I'm on it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;From the discussion and deletion decision, recreating it is completely
+</I>&gt;<i> open. Funny things is, it's been 3 votes for deletion, 2 against, so
+</I>&gt;<i> it's not like it's a big deal either, it's been only one person needed
+</I>&gt;<i> to make it go - and Mageia pages in other languages are not much
+</I>&gt;<i> different either.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But, for the new page, sources will be needed to sustain each stance,
+</I>&gt;<i> and - I'm not sure how this can be included, maybe as
+</I>&gt;<i> sources/references actually - hints to existing coverage (relevant,
+</I>&gt;<i> independant articles and reviews) will be needed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yeah. I don't think we can quote our own site as a good source.
+The 'about' Mageia on Distrowatch is pretty OK.
+Here are a couple of articles I remember seeing, there are probably more.
+<A HREF="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html</A>
+<A HREF="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</A>
+
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+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I think it's unlikely that we'll get it undeleted, but we can try for a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; new Mageia page; I'm on it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;From the discussion and deletion decision, recreating it is completely
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> open. Funny things is, it's been 3 votes for deletion, 2 against, so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it's not like it's a big deal either, it's been only one person needed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to make it go - and Mageia pages in other languages are not much
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> different either.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But, for the new page, sources will be needed to sustain each stance,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and - I'm not sure how this can be included, maybe as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sources/references actually - hints to existing coverage (relevant,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> independant articles and reviews) will be needed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah. I don't think we can quote our own site as a good source.
+</I>&gt;<i> The 'about' Mageia on Distrowatch is pretty OK.
+</I>&gt;<i> Here are a couple of articles I remember seeing, there are probably more.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+A quick Google search also turned up these gems:
+<A HREF="http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1">http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html">http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html</A>
+
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+<PRE>Hello everybody,
+
+As the suggestion of Patricia and Marja, I subscribed to this list.
+
+I'm here to know how I can help on this subject, and specifically to discuss how
+to help the situation about of the wikipedia page of mageia which was recently
+excluded.
+
+The page of Mageia in wkipedia (in english) has been deleted in May 13, 2012.
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia</A>
+
+The report of the decision here:
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mageia">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mageia</A>
+
+I mentioned this in the F&#243;rum Mageia, topic &quot;Re: mageia information
+(wikipedia):&quot;
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428#p18065">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428#p18065</A>
+
+I'm worried because many people will look for information about mageia next
+week, when the Mageia 2 is released, and I really like the wikipedia and I think
+an important source of information for everyone who wants to learn more about
+Mageia,
+
+I suggest create a page &quot;Mageia 2 Press&quot; in Mageia Wiki: (
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Mageia_2">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Mageia_2</A> ) and I would like request the
+reactivation of the page mageia in wikipedia.
+
+There are two pages with news about mageia:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Archive:Initial_press_release_on_the_Mageia_fork">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Archive:Initial_press_release_on_the_Mageia_fork</A>
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia1_Press">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia1_Press</A>
+
+In category of the &quot;press&quot;:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Press">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Press</A>
+
+I think it is necessary to create a page about Mageia2_Press, or Mageia_2_Press.
+
+As As the suggestion of Romain:
+
+Em sex 18 mai 2012, &#224;s 09:59:10, Romain d'Alverny escreveu:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Macxi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">terraagua at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think it is necessary to create a category &quot;Press&quot; and create a page
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; about Mageia2_Press
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just added the category. For the page, name it &quot;Mageia 2 Press&quot; or
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia 2 Press Review&quot; (with a space before the version).
+</I>
+Cheers
+Macxi
+
+Re: Welcome, and feel free to introduce yourself
+Postby macxi &#187; May 24th, '11, 21:50
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=15&amp;start=100#p1907">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=15&amp;start=100#p1907</A>
+
+***********************
+
+On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Max Quarterpleen &lt;bogusman222 at
+gmail.com&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;rda at mageia.org&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;trish at thefrasers.org&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I think it's unlikely that we'll get it undeleted, but we can try for a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; new Mageia page; I'm on it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;From the discussion and deletion decision, recreating it is completely
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> open. Funny things is, it's been 3 votes for deletion, 2 against, so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it's not like it's a big deal either, it's been only one person needed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to make it go - and Mageia pages in other languages are not much
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> different either.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But, for the new page, sources will be needed to sustain each stance,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and - I'm not sure how this can be included, maybe as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sources/references actually - hints to existing coverage (relevant,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> independant articles and reviews) will be needed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah. I don't think we can quote our own site as a good source.
+</I>&gt;<i> The 'about' Mageia on Distrowatch is pretty OK.
+</I>&gt;<i> Here are a couple of articles I remember seeing, there are probably more.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+A quick Google search also turned up these gems:
+<A HREF="http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1">http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html">http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html</A>
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+<PRE>Hello everybody,
+
+As the suggestion of Patricia and Marja, I subscribed to this list.
+
+I'm here to know how I can help on this subject, and specifically to discuss how
+to help the situation about of the wikipedia page of mageia which was recently
+excluded.
+
+The page of Mageia in wkipedia (in english) has been deleted in May 13, 2012.
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia</A>
+
+The report of the decision here:
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mageia">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mageia</A>
+
+I mentioned this in the F&#243;rum Mageia, topic &quot;Re: mageia information
+(wikipedia):&quot;
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428#p18065">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428#p18065</A>
+
+I'm worried because many people will look for information about mageia next
+week, when the Mageia 2 is released, and I really like the wikipedia and I think
+an important source of information for everyone who wants to learn more about
+Mageia,
+
+I suggest create a page &quot;Mageia 2 Press&quot; in Mageia Wiki: (
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Mageia_2">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Mageia_2</A> ) and I would like request the
+reactivation of the page mageia in wikipedia.
+
+There are two pages with news about mageia:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Archive:Initial_press_release_on_the_Mageia_fork">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Archive:Initial_press_release_on_the_Mageia_fork</A>
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia1_Press">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia1_Press</A>
+
+In category of the &quot;press&quot;:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Press">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Press</A>
+
+I think it is necessary to create a page about Mageia2_Press, or Mageia_2_Press.
+
+As As the suggestion of Romain:
+
+Em sex 18 mai 2012, &#224;s 09:59:10, Romain d'Alverny escreveu:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Macxi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">terraagua at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think it is necessary to create a category &quot;Press&quot; and create a page
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; about Mageia2_Press
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just added the category. For the page, name it &quot;Mageia 2 Press&quot; or
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia 2 Press Review&quot; (with a space before the version).
+</I>
+Cheers
+Macxi
+
+Re: Welcome, and feel free to introduce yourself
+Postby macxi &#187; May 24th, '11, 21:50
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=15&amp;start=100#p1907">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=15&amp;start=100#p1907</A>
+
+***********************
+
+On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Max Quarterpleen &lt;bogusman222 at
+gmail.com&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;rda at mageia.org&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;trish at thefrasers.org&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I think it's unlikely that we'll get it undeleted, but we can try for a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; new Mageia page; I'm on it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;From the discussion and deletion decision, recreating it is completely
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> open. Funny things is, it's been 3 votes for deletion, 2 against, so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it's not like it's a big deal either, it's been only one person needed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to make it go - and Mageia pages in other languages are not much
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> different either.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But, for the new page, sources will be needed to sustain each stance,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and - I'm not sure how this can be included, maybe as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sources/references actually - hints to existing coverage (relevant,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> independant articles and reviews) will be needed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah. I don't think we can quote our own site as a good source.
+</I>&gt;<i> The 'about' Mageia on Distrowatch is pretty OK.
+</I>&gt;<i> Here are a couple of articles I remember seeing, there are probably more.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>A quick Google search also turned up these gems:
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1">http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1</A>
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html">http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html</A>
+</I>
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Macxi,
+
+&gt;<i> As the suggestion of Patricia and Marja, I subscribed to this list.
+</I>
+Welcome!
+
+&gt;<i> I'm here to know how I can help on this subject, and specifically to
+</I>&gt;<i> discuss how to help the situation about of the wikipedia page of
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia which was recently excluded.
+</I>
+We need to make a new one, and I&#180;ve begun one as a private page but
+haven&#180;t got any material on it yet; so if you&#180;ve got a Wikipedia login
+and you have time to do it, we can all work with you.
+
+Thanks for creating the Press page - this is for putting links to
+reviews and articles, yes?
+
+We have a space on the Marcom page for links to press so we can send
+out press releases about Mageia 2; you could maybe take a look at that
+list and see if you can suggest some more?
+
+For the Wikipedia page, here are some links (you probably already have):
+
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1">http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html">http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html</A>
+</I>
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
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+<PRE>Patricia,
+
+Thanks for the welcome.
+
+Before, I apologize for broken threads. I configured wrong when I subscrevei
+marcom list so I have not received your email this. I'm answering this because I
+copied from the internet:
+
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-marketing/2012-May/000890.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-marketing/2012-May/000890.html</A>
+
+Yes, you can create the page again, but if you like before, it will be deleted
+again.
+
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review</A>
+
+I saw the page Mageia (en) which was deleted in googlecach and I saved it on my
+computer and it helps give an idea of &#8203;&#8203;how to modify and improve the deleted
+page.
+
+I make available a copy of it through a link from the dropbox:
+
+<A HREF="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1220932/mg/wikipedia/Mageia-EN-wikipedia.html">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1220932/mg/wikipedia/Mageia-EN-wikipedia.html</A>
+
+I re-edited the text of the deleted page.
+I can copy this text there and create the page again, but someone has to help
+edit it to get better, to prevent it is not deleted again.
+
+It is necessary to correct the &quot;reference notes&quot; in the text, which are
+disabled, I could not because I do not know how
+
+Cheers
+Macxi
+
+*******************************************
+
+
+
+{{Infobox OS|
+|<i> name = Mageia
+</I>|<i> logo = [[Image:Mageia Logo.png|150px|Mageia Logo]]
+</I>|<i> screenshot = [[Image:Mageia_1.png|250px|Mageia 1 Desktop]]
+</I>|<i> caption = Screenshot of Mageia 1 with KDE SC 4.6
+</I>|<i> developer = Mageia.org
+</I>|<i> family = [[Unix-like]]
+</I>|<i> working_state = Current
+</I>|<i> source_model = [[Free_and_open_source_software|Free and open source software]]
+</I>|<i> latest_release_version = Mageia 1
+</I>|<i> latest_release_date = 1 June 2011
+</I>|<i> latest_preview_version = Mageia 2 RC
+</I>|<i> latest_preview_date = 9 May 2012
+</I>|<i> kernel_type = [[Monolithic kernel|Monolithic]] ([[linux]])
+</I>|<i> ui = [[KDE_Plasma_Workspaces]] / [[GNOME]]
+</I>|<i> language = Multilingual 1
+</I>|<i> updatemodel = [[Urpmi]]
+</I>|<i> package_manager = RPM
+</I>|<i> userland = GNU
+</I>|<i> license = [[GNU GPL]] &amp; Various others
+</I>|<i> website = <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>}}
+
+
+Mageia is the name of a non-profit organization and Linux distribution that was
+founded in 2010. The Mageia organization manages and coordinates the
+distribution, code and software hosting and distribution, builds system, and
+carries out marketing, fosters communication and events. [3] [4]
+
+The first release of the software distribution, Mageia 1, took place in June
+2011.[3]
+
+According to DistroWatch, Mageia is the 7th most visited Linux-based operating
+system on their site as of April 2012 and it is the third most visited RPM-based
+Linux distribution behind Fedora and openSUSE.[5]
+
+
+== History ==
+
+On 18 September 2010, a group of former Mandriva employees and community
+supporters announced that Mandriva Linux was being forked and a new community-
+driven distribution would be created, called Mageia.[4] This action followed the
+dismissal of most employees working on the Mandriva distribution when the
+Mandriva-owned company Edge-IT was liquidated. The group explained that they &quot;do
+not want to be dependent on the economic fluctuations and erratic, unexplained
+strategic moves of the company&quot;.
+
+== Versions ==
+
+Mageia is released on a 9-month release cycle and each release is supported for
+18 months.[6]
+=== Latest version ===
+
+The latest stable version is Mageia 1, released in June 2011.
+
+=== Development version ===
+
+The development version of Mageia is known as Cauldron and is what becomes the
+next release of Mageia.[7]
+
+== Goals ==
+
+The following goals were listed in the organization's announcement on 18
+September 2010:[4]
+
+ Make Linux and Free and Open Source Software straightforward to use for
+everyone;
+ Provide integrated system configuration tools;
+ Keep a high-level of integration between the base system, the desktop (KDE,
+GNOME, etc.) and applications; especially improve third-parties (be it free or
+proprietary software) integration;
+ Target new architectures and form-factors; and
+ Improve understanding of computers and electronics devices users.
+
+== Name ==
+
+The term &quot;mageia&quot; &#8212; &#956;&#945;&#947;&#949;&#943;&#945; in Greek &#8212; means &quot;magic&quot; in English. It is a
+reference to Mandrake (the magician), the original name of the Mandriva
+distribution (Mandrake Linux).[8]
+
+== References ==
+
+ ^ [<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Archive:Mageia_1_supported_locales">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Archive:Mageia_1_supported_locales</A>
+&quot;Archive:Mageia 1 supported locales] - Mageia wiki&quot;. Wiki.mageia.org. Retrieved
+2012-04-20.
+ ^
+[<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_1_Release_Notes#CLI_Package_Management_Tools">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_1_Release_Notes#CLI_Package_Management_Tools</A>
+&quot;Mageia 1 Release Notes - Mageia wiki&quot;]. Wiki.mageia.org. Retrieved 2012-04-20.
+ ^ [<A HREF="http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mageia">http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mageia</A> a b
+&quot;DistroWatch.com: Mageia&quot;]. 2012-04-29. Retrieved 2012-04-29.
+ ^ [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/2010-sept-announcement.html">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/2010-sept-announcement.html</A> a b c &quot;A New
+Linux Distribution&quot;.] Mageia. 2010-09-18. Retrieved 2012-04-20.
+ ^ [<A HREF="http://distrowatch.com/">http://distrowatch.com/</A> &quot;DistroWatch&quot;]. Retrieved 2012-04-20.
+ ^ [<A HREF="http://www.muktware.com/blogs/1878">http://www.muktware.com/blogs/1878</A> &quot;Mageia Goes For 9 Month Release
+Cycle&quot;]. 2011-07-18. Retrieved 2012-04-20.
+ ^ [<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cauldron">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cauldron</A> &quot;Cauldron - Mageia wiki&quot;]. Retrieved
+2012-04-20.
+ ^ [<A HREF="http://www.waybeta.com/news/85180/mandriva-linux-bifurcation-mageia-">http://www.waybeta.com/news/85180/mandriva-linux-bifurcation-mageia-</A>
+project-released-the-first-alpha-version-of-_mandriva-linux/ &quot;Mandriva Linux
+bifurcation Mageia project released the first Alpha version of _Mandriva Linux&quot;].
+waybeta. Retrieved 2012-04-20.
+
+== See also ==
+
+Portal icon Free Software portal
+
+ [<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandriva_Linux">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandriva_Linux</A> Mandriva Linux] distribution
+ [<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandriva">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandriva</A> Mandriva, SA] (corporation)
+ [<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCLinuxOS">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCLinuxOS</A> PCLinuxOS] &#8212; another Linux
+Distribution based on Mandriva Linux
+ [<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_Linux">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_Linux</A> Unity Linux] &#8212; a Mandriva-based
+distribution designed to be a base for end user distributions.
+
+== External links ==
+
+ [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> Official website]
+ [<A HREF="http://wiki.mageia.org/">http://wiki.mageia.org/</A> Mageia Wiki]
+ [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/</A> Mailing lists]
+
+
+**************************************************************
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>Hi Macxi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As the suggestion of Patricia and Marja, I subscribed to this list.
+</I>&gt;<i>Welcome!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm here to know how I can help on this subject, and specifically to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> discuss how to help the situation about of the wikipedia page of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia which was recently excluded.
+</I>
+&gt;<i>We need to make a new one, and I&#180;ve begun one as a private page but
+</I>&gt;<i>haven&#180;t got any material on it yet; so if you&#180;ve got a Wikipedia login
+</I>&gt;<i>and you have time to do it, we can all work with you.
+</I>
+&gt;<i>Thanks for creating the Press page - this is for putting links to
+</I>&gt;<i>reviews and articles, yes?
+</I>
+&gt;<i>We have a space on the Marcom page for links to press so we can send
+</I>&gt;<i>out press releases about Mageia 2; you could maybe take a look at that
+</I>&gt;<i>list and see if you can suggest some more?
+</I>
+&gt;<i>For the Wikipedia page, here are some links (you probably already have):
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1">http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I><A HREF="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html">http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html</A>
+
+
+&gt;<i>Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>--
+</I>&gt;<i>Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+</I>&gt;<i>-35.67896, 142.66637
+</I>&gt;<i>GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 linuxcounter.net
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+Em sex 18 mai 2012, &#224;s 10:56:11, Macxi escreveu:
+&gt;<i> Hello everybody,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As the suggestion of Patricia and Marja, I subscribed to this list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm here to know how I can help on this subject, and specifically to
+</I>&gt;<i> discuss how to help the situation about of the wikipedia page of mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> which was recently excluded.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The page of Mageia in wkipedia (in english) has been deleted in May 13,
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012. <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The report of the decision here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mageia">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I mentioned this in the F&#243;rum Mageia, topic &quot;Re: mageia information
+</I>&gt;<i> (wikipedia):&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428#p18065">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428#p18065</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm worried because many people will look for information about mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> next week, when the Mageia 2 is released, and I really like the wikipedia
+</I>&gt;<i> and I think an important source of information for everyone who wants to
+</I>&gt;<i> learn more about Mageia,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suggest create a page &quot;Mageia 2 Press&quot; in Mageia Wiki: (
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Mageia_2">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Mageia_2</A> ) and I would like request the
+</I>&gt;<i> reactivation of the page mageia in wikipedia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are two pages with news about mageia:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Archive:Initial_press_release_on_the_Mageia_fork">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Archive:Initial_press_release_on_the_Mageia_fork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia1_Press">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia1_Press</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In category of the &quot;press&quot;:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Press">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Press</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it is necessary to create a page about Mageia2_Press, or
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia_2_Press.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As As the suggestion of Romain:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Em sex 18 mai 2012, &#224;s 09:59:10, Romain d'Alverny escreveu:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Macxi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">terraagua at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I think it is necessary to create a category &quot;Press&quot; and create a page
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; about Mageia2_Press
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Just added the category. For the page, name it &quot;Mageia 2 Press&quot; or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;Mageia 2 Press Review&quot; (with a space before the version).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> Macxi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Re: Welcome, and feel free to introduce yourself
+</I>&gt;<i> Postby macxi &#187; May 24th, '11, 21:50
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=15&amp;start=100#p1907">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=15&amp;start=100#p1907</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ***********************
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Max Quarterpleen &lt;bogusman222 at
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> gmail.com&gt;wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;rda at mageia.org&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;trish at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; thefrasers.org&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; I think it's unlikely that we'll get it undeleted, but we can try for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; a new Mageia page; I'm on it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;From the discussion and deletion decision, recreating it is completely
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; open. Funny things is, it's been 3 votes for deletion, 2 against, so
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; it's not like it's a big deal either, it's been only one person needed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to make it go - and Mageia pages in other languages are not much
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; different either.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; But, for the new page, sources will be needed to sustain each stance,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; and - I'm not sure how this can be included, maybe as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; sources/references actually - hints to existing coverage (relevant,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; independant articles and reviews) will be needed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yeah. I don't think we can quote our own site as a good source.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The 'about' Mageia on Distrowatch is pretty OK.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Here are a couple of articles I remember seeing, there are probably more.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; html <A HREF="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;A quick Google search also turned up these gems:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;<A HREF="http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1">http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;<A HREF="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_comi">http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_comi</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;ng_in_mageia_linux_20.html
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> *******************************
+</I></PRE>
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+ <B>Macxi</B>
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+<PRE>Patricia,
+
+I understood how the references are made.
+Now just arrange the text and references and edit the text better.
+
+code
+
+&lt;ref&gt;{{cite news |last=????? |first=????? |title=????? |date=????? |
+url=?????????????? |accessdate=?????}}&lt;/ref&gt;
+
+example:
+
+Mageia is the name of Linux distribution created in 2010 as a fork of
+[[Mandriva_Linux|Mandriva]] distribution. by a non-profit organization
+
+&lt;ref&gt;{{cite news |last=Mageia |first=Organization |title=Mageia.Org constitution
+|<i>date=2010 |url=<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/constitution/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/constitution/</A> |accessdate=19-
+</I>may-2012}}&lt;/ref&gt;
+ that was founded in 2010. The Mageia organization manages and coordinates the
+distribution, code and software hosting and distribution, builds system, and
+carries out marketing, fosters communication and events.
+
+The reference is within the text and displayed a note number and the text and
+links will appear below, in the topic References
+
+Cheers
+Macxi
+
+
+Em s&#225;b 19 mai 2012, &#224;s 09:28:26, Macxi escreveu:
+&gt;<i> Patricia,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for the welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Before, I apologize for broken threads. I configured wrong when I
+</I>&gt;<i> subscrevei marcom list so I have not received your email this. I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> answering this because I copied from the internet:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-marketing/2012-May/000890.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-marketing/2012-May/000890.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, you can create the page again, but if you like before, it will be
+</I>&gt;<i> deleted again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I saw the page Mageia (en) which was deleted in googlecach and I saved it
+</I>&gt;<i> on my computer and it helps give an idea of &#8203;&#8203;how to modify and improve
+</I>&gt;<i> the deleted page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I make available a copy of it through a link from the dropbox:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1220932/mg/wikipedia/Mageia-EN-wikipedia.html">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1220932/mg/wikipedia/Mageia-EN-wikipedia.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I re-edited the text of the deleted page.
+</I>&gt;<i> I can copy this text there and create the page again, but someone has to
+</I>&gt;<i> help edit it to get better, to prevent it is not deleted again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is necessary to correct the &quot;reference notes&quot; in the text, which are
+</I>&gt;<i> disabled, I could not because I do not know how
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> Macxi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> *******************************************
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> {{Infobox OS|
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> | name = Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> | logo = [[Image:Mageia Logo.png|150px|Mageia Logo]]
+</I>&gt;<i> | screenshot = [[Image:Mageia_1.png|250px|Mageia 1 Desktop]]
+</I>&gt;<i> | caption = Screenshot of Mageia 1 with KDE SC 4.6
+</I>&gt;<i> | developer = Mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> | family = [[Unix-like]]
+</I>&gt;<i> | working_state = Current
+</I>&gt;<i> | source_model = [[Free_and_open_source_software|Free and open source
+</I>&gt;<i> | software]] latest_release_version = Mageia 1
+</I>&gt;<i> | latest_release_date = 1 June 2011
+</I>&gt;<i> | latest_preview_version = Mageia 2 RC
+</I>&gt;<i> | latest_preview_date = 9 May 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> | kernel_type = [[Monolithic kernel|Monolithic]] ([[linux]])
+</I>&gt;<i> | ui = [[KDE_Plasma_Workspaces]] / [[GNOME]]
+</I>&gt;<i> | language = Multilingual 1
+</I>&gt;<i> | updatemodel = [[Urpmi]]
+</I>&gt;<i> | package_manager = RPM
+</I>&gt;<i> | userland = GNU
+</I>&gt;<i> | license = [[GNU GPL]] &amp; Various others
+</I>&gt;<i> | website = <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> }}
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia is the name of a non-profit organization and Linux distribution that
+</I>&gt;<i> was founded in 2010. The Mageia organization manages and coordinates the
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution, code and software hosting and distribution, builds system,
+</I>&gt;<i> and carries out marketing, fosters communication and events. [3] [4]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The first release of the software distribution, Mageia 1, took place in
+</I>&gt;<i> June 2011.[3]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> According to DistroWatch, Mageia is the 7th most visited Linux-based
+</I>&gt;<i> operating system on their site as of April 2012 and it is the third most
+</I>&gt;<i> visited RPM-based Linux distribution behind Fedora and openSUSE.[5]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> == History ==
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 18 September 2010, a group of former Mandriva employees and community
+</I>&gt;<i> supporters announced that Mandriva Linux was being forked and a new
+</I>&gt;<i> community- driven distribution would be created, called Mageia.[4] This
+</I>&gt;<i> action followed the dismissal of most employees working on the Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution when the Mandriva-owned company Edge-IT was liquidated. The
+</I>&gt;<i> group explained that they &quot;do not want to be dependent on the economic
+</I>&gt;<i> fluctuations and erratic, unexplained strategic moves of the company&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> == Versions ==
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia is released on a 9-month release cycle and each release is supported
+</I>&gt;<i> for 18 months.[6]
+</I>&gt;<i> === Latest version ===
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The latest stable version is Mageia 1, released in June 2011.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> === Development version ===
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The development version of Mageia is known as Cauldron and is what becomes
+</I>&gt;<i> the next release of Mageia.[7]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> == Goals ==
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The following goals were listed in the organization's announcement on 18
+</I>&gt;<i> September 2010:[4]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Make Linux and Free and Open Source Software straightforward to use for
+</I>&gt;<i> everyone;
+</I>&gt;<i> Provide integrated system configuration tools;
+</I>&gt;<i> Keep a high-level of integration between the base system, the desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> (KDE, GNOME, etc.) and applications; especially improve third-parties (be
+</I>&gt;<i> it free or proprietary software) integration;
+</I>&gt;<i> Target new architectures and form-factors; and
+</I>&gt;<i> Improve understanding of computers and electronics devices users.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> == Name ==
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The term &quot;mageia&quot; &#8212; &#956;&#945;&#947;&#949;&#943;&#945; in Greek &#8212; means &quot;magic&quot; in English. It is a
+</I>&gt;<i> reference to Mandrake (the magician), the original name of the Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution (Mandrake Linux).[8]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> == References ==
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ^ [<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Archive:Mageia_1_supported_locales">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Archive:Mageia_1_supported_locales</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Archive:Mageia 1 supported locales] - Mageia wiki&quot;. Wiki.mageia.org.
+</I>&gt;<i> Retrieved 2012-04-20.
+</I>&gt;<i> ^
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_1_Release_Notes#CLI_Package_Management_T">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_1_Release_Notes#CLI_Package_Management_T</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ools &quot;Mageia 1 Release Notes - Mageia wiki&quot;]. Wiki.mageia.org. Retrieved
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012-04-20. ^ [<A HREF="http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mageia">http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mageia</A> a b
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;DistroWatch.com: Mageia&quot;]. 2012-04-29. Retrieved 2012-04-29.
+</I>&gt;<i> ^ [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/2010-sept-announcement.html">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/2010-sept-announcement.html</A> a b c &quot;A
+</I>&gt;<i> New Linux Distribution&quot;.] Mageia. 2010-09-18. Retrieved 2012-04-20.
+</I>&gt;<i> ^ [<A HREF="http://distrowatch.com/">http://distrowatch.com/</A> &quot;DistroWatch&quot;]. Retrieved 2012-04-20.
+</I>&gt;<i> ^ [<A HREF="http://www.muktware.com/blogs/1878">http://www.muktware.com/blogs/1878</A> &quot;Mageia Goes For 9 Month Release
+</I>&gt;<i> Cycle&quot;]. 2011-07-18. Retrieved 2012-04-20.
+</I>&gt;<i> ^ [<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cauldron">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cauldron</A> &quot;Cauldron - Mageia wiki&quot;].
+</I>&gt;<i> Retrieved 2012-04-20.
+</I>&gt;<i> ^ [<A HREF="http://www.waybeta.com/news/85180/mandriva-linux-bifurcation-mageia-">http://www.waybeta.com/news/85180/mandriva-linux-bifurcation-mageia-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> project-released-the-first-alpha-version-of-_mandriva-linux/ &quot;Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> Linux bifurcation Mageia project released the first Alpha version of
+</I>&gt;<i> _Mandriva Linux&quot;]. waybeta. Retrieved 2012-04-20.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> == See also ==
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Portal icon Free Software portal
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandriva_Linux">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandriva_Linux</A> Mandriva Linux]
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution [<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandriva">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandriva</A> Mandriva, SA]
+</I>&gt;<i> (corporation) [<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCLinuxOS">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCLinuxOS</A> PCLinuxOS] &#8212; another
+</I>&gt;<i> Linux Distribution based on Mandriva Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_Linux">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_Linux</A> Unity Linux] &#8212; a
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva-based distribution designed to be a base for end user
+</I>&gt;<i> distributions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> == External links ==
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> Official website]
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="http://wiki.mageia.org/">http://wiki.mageia.org/</A> Mageia Wiki]
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/</A> Mailing lists]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> **************************************************************
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Hi Macxi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As the suggestion of Patricia and Marja, I subscribed to this list.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Welcome!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I'm here to know how I can help on this subject, and specifically to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; discuss how to help the situation about of the wikipedia page of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; mageia which was recently excluded.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;We need to make a new one, and I&#180;ve begun one as a private page but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;haven&#180;t got any material on it yet; so if you&#180;ve got a Wikipedia login
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;and you have time to do it, we can all work with you.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Thanks for creating the Press page - this is for putting links to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;reviews and articles, yes?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;We have a space on the Marcom page for links to press so we can send
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;out press releases about Mageia 2; you could maybe take a look at that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;list and see if you can suggest some more?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;For the Wikipedia page, here are some links (you probably already have):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; .html <A HREF="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1">http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_comin">http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_comin</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> g_in_mageia_linux_20.html
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Em sex 18 mai 2012, &#224;s 10:56:11, Macxi escreveu:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello everybody,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As the suggestion of Patricia and Marja, I subscribed to this list.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm here to know how I can help on this subject, and specifically to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; discuss how to help the situation about of the wikipedia page of mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; which was recently excluded.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The page of Mageia in wkipedia (in english) has been deleted in May 13,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2012. <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The report of the decision here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mageia">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I mentioned this in the F&#243;rum Mageia, topic &quot;Re: mageia information
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (wikipedia):&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428#p18065">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428#p18065</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm worried because many people will look for information about mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; next week, when the Mageia 2 is released, and I really like the wikipedia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and I think an important source of information for everyone who wants to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; learn more about Mageia,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I suggest create a page &quot;Mageia 2 Press&quot; in Mageia Wiki: (
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Mageia_2">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Mageia_2</A> ) and I would like request
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the reactivation of the page mageia in wikipedia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There are two pages with news about mageia:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Archive:Initial_press_release_on_the_Mageia_fo">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Archive:Initial_press_release_on_the_Mageia_fo</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rk <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia1_Press">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia1_Press</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In category of the &quot;press&quot;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Press">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Press</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think it is necessary to create a page about Mageia2_Press, or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia_2_Press.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As As the suggestion of Romain:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Em sex 18 mai 2012, &#224;s 09:59:10, Romain d'Alverny escreveu:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Macxi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">terraagua at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; I think it is necessary to create a category &quot;Press&quot; and create a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; page about Mageia2_Press
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Just added the category. For the page, name it &quot;Mageia 2 Press&quot; or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &quot;Mageia 2 Press Review&quot; (with a space before the version).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Macxi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Re: Welcome, and feel free to introduce yourself
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Postby macxi &#187; May 24th, '11, 21:50
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=15&amp;start=100#p1907">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=15&amp;start=100#p1907</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ***********************
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Max Quarterpleen &lt;bogusman222 at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; gmail.com&gt;wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;rda at mageia.org&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;trish at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; thefrasers.org&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; I think it's unlikely that we'll get it undeleted, but we can try
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; for a new Mageia page; I'm on it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;From the discussion and deletion decision, recreating it is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;completely
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; open. Funny things is, it's been 3 votes for deletion, 2 against, so
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; it's not like it's a big deal either, it's been only one person needed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; to make it go - and Mageia pages in other languages are not much
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; different either.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; But, for the new page, sources will be needed to sustain each stance,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; and - I'm not sure how this can be included, maybe as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; sources/references actually - hints to existing coverage (relevant,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; independant articles and reviews) will be needed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Yeah. I don't think we can quote our own site as a good source.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; The 'about' Mageia on Distrowatch is pretty OK.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Here are a couple of articles I remember seeing, there are probably
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; more.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-a">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-a</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; t. html <A HREF="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;A quick Google search also turned up these gems:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;<A HREF="http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1">http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;<A HREF="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_co">http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_co</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;mi ng_in_mageia_linux_20.html
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; *******************************
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+<PRE>Hi Trish
+
+rda would like content for the new website, and there will be a
+release/council meeting later on today at 13:30 UTC, (instead of the
+time that was given in the council meeting), going by the council
+mailing list archive:
+<A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/arc/council/2012-05/msg00055.html">https://ml.mageia.org/l/arc/council/2012-05/msg00055.html</A> I may be
+there, but I think you should be for sure as the current leader of
+Marcom, if you can easily make it, which you probably can since the time
+it will be there.
+
+More information about both things in the log of the earlier council
+meeting:
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-05-21-19.04.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-05-21-19.04.log.html</A>
+
+Also I assume the blog post and press release is finished? Hence why you
+were asking recently on the artwork team mailing list about screen shots?
+
+P.S
+
+For openness I thought it was a good idea to send the message to the
+Marcom mailing list, rather than off list.
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+
+Last weekend on the Saturday I went to the local event that I had
+mentioned was going to happen on this mailing list before.
+
+I did a talk first with someone about the LUG, which unfortunately
+wasn't recorded by the friend I had got to record the Mageia talk,
+however it seems to have been by someone else, but I don't know who that
+is. I think he also recorded my Magiea Talk, but not sure.
+
+The short LUG talk went ok, and then the Mageia Talk I think after
+seeing a video of it a few times, I think went rather well for a first
+Lightning Talk or any talk like that on my own.
+
+I am going to have some better quality videos sent or something, well
+already had one, and before I had it, I sent another to a few people,
+however I am thinking yes this is going to go online publically for many
+people to be able to see, and the slideshow already is.
+
+Anyway I was thinking to do a blog post about the event and the talks on
+the Mageia blog, however I don't have access to the blog, but I know
+that you do for example Trish.
+
+I didn't get any Mageia 1 CD's sent to me, and so gave out a few pre
+release CD's that I had got my friend to make. Someone in QA suggested
+the pre release to give out. I also made it clear or tried to make it
+clear, to people who got given them that it was a pre release.
+
+After the Mageia talk about five guys came up to me wanting to know more
+about Mageia, however I didn't give a CD to all of them. Also one guy
+got rather interested it seems after having a proper chat with him, and
+wanted to make sure he had my contact details right.
+
+P.S
+
+Maybe I should have bought the three KDE 4 Mageia 1 CD's from FOSDEM
+that I have left that I wanted to give away really, oh well.
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+I was reading our blog article in english for mga2 release &amp; i noticed that we
+promote Flash for it.
+While flash is indeed required by several end users we should probably rewrite
+this part since &#160;flash is *not* included in mageia but rather available via a
+specific package which is in fact available in a media not enable by default.
+Something like Flash can be installed via our NonFree Media &amp; after a short
+description of the Core/NonFree/Tainted media.
+
+
+Regards,
+
+
+--
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+Jabber-id: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net</A>
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was reading our blog article in english for mga2 release &amp; i
+</I>&gt;<i> noticed that we promote Flash for it.
+</I>&gt;<i> While flash is indeed required by several end users we should
+</I>&gt;<i> probably rewrite this part since &#160;flash is *not* included in mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> but rather available via a specific package which is in fact
+</I>&gt;<i> available in a media not enable by default. Something like Flash can
+</I>&gt;<i> be installed via our NonFree Media &amp; after a short description of the
+</I>&gt;<i> Core/NonFree/Tainted media.
+</I>
+Thanks! No matter how many eyes go over something pre-publication,
+there&#180;s always something.
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 linuxcounter.net
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+ <B>Rupert Horstk&#246;tter</B>
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+<PRE>Hi,
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+I just subscribed to the list and I'd like to introduce myself to the
+team quickly.
+
+My name is Rupert Horstk&#246;tter, I'm 31 years old, I'm living in
+Ober-Ramstadt, Germany and I'm studying business administration and
+electrical engineering at TU Darmstadt. I'm a Linux enthusiast and
+contributor since around 10 years now, started with Knoppix,
+(open)SUSE, etc etc and then settled to Ubuntu as my operating system
+of choice (+ some ArchLinux &amp; Mac OSX). I always was very much
+interested in various Linux related topics, tinkering, tried numerous
+distros on occasion and still do.
+
+&gt;<i>From a more &quot;professional&quot; perspective I have quite some background
+</I>with FLOSS marketing and community management/building. That said, I
+have been employed at and around SUSE three times now in various
+capacities: E.g. I served as a project manager for the initial launch
+of the openSUSE forums [1], I have been involved in a restructuring of
+the openSUSE wiki [2] and I have been an openSUSE board member for a
+two-year term from 2009 to 2011 ... besides other things (Weekly
+Newsletter, etc). Just to give a brief overview of my &quot;history&quot;.
+
+As of Mageia and the reason I'm here: I passively followed the
+creation of the Mageia project almost from day 1 and I feel that
+you're doing an awesome job both from a community building and
+technical/distribution perspective - my honest appreciation. Following
+a Virtualbox installation of Mageia 2 (yes, I was just too curious :p)
+and some research on Mageia's website, I decided to join the
+mageia-marcom list.
+
+All that said, I'm currently quite busy finishing my studies at
+university and thus I won't be able to contribute too much actively at
+least from a short term perspective, but I somehow perceived it as a
+good idea to finally get in touch closer by subscribing to the list.
+I'd like to follow the mageia-marcom discussions a bit if you don't
+mind for the time being and I could imagine to get involved in some
+(or the other) capacity, i.e. contribute, from a longer term
+perspective as I feel you a likeable team looking at the ML archives -
+We'll see.
+
+Thanks,
+R
+
+[1] <A HREF="http://forums.opensuse.org/">http://forums.opensuse.org/</A>
+[2] <A HREF="http://en.opensuse.org/Main_Page">http://en.opensuse.org/Main_Page</A>
+--
+Rupert Horstk&#246;tter
+Email: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rhorstkoetter at opensuse.org</A>
+IRC: rhorstkoetter on irc.freenode.net
+LinkedIn: <A HREF="http://www.linkedin.com/in/rhorstkoetter">http://www.linkedin.com/in/rhorstkoetter</A>
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+ <B>Otto</B>
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+<PRE>I created a phrase in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the spirit
+of the Mageia. It would be a type of a &#8220;marketing&#8221; of the distro like a
+saying. Generally, companies have saying or mottos like this: &#8220;satisfaction
+guaranteed or money back&#8221;. It&#8217;s a phrase that it&#8217;s the company meaning in
+few words.The Merrian Webster&#8217; dictionary tranlates the motto as the
+following meaning: a sentence, phrase, or word inscribed on something as
+appropriate to or indicative of its character or use. The prase, motto or
+saying to the Mageia is the following:
+
+*&#8220;Mageia is the present and the future.&#8221;* The users at the facebook liked
+this motto. It means Mageia is the present because of its quality and
+stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of distrowatch (at 7th.
+Position now). The other distos at start of mageia didn&#8217;t believe it.They
+desdained Mageia. The future be cause Mageia is a community, an
+organization and came to stay with us and offer the best in the
+future.Thus, if you choose it, It could be included for the Mageia 3 as a
+signal.It&#8217;s just a suggestion. I hope you get me.
+
+Cheers.
+
+Otto S&#225; from Mageia Brazil.
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+
+Welcome to the team, and as I told you earlier on IRC when we were
+chatting, that I would reply to your email. Here it is although a bit
+later than it was going to be, but that doesn't matter.
+
+Patricia Fraser / Trish our team leader, will probably welcome you more
+properly :).
+
+As for contributing feel free to do so when you have the time :).
+
+I know you have mainly joined recently to keep an eye on the mailing
+list, but really now you are a member of the Mageia marketing and
+communications team, as of earlier on today :).
+
+You also talked to Max earlier on IRC so you already know something
+about the meetings and when they are. However we have a logs site for
+Mageia meetings: <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org">http://meetbot.mageia.org</A>
+
+&gt;<i>From Sebastian
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+<PRE>Hi Rupert!
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+Thanks for your introductory email, and all the interesting details
+about your activities in FLOSS.
+
+It's great to have you in the team, whatever time you can spare from
+your studies and other activities; Marcom doesn't have to be terribly
+time-consuming, but we do need people on deck when there's a release,
+and the more different countries we have, the better.
+
+Please do feel free to join any discussions, and of course to start
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+Cheers,
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+
+&gt;<i> I created a phrase in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the
+</I>&gt;<i> spirit of the Mageia. It would be a type of a &#8220;marketing&#8221; of the
+</I>&gt;<i> distro like a saying. Generally, companies have saying or mottos like
+</I>&gt;<i> this: &#8220;satisfaction guaranteed or money back&#8221;. It&#8217;s a phrase that
+</I>&gt;<i> it&#8217;s the company meaning in few words.The Merrian Webster&#8217; dictionary
+</I>&gt;<i> tranlates the motto as the following meaning: a sentence, phrase, or
+</I>&gt;<i> word inscribed on something as appropriate to or indicative of its
+</I>&gt;<i> character or use. The prase, motto or saying to the Mageia is the
+</I>&gt;<i> following:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> *&#8220;Mageia is the present and the future.&#8221;* The users at the facebook
+</I>&gt;<i> liked this motto. It means Mageia is the present because of its
+</I>&gt;<i> quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of
+</I>&gt;<i> distrowatch (at 7th. Position now). The other distos at start of
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia didn&#8217;t believe it.They desdained Mageia. The future be cause
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia is a community, an organization and came to stay with us and
+</I>&gt;<i> offer the best in the future.Thus, if you choose it, It could be
+</I>&gt;<i> included for the Mageia 3 as a signal.It&#8217;s just a suggestion. I hope
+</I>&gt;<i> you get me.
+</I>
+
+Thanks for this!
+
+Have you asked the folks on the mageia-discuss list how they like it?
+That's where a lot of the community hangs out; you could also ask on
+IRC and the forums.
+
+If you get a lot of positive feedback within the community, then we can
+put it to the Council for approval as a slogan.
+
+We'll all look forward to hearing how you get on!
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
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+ <B>Otto</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] a Mageia motto">ottosa at gmail.com
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+<PRE>Hi Patricia Fraser!I have already placed on the Mageia Forum at
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476</A>
+Could you post there to start users posting about this inquiry ?
+Besides, I put at bugzilla at
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032(bug">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032(bug</A> # 6032) but Manuel
+Hiebel pointed me out to ask at Mageia Marketing
+But I haven't put at the mageia irch channel yet. Which channel should I
+ask about it? #mageia (main project); #mageia-board ; #mageia-council ? Or
+another specific Mageia channel? I appreciated your prompt reply. I'm
+looking forward to hear your hints.
+Cheers.
+Otto S&#225;.
+
+2012/5/24 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Hi Otto,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I created a phrase in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; spirit of the Mageia. It would be a type of a &#8220;marketing&#8221; of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; distro like a saying. Generally, companies have saying or mottos like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this: &#8220;satisfaction guaranteed or money back&#8221;. It&#8217;s a phrase that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it&#8217;s the company meaning in few words.The Merrian Webster&#8217; dictionary
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; tranlates the motto as the following meaning: a sentence, phrase, or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; word inscribed on something as appropriate to or indicative of its
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; character or use. The prase, motto or saying to the Mageia is the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; following:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; *&#8220;Mageia is the present and the future.&#8221;* The users at the facebook
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; liked this motto. It means Mageia is the present because of its
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; distrowatch (at 7th. Position now). The other distos at start of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia didn&#8217;t believe it.They desdained Mageia. The future be cause
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia is a community, an organization and came to stay with us and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; offer the best in the future.Thus, if you choose it, It could be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; included for the Mageia 3 as a signal.It&#8217;s just a suggestion. I hope
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you get me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for this!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Have you asked the folks on the mageia-discuss list how they like it?
+</I>&gt;<i> That's where a lot of the community hangs out; you could also ask on
+</I>&gt;<i> IRC and the forums.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you get a lot of positive feedback within the community, then we can
+</I>&gt;<i> put it to the Council for approval as a slogan.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We'll all look forward to hearing how you get on!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607
+</I>&gt;<i> Fri May 25 07:38:18 EST 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 counter.li.org
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+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> I have already placed on the Mageia Forum at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476</A>
+</I>
+That's a good start. For IRC, Seb will probably have good suggestions
+for you - for the mailing lists, try subscribing to the mageia-discuss
+list.
+
+Give it a week or two, and then come back to this list with a summary
+of the reactions, both good and bad, so we can see what people think.
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
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+<PRE>Otto,
+
+Very good your initiative to discuss the creation of a slogan for the Mageia. I
+think it is necessary to discuss it. Congratulations for your idea.
+
+Macxi
+
+Em qui 24 mai 2012, &#224;s 20:24:49, Otto escreveu:
+&gt;<i> Hi Patricia Fraser!I have already placed on the Mageia Forum at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could you post there to start users posting about this inquiry ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Besides, I put at bugzilla at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032(bug">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032(bug</A> # 6032) but Manuel
+</I>&gt;<i> Hiebel pointed me out to ask at Mageia Marketing
+</I>&gt;<i> But I haven't put at the mageia irch channel yet. Which channel should I
+</I>&gt;<i> ask about it? #mageia (main project); #mageia-board ; #mageia-council ? Or
+</I>&gt;<i> another specific Mageia channel? I appreciated your prompt reply. I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> looking forward to hear your hints.
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers.
+</I>&gt;<i> Otto S&#225;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/5/24 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi Otto,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I created a phrase in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; spirit of the Mageia. It would be a type of a &#8220;marketing&#8221; of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; distro like a saying. Generally, companies have saying or mottos like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; this: &#8220;satisfaction guaranteed or money back&#8221;. It&#8217;s a phrase that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; it&#8217;s the company meaning in few words.The Merrian Webster&#8217; dictionary
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; tranlates the motto as the following meaning: a sentence, phrase, or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; word inscribed on something as appropriate to or indicative of its
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; character or use. The prase, motto or saying to the Mageia is the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; following:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; *&#8220;Mageia is the present and the future.&#8221;* The users at the facebook
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; liked this motto. It means Mageia is the present because of its
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; distrowatch (at 7th. Position now). The other distos at start of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; mageia didn&#8217;t believe it.They desdained Mageia. The future be cause
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Mageia is a community, an organization and came to stay with us and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; offer the best in the future.Thus, if you choose it, It could be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; included for the Mageia 3 as a signal.It&#8217;s just a suggestion. I hope
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; you get me.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks for this!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Have you asked the folks on the mageia-discuss list how they like it?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That's where a lot of the community hangs out; you could also ask on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; IRC and the forums.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If you get a lot of positive feedback within the community, then we can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; put it to the Council for approval as a slogan.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We'll all look forward to hearing how you get on!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Fri May 25 07:38:18 EST 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 counter.li.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hermes up 0 hour(s), 40 min.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia release 2 (Official) for x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; kernel 3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
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+<PRE>Hi folks,
+
+As we did after Mageia 1, all teams are doing a post-mortem review of
+their activities around Mageia 2.
+
+Check it out here:
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia2_Postmortem#Marcom">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia2_Postmortem#Marcom</A>
+
+We need to add our part by June 10, which is when all the additions are
+due.
+
+For interest, you might like to check out the previous post-mortem:
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marcom_Team#Post-mortem_-_post_Mageia_1_release">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marcom_Team#Post-mortem_-_post_Mageia_1_release</A>
+
+Please add your comments!
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607
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+<LI><A HREF="000895.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 &amp; Flash
+</A><A NAME="895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000864.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000866.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week
+</A><A NAME="866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000870.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000871.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 release texts
+</A><A NAME="871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000872.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000875.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000881.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts - NOW URGENT
+</A><A NAME="881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000884.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000890.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000896.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 &amp; Flash
+</A><A NAME="896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000900.html">[Mageia-marketing] quick self-introduction
+</A><A NAME="900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000901.html">[Mageia-marketing] a Mageia motto
+</A><A NAME="901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000903.html">[Mageia-marketing] a Mageia motto
+</A><A NAME="903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000905.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000897.html">[Mageia-marketing] quick self-introduction
+</A><A NAME="897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rupert Horstk&#246;tter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000888.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000889.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000891.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
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+<LI><A HREF="000892.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
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+<LI><A HREF="000904.html">[Mageia-marketing] a Mageia motto
+</A><A NAME="904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000898.html">[Mageia-marketing] a Mageia motto
+</A><A NAME="898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Otto
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000902.html">[Mageia-marketing] a Mageia motto
+</A><A NAME="902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Otto
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000883.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
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+<LI><A HREF="000886.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
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+<LI><A HREF="000887.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000865.html">[Mageia-marketing] Emails lost yesterday
+</A><A NAME="865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000867.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week
+</A><A NAME="867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000869.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000893.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 release stuff
+</A><A NAME="893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000894.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Talks
+</A><A NAME="894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000899.html">[Mageia-marketing] quick self-introduction
+</A><A NAME="899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000882.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts - NOW URGENT
+</A><A NAME="882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000876.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000877.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000878.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000880.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000868.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000873.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000874.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000879.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000885.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+
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+<LI><A HREF="000864.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000865.html">[Mageia-marketing] Emails lost yesterday
+</A><A NAME="865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000866.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week
+</A><A NAME="866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000867.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week
+</A><A NAME="867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000868.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000869.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000870.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000871.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 release texts
+</A><A NAME="871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000872.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000873.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000874.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000875.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000876.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000877.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000878.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000879.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000880.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000881.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts - NOW URGENT
+</A><A NAME="881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000882.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts - NOW URGENT
+</A><A NAME="882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000883.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000884.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000885.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000886.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000887.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000888.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000889.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000890.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000891.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000892.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000893.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 release stuff
+</A><A NAME="893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000894.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Talks
+</A><A NAME="894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000895.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 &amp; Flash
+</A><A NAME="895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000896.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 &amp; Flash
+</A><A NAME="896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000897.html">[Mageia-marketing] quick self-introduction
+</A><A NAME="897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rupert Horstk&#246;tter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000898.html">[Mageia-marketing] a Mageia motto
+</A><A NAME="898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Otto
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000899.html">[Mageia-marketing] quick self-introduction
+</A><A NAME="899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000900.html">[Mageia-marketing] quick self-introduction
+</A><A NAME="900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000901.html">[Mageia-marketing] a Mageia motto
+</A><A NAME="901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000902.html">[Mageia-marketing] a Mageia motto
+</A><A NAME="902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Otto
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000903.html">[Mageia-marketing] a Mageia motto
+</A><A NAME="903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000904.html">[Mageia-marketing] a Mageia motto
+</A><A NAME="904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000905.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed May 30 11:59:09 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed May 30 11:59:23 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
+ Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i>
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+
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+ <title>The Mageia-marketing May 2012 Archive by subject</title>
+ <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow">
+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <a name="start"></A>
+ <h1>May 2012 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue May 1 00:45:36 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed May 30 11:59:09 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 42<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000898.html">[Mageia-marketing] a Mageia motto
+</A><A NAME="898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Otto
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000901.html">[Mageia-marketing] a Mageia motto
+</A><A NAME="901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000902.html">[Mageia-marketing] a Mageia motto
+</A><A NAME="902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Otto
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000903.html">[Mageia-marketing] a Mageia motto
+</A><A NAME="903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000904.html">[Mageia-marketing] a Mageia motto
+</A><A NAME="904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000865.html">[Mageia-marketing] Emails lost yesterday
+</A><A NAME="865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000895.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 &amp; Flash
+</A><A NAME="895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000896.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 &amp; Flash
+</A><A NAME="896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000893.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 release stuff
+</A><A NAME="893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000871.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 release texts
+</A><A NAME="871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000866.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week
+</A><A NAME="866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000867.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week
+</A><A NAME="867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000905.html">[Mageia-marketing] Postmortem
+</A><A NAME="905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000897.html">[Mageia-marketing] quick self-introduction
+</A><A NAME="897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rupert Horstk&#246;tter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000899.html">[Mageia-marketing] quick self-introduction
+</A><A NAME="899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000900.html">[Mageia-marketing] quick self-introduction
+</A><A NAME="900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000864.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000881.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts - NOW URGENT
+</A><A NAME="881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000882.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts - NOW URGENT
+</A><A NAME="882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000876.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000877.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000878.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000880.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000872.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000894.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Talks
+</A><A NAME="894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000868.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000873.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000874.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000879.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000869.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000870.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000875.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000883.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000884.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000885.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000886.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000887.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000888.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000889.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000890.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000891.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000892.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Macxi
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed May 30 11:59:09 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed May 30 11:59:23 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
+ Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i>
+ </BODY>
+</HTML>
+
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+ <title>The Mageia-marketing May 2012 Archive by thread</title>
+ <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow">
+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <a name="start"></A>
+ <h1>May 2012 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue May 1 00:45:36 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed May 30 11:59:09 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 42<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01335825936- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000864.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release notes update needed - E17 themes
+</A><A NAME="864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01335924676- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000865.html">[Mageia-marketing] Emails lost yesterday
+</A><A NAME="865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01336477125- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000866.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week
+</A><A NAME="866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01336477125-01336519845- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000867.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting this week
+</A><A NAME="867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01336747541- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000868.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01336747541-01336773558- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000869.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01336747541-01336773558-01337005646- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000873.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01336747541-01336795247- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000870.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01336747541-01336795247-01337009888- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000874.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01336747541-01336795247-01337009888-01337035210- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000875.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01336747541-01336795247-01337009888-01337035210-01337102956- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000879.html">[Mageia-marketing] Web site, a few updates pending, open for comments
+</A><A NAME="879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01336992371- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000871.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 2 release texts
+</A><A NAME="871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01336992948- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000872.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01336992948-01337065409- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000876.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01336992948-01337065409-01337065848- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000877.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01336992948-01337065409-01337065848-01337065935- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000878.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01336992948-01337065409-01337065848-01337065935-01337105933- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000880.html">[Mageia-marketing] See package changes between Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 by using Mageia App Db
+</A><A NAME="880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01337175845- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000881.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts - NOW URGENT
+</A><A NAME="881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01337175845-01337191506- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000882.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts - NOW URGENT
+</A><A NAME="882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01337244320- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000883.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01337244320-01337255889- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000884.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01337244320-01337255889-01337274739- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000885.html">[Mageia-marketing] Wikipedia wars
+</A><A NAME="885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
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+my name is J&#246;rg Stephan and i am an 33 years old systemadministrator from Germany (Saarland), i mostly work with Debian, Ubuntu and SUSE servers. Last weekend i tried mageia in private and i really like what i see. So i would like to help if i can and donate some time to help making mageia better (if i can).
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+<PRE>On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Joerg Stephan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">johe.stephan at ymail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Good morning,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> my name is J&#246;rg Stephan and i am an 33 years old systemadministrator from
+</I>&gt;<i> Germany (Saarland), i mostly work with Debian, Ubuntu and SUSE servers.
+</I>&gt;<i> Last weekend i tried mageia in private and i really like what i see. So i
+</I>&gt;<i> would like to help if i can and donate some time to help making mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> better (if i can).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kind regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Good morning J&#246;rg!
+Welcome to Mageia!
+A few months ago the Marketing team merged with the Artwork and Web teams
+(due to similar goals and much working together) to form the new Atelier
+team.
+You can subscribe to the mailing list here:
+<A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/atelier-discuss</A>
+The IRC channel we use is #mageia-atelier on Freenode.
+We're very glad to see that you like Mageia, and welcome any contribution
+you can offer.
+Max
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> J&#246;rg
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+On 09/12/2012 02:17 AM, Joerg Stephan wrote:
+&gt;<i> Good morning,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> my name is J&#246;rg Stephan and i am an 33 years old systemadministrator from Germany (Saarland), i mostly work with Debian, Ubuntu and SUSE servers. Last weekend i tried mageia in private and i really like what i see. So i would like to help if i can and donate some time to help making mageia better (if i can).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Well welcome Jorg, to Mageia :) We're glad to have you.
+
+I see you already joined the &quot;Mageia-sysadm&quot; group, and considering your
+skills, you may want to checkout the &quot;Mageia-dev&quot; group too. I know that
+packagers are always needed and your skillset would come in mighty handy
+there too.
+
+You can join the irc channels for those at
+<A HREF="irc://chat.freenode.net/#mageia-sysadm">irc://chat.freenode.net/#mageia-sysadm</A> and
+<A HREF="irc://chat.freenode.net/#mageia-dev">irc://chat.freenode.net/#mageia-dev</A>
+
+There's also an *attache'* group, or something like that, which combines
+the resources of marcom and webdev groups.
+
+Once again Jorg, welcome aboard!
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
+<A HREF="http://NorthTech.US">http://NorthTech.US</A>
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+<I>Max Quarterpleen
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+<I>Joerg Stephan
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+
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+</A><A NAME="965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000966.html">[Mageia-marketing] Hello (My first post)
+</A><A NAME="966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
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+ <B>Mageia Sysadmins</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Mailing%20list%20migration%3A%20this%20list%20is%20closing&In-Reply-To=%3C5161aad6.2dhVWHqjtD2RfNT7%25sysadmin%40group.mageia.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Mailing list migration: this list is closing">sysadmin at group.mageia.org
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+
+When the Mageia project was started, it didn't have any server. Fortunatly
+people from zarb.org proposed to host the basic project infrastructure
+(mainly the website, wiki and mailing lists) until the project can have
+its own servers. Mageia.Org now have a few servers since October 2010
+(thanks to donations for the servers and Lost Oasis and Gandi for the
+hosting), but until now the existing mailing lists hosted by zarb.org
+had not been migrated to the Mageia mailing lists server. It is now time
+to do it and close this mailing list.
+
+This mailing list will be closed in coming hours and is now replaced by
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">atelier-discuss at ml.mageia.org.</A>
+
+The URL for the new list is :
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+
+You can find more details about mailing lists subscription and available
+lists on this page :
+&#160;&#160;&#160; <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mailing_lists">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mailing_lists</A>
+
+The archives for the old mailing lists will be available on
+<A HREF="http://archives.mageia.org/">http://archives.mageia.org/</A> (in a few days).
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+<PRE>Am 09.01.2013 11:29, schrieb Ibrahim Yurtseven:
+&gt;<i> Will MAgeia Project present Mageia Linux on CLT'13?
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2013/">http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2013/</A>
+</I>
+I registered there and will receive final informations from CLT in the
+next weeks.
+
+I will keep you posted.
+
+Oliver
+
+--
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+<PRE>Am 09.01.2013 13:01, schrieb Oliver Burger:
+&gt;<i> Am 09.01.2013 11:29, schrieb Ibrahim Yurtseven:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Will MAgeia Project present Mageia Linux on CLT'13?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2013/">http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2013/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I registered there and will receive final informations from CLT in the next
+</I>&gt;<i> weeks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I will keep you posted.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Please also post back here, people are waiting for feedback:
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/de/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=1123">https://forums.mageia.org/de/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=1123</A>
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+On 01/09/2013 04:01 AM, Oliver Burger wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 09.01.2013 11:29, schrieb Ibrahim Yurtseven:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Will MAgeia Project present Mageia Linux on CLT'13?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2013/">http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2013/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I registered there and will receive final informations from CLT in the
+</I>&gt;<i> next weeks.
+</I>
+We may also want to consider SCaLE 11x in Los Angeles too, which is
+coming up next month here locally.
+
+I'm personal friends with one of the main organizers so lemme know if
+there's any interest, and what that interest is.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
+<A HREF="http://NorthTech.US">http://NorthTech.US</A>
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+ <B>Anne Nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>Le 10/01/2013 15:55, Bradley D. Thornton a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i> On 01/09/2013 04:01 AM, Oliver Burger wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 09.01.2013 11:29, schrieb Ibrahim Yurtseven:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Will MAgeia Project present Mageia Linux on CLT'13?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2013/">http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2013/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I registered there and will receive final informations from CLT in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> next weeks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We may also want to consider SCaLE 11x in Los Angeles too, which is
+</I>&gt;<i> coming up next month here locally.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm personal friends with one of the main organizers so lemme know if
+</I>&gt;<i> there's any interest, and what that interest is.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kindest regards,
+</I>
+Could be interesting as we do not have many opportunities in the US. But
+do we have volunteers to attend ?
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - --
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>&gt;<i> Manager Network Services
+</I>&gt;<i> NorthTech Computer
+</I>&gt;<i> TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+</I>&gt;<i> TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+</I>&gt;<i> TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
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+<LI><A HREF="000967.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia on CLT'13
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+<I>Ibrahim Yurtseven
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+<LI><A HREF="000968.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia on CLT'13
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+<I>Oliver Burger
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+<LI><A HREF="000969.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia on CLT'13
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+<I>Florian Hubold
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+<LI><A HREF="000970.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia on CLT'13
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+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
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+<I>Anne Nicolas
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+<LI><A HREF="000968.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia on CLT'13
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+<I>Oliver Burger
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+<LI><A HREF="000969.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia on CLT'13
+</A><A NAME="969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
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+<LI><A HREF="000970.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia on CLT'13
+</A><A NAME="970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
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+<LI><A HREF="000971.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia on CLT'13
+</A><A NAME="971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
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+<!--2 01357727349-01357732910-01357829736- -->
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+<div>Hi Zikkle speaking here,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.</div>
+<div>Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.</div>
+<div>Are there other dutch speaking people involvedin the Mageia Marketing team. How can I donate money? How and where can I meet Mageia Marketing people in real life and not just</div>
+<div>the internet. Does the Mageia marketing team intend not only visit the FOSDEM in Brussels in February 2011, but also other kind of events. Does Mageia try to reach a broader user base than only (hardcore) nerds? Are there plans to open meeting points and demonstration rooms for showing people the Mageia-distribution. Are there plans to have a Mageia CDEES such as Ubuntu have? What are the planned release cycle of Mageia? How long will Mageia be supported by updates? </div>
+
+<div></div>
+<div>Yours Sincerely,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zikkle</div>
+<div></div>
+<div> a Dutch person interested in the Mageia marketing team</div>
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+<div>Hi Zikkle speaking here,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.</div>
+<div>Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.</div>
+<div>Are there other dutch speaking people involvedin the Mageia Marketing team. How can I donate money? How and where can I meet Mageia Marketing people in real life and not just</div>
+<div>the internet. Does the Mageia marketing team intend not only visit the FOSDEM in Brussels in February 2011, but also other kind of events. Does Mageia try to reach a broader user base than only (hardcore) nerds? Are there plans to open meeting points and demonstration rooms for showing people the Mageia-distribution. Are there plans to have a Mageia CDEES such as Ubuntu have? What are the planned release cycle of Mageia? How long will Mageia be supported by updates? </div>
+
+<div></div>
+<div>Yours Sincerely,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zikkle</div>
+<div></div>
+<div> a Dutch person interested in the Mageia marketing team</div>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20101224/8e75b4fa/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20101224/8e75b4fa/attachment-0001.html
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+Well try to join #mageia-marcon @ irc-freenodeChanel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 6:00 PM, <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Send Mageia-marketing mailing list submissions to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>
+ <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+You can reach the person managing the list at<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
+than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+ 1. what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team<br>
+ (suikerstroop)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:16:21 +0100<br>
+From: suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia<br>
+ marketing team<br>
+Message-ID:<br>
+ &lt;AANLkTinY00fS8-PNahBheU2=<a href="mailto:0KJXw4e7bvW14rJZHx-W@mail.gmail.com">0KJXw4e7bvW14rJZHx-W@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;<br>
+<br>
+Hi Zikkle speaking here,<br>
+<br>
+I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information<br>
+about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with<br>
+them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+Are there other dutch speaking people involved in the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+How can I donate money? How and where can I meet Mageia Marketing people in<br>
+real life and not just<br>
+the internet. Does the Mageia marketing team intend not only visit the<br>
+FOSDEM in Brussels in February 2011, but also other kind of events. Does<br>
+Mageia try to reach a broader user base than only (hardcore) nerds? Are<br>
+there plans to open meeting points and demonstration rooms for showing<br>
+people the Mageia-distribution. Are there plans to have a Mageia CDEES such<br>
+as Ubuntu have? What are the planned release cycle of Mageia? How long will<br>
+Mageia be supported by updates?<br>
+<br>
+Yours Sincerely,<br>
+<br>
+Zikkle<br>
+<br>
+ a Dutch person interested in the Mageia marketing team<br>
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+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3<br>
+**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+Well try to join #mageia-marcon @ irc-freenodeChanel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 6:00 PM, <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Send Mageia-marketing mailing list submissions to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>
+ <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+You can reach the person managing the list at<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
+than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+ 1. what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team<br>
+ (suikerstroop)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:16:21 +0100<br>
+From: suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia<br>
+ marketing team<br>
+Message-ID:<br>
+ &lt;AANLkTinY00fS8-PNahBheU2=<a href="mailto:0KJXw4e7bvW14rJZHx-W@mail.gmail.com">0KJXw4e7bvW14rJZHx-W@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;<br>
+<br>
+Hi Zikkle speaking here,<br>
+<br>
+I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information<br>
+about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with<br>
+them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+Are there other dutch speaking people involved in the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+How can I donate money? How and where can I meet Mageia Marketing people in<br>
+real life and not just<br>
+the internet. Does the Mageia marketing team intend not only visit the<br>
+FOSDEM in Brussels in February 2011, but also other kind of events. Does<br>
+Mageia try to reach a broader user base than only (hardcore) nerds? Are<br>
+there plans to open meeting points and demonstration rooms for showing<br>
+people the Mageia-distribution. Are there plans to have a Mageia CDEES such<br>
+as Ubuntu have? What are the planned release cycle of Mageia? How long will<br>
+Mageia be supported by updates?<br>
+<br>
+Yours Sincerely,<br>
+<br>
+Zikkle<br>
+<br>
+ a Dutch person interested in the Mageia marketing team<br>
+-------------- next part --------------<br>
+An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>
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+<br>
+------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3<br>
+**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+<br><br>
+<div class="gmail_quote">
+<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br>
+<br><br>Today&#39;s Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team<br> (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>
+Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:17:34 +0100<br>From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br> &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the<br> Mageia marketing team<br>Message-ID:<br> &lt;AANLkTintr7=bHD07g_OrJAM+MWZgX=<a href="mailto:w7S1dgHPYpR1-o@mail.gmail.com">w7S1dgHPYpR1-o@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>Hi there,<br><br>thanks for your message! And Happy New Year, to you and everyone here!<br><br>On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 15:16, suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information<br>&gt; about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>&gt; Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with<br>
+&gt; them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>&gt; Are there other dutch speaking people involved?in the Mageia Marketing team.<br><br>I&#39;ll let the other members of the team complete.<br><br>The whole Mageia thing is still in the making. </blockquote>
+
+<div></div>
+<div>How can I play an active role in the Mageia marketing team? Is there a kind of meeting point?</div>
+<div>I would like to target not-linux users yet? </div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Questions about the mageia-distribution:</div>
+<div>- What kind of desktop environment will mageia use? KDE, XFCE, GNOME, enlightment, LXDE</div>
+<div>- choice of office package -&gt; OpenOffice, LibreOffice, KOffice, Abiword and Gnumeric</div>
+<div>- choice of system management tools</div>
+<div>- choice of file manager -&gt; Thunar, Dolphin, Nautilus or something else</div>
+<div>- choice of multi media player -&gt; Totem, Xineplayer, Mplayer, Kaefine,VLC player</div>
+<div>- choice of burning software -&gt; K3B, brasero, XFburn</div>
+<div> excuses for eventually mis typings.</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Yours sincerely,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwikkle</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>PS: I am not a great fan of using the following stuff:</div>
+<div>- Java --&gt; makes the computer slower than necessary</div>
+<div>- Mono --&gt; patented stuff</div>
+<div>- KDE --&gt; is not very stable</div>
+<div>- OpenOffice --&gt; because too many Java in it.</div></div>
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+<br><br>
+<div class="gmail_quote">
+<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br>
+<br><br>Today&#39;s Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team<br> (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>
+Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:17:34 +0100<br>From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br> &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the<br> Mageia marketing team<br>Message-ID:<br> &lt;AANLkTintr7=bHD07g_OrJAM+MWZgX=<a href="mailto:w7S1dgHPYpR1-o@mail.gmail.com">w7S1dgHPYpR1-o@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>Hi there,<br><br>thanks for your message! And Happy New Year, to you and everyone here!<br><br>On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 15:16, suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information<br>&gt; about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>&gt; Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with<br>
+&gt; them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>&gt; Are there other dutch speaking people involved?in the Mageia Marketing team.<br><br>I&#39;ll let the other members of the team complete.<br><br>The whole Mageia thing is still in the making. </blockquote>
+
+<div></div>
+<div>How can I play an active role in the Mageia marketing team? Is there a kind of meeting point?</div>
+<div>I would like to target not-linux users yet? </div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Questions about the mageia-distribution:</div>
+<div>- What kind of desktop environment will mageia use? KDE, XFCE, GNOME, enlightment, LXDE</div>
+<div>- choice of office package -&gt; OpenOffice, LibreOffice, KOffice, Abiword and Gnumeric</div>
+<div>- choice of system management tools</div>
+<div>- choice of file manager -&gt; Thunar, Dolphin, Nautilus or something else</div>
+<div>- choice of multi media player -&gt; Totem, Xineplayer, Mplayer, Kaefine,VLC player</div>
+<div>- choice of burning software -&gt; K3B, brasero, XFburn</div>
+<div> excuses for eventually mis typings.</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Yours sincerely,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwikkle</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>PS: I am not a great fan of using the following stuff:</div>
+<div>- Java --&gt; makes the computer slower than necessary</div>
+<div>- Mono --&gt; patented stuff</div>
+<div>- KDE --&gt; is not very stable</div>
+<div>- OpenOffice --&gt; because too many Java in it.</div></div>
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+Well, mageia is fork from mandriva which is will use KDE as major DE IMHO. For not being fans i guess all DE have they own fans. So it would be no problem at all. You can find in archlinux statistic for example. Major DE they use is KDE, it list on they package statistic. I&#39;m on arch, ubuntu and mandriva. So between each distro doesn&#39;t matter which DE you use is not a problem. The important things is how to promote mageia so people will see it as a good Distro compared with the old one.<br>
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:00 PM, <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Send Mageia-marketing mailing list submissions to<br>
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+or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
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+When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
+than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br>
+<br>
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+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+ 1. Re: Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1 (suikerstroop)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:10:24 +0100<br>
+From: suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue<br>
+ 1<br>
+Message-ID:<br>
+ &lt;AANLkTikqunft5uwwZUhO==<a href="mailto:KEYhUP0Y64aPNhz6ih-Jsg@mail.gmail.com">KEYhUP0Y64aPNhz6ih-Jsg@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;<br>
+<br>
+When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
+&gt; than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 1. Re: what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team<br>
+&gt; (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Message: 1<br>
+&gt; Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:17:34 +0100<br>
+&gt; From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt; To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br>
+&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt; Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the<br>
+&gt; Mageia marketing team<br>
+&gt; Message-ID:<br>
+&gt; &lt;AANLkTintr7=bHD07g_OrJAM+MWZgX=<a href="mailto:w7S1dgHPYpR1-o@mail.gmail.com">w7S1dgHPYpR1-o@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Hi there,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; thanks for your message! And Happy New Year, to you and everyone here!<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 15:16, suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt; I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information<br>
+&gt; &gt; about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+&gt; &gt; Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with<br>
+&gt; &gt; them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+&gt; &gt; Are there other dutch speaking people involved?in the Mageia Marketing<br>
+&gt; team.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;ll let the other members of the team complete.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; The whole Mageia thing is still in the making.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+How can I play an active role in the Mageia marketing team? Is there a kind<br>
+of meeting point?<br>
+I would like to target not-linux users yet?<br>
+<br>
+Questions about the mageia-distribution:<br>
+- What kind of desktop environment will mageia use? KDE, XFCE, GNOME,<br>
+enlightment, LXDE<br>
+- choice of office package -&gt; OpenOffice, LibreOffice, KOffice, Abiword and<br>
+Gnumeric<br>
+- choice of system management tools<br>
+- choice of file manager -&gt; Thunar, Dolphin, Nautilus or something else<br>
+- choice of multi media player -&gt; Totem, Xineplayer, Mplayer, Kaefine,VLC<br>
+player<br>
+- choice of burning software -&gt; K3B, brasero, XFburn<br>
+ excuses for eventually mis typings.<br>
+<br>
+Yours sincerely,<br>
+<br>
+Zwikkle<br>
+<br>
+PS: I am not a great fan of using the following stuff:<br>
+- Java --&gt; makes the computer slower than necessary<br>
+- Mono --&gt; patented stuff<br>
+- KDE --&gt; is not very stable<br>
+- OpenOffice --&gt; because too many Java in it.<br>
+-------------- next part --------------<br>
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+<br>
+------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2<br>
+**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+Well, mageia is fork from mandriva which is will use KDE as major DE IMHO. For not being fans i guess all DE have they own fans. So it would be no problem at all. You can find in archlinux statistic for example. Major DE they use is KDE, it list on they package statistic. I&#39;m on arch, ubuntu and mandriva. So between each distro doesn&#39;t matter which DE you use is not a problem. The important things is how to promote mageia so people will see it as a good Distro compared with the old one.<br>
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:00 PM, <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Send Mageia-marketing mailing list submissions to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>
+ <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+You can reach the person managing the list at<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
+than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+ 1. Re: Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1 (suikerstroop)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:10:24 +0100<br>
+From: suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue<br>
+ 1<br>
+Message-ID:<br>
+ &lt;AANLkTikqunft5uwwZUhO==<a href="mailto:KEYhUP0Y64aPNhz6ih-Jsg@mail.gmail.com">KEYhUP0Y64aPNhz6ih-Jsg@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;<br>
+<br>
+When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
+&gt; than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 1. Re: what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team<br>
+&gt; (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Message: 1<br>
+&gt; Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:17:34 +0100<br>
+&gt; From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt; To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br>
+&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt; Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the<br>
+&gt; Mageia marketing team<br>
+&gt; Message-ID:<br>
+&gt; &lt;AANLkTintr7=bHD07g_OrJAM+MWZgX=<a href="mailto:w7S1dgHPYpR1-o@mail.gmail.com">w7S1dgHPYpR1-o@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Hi there,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; thanks for your message! And Happy New Year, to you and everyone here!<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 15:16, suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt; I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information<br>
+&gt; &gt; about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+&gt; &gt; Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with<br>
+&gt; &gt; them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+&gt; &gt; Are there other dutch speaking people involved?in the Mageia Marketing<br>
+&gt; team.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;ll let the other members of the team complete.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; The whole Mageia thing is still in the making.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+How can I play an active role in the Mageia marketing team? Is there a kind<br>
+of meeting point?<br>
+I would like to target not-linux users yet?<br>
+<br>
+Questions about the mageia-distribution:<br>
+- What kind of desktop environment will mageia use? KDE, XFCE, GNOME,<br>
+enlightment, LXDE<br>
+- choice of office package -&gt; OpenOffice, LibreOffice, KOffice, Abiword and<br>
+Gnumeric<br>
+- choice of system management tools<br>
+- choice of file manager -&gt; Thunar, Dolphin, Nautilus or something else<br>
+- choice of multi media player -&gt; Totem, Xineplayer, Mplayer, Kaefine,VLC<br>
+player<br>
+- choice of burning software -&gt; K3B, brasero, XFburn<br>
+ excuses for eventually mis typings.<br>
+<br>
+Yours sincerely,<br>
+<br>
+Zwikkle<br>
+<br>
+PS: I am not a great fan of using the following stuff:<br>
+- Java --&gt; makes the computer slower than necessary<br>
+- Mono --&gt; patented stuff<br>
+- KDE --&gt; is not very stable<br>
+- OpenOffice --&gt; because too many Java in it.<br>
+-------------- next part --------------<br>
+An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>
+URL: &lt;/pipermail/mageia-marketing/attachments/20110104/99a29058/attachment-0001.html&gt;<br>
+<br>
+------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2<br>
+**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+<div><br>As a dutch (kandidate) member of the Mageia marketing member team,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>I would like to know if there are Dutch or Flemish members involved in the Mageia project. If so, I would like to have</div>
+<div>a meeting with them.</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Yours faithfully,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwikkle</div>
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+<div><br>As a dutch (kandidate) member of the Mageia marketing member team,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>I would like to know if there are Dutch or Flemish members involved in the Mageia project. If so, I would like to have</div>
+<div>a meeting with them.</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Yours faithfully,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwikkle</div>
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+<div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/20 Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Hi,<br><br>
+Shall we discuss briefly about this at the meeting? (today, 15:00 UTC<br>
+on #mageia-marcom on Freenode).<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Romain<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br clear="all">The meeting is at 16:00 UTC.<br><br>-- <br>Elodie / DjeZAeL<br>Utilisatrice de GNU/Linux et de Logiciels Libres<br><br>
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+<div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/20 Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Hi,<br><br>
+Shall we discuss briefly about this at the meeting? (today, 15:00 UTC<br>
+on #mageia-marcom on Freenode).<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Romain<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br clear="all">The meeting is at 16:00 UTC.<br><br>-- <br>Elodie / DjeZAeL<br>Utilisatrice de GNU/Linux et de Logiciels Libres<br><br>
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+<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">What do you think about all of this? Any comments or remarks?<br>
+</blockquote><div><br></div><div><div>I thinks that is a good idea and very necessary.</div><div>I agree with the rules.</div><div>I don&#39;t know about Moonmoon software but I&#39;ll see about this.</div></div><div><br>
+</div><div><br></div><div>A. Jnior</div><div>Mageia (pt_br) team.</div><div><br></div><div></div></div>
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+</blockquote><div><br></div><div><div>I thinks that is a good idea and very necessary.</div><div>I agree with the rules.</div><div>I don&#39;t know about Moonmoon software but I&#39;ll see about this.</div></div><div><br>
+</div><div><br></div><div>A. Jnior</div><div>Mageia (pt_br) team.</div><div><br></div><div></div></div>
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+<div><br>How can I help with translating the Mageia stuff into dutch.</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Greetz,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwikkle</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwik<br></div>
+<div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/5 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Send Mageia-marketing mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br><br><br>Today&#39;s Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release (Wolfgang Bornath)<br>
+<br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:11:31 +0200<br>From: Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com" target="_blank">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br> &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:BANLkTikpqmGfyCzQDdE66dFsDpw3KUruBw@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">BANLkTikpqmGfyCzQDdE66dFsDpw3KUruBw@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br>2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;:<br>
+&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Comments inside:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Thanks Wobo... now, you got any way of magicking up some more people<br>&gt; to do it? 8-)<br><br>To do what?<br>Translators and local spreaders are the same and they are ready to go.<br>
+<br>--<br>wobo<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br><br><br>End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4<br>**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+<div><br>How can I help with translating the Mageia stuff into dutch.</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Greetz,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwikkle</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwik<br></div>
+<div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/5 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Send Mageia-marketing mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br><br><br>Today&#39;s Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release (Wolfgang Bornath)<br>
+<br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:11:31 +0200<br>From: Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com" target="_blank">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br> &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:BANLkTikpqmGfyCzQDdE66dFsDpw3KUruBw@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">BANLkTikpqmGfyCzQDdE66dFsDpw3KUruBw@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br>2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;:<br>
+&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Comments inside:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Thanks Wobo... now, you got any way of magicking up some more people<br>&gt; to do it? 8-)<br><br>To do what?<br>Translators and local spreaders are the same and they are ready to go.<br>
+<br>--<br>wobo<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br><br><br>End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4<br>**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+ 1. test days announce on the blog (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:49:49 +0200<br>
+From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br>
+ &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;BANLkTi=XjbG=8hn1oqmSwgqSCsHXGG3=<a href="mailto:Pw@mail.gmail.com">Pw@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
+<br>
+Hi there,<br>
+<br>
+[...]<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+2 test days are organized on 11th and 12th of April, focused on beta 1<br>
+ISOs and following targets:<br>
+<br>
+- list of included softwares in ISOs and repositories: file a bug if<br>
+you see one missing and explain why we should add it;<br>
+- upgrade from Mandriva Linux 2010.1 and 2010.2: our target is to<br>
+have easy upgrade for final release. Tests are really important.<br>
+Please have a look on the upgrade test page;<br></blockquote><div><br><br>I agree with the remark, that test are indeed important. <br>I think it is important to let&#39;s choose, what kind of apps, software, packages people are like to use before<br>
+asking them about partioning of the hard drive. To figure out what the best partition scheme is, is not the most easiest task.<br><br>Further the functionality mass renaming should be added by the PCManfilemanager. The same functionality thunar in XFCE has.<br>
+</div><div><br><br>Zwikkle <br></div></div><br>
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+ 1. test days announce on the blog (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:49:49 +0200<br>
+From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br>
+ &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;BANLkTi=XjbG=8hn1oqmSwgqSCsHXGG3=<a href="mailto:Pw@mail.gmail.com">Pw@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
+<br>
+Hi there,<br>
+<br>
+[...]<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+2 test days are organized on 11th and 12th of April, focused on beta 1<br>
+ISOs and following targets:<br>
+<br>
+- list of included softwares in ISOs and repositories: file a bug if<br>
+you see one missing and explain why we should add it;<br>
+- upgrade from Mandriva Linux 2010.1 and 2010.2: our target is to<br>
+have easy upgrade for final release. Tests are really important.<br>
+Please have a look on the upgrade test page;<br></blockquote><div><br><br>I agree with the remark, that test are indeed important. <br>I think it is important to let&#39;s choose, what kind of apps, software, packages people are like to use before<br>
+asking them about partioning of the hard drive. To figure out what the best partition scheme is, is not the most easiest task.<br><br>Further the functionality mass renaming should be added by the PCManfilemanager. The same functionality thunar in XFCE has.<br>
+</div><div><br><br>Zwikkle <br></div></div><br>
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+<br><br>
+<div class="gmail_quote">
+<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote"> 2. Re: Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13; installation of<br> Mageia (Patricia Fraser)<br> 3. Re: test days announce on the blog (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br>
+ 4. Re: test days announce on the blog (Wolfgang Bornath)<br> 5. Re: test days announce on the blog (Anne nicolas)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br><br><br>Message: 2<br>
+Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 01:05:42 +0200<br>From: Patricia Fraser &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;<br>To: <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue<br>
+ 13; installation of Mageia<br>Message-ID: &lt;20110408010542.00003175@unknown&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;us-ascii&quot;<br><br>Hi Zwikkle,<br><br><br>&gt; I agree with the remark, that test are indeed important.<br>
+&gt; I think it is important to let&#39;s choose, what kind of apps, software,<br>&gt; packages people are like to use before<br>&gt; asking them about partioning of the hard drive. To figure out what<br>&gt; the best partition scheme is, is not the most easiest task.<br>
+&gt;<br>&gt; Further the functionality mass renaming should be added by the<br>&gt; PCManfilemanager. The same functionality thunar in XFCE has.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Zwikkle<br><br><br>This is really not the he best place for this report - the devel list<br>
+would be better. Nothing is going to happen as a result of<br>bugreports/wish lists sent to the marketing list.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>--<br>Patricia Fraser<br></blockquote>
+<div>How can I reach the devel list. I am not a developer. I am interested in good package selection. I am interested which packages will</div>
+<div>be selected in the standard installation.What will be the release cycle of Mageia. How long will the first stable release of Mageia be supported by updates.</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Further I like to know what kind of promotion material is available for the spread of Mageia. What kind of adds the Mageia marketing team is intended to place in magazines. What kind of atomosphere would Mageia like to show to people. Personally, I am thinking of the slogan: &quot;Get inspiredat Mageian way.&quot; Mageia should be something to inspire individual people and organisations.</div>
+
+<div></div>
+<div>greetz,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwikkle</div></div>
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+<br><br>
+<div class="gmail_quote">
+<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote"> 2. Re: Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13; installation of<br> Mageia (Patricia Fraser)<br> 3. Re: test days announce on the blog (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br>
+ 4. Re: test days announce on the blog (Wolfgang Bornath)<br> 5. Re: test days announce on the blog (Anne nicolas)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br><br><br>Message: 2<br>
+Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 01:05:42 +0200<br>From: Patricia Fraser &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;<br>To: <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue<br>
+ 13; installation of Mageia<br>Message-ID: &lt;20110408010542.00003175@unknown&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;us-ascii&quot;<br><br>Hi Zwikkle,<br><br><br>&gt; I agree with the remark, that test are indeed important.<br>
+&gt; I think it is important to let&#39;s choose, what kind of apps, software,<br>&gt; packages people are like to use before<br>&gt; asking them about partioning of the hard drive. To figure out what<br>&gt; the best partition scheme is, is not the most easiest task.<br>
+&gt;<br>&gt; Further the functionality mass renaming should be added by the<br>&gt; PCManfilemanager. The same functionality thunar in XFCE has.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Zwikkle<br><br><br>This is really not the he best place for this report - the devel list<br>
+would be better. Nothing is going to happen as a result of<br>bugreports/wish lists sent to the marketing list.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>--<br>Patricia Fraser<br></blockquote>
+<div>How can I reach the devel list. I am not a developer. I am interested in good package selection. I am interested which packages will</div>
+<div>be selected in the standard installation.What will be the release cycle of Mageia. How long will the first stable release of Mageia be supported by updates.</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Further I like to know what kind of promotion material is available for the spread of Mageia. What kind of adds the Mageia marketing team is intended to place in magazines. What kind of atomosphere would Mageia like to show to people. Personally, I am thinking of the slogan: &quot;Get inspiredat Mageian way.&quot; Mageia should be something to inspire individual people and organisations.</div>
+
+<div></div>
+<div>greetz,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwikkle</div></div>
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+<div>I designed my own alfabet. These are SVG-files. Where can I upload my files. Perhaps I can make them up in the right text and</div>
+<div>transform them into PDF. </div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Greetz Zwikkle<br><br></div>
+<div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/11 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Send Mageia-marketing mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br><br><br>Today&#39;s Topics:<br><br> 1. PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono (Damien Lallement)<br>
+<br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:12:11 +0200<br>From: Damien Lallement &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia@damsweb.net">mageia@damsweb.net</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org">mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a>, <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>Subject: [Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:4DA2B7DB.9060304@damsweb.net">4DA2B7DB.9060304@damsweb.net</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br><br>Hello artwork and marketing team,<br><br>For a lot of incoming events, Mageia.Org will have a kakemono to spread<br>
+Mageia to people on events booths. For this kakemono, I need a file with<br>the following requirements:<br>- PDF file.<br>- 80 cm x 200 cm for the visual (this size exactly!).<br>- something easy to read and easy to understand to explain Mageia.Org<br>
+and Mageia.<br>- something quite generic to be easily reusable in the coming years.<br><br>Please send your proposals by replying to this mail.<br>Deadline for the PDF is: Monday the 18th of April.<br><br>Cheers,<br>--<br>
+Damien Lallement<br>aka &quot;damsweb&quot; or &quot;coincoin&quot; on IRC and twitter<br><br><a href="http://www.mageia.org/" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br><br>End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17<br>***********************************************<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+<div>I designed my own alfabet. These are SVG-files. Where can I upload my files. Perhaps I can make them up in the right text and</div>
+<div>transform them into PDF. </div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Greetz Zwikkle<br><br></div>
+<div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/11 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Send Mageia-marketing mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br><br><br>Today&#39;s Topics:<br><br> 1. PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono (Damien Lallement)<br>
+<br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:12:11 +0200<br>From: Damien Lallement &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia@damsweb.net">mageia@damsweb.net</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org">mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a>, <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>Subject: [Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:4DA2B7DB.9060304@damsweb.net">4DA2B7DB.9060304@damsweb.net</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br><br>Hello artwork and marketing team,<br><br>For a lot of incoming events, Mageia.Org will have a kakemono to spread<br>
+Mageia to people on events booths. For this kakemono, I need a file with<br>the following requirements:<br>- PDF file.<br>- 80 cm x 200 cm for the visual (this size exactly!).<br>- something easy to read and easy to understand to explain Mageia.Org<br>
+and Mageia.<br>- something quite generic to be easily reusable in the coming years.<br><br>Please send your proposals by replying to this mail.<br>Deadline for the PDF is: Monday the 18th of April.<br><br>Cheers,<br>--<br>
+Damien Lallement<br>aka &quot;damsweb&quot; or &quot;coincoin&quot; on IRC and twitter<br><br><a href="http://www.mageia.org/" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br><br>End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17<br>***********************************************<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+----Messaggio originale----<br>Da: rdalverny@gmail.com<br>Data: 19-apr-2011 10.07<br>A: "Mageia marketing team discussion list"&lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt;<br>Ogg: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people<br><br>On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 00:51, Romain d'Alverny &lt;rdalverny@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 00:00, Marcello Anni &lt;marcello.anni@alice.it&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; as i have already told you in the previous e-mail, i think we first need to<br>&gt;&gt; setup a complete marketing plan that will driver our everyday action.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Very little things in life go "by the plan". It does not mean plans<br>&gt; are useless but that we need to know when to start/change things/plans<br>&gt; - that's culture.<br><br>Just to make sure. I'm not saying you shouldn't build a plan neither<br>discuss it with the team here and others. We need a plan. And your<br>draft structure looks good.<br><br>But be careful to keep it as small/focused as possible, practical with<br>clear objectives per milestones and with actual action dates (so we<br>can retro-plan, say starting with RC release - yes, that's short).<br>Both for the final release in June, and for the long term (brainstorm<br>session to design for this Summer &amp; the project per-se).<br><br>Romain<br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br>https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing<br><br></blockquote>sure, as you can see in the marketing plan we have a mid-term action plan and a short-term one. the current situation will be taken in consideration to elaborate our strategies, in both plans. naturally in the short-term action plan there will be no radical or important change, as the time is running out fast.<br><br>cheers,<br>Marcello<br><br>PS= i tried the installation of the beta 1 and it didn't install a lot of packages (among the others, kde one!), i hope live cds will be out soon!!<br>
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+&gt; [...]<br><br>&gt; I think ennael is on this.<br>
+<br>
+&gt; It&#39;s not so much about &quot;short on material&quot;, there&#39;s a lot which could<br>
+&gt; have been done (like nice CD/DVD labels, a nice screen presentation,<br>
+&gt; graphical flyer layout with a general text to be translated and used<br>
+&gt; in different countries, etc.<br>
+&gt;[...]<br>&gt; Romain<br>
+<br><br>I agree to this. But it should be easier to upload your stuff and to get in touch <br>of other people while designing the CDEEs.<br>As a shop worker in seconded handed CDROms for computer software, I figure out<br>
+the design of the CD wallet is very important. It should be designed in a fashion people know where Mageia is al about. I think a pictorial way of portraying Mageia is the best solution. I think Ubuntu CD wallets are great in their choice of color, but not attractive in the sense people see pictogrammes, pictures or diagrammes. I believe a nice graphical design would be a great. I have made up some lettres. Perhaps I can get into touch with some who can help us spread Mageia.<br>
+<br>I like to help translate Mageia.<br><br>What are the core keypoints or strongholds of the Mageia distribution. I figure out <br>during the social media session here in Uden (Netherlands). Social media is very important, especially Linkedin, Twitter, etcetera. There was a guy, he talked about TweetDeck. Perhaps such an application should be integrated in the Mageia distro. <br>
+I think Mageia should promote itself by social networks.<br><br><br>Yours faithfully,<br><br>Zwikkle<br><br>
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+&gt; [...]<br><br>&gt; I think ennael is on this.<br>
+<br>
+&gt; It&#39;s not so much about &quot;short on material&quot;, there&#39;s a lot which could<br>
+&gt; have been done (like nice CD/DVD labels, a nice screen presentation,<br>
+&gt; graphical flyer layout with a general text to be translated and used<br>
+&gt; in different countries, etc.<br>
+&gt;[...]<br>&gt; Romain<br>
+<br><br>I agree to this. But it should be easier to upload your stuff and to get in touch <br>of other people while designing the CDEEs.<br>As a shop worker in seconded handed CDROms for computer software, I figure out<br>
+the design of the CD wallet is very important. It should be designed in a fashion people know where Mageia is al about. I think a pictorial way of portraying Mageia is the best solution. I think Ubuntu CD wallets are great in their choice of color, but not attractive in the sense people see pictogrammes, pictures or diagrammes. I believe a nice graphical design would be a great. I have made up some lettres. Perhaps I can get into touch with some who can help us spread Mageia.<br>
+<br>I like to help translate Mageia.<br><br>What are the core keypoints or strongholds of the Mageia distribution. I figure out <br>during the social media session here in Uden (Netherlands). Social media is very important, especially Linkedin, Twitter, etcetera. There was a guy, he talked about TweetDeck. Perhaps such an application should be integrated in the Mageia distro. <br>
+I think Mageia should promote itself by social networks.<br><br><br>Yours faithfully,<br><br>Zwikkle<br><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/17 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+[...]<br>
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+ 1. mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist<br>
+ (Patricia Fraser)<br>
+ 2. Heads-up - release stuff needs to be ready in 2 weeks<br>
+ (Patricia Fraser)<br>
+ 3. Mageia 1 release, some tasks (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br>
+ 4. Re: mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist<br>
+ (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br>
+ 5. Re: Mageia 1 release, some tasks (Patricia Fraser)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Message: 3<br>
+Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 22:30:43 +0200<br>
+From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br>
+ &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;, Mageia Web team discussion list<br>
+ &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-webteam@mageia.org">mageia-webteam@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia 1 release, some tasks<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:BANLkTin7KCL9iMmW%2BxkFioWqQa6q4Nm7Lw@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTin7KCL9iMmW+xkFioWqQa6q4Nm7Lw@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
+<br>
+Hi there,<br>
+<br>
+[...].<br>
+</blockquote><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">For finale release... We have 15 days left and of course, this is very<br>
+
+short a frame for that. But we can do it focusing on the right thing.<br>
+<br>
+* NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the<br>
+product - this section does not exist already, although you will find<br>
+equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product page. Oliver<br>
+and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5 pages:<br>
+ - presentation home, main message being, &quot;this is a Linux system for people&quot;<br></blockquote><div><br>Please I would like to see it changed into &quot;It&#39;s all about the free to connect.&quot; Linux is difficult to explain to people. Linux is perceived as something for computer nerds. <br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+ - focus page for users (what do they have useful for them in this,<br>
+what benefits)<br>
+ - focus page for developers (same)<br></blockquote><div>Here you can tell it is a linux distribution <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+ - focus page for contributors (same)<br></blockquote><div>&gt;&gt;&gt; ...no comment at this moment<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+ - focus page for businesses (same)<br></blockquote><div>Here can we talk about social media, sharing knowledge, co-creating and the aspect<br>of intelllectual property rights. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+ - focus page on technical specs, requirements<br>
+<br></blockquote><div>no comment at this moment <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+* NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will<br>
+refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided,<br>
+as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.<br>
+<br></blockquote><div><br>we need to show which package are in the default section [especially the [patentented] multimedia codecs], which is the user-functionality for a certain package. LibreOffice is for writing, presentations and making tables for presenting useful business data. We also need to have meta-packages. especialy the following fields need our attention:<br>
+- multimedia on the web [codecs, HTML5, the possibility to record videostreams &lt;streamripper&gt;<br>- social media &lt;TweetDesk&gt;<br>- security &lt;privacy, anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-phising&gt;<br>We need to cut the ISO-size as much as possible. The liveCD should have a full desktop environment on the screen within 30 seconds.<br>
+[...] <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<br>
+Romain<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+--<br></blockquote></div>greetz Zwikkle &gt;&gt; my comments on purposal Romain<br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/17 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+[...]<br>
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+ 1. mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist<br>
+ (Patricia Fraser)<br>
+ 2. Heads-up - release stuff needs to be ready in 2 weeks<br>
+ (Patricia Fraser)<br>
+ 3. Mageia 1 release, some tasks (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br>
+ 4. Re: mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist<br>
+ (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br>
+ 5. Re: Mageia 1 release, some tasks (Patricia Fraser)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Message: 3<br>
+Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 22:30:43 +0200<br>
+From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br>
+ &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;, Mageia Web team discussion list<br>
+ &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-webteam@mageia.org">mageia-webteam@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia 1 release, some tasks<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:BANLkTin7KCL9iMmW%2BxkFioWqQa6q4Nm7Lw@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTin7KCL9iMmW+xkFioWqQa6q4Nm7Lw@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
+<br>
+Hi there,<br>
+<br>
+[...].<br>
+</blockquote><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">For finale release... We have 15 days left and of course, this is very<br>
+
+short a frame for that. But we can do it focusing on the right thing.<br>
+<br>
+* NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the<br>
+product - this section does not exist already, although you will find<br>
+equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product page. Oliver<br>
+and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5 pages:<br>
+ - presentation home, main message being, &quot;this is a Linux system for people&quot;<br></blockquote><div><br>Please I would like to see it changed into &quot;It&#39;s all about the free to connect.&quot; Linux is difficult to explain to people. Linux is perceived as something for computer nerds. <br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+ - focus page for users (what do they have useful for them in this,<br>
+what benefits)<br>
+ - focus page for developers (same)<br></blockquote><div>Here you can tell it is a linux distribution <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+ - focus page for contributors (same)<br></blockquote><div>&gt;&gt;&gt; ...no comment at this moment<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+ - focus page for businesses (same)<br></blockquote><div>Here can we talk about social media, sharing knowledge, co-creating and the aspect<br>of intelllectual property rights. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+ - focus page on technical specs, requirements<br>
+<br></blockquote><div>no comment at this moment <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+* NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will<br>
+refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided,<br>
+as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.<br>
+<br></blockquote><div><br>we need to show which package are in the default section [especially the [patentented] multimedia codecs], which is the user-functionality for a certain package. LibreOffice is for writing, presentations and making tables for presenting useful business data. We also need to have meta-packages. especialy the following fields need our attention:<br>
+- multimedia on the web [codecs, HTML5, the possibility to record videostreams &lt;streamripper&gt;<br>- social media &lt;TweetDesk&gt;<br>- security &lt;privacy, anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-phising&gt;<br>We need to cut the ISO-size as much as possible. The liveCD should have a full desktop environment on the screen within 30 seconds.<br>
+[...] <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<br>
+Romain<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+--<br></blockquote></div>greetz Zwikkle &gt;&gt; my comments on purposal Romain<br>
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+Message: 3<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 23:56:53 +0200<br>
+From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rda@mageia.org">rda@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br>
+ &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue<br>
+ 7; website - The average Mageia User<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:BANLkTimHO8YcYqxRM35NtEHtD17f0Qz5Gg@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTimHO8YcYqxRM35NtEHtD17f0Qz5Gg@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
+<br>
+On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 21:59, suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;&gt; ?* NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the<br>
+&gt;&gt; product - this section does not exist already, although you will find<br>
+&gt;&gt; equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product page. Oliver<br>
+&gt;&gt; and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5 pages:<br>
+&gt;&gt; ?- presentation home, main message being, &quot;this is a Linux system for<br>
+&gt;&gt; people&quot;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Please I would like to see it changed into &quot;It&#39;s all about the free to<br>
+&gt; connect.&quot; Linux is difficult to explain to people. Linux is perceived as<br>
+&gt; something for computer nerds.<br>
+<br>
+That may not be necessarily the goal of Mageia 1 to change that<br>
+though. We&#39;re 2 weeks into the final release, building up from scratch<br>
+a release message<br></blockquote><div><br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+Anyway, could you elaborate on the &quot;it&#39;s all about the free to<br>
+connect&quot; thing? I don&#39;t get the idea/meaning.<br>
+<br></blockquote><div>I made a mistype, I do mean &quot;it&#39;s all about the freedom to connect.&quot; I think Mageia should be about:<br>- connecting &gt;&gt;&gt; social media<br>- freedom &gt;&gt; co-creating<br>- entertainment<br>
+- usability<br>- the (user) experience<br>We have to broaden our user base. We <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+&gt;&gt; ?- focus page for businesses (same)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Here can we talk about social media, sharing knowledge, co-creating and the<br>
+&gt; aspect of intelllectual property rights.<br>
+<br>
+That&#39;s more for contributors than businesses.<br>
+<br>
+&gt;&gt; ?* NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will<br>
+&gt;&gt; refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided,<br>
+&gt;&gt; as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; We also need to have meta-packages.<br>
+&gt; especialy the following fields need our attention:<br>
+&gt; - multimedia on the web [codecs, HTML5, the possibility to record<br>
+&gt; videostreams &lt;streamripper&gt;<br>
+&gt; - social media &lt;TweetDesk&gt;<br>
+&gt; - security &lt;privacy, anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-phising&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; We need to cut the ISO-size as much as possible. The liveCD should have a<br>
+&gt; full desktop environment on the screen within 30 seconds.<br>
+<br>
+Although that&#39;s interesting, this is not the kind of need you assess<br>
+13 days before the final release. File bugs for Mageia 2 if you like,<br>
+but here it&#39;s not on the list for Mageia 1. <br>
+<br>
+Romain<br>
+<br></blockquote><div>I&#39;m not a bug tester, programmer or professional software tester. But I have tried many linux distributions. I was a great fan of Linux Mandrake, I like YAST in the old SUSE. My biggest complaint about all these distributions:<br>
+- virtual desktops are great<br>- slow loading of the desktop<br>- bad support of patented multimedia codecs<br><br>I thought and am thing now, Linux should be very quick operating system, low hardware requirements. Linux should be fun to use. Get things done easily, not difficult and frustating to use.<br>
+<br><br>Greetz,<br><br>Zwikkle <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 8<br>
+**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote><br></div><br>
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+Message: 3<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 23:56:53 +0200<br>
+From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rda@mageia.org">rda@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br>
+ &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue<br>
+ 7; website - The average Mageia User<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:BANLkTimHO8YcYqxRM35NtEHtD17f0Qz5Gg@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTimHO8YcYqxRM35NtEHtD17f0Qz5Gg@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
+<br>
+On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 21:59, suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;&gt; ?* NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the<br>
+&gt;&gt; product - this section does not exist already, although you will find<br>
+&gt;&gt; equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product page. Oliver<br>
+&gt;&gt; and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5 pages:<br>
+&gt;&gt; ?- presentation home, main message being, &quot;this is a Linux system for<br>
+&gt;&gt; people&quot;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Please I would like to see it changed into &quot;It&#39;s all about the free to<br>
+&gt; connect.&quot; Linux is difficult to explain to people. Linux is perceived as<br>
+&gt; something for computer nerds.<br>
+<br>
+That may not be necessarily the goal of Mageia 1 to change that<br>
+though. We&#39;re 2 weeks into the final release, building up from scratch<br>
+a release message<br></blockquote><div><br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+Anyway, could you elaborate on the &quot;it&#39;s all about the free to<br>
+connect&quot; thing? I don&#39;t get the idea/meaning.<br>
+<br></blockquote><div>I made a mistype, I do mean &quot;it&#39;s all about the freedom to connect.&quot; I think Mageia should be about:<br>- connecting &gt;&gt;&gt; social media<br>- freedom &gt;&gt; co-creating<br>- entertainment<br>
+- usability<br>- the (user) experience<br>We have to broaden our user base. We <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+&gt;&gt; ?- focus page for businesses (same)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Here can we talk about social media, sharing knowledge, co-creating and the<br>
+&gt; aspect of intelllectual property rights.<br>
+<br>
+That&#39;s more for contributors than businesses.<br>
+<br>
+&gt;&gt; ?* NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will<br>
+&gt;&gt; refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided,<br>
+&gt;&gt; as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; We also need to have meta-packages.<br>
+&gt; especialy the following fields need our attention:<br>
+&gt; - multimedia on the web [codecs, HTML5, the possibility to record<br>
+&gt; videostreams &lt;streamripper&gt;<br>
+&gt; - social media &lt;TweetDesk&gt;<br>
+&gt; - security &lt;privacy, anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-phising&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; We need to cut the ISO-size as much as possible. The liveCD should have a<br>
+&gt; full desktop environment on the screen within 30 seconds.<br>
+<br>
+Although that&#39;s interesting, this is not the kind of need you assess<br>
+13 days before the final release. File bugs for Mageia 2 if you like,<br>
+but here it&#39;s not on the list for Mageia 1. <br>
+<br>
+Romain<br>
+<br></blockquote><div>I&#39;m not a bug tester, programmer or professional software tester. But I have tried many linux distributions. I was a great fan of Linux Mandrake, I like YAST in the old SUSE. My biggest complaint about all these distributions:<br>
+- virtual desktops are great<br>- slow loading of the desktop<br>- bad support of patented multimedia codecs<br><br>I thought and am thing now, Linux should be very quick operating system, low hardware requirements. Linux should be fun to use. Get things done easily, not difficult and frustating to use.<br>
+<br><br>Greetz,<br><br>Zwikkle <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 8<br>
+**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote><br></div><br>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- anything else you find interesting for future Mageia users.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
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+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Waiting for them desparately in the remaining days until release,</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Hi there!</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Webteam desperately needs some help from you!</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">What we do need is some screenshots from Mageia, to be more exactly here are the specifications:</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Format: png 4/3 and 16/9</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Screens are needed of:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- boot screen</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- login screen</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- desktop (empty) for KDE, GNOME and</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- anything else you find interesting for future Mageia users.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">It would be great if you could put them online somewhere (picasa, flickr,...) and send us the links to the mailing lists.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Waiting for them desparately in the remaining days until release,</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Hi there!</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Webteam desperately needs some help from you!</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">What we do need is some screenshots from Mageia, to be more exactly here are the specifications:</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Format: png 4/3 and 16/9</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Screens are needed of:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- boot screen</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- login screen</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- desktop (empty) for KDE, GNOME and</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- anything else you find interesting for future Mageia users.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">It would be great if you could put them online somewhere (picasa, flickr,...) and send us the links to the mailing lists.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Waiting for them desparately in the remaining days until release,</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+Hi there<div><br></div><div>Here is the discussion about release cycle. Please have a look and give any comments on mageia-dev</div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><a href="https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-June/005442.html">https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-June/005442.html</a></div>
+<div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><br>-- <br>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br>
+</div>
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+Hi there<div><br></div><div>Here is the discussion about release cycle. Please have a look and give any comments on mageia-dev</div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><a href="https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-June/005442.html">https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-June/005442.html</a></div>
+<div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><br>-- <br>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br>
+</div>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd">
+<html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><style type="text/css">
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">(this is a copy of the mail sent to the packagers mailing list mageia-dev. I'm sending it to the marcom team too because I thing that marcom people could be fit for the job)</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Hello to everyone,</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I'm sure there's someone among you who wants to help Mageia but hasn't found </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">yet the good way to do it. Today is your lucky day, because there's a job </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">that's available and can be really useful and interesting: coordinating the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">packagers mentoring program.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">You know that one key point of success for Mageia is in the ability to welcome </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">new packagers. The better we will be at it, the better the distro will be. The </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">packagers mentoring program has been created for that reason and several </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">packagers have been or are being mentored. But we have some difficulty knowing </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">who is being mentored by who and who hasn't found a mentor. And we need also </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">to find more mentors and more apprentices.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">During a packagers weekly meeting, misc invited us to read the following </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">article about mentoring programs in open-source projects: </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/05/31/effective-mentoring-programs/</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I invite those who haven't read it yet, to read it. I'll quote one of the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">mentoring best practices that were given: &quot;In bigger projects, keeping track </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">of who is a mentor, and who is mentoring who, and inviting new mentors, and </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">ensuring that no-one falls through the cracks when a mentor gets too busy, is </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">a job of itself.&quot;</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I'm looking for someone who could fill that &quot;job&quot;.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Description of the job:</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- keep track of:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- who's being mentored by who, how well it's going</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- who needs a mentor and hasn't found one yet (this is one of the most </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">important parts: no volunteer must be forgotten, volunteers are too precious </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">!)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- who can mentor more apprentices (and sometimes convince packagers to become </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">mentors or accept one more apprentice)</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- be available for questions from apprentices or mentors, by mail, and if </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">possible, to be present on the IRC channel #mageia-mentoring on freenode</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- help mentors with gathering &quot;junior tasks&quot; (bugzilla is a never empty </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">reserve that can be used for that. Maybe ask the bug triage team to help </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">identify such tasks. Maybe a &quot;junior task&quot; keyword in bugzilla would do the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">trick)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- small bugs to fix</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- new small packages to import in the distribution</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- backports</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- promote mentoring (empower users into contributers. Working with the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">marketing team would be great I think):</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- make the mentoring program known (MLs, forums, web, etc.)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- look for new apprentices</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- look for new mentors</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Some useful skills:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- be autonomous (ie no need to check that you're doing the work)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- good written english (communication is very important in this job)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- knowledge about packaging is a plus but not mandatory (the key aspects can </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">be taught to you)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- being or having been a mentor, or having been mentored would be a plus, but </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">not mandatory</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">More information about the job:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- does not require a big amount of work, but real committment to the task and </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">regularity</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- remember that you have a coordination role, not an authoritative role. The </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">difference in that is that you're not here to give orders but to facilitate the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">mentoring program.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- you don't have to be alone to do this job if it's too much for one person: </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">you can find other helpful people wanting to help you if needed and rely on the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">other teams (but finding them is part of your job ;) ).</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- this &quot;job offer&quot; concerns everything that revolves around the mentoring of </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">new packagers, but if it's successful maybe other teams can follow the same </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">approach (i18n, QA, etc... ).</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- depending on your level of confidence, experience and will, you could be </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">helped in your work. Maybe someone from the council can supervise and help you </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">at least at the beginning; or, if no one steps up, I can help you bootstrap </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">and organize your new &quot;job&quot;.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">So, who's in?</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">(this is a copy of the mail sent to the packagers mailing list mageia-dev. I'm sending it to the marcom team too because I thing that marcom people could be fit for the job)</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Hello to everyone,</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I'm sure there's someone among you who wants to help Mageia but hasn't found </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">yet the good way to do it. Today is your lucky day, because there's a job </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">that's available and can be really useful and interesting: coordinating the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">packagers mentoring program.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">You know that one key point of success for Mageia is in the ability to welcome </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">new packagers. The better we will be at it, the better the distro will be. The </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">packagers mentoring program has been created for that reason and several </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">packagers have been or are being mentored. But we have some difficulty knowing </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">who is being mentored by who and who hasn't found a mentor. And we need also </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">to find more mentors and more apprentices.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">During a packagers weekly meeting, misc invited us to read the following </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">article about mentoring programs in open-source projects: </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/05/31/effective-mentoring-programs/</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I invite those who haven't read it yet, to read it. I'll quote one of the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">mentoring best practices that were given: &quot;In bigger projects, keeping track </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">of who is a mentor, and who is mentoring who, and inviting new mentors, and </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">ensuring that no-one falls through the cracks when a mentor gets too busy, is </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">a job of itself.&quot;</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I'm looking for someone who could fill that &quot;job&quot;.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Description of the job:</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- keep track of:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- who's being mentored by who, how well it's going</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- who needs a mentor and hasn't found one yet (this is one of the most </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">important parts: no volunteer must be forgotten, volunteers are too precious </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">!)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- who can mentor more apprentices (and sometimes convince packagers to become </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">mentors or accept one more apprentice)</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- be available for questions from apprentices or mentors, by mail, and if </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">possible, to be present on the IRC channel #mageia-mentoring on freenode</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- help mentors with gathering &quot;junior tasks&quot; (bugzilla is a never empty </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">reserve that can be used for that. Maybe ask the bug triage team to help </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">identify such tasks. Maybe a &quot;junior task&quot; keyword in bugzilla would do the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">trick)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- small bugs to fix</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- new small packages to import in the distribution</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- backports</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- promote mentoring (empower users into contributers. Working with the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">marketing team would be great I think):</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- make the mentoring program known (MLs, forums, web, etc.)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- look for new apprentices</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- look for new mentors</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Some useful skills:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- be autonomous (ie no need to check that you're doing the work)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- good written english (communication is very important in this job)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- knowledge about packaging is a plus but not mandatory (the key aspects can </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">be taught to you)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- being or having been a mentor, or having been mentored would be a plus, but </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">not mandatory</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">More information about the job:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- does not require a big amount of work, but real committment to the task and </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">regularity</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- remember that you have a coordination role, not an authoritative role. The </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">difference in that is that you're not here to give orders but to facilitate the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">mentoring program.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- you don't have to be alone to do this job if it's too much for one person: </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">you can find other helpful people wanting to help you if needed and rely on the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">other teams (but finding them is part of your job ;) ).</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- this &quot;job offer&quot; concerns everything that revolves around the mentoring of </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">new packagers, but if it's successful maybe other teams can follow the same </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">approach (i18n, QA, etc... ).</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- depending on your level of confidence, experience and will, you could be </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">helped in your work. Maybe someone from the council can supervise and help you </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">at least at the beginning; or, if no one steps up, I can help you bootstrap </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">and organize your new &quot;job&quot;.</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">So, who's in?</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Samuel Verschelde</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Thorsten van Lil &lt;tvl83@gmx.de&gt; schrieb am 16.06.2011</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Am 16.06.2011 15:21, schrieb Oliver Burger:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; ...&quot; where they can post without a registration etc.?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; How fast can you run, when any of the sysadmins read this? :D</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Pff, I'm not chicken-hearted. I will calm them with my charm ...</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; and tonnes of chocolate probably :D</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Stay away from public places with big fires in the middle :D</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">No, coming to the point. Some kind of form - like Wobo described - could be done relatively simple I think.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">We could make it send text-only data via mail to people in charge (marcomm?).</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I would recommend not using any automatism without moderators, because that way we might open our website to rubbish (and give some people heart attacks).</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Thorsten van Lil &lt;tvl83@gmx.de&gt; schrieb am 16.06.2011</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Am 16.06.2011 15:21, schrieb Oliver Burger:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; ...&quot; where they can post without a registration etc.?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; How fast can you run, when any of the sysadmins read this? :D</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Pff, I'm not chicken-hearted. I will calm them with my charm ...</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; and tonnes of chocolate probably :D</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Stay away from public places with big fires in the middle :D</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">No, coming to the point. Some kind of form - like Wobo described - could be done relatively simple I think.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">We could make it send text-only data via mail to people in charge (marcomm?).</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I would recommend not using any automatism without moderators, because that way we might open our website to rubbish (and give some people heart attacks).</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Thorsten van Lil &lt;tvl83@gmx.de&gt; schrieb am 16.06.2011</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Am 16.06.2011 15:09, schrieb Patricia Fraser:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; Pls see https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=568</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; I lost track of all the ideas which were written in mails so</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; far, so I am not sure if this was already proposed.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; This is a *brilliant* idea. I wonder if we could have a forum</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; group called &quot;Mageia Saves the Day&quot; and encourage people to post</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; there? Then we could put a few recent ones on the website and</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; add a link...</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Good idea, let's see how long it needs to get this sub forum :/</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; What about a special page (like a guestbook) &quot;Stories with Mageia</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; ...&quot; where they can post without a registration etc.?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">How fast can you run, when any of the sysadmins read this? :D</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Thorsten van Lil &lt;tvl83@gmx.de&gt; schrieb am 16.06.2011</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Am 16.06.2011 15:09, schrieb Patricia Fraser:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; Pls see https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=568</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; I lost track of all the ideas which were written in mails so</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; far, so I am not sure if this was already proposed.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; This is a *brilliant* idea. I wonder if we could have a forum</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; group called &quot;Mageia Saves the Day&quot; and encourage people to post</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; there? Then we could put a few recent ones on the website and</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; add a link...</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Good idea, let's see how long it needs to get this sub forum :/</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; What about a special page (like a guestbook) &quot;Stories with Mageia</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; ...&quot; where they can post without a registration etc.?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">How fast can you run, when any of the sysadmins read this? :D</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Hi Trish (hi others),</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">somebody posted another press review about Mga1 in the forums. Here you are:</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/06/18/mageia-1-0-review/</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd">
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Hi Trish (hi others),</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">somebody posted another press review about Mga1 in the forums. Here you are:</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/06/18/mageia-1-0-review/</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+Best Mageia poeple,<div><br></div><div>I found it an useful review. I learn something new. I learn about the filesystem NILFS. I agree with the writer only fuly functional programmes should be in the Mageia distribution. Better to have less programmes in the repositories and working well than have a lot of crap packages. It is very frustating to have programmes which are not usable very well.</div>
+<div>I disagree with the point to abandon the CD-release. There should a CD-release available. Perhaps a CD-release with the XFCE-desktop. I prefer this desktop-environment above GNOME, because the great tool mass renaming in Thunar file manager. I also like E17, because it is very customizable. There should come metapackages for example multimedia-support with all the codecs and necessary plugins for Firefox, Chromium browser and other browsers integrated in it.</div>
+<div><br></div><div>GReetz,</div><div><br></div><div>Zwikkle</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">[...]<br>
+
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+ 1. Another review for the list (Oliver Burger)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:30:19 +0200<br>
+From: Oliver Burger &lt;<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Another review for the list<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:201106191930.19251.oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">201106191930.19251.oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;<br>
+<br>
+Hi Trish (hi others),<br>
+<br>
+somebody posted another press review about Mga1 in the forums. Here<br>
+you are:<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/06/18/mageia-1-0-review/" target="_blank">http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/06/18/mageia-1-0-review/</a><br>
+<br>
+Oliver<br>
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+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 8, Issue 12<br>
+***********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+Best Mageia poeple,<div><br></div><div>I found it an useful review. I learn something new. I learn about the filesystem NILFS. I agree with the writer only fuly functional programmes should be in the Mageia distribution. Better to have less programmes in the repositories and working well than have a lot of crap packages. It is very frustating to have programmes which are not usable very well.</div>
+<div>I disagree with the point to abandon the CD-release. There should a CD-release available. Perhaps a CD-release with the XFCE-desktop. I prefer this desktop-environment above GNOME, because the great tool mass renaming in Thunar file manager. I also like E17, because it is very customizable. There should come metapackages for example multimedia-support with all the codecs and necessary plugins for Firefox, Chromium browser and other browsers integrated in it.</div>
+<div><br></div><div>GReetz,</div><div><br></div><div>Zwikkle</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">[...]<br>
+
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+ 1. Another review for the list (Oliver Burger)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:30:19 +0200<br>
+From: Oliver Burger &lt;<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Another review for the list<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:201106191930.19251.oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">201106191930.19251.oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;<br>
+<br>
+Hi Trish (hi others),<br>
+<br>
+somebody posted another press review about Mga1 in the forums. Here<br>
+you are:<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/06/18/mageia-1-0-review/" target="_blank">http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/06/18/mageia-1-0-review/</a><br>
+<br>
+Oliver<br>
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+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 8, Issue 12<br>
+***********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Best people of Mageia,<br><br>I did finally succeed in uploading my self made Apekozzi font on the internet.<br>It is originally for the use of book shelves of 2 centimetres in height. But this font<br>
+is available for free for Mageia users. It is my contribution to the Mageia distribution and community.<br><br>Greetz,<br><br>Zwikkle<br><br>website to see the Apekozzi font for yourself: <br>
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+ <style type="text/css">#toc, .toc, .mw-warning { border: 1px solid rgb(170, 170, 170); background-color: rgb(249, 249, 249); padding: 5px; font-size: 95%; }#toc h2, .toc h2 { display: inline; border: medium none; padding: 0pt; font-size: 100%; font-weight: bold; }#toc #toctitle, .toc #toctitle, #toc .toctitle, .toc .toctitle { text-align: center; }#toc ul, .toc ul { list-style-type: none; list-style-image: none; margin-left: 0pt; padding-left: 0pt; text-align: left; }#toc ul ul, .toc ul ul { margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 2em; }#toc .toctoggle, .toc .toctoggle { font-size: 94%; }body { font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); widows: 2; font-style: normal; text-indent: 0in; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12pt; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; }table { }td { border-collapse: collapse; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; }</style>
+
+ <div>
+ <p><a href="http://inkscapestuff.org/CONTENT/content-files/142905-apekozzi%20font%202011-05%20.svg">http://inkscapestuff.org/CONTENT/content-files/142905-apekozzi%20font%202011-05%20.svg</a></p>
+ </div>
+ <br></div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Best people of Mageia,<br><br>I did finally succeed in uploading my self made Apekozzi font on the internet.<br>It is originally for the use of book shelves of 2 centimetres in height. But this font<br>
+is available for free for Mageia users. It is my contribution to the Mageia distribution and community.<br><br>Greetz,<br><br>Zwikkle<br><br>website to see the Apekozzi font for yourself: <br>
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+ <style type="text/css">#toc, .toc, .mw-warning { border: 1px solid rgb(170, 170, 170); background-color: rgb(249, 249, 249); padding: 5px; font-size: 95%; }#toc h2, .toc h2 { display: inline; border: medium none; padding: 0pt; font-size: 100%; font-weight: bold; }#toc #toctitle, .toc #toctitle, #toc .toctitle, .toc .toctitle { text-align: center; }#toc ul, .toc ul { list-style-type: none; list-style-image: none; margin-left: 0pt; padding-left: 0pt; text-align: left; }#toc ul ul, .toc ul ul { margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 2em; }#toc .toctoggle, .toc .toctoggle { font-size: 94%; }body { font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); widows: 2; font-style: normal; text-indent: 0in; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12pt; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; }table { }td { border-collapse: collapse; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; }</style>
+
+ <div>
+ <p><a href="http://inkscapestuff.org/CONTENT/content-files/142905-apekozzi%20font%202011-05%20.svg">http://inkscapestuff.org/CONTENT/content-files/142905-apekozzi%20font%202011-05%20.svg</a></p>
+ </div>
+ <br></div><br>
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+<font color="#888888">I vote for 10, for the CD. Now, do we have a label?</font><br>
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+<font color="#888888">I vote for 10, for the CD. Now, do we have a label?</font><br>
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+Hi all,<br><br>PLease contact us <br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Best Regards<br><br>William BARNEAU<br><a href="mailto:wbarneau@ekenos.com" target="_blank">wbarneau@ekenos.com</a><br>GSM: +33623722339<br><br>74 avenue des Aygalades<br>
+13014 Marseille-France<br><img src="http://www.ekenos.com/resources/logo+ekenos+detour$C3$A9.png" height="84" width="96"><br><br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.ekenos.com" target="_blank">www.ekenos.com</a></div>
+<div><br>Tel: 0495053845<br>Fax: 09 58 70 75 77<br><br><br><br></div><br>
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+Hi all,<br><br>PLease contact us <br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Best Regards<br><br>William BARNEAU<br><a href="mailto:wbarneau@ekenos.com" target="_blank">wbarneau@ekenos.com</a><br>GSM: +33623722339<br><br>74 avenue des Aygalades<br>
+13014 Marseille-France<br><img src="http://www.ekenos.com/resources/logo+ekenos+detour$C3$A9.png" height="84" width="96"><br><br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.ekenos.com" target="_blank">www.ekenos.com</a></div>
+<div><br>Tel: 0495053845<br>Fax: 09 58 70 75 77<br><br><br><br></div><br>
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+<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div><br></div><div>Please do not add new proposals on that page as it&#39;s coming after deadline. We will put priority on current one. A new wiki page will collect more ideas here: <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification" target="_blank">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</a></div>
+</blockquote><div><br></div><div><a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas</a></div><div>(thanks Stormi)</div><div><br></div></div>-- <br>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br>
+
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+<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div><br></div><div>Please do not add new proposals on that page as it&#39;s coming after deadline. We will put priority on current one. A new wiki page will collect more ideas here: <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification" target="_blank">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</a></div>
+</blockquote><div><br></div><div><a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas</a></div><div>(thanks Stormi)</div><div><br></div></div>-- <br>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br>
+
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+Hi there<div><br></div><div>As said during our last meeting, here is the review for proposed specifications on Mageia wiki. Comments are not about we will do or not (unless it was not reasonable) but:</div><div>- ask for more information when needed</div>
+<div>- give a minimal status</div><div>- ask for discussions when we are talking a very intrusive modification</div><div><br></div><div>So please have a look on this page:</div><div><a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</a></div>
+<div>especially on comments</div><div><br></div><div>Now we need to organize work for all this. As a proposal all specs will be reported in Bugzilla with a given target so that we can follow itin coming months. You can start doing it if you are especially interested in one of them.t prio</div>
+<div><br></div><div>Please do not add new proposals on that page as it&#39;s coming after deadline. We will put priority on current one. A new wiki page will collect more ideas here: <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</a></div>
+<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><br></div><div>Of course as you cnan see all these proposals are implying packagers, QA but also artwork and marcom teams. Stay connected! :)</div><div>
+<br></div><div>If you want to comment these proposals please create one thread /proposal so that we can work on it properly. If you are interested in one of these, add your name on wiki.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div>
+<div><br></div><div>--</div><div>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br>
+</div>
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+Hi there<div><br></div><div>As said during our last meeting, here is the review for proposed specifications on Mageia wiki. Comments are not about we will do or not (unless it was not reasonable) but:</div><div>- ask for more information when needed</div>
+<div>- give a minimal status</div><div>- ask for discussions when we are talking a very intrusive modification</div><div><br></div><div>So please have a look on this page:</div><div><a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</a></div>
+<div>especially on comments</div><div><br></div><div>Now we need to organize work for all this. As a proposal all specs will be reported in Bugzilla with a given target so that we can follow itin coming months. You can start doing it if you are especially interested in one of them.t prio</div>
+<div><br></div><div>Please do not add new proposals on that page as it&#39;s coming after deadline. We will put priority on current one. A new wiki page will collect more ideas here: <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</a></div>
+<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><br></div><div>Of course as you cnan see all these proposals are implying packagers, QA but also artwork and marcom teams. Stay connected! :)</div><div>
+<br></div><div>If you want to comment these proposals please create one thread /proposal so that we can work on it properly. If you are interested in one of these, add your name on wiki.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div>
+<div><br></div><div>--</div><div>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br>
+</div>
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+<p><br>
+Le 28 juil. 2011 18:44, &quot;Romain d&amp;apos;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt; a crit:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Hi there,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; could we wrap up a status for the interviews for the blog? so we know<br>
+&gt; what we have for a next interview, if we should edit it; and if we can<br>
+&gt; dispatch questions to more people. It would be nice if we could push<br>
+&gt; 1/2 interviews (not more) in August and have something for September<br>
+&gt; as well.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Reference doc is here:<br>
+&gt; <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews</a> (with list of<br>
+&gt; people/stacks considered).<br>
+&gt;<br></p>
+<p>I have some answers from mikala<br>
+&gt; Cheers!<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Romain<br>
+&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
+&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+&gt; <a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+&gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</p>
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+<p><br>
+Le 28 juil. 2011 18:44, &quot;Romain d&amp;apos;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt; a crit:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Hi there,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; could we wrap up a status for the interviews for the blog? so we know<br>
+&gt; what we have for a next interview, if we should edit it; and if we can<br>
+&gt; dispatch questions to more people. It would be nice if we could push<br>
+&gt; 1/2 interviews (not more) in August and have something for September<br>
+&gt; as well.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Reference doc is here:<br>
+&gt; <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews</a> (with list of<br>
+&gt; people/stacks considered).<br>
+&gt;<br></p>
+<p>I have some answers from mikala<br>
+&gt; Cheers!<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Romain<br>
+&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
+&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+&gt; <a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+&gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</p>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20110912/51a0a522/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20110912/51a0a522/attachment-0001.html
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">
+<html>
+<head>
+ <title>Erhalte Zugang zu meinen Bildern und mehr</title>
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+ </tr>
+ <tr>
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+ <td height="10" colspan="1">&nbsp;</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td width="30" height="90" bgcolor="#303030">&nbsp;</td>
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+ </table>
+ <br />
+ <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-1" color="#FFFFFF" style="font-size: 12px;">
+ Wolfgang Bornath<br />
+ <font size="-2" style="font-size: 11px;" >
+ männlich - 64 Jahre alt<br />
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+ <br />
+ </td>
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+ <td style="font-size: 13px;" height="90" bgcolor="#efefef"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><font color="#bd0710" size="+2">Hi!</font><br />
+ <br />
+ Ich habe ein Netlog-Profil erstellt und möchte dir (mageia-marketing@mageia.org) Zugang zu meinen neuesten Bilder und mehr geben.
+ <br />
+ <br />
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#BD0710" background="http://s6.netlogstatic.com/v6.00/257745/s/i/mail/btn-gradient.gif">
+ <tr>
+ <td height="3" colspan="4"></td>
+ </tr>
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+ <td><img src="http://s6.netlogstatic.com/v6.00/257745/s/i/mail/btn-logo.gif" width="35" height="35" /></td>
+ <td>
+ <a href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_" style="font-family: Arial, helvetica, 'sans-serif'; color: #ffffff">
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+ <td width="15" rowspan="3" bgcolor="#303030">&nbsp;</td>
+ <td colspan="4" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">&nbsp;</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF">&nbsp;</td>
+ <td valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-2" color="#666666">
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+ Klick <a href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_"><font color="#bd0710">here</font></a> oder kopiere den Link unten in die Adressleiste deines Browsers.<br />
+ <a style="color: #bd0710" href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_"><font color="#bd0710">http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_</font></a></font>
+ <br /><br /><br />
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+ <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-2" color="#666666">
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+ <font color="#bd0710">Click here
+ </font></a>.<br />
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">
+<html>
+<head>
+ <title>Erhalte Zugang zu meinen Bildern und mehr</title>
+</head>
+<body>
+<table width="620" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="line-height:18px;">
+ <tr>
+ <td height="10" colspan="4" bgcolor="#303030">&nbsp;</td>
+ <td height="10" colspan="4">&nbsp;</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td height="10" colspan="3" bgcolor="#303030">&nbsp;</td>
+ <td height="10" colspan="4" bgcolor="#efefef">&nbsp;</td>
+ <td height="10" colspan="1">&nbsp;</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td width="30" height="90" bgcolor="#303030">&nbsp;</td>
+ <td width="115" height="90" valign="top" bgcolor="#303030">
+ <table width="86" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ <tr>
+ <td text-align:"center" style="text-align: center; padding: 3px 0;"><img src="http://de.netlog.com/go/mainphoto/userid=173459874" width="80" height="60" /></td>
+ </tr>
+ </table>
+ <br />
+ <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-1" color="#FFFFFF" style="font-size: 12px;">
+ Wolfgang Bornath<br />
+ <font size="-2" style="font-size: 11px;" >
+ männlich - 64 Jahre alt<br />
+ Hessen</font></font><br /><br />
+ <br />
+ </td>
+ <td width="20" height="90" valign="top" bgcolor="#303030"><img src="http://s6.netlogstatic.com/v6.00/4098/s/i/mail/balloon-point.gif" width="20" height="55" align="top"></td>
+ <td width="15" height="90" bgcolor="#efefef">&nbsp;</td>
+ <td width="15" height="90" bgcolor="#efefef">&nbsp;</td>
+ <td style="font-size: 13px;" height="90" bgcolor="#efefef"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><font color="#bd0710" size="+2">Hi!</font><br />
+ <br />
+ Ich habe ein Netlog-Profil erstellt und möchte dir (mageia-marketing@mageia.org) Zugang zu meinen neuesten Bilder und mehr geben.
+ <br />
+ <br />
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#BD0710" background="http://s6.netlogstatic.com/v6.00/257745/s/i/mail/btn-gradient.gif">
+ <tr>
+ <td height="3" colspan="4"></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td>&nbsp;</td>
+ <td><img src="http://s6.netlogstatic.com/v6.00/257745/s/i/mail/btn-logo.gif" width="35" height="35" /></td>
+ <td>
+ <a href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_" style="font-family: Arial, helvetica, 'sans-serif'; color: #ffffff">
+ <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="+1" color="#FFFFFF">Verbinde dich mit Wolfgang</font>
+ </a>
+ </td>
+ <td width="10">&nbsp;</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td height="3" colspan="4"></td>
+ </tr>
+ </table>
+ <br />
+ <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-1" style="font-size: 13px;" color="#666666">
+ Hallo, <br />Wolfgang </font>
+ </td>
+ <td width="15" bgcolor="#efefef">&nbsp;</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td colspan="3" rowspan="4" bgcolor="#303030">&nbsp;</td>
+ <td width="15" bgcolor="#efefef">&nbsp;</td>
+ <td colspan="2" bgcolor="#efefef">&nbsp;</td>
+ <td width="15" bgcolor="#efefef">&nbsp;</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td width="15" rowspan="3" bgcolor="#303030">&nbsp;</td>
+ <td colspan="4" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">&nbsp;</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF">&nbsp;</td>
+ <td valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-2" color="#666666">
+ Wird der Button oben nicht korrekt gezeigt? <br />
+ Klick <a href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_"><font color="#bd0710">here</font></a> oder kopiere den Link unten in die Adressleiste deines Browsers.<br />
+ <a style="color: #bd0710" href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_"><font color="#bd0710">http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_</font></a></font>
+ <br /><br /><br />
+ <br /><br />
+ <img src="http://s6.netlogstatic.com/v6.00/257745/s/i/mail/netlog-logo.gif" width="112" height="23" /><br /><br />
+ <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-2" color="#666666">
+ Möchtest du keine Einladungen von deinen Freunden mehr erhalten?
+ <a style="color:#bd0710;" href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9NiZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGbm9tYWlscyUyRmludml0ZSUyRmVtYWlsJTNELWJXRm5aV2xoTFcxaGNtdGxkR2x1WjBCdFlXZGxhV0V1YjNKbiUyNmNvZGUlM0QxNDg0NTgyMQ__">
+ <font color="#bd0710">Klick hier
+ </font></a>.
+ <br />
+ Don't want to receive invitations from your friends anymore?
+ <a style="color:#bd0710;" href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9NyZnbT0xMiZ1PWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZlbi5uZXRsb2cuY29tJTJGZ28lMkZub21haWxzJTJGaW52aXRlJTJGZW1haWwlM0QtYldGblpXbGhMVzFoY210bGRHbHVaMEJ0WVdkbGFXRXViM0puJTI2Y29kZSUzRDE0ODQ1ODIx">
+ <font color="#bd0710">Click here
+ </font></a>.<br />
+
+ <strong>Massive Media NV</strong> - E. Braunplein 18. B-9000 Gent. Belgium. <br />
+ BE0859635972 -
+ <a href="mailto:abuse-de@netlog.com" style="color:#666666;">
+ <font color="#666666">abuse-de@netlog.com</font></a><br />
+ </font>
+ </td>
+ <td colspan="2" rowspan="2" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">&nbsp;</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF">&nbsp;</td>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF">&nbsp;</td>
+ </tr>
+</table>
+<img src="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailimage/type=INVITATION&mailid=1382232764&header.gif" />
+</body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20110912/e8001e19/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20110912/e8001e19/attachment-0001.html
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+Sorry folks, this was an *unwanted* automatic mail from the netlog system.<br><br>-- <br>wobo<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Am 12. September 2011 07:40 schrieb Wolfgang Bornath <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:noreply%2BM192120826@netlogmail.com">noreply+M192120826@netlogmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><u></u>
+
+
+
+
+<div>
+<table style="line-height:18px" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="620">
+ <tbody><tr>
+ <td colspan="4" height="10" bgcolor="#303030"> </td>
+ <td colspan="4" height="10"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td colspan="3" height="10" bgcolor="#303030"> </td>
+ <td colspan="4" height="10" bgcolor="#efefef"> </td>
+ <td colspan="1" height="10"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#303030" width="30"> </td>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#303030" valign="top" width="115">
+ <table bgcolor="#FFFFFF" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="86">
+ <tbody><tr>
+ <td style="text-align:center;padding:3px 0"><img src="" height="60" width="80"></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody></table>
+ <br>
+ <font style="font-size:12px" color="#FFFFFF" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-1">
+ Wolfgang Bornath<br>
+ <font style="font-size:11px" size="-2">
+ männlich - 64 Jahre alt<br>
+ Hessen</font></font><br><br>
+ <br>
+ </td>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#303030" valign="top" width="20"><img src="" height="55" align="top" width="20"></td>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ <td style="font-size:13px" height="90" bgcolor="#efefef"><font color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#bd0710" size="+2">Hi!</font><br>
+ <br>
+ Ich habe ein Netlog-Profil erstellt und möchte dir (<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>) Zugang zu meinen neuesten Bilder und mehr geben.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <table bgcolor="#BD0710" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody><tr>
+ <td colspan="4" height="3"></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td> </td>
+ <td><img src="" height="35" width="35"></td>
+ <td>
+ <a href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_" style="color:#ffffff" target="_blank">
+ <font color="#FFFFFF" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="+1">Verbinde dich mit Wolfgang</font>
+ </a>
+ </td>
+ <td width="10"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td colspan="4" height="3"></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody></table>
+ <br>
+ <font style="font-size:13px" color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-1">
+ Hallo, <br>Wolfgang </font>
+ </font></td>
+ <td bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td colspan="3" rowspan="4" bgcolor="#303030"> </td>
+ <td bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ <td colspan="2" bgcolor="#efefef"> </td>
+ <td bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td rowspan="3" bgcolor="#303030" width="15"> </td>
+ <td colspan="4" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" valign="top">
+ <font color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-2">
+ Wird der Button oben nicht korrekt gezeigt? <br>
+ Klick <a href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_" target="_blank"><font color="#bd0710">here</font></a> oder kopiere den Link unten in die Adressleiste deines Browsers.<br>
+
+ <a style="color:#bd0710" href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_" target="_blank"><font color="#bd0710">http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_</font></a></font>
+ <br><br><br>
+ <br><br>
+ <img src="" height="23" width="112"><br><br>
+ <font color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-2">
+ Möchtest du keine Einladungen von deinen Freunden mehr erhalten?
+ <a style="color:#bd0710" href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9NiZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGbm9tYWlscyUyRmludml0ZSUyRmVtYWlsJTNELWJXRm5aV2xoTFcxaGNtdGxkR2x1WjBCdFlXZGxhV0V1YjNKbiUyNmNvZGUlM0QxNDg0NTgyMQ__" target="_blank">
+ <font color="#bd0710">Klick hier
+ </font></a>.
+ <br>
+ Don&#39;t want to receive invitations from your friends anymore?
+ <a style="color:#bd0710" href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9NyZnbT0xMiZ1PWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZlbi5uZXRsb2cuY29tJTJGZ28lMkZub21haWxzJTJGaW52aXRlJTJGZW1haWwlM0QtYldGblpXbGhMVzFoY210bGRHbHVaMEJ0WVdkbGFXRXViM0puJTI2Y29kZSUzRDE0ODQ1ODIx" target="_blank">
+ <font color="#bd0710">Click here
+ </font></a>.<br>
+
+ <b>Massive Media NV</b> - E. Braunplein 18. B-9000 Gent. Belgium. <br>
+ BE0859635972 -
+ <a href="mailto:abuse-de@netlog.com" style="color:#666666" target="_blank">
+ <font color="#666666">abuse-de@netlog.com</font></a><br>
+ </font>
+ </td>
+ <td colspan="2" rowspan="2" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ </tr>
+</tbody></table>
+<img src="">
+</div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20110912/e8001e19/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20110912/e8001e19/attachment.html
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+Sorry folks, this was an *unwanted* automatic mail from the netlog system.<br><br>-- <br>wobo<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Am 12. September 2011 07:40 schrieb Wolfgang Bornath <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:noreply%2BM192120826@netlogmail.com">noreply+M192120826@netlogmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><u></u>
+
+
+
+
+<div>
+<table style="line-height:18px" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="620">
+ <tbody><tr>
+ <td colspan="4" height="10" bgcolor="#303030"> </td>
+ <td colspan="4" height="10"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td colspan="3" height="10" bgcolor="#303030"> </td>
+ <td colspan="4" height="10" bgcolor="#efefef"> </td>
+ <td colspan="1" height="10"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#303030" width="30"> </td>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#303030" valign="top" width="115">
+ <table bgcolor="#FFFFFF" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="86">
+ <tbody><tr>
+ <td style="text-align:center;padding:3px 0"><img src="" height="60" width="80"></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody></table>
+ <br>
+ <font style="font-size:12px" color="#FFFFFF" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-1">
+ Wolfgang Bornath<br>
+ <font style="font-size:11px" size="-2">
+ männlich - 64 Jahre alt<br>
+ Hessen</font></font><br><br>
+ <br>
+ </td>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#303030" valign="top" width="20"><img src="" height="55" align="top" width="20"></td>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ <td style="font-size:13px" height="90" bgcolor="#efefef"><font color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#bd0710" size="+2">Hi!</font><br>
+ <br>
+ Ich habe ein Netlog-Profil erstellt und möchte dir (<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>) Zugang zu meinen neuesten Bilder und mehr geben.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <table bgcolor="#BD0710" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody><tr>
+ <td colspan="4" height="3"></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td> </td>
+ <td><img src="" height="35" width="35"></td>
+ <td>
+ <a href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_" style="color:#ffffff" target="_blank">
+ <font color="#FFFFFF" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="+1">Verbinde dich mit Wolfgang</font>
+ </a>
+ </td>
+ <td width="10"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td colspan="4" height="3"></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody></table>
+ <br>
+ <font style="font-size:13px" color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-1">
+ Hallo, <br>Wolfgang </font>
+ </font></td>
+ <td bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td colspan="3" rowspan="4" bgcolor="#303030"> </td>
+ <td bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ <td colspan="2" bgcolor="#efefef"> </td>
+ <td bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td rowspan="3" bgcolor="#303030" width="15"> </td>
+ <td colspan="4" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" valign="top">
+ <font color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-2">
+ Wird der Button oben nicht korrekt gezeigt? <br>
+ Klick <a href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_" target="_blank"><font color="#bd0710">here</font></a> oder kopiere den Link unten in die Adressleiste deines Browsers.<br>
+
+ <a style="color:#bd0710" href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_" target="_blank"><font color="#bd0710">http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_</font></a></font>
+ <br><br><br>
+ <br><br>
+ <img src="" height="23" width="112"><br><br>
+ <font color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-2">
+ Möchtest du keine Einladungen von deinen Freunden mehr erhalten?
+ <a style="color:#bd0710" href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9NiZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGbm9tYWlscyUyRmludml0ZSUyRmVtYWlsJTNELWJXRm5aV2xoTFcxaGNtdGxkR2x1WjBCdFlXZGxhV0V1YjNKbiUyNmNvZGUlM0QxNDg0NTgyMQ__" target="_blank">
+ <font color="#bd0710">Klick hier
+ </font></a>.
+ <br>
+ Don&#39;t want to receive invitations from your friends anymore?
+ <a style="color:#bd0710" href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9NyZnbT0xMiZ1PWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZlbi5uZXRsb2cuY29tJTJGZ28lMkZub21haWxzJTJGaW52aXRlJTJGZW1haWwlM0QtYldGblpXbGhMVzFoY210bGRHbHVaMEJ0WVdkbGFXRXViM0puJTI2Y29kZSUzRDE0ODQ1ODIx" target="_blank">
+ <font color="#bd0710">Click here
+ </font></a>.<br>
+
+ <b>Massive Media NV</b> - E. Braunplein 18. B-9000 Gent. Belgium. <br>
+ BE0859635972 -
+ <a href="mailto:abuse-de@netlog.com" style="color:#666666" target="_blank">
+ <font color="#666666">abuse-de@netlog.com</font></a><br>
+ </font>
+ </td>
+ <td colspan="2" rowspan="2" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ </tr>
+</tbody></table>
+<img src="">
+</div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+ <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed;
+ font-size: 12px;" lang="x-western">I would like to join the Mageia
+ marketing team and help get Mageia out there :).
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed;
+ font-size: 12px;" lang="x-western">I would like to join the Mageia
+ marketing team and help get Mageia out there :).
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>
+Hi,<br>
+ <br>
+ I would like to have a mageia banner on my website, it can be
+ written in English. I can translate it in Romanian, i am a member of
+ the translation team.<br>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.famitemele.ro">www.famitemele.ro</a>,
+ some students (I am no longer a student) that try to help education
+ grow (we do have a problem, they want us to solve their homework
+ completely), I can be contacted for this because I started the page,
+ Romanian (and I will translate the framework to English)<br>
+ <br>
+ Someone suggested I should add a 'powered by Mageia' but text is not
+ so eye catching.<br>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
+
+With respect,
+Dan-Marian, Joia.</pre> </div></body>
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+<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>
+Hi,<br>
+ <br>
+ I would like to have a mageia banner on my website, it can be
+ written in English. I can translate it in Romanian, i am a member of
+ the translation team.<br>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.famitemele.ro">www.famitemele.ro</a>,
+ some students (I am no longer a student) that try to help education
+ grow (we do have a problem, they want us to solve their homework
+ completely), I can be contacted for this because I started the page,
+ Romanian (and I will translate the framework to English)<br>
+ <br>
+ Someone suggested I should add a 'powered by Mageia' but text is not
+ so eye catching.<br>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
+
+With respect,
+Dan-Marian, Joia.</pre> </div></body>
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+Hello,<br><br>I&#39;m a Mandrake/Mandriva Linux user since 2004 and now I&#39;m testing Mageia. Being Mageia a community project I want to help. I have some ideas and I also want to collaborate with some art work, specifically in the setup process. I&#39;ll try to join the IRC channel but be aware that I live in Costa Rica and there is a 6 hour difference in the time zone. <br>
+<br>Thanks,<br><br>Esteban<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hello,<br><br>I&#39;m a Mandrake/Mandriva Linux user since 2004 and now I&#39;m testing Mageia. Being Mageia a community project I want to help. I have some ideas and I also want to collaborate with some art work, specifically in the setup process. I&#39;ll try to join the IRC channel but be aware that I live in Costa Rica and there is a 6 hour difference in the time zone. <br>
+<br>Thanks,<br><br>Esteban<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120125/78d5c2bf/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120125/78d5c2bf/attachment-0001.html
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 24/01/12 20:16, Esteban Mora wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CAA0uR1uj=iemU9LB+zjdm_w_28q5=_FqnovOJdrJqfJ5rGjnNA@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">Hello,<br>
+ <br>
+ I'm a Mandrake/Mandriva Linux user since 2004 and now I'm testing
+ Mageia. Being Mageia a community project I want to help. I have
+ some ideas and I also want to collaborate with some art work,
+ specifically in the setup process. I'll try to join the IRC
+ channel but be aware that I live in Costa Rica and there is a 6
+ hour difference in the time zone. <br>
+ <br>
+ Thanks,<br>
+ <br>
+ Esteban<br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ Esteban Mora<br>
+ S&iacute;gueme en Twitter en <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>
+ ----------------------<br>
+ La perfecci&oacute;n no es cosa peque&ntilde;a, pero est&aacute; hecha de peque&ntilde;as
+ cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Hello welcome to Mageia :)!<br>
+ <br>
+ Since you are interested in artwork you should join the Mageia
+ artwork mailing list as well if you are not already on it. I also
+ suggest reading the wiki pages for the marketing and artwork teams
+ if you haven't already done so. Someone else can provide more
+ details about what you can do for the marketing team if you would
+ like.<br>
+ <br>
+ There is going to be a special artwork team meeting, which you are
+ welcome to join, this evening or for you the afternoon this
+ Wednesday the 25th at 7pm UTC/GMT and so 1pm for you I believe. The
+ meeting will happen in #mageia-artwork on the Freenode IRC network.
+ Their will probably be a public log of the meeting when it has
+ finished: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/">http://meetbot.mageia.org/</a><br>
+ <br>
+ The main #mageia channel can be used for distribution support and to
+ find out more about Mageia. However if you would also like to get to
+ know some of the people in the Mageia community on IRC I suggest
+ coming to #mageia-social as well.<br>
+ <br>
+ From<br>
+ Sebastian<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 24/01/12 20:16, Esteban Mora wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CAA0uR1uj=iemU9LB+zjdm_w_28q5=_FqnovOJdrJqfJ5rGjnNA@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">Hello,<br>
+ <br>
+ I'm a Mandrake/Mandriva Linux user since 2004 and now I'm testing
+ Mageia. Being Mageia a community project I want to help. I have
+ some ideas and I also want to collaborate with some art work,
+ specifically in the setup process. I'll try to join the IRC
+ channel but be aware that I live in Costa Rica and there is a 6
+ hour difference in the time zone. <br>
+ <br>
+ Thanks,<br>
+ <br>
+ Esteban<br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ Esteban Mora<br>
+ S&iacute;gueme en Twitter en <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>
+ ----------------------<br>
+ La perfecci&oacute;n no es cosa peque&ntilde;a, pero est&aacute; hecha de peque&ntilde;as
+ cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Hello welcome to Mageia :)!<br>
+ <br>
+ Since you are interested in artwork you should join the Mageia
+ artwork mailing list as well if you are not already on it. I also
+ suggest reading the wiki pages for the marketing and artwork teams
+ if you haven't already done so. Someone else can provide more
+ details about what you can do for the marketing team if you would
+ like.<br>
+ <br>
+ There is going to be a special artwork team meeting, which you are
+ welcome to join, this evening or for you the afternoon this
+ Wednesday the 25th at 7pm UTC/GMT and so 1pm for you I believe. The
+ meeting will happen in #mageia-artwork on the Freenode IRC network.
+ Their will probably be a public log of the meeting when it has
+ finished: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/">http://meetbot.mageia.org/</a><br>
+ <br>
+ The main #mageia channel can be used for distribution support and to
+ find out more about Mageia. However if you would also like to get to
+ know some of the people in the Mageia community on IRC I suggest
+ coming to #mageia-social as well.<br>
+ <br>
+ From<br>
+ Sebastian<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html><head></head><body>Good point. Do we want to.fractionalize our support outlets?<br>
+-- <br>
+Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Oliver Burger &lt;oliver.bgr@googlemail.com&gt; wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap:break-word; font-family: sans-serif">Am 08.02.2012 14:54, schrieb Josh King:<br />&gt; On 08/02/12 03:29, Anne Nicolas wrote:<br />&gt;&gt; Le 08/02/2012 10:27, Patricia Fraser a écrit :<br />&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi guys,<br />&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />&gt;&gt;&gt; This is something we really should do. Is anyone interested in taking<br />&gt;&gt;&gt; this on with me? Seb? JohnR? Anyone?<br />&gt;&gt; to be clear, we are looking for various profiles, technical and non<br />&gt;&gt; technical<br />&gt;&gt;<br />&gt;&gt;<br />&gt; I'd be interested in helping out. I'm am apprentice packager so perhaps<br />&gt; I could lend some assistance.?<br />&gt;<br />Just one thing about it:Of course it help us getting attention, when <br />there is a Mageia sub forums on LQ, but it will divide man power between <br />our forums and those LQ forums.<br /><br />Oliver<br /><hr /><br />Mageia-marketing mailing list<br />Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br /><a
+href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br /><br /></pre></blockquote></div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html><head></head><body>Good point. Do we want to.fractionalize our support outlets?<br>
+-- <br>
+Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Oliver Burger &lt;oliver.bgr@googlemail.com&gt; wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap:break-word; font-family: sans-serif">Am 08.02.2012 14:54, schrieb Josh King:<br />&gt; On 08/02/12 03:29, Anne Nicolas wrote:<br />&gt;&gt; Le 08/02/2012 10:27, Patricia Fraser a écrit :<br />&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi guys,<br />&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />&gt;&gt;&gt; This is something we really should do. Is anyone interested in taking<br />&gt;&gt;&gt; this on with me? Seb? JohnR? Anyone?<br />&gt;&gt; to be clear, we are looking for various profiles, technical and non<br />&gt;&gt; technical<br />&gt;&gt;<br />&gt;&gt;<br />&gt; I'd be interested in helping out. I'm am apprentice packager so perhaps<br />&gt; I could lend some assistance.?<br />&gt;<br />Just one thing about it:Of course it help us getting attention, when <br />there is a Mageia sub forums on LQ, but it will divide man power between <br />our forums and those LQ forums.<br /><br />Oliver<br /><hr /><br />Mageia-marketing mailing list<br />Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br /><a
+href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br /><br /></pre></blockquote></div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 15/02/12 02:04, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120215130419.0000402a@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Now that I'm back in Australia, we should maybe re-visit the time we
+have our IRC get-together each week or fortnight - we're a bit spread
+out over the planet!
+
+For me, a time that's equivalent to UTC 20:00 or 21:00, or a time
+that's equivalent to UTC 09:00 or 10:00 would be fine. Earlier than UTC
+20:00 I can do sometimes but not often.
+
+What times suit everyone else?
+
+We need to get some tasks worked out for Mageia 2 release - nothing too
+heavy, but it would be good to spread the word well for this release!
+
+Cheers,
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Hi<br>
+ <br>
+ For me the evening is good in UK time :).<br>
+ <br>
+ Tuesday 7pm UTC is the Mageia documentation team meeting.<br>
+ <br>
+ Wednesday at about 8pm seems to usually be the packaging meeting, I
+ am not a packager, but I know these meetings can be useful to find
+ out Mageia project information.&nbsp; Sometimes I type in them a bit as
+ well. However if we have our marketing team meeting on the same day
+ and at the same time, well I tend to be in quite a few IRC channels
+ any way when using IRC, so that's not really a problem. <br>
+ <br>
+ Also the day of the marketing team meeting isn't a problem for me,
+ but other people might want a different day.<br>
+ <br>
+ Clocks change as well twice a year, but 8pm UK time should be ok
+ with me, and 9pm even.<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ Which time zone are you in now, and where abouts in Australia did
+ you move to?<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
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+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 15/02/12 02:04, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120215130419.0000402a@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Now that I'm back in Australia, we should maybe re-visit the time we
+have our IRC get-together each week or fortnight - we're a bit spread
+out over the planet!
+
+For me, a time that's equivalent to UTC 20:00 or 21:00, or a time
+that's equivalent to UTC 09:00 or 10:00 would be fine. Earlier than UTC
+20:00 I can do sometimes but not often.
+
+What times suit everyone else?
+
+We need to get some tasks worked out for Mageia 2 release - nothing too
+heavy, but it would be good to spread the word well for this release!
+
+Cheers,
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Hi<br>
+ <br>
+ For me the evening is good in UK time :).<br>
+ <br>
+ Tuesday 7pm UTC is the Mageia documentation team meeting.<br>
+ <br>
+ Wednesday at about 8pm seems to usually be the packaging meeting, I
+ am not a packager, but I know these meetings can be useful to find
+ out Mageia project information.&nbsp; Sometimes I type in them a bit as
+ well. However if we have our marketing team meeting on the same day
+ and at the same time, well I tend to be in quite a few IRC channels
+ any way when using IRC, so that's not really a problem. <br>
+ <br>
+ Also the day of the marketing team meeting isn't a problem for me,
+ but other people might want a different day.<br>
+ <br>
+ Clocks change as well twice a year, but 8pm UK time should be ok
+ with me, and 9pm even.<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ Which time zone are you in now, and where abouts in Australia did
+ you move to?<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ On 15/02/12 11:05, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120215220512.0000541d@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">For me the evening is good in UK time :).
+
+Tuesday 7pm UTC is the Mageia documentation team meeting.
+
+Wednesday at about 8pm seems to usually be the packaging meeting, I
+am not a packager, but I know these meetings can be useful to find
+out Mageia project information. Sometimes I type in them a bit as
+well. However if we have our marketing team meeting on the same day
+and at the same time, well I tend to be in quite a few IRC channels
+any way when using IRC, so that's not really a problem.
+
+Also the day of the marketing team meeting isn't a problem for me,
+but other people might want a different day.
+
+Clocks change as well twice a year, but 8pm UK time should be ok with
+me, and 9pm even.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+All good points. We´ve had marcom meetings on Wednesdays, alternating
+with artwork - but they don´t have to be Wednesdays, sure. Let´s see
+what other people have to say?
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Which time zone are you in now, and where abouts in Australia did you
+move to?
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+I´m in Victoria, and the time zone is UTC + 11 (we´re on summer time),
+dropping to UTC +9 when the northern hemisphere is on summer time.
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Hi<br>
+ <br>
+ Oh yeah they fit in with the artwork team meetings, already knew
+ that, but forgot about that when typing the email.<br>
+ <br>
+ Wednesday will be fine for me, but at the moment any day of the week
+ would be really.<br>
+ <br>
+ Is there going to be a marketing team meeting this evening, 7pm UTC,
+ or 8 or 9pm UTC even?<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ Was wondering if you were in Sydney time and yes you are.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ On 15/02/12 11:05, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120215220512.0000541d@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">For me the evening is good in UK time :).
+
+Tuesday 7pm UTC is the Mageia documentation team meeting.
+
+Wednesday at about 8pm seems to usually be the packaging meeting, I
+am not a packager, but I know these meetings can be useful to find
+out Mageia project information. Sometimes I type in them a bit as
+well. However if we have our marketing team meeting on the same day
+and at the same time, well I tend to be in quite a few IRC channels
+any way when using IRC, so that's not really a problem.
+
+Also the day of the marketing team meeting isn't a problem for me,
+but other people might want a different day.
+
+Clocks change as well twice a year, but 8pm UK time should be ok with
+me, and 9pm even.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+All good points. We´ve had marcom meetings on Wednesdays, alternating
+with artwork - but they don´t have to be Wednesdays, sure. Let´s see
+what other people have to say?
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Which time zone are you in now, and where abouts in Australia did you
+move to?
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+I´m in Victoria, and the time zone is UTC + 11 (we´re on summer time),
+dropping to UTC +9 when the northern hemisphere is on summer time.
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Hi<br>
+ <br>
+ Oh yeah they fit in with the artwork team meetings, already knew
+ that, but forgot about that when typing the email.<br>
+ <br>
+ Wednesday will be fine for me, but at the moment any day of the week
+ would be really.<br>
+ <br>
+ Is there going to be a marketing team meeting this evening, 7pm UTC,
+ or 8 or 9pm UTC even?<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ Was wondering if you were in Sydney time and yes you are.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+Hi,<br><br>It&#39;s me, the guy from Costa Rica. I was thinking the same a couple of weeks ago. I installed the alpha release and noticed that the pictures were the same. I have some ideas and I think I can help with some designs (or at least, prototypes). But I need the grid and the Mageia logo in SVG format. Where can I find them?<br>
+<br>Esteban<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/23 Rmi Verschelde <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:remi@verschelde.fr">remi@verschelde.fr</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi guys,<br>
+<br>
+You may know that Mageia&#39;s installer shows some promotional pictures<br>
+during the installation[1], which are supposed to demonstrate the main<br>
+characteristics and assets of Mageia. For Mageia 1, a contributor took<br>
+the time to design a few pictures to promote some aspects of Mageia,<br>
+and these are still shown in the installer of Mageia 2 beta 1.<br>
+Now, it would be good for Mageia 2&#39;s look that we design some new<br>
+pictures. To do so, it could be great that Marcom and Artwork work<br>
+together to come with a bunch of pretty professional-looking pictures<br>
+which enforce Mageia&#39;s values and trademark.<br>
+<br>
+The fact is, artwork freeze is on March, 10th, i.e. in a bit more than<br>
+two weeks. So we need to decide what we want to do, who will do it and<br>
+using which resources and content.<br>
+So, what are your ideas for these pictures?<br>
+<br>
+I had an initial idea, but you may find better ones. I thought that we<br>
+could do 5 pictures, each dedicated to one of the core values of<br>
+Mageia[2], i.e.:<br>
+- Mageia is social software<br>
+- Mageia is powerful technology<br>
+- Mageia is knowledge<br>
+- Mageia is quality<br>
+- Mageia is open relations<br>
+I have no idea about how these key points could be conveyed through<br>
+artwork, but it could give us hints for the content.<br>
+<br>
+There could be other possibilities, such as promoting the content<br>
+included in the distribution and the repositories: Mageia Control<br>
+Center, LibreOffice, latest version of KDE, powerful IDEs, awesome<br>
+games such as Battle for Wesnoth, etc..<br>
+We could also focus on the community, displaying small overviews of<br>
+the work of some of our teams, etc..<br>
+<br>
+So, what are your ideas?<br>
+<br>
+Regards,<br>
+Rmi / Akien<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+[1] See also bug #4651 on Bugzilla: <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651</a><br>
+You&#39;ll find there a link to Mageia 1&#39;s pictures on the SVN.<br>
+<br>
+[2] <a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/values/" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/values/</a><br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi,<br><br>It&#39;s me, the guy from Costa Rica. I was thinking the same a couple of weeks ago. I installed the alpha release and noticed that the pictures were the same. I have some ideas and I think I can help with some designs (or at least, prototypes). But I need the grid and the Mageia logo in SVG format. Where can I find them?<br>
+<br>Esteban<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/23 Rmi Verschelde <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:remi@verschelde.fr">remi@verschelde.fr</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi guys,<br>
+<br>
+You may know that Mageia&#39;s installer shows some promotional pictures<br>
+during the installation[1], which are supposed to demonstrate the main<br>
+characteristics and assets of Mageia. For Mageia 1, a contributor took<br>
+the time to design a few pictures to promote some aspects of Mageia,<br>
+and these are still shown in the installer of Mageia 2 beta 1.<br>
+Now, it would be good for Mageia 2&#39;s look that we design some new<br>
+pictures. To do so, it could be great that Marcom and Artwork work<br>
+together to come with a bunch of pretty professional-looking pictures<br>
+which enforce Mageia&#39;s values and trademark.<br>
+<br>
+The fact is, artwork freeze is on March, 10th, i.e. in a bit more than<br>
+two weeks. So we need to decide what we want to do, who will do it and<br>
+using which resources and content.<br>
+So, what are your ideas for these pictures?<br>
+<br>
+I had an initial idea, but you may find better ones. I thought that we<br>
+could do 5 pictures, each dedicated to one of the core values of<br>
+Mageia[2], i.e.:<br>
+- Mageia is social software<br>
+- Mageia is powerful technology<br>
+- Mageia is knowledge<br>
+- Mageia is quality<br>
+- Mageia is open relations<br>
+I have no idea about how these key points could be conveyed through<br>
+artwork, but it could give us hints for the content.<br>
+<br>
+There could be other possibilities, such as promoting the content<br>
+included in the distribution and the repositories: Mageia Control<br>
+Center, LibreOffice, latest version of KDE, powerful IDEs, awesome<br>
+games such as Battle for Wesnoth, etc..<br>
+We could also focus on the community, displaying small overviews of<br>
+the work of some of our teams, etc..<br>
+<br>
+So, what are your ideas?<br>
+<br>
+Regards,<br>
+Rmi / Akien<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+[1] See also bug #4651 on Bugzilla: <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651</a><br>
+You&#39;ll find there a link to Mageia 1&#39;s pictures on the SVN.<br>
+<br>
+[2] <a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/values/" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/values/</a><br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+<div dir="ltr">Hello everybody.<br>I&#39;m sending this to both lists so that we can coordinate this together. I apologize to everybody and anybody that will get this twice.<br>When replying, please be sure to hit Reply To All.<br>
+<br>I hope that everybody is familiar with the bug: <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651</a><br><br>As you may or may not be aware, the artwork freeze is coming up, in fact it&#39;s next Saturday. That means that we need to get this done <b>this week</b>. I know that you all have other important things to do, but if we all pitch in a little bit none of us will have to sacrifice a lot of time.<br>
+<br>I was sort of hoping that the Marcom team could come up with some new text and that the Artwork team could come up with some new artwork. Then we&#39;ll hammer out the details at Wednesday&#39;s Marcom meeting, and then finish it up. A final polish and send it off to the packagers no later than the middle of next week.<br>
+<br>I really think that we can do this in the time, but we all need to help out. So please, let&#39;s get to work on this.<br><br>There has already been a proposal to use the five Mageia Values. I think that that&#39;s a good idea, although 5 images may be a bit too much, considering the time constraints.<br>
+On the other hand, if the Artwork team can come up with a single image that has a few slight variations that might work too.<br><br>Your thoughts?<br><br>Max<br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Hello everybody.<br>I&#39;m sending this to both lists so that we can coordinate this together. I apologize to everybody and anybody that will get this twice.<br>When replying, please be sure to hit Reply To All.<br>
+<br>I hope that everybody is familiar with the bug: <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651</a><br><br>As you may or may not be aware, the artwork freeze is coming up, in fact it&#39;s next Saturday. That means that we need to get this done <b>this week</b>. I know that you all have other important things to do, but if we all pitch in a little bit none of us will have to sacrifice a lot of time.<br>
+<br>I was sort of hoping that the Marcom team could come up with some new text and that the Artwork team could come up with some new artwork. Then we&#39;ll hammer out the details at Wednesday&#39;s Marcom meeting, and then finish it up. A final polish and send it off to the packagers no later than the middle of next week.<br>
+<br>I really think that we can do this in the time, but we all need to help out. So please, let&#39;s get to work on this.<br><br>There has already been a proposal to use the five Mageia Values. I think that that&#39;s a good idea, although 5 images may be a bit too much, considering the time constraints.<br>
+On the other hand, if the Artwork team can come up with a single image that has a few slight variations that might work too.<br><br>Your thoughts?<br><br>Max<br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Glad to see that you and your cat and your belongings have safely made it halfway across the globe. :D<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Patricia Fraser <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+Sorry I haven&#39;t been around and available for the last little while -<br>
+I&#39;m in the process of moving still, so this week I&#39;ll still be<br>
+unavailable for meetings. However, I&#39;m in my house, cat and all, from<br>
+Sunday, so next week I&#39;ll be back on deck!<br>
+<br>
+If I can grab a connected half-hour before the end of the week to look<br>
+at the texts for the install screens, I will, but I can&#39;t promise. So<br>
+if anyone else has suggestions for the texts, please do make them!<br>
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Tue Feb 28 07:24:47 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+hermes up 0 hour(s), 26 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+</font></span><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-artwork mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Glad to see that you and your cat and your belongings have safely made it halfway across the globe. :D<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Patricia Fraser <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+Sorry I haven&#39;t been around and available for the last little while -<br>
+I&#39;m in the process of moving still, so this week I&#39;ll still be<br>
+unavailable for meetings. However, I&#39;m in my house, cat and all, from<br>
+Sunday, so next week I&#39;ll be back on deck!<br>
+<br>
+If I can grab a connected half-hour before the end of the week to look<br>
+at the texts for the install screens, I will, but I can&#39;t promise. So<br>
+if anyone else has suggestions for the texts, please do make them!<br>
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Tue Feb 28 07:24:47 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+hermes up 0 hour(s), 26 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+</font></span><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-artwork mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+Hi,<br><br>It&#39;s me (the guy from Costa Rica). I uploaded a demo of the splash screen that I made today. It is just a demo. You can download it from here:<br><br>Before (one of Mageia&#39;s 2 alpha screens): <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</a><br>
+After (just the background on gray color): <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br><br>Please, let me know what you think (I think it needs more color). I need to place some icons showing what the people can do with Mageia (desktop, desing, play, develop, etc). And I want to try other colors. I have a lot of work on these days, but I&#39;ll try to help.<br clear="all">
+<br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi,<br><br>It&#39;s me (the guy from Costa Rica). I uploaded a demo of the splash screen that I made today. It is just a demo. You can download it from here:<br><br>Before (one of Mageia&#39;s 2 alpha screens): <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</a><br>
+After (just the background on gray color): <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br><br>Please, let me know what you think (I think it needs more color). I need to place some icons showing what the people can do with Mageia (desktop, desing, play, develop, etc). And I want to try other colors. I have a lot of work on these days, but I&#39;ll try to help.<br clear="all">
+<br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 29/02/12 15:55, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=KyiC-OL4jL8w6CZ+vxYHmKP+trH6aAbpZOhOYFjgY86X6A@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">I am not qualified to send such announcements to
+ the marcom list.<br>
+ And Trish told me that she would try to be there, and most
+ likely would.<br>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ I think that you are allowed to send announcements that are relevant
+ to both teams, to both mailing lists.<br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=KyiC-OL4jL8w6CZ+vxYHmKP+trH6aAbpZOhOYFjgY86X6A@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:12 PM,
+ Sebastian sebsebseb <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span>
+ wrote:<br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
+ padding-left: 1ex;">
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Looks like the email
+ should have sent to the marketing team mailing list as
+ well.<br>
+ <br>
+ I assume the time of the meeting will be at 7pm GMT/UTC.<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ I hope Trish will be at the meeting :).<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Original Message --------
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Subject:
+ </th>
+ <td>[Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting
+ tonight</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Date:
+ </th>
+ <td>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:08:12 +0200</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">From:
+ </th>
+ <td>Max Quarterpleen <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com"
+ target="_blank">&lt;bogusman222@gmail.com&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Reply-To:
+
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org"
+ target="_blank">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">To:
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org"
+ target="_blank">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <div>
+ <div class="h5"> <br>
+ <br>
+ <div dir="ltr">Hi everybody.<br>
+ Tonight there will be a meeting in #mageia-marcom to
+ discuss the resolution of bug 4651 (installer
+ images).<br>
+ Please make an effort to be there, because this is
+ something that we really need to work on.<br>
+ Have a good day!<br>
+ Max<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ _______________________________________________<br>
+ Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 29/02/12 15:55, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=KyiC-OL4jL8w6CZ+vxYHmKP+trH6aAbpZOhOYFjgY86X6A@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">I am not qualified to send such announcements to
+ the marcom list.<br>
+ And Trish told me that she would try to be there, and most
+ likely would.<br>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ I think that you are allowed to send announcements that are relevant
+ to both teams, to both mailing lists.<br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=KyiC-OL4jL8w6CZ+vxYHmKP+trH6aAbpZOhOYFjgY86X6A@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:12 PM,
+ Sebastian sebsebseb <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span>
+ wrote:<br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
+ padding-left: 1ex;">
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Looks like the email
+ should have sent to the marketing team mailing list as
+ well.<br>
+ <br>
+ I assume the time of the meeting will be at 7pm GMT/UTC.<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ I hope Trish will be at the meeting :).<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Original Message --------
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Subject:
+ </th>
+ <td>[Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting
+ tonight</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Date:
+ </th>
+ <td>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:08:12 +0200</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">From:
+ </th>
+ <td>Max Quarterpleen <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com"
+ target="_blank">&lt;bogusman222@gmail.com&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Reply-To:
+
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org"
+ target="_blank">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">To:
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org"
+ target="_blank">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <div>
+ <div class="h5"> <br>
+ <br>
+ <div dir="ltr">Hi everybody.<br>
+ Tonight there will be a meeting in #mageia-marcom to
+ discuss the resolution of bug 4651 (installer
+ images).<br>
+ Please make an effort to be there, because this is
+ something that we really need to work on.<br>
+ Have a good day!<br>
+ Max<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ _______________________________________________<br>
+ Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/205905c7/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/205905c7/attachment-0001.html
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@@ -0,0 +1,57 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Looks like the email should have sent to the marketing team mailing
+ list as well.<br>
+ <br>
+ I assume the time of the meeting will be at 7pm GMT/UTC.<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ I hope Trish will be at the meeting :).<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Original Message --------
+ <table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0"
+ cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Subject: </th>
+ <td>[Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
+ <td>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:08:12 +0200</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
+ <td>Max Quarterpleen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">&lt;bogusman222@gmail.com&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Reply-To:
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">To: </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <div dir="ltr">Hi everybody.<br>
+ Tonight there will be a meeting in #mageia-marcom to discuss the
+ resolution of bug 4651 (installer images).<br>
+ Please make an effort to be there, because this is something that
+ we really need to work on.<br>
+ Have a good day!<br>
+ Max<br>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/205905c7/attachment-0001.ksh b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/205905c7/attachment-0001.ksh
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--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/205905c7/attachment-0001.ksh
@@ -0,0 +1,5 @@
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-artwork mailing list
+Mageia-artwork@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork
+
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--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/205905c7/attachment.html
@@ -0,0 +1,57 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Looks like the email should have sent to the marketing team mailing
+ list as well.<br>
+ <br>
+ I assume the time of the meeting will be at 7pm GMT/UTC.<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ I hope Trish will be at the meeting :).<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Original Message --------
+ <table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0"
+ cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Subject: </th>
+ <td>[Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
+ <td>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:08:12 +0200</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
+ <td>Max Quarterpleen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">&lt;bogusman222@gmail.com&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Reply-To:
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">To: </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <div dir="ltr">Hi everybody.<br>
+ Tonight there will be a meeting in #mageia-marcom to discuss the
+ resolution of bug 4651 (installer images).<br>
+ Please make an effort to be there, because this is something that
+ we really need to work on.<br>
+ Have a good day!<br>
+ Max<br>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/205905c7/attachment.ksh b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/205905c7/attachment.ksh
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--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/205905c7/attachment.ksh
@@ -0,0 +1,5 @@
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-artwork mailing list
+Mageia-artwork@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork
+
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/3671855e/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/3671855e/attachment-0001.html
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--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/3671855e/attachment-0001.html
@@ -0,0 +1,52 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 29/02/12 17:20, Esteban Mora wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CAA0uR1sH1=vyibRznEimHDkCHjuggYpD6Na47_uShcDiPrxrKw@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">Hi,<br>
+ <br>
+ It's me (the guy from Costa Rica). I uploaded a demo of the splash
+ screen that I made today. It is just a demo. You can download it
+ from here:<br>
+ <br>
+ Before (one of Mageia's 2 alpha screens): <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</a><br>
+ After (just the background on gray color): <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Please, let me know what you think (I think it needs more color).
+ I need to place some icons showing what the people can do with
+ Mageia (desktop, desing, play, develop, etc). And I want to try
+ other colors. I have a lot of work on these days, but I'll try to
+ help.<br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ Esteban Mora<br>
+ S&iacute;gueme en Twitter en <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>
+ ----------------------<br>
+ La perfecci&oacute;n no es cosa peque&ntilde;a, pero est&aacute; hecha de peque&ntilde;as
+ cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Looks ok to me :). I thought the artwork team needed to know about
+ your artwork as well, and so the artwork team mailing list in the to
+ as well. <br>
+ <br>
+ I would suggest joining the artwork team mailing list if you haven't
+ already and sending emails about artwork to it.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/3671855e/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/3671855e/attachment.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..43efca804
--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/3671855e/attachment.html
@@ -0,0 +1,52 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 29/02/12 17:20, Esteban Mora wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CAA0uR1sH1=vyibRznEimHDkCHjuggYpD6Na47_uShcDiPrxrKw@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">Hi,<br>
+ <br>
+ It's me (the guy from Costa Rica). I uploaded a demo of the splash
+ screen that I made today. It is just a demo. You can download it
+ from here:<br>
+ <br>
+ Before (one of Mageia's 2 alpha screens): <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</a><br>
+ After (just the background on gray color): <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Please, let me know what you think (I think it needs more color).
+ I need to place some icons showing what the people can do with
+ Mageia (desktop, desing, play, develop, etc). And I want to try
+ other colors. I have a lot of work on these days, but I'll try to
+ help.<br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ Esteban Mora<br>
+ S&iacute;gueme en Twitter en <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>
+ ----------------------<br>
+ La perfecci&oacute;n no es cosa peque&ntilde;a, pero est&aacute; hecha de peque&ntilde;as
+ cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Looks ok to me :). I thought the artwork team needed to know about
+ your artwork as well, and so the artwork team mailing list in the to
+ as well. <br>
+ <br>
+ I would suggest joining the artwork team mailing list if you haven't
+ already and sending emails about artwork to it.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+Hi,<br><br>Just contacted the artwork team and submit another demo. You can look at it here:<br><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br><br>The text is just an example.<br>
+<br>Esteban<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/29 Sebastian sebsebseb <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<u></u>
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><div><div class="h5">
+ On 29/02/12 17:20, Esteban Mora wrote:
+ </div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">Hi,<br>
+ <br>
+ It&#39;s me (the guy from Costa Rica). I uploaded a demo of the splash
+ screen that I made today. It is just a demo. You can download it
+ from here:<br>
+ <br>
+ Before (one of Mageia&#39;s 2 alpha screens): <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png" target="_blank">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</a><br>
+ After (just the background on gray color): <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png" target="_blank">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Please, let me know what you think (I think it needs more color).
+ I need to place some icons showing what the people can do with
+ Mageia (desktop, desing, play, develop, etc). And I want to try
+ other colors. I have a lot of work on these days, but I&#39;ll try to
+ help.<br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ Esteban Mora<br>
+ Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972" target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>
+ ----------------------<br>
+ La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas
+ cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+ </div></div><pre><fieldset></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Looks ok to me :). I thought the artwork team needed to know about
+ your artwork as well, and so the artwork team mailing list in the to
+ as well. <br>
+ <br>
+ I would suggest joining the artwork team mailing list if you haven&#39;t
+ already and sending emails about artwork to it.<br>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi,<br><br>Just contacted the artwork team and submit another demo. You can look at it here:<br><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br><br>The text is just an example.<br>
+<br>Esteban<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/29 Sebastian sebsebseb <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<u></u>
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><div><div class="h5">
+ On 29/02/12 17:20, Esteban Mora wrote:
+ </div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">Hi,<br>
+ <br>
+ It&#39;s me (the guy from Costa Rica). I uploaded a demo of the splash
+ screen that I made today. It is just a demo. You can download it
+ from here:<br>
+ <br>
+ Before (one of Mageia&#39;s 2 alpha screens): <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png" target="_blank">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</a><br>
+ After (just the background on gray color): <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png" target="_blank">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Please, let me know what you think (I think it needs more color).
+ I need to place some icons showing what the people can do with
+ Mageia (desktop, desing, play, develop, etc). And I want to try
+ other colors. I have a lot of work on these days, but I&#39;ll try to
+ help.<br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ Esteban Mora<br>
+ Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972" target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>
+ ----------------------<br>
+ La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas
+ cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+ </div></div><pre><fieldset></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Looks ok to me :). I thought the artwork team needed to know about
+ your artwork as well, and so the artwork team mailing list in the to
+ as well. <br>
+ <br>
+ I would suggest joining the artwork team mailing list if you haven&#39;t
+ already and sending emails about artwork to it.<br>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+<div dir="ltr">I am not qualified to send such announcements to the marcom list.<br>And Trish told me that she would try to be there, and most likely would.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
+
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Looks like the email should have sent to the marketing team mailing
+ list as well.<br>
+ <br>
+ I assume the time of the meeting will be at 7pm GMT/UTC.<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ I hope Trish will be at the meeting :).<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Original Message --------
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Subject: </th>
+ <td>[Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
+ <td>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:08:12 +0200</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
+ <td>Max Quarterpleen <a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">&lt;bogusman222@gmail.com&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Reply-To:
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org" target="_blank">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">To: </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org" target="_blank">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table><div><div class="h5">
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <div dir="ltr">Hi everybody.<br>
+ Tonight there will be a meeting in #mageia-marcom to discuss the
+ resolution of bug 4651 (installer images).<br>
+ Please make an effort to be there, because this is something that
+ we really need to work on.<br>
+ Have a good day!<br>
+ Max<br>
+ </div>
+ </div></div></div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">I am not qualified to send such announcements to the marcom list.<br>And Trish told me that she would try to be there, and most likely would.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
+
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Looks like the email should have sent to the marketing team mailing
+ list as well.<br>
+ <br>
+ I assume the time of the meeting will be at 7pm GMT/UTC.<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ I hope Trish will be at the meeting :).<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Original Message --------
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Subject: </th>
+ <td>[Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
+ <td>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:08:12 +0200</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
+ <td>Max Quarterpleen <a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">&lt;bogusman222@gmail.com&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Reply-To:
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org" target="_blank">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">To: </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org" target="_blank">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table><div><div class="h5">
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <div dir="ltr">Hi everybody.<br>
+ Tonight there will be a meeting in #mageia-marcom to discuss the
+ resolution of bug 4651 (installer images).<br>
+ Please make an effort to be there, because this is something that
+ we really need to work on.<br>
+ Have a good day!<br>
+ Max<br>
+ </div>
+ </div></div></div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 02/03/12 01:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120302121530.1c31bc13@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+I'll take a look at this on the weekend and come back if I have
+questions</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Ok :).<br>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120302121530.1c31bc13@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap=""> - thanks for the hard work!
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">As you know you asked me on IRC for more information about the IRC
+cloaks.
+
+Mageia needs to be registered first on Freenode as a group. Whoever
+set up the original Mageia channels such as #mageia and #mageia-dev
+has hopefully probably already done this over a year ago.
+
+Then once Mageia is officially registered with Freenode, a group
+contact can do certain things such as asking the Freenode staff to
+give contributors IRC cloaks.
+
+I already knew about this, but my other email didn't explain how to
+do it.
+
+Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested, and
+here are links:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml">http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml">http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/gms.shtml">http://freenode.net/gms.shtml</a>
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 02/03/12 01:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120302121530.1c31bc13@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+I'll take a look at this on the weekend and come back if I have
+questions</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Ok :).<br>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120302121530.1c31bc13@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap=""> - thanks for the hard work!
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">As you know you asked me on IRC for more information about the IRC
+cloaks.
+
+Mageia needs to be registered first on Freenode as a group. Whoever
+set up the original Mageia channels such as #mageia and #mageia-dev
+has hopefully probably already done this over a year ago.
+
+Then once Mageia is officially registered with Freenode, a group
+contact can do certain things such as asking the Freenode staff to
+give contributors IRC cloaks.
+
+I already knew about this, but my other email didn't explain how to
+do it.
+
+Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested, and
+here are links:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml">http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml">http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/gms.shtml">http://freenode.net/gms.shtml</a>
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
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+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 05/03/12 22:45, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306094503.29e86da4@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Josh!
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">I'd be happy to assist as deputy team leader. I'd love to be more
+active in marketing, and this may be a good opportunity for me. I do
+have some experience with marketing and community relationship
+building.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Brilliant - thanks for stepping up!
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Is there anything else required to volunteer to be on the ballot?
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Not that I know of! Just being willing is more than enough - we're all
+working it out as we go along.
+
+So, candidates at the moment are:
+
+Me
+Josh
+
+- anyone else want to pitch in?
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Hi<br>
+ <br>
+ I was wondering when Trish would email about that since i18n has
+ been sorting out theirs.<br>
+ <br>
+ According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+ leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two
+ people can have the same position as well:
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</a><br>
+ <br>
+ What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader
+ exactly? I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in
+ the council meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down
+ for a vote on being a representative, however I would like to do
+ this with someone else as well such as Trish.<br>
+ <br>
+ This is what I would like I think:<br>
+ <br>
+ Leader: Trish<br>
+ Deputy Leader: Josh<br>
+ Council representatives: Trish and myself<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 05/03/12 22:45, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306094503.29e86da4@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Josh!
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">I'd be happy to assist as deputy team leader. I'd love to be more
+active in marketing, and this may be a good opportunity for me. I do
+have some experience with marketing and community relationship
+building.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Brilliant - thanks for stepping up!
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Is there anything else required to volunteer to be on the ballot?
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Not that I know of! Just being willing is more than enough - we're all
+working it out as we go along.
+
+So, candidates at the moment are:
+
+Me
+Josh
+
+- anyone else want to pitch in?
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Hi<br>
+ <br>
+ I was wondering when Trish would email about that since i18n has
+ been sorting out theirs.<br>
+ <br>
+ According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+ leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two
+ people can have the same position as well:
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</a><br>
+ <br>
+ What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader
+ exactly? I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in
+ the council meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down
+ for a vote on being a representative, however I would like to do
+ this with someone else as well such as Trish.<br>
+ <br>
+ This is what I would like I think:<br>
+ <br>
+ Leader: Trish<br>
+ Deputy Leader: Josh<br>
+ Council representatives: Trish and myself<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
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+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 06/03/12 08:38, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306193831.6f011bfb@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+I'm afraid we ran out of time for this at the meeting, but don't
+despair!
+
+I do now know who the people are to approach; please could you leave it
+with me, and I'll follow up. Everyone's pretty busy with the
+pre-release things, so I don't want to be annoying - we'll get there,
+but we might need to be a bit patient.
+
+I think it might be best to leave it off the discuss list for now, for
+that reason - what do you think?
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Misc gave me a good reply on that mailing list explaining things,
+ however this is still something that I think should get properly
+ sorted out in the future sometime this year ideally before Mageia 2!<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 06/03/12 08:38, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306193831.6f011bfb@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+I'm afraid we ran out of time for this at the meeting, but don't
+despair!
+
+I do now know who the people are to approach; please could you leave it
+with me, and I'll follow up. Everyone's pretty busy with the
+pre-release things, so I don't want to be annoying - we'll get there,
+but we might need to be a bit patient.
+
+I think it might be best to leave it off the discuss list for now, for
+that reason - what do you think?
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Misc gave me a good reply on that mailing list explaining things,
+ however this is still something that I think should get properly
+ sorted out in the future sometime this year ideally before Mageia 2!<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Hi Trish<br>
+ <br>
+ Good this is being done now. I thought about contacting you about
+ it, because the translations team (i18n) was doing it.<br>
+ <br>
+ Agreed it was not clear in the meeting about how many people could
+ be team council representatives.<br>
+ <br>
+ Sounds good to me giving it 24-48 hours or so for the time zones,
+ and then voting :).<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ <br>
+ On 05/03/12 23:41, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306104133.563e11be@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi!
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two
+people can have the same position as well:
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</a>
+
+What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader
+exactly? I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in
+the council meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down
+for a vote on being a representative, however I would like to do this
+with someone else as well such as Trish.
+
+This is what I would like I think:
+
+Leader: Trish
+Deputy Leader: Josh
+Council representatives: Trish and myself
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+I'm not sure whether we get 2 slots on council - I'll ask. Someone
+mentioned it at the meeting today, but I didn't think the answer was
+very clear.
+
+So, let's see if anyone else puts their hand up - give it 24-48 hours
+for the time zones to go round, and then we'll vote, okay?
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Hi Trish<br>
+ <br>
+ Good this is being done now. I thought about contacting you about
+ it, because the translations team (i18n) was doing it.<br>
+ <br>
+ Agreed it was not clear in the meeting about how many people could
+ be team council representatives.<br>
+ <br>
+ Sounds good to me giving it 24-48 hours or so for the time zones,
+ and then voting :).<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ <br>
+ On 05/03/12 23:41, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306104133.563e11be@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi!
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two
+people can have the same position as well:
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</a>
+
+What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader
+exactly? I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in
+the council meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down
+for a vote on being a representative, however I would like to do this
+with someone else as well such as Trish.
+
+This is what I would like I think:
+
+Leader: Trish
+Deputy Leader: Josh
+Council representatives: Trish and myself
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+I'm not sure whether we get 2 slots on council - I'll ask. Someone
+mentioned it at the meeting today, but I didn't think the answer was
+very clear.
+
+So, let's see if anyone else puts their hand up - give it 24-48 hours
+for the time zones to go round, and then we'll vote, okay?
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Sending this again, because there was a problem trying to send
+ before:<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Original Message --------
+ <table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0"
+ cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Subject: </th>
+ <td>Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
+ <td>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:23:53 +0000</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
+ <td>Sebastian sebsebseb <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">&lt;sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">To: </th>
+ <td>Mageia marketing team discussion list
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">&lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ On 06/03/12 08:38, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306193831.6f011bfb@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">I'm afraid we ran out of time for this at the meeting, but don't
+despair!
+
+I do now know who the people are to approach; please could you leave it
+with me, and I'll follow up. Everyone's pretty busy with the
+pre-release things, so I don't want to be annoying - we'll get there,
+but we might need to be a bit patient.
+
+I think it might be best to leave it off the discuss list for now, for
+that reason - what do you think?
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap=""><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Misc gave me a good reply on that mailing list explaining things,
+ however this is still something that I think should get properly
+ sorted out in the future sometime this year ideally before Mageia 2!<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Sending this again, because there was a problem trying to send
+ before:<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Original Message --------
+ <table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0"
+ cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Subject: </th>
+ <td>Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
+ <td>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:23:53 +0000</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
+ <td>Sebastian sebsebseb <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">&lt;sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">To: </th>
+ <td>Mageia marketing team discussion list
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">&lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ On 06/03/12 08:38, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306193831.6f011bfb@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">I'm afraid we ran out of time for this at the meeting, but don't
+despair!
+
+I do now know who the people are to approach; please could you leave it
+with me, and I'll follow up. Everyone's pretty busy with the
+pre-release things, so I don't want to be annoying - we'll get there,
+but we might need to be a bit patient.
+
+I think it might be best to leave it off the discuss list for now, for
+that reason - what do you think?
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap=""><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Misc gave me a good reply on that mailing list explaining things,
+ however this is still something that I think should get properly
+ sorted out in the future sometime this year ideally before Mageia 2!<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 06/03/12 10:02, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306210240.589fd462@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Wobo helped out with this link:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org</a>
+
+So, we have one rep on the council, and we decide who that will be -
+normally it's the team lead, but it can be anyone. That's one vote on
+council for each team. Anyone can attend a council meeting - we just
+get one vote, and our nominated representative does the voting.
+
+The idea of lead/deputy is that we have coverage even if the lead
+person has to dip out temporarily - so I think it's good if we can have
+2 people, because in the last 3 months I've been noticeably absent due
+to moving country. Hopefully that's going to improve from now on, but
+it's still good to have 2 people covering things.
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Oh ok one person for each position unless wobo is wrong. <br>
+ <br>
+ I agree it's good to have a leader and a deputy leader to help each
+ other, but having two council representatives could be quite good to
+ have at times as well really.&nbsp; <br>
+ <br>
+ In fact I was thinking about it earlier how at least in my
+ experience group things tend to have or may have two people for non
+ leading positions.<br>
+ <br>
+ Also at times a council representative can't easily attend a council
+ meeting, because of for example the time they are at in their time
+ zone, or can't attend it at all, because of being busy with
+ something else. In these kind of situations having two council
+ representatives for a team could be very useful. Even if the other
+ representative is just a substitute for when the main representative
+ is not at the meeting. Or even if the main representative does most
+ of the representing in a council meeting with the other as well. <br>
+ <br>
+ As for the council mailing list I assume both representatives should
+ be sending emails to it if their are two.<br>
+ <br>
+ Anyway it seems we will be voting for only one council
+ representative and so in that case my vote is for Trish or myself.<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 06/03/12 10:02, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306210240.589fd462@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Wobo helped out with this link:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org</a>
+
+So, we have one rep on the council, and we decide who that will be -
+normally it's the team lead, but it can be anyone. That's one vote on
+council for each team. Anyone can attend a council meeting - we just
+get one vote, and our nominated representative does the voting.
+
+The idea of lead/deputy is that we have coverage even if the lead
+person has to dip out temporarily - so I think it's good if we can have
+2 people, because in the last 3 months I've been noticeably absent due
+to moving country. Hopefully that's going to improve from now on, but
+it's still good to have 2 people covering things.
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Oh ok one person for each position unless wobo is wrong. <br>
+ <br>
+ I agree it's good to have a leader and a deputy leader to help each
+ other, but having two council representatives could be quite good to
+ have at times as well really.&nbsp; <br>
+ <br>
+ In fact I was thinking about it earlier how at least in my
+ experience group things tend to have or may have two people for non
+ leading positions.<br>
+ <br>
+ Also at times a council representative can't easily attend a council
+ meeting, because of for example the time they are at in their time
+ zone, or can't attend it at all, because of being busy with
+ something else. In these kind of situations having two council
+ representatives for a team could be very useful. Even if the other
+ representative is just a substitute for when the main representative
+ is not at the meeting. Or even if the main representative does most
+ of the representing in a council meeting with the other as well. <br>
+ <br>
+ As for the council mailing list I assume both representatives should
+ be sending emails to it if their are two.<br>
+ <br>
+ Anyway it seems we will be voting for only one council
+ representative and so in that case my vote is for Trish or myself.<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ On 06/03/12 19:49, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120307064915.1f375ca9@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Oh ok one person for each position unless wobo is wrong.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+You checked the link, yes? I think he's right. And given that marcom is
+still a very small team, I think we can get away with just 2 - team
+lead and deputy.
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">I agree it's good to have a leader and a deputy leader to help each
+other, but having two council representatives could be quite good to
+have at times as well really.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Maybe when we're bigger, but once all teams have reps on council, it
+will still be quite a large council. The idea is, as I see it, that if
+the team lead isn't available, the deputy attends in their place - for
+instance, if TeaAge isn't going to be available as artwork team lead,
+he pings Max and Max attends as artwork rep (which is what's happening
+now because TeaAge is busy).
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">In fact I was thinking about it earlier how at least in my experience
+group things tend to have or may have two people for non leading
+positions.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Maybe if marcom gets to be a big team 8-)...
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">As for the council mailing list I assume both representatives should
+be sending emails to it if their are two.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Just one - team lead if they're available, deputy if they aren't. That
+keeps it manageable.
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Anyway it seems we will be voting for only one council representative
+and so in that case my vote is for Trish or myself.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+You can't vote for yourself! If you're the only candidate, you would be
+elected unopposed, but otherwise, you have to vote for someone else or
+you have to abstain.
+
+There's plenty of work to do, so we're all needed - whether we get an
+official role or not, everyone who contributes is important.
+
+And sometimes our ideas get up and sometimes they don't (or not yet) -
+this is a community, so there's always got to be a bit of give and
+take.
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ That was a very good reply I think.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ On 06/03/12 19:49, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120307064915.1f375ca9@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Oh ok one person for each position unless wobo is wrong.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+You checked the link, yes? I think he's right. And given that marcom is
+still a very small team, I think we can get away with just 2 - team
+lead and deputy.
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">I agree it's good to have a leader and a deputy leader to help each
+other, but having two council representatives could be quite good to
+have at times as well really.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Maybe when we're bigger, but once all teams have reps on council, it
+will still be quite a large council. The idea is, as I see it, that if
+the team lead isn't available, the deputy attends in their place - for
+instance, if TeaAge isn't going to be available as artwork team lead,
+he pings Max and Max attends as artwork rep (which is what's happening
+now because TeaAge is busy).
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">In fact I was thinking about it earlier how at least in my experience
+group things tend to have or may have two people for non leading
+positions.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Maybe if marcom gets to be a big team 8-)...
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">As for the council mailing list I assume both representatives should
+be sending emails to it if their are two.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Just one - team lead if they're available, deputy if they aren't. That
+keeps it manageable.
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Anyway it seems we will be voting for only one council representative
+and so in that case my vote is for Trish or myself.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+You can't vote for yourself! If you're the only candidate, you would be
+elected unopposed, but otherwise, you have to vote for someone else or
+you have to abstain.
+
+There's plenty of work to do, so we're all needed - whether we get an
+official role or not, everyone who contributes is important.
+
+And sometimes our ideas get up and sometimes they don't (or not yet) -
+this is a community, so there's always got to be a bit of give and
+take.
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ That was a very good reply I think.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+Hi guys,<br><br>It&#39;s me, the guy from Costa Rica again. Didn&#39;t work today and I finally made five splash screens for Mageia 2 (texts included). Hope you like them. I&#39;ll love to see some of my work on Mageia 2. I&#39;m mailing them to the artwork team too. Let me know what you think.<br>
+<br>Mageia 1 splash screen: <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</a><br>Mageia 2 splash screen proposal: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br>
+<br>Splash screen #1: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</a><br>Splash screen #2: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</a><br>
+Splash screen #3: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</a><br>Splash screen #4: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</a><br>Splash screen #5: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</a><br>
+<br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi guys,<br><br>It&#39;s me, the guy from Costa Rica again. Didn&#39;t work today and I finally made five splash screens for Mageia 2 (texts included). Hope you like them. I&#39;ll love to see some of my work on Mageia 2. I&#39;m mailing them to the artwork team too. Let me know what you think.<br>
+<br>Mageia 1 splash screen: <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</a><br>Mageia 2 splash screen proposal: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br>
+<br>Splash screen #1: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</a><br>Splash screen #2: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</a><br>
+Splash screen #3: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</a><br>Splash screen #4: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</a><br>Splash screen #5: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</a><br>
+<br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi guys,<br><br>Is there any news about the installation splash screens? I&#39;ve being a little lost (work issues) and I could&#39;ve missed something. I have one more meeting today and I can work a few hours them when I come back (if needed).<br clear="all">
+<br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi guys,<br><br>Is there any news about the installation splash screens? I&#39;ve being a little lost (work issues) and I could&#39;ve missed something. I have one more meeting today and I can work a few hours them when I come back (if needed).<br clear="all">
+<br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hello from Costa Rica,<br><br>As requested, I&#39;ve added one more splash screen about the control center. I updated the screens to fit in 457x308. And also I removed the dots so you can arrange them in any order. You can download them here:<br>
+<br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</a><br>
+<a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06.png</a><br clear="all">
+<br>My idea when making the screens was to take the user by the hand and show him or her the great options that Mageia has to offer: a community that he or she can join, the idea of freedom of choice and the availability of applications for everything needed (drawing, office suites, Internet, etc). Thru the screens I try to convince the user that Mageia is the best choice. The design I use is based on the Mageia 1 interface, and give them some modern look and feel. To create them I used a little bit of Gimp and mostly Inkscape.<br>
+<br>Just to clarify some things, I didn&#39;t know that you already have some splash screens, I was finishing one social network monitoring project and can&#39;t follow all the threads. If you want to use them I&#39;ll will be glad and honored.<br>
+<br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hello from Costa Rica,<br><br>As requested, I&#39;ve added one more splash screen about the control center. I updated the screens to fit in 457x308. And also I removed the dots so you can arrange them in any order. You can download them here:<br>
+<br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</a><br>
+<a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06.png</a><br clear="all">
+<br>My idea when making the screens was to take the user by the hand and show him or her the great options that Mageia has to offer: a community that he or she can join, the idea of freedom of choice and the availability of applications for everything needed (drawing, office suites, Internet, etc). Thru the screens I try to convince the user that Mageia is the best choice. The design I use is based on the Mageia 1 interface, and give them some modern look and feel. To create them I used a little bit of Gimp and mostly Inkscape.<br>
+<br>Just to clarify some things, I didn&#39;t know that you already have some splash screens, I was finishing one social network monitoring project and can&#39;t follow all the threads. If you want to use them I&#39;ll will be glad and honored.<br>
+<br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
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+Hi,<br><br>Here you have a new set of splash screens for the installation process. I mixed my design with Gaula&#39;s. I also adapted some of my original texts following the suggestions that I read on the messages. Hope you like them.<br>
+<br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01-2.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02-2.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03-2.png</a><br>
+<a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04-2.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05-2.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06-2.png</a><br>
+<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi,<br><br>Here you have a new set of splash screens for the installation process. I mixed my design with Gaula&#39;s. I also adapted some of my original texts following the suggestions that I read on the messages. Hope you like them.<br>
+<br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01-2.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02-2.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03-2.png</a><br>
+<a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04-2.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05-2.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06-2.png</a><br>
+<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi,<br><br>Alfter being treated twice as a guy who can&#39;t work in a community I have no other choice but to leave the community. But let me explain something before I remove my subscriptions to the lists. I joined the Mageia Marketing list trying to give back something to the distribution. My schedule constraints, due to my daily job and geographic location, makes it almost impossible to join the chats. My only reference is what I receive from the mail messages of the list, when I can read them. One day I noticed that Mageia needed better splash screens and I saw an opportunity to help. I draw a couple of screens and suggest some texts. The guys from Marketing ask me to join then the Artwork list as well. I rushed to create a set of screens and mail them to both lists before the deadline. Then I read that my screens didn&#39;t fit something (nobody has yet explained me what they didn&#39;t fit) and I rushed again to create a new set of screens trying to fix what i guess was wrong with the first set.<br>
+<br>Maybe you&#39;re right and I&#39;m not a community material. Maybe I joined without knowing how a community distribution work. Or maybe what I needed was a little introduction to how a community distribution works and what the rules are. But, after reading a couple of &quot;not so nice&quot; messages regarding my contribution to Mageia I feel that this is a community I don&#39;t want to belong.<br>
+<br>Good luck with Mageia.<br><br>Esteban<br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/3/11 Max Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div dir="ltr"><div>OK, time is of the essence, but here is where we stand:<br></div>We will be using Guala&#39;s images for the installer for Mga2. There are several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams. Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the hard work that you put in, and certainly the initiative that you showed. But Mageia is a community distribution, and that means that it is a team effort. A community is not merely a collection of individuals, but a group of people who work together. Esteban, you are clearly a very talented person and we would be more than happy if you were to join the artwork team and continue to contribute. I for one look forward to working with you in the future, but it needs to be done as part of a team. We&#39;ll probably hold on to those images of yours and use them (or a slight variation) for Mga3.<br>
+
+
+Trish told me that she would put together some text for Guala&#39;s images soon (within a day).<br>About whether the installer software will support svg images and multiple languages... That is a very good idea, but I think it may have simply come too late. Maybe next time? That will certainly require a lot of coordination with the i18n team as well as packagers.<br>
+
+
+Finally a question: who knows what needs to be done so that the final 10 PNGs will get packaged and ready to go for Beta 2?<br><br><div>These are the images we will be using:<br><span lang="en"><span><a href="http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
+
+
+
+<a href="http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
+
+
+
+
+
+<a href="http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
+
+
+
+
+
+<a href="http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png</a><br>Keep in mind that the text there is temporary and at the end we will probably only use 5 of them (each one twice with different text).<br>
+
+Have a good evening (or whatever).<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>Max</font></span></span></span><br></div></div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-artwork mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi,<br><br>Alfter being treated twice as a guy who can&#39;t work in a community I have no other choice but to leave the community. But let me explain something before I remove my subscriptions to the lists. I joined the Mageia Marketing list trying to give back something to the distribution. My schedule constraints, due to my daily job and geographic location, makes it almost impossible to join the chats. My only reference is what I receive from the mail messages of the list, when I can read them. One day I noticed that Mageia needed better splash screens and I saw an opportunity to help. I draw a couple of screens and suggest some texts. The guys from Marketing ask me to join then the Artwork list as well. I rushed to create a set of screens and mail them to both lists before the deadline. Then I read that my screens didn&#39;t fit something (nobody has yet explained me what they didn&#39;t fit) and I rushed again to create a new set of screens trying to fix what i guess was wrong with the first set.<br>
+<br>Maybe you&#39;re right and I&#39;m not a community material. Maybe I joined without knowing how a community distribution work. Or maybe what I needed was a little introduction to how a community distribution works and what the rules are. But, after reading a couple of &quot;not so nice&quot; messages regarding my contribution to Mageia I feel that this is a community I don&#39;t want to belong.<br>
+<br>Good luck with Mageia.<br><br>Esteban<br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/3/11 Max Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div dir="ltr"><div>OK, time is of the essence, but here is where we stand:<br></div>We will be using Guala&#39;s images for the installer for Mga2. There are several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams. Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the hard work that you put in, and certainly the initiative that you showed. But Mageia is a community distribution, and that means that it is a team effort. A community is not merely a collection of individuals, but a group of people who work together. Esteban, you are clearly a very talented person and we would be more than happy if you were to join the artwork team and continue to contribute. I for one look forward to working with you in the future, but it needs to be done as part of a team. We&#39;ll probably hold on to those images of yours and use them (or a slight variation) for Mga3.<br>
+
+
+Trish told me that she would put together some text for Guala&#39;s images soon (within a day).<br>About whether the installer software will support svg images and multiple languages... That is a very good idea, but I think it may have simply come too late. Maybe next time? That will certainly require a lot of coordination with the i18n team as well as packagers.<br>
+
+
+Finally a question: who knows what needs to be done so that the final 10 PNGs will get packaged and ready to go for Beta 2?<br><br><div>These are the images we will be using:<br><span lang="en"><span><a href="http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
+
+
+
+<a href="http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
+
+
+
+
+
+<a href="http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
+
+
+
+
+
+<a href="http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png</a><br>Keep in mind that the text there is temporary and at the end we will probably only use 5 of them (each one twice with different text).<br>
+
+Have a good evening (or whatever).<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>Max</font></span></span></span><br></div></div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-artwork mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+<div dir="ltr"><div>OK, time is of the essence, but here is where we stand:<br></div>We will be using Guala&#39;s images for the installer for Mga2. There are several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams. Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the hard work that you put in, and certainly the initiative that you showed. But Mageia is a community distribution, and that means that it is a team effort. A community is not merely a collection of individuals, but a group of people who work together. Esteban, you are clearly a very talented person and we would be more than happy if you were to join the artwork team and continue to contribute. I for one look forward to working with you in the future, but it needs to be done as part of a team. We&#39;ll probably hold on to those images of yours and use them (or a slight variation) for Mga3.<br>
+
+Trish told me that she would put together some text for Guala&#39;s images soon (within a day).<br>About whether the installer software will support svg images and multiple languages... That is a very good idea, but I think it may have simply come too late. Maybe next time? That will certainly require a lot of coordination with the i18n team as well as packagers.<br>
+
+Finally a question: who knows what needs to be done so that the final 10 PNGs will get packaged and ready to go for Beta 2?<br><br><div>These are the images we will be using:<br><span lang="en"><span><a href="http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
+
+
+<a href="http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
+
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+<a href="http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
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+
+<a href="http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png</a><br>Keep in mind that the text there is temporary and at the end we will probably only use 5 of them (each one twice with different text).<br>
+Have a good evening (or whatever).<br>Max</span></span><br></div></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><div>OK, time is of the essence, but here is where we stand:<br></div>We will be using Guala&#39;s images for the installer for Mga2. There are several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams. Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the hard work that you put in, and certainly the initiative that you showed. But Mageia is a community distribution, and that means that it is a team effort. A community is not merely a collection of individuals, but a group of people who work together. Esteban, you are clearly a very talented person and we would be more than happy if you were to join the artwork team and continue to contribute. I for one look forward to working with you in the future, but it needs to be done as part of a team. We&#39;ll probably hold on to those images of yours and use them (or a slight variation) for Mga3.<br>
+
+Trish told me that she would put together some text for Guala&#39;s images soon (within a day).<br>About whether the installer software will support svg images and multiple languages... That is a very good idea, but I think it may have simply come too late. Maybe next time? That will certainly require a lot of coordination with the i18n team as well as packagers.<br>
+
+Finally a question: who knows what needs to be done so that the final 10 PNGs will get packaged and ready to go for Beta 2?<br><br><div>These are the images we will be using:<br><span lang="en"><span><a href="http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
+
+
+<a href="http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
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+<a href="http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
+
+
+
+
+<a href="http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png</a><br>Keep in mind that the text there is temporary and at the end we will probably only use 5 of them (each one twice with different text).<br>
+Have a good evening (or whatever).<br>Max</span></span><br></div></div>
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+Alright, you want to know more reasons? I&#39;ll give you more reasons.<br>See, both teams heard about this bug several weeks ago, and that should have been sufficient time to come up with a good solution and put it together in time for the artwork freeze. But that&#39;s provided that everybody actually does some work.<br>
+At the time I was going through finals and couldn&#39;t really help out (and then last week I was sick for several days and totally out of commission), but I saw this as something very important and sacrificed a lot of my time to try and pull this together. In fact, I sacrificed too much of my time and my grades suffered. But that was my choice to make and I alone have to face the consequences.<br>
+Now, in the past when there were things that needed doing and deadlines looming the same thing happened, one person did most or all of the work and saved the collective asses of his or her teammates.<br>I was sincerely hoping that we could prevent that from happening again, and maybe, maybe really work together this time and share the workload. And it appeared to be working.<br>
+And then Esteban showed up with a magical external solution which was very good, but very bad for the teams.<br><br>I did not want the responsibility of artwork team leader, but I had it thrust upon me due to various circumstances that were beyond my control. And rather than pass the buck I picked up the gauntlet and faced the challenge to the best of my abilities and time.<br>
+I tried to do what I thought would be best for Mageia in general, and the artwork team in particular in the long run. If that makes me a dick, fine. I didn&#39;t set out to be a dick and had only the best intentions. I still think that what I did is better for Mageia, and given the opportunity I would do it again, but it wouldn&#39;t be any easier.<br>
+I&#39;m very sorry that Esteban feels this way, that was entirely not my intention. In fact, I was up for over an hour last night (actually very early this morning) agonizing over that email, trying my best <b>not </b>to sound like a dick. I guess I failed there.<br>
+<br>Now, I am not going to resign in a huff and storm off, because that would be even worse. I don&#39;t know what I will do, but I&#39;m open to suggestions.<br>
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+Alright, you want to know more reasons? I&#39;ll give you more reasons.<br>See, both teams heard about this bug several weeks ago, and that should have been sufficient time to come up with a good solution and put it together in time for the artwork freeze. But that&#39;s provided that everybody actually does some work.<br>
+At the time I was going through finals and couldn&#39;t really help out (and then last week I was sick for several days and totally out of commission), but I saw this as something very important and sacrificed a lot of my time to try and pull this together. In fact, I sacrificed too much of my time and my grades suffered. But that was my choice to make and I alone have to face the consequences.<br>
+Now, in the past when there were things that needed doing and deadlines looming the same thing happened, one person did most or all of the work and saved the collective asses of his or her teammates.<br>I was sincerely hoping that we could prevent that from happening again, and maybe, maybe really work together this time and share the workload. And it appeared to be working.<br>
+And then Esteban showed up with a magical external solution which was very good, but very bad for the teams.<br><br>I did not want the responsibility of artwork team leader, but I had it thrust upon me due to various circumstances that were beyond my control. And rather than pass the buck I picked up the gauntlet and faced the challenge to the best of my abilities and time.<br>
+I tried to do what I thought would be best for Mageia in general, and the artwork team in particular in the long run. If that makes me a dick, fine. I didn&#39;t set out to be a dick and had only the best intentions. I still think that what I did is better for Mageia, and given the opportunity I would do it again, but it wouldn&#39;t be any easier.<br>
+I&#39;m very sorry that Esteban feels this way, that was entirely not my intention. In fact, I was up for over an hour last night (actually very early this morning) agonizing over that email, trying my best <b>not </b>to sound like a dick. I guess I failed there.<br>
+<br>Now, I am not going to resign in a huff and storm off, because that would be even worse. I don&#39;t know what I will do, but I&#39;m open to suggestions.<br>
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+I vote for Trish for team leader.<br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr" > <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Patricia Fraser &lt;trish@thefrasers.org&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Mageia marketing team discussion list &lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt; <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, March 12, 2012 12:49 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead<br> </font> </div> <br>
+Hi all,<BR><BR>We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead<BR>and deputy team lead.<BR><BR>Candidates are:<BR><BR>Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead<BR><BR>Bradley Thornton (tallship)<BR><BR>Sebastian (sebsebseb).<BR><BR>Please feel free to ask any candidate anything relating to the election<BR>or the positions they're standing for.<BR><BR>I'd like to throw voting open as at 11:00 UTC 12 May 2012 - in about<BR>10 minutes from now - and close voting in 24 hours' time, at 11:00 UTC<BR>13 May 2012.<BR><BR>Please register your vote on the mailing list!<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>-- <BR>Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<BR>-35.67896, 142.66637<BR>Mon Mar 12 21:41:51 EST 2012<BR>GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a target="_blank" href="http://linuxcounter.net">linuxcounter.net</a><BR>hermes up 3 hour(s), 8 min.<BR>kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<BR>--<BR><br />_______________________________________________<BR>Mageia-marketing mailing list<BR><a
+ ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><BR><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target=_blank >https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><BR><br><br> </div> </div> \ No newline at end of file
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+I vote for Trish for team leader.<br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr" > <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Patricia Fraser &lt;trish@thefrasers.org&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Mageia marketing team discussion list &lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt; <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, March 12, 2012 12:49 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead<br> </font> </div> <br>
+Hi all,<BR><BR>We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead<BR>and deputy team lead.<BR><BR>Candidates are:<BR><BR>Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead<BR><BR>Bradley Thornton (tallship)<BR><BR>Sebastian (sebsebseb).<BR><BR>Please feel free to ask any candidate anything relating to the election<BR>or the positions they're standing for.<BR><BR>I'd like to throw voting open as at 11:00 UTC 12 May 2012 - in about<BR>10 minutes from now - and close voting in 24 hours' time, at 11:00 UTC<BR>13 May 2012.<BR><BR>Please register your vote on the mailing list!<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>-- <BR>Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<BR>-35.67896, 142.66637<BR>Mon Mar 12 21:41:51 EST 2012<BR>GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a target="_blank" href="http://linuxcounter.net">linuxcounter.net</a><BR>hermes up 3 hour(s), 8 min.<BR>kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<BR>--<BR><br />_______________________________________________<BR>Mageia-marketing mailing list<BR><a
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+<p>This is true, it does need more thought. Although having a list of those properties is good.</p>
+<p>I don&#39;t really think xfce qualifies as a light de anymore....</p>
+<p>Sorry for the tp, on my phone.</p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 13 Mar 2012 02:22, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
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+<br>
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+<p>I don&#39;t really think xfce qualifies as a light de anymore....</p>
+<p>Sorry for the tp, on my phone.</p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 13 Mar 2012 02:22, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
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+ Read that earlier and now replying :).<br>
+ <br>
+ Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours
+ before voting was over :), and yes now I am :).<br>
+ <br>
+ Thank You, Donald, Josh, and R&eacute;mi/Akien for voting for me :).<br>
+ <br>
+ On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120313231558.2fa768c3@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+and deputy team lead.
+
+Candidates are:
+
+Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+
+Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+
+Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+and Josh, my apologies again Josh!
+
+Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,
+the results are:
+
+Trish (for team leader): 6
+
+For deputy:
+
+Josh 1
+Bradley 1
+Seb 3
+
+I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't miscount;
+if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy and I'm still
+in the hot seat!
+
+Cheers,
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
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+ </body>
+</html>
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+ Read that earlier and now replying :).<br>
+ <br>
+ Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours
+ before voting was over :), and yes now I am :).<br>
+ <br>
+ Thank You, Donald, Josh, and R&eacute;mi/Akien for voting for me :).<br>
+ <br>
+ On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120313231558.2fa768c3@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+and deputy team lead.
+
+Candidates are:
+
+Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+
+Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+
+Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+and Josh, my apologies again Josh!
+
+Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,
+the results are:
+
+Trish (for team leader): 6
+
+For deputy:
+
+Josh 1
+Bradley 1
+Seb 3
+
+I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't miscount;
+if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy and I'm still
+in the hot seat!
+
+Cheers,
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+I&#39;m UTC minus 5, if that helps any <br><br><br>----- Reply message -----<br>From: &quot;Donald Stewart&quot; &lt;watersnowrock@gmail.com&gt;<br>To: &quot;Mageia marketing team discussion list&quot; &lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt;<br>Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS<br>Date: Tue, Mar 13, 2012 4:18 pm<br><br><br>On 13 March 2012 18:51, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; Read that earlier and now replying :).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours before<br>&gt; voting was over :), and yes now I am :).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Thank You, Donald, Josh, and Rémi/Akien for voting for me :).<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Hi all,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead<br>&gt; and deputy team lead.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Candidates are:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Bradley Thornton (tallship)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Sebastian (sebsebseb).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; and Josh, my apologies again Josh!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,<br>&gt; the results are:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Trish (for team leader): 6<br>&gt;<br>&gt; For deputy:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Josh 1<br>&gt; Bradley 1<br>&gt; Seb 3<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I&#39;d appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn&#39;t miscount;<br>&gt; if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you&#39;re the deputy and I&#39;m still<br>&gt; in the hot seat!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Cheers,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br>&gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br>&gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing<br>&gt;<br><br>Count looks good to me, congrats you two. At least there wasn&#39;t a<br>similar mix up to as with the artwork elections.<br><br>Hopefully I can be around more after uni settles.<br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br>https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing<br><br> \ No newline at end of file
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+I&#39;m UTC minus 5, if that helps any <br><br><br>----- Reply message -----<br>From: &quot;Donald Stewart&quot; &lt;watersnowrock@gmail.com&gt;<br>To: &quot;Mageia marketing team discussion list&quot; &lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt;<br>Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS<br>Date: Tue, Mar 13, 2012 4:18 pm<br><br><br>On 13 March 2012 18:51, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; Read that earlier and now replying :).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours before<br>&gt; voting was over :), and yes now I am :).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Thank You, Donald, Josh, and Rémi/Akien for voting for me :).<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Hi all,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead<br>&gt; and deputy team lead.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Candidates are:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Bradley Thornton (tallship)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Sebastian (sebsebseb).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; and Josh, my apologies again Josh!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,<br>&gt; the results are:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Trish (for team leader): 6<br>&gt;<br>&gt; For deputy:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Josh 1<br>&gt; Bradley 1<br>&gt; Seb 3<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I&#39;d appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn&#39;t miscount;<br>&gt; if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you&#39;re the deputy and I&#39;m still<br>&gt; in the hot seat!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Cheers,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br>&gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br>&gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing<br>&gt;<br><br>Count looks good to me, congrats you two. At least there wasn&#39;t a<br>similar mix up to as with the artwork elections.<br><br>Hopefully I can be around more after uni settles.<br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br>https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing<br><br> \ No newline at end of file
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+ <br>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:4F5E88B3.1030806@linuxpunks.com" type="cite">OK,
+ here are a few thoughts (consider them my planks for running if
+ you like, even though that's not my intent). I see a lot of
+ lurkers, and&nbsp; a decent amount of people who want to join in Mageia
+ but seem to be a little timid. I think we are attracting many
+ first time contributors - which is awesome!! But Maybe a bit more
+ hand holding or other infrastructure would work.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ For example, when I joined the packaging team I was welcomed with
+ open arms, given a mentor, and several places to go to ask
+ questions. It was in a word, friggin sweet (ok that's 2 words)!
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ My point in all of this is I'd love to see something that gives
+ the average user an "foot in the door" to working within Mageia.
+ As much as I hate to admit it, this is one thing Ubuntu and to a
+ lesser extent Fedora do very well.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ This is the total brainstorming part but maybe it will get the
+ ball rolling. Why not a mageia-users team/council seat? Marketing
+ of the viral kind would be amazing for us, and who better to do
+ that than excited and enthusiastic users? I'm not talking any pay
+ for membership thing, but for a user to say, my application was
+ accepted to the mageia-users team means something to many people.
+ I don't pretend that any of these ideas are particularly good, but
+ just some thinking I've been doing about bridging the gap between
+ dev/teams/ and community.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I'd love to hear ideas and thoughts on this. With Mga 2 coming up,
+ I'd love to see us making a splash with something more than just
+ download and visit the forum once in awhile.
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm; }a:link { }</style>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I agree and really everyone who uses
+ Mageia
+ is part of the community.<br>
+ <br>
+ There are many ways people can
+ contribute to Mageia without being on an official team for it. For
+ example when I mentioned IRC cloaks on the Mageia discuss and
+ marketing mailing lists, I mentioned
+ how someone should be able to do a lot of Mageia support on IRC
+ and then receive
+ one. Well when Mageia has the IRC cloaks sorted out with Freenode
+ this is.<br>
+ <br>
+ With Ubuntu there's a guy who I assume still helps out a lot in
+ the big IRC channel, and as far as I know all he did for Ubuntu or
+ mainly, was IRC support, and as a result of becoming one of the
+ main
+ support people in the channel, he was able to become a Ubuntu
+ Community Member and get the IRC cloak for example.<br>
+ <br>
+ Another
+ example of contributing to Mageia, but not really as part of an
+ official team would be what I do with the #mageia-social channel.
+ I
+ build up the #mageia-social IRC channel, and welcome new users to
+ the
+ channel, and help keep people interested in the Mageia community.
+ However really this is done as a team in a way with the other
+ users of the
+ channel who tend to chat there :), because people in general
+ aren't
+ likely to stick around for long, if not that much happens in
+ there.<br>
+ <br>
+ Someone who uses the channel has even donated money
+ twice to Mageia, and he doesn't use the distribution at the
+ moment,
+ but he uses the #mageia-social channel :). <br>
+ <br>
+ Mageia can also be
+ mentioned and promoted on podcasts for example by people, be they
+ on
+ an official team for the project or not. In fact I went on a
+ podcast
+ for my first time as a guest, to talk about Mageia and Desktop
+ Linux
+ in general and so on last year, as I was slowly deciding what I
+ wanted to do for Mageia other than IRC and Identica stuff, before
+ I
+ joined any official teams. <br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Took me quite a while to join any
+ official
+ teams, although I had been thinking about marketing for a rather
+ long
+ time here and there before I joined, and talked to Trish on IRC a
+ few times about joining. Plus some stuff to do with the mailing
+ lists and what email address I would use before I joined any
+ teams.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Someone could make
+ tutorial videos for doing things with Mageia just for fun for
+ example
+ and not be on any official team for Mageia.<br>
+ <br>
+ Or someone could type
+ blog posts every now and again about Mageia, because they like the
+ distro and not be on any official teams for example.<br>
+ <br>
+ Someone could also
+ help to build up interest in person in their local area or
+ country, and not be
+ on any official Magiea teams, yep local communities. Oh and I
+ suggest
+ watching this video if haven't already seen it:
+ <a
+href="http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm">http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm</a>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ Also someone could help to gain interest in Mageia on social
+ networking sites and not be on any official teams.&nbsp; I did that
+ for a long time before joining any official teams using Identica,
+ although that was mainly to make sure news would show in the
+ Mageia
+ group as well, but still: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Really
+ everyone who uses Mageia is part of the world wide users community
+ :).<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </p>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <br>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:4F5E88B3.1030806@linuxpunks.com" type="cite">OK,
+ here are a few thoughts (consider them my planks for running if
+ you like, even though that's not my intent). I see a lot of
+ lurkers, and&nbsp; a decent amount of people who want to join in Mageia
+ but seem to be a little timid. I think we are attracting many
+ first time contributors - which is awesome!! But Maybe a bit more
+ hand holding or other infrastructure would work.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ For example, when I joined the packaging team I was welcomed with
+ open arms, given a mentor, and several places to go to ask
+ questions. It was in a word, friggin sweet (ok that's 2 words)!
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ My point in all of this is I'd love to see something that gives
+ the average user an "foot in the door" to working within Mageia.
+ As much as I hate to admit it, this is one thing Ubuntu and to a
+ lesser extent Fedora do very well.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ This is the total brainstorming part but maybe it will get the
+ ball rolling. Why not a mageia-users team/council seat? Marketing
+ of the viral kind would be amazing for us, and who better to do
+ that than excited and enthusiastic users? I'm not talking any pay
+ for membership thing, but for a user to say, my application was
+ accepted to the mageia-users team means something to many people.
+ I don't pretend that any of these ideas are particularly good, but
+ just some thinking I've been doing about bridging the gap between
+ dev/teams/ and community.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I'd love to hear ideas and thoughts on this. With Mga 2 coming up,
+ I'd love to see us making a splash with something more than just
+ download and visit the forum once in awhile.
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm; }a:link { }</style>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I agree and really everyone who uses
+ Mageia
+ is part of the community.<br>
+ <br>
+ There are many ways people can
+ contribute to Mageia without being on an official team for it. For
+ example when I mentioned IRC cloaks on the Mageia discuss and
+ marketing mailing lists, I mentioned
+ how someone should be able to do a lot of Mageia support on IRC
+ and then receive
+ one. Well when Mageia has the IRC cloaks sorted out with Freenode
+ this is.<br>
+ <br>
+ With Ubuntu there's a guy who I assume still helps out a lot in
+ the big IRC channel, and as far as I know all he did for Ubuntu or
+ mainly, was IRC support, and as a result of becoming one of the
+ main
+ support people in the channel, he was able to become a Ubuntu
+ Community Member and get the IRC cloak for example.<br>
+ <br>
+ Another
+ example of contributing to Mageia, but not really as part of an
+ official team would be what I do with the #mageia-social channel.
+ I
+ build up the #mageia-social IRC channel, and welcome new users to
+ the
+ channel, and help keep people interested in the Mageia community.
+ However really this is done as a team in a way with the other
+ users of the
+ channel who tend to chat there :), because people in general
+ aren't
+ likely to stick around for long, if not that much happens in
+ there.<br>
+ <br>
+ Someone who uses the channel has even donated money
+ twice to Mageia, and he doesn't use the distribution at the
+ moment,
+ but he uses the #mageia-social channel :). <br>
+ <br>
+ Mageia can also be
+ mentioned and promoted on podcasts for example by people, be they
+ on
+ an official team for the project or not. In fact I went on a
+ podcast
+ for my first time as a guest, to talk about Mageia and Desktop
+ Linux
+ in general and so on last year, as I was slowly deciding what I
+ wanted to do for Mageia other than IRC and Identica stuff, before
+ I
+ joined any official teams. <br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Took me quite a while to join any
+ official
+ teams, although I had been thinking about marketing for a rather
+ long
+ time here and there before I joined, and talked to Trish on IRC a
+ few times about joining. Plus some stuff to do with the mailing
+ lists and what email address I would use before I joined any
+ teams.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Someone could make
+ tutorial videos for doing things with Mageia just for fun for
+ example
+ and not be on any official team for Mageia.<br>
+ <br>
+ Or someone could type
+ blog posts every now and again about Mageia, because they like the
+ distro and not be on any official teams for example.<br>
+ <br>
+ Someone could also
+ help to build up interest in person in their local area or
+ country, and not be
+ on any official Magiea teams, yep local communities. Oh and I
+ suggest
+ watching this video if haven't already seen it:
+ <a
+href="http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm">http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm</a>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ Also someone could help to gain interest in Mageia on social
+ networking sites and not be on any official teams.&nbsp; I did that
+ for a long time before joining any official teams using Identica,
+ although that was mainly to make sure news would show in the
+ Mageia
+ group as well, but still: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Really
+ everyone who uses Mageia is part of the world wide users community
+ :).<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </p>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Patricia Fraser &lt;trish@thefrasers.org&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> mageia-marketing@mageia.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:34 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS<br> </font> </div> <br>Hi<br><br>Midnight UTC is 2 AM for me :D <br>It is my go to bed time, but i try to stay awake at least for while :)<br>
+<br>
+tumbeliina<br>
+<br><br><br><br>
+Okay!<br><br>Can we please start a piratepad here:<br><br>http://bn.parinux.org/<br><br>(it's more robust than piratepad itself, but if you're not comfortable<br>with it being in French, piratepad is piratepad.net.)<br><br>Whoever starts it, please email the link to the actual collaborative<br>document to the list. If you could paste in the texts we have so far -<br>mine, Seb's, other suggestions - we'll have somewhere to start. Once<br>the doc is up, we can work on it together if we're awake together or<br>separately if we're not!<br><br>Seb is UTC, you(Josh)'re UTC -5, Bradley is sleeping (I think), I'm<br>UTC+11.<br><br>I am going on trusty old <a target="_blank" href="http://timeanddate.com">timeanddate.com</a>, and this is what it looks<br>like:<br><br>http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?year=2012&amp;month=3&amp;day=14&amp;p1=152&amp;p2=263<br><br>If you guys are okay to do it in a couple of hours' time - say midnight<br>UTC for
+ an hour, because that's going to be plenty of time - I'm<br>available then. Otherwise, get started and I'll check in once I have<br>the link.<br><br>Cheers!<br><br><br><br>&gt; I'm UTC minus 5, if that helps any <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; ----- Reply message -----<br>&gt; From: "Donald Stewart" &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com" href="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com">watersnowrock@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt; To: "Mageia marketing team discussion list"<br>&gt; &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt; Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for<br>&gt; our team lead and deputy lead -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RESULTS Date: Tue, Mar 13,<br>&gt; 2012 4:18 pm<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; On 13 March 2012 18:51, Sebastian sebsebseb<br>&gt; &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com" href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt;
+ wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Read that earlier and now replying :).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours<br>&gt; &gt; before voting was over :), and yes now I am :).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Thank You, Donald, Josh, and Rmi/Akien for voting for me :).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Hi all,<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead<br>&gt; &gt; and deputy team lead.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Candidates are:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Bradley Thornton (tallship)<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Sebastian (sebsebseb).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; and Josh, my apologies again Josh!<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,<br>&gt; &gt; the results are:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
+ &gt; Trish (for team leader): 6<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; For deputy:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Josh&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1<br>&gt; &gt; Bradley&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1<br>&gt; &gt; Seb&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't<br>&gt; &gt; miscount; if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy<br>&gt; &gt; and I'm still in the hot seat!<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Cheers,<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; &gt; <a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>&gt; &gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;
+ _______________________________________________<br>&gt; &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; &gt; <a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>&gt; &gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Count looks good to me, congrats you two. At least there wasn't a<br>&gt; similar mix up to as with the artwork elections.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hopefully I can be around more after uni settles.<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; <a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>&gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>&gt; <br><br><br><br>-- <br>Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>-35.67896, 142.66637<br>Wed Mar 14 08:24:36 EST 2012<br>GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a target="_blank" href="http://linuxcounter.net">linuxcounter.net</a><br>hermes up 10 hour(s), 0 min.<br>kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>--<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br><br><br> </div> </div> </div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Patricia Fraser &lt;trish@thefrasers.org&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> mageia-marketing@mageia.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:34 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS<br> </font> </div> <br>Hi<br><br>Midnight UTC is 2 AM for me :D <br>It is my go to bed time, but i try to stay awake at least for while :)<br>
+<br>
+tumbeliina<br>
+<br><br><br><br>
+Okay!<br><br>Can we please start a piratepad here:<br><br>http://bn.parinux.org/<br><br>(it's more robust than piratepad itself, but if you're not comfortable<br>with it being in French, piratepad is piratepad.net.)<br><br>Whoever starts it, please email the link to the actual collaborative<br>document to the list. If you could paste in the texts we have so far -<br>mine, Seb's, other suggestions - we'll have somewhere to start. Once<br>the doc is up, we can work on it together if we're awake together or<br>separately if we're not!<br><br>Seb is UTC, you(Josh)'re UTC -5, Bradley is sleeping (I think), I'm<br>UTC+11.<br><br>I am going on trusty old <a target="_blank" href="http://timeanddate.com">timeanddate.com</a>, and this is what it looks<br>like:<br><br>http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?year=2012&amp;month=3&amp;day=14&amp;p1=152&amp;p2=263<br><br>If you guys are okay to do it in a couple of hours' time - say midnight<br>UTC for
+ an hour, because that's going to be plenty of time - I'm<br>available then. Otherwise, get started and I'll check in once I have<br>the link.<br><br>Cheers!<br><br><br><br>&gt; I'm UTC minus 5, if that helps any <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; ----- Reply message -----<br>&gt; From: "Donald Stewart" &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com" href="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com">watersnowrock@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt; To: "Mageia marketing team discussion list"<br>&gt; &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt; Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for<br>&gt; our team lead and deputy lead -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RESULTS Date: Tue, Mar 13,<br>&gt; 2012 4:18 pm<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; On 13 March 2012 18:51, Sebastian sebsebseb<br>&gt; &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com" href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt;
+ wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Read that earlier and now replying :).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours<br>&gt; &gt; before voting was over :), and yes now I am :).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Thank You, Donald, Josh, and Rmi/Akien for voting for me :).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Hi all,<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead<br>&gt; &gt; and deputy team lead.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Candidates are:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Bradley Thornton (tallship)<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Sebastian (sebsebseb).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; and Josh, my apologies again Josh!<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,<br>&gt; &gt; the results are:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
+ &gt; Trish (for team leader): 6<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; For deputy:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Josh&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1<br>&gt; &gt; Bradley&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1<br>&gt; &gt; Seb&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't<br>&gt; &gt; miscount; if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy<br>&gt; &gt; and I'm still in the hot seat!<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Cheers,<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; &gt; <a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>&gt; &gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;
+ _______________________________________________<br>&gt; &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; &gt; <a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>&gt; &gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Count looks good to me, congrats you two. At least there wasn't a<br>&gt; similar mix up to as with the artwork elections.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hopefully I can be around more after uni settles.<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; <a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>&gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>&gt; <br><br><br><br>-- <br>Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>-35.67896, 142.66637<br>Wed Mar 14 08:24:36 EST 2012<br>GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a target="_blank" href="http://linuxcounter.net">linuxcounter.net</a><br>hermes up 10 hour(s), 0 min.<br>kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>--<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br><br><br> </div> </div> </div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<div dir="ltr">I agree.<br>One channel of communication, separate council seats.<br>We probably need two defacto leaders (council seats) but I think one deputy (whose job is just to pick up the slack if a leader is unavailable) is enough.<br>
+</div>
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+<div dir="ltr">I agree.<br>One channel of communication, separate council seats.<br>We probably need two defacto leaders (council seats) but I think one deputy (whose job is just to pick up the slack if a leader is unavailable) is enough.<br>
+</div>
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+<p>Im for it. They&#39;re are many people on both teams and most if not all projects are connected.</p>
+<p>However, meetings and whatnot should remain separate. Although that OS probably getting ahead of myself.</p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 15 Mar 2012 20:44, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+There&#39;s a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,<br>
+to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and<br>
+artwork.<br>
+<br>
+What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it&#39;s<br>
+very important to marketing), so I wouldn&#39;t have any problem with it<br>
+personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Fri Mar 16 07:41:48 EST 2012<br>
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+hermes up 0 hour(s), 30 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
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+<br></blockquote></p>
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+<p>Im for it. They&#39;re are many people on both teams and most if not all projects are connected.</p>
+<p>However, meetings and whatnot should remain separate. Although that OS probably getting ahead of myself.</p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 15 Mar 2012 20:44, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+There&#39;s a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,<br>
+to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and<br>
+artwork.<br>
+<br>
+What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it&#39;s<br>
+very important to marketing), so I wouldn&#39;t have any problem with it<br>
+personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Fri Mar 16 07:41:48 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+hermes up 0 hour(s), 30 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+</font><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></p>
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+I think too that it makes sense to merge art and marcom :)<br /><br />Good art is the best marketing. <br /><br />tumbeliina<br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr" > <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Josh King &lt;josh@linuxpunks.com&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Mageia marketing team discussion list &lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt; <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:55 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork<br> </font> </div> <br>
+On 03/15/2012 03:44 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:<BR>&gt; Hi all,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,<BR>&gt; to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and<BR>&gt; artwork.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's<BR>&gt; very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it<BR>&gt; personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers,<BR><BR>I think it makes sense to merge them. Maybe MArtCom team? ;-)<BR><BR>Personally what I would really like to see is more community outreach type functions; getting users involved in more areas. Something like a planet for mageia users even might be a good start? Anyway, I've been kicking around some ideas and will put them up to the group once they've
+ solidified.<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR>Josh<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Mageia-marketing mailing list<BR><a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><BR><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target=_blank >https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><BR><br><br> </div> </div> \ No newline at end of file
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+I think too that it makes sense to merge art and marcom :)<br /><br />Good art is the best marketing. <br /><br />tumbeliina<br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr" > <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Josh King &lt;josh@linuxpunks.com&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Mageia marketing team discussion list &lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt; <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:55 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork<br> </font> </div> <br>
+On 03/15/2012 03:44 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:<BR>&gt; Hi all,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,<BR>&gt; to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and<BR>&gt; artwork.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's<BR>&gt; very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it<BR>&gt; personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers,<BR><BR>I think it makes sense to merge them. Maybe MArtCom team? ;-)<BR><BR>Personally what I would really like to see is more community outreach type functions; getting users involved in more areas. Something like a planet for mageia users even might be a good start? Anyway, I've been kicking around some ideas and will put them up to the group once they've
+ solidified.<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR>Josh<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Mageia-marketing mailing list<BR><a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><BR><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target=_blank >https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><BR><br><br> </div> </div> \ No newline at end of file
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+ On 17/03/12, Bradley D. Thornton typed:<br>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:4F649C63.1030506@NorthTech.US" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Anyway, my post won't make any difference
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm;</style>I think it
+ already has :). I think that
+ was a very good message. I do however think that it is a good idea
+ to
+ completely merge with the artwork team and how I had suggested in my
+ email to this mailing list and the artwork. Why? Simple, because
+ then
+ as a whole there will be more control, over a team that has been
+ having problems. <br>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">The big MArtCom team can be split up
+ into
+ sub teams of people who are only or mainly working on specific
+ tasks,
+ but members in our team can provide feedback and support for tasks
+ that are being worked on by other people in the team as well.&nbsp;
+ For example graphics designers could be working on the installer
+ slide show images, but also provide feedback about the installer
+ slide show text from marketing people.&nbsp; Or marketing team people
+ could be working on reviews, but also provide feedback of the
+ looks
+ of the graphics.<br>
+ <br>
+ Trish has been working with the artwork team
+ quite a lot in the last few months or more. I noticed this and
+ that was why I made sure to join the artwork team mailing list,
+ and
+ so the team as well as a result, soon after joining marketing,
+ even
+ though not really a graphics designer.<br>
+ <br>
+ Something else it seems
+ the marketing and artwork team IRC meetings have been linked
+ together
+ as to when they are for which team. For example one week is
+ marketing
+ and the next is artwork and at that time, or that's meant to be
+ the
+ idea in general.<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ Bradley glad you seem to be
+ feeling better :).<br>
+ </p>
+ </body>
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+ On 17/03/12, Bradley D. Thornton typed:<br>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:4F649C63.1030506@NorthTech.US" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Anyway, my post won't make any difference
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm;</style>I think it
+ already has :). I think that
+ was a very good message. I do however think that it is a good idea
+ to
+ completely merge with the artwork team and how I had suggested in my
+ email to this mailing list and the artwork. Why? Simple, because
+ then
+ as a whole there will be more control, over a team that has been
+ having problems. <br>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">The big MArtCom team can be split up
+ into
+ sub teams of people who are only or mainly working on specific
+ tasks,
+ but members in our team can provide feedback and support for tasks
+ that are being worked on by other people in the team as well.&nbsp;
+ For example graphics designers could be working on the installer
+ slide show images, but also provide feedback about the installer
+ slide show text from marketing people.&nbsp; Or marketing team people
+ could be working on reviews, but also provide feedback of the
+ looks
+ of the graphics.<br>
+ <br>
+ Trish has been working with the artwork team
+ quite a lot in the last few months or more. I noticed this and
+ that was why I made sure to join the artwork team mailing list,
+ and
+ so the team as well as a result, soon after joining marketing,
+ even
+ though not really a graphics designer.<br>
+ <br>
+ Something else it seems
+ the marketing and artwork team IRC meetings have been linked
+ together
+ as to when they are for which team. For example one week is
+ marketing
+ and the next is artwork and at that time, or that's meant to be
+ the
+ idea in general.<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ Bradley glad you seem to be
+ feeling better :).<br>
+ </p>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ I think Max's email explains it very well. <br>
+ <br>
+ Just want to add the council representative is usually the leader or
+ deputy leader depending on the meeting it seems for Mageia teams,
+ however I think for Mageia teams that it would be good if both the
+ leader and deputy leader could be this together at council meetings
+ together for example.<br>
+ <br>
+ On 17/03/12 18:43, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kyisy5BJH0o5FcuGknGHkYGcgYMwS7ha6LokLfa1kF8Fbg@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">Think of it this way: both artwork and marcom are
+ concerned with the appearance of Mageia. It's all about how we
+ present ourselves to the world. Whether it's a shiny desktop,
+ eye catching posters or good content on podcasts. It all boils
+ down to the same thing: how we look to the outside world.<br>
+ One of main problems we have with this is good communication.
+ It's not just this one project where the two teams need to work
+ together, but it's many projects. Thinking back for a few
+ seconds I recall the booth setup for FOSDEM, the posters, the
+ disc covers and a few other projects where both teams needed to
+ work together.<br>
+ Aside from the lack of cooperation <i>within</i> the team,
+ there was bad communication <i>between</i> teams. Efforts have
+ been made in the past to try and amplify the cooperation, by
+ staggering IRC meetings, by having people sign up for both
+ mailing lists... but they never worked well. Most recently when
+ we tried to collaborate we had many double posts on both lists,
+ many redundant threads and many people being left out of the
+ loop. Why? Because we were trying to communicate across two
+ different lists and more or less the same people.<br>
+ Now, to clarify: the proposal isn't to merge the actual teams,
+ just the communication channels. There will be (under the new
+ proposal) one mailing list and one IRC channel. But essentially
+ both teams will function as before. Each team will have one
+ leader and one council representative (probably the same person
+ for each team) and one deputy. This way both teams can function
+ as a single unit when it comes to cross-communication and idea
+ sharing (which happens a lot), but each team retains its
+ autonomy.<br>
+ </div>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
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+ I think Max's email explains it very well. <br>
+ <br>
+ Just want to add the council representative is usually the leader or
+ deputy leader depending on the meeting it seems for Mageia teams,
+ however I think for Mageia teams that it would be good if both the
+ leader and deputy leader could be this together at council meetings
+ together for example.<br>
+ <br>
+ On 17/03/12 18:43, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kyisy5BJH0o5FcuGknGHkYGcgYMwS7ha6LokLfa1kF8Fbg@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">Think of it this way: both artwork and marcom are
+ concerned with the appearance of Mageia. It's all about how we
+ present ourselves to the world. Whether it's a shiny desktop,
+ eye catching posters or good content on podcasts. It all boils
+ down to the same thing: how we look to the outside world.<br>
+ One of main problems we have with this is good communication.
+ It's not just this one project where the two teams need to work
+ together, but it's many projects. Thinking back for a few
+ seconds I recall the booth setup for FOSDEM, the posters, the
+ disc covers and a few other projects where both teams needed to
+ work together.<br>
+ Aside from the lack of cooperation <i>within</i> the team,
+ there was bad communication <i>between</i> teams. Efforts have
+ been made in the past to try and amplify the cooperation, by
+ staggering IRC meetings, by having people sign up for both
+ mailing lists... but they never worked well. Most recently when
+ we tried to collaborate we had many double posts on both lists,
+ many redundant threads and many people being left out of the
+ loop. Why? Because we were trying to communicate across two
+ different lists and more or less the same people.<br>
+ Now, to clarify: the proposal isn't to merge the actual teams,
+ just the communication channels. There will be (under the new
+ proposal) one mailing list and one IRC channel. But essentially
+ both teams will function as before. Each team will have one
+ leader and one council representative (probably the same person
+ for each team) and one deputy. This way both teams can function
+ as a single unit when it comes to cross-communication and idea
+ sharing (which happens a lot), but each team retains its
+ autonomy.<br>
+ </div>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<div dir="ltr">Think of it this way: both artwork and marcom are concerned with the appearance of Mageia. It&#39;s all about how we present ourselves to the world. Whether it&#39;s a shiny desktop, eye catching posters or good content on podcasts. It all boils down to the same thing: how we look to the outside world.<br>
+One of main problems we have with this is good communication. It&#39;s not just this one project where the two teams need to work together, but it&#39;s many projects. Thinking back for a few seconds I recall the booth setup for FOSDEM, the posters, the disc covers and a few other projects where both teams needed to work together.<br>
+Aside from the lack of cooperation <i>within</i> the team, there was bad communication <i>between</i> teams. Efforts have been made in the past to try and amplify the cooperation, by
+ staggering IRC meetings, by having people sign up for both mailing
+lists... but they never worked well. Most recently when we tried to collaborate we had many double posts on both lists, many redundant threads and many people being left out of the loop. Why? Because we were trying to communicate across two different lists and more or less the same people.<br>
+Now, to clarify: the proposal isn&#39;t to merge the actual teams, just the communication channels. There will be (under the new proposal) one mailing list and one IRC channel. But essentially both teams will function as before. Each team will have one leader and one council representative (probably the same person for each team) and one deputy. This way both teams can function as a single unit when it comes to cross-communication and idea sharing (which happens a lot), but each team retains its autonomy.<br>
+</div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Think of it this way: both artwork and marcom are concerned with the appearance of Mageia. It&#39;s all about how we present ourselves to the world. Whether it&#39;s a shiny desktop, eye catching posters or good content on podcasts. It all boils down to the same thing: how we look to the outside world.<br>
+One of main problems we have with this is good communication. It&#39;s not just this one project where the two teams need to work together, but it&#39;s many projects. Thinking back for a few seconds I recall the booth setup for FOSDEM, the posters, the disc covers and a few other projects where both teams needed to work together.<br>
+Aside from the lack of cooperation <i>within</i> the team, there was bad communication <i>between</i> teams. Efforts have been made in the past to try and amplify the cooperation, by
+ staggering IRC meetings, by having people sign up for both mailing
+lists... but they never worked well. Most recently when we tried to collaborate we had many double posts on both lists, many redundant threads and many people being left out of the loop. Why? Because we were trying to communicate across two different lists and more or less the same people.<br>
+Now, to clarify: the proposal isn&#39;t to merge the actual teams, just the communication channels. There will be (under the new proposal) one mailing list and one IRC channel. But essentially both teams will function as before. Each team will have one leader and one council representative (probably the same person for each team) and one deputy. This way both teams can function as a single unit when it comes to cross-communication and idea sharing (which happens a lot), but each team retains its autonomy.<br>
+</div>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm; }</style>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Hi<br>
+ <br>
+ Been recently thinking about it
+ again how I shouldn't need to resend (re dent) Mageia news to the
+ Mageia group on Identica, or make my own messages with the news
+ instead to the
+ group, because the Mageia account should be sending to it in the
+ first place and ideally the tag as well.
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/mageia">http://identi.ca/mageia</a>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/tag/mageia">http://identi.ca/tag/mageia</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Last year for example when mentioning
+ the Identica issue on IRC at times, there was a time when&nbsp; I was
+ told to contact
+ the marketing mailing list about it. Something that I didn't
+ bother to do at the time.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I think
+ that the news should go to where it is meant to on, Twitter,
+ Facebook, and Identica, but also other sites such as Google+.<br>
+ <br>
+ With
+ another program news can be sent from Diaspora which like Identica
+ is
+ a open social networking site.&nbsp; News can be sent from Diaspora
+ to Identica, and then from Identica to Twitter.&nbsp; Then I think&nbsp;
+ some how news can be sent directly from Twitter to Facebook as
+ well. Twitter does not have an official way to send to Identica.<br>
+ <br>
+ The
+ current way of sending the news has not been working that well for
+ a
+ long time now, and it would be great if this issue can be finally
+ properly sorted out. <br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I am rather used to my work around
+ sending the news myself to Identica's Mageia group and tag, but
+ this
+ is still an issue that I think should be properly sorted out. Not
+ that long ago I also sent some myself to Diaspora.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">There is also someone who it seems
+ wants to promote Mageia more on Diaspora, but it seems that many
+ of those messages will also go to other sites as well such as
+ Identica and Twitter.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">In the past the Mageia account has
+ sent to
+ the Mageia group, but very rarely.<br>
+ <br>
+ Just being a bit more clear
+ Identica has a bridge to Twitter it will even convert ! to #.&nbsp; !
+ is used to send to the !mageia&nbsp; group for example and # is used
+ to send to the tag.<br>
+ <br>
+ When I re dent news I make sure it
+ gets sent to both the group and tag.&nbsp; In the past on Identica !
+ would send to the tag as well, but that hasn't been the case since
+ when the site got re designed last year and new features got
+ added.<br>
+ <br>
+ We should also be taking all of the social networking
+ sites seriously where Mageia has a presence, and so really
+ Identica
+ should still be mentioned on the site as well for example.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Before Mageia 1 Identica and Twitter
+ were both mentioned on <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://magiea.org">http://magiea.org</a>, but then Magiea 1 got
+ released and Identica stopped being mentioned.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I
+ hope that this message makes enough sense, but if not I can try
+ and
+ explain better later on</p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I would also like to become an admin
+ of the Mageia Identica group, so that I can deal with any fake
+ accounts for example.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">For a long time the Mageia group on
+ Identica didn't even have a display picture, even though the
+ Mageia account had a logo for quite a while.I had even been in
+ communication on Identica with people who were wondering about
+ that before.&nbsp; <br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">One day suddenly the group had the
+ logo, and someone else had been made an admin of the group, I
+ assume it was them who uploaded the logo as well. I contacted them
+ about how they had been made admin, but only to get a reply I
+ hadn't been expecting. I later found the Identica conversation
+ that they had with @support requesting to become an admin of that
+ group..<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </p>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm; }</style>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Hi<br>
+ <br>
+ Been recently thinking about it
+ again how I shouldn't need to resend (re dent) Mageia news to the
+ Mageia group on Identica, or make my own messages with the news
+ instead to the
+ group, because the Mageia account should be sending to it in the
+ first place and ideally the tag as well.
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/mageia">http://identi.ca/mageia</a>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/tag/mageia">http://identi.ca/tag/mageia</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Last year for example when mentioning
+ the Identica issue on IRC at times, there was a time when&nbsp; I was
+ told to contact
+ the marketing mailing list about it. Something that I didn't
+ bother to do at the time.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I think
+ that the news should go to where it is meant to on, Twitter,
+ Facebook, and Identica, but also other sites such as Google+.<br>
+ <br>
+ With
+ another program news can be sent from Diaspora which like Identica
+ is
+ a open social networking site.&nbsp; News can be sent from Diaspora
+ to Identica, and then from Identica to Twitter.&nbsp; Then I think&nbsp;
+ some how news can be sent directly from Twitter to Facebook as
+ well. Twitter does not have an official way to send to Identica.<br>
+ <br>
+ The
+ current way of sending the news has not been working that well for
+ a
+ long time now, and it would be great if this issue can be finally
+ properly sorted out. <br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I am rather used to my work around
+ sending the news myself to Identica's Mageia group and tag, but
+ this
+ is still an issue that I think should be properly sorted out. Not
+ that long ago I also sent some myself to Diaspora.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">There is also someone who it seems
+ wants to promote Mageia more on Diaspora, but it seems that many
+ of those messages will also go to other sites as well such as
+ Identica and Twitter.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">In the past the Mageia account has
+ sent to
+ the Mageia group, but very rarely.<br>
+ <br>
+ Just being a bit more clear
+ Identica has a bridge to Twitter it will even convert ! to #.&nbsp; !
+ is used to send to the !mageia&nbsp; group for example and # is used
+ to send to the tag.<br>
+ <br>
+ When I re dent news I make sure it
+ gets sent to both the group and tag.&nbsp; In the past on Identica !
+ would send to the tag as well, but that hasn't been the case since
+ when the site got re designed last year and new features got
+ added.<br>
+ <br>
+ We should also be taking all of the social networking
+ sites seriously where Mageia has a presence, and so really
+ Identica
+ should still be mentioned on the site as well for example.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Before Mageia 1 Identica and Twitter
+ were both mentioned on <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://magiea.org">http://magiea.org</a>, but then Magiea 1 got
+ released and Identica stopped being mentioned.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I
+ hope that this message makes enough sense, but if not I can try
+ and
+ explain better later on</p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I would also like to become an admin
+ of the Mageia Identica group, so that I can deal with any fake
+ accounts for example.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">For a long time the Mageia group on
+ Identica didn't even have a display picture, even though the
+ Mageia account had a logo for quite a while.I had even been in
+ communication on Identica with people who were wondering about
+ that before.&nbsp; <br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">One day suddenly the group had the
+ logo, and someone else had been made an admin of the group, I
+ assume it was them who uploaded the logo as well. I contacted them
+ about how they had been made admin, but only to get a reply I
+ hadn't been expecting. I later found the Identica conversation
+ that they had with @support requesting to become an admin of that
+ group..<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </p>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm; }a:link { }</style>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Hello fellow team members :).<br>
+ <br>
+ Last
+ year I was on a podcast for my first time, towards the end of
+ September, when I went on one as a
+ guest. It was a very general episode mentioning&nbsp; Mageia,
+ Mandriva, Ubuntu, PC Linux OS, Gnome, KDE, and so on, that was
+ rather long, with some music in it as well. It was a
+ special episode that had been arranged with the hosts who I had
+ already known on IRC for about two years or so. The other host
+ wasn't
+ in the episode.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">This was before I had joined any
+ official
+ Mageia teams and was thinking still about if I wanted to join any
+ or not, such as marketing and QA. However just like now I was
+ around on
+ IRC a lot then and had IRC channels such as #mageia-uk and
+ #mageia-social, and still got those now. I was also messaging
+ quite a
+ lot about Mageia on Identica although mainly to make sure that the
+ news would show in the group ( <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</a> ) as
+ well, but sometimes about Mageia with
+ people who were interested in it as well for example. <br>
+ <br>
+ I had
+ also on IRC talked to one of the Mageia founders about going on
+ the podcast
+ with him at some stage a few times, and he agreed. This hasn't
+ happened yet, but may happen in the future.<br>
+ <br>
+ Next time I go on
+ this particular podcast I can go on as a proper official Mageia
+ marketing team
+ representative :), and they will have me on again no problem in
+ the
+ future :).<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">It had been in the plans for me to be
+ on it as a guest, for quite a long time before I did go on it. I
+ have listened to all of their episodes so far including the test
+ episode. However it has been quite a while since they last had
+ one, because the other host is busy with other things a lot at the
+ moment. <br>
+ <br>
+ I know
+ someone from Identica who has a podcast where he mentioned Mageia
+ 1
+ in his first and second episode for example a bit. He was going to
+ review it, but then Grub issues. <br>
+ <br>
+ I asked him last week if I
+ could go on it as a guest to talk about Mageia and he suggested
+ doing
+ a pre recorded message for a 3rd of May episode of his
+ podcast.<br>
+ <a href="http://identi.ca/notice/91893908">http://identi.ca/notice/91893908</a>
+ <a href="http://identi.ca/conversation/91624243">http://identi.ca/conversation/91624243</a><br>
+ <br>
+ More
+ recently he also does a podcast with someone who used to be on the
+ one I was a guest on, a lot for about a year or so. The one I went
+ on
+ as a guest for my very first time on a podcast.<br>
+ <br>
+ I asked him
+ last week if I could go on his podcast and no problem. I mentioned
+ adding it to our WIKI, and he suggested mentioning it being&nbsp;
+ NSFW.&nbsp; Not Safe For Work as in for example contains swearing
+ sometimes.&nbsp; <br>
+ <br>
+ if I am going to guest on it talking
+ officially about Mageia I will request that the episode is kept
+ SFW
+ Safe For Work first.&nbsp; <br>
+ <br>
+ I guess it doesn't really matter
+ if normally a podcast usually has swearing in it for example, that
+ I
+ may later go on as an official Mageia spokes person. When it comes
+ to
+ telling people about the episode, or in the case of the WIKI about
+ the podcast in general? Other than for example probably mentioning
+ something about the swearing? What are your thoughts about this?
+ What
+ do you think?&nbsp; This is the main reason for this email message to
+ find that out.<br>
+ <br>
+ As for podcast contents when on them talking
+ officially about Mageia, what do you think should be mentioned?<br>
+ <br>
+ From
+ Sebastian<br>
+ </p>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm; }a:link { }</style>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Hello fellow team members :).<br>
+ <br>
+ Last
+ year I was on a podcast for my first time, towards the end of
+ September, when I went on one as a
+ guest. It was a very general episode mentioning&nbsp; Mageia,
+ Mandriva, Ubuntu, PC Linux OS, Gnome, KDE, and so on, that was
+ rather long, with some music in it as well. It was a
+ special episode that had been arranged with the hosts who I had
+ already known on IRC for about two years or so. The other host
+ wasn't
+ in the episode.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">This was before I had joined any
+ official
+ Mageia teams and was thinking still about if I wanted to join any
+ or not, such as marketing and QA. However just like now I was
+ around on
+ IRC a lot then and had IRC channels such as #mageia-uk and
+ #mageia-social, and still got those now. I was also messaging
+ quite a
+ lot about Mageia on Identica although mainly to make sure that the
+ news would show in the group ( <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</a> ) as
+ well, but sometimes about Mageia with
+ people who were interested in it as well for example. <br>
+ <br>
+ I had
+ also on IRC talked to one of the Mageia founders about going on
+ the podcast
+ with him at some stage a few times, and he agreed. This hasn't
+ happened yet, but may happen in the future.<br>
+ <br>
+ Next time I go on
+ this particular podcast I can go on as a proper official Mageia
+ marketing team
+ representative :), and they will have me on again no problem in
+ the
+ future :).<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">It had been in the plans for me to be
+ on it as a guest, for quite a long time before I did go on it. I
+ have listened to all of their episodes so far including the test
+ episode. However it has been quite a while since they last had
+ one, because the other host is busy with other things a lot at the
+ moment. <br>
+ <br>
+ I know
+ someone from Identica who has a podcast where he mentioned Mageia
+ 1
+ in his first and second episode for example a bit. He was going to
+ review it, but then Grub issues. <br>
+ <br>
+ I asked him last week if I
+ could go on it as a guest to talk about Mageia and he suggested
+ doing
+ a pre recorded message for a 3rd of May episode of his
+ podcast.<br>
+ <a href="http://identi.ca/notice/91893908">http://identi.ca/notice/91893908</a>
+ <a href="http://identi.ca/conversation/91624243">http://identi.ca/conversation/91624243</a><br>
+ <br>
+ More
+ recently he also does a podcast with someone who used to be on the
+ one I was a guest on, a lot for about a year or so. The one I went
+ on
+ as a guest for my very first time on a podcast.<br>
+ <br>
+ I asked him
+ last week if I could go on his podcast and no problem. I mentioned
+ adding it to our WIKI, and he suggested mentioning it being&nbsp;
+ NSFW.&nbsp; Not Safe For Work as in for example contains swearing
+ sometimes.&nbsp; <br>
+ <br>
+ if I am going to guest on it talking
+ officially about Mageia I will request that the episode is kept
+ SFW
+ Safe For Work first.&nbsp; <br>
+ <br>
+ I guess it doesn't really matter
+ if normally a podcast usually has swearing in it for example, that
+ I
+ may later go on as an official Mageia spokes person. When it comes
+ to
+ telling people about the episode, or in the case of the WIKI about
+ the podcast in general? Other than for example probably mentioning
+ something about the swearing? What are your thoughts about this?
+ What
+ do you think?&nbsp; This is the main reason for this email message to
+ find that out.<br>
+ <br>
+ As for podcast contents when on them talking
+ officially about Mageia, what do you think should be mentioned?<br>
+ <br>
+ From
+ Sebastian<br>
+ </p>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<div dir="ltr">Alright people, it&#39;s time to start the discussion on the new installer images (or more accurately, continue from last week&#39;s meeting).<br>A good jumping off point would be the texts.<br>We have 5 texts, but some people mostly me) are unhappy with them. I think that there should be more of an emphasis on the unique qualities of Mageia rather than pointing out all of the things that we do just like any other Linux distro.<br>
+The current texts are:<br><br>
+1. Mageia isn&#39;t just a Linux distribution: we&#39;re a community of<br>
+ users, developers and advocates from around the world.<br>
+<br>
+2. Free software means choice: KDE, GNOME, LXDE or other desktops;<br>
+ Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution<br>
+ for mail...<br>
+<br>
+3. Mageia covers your graphics, your video creation and editing needs<br>
+ with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...<br>
+<br>
+4. Mageia&#39;s Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up<br>
+ your hardware, software and more, all in one place.<br>
+<br>
+5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash,<br>
+ KMyMoney and others cover word processing, spreadsheets,<br>
+ presentations and finance.<br><br>So that means that I&#39;m happy with 1 and 4, but less happy with the other three.<br>Maybe if it was the other way around: 3 texts describing the uniqueness of Mageia and 2 describing other things. Or better yet, 4 or 5 texts describing the uniqueness of Mageia, but I know that that is less likely and less easy.<br>
+<br>Once we have settled on the texts (or even as we thrash them out) we should discuss ideas of what the images should be.<br>Some rules:<br><ul><li>There should be a common theme/look to all images.</li><li>We need to make sure that we don&#39;t change or distort any group/compan logos, including our own.</li>
+<li>The texts need to be clear and visible.<br></li></ul></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Alright people, it&#39;s time to start the discussion on the new installer images (or more accurately, continue from last week&#39;s meeting).<br>A good jumping off point would be the texts.<br>We have 5 texts, but some people mostly me) are unhappy with them. I think that there should be more of an emphasis on the unique qualities of Mageia rather than pointing out all of the things that we do just like any other Linux distro.<br>
+The current texts are:<br><br>
+1. Mageia isn&#39;t just a Linux distribution: we&#39;re a community of<br>
+ users, developers and advocates from around the world.<br>
+<br>
+2. Free software means choice: KDE, GNOME, LXDE or other desktops;<br>
+ Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution<br>
+ for mail...<br>
+<br>
+3. Mageia covers your graphics, your video creation and editing needs<br>
+ with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...<br>
+<br>
+4. Mageia&#39;s Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up<br>
+ your hardware, software and more, all in one place.<br>
+<br>
+5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash,<br>
+ KMyMoney and others cover word processing, spreadsheets,<br>
+ presentations and finance.<br><br>So that means that I&#39;m happy with 1 and 4, but less happy with the other three.<br>Maybe if it was the other way around: 3 texts describing the uniqueness of Mageia and 2 describing other things. Or better yet, 4 or 5 texts describing the uniqueness of Mageia, but I know that that is less likely and less easy.<br>
+<br>Once we have settled on the texts (or even as we thrash them out) we should discuss ideas of what the images should be.<br>Some rules:<br><ul><li>There should be a common theme/look to all images.</li><li>We need to make sure that we don&#39;t change or distort any group/compan logos, including our own.</li>
+<li>The texts need to be clear and visible.<br></li></ul></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+1) The number of slides to be used<br></blockquote><div></div><div>5 <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+2) How long each slide displays for?<br></blockquote><div></div><div>Not up to us, that&#39;s the scripting. I think maybe a minute? <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+3) The word count/limit per slide<br></blockquote><div><br>Depends on 2.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+4) The subject/theme for each slide<br></blockquote><div><br>What we&#39;ve been trying to discuss. <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+5) Will content be localised for different languages?<br></blockquote><div><br>Probably not for Mga2, maybe 3. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+<br>
+After this we can work out more detailed text and any image(s) for each slide.<br></blockquote><div><br>We should start that NOW. <br><br>Also, why start a new thread for this topic?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+(Additionally, sound during install should have an option to mute - a &quot;ta da&quot; sound after installing in business environments may be inappropriate. Especially on multiple machines in a single environment. Just saying.)<br>
+
+______________________________<u></u>_________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/<u></u>mailman/listinfo/mageia-<u></u>marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+1) The number of slides to be used<br></blockquote><div></div><div>5 <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+2) How long each slide displays for?<br></blockquote><div></div><div>Not up to us, that&#39;s the scripting. I think maybe a minute? <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+3) The word count/limit per slide<br></blockquote><div><br>Depends on 2.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+4) The subject/theme for each slide<br></blockquote><div><br>What we&#39;ve been trying to discuss. <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+5) Will content be localised for different languages?<br></blockquote><div><br>Probably not for Mga2, maybe 3. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+<br>
+After this we can work out more detailed text and any image(s) for each slide.<br></blockquote><div><br>We should start that NOW. <br><br>Also, why start a new thread for this topic?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+(Additionally, sound during install should have an option to mute - a &quot;ta da&quot; sound after installing in business environments may be inappropriate. Especially on multiple machines in a single environment. Just saying.)<br>
+
+______________________________<u></u>_________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/<u></u>mailman/listinfo/mageia-<u></u>marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
+ On 28/03/12 01:15, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr"><br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
+ .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ 1) The number of slides to be used<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ <div>5 <br>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Cool. Just wanted to be clear.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ 2) How long each slide displays for?<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ <div>Not up to us, that's the scripting. I think maybe a
+ minute? <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ A very important priority to find this out. <br>
+ <br>
+ Will it be overall install time divided by 5 - or will the slides
+ loop?<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ 3) The word count/limit per slide<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ Depends on 2.<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ Finding this number should be really, really high on the To Do list!<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ 4) The subject/theme for each slide<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ What we've been trying to discuss. <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Indeed.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ 5) Will content be localised for different languages?<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ Probably not for Mga2, maybe 3. <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Good to know. Thanks! Saves a LOT of work.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ <br>
+ After this we can work out more detailed text and any
+ image(s) for each slide.<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ We should start that NOW. <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ With due respect, how can you paint a house until you build the
+ walls? You need structure. Hence getting a word limit and overall
+ topic for each slide first.<br>
+ <br>
+ You cannot just write words. No writer does this. You start with
+ structure - theme and word count.<br>
+ <br>
+ If the limit is 5 big words and 20 smaller words (for example) that
+ dictates everything we are trying to write. It is pointless to come
+ up with words without a proper format.<br>
+ <br>
+ So I'm establishing the order in which this process needs to be
+ tackled, if we are being professional. A free-for-all over words is
+ not efficient. <br>
+ <br>
+ If my help is not wanted, I'll step back quietly. Just let me know!<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <div><br>
+ Also, why start a new thread for this topic?<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I'm sorry if this is not correct procedure. I wanted a straight
+ answer to some points and I'm getting about 100 emails a day on
+ various Mageia subjects. So I did it for "clarity" as labelled in
+ the subject. This is a forked sub-subject about organising and I
+ wanted to treat it as such.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ (Additionally, sound during install should have an option to
+ mute - a "ta da" sound after installing in business
+ environments may be inappropriate. Especially on multiple
+ machines in a single environment. Just saying.)<br>
+ _______________________________________________<br>
+ Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
+ On 28/03/12 01:15, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr"><br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
+ .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ 1) The number of slides to be used<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ <div>5 <br>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Cool. Just wanted to be clear.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ 2) How long each slide displays for?<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ <div>Not up to us, that's the scripting. I think maybe a
+ minute? <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ A very important priority to find this out. <br>
+ <br>
+ Will it be overall install time divided by 5 - or will the slides
+ loop?<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ 3) The word count/limit per slide<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ Depends on 2.<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ Finding this number should be really, really high on the To Do list!<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ 4) The subject/theme for each slide<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ What we've been trying to discuss. <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Indeed.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ 5) Will content be localised for different languages?<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ Probably not for Mga2, maybe 3. <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Good to know. Thanks! Saves a LOT of work.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ <br>
+ After this we can work out more detailed text and any
+ image(s) for each slide.<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ We should start that NOW. <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ With due respect, how can you paint a house until you build the
+ walls? You need structure. Hence getting a word limit and overall
+ topic for each slide first.<br>
+ <br>
+ You cannot just write words. No writer does this. You start with
+ structure - theme and word count.<br>
+ <br>
+ If the limit is 5 big words and 20 smaller words (for example) that
+ dictates everything we are trying to write. It is pointless to come
+ up with words without a proper format.<br>
+ <br>
+ So I'm establishing the order in which this process needs to be
+ tackled, if we are being professional. A free-for-all over words is
+ not efficient. <br>
+ <br>
+ If my help is not wanted, I'll step back quietly. Just let me know!<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <div><br>
+ Also, why start a new thread for this topic?<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I'm sorry if this is not correct procedure. I wanted a straight
+ answer to some points and I'm getting about 100 emails a day on
+ various Mageia subjects. So I did it for "clarity" as labelled in
+ the subject. This is a forked sub-subject about organising and I
+ wanted to treat it as such.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ (Additionally, sound during install should have an option to
+ mute - a "ta da" sound after installing in business
+ environments may be inappropriate. Especially on multiple
+ machines in a single environment. Just saying.)<br>
+ _______________________________________________<br>
+ Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<div dir="ltr">Alright people, we have our texts (pretty much). Everything else is just a matter of wording. Let&#39;s start talking artwork.<br>I like the basic design and color scheme for Guala&#39;s earlier images. Let&#39;s start with that.<br>
+How about:<br>1. Community - something like a LAN party, a whole bunch of stylized people sitting at computers with the Mageia logo on them.<br>2. International - Stylized globe or map of the world with Mageia cauldrons in various different places, connected as if a network.<br>
+3. Open Source - Maybe some snapshots of running applications.<br>4. MCC - Snapshots of the MCC.<br>5. Community - Maybe back to the first image, maybe a variation on the same thing.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Le 29 mars 2012 04:38, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;<a href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com" target="_blank">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt; a crit :<br>
+
+
+<div>&gt; 1. Mageia isn&#39;t just a Linux distribution: we&#39;re a community of users, developers, and advocates from around the world. (18 words)<br>
+<br>
+</div>Positive form please: st like &quot;Mageia is more than&quot;<br>
+<div><br>
+&gt; 3. Mageia is Open Source - choose from thousands of app(lications)s. Office, Internet, Development, Education, and other types of software. (18 words)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Open Source for 3 not Free Software since we have the tainted repo for example.<br>
+<br>
+</div>_nonfree_ isn&#39;t free software, and it&#39;s not open source either. Tainted is free software/open source but potentially subject to patents in some significant places for us.<br>
+<div><div>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Alright people, we have our texts (pretty much). Everything else is just a matter of wording. Let&#39;s start talking artwork.<br>I like the basic design and color scheme for Guala&#39;s earlier images. Let&#39;s start with that.<br>
+How about:<br>1. Community - something like a LAN party, a whole bunch of stylized people sitting at computers with the Mageia logo on them.<br>2. International - Stylized globe or map of the world with Mageia cauldrons in various different places, connected as if a network.<br>
+3. Open Source - Maybe some snapshots of running applications.<br>4. MCC - Snapshots of the MCC.<br>5. Community - Maybe back to the first image, maybe a variation on the same thing.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Le 29 mars 2012 04:38, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;<a href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com" target="_blank">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt; a crit :<br>
+
+
+<div>&gt; 1. Mageia isn&#39;t just a Linux distribution: we&#39;re a community of users, developers, and advocates from around the world. (18 words)<br>
+<br>
+</div>Positive form please: st like &quot;Mageia is more than&quot;<br>
+<div><br>
+&gt; 3. Mageia is Open Source - choose from thousands of app(lications)s. Office, Internet, Development, Education, and other types of software. (18 words)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Open Source for 3 not Free Software since we have the tainted repo for example.<br>
+<br>
+</div>_nonfree_ isn&#39;t free software, and it&#39;s not open source either. Tainted is free software/open source but potentially subject to patents in some significant places for us.<br>
+<div><div>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Patricia Fraser <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+There&#39;s a piratepad in progress here:<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu" target="_blank">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</a><br></blockquote><div><br>But which one is it? I see at least three versions.... <br></div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+Please head over there and edit or comment. We&#39;d like to finalise these<br>
+texts within 24 hours, so the minute you have some time...<br>
+<br>
+Sorry if the connection is a bit iffy - the blocnotes at <a href="http://parinux.net" target="_blank">parinux.net</a><br>
+appears not to be available just now.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers!<br>
+<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Thu Mar 29 07:27:26 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+andromeda up 2 day(s), 49 hour(s), 35 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+</font></span><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Patricia Fraser <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+There&#39;s a piratepad in progress here:<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu" target="_blank">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</a><br></blockquote><div><br>But which one is it? I see at least three versions.... <br></div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+Please head over there and edit or comment. We&#39;d like to finalise these<br>
+texts within 24 hours, so the minute you have some time...<br>
+<br>
+Sorry if the connection is a bit iffy - the blocnotes at <a href="http://parinux.net" target="_blank">parinux.net</a><br>
+appears not to be available just now.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers!<br>
+<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Thu Mar 29 07:27:26 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+andromeda up 2 day(s), 49 hour(s), 35 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+</font></span><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Anne Nicolas <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Le 02/04/2012 10:32, Max Quarterpleen a crit :<br>
+<div class="im">&gt;<br>
+&gt; On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Anne nicolas &lt;<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a><br>
+</div><div class="im">&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 2012/4/2 Max Quarterpleen &lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a><br>
+</div>&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt;:<br>
+<div class="im">&gt;<br>
+&gt; Thanks for the very quick answer<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Installer images: Sad to say that little progress has been made.<br>
+&gt; We have<br>
+&gt; &gt; some ideas, but no feedback and no actual images. Yet.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; If needed let&#39;s have a meeting. This is going nowhere even if you all<br>
+&gt; have good ideas. We need to get a result now<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;m going to see if we can schedule an impromptu meeting before<br>
+&gt; Wednesday to discuss this and start work done, and then another on<br>
+&gt; Wednesday.<br>
+<br>
+</div>After thinking about all this, we will stop here work on the installer<br>
+images. Time is too short and discussion is going nowhere for now.<br>
+Having one more meeting would not go anywhere. We had a planning and we<br>
+are already very far from it. I will use screenshots for it and we will<br>
+have to review together this kind of process to make it work for Mageia 3.<br></blockquote><div></div><div>*sigh*<br>You&#39;re right. I sort of wish we had gotten our act together sooner. Oh well, live and learn. We&#39;ll do better for Mga3.<br>
+<br>Also, about my last comment about the logo in the background. I think I should clarify: the logo as it is is both visible and unobtrusive. It clearly brands the image as part of Mageia and doesn&#39;t attract too much attention to itself, allowing people to view the image unencumbered.<br>
+My question was more about the use of the shadow behind the logo (which helps it stand out but not so much that it pokes you in the eye). Is that OK as far as not changing the logo is concerned?<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
+<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Backgrounds: We were discussing where to put the Mageia logo in the<br>
+&gt; &gt; background images and have nearly reached a consensus. Schultz has<br>
+&gt; already<br>
+&gt; &gt; made several images with different resolutions. As soon as we know<br>
+&gt; where and<br>
+&gt; &gt; how to put the logo we will.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Please go on. RC is planned in 1 week and all artwork should be<br>
+&gt; integrated<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; So far it looks like people like the logo with a drop shadow in the<br>
+&gt; bottom-right corner of the screen. Anne, please have a look and make<br>
+&gt; sure that this does not violate the logo rules:<br>
+&gt; <a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?uo3yah8myxpa1j5" target="_blank">http://www.mediafire.com/?uo3yah8myxpa1j5</a><br>
+&gt; If that is OK we&#39;ll start putting the logo in the different resolutions,<br>
+&gt; making sure that it fits nicely in the KDE environment (GNOME and XFCE<br>
+&gt; are less of a problem in this regard).<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Boot: Schultz said he would be working on that, I don&#39;t know<br>
+&gt; exactly how<br>
+&gt; &gt; much progress he has made.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Schultz, any input on this ?<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+</div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">--<br>
+<a href="http://mageia.org" target="_blank">http://mageia.org</a><br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Anne Nicolas <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Le 02/04/2012 10:32, Max Quarterpleen a crit :<br>
+<div class="im">&gt;<br>
+&gt; On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Anne nicolas &lt;<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a><br>
+</div><div class="im">&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 2012/4/2 Max Quarterpleen &lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a><br>
+</div>&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt;:<br>
+<div class="im">&gt;<br>
+&gt; Thanks for the very quick answer<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Installer images: Sad to say that little progress has been made.<br>
+&gt; We have<br>
+&gt; &gt; some ideas, but no feedback and no actual images. Yet.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; If needed let&#39;s have a meeting. This is going nowhere even if you all<br>
+&gt; have good ideas. We need to get a result now<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;m going to see if we can schedule an impromptu meeting before<br>
+&gt; Wednesday to discuss this and start work done, and then another on<br>
+&gt; Wednesday.<br>
+<br>
+</div>After thinking about all this, we will stop here work on the installer<br>
+images. Time is too short and discussion is going nowhere for now.<br>
+Having one more meeting would not go anywhere. We had a planning and we<br>
+are already very far from it. I will use screenshots for it and we will<br>
+have to review together this kind of process to make it work for Mageia 3.<br></blockquote><div></div><div>*sigh*<br>You&#39;re right. I sort of wish we had gotten our act together sooner. Oh well, live and learn. We&#39;ll do better for Mga3.<br>
+<br>Also, about my last comment about the logo in the background. I think I should clarify: the logo as it is is both visible and unobtrusive. It clearly brands the image as part of Mageia and doesn&#39;t attract too much attention to itself, allowing people to view the image unencumbered.<br>
+My question was more about the use of the shadow behind the logo (which helps it stand out but not so much that it pokes you in the eye). Is that OK as far as not changing the logo is concerned?<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
+<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Backgrounds: We were discussing where to put the Mageia logo in the<br>
+&gt; &gt; background images and have nearly reached a consensus. Schultz has<br>
+&gt; already<br>
+&gt; &gt; made several images with different resolutions. As soon as we know<br>
+&gt; where and<br>
+&gt; &gt; how to put the logo we will.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Please go on. RC is planned in 1 week and all artwork should be<br>
+&gt; integrated<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; So far it looks like people like the logo with a drop shadow in the<br>
+&gt; bottom-right corner of the screen. Anne, please have a look and make<br>
+&gt; sure that this does not violate the logo rules:<br>
+&gt; <a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?uo3yah8myxpa1j5" target="_blank">http://www.mediafire.com/?uo3yah8myxpa1j5</a><br>
+&gt; If that is OK we&#39;ll start putting the logo in the different resolutions,<br>
+&gt; making sure that it fits nicely in the KDE environment (GNOME and XFCE<br>
+&gt; are less of a problem in this regard).<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Boot: Schultz said he would be working on that, I don&#39;t know<br>
+&gt; exactly how<br>
+&gt; &gt; much progress he has made.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Schultz, any input on this ?<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+</div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">--<br>
+<a href="http://mageia.org" target="_blank">http://mageia.org</a><br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+I do have another question. Perhaps it is simply another symptom of the<br>
+ten or so posts by Josh that have served to illustrate his frustration<br>
+with an ineffectual bureaucracy in obtaining a single uid/pwd<br>
+combination to manage a resource that belongs to MarCom in the first place:<br>
+<br>
+Q: Why, when we have our own infrastructure, is the artwork team posting<br>
+development work to <a href="http://imgur.com" target="_blank">imgur.com</a>?<br>
+<br>
+I would think that having all three images posted on a single page on<br>
+our wiki or a gallery under our domain would be preferable.<br></blockquote><div><br>At the risk of derailing the thread: there have been many, many, <i>many</i> requests of the sysadmin and webadmin teams to provide artwork (and probably marcom too) with server-side storage. That has yet to happen, and probably won&#39;t happen before Mga2. After that we can renew our begging. <br>
+</div></div></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+I do have another question. Perhaps it is simply another symptom of the<br>
+ten or so posts by Josh that have served to illustrate his frustration<br>
+with an ineffectual bureaucracy in obtaining a single uid/pwd<br>
+combination to manage a resource that belongs to MarCom in the first place:<br>
+<br>
+Q: Why, when we have our own infrastructure, is the artwork team posting<br>
+development work to <a href="http://imgur.com" target="_blank">imgur.com</a>?<br>
+<br>
+I would think that having all three images posted on a single page on<br>
+our wiki or a gallery under our domain would be preferable.<br></blockquote><div><br>At the risk of derailing the thread: there have been many, many, <i>many</i> requests of the sysadmin and webadmin teams to provide artwork (and probably marcom too) with server-side storage. That has yet to happen, and probably won&#39;t happen before Mga2. After that we can renew our begging. <br>
+</div></div></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Donald Stewart <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com">watersnowrock@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+either greyscale or full white for me.<br>
+<br>
+Once the vote is gone, can someone mail me the svg or png of the chosen logo.<br></blockquote><div><br>An xcf with the proper layers.<br>I wasn&#39;t happy with the shadows in Inkscape, so I used Gimp.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Donald Stewart <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com">watersnowrock@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+either greyscale or full white for me.<br>
+<br>
+Once the vote is gone, can someone mail me the svg or png of the chosen logo.<br></blockquote><div><br>An xcf with the proper layers.<br>I wasn&#39;t happy with the shadows in Inkscape, so I used Gimp.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Hi everybody.<br>We&#39;ve pretty much all agreed (or at least, everybody who has bothered to respond agreed) that we are going to go with the logo in the bottom right corner with the more prominent shadow, the drop-shadow.<br>
+
+Now, some people thought that it still isn&#39;t very visible. I personally think it looks great, but I am only one person.<br>So, I mad two more mockups: a greyscale logo and a white logo. (I tried a black logo and it was just awful).<br>
+Grayscale: <a href="http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg</a><br>White: <a href="http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg</a><br>Natural: <a href="http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg</a><br>
+Please disregard JPEG artifacts, we will distribute the images as PNGs.<br>Please respond with your thoughts.<br>Again, the final position of the logo will depend on the resolution of the image so that it won&#39;t interfere with the KDE taskbar.<br>
+Max<br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Hi everybody.<br>We&#39;ve pretty much all agreed (or at least, everybody who has bothered to respond agreed) that we are going to go with the logo in the bottom right corner with the more prominent shadow, the drop-shadow.<br>
+
+Now, some people thought that it still isn&#39;t very visible. I personally think it looks great, but I am only one person.<br>So, I mad two more mockups: a greyscale logo and a white logo. (I tried a black logo and it was just awful).<br>
+Grayscale: <a href="http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg</a><br>White: <a href="http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg</a><br>Natural: <a href="http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg</a><br>
+Please disregard JPEG artifacts, we will distribute the images as PNGs.<br>Please respond with your thoughts.<br>Again, the final position of the logo will depend on the resolution of the image so that it won&#39;t interfere with the KDE taskbar.<br>
+Max<br></div>
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+I&#39;m sure Seb could explain better.<br></div>
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+I&#39;m sure Seb could explain better.<br></div>
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+<p>I won&#39; t make it tonight. At the time of tge meeting i will most likely be on the road...</p>
+<p>Happy easter,<br>
+Oliver</p>
+<div class="gmail_quote">On 09.04.2012 13:58, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+I had promised that we&#39;d have a first draft of the release texts ready<br>
+for inspection at this meeting, but: we&#39;re not there yet.<br>
+<br>
+For the website, Romain will be updating marcom on the structure this<br>
+week, when we can get to work on that. For the blog post - too easy, we<br>
+can put that together very quickly. The only other one which might take<br>
+a bit of work is the press release, which I&#39;m hoping we can get some<br>
+input from council members as to what people would like to see in the<br>
+release - then it will take shape very quickly.<br>
+<br>
+So, see you at the meeting, if everyone&#39;s not stunned with chocolate...<br>
+<br>
+Cheers!<br>
+<br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Mon Apr  9 21:54:53 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+andromeda up 13 hour(s), 41 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div>
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+<p>I won&#39; t make it tonight. At the time of tge meeting i will most likely be on the road...</p>
+<p>Happy easter,<br>
+Oliver</p>
+<div class="gmail_quote">On 09.04.2012 13:58, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+I had promised that we&#39;d have a first draft of the release texts ready<br>
+for inspection at this meeting, but: we&#39;re not there yet.<br>
+<br>
+For the website, Romain will be updating marcom on the structure this<br>
+week, when we can get to work on that. For the blog post - too easy, we<br>
+can put that together very quickly. The only other one which might take<br>
+a bit of work is the press release, which I&#39;m hoping we can get some<br>
+input from council members as to what people would like to see in the<br>
+release - then it will take shape very quickly.<br>
+<br>
+So, see you at the meeting, if everyone&#39;s not stunned with chocolate...<br>
+<br>
+Cheers!<br>
+<br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Mon Apr  9 21:54:53 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+andromeda up 13 hour(s), 41 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div>
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+<p>I&#39;ll have another look tonight, although I don&#39;t think I have too much more to add.</p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 16 May 2012 14:44, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+Please check both the Etherpad <a href="http://bn.parinux.org/p/5VmTPqQ5BQ" target="_blank">http://bn.parinux.org/p/5VmTPqQ5BQ</a> and<br>
+the Sandbox <a href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_sandbox" target="_blank">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_sandbox</a>.<br>
+<br>
+Proposed texts are in place for the blog post and for the press<br>
+release; texts for the website will follow.<br>
+<br>
+These texts must go to i18n tomorrow - please check and edit/add<br>
+suggestions on the Etherpad, leaving the current version on the<br>
+Sandbox.<br>
+<br>
+PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THE SANDBOX - it&#39;s our check version in case we<br>
+need to revert anything changed on the Etherpad.<br>
+<br>
+I&#39;d really appreciate any time you can give to help - it needs many eyes on it<br>
+to make sure it&#39;s as good as it can be.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Wed May 16 23:40:10 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+hermes up 9 hour(s), 50 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+</font><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></p>
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+<p>I&#39;ll have another look tonight, although I don&#39;t think I have too much more to add.</p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 16 May 2012 14:44, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+Please check both the Etherpad <a href="http://bn.parinux.org/p/5VmTPqQ5BQ" target="_blank">http://bn.parinux.org/p/5VmTPqQ5BQ</a> and<br>
+the Sandbox <a href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_sandbox" target="_blank">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_sandbox</a>.<br>
+<br>
+Proposed texts are in place for the blog post and for the press<br>
+release; texts for the website will follow.<br>
+<br>
+These texts must go to i18n tomorrow - please check and edit/add<br>
+suggestions on the Etherpad, leaving the current version on the<br>
+Sandbox.<br>
+<br>
+PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THE SANDBOX - it&#39;s our check version in case we<br>
+need to revert anything changed on the Etherpad.<br>
+<br>
+I&#39;d really appreciate any time you can give to help - it needs many eyes on it<br>
+to make sure it&#39;s as good as it can be.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Wed May 16 23:40:10 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+hermes up 9 hour(s), 50 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+</font><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></p>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Max Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rda@mageia.org" target="_blank">rda@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi!<br>
+<div><br>
+On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; I think it&#39;s unlikely that we&#39;ll get it undeleted, but we can try for a<br>
+&gt; new Mageia page; I&#39;m on it.<br>
+<br>
+</div>&gt;From the discussion and deletion decision, recreating it is completely<br>
+open. Funny things is, it&#39;s been 3 votes for deletion, 2 against, so<br>
+it&#39;s not like it&#39;s a big deal either, it&#39;s been only one person needed<br>
+to make it go - and Mageia pages in other languages are not much<br>
+different either.<br>
+<br>
+But, for the new page, sources will be needed to sustain each stance,<br>
+and - I&#39;m not sure how this can be included, maybe as<br>
+sources/references actually - hints to existing coverage (relevant,<br>
+independant articles and reviews) will be needed.<br></blockquote></div><div><br>Yeah. I don&#39;t think we can quote our own site as a good source.<br>The &#39;about&#39; Mageia on Distrowatch is pretty OK.<br>Here are a couple of articles I remember seeing, there are probably more.<br>
+
+<a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html" target="_blank">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html</a><br><a href="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/" target="_blank">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</a><br>
+</div></div></div></blockquote><div></div><div>A quick Google search also turned up these gems:<br><a href="http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1">http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1</a><br>
+<a href="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html">http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html</a><br><br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div></div><br></div>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Max Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rda@mageia.org" target="_blank">rda@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi!<br>
+<div><br>
+On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; I think it&#39;s unlikely that we&#39;ll get it undeleted, but we can try for a<br>
+&gt; new Mageia page; I&#39;m on it.<br>
+<br>
+</div>&gt;From the discussion and deletion decision, recreating it is completely<br>
+open. Funny things is, it&#39;s been 3 votes for deletion, 2 against, so<br>
+it&#39;s not like it&#39;s a big deal either, it&#39;s been only one person needed<br>
+to make it go - and Mageia pages in other languages are not much<br>
+different either.<br>
+<br>
+But, for the new page, sources will be needed to sustain each stance,<br>
+and - I&#39;m not sure how this can be included, maybe as<br>
+sources/references actually - hints to existing coverage (relevant,<br>
+independant articles and reviews) will be needed.<br></blockquote></div><div><br>Yeah. I don&#39;t think we can quote our own site as a good source.<br>The &#39;about&#39; Mageia on Distrowatch is pretty OK.<br>Here are a couple of articles I remember seeing, there are probably more.<br>
+
+<a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html" target="_blank">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html</a><br><a href="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/" target="_blank">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</a><br>
+</div></div></div></blockquote><div></div><div>A quick Google search also turned up these gems:<br><a href="http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1">http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1</a><br>
+<a href="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html">http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html</a><br><br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div></div><br></div>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Hi guys<br>I saw this post on the forum:<br><a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428</a><br>It looks like while we weren&#39;t looking someone decided that there aren&#39;t enough external resources devoted to Mageia to warrant a full page on Wikipedia.<br>
+Now I know that that isn&#39;t true. There have been many articles, blog posts and discussions about Mageia, some of them even on reliable and respected websites.<br>I think that the Marcom team should collect a list of all Mageia-related articles and blog posts. Many of them have been referenced on the forum. Then take this list and wave it in the faces of the Wikipedia Powers That Be and ask nicely, then demand, that they undelete the page.<br>
+Seriously. Right before we release a new version is not a good time for our Wikipedia page to be deleted.<br>Max<br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Hi guys<br>I saw this post on the forum:<br><a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428</a><br>It looks like while we weren&#39;t looking someone decided that there aren&#39;t enough external resources devoted to Mageia to warrant a full page on Wikipedia.<br>
+Now I know that that isn&#39;t true. There have been many articles, blog posts and discussions about Mageia, some of them even on reliable and respected websites.<br>I think that the Marcom team should collect a list of all Mageia-related articles and blog posts. Many of them have been referenced on the forum. Then take this list and wave it in the faces of the Wikipedia Powers That Be and ask nicely, then demand, that they undelete the page.<br>
+Seriously. Right before we release a new version is not a good time for our Wikipedia page to be deleted.<br>Max<br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rda@mageia.org" target="_blank">rda@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi!<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; I think it&#39;s unlikely that we&#39;ll get it undeleted, but we can try for a<br>
+&gt; new Mageia page; I&#39;m on it.<br>
+<br>
+</div>&gt;From the discussion and deletion decision, recreating it is completely<br>
+open. Funny things is, it&#39;s been 3 votes for deletion, 2 against, so<br>
+it&#39;s not like it&#39;s a big deal either, it&#39;s been only one person needed<br>
+to make it go - and Mageia pages in other languages are not much<br>
+different either.<br>
+<br>
+But, for the new page, sources will be needed to sustain each stance,<br>
+and - I&#39;m not sure how this can be included, maybe as<br>
+sources/references actually - hints to existing coverage (relevant,<br>
+independant articles and reviews) will be needed.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yeah. I don&#39;t think we can quote our own site as a good source.<br>The &#39;about&#39; Mageia on Distrowatch is pretty OK.<br>Here are a couple of articles I remember seeing, there are probably more.<br>
+<a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html</a><br><a href="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</a><br>
+<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rda@mageia.org" target="_blank">rda@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi!<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; I think it&#39;s unlikely that we&#39;ll get it undeleted, but we can try for a<br>
+&gt; new Mageia page; I&#39;m on it.<br>
+<br>
+</div>&gt;From the discussion and deletion decision, recreating it is completely<br>
+open. Funny things is, it&#39;s been 3 votes for deletion, 2 against, so<br>
+it&#39;s not like it&#39;s a big deal either, it&#39;s been only one person needed<br>
+to make it go - and Mageia pages in other languages are not much<br>
+different either.<br>
+<br>
+But, for the new page, sources will be needed to sustain each stance,<br>
+and - I&#39;m not sure how this can be included, maybe as<br>
+sources/references actually - hints to existing coverage (relevant,<br>
+independant articles and reviews) will be needed.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yeah. I don&#39;t think we can quote our own site as a good source.<br>The &#39;about&#39; Mageia on Distrowatch is pretty OK.<br>Here are a couple of articles I remember seeing, there are probably more.<br>
+<a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html</a><br><a href="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</a><br>
+<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"><span style lang="EN-US">I created a
+phrase in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the spirit of the Mageia. It
+would be a type of a marketing of <span style></span>the distro
+like a saying. Generally, companies have saying or mottos like this: satisfaction
+guaranteed or money back. Its a phrase that its the company meaning in few
+words.The Merrian Webster dictionary tranlates the motto as the following
+meaning: <span class="ssens">a sentence, phrase, or word inscribed on something
+as appropriate to or indicative of its character or use. The prase, motto or
+saying to the Mageia is the following:</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="ssens"><b><i><span style lang="EN-US">Mageia is the present and the future.</span></i></b></span><span class="ssens"><span style lang="EN-US"> The users at the
+facebook liked this motto. It means Mageia is the present because of its
+quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of distrowatch (at 7<sup>th</sup>.
+Position now). The other distos at start of mageia didnt believe it.They
+desdained Mageia. The future be cause Mageia is a community, an organization
+and came to stay with us and offer the best in the future.Thus, if you choose
+it, It could be included for the Mageia 3 as a signal.Its just a suggestion. I
+hope you get me.</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="ssens"><span style lang="EN-US">Cheers.</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="ssens"><span style lang="EN-US">Otto S from Mageia Brazil.</span></span><span style lang="EN-US"></span></p>
+
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+
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"><span style lang="EN-US">I created a
+phrase in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the spirit of the Mageia. It
+would be a type of a marketing of <span style></span>the distro
+like a saying. Generally, companies have saying or mottos like this: satisfaction
+guaranteed or money back. Its a phrase that its the company meaning in few
+words.The Merrian Webster dictionary tranlates the motto as the following
+meaning: <span class="ssens">a sentence, phrase, or word inscribed on something
+as appropriate to or indicative of its character or use. The prase, motto or
+saying to the Mageia is the following:</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="ssens"><b><i><span style lang="EN-US">Mageia is the present and the future.</span></i></b></span><span class="ssens"><span style lang="EN-US"> The users at the
+facebook liked this motto. It means Mageia is the present because of its
+quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of distrowatch (at 7<sup>th</sup>.
+Position now). The other distos at start of mageia didnt believe it.They
+desdained Mageia. The future be cause Mageia is a community, an organization
+and came to stay with us and offer the best in the future.Thus, if you choose
+it, It could be included for the Mageia 3 as a signal.Its just a suggestion. I
+hope you get me.</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="ssens"><span style lang="EN-US">Cheers.</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="ssens"><span style lang="EN-US">Otto S from Mageia Brazil.</span></span><span style lang="EN-US"></span></p>
+
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+Hi Patricia Fraser!I have already placed on the Mageia Forum at <a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476</a><br>Could you post there to start users posting about this inquiry ?<br>
+Besides, I put at bugzilla at <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032</a> (bug # 6032) but Manuel Hiebel pointed me out to ask at Mageia Marketing But I haven&#39;t put at the mageia irch channel yet. Which channel should I ask about it? #mageia (main project); #mageia-board ; #mageia-council ? Or another specific Mageia channel? I appreciated your prompt reply. I&#39;m looking forward to hear your hints.<br>
+Cheers.<br>Otto S.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/5/24 Patricia Fraser <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi Otto,<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt; I created a phrase in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the<br>
+&gt; spirit of the Mageia. It would be a type of a marketing of the<br>
+&gt; distro like a saying. Generally, companies have saying or mottos like<br>
+&gt; this: satisfaction guaranteed or money back. Its a phrase that<br>
+&gt; its the company meaning in few words.The Merrian Webster dictionary<br>
+&gt; tranlates the motto as the following meaning: a sentence, phrase, or<br>
+&gt; word inscribed on something as appropriate to or indicative of its<br>
+&gt; character or use. The prase, motto or saying to the Mageia is the<br>
+&gt; following:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+</div>&gt; *Mageia is the present and the future.* The users at the facebook<br>
+<div class="im">&gt; liked this motto. It means Mageia is the present because of its<br>
+&gt; quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of<br>
+&gt; distrowatch (at 7th. Position now). The other distos at start of<br>
+&gt; mageia didnt believe it.They desdained Mageia. The future be cause<br>
+&gt; Mageia is a community, an organization and came to stay with us and<br>
+&gt; offer the best in the future.Thus, if you choose it, It could be<br>
+&gt; included for the Mageia 3 as a signal.Its just a suggestion. I hope<br>
+&gt; you get me.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+</div>Thanks for this!<br>
+<br>
+Have you asked the folks on the mageia-discuss list how they like it?<br>
+That&#39;s where a lot of the community hangs out; you could also ask on<br>
+IRC and the forums.<br>
+<br>
+If you get a lot of positive feedback within the community, then we can<br>
+put it to the Council for approval as a slogan.<br>
+<br>
+We&#39;ll all look forward to hearing how you get on!<br>
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607<br>
+Fri May 25 07:38:18 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 <a href="http://counter.li.org" target="_blank">counter.li.org</a><br>
+hermes up 0 hour(s), 40 min.<br>
+Mageia release 2 (Official) for x86_64<br>
+kernel 3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2<br>
+</font></span><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+Hi Patricia Fraser!I have already placed on the Mageia Forum at <a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476</a><br>Could you post there to start users posting about this inquiry ?<br>
+Besides, I put at bugzilla at <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032</a> (bug # 6032) but Manuel Hiebel pointed me out to ask at Mageia Marketing But I haven&#39;t put at the mageia irch channel yet. Which channel should I ask about it? #mageia (main project); #mageia-board ; #mageia-council ? Or another specific Mageia channel? I appreciated your prompt reply. I&#39;m looking forward to hear your hints.<br>
+Cheers.<br>Otto S.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/5/24 Patricia Fraser <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi Otto,<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt; I created a phrase in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the<br>
+&gt; spirit of the Mageia. It would be a type of a marketing of the<br>
+&gt; distro like a saying. Generally, companies have saying or mottos like<br>
+&gt; this: satisfaction guaranteed or money back. Its a phrase that<br>
+&gt; its the company meaning in few words.The Merrian Webster dictionary<br>
+&gt; tranlates the motto as the following meaning: a sentence, phrase, or<br>
+&gt; word inscribed on something as appropriate to or indicative of its<br>
+&gt; character or use. The prase, motto or saying to the Mageia is the<br>
+&gt; following:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+</div>&gt; *Mageia is the present and the future.* The users at the facebook<br>
+<div class="im">&gt; liked this motto. It means Mageia is the present because of its<br>
+&gt; quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of<br>
+&gt; distrowatch (at 7th. Position now). The other distos at start of<br>
+&gt; mageia didnt believe it.They desdained Mageia. The future be cause<br>
+&gt; Mageia is a community, an organization and came to stay with us and<br>
+&gt; offer the best in the future.Thus, if you choose it, It could be<br>
+&gt; included for the Mageia 3 as a signal.Its just a suggestion. I hope<br>
+&gt; you get me.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+</div>Thanks for this!<br>
+<br>
+Have you asked the folks on the mageia-discuss list how they like it?<br>
+That&#39;s where a lot of the community hangs out; you could also ask on<br>
+IRC and the forums.<br>
+<br>
+If you get a lot of positive feedback within the community, then we can<br>
+put it to the Council for approval as a slogan.<br>
+<br>
+We&#39;ll all look forward to hearing how you get on!<br>
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607<br>
+Fri May 25 07:38:18 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 <a href="http://counter.li.org" target="_blank">counter.li.org</a><br>
+hermes up 0 hour(s), 40 min.<br>
+Mageia release 2 (Official) for x86_64<br>
+kernel 3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2<br>
+</font></span><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
+ <meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html;
+ charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm">Hi Rupert<br>
+ <br>
+ Welcome to the team,
+ and as I told you earlier on IRC when we were chatting, that I
+ would
+ reply to your email.&nbsp; Here it is although a bit later than it
+ was going to be, but that doesn't matter.<br>
+ <br>
+ Patricia Fraser /
+ Trish our team leader, will probably welcome you more properly
+ :).<br>
+ <br>
+ As for contributing feel free to do so when you have the
+ time :).<br>
+ <br>
+ I know you have mainly joined recently to keep an eye
+ on the mailing list, but really now you are a member
+ of the Mageia marketing and communications team, as of earlier on
+ today :).<br>
+ <br>
+ You also talked to Max earlier on IRC so you already
+ know something about the meetings and when they are.&nbsp; However we
+ have a logs site for Mageia meetings: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meetbot.mageia.org">http://meetbot.mageia.org</a><br>
+ <br>
+ From
+ Sebastian</p>
+ <title></title>
+ <meta name="GENERATOR" content="LibreOffice 3.4 (Linux)">
+ <style type="text/css">
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+ <meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html;
+ charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm">Hi Rupert<br>
+ <br>
+ Welcome to the team,
+ and as I told you earlier on IRC when we were chatting, that I
+ would
+ reply to your email.&nbsp; Here it is although a bit later than it
+ was going to be, but that doesn't matter.<br>
+ <br>
+ Patricia Fraser /
+ Trish our team leader, will probably welcome you more properly
+ :).<br>
+ <br>
+ As for contributing feel free to do so when you have the
+ time :).<br>
+ <br>
+ I know you have mainly joined recently to keep an eye
+ on the mailing list, but really now you are a member
+ of the Mageia marketing and communications team, as of earlier on
+ today :).<br>
+ <br>
+ You also talked to Max earlier on IRC so you already
+ know something about the meetings and when they are.&nbsp; However we
+ have a logs site for Mageia meetings: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meetbot.mageia.org">http://meetbot.mageia.org</a><br>
+ <br>
+ From
+ Sebastian</p>
+ <title></title>
+ <meta name="GENERATOR" content="LibreOffice 3.4 (Linux)">
+ <style type="text/css">
+ <!--
+ @page { margin: 2cm }
+ P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm }
+ -->
+ </style>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Otto, </p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><a name="result_box"></a>Very good your initiative to discuss the creation of a slogan for the Mageia. I think it is necessary to discuss it. Congratulations for your idea.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Macxi </p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Em qui 24 mai 2012, às 20:24:49, Otto escreveu:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Hi Patricia Fraser!I have already placed on the Mageia Forum at</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Could you post there to start users posting about this inquiry ?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Besides, I put at bugzilla at</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032(bug # 6032) but Manuel</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Hiebel pointed me out to ask at Mageia Marketing</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; But I haven't put at the mageia irch channel yet. Which channel should I</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; ask about it? #mageia (main project); #mageia-board ; #mageia-council ? Or</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; another specific Mageia channel? I appreciated your prompt reply. I'm</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; looking forward to hear your hints.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Cheers.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Otto Sá.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; 2012/5/24 Patricia Fraser &lt;trish@thefrasers.org&gt;</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Hi Otto,</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; I created a phrase in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; spirit of the Mageia. It would be a type of a “marketing” of the</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; distro like a saying. Generally, companies have saying or mottos like</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; this: “satisfaction guaranteed or money back”. It’s a phrase that</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; it’s the company meaning in few words.The Merrian Webster’ dictionary</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; tranlates the motto as the following meaning: a sentence, phrase, or</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; word inscribed on something as appropriate to or indicative of its</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; character or use. The prase, motto or saying to the Mageia is the</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; following:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; *“Mageia is the present and the future.”* The users at the facebook</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; liked this motto. It means Mageia is the present because of its</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; distrowatch (at 7th. Position now). The other distos at start of</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; mageia didn’t believe it.They desdained Mageia. The future be cause</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia is a community, an organization and came to stay with us and</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; offer the best in the future.Thus, if you choose it, It could be</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; included for the Mageia 3 as a signal.It’s just a suggestion. I hope</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; you get me.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Thanks for this!</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Have you asked the folks on the mageia-discuss list how they like it?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; That's where a lot of the community hangs out; you could also ask on</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; IRC and the forums.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; If you get a lot of positive feedback within the community, then we can</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; put it to the Council for approval as a slogan.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; We'll all look forward to hearing how you get on!</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Cheers,</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; --</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Fri May 25 07:38:18 EST 2012</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 counter.li.org</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; hermes up 0 hour(s), 40 min.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia release 2 (Official) for x86_64</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; kernel 3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Otto, </p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><a name="result_box"></a>Very good your initiative to discuss the creation of a slogan for the Mageia. I think it is necessary to discuss it. Congratulations for your idea.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Macxi </p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Em qui 24 mai 2012, às 20:24:49, Otto escreveu:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Hi Patricia Fraser!I have already placed on the Mageia Forum at</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Could you post there to start users posting about this inquiry ?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Besides, I put at bugzilla at</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032(bug # 6032) but Manuel</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Hiebel pointed me out to ask at Mageia Marketing</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; But I haven't put at the mageia irch channel yet. Which channel should I</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; ask about it? #mageia (main project); #mageia-board ; #mageia-council ? Or</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; another specific Mageia channel? I appreciated your prompt reply. I'm</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; looking forward to hear your hints.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Cheers.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Otto Sá.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; 2012/5/24 Patricia Fraser &lt;trish@thefrasers.org&gt;</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Hi Otto,</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; I created a phrase in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; spirit of the Mageia. It would be a type of a “marketing” of the</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; distro like a saying. Generally, companies have saying or mottos like</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; this: “satisfaction guaranteed or money back”. It’s a phrase that</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; it’s the company meaning in few words.The Merrian Webster’ dictionary</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; tranlates the motto as the following meaning: a sentence, phrase, or</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; word inscribed on something as appropriate to or indicative of its</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; character or use. The prase, motto or saying to the Mageia is the</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; following:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; *“Mageia is the present and the future.”* The users at the facebook</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; liked this motto. It means Mageia is the present because of its</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; distrowatch (at 7th. Position now). The other distos at start of</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; mageia didn’t believe it.They desdained Mageia. The future be cause</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia is a community, an organization and came to stay with us and</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; offer the best in the future.Thus, if you choose it, It could be</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; included for the Mageia 3 as a signal.It’s just a suggestion. I hope</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; you get me.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Thanks for this!</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Have you asked the folks on the mageia-discuss list how they like it?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; That's where a lot of the community hangs out; you could also ask on</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; IRC and the forums.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; If you get a lot of positive feedback within the community, then we can</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; put it to the Council for approval as a slogan.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; We'll all look forward to hearing how you get on!</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Cheers,</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; --</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Fri May 25 07:38:18 EST 2012</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 counter.li.org</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; hermes up 0 hour(s), 40 min.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia release 2 (Official) for x86_64</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; kernel 3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</p>
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+<p>Hey,</p>
+<p>I was going to add stuff, but being on my phone is hard. <br>
+I would say the giving more structure to the process and location of documents will help, but having web space will help.</p>
+<p>Also, adding hard deadlines/gaunt charts to assignments<br>
+to visualize where we need to be might stop the issues of missed deadlines. </p>
+<p>Well I hope that the meeting goes Well</p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 4 Jun 2012 13:23, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+Remember this? Well, it needs to be completed before the council<br>
+meeting tonight.<br>
+<p><font color="#500050"><br>&gt; Hi folks,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; As we did after Mageia 1, all teams are doing a post-mortem review of<br>&gt; their acti...</font></p>Being fairly certain that nothing would happen (as is the usual way<br>
+
+
+
+
+here in marcom), I&#39;ve sent the following to the council list. I&#39;m<br>
+pretty disappointed that it was necessary...<br>
+<br>
+&gt; Marcom post-mortem: the vanishing team. I&#39;m putting this here, because<br>
+&gt; I haven&#39;t had any responses at all from anyone on the team, either on<br>
+&gt; the wiki or on the mailing list. For all intents and purposes, marcom<br>
+&gt; is me, and nobody else.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Post-mortem: marcom is unsustainable, the way it is, and I&#39;m not<br>
+&gt; really able to promise that I can do it all myself - I&#39;ve got a fair<br>
+&gt; bit on my plate at the moment, and I can&#39;t really do it justice.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;d be very grateful for any suggestions, input, warm bodies...<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; (Also, I&#39;d like to dump marcom and move to get an accessibility team<br>
+&gt; going, but that&#39;s another story, and I won&#39;t do it without at least<br>
+&gt; trying to get something happening in marcom.)<br>
+<p><font color="#500050"><br><br>-- <br>Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607</font></p>Mon Jun 4 21:13:33 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 <a href="http://counter.li.org" target="_blank">counter.li.org</a><br>
+hermes up 13 hour(s), 21 min.<br>
+<p><font color="#500050">Mageia release 2 (Official) for x86_64<br>kernel 3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2</font></p><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></p>
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+<p>Hey,</p>
+<p>I was going to add stuff, but being on my phone is hard. <br>
+I would say the giving more structure to the process and location of documents will help, but having web space will help.</p>
+<p>Also, adding hard deadlines/gaunt charts to assignments<br>
+to visualize where we need to be might stop the issues of missed deadlines. </p>
+<p>Well I hope that the meeting goes Well</p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 4 Jun 2012 13:23, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+Remember this? Well, it needs to be completed before the council<br>
+meeting tonight.<br>
+<p><font color="#500050"><br>&gt; Hi folks,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; As we did after Mageia 1, all teams are doing a post-mortem review of<br>&gt; their acti...</font></p>Being fairly certain that nothing would happen (as is the usual way<br>
+
+
+
+
+here in marcom), I&#39;ve sent the following to the council list. I&#39;m<br>
+pretty disappointed that it was necessary...<br>
+<br>
+&gt; Marcom post-mortem: the vanishing team. I&#39;m putting this here, because<br>
+&gt; I haven&#39;t had any responses at all from anyone on the team, either on<br>
+&gt; the wiki or on the mailing list. For all intents and purposes, marcom<br>
+&gt; is me, and nobody else.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Post-mortem: marcom is unsustainable, the way it is, and I&#39;m not<br>
+&gt; really able to promise that I can do it all myself - I&#39;ve got a fair<br>
+&gt; bit on my plate at the moment, and I can&#39;t really do it justice.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;d be very grateful for any suggestions, input, warm bodies...<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; (Also, I&#39;d like to dump marcom and move to get an accessibility team<br>
+&gt; going, but that&#39;s another story, and I won&#39;t do it without at least<br>
+&gt; trying to get something happening in marcom.)<br>
+<p><font color="#500050"><br><br>-- <br>Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607</font></p>Mon Jun 4 21:13:33 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 <a href="http://counter.li.org" target="_blank">counter.li.org</a><br>
+hermes up 13 hour(s), 21 min.<br>
+<p><font color="#500050">Mageia release 2 (Official) for x86_64<br>kernel 3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2</font></p><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></p>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#009900" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ Hey Folks,<br>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp; I'm a System Admin from MI, USA.&nbsp; For work I have always had to
+ use RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively.&nbsp; I
+ have started running Mageia w/KDE on my laptop starting at beta-2.&nbsp;
+ Was running it along side Bodhi w/E17 and Win7, now my laptop runs
+ Mageia only.&nbsp; <br>
+ &nbsp; I never got into Mandriva/Mandrake too much before, mostly because
+ I started with SUSE back in '03 and then spent most of my time
+ learning RHEL &amp; clones as they are pretty dominant here in the
+ U.S. or at least those that I have worked at.<br>
+ &nbsp; At any rate I am very impressed with Mageia, and figure with the
+ time I'm spending on it I may as well pitch in a little as well.&nbsp; I
+ am pretty capable, but like I said more used to the RH way of things
+ is all.&nbsp; I am more an operations/server admin, and am not too into
+ development, with the exception of front-end web-dev.<br>
+ &nbsp; I am sending this off to a few lists and look forward to working
+ with you all.<br>
+ <br>
+ Regards,<br>
+ <br>
+ Jonathan Ingold (Digigold)<br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#009900" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ Hey Folks,<br>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp; I'm a System Admin from MI, USA.&nbsp; For work I have always had to
+ use RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively.&nbsp; I
+ have started running Mageia w/KDE on my laptop starting at beta-2.&nbsp;
+ Was running it along side Bodhi w/E17 and Win7, now my laptop runs
+ Mageia only.&nbsp; <br>
+ &nbsp; I never got into Mandriva/Mandrake too much before, mostly because
+ I started with SUSE back in '03 and then spent most of my time
+ learning RHEL &amp; clones as they are pretty dominant here in the
+ U.S. or at least those that I have worked at.<br>
+ &nbsp; At any rate I am very impressed with Mageia, and figure with the
+ time I'm spending on it I may as well pitch in a little as well.&nbsp; I
+ am pretty capable, but like I said more used to the RH way of things
+ is all.&nbsp; I am more an operations/server admin, and am not too into
+ development, with the exception of front-end web-dev.<br>
+ &nbsp; I am sending this off to a few lists and look forward to working
+ with you all.<br>
+ <br>
+ Regards,<br>
+ <br>
+ Jonathan Ingold (Digigold)<br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
+ charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ Hey Folks,<br>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp; I'm a System Admin from MI, USA.&nbsp; For work I have always had to
+ use RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively.&nbsp; I
+ have started running Mageia w/KDE on my laptop starting at beta-2.&nbsp;
+ Was running it along side Bodhi w/E17 and Win7, now my laptop runs
+ Mageia only.&nbsp; <br>
+ &nbsp; I never got into Mandriva/Mandrake too much before, mostly because
+ I started with SUSE back in '03 and then spent most of my time
+ learning RHEL &amp; clones as they are pretty dominant here in the
+ U.S. or at least those that I have worked at.<br>
+ &nbsp; At any rate I am very impressed with Mageia, and figure with the
+ time I'm spending on it I may as well pitch in a little as well.&nbsp; I
+ am pretty capable, but like I said more used to the RH way of things
+ is all.&nbsp; I am more an operations/server admin, and am not too into
+ development, with the exception of front-end web-dev.<br>
+ &nbsp; I am sending this off to a few lists and look forward to working
+ with you all.<br>
+ <br>
+ Regards,<br>
+ <br>
+ Jonathan Ingold (Digigold)<br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
+ charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ Hey Folks,<br>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp; I'm a System Admin from MI, USA.&nbsp; For work I have always had to
+ use RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively.&nbsp; I
+ have started running Mageia w/KDE on my laptop starting at beta-2.&nbsp;
+ Was running it along side Bodhi w/E17 and Win7, now my laptop runs
+ Mageia only.&nbsp; <br>
+ &nbsp; I never got into Mandriva/Mandrake too much before, mostly because
+ I started with SUSE back in '03 and then spent most of my time
+ learning RHEL &amp; clones as they are pretty dominant here in the
+ U.S. or at least those that I have worked at.<br>
+ &nbsp; At any rate I am very impressed with Mageia, and figure with the
+ time I'm spending on it I may as well pitch in a little as well.&nbsp; I
+ am pretty capable, but like I said more used to the RH way of things
+ is all.&nbsp; I am more an operations/server admin, and am not too into
+ development, with the exception of front-end web-dev.<br>
+ &nbsp; I am sending this off to a few lists and look forward to working
+ with you all.<br>
+ <br>
+ Regards,<br>
+ <br>
+ Jonathan Ingold (Digigold)<br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120608/1e1f695e/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120608/1e1f695e/attachment-0001.html
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ On 06/07/2012 03:27 PM, Sebastian wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:4FD10096.5070103@gmx.com" type="cite">As of
+ yesterday (Wednesday) Marcom has a new member, he was in the IRC
+ channel for Marcom, and I chatted to him there, and got him to
+ send a introduction email to this mailing list, which is awaiting
+ approval or something.&nbsp; I also suggested he joined the
+ Systemadmin, and QA team, and maybe webteam as well, after talking
+ to him, so I guess he's in all of those teams now really as well.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ An introduction email got through to the Systemadmins mailing
+ list, QA, and webteam.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I also explained to him about how Marcom, artwork, and webteam,&nbsp;
+ will be merging into one team soon as well.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ Sebastian
+ <br>
+ _______________________________________________
+ <br>
+ Mageia-marketing mailing list
+ <br>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+ <br>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <font face="Utopia">Well I'm getting the emails anyway...</font><br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ On 06/07/2012 03:27 PM, Sebastian wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:4FD10096.5070103@gmx.com" type="cite">As of
+ yesterday (Wednesday) Marcom has a new member, he was in the IRC
+ channel for Marcom, and I chatted to him there, and got him to
+ send a introduction email to this mailing list, which is awaiting
+ approval or something.&nbsp; I also suggested he joined the
+ Systemadmin, and QA team, and maybe webteam as well, after talking
+ to him, so I guess he's in all of those teams now really as well.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ An introduction email got through to the Systemadmins mailing
+ list, QA, and webteam.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I also explained to him about how Marcom, artwork, and webteam,&nbsp;
+ will be merging into one team soon as well.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ Sebastian
+ <br>
+ _______________________________________________
+ <br>
+ Mageia-marketing mailing list
+ <br>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+ <br>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <font face="Utopia">Well I'm getting the emails anyway...</font><br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120609/2d7254dc/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120609/2d7254dc/attachment-0001.html
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
+ charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ <font face="Utopia"><u><b>Note:</b></u><i>&nbsp; I have had some trouble
+ with this particular list, but I think I got it straightened
+ out; however, I apologize if this is a duplicate email.<br>
+ <br>
+ </i></font>Hey Folks,<br>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp; I'm a System Admin from MI, USA.&nbsp; For work I have always had to
+ use RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively.&nbsp; I
+ have started running Mageia w/KDE on my laptop starting at beta-2.&nbsp;
+ Was running it along side Bodhi w/E17 and Win7, now my laptop runs
+ Mageia only.&nbsp; <br>
+ &nbsp; I never got into Mandriva/Mandrake too much before, mostly because
+ I started with SUSE back in '03 and then spent most of my time
+ learning RHEL &amp; clones as they are pretty dominant here in the
+ U.S., or at least at the shops that I have worked in.<br>
+ &nbsp; At any rate I am very impressed with Mageia, and figure with the
+ time I'm spending on it I may as well pitch in a little as well.&nbsp; I
+ am pretty capable, but like I said more used to the RH way of things
+ is all.&nbsp; I am more an operations/server admin, and am not too into
+ development, with the exception of front-end web-dev.<br>
+ &nbsp; I am sending this off to a few lists and look forward to working
+ with you all.<br>
+ <br>
+ Regards,<br>
+ <br>
+ Jonathan Ingold (Digigold)<br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
+ charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ <font face="Utopia"><u><b>Note:</b></u><i>&nbsp; I have had some trouble
+ with this particular list, but I think I got it straightened
+ out; however, I apologize if this is a duplicate email.<br>
+ <br>
+ </i></font>Hey Folks,<br>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp; I'm a System Admin from MI, USA.&nbsp; For work I have always had to
+ use RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively.&nbsp; I
+ have started running Mageia w/KDE on my laptop starting at beta-2.&nbsp;
+ Was running it along side Bodhi w/E17 and Win7, now my laptop runs
+ Mageia only.&nbsp; <br>
+ &nbsp; I never got into Mandriva/Mandrake too much before, mostly because
+ I started with SUSE back in '03 and then spent most of my time
+ learning RHEL &amp; clones as they are pretty dominant here in the
+ U.S., or at least at the shops that I have worked in.<br>
+ &nbsp; At any rate I am very impressed with Mageia, and figure with the
+ time I'm spending on it I may as well pitch in a little as well.&nbsp; I
+ am pretty capable, but like I said more used to the RH way of things
+ is all.&nbsp; I am more an operations/server admin, and am not too into
+ development, with the exception of front-end web-dev.<br>
+ &nbsp; I am sending this off to a few lists and look forward to working
+ with you all.<br>
+ <br>
+ Regards,<br>
+ <br>
+ Jonathan Ingold (Digigold)<br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi everyone, (xposted on -marketing, -artwork and -webteam; if<br>
+possible, please follow-up in -marketing)<br>
+<br>
+So here&#39;s the plan (actually, that&#39;s a suggestion of a plan):<br>
+- we make a new team; which role is to think, design, produce and<br>
+maintain the identity of the project and its declinations in messages,<br>
+graphics, Web and print [1];<br>
+- this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;<br></blockquote><div><br>My French is a little rusty. Does that mean &quot;workshop&quot;? Who came up with that name? How is it pronounced? And why? (I personally was starting to like webartcom)<br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- a new mailing-list is open for that;<br></blockquote><div><br>Are all participants of -marcom, -web and -artwork automatically subscribed to this new list? What is the address? (So I can create a new mail filter)<br></div>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- it practically merges responsibilities from artwork, web and marcom teams;<br></blockquote><div><br>Good!<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+- it integrates roles as diverse as: design, marketing, graphic<br>
+research and production, copy writing, web design, integration and<br>
+development, curation, etc.<br>
+- existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but<br>
+locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;<br></blockquote><div><br>When will this happen?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+- will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making<br>
+and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,<br>
+graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still<br>
+welcome, but not enough to move forward;<br></blockquote><div><br>So, sort of a reward for participating? Interesting.... but might not work.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+- external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer<br>
+getting in touch/inviting a professional person to propose and work on<br>
+a specific, focused topic, from overall project identity design, down<br>
+to a specific production. It only needs to be stated within the team<br>
+first so that everyone is in sync;<br></blockquote><div><br>I think iamoverrated has already started doing this with a graphic designer. I&#39;m not sure on the details, we&#39;ve been playing IRC tag for a week or so...<br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from<br>
+external people are made easier is a true option too (that means<br>
+things easier to grasp, understand and update);<br></blockquote><div><br>How?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through<br>
+the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not<br>
+a must, just good to have;<br></blockquote><div><br>Where will we be hanging out? New channel? One of the existing channels?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+- no more than 10 hours a week on Mageia.<br></blockquote><div><br>Hah! I wish I had that much time to give to Mageia :P<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+Questions:<br>
+- who&#39;s going to lead this?<br></blockquote><div><br>I nominate Romain.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- what&#39;s the plan up to Mageia 3? several things at least in several<br>
+regards (identity, print, web, distribution), but that will highly<br>
+depend on who lead(s) the team.<br></blockquote><div><br>We will probably have to come up with three separate lines of advance. One focusing on web, one focusing on distro-look and one focusing on PR. Sort of to set our goals for each one. They will, of course, overlap, but the end-products of each distinct line will be different.<br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<br>
+[1] ideally, everything that&#39;s the public face of Mageia.Org, the<br>
+Mageia distribution and the Mageia project should go through this<br>
+team; that does not mean that things will not be flexible, but if<br>
+there&#39;s one place to discuss, document and synchronize all this work,<br>
+it&#39;s here. That, in turn, requires some responsiveness and initiative<br>
+from the team members.<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi everyone, (xposted on -marketing, -artwork and -webteam; if<br>
+possible, please follow-up in -marketing)<br>
+<br>
+So here&#39;s the plan (actually, that&#39;s a suggestion of a plan):<br>
+- we make a new team; which role is to think, design, produce and<br>
+maintain the identity of the project and its declinations in messages,<br>
+graphics, Web and print [1];<br>
+- this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;<br></blockquote><div><br>My French is a little rusty. Does that mean &quot;workshop&quot;? Who came up with that name? How is it pronounced? And why? (I personally was starting to like webartcom)<br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- a new mailing-list is open for that;<br></blockquote><div><br>Are all participants of -marcom, -web and -artwork automatically subscribed to this new list? What is the address? (So I can create a new mail filter)<br></div>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- it practically merges responsibilities from artwork, web and marcom teams;<br></blockquote><div><br>Good!<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+- it integrates roles as diverse as: design, marketing, graphic<br>
+research and production, copy writing, web design, integration and<br>
+development, curation, etc.<br>
+- existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but<br>
+locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;<br></blockquote><div><br>When will this happen?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+- will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making<br>
+and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,<br>
+graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still<br>
+welcome, but not enough to move forward;<br></blockquote><div><br>So, sort of a reward for participating? Interesting.... but might not work.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+- external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer<br>
+getting in touch/inviting a professional person to propose and work on<br>
+a specific, focused topic, from overall project identity design, down<br>
+to a specific production. It only needs to be stated within the team<br>
+first so that everyone is in sync;<br></blockquote><div><br>I think iamoverrated has already started doing this with a graphic designer. I&#39;m not sure on the details, we&#39;ve been playing IRC tag for a week or so...<br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from<br>
+external people are made easier is a true option too (that means<br>
+things easier to grasp, understand and update);<br></blockquote><div><br>How?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through<br>
+the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not<br>
+a must, just good to have;<br></blockquote><div><br>Where will we be hanging out? New channel? One of the existing channels?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+- no more than 10 hours a week on Mageia.<br></blockquote><div><br>Hah! I wish I had that much time to give to Mageia :P<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+Questions:<br>
+- who&#39;s going to lead this?<br></blockquote><div><br>I nominate Romain.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- what&#39;s the plan up to Mageia 3? several things at least in several<br>
+regards (identity, print, web, distribution), but that will highly<br>
+depend on who lead(s) the team.<br></blockquote><div><br>We will probably have to come up with three separate lines of advance. One focusing on web, one focusing on distro-look and one focusing on PR. Sort of to set our goals for each one. They will, of course, overlap, but the end-products of each distinct line will be different.<br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<br>
+[1] ideally, everything that&#39;s the public face of Mageia.Org, the<br>
+Mageia distribution and the Mageia project should go through this<br>
+team; that does not mean that things will not be flexible, but if<br>
+there&#39;s one place to discuss, document and synchronize all this work,<br>
+it&#39;s here. That, in turn, requires some responsiveness and initiative<br>
+from the team members.<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="im">On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Romain d&#39;Alverny &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+</div><div class="im">&gt;&gt;  - this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; My French is a little rusty. Does that mean &quot;workshop&quot;?<br>
+<br>
+</div>Yes.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt; Who came up with that name?<br>
+<br>
+</div>Doesn&#39;t matter. It&#39;s just picked to have something.<br></blockquote><div><br>OK, sounds good.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+&gt; How is it pronounced?<br>
+<br>
+/a.tə.lje/ see <a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier" target="_blank">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier</a><br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt; And why? (I personally was starting to like webartcom)<br>
+<br>
+</div>webartcom is reductive - and ugly.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - a new mailing-list is open for that;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Are all participants of -marcom, -web and -artwork automatically subscribed<br>
+&gt; to this new list? What is the address? (So I can create a new mail filter)<br>
+<br>
+</div>This list is not registered yet. All participants will have to<br>
+subscribe, an update message stating each former list being closed and<br>
+directions to subscribe to the new list will be sent.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but<br>
+&gt;&gt; locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; When will this happen?<br>
+<br>
+</div>As soon as 3 or 4 people can agree on a plan and there&#39;s no large<br>
+objection from others, and Council validates it. A good time would be<br>
+by the end of this week.<br></blockquote><div><br>Count me in. I don&#39;t know how much I&#39;ll be able to help, I&#39;ve got a lot going in in meatspace now, but I really do want to see things moving along on this.<br>
+What kind of plan do we need? (Maybe start that in a new thread?)<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making<br>
+&gt;&gt; and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,<br>
+&gt;&gt; graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still<br>
+&gt;&gt; welcome, but not enough to move forward;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; So, sort of a reward for participating? Interesting.... but might not work.<br>
+<br>
+</div>Then what would you suggest that would work better?<br>
+<br>
+Here it&#39;s not a reward; it&#39;s a right, if you participate/make things<br>
+or if you&#39;re included by the team peers; and it&#39;s how it happens in<br>
+other teams (packagers, dev, sysadmin, qa, i18n, etc.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yes, I can see that. But part of the problem that we&#39;ve had recently is with people not contributing.<br>It&#39;s fine to say &quot;If you contribute then you get a say in what happens&quot; but if nobody is contributing....<br>
+I can&#39;t really think of any alternative, since it is a very good way to do things.<br>I&#39;m just a little concerned about people not contributing.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer<br>
+</div>&gt;&gt; getting in touch/inviting a professional person [...]<br>
+<div class="im">&gt;<br>
+&gt; I think iamoverrated has already started doing this with a graphic designer.<br>
+&gt; I&#39;m not sure on the details, we&#39;ve been playing IRC tag for a week or so...<br>
+<br>
+</div>Oh, that&#39;s great then. That would be even greater that details (what<br>
+work, what scope, when, how, etc.) and progress are posted on this<br>
+list so that things are not wasted or duplicated in the end.<br>
+<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div><br>I&#39;ll ping him and see what he can tell us.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="im">
+&gt;&gt;  - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from<br>
+&gt;&gt; external people are made easier is a true option too (that means<br>
+&gt;&gt; things easier to grasp, understand and update);<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; How?<br>
+<br>
+</div>I don&#39;t know. At this time, I only can find GitHub&#39;s &quot;fork and pull&quot;<br>
+way very inspiring<br>
+(<a href="https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests" target="_blank">https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests</a>) + more<br>
+documentation on how/why things are as they are.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through<br>
+&gt;&gt; the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not<br>
+&gt;&gt; a must, just good to have;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Where will we be hanging out? New channel? One of the existing channels?<br>
+<br>
+</div>We&#39;ll see. &quot;No meeting&quot; policy doesn&#39;t prevent from chatting, hopefully :-p<br></blockquote><div><br>Indeed.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="im">On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Romain d&#39;Alverny &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+</div><div class="im">&gt;&gt;  - this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; My French is a little rusty. Does that mean &quot;workshop&quot;?<br>
+<br>
+</div>Yes.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt; Who came up with that name?<br>
+<br>
+</div>Doesn&#39;t matter. It&#39;s just picked to have something.<br></blockquote><div><br>OK, sounds good.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+&gt; How is it pronounced?<br>
+<br>
+/a.tə.lje/ see <a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier" target="_blank">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier</a><br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt; And why? (I personally was starting to like webartcom)<br>
+<br>
+</div>webartcom is reductive - and ugly.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - a new mailing-list is open for that;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Are all participants of -marcom, -web and -artwork automatically subscribed<br>
+&gt; to this new list? What is the address? (So I can create a new mail filter)<br>
+<br>
+</div>This list is not registered yet. All participants will have to<br>
+subscribe, an update message stating each former list being closed and<br>
+directions to subscribe to the new list will be sent.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but<br>
+&gt;&gt; locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; When will this happen?<br>
+<br>
+</div>As soon as 3 or 4 people can agree on a plan and there&#39;s no large<br>
+objection from others, and Council validates it. A good time would be<br>
+by the end of this week.<br></blockquote><div><br>Count me in. I don&#39;t know how much I&#39;ll be able to help, I&#39;ve got a lot going in in meatspace now, but I really do want to see things moving along on this.<br>
+What kind of plan do we need? (Maybe start that in a new thread?)<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making<br>
+&gt;&gt; and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,<br>
+&gt;&gt; graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still<br>
+&gt;&gt; welcome, but not enough to move forward;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; So, sort of a reward for participating? Interesting.... but might not work.<br>
+<br>
+</div>Then what would you suggest that would work better?<br>
+<br>
+Here it&#39;s not a reward; it&#39;s a right, if you participate/make things<br>
+or if you&#39;re included by the team peers; and it&#39;s how it happens in<br>
+other teams (packagers, dev, sysadmin, qa, i18n, etc.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yes, I can see that. But part of the problem that we&#39;ve had recently is with people not contributing.<br>It&#39;s fine to say &quot;If you contribute then you get a say in what happens&quot; but if nobody is contributing....<br>
+I can&#39;t really think of any alternative, since it is a very good way to do things.<br>I&#39;m just a little concerned about people not contributing.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer<br>
+</div>&gt;&gt; getting in touch/inviting a professional person [...]<br>
+<div class="im">&gt;<br>
+&gt; I think iamoverrated has already started doing this with a graphic designer.<br>
+&gt; I&#39;m not sure on the details, we&#39;ve been playing IRC tag for a week or so...<br>
+<br>
+</div>Oh, that&#39;s great then. That would be even greater that details (what<br>
+work, what scope, when, how, etc.) and progress are posted on this<br>
+list so that things are not wasted or duplicated in the end.<br>
+<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div><br>I&#39;ll ping him and see what he can tell us.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="im">
+&gt;&gt;  - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from<br>
+&gt;&gt; external people are made easier is a true option too (that means<br>
+&gt;&gt; things easier to grasp, understand and update);<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; How?<br>
+<br>
+</div>I don&#39;t know. At this time, I only can find GitHub&#39;s &quot;fork and pull&quot;<br>
+way very inspiring<br>
+(<a href="https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests" target="_blank">https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests</a>) + more<br>
+documentation on how/why things are as they are.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through<br>
+&gt;&gt; the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not<br>
+&gt;&gt; a must, just good to have;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Where will we be hanging out? New channel? One of the existing channels?<br>
+<br>
+</div>We&#39;ll see. &quot;No meeting&quot; policy doesn&#39;t prevent from chatting, hopefully :-p<br></blockquote><div><br>Indeed.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Joita Dan-Marian <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:djmarian4u@hotmail.com" target="_blank">djmarian4u@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+<div><div dir="ltr">
+Hi,<br>
+ <br>
+ I would like to have a mageia banner on my website, it can be
+ written in English. I can translate it in Romanian, i am a member of
+ the translation team.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Have a look at this thread: <a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=83&amp;p=14265">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=83&amp;p=14265</a><br>
+I have the xcf (Gimp source) files somewhere, so it shouldn&#39;t be too hard to get it in Romanian.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div><div dir="ltr">
+ <a href="http://www.famitemele.ro" target="_blank">www.famitemele.ro</a>,
+ some students (I am no longer a student) that try to help education
+ grow (we do have a problem, they want us to solve their homework
+ completely), I can be contacted for this because I started the page,
+ Romanian (and I will translate the framework to English)<br>
+ <br>
+ Someone suggested I should add a &#39;powered by Mageia&#39; but text is not
+ so eye catching.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+ <pre cols="72">--
+
+With respect,
+Dan-Marian, Joiţa.</pre> </font></span></div></div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Joita Dan-Marian <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:djmarian4u@hotmail.com" target="_blank">djmarian4u@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+<div><div dir="ltr">
+Hi,<br>
+ <br>
+ I would like to have a mageia banner on my website, it can be
+ written in English. I can translate it in Romanian, i am a member of
+ the translation team.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Have a look at this thread: <a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=83&amp;p=14265">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=83&amp;p=14265</a><br>
+I have the xcf (Gimp source) files somewhere, so it shouldn&#39;t be too hard to get it in Romanian.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div><div dir="ltr">
+ <a href="http://www.famitemele.ro" target="_blank">www.famitemele.ro</a>,
+ some students (I am no longer a student) that try to help education
+ grow (we do have a problem, they want us to solve their homework
+ completely), I can be contacted for this because I started the page,
+ Romanian (and I will translate the framework to English)<br>
+ <br>
+ Someone suggested I should add a &#39;powered by Mageia&#39; but text is not
+ so eye catching.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+ <pre cols="72">--
+
+With respect,
+Dan-Marian, Joiţa.</pre> </font></span></div></div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<p>Few things, but as always, sorry for the top post. I only have my phone.</p>
+<p>The name is irrelevant, and it sounding like &quot;magic&quot; also,this was the issues with the previous teams, to many fine details.</p>
+<p>As for the leadership, I feel that each sub group should still have at least a coordinator, but there is still an overall leader who is responsible for the whole team. I nominate rda for this, with trish and max being the respective chair people.</p>
+
+<p>The wiki should still have sections devoted to each sub group, but generally linked from the atelier page. This not only keeps it neat but also reduces work.</p>
+<p>The goals mga 3 should not be set high, having the core work that we need to do done with time for testing/checking will most likely be enough to keep us easily busy.</p>
+<p>Finally, the implication that there are so few people in marcom and artwork that actually do anything is getting really annoying, I for one have seen many people, well 3 other than trish and seb working on the release texts, and artwork has many people that work behind scenes, they just aren&#39;t so vocal here but that doesn&#39;t mean that they don&#39;t work. While I realise that the release has been tough and stressful on many people and mageia isnt the only thing they need to deal with, but the in fighting and negative feel that has appeared recently must stop if this team is to grow and work together.</p>
+
+<p>I like thw idea of no meetings and working on stuff yourself, but we must keep people aware of what we are doing, artwork lost months because of this with choosing the background. </p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 11 Jun 2012 16:39, &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br><p><font color="#500050">On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Sebastian &lt;<a href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; Now imagine if I had ...</font></p>So say what you do in the project (shorter and to the point), not what<br>
+the title says.<br>
+<p><font color="#500050"><br>&gt; Also Mageia may be a French distribution really, but Mageia exists in a tech<br>&gt; world where people...</font></p>So what? It&#39;s a team _name_. &quot;mageia&quot; isn&#39;t English either. If _that_<br>
+
+keeps some people away, really, well, it&#39;s not a loss.<br>
+<p><font color="#500050">_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>Mageia-marketing@magei...</font></p></blockquote></p>
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+<p>Few things, but as always, sorry for the top post. I only have my phone.</p>
+<p>The name is irrelevant, and it sounding like &quot;magic&quot; also,this was the issues with the previous teams, to many fine details.</p>
+<p>As for the leadership, I feel that each sub group should still have at least a coordinator, but there is still an overall leader who is responsible for the whole team. I nominate rda for this, with trish and max being the respective chair people.</p>
+
+<p>The wiki should still have sections devoted to each sub group, but generally linked from the atelier page. This not only keeps it neat but also reduces work.</p>
+<p>The goals mga 3 should not be set high, having the core work that we need to do done with time for testing/checking will most likely be enough to keep us easily busy.</p>
+<p>Finally, the implication that there are so few people in marcom and artwork that actually do anything is getting really annoying, I for one have seen many people, well 3 other than trish and seb working on the release texts, and artwork has many people that work behind scenes, they just aren&#39;t so vocal here but that doesn&#39;t mean that they don&#39;t work. While I realise that the release has been tough and stressful on many people and mageia isnt the only thing they need to deal with, but the in fighting and negative feel that has appeared recently must stop if this team is to grow and work together.</p>
+
+<p>I like thw idea of no meetings and working on stuff yourself, but we must keep people aware of what we are doing, artwork lost months because of this with choosing the background. </p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 11 Jun 2012 16:39, &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br><p><font color="#500050">On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Sebastian &lt;<a href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; Now imagine if I had ...</font></p>So say what you do in the project (shorter and to the point), not what<br>
+the title says.<br>
+<p><font color="#500050"><br>&gt; Also Mageia may be a French distribution really, but Mageia exists in a tech<br>&gt; world where people...</font></p>So what? It&#39;s a team _name_. &quot;mageia&quot; isn&#39;t English either. If _that_<br>
+
+keeps some people away, really, well, it&#39;s not a loss.<br>
+<p><font color="#500050">_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>Mageia-marketing@magei...</font></p></blockquote></p>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Donald Stewart <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com" target="_blank">watersnowrock@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<p>Few things, but as always, sorry for the top post. I only have my phone.</p>
+<p>The name is irrelevant, and it sounding like &quot;magic&quot; also,this was the issues with the previous teams, to many fine details.</p>
+<p>As for the leadership, I feel that each sub group should still have at least a coordinator, but there is still an overall leader who is responsible for the whole team. I nominate rda for this, with trish and max being the respective chair people.</p>
+
+
+<p>The wiki should still have sections devoted to each sub group, but generally linked from the atelier page. This not only keeps it neat but also reduces work.</p>
+<p>The goals mga 3 should not be set high, having the core work that we need to do done with time for testing/checking will most likely be enough to keep us easily busy.</p>
+<p>Finally, the implication that there are so few people in marcom and artwork that actually do anything is getting really annoying, I for one have seen many people, well 3 other than trish and seb working on the release texts, and artwork has many people that work behind scenes, they just aren&#39;t so vocal here but that doesn&#39;t mean that they don&#39;t work.</p>
+</blockquote><div><br>You weren&#39;t in all those meetings that comprised of me, Tumbeliina and one other rotating person. They basically went like this: discuss something a little bit, decide what needs to get done, call for volunteer, silence.....<br>
+When this pattern repeats itself time and time again, one can&#39;t help but get a certain feeling.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<p> While I realise that the release has been tough and stressful on many people and mageia isnt the only thing they need to deal with, but the in fighting and negative feel that has appeared recently must stop if this team is to grow and work together.</p>
+</blockquote><div><br>I agree. But we should also learn from our past mistakes, that&#39;s why we make them.<br>Bringing up an issue is the first, and most important, step in learning from one&#39;s mistakes.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+<p>I like thw idea of no meetings and working on stuff yourself, but we must keep people aware of what we are doing, artwork lost months because of this with choosing the background. </p></blockquote><div><br>Indeed.<br>
+I think that a way for this to happen would for all the work being done be done on the Mageia servers, and each file contain a detailed history of who did what when. That way we can all pick and choose what we are working on, and at any given time know what anybody else is working on.<br>
+Having never done this sort of work, I can&#39;t recommend any software that does this, but I have heard rumors of git and svn. Maybe one of them have the features we need.<br></div></div></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Donald Stewart <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com" target="_blank">watersnowrock@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<p>Few things, but as always, sorry for the top post. I only have my phone.</p>
+<p>The name is irrelevant, and it sounding like &quot;magic&quot; also,this was the issues with the previous teams, to many fine details.</p>
+<p>As for the leadership, I feel that each sub group should still have at least a coordinator, but there is still an overall leader who is responsible for the whole team. I nominate rda for this, with trish and max being the respective chair people.</p>
+
+
+<p>The wiki should still have sections devoted to each sub group, but generally linked from the atelier page. This not only keeps it neat but also reduces work.</p>
+<p>The goals mga 3 should not be set high, having the core work that we need to do done with time for testing/checking will most likely be enough to keep us easily busy.</p>
+<p>Finally, the implication that there are so few people in marcom and artwork that actually do anything is getting really annoying, I for one have seen many people, well 3 other than trish and seb working on the release texts, and artwork has many people that work behind scenes, they just aren&#39;t so vocal here but that doesn&#39;t mean that they don&#39;t work.</p>
+</blockquote><div><br>You weren&#39;t in all those meetings that comprised of me, Tumbeliina and one other rotating person. They basically went like this: discuss something a little bit, decide what needs to get done, call for volunteer, silence.....<br>
+When this pattern repeats itself time and time again, one can&#39;t help but get a certain feeling.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<p> While I realise that the release has been tough and stressful on many people and mageia isnt the only thing they need to deal with, but the in fighting and negative feel that has appeared recently must stop if this team is to grow and work together.</p>
+</blockquote><div><br>I agree. But we should also learn from our past mistakes, that&#39;s why we make them.<br>Bringing up an issue is the first, and most important, step in learning from one&#39;s mistakes.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+<p>I like thw idea of no meetings and working on stuff yourself, but we must keep people aware of what we are doing, artwork lost months because of this with choosing the background. </p></blockquote><div><br>Indeed.<br>
+I think that a way for this to happen would for all the work being done be done on the Mageia servers, and each file contain a detailed history of who did what when. That way we can all pick and choose what we are working on, and at any given time know what anybody else is working on.<br>
+Having never done this sort of work, I can&#39;t recommend any software that does this, but I have heard rumors of git and svn. Maybe one of them have the features we need.<br></div></div></div>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
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+ On 06/12/2012 07:15 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CANa9xwse0VjwciOn3-_6sTnwXRyxFJMBiqDJfVzH1TM4o3uT8A@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">The one of these that I felt could really use some urgent attention is
+Wikipedia. [...]
+If perhaps someone either from this team or maybe the document team
+has some approved language I could write a proposal for a Wikipedia update.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+What do you suggest to write?
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ I was thinking mostly just about expanding on features, mission,
+ community, etc.&nbsp; I'm going through the archives now, but I am
+ looking to see where I can currently be of the most help while my
+ workload is lighter.&nbsp; Would you like me to write a mock page?<br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#009900" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ On 06/12/2012 07:15 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CANa9xwse0VjwciOn3-_6sTnwXRyxFJMBiqDJfVzH1TM4o3uT8A@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">The one of these that I felt could really use some urgent attention is
+Wikipedia. [...]
+If perhaps someone either from this team or maybe the document team
+has some approved language I could write a proposal for a Wikipedia update.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+What do you suggest to write?
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ I was thinking mostly just about expanding on features, mission,
+ community, etc.&nbsp; I'm going through the archives now, but I am
+ looking to see where I can currently be of the most help while my
+ workload is lighter.&nbsp; Would you like me to write a mock page?<br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#009900" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ On 06/09/2012 12:27 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CANa9xwtG=A5L6HKxBeGiaU38myW1=8g8C6P68xX1RY0nL0ZLKA@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi everyone, (xposted on -marketing, -artwork and -webteam; if
+possible, please follow-up in -marketing)
+
+So here's the plan (actually, that's a suggestion of a plan):
+ - we make a new team; which role is to think, design, produce and
+maintain the identity of the project and its declinations in messages,
+graphics, Web and print [1];
+ - this team is named "atelier";
+ - a new mailing-list is open for that;
+ - it practically merges responsibilities from artwork, web and marcom teams;
+ - it integrates roles as diverse as: design, marketing, graphic
+research and production, copy writing, web design, integration and
+development, curation, etc.
+ - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but
+locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;
+ - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making
+and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,
+graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still
+welcome, but not enough to move forward;
+ - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer
+getting in touch/inviting a professional person to propose and work on
+a specific, focused topic, from overall project identity design, down
+to a specific production. It only needs to be stated within the team
+first so that everyone is in sync;
+ - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from
+external people are made easier is a true option too (that means
+things easier to grasp, understand and update);
+ - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through
+the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not
+a must, just good to have;
+ - no more than 10 hours a week on Mageia.
+
+Questions:
+ - who's going to lead this?
+ - what's the plan up to Mageia 3? several things at least in several
+regards (identity, print, web, distribution), but that will highly
+depend on who lead(s) the team.
+
+[1] ideally, everything that's the public face of Mageia.Org, the
+Mageia distribution and the Mageia project should go through this
+team; that does not mean that things will not be flexible, but if
+there's one place to discuss, document and synchronize all this work,
+it's here. That, in turn, requires some responsiveness and initiative
+from the team members.
+_______________________________________________an
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <font face="Utopia">Sounds good to me.&nbsp; I would like to take on some
+ work especially concerning Marketing where it appears that we're
+ especially thin here.&nbsp; I feel that although the distrowatch
+ page-hits are high, there is not nearly enough of an overall web
+ presence.&nbsp; I think that Mageia has an especially good potential to
+ poach Ubunt/Mint users but the buzz just isn't there.&nbsp; I t</font>ried
+
+
+ to add some sites to the list in sandbox, but was denied
+ permission.&nbsp; Here are some sites I found:<br>
+ <br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.lifehacker.com/">http://www.lifehacker.com/</a>
+ Gawkers tech blog.&nbsp; Allot of entry level Linux users<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://linux.slashdot.org/">http://linux.slashdot.org/</a>
+ /EN - Very well known IT Blog<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.desktoplinuxreviews.com">http://www.desktoplinuxreviews.com</a>
+ /EN Linux reviews<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com</a>
+ /EN Linux/Informational<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.linuxbsdos.com">http://www.linuxbsdos.com</a>
+ /EN Linux Reviews<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="https://www.linuxquestions.org">https://www.linuxquestions.org</a>
+ /&nbsp; Linux/Informational<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia</a><br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.techradar.com">http://www.techradar.com</a>
+ /EN Tech News &amp; Info<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.gnu.org">https://www.gnu.org</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.linuxbasis.com/distributions.html">http://www.linuxbasis.com/distributions.html</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dedoimedo.com">http://www.dedoimedo.com</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.linuxinsider.com">http://www.linuxinsider.com</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.linuxjournal.com">http://www.linuxjournal.com</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://linuxos.pro">http://linuxos.pro</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.thisweekinlinux.com">http://www.thisweekinlinux.com</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ <br>
+ The one of these that I felt could really use some urgent attention
+ is Wikipedia.&nbsp; I know this committee/team is in a state of flux with
+ the merge and all but every day that goes by is a day further away
+ from its' release.&nbsp;&nbsp; I have my main contract winding down here so I
+ have some extra time.&nbsp; If perhaps someone either from this team or
+ maybe the document team has some approved language I could write a
+ proposal for a Wikipedia update.&nbsp; Let me know what everyone thinks.<br>
+ <br>
+ Kind Regards,<br>
+ <br>
+ Digigold<br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">--<br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#009900" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ On 06/09/2012 12:27 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CANa9xwtG=A5L6HKxBeGiaU38myW1=8g8C6P68xX1RY0nL0ZLKA@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi everyone, (xposted on -marketing, -artwork and -webteam; if
+possible, please follow-up in -marketing)
+
+So here's the plan (actually, that's a suggestion of a plan):
+ - we make a new team; which role is to think, design, produce and
+maintain the identity of the project and its declinations in messages,
+graphics, Web and print [1];
+ - this team is named "atelier";
+ - a new mailing-list is open for that;
+ - it practically merges responsibilities from artwork, web and marcom teams;
+ - it integrates roles as diverse as: design, marketing, graphic
+research and production, copy writing, web design, integration and
+development, curation, etc.
+ - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but
+locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;
+ - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making
+and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,
+graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still
+welcome, but not enough to move forward;
+ - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer
+getting in touch/inviting a professional person to propose and work on
+a specific, focused topic, from overall project identity design, down
+to a specific production. It only needs to be stated within the team
+first so that everyone is in sync;
+ - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from
+external people are made easier is a true option too (that means
+things easier to grasp, understand and update);
+ - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through
+the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not
+a must, just good to have;
+ - no more than 10 hours a week on Mageia.
+
+Questions:
+ - who's going to lead this?
+ - what's the plan up to Mageia 3? several things at least in several
+regards (identity, print, web, distribution), but that will highly
+depend on who lead(s) the team.
+
+[1] ideally, everything that's the public face of Mageia.Org, the
+Mageia distribution and the Mageia project should go through this
+team; that does not mean that things will not be flexible, but if
+there's one place to discuss, document and synchronize all this work,
+it's here. That, in turn, requires some responsiveness and initiative
+from the team members.
+_______________________________________________an
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <font face="Utopia">Sounds good to me.&nbsp; I would like to take on some
+ work especially concerning Marketing where it appears that we're
+ especially thin here.&nbsp; I feel that although the distrowatch
+ page-hits are high, there is not nearly enough of an overall web
+ presence.&nbsp; I think that Mageia has an especially good potential to
+ poach Ubunt/Mint users but the buzz just isn't there.&nbsp; I t</font>ried
+
+
+ to add some sites to the list in sandbox, but was denied
+ permission.&nbsp; Here are some sites I found:<br>
+ <br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.lifehacker.com/">http://www.lifehacker.com/</a>
+ Gawkers tech blog.&nbsp; Allot of entry level Linux users<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://linux.slashdot.org/">http://linux.slashdot.org/</a>
+ /EN - Very well known IT Blog<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.desktoplinuxreviews.com">http://www.desktoplinuxreviews.com</a>
+ /EN Linux reviews<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com</a>
+ /EN Linux/Informational<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.linuxbsdos.com">http://www.linuxbsdos.com</a>
+ /EN Linux Reviews<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="https://www.linuxquestions.org">https://www.linuxquestions.org</a>
+ /&nbsp; Linux/Informational<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia</a><br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.techradar.com">http://www.techradar.com</a>
+ /EN Tech News &amp; Info<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.gnu.org">https://www.gnu.org</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.linuxbasis.com/distributions.html">http://www.linuxbasis.com/distributions.html</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dedoimedo.com">http://www.dedoimedo.com</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.linuxinsider.com">http://www.linuxinsider.com</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.linuxjournal.com">http://www.linuxjournal.com</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://linuxos.pro">http://linuxos.pro</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.thisweekinlinux.com">http://www.thisweekinlinux.com</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ <br>
+ The one of these that I felt could really use some urgent attention
+ is Wikipedia.&nbsp; I know this committee/team is in a state of flux with
+ the merge and all but every day that goes by is a day further away
+ from its' release.&nbsp;&nbsp; I have my main contract winding down here so I
+ have some extra time.&nbsp; If perhaps someone either from this team or
+ maybe the document team has some approved language I could write a
+ proposal for a Wikipedia update.&nbsp; Let me know what everyone thinks.<br>
+ <br>
+ Kind Regards,<br>
+ <br>
+ Digigold<br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">--<br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<div dir="ltr"><blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">We should probably leave this discussion for now and focus on founding<br></blockquote>
+<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+the new group.<br><br></blockquote><div><br>I agree.<br>The way I see it we should have one group (never mind the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>The task forces will not be real, just a sort of legacy issue for people from the old teams to have some initial direction in the new team. Ideally, everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br>
+These three virtual task forces should, however, have a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of looking out for a specific field. Aside from that there should be a team leader, who should be one of the task force leaders.<br>
+This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure: Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other two what needs to be done for this by which task force, then one of these three (it doesn&#39;t really matter who) propagates that information back down to everybody else.<br>
+It will work the same way in reverse. The three coordinators come up with the final list of things that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input and discussion from everybody, of course) and then coordinate the tasks.<br>
+I think that this allows for maximum communication and we don&#39;t end up with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.<br>Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if in the end they are working alone, the whole group is aware of what is going on.<br>
+</div></div></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">We should probably leave this discussion for now and focus on founding<br></blockquote>
+<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+the new group.<br><br></blockquote><div><br>I agree.<br>The way I see it we should have one group (never mind the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>The task forces will not be real, just a sort of legacy issue for people from the old teams to have some initial direction in the new team. Ideally, everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br>
+These three virtual task forces should, however, have a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of looking out for a specific field. Aside from that there should be a team leader, who should be one of the task force leaders.<br>
+This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure: Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other two what needs to be done for this by which task force, then one of these three (it doesn&#39;t really matter who) propagates that information back down to everybody else.<br>
+It will work the same way in reverse. The three coordinators come up with the final list of things that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input and discussion from everybody, of course) and then coordinate the tasks.<br>
+I think that this allows for maximum communication and we don&#39;t end up with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.<br>Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if in the end they are working alone, the whole group is aware of what is going on.<br>
+</div></div></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Jonathan Ingold <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ingoldjo@gmail.com" target="_blank">ingoldjo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+
+
+ <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900"><div><div class="h5">
+ <div>On 06/17/2012 09:44 AM, Max
+ Quarterpleen wrote:<br>
+ </div>
+ </div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">
+ <div dir="ltr">So...<br>
+ Did this initiative die, or what?<br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Max
+ Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
+ wrote:<br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div>
+ <blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
+ We should probably leave this discussion for now and
+ focus on founding<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ the new group.<br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ I agree.<br>
+ The way I see it we should have one group (never mind
+ the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>
+ The task forces will not be real, just a sort of
+ legacy issue for people from the old teams to have
+ some initial direction in the new team. Ideally,
+ everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br>
+ These three virtual task forces should, however, have
+ a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of
+ looking out for a specific field. Aside from that
+ there should be a team leader, who should be one of
+ the task force leaders.<br>
+ This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure:
+ Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing
+ poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task
+ coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other
+ two what needs to be done for this by which task
+ force, then one of these three (it doesn&#39;t really
+ matter who) propagates that information back down to
+ everybody else.<br>
+ It will work the same way in reverse. The three
+ coordinators come up with the final list of things
+ that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input
+ and discussion from everybody, of course) and then
+ coordinate the tasks.<br>
+ I think that this allows for maximum communication and
+ we don&#39;t end up with the left hand not knowing what
+ the right hand is doing.<br>
+ Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come
+ up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot
+ and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if
+ in the end they are working alone, the whole group is
+ aware of what is going on.<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ </div></div><div class="im"><pre>_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </div></blockquote>
+ <font face="Utopia">So how bout someone with admin rights on
+ <a href="http://ml.mageia.org" target="_blank">ml.mageia.org</a> creates an atelier</font> or whatever list so we can
+ at least start this.<br></div></blockquote><div><br>It needs council approval first. That was supposed to happen last week but didn&#39;t, it might happen this week.<br>I just wanted to know if there was anything else people wanted to discuss some more.<br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ <br>
+ Also I have noticed that some people are adding their comments on
+ top like the very email I am responding to. Does Mageia prefer
+ top-adds or bottom adds?</div></blockquote><div><br>Mageia as a community prefers bottom or middle adds. I was just being lazy :P<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+ <br>
+ <div>-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>&quot;A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions.&quot;</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </font></span></div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Jonathan Ingold <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ingoldjo@gmail.com" target="_blank">ingoldjo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+
+
+ <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900"><div><div class="h5">
+ <div>On 06/17/2012 09:44 AM, Max
+ Quarterpleen wrote:<br>
+ </div>
+ </div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">
+ <div dir="ltr">So...<br>
+ Did this initiative die, or what?<br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Max
+ Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
+ wrote:<br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div>
+ <blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
+ We should probably leave this discussion for now and
+ focus on founding<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ the new group.<br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ I agree.<br>
+ The way I see it we should have one group (never mind
+ the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>
+ The task forces will not be real, just a sort of
+ legacy issue for people from the old teams to have
+ some initial direction in the new team. Ideally,
+ everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br>
+ These three virtual task forces should, however, have
+ a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of
+ looking out for a specific field. Aside from that
+ there should be a team leader, who should be one of
+ the task force leaders.<br>
+ This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure:
+ Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing
+ poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task
+ coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other
+ two what needs to be done for this by which task
+ force, then one of these three (it doesn&#39;t really
+ matter who) propagates that information back down to
+ everybody else.<br>
+ It will work the same way in reverse. The three
+ coordinators come up with the final list of things
+ that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input
+ and discussion from everybody, of course) and then
+ coordinate the tasks.<br>
+ I think that this allows for maximum communication and
+ we don&#39;t end up with the left hand not knowing what
+ the right hand is doing.<br>
+ Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come
+ up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot
+ and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if
+ in the end they are working alone, the whole group is
+ aware of what is going on.<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ </div></div><div class="im"><pre>_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </div></blockquote>
+ <font face="Utopia">So how bout someone with admin rights on
+ <a href="http://ml.mageia.org" target="_blank">ml.mageia.org</a> creates an atelier</font> or whatever list so we can
+ at least start this.<br></div></blockquote><div><br>It needs council approval first. That was supposed to happen last week but didn&#39;t, it might happen this week.<br>I just wanted to know if there was anything else people wanted to discuss some more.<br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ <br>
+ Also I have noticed that some people are adding their comments on
+ top like the very email I am responding to. Does Mageia prefer
+ top-adds or bottom adds?</div></blockquote><div><br>Mageia as a community prefers bottom or middle adds. I was just being lazy :P<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+ <br>
+ <div>-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>&quot;A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions.&quot;</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </font></span></div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/17/2012 09:44 AM, Max
+ Quarterpleen wrote:<br>
+ </div>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=KyiX89JnaUWT+o8Q7VvuWOWoGFsbpe=BfDRge=vtfPYX9Q@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">So...<br>
+ Did this initiative die, or what?<br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Max
+ Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
+ wrote:<br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
+ .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="im">
+ <blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
+ We should probably leave this discussion for now and
+ focus on founding<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
+ .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ the new group.<br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ I agree.<br>
+ The way I see it we should have one group (never mind
+ the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>
+ The task forces will not be real, just a sort of
+ legacy issue for people from the old teams to have
+ some initial direction in the new team. Ideally,
+ everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br>
+ These three virtual task forces should, however, have
+ a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of
+ looking out for a specific field. Aside from that
+ there should be a team leader, who should be one of
+ the task force leaders.<br>
+ This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure:
+ Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing
+ poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task
+ coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other
+ two what needs to be done for this by which task
+ force, then one of these three (it doesn't really
+ matter who) propagates that information back down to
+ everybody else.<br>
+ It will work the same way in reverse. The three
+ coordinators come up with the final list of things
+ that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input
+ and discussion from everybody, of course) and then
+ coordinate the tasks.<br>
+ I think that this allows for maximum communication and
+ we don't end up with the left hand not knowing what
+ the right hand is doing.<br>
+ Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come
+ up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot
+ and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if
+ in the end they are working alone, the whole group is
+ aware of what is going on.<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <font face="Utopia">So how bout someone with admin rights on
+ ml.mageia.org creates an atelier</font> or whatever list so we can
+ at least start this.<br>
+ <br>
+ Also I have noticed that some people are adding their comments on
+ top like the very email I am responding to.&nbsp; Does Mageia prefer
+ top-adds or bottom adds?<br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/17/2012 09:44 AM, Max
+ Quarterpleen wrote:<br>
+ </div>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=KyiX89JnaUWT+o8Q7VvuWOWoGFsbpe=BfDRge=vtfPYX9Q@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">So...<br>
+ Did this initiative die, or what?<br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Max
+ Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
+ wrote:<br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
+ .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="im">
+ <blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
+ We should probably leave this discussion for now and
+ focus on founding<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
+ .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ the new group.<br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ I agree.<br>
+ The way I see it we should have one group (never mind
+ the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>
+ The task forces will not be real, just a sort of
+ legacy issue for people from the old teams to have
+ some initial direction in the new team. Ideally,
+ everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br>
+ These three virtual task forces should, however, have
+ a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of
+ looking out for a specific field. Aside from that
+ there should be a team leader, who should be one of
+ the task force leaders.<br>
+ This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure:
+ Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing
+ poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task
+ coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other
+ two what needs to be done for this by which task
+ force, then one of these three (it doesn't really
+ matter who) propagates that information back down to
+ everybody else.<br>
+ It will work the same way in reverse. The three
+ coordinators come up with the final list of things
+ that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input
+ and discussion from everybody, of course) and then
+ coordinate the tasks.<br>
+ I think that this allows for maximum communication and
+ we don't end up with the left hand not knowing what
+ the right hand is doing.<br>
+ Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come
+ up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot
+ and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if
+ in the end they are working alone, the whole group is
+ aware of what is going on.<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <font face="Utopia">So how bout someone with admin rights on
+ ml.mageia.org creates an atelier</font> or whatever list so we can
+ at least start this.<br>
+ <br>
+ Also I have noticed that some people are adding their comments on
+ top like the very email I am responding to.&nbsp; Does Mageia prefer
+ top-adds or bottom adds?<br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<div dir="ltr">So...<br>Did this initiative die, or what?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Max Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="im"><blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
+We should probably leave this discussion for now and focus on founding<br></blockquote>
+</div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+the new group.<br><br></blockquote><div><br>I agree.<br>The way I see it we should have one group (never mind the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>The task forces will not be real, just a sort of legacy issue for people from the old teams to have some initial direction in the new team. Ideally, everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br>
+
+These three virtual task forces should, however, have a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of looking out for a specific field. Aside from that there should be a team leader, who should be one of the task force leaders.<br>
+
+This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure: Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other two what needs to be done for this by which task force, then one of these three (it doesn&#39;t really matter who) propagates that information back down to everybody else.<br>
+
+It will work the same way in reverse. The three coordinators come up with the final list of things that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input and discussion from everybody, of course) and then coordinate the tasks.<br>
+
+I think that this allows for maximum communication and we don&#39;t end up with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.<br>Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if in the end they are working alone, the whole group is aware of what is going on.<br>
+
+</div></div></div>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">So...<br>Did this initiative die, or what?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Max Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="im"><blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
+We should probably leave this discussion for now and focus on founding<br></blockquote>
+</div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+the new group.<br><br></blockquote><div><br>I agree.<br>The way I see it we should have one group (never mind the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>The task forces will not be real, just a sort of legacy issue for people from the old teams to have some initial direction in the new team. Ideally, everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br>
+
+These three virtual task forces should, however, have a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of looking out for a specific field. Aside from that there should be a team leader, who should be one of the task force leaders.<br>
+
+This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure: Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other two what needs to be done for this by which task force, then one of these three (it doesn&#39;t really matter who) propagates that information back down to everybody else.<br>
+
+It will work the same way in reverse. The three coordinators come up with the final list of things that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input and discussion from everybody, of course) and then coordinate the tasks.<br>
+
+I think that this allows for maximum communication and we don&#39;t end up with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.<br>Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if in the end they are working alone, the whole group is aware of what is going on.<br>
+
+</div></div></div>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ Bonjour Patricia,<br>
+ <br>
+ Le 2012-06-21 06:16, Patricia Fraser a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120621201642.00004014@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Would anyone who is interested in continuing to do marketing,
+communication, artwork or web-presence related work for Mageia, please
+subscribe to the atelier-discuss list?
+
+The Atelier team will be taking over from Marcom, Artwork and Webteam,
+and the current lists will be closed after a while.
+
+You need to have a Mageia identity registered before you join the
+atelier-discuss list; once you have that, go here to join:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</a>
+
+See you there!
+
+</pre>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Where do I log in to join the mailing list? There does not seem to
+ be a log-in window. I think there is supposed to be a link to the
+ log-in page. <br>
+ <br>
+ Could you also please update the sentence that appears when you
+ click on "Subscribe"? it reads:<br>
+ <br>
+ "In order to subscribe to the list, you should open a account on <a
+ href="http://identity.mageia.org/">our account system.</a>.<br>
+ If you already have one, please log using your account in order to
+ subscribe."<br>
+ <br>
+ It should say:<br>
+ <br>
+ "In order to subscribe to the list, you should open a account on <a
+ href="http://identity.mageia.org/">our account system.</a>.<br>
+ If you already have one, please log-in using your account in order
+ to subscribe."<br>
+ <br>
+ Also, on the Mageia site, the mailing list does not appear to be on
+ "Marcom" team page which still encourages people to join the
+ "mageia-marketing" list.<br>
+ <br>
+ Cheers,<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ <br>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
+Marc Par&eacute;
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Marc@MarcPare.com">Marc@MarcPare.com</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</a>
+parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+parEntreprise.com Supports <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</a></pre>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ Bonjour Patricia,<br>
+ <br>
+ Le 2012-06-21 06:16, Patricia Fraser a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120621201642.00004014@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Would anyone who is interested in continuing to do marketing,
+communication, artwork or web-presence related work for Mageia, please
+subscribe to the atelier-discuss list?
+
+The Atelier team will be taking over from Marcom, Artwork and Webteam,
+and the current lists will be closed after a while.
+
+You need to have a Mageia identity registered before you join the
+atelier-discuss list; once you have that, go here to join:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</a>
+
+See you there!
+
+</pre>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Where do I log in to join the mailing list? There does not seem to
+ be a log-in window. I think there is supposed to be a link to the
+ log-in page. <br>
+ <br>
+ Could you also please update the sentence that appears when you
+ click on "Subscribe"? it reads:<br>
+ <br>
+ "In order to subscribe to the list, you should open a account on <a
+ href="http://identity.mageia.org/">our account system.</a>.<br>
+ If you already have one, please log using your account in order to
+ subscribe."<br>
+ <br>
+ It should say:<br>
+ <br>
+ "In order to subscribe to the list, you should open a account on <a
+ href="http://identity.mageia.org/">our account system.</a>.<br>
+ If you already have one, please log-in using your account in order
+ to subscribe."<br>
+ <br>
+ Also, on the Mageia site, the mailing list does not appear to be on
+ "Marcom" team page which still encourages people to join the
+ "mageia-marketing" list.<br>
+ <br>
+ Cheers,<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ <br>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
+Marc Par&eacute;
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Marc@MarcPare.com">Marc@MarcPare.com</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</a>
+parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+parEntreprise.com Supports <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</a></pre>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ Hi Patricia,<br>
+ <br>
+ Le 2012-06-21 06:16, Patricia Fraser a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120621201642.00004014@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Would anyone who is interested in continuing to do marketing,
+communication, artwork or web-presence related work for Mageia, please
+subscribe to the atelier-discuss list?
+
+The Atelier team will be taking over from Marcom, Artwork and Webteam,
+and the current lists will be closed after a while.
+
+You need to have a Mageia identity registered before you join the
+atelier-discuss list; once you have that, go here to join:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</a>
+
+See you there!
+
+</pre>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I also forgot to ask if the list will be added to Gmane? <br>
+ <br>
+ Cheers,<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
+Marc Par&eacute;
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Marc@MarcPare.com">Marc@MarcPare.com</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</a>
+parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+parEntreprise.com Supports <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</a></pre>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ Hi Patricia,<br>
+ <br>
+ Le 2012-06-21 06:16, Patricia Fraser a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120621201642.00004014@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Would anyone who is interested in continuing to do marketing,
+communication, artwork or web-presence related work for Mageia, please
+subscribe to the atelier-discuss list?
+
+The Atelier team will be taking over from Marcom, Artwork and Webteam,
+and the current lists will be closed after a while.
+
+You need to have a Mageia identity registered before you join the
+atelier-discuss list; once you have that, go here to join:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</a>
+
+See you there!
+
+</pre>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I also forgot to ask if the list will be added to Gmane? <br>
+ <br>
+ Cheers,<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
+Marc Par&eacute;
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Marc@MarcPare.com">Marc@MarcPare.com</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</a>
+parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+parEntreprise.com Supports <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</a></pre>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ Hi Patricia<br>
+ <br>
+ Le 2012-06-21 06:16, Patricia Fraser a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120621201642.00004014@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Would anyone who is interested in continuing to do marketing,
+communication, artwork or web-presence related work for Mageia, please
+subscribe to the atelier-discuss list?
+
+The Atelier team will be taking over from Marcom, Artwork and Webteam,
+and the current lists will be closed after a while.
+
+You need to have a Mageia identity registered before you join the
+atelier-discuss list; once you have that, go here to join:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</a>
+
+See you there!
+
+</pre>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ My apologies. I had a "Duh" moment and now see the login at the top
+ of the page.<br>
+ <br>
+ Sorry,<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ <br>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
+Marc Par&eacute;
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Marc@MarcPare.com">Marc@MarcPare.com</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</a>
+parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+parEntreprise.com Supports <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</a></pre>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ Hi Patricia<br>
+ <br>
+ Le 2012-06-21 06:16, Patricia Fraser a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120621201642.00004014@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Would anyone who is interested in continuing to do marketing,
+communication, artwork or web-presence related work for Mageia, please
+subscribe to the atelier-discuss list?
+
+The Atelier team will be taking over from Marcom, Artwork and Webteam,
+and the current lists will be closed after a while.
+
+You need to have a Mageia identity registered before you join the
+atelier-discuss list; once you have that, go here to join:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</a>
+
+See you there!
+
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+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ My apologies. I had a "Duh" moment and now see the login at the top
+ of the page.<br>
+ <br>
+ Sorry,<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
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+.mobile-email{ display: none; }
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+.desktop-email{ display: none; }
+.mobile-email{ display: block; }
+ *[class].responsive {
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+ <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial;" width="100%" bgcolor="#F4F4F4"><tr><td align="center">
+
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+
+<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial;" width="550">
+ <tr><td>
+ <table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:10px;font-size:10px;line-height:10px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>
+ </td></tr>
+ <tr><td align="left">
+ <img src="http://www.linkedin.com/scds/common/u/img/logos/logo_emails_trans_98x24.png" alt="LinkedIn" border="0" height="24" width="98">
+ </td></tr>
+ <tr><td>
+ <table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:10px;font-size:10px;line-height:10px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>
+ </td></tr>
+</table>
+
+<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial;border:solid 1px #DDDDDD;-moz-border-radius:5px;-webkit-border-radius:5px;border-radius:5px;" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" width="550"><tr><td colspan="3"><table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:15px;font-size:15px;line-height:15px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td width="1%"><table width="15" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:0px;font-size:0px;line-height:0px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td><td width="98%" valign="top" align="">
+ <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial;" width="100%">
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px">
+ <div>
+ <b style="font-size:16px;margin-right:12px">De Otto S&#xe1;</b>
+ </div>
+ <table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:6px;font-size:6px;line-height:6px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>
+ <div style="color:#666666">Professor de Legisla&#xe7;&#xe3;o ambiental na FAETEC</div>
+ <div style="color:#666666">Brasil</div>
+ <table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="border:1px dotted #DDDDDD;border-width:1px 0">
+ <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial;background:#F2FAFF;width:100%" >
+ <tr><td colspan="3"><table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:4px;font-size:4px;line-height:4px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td></tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td><table width="5" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:0px;font-size:0px;line-height:0px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td>
+ <td style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px">
+ <p>
+ Mageia,<br/>
+<br/>
+Eu gostaria de adicioná-lo à minha rede profissional no LinkedIn.<br/>
+-Otto
+ </p>
+ </td>
+ <td><table width="5" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:0px;font-size:0px;line-height:0px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr><td colspan="3"><table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:5px;font-size:5px;line-height:5px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td></tr>
+ </table>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td>
+ <table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:12px;font-size:12px;line-height:12px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" align=""><tr><td align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#FFE86C" background="http://www.linkedin.com/scds/common/u/img/bg/yellow_button_back.png" style="background:url(http://www.linkedin.com/scds/common/u/img/bg/yellow_button_back.png) repeat-x scroll 100% 0 #FFE86C;background-color:#FFE86C;border:1px solid #E8B463;-moz-border-radius:4px;-webkit-border-radius:4px;border-radius:4px;"><div style="padding-right:10px;padding-left:10px;"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/e/-9bzp37-h5eo8x6f-22/isd/8095516244/DoadsVeY/?hs=false&amp;tok=3IGe9XTza5Olk1" style="text-decoration:none;"><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#333333;white-space:nowrap;display:block;">Confirme que você conhece Otto</span></a></div></td></tr></table>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </table>
+</td><td width="1%"><table width="15" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:0px;font-size:0px;line-height:0px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td colspan="3"><table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:15px;font-size:15px;line-height:15px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td></tr></table>
+<table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:5px;font-size:5px;line-height:5px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>
+<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial;width:550px" >
+ <tr>
+ <td style="color:#999;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:11px;line-height:15px">
+ <div>Você está recebendo convites de conexão por e-mail. <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/e/-9bzp37-h5eo8x6f-22/qAa3RxDQ_knAe50b4XCGUJNkpqUYGR_QEA6Ayj9G7c/goo/mageia-marketing%40mageia%2Eorg/20061/I2728487271_1/?hs=false&amp;tok=0ZnK2jB3S5Olk1">Cancelar inscrição</a></div>
+ <div>&copy; 2012, LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct. Mountain View, CA 94043, USA<table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:1px;font-size:1px;line-height:1px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></div>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+</table>
+
+
+
+ </td></tr></table>
+
+
+
+<img src="http://www.linkedin.com/emimp/-9bzp37-h5eo8x6f-22.gif" style="width:1px; height:1px;"/></body>
+ </html> \ No newline at end of file
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+ <style type="text/css">
+ html {-webkit-text-size-adjust:none;}
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+.mobile-email{ display: none; }
+.ReadMsgBody {width: 100%;}
+.ExternalClass {width: 100%;}
+@media all and (max-width: 590px) {
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+ <tr><td>
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+ </td></tr>
+ <tr><td align="left">
+ <img src="http://www.linkedin.com/scds/common/u/img/logos/logo_emails_trans_98x24.png" alt="LinkedIn" border="0" height="24" width="98">
+ </td></tr>
+ <tr><td>
+ <table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:10px;font-size:10px;line-height:10px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>
+ </td></tr>
+</table>
+
+<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial;border:solid 1px #DDDDDD;-moz-border-radius:5px;-webkit-border-radius:5px;border-radius:5px;" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" width="550"><tr><td colspan="3"><table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:15px;font-size:15px;line-height:15px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td width="1%"><table width="15" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:0px;font-size:0px;line-height:0px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td><td width="98%" valign="top" align="">
+ <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial;" width="100%">
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px">
+ <div>
+ <b style="font-size:16px;margin-right:12px">De Otto S&#xe1;</b>
+ </div>
+ <table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:6px;font-size:6px;line-height:6px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>
+ <div style="color:#666666">Professor de Legisla&#xe7;&#xe3;o ambiental na FAETEC</div>
+ <div style="color:#666666">Brasil</div>
+ <table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="border:1px dotted #DDDDDD;border-width:1px 0">
+ <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial;background:#F2FAFF;width:100%" >
+ <tr><td colspan="3"><table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:4px;font-size:4px;line-height:4px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td></tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td><table width="5" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:0px;font-size:0px;line-height:0px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td>
+ <td style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px">
+ <p>
+ Mageia,<br/>
+<br/>
+Eu gostaria de adicioná-lo à minha rede profissional no LinkedIn.<br/>
+-Otto
+ </p>
+ </td>
+ <td><table width="5" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:0px;font-size:0px;line-height:0px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr><td colspan="3"><table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:5px;font-size:5px;line-height:5px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td></tr>
+ </table>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td>
+ <table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:12px;font-size:12px;line-height:12px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" align=""><tr><td align="center" valign="middle" bgcolor="#FFE86C" background="http://www.linkedin.com/scds/common/u/img/bg/yellow_button_back.png" style="background:url(http://www.linkedin.com/scds/common/u/img/bg/yellow_button_back.png) repeat-x scroll 100% 0 #FFE86C;background-color:#FFE86C;border:1px solid #E8B463;-moz-border-radius:4px;-webkit-border-radius:4px;border-radius:4px;"><div style="padding-right:10px;padding-left:10px;"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/e/-9bzp37-h5eo8x6f-22/isd/8095516244/DoadsVeY/?hs=false&amp;tok=3IGe9XTza5Olk1" style="text-decoration:none;"><span style="font-size:12px;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#333333;white-space:nowrap;display:block;">Confirme que você conhece Otto</span></a></div></td></tr></table>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ </table>
+</td><td width="1%"><table width="15" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:0px;font-size:0px;line-height:0px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td colspan="3"><table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:15px;font-size:15px;line-height:15px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td></tr></table>
+<table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:5px;font-size:5px;line-height:5px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>
+<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial;width:550px" >
+ <tr>
+ <td style="color:#999;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:11px;line-height:15px">
+ <div>Você está recebendo convites de conexão por e-mail. <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/e/-9bzp37-h5eo8x6f-22/qAa3RxDQ_knAe50b4XCGUJNkpqUYGR_QEA6Ayj9G7c/goo/mageia-marketing%40mageia%2Eorg/20061/I2728487271_1/?hs=false&amp;tok=0ZnK2jB3S5Olk1">Cancelar inscrição</a></div>
+ <div>&copy; 2012, LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct. Mountain View, CA 94043, USA<table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:1px;font-size:1px;line-height:1px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></div>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+</table>
+
+
+
+ </td></tr></table>
+
+
+
+<img src="http://www.linkedin.com/emimp/-9bzp37-h5eo8x6f-22.gif" style="width:1px; height:1px;"/></body>
+ </html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><div>Good morning,</div><div><br></div><div style="background-color: transparent; ">my name is Jrg Stephan and i am an 33 years old systemadministrator from Germany (Saarland), i mostly work with Debian, Ubuntu and SUSE servers. Last weekend i tried mageia in private and i really like what i see. So i would like to help if i can and donate some time to help making mageia better (if i can).</div><div style="background-color: transparent; "><br></div><div style="background-color: transparent; ">Kind regards</div><div style="background-color: transparent; "><br></div><div style="background-color: transparent; ">Jrg</div></div></div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><div>Good morning,</div><div><br></div><div style="background-color: transparent; ">my name is Jrg Stephan and i am an 33 years old systemadministrator from Germany (Saarland), i mostly work with Debian, Ubuntu and SUSE servers. Last weekend i tried mageia in private and i really like what i see. So i would like to help if i can and donate some time to help making mageia better (if i can).</div><div style="background-color: transparent; "><br></div><div style="background-color: transparent; ">Kind regards</div><div style="background-color: transparent; "><br></div><div style="background-color: transparent; ">Jrg</div></div></div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Joerg Stephan <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:johe.stephan@ymail.com" target="_blank">johe.stephan@ymail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><div>Good morning,</div><div><br></div><div style="background-color:transparent">my name is Jrg Stephan and i am an 33 years old systemadministrator from Germany (Saarland), i mostly work with Debian, Ubuntu and SUSE servers. Last weekend i tried mageia in private and i really like what i see. So i would like to help if i can and donate some time to help making mageia better (if i can).</div>
+<div style="background-color:transparent"><br></div><div style="background-color:transparent">Kind regards</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Good morning Jrg!<br>Welcome to Mageia!<br>A few months ago the Marketing team merged with the Artwork and Web teams (due to similar goals and much working together) to form the new Atelier team.<br>
+You can subscribe to the mailing list here: <a href="https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/atelier-discuss</a><br>The IRC channel we use is #mageia-atelier on Freenode.<br>
+We&#39;re very glad to see that you like Mageia, and welcome any contribution you can offer.<br>Max<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><div style="background-color:transparent"><br></div><div style="background-color:transparent">Jrg</div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Joerg Stephan <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:johe.stephan@ymail.com" target="_blank">johe.stephan@ymail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><div>Good morning,</div><div><br></div><div style="background-color:transparent">my name is Jrg Stephan and i am an 33 years old systemadministrator from Germany (Saarland), i mostly work with Debian, Ubuntu and SUSE servers. Last weekend i tried mageia in private and i really like what i see. So i would like to help if i can and donate some time to help making mageia better (if i can).</div>
+<div style="background-color:transparent"><br></div><div style="background-color:transparent">Kind regards</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Good morning Jrg!<br>Welcome to Mageia!<br>A few months ago the Marketing team merged with the Artwork and Web teams (due to similar goals and much working together) to form the new Atelier team.<br>
+You can subscribe to the mailing list here: <a href="https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/atelier-discuss</a><br>The IRC channel we use is #mageia-atelier on Freenode.<br>
+We&#39;re very glad to see that you like Mageia, and welcome any contribution you can offer.<br>Max<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><div style="background-color:transparent"><br></div><div style="background-color:transparent">Jrg</div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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