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   <H1>[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web =&gt; atelier ?</H1>
    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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    <I>Mon Jun 18 16:56:11 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>On Mon, 18 Jun 2012, Marcello wrote:

&gt;<i> Il 18/06/2012 15:49, Romain d'Alverny ha scritto:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Marcello&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;  wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ok for this, but for marketing team what is needed is not a new ml, but real
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> marketing objectives and people dedicated to them. what should do a
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> marketing team is not (at least, only) writing blog post announces and
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> things like that, but planning:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - marketing-plan
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - balanced scorecard
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Among other things yes. Just propose and see if it can build from there.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> ok, i will start a thread there asking to devs if there is someone who 
</I>&gt;<i> wants to follow marketing team plans... here is there anyone who is able to 
</I>&gt;<i> contribute regarding this?
</I>
Before asking people to follow marketing team plans, those plans
should exist.

&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in plus, we need people from dev and artwork that follow our suggestions and
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> our plans (naturally, the plans should be agreed also by them). i can help
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in these areas of long-term view, i cannot follow tasks that should be done
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in a day.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But that's a problem. If you can't lead, follow or make things here,
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you're out of phase.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> i don't want lead, i would simply contributing in what a marketing team is 
</I>&gt;<i> expected to do.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Bugzilla 4 is a perfect example of what should do a marketing team (atelier,
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> if you prefer) for real. Bugzilla would help qa team work, would improve the
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> overall quality of the distro and would allow to manage bugs that affect
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> different versions, but instead of porting it, we're at mageia 3 specs...
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> useless
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Useless to you, from your point of view. Not useless to everyone.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> not useless in the short-term, useless in a long-term horizont. if you 
</I>&gt;<i> don't have a long sight, you resolve small issues as they verify, missing 
</I>&gt;<i> the real things that should be done to assure the success in the long 
</I>&gt;<i> period. bugzilla is one of this: now everyone is involved in proposing new 
</I>&gt;<i> feauture that will improve the distro, but there is a single tool that 
</I>&gt;<i> influence many aspects that isn't taken in consideration
</I>
Bugzilla upgrade is already planned, but it has nothing to do with new
feature proposals or marketing, and is not something that will &quot;assure
the success in the long period&quot;, it's just one of the many tools we use
to create the distribution.

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