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<H1>[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web => atelier ?</H1>
<B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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<I>Mon Jun 11 11:01:58 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Romain d'Alverny <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>>wrote:
><i> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Max Quarterpleen <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>>
</I>><i> wrote:
</I>><i> > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Romain d'Alverny <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>>
</I>><i> >> - this team is named "atelier";
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > My French is a little rusty. Does that mean "workshop"?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Yes.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > Who came up with that name?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Doesn't matter. It's just picked to have something.
</I>><i>
</I>
OK, sounds good.
><i>
</I>><i> > How is it pronounced?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> /a.tə.lje/ see <A HREF="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier</A>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > And why? (I personally was starting to like webartcom)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> webartcom is reductive - and ugly.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> >> - a new mailing-list is open for that;
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Are all participants of -marcom, -web and -artwork automatically
</I>><i> subscribed
</I>><i> > to this new list? What is the address? (So I can create a new mail
</I>><i> filter)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> This list is not registered yet. All participants will have to
</I>><i> subscribe, an update message stating each former list being closed and
</I>><i> directions to subscribe to the new list will be sent.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> >> - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but
</I>><i> >> locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > When will this happen?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> As soon as 3 or 4 people can agree on a plan and there's no large
</I>><i> objection from others, and Council validates it. A good time would be
</I>><i> by the end of this week.
</I>><i>
</I>
Count me in. I don't know how much I'll be able to help, I've got a lot
going in in meatspace now, but I really do want to see things moving along
on this.
What kind of plan do we need? (Maybe start that in a new thread?)
><i>
</I>><i> >> - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making
</I>><i> >> and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,
</I>><i> >> graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still
</I>><i> >> welcome, but not enough to move forward;
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > So, sort of a reward for participating? Interesting.... but might not
</I>><i> work.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Then what would you suggest that would work better?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Here it's not a reward; it's a right, if you participate/make things
</I>><i> or if you're included by the team peers; and it's how it happens in
</I>><i> other teams (packagers, dev, sysadmin, qa, i18n, etc.
</I>><i>
</I>
Yes, I can see that. But part of the problem that we've had recently is
with people not contributing.
It's fine to say "If you contribute then you get a say in what happens" but
if nobody is contributing....
I can't really think of any alternative, since it is a very good way to do
things.
I'm just a little concerned about people not contributing.
><i>
</I>><i> >> - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer
</I>><i> >> getting in touch/inviting a professional person [...]
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > I think iamoverrated has already started doing this with a graphic
</I>><i> designer.
</I>><i> > I'm not sure on the details, we've been playing IRC tag for a week or
</I>><i> so...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Oh, that's great then. That would be even greater that details (what
</I>><i> work, what scope, when, how, etc.) and progress are posted on this
</I>><i> list so that things are not wasted or duplicated in the end.
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>I'll ping him and see what he can tell us.
><i> >> - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from
</I>><i> >> external people are made easier is a true option too (that means
</I>><i> >> things easier to grasp, understand and update);
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > How?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I don't know. At this time, I only can find GitHub's "fork and pull"
</I>><i> way very inspiring
</I>><i> (<A HREF="https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests">https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests</A>) + more
</I>><i> documentation on how/why things are as they are.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> >> - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through
</I>><i> >> the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not
</I>><i> >> a must, just good to have;
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Where will we be hanging out? New channel? One of the existing channels?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> We'll see. "No meeting" policy doesn't prevent from chatting, hopefully :-p
</I>><i>
</I>
Indeed.
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