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<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Romain d'Alverny <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Max Quarterpleen <<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Romain d'Alverny <<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>><br>
</div><div class="im">>> - this team is named "atelier";<br>
><br>
> My French is a little rusty. Does that mean "workshop"?<br>
<br>
</div>Yes.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Who came up with that name?<br>
<br>
</div>Doesn't matter. It's just picked to have something.<br></blockquote><div><br>OK, sounds good.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
> How is it pronounced?<br>
<br>
/a.tə.lje/ see <a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier" target="_blank">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier</a><br>
<div class="im"><br>
> And why? (I personally was starting to like webartcom)<br>
<br>
</div>webartcom is reductive - and ugly.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
>> - a new mailing-list is open for that;<br>
><br>
> Are all participants of -marcom, -web and -artwork automatically subscribed<br>
> to this new list? What is the address? (So I can create a new mail filter)<br>
<br>
</div>This list is not registered yet. All participants will have to<br>
subscribe, an update message stating each former list being closed and<br>
directions to subscribe to the new list will be sent.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
>> - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but<br>
>> locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;<br>
><br>
> When will this happen?<br>
<br>
</div>As soon as 3 or 4 people can agree on a plan and there's no large<br>
objection from others, and Council validates it. A good time would be<br>
by the end of this week.<br></blockquote><div><br>Count me in. I don't know how much I'll be able to help, I've got a lot going in in meatspace now, but I really do want to see things moving along on this.<br>
What kind of plan do we need? (Maybe start that in a new thread?)<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im"><br>
>> - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making<br>
>> and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,<br>
>> graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still<br>
>> welcome, but not enough to move forward;<br>
><br>
> So, sort of a reward for participating? Interesting.... but might not work.<br>
<br>
</div>Then what would you suggest that would work better?<br>
<br>
Here it's not a reward; it's a right, if you participate/make things<br>
or if you're included by the team peers; and it's how it happens in<br>
other teams (packagers, dev, sysadmin, qa, i18n, etc.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yes, I can see that. But part of the problem that we've had recently is with people not contributing.<br>It's fine to say "If you contribute then you get a say in what happens" but if nobody is contributing....<br>
I can't really think of any alternative, since it is a very good way to do things.<br>I'm just a little concerned about people not contributing.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im"><br>
>> - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer<br>
</div>>> getting in touch/inviting a professional person [...]<br>
<div class="im">><br>
> I think iamoverrated has already started doing this with a graphic designer.<br>
> I'm not sure on the details, we've been playing IRC tag for a week or so...<br>
<br>
</div>Oh, that's great then. That would be even greater that details (what<br>
work, what scope, when, how, etc.) and progress are posted on this<br>
list so that things are not wasted or duplicated in the end.<br>
<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div><br>I'll ping him and see what he can tell us.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">
>> - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from<br>
>> external people are made easier is a true option too (that means<br>
>> things easier to grasp, understand and update);<br>
><br>
> How?<br>
<br>
</div>I don't know. At this time, I only can find GitHub's "fork and pull"<br>
way very inspiring<br>
(<a href="https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests" target="_blank">https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests</a>) + more<br>
documentation on how/why things are as they are.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
>> - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through<br>
>> the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not<br>
>> a must, just good to have;<br>
><br>
> Where will we be hanging out? New channel? One of the existing channels?<br>
<br>
</div>We'll see. "No meeting" policy doesn't prevent from chatting, hopefully :-p<br></blockquote><div><br>Indeed.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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