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    <B>Marcello</B> 
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    <I>Mon Jun 18 19:24:52 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>Il 18/06/2012 17:34, Romain d'Alverny ha scritto:
&gt;<i> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Marcello&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;  wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ok, i will start a thread there asking to devs if there is someone who wants
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to follow marketing team plans...
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> It doesn't work like that (and you've been told this several times in
</I>&gt;<i> the past years). You won't find people that will follow on principle.
</I>&gt;<i> You will need to convince/demonstrate that your plan is worth it, and
</I>&gt;<i> start it on your own first. And you will see as many people join as
</I>&gt;<i> they see their own interest in contributing.
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the plan has to been promoted by mageia.org to have the proability to 
have a minimum of success. and to complete the plan it is necessary to 
have the partecipation of many people, because i don't have many skills 
needed to complete it.
&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here is there anyone who is able to contribute regarding this?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Don't wait. Start, propose, do. And see if it gains momentum.
</I>
the problem is that i can only propose because i study economics, not 
information technology. if you read my commments 
(<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40</A>) is what i'm doing since 
mageia born, but i don't think i'm quite useful except for filling some bugs



&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> different versions, but instead of porting it, we're at mageia 3 specs...
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> useless
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Unless you can't embrace the whole thing, you can't even start
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> thinking about a marketing plan.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ehm... what do you mean with this prashe?
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> It means that, in addition to a vision, if you don't have an
</I>&gt;<i> understanding of the small pieces and of the people that make this
</I>&gt;<i> project and of the reasons they do it, designing a marketing plan for
</I>&gt;<i> the project is a waste of time. For the same reason as above.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> If you want to contribute, start with something small here (your own
</I>&gt;<i> idea, or one need already expressed), define it, advocate it and build
</I>&gt;<i> it. And repeat.
</I>
as above, it's what i'm doing since a lot of time (do you remember the 
critics i made in the MUGS of mandriva? after a few years they 
understood they're wrong and they are  re-implementing something like 
this). the marketing plan is not a waste of time, but it has to be 
shared among all the mageia community, unless it looses the elements 
that makes it a key tool for all the major companies in the world: 
coherence, long-time view, short-time approach, priorities and coherent 
actions.


cheers,
Marcello
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