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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000609.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000609.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6b0b92501 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000609.html @@ -0,0 +1,56 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Google%2C%20yahoo%2C%20Hotmail%20and%20Flickr%20accounts&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimO9mMWstNDfCOvHRy110_Hm5YfHKh0_nGdVuqL%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000611.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts</H1> + <B>atilla ontas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Google%2C%20yahoo%2C%20Hotmail%20and%20Flickr%20accounts&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimO9mMWstNDfCOvHRy110_Hm5YfHKh0_nGdVuqL%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts">tarakbumba at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 00:01:43 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000611.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] pronounciation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#609">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#609">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#609">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#609">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Wobo im not offended. As i told it differs law to law, it may be a +problem in Turkey if hosted here... +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000611.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] pronounciation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#609">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#609">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#609">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#609">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000611.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000611.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e03ea52b8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000611.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [OT] pronounciation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BOT%5D%20pronounciation&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922000635.5659a58e%40excalibur.kollektiv-hamburg.de%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000609.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000612.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [OT] pronounciation</H1> + <B>Jochen Schönfelder</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BOT%5D%20pronounciation&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922000635.5659a58e%40excalibur.kollektiv-hamburg.de%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [OT] pronounciation">arisel at arisel.de + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 00:06:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000612.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#611">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#611">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#611">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#611">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Ahoi! + +On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:53:15 +0200 +Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> 2010/9/21 P. Christeas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">p_christ at hol.gr</A>>: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > With a little remark there: mp3 had not been invented back at those times, +</I>><i> > so nobody really knows what Hellenic ("greek"[1] ) sounded back in past. So +</I>><i> > we presume that modern greek is the closest to the ancient language's +</I>><i> > pronounciation [2]. +</I> +Sorry to comment on this, and please don't nobody start a flame on this, +but as I'm living in an area of the world where this argument obviously isn't +true, I'd like to give some background on this: + +- I'm a German native speaker, where the pronunciation sounds like *well* + German :) +- the "old dialect" which is a form of "Plattdeutsch" here sounds way more close + to English for certain letters. + +The discussion of pronunciation of ancient Greek seems rather lengthy to me, +but those two links suggest that there also might be several changes in +pronunciation during the last few thousand years, as is the case also in most +other languages: + +- <A HREF="http://www.foundalis.com/lan/grkalpha.htm">http://www.foundalis.com/lan/grkalpha.htm</A> +- <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_phonology#Onomatopoeic_words">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_phonology#Onomatopoeic_words</A> + +So.. just let everyone pronounce it as he thinks.. :) (as already suggested +elsewhere :) + + +cheers! :) + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000612.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#611">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#611">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#611">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#611">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000612.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000612.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bd0c4c753 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000612.html @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Google%2C%20yahoo%2C%20Hotmail%20and%20Flickr%20accounts&In-Reply-To=%3C201009220013.28383.fredux86%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000611.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000616.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts</H1> + <B>Frédéric CUIF</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Google%2C%20yahoo%2C%20Hotmail%20and%20Flickr%20accounts&In-Reply-To=%3C201009220013.28383.fredux86%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts">fredux86 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 00:13:28 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000611.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] pronounciation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#612">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#612">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#612">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#612">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 21 septembre 2010 23:48:45, Marc Paré a écrit : +><i> This would then make "Mageia.org" a French business entity. Is the +</I>><i> registration submitted called: "Mageia.org" or just "Mageia"? +</I>><i> +</I> +in fact, when you register a name in france, you can use the domain names you want : dot com, dot org, and so on... +Sure, when you are a company, you rent all the domains you want to use, but now, the trademark "Mageia" is already registred for the global activity. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000611.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] pronounciation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#612">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#612">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#612">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#612">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000614.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000614.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..28a5864ec --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000614.html @@ -0,0 +1,60 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 82 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FMageia-discuss_Digest%3D2C_Vol_1%3D2C_Issu%3F%3D%0A%09%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3Fe_82%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3C20100921224422.7041.qmail%40s700.sureserver.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I'm glad to see this move to +create a more stable future and hopefully provide a stronger vision +and direction. + +I wish to offer my skills and time towards this project, however I'm a +newbie when it comes to packaging. + +My skills mainly focus around: Java (specifically web applications) +and PostgreSQL development. I also dabble in system administration, +mainly working with Apache HTTP, Apache Tomcat. Recently I've started +building some RPM's to deploy software easier on the systems I'm +responsible for, I'm by no means an expert at the moment. + +I'm very willing to get involved with the packaging side of: +PostgreSQL and its extensions, Java applications, Apache HTTPD, Apache +Tomcat and anything else which I can help with. + +I have a few machines I could setup as a build server, however I've +currently only got a ADSL connection available. + +I'm a big supporter of Open Source and an active member of my local +Linux User Group (Wolverhampton LUG, UK). + +Chris Ellis +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 82 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#615">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#615">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#615">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#615">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000616.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000616.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c1197b531 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000616.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Google%2C%20yahoo%2C%20Hotmail%20and%20Flickr%20accounts&In-Reply-To=%3C201009211901.28602.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I can mostly relate what choice has been made at the time. + +We got several experiences with some CMSes that were not so good in that: + - web team was way too small to master the whole thing; + - editing pages was restricted by a limited set of templates; +especially, a CMS could now allow to edit inline HTML, so fine-tuning +the contents layout was a no-go; + - its ease-of-use for non-technical people was supposed to distribute +editorial responsibility within the organization; in fact, very few +people did it themselves, rather sent a mail to the webteam to +integrate an open office document; + - its ease-of-use was too to help for translation process; that was +partly true, it helped yes, to some extent (too small a team being the +culprit, he, but making this way harder to manage in the end); + - no dedicated or available skills to maintain it (so many nightmares +to fix common issues or upgrading it); + - performance issues under heavy loads; + - no apparent content strategy from one migration to the other +(broken links & redirection all around; missing contents; inconsistent +design across the whole domain, etc. but that's another topic, yet). + +Not that I am complaining. These were great times and there were lots +of good things to learn from these CMSes too (maybe not stable enough +at the time or not properly mastered) but that was what was +experienced. Goal was to improve on this. + +><i> I think the most important feature here is internationalization, cause +</I>><i> Mageia really needs to show itself to the world, and let me tell you +</I>><i> the world doesn't speak English only. +</I> +Indeed. Now you have to take into account several things: + - you've got to decide whether you use a pivot language content tree +or leave several language trees evolve on their own; that is, having a +reference from which you translate/adapt everything, the process being +more or less fast depending on your translation team; or, having an +mutual agreement between all editors, and moving each language tree to +its own pace; for a start, I would suggest the former (ie, having a +reference tree to translate from), then adapt; + - translating, better, localizing a web site is not about only +translating chunks of text; you sometimes need to rework pictures, +labels, layouts, add/remove specific contents; so it may require +several basic webmastering skills (editing HTML, working on graphics, +understanding and coding CSS, bits of Javascript and so on); + - you've got to decide if you strive for a standard-looking website +or if you want to apply a specific look and be able to fine-tune +everything; again, that depends on your "global" web team capacity of +production and maintenance; + - coordination of the localization process of the website is a huge +task in itself; + - all your website does not necessarily have to rely on a single +solution; you can have a blog platform here, a static set of files +there, a drupal over there, a forum here, ad-hoc download platform +there, etc. it really depends on several parameters; + - questions to ask are: what does Mageia do? why? how do we organize +all this information? who produces/uses it? what should be the +user/visitor experience/goal? what's the best tool for that? + + +Now, back at the time (it was first drafter in early 2007 and went +into prod in the fall of 2008), I wrote a very basic "decorator" web +framework that let me build and design standalone HTML/PHP pages +(against a set of CSS rules and a minimalist theme, to be revamped +later with a graphics designer - didn't happen, sadly) in the old-way: +files and directories. All this was versioned on a SVN (crucial part +of the system) to allow for collaborative webmastering (I wouldn't +call that editing as, again, it's not just updating chunks of text). + +This was only for the main "institutional" website (aka www/www2) +where things are pretty static (a big update every 2 months or so, +plus gradual improvements in the meantime). Around this connected a +blog, a news feed (that could have been a blog), forums, wiki, +support, download, e-commerce platforms, etc. + +It was far from perfect of course, but it was valid and working in +that context and back at the time because: + - content was mostly static; few areas needed to have dynamic +behaviour, and when it did, a small ad-hoc webapps system was +available to take on that job; + - so you didn't really benefit from having a database; + - it proved effective for deploying a standard look to most of the +distinct platforms, all from a single web service (top nav bar + basic +CSS rules); + - présupposé was that only webmaster-skilled people would manipulate +it; and it would keep it away from people that would not care at all +about the website global consistency (about information architecture, +design, navigation, localization, content strategy, etc.); that was +part of my job, actually; + - experience with Blogdrake translation team proved it more fluent +than a conventional CMS (or so I thought), although there were lots of +improvements to do (especially in direction and how we would have +proceeded); + - there were interesting improvements to find (because, well, it's +not an "ideal" solution), like, setting up a mixed templating system +to help formatting standard pages across all locales; + - and in the end, because I felt more confident with a minimalist +solution I could understand and manage with other translators than a +big thing I couldn't; + - and it wasn't as stupid as that as other big web projects seemed to +use a similar solution (which I learned through discussions that I +freely inspired from too) for parts of their website. + +That was unpublished code, unfortunately (although it was in my +plans), so I can't publish it. But I can redraft it, as it's pretty an +easy architecture to reproduce and code is not that big. Most of the +work is still, well, in how you design and build your website. No tool +will write a good story for you. + +Now, things may be slightly different: + - I won't manage websites directly, but most likely coordinate and delegate; + - you certainly have better ideas. + +Sorry to be so long (ah, don't start me with that topic! ;-) ), just +to state what I learned and think is important to take into account. +You may want to use something like that too (or not). + +Cheers! + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000630.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#617">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#617">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#617">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#617">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000618.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000618.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7d4fb7a3a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000618.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Joining + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Joining&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimE%3DXZ6egLAHtAU%3DdaWw07JLtQS4d%3D2c%2BOFsXzR%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000630.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000619.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Joining</H1> + <B>Sinner from the Prairy</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Joining&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimE%3DXZ6egLAHtAU%3DdaWw07JLtQS4d%3D2c%2BOFsXzR%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Joining">sinnerbofh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 01:14:00 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000630.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#618">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#618">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#618">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#618">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Ignacio Salcedo +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ignacio at ignacio-profile.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> This is soo Sexy... I Wanna work here people... For the comunity +</I> +Hola Ignacio! + +Welcome! Join us please! + + +Salut, +Sinner +-- +Sinner from the Prairy - <A HREF="http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/">http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/</A> - +<A HREF="http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/">http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/</A> +Linux User # 89976 - Visit BlogDrake:  <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net">http://blogdrake.net</A> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000630.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#618">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#618">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#618">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#618">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000619.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000619.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9d260c45e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000619.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimEUm07paLhabwq0tA3PG9xOMxezRUpLB%2BOrjtc%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000618.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000628.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</H1> + <B>Sinner from the Prairy</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimEUm07paLhabwq0tA3PG9xOMxezRUpLB%2BOrjtc%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">sinnerbofh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 01:18:18 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000628.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#619">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#619">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#619">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#619">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Ignacio Salcedo +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ignacio at ignacio-profile.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> I have proposed this model: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ignacioprofile/5011912313/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ignacioprofile/5011912313/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I>><i> , on the other hand, an idea, always a good concept. +</I> + +I like the concept. Maybe with a different font, though. + + +Salut, +Sinner +-- +Sinner from the Prairy - <A HREF="http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/">http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/</A> - +<A HREF="http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/">http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/</A> +Linux User # 89976 - Visit BlogDrake:  <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net">http://blogdrake.net</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000628.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#619">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#619">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#619">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#619">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000620.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000620.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..37f89c8f9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000620.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 82 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%201%2C%20Issue%2082&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DpydT%3DRNphqNRjSUVk%2ByGtCGwXzu3aOepAPzPX%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Is it a legal problem? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2010/9/21 David W. Hodgins <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">davidwhodgins at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:15:05 -0400, Lawrence A Fossi +</I>>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">darkfoss at comst.net</A>> +</I>>><i> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> It's inevitable that Mageia would be claimed on some accounts.. a quick +</I>>>><i> Google turned up 1 US business 1 guy on Twitter +</I>>>><i> and a second with JA-Mageia..all on page 1 of the search +</I>>>><i> <A HREF="http://sites.google.com/site/johnwellssr/home">http://sites.google.com/site/johnwellssr/home</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Ouch! ?Is this a show stopper for the name mageia? +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.com/">http://mageia.com/</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The domain was registered in 2001, with the ownership hidden +</I>>><i> by Domains by Proxy. ?The sites.google.com, and the +</I>>><i> "Recent Site Activity" link on mageia.com shows it's +</I>>><i> being maintained by "John Wells Sr". +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Note that the logo consists of the site name in a stylized +</I>>><i> script, with the phrase "Isn't it magic", as the "future Web +</I>>><i> home for Mageia Minerals of Chassell, Michigan". ?The site +</I>>><i> consists of a single page hosted on sites.google.com. ?The +</I>>><i> recent activity indicates it was all created July 26th, 2010. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> While mageia.org is not the same as mageia.com, I expect +</I>>><i> a lot of users are going to accidentally go to the wrong +</I>>><i> site. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Is this going to be potential legal problem? +</I>>><i> +</I> +Could be. I think the team failed to do something very basic before they +made a final decision on the name - mageia.org, mageia.com, mageia.net +mageia.eu. Maybe they did and did not think it was something to fret +about. + +Hopefully it is not, but it does not look good from my end. + +-- +Fini Decima +<A HREF="http://linuxbsdos.com">http://linuxbsdos.com</A> + +_______________________________________________ +Mageia-discuss mailing list +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000625.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#624">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#624">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#624">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#624">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000625.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000625.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dde1f63cd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000625.html @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922000044.GL31250%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000624.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000626.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922000044.GL31250%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 02:00:45 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000624.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 80 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000626.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#625">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#625">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#625">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#625">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* Wolfgang Bornath (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>) wrote: +><i> 2010/9/21 Tux99 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>>: +</I>><i> I wonder what is the difference between cooker and cauldron, +</I>><i> pronociation-wise I mean. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> C'mon, we are all not illiterate monkeys. +</I> +Of course, but we are not all good english speaker. +And stop looking me when I said that ! 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We should immediately need to +</I>><i> consider this. Also even name is not a legal matter than domain names +</I>><i> could be give us headache. +</I> +Yes, it depends on the company and if there is an underpaid lawyer +around (no offense meant, atilla). + +A friend owning 'mobilix.de', dealing with Linux on mobile devices was +sued by the company which has the right son the famous "Asterix" +comics, where the second main character is named "Obelix". He lost the +case all the way up to the highest court although comics have nothing +in common with serious computer work (oh, ok, except UserFriendly).. +_______________________________________________ +Mageia-discuss mailing list +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000625.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#626">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#626">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#626">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#626">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000627.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000627.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..270b7f2e7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000627.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimLQN83GyorFhuLEHGb7gGAy4EJHcMWEmNcSNqs%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000727.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000629.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimLQN83GyorFhuLEHGb7gGAy4EJHcMWEmNcSNqs%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 02:14:48 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000727.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000629.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#627">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#627">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#627">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#627">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 21 September 2010 20:45, Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Op dinsdag 21 september 2010 18:35:18 schreef Ahmad Samir: +</I>>><i> On 21 September 2010 18:51, John Keller <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia at johnkeller.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> [...] +</I>>><i> > Also, I've already seen one comment on DistroWatch from an Islamic user +</I>>><i> > saying that he wasn't going to be able to use Mageia because of the +</I>>><i> > Quran's views on magic. I'm not sure if he was serious or not, but +</I>>><i> > certainly someone would be about that. I'm not suggesting we dig the +</I>>><i> > hole any deeper, but at least if there's going to be a deal-breaker with +</I>>><i> > strictly religious users, it probably won't be the name of the dev +</I>>><i> > branch. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I think he has a misconception/a-bit-of-misinformation there; The +</I>>><i> "magic" that's mentioned and forbidden in the Quaran isn't the "I get +</I>>><i> a rabbit out of my hat so quickly you think I am magical" kind, i.e. +</I>>><i> not the hocus pocus / sleight of hand kind at all. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Can i ask what _is_ referred to? +</I>><i> +</I> +On this list? no, you can't, because it's off-topic. (that is, if +you're asking a genuine question in the first place). + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000727.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000629.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#627">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#627">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#627">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#627">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000628.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000628.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b61c06704 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000628.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7bj9e%24klc%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000619.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000632.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7bj9e%24klc%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 02:40:14 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000632.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#628">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#628">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#628">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#628">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-09-21 19:18, Sinner from the Prairy a écrit : +><i> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Ignacio Salcedo +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ignacio at ignacio-profile.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> I have proposed this model: +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ignacioprofile/5011912313/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ignacioprofile/5011912313/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I>>><i> , on the other hand, an idea, always a good concept. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I like the concept. Maybe with a different font, though. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Salut, +</I>><i> Sinner +</I>This looks very nice. Me lo gusto mucho. + +Are the different logos being put up on the Mageia Flickr site? This +looks like Ignacio's account. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000632.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#628">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#628">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#628">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#628">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000629.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000629.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ff1c8fe32 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000629.html @@ -0,0 +1,182 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922005706.GM31250%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000627.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000631.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922005706.GM31250%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 02:57:06 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000627.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000631.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#629">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#629">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#629">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#629">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* Olivier Thauvin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>) wrote: +><i> * Olivier Thauvin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > Hi, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I am in charge of finding the replacement name for "cooker", eg the +</I>><i> > development version of Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks you for your suggestions. +</I> +I just sort all suggestions as promise I give you a summary. + +Please, limit your post on this list, this thread has cause enought +noise already. + +If you have a good reason to eliminate a word, or want more explanation, +mail me directly or sent me a message on IRC (Nanar, Freenode), I'll +post a sumarry here if need. + +I did learn a lot of words ! + +I made some choice for you (sorry): +- read your mail, then take decision according comment +- check quickly on google for major conflicts (such as widelly know + trademark, well know software, ...). + +My favorites are word related to room or recipient (to push a change +in...). I did also notice a lot mail in favor of 'cauldron'. + +The list, # mean the word is definitely discard (see the comment to find why). + +# Abracadabra - Way too long +Agora - too common, and <A HREF="http://www.agora.gouv.fr/">http://www.agora.gouv.fr/</A> +Alakazam - like the pokemon ? +alchemy - hard to pronouce +Baker +bakery +# blender - it is the name of a well know software +brewery, brew - religious issue +Bubbling +campus +cauldron - taken by sourcemage (is this an issue ?) +Chef +concert +crucible +# Delphi - refer to Borland delphi +Dreamspot +edge +elixir +Enchantment +fire +fireworks +foundry +genesis +harmony +# Hephaestus - complicated +Infusion +kettle +kitchen - isn't too refering to cooker ? +Manna +# mathetria - mean a disciple (female), complicated +# mercurial - name of a RCS, will cause mistakes +mercury +mill +mixer +Mystique - is it correct in english ? +# Olympus - Camera trademark +oven +Pan +# Phoenix - too complicated, will cause error "œ" +# pioneer - trademark +Potion room - one uniq word would better +# Pot - "pott" refer to drugs +Presto +Prometheus - "Prometheus is a fictional character in the Marvel Universe", I suggest to avoid... :) +quicksilver +rookery +# root - will cause mistake with the user +stove +Synergy - a free software +# Ta Da! - one word would make our life easier +# Tea party - politics issue +testing - like debian, no personnality +transmutation +twig +# unity - name of a distribution (mdv/mageia based !) +Vesuvius +Vulcan +Vulcano +wok +works - like Ms product ? + + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/7bcf15d2/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000627.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000631.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#629">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#629">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#629">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#629">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000630.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000630.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8f66821dc --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000630.html @@ -0,0 +1,186 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Website software + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Website%20software&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7bkv5%24r5b%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000617.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000618.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Website software</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Website%20software&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7bkv5%24r5b%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Website software">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 03:08:52 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#630">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#630">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#630">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#630">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-09-21 19:09, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 05:11, Diego Bello<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dbello at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> I think Romain has a lot to say here. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> He knows the needs of the current Mandriva site so he can say +</I>>><i> if the best option is a CMS or a custom developed site (Symfony anybody?). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, yes and no. I can mostly relate what choice has been made at the time. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We got several experiences with some CMSes that were not so good in that: +</I>><i> - web team was way too small to master the whole thing; +</I>><i> - editing pages was restricted by a limited set of templates; +</I>><i> especially, a CMS could now allow to edit inline HTML, so fine-tuning +</I>><i> the contents layout was a no-go; +</I>><i> - its ease-of-use for non-technical people was supposed to distribute +</I>><i> editorial responsibility within the organization; in fact, very few +</I>><i> people did it themselves, rather sent a mail to the webteam to +</I>><i> integrate an open office document; +</I>><i> - its ease-of-use was too to help for translation process; that was +</I>><i> partly true, it helped yes, to some extent (too small a team being the +</I>><i> culprit, he, but making this way harder to manage in the end); +</I>><i> - no dedicated or available skills to maintain it (so many nightmares +</I>><i> to fix common issues or upgrading it); +</I>><i> - performance issues under heavy loads; +</I>><i> - no apparent content strategy from one migration to the other +</I>><i> (broken links& redirection all around; missing contents; inconsistent +</I>><i> design across the whole domain, etc. but that's another topic, yet). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not that I am complaining. These were great times and there were lots +</I>><i> of good things to learn from these CMSes too (maybe not stable enough +</I>><i> at the time or not properly mastered) but that was what was +</I>><i> experienced. Goal was to improve on this. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> I think the most important feature here is internationalization, cause +</I>>><i> Mageia really needs to show itself to the world, and let me tell you +</I>>><i> the world doesn't speak English only. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Indeed. Now you have to take into account several things: +</I>><i> - you've got to decide whether you use a pivot language content tree +</I>><i> or leave several language trees evolve on their own; that is, having a +</I>><i> reference from which you translate/adapt everything, the process being +</I>><i> more or less fast depending on your translation team; or, having an +</I>><i> mutual agreement between all editors, and moving each language tree to +</I>><i> its own pace; for a start, I would suggest the former (ie, having a +</I>><i> reference tree to translate from), then adapt; +</I>><i> - translating, better, localizing a web site is not about only +</I>><i> translating chunks of text; you sometimes need to rework pictures, +</I>><i> labels, layouts, add/remove specific contents; so it may require +</I>><i> several basic webmastering skills (editing HTML, working on graphics, +</I>><i> understanding and coding CSS, bits of Javascript and so on); +</I>><i> - you've got to decide if you strive for a standard-looking website +</I>><i> or if you want to apply a specific look and be able to fine-tune +</I>><i> everything; again, that depends on your "global" web team capacity of +</I>><i> production and maintenance; +</I>><i> - coordination of the localization process of the website is a huge +</I>><i> task in itself; +</I>><i> - all your website does not necessarily have to rely on a single +</I>><i> solution; you can have a blog platform here, a static set of files +</I>><i> there, a drupal over there, a forum here, ad-hoc download platform +</I>><i> there, etc. it really depends on several parameters; +</I>><i> - questions to ask are: what does Mageia do? why? how do we organize +</I>><i> all this information? who produces/uses it? what should be the +</I>><i> user/visitor experience/goal? what's the best tool for that? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now, back at the time (it was first drafter in early 2007 and went +</I>><i> into prod in the fall of 2008), I wrote a very basic "decorator" web +</I>><i> framework that let me build and design standalone HTML/PHP pages +</I>><i> (against a set of CSS rules and a minimalist theme, to be revamped +</I>><i> later with a graphics designer - didn't happen, sadly) in the old-way: +</I>><i> files and directories. All this was versioned on a SVN (crucial part +</I>><i> of the system) to allow for collaborative webmastering (I wouldn't +</I>><i> call that editing as, again, it's not just updating chunks of text). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This was only for the main "institutional" website (aka www/www2) +</I>><i> where things are pretty static (a big update every 2 months or so, +</I>><i> plus gradual improvements in the meantime). Around this connected a +</I>><i> blog, a news feed (that could have been a blog), forums, wiki, +</I>><i> support, download, e-commerce platforms, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It was far from perfect of course, but it was valid and working in +</I>><i> that context and back at the time because: +</I>><i> - content was mostly static; few areas needed to have dynamic +</I>><i> behaviour, and when it did, a small ad-hoc webapps system was +</I>><i> available to take on that job; +</I>><i> - so you didn't really benefit from having a database; +</I>><i> - it proved effective for deploying a standard look to most of the +</I>><i> distinct platforms, all from a single web service (top nav bar + basic +</I>><i> CSS rules); +</I>><i> - présupposé was that only webmaster-skilled people would manipulate +</I>><i> it; and it would keep it away from people that would not care at all +</I>><i> about the website global consistency (about information architecture, +</I>><i> design, navigation, localization, content strategy, etc.); that was +</I>><i> part of my job, actually; +</I>><i> - experience with Blogdrake translation team proved it more fluent +</I>><i> than a conventional CMS (or so I thought), although there were lots of +</I>><i> improvements to do (especially in direction and how we would have +</I>><i> proceeded); +</I>><i> - there were interesting improvements to find (because, well, it's +</I>><i> not an "ideal" solution), like, setting up a mixed templating system +</I>><i> to help formatting standard pages across all locales; +</I>><i> - and in the end, because I felt more confident with a minimalist +</I>><i> solution I could understand and manage with other translators than a +</I>><i> big thing I couldn't; +</I>><i> - and it wasn't as stupid as that as other big web projects seemed to +</I>><i> use a similar solution (which I learned through discussions that I +</I>><i> freely inspired from too) for parts of their website. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That was unpublished code, unfortunately (although it was in my +</I>><i> plans), so I can't publish it. But I can redraft it, as it's pretty an +</I>><i> easy architecture to reproduce and code is not that big. Most of the +</I>><i> work is still, well, in how you design and build your website. No tool +</I>><i> will write a good story for you. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now, things may be slightly different: +</I>><i> - I won't manage websites directly, but most likely coordinate and delegate; +</I>><i> - you certainly have better ideas. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sorry to be so long (ah, don't start me with that topic! ;-) ), just +</I>><i> to state what I learned and think is important to take into account. +</I>><i> You may want to use something like that too (or not). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Romain +</I> +Merci de ton explication Romain. Are you then going to be involved with +the web design of the site(s)? + +Marc + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#630">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#630">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#630">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#630">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000631.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000631.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..162f1ac92 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000631.html @@ -0,0 +1,199 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DhgK5L%3Ds8oZJCMhkWz3FqCz3X6DCG9L1kbC88t%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000629.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000656.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DhgK5L%3Ds8oZJCMhkWz3FqCz3X6DCG9L1kbC88t%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">ajunior at brasifort.com.br + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 03:09:12 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000629.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#631">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#631">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#631">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#631">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Cauldron is a good name for the development version (testing) of mageia. +The melting pot is used to cast spells. + + +I like! + +Hugs, + +Adjamilton Júnior + +2010/9/21 Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> + +><i> * Olivier Thauvin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > * Olivier Thauvin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > > Hi, +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > I am in charge of finding the replacement name for "cooker", eg the +</I>><i> > > development version of Mageia. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Thanks you for your suggestions. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I just sort all suggestions as promise I give you a summary. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Please, limit your post on this list, this thread has cause enought +</I>><i> noise already. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you have a good reason to eliminate a word, or want more explanation, +</I>><i> mail me directly or sent me a message on IRC (Nanar, Freenode), I'll +</I>><i> post a sumarry here if need. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I did learn a lot of words ! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I made some choice for you (sorry): +</I>><i> - read your mail, then take decision according comment +</I>><i> - check quickly on google for major conflicts (such as widelly know +</I>><i> trademark, well know software, ...). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My favorites are word related to room or recipient (to push a change +</I>><i> in...). I did also notice a lot mail in favor of 'cauldron'. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The list, # mean the word is definitely discard (see the comment to find +</I>><i> why). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> # Abracadabra - Way too long +</I>><i> Agora - too common, and <A HREF="http://www.agora.gouv.fr/">http://www.agora.gouv.fr/</A> +</I>><i> Alakazam - like the pokemon ? +</I>><i> alchemy - hard to pronouce +</I>><i> Baker +</I>><i> bakery +</I>><i> # blender - it is the name of a well know software +</I>><i> brewery, brew - religious issue +</I>><i> Bubbling +</I>><i> campus +</I>><i> cauldron - taken by sourcemage (is this an issue ?) +</I>><i> Chef +</I>><i> concert +</I>><i> crucible +</I>><i> # Delphi - refer to Borland delphi +</I>><i> Dreamspot +</I>><i> edge +</I>><i> elixir +</I>><i> Enchantment +</I>><i> fire +</I>><i> fireworks +</I>><i> foundry +</I>><i> genesis +</I>><i> harmony +</I>><i> # Hephaestus - complicated +</I>><i> Infusion +</I>><i> kettle +</I>><i> kitchen - isn't too refering to cooker ? +</I>><i> Manna +</I>><i> # mathetria - mean a disciple (female), complicated +</I>><i> # mercurial - name of a RCS, will cause mistakes +</I>><i> mercury +</I>><i> mill +</I>><i> mixer +</I>><i> Mystique - is it correct in english ? +</I>><i> # Olympus - Camera trademark +</I>><i> oven +</I>><i> Pan +</I>><i> # Phoenix - too complicated, will cause error "œ" +</I>><i> # pioneer - trademark +</I>><i> Potion room - one uniq word would better +</I>><i> # Pot - "pott" refer to drugs +</I>><i> Presto +</I>><i> Prometheus - "Prometheus is a fictional character in the Marvel Universe", +</I>><i> I suggest to avoid... :) +</I>><i> quicksilver +</I>><i> rookery +</I>><i> # root - will cause mistake with the user +</I>><i> stove +</I>><i> Synergy - a free software +</I>><i> # Ta Da! - one word would make our life easier +</I>><i> # Tea party - politics issue +</I>><i> testing - like debian, no personnality +</I>><i> transmutation +</I>><i> twig +</I>><i> # unity - name of a distribution (mdv/mageia based !) +</I>><i> Vesuvius +</I>><i> Vulcan +</I>><i> Vulcano +</I>><i> wok +</I>><i> works - like Ms product ? 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Maybe with a different font, though. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Salut, +</I>><i> Sinner +</I> +I've added some proposals + +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54158977@N02/5012754619/in/pool-mageia-art">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54158977@N02/5012754619/in/pool-mageia-art</A> +This uses a font with an open license + +a variation on the theme +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54158977@N02/5013425298/in/pool-mageia-art">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54158977@N02/5013425298/in/pool-mageia-art</A> + +and the logo in isolation without text + +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54158977@N02/5013358702/in/pool-mageia-art">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54158977@N02/5013358702/in/pool-mageia-art</A> + +Cheers +GL + +-- +Graham Lauder, +OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ +<A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A> + +OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. + +Ambassador for OpenSUSE Linux on your Desktop + +INGOTs Assessor Trainer +(International Grades in Open Technologies) +www.theingots.org +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000628.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000634.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#632">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#632">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#632">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#632">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000633.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000633.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cf9877872 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000633.html @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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I do believe +</I>><i> Mageia must first decide by itself what it wants to be before pulling +</I>><i> other entities. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There will be always time for Mandriva, Suse, Fedora or even Debian to +</I>><i> join the foundation if they so wish, no? +</I> +I have just read through the whole debate/argument on cooker with the +Mandriva CEO and I must say that if anything it has confirmed to me that +the fork was the right thing to do. + +Yes, Mageia would benefit in some ways from a partnership with Mandriva +since Mandriva would provide the servers/hosting/bandwidth but the cost +to pay in terms of dependence would be unacceptable. + +Comparing a potential Mageia/Mandriva partnership with Fedora/Redhat is +laughable since Mandriva is absolutely not comparable to Redhat (a solid +profit making company that understands the value of the community). + +I hope Mageia proceeds with the plan as laid out in the original +statement on the web site, particularly the following bit: + +"Mageia is a community project: it will not depend on the fate of a +particular company." + +Should this objective be broken, then I won't be part of the fork +anymore (I know I won't be missed but I'm only stating my POV here). + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000735.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000637.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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Maybe with a different font, though. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Salut, +</I>>><i> Sinner +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I've added some proposals +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54158977@N02/5012754619/in/pool-mageia-art">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54158977@N02/5012754619/in/pool-mageia-art</A> +</I>><i> This uses a font with an open license +</I>><i> +</I>><i> a variation on the theme +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54158977@N02/5013425298/in/pool-mageia-art">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54158977@N02/5013425298/in/pool-mageia-art</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> and the logo in isolation without text +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54158977@N02/5013358702/in/pool-mageia-art">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54158977@N02/5013358702/in/pool-mageia-art</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers +</I>><i> GL +</I>><i> +</I> +Looks great! I couldn't see it on the Mageia Flickr site. + +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/pool/with/5012754619/">http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/pool/with/5012754619/</A> + +Marc + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000632.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000730.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#634">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#634">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#634">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#634">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000635.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000635.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a92ac98a2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000635.html @@ -0,0 +1,134 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7bpkp%24851%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000637.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000636.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7bpkp%24851%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 04:28:41 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000637.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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Put a lamp in somewhere! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> _____________________________________________________________ +</I>>><i> Washington DC's Largest FREE Email service. ---> <A HREF="http://www.DCemail.com">http://www.DCemail.com</A> ---> A Washington Online Community Member ---> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://www.DCpages.com">http://www.DCpages.com</A> +</I>>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> I have proposed this model: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ignacioprofile/5011912313/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ignacioprofile/5011912313/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I>><i> , on the other hand, an idea, always a good concept. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I> +Ignacio, could you upload your logo on the Mageia Flickr account. That's +where the other logos are represented. + +Gracias! + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000637.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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Because IIRC it was really a free +</I>><i> developper who told me that developpers do not need users because they +</I>><i> are developping for their own needs in the first place (I reasoned +</I>><i> that users and developpers are needing each other as 2 parts in a +</I>><i> shared system). And it was another who told me that he'd rather spend +</I>><i> his time working on a problem than reading all that user stuff in the +</I>><i> forums. No employees! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But I wish you were right. +</I> +I realise that what i described might not be the case in every FOSS +project or not in even in the majority, but it isn't just wishful +thinking, I know it is reality in some projects (even large projects). + +For example in the XBMC project (which is very large too), several +devs partecipate occasionally in end-user threads on the XBMC forum and +the interaction works very well as the devs are marked as such on the +forum so the interaction is normally very respectful. +This benefits boths sides as the devs stay in touch with what the users +think about new features or issues and the users benefit from an insight +into the thinking that lead to specific design choices. + +I think the reason this works well on the XBMC project is because the +devs themselves use a section of the forum to communicate among +themselves (rather than a ML) and therefore since they are on the forum +anyway, it's not a big effort for them to have a look at the active +end-user threads, too. + +While I'm in no position to influence this, I believe that Mageia +and it's community would greatly benefit if the Mageia devs would use a +reserved section of the Mageia forum (a subforum where only devs can +post) for cooker discussions rather than a mailing-list, since it would +bring devs and users closer to each other and facilitate interaction. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000635.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000638.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#636">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#636">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#636">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#636">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000637.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000637.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8e6b7d0ab --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000637.html @@ -0,0 +1,141 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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[Was: forking mandriva]</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BCooker%5D%20Re%3A%20Re%3A%20Transparency%20%26%20open%0A%20invitation%20to%20a%20united%20foundation..%3F%20%5BWas%3A%20forking%20mandriva%5D&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7bq27%24ab0%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 04:35:51 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000633.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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There should +be a cooling period and time will do wonders in cooling down opinions +and tempers. + +Mageia is obviously standing on its own two feet and ready to run with +the big boys. + +Mageia is a community project, and, yes, we would miss you if you left. +No problem with having difference of opinions. Difference of opinions +should not lead to family breakups. Instead, it should add a little +spice in our lives. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000633.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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However, I think +that we are also realistic in knowing that there are some occasions when +private group discussions are best for the sake of production. + +Common sense should prevail and avoiding any situation where there is a +smacking of elitism or group discussion behind closed doors should be +avoided. + +Optimistically, it looks like we are all here to work in a cooperative +environment. We just need to keep working at this and remind ourselves +often of our community commitments. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000636.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#638">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#638">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#638">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#638">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000639.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000639.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5ae684fa2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000639.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim9kGJw0Tr7W4suoCCMuz_n7A2d5o4Nb2sd7Z_x%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000623.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000642.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>John Bowden</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim9kGJw0Tr7W4suoCCMuz_n7A2d5o4Nb2sd7Z_x%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">led43john at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 05:04:41 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000623.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000642.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#639">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#639">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#639">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#639">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 22 September 2010 00:54, Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>>wrote: + +><i> * Lombard Marianne (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marianne at tuxette.fr</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > Le 21/09/2010 09:41, Olivier Thauvin a écrit : +</I>><i> > > Hi, +</I>><i> > /put is her feminist cloak +</I>><i> > And why female must the disciple ? +</I>><i> > /end of feminist time +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The word for a man look like to less funny (matheteuo) and +</I>><i> "distribution" in french is feminin word (I know english word don't have +</I>><i> gender except ship). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As I said, the idea can not please to everyone and we have enough any +</I>><i> ideas for another name less chocking. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Olivier Thauvin +</I>><i> CNRS - LATMOS +</I>><i> ♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cauldron gets my vote +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/e70d0105/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000623.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000642.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#639">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#639">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#639">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#639">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000640.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000640.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..069b8c8b6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000640.html @@ -0,0 +1,180 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20websites/maillists/irc&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7bsji%24hj6%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000772.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000692.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20websites/maillists/irc&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7bsji%24hj6%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 05:19:13 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000692.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#640">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#640">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#640">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#640">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I just thought I would post a collection of sites available from the +Mageia.org project that have been posted for users/developers. Note that +other sites have been mentioned/suggested but do not have official +Mageia.org project sanction yet. + +--------------- +Official Mageia sites (some of these may be temporary): +--------------- + +<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A> -- main Mageia website + +<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/">http://blog.mageia.org/</A> -- official news blog for Mageia + +<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?do=show&id=start">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?do=show&id=start</A> -- Mageia +contribution site. This where you will want to register your name to +contribute to the Mageia project + +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/pool/with/5012754619/">http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/pool/with/5012754619/</A> -- +Flicker site for the Logo contest + +--------------- +Official Mageia Mailist: (found on the Mageia.org site) +--------------- + +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/</A> + + +--------------- +Official Usenet discussion groups on Gmane: +--------------- + +mageia-dev: +<A HREF="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel">http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel</A> +<A HREF="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel">nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel</A> + +mageia-discuss: +<A HREF="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.user">http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.user</A> +<A HREF="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.user">nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.user</A> + +mageia-announce +<A HREF="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.announce">http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.announce</A> +<A HREF="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.announce">nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.announce</A> + + +--------------- +Official IRC Channels (Freenode network) +--------------- + +* #mageia (English), <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia">irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia</A> +* #mageia-dev (dev channel, English), <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-dev">irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-dev</A> +* #mageia-kde (KDE-specific channel), <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-kde">irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-kde</A> +* #mageia-br (Português do Brasil), <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-br">irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-br</A> +* #mageia-fi (Finnish), <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-fi">irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-fi</A> +* #mageia-fr (français), <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-fr">irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-fr</A> +* #mageia-es (Español), <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-es">irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-es</A> +* #mageia-it (Italiano), <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-it">irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-it</A> +* #mageia-no (Nynorsk), <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-no">irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-no</A> +* #mageia-ru (Русский), <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-ru">irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-ru</A> +* #mageia-uk (English), <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-uk">irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-uk</A> + +--------------- + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000692.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#640">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#640">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#640">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#640">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000641.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000641.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..822e3dba5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000641.html @@ -0,0 +1,207 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BCooker%5D%20Re%3A%20Transparency%20%26%20open%20invitation%20to%0A%20a%20united%20foundation..%3F%20%5BWas%3A%20forking%20mandriva%5D&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9976E6.1%40broadpark.no%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000695.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000645.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]</H1> + <B>Olav Dahlum</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BCooker%5D%20Re%3A%20Transparency%20%26%20open%20invitation%20to%0A%20a%20united%20foundation..%3F%20%5BWas%3A%20forking%20mandriva%5D&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9976E6.1%40broadpark.no%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]">odahlum at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 05:24:22 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000695.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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Years spent over there as an employee, seeing things from +</I>>>><i> the inside taught me that this company is, sadly, structurally broken, +</I>>>><i> from the very top (investors) down to management and its practices - +</I>>>><i> and for quite some time. Fixing it is an option, although very costly +</I>>>><i> and requiring exceptionnal skills and commitment from management; I +</I>>>><i> don't see this over there at this time. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> 2. Mandriva plans are non-existent at this time to me (yesterday's +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> blog post is empty to me). +</I>>><i> I completly agree with this. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I don't want to have anything to do with current Mandriva management +</I>>><i> anymore, I've lost any trust in them. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Nicolas +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Please don't hold the Mandriva community hostage because of personal bad +</I>><i> feelings you might have about the Mandriva company. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If Laprévote invites to collaboration to make a foundation, then this should +</I>><i> be looked into regardless of your personal feelings. I think most of us would +</I>><i> love a solution like Fedora-Redhat. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The name Mageia and the foundation might be kept. But what good does it make +</I>><i> to have a new Cooker, new build system or bugzilla? If collaboration between +</I>><i> Mandriva and Mageia is possible, then please collaborate. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> When someone reach out a hand, don't turn your back on it. Instead you could +</I>><i> indicate what you think would be needed in order to make collaboration +</I>><i> possible. Just saying 'no I wont collaborate at all' makes this look more like +</I>><i> a vendetta than a constructive initiative. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe this was a bit too harsh, but I guess you get the point :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - Jostein Hauge (jess) +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I> +Well, I will second to put aside certain differences for the benefit of +the community and create a stable environment in which we can work. +I see absolutely no problem with Mageia or Mandriva coexisting, and in +the process share as much infrastructure as possible to avoid doing it +all over again. +If we keep as much as we can of the infrastructure on community hands, I +think this is feasible to achieve and it will secure the feedback loop +into Mandriva we've missed from e.g PCLinuxOS. Also, a pure community +based distribution is a great idea, as we're not always having the same +goals as Mandriva S.A. Both would benefit from an arrangement like this. +The community (Mageia) could serve the regular users, taking care of +more personal needs and release a distro fitting these. And Mandriva +could concentrate on becoming a direct competitor to Canonical and +Redhat (possibly Novell or partners if they can work out the financial +situation) and gain real foothold in the enterprise/SMB market. One of +the prerequisites for this happen is of course that we acknowledge each +others existence and collaborate. Meaning, we will all aid in the common +development of Cooker, but be a completely independent entity from the +company, making our own (community) decisions. But will still keep the +good relations between us intact. So let's say Mandriva S.A funds (on of +the donators, etc) the foundation which creates Mageia and thus securing +their own interests through keeping the community alive, compensated for +their contributions (which is very important to remember!). We'll leave +if the situation is unsatisfactory (remember, we're highly independent +people) and if a FLOSS project lacks the community it's doomed, so +keeping us happy is the key to success. All this current pickering +between former employees and current ones is just stupid and will damage +both. So I say, let's call for a truce and work together in advocating +FLOSS software. + +Sincerely, + +Olav Dahlum +- Finding solutions to problems since last month.. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000695.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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Starting up another +web forum system would be a total waste of time and money. + +I think you should add yourself to the Wiki and figure out how to get +the mageia.org DNS changed so that forum.mageia.org points to your +server. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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[Was: forking mandriva]</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BCooker%5D%20Re%3A%20Transparency%20%26%20open%20invitation%20to%0A%09a%20united%20foundation..%3F%20%5BWas%3A%20forking%20mandriva%5D&In-Reply-To=%3C201009220827.48244.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 08:27:48 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000641.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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Also, a pure community +</I>><i> based distribution is a great idea, as we're not always having the same +</I>><i> goals as Mandriva S.A. Both would benefit from an arrangement like this. +</I>><i> The community (Mageia) could serve the regular users, taking care of +</I>><i> more personal needs and release a distro fitting these. And Mandriva +</I>><i> could concentrate on becoming a direct competitor to Canonical and +</I>><i> Redhat (possibly Novell or partners if they can work out the financial +</I>><i> situation) and gain real foothold in the enterprise/SMB market. One of +</I>><i> the prerequisites for this happen is of course that we acknowledge each +</I>><i> others existence and collaborate. Meaning, we will all aid in the common +</I>><i> development of Cooker, but be a completely independent entity from the +</I>><i> company, making our own (community) decisions. But will still keep the +</I>><i> good relations between us intact. So let's say Mandriva S.A funds (on of +</I>><i> the donators, etc) the foundation which creates Mageia and thus securing +</I>><i> their own interests through keeping the community alive, compensated for +</I>><i> their contributions (which is very important to remember!). We'll leave +</I>><i> if the situation is unsatisfactory (remember, we're highly independent +</I>><i> people) and if a FLOSS project lacks the community it's doomed, so +</I>><i> keeping us happy is the key to success. All this current pickering +</I>><i> between former employees and current ones is just stupid and will damage +</I>><i> both. So I say, let's call for a truce and work together in advocating +</I>><i> FLOSS software. +</I> ++1 +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000641.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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We should use easy pronounced words as a name. From my point of +view non-european language users wolud have problems. I suggest one of +the other words mentioned in the list.Or may be just "wand" with +magical touch? + +010/9/22 Sandro Cazzaniga <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> Le Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:20:56 -0600, +</I>><i> Drakedalfa <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">drakedalfa at gmail.com</A>> a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> I like cauldron too, i also like edge but against cauldron, this last +</I>>><i> sound better to mageia +</I>><i> I love cauldron too, very good Nanar ;) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Sandro Cazzaniga +</I>><i> Bashburn hacker (<A HREF="http://bashburn.dose.se/">http://bashburn.dose.se/</A>) +</I>><i> Mageia Contributor (<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/fr/">http://www.mageia.org/fr/</A>) +</I>><i> Serial Blogger (<A HREF="http://twitter.com/Kharec">http://twitter.com/Kharec</A>) +</I>><i> Developer (Perl, Bash, C) +</I>><i> Vice President, secretary and member of CA of Alolise +</I>><i> (<A HREF="http://www.alolise.org">http://www.alolise.org</A>) +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#646">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#646">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#646">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#646">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000647.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000647.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dd9497e46 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000647.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C201009220845.40873.tvl83%40gmx.de%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000646.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000648.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Thorsten van Lil</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C201009220845.40873.tvl83%40gmx.de%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">tvl83 at gmx.de + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 08:45:40 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#647">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#647">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#647">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#647">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Am Mittwoch 22 September 2010, 08:28:41 schrieb atilla ontas: +><i> i'm against cauldron or other two vowels included in a word name like +</I>><i> "au". We should use easy pronounced words as a name. From my point of +</I>><i> view non-european language users wolud have problems. I suggest one of +</I>><i> the other words mentioned in the list.Or may be just "wand" with +</I>><i> magical touch? +</I> +Come on! +Cauldron is a typical english word. The two vowels "au" are pronounced as one +vowel. Like the name "Paul". Maybe easier if we use the american way of +writing: caldron? + +Regards, +TeaAge + + +><i> +</I>><i> 010/9/22 Sandro Cazzaniga <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> > Le Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:20:56 -0600, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Drakedalfa <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">drakedalfa at gmail.com</A>> a écrit : +</I>><i> >> I like cauldron too, i also like edge but against cauldron, this last +</I>><i> >> sound better to mageia +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I love cauldron too, very good Nanar ;) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > -- +</I>><i> > Sandro Cazzaniga +</I>><i> > Bashburn hacker (<A HREF="http://bashburn.dose.se/">http://bashburn.dose.se/</A>) +</I>><i> > Mageia Contributor (<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/fr/">http://www.mageia.org/fr/</A>) +</I>><i> > Serial Blogger (<A HREF="http://twitter.com/Kharec">http://twitter.com/Kharec</A>) +</I>><i> > Developer (Perl, Bash, C) +</I>><i> > Vice President, secretary and member of CA of Alolise +</I>><i> > (<A HREF="http://www.alolise.org">http://www.alolise.org</A>) +</I>><i> > _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> > Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> > <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> > <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#647">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#647">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#647">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#647">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000648.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000648.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c5e199d91 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000648.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C201009220908.11244.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000647.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000650.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C201009220908.11244.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 09:08:11 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#648">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#648">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#648">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#648">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Thorsten van Lil <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>> +><i> Am Mittwoch 22 September 2010, 08:28:41 schrieb atilla ontas: +</I>><i> > i'm against cauldron or other two vowels included in a word name like +</I>><i> > "au". We should use easy pronounced words as a name. From my point of +</I>><i> > view non-european language users wolud have problems. I suggest one of +</I>><i> > the other words mentioned in the list.Or may be just "wand" with +</I>><i> > magical touch? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Come on! +</I>><i> Cauldron is a typical english word. The two vowels "au" are pronounced as +</I>><i> one vowel. Like the name "Paul". Maybe easier if we use the american way +</I>><i> of writing: caldron? +</I> +Yes, we should consider how unpronouncible words like australia, austria, +autumns and so on are... +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#648">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#648">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#648">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#648">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000649.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000649.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cebdb29da --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000649.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Google%2C%20yahoo%2C%20Hotmail%20and%20Flickr%20accounts&In-Reply-To=%3C201009220906.38706.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000626.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000727.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts</H1> + <B>Olivier Méjean</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Google%2C%20yahoo%2C%20Hotmail%20and%20Flickr%20accounts&In-Reply-To=%3C201009220906.38706.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts">omejean at yahoo.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 09:06:38 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000626.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000727.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#649">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#649">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#649">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#649">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Lawrence A Fossi a écrit +><i> well some good news I think I did a few searches at +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/index.jsp">http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/index.jsp</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.copyright.gov/">http://www.copyright.gov/</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.uspto.gov/patents/index.jsp">http://www.uspto.gov/patents/index.jsp</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.uspto.gov/ip/index.jsp">http://www.uspto.gov/ip/index.jsp</A> +</I>><i> All 4 have no results for mageia so it looks like he only has the rights to +</I>><i> mageia.com and possibly the Isn't is magic he has on his website... no +</I>><i> clue if any search would produce a result if pending. +</I> +It is possible to register a trademark using uspto.gov. The cost is between +$275 and $325 per class. For a trademark like Mageia there are several classes +in which it fits (let's say 3 classes), so the cost is between $825 and $975 +(just for US protection if i get it right) + +That a nice cost for a project that also needs servors, hosting, etc. + + + +Olivier Méjean +Président de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux +<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A> +twitter : obagoom +identi.ca : goom +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000626.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000727.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#649">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#649">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#649">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#649">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000650.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000650.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0a99ba7ac --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000650.html @@ -0,0 +1,65 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimt04jJdevs_jD6SxzMEV5uAyRLLYGqjYV%2Bbr_s%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000648.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000651.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Tonton</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimt04jJdevs_jD6SxzMEV5uAyRLLYGqjYV%2Bbr_s%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">to.tonton at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 09:14:41 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#650">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#650">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#650">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#650">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>What's mean cooker ? 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+ +the program to install M* on drive +or development version between two release ? + + +Hello, + +cooker is the " development version between two release", the time where we "cooked" a new version :) +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#651">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#651">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#651">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#651">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000652.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000652.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b592848ff --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000652.html @@ -0,0 +1,133 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C201009220922.30912.franckdoucet%40orange.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000643.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000698.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</H1> + <B>franck</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C201009220922.30912.franckdoucet%40orange.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">franckdoucet at orange.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 09:22:30 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#652">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#652">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#652">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#652">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 21 septembre 2010 22:05:24, André Machado a écrit : +><i> I'd have a insight: Mageia = Magic + Idea. Put a lamp in somewhere! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _____________________________________________________________ +</I>><i> Washington DC's Largest FREE Email service. ---> <A HREF="http://www.DCemail.com">http://www.DCemail.com</A> +</I>><i> ---> A Washington Online Community Member ---> <A HREF="http://www.DCpages.com">http://www.DCpages.com</A> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I> + I have a vague memory that the magic lamp is already the origine of the +Debian logo... + + Franck + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#652">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#652">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#652">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#652">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000653.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000653.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ad48a3916 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000653.html @@ -0,0 +1,154 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20origin%20of%20the%20name%20%22mageia%22%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C99B6CC.7000907%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000698.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000654.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"?</H1> + <B>Cassian Braconnnier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20origin%20of%20the%20name%20%22mageia%22%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C99B6CC.7000907%40free.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"?">ptyxs at free.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 09:57:00 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation?to a united foundation..? 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I had dinner +yesterday in a very pleasant japanese restaurant in Paris, and, well, +one of the participants was an erudite scholar, specialized in ancient +greek. I asked him about "mageia". He said it was a very interesting +term, the origin of which is still much debated. It is generally thought +to be linked to some proper names, like Machaon, a warrior on the side +of the greeks in the Trojan War. Most interestingly Machaon was a valued +surgeon and medic. +My friend said that the root *"mak-"* (considered by philologists to be +linked to both "Machaon" and "mageia") was considered to be a derivative +of a Persian word, meaning something like : *vault*, *protective vault* +and in a more abstact derived meaning : *protective knowledge* (hence +the link with Machaon a character mastering such protective knowledge +as medecine and surgery and the drift toward the "magic" meaning). +The debate about the word is not about what I just summarized, he said, +but rather is this : "are proper names like Machaon, for chararcters +linked to protective knowledge, the origin of the term which then +drifted to a common name like "mageia", or, conversely was the common +name mageia the primary term which then drifted to secondary proper +names such as Machaon?" +Some notion of 'protective knowledge' for the proper name of a Linux +project is perhaps not so bad, don't you think so ? + +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/b2ca497c/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation?to a united foundation..? 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[Was: forking mandriva]</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BCooker%5D%20Re%3A%20Transparency%20%26%20open%09invitation%3Fto%0A%09a%20united%20foundation..%3F%20%5BWas%3A%20forking%20mandriva%5D&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922083135.GK15219%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation?to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 10:31:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-discuss] suggestion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#654">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#654">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#654">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#654">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Jostein Hauge wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> Please don't hold the Mandriva community hostage because of personal bad +</I>><i> feelings you might have about the Mandriva company. +</I> +I'm not taking hostage anyone, just giving my opinion about those +people. + +Anyway, I don't trust them at all, so I would be very careful with what +they're trying to do, but if Mandriva wants to contribute to Mageia +like any other contributor, that's fine for me, and I think their +contributions would be welcome, as long as they don't try to take control +of the project to kill it or make it their own. That's what we should +try to avoid I think, and stay independent from Mandriva or any other +company. + +Nicolas + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-discuss] suggestion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#654">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#654">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#654">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#654">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000655.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000655.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..29c7438ed --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000655.html @@ -0,0 +1,210 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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[Was: forking mandriva]</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BCooker%5D%20Re%3A%20Transparency%20%26%20open%20invitation%20to%0A%09a%20united%20foundation..%3F%20%5BWas%3A%20forking%20mandriva%5D&In-Reply-To=%3C201009221035.46188.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 10:35:46 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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I don't trust Mandriva existing and coming management, neither +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> investors. Years spent over there as an employee, seeing things from +</I>><i> >>> the inside taught me that this company is, sadly, structurally broken, +</I>><i> >>> from the very top (investors) down to management and its practices - +</I>><i> >>> and for quite some time. Fixing it is an option, although very costly +</I>><i> >>> and requiring exceptionnal skills and commitment from management; I +</I>><i> >>> don't see this over there at this time. +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> 2. Mandriva plans are non-existent at this time to me (yesterday's +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> blog post is empty to me). +</I>><i> >> I completly agree with this. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> I don't want to have anything to do with current Mandriva management +</I>><i> >> anymore, I've lost any trust in them. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Nicolas +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Please don't hold the Mandriva community hostage because of personal bad +</I>><i> > feelings you might have about the Mandriva company. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > If Laprévote invites to collaboration to make a foundation, then this should +</I>><i> > be looked into regardless of your personal feelings. I think most of us would +</I>><i> > love a solution like Fedora-Redhat. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > The name Mageia and the foundation might be kept. But what good does it make +</I>><i> > to have a new Cooker, new build system or bugzilla? If collaboration between +</I>><i> > Mandriva and Mageia is possible, then please collaborate. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > When someone reach out a hand, don't turn your back on it. Instead you could +</I>><i> > indicate what you think would be needed in order to make collaboration +</I>><i> > possible. Just saying 'no I wont collaborate at all' makes this look more like +</I>><i> > a vendetta than a constructive initiative. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Maybe this was a bit too harsh, but I guess you get the point :) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > - Jostein Hauge (jess) +</I>><i> > _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> > Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> > <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> > <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, I will second to put aside certain differences for the benefit of +</I>><i> the community and create a stable environment in which we can work. +</I>><i> I see absolutely no problem with Mageia or Mandriva coexisting, and in +</I>><i> the process share as much infrastructure as possible to avoid doing it +</I>><i> all over again. +</I>><i> If we keep as much as we can of the infrastructure on community hands, I +</I>><i> think this is feasible to achieve and it will secure the feedback loop +</I>><i> into Mandriva we've missed from e.g PCLinuxOS. Also, a pure community +</I>><i> based distribution is a great idea, as we're not always having the same +</I>><i> goals as Mandriva S.A. Both would benefit from an arrangement like this. +</I>><i> The community (Mageia) could serve the regular users, taking care of +</I>><i> more personal needs and release a distro fitting these. And Mandriva +</I>><i> could concentrate on becoming a direct competitor to Canonical and +</I>><i> Redhat (possibly Novell or partners if they can work out the financial +</I>><i> situation) and gain real foothold in the enterprise/SMB market. One of +</I>><i> the prerequisites for this happen is of course that we acknowledge each +</I>><i> others existence and collaborate. Meaning, we will all aid in the common +</I>><i> development of Cooker, but be a completely independent entity from the +</I>><i> company, making our own (community) decisions. But will still keep the +</I>><i> good relations between us intact. So let's say Mandriva S.A funds (on of +</I>><i> the donators, etc) the foundation which creates Mageia and thus securing +</I>><i> their own interests through keeping the community alive, compensated for +</I>><i> their contributions (which is very important to remember!). We'll leave +</I>><i> if the situation is unsatisfactory (remember, we're highly independent +</I>><i> people) and if a FLOSS project lacks the community it's doomed, so +</I>><i> keeping us happy is the key to success. All this current pickering +</I>><i> between former employees and current ones is just stupid and will damage +</I>><i> both. So I say, let's call for a truce and work together in advocating +</I>><i> FLOSS software. +</I>><i> +</I> +I second that. + +Most agree that Mageia's destiny must now be in the hands of the community, and not depend on a company. 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I did also notice a lot mail in favor of 'cauldron'. +</I> +I was thinking pinguin lay eggs so I suggest simply : + +nid + +I don't think it can cause trouble in any language but not sure, tell me. +So Magieia developpement will born in a magic nid called mageia nid + +Do you agree ? + +-- +A.Salaün + + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000631.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#656">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#656">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#656">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#656">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000657.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000657.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..92e58914c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000657.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin7cXDWE0wtCE%2Bfk2a5pvUTX9mDws1_cD_4B_vh%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000651.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000665.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Tonton</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin7cXDWE0wtCE%2Bfk2a5pvUTX9mDws1_cD_4B_vh%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">to.tonton at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 10:35:06 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#657">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#657">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#657">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#657">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:16 AM, <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr</A>> wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> ----- Mail Original ----- +</I>><i> De: "Tonton" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">to.tonton at gmail.com</A>> +</I>><i> À: "Mageia general discussions" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> Envoyé: Mercredi 22 Septembre 2010 09h14:41 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / +</I>><i> Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne +</I>><i> Objet: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What's mean cooker ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> the program to install M* on drive +</I>><i> or development version between two release ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hello, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> cooker is the " development version between two release", the time where we +</I>><i> "cooked" a new version :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>and you want keep the same +not stable +unstable +or you will have cooker-stable + +now all distribution have depots where to get version of packadge +does we will mix version between relase stable test +and cazan-stable cazan-test for access a specifique packadge want to +update? + +cazan is cauldron in roumanian +like caldera in spanish +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/38ce9308/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#657">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#657">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#657">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#657">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000658.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000658.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..02dbfa5de --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000658.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dt%2Bn-Yu5UmMz0YQqSjE57Kaw6KMCASMWdhJg_y%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000656.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000683.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Tonton</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dt%2Bn-Yu5UmMz0YQqSjE57Kaw6KMCASMWdhJg_y%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">to.tonton at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 10:37:29 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#658">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#658">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#658">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#658">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> +</I>><i> I was thinking pinguin lay eggs so I suggest simply : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> nid +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't think it can cause trouble in any language but not sure, tell me. +</I>><i> So Magieia developpement will born in a magic nid called mageia nid +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Do you agree ? 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[Was: forking mandriva]</H1> + <B>Anne nicolas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BCooker%5D%20Re%3A%20Transparency%20%26%20open%20invitation%20to%0A%20a%20united%20foundation..%3F%20%5BWas%3A%20forking%20mandriva%5D&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinnuumkEpFZWP5Os2z%3DXwA7OnpR%2BvSz7%3DeFrORH%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]">ennael1 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 10:38:11 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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Our goal is to make Mageia a succes for community. And I +guess we have work enough for now :). +Cheers + + +------- +Anne +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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[Was: forking mandriva]</H1> + <B>Jerome Quelin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BCooker%5D%20Re%3A%20Transparency%20%26%20open%20invitation%20to%0A%20a%20united%20foundation..%3F%20%5BWas%3A%20forking%20mandriva%5D&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922090229.GF7260%40mongueurs.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]">jquelin at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 11:02:29 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-discuss] suggestion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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I also find it odd when I see +</I>><i> statements from them on IRC which seems to be in conflict with others +</I>><i> involved with this that they intend on going in a different direction +</I>><i> independent of Mandriva. With all the people being brought aboard with +</I>><i> Mageia from the Mandriva Linux community, I find it hard to believe +</I>><i> that there has been established a consensus about this with all of the +</I>><i> people involved and that they really want to do everything on their +</I>><i> own and not care about keeping relations or anything with what they've +</I>><i> been involved with on actual community basis and over longer times +</I>><i> than either of these two.. +</I> +since you were not part of the discussion*s*, what you believe doesn't +really matter. i can tell you that there is a consensus to release a +community distribution. in fact, it was more of a consensus: it was the +stated goal around which the rest of the project was born. + + +><i> Are you guys *really* planning on doing the whole distribution on your +</I>><i> own totally independent of Mandriva without any interest of +</I>><i> collaborating? +</I> +yes. period. + + +><i> To me, these responses of Romain and Nicolas seems to confirm all the +</I>><i> questions I raised earlier in this thread, suggesting that the fork +</I>><i> and their motivations are personal and not out of concern and care for +</I>><i> the community, despite these motivations officially given. I guess +</I>><i> there's a reason for why they avoided these critical questions raised +</I>><i> towards them, and rather chose to attack constructive attempts at +</I>><i> doing what's in the best interest of the community in stead. +</I> +i am just a contributor, who was part of the discussions before the +launch of mageia. i am not a former mandriva/edge-it employee, but yet i +totally agree with the various opinions stated here: currently, mandriva +(the society) has failed to properly communicate with the community. we +were never aware of what was going on, what were the plans, what were +the goals, etc. + +please take that into account, and the frustration it created. + +now, do you really think that mandriva's ceo coming and saying "guys you +are right, let's create something together" is to be taken seriously? + +so, for now, i think that mageia should start alone. it might be more +difficult, but results will our owns, and what we'll manage to do from +this situation. and if mandriva is really gueniously interested in a +foundation, it will do whatever is needed to make sure mageia succeeds. +in one year from now, we'll have a better view on what's going on, and +if mandriva favors a real, independent community mentality (not to +mention the fact that nerves will have settle). + +that is: we will judge mandriva for what it's doing, not it's saying. +facts, not words. + + +><i> But sure, I've only been actively involved with the development of +</I>><i> this *community* distribution and on several other levels for a decade +</I>><i> now, being amongst those involved for the longest time, while also +</I>><i> being an ex-employee myself, I've primarily been active through the +</I>><i> community independent of my employment nor imposing personal feelings +</I>><i> towards company on the community. And I can also truly claim that I +</I>><i> have an absolute full understanding of all the work an complexity +</I>><i> involved in putting together the whole distribution and put tons of +</I>><i> more hours into this on my sparetime and out of interest for +</I>><i> contributing to the community, making me quite aware of the fact that +</I>><i> you'll have a pretty darn hard time doing this and organizing the +</I>><i> whole thing on your own. +</I> +good for you. + +but you know, this is a fork - we announced *our* decision, and people +join *if*they*want*. i did not handle a gun over people to force them to +come on various mageia mailing-lists and propose their help. it was +their choice. you may not agree, but please respect their choice. same +as i respect your choice: you prefer continuing with mandriva, fine. and +i won't come and try to convince you over and over: we're grown-ups, and +can make our opinion ourselve. + + +><i> In all these claims about this being a community project and it being +</I>><i> independent off people's employment and all, would you really find +</I>><i> disgruntled ex-employees which has only been involved in this project +</I>><i> through employment as the most trustworthy characters? How much time +</I>><i> do they actually plan to invest themself into this project on their +</I>><i> sparetime now that they're not employed by Mandriva? +</I> +this is none of your business. really. +they will speak about that if they want, but otherwise, please stay away +from their private life. + + +><i> I can't really start telling how provoked I am over seeing this +</I>><i> childish and truly community hostile attitude, or about the claims +</I>><i> about through the liquidation of Edge-IT all of the talents and +</I>><i> important people involved in development of the distribution +</I>><i> disappearing, guess what, the majority of the staff working on the +</I>><i> distribution for quite some time has actually been employed at +</I>><i> Conectiva, not Edge-IT! +</I> +once again: if you think it's better to follow up mandriva, then please +do so. what we did was community-friendly: after having understood that +a reconciliation could not be done at this moment, it's way better to +say "good-bye, we're going on our own", rather than rotting and +spreading bad will / mood in the project. + +and who knows, maybe there will be a reconciliation later on. but i can +tell you that it's not possible right now. trying to force a +reconciliation won't work - it doesn't work like that. + + +jérôme +-- +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jquelin at gmail.com</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-discuss] suggestion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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It make no sense, that there are hundreds of several +distributions on the market.... + + +-- +Jürgen Ihlau +aka neo67 +<A HREF="http://www.linuxmintusers.de">http://www.linuxmintusers.de</A> +<A HREF="http://www.linuxation.de">http://www.linuxation.de</A> +_O_ +__O +OOO + +Wenn wir die Erleuchtung über unsere Selbstbestimmung erhalten und +diese Erleuchtung auf unseren freien Willen anwenden, sind wir in der +Lage eine reife und fortschrittliche Gesellschaft zu schaffen, die +über den Egoismus, den Hochmut und der Illusion steigt, welche Feinde +der Wahrheit sind. 13.11.2007: Annell Fontenot: +<A HREF="http://nationalexpositor.com/News/664.html">http://nationalexpositor.com/News/664.html</A> + „Wer in einem gewissen Alter nicht merkt, daß er hauptsächlich von +Idioten umgeben ist, merkt es aus einem gewissen Grunde nicht.“ ;-) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000720.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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I +explained my reason. We're not discussing about other language's +words. As i don't offer any Turkish word. Just point out if there are +difficulties about distro related names. As for me, also Mageia name +is a problem alone. Just look at posts about pronouncation. Also, i +haven't told you about Turkish fundementalist patriot users reactions +about a Greek word, altough it is not problem for me and my friends, i +don't against which language word have been choosen. Yesterday, some +Mandriva Turkiye community asked me how they can pronounce new distro +name, even any of them could not write it correctly. Those words are +difficult to write or pronounce for my people, like you can't +correctly pronounce Turkish or Arabic words. 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[Was: forking mandriva]</H1> + <B>Olav Dahlum</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BCooker%5D%20Re%3A%20Transparency%20%26%20open%20invitation%20to%0A%20a%20united%20foundation..%3F%20%5BWas%3A%20forking%20mandriva%5D&In-Reply-To=%3C4C99C759.8030803%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]">odahlum at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 11:07:37 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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Yes, but if said company is ready to act as a member of the community (like any of us but with maybe more means), and contribute to the project + do whatever it wants from the free distribution (corporate desktop, MDS, OEM products or anything else), then it's a win-win. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> And I pray again the former Edge-IT employees to avoid simply saying "I don't want to have anything to do with Mandriva", but rather the more nuanced "I don't want Mageia to depend on Mandriva" ! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Naïve point of view of mine ? +</I>><i> Not at all. Our goal is to make Mageia a succes for community. And I +</I>><i> guess we have work enough for now :). +</I>><i> Cheers +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ------- +</I>><i> Anne +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I> +So we agree on most things in this thread? + +-Olav. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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It sounds good because it is exactly same word in Turkish +"kazan". I vote for cazan. + + +OFFTOPIC: i think we have common words in Romanian and Turkish... + +2010/9/22 Tonton <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">to.tonton at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:16 AM, <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> ----- Mail Original ----- +</I>>><i> De: "Tonton" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">to.tonton at gmail.com</A>> +</I>>><i> À: "Mageia general discussions" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +</I>>><i> Envoyé: Mercredi 22 Septembre 2010 09h14:41 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin +</I>>><i> / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne +</I>>><i> Objet: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What's mean cooker ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> the program to install M* on drive +</I>>><i> or development version between two release ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Hello, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> cooker is the " development version between two release", the time where +</I>>><i> we "cooked" a new version :) +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> and you want keep the same +</I>><i> not stable +</I>><i> unstable +</I>><i> or you will have cooker-stable +</I>><i> +</I>><i> now all distribution have depots where to get version of packadge +</I>><i> does we will mix version between relase stable test +</I>><i> and  cazan-stable cazan-test for access a specifique packadge want to +</I>><i> update? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> cazan is cauldron in roumanian +</I>><i> like caldera in spanish +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#665">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#665">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#665">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#665">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000666.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000666.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..20de2f39e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000666.html @@ -0,0 +1,145 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Romanian%20Translation%20Team%20joining%20Mageia&In-Reply-To=%3C534556.86659.qm%40web29614.mail.ird.yahoo.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000693.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000667.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia</H1> + <B>Catalin Florin RUSSEN</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Romanian%20Translation%20Team%20joining%20Mageia&In-Reply-To=%3C534556.86659.qm%40web29614.mail.ird.yahoo.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia">cfrussen at yahoo.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 11:08:41 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#666">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#666">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#666">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#666">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Dear all, + +If the fork is starting with the actual MDV 2010.1/Cooker distro as basis, that +means I'm already the translator in Romanian language for Mageia :) +So, this being said, I'm offering my skills and spare time to translate Mageia +in Romanian language and form the Romanian Translation Team with this occasion. + +Well, I hope you guys will find an intelligent agreement with Mandriva SA and +avoid us working twice for the translations. At this moment in time I find +difficult to choose camps and renounce to all the work I've done in MDV. So I've +decided to support both of them and let the sexiest and the coolest community +win. + +So, where's the online translation interface and where I request a translator +account? +Languages: Romanian, English and French + +Cheers, +Florin Cătălin RUSSEN +Romanian Translation Team + + + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#666">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#666">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#666">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#666">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000667.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000667.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..565fa4343 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000667.html @@ -0,0 +1,163 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Romanian%20Translation%20Team%20joining%20Mageia&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D9jxa9dRhA6ovpkrtYSW4uycSGKU6ZU6khWkkq%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000666.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001284.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia</H1> + <B>Anne nicolas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Romanian%20Translation%20Team%20joining%20Mageia&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D9jxa9dRhA6ovpkrtYSW4uycSGKU6ZU6khWkkq%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia">ennael1 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 11:10:46 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001284.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#667">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#667">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#667">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#667">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/22 Catalin Florin RUSSEN <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cfrussen at yahoo.co.uk</A>>: +><i> Dear all, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If the fork is starting with the actual MDV 2010.1/Cooker distro as basis, that +</I>><i> means I'm already the translator in Romanian language for Mageia :) +</I>><i> So, this being said, I'm offering my skills and spare time to translate Mageia +</I>><i> in Romanian language and form the Romanian Translation Team with this occasion. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, I hope you guys will find an intelligent agreement with Mandriva SA and +</I>><i> avoid us working twice for the translations. At this moment in time I find +</I>><i> difficult to choose camps and renounce to all the work I've done in MDV. So I've +</I>><i> decided to support both of them and let the sexiest and the coolest community +</I>><i> win. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, where's the online translation interface and where I request a translator +</I>><i> account? +</I>><i> Languages: Romanian, English and French +</I> +infrastructure is in progress. You can register on <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki">http://mageia.org/wiki</A> +Thanks for your support + + +><i> +</I>><i> Cheers, +</I>><i> Florin Cătălin RUSSEN +</I>><i> Romanian Translation Team +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +------- +Anne +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001284.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#667">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#667">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#667">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#667">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000668.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000668.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2d1331de7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000668.html @@ -0,0 +1,137 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Future%20of%20mageia&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7ch8t%24nbf%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000662.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000673.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Future%20of%20mageia&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7ch8t%24nbf%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 11:11:57 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#668">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#668">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#668">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#668">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-09-22 05:04, neo67 a écrit : +><i> Hello, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> also in Germany there starts a discussion about mandriva - mageia. +</I>><i> PCLinuxOS, which was and is a good KDE distribution was/is based on +</I>><i> mandriva and I think, that the PCLOS people thinks about their future +</I>><i> with mandriva. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is it not a good idea to ask texstar to build up a distribution, which +</I>><i> contains pclos and the goals of mageia in one? +</I>><i> Think about it. It make no sense, that there are hundreds of several +</I>><i> distributions on the market.... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +A good majority of the developers here are ex-Mandriva employees. You +can find the list of people who are committed to the Mageia project +here: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?do=show&id=start">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?do=show&id=start</A> + +This will give you a better idea of how committed this effort is for +those who want to join. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#668">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#668">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#668">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#668">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000669.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000669.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fa13750da --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000669.html @@ -0,0 +1,132 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C25547.89698.qm%40web29609.mail.ird.yahoo.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000665.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000672.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Catalin Florin RUSSEN</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C25547.89698.qm%40web29609.mail.ird.yahoo.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">cfrussen at yahoo.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 11:13:58 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#669">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#669">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#669">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#669">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>He he, funny name, "cazan" means cauldron in Romanian, or "marmite" in French. + +Why not call it: SPARK + +Best regards, +Florin Cătălin RUSSEN +Romanian Translation Team + + + +----- Original Message ---- +From: atilla ontas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>> +To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +Sent: Wed, 22 September, 2010 11:08:19 +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + +cazan? It sounds good because it is exactly same word in Turkish +"kazan". I vote for cazan. + + +OFFTOPIC: i think we have common words in Romanian and Turkish... + +2010/9/22 Tonton <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">to.tonton at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:16 AM, <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> ----- Mail Original ----- +</I>>><i> De: "Tonton" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">to.tonton at gmail.com</A>> +</I>>><i> À: "Mageia general discussions" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +</I>>><i> Envoyé: Mercredi 22 Septembre 2010 09h14:41 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin +</I>>><i> / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne +</I>>><i> Objet: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What's mean cooker ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> the program to install M* on drive +</I>>><i> or development version between two release ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Hello, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> cooker is the " development version between two release", the time where +</I>>><i> we "cooked" a new version :) +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> and you want keep the same +</I>><i> not stable +</I>><i> unstable +</I>><i> or you will have cooker-stable +</I>><i> +</I>><i> now all distribution have depots where to get version of packadge +</I>><i> does we will mix version between relase stable test +</I>><i> and cazan-stable cazan-test for access a specifique packadge want to +</I>><i> update? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> cazan is cauldron in roumanian +</I>><i> like caldera in spanish +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>_______________________________________________ +Mageia-discuss mailing list +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> + + + + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#669">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#669">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#669">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#669">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000670.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000670.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0d2d50514 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000670.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C1285147065.15842.18.camel%40athene%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000671.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000624.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>herman</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C1285147065.15842.18.camel%40athene%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">herman at aeronetworks.ca + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 11:17:45 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000624.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 80 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#670">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#670">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#670">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#670">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 23:28 -0700, atilla ontas wrote: +><i> i'm against cauldron or other two vowels included in a word name like +</I>><i> "au". We should use easy pronounced words as a name. From my point of +</I>><i> view non-european language users wolud have problems. I suggest one of +</I>><i> the other words mentioned in the list.Or may be just "wand" with +</I>><i> magical touch? +</I>Hmm, maybe Austrians and Australians would agree that we aught to be +cautious with this austere Faustian tongue twister, lest it all be for +naught... + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000624.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 80 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#670">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#670">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#670">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#670">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000671.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000671.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2d2441d75 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000671.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DogE%2BCYWV%3D59zFOPcq-5BFwzcTNiG%3Dj4%3DitEbH%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000663.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000670.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Tonton</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DogE%2BCYWV%3D59zFOPcq-5BFwzcTNiG%3Dj4%3DitEbH%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">to.tonton at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 11:18:28 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#671">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#671">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#671">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#671">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:06 AM, atilla ontas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> 2010/9/22 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> > Yes, we should consider how unpronouncible words like australia, austria, +</I>><i> > autumns and so on are... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hey, we are trying to share opinions about what we named it. I +</I>><i> explained my reason. We're not discussing about other language's +</I>><i> words. As i don't offer any Turkish word. Just point out if there are +</I>><i> difficulties about distro related names. As for me, also Mageia name +</I>><i> is a problem alone. Just look at posts about pronouncation. Also, i +</I>><i> haven't told you about Turkish fundementalist patriot users reactions +</I>><i> about a Greek word, altough it is not problem for me and my friends, i +</I>><i> don't against which language word have been choosen. Yesterday, some +</I>><i> Mandriva Turkiye community asked me how they can pronounce new distro +</I>><i> name, even any of them could not write it correctly. Those words are +</I>><i> difficult to write or pronounce for my people, like you can't +</I>><i> correctly pronounce Turkish or Arabic words. Thats only my personal +</I>><i> opinion. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +1 +</I>i just read the same and i am french guy so i like speak about romanians so +don't be carreful (a trouble with my gvt) +but the ideas was nearest the word to describe where to be when not publicly +available + +in cauldron cazan chaudron caldera where magician cooking +cradle berceau béso(haitian) was more human being the first step of life +but does "step on !" means not sure ? +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/0743fb85/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#671">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#671">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#671">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#671">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000672.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000672.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..51c05f146 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000672.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C4C99CA49.6050009%40eesti.ee%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Certainly, I read a few comments +about collaborating with PCLOS or Unity at MandrivaUser.de but not very much. +And I don't think we should try to be some kind of part of one of those +projects. Collaboration may be possible between the projects and I'm sure it +will happen but let's get a solid basis first. +Another reason are things happening over at PCLOS in the last few years. There +was a big noise sometime ago due to the partly autocratic leading by texstar. +PCLOS is - in my eyes - a one-man-show with some framework arround it. + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#673">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#673">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#673">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#673">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000674.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000674.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a2ba573ed --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000674.html @@ -0,0 +1,129 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Future%20of%20mageia&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922092918.GL15219%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000673.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000678.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Future%20of%20mageia&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922092918.GL15219%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 11:29:18 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#674">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#674">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#674">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#674">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, neo67 wrote: + +><i> Hello, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> also in Germany there starts a discussion about mandriva - mageia. +</I>><i> PCLinuxOS, which was and is a good KDE distribution was/is based on +</I>><i> mandriva and I think, that the PCLOS people thinks about their future +</I>><i> with mandriva. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is it not a good idea to ask texstar to build up a distribution, which +</I>><i> contains pclos and the goals of mageia in one? +</I>><i> Think about it. It make no sense, that there are hundreds of several +</I>><i> distributions on the market.... +</I> +If texstar and other people want to join Mageia project, I think they're +welcome. But nobody is forced to join. They can have their own +distribution if they want, that's their choice ... + +Nicolas + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#674">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#674">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#674">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#674">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000675.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000675.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..26371c721 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000675.html @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] suggestion + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20suggestion&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTiks0us50CdHuk1W%3DWqKMUXbAOpkehSkZaH6vu0K%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000660.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000661.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] suggestion</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20suggestion&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTiks0us50CdHuk1W%3DWqKMUXbAOpkehSkZaH6vu0K%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] suggestion">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 11:32:33 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-discuss] suggestion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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As to Mandriva's statements the next release of the desktop +distribution 2011.0 is planned for 2nd quarter of 2011. + +Whether they will really release by then, whether the quality will be +the same as before, this is in the future and nobody can tell. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-discuss] suggestion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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I did also notice a lot mail in favor of 'cauldron'. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The list, # mean the word is definitely discard (see the comment to find why). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> # Abracadabra - Way too long +</I>><i> Agora - too common, and <A HREF="http://www.agora.gouv.fr/">http://www.agora.gouv.fr/</A> +</I>><i> Alakazam - like the pokemon ? +</I>><i> alchemy - hard to pronouce +</I>><i> Baker +</I>><i> bakery +</I>><i> # blender - it is the name of a well know software +</I>><i> brewery, brew - religious issue +</I>><i> Bubbling +</I>><i> campus +</I>><i> cauldron - taken by sourcemage (is this an issue ?) +</I>><i> Chef +</I>><i> concert +</I>><i> crucible +</I>><i> # Delphi - refer to Borland delphi +</I>><i> Dreamspot +</I>><i> edge +</I>><i> elixir +</I>><i> Enchantment +</I>><i> fire +</I>><i> fireworks +</I>><i> foundry +</I>><i> genesis +</I>><i> harmony +</I>><i> # Hephaestus - complicated +</I>><i> Infusion +</I>><i> kettle +</I>><i> kitchen - isn't too refering to cooker ? +</I>><i> Manna +</I>><i> # mathetria - mean a disciple (female), complicated +</I>><i> # mercurial - name of a RCS, will cause mistakes +</I>><i> mercury +</I>><i> mill +</I>><i> mixer +</I>><i> Mystique - is it correct in english ? +</I>><i> # Olympus - Camera trademark +</I>><i> oven +</I>><i> Pan +</I>><i> # Phoenix - too complicated, will cause error "œ" +</I>><i> # pioneer - trademark +</I>><i> Potion room - one uniq word would better +</I>><i> # Pot - "pott" refer to drugs +</I>><i> Presto +</I>><i> Prometheus - "Prometheus is a fictional character in the Marvel Universe", I suggest to avoid... :) +</I>><i> quicksilver +</I>><i> rookery +</I>><i> # root - will cause mistake with the user +</I>><i> stove +</I>><i> Synergy - a free software +</I>><i> # Ta Da! - one word would make our life easier +</I>><i> # Tea party - politics issue +</I>><i> testing - like debian, no personnality +</I>><i> transmutation +</I>><i> twig +</I>><i> # unity - name of a distribution (mdv/mageia based !) +</I>><i> Vesuvius +</I>><i> Vulcan +</I>><i> Vulcano +</I>><i> wok +</I>><i> works - like Ms product ? +</I> +Just in case some of you may have missed Olivier's message (it is harder +to track on the mailist), Olivier posted this list a couple of days ago +and suggested to limit posting on this thread. I believe he is trying to +set up a polling/voting page where you could vote on the list of +suggestions in his list that he collected from the suggestions on this +thread. I believe he is concentrating on this list of names. + +Marc + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000691.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000696.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#676">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#676">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#676">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#676">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000677.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000677.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5bcb889c2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000677.html @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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[Was: forking mandriva]</H1> + <B>Morgan Leijström</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BCooker%5D%20Re%3A%20Transparency%20%26%20open%20invitation%20to%0A%09a%20united%20foundation..%3F%20%5BWas%3A%20forking%20mandriva%5D&In-Reply-To=%3C201009221136.46267.fri%40tribun.eu%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]">fri at tribun.eu + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 11:36:46 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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It make no sense, that there are hundreds of several +</I>>><i> distributions on the market.... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If texstar and other people want to join Mageia project, I think they're +</I>><i> welcome. But nobody is forced to join. They can have their own +</I>><i> distribution if they want, that's their choice ... +</I> +Exactly my opinion. texstar had his reasons (his opinion) to leave +Mandriva, actually he was the first to fork Mandrakelinux (as it was +called by that time). All those who are thinking about some merge or +whatever with PCLOS should keep that in mind. + +As Oliver and Nicolas I would welcome anybody joining Mageia but now +that this new project is on its way to find its identity it should not +give up any of that by joining other existing projects. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#678">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#678">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#678">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#678">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000679.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000679.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f7f827518 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000679.html @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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Then we can discuss such things. As i know +PCLOS is now on a seperate and different basis than Mandriva. Only +draktools are common. Also Unity is focused not on a desktop +production but a core system and using rpm5 instead of Red Hat's rpm +format. If we dive into those join-collabrate-produce a common distro +discuss there will no Mageia but memories about a Mandriva based fully +community dependend distro. + +2010/9/22 Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>>: +><i> 2010/9/22 nicolas vigier <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>>: +</I>>><i> On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, neo67 wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Hello, +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> also in Germany there starts a discussion about mandriva - mageia. +</I>>>><i> PCLinuxOS, which was and is a good KDE distribution was/is based on +</I>>>><i> mandriva and I think, that the PCLOS people thinks about their future +</I>>>><i> with mandriva. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Is it not a good idea to ask texstar to build up a distribution, which +</I>>>><i> contains pclos and the goals of mageia in one? +</I>>>><i> Think about it. It make no sense, that there are hundreds of several +</I>>>><i> distributions on the market.... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> If texstar and other people want to join Mageia project, I think they're +</I>>><i> welcome. But nobody is forced to join. They can have their own +</I>>><i> distribution if they want, that's their choice ... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Exactly my opinion. texstar had his reasons (his opinion) to leave +</I>><i> Mandriva, actually he was the first to fork Mandrakelinux (as it was +</I>><i> called by that time). All those who are thinking about some merge or +</I>><i> whatever with PCLOS should keep that in mind. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As Oliver and Nicolas I would welcome anybody joining Mageia but now +</I>><i> that this new project is on its way to find its identity it should not +</I>><i> give up any of that by joining other existing projects. +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#681">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#681">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#681">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#681">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000682.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000682.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..05d0e1cb2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000682.html @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Future%20of%20mageia&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikM_HxUrQYCwXNnxLQnEmHREDna_2M8J9qdBm4Z%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000681.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000689.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia</H1> + <B>neo67</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Future%20of%20mageia&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikM_HxUrQYCwXNnxLQnEmHREDna_2M8J9qdBm4Z%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia">i.am.neo67 at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 11:55:56 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#682">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#682">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#682">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#682">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>>><i> On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, neo67 wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Hello, +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> also in Germany there starts a discussion about mandriva - mageia. +</I>>>><i> PCLinuxOS, which was and is a good KDE distribution was/is based on +</I>>>><i> mandriva and I think, that the PCLOS people thinks about their future +</I>>>><i> with mandriva. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Is it not a good idea to ask texstar to build up a distribution, which +</I>>>><i> contains pclos and the goals of mageia in one? +</I>>>><i> Think about it. It make no sense, that there are hundreds of several +</I>>>><i> distributions on the market.... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> If texstar and other people want to join Mageia project, I think they're +</I>>><i> welcome. But nobody is forced to join. They can have their own +</I>>><i> distribution if they want, that's their choice ... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Exactly my opinion. texstar had his reasons (his opinion) to leave +</I>><i> Mandriva, actually he was the first to fork Mandrakelinux (as it was +</I>><i> called by that time). All those who are thinking about some merge or +</I>><i> whatever with PCLOS should keep that in mind. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As Oliver and Nicolas I would welcome anybody joining Mageia but now +</I>><i> that this new project is on its way to find its identity it should not +</I>><i> give up any of that by joining other existing projects. +</I> +Yes, that is a good view (anybody can join us..) on this topic also. +For me and my understanding, how to start those projects is different. +What I learned about the years in information technology (I'm 43y) and +in main: the people who work and develop in information technology is: +to be active NOT reactive. Sometimes, I have the illusion, that - just +in open source project- everybody relies on: That is an open source +project, so all will go fine, beacuse we are the good, not the ugly. +Lets smoke some and listen to the 60th... music... is possible that +I'm wrong at this time. 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+</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> or Cradle ? +</I>Crado in French ;-) + +-- +A.Salaün + + + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#683">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#683">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#683">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#683">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000684.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000684.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ffd5cb655 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000684.html @@ -0,0 +1,136 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C960765.22890.qm%40web29614.mail.ird.yahoo.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000680.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000686.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Catalin Florin RUSSEN</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C960765.22890.qm%40web29614.mail.ird.yahoo.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">cfrussen at yahoo.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 11:59:43 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good Discussion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#684">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#684">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#684">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#684">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>cooker+magic (alchemy actually) => alchemist? + +Why not: iCook ? + +Florin + + + +----- Original Message ---- +From: David Coulette <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dcoulette at yahoo.fr</A>> +To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +Sent: Wed, 22 September, 2010 11:54:48 +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + +cooker+magic (alchemy actually) + + +=> Crucible ? + + + +_______________________________________________ +Mageia-discuss mailing list +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> + + + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good Discussion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#684">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#684">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#684">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#684">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000685.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000685.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..113c8b9f6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000685.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C201009221210.22570.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000683.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000690.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C201009221210.22570.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 12:10:22 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000690.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#685">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#685">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#685">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#685">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>André Salaün <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andresalaun at aliceadsl.fr</A>> +><i> > or Cradle ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Crado in French ;-) +</I>Let's stay with English names, shell we? + +I don't think it will do any good to take naems out of other languages, +especially the smaller ones. (And I must explain, that I have not and will +neer call French or Spanish a smaller language) + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000690.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#685">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#685">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#685">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#685">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000686.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000686.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9187a86f1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000686.html @@ -0,0 +1,114 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Good Discussion + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Good%20Discussion&In-Reply-To=%3C201009220207.53488.michael%40margrave.biz%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000684.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000687.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Good Discussion</H1> + <B>Michael Moore</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Good%20Discussion&In-Reply-To=%3C201009220207.53488.michael%40margrave.biz%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Good Discussion">michael at margrave.biz + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 12:07:53 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spanish translation of the first blog post. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#686">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#686">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#686">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#686">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I have heard all I need to hear. I have faith that you will reach good +decisions. I know this discussion is necessary, but it doesn't need me. + +I will discover what I can do to help and do it. + +auf wiedersehen + +Michael +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spanish translation of the first blog post. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#686">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#686">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#686">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#686">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000687.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000687.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..61c8210ec --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000687.html @@ -0,0 +1,157 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Spanish translation of the first blog post. + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Spanish%20translation%20of%20the%20first%20blog%20post.&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikgom7g8%3Dxx5qu8norotrndVmgcmiQ7GBg6yL48%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000686.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000688.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Spanish translation of the first blog post.</H1> + <B>vfmBOFH</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Spanish%20translation%20of%20the%20first%20blog%20post.&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikgom7g8%3Dxx5qu8norotrndVmgcmiQ7GBg6yL48%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Spanish translation of the first blog post.">vfmbofh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 12:16:42 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good Discussion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000688.html">[Mageia-discuss] UNSUBSCRIBE +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#687">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#687">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#687">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#687">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi all. + +MDK-trans has translated the first mageia's blog post to spanish. + +I post the translation here, feel free to use. + +-------------------------------------------------------------- + +¡Gracias! +Publicado el 21 de septiembre de 2010 por ennael + +No sabíamos cómo empezar esto, así que vamos a hacerlo de la manera más +obvia. + +Muchachos, gracias. + +Muchas gracias por vuestro entusiasmo, vuestras solicitudes para +uniros, para ayudar a este proyecto, por proporcionar inspiración +sobre la infraestrucutra de hardware, el sistema de compilación, la +gestión de la comunidad, temas artísticos, ¡tantas cosas! + +Ha sido diferente para cada uno de nosotros, pero la idea de hacer +algo distinto ha ido madurando durante meses hasta ahora. Las cosas +realmente se materializaron hace pocos días a medida que los debates +se concretaban más, y ahora aquí estamos. + +Sabíamos que era un movimiento importante; que probablemente podríamos +dar primeros pasos en falso y que deberíamos proceder con cuidado. +Vuestro recibimiento de las noticias simplemente ha excedido nuestros +sueños más desatados. + +Ver a tanta gente de las comunidades de cooker y de usuarios, y +también gente que lo había dejado en años anteriores, convergiendo +todos juntos confirma nuestra resolución de que hacer una distribución +completamente basada en la comunidad era, es, la dirección correcta. + +No se trata sólo de un pequeño grupo de gente, se trata de lo que +pueden hacer con una tecnología que diseñemos, construyamos y usemos +cada día a través de una organización que asegure la colaboración, +innovación, producción y beneficios a todos. + +Una vez más, esto no será fácil, instantáneo ni directo. Estamos +asentando los primeros pasos organizativos para que todos nosotros +podamos empezar a trabajar en este nuevo proyecto. + +Así que, ¡empecemos juntos! + +------------------------------------------------------ +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/af04f888/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good Discussion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000688.html">[Mageia-discuss] UNSUBSCRIBE +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#687">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#687">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#687">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#687">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000688.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000688.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7d9a5b479 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000688.html @@ -0,0 +1,165 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] UNSUBSCRIBE + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20UNSUBSCRIBE&In-Reply-To=%3C201009221134.31961.kw%40ken-williams.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000687.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000699.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] UNSUBSCRIBE</H1> + <B>Ken Williams</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20UNSUBSCRIBE&In-Reply-To=%3C201009221134.31961.kw%40ken-williams.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] UNSUBSCRIBE">kw at ken-williams.net + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 12:34:31 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spanish translation of the first blog post. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000699.html">[Mageia-discuss] Czech language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#688">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#688">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#688">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#688">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wednesday 22 Sep 2010 11:16:42 vfmBOFH wrote: +><i> Hi all. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> MDK-trans has translated the first mageia's blog post to spanish. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I post the translation here, feel free to use. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -------------------------------------------------------------- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ¡Gracias! +</I>><i> Publicado el 21 de septiembre de 2010 por ennael +</I>><i> +</I>><i> No sabíamos cómo empezar esto, así que vamos a hacerlo de la manera más +</I>><i> obvia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Muchachos, gracias. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Muchas gracias por vuestro entusiasmo, vuestras solicitudes para +</I>><i> uniros, para ayudar a este proyecto, por proporcionar inspiración +</I>><i> sobre la infraestrucutra de hardware, el sistema de compilación, la +</I>><i> gestión de la comunidad, temas artísticos, ¡tantas cosas! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ha sido diferente para cada uno de nosotros, pero la idea de hacer +</I>><i> algo distinto ha ido madurando durante meses hasta ahora. Las cosas +</I>><i> realmente se materializaron hace pocos días a medida que los debates +</I>><i> se concretaban más, y ahora aquí estamos. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sabíamos que era un movimiento importante; que probablemente podríamos +</I>><i> dar primeros pasos en falso y que deberíamos proceder con cuidado. +</I>><i> Vuestro recibimiento de las noticias simplemente ha excedido nuestros +</I>><i> sueños más desatados. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ver a tanta gente de las comunidades de cooker y de usuarios, y +</I>><i> también gente que lo había dejado en años anteriores, convergiendo +</I>><i> todos juntos confirma nuestra resolución de que hacer una distribución +</I>><i> completamente basada en la comunidad era, es, la dirección correcta. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> No se trata sólo de un pequeño grupo de gente, se trata de lo que +</I>><i> pueden hacer con una tecnología que diseñemos, construyamos y usemos +</I>><i> cada día a través de una organización que asegure la colaboración, +</I>><i> innovación, producción y beneficios a todos. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Una vez más, esto no será fácil, instantáneo ni directo. Estamos +</I>><i> asentando los primeros pasos organizativos para que todos nosotros +</I>><i> podamos empezar a trabajar en este nuevo proyecto. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Así que, ¡empecemos juntos! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ------------------------------------------------------ +</I> +-- + +Ken Williams +Kinmel Bay, Rhyl. + +In a world without walls and fences, +who needs windows and gates? + +I use Linux, not Windows. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spanish translation of the first blog post. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000699.html">[Mageia-discuss] Czech language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#688">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#688">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#688">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#688">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000689.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000689.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..081ed5139 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000689.html @@ -0,0 +1,122 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Future%20of%20mageia&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikU%2BMVusDj1PTS0WKGhzzwCaOJvTgWfYv5UEsyd%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000682.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000693.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Future%20of%20mageia&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikU%2BMVusDj1PTS0WKGhzzwCaOJvTgWfYv5UEsyd%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 12:41:06 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#689">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#689">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#689">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#689">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/22 neo67 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">i.am.neo67 at googlemail.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> Yes, that is a good view (anybody can join us..) on this topic also. +</I>><i> For me and my understanding, how to start those projects is different. +</I>><i> What I learned about the years in information technology (I'm 43y) and +</I>><i> in main: the people who work and develop in information technology is: +</I>><i> to be active NOT reactive. Sometimes, I have the illusion, that - just +</I>><i> in open source project- everybody relies on: That is an open source +</I>><i> project, so all will go fine, beacuse we are the good, not the ugly. +</I>><i> Lets smoke some and listen to the 60th... music...  is possible that +</I>><i> I'm wrong at this time. But for sure is one thing, it is a great +</I>><i> change. :-) +</I> +well, I'm exdactly 20 years older and I've been in this Linux field +for some 15 years now. I do like 60th music, smoking my occasional +pipe or shish (or I roll my own) and I am convinced that I am the good +and the ugly but never the bad. Still I see reality and necessities +like eating. Michael Scherer commented on this part of the project and +I am convinced that nobody will starve just because he joins Mageia :) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#689">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#689">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#689">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#689">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000690.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000690.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..18dc67b67 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000690.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922125148.584b44f9%40gaia%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000685.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000691.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>André Salaün</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922125148.584b44f9%40gaia%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">andresalaun at aliceadsl.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 12:51:48 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000691.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#690">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#690">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#690">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#690">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:10:22 +0200 +Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>> a écrit: + +><i> André Salaün <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andresalaun at aliceadsl.fr</A>> +</I>><i> > > or Cradle ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Crado in French ;-) +</I>><i> Let's stay with English names, shell we? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't think it will do any good to take naems out of other languages, +</I>><i> especially the smaller ones. (And I must explain, that I have not and will +</I>><i> neer call French or Spanish a smaller language) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oliver +</I> +Yes sir ! + +But I proposed "nid" which is an English word I think. + +Cradle / crado - crade is just a joke due to a bad euphony like some others words in others language (pot /pott) + +-- +A.Salaün + + + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000691.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#690">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#690">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#690">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#690">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000691.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000691.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..11afa6c22 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000691.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922125939.435bc7b3%40gaia%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000690.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000676.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>André Salaün</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922125939.435bc7b3%40gaia%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">andresalaun at aliceadsl.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 12:59:39 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000690.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#691">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#691">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#691">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#691">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:51:48 +0200 +André Salaün <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andresalaun at aliceadsl.fr</A>> a écrit: + +><i> Le Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:10:22 +0200 +</I>><i> Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>> a écrit: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > André Salaün <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andresalaun at aliceadsl.fr</A>> +</I>><i> > > > or Cradle ? +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Crado in French ;-) +</I>><i> > Let's stay with English names, shell we? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I don't think it will do any good to take naems out of other languages, +</I>><i> > especially the smaller ones. (And I must explain, that I have not and will +</I>><i> > neer call French or Spanish a smaller language) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Oliver +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes sir ! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But I proposed "nid" which is an English word I think. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cradle / crado - crade is just a joke due to a bad euphony like some others words in others language (pot /pott) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> A.Salaün +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Oh !!! Sorry ! +In my two mails I type the frnch word in place of english one, I want to propose : + +nest + +of course, and I go to rest ;-) + + +-- +A.Salaün + + + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000690.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#691">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#691">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#691">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#691">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000692.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000692.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d86d348c1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000692.html @@ -0,0 +1,136 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20websites/maillists/irc&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik1BQ2DBD30skFxAQZPDcJys4VeoPrwU-dTn%3DfE%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000640.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000695.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc</H1> + <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20websites/maillists/irc&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik1BQ2DBD30skFxAQZPDcJys4VeoPrwU-dTn%3DfE%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc">dglent at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 13:07:58 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000695.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#692">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#692">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#692">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#692">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/22 Marc Paré <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>> + +><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/">http://blog.mageia.org/</A> -- official news blog for Mageia +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?do=show&id=start">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?do=show&id=start</A> -- Mageia +</I>><i> contribution site. This where you will want to register your name to +</I>><i> contribute to the Mageia project +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/pool/with/5012754619/">http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/pool/with/5012754619/</A> -- Flicker +</I>><i> site for the Logo contest +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> --------------- +</I>><i> Official Usenet discussion groups on Gmane: +</I>><i> --------------- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> mageia-dev: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel">http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel">nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> mageia-discuss: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.user">http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.user</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.user">nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.user</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> mageia-announce +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.announce">http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.announce</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.announce">nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.announce</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>These links may be shown in the fisrt place mageia.org ? + + +-- +Dimitrios Glentadakis +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/318531f8/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000695.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#692">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#692">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#692">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#692">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000693.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000693.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f35852a4a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000693.html @@ -0,0 +1,123 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Future%20of%20mageia&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D4i%3D5wT6VP5Fu%3D%2BdakSJYtZZqmFmnTjp8U_9db%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000689.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000666.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia</H1> + <B>neo67</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Future%20of%20mageia&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D4i%3D5wT6VP5Fu%3D%2BdakSJYtZZqmFmnTjp8U_9db%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia">i.am.neo67 at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 13:35:04 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#693">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#693">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#693">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#693">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/22 Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>>: +><i> 2010/9/22 neo67 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">i.am.neo67 at googlemail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Yes, that is a good view (anybody can join us..) on this topic also. +</I>>><i> For me and my understanding, how to start those projects is different. +</I>>><i> What I learned about the years in information technology (I'm 43y) and +</I>>><i> in main: the people who work and develop in information technology is: +</I>>><i> to be active NOT reactive. Sometimes, I have the illusion, that - just +</I>>><i> in open source project- everybody relies on: That is an open source +</I>>><i> project, so all will go fine, beacuse we are the good, not the ugly. +</I>>><i> Lets smoke some and listen to the 60th... music...  is possible that +</I>>><i> I'm wrong at this time. But for sure is one thing, it is a great +</I>>><i> change. :-) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> well, I'm exdactly 20 years older and I've been in this Linux field +</I>><i> for some 15 years now. I do like 60th music, smoking my occasional +</I>><i> pipe or shish (or I roll my own) and I am convinced that I am the good +</I>><i> and the ugly but never the bad. Still I see reality and necessities +</I>><i> like eating. Michael Scherer commented on this part of the project and +</I>><i> I am convinced that nobody will starve just because he joins Mageia :) +</I> +Starve? Thats funny. Yes, you know about the gold? It was the grave +beside, in which nodody was buried! ;-) +Okay, I will follow mageia and see, what I can do. :-) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#693">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#693">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#693">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#693">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000694.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000694.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..11f887755 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000694.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C4C99EB60.2080301%40inria.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000696.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000697.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Malo</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C4C99EB60.2080301%40inria.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">pierre-malo.denielou at inria.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 13:41:20 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000696.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000697.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#694">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#694">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#694">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#694">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Olivier Thauvin wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> cauldron - taken by sourcemage (is this an issue ?) +</I> +Wasn't there also a Caldera Linux from the infamous SCO Group? +<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caldera_OpenLinux">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caldera_OpenLinux</A> + +Caldera is Cauldron in Spanish. + +Don't know if that's a pb. + +-- +Malo + +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000696.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000697.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#694">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#694">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#694">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#694">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000695.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000695.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..221a92da3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000695.html @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20websites/maillists/irc&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7cteo%24f87%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000692.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000641.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20websites/maillists/irc&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7cteo%24f87%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 14:39:52 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000692.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000641.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#695">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#695">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#695">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#695">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-09-22 07:07, Dimitrios Glentadakis a écrit : + +><i> These links may be shown in the fisrt place mageia.org <<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>> ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I>><i> +</I> +I imagine the mageia.org webmaster will eventually put these links on +the official website. + +I was trying to help the mailist users who would have missed the +announceements of some of these links. The Gmane discussion list users +can find this information a little more easily by searching through the +older discussion threads. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000692.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000641.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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I believe he is trying to +</I>><i> set up a polling/voting page where you could vote on the list of +</I>><i> suggestions in his list that he collected from the suggestions on this +</I>><i> thread. I believe he is concentrating on this list of names. +</I> +Ah thanks, at least someone read what I write. I was wondering if my +english is understable. + +I confirm this, except I sent the mail at 1H00 GMT, not few days ago. + +You can still mail me directly, but please, stop the current useless +flood on this mailing list. + + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/cef8575d/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000694.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#696">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#696">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#696">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#696">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000697.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000697.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fd857c5ec --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000697.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7ctth%24hi3%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000694.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000703.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7ctth%24hi3%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 14:47:44 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000694.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000703.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#697">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#697">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#697">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#697">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-09-22 07:41, Malo a écrit : +><i> Olivier Thauvin wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> cauldron - taken by sourcemage (is this an issue ?) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Wasn't there also a Caldera Linux from the infamous SCO Group? +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caldera_OpenLinux">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caldera_OpenLinux</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Caldera is Cauldron in Spanish. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Don't know if that's a pb. +</I>><i> +</I> +Now that is funny! Thanks for pointing that out. For me, that would be a +problem and an ominous one at that! It would be best to stay away from +any terms used by Caldera/Sco. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000694.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000703.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#697">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#697">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#697">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#697">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000698.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000698.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4bf3e5bbe --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000698.html @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922083244.150f90a1%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000652.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000653.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</H1> + <B>francisco monge a</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922083244.150f90a1%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">hellfranciscodrake at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 16:32:44 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#698">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#698">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#698">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#698">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>El Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:22:30 +0200 +franck <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">franckdoucet at orange.fr</A>> escribió: +><i> Le mardi 21 septembre 2010 22:05:24, André Machado a écrit : +</I>><i> > I'd have a insight: Mageia = Magic + Idea. Put a lamp in somewhere! +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > _____________________________________________________________ +</I>><i> > Washington DC's Largest FREE Email service. ---> +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://www.DCemail.com">http://www.DCemail.com</A> ---> A Washington Online Community Member +</I>><i> > ---> <A HREF="http://www.DCpages.com">http://www.DCpages.com</A> +</I>><i> > _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss +</I>><i> > mailing list <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> > <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I have a vague memory that the magic lamp is already the origine of +</I>><i> the Debian logo... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Franck +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I> +Its a statement about the Debian logo is correct, when referring to the +license they use the following logo + +<A HREF="http://www.debian.org/logos/officiallogo-100.jpg">http://www.debian.org/logos/officiallogo-100.jpg</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#698">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#698">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#698">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#698">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000699.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000699.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2e192d369 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000699.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Czech language + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Czech%20language&In-Reply-To=%3C7e96d4341c682e7db29ad85bfd027f97.squirrel%40vasilenko.cz%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000688.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000701.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Czech language</H1> + <B>alexandr at vasilenko.cz</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Czech%20language&In-Reply-To=%3C7e96d4341c682e7db29ad85bfd027f97.squirrel%40vasilenko.cz%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Czech language">alexandr at vasilenko.cz + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 16:31:31 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000688.html">[Mageia-discuss] UNSUBSCRIBE +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000701.html">[Mageia-discuss] Czech language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#699">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#699">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#699">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#699">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello, + +I would like patricipate at this project, I using Mandriva for 6 years and +Mageia will be good replacement. + +Is there somebody from Czech republic? I can translate to czech and make +web presentation in czech language. + +Sincerely Alexandr + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000688.html">[Mageia-discuss] UNSUBSCRIBE +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000701.html">[Mageia-discuss] Czech language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#699">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#699">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#699">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#699">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000700.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000700.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..314264cf8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000700.html @@ -0,0 +1,192 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FThank_you_-_Merci_-_Danke_-_Gracias_-_%3F%3D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fb%3FR3JhemllIC0gT2JyaWdhZG8gLSDRgdC/0LDRgdC40LHQvg%3D%3D%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3C1285166462.26110.174.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000701.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000712.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FThank_you_-_Merci_-_Danke_-_Gracias_-_%3F%3D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fb%3FR3JhemllIC0gT2JyaWdhZG8gLSDRgdC/0LDRgdC40LHQvg%3D%3D%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3C1285166462.26110.174.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 16:41:02 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000701.html">[Mageia-discuss] Czech language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000712.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#700">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#700">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#700">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#700">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 21 septembre 2010 à 16:53 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : + +><i> Would it make sense to also have a section for "mageia" domain owners to +</I>><i> track domain owners who are willing to cooperate? You will eventually +</I>><i> have to do this anyway. I would also consider this also a type of offer +</I>><i> of cooperation and help. +</I> +Personally, I think we should not collect all domain names to give them +to the association : + +1) each domain name will need admin time. Either to manage ( ie, set up +vhost, setup the zone, add a entry to the zone etc ), or to renew. While +renewing 1 domain name every year is easy, renewing 10 or 20 on 10 to 20 +different resellers, for different prices and so on will be quite +annoying. + +2) this will also generate work for people in charge of comptability, +and we know that people doing the work of a CFO are a scarce ressources +( CFO may not be the proper word, but I didn't found better ). + +3) too much domain name will cost money. I think that what ever we have, +money would likely better used everywhere than domain name. + + +Next it depend on what we do for the domain, but basically, either it is +use for http, or for mail. + +If we use for http : + +4) too much domain will be a pain from a ssl point of view. If we start +to need ssl for a site, and there is 10 Vhost for it, we will just have +10 time the work to renew certificates. + +5) too much domain will also requires more work for simple http, since +we will have lots of them. + +6) too much different url will just mean more confusion. I may also fear +this could be seen by major search engine as unethic SEO, and thus be +punished ( since link farm is a commonly used technic to try to hijack +some keywords ). But Google, Yahoo and Bing systems are closed source, +so I do not know. + +If we use for mail : + +7) too much domain will simply mean more spam. If we offer multiple +email ( like "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">example at mageia.org</A>, and .de, and .fr and .cn, and so on ), +email will simply appear in more list, and therefore be more spammed. + +8) too much domain will simply mean more work. Again, if we use every +domain for mail be it a multi domain alias, or worst, let the choice, we +will need to take this in account in lots of place in the information +system, and this will mean more work, more complexity, more fragility. + +9) and of course, too much domain name, like for websites will mean more +confusion. + +And finally, as I said before, we had a hard time finding a name because +because all the good one have been already used ( or trademarked ). +While people do not frivolously trademark name ( too costly ), there is +lots of domain name that are taken and finally unused. So by acting like +the others, we are simply causing trouble to others internet users. A +web site about magic trick could perfectly use mageia.tld without +causing trouble to us. A restaurant, anything could also do it. + +So + +10) by registering every possible variation, we are acting selfishly +toward others netizens. + + +So I do not really see what having lots of domain name would bring. +Maybe I do not see because I am root on the main dns server, maybe +because I already have my own domain name since so long time, I do not +know. + +The only answer I got was about security. But seriously, security of +what ? Protecting from people doing phishing ? Bank already fail at +this, and you think we can ? + +Protecting from people misusing the name ? there is trademark laws and +various others way ( not to mention that I do not see much to misuse at +the moment ). + +And frankly, there is too much variation beside top level domain to be +exhaustive to protect anything. + + +So for the 10 reasons I gave, and because I see almost no benefit, I +think the association shouldn't manage so much domains. I cannot prevent +people from renting them, but my 2 last point ( 9 and 10 ) still apply, +IMHO. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000701.html">[Mageia-discuss] Czech language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000712.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#700">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#700">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#700">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#700">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000701.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000701.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f0a8c585e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000701.html @@ -0,0 +1,122 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Czech language + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Czech%20language&In-Reply-To=%3C201009221648.01417.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000699.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000700.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Czech language</H1> + <B>Olivier Méjean</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Czech%20language&In-Reply-To=%3C201009221648.01417.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Czech language">omejean at yahoo.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 16:48:01 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000699.html">[Mageia-discuss] Czech language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000700.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#701">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#701">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#701">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#701">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE><A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">alexandr at vasilenko.cz</A> a écrit +><i> Hello, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I would like patricipate at this project, I using Mandriva for 6 years and +</I>><i> Mageia will be good replacement. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is there somebody from Czech republic? I can translate to czech and make +</I>><i> web presentation in czech language. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sincerely Alexandr +</I>><i> +</I> +Hi + +Welcome onboard + +Please fill the temporary wiki : <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki">http://mageia.org/wiki</A> +We are first counting ourselves. + +Thanks :) + +-- +Olivier Méjean +Président de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux +<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A> +twitter : obagoom +identi.ca : goom +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000699.html">[Mageia-discuss] Czech language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000700.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#701">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#701">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#701">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#701">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000702.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000702.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7e90afffc --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000702.html @@ -0,0 +1,128 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FThank_you_-_Merci_-_Danke_-_Gracias_-_%3F%3D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fb%3FR3JhemllIC0gT2JyaWdhZG8gLSDRgdC/0LDRgdC40LHQvg%3D%3D%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3C1285167499.26110.209.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000773.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000704.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FThank_you_-_Merci_-_Danke_-_Gracias_-_%3F%3D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fb%3FR3JhemllIC0gT2JyaWdhZG8gLSDRgdC/0LDRgdC40LHQvg%3D%3D%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3C1285167499.26110.209.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 16:58:19 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000773.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000704.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#702">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#702">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#702">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#702">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 21 septembre 2010 à 18:18 -0300, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A> a écrit : +><i> Hello, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Very good to know that the wiki is already available, and that is with +</I>><i> the +</I>><i> software DokuWiki. +</I> +The wiki is still a temporary one, as written in the banner. + +So dokuwiki was taken because it was faster to setup without database, +and because it was already installed on ryu ( the main plf server, +hosting mageia.org for the moment ). + +But this is by no mean a wiki that is meant to last or serve for +anything besides organisation of the contribution ( for the moment, at +least, the way we installed it ). + +We will erase later, once a more definitive wiki will be setup. + +And please, do not start a 50 mails discussion about the software that +should be used, because we first need to gather requirements about it, +and see with sysadmins if this is ok. 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I did also notice a lot mail in favor of 'cauldron'. + +The list, # mean the word is definitely discard (see the comment to find why). + +# Abracadabra - Way too long +Agora - too common, and <A HREF="http://www.agora.gouv.fr/">http://www.agora.gouv.fr/</A> +Alakazam - like the pokemon ? +alchemy - hard to pronouce +Baker +bakery +# blender - it is the name of a well know software +brewery, brew - religious issue +Bubbling +campus +cauldron - taken by sourcemage (is this an issue ?) +Chef +concert +crucible +# Delphi - refer to Borland delphi +Dreamspot +edge +elixir +Enchantment +fire +fireworks +foundry +genesis +harmony +# Hephaestus - complicated +Infusion +kettle +kitchen - isn't too refering to cooker ? +Manna +# mathetria - mean a disciple (female), complicated +# mercurial - name of a RCS, will cause mistakes +mercury +mill +mixer +Mystique - is it correct in english ? +# Olympus - Camera trademark +oven +Pan +# Phoenix - too complicated, will cause error "œ" +# pioneer - trademark +Potion room - one uniq word would better +# Pot - "pott" refer to drugs +Presto +Prometheus - "Prometheus is a fictional character in the Marvel Universe", I +suggest to avoid... :) +quicksilver +rookery +# root - will cause mistake with the user +stove +Synergy - a free software +# Ta Da! - one word would make our life easier +# Tea party - politics issue +testing - like debian, no personnality +transmutation +twig +# unity - name of a distribution (mdv/mageia based !) +Vesuvius +Vulcan +Vulcano +wok +works - like Ms product ? + + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/6c865c6c/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000697.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000709.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#703">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#703">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#703">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#703">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000704.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000704.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cc1f8bc79 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000704.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Adding%20name%20in%20wiki&In-Reply-To=%3C201009221036.23260.dlucio%40okay.com.mx%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000702.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000705.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki</H1> + <B>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Adding%20name%20in%20wiki&In-Reply-To=%3C201009221036.23260.dlucio%40okay.com.mx%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki">dlucio at okay.com.mx + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 17:36:22 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000702.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000705.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#704">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#704">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#704">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#704">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Looking in wiki + +i want to help in the spread of mageia here in mexico, what group should i be +added? 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+</I> +Maybe a group "Marketing" should be added to the Wiki? I read in a +thread that there's a marketing pro offering to collaborate... I guess +"spread the word" = marketing + + +tavillo1980 +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000704.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#705">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#705">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#705">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#705">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000706.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000706.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fee753d4a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000706.html @@ -0,0 +1,124 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Adding%20name%20in%20wiki&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikfa3%3DGL6OXy%2BY77arweDUJxVi9145gjT0%2BFzf7%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000717.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000707.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki</H1> + <B>Sinner from the Prairy</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Adding%20name%20in%20wiki&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikfa3%3DGL6OXy%2BY77arweDUJxVi9145gjT0%2BFzf7%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki">sinnerbofh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 17:43:13 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000707.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#706">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#706">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#706">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#706">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>> wrote: +><i> Looking in wiki +</I>><i> +</I>><i> i want to help in the spread of mageia here in mexico, what group should i be +</I>><i> added? +</I> +Hola Luis, + +I believe that you can add yourself to: Mageia Supporter and/or Users +community management + +Also, remember to join Blogdrake.net, currently Mandriva official +forum for Spanish-speaking users, and pretty soon Mageia official +forum for Spanish-speaking users. + + +Salut, +Sinner +-- +Sinner from the Prairy - <A HREF="http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/">http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/</A> - +<A HREF="http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/">http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/</A> +Linux User # 89976 - Visit BlogDrake:  <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net">http://blogdrake.net</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000707.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#706">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#706">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#706">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#706">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000707.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000707.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..811973ffa --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000707.html @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Adding%20name%20in%20wiki&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikxztgX6Up4iz7Si1Ew%2BE8h1g1BNVuAMptBV9h1%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000706.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000708.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Adding%20name%20in%20wiki&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikxztgX6Up4iz7Si1Ew%2BE8h1g1BNVuAMptBV9h1%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 17:44:18 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000706.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000708.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#707">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#707">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#707">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#707">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 22 September 2010 18:36, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>> wrote: +><i> Looking in wiki +</I>><i> +</I>><i> i want to help in the spread of mageia here in mexico, what group should i be +</I>><i> added? +</I> +I'd say: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=supporter">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=supporter</A> (see the +description there). + +><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000706.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000708.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#707">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#707">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#707">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#707">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000708.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000708.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6dca21815 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000708.html @@ -0,0 +1,120 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Adding%20name%20in%20wiki&In-Reply-To=%3C201009221753.32570.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000707.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000719.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki</H1> + <B>Olivier Méjean</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Adding%20name%20in%20wiki&In-Reply-To=%3C201009221753.32570.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki">omejean at yahoo.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 17:53:32 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000707.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000719.html">[Mageia-discuss] Foundation mailing list [Was: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..?] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#708">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#708">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#708">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#708">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz a écrit +><i> Looking in wiki +</I>><i> +</I>><i> i want to help in the spread of mageia here in mexico, what group should i +</I>><i> be added? +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +maybe Users communities team ? + +-- +Olivier Méjean +Président de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux +<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A> +twitter : obagoom +identi.ca : goom +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000707.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000719.html">[Mageia-discuss] Foundation mailing list [Was: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..?] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#708">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#708">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#708">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#708">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000709.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000709.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e89ac04cb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000709.html @@ -0,0 +1,194 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C374162.86215.qm%40web29619.mail.ird.yahoo.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000703.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000711.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Catalin Florin RUSSEN</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C374162.86215.qm%40web29619.mail.ird.yahoo.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">cfrussen at yahoo.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 17:58:36 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000703.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000711.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#709">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#709">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#709">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#709">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Why we don't just edit a page on the wiki with all this proposed names, and one +the list is "complete" to propose a pool and vote for the one we like most? + +Cheers, +Florin + + + + +________________________________ +From: "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">borg1911-n6 at yahoo.com</A>" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">borg1911-n6 at yahoo.com</A>> +To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +Sent: Wed, 22 September, 2010 17:11:21 +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + + +Hi all, I am new here but "cauldron" is a good name. + + +-Nex6 + + + + +________________________________ +From: Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> +To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 5:57:06 PM +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + +* Olivier Thauvin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>) wrote: +><i> * Olivier Thauvin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > Hi, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I am in charge of finding the replacement name for "cooker", eg the +</I>><i> > development version of Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks you for your suggestions. +</I> +I just sort all suggestions as promise I give you a summary. + +Please, limit your post on this list, this thread has cause enought +noise already. + +If you have a good reason to eliminate a word, or want more explanation, +mail me directly or sent me a message on IRC (Nanar, Freenode), I'll +post a sumarry here if need. + +I did learn a lot of words ! + +I made some choice for you (sorry): +- read your mail, then take decision according comment +- check quickly on google for major conflicts (such as widelly know + trademark, well know software, ...). + +My favorites are word related to room or recipient (to push a change +in...). I did also notice a lot mail in favor of 'cauldron'. + +The list, # mean the word is definitely discard (see the comment to find why). + +# Abracadabra - Way too long +Agora - too common, and <A HREF="http://www.agora.gouv.fr/">http://www.agora.gouv.fr/</A> +Alakazam - like the pokemon ? +alchemy - hard to pronouce +Baker +bakery +# blender - it is the name of a well know software +brewery, brew - religious issue +Bubbling +campus +cauldron - taken by sourcemage (is this an issue ?) +Chef +concert +crucible +# Delphi - refer to Borland delphi +Dreamspot +edge +elixir +Enchantment +fire +fireworks +foundry +genesis +harmony +# Hephaestus - complicated +Infusion +kettle +kitchen - isn't too refering to cooker ? +Manna +# mathetria - mean a disciple (female), complicated +# mercurial - name of a RCS, will cause mistakes +mercury +mill +mixer +Mystique - is it correct in english ? +# Olympus - Camera trademark +oven +Pan +# Phoenix - too complicated, will cause error "œ" +# pioneer - trademark +Potion room - one uniq word would better +# Pot - "pott" refer to drugs +Presto +Prometheus - "Prometheus is a fictional character in the Marvel Universe", I +suggest to avoid... :) +quicksilver +rookery +# root - will cause mistake with the user +stove +Synergy - a free software +# Ta Da! - one word would make our life easier +# Tea party - politics issue +testing - like debian, no personnality +transmutation +twig +# unity - name of a distribution (mdv/mageia based !) +Vesuvius +Vulcan +Vulcano +wok +works - like Ms product ? + + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ + + + + +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/1264c139/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000703.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000711.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#709">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#709">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#709">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#709">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000710.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000710.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1a20b7e16 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000710.html @@ -0,0 +1,259 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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[Was: forking mandriva]</H1> + <B>Per Øyvind Karlsen</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BCooker%5D%20Re%3A%20Transparency%20%26%20open%20invitation%20to%0A%20a%20united%20foundation..%3F%20%5BWas%3A%20forking%20mandriva%5D&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DxXyQ%2B4GRyBbqdRNM40yhVePJvBWejd_fKedPU%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]">peroyvind at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 18:09:10 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000713.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#710">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#710">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#710">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#710">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/22 Jerome Quelin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jquelin at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> On 10/09/21 21:49 +0200, Per Řyvind Karlsen wrote: +</I>>><i> > You will leave your newborn in the "hands" of the same company whose +</I>>><i> > lack of direction caused this situation? +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Maybe I'm a "little" paranoid, but i think we should listen +</I>>><i> > ex-employes / developers. They know the sh*t from the very inside. +</I>>><i> Ah, yes, two ex-employees / developers which were actively involved +</I>>><i> with the development of the distribution over so many years.. Uh, oh, +</I>>><i> wait, no they weren't. +</I>>><i> I'm questioning whether they actually grasp all of the work required +</I>>><i> to put together a distribution. I also find it odd when I see +</I>>><i> statements from them on IRC which seems to be in conflict with others +</I>>><i> involved with this that they intend on going in a different direction +</I>>><i> independent of Mandriva. With all the people being brought aboard with +</I>>><i> Mageia from the Mandriva Linux community, I find it hard to believe +</I>>><i> that there has been established a consensus about this with all of the +</I>>><i> people involved and that they really want to do everything on their +</I>>><i> own and not care about keeping relations or anything with what they've +</I>>><i> been involved with on actual community basis and over longer times +</I>>><i> than either of these two.. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> since you were not part of the discussion*s*, what you believe doesn't +</I>><i> really matter. i can tell you that there is a consensus to release a +</I>><i> community distribution. in fact, it was more of a consensus: it was the +</I>><i> stated goal around which the rest of the project was born. +</I>Interesting fact you point out there, why wasn't I part of it? Why was +I excluded? +Given my history of being one of the oldest and most active +contributors, part of the assembly and being the main person behind +the foundation proposal back in 2007 and actively pursuing it since, I +even brought in an offer from someone to fund it and proposed this to +the same people behind this fork, around the same time as when they +started discussing it, and I wasn't just ignored, I was even +considered a threath. + +It seems to be rather obvious why I wasn't part of the discussions and +was intentionally excluded, just as it illustrates that the discussion +didn't really involve the whole community. + +I anyways don't see why anything I believe about Mageia is of any less +relevance than what you believe about Mandriva. +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Are you guys *really* planning on doing the whole distribution on your +</I>>><i> own totally independent of Mandriva without any interest of +</I>>><i> collaborating? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> yes. period. +</I>Your short, firm and decissive response to this obviously seems to +lack any proper consensus or support from the community. Obviously you +have something that you really need to work out.. +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> To me, these responses of Romain and Nicolas seems to confirm all the +</I>>><i> questions I raised earlier in this thread, suggesting that the fork +</I>>><i> and their motivations are personal and not out of concern and care for +</I>>><i> the community, despite these motivations officially given. I guess +</I>>><i> there's a reason for why they avoided these critical questions raised +</I>>><i> towards them, and rather chose to attack constructive attempts at +</I>>><i> doing what's in the best interest of the community in stead. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> i am just a contributor, who was part of the discussions before the +</I>><i> launch of mageia. i am not a former mandriva/edge-it employee, but yet i +</I>><i> totally agree with the various opinions stated here: currently, mandriva +</I>><i> (the society) has failed to properly communicate with the community.  we +</I>><i> were never aware of what was going on, what were the plans, what were +</I>><i> the goals, etc. +</I>??? +This doesn't relate at all to what you're replying to. +><i> +</I>><i> please take that into account, and the frustration it created. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> now, do you really think that mandriva's ceo coming and saying "guys you +</I>><i> are right, let's create something together" is to be taken seriously? +</I>It's a response to an invitation to create something together with and +to interest of everyone. If it's your desire to create something like +this already, why would you not be interested? What ulteriour motives +do you think would be hidden behinds this? If it's not serious, then +what are the consequences you'd be fearing when it's something that +wouldn't make you dependent on it, but rather getting support from it? +Worst case scenario would be to not get the support you didn't expect +for creating something. +><i> +</I>><i> so, for now, i think that mageia should start alone. it might be more +</I>><i> difficult, but results will our owns, and what we'll manage to do from +</I>><i> this situation. and if mandriva is really gueniously interested in a +</I>><i> foundation, it will do whatever is needed to make sure mageia succeeds. +</I>><i> in one year from now, we'll have a better view on what's going on, and +</I>><i> if mandriva favors a real, independent community mentality (not to +</I>><i> mention the fact that nerves will have settle). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> that is: we will judge mandriva for what it's doing, not it's saying. +</I>><i> facts, not words. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> But sure, I've only been actively involved with the development of +</I>>><i> this *community* distribution and on several other levels for a decade +</I>>><i> now, being amongst those involved for the longest time, while also +</I>>><i> being an ex-employee myself, I've primarily been active through the +</I>>><i> community independent of my employment nor imposing personal feelings +</I>>><i> towards company on the community. And I can also truly claim that I +</I>>><i> have an absolute full understanding of all the work an complexity +</I>>><i> involved in putting together the whole distribution and put tons of +</I>>><i> more hours into this on my sparetime and out of interest for +</I>>><i> contributing to the community, making me quite aware of the fact that +</I>>><i> you'll have a pretty darn hard time doing this and organizing the +</I>>><i> whole thing on your own. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> good for you. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> but you know, this is a fork - we announced *our* decision, and people +</I>><i> join *if*they*want*. i did not handle a gun over people to force them to +</I>><i> come on various mageia mailing-lists and propose their help. it was +</I>><i> their choice. you may not agree, but please respect their choice. same +</I>><i> as i respect your choice: you prefer continuing with mandriva, fine. and +</I>><i> i won't come and try to convince you over and over: we're grown-ups, and +</I>><i> can make our opinion ourselve. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> In all these claims about this being a community project and it being +</I>>><i> independent off people's employment and all, would you really find +</I>>><i> disgruntled ex-employees which has only been involved in this project +</I>>><i> through employment as the most trustworthy characters? How much time +</I>>><i> do they actually plan to invest themself into this project on their +</I>>><i> sparetime now that they're not employed by Mandriva? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> this is none of your business. really. +</I>><i> they will speak about that if they want, but otherwise, please stay away +</I>><i> from their private life. +</I>Questioning people's involvement and dedication to a project is to dig +into people's personal life? +Do you have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy for Mageia..? +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> I can't really start telling how provoked I am over seeing this +</I>>><i> childish and truly community hostile attitude, or about the claims +</I>>><i> about through the liquidation of Edge-IT all of the talents and +</I>>><i> important people involved in development of the distribution +</I>>><i> disappearing, guess what, the majority of the staff working on the +</I>>><i> distribution for quite some time has actually been employed at +</I>>><i> Conectiva, not Edge-IT! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> once again: if you think it's better to follow up mandriva, then please +</I>><i> do so. what we did was community-friendly: after having understood that +</I>><i> a reconciliation could not be done at this moment, it's way better to +</I>><i> say "good-bye, we're going on our own", rather than rotting and +</I>><i> spreading bad will / mood in the project. +</I>I could say something about the order of occurence on "good-bye, +we're going on our own" and "spreading bad will / mood in the +project", but whatever.. +><i> +</I>><i> and who knows, maybe there will be a reconciliation later on. but i can +</I>><i> tell you that it's not possible right now. trying to force a +</I>><i> reconciliation won't work - it doesn't work like that. +</I>Forcing? It was a constructive discussion and invitation which +oviously is of interest to all parties, the opposition and rejection +from some people within your project seems to go right against much of +the motivation and goals for others involved with it. +But sure, deciding on and any participation in this is something +that's for you to decide on *together* with the rest of your +community. + +I don't plan on ending the discussion nor trying to collaborate as +much as possible.. + +-- +Regards, +Per Øyvind +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000713.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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I did also notice a lot mail in favor of 'cauldron'. + +The list, # mean the word is definitely discard (see the comment to find why). + +# Abracadabra - Way too long +Agora - too common, and <A HREF="http://www.agora.gouv.fr/">http://www.agora.gouv.fr/</A> +Alakazam - like the pokemon ? +alchemy - hard to pronouce +Baker +bakery +# blender - it is the name of a well know software +brewery, brew - religious issue +Bubbling +campus +cauldron - taken by sourcemage (is this an issue ?) +Chef +concert +crucible +# Delphi - refer to Borland delphi +Dreamspot +edge +elixir +Enchantment +fire +fireworks +foundry +genesis +harmony +# Hephaestus - complicated +Infusion +kettle +kitchen - isn't too refering to cooker ? +Manna +# mathetria - mean a disciple (female), complicated +# mercurial - name of a RCS, will cause mistakes +mercury +mill +mixer +Mystique - is it correct in english ? +# Olympus - Camera trademark +oven +Pan +# Phoenix - too complicated, will cause error "œ" +# pioneer - trademark +Potion room - one uniq word would better +# Pot - "pott" refer to drugs +Presto +Prometheus - "Prometheus is a fictional character in the Marvel Universe", I +suggest to avoid... :) +quicksilver +rookery +# root - will cause mistake with the user +stove +Synergy - a free software +# Ta Da! - one word would make our life easier +# Tea party - politics issue +testing - like debian, no personnality +transmutation +twig +# unity - name of a distribution (mdv/mageia based !) +Vesuvius +Vulcan +Vulcano +wok +works - like Ms product ? + + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/bf4f3ced/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000709.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000714.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#711">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#711">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#711">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#711">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000712.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000712.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..aa5f8141e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000712.html @@ -0,0 +1,275 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FThank_you_-_Merci_-_Danke_-_Gracias_-_%3F%3D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fb%3FR3JhemllIC0gT2JyaWdhZG8gLSDRgdC/0LDRgdC40LHQvg%3D%3D%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7d9rd%24d2f%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000700.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000759.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FThank_you_-_Merci_-_Danke_-_Gracias_-_%3F%3D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fb%3FR3JhemllIC0gT2JyaWdhZG8gLSDRgdC/0LDRgdC40LHQvg%3D%3D%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7d9rd%24d2f%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 18:11:25 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000700.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#712">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#712">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#712">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#712">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-09-22 10:41, Michael Scherer a écrit : +><i> Le mardi 21 septembre 2010 à 16:53 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Would it make sense to also have a section for "mageia" domain owners to +</I>>><i> track domain owners who are willing to cooperate? You will eventually +</I>>><i> have to do this anyway. I would also consider this also a type of offer +</I>>><i> of cooperation and help. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Personally, I think we should not collect all domain names to give them +</I>><i> to the association : +</I> +The offer was to pass on the domain if the Mageia project wanted to have +it. It adds flexibility + +><i> +</I>><i> 1) each domain name will need admin time. Either to manage ( ie, set up +</I>><i> vhost, setup the zone, add a entry to the zone etc ), or to renew. While +</I>><i> renewing 1 domain name every year is easy, renewing 10 or 20 on 10 to 20 +</I>><i> different resellers, for different prices and so on will be quite +</I>><i> annoying. +</I> +When passing off a domain, the reseller is transferred. You then +consolidate all under on reseller. I do this all the time. + +><i> +</I>><i> 2) this will also generate work for people in charge of comptability, +</I>><i> and we know that people doing the work of a CFO are a scarce ressources +</I>><i> ( CFO may not be the proper word, but I didn't found better ). +</I> +You set a pointer to the main site and there is no need to use the other +domain names if you do not wish. + +><i> +</I>><i> 3) too much domain name will cost money. I think that what ever we have, +</I>><i> money would likely better used everywhere than domain name. +</I> +Yes you are right. Which is why some of us registered and are willing to +offer these back to the Mageia project if it wishes. If the Mageia +project wishes these, then the project will have to build this into its +business model. The same would have applied if the Mageia project had +decided from the outset to purchase all of the necessary TLD'S. The +project would've had to budget this into its working +organizational/financial model. + +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Next it depend on what we do for the domain, but basically, either it is +</I>><i> use for http, or for mail. +</I> +Mostly for http redirect at first. It depends on the needs. + +><i> +</I>><i> If we use for http : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 4) too much domain will be a pain from a ssl point of view. If we start +</I>><i> to need ssl for a site, and there is 10 Vhost for it, we will just have +</I>><i> 10 time the work to renew certificates. +</I> +Not applicable if you redirect the domains. You would then only have to +establish certificates for those domains that you intend to use. + +><i> +</I>><i> 5) too much domain will also requires more work for simple http, since +</I>><i> we will have lots of them. +</I> +Not applicable if you set a pointer. This will also depend on the amount +of website developers help who have signed up. + +><i> +</I>><i> 6) too much different url will just mean more confusion. I may also fear +</I>><i> this could be seen by major search engine as unethic SEO, and thus be +</I>><i> punished ( since link farm is a commonly used technic to try to hijack +</I>><i> some keywords ). But Google, Yahoo and Bing systems are closed source, +</I>><i> so I do not know. +</I> +This is not unethic as all business on the internet do this as common +practice. Try to type in URL's for any major corporation, or Yahoo!, +Google, Bing etc. + +><i> +</I>><i> If we use for mail : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 7) too much domain will simply mean more spam. If we offer multiple +</I>><i> email ( like "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">example at mageia.org</A>, and .de, and .fr and .cn, and so on ), +</I>><i> email will simply appear in more list, and therefore be more spammed. +</I> +Domains do not have to be activated for mail. If a domain is not +activated for mail service then the mail bounces back to the sender. +This is done all of the time. + +><i> +</I>><i> 8) too much domain will simply mean more work. Again, if we use every +</I>><i> domain for mail be it a multi domain alias, or worst, let the choice, we +</I>><i> will need to take this in account in lots of place in the information +</I>><i> system, and this will mean more work, more complexity, more fragility. +</I> +You have already covered these points up above. #8 is not a new point. + +><i> +</I>><i> 9) and of course, too much domain name, like for websites will mean more +</I>><i> confusion. +</I> +It means less confusion. mageia.org will lead to main site; mageia.ca +does lead to main site; magiea.nl would lead to main site; mageia.net +would lead to main site; mageia.info would lead to main site ... How +would this be confusing? + +><i> +</I>><i> And finally, as I said before, we had a hard time finding a name because +</I>><i> because all the good one have been already used ( or trademarked ). +</I>><i> While people do not frivolously trademark name ( too costly ), there is +</I>><i> lots of domain name that are taken and finally unused. So by acting like +</I>><i> the others, we are simply causing trouble to others internet users. A +</I>><i> web site about magic trick could perfectly use mageia.tld without +</I>><i> causing trouble to us. A restaurant, anything could also do it. +</I> +By Trademarking and adopting/registering the domain names attached to +your trademark you are actually doing what would be expected of a good +solid business model that Banks would like to see for example, load +applications as well as for grants where government would see a well +organized domain tree and trademarked name. + +By doing business the way that you advocate, you actually lower the +fidelity that one would assume of a serious group. + +><i> +</I>><i> So +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 10) by registering every possible variation, we are acting selfishly +</I>><i> toward others netizens. +</I> +You have already covered these points up above with #9. #10 is not a new +point. + +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So I do not really see what having lots of domain name would bring. +</I>><i> Maybe I do not see because I am root on the main dns server, maybe +</I>><i> because I already have my own domain name since so long time, I do not +</I>><i> know. +</I> +I am not root on a DNS server but have owned domain names for a while +like you have and hold a different view than yours. + +><i> +</I>><i> The only answer I got was about security. But seriously, security of +</I>><i> what ? Protecting from people doing phishing ? Bank already fail at +</I>><i> this, and you think we can ? +</I> +Who mentioned security? This is all about flexibility. + +><i> +</I>><i> Protecting from people misusing the name ? there is trademark laws and +</I>><i> various others way ( not to mention that I do not see much to misuse at +</I>><i> the moment ). +</I> +You will be of a different opinion once your trademark application has +been approved. + +><i> +</I>><i> And frankly, there is too much variation beside top level domain to be +</I>><i> exhaustive to protect anything. +</I> +It is not a matter of registering ALL permutations. It is a matter of +having at one's disposal more of the mageia.XXX domains if at all +possible. This will give you more web presence for name branding purposes. + +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So for the 10 reasons I gave, and because I see almost no benefit, I +</I>><i> think the association shouldn't manage so much domains. I cannot prevent +</I>><i> people from renting them, but my 2 last point ( 9 and 10 ) still apply, +</I>><i> IMHO. +</I> +You have 8 points in your list and my reasoning to go along with these 8. + +Discussions and exchange of ideas are always a healthy act. + +Cheers + +Marc + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000700.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#712">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#712">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#712">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#712">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000713.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000713.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..107b07ae4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000713.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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[Was: forking mandriva]</H1> + <B>Tux99</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BCooker%5D%20Re%3A%20Transparency%20%26%20open%20invitation%20to%0A%20a%20united%20foundation..%3F%20%5BWas%3A%20forking%20mandriva%5D&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1009221812170.32130-100000%40outpost-priv%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]">tux99-mga at uridium.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 18:15:11 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000710.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000720.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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He has already posted a final list on this mailist for people to +see. It was collected over a period of a couple or more days. + +Apparement, la liste paraîtrera et passera au vote sur quelque page du +site ou Wiki? Pas certain. + +Salut! + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000716.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000725.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#715">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#715">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#715">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#715">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000716.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000716.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..27e038e27 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000716.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922182350.5ad82b8a%40gaia%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000728.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000715.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>André Salaün</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922182350.5ad82b8a%40gaia%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">andresalaun at aliceadsl.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 18:23:50 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000728.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000715.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#716">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#716">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#716">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#716">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:10:00 -0700 (PDT) +Nex6 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">borg1911-n6 at yahoo.com</A>> a écrit: + +><i> Thats a good idea, but I was "voting up" what many others had already said. +</I>><i> that: cauldron was a good choice. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> or just select a few names that from the list below and start a new thread just +</I>><i> for 'voting'. at the end of a voting period. name choosen. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ________________________________ +</I>><i> From: Catalin Florin RUSSEN <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cfrussen at yahoo.co.uk</A>> +</I>><i> To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 8:58:36 AM +</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Why we don't just edit a page on the wiki with all this proposed names, and one +</I>><i> the list is "complete" to propose a pool and vote for the one we like most? +</I>><i> +</I> +Good idea. +-- +A.Salaün + + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000728.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000715.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#716">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#716">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#716">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#716">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000717.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000717.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..76b173747 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000717.html @@ -0,0 +1,114 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Adding%20name%20in%20wiki&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7dak1%24he4%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000705.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000706.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Adding%20name%20in%20wiki&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7dak1%24he4%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 18:24:33 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000705.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000706.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#717">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#717">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#717">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#717">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-09-22 11:41, Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli a écrit : +>><i> Looking in wiki +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> i want to help in the spread of mageia here in mexico, what group should i be +</I>>><i> added? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe a group "Marketing" should be added to the Wiki? I read in a +</I>><i> thread that there's a marketing pro offering to collaborate... I guess +</I>><i> "spread the word" = marketing +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> tavillo1980 +</I> +Marketing has already been suggested a couple of times. There will +definitely need to be a maketing "arm" of Mageia. Could this be added to +the Wiki? I don't think that registering in the "supporter" section +really addresses the marketing side of things. Being a supporter for +advocacy's sake and signing up for marketing are two different things. + +<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=start">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=start</A> + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000705.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000706.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#717">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#717">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#717">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#717">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000718.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000718.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..32f107054 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000718.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1009221825100.32130-100000%40outpost-priv%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Each +</I>>><i> party have different yet convergent interests, and it take time to make +</I>>><i> them converge again. +</I>><i> Yes, maybe we need to work out some more issues in both camps first, +</I>><i> leaving the invitation on the table and get back to it when we're both +</I>><i> more ready. :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We could perhaps revive the old <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">foundation at zarb.org</A> list for anyone +</I>><i> who'd like to dicuss this in a more constructive manner and actual +</I>><i> interest meanwhile without distracting others too much though. :) +</I>I've opened it up now, available for anyone with interest to subscribe: +<A HREF="https://www.zarb.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation">https://www.zarb.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation</A> + +I'll leave you guys on mageia mailing list in peace on the matter from +now on. ;) +-- +Regards, +Per Øyvind +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000708.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000723.html">[Mageia-discuss] Foundation mailing list [Was: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..?] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#719">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#719">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#719">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#719">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000720.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000720.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..578960e31 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000720.html @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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[Was: forking mandriva]</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BCooker%5D%20Re%3A%20Transparency%20%26%20open%20invitation%20to%0A%20a%20united%20foundation..%3F%20%5BWas%3A%20forking%20mandriva%5D&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7db6g%24kec%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 18:34:23 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000713.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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You will most likely think more cleanly by +then and be able to think more rationally. It is obvious that the +Mandriva debacle is still too fresh. + +This line of thread is actually not too inspiring for us sitting on the +sidelines. + +Let's concentrate more on getting the project organized and expect that +Mandriva will not be a participant. + +Cheers + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000713.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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They think that the subject +line "New name for cooker" is still being discussed. Less of a problem +for the Usenet/Gmane readers. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000718.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000722.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#721">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#721">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#721">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#721">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000722.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000722.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..99bac6202 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000722.html @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C973084.50480.qm%40web59502.mail.ac4.yahoo.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000721.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000724.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Nex6</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C973084.50480.qm%40web59502.mail.ac4.yahoo.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">borg1911-n6 at yahoo.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 18:43:38 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000721.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000724.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#722">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#722">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#722">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#722">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + + + + +________________________________ +From: Marc Paré <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>> +To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 9:37:50 AM +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + +Le 2010-09-22 12:27, Tux99 a �crit : +><i> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Kira wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> ��� Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:10:00 +0800, Nex6<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">borg1911-n6 at yahoo.com</A>>������: +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Thats a good idea, but I was "voting up" what many others had already +</I>>>><i> said. +</I>>>><i> that: cauldron was a good choice. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> or just select a few names that from the list below and start a new +</I>>>><i> thread just +</I>>>><i> for 'voting'. at the end of a voting period. name choosen. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Voting should be done with more open voting system. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> By mailing list would make less people can vote and cause everyone +</I>>><i> using mailing list flooded +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> with voting mail, which might be annoying. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Maybe some voting web function put on the homepage is better. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Nex6, Kira, Olivier Thauvin is rorganizing this and he will set up +</I>><i> appropiate voting, he said so yesterday here in thi thread, so please +</I>><i> wait for further news from him. +</I> +We will need to keep repeating this as new people on the mailist do not +have all of the messages from this thread. They think that the subject +line "New name for cooker" is still being discussed. Less of a problem +for the Usenet/Gmane readers. + +Marc + + +that's what happened to me.... as I just joined the list last nite. + +-Nex6 +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/e6219cc2/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000721.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000724.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#722">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#722">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#722">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#722">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000723.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000723.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..34b55c2ff --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000723.html @@ -0,0 +1,130 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Foundation mailing list [Was: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..?] + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Foundation%20mailing%20list%20%5BWas%3A%20Transparency%20%26%0A%20open%20invitation%20to%20a%20united%20foundation..%3F%5D&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7dbqb%24ngr%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000719.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000731.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Foundation mailing list [Was: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..?]</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Foundation%20mailing%20list%20%5BWas%3A%20Transparency%20%26%0A%20open%20invitation%20to%20a%20united%20foundation..%3F%5D&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7dbqb%24ngr%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Foundation mailing list [Was: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..?]">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 18:44:59 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000719.html">[Mageia-discuss] Foundation mailing list [Was: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..?] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#723">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#723">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#723">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#723">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-09-22 12:33, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit : +><i> 2010/9/22 Per Øyvind Karlsen<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">peroyvind at mandriva.org</A>>: +</I>>><i> 2010/9/22 Michael Scherer<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at mandriva.org</A>>: +</I>>>><i> So I think we should keep this list for cooker discussion, and let +</I>>>><i> people organize themselves before discussing of collaboration. Each +</I>>>><i> party have different yet convergent interests, and it take time to make +</I>>>><i> them converge again. +</I>>><i> Yes, maybe we need to work out some more issues in both camps first, +</I>>><i> leaving the invitation on the table and get back to it when we're both +</I>>><i> more ready. :) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> We could perhaps revive the old <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">foundation at zarb.org</A> list for anyone +</I>>><i> who'd like to dicuss this in a more constructive manner and actual +</I>>><i> interest meanwhile without distracting others too much though. :) +</I>><i> I've opened it up now, available for anyone with interest to subscribe: +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.zarb.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation">https://www.zarb.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'll leave you guys on mageia mailing list in peace on the matter from +</I>><i> now on. ;) +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Regards, +</I>><i> Per Øyvind +</I> +Your contributions to the discussions are most appreciated. There is no +need to leave. There is just a need to give people a little more time to +cool down from the Mandriva debacle. It is still obviously too fresh for +most people who were involved with Mandriva to discuss without getting +emotional. + +If you think you can contribute to helping out or want to help with the +construction of the Mageia project, then you can stay and help out. + +There is nothing wrong with having a difference of opinion and voicing +it. We are a community. Giving people space is often the best thing to +offer them. + +Sad to see you go if you do. + +Cheers + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000719.html">[Mageia-discuss] Foundation mailing list [Was: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..?] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#723">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#723">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#723">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#723">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000724.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000724.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e922aee4e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000724.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7dc2u%24ngr%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000722.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000726.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7dc2u%24ngr%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 18:49:34 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000722.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000726.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#724">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#724">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#724">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#724">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> We will need to keep repeating this as new people on the mailist do not +</I>><i> have all of the messages from this thread. They think that the subject +</I>><i> line "New name for cooker" is still being discussed. Less of a problem +</I>><i> for the Usenet/Gmane readers. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> that's what happened to me.... as I just joined the list last nite. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -Nex6 +</I>><i> +</I>Hi Nex6 + +Thanks for adding this note. It just shows how inefficient it is to use +mailists for these type of things. It will be sorted out once the forums +and website are setup. Everything is in a state of flux for now. + +Cheers + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000722.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000726.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#724">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#724">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#724">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#724">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000725.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000725.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6a7cf8a7b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000725.html @@ -0,0 +1,219 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922165745.GQ31250%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000715.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000729.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922165745.GQ31250%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 18:57:45 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000715.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000729.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#725">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#725">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#725">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#725">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* Catalin Florin RUSSEN (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cfrussen at yahoo.co.uk</A>) wrote: +><i> Why we don't just edit a page on the wiki with all this proposed names, and one +</I>><i> the list is "complete" to propose a pool and vote for the one we like most? +</I> +Because I need time to do it and obviously I have a real work during the +day. + +BTW: Didn't I said I don't to see people replying on this list ? + +Just be patient. + +><i> +</I>><i> Cheers, +</I>><i> Florin +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ________________________________ +</I>><i> From: "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">borg1911-n6 at yahoo.com</A>" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">borg1911-n6 at yahoo.com</A>> +</I>><i> To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> Sent: Wed, 22 September, 2010 17:11:21 +</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hi all, I am new here but "cauldron" is a good name. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -Nex6 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ________________________________ +</I>><i> From: Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> +</I>><i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 5:57:06 PM +</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</I>><i> +</I>><i> * Olivier Thauvin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > * Olivier Thauvin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > > Hi, +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > I am in charge of finding the replacement name for "cooker", eg the +</I>><i> > > development version of Mageia. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Thanks you for your suggestions. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I just sort all suggestions as promise I give you a summary. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Please, limit your post on this list, this thread has cause enought +</I>><i> noise already. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you have a good reason to eliminate a word, or want more explanation, +</I>><i> mail me directly or sent me a message on IRC (Nanar, Freenode), I'll +</I>><i> post a sumarry here if need. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I did learn a lot of words ! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I made some choice for you (sorry): +</I>><i> - read your mail, then take decision according comment +</I>><i> - check quickly on google for major conflicts (such as widelly know +</I>><i> trademark, well know software, ...). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My favorites are word related to room or recipient (to push a change +</I>><i> in...). I did also notice a lot mail in favor of 'cauldron'. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The list, # mean the word is definitely discard (see the comment to find why). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> # Abracadabra - Way too long +</I>><i> Agora - too common, and <A HREF="http://www.agora.gouv.fr/">http://www.agora.gouv.fr/</A> +</I>><i> Alakazam - like the pokemon ? +</I>><i> alchemy - hard to pronouce +</I>><i> Baker +</I>><i> bakery +</I>><i> # blender - it is the name of a well know software +</I>><i> brewery, brew - religious issue +</I>><i> Bubbling +</I>><i> campus +</I>><i> cauldron - taken by sourcemage (is this an issue ?) +</I>><i> Chef +</I>><i> concert +</I>><i> crucible +</I>><i> # Delphi - refer to Borland delphi +</I>><i> Dreamspot +</I>><i> edge +</I>><i> elixir +</I>><i> Enchantment +</I>><i> fire +</I>><i> fireworks +</I>><i> foundry +</I>><i> genesis +</I>><i> harmony +</I>><i> # Hephaestus - complicated +</I>><i> Infusion +</I>><i> kettle +</I>><i> kitchen - isn't too refering to cooker ? +</I>><i> Manna +</I>><i> # mathetria - mean a disciple (female), complicated +</I>><i> # mercurial - name of a RCS, will cause mistakes +</I>><i> mercury +</I>><i> mill +</I>><i> mixer +</I>><i> Mystique - is it correct in english ? +</I>><i> # Olympus - Camera trademark +</I>><i> oven +</I>><i> Pan +</I>><i> # Phoenix - too complicated, will cause error "œ" +</I>><i> # pioneer - trademark +</I>><i> Potion room - one uniq word would better +</I>><i> # Pot - "pott" refer to drugs +</I>><i> Presto +</I>><i> Prometheus - "Prometheus is a fictional character in the Marvel Universe", I +</I>><i> suggest to avoid... :) +</I>><i> quicksilver +</I>><i> rookery +</I>><i> # root - will cause mistake with the user +</I>><i> stove +</I>><i> Synergy - a free software +</I>><i> # Ta Da! - one word would make our life easier +</I>><i> # Tea party - politics issue +</I>><i> testing - like debian, no personnality +</I>><i> transmutation +</I>><i> twig +</I>><i> # unity - name of a distribution (mdv/mageia based !) +</I>><i> Vesuvius +</I>><i> Vulcan +</I>><i> Vulcano +</I>><i> wok +</I>><i> works - like Ms product ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Olivier Thauvin +</I>><i> CNRS - LATMOS +</I>><i> ♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I> +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/9f10f8df/attachment-0001.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000715.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000729.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#725">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#725">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#725">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#725">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000726.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000726.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9cd3c2ae8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000726.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922165954.GR31250%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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The cost is between +$275 and $325 per class. For a trademark like Mageia there are several classes +in which it fits (let's say 3 classes), so the cost is between $825 and $975 +(just for US protection if i get it right) + +That a nice cost for a project that also needs servors, hosting, etc. + + + +Olivier Méjean +Président de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux +<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A> +twitter : obagoom +identi.ca : goom +_______________________________________________ +Mageia-discuss mailing list +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000627.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#727">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#727">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#727">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#727">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000728.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000728.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c9a58b47f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000728.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C268711.95892.qm%40web59509.mail.ac4.yahoo.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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You could just reply to this note on +the thread and we will take it from there. + +Salut! + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000725.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000732.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#729">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#729">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#729">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#729">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000730.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000730.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..796cdfd32 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000730.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2010.09.22.17.11.15.852815%40bcs.org.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000634.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000738.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</H1> + <B>Maurice Batey</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2010.09.22.17.11.15.852815%40bcs.org.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">maurice at bcs.org.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 19:11:15 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000634.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000738.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#730">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#730">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#730">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#730">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:27:26 -0400, Marc Paré wrote: + +><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/pool/with/5012754619/">http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/pool/with/5012754619/</A> +</I> + I love the gejobi "witches hat" logo's! 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What happened to OpenSolaris? + +2010/9/21 André Machado <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>> + +><i> On offer from OpenSuse to offer your build system, I would like to remind +</I>><i> them that an article in the NY Post < +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/novell_inc_reaches_two_part_sale_lZKRHKFYO5T9cKq9Dy7WQO">http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/novell_inc_reaches_two_part_sale_lZKRHKFYO5T9cKq9Dy7WQO</A>> says that, in about 4 weeks, Novell, Inc. will be sold to two companies, +</I>><i> one that will stay with the Linux partition and one that will hold the rest. +</I>><i> It is speculated that the party who will remain with Linux is that VMWare, +</I>><i> inc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This warning is just to stay alert. Remember what happened to OpenSolaris +</I>><i> after Oracle buy Sun. Would not it be nice if we had a promise now that +</I>><i> could not be performed later. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _____________________________________________________________ +</I>><i> Washington DC's Largest FREE Email service. ---> <A HREF="http://www.DCemail.com---">http://www.DCemail.com---</A>> A Washington Online Community Member ---> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.DCpages.com">http://www.DCpages.com</A> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/90e76a1e/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000723.html">[Mageia-discuss] Foundation mailing list [Was: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..?] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000737.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#731">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#731">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#731">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#731">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000732.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000732.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2da186fa5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000732.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New repos + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20repos&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9A3A81.8040306%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000729.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000733.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New repos</H1> + <B>Alonso Marroquin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20repos&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9A3A81.8040306%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New repos">diderisa at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 19:18:57 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000729.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000733.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#732">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#732">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#732">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#732">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> hello everybody! + +I recently see in bdk, request from packagers, it is a great Idea, but +really complicated; +exist a topic in the MIB forum about the crash of Mandriva after update, +the reason: too many repos in/from too many communities containing +diferents versions of the same libraries. +coul be a good idea merge those repos in one (contrib)? +so in that way, we'll be sure that will never crack the distro beacause +the diferents repos/versions of the same package. + + +regards +><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> + +-- +Alonso Marroquin Molina +Dideri, S.A. de C.V. +El Salvador. + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000729.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000733.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#732">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#732">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#732">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#732">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000733.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000733.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eb47f5c40 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000733.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New repos + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20repos&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikkdYoJRzxR84CMgWQ79SfnhsPX_T3afty55j2H%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000732.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000734.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New repos</H1> + <B>Sinner from the Prairy</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20repos&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikkdYoJRzxR84CMgWQ79SfnhsPX_T3afty55j2H%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New repos">sinnerbofh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 19:25:24 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000732.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000734.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#733">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#733">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#733">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#733">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Alonso Marroquin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">diderisa at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i>  hello everybody! +</I> +Hola Alonso, + +><i> I recently see in bdk, request from packagers, it is a great Idea,  but +</I>><i>  really complicated; +</I>><i> exist a topic in the MIB forum about the crash of Mandriva after update, the +</I>><i> reason: too many repos in/from too many communities containing diferents +</I>><i> versions of the same libraries. +</I>><i> coul be a good idea merge those repos in one (contrib)? +</I>><i> so in that way, we'll be sure that will never crack the distro beacause the +</I>><i> diferents repos/versions of the same package. +</I> + +We are discussing it. And looks like Mageia is going to have a single +repo, so this issue will not be an issue. + + +Salut, +Sinner +-- +Sinner from the Prairy - <A HREF="http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/">http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/</A> - +<A HREF="http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/">http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/</A> +Linux User # 89976 - Visit BlogDrake:  <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net">http://blogdrake.net</A> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000732.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000734.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#733">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#733">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#733">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#733">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000734.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000734.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2f8f16a68 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000734.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New repos + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20repos&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7de79%243ur%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000733.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000735.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New repos</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20repos&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7de79%243ur%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New repos">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 19:26:00 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000733.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000735.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#734">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#734">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#734">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#734">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-09-22 13:18, Alonso Marroquin a écrit : +><i> hello everybody! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I recently see in bdk, request from packagers, it is a great Idea, but +</I>><i> really complicated; +</I>><i> exist a topic in the MIB forum about the crash of Mandriva after update, +</I>><i> the reason: too many repos in/from too many communities containing +</I>><i> diferents versions of the same libraries. +</I>><i> coul be a good idea merge those repos in one (contrib)? +</I>><i> so in that way, we'll be sure that will never crack the distro beacause +</I>><i> the diferents repos/versions of the same package. +</I>><i> +</I>Hi Alonso + +This thread is about "New name for cooker" + +You are starting a new thread inside an old thread. Could you create a +new message again and it will create a new thread for you and people +will probably answer you better that way. + +Don't do a "Reply" if you want to create a new thread, you have to +create a new email message. + + +Cheers + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000733.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000735.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#734">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#734">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#734">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#734">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000735.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000735.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..30cd13093 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000735.html @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New repos + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20repos&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9A3D1D.7080103%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000734.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000633.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New repos</H1> + <B>Alonso Marroquin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20repos&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9A3D1D.7080103%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New repos">diderisa at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 19:30:05 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000734.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000633.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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Could you create a +</I>><i> new message again and it will create a new thread for you and people +</I>><i> will probably answer you better that way. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Don't do a "Reply" if you want to create a new thread, you have to +</I>><i> create a new email message. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>my mistake, I beg your pardon, I will if any else comes. +in the mean time, thanks a lot sinner, that is what I want to ear. + +-- +Alonso Marroquin Molina +Dideri, S.A. de C.V. +El Salvador. + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000734.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000633.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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+ +If someone has joined already, has it been a personal decission or is +MiB joining forces with Mageia? + + +Salut, +Sinner +-- +Sinner from the Prairy - <A HREF="http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/">http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/</A> - +<A HREF="http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/">http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/</A> +Linux User # 89976 - Visit BlogDrake:  <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net">http://blogdrake.net</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000740.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000739.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#736">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#736">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#736">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#736">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000737.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000737.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..af32fb09f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000737.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Rumor%3A%20VMWare%20will%20buy%20Novell%20Linux%20division%0A%20%28about%20OpenSuse%20offer%29&In-Reply-To=%3C1285178975.26110.665.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000731.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000740.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer)</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Rumor%3A%20VMWare%20will%20buy%20Novell%20Linux%20division%0A%20%28about%20OpenSuse%20offer%29&In-Reply-To=%3C1285178975.26110.665.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer)">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 20:09:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000740.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#737">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#737">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#737">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#737">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 22 septembre 2010 à 20:19 +0300, Mihai Dobrescu a écrit : +><i> Pardon me, I've been a little bit out. What happened to OpenSolaris? +</I> +This : +<A HREF="http://lwn.net/Articles/400083/">http://lwn.net/Articles/400083/</A> +and this : +<A HREF="http://lwn.net/Articles/405313/">http://lwn.net/Articles/405313/</A> + +basically, oracle killed it, to be revived a community project. + + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000740.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#737">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#737">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#737">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#737">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000738.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000738.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5f4b3837b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000738.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9A48F5.1020305%40arcor.de%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000730.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000622.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</H1> + <B>Florian Hubold</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9A48F5.1020305%40arcor.de%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">doktor5000 at arcor.de + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 20:20:37 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000730.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000622.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestion on boardmembership +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#738">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#738">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#738">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#738">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> Am 22.09.2010 19:11, schrieb Maurice Batey: +><i> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:27:26 -0400, Marc Paré wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/pool/with/5012754619/">http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/pool/with/5012754619/</A> +</I>><i> I love the gejobi "witches hat" logo's! +</I>><i> +</I>Me too! Would be nice to provide them somewhere you +can download them, or maybe it's just that i'm too dumb +or unused to Flickr. + +We could use them as forum avatars to support Mageia ;) +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000730.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000622.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestion on boardmembership +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#738">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#738">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#738">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#738">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000739.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000739.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7c8d88578 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000739.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20MiB%20and%20Mageia&In-Reply-To=%3C201009222023.47654.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000736.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000744.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia</H1> + <B>Olivier Méjean</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20MiB%20and%20Mageia&In-Reply-To=%3C201009222023.47654.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia">omejean at yahoo.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 20:23:47 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000736.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000744.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#739">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#739">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#739">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#739">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Sinner from the Prairy a écrit +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is anyone from MiB joining Mageia? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If someone has joined already, has it been a personal decission or is +</I>><i> MiB joining forces with Mageia? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Salut, +</I>><i> Sinner +</I>><i> +</I> +As everyboby here, if members of MiB want to join they are free to do, if not +they are also free to do. + +I guess they will be welcome if they join + + +-- +Olivier Méjean +Président de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux +<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A> +twitter : obagoom +identi.ca : goom +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000736.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000744.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#739">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#739">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#739">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#739">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000740.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000740.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ba6752dd6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000740.html @@ -0,0 +1,103 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Rumor%3A%20VMWare%20will%20buy%20Novell%20Linux%20division%0A%20%28about%20OpenSuse%20offer%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimF7XvtBn%2BHTXViY%2BQbXbfRf8qkANYQqNzn7DTJ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000737.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000736.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer)</H1> + <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Rumor%3A%20VMWare%20will%20buy%20Novell%20Linux%20division%0A%20%28about%20OpenSuse%20offer%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimF7XvtBn%2BHTXViY%2BQbXbfRf8qkANYQqNzn7DTJ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer)">msdobrescu at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 20:29:51 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000737.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000736.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#740">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#740">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#740">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#740">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Thanks, I had a bad feeling at the moment Sun got acquired by Oracle... +That's life... +I've always liked very much the stability of Solaris. + +On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: + +><i> Le mercredi 22 septembre 2010 à 20:19 +0300, Mihai Dobrescu a écrit : +</I>><i> > Pardon me, I've been a little bit out. What happened to OpenSolaris? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://lwn.net/Articles/400083/">http://lwn.net/Articles/400083/</A> +</I>><i> and this : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://lwn.net/Articles/405313/">http://lwn.net/Articles/405313/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> basically, oracle killed it, to be revived a community project. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Michael Scherer +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/9e76b320/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000737.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000736.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#740">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#740">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#740">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#740">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000741.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000741.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e8d0373a9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000741.html @@ -0,0 +1,131 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C1285180797.26110.759.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000638.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000742.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C1285180797.26110.759.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 20:39:57 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000638.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000742.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#741">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#741">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#741">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#741">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 22 septembre 2010 à 04:32 +0200, Tux99 a écrit : + +><i> While I'm in no position to influence this, I believe that Mageia +</I>><i> and it's community would greatly benefit if the Mageia devs would use a +</I>><i> reserved section of the Mageia forum (a subforum where only devs can +</I>><i> post) for cooker discussions rather than a mailing-list, since it would +</I>><i> bring devs and users closer to each other and facilitate interaction. +</I> +Well, no for several reasons: + +1) a restricted forum is not really the spirit of openess I would see. +And a restricted forum would not be really a way to bring dev and +non-dev closer if this is restricted to dev. ( not to mention that the +simple existence of the idea "dev and users" is harmful, IMHO ). + +2) forums are IMHO not adapted to the work: + +- depending on the forum, some will mark messages as read while you +didn't , fluxbb for example, and this is stressing ( at least, it does +stress me, since each time, I wonder if I forgot to read something +important or not ) + +- you have to read the whole page to follow a thread, while evolution +allow me to mark just a subthread as read when I know it doesn't +interest me ( like thread about kde or nvidia driver on cooker ) + +- you cannot have subthread, which basically make everything a mess + +- you cannot do any kind of filtering ( like some people do with gnus, +to highlight post with keyword ) + +- you cannot cross post between forum ( which can be required when +specialized ml will appear ) + +- you basically cannot automate much task ( like applying a patch for +git with git am ) + +- you cannot read them offline ( in, when you commute, like what I do ) + +- most of the time, you cannot read them on your phone ( see the commute +part ) + +So basically, for my workflow, and I think I am not having a so uncommon +one among the FOSS crowd, a forum is less adapted than a ML. + + +Regarding devs on forums, I have already expressed myself on cooker ml, +seek my name around august this year. Of course, I may appear like a ass +in theses mails,( maybe because I am one ), but I think that basically +changing the name of the project will not impact much my opinion, and +that still reflect my thoughts. + +Of course, some packagers will read forums, and some used it ( like +Nicolas Lecureil, Samuel Verschelde and likely others ) for various +task, but personally, I would prefer rely on people to help me by doing +the triaging, and let me focus on issues where I can be more useful for +everybody. I think this would scale more than asking every developer to +get on the forum. + +So while I do not want to actively ignore users, it must be clear that +not everybody will/can pass a significant time on forum. And well, while +reading is sufficient in theory, if you just read, people do not know +and feel neglected. But answering requires more time. For example, I +have devoted my full afternoon on reading -discuss and I have still many +mails to read and maybe to answer, so I really do not think I could cope +with a user forums. + +When you take a forum, you need to take one that can show "hot topic", +or something like that, ie think of infrequent readers that may want to +only have the more important discussion ( ie, a +packager/designer/coder/whatever that just pass from time to time ). + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000638.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000742.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#741">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#741">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#741">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#741">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000742.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000742.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..128ac7b47 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000742.html @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinkG5tvnPeG4oODq%2BM%3DxCZ9D-Su-KJ9Bu6h-6Ge%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000741.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000743.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinkG5tvnPeG4oODq%2BM%3DxCZ9D-Su-KJ9Bu6h-6Ge%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 20:43:21 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000743.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#742">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#742">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#742">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#742">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/22 Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>>: +><i> Le mercredi 22 septembre 2010 à 04:32 +0200, Tux99 a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> While I'm in no position to influence this, I believe that Mageia +</I>>><i> and it's community would greatly benefit if the Mageia devs would use a +</I>>><i> reserved section of the Mageia forum (a subforum where only devs can +</I>>><i> post) for cooker discussions rather than a mailing-list, since it would +</I>>><i> bring devs and users closer to each other and facilitate interaction. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, no for several reasons: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1) a restricted forum is not really the spirit of openess I would see. +</I>><i> And a restricted forum would not be really a way to bring dev and +</I>><i> non-dev closer if this is restricted to dev. ( not to mention that the +</I>><i> simple existence of the idea "dev and users" is harmful, IMHO ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2) forums are IMHO not adapted to the work: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - depending on the forum, some will mark messages as read while you +</I>><i> didn't , fluxbb for example, and this is stressing ( at least, it does +</I>><i> stress me, since each time, I wonder if I forgot to read something +</I>><i> important or not ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - you have to read the whole page to follow a thread, while evolution +</I>><i> allow me to mark just a subthread as read when I know it doesn't +</I>><i> interest me ( like thread about kde or nvidia driver on cooker ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - you cannot have subthread, which basically make everything a mess +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - you cannot do any kind of filtering ( like some people do with gnus, +</I>><i> to highlight post with keyword ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - you cannot cross post between forum ( which can be required when +</I>><i> specialized ml will appear ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - you basically cannot automate much task ( like applying a patch for +</I>><i> git with git am ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - you cannot read them offline ( in, when you commute, like what I do ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - most of the time, you cannot read them on your phone ( see the commute +</I>><i> part ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So basically, for my workflow, and I think I am not having a so uncommon +</I>><i> one among the  FOSS crowd, a forum is less adapted than a ML. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regarding devs on forums, I have already expressed myself on cooker ml, +</I>><i> seek my name around august this year. Of course, I may appear like a ass +</I>><i> in theses mails,( maybe because I am one ), but I think that basically +</I>><i> changing the name of the project will not impact much my opinion, and +</I>><i> that still reflect my thoughts. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course, some packagers will read forums, and some used it ( like +</I>><i> Nicolas Lecureil, Samuel Verschelde and likely others ) for various +</I>><i> task, but personally, I would prefer rely on people to help me by doing +</I>><i> the triaging, and let me focus on issues where I can be more useful for +</I>><i> everybody. I think this would scale more than asking every developer to +</I>><i> get on the forum. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So while I do not want to actively ignore users, it must be clear that +</I>><i> not everybody will/can pass a significant time on forum. And well, while +</I>><i> reading is sufficient in theory, if you just read, people do not know +</I>><i> and feel neglected. But answering requires more time. For example, I +</I>><i> have devoted my full afternoon on reading -discuss and I have still many +</I>><i> mails to read and maybe to answer, so I really do not think I could cope +</I>><i> with a user forums. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> When you take a forum, you need to take one that can show "hot topic", +</I>><i> or something like that, ie think of infrequent readers that may want to +</I>><i> only have the more important discussion ( ie, a +</I>><i> packager/designer/coder/whatever that just pass from time to time ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Michael Scherer +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +Sounds familiar. +Said with a friendly voice :) + +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000743.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#742">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#742">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#742">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#742">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000743.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000743.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4654f1674 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000743.html @@ -0,0 +1,163 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C568488.91565.qm%40web59510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000742.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000752.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums</H1> + <B>Nex6</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C568488.91565.qm%40web59510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums">borg1911-n6 at yahoo.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 20:50:49 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000742.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000752.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#743">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#743">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#743">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#743">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + + + + +________________________________ +From: Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> +To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 11:39:57 AM +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + +Le mercredi 22 septembre 2010 à 04:32 +0200, Tux99 a écrit : + +><i> While I'm in no position to influence this, I believe that Mageia +</I>><i> and it's community would greatly benefit if the Mageia devs would use a +</I>><i> reserved section of the Mageia forum (a subforum where only devs can +</I>><i> post) for cooker discussions rather than a mailing-list, since it would +</I>><i> bring devs and users closer to each other and facilitate interaction. +</I> +Well, no for several reasons: + +1) a restricted forum is not really the spirit of openess I would see. +And a restricted forum would not be really a way to bring dev and +non-dev closer if this is restricted to dev. ( not to mention that the +simple existence of the idea "dev and users" is harmful, IMHO ). + +2) forums are IMHO not adapted to the work: + +- depending on the forum, some will mark messages as read while you +didn't , fluxbb for example, and this is stressing ( at least, it does +stress me, since each time, I wonder if I forgot to read something +important or not ) + +- you have to read the whole page to follow a thread, while evolution +allow me to mark just a subthread as read when I know it doesn't +interest me ( like thread about kde or nvidia driver on cooker ) + +- you cannot have subthread, which basically make everything a mess + +- you cannot do any kind of filtering ( like some people do with gnus, +to highlight post with keyword ) + +- you cannot cross post between forum ( which can be required when +specialized ml will appear ) + +- you basically cannot automate much task ( like applying a patch for +git with git am ) + +- you cannot read them offline ( in, when you commute, like what I do ) + +- most of the time, you cannot read them on your phone ( see the commute +part ) + +So basically, for my workflow, and I think I am not having a so uncommon +one among the FOSS crowd, a forum is less adapted than a ML. + + +Regarding devs on forums, I have already expressed myself on cooker ml, +seek my name around august this year. Of course, I may appear like a ass +in theses mails,( maybe because I am one ), but I think that basically +changing the name of the project will not impact much my opinion, and +that still reflect my thoughts. + +Of course, some packagers will read forums, and some used it ( like +Nicolas Lecureil, Samuel Verschelde and likely others ) for various +task, but personally, I would prefer rely on people to help me by doing +the triaging, and let me focus on issues where I can be more useful for +everybody. I think this would scale more than asking every developer to +get on the forum. + +So while I do not want to actively ignore users, it must be clear that +not everybody will/can pass a significant time on forum. And well, while +reading is sufficient in theory, if you just read, people do not know +and feel neglected. But answering requires more time. For example, I +have devoted my full afternoon on reading -discuss and I have still many +mails to read and maybe to answer, so I really do not think I could cope +with a user forums. + +When you take a forum, you need to take one that can show "hot topic", +or something like that, ie think of infrequent readers that may want to +only have the more important discussion ( ie, a +packager/designer/coder/whatever that just pass from time to time ). + +-- +Michael Scherer + + + +I am torn, on the ML vs Forums thing. I like forums, and I think for normal +users it would be easier for them. but; for more active devs/user other Mageia +personnel a ML would be better. + + +not, sure how to resolve it, its an age old question. + +-Nex6 + + + +_______________________________________________ +Mageia-discuss mailing list +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/a1ee8cfe/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000742.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000752.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#743">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#743">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#743">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#743">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000744.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000744.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e82b85c59 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000744.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20MiB%20and%20Mageia&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922185128.GL30709%40silvertown.webconquest.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000739.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000747.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia</H1> + <B>Remco Rijnders</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20MiB%20and%20Mageia&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922185128.GL30709%40silvertown.webconquest.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia">remco at webconquest.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 20:51:28 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000739.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000747.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#744">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#744">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#744">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#744">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 08:23:47PM +0200, Olivier Méjean wrote: +><i> Sinner from the Prairy a écrit +</I>><i> > Hi, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Is anyone from MiB joining Mageia? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > If someone has joined already, has it been a personal decission or is +</I>><i> > MiB joining forces with Mageia? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Salut, +</I>><i> > Sinner +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As everyboby here, if members of MiB want to join they are free to do, if not +</I>><i> they are also free to do. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I guess they will be welcome if they join +</I> +MiB? 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But the logo hmmm.. +</I>>><i> Sadiq S +</I>>><i> mailto: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sadiq.9541 at gmail.com</A> +</I>>><i> Blog: www.staticsafe.me +</I>>><i> Twitter - www.twitter.com/staticsafe +</I>>><i> Facebook- www.facebook.com/static.safe +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Yves-Gaël Chény <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">yves at antredugeek.fr</A>> +</I>>><i> wrote: +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Hi, +</I>>>><i> a friend of mine have send us this picture : +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> <A HREF="http://antredugeek.fr/logo_mageia.jpg">http://antredugeek.fr/logo_mageia.jpg</A> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> waiting for your reaction ;) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> ++ +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> hurdman aka yves-gael +</I>>>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>>>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Alles is onmogelijk, als je het maar wil. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +Hi isadora :) + +Please guys/girls, don't top post (when quoting) in mailing lists. + +(Hey, don't look at me like that! I only top-posted for just one week +when I first joined the cooker ML :)). + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000747.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000746.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#745">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#745">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#745">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#745">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000746.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000746.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..319018534 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000746.html @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DWMkpoZMfN8Tsr4h3yq1JquoM_sV1LQ%3DpJm6HD%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000745.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000748.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums</H1> + <B>Sinner from the Prairy</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DWMkpoZMfN8Tsr4h3yq1JquoM_sV1LQ%3DpJm6HD%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums">sinnerbofh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 20:56:06 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000745.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000748.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#746">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#746">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#746">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#746">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Romain d'Alverny <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Hi everyone, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> just to spec. a little things. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It's amazing to see all this help coming in. :-) As it's starting to +</I>><i> bubble a bit, I would like we share the discussion about forums and +</I>><i> hosting them, for the setup. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We see two options at this time: +</I>><i>  1. hosting forums at forum.mageia.org (or st like that) and +</I>><i> delegating management, animation; +</I>><i>  2. delegating forums per locale/country/whatever and having +</I>><i> forum.mageia.org redirect to each. +</I>(...) + +Romain, + +As you know, Spanish-speaking community BlogDrake has joined Mageia. + +We already have our own infrastructure up and running. Thus, could we +get Mageia's Spanish-speaking forum to be redirected to +<A HREF="http://blogdrake.net">http://blogdrake.net</A> ? + +Right now, Mandriva's official Spanish-speaking forum is doing just that. + +Salut, +Sinner +-- +Sinner from the Prairy - <A HREF="http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/">http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/</A> - +<A HREF="http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/">http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/</A> +Linux User # 89976 - Visit BlogDrake:  <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net">http://blogdrake.net</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000745.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000748.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#746">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#746">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#746">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#746">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000747.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000747.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6b0bae92f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000747.html @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20MiB%20and%20Mageia&In-Reply-To=%3C201009222056.11026.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000744.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000745.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia</H1> + <B>Olivier Méjean</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20MiB%20and%20Mageia&In-Reply-To=%3C201009222056.11026.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia">omejean at yahoo.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 20:56:10 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000744.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000745.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#747">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#747">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#747">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#747">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Remco Rijnders a écrit +><i> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 08:23:47PM +0200, Olivier Méjean wrote: +</I>><i> > Sinner from the Prairy a écrit +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > > Hi, +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Is anyone from MiB joining Mageia? +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > If someone has joined already, has it been a personal decission or is +</I>><i> > > MiB joining forces with Mageia? +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Salut, +</I>><i> > > Sinner +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > As everyboby here, if members of MiB want to join they are free to do, if +</I>><i> > not they are also free to do. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I guess they will be welcome if they join +</I>><i> +</I>><i> MiB? Are these like the men in black, or am I missing something? +</I>><i> +</I> +Yes of course, some aliens are behind the fork, i am an alien myself :þ + +<A HREF="http://mib.pianetalinux.org/mib/">http://mib.pianetalinux.org/mib/</A> + +-- +Olivier Méjean +Président de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux +<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A> +twitter : obagoom +identi.ca : goom +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000744.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000745.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#747">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#747">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#747">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#747">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000748.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000748.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..41ddb0ad4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000748.html @@ -0,0 +1,246 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922115626.1E730941%40resin15.mta.everyone.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000746.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000749.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>André Machado</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922115626.1E730941%40resin15.mta.everyone.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">afmachado at dcemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 20:56:26 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000746.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#748">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#748">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#748">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#748">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>QuikSilver is a designer clothes trademark, so, quicksilver must be discarded. + +--- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A> escreveu: + +From: Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> +To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:57:45 +0200 + +* Catalin Florin RUSSEN (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cfrussen at yahoo.co.uk</A>) wrote: +><i> Why we don't just edit a page on the wiki with all this proposed names, and one +</I>><i> the list is "complete" to propose a pool and vote for the one we like most? +</I> +Because I need time to do it and obviously I have a real work during the +day. + +BTW: Didn't I said I don't to see people replying on this list ? + +Just be patient. + +><i> +</I>><i> Cheers, +</I>><i> Florin +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ________________________________ +</I>><i> From: "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">borg1911-n6 at yahoo.com</A>" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">borg1911-n6 at yahoo.com</A>> +</I>><i> To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> Sent: Wed, 22 September, 2010 17:11:21 +</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hi all, I am new here but "cauldron" is a good name. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -Nex6 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ________________________________ +</I>><i> From: Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> +</I>><i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 5:57:06 PM +</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</I>><i> +</I>><i> * Olivier Thauvin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > * Olivier Thauvin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>) wrote: +</I>><i> > > Hi, +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > I am in charge of finding the replacement name for "cooker", eg the +</I>><i> > > development version of Mageia. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Thanks you for your suggestions. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I just sort all suggestions as promise I give you a summary. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Please, limit your post on this list, this thread has cause enought +</I>><i> noise already. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you have a good reason to eliminate a word, or want more explanation, +</I>><i> mail me directly or sent me a message on IRC (Nanar, Freenode), I'll +</I>><i> post a sumarry here if need. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I did learn a lot of words ! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I made some choice for you (sorry): +</I>><i> - read your mail, then take decision according comment +</I>><i> - check quickly on google for major conflicts (such as widelly know +</I>><i> trademark, well know software, ...). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My favorites are word related to room or recipient (to push a change +</I>><i> in...). I did also notice a lot mail in favor of 'cauldron'. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The list, # mean the word is definitely discard (see the comment to find why). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> # Abracadabra - Way too long +</I>><i> Agora - too common, and <A HREF="http://www.agora.gouv.fr/">http://www.agora.gouv.fr/</A> +</I>><i> Alakazam - like the pokemon ? +</I>><i> alchemy - hard to pronouce +</I>><i> Baker +</I>><i> bakery +</I>><i> # blender - it is the name of a well know software +</I>><i> brewery, brew - religious issue +</I>><i> Bubbling +</I>><i> campus +</I>><i> cauldron - taken by sourcemage (is this an issue ?) +</I>><i> Chef +</I>><i> concert +</I>><i> crucible +</I>><i> # Delphi - refer to Borland delphi +</I>><i> Dreamspot +</I>><i> edge +</I>><i> elixir +</I>><i> Enchantment +</I>><i> fire +</I>><i> fireworks +</I>><i> foundry +</I>><i> genesis +</I>><i> harmony +</I>><i> # Hephaestus - complicated +</I>><i> Infusion +</I>><i> kettle +</I>><i> kitchen - isn't too refering to cooker ? +</I>><i> Manna +</I>><i> # mathetria - mean a disciple (female), complicated +</I>><i> # mercurial - name of a RCS, will cause mistakes +</I>><i> mercury +</I>><i> mill +</I>><i> mixer +</I>><i> Mystique - is it correct in english ? +</I>><i> # Olympus - Camera trademark +</I>><i> oven +</I>><i> Pan +</I>><i> # Phoenix - too complicated, will cause error "œ" +</I>><i> # pioneer - trademark +</I>><i> Potion room - one uniq word would better +</I>><i> # Pot - "pott" refer to drugs +</I>><i> Presto +</I>><i> Prometheus - "Prometheus is a fictional character in the Marvel Universe", I +</I>><i> suggest to avoid... :) +</I>><i> quicksilver +</I>><i> rookery +</I>><i> # root - will cause mistake with the user +</I>><i> stove +</I>><i> Synergy - a free software +</I>><i> # Ta Da! - one word would make our life easier +</I>><i> # Tea party - politics issue +</I>><i> testing - like debian, no personnality +</I>><i> transmutation +</I>><i> twig +</I>><i> # unity - name of a distribution (mdv/mageia based !) +</I>><i> Vesuvius +</I>><i> Vulcan +</I>><i> Vulcano +</I>><i> wok +</I>><i> works - like Ms product ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Olivier Thauvin +</I>><i> CNRS - LATMOS +</I>><i> ♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I> +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ + + +_______________________________________________ +Mageia-discuss mailing list +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> + + + + +_____________________________________________________________ +Washington DC's Largest FREE Email service. ---> <A HREF="http://www.DCemail.com">http://www.DCemail.com</A> ---> A Washington Online Community Member ---> +<A HREF="http://www.DCpages.com">http://www.DCpages.com</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000746.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#748">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#748">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#748">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#748">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000749.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000749.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5df21fca1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000749.html @@ -0,0 +1,243 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9A519F.4070000%40tuxette.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I did also notice a lot mail in favor of 'cauldron'. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The list, # mean the word is definitely discard (see the comment to find why). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> # Abracadabra - Way too long +</I>>><i> Agora - too common, and <A HREF="http://www.agora.gouv.fr/">http://www.agora.gouv.fr/</A> +</I>>><i> Alakazam - like the pokemon ? +</I>>><i> alchemy - hard to pronouce +</I>>><i> Baker +</I>>><i> bakery +</I>>><i> # blender - it is the name of a well know software +</I>>><i> brewery, brew - religious issue +</I>>><i> Bubbling +</I>>><i> campus +</I>>><i> cauldron - taken by sourcemage (is this an issue ?) +</I>>><i> Chef +</I>>><i> concert +</I>>><i> crucible +</I>>><i> # Delphi - refer to Borland delphi +</I>>><i> Dreamspot +</I>>><i> edge +</I>>><i> elixir +</I>>><i> Enchantment +</I>>><i> fire +</I>>><i> fireworks +</I>>><i> foundry +</I>>><i> genesis +</I>>><i> harmony +</I>>><i> # Hephaestus - complicated +</I>>><i> Infusion +</I>>><i> kettle +</I>>><i> kitchen - isn't too refering to cooker ? +</I>>><i> Manna +</I>>><i> # mathetria - mean a disciple (female), complicated +</I>>><i> # mercurial - name of a RCS, will cause mistakes +</I>>><i> mercury +</I>>><i> mill +</I>>><i> mixer +</I>>><i> Mystique - is it correct in english ? +</I>>><i> # Olympus - Camera trademark +</I>>><i> oven +</I>>><i> Pan +</I>>><i> # Phoenix - too complicated, will cause error "œ" +</I>>><i> # pioneer - trademark +</I>>><i> Potion room - one uniq word would better +</I>>><i> # Pot - "pott" refer to drugs +</I>>><i> Presto +</I>>><i> Prometheus - "Prometheus is a fictional character in the Marvel Universe", I +</I>>><i> suggest to avoid... :) +</I>>><i> quicksilver +</I>>><i> rookery +</I>>><i> # root - will cause mistake with the user +</I>>><i> stove +</I>>><i> Synergy - a free software +</I>>><i> # Ta Da! - one word would make our life easier +</I>>><i> # Tea party - politics issue +</I>>><i> testing - like debian, no personnality +</I>>><i> transmutation +</I>>><i> twig +</I>>><i> # unity - name of a distribution (mdv/mageia based !) +</I>>><i> Vesuvius +</I>>><i> Vulcan +</I>>><i> Vulcano +</I>>><i> wok +</I>>><i> works - like Ms product ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> -- +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Olivier Thauvin +</I>>><i> CNRS - LATMOS +</I>>><i> ♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Please don't broke thread and don't use top-posting + +Marianne + +-- +Marianne (Jehane) Lombard +Mandriva User +Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a lot of chocolate) + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000748.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000760.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#749">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#749">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#749">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#749">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000750.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000750.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7d64d61f2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000750.html @@ -0,0 +1,136 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922121419.1E730E10%40resin15.mta.everyone.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000760.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000754.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums</H1> + <B>André Machado</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922121419.1E730E10%40resin15.mta.everyone.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums">afmachado at dcemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 21:14:19 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000760.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000754.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#750">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#750">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#750">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#750">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>As said yesterday on IRC, there was a discussion if all foruns would be centered in only one site (ex: es.mageiaforums.org or fr.mageiaforums.org) or whether each international community had its own and independent. Was decided by this second one. + +An user what is mantainer of mandrivausers.com offered himself to turn your forum in the official english-speaking mageia forum and it would be transferred to mageiausers.org. But some issues arose: + +1. currently, mandrivausers.org uses IPB, what is not free as in the freedom, even gratis. However, that's IPB installation is Legal. The issue was: is ethical to use a non-free forum software to be a free software main forum project? + +2. We don't know if mageiausers.org will be the official Mageia forums or only the Mageia english-speakers official forum. + +3. In the event of this site become the official forum, does the IPB license allow changing of Domain name? + +Note that I refer to the official forum as that what distro directors and main delevopers will be "aways" present and we will can give our views about many questions and decide Mageia future. + +--- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A> escreveu: + +From: Sinner from the Prairy <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A>> +To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:56:06 -0400 + +On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Romain d'Alverny <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Hi everyone, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> just to spec. a little things. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It's amazing to see all this help coming in. :-) As it's starting to +</I>><i> bubble a bit, I would like we share the discussion about forums and +</I>><i> hosting them, for the setup. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We see two options at this time: +</I>><i>  1. hosting forums at forum.mageia.org (or st like that) and +</I>><i> delegating management, animation; +</I>><i>  2. delegating forums per locale/country/whatever and having +</I>><i> forum.mageia.org redirect to each. +</I>(...) + +Romain, + +As you know, Spanish-speaking community BlogDrake has joined Mageia. + +We already have our own infrastructure up and running. Thus, could we +get Mageia's Spanish-speaking forum to be redirected to +<A HREF="http://blogdrake.net">http://blogdrake.net</A> ? + +Right now, Mandriva's official Spanish-speaking forum is doing just that. + +Salut, +Sinner +-- +Sinner from the Prairy - <A HREF="http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/">http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/</A> - +<A HREF="http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/">http://www.ibiblio.org/sinner/</A> +Linux User # 89976 - Visit BlogDrake:  <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net">http://blogdrake.net</A> +_______________________________________________ +Mageia-discuss mailing list +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> + + + + +_____________________________________________________________ +Washington DC's Largest FREE Email service. ---> <A HREF="http://www.DCemail.com">http://www.DCemail.com</A> ---> A Washington Online Community Member ---> +<A HREF="http://www.DCpages.com">http://www.DCpages.com</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000760.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000754.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#750">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#750">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#750">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#750">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000751.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000751.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4499ec7c9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000751.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1009222111250.32130-100000%40outpost-priv%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I like forums, and I think for +</I>><i> normal users it would be easier for them. but; for more active devs/user +</I>><i> other Mageia personnel a ML would be better. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> not, sure how to resolve it, its an age old question. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -Nex6 +</I>><i> +</I> +Got it. So public forums seem best for the interest of the general +public, ML (mailist) most likely best for devs mostly due to their +speed? I would imagine though, that devs on ML would spend some amount +(hopefully not that much) repeating requests for lack of easy access to +prior emails. Is this what happens with devs? Do you find that you will +spend a certain amount of time re-hashing emails as you would have +missed some prior talk on a subject? + +Most concern then would be about the dangers of the detachment of both +groups to one other -- hoping that somewhere along the line, devs and +the public could have a place to mix so as not to lose touch with each +other. + +A community is a little different from a business. The community members +are all partners. There is no master-servant relationship, more of a +direction-relationship. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000743.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000757.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#752">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#752">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#752">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#752">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000753.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000753.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ccb4c9946 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000753.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7dl2u%245f0%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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We are +trying to organize and this is not helping! + +You will probably find people will answer you better this way. + +Merci de ton aide. + +Marc + + +Le 2010-09-22 15:14, André Machado a écrit : +><i> As said yesterday on IRC, there was a discussion if all foruns would be centered in only one site (ex: es.mageiaforums.org or fr.mageiaforums.org) or whether each international community had its own and independent. Was decided by this second one. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> An user what is mantainer of mandrivausers.com offered himself to turn your forum in the official english-speaking mageia forum and it would be transferred to mageiausers.org. But some issues arose: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1. currently, mandrivausers.org uses IPB, what is not free as in the freedom, even gratis. However, that's IPB installation is Legal. The issue was: is ethical to use a non-free forum software to be a free software main forum project? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2. We don't know if mageiausers.org will be the official Mageia forums or only the Mageia english-speakers official forum. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 3. In the event of this site become the official forum, does the IPB license allow changing of Domain name? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Note that I refer to the official forum as that what distro directors and main delevopers will be "aways" present and we will can give our views about many questions and decide Mageia future. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> --- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A> escreveu: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> From: Sinner from the Prairy<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A>> +</I>><i> To: Mageia general discussions<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</I>><i> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:56:06 -0400 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Romain d'Alverny<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> Hi everyone, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> just to spec. a little things. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> It's amazing to see all this help coming in. :-) As it's starting to +</I>>><i> bubble a bit, I would like we share the discussion about forums and +</I>>><i> hosting them, for the setup. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> We see two options at this time: +</I>>><i> 1. hosting forums at forum.mageia.org (or st like that) and +</I>>><i> delegating management, animation; +</I>>><i> 2. delegating forums per locale/country/whatever and having +</I>>><i> forum.mageia.org redirect to each. +</I>><i> (...) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Romain, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As you know, Spanish-speaking community BlogDrake has joined Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We already have our own infrastructure up and running. Thus, could we +</I>><i> get Mageia's Spanish-speaking forum to be redirected to +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net">http://blogdrake.net</A> ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Right now, Mandriva's official Spanish-speaking forum is doing just that. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Salut, +</I>><i> Sinner +</I> + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#754">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#754">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#754">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#754">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000755.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000755.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6b06ef8b2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000755.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C1285184053.26110.833.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000753.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000765.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C1285184053.26110.833.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 21:34:13 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000753.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#755">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#755">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#755">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#755">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 22 septembre 2010 à 21:19 +0200, Tux99 a écrit : + +><i> Maybe our future official forum admin will find a way to integrate the +</I>><i> ML with the forum using a bi-directional gateway. +</I>><i> I'd guess such a solution would suit everybody since it gives everyone +</I>><i> individually the choice whether to use ML or forum or a bit of both. +</I> +I have been thinking of web-scraping forums, or tricking weboob +developers ( <A HREF="http://weboob.org/">http://weboob.org/</A> ) into doing this. But I fear the +different concept doesn't match together ( ie, lack of thread in most +forum I have encountered :/ ) + +But I would at least test such a software if it existed ( but I will not +guarantee it would suit me ). + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000753.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#755">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#755">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#755">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#755">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000756.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000756.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..70b9966c1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000756.html @@ -0,0 +1,133 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C1285185370.26110.869.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000771.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000758.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C1285185370.26110.869.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 21:56:10 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000758.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Cooker"'s name, the poll +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#756">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#756">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#756">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#756">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 21 septembre 2010 à 18:09 +0200, Tux99 a écrit : +><i> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, vfmBOFH wrote: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Similar to the (failed) mandriva assembly, huh? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I think it can be a good scheme. And comes with some "extras" like localized +</I>><i> > communities can "elect" their representative on the future associaton, and +</I>><i> > turns the "central hub" in a open discuss for them. If this scheme sucess, +</I>><i> > transparency and openess of the representative's discursons are guaranteed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Since vfmBOFH mentions the failed mandriva assembly, I'd like to suggest +</I>><i> to please keep the organisational structure as flat as possible. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On the internet where everyone has equal possibilities to be informed +</I>><i> and partecipate we don't need multi-level hierarchical structures with +</I>><i> so called local community representatives that have special rights or +</I>><i> influence. +</I> +Did you read the book "The starfish and the spider" by chance :) ? + +( if you didn't, you should, or try to see Max Spevack presentation +about Fedora organisation ) + +><i> As we just saw during the first days of Mageia, the opinion of some +</I>><i> local community representatives don't necessarily match at all with the +</I>><i> opinions of the members of their community. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So personally I don't see any point in local community representatives +</I>><i> as decision makers. If anything they should make sure that their +</I>><i> communities are informaed by arranging translations of relevant +</I>><i> information and manage their local forums, events etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Any voting on global Mageia issues should be open to everyone, there +</I>><i> should be no delegations or representations as that's not necessary on +</I>><i> the internet. +</I> +As anti democratic I will sound, I do not like much the idea of voting. + +Because this often end promoting segregation rather compromise, and +giving opinion rather than acting to make the change. In France, we have +basically 2 side each time, given our voting system, and this create +manichean situations, which then degenerate in friction. And minorities +views are mostly not considered. + +I also have bad memories of Debian discussion when there is stuff to +vote. + +More ever, i think we should better aim to a system where a minimal +number of choices will be imposed on others. Ie if we decide to use +openbox as default wm, we should have a easy way to produce another iso, +etc. + +Of course, default choices will have to be made, but this must be either +"easy" to change, or at least based on technical ground and numbers +rather than opinion and political aspects. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000758.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Cooker"'s name, the poll +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#756">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#756">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#756">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#756">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000757.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000757.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8fc5e3e96 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000757.html @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C201009222156.33358.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000752.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000764.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C201009222156.33358.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 21:56:33 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000752.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#757">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#757">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#757">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#757">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op woensdag 22 september 2010 21:21:25 schreef Marc Paré: +><i> > I am torn, on the ML vs Forums thing. I like forums, and I think for +</I>><i> > normal users it would be easier for them. but; for more active devs/user +</I>><i> > other Mageia personnel a ML would be better. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > not, sure how to resolve it, its an age old question. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > -Nex6 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Got it. So public forums seem best for the interest of the general +</I>><i> public, ML (mailist) most likely best for devs mostly due to their +</I>><i> speed? I would imagine though, that devs on ML would spend some amount +</I>><i> (hopefully not that much) repeating requests for lack of easy access to +</I>><i> prior emails. Is this what happens with devs? Do you find that you will +</I>><i> spend a certain amount of time re-hashing emails as you would have +</I>><i> missed some prior talk on a subject? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Most concern then would be about the dangers of the detachment of both +</I>><i> groups to one other -- hoping that somewhere along the line, devs and +</I>><i> the public could have a place to mix so as not to lose touch with each +</I>><i> other. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A community is a little different from a business. The community members +</I>><i> are all partners. There is no master-servant relationship, more of a +</I>><i> direction-relationship. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I> +imo, users like forums and devs like mailing lists and possibly IRC even more + +but, devs are also in contact with forum mods and some devs browse through the +forums once in a while. + +furthermore forum mods probably like IRC as well (as also some users do) + +but this kind of "seperation" is not necessarily a bad thing. users generally +discuss more lengthy things while working out what is best in their option, +conclusions about that are often indicated by forum mods/community leaders to +devs on IRC/mailing lists. + +devs don't want to be too distracted by anything or they get no work done. + +as a topping; users and devs also communicate through bug reports, i cannot +stress this enough, the easiest way to say to a dev, please do feature X is to +open a feature request on the bugzilla. + +I see no need for all of this to change, i believe devs have a sufficient +advisory input from community; but since this isn't a business, opensource is +very simple, the dev decides what he does and what he doesn't do. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000752.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#757">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#757">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#757">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#757">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000758.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000758.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a5b4189c7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000758.html @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] "Cooker"'s name, the poll + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%22Cooker%22%27s%20name%2C%20the%20poll&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922200118.GA2263%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000756.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000761.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] "Cooker"'s name, the poll</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%22Cooker%22%27s%20name%2C%20the%20poll&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922200118.GA2263%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] "Cooker"'s name, the poll">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 22:01:19 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000756.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#758">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#758">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#758">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#758">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>As promise, you can choose the name for next cooker using the link at +end of this mail. + +This method is not safe as anyone can participate. I know. However if a +name clearly win it will be choosen. + +End of the poll: Friday, 24 September 2010 at 14H00 GMT. + +<A HREF="http://www.doodle.com/bgpeeappihr7idmc">http://www.doodle.com/bgpeeappihr7idmc</A> + +Make the good choice ! + +Regards + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/6bb2fd27/attachment-0001.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000756.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#758">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#758">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#758">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#758">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000759.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000759.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6fcaa6d7c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000759.html @@ -0,0 +1,257 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FThank_you_-_Merci_-_Danke_-_Gracias_-_%3F%3D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fb%3FR3JhemllIC0gT2JyaWdhZG8gLSDRgdC/0LDRgdC40LHQvg%3D%3D%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3C1285185859.26110.878.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000712.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000766.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FThank_you_-_Merci_-_Danke_-_Gracias_-_%3F%3D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fb%3FR3JhemllIC0gT2JyaWdhZG8gLSDRgdC/0LDRgdC40LHQvg%3D%3D%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3C1285185859.26110.878.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 22:04:19 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000712.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#759">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#759">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#759">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#759">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 22 septembre 2010 à 12:11 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : +><i> Le 2010-09-22 10:41, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > Le mardi 21 septembre 2010 à 16:53 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> >> Would it make sense to also have a section for "mageia" domain owners to +</I>><i> >> track domain owners who are willing to cooperate? You will eventually +</I>><i> >> have to do this anyway. I would also consider this also a type of offer +</I>><i> >> of cooperation and help. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Personally, I think we should not collect all domain names to give them +</I>><i> > to the association : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The offer was to pass on the domain if the Mageia project wanted to have +</I>><i> it. It adds flexibility +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > 1) each domain name will need admin time. Either to manage ( ie, set up +</I>><i> > vhost, setup the zone, add a entry to the zone etc ), or to renew. While +</I>><i> > renewing 1 domain name every year is easy, renewing 10 or 20 on 10 to 20 +</I>><i> > different resellers, for different prices and so on will be quite +</I>><i> > annoying. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> When passing off a domain, the reseller is transferred. You then +</I>><i> consolidate all under on reseller. I do this all the time. +</I> +Well, depending on the domain, I am not sure that all of them can be +transferred everywhere. + +For example, .ie is restricted as Colin Guthrie explained to me for the +10 years of Mandriva. And it seems that you cannot buy .ie at gandi.net, +which is the reseller we have used. + +So I do not know if they can manage every type of TLD. + +><i> > +</I>><i> > 2) this will also generate work for people in charge of comptability, +</I>><i> > and we know that people doing the work of a CFO are a scarce ressources +</I>><i> > ( CFO may not be the proper word, but I didn't found better ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You set a pointer to the main site and there is no need to use the other +</I>><i> domain names if you do not wish. +</I> +I mean administrative work, like taking care of the bill, reporting them +on the financial report, etc. + +I never managed a association as a treasurer, so I do not know how much +paperwork is really required, or if this is really annoying, but all the +one that I know are always already overworked, so I am sure that less +work is better. + + +><i> > +</I>><i> > If we use for http : +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > 4) too much domain will be a pain from a ssl point of view. If we start +</I>><i> > to need ssl for a site, and there is 10 Vhost for it, we will just have +</I>><i> > 10 time the work to renew certificates. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not applicable if you redirect the domains. You would then only have to +</I>><i> establish certificates for those domains that you intend to use. +</I> +I beg to differ. + +For a http redirect, this will require first to connect using https then +send the redirect at http level, so a valid certificate is needed before +the redirect. + +If you speak of a "dns redirect", you can either use a A record, in +which case the issue would still be valid since browser will ask for the +certificate of the first domain name, not the redirected one. Or you can +use a CNAME record, in which case, the issue is the same. + +Maybe I forgot something or overlooked it however, but I am quite +confident of this. And since this will be different TLDs, you cannot use +a wildcard certificate. + +Of course, a solution would be to basically use the same certificate +everywhere and let warnings appear, this is not a big issue. + + +><i> > +</I>><i> > 5) too much domain will also requires more work for simple http, since +</I>><i> > we will have lots of them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not applicable if you set a pointer. This will also depend on the amount +</I>><i> of website developers help who have signed up. +</I> +Well, it mostly depend on the number of vhost needed. For exemple, if we +want to have blog.example.fr redirect to blog.example.org, we need to +create a vhost with the redirection. Te issue can be alleviated by using +some mod_rewrite tricks. + +But yes, for the case you gave of simple http redirect, this is not +tricky to handle. + +But it depend on what will be needed. Worst case would be to have +conditional vhost for each domain ( like only have a blog on some +subdomain and not others ). + +><i> > +</I>><i> > 6) too much different url will just mean more confusion. I may also fear +</I>><i> > this could be seen by major search engine as unethic SEO, and thus be +</I>><i> > punished ( since link farm is a commonly used technic to try to hijack +</I>><i> > some keywords ). But Google, Yahoo and Bing systems are closed source, +</I>><i> > so I do not know. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is not unethic as all business on the internet do this as common +</I>><i> practice. Try to type in URL's for any major corporation, or Yahoo!, +</I>><i> Google, Bing etc. +</I> +Well, yahoo.fr and yahoo.com do not give the same server, and there is +some high level redirection. So does Dell ( 2 differents sites ), Apple +( not the same server, not the same page, redirection to .com with a +url ), Microsoft ( does like Apple ), Renault ( not the same ip, some +wierd redirection ), Peugeot. + +Ie, among the test i did, only Google and Bind do have the same page +across various urls. + +So my own understanding is that they appear to be different entities to +most search engines. + +><i> > +</I>><i> > If we use for mail : +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > 7) too much domain will simply mean more spam. If we offer multiple +</I>><i> > email ( like "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">example at mageia.org</A>, and .de, and .fr and .cn, and so on ), +</I>><i> > email will simply appear in more list, and therefore be more spammed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Domains do not have to be activated for mail. If a domain is not +</I>><i> activated for mail service then the mail bounces back to the sender. +</I>><i> This is done all of the time. +</I> +Well, that why I have said "if we use it for mail". + +And I see at least 1 person using the domain name he bought and offered +us to use ( see Tomáš Kindl on +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ressources">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ressources</A> ). + +><i> > +</I>><i> > 9) and of course, too much domain name, like for websites will mean more +</I>><i> > confusion. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It means less confusion. mageia.org will lead to main site; mageia.ca +</I>><i> does lead to main site; magiea.nl would lead to main site; mageia.net +</I>><i> would lead to main site; mageia.info would lead to main site ... How +</I>><i> would this be confusing? +</I> +I was not clear, I was speaking of mail address ( if we use them ). +And so this would bring confusion because people often rely on the mail +to see if someone is a official developer or not. Hence, if we use the +domain for mail, people will use them to post on ml, I assume people +will use them. + +Of course, as you said, we can also decide to not use it. + +><i> By doing business the way that you advocate, you actually lower the +</I>><i> fidelity that one would assume of a serious group. +</I> +We are not creating a business, but a free software project, IIRC. So +some concepts may not be applicable directly. And I think that part of +the fidelity would be earned with local user group with their own +identity and presence, and likely their own choices, independances and +domain names. + +><i> > +</I>><i> > So +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > 10) by registering every possible variation, we are acting selfishly +</I>><i> > toward others netizens. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You have already covered these points up above with #9. #10 is not a new +</I>><i> point. +</I> +No, 10 is for the paragraph about "lack of good domain name on the +internet" before, based on the problem about finding a name, and about +being nice with other people who may use the name in unrelated way. + +><i> > +</I>><i> > The only answer I got was about security. But seriously, security of +</I>><i> > what ? Protecting from people doing phishing ? Bank already fail at +</I>><i> > this, and you think we can ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Who mentioned security? This is all about flexibility. +</I> +First time I mentioned the issue 2 days ago. But I think this was on +irc, since I cannot find anything in the mailling list archives :/ + +( if someone can confirm that I didn't dream... ) + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000712.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#759">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#759">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#759">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#759">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000760.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000760.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..475d043b2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000760.html @@ -0,0 +1,197 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinWN4R-F5eXVQ70ER%3DwRPzw7Mif%2BGDJsPMYEhwq%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000749.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000750.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>R James</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinWN4R-F5eXVQ70ER%3DwRPzw7Mif%2BGDJsPMYEhwq%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">upsnag2 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 22:13:07 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#760">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#760">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#760">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#760">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>>>>><i> * Olivier Thauvin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>) wrote: +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> Hi, +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> I am in charge of finding the replacement name for "cooker", eg the +</I>>>>>><i> development version of Mageia. +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Thanks you for your suggestions. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I just sort all suggestions as promise I give you a summary. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Please, limit your post on this list, this thread has cause enought +</I>>>><i> noise already. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> If you have a good reason to eliminate a word, or want more explanation, +</I>>>><i> mail me directly or sent me a message on IRC (Nanar, Freenode), I'll +</I>>>><i> post a sumarry here if need. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I did learn a lot of words ! +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I made some choice for you (sorry): +</I>>>><i> - read your mail, then take  decision according comment +</I>>>><i> - check quickly on google for major conflicts (such as widelly know +</I>>>><i>   trademark, well know software, ...). +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> My favorites are word related to room or recipient (to push a change +</I>>>><i> in...). I did also notice a lot mail in favor of 'cauldron'. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> The list, # mean the word is definitely discard (see the comment to find why). +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> # Abracadabra - Way too long +</I>>>><i> Agora - too common, and <A HREF="http://www.agora.gouv.fr/">http://www.agora.gouv.fr/</A> +</I>>>><i> Alakazam - like the pokemon ? +</I>>>><i> alchemy - hard to pronouce +</I>>>><i> Baker +</I>>>><i> bakery +</I>>>><i> # blender - it is the name of a well know software +</I>>>><i> brewery, brew - religious issue +</I>>>><i> Bubbling +</I>>>><i> campus +</I>>>><i> cauldron - taken by sourcemage (is this an issue ?) +</I>>>><i> Chef +</I>>>><i> concert +</I>>>><i> crucible +</I>>>><i> # Delphi - refer to Borland delphi +</I>>>><i> Dreamspot +</I>>>><i> edge +</I>>>><i> elixir +</I>>>><i> Enchantment +</I>>>><i> fire +</I>>>><i> fireworks +</I>>>><i> foundry +</I>>>><i> genesis +</I>>>><i> harmony +</I>>>><i> # Hephaestus -  complicated +</I>>>><i> Infusion +</I>>>><i> kettle +</I>>>><i> kitchen - isn't too refering to cooker ? +</I>>>><i> Manna +</I>>>><i> # mathetria - mean a disciple (female), complicated +</I>>>><i> # mercurial - name of a RCS, will cause mistakes +</I>>>><i> mercury +</I>>>><i> mill +</I>>>><i> mixer +</I>>>><i> Mystique - is it correct in english ? +</I>>>><i> # Olympus - Camera trademark +</I>>>><i> oven +</I>>>><i> Pan +</I>>>><i> # Phoenix - too complicated, will cause error "œ" +</I>>>><i> # pioneer - trademark +</I>>>><i> Potion room - one uniq word would better +</I>>>><i> # Pot - "pott" refer to drugs +</I>>>><i> Presto +</I>>>><i> Prometheus - "Prometheus is a fictional character in the Marvel Universe", I +</I>>>><i> suggest to avoid... :) +</I>>>><i> quicksilver +</I>>>><i> rookery +</I>>>><i> # root - will cause mistake with the user +</I>>>><i> stove +</I>>>><i> Synergy - a free software +</I>>>><i> # Ta Da! - one word would make our life easier +</I>>>><i> # Tea party - politics issue +</I>>>><i> testing - like debian, no personnality +</I>>>><i> transmutation +</I>>>><i> twig +</I>>>><i> # unity - name of a distribution (mdv/mageia based !) +</I>>>><i> Vesuvius +</I>>>><i> Vulcan +</I>>>><i> Vulcano +</I>>>><i> wok +</I>>>><i> works - like Ms product  ? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> -- +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Olivier Thauvin +</I>>>><i> CNRS  -  LATMOS +</I>>>><i> ♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>>>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Please don't broke thread and don't use top-posting +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marianne +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Marianne (Jehane) Lombard +</I>><i> Mandriva User +</I>><i> Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a lot of chocolate) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +I like "Sourcery". + +<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sourcery">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sourcery</A> + +If that's too common or already taken, perhaps a mashup like "Sourcereia"? 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Would be nice to provide them somewhere you +can download them, or maybe it's just that i'm too dumb +or unused to Flickr. + +We could use them as forum avatars to support Mageia ;) +_______________________________________________ +Mageia-discuss mailing list +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000758.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Cooker"'s name, the poll +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000762.html">[Mageia-discuss] A suggestion regarding community organization. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#761">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#761">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#761">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#761">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000762.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000762.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cf8bbe3e3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000762.html @@ -0,0 +1,130 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] A suggestion regarding community organization. + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20A%20suggestion%20regarding%20community%20organization.&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinT6zPEDX%2BWKK%2B9W_eWxcxOBZHOnnad%2BOWD%2BpLE%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000761.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000769.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] A suggestion regarding community organization.</H1> + <B>Gamaliel Lamboy Rodríguez</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20A%20suggestion%20regarding%20community%20organization.&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinT6zPEDX%2BWKK%2B9W_eWxcxOBZHOnnad%2BOWD%2BpLE%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] A suggestion regarding community organization.">gamalamboy at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 22:22:28 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000769.html">[Mageia-discuss] Added Topics on the signup Wiki -- Thanks +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#762">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#762">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#762">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#762">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, I'm Gamaliel Lamboy. I am a student of Economics at Puerto Rico +University, with a minor concentration in Cooperativism. I was truly +impressed by your efforts to fork Mandriva Linux into a full community-based +operating system, and I fully advocate it. I look forward to contributing, +although probably not in coding (I am no programmer), to the community in +various ways, including promoting it among my academic and personal +environment (I have been getting people on Linux for a good amount of time +now, and would certainly move them to Mageia ASAP). + +Regarding the future plans, I was thinking that you could consider becoming +a cooperative, since it upholds most of the values behind free software by +itself, is a community enterprise, and -being an established movement- has +an enormous amount of financial resources available to its development. It +is offered simply a means to fund the community, not a community in itself. +I will brief a bit why I think this is a good choice, but in the end it's +the community's choice what should reign, and I will support it whichever +way I can (I'm unemployed right now) regardless of their choice. + +1 - collective capital. That means the project will never be individually +owned or become a free rider inside a corporation's umbrella. More +importantly, it ensures democracy in the decisions due to joint ownership +(there is a whole standardized structure to ensure democracy and full +excercise of joint ownership inside cooperatives). +2 - transparency. Cooperatives and Linux believe in openness, which in Linux +means anybody can use, modify and redistribute particular works. A similar +thing happens in cooperatives; every associate holds the institution +accountable for the safe management of their funding, which means that all +accountings and dealings must be openly communicated to all members. +3 - opportunities - Cooperatives have created a complete ecosystem for +funding, educating, and assisting emerging institutions: there are +international alliances such as the International Cooperative +Alliance<<A HREF="http://www.ica.coop">http://www.ica.coop</A>>, +thousands of national-scale organizations, cooperative banks, and virtually +almost any kind of service possible. By choosing to create a cooperative, we +would not necessarily need to rely on our own capital, but we could finance +our initial investments through cooperatives specially dedicated for the +development of these community enterprises. (e.g. +<A HREF="http://www.cdscotland.co.uk/">http://www.cdscotland.co.uk/</A>). +4 - it is a nonprofit organization by its own structure. + +My idea is that we create a software cooperative that is dedicated to +funding Mageia Linux through various digital and cooperative means. The +cooperative would contribute to Mageia, and Mageia would contribute back to +the community. That's the general plan, but I can make more specific +statements and answers to queries if needed/wanted. + +Anyway, the most important thing is, it's a means to help the entire Linux +community grow. The definition of cooperative says much more than my +blabbering: "A co-operative is an autonomous association of persons united +voluntarily to meet their common economic, social, and cultural needs and +aspirations through a jointly-owned and democratically-controlled +enterprise." It's close enough to what you guys are doing. + +There are a gazillion resources to help you guys organize into this model: +we only need to adapt to it. + +Just my 2 cents. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/ceacbd48/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000769.html">[Mageia-discuss] Added Topics on the signup Wiki -- Thanks +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#762">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#762">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#762">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#762">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000763.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000763.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bee983da3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000763.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C00c401cb5a95%24245e2e10%246d1a8a30%24%40mcrides.co.nz%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000754.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000768.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums</H1> + <B>Paul Willard</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C00c401cb5a95%24245e2e10%246d1a8a30%24%40mcrides.co.nz%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums">paul at mcrides.co.nz + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 22:31:25 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000754.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000768.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#763">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#763">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#763">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#763">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>-----Original Message----- +From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A> [mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>] On Behalf Of André Machado +Sent: Thursday, 23 September 2010 7:14 a.m. +To: Mageia general discussions +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + +As said yesterday on IRC, there was a discussion if all foruns would be centered in only one site (ex: es.mageiaforums.org or fr.mageiaforums.org) or whether each international community had its own and independent. Was decided by this second one. + +An user what is mantainer of mandrivausers.com offered himself to turn your forum in the official english-speaking mageia forum and it would be transferred to mageiausers.org. But some issues arose: + +1. currently, mandrivausers.org uses IPB, what is not free as in the freedom, even gratis. However, that's IPB installation is Legal. The issue was: is ethical to use a non-free forum software to be a free software main forum project? + +2. We don't know if mageiausers.org will be the official Mageia forums or only the Mageia english-speakers official forum. + +3. In the event of this site become the official forum, does the IPB license allow changing of Domain name? + +Note that I refer to the official forum as that what distro directors and main delevopers will be "aways" present and we will can give our views about many questions and decide Mageia future. + +--- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A> escreveu: + +Just to answer those questions: +1. I understand the concept and discussion, but do not agree. +2. Nobody can give me a clear decision, and every morning I wake up the story has changed :) +3. Yes + +Paul Willard. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000754.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000768.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#763">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#763">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#763">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#763">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000764.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000764.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..19f28ee3d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000764.html @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7dp3e%24oit%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000757.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000767.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7dp3e%24oit%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 22:31:42 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000757.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#764">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#764">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#764">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#764">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> imo, users like forums and devs like mailing lists and possibly IRC even more +</I>><i> +</I>><i> but, devs are also in contact with forum mods and some devs browse through the +</I>><i> forums once in a while. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> furthermore forum mods probably like IRC as well (as also some users do) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> but this kind of "seperation" is not necessarily a bad thing. users generally +</I>><i> discuss more lengthy things while working out what is best in their option, +</I>><i> conclusions about that are often indicated by forum mods/community leaders to +</I>><i> devs on IRC/mailing lists. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> devs don't want to be too distracted by anything or they get no work done. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> as a topping; users and devs also communicate through bug reports, i cannot +</I>><i> stress this enough, the easiest way to say to a dev, please do feature X is to +</I>><i> open a feature request on the bugzilla. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I see no need for all of this to change, i believe devs have a sufficient +</I>><i> advisory input from community; but since this isn't a business, opensource is +</I>><i> very simple, the dev decides what he does and what he doesn't do. +</I> +I think that I am not different than most other users. The life of devs +is a mystery to us. We often wonder how you spend your lives etc. Maybe +one of you could throw together a real-life mystery novel on the "Live +of a dev". LOL + +I can tell you that for most users, using the IRC channels is just too +much of a challenge and quite frankly of little use. It is too +"real-time in your face" and hard to get back to check on missed +messages/answers (impossible to do). I can see where devs would not want +to be constantly interrupted by interlopers. + +I too also see no real reason for change unless the dev team or +community members find the communication between the two groups is +lacking. If the tools are set for easy cross communication at the outset +then there would be no reason to complain. Whether or not a dev or +community member make use of these tools would be up to them. + +Marc + + + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000757.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#764">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#764">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#764">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#764">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000765.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000765.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8892adf26 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000765.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7dp51%24oit%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000755.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000772.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7dp51%24oit%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 22:32:33 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000755.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#765">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#765">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#765">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#765">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-09-22 15:34, Michael Scherer a écrit : +><i> Le mercredi 22 septembre 2010 à 21:19 +0200, Tux99 a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Maybe our future official forum admin will find a way to integrate the +</I>>><i> ML with the forum using a bi-directional gateway. +</I>>><i> I'd guess such a solution would suit everybody since it gives everyone +</I>>><i> individually the choice whether to use ML or forum or a bit of both. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I have been thinking of web-scraping forums, or tricking weboob +</I>><i> developers ( <A HREF="http://weboob.org/">http://weboob.org/</A> ) into doing this. But I fear the +</I>><i> different concept doesn't match together ( ie, lack of thread in most +</I>><i> forum I have encountered :/ ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But I would at least test such a software if it existed ( but I will not +</I>><i> guarantee it would suit me ). +</I>><i> +</I> +May be cool to try it and see it in action though. + + + +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000755.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#765">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#765">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#765">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#765">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000766.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000766.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eb906be27 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000766.html @@ -0,0 +1,306 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FThank_you_-_Merci_-_Danke_-_Gracias_-_%3F%3D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fb%3FR3JhemllIC0gT2JyaWdhZG8gLSDRgdC/0LDRgdC40LHQvg%3D%3D%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7dqe8%24uv3%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000759.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000774.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FThank_you_-_Merci_-_Danke_-_Gracias_-_%3F%3D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fb%3FR3JhemllIC0gT2JyaWdhZG8gLSDRgdC/0LDRgdC40LHQvg%3D%3D%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7dqe8%24uv3%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 22:54:31 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#766">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#766">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#766">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#766">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-09-22 16:04, Michael Scherer a écrit : +><i> Le mercredi 22 septembre 2010 à 12:11 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : +</I>>><i> Le 2010-09-22 10:41, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>>>><i> Le mardi 21 septembre 2010 à 16:53 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Would it make sense to also have a section for "mageia" domain owners to +</I>>>>><i> track domain owners who are willing to cooperate? You will eventually +</I>>>>><i> have to do this anyway. I would also consider this also a type of offer +</I>>>>><i> of cooperation and help. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Personally, I think we should not collect all domain names to give them +</I>>>><i> to the association : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The offer was to pass on the domain if the Mageia project wanted to have +</I>>><i> it. It adds flexibility +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> 1) each domain name will need admin time. Either to manage ( ie, set up +</I>>>><i> vhost, setup the zone, add a entry to the zone etc ), or to renew. While +</I>>>><i> renewing 1 domain name every year is easy, renewing 10 or 20 on 10 to 20 +</I>>>><i> different resellers, for different prices and so on will be quite +</I>>>><i> annoying. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> When passing off a domain, the reseller is transferred. You then +</I>>><i> consolidate all under on reseller. I do this all the time. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, depending on the domain, I am not sure that all of them can be +</I>><i> transferred everywhere. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For example, .ie is restricted as Colin Guthrie explained to me for the +</I>><i> 10 years of Mandriva. And it seems that you cannot buy .ie at gandi.net, +</I>><i> which is the reseller we have used. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So I do not know if they can manage every type of TLD. +</I> +If you register with a larger reseller, they will have offices in most +countries to get around this. They then offer you an account that +consolidates all domains. The contact information is then coordinated +from this account. + +><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> 2) this will also generate work for people in charge of comptability, +</I>>>><i> and we know that people doing the work of a CFO are a scarce ressources +</I>>>><i> ( CFO may not be the proper word, but I didn't found better ). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> You set a pointer to the main site and there is no need to use the other +</I>>><i> domain names if you do not wish. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I mean administrative work, like taking care of the bill, reporting them +</I>><i> on the financial report, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I never managed a association as a treasurer, so I do not know how much +</I>><i> paperwork is really required, or if this is really annoying, but all the +</I>><i> one that I know are always already overworked, so I am sure that less +</I>><i> work is better. +</I>><i> +</I> +It is really not that much of a burden. You can coordinate the billing +periods with your reseller. They will be more than happy to help you +with this. + +><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> If we use for http : +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> 4) too much domain will be a pain from a ssl point of view. If we start +</I>>>><i> to need ssl for a site, and there is 10 Vhost for it, we will just have +</I>>>><i> 10 time the work to renew certificates. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Not applicable if you redirect the domains. You would then only have to +</I>>><i> establish certificates for those domains that you intend to use. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I beg to differ. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For a http redirect, this will require first to connect using https then +</I>><i> send the redirect at http level, so a valid certificate is needed before +</I>><i> the redirect. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you speak of a "dns redirect", you can either use a A record, in +</I>><i> which case the issue would still be valid since browser will ask for the +</I>><i> certificate of the first domain name, not the redirected one. Or you can +</I>><i> use a CNAME record, in which case, the issue is the same. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe I forgot something or overlooked it however, but I am quite +</I>><i> confident of this. And since this will be different TLDs, you cannot use +</I>><i> a wildcard certificate. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course, a solution would be to basically use the same certificate +</I>><i> everywhere and let warnings appear, this is not a big issue. +</I> +Your reseller and/or hosting service would most likely help you out with +this as well. + +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> 5) too much domain will also requires more work for simple http, since +</I>>>><i> we will have lots of them. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Not applicable if you set a pointer. This will also depend on the amount +</I>>><i> of website developers help who have signed up. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, it mostly depend on the number of vhost needed. For exemple, if we +</I>><i> want to have blog.example.fr redirect to blog.example.org, we need to +</I>><i> create a vhost with the redirection. Te issue can be alleviated by using +</I>><i> some mod_rewrite tricks. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But yes, for the case you gave of simple http redirect, this is not +</I>><i> tricky to handle. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But it depend on what will be needed. Worst case would be to have +</I>><i> conditional vhost for each domain ( like only have a blog on some +</I>><i> subdomain and not others ). +</I> +The hosting service I use give you unlimited redirects and domain +parking. -- 123ehost.com. It works well and quite painless. These are +set up in minutes. + +><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> 6) too much different url will just mean more confusion. I may also fear +</I>>>><i> this could be seen by major search engine as unethic SEO, and thus be +</I>>>><i> punished ( since link farm is a commonly used technic to try to hijack +</I>>>><i> some keywords ). But Google, Yahoo and Bing systems are closed source, +</I>>>><i> so I do not know. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This is not unethic as all business on the internet do this as common +</I>>><i> practice. Try to type in URL's for any major corporation, or Yahoo!, +</I>>><i> Google, Bing etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, yahoo.fr and yahoo.com do not give the same server, and there is +</I>><i> some high level redirection. So does Dell ( 2 differents sites ), Apple +</I>><i> ( not the same server, not the same page, redirection to .com with a +</I>><i> url ), Microsoft ( does like Apple ), Renault ( not the same ip, some +</I>><i> wierd redirection ), Peugeot. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ie, among the test i did, only Google and Bind do have the same page +</I>><i> across various urls. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So my own understanding is that they appear to be different entities to +</I>><i> most search engines. +</I> +Due to the load on their services, as well as different national +conditions put on these companies (RIM and problems with their +BlackBerry servers in UAE and India etc is a good example), to them, it +makes sense to have separate servers. However, Mageia would not suffer +at the outset from such a load and if it did, you could then make +allowances for this. + +><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> If we use for mail : +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> 7) too much domain will simply mean more spam. If we offer multiple +</I>>>><i> email ( like "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">example at mageia.org</A>, and .de, and .fr and .cn, and so on ), +</I>>>><i> email will simply appear in more list, and therefore be more spammed. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Domains do not have to be activated for mail. If a domain is not +</I>>><i> activated for mail service then the mail bounces back to the sender. +</I>>><i> This is done all of the time. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, that why I have said "if we use it for mail". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And I see at least 1 person using the domain name he bought and offered +</I>><i> us to use ( see Tomáš Kindl on +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ressources">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ressources</A> ). +</I>><i> +</I> +This is easily set up. Mageia devs and core groups (once formally +established) are more than welcome to have a "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">____ at mageia.ca</A> mail +account if they want one. I will set that up for them along with POP, +SMTP and Webmail. + +>>><i> +</I>>>><i> 9) and of course, too much domain name, like for websites will mean more +</I>>>><i> confusion. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> It means less confusion. mageia.org will lead to main site; mageia.ca +</I>>><i> does lead to main site; magiea.nl would lead to main site; mageia.net +</I>>><i> would lead to main site; mageia.info would lead to main site ... How +</I>>><i> would this be confusing? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I was not clear, I was speaking of mail address ( if we use them ). +</I>><i> And so this would bring confusion because people often rely on the mail +</I>><i> to see if someone is a official developer or not. Hence, if we use the +</I>><i> domain for mail, people will use them to post on ml, I assume people +</I>><i> will use them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course, as you said, we can also decide to not use it. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> By doing business the way that you advocate, you actually lower the +</I>>><i> fidelity that one would assume of a serious group. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We are not creating a business, but a free software project, IIRC. So +</I>><i> some concepts may not be applicable directly. And I think that part of +</I>><i> the fidelity would be earned with local user group with their own +</I>><i> identity and presence, and likely their own choices, independances and +</I>><i> domain names. +</I> +If you are looking for foundation grants or government grants, they will +want to see a business model. They will not lend money to Mageia on +loose terms. Would you? The core group will have no choice but to adopt +a business plan if they really want the project to reach their +advertised goals. Ask any arts group that has applied for grants. + +><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> So +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> 10) by registering every possible variation, we are acting selfishly +</I>>>><i> toward others netizens. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> You have already covered these points up above with #9. #10 is not a new +</I>>><i> point. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> No, 10 is for the paragraph about "lack of good domain name on the +</I>><i> internet" before, based on the problem about finding a name, and about +</I>><i> being nice with other people who may use the name in unrelated way. +</I>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> The only answer I got was about security. But seriously, security of +</I>>>><i> what ? Protecting from people doing phishing ? Bank already fail at +</I>>>><i> this, and you think we can ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Who mentioned security? This is all about flexibility. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> First time I mentioned the issue 2 days ago. But I think this was on +</I>><i> irc, since I cannot find anything in the mailling list archives :/ +</I> +No worry there, there are already speculators who have gobbled up the +"Mageia" domain permutations that they think will stick, hoping that the +Mageia project will bring great success. This, hoping to cash out later +on. I even sent a note out to Anne on Sunday night letting her know that +the sites were being bought out at a feverish pace. + +This is why I think that a further name change later on may be in the +cards if we find that the "Mageia" domain situation is untenable. +><i> +</I>><i> ( if someone can confirm that I didn't dream... ) +</I>><i> +</I> + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#766">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#766">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#766">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#766">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000767.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000767.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..40554b900 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000767.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9A6E70.5020409%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000764.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000770.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9A6E70.5020409%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 23:00:32 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000770.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#767">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#767">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#767">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#767">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Marc Paré wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> I think that I am not different than most other users. The life of +</I>><i> devs is a mystery to us. We often wonder how you spend your lives etc. +</I>><i> Maybe one of you could throw together a real-life mystery novel on the +</I>><i> "Live of a dev". LOL +</I> +I'm a dev, although not very much here. Devs want considered, +structured input, and not several hundred one-line posts from +technically uninformed people giving their personal opinion on technical +issues. + +There's an old (and somewhat sexist) joke that has a guy telling his +girlfriend, "if you want a problem solved, tell it to me; if you just +want to vent, tell it to your girlfriends - that's what they're for". +There's a similar issue here. Devs don't want to hear about how much +time the bug cost you, or how foolish it made you look in front of your +friends, or how you just won't be able to go on living if it isn't +fixed, or your estimate of how many people are going to move from +[distro-1] to [distro-2] because of this. A Dev's concern is: + + 1) is it really something that should be fixed (in the philosophy or +design of the project) ? + 2) what is its priority relative to other work (this usually doesn't +come from the user) ? + 3) has the reporter done as much as possible to get the bug to the +point where the Dev can work on it as opposed to researching the +situation(s) that reproduce it ? + +Bug reports are as close to this as we're going to get. Not all bug +reports are good ones, granted. But most of them are of much higher +quality than hit-and-run comments in a forum. They also have the +advantage of getting quality input from a triage team member or a Dev +early on, which avoids wasting users' time by pinpointing actions that +can narrow the focus of the bug. + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000770.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#767">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#767">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#767">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#767">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000768.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000768.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..88f8124e5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000768.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinkk0J1NYmxMQod02vjtAMQS2tL4d0qsQYFVf8D%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000763.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000771.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinkk0J1NYmxMQod02vjtAMQS2tL4d0qsQYFVf8D%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 23:05:56 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#768">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#768">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#768">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#768">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Paul, question: + +Is this forum of yours mulitlanguage capable? you know like the +international forum of Mandriva which also hosts a french section and +others, while the user only sees the language forum he selects with +the icons, English being the default. +We are currently discussing our plans for the German language forum +and there are some options depending on the capabilities of the +infrastructure. One is such a scenario as part of the central +multilanguage system, the other is a redirect vie icon in the +offcicial forum header - just like the Mandriva forum. +Could you comment pls? +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#768">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#768">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#768">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#768">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000769.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000769.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c97ab619a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000769.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Added Topics on the signup Wiki -- Thanks + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Added%20Topics%20on%20the%20signup%20Wiki%20--%20Thanks&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7drhs%243ml%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000762.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000777.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Added Topics on the signup Wiki -- Thanks</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Added%20Topics%20on%20the%20signup%20Wiki%20--%20Thanks&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7drhs%243ml%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Added Topics on the signup Wiki -- Thanks">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 23:13:32 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000762.html">[Mageia-discuss] A suggestion regarding community organization. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000777.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#769">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#769">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#769">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#769">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Thanks to whoever has added the extra topics on the signup Wiki. It is +well appreciated. Marketing and communication are now included. + + +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php</A> + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000762.html">[Mageia-discuss] A suggestion regarding community organization. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000777.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#769">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#769">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#769">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#769">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000770.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000770.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..98737c396 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000770.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikV0hquC%3DzdpqqYsFGKQHSEVhmXOG8eHWBzSbF_%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000767.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000775.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikV0hquC%3DzdpqqYsFGKQHSEVhmXOG8eHWBzSbF_%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 23:20:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#770">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#770">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#770">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#770">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/22 Frank Griffin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> I'm a dev, although not very much here.  Devs want considered, +</I>><i> structured input, and not several hundred one-line posts from +</I>><i> technically uninformed people giving their personal opinion on technical +</I>><i> issues. +</I> +I see your point as I see other devel's points in the same line. The +situation is similar to the garage, I turn up with my car and tell the +mechanic "There's something wrong with that car." - that's similar to +your one-liner user forum posting. Of course there is something wrong, +otherwise I would not have visited the repair shop in the first place! +The mechanic is similar to you developpers, he is happy when he can +lay his hands on a car without all those remarks from car owners who +can't even find their 8 cylinder big block when you open the hood! But +a communication between those 2 entities is unavoidable - the problem +is to make it as easy as possible for *both*. + +IMHO there are places like Bugzilla but I also think that some kind of +interpreter entity and/or platform could be helpful for both sides +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#770">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#770">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#770">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#770">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000771.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000771.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4bf4c2884 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000771.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C00d601cb5a9c%2480682ce0%24813886a0%24%40mcrides.co.nz%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000768.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000756.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums</H1> + <B>Paul Willard</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C00d601cb5a9c%2480682ce0%24813886a0%24%40mcrides.co.nz%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums">paul at mcrides.co.nz + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 23:24:06 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000768.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000756.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#771">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#771">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#771">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#771">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>-----Original Message----- +From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A> +[mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>] On Behalf Of Wolfgang Bornath +Sent: Thursday, 23 September 2010 9:06 a.m. +To: Mageia general discussions +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + +Paul, question: + +Is this forum of yours mulitlanguage capable? you know like the +international forum of Mandriva which also hosts a french section and +others, while the user only sees the language forum he selects with the +icons, English being the default. +We are currently discussing our plans for the German language forum and +there are some options depending on the capabilities of the infrastructure. +One is such a scenario as part of the central multilanguage system, the +other is a redirect vie icon in the offcicial forum header - just like the +Mandriva forum. +Could you comment pls? +_______________________________________________ + +Good question !!!! :) +Yes .. although I don't have any language packs installed + +Paul Willard + +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000768.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000756.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#771">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#771">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#771">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#771">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000772.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000772.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..096db0d97 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000772.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922212430.GA29417%40shikamaru.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000765.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000640.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums</H1> + <B>Remy CLOUARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C20100922212430.GA29417%40shikamaru.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums">shikamaru at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 23:24:30 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#772">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#772">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#772">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#772">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 08:39:57PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: +><i> - you cannot read them offline ( in, when you commute, like what I do ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - most of the time, you cannot read them on your phone ( see the commute +</I>><i> part ) +</I>><i> +</I>As far as I’m concerned, it’s even worse as I’m from monday to friday +morning on a mobile broadband connection. If you haven’t used that, +imagine going back to a 56K connection. That’s exactly what I have at +the moment so I’m not going to have to wait several hours until a page +of a forum is fully loaded (several hundreds of kilobytes at least). + +Forum is a no-go for me, while I can only spend some kilobytes for +getting the mails sent today with offlineimap, +Same goes for irc, which is just efficient for instant messaging. + +For the above reason, I’m not going to change for a forum which will +load tons of images and waste my bandwidth. :-) + +Regards, +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 230 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100922/4871ad6b/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#772">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#772">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#772">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#772">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000773.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000773.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..495fe44da --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000773.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FThank_you_-_Merci_-_Danke_-_Gracias_-_%3F%3D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fb%3FR3JhemllIC0gT2JyaWdhZG8gLSDRgdC/0LDRgdC40LHQvg%3D%3D%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3C42B950488390CA4F8ECEFA01FD6854811633AE2F31%40ADC001.mydotcom.local%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000774.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000702.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо</H1> + <B>Frank Loewe</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FThank_you_-_Merci_-_Danke_-_Gracias_-_%3F%3D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fb%3FR3JhemllIC0gT2JyaWdhZG8gLSDRgdC/0LDRgdC40LHQvg%3D%3D%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3C42B950488390CA4F8ECEFA01FD6854811633AE2F31%40ADC001.mydotcom.local%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо">loewe at dotcom-service.net + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 23:24:44 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000702.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#773">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#773">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#773">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#773">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Ok pals, +to take the discussion about domains an end. + +We have 200-300 Domains on our own for further projects, or even for nothing, on our own. +I think, every ISP has this amount or more for "further use", in the bunker. + +So 10 or 20 Domains are not the Problem for the Project mageia. + +So where is the prob? The cost... paaaah. does not matter. 1000$ a year for domains... it´s nothing. + +-- +Mit freundlichem Gruß +Frank Loewe +Geschäftsführer + +dotcom-service Ltd. & Co. 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This, hoping to cash out later on. +</I>><i> I even sent a note out to Anne on Sunday night letting her know that the +</I>><i> sites were being bought out at a feverish pace. +</I> +One of the first questions I asked when I heard about the plan was: +what will be the name so I can grab the domain before any greedy +speculator gets his paws on everything that sounds like it?". +I registered mageia.de. It is up to the board what will become of it. +It does not cost me any money and I can use it either as webpage for +german informations on Mageia or let it stay a simple redirect to +mageia.org or place a list of links to various Mageia pages as a sort +of bookmark page for the mageia user. +And I can always give it to the project if needed. + +So at the moment I do not see any problems because this page does not +cost the project any money, it does not need any attention by the net +admins. +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000773.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#774">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#774">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#774">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#774">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000775.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000775.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..56aa549f5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000775.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3C201009222330.34131.fri%40tribun.eu%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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+ +Users that feel something is wrong but feel they can not clealy express what, +or need help diggin into it, should be encouraged to start a thread in the +forum. + +Then that user might learn enough to write a good issue report, or someone +else in that thread could offer to help. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000770.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000776.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#775">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#775">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#775">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#775">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000776.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000776.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..261264b4f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000776.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Forums&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikVC3FtefPNyLFw2NoxOaxMOjBMH9Z4Wh7-4Er3%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Was it used and did it work? Yes, in +some cases. +If this system would be more advertized and used then I think it would +improve the situation. + +We could have "bug friends" who an unexperienced user could turn to for help. +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000751.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#776">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#776">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#776">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#776">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000777.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000777.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ea61d1bc1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/000777.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20State%20of%20the%20kitchen&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikuK%3DCCxHVhRqa1q3fPos%2BCmEbraJuwLA5PZeuU%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000769.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen</H1> + <B>Anne nicolas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20State%20of%20the%20kitchen&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikuK%3DCCxHVhRqa1q3fPos%2BCmEbraJuwLA5PZeuU%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen">ennael1 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 23:49:05 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000769.html">[Mageia-discuss] Added Topics on the signup Wiki -- Thanks +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#777">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#777">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#777">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#777">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi all + +News on our messy kitchen available below :) +<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18">http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18</A> + +(other languages coming soon) + +As you can see work is going on and we are doing everything so that we +can start very soon. +As a reminder, you can register on <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki">http://mageia.org/wiki</A> if you wish +to contribute or have a look on <A HREF="http://donation.mageia.org">http://donation.mageia.org</A> to help +Mageia project. + +Thanks again for your support +Cheers! + +------- +Anne +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000769.html">[Mageia-discuss] Added Topics on the signup Wiki -- Thanks +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#777">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#777">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#777">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#777">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/001284.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/001284.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ff1209117 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/001284.html @@ -0,0 +1,63 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C1285148883.22305.3.camel%40localhost.localdomain%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000667.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000680.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker</H1> + <B>David Coulette</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20name%20for%20cooker&In-Reply-To=%3C1285148883.22305.3.camel%40localhost.localdomain%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker">dcoulette at yahoo.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 22 11:48:03 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1284">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1284">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1284">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1284">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>cooker+magic (alchemy actually) + + +=> Crucible ? + + + + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1284">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1284">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1284">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1284">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..616ff3565 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,887 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 22 September 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>22 September 2010 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Sep 22 00:01:43 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 22 23:49:05 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 168<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="000730.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="730"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-discuss] suggestion +</A><A NAME="675"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="678"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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[Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="661"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000704.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="704"> </A> +<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia +</A><A NAME="666"> </A> +<I>Catalin Florin RUSSEN +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="669"> </A> +<I>Catalin Florin RUSSEN +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="684"> </A> +<I>Catalin Florin RUSSEN +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000709.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="709"> </A> +<I>Catalin Florin RUSSEN +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000744.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A><A NAME="744"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000762.html">[Mageia-discuss] A suggestion regarding community organization. +</A><A NAME="762"> </A> +<I>Gamaliel Lamboy Rodríguez +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="656"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="683"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000690.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="690"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000691.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="691"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000716.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="716"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000627.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="627"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000707.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="707"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000745.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="745"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000700.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="700"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000702.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="702"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000737.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A><A NAME="737"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="741"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000755.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="755"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000756.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="756"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="759"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000611.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] pronounciation +</A><A NAME="611"> </A> +<I>Jochen Schönfelder +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000623.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="623"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000625.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="625"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000629.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="629"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000696.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="696"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000725.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="725"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000726.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="726"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000758.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Cooker"'s name, the poll +</A><A NAME="758"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="650"> </A> +<I>Tonton +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="657"> </A> +<I>Tonton +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="658"> </A> +<I>Tonton +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="671"> </A> +<I>Tonton +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000633.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="633"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000636.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="636"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000713.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="713"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000718.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="718"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000751.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="751"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000622.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestion on boardmembership +</A><A NAME="622"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="645"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000757.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="757"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="655"> </A> +<I>Samuel Verschelde +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="763"> </A> +<I>Paul Willard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="771"> </A> +<I>Paul Willard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000688.html">[Mageia-discuss] UNSUBSCRIBE +</A><A NAME="688"> </A> +<I>Ken Williams +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="698"> </A> +<I>francisco monge a +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software +</A><A NAME="617"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-discuss] suggestion +</A><A NAME="660"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="652"> </A> +<I>franck +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="651"> </A> +<I>nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="643"> </A> +<I>herman +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="670"> </A> +<I>herman +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000614.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 82 +</A><A NAME="614"> </A> +<I>miodragz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="662"> </A> +<I>neo67 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="682"> </A> +<I>neo67 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="693"> </A> +<I>neo67 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="659"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia +</A><A NAME="667"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000777.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen +</A><A NAME="777"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="609"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="646"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="663"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="665"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="681"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000699.html">[Mageia-discuss] Czech language +</A><A NAME="699"> </A> +<I>alexandr at vasilenko.cz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spanish translation of the first blog post. +</A><A NAME="687"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation?to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="654"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="674"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000703.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="703"> </A> +<I>borg1911-n6 at yahoo.com +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Wed Sep 22 23:49:05 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 19:32:55 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/date.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/date.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..97644ff55 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/date.html @@ -0,0 +1,887 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 22 September 2010 Archive by date</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>22 September 2010 Archives by date</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Sep 22 00:01:43 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 22 23:49:05 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 168<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="000609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="609"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000611.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] pronounciation +</A><A NAME="611"> </A> +<I>Jochen Schönfelder +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000612.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="612"> </A> +<I>Frédéric CUIF +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000614.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 82 +</A><A NAME="614"> </A> +<I>miodragz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000615.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining +</A><A NAME="615"> </A> +<I>Chris Ellis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="616"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software +</A><A NAME="617"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining +</A><A NAME="618"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="619"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 82 +</A><A NAME="620"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining +</A><A NAME="621"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000622.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestion on boardmembership +</A><A NAME="622"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000623.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="623"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000624.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 80 +</A><A NAME="624"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000625.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="625"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000626.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="626"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000627.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="627"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000628.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="628"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000629.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="629"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000630.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software +</A><A NAME="630"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000631.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="631"> </A> +<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000632.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="632"> </A> +<I>Graham Lauder +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000633.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="633"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000634.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="634"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000635.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="635"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000636.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="636"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000637.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="637"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000638.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="638"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000639.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="639"> </A> +<I>John Bowden +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A><A NAME="640"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000641.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="641"> </A> +<I>Olav Dahlum +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000642.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="642"> </A> +<I>Drakedalfa +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="643"> </A> +<I>herman +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="644"> </A> +<I>Sandro Cazzaniga +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? 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[Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="654"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="656"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="657"> </A> +<I>Tonton +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-discuss] suggestion +</A><A NAME="660"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="655"> </A> +<I>Samuel Verschelde +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="658"> </A> +<I>Tonton +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="659"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="661"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="662"> </A> +<I>neo67 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="663"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="664"> </A> +<I>Olav Dahlum +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="665"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia +</A><A NAME="666"> </A> +<I>Catalin Florin RUSSEN +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia +</A><A NAME="667"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="668"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="669"> </A> +<I>Catalin Florin RUSSEN +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="670"> </A> +<I>herman +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="671"> </A> +<I>Tonton +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="672"> </A> +<I>Sander Lepik +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="674"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="673"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-discuss] suggestion +</A><A NAME="675"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="676"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="677"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="678"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="679"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001284.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="1284"> </A> +<I>David Coulette +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="681"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="680"> </A> +<I>David Coulette +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="682"> </A> +<I>neo67 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="683"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="684"> </A> +<I>Catalin Florin RUSSEN +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good Discussion +</A><A NAME="686"> </A> +<I>Michael Moore +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="685"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spanish translation of the first blog post. +</A><A NAME="687"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000688.html">[Mageia-discuss] UNSUBSCRIBE +</A><A NAME="688"> </A> +<I>Ken Williams +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="689"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000690.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="690"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000691.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="691"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000692.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A><A NAME="692"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="693"> </A> +<I>neo67 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000694.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="694"> </A> +<I>Malo +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000695.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A><A NAME="695"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000696.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="696"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000697.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="697"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000699.html">[Mageia-discuss] Czech language +</A><A NAME="699"> </A> +<I>alexandr at vasilenko.cz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="698"> </A> +<I>francisco monge a +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000700.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="700"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000701.html">[Mageia-discuss] Czech language +</A><A NAME="701"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000702.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="702"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000703.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="703"> </A> +<I>borg1911-n6 at yahoo.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000704.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="704"> </A> +<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000705.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="705"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000706.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="706"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000707.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="707"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000708.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="708"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000709.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="709"> </A> +<I>Catalin Florin RUSSEN +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000710.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="710"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000711.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="711"> </A> +<I>Nex6 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000712.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="712"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000713.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="713"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000715.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="715"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000714.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="714"> </A> +<I>Kira +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000716.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="716"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="717"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000718.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="718"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000719.html">[Mageia-discuss] Foundation mailing list [Was: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..?] +</A><A NAME="719"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000720.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="720"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000721.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="721"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000722.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="722"> </A> +<I>Nex6 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000723.html">[Mageia-discuss] Foundation mailing list [Was: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..?] +</A><A NAME="723"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000724.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="724"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000725.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="725"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000726.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="726"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000727.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="727"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000728.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="728"> </A> +<I>Nex6 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000729.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="729"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000730.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="730"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000732.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A><A NAME="732"> </A> +<I>Alonso Marroquin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A><A NAME="731"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000733.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A><A NAME="733"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000734.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A><A NAME="734"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000735.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A><A NAME="735"> </A> +<I>Alonso Marroquin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000736.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A><A NAME="736"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000737.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A><A NAME="737"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000738.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="738"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000739.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A><A NAME="739"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000740.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A><A NAME="740"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="741"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000742.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="742"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000743.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="743"> </A> +<I>Nex6 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000744.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A><A NAME="744"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000745.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="745"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000746.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="746"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000747.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A><A NAME="747"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000748.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="748"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="749"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="750"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000751.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="751"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000752.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="752"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000753.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="753"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000754.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="754"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000755.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="755"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000756.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="756"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000757.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="757"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000758.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Cooker"'s name, the poll +</A><A NAME="758"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="759"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000760.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="760"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="761"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000762.html">[Mageia-discuss] A suggestion regarding community organization. +</A><A NAME="762"> </A> +<I>Gamaliel Lamboy Rodríguez +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="763"> </A> +<I>Paul Willard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="764"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="765"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="766"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="767"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000768.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="768"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000769.html">[Mageia-discuss] Added Topics on the signup Wiki -- Thanks +</A><A NAME="769"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000770.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="770"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="771"> </A> +<I>Paul Willard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="772"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000773.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="773"> </A> +<I>Frank Loewe +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="774"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="775"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000776.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="776"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000777.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen +</A><A NAME="777"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Wed Sep 22 23:49:05 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 19:32:55 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/index.html new file mode 120000 index 000000000..db4b46f72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/index.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +thread.html
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[Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="633"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000637.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="637"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation?to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="654"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="645"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="655"> </A> +<I>Samuel Verschelde +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="677"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000641.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="641"> </A> +<I>Olav Dahlum +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="659"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="661"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="664"> </A> +<I>Olav Dahlum +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="679"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000710.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="710"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000713.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="713"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000720.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva] +</A><A NAME="720"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000611.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] pronounciation +</A><A NAME="611"> </A> +<I>Jochen Schönfelder +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000762.html">[Mageia-discuss] A suggestion regarding community organization. +</A><A NAME="762"> </A> +<I>Gamaliel Lamboy Rodríguez +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000769.html">[Mageia-discuss] Added Topics on the signup Wiki -- Thanks +</A><A NAME="769"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000704.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="704"> </A> +<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000705.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="705"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000706.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="706"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000707.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="707"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000708.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="708"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="717"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="619"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000628.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="628"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000632.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="632"> </A> +<I>Graham Lauder +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000634.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="634"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000635.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="635"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="652"> </A> +<I>franck +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="698"> </A> +<I>francisco monge a +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000730.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="730"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000738.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="738"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000745.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="745"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="761"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000699.html">[Mageia-discuss] Czech language +</A><A NAME="699"> </A> +<I>alexandr at vasilenko.cz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000701.html">[Mageia-discuss] Czech language +</A><A NAME="701"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000719.html">[Mageia-discuss] Foundation mailing list [Was: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..?] +</A><A NAME="719"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000723.html">[Mageia-discuss] Foundation mailing list [Was: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..?] +</A><A NAME="723"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="662"> </A> +<I>neo67 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="668"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="674"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="673"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="678"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="681"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="682"> </A> +<I>neo67 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="689"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Future of mageia +</A><A NAME="693"> </A> +<I>neo67 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good Discussion +</A><A NAME="686"> </A> +<I>Michael Moore +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="609"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000612.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="612"> </A> +<I>Frédéric CUIF +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="616"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000626.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="626"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="649"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000727.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="727"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000615.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining +</A><A NAME="615"> </A> +<I>Chris Ellis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining +</A><A NAME="618"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining +</A><A NAME="621"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000636.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="636"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000638.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="638"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="643"> </A> +<I>herman +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000741.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="741"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000742.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="742"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000743.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="743"> </A> +<I>Nex6 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000746.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="746"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="750"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000751.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="751"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000752.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="752"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000753.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="753"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000754.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="754"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000755.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="755"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000756.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="756"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000757.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="757"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="763"> </A> +<I>Paul Willard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="764"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000765.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="765"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000767.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="767"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000768.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="768"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000770.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="770"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="771"> </A> +<I>Paul Willard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="772"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="775"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000776.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="776"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A><A NAME="640"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000692.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A><A NAME="692"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000695.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia websites/maillists/irc +</A><A NAME="695"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000624.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 80 +</A><A NAME="624"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000614.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 82 +</A><A NAME="614"> </A> +<I>miodragz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 82 +</A><A NAME="620"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000736.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A><A NAME="736"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000739.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A><A NAME="739"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000744.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A><A NAME="744"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000747.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A><A NAME="747"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000623.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="623"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000625.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="625"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000627.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="627"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000629.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="629"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000631.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="631"> </A> +<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000639.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="639"> </A> +<I>John Bowden +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000642.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="642"> </A> +<I>Drakedalfa +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="644"> </A> +<I>Sandro Cazzaniga +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="646"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="647"> </A> +<I>Thorsten van Lil +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="648"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="650"> </A> +<I>Tonton +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="651"> </A> +<I>nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="656"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="657"> </A> +<I>Tonton +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="658"> </A> +<I>Tonton +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="663"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="665"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="669"> </A> +<I>Catalin Florin RUSSEN +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="670"> </A> +<I>herman +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="671"> </A> +<I>Tonton +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="672"> </A> +<I>Sander Lepik +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="676"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001284.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="1284"> </A> +<I>David Coulette +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="680"> </A> +<I>David Coulette +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="683"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="684"> </A> +<I>Catalin Florin RUSSEN +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="685"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000690.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="690"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000691.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="691"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000694.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="694"> </A> +<I>Malo +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000696.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="696"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000697.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="697"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000703.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="703"> </A> +<I>borg1911-n6 at yahoo.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000709.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="709"> </A> +<I>Catalin Florin RUSSEN +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000711.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="711"> </A> +<I>Nex6 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000715.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="715"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000714.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="714"> </A> +<I>Kira +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000716.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="716"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000718.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="718"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000721.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="721"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000722.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="722"> </A> +<I>Nex6 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000724.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="724"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000725.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="725"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000726.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="726"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000728.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="728"> </A> +<I>Nex6 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000729.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="729"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000748.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="748"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="749"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000760.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="760"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000732.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A><A NAME="732"> </A> +<I>Alonso Marroquin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000733.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A><A NAME="733"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000734.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A><A NAME="734"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000735.html">[Mageia-discuss] New repos +</A><A NAME="735"> </A> +<I>Alonso Marroquin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"? +</A><A NAME="653"> </A> +<I>Cassian Braconnnier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia +</A><A NAME="666"> </A> +<I>Catalin Florin RUSSEN +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-discuss] Romanian Translation Team joining Mageia +</A><A NAME="667"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A><A NAME="731"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000737.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A><A NAME="737"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000740.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A><A NAME="740"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Spanish translation of the first blog post. +</A><A NAME="687"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000777.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen +</A><A NAME="777"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-discuss] suggestion +</A><A NAME="660"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-discuss] suggestion +</A><A NAME="675"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000622.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestion on boardmembership +</A><A NAME="622"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000700.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="700"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000702.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="702"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000712.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="712"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="759"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000766.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="766"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000773.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="773"> </A> +<I>Frank Loewe +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000774.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="774"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000688.html">[Mageia-discuss] UNSUBSCRIBE +</A><A NAME="688"> </A> +<I>Ken Williams +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software +</A><A NAME="617"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000630.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software +</A><A NAME="630"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Wed Sep 22 23:49:05 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 19:32:55 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/thread.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d552b6731 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100922/thread.html @@ -0,0 +1,1173 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 22 September 2010 Archive by thread</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>22 September 2010 Archives by thread</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Sep 22 00:01:43 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 22 23:49:05 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 168<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01285106503- --> +<LI><A HREF="000609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="609"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<!--0 01285106795- --> +<LI><A HREF="000611.html">[Mageia-discuss] [OT] pronounciation +</A><A NAME="611"> </A> +<I>Jochen Schönfelder +</I> + +<!--0 01285107208- --> +<LI><A HREF="000612.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="612"> </A> +<I>Frédéric CUIF +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285107208-01285110088- --> +<LI><A HREF="000616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="616"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285109062- --> +<LI><A HREF="000614.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 82 +</A><A NAME="614"> </A> +<I>miodragz +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285109062-01285112060- --> +<LI><A HREF="000620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 82 +</A><A NAME="620"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285109601- --> +<LI><A HREF="000615.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining +</A><A NAME="615"> </A> +<I>Chris Ellis +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285109601-01285112343- --> +<LI><A HREF="000621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining +</A><A NAME="621"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285110560- --> +<LI><A HREF="000617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software +</A><A NAME="617"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285110560-01285117732- --> +<LI><A HREF="000630.html">[Mageia-discuss] Website software +</A><A NAME="630"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285110840- --> +<LI><A HREF="000618.html">[Mageia-discuss] Joining +</A><A NAME="618"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<!--0 01285111098- --> +<LI><A HREF="000619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="619"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285111098-01285116014- --> +<LI><A HREF="000628.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="628"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<!--1 01285111098-01285118603- --> +<LI><A HREF="000632.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="632"> </A> +<I>Graham Lauder +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285111098-01285118603-01285122446- --> +<LI><A HREF="000634.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="634"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285111098-01285118603-01285122446-01285175475- --> +<LI><A HREF="000730.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="730"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<!--3 01285111098-01285118603-01285122446-01285175475-01285179637- --> +<LI><A HREF="000738.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="738"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285112656- --> +<LI><A HREF="000622.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestion on boardmembership +</A><A NAME="622"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--0 01285113255- --> +<LI><A HREF="000623.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="623"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285113255-01285124681- --> +<LI><A HREF="000639.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="639"> </A> +<I>John Bowden +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285113255-01285124681-01285129256- --> +<LI><A HREF="000642.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="642"> </A> +<I>Drakedalfa +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285113255-01285124681-01285129256-01285131476- --> +<LI><A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="644"> </A> +<I>Sandro Cazzaniga +</I> + +<!--3 01285113255-01285124681-01285129256-01285131476-01285136921- --> +<LI><A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="646"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<!--3 01285113255-01285124681-01285129256-01285131476-01285136921-01285137940- --> +<LI><A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="647"> </A> +<I>Thorsten van Lil +</I> + +<!--3 01285113255-01285124681-01285129256-01285131476-01285136921-01285137940-01285139291- --> +<LI><A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="648"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<!--3 01285113255-01285124681-01285129256-01285131476-01285136921-01285137940-01285139291-01285139681- --> +<LI><A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="650"> </A> +<I>Tonton +</I> + +<!--3 01285113255-01285124681-01285129256-01285131476-01285136921-01285137940-01285139291-01285139681-01285139770- --> +<LI><A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="651"> </A> +<I>nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr +</I> + +<!--3 01285113255-01285124681-01285129256-01285131476-01285136921-01285137940-01285139291-01285139681-01285139770-01285144506- --> +<LI><A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="657"> </A> +<I>Tonton +</I> + +<!--3 01285113255-01285124681-01285129256-01285131476-01285136921-01285137940-01285139291-01285139681-01285139770-01285144506-01285146499- --> +<LI><A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="665"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<!--3 01285113255-01285124681-01285129256-01285131476-01285136921-01285137940-01285139291-01285139681-01285139770-01285144506-01285146499-01285146838- --> +<LI><A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="669"> </A> +<I>Catalin Florin RUSSEN +</I> + +<!--3 01285113255-01285124681-01285129256-01285131476-01285136921-01285137940-01285139291-01285139681-01285139770-01285144506-01285146499-01285146838-01285147209- --> +<LI><A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="672"> </A> +<I>Sander Lepik +</I> + +<!--3 01285113255-01285124681-01285129256-01285131476-01285136921-01285137940-01285139291-01285146360- --> +<LI><A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="663"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<!--3 01285113255-01285124681-01285129256-01285131476-01285136921-01285137940-01285139291-01285146360-01285147108- --> +<LI><A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="671"> </A> +<I>Tonton +</I> + +<!--3 01285113255-01285124681-01285129256-01285131476-01285136921-01285147065- --> +<LI><A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="670"> </A> +<I>herman +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285113567- --> +<LI><A HREF="000624.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 80 +</A><A NAME="624"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<!--0 01285113645- --> +<LI><A HREF="000625.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="625"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<!--0 01285113743- --> +<LI><A HREF="000626.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="626"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285113743-01285139198- --> +<LI><A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="649"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285113743-01285139198-01285174909- --> +<LI><A HREF="000727.html">[Mageia-discuss] Google, yahoo, Hotmail and Flickr accounts +</A><A NAME="727"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285114488- --> +<LI><A HREF="000627.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="627"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<!--0 01285117026- --> +<LI><A HREF="000629.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="629"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285117026-01285117752- --> +<LI><A HREF="000631.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="631"> </A> +<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior +</I> + +<!--1 01285117026-01285144456- --> +<LI><A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="656"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285117026-01285144456-01285144649- --> +<LI><A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="658"> </A> +<I>Tonton +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285117026-01285144456-01285144649-01285149364- --> +<LI><A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="683"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<!--3 01285117026-01285144456-01285144649-01285149364-01285150222- --> +<LI><A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="685"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<!--3 01285117026-01285144456-01285144649-01285149364-01285150222-01285152708- --> +<LI><A HREF="000690.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="690"> </A> +<I>André Salaün +</I> + +<!--3 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Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="773"> </A> +<I>Frank Loewe +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285167499- --> +<LI><A HREF="000702.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A><A NAME="702"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--0 01285169782- --> +<LI><A HREF="000704.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="704"> </A> +<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285169782-01285170087- --> +<LI><A HREF="000705.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="705"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285169782-01285170087-01285172673- --> +<LI><A HREF="000717.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="717"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285169782-01285170193- --> +<LI><A HREF="000706.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="706"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<!--1 01285169782-01285170258- --> +<LI><A HREF="000707.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="707"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<!--1 01285169782-01285170812- --> +<LI><A HREF="000708.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding name in wiki +</A><A NAME="708"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285173192- --> +<LI><A HREF="000719.html">[Mageia-discuss] Foundation mailing list [Was: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..?] +</A><A NAME="719"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285173192-01285173899- --> +<LI><A HREF="000723.html">[Mageia-discuss] Foundation mailing list [Was: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..?] +</A><A NAME="723"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285175988- --> +<LI><A HREF="000731.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A><A NAME="731"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285175988-01285178975- --> +<LI><A HREF="000737.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A><A NAME="737"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285175988-01285178975-01285180191- --> +<LI><A HREF="000740.html">[Mageia-discuss] Rumor: VMWare will buy Novell Linux division (about OpenSuse offer) +</A><A NAME="740"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285178780- --> +<LI><A HREF="000736.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A><A NAME="736"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285178780-01285179827- --> +<LI><A HREF="000739.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A><A NAME="739"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285178780-01285179827-01285181488- --> +<LI><A HREF="000744.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A><A NAME="744"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285178780-01285179827-01285181488-01285181770- --> +<LI><A HREF="000747.html">[Mageia-discuss] MiB and Mageia +</A><A NAME="747"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285181593- --> +<LI><A HREF="000745.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="745"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<!--0 01285181766- --> +<LI><A HREF="000746.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="746"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<!--0 01285181786- --> +<LI><A HREF="000748.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="748"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285181786-01285181855- --> +<LI><A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="749"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285181786-01285181855-01285186387- --> +<LI><A HREF="000760.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="760"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285182859- --> +<LI><A HREF="000750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="750"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285182859-01285183631- --> +<LI><A HREF="000754.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="754"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<!--1 01285182859-01285187485- --> +<LI><A HREF="000763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="763"> </A> +<I>Paul Willard +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285182859-01285187485-01285189556- --> +<LI><A HREF="000768.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="768"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285182859-01285187485-01285189556-01285190646- --> +<LI><A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="771"> </A> +<I>Paul Willard +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285185370- --> +<LI><A HREF="000756.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A><A NAME="756"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--0 01285185679- --> +<LI><A HREF="000758.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Cooker"'s name, the poll +</A><A NAME="758"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<!--0 01285186897- --> +<LI><A HREF="000761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="761"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<!--0 01285186948- --> +<LI><A HREF="000762.html">[Mageia-discuss] A suggestion regarding community organization. +</A><A NAME="762"> </A> +<I>Gamaliel Lamboy Rodríguez +</I> + +<!--0 01285190012- --> +<LI><A HREF="000769.html">[Mageia-discuss] Added Topics on the signup Wiki -- Thanks +</A><A NAME="769"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<!--0 01285192145- --> +<LI><A HREF="000777.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen +</A><A NAME="777"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Wed Sep 22 23:49:05 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 19:32:55 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |