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+ <B>Tux99</B>
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+ <I>Wed Sep 22 04:32:11 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
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+&gt;<i> 2010/9/21 Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I can perfectly understand the reasons why that's the case when the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; developers are full-time employees and do the work as a job, but this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; shouldn't and mustn't be the case in a non-profit community project
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; where everyone is in it for the fun.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In this scenario devs are normally users themselves too, and even for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; their own satisfaction it should be natural that they at least
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; occasionally check user reactions to what they develop, by spending some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; time on forums (at least reading through them).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's a very idealistic point of view and I'd really like to read a
+</I>&gt;<i> developper's opinion on that. Because IIRC it was really a free
+</I>&gt;<i> developper who told me that developpers do not need users because they
+</I>&gt;<i> are developping for their own needs in the first place (I reasoned
+</I>&gt;<i> that users and developpers are needing each other as 2 parts in a
+</I>&gt;<i> shared system). And it was another who told me that he'd rather spend
+</I>&gt;<i> his time working on a problem than reading all that user stuff in the
+</I>&gt;<i> forums. No employees!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But I wish you were right.
+</I>
+I realise that what i described might not be the case in every FOSS
+project or not in even in the majority, but it isn't just wishful
+thinking, I know it is reality in some projects (even large projects).
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+For example in the XBMC project (which is very large too), several
+devs partecipate occasionally in end-user threads on the XBMC forum and
+the interaction works very well as the devs are marked as such on the
+forum so the interaction is normally very respectful.
+This benefits boths sides as the devs stay in touch with what the users
+think about new features or issues and the users benefit from an insight
+into the thinking that lead to specific design choices.
+
+I think the reason this works well on the XBMC project is because the
+devs themselves use a section of the forum to communicate among
+themselves (rather than a ML) and therefore since they are on the forum
+anyway, it's not a big effort for them to have a look at the active
+end-user threads, too.
+
+While I'm in no position to influence this, I believe that Mageia
+and it's community would greatly benefit if the Mageia devs would use a
+reserved section of the Mageia forum (a subforum where only devs can
+post) for cooker discussions rather than a mailing-list, since it would
+bring devs and users closer to each other and facilitate interaction.
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