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You will eventually +</I>><i> have to do this anyway. I would also consider this also a type of offer +</I>><i> of cooperation and help. +</I> +Personally, I think we should not collect all domain names to give them +to the association : + +1) each domain name will need admin time. Either to manage ( ie, set up +vhost, setup the zone, add a entry to the zone etc ), or to renew. While +renewing 1 domain name every year is easy, renewing 10 or 20 on 10 to 20 +different resellers, for different prices and so on will be quite +annoying. + +2) this will also generate work for people in charge of comptability, +and we know that people doing the work of a CFO are a scarce ressources +( CFO may not be the proper word, but I didn't found better ). + +3) too much domain name will cost money. I think that what ever we have, +money would likely better used everywhere than domain name. + + +Next it depend on what we do for the domain, but basically, either it is +use for http, or for mail. + +If we use for http : + +4) too much domain will be a pain from a ssl point of view. If we start +to need ssl for a site, and there is 10 Vhost for it, we will just have +10 time the work to renew certificates. + +5) too much domain will also requires more work for simple http, since +we will have lots of them. + +6) too much different url will just mean more confusion. I may also fear +this could be seen by major search engine as unethic SEO, and thus be +punished ( since link farm is a commonly used technic to try to hijack +some keywords ). But Google, Yahoo and Bing systems are closed source, +so I do not know. + +If we use for mail : + +7) too much domain will simply mean more spam. If we offer multiple +email ( like "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">example at mageia.org</A>, and .de, and .fr and .cn, and so on ), +email will simply appear in more list, and therefore be more spammed. + +8) too much domain will simply mean more work. Again, if we use every +domain for mail be it a multi domain alias, or worst, let the choice, we +will need to take this in account in lots of place in the information +system, and this will mean more work, more complexity, more fragility. + +9) and of course, too much domain name, like for websites will mean more +confusion. + +And finally, as I said before, we had a hard time finding a name because +because all the good one have been already used ( or trademarked ). +While people do not frivolously trademark name ( too costly ), there is +lots of domain name that are taken and finally unused. So by acting like +the others, we are simply causing trouble to others internet users. A +web site about magic trick could perfectly use mageia.tld without +causing trouble to us. A restaurant, anything could also do it. + +So + +10) by registering every possible variation, we are acting selfishly +toward others netizens. + + +So I do not really see what having lots of domain name would bring. +Maybe I do not see because I am root on the main dns server, maybe +because I already have my own domain name since so long time, I do not +know. + +The only answer I got was about security. But seriously, security of +what ? Protecting from people doing phishing ? Bank already fail at +this, and you think we can ? + +Protecting from people misusing the name ? there is trademark laws and +various others way ( not to mention that I do not see much to misuse at +the moment ). + +And frankly, there is too much variation beside top level domain to be +exhaustive to protect anything. + + +So for the 10 reasons I gave, and because I see almost no benefit, I +think the association shouldn't manage so much domains. I cannot prevent +people from renting them, but my 2 last point ( 9 and 10 ) still apply, +IMHO. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000701.html">[Mageia-discuss] Czech language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000712.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thank you - Merci - Danke - Gracias - Grazie - Obrigado - спасибо +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#700">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#700">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#700">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#700">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |