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+ <B>Remco Rijnders</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team organisation">remco at webconquest.com
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+ <I>Tue Aug 16 19:31:13 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Dear all,
+
+One of the more important but often overlooked tasks for projects like
+Mageia is the handling of bug reports received and follow up given to
+them. Quick resolution of reported problems and the proper routing of
+these reports is important to help Mageia improve in quality and grow in
+mindshare within the larger Linux community.
+
+Since Mageia started over 2400 bugs and other issues needing our attention
+have been filed in our bugzilla ( <A HREF="http://bugs.mageia.org/">http://bugs.mageia.org/</A> ). A very
+impressive job has been done so far by the various members of the bugsquad
+and the packagers and sysadmins who have had reports assigned to them.
+Most impressive has been the bulk of work that Ahmad did by himself since
+the bugsquad got started under his leadership. Due to time constraints he
+unfortunately announced last month that he had to step down from this
+position. Since that time the bugsquad team has been without a leader and
+a representative for that team within the Mageia council.
+
+Through this email I hope to solicit some help for and interest in this
+team (hence the Cc to the Mageia discuss list) as well as to discuss
+within the team (on the bugsquad mailing list) where we want to go with it
+and if anyone is willing to take over the lead for this team.
+
+Should you have any interest in the bugsquad team, please see the page on
+our wiki for information on the triage team and how to join the mailing
+list. The address for that is
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage</A>
+
+In order to keep the discussion in one place, I'd appreciate it if follow
+ups to this message solely go to the bugsquad list.
+
+I'm interested in hearing your thoughts.
+
+Thank you for your time and attention, thank you Ahmad for all the hard
+work done so far!
+
+Sincere regards,
+
+Remco
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team organisation">manuel+ml at hiebel.eu
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+ <I>Wed Aug 17 09:41:13 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le mardi 16 ao&#251;t 2011 &#224; 19:31 +0200, Remco Rijnders a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Dear all,
+</I>&gt;<i>[...]
+</I>&gt;<i> Sincere regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Remco
+</I>
+Hi all, and sorry for the wrong reply, I have subscribe to the list just
+this morning.
+
+I have no experience on bug triaging, I read the ml list and the
+posts of TV or Ahmad and the wiki page. But for a lot of bugs I don't
+know what to do.
+
+If nobody want to do that, I can take this job.
+
+But my English is very bad :/ ( as you can see), and I am not sure to be
+the best person to take that :)
+--
+Manuel Hiebel (leuhmanu)
+
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+<PRE>On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 09:41:13AM +0200, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
+&gt;<i>Le mardi 16 ao&#251;t 2011 &#224; 19:31 +0200, Remco Rijnders a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Dear all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>[...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sincere regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Remco
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Hi all, and sorry for the wrong reply, I have subscribe to the list just
+</I>&gt;<i>this morning.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>I have no experience on bug triaging, I read the ml list and the
+</I>&gt;<i>posts of TV or Ahmad and the wiki page. But for a lot of bugs I don't
+</I>&gt;<i>know what to do.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>If nobody want to do that, I can take this job.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>But my English is very bad :/ ( as you can see), and I am not sure to be
+</I>&gt;<i>the best person to take that :)
+</I>&gt;<i>--
+</I>&gt;<i>Manuel Hiebel (leuhmanu)
+</I>
+Hi Manuel,
+
+Nice to hear from you. I noticed that you have stepped up in recent weeks
+to fill some of the gaps in the triaging of problem reports that came into
+existance with Ahmad's decision to take a few steps back from the
+bugsquad.
+
+I am also willing to step up my efforts within this team and become more
+involved as I feel the bugsquad team is of too great importance to leave
+lingering unattended.
+
+Your concern on your English language skills is understandable, but I
+think you can make yourself understood and that is what matters more than
+scoring perfect on an English writing test. I believe that people who do
+the work also have a say in it and the representation of the team within
+the project. Should there be no other volunteers or should you want, I'm
+also willing to team up with you and perhaps make this more of a joint
+effort.
+
+As I see it, the triage team isn't doing all that bad but it would be nice
+if we could have more of a 'team' feeling to it. That is, have people
+available on the IRC channel as well as make better use of this list. This
+should help those who want to help out and also can help in case of doubts
+on the best approach to handle a bug, who to assign it to, and what
+package to assign it to.
+
+Furthermore, I think it is important for the triage team to have good
+contacts with the QA team, security team and sysadmins and ideally some
+overlap between the team members in those teams as well.
+
+Finally, I also think that bug reports should receive a timely follow up
+and that ideally once the problem is clear is assigned to someone for
+fixing. Open bug reports should be regulary reviewed to see if they are
+still current and still apply. Assigned bug reports should be brought to
+the attention of the assignee for a status update and reminder.
+
+I fear lack of time and to a lesser extend lack of experience in this
+field is one of the things that have hold me back in becoming more active
+within the team up till now.
+
+Kind regards,
+
+Remco (Remmy)
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+</I>&gt;<i>Remco (Remmy)
+</I>&gt;<i>with you
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+Yesterday was the meeting off the concil,
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2011/mageia-meeting.2011-08-22-19.11.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2011/mageia-meeting.2011-08-22-19.11.html</A> and we have speak about the triage team.
+
+One point is about the things to do to make triage more efficient.
+Indeed, there a big part of the that are assigned to bugsquad.
+
+So I will post tomorrow on mageia-dev to discuss about with packager and
+other people.
+
+The majority of the rpms has not maintenairs.
+For example, to who can we assign installer bug? there is not
+maintenairs for drakx-installer-*
+The same for Gnome bugs, like nautilus.
+Should we add in CC the packager ?
+
+Some bug can be easily fixed. Like 'Mandriva Linux' in strings of some
+text file, or other. For them, Dmorgan created the tag Junior_Job
+(<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/describekeywords.cgi">https://bugs.mageia.org/describekeywords.cgi</A>) seems similar to easyfix
+by Redhat.
+For other we need add missing rpm. dkms-syntek as example for no UVC
+Webcam.
+
+What can we do for reduce the number of Bugs ?
+Have a list of people who can help in solving some bugs. Gnome2, Gnome3,
+KDE4, XFCE, Kernel, Web application, Audio, Video card, Firmware, etc.
+
+Maybe we can also create an alias for a group of package ? like
+gnome3-maint AT groups.mageia.org.
+
+If you have other things do add don't hesitate.
+
+(And sorry for my bad English)
+--
+Manuel Hiebel (leuhmanu)
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+<PRE>On 23 August 2011 16:33, Manuel Hiebel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">manuel+ml at hiebel.eu</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> The majority of the rpms has not maintenairs.
+</I>&gt;<i> For example, to who can we assign installer bug? there is not
+</I>&gt;<i> maintenairs for drakx-installer-*
+</I>
+That's not bad.
+Installer is managed by a team (even if recently i was nearly the only
+one to contribute).
+I've a list of installer bugs that I read:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=drakx-install">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=drakx-install</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=installer">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=installer</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=install-text">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=install-text</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=install-stage1">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=install-stage1</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=drakx-installer-rescue">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=drakx-installer-rescue</A>
+
+&gt;<i> Some bug can be easily fixed. Like 'Mandriva Linux' in strings of some
+</I>&gt;<i> text file, or other. &#160;For them, Dmorgan created the tag Junior_Job
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/describekeywords.cgi">https://bugs.mageia.org/describekeywords.cgi</A>) seems similar to easyfix
+</I>&gt;<i> by Redhat.
+</I>
+Nice!
+Should be more advertized though.
+Maybe sharing a prerefistered search would be nice (like the one I share above)
+
+&gt;<i> What can we do for reduce the number of Bugs ?
+</I>
+Agressivily assign bugs to latest package uploader?
+
+&gt;<i> Maybe we can also create an alias for a group of package ? like
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome3-maint AT groups.mageia.org.
+</I>
+Could be usefull: gnome3-maint, kde-maint, drakx-maint
+
+My 2 cents
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+<PRE>Hi Thierry, thanks for the reply and great to see you here :)
+
+Le mardi 23 ao&#251;t 2011 &#224; 17:33 +0200, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 23 August 2011 16:33, Manuel Hiebel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">manuel+ml at hiebel.eu</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The majority of the rpms has not maintenairs.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For example, to who can we assign installer bug? there is not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; maintenairs for drakx-installer-*
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's not bad.
+</I>&gt;<i> Installer is managed by a team (even if recently i was nearly the only
+</I>&gt;<i> one to contribute).
+</I>&gt;<i> I've a list of installer bugs that I read:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=drakx-install">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=drakx-install</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=installer">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=installer</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=install-text">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=install-text</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=install-stage1">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=install-stage1</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=drakx-installer-rescue">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=drakx-installer-rescue</A>
+</I>
+So if the team is just you in the states of things, ok
+&gt;<i> &gt; Some bug can be easily fixed. Like 'Mandriva Linux' in strings of some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; text file, or other. For them, Dmorgan created the tag Junior_Job
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/describekeywords.cgi">https://bugs.mageia.org/describekeywords.cgi</A>) seems similar to easyfix
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; by Redhat.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nice!
+</I>&gt;<i> Should be more advertized though.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe sharing a prerefistered search would be nice (like the one I share above)
+</I>
+done
+&gt;<i> &gt; What can we do for reduce the number of Bugs ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Agressivily assign bugs to latest package uploader?
+</I>I am not sure that all packager (for example: ennael 300rpms or dmorgan
+1000rpm uploaded) can work their rpms's bugs.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Maybe we can also create an alias for a group of package ? like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; gnome3-maint AT groups.mageia.org.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could be usefull: gnome3-maint, kde-maint, drakx-maint
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My 2 cents
+</I>
+Finally I will send this evening rather mageia-dev, it will be more
+useful there.
+
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; What can we do for reduce the number of Bugs ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Agressivily assign bugs to latest package uploader?
+</I>&gt;<i> I am not sure that all packager (for example: ennael 300rpms or dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> 1000rpm uploaded) can work their rpms's bugs.
+</I>
+well we could also:
+- send a mail about the new bugs once a day to mageia-dev
+- and/or send a summary mail about the easy bugs once a day
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+We will post an blog post &quot;Why triage and QA are as important as
+packaging&quot; in a few days, if you want help you are welcome.
+
+<A HREF="http://piratepad.net/gN3X1LmNPh">http://piratepad.net/gN3X1LmNPh</A>
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">1314785110.8967.3.camel at vosdook</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>We will post an blog post &quot;Why triage and QA are as important as
+</I>&gt;<i>packaging&quot; in a few days, if you want help you are welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://piratepad.net/gN3X1LmNPh">http://piratepad.net/gN3X1LmNPh</A>
+</I>
+I gave it a go... feel free to expand and amend as necessary. I think
+especially the part on QA could use some further fleshing out still.
+
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+I consider the (first phase of) the adoption campaign finished, so here are some
+stats about it, and an opening for discussion about what to do next.
+
+We had 4931 packages without a maintainer, we now have 2043, so I think we can
+say that the campaign was a success in this regard : nearly 3000 source
+packages have found a maintainer.
+
+See <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/unmaintained.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/unmaintained.txt</A> for the list of orphan
+packages.
+
+Out of 57 packagers with submit rights (I might have missed a few that got
+submit rights recently, but it wont change the results much):
+- 35 are now &quot;full&quot; (or even took too much packages)
+- 11 answered at some point that they were going to have a look at the list
+and maybe grab more packages, but didn't give me feedback after that, even
+after a new mail sent. We can suppose that they are now &quot;full&quot; too.
+- 6 are inactive (no packaging in months)
+- 5 well-known active packagers never answered in 3 months either to the
+mailing list or to my direct mails (sent at @mageia.org addresses), which is a
+bit disappointing considering the amount of time I put into this campaign, but
+I want to thank the vast majority who was really willing to help in this
+campaign.
+
+The conclusion is that for most packagers the maintainers database is now up
+to date, with maybe a few more orphan packages that could find a maintainer,
+but not a lot.
+
+I would have liked that there be no need for such a campaign, but events
+showed that there's a real need for someone who sends reminders to the mailing
+lists, pings packagers, points out important orphan packages. Waiting for
+things to solve themselves doesn't work :) However, this demands a lot of
+energy and I would be glad if someone could replace me in this task, because I
+lack time to develop Mageia App Db. I volunteered only because there was a gap
+to fulfill, but would be glad to see someone else become the official Orphan
+Packages Protector.
+
+His/her work would be the following:
+- identifiy (with bugsquad's help) the orphan packages that have lots of
+unresolved bugs or are severely outdated,
+- do the same for packages that have a maintainer but are in a similar
+situation,
+- try to find packagers or apprentices to take care of them. Not necessarily
+make them become maintainer, but at least solve users bugs.
+- try to find maintainers for orphan packages.
+
+I'm willing to help with advice or tools but would like to not be the person
+in charge, if possible, so that I can really make the Mageia App Db available
+before Mageia 2.
+
+Does someone volunteer? It is a job that demands a lot of energy and
+confidence, but I think it would be a really useful contribution. Bugsquad is
+already doing part of this, but they have other duties, so someone dedicated
+to this task could maybe help.
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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+ <B>Funda Wang</B>
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+<PRE>2011/12/8 Samuel Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> His/her work would be the following:
+</I>&gt;<i> - identifiy (with bugsquad's help) the orphan packages that have lots of
+</I>&gt;<i> unresolved bugs or are severely outdated,
+</I>&gt;<i> - do the same for packages that have a maintainer but are in a similar
+</I>&gt;<i> situation,
+</I>&gt;<i> - try to find packagers or apprentices to take care of them. Not necessarily
+</I>&gt;<i> make them become maintainer, but at least solve users bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i> - try to find maintainers for orphan packages.
+</I>I would suggest that registering nobody as a mailing list, so that
+every interested packagers could join to help.
+
+Of course, I'll happy doing this work. As what I'm currently doing.
+But I don't have time doing works regarding solving bugs, cause it is
+very difficult to fix bugs belonging to orphan packages.
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>On 08/12/11 10:04, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I consider the (first phase of) the adoption campaign finished, so here are some
+</I>&gt;<i> stats about it, and an opening for discussion about what to do next.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We had 4931 packages without a maintainer, we now have 2043, so I think we can
+</I>&gt;<i> say that the campaign was a success in this regard : nearly 3000 source
+</I>&gt;<i> packages have found a maintainer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/unmaintained.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/unmaintained.txt</A> for the list of orphan
+</I>&gt;<i> packages.
+</I>
+Hi Stormi/list,
+I'm an apprentice of Shlomif and will graduate soon (just waiting for sysadmin
+to give the full rights).
+I will then take over most of the ocaml-related packages (around 40/50ish
+packages). I hope it'll take us under 2000 unmaintained packages.
+Next target 1000 ...
+Best,
+--
+Malo
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+<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later
+</A><A NAME="96">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
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+<LI><A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later
+</A><A NAME="137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later
+</A><A NAME="138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
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+<I>Funda Wang
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+<LI><A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later
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+<I>Malo
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000096.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later
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+<I>Samuel Verschelde
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+ <B>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] Hi!">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com
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+<PRE>I started a report for a small suggestion.
+Anyone is welcome to discuss pro's and con's with this suggestion.
+
+I'd like to see a new shell for RPM-based distros &amp; especially in this
+case Mageia.
+
+No particular reason other that if you're creating a new distro &amp; want
+tit to feel fresh when you install it for the first time you have to
+update &amp; build new things to implement. This could be one of thoose things.
+
+A new shell to replace Dash, perhaps?
+
+If you think my idea is stupid, that's your opinion, but I'd like to see
+the arguments against a new shell.
+
+Here's my report for it anywho: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43</A>
+
+/Kristoffer
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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+<PRE>This is just an introduction email, to get the team started/organised.
+Unlike other teams we are not in a rush, since, well, we still don't
+have any bugs (something you probably won't hear/read ever again :));
+still it's a good idea to start now.
+
+As you can see on the triage page:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage</A> There's now a documentation
+section, it's recommended to read those articles carefully (don't
+worry, it's not as complex as it looks, if you've ever used a bugzilla
+you already know a lot of the information in those articles).
+
+The communications methods will be:
+- The BugSquad Mailing list:
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+- Our own IRC channel #mageia-bugsquad on Freenode.
+
+We're going to hold the BugSquad first meeting on IRC,
+#mageia-bugsquad on Freenode at 20h UTC ('date -u' in terminal on your
+system will show the time in UTC) on Tuesday the 25th of January.
+
+Using IRC is quite simple, use any IRC client from the repos, Quassel,
+Konversation, xchat-gnome, kvirc; most of them are configured to join
+Freenode by default, you just join #mageia-bugsquad channel; easiest
+way is typing this command in the input box (after you connect to
+Freenode):
+
+/join #mageia-bugsquad
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+<PRE>On 3 March 2011 17:22, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 20 January 2011 10:42, Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi. You're receiving this email as you volunteered to be part of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> BugSquad / Triage team for Mageia. First of all welcome to all of you!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is just an introduction email, to get the team started/organised.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unlike other teams we are not in a rush, since, well, we still don't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have any bugs (something you probably won't hear/read ever again :));
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> still it's a good idea to start now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'ven't yet imported all my bugzilla searches from MDV.
+</I>&gt;<i> But you can already share the &quot;last 3 days&quot; search:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=last%203%20days&amp;sharer_id=81mageia">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=last%203%20days&amp;sharer_id=81mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've also set up a rpmdrake one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See you
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+It looks I have to s/81mageia/81/ in the above url, after that it works. :)
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+
+I'ven't yet imported all my bugzilla searches from MDV.
+But you can already share the &quot;last 3 days&quot; search:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=last%203%20days&amp;sharer_id=81mageia">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=last%203%20days&amp;sharer_id=81mageia</A>
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+I've also set up a rpmdrake one.
+
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+
+I'ven't yet imported all my bugzilla searches from MDV.
+But you can already share the &quot;last 3 days&quot; search:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=last%203%20days&amp;sharer_id=81mageia">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=last%203%20days&amp;sharer_id=81mageia</A>
+
+I've also set up a rpmdrake one.
+
+See you
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+
+The username or password you entered is not valid.
+I have requested a new password. It fails too.
+What can I do?
+
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+
+I'ven't yet imported all my bugzilla searches from MDV.
+But you can already share the &quot;last 3 days&quot; search:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=last%203%20days&amp;sharer_id=81mageia">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=last%203%20days&amp;sharer_id=81mageia</A>
+
+I've also set up a rpmdrake one.
+
+See you
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+<PRE>Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 &#224; 14:06 +0100, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Horrible, I was too much in a hurry when I wrote the part about
+</I>&gt;<i> being/not being available for a meeting, sorry :-[
+</I>&gt;<i> It should be:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja *is* available for a meeting saturday and sunday, except saturday
+</I>&gt;<i> between 10.00h UTC and 18.00h UTC
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Op 31-10-11 08:12, Marja van Waes schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Marja isn't available for a meeting saturday and sunday, except
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; saturday between 10.00h UTC and 18.00h UTC
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If you want to join the meeting: please add here what times you're
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; available.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op 28-10-11 18:31, Marja van Waes schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; At this moment, we have four subjects to discuss:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 1. Groups permission, add status ?
+</I>The subject &quot;add status&quot; was alredy discuss with the &quot;TRIAGED&quot; status so
+for me it's on the mageia-dev (a mail was send by stormi)
+
+I can not remember why I have add this &quot;Groups permission&quot; on the wiki.
+Seems it's better to give full power to all people, I don't see at the
+moment what we (triage guys) need more.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2. what to do for unconfirmed bug. (like bug 2081
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081</A>
+</I>Same topic that &quot;add status&quot;.
+If I'm not wrong, there is a status UNCONFIRMED but only accessible (for
+us) after that the bug was closed.
+I will ask dmorgan if he can allow the status transitions new &gt;
+unconfirmed.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 3. bug 1364 &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364</A>&gt; Does it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; irritate most of us, to have to fill out a comment field when
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; closing a bug as duplicate?
+</I>For me there is no problem to add a comment (since I have make a little
+script, but I can't redistribute it for now, too dirty)
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 4. How do we improve the way we communicate with reporters and one
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; another about how much is done (bug 3047
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047</A>&gt; comment 18)
+</I>I think it's better to say what we make, like &quot;bug assigned to
+maintainer&quot;, so same as 3.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; 5.I'd like to add a fifth subject: on the tenth of october, I sent a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; mail to our ml asking who would be willing to help DJ Marian to learn
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to triage. No one replied
+</I>Maybe I can try but I don't know what to said. :)
+Personally I have read bugs@ and ask on irc (French or development
+channel)
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; 6. In the Bug Squad page in our new wiki, I put: Team leaders: Shared
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; responsibility of the team members
+</I>Well if nodody want I can take this great role. (same as council) :D
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; My ideas are:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; # 1 Postpone that subject again
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; # 2 Let the developer of the package decide
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; # 3 It's good to explain why you think it is a duplicate so I think
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 1364 should be closed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; # 4 Make time to communicate. We have more time when we have more
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; triagers: /Idea:/ Explain to all packagers that there are barely any
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; triagers and ask them who is willing to become a member of the bug
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; squad _only for one or more of their own packages_
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; # 5 At this moment, with the work on the new wiki, I don't have time
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; either :(
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If no one else volunteers and if most of us agree, I'm willing to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; become team leader if Manuel is willing to become deputy team leader.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (Yes, Samuel would be a better leader than me, as soon as he's got
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; enough time I'll gladly resign in favour of him :-) )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Please share what you think about these - and maybe more - issues
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Marja
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>
+
+--
+Manuel Hiebel
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+<PRE>Op 03-11-11 20:59, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+
+
+&gt;<i> Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 &#224; 14:06 +0100, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marja *is* available for a meeting saturday and sunday, except saturday
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> between 10.00h UTC and 18.00h UTC
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>We have six subjects to discuss:
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. Groups permission, add status ?
+</I>&gt;<i> The subject &quot;add status&quot; was alredy discuss with the &quot;TRIAGED&quot; status so
+</I>&gt;<i> for me it's on the mageia-dev (a mail was send by stormi)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can not remember why I have add this &quot;Groups permission&quot; on the wiki.
+</I>&gt;<i> Seems it's better to give full power to all people, I don't see at the
+</I>&gt;<i> moment what we (triage guys) need more.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>This is about having a group &quot;BugSquad members&quot; for bugzilla and giving full power to everyone in that group, isn't it?
+
+To be honest, I was very amazed I had the power to close someone else's bugs the minute I started, I don't think new members expect that.
+
+Maybe we could have a &quot;BugSquad novices&quot; group too, with less power.
+Oops, I'd be in that group, now ;)
+
+By the way: who keeps track of who has which permissions on Bugzilla, and of anything that should cause permissions for someone to be changed?
+
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2. what to do for unconfirmed bug. (like bug 2081
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Same topic that &quot;add status&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> If I'm not wrong, there is a status UNCONFIRMED but only accessible (for
+</I>&gt;<i> us) after that the bug was closed.
+</I>&gt;<i> I will ask dmorgan if he can allow the status transitions new&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> unconfirmed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Ah, I misunderstood what you meant.
+
+Somewhere deep down in my memory I seem to recollect that we weren't going to use that status, but if that's right, Samuel will remember :)
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3. bug 1364&lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364</A>&gt; Does it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> irritate most of us, to have to fill out a comment field when
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> closing a bug as duplicate?
+</I>&gt;<i> For me there is no problem to add a comment (since I have make a little
+</I>&gt;<i> script, but I can't redistribute it for now, too dirty)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>That makes three (so far) who don't see a problem, and zero who do :)
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 4. How do we improve the way we communicate with reporters and one
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> another about how much is done (bug 3047
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047</A>&gt; comment 18)
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it's better to say what we make, like &quot;bug assigned to
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainer&quot;, so same as 3.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Yes, we should say or explain what we do :)
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 5.I'd like to add a fifth subject: on the tenth of october, I sent a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mail to our ml asking who would be willing to help DJ Marian to learn
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to triage. No one replied
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe I can try but I don't know what to said. :)
+</I>&gt;<i> Personally I have read bugs@ and ask on irc (French or development
+</I>&gt;<i> channel)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+When I asked that, I didn't know there are so few of us nor that our members are very busy with other things or are novices themselves.
+
+To be honest: had I known, I wouldn't have asked.
+
+
+I'll try to make a &quot;Bug Squad starter&quot; page on the new wiki, and merge what you did with what I did and hopefully add what others did, to learn to triage.
+
+* read bugs
+* read the triage guide over and over again
+* read the bug policy (I had to repeat that, too)
+* ask on irc (# mageia-bugsquad, #mageia or #mageia-dev channel)
+and don't get frightened if no one replies: in that case, everybody is too busy or away and someone will reply later
+* start trying code from the triage guide for yourself, to see what happens
+* learn how to use Sophie
+* look around in upstream Bugzilla's and forums
+* learn how to make even better use of Sophie
+
+There is a lot more documentation than I thought, though, some policies, packagers' pages and -not to forget- QA pages contain very useful information for us. They'll be easier to find in the new wiki :)
+
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 6. In the Bug Squad page in our new wiki, I put: Team leaders: Shared
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> responsibility of the team members
+</I>&gt;<i> Well if nodody want I can take this great role. (same as council) :D
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I vote for you, you're a much better choice than me because you know a lot more and because you have better contacts.
+
+On IRC I understood you approve of my trying to get us to discuss things and have meetings.
+
+If that's correct and if you want me to keep doing that, I'd like to be deputy leader, so that no one will think: &quot;who does she think she is, trying to get us together for a meeting?&quot;
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> My ideas are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # 1 Postpone that subject again
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # 2 Let the developer of the package decide
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # 3 It's good to explain why you think it is a duplicate so I think
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1364 should be closed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # 4 Make time to communicate. We have more time when we have more
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> triagers: /Idea:/ Explain to all packagers that there are barely any
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> triagers and ask them who is willing to become a member of the bug
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> squad _only for one or more of their own packages_
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # 5 At this moment, with the work on the new wiki, I don't have time
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> either :(
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If no one else volunteers and if most of us agree, I'm willing to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> become team leader if Manuel is willing to become deputy team leader.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (Yes, Samuel would be a better leader than me, as soon as he's got
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> enough time I'll gladly resign in favour of him :-) )
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please share what you think about these - and maybe more - issues
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Remco Rijnders</B>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 02:29:24PM +0100, Marja wrote in
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3. bug 1364&lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364</A>&gt; Does it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> irritate most of us, to have to fill out a comment field when
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> closing a bug as duplicate?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>For me there is no problem to add a comment (since I have make a little
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>script, but I can't redistribute it for now, too dirty)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>That makes three (so far) who don't see a problem, and zero who do :)
+</I>
+Irritate is a big word. But yeah, can't we just change the default &quot;***
+This report has been marked a duplicate of # ***&quot; to something including
+the words &quot;Thank you for your report.&quot; ?
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>5.I'd like to add a fifth subject: on the tenth of october, I sent a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>mail to our ml asking who would be willing to help DJ Marian to learn
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>to triage. No one replied
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>Maybe I can try but I don't know what to said. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>Personally I have read bugs@ and ask on irc (French or development
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>channel)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>When I asked that, I didn't know there are so few of us nor that our members are very busy with other things or are novices themselves.
+</I>
+The best way to get started is to get started. The guide provides (IMHO)
+enough useful guidelines to do so. In case of doubts or concerns, we have
+this list or IRC.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+Op 04-11-11 14:29, Marja van Waes schreef:
+&gt;<i> Op 03-11-11 20:59, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 &#224; 14:06 +0100, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Marja *is* available for a meeting saturday and sunday, except saturday
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> between 10.00h UTC and 18.00h UTC
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have six subjects to discuss:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. Groups permission, add status ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The subject &quot;add status&quot; was alredy discuss with the &quot;TRIAGED&quot; status so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for me it's on the mageia-dev (a mail was send by stormi)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can not remember why I have add this &quot;Groups permission&quot; on the wiki.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Seems it's better to give full power to all people, I don't see at the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> moment what we (triage guys) need more.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is about having a group &quot;BugSquad members&quot; for bugzilla and
+</I>&gt;<i> giving full power to everyone in that group, isn't it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To be honest, I was very amazed I had the power to close someone
+</I>&gt;<i> else's bugs the minute I started, I don't think new members expect that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe we could have a &quot;BugSquad novices&quot; group too, with less power.
+</I>&gt;<i> Oops, I'd be in that group, now ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> By the way: who keeps track of who has which permissions on Bugzilla,
+</I>&gt;<i> and of anything that should cause permissions for someone to be changed?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2. what to do for unconfirmed bug. (like bug 2081
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Same topic that &quot;add status&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If I'm not wrong, there is a status UNCONFIRMED but only accessible (for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> us) after that the bug was closed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I will ask dmorgan if he can allow the status transitions new&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> unconfirmed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah, I misunderstood what you meant.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Somewhere deep down in my memory I seem to recollect that we weren't
+</I>&gt;<i> going to use that status, but if that's right, Samuel will remember :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3. bug 1364&lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364</A>&gt; Does it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> irritate most of us, to have to fill out a comment field when
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> closing a bug as duplicate?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For me there is no problem to add a comment (since I have make a little
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> script, but I can't redistribute it for now, too dirty)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That makes three (so far) who don't see a problem, and zero who do :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Op 05-11-11 11:30, Remco Rijnders schreef:
+
+Irritate is a big word. But yeah, can't we just change the default &quot;***
+This report has been marked a duplicate of # ***&quot; to something including
+the words &quot;Thank you for your report.&quot; ?
+
+
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 4. How do we improve the way we communicate with reporters and one
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> another about how much is done (bug 3047
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047</A>&gt; comment 18)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think it's better to say what we make, like &quot;bug assigned to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maintainer&quot;, so same as 3.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, we should say or explain what we do :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 5.I'd like to add a fifth subject: on the tenth of october, I sent a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mail to our ml asking who would be willing to help DJ Marian to learn
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to triage. No one replied
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe I can try but I don't know what to said. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Personally I have read bugs@ and ask on irc (French or development
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> channel)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When I asked that, I didn't know there are so few of us nor that our
+</I>&gt;<i> members are very busy with other things or are novices themselves.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To be honest: had I known, I wouldn't have asked.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>The best way to get started is to get started. The guide provides (IMHO)
+enough useful guidelines to do so. In case of doubts or concerns, we
+have this list or IRC.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Remmy
+
+&gt;<i> I'll try to make a &quot;Bug Squad starter&quot; page on the new wiki, and merge
+</I>&gt;<i> what you did with what I did and hopefully add what others did, to
+</I>&gt;<i> learn to triage.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * read bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> * read the triage guide over and over again
+</I>&gt;<i> * read the bug policy (I had to repeat that, too)
+</I>&gt;<i> * ask on irc (# mageia-bugsquad, #mageia or #mageia-dev channel)
+</I>&gt;<i> and don't get frightened if no one replies: in that case, everybody is
+</I>&gt;<i> too busy or away and someone will reply later
+</I>&gt;<i> * start trying code from the triage guide for yourself, to see what
+</I>&gt;<i> happens
+</I>&gt;<i> * learn how to use Sophie
+</I>&gt;<i> * look around in upstream Bugzilla's and forums
+</I>&gt;<i> * learn how to make even better use of Sophie
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is a lot more documentation than I thought, though, some
+</I>&gt;<i> policies, packagers' pages and -not to forget- QA pages contain very
+</I>&gt;<i> useful information for us. They'll be easier to find in the new wiki :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 6. In the Bug Squad page in our new wiki, I put: Team leaders: Shared
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> responsibility of the team members
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well if nodody want I can take this great role. (same as council) :D
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I vote for you, you're a much better choice than me because you know a
+</I>&gt;<i> lot more and because you have better contacts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On IRC I understood you approve of my trying to get us to discuss
+</I>&gt;<i> things and have meetings.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If that's correct and if you want me to keep doing that, I'd like to
+</I>&gt;<i> be deputy leader, so that no one will think: &quot;who does she think she
+</I>&gt;<i> is, trying to get us together for a meeting?&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> My ideas are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # 1 Postpone that subject again
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # 2 Let the developer of the package decide
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # 3 It's good to explain why you think it is a duplicate so I think
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1364 should be closed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # 4 Make time to communicate. We have more time when we have more
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> triagers: /Idea:/ Explain to all packagers that there are barely any
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> triagers and ask them who is willing to become a member of the bug
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> squad _only for one or more of their own packages_
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # 5 At this moment, with the work on the new wiki, I don't have time
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> either :(
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If no one else volunteers and if most of us agree, I'm willing to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> become team leader if Manuel is willing to become deputy team leader.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (Yes, Samuel would be a better leader than me, as soon as he's got
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> enough time I'll gladly resign in favour of him :-) )
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please share what you think about these - and maybe more - issues
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>*If you received a mail about signing up for the Bug Squad mailing list
+this morning, I bcc you now.*
+
+
+Hi everyone,
+
+Some time ago on this ml, I tried to find someone who was willing to
+look at bugs together with an inexperienced Bug Squad member.
+
+If, at that time, I would have known that the few members we have, are
+extremely busy (e.g. in other teams) or inexperienced themselves, I
+would never have asked this.
+
+In the meeting yesterday, it was acknowledged that we can't teach new
+Bug Squad members, all we can do is encourage them to do what we did
+ourselves and what helped us to start triaging, like the things on the
+list below. This list will go into a &quot;How to start triaging&quot; in our new
+wiki, anyone who wants to improve it is welcome to do so:
+
+* read bug reports, see how they were handled
+* study the triage guide <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage_guide">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage_guide</A>
+* study the bug policy <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy</A>
+* ask on irc (# mageia-bugsquad, #mageia or #mageia-dev channel) if you
+need to know something and don't get frightened if no one replies: in
+that case, everybody is too busy or away and someone will reply later
+(for you to see the reply, it helps when you stay logged in ;) )
+* start trying code etc. from the triage guide for yourself (when and
+where appropriate), to see what happens
+* learn how to use Sophie <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=irc#sophie">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=irc#sophie</A>
+* look around in upstream Bugzilla's and forums
+* feel free to ask questions in this (the mageia-bugsquad) mailing list
+* just start triaging and learn from your mistakes
+
+So: inexperienced Bug Squad members: please give it a go
+And: experienced Bug Squad members: please continue to give a little
+guidance (like giving feedback when a mistake was made) in the moments
+you find time to do so
+
+Regards,
+Marja
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+Since yesterday's meeting, Manuel is not only our Team council
+representative (that suggested his leadership), but formally our leader
+as well :-D
+
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-bugsquad/2011/mageia-bugsquad.2011-11-05-19.08.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-bugsquad/2011/mageia-bugsquad.2011-11-05-19.08.html</A>
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+Regards,
+Marja
+
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+<PRE>2011/11/6 Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since yesterday's meeting, Manuel is not only our Team council
+</I>&gt;<i> representative (that suggested his leadership), but formally our leader as
+</I>&gt;<i> well :-D
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/**mageia-bugsquad/2011/mageia-**">http://meetbot.mageia.org/**mageia-bugsquad/2011/mageia-**</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> bugsquad.2011-11-05-19.08.html&lt;<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-bugsquad/2011/mageia-bugsquad.2011-11-05-19.08.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-bugsquad/2011/mageia-bugsquad.2011-11-05-19.08.html</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Congratulations :D
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+<PRE>Hello, I forward you the mail of Olivier.
+
+Feedback, improvement of the bugsquad page, are welcome. Thanks to Marja
+for the big work!
+You can also add you preferred meeting time, so maybe we can be more
+than 4 in the same time.
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad#Preferred_meeting_time">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad#Preferred_meeting_time</A>
+
+Thanks,
+
+(You can also have a look to my quick greasemonkey script
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3270#c6">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3270#c6</A> )
+
+-------- Message transf&#233;r&#233; --------
+&gt;<i> De: Oliver Burger &lt;oliver.bgr@
+</I>&gt;<i> Sujet: [Mageia-dev] New wiki finally online
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:34:43 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After quite some work in the last weeks the new wiki is finally available!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Check it out at <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org">https://wiki.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Until now only the English wiki is online, other will follow soon.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We did import all (or most) of the contents from the old wiki and tried to
+</I>&gt;<i> bring some structure into it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As you can see, there is almost no documentation for the end user till now but
+</I>&gt;<i> the documentation team will start changing that.
+</I>&gt;<i> If you would like to help us on that, just join the doc team in its meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> tommorow at 19.00 UTC in #mageia-doc on the Freenode irc netwoork.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And please have a look at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Wiki_and_Documentation#Page_naming">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Wiki_and_Documentation#Page_naming</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> before starting to create pages on the new wiki.
+</I>&gt;<i> We do want to keep some kind of order in it...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ee also the blog post about it on <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
+--
+Manuel Hiebel
+
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+<PRE>Op 15-11-11 00:28, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+&gt;<i> Hello, I forward you the mail of Olivier.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Feedback, improvement of the bugsquad page, are welcome. Thanks to Marja
+</I>&gt;<i> for the big work!
+</I>&gt;<i> You can also add you preferred meeting time, so maybe we can be more
+</I>&gt;<i> than 4 in the same time.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad#Preferred_meeting_time">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad#Preferred_meeting_time</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (You can also have a look to my quick greasemonkey script
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3270#c6">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3270#c6</A> )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thx, Manuel :-)
+
+I started adding a line to the meeting time table, but I stopped because
+the table doesn't say those times are UTC, are they?
+
+And thanks for sharing the script with everyone on the Squad, now, I'll
+look at the new version later today.
+
+Reagards,
+Marja
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+&gt;<i> Op 15-11-11 00:28, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello, I forward you the mail of Olivier.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Feedback, improvement of the bugsquad page, are welcome. Thanks to Marja
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for the big work!
+</I>
+And thanks to you for the tools you added :-)
+&gt;&gt;<i> You can also add you preferred meeting time, so maybe we can be more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> than 4 in the same time.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad#Preferred_meeting_time">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad#Preferred_meeting_time</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thx, Manuel :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>It is hard, to fill out the times I can, because that depends on which
+day of the week or weekend it is, too. And even then things change:
+
+Until this week I had to be in office (for work that can't be done at
+home) some hours on monday morning and some hours on tuesday afternoon.
+Tuesday afternoon might or might not be moved to wednesday morning, or
+to every other wednesday morning and every other someother morning. On
+saturday my rowing times are changing.
+
+I used &quot;H&quot; for 50% or more chance that I'll be able to join a meeting at
+a given time. I'll change that into &quot;5&quot; for &#177; 50%, 9 for &#177; 90% chance,
+&quot;1&quot; for &#177;10 % chance etc.
+
+
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+As announced on the doc discuss ml this morning, there is now a wiki
+page that gives an overview of the bugs that have something to do with
+documentation.
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation_bugs">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation_bugs</A>
+
+There are two tables, now:
+1 one for bugs that can only be solved by making documentation or
+improving it
+2 one for bugs that need to be documented when they don't get fixed
+
+
+* The most urgent of these bugs, is the one about missing help in
+installer <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1016">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1016</A>
+
+** Other issues that could use a good help in installer have been added,
+
+* Installer issues that, when they are _not_ solved, should be mentioned
+in the help or in release notes or errata, were added too, they are in
+the second table. Of course first of all we need to find out whether or
+not these bugs will be fixed, first.
+
+* Least important, for now, are bugs that have nothing to do with using
+live cd's or installing Mageia.
+
+It is very well possible that some bugs were forgotton, feel free to add
+the ones you know about.
+
+Also, the page isn't &quot;good&quot; yet, it should maybe contain the summary's
+of the mentioned bugs and where the new documentation about a certain
+issue should go (e.g. in the installer help, in a How_to_install_mageia
+for endusers in our wiki, in both?, etc.)
+
+Feel free to improve.
+
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+
+
+
+
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+
+-------- Originele bericht --------
+Onderwerp: Re: [doc-discuss] Bugs related to (missing) documentation
+Datum: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:42:22 +0100
+Van: Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+Antwoord-naar: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">doc-discuss at ml.mageia.org</A>
+Aan: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">doc-discuss at ml.mageia.org</A>
+
+
+
+2011/11/16 Marja van Waes&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As announced on the doc discuss ml this morning, there is now a wiki page
+</I>&gt;<i> that gives an overview of the bugs that have something to do with
+</I>&gt;<i> documentation.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation_bugs">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Documentation_bugs</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are two tables, now:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1 one for bugs that can only be solved by making documentation or improving
+</I>&gt;<i> it
+</I>&gt;<i> 2 one for bugs that need to be documented when they don't get fixed
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * The most urgent of these bugs, is the one about missing help in installer
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1016">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1016</A>
+</I>
+As Anne wrote in the bug report:
+&quot;No it's just not possible. Help is provided by documentation. We cannot reuse
+Mandriva documentation because of license. It will ask weeks of work to get
+proper one, which should happen for Mageia2.&quot;
+
+Meaning:
+ - either help texts for each screen must be compiled new, translated
+and integrated
+ - or an older version of the official Mandriva documentation could be
+&quot;canibalized&quot; for these texts.
+(to the best of my knowledge older versions are free, and most of the
+installer documentation can be used because the installer did not
+change much in the last 2 years)
+
+--
+wobo
+
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+ <I>Tue Nov 22 23:04:28 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 22 November 2011 21:52, Mageia Team &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> tv &lt;tv&gt; 13.70-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 171045
+</I>&gt;<i> - drakbug:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;o report the gtk+ theme in use (#3127) which explain some crashes (eg: #2679)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;o include better C traces in reports
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;o remove top of traces that is inside bug handler from report
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;o no more run GDB (too late &amp; faster)
+</I>
+While auto reporting crashes was good for pure crashes, we
+never were able to get useful traces for segfaults
+
+So please test
+
+I'm considering backporting this into mga1 in order to
+get better bug reports when something crashes.
+This should really help the triage team
+(as well as developers who will get better bug reports)
+
+See bug #2679 for example:&#160;the usual useless stack which
+(due to the reporter reproducing it from within GDB) turned
+out to be a theme bug.
+
+So please do test
+BTW 13.70.1 provides minor enhancements on top of that
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+&gt;&gt;<i> FOSDEM is calling! (4-5 February, in Brussels, Belgium)
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a call for any and all Mageia people - ideally it would be great
+</I>&gt;<i> to have people from the whole community, whether you're in a team or
+</I>&gt;<i> not. One of the main reasons to have a stand is to promote Mageia,
+</I>&gt;<i> as well as to encourage people to join *all* our teams - devs, artwork,
+</I>&gt;<i> bugsquad, QA, marcom - you name it. The more the merrier!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hope to see you there!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I><A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2012">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2012</A>
+
+Sending this message to the mageia-bugsquad ml now. Shouldn't it be sent
+to more ml's ?
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20New%20development%20cycle%2C%20you%20can%20help.&In-Reply-To=%3C1322249481.12979.25.camel%40vosdook%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] New development cycle, you can help.">manuel at hiebel.eu
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+ <I>Fri Nov 25 20:31:21 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hello, today was released the alpha 1 of Mageia 2 ###(planned for May),
+so I guess we will have a lots of new bugs.
+
+You don't have time to read bugs@ ? don't go away you can help !
+You can use rss, saved-search, your own ml:
+
+1. Use the saved search (and rss)
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=saved-searches">https://bugs.mageia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=saved-searches</A>
+
+Most useful of them (for me) is for the bugs of the day:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=new%20bugs%20of%20the%20day&amp;sharer_id=22">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=new%20bugs%20of%20the%20day&amp;sharer_id=22</A>
+
+and the feed:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?chfield=%5BBug%20creation%">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?chfield=%5BBug%20creation%</A>
+5D&amp;chfieldfrom=0d&amp;chfieldto=Now&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;title=Bug%20List:%
+20new%20bugs%20of%20the%20day&amp;ctype=atom
+
+Or for rpms (here the installer):
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=installer&amp;sharer_id=81">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=installer&amp;sharer_id=81</A>
+
+feel free to use your own make saved-search
+
+2. Make your own ml
+Go on <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email#new_watched_by_you">https://bugs.mageia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email#new_watched_by_you</A>
+add bugsquad_at_mageia_dot_org
+add then choice what you want receive.
+
+You can also add filters on your mail client with the header of the
+bugzilla. (like X-Bugzilla-Component: RPM Packages, and a lot of other)
+
+Feel free to ask if something is not clear, and share if you have other
+ideas.
+
+Thanks to all !
+--
+Manuel Hiebel
+<A HREF="http://netiquette.fr/">http://netiquette.fr/</A>
+
+
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] New development cycle, you can help.">manuel at hiebel.eu
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+ <I>Fri Nov 25 20:50:16 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 25 novembre 2011 &#224; 20:31 +0100, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello, today was released the alpha 1 of Mageia 2 ###(planned for May),
+</I>&gt;<i> so I guess we will have a lots of new bugs.
+</I>
+Sorry I was too fast, the mail should have gone to the folder of draft
+instead of the shipments
+
+&gt;<i> Thanks to all !
+</I>--
+Manuel Hiebel
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Fwd%3A%20%5BFOSDEM%5D%20Call%20for%0A%20stands%2C%20devroom%20talks%20and%20lightning%20talks&In-Reply-To=%3CCANa9xwuro%3Drj6AMywyeK_6kKFAE%2B2BwN9N%2Bq2f_y%2B0%3DOsDdZ6A%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 09:14, Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2012">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2012</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sending this message to the mageia-bugsquad ml now. Shouldn't it be sent to
+</I>&gt;<i> more ml's ?
+</I>
+I'd expect most people to be subscribed at least to -discuss, or
+others to spread the info, so please do. I'll prepare a blog post as
+well.
+
+Romain
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Nov 3 20:59:26 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Nov 25 20:50:16 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 17<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Finally an official Bug Squad leader: Manuel
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki, and meeting time
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] New development cycle, you can help.
+</A><A NAME="94">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] New development cycle, you can help.
+</A><A NAME="95">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release drakxtools-13.70-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="92">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Teaching inexperienced Bug Squad members
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Finally an official Bug Squad leader: Manuel
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki, and meeting time
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki, and meeting time
+</A><A NAME="89">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugs related to (missing) documentation
+</A><A NAME="90">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Fwd: Re: [doc-discuss] Bugs related to (missing) documentation
+</A><A NAME="91">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-discuss] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for stands, devroom talks and lightning talks
+</A><A NAME="93">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-discuss] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for stands, devroom talks and lightning talks
+</A><A NAME="136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Nov 25 20:50:16 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:23:47 CEST 2012</i>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Nov 3 20:59:26 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Nov 25 20:50:16 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 17<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Teaching inexperienced Bug Squad members
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Finally an official Bug Squad leader: Manuel
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Finally an official Bug Squad leader: Manuel
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki, and meeting time
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki, and meeting time
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki, and meeting time
+</A><A NAME="89">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugs related to (missing) documentation
+</A><A NAME="90">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Fwd: Re: [doc-discuss] Bugs related to (missing) documentation
+</A><A NAME="91">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release drakxtools-13.70-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="92">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-discuss] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for stands, devroom talks and lightning talks
+</A><A NAME="93">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-discuss] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for stands, devroom talks and lightning talks
+</A><A NAME="136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] New development cycle, you can help.
+</A><A NAME="94">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] New development cycle, you can help.
+</A><A NAME="95">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Nov 25 20:50:16 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:23:47 CEST 2012</i>
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+ <h1>November 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Nov 3 20:59:26 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Nov 25 20:50:16 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 17<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release drakxtools-13.70-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="92">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-discuss] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for stands, devroom talks and lightning talks
+</A><A NAME="93">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-discuss] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for stands, devroom talks and lightning talks
+</A><A NAME="136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugs related to (missing) documentation
+</A><A NAME="90">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Finally an official Bug Squad leader: Manuel
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Finally an official Bug Squad leader: Manuel
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Fwd: Re: [doc-discuss] Bugs related to (missing) documentation
+</A><A NAME="91">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] New development cycle, you can help.
+</A><A NAME="94">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] New development cycle, you can help.
+</A><A NAME="95">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Teaching inexperienced Bug Squad members
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki, and meeting time
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki, and meeting time
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki, and meeting time
+</A><A NAME="89">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Nov 25 20:50:16 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:23:47 CEST 2012</i>
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+ <h1>November 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Nov 3 20:59:26 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Nov 25 20:50:16 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 17<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01320350366- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01320350366-01320413364- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01320350366-01320413364-01320489009- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01320350366-01320413364-01320516551- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01320568118- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Teaching inexperienced Bug Squad members
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01320568975- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Finally an official Bug Squad leader: Manuel
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01320568975-01320572426- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Finally an official Bug Squad leader: Manuel
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01321313286- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki, and meeting time
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01321313286-01321336995- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki, and meeting time
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01321313286-01321336995-01321340497- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000089.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki, and meeting time
+</A><A NAME="89">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01321457588- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000090.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugs related to (missing) documentation
+</A><A NAME="90">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01321463225- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000091.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Fwd: Re: [doc-discuss] Bugs related to (missing) documentation
+</A><A NAME="91">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01321999468- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000092.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release drakxtools-13.70-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="92">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01322122481- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000093.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-discuss] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for stands, devroom talks and lightning talks
+</A><A NAME="93">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01322122481-01322138821- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000136.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-discuss] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for stands, devroom talks and lightning talks
+</A><A NAME="136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01322249481- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000094.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] New development cycle, you can help.
+</A><A NAME="94">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01322249481-01322250616- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000095.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] New development cycle, you can help.
+</A><A NAME="95">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Nov 25 20:50:16 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:23:47 CEST 2012</i>
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+<PRE>Le samedi 24 septembre 2011 &#224; 16:45 +0200, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>So this our final structure, thanks to Marga for the great work :)
+<A HREF="http://titanpad.com/gNn4shxgrY">http://titanpad.com/gNn4shxgrY</A>
+
+Something missing, any comment ?
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 12:55:19, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le samedi 24 septembre 2011 &#224; 16:45 +0200, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So this our final structure, thanks to Marga for the great work :)
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://titanpad.com/gNn4shxgrY">http://titanpad.com/gNn4shxgrY</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Something missing, any comment ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>
+
+There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what happens to bugs
+once they have been triaged?
+Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been assigned to
+a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's work (try to contact
+the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask information again when the report
+hasn't answered yet, produce reports to monitor open bugs, then send feedback
+to the developers mailing list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where
+this fits in the proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports management
+goes farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+
+Part of this job could be done jointly with QA (reports, etc.).
+
+(and that's why I think the team name is better as bugteam than triage team).
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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+<PRE>Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 12:55:19, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le samedi 24 septembre 2011 &#224; 16:45 +0200, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So this our final structure, thanks to Marga for the great work :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://titanpad.com/gNn4shxgrY">http://titanpad.com/gNn4shxgrY</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Something missing, any comment ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what happens to bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> once they have been triaged?
+</I>&gt;<i> Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been assigned to
+</I>&gt;<i> a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's work (try to contact
+</I>&gt;<i> the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask information again when the report
+</I>&gt;<i> hasn't answered yet, produce reports to monitor open bugs, then send feedback
+</I>&gt;<i> to the developers mailing list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where
+</I>&gt;<i> this fits in the proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports management
+</I>&gt;<i> goes farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Part of this job could be done jointly with QA (reports, etc.).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (and that's why I think the team name is better as bugteam than triage team).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+My reply is to the best of my knowledge, but please check with some one
+who has been around a lot longer than I !!
+
+According to the old wiki:
+The Bug Squad is a group of volunteer members of the Mageia community
+who help with bug-related tasks, including triage, maintenance and
+monitoring. Bug Squad members make up the triage team, whose job - as
+outlined in the Bug Policy
+&lt;<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy</A>&gt; - is to filter all
+bug reports in order to ensure that only valid, complete reports are
+sent to the development team for action, and to help reporters to file
+complete reports. Bug Squad members also help to clean up old issues in
+the Bugzilla database.
+
+So we are supposed to clean up old issues. And AFAIK the team has
+already done more than that, like report on how many bugs couldn't be
+assigned because of missing maintainers. So I guess the team is already
+more a bug team than a triage team.
+
+Well, if everyone agrees that this is part of our job, we need to make a
+page on Bug report management, too ;)
+
+Personally, I don't like the name &quot;Triage Team&quot; and if I understood
+right, Manuel doesn't like the name Bug Squad (please confirm or
+disconfirm, Manuel)
+
+I think Bug Squad is funny, but I like Bug Team more.
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+
+
+
+
+
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+<PRE>Op 02-10-11 17:35, Marja van Waes schreef:
+&gt;<i> Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 12:55:19, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le samedi 24 septembre 2011 &#224; 16:45 +0200, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So this our final structure, thanks to Marga for the great work :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://titanpad.com/gNn4shxgrY">http://titanpad.com/gNn4shxgrY</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Something missing, any comment ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> happens to bugs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> once they have been triaged?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> assigned to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's work (try to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> contact
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask information again when the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> report
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hasn't answered yet, produce reports to monitor open bugs, then send
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> feedback
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to the developers mailing list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> yet where
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this fits in the proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> management
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> goes farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Part of this job could be done jointly with QA (reports, etc.).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (and that's why I think the team name is better as bugteam than
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> triage team).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, if everyone agrees that this is part of our job, we need to make
+</I>&gt;<i> a page on Bug report management, too ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>What about the Bug housekeeping page, isn't that meant for Bug report
+management, too? If other teams are going to have housekeeping pages,
+we shouldn't call ours report management
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 02 octobre 2011 &#224; 17:35 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what happens to bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; once they have been triaged?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been assigned to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's work (try to contact
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask information again when the report
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hasn't answered yet, produce reports to monitor open bugs, then send feedback
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to the developers mailing list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this fits in the proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports management
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; goes farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+</I>Well, we must keep the bugzilla working. For example, after an update in
+mageia 1, sometimes the maintainer forget to reassign the bug to QA.
+
+I was planned to send weekly bug news, but I must better organise my
+free time. :)
+(And now, as we have maintenairs, this is less important. I think)
+
+For the other part I don't know.
+(I'am also a new bug man)
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Part of this job could be done jointly with QA (reports, etc.).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (and that's why I think the team name is better as bugteam than triage team).
+</I>agree
+&gt;<i> &gt; Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Samuel Verschelde
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My reply is to the best of my knowledge, but please check with some one
+</I>&gt;<i> who has been around a lot longer than I !!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> According to the old wiki:
+</I>&gt;<i> The Bug Squad is a group of volunteer members of the Mageia community
+</I>&gt;<i> who help with bug-related tasks, including triage, maintenance and
+</I>&gt;<i> monitoring. Bug Squad members make up the triage team, whose job - as
+</I>&gt;<i> outlined in the Bug Policy
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy</A>&gt; - is to filter all
+</I>&gt;<i> bug reports in order to ensure that only valid, complete reports are
+</I>&gt;<i> sent to the development team for action, and to help reporters to file
+</I>&gt;<i> complete reports. Bug Squad members also help to clean up old issues in
+</I>&gt;<i> the Bugzilla database.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So we are supposed to clean up old issues. And AFAIK the team has
+</I>&gt;<i> already done more than that, like report on how many bugs couldn't be
+</I>&gt;<i> assigned because of missing maintainers. So I guess the team is already
+</I>&gt;<i> more a bug team than a triage team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, if everyone agrees that this is part of our job, we need to make a
+</I>&gt;<i> page on Bug report management, too ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Personally, I don't like the name &quot;Triage Team&quot; and if I understood
+</I>&gt;<i> right, Manuel doesn't like the name Bug Squad (please confirm or
+</I>&gt;<i> disconfirm, Manuel)
+</I>Yes sorry I was confuse, I like more 'bugsquad' than 'triage team'
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think Bug Squad is funny, but I like Bug Team more.
+</I>Yep why not.
+
+&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 21:25:08, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 02 octobre 2011 &#224; 17:35 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what happens
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; to bugs once they have been triaged?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; assigned to a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; work (try to contact the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; information again when the report hasn't answered yet, produce reports
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; to monitor open bugs, then send feedback to the developers mailing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where this fits in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports management goes
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, we must keep the bugzilla working. For example, after an update in
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia 1, sometimes the maintainer forget to reassign the bug to QA.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was planned to send weekly bug news, but I must better organise my
+</I>&gt;<i> free time. :)
+</I>&gt;<i> (And now, as we have maintenairs, this is less important. I think)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the other part I don't know.
+</I>&gt;<i> (I'am also a new bug man)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Also, to be written somewhere, was never done in Mandriva but in my opinion
+*must* be done in Mageia, is set the &quot;cauldron&quot; version to &quot;Mageia 2&quot; the day
+it is released.
+
+There are mass modification functionalities in bugzilla that should allow to do
+that.
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel
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+<PRE>Op 02-10-11 21:29, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 21:25:08, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 02 octobre 2011 &#224; 17:35 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what happens
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to bugs once they have been triaged?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> assigned to a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> work (try to contact the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> information again when the report hasn't answered yet, produce reports
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to monitor open bugs, then send feedback to the developers mailing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where this fits in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports management goes
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, we must keep the bugzilla working. For example, after an update in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia 1, sometimes the maintainer forget to reassign the bug to QA.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was planned to send weekly bug news, but I must better organise my
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> free time. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (And now, as we have maintenairs, this is less important. I think)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For the other part I don't know.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (I'am also a new bug man)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, to be written somewhere, was never done in Mandriva but in my opinion
+</I>&gt;<i> *must* be done in Mageia, is set the &quot;cauldron&quot; version to &quot;Mageia 2&quot; the day
+</I>&gt;<i> it is released.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Do you mind explaining? I see various interpretations of this sentence.
+
+
+Is it maybe an idea to have a to do list, somewhere, with deadlines
+where needed? I can add a Bug Squad to do list to the new wiki structure
+:<i>-)
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> There are mass modification functionalities in bugzilla that should allow to do
+</I>&gt;<i> that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
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+<PRE>Sending again, I chose the wrong identity to send it
+
+
+Op 02-10-11 21:25, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 02 octobre 2011 &#224; 17:35 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes sorry I was confuse, I like more 'bugsquad' than 'triage team'
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think Bug Squad is funny, but I like Bug Team more.
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep why not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>To be honest, I thought the name Bug Squad was fine until I read that
+you didn't like the name. :-[ When I read that, the name didn't feel
+so good anymore, so that is why I started to like the name Bug Team more.
+Now that I read you actually wanted to write the opposite, my positive
+feelings about the name &quot;Bug Squad&quot; are coming back.
+
+Yes, I'm crazy ;-)
+
+So now I think it's a nice name and people are more likely to want to
+join a Bug Squad than a Bug Team :-D
+
+
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Op 02-10-11 21:29, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 21:25:08, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Le dimanche 02 octobre 2011 &#224; 17:35 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what happens
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to bugs once they have been triaged?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; assigned to a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; work (try to contact the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; information again when the report hasn't answered yet, produce reports
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to monitor open bugs, then send feedback to the developers mailing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where this fits in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports management goes
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Well, we must keep the bugzilla working. For example, after an update in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; mageia 1, sometimes the maintainer forget to reassign the bug to QA.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I was planned to send weekly bug news, but I must better organise my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; free time. :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (And now, as we have maintenairs, this is less important. I think)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; For the other part I don't know.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (I'am also a new bug man)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Also, to be written somewhere, was never done in Mandriva but in my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; opinion *must* be done in Mageia, is set the &quot;cauldron&quot; version to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;Mageia 2&quot; the day it is released.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you mind explaining? I see various interpretations of this sentence.
+</I>
+A bug reported against cauldron and still valid becomes a bug reported against
+Mageia 2. If we don't change the Version field from cauldron to Mageia 2, we
+risk having some bugs fixed only in cauldron without an update being issued in
+Mageia 2.
+
+Samuel
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+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 22:24:10, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op 02-10-11 21:29, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 21:25:08, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 02 octobre 2011 &#224; 17:35 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what happens
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to bugs once they have been triaged?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> assigned to a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> work (try to contact the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> information again when the report hasn't answered yet, produce reports
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to monitor open bugs, then send feedback to the developers mailing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where this fits in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports management goes
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Well, we must keep the bugzilla working. For example, after an update in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mageia 1, sometimes the maintainer forget to reassign the bug to QA.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I was planned to send weekly bug news, but I must better organise my
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> free time. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (And now, as we have maintenairs, this is less important. I think)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For the other part I don't know.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (I'am also a new bug man)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Also, to be written somewhere, was never done in Mandriva but in my
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> opinion *must* be done in Mageia, is set the &quot;cauldron&quot; version to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia 2&quot; the day it is released.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do you mind explaining? I see various interpretations of this sentence.
+</I>&gt;<i> A bug reported against cauldron and still valid becomes a bug reported against
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2. If we don't change the Version field from cauldron to Mageia 2, we
+</I>&gt;<i> risk having some bugs fixed only in cauldron without an update being issued in
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>And copying it, so that there is the same report against cauldron as
+against Mageia 2? Bugs on different releases should go into seperate Bug
+reports, according to our manual. The Mageia 2 one is then set to depend
+on the cauldron one, and the cauldron one is set to block the mageia 2
+one (because a patch is, of course, going to be tested in Cauldron first)
+
+
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 22:38:45, vous avez &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op 02-10-11 22:28, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 22:24:10, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Op 02-10-11 21:29, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 21:25:08, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Le dimanche 02 octobre 2011 &#224; 17:35 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; happens to bugs once they have been triaged?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; assigned to a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; work (try to contact the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; information again when the report hasn't answered yet, produce
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; reports to monitor open bugs, then send feedback to the developers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; mailing list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; fits in the proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; management goes farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Well, we must keep the bugzilla working. For example, after an update
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in mageia 1, sometimes the maintainer forget to reassign the bug to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; QA.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I was planned to send weekly bug news, but I must better organise my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; free time. :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (And now, as we have maintenairs, this is less important. I think)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; For the other part I don't know.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (I'am also a new bug man)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Also, to be written somewhere, was never done in Mandriva but in my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; opinion *must* be done in Mageia, is set the &quot;cauldron&quot; version to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Mageia 2&quot; the day it is released.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Do you mind explaining? I see various interpretations of this sentence.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; A bug reported against cauldron and still valid becomes a bug reported
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; against Mageia 2. If we don't change the Version field from cauldron to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia 2, we risk having some bugs fixed only in cauldron without an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; update being issued in Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And copying it, so that there is the same report against cauldron as
+</I>&gt;<i> against Mageia 2?
+</I>
+Maybe. It could be a lot of work to maintain 2 versions of the same bug
+report.
+
+&gt;<i> Bugs on different releases should go into seperate Bug
+</I>&gt;<i> reports, according to our manual. The Mageia 2 one is then set to depend
+</I>&gt;<i> on the cauldron one, and the cauldron one is set to block the mageia 2
+</I>&gt;<i> one (because a patch is, of course, going to be tested in Cauldron first)
+</I>
+I'm not sure. A bug could have been fixed in cauldron by updating to a newer
+version (independently of the bug report), but still remain in Mageia 2. And
+I've seen many bugs fixed in Mageia 1 before or at the same time as in
+cauldron.
+
+It's not an easy subject, the solution must be thinked of, taking every case
+into account.
+
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+<PRE>Op 03-10-11 16:45, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le dimanche 2 octobre
+</I>&gt;<i> 2011 22:38:45, vous avez &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op 02-10-11 22:28,
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; A bug reported
+</I>&gt;<i> against cauldron and still valid becomes a bug reported
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; against Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. If we don't change the Version field from cauldron to
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Mageia 2, we
+</I>&gt;<i> risk having some bugs fixed only in cauldron without an
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; update being
+</I>&gt;<i> issued in Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And copying it, so
+</I>&gt;<i> that there is the same report against cauldron as
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; against Mageia 2?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe. It could be a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> of work to maintain 2 versions of the same bug report.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+If you keep it in one report and the Cauldron bug gets solved by an
+update, how is one going to see at first sight that it wasn't resolved
+for the official release. What status should it get? It can't be
+&quot;resolved fixed&quot; if it still exists in another release.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Bugs on different
+</I>&gt;<i> releases should go into seperate Bug
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; reports, according
+</I>&gt;<i> to our manual. The Mageia 2 one is then set to depend
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on the cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> one, and the cauldron one is set to block the mageia 2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; one (because a
+</I>&gt;<i> patch is, of course, going to be tested in Cauldron first)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure. A bug
+</I>&gt;<i> could have been fixed in cauldron by updating to a newer version
+</I>&gt;<i> (independently of the bug report), but still remain in Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> And I've seen many bugs fixed in Mageia 1 before or at the same
+</I>&gt;<i> time as in cauldron.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's not an easy
+</I>&gt;<i> subject, the solution must be thinked of, taking every case into
+</I>&gt;<i> account.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Those bugs fixed in Mageia 1 before cauldron, were they set to &quot;depends
+on $cauldron bug number&quot;?
+
+Ideally, if the cauldron bug gets fixed by an update, it stops blocking
+the Mageia 1 bug, so the maintainer can then concentrate on solving the
+Mageia 1 bug. And if the blocker was properly set, he'll know the bug is
+still in Mageia 1
+
+Whatever solution is chosen, it should be made very clear in the Triage
+guide. At the moment this part states:
+
+
+
+****************************************************************
+
+What if the same bug affects two different releases?
+
+Identical bugs filed on different releases should not be closed as
+duplicates.
+For instance, if a bug is reported on Cauldron and then subsequently on
+a stable release, do not close the second report as a duplicate of the
+first.
+The reason for this is that resolution of a bug in one distribution does
+not imply resolution of the same bug in another distribution, so under
+the current Bugzilla system, having separate reports for each
+distribution is the best way to handle such situations.
+You have to also set blockers and depends properly: cauldron bug blocks
+other mageia versions bugs.
+
+*********************************************************************************
+
+
+
+Regards,
+Marja
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+I started to give bugs that were assigned &gt;= (or is it =&gt;)? two months
+ago, but weren't accepted by the assignee, the assigned status.
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+Anyone disapprove?
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+Marja
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">4E8A8CC7.1010602 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>I started to give bugs that were assigned &gt;= (or is it =&gt;)? two
+</I>&gt;<i>months ago, but weren't accepted by the assignee, the assigned
+</I>&gt;<i>status.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Anyone disapprove?
+</I>
+Sounds good to me. If they don't want it, they can assign it back. I think
+we do have to follow progress on assigned bugs, but that probably comes
+after first triaging all open reports.
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+&gt;<i> Op Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 06:34:15AM +0200 schreef Marja in
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">4E8A8CC7.1010602 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I started to give bugs that were assigned &gt;= (or is it =&gt;)? two months
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ago, but weren't accepted by the assignee, the assigned status.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anyone disapprove?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds good to me. If they don't want it, they can assign it back. I think
+</I>&gt;<i> we do have to follow progress on assigned bugs, but that probably comes
+</I>&gt;<i> after first triaging all open reports.
+</I>
+I am not agree, assigned should use by the developper/pacakger when
+(s)he actually works on a bugreport. For me you will just break my
+work flow.
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Remco Rijnders&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">remco at webconquest.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 06:34:15AM +0200 schreef Marja in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">4E8A8CC7.1010602 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I started to give bugs that were assigned&gt;= (or is it =&gt;)? two months
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ago, but weren't accepted by the assignee, the assigned status.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anyone disapprove?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sounds good to me. If they don't want it, they can assign it back. I think
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we do have to follow progress on assigned bugs, but that probably comes
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> after first triaging all open reports.
+</I>&gt;<i> I am not agree, assigned should use by the developper/pacakger when
+</I>&gt;<i> (s)he actually works on a bugreport. For me you will just break my
+</I>&gt;<i> work flow.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>Both thanks for the feedback. I don't want to break anyones workflow, so
+I won't continue.
+
+Maybe it is a better idea, next time I run into this, to ping the
+assignee and remind him the bug was assigned to him/her &gt;= two months ago
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+<PRE>Le mardi 4 octobre 2011 07:14:50, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op 04-10-11 07:05, D.Morgan schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Remco Rijnders&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">remco at webconquest.com</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Op Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 06:34:15AM +0200 schreef Marja in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">4E8A8CC7.1010602 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I started to give bugs that were assigned&gt;= (or is it =&gt;)? two months
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; ago, but weren't accepted by the assignee, the assigned status.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Anyone disapprove?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Sounds good to me. If they don't want it, they can assign it back. I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; think we do have to follow progress on assigned bugs, but that probably
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; comes after first triaging all open reports.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am not agree, assigned should use by the developper/pacakger when
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (s)he actually works on a bugreport. For me you will just break my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; work flow.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Both thanks for the feedback. I don't want to break anyones workflow, so
+</I>&gt;<i> I won't continue.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe it is a better idea, next time I run into this, to ping the
+</I>&gt;<i> assignee and remind him the bug was assigned to him/her &gt;= two months ago
+</I>
+Yes, I think so.
+
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">20111004093200.6C90A4462B at alamut.mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>--- Comment #6 from Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">m.van.waes at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; 2011-10-04 13:31:59 CEST ---
+</I>&gt;<i>(In reply to comment #4)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Really? That's what the triage guide says?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>I never saw anything in the Triage guide about what the &quot;assigned&quot; status means
+</I>&gt;<i>or about who is supposed to set it to that status, and I still don't see it. I
+</I>&gt;<i>don't know whether that is because my brain fools me, or because it really
+</I>&gt;<i>isn't there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I thought only the Assignee sets status to ASSIGNED to show that they are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> actually working on the bug.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>I understood the same from D. Morgan, I'll revert the status to &quot;new&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>It is confusing, though, status &quot;ASSIGNED&quot; really meaning &quot;WORKING ON SOLUTION&quot;
+</I>
+Taking this to the list and out of the bugreport where this discussion
+doesn't really belong...
+
+I agree that it currently is unclear what this status means. So, at the
+very least we need to address this in the revised triage guide.
+
+To me it seems logical that when something is assigned to a maintainer,
+that that also turns the status to ASSIGNED. If that's not what it means,
+then perhaps the status needs to be changed to better reflect the meaning
+of the status. I don't know what a good alternative would be though...
+&quot;ACCEPTED_BY_MAINTAINER&quot;? &quot;IN_PROGRESS&quot;?
+
+Or should we just leave it at &quot;TRIAGED&quot; and then let the maintainer change
+it to &quot;ASSIGNED&quot;?
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 09:31:59AM +0000, Marja wrote in
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">20111004093200.6C90A4462B at alamut.mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --- Comment #6 from Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">m.van.waes at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; 2011-10-04
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 13:31:59 CEST ---
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (In reply to comment #4)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Really? That's what the triage guide says?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I never saw anything in the Triage guide about what the &quot;assigned&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> status means
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or about who is supposed to set it to that status, and I still don't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> see it. I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> don't know whether that is because my brain fools me, or because it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> really
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> isn't there.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I thought only the Assignee sets status to ASSIGNED to show that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> they are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> actually working on the bug.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I understood the same from D. Morgan, I'll revert the status to &quot;new&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is confusing, though, status &quot;ASSIGNED&quot; really meaning &quot;WORKING ON
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> SOLUTION&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Taking this to the list and out of the bugreport where this discussion
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't really belong...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree that it currently is unclear what this status means. So, at
+</I>&gt;<i> the very least we need to address this in the revised triage guide.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To me it seems logical that when something is assigned to a
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainer, that that also turns the status to ASSIGNED. If that's not
+</I>&gt;<i> what it means, then perhaps the status needs to be changed to better
+</I>&gt;<i> reflect the meaning of the status. I don't know what a good
+</I>&gt;<i> alternative would be though... &quot;ACCEPTED_BY_MAINTAINER&quot;? &quot;IN_PROGRESS&quot;?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or should we just leave it at &quot;TRIAGED&quot; and then let the maintainer
+</I>&gt;<i> change it to &quot;ASSIGNED&quot;?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Remco
+</I>
+Thanks for taking it to this list :)
+
+Triaged is a keyword, though, we can't set bugs to a TRIAGED status. To
+make it confusing, assigned is a keyword we use when we assign a bug to
+a maintainer.
+What this was about, is the ASSIGNED status. According to bugzilla, an
+assigned bug remains NEW until the assignee decides what to do with it.
+Bugzilla doesn't say the assignee waits to accept until he/she starts
+working on it.
+
+*NEW*
+ This bug has recently been added to the assignee's list of bugs and
+ must be processed. Bugs in this state may be accepted, and become
+ *ASSIGNED*, passed on to someone else, and remain *NEW*, or resolved
+ and marked *RESOLVED*.
+
+BTW, I found this here:
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status">https://bugs.mageia.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status</A>
+
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+This afternoon I had some time to begin making a triage flowchart. I
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+Of course it's only a start and not good yet (I should have used arrows
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+When we change the component of a bug like from Installer to RPM
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+do that and the bug is assigned to somebody, the change will assign
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+
+And sorry for all the wrong component. We must indeed check that also
+more. :)
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When we change the component of a bug like from Installer to RPM
+</I>&gt;<i> PACKAGE, we must shot the case &quot;Reset Assignee to default&quot;. If we don't
+</I>&gt;<i> do that and the bug is assigned to somebody, the change will assign
+</I>&gt;<i> again to bugsquad.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And sorry for all the wrong component. We must indeed check that also
+</I>&gt;<i> more. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>
+So that's why bug 205 was assigned back to the bugsquad: it happened
+automatically because the component was corrected from installer to rpm
+packages.
+So I can reassign to Colin
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] Help asked Fwd: Triage: examples">marja11 at xs4all.nl
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+ <I>Mon Oct 10 19:46:39 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+This morning I sent this mail to Dan.
+
+He replied he thought this was a good idea and that he would try to make
+time for it.
+
+Who are willing to help him?
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+
+-------- Originele bericht --------
+Onderwerp: Triage: examples
+Datum: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:39:16 +0200
+Van: Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;
+Aan: Dan-Marian Joita (dan) &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">djmarian4u at yahoo.com</A>&gt;
+CC: Manuel Hiebel (leuhmanu) &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">manuel at hiebel.eu</A>&gt;
+
+
+
+Hi Dan,
+
+Maybe we could work something out that you and an experienced Bug Squad
+member are on IRC at the same time and you could look at bugs together.
+
+Or I could help with looking at old bugs or at package requests together
+with you.
+
+I'm not good at triaging new bugs, so I can't help you with new bugs,
+but maybe someone more experienced could spare some time to help (and I
+could join and learn, too :) )
+
+Our irc channel is <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-bugsquad">irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-bugsquad</A>
+
+On working days you won't see much happening there. There is more
+activity in the evenings and in the weekend.
+
+What do you think of making an appointment for when you'd like to try
+this &quot;looking at a bug together&quot;?
+
+Best regards,
+Marja
+
+
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20Tracker%20for%20Bug%20Squad%27s%20Need_discuss%20items&In-Reply-To=%3C4E985A3F.6090804%40xs4all.nl%3E"
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+ <I>Fri Oct 14 17:50:23 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+We don't have meetings, even though we do have things to discuss and
+decide about.
+
+If you're a Bug Squad member and want to vote or discuss about our
+issues, please add yourself to the cc field of bug 3046
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3046">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3046</A>
+
+and of the seperate issues (in seperate bug reports) that are going to
+be linked to that one and that you're interested in
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+
+
+-------- Originele bericht --------
+Onderwerp: [bugs] [Bug 3046] [New] Tracker for Bug Squad's Need_discuss
+items
+Datum: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:28:08 +0200
+Van: Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Antwoord-naar: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+Aan: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">bugs at ml.mageia.org</A>
+
+
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3046">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3046</A>
+
+ Summary: Tracker for Bug Squad's Need_discuss items
+ Product: Infrastructure
+ Version: unspecified
+ Platform: All
+ URL: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage_guide">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage_guide</A>
+ OS/Version: Linux
+ Status: NEW
+ Severity: normal
+ Priority: Normal
+ Component: Bugzilla
+ AssignedTo: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+ ReportedBy: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>
+ CC: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">sysadmin-bugs at ml.mageia.org</A>, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-webteam at mageia.org</A>
+
+
+This is a tracker bug for all the Need_discuss items at the end of the Triage
+guide (see link in URL field)
+
+All Bug Squad members are welcome to add their e-mailaddresses to the cc fields
+of this tracker bug and of the bug reports for the seperate items
+
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%201.%20Bug_triage%20page%20for%20new%20wiki%202.%20printer%20issues&In-Reply-To=%3C4EA7C83B.7080608%40xs4all.nl%3E"
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+ <I>Wed Oct 26 10:43:39 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+Here's the new Bug_triage page
+<A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Bug_triage">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Bug_triage</A>
+This is not the triage guide, nor is it the Bug Squad page.
+
+I haven't completely run out of ideas on how to futher improve it, but
+I'd like to have some feed back first.
+Do you see something that isn't good enough? Please let me know.
+
+BTW, Florian Hubold has done some improvements to our triage guide,
+(e.g. PRINTER ISSUES!)
+<A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide</A>
+but I still need to revert some of the changes I made about upstream
+bugs and add something new there, that part isn't good.
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+</PRE>
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%201.%20Bug_triage%20page%20for%20new%20wiki%202.%20printer%0A%20issues&In-Reply-To=%3C4EA7DF4D.8070209%40xs4all.nl%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues">marja11 at xs4all.nl
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Wed Oct 26 12:22:05 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>I should have been more specific, Florian improved the hardware
+detection, printer and scanner problem parts of our triage guide, but
+those changes weren't made to the old triage guide
+
+Op 26-10-11 10:43, Marja van Waes schreef:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here's the new Bug_triage page
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Bug_triage">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Bug_triage</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is not the triage guide, nor is it the Bug Squad page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I haven't completely run out of ideas on how to futher improve it, but
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to have some feed back first.
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you see something that isn't good enough? Please let me know.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW, Florian Hubold has done some improvements to our triage guide,
+</I>&gt;<i> (e.g. PRINTER ISSUES!)
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> but I still need to revert some of the changes I made about upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> bugs and add something new there, that part isn't good.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%201.%20Bug_triage%20page%20for%20new%20wiki%202.%20printer%0A%20issues&In-Reply-To=%3C1319635122.5522.4.camel%40vosdook%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues">manuel at hiebel.eu
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+ <I>Wed Oct 26 15:18:42 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 26 octobre 2011 &#224; 10:43 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here's the new Bug_triage page
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Bug_triage">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Bug_triage</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is not the triage guide, nor is it the Bug Squad page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I haven't completely run out of ideas on how to futher improve it, but
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to have some feed back first.
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you see something that isn't good enough? Please let me know.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW, Florian Hubold has done some improvements to our triage guide,
+</I>&gt;<i> (e.g. PRINTER ISSUES!)
+</I>Thanks to him :)
+
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> but I still need to revert some of the changes I made about upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> bugs and add something new there, that part isn't good.
+</I>For
+<A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide#Special_cases_of_specific_information_required">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide#Special_cases_of_specific_information_required</A>
+
+What about if we can copy that (an improve it) in the users doc (with
+the help of other team) so we have just link in the wiki (and it's all
+the time updated ) ?
+
+&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide#Special_cases_of_specific_information_required">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide#Special_cases_of_specific_information_required</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What about if we can copy that (an improve it) in the users doc (with
+</I>&gt;<i> the help of other team) so we have just link in the wiki (and it's all
+</I>&gt;<i> the time updated ) ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Good idea, I think. But I'd like to expand it a bit first. When a user
+types &quot;vug&quot; instead of &quot;bug&quot;, he can't do backspace to correct. (I know
+by experience, I'm very good at hitting the wrong keys, even after going
+to tty2 during install). I never found out how to replace &quot;vug&quot; by
+&quot;bug&quot;. Does going to the left with an arrow key and then press the
+delete key work in this situation?
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 26 octobre 2011 &#224; 16:14 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op 26-10-11 15:18, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide#Special_cases_of_specific_information_required">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide#Special_cases_of_specific_information_required</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What about if we can copy that (an improve it) in the users doc (with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the help of other team) so we have just link in the wiki (and it's all
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the time updated ) ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Good idea, I think. But I'd like to expand it a bit first. When a user
+</I>&gt;<i> types &quot;vug&quot; instead of &quot;bug&quot;, he can't do backspace to correct. (I know
+</I>&gt;<i> by experience, I'm very good at hitting the wrong keys, even after going
+</I>&gt;<i> to tty2 during install). I never found out how to replace &quot;vug&quot; by
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;bug&quot;. Does going to the left with an arrow key and then press the
+</I>&gt;<i> delete key work in this situation?
+</I>
+I wanted to talk about all the part of the 'debugging' help not just the
+installer part.
+
+For 'vug' versus 'bug' I don't know.
+
+
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+<PRE>Op 26-10-11 17:15, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 26 octobre 2011 &#224; 16:14 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op 26-10-11 15:18, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide#Special_cases_of_specific_information_required">http://www.mandrivauser.de/mga-testwiki/index.php/Triage_guide#Special_cases_of_specific_information_required</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What about if we can copy that (an improve it) in the users doc (with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the help of other team) so we have just link in the wiki (and it's all
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the time updated ) ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Good idea, I think. But I'd like to expand it a bit first. When a user
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> types &quot;vug&quot; instead of &quot;bug&quot;, he can't do backspace to correct. (I know
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> by experience, I'm very good at hitting the wrong keys, even after going
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to tty2 during install). I never found out how to replace &quot;vug&quot; by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;bug&quot;. Does going to the left with an arrow key and then press the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> delete key work in this situation?
+</I>&gt;<i> I wanted to talk about all the part of the 'debugging' help not just the
+</I>&gt;<i> installer part.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For 'vug' versus 'bug' I don't know.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+All debugging is fine with me
+
+btw, doktor5000 just told me he couldn't reproduce my vug - bug issue.
+It might be a special feature of my new laptop :(
+
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+<PRE>What to do with this bug?
+
+Mageia 2 spec #034
+also <A HREF="seehttps://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">seehttps://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
+
+Mageia repositories currently have a media_info dir which contains a
+line-oriented 'synthesis' file, plus some XML files with additional
+information like package descriptions, and a hdlist which AFAIK is not
+used by urpmi.
+
+Fedora and opensuse repositories do not use this format for metadata but
+instead have a repodata dir containing a 'primary' and other XML files,
+which are all listed in a 'rpomd.xml' file.
+
+The two schemes are similar which is not very surprising because the
+requirements are the same. Most package managers with rpm support can use
+the repomd style but urpmi can't. Only a few package managers support
+synthesis style metadata. Switching to this 'standard' repository metadata
+would give people more choice: use other package managers (e.g. yum or zypper)
+in mageia and use urpmi on other distros. In the long term this should help
+make urpmi easier to maintain: the &quot;standard&quot; metadata is a bit easier to
+extend,
+urpmi will be more a standard tool: behavior can easily be compared to other
+package managers, test suites may be shared.
+
+Some not very useful index size numbers for mga cauldron x86_64 core/release :
+1.7M synthesis.hdlist.cz
+1M info.xml.lzma
+5,6M changelog.xml.lzma
+8,7M files.xml.lzma
+
+4,4M primary.xml.gz
+3,4M other.xml.gz
+11M filelists.xml.gz (8,8M when compressed with xz)
+
+Goals:
+- no negative impact for people who use the default package tools
+- basic support for other package managers (yum, zypper, apt) in mageia 2
+ (better support where packagekit uses the package manager the user has
+ chosen is not part of this spec but could be a follow-up feature)
+
+the plan is:
+- modify urpmi to only support repomd metadata
+- add repomd metadata to the cauldron repository while keeping synthesis
+- upload the new urpmi
+- after either the mga2 or mga3 release:
+ drop synthesis/hdlist metadata from cauldron
+
+so there will be 1 or 2 stable releases that carry both types of
+repository metadata. The build infrastructure needs to support this of
+course. This adds some complexity and uses extra space on the mirrors.
+
+Things that need to be changed:
+- urpmi perl code
+- maybe a fast xml reader in C, like yum has ?
+- rpmdrake/installer ?
+- build system
+
+Open questions:
+- Is there anything I missed, unique urpmi features that will be broken by
+ such a change, other expected problems?
+- A volunteer is needed for writing the needed perl code for perl-URPM etc.,
+ otherwise the change won't happen.
+
+
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">4EA97E3B.9070103 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>What to do with this bug?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Mageia 2 spec #034
+</I>&gt;<i>also <A HREF="seehttps://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">seehttps://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
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+I think this one is perfect for discussion on the developers list. Not
+sure what we do with it after it is discussed on there though...
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+&gt;<i> Op Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 05:52:27PM +0200 schreef Marja in
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">4EA97E3B.9070103 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What to do with this bug?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 2 spec #034
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> also <A HREF="seehttps://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">seehttps://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think this one is perfect for discussion on the developers list. Not
+</I>&gt;<i> sure what we do with it after it is discussed on there though...
+</I>
+Thanks, sent to their ml :)
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+At this moment, we have four subjects to discuss:
+
+ 1. Groups permission, add status ?
+ 2. what to do for unconfirmed bug. (like bug 2081
+ <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081</A>
+ 3. bug 1364 &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364</A>&gt; Does it
+ irritate most of us, to have to fill out a comment field when
+ closing a bug as duplicate?
+ 4. How do we improve the way we communicate with reporters and one
+ another about how much is done (bug 3047
+ &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047</A>&gt; comment 18)
+
+I'd like to add a fifth subject: on the tenth of october, I send a mail
+to our ml asking who would be willing to help DJ Marian to learn to
+triage. No one replied.
+
+My ideas are:
+
+# 1 Postpone that subject again
+# 2 Let the developer of the package decide
+# 3 It's good to explain why you think it is a duplicate so I think 1364
+should be closed
+# 4 Make time to communicate. We have more time when we have more
+triagers: /Idea:/ Explain to all packagers that there are barely any
+triagers and ask them who is willing to become a member of the bug squad
+_only for one or more of their own packages_
+# 5 At this moment, with the work on the new wiki, I don't have time
+either :(
+
+Please share what you think about these - and maybe more - issues
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
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+The summary of last weeks meeting is attached. Sorry for not inviting
+you all to it.
+
+The participants (Leuhmanu, Remmy, Stormi and me) had decided to have
+that meeting a few hours before it started, no one had time to write an
+invitation to all Bug Squad members.
+
+Please complain if you feel ignored!
+
+It isn't sure yet when next meeting will be. Earlier this week, on IRC,
+we decided to discuss our meeting items on the mailing list first and to
+meet afterwards to take decisions. You received the list of subjects to
+be discussed yesterday.
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+between 10.00h UTC and 18.00h UTC
+If you want to join the meeting: please add here what times you're
+available.
+
+
+Op 28-10-11 18:31, Marja van Waes schreef:
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At this moment, we have four subjects to discuss:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Groups permission, add status ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. what to do for unconfirmed bug. (like bug 2081
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. bug 1364 &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364</A>&gt; Does it
+</I>&gt;<i> irritate most of us, to have to fill out a comment field when
+</I>&gt;<i> closing a bug as duplicate?
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. How do we improve the way we communicate with reporters and one
+</I>&gt;<i> another about how much is done (bug 3047
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047</A>&gt; comment 18)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>5.
+&gt;<i> I'd like to add a fifth subject: on the tenth of october, I sent a
+</I>&gt;<i> mail to our ml asking who would be willing to help DJ Marian to learn
+</I>&gt;<i> to triage. No one replied
+</I>
+6. In the Bug Squad page in our new wiki, I put: Team leaders: Shared
+responsibility of the team members
+&gt;<i> My ideas are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # 1 Postpone that subject again
+</I>&gt;<i> # 2 Let the developer of the package decide
+</I>&gt;<i> # 3 It's good to explain why you think it is a duplicate so I think
+</I>&gt;<i> 1364 should be closed
+</I>&gt;<i> # 4 Make time to communicate. We have more time when we have more
+</I>&gt;<i> triagers: /Idea:/ Explain to all packagers that there are barely any
+</I>&gt;<i> triagers and ask them who is willing to become a member of the bug
+</I>&gt;<i> squad _only for one or more of their own packages_
+</I>&gt;<i> # 5 At this moment, with the work on the new wiki, I don't have time
+</I>&gt;<i> either :(
+</I>#6 I think leaving this field blank, gives a bad first impression when
+someone who might want to join our team and who we'd really like to join
+us, visits our page.
+
+If no one else volunteers and if most of us agree, I'm willing to become
+team leader if Manuel is willing to become deputy team leader.
+(Yes, Samuel would be a better leader than me, as soon as he's got
+enough time I'll gladly resign in favour of him :-) )
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please share what you think about these - and maybe more - issues
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+ <I>Mon Oct 31 14:06:18 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Horrible, I was too much in a hurry when I wrote the part about
+being/not being available for a meeting, sorry :-[
+It should be:
+
+Marja *is* available for a meeting saturday and sunday, except saturday
+between 10.00h UTC and 18.00h UTC
+
+
+Op 31-10-11 08:12, Marja van Waes schreef:
+&gt;<i> Marja isn't available for a meeting saturday and sunday, except
+</I>&gt;<i> saturday between 10.00h UTC and 18.00h UTC
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to join the meeting: please add here what times you're
+</I>&gt;<i> available.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Op 28-10-11 18:31, Marja van Waes schreef:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> At this moment, we have four subjects to discuss:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. Groups permission, add status ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. what to do for unconfirmed bug. (like bug 2081
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3. bug 1364 &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364</A>&gt; Does it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> irritate most of us, to have to fill out a comment field when
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> closing a bug as duplicate?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 4. How do we improve the way we communicate with reporters and one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> another about how much is done (bug 3047
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047</A>&gt; comment 18)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd like to add a fifth subject: on the tenth of october, I sent a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mail to our ml asking who would be willing to help DJ Marian to learn
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to triage. No one replied
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 6. In the Bug Squad page in our new wiki, I put: Team leaders: Shared
+</I>&gt;<i> responsibility of the team members
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My ideas are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # 1 Postpone that subject again
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # 2 Let the developer of the package decide
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # 3 It's good to explain why you think it is a duplicate so I think
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1364 should be closed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # 4 Make time to communicate. We have more time when we have more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> triagers: /Idea:/ Explain to all packagers that there are barely any
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> triagers and ask them who is willing to become a member of the bug
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> squad _only for one or more of their own packages_
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # 5 At this moment, with the work on the new wiki, I don't have time
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> either :(
+</I>&gt;<i> #6 I think leaving this field blank, gives a bad first impression when
+</I>&gt;<i> someone who might want to join our team and who we'd really like to
+</I>&gt;<i> join us, visits our page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If no one else volunteers and if most of us agree, I'm willing to
+</I>&gt;<i> become team leader if Manuel is willing to become deputy team leader.
+</I>&gt;<i> (Yes, Samuel would be a better leader than me, as soon as he's got
+</I>&gt;<i> enough time I'll gladly resign in favour of him :-) )
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please share what you think about these - and maybe more - issues
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
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+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 14:06:18 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 37<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Change of the component
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] The meaning of the ASSIGNED status (Re: [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished)
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Beginning to make a triage flowchart
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Change of the component
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Help asked Fwd: Triage: examples
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Tracker for Bug Squad's Need_discuss items
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss before next meeting - more meeting items?
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Summary of last saturday's meeting
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
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+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 14:06:18 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 37<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] The meaning of the ASSIGNED status (Re: [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished)
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Beginning to make a triage flowchart
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Change of the component
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Change of the component
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Help asked Fwd: Triage: examples
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Tracker for Bug Squad's Need_discuss items
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss before next meeting - more meeting items?
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Summary of last saturday's meeting
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Oct 31 14:06:18 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 13:06:03 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
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+ <h1>October 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Oct 2 12:55:19 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 14:06:18 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 37<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Beginning to make a triage flowchart
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Change of the component
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Change of the component
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss before next meeting - more meeting items?
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Help asked Fwd: Triage: examples
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Summary of last saturday's meeting
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] The meaning of the ASSIGNED status (Re: [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished)
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Tracker for Bug Squad's Need_discuss items
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Oct 31 14:06:18 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 13:06:03 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
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+ <h1>October 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Oct 2 12:55:19 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 14:06:18 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 37<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01317552919- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01317552919-01317563788- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01317552919-01317563788-01317569753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01317552919-01317563788-01317569753-01317577898- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317552919-01317563788-01317569753-01317583508- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317552919-01317563788-01317569753-01317583508-01317583788- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317552919-01317563788-01317569753-01317583508-01317583788-01317587050- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317552919-01317563788-01317569753-01317583508-01317583788-01317587050-01317587338- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317552919-01317563788-01317569753-01317583508-01317583788-01317587050-01317587338-01317587983- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317552919-01317563788-01317569753-01317583508-01317587250- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01317653155- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01317653155-01317677152- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01317702855- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01317702855-01317704228- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01317702855-01317704228-01317704742- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01317702855-01317704228-01317704742-01317705290- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317702855-01317704228-01317704742-01317705290-01317713101- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] assigned long ago but still new
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01317724735- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01317724735-01317727177- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] The meaning of the ASSIGNED status (Re: [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished)
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01317739765- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Beginning to make a triage flowchart
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01317746091- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Change of the component
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01317746091-01317748928- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Change of the component
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01318268799- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Help asked Fwd: Triage: examples
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01318607423- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Tracker for Bug Squad's Need_discuss items
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01319618619- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01319618619-01319624525- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01319618619-01319635122- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01319618619-01319635122-01319638447- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01319618619-01319635122-01319638447-01319642135- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01319618619-01319635122-01319638447-01319642135-01319654181- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] 1. Bug_triage page for new wiki 2. printer issues
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01319730747- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01319730747-01319731693- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01319730747-01319731693-01319780589- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug 2157 - Switch to &quot;standard&quot; rpm metadata for package repositories in Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01319819478- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss before next meeting - more meeting items?
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+do we have documentation to indicate what the rpms refers in the
+install ? (DrakX-installer)
+
+the src rpms:
+drakx-installer-advertising
+drakx-installer-binaries
+drakx-installer-images
+drakx-installer-rescue
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+&gt;<i> do we have documentation to indicate what the rpms refers in the
+</I>&gt;<i> install ? (DrakX-installer)
+</I>
+Those are pretty self documented regarding this aspect through
+rpm -qpil:
+
+drakx-installer-advertising:
+ the ads displayed while installing packages
+
+drakx-installer-binaries:
+ the stage1 needed to bootstrap the stage2 (network(ftp|http|nfs|...)/cd/hd
+ method choice)
+ as well as the rescue GUI (when typing &quot;rescue&quot; at install CD's prompt)
+
+drakx-installer-images:
+ various bits needed to build the install media (CDs, ...):
+ - boot kernel + needed modules
+ - alternative boot kernel
+ - isolinux + its conf
+ - the mini iso (build from stage1 &amp; stage2)
+ (needs d-i-binaries to be build)
+
+drakx-installer-rescue:
+ the actual rescue contents (all tools needed for rescue) as a squasfs image
+ (needs d-i-binaries to be build)
+
+drakx-installer-stage2:
+ the installer stage2: the part that starts X, autoconfigure HW &amp;
+ install packages
+ (as a squasfs image)
+
+Latest bit is meta-task that provides rpmsrate which defines which
+packages will get installed
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+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>)
+
+I was asked to define a process for backports validation, so here is a
+proposal. We can discuss it a few days and then I'll add the result to the
+backports policy page.
+
+Process for backports :
+
+Triage:
+- identify backport requests
+- add &quot;Backport Request: &quot; in the bug report summary
+- add the &quot;backport&quot; keyword
+- assign to maintainer
+
+The maintainer can refuse to do the backport :
+- doesn't want to maintain it =&gt; assign the bug report back to
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">bugsquad at mageia.org</A> so that another packager can step in
+- has a good reason for not providing this backport (policy, possible
+breakage...) =&gt; close as wontfix
+
+Packager:
+- create bug report if not done already
+- submit to {core,nonfree,tainted}/backports_testing
+- find a tester : original bug reporter when there is one, yourself if there's
+none, or ask in forums/irc/MLs...
+- once tested by at least one person (it must be said explicitly in the bug
+report), hand it to QA :
+ - make sure the bug report summary starts with &quot;Backport Request: &quot; or
+&quot;Backport Candidate: &quot;
+ - add the &quot;backport&quot; keyword if missing
+ - assign to <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">qa-bugs at ml.mageia.org</A>
+ - list the source RPMs if there are several
+- be ready to fix bugs and answer QA team questions
+
+QA:
+- test backports the same way that we test updates. But don't forget that
+updates have a higher priority than that of backports.
+- move the packages from backports_testing to backports
+
+Packager again:
+- be ready to fix bugs : once you pushed a backport, you have to maintain it
+until the distribution's end of life :)
+
+Does this seem a good process, from the packager, QA and triage point of view?
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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+During the latest packager meeting I more or less accepted to try to make sure
+that we will get weekly reports about security bugs in bugzilla (for example:
+how many open, how many closed in last week, medium delay from bug report
+creation to update submission... Using charts could be good once they'll work
+in bugzilla). Can I just hand this task to someone in the triage team and
+forget about it (so that I can concentrate on other tasks :)) ?
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 8 septembre 2011 12:59:10, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> (QA Team and Triage team in CC, but please answer only to
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was asked to define a process for backports validation, so here is a
+</I>&gt;<i> proposal. We can discuss it a few days and then I'll add the result to the
+</I>&gt;<i> backports policy page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Process for backports :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Triage:
+</I>&gt;<i> - identify backport requests
+</I>&gt;<i> - add &quot;Backport Request: &quot; in the bug report summary
+</I>&gt;<i> - add the &quot;backport&quot; keyword
+</I>&gt;<i> - assign to maintainer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The maintainer can refuse to do the backport :
+</I>&gt;<i> - doesn't want to maintain it =&gt; assign the bug report back to
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">bugsquad at mageia.org</A> so that another packager can step in
+</I>&gt;<i> - has a good reason for not providing this backport (policy, possible
+</I>&gt;<i> breakage...) =&gt; close as wontfix
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager:
+</I>&gt;<i> - create bug report if not done already
+</I>&gt;<i> - submit to {core,nonfree,tainted}/backports_testing
+</I>&gt;<i> - find a tester : original bug reporter when there is one, yourself if
+</I>&gt;<i> there's none, or ask in forums/irc/MLs...
+</I>&gt;<i> - once tested by at least one person (it must be said explicitly in the bug
+</I>&gt;<i> report), hand it to QA :
+</I>&gt;<i> - make sure the bug report summary starts with &quot;Backport Request: &quot; or
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Backport Candidate: &quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> - add the &quot;backport&quot; keyword if missing
+</I>&gt;<i> - assign to <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">qa-bugs at ml.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> - list the source RPMs if there are several
+</I>&gt;<i> - be ready to fix bugs and answer QA team questions
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> QA:
+</I>&gt;<i> - test backports the same way that we test updates. But don't forget that
+</I>&gt;<i> updates have a higher priority than that of backports.
+</I>&gt;<i> - move the packages from backports_testing to backports
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager again:
+</I>&gt;<i> - be ready to fix bugs : once you pushed a backport, you have to maintain
+</I>&gt;<i> it until the distribution's end of life :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Does this seem a good process, from the packager, QA and triage point of
+</I>&gt;<i> view?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I updated the wiki page :
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=backports_policy#steps">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=backports_policy#steps</A>
+
+Samuel
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+<PRE>In order to differentiate update candidates awaiting testing and those awaiting
+packager action, we will now assign the bug reports to the packagers when we
+are waiting for their input.
+
+When doing this, we need to add qa-bugs in CC to the bug report to make sure
+we will still get notifications about it, and that above all it still shows in
+the saved search :
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=waiting%20for%20QA%20test&amp;sharer_id=22">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=waiting%20for%20QA%20test&amp;sharer_id=22</A>
+
+This way the state of an update candidate can be identified from the
+information in the bug report:
+- assigned to qa-bugs and has the validated keyword =&gt; ready to push
+- assigned to qa-bugs without the validated keyword =&gt; update candidate that
+needs testing
+- not assigned to qa-bugs but has qa-bugs in CC =&gt; update candidate awaiting
+packager input
+
+In the above saved search, sorting by Assignee will allow to separate updates
+needing testing and updates awaiting packager input. Maybe in the future we
+can split it in 2 different saved searches if we find it useful.
+
+I see 2 options :
+- either systematically assign to the packager when a tester encounters a
+difficulty or needs more information
+- or only when we have been waiting for more than 2 days
+
+The first option could be more heavy but the second requires people from QA
+and/or triage to regularly update the bug reports. As we already do it, I
+would choose option 2.
+
+Which option do you prefer ?
+
+Once we have decided I will try to remember to send this piece of information
+to the mageia-dev mailing and to update the wiki. If I forget, please remind
+it to me :)
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
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+<PRE>Le samedi 10 septembre 2011 &#224; 00:33 +0200, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> In order to differentiate update candidates awaiting testing and those awaiting
+</I>&gt;<i> packager action, we will now assign the bug reports to the packagers when we
+</I>&gt;<i> are waiting for their input.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When doing this, we need to add qa-bugs in CC to the bug report to make sure
+</I>&gt;<i> we will still get notifications about it, and that above all it still shows in
+</I>&gt;<i> the saved search :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=waiting%20for%20QA%20test&amp;sharer_id=22">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=waiting%20for%20QA%20test&amp;sharer_id=22</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This way the state of an update candidate can be identified from the
+</I>&gt;<i> information in the bug report:
+</I>&gt;<i> - assigned to qa-bugs and has the validated keyword =&gt; ready to push
+</I>&gt;<i> - assigned to qa-bugs without the validated keyword =&gt; update candidate that
+</I>&gt;<i> needs testing
+</I>&gt;<i> - not assigned to qa-bugs but has qa-bugs in CC =&gt; update candidate awaiting
+</I>&gt;<i> packager input
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the above saved search, sorting by Assignee will allow to separate updates
+</I>&gt;<i> needing testing and updates awaiting packager input. Maybe in the future we
+</I>&gt;<i> can split it in 2 different saved searches if we find it useful.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I see 2 options :
+</I>&gt;<i> - either systematically assign to the packager when a tester encounters a
+</I>&gt;<i> difficulty or needs more information
+</I>&gt;<i> - or only when we have been waiting for more than 2 days
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The first option could be more heavy but the second requires people from QA
+</I>&gt;<i> and/or triage to regularly update the bug reports. As we already do it, I
+</I>&gt;<i> would choose option 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which option do you prefer ?
+</I>option 2 for me
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Once we have decided I will try to remember to send this piece of information
+</I>&gt;<i> to the mageia-dev mailing and to update the wiki. If I forget, please remind
+</I>&gt;<i> it to me :)
+</I>mageia-discuss is not mageia-dev :p
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+--
+Manuel Hiebel (leuhmanu)
+
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+<PRE>Le samedi 10 septembre 2011 00:57:27, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le samedi 10 septembre 2011 &#224; 00:33 +0200, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In order to differentiate update candidates awaiting testing and those
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; awaiting packager action, we will now assign the bug reports to the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packagers when we are waiting for their input.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; When doing this, we need to add qa-bugs in CC to the bug report to make
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sure we will still get notifications about it, and that above all it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; still shows in the saved search :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; waiting%20for%20QA%20test&amp;sharer_id=22
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This way the state of an update candidate can be identified from the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; information in the bug report:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - assigned to qa-bugs and has the validated keyword =&gt; ready to push
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - assigned to qa-bugs without the validated keyword =&gt; update candidate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that needs testing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - not assigned to qa-bugs but has qa-bugs in CC =&gt; update candidate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; awaiting packager input
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In the above saved search, sorting by Assignee will allow to separate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; updates needing testing and updates awaiting packager input. Maybe in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the future we can split it in 2 different saved searches if we find it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; useful.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I see 2 options :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - either systematically assign to the packager when a tester encounters a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; difficulty or needs more information
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - or only when we have been waiting for more than 2 days
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The first option could be more heavy but the second requires people from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; QA and/or triage to regularly update the bug reports. As we already do
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it, I would choose option 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Which option do you prefer ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> option 2 for me
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Once we have decided I will try to remember to send this piece of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; information to the mageia-dev mailing and to update the wiki. If I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; forget, please remind it to me :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-discuss is not mageia-dev :p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I really meant mageia-dev, to pass the information to packagers, so that they
+know that they must assign the bug back to qa-bugs after they did their work
+:<i>)
+</I>
+Samuel
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+<PRE>Op 10-09-11 16:52, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+&gt;<i> Le samedi 10 septembre 2011 &#224; 14:17 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Remco and Manuel,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You guys are very busy, I know, but I guess it isn't wrong to let you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> know what I've been trying:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Three of the bugzilla bugs I have been looking into aren't, IMHO,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> really bugs, if the users had known what to expect and what to do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> during installation, I guess they would never have reported them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I tried to get in touch with someone of the documentation team, so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that if someone writes a &quot;how to install Mageia&quot;, this howto can, if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> necessary, be improved so that these &quot;bugs&quot; will be solved.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=documentation">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=documentation</A> looks rather
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dead :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How to contact/join the team
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mailing-list TODO
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IRC channel TODO
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> meetings TODO
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> team contact, leader, deputy leader, representative TODO
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Therefore I tried some different ways first, but those didn't work
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> out. Last time I tried was yesterday evening: I sent Ennael (she's on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the documentation team list) a PM. She'll probably get an avalange of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mails and messages. I don't know if and when she'll reply.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oh, on the white board I put HOWTO_INSTALL_MAGEIA (that's so long I'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bound to misspell sooner or later, H_I_M would have been better)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's it. Suggestions are welcome.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Have a nice weekend,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi, feel free to post these mail on bugsquad.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I will ask on the concil meeting if there is some news about this
+</I>&gt;<i> documentation team.
+</I>&gt;<i> For bug 1042 and 926 I don't know what to said, but for 727, maybe we
+</I>&gt;<i> can find a way to have a better step for the grub install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (We have notes <A HREF="http://mageia.org/1/notes/">http://mageia.org/1/notes/</A> or errata
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia1:errata">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia1:errata</A> (and Errata on the
+</I>&gt;<i> whiteboard for bugzilla, make by aahmad)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Thanks. I tried to find a developer to look at 727.
+
+(I mailed this to two of them, on september 7th. At that time, I wasn't aware that grub install might be related to a different package than drakx-installer-stage2):
+
+Hi Pascal and/or bom dia Dorileo,
+
+
+
+I'm learning to be a bug squad member, and I don't know which one of you
+to address.
+
+
+
+Dorileo is the only one who maintains installer, according to this list:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging#list_of_registered_people">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging#list_of_registered_people</A>
+
+And according to Sophie, there isn't a drakx-installer-stage2
+maintainer, but I know Pascal accepted installer issues before. Did you
+maintain drakx-installer-stage2 in Mandriva, Pascal?
+
+
+
+Anyway could you please look at
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727?">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727?</A> If it still hasn't been
+assigned to anyone else, could one of you take it?
+
+
+
+Thanks / obrigada
+
+Regards,
+
+Marja
+
+But since they didn't have time to reply fast (and I didn't manage to patiently wait), I figured it would be easier to address this problem in, e.g., an install.txt.
+
+Anyway, I'll have a look at the links you gave, Manuel, though the above one (<A HREF="http://mageia.org/1/notes/">http://mageia.org/1/notes/</A>) is very unreadable to me, it's kind of empty ;)
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+<PRE>Le samedi 10 septembre 2011 &#224; 01:01 +0200, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le samedi 10 septembre 2011 00:57:27, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le samedi 10 septembre 2011 &#224; 00:33 +0200, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; In order to differentiate update candidates awaiting testing and those
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; awaiting packager action, we will now assign the bug reports to the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; packagers when we are waiting for their input.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; When doing this, we need to add qa-bugs in CC to the bug report to make
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; sure we will still get notifications about it, and that above all it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; still shows in the saved search :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; waiting%20for%20QA%20test&amp;sharer_id=22
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; This way the state of an update candidate can be identified from the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; information in the bug report:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - assigned to qa-bugs and has the validated keyword =&gt; ready to push
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - assigned to qa-bugs without the validated keyword =&gt; update candidate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; that needs testing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - not assigned to qa-bugs but has qa-bugs in CC =&gt; update candidate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; awaiting packager input
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; In the above saved search, sorting by Assignee will allow to separate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; updates needing testing and updates awaiting packager input. Maybe in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; the future we can split it in 2 different saved searches if we find it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; useful.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I see 2 options :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - either systematically assign to the packager when a tester encounters a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; difficulty or needs more information
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - or only when we have been waiting for more than 2 days
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; The first option could be more heavy but the second requires people from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; QA and/or triage to regularly update the bug reports. As we already do
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; it, I would choose option 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Which option do you prefer ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; option 2 for me
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Once we have decided I will try to remember to send this piece of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; information to the mageia-dev mailing and to update the wiki. If I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; forget, please remind it to me :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia-discuss is not mageia-dev :p
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I really meant mageia-dev, to pass the information to packagers, so that they
+</I>&gt;<i> know that they must assign the bug back to qa-bugs after they did their work
+</I>&gt;<i> :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>Hi,
+
+I have begin yesterday: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage:report">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage:report</A>
+I will finish this afternoon
+--
+Manuel Hiebel
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+
+Since some days there is a campagne on the packager list for adopt and
+maintain rpms.
+
+We have now more than 2000 srpms with a maintainer.
+Here is the list: <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt</A>
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+Sophie is not yet synchronised (patch welcome:p ) what's why she says
+nothing.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have now more than 2000 srpms with a maintainer.
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is the list: <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Great :-)
+
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+&gt;<i> Op 10-09-11 16:52, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> .
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I will ask on the concil meeting if there is some news about this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> documentation team.
+</I>
+When will that meeting be, or did you already get some news?
+
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+For the next meeting, the council representative must give one or more
+names for people who migrate our team doc from the old wiki to the new
+wiki. Then it will be opened to all people (if i'am not wrong).
+
+Is someone volunteer to work on this ?
+
+I created a pad with the old work ( ahmad maybe ?) :
+<A HREF="http://piratepad.net/RY33j1nH49/">http://piratepad.net/RY33j1nH49/</A>
+
+Any help is welcome to easily find our doc ! :)
+--
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+<PRE>Le samedi 24 septembre 2011 &#224; 16:45 +0200, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I created a pad with the old work ( ahmad maybe ?) :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/RY33j1nH49/">http://piratepad.net/RY33j1nH49/</A>
+</I> wrong url it's: <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/RY33j1nH49">http://piratepad.net/RY33j1nH49</A>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the next meeting, the council representative must give one or more
+</I>&gt;<i> names for people who migrate our team doc from the old wiki to the new
+</I>&gt;<i> wiki. Then it will be opened to all people (if i'am not wrong).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is someone volunteer to work on this ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I created a pad with the old work ( ahmad maybe ?) :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/RY33j1nH49">http://piratepad.net/RY33j1nH49</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any help is welcome to easily find our doc ! :)
+</I>
+I'd like some more information, it isn't very clear to me yet (and I
+haven't used piratepad before):
+
+I see 39 lines of text (and spaces), are a lot of those lines links, at
+this moment? If so, how do you get those links to work?
+
+Do documents like <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy</A> have
+to be rewritten, or are they not supposed to be rewritten or is that
+optional?
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+&gt;<i> I created a pad with the old work ( ahmad maybe ?) :
+</I>Ha ha, I totally misunderstood that line! I thought &quot;the old work&quot; =
+&quot;the old wiki&quot;, that's why I was so puzzled that I couldn't find the old
+wiki in there ... lol
+
+So everything needs to be rewritten.
+
+I can't, of course, do that, I just haven't been around long enough. But
+I am willing to help.
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+<PRE>Le samedi 24 septembre 2011 &#224; 17:12 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I'd like some more information, it isn't very clear to me yet (and I
+</I>&gt;<i> haven't used piratepad before):
+</I>
+Just add you name and write something ;)
+
+&gt;<i> I see 39 lines of text (and spaces), are a lot of those lines links, at
+</I>&gt;<i> this moment? If so, how do you get those links to work?
+</I>
+No, that is the content we have (some missing), and we need to structure
+that (and kept organised).
+
+&gt;<i> Do documents like <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy</A> have
+</I>&gt;<i> to be rewritten, or are they not supposed to be rewritten or is that optional ?
+</I>
+You can rewrite it if you want but there is no obligation for yet.
+
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>
+And this is the structure planned for the new wiki :
+<A HREF="http://piratepad.net/bLrdVM9pGm">http://piratepad.net/bLrdVM9pGm</A>
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+My name is Marja van Waes (marja), I joined the Bug Squad recently and
+am currently helping with the migration of our old documents to the new
+wiki.
+
+One of those documents is the list of registered Bug Squad Members.
+
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage#list_of_registered_people">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage#list_of_registered_people</A>
+
+Are you a member of the team but not on that list? (I'd love to see you
+name on it)
+Do you know of someone else who should be on the list?
+Are you on the list but temporarily unavailable? (no, we won't kick you
+out, but it is good to know)
+Did you volunteer for our team but somehow never manage to start
+triaging? (no, I am not going to strike through your name, I'd only like
+to know so we can think about how to get you started :-) )
+
+Yes, and even if you're still on the list, but left the team because of
+other priorities, please tell us. We'll skip your name reluctantly.
+
+Another question, if there are certain types of bugs that you prefer
+(e.g. if you know a lot about gaming, you might take a special interest
+in related bugs), could you please tell. If everyone agrees I would like
+to replace the old comments by those preferences.
+
+For your convenience, the list as it was when I last looked at it (this
+morning) is printed below.
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+
+
+ 1.
+ Aar&#243;n Mendo Andrade (Drakon) - aaron_mendo AT yahoo DOT com -
+ triaging bug reports
+ 2.
+ Adjamilton J&#250;nior (rox) - ajunior AT brasifort DOT com DOT br -
+ triaging bug reports
+ 3.
+ Andr&#233; Blais (andre999) - andr55 ad laposte dot net - triage bug
+ reports; never done but have followed Mandriva bugteam list, and
+ have reported bugs
+ 4.
+ Arania Jain (Arania) - arania [at] brainabove [dot] com - Bug
+ Triage, Monitoring and Maintenance. Never done an open source
+ project but have done bug management for products in a commercial
+ company.
+ 5.
+ Ashiqur Rahman Angel (Angel) - angel [at] linux [dot] org [dot] bd
+ - Bug Triage
+ 6.
+ Dan-Marian Joita (dan) - djmarian4u AT yahoo DOT com - triage or
+ any other kind of help i can provide (never tried this BTW)
+ 7.
+ Derek Jennings (djenning) - derekjenn AT gmail DOT com - bug triage
+ 8.
+ Duane Phinney (genomega) - genomega [at] earthlink [dot] net -
+ triaging bug reports
+ 9.
+ Florian Hubold (doktor5000) - doktor5000 AT arcor DOT de - help
+ ahmad and st&#233;phane (need a bit training first)
+ 10.
+ Hoyt Duff (wambu) hoytduff AT gmail DOT com - bug triage
+ (contributor to LinuxFormat, Fedora Unleashed)
+ 11.
+ Ireneusz Gierlach (Iro) - irek [dot] gierlach [at] gmail [dot] com
+ - Triaging bug reports.
+ 12.
+ Jean-Claude Stiegler (JC_Stiegler) - jcstiegler [at] free [dot] fr
+ - triaging bug reports
+ 13.
+ John Schneiderman (jadziamd) - johnms [at] member [dot] fsf [dot]
+ org - triaging bug reports
+ 14.
+ Lon Lentz (cthobs) - lon [dot] lentz [at] gmail [dot] com -
+ anything the bug team needs doing
+ 15.
+ Manuel Hiebel (leuhmanu) - manuel [at] hiebel [dot] eu - triaging
+ bu reports
+ 16.
+ Marja van Waes (marja) - marja11 [at] xs4all [dot] nl - learning
+ to triage
+ 17.
+ Olivier Faurax (ofaurax) - olivier &#228;t faurax d&#244;t fr - triagin
+ bugs, never done this before (even if I reported)
+ 18.
+ Remco Rijnders (remmy) - <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">remco at webconquest.com</A> -
+ 19.
+ R&#233;my CLOUARD (shikamaru) - shikamaru AT shikamaru DOT fr -
+ hopefully help ahmad and st&#233;phane (need training first)
+ 20.
+ Roberto Uris Guerra (uris77) - uris77 at gmail dot com - No
+ experience developing distros. Have been using Linux since late
+ 2000. Mandriva is currently my workstation. At work we have
+ Mandriva running on over 30 servers. Experience in
+ Java,Groovy,Grails,Perl,Ruby. Would like to very much to make
+ myself useful since Mandriva is a big part at where I work. Never
+ done this before but I'm willing to help. Bugs are not so nice :D
+ 21.
+ Sandro Cazzaniga - cazzaniga DOT sandro AT gmail DOT com - helping
+ in bug report and want to be useful for mageia so being in
+ bugsquad team !:)
+ 22.
+ Slavcho Andov (IceMan)- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">ice-man-90 at hotmail.com</A> - helping with the
+ bug reports
+ 23.
+ Stefano Negro (stblack) - stblack at gmail DoT com - never done
+ triaging before, but I want to learn and help the team ;)
+ 24.
+ St&#233;phane Flavigny (STEF74)- megastorage AT hotmail DOT fr -
+ triaging bug reports
+ 25.
+ Thierry Vignaud (tv) - thierry.vignaud At gmail DoT com - triaging
+ bug reports
+ 26.
+ Z&#233; (zemo) | ze AT mageia DOT org | bug triage
+
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+<PRE>(Thanks Manuel, for improving what I wrote and thanks Dan for asking for examples.
+
+I'll try to expand and improve this document - maybe even with screenshots - for use in the new wiki.)
+
+Any suggestions (from anybody!) are welcome.
+
+But please don't look at the current triage guide now.
+I don't want you to concentrate on that guide, but I would like you to concentrate on what you know or learned by experience.
+Later on the triage guide can be compared with this document and they can be fused into a guide that contains the best of both :-)
+
+Op 28-09-11 00:33, Manuel Hiebel schreef:
+
+&gt;<i> Le mardi 27 septembre 2011 &#224; 23:08 +0200, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>
+*EASY THINGS TO BEGIN WITH:
+
+*PACKAGE REQUESTS:
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Search bugzilla for package requests that haven't been assigned yet
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;component=New%20RPM%20package%20request">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;component=New%20RPM%20package%20request</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Some requesters forget to give a link to where the software can be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> found.
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If they haven't given a link at all, you can ask them to give the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> upstream link to the package. If they say: it is a Mandriva package,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you can say: not all our packagers are familiar with Mandriva, so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> please give an upstream link.
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> Or they put the link in the description field, which is good,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but the_link should also go in the URL field_. Like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1067">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1067</A> You can copy the link to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the url field, if you want to
+</I>&gt;<i> You can also_complete the field RPM package_, and make an precise summary
+</I>&gt;<i> if that is not enough (like removing: &quot;I'd like to see this package in
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia&quot;
+</I>and replace it
+
+&gt;<i> _with &quot;$name-of-the-package, $a very short description&quot;_
+</I>
+BUGS:
+
+Not all steps ar easy, you can start doing what is easy for you and leave the rest to others.
+No bugs should be assigned to a maintainer before all necessary steps are taken (unless, of course, the maintainer chooses to grab the bug)
+
+
+Step 1
+
+
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Look at the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> new bugs that are reported and use bugzilla to find out whether one is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a_duplicate_ of an existing bug. If you are not used to searching
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bugzilla: play around with it first. And don't forget to try the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> advanced options <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/query.cgi">https://bugs.mageia.org/query.cgi</A> (choose right tab:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> advanced search)
+</I>Step 2a
+
+Dit the reporter give the needed basic information about the Mageia release he uses and what steps to take to reproduce the bug?
+
+ADD:(examples of reports with and without needed info)
+
+
+step 2b (often not so easy, if you don't know how to do it: leave it to others and watch what they do)
+
+Check wether the reporter gave needed backtraces, if he didn't: ask for them and tell him how to get them if he doesn't know
+
+ADD: (examples)
+
+
+Step 3
+
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> If someone has the same version of Mandriva as you and reports a bug
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in a program you are familiar with, you can try to_reproduce_ the bug.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>But often other Mageia users report that they have the same bug, so then they reproduced it.
+
+If it can't be reproduced, than it isn't a bug and the bug should be closed
+(but please tell the user he can find help for his problem on <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/">https://forums.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+
+Step 4
+
+
+&gt;<i> You can also_add a maintainer_ like what I do here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2856">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2856</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_activity.cgi?id=2856">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_activity.cgi?id=2856</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> check the src.rpm:
+</I>&gt;<i> :src claws-mail with sophie (on irc or sophie.zarb.org)
+</I>&gt;<i> or urpmq --sourcerpm claws-mail
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> then search the maintainer:
+</I>&gt;<i> :maint claws-mail
+</I>&gt;<i> or search on the txt list: <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> then search the email of the maintainer: julien on the page
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging#list_of_registered_people">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging#list_of_registered_people</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> or just type the id, sometime it's work (like for misc, tmb,...),
+</I>&gt;<i> sometimes not (like here, there is two id) :)
+</I>OLD BUGS:
+
+&gt;<i> We must check that for all 'old' bug.
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is a saved-search for all bug assigned to bugsquad:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=Bugs%20not%20triaged%20%28excl%20new%20RPM%20requests%29&amp;sharer_id=35">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=Bugs%20not%20triaged%20%28excl%20new%20RPM%20requests%29&amp;sharer_id=35</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>Maybe it would be better to make a starter's Triage guide with yes/ no steps, like this:
+
+10 Open new bug report
+
+20 Is it a package request? If no, goto 130
+
+30 Did the requester give an upstream link for the software? If yes, goto 60
+
+40 Ask for the link
+
+50 Wait till the link is given
+
+60 Did the requester put the link in the url: field? if yes, goto 80
+
+70 Copy the link to the url field
+
+80 Was the rpm package field filled correctly? if yes, goto 100
+
+90 Put the correct name of the package in the package field
+
+100 Is the summary $name-of-the-package, $a very short description If yes, goto 120
+
+110 Change the summary to $name-of-the-package, $a very short description
+
+120 Goto 10
+
+130
+
+and so on
+
+WDYT?
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+<PRE>Op 28-09-11 17:38, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 28 septembre 2011 17:35:39, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe it would be better to make a starter's Triage guide with yes/ no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> steps, like this:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 10 Open new bug report
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 20 Is it a package request? If no, goto 130
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 30 Did the requester give an upstream link for the software? If yes, goto
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 60
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 40 Ask for the link
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 50 Wait till the link is given
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 60 Did the requester put the link in the url: field? if yes, goto 80
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 70 Copy the link to the url field
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 80 Was the rpm package field filled correctly? if yes, goto 100
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 90 Put the correct name of the package in the package field
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 100 Is the summary $name-of-the-package, $a very short description If yes,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> goto 120
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 110 Change the summary to $name-of-the-package, $a very short description
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 120 Goto 10
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 130
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and so on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you do that, a graphical format would be better than pure text I think.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>You are absolutely right. I just don't have the slightest idea how to do that :(
+
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 28 septembre 2011 17:35:39, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Maybe it would be better to make a starter's Triage guide with yes/ no
+</I>&gt;<i> steps, like this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 10 Open new bug report
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 20 Is it a package request? If no, goto 130
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 30 Did the requester give an upstream link for the software? If yes, goto
+</I>&gt;<i> 60
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 40 Ask for the link
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 50 Wait till the link is given
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 60 Did the requester put the link in the url: field? if yes, goto 80
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 70 Copy the link to the url field
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 80 Was the rpm package field filled correctly? if yes, goto 100
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 90 Put the correct name of the package in the package field
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 100 Is the summary $name-of-the-package, $a very short description If yes,
+</I>&gt;<i> goto 120
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 110 Change the summary to $name-of-the-package, $a very short description
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 120 Goto 10
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 130
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and so on
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+If you do that, a graphical format would be better than pure text I think.
+
+Samuel
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+<PRE>Op 28-09-11 17:44, Marja van Waes schreef:
+&gt;<i> Op 28-09-11 17:38, Samuel Verschelde schreef:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you do that, a graphical format would be better than pure text I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> think.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You are absolutely right. I just don't have the slightest idea how to
+</I>&gt;<i> do that :(
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I just heard that what I thought Samuel meant, is called a flowchart.
+And when I google: '&quot;flowchart tool&quot; &quot;open source&quot; linux', there are
+more than 7,000 hits :)
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+Andre999 gave me some good tips on how to make our Triage Guide easier
+to read, without changing the content:
+
+****************************************************************************
+
+After &quot;OK, it is a duplicate, what should be done?&quot;
+(One could say &quot;OK, it is a duplicate, what next?&quot;)
+----
+&quot;Since the bug is a duplicate of a previous report, you should set the
+status of the bug to
+&lt;code&gt;RESOLVED DUPLICATE&lt;/code&gt;
+with the appropriate bug number.
+This will usually be the only action required.
+If the fact that the bug is a duplicate ...&quot;
+----
+
+- Any text that is to entered by the user should be between
+&lt;code&gt;...&lt;/code&gt;.
+This will make it appear on a separate line, and always monospaced (so
+as to be very readable), even if the other text is proportional.
+(This is also used for computer code, hence the name.)
+
+- Frequently starting a new sentence on a new line makes it easier to
+follow a somewhat complex line of thought.
+- Using bullets a little more consistently should help as well.
+- Point form is much clearer than amorphous paragraphs.
+
+But as I said above, the content seems very well thought out, it is only
+the presentation that could use a little enhancement.
+
+Don't forget: documenting is more an art than a science, so don't be
+afraid to use a little imagination in your presentation. And practice a
+lot.
+
+BTW, in programming we learn what is called &quot;prettyprint&quot; in English.
+Basically the above principles, for internal documentation of program code.
+(Judging by external documentation, you can see that some programmers
+learn a little better than others.:) )
+
+************************************************************************************************************
+
+The code tags don't need to be converted, in the new wiki they are the
+same as in the old one. If no one opposes, I'd like to start replacing
+the &quot;strong&quot; tags for words like &quot;RESOLVED INVALID&quot; &quot;NEEDINFO&quot; etc. with
+code tags.
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+
+
+
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Samuel Verschelde
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+<I>Samuel Verschelde
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+<I>Thierry Vignaud
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+<LI><A HREF="000019.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Backports process (addendum to policy)
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+<I>Samuel Verschelde
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+<LI><A HREF="000021.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Backports process (addendum to policy)
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+<I>Samuel Verschelde
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki strusctre
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000021.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Backports process (addendum to policy)
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+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000019.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Backports process (addendum to policy)
+</A><A NAME="19">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
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+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bug Squad Members
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Documentation team
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
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+<LI><A HREF="000029.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Documentation team
+</A><A NAME="29">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000017.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] drakx-installer rpms
+</A><A NAME="17">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000018.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] drakx-installer rpms
+</A><A NAME="18">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
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+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] How To Triage (Re: Bug Squad Members Dan-Marian, Joi&#355;a)
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000027.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Maintainers list
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+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Making the triage guide easier to read
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Triage in yes/no steps
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Triage in yes/no steps
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+<I>Samuel Verschelde
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+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Triage in yes/no steps
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000022.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Update candidates waiting for packager input
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+<LI><A HREF="000023.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Update candidates waiting for packager input
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Update candidates waiting for packager input
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+<LI><A HREF="000020.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Weekly report about security bugs
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+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki structure
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000030.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki strusctre
+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000019.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Backports process (addendum to policy)
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+<I>Samuel Verschelde
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+<LI><A HREF="000021.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Backports process (addendum to policy)
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+<I>Samuel Verschelde
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+<LI><A HREF="000020.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Weekly report about security bugs
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+<I>Samuel Verschelde
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+<LI><A HREF="000023.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Update candidates waiting for packager input
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Wiki struscture
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20Change%20the%20version%20of%20cauldron%20bugs%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4F9991A3.4060300%40hiebel.eu%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] Change the version of cauldron bugs ?">manuel at hiebel.eu
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+<PRE>Hello there,
+
+I was thinking, what about change the version of &quot;cauldron&quot; bugs to 2
+after the release ?
+
+Of course we can add some exceptions like:
+- the enhancement severity
+- the low priority
+- the Installer and Release media component
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=version:cauldron+-sev:enh+-prio:low+-comp:install+-comp:release">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=version:cauldron+-sev:enh+-prio:low+-comp:install+-comp:release</A>
+
+So this is for now 575 bugs, and I guess it will be less than that we I
+plan do to that.
+(the list still needs some cleaning)
+
+Then we can also add a comment, that this is an automatic change and if
+it was done wrong, we ask people to revert the change.
+
+What do you think ?
+
+(We could also make something like that for the End of life support of
+Mageia 1 in 8-9 months)
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20Change%20the%20version%20of%20cauldron%20bugs%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4F99A260.7000001%40xs4all.nl%3E"
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+<PRE>On 26/04/12 20:19, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was thinking, what about change the version of &quot;cauldron&quot; bugs to 2
+</I>&gt;<i> after the release ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course we can add some exceptions like:
+</I>&gt;<i> - the enhancement severity
+</I>&gt;<i> - the low priority
+</I>&gt;<i> - the Installer and Release media component
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=version:cauldron+-sev:enh+-prio:low+-comp:install+-comp:release">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=version:cauldron+-sev:enh+-prio:low+-comp:install+-comp:release</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So this is for now 575 bugs, and I guess it will be less than that we I
+</I>&gt;<i> plan do to that.
+</I>&gt;<i> (the list still needs some cleaning)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then we can also add a comment, that this is an automatic change and if
+</I>&gt;<i> it was done wrong, we ask people to revert the change.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+For me it would be very confusing.
+
+To me it seems better to ask whether the bug is still valid in Mageia 2
+stable, or in current cauldron (from after Mageia 2 release).
+
+
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 26 avril 2012 20:19:15, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was thinking, what about change the version of &quot;cauldron&quot; bugs to 2
+</I>&gt;<i> after the release ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course we can add some exceptions like:
+</I>&gt;<i> - the enhancement severity
+</I>&gt;<i> - the low priority
+</I>&gt;<i> - the Installer and Release media component
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=version:cauldron+-sev:enh+-">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=version:cauldron+-sev:enh+-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> prio:low+-comp:install+-comp:release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So this is for now 575 bugs, and I guess it will be less than that we I
+</I>&gt;<i> plan do to that.
+</I>&gt;<i> (the list still needs some cleaning)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then we can also add a comment, that this is an automatic change and if
+</I>&gt;<i> it was done wrong, we ask people to revert the change.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (We could also make something like that for the End of life support of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1 in 8-9 months)
+</I>
+Any bug reported against cauldron should be either still valid in Mageia 2 and
+therefore fixed by updates, or not valid anymore, so I quite agree. I see
+exceptions, for example bugs in the installer or LiveCDs, unless we release
+updated ISOs for Mageia 2 in a few months. The main problem is that we lose
+information about the bug's validity in cauldron. Last time we discussed it on
+this mailing list, IIRC the conclusion was that we needed to be able to set
+several releases for the same bug and that a bugzilla update would allow it.
+Another option would be duplicate every bug for Mageia 2, and link it to the
+cauldron bug (I guess it's quite safe to decide that the Mageia 2 bug must be
+blocked by the cauldron bug). It would be my preferred way in fact.
+
+But I think this must be discussed with other packagers too.
+
+Also, it would be good to have a report about open bugs in cauldron, per
+component or package or group of packages, in a synthetic view, so that we can
+have an idea of the quality of the distribution that is to be released (and a
+report about Mageia 1 too to see how much bugs we fixed, how much we didn't
+fix, what components have the biggest amount of open bugs, still in a
+synthetic view... I know, I ask for a lot, and maybe in a few years I will do
+it myself :))
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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+<PRE>On 26/04/12 22:14, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 26 avril 2012 20:19:15, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was thinking, what about change the version of &quot;cauldron&quot; bugs to 2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> after the release ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Of course we can add some exceptions like:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - the enhancement severity
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - the low priority
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - the Installer and Release media component
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=version:cauldron+-sev:enh+-">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=version:cauldron+-sev:enh+-</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> prio:low+-comp:install+-comp:release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So this is for now 575 bugs, and I guess it will be less than that we I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> plan do to that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (the list still needs some cleaning)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Then we can also add a comment, that this is an automatic change and if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it was done wrong, we ask people to revert the change.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What do you think ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (We could also make something like that for the End of life support of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 1 in 8-9 months)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any bug reported against cauldron should be either still valid in Mageia 2 and
+</I>&gt;<i> therefore fixed by updates, or not valid anymore, so I quite agree. I see
+</I>&gt;<i> exceptions, for example bugs in the installer or LiveCDs, unless we release
+</I>&gt;<i> updated ISOs for Mageia 2 in a few months. The main problem is that we lose
+</I>&gt;<i> information about the bug's validity in cauldron.
+</I>
+Another main problem is we don't know whether they're still valid or
+not. We don't ask reporters every month whether the issue is still
+there. We ping bugs after 3 months, if nothing happened to the report,
+but if I don't have time to check whether there is a possibility the bug
+got fixed, I usually don't ask whether it is still valid.
+
+For me it would be confusing if all cauldron bugs were set to be Mageia
+2 stable bugs (too), because when I see that I expect that at least one
+person reported the bug was valid for mageia 2 stable.
+
+Of course, for bugs that were filed recently, that will often be the
+case, but many cauldron bugs were not filed that recently, some date
+from before mageia 1 release, many from 2 alpha.
+
+
+&gt;<i> Last time we discussed it on
+</I>&gt;<i> this mailing list, IIRC the conclusion was that we needed to be able to set
+</I>&gt;<i> several releases for the same bug and that a bugzilla update would allow it.
+</I>&gt;<i> Another option would be duplicate every bug for Mageia 2, and link it to the
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron bug (I guess it's quite safe to decide that the Mageia 2 bug must be
+</I>&gt;<i> blocked by the cauldron bug). It would be my preferred way in fact.
+</I>
+
+I agree, if their validity is checked first.
+
+I'd like to see that the moment 2 stable is released, all cauldron bugs
+are pinged and all reporters/commenters are asked to clone the bug for
+Mageia 2 if it is valid for stable, and set it to depend on the original
+bug. If it isn't valid for stable, it most probably can't be valid for
+cauldron anymore, so it would be safe to close them as old.
+
+I think we'll end up closing a lot of cauldron bugs :)
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But I think this must be discussed with other packagers too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, it would be good to have a report about open bugs in cauldron, per
+</I>&gt;<i> component or package or group of packages, in a synthetic view, so that we can
+</I>&gt;<i> have an idea of the quality of the distribution that is to be released (and a
+</I>&gt;<i> report about Mageia 1 too to see how much bugs we fixed, how much we didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> fix, what components have the biggest amount of open bugs, still in a
+</I>&gt;<i> synthetic view... I know, I ask for a lot, and maybe in a few years I will do
+</I>&gt;<i> it myself :))
+</I>
+
+Can you point me to an example of a report in a synthetic view?
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
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+
+Le 28/04/2012 12:16, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 26/04/12 22:14, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le jeudi 26 avril 2012 20:19:15, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any bug reported against cauldron should be either still valid in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 2 and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> therefore fixed by updates, or not valid anymore, so I quite agree. I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> see
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> exceptions, for example bugs in the installer or LiveCDs, unless we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> updated ISOs for Mageia 2 in a few months.
+</I>That's why I have added some exceptions in my bug list.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> The main problem is that we lose
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> information about the bug's validity in cauldron.
+</I>Indeed
+&gt;<i> Another main problem is we don't know whether they're still valid or
+</I>&gt;<i> not. We don't ask reporters every month whether the issue is still
+</I>&gt;<i> there. We ping bugs after 3 months, if nothing happened to the report,
+</I>&gt;<i> but if I don't have time to check whether there is a possibility the
+</I>&gt;<i> bug got fixed, I usually don't ask whether it is still valid.
+</I>
+We could ask at the same time of the change.
+I guess in the future this method will be hard to keep no ? (ping after
+3 months of inactivity)
+That's why, I proposed to close only at the End of Life of the release
+all bugs of the unsupported version, and ask people to upgrade and
+reopen if still valid (fedora do that iirc).
+
+&gt;<i> For me it would be confusing if all cauldron bugs were set to be
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2 stable bugs (too), because when I see that I expect that at
+</I>&gt;<i> least one person reported the bug was valid for mageia 2 stable.
+</I>Indeed, if people don't close bugs after our request it can make false
+positive.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, for bugs that were filed recently, that will often be the
+</I>&gt;<i> case, but many cauldron bugs were not filed that recently, some date
+</I>&gt;<i> from before mageia 1 release, many from 2 alpha.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Last time we discussed it on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this mailing list, IIRC the conclusion was that we needed to be able
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to set
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> several releases for the same bug and that a bugzilla update would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> allow it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Another option would be duplicate every bug for Mageia 2, and link it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cauldron bug (I guess it's quite safe to decide that the Mageia 2 bug
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> must be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> blocked by the cauldron bug). It would be my preferred way in fact.
+</I>I have searched on this ml or on -dev an found nothing. :/
+What was the topic ?
+
+For the duplicate bugs, why not but it seems hard to manage.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree, if their validity is checked first.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to see that the moment 2 stable is released, all cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> bugs are pinged and all reporters/commenters are asked to clone the
+</I>&gt;<i> bug for Mageia 2 if it is valid for stable, and set it to depend on
+</I>&gt;<i> the original bug. If it isn't valid for stable, it most probably can't
+</I>&gt;<i> be valid for cauldron anymore, so it would be safe to close them as old.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think we'll end up closing a lot of cauldron bugs :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But I think this must be discussed with other packagers too.
+</I>Yep, but better have something where the bugsquad is agree. :)
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also, it would be good to have a report about open bugs in cauldron, per
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> component or package or group of packages, in a synthetic view, so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that we can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have an idea of the quality of the distribution that is to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> released (and a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> report about Mageia 1 too to see how much bugs we fixed, how much we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> didn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fix, what components have the biggest amount of open bugs, still in a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> synthetic view... I know, I ask for a lot, and maybe in a few years I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it myself :))
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you point me to an example of a report in a synthetic view?
+</I>Something like that ?
+
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+
+Graphiz was installed on the bugzilla, but not the function to make
+report against the time.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde
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+ I'm a System Admin from MI, USA. For work I have always had to use
+RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively. I started
+running Mageia w/KDE on my personal/home laptop starting with MGA 2 Beta
+2. This laptop currently runs Mageia 3 Cauldron only.
+ I saw that you were asking for help on the Bug-Sqaud and I'm more
+than willing to help. The only issue is I don't plan on Running MGA2,
+and I don't know if your looking for Cauldron users. I read the wiki
+and didn't really get a clear answer. I have been submitting bug
+reports via bugzilla for Cauldron for some time and will continue to do so.
+
+Let me know if I can help in this capacity.
+
+Best Regards,
+
+Digigold
+--
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+
+ /&quot;A mind that is stretched by a new experience can never go back
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+On 05/08/2012 14:58, Digigold wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hey Folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm a System Admin from MI, USA. For work I have always had to
+</I>&gt;<i> use RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively. I
+</I>&gt;<i> started running Mageia w/KDE on my personal/home laptop starting
+</I>&gt;<i> with MGA 2 Beta 2. This laptop currently runs Mageia 3 Cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> only. I saw that you were asking for help on the Bug-Sqaud and I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> more than willing to help. The only issue is I don't plan on
+</I>&gt;<i> Running MGA2, and I don't know if your looking for Cauldron users.
+</I>&gt;<i> I read the wiki and didn't really get a clear answer. I have been
+</I>&gt;<i> submitting bug reports via bugzilla for Cauldron for some time and
+</I>&gt;<i> will continue to do so.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Let me know if I can help in this capacity.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Digigold
+</I>
+
+
+We have lots of bugs against cauldron, so your help is more than
+welcome, and so are you :)
+
+I don't know what you would like to do most. We lack people who have
+time to check whether they can reproduce bugs and dig into them a bit
+deeper. Lack of time leads us to skip a lot we should do according to
+our own documentation.
+
+Also, I'm currently closing many pre-Mageia2final cauldron bugs,
+because no one confirmed they are still valid in Mageia 2 and/or
+current cauldron. It is very well possible that I close too many of
+them. If you want to go over the &quot;RESOLVED - OLD&quot; cauldron bugs to see
+whether there are bugs you know are still valid, then please don't
+hesitate to reopen those and comment the problem still exists.
+
+If you have other ideas about how to contribute to BugSquad, don't
+hesitate to say so :-D
+
+Do you mind joining #mageia-bugsquad on IRC (Freenode) when you start?
+
+Thanks a lot and welcome again :)
+Marja
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+<PRE>Le 05/08/2012 14:58, Digigold a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hey Folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm a System Admin from MI, USA. For work I have always had to use
+</I>&gt;<i> RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively. I started
+</I>&gt;<i> running Mageia w/KDE on my personal/home laptop starting with MGA 2
+</I>&gt;<i> Beta 2. This laptop currently runs Mageia 3 Cauldron only.
+</I>&gt;<i> I saw that you were asking for help on the Bug-Sqaud and I'm more
+</I>&gt;<i> than willing to help. The only issue is I don't plan on Running MGA2,
+</I>&gt;<i> and I don't know if your looking for Cauldron users. I read the wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> and didn't really get a clear answer. I have been submitting bug
+</I>&gt;<i> reports via bugzilla for Cauldron for some time and will continue to
+</I>&gt;<i> do so.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Let me know if I can help in this capacity.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Digigold
+</I>Hello and welcome !
+
+Of course we need cauldron users, you can bring more info on a
+bug,reproduce them or not, have a global view of what is problematic,
+speak quickly with devs about the things that happen, etc.
+
+Personnaly I still use Mga1 (and sometimes Mga2/cauldron), so indeed,
+all users can help to make a great distro, and it's also the case for
+the bugsquad team.
+
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+<PRE>Le 02/12/2012 01:11, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Mageia 1 is now EOL.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BS is locked down and updates_testing wiped.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Blog post pushed and mail sent to updates-announce ML.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+Oh thanks so I will close (before this evening) the mga1 bugs as said
+previously.
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Maintenance_of_bug_reports#End_of_life_.28EOL.29_Release">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Maintenance_of_bug_reports#End_of_life_.28EOL.29_Release</A>
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+And bye Mageia 1, thanks for these 23 months on my laptop.
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+Hello,
+
+A few days ago I installed Mageia and I like it so far,
+I have read that some teams need some help,
+Now I think this team can be something for me.
+
+So I wonder if this team need some help?
+I have not any experience in bug traiging so I hope someone can learn it to me.
+
+Roelof
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+ <B>Claire Robinson</B>
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+<PRE>On 21/12/12 12:09, Roelof Wobben wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A few days ago I installed Mageia and I like it so far,
+</I>&gt;<i> I have read that some teams need some help,
+</I>&gt;<i> Now I think this team can be something for me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I wonder if this team need some help?
+</I>&gt;<i> I have not any experience in bug traiging so I hope someone can learn it to me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Roelof
+</I>
+Hi Roelof
+
+It definitely does need more people, if you can help then that would be
+great!
+
+Manuel or Marja will be able to help you out and probably point you to
+some wiki pages too.
+
+Welcome to the team :)
+
+
+Claire (MrsB)
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+On 21/12/12 14:25, Claire Robinson wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 21/12/12 12:09, Roelof Wobben wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A few days ago I installed Mageia and I like it so far, I have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> read that some teams need some help, Now I think this team can be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something for me.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I wonder if this team need some help? I have not any
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> experience in bug traiging so I hope someone can learn it to me.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Roelof
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Roelof
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It definitely does need more people, if you can help then that
+</I>&gt;<i> would be great!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Manuel or Marja will be able to help you out and probably point you
+</I>&gt;<i> to some wiki pages too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Welcome to the team :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Claire (MrsB)
+</I>
+Welcome to Mageia, Roelof :-D
+
+Yes, bugsquad could surely use some more hands.
+
+The first thing to read would be
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/How_to_start_triaging">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/How_to_start_triaging</A>
+
+The first lines are very important. Unfortunately we have had several
+people joining bug squad who were very enthousiastic at first, but
+then became quiet and silently left without really having done anything.
+We want you to be a happy Bug Squad member, not one who feels like
+hiding and leaving.
+
+If after reading
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/How_to_start_triaging#Who%20can%20learn%20to%20triage%20bug%20reports?">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/How_to_start_triaging#Who%20can%20learn%20to%20triage%20bug%20reports?</A>
+you change your mind about joining Bug Squad: no problem. There are
+still many teams you can help.
+
+If after reading that you would still like to join Bug Squad, then:
+welcome to Bug Squad :-D
+
+Please read the links in the above page and join #mageia-bugsquad on IRC
+
+Our team page is here:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad</A>
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+Hi Roelof :)
+
+2012:12:21:18:54 &lt; roelof&gt; ben weer terug voor 15 minuten
+2012:12:21:18:54 &lt; roelof&gt; is dat genoeg om mij de eerste beginselen
+van de triage te leren ?
+2012:12:21:19:14 &lt; roelof&gt; ik moet weg, kom morgenvroeg wel terug
+
+(Roelof said there that he had 15 minutes time, and asked whether that
+would be enough to learn the first principles of triaging)
+
+Roelof, since you don't have much experience with rpm-based distro's,
+I think the best thing you can do now is:
+
+Sign up for the bugzilla mails
+<A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/bugs">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/bugs</A>
+
+(don't forget to let your mailbox filter them to their own bugzilla
+folder, or you won't find your other mails anymore among the many
+bugzilla mails)
+
+and then just read the ones that have your interest and click on the
+link to read the entire bug report.
+
+Keep an eye on those reports and see what happens to them. Try to
+reproduce bugs if, apart from the reporter, no one reported the bug.
+
+Since you have used many different distro's, you're probably used to
+their forums and bug-trackers. If someone reports a bug and you find
+the same bug exists in, for instance, Open Suse, it would be good to
+say that in the bug report and give a link to the related OpenSuse post.
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
+
+
+
+
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+On 22/12/12 13:16, Roelof Wobben wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>Is het nog wel de bedoeling dat ik de bugs die ik bekeken heb, de
+keyword op triaged zet.Of is er een andere manier om hierna te kijken.
+Roelof
+
+Roelof asks whether he should use the Triaged keyword when he finishes
+triaging a bug.
+
+@ Roelof
+
+When you are sure the bug is valid and complete and no duplicate, you
+can set the &quot;Triaged&quot; keyword and assign it to the maintainer of the
+package, or cc the committers when there is no maintainer.
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
+
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+ <B>Remco Rijnders</B>
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+
+Welcome to Mageia, and welcome aboard the bugsquad! I hope you'll enjoy
+working with both :-)
+
+In addition to the pointers you were already given by Marja and others,
+I'd like to chip in with &quot;bugs handling&quot; the Remmy way.
+
+Depending on my time available, energy, and other interests in life I
+usually use one of the following two modes:
+
+1) Read everything that comes in on the bugzilla mail list and pick up
+that which I feel I can triage properly or help triage. I usually do this
+during holidays, or when sick at home for a few days... Unfortunately, the
+volume of bugzilla mails coming in is so great that once you slip a few
+days it is almost impossible to get catched up. My trick for getting
+catched up is &quot;mark all as read&quot; and start afresh. Hopefully others on the
+team will have had time to look into these reports, and if not, they will
+surface when executing mode 2.
+
+For any bug reports that I have an active interest in myself, I add myself
+to the Cc list. That way I will get any updates on them, even when I am
+getting backlogged on reading the bugzilla mails themselves. The latter go
+to a seperate folder automatically, the bugs where I am Cc'ed on go to my
+regular inbox.
+
+2) I like (love) saved searches in bugzilla. I find it very handy to ask
+bugzilla: &quot;Please show me all the new bugs of the past 2 days&quot;, &quot;Show me
+all open bugs having no action for the last xx days&quot;, &quot;Show all bugs
+assigned to bugsquad&quot;, etc. They enable me to quickly take actions on bugs
+that need action and in which I have an interest. You can do one or two
+whenever you have a few free moments to spare.
+
+What I think is important to keep in mind is that unfortunately there is
+more work to be done on triaging than any of us currently have time
+available. As such, any help is appreciated and you don't have to feel
+guilty about &quot;not doing enough&quot;. All little bits help.
+
+On the &quot;triaged&quot; keyword, I normally do not bother. Once a bug has been
+assigned to the proper maintainer, I feel that's usually where my
+involvement ends or should end. Only for cases where we can't assign the
+bug to a maintainer, but there is little more we can do at this point (for
+example, it's a bug in the upstream code of the program itself, and not a
+bug in the Mageia packaging of that program) do I think that adding that
+keyword is of some added value.
+
+Thanks for joining, and hope to talk to you online some time :-)
+
+Kind regards,
+
+Remmy
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+Hello, What's the best way to take care of this bug.In my opinion the TS breaks his own system and blaims us for breaking. bug url : <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8480">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8480</A> Roelof
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+On 23/12/12 17:16, Roelof Wobben wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello, What's the best way to take care of this bug.In my opinion
+</I>&gt;<i> the TS breaks his own system and blaims us for breaking. bug url :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8480">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8480</A> Roelof
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think what you did, trying to reproduce and asking Thierry for help,
+was the good thing to do.
+
+In doubt, it is always good to ask the maintainer or committer(s) of
+the involved package.
+
+By the way, it does happen that we think a bug is valid and assign a
+bug to a maintainer, but that the bug turns out to be in another
+package than we thought, or that is is user error after all.
+
+Don't get discouraged if that happens to you: it happens to all of us.
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+Hi Roelof,
+
+2012:12:28:10:49 &lt; roelof&gt; With this bug :
+ <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8527">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8527</A>
+2012:12:28:10:49 &lt; [mbot&gt; Bug 8527: normal, Normal, bugsquad, bugsquad,
+ NEW, kde fails to notify inserted usb/sd
+2012:12:28:10:49 &lt; roelof&gt; Which package can it be so I can fill in the
+ bug report completly
+
+2012:12:28:11:22 &lt; roelof&gt; marja9: Can you help me ?
+2012:12:28:11:33 -!- roelof [~<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">roelof at 524A811F.cm-4-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl</A>]
+ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
+
+Sorry that I missed that :/
+
+I think you did well :)
+
+If you want to do even more, you can also try wether the problem only
+occurs in KDE, or also in GNOME or LXDE or another DE
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+On 28/12/2012 12:14, Marja van Waes wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to do even more, you can also try wether the problem
+</I>&gt;<i> only occurs in KDE, or also in GNOME or LXDE or another DE
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+One other DE is enough... this is about whether it is specific for KDE
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+ <ul>
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+<LI><A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000192.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000193.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] een paar vraagjes Mageai
+</A><A NAME="194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] bug 8480
+</A><A NAME="197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] bug 8527
+</A><A NAME="198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] bug 8527
+</A><A NAME="199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Roelof Wobben
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] bug 8480
+</A><A NAME="196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Roelof Wobben
+</I>
+
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Roelof Wobben
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000192.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000193.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] een paar vraagjes Mageai
+</A><A NAME="194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] bug 8480
+</A><A NAME="196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Roelof Wobben
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] bug 8480
+</A><A NAME="197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] bug 8527
+</A><A NAME="198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] bug 8527
+</A><A NAME="199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
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+<LI><A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] bug 8480
+</A><A NAME="196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Roelof Wobben
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] bug 8480
+</A><A NAME="197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] bug 8527
+</A><A NAME="198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] bug 8527
+</A><A NAME="199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] een paar vraagjes Mageai
+</A><A NAME="194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Roelof Wobben
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000192.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000193.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Dec 2 11:57:01 CET 2012</i><br>
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+<!--0 01354445821- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000189.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356091775- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000190.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Roelof Wobben
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356091775-01356096345- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356091775-01356096345-01356099466- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000192.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356091775-01356096345-01356099466-01356115874- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000193.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356091775-01356096345-01356099466-01356115874-01356254272- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000195.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Still need some help
+</A><A NAME="195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
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+
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+<!--0 01356186084- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000194.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] een paar vraagjes Mageai
+</A><A NAME="194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356279417- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000196.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] bug 8480
+</A><A NAME="196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Roelof Wobben
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356279417-01356348031- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000197.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] bug 8480
+</A><A NAME="197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356693295- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000198.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] bug 8527
+</A><A NAME="198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356693295-01356693816- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000199.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] bug 8527
+</A><A NAME="199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed">marja11 at xs4all.nl
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+If anyone of you can spare some extra time for a bugsquad job, please reply.
+
+Last week I was chosen to do more for the documentation team, and since
+I haven't found a way yet to clone myself yet, that means I'll be doing
+less for Bug Squad :-(
+
+We could use some help on the maintenance of bug reports.
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Maintenance_of_bug_reports">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Maintenance_of_bug_reports</A>
+
+At the botom of the page are links to three bugzilla searches.
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Maintenance_of_bug_reports#Tools_and_how_to_use_them">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Maintenance_of_bug_reports#Tools_and_how_to_use_them</A>
+
+Don't feel you shouldn't help if you don't understand it all, that is
+normal. Just ask whatever questions you may have.
+
+It would be great if one or more persons would be willing to do one or
+more of those searches regularly and handle the resulting bug reports :-)
+
+If you'd rather have more challenge, that is fine, too. Go to the Bug
+Squad portal to find links to all our documentation about our tasks.
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad_Portal">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad_Portal</A>
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+
+
+
+</PRE>
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+I'm sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.
+&#160;
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+<PRE>On 22/02/12 21:33, Dj Marian wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a
+</I>&gt;<i> lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.
+</I>&gt;<i> Respectfully,
+</I>&gt;<i> Dan-Marian, Joi&#355;a.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hi Dan,
+
+Good to hear from you again :)
+
+Do you have time to help with something easier?
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+
+
+
+
+
+
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+ <B>josemar1992 at gmail.com</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20Mageia-bugsquad%20Digest%2C%20Vol%2010%2C%20Issue%202&In-Reply-To=%3Ce89a8f235505e264ff04b9a06357%40google.com%3E"
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+<PRE>&quot;&quot;Do you have time to help with something easier?&quot;&quot;
+
+Yes, i do!
+
+
+
+El , <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad-request at mageia.org</A> escribi&#243;:
+&gt;<i> Send Mageia-bugsquad mailing list submissions to
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
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+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad-request at mageia.org</A>
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> You can reach the person managing the list at
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad-owner at mageia.org</A>
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-bugsquad digest...&quot;
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> Today's Topics:
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> 1. Re: your help is needed (Dj Marian)
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> 2. Re: your help is needed (Marja van Waes)
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> Message: 1
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:33:06 -0800 (PST)
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> From: Dj Marian <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">djmarian4u at yahoo.com</A>&gt;
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> To: &quot;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>&quot; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> Message-ID:
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">1329942786.22168.YahooMailNeo at web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com</A>&gt;
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> I'm sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a lack
+</I>&gt;<i> of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> ?
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> Respectfully,
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> Dan-Marian, Joi?a.
+</I>
+
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+&gt;<i> ------------------------------
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> Message: 2
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:26:10 +0100
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> From: Marja van Waes <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> Message-ID: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">4F455D72.10505 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> On 22/02/12 21:33, Dj Marian wrote:
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; I'm sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Respectfully,
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Dan-Marian, Joi?a.
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> Hi Dan,
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> Good to hear from you again :)
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> Do you have time to help with something easier?
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> ------------------------------
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>
+
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+
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+
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+ <B>Luzem&#225;rio</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20Mageia-bugsquad%20Digest%2C%20Vol%2010%2C%20Issue%202&In-Reply-To=%3CCAPjA0%3DJha2f8taac1HEaxu6XVW746hSTQSQ_-80%3DE82WSPZc7w%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+ <I>Thu Feb 23 14:02:42 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi, guys!!
+
+I have little time to help, but I still keep an eye on Mageia and other eye
+to do other tasks (it makes me really owl eyes :)
+
+I will help as I can.
+
+Luzem&#225;rio Dantas
+
+(61) 8496-5515 (Oi)
+(61) 9322-7017 (Claro)
+(61) 8118-8199 (Tim)
+(61) 9653-1004 (Vivo)
+(61) 4063-6366 (Vono)
+
+
+
+2012/2/23 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad-request at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Send Mageia-bugsquad mailing list submissions to
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad-request at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can reach the person managing the list at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad-owner at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
+</I>&gt;<i> than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-bugsquad digest...&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Today's Topics:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Re: your help is needed (Dj Marian)
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Re: your help is needed (Marja van Waes)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:33:06 -0800 (PST)
+</I>&gt;<i> From: Dj Marian &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">djmarian4u at yahoo.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: &quot;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID:
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">1329942786.22168.YahooMailNeo at web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a lack of
+</I>&gt;<i> knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.
+</I>&gt;<i> ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Respectfully,
+</I>&gt;<i> Dan-Marian, Joi?a.
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+</I>&gt;<i> ------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 2
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:26:10 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> From: Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">4F455D72.10505 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 22/02/12 21:33, Dj Marian wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Respectfully,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Dan-Marian, Joi?a.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Dan,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good to hear from you again :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you have time to help with something easier?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20Mageia-bugsquad%20Digest%2C%20Vol%2010%2C%20Issue%202&In-Reply-To=%3C4F463C85.7010700%40xs4all.nl%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia-bugsquad Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2">marja11 at xs4all.nl
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+<PRE>Hi Jos&#233;mar
+
+Thanks, see you monday then :)
+
+Marja
+
+
+On 23/02/12 14:07, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">josemar1992 at gmail.com</A> wrote:
+&gt;<i> My name is Jos&#233; Mar&#237;a but you can write Josemar o Jos&#233;.
+</I>&gt;<i> Now i can&#180;t go to irc. i&#180;ll go next week
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i'll see you on monday. Thank you!!!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> El , Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; escribi&#243;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi Josemar (is your name Jos&#233;?)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Great that you want to help, muchas gracias :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Can you please come to <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-bugsquad">irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-bugsquad</A> ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I look forward to meeting you there :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (There is a possibility that I, and/or the others, are busy with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; job, study or other duties and can't reply fast. Please do not feel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; neglected if that happens, we'll respond later)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Meanwhile, if you know how to edit a page in the wiki, please add
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; yourself to the list here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad#Team_members">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad#Team_members</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Marja
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 23/02/12 13:00, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">josemar1992 at gmail.com</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;&quot;Do you have time to help with something easier?&quot;&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yes, i do!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; El , <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad-request at mageia.org</A> escribi&#243;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Send Mageia-bugsquad mailing list submissions to
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-bugsquad digest...&quot;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Today's Topics:
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 1. Re: your help is needed (Dj Marian)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 2. Re: your help is needed (Marja van Waes)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:33:06 -0800 (PST)
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; From: Dj Marian <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">djmarian4u at yahoo.com</A>&gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">1329942786.22168.YahooMailNeo at web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com</A>&gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I'm sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in a lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; submit.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Respectfully,
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:26:10 +0100
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; From: Marja van Waes <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On 22/02/12 21:33, Dj Marian wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; I'm sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; still in a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; submit.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Respectfully,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Dan-Marian, Joi?a.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi Dan,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Good to hear from you again :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Do you have time to help with something easier?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Marja
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+ <I>Thu Feb 23 14:27:15 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi Luzem&#225;rio,
+
+Every help is welcome, little help is much better than no help :)
+
+When you have a little time, can you please come to irc then?
+<A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-bugsquad">irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-bugsquad</A>
+
+It would be great to meet you there, and when you have a little bit of
+time, it would be more easy, when you're there, to talk about what you
+can do :)
+
+Don't get discouraged if you say something on IRC, and we are very slow
+to respond. In that case, job, study or another task keeps us from
+replying and we'll reply later.
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
+
+
+On 23/02/12 14:02, Luzem&#225;rio wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi, guys!!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have little time to help, but I still keep an eye on Mageia and
+</I>&gt;<i> other eye to do other tasks (it makes me really owl eyes :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I will help as I can.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Luzem&#225;rio Dantas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (61) 8496-5515 (Oi)
+</I>&gt;<i> (61) 9322-7017 (Claro)
+</I>&gt;<i> (61) 8118-8199 (Tim)
+</I>&gt;<i> (61) 9653-1004 (Vivo)
+</I>&gt;<i> (61) 4063-6366 (Vono)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/2/23 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad-request at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad-request at mageia.org</A>&gt;&gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
+</I>&gt;<i> than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-bugsquad digest...&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Today's Topics:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Re: your help is needed (Dj Marian)
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Re: your help is needed (Marja van Waes)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:33:06 -0800 (PST)
+</I>&gt;<i> From: Dj Marian &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">djmarian4u at yahoo.com</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">djmarian4u at yahoo.com</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: &quot;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>&gt;&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID:
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">1329942786.22168.YahooMailNeo at web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">1329942786.22168.YahooMailNeo at web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a
+</I>&gt;<i> lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.
+</I>&gt;<i> ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Respectfully,
+</I>&gt;<i> Dan-Marian, Joi?a.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 2
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:26:10 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> From: Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">4F455D72.10505 at xs4all.nl</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">4F455D72.10505 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 22/02/12 21:33, Dj Marian wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Respectfully,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Dan-Marian, Joi?a.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Dan,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good to hear from you again :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you have time to help with something easier?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Dj Marian</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20something%20easier&In-Reply-To=%3C1330026855.32924.YahooMailNeo%40web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] something easier">djmarian4u at yahoo.com
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+ <I>Thu Feb 23 20:54:15 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+I'm not even sure what i was assigned in the first place... so i ask what is easier?
+&#160;
+Respectfully,
+Dan-Marian, Joi&#355;a.
+
+
+
+Hi Dan,
+
+Good to hear from you again :)
+
+Do you have time to help with something easier?
+
+Regards,
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+<PRE>Hi Dan,
+
+No tasks were assigned to you.
+
+A few days ago I wrote a mail about &quot;your help is needed&quot;, in which I
+gave a link to some bugzilla searches with an explanation what to do
+with them. I wrote
+
+&quot;It would be great if one or more persons would be willing to do one or
+more of those searches regularly and handle the resulting bug reports :-) &quot;
+
+You replied to that mail by saying &quot;I'm sorry to not have done much for
+the bug squad, i am still in a lack of knowledge. I will try to learn
+from the bugs i submit.&quot;
+
+I understood you thought helping with those searches was too difficult.
+
+So I offered an easier task.
+
+But maybe I misunderstood your reply and the real problem is that you
+have too many other tasks, outside Bug Squad or Mageia?
+
+If you do have time and would like to help, please come to
+<A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-bugsquad">irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-bugsquad</A> so we can talk about what you
+can do.
+
+If you don't have time or don't feel you should help: no problem.
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+
+
+On 23/02/12 20:54, Dj Marian wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not even sure what i was assigned in the first place... so i ask
+</I>&gt;<i> what is easier?
+</I>&gt;<i> Respectfully,
+</I>&gt;<i> Dan-Marian, Joi&#355;a.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Dan,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good to hear from you again :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you have time to help with something easier?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<I>Dj Marian
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia-bugsquad Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2
+</A><A NAME="103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia-bugsquad Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2
+</A><A NAME="104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000099.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed
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+<I>Dj Marian
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+<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed
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+<I>josemar1992 at gmail.com
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+<LI><A HREF="000102.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia-bugsquad Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2
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+<I>Luzem&#225;rio
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia-bugsquad Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2
+</A><A NAME="103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia-bugsquad Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] something easier
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+<I>Dj Marian
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+<LI><A HREF="000103.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia-bugsquad Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2
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+<LI><A HREF="000104.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia-bugsquad Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000105.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] something easier
+</A><A NAME="105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dj Marian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000106.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] something easier
+</A><A NAME="106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000098.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed
+</A><A NAME="98">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
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+</A><A NAME="99">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dj Marian
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+<LI><A HREF="000100.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed
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+<I>Dj Marian
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+-------- Original Message --------
+Subject: [Mageia-discuss] Servers downtime scheduled from Feb. 1 to 2
+for maintenance
+Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:19:02 +0100
+From: Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Reply-To: Mageia general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia development mailing-list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;, Mageia
+general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+
+
+
+Hello everyone,
+
+some Mageia servers will be down from Wednesday Feb. 1st to Thursday
+Feb. 2nd for maintenance. Particularly, the following services will be
+unavailable:
+- our LDAP/user identity db,
+- build system,
+- Bugzilla,
+- all mailing-lists hosted on ml.mageia.org,
+- Wiki,
+- forums.
+
+So... not all, but, a lot of what you use here! The exact hours of
+interruption are not known, so expect no availability for those 2 full
+days.
+
+Blog (where an equivalent warning will be posted), Web site,
+mailing-lists (and archives) will not be down.
+
+In the meantime, in our Marseille data center, 4 of our sysadmin team
+(dams, boklm, rtp and misc in this case) will do nothing less than:
+ - upgrade servers to Mageia 1,
+ - replace broken HDD,
+ - add SSD in build nodes,
+ - install our ARM build system,
+ - install a dedicated server for backups,
+ - install a dedicated server for QA and packagers.
+
+All hardware purchased thanks to what Mageia.Org received from so many
+donators (<A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/thank-you/">http://mageia.org/en/thank-you/</A> again).
+
+This is quite a short notice, we apologize for this. Thank you for
+your comprehension (and please spread the info to your list/team if
+relevant).
+
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+ <I>Wed Jul 4 15:48:21 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Just forwarding this mail, in case we decide to enhance
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Debugging_software_crashes">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Debugging_software_crashes</A>
+
+(I don't think we have a useful example there)
+
+Is it true that tv's method is wrong, or are they both good?
+
+
+
+
+-------- Original Message --------
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] net_applet segfaulting
+Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 20:45:20 +0300
+From: Shlomi Fish &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">shlomif at shlomifish.org</A>&gt;
+Reply-To: Mageia development mailing-list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia development mailing-list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello Shlomi - I installed what Thierry Vignaud suggested:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) install perl-debug glibc-debug perl-Glib-debug perl-Gtk2-debug
+</I>&gt;<i> gtk2.0-debug gdb
+</I>
+Looks fine.
+
+&gt;<i> 2) run &quot;gdb perl /usr/bin/net_applet&quot;
+</I>
+That's wrong - it should just be &quot;gdb perl&quot;.
+
+&gt;<i> 3) type &quot;run&quot; to start it from the debuger
+</I>
+&quot;run /usr/bin/net_applet&quot;.
+
+&gt;<i> 4) type &quot;bt&quot; to get a backstrace once it segfaulted
+</I>&gt;<i> 5) paste the backtrace in a text file you'll _attach_ to a bug report
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I></PRE>
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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+ <I>Thu Jul 5 22:34:53 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+Here at QA the bugzilla notifications we get at <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">qa-bugs at ml.mageia.org</A> are one
+of our main tool to get information about what's going on regarding update
+candidates. Every bit of information we can gather using one single look is a
+gain in time and clarity.
+
+Now that we will get backports to test, we would like to be able to
+differentiate mails concerning updates from those concerning backports, ideally
+with ability to filter in our mail client.
+
+We envisioned 2 different solutions at tonights QA meeting, but maybe you have
+other ideas.
+
+
+*** Solution 1 : a qa-backports mailing list ***
+Bug reports for backport validation would have to be assigned to qa-backports
+instead of qa-bugs.
+
+
+*** Solution 2 : formatted bug summary ***
+We would keep only one mailing list, but mail subjects would have to contain
+the needed information.
+
+Example:
+- [qa-bugs] [Bug 6707] Update: mumble new security issue CVE-2012-0863
+- [qa-bugs] [Bug 5142] Backport: tremulous 3.0
+
+This would mean more work for packagers and bugsquad to make sure the bug
+report has a well-formatted summary.
+
+Ideally, it would be good if we could see also from the mail subject what
+version(s) of Mageia the update or backport is for, such as :
+
+- [qa-bugs] [Bug 6707] Update: mumble new security issue CVE-2012-0863 [mga1]
+- [qa-bugs] [Bug 5142] Backport: tremulous 3.0 [mga1][mga2]
+
+
+What solution do you think we should choose? #1, #2, another one? And if we go
+for solution #1 do you think we can still have the [mgaX] part (like was done
+on some bugs already)?
+
+Best regards
+Samuel Verschelde
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+<PRE>Le 05/07/2012 22:34, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We envisioned 2 different solutions at tonights QA meeting, but maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> you have other ideas.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> *** Solution 1 : a qa-backports mailing list ***
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bug reports for backport validation would have to be assigned to
+</I>&gt;<i> qa-backports instead of qa-bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> *** Solution 2 : formatted bug summary ***
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We would keep only one mailing list, but mail subjects would have to
+</I>&gt;<i> contain the needed information.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Example:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - [qa-bugs] [Bug 6707] Update: mumble new security issue CVE-2012-0863
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - [qa-bugs] [Bug 5142] Backport: tremulous 3.0
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This would mean more work for packagers and bugsquad to make sure the
+</I>&gt;<i> bug report has a well-formatted summary.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ideally, it would be good if we could see also from the mail subject
+</I>&gt;<i> what version(s) of Mageia the update or backport is for, such as :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - [qa-bugs] [Bug 6707] Update: mumble new security issue CVE-2012-0863
+</I>&gt;<i> [mga1]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - [qa-bugs] [Bug 5142] Backport: tremulous 3.0 [mga1][mga2]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What solution do you think we should choose? #1, #2, another one? And
+</I>&gt;<i> if we go for solution #1 do you think we can still have the [mgaX]
+</I>&gt;<i> part (like was done on some bugs already)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+What about modify the email directly send to the mailing ? I'm pretty
+sure we can add specific item in the subject for a mailing (but don't
+know if it's the right things to do) or playing with the component/keyword.
+Maybe ask lpsolit if there is other way.
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/web/templates/bugzilla/trunk/email/newchangedmail.txt.tmpl?revision=261&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/web/templates/bugzilla/trunk/email/newchangedmail.txt.tmpl?revision=261&amp;view=markup</A>
+
+I guess a solution like #2 is better for everyone.
+
+--
+Manuel Hiebel
+<A HREF="http://netiquette.fr/">http://netiquette.fr/</A>
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What solution do you think we should choose? #1, #2, another one? And if
+</I>&gt;<i> we go for solution #1 do you think we can still have the [mgaX] part
+</I>&gt;<i> (like was done on some bugs already)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Solution #1, a seperate mailing list, without the [mgaX] part being
+obligatory.
+
+There is near to no Bugsquad, Bugzilla is a mess and there are still
+packagers who have to learn to add an advisory.
+
+I'm considering leaving Bug Squad, by the way, because what I've been
+doing for Bug Squad since five months ago is a laugh.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What about modify the email directly send to the mailing ? I'm pretty
+</I>&gt;<i> sure we can add specific item in the subject for a mailing (but don't
+</I>&gt;<i> know if it's the right things to do) or playing with the component/keyword.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe ask lpsolit if there is other way.
+</I>
+Good idea..... he said he would be on holiday during RMLL, though.
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.
+
+Unfortunately, everyone in the cc of the bugs will receive the ping, too.
+
+The only bugs that'll be pinged are that
+* were assigned more than 2 weeks ago
+* where the assignee didn't do anything to the bug since more than two
+weeks ago
+* where the assignee didn't confirm the bug was assigned correctly by
+either setting status to ASSIGNED or by putting OK on the whiteboard and.
+
+Bugs that are assigned to QA or Bug Squad won't be pinged, nor will
+Reporter = Assignee ones.
+
+Enhancement requests and minor bugs won't be pinged either, nor will
+bugs that have the TRACKER or UPSTREAM keyword.
+
+If you're the assignee and you don't have a clue whether the bug was
+assigned correctly or not, please put NEEDHELP on the whiteboard.
+
+If you know it was *not* assigned correctly, please reassign to either
+the correct person or to Bug Squad, and explain.
+
+Set status to ASSIGNED or put OK on the whiteboard if you don't want to
+be pinged in the same bug for the same thing again.
+
+Cheers,
+marja
+
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+&gt;<i> Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.
+</I>
+Couldn't we use another method than this? Like using Bugzilla's native
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+<PRE>On 06/07/2012 13:59, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Marja van Waes&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Couldn't we use another method than this? Like using Bugzilla's native
+</I>&gt;<i> whining feature, or an equivalent where each assignee only get
+</I>&gt;<i> notified of his assigned bugs in a single mail listing those?
+</I>
+Yes, that would be a lot better.
+
+I understood that feature was disabled to solve bug 1932
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932</A>
+
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+&gt;<i> On 06/07/2012 13:59, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Marja van Waes&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Couldn't we use another method than this? Like using Bugzilla's native
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whining feature, or an equivalent where each assignee only get
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> notified of his assigned bugs in a single mail listing those?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, that would be a lot better.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I understood that feature was disabled to solve bug 1932
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932</A>
+</I>
+Ok, but there a daily reminder is nonsense.
+
+A monthly (or every 2 months) reminder of bugs fitting in your above
+query would sound sane, if it's sent only to the assignee. If not,
+then the whole mass ping itself should not be done either.
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+<PRE>On 06/07/2012 16:49, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> (removed -discuss from the discussion)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Marja van Waes&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 06/07/2012 14:22, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe it works better in upgraded Bugzilla :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, it works in the current setup.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think we should ping bug reports for which we haven't got a confirmation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that the assignment was correct after two weeks, except when the assignee
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shows activity in the report.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If the assignee thinks the bug was assigned correctly, he can put OK on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whiteboard or set status to ASSIGNED, and he won't show up in this search
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> again, so he won't be pinged for this reason again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We can make a bi-monthly check that will only whine to the assignees,
+</I>&gt;<i> and not others. That makes at most (for the unlucky ones), two mails a
+</I>&gt;<i> month summarizing what they are assigned to and that it has not been
+</I>&gt;<i> checked out of the query.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shall we try that?
+</I>
+Well, if you replace &quot;bi-monthly&quot; by &quot;twice a month&quot; (that seems to be
+what you mean), then: yes, please!
+
+Bi-monthly doesn't have a fixed meaning
+<A HREF="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bi-monthly">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bi-monthly</A> ;)
+
+Thanks a lot, Romain :)
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+&gt;<i> On 06/07/2012 16:49, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Shall we try that?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, if you replace &quot;bi-monthly&quot; by &quot;twice a month&quot; (that seems to be what
+</I>&gt;<i> you mean), then: yes, please!
+</I>
+Yes.
+
+Ok, test will go in a few minutes to all current assignees that have
+bugs matching your query (I had to duplicate it to my own account).
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+enterarme de algo y colaborar. Luego con mi poco ingles me apa&#241;aria.
+Gracias.
+Thank you all. Sorry for this message. I'll write in inglish next time.
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+<PRE>On 07/07/2012 23:16, Jos&#233; Mar&#237;a Mart&#237;nez Garc&#237;a wrote:
+&gt;<i> Quiero ponerme en contacto con gente que hable espa&#241;ol para intentar
+</I>&gt;<i> enterarme de algo y colaborar. Luego con mi poco ingles me apa&#241;aria.
+</I>&gt;<i> Gracias.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank you all. Sorry for this message. I'll write in inglish next time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+(Jos&#233; was looking for a Spanish speaking person, he wants to contribute
+- if I understand the word &quot;colaborar&quot; correctly, that is)
+
+Hay por lo menos tres personas que hablan Espa&#241;ol en el equipe de
+documentaci&#243;n.
+
+Tal vez uno de ellos puede ayudarte.
+
+Creo que lo mejor que puedes hacer, es primero aprender mas Ingl&#233;s
+
+(There are at least three Spanish speaking persons in documentation team
+- Maybe one of them can help you - I think the best you can do is first
+learn more English)
+
+Cheers,
+marja
+
+
+
+
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20Review%20Mageia%203%20features&In-Reply-To=%3C4FFBC85B.2030202%40xs4all.nl%3E"
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+ <I>Tue Jul 10 08:14:51 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+Last night in council meeting, we were urged to tell our teams that all
+teams will have until friday 12h utc for last reviews for Mageia 3 features.
+
+Sending this mail to bugsquad and forums ml, too, to save maat and
+leuhmanu some time ;)
+
+The policy for selecting features can be found here:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Features_policy#Features_acceptance">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Features_policy#Features_acceptance</A>
+
+The current state of the proposed features is here:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/FeatureMageia3_Review">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/FeatureMageia3_Review</A>
+
+Accepted features are at the top. For not accepted ones, often resources
+are missing. So if a feature is important to you please add your name in
+the resources part of the proposal and tell what you are willing to do.
+
+
+@ Macxi
+Is everything listed here <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Edu_SIG">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Edu_SIG</A> all that is
+needed (so apart from LTS and of normal things like office software etc.)?
+
+There is no documentation needed other than what comes with the packages?
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
+
+
+
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+<PRE>On 10/07/2012 08:14, Marja van Waes wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Last night in council meeting, we were urged to tell our teams that all
+</I>&gt;<i> teams will have until friday 12h utc for last reviews for Mageia 3
+</I>&gt;<i> features.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sending this mail to bugsquad and forums ml, too, to save maat and
+</I>&gt;<i> leuhmanu some time ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The policy for selecting features can be found here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Features_policy#Features_acceptance">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Features_policy#Features_acceptance</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The current state of the proposed features is here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/FeatureMageia3_Review">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/FeatureMageia3_Review</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Accepted features are at the top. For not accepted ones, often resources
+</I>&gt;<i> are missing. So if a feature is important to you please add your name in
+</I>&gt;<i> the resources part of the proposal and tell what you are willing to do.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Oops, forgot to add that the following is about
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Educational_Distro_LTS">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:Educational_Distro_LTS</A>
+I added this because Macxi started talking about that proposal in the
+forums and because he contributes to doc team :)
+
+&gt;<i> @ Macxi
+</I>&gt;<i> Is everything listed here <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Edu_SIG">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Edu_SIG</A> all that is
+</I>&gt;<i> needed (so apart from LTS and of normal things like office software etc.)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no documentation needed other than what comes with the packages?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>(Again, made a mistake while sending this message)
+
+Hi everyone,
+
+My brain told me last week that it needs a holiday: it is extremely
+reluctant to do regular tasks and is very eager to do new things.
+
+So I'm on a sort of holiday till next monday: freeing up time to learn
+new things, like making a lot better use of vim than &quot;&lt;insert&gt; (edit
+something)&lt;esc&gt; :wq&quot; (thx, rindolf) and starting to learn packaging
+(thx, doktor5000) and to walk, cycle or row more. :)
+
+I'm available for urgent things.
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
+
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As requested, the forums-bugs mailing list has been created. You can now
+</I>&gt;<i> use <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">forums-bugs at ml.mageia.org</A> on bugzilla as assignee or in CC for bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> related to forums.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The URL for subscribing :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/forums-bugs">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/forums-bugs</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Thanks a lot, Nicolas, you're fast :)
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+<I>Jos&#233; Mar&#237;a Mart&#237;nez Garc&#237;a
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+<LI><A HREF="000149.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Differentiate mails concerning update candidates and backports candidates (and ideally mga1/2)
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+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000148.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Differentiate mails concerning update candidates and backports candidates (and ideally mga1/2)
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+<I>Samuel Verschelde
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000149.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Differentiate mails concerning update candidates and backports candidates (and ideally mga1/2)
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000153.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
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+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+<LI><A HREF="000154.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
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+<LI><A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Alguno habla espa&#241;ol
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+<I>Jos&#233; Mar&#237;a Mart&#237;nez Garc&#237;a
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+<LI><A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Alguno habla espa&#241;ol
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000152.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping
+</A><A NAME="152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000148.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Differentiate mails concerning update candidates and backports candidates (and ideally mga1/2)
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+<I>Samuel Verschelde
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+<LI><A HREF="000149.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Differentiate mails concerning update candidates and backports candidates (and ideally mga1/2)
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000150.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Differentiate mails concerning update candidates and backports candidates (and ideally mga1/2)
+</A><A NAME="150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000151.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Differentiate mails concerning update candidates and backports candidates (and ideally mga1/2)
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia 2 post mortem page">manuel at hiebel.eu
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+<PRE>Le 28/05/2012 22:56, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To improve all process in the release, we have started a wiki page on
+</I>&gt;<i> the council meeting:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia2_Postmortem#Triage">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia2_Postmortem#Triage</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The page is here for &quot;determine and analyze elements of the project
+</I>&gt;<i> that were successful or unsuccessful&quot; (wikipedia)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any critic is good, so if you see anything to keep or to change, don't
+</I>&gt;<i> hesitate to share.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks !
+</I>
+Nothing other than the 'tracker bug' ? no ideas to improve ? stuff to
+keep or change ?
+
+
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>On 05-06-12 00:24, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 28/05/2012 22:56, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nothing other than the 'tracker bug' ? no ideas to improve ? stuff to
+</I>&gt;<i> keep or change ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Stuff to keep:
+
+1. The relaxed way we treat each other within Bug Squad.
+2. Good trackers
+3. Having 1 bug for more Mageia versions instead of cloning them
+4. Not having too many meetings
+5. Not wasting our time spamming our own ml
+
+
+But I suppose we did the last two things too well :&#254;
+
+
+Here are my frustrations:
+
+1. In february, I saw &quot;still-assigned-to-bugsquad-bugs&quot; after there
+hadn't been any action on them in 5 or 6 weeks. That included bugs that
+had *only* seen action from the reporter and no one else.
+
+Now they grow stale (except for all those cauldron bugs that were
+mass-pinged).
+
+2. Also, I'm frustrated about assignees who seem dead. I'm very glad
+shikamaru is back...... but is he also back to work on his bugs, or
+isn't he?
+
+What happened to supp (Tom&#225;&#353;), is he still with us?
+
+3. Most of the time, we still don't get a confirmation that we assigned
+correctly
+
+4. Less important: it would be nice if someone could compare all the
+package requests with what is in Mageia atm. (I suspect some requests
+got solved unnoticed, because that happened in the time I still looked
+at those bugs, too)
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+<PRE>On 05-06-12 07:48, Marja van Waes wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 05-06-12 00:24, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 28/05/2012 22:56, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nothing other than the 'tracker bug' ? no ideas to improve ? stuff to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> keep or change ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Stuff to keep:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. The relaxed way we treat each other within Bug Squad.
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Good trackers
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Having 1 bug for more Mageia versions instead of cloning them
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. Not having too many meetings
+</I>&gt;<i> 5. Not wasting our time spamming our own ml
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But I suppose we did the last two things too well :&#254;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here are my frustrations:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. In february, I saw &quot;still-assigned-to-bugsquad-bugs&quot; after there
+</I>&gt;<i> hadn't been any action on them in 5 or 6 weeks. That included bugs that
+</I>&gt;<i> had *only* seen action from the reporter and no one else.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now they grow stale (except for all those cauldron bugs that were
+</I>&gt;<i> mass-pinged).
+</I>
+(Bugzilla upgrade would make it easy to find those &quot;no action except
+from the reporter&quot; bugs)
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Also, I'm frustrated about assignees who seem dead. I'm very glad
+</I>&gt;<i> shikamaru is back...... but is he also back to work on his bugs, or
+</I>&gt;<i> isn't he?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What happened to supp (Tom&#225;&#353;), is he still with us?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Most of the time, we still don't get a confirmation that we assigned
+</I>&gt;<i> correctly
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. Less important: it would be nice if someone could compare all the
+</I>&gt;<i> package requests with what is in Mageia atm. (I suspect some requests
+</I>&gt;<i> got solved unnoticed, because that happened in the time I still looked
+</I>&gt;<i> at those bugs, too)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+AFAIK, there isn't an easy way to find the last sign of life of a
+maintainer in our Bugzilla, I use the bugzilla-daemon mails for that.
+
+The last sign of life of:
+
+supp (Tom&#225;&#353; Kindl) was on *2011-11-24* when he changed the status of
+bug 3429 to ASSIGNED
+
+shikamaru (R&#233;my Clouard) was on 2012-05-31, when he commented in bug
+2822. That looks like he's still alive, however, his last sign of life
+in a &quot;ruby-*&quot; bug was on *2011-10-22*, in bug 3070
+
+cjw alias spturtle (Christiaan Welvaart) was on *2011-12-30*, when he
+commented in bug 2157
+
+I only checked those three. There is undoubtedly a fast way to get a
+list with the last sign of life of everyone in that ml. I don't know how
+to do that.
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
+
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+&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> AFAIK, there isn't an easy way to find the last sign of life of a
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainer in our Bugzilla, I use the bugzilla-daemon mails for that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The last sign of life of:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> supp (Tom&#225;&#353; Kindl) was on *2011-11-24* when he changed the status of bug
+</I>&gt;<i> 3429 to ASSIGNED
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> shikamaru (R&#233;my Clouard) was on 2012-05-31, when he commented in bug
+</I>&gt;<i> 2822. That looks like he's still alive, however, his last sign of life
+</I>&gt;<i> in a &quot;ruby-*&quot; bug was on *2011-10-22*, in bug 3070
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cjw alias spturtle (Christiaan Welvaart) was on *2011-12-30*, when he
+</I>&gt;<i> commented in bug 2157
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Another one:
+
+dlucio (Daniel Lucio, AKA Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz) *2012-04-28* when
+he closed bug 5605 as fixed
+
+He mentioned he had problems with email, but now:
+[11:28] &lt;xochiquetzal&gt; dlucio was last seen in #mageia-dev 67 days 7
+hours ago saying &quot;whos fixing mysql-admin?&quot;.
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> On 07-06-12 09:41, Marja van Waes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> AFAIK, there isn't an easy way to find the last sign of life of a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maintainer in our Bugzilla, I use the bugzilla-daemon mails for that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The last sign of life of:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> supp (Tom&#225;&#154; Kindl) was on *2011-11-24* when he changed the status of bug
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3429 to ASSIGNED
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shikamaru (R&#233;my Clouard) was on 2012-05-31, when he commented in bug
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2822. That looks like he's still alive, however, his last sign of life
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in a &quot;ruby-*&quot; bug was on *2011-10-22*, in bug 3070
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cjw alias spturtle (Christiaan Welvaart) was on *2011-12-30*, when he
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> commented in bug 2157
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Another one:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> dlucio (Daniel Lucio, AKA Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz) *2012-04-28* when he
+</I>&gt;<i> closed bug 5605 as fixed
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> He mentioned he had problems with email, but now:
+</I>&gt;<i> [11:28] &lt;xochiquetzal&gt; dlucio was last seen in #mageia-dev 67 days 7
+</I>&gt;<i> hours ago saying &quot;whos fixing mysql-admin?&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+lol: another one
+
+erwan (Erwan Velu) *2011-10-05*
+
+@ Erwan I know you're not dead, can you please have a look at bugs 44,
+2038 and 2652..... or tell us if you're too busy or whatever and they
+should be reassigned?
+
+
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+<PRE>Fr&#233;d&#233;ric gave some useful searches :
+
+-------- Original Message --------
+Subject: Re: last sign of life of assignees in Bugzilla
+Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:39:11 +0200
+From: Fr&#233;d&#233;ric Buclin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">LpSolit at netscape.net</A>&gt;
+Reply-To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">LpSolit at netscape.net</A>
+
+To: Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt;
+
+Le 08. 06. 12 16:19, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+
+&gt;<i> Maat is currently trying to find a way to make something like a list of
+</I>&gt;<i> all assignees who didn't show any activity in the Mageia Bugzilla since
+</I>&gt;<i> more than a month ago.
+</I>
+Hi Marja,
+
+To get bugs which haven't been touched by their assignee in the last 30
+days, the query is:
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=owner_idle_time&amp;resolution=---&amp;type0-0-0=greaterthan&amp;value0-0-0=30">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=owner_idle_time&amp;resolution=---&amp;type0-0-0=greaterthan&amp;value0-0-0=30</A>
+
+This list currently returns 1843 bugs.
+
+If you only want bugs which haven't been touched by a real assignee,
+then we have to exclude <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">bugsquad at mageia.org</A> as assignee, and the URL
+becomes:
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=owner_idle_time&amp;field0-1-0=assigned_to&amp;resolution=---&amp;type0-0-0=greaterthan&amp;type0-1-0=notequals&amp;value0-0-0=30&amp;value0-1-0=bugsquad%40mageia.org">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=owner_idle_time&amp;field0-1-0=assigned_to&amp;resolution=---&amp;type0-0-0=greaterthan&amp;type0-1-0=notequals&amp;value0-0-0=30&amp;value0-1-0=bugsquad%40mageia.org</A>
+
+This list returns 838 bugs. If there are other default assignees to
+exclude, simply add them to the list.
+
+
+Fr&#233;d&#233;ric
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+a little over 2 weeks ago, when cauldron equalled Mageia 2, so there
+wasn't a real cauldron, I did a mass ping for almost all cauldron bugs
+(except package requests) to ask whether they were still valid for Mageia 2.
+
+
+Most, if not all, of the following bugs were pinged then, but there
+seems not to have been a reply. However, there are too many of them for
+me to check:
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?negate0=1&amp;keywords=NEEDINFO&amp;chfieldto=2012-05-27&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;chfieldfrom=2012-05-26&amp;field0-0-0=status_whiteboard&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;version=Cauldron&amp;type0-0-0=substring&amp;value0-0-0=MGA2TOO&amp;product=Mageia">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?negate0=1&amp;keywords=NEEDINFO&amp;chfieldto=2012-05-27&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;chfieldfrom=2012-05-26&amp;field0-0-0=status_whiteboard&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;version=Cauldron&amp;type0-0-0=substring&amp;value0-0-0=MGA2TOO&amp;product=Mageia</A>
+
+If you know about any of those bugs that it got solved, please make a
+comment in it and close it as RESOLVED - FIXED
+
+If you know the bug is still there in Mageia 2 and/or current cauldron:
+Please make a comment that the bug is still valid and
+* remove the &quot;NEEDINFO&quot; keyword
+* put &quot;MGA2TOO&quot; on the whiteboard if it exists in Mageia 2 *and* cauldron
+* change version to &quot;2&quot; if you know it was recently solved for cauldron,
+but not yet for &quot;2&quot;
+
+Thanks in advance,
+Marja
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20Fw%3A%20Ati%20Radeon%20Driver%20and%20Plymouth%20Bugs&In-Reply-To=%3CBAY156-ds15DB4FE037D86D79B0838DDF60%40phx.gbl%3E"
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+ <I>Wed Jun 13 01:06:49 CEST 2012</I>
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+From: Joe
+Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:35 PM
+To:
+Subject: Ati Radeon Driver and Plymouth Bugs
+
+To whom it may concern, I cannot understand the logic with not being able to install the Radeon graphics driver during installation. You did offer it in Mageia 1, why not in Mageia 2. It makes no sense at all, you need to correct this issue with no excuses. I am sick and tired of garbage excuses. When you create a product you don&#8217;t half finish it, don&#8217;t make it so dam frustrating. I know you people are very young and might not understand, but you cannot make a product so that it won&#8217;t work or if it does it works like an abortion. You must allow the option to install the graphics driver during the install correctly, without any excuses, so the system will reboot and work. I cannot make it any more plainer than that. I do not want to go thru any freakin hoops to install this program. Its like buying a new car but not getting the motor, do you understand what I mean, its half finished. Also you have some major issues with plymouth, it does not work. Please respond. I&#8217;m sorry for being so upset, but it is very frustrating. I have tried over 12 times to make this OS function correctly. I&#8217;m done.
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
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+<PRE>Le 13/06/2012 01:06, Joe a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> *From:* Joe &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">joep2695 at msn.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:35 PM
+</I>&gt;<i> *To:*
+</I>&gt;<i> *Subject:* Ati Radeon Driver and Plymouth Bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> To whom it may concern, I cannot understand the logic with not being
+</I>&gt;<i> able to install the Radeon graphics driver during installation.
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> Please respond. I'm sorry for being so upset, but it is very
+</I>&gt;<i> frustrating. I have tried over 12 times to make this OS function
+</I>&gt;<i> correctly. I'm done.
+</I>
+No, personally, I will not replay and answer to your email as this
+mailing list is not a support one. You have to use the mageia-discuss@
+or use the forum.
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+ <I>Thu Jun 14 09:18:19 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+The preferred meeting times table was slightly adjusted, &quot;The times are
+in UTC&quot; has been added, because within Mageia setting meeting times in
+UTC is default.
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad#Preferred_meeting_time">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad#Preferred_meeting_time</A>
+
+This is maybe a good moment to review your own prefferred meeting times,
+or add yours if they're not there.
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+
+I thought you'd get a message if I click on the report button. I did
+that for <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=18&amp;t=2772#p21365,">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=18&amp;t=2772#p21365,</A>
+because I think that post should be moved to basic support. It could be
+a real bug he is talking about, btw, I installed gmic in Mageia 2 and
+couldn't find the plugin anywhere in the Gimp.
+
+I'm cc'ing the forums-discuss and mageia-bugsquad mls, because I'm
+wondering what would be the best advice to people who want to file bug
+reports, but don't speak enough English and don't find someone to help them.
+
+One option would be to let them file the report in their own language,
+with the description of the bug as well in their own language as in the
+google translation (not only the translation, because the translations
+are too bad).
+
+Another option would be to tell them to go to the Basic support section
+of our English forum.
+
+Wdyt?
+
+Cheers,
+marja
+
+
+
+
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] [forums-discuss] filing bugs if you don't speak English">marja11 at xs4all.nl
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+ <I>Mon Jun 25 23:13:47 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 25/06/2012 22:51, Florian Hubold wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 25.06.2012 14:32, schrieb Marja van Waes:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Another option would be to tell them to go to the Basic support section of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> our English forum.
+</I>&gt;<i> This would be a better way to handle it, describe the problem and ask for help,
+</I>&gt;<i> so that someone could report it for you or at least help you translate it.
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd be willing to help, but i'm afraid this will be quite detrimental to my
+</I>&gt;<i> package maintainer tasks :/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+No, you're the last one who should do this
+
+
+&gt;<i> Maybe i can ask forum helpers group for help ...
+</I>
+It would be nice to know which languages the helpers speak
+
+&gt;<i> Or someone could activate
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=group&amp;g=13">https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=group&amp;g=13</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> for this ;)
+</I>
+lol.
+
+
+But thanks for the suggestion, it reminds me of the i18n ml, we could
+ask for help there, too :)
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+ <B>Angel Ashiqur Rahman</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] Introducing Myself">mail at angelinux.net
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+ <I>Sat Jun 30 15:56:06 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hello Everyone,
+
+My name is Ashiqur Rahman Angel (You can call me Angel). I am from
+Bangladesh. I am working with various FOSS Projects since 2004. I was
+an Ambassador of Fedora since 2006. In Fedora [1] I also worked with
+Fedora Web Team and Documentation Team. Also was a Fedora Free Media
+Coordinator of Bangladesh. Currently I am inactive there for various
+reasons.
+
+I am exploring Mageia Project since it&#180;s birth even before releasing
+the Mageia 1. And finally I have decided to contribute. As a starter,
+I want to work with Bug Squad and Web Team. I have already an account
+at Mageia (username: angel). And already subscribed the Bug Squad
+Mailing List. Please let me know as a start, where I can help.
+
+
+[1] <A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Angel">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Angel</A>
+
+-- Angel
+&#160;&#160; Give me Linux.. ..or give me death
+&#160;&#160; C9A2 44E1 4B6A DB50 381C 1F3B A8F8 D51E E6AC 1942
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>On 30/06/2012 15:56, Angel Ashiqur Rahman wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello Everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My name is Ashiqur Rahman Angel (You can call me Angel). I am from
+</I>&gt;<i> Bangladesh. I am working with various FOSS Projects since 2004. I was
+</I>&gt;<i> an Ambassador of Fedora since 2006. In Fedora [1] I also worked with
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora Web Team and Documentation Team. Also was a Fedora Free Media
+</I>&gt;<i> Coordinator of Bangladesh. Currently I am inactive there for various
+</I>&gt;<i> reasons.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am exploring Mageia Project since it&#180;s birth even before releasing
+</I>&gt;<i> the Mageia 1. And finally I have decided to contribute. As a starter,
+</I>&gt;<i> I want to work with Bug Squad and Web Team. I have already an account
+</I>&gt;<i> at Mageia (username: angel). And already subscribed the Bug Squad
+</I>&gt;<i> Mailing List. Please let me know as a start, where I can help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] <A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Angel">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Angel</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -- Angel
+</I>&gt;<i> Give me Linux.. ..or give me death
+</I>&gt;<i> C9A2 44E1 4B6A DB50 381C 1F3B A8F8 D51E E6AC 1942
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>
+Welcome Angel,
+
+Good to see you in this mailing list :)
+
+Can you please add your name here
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bugsquad#Team_members">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bugsquad#Team_members</A>
+
+and maybe your preferred meeting times here
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bugsquad#Preferred_meeting_time">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bugsquad#Preferred_meeting_time</A>
+
+Not that we have a lot of meetings ;)
+
+To login and be able to edit in the wiki, you can use the same username
+as you use for bugzilla and the same password (unless your username has
+an underscore in it).
+
+It would be great if you could read our documentation, basically
+anything linked to from <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad_Portal">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad_Portal</A> :)
+
+One thing you could help with, is with maintaining bug reports. We are
+behind on maintenance
+(<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Maintenance_of_bug_reports">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Maintenance_of_bug_reports</A>) in more than one
+way.
+
+I won't tell more, now. You'll have enough to read for a start, and
+maybe someone else sees something else that needs to be done now. If
+you'd like to help with maintenance or something else, please
+(preferably) join us on IRC <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-bugsquad">irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-bugsquad</A>
+and/or reply to this mail.
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+<LI><A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia 2 post mortem page
+</A><A NAME="129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Fw: Ati Radeon Driver and Plymouth Bugs
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Joe
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+<LI><A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia 2 post mortem page
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass ping: continued
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Last signs of life from maintainers in Bugzilla
+</A><A NAME="132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Last signs of life from maintainers in Bugzilla
+</A><A NAME="133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Last signs of life from maintainers in Bugzilla
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+<LI><A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Fwd: Re: last sign of life of assignees in Bugzilla
+</A><A NAME="135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass ping: continued
+</A><A NAME="139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Fw: Ati Radeon Driver and Plymouth Bugs
+</A><A NAME="140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joe
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Fw: Ati Radeon Driver and Plymouth Bugs
+</A><A NAME="141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000142.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] preferred meeting time table
+</A><A NAME="142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000143.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] filing bugs if you don't speak English
+</A><A NAME="143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000144.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [forums-discuss] filing bugs if you don't speak English
+</A><A NAME="144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000145.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Introducing Myself
+</A><A NAME="145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angel Ashiqur Rahman
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000146.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Introducing Myself
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+<LI><A HREF="000144.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [forums-discuss] filing bugs if you don't speak English
+</A><A NAME="144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Last signs of life from maintainers in Bugzilla
+</A><A NAME="133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Last signs of life from maintainers in Bugzilla
+</A><A NAME="134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass ping: continued
+</A><A NAME="139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000143.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] filing bugs if you don't speak English
+</A><A NAME="143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Fw: Ati Radeon Driver and Plymouth Bugs
+</A><A NAME="140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joe
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Fw: Ati Radeon Driver and Plymouth Bugs
+</A><A NAME="141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Fwd: Re: last sign of life of assignees in Bugzilla
+</A><A NAME="135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000145.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Introducing Myself
+</A><A NAME="145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angel Ashiqur Rahman
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000146.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Introducing Myself
+</A><A NAME="146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Last signs of life from maintainers in Bugzilla
+</A><A NAME="132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia 2 post mortem page
+</A><A NAME="129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia 2 post mortem page
+</A><A NAME="130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000129.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia 2 post mortem page
+</A><A NAME="129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<!--1 01338848684-01338875295- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000130.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia 2 post mortem page
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<!--2 01338848684-01338875295-01338876469- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000131.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia 2 post mortem page
+</A><A NAME="131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<!--0 01339054873- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000132.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Last signs of life from maintainers in Bugzilla
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000133.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Last signs of life from maintainers in Bugzilla
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000134.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-dev] Last signs of life from maintainers in Bugzilla
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+</UL>
+<!--0 01339169267- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Fwd: Re: last sign of life of assignees in Bugzilla
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+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01339523960- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000139.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass ping: continued
+</A><A NAME="139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01339542409- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Fw: Ati Radeon Driver and Plymouth Bugs
+</A><A NAME="140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joe
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01339542409-01339543729- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000141.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Fw: Ati Radeon Driver and Plymouth Bugs
+</A><A NAME="141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
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+<!--0 01339658299- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000142.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] preferred meeting time table
+</A><A NAME="142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01340627561- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000143.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] filing bugs if you don't speak English
+</A><A NAME="143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000144.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [forums-discuss] filing bugs if you don't speak English
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+<LI><A HREF="000145.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Introducing Myself
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20Bugsquad%20team%20leader%20election&In-Reply-To=%3C1331057705.5433.42.camel%40vosdook.mh%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team leader election">manuel at hiebel.eu
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Tue Mar 6 19:15:05 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hello Bugsquad,
+
+There was never a real election for our team but since August, I'm the
+team leader, after that Ahmad left us [1], and that Remmy asked for new
+membership. [2]
+
+Then Marja was coming with new ideas and a lot of works, so she become
+the deputy. (again not really officially)
+
+At the council meeting of yesterday it was asked to do election before
+the end of the month. [3]
+This means electing a team leader and a deputy leader.
+
+So:
+- until 11/03 for candidates proposal
+- and from 12/03 to 18/03 the elections. That can be on the ml if there
+is only a few candidates or we can use epoll (a webapps)
+
+I'm again candidate as team leader and Marja as deputy leader.
+
+But that doesn't mean nobody can step forward.
+
+
+1.<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/007012.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/007012.html</A>
+2.<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-bugsquad/2011-August/thread.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-bugsquad/2011-August/thread.html</A>
+3.<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2011/mageia-meeting.2011-08-22-19.11.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2011/mageia-meeting.2011-08-22-19.11.html</A>
+
+Regards,
+--
+Manuel Hiebel (leuhmanu)
+
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad election">manuel at hiebel.eu
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+ <I>Wed Mar 14 16:13:41 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+It seems that I have completely forgotten the state of the election. My
+Apologizes for that.
+So we have only one candidate per position. Marja as deputy and me as
+team leader.
+
+Even there is no other candidates, as we are your representatives in the
+council, I would like to see, an objection if you are not agree or an
+approbation if it's ok.
+
+Thanks !
+
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>On 14/03/12 16:13, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems that I have completely forgotten the state of the election. My
+</I>&gt;<i> Apologizes for that.
+</I>&gt;<i> So we have only one candidate per position. Marja as deputy and me as
+</I>&gt;<i> team leader.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Even there is no other candidates, as we are your representatives in the
+</I>&gt;<i> council, I would like to see, an objection if you are not agree or an
+</I>&gt;<i> approbation if it's ok.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I approve of Manuel being Bug Squad leader again :)
+
+I prefer to say nothing about the deputy leader, since I'm the candidate.
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 14 mars 2012 16:13:41, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems that I have completely forgotten the state of the election. My
+</I>&gt;<i> Apologizes for that.
+</I>&gt;<i> So we have only one candidate per position. Marja as deputy and me as
+</I>&gt;<i> team leader.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Even there is no other candidates, as we are your representatives in the
+</I>&gt;<i> council, I would like to see, an objection if you are not agree or an
+</I>&gt;<i> approbation if it's ok.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I don't know if I can consider myself a real bug squad member, for it's OK
+for me :)
+
+Samuel
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">1331738021.10112.11.camel at vosdook.mh</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>It seems that I have completely forgotten the state of the election. My
+</I>&gt;<i>Apologizes for that.
+</I>&gt;<i>So we have only one candidate per position. Marja as deputy and me as
+</I>&gt;<i>team leader.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Even there is no other candidates, as we are your representatives in the
+</I>&gt;<i>council, I would like to see, an objection if you are not agree or an
+</I>&gt;<i>approbation if it's ok.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Thanks !
+</I>
+Both of you have my vote!
+
+Remmy
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+<PRE>On 14/03/12 16:28, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 14 mars 2012 16:13:41, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It seems that I have completely forgotten the state of the election. My
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Apologizes for that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So we have only one candidate per position. Marja as deputy and me as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> team leader.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Even there is no other candidates, as we are your representatives in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> council, I would like to see, an objection if you are not agree or an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> approbation if it's ok.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks !
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know if I can consider myself a real bug squad member, for it's OK
+</I>&gt;<i> for me :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>Yes you are a real bug squad member, you're on the list and we won't
+allow you to take your name off ;)
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad#Team_members">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad#Team_members</A>
+
+Besides, you undoubtedly hold the record of taking good action in the
+highest amount of bugs reports in one day :)
+
+Marja
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 14 mars 2012 18:39:07, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 14/03/12 16:28, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le mercredi 14 mars 2012 16:13:41, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It seems that I have completely forgotten the state of the election.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; My Apologizes for that.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; So we have only one candidate per position. Marja as deputy and me as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; team leader.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Even there is no other candidates, as we are your representatives in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the council, I would like to see, an objection if you are not agree
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; or an approbation if it's ok.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thanks !
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I don't know if I can consider myself a real bug squad member, for it's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; OK for me :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes you are a real bug squad member, you're on the list and we won't
+</I>&gt;<i> allow you to take your name off ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad#Team_members">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Bug_Squad#Team_members</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Besides, you undoubtedly hold the record of taking good action in the
+</I>&gt;<i> highest amount of bugs reports in one day :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>
+That's an idea, rewards based on bugzilla stats :)
+
+Samuel
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Samuel Verschelde
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20CREDITS%20for%20mga2&In-Reply-To=%3C4FA8F7A3.4090705%40hiebel.eu%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] CREDITS for mga2">manuel at hiebel.eu
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+ <I>Tue May 8 12:38:27 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hello there is a file which contain all contributor of Mageia, and it
+needs to be updated.
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mageia-release/current/SOURCES/CREDITS?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mageia-release/current/SOURCES/CREDITS?view=markup</A>
+
+So my proposal is here, if I have missed or misspelled someone, please
+replay quickly.
+Thanks
+
+ Triage | Ahmad Samir &lt;ahmad78&gt;
+-Triage | Manuel Hiebel &lt;manuel&gt;
++Triage | Dave Hodgins &lt;davidwhodgins&gt;
++Triage | Manuel Hiebel &lt;leuhmanu&gt;
++Triage | Marja van Waes &lt;marja&gt;
++Triage | Remco Rijnders &lt;remmy&gt;
++Triage | Sander Lepik &lt;sander85&gt;
++Triage | Samuel Verschelde &lt;stormi&gt;
++Triage | Thierry Vignaud &lt;tv&gt;
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+ <B>Joe</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20Radeon%203000%20HD%20driver%20problem.&In-Reply-To=%3CBLU165-ds29FF4DA26C1E11B7ACB8FAE160%40phx.gbl%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] Radeon 3000 HD driver problem.">joeyp2695 at hotmail.com
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+ <I>Thu May 10 02:41:26 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>To whom it may concern: I tried to install Mageia 2 RC and at the end of the installation it told me that it could not install my Radeon 3000 HD graphics driver but after I rebooted the system it said that I would be able to manually install it myself. So after rebooting the system an error message came up and said that Plymouth failed to start and would not let me into the OS to fix and install the graphics driver manually. This problem also occurred when I tried to install Mageia 2 Beta 3 a few weeks ago, it seems to either not be able to find or not be able to install it. I&#8217;m not sure which it is, but without installing it at the end of the installation of the program it won&#8217;t let me into the OS after rebooting. I hope this problem can be resolved. I have noticed with other linux distros that graphics drivers seem to be an issue. If you could drop me a line when you fix this problem I would really appreciate it. I really love Mageia and cannot wait to start using it, Mageia 1 was a very good beginning for the first OS. You impressed me, and that says a lot because I&#8217;m not impressed that easy. Thank you, Joey. PS, let me know when its fixed.
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] Radeon 3000 HD driver problem.">marja11 at xs4all.nl
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+<PRE>On 10/05/12 02:41, Joe wrote:
+&gt;<i> To whom it may concern: I tried to install Mageia 2 RC and at the end of
+</I>&gt;<i> the installation it told me that it could not install my Radeon 3000 HD
+</I>&gt;<i> graphics driver but after I rebooted the system it said that I would be
+</I>&gt;<i> able to manually install it myself.
+</I>
+
+Hi Joe,
+
+Thanks for your mail.
+
+Did you read the errata and try this:
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#Radeon_HD_Issues">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#Radeon_HD_Issues</A>
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+<PRE>Le 08/05/2012 12:38, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello there is a file which contain all contributor of Mageia, and it
+</I>&gt;<i> needs to be updated.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mageia-release/current/SOURCES/CREDITS?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mageia-release/current/SOURCES/CREDITS?view=markup</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So my proposal is here, if I have missed or misspelled someone, please
+</I>&gt;<i> replay quickly.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Triage | Ahmad Samir &lt;ahmad78&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> -Triage | Manuel Hiebel &lt;manuel&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> +Triage | Dave Hodgins &lt;davidwhodgins&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> +Triage | Manuel Hiebel &lt;leuhmanu&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> +Triage | Marja van Waes &lt;marja&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> +Triage | Remco Rijnders &lt;remmy&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> +Triage | Sander Lepik &lt;sander85&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> +Triage | Samuel Verschelde &lt;stormi&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> +Triage | Thierry Vignaud &lt;tv&gt;
+</I>If there is no objection I will ask this evening to push it.
+
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
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+We have very many Cauldron bugs that aren't listed as package requests.
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?order=Importance&amp;field0-0-0=component&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;version=Cauldron&amp;type0-0-0=matches&amp;component=Installer&amp;component=RPM%20Packages&amp;component=Release%20%28media%20or%20process%29&amp;component=Security&amp;product=Mageia">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?order=Importance&amp;field0-0-0=component&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;version=Cauldron&amp;type0-0-0=matches&amp;component=Installer&amp;component=RPM%20Packages&amp;component=Release%20%28media%20or%20process%29&amp;component=Security&amp;product=Mageia</A>
+
+I plan to do a mass ping today, because we need to find out whether they
+are still valid for Mageia 2
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+<PRE>Le 26/05/2012 12:20, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have very many Cauldron bugs that aren't listed as package requests.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?order=Importance&amp;field0-0-0=component&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;version=Cauldron&amp;type0-0-0=matches&amp;component=Installer&amp;component=RPM%20Packages&amp;component=Release%20%28media%20or%20process%29&amp;component=Security&amp;product=Mageia">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?order=Importance&amp;field0-0-0=component&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;version=Cauldron&amp;type0-0-0=matches&amp;component=Installer&amp;component=RPM%20Packages&amp;component=Release%20%28media%20or%20process%29&amp;component=Security&amp;product=Mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I plan to do a mass ping today, because we need to find out whether
+</I>&gt;<i> they are still valid for Mageia 2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
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+You know the time of the start and the end of all ping ?
+So (I) can ignore them ?
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You know the time of the start and the end of all ping ?
+</I>&gt;<i> So (I) can ignore them ?
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+13.01 CEST - 13.10 CEST
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+So I need to do a new search for the bugs you reported? :&#254;
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+<PRE>Le 26/05/2012 14:27, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 26-05-12 13:15, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You know the time of the start and the end of all ping ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So (I) can ignore them ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 13.01 CEST - 13.10 CEST
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I need to do a new search for the bugs you reported? :&#254;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+My personals bugs are in a separate folder, so I'll mark yours as read
+for this period in the bugs ml folder, thanks.
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+
+Sometimes we read a suggestion in a bug report that a package should be
+dropped, like
+gtk-qt-engine <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1872#c12">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1872#c12</A> or
+apmd <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4430#c3">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4430#c3</A>
+
+Is it an idea to collect a list of such packages and then send the list
+to mageia-dev ml for comments?
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
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+ <I>Mon May 28 22:56:35 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+To improve all process in the release, we have started a wiki page on
+the council meeting:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia2_Postmortem#Triage">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia2_Postmortem#Triage</A>
+
+The page is here for &quot;determine and analyze elements of the project that
+were successful or unsuccessful&quot; (wikipedia)
+
+Any critic is good, so if you see anything to keep or to change, don't
+hesitate to share.
+Thanks !
+
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+</A><A NAME="119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] CREDITS for mga2
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000124.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass ping
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000128.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia 2 post mortem page
+</A><A NAME="128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Radeon 3000 HD driver problem.
+</A><A NAME="120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joe
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Radeon 3000 HD driver problem.
+</A><A NAME="121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] CREDITS for mga2
+</A><A NAME="119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000120.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Radeon 3000 HD driver problem.
+</A><A NAME="120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joe
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+<LI><A HREF="000121.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Radeon 3000 HD driver problem.
+</A><A NAME="121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] CREDITS for mga2
+</A><A NAME="122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000123.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass ping
+</A><A NAME="123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+</A><A NAME="124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000119.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] CREDITS for mga2
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000122.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] CREDITS for mga2
+</A><A NAME="122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+On 31/10/2012 20:53, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
+&gt;<i> Here is my proposal for the bugs against mga1 which will be End Of
+</I>&gt;<i> Life in December.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After a quick cleaning we have still '312' Mageia 1 bugs. The deal
+</I>&gt;<i> is to close them.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ver%3A1">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ver%3A1</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I will send this message tomorrow or Friday: (text come from
+</I>&gt;<i> fedora)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This message is a reminder that Mageia 1 is nearing its end of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> life. Approximately 30 (thirty) days from now Mageia will stop
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maintaining
+</I>&gt;<i> and issuing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> updates for Mageia 1. At that time this bug will be closed as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> WONTFIX
+</I>&gt;<i> if it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> remains open with a Mageia 'version' of '1'.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> Any objection ?
+</I>
+Good idea. The triage guide would need to be updated, though, because
+there it says we should close as OLD.
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Triage_guide#Thirdly.2C_is_the_bug_filed_on_a_supported_release.3F">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Triage_guide#Thirdly.2C_is_the_bug_filed_on_a_supported_release.3F</A>
+
+WONTFIX is more clear than OLD, though.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (btw, Sander95 proposed to add a specific status EOL instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> WONTFIX which seems not a bad ideas.
+</I>
+That is an even better idea. If it can be implemented, I'll vote for EOL.
+
+&gt;<i> but if we had right on it be sure users, can reopen themselves the
+</I>&gt;<i> bug)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>You mean that if we can set the EOL status, we should make sure that
+users can set the report to another version and reopen it? Yes, that
+should be possible.
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+Hi everyone,
+
+Before I start going over old NEEDINFO bugs again:
+
+According to the triage guide, incomplete bugs should, if the
+requested info isn't supplied, be closed as INVALID.
+
+I don't see anything about originally *valid* bugs, where later
+additional information was requested (e.g. because it was filed
+against cauldron and cauldron changed a lot, or because the involved
+package was updated).
+
+I did close those as OLD if the reporter didn't reply. Was that good
+to do in the first place?
+
+If it was good: I'm now wondering how I can keep myself from
+accidentally closing reports that have *never* been valid, as OLD
+instead of as INVALID, if I don't take a lot more time to read the
+reports :/
+
+Cheers,
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+<PRE>Le 01/11/2012 07:18, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> Any objection ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Good idea. The triage guide would need to be updated, though, because
+</I>&gt;<i> there it says we should close as OLD.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Triage_guide#Thirdly.2C_is_the_bug_filed_on_a_supported_release.3F">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Triage_guide#Thirdly.2C_is_the_bug_filed_on_a_supported_release.3F</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> WONTFIX is more clear than OLD, though.
+</I>
+Arf... thanks (the needinfo is overkill too)
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (btw, Sander95 proposed to add a specific status EOL instead of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> WONTFIX which seems not a bad ideas.
+</I>&gt;<i> That is an even better idea. If it can be implemented, I'll vote for EOL.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but if we had right on it be sure users, can reopen themselves the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bug)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You mean that if we can set the EOL status, we should make sure that
+</I>&gt;<i> users can set the report to another version and reopen it? Yes, that
+</I>&gt;<i> should be possible.
+</I>
+Yes sorry, exactly.
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+<PRE>Le 01/11/2012 08:34, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Before I start going over old NEEDINFO bugs again:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> According to the triage guide, incomplete bugs should, if the
+</I>&gt;<i> requested info isn't supplied, be closed as INVALID.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't see anything about originally*valid* bugs, where later
+</I>&gt;<i> additional information was requested (e.g. because it was filed
+</I>&gt;<i> against cauldron and cauldron changed a lot, or because the involved
+</I>&gt;<i> package was updated).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did close those as OLD if the reporter didn't reply. Was that good
+</I>&gt;<i> to do in the first place?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If it was good: I'm now wondering how I can keep myself from
+</I>&gt;<i> accidentally closing reports that have*never* been valid, as OLD
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of as INVALID, if I don't take a lot more time to read the
+</I>&gt;<i> reports :/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>
+Well the triage guide was originally copy-paste from mdv, so we can do
+whatever we want too.
+And beside for ours stats, or angry users, I guess make it simple
+without detailing doesn't shock anyone.
+
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+On 01/11/2012 10:22, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 01/11/2012 08:34, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Before I start going over old NEEDINFO bugs again:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> According to the triage guide, incomplete bugs should, if the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> requested info isn't supplied, be closed as INVALID.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't see anything about originally*valid* bugs, where later
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> additional information was requested (e.g. because it was filed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> against cauldron and cauldron changed a lot, or because the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> involved package was updated).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I did close those as OLD if the reporter didn't reply. Was that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> good to do in the first place?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If it was good: I'm now wondering how I can keep myself from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> accidentally closing reports that have*never* been valid, as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OLD instead of as INVALID, if I don't take a lot more time to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> read the reports :/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers, Marja
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well the triage guide was originally copy-paste from mdv, so we can
+</I>&gt;<i> do whatever we want too. And beside for ours stats, or angry users,
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess make it simple without detailing doesn't shock anyone.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+So use &quot;OLD&quot; in all cases, even for reports that have never contained
+enough information to be valid?
+
+That would be the easiest for me, it would mean I can just continue
+working like I did, but it would also need an update of the triage guide.
+
+
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+Hi Manuel,
+
+Did you receive &quot;Stop sending me emails. I will report you&quot; mails from
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">joep2695 at msn.com</A> and from <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">joeyp2695 at hotmail.com</A> in reply to your
+messages to mageia-bugsquad ml, too?
+
+He is subscribed to our ml with both e-mail addresses.
+
+Cheers,
+marja
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
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+<PRE>Le 01/11/2012 11:44, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi Manuel,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Did you receive &quot;Stop sending me emails. I will report you&quot; mails from
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">joep2695 at msn.com</A> and <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">fromjoeyp2695 at hotmail.com</A> in reply to your
+</I>&gt;<i> messages to mageia-bugsquad ml, too?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> He is subscribed to our ml with both e-mail addresses.
+</I>
+Yes I did, I ask him to remove himself from the list.
+
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+<PRE>Le 31/10/2012 20:53, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Any objection ?
+</I>Ok so no objection.
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+<LI><A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [council] Re: Proposal against the Mga1 End Of Life bugs
+</A><A NAME="183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] INVALID - OLD
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Proposal against the Mga1 End Of Life bugs
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] INVALID - OLD
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] INVALID - OLD
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+Hi all,
+
+Yesterday, when I added my absence to the table in the wiki, I forgot
+to mail the teams I'm in.
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Absent">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Absent</A>
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+Sorry about that.
+
+Cheers,
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+On 30/09/2012 18:23, Marja van Waes wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 28/09/2012 10:59, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 27/09/2012 14:34, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi !
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If plans haven't changed, one of the next blogs will be about
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> our leader, leuhmanu :-D
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nothing in my mailbox for now 0:)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe I should ping someone ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That might lead to a lot of new bug squad members joining us.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> However, until now we have *not* been very successful in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> keeping new members, nor in helping them to get started. :-(
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> One thing that at least I did wrong: I expected that what
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> worked for me, would work for them, without wondering whether
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> they'd maybe be very different.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What made it easier for me to get started and do a lot for bug
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> squad (until I ended up in other teams) was:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. that I liked to read the documentation 2. that I had Mdk +
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mdv+ Mga experience 3. that, after initially not really having
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> time, I was able to free up 16 hours a week 4. that the idea
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that everyone could see my silliest mistakes, didn't terrify
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> me (that's one of the upsides of getting older ;) )
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2+4 seems &#224; require for me to not loose time for the new
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> contrib, aka have a little experience in the rh/mdv/mga world and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> do not be afraid to make a blunder, there are enough people who
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> read bugs@ to correct a mistake. And of courses we are here for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> any question (but a response can take a little time).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree on making 2 + 4 requires. Is anyone against that?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Is this OK?:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/How_to_start_triaging#Who_can_learn_to_triage_bug_reports.3F">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/How_to_start_triaging#Who_can_learn_to_triage_bug_reports.3F</A>
+
+
+I talked about knowing Mga well or having ample experience with those
+other distro's....., returning to this mail I see leuhmanu talked
+about a little experience :/
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+Sorry, dear teams.
+
+I'm taking a time out as (assistant) (deputy) leader. If volunteers
+are available to take those functions, I'll give them to them.
+
+(That is: deputy for bugsquad, leader for docteam, assistant leader
+for forums team)
+
+I have made a big mistake, that has damaged Mageia. Not that I could
+have avoided it, I miss too much leadership talent for that.
+
+I'll try to help with easy tasks that I do have a talent for.
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
+
+
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+<PRE>Le 21/10/2012 17:12, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we will hold this week Council meeting on Tuesday, 19:00 UTC (21:00
+</I>&gt;<i> Paris time), on #mageia-meeting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As a reminder, all Council members are expected, and I strongly
+</I>&gt;<i> recommend to board members (Damien, Thomas, Oliver) to attend this
+</I>&gt;<i> meeting too, if that's possible (Anne is on a sick-leave for the time
+</I>&gt;<i> being).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> - teams status update
+</I>
+I will certainly not be here to do lack of Internet the week.
+
+The bugsquad team is like other teams, we need more active people.
+I still don't know how to make contribution more sustainable, but we
+have people that read bugs@ (or not) witch are very helpful.
+As for myself I have less time than before too.
+&gt;<i> - post alpha2 debriefing
+</I>&gt;<i> - quick open questions
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We'll fit it in one hour. Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+Bugsquad, if someone wants to represent the team, feel free to do so,
+come on #mageia-meeting IRC channel on Freenode.
+I will anyway read logs.
+Thanks
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
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+ <I>Mon Oct 29 20:47:21 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE> From the Council:
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+
+You may be aware that there have been some inter-personal issues, which
+have resulted in two prominent Mageia contributors suspending their
+contributions to our community for an unknown period.
+
+We wish to remind members of all teams of the following steps to try and
+prevent disputes getting out of hand.
+
+1. Please review the &quot;Code of Conduct&quot;
+ <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/</A>
+
+ In addition, please keep in mind, that with text only communications,
+emotions such as sarcasm, or humour, do not always carry across their
+intended meaning. Please be careful in how things are worded, to avoid
+saying things that might be interpreted as an insult or an attack.
+
+ Always try to assume the other person has good intentions, and is
+trying to help the project.
+
+ Be aware that the person reading a message may not have the same
+understanding of the grammar or syntax of the language it is written in
+(Often English is being written by non-native speakers and may be
+understood quite differently by another non-native speaker from a
+different region or country)
+
+2. Please be aware that the Council and Board are always available
+(Please ask your team leader for details) and can help to mediate in the
+case of personal differences or team disputes. Please don't let issues
+reach a stage where such mediation cannot help.
+
+3. Team leaders should be constantly aware of the possibility of
+differences becoming an issue or a threat to the team and ultimately to
+the success of our community and must inform the Council/Board if they
+see a conflict developing.
+
+4. Board members need to inform other board members of any conflict
+arising, of progress and hopefully of resolution.
+
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
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+<PRE>Here is my proposal for the bugs against mga1 which will be End Of Life
+in December.
+
+After a quick cleaning we have still '312' Mageia 1 bugs. The deal is to
+close them.
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ver%3A1">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ver%3A1</A>
+
+I will send this message tomorrow or Friday:
+(text come from fedora)
+
+ &gt;This message is a reminder that Mageia 1 is nearing its end of life.
+ &gt;Approximately 30 (thirty) days from now Mageia will stop maintaining
+and issuing
+ &gt;updates for Mageia 1. At that time this bug will be closed as WONTFIX
+if it
+ &gt;remains open with a Mageia 'version' of '1'.
+ &gt;
+ &gt;Package Maintainer: If you wish for this bug to remain open because
+you plan to
+ &gt;fix it in a currently maintained version, simply change the 'version'
+to a later
+ &gt;Mageia version prior to Mageia 1's end of life.
+ &gt;
+ &gt;Bug Reporter: Thank you for reporting this issue and we are sorry that
+we may not
+ &gt;be able to fix it before Mageia 1 is end of life. If you would still
+like to see
+ &gt;this bug fixed and are able to reproduce it against a later version of
+Mageia,
+ &gt;you are encouraged to click on &quot;Version&quot; and change it against that
+version
+ &gt;of Mageia.
+ &gt;
+ &gt;Although we aim to fix as many bugs as possible during every releases
+lifetime,
+ &gt;sometimes those efforts are overtaken by events. Often a more recent
+Mageia
+ &gt;release includes newer upstream software that fixes bugs or makes them
+obsolete.
+
+
+And for the 1rst December:
+
+ &gt;Mageia 1 changed to end-of-life (EOL) status on ''1rst December''.
+Mageia 1 is no
+ &gt;longer maintained, which means that it will not receive any further
+security or
+ &gt;bug fix updates. As a result we are closing this bug.
+ &gt;
+ &gt;If you can reproduce this bug against a currently maintained version
+of Mageia
+ &gt;please feel free to click on &quot;Version&quot; change it against that version
+of Mageia.
+ &gt;And reopen this bug.
+ &gt;
+ &gt;Thank you for reporting this bug and we are sorry it could not be fixed.
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Maintenance_of_bug_reports#End_of_life_.28EOL.29_Release">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Maintenance_of_bug_reports#End_of_life_.28EOL.29_Release</A>
+Any objection ?
+
+(btw, Sander95 proposed to add a specific status EOL instead of WONTFIX
+which seems not a bad ideas.
+but if we had right on it be sure users, can reopen themselves the bug)
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+<LI><A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] all the new bug squad members we are going to have
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+Hi everyone,
+
+About this list:
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+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=sysadmin&amp;sharer_id=69">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=sysadmin&amp;sharer_id=69</A>
+
+I understand some of those bugs can only be worked on by someone who
+has sysadmin access.
+
+Is that correct?
+
+If not, stop reading, thanks for your attention :-D
+
+
+
+If so, shall we ask people who want to help by working on them, to put
+&quot;NEEDDATA&quot; on the whiteboard because the needed data are only
+available to people in sysadmin team?
+
+The search for people who want to help, but are not in the team, could
+then be replaced by a search that removes the bugs with &quot;NEEDDATA&quot; on
+the whiteboard.
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
+
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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20Bugzilla%3A%20NEEDDATA%20tag%20on%20whiteboard%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201209231356.46210.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"
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+<PRE>We must be careful about adding new keywords, and try to make sure people
+understand them. I must admit the meaning of NEEDDATA here is not very clear
+to me. All those bugs are already assigned to sysadmins, sysadmins should be
+the ones who triage their own bugs once assigned, in my opinion.
+
+Samuel
+
+Le dimanche 23 septembre 2012 10:44:45, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> About this list:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=sy">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=sy</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> sadmin&amp;sharer_id=69
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I understand some of those bugs can only be worked on by someone who
+</I>&gt;<i> has sysadmin access.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is that correct?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If not, stop reading, thanks for your attention :-D
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If so, shall we ask people who want to help by working on them, to put
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;NEEDDATA&quot; on the whiteboard because the needed data are only
+</I>&gt;<i> available to people in sysadmin team?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The search for people who want to help, but are not in the team, could
+</I>&gt;<i> then be replaced by a search that removes the bugs with &quot;NEEDDATA&quot; on
+</I>&gt;<i> the whiteboard.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+On 23/09/2012 13:56, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+&gt;<i> We must be careful about adding new keywords, and try to make sure
+</I>&gt;<i> people understand them. I must admit the meaning of NEEDDATA here
+</I>&gt;<i> is not very clear to me. All those bugs are already assigned to
+</I>&gt;<i> sysadmins, sysadmins should be the ones who triage their own bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> once assigned, in my opinion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Sorry for not having been clear. The reason I cc'd mageia-bugsquad, is
+because, if anything like this would be needed (that in the first
+place) and done, bugsquad should know about it.
+
+Only sysadmins and people helping with sysadmin bugs should be the
+ones, *if* this or a similar proposal is accepted, to add this on the
+whiteboard.
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+<PRE>Le 23/09/2012 14:07, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 23/09/2012 13:56, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We must be careful about adding new keywords, and try to make sure
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people understand them. I must admit the meaning of NEEDDATA here
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is not very clear to me. All those bugs are already assigned to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sysadmins, sysadmins should be the ones who triage their own bugs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> once assigned, in my opinion.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry for not having been clear. The reason I cc'd mageia-bugsquad, is
+</I>&gt;<i> because, if anything like this would be needed (that in the first
+</I>&gt;<i> place) and done, bugsquad should know about it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Only sysadmins and people helping with sysadmin bugs should be the
+</I>&gt;<i> ones, *if* this or a similar proposal is accepted, to add this on the
+</I>&gt;<i> whiteboard.
+</I>
+NEEDDATA seems a little confuse then ( and personally I don't care
+anymore about sysadmin bugs)
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+On 23/09/2012 20:15, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> NEEDDATA seems a little confuse then ( and personally I don't care
+</I>&gt;<i> anymore about sysadmin bugs)
+</I>
+If this is done, they might come up with a better name.
+
+The idea was to make it easier for people who want to help with
+sysadmin bugs but are not in that team, to more easily find the ones
+they can work on without needing sysadmin rights, so without needing
+more data then publicly available.
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+Hi everyone,
+
+If plans haven't changed, one of the next blogs will be about our
+leader, leuhmanu :-D
+
+That might lead to a lot of new bug squad members joining us.
+
+However, until now we have *not* been very successful in keeping new
+members, nor in helping them to get started. :-(
+
+One thing that at least I did wrong: I expected that what worked for
+me, would work for them, without wondering whether they'd maybe be
+very different.
+
+What made it easier for me to get started and do a lot for bug squad
+(until I ended up in other teams) was:
+
+1. that I liked to read the documentation
+2. that I had Mdk + Mdv+ Mga experience
+3. that, after initially not really having time, I was able to free up
+ 16 hours a week
+4. that the idea that everyone could see my silliest mistakes, didn't
+terrify me (that's one of the upsides of getting older ;) )
+
+However, a new member might dislike reading documentation (but if
+that's the case, will he like reading bug reports?), might have no
+real Mga or similar experience, might have only a few hours a week
+available and might feel very uncomfortable about everything that he
+does in Bugzilla being visible &quot;for ever&quot;.
+
+So, instead of saying: &quot;read our documentation, read some bugs and
+then start&quot;, we should maybe first inquire who the new person is. How
+much time can he dedicate, how well does he know Mageia or other Linux
+distro's, is he used to working with the command line, does he like to
+read?
+
+Also, I know we don't have time to mentor people. However to make
+things less hard for newcomers, would it be an idea to let them start
+with doing reports about package requests or (if they have more Linux
+experience) needinfo bugs?
+
+Or should we consider to *make* time for mentoring?
+
+WDYT?
+
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+<PRE>Le 27/09/2012 14:34, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>Hi !
+&gt;<i> If plans haven't changed, one of the next blogs will be about our
+</I>&gt;<i> leader, leuhmanu :-D
+</I>Nothing in my mailbox for now 0:)
+&gt;<i> That might lead to a lot of new bug squad members joining us.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, until now we have *not* been very successful in keeping new
+</I>&gt;<i> members, nor in helping them to get started. :-(
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One thing that at least I did wrong: I expected that what worked for
+</I>&gt;<i> me, would work for them, without wondering whether they'd maybe be
+</I>&gt;<i> very different.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What made it easier for me to get started and do a lot for bug squad
+</I>&gt;<i> (until I ended up in other teams) was:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. that I liked to read the documentation
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. that I had Mdk + Mdv+ Mga experience
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. that, after initially not really having time, I was able to free up
+</I>&gt;<i> 16 hours a week
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. that the idea that everyone could see my silliest mistakes, didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> terrify me (that's one of the upsides of getting older ;) )
+</I>2+4 seems &#224; require for me to not loose time for the new contrib, aka
+have a little experience in the rh/mdv/mga world and do not be afraid to
+make a blunder, there are enough people who read bugs@ to correct a mistake.
+And of courses we are here for any question (but a response can take a
+little time).
+
+&gt;<i> However, a new member might dislike reading documentation (but if
+</I>&gt;<i> that's the case, will he like reading bug reports?), might have no
+</I>&gt;<i> real Mga or similar experience, might have only a few hours a week
+</I>&gt;<i> available and might feel very uncomfortable about everything that he
+</I>&gt;<i> does in Bugzilla being visible &quot;for ever&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, instead of saying: &quot;read our documentation, read some bugs and
+</I>&gt;<i> then start&quot;, we should maybe first inquire who the new person is. How
+</I>&gt;<i> much time can he dedicate, how well does he know Mageia or other Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> distro's, is he used to working with the command line, does he like to
+</I>&gt;<i> read?
+</I>Yep, than will help to better assist newcomers.
+&gt;<i> Also, I know we don't have time to mentor people. However to make
+</I>&gt;<i> things less hard for newcomers, would it be an idea to let them start
+</I>&gt;<i> with doing reports about package requests or (if they have more Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> experience) needinfo bugs?
+</I>I don't see what we can ask for package requests (beside make them more
+readable, which will take 10mins (?) )
+
+For the needinfo bugs of courses, they could said if they reproduce,
+provide more info if they can etc, it should be our jobs too, but with
+our resources it's hard to do that for the most of issue.
+
+&gt;<i> Or should we consider to *make* time for mentoring?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>Why not, we could start with the good practice in the bugzilla, then
+each 1/2 week a new categories of bugs (installer/media/segfault
+bugs/specific rpms/etc)
+
+btw: as you have certainly see, I have less time than before, but can
+try to help newcomers if possible.
+(and I don't know why, with that above I have less patience for doing
+something :s)
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+On 28/09/2012 10:59, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 27/09/2012 14:34, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi !
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If plans haven't changed, one of the next blogs will be about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> our leader, leuhmanu :-D
+</I>&gt;<i> Nothing in my mailbox for now 0:)
+</I>
+Maybe I should ping someone ;)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> That might lead to a lot of new bug squad members joining us.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> However, until now we have *not* been very successful in keeping
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> new members, nor in helping them to get started. :-(
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> One thing that at least I did wrong: I expected that what worked
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for me, would work for them, without wondering whether they'd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maybe be very different.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What made it easier for me to get started and do a lot for bug
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> squad (until I ended up in other teams) was:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. that I liked to read the documentation 2. that I had Mdk +
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mdv+ Mga experience 3. that, after initially not really having
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> time, I was able to free up 16 hours a week 4. that the idea that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> everyone could see my silliest mistakes, didn't terrify me
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (that's one of the upsides of getting older ;) )
+</I>&gt;<i> 2+4 seems &#224; require for me to not loose time for the new contrib,
+</I>&gt;<i> aka have a little experience in the rh/mdv/mga world and do not be
+</I>&gt;<i> afraid to make a blunder, there are enough people who read bugs@ to
+</I>&gt;<i> correct a mistake. And of courses we are here for any question (but
+</I>&gt;<i> a response can take a little time).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I agree on making 2 + 4 requires. Is anyone against that?
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> However, a new member might dislike reading documentation (but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if that's the case, will he like reading bug reports?), might
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have no real Mga or similar experience, might have only a few
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hours a week available and might feel very uncomfortable about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> everything that he does in Bugzilla being visible &quot;for ever&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, instead of saying: &quot;read our documentation, read some bugs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and then start&quot;, we should maybe first inquire who the new person
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is. How much time can he dedicate, how well does he know Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or other Linux distro's, is he used to working with the command
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> line, does he like to read?
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep, than will help to better assist newcomers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also, I know we don't have time to mentor people. However to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> make things less hard for newcomers, would it be an idea to let
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> them start with doing reports about package requests or (if they
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have more Linux experience) needinfo bugs?
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't see what we can ask for package requests (beside make them
+</I>&gt;<i> more readable, which will take 10mins (?) )
+</I>
+For old ones: check whether they got packaged without anyone noticing
+(that happened before) and, if they got packaged for cauldron only,
+whether it is valid to package them for 2 + 1 as well.
+For new ones - and maybe some of the old ones too: check whether they
+were filed according to the rules -including good readability - and
+whether the package was in Mdv 2010.x
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the needinfo bugs of courses, they could said if they
+</I>&gt;<i> reproduce, provide more info if they can etc, it should be our jobs
+</I>&gt;<i> too, but with our resources it's hard to do that for the most of
+</I>&gt;<i> issue.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Or should we consider to *make* time for mentoring?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not, we could start with the good practice in the bugzilla,
+</I>&gt;<i> then each 1/2 week a new categories of bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> (installer/media/segfault bugs/specific rpms/etc)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> btw: as you have certainly see, I have less time than before, but
+</I>&gt;<i> can try to help newcomers if possible. (and I don't know why, with
+</I>&gt;<i> that above I have less patience for doing something :s)
+</I>
+Don't worry, having little time makes impatient, that is normal. If
+you do help newcomers, then please forget about all the bugs you'd
+normally do. It is impossible to do both.
+
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Sep 23 10:44:45 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Sep 30 18:23:33 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 8<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-sysadm] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] all the new bug squad members we are going to have
+</A><A NAME="173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-sysadm] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-sysadm] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] all the new bug squad members we are going to have
+</A><A NAME="172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] all the new bug squad members we are going to have
+</A><A NAME="174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Sep 30 18:23:33 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 30 18:24:12 CEST 2012</i>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Sep 23 10:44:45 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Sep 30 18:23:33 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 8<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-sysadm] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-sysadm] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-sysadm] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] all the new bug squad members we are going to have
+</A><A NAME="172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] all the new bug squad members we are going to have
+</A><A NAME="173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] all the new bug squad members we are going to have
+</A><A NAME="174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Sep 30 18:23:33 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 30 18:24:12 CEST 2012</i>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Sep 23 10:44:45 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Sep 30 18:23:33 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 8<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-sysadm] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-sysadm] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-sysadm] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] all the new bug squad members we are going to have
+</A><A NAME="172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] all the new bug squad members we are going to have
+</A><A NAME="173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] all the new bug squad members we are going to have
+</A><A NAME="174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Sep 30 18:23:33 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 30 18:24:12 CEST 2012</i>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Sep 23 10:44:45 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Sep 30 18:23:33 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 8<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01348389885- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01348389885-01348401406- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01348389885-01348401406-01348402035- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-sysadm] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01348389885-01348401406-01348402035-01348424129- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-sysadm] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01348389885-01348401406-01348402035-01348424129-01348429327- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [Mageia-sysadm] Bugzilla: NEEDDATA tag on whiteboard?
+</A><A NAME="171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01348749252- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] all the new bug squad members we are going to have
+</A><A NAME="172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01348749252-01348822779- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] all the new bug squad members we are going to have
+</A><A NAME="173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01348749252-01348822779-01349022213- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] all the new bug squad members we are going to have
+</A><A NAME="174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Sep 30 18:23:33 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 30 18:24:12 CEST 2012</i>
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+ <B>Mageia Sysadmins</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-bugsquad%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-bugsquad%5D%20Mailing%20list%20migration%3A%20this%20list%20is%20closing&In-Reply-To=%3C5161e658.wGzJzfSe9xMrFh0r%25sysadmin%40group.mageia.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] Mailing list migration: this list is closing">sysadmin at group.mageia.org
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Sun Apr 7 23:34:16 CEST 2013</I>
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+<!--beginarticle-->
+<PRE>When the Mageia project was started, it didn't have any server. Fortunatly
+people from zarb.org proposed to host the basic project infrastructure
+(mainly the website, wiki and mailing lists) until the project can have
+its own servers. Mageia.Org now have a few servers since October 2010
+(thanks to donations for the servers and Lost Oasis and Gandi for the
+hosting), but until now the existing mailing lists hosted by zarb.org
+had not been migrated to the Mageia mailing lists server. It is now time
+to do it and close this mailing list.
+
+This mailing list will be closed in coming hours and is now replaced by
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">bugsquad-discuss at ml.mageia.org.</A>
+
+The new mailing list requires a Mageia Identity account
+(&lt;<A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A>&gt;) for subscription :
+ - if you have an identity account using the same address as subscribed
+ on this mailing list, you should be automatically subscribed to the
+ new mailing list and should have received a subscription notification
+ - if you don't have an identity account yet, or with a different email
+ address, you need to manually subscribe to the new mailing list
+
+The URL for the new list is :
+&#160;&#160;&#160; <A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/bugsquad-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/bugsquad-discuss</A>
+
+You can find more details about mailing lists subscription and available
+lists on this page :
+&#160;&#160;&#160; <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mailing_lists">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mailing_lists</A>
+
+The archives for the old mailing lists will be available on
+<A HREF="http://archives.mageia.org/">http://archives.mageia.org/</A> (in a few days).
+
+</PRE>
+
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+</A><A NAME="226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mageia Sysadmins
+</I>
+
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+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Apr 7 23:34:16 CEST 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Apr 7 23:42:12 CEST 2013</i>
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+- -------- Original Message --------
+Subject: [doc-discuss] FOSDEM coming up, will you meet us there?
+Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:27:09 +0100
+From: Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">oliver.bgr at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Reply-To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">doc-discuss at ml.mageia.org</A>
+To: Mageia development mailing-list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;,
+Mageia general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;, List
+dedicated to internationalisation issues &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A>&gt;,
+ &quot;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">doc-discuss at ml.mageia.org</A>&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">doc-discuss at ml.mageia.org</A>&gt;,
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">atelier-discuss at ml.mageia.org</A>
+
+Hi folks,
+
+FOSDEM is nearing on the horizon.
+The conference will take place on February 2nd and 3rd in Bruxelles.
+It is a great place to meet other Open Source guis and discuss
+everything you want.
+
+As tha last two years, we will have a booth at FOSDEM and we will have
+our General Assembly there.
+
+If you want to come, please do register here:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2013">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2013</A>
+
+If you are coming to FOSDEM, we do need people for the booth and of
+course for the Saturday night dinner!
+
+Cheers and see you in Bruxelles,
+
+Oliver
+
+- --
+Oliver Burger aka obgr_seneca
+
+Mageia contributor
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello, After a month trying I get the feeling that Mageia is a good distro but not for me.I used to fine tune everything when I use source based distro's or FreeBSD and I miss that on Mageia. So im quitting on bugsquad also. I regret it also because it was a fun team to work with. Im looking for a expert who can help me to unsubscribe from the ML because when I try it I see a error page that something is wrong with the webserver. I wish you all the luck. Roelof Wobben
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>
+We'll miss you :( .
+
+However, thanks a lot for the work you've done :-D
+
+Can you give examples of things you used to fin tune, but don't manage
+to fine tune in Mageia?
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+</I>&gt;<i> Im looking for a expert who can help me to unsubscribe from the ML because when I try it I see a error page that something is wrong with the webserver.
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+<PRE>On 13/01/13 20:24, Roelof Wobben wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry I mean the bugzilla mailling list Roelof
+</I>
+Well, I just checked the members here:
+<A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/bugs">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/bugs</A>
+
+you're no longer a member of that list, so you unsubscribed successfully.
+
+Or do I again misunderstand?
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+<PRE>Le 13/01/2013 19:14, Roelof Wobben a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After a month trying I get the feeling that Mageia is a good distro
+</I>&gt;<i> but not for me.
+</I>&gt;<i> I used to fine tune everything when I use source based distro's or
+</I>&gt;<i> FreeBSD and I miss that on Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So im quitting on bugsquad also. I regret it also because it was a fun
+</I>&gt;<i> team to work with.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Im looking for a expert who can help me to unsubscribe from the ML
+</I>&gt;<i> because when I try it I see a error page that something is wrong with
+</I>&gt;<i> the webserver.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wish you all the luck.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Roelof Wobben
+</I>
+Arf, sorry that Mageia was not for you. Be happy on any other distro !
+And thanks for your work at the bugzilla !
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What I mean with fine tuning is that I can decide what options a package can use.With Gentoo or Freebsd you can decide if you want to use a option like can a pacakage use png.So I think Im going back to source based distro's. I want to thank you again for the explantions and help and patience you had with me. Roelof
+</I>
+
+
+For which package can you choose to use png or not in Gentoo?
+
+Sorry for asking, but I never used Gentoo or FreeBSD, so I still don't
+understand :-/
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+ <B>Claire Robinson</B>
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+<PRE>On 13/01/13 20:02, Marja van Waes wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 13/01/13 20:53, Roelof Wobben wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What I mean with fine tuning is that I can decide what options a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> package can use.With Gentoo or Freebsd you can decide if you want to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> use a option like can a pacakage use png.So I think Im going back to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> source based distro's. I want to thank you again for the explantions
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and help and patience you had with me. Roelof
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For which package can you choose to use png or not in Gentoo?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry for asking, but I never used Gentoo or FreeBSD, so I still don't
+</I>&gt;<i> understand :-/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+It's all the build options Marja. Source based distros allow you to
+configure build flags however you like so you can enable certain things
+or disable others you don't use. The packages are then built when they
+are installed rather than being pre-built on the repository with some
+default build options.
+
+Some people prefer the level of granular control it gives them. It's a
+trade-off though. Some say it makes their system faster or it uses less
+memory etc but it can also be a bit of a faff to configure.
+
+I wasn't aware freebsd was like that though. Horses for courses.
+
+It's a shame to see him go, he was doing fantastic work on bugzilla and
+seems a nice guy too. Wish him luck :)
+
+Claire
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+&gt;<i> On 13/01/13 20:02, Marja van Waes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 13/01/13 20:53, Roelof Wobben wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What I mean with fine tuning is that I can decide what options a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> package can use.With Gentoo or Freebsd you can decide if you want to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> use a option like can a pacakage use png.So I think Im going back to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> source based distro's. I want to thank you again for the explantions
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and help and patience you had with me. Roelof
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For which package can you choose to use png or not in Gentoo?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry for asking, but I never used Gentoo or FreeBSD, so I still don't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> understand :-/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's all the build options Marja. Source based distros allow you to
+</I>&gt;<i> configure build flags however you like so you can enable certain things
+</I>&gt;<i> or disable others you don't use. The packages are then built when they
+</I>&gt;<i> are installed rather than being pre-built on the repository with some
+</I>&gt;<i> default build options.
+</I>
+Thanks for explaining, Claire :)
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some people prefer the level of granular control it gives them. It's a
+</I>&gt;<i> trade-off though. Some say it makes their system faster or it uses less
+</I>&gt;<i> memory etc but it can also be a bit of a faff to configure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wasn't aware freebsd was like that though. Horses for courses.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's a shame to see him go, he was doing fantastic work on bugzilla and
+</I>&gt;<i> seems a nice guy too. Wish him luck :)
+</I>
+Roelof unsubscribed from this ml too, so To'ing him, too :).
+
+Roelof, in case you didn't see, this is what leuhmanu wrote to you,
+yesterday:
+
+ &gt;
+ &gt; Arf, sorry that Mageia was not for you. Be happy on any other distro !
+ &gt; And thanks for your work at the bugzilla !
+
+
+Cheers and good luck!
+Marja
+
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+<PRE>On 14/01/13 21:02, Oliver Burger wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> just a little reminder for those of you, who are planning to come to
+</I>&gt;<i> FOSDEM and have not registered in the wiki yet:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2013">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2013</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We do need some more people at the booth and we should know, how many
+</I>&gt;<i> people we will be for Saturday night's dinner.
+</I>&gt;<i> So if you are planning to come, go to the wiki and register there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
+I suppose <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-i18n at mandrivauser.de</A> should have been
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-i18n at mageia.org</A> :-D
+
+Last week I did something similar, I sent a mail to i18n-nl instead of
+to i18n ;-)
+
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+<PRE>Forwarding from qa-d.
+
+-------- Original Message --------
+Subject: [qa-discuss] Packagers meeting
+Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:38:17 +0100
+From: Anne Nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Reply-To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">qa-discuss at ml.mageia.org</A>
+To: Mageia development mailing-list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;, qa-discuss
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">qa-discuss at ml.mageia.org</A>&gt;
+
+Hi there
+
+We will have our weekly meeting tomorrow, 20h UTC:
+
+- quick beta 2 review
+- release critical bugs review (this one should take most of our time)
+
+As usual feel free to propose a topic. QA and bug triage team, could you
+please be around?
+
+Cheers
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>On 04/06/12 15:14, Matteo wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm Matteo from the Italian community.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you think we could implement somehow localized bug reports?
+</I>&gt;<i> Not everyone is able to read/write english language but maybe they are
+</I>&gt;<i> able to do tests, find bugs and then write bug reports using their
+</I>&gt;<i> native languages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We could involve local communities that could be of help translating
+</I>&gt;<i> this kind of bug reports.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYT
+</I>&gt;<i> - --
+</I>&gt;<i> Matteo
+</I>
+
+Just replying so that we won't forget about this.
+It is a good question and yes, many users don't speak English well
+enough to file a bug report.
+
+If someone doesn't speak English, I think the best thing to do, is to
+report the bug in his local forum and ask someone to do the English bug
+report for him (of course after checking whether someone else already
+reported it).
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+<PRE>Le mardi 29 janvier 2013 17:36:44, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> If someone doesn't speak English, I think the best thing to do, is to
+</I>&gt;<i> report the bug in his local forum and ask someone to do the English bug
+</I>&gt;<i> report for him (of course after checking whether someone else already
+</I>&gt;<i> reported it).
+</I>
+I fully agree, few people are able to write in english or don't dare to do it.
+
+--
+Pierre Jarillon - <A HREF="http://pjarillon.free.fr/">http://pjarillon.free.fr/</A>
+Vice-pr&#233;sident de l'ABUL : <A HREF="http://abul.org">http://abul.org</A>
+Microsoft is for computers what McDonald is for French gastronomy
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000209.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [doc-discuss] FOSDEM reminder
+</A><A NAME="209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000211.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [local-discuss] A proposal to be discussed
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000212.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] [local-discuss] A proposal to be discussed
+</A><A NAME="212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
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+<LI><A HREF="000201.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] ending
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+<I>Roelof Wobben
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<I>Claire Robinson
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+Like every years it's time for team elections, and as said in the
+council [1], this has to be done before the March 16th.
+
+Team representatives are here, as its name indicates, to represent the
+team on the council, ie, say what is done, what will be done. So we can
+a global view of the project, and make decision if necessary.
+we will need a leader and a deputy.
+
+Is anyone interested in these positions ?
+We can wait until March 8th for candidates. Personally I renew my
+application.
+
+Feel free to ask any questions (related or not to the subject) and
+thanks for any of your actions on one of the 9230 bugs !
+
+1.
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2013/mageia-meeting.2013-02-11-20.00.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2013/mageia-meeting.2013-02-11-20.00.html</A>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections">marja11 at xs4all.nl
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+ <I>Sat Mar 2 11:26:04 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On 01/03/13 23:47, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like every years it's time for team elections, and as said in the
+</I>&gt;<i> council [1], this has to be done before the March 16th.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Team representatives are here, as its name indicates, to represent the
+</I>&gt;<i> team on the council, ie, say what is done, what will be done. So we can
+</I>&gt;<i> a global view of the project, and make decision if necessary.
+</I>&gt;<i> we will need a leader and a deputy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is anyone interested in these positions ?
+</I>&gt;<i> We can wait until March 8th for candidates. Personally I renew my
+</I>&gt;<i> application.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Feel free to ask any questions (related or not to the subject) and
+</I>&gt;<i> thanks for any of your actions on one of the 9230 bugs !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2013/mageia-meeting.2013-02-11-20.00.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2013/mageia-meeting.2013-02-11-20.00.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks a lot for your willingness to be our leader again, leuhmanu!!
+
+
+I'm losing touch with what is happening in BugSquad and Bugzilla, I feel
+I can't be a good deputy any more if that isn't solved.
+
+* The best solution would be, if _someone_else_, who knows more about
+what is happening in Bugzilla and BugSquad, becomes our deputy.
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+If no one is available, then there are two possible solutions:
+
+* We create a small team of assistants, who together share the
+responsibilities of the deputy. I'm available for that if at least remmy
+and sander85 become part of that team, too.
+
+(and, more complicated:)
+
+* We start having meetings or reports/discussions over the mailing lists
+in which the most important things are mentioned. That would make it
+easier for me to know what is going on and then I could be deputy again.
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>On 02/03/13 11:26, Marja van Waes wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 01/03/13 23:47, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Like every years it's time for team elections, and as said in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> council [1], this has to be done before the March 16th.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Team representatives are here, as its name indicates, to represent the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> team on the council, ie, say what is done, what will be done. So we can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a global view of the project, and make decision if necessary.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we will need a leader and a deputy.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is anyone interested in these positions ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We can wait until March 8th for candidates. Personally I renew my
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> application.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Feel free to ask any questions (related or not to the subject) and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thanks for any of your actions on one of the 9230 bugs !
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2013/mageia-meeting.2013-02-11-20.00.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2013/mageia-meeting.2013-02-11-20.00.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks a lot for your willingness to be our leader again, leuhmanu!!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm losing touch with what is happening in BugSquad and Bugzilla, I feel
+</I>&gt;<i> I can't be a good deputy any more if that isn't solved.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+But if no one else steps forth as deputy candidate, then I'm willing to
+be deputy again.
+
+I'll do a better job than *no* deputy :-/
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Remco Rijnders</B>
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">51312FF2.6080501 at hiebel.eu</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Like every years it's time for team elections, and as said in the
+</I>&gt;<i>council [1], this has to be done before the March 16th.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Team representatives are here, as its name indicates, to represent the
+</I>&gt;<i>team on the council, ie, say what is done, what will be done. So we can
+</I>&gt;<i>a global view of the project, and make decision if necessary.
+</I>&gt;<i>we will need a leader and a deputy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Is anyone interested in these positions ?
+</I>&gt;<i>We can wait until March 8th for candidates. Personally I renew my
+</I>&gt;<i>application.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Feel free to ask any questions (related or not to the subject) and
+</I>&gt;<i>thanks for any of your actions on one of the 9230 bugs !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>1.
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2013/mageia-meeting.2013-02-11-20.00.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2013/mageia-meeting.2013-02-11-20.00.html</A>
+</I>
+Hi Manuel,
+
+Great that you are putting yourself forward again to be the bugsquad
+leader! Seeing how no one else stepped forward, I herewith make myself
+available for the deputy position.
+
+I know the last months I've not been active much, but will try to do
+better in the future (no promises, but I'll put in the effort).
+
+Cheers,
+
+Remmy
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+<PRE>On 07/03/13 18:15, Remco Rijnders wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 11:47:14PM +0100, Manuel wrote in
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">51312FF2.6080501 at hiebel.eu</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Like every years it's time for team elections, and as said in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> council [1], this has to be done before the March 16th.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Team representatives are here, as its name indicates, to represent the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> team on the council, ie, say what is done, what will be done. So we can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a global view of the project, and make decision if necessary.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we will need a leader and a deputy.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is anyone interested in these positions ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We can wait until March 8th for candidates. Personally I renew my
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> application.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Feel free to ask any questions (related or not to the subject) and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thanks for any of your actions on one of the 9230 bugs !
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2013/mageia-meeting.2013-02-11-20.00.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2013/mageia-meeting.2013-02-11-20.00.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Manuel,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Great that you are putting yourself forward again to be the bugsquad
+</I>&gt;<i> leader! Seeing how no one else stepped forward, I herewith make myself
+</I>&gt;<i> available for the deputy position.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know the last months I've not been active much, but will try to do
+</I>&gt;<i> better in the future (no promises, but I'll put in the effort).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Remmy
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+\o/ \o/ \o/
+
+Thanks a lot, Remmy!!
+
+Of course I withdraw myself as deputy candidate :-D
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+<PRE>On 01/03/13 23:47, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like every years it's time for team elections, and as said in the
+</I>&gt;<i> council [1], this has to be done before the March 16th.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Team representatives are here, as its name indicates, to represent the
+</I>&gt;<i> team on the council, ie, say what is done, what will be done. So we can
+</I>&gt;<i> a global view of the project, and make decision if necessary.
+</I>&gt;<i> we will need a leader and a deputy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is anyone interested in these positions ?
+</I>&gt;<i> We can wait until March 8th for candidates. Personally I renew my
+</I>&gt;<i> application.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Can I already congratulate you and remmy, or do you want to do a voting?
+
+I think you're a great team leader and remmy will be a great deputy.
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+<PRE>Le 08/03/2013 19:33, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i> Can I already congratulate you and remmy, or do you want to do a voting?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think you're a great team leader and remmy will be a great deputy.
+</I>
+I'm fine with that, any other opinion ?
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+work. I have tried downloading mangler from their site and compiling it
+--with-asla. This will allow my sound and voice to be recognized however
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+when I transmit and receive nobody can hear me and the GUI does not
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+issue but can not resolve it. Any assistance would be good.
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+Thank you
+Steve
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+<PRE>Hello,
+ I am having getting mangler to work on my system. I have tried the
+version from the repo and it only has OSS support which I can not get to
+work. I have tried downloading mangler from their site and compiling it
+--with-asla. This will allow my sound and voice to be recognized however
+the GUI application will not allow me to change rooms or disconnect, and
+when I transmit and receive nobody can hear me and the GUI does not
+respond to further action. (I can not hear or see any action in the
+channel). I have read and tried many options i have found posted on this
+issue but can not resolve it. Any assistance would be good.
+
+Thank you
+Steve
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+<PRE>On 13/03/13 15:20, Steve wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> I am having getting mangler to work on my system. I have tried the
+</I>&gt;<i> version from the repo and it only has OSS support which I can not get to
+</I>&gt;<i> work. I have tried downloading mangler from their site and compiling it
+</I>&gt;<i> --with-asla. This will allow my sound and voice to be recognized however
+</I>&gt;<i> the GUI application will not allow me to change rooms or disconnect, and
+</I>&gt;<i> when I transmit and receive nobody can hear me and the GUI does not
+</I>&gt;<i> respond to further action. (I can not hear or see any action in the
+</I>&gt;<i> channel). I have read and tried many options i have found posted on this
+</I>&gt;<i> issue but can not resolve it. Any assistance would be good.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank you
+</I>&gt;<i> Steve
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi Steve
+
+Thanks for finding the bug. Could you please create a bug report on our
+bugzilla <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org">https://bugs.mageia.org</A>
+
+The bugsquad tend to the reported bugs, rather than accepting reports
+directly.
+
+Thanks
+Claire (MrsB)
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
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+<PRE>Le 08/03/2013 22:18, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I'm fine with that, any other opinion ?
+</I>No reaction from the orther:
+
+*50 Non-digested Members of Mageia-bugsquad@*
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+*13 Digested Members of Mageia-bugsquad@*
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+ <B>Claire Robinson</B>
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+<PRE>On 08/03/13 18:33, Marja van Waes wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 01/03/13 23:47, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Like every years it's time for team elections, and as said in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> council [1], this has to be done before the March 16th.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Team representatives are here, as its name indicates, to represent the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> team on the council, ie, say what is done, what will be done. So we can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a global view of the project, and make decision if necessary.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we will need a leader and a deputy.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is anyone interested in these positions ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We can wait until March 8th for candidates. Personally I renew my
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> application.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can I already congratulate you and remmy, or do you want to do a voting?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think you're a great team leader and remmy will be a great deputy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>
+Agree with Marja but don't think I do enough bugsquadding to get a vote
+really.
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
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+<PRE>Le 01/03/2013 23:47, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like every years it's time for team elections, and as said in the
+</I>&gt;<i> council [1], this has to be done before the March 16th.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Team representatives are here, as its name indicates, to represent the
+</I>&gt;<i> team on the council, ie, say what is done, what will be done. So we can
+</I>&gt;<i> a global view of the project, and make decision if necessary.
+</I>&gt;<i> we will need a leader and a deputy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is anyone interested in these positions ?
+</I>&gt;<i> We can wait until March 8th for candidates. Personally I renew my
+</I>&gt;<i> application.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Feel free to ask any questions (related or not to the subject) and
+</I>&gt;<i> thanks for any of your actions on one of the 9230 bugs !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2013/mageia-meeting.2013-02-11-20.00.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2013/mageia-meeting.2013-02-11-20.00.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">Mageia-bugsquad at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</A>
+</I>
+Ok, congrats Remco ! ;)
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+<LI><A HREF="000213.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
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+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000219.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000223.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+</A><A NAME="225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
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+<LI><A HREF="000216.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
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+<I>Claire Robinson
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+</A><A NAME="224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
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+<LI><A HREF="000214.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="000215.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Mar 1 23:47:14 CET 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Mar 14 18:57:29 CET 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 13<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000213.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000214.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000215.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000216.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000217.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000218.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000219.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000220.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mangler 1.2.5 and Mageia 3 Beta 3
+</A><A NAME="220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Steve
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000221.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia 3 Beta 3 and Mangler 1.2.5
+</A><A NAME="221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Steve
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000222.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mangler 1.2.5 and Mageia 3 Beta 3
+</A><A NAME="222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000223.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000224.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000225.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Mar 1 23:47:14 CET 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Mar 14 18:57:29 CET 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 13<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000213.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000214.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000215.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000216.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000217.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000218.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000219.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000223.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000224.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000225.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000221.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia 3 Beta 3 and Mangler 1.2.5
+</A><A NAME="221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Steve
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000220.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mangler 1.2.5 and Mageia 3 Beta 3
+</A><A NAME="220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Steve
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000222.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mangler 1.2.5 and Mageia 3 Beta 3
+</A><A NAME="222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Mar 1 23:47:14 CET 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Mar 14 18:57:29 CET 2013</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 13<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01362178034- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000213.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01362178034-01362219964- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000214.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01362178034-01362219964-01362674518- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000215.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01362178034-01362676547- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000216.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01362178034-01362676547-01362679463- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000217.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01362178034-01362767611- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000218.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01362178034-01362767611-01362777526- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000219.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01362178034-01362767611-01362777526-01363208749- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000223.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01362178034-01362767611-01363214000- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000224.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01362178034-01363283849- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000225.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team elections
+</A><A NAME="225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01363188039- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000220.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mangler 1.2.5 and Mageia 3 Beta 3
+</A><A NAME="220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Steve
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01363188039-01363189880- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000222.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mangler 1.2.5 and Mageia 3 Beta 3
+</A><A NAME="222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01363188228- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000221.html">[Mageia-bugsquad] Mageia 3 Beta 3 and Mangler 1.2.5
+</A><A NAME="221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Steve
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
+ Hi everyone,<br>
+ <br>
+ My name is Marja van Waes (marja), I joined the Bug Squad recently
+ and am currently helping with the migration of our old documents to
+ the new wiki.<br>
+ <br>
+ One of those documents is the list of registered Bug Squad Members.<br>
+ <br>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage#list_of_registered_people">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage#list_of_registered_people</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Are you a member of the team but not on that list? (I'd love to see
+ you name on it)<br>
+ Do you know of someone else who should be on the list? <br>
+ Are you on the list but temporarily unavailable? (no, we won't kick
+ you out, but it is good to know) <br>
+ Did you volunteer for our team but somehow never manage to start
+ triaging? (no, I am not going to strike through your name, I'd only
+ like to know so we can think about how to get you started <span
+ class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-)  </span></span>)<br>
+ <br>
+ Yes, and even if you're still on the list, but left the team because
+ of other priorities, please tell us. We'll skip your name
+ reluctantly.<br>
+ <br>
+ Another question, if there are certain types of bugs that you prefer
+ (e.g. if you know a lot about gaming, you might take a special
+ interest in related bugs), could you please tell. If everyone agrees
+ I would like to replace the old comments by those preferences.<br>
+ <br>
+ For your convenience, the list as it was when I last looked at it
+ (this morning) is printed below.<br>
+ <br>
+ Regards,<br>
+ Marja<br>
+ <br>
+ <h3><a name="list_of_registered_people"
+ id="list_of_registered_people"></a></h3>
+ <div class="level3">
+ <ol>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Aarón Mendo Andrade (Drakon) - aaron_mendo AT
+ yahoo DOT com - triaging bug reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Adjamilton Júnior (rox) - ajunior AT
+ brasifort DOT com DOT br - triaging bug reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> André Blais (andre999) - andr55 ad laposte
+ dot net - triage bug reports; never done but have followed
+ Mandriva bugteam list, and have reported bugs</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Arania Jain (Arania) - arania [at] brainabove
+ [dot] com - Bug Triage, Monitoring and Maintenance. Never
+ done an open source project but have done bug management for
+ products in a commercial company.</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Ashiqur Rahman Angel (Angel) - angel [at]
+ linux [dot] org [dot] bd - Bug Triage</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Dan-Marian Joita (dan) - djmarian4u AT yahoo
+ DOT com - triage or any other kind of help i can provide
+ (never tried this <acronym title="By the way">BTW</acronym>)</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Derek Jennings (djenning) - derekjenn AT
+ gmail DOT com - bug triage</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Duane Phinney (genomega) - genomega [at]
+ earthlink [dot] net - triaging bug reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Florian Hubold (doktor5000) - doktor5000 AT
+ arcor DOT de - help ahmad and stéphane (need a bit training
+ first)</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Hoyt Duff (wambu) hoytduff AT gmail DOT com -
+ bug triage (contributor to LinuxFormat, Fedora Unleashed)</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Ireneusz Gierlach (Iro) - irek [dot] gierlach
+ [at] gmail [dot] com - Triaging bug reports.</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Jean-Claude Stiegler (JC_Stiegler) -
+ jcstiegler [at] free [dot] fr - triaging bug reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> John Schneiderman (jadziamd) - johnms [at]
+ member [dot] fsf [dot] org - triaging bug reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Lon Lentz (cthobs) - lon [dot] lentz [at]
+ gmail [dot] com - anything the bug team needs doing</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Manuel Hiebel (leuhmanu) - manuel [at] hiebel
+ [dot] eu - triaging bu reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Marja van Waes (marja) - marja11 [at] xs4all
+ [dot] nl - learning to triage </div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Olivier Faurax (ofaurax) - olivier ät faurax
+ dôt fr - triagin bugs, never done this before (even if I
+ reported)</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Remco Rijnders (remmy) -
+ remco@webconquest.com - <br>
+ </div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li">Rémy CLOUARD (shikamaru) - shikamaru AT
+ shikamaru DOT fr - hopefully help ahmad and stéphane (need
+ training first)</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Roberto Uris Guerra (uris77) - uris77 at
+ gmail dot com - No experience developing distros. Have been
+ using Linux since late 2000. Mandriva is currently my
+ workstation. At work we have Mandriva running on over 30
+ servers. Experience in Java,Groovy,Grails,<acronym
+ title="Practical Extraction and Report Language">Perl</acronym>,Ruby.
+
+
+
+
+
+ Would like to very much to make myself useful since Mandriva
+ is a big part at where I work. Never done this before but
+ I'm willing to help. Bugs are not so nice :D</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Sandro Cazzaniga - cazzaniga DOT sandro AT
+ gmail DOT com - helping in bug report and want to be useful
+ for mageia so being in bugsquad team !:)</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Slavcho Andov (IceMan)-
+ ice-man-90@hotmail.com - helping with the bug reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Stefano Negro (stblack) - stblack at gmail
+ DoT com - never done triaging before, but I want to learn
+ and help the team ;)</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Stéphane Flavigny (STEF74)- megastorage AT
+ hotmail DOT fr - triaging bug reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Thierry Vignaud (tv) - thierry.vignaud At
+ gmail DoT com - triaging bug reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Zé (zemo) | ze AT mageia DOT org | bug triage</div>
+ </li>
+ </ol>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
+ Hi everyone,<br>
+ <br>
+ My name is Marja van Waes (marja), I joined the Bug Squad recently
+ and am currently helping with the migration of our old documents to
+ the new wiki.<br>
+ <br>
+ One of those documents is the list of registered Bug Squad Members.<br>
+ <br>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage#list_of_registered_people">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage#list_of_registered_people</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Are you a member of the team but not on that list? (I'd love to see
+ you name on it)<br>
+ Do you know of someone else who should be on the list? <br>
+ Are you on the list but temporarily unavailable? (no, we won't kick
+ you out, but it is good to know) <br>
+ Did you volunteer for our team but somehow never manage to start
+ triaging? (no, I am not going to strike through your name, I'd only
+ like to know so we can think about how to get you started <span
+ class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-)  </span></span>)<br>
+ <br>
+ Yes, and even if you're still on the list, but left the team because
+ of other priorities, please tell us. We'll skip your name
+ reluctantly.<br>
+ <br>
+ Another question, if there are certain types of bugs that you prefer
+ (e.g. if you know a lot about gaming, you might take a special
+ interest in related bugs), could you please tell. If everyone agrees
+ I would like to replace the old comments by those preferences.<br>
+ <br>
+ For your convenience, the list as it was when I last looked at it
+ (this morning) is printed below.<br>
+ <br>
+ Regards,<br>
+ Marja<br>
+ <br>
+ <h3><a name="list_of_registered_people"
+ id="list_of_registered_people"></a></h3>
+ <div class="level3">
+ <ol>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Aarón Mendo Andrade (Drakon) - aaron_mendo AT
+ yahoo DOT com - triaging bug reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Adjamilton Júnior (rox) - ajunior AT
+ brasifort DOT com DOT br - triaging bug reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> André Blais (andre999) - andr55 ad laposte
+ dot net - triage bug reports; never done but have followed
+ Mandriva bugteam list, and have reported bugs</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Arania Jain (Arania) - arania [at] brainabove
+ [dot] com - Bug Triage, Monitoring and Maintenance. Never
+ done an open source project but have done bug management for
+ products in a commercial company.</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Ashiqur Rahman Angel (Angel) - angel [at]
+ linux [dot] org [dot] bd - Bug Triage</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Dan-Marian Joita (dan) - djmarian4u AT yahoo
+ DOT com - triage or any other kind of help i can provide
+ (never tried this <acronym title="By the way">BTW</acronym>)</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Derek Jennings (djenning) - derekjenn AT
+ gmail DOT com - bug triage</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Duane Phinney (genomega) - genomega [at]
+ earthlink [dot] net - triaging bug reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Florian Hubold (doktor5000) - doktor5000 AT
+ arcor DOT de - help ahmad and stéphane (need a bit training
+ first)</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Hoyt Duff (wambu) hoytduff AT gmail DOT com -
+ bug triage (contributor to LinuxFormat, Fedora Unleashed)</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Ireneusz Gierlach (Iro) - irek [dot] gierlach
+ [at] gmail [dot] com - Triaging bug reports.</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Jean-Claude Stiegler (JC_Stiegler) -
+ jcstiegler [at] free [dot] fr - triaging bug reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> John Schneiderman (jadziamd) - johnms [at]
+ member [dot] fsf [dot] org - triaging bug reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Lon Lentz (cthobs) - lon [dot] lentz [at]
+ gmail [dot] com - anything the bug team needs doing</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Manuel Hiebel (leuhmanu) - manuel [at] hiebel
+ [dot] eu - triaging bu reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Marja van Waes (marja) - marja11 [at] xs4all
+ [dot] nl - learning to triage </div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Olivier Faurax (ofaurax) - olivier ät faurax
+ dôt fr - triagin bugs, never done this before (even if I
+ reported)</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Remco Rijnders (remmy) -
+ remco@webconquest.com - <br>
+ </div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li">Rémy CLOUARD (shikamaru) - shikamaru AT
+ shikamaru DOT fr - hopefully help ahmad and stéphane (need
+ training first)</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Roberto Uris Guerra (uris77) - uris77 at
+ gmail dot com - No experience developing distros. Have been
+ using Linux since late 2000. Mandriva is currently my
+ workstation. At work we have Mandriva running on over 30
+ servers. Experience in Java,Groovy,Grails,<acronym
+ title="Practical Extraction and Report Language">Perl</acronym>,Ruby.
+
+
+
+
+
+ Would like to very much to make myself useful since Mandriva
+ is a big part at where I work. Never done this before but
+ I'm willing to help. Bugs are not so nice :D</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Sandro Cazzaniga - cazzaniga DOT sandro AT
+ gmail DOT com - helping in bug report and want to be useful
+ for mageia so being in bugsquad team !:)</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Slavcho Andov (IceMan)-
+ ice-man-90@hotmail.com - helping with the bug reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Stefano Negro (stblack) - stblack at gmail
+ DoT com - never done triaging before, but I want to learn
+ and help the team ;)</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Stéphane Flavigny (STEF74)- megastorage AT
+ hotmail DOT fr - triaging bug reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Thierry Vignaud (tv) - thierry.vignaud At
+ gmail DoT com - triaging bug reports</div>
+ </li>
+ <li class="level1">
+ <div class="li"> Zé (zemo) | ze AT mageia DOT org | bug triage</div>
+ </li>
+ </ol>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <pre>(Thanks Manuel, for improving what I wrote and thanks Dan for asking for examples.</pre>
+ <pre>I'll try to expand and improve this document - maybe even with screenshots - for use in the new wiki.)</pre>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ <pre>Any suggestions (from anybody!) are welcome.</pre>
+ <pre>
+But please don't look at the current triage guide now.
+I don't want you to concentrate on that guide, but I would like you to concentrate on what you know or learned by experience.
+Later on the triage guide can be compared with this document and they can be fused into a guide that contains the best of both <span class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-)   </span></span></pre>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ <pre>Op 28-09-11 00:33, Manuel Hiebel schreef:</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Le mardi 27 septembre 2011 à 23:08 +0200, Marja van Waes a écrit :
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ <pre><b>EASY THINGS TO BEGIN WITH:
+
+</b>PACKAGE REQUESTS:
+</pre>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Search bugzilla for package requests that haven't been assigned yet
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;component=New%20RPM%20package%20request">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;component=New%20RPM%20package%20request</a>
+
+Some requesters forget to give a link to where the software can be
+found. </pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <pre>
+ </pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">If they haven't given a link at all, you can ask them to give the
+upstream link to the package. If they say: it is a Mandriva package,
+you can say: not all our packagers are familiar with Mandriva, so
+please give an upstream link.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Or they put the link in the description field, which is good,
+but the <u>link should also go in the URL field</u>. Like
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1067">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1067</a> You can copy the link to
+the url field, if you want to
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+You can also <u>complete the field RPM package</u>, and make an precise summary
+if that is not enough (like removing: "I'd like to see this package in
+mageia" </pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>and replace it</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap=""><u>with "$name-of-the-package, $a very short description"</u></pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ <pre>BUGS:
+
+Not all steps ar easy, you can start doing what is easy for you and leave the rest to others.
+No bugs should be assigned to a maintainer before all necessary steps are taken (unless, of course, the maintainer chooses to grab the bug)
+
+
+Step 1
+
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">
+Look at the
+new bugs that are reported and use bugzilla to find out whether one is
+a <u>duplicate</u> of an existing bug. If you are not used to searching
+bugzilla: play around with it first. And don't forget to try the
+advanced options <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.mageia.org/query.cgi">https://bugs.mageia.org/query.cgi</a> (choose right tab:
+advanced search)
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>Step 2a
+
+Dit the reporter give the needed basic information about the Mageia release he uses and what steps to take to reproduce the bug?
+
+ADD:(examples of reports with and without needed info)
+
+
+step 2b (often not so easy, if you don't know how to do it: leave it to others and watch what they do)
+
+Check wether the reporter gave needed backtraces, if he didn't: ask for them and tell him how to get them if he doesn't know
+
+ADD: (examples)
+
+
+Step 3
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">
+If someone has the same version of Mandriva as you and reports a bug
+in a program you are familiar with, you can try to <u>reproduce</u> the bug.
+
+
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>But often other Mageia users report that they have the same bug, so then they reproduced it.</pre>
+ <pre>If it can't be reproduced, than it isn't a bug and the bug should be closed
+(but please tell the user he can find help for his problem on <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/">https://forums.mageia.org/en/</a>)</pre>
+ <pre>
+Step 4
+
+</pre>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">
+You can also <u>add a maintainer</u> like what I do here:
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2856">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2856</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_activity.cgi?id=2856">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_activity.cgi?id=2856</a>
+
+check the src.rpm:
+ :src claws-mail with sophie (on irc or sophie.zarb.org)
+or urpmq --sourcerpm claws-mail
+
+then search the maintainer:
+ :maint claws-mail
+or search on the txt list: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt</a>
+
+then search the email of the maintainer: julien on the page
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging#list_of_registered_people">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging#list_of_registered_people</a>
+
+or just type the id, sometime it's work (like for misc, tmb,...),
+sometimes not (like here, there is two id) :)
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>OLD BUGS:
+</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">
+We must check that for all 'old' bug.
+Here is a saved-search for all bug assigned to bugsquad:
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=Bugs%20not%20triaged%20%28excl%20new%20RPM%20requests%29&amp;sharer_id=35">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=Bugs%20not%20triaged%20%28excl%20new%20RPM%20requests%29&amp;sharer_id=35</a>
+
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
+ <pre>(Thanks Manuel, for improving what I wrote and thanks Dan for asking for examples.</pre>
+ <pre>I'll try to expand and improve this document - maybe even with screenshots - for use in the new wiki.)</pre>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ <pre>Any suggestions (from anybody!) are welcome.</pre>
+ <pre>
+But please don't look at the current triage guide now.
+I don't want you to concentrate on that guide, but I would like you to concentrate on what you know or learned by experience.
+Later on the triage guide can be compared with this document and they can be fused into a guide that contains the best of both <span class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-)   </span></span></pre>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ <pre>Op 28-09-11 00:33, Manuel Hiebel schreef:</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Le mardi 27 septembre 2011 à 23:08 +0200, Marja van Waes a écrit :
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ <pre><b>EASY THINGS TO BEGIN WITH:
+
+</b>PACKAGE REQUESTS:
+</pre>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Search bugzilla for package requests that haven't been assigned yet
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;component=New%20RPM%20package%20request">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;component=New%20RPM%20package%20request</a>
+
+Some requesters forget to give a link to where the software can be
+found. </pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <pre>
+ </pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">If they haven't given a link at all, you can ask them to give the
+upstream link to the package. If they say: it is a Mandriva package,
+you can say: not all our packagers are familiar with Mandriva, so
+please give an upstream link.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Or they put the link in the description field, which is good,
+but the <u>link should also go in the URL field</u>. Like
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1067">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1067</a> You can copy the link to
+the url field, if you want to
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+You can also <u>complete the field RPM package</u>, and make an precise summary
+if that is not enough (like removing: "I'd like to see this package in
+mageia" </pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>and replace it</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap=""><u>with "$name-of-the-package, $a very short description"</u></pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ <pre>BUGS:
+
+Not all steps ar easy, you can start doing what is easy for you and leave the rest to others.
+No bugs should be assigned to a maintainer before all necessary steps are taken (unless, of course, the maintainer chooses to grab the bug)
+
+
+Step 1
+
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">
+Look at the
+new bugs that are reported and use bugzilla to find out whether one is
+a <u>duplicate</u> of an existing bug. If you are not used to searching
+bugzilla: play around with it first. And don't forget to try the
+advanced options <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.mageia.org/query.cgi">https://bugs.mageia.org/query.cgi</a> (choose right tab:
+advanced search)
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>Step 2a
+
+Dit the reporter give the needed basic information about the Mageia release he uses and what steps to take to reproduce the bug?
+
+ADD:(examples of reports with and without needed info)
+
+
+step 2b (often not so easy, if you don't know how to do it: leave it to others and watch what they do)
+
+Check wether the reporter gave needed backtraces, if he didn't: ask for them and tell him how to get them if he doesn't know
+
+ADD: (examples)
+
+
+Step 3
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">
+If someone has the same version of Mandriva as you and reports a bug
+in a program you are familiar with, you can try to <u>reproduce</u> the bug.
+
+
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>But often other Mageia users report that they have the same bug, so then they reproduced it.</pre>
+ <pre>If it can't be reproduced, than it isn't a bug and the bug should be closed
+(but please tell the user he can find help for his problem on <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/">https://forums.mageia.org/en/</a>)</pre>
+ <pre>
+Step 4
+
+</pre>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">
+You can also <u>add a maintainer</u> like what I do here:
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2856">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2856</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_activity.cgi?id=2856">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_activity.cgi?id=2856</a>
+
+check the src.rpm:
+ :src claws-mail with sophie (on irc or sophie.zarb.org)
+or urpmq --sourcerpm claws-mail
+
+then search the maintainer:
+ :maint claws-mail
+or search on the txt list: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt</a>
+
+then search the email of the maintainer: julien on the page
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging#list_of_registered_people">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging#list_of_registered_people</a>
+
+or just type the id, sometime it's work (like for misc, tmb,...),
+sometimes not (like here, there is two id) :)
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>OLD BUGS:
+</pre>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">
+We must check that for all 'old' bug.
+Here is a saved-search for all bug assigned to bugsquad:
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=Bugs%20not%20triaged%20%28excl%20new%20RPM%20requests%29&amp;sharer_id=35">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=Bugs%20not%20triaged%20%28excl%20new%20RPM%20requests%29&amp;sharer_id=35</a>
+
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:1317162819.27225.17.camel@vosdook" type="cite">
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre>
+</pre>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd">
+<html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><style type="text/css">
+p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
+</style></head><body style=" font-family:'Sans'; font-size:10pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 22:38:45, vous avez écrit :</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Op 02-10-11 22:28, Samuel Verschelde schreef:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 22:24:10, Marja van Waes a écrit :</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; Op 02-10-11 21:29, Samuel Verschelde schreef:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 21:25:08, Manuel Hiebel a écrit :</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Le dimanche 02 octobre 2011 à 17:35 +0200, Marja van Waes a écrit :</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; happens to bugs once they have been triaged?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; assigned to a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; work (try to contact the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; information again when the report hasn't answered yet, produce</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; reports to monitor open bugs, then send feedback to the developers</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; mailing list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where this</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; fits in the proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; management goes farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Well, we must keep the bugzilla working. For example, after an update</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in mageia 1, sometimes the maintainer forget to reassign the bug to</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; QA.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I was planned to send weekly bug news, but I must better organise my</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; free time. :)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (And now, as we have maintenairs, this is less important. I think)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; For the other part I don't know.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (I'am also a new bug man)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Also, to be written somewhere, was never done in Mandriva but in my</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; opinion *must* be done in Mageia, is set the &quot;cauldron&quot; version to</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Mageia 2&quot; the day it is released.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; Do you mind explaining? I see various interpretations of this sentence.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; A bug reported against cauldron and still valid becomes a bug reported</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; against Mageia 2. If we don't change the Version field from cauldron to</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia 2, we risk having some bugs fixed only in cauldron without an</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; update being issued in Mageia 2.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; And copying it, so that there is the same report against cauldron as</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; against Mageia 2? </p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Maybe. It could be a lot of work to maintain 2 versions of the same bug report. </p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Bugs on different releases should go into seperate Bug</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; reports, according to our manual. The Mageia 2 one is then set to depend</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; on the cauldron one, and the cauldron one is set to block the mageia 2</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; one (because a patch is, of course, going to be tested in Cauldron first)</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I'm not sure. A bug could have been fixed in cauldron by updating to a newer version (independently of the bug report), but still remain in Mageia 2. And I've seen many bugs fixed in Mageia 1 before or at the same time as in cauldron. </p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">It's not an easy subject, the solution must be thinked of, taking every case into account.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br />Samuel</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 22:38:45, vous avez écrit :</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Op 02-10-11 22:28, Samuel Verschelde schreef:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 22:24:10, Marja van Waes a écrit :</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; Op 02-10-11 21:29, Samuel Verschelde schreef:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Le dimanche 2 octobre 2011 21:25:08, Manuel Hiebel a écrit :</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Le dimanche 02 octobre 2011 à 17:35 +0200, Marja van Waes a écrit :</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Op 02-10-11 15:56, Samuel Verschelde schreef:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; There is something I don't know, concerning the bug team: what</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; happens to bugs once they have been triaged?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Said differently, does the bugteam work stop once the bug has been</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; assigned to a maintainer, or does bug monitoring enter this team's</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; work (try to contact the maintainers for stale bug reports, ask</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; information again when the report hasn't answered yet, produce</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; reports to monitor open bugs, then send feedback to the developers</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; mailing list...)? If it's the latter, I don't see yet where this</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; fits in the proposed structure, as in my opinion bug reports</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; management goes farther than just &quot;triage&quot;.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Well, we must keep the bugzilla working. For example, after an update</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in mageia 1, sometimes the maintainer forget to reassign the bug to</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; QA.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I was planned to send weekly bug news, but I must better organise my</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; free time. :)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (And now, as we have maintenairs, this is less important. I think)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; For the other part I don't know.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (I'am also a new bug man)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Also, to be written somewhere, was never done in Mandriva but in my</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; opinion *must* be done in Mageia, is set the &quot;cauldron&quot; version to</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Mageia 2&quot; the day it is released.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; Do you mind explaining? I see various interpretations of this sentence.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; A bug reported against cauldron and still valid becomes a bug reported</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; against Mageia 2. If we don't change the Version field from cauldron to</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia 2, we risk having some bugs fixed only in cauldron without an</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; update being issued in Mageia 2.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; And copying it, so that there is the same report against cauldron as</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; against Mageia 2? </p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Maybe. It could be a lot of work to maintain 2 versions of the same bug report. </p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Bugs on different releases should go into seperate Bug</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; reports, according to our manual. The Mageia 2 one is then set to depend</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; on the cauldron one, and the cauldron one is set to block the mageia 2</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; one (because a patch is, of course, going to be tested in Cauldron first)</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I'm not sure. A bug could have been fixed in cauldron by updating to a newer version (independently of the bug report), but still remain in Mageia 2. And I've seen many bugs fixed in Mageia 1 before or at the same time as in cauldron. </p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">It's not an easy subject, the solution must be thinked of, taking every case into account.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br />Samuel</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Le mardi 4 octobre 2011 07:14:50, Marja van Waes a écrit :</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Op 04-10-11 07:05, D.Morgan schreef:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Remco Rijnders&lt;remco@webconquest.com&gt; wrote:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; Op Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 06:34:15AM +0200 schreef Marja in</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;4E8A8CC7.1010602@xs4all.nl&gt;:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi everyone,</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; I started to give bugs that were assigned&gt;= (or is it =&gt;)? two months</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; ago, but weren't accepted by the assignee, the assigned status.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Anyone disapprove?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; Sounds good to me. If they don't want it, they can assign it back. I</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; think we do have to follow progress on assigned bugs, but that probably</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; comes after first triaging all open reports.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; I am not agree, assigned should use by the developper/pacakger when</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; (s)he actually works on a bugreport. For me you will just break my</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; work flow.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia-bugsquad mailing list</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Both thanks for the feedback. I don't want to break anyones workflow, so</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; I won't continue.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Maybe it is a better idea, next time I run into this, to ping the</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; assignee and remind him the bug was assigned to him/her &gt;= two months ago</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Yes, I think so.</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Le mardi 4 octobre 2011 07:14:50, Marja van Waes a écrit :</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Op 04-10-11 07:05, D.Morgan schreef:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Remco Rijnders&lt;remco@webconquest.com&gt; wrote:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; Op Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 06:34:15AM +0200 schreef Marja in</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;4E8A8CC7.1010602@xs4all.nl&gt;:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi everyone,</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; I started to give bugs that were assigned&gt;= (or is it =&gt;)? two months</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; ago, but weren't accepted by the assignee, the assigned status.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Anyone disapprove?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; Sounds good to me. If they don't want it, they can assign it back. I</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; think we do have to follow progress on assigned bugs, but that probably</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; comes after first triaging all open reports.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; I am not agree, assigned should use by the developper/pacakger when</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; (s)he actually works on a bugreport. For me you will just break my</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; work flow.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia-bugsquad mailing list</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Both thanks for the feedback. I don't want to break anyones workflow, so</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; I won't continue.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Maybe it is a better idea, next time I run into this, to ping the</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; assignee and remind him the bug was assigned to him/her &gt;= two months ago</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Yes, I think so.</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Samuel</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+Bug Squad meeting, 2011-10-22 18.00h UTC
+
+Meeting items:
+1 backport request (witch component, rpm package, new rpm package request ?)
+2 package request (maybe we can add a template for the new one so we can the list beautiful and readable
+3 Groups permission, add status ?
+4 what to do for unconfirmed bug. (like bug 2081)
+5 May we use NEEDINFO keyword for an old triaged bug that isn't assigned to a maintainer, when we need to ask whether the bug still exists in current release(like 350)
+6 The ASSIGNED status doesn't mean assigned, it means that the maintainer started to work on the bug. That is very confusing and not according to Bugzilla https://bugs.mageia.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status
+7 According to the triage guide, we must sometimes set a bug to the RESOLVED - REPORTEDUPSTREAM resolution, however, our Bugzilla doesn't have the REPORTEDUPSTREAM resolution
+8 https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364 Does it irritate most of us, to have to fill out a comment field when closing a bug as duplicate?
+
+# 1 backport request (witch component, rpm package, new rpm package request ?)
+
+#AGREED: Backport requests should get the component "RPM Packages" and the keyword "Backport"
+
+#2 package request (maybe we can add a template for the new one so we can the list beautiful and readable
+
+#AGREED leuhmanu will make a template for new package requests and enable us to try it out on his test Bugzilla
+
+#3 Groups permission, add status ?
+
+#AGREED postpone
+#POSTPONE
+
+#4 what to do for unconfirmed bug. (like bug 2081)
+Marja overlooked this item, and no one noticed
+#NEXTMEETING what to do for unconfirmed bug. (like bug 2081)
+
+#5 May we use NEEDINFO keyword for an old triaged bug that isn't assigned to a maintainer, when we need to ask whether the bug still exists in current release(like 350)
+
+#AGREED When more information is needed from the reporter:
+1. As a try-out do the following without putting anything extra on the whiteboard, to see if it works:
+2. set NEEDINFO keyword when asking for needed information in a comment
+3. use a saved search for NEEDINFO untriaged bugs untouched for more than 2 weeks to ping the reporter if this wasn't done, yet
+4. and close the bug when the reporter has already been pinged.(= more than 4 weeks after asking for needed info)
+
+#AGREED When the needed info is needed for proper triage, to remove old "Triaged" keyword when setting the NEEDINFO one, but else to have both keywords.
+
+#6 The ASSIGNED status doesn't mean assigned, it means that the maintainer started to work on the bug. That is very confusing and not according to Bugzilla https://bugs.mageia.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status
+
+# SKIPPED this item because it is already being addressed sufficiently in stormi's proposal for bugstatuses and workflow
+
+#7 According to the triage guide, we must sometimes set a bug to the RESOLVED - REPORTEDUPSTREAM resolution, however, our Bugzilla doesn't have the REPORTEDUPSTREAM resolution
+
+#AGREED add the CLOSED/UPSTREAM status for bug reports about upstream issues we decide to close, but not add the (WAITING_FOR_UPSTREAM) status for the ones we keep open, yet.
+
+
+The meeting was closed at 20:13h UTC \ No newline at end of file
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+Bug Squad meeting, 2011-10-22 18.00h UTC
+
+Meeting items:
+1 backport request (witch component, rpm package, new rpm package request ?)
+2 package request (maybe we can add a template for the new one so we can the list beautiful and readable
+3 Groups permission, add status ?
+4 what to do for unconfirmed bug. (like bug 2081)
+5 May we use NEEDINFO keyword for an old triaged bug that isn't assigned to a maintainer, when we need to ask whether the bug still exists in current release(like 350)
+6 The ASSIGNED status doesn't mean assigned, it means that the maintainer started to work on the bug. That is very confusing and not according to Bugzilla https://bugs.mageia.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status
+7 According to the triage guide, we must sometimes set a bug to the RESOLVED - REPORTEDUPSTREAM resolution, however, our Bugzilla doesn't have the REPORTEDUPSTREAM resolution
+8 https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364 Does it irritate most of us, to have to fill out a comment field when closing a bug as duplicate?
+
+# 1 backport request (witch component, rpm package, new rpm package request ?)
+
+#AGREED: Backport requests should get the component "RPM Packages" and the keyword "Backport"
+
+#2 package request (maybe we can add a template for the new one so we can the list beautiful and readable
+
+#AGREED leuhmanu will make a template for new package requests and enable us to try it out on his test Bugzilla
+
+#3 Groups permission, add status ?
+
+#AGREED postpone
+#POSTPONE
+
+#4 what to do for unconfirmed bug. (like bug 2081)
+Marja overlooked this item, and no one noticed
+#NEXTMEETING what to do for unconfirmed bug. (like bug 2081)
+
+#5 May we use NEEDINFO keyword for an old triaged bug that isn't assigned to a maintainer, when we need to ask whether the bug still exists in current release(like 350)
+
+#AGREED When more information is needed from the reporter:
+1. As a try-out do the following without putting anything extra on the whiteboard, to see if it works:
+2. set NEEDINFO keyword when asking for needed information in a comment
+3. use a saved search for NEEDINFO untriaged bugs untouched for more than 2 weeks to ping the reporter if this wasn't done, yet
+4. and close the bug when the reporter has already been pinged.(= more than 4 weeks after asking for needed info)
+
+#AGREED When the needed info is needed for proper triage, to remove old "Triaged" keyword when setting the NEEDINFO one, but else to have both keywords.
+
+#6 The ASSIGNED status doesn't mean assigned, it means that the maintainer started to work on the bug. That is very confusing and not according to Bugzilla https://bugs.mageia.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status
+
+# SKIPPED this item because it is already being addressed sufficiently in stormi's proposal for bugstatuses and workflow
+
+#7 According to the triage guide, we must sometimes set a bug to the RESOLVED - REPORTEDUPSTREAM resolution, however, our Bugzilla doesn't have the REPORTEDUPSTREAM resolution
+
+#AGREED add the CLOSED/UPSTREAM status for bug reports about upstream issues we decide to close, but not add the (WAITING_FOR_UPSTREAM) status for the ones we keep open, yet.
+
+
+The meeting was closed at 20:13h UTC \ No newline at end of file
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <b>If you received a mail about signing up for the Bug Squad mailing
+ list this morning, I bcc you now.</b><br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ Hi everyone,<br>
+ <br>
+ Some time ago on this ml,  I tried to find someone who was willing
+ to look at bugs together with an inexperienced Bug Squad member.<br>
+ <br>
+ If, at that time, I would have known that the few members we have,
+ are extremely busy (e.g. in other teams) or inexperienced
+ themselves, I would never have asked this.<br>
+ <br>
+ In the meeting yesterday, it was acknowledged that we can't teach
+ new Bug Squad members, all we can do is encourage them to do what we
+ did ourselves and what helped us to start triaging, like the things
+ on the list below. This list will go into a  "How to start triaging"
+ in our new wiki, anyone who wants to improve it is welcome to do so:<br>
+ <br>
+ * read bug reports, see how they were handled<br>
+ * study the triage guide
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage_guide">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage_guide</a><br>
+ * study the bug policy
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy</a><br>
+ * ask on irc (# mageia-bugsquad, #mageia or #mageia-dev channel) if
+ you need to know something
+ and don't get frightened if no one replies: in that case, everybody
+ is too busy or away and someone will reply later
+ (for you to see the reply, it helps when you stay logged in ;) )<br>
+ * start trying code etc. from the triage guide for yourself (when
+ and where appropriate), to see what happens
+ <br>
+ * learn how to use Sophie
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=irc#sophie">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=irc#sophie</a><br>
+ * look around in upstream Bugzilla's and forums
+ <br>
+ * feel free to ask questions in this (the mageia-bugsquad) mailing
+ list<br>
+ * just start triaging and learn from your mistakes<br>
+ <br>
+ So: inexperienced Bug Squad members: please give it a go<br>
+ And: experienced Bug Squad members: please continue to give a little
+ guidance (like giving feedback when a mistake was made) in the
+ moments you find time to do so<br>
+ <br>
+ Regards,<br>
+ Marja<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <b>If you received a mail about signing up for the Bug Squad mailing
+ list this morning, I bcc you now.</b><br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ Hi everyone,<br>
+ <br>
+ Some time ago on this ml,  I tried to find someone who was willing
+ to look at bugs together with an inexperienced Bug Squad member.<br>
+ <br>
+ If, at that time, I would have known that the few members we have,
+ are extremely busy (e.g. in other teams) or inexperienced
+ themselves, I would never have asked this.<br>
+ <br>
+ In the meeting yesterday, it was acknowledged that we can't teach
+ new Bug Squad members, all we can do is encourage them to do what we
+ did ourselves and what helped us to start triaging, like the things
+ on the list below. This list will go into a  "How to start triaging"
+ in our new wiki, anyone who wants to improve it is welcome to do so:<br>
+ <br>
+ * read bug reports, see how they were handled<br>
+ * study the triage guide
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage_guide">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage_guide</a><br>
+ * study the bug policy
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bug_policy</a><br>
+ * ask on irc (# mageia-bugsquad, #mageia or #mageia-dev channel) if
+ you need to know something
+ and don't get frightened if no one replies: in that case, everybody
+ is too busy or away and someone will reply later
+ (for you to see the reply, it helps when you stay logged in ;) )<br>
+ * start trying code etc. from the triage guide for yourself (when
+ and where appropriate), to see what happens
+ <br>
+ * learn how to use Sophie
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=irc#sophie">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=irc#sophie</a><br>
+ * look around in upstream Bugzilla's and forums
+ <br>
+ * feel free to ask questions in this (the mageia-bugsquad) mailing
+ list<br>
+ * just start triaging and learn from your mistakes<br>
+ <br>
+ So: inexperienced Bug Squad members: please give it a go<br>
+ And: experienced Bug Squad members: please continue to give a little
+ guidance (like giving feedback when a mistake was made) in the
+ moments you find time to do so<br>
+ <br>
+ Regards,<br>
+ Marja<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/11/6 Marja van Waes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:marja11@xs4all.nl">marja11@xs4all.nl</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+Hi everyone,<br>
+<br>
+Since yesterday&#39;s meeting, Manuel is not only our Team council representative (that suggested his leadership), but formally our leader as well :-D<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-bugsquad/2011/mageia-bugsquad.2011-11-05-19.08.html" target="_blank">http://meetbot.mageia.org/<u></u>mageia-bugsquad/2011/mageia-<u></u>bugsquad.2011-11-05-19.08.html</a><br>
+<br>
+Regards,<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+Marja<br>
+<br>
+<br></font></span></blockquote><div><br>Congratulations :D <br></div></div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/11/6 Marja van Waes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:marja11@xs4all.nl">marja11@xs4all.nl</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+Hi everyone,<br>
+<br>
+Since yesterday&#39;s meeting, Manuel is not only our Team council representative (that suggested his leadership), but formally our leader as well :-D<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-bugsquad/2011/mageia-bugsquad.2011-11-05-19.08.html" target="_blank">http://meetbot.mageia.org/<u></u>mageia-bugsquad/2011/mageia-<u></u>bugsquad.2011-11-05-19.08.html</a><br>
+<br>
+Regards,<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+Marja<br>
+<br>
+<br></font></span></blockquote><div><br>Congratulations :D <br></div></div><br>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-bugsquad/attachments/20120222/e191abc8/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-bugsquad/attachments/20120222/e191abc8/attachment-0001.html
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+<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Hi,</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>I'm sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.</span></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Respectfully,<br>Dan-Marian, Joiţa.</div> </div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Hi,</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>I'm sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.</span></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Respectfully,<br>Dan-Marian, Joiţa.</div> </div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Hi,</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>I'm not even sure what i was assigned in the first place... so i ask what is easier?</span></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Respectfully,<br>Dan-Marian, Joiţa.<br></div> <div style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_2_0_15_133002608440572"><br></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> </font></div>Hi Dan,<br><br>Good to hear from you again :)<br><br>Do you have time to help with something easier?<br><br>Regards,<br>Marja<br> </div> </div> </div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-bugsquad/attachments/20120223/766a6f57/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-bugsquad/attachments/20120223/766a6f57/attachment.html
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+<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Hi,</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>I'm not even sure what i was assigned in the first place... so i ask what is easier?</span></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Respectfully,<br>Dan-Marian, Joiţa.<br></div> <div style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="yui_3_2_0_15_133002608440572"><br></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> </font></div>Hi Dan,<br><br>Good to hear from you again :)<br><br>Do you have time to help with something easier?<br><br>Regards,<br>Marja<br> </div> </div> </div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+Hi, guys!!<br><br>I have little time to help, but I still keep an eye on Mageia and other eye to do other tasks (it makes me really owl eyes :)<br><br>I will help as I can.<br><br clear="all">Luzemário Dantas<br><br>(61) 8496-5515 (Oi)<br>
+(61) 9322-7017 (Claro)<br>(61) 8118-8199 (Tim)<br>(61) 9653-1004 (Vivo)<br>(61) 4063-6366 (Vono)<br><br>
+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/23 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-bugsquad-request@mageia.org">mageia-bugsquad-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Send Mageia-bugsquad mailing list submissions to<br>
+        <a href="mailto:mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org">mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>
+        <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</a><br>
+or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
+        <a href="mailto:mageia-bugsquad-request@mageia.org">mageia-bugsquad-request@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+You can reach the person managing the list at<br>
+        <a href="mailto:mageia-bugsquad-owner@mageia.org">mageia-bugsquad-owner@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
+than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-bugsquad digest...&quot;<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+   1. Re: your help is needed (Dj Marian)<br>
+   2. Re: your help is needed (Marja van Waes)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:33:06 -0800 (PST)<br>
+From: Dj Marian &lt;<a href="mailto:djmarian4u@yahoo.com">djmarian4u@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: &quot;<a href="mailto:mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org">mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org">mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed<br>
+Message-ID:<br>
+        &lt;<a href="mailto:1329942786.22168.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com">1329942786.22168.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;<br>
+<br>
+Hi,<br>
+<br>
+I&#39;m sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.<br>
+?<br>
+Respectfully,<br>
+Dan-Marian, Joi?a.<br>
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+<br>
+------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 2<br>
+Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:26:10 +0100<br>
+From: Marja van Waes &lt;<a href="mailto:marja11@xs4all.nl">marja11@xs4all.nl</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org">mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org</a><br>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:4F455D72.10505@xs4all.nl">4F455D72.10505@xs4all.nl</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed<br>
+<br>
+On 22/02/12 21:33, Dj Marian wrote:<br>
+&gt; Hi,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;m sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a<br>
+&gt; lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.<br>
+&gt; Respectfully,<br>
+&gt; Dan-Marian, Joi?a.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+Hi Dan,<br>
+<br>
+Good to hear from you again :)<br>
+<br>
+Do you have time to help with something easier?<br>
+<br>
+Regards,<br>
+Marja<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-bugsquad mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org">Mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-bugsquad Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2<br>
+**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+Hi, guys!!<br><br>I have little time to help, but I still keep an eye on Mageia and other eye to do other tasks (it makes me really owl eyes :)<br><br>I will help as I can.<br><br clear="all">Luzemário Dantas<br><br>(61) 8496-5515 (Oi)<br>
+(61) 9322-7017 (Claro)<br>(61) 8118-8199 (Tim)<br>(61) 9653-1004 (Vivo)<br>(61) 4063-6366 (Vono)<br><br>
+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/23 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-bugsquad-request@mageia.org">mageia-bugsquad-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Send Mageia-bugsquad mailing list submissions to<br>
+        <a href="mailto:mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org">mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>
+        <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</a><br>
+or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
+        <a href="mailto:mageia-bugsquad-request@mageia.org">mageia-bugsquad-request@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+You can reach the person managing the list at<br>
+        <a href="mailto:mageia-bugsquad-owner@mageia.org">mageia-bugsquad-owner@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
+than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-bugsquad digest...&quot;<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+   1. Re: your help is needed (Dj Marian)<br>
+   2. Re: your help is needed (Marja van Waes)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:33:06 -0800 (PST)<br>
+From: Dj Marian &lt;<a href="mailto:djmarian4u@yahoo.com">djmarian4u@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: &quot;<a href="mailto:mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org">mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org">mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed<br>
+Message-ID:<br>
+        &lt;<a href="mailto:1329942786.22168.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com">1329942786.22168.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;<br>
+<br>
+Hi,<br>
+<br>
+I&#39;m sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.<br>
+?<br>
+Respectfully,<br>
+Dan-Marian, Joi?a.<br>
+-------------- next part --------------<br>
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+<br>
+------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 2<br>
+Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:26:10 +0100<br>
+From: Marja van Waes &lt;<a href="mailto:marja11@xs4all.nl">marja11@xs4all.nl</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org">mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org</a><br>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:4F455D72.10505@xs4all.nl">4F455D72.10505@xs4all.nl</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed<br>
+<br>
+On 22/02/12 21:33, Dj Marian wrote:<br>
+&gt; Hi,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;m sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a<br>
+&gt; lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.<br>
+&gt; Respectfully,<br>
+&gt; Dan-Marian, Joi?a.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+Hi Dan,<br>
+<br>
+Good to hear from you again :)<br>
+<br>
+Do you have time to help with something easier?<br>
+<br>
+Regards,<br>
+Marja<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-bugsquad mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org">Mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-bugsquad Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2<br>
+**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+&quot;&quot;Do you have time to help with something easier?&quot;&quot;
+<br />
+<br />Yes, i do!
+<br />
+<br />
+<br />
+<br />El , mageia-bugsquad-request@mageia.org escribió:
+<br />&gt; Send Mageia-bugsquad mailing list submissions to
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;        mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;        https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;        mageia-bugsquad-request@mageia.org
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; You can reach the person managing the list at
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;        mageia-bugsquad-owner@mageia.org
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-bugsquad digest...&quot;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Today&#39;s Topics:
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;   1. Re: your help is needed (Dj Marian)
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;   2. Re: your help is needed (Marja van Waes)
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Message: 1
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:33:06 -0800 (PST)
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; From: Dj Marian djmarian4u@yahoo.com&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; To: &quot;mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org&quot; mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Subject: Re: [Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Message-ID:
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;        1329942786.22168.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Hi,
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; I&#39;m sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; ?
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Respectfully,
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Dan-Marian, Joi?a.
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+<br />&gt; Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:26:10 +0100
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; From: Marja van Waes marja11@xs4all.nl&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; To: mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Subject: Re: [Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Message-ID: 4F455D72.10505@xs4all.nl&gt;
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+<br />&gt; On 22/02/12 21:33, Dj Marian wrote:
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; &gt; Hi,
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; &gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; &gt; I&#39;m sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; &gt; lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; &gt; Respectfully,
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; &gt; Dan-Marian, Joi?a.
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; &gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Hi Dan,
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Good to hear from you again :)
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Do you have time to help with something easier?
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Regards,
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Marja
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
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+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
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+<br />&gt;
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+<br />&gt; _______________________________________________
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+<br />&gt; Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
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+<br />&gt; Mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org
+<br />&gt;
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+<br />&gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
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+<br />&gt;
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+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; End of Mageia-bugsquad Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
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+&quot;&quot;Do you have time to help with something easier?&quot;&quot;
+<br />
+<br />Yes, i do!
+<br />
+<br />
+<br />
+<br />El , mageia-bugsquad-request@mageia.org escribió:
+<br />&gt; Send Mageia-bugsquad mailing list submissions to
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;        mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org
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+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;        https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad
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+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;        mageia-bugsquad-request@mageia.org
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; You can reach the person managing the list at
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;        mageia-bugsquad-owner@mageia.org
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-bugsquad digest...&quot;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Today&#39;s Topics:
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;   1. Re: your help is needed (Dj Marian)
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;   2. Re: your help is needed (Marja van Waes)
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
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+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:33:06 -0800 (PST)
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; From: Dj Marian djmarian4u@yahoo.com&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; To: &quot;mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org&quot; mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Subject: Re: [Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Message-ID:
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;        1329942786.22168.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Hi,
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; I&#39;m sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; ?
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Respectfully,
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Dan-Marian, Joi?a.
+<br />&gt;
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+<br />&gt;
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+<br />&gt; Message: 2
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:26:10 +0100
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; From: Marja van Waes marja11@xs4all.nl&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; To: mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Subject: Re: [Mageia-bugsquad] your help is needed
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Message-ID: 4F455D72.10505@xs4all.nl&gt;
+<br />&gt;
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+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; On 22/02/12 21:33, Dj Marian wrote:
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; &gt; Hi,
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; &gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; &gt; I&#39;m sorry to not have done much for the bug squad, i am still in a
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; &gt; lack of knowledge. I will try to learn from the bugs i submit.
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; &gt; Respectfully,
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; &gt; Dan-Marian, Joi?a.
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; &gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Hi Dan,
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Good to hear from you again :)
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Do you have time to help with something easier?
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Regards,
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Marja
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
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+<br />&gt; ------------------------------
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; _______________________________________________
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Mageia-bugsquad mailing list
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; Mageia-bugsquad@mageia.org
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-bugsquad
+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt;
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+<br />&gt;
+<br />&gt; End of Mageia-bugsquad Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2
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+<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To whom it
+may concern: I tried to install Mageia 2 RC and at the end of the installation
+it told me that it could not install my Radeon 3000 HD graphics driver but after
+I rebooted the system it said that I would be able to manually install it
+myself. So after rebooting the system an error message came up and said that
+Plymouth failed to start and would not let me into the OS to fix and install the
+graphics driver manually. This problem also occurred when I tried to install
+Mageia 2 Beta 3 a few weeks ago, it seems to either not be able to find or not
+be able to install it. I’m not sure which it is, but without installing it at
+the end of the installation of the program it won’t let me into the OS after
+rebooting. I hope this problem can be resolved. I have noticed with other
+linux&nbsp; distros that graphics drivers seem to be an issue. If you could drop
+me a line when you fix this problem I would really appreciate it. I really love
+Mageia and cannot wait to start using it, Mageia 1 was&nbsp; a very good
+beginning for the first OS. You impressed me, and that says a lot because I’m
+not impressed that easy. Thank you, Joey. PS, let me know when its
+fixed.</DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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+<DIV dir=ltr>
+<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To whom it
+may concern: I tried to install Mageia 2 RC and at the end of the installation
+it told me that it could not install my Radeon 3000 HD graphics driver but after
+I rebooted the system it said that I would be able to manually install it
+myself. So after rebooting the system an error message came up and said that
+Plymouth failed to start and would not let me into the OS to fix and install the
+graphics driver manually. This problem also occurred when I tried to install
+Mageia 2 Beta 3 a few weeks ago, it seems to either not be able to find or not
+be able to install it. I’m not sure which it is, but without installing it at
+the end of the installation of the program it won’t let me into the OS after
+rebooting. I hope this problem can be resolved. I have noticed with other
+linux&nbsp; distros that graphics drivers seem to be an issue. If you could drop
+me a line when you fix this problem I would really appreciate it. I really love
+Mageia and cannot wait to start using it, Mageia 1 was&nbsp; a very good
+beginning for the first OS. You impressed me, and that says a lot because I’m
+not impressed that easy. Thank you, Joey. PS, let me know when its
+fixed.</DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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+<BODY dir=ltr>
+<DIV dir=ltr>
+<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
+<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
+<DIV
+style="FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none">
+<DIV style="FONT: 10pt tahoma">
+<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
+<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
+<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=joep2695@msn.com
+href="mailto:joep2695@msn.com">Joe</A> </DIV>
+<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:35 PM</DIV>
+<DIV><B>To:</B>&nbsp; </DIV>
+<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Ati Radeon Driver and Plymouth Bugs</DIV></DIV></DIV>
+<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
+<DIV
+style="FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none">
+<DIV dir=ltr>
+<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To whom it
+may concern, I cannot understand the logic with not being able to install the
+Radeon graphics driver during installation. You did offer it in Mageia 1, why
+not in Mageia 2. It makes no sense at all, you need to correct this issue with
+no excuses. I am sick and tired of garbage excuses. When you create a product
+you don’t half finish it, don’t make it so dam frustrating. I know you people
+are very young and might not understand, but you cannot make a product so that
+it won’t work or if it does it works like an abortion. You must allow the option
+to install the graphics driver during the install correctly, without any
+excuses, so the system will reboot and work. I cannot make it any more plainer
+than that. I do not want to go thru any freakin hoops to install this program.
+Its like buying a new car&nbsp; but not getting the motor, do you understand
+what I mean, its half finished. Also you have some major issues with plymouth,
+it does not work. Please respond. I’m sorry for being so upset, but it is very
+frustrating. I have tried over 12 times to make this OS function correctly. I’m
+done.</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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+<BODY dir=ltr>
+<DIV dir=ltr>
+<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
+<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
+<DIV
+style="FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none">
+<DIV style="FONT: 10pt tahoma">
+<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
+<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
+<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=joep2695@msn.com
+href="mailto:joep2695@msn.com">Joe</A> </DIV>
+<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:35 PM</DIV>
+<DIV><B>To:</B>&nbsp; </DIV>
+<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Ati Radeon Driver and Plymouth Bugs</DIV></DIV></DIV>
+<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
+<DIV
+style="FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none">
+<DIV dir=ltr>
+<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To whom it
+may concern, I cannot understand the logic with not being able to install the
+Radeon graphics driver during installation. You did offer it in Mageia 1, why
+not in Mageia 2. It makes no sense at all, you need to correct this issue with
+no excuses. I am sick and tired of garbage excuses. When you create a product
+you don’t half finish it, don’t make it so dam frustrating. I know you people
+are very young and might not understand, but you cannot make a product so that
+it won’t work or if it does it works like an abortion. You must allow the option
+to install the graphics driver during the install correctly, without any
+excuses, so the system will reboot and work. I cannot make it any more plainer
+than that. I do not want to go thru any freakin hoops to install this program.
+Its like buying a new car&nbsp; but not getting the motor, do you understand
+what I mean, its half finished. Also you have some major issues with plymouth,
+it does not work. Please respond. I’m sorry for being so upset, but it is very
+frustrating. I have tried over 12 times to make this OS function correctly. I’m
+done.</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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+ Le 13/06/2012 01:06, Joe a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:BAY156-ds15DB4FE037D86D79B0838DDF60@phx.gbl"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div style="font-family: 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
+ font-size: 12pt;">
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ <div style="FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY:
+ 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT:
+ normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none">
+ <div style="FONT: 10pt tahoma">
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ <div style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
+ <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true" title="joep2695@msn.com"
+ href="mailto:joep2695@msn.com">Joe</a> </div>
+ <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:35 PM</div>
+ <div><b>To:</b>&nbsp; </div>
+ <div><b>Subject:</b> Ati Radeon Driver and Plymouth Bugs</div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ </div>
+ <div style="font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family:
+ 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: small;
+ font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none;">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div style="font-family: 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
+ font-size: 12pt;">To whom it may concern, I cannot
+ understand the logic with not being able to install the
+ Radeon graphics driver during installation. </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:BAY156-ds15DB4FE037D86D79B0838DDF60@phx.gbl"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div style="font-family: 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
+ font-size: 12pt;">
+ <div style="font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family:
+ 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: small;
+ font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none;">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div style="font-family: 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
+ font-size: 12pt;">[...]</div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:BAY156-ds15DB4FE037D86D79B0838DDF60@phx.gbl"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE:
+ 12pt">
+ <div style="FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY:
+ 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT:
+ normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000;
+ FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Please respond. I&#8217;m sorry for being so
+ upset, but it is very frustrating. I have tried over 12
+ times to make this OS function correctly. I&#8217;m done.</div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ No, personally, I will not replay and answer to your email as this
+ mailing list is not a support one. You have to use the
+ mageia-discuss@ or use the forum.<br>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
+ Le 13/06/2012 01:06, Joe a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:BAY156-ds15DB4FE037D86D79B0838DDF60@phx.gbl"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div style="font-family: 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
+ font-size: 12pt;">
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ <div style="FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY:
+ 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT:
+ normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none">
+ <div style="FONT: 10pt tahoma">
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ <div style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
+ <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true" title="joep2695@msn.com"
+ href="mailto:joep2695@msn.com">Joe</a> </div>
+ <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:35 PM</div>
+ <div><b>To:</b>&nbsp; </div>
+ <div><b>Subject:</b> Ati Radeon Driver and Plymouth Bugs</div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ </div>
+ <div style="font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family:
+ 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: small;
+ font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none;">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div style="font-family: 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
+ font-size: 12pt;">To whom it may concern, I cannot
+ understand the logic with not being able to install the
+ Radeon graphics driver during installation. </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:BAY156-ds15DB4FE037D86D79B0838DDF60@phx.gbl"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div style="font-family: 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
+ font-size: 12pt;">
+ <div style="font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family:
+ 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: small;
+ font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none;">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div style="font-family: 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
+ font-size: 12pt;">[...]</div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:BAY156-ds15DB4FE037D86D79B0838DDF60@phx.gbl"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE:
+ 12pt">
+ <div style="FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY:
+ 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT:
+ normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000;
+ FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Please respond. I&#8217;m sorry for being so
+ upset, but it is very frustrating. I have tried over 12
+ times to make this OS function correctly. I&#8217;m done.</div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ No, personally, I will not replay and answer to your email as this
+ mailing list is not a support one. You have to use the
+ mageia-discuss@ or use the forum.<br>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-bugsquad/attachments/20120705/5d970740/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-bugsquad/attachments/20120705/5d970740/attachment-0001.html
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd">
+<html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><style type="text/css">
+p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
+</style></head><body style=" font-family:'Sans Serif'; font-size:10pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Hi,</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Here at QA the bugzilla notifications we get at qa-bugs@ml.mageia.org are one of our main tool to get information about what's going on regarding update candidates. Every bit of information we can gather using one single look is a gain in time and clarity.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Now that we will get backports to test, we would like to be able to differentiate mails concerning updates from those concerning backports, ideally with ability to filter in our mail client.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">We envisioned 2 different solutions at tonights QA meeting, but maybe you have other ideas.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">*** Solution 1 : a qa-backports mailing list ***</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Bug reports for backport validation would have to be assigned to qa-backports instead of qa-bugs.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">*** Solution 2 : formatted bug summary ***</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">We would keep only one mailing list, but mail subjects would have to contain the needed information.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Example:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- [qa-bugs] [Bug 6707] Update: mumble new security issue CVE-2012-0863</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- [qa-bugs] [Bug 5142] Backport: tremulous 3.0</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">This would mean more work for packagers and bugsquad to make sure the bug report has a well-formatted summary.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Ideally, it would be good if we could see also from the mail subject what version(s) of Mageia the update or backport is for, such as :</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- [qa-bugs] [Bug 6707] Update: mumble new security issue CVE-2012-0863 [mga1]</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- [qa-bugs] [Bug 5142] Backport: tremulous 3.0 [mga1][mga2]</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">What solution do you think we should choose? #1, #2, another one? And if we go for solution #1 do you think we can still have the [mgaX] part (like was done on some bugs already)?</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Best regards</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Samuel Verschelde</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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--- /dev/null
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@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd">
+<html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><style type="text/css">
+p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
+</style></head><body style=" font-family:'Sans Serif'; font-size:10pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Hi,</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Here at QA the bugzilla notifications we get at qa-bugs@ml.mageia.org are one of our main tool to get information about what's going on regarding update candidates. Every bit of information we can gather using one single look is a gain in time and clarity.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Now that we will get backports to test, we would like to be able to differentiate mails concerning updates from those concerning backports, ideally with ability to filter in our mail client.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">We envisioned 2 different solutions at tonights QA meeting, but maybe you have other ideas.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">*** Solution 1 : a qa-backports mailing list ***</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Bug reports for backport validation would have to be assigned to qa-backports instead of qa-bugs.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">*** Solution 2 : formatted bug summary ***</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">We would keep only one mailing list, but mail subjects would have to contain the needed information.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Example:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- [qa-bugs] [Bug 6707] Update: mumble new security issue CVE-2012-0863</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- [qa-bugs] [Bug 5142] Backport: tremulous 3.0</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">This would mean more work for packagers and bugsquad to make sure the bug report has a well-formatted summary.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Ideally, it would be good if we could see also from the mail subject what version(s) of Mageia the update or backport is for, such as :</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- [qa-bugs] [Bug 6707] Update: mumble new security issue CVE-2012-0863 [mga1]</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- [qa-bugs] [Bug 5142] Backport: tremulous 3.0 [mga1][mga2]</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">What solution do you think we should choose? #1, #2, another one? And if we go for solution #1 do you think we can still have the [mgaX] part (like was done on some bugs already)?</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Best regards</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Samuel Verschelde</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p>Quiero ponerme en contacto con gente que hable español para intentar enterarme de algo y colaborar. Luego con mi poco ingles me apañaria. Gracias.<br>
+Thank you all. Sorry for this message. I&#39;ll write in inglish next time.</p>
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+<p>Quiero ponerme en contacto con gente que hable español para intentar enterarme de algo y colaborar. Luego con mi poco ingles me apañaria. Gracias.<br>
+Thank you all. Sorry for this message. I&#39;ll write in inglish next time.</p>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-bugsquad/attachments/20121031/3efa6ae3/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-bugsquad/attachments/20121031/3efa6ae3/attachment-0001.html
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+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
+ <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed;
+ font-size: 12px;" lang="x-western">Here is my proposal for the
+ bugs against mga1 which will be End Of Life in December.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ After a quick cleaning we have still '312' Mageia 1 bugs. The deal
+ is to close them.
+ <br>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ver%3A1">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ver%3A1</a>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I will send this message tomorrow or Friday:
+ <br>
+ (text come from fedora)<br>
+ <br>
+ &gt;This message is a reminder that Mageia 1 is nearing its end of
+ life.
+ <br>
+ &gt;Approximately 30 (thirty) days from now Mageia will stop
+ maintaining and issuing
+ <br>
+ &gt;updates for Mageia 1. At that time this bug will be closed as
+ WONTFIX if it
+ <br>
+ &gt;remains open with a Mageia 'version' of '1'.
+ <br>
+ &gt;<br>
+ &gt;Package Maintainer: If you wish for this bug to remain open
+ because you plan to
+ <br>
+ &gt;fix it in a currently maintained version, simply change the
+ 'version' to a later
+ <br>
+ &gt;Mageia version prior to Mageia 1's end of life.
+ <br>
+ &gt;<br>
+ &gt;Bug Reporter: Thank you for reporting this issue and we are
+ sorry that we may not
+ <br>
+ &gt;be able to fix it before Mageia 1 is end of life.&nbsp; If you
+ would still like to see
+ <br>
+ &gt;this bug fixed and are able to reproduce it against a later
+ version of Mageia,
+ <br>
+ &gt;you are encouraged to click on "Version" and change it against
+ that version
+ <br>
+ &gt;of Mageia.
+ <br>
+ &gt;<br>
+ &gt;Although we aim to fix as many bugs as possible during every
+ releases lifetime,
+ <br>
+ &gt;sometimes those efforts are overtaken by events. Often a more
+ recent Mageia
+ <br>
+ &gt;release includes newer upstream software that fixes bugs or
+ makes them obsolete.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ And for the 1rst December:
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ &gt;Mageia 1 changed to end-of-life (EOL) status on ''1rst
+ December''. Mageia 1 is no
+ <br>
+ &gt;longer maintained, which means that it will not receive any
+ further security or
+ <br>
+ &gt;bug fix updates. As a result we are closing this bug.
+ <br>
+ &gt;<br>
+ &gt;If you can reproduce this bug against a currently maintained
+ version of Mageia
+ <br>
+ &gt;please feel free to click on "Version" change it against that
+ version of Mageia.
+ <br>
+ &gt;And reopen this bug.
+ <br>
+ &gt;<br>
+ &gt;Thank you for reporting this bug and we are sorry it could not
+ be fixed.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Maintenance_of_bug_reports#End_of_life_.28EOL.29_Release">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Maintenance_of_bug_reports#End_of_life_.28EOL.29_Release</a><br>
+ Any objection ?
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ (btw, Sander95 proposed to add a specific status EOL instead of
+ WONTFIX which seems not a bad ideas.
+ <br>
+ but if we had right on it be sure users, can reopen themselves the
+ bug)
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
+ <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed;
+ font-size: 12px;" lang="x-western">Here is my proposal for the
+ bugs against mga1 which will be End Of Life in December.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ After a quick cleaning we have still '312' Mageia 1 bugs. The deal
+ is to close them.
+ <br>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ver%3A1">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ver%3A1</a>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I will send this message tomorrow or Friday:
+ <br>
+ (text come from fedora)<br>
+ <br>
+ &gt;This message is a reminder that Mageia 1 is nearing its end of
+ life.
+ <br>
+ &gt;Approximately 30 (thirty) days from now Mageia will stop
+ maintaining and issuing
+ <br>
+ &gt;updates for Mageia 1. At that time this bug will be closed as
+ WONTFIX if it
+ <br>
+ &gt;remains open with a Mageia 'version' of '1'.
+ <br>
+ &gt;<br>
+ &gt;Package Maintainer: If you wish for this bug to remain open
+ because you plan to
+ <br>
+ &gt;fix it in a currently maintained version, simply change the
+ 'version' to a later
+ <br>
+ &gt;Mageia version prior to Mageia 1's end of life.
+ <br>
+ &gt;<br>
+ &gt;Bug Reporter: Thank you for reporting this issue and we are
+ sorry that we may not
+ <br>
+ &gt;be able to fix it before Mageia 1 is end of life.&nbsp; If you
+ would still like to see
+ <br>
+ &gt;this bug fixed and are able to reproduce it against a later
+ version of Mageia,
+ <br>
+ &gt;you are encouraged to click on "Version" and change it against
+ that version
+ <br>
+ &gt;of Mageia.
+ <br>
+ &gt;<br>
+ &gt;Although we aim to fix as many bugs as possible during every
+ releases lifetime,
+ <br>
+ &gt;sometimes those efforts are overtaken by events. Often a more
+ recent Mageia
+ <br>
+ &gt;release includes newer upstream software that fixes bugs or
+ makes them obsolete.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ And for the 1rst December:
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ &gt;Mageia 1 changed to end-of-life (EOL) status on ''1rst
+ December''. Mageia 1 is no
+ <br>
+ &gt;longer maintained, which means that it will not receive any
+ further security or
+ <br>
+ &gt;bug fix updates. As a result we are closing this bug.
+ <br>
+ &gt;<br>
+ &gt;If you can reproduce this bug against a currently maintained
+ version of Mageia
+ <br>
+ &gt;please feel free to click on "Version" change it against that
+ version of Mageia.
+ <br>
+ &gt;And reopen this bug.
+ <br>
+ &gt;<br>
+ &gt;Thank you for reporting this bug and we are sorry it could not
+ be fixed.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Maintenance_of_bug_reports#End_of_life_.28EOL.29_Release">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Maintenance_of_bug_reports#End_of_life_.28EOL.29_Release</a><br>
+ Any objection ?
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ (btw, Sander95 proposed to add a specific status EOL instead of
+ WONTFIX which seems not a bad ideas.
+ <br>
+ but if we had right on it be sure users, can reopen themselves the
+ bug)
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ Le 01/11/2012 08:34, Marja van Waes a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:50922614.30600@xs4all.nl" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi everyone,
+
+Before I start going over old NEEDINFO bugs again:
+
+According to the triage guide, incomplete bugs should, if the
+requested info isn't supplied, be closed as INVALID.
+
+I don't see anything about originally <b class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>valid<span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></b> bugs, where later
+additional information was requested (e.g. because it was filed
+against cauldron and cauldron changed a lot, or because the involved
+package was updated).
+
+I did close those as OLD if the reporter didn't reply. Was that good
+to do in the first place?
+
+If it was good: I'm now wondering how I can keep myself from
+accidentally closing reports that have <b class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>never<span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></b> been valid, as OLD
+instead of as INVALID, if I don't take a lot more time to read the
+reports :/
+
+Cheers,
+Marja</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Well the triage guide was originally copy-paste from mdv, so we can
+ do whatever we want too.<br>
+ And beside for ours stats, or angry users, I guess make it simple
+ without detailing doesn't shock anyone.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp; <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
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+ Le 01/11/2012 08:34, Marja van Waes a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:50922614.30600@xs4all.nl" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi everyone,
+
+Before I start going over old NEEDINFO bugs again:
+
+According to the triage guide, incomplete bugs should, if the
+requested info isn't supplied, be closed as INVALID.
+
+I don't see anything about originally <b class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>valid<span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></b> bugs, where later
+additional information was requested (e.g. because it was filed
+against cauldron and cauldron changed a lot, or because the involved
+package was updated).
+
+I did close those as OLD if the reporter didn't reply. Was that good
+to do in the first place?
+
+If it was good: I'm now wondering how I can keep myself from
+accidentally closing reports that have <b class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>never<span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></b> been valid, as OLD
+instead of as INVALID, if I don't take a lot more time to read the
+reports :/
+
+Cheers,
+Marja</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Well the triage guide was originally copy-paste from mdv, so we can
+ do whatever we want too.<br>
+ And beside for ours stats, or angry users, I guess make it simple
+ without detailing doesn't shock anyone.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp; <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+Hello, <br><br>A few days ago I installed Mageia and I like it so far,<br>I have read that some teams need some help, <br>Now I think this team can be something for me.<br><br>So I wonder if this team need some help?<br>I have not any experience in bug traiging so I hope someone can learn it to me.<br><br>Roelof<br><br> </div></body>
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+Hello, <br><br>A few days ago I installed Mageia and I like it so far,<br>I have read that some teams need some help, <br>Now I think this team can be something for me.<br><br>So I wonder if this team need some help?<br>I have not any experience in bug traiging so I hope someone can learn it to me.<br><br>Roelof<br><br> </div></body>
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+
+Hello, <BR>&nbsp;<BR>What's the best way to take care of this bug.<BR>In my opinion the TS breaks his own system and blaims us for breaking.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>bug url&nbsp;: <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8480">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8480</a><BR>&nbsp;<BR>Roelof<BR> </div></body>
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+
+Hello, <BR>&nbsp;<BR>What's the best way to take care of this bug.<BR>In my opinion the TS breaks his own system and blaims us for breaking.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>bug url&nbsp;: <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8480">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8480</a><BR>&nbsp;<BR>Roelof<BR> </div></body>
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+
+Hello, <BR>&nbsp;<BR>After a month trying I get the feeling that Mageia is a good distro but not for me.<BR>I used to fine tune everything when I use source based distro's or FreeBSD and I miss that on Mageia.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>So im quitting on bugsquad also. I regret it also because it was a fun team to work with.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Im looking for a expert who can help me to unsubscribe from the ML because when I try it I see a error page that something is wrong with the webserver.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I wish you all the luck.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Roelof Wobben <BR>&nbsp;<BR> </div></body>
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+<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>
+
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