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   <H1>[Mageia-bugsquad] Discuss until friday 24.00 h UTC (before next meeting)</H1>
    <B>Manuel Hiebel</B> 
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    <I>Thu Nov  3 20:59:26 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 &#224; 14:06 +0100, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> Horrible, I was too much in a hurry when I wrote the part about 
</I>&gt;<i> being/not being available for a meeting, sorry :-[
</I>&gt;<i> It should be:
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Marja *is* available for a meeting saturday and sunday, except saturday 
</I>&gt;<i> between 10.00h UTC and 18.00h UTC
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Op 31-10-11 08:12, Marja van Waes schreef:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Marja isn't available for a meeting saturday and sunday, except 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; saturday between 10.00h UTC and 18.00h UTC
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If you want to join the meeting: please add here what times you're 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; available.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op 28-10-11 18:31, Marja van Waes schreef:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi everyone,
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; At this moment, we have four subjects to discuss:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;   1. Groups permission, add status ?
</I>The subject &quot;add status&quot; was alredy discuss with the &quot;TRIAGED&quot; status so
for me it's on the mageia-dev (a mail was send by stormi)

I can not remember why I have add this &quot;Groups permission&quot; on the wiki.
Seems it's better to give full power to all people, I don't see at the
moment what we (triage guys) need more.

&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;   2. what to do for unconfirmed bug. (like bug 2081
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;      <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2081</A>
</I>Same topic that &quot;add status&quot;.
If I'm not wrong, there is a status UNCONFIRMED but only accessible (for
us) after that the bug was closed.
I will ask dmorgan if he can allow the status transitions new &gt;
unconfirmed.

&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;   3. bug 1364 &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364</A>&gt; Does it
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;      irritate most of us, to have to fill out a comment field when
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;      closing a bug as duplicate?
</I>For me there is no problem to add a comment (since I have make a little
script, but I can't redistribute it for now, too dirty)

&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;   4. How do we improve the way we communicate with reporters and one
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;      another about how much is done (bug 3047
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3047</A>&gt; comment 18)
</I>I think it's better to say what we make, like &quot;bug assigned to
maintainer&quot;, so same as 3. 

&gt;<i> &gt; 5.I'd like to add a fifth subject: on the tenth of october, I sent a 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; mail to our ml asking who would be willing to help DJ Marian to learn 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to triage. No one replied
</I>Maybe I can try but I don't know what to said. :)
Personally I have read bugs@ and ask on irc (French or development
channel)

&gt;<i> &gt; 6. In the Bug Squad page in our new wiki, I put: Team leaders: Shared 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; responsibility of the team members
</I>Well if nodody want I can take this great role. (same as council) :D

&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; My ideas are:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; # 1 Postpone that subject again
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; # 2 Let the developer of the package decide
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; # 3 It's good to explain why you think it is a duplicate so I think 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 1364 should be closed
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; # 4 Make time to communicate. We have more time when we have more 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; triagers: /Idea:/ Explain to all packagers that there are barely any 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; triagers and ask them who is willing to become a member of the bug 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; squad _only for one or more of their own packages_
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; # 5 At this moment, with the work on the new wiki, I don't have time 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; either :(
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If no one else volunteers and if most of us agree, I'm willing to 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; become team leader if Manuel is willing to become deputy team leader.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (Yes, Samuel would be a better leader than me, as soon as he's got 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; enough time I'll gladly resign in favour of him :-) )
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Please share what you think about these - and maybe more - issues
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Regards,
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Marja
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>

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