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+ <H1>[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks</H1>
+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Mageia%20IRC%20cloaks&In-Reply-To=%3C4F4FE186.3070701%40gmx.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com
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+ <I>Thu Mar 1 21:52:22 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi Trish
+
+As you know you asked me on IRC for more information about the IRC cloaks.
+
+Mageia needs to be registered first on Freenode as a group. Whoever set
+up the original Mageia channels such as #mageia and #mageia-dev has
+hopefully probably already done this over a year ago.
+
+Then once Mageia is officially registered with Freenode, a group contact
+can do certain things such as asking the Freenode staff to give
+contributors IRC cloaks.
+
+I already knew about this, but my other email didn't explain how to do it.
+
+Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested, and here
+are links:
+
+<A HREF="http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml">http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml">http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml</A>
+
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+<PRE>Hi Seb,
+
+I'll take a look at this on the weekend and come back if I have
+questions - thanks for the hard work!
+
+&gt;<i> As you know you asked me on IRC for more information about the IRC
+</I>&gt;<i> cloaks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia needs to be registered first on Freenode as a group. Whoever
+</I>&gt;<i> set up the original Mageia channels such as #mageia and #mageia-dev
+</I>&gt;<i> has hopefully probably already done this over a year ago.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then once Mageia is officially registered with Freenode, a group
+</I>&gt;<i> contact can do certain things such as asking the Freenode staff to
+</I>&gt;<i> give contributors IRC cloaks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I already knew about this, but my other email didn't explain how to
+</I>&gt;<i> do it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested, and
+</I>&gt;<i> here are links:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml">http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml">http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/gms.shtml">http://freenode.net/gms.shtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
+
+
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+Fri Mar 2 12:14:30 EST 2012
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hi Seb,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll take a look at this on the weekend and come back if I have
+</I>&gt;<i> questions
+</I>Ok :).
+&gt;<i> - thanks for the hard work!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As you know you asked me on IRC for more information about the IRC
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cloaks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia needs to be registered first on Freenode as a group. Whoever
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> set up the original Mageia channels such as #mageia and #mageia-dev
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> has hopefully probably already done this over a year ago.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Then once Mageia is officially registered with Freenode, a group
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> contact can do certain things such as asking the Freenode staff to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> give contributors IRC cloaks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I already knew about this, but my other email didn't explain how to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> do it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here are links:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml">http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml">http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freenode.net/gms.shtml">http://freenode.net/gms.shtml</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> From Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+We have to hold our team elections this month. This means electing a
+team leader and a deputy leader.
+
+At the moment we have a team leader (me) and a very quiet team. Now is
+the time to raise your head, and at least vote, or even stand for one
+of the positions - we need you!
+
+I'm happy to stand if nobody comes forward, but I'd really like to see
+some people step up for at least one of the positions.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Tue Mar 6 08:07:10 EST 2012
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+ <B>Josh King</B>
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+<PRE>On 03/05/2012 03:12 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have to hold our team elections this month. This means electing a
+</I>&gt;<i> team leader and a deputy leader.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At the moment we have a team leader (me) and a very quiet team. Now is
+</I>&gt;<i> the time to raise your head, and at least vote, or even stand for one
+</I>&gt;<i> of the positions - we need you!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm happy to stand if nobody comes forward, but I'd really like to see
+</I>&gt;<i> some people step up for at least one of the positions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>
+I'd be happy to assist as deputy team leader. I'd love to be more active
+in marketing, and this may be a good opportunity for me. I do have some
+experience with marketing and community relationship building.
+
+Is there anything else required to volunteer to be on the ballot?
+
+Thanks!
+Josh
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Josh!
+
+&gt;<i> I'd be happy to assist as deputy team leader. I'd love to be more
+</I>&gt;<i> active in marketing, and this may be a good opportunity for me. I do
+</I>&gt;<i> have some experience with marketing and community relationship
+</I>&gt;<i> building.
+</I>
+Brilliant - thanks for stepping up!
+
+&gt;<i> Is there anything else required to volunteer to be on the ballot?
+</I>
+Not that I know of! Just being willing is more than enough - we're all
+working it out as we go along.
+
+So, candidates at the moment are:
+
+Me
+Josh
+
+- anyone else want to pitch in?
+
+Cheers!
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>On 05/03/12 22:45, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd be happy to assist as deputy team leader. I'd love to be more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> active in marketing, and this may be a good opportunity for me. I do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have some experience with marketing and community relationship
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> building.
+</I>&gt;<i> Brilliant - thanks for stepping up!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is there anything else required to volunteer to be on the ballot?
+</I>&gt;<i> Not that I know of! Just being willing is more than enough - we're all
+</I>&gt;<i> working it out as we go along.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, candidates at the moment are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Me
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - anyone else want to pitch in?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>Hi
+
+I was wondering when Trish would email about that since i18n has been
+sorting out theirs.
+
+According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two people
+can have the same position as well:
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</A>
+
+What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader exactly?
+I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in the council
+meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down for a vote on
+being a representative, however I would like to do this with someone
+else as well such as Trish.
+
+This is what I would like I think:
+
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+Deputy Leader: Josh
+Council representatives: Trish and myself
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was wondering when Trish would email about that since i18n has been
+</I>&gt;<i> sorting out theirs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+</I>&gt;<i> leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two people
+</I>&gt;<i> can have the same position as well:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader exactly?
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in the council
+</I>&gt;<i> meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down for a vote on
+</I>&gt;<i> being a representative, however I would like to do this with someone
+</I>&gt;<i> else as well such as Trish.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is what I would like I think:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Leader: Trish
+</I>&gt;<i> Deputy Leader: Josh
+</I>&gt;<i> Council representatives: Trish and myself
+</I>
+This looks good to me. I'll second this same ballot.
+
+
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+&gt;<i> On 03/05/2012 04:59 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was wondering when Trish would email about that since i18n has been
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sorting out theirs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two people
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> can have the same position as well:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader exactly?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in the council
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down for a vote on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> being a representative, however I would like to do this with someone
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> else as well such as Trish.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is what I would like I think:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Leader: Trish
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Deputy Leader: Josh
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Council representatives: Trish and myself
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This looks good to me. I'll second this same ballot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Ok good :).
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+
+&gt;<i> According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+</I>&gt;<i> leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two
+</I>&gt;<i> people can have the same position as well:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader
+</I>&gt;<i> exactly? I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in
+</I>&gt;<i> the council meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down
+</I>&gt;<i> for a vote on being a representative, however I would like to do this
+</I>&gt;<i> with someone else as well such as Trish.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is what I would like I think:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Leader: Trish
+</I>&gt;<i> Deputy Leader: Josh
+</I>&gt;<i> Council representatives: Trish and myself
+</I>
+I'm not sure whether we get 2 slots on council - I'll ask. Someone
+mentioned it at the meeting today, but I didn't think the answer was
+very clear.
+
+So, let's see if anyone else puts their hand up - give it 24-48 hours
+for the time zones to go round, and then we'll vote, okay?
+
+Cheers!
+
+
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+
+Good this is being done now. I thought about contacting you about it,
+because the translations team (i18n) was doing it.
+
+Agreed it was not clear in the meeting about how many people could be
+team council representatives.
+
+Sounds good to me giving it 24-48 hours or so for the time zones, and
+then voting :).
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+
+On 05/03/12 23:41, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people can have the same position as well:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> exactly? I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the council meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for a vote on being a representative, however I would like to do this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with someone else as well such as Trish.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is what I would like I think:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Leader: Trish
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Deputy Leader: Josh
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Council representatives: Trish and myself
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure whether we get 2 slots on council - I'll ask. Someone
+</I>&gt;<i> mentioned it at the meeting today, but I didn't think the answer was
+</I>&gt;<i> very clear.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, let's see if anyone else puts their hand up - give it 24-48 hours
+</I>&gt;<i> for the time zones to go round, and then we'll vote, okay?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+On 03/05/2012 04:07 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Trish
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good this is being done now. I thought about contacting you about it,
+</I>&gt;<i> because the translations team (i18n) was doing it.
+</I>
+Hi Sebastian,
+
+I'm not really sure what the context of your reply is supposed to be
+addressing. Perhaps it is because you top-posted and therefore the
+context of the thread was lost?
+
+So I'll just ask:
+
+1.) What is being done now?
+
+2.) You thought about contacting Trish about what?
+
+3.) What is the i18n team doing about what?
+
+Also, if you have a moment, pls see...
+<A HREF="http://bit.ly/wAOrkk">http://bit.ly/wAOrkk</A>
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+Hi Bradley,
+
+&gt;<i> Also, if you have a moment, pls see...
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://bit.ly/wAOrkk">http://bit.ly/wAOrkk</A>
+</I>
+This is a great resource! Thanks for posting it. I've been a bit lax
+myself in the top-posting and trimming - associating with too many
+people at work who just don't know the right way (and get mad if you
+tell them).
+
+As an aside, are you standing or voting in the team election, or both?
+
+Cheers!
+
+- --
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
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+Tue Mar 6 15:12:54 EST 2012
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+On 03/05/2012 01:12 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have to hold our team elections this month. This means electing a
+</I>&gt;<i> team leader and a deputy leader.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At the moment we have a team leader (me) and a very quiet team. Now is
+</I>&gt;<i> the time to raise your head, and at least vote, or even stand for one
+</I>&gt;<i> of the positions - we need you!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm happy to stand if nobody comes forward, but I'd really like to see
+</I>&gt;<i> some people step up for at least one of the positions.
+</I>
+I would like to throw my hat into the ring for the Deputy Team Lead
+position.
+
+Qualifications:
+
+Has served on the Mageia Marcom team since the beginning, and promoted
+our business product offerings in an ambassadorial manner in published
+articles, community forums, and technical How-Tos.
+
+Created Linboard Linux, one of the first ever Linux distributions, as
+well as the retail distribution channel which made it available on the
+shelves of several major software stores and computer retailers.
+
+Was an advocate for Mandrake Linux (prior to the IPO), urging the
+adoption of what was a most excellent desktop operating system to our
+corporate clients and everyday n00bs alike.
+
+Is the CTO of NorthTech Computer - A provider of Enterprise Cloud and
+Telephony services, and as far as I know, the only commercial provider
+of Mageia based virtualization products in the United States.
+
+Is an enthusiastic advocate for the adoption of Mageia for use as an
+everyday operating environment for new and seasoned users alike.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
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+On 02/24/2012 08:54 AM, Bradley D. Thornton wrote:
+&gt;<i> I haven't seen that our forum on LQ has been created yet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any update on this yet?
+</I>
+
+Hi Trish,
+
+I posed the question above over a week ago, and haven't heard anything
+back on this yet.
+
+If you could please raise this issue at the next council meeting you
+attend so we have an idea as to when we'll be getting our own forum at
+LQ that would be great!
+
+I'm anxious to get this going, and there is interest as well as real
+marketing potential just by virtue of having our own forum there.
+
+I've also re-worked one of my Mageia reviews just so I can publish it at
+LQ and DistroWatch coinciding with the debut of this forum.
+
+I'll wait until hearing back from you, and you may also mention at the
+next meeting that I can liaise w/Jeremy directly if need be, to help
+getting things rolling along.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
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+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
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+On 03/05/2012 02:59 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+</I>&gt;<i> leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two people
+</I>&gt;<i> can have the same position as well:
+</I>
+I am interested on getting clarification on this item, as it relates to
+*council representatives*.
+
+If someone can get back and post once the matter of whether there can be
+two, or only one council rep, it would be most appreciated.
+
+I'll be better able to determine at that point whether I would be
+interested in officially offering to volunteer as a council rep
+*instead* of deputy team lead for Marcom.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
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+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+On 03/05/2012 08:14 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Bradley,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also, if you have a moment, pls see...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://bit.ly/wAOrkk">http://bit.ly/wAOrkk</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a great resource! Thanks for posting it.
+</I>
+Yes it really seems to help a lot. Many lists with high turn-over rates
+tend to benefit from it when top-posting occasionally begins to get out
+of control.
+
+The hard part is finding a coy way to deliver the suggestion w/o
+offending the top-poster.
+
+I find that simply explaining that I didn't understand due to the lack
+of context, coupled with offering a link that may explain how to fix
+that, offends much less often than the saber rattling and flaming that
+many well intentioned list admins engage in.
+
+Bottom line, if someone insists on top-posting after they understand why
+not to, then most folks I know just tend to filter their emails to
+/dev/null anyway.
+
+As you indicate below, the important thing to always remember is that
+even though someone is top-posting, their intent is indeed to be
+contributory and participatory, and not to prompt folks to filter them
+or delete their posts as a result of bad form.
+
+I've been a bit lax
+&gt;<i> myself in the top-posting and trimming - associating with too many
+</I>&gt;<i> people at work who just don't know the right way (and get mad if you
+</I>&gt;<i> tell them).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As an aside, are you standing or voting in the team election, or both?
+</I>
+Well when I step into the polling booth (What mechanism are we going to
+use for voting anyway?). I'm certainly not considering anyone for the
+Team Lead position except you :)
+
+hm... That certainly does break with my tradition of never telling *who
+I intend to vote for*. Doesn't it?
+
+But due to ambiguities contained in the logs, I'm not clear as to
+whether we can have two council reps from Marcom or not. So until I'm
+clear on that point, I've offered to throw my hat in only for the deputy
+post at this time.
+
+Regardless, and to be considerate of others who would like to also
+participate in a more official manner, I would only offer to serve in
+one or the other position.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
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+<PRE>Le 06/03/2012 04:44, Bradley D. Thornton a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 02/24/2012 08:54 AM, Bradley D. Thornton wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I haven't seen that our forum on LQ has been created yet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any update on this yet?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Trish,
+</I>
+Hi guys
+
+I'm still waiting for names for this forums
+
+Cheers
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I posed the question above over a week ago, and haven't heard anything
+</I>&gt;<i> back on this yet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you could please raise this issue at the next council meeting you
+</I>&gt;<i> attend so we have an idea as to when we'll be getting our own forum at
+</I>&gt;<i> LQ that would be great!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm anxious to get this going, and there is interest as well as real
+</I>&gt;<i> marketing potential just by virtue of having our own forum there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've also re-worked one of my Mageia reviews just so I can publish it at
+</I>&gt;<i> LQ and DistroWatch coinciding with the debut of this forum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll wait until hearing back from you, and you may also mention at the
+</I>&gt;<i> next meeting that I can liaise w/Jeremy directly if need be, to help
+</I>&gt;<i> getting things rolling along.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kindest regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>_______________________________________________
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+Hi all,
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; people can have the same position as well:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am interested on getting clarification on this item, as it relates
+</I>&gt;<i> to *council representatives*.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If someone can get back and post once the matter of whether there can
+</I>&gt;<i> be two, or only one council rep, it would be most appreciated.
+</I>
+Query sent to council list.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+- -35.67896, 142.66637
+Tue Mar 6 19:35:17 EST 2012
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+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested
+</I>
+I'm afraid we ran out of time for this at the meeting, but don't
+despair!
+
+I do now know who the people are to approach; please could you leave it
+with me, and I'll follow up. Everyone's pretty busy with the
+pre-release things, so I don't want to be annoying - we'll get there,
+but we might need to be a bit patient.
+
+I think it might be best to leave it off the discuss list for now, for
+that reason - what do you think?
+
+Cheers!
+
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+
+Wobo helped out with this link:
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org</A>
+
+So, we have one rep on the council, and we decide who that will be -
+normally it's the team lead, but it can be anyone. That's one vote on
+council for each team. Anyone can attend a council meeting - we just
+get one vote, and our nominated representative does the voting.
+
+The idea of lead/deputy is that we have coverage even if the lead
+person has to dip out temporarily - so I think it's good if we can have
+2 people, because in the last 3 months I've been noticeably absent due
+to moving country. Hopefully that's going to improve from now on, but
+it's still good to have 2 people covering things.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wobo helped out with this link:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, we have one rep on the council, and we decide who that will be -
+</I>&gt;<i> normally it's the team lead, but it can be anyone. That's one vote on
+</I>&gt;<i> council for each team. Anyone can attend a council meeting - we just
+</I>&gt;<i> get one vote, and our nominated representative does the voting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The idea of lead/deputy is that we have coverage even if the lead
+</I>&gt;<i> person has to dip out temporarily - so I think it's good if we can have
+</I>&gt;<i> 2 people, because in the last 3 months I've been noticeably absent due
+</I>&gt;<i> to moving country. Hopefully that's going to improve from now on, but
+</I>&gt;<i> it's still good to have 2 people covering things.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>Oh ok one person for each position unless wobo is wrong.
+
+I agree it's good to have a leader and a deputy leader to help each
+other, but having two council representatives could be quite good to
+have at times as well really.
+
+In fact I was thinking about it earlier how at least in my experience
+group things tend to have or may have two people for non leading positions.
+
+Also at times a council representative can't easily attend a council
+meeting, because of for example the time they are at in their time zone,
+or can't attend it at all, because of being busy with something else. In
+these kind of situations having two council representatives for a team
+could be very useful. Even if the other representative is just a
+substitute for when the main representative is not at the meeting. Or
+even if the main representative does most of the representing in a
+council meeting with the other as well.
+
+As for the council mailing list I assume both representatives should be
+sending emails to it if their are two.
+
+Anyway it seems we will be voting for only one council representative
+and so in that case my vote is for Trish or myself.
+
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+&gt;<i> Hi Seb,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm afraid we ran out of time for this at the meeting, but don't
+</I>&gt;<i> despair!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I do now know who the people are to approach; please could you leave it
+</I>&gt;<i> with me, and I'll follow up. Everyone's pretty busy with the
+</I>&gt;<i> pre-release things, so I don't want to be annoying - we'll get there,
+</I>&gt;<i> but we might need to be a bit patient.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it might be best to leave it off the discuss list for now, for
+</I>&gt;<i> that reason - what do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>Misc gave me a good reply on that mailing list explaining things,
+however this is still something that I think should get properly sorted
+out in the future sometime this year ideally before Mageia 2!
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+<PRE>Hi Seb,
+
+&gt;<i> Oh ok one person for each position unless wobo is wrong.
+</I>
+You checked the link, yes? I think he's right. And given that marcom is
+still a very small team, I think we can get away with just 2 - team
+lead and deputy.
+
+&gt;<i> I agree it's good to have a leader and a deputy leader to help each
+</I>&gt;<i> other, but having two council representatives could be quite good to
+</I>&gt;<i> have at times as well really.
+</I>
+Maybe when we're bigger, but once all teams have reps on council, it
+will still be quite a large council. The idea is, as I see it, that if
+the team lead isn't available, the deputy attends in their place - for
+instance, if TeaAge isn't going to be available as artwork team lead,
+he pings Max and Max attends as artwork rep (which is what's happening
+now because TeaAge is busy).
+
+&gt;<i> In fact I was thinking about it earlier how at least in my experience
+</I>&gt;<i> group things tend to have or may have two people for non leading
+</I>&gt;<i> positions.
+</I>
+Maybe if marcom gets to be a big team 8-)...
+
+&gt;<i> As for the council mailing list I assume both representatives should
+</I>&gt;<i> be sending emails to it if their are two.
+</I>
+Just one - team lead if they're available, deputy if they aren't. That
+keeps it manageable.
+
+&gt;<i> Anyway it seems we will be voting for only one council representative
+</I>&gt;<i> and so in that case my vote is for Trish or myself.
+</I>
+You can't vote for yourself! If you're the only candidate, you would be
+elected unopposed, but otherwise, you have to vote for someone else or
+you have to abstain.
+
+There's plenty of work to do, so we're all needed - whether we get an
+official role or not, everyone who contributes is important.
+
+And sometimes our ideas get up and sometimes they don't (or not yet) -
+this is a community, so there's always got to be a bit of give and
+take.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Wed Mar 7 06:42:09 EST 2012
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+
+-------- Original Message --------
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:23:53 +0000
+From: Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+
+
+
+On 06/03/12 08:38, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Seb,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm afraid we ran out of time for this at the meeting, but don't
+</I>&gt;<i> despair!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I do now know who the people are to approach; please could you leave it
+</I>&gt;<i> with me, and I'll follow up. Everyone's pretty busy with the
+</I>&gt;<i> pre-release things, so I don't want to be annoying - we'll get there,
+</I>&gt;<i> but we might need to be a bit patient.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it might be best to leave it off the discuss list for now, for
+</I>&gt;<i> that reason - what do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>Misc gave me a good reply on that mailing list explaining things,
+however this is still something that I think should get properly sorted
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+<PRE>Hi Seb,
+
+&gt;<i> Sending this again, because there was a problem trying to send before:
+</I>
+I did see this, answering below.
+
+&gt;<i> Misc gave me a good reply on that mailing list explaining things,
+</I>&gt;<i> however this is still something that I think should get properly
+</I>&gt;<i> sorted out in the future sometime this year ideally before Mageia 2!
+</I>
+Yes, it would be nice - we'll try for it, and see how we get on.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+<PRE>On 06/03/12 19:49, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Seb,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oh ok one person for each position unless wobo is wrong.
+</I>&gt;<i> You checked the link, yes? I think he's right. And given that marcom is
+</I>&gt;<i> still a very small team, I think we can get away with just 2 - team
+</I>&gt;<i> lead and deputy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I agree it's good to have a leader and a deputy leader to help each
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other, but having two council representatives could be quite good to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have at times as well really.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe when we're bigger, but once all teams have reps on council, it
+</I>&gt;<i> will still be quite a large council. The idea is, as I see it, that if
+</I>&gt;<i> the team lead isn't available, the deputy attends in their place - for
+</I>&gt;<i> instance, if TeaAge isn't going to be available as artwork team lead,
+</I>&gt;<i> he pings Max and Max attends as artwork rep (which is what's happening
+</I>&gt;<i> now because TeaAge is busy).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In fact I was thinking about it earlier how at least in my experience
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> group things tend to have or may have two people for non leading
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> positions.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe if marcom gets to be a big team 8-)...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As for the council mailing list I assume both representatives should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be sending emails to it if their are two.
+</I>&gt;<i> Just one - team lead if they're available, deputy if they aren't. That
+</I>&gt;<i> keeps it manageable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anyway it seems we will be voting for only one council representative
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and so in that case my vote is for Trish or myself.
+</I>&gt;<i> You can't vote for yourself! If you're the only candidate, you would be
+</I>&gt;<i> elected unopposed, but otherwise, you have to vote for someone else or
+</I>&gt;<i> you have to abstain.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's plenty of work to do, so we're all needed - whether we get an
+</I>&gt;<i> official role or not, everyone who contributes is important.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And sometimes our ideas get up and sometimes they don't (or not yet) -
+</I>&gt;<i> this is a community, so there's always got to be a bit of give and
+</I>&gt;<i> take.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>That was a very good reply I think.
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+<PRE>Thanks Seb - but do trim your replies please!
+
+&gt;<i> On 06/03/12 19:49, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi Seb,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Oh ok one person for each position unless wobo is wrong.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You checked the link, yes? I think he's right. And given that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; marcom is still a very small team, I think we can get away with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; just 2 - team lead and deputy.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I agree it's good to have a leader and a deputy leader to help each
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; other, but having two council representatives could be quite good
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to have at times as well really.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Maybe when we're bigger, but once all teams have reps on council, it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; will still be quite a large council. The idea is, as I see it, that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if the team lead isn't available, the deputy attends in their place
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - for instance, if TeaAge isn't going to be available as artwork
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; team lead, he pings Max and Max attends as artwork rep (which is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; what's happening now because TeaAge is busy).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; In fact I was thinking about it earlier how at least in my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; experience group things tend to have or may have two people for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; non leading positions.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Maybe if marcom gets to be a big team 8-)...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As for the council mailing list I assume both representatives
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; should be sending emails to it if their are two.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Just one - team lead if they're available, deputy if they aren't.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That keeps it manageable.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Anyway it seems we will be voting for only one council
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; representative and so in that case my vote is for Trish or myself.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You can't vote for yourself! If you're the only candidate, you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; would be elected unopposed, but otherwise, you have to vote for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; someone else or you have to abstain.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There's plenty of work to do, so we're all needed - whether we get
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; an official role or not, everyone who contributes is important.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And sometimes our ideas get up and sometimes they don't (or not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; yet) - this is a community, so there's always got to be a bit of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; give and take.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> That was a very good reply I think.
+</I>
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+Is there any news about the installation splash screens? I've being a
+little lost (work issues) and I could've missed something. I have one more
+meeting today and I can work a few hours them when I come back (if needed).
+
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+<PRE>Hi guys,
+
+It's me, the guy from Costa Rica again. Didn't work today and I finally
+made five splash screens for Mageia 2 (texts included). Hope you like them.
+I'll love to see some of my work on Mageia 2. I'm mailing them to the
+artwork team too. Let me know what you think.
+
+Mageia 1 splash screen: <A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</A>
+Mageia 2 splash screen proposal: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</A>
+
+Splash screen #1: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</A>
+Splash screen #2: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</A>
+Splash screen #3: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</A>
+Splash screen #4: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</A>
+Splash screen #5: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</A>
+
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+On 03/08/2012 08:26 PM, Esteban Mora wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's me, the guy from Costa Rica again. Didn't work today and I finally
+</I>&gt;<i> made five splash screens for Mageia 2 (texts included). Hope you like them.
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll love to see some of my work on Mageia 2. I'm mailing them to the
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork team too. Let me know what you think.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1 splash screen: <A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2 splash screen proposal: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #1: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #2: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #3: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #4: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #5: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</A>
+</I>
+Well these all look really good. The focus on multimedia and ease of
+use, coupled with the welcome to the installer for choosing Mageia is a
+really nice touch.
+
+What tools did you use for developing the artwork?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>Hi Esteban!
+
+&gt;<i> It's me, the guy from Costa Rica again. Didn't work today and I
+</I>&gt;<i> finally made five splash screens for Mageia 2 (texts included). Hope
+</I>&gt;<i> you like them. I'll love to see some of my work on Mageia 2. I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing them to the artwork team too. Let me know what you think.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1 splash screen: <A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2 splash screen proposal:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #1: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #2: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #3: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #4: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #5: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</A>
+</I>
+
+These are great. The texts are great. I'd be happy to go with them -
+what does everyone else think?
+
+(Just to clarify - these are for the installation, yes?)
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE>2012/3/9 Esteban Mora &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">esteban1972 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #1: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #2: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #3: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #4: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Splash screen #5: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Wow thanks for your job Esteban, those are great!
+
+They look really profesionnal, and it is great that a slide promotes
+the fact that the project is community based and that contributors can
+join us.
+
+Cheers,
+R&#233;mi / Akien
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+<PRE>Il 09/03/2012 07:34, Patricia Fraser ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> Hi Esteban!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's me, the guy from Costa Rica again. Didn't work today and I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> finally made five splash screens for Mageia 2 (texts included). Hope
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you like them. I'll love to see some of my work on Mageia 2. I'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mailing them to the artwork team too. Let me know what you think.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 1 splash screen: <A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 2 splash screen proposal:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Splash screen #1: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Splash screen #2: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Splash screen #3: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Splash screen #4: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Splash screen #5: <A HREF="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> These are great. The texts are great. I'd be happy to go with them -
+</I>&gt;<i> what does everyone else think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Just to clarify - these are for the installation, yes?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+i think they are great, for me they can be included surely in mageia 2.
+only one proposal, what about removing graphics banner (powerful graphic
+tools are used by a exiguous number of users) and replace it with a
+banner dedicated to Mageia Control Center (one of the best centralised
+tool around in linux world)?
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>Hello from Costa Rica,
+
+As requested, I've added one more splash screen about the control center. I
+updated the screens to fit in 457x308. And also I removed the dots so you
+can arrange them in any order. You can download them here:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06.png</A>
+
+My idea when making the screens was to take the user by the hand and show
+him or her the great options that Mageia has to offer: a community that he
+or she can join, the idea of freedom of choice and the availability of
+applications for everything needed (drawing, office suites, Internet, etc).
+Thru the screens I try to convince the user that Mageia is the best choice.
+The design I use is based on the Mageia 1 interface, and give them some
+modern look and feel. To create them I used a little bit of Gimp and mostly
+Inkscape.
+
+Just to clarify some things, I didn't know that you already have some
+splash screens, I was finishing one social network monitoring project and
+can't follow all the threads. If you want to use them I'll will be glad and
+honored.
+
+--
+Esteban Mora
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+Here you have a new set of splash screens for the installation process. I
+mixed my design with Gaula's. I also adapted some of my original texts
+following the suggestions that I read on the messages. Hope you like them.
+
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01-2.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02-2.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03-2.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04-2.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05-2.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06-2.png</A>
+
+
+--
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+<PRE>OK, time is of the essence, but here is where we stand:
+We will be using Guala's images for the installer for Mga2. There are
+several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that
+those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams.
+Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the hard work that you put in, and
+certainly the initiative that you showed. But Mageia is a community
+distribution, and that means that it is a team effort. A community is not
+merely a collection of individuals, but a group of people who work
+together. Esteban, you are clearly a very talented person and we would be
+more than happy if you were to join the artwork team and continue to
+contribute. I for one look forward to working with you in the future, but
+it needs to be done as part of a team. We'll probably hold on to those
+images of yours and use them (or a slight variation) for Mga3.
+Trish told me that she would put together some text for Guala's images soon
+(within a day).
+About whether the installer software will support svg images and multiple
+languages... That is a very good idea, but I think it may have simply come
+too late. Maybe next time? That will certainly require a lot of
+coordination with the i18n team as well as packagers.
+Finally a question: who knows what needs to be done so that the final 10
+PNGs will get packaged and ready to go for Beta 2?
+
+These are the images we will be using:
+<A HREF="http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png</A>
+<A HREF="http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png</A>
+Keep in mind that the text there is temporary and at the end we will
+probably only use 5 of them (each one twice with different text).
+Have a good evening (or whatever).
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+
+Alfter being treated twice as a guy who can't work in a community I have no
+other choice but to leave the community. But let me explain something
+before I remove my subscriptions to the lists. I joined the Mageia
+Marketing list trying to give back something to the distribution. My
+schedule constraints, due to my daily job and geographic location, makes it
+almost impossible to join the chats. My only reference is what I receive
+from the mail messages of the list, when I can read them. One day I noticed
+that Mageia needed better splash screens and I saw an opportunity to help.
+I draw a couple of screens and suggest some texts. The guys from Marketing
+ask me to join then the Artwork list as well. I rushed to create a set of
+screens and mail them to both lists before the deadline. Then I read that
+my screens didn't fit something (nobody has yet explained me what they
+didn't fit) and I rushed again to create a new set of screens trying to fix
+what i guess was wrong with the first set.
+
+Maybe you're right and I'm not a community material. Maybe I joined without
+knowing how a community distribution work. Or maybe what I needed was a
+little introduction to how a community distribution works and what the
+rules are. But, after reading a couple of &quot;not so nice&quot; messages regarding
+my contribution to Mageia I feel that this is a community I don't want to
+belong.
+
+Good luck with Mageia.
+
+Esteban
+
+
+
+
+
+2012/3/11 Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> OK, time is of the essence, but here is where we stand:
+</I>&gt;<i> We will be using Guala's images for the installer for Mga2. There are
+</I>&gt;<i> several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that
+</I>&gt;<i> those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams.
+</I>&gt;<i> Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the hard work that you put in, and
+</I>&gt;<i> certainly the initiative that you showed. But Mageia is a community
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution, and that means that it is a team effort. A community is not
+</I>&gt;<i> merely a collection of individuals, but a group of people who work
+</I>&gt;<i> together. Esteban, you are clearly a very talented person and we would be
+</I>&gt;<i> more than happy if you were to join the artwork team and continue to
+</I>&gt;<i> contribute. I for one look forward to working with you in the future, but
+</I>&gt;<i> it needs to be done as part of a team. We'll probably hold on to those
+</I>&gt;<i> images of yours and use them (or a slight variation) for Mga3.
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish told me that she would put together some text for Guala's images
+</I>&gt;<i> soon (within a day).
+</I>&gt;<i> About whether the installer software will support svg images and multiple
+</I>&gt;<i> languages... That is a very good idea, but I think it may have simply come
+</I>&gt;<i> too late. Maybe next time? That will certainly require a lot of
+</I>&gt;<i> coordination with the i18n team as well as packagers.
+</I>&gt;<i> Finally a question: who knows what needs to be done so that the final 10
+</I>&gt;<i> PNGs will get packaged and ready to go for Beta 2?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> These are the images we will be using:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Keep in mind that the text there is temporary and at the end we will
+</I>&gt;<i> probably only use 5 of them (each one twice with different text).
+</I>&gt;<i> Have a good evening (or whatever).
+</I>&gt;<i> Max
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+--
+Esteban Mora
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+On 03/11/2012 10:33 PM, Esteban Mora wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Alfter being treated twice as a guy who can't work in a community I have no
+</I>&gt;<i> other choice but to leave the community.
+</I>
+Let me be the first to offer condolences. It especially bothers me since
+this isn't the first time we've lost a valuable member in disgust.
+
+I'm quite aware of the quality of your work and the effort you put
+forward to the community.
+
+Although I don't know the particulars of what it was that came to pass
+and led to your feelings on this matter, your description of the events,
+if substantiated, is rather appalling.
+
+It is true, in a community, that there are personalities and ego in
+every aspect of its being, perhaps more so in the creative areas.
+
+I don't personally have a care one way or the other between two quality
+products from a functional perspective. I don't have to because my focus
+is primarily on the operational aspects of the distro - but a good
+picture sells that.
+
+It is for that reason that I am astonished we would choose such an
+inferior alternative to the product you produced. No amount of so-called
+community consciousness can reasonably account for that, but I will
+cover those issues separately on the list now that you have unsubscribed.
+
+Thank you for your contributions and please don't come away thinking
+anything less of how Mageia is as a quality distro.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
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+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
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+On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 23:16, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that
+</I>&gt;<i> those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams.
+</I>
+What are the other reasons? Because this one is rather weak:
+ - it's not that it's a team effort that makes something good or a fit.
+ - it's not because it's a collaborative project that it makes any
+fully individual and subjective participation void or misfit.
+
+&gt;<i> Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the hard work that you put in, and
+</I>&gt;<i> certainly the initiative that you showed. But Mageia is a community
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution, and that means that it is a team effort. A community is not
+</I>&gt;<i> merely a collection of individuals, but a group of people who work together.
+</I>
+Which doesn't prevent anyone to propose a full, finished set of
+artefacts for a given task (with some choices already made), that may
+be improved through collaboration.
+
+&gt;<i> About whether the installer software will support svg images and multiple
+</I>&gt;<i> languages... That is a very good idea, but I think it may have simply come
+</I>&gt;<i> too late. Maybe next time? That will certainly require a lot of coordination
+</I>&gt;<i> with the i18n team as well as packagers.
+</I>
+Define what you need/want + submit it to the installer devs/packagers on -dev.
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi folks,
+
+I've taken Esteban's texts (thanks Esteban!), edited and added a bit;
+if everyone's happy with these, just pick what we need and go for it:
+
+----
+Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: it's a community of users,
+developers and advocates from all around the world. Join us!
+
+Free software means freedom to choose. Gear up your desktop with the
+elegant KDE, the revolutionary Gnome or the lightweight LXDE.
+
+Mageia's Control Center gives you easy, accessible control over your
+computer - hardware, software and all kinds of setup, all in one place.
+
+For great 2D or 3D graphics, Mageia's standard packages help you create
+raster or vector graphics or 3D animations - and then there's video
+editing...
+
+Write great documents, analyse your data and create great business
+presentations with the office suite LibreOffice.
+
+Browse the web, check your email, chat with your friends; Mageia
+includes all the applications you need.
+
+Code, compile, debug and package - Mageia puts all the development
+applications and tools at your fingertips.
+-----
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Mon Mar 12 21:35:25 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+hermes up 3 hour(s), 1 min.
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Esteban,
+
+I'm really sorry you're feeling excluded, especially after all your
+hard work. Your splash screens are great, and it would be grand if we
+could use them in future - and it would be even greater if you could
+bring yourself to stay part of the marketing and/or artwork teams,
+although I understand if you don't want to.
+
+I hope we'll keep hearing from you, and that you'll consider keeping on
+working with us.
+
+Thanks once again for your hard work!
+
+Cheers,
+
+Patricia.
+
+
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Alfter being treated twice as a guy who can't work in a community I
+</I>&gt;<i> have no other choice but to leave the community. But let me explain
+</I>&gt;<i> something before I remove my subscriptions to the lists. I joined the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia Marketing list trying to give back something to the
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution. My schedule constraints, due to my daily job and
+</I>&gt;<i> geographic location, makes it almost impossible to join the chats. My
+</I>&gt;<i> only reference is what I receive from the mail messages of the list,
+</I>&gt;<i> when I can read them. One day I noticed that Mageia needed better
+</I>&gt;<i> splash screens and I saw an opportunity to help. I draw a couple of
+</I>&gt;<i> screens and suggest some texts. The guys from Marketing ask me to
+</I>&gt;<i> join then the Artwork list as well. I rushed to create a set of
+</I>&gt;<i> screens and mail them to both lists before the deadline. Then I read
+</I>&gt;<i> that my screens didn't fit something (nobody has yet explained me
+</I>&gt;<i> what they didn't fit) and I rushed again to create a new set of
+</I>&gt;<i> screens trying to fix what i guess was wrong with the first set.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe you're right and I'm not a community material. Maybe I joined
+</I>&gt;<i> without knowing how a community distribution work. Or maybe what I
+</I>&gt;<i> needed was a little introduction to how a community distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> works and what the rules are. But, after reading a couple of &quot;not so
+</I>&gt;<i> nice&quot; messages regarding my contribution to Mageia I feel that this
+</I>&gt;<i> is a community I don't want to belong.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good luck with Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Esteban
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/3/11 Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; OK, time is of the essence, but here is where we stand:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We will be using Guala's images for the installer for Mga2. There
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; are several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the fact that those images were a group effort by the entire
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; artwork and marcom teams. Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hard work that you put in, and certainly the initiative that you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; showed. But Mageia is a community distribution, and that means that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it is a team effort. A community is not merely a collection of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; individuals, but a group of people who work together. Esteban, you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; are clearly a very talented person and we would be more than happy
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if you were to join the artwork team and continue to contribute. I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for one look forward to working with you in the future, but it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; needs to be done as part of a team. We'll probably hold on to those
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; images of yours and use them (or a slight variation) for Mga3.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Trish told me that she would put together some text for Guala's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; images soon (within a day). About whether the installer software
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; will support svg images and multiple languages... That is a very
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; good idea, but I think it may have simply come too late. Maybe next
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; time? That will certainly require a lot of coordination with the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i18n team as well as packagers. Finally a question: who knows what
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; needs to be done so that the final 10 PNGs will get packaged and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ready to go for Beta 2?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; These are the images we will be using:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png">http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Keep in mind that the text there is temporary and at the end we will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; probably only use 5 of them (each one twice with different text).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Have a good evening (or whatever).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Max
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Mon Mar 12 21:38:08 EST 2012
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+and deputy team lead.
+
+Candidates are:
+
+Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+
+Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+
+Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+
+Please feel free to ask any candidate anything relating to the election
+or the positions they're standing for.
+
+I'd like to throw voting open as at 11:00 UTC 12 May 2012 - in about
+10 minutes from now - and close voting in 24 hours' time, at 11:00 UTC
+13 May 2012.
+
+Please register your vote on the mailing list!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+On 03/11/2012 03:16 PM, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+&gt;<i> OK, time is of the essence, but here is where we stand:
+</I>&gt;<i> We will be using Guala's images for the installer for Mga2. There are
+</I>&gt;<i> several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that
+</I>&gt;<i> those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams.
+</I>
+There's nothing wrong with the artwork itself - it's also really nice,
+but the copy is non-existent and it's to be completed in a day
+
+Forget the part about counting all the thumbs up I counted over here for
+the other images, and also that I didn't see anything over here contrary
+to Esteban's images. The copy on the images you decided upon is crap,
+and honestly, the bulleted layout makes it look like a cheap powerpoint
+presentation.
+
+I know you're saying that we'll put text together in the next day, but
+we might as well just use the majority of the text from Esteban's
+artwork on the other images, IMO. it flows.
+
+As experience shows, the user likes to have a measure of progress too,
+during the process of installation. I recommend that be added to the
+artwork you chose Max.
+
+Not only that, but if I remember correctly from school, the development
+of a marketing image is supposed to be in tandem with, and complimentary
+to, the verbiage of the message.
+
+What we seem to be doing here is developing artwork and then trying to
+fashion a message to it.
+
+So now we're faced with deciding upon whether &quot;simmon say&quot; should be
+&quot;Simon says&quot; or &quot;Gene Simmons&quot;, lol.
+
+Seriously though, I'll just offer up below the existing text. Whatever
+parts of it are used, if any, Should be flowed onto the images and
+blended accordingly - not plopped on top like the text in a powerpoint file.
+
+I'll be available on and off over the next day so I don't have a problem
+whittling down the copy, but I would be embarrassed to see something so
+staccato in the actual end product.
+
+Let's look at the copy Esteban provided, just as a starting point, since
+we have absolutely zero to consider from the selected candidate.
+
+&lt;snip&gt;
+Mageia is a new Linux distribution made by a community of users,
+developers and advocates from all around the world.
+
+You're welcome to be part of Mageia.
+Start by Joining our community!
+
+Free software means freedom to choose.
+Gear up your dektop with the elegant KDE, the revolutionary Gnome, or
+the lightweight LXDE. {include the logos for those projects too in the
+image}
+
+With Mageia Control Center you can easily configure your hardware, add
+new software or setup your computer in just a few minutes. {note the
+'toolset' imagery in the candidate not selected}
+
+If drawing is part of your everyday job, you can create raster or vector
+graphics, or even 3D animations with the software included in Mageia.
+
+Write your documents, analyse your data and create great business
+presentations with the office suie LibreOffice. {note the inclusion of
+LibreOffice iconics in the graphic from the candidate not selected}
+
+Browse the web, check your email, or chat with your friends; Mageia
+includes all the applications that you need to explore what the Internet
+ahs to offer. {note the inclusion of FF and Chromium iconics in the
+graphic from the candidate not selected}
+&lt;/snip&gt;
+
+
+For example, I might suggest as a replacement for a couple of the pages
+above:
+
+Write your documents, analyse your data and create great business
+presentations with the office suie LibreOffice.
+
+
+to...
+
+
+Produce stunning documents, analyze corporate data, and deliver
+professional business presentations with the KOffice and LibreOffice
+suites included with every installation.
+
+
+And perhaps...
+
+
+Mageia is a new kind of Linux distribution made by a worldwide community
+of users, developers and advocates from every walk of life.
+
+
+to...
+
+
+We would love to have you be part of Mageia too.
+Won't you Join our community? {or maybe, &quot;Come Join our Community!&quot;}
+
+
+Well that's all I have at the moment, especially since I don't know
+which way we're going to go with all of this, but irrespective of how
+you intended to sound Max, the message that Esteban received was more
+than harsh, and it unfortunately did drive him from the project.
+
+I hope that helps :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
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+On 03/12/2012 03:19 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 23:16, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What are the other reasons? Because this one is rather weak:
+</I>&gt;<i> - it's not that it's a team effort that makes something good or a fit.
+</I>&gt;<i> - it's not because it's a collaborative project that it makes any
+</I>&gt;<i> fully individual and subjective participation void or misfit.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the hard work that you put in, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> certainly the initiative that you showed. But Mageia is a community
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distribution, and that means that it is a team effort. A community is not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> merely a collection of individuals, but a group of people who work together.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which doesn't prevent anyone to propose a full, finished set of
+</I>&gt;<i> artefacts for a given task (with some choices already made), that may
+</I>&gt;<i> be improved through collaboration.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
++1 Romain :)
+
+Here in California, we call what Max did to Esteban as, &quot;Being a Dik&quot;.
+
+I hope that helps!
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+On 03/12/2012 03:49 AM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>
+Hi Trish,
+
+I didn't want to put my foot forward for the team lead post, merely the
+deputy team lead. So I'm not sure exactly how to proceed, except to say
+my vote for the Team Lead goes to you, and according to the rules you
+established for the polling, candidates are precluded from voting for
+themselves.
+
+So for my part, that's:
+
++1 Trish for Team Lead.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+On 03/12/2012 03:37 AM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've taken Esteban's texts (thanks Esteban!), edited and added a bit;
+</I>&gt;<i> if everyone's happy with these, just pick what we need and go for it:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: it's a community of users,
+</I>&gt;<i> developers and advocates from all around the world. Join us!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Free software means freedom to choose. Gear up your desktop with the
+</I>&gt;<i> elegant KDE, the revolutionary Gnome or the lightweight LXDE.
+</I>
+I just have a problem with the word *elegant* there before KDE. To me it
+has a 'contrived' feeling, like putting a square peg in a round hole.
+Perhaps some other adjective?
+
+I also offered up a variant of this copy in my earlier post too. Give a
+gander there and see if there's anything you might want to merge in or
+juxtapose within.
+
+I think we were both taken aback a little at the &quot;If drawing is part of
+your everyday job...&quot; copy ;)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia's Control Center gives you easy, accessible control over your
+</I>&gt;<i> computer - hardware, software and all kinds of setup, all in one place.
+</I>
+*all kinds of setup* - Either this doesn't seem grammatically correct or
+it's just too colloquial.
+
+'and all manner of preferred configuration[s], all in one [easy to
+operate] place' ???
+
+
+*Control* is used twice in the same sentance, maybe &quot;...configuration of
+your computer...&quot; ???
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For great 2D or 3D graphics, Mageia's standard packages help you create
+</I>&gt;<i> raster or vector graphics or 3D animations - and then there's video
+</I>&gt;<i> editing...
+</I>
+Daddy like ;) If anything, maybe consider s/great/outstanding ???
+
+I like BIG adjectives LOL!
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Write great documents, analyse your data and create great business
+</I>&gt;<i> presentations with the office suite LibreOffice.
+</I>
+*Great* is used twice in the same sentence. Check out the similar blurb
+I offered up in the previous post for possible variations of this verbiage.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Browse the web, check your email, chat with your friends; Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> includes all the applications you need.
+</I>
+hm... maybe something like, &quot;...includes all of your favorite social
+applications, right at your fingertips!&quot;, or &quot;...includes all the social
+applications...&quot; or &quot;...includes all the communications applications...&quot;
+
+And I dunno, but *need*.... hm... desire, want, are used to, demand, or
+maybe...
+
+&quot;...includes all of the [social|communications] applications you're
+already familiar with&quot;.
+
+*need* doesn't quite have the oomph I want to feel there.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Code, compile, debug and package - Mageia puts all the development
+</I>&gt;<i> applications and tools at your fingertips.
+</I>
+Fantastic :) or mabye something like &quot;...puts an entire universe of
+development...&quot;, or, &quot;...a complete universe of...&quot;, etc.
+
+Anyway, I hope that helps!
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
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+<PRE>Alright, you want to know more reasons? I'll give you more reasons.
+See, both teams heard about this bug several weeks ago, and that should
+have been sufficient time to come up with a good solution and put it
+together in time for the artwork freeze. But that's provided that everybody
+actually does some work.
+At the time I was going through finals and couldn't really help out (and
+then last week I was sick for several days and totally out of commission),
+but I saw this as something very important and sacrificed a lot of my time
+to try and pull this together. In fact, I sacrificed too much of my time
+and my grades suffered. But that was my choice to make and I alone have to
+face the consequences.
+Now, in the past when there were things that needed doing and deadlines
+looming the same thing happened, one person did most or all of the work and
+saved the collective asses of his or her teammates.
+I was sincerely hoping that we could prevent that from happening again, and
+maybe, maybe really work together this time and share the workload. And it
+appeared to be working.
+And then Esteban showed up with a magical external solution which was very
+good, but very bad for the teams.
+
+I did not want the responsibility of artwork team leader, but I had it
+thrust upon me due to various circumstances that were beyond my control.
+And rather than pass the buck I picked up the gauntlet and faced the
+challenge to the best of my abilities and time.
+I tried to do what I thought would be best for Mageia in general, and the
+artwork team in particular in the long run. If that makes me a dick, fine.
+I didn't set out to be a dick and had only the best intentions. I still
+think that what I did is better for Mageia, and given the opportunity I
+would do it again, but it wouldn't be any easier.
+I'm very sorry that Esteban feels this way, that was entirely not my
+intention. In fact, I was up for over an hour last night (actually very
+early this morning) agonizing over that email, trying my best *not *to
+sound like a dick. I guess I failed there.
+
+Now, I am not going to resign in a huff and storm off, because that would
+be even worse. I don't know what I will do, but I'm open to suggestions.
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+<PRE>I vote for Trish for team leader.
+
+
+________________________________
+ From: Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:49 PM
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
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+Hi all,
+
+We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+and deputy team lead.
+
+Candidates are:
+
+Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+
+Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+
+Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+
+Please feel free to ask any candidate anything relating to the election
+or the positions they're standing for.
+
+I'd like to throw voting open as at 11:00 UTC 12 May 2012 - in about
+10 minutes from now - and close voting in 24 hours' time, at 11:00 UTC
+13 May 2012.
+
+Please register your vote on the mailing list!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE>On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 14:34, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Alright, you want to know more reasons? I'll give you more reasons.
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> I was sincerely hoping that we could prevent that from happening again, and
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe, maybe really work together this time and share the workload. And it
+</I>&gt;<i> appeared to be working.
+</I>
+Granted.
+
+&gt;<i> And then Esteban showed up with a magical external solution which was very
+</I>&gt;<i> good,
+</I>
+That's one thing.
+
+&gt;<i> but very bad for the teams.
+</I>
+That's another one. Be careful on this very bit.
+
+It's not because you trash (would it be at this extent) a team's work,
+in favor of an other one, that it is _bad_ for the team. True, it
+hurts, for several reasons:
+ - work accomplished may look worse than the chosen solution,
+ - even worse, work accomplished may look better than the chosen solution,
+ - time and sweat spent _seem_ discarded and useless.
+
+But that may not necessarily be bad. If you recognize that there is a
+gain in swapping solutions. It's better to acknowledge that, take it
+and learn from it. And keep the good bits from the other proposals
+that didn't make it this time. Yes, it means trashing some hard work,
+some even good work, no question about it, but that's the cost to
+trying, prototyping and choosing the best idea/concept/artefact for
+what it is, rather than for who did it. That makes the team learning,
+improving and being more demanding. That is not bad. But yes it hurts.
+
+&gt;<i> I guess I failed there.
+</I>
+You didn't explain your decision enough; and the way you put things
+seems to have been interpreted as dismissive (related to the &quot;acting
+as&quot; bit). Here you explicited the rationale and explained that you did
+not meant to be harsh, and that's better. And there's the timing point
+too. Not everyone is expected to agree (as the team lead, you're here
+to cut decisions too), but at least, things are more clear and precise
+now. Thanks.
+
+So what to do next? If you think there's extra time to take (yes,
+artwork freeze was past Friday), maybe try to balance both solutions
+again. If not, go ahead with your decision, that's fine too.
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+On 03/12/2012 06:34 AM, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> And then Esteban showed up with a magical external solution which was very
+</I>&gt;<i> good, but very bad for the teams.
+</I>
+And he paid for that with what must have seemed to him like, &quot;The brush
+off&quot;.
+
+I think the thing that seemed to be the most harmful was what still
+seems to be the decision of one person (you) in selecting the product
+pack of images.
+
+For a minute there I was certain that I had missed some mails expressing
+the preference of a different set of images over that of Esteban's, but
+I didn't. And the Marcom Team didn't actually choose the other graphics
+over that of Esteban's, as you seemingly inferred in your last post
+(Maybe that did happen on the artwork team list, but if it didn't happen
+on this list then it wasn't the MarCom Team).
+
+
+&gt;<i> I tried to do what I thought would be best for Mageia in general, and the
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork team in particular in the long run. If that makes me a dick, fine.
+</I>&gt;<i> I didn't set out to be a dick and had only the best intentions. I still
+</I>&gt;<i> think that what I did is better for Mageia, and given the opportunity I
+</I>&gt;<i> would do it again, but it wouldn't be any easier.
+</I>
+It was a mistake in judgment perhaps, but certainly not a murder or
+armed robbery LOL! Should you feel bad? Well, maybe you will consider
+sending Esteban a private email explaining this - that the promising
+graphics he seemed to just *whip up* might crush the morale of a team
+that has been performing well below what you expected, and therefore,
+you decided to throw him under the bus for their sake (Maybe you should
+tell them how you feel too).
+
+What you're saying isn't actually evil Max. It was a painful business
+decision to let the artwork team demonstrate and validate their worth,
+and just as they were coming through, as you indicated, someone popped
+up out of the blue (almost), and made small work of it.
+
+And yes, that could look bad. But if I'm not mistaken, Esteban's artwork
+did come in at or maybe one day after the deadline for the freeze.
+
+The worst decision you could have made as team lead it IMO, would be to
+not make a decision at all.
+
+That having been said, it seems you still have a lot of *post freeze*
+work to do on the artwork.
+
+But again, the thing that disturbs me isn't so much that this occurred,
+but that the decision wasn't actually a team product at all, but the
+decision of a single individual - an individual who cited those reasons
+for not considering the newcomer's works.
+
+&gt;<i> I'm very sorry that Esteban feels this way, that was entirely not my
+</I>&gt;<i> intention. In fact, I was up for over an hour last night (actually very
+</I>&gt;<i> early this morning) agonizing over that email, trying my best *not *to
+</I>&gt;<i> sound like a dick. I guess I failed there.
+</I>
+I'm sure your intentions were honorable. And they seem honorable - you
+acted on behalf of a team of people who needed some sort of validation
+for the welfare of that team.
+
+Now please consider seeing if you can't patch things up with Esteban -
+I've got a gut feeling that he'll become a great asset and motivating
+force on your team :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, I am not going to resign in a huff and storm off, because that would
+</I>
+Of course not. Besides, I don't think you would want to lose your
+medical and dental insurance ;)
+
+&gt;<i> be even worse. I don't know what I will do, but I'm open to suggestions.
+</I>
+Well, right now you're going to have to get some copy folded into the
+artwork you[r team] chose to go forward with :)
+
+I figure Trish will have some final copy for your team in a few hours
+following a suggestion period by anyone else here.
+
+My gravest concern remains - that the textual verbiage and the visual
+concepts aren't being developed congruently in a complimentary manner
+(we're pasting up).
+
+In the meantime don't sweat it - we're all Diks at times when we're
+frustrated, exhausted, and overworked. Coming to terms with that is all
+we can do and then we move on - we've got a product launch to ready :)
+
+Oh, and please stop cross-posting! It bugs me and borks my mail filters.
+Sending separate duplicate messages to each list keeps the mail client
+(and Bradley) happy :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think all or most of the members would like Trish to stay as the team
+leader :). For team leader I vote for Trish :).
+
+As for the deputy position I think we actually have three people who
+would like to be it: Josh, Bradley, and myself. For the deputy leader
+since I can't vote for myself, I am voting for Josh :).
+
+Trish did you forget about Josh in your email, or did he tell you that
+he didn't want to be deputy leader any more?
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>Esteban I liked your artwork :), if your getting this email great, it
+means your on one or both of the mailing lists still :). Work with the
+artwork team and marketing team and your designs can probably be used no
+problem for Mageia 3 :).
+
+Tumberlina, Gaula, and myself had a IRC chat about a cross design idea,
+and I thought it would have been a great idea, since that way could have
+used artwork from both yourself and Gaula as the slide show images :)
+for Mageia 2. However this idea was also discussed the day before when
+the artwork freeze was meant to be, and so there wouldn't really have
+been that much time to put the idea into action I guess.
+
+Max don't worry about it to much, things happen, people aren't perfect.
+
+I understand that you didn't really want to end up becoming the artwork
+team leader, because of being a student. I also understand that with the
+time you had to give to the artwork team, that you have been trying to
+do your best as leader/deputy leader :).
+
+Other teams have been voting on who to have as a team leader and deputy
+leader. I understand that you basically became the artwork team leader
+for now instead of TeaAge for some reason. I think there should be some
+sort of policy or something for Mageia. if someone is to long away from
+their position, someone else should be able to replace them. As a result
+maybe it's time to have a artwork team election as well, who to have as
+the leader, deputy leader, and possibly also a 3rd position that is
+someone else a council representative.
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+Bradley the way you replied to Max was not that nice/professional.
+
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>
+Hi was I dropped from this for some reason? I wasn't available the past
+few days so if I missed something I apologize
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+<PRE>On 12 March 2012 19:12, Josh King &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 03/12/2012 05:49 AM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi was I dropped from this for some reason? I wasn't available the past few
+</I>&gt;<i> days so if I missed something I apologize
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Trish
+
+Here are changes:
+
+Mageia is more than just a Linux distribution, it's a community of users
+from many different countries. You do not need to be a programmer, to
+use or contribute to Mageia!
+
+With Mageia you get lots of software choices: Gear up your desktop with the
+elegant KDE, the revolutionary Gnome or the lightweight LXDE.
+
+Mageia's graphical control centre gives users, accessible control over their
+computer - from setting up user accounts, to helping with configuring
+hardware.
+
+Or maybe something like this:
+
+Mageia's graphical control centre makes it easy to open up graphical
+tools for setting up user accounts, installing software, and configuring
+hardware.
+
+Mageia has easily available software packages for creating 2D and 3D
+graphics and animation.
+
+Type documents, create databases, or create business
+presentations with the default office suite LibreOffice.
+Or try alternative softwares such as KOffice, Abiword, and Gnumeric.
+
+Mageia can easily be used to browse the web, check email, and chat with
+friends, family, or co-workers.
+
+Code, compile, debug and package - Mageia has development tools easily
+available for install.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+&gt;<i> For the kde/gnome/lxde issue, how would:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> .......the elegent, revolutionary and lightweight kde, gnome and lxde be?
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>Nearly did a separate email with this, but now doing it as a reply to
+yours :):
+
+XFCE should be mentioned as well.
+
+Also something else if the slide show image has a logo for the desktop
+environments and XFCE is mentioned need a logo for that as well.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<PRE>On 03/12/2012 01:06 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Trish did you forget about Josh in your email, or did he tell you
+</I>&gt;<i> that he didn't want to be deputy leader any more?
+</I>
+Aaargh! I did forget, damn. Please add Josh to the list of candidates.
+My apologies, Josh!
+
+Cheers!
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+<PRE>Seb, thanks for the work! but: too big! remember the size of the splash
+screens. Can you edit down very very hard, and come back with updates?
+
+Each text needs to be around 15 words, as a rule of thumb (otherwise
+there's no room for the picture), I think. Check the install screens
+from both Esteban's and Guala's images and do a count.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+&gt;<i> Hi Trish
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here are changes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia is more than just a Linux distribution, it's a community of
+</I>&gt;<i> users from many different countries. You do not need to be a
+</I>&gt;<i> programmer, to use or contribute to Mageia!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With Mageia you get lots of software choices: Gear up your desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> with the elegant KDE, the revolutionary Gnome or the lightweight LXDE.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia's graphical control centre gives users, accessible control
+</I>&gt;<i> over their computer - from setting up user accounts, to helping with
+</I>&gt;<i> configuring hardware.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or maybe something like this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia's graphical control centre makes it easy to open up graphical
+</I>&gt;<i> tools for setting up user accounts, installing software, and
+</I>&gt;<i> configuring hardware.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia has easily available software packages for creating 2D and 3D
+</I>&gt;<i> graphics and animation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Type documents, create databases, or create business
+</I>&gt;<i> presentations with the default office suite LibreOffice.
+</I>&gt;<i> Or try alternative softwares such as KOffice, Abiword, and Gnumeric.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia can easily be used to browse the web, check email, and chat
+</I>&gt;<i> with friends, family, or co-workers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Code, compile, debug and package - Mageia has development tools
+</I>&gt;<i> easily available for install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+<PRE>Hi folks,
+
+I understand that we might all be feeling a bit uneasy; it's amazing
+how unsettling it can be when your team up and explodes around you.
+It's nice, though, to see that we're capable of such a *civilised*
+explosion; I've been on lists where it was definitely a case of, duck
+and run for cover. Can I just say: I'm really glad to be working with
+all of you?
+
+Council has asked us to please *have the final splash screens* (text and
+all) ready by the time of our meeting Wednesday, no ifs buts or
+maybes... so we better get cracking, or ennael might come after us!
+
+Anyway: we need to get these texts nailed down. So, here are the
+parameters:
+
+5 install screens that rotate through the install time. Artwork can
+choose which 5; we just provide the text;
+
+Each screen should have one (1) subject; and
+
+The text should take no more than 20 words for each screen.
+
+Please can we pick 5 subjects, get together all the texts on that
+subject, and start pruning?
+
+Cheers!
+
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+Tue Mar 13 07:48:46 EST 2012
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+<PRE>Answering my own email:
+
+&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>
+and Josh!
+
+
+Since I can't vote for myself, I've only got one to cast; my
+deputy leader vote goes to Bradley.
+
+We've still got quite a while for people to cast a vote - please don't
+be shy!
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Tue Mar 13 07:43:41 EST 2012
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I understand that we might all be feeling a bit uneasy; it's amazing
+</I>&gt;<i> how unsettling it can be when your team up and explodes around you.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's nice, though, to see that we're capable of such a *civilised*
+</I>&gt;<i> explosion; I've been on lists where it was definitely a case of, duck
+</I>&gt;<i> and run for cover. Can I just say: I'm really glad to be working with
+</I>&gt;<i> all of you?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Council has asked us to please *have the final splash screens* (text
+</I>&gt;<i> and all) ready by the time of our meeting Wednesday, no ifs buts or
+</I>&gt;<i> maybes... so we better get cracking, or ennael might come after us!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway: we need to get these texts nailed down. So, here are the
+</I>&gt;<i> parameters:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5 install screens that rotate through the install time. Artwork can
+</I>&gt;<i> choose which 5; we just provide the text;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Each screen should have one (1) subject; and
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The text should take no more than 20 words for each screen.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please can we pick 5 subjects, get together all the texts on that
+</I>&gt;<i> subject, and start pruning?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>
+PS: if we agree on a time, we could do it together on a piratepad.
+
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+Tue Mar 13 08:12:54 EST 2012
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+<PRE>On 03/12/2012 04:13 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Each screen should have one (1) subject; and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The text should take no more than 20 words for each screen.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please can we pick 5 subjects, get together all the texts on that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> subject, and start pruning?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: if we agree on a time, we could do it together on a piratepad.
+</I>
+Outside of my day job, the only night I have free this week is tonight.
+I start a new class this week, so think should calm down a bit after
+week 1 is down.
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+<PRE>On 03/12/2012 03:38 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Trish did you forget about Josh in your email, or did he tell you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that he didn't want to be deputy leader any more?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Aaargh! I did forget, damn. Please add Josh to the list of candidates.
+</I>&gt;<i> My apologies, Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+No worries :-) Even if I don't win a seat I still intend on helping
+where I can. Unofficial assistant/secretary?...LOL
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> On 03/12/2012 04:13 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Each screen should have one (1) subject; and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The text should take no more than 20 words for each screen.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Please can we pick 5 subjects, get together all the texts on that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; subject, and start pruning?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; PS: if we agree on a time, we could do it together on a piratepad.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Outside of my day job, the only night I have free this week is
+</I>&gt;<i> tonight. I start a new class this week, so think should calm down a
+</I>&gt;<i> bit after week 1 is down.
+</I>
+No probs Josh! I have to sign off in about half an hour (when the
+council meeting finishes) and start my day, so tomorrow night would be
+better for me - what about everyone else?
+
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+Tue Mar 13 08:27:54 EST 2012
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> On 03/12/2012 03:38 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Trish did you forget about Josh in your email, or did he tell you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; that he didn't want to be deputy leader any more?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Aaargh! I did forget, damn. Please add Josh to the list of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; candidates. My apologies, Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No worries :-) Even if I don't win a seat I still intend on helping
+</I>&gt;<i> where I can. Unofficial assistant/secretary?...LOL
+</I>
+Not so much of the unofficial... there's plenty of work for all of us!
+
+(And the election's not over yet. 11pm AEST tonight, so.)
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+OK, here are a few thoughts (consider them my planks for running if you
+like, even though that's not my intent). I see a lot of lurkers, and a
+decent amount of people who want to join in Mageia but seem to be a
+little timid. I think we are attracting many first time contributors -
+which is awesome!! But Maybe a bit more hand holding or other
+infrastructure would work.
+
+For example, when I joined the packaging team I was welcomed with open
+arms, given a mentor, and several places to go to ask questions. It was
+in a word, friggin sweet (ok that's 2 words)!
+
+My point in all of this is I'd love to see something that gives the
+average user an &quot;foot in the door&quot; to working within Mageia. As much as
+I hate to admit it, this is one thing Ubuntu and to a lesser extent
+Fedora do very well.
+
+This is the total brainstorming part but maybe it will get the ball
+rolling. Why not a mageia-users team/council seat? Marketing of the
+viral kind would be amazing for us, and who better to do that than
+excited and enthusiastic users? I'm not talking any pay for membership
+thing, but for a user to say, my application was accepted to the
+mageia-users team means something to many people. I don't pretend that
+any of these ideas are particularly good, but just some thinking I've
+been doing about bridging the gap between dev/teams/ and community.
+
+I'd love to hear ideas and thoughts on this. With Mga 2 coming up, I'd
+love to see us making a splash with something more than just download
+and visit the forum once in awhile.
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+Thanks!
+Josh
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+On 03/12/2012 02:13 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: if we agree on a time, we could do it together on a piratepad.
+</I>
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+That would be a great collaboration setting to whittle down copy. I'll
+be available in the evenings and with the exception of a dental
+appointment tomorrow, can make arrangements to attend a daytime
+gathering too.
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+If the time frame isn't optimal I'll do my best to make it fit in order
+to accommodate the most people at once.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> be available in the evenings and with the exception of a dental
+</I>&gt;<i> appointment tomorrow, can make arrangements to attend a daytime
+</I>&gt;<i> gathering too.
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+</I>&gt;<i> If the time frame isn't optimal I'll do my best to make it fit in order
+</I>&gt;<i> to accommodate the most people at once.
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+Looking at my schedule I may have a shirt amount of free time tomorrow
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+On 03/12/2012 12:43 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 12/03/12 19:38, Donald Stewart wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For the kde/gnome/lxde issue, how would:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> .......the elegent, revolutionary and lightweight kde, gnome and lxde be?
+</I>
+
+I looked and looked, and couldn't find this post by Donald. So I'll just
+quote and respond to his missing post here secondhandedly.
+
+The point I wanted to focus on is the word *lightweight*.
+
+KDE isn't considered lightweight. It's pretty bloaty, along with Gnome
+and Enlightenment.
+
+The lightweights out there are Xfce, LXDE, BlackBox, FluxBox, and the
+FVWMs - but not KDE :)
+
+The 'Cholesterol' count is actually going up with regards to Xfce too,
+but at this juncture it's still considered lightweight.
+
+I just thought I'd mention that so we don't end up with copy saying that
+KDE is lightweight. There would be more than a few chuckles out there if
+we let that one through.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
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+&gt;<i> OK, here are a few thoughts (consider them my planks for running if
+</I>&gt;<i> you like, even though that's not my intent). I see a lot of lurkers,
+</I>&gt;<i> and a decent amount of people who want to join in Mageia but seem to
+</I>&gt;<i> be a little timid. I think we are attracting many first time
+</I>&gt;<i> contributors - which is awesome!! But Maybe a bit more hand holding or
+</I>&gt;<i> other infrastructure would work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For example, when I joined the packaging team I was welcomed with open
+</I>&gt;<i> arms, given a mentor, and several places to go to ask questions. It
+</I>&gt;<i> was in a word, friggin sweet (ok that's 2 words)!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My point in all of this is I'd love to see something that gives the
+</I>&gt;<i> average user an &quot;foot in the door&quot; to working within Mageia. As much
+</I>&gt;<i> as I hate to admit it, this is one thing Ubuntu and to a lesser extent
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora do very well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is the total brainstorming part but maybe it will get the ball
+</I>&gt;<i> rolling. Why not a mageia-users team/council seat? Marketing of the
+</I>&gt;<i> viral kind would be amazing for us, and who better to do that than
+</I>&gt;<i> excited and enthusiastic users? I'm not talking any pay for membership
+</I>&gt;<i> thing, but for a user to say, my application was accepted to the
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-users team means something to many people. I don't pretend that
+</I>&gt;<i> any of these ideas are particularly good, but just some thinking I've
+</I>&gt;<i> been doing about bridging the gap between dev/teams/ and community.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd love to hear ideas and thoughts on this. With Mga 2 coming up, I'd
+</I>&gt;<i> love to see us making a splash with something more than just download
+</I>&gt;<i> and visit the forum once in awhile.
+</I>
+I agree and really everyone who uses Mageia is part of the community.
+
+There are many ways people can contribute to Mageia without being on an
+official team for it. For example when I mentioned IRC cloaks on the
+Mageia discuss and marketing mailing lists, I mentioned how someone
+should be able to do a lot of Mageia support on IRC and then receive
+one. Well when Mageia has the IRC cloaks sorted out with Freenode this is.
+
+With Ubuntu there's a guy who I assume still helps out a lot in the big
+IRC channel, and as far as I know all he did for Ubuntu or mainly, was
+IRC support, and as a result of becoming one of the main support people
+in the channel, he was able to become a Ubuntu Community Member and get
+the IRC cloak for example.
+
+Another example of contributing to Mageia, but not really as part of an
+official team would be what I do with the #mageia-social channel. I
+build up the #mageia-social IRC channel, and welcome new users to the
+channel, and help keep people interested in the Mageia community.
+However really this is done as a team in a way with the other users of
+the channel who tend to chat there :), because people in general aren't
+likely to stick around for long, if not that much happens in there.
+
+Someone who uses the channel has even donated money twice to Mageia, and
+he doesn't use the distribution at the moment, but he uses the
+#mageia-social channel :).
+
+Mageia can also be mentioned and promoted on podcasts for example by
+people, be they on an official team for the project or not. In fact I
+went on a podcast for my first time as a guest, to talk about Mageia and
+Desktop Linux in general and so on last year, as I was slowly deciding
+what I wanted to do for Mageia other than IRC and Identica stuff, before
+I joined any official teams.
+
+Took me quite a while to join any official teams, although I had been
+thinking about marketing for a rather long time here and there before I
+joined, and talked to Trish on IRC a few times about joining. Plus some
+stuff to do with the mailing lists and what email address I would use
+before I joined any teams.
+
+Someone could make tutorial videos for doing things with Mageia just for
+fun for example and not be on any official team for Mageia.
+
+Or someone could type blog posts every now and again about Mageia,
+because they like the distro and not be on any official teams for example.
+
+Someone could also help to build up interest in person in their local
+area or country, and not be on any official Magiea teams, yep local
+communities. Oh and I suggest watching this video if haven't already
+seen it:
+<A HREF="http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm">http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm</A>
+
+
+Also someone could help to gain interest in Mageia on social networking
+sites and not be on any official teams. I did that for a long time
+before joining any official teams using Identica, although that was
+mainly to make sure news would show in the Mageia group as well, but
+still: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+
+Really everyone who uses Mageia is part of the world wide users
+community :).
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+Hi Bradley,
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; PS: if we agree on a time, we could do it together on a piratepad.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would be a great collaboration setting to whittle down copy. I'll
+</I>&gt;<i> be available in the evenings and with the exception of a dental
+</I>&gt;<i> appointment tomorrow, can make arrangements to attend a daytime
+</I>&gt;<i> gathering too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If the time frame isn't optimal I'll do my best to make it fit in
+</I>&gt;<i> order to accommodate the most people at once.
+</I>
+Can you nominate a time in UTC? We're all over the planet, so I'm not
+sure what your evening is on my clock!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+&gt;<i> Can you nominate a time in UTC? We're all over the planet, so I'm not
+</I>&gt;<i> sure what your evening is on my clock!
+</I>A meeting about text for the splash screens this seems to be? How about
+8pm UTC/GMT Tuesday (now here later on today)? Or even 9pm, 10pm, or
+11pm for example, that's my time, and I won't be doing much this
+evening. 7pm UTC/GMT would work as well really, but that's also for me
+the docs team meeting.
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+&gt;<i> On 03/12/2012 12:43 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 12/03/12 19:38, Donald Stewart wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; For the kde/gnome/lxde issue, how would:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; .......the elegent, revolutionary and lightweight kde, gnome and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; lxde be?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I looked and looked, and couldn't find this post by Donald. So I'll
+</I>&gt;<i> just quote and respond to his missing post here secondhandedly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The point I wanted to focus on is the word *lightweight*.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> KDE isn't considered lightweight. It's pretty bloaty, along with Gnome
+</I>&gt;<i> and Enlightenment.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The lightweights out there are Xfce, LXDE, BlackBox, FluxBox, and the
+</I>&gt;<i> FVWMs - but not KDE :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The 'Cholesterol' count is actually going up with regards to Xfce too,
+</I>&gt;<i> but at this juncture it's still considered lightweight.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just thought I'd mention that so we don't end up with copy saying
+</I>&gt;<i> that KDE is lightweight. There would be more than a few chuckles out
+</I>&gt;<i> there if we let that one through.
+</I>
+8-) I knew someone would pick this up.
+
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+- -35.67896, 142.66637
+Tue Mar 13 13:21:43 EST 2012
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and Josh!
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+I don't know if I have a right to vote, since I don't even know if I'm
+part of the team (I follow the ML and try to give my opinion from time
+to time, but I'm definitely not active in marcom).
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+So, ignore my vote if it is not legitimate ;) It would be:
+Team leader: Trish
+Deputy leader: Sebastian
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/12 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know if I have a right to vote, since I don't even know if I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> part of the team (I follow the ML and try to give my opinion from time
+</I>&gt;<i> to time, but I'm definitely not active in marcom).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, ignore my vote if it is not legitimate ;) It would be:
+</I>&gt;<i> Team leader: Trish
+</I>&gt;<i> Deputy leader: Sebastian
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> R&#233;mi V. / Akien
+</I>
+Akien: vote away. If you&#180;re on the list, you&#180;re on the team!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>
+0451 114 254
+Export Development, Marketing, Education
+Adaptive Technology Consulting
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+<PRE>This is true, it does need more thought. Although having a list of those
+properties is good.
+
+I don't really think xfce qualifies as a light de anymore....
+
+Sorry for the tp, on my phone.
+
+On 13 Mar 2012 02:22, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On 03/12/2012 12:43 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 12/03/12 19:38, Donald Stewart wrote:...
+</I>8-) I knew someone would pick this up.
+
+- --
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>
+and Josh, my apologies again Josh!
+
+Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,
+the results are:
+
+Trish (for team leader): 6
+
+For deputy:
+
+Josh 1
+Bradley 1
+Seb 3
+
+I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't miscount;
+if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy and I'm still
+in the hot seat!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+On 03/12/2012 06:26 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Bradley,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> PS: if we agree on a time, we could do it together on a piratepad.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That would be a great collaboration setting to whittle down copy. I'll
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be available in the evenings and with the exception of a dental
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> appointment tomorrow, can make arrangements to attend a daytime
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gathering too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If the time frame isn't optimal I'll do my best to make it fit in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> order to accommodate the most people at once.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you nominate a time in UTC? We're all over the planet, so I'm not
+</I>&gt;<i> sure what your evening is on my clock!
+</I>
+Sure :)
+
+Josh appears to be in the US, and seems to have the most limiting
+schedule, saying he could be available this evening, so I think maybe
+working within his constraints might facilitate the largest turnout.
+
+I'll be here for a couple of more hours, and then sleep, then a dental
+appointment late this afternoon. After that I'm open from about 01:00hrs
+UTC when I get back from the dentist until about 13:00hrs UTC.
+
+Sebastian appears to be available during his evenings, which appears
+somewhat problematic from this standpoint.
+
+Josh, what kind of time window do you have this evening? Remembering
+that at 01:00hrs UTC it's midnight in Melbourne AU, and we want to make
+it convenient for her.
+
+Judging by time stamps, Trish seems to be most active early evenings and
+very early mornings US time (09:00 - 12:00hrs UTC) and early evenings US
+time, 11:00 - 12:00hrs UTC), yet then again her schedule is as sporadic
+as mine LOL.
+
+Sebastian? If we hear from Josh shortly, would you be able to work
+within that window somewhere?
+
+Once we can settle on a time then Trish can simply post a link to the
+public pad just before the session and we can meet there.
+
+And if none of that works, then as a backup plan I would suggest working
+within the constraints of Sebastian's schedule, but it seems a little
+choppy with several small windows that need to be chosen from.
+
+Here's what Sebastian's schedule looked like last night:
+Open 19:00hrs - 23:00hrs UTC.
+
+If there are other suggestions or folks who want to attend the session
+then pls post your blackout times here in UTC and I'll do my best to
+find a time to propose whether I can make it or not.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
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+<PRE>Read that earlier and now replying :).
+
+Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours before
+voting was over :), and yes now I am :).
+
+Thank You, Donald, Josh, and R&#233;mi/Akien for voting for me :).
+
+On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i> and Josh, my apologies again Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,
+</I>&gt;<i> the results are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish (for team leader): 6
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For deputy:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Seb 3
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> in the hot seat!
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+I'm going down for a late morning nap, then I'm off to the dentist.
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+If anything transpires between now and when I get back please just move
+forward. I wouldn't want an effective session not to occur on my behalf,
+and it should't take long anyway with so many good ideas that have
+already been put forward.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
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+<PRE>On 13/03/12 16:11, Bradley D. Thornton wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> On 03/12/2012 06:26 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Bradley,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> PS: if we agree on a time, we could do it together on a piratepad.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That would be a great collaboration setting to whittle down copy. I'll
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be available in the evenings and with the exception of a dental
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> appointment tomorrow, can make arrangements to attend a daytime
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gathering too.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If the time frame isn't optimal I'll do my best to make it fit in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> order to accommodate the most people at once.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can you nominate a time in UTC? We're all over the planet, so I'm not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sure what your evening is on my clock!
+</I>&gt;<i> Sure :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh appears to be in the US, and seems to have the most limiting
+</I>&gt;<i> schedule, saying he could be available this evening, so I think maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> working within his constraints might facilitate the largest turnout.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll be here for a couple of more hours, and then sleep, then a dental
+</I>&gt;<i> appointment late this afternoon. After that I'm open from about 01:00hrs
+</I>&gt;<i> UTC when I get back from the dentist until about 13:00hrs UTC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian appears to be available during his evenings, which appears
+</I>&gt;<i> somewhat problematic from this standpoint.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh, what kind of time window do you have this evening? Remembering
+</I>&gt;<i> that at 01:00hrs UTC it's midnight in Melbourne AU, and we want to make
+</I>&gt;<i> it convenient for her.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Judging by time stamps, Trish seems to be most active early evenings and
+</I>&gt;<i> very early mornings US time (09:00 - 12:00hrs UTC) and early evenings US
+</I>&gt;<i> time, 11:00 - 12:00hrs UTC), yet then again her schedule is as sporadic
+</I>&gt;<i> as mine LOL.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian? If we hear from Josh shortly, would you be able to work
+</I>&gt;<i> within that window somewhere?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Once we can settle on a time then Trish can simply post a link to the
+</I>&gt;<i> public pad just before the session and we can meet there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And if none of that works, then as a backup plan I would suggest working
+</I>&gt;<i> within the constraints of Sebastian's schedule, but it seems a little
+</I>&gt;<i> choppy with several small windows that need to be chosen from.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here's what Sebastian's schedule looked like last night:
+</I>&gt;<i> Open 19:00hrs - 23:00hrs UTC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If there are other suggestions or folks who want to attend the session
+</I>&gt;<i> then pls post your blackout times here in UTC and I'll do my best to
+</I>&gt;<i> find a time to propose whether I can make it or not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kindest regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - --
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>&gt;<i> Manager Network Services
+</I>&gt;<i> NorthTech Computer
+</I>&gt;<i> TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+</I>&gt;<i> TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+</I>&gt;<i> TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
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+</I>Hmm yeah time zones.
+
+I am a night person at the moment, although more of a day person as well
+at the moment :). So actually really a meeting between 11pm to like 5am
+(or a bit later/earlier even) my time UTC/GMT, should be ok for me
+tonight (,as in Tuesday night or early hours of Wednesday morning).
+
+Trish is 11 hours a head of me at the moment. So 1am here would be mid
+day for her. Trish seems to have a full time job during the week, but
+maybe we can arrange a meeting in her lunch break or something.
+
+I wouldn't normally want to do a team meeting at night, but for this
+there seems to be a good enough reason to possibly do that.
+
+Bradley I assume you are in the US going by your email address and email.
+
+Off topic P.S
+
+Thursday morning will be something, because I am meant to be some where
+at 10:45am.
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+<PRE>In the day tomorrow Wednesday from like 11am GMT/UTC would also work
+for me I expect, well if I go to bed early enough. I think mid day
+GMT/UTC may be a better time for everyone though, that's 11pm for Trish,
+and 7am in EST. Or possibly 1pm UTC/GMT is much better for everyone for
+example.
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+What time zone are you in Bradley and Josh? Assuming you are both in
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+<PRE>On 13 March 2012 18:51, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Read that earlier and now replying :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours before
+</I>&gt;<i> voting was over :), and yes now I am :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank You, Donald, Josh, and R&#233;mi/Akien for voting for me :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and Josh, my apologies again Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,
+</I>&gt;<i> the results are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish (for team leader): 6
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For deputy:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Seb 3
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't miscount;
+</I>&gt;<i> if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy and I'm still
+</I>&gt;<i> in the hot seat!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Count looks good to me, congrats you two. At least there wasn't a
+similar mix up to as with the artwork elections.
+
+Hopefully I can be around more after uni settles.
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+<PRE>I'm UTC minus 5, if that helps any
+
+
+
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+From: &quot;Donald Stewart&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+To: &quot;Mageia marketing team discussion list&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+Date: Tue, Mar 13, 2012 4:18 pm
+
+
+On 13 March 2012 18:51, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Read that earlier and now replying :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours before
+</I>&gt;<i> voting was over :), and yes now I am :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank You, Donald, Josh, and R&#233;mi/Akien for voting for me :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and Josh, my apologies again Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,
+</I>&gt;<i> the results are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish (for team leader): 6
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For deputy:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Bradley 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Seb 3
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't miscount;
+</I>&gt;<i> if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy and I'm still
+</I>&gt;<i> in the hot seat!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
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+Count looks good to me, congrats you two. At least there wasn't a
+similar mix up to as with the artwork elections.
+
+Hopefully I can be around more after uni settles.
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Voting%20for%20our%20team%20lead%20and%20deputy%20lead%20-%0A%20RESULTS&In-Reply-To=%3C20120314083408.7e21e900%40hermes%3E"
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+<PRE>Okay!
+
+Can we please start a piratepad here:
+
+<A HREF="http://bn.parinux.org/">http://bn.parinux.org/</A>
+
+(it's more robust than piratepad itself, but if you're not comfortable
+with it being in French, piratepad is piratepad.net.)
+
+Whoever starts it, please email the link to the actual collaborative
+document to the list. If you could paste in the texts we have so far -
+mine, Seb's, other suggestions - we'll have somewhere to start. Once
+the doc is up, we can work on it together if we're awake together or
+separately if we're not!
+
+Seb is UTC, you(Josh)'re UTC -5, Bradley is sleeping (I think), I'm
+UTC+11.
+
+I am going on trusty old timeanddate.com, and this is what it looks
+like:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?year=2012&amp;month=3&amp;day=14&amp;p1=152&amp;p2=263">http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?year=2012&amp;month=3&amp;day=14&amp;p1=152&amp;p2=263</A>
+
+If you guys are okay to do it in a couple of hours' time - say midnight
+UTC for an hour, because that's going to be plenty of time - I'm
+available then. Otherwise, get started and I'll check in once I have
+the link.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+&gt;<i> I'm UTC minus 5, if that helps any
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----- Reply message -----
+</I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Donald Stewart&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: &quot;Mageia marketing team discussion list&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt; Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for
+</I>&gt;<i> our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS Date: Tue, Mar 13,
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012 4:18 pm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 13 March 2012 18:51, Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Read that earlier and now replying :).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; before voting was over :), and yes now I am :).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thank You, Donald, Josh, and R&#233;mi/Akien for voting for me :).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and Josh, my apologies again Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the results are:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Trish (for team leader): 6
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For deputy:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Josh 1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Bradley 1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Seb 3
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; miscount; if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and I'm still in the hot seat!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Count looks good to me, congrats you two. At least there wasn't a
+</I>&gt;<i> similar mix up to as with the artwork elections.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hopefully I can be around more after uni settles.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Wed Mar 14 08:24:36 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+hermes up 10 hour(s), 0 min.
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+
+Some thoughts came to mind and this is me expressing them in a email :):
+
+We have a Mageia marketing team, but yes indeed we are very much so in
+different time zones in general it seems.
+
+Trish is currently 11 hours a head of England where I am, not that long
+to go now and that will be 9 hours a head instead when the clocks
+change. As a result the current time for the meeting which seems to be
+8pm GMT/UTC Wednesday will be 5am for Trish.
+
+Bradley is in California, I remember now after asking in another email.
+(Plus I saw the time it said his email was sent about getting some sleep
+earlier.) That's 8 hours behind the UK at the moment, however I think
+not that long to go now and for two weeks it will be 7 hours instead,
+before we change to summer time as well.
+
+Also at the end of the year it seems at the moment USA go forward an
+hour before the UK first, because the clocks change first, well the
+states that change time which is most of them.
+
+Josh is five hours behind the UK in EST.
+
+I think for a marketing meeting, that either Trish or myself your newly
+elected deputy leader must be at the meeting, and then the time and day
+can fit in with what the meeting is going to be about and which people
+are mainly going to be chatting at the meeting. If other members of the
+team can make it as well that's great :).
+
+As for topics for future meetings and relivent information, I think
+that Trish and myself should be in good contact with each other about
+this, but also at times with other members of the team.
+
+Marketing team members can also chat in the #mageia-marcom IRC channel
+with each other when there isn't a meeting. Or well the #mageia-social
+channel that I started as well even.
+
+However in general, and I think Trish would agree with me, that when it
+comes to the marketing team, that at the moment it's best to communicate
+with each other mainly using the mailing list, with the exception of the
+meetings.
+
+What are your thoughts about this message, fellow Mageia marketing team
+members?
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+________________________________
+ From: Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;
+To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:34 PM
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+
+Hi
+
+Midnight UTC is 2 AM for me :D
+It is my go to bed time, but i try to stay awake at least for while :)
+
+tumbeliina
+
+
+
+
+Okay!
+
+Can we please start a piratepad here:
+
+<A HREF="http://bn.parinux.org/">http://bn.parinux.org/</A>
+
+(it's more robust than piratepad itself, but if you're not comfortable
+with it being in French, piratepad is piratepad.net.)
+
+Whoever starts it, please email the link to the actual collaborative
+document to the list. If you could paste in the texts we have so far -
+mine, Seb's, other suggestions - we'll have somewhere to start. Once
+the doc is up, we can work on it together if we're awake together or
+separately if we're not!
+
+Seb is UTC, you(Josh)'re UTC -5, Bradley is sleeping (I think), I'm
+UTC+11.
+
+I am going on trusty old timeanddate.com, and this is what it looks
+like:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?year=2012&amp;month=3&amp;day=14&amp;p1=152&amp;p2=263">http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?year=2012&amp;month=3&amp;day=14&amp;p1=152&amp;p2=263</A>
+
+If you guys are okay to do it in a couple of hours' time - say midnight
+UTC for an hour, because that's going to be plenty of time - I'm
+available then. Otherwise, get started and I'll check in once I have
+the link.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> I'm UTC minus 5, if that helps any
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----- Reply message -----
+</I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Donald Stewart&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: &quot;Mageia marketing team discussion list&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt; Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for
+</I>&gt;<i> our team lead and deputy lead -&#160;&#160;&#160; RESULTS Date: Tue, Mar 13,
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012 4:18 pm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 13 March 2012 18:51, Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Read that earlier and now replying :).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; before voting was over :), and yes now I am :).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thank You, Donald, Josh, and R&#233;mi/Akien for voting for me :).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and deputy team lead.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Candidates are:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and Josh, my apologies again Josh!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the results are:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Trish (for team leader): 6
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For deputy:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Josh&#160;&#160;&#160; &#160;&#160;&#160; 1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Bradley&#160;&#160;&#160; &#160;&#160;&#160; 1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Seb&#160;&#160;&#160; &#160;&#160;&#160; 3
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; miscount; if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and I'm still in the hot seat!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Count looks good to me, congrats you two. At least there wasn't a
+</I>&gt;<i> similar mix up to as with the artwork elections.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hopefully I can be around more after uni settles.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
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+
+Tumberlina I think it would be worth staying up to 2am Finnish time for
+this :). Well if you want to help with the text :).
+
+Trish and Tumberlina you both were using the wrong message subject in
+your email about this, so I did another subject.
+
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+
+&gt;<i> Trish midnight UTC/GMT no problem for me :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Tumberlina I think it would be worth staying up to 2am Finnish time
+</I>&gt;<i> for this :). Well if you want to help with the text :).
+</I>
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+</I>
+If you could mail the link to the list, I'll be around in about half an
+hour.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Trish midnight UTC/GMT no problem for me :).
+</I>&gt;<i> If you could mail the link to the list, I'll be around in about half an
+</I>&gt;<i> hour.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Ok no problem :), and Tumberlina started a pad:
+<A HREF="http://bn.parinux.org/79kY3PIF2Z">http://bn.parinux.org/79kY3PIF2Z</A> and I am about to copy stuff into it :).
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+</I>
+By the way - not on IRC, on the piratepad itself... can't do a thing
+until you send me a link!
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+Cheers,
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+Wed Mar 14 10:34:49 EST 2012
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+&gt;<i> By the way - not on IRC, on the piratepad itself... can't do a thing
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I just did that in the email I just sent, but here is the link again:
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+ <I>Wed Mar 14 01:46:04 CET 2012</I>
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+
+Seb and I have thrashed out these 5 texts, and if nobody has any
+comments or edits, this is what we'll send to Artwork later today:
+
+1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of users,
+developers and advocates from around the world.
+
+2. Free software means choice: KDE, Gnome, LXDE or other desktops;
+Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution
+for mail...
+
+3. Mageia covers your graphics and video creation and editing needs
+with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+
+4. Mageia's Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up your
+hardware, software and more, all in one place.
+
+5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash, KMyMoney
+and others cover word processing, spreadsheets, presentations and
+finance.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Wed Mar 14 11:43:45 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+hermes up 13 hour(s), 18 min.
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+Patricia Fraser wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi all
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Seb and I have thrashed out these 5 texts, and if nobody has any
+</I>&gt;<i> comments or edits, this is what we'll send to Artwork later today:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of users,
+</I>&gt;<i> developers and advocates from around the world.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Free software means choice: KDE, Gnome, LXDE or other desktops;
+</I>&gt;<i> Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution
+</I>&gt;<i> for mail...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Mageia covers your graphics and video creation and editing needs
+</I>&gt;<i> with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+</I>
+No, no NO!
+
+3. Mageia covers your graphics, your video creation and editing needs
+with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. Mageia's Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up your
+</I>&gt;<i> hardware, software and more, all in one place.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash, KMyMoney
+</I>&gt;<i> and others cover word processing, spreadsheets, presentations and
+</I>&gt;<i> finance.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+</I>&gt;<i> -35.67896, 142.66637
+</I>&gt;<i> Wed Mar 14 11:43:45 EST 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+</I>&gt;<i> hermes up 13 hour(s), 18 min.
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:46:04 +1100
+</I>&gt;<i> Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Seb and I have thrashed out these 5 texts, and if nobody has any
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; comments or edits, this is what we'll send to Artwork later today:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; users, developers and advocates from around the world.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2. Free software means choice: KDE, Gnome, LXDE or other desktops;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for mail...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 3. Mageia covers your graphics and video creation and editing needs
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, no NO!
+</I>
+8-) Where were you when we were piratepadding?
+
+&gt;<i> 3. Mageia covers your graphics, your video creation and editing needs
+</I>&gt;<i> with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+</I>
+ok!
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; 4. Mageia's Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; your hardware, software and more, all in one place.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; KMyMoney and others cover word processing, spreadsheets,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; presentations and finance.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -35.67896, 142.66637
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Wed Mar 14 11:43:45 EST 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hermes up 13 hour(s), 18 min.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga
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+On 03/13/2012 05:46 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Seb and I have thrashed out these 5 texts, and if nobody has any
+</I>&gt;<i> comments or edits, this is what we'll send to Artwork later today:
+</I>
+
+It all looks pretty good to me.
+
+We had a lot of samples to chop up and play with, which helped out a lot
+and using a public pad at <A HREF="http://bn.parinux.org/">http://bn.parinux.org/</A> proved productive as
+well :)
+
+I'm not feeling too well right now. All the novacaine has worn off and I
+wouldn't let them give me any of that vicodine stuff, so I just woke up
+to gobble a handful of ibuprofen and it's back to bed.
+
+The work was much more invasive than I had anticipated, and I've got
+about two more visits before everything is finished. At least I won't
+have to smell burning enamel from the drill - that parts over.
+
+Congrats to all of us for moving this forward, and I for one am really
+looking forward to seeing the copy folded in with the imagery before it
+goes to packaging.
+
+Ironically, I actually won't ever see that artwork in real life LOL, and
+some of you might have gleaned that when I alluded to the need for
+better LVM support in the text based install ;)
+
+Well, I'm going to lay down now, and I'm canceling all my appointments
+tomorrow. Maybe a movie to fall asleep to... and chicken soup through a
+straw so it doesn't dribble down my chin. Yum :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+- --
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+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
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+I think something like this may be on Trish's plans already, but I am
+not sure exactly.
+
+I think we should have a joint marketing and artwork team meeting at
+about 8pm UTC/GMT (so rather soon) about the installer slide show
+graphics for tomorrow's Mageia 2 Beta 2 release.
+
+For any last minute improvements on the text, and also so that Guala can
+be properly told which text to add to which images.
+
+Trish reply to this when you read it, I think you'll be active on the
+mailing list again soon :).
+
+I know that Max is doing something else this evening, but we can do this
+without him.
+
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+Minutes of tonight's meeting are here:
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+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2012/mageia-marcom.2012-03-14-20.06.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2012/mageia-marcom.2012-03-14-20.06.html</A>
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Minutes of tonight's meeting are here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2012/mageia-marcom.2012-03-14-20.06.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2012/mageia-marcom.2012-03-14-20.06.html</A>
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+
+Here are the final texts for the Mageia 2 install screens:
+
+
+1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of
+ users, developers and advocates from around the world.
+
+2. Free software means choice: KDE, Gnome, LXDE or other desktops;
+ Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution
+ for mail...
+
+3. Mageia covers your graphics, your video creation and editing needs
+ with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+
+4. Mageia's Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up
+ your hardware, software and more, all in one place.
+
+5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash,
+ KMyMoney and others cover word processing, spreadsheets,
+ presentations and finance.
+
+This is the order we'd like to see them presented, but we don't have
+any input to give you on which slide should go with which text - over
+to you!
+
+Many thanks to Seb and John for their input!
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Thu Mar 15 07:45:01 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+hermes up 1 hour(s), 1 min.
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 07:46:34AM +1100, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. Free software means choice: KDE, Gnome, LXDE or other desktops;
+</I>&gt;<i> FYI: It is GNOME, not Gnome.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Ok let's have it spelt correctly in the image :).
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+P.S
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+Olav I didn't know you were on the artwork mailing list, but ok good you
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+Well yesterday morning I drove back over to the dentist and pickup that
+prescription.
+
+It's not very fun to eat but the prescription makes it a bit easier not
+to care about it if I simply double the dose and interval instructions
+on the label.
+
+I should be back in the swing of things in the next day or two, yet in
+the meantime I fup'd on the logs.
+
+There's a few contact points I can add to the notification list. I'll
+dig those up over the next couple of weeks, and Trish, if you can shoot
+me on over any scraps of dangling release announcement copy to add to my
+scratch pad that would be nice to have as a reference too.
+
+I tend to develop such news articles over a period of a few weeks before
+publishing, providing ample time to address my grammatical shortcomings ;)
+
+Right now my mouth is hurting so I guess it's time to dope up again and
+lay back down after a bowl of chick soup.
+
+Yes that was record time for completion of the meeting, and nice to see
+from the logs that it went so smoothly :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
+TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
+TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
+<A HREF="http://NorthTech.US">http://NorthTech.US</A>
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+On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 00:37, Josh King &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> This is the total brainstorming part but maybe it will get the ball rolling.
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not a mageia-users team/council seat?
+</I>
+That's an idea that was proposed at the very start of the design of
+Mageia's governance: users (through local user groups, ml, forums,
+other) would have a seat to Council. But this didn't happen, for no
+one stepped in, and user groups were not ready/coordinated for that.
+But why not now, if it can?
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+<PRE>2012/3/15 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 00:37, Josh King &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is the total brainstorming part but maybe it will get the ball rolling.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why not a mageia-users team/council seat?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's an idea that was proposed at the very start of the design of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia's governance: users (through local user groups, ml, forums,
+</I>&gt;<i> other) would have a seat to Council. But this didn't happen, for no
+</I>&gt;<i> one stepped in, and user groups were not ready/coordinated for that.
+</I>&gt;<i> But why not now, if it can?
+</I>
+Actually I did write proposal about that and sent it to council.
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities</A>
+
+But due to very large todo lists, not many people answered till now.
+
+Oliver
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 19:47, Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/15 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 00:37, Josh King &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is the total brainstorming part but maybe it will get the ball rolling.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Why not a mageia-users team/council seat?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's an idea that was proposed at the very start of the design of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia's governance: users (through local user groups, ml, forums,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other) would have a seat to Council. But this didn't happen, for no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> one stepped in, and user groups were not ready/coordinated for that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But why not now, if it can?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually I did write proposal about that and sent it to council.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But due to very large todo lists, not many people answered till now.
+</I>
+Ha, of course, yes! (where have I lost my memory... Sorry Oliver) :)
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+&gt;<i> Ha, of course, yes! (where have I lost my memory... Sorry Oliver) :)
+</I>No prob. I didn't push because I wanted to wait for the beta2 release.
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
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+There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,
+to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and
+artwork.
+
+What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's
+very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it
+personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.
+
+Cheers,
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+ <B>Donald Stewart</B>
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+<PRE>Im for it. They're are many people on both teams and most if not all
+projects are connected.
+
+However, meetings and whatnot should remain separate. Although that OS
+probably getting ahead of myself.
+
+On 15 Mar 2012 20:44, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+Hi all,
+
+There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,
+to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and
+artwork.
+
+What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's
+very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it
+personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE>On 03/15/2012 03:44 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,
+</I>&gt;<i> to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's
+</I>&gt;<i> very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it
+</I>&gt;<i> personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>
+I think it makes sense to merge them. Maybe MArtCom team? ;-)
+
+Personally what I would really like to see is more community outreach
+type functions; getting users involved in more areas. Something like a
+planet for mageia users even might be a good start? Anyway, I've been
+kicking around some ideas and will put them up to the group once they've
+solidified.
+
+Thanks!
+Josh
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+ <B>tumbeliina</B>
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+
+Good art is the best marketing.
+
+tumbeliina
+
+
+________________________________
+ From: Josh King &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:55 PM
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+
+On 03/15/2012 03:44 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,
+</I>&gt;<i> to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's
+</I>&gt;<i> very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it
+</I>&gt;<i> personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>
+I think it makes sense to merge them. Maybe MArtCom team? ;-)
+
+Personally what I would really like to see is more community outreach type functions; getting users involved in more areas. Something like a planet for mageia users even might be a good start? Anyway, I've been kicking around some ideas and will put them up to the group once they've solidified.
+
+Thanks!
+Josh
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 21:55, Josh King &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 03/15/2012 03:44 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.
+</I>
+I wouldn't merge the teams per se (with their leads), but I would make
+a default common channel of communication, both IRC and mailing-list.
+So that communication/sync within teams is easier. But it's important
+that both teams keep a separate seat at the Council.
+
+&gt;<i> I think it makes sense to merge them. Maybe MArtCom team? ;-)
+</I>
+Oliver suggested martkomm :)
+
+&gt;<i> Personally what I would really like to see is more community outreach type
+</I>&gt;<i> functions; getting users involved in more areas. Something like a planet for
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia users even might be a good start?
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A> could be a start (we have other locales,
+and we should upgrade the templates of it to make it more zine-like)
+
+&gt;<i> Anyway, I've been kicking around
+</I>&gt;<i> some ideas and will put them up to the group once they've solidified.
+</I>
+Yes!
+
+
+
+--
+Romain d'Alverny
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/">http://mageia.org/</A> board &amp; council member
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+One channel of communication, separate council seats.
+We probably need two defacto leaders (council seats) but I think one deputy
+(whose job is just to pick up the slack if a leader is unavailable) is
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+&gt;<i> I wouldn't merge the teams per se (with their leads), but I would make
+</I>&gt;<i> a default common channel of communication, both IRC and mailing-list.
+</I>&gt;<i> So that communication/sync within teams is easier. But it's important
+</I>&gt;<i> that both teams keep a separate seat at the Council.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think it makes sense to merge them. Maybe MArtCom team? ;-)
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver suggested martkomm :)
+</I>As Trish already knows I think merging the marketing and communications,
+and artwork team together is a good idea.
+
+I seem to pretty much agree with rda or nearly and I like Josh's name
+suggestion more so than Oliver's.
+
+I think MArtCom should be created, a IRC channel and mailing list. For
+the IRC channel I am willing to register it and set it up as in giving
+leaders and deputy leaders ops for example.
+
+We could also drop two Mageia IRC channels that's marcom and artwork and
+replace them with martcom. It also seems that marcom and artwork aren't
+even registered on the Freenode network, or they are, but not set up in
+the normal way.
+
+As for the mailing list currently marketing and artwork have the mailing
+lists on mailman: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/</A> For some
+reason the newer mailing lists get listed at
+<A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/l/home">https://ml.mageia.org/l/home</A> instead. It also seems going by a docs team
+meeting that I was in, that the older mailing lists are likely to
+eventually move over to the newer set up. With the newer set up unlike
+the old, a Mageia Identify account is also required to be on the mailing
+lists.
+
+We could still keep the separate team IRC channels and mailing lists,
+but I think it makes much more sense to do a proper merge and stop using
+them.
+
+As for old emails to the mailing lists, they can either stay where they
+are in the archives for the old mailing lists and people stop sending to
+that list, or sending to is disabled. The messages could also be
+archived some where else publicly.
+
+As for the meeting IRC logs they can stay in there sections at
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org">http://meetbot.mageia.org</A> for the old channels, and I expect they can
+also be pointed to from a new martcom IRC channel section.
+
+As for the team leader and deputy team leader positions, I agree with
+rda or pretty much it seems. I think Trish should instantly become the
+leader of the new MArtCom, and I become the deputy leader, since I won
+the vote for becoming that recently for marketing. However Trish and
+myself would be mainly the marketing side of the MArtCom team, and
+leader-wise we need the artwork as well, and so Max for example could
+become the other deputy leader or leader. Like rda suggested and I 100%
+agree with him, the team should have two seats at the council. Well
+actually maybe it should have more than that depending on how things go
+in the future.
+
+I would probably want Max to be the deputy leader or leader of a new
+MArtCom team on the artwork side. TeaAge it seems has been away for a
+long time, and I think the artwork team should have a vote like other
+teams have been doing on who should be leader and deputy leader. Or
+members of a new MArtCom team can vote (if we start that team) for who
+should be the leader and deputy leader on the artwork side.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+ <B>Marcello</B>
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+<PRE>Il 15/03/2012 21:44, Patricia Fraser ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,
+</I>&gt;<i> to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's
+</I>&gt;<i> very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it
+</I>&gt;<i> personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+for me it's ok
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+ <B>R&#233;mi Verschelde</B>
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+<PRE>2012/3/15 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,
+</I>&gt;<i> to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's
+</I>&gt;<i> very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it
+</I>&gt;<i> personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.
+</I>
+I really like this idea. Artwork and marketing are so closely
+intertwined that I find it hard that the work is sequenced. So I am
+totally in favour of this half merge.
+
+R&#233;mi / Akien
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+On 03/15/2012 01:44 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,
+</I>&gt;<i> to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork.
+</I>
+Although this has already been decided, and will come to pass, I would
+like to address the issue from the perspective that it actually makes
+little, if any, sense at all.
+
+The next month or so, the MarCom team, already a merge of two business
+concepts called *marketing* and *communications*, will engage in the
+production of copy for press releases (this is called publicity),
+preparing for interviews for podcasts and other media outlets, as well
+as reviews in several Internet staple venues.
+
+Whereas MarCom has worked closely with the Artwork team during this most
+recent phase of the preparation for a new stable release of Mageia, most
+of what the MarCom team has little, if anything to do with the design,
+production, or development of artwork, while *some* of what we do here
+has much to do with intense collaboration with the Artwork Team.
+
+Most of what the MarCom team does has to do with Marketing,
+Communications, and Publicity.
+
+To merge the two would be to cripple the ability for a non-graphical
+arts aspect of standard business operations, and invite a continuation
+of the *bad copy* that marked the first beta releases of Mageia. Copy
+that was published without ever being passed through MarCom, copy that
+was subsequently noted as being a mistake for being published prior to
+passing through MarCom until distilled and matured.
+
+Bad copy translates into a lack of public confidence - no matter how
+pretty the images are.
+
+I believe that a significant reason for the consideration of this
+proposal is to assist the MarCom Team and the Artwork Team work more
+closely throughout the development process of imagery - something I have
+pointed out in earlier posts as &quot;congruent and complimentary&quot;.
+
+Although the production of artwork with text is the end result of a
+symbiosis between these two different disciplines, it just doesn't
+justify IMO the merge between the two teams.
+
+Artwork is... art. In our particular circumstances, it is business graphics.
+
+MarCom and other teams are responsible for interfacing with other Mageia
+teams as well as interfacing with other interdisciplinary professions in
+the outside world. Internally, this includes translation and
+internationalization, while on the outside it includes aspects of the
+professional news media.
+
+The Artwork Teams concerns do not actually involve this type of direct
+interface and relationship with podcasters, press release sites, news
+media sites, television, radio, conventions, internationalization and
+translation, and publicity agents. It is however, the core of imagery
+production in form and format for all of Mageia.
+
+The pre-decided merger of the MarCom Team and the Artwork Team will
+serve in some ways to enhance (but only due to a lack of coordination
+that should have been present in the first place) the *congruent and
+complimentary* development of images with text...
+
+But on the other hand, the merger will dilute our marketing,
+communications, and publicity capabilities, reducing it to the type of
+copy that Mageia debuted with that was sorely lacking in the appearance
+of a polished, and professional business product.
+
+That's my two cents, and I just thought that I would put it out there so
+I have a post to link to when, in the future, people ask, &quot;Why does out
+public relations suck and all of our official announcements look like
+they were never copy edited?
+
+Anyway, my post won't make any difference, but it will serve as an, &quot;I
+told you so&quot;, when a new Publicity and Marketing Team is proposed to
+fill this void in a year or so, after enough new blood has joined the
+project so that no one remembers the MarCom team and it's charter ;)
+
+I hope that helps!
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
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+On 03/15/2012 02:22 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wouldn't merge the teams per se (with their leads), but I would make
+</I>&gt;<i> a default common channel of communication, both IRC and mailing-list.
+</I>&gt;<i> So that communication/sync within teams is easier. But it's important
+</I>&gt;<i> that both teams keep a separate seat at the Council.
+</I>
+
+The *default common channel* of communication is the part that has been
+lacking for the most part, while Max has opined a lack of performance
+and participation as the root cause of much of the problems too.
+
+I agree with Romain that a &quot;merger&quot; is NOT the answer, and offer that
+keeping the two distinctly different, yet complimentary disciplines as
+separate entities of the organization is the best course to stay.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
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+<PRE>Think of it this way: both artwork and marcom are concerned with the
+appearance of Mageia. It's all about how we present ourselves to the world.
+Whether it's a shiny desktop, eye catching posters or good content on
+podcasts. It all boils down to the same thing: how we look to the outside
+world.
+One of main problems we have with this is good communication. It's not just
+this one project where the two teams need to work together, but it's many
+projects. Thinking back for a few seconds I recall the booth setup for
+FOSDEM, the posters, the disc covers and a few other projects where both
+teams needed to work together.
+Aside from the lack of cooperation *within* the team, there was bad
+communication *between* teams. Efforts have been made in the past to try
+and amplify the cooperation, by staggering IRC meetings, by having people
+sign up for both mailing lists... but they never worked well. Most recently
+when we tried to collaborate we had many double posts on both lists, many
+redundant threads and many people being left out of the loop. Why? Because
+we were trying to communicate across two different lists and more or less
+the same people.
+Now, to clarify: the proposal isn't to merge the actual teams, just the
+communication channels. There will be (under the new proposal) one mailing
+list and one IRC channel. But essentially both teams will function as
+before. Each team will have one leader and one council representative
+(probably the same person for each team) and one deputy. This way both
+teams can function as a single unit when it comes to cross-communication
+and idea sharing (which happens a lot), but each team retains its autonomy.
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+&gt;<i> Anyway, my post won't make any difference
+</I>
+I think it already has :). I think that was a very good message. I do
+however think that it is a good idea to completely merge with the
+artwork team and how I had suggested in my email to this mailing list
+and the artwork. Why? Simple, because then as a whole there will be more
+control, over a team that has been having problems.
+
+The big MArtCom team can be split up into sub teams of people who are
+only or mainly working on specific tasks, but members in our team can
+provide feedback and support for tasks that are being worked on by other
+people in the team as well. For example graphics designers could be
+working on the installer slide show images, but also provide feedback
+about the installer slide show text from marketing people. Or marketing
+team people could be working on reviews, but also provide feedback of
+the looks of the graphics.
+
+Trish has been working with the artwork team quite a lot in the last few
+months or more. I noticed this and that was why I made sure to join the
+artwork team mailing list, and so the team as well as a result, soon
+after joining marketing, even though not really a graphics designer.
+
+Something else it seems the marketing and artwork team IRC meetings have
+been linked together as to when they are for which team. For example one
+week is marketing and the next is artwork and at that time, or that's
+meant to be the idea in general.
+
+P.S
+
+Bradley glad you seem to be feeling better :).
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+<PRE>I think Max's email explains it very well.
+
+Just want to add the council representative is usually the leader or
+deputy leader depending on the meeting it seems for Mageia teams,
+however I think for Mageia teams that it would be good if both the
+leader and deputy leader could be this together at council meetings
+together for example.
+
+On 17/03/12 18:43, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+&gt;<i> Think of it this way: both artwork and marcom are concerned with the
+</I>&gt;<i> appearance of Mageia. It's all about how we present ourselves to the
+</I>&gt;<i> world. Whether it's a shiny desktop, eye catching posters or good
+</I>&gt;<i> content on podcasts. It all boils down to the same thing: how we look
+</I>&gt;<i> to the outside world.
+</I>&gt;<i> One of main problems we have with this is good communication. It's not
+</I>&gt;<i> just this one project where the two teams need to work together, but
+</I>&gt;<i> it's many projects. Thinking back for a few seconds I recall the booth
+</I>&gt;<i> setup for FOSDEM, the posters, the disc covers and a few other
+</I>&gt;<i> projects where both teams needed to work together.
+</I>&gt;<i> Aside from the lack of cooperation /within/ the team, there was bad
+</I>&gt;<i> communication /between/ teams. Efforts have been made in the past to
+</I>&gt;<i> try and amplify the cooperation, by staggering IRC meetings, by having
+</I>&gt;<i> people sign up for both mailing lists... but they never worked well.
+</I>&gt;<i> Most recently when we tried to collaborate we had many double posts on
+</I>&gt;<i> both lists, many redundant threads and many people being left out of
+</I>&gt;<i> the loop. Why? Because we were trying to communicate across two
+</I>&gt;<i> different lists and more or less the same people.
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, to clarify: the proposal isn't to merge the actual teams, just
+</I>&gt;<i> the communication channels. There will be (under the new proposal) one
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing list and one IRC channel. But essentially both teams will
+</I>&gt;<i> function as before. Each team will have one leader and one council
+</I>&gt;<i> representative (probably the same person for each team) and one
+</I>&gt;<i> deputy. This way both teams can function as a single unit when it
+</I>&gt;<i> comes to cross-communication and idea sharing (which happens a lot),
+</I>&gt;<i> but each team retains its autonomy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
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+
+&lt;snip&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Anyway, my post won't make any difference, but it will serve as an, &quot;I
+</I>&gt;<i> told you so&quot;, when a new Publicity and Marketing Team is proposed to
+</I>&gt;<i> fill this void in a year or so, after enough new blood has joined the
+</I>&gt;<i> project so that no one remembers the MarCom team and it's charter ;)
+</I>
+I have to say: there's an awful lot of sense in what Bradley says. In
+effect, marcomm is being merged with artwork to help artwork - the
+reverse would seem not to be the case.
+
+For the most part, both teams are made up of enthusiastic amateurs;
+there aren't so many of us (I'm one, and Bradley's another - stick your
+hand up if this next bit applies to you - we could use your skills!) who
+have knowledge and experience of what marketing/PR/communication
+actually *is*, and can do them.
+
+That said, I think there's an opportunity in this merge for us to get
+and give a lot of skills; I've got a few notions about how that might
+be done, that I'd like to talk over with the team - maybe an informal
+IRC chat/meeting this week?
+
+I don't mind merging the mailing-lists, although if traffic increases,
+there could be quite a bit of confusion. I do suggest that we *don't*
+merge the irc channels - they're not only used for meetings, and it can
+be very good to have a separate place to do collaborative tasks.
+(Otherwise, we'll have to do everything on a piratepad.)
+
+Anyway, your Fearless Leader's 2c.
+
+Cheers!
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+Hopefully you're feeling completely recovered!
+
+&gt;<i> There's a few contact points I can add to the notification list. I'll
+</I>&gt;<i> dig those up over the next couple of weeks, and Trish, if you can
+</I>&gt;<i> shoot me on over any scraps of dangling release announcement copy to
+</I>&gt;<i> add to my scratch pad that would be nice to have as a reference too.
+</I>
+I don't have any copy, alas, but we need to get three general things
+started:
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+1. the Mageia blog post for release
+2. a generic release announcement/press release for distribution
+3. interviews with people who use Mageia, and/or solicited reviews -
+for these, we need to get together a list of the kinds of questions
+people would like answers to.
+
+Shall we get a piratepad going and start putting a skeleton together,
+some time in the next few days?
+
+If people can post their preferred times in UTC, we can get started.
+
+Cheers,
+
+
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+ <B>R&#233;mi Verschelde</B>
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+&gt;&gt;<i> There's a few contact points I can add to the notification list. I'll
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dig those up over the next couple of weeks, and Trish, if you can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shoot me on over any scraps of dangling release announcement copy to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> add to my scratch pad that would be nice to have as a reference too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't have any copy, alas, but we need to get three general things
+</I>&gt;<i> started:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. the Mageia blog post for release
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. a generic release announcement/press release for distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. interviews with people who use Mageia, and/or solicited reviews -
+</I>&gt;<i> for these, we need to get together a list of the kinds of questions
+</I>&gt;<i> people would like answers to.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+When it comes to setting deadlines for those three works of marcomm,
+please keep in mind that i18n would be glad to get the texts a day or
+two before the release (at least for point 1., I don't know if point
+2. will get localised, and we can afford some delay for point 3. I
+guess).
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+Regards,
+R&#233;mi / Akien
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+I mentioned I had some ideas I was working on and would present to the
+group. Well here are 2 of them
+
+1) a Planet feed for mageia users. Users blog about Mageia and
+interesting this as well, so why not have their own planet? Along with
+that is making sure all the packagers are on planet mageia - there have
+been many new ones added to the group but not added to the Planet. IMO,
+planets are a great way for people to follow along with whats going on
+in the community as a whole, who's doing what, or even to identify where
+problems may be. I think this gives a bit more of a sense of ownership
+to the average user as well. Any inputs on this? I assume this would
+have to be coordinated with the web team?
+
+2) Official titles for those who are evangelizing Mageia (Ubuntu has
+LoCo teams, Fedora has Ambassadors). We reply on our users to help get
+the word out, and they deserve something in return for this effort. I'm
+not sure how we decide what this looks like for us or how to determine
+what criteria need to be met (posting a review? submitting a news/blog
+post to a major news site?) So this idea is much less concretely formed
+and I'm open for any suggestions.
+
+The point of all of this is to work on community building. Yes, by using
+Mageia anyone is a member of the community. But adding something a bit
+more official to strive for I think only helps to strengthen the brand.
+I've worked in community building with several projects before, and the
+most successful ones always offer ways to become &quot;official&quot; members to
+regular users. I just see we are doing a great job in many areas but I
+think this one could be improved somewhat. Anyone have any other ideas,
+thoughts or comments?
+
+Thanks!
+Josh
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+
+Last year I was on a podcast for my first time, towards the end of
+September, when I went on one as a guest. It was a very general episode
+mentioning Mageia, Mandriva, Ubuntu, PC Linux OS, Gnome, KDE, and so
+on, that was rather long, with some music in it as well. It was a
+special episode that had been arranged with the hosts who I had already
+known on IRC for about two years or so. The other host wasn't in the
+episode.
+
+This was before I had joined any official Mageia teams and was thinking
+still about if I wanted to join any or not, such as marketing and QA.
+However just like now I was around on IRC a lot then and had IRC
+channels such as #mageia-uk and #mageia-social, and still got those now.
+I was also messaging quite a lot about Mageia on Identica although
+mainly to make sure that the news would show in the group (
+<A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A> ) as well, but sometimes about Mageia with
+people who were interested in it as well for example.
+
+I had also on IRC talked to one of the Mageia founders about going on
+the podcast with him at some stage a few times, and he agreed. This
+hasn't happened yet, but may happen in the future.
+
+Next time I go on this particular podcast I can go on as a proper
+official Mageia marketing team representative :), and they will have me
+on again no problem in the future :).
+
+It had been in the plans for me to be on it as a guest, for quite a long
+time before I did go on it. I have listened to all of their episodes so
+far including the test episode. However it has been quite a while since
+they last had one, because the other host is busy with other things a
+lot at the moment.
+
+I know someone from Identica who has a podcast where he mentioned Mageia
+1 in his first and second episode for example a bit. He was going to
+review it, but then Grub issues.
+
+I asked him last week if I could go on it as a guest to talk about
+Mageia and he suggested doing a pre recorded message for a 3rd of May
+episode of his podcast.
+<A HREF="http://identi.ca/notice/91893908">http://identi.ca/notice/91893908</A> <A HREF="http://identi.ca/conversation/91624243">http://identi.ca/conversation/91624243</A>
+
+More recently he also does a podcast with someone who used to be on the
+one I was a guest on, a lot for about a year or so. The one I went on as
+a guest for my very first time on a podcast.
+
+I asked him last week if I could go on his podcast and no problem. I
+mentioned adding it to our WIKI, and he suggested mentioning it being
+NSFW. Not Safe For Work as in for example contains swearing sometimes.
+
+if I am going to guest on it talking officially about Mageia I will
+request that the episode is kept SFW Safe For Work first.
+
+I guess it doesn't really matter if normally a podcast usually has
+swearing in it for example, that I may later go on as an official Mageia
+spokes person. When it comes to telling people about the episode, or in
+the case of the WIKI about the podcast in general? Other than for
+example probably mentioning something about the swearing? What are your
+thoughts about this? What do you think? This is the main reason for
+this email message to find that out.
+
+As for podcast contents when on them talking officially about Mageia,
+what do you think should be mentioned?
+
+&gt;<i>From Sebastian
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+
+Been recently thinking about it again how I shouldn't need to resend (re
+dent) Mageia news to the Mageia group on Identica, or make my own
+messages with the news instead to the group, because the Mageia account
+should be sending to it in the first place and ideally the tag as well.
+<A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A> <A HREF="http://identi.ca/mageia">http://identi.ca/mageia</A>
+<A HREF="http://identi.ca/tag/mageia">http://identi.ca/tag/mageia</A>
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+Last year for example when mentioning the Identica issue on IRC at
+times, there was a time when I was told to contact the marketing
+mailing list about it. Something that I didn't bother to do at the time.
+
+I think that the news should go to where it is meant to on, Twitter,
+Facebook, and Identica, but also other sites such as Google+.
+
+With another program news can be sent from Diaspora which like Identica
+is a open social networking site. News can be sent from Diaspora to
+Identica, and then from Identica to Twitter. Then I think some how
+news can be sent directly from Twitter to Facebook as well. Twitter does
+not have an official way to send to Identica.
+
+The current way of sending the news has not been working that well for a
+long time now, and it would be great if this issue can be finally
+properly sorted out.
+
+I am rather used to my work around sending the news myself to Identica's
+Mageia group and tag, but this is still an issue that I think should be
+properly sorted out. Not that long ago I also sent some myself to Diaspora.
+
+There is also someone who it seems wants to promote Mageia more on
+Diaspora, but it seems that many of those messages will also go to other
+sites as well such as Identica and Twitter.
+
+In the past the Mageia account has sent to the Mageia group, but very
+rarely.
+
+Just being a bit more clear Identica has a bridge to Twitter it will
+even convert ! to #. ! is used to send to the !mageia group for
+example and # is used to send to the tag.
+
+When I re dent news I make sure it gets sent to both the group and tag.
+In the past on Identica ! would send to the tag as well, but that hasn't
+been the case since when the site got re designed last year and new
+features got added.
+
+We should also be taking all of the social networking sites seriously
+where Mageia has a presence, and so really Identica should still be
+mentioned on the site as well for example.
+
+Before Mageia 1 Identica and Twitter were both mentioned on
+<A HREF="http://magiea.org,">http://magiea.org,</A> but then Magiea 1 got released and Identica stopped
+being mentioned.
+
+I hope that this message makes enough sense, but if not I can try and
+explain better later on
+
+I would also like to become an admin of the Mageia Identica group, so
+that I can deal with any fake accounts for example.
+
+For a long time the Mageia group on Identica didn't even have a display
+picture, even though the Mageia account had a logo for quite a while.I
+had even been in communication on Identica with people who were
+wondering about that before.
+
+One day suddenly the group had the logo, and someone else had been made
+an admin of the group, I assume it was them who uploaded the logo as
+well. I contacted them about how they had been made admin, but only to
+get a reply I hadn't been expecting. I later found the Identica
+conversation that they had with @support requesting to become an admin
+of that group..
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+Trish and myself both think that we should as a team prepare a message
+that can be sent to the Mageia discuss and announce mailing lists, to
+attract new/potential contributors to Mageia's teams such as marketing
+and artwork. If you have any suggestions for this, please do send them
+to this mailing list.
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+The message could also go on the forum some where.
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+
+A planet is a good idea, but well Mageia already has planets and in
+different languages as well, however your email reminded me about that :).
+
+I don't see a planet link on the main website though, and there should
+be one really.
+
+<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/02/18/a-new-planet-had-been-discovered/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/02/18/a-new-planet-had-been-discovered/</A>
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+Indeed at point 2 and Oliver Burger (aka obgr_seneca) took part in a
+discussion at FOSDEM 2012 (
+<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/02/19/mageia-at-fosdem-2012/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/02/19/mageia-at-fosdem-2012/</A> ) about
+local communites and so on. I highly recommend that you watch the video
+if you haven't already seen it:
+<A HREF="http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm">http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm</A>
+
+Much more recently Oliver has also started a WIKI page about local
+communities: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities</A>
+
+I have also emailed about the IRC cloaks and @mageia.org email
+addresses. For the IRC cloaks this still needs sorting out with
+Freenode. For the @mageia.org email addresses it seems to be up to the
+leaders of the remaining teams that don't have them, to get it sorted out:
+
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120228/006610.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120228/006610.html</A>
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+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120304/006628.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120304/006628.html</A>
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+
+On 19/03/12 20:06, Josh King wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hey all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I mentioned I had some ideas I was working on and would present to the
+</I>&gt;<i> group. Well here are 2 of them
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) a Planet feed for mageia users. Users blog about Mageia and
+</I>&gt;<i> interesting this as well, so why not have their own planet? Along with
+</I>&gt;<i> that is making sure all the packagers are on planet mageia - there
+</I>&gt;<i> have been many new ones added to the group but not added to the
+</I>&gt;<i> Planet. IMO, planets are a great way for people to follow along with
+</I>&gt;<i> whats going on in the community as a whole, who's doing what, or even
+</I>&gt;<i> to identify where problems may be. I think this gives a bit more of a
+</I>&gt;<i> sense of ownership to the average user as well. Any inputs on this? I
+</I>&gt;<i> assume this would have to be coordinated with the web team?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) Official titles for those who are evangelizing Mageia (Ubuntu has
+</I>&gt;<i> LoCo teams, Fedora has Ambassadors). We reply on our users to help get
+</I>&gt;<i> the word out, and they deserve something in return for this effort.
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure how we decide what this looks like for us or how to
+</I>&gt;<i> determine what criteria need to be met (posting a review? submitting a
+</I>&gt;<i> news/blog post to a major news site?) So this idea is much less
+</I>&gt;<i> concretely formed and I'm open for any suggestions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The point of all of this is to work on community building. Yes, by
+</I>&gt;<i> using Mageia anyone is a member of the community. But adding something
+</I>&gt;<i> a bit more official to strive for I think only helps to strengthen the
+</I>&gt;<i> brand. I've worked in community building with several projects before,
+</I>&gt;<i> and the most successful ones always offer ways to become &quot;official&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> members to regular users. I just see we are doing a great job in many
+</I>&gt;<i> areas but I think this one could be improved somewhat. Anyone have any
+</I>&gt;<i> other ideas, thoughts or comments?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+<PRE>Hi folks,
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+Could I ask everyone please: don't top-post replies to the list?
+
+As of today, I won't be doing it any more; I've always hated it, and
+I'm done putting up with it; I'll be trimming your replies to me
+ruthlessly and answering inline, and I'll explain why I'd like all of
+the marcom team to follow suit.
+
+What's wrong with top-posting?
+
+ * It makes messages difficult to read when the answer comes before the
+ question - this is important not only to the original poster and
+ the responder, but to everyone else on the list. Not all of us are
+ native English speakers; we have to be clear and keep the extra
+ waffle to a minimum.
+
+ * It means the top-poster is less likely to trim (this does matter.
+ There are still many people around the world stuck on dialup with
+ very low data quotas), and subsequent top-posters are then also less
+ likely to trim;
+
+ * It's going to be seen as rude on plenty of mailing lists, which is
+ absolutely not how we want people to see Mageia's marketing reps.
+
+Please post your replies in-line, underneath the point you're
+replying to, and trim any parts of the original message(s) that you
+aren't replying to.
+
+Here's more info on the topic:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/gey_stv0.htm">http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/gey_stv0.htm</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost">http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html">http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html">http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html</A>
+
+Some older than others - all useful.
+
+Cheers!
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+Patricia Fraser wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could I ask everyone please: don't top-post replies to the list?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As of today, I won't be doing it any more; I've always hated it, and
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm done putting up with it; I'll be trimming your replies to me
+</I>&gt;<i> ruthlessly and answering inline, and I'll explain why I'd like all of
+</I>&gt;<i> the marcom team to follow suit.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What's wrong with top-posting?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * It makes messages difficult to read when the answer comes before the
+</I>&gt;<i> question - this is important not only to the original poster and
+</I>&gt;<i> the responder, but to everyone else on the list. Not all of us are
+</I>&gt;<i> native English speakers; we have to be clear and keep the extra
+</I>&gt;<i> waffle to a minimum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * It means the top-poster is less likely to trim (this does matter.
+</I>&gt;<i> There are still many people around the world stuck on dialup with
+</I>&gt;<i> very low data quotas), and subsequent top-posters are then also less
+</I>&gt;<i> likely to trim;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * It's going to be seen as rude on plenty of mailing lists, which is
+</I>&gt;<i> absolutely not how we want people to see Mageia's marketing reps.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please post your replies in-line, underneath the point you're
+</I>&gt;<i> replying to, and trim any parts of the original message(s) that you
+</I>&gt;<i> aren't replying to.
+</I>
+And please, to improve readability _do_ leave an empty line between your
+contribution and any preceding or following segment, it makes it so much
+easier to pick out new parts in inline postings.
+
+John NZ
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+<PRE>On 03/20/2012 12:21 AM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Josh
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A planet is a good idea, but well Mageia already has planets and in
+</I>&gt;<i> different languages as well, however your email reminded me about that :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't see a planet link on the main website though, and there should
+</I>&gt;<i> be one really.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/02/18/a-new-planet-had-been-discovered/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/02/18/a-new-planet-had-been-discovered/</A>
+</I>
+We have planets, but most seem to be rarely posted to, giving them
+impression they're dead or not much going on with Mageia. Broadening
+that to include all devs and users (even if on a separate planet feed)
+would lead to a much livelier appearance. Other major distros combine
+languages, why shouldn't we? Who do I need to approach about making this
+happen? If nothing else, I can set it up and host it myself if it's a
+question of time/resources.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed at point 2 and Oliver Burger (aka obgr_seneca) took part in a
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion at FOSDEM 2012 (
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/02/19/mageia-at-fosdem-2012/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/02/19/mageia-at-fosdem-2012/</A> ) about
+</I>&gt;<i> local communites and so on. I highly recommend that you watch the video
+</I>&gt;<i> if you haven't already seen it:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm">http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm</A>
+</I>
+Cheers! I'll give the video a watch. I don't know that my area has
+enough mass for a LoCo style team though :-(
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Much more recently Oliver has also started a WIKI page about local
+</I>&gt;<i> communities: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Working_with_local_communities</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have also emailed about the IRC cloaks and @mageia.org email
+</I>&gt;<i> addresses. For the IRC cloaks this still needs sorting out with
+</I>&gt;<i> Freenode. For the @mageia.org email addresses it seems to be up to the
+</I>&gt;<i> leaders of the remaining teams that don't have them, to get it sorted out:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120228/006610.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120228/006610.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120304/006627.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120304/006627.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120304/006628.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20120304/006628.html</A>
+</I>
+The @mageia.org emails would be nice to have even as an alias. But I
+agree some sort of guidelines need to be established to control who gets
+them.
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+<PRE>Hi Josh
+
+In the blog post I gave you the link for some people had requested
+their blogs to be added to planets. Email Damien (aka coincoin) about
+them: dams @mageia.org
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/02/18/a-new-planet-had-been-discovered/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/02/18/a-new-planet-had-been-discovered/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+As for adding users to the planets I agree, as long as they aren't
+posting bad stuff. With Ubuntu they have only Ubuntu Community Members
+in their planet as far as I know and no one else. <A HREF="http://planet.ubuntu.com">http://planet.ubuntu.com</A>
+&gt;<i> I don't know that my area has enough mass for a LoCo style team though
+</I>&gt;<i> :-(
+</I>Of course you can start something for your local area or country, even
+if it just starts off as a IRC channel like I have done with #mageia-uk.
+As for how many people there are or aren't, that doesn't matter that
+much to begin with, just go for it and start something if you would like
+to :).
+
+There are only a few people from the UK that are interested in Mageia at
+the moment that I know about, but I expect we will start to have quite a
+few more when Mageia 2 comes out :). There are already quite a few
+people from the USA who are interested in Mageia as well that I know
+about, and quite a few of them come to my #mageia-social IRC channel.
+
+You may also have a Linux Users Group (LUG) in your area, that you can
+go to and try and gain some interest in Mageia, like I will probably be
+doing this Saturday.
+
+This Saturday I am probably going to a pub to go to a LUG for my first
+time :). It was going to be last month, but then some issues with trying
+to get there. It turned out people were turning up at different times
+any way and not that many, so there wasn't a proper meeting.
+
+I'll go to the city to the LUG to meet some other Linux users in person
+for a first time from this area, wearing one of my black FOSDEM 2011 t
+shirts, that I bought when going to my first opensource/freesoftware
+event this year FOSDEM 2012 :). I'll also have some Gnome and KDE,
+Mageia 1 Live CD's to give out from this year's FOSDEM, and I'll bring
+some other LInux stuff with me as well.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+
+P.S
+
+After sending my previous reply, and reading your email again, I
+realised that you already knew that Mageia had a planet.
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+
+Earlier Tumberlina linked me to the website for a free ebook that by the
+looks of it after downloading and opening, we should all read properly:
+<A HREF="http://www.strategyofgiving.com/">http://www.strategyofgiving.com/</A>
+
+Tumberlina's link reminded me of The Art of Community by Jono Bacon the
+Ubuntu community manager. I have known about it for a rather long time,
+and finally decided to download it earlier :).
+
+Last year when I already knew about it as well for a year or two or so,
+someone that came to #mageia-social or maybe #mageia-uk instead,
+suggested I read it. They thought it would be a good idea for anyone who
+is involved with a Linux distribution community like we are to read it.
+
+<A HREF="http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/">http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/09/18/the-art-of-community-available-for-free-download/">http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/09/18/the-art-of-community-available-for-free-download/</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/01/14/the-art-of-community/">http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/01/14/the-art-of-community/</A>
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+<PRE>Hi guys,
+
+Hope it's ok to jump in here. This is about Mageia social marketing,
+after reading SebSebSeb's comments (and others)!
+
+
+
+To be successful, the following points should be considered:
+
+
+
+
+1) Form an intelligent, efficient social marketing strategy.
+
+And make sure everyone knows it and sticks to it!
+
+
+
+2) Have a presence on Twitter/Facebook/G+/identi.ca/Diaspora
+
+ONLY do this so people can find Mageia on these networks and be brought
+to the main Mageia site (or planet).
+
+Think about these networks as PIECES of a social network strategy. Each
+is a small but vital service to the Mageia community... but it's the
+OVERALL strategy that is important. Focusing too much on just one
+service is not good use of resources!
+
+
+
+3) Use media wisely.
+
+In all honesty, the best use of time and energy is connecting with
+magazines and high-profile blogs, building relationships with them and
+letting THEM promote Mageia to their EXISTING followers! (These
+followers will spread the news on all the various social networks. Let
+them use time and energy for this purpose.)
+
+That's the smart, professional approach and it's far more efficient than
+trying to gather followers or spit out news at random on different sites
+and networks.
+
+
+
+4) Maintain strong brand guidelines.
+
+All successful brands control their identity firmly.
+e.g: <A HREF="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/brand/identity/">https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/brand/identity/</A>
+
+Mageia has a fantastic brand (name and icon are excellent) but it must
+be protected and cared for. It is never too soon to care about this!!!
+
+For example: the identi.ca group icon is just a black cauldron, not the
+usual blue Mageia icon. This makes the group seem fake - or at least not
+part of Mageia. Little details like this dilute the brand over time.
+Someone should have noticed and cared to put this right!
+
+
+
+
+
+BRIEF SOCIAL NETWORK ANALYSIS
+
+
+Twitter, Facebook and Google+ :
+
+Tainted but necessary promotional tools. They should be used to
+broadcast news and events and gather followers, simply because they are
+mass mediums. Mageia needs exposure to a wider audience and should focus
+on these proprietory channels. These channels excel at connecting people
+to brands, quickly, directly and easily. People expect this!
+
+
+Identi.ca:
+
+isn't the same thing. The users there are more Linux/FLOSS oriented and
+they can smell promotions a mile off. It seems hard to break into the
+community in a meaningful way and the tools to do so are lacking -- the
+Android apps, for example, are frustrating and nearly useless. Identi.ca
+users will, however, promote news among themselves if they find it in
+the mainstream. We should take identi.ca seriously but not over-spend
+energy on it. The number of users is small compared to FB/G+/Twitter. A
+gentle push from time to time on identi.ca (like Seb is doing
+brilliantly) is enough to keep awareness raised.
+
+
+Disapora:
+
+Again, it's not mainstream and users are not there for official
+promotions or to &quot;follow&quot; their favourite brands. They seem very warm
+and welcoming and the users of various distros seem to get along very
+well together. It definitely merits some promotion of Mageia but will
+not bring many users to Mageia. The users it does bring will be loyal
+and enthusiastic though!
+
+
+
+
+
+Thanks for reading. Hope that helps move the conversation forward!
+
+
+loqo,
+new Mageia contributor
+
+About me: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/User:Loqo">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/User:Loqo</A>
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+&gt;<i> Hi Josh
+</I>&gt;<i> As for adding users to the planets I agree, as long as they aren't
+</I>&gt;<i> posting bad stuff. With Ubuntu they have only Ubuntu Community Members
+</I>&gt;<i> in their planet as far as I know and no one else.
+</I>
+Agreed, some kind of code of conduct would have to be followed. Perhaps
+this is one more reason to start it as a separate entity. Leave the
+devs/official members on planet mageia and put users on planet mageia
+users. In time the two could be combined if it works well. This is
+something I'm willing to undertake and host myself unless there are
+objections to it?
+
+<A HREF="http://planet.ubuntu.com">http://planet.ubuntu.com</A>
+&gt;&gt;<i> I don't know that my area has enough mass for a LoCo style team though
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> :-(
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course you can start something for your local area or country, even
+</I>&gt;<i> if it just starts off as a IRC channel like I have done with #mageia-uk.
+</I>&gt;<i> As for how many people there are or aren't, that doesn't matter that
+</I>&gt;<i> much to begin with, just go for it and start something if you would like
+</I>&gt;<i> to :).
+</I>
+The IRC channel might be a good start
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are only a few people from the UK that are interested in Mageia at
+</I>&gt;<i> the moment that I know about, but I expect we will start to have quite a
+</I>&gt;<i> few more when Mageia 2 comes out :). There are already quite a few
+</I>&gt;<i> people from the USA who are interested in Mageia as well that I know
+</I>&gt;<i> about, and quite a few of them come to my #mageia-social IRC channel.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You may also have a Linux Users Group (LUG) in your area, that you can
+</I>&gt;<i> go to and try and gain some interest in Mageia, like I will probably be
+</I>&gt;<i> doing this Saturday.
+</I>
+Well we have a LUG technically, but it rarely meets and is usually 1-2
+people at most. It might be worth revisiting to start one up again.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This Saturday I am probably going to a pub to go to a LUG for my first
+</I>&gt;<i> time :). It was going to be last month, but then some issues with trying
+</I>&gt;<i> to get there. It turned out people were turning up at different times
+</I>&gt;<i> any way and not that many, so there wasn't a proper meeting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll go to the city to the LUG to meet some other Linux users in person
+</I>&gt;<i> for a first time from this area, wearing one of my black FOSDEM 2011 t
+</I>&gt;<i> shirts, that I bought when going to my first opensource/freesoftware
+</I>&gt;<i> event this year FOSDEM 2012 :). I'll also have some Gnome and KDE,
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1 Live CD's to give out from this year's FOSDEM, and I'll bring
+</I>&gt;<i> some other LInux stuff with me as well.
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Hello fellow team members
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Earlier Tumberlina linked me to the website for a free ebook that by the
+</I>&gt;<i> looks of it after downloading and opening, we should all read properly:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.strategyofgiving.com/">http://www.strategyofgiving.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Tumberlina's link reminded me of The Art of Community by Jono Bacon the
+</I>&gt;<i> Ubuntu community manager. I have known about it for a rather long time,
+</I>&gt;<i> and finally decided to download it earlier :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Last year when I already knew about it as well for a year or two or so,
+</I>&gt;<i> someone that came to #mageia-social or maybe #mageia-uk instead,
+</I>&gt;<i> suggested I read it. They thought it would be a good idea for anyone who
+</I>&gt;<i> is involved with a Linux distribution community like we are to read it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/">http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/09/18/the-art-of-community-available-for-free-download/">http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/09/18/the-art-of-community-available-for-free-download/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks! Good tips, just loaded The Art of Community on my Kindle
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+&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hope it's ok to jump in here. This is about Mageia social marketing,
+</I>&gt;<i> after reading SebSebSeb's comments (and others)!
+</I>Yep it was fine to jump in :). Also I forgot that I had recentlyish got
+you to join some of the Mageia mailing lists.
+
+I think you sent a rather good message :).
+
+When you join teams it's a good idea to introduce yourself first on the
+mailing list, why you want to be on that team and that kind of thing,
+and I think I forgot to tell you this before.
+
+You do have a rather good wiki page about yourself though :), as I
+already knew.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> About me: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/User:Loqo">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/User:Loqo</A>
+</I>
+Any way welcome to the Mageia marketing and communications team :).
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<PRE>Hi Josh
+&gt;<i> Agreed, some kind of code of conduct would have to be followed.
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps this is one more reason to start it as a separate entity.
+</I>&gt;<i> Leave the devs/official members on planet mageia and put users on
+</I>&gt;<i> planet mageia users. In time the two could be combined if it works
+</I>&gt;<i> well. This is something I'm willing to undertake and host myself
+</I>&gt;<i> unless there are objections to it?
+</I>Yep that could be quite a good idea having a separate planet for just
+users. As for a code of conduct well Mageia has already had one for
+nearly a year and half or something like that:
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/</A>
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+Yes starting a Mageia IRC channel for your area, state, or even the
+whole of the USA could be a good idea. However at this time it would be
+like #mageia-uk I expect with not that many people using it. Plus when
+it comes to IRC at the moment I got most or all of the people from USA
+who would probably be quite interested in a channel for the USA later
+on, as users of #mageia-social.
+
+One reason I started #mageia-social when I did was, because I wanted to
+build up a general chat community type building channel, with users
+using the channel quite a lot of the time. With hardly any UK users at
+the moment, much easier to do it for the wider Mageia users community.
+
+In September 2010 and October 2010 and that kind of time, I did have
+quite a bit of interest in the UK channel, but then lost it over time.
+Trish used to even come to it sometimes and JohnR for example. When
+Mageia 2 comes out and we start gaining more users to the distro, like
+now I will be building up #mageia-social ,but I will also start building
+up #magiea-uk again as well.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well we have a LUG technically, but it rarely meets and is usually 1-2
+</I>&gt;<i> people at most. It might be worth revisiting to start one up again.
+</I>The one I am going to be going to, for some reason doesn't have a proper
+website at the moment, but I think it has had before, and so it's mainly
+a mailing list. However meeting's are meant to be on the fourth Saturday
+of each month, but going by the mailing list it seems to be only a few
+guys going to them at the moment.
+&gt;<i> Awesome! Good luck!!
+</I>
+Thanks :).
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+&gt;<i> Hi Josh
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep that could be quite a good idea having a separate planet for just
+</I>&gt;<i> users. As for a code of conduct well Mageia has already had one for
+</I>&gt;<i> nearly a year and half or something like that:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/</A>
+</I>
+Maybe I can find some time to get something up and running this weekend
+then. Just didn't want to step on any toes by diving in and doing it.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes starting a Mageia IRC channel for your area, state, or even the
+</I>&gt;<i> whole of the USA could be a good idea. However at this time it would be
+</I>&gt;<i> like #mageia-uk I expect with not that many people using it. Plus when
+</I>&gt;<i> it comes to IRC at the moment I got most or all of the people from USA
+</I>&gt;<i> who would probably be quite interested in a channel for the USA later
+</I>&gt;<i> on, as users of #mageia-social.
+</I>
+I Like #mageia-social; at some point a USA channel may be ok, but 2
+English speaking channels seems a little overkill for now IMO.
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+</I>Ok awesome :)!
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+</I>
+I need to. For tonight it's bed time for this guy :-)
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+</I>Ok good night.
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+ <B>loqo</B>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When you join teams it's a good idea to introduce yourself first on
+</I>&gt;<i> the mailing list, why you want to be on that team and that kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> thing, and I think I forgot to tell you this before.
+</I>
+
+
+My sincere apologies for poor (n)etiquette! I didn't want to add too
+much extra talk to the main conversation, hence using the &quot;about me&quot; link.
+
+For those too busy to read my bio, I'm &quot;loqo&quot;, a 39 year old
+professional game developer from the UK. I have plenty of useful
+experience to offer and I'm 100% committed to helping Mageia. I would
+like to do so with official blessing! ;)
+
+I run version 1 on my production machine for ALL my computing tasks and
+I will continue to do so when v2 is stable. I'm promoting Mageia
+wherever possible and I plan to start a dedicated Mageia games interest
+group. I've already started researching/planning it.
+
+Hopefully I bring cool and clear thinking to the table. I'm creative and
+logical, which is a good mix. I'm very keen to learn (where my knowledge
+is lacking) and I'm very keen to give advice (where I have knowledge).
+Please make use of me if it helps!
+
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My sincere apologies for poor (n)etiquette! I didn't want to add too
+</I>&gt;<i> much extra talk to the main conversation, hence using the &quot;about me&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> link.
+</I>That email was fine :). It was a suggestion to do a introduction and I
+meant in another email to the mailing list, but you have done that now :).
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+How great to see all this energy in the team - brilliant!
+
+It's on the calendar that it's artwork's meeting tomorrow; I've just
+emailed their list to check and to check the time. If it is on, anyone
+who will be online from marcom should please attend - they're re-doing
+the install screens artwork from scratch, and hopefully there will be
+something ready for us to comment on/help with. Check their list and
+their last meeting logs for links to the older artwork that's not going
+to be used.
+
+I know it's not our meeting week but (depending on what time it is):
+
+While we're supporting them, we might also have a bit of a chat on the
+mageia-marcom channel, about what we've really *got* to do before
+release, who will do what and by when.
+
+We could also discuss seb's forthcoming podcasting career - will we
+write stuff up for him to remember to say? And the community stuff and
+the planet - what sort of timeline are we looking to work to?
+
+Don't forget also to check and USE the marcom wiki page and the sandbox
+- they're kind of out of date now, and could use a good cleanup; don't
+forget we can revert changes if we want to.
+
+If the artwork meeting is any earlier than 07:00 Australian time (20:00
+UTC), don't look for me! I'll go online at about 20:00 and see who's
+around. If you're meeting and I'm not there, run #startmeeting to get
+the meetbot going, and #endmeeting to close the logs and save them.
+
+Just FYI, all the meeting logs for all the teams are here:
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/">http://meetbot.mageia.org/</A>
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
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+Wed Mar 21 20:46:13 EST 2012
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+ <B>Josh King</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How great to see all this energy in the team - brilliant!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's on the calendar that it's artwork's meeting tomorrow; I've just
+</I>&gt;<i> emailed their list to check and to check the time. If it is on, anyone
+</I>&gt;<i> who will be online from marcom should please attend - they're re-doing
+</I>&gt;<i> the install screens artwork from scratch, and hopefully there will be
+</I>&gt;<i> something ready for us to comment on/help with. Check their list and
+</I>&gt;<i> their last meeting logs for links to the older artwork that's not going
+</I>&gt;<i> to be used.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know it's not our meeting week but (depending on what time it is):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While we're supporting them, we might also have a bit of a chat on the
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-marcom channel, about what we've really *got* to do before
+</I>&gt;<i> release, who will do what and by when.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We could also discuss seb's forthcoming podcasting career - will we
+</I>&gt;<i> write stuff up for him to remember to say? And the community stuff and
+</I>&gt;<i> the planet - what sort of timeline are we looking to work to?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't forget also to check and USE the marcom wiki page and the sandbox
+</I>&gt;<i> - they're kind of out of date now, and could use a good cleanup; don't
+</I>&gt;<i> forget we can revert changes if we want to.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If the artwork meeting is any earlier than 07:00 Australian time (20:00
+</I>&gt;<i> UTC), don't look for me! I'll go online at about 20:00 and see who's
+</I>&gt;<i> around. If you're meeting and I'm not there, run #startmeeting to get
+</I>&gt;<i> the meetbot going, and #endmeeting to close the logs and save them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just FYI, all the meeting logs for all the teams are here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/">http://meetbot.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>
+I'd love to be able to make it. Once you find a time, please let us know
+
+Thanks!
+
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>Right going by the emails to the marketing and artwork mailing lists it
+seems we need to agree on a time for this evening's meeting in
+#mageia-artwork. I think 9pm UTC/GMT is a good time. At that time Max
+should be able to make it, but also Trish, and Tumberlina, and I think
+Josh as well.
+
+So a meeting in about two hours and a half I guess :).
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+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+ <B>Josh King (dotmil)</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How great to see all this energy in the team - brilliant!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's on the calendar that it's artwork's meeting tomorrow; I've just
+</I>&gt;<i> emailed their list to check and to check the time. If it is on, anyone
+</I>&gt;<i> who will be online from marcom should please attend - they're re-doing
+</I>&gt;<i> the install screens artwork from scratch, and hopefully there will be
+</I>&gt;<i> something ready for us to comment on/help with. Check their list and
+</I>&gt;<i> their last meeting logs for links to the older artwork that's not going
+</I>&gt;<i> to be used.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know it's not our meeting week but (depending on what time it is):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While we're supporting them, we might also have a bit of a chat on the
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-marcom channel, about what we've really *got* to do before
+</I>&gt;<i> release, who will do what and by when.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We could also discuss seb's forthcoming podcasting career - will we
+</I>&gt;<i> write stuff up for him to remember to say? And the community stuff and
+</I>&gt;<i> the planet - what sort of timeline are we looking to work to?
+</I>
+For the user's planet I have a basic mockup in place already. You can
+see it at <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org.">http://mageiapeople.org.</A> It should be ready to go by This
+weekend and could actually begin adding feeds now. The biggest challenge
+is going to be getting the word out. I'm hoping the rest of marcom can
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+&gt;<i> Right going by the emails to the marketing and artwork mailing lists it
+</I>&gt;<i> seems we need to agree on a time for this evening's meeting in
+</I>&gt;<i> #mageia-artwork. I think 9pm UTC/GMT is a good time. At that time Max
+</I>&gt;<i> should be able to make it, but also Trish, and Tumberlina, and I think
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So a meeting in about two hours and a half I guess :).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+Hey! One I can actually make! Looking forward to it. It is in
+#mageia-artwork correct?
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+&gt;<i> Hey! One I can actually make! Looking forward to it. It is in
+</I>&gt;<i> #mageia-artwork correct?
+</I>Well that's the time I am suggesting, because that's when Max will
+probably be about. Trish may want to go to work then, but main thing is
+to have this meeting with Max I think.
+
+Also Trish could probably be there at the beginning and then leave after
+a bit. Any way she will probably be active on the mailing lists again soon.
+
+At the moment none of the main artwork people seem to be about.
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+Also yep that's the channel.
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+I think that planets site looks ok as a start. Half an hour or so ago I
+was chatiting to errac in #mageia-social about adding his blog to your
+planet, and you can go and do that: <A HREF="http://blog.eracc.com">http://blog.eracc.com</A>
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+There's also another guy who will probably want his blog mentioned
+there, but it seems he will contact me about that first.
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+&gt;<i> Hi Josh
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that planets site looks ok as a start. Half an hour or so ago I
+</I>&gt;<i> was chatiting to errac in #mageia-social about adding his blog to your
+</I>&gt;<i> planet, and you can go and do that: <A HREF="http://blog.eracc.com">http://blog.eracc.com</A>
+</I>Yeah I made it with the defaults as with the Planet Mageia blog but it
+seems a bit plain. Design isn't my strong suit so it will take some time
+to get it looking better. And His blog has been added now.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's also another guy who will probably want his blog mentioned
+</I>&gt;<i> there, but it seems he will contact me about that first.
+</I>
+Anyone wanting theirs added can also email <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">admin at mageiapeople.org</A> and I
+can take it from there.
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+about 25 minutes.
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+I have a basic install of moonmoon set up and running on
+<A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org.">http://mageiapeople.org.</A> I plan to do some design work this weekend so
+it's not so, well, boring looking.
+
+I would appreciate any inputs on design/look of the site or even a sweet
+template for moonmoon. Also, I *really* need help getting the word out
+that people can have their blogs added, even if the blog isn't 100%
+Mageia postings. We like to see the people behind the blogs as well.
+
+To have a blog added, the only requirements are that they must follow
+the Code of Conduct and send the URL to <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">admin at mageiapeople.org</A>, then
+I'll get it added. Once it's up and running more I'd also like a second
+person to act as co-administrator with me. I want this to be a community
+project, not run by a dictator.
+
+Any other thoughts, comments, or suggestions are welcome!
+
+Thanks!
+Josh
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+
+I was wondering about this before, and your message has reminded me.
+You could add my Identica to it :) some how: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/sebsebseb">http://identi.ca/sebsebseb</A>
+So that it will show my new messages on your site :). However with
+Identica it's about context when getting replies and people should be
+able to get onto the link for that easily as well in that case.
+
+Any way Identica has RSS feeds for example.
+
+I also think it's a very good idea to add the Identica Mageia group as
+well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+
+
+I suggest sending a email to the Mageia discuss mailing list about your
+users planet website, and also starting a thread on the forum about it.
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+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<PRE>On 03/22/2012 08:07 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Josh
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was wondering about this before, and your message has reminded me. You
+</I>&gt;<i> could add my Identica to it :) some how: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/sebsebseb">http://identi.ca/sebsebseb</A> So
+</I>&gt;<i> that it will show my new messages on your site :). However with Identica
+</I>&gt;<i> it's about context when getting replies and people should be able to get
+</I>&gt;<i> onto the link for that easily as well in that case.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any way Identica has RSS feeds for example.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I also think it's a very good idea to add the Identica Mageia group as
+</I>&gt;<i> well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+</I>
+Both have been added. I will likely post to the mailing list and forum,
+just want to get the look down the way I want it a little more. BTW, is
+there someplace that has a copy of the official Logo that is in svg or
+at least resizable format?
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+Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
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+
+It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
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+<PRE>Ok thanks for adding my Identica and the Mageia group, however I just
+sent a dent/message quite recently and it's not appearing on
+<A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> yet. Any idea why that is?
+
+Also in the future may want to have both blogs and microblogging, but a
+bit seperate. Since if there's to much microblogging the blog posts
+will disappear much quicker.
+
+People (5) may want to change that to something such as RSS's, because
+for example someone may end up on more than one of those, well that
+already happens when I send to the group for example.
+
+Also can you get it saying sebsebseb instead of Anoymous for my Identica?
+
+Also maybe there's a way for you to get it to link to context as well
+for dents, for example:
+<A HREF="http://identi.ca/conversation/91825979#notice-92107063">http://identi.ca/conversation/91825979#notice-92107063</A>
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+Instead of having the message without the links as the heading, maybe it
+would be better to link to the notice for example:
+<A HREF="http://identi.ca/notice/92107063">http://identi.ca/notice/92107063</A>
+
+Decided to send this anyway, but since you turned up in #mageia-social
+rather recently, we can chat about it there instead :).
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+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+&gt;<i> Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+</I>&gt;<i> Facebook, etc.
+</I>
+The Mageia group should be there as well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+
+The Mageia account <A HREF="http://identi.ca/mageia">http://identi.ca/mageia</A> should always send the news
+to the group as well! Using !Mageia or with the lower cased letter
+!mageia instead, and this is an issue I have wanted sorted out for over
+a year, but it still hasn't been solved.
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+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+&gt;<i> Loqo typed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Facebook, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The Mageia group should be there as well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The Mageia account <A HREF="http://identi.ca/mageia">http://identi.ca/mageia</A> should always send the news
+</I>&gt;<i> to the group as well! Using !Mageia or with the lower cased letter
+</I>&gt;<i> !mageia instead, and this is an issue I have wanted sorted out for over
+</I>&gt;<i> a year, but it still hasn't been solved.
+</I>
+Maybe open these as a bug request with the web team? Thats what I've
+done in the past
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+&gt;<i> On 03/22/2012 09:41 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Loqo typed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Facebook, etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The Mageia group should be there as well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The Mageia account <A HREF="http://identi.ca/mageia">http://identi.ca/mageia</A> should always send the news
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to the group as well! Using !Mageia or with the lower cased letter
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> !mageia instead, and this is an issue I have wanted sorted out for over
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a year, but it still hasn't been solved.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe open these as a bug request with the web team? Thats what I've
+</I>&gt;<i> done in the past
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>I have been on the webteam mailing list for quite awhile, but not sent
+an email there yet, as of typing, but this will be my first.
+
+When I mentioned the Identica issue on IRC before last year, I was
+suggested to go to the marketing team mailing list or web team. Already
+done so with the marketing and that's not got the issue solved, but
+hopefully sending this email to the webteam mailing list will help.
+
+More information regarding Mageia and social networking sites:
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-marketing/2012-March/000667.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-marketing/2012-March/000667.html</A>
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+&gt;<i> BTW, is there someplace that has a copy of the official Logo that is
+</I>&gt;<i> in svg or at least resizable format?
+</I>
+I forgot to reply to that earlier: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/media/">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/media/</A>
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+&gt;<i> Hi All,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a basic install of moonmoon set up and running on
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org.">http://mageiapeople.org.</A> I plan to do some design work this weekend so
+</I>&gt;<i> it's not so, well, boring looking.
+</I>What is its advantage over planet.mageia.org?
+I also fail to see a reason for putting things like that up outside the
+Mageia infrastructure.
+Why not discuss it in advance? You are not working in a vacuum, there is
+a project arround you, isn't there?
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+&gt;<i> What is its advantage over planet.mageia.org?
+</I>
++1
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+&gt;<i> I also fail to see a reason for putting things like that up outside the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia infrastructure.
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not discuss it in advance? You are not working in a vacuum, there is a
+</I>&gt;<i> project arround you, isn't there?
+</I>
+There's nothing against experiments outside of the infrastructure, and
+building first to demonstrate/discuss later. But the point here is,
+what's the difference/goal from planet.mageia.org (that could
+certainly be improved and linked from better places, but still).
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+&gt;<i> Am 23.03.2012 01:51, schrieb Josh King (dotmil):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi All,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have a basic install of moonmoon set up and running on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org.">http://mageiapeople.org.</A> I plan to do some design work this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; weekend so it's not so, well, boring looking.
+</I>&gt;<i> What is its advantage over planet.mageia.org?
+</I>&gt;<i> I also fail to see a reason for putting things like that up outside
+</I>&gt;<i> the Mageia infrastructure.
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not discuss it in advance? You are not working in a vacuum,
+</I>&gt;<i> there is a project arround you, isn't there?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
++1. I have to ask - did you guys discuss this with anyone but
+yourselves? Email the council list, email the discuss list with a
+what-do-people-think?
+
+Aside from general courtesy, the Mageia name belongs to the
+community, and there are some rules about how we use it.
+
+Before the second planet goes any further, how about sending an email
+to the discuss list, and asking what people think? And contacting
+some other council members for feedback on the general idea?
+
+Cheers,
+
+- --
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 23.03.2012 01:51, schrieb Josh King (dotmil):
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi All,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have a basic install of moonmoon set up and running on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org.">http://mageiapeople.org.</A> I plan to do some design work this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> weekend so it's not so, well, boring looking.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is its advantage over planet.mageia.org?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I also fail to see a reason for putting things like that up outside
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the Mageia infrastructure.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why not discuss it in advance? You are not working in a vacuum,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there is a project arround you, isn't there?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1. I have to ask - did you guys discuss this with anyone but
+</I>&gt;<i> yourselves? Email the council list, email the discuss list with a
+</I>&gt;<i> what-do-people-think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Aside from general courtesy, the Mageia name belongs to the
+</I>&gt;<i> community, and there are some rules about how we use it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Before the second planet goes any further, how about sending an email
+</I>&gt;<i> to the discuss list, and asking what people think? And contacting
+</I>&gt;<i> some other council members for feedback on the general idea?
+</I>
+Ok, I'll try to answer all of these in one shot. This idea was first
+mentioned in my original email about it to this list and expounded upon
+in subsequent messages:
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-marketing/2012-March/000649.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-marketing/2012-March/000649.html</A>
+
+The idea is basically a planet for users of Mageia. These would be blog
+feeds and have to comply with the code of conduct of course. This idea
+gives people a chance to see there are real people behind Magia and is
+in line with what some other distros do (see Ubuntu for one). The
+official planet is designed for official team members/developers of
+Magia. Different groups of people, different reasons for being. It's
+conceived simply as a gateway to get users involved and looking to
+contribute further to Mageia as well as provide some entertainment. It's
+not in any way intended or designed to replace the official planet site
+(which yes suffers from neglect badly)
+
+ Putting it up on my own server was done simply out of convenience; it
+could easily be moved to an official Mageia server if so desired.
+
+As it currently stands it has been done more as a proof of concept than
+anything else. We (sebsebseb, myself, logo, etc.) were discussing it on
+IRC last night and had already agreed the next step was to post to the
+discuss list and possibly the forum as well for feedback and comment. If
+no one wants it, it's a simple rm -rf on my server and it's done. It's
+on the web yes, but it's far from considered &quot;live&quot; by any means - the
+only traffic so far has been from myself and others helping with it.
+
+I apologize if bringing this up on this list was incorrect. My thoughts
+were that this was community building/marketing so naturally this was
+the place to start. I'm more than happy to consult with any other
+council members, especially any ones in particular who may be
+interested. My plan isn't to develop this as a singular monument to
+myself, but to add it as part of furthering Mageia as a whole. I'm
+simply willing/able to do it and didn't think I was doing anything I
+haven't done inside other OSS projects. So again I apologize if any
+incorrect impressions were given. I would suggest this possibly become
+some sort of guideline for future cases. The chances of someone single
+handedly starting up &quot;ilovemageia.com/.org/.net&quot; increase as Mageia's
+brand grows. Personally I think such fan sites, etc. would be good
+things to have happen but that's just my opinion.
+
+I hope this covered the questions and I'm more than happy to answer any
+others. Also, any comments or guidance from elected team members are
+welcome as well; off list if this is clogging up other marketing
+business works for me as well. I'm holding off on any further actions
+until everyone who wishes has a chance to speak on this. Then, if agreed
+I will proceed with taking it up with the others mentioned.
+
+Thanks!
+Josh
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+&gt;<i> Loqo typed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Facebook, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The Mageia group should be there as well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+</I>
+I wouldn't add google+, identi.ca or twitter rss feeds on planet. Planet
+is for blogs, not for microblogging sites. Adding g+ or identi.ca on
+planet will only polute with duplicate links to the same content.
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+&gt;<i> I wouldn't add google+, identi.ca or twitter rss feeds on planet. Planet
+</I>&gt;<i> is for blogs, not for microblogging sites. Adding g+ or identi.ca on
+</I>&gt;<i> planet will only polute with duplicate links to the same content.
+</I>Especially since I mostly post things on G+, that already is on the blog.
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/23 nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I wouldn't add google+, identi.ca or twitter rss feeds on planet. Planet
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is for blogs, not for microblogging sites. Adding g+ or identi.ca on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> planet will only polute with duplicate links to the same content.
+</I>&gt;<i> Especially since I mostly post things on G+, that already is on the blog.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I> I agree - the planet should be kept for big posts.
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Loqo typed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Facebook, etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The Mageia group should be there as well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wouldn't add google+, identi.ca or twitter rss feeds on planet. Planet
+</I>&gt;<i> is for blogs, not for microblogging sites. Adding g+ or identi.ca on
+</I>&gt;<i> planet will only polute with duplicate links to the same content.
+</I>
+I agreed with Nicolas.
+Do not mix social media and planet!
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+Ok got to start my reply some where, first of all as rda put it's ok to
+set up things outside the <A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A> website for Mageia.
+
+However I agree with rda certain things may be good to set up outside
+the <A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A> website as a test, and then later become part of
+the official project website.
+
+Being clear Josh's idea is to have a separate planet hosted on
+<A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> where many users of Mageia can have their blogs
+being mentioned, and possibly microblogging as well later on in a
+separate section for example. This planet would/will become rather
+general, since people won't always be blogging or microblogging about
+Mageia.
+
+For blogs of Mageia developers and people like that
+<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> makes perfect sense. The idea was never to
+compete against <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> or try to, the idea was to just
+provide a different type of planet as well aimed at the Mageia users
+community, people who are just users of the distribution specifically,
+but contributors could also go on this planet as well.
+
+At the moment it's just a new idea that is being tested out on
+<A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> that may become a proper planet for Mageia users
+with many blogs, and possibly some microblogging as well in a separate
+section for example.
+
+I also suggested that Josh took his idea to the Mageia discuss mailing
+list and the forum.
+
+Josh wondered before who ran <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> so I checked on
+IRC by chatting to Coincoin/Damien that it was indeed him, and got the
+email address, and told Josh it in a previous email to this mailing
+list, thinking he would email Coincoin/Damien about it.
+
+Josh typed:
+&gt;<i> The chances of someone single handedly starting up
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;ilovemageia.com/.org/.net&quot; increase as Mageia's brand grows.
+</I>&gt;<i> Personally I think such fan sites, etc. would be good things to have
+</I>&gt;<i> happen but that's just my opinion.
+</I>
+I agree, and I think the more websites there are mentioning Mageia in a
+positive way the better for the project.
+
+I 100% agree that those kind of sites will be rather good to have for
+the Mageia project usually.
+
+I have a prime example for when a unofficial website works very well for
+the project as a whole: <A HREF="http://omgubuntu.co.uk">http://omgubuntu.co.uk</A> the most popular news and
+such website for the Ubuntu project (or so I believe any way), and by a
+long way. It is also an unofficial site, it is not made as part of the
+Ubuntu Community or by Canonical. Really it was just started by a guy
+who decided to start the site and so on from there. However since it's
+been so popular for years, official Ubuntu Community Members have
+sometimes guest posted on it, such as Jono Bacon the community manager
+who is also a Canonical employee and Jorge Castro from his community
+team at Canonical, and Daniel Holbach who I think may also be from it,
+and that is a Ubuntu Community Member.
+
+Official Ubuntu Community Members as far as I know will still post on
+<A HREF="http://omgubuntu.co.uk">http://omgubuntu.co.uk</A> sometimes as well.
+
+They have also had people such as Seif Lofty the Zeitgeist developer
+blogging on it for example. I think he is a Ubuntu Community Member as
+well, but not sure.
+
+So yes the website is unofficial, but it works very much so for
+Canonical's advantage, and the Ubuntu Community as a whole, however
+let's be clear about that again it's not an official Canonical or Ubuntu
+Community website. The official Ubuntu blogs or kind of thing, would be
+the ones from Ubuntu Community Members shown in their planet:
+<A HREF="http://planet.ubuntu.com">http://planet.ubuntu.com</A>
+
+Do Ubuntu have a planet for users of the distro? Well no not that I know
+of, but they don't really need to either, because there are loads of
+blogs out there that tend to mention it, and the most popular ones are
+already known about by many people.
+
+Josh's idea of having a separate planet for just users
+<A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> whilst still also having the more official
+planet <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> as well, I think as a community building
+minded person is an absolutely great idea.
+
+Yes ok so if it's on <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> it won't be seen as being
+that official probably, but that's good for such a planet with loads of
+blogs that will be mentioning quite a lot of other stuff at times as
+well, not just Mageia.
+
+The blogs that are mentioned on <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> should be
+mainly mentioning Mageia, but for Josh's <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> idea
+things will be much more general.
+
+As members of the marketing team it is our responsibility to help gain
+interest in the Mageia project, and yes to some extent Josh's
+<A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> idea will help to do this.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<PRE>On 23/03/12 17:17, nicolas vigier wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Loqo typed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Facebook, etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The Mageia group should be there as well: <A HREF="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wouldn't add google+, identi.ca or twitter rss feeds on planet. Planet
+</I>&gt;<i> is for blogs, not for microblogging sites. Adding g+ or identi.ca on
+</I>&gt;<i> planet will only polute with duplicate links to the same content.
+</I>There has been a misunderstanding and from more than one person it seems
+as well. As was put in the email, the Mageia on the web section, that's
+down the right hand side, where currently the Mageia website, blog, and
+Mageia on Twitter and Facebook are linked to.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+
+P.S
+
+It's a good idea to have the first letter of a name capitalised usually,
+at the moment the name in the Twitter link is lower cased and the name
+in the Facebook link as well on the planet.
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+<PRE>On 23/03/12 10:56, loqo wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a thought: can we add the Mageia Google+ pages to the planet?
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/">http://planet.mageia.org/en/</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It should really be in the &quot;Mageia on the web&quot; section with Twitter,
+</I>&gt;<i> Facebook, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+--------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+To clarify:
+
+There are already links to Facebook/Twitter/etc. and we should add a
+*link* to G+ there. No feeds.
+Visitors should be able to find all of the official social media from
+the planet.
+
+--------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+
+
+I have additional views. Please consider them!
+
+
+WHY DOES SOCIAL MEDIA MATTER?
+
+Blogs are often &quot;vanity&quot; or &quot;hobby&quot; projects and update quite slowly.
+Even once a day is slow. We're not in the 90's any more. In general,
+people will read blogs as a one-off reference or source of information.
+
+As a trend, people don't revisit blogs often, because they don't expect
+anything to change.
+
+FB/G+/Twitter/identi.ca/Diaspora are very busy and update often, so
+revisiting regularly becomes a habit for users. In this way, the social
+sites are more popular and &quot;sticky&quot; than any blog. For marketing
+purposes we should always remember this! These sites are more useful
+than blogs.
+
+Nearly all big companies are spending time, energy and money on social
+media. They know they need a presence on these sites. They have good
+reason for this. Exposure. Being noticed and growing the brand. These
+companies are not spending much time and money on blogs because blogs
+don't bring them more customers. It's worth noticing this fact!
+
+
+SMART USE OF ENERGY
+
+If time and energy (and money) are valuable, we should use them
+efficiently. We should: Use social media for sharing news and marketing.
+Post news on the official Mageia blog and post links to it on all social
+media.
+
+Social media posts are more likely to be shared. It's easier for users.
+It spreads the news faster, with less work for us!
+
+Use any other blogs for long articles or personal opinions/ off topic
+articles. People's blogs are wonderful, vital parts of the community but
+should not be treated as part of the official brand. Let's not lose
+track of which things are &quot;Mageia brand&quot; and which are &quot;community
+contributions&quot;.
+
+
+FORUMS
+
+We REALLY should use the forums as much as possible because they seem
+almost dead to newcomers. Why are we using mailing lists when we can
+have sections/threads in the forums? There is a lot more we can do on
+the forums. And we should be checking in daily! ;)
+
+Did you visit the forum today?
+
+Most people coming to Mageia will visit the forums before they visit IRC
+or anyone's blogs. The forums are a top-link on the main Mageia website
+and should be treated as important. The planet should be linked there
+too and the planet needs to give social media more importance!
+
+The planet should be a hub to all social media. Blogs are just one type.
+
+
+BOTTOM LINE
+
+Please take social media seriously. Please don't spend *too* much time
+on blogs. Please spend more time on the forums guys!
+
+
+Thank you for your time.
+
+loqo
+
+
+
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+
+I apologise for my direct tone. I'm keen to help and not get stuck in
+dialogue loops or semantics.
+
+I'm nearly 40 and in my career I have worked with M&amp;C Saachi, MTV,
+Reebok, Nintendo, Sony and others. I have designed and sold advertising.
+I've worked with brands. I've made a couple of Facebook games, among
+others. I know this territory and my advice is based on years of useful
+experience.
+
+I'm also glad to listen to suggestions, criticism or pointers. I'm down
+to earth and friendly too. I'm ONLY here to help!
+
+Warmest regards,
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+&gt;<i> On 03/20/2012 12:21 AM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have also emailed about the IRC cloaks and @mageia.org email
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> addresses. For the IRC cloaks this still needs sorting out with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Freenode. For the @mageia.org email addresses it seems to be up to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> leaders of the remaining teams that don't have them, to get it sorted out:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The @mageia.org emails would be nice to have even as an alias. But I agree
+</I>&gt;<i> some sort of guidelines need to be established to control who gets them.
+</I>
+Just to make it clear: all @mageia.org emails are aliases. I have one
+as i18n deputy leader, and it redirects to the email I registered on
+identity.mageia.org.
+
+It is up to each team to decide who should get aliases, so this is a
+point that could be raised in the next marcom meeting.
+
+Regards,
+R&#233;mi
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+<PRE>On 23 March 2012 19:54, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok got to start my reply some where, first of all as rda put it's ok to set
+</I>&gt;<i> up things outside the <A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A> website for Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However I agree with rda certain things may be good to set up outside the
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A> website as a test, and then later become part of the
+</I>&gt;<i> official project website.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Being clear Josh's idea is to have a separate planet hosted on
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> where many users of Mageia can have their blogs
+</I>&gt;<i> being mentioned, and possibly microblogging as well later on in a separate
+</I>&gt;<i> section for example. &#160;This planet would/will become rather general, since
+</I>&gt;<i> people won't always be blogging or microblogging about Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For blogs of Mageia developers and people like that <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> makes perfect sense. &#160;The idea was never to compete against
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> or try to, the idea was to just provide a different
+</I>&gt;<i> type of planet as well aimed at the Mageia users community, people who are
+</I>&gt;<i> just users of the distribution specifically, but contributors could also go
+</I>&gt;<i> on this planet as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At the moment it's just a new idea that is being tested out on
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> that may become a proper planet for Mageia users
+</I>&gt;<i> with many blogs, and possibly some microblogging as well in a separate
+</I>&gt;<i> section for example.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I also suggested that Josh took his idea to the Mageia discuss mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> and the forum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh wondered before who ran <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> so I checked on IRC by
+</I>&gt;<i> chatting to Coincoin/Damien that it was indeed him, and got the email
+</I>&gt;<i> address, and told Josh it in a previous email to this mailing list, thinking
+</I>&gt;<i> he would email Coincoin/Damien about it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh typed:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The chances of someone single handedly starting up
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;ilovemageia.com/.org/.net&quot; increase as Mageia's brand grows. Personally I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> think such fan sites, etc. would be good things to have happen but that's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just my opinion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree, and I think the more websites there are mentioning Mageia in a
+</I>&gt;<i> positive way the better for the project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I 100% agree that those kind of sites will be rather good to have for the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia project usually.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a prime example for when a unofficial website works very well for the
+</I>&gt;<i> project as a whole: <A HREF="http://omgubuntu.co.uk">http://omgubuntu.co.uk</A> the most popular news and such
+</I>&gt;<i> website for the Ubuntu project (or so I believe any way), and by a long way.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;It is also an unofficial site, it is not made as part of the Ubuntu
+</I>&gt;<i> Community or by Canonical. &#160;Really it was just started by a guy who decided
+</I>&gt;<i> to start the site and so on from there. However since it's been so popular
+</I>&gt;<i> for years, official Ubuntu Community Members have sometimes guest posted on
+</I>&gt;<i> it, such as Jono Bacon the community manager who is also a Canonical
+</I>&gt;<i> employee and Jorge Castro from his community team at Canonical, and Daniel
+</I>&gt;<i> Holbach who I think may also be from it, and that is a Ubuntu Community
+</I>&gt;<i> Member.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Official Ubuntu Community Members as far as I know will still post on
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://omgubuntu.co.uk">http://omgubuntu.co.uk</A> sometimes as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> They have also had people such as Seif Lofty the Zeitgeist developer
+</I>&gt;<i> blogging on it for example. I think he is a Ubuntu Community Member as well,
+</I>&gt;<i> but not sure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So yes the website is unofficial, but it works very much so for Canonical's
+</I>&gt;<i> advantage, and the Ubuntu Community as a whole, however let's be clear about
+</I>&gt;<i> that again it's not an official Canonical or Ubuntu Community website. The
+</I>&gt;<i> official Ubuntu blogs or kind of thing, would be the ones from Ubuntu
+</I>&gt;<i> Community Members shown in their planet: <A HREF="http://planet.ubuntu.com">http://planet.ubuntu.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do Ubuntu have a planet for users of the distro? Well no not that I know of,
+</I>&gt;<i> but they don't really need to either, because there are loads of blogs out
+</I>&gt;<i> there that tend to mention it, and the most popular ones are already known
+</I>&gt;<i> about by many people.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Josh's idea of having a separate planet for just users
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> whilst still also having the more official planet
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> as well, I think as a community building minded
+</I>&gt;<i> person is an absolutely great idea.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes ok so if it's on <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> it won't be seen as being that
+</I>&gt;<i> official probably, but that's good for such a planet with loads of blogs
+</I>&gt;<i> that will be mentioning quite a lot of other stuff at times as well, not
+</I>&gt;<i> just Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The blogs that are mentioned on <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org">http://planet.mageia.org</A> should be mainly
+</I>&gt;<i> mentioning Mageia, but for Josh's <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> idea things will
+</I>&gt;<i> be much more general.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As members of the marketing team it is our responsibility to help gain
+</I>&gt;<i> interest in the Mageia project, and yes to some extent Josh's
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageiapeople.org">http://mageiapeople.org</A> idea will help to do this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
+Can you add my blogspot on here or is it not the place.
+
+<A HREF="http://schultzslog.blogspot.co.uk/">http://schultzslog.blogspot.co.uk/</A>
+
+Thanks.
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+<PRE>Alright people, it's time to start the discussion on the new installer
+images (or more accurately, continue from last week's meeting).
+A good jumping off point would be the texts.
+We have 5 texts, but some people mostly me) are unhappy with them. I think
+that there should be more of an emphasis on the unique qualities of Mageia
+rather than pointing out all of the things that we do just like any other
+Linux distro.
+The current texts are:
+
+1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of
+ users, developers and advocates from around the world.
+
+2. Free software means choice: KDE, GNOME, LXDE or other desktops;
+ Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution
+ for mail...
+
+3. Mageia covers your graphics, your video creation and editing needs
+ with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+
+4. Mageia's Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up
+ your hardware, software and more, all in one place.
+
+5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash,
+ KMyMoney and others cover word processing, spreadsheets,
+ presentations and finance.
+
+So that means that I'm happy with 1 and 4, but less happy with the other
+three.
+Maybe if it was the other way around: 3 texts describing the uniqueness of
+Mageia and 2 describing other things. Or better yet, 4 or 5 texts
+describing the uniqueness of Mageia, but I know that that is less likely
+and less easy.
+
+Once we have settled on the texts (or even as we thrash them out) we should
+discuss ideas of what the images should be.
+Some rules:
+
+ - There should be a common theme/look to all images.
+ - We need to make sure that we don't change or distort any group/compan
+ logos, including our own.
+ - The texts need to be clear and visible.
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+&gt;<i> We have 5 texts, but some people mostly me) are unhappy with them. I
+</I>&gt;<i> think that there should be more of an emphasis on the unique qualities
+</I>&gt;<i> of Mageia rather than pointing out all of the things that we do just
+</I>&gt;<i> like any other Linux distro.
+</I>&gt;<i> The current texts are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of
+</I>&gt;<i> users, developers and advocates from around the world.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Free software means choice: KDE, GNOME, LXDE or other desktops;
+</I>&gt;<i> Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution
+</I>&gt;<i> for mail...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Mageia covers your graphics, your video creation and editing needs
+</I>&gt;<i> with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. Mageia's Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up
+</I>&gt;<i> your hardware, software and more, all in one place.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash,
+</I>&gt;<i> KMyMoney and others cover word processing, spreadsheets,
+</I>&gt;<i> presentations and finance.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So that means that I'm happy with 1 and 4, but less happy with the
+</I>&gt;<i> other three.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe if it was the other way around: 3 texts describing the
+</I>&gt;<i> uniqueness of Mageia and 2 describing other things. Or better yet, 4
+</I>&gt;<i> or 5 texts describing the uniqueness of Mageia, but I know that that
+</I>&gt;<i> is less likely and less easy.
+</I>
+I agree with Max, it would be a good idea to focus more in those
+installer text's on what makes Mageia different from lots of other
+distro's. 1 and 4 are good, but I know with some effort from many of us
+as a team we could have something much better for the others.
+
+I went to my first LUG meeting yesterday that was fun :). I talked to
+some people about Mageia, someone in particular and he asked me what
+made Mageia different from other distro's and that kind of thing. He
+was also interested in what software it could run, that it could run
+Eclipse I think it was for example. I told him that it could, and I
+basically said something about how most distro's run most of the same
+kind of software, because of something called upstream, who make the
+original projects such as Gnome, KDE, and Firefox.
+
+Any way he also wondered what made Mageia unique why it should be used
+over other distro's and that kind of thing. I told him how it was a 100%
+community distro with a non profit organisation behind it, with everyone
+being a volunteer. I also explained that it was a fork of Mandriva and
+told him what a fork is. When it came to the distro itself and what
+made it unique over many other distro's I didn't really have much to say
+at all, other than that it has a nice graphical control centre.
+
+I gave away most of the Mageia 1 CD's yesterday to 7 or so people :),
+that I came back with from FOSDEM 2012 at the LUG. I gave most people
+two CD's KDE and Gnome. One or two or so people only got a KDE CD,
+because I had more of those. The last Gnome CD went to a person who
+would have rather had Gnome than KDE, but he got given a KDE as well.
+Even gave a Gnome and a KDE away to the taxi driver who took me there,
+we were talking about stuff, and he was saying how he had some Windows
+issues and so on. Three KDE CD's left that I would like to give away to
+other people at the LUG hopefully. Keeping two KDE's and Gnome's for
+myself that I came back with from FOSDEM 2012 :).
+
+Any way going back to installer slide show images, let's take Ubuntu for
+example again. With Ubuntu they tell some of the users what software can
+be run in the slide show, such as Firefox and LibreOffice, but they also
+mention what is special to Ubuntu, for example the free cloud space on
+Ubuntu One, and the software centre, and music store.
+
+ From a end user point of view, really what does make Mageia special
+when compared to many other distro's? Well yes the control centre, but
+really is there anything else as well?
+
+The control centre I think is rather good and most distro's lack this
+kind of thing, but Mandriva has the control centre of course as well,
+and all of the distro's based on it I think have it
+
+There's a distro called Unity Linux which has nothing to do with
+Canonical's/Ubuntu's Unity. It's based on Mandriva and is more of a
+distribution builder distro with many other distributions based on it,
+but I assume they all have the control centre as well for example.
+
+On the subject of being unique I recently remembered a little while ago,
+how in the past there was something about how in the future Mageia
+would do something that would make it rather unique over other distro's.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+Looking at the texts from a marketing point of view, we need two things:
+
+a) what is Mageia like that's *different* from everyone else
+
+and
+
+b) what about Mageia is going to be comfortable for *new* users.
+
+So, interesting and reassuring, both at once.
+
+With me so far?
+
+For a), we have:
+
+&gt;<i> 1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of
+</I>&gt;<i> users, developers and advocates from around the world.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> 4. Mageia's Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up
+</I>&gt;<i> your hardware, software and more, all in one place.
+</I>
+for b), we have:
+
+&gt;<i> 2. Free software means choice: KDE, GNOME, LXDE or other desktops;
+</I>&gt;<i> Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution
+</I>&gt;<i> for mail...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Mageia covers your graphics, your video creation and editing needs
+</I>&gt;<i> with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash,
+</I>&gt;<i> KMyMoney and others cover word processing, spreadsheets,
+</I>&gt;<i> presentations and finance.
+</I>
+It's probably a good idea to remember the texts we had for Mageia 1:
+
+&gt;<i> * screen 1 : &quot;Thank you for testing Mageia Alpha
+</I>&gt;<i> 2&quot; (s/testing/using/ for finale)
+</I>&gt;<i> * screen 2 : &quot;Please give us your impressions - we need your input
+</I>&gt;<i> to improve on this distribution&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> * screen 3 : &quot;We are a great, international community and we will
+</I>&gt;<i> welcome you when you join us!&quot;
+</I>
+I have an idea we cleaned those up for the final, and there was
+something in there about thanks for trying Mageia. I haven't seen the
+installer for quite a while...
+
+So: I think we're past the place where we thank people for giving us a
+try; but we'll never be past the place where we want to say, welcome,
+please join us if you aren't already here in the community. That's
+partly covered in #1.
+
+What about if in #1.5, we say something more about people joining the
+community? and then we could condense 2, 3 and 5 into two points, and
+we'd have our three.
+
+I'm looking for people to actually write something, and post it back
+to the list for us to consider and refine.
+
+No more than 20 words per installer screen - less if you can manage it!
+
+I'd like to have something to show Council at the meeting, which is in
+about 24 hours, so please get started!
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
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+Mon Mar 26 08:50:55 EST 2012
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+
+&gt;<i> I apologise for my direct tone. I'm keen to help and not get stuck in
+</I>&gt;<i> dialogue loops or semantics.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm nearly 40 and in my career I have worked with M&amp;C Saachi, MTV,
+</I>&gt;<i> Reebok, Nintendo, Sony and others. I have designed and sold
+</I>&gt;<i> advertising. I've worked with brands. I've made a couple of Facebook
+</I>&gt;<i> games, among others. I know this territory and my advice is based on
+</I>&gt;<i> years of useful experience.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm also glad to listen to suggestions, criticism or pointers. I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> down to earth and friendly too. I'm ONLY here to help!
+</I>
+
+Thanks for the introduction, and I hope you'll stick with us; we've got
+some serious writing to do in the next week or so, and we could use
+your help!
+
+What timezone are you in? I'd like us to converge on a piratepad this
+week and do some collaborative writing. I'm in Australia, Bradley is in
+the US, Seb is in the UK and Dale is in Canada... but I can work with
+whatever suits everyone else.
+
+We have three texts we must produce (whatever else we're doing):
+
+1. blog post for the release announcement
+1.a website front page for the release day
+2. press release for the announcement (to go to mags, linux sites etc)
+3. something else, but I'll have to look it up (no breakfast yet.
+
+I really appreciate all the planeting and social media stuff - very
+important and must get cleaned up shortly - but these texts are on a
+deadline, so we have to please concentrate on them!
+
+Cheers,
+
+Trish.
+
+
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Mon Mar 26 09:03:27 EST 2012
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+<PRE>On 25/03/12 23:07, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What timezone are you in? I'd like us to converge on a piratepad this
+</I>&gt;<i> week and do some collaborative writing. I'm in Australia, Bradley is in
+</I>&gt;<i> the US, Seb is in the UK and Dale is in Canada... but I can work with
+</I>&gt;<i> whatever suits everyone else.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi Trish
+
+Loqo is from the UK, but currently in Japan and near Tokyo I think.
+
+I am not sure who Dale is?
+
+As for the meeting well, your clock hasn't changed, but they have in
+Europe, as of this weekend. So your currently 10 hours a head of me, and
+9 hours a head of France for example.
+
+You forgot about Josh he's five or fix hours behind me. There's also
+R&#233;mi/Akien in France.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+We're due for a meeting this week, and we also need to get together to
+get our texts started.
+
+Meeting time is 19h00 UTC Wednesday, is that okay for everyone? I can
+do it for this meeting, but once our clocks go back, I'd like to change
+it to 20h00 or 21h00.
+
+Also we need to establish a time when we can collaborate on the texts.
+We'll be using piratepad, <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/">http://piratepad.net/</A> or
+blocnotes, <A HREF="http://bn.parinux.org/.">http://bn.parinux.org/.</A> The parinux site is sometimes more
+stable.
+
+Can people please answer to the lists about their preferred time in UTC?
+
+Cheers!
+
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Mon Mar 26 13:03:18 EST 2012
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+Apparently, Marcom is supposed to look after the official planet (and
+receive all the requests and arrange for people to get hooked up). So,
+adding users to the official planet is our task anyway, and that means
+we can decide how the planet is going - and we have to moderate it so
+that we watch out for feeds with offensive or illegal content, and be
+prepared to move... so we need to make sure that people wanting to
+add their feeds are very aware of the Code of Conduct, among other
+things.
+
+Josh, can you please find out how we manage the back-end stuff? Maybe
+talk to people on the Sysadmin team?
+
+Cheers!
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+Our clocks went an hour forward this weekend that has just been. So 7pm
+UTC is 8pm BST (British Summer Time) here, and for this Wednesday that
+will be ok.
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+The times you provided for when your clocks go back will be ok as well.
+When do your clocks go back?
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+&gt;<i> The times you provided for when your clocks go back will be ok as
+</I>&gt;<i> well. When do your clocks go back?
+</I>
+Let me just google that for you 8-):
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+<A HREF="http://www.timeanddate.com/">http://www.timeanddate.com/</A> has everything, for everywhere.
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+Cheers!
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Mon Mar 26 14:34:34 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+andromeda up 2 day(s), 66 hour(s), 10 min.
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+&gt;<i> Apparently, Marcom is supposed to look after the official planet
+</I>
+(and to look after other Web publishing platforms (www for instance).
+But it takes time to get a hold of it and have the platform ready for
+that) :-p but don't feel like it's a forbidden area for you.
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+&gt;<i> adding users to the official planet is our task anyway, and that means
+</I>&gt;<i> we can decide how the planet is going - and we have to moderate it so
+</I>&gt;<i> that we watch out for feeds with offensive or illegal content, and be
+</I>&gt;<i> prepared to move... so we need to make sure that people wanting to
+</I>&gt;<i> add their feeds are very aware of the Code of Conduct, among other
+</I>&gt;<i> things.
+</I>
+Right. And you can too think of the planet as not necessarily a feed,
+but as a magazine (of the community at large); it's a matter of
+designing the front page template (see for instance
+<A HREF="http://paper.li/AletaPool/technology">http://paper.li/AletaPool/technology</A> - it's something built out of
+feeds).
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+&gt;<i> Josh, can you please find out how we manage the back-end stuff? Maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> talk to people on the Sysadmin team?
+</I>
+You can Cc: dams (aka coincoin), he set it up and manages it.
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 04:12, Patricia Fraser&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Apparently, Marcom is supposed to look after the official planet
+</I>&gt;<i> (and to look after other Web publishing platforms (www for instance).
+</I>&gt;<i> But it takes time to get a hold of it and have the platform ready for
+</I>&gt;<i> that) :-p but don't feel like it's a forbidden area for you.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> adding users to the official planet is our task anyway, and that means
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we can decide how the planet is going - and we have to moderate it so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that we watch out for feeds with offensive or illegal content, and be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> prepared to move... so we need to make sure that people wanting to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> add their feeds are very aware of the Code of Conduct, among other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> things.
+</I>&gt;<i> Right. And you can too think of the planet as not necessarily a feed,
+</I>&gt;<i> but as a magazine (of the community at large); it's a matter of
+</I>&gt;<i> designing the front page template (see for instance
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://paper.li/AletaPool/technology">http://paper.li/AletaPool/technology</A> - it's something built out of
+</I>&gt;<i> feeds).
+</I>
+
+A hearty +1 for making it magazine-like!
+
+
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Josh, can you please find out how we manage the back-end stuff? Maybe
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> talk to people on the Sysadmin team?
+</I>&gt;<i> You can Cc: dams (aka coincoin), he set it up and manages it.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+&gt;<i> Alright people, it's time to start the discussion on the new installer
+</I>&gt;<i> images (or more accurately, continue from last week's meeting).
+</I>&gt;<i> A good jumping off point would be the texts.
+</I>&gt;<i> We have 5 texts, but some people mostly me) are unhappy with them. I think
+</I>&gt;<i> that there should be more of an emphasis on the unique qualities of Mageia
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+ as new users may not know this
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+ <B>R&#233;mi Verschelde</B>
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+&gt;<i> Meeting time is 19h00 UTC Wednesday, is that okay for everyone? I can
+</I>&gt;<i> do it for this meeting, but once our clocks go back, I'd like to change
+</I>&gt;<i> it to 20h00 or 21h00.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+19h UTC is fine by me, I'll try to be there. 20h UTC would be okay too
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+ <B>loqo</B>
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+<PRE>On 27/03/12 02:21, nicolas vigier wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Alright people, it's time to start the discussion on the new installer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> images (or more accurately, continue from last week's meeting).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A good jumping off point would be the texts.
+</I>
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> We have 5 texts, but some people mostly me) are unhappy with them. I think
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that there should be more of an emphasis on the unique qualities of Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rather than pointing out all of the things that we do just like any other
+</I>
++1
+
+My suggestions below. I believe these points are important!
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would have texts about the following :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - Free Software : explain that Mageia is free software and what it means
+</I>&gt;<i> as new users may not know this
+</I>
+
+&quot;Mageia is developed by a not-for-profit organisation&quot;
+
+(specifically don't say &quot;non-profit&quot; as it dilutes the meaning and
+sounds like a business failure)
+
+
+This aspect of Mageia is what separates it from Suse, Fedora, Ubuntu and
+others. They *DO* care about profit, even if their Linux is free. It
+colours their thinking and motives.
+
+
+&quot;Mageia is free in spirit - free to download, free to use, free of limits&quot;
+
+(try to cover libre and cost aspects of &quot;free&quot; without confusion)
+
+
+&quot;Mageia is made with passion by a global team&quot;
+
+(speaks for itself)
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> - Mageia Community : explain that Mageia is built by a community, and
+</I>&gt;<i> that people can join and help in different teams. List of teams and
+</I>&gt;<i> short description of what they do, etc ...
+</I>
+&quot;By installing Mageia ('using Mageia' on the live CD), you are ALREADY a
+valuable part of the community!&quot;
+
+(Give users a feeling of importance)
+
+
+&quot;Here's how you can join in&quot;
+
+(Call to action)
+
+
+Mention forums, teams, IRC, planets, Twitter, etc. here. Get traffic
+coming to the community.
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> - Main Mageia features : control center, number of packages, main
+</I>&gt;<i> desktop environments available, etc ...
+</I>
+
+
+Start with a high-level view of major qualities first:
+
+
+&quot;Mageia is fast, stable, flexible, built on x years of Mandriva
+expertise*, etc.&quot;
+
+
+Then move onto the individual features as you've mentioned.
+
+
+
+*Mention Mandriva sparingly. It's important to understand Mageia's
+heritage but we need to build an identity beyond Mandrake/Mandriva.
+
+
+
+
+Hope this helps.
+
+loqo
+
+
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>Loqo typed:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia is free in spirit - free to download, free to use, free of limits&quot;
+</I>I don't like the free of limits in that.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (try to cover libre and cost aspects of &quot;free&quot; without confusion)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia is made with passion by a global team&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (speaks for itself)
+</I>I think that sounds really good.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Mageia Community : explain that Mageia is built by a community, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that people can join and help in different teams. List of teams and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> short description of what they do, etc ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;By installing Mageia ('using Mageia' on the live CD), you are ALREADY
+</I>&gt;<i> a valuable part of the community!&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Give users a feeling of importance)
+</I>Hmm something like that could work quite well.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Here's how you can join in&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Call to action)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mention forums, teams, IRC, planets, Twitter, etc. here. Get traffic
+</I>&gt;<i> coming to the community.
+</I>Identica :), and that kind of message could be good to have.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Main Mageia features : control center, number of packages, main
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> desktop environments available, etc ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Start with a high-level view of major qualities first:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia is fast, stable, flexible, built on x years of Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> expertise*, etc.&quot;
+</I>Certain people won't want Mandriva mentioned in Mageia, that's the only
+problem with that one really I guess.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then move onto the individual features as you've mentioned.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> *Mention Mandriva sparingly. It's important to understand Mageia's
+</I>&gt;<i> heritage but we need to build an identity beyond Mandrake/Mandriva.
+</I>Well some Mandriva history can be useful in promoting Mageia yes,
+however in the installer slide show, I am not so sure about that.
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+</PRE>
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+
+&gt;<i> My suggestions below. I believe these points are important!
+</I>
+Put them in a piratepad and send the link to the list - then we can all
+work on them, even if we're in a difficult timezone...
+
+Cheers!
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+<PRE>On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 01:51, loqo &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">hoverflydesign at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> &quot;Mageia is developed by a not-for-profit organisation&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (specifically don't say &quot;non-profit&quot; as it dilutes the meaning and sounds
+</I>&gt;<i> like a business failure)
+</I>
+&quot;not-for-profit&quot; is usually related to an activity, &quot;nonprofit&quot; to an
+organization. It does not dilute the meaning, it is the meaning.
+
+&gt;<i> This aspect of Mageia is what separates it from Suse, Fedora, Ubuntu and
+</I>&gt;<i> others. They *DO* care about profit, even if their Linux is free. It colours
+</I>&gt;<i> their thinking and motives.
+</I>
+And?
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - Mageia Community : explain that Mageia is built by a community, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; that people can join and help in different teams. List of teams and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; short description of what they do, etc ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;By installing Mageia ('using Mageia' on the live CD), you are ALREADY a
+</I>&gt;<i> valuable part of the community!&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Give users a feeling of importance)
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Here's how you can join in&quot;
+</I>
+Are they part of the community already (above), or they have an extra
+step to join? :)
+
+&gt;<i> Mention forums, teams, IRC, planets, Twitter, etc. here. Get traffic coming
+</I>&gt;<i> to the community.
+</I>
+ Remember these are small, quick &amp; distracting screens (the user is
+waiting for the system to be ready). So the info on each of these has
+to be big, short and obvious to read.
+
+&gt;<i> *Mention Mandriva sparingly. It's important to understand Mageia's heritage
+</I>&gt;<i> but we need to build an identity beyond Mandrake/Mandriva.
+</I>
+Don't mention it at all. It's not the place. And the guy is installing
+Mageia already.
+
+(btw, speaking of a sound scheme, a &quot;wake up&quot; sound event at the end
+of the install process could be nice =&gt; Mageia 3)
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> valuable part of the community!&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (Give users a feeling of importance)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Here's how you can join in&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are they part of the community already (above), or they have an extra
+</I>&gt;<i> step to join? :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Mentioning the identity process ere might be useful.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> *Mention Mandriva sparingly. It's important to understand Mageia's heritage
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but we need to build an identity beyond Mandrake/Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't mention it at all. It's not the place. And the guy is installing
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia already.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I'm with rda - don't even bring it up at all.
+&gt;<i> (btw, speaking of a sound scheme, a &quot;wake up&quot; sound event at the end
+</I>&gt;<i> of the install process could be nice =&gt; Mageia 3)
+</I>&gt;<i> _
+</I>
+I like this idea a lot
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+<PRE>Good points being discussed, all very valid. However, let's get logical
+and define some high-level specifics to work within!
+
+
+Can we establish clearly:
+
+1) The number of slides to be used
+2) How long each slide displays for?
+3) The word count/limit per slide
+4) The subject/theme for each slide
+5) Will content be localised for different languages?
+
+
+After this we can work out more detailed text and any image(s) for each
+slide.
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+(Additionally, sound during install should have an option to mute - a
+&quot;ta da&quot; sound after installing in business environments may be
+inappropriate. Especially on multiple machines in a single environment.
+Just saying.)
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> 1) The number of slides to be used
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+5
+
+2) How long each slide displays for?
+&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Not up to us, that's the scripting. I think maybe a minute?
+
+3) The word count/limit per slide
+&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Depends on 2.
+
+
+&gt;<i> 4) The subject/theme for each slide
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+What we've been trying to discuss.
+
+5) Will content be localised for different languages?
+&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Probably not for Mga2, maybe 3.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After this we can work out more detailed text and any image(s) for each
+</I>&gt;<i> slide.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+We should start that NOW.
+
+Also, why start a new thread for this topic?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Additionally, sound during install should have an option to mute - a &quot;ta
+</I>&gt;<i> da&quot; sound after installing in business environments may be inappropriate.
+</I>&gt;<i> Especially on multiple machines in a single environment. Just saying.)
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> *Mention Mandriva sparingly. It's important to understand Mageia's heritage
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but we need to build an identity beyond Mandrake/Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Don't mention it at all. It's not the place. And the guy is installing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia already.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm with rda - don't even bring it up at all.
+</I>Like Donald I am also with rda, don't mention it.
+&gt;&gt;<i> (btw, speaking of a sound scheme, a &quot;wake up&quot; sound event at the end
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of the install process could be nice =&gt; Mageia 3)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _
+</I>&gt;<i> I like this idea a lot
+</I>I assume this is a installation is complete sound, that would be a good
+idea. I agree with loqo sounds that are being used there should be a way
+for the user to turn them off as well.
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+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) The number of slides to be used
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Cool. Just wanted to be clear.
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> 2) How long each slide displays for?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not up to us, that's the scripting. I think maybe a minute?
+</I>
+
+A very important priority to find this out.
+
+Will it be overall install time divided by 5 - or will the slides loop?
+
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) The word count/limit per slide
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Depends on 2.
+</I>
+
+Finding this number should be really, really high on the To Do list!
+
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> 4) The subject/theme for each slide
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What we've been trying to discuss.
+</I>
+Indeed.
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5) Will content be localised for different languages?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Probably not for Mga2, maybe 3.
+</I>
+Good to know. Thanks! Saves a LOT of work.
+
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After this we can work out more detailed text and any image(s) for
+</I>&gt;<i> each slide.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We should start that NOW.
+</I>
+
+With due respect, how can you paint a house until you build the walls?
+You need structure. Hence getting a word limit and overall topic for
+each slide first.
+
+You cannot just write words. No writer does this. You start with
+structure - theme and word count.
+
+If the limit is 5 big words and 20 smaller words (for example) that
+dictates everything we are trying to write. It is pointless to come up
+with words without a proper format.
+
+So I'm establishing the order in which this process needs to be tackled,
+if we are being professional. A free-for-all over words is not efficient.
+
+If my help is not wanted, I'll step back quietly. Just let me know!
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, why start a new thread for this topic?
+</I>
+I'm sorry if this is not correct procedure. I wanted a straight answer
+to some points and I'm getting about 100 emails a day on various Mageia
+subjects. So I did it for &quot;clarity&quot; as labelled in the subject. This is
+a forked sub-subject about organising and I wanted to treat it as such.
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Additionally, sound during install should have an option to mute
+</I>&gt;<i> - a &quot;ta da&quot; sound after installing in business environments may be
+</I>&gt;<i> inappropriate. Especially on multiple machines in a single
+</I>&gt;<i> environment. Just saying.)
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+<PRE>&gt;&gt;<i> 2) How long each slide displays for?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not up to us, that's the scripting. I think maybe a minute?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A very important priority to find this out.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Will it be overall install time divided by 5 - or will the slides loop?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>As i recall from the install they loop, although I havent watched an
+install for a long time....
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+I'm probably not very popular by talking bluntly, so I apologise again.
+This is how I've learned to get things done and any polite requests for
+changing my style/approach will be taken on board without conflict.
+
+You guys are all awesome and I respect every one of you. I'm proud to be
+a part of this process!
+
+I genuinely love Mageia and want to get the best possible results. I
+wish to see a wide range of users coming to Mageia and loving it as much
+as I do! I also want to make it friendly and clear for newcomers that
+aren't experienced with Linux. Why should Ubuntu get them all?
+;)
+
+
+
+So... I've compiled some text on PiratePad, at Trish's request and I
+hope it proves useful as a starting point. Over to you!
+
+<A HREF="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</A>
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Guys, please:
+ - use the Wiki to check in your progress and to provide answers:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Artwork_Installer">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Artwork_Installer</A> here (updated in this
+case to reflect your questions/answers). It makes for a more stable
+reference;
+ - use the list archives too to know where you stand. There has been
+several discussions about the installer screens story and _contents_
+and some about the format already. There already has been two series
+of rendering through the artwork team, both have been rejected and we
+need a new one by this week, unless we just cancel the installer
+screens for this release.
+
+On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 01:34, loqo &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">hoverflydesign at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 28/03/12 01:15, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3) The word count/limit per slide
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Depends on 2.
+</I>
+Depends on how it is actually rendered and it still keeps readable.
+
+&gt;<i> With due respect, how can you paint a house until you build the walls?
+</I>
+Building software is not like building a house.
+
+&gt;<i> It is pointless to come up with words without a proper format.
+</I>
+It is pointless to talk about format without the actual story to tell
+first. Then, talk about the format.
+
+&gt;<i> if we are being professional.
+</I>
+&quot;being professional&quot; is void of meaning and purpose. Call it &quot;being
+organized&quot; if you want.
+
+&gt;<i> If my help is not wanted, I'll step back quietly. Just let me know!
+</I>
+It's not that. It's that there has been some work already on the list
+(that would benefit from being written/stored in the Wiki as an &quot;in
+progress&quot; document), and starting all over again every week won't
+help.
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+&gt;<i> So... I've compiled some text on PiratePad, at Trish's request and I
+</I>&gt;<i> hope it proves useful as a starting point. Over to you!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</A>
+</I>
+I've added some comments in the chat area. Can people please go over
+and edit, add, edit - it would be good to have something nearly-final to
+vote on by the time of our meeting tonight.
+
+NB: each slide (5 of them) must have NO MORE than 20 words - less if
+you can do it!
+
+Cheers,
+
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+<PRE>On 28/03/12 18:05, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Guys, please:
+</I>&gt;<i> - use the Wiki to check in your progress and to provide answers:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Artwork_Installer">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Artwork_Installer</A> here (updated in this
+</I>&gt;<i> case to reflect your questions/answers). It makes for a more stable
+</I>&gt;<i> reference;
+</I>&gt;<i> - use the list archives too to know where you stand. There has been
+</I>&gt;<i> several discussions about the installer screens story and _contents_
+</I>&gt;<i> and some about the format already. There already has been two series
+</I>&gt;<i> of rendering through the artwork team, both have been rejected and we
+</I>&gt;<i> need a new one by this week, unless we just cancel the installer
+</I>&gt;<i> screens for this release.
+</I>
+Hi Romain,
+
+I take your points. I was also unaware of all the existing work. Thank
+you for highlighting this and linking!
+
+loqo
+
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 01:34, loqo&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">hoverflydesign at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 28/03/12 01:15, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3) The word count/limit per slide
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Depends on 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> Depends on how it is actually rendered and it still keeps readable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> With due respect, how can you paint a house until you build the walls?
+</I>&gt;<i> Building software is not like building a house.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is pointless to come up with words without a proper format.
+</I>&gt;<i> It is pointless to talk about format without the actual story to tell
+</I>&gt;<i> first. Then, talk about the format.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if we are being professional.
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;being professional&quot; is void of meaning and purpose. Call it &quot;being
+</I>&gt;<i> organized&quot; if you want.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If my help is not wanted, I'll step back quietly. Just let me know!
+</I>&gt;<i> It's not that. It's that there has been some work already on the list
+</I>&gt;<i> (that would benefit from being written/stored in the Wiki as an &quot;in
+</I>&gt;<i> progress&quot; document), and starting all over again every week won't
+</I>&gt;<i> help.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+&gt;<i> - use the Wiki to check in your progress and to provide answers:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Artwork_Installer">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Artwork_Installer</A> here (updated in this
+</I>&gt;<i> case to reflect your questions/answers). It makes for a more stable
+</I>&gt;<i> reference;
+</I>
+The install images linked on this page are those from Mageia 1, but
+they give a good idea of how much text will fit on an install screen.
+
+Anyway: get over to the piratepad and get started - we know more or
+less what we want, and if you guys leave me to write it at the last
+minute... 8-)
+
+Cheers!
+
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+ <B>R&#233;mi Verschelde</B>
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+&gt;<i> Meeting time is 19h00 UTC Wednesday, is that okay for everyone? I can
+</I>&gt;<i> do it for this meeting, but once our clocks go back, I'd like to change
+</I>&gt;<i> it to 20h00 or 21h00.
+</I>
+Reminder: the marketing meeting will be at 19h00 UTC today, i.e. in
+about thirty minutes.
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+prevent others from doing so ;) ).
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/26 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Meeting time is 19h00 UTC Wednesday, is that okay for everyone? I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; can do it for this meeting, but once our clocks go back, I'd like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to change it to 20h00 or 21h00.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Reminder: the marketing meeting will be at 19h00 UTC today, i.e. in
+</I>&gt;<i> about thirty minutes.
+</I>&gt;<i> (I tend to forget scheduled meetings so I send this reminder to
+</I>&gt;<i> prevent others from doing so ;) ).
+</I>
+Thanks R&#233;mi!
+
+--
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+Head over here: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_sandbox">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_sandbox</A>
+
+you'll see there's a new space for us to work on the release texts
+together. Get your wiki login if you don't already have it, and dive in!
+
+Cheers,
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+
+There's a piratepad in progress here:
+
+<A HREF="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</A>
+
+Please head over there and edit or comment. We'd like to finalise these
+texts within 24 hours, so the minute you have some time...
+
+Sorry if the connection is a bit iffy - the blocnotes at parinux.net
+appears not to be available just now.
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
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+For those who couldn't make it, meeting logs are here:
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+
+Please note the second topic about using the Sandbox for the release
+texts. We have an absolute deadline of April 23rd to complete these,
+and ideally we should be ready a week earlier, to allow the i18n team
+to do their work.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Thu Mar 29 07:30:40 EST 2012
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's a piratepad in progress here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+But which one is it? I see at least three versions....
+
+
+&gt;<i> Please head over there and edit or comment. We'd like to finalise these
+</I>&gt;<i> texts within 24 hours, so the minute you have some time...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry if the connection is a bit iffy - the blocnotes at parinux.net
+</I>&gt;<i> appears not to be available just now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+</I>&gt;<i> -35.67896, 142.66637
+</I>&gt;<i> Thu Mar 29 07:27:26 EST 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+</I>&gt;<i> andromeda up 2 day(s), 49 hour(s), 35 min.
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Max,
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But which one is it? I see at least three versions....
+</I>
+The 5 at the top are what we're currently working on - the ones below
+are previous versions, suggestions etc.
+
+Any comments?
+
+--
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+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Thu Mar 29 10:03:54 EST 2012
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>I Sebastian have done some changes to the pad:
+<A HREF="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</A>
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+ <B>Josh King (dotmil)</B>
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+<PRE>On 03/25/2012 09:12 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Josh, can you please find out how we manage the back-end stuff? Maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> talk to people on the Sysadmin team?
+</I> Sorry for the slow reply. School work was eating my up the past few days.
+
+To admin the planet, all that is needed in the password for
+<A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/admin/login.php">http://planet.mageia.org/en/admin/login.php</A>
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+I was told marcom had this? Is this true?
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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+<PRE>Below are the text's that I (Sebastian sebsebseb) think are the best so
+far, but if other people want to continue working on the text's please
+do so on the pad. <A HREF="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</A>
+
+1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of users,
+developers, and advocates from around the world. (18 words)
+
+2. Mageia is international - you can use it and be part of our community
+in your own language. (17 words)
+
+3. Mageia is Open Source - choose from thousands of app(lications)s.
+Office, Internet, Development, Education, and other types of software.
+(18 words)
+
+Open Source for 3 not Free Software since we have the tainted repo for
+example.
+
+4. Mageia Control Center allows easy access to setting up user accounts,
+hardware and software, networking, security and more. (18 words)
+
+5. Using Mageia makes you part of our community - please come and join
+us! www.mageia.org (14)
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi Josh,
+
+&gt;<i> To admin the planet, all that is needed in the password for
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/admin/login.php">http://planet.mageia.org/en/admin/login.php</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was told marcom had this? Is this true?
+</I>
+I think you need to talk to Dams, Damien Lallement:
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt;, or coincoin on IRC.
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V
+-35.67896, 142.66637
+Thu Mar 29 14:09:49 EST 2012
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
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+&gt;<i> 1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of users, developers, and advocates from around the world. (18 words)
+</I>
+Positive form please: st like &quot;Mageia is more than&quot;
+
+&gt;<i> 3. Mageia is Open Source - choose from thousands of app(lications)s. Office, Internet, Development, Education, and other types of software. (18 words)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Open Source for 3 not Free Software since we have the tainted repo for example.
+</I>
+_nonfree_ isn't free software, and it's not open source either. Tainted is free software/open source but potentially subject to patents in some significant places for us.
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+<PRE>Alright people, we have our texts (pretty much). Everything else is just a
+matter of wording. Let's start talking artwork.
+I like the basic design and color scheme for Guala's earlier images. Let's
+start with that.
+How about:
+1. Community - something like a LAN party, a whole bunch of stylized people
+sitting at computers with the Mageia logo on them.
+2. International - Stylized globe or map of the world with Mageia cauldrons
+in various different places, connected as if a network.
+3. Open Source - Maybe some snapshots of running applications.
+4. MCC - Snapshots of the MCC.
+5. Community - Maybe back to the first image, maybe a variation on the same
+thing.
+
+
+On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Le 29 mars 2012 &#224; 04:38, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt; a
+</I>&gt;<i> &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1. Mageia isn't just a Linux distribution: we're a community of users,
+</I>&gt;<i> developers, and advocates from around the world. (18 words)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Positive form please: st like &quot;Mageia is more than&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 3. Mageia is Open Source - choose from thousands of app(lications)s.
+</I>&gt;<i> Office, Internet, Development, Education, and other types of software. (18
+</I>&gt;<i> words)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Open Source for 3 not Free Software since we have the tainted repo for
+</I>&gt;<i> example.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _nonfree_ isn't free software, and it's not open source either. Tainted is
+</I>&gt;<i> free software/open source but potentially subject to patents in some
+</I>&gt;<i> significant places for us.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+
+&gt;<i> I like the basic design and color scheme for Guala's earlier images.
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's start with that.
+</I>&gt;<i> How about:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Community - something like a LAN party, a whole bunch of stylized
+</I>&gt;<i> people sitting at computers with the Mageia logo on them.
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. International - Stylized globe or map of the world with Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldrons in various different places, connected as if a network.
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Open Source - Maybe some snapshots of running applications.
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. MCC - Snapshots of the MCC.
+</I>&gt;<i> 5. Community - Maybe back to the first image, maybe a variation on
+</I>&gt;<i> the same thing.
+</I>
+Sounds fine - we'll have the final form of the words by the weekend,
+but the numbers of words won't change.
+
+Let's have a look at the images when you have a first draft?
+
+Cheers!
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+ <B>Josh King (dotmil)</B>
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+<PRE>I know everyone is busy with the installer texts and images.
+Unfortunately that's not my strong suit so I haven't had much to add.
+
+What I do have is some ideas I would like feedback and comments on
+before we have another mageiapeople.org fiasco. The 2 main ideas I have are
+
+1) a newsletter - biweekly or whatever frequency fits to update
+subscribers on whats new in Magia. It would also be a good place for
+developer/team member interviews, and maybe a &quot;howto&quot; section. I don't
+claim to be a writer by any means so this would need to be a
+collaborative effort
+
+2) A Mageia news site. A very close friend of mine started this with
+Debian news years ago and it has grown into one of the more respected
+tech sites, I could see this could duplicate content from the mailing
+letter, but also maybe include weekly updates on the discussions on
+-discuss, -dev, etc. for those who may be interested.
+
+I'm just spit balling here but I really think we need to put forth the
+effort to market Mageia around the 2 release and after, Hopefully these
+ideas get the ball rolling. I'd be thrilled to hear they're great, but
+am prepared to be shot down again if so be it. I'd LOVE to hear from
+others on how to market mageia beyond the occasional announcement on the
+news sites around the web. Mageia is amazing and people need to know that!
+
+So what do you think of 1 or 2, and what are your suggestions for more
+ideas?
+
+Thanks!
+Josh
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+<PRE>On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 04:51, Josh King (dotmil) &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> What I do have is some ideas I would like feedback and comments on before we
+</I>&gt;<i> have another mageiapeople.org fiasco.
+</I>
+Why do you call it a fiasco?
+
+&gt;<i> 1) a newsletter [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) A Mageia news site. [...]
+</I>
+To be short; these are good ideas;
+
+ * on the _content_:
+ - we considered (and started) interviews on the blog, several
+months ago (see <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_interviews">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_interviews</A> ) but
+it didn't live through, but it's still free to pick up by someone to
+relist people to interview and actually do/write/review/publish these
+on the blog.
+ - howtos: you should ping documentation team, as they may have
+ideas and articles already ready for that kind of thing.
+ - there used to be summaries of what happened on the mailing-lists,
+in the Mandriva era (IIRC, awilliamson, ofaurax's &quot;jus de cuisson&quot; and
+many other contributors). Not sure about now.
+
+ * on the _format_:
+ - I'd skip the mail newsletter format; it's a one-way, one-time
+publication that stays in a inbox; and it's highly coupled to a list
+of subscribers to maintain; a blog, a magazine, a planet, publish it
+in a more interactive way, without controlled subscription, and keep
+it online and referenced for years;
+ - the news site: let's see what we can do with a Planet platform to
+render blogs like that first; if that's not concluding an experience,
+and if you can find the right platform and people to set it up and
+maintain it as a news site, then why not.
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 04:51, Josh King (dotmil)&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What I do have is some ideas I would like feedback and comments on before we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have another mageiapeople.org fiasco.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why do you call it a fiasco?
+</I>
+Ok poor choice of words. I've spent 2 weeks now trying to track down who
+has responsibility to the planet with no luck yet. Everyone points at
+everyone else. Without the moonmoon admin credentials there's not much
+that can be done. The planetmagiea site was running in under 5 hours
+with 4 colaborators.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1) a newsletter [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2) A Mageia news site. [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To be short; these are good ideas;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * on the _content_:
+</I>&gt;<i> - we considered (and started) interviews on the blog, several
+</I>&gt;<i> months ago (see <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_interviews">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_interviews</A> ) but
+</I>&gt;<i> it didn't live through, but it's still free to pick up by someone to
+</I>&gt;<i> relist people to interview and actually do/write/review/publish these
+</I>&gt;<i> on the blog.
+</I>&gt;<i> - howtos: you should ping documentation team, as they may have
+</I>&gt;<i> ideas and articles already ready for that kind of thing.
+</I>&gt;<i> - there used to be summaries of what happened on the mailing-lists,
+</I>&gt;<i> in the Mandriva era (IIRC, awilliamson, ofaurax's &quot;jus de cuisson&quot; and
+</I>&gt;<i> many other contributors). Not sure about now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I'd even be willing to write there Ala Debian's newsletter if needed to
+get things started.
+
+&gt;<i> * on the _format_:
+</I>&gt;<i> - I'd skip the mail newsletter format; it's a one-way, one-time
+</I>&gt;<i> publication that stays in a inbox; and it's highly coupled to a list
+</I>&gt;<i> of subscribers to maintain; a blog, a magazine, a planet, publish it
+</I>&gt;<i> in a more interactive way, without controlled subscription, and keep
+</I>&gt;<i> it online and referenced for years;
+</I>
+Agree, the newsletter was my last choice as well.
+
+&gt;<i> - the news site: let's see what we can do with a Planet platform to
+</I>&gt;<i> render blogs like that first; if that's not concluding an experience,
+</I>&gt;<i> and if you can find the right platform and people to set it up and
+</I>&gt;<i> maintain it as a news site, then why not.
+</I>
+Sounds good. If I can get an answer from anyone involved with the planet
+site currently I'd be more than happy to take it over. I also have a
+server provider willing to help with a bit of minor advertising on the
+site. Do you know anyone else besides who has previously been suggested
+that may know the admin credentials to the planet?
+
+I's just like to see more of a web based ecosystem for Mga2, As it is,
+there;s the official sites, the language specific sites, and not much
+more. More websites unfortunately seems to generate more buzz.
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+&gt;<i> On 03/30/2012 02:59 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 04:51, Josh King (dotmil)&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What I do have is some ideas I would like feedback and comments on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> before we
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have another mageiapeople.org fiasco.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why do you call it a fiasco?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok poor choice of words. I've spent 2 weeks now trying to track down who
+</I>&gt;<i> has responsibility to the planet with no luck yet. Everyone points at
+</I>&gt;<i> everyone else. Without the moonmoon admin credentials there's not much
+</I>&gt;<i> that can be done. The planetmagiea site was running in under 5 hours
+</I>&gt;<i> with 4 colaborators.
+</I>
+Sorry, mageiapeople. Only on cup of coffee #1 :-)
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+&gt;<i> On 03/30/2012 06:14 AM, Josh King (dotmil) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 03/30/2012 02:59 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 04:51, Josh King (dotmil)&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">josh at linuxpunks.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What I do have is some ideas I would like feedback and comments on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> before we
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have another mageiapeople.org fiasco.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Why do you call it a fiasco?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ok poor choice of words. I've spent 2 weeks now trying to track down who
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> has responsibility to the planet with no luck yet. Everyone points at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> everyone else. Without the moonmoon admin credentials there's not much
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that can be done. The planetmagiea site was running in under 5 hours
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with 4 colaborators.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry, mageiapeople. Only on cup of coffee #1 :-)
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Last reply to myself, but something like this is what I'm envisioning.
+Including off site reviews, news articles, dev interviews, and general
+evangelism. There could be a disclaimer to stat this it&#8217;s affiliated
+with Maheia.or proper in way way too
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+forgot the link: <A HREF="http://www.debian-news.net/">http://www.debian-news.net/</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds good. If I can get an answer from anyone involved with the planet
+</I>&gt;<i> site currently I'd be more than happy to take it over. I also have a server
+</I>&gt;<i> provider willing to help with a bit of minor advertising on the site. Do
+</I>&gt;<i> you know anyone else besides who has previously been suggested that may
+</I>&gt;<i> know the admin credentials to the planet?
+</I>
+Did you ask damsweb ? He setup the planet website, and has credentials
+to add new feeds or do other changes.
+
+However it's true that information about who needs to be contacted to
+add a new feed is currently missing on the page.
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Josh King (dotmil) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sounds good. If I can get an answer from anyone involved with the planet
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> site currently I'd be more than happy to take it over. I also have a server
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> provider willing to help with a bit of minor advertising on the site. Do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you know anyone else besides who has previously been suggested that may
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> know the admin credentials to the planet?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Did you ask damsweb ? He setup the planet website, and has credentials
+</I>&gt;<i> to add new feeds or do other changes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+i dont recall if I emailed him. I'll look up his address and try again.
+Thanks!
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+ <B>Josh King (dotmil)</B>
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+<PRE>On 03/30/2012 06:50 AM, Josh King (dotmil) wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 03/30/2012 07:45 AM, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Josh King (dotmil) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sounds good. If I can get an answer from anyone involved with the planet
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> site currently I'd be more than happy to take it over. I also have a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> server
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> provider willing to help with a bit of minor advertising on the site. Do
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> you know anyone else besides who has previously been suggested that may
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> know the admin credentials to the planet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Did you ask damsweb ? He setup the planet website, and has credentials
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to add new feeds or do other changes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i dont recall if I emailed him. I'll look up his address and try again.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks!
+</I>On a different note, the news site look to be different enough from the
+planet. Or I am missing something again? As I said before I can host
+there myself and any proceeds would go back to Mageia. Maybe even add
+the Mageia store for t-shirts, etc. that some have been asking for
+(myself included) :-)
+
+Thoughts? New ideas for marketing/community building we can do? The more
+people we get involved the better
+
+Josh
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+<PRE>On 03/30/2012 06:50 AM, Josh King (dotmil) wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 03/30/2012 07:45 AM, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> Did you ask damsweb ? He setup the planet website, and has credentials
+</I>a-marketing
+&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Does anyone have contact (email) for him? I can't seem to catch him online
+--
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+&gt;<i> Do you know anyone else besides who has previously been suggested that
+</I>&gt;<i> may know the admin credentials to the planet?
+</I>
+Damien contacted you didn't he?
+
+Started <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Planets</A> to document the thing. The
+&quot;how to get referenced&quot; bit is to be ported to the planet side bar
+(and the whole wiki article may be removed once we update completely
+the planet UI).
+
+In the meantime, candidates to add their blog to the planets may just
+ping this list.
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+<PRE>On 03/28/2012 11:00 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Josh,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To admin the planet, all that is needed in the password for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://planet.mageia.org/en/admin/login.php">http://planet.mageia.org/en/admin/login.php</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was told marcom had this? Is this true?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think you need to talk to Dams, Damien Lallement:
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt;, or coincoin on IRC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>
+Still no response on this. Will keep you updated, but all we need is the
+admin password for moonmoon and I can take it from there. Patricia, if
+nothing is heard back can you bring this up at the next council meeting
+perhaps?
+
+Also, I think the Planet should remain just a planet (blogs only). If we
+want an e-zine type of site then that should be done separately. Just my
+thoughts
+
+
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+Applied Sciences Technikum Wien. This year the Linuxwochen are
+co-located with the Libre Graphics Meeting, which is held from 2.-5.
+of May in the same building.
+There are some days left until the Call for Papers and Presentations
+end, the deadline is still April the 1st. This year we like to cover
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+Content Management &amp; Webdevelopment
+GIS, GeoDaten and OpenData
+IT Security
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+Smartphones - hardware and software
+Software Devlopment from applications until embedded devices
+Spieleentwicklung &amp; Game Design &amp; Level Editing
+System administration, Cloud &amp; Cluster and Virtualisierung
+
+We accept talks and workshops in english and german. You can submit
+them with our submission system: <A HREF="http://cfp.linuxwochen.at/cfp_wien/">http://cfp.linuxwochen.at/cfp_wien/</A>
+If you like to have a booth for your project, please write a mail with
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+<LI><A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
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+<LI><A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
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+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
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+<LI><A HREF="000690.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
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+<LI><A HREF="000702.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000708.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000755.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000761.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000763.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000764.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000765.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000766.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000768.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000769.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000770.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000772.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000705.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000710.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000538.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000540.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000542.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000546.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000549.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000555.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000556.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000557.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000560.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000562.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000564.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000568.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000577.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000578.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000579.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000596.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000597.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000599.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000598.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000600.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000603.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000604.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000610.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000612.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000614.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000616.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000624.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000628.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000629.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000631.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000633.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000635.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000638.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom Meeting 14 March
+</A><A NAME="638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000640.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000687.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000707.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000721.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000722.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000724.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000725.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000727.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000734.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000744.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000746.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000748.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts workspace
+</A><A NAME="749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000750.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000751.html">[Mageia-marketing] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000753.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000757.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000760.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000928.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxwochen Wien - Call For Papers
+</A><A NAME="928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Jahre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000634.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000541.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000544.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000590.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000591.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000595.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000601.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000602.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000605.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000607.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000639.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom Meeting 14 March
+</A><A NAME="639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000688.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000712.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000570.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000565.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation splash screens...
+</A><A NAME="565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000566.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000571.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation splash screens updated...
+</A><A NAME="571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000572.html">[Mageia-marketing] New set of splash screens (gray edition)
+</A><A NAME="572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000574.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000554.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000573.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000584.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000719.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000738.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000752.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000759.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000592.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000615.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000622.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000711.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000718.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000736.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000741.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000548.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000551.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000550.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000552.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000553.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000567.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000575.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000580.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000581.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000582.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000583.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000587.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000606.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000608.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000617.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000619.html">[Mageia-marketing] Okay time for some shuteye...
+</A><A NAME="619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000636.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000642.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000569.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000613.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000717.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000731.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000747.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000576.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000586.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000706.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000728.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000735.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000743.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000758.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000762.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000623.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>josh at linuxpunks.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000699.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000715.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000716.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000729.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000732.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000737.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000740.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000742.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000745.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000537.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000539.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000543.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000545.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000547.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000559.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000558.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000561.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000563.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000588.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000589.html">[Mageia-marketing] My reply to Esteban, Max, and Bradley.
+</A><A NAME="589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000593.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000594.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000609.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000611.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000618.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000620.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000621.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work! another reply
+</A><A NAME="621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000625.html">[Mageia-marketing] Time zones and Mageia marketing team meetings
+</A><A NAME="625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000627.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000630.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000632.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000637.html">[Mageia-marketing] I think we should have a joint marketing team and artwork team meeting rather soon.
+</A><A NAME="637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000641.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-marketing] Regarding podcasts
+</A><A NAME="666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-marketing] Regarding Mageia and social networking sites
+</A><A NAME="667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-marketing] We should attract new/potential contributors
+</A><A NAME="668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000689.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000692.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000693.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000695.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000697.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000700.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000701.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000703.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000704.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000713.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000714.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000720.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000723.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000726.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000733.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000739.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000754.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000756.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000585.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000626.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000709.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000730.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000767.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 30 20:10:02 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:14:23 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
+ Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i>
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+ <h1>March 2012 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Mar 1 21:52:22 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 30 20:10:02 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 237<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000537.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000538.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000539.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000540.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000541.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000542.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000543.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000544.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000545.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000546.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000547.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000548.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000551.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000549.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000550.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000552.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000553.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000554.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000555.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000556.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000557.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000559.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000558.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000561.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000560.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000562.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000563.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000564.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000565.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation splash screens...
+</A><A NAME="565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000566.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000567.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000568.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000569.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000570.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000571.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation splash screens updated...
+</A><A NAME="571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000572.html">[Mageia-marketing] New set of splash screens (gray edition)
+</A><A NAME="572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000573.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000574.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000575.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000576.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000580.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000581.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000577.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000578.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000579.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000582.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000583.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000584.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000585.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000586.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000587.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000588.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000589.html">[Mageia-marketing] My reply to Esteban, Max, and Bradley.
+</A><A NAME="589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000590.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000591.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000592.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000593.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000594.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000595.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000596.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000597.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000599.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000928.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxwochen Wien - Call For Papers
+</A><A NAME="928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Jahre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000598.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000600.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000601.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000602.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000603.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000604.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000605.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000606.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000607.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000608.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000609.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000610.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000611.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000612.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000613.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000614.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000615.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000616.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000617.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000619.html">[Mageia-marketing] Okay time for some shuteye...
+</A><A NAME="619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000618.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000620.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000621.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work! another reply
+</A><A NAME="621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000622.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000623.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>josh at linuxpunks.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000624.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000625.html">[Mageia-marketing] Time zones and Mageia marketing team meetings
+</A><A NAME="625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000626.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000627.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000628.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000629.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000630.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000631.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000632.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000633.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000634.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000635.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000636.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000637.html">[Mageia-marketing] I think we should have a joint marketing team and artwork team meeting rather soon.
+</A><A NAME="637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000638.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom Meeting 14 March
+</A><A NAME="638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000639.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom Meeting 14 March
+</A><A NAME="639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000640.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000641.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000642.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-marketing] Regarding podcasts
+</A><A NAME="666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-marketing] Regarding Mageia and social networking sites
+</A><A NAME="667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-marketing] We should attract new/potential contributors
+</A><A NAME="668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000687.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000688.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000689.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000690.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000691.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000692.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000693.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000694.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000695.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000696.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000697.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000698.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000699.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000700.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000701.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000702.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000703.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000704.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000705.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000706.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000707.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000708.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000709.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000710.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000712.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000711.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000713.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000714.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000715.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000716.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000717.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000718.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000719.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000720.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000721.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000722.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000723.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000724.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000725.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000726.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000727.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000728.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000729.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000730.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000731.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000732.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000733.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000734.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000735.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000736.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000737.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000738.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000739.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000740.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000741.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000742.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000743.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000744.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000745.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000746.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000747.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000748.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts workspace
+</A><A NAME="749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000750.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000751.html">[Mageia-marketing] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000752.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000753.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000754.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000755.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000756.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000757.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000758.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000759.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000760.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000761.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000762.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000763.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000764.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000765.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000766.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000768.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000769.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000767.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000770.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000772.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 30 20:10:02 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:14:23 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <h1>March 2012 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Mar 1 21:52:22 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 30 20:10:02 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 237<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000689.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000691.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000692.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000594.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000608.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000612.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000573.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000574.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000575.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000580.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000578.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000641.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000615.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000576.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000581.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000584.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000586.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000587.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000551.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000554.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000716.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000722.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000723.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000699.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000701.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000702.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000703.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000709.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000710.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000712.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000711.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000714.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000715.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000637.html">[Mageia-marketing] I think we should have a joint marketing team and artwork team meeting rather soon.
+</A><A NAME="637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000633.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000634.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000635.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000636.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000640.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000571.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation splash screens updated...
+</A><A NAME="571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000565.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation splash screens...
+</A><A NAME="565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000719.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000720.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000721.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000730.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000732.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000733.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000734.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000735.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000736.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000739.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000742.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000744.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000737.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000738.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000740.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000741.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000743.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000745.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000746.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000577.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000583.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000593.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000597.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000642.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000928.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxwochen Wien - Call For Papers
+</A><A NAME="928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Jahre
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000537.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000538.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000539.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000556.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000559.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000561.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000562.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000696.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000697.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000698.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000700.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000704.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000705.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000706.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000707.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000708.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000713.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000718.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000638.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom Meeting 14 March
+</A><A NAME="638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000639.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom Meeting 14 March
+</A><A NAME="639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000687.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000688.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000690.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000693.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000694.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000695.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000724.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000726.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000727.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000731.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000747.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000748.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000557.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000558.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000560.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000563.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000564.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000590.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000589.html">[Mageia-marketing] My reply to Esteban, Max, and Bradley.
+</A><A NAME="589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000572.html">[Mageia-marketing] New set of splash screens (gray edition)
+</A><A NAME="572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000627.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000628.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000629.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000630.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000631.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000632.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000619.html">[Mageia-marketing] Okay time for some shuteye...
+</A><A NAME="619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000605.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000609.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000761.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000762.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000763.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000764.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000765.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000766.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000768.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000769.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000767.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000770.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-marketing] Regarding Mageia and social networking sites
+</A><A NAME="667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-marketing] Regarding podcasts
+</A><A NAME="666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts workspace
+</A><A NAME="749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000717.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000566.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000567.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000568.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000569.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000570.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000540.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000541.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000542.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000543.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000544.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000545.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000546.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000547.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000548.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000549.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000550.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000552.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000553.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000555.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000725.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000728.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000729.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000755.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000757.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000772.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000625.html">[Mageia-marketing] Time zones and Mageia marketing team meetings
+</A><A NAME="625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000598.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000600.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000601.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000603.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000606.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000607.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000610.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000611.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000617.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000620.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000621.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work! another reply
+</A><A NAME="621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000751.html">[Mageia-marketing] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000750.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000752.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000753.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000754.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000756.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000758.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000759.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000760.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000579.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000582.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000585.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000588.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000591.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000592.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000595.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000596.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000599.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000602.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000604.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000613.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000614.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000616.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000622.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000623.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>josh at linuxpunks.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000626.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000618.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000624.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-marketing] We should attract new/potential contributors
+</A><A NAME="668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 30 20:10:02 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:14:23 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
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+
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <h1>March 2012 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Mar 1 21:52:22 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 30 20:10:02 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 237<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01330635142- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000537.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330635142-01330650930- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000538.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330635142-01330650930-01330714029- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000539.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330635142-01330650930-01330714029-01331023111- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000556.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330635142-01330650930-01330714029-01331023111-01331043833- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000559.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330981933- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000540.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330981933-01330985056- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000541.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000542.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000543.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01330989192- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000544.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01330989192-01330989892- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000545.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01330990893- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000546.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01330990893-01330992453- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000547.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01330990893-01330992453-01331004839- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000548.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01330990893-01330992453-01331004839-01331007296- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000549.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01330990893-01330992453-01331004839-01331007296-01331009501- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000553.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01331007834- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000552.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330981933-01330985056-01330987503-01330988344-01331007834-01331022950- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000555.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01330981933-01331007337- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000550.html">[Mageia-marketing] Team elections
+</A><A NAME="550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331005468- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000551.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331005468-01331017998- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000554.html">[Mageia-marketing] Any progress on the creation of our LQ forum yet?
+</A><A NAME="554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331028160- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000557.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331028160-01331045667- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000558.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331028160-01331045667-01331063355- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000560.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331028160-01331045667-01331063355-01331083498- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000563.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331028160-01331045667-01331063355-01331083498-01331085419- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000564.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331028160-01331045667-01331063355-01331083498-01331085419-01331579444- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000590.html">[Mageia-marketing] More on council representation
+</A><A NAME="590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331051753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000561.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331051753-01331064016- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000562.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks
+</A><A NAME="562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331216192- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000565.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation splash screens...
+</A><A NAME="565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331267214- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000566.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331267214-01331270931- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000567.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331267214-01331274860- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000568.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331267214-01331274860-01331294764- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000570.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331267214-01331293773- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000569.html">[Mageia-marketing] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331306221- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000571.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installation splash screens updated...
+</A><A NAME="571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331405885- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000572.html">[Mageia-marketing] New set of splash screens (gray edition)
+</A><A NAME="572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331504183- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000573.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331504183-01331530418- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000574.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Esteban Mora
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331504183-01331530418-01331540570- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000575.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01331504183-01331530418-01331548895- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000578.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331504183-01331547559- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000576.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331504183-01331547559-01331548414- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000581.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331504183-01331547559-01331548414-01331559279- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000584.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331504183-01331547559-01331548414-01331559279-01331564411- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000586.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331504183-01331547559-01331548414-01331559279-01331567217- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000587.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331504183-01331547679- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000580.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Splash screens ready
+</A><A NAME="580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331548673- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000577.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331548673-01331557363- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000583.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331548673-01331580833- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000593.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331548673-01331580833-01331584937- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000597.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331549389- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000579.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331549389-01331555420- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000582.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331549389-01331562856- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000585.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331549389-01331575598- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000588.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331549389-01331575598-01331583904- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000595.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000596.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687-01331587286- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000602.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687-01331587286-01331588287- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000604.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687-01331587286-01331588287-01331595443- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000605.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687-01331587286-01331588287-01331595443-01331601669- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000609.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687-01331587286-01331588287-01331595443-01331833416- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687-01331587286-01331588287-01331595443-01331833416-01331837240- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687-01331587286-01331588287-01331595443-01331833416-01331837240-01331837374- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331549389-01331575598-01331584687-01331587286-01331588287-01331595443-01331833416-01331837240-01331837374-01331837558- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-marketing] Open thoughts for discussion
+</A><A NAME="646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331549389-01331579563- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000591.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331549389-01331579563-01331579772- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000592.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331549389-01331585128- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000599.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331549389-01331585128-01331628915- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000613.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331549389-01331585128-01331628915-01331630486- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000614.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead
+</A><A NAME="614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331549389-01331640958- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000616.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331549389-01331640958-01331664693- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000618.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331549389-01331640958-01331664693-01331673530- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000622.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331576613- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000589.html">[Mageia-marketing] My reply to Esteban, Max, and Bradley.
+</A><A NAME="589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331581434- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000594.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331581434-01331601357- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000608.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331581434-01331601357-01331605326- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000612.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331585244- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000928.html">[Mageia-marketing] Linuxwochen Wien - Call For Papers
+</A><A NAME="928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Jahre
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331585823- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000598.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331585823-01331586802- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000600.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331585823-01331586802-01331586941- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000601.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331585823-01331586802-01331586941-01331587720- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000603.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01331585823-01331586802-01331600721- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000606.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331585823-01331586802-01331600721-01331600984- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000607.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331585823-01331586802-01331600721-01331602018- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000610.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331585823-01331586802-01331600721-01331602018-01331603643- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000611.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331585823-01331586802-01331600721-01331602018-01331655076- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000617.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331585823-01331586802-01331600721-01331602018-01331655076-01331668559- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000620.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work!
+</A><A NAME="620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331585823-01331586802-01331600721-01331602018-01331655076-01331670178- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000621.html">[Mageia-marketing] To work! another reply
+</A><A NAME="621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331633034- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000615.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Installer texts
+</A><A NAME="615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331663964- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000619.html">[Mageia-marketing] Okay time for some shuteye...
+</A><A NAME="619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331673646- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000623.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>josh at linuxpunks.com
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331673646-01331674448- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000624.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331673646-01331674448-01331675173- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000626.html">[Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS
+</A><A NAME="626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331674901- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000625.html">[Mageia-marketing] Time zones and Mageia marketing team meetings
+</A><A NAME="625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331676263- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000627.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331676263-01331679025- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000628.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331676263-01331679464- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000629.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331676263-01331679464-01331681032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000630.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331676263-01331681728- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000631.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331676263-01331681728-01331682330- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000632.html">[Mageia-marketing] Ok mid night for the slide show image text :).
+</A><A NAME="632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331685964- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000633.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331685964-01331689903- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000634.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331685964-01331689903-01331691361- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000635.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01331685964-01331689903-01331757994- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000640.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331685964-01331713850- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000636.html">[Mageia-marketing] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331754865- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000637.html">[Mageia-marketing] I think we should have a joint marketing team and artwork team meeting rather soon.
+</A><A NAME="637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331757179- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000638.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom Meeting 14 March
+</A><A NAME="638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331757179-01331757293- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000639.html">[Mageia-marketing] Marcom Meeting 14 March
+</A><A NAME="639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331760389- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000641.html">[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] Install screen texts
+</A><A NAME="641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331828538- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000642.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331828538-01332034149- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331828538-01332034149-01332068569- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-marketing] Licking my wounds...
+</A><A NAME="664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331844266- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331844266-01331844459- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331844266-01331844929- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331844266-01331844929-01331846357- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01331844266-01331844929-01331846533- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331844266-01331844929-01331846533-01331848217- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331844266-01331844929-01331846533-01331853322- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331844266-01331844929-01331846533-01331994624- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331844266-01331844929-01331846533-01331994624-01332009817- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331844266-01331844929-01331846533-01331994624-01332009817-01332012142- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331844266-01331893725- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331844266-01331903830- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331844266-01331993699- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331844266-01331993699-01332010686- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01331844266-01331993699-01332020715- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331844266-01331993699-01332020715-01332031694- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork
+</A><A NAME="662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332187613- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332187613-01332220880- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941-01332288657- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941-01332288657-01332293598- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941-01332288657-01332293598-01332297389- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941-01332288657-01332293598-01332297389-01332297845- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941-01332288657-01332293598-01332297389-01332297845-01332298272- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941-01332288657-01332293598-01332297389-01332297845-01332298272-01332298373- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941-01332288657-01332293598-01332297389-01332297845-01332298272-01332298373-01332298495- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332187613-01332220880-01332275941-01332590855- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000717.html">[Mageia-marketing] Some ideas submitted for discussion
+</A><A NAME="717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332207870- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-marketing] Regarding podcasts
+</A><A NAME="666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332214669- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-marketing] Regarding Mageia and social networking sites
+</A><A NAME="667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332214669-01332292189- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332214669-01332292189-01332294774- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332214669-01332292189-01332294774-01332299178- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332214669-01332292189-01332294774-01332299178-01332299757- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia social network strategy
+</A><A NAME="686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332217368- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-marketing] We should attract new/potential contributors
+</A><A NAME="668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332226727- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332226727-01332227085- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-marketing] A request
+</A><A NAME="671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332291203- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332291203-01332294053- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332291203-01332294053-01332298051- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-marketing] Two free ebooks that we should probably all read
+</A><A NAME="681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332324354- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000687.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332324354-01332338504- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000688.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332324354-01332357315- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000690.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332324354-01332357315-01332360234- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000693.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332324354-01332357315-01332360234-01332360610- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000694.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332324354-01332357315-01332360234-01332360610-01332362305- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000695.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting tomorrow?
+</A><A NAME="695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332354435- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000689.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332354435-01332357827- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000691.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332354435-01332357827-01332359428- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000692.html">[Mageia-marketing] 9pm UTC/GMT for this evening's meeting?
+</A><A NAME="692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332463863- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000696.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332463863-01332464855- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000697.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332463863-01332464855-01332465445- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000698.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332463863-01332464855-01332465445-01332467916- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000700.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332463863-01332464855-01332465445-01332474131- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000704.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332463863-01332490971- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000705.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332463863-01332490971-01332491498- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000706.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01332463863-01332490971-01332491558- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000707.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332463863-01332490971-01332491558-01332508721- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000708.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332463863-01332490971-01332491558-01332508721-01332532445- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000713.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332463863-01332490971-01332491558-01332508721-01332532445-01332619633- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000718.html">[Mageia-marketing] mageiapeople.org
+</A><A NAME="718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332467771- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000699.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332467771-01332470519- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000701.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332467771-01332470519-01332470757- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000702.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332467771-01332470519-01332470757-01332473030- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000703.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01332467771-01332470519-01332523047- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000709.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332467771-01332470519-01332523047-01332524197- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000710.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332467771-01332470519-01332523047-01332524197-01332524731- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000711.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332467771-01332470519-01332523047-01332524709- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000712.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332467771-01332470519-01332523047-01332533621- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000714.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332467771-01332551093- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000715.html">[Mageia-marketing] Google+ on Planet Mageia
+</A><A NAME="715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332467771-01332551093-01332552590- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000716.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332467771-01332551093-01332552590-01332713269- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000722.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332467771-01332551093-01332552590-01332713269-01332722014- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000723.html">[Mageia-marketing] Apology/credentials
+</A><A NAME="723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332692228- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000719.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332692228-01332706653- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000720.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332692228-01332712962- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000721.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332692228-01332782491- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000730.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000732.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332810722- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000733.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332827038- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000734.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332827038-01332845365- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000737.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332827038-01332845365-01332864954- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000738.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332827038-01332845365-01332864954-01332891278- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000740.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332827038-01332845365-01332864954-01332891278-01332892725- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000741.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332827038-01332845365-01332864954-01332891278-01332925522- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000743.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332827038-01332845365-01332864954-01332891278-01332925522-01332927307- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000745.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332827038-01332845365-01332864954-01332891278-01332925522-01332929972- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000746.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images - clarity
+</A><A NAME="746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332834678- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000735.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332834678-01332844949- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000736.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332692228-01332782491-01332805883-01332834678-01332844949-01332875651- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000739.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332727770- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000724.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332727770-01332731743- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000726.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332727770-01332731743-01332732983- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000727.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332727770-01332798604- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000731.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332727770-01332959341- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000747.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332727770-01332959341-01332961039- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000748.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting/work times this week
+</A><A NAME="748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332727979- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000725.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332727979-01332749208- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000728.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332727979-01332749208-01332749612- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000729.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332727979-01332984728- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000755.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332727979-01332984728-01332993623- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000757.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332727979-01332984728-01332993623-01333131002- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000772.html">[Mageia-marketing] The Planets
+</A><A NAME="772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332924136- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000742.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>loqo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332924136-01332925683- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000744.html">[Mageia-marketing] Installer images
+</A><A NAME="744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332963069- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-marketing] Release texts workspace
+</A><A NAME="749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332966606- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000750.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332966606-01332972452- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000752.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332966606-01332972452-01332975894- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000753.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332966606-01332972452-01332975894-01332984429- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000754.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332966606-01332972452-01332975894-01332988736- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000756.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332966606-01332972452-01332975894-01332988736-01332997295- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000758.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332966606-01332972452-01332975894-01332988736-01332997295-01333050950- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000759.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332966606-01332972452-01332975894-01332988736-01332997295-01333050950-01333057936- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000760.html">[Mageia-marketing] Updates on the installer texts
+</A><A NAME="760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332966723- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000751.html">[Mageia-marketing] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333075910- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000761.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333075910-01333094342- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000762.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000763.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041-01333106360- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000764.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041-01333106360-01333106834- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000765.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041-01333106360-01333106834-01333106962- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000766.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041-01333111513- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000767.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041-01333111513-01333108230- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000768.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041-01333111513-01333108230-01333109412- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000769.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041-01333111513-01333108230-01333112362- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000770.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Josh King (dotmil)
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333075910-01333094342-01333106041-01333115109- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000771.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other ideas
+</A><A NAME="771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 30 20:10:02 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:14:23 CEST 2012</i>
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