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+ <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B>
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+ <I>Sat Mar 17 20:22:22 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>I think Max's email explains it very well.
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+Just want to add the council representative is usually the leader or
+deputy leader depending on the meeting it seems for Mageia teams,
+however I think for Mageia teams that it would be good if both the
+leader and deputy leader could be this together at council meetings
+together for example.
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+On 17/03/12 18:43, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+&gt;<i> Think of it this way: both artwork and marcom are concerned with the
+</I>&gt;<i> appearance of Mageia. It's all about how we present ourselves to the
+</I>&gt;<i> world. Whether it's a shiny desktop, eye catching posters or good
+</I>&gt;<i> content on podcasts. It all boils down to the same thing: how we look
+</I>&gt;<i> to the outside world.
+</I>&gt;<i> One of main problems we have with this is good communication. It's not
+</I>&gt;<i> just this one project where the two teams need to work together, but
+</I>&gt;<i> it's many projects. Thinking back for a few seconds I recall the booth
+</I>&gt;<i> setup for FOSDEM, the posters, the disc covers and a few other
+</I>&gt;<i> projects where both teams needed to work together.
+</I>&gt;<i> Aside from the lack of cooperation /within/ the team, there was bad
+</I>&gt;<i> communication /between/ teams. Efforts have been made in the past to
+</I>&gt;<i> try and amplify the cooperation, by staggering IRC meetings, by having
+</I>&gt;<i> people sign up for both mailing lists... but they never worked well.
+</I>&gt;<i> Most recently when we tried to collaborate we had many double posts on
+</I>&gt;<i> both lists, many redundant threads and many people being left out of
+</I>&gt;<i> the loop. Why? Because we were trying to communicate across two
+</I>&gt;<i> different lists and more or less the same people.
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, to clarify: the proposal isn't to merge the actual teams, just
+</I>&gt;<i> the communication channels. There will be (under the new proposal) one
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing list and one IRC channel. But essentially both teams will
+</I>&gt;<i> function as before. Each team will have one leader and one council
+</I>&gt;<i> representative (probably the same person for each team) and one
+</I>&gt;<i> deputy. This way both teams can function as a single unit when it
+</I>&gt;<i> comes to cross-communication and idea sharing (which happens a lot),
+</I>&gt;<i> but each team retains its autonomy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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