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+    <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer">jamagallon at ono.com
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+    <I>Thu Mar 24 00:08:40 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi...
+
+First of all, I have tried alpha2 on a couple systems, and apart from some
+glitches it works pretty fine, I could even work regularly on it...
+
+But there is just one thing that disappointed me.
+
+It looks that there is no non-free soft in installer DVD. I can live without
+nVidia drivers till I add non-free repos and reconfigure X after first boot,
+but for that I _need networking_.
+
+I tried this on a laptop and on a non-wired desktop. In both cases the
+wireless adapters were recognized, but were not activated because they
+needed binary firmware blobs (intel for the laptop, Linksis PCI wifi
+card for the desktop). The pain is that the desktop only network is
+WiFi, no possibility to run a cable to my router from the opposite corner
+of the house :(. So pick your USB stick and take a walk.
+
+I suppose the same problem will be very common, for laptops and desktops.
+
+Is there any possibility to include firmwares in the installed DVD ?
+Could the rules be relaxed a bit or not ?
+
+If people have only one computer, routed via wifi, they are in trouble...
+
+As I said, you can live with free drivers for graphics, but you can't
+without network :)).
+
+TIA
+
+-- 
+J.A. Magallon &lt;jamagallon()ono!com&gt;     \               Software is like sex:
+                                         \         It's better when it's free
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+    <B>Robert Xu</B> 
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+    <I>Thu Mar 24 00:39:43 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 18:58, Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 24 March 2011 00:48, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We shouldn't under any circumstances add kde3 in the repos, fork or not.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Users see a package in the repos and they expect it to be maintained,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this will not be the case, we can't support KDE4 and KDE3 at the same
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> time. Past experience tells us this is a major hassle/pain, and we
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shouldn't have to go back to that murky situation.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's not KDE3, it's a fork with new maintainers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The point still stands, will Trinity be another DE? or will we have to
+</I>&gt;<i> add conflicts in Trinity &lt;-&gt; KDE4 specs?
+</I>
+Trinity will be another DE
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If the latter, then I don't fancy adding the conflicts in each of the
+</I>&gt;<i> various kde4 specs (having just removed them a few months ago, and
+</I>&gt;<i> that took quite a lot of work), just to have another DE.
+</I>
+As I reiterate, Trinity does not interfere with KDE4 in any way, if
+you keep /opt/kde3
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Also there shouldn't be any qt3 dependant packages in the repos; the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> only and sole reason qt3 is in the Mageia repos is that stewbintn said
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> he needs it for some LSB stuff, but nothing is built with qt3-devel as
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> BR AFAIK and nothing should be.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It should be ok to add back qt3-devel temporarily, and remove it again
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> once Trinity gets ported to Qt4.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Olivier Blin - blino
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+-- 
+later, Robert Xu
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