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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer</H1>
+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+ <I>Thu Mar 24 11:48:22 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:39, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
+</I>&gt;<i> in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
+</I>&gt;<i> care about the issue does not mean we should not care either. We
+</I>&gt;<i> should rather stress the point.
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+</I>&gt;<i> We already made such a difference by using different repositories, we
+</I>&gt;<i> not continue this in our &quot;product line&quot;? We use a different repo for
+</I>&gt;<i> non-free, we also should use a different ISO for non-free.
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+Well, that's precisely debatable (and why I'll try to setup a relevant
+survey through marcom). The ISO can be seen as a static commodity
+storage; that it holds core and nonfree makes no such difference as
+that those two media are available from the network without
+discrimination.
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+So yes, the ISO in itself would not be free anymore; but as long as
+the install process does not pick into the nonfree media unless the
+user asks to, what does it make an issue (not that I have no idea
+about that, just that I'd like to see it expressed again from a
+different POV of mine - and that will help for the survey definition
+too).
+
+And that would make the case for a consistent installing experience
+that, no matter you're doing an exclusively ISO-based install or a
+network-based install, you get through the same steps (with a
+consistent opt-in or opt-out, clearly explained). It would only happen
+that non-free media is available locally if asked for.
+
+The alternative, if we're not to mix things on the static media, is to
+have distinct ISOs: free and nonfree/tainted ones. Times the format:
+DVD/CD/arch/USB through which we would have to decide to ease:
+building, qa and distribution (we will have to choose a default one to
+provide to visitors on the download page for instance).
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+Romain
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