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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+ <I>Thu Mar 24 22:41:14 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 22:09:50 schreef Dexter Morgan:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Maarten Vanraes
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 20:55:47 schreef Ahmad Samir:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On 24 March 2011 21:36, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 14:10:39 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:13, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Like I said before, KDE3.5 coexisted very well with KDE4 since
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; 2009.1 on Mandriva and Trinity is even more so being developed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; with coexistence in mind, so there shouldn't be any unsolvable
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; issues.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Maybe it did coexist well at a significant cost on the packaging
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; side? (time, packaging compromises) and maybe the situation isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; exactly the same as then?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; This is exactly what I would call a reasonable factual
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; argumentation.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; But an argument is not going to make anyone progress one way or the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; other here obviously. If there are fears, then provide facts to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; counter them (no argument, but facts).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; You propose to add TDE in the repository. After this discussion, the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; next step is you to first package TDE, build and test and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; see/demonstrate how it goes, regarding at least these 5 points
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; (summarized from above) before an integration is considered:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 1. no conflict on files
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 2. install in %_prefix (not in /opt)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 3. no duplicate software name (do not confuse user to decide between
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; tde-k3b and k3b for instance - or find a realistic workaround use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; case).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 4. at this point, no apps outside of the TDE project should require
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; TDE 5. committed maintainers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; also promising to maintain qt3 as long as it's needed and here, the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; same thing, not conflicting with qt4 in any way
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; How could a packager propose to maintain qt3 when it's been dead
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; upstream for years? so no upstream support/patches/whatever...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; yes, it would be a huge amount of work; and that's exactly the reason i
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; proposed to OP to just wait until it's qt4.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this will just remove the qt3 issue bug all the other issues will
+</I>&gt;<i> still be valid.
+</I>
+i'm hoping that by that time, that some apps will be the KDE4 apps or really
+their own apps.
+
+And in any case, it's a lot less work.
+
+The way i see it, it's seems there's:
+A) alot of work to maintain this
+B) quite some potential issues
+C) seemingly not alot of benefits
+
+B is the main point here, if they are dedicated to it, and can give good
+points on B. then sure, why not. IF they can also handle A.
+
+but don't get me wrong, there is not much chance of me actually using TDE.
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