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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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| committer | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000155.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000155.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bde23cacb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000155.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Help? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Help%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C255848.89158.qm%40web35504.mail.mud.yahoo.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000156.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Help?</H1> + <B>Matheus Santana</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Help%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C255848.89158.qm%40web35504.mail.mud.yahoo.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Help?">matheusslima at yahoo.com.br + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 01:32:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#155">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#155">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#155">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#155">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi! + +Im from Brazil and want to help with anything to the project. 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Please tell +</I>><i> me if need. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, +</I>><i> Matheus +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-dev mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hi, matheus. +</I> +Please visit the mageia wiki and add your name on the categories where you +think you can help. + +mageia.org/wiki/doku.php + +Cheers and welcome aboard! +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/fafa32e0/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000155.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#156">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#156">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#156">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#156">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000157.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000157.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d27a7ad3d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000157.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Help? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Help%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DBzimc4COmZSG1CqM-_rf%2BQTXaWPEtpEZkvhq9%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000159.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000158.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Help?</H1> + <B>alktodostemen alko</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Help%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DBzimc4COmZSG1CqM-_rf%2BQTXaWPEtpEZkvhq9%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Help?">alktodostemen at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 01:38:28 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#157">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#157">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#157">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#157">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I'm just like you, and my English is worth, when I can ask, we will be +vigilant. + +2010/9/23 Matheus Santana <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">matheusslima at yahoo.com.br</A>> + +><i> Hi! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Im from Brazil and want to help with anything to the project. Please tell +</I>><i> me if need. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, +</I>><i> Matheus +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-dev mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/56501e71/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#157">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#157">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#157">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#157">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000158.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000158.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2399517c6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000158.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Help? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Help%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009230140.01737.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000157.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000160.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Help?</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Help%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009230140.01737.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Help?">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 01:40:01 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000160.html">[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#158">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#158">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#158">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#158">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op donderdag 23 september 2010 01:32:35 schreef Matheus Santana: +><i> Hi! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Im from Brazil and want to help with anything to the project. Please tell +</I>><i> me if need. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, +</I>><i> Matheus +</I> +Hello, add your name to the appropriate category here: +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php</A> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000160.html">[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#158">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#158">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#158">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#158">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000159.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000159.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6bf83ca10 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000159.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Help? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Help%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimDV8kj0KzeQnd_hVN-0DDVdiHB5j7-BfXXm4Kk%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000156.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000157.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Help?</H1> + <B>alktodostemen alko</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Help%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimDV8kj0KzeQnd_hVN-0DDVdiHB5j7-BfXXm4Kk%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Help?">alktodostemen at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 01:41:04 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#159">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#159">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#159">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#159">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>agree, thanks for answering. + +2010/9/23 vfmBOFH <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">vfmbofh at gmail.com</A>> + +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2010/9/23 Matheus Santana <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">matheusslima at yahoo.com.br</A>> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Hi! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Im from Brazil and want to help with anything to the project. Please tell +</I>>><i> me if need. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Regards, +</I>>><i> Matheus +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>>><i> Mageia-dev mailing list +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Hi, matheus. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Please visit the mageia wiki and add your name on the categories where you +</I>><i> think you can help. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> mageia.org/wiki/doku.php +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers and welcome aboard! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-dev mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/0654d520/attachment.html> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? 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I mean I understand we +want to keep mageia.org site and a donation page multilingual. But what +about blog entries? I cannot see neither place nor use (it's a dev blog +and contributors need to have basic English communication skills) to +have them translated into different languages. + +Don't get me wrong. I just don't want to waste time translating +something that has no chances to be published in any way. + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000160.html">[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000162.html">[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#161">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#161">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#161">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#161">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000162.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000162.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cd8838d1c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000162.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20State%20of%20the%20kitchen&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3De8rMDLNWstHzOokAQ1KBwNHvTFBnjpBRcA25C%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000161.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000176.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen</H1> + <B>vfmBOFH</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20State%20of%20the%20kitchen&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3De8rMDLNWstHzOokAQ1KBwNHvTFBnjpBRcA25C%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen">vfmbofh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 14:04:23 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000161.html">[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#162">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#162">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#162">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#162">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/22 Anne nicolas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>> + +><i> Hi all +</I>><i> +</I>><i> News on our messy kitchen available below :) +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18">http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (other languages coming soon) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As you can see work is going on and we are doing everything so that we +</I>><i> can start very soon. +</I>><i> As a reminder, you can register on <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki">http://mageia.org/wiki</A> if you wish +</I>><i> to contribute or have a look on <A HREF="http://donation.mageia.org">http://donation.mageia.org</A> to help +</I>><i> Mageia project. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks again for your support +</I>><i> Cheers! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ------- +</I>><i> Anne +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-dev mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +I'll take te text to the MDKTrans team in order to provide the spanish +translation + +Cheers +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/6e1c1a21/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000161.html">[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#162">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#162">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#162">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#162">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000163.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000163.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6b0ad8a0f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000163.html @@ -0,0 +1,152 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3C201009240100.22427.yorick_%40openoffice.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000176.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000164.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Graham Lauder</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3C201009240100.22427.yorick_%40openoffice.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">yorick_ at openoffice.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 15:00:22 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#163">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#163">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#163">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#163">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>The artguide and logo guidelines are seriously incomplete and need a lot of +work. Free software projects have a history of rushing into branding that +they will be stuck with for a very long time, from logo to colour scheme to +pallett. If it's not thought through and given the consideration it needs, it +can turn into a millstone around the projects neck or a chaotic round of ever +changing looks that confuses the market. + +The project needs to get it's branding process it's organised. Until then +everything should be fluid, even the name should be seen as a "Working Title". + +So therefore: + +We need to identify our vision, +Identify the way we want the world to see us. +We need to identify our target market +and then come up with a Brand to suit that market. + +The brand does not have to be out there until the announcement of the first +release. +The brand that is created now, will shackle the Marketing team for all time. +The marketing team will only hang around if the brand is good. Hackers need +the tools to do their job, if the IDE they are forced to use when making code +is a pile of shit then they'll go elsewhere. It's the same with marketers, +give them a good brand and they'll come in droves to be part of it. + +Ubuntu's strength was in that initial marketing, targeted at 18 to 35 age +group with warm a comforting and attractive pallett (Browns Reds and Yellows) +and a slightly zany way of doing things (Warty Warthog and so on) They +identified a market of young people of above average intelligence who were +not satisfied with the cold clinical professional brand of principal market +leader. + +This group had several advantageous facets to them. +1) They were leaders and early adopters of new technology +2) They were rebellious to a degree +3) They had a very positive view of themselves +4) They felt that they deserved to be noticed and that the world should do +stuff for them. + +So Ubuntu's branding is aimed directly at that market and very successfully. + +The problem that many projects suffer from is that they come up with a +branding that feels good to their own community, while ignoring the market. +And make no bones about it, much of the reason that Ubuntu gets lots of +developers is because of it's wide user base. That makes it sexy, the +opportunity to be famous: "I am part of that.." + +Now there is a good argument to be made for going after the same market for +all of the above reasons. + +We can learn some lessons from the way Ubuntu did things. + +They leveraged their location, used a local language and traditions to give +them a name and a story: Ubuntu = Humanity to Humans and a logo that reflects +and enhances that story. + +For me, for this project, I think it's untapped branding strength is in it's +Latin South American Heritage. Connectiva. + +Connection, +Computers are about connecting with others and when the world thinks about +South America and connecting they think Dance, .. Tango. If it was my project +in these circumstances I'd be calling it Tango-Linux. The name even +immediately evokes the branding colours and the pallet, Bold Blacks, Fiery +Reds and silvers, the colours of passion. Tango evokes passion, rebellion +but at the same time precision and teamwork. + +Unfortunately there is already a Tango Linux, not to mention the Tango Icon +project, but you get the idea. + + +To conclude: my point is that there needs to be much more consideration given +to the branding elements at this point before we start voting on logos and the +like and I would like to see everything up for discussion, name included, we +are brand new, the world is watching, this is our unique opportunity we need +to stamp our mark boldly but with serious consideration of our goals. + +Of course the communities desire maybe just to stay as a small minor player in +the desktop universe, but if that's the case this is not the Mandrake I knew +back at 8.0 when It was on every other computer magazine cover CD, and it was +going after the market in a big way, not worrying about the Ubuntus and +Redhats but out to take down the Redmond machine. Personally I think that +spirit is still there. + + +-- +Graham Lauder, +OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ +<A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A> + +OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. + +INGOTs Assessor Trainer +(International Grades in Open Technologies) +www.theingots.org +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000176.html">[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#163">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#163">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#163">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#163">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000164.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000164.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..361ef7798 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000164.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DbZXgcftqJhJ4Bgx5zO6ezVcKyUP2wYSC9DigN%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000163.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000165.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DbZXgcftqJhJ4Bgx5zO6ezVcKyUP2wYSC9DigN%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 15:14:10 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000163.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#164">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#164">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#164">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#164">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/23 Graham Lauder <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yorick_ at openoffice.org</A>>: +><i> The artguide and logo guidelines are seriously incomplete and need a lot of +</I>><i> work.  Free software projects have a history of rushing into branding that +</I>><i> they will be stuck with for a very long time, from logo to colour scheme to +</I>><i> pallett.  If it's not thought through and given the consideration it needs, it +</I>><i> can turn into a millstone around the projects neck or a chaotic round of ever +</I>><i> changing looks that confuses the market. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The project needs to get it's branding process it's organised.  Until then +</I>><i> everything should be fluid, even the name should be seen as a "Working Title". +</I> +Agreed in all points with 2 remarks: + +A good example for a logo which tells the story and is simple to stick +in people's minds is the Logo of Deutsche Bank. The slash inside the +square. The slash stands for '%' which points at earnings from +interest rates and the bank's business, lending money for interest. +The square surrounding the slash stands for security, protection of +the earnings, and the house itself. + +Others from Linux: ArchLinux and Gentoo. + +You write that we will need a logo and branding not before our first +release is ready to roll. What about press releases before that date? +ATM I am writing an article about the Mandriva/Mageia topic for a +German print magazine, the editor asked me to do that to provide some +background to the news. First thing he asked was about a logo to +include. + + As we do not have any screenshots I could include only pure text +remains which is a no-go for a 3-4 pages article. + +wobo +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000163.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#164">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#164">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#164">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#164">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000165.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000165.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5d01d834b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000165.html @@ -0,0 +1,164 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9B52D0.9070005%40tuxette.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000164.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000166.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Lombard Marianne</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9B52D0.9070005%40tuxette.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">marianne at tuxette.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 15:14:56 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000166.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#165">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#165">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#165">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#165">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 23/09/2010 15:00, Graham Lauder a écrit : +><i> The artguide and logo guidelines are seriously incomplete and need a lot of +</I>><i> work. Free software projects have a history of rushing into branding that +</I>><i> they will be stuck with for a very long time, from logo to colour scheme to +</I>><i> pallett. If it's not thought through and given the consideration it needs, it +</I>><i> can turn into a millstone around the projects neck or a chaotic round of ever +</I>><i> changing looks that confuses the market. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The project needs to get it's branding process it's organised. Until then +</I>><i> everything should be fluid, even the name should be seen as a "Working Title". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So therefore: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We need to identify our vision, +</I>><i> Identify the way we want the world to see us. +</I>><i> We need to identify our target market +</I>><i> and then come up with a Brand to suit that market. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The brand does not have to be out there until the announcement of the first +</I>><i> release. +</I>><i> The brand that is created now, will shackle the Marketing team for all time. +</I>><i> The marketing team will only hang around if the brand is good. Hackers need +</I>><i> the tools to do their job, if the IDE they are forced to use when making code +</I>><i> is a pile of shit then they'll go elsewhere. It's the same with marketers, +</I>><i> give them a good brand and they'll come in droves to be part of it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ubuntu's strength was in that initial marketing, targeted at 18 to 35 age +</I>><i> group with warm a comforting and attractive pallett (Browns Reds and Yellows) +</I>><i> and a slightly zany way of doing things (Warty Warthog and so on) They +</I>><i> identified a market of young people of above average intelligence who were +</I>><i> not satisfied with the cold clinical professional brand of principal market +</I>><i> leader. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This group had several advantageous facets to them. +</I>><i> 1) They were leaders and early adopters of new technology +</I>><i> 2) They were rebellious to a degree +</I>><i> 3) They had a very positive view of themselves +</I>><i> 4) They felt that they deserved to be noticed and that the world should do +</I>><i> stuff for them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So Ubuntu's branding is aimed directly at that market and very successfully. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The problem that many projects suffer from is that they come up with a +</I>><i> branding that feels good to their own community, while ignoring the market. +</I>><i> And make no bones about it, much of the reason that Ubuntu gets lots of +</I>><i> developers is because of it's wide user base. That makes it sexy, the +</I>><i> opportunity to be famous: "I am part of that.." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now there is a good argument to be made for going after the same market for +</I>><i> all of the above reasons. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We can learn some lessons from the way Ubuntu did things. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> They leveraged their location, used a local language and traditions to give +</I>><i> them a name and a story: Ubuntu = Humanity to Humans and a logo that reflects +</I>><i> and enhances that story. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For me, for this project, I think it's untapped branding strength is in it's +</I>><i> Latin South American Heritage. Connectiva. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Connection, +</I>><i> Computers are about connecting with others and when the world thinks about +</I>><i> South America and connecting they think Dance, .. Tango. If it was my project +</I>><i> in these circumstances I'd be calling it Tango-Linux. The name even +</I>><i> immediately evokes the branding colours and the pallet, Bold Blacks, Fiery +</I>><i> Reds and silvers, the colours of passion. Tango evokes passion, rebellion +</I>><i> but at the same time precision and teamwork. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Unfortunately there is already a Tango Linux, not to mention the Tango Icon +</I>><i> project, but you get the idea. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To conclude: my point is that there needs to be much more consideration given +</I>><i> to the branding elements at this point before we start voting on logos and the +</I>><i> like and I would like to see everything up for discussion, name included, we +</I>><i> are brand new, the world is watching, this is our unique opportunity we need +</I>><i> to stamp our mark boldly but with serious consideration of our goals. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course the communities desire maybe just to stay as a small minor player in +</I>><i> the desktop universe, but if that's the case this is not the Mandrake I knew +</I>><i> back at 8.0 when It was on every other computer magazine cover CD, and it was +</I>><i> going after the market in a big way, not worrying about the Ubuntus and +</I>><i> Redhats but out to take down the Redmond machine. Personally I think that +</I>><i> spirit is still there. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>We're missing experimented people in this matters. Branding, art, logo, +we all knew this is very important. But what we didn't (for the most +part of us) is how. +For the market, I can't answer for the initiator team, I'm just a +supporter. +How make an amazing logo, artwork, how make mageia a shining star of +linux ? +We all have this goal. Just missing the path + +If you want to help us, there is a wiki in which all good wills can +register : <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php</A> +Marketing and communication team are waiting you + +Marianne + +-- +Marianne (Jehane) Lombard +Mandriva User / Mageia Supporter +Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a lot of chocolate) + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000166.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#165">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#165">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#165">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#165">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000166.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000166.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e13b5b3e8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000166.html @@ -0,0 +1,190 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimyz-OzSZ8E6e7vf8knB2%3D%2BTzYtVSfzodvYccfy%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000165.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000167.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimyz-OzSZ8E6e7vf8knB2%3D%2BTzYtVSfzodvYccfy%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">msdobrescu at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 15:33:54 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#166">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#166">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#166">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#166">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Although Ubuntu's target description suits me well, I think, it did not +catch me. Their palette is in colors of my home, but un my top box I need to +have somethinng geek, shiny, cool, sci-fi, strong, aggressive... +That's why I do prefer an orb as logo, because it is so versatile. The +shape, materials, the symbols. Easy to remember. But I guess it is taken... +Is it? +Ubuntu failed miserably in my case... In look and stability. I think it is +of a good marketing though. +Is the name 'Mageia' immutable? Do you suggest to rename it? + +On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Graham Lauder <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yorick_ at openoffice.org</A>>wrote: + +><i> The artguide and logo guidelines are seriously incomplete and need a lot of +</I>><i> work. Free software projects have a history of rushing into branding that +</I>><i> they will be stuck with for a very long time, from logo to colour scheme to +</I>><i> pallett. If it's not thought through and given the consideration it needs, +</I>><i> it +</I>><i> can turn into a millstone around the projects neck or a chaotic round of +</I>><i> ever +</I>><i> changing looks that confuses the market. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The project needs to get it's branding process it's organised. Until then +</I>><i> everything should be fluid, even the name should be seen as a "Working +</I>><i> Title". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So therefore: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We need to identify our vision, +</I>><i> Identify the way we want the world to see us. +</I>><i> We need to identify our target market +</I>><i> and then come up with a Brand to suit that market. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The brand does not have to be out there until the announcement of the first +</I>><i> release. +</I>><i> The brand that is created now, will shackle the Marketing team for all +</I>><i> time. +</I>><i> The marketing team will only hang around if the brand is good. Hackers +</I>><i> need +</I>><i> the tools to do their job, if the IDE they are forced to use when making +</I>><i> code +</I>><i> is a pile of shit then they'll go elsewhere. It's the same with marketers, +</I>><i> give them a good brand and they'll come in droves to be part of it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ubuntu's strength was in that initial marketing, targeted at 18 to 35 age +</I>><i> group with warm a comforting and attractive pallett (Browns Reds and +</I>><i> Yellows) +</I>><i> and a slightly zany way of doing things (Warty Warthog and so on) They +</I>><i> identified a market of young people of above average intelligence who were +</I>><i> not satisfied with the cold clinical professional brand of principal market +</I>><i> leader. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This group had several advantageous facets to them. +</I>><i> 1) They were leaders and early adopters of new technology +</I>><i> 2) They were rebellious to a degree +</I>><i> 3) They had a very positive view of themselves +</I>><i> 4) They felt that they deserved to be noticed and that the world should do +</I>><i> stuff for them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So Ubuntu's branding is aimed directly at that market and very +</I>><i> successfully. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The problem that many projects suffer from is that they come up with a +</I>><i> branding that feels good to their own community, while ignoring the market. +</I>><i> And make no bones about it, much of the reason that Ubuntu gets lots of +</I>><i> developers is because of it's wide user base. That makes it sexy, the +</I>><i> opportunity to be famous: "I am part of that.." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now there is a good argument to be made for going after the same market for +</I>><i> all of the above reasons. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We can learn some lessons from the way Ubuntu did things. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> They leveraged their location, used a local language and traditions to give +</I>><i> them a name and a story: Ubuntu = Humanity to Humans and a logo that +</I>><i> reflects +</I>><i> and enhances that story. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For me, for this project, I think it's untapped branding strength is in +</I>><i> it's +</I>><i> Latin South American Heritage. Connectiva. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Connection, +</I>><i> Computers are about connecting with others and when the world thinks about +</I>><i> South America and connecting they think Dance, .. Tango. If it was my +</I>><i> project +</I>><i> in these circumstances I'd be calling it Tango-Linux. The name even +</I>><i> immediately evokes the branding colours and the pallet, Bold Blacks, Fiery +</I>><i> Reds and silvers, the colours of passion. Tango evokes passion, rebellion +</I>><i> but at the same time precision and teamwork. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Unfortunately there is already a Tango Linux, not to mention the Tango Icon +</I>><i> project, but you get the idea. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To conclude: my point is that there needs to be much more consideration +</I>><i> given +</I>><i> to the branding elements at this point before we start voting on logos and +</I>><i> the +</I>><i> like and I would like to see everything up for discussion, name included, +</I>><i> we +</I>><i> are brand new, the world is watching, this is our unique opportunity we +</I>><i> need +</I>><i> to stamp our mark boldly but with serious consideration of our goals. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course the communities desire maybe just to stay as a small minor player +</I>><i> in +</I>><i> the desktop universe, but if that's the case this is not the Mandrake I +</I>><i> knew +</I>><i> back at 8.0 when It was on every other computer magazine cover CD, and it +</I>><i> was +</I>><i> going after the market in a big way, not worrying about the Ubuntus and +</I>><i> Redhats but out to take down the Redmond machine. Personally I think that +</I>><i> spirit is still there. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Graham Lauder, +</I>><i> OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> INGOTs Assessor Trainer +</I>><i> (International Grades in Open Technologies) +</I>><i> www.theingots.org +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-dev mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/2394fcea/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#166">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#166">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#166">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#166">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000167.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000167.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..aed6bfd4e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000167.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D1GSQmELf--3M10m1tkY7ORN48ezAhw_Z%3DxXE2%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000166.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000168.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D1GSQmELf--3M10m1tkY7ORN48ezAhw_Z%3DxXE2%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 15:58:00 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000166.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#167">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#167">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#167">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#167">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> Is the name 'Mageia' immutable? Do you suggest to rename it? +</I> +Well... I'm not in marketing. But I think the name isn't the problem. + +If you have your company (any company) and after two years working you +go to an advertising pro and the first thing he says is "you have to +change the name of your company", will you do it? I guess you'll do it +if the original name is really a sh*t. + +Of course, a good name is an important base for the advertising. But +when the name is set, marketing pros must do the best they can with +it. + +And it's not the same if you try to "sell" a server OS to a company or +a desktop OS to a home user, an OEM OS to manufacturers, etc. + +Graham Lauder's points are very "logic". Marketing guys can't sell +something if you don't tell them what they will sell, and who they +must target their "fire". + +That's why Mageia must set mision, vision, etc etc etc. + +IMHO. + + +tavillo1980 +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000166.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#167">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#167">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#167">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#167">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000168.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000168.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..acc715c03 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000168.html @@ -0,0 +1,207 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3C201009231459.59107.pw%40pwatson.me.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000167.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000169.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Peter Watson</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3C201009231459.59107.pw%40pwatson.me.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">pw at pwatson.me.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 15:59:40 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#168">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#168">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#168">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#168">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thursday 23 September 2010 14:00:22 Graham Lauder wrote: +><i> The artguide and logo guidelines are seriously incomplete and +</I>need a lot of +><i> work. Free software projects have a history of rushing into +</I>branding that +><i> they will be stuck with for a very long time, from logo to colour +</I>scheme to +><i> pallett. If it's not thought through and given the consideration it +</I>needs, +><i> it can turn into a millstone around the projects neck or a chaotic +</I>round +><i> of ever changing looks that confuses the market. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The project needs to get it's branding process it's organised. Until +</I>then +><i> everything should be fluid, even the name should be seen as a +</I>"Working +><i> Title". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So therefore: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We need to identify our vision, +</I>><i> Identify the way we want the world to see us. +</I>><i> We need to identify our target market +</I>><i> and then come up with a Brand to suit that market. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The brand does not have to be out there until the announcement +</I>of the first +><i> release. +</I>><i> The brand that is created now, will shackle the Marketing team for +</I>all +><i> time. The marketing team will only hang around if the brand is +</I>good. +><i> Hackers need the tools to do their job, if the IDE they are forced to +</I>use +><i> when making code is a pile of shit then they'll go elsewhere. It's +</I>the +><i> same with marketers, give them a good brand and they'll come in +</I>droves to +><i> be part of it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ubuntu's strength was in that initial marketing, targeted at 18 to +</I>35 age +><i> group with warm a comforting and attractive pallett (Browns Reds +</I>and +><i> Yellows) and a slightly zany way of doing things (Warty Warthog and +</I>so on) +><i> They identified a market of young people of above average +</I>intelligence +><i> who were not satisfied with the cold clinical professional brand of +</I>><i> principal market leader. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This group had several advantageous facets to them. +</I>><i> 1) They were leaders and early adopters of new technology +</I>><i> 2) They were rebellious to a degree +</I>><i> 3) They had a very positive view of themselves +</I>><i> 4) They felt that they deserved to be noticed and that the world +</I>should do +><i> stuff for them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So Ubuntu's branding is aimed directly at that market and very +</I>><i> successfully. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The problem that many projects suffer from is that they come up +</I>with a +><i> branding that feels good to their own community, while ignoring +</I>the market. +><i> And make no bones about it, much of the reason that Ubuntu +</I>gets lots of +><i> developers is because of it's wide user base. That makes it sexy, +</I>the +><i> opportunity to be famous: "I am part of that.." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now there is a good argument to be made for going after the +</I>same market for +><i> all of the above reasons. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We can learn some lessons from the way Ubuntu did things. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> They leveraged their location, used a local language and +</I>traditions to give +><i> them a name and a story: Ubuntu = Humanity to Humans and a +</I>logo that +><i> reflects and enhances that story. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For me, for this project, I think it's untapped branding strength is +</I>in +><i> it's Latin South American Heritage. Connectiva. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Connection, +</I>><i> Computers are about connecting with others and when the world +</I>thinks about +><i> South America and connecting they think Dance, .. Tango. If it was +</I>my +><i> project in these circumstances I'd be calling it Tango-Linux. The +</I>name +><i> even immediately evokes the branding colours and the pallet, Bold +</I>Blacks, +><i> Fiery Reds and silvers, the colours of passion. Tango evokes +</I>passion, +><i> rebellion but at the same time precision and teamwork. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Unfortunately there is already a Tango Linux, not to mention the +</I>Tango Icon +><i> project, but you get the idea. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To conclude: my point is that there needs to be much more +</I>consideration +><i> given to the branding elements at this point before we start voting +</I>on +><i> logos and the like and I would like to see everything up for +</I>discussion, +><i> name included, we are brand new, the world is watching, this is +</I>our unique +><i> opportunity we need to stamp our mark boldly but with serious +</I>><i> consideration of our goals. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course the communities desire maybe just to stay as a small +</I>minor player +><i> in the desktop universe, but if that's the case this is not the +</I>Mandrake I +><i> knew back at 8.0 when It was on every other computer magazine +</I>cover CD, +><i> and it was going after the market in a big way, not worrying about +</I>the +><i> Ubuntus and Redhats but out to take down the Redmond machine. +</I>Personally +><i> I think that spirit is still there. +</I> +A large number of the posts on these forums have really been about +fairly trivial issues compared with this one. + +Graham's contribution is thoughtful and serious and if taken up now +could have a fundamental impact or otherwise on the succces of this +distribution. + +Now we really need someone with marketing expertise to drive this +issue forward. + +Question is WHO? + +Peter Watson +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 198 bytes +Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/95ce556c/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#168">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#168">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#168">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#168">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000169.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000169.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..89206d61e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000169.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim8CQdt0qMs%2BAUP7Zw0ahOteSJTYATh_WD%3DY%3DJ%2B%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000168.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000170.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim8CQdt0qMs%2BAUP7Zw0ahOteSJTYATh_WD%3DY%3DJ%2B%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 16:11:39 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#169">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#169">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#169">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#169">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> Now we really need someone with marketing expertise to drive this +</I>><i> issue forward. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Question is WHO? +</I> +If you take a look to Graham's first mail "An introduction from a +Marketing guy", you'll see: + +... I've been the MarCon (Marketing Contact) for New Zealand for OOo since about +2005 and been around the OOo project since the early days... + +... Obviously my strength is in marketing and training and I'd like to get a +Mageia marketing project of the ground right now, gather together some like +minded marketing enthusiasts and take Mageia to a world of new users. + +... f there is general agreement with this proposal, I would then like +to request +a marketing ML so we can keep the prattling about strategies and branding and +logos and all that stuff off the devs list. + + +IMHO, we could consider Graham to start the "marketing thing". He +already said "me" and, from my humble point of view, he looks to know +what is he talking about. + +Opinions? + + +tavillo1980 +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000168.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#169">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#169">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#169">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#169">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000170.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000170.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e6ddb9437 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000170.html @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3C201009231516.07180.pw%40pwatson.me.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000169.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000171.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Peter Watson</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3C201009231516.07180.pw%40pwatson.me.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">pw at pwatson.me.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 16:16:03 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#170">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#170">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#170">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#170">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thursday 23 September 2010 15:11:39 Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +wrote: +><i> > Now we really need someone with marketing expertise to drive +</I>this +><i> > issue forward. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Question is WHO? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you take a look to Graham's first mail "An introduction from a +</I>><i> Marketing guy", you'll see: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ... I've been the MarCon (Marketing Contact) for New Zealand for +</I>OOo since +><i> about 2005 and been around the OOo project since the early +</I>days... +><i> +</I>><i> ... Obviously my strength is in marketing and training and I'd like to +</I>get +><i> a Mageia marketing project of the ground right now, gather +</I>together some +><i> like minded marketing enthusiasts and take Mageia to a world of +</I>new users. +><i> +</I>><i> ... f there is general agreement with this proposal, I would then like +</I>><i> to request +</I>><i> a marketing ML so we can keep the prattling about strategies and +</I>branding +><i> and logos and all that stuff off the devs list. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IMHO, we could consider Graham to start the "marketing thing". He +</I>><i> already said "me" and, from my humble point of view, he looks to +</I>know +><i> what is he talking about. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Opinions? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> tavillo1980 +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-dev mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> +</I> + ++1 + +Peter Watson +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 198 bytes +Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/ee7ccdac/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#170">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#170">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#170">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#170">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000171.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000171.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6d6674a36 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000171.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1009231611100.32130-100000%40outpost-priv%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000170.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000172.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Tux99</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1009231611100.32130-100000%40outpost-priv%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">tux99-mga at uridium.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 16:16:30 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#171">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#171">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#171">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#171">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Peter Watson wrote: + +><i> Now we really need someone with marketing expertise to drive this +</I>><i> issue forward. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Question is WHO? +</I> +Umm, I'm sure Graham already said that he is offering himself. + +Graham, I'm not a marketing person, but I agree with almost everything +you say, the only thing that I don't agree with is that the name should +be up for debate. + +Too many practical things depend on the name so if whe change the name, +everything else will be on hold until then. + +I do think Mageia is a good name, that is versatile enough for you to +work with, it sounds exotic (I didn't know it was greek, it sounded +spanish to me when i first read it) it's short and unique. + +So IMHO feel free to drive the marketing whichever way you like, but +please don't ask for a name change. + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000170.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#171">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#171">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#171">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#171">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000172.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000172.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..72d4a9eec --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000172.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DdWFpQQt6V38ss0oE3VaaLiE1Po2adacuiwmUh%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000171.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000173.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DdWFpQQt6V38ss0oE3VaaLiE1Po2adacuiwmUh%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 16:26:08 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#172">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#172">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#172">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#172">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> I do think Mageia is a good name, that is versatile enough for you to +</I>><i> work with, it sounds exotic (I didn't know it was greek, it sounded +</I>><i> spanish to me when i first read it) it's short and unique. +</I> +I algo think Mageia is good enough. + +About Graham, I think that until the board is ready, the "heads" are +the original starters (that I can't identify yet XDDDD). I guess +Romain, Anne, and I don't know who else. + +So: + +* Option 1: they must give a "yes" to confirm Graham has new "marketing head". + +* Option 2: Maybe they want to wait until the board is ready, an then, +the official board should confirm Graham. + + + +tavillo1980 +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000171.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#172">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#172">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#172">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#172">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000173.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000173.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2a69790b7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000173.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimREES9UPy5AWfDMLYQDRn3jYkXWzOGDzsQOCOv%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000172.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000174.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Francesc Martinez</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimREES9UPy5AWfDMLYQDRn3jYkXWzOGDzsQOCOv%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">francescmm at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 16:29:33 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#173">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#173">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#173">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#173">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/23 Tux99 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>> + +><i> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Peter Watson wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Now we really need someone with marketing expertise to drive this +</I>><i> > issue forward. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Question is WHO? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Umm, I'm sure Graham already said that he is offering himself. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Graham, I'm not a marketing person, but I agree with almost everything +</I>><i> you say, the only thing that I don't agree with is that the name should +</I>><i> be up for debate. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Too many practical things depend on the name so if whe change the name, +</I>><i> everything else will be on hold until then. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I do think Mageia is a good name, that is versatile enough for you to +</I>><i> work with, it sounds exotic (I didn't know it was greek, it sounded +</I>><i> spanish to me when i first read it) it's short and unique. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So IMHO feel free to drive the marketing whichever way you like, but +</I>><i> please don't ask for a name change. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-dev mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> +</I>><i> +</I> ++1 for you +and ++1 for Graham + +IMHO, and it has been told before, is that the name is not a problem. + +The better example we have is Apple. Stories tell us that the name was a +explicit decision because it was impossible to find a "good name". Althoug +this story was a lie, is a good example that demonstrate that a simply name +with a really good marketing is enought to grow the power of the mark. + +I think that we can start from Mageia, like it evoques the magic world, we +can try to explain that it is that all of us are wanting: easy, eyecandy, +but powerfull and sturdy. + +XescoMM. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/b7479476/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#173">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#173">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#173">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#173">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000174.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000174.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..61144130b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000174.html @@ -0,0 +1,103 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinVY88zXf1piq6D1RCFL8%3DeK2JJLv_9DAFxP79w%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000173.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000175.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinVY88zXf1piq6D1RCFL8%3DeK2JJLv_9DAFxP79w%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 16:53:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#174">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#174">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#174">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#174">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Mageia name is not up for debate for the project. Not because it's +good enough or something else, but because that's its name. :-) + +That does not exclude that other names may be used, for releases, for +instance. But that's not really what was envisioned at first either. +Let's discuss this later. + +As for Graham being marketing team lead - that will be to the +marketing team to decide all together (as well as decide on a +suppleant). But I definitely support you! :-p + +Note that being a team lead is still distinct from being on board, at +least for the first round as we're going to have a founding board (I +hope we will announce more about this by the coming days). + +Romain + +On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 16:16, Tux99 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>> wrote: +><i> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Peter Watson wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Now we really need someone with marketing expertise to drive this +</I>>><i> issue forward. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Question is WHO? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Umm, I'm sure Graham already said that he is offering himself. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Graham, I'm not a marketing person, but I agree with almost everything +</I>><i> you say, the only thing that I don't agree with is that the name should +</I>><i> be up for debate. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Too many practical things depend on the name so if whe change the name, +</I>><i> everything else will be on hold until then. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I do think Mageia is a good name, that is versatile enough for you to +</I>><i> work with, it sounds exotic (I didn't know it was greek, it sounded +</I>><i> spanish to me when i first read it) it's short and unique. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So IMHO feel free to drive the marketing whichever way you like, but +</I>><i> please don't ask for a name change. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-dev mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#174">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#174">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#174">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#174">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000175.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000175.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..84b16d421 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000175.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3C201009231703.16750.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000174.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000177.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3C201009231703.16750.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 17:03:16 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#175">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#175">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#175">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#175">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>"Romain d'Alverny" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>> +><i> Mageia name is not up for debate for the project. Not because it's +</I>><i> good enough or something else, but because that's its name. :-) +</I> +Contrary to you, after thinking abour it for some days, I do think, it's a +good name. Especially in the combination with the irc topic "the magic +continues". + +It's a good combination and it has some connection to the original Mandrake +name. + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#175">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#175">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#175">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#175">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000176.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000176.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..874de1217 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000176.html @@ -0,0 +1,186 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20State%20of%20the%20kitchen&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikahvABU8GAhF0T%2BFVpGME9-g3Q4R6jwp-mLJRP%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000162.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000163.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen</H1> + <B>vfmBOFH</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20State%20of%20the%20kitchen&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikahvABU8GAhF0T%2BFVpGME9-g3Q4R6jwp-mLJRP%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen">vfmbofh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 17:04:07 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000162.html">[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000163.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#176">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#176">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#176">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#176">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/23 vfmBOFH <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">vfmbofh at gmail.com</A>> + +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2010/9/22 Anne nicolas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Hi all +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> News on our messy kitchen available below :) +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18">http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> (other languages coming soon) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As you can see work is going on and we are doing everything so that we +</I>>><i> can start very soon. +</I>>><i> As a reminder, you can register on <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki">http://mageia.org/wiki</A> if you wish +</I>>><i> to contribute or have a look on <A HREF="http://donation.mageia.org">http://donation.mageia.org</A> to help +</I>>><i> Mageia project. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Thanks again for your support +</I>>><i> Cheers! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> ------- +</I>>><i> Anne +</I>>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>>><i> Mageia-dev mailing list +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'll take te text to the MDKTrans team in order to provide the spanish +</I>><i> translation +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers +</I>><i> +</I> +Hi again. + +Here's the spanish translation, courtesy of MDKTrans: +------------------------------------------------ +¡Atención, atención! + +Ahora que el anuncio ha sido un gran éxito, las discusiones ya están +en curso en las listas de correo (una vez mas, todos ustedes son +increíbles, chicos), ahora necesitamos establecer bases sólidas para +Mageia. Veremos cada uno de estos puntos con mayor detalle, pero aquí +va un resumen: + +Infraestructura y herramientas + +Establecer una infraestructura es una de las cosas más importantes. Ha +comenzado con el uso de recursos temporales para tener en linea los +servicios principales lo más pronto posible: + +El blog de Mageia se puso en linea ayer (sólo en inglés por el +momento, configuraremos otros idiomas muy pronto) + +Se ha abierto un wiki temporal para ayudar a todos a registrarse en +diversos equipos; estos equipos tendrán listas de correo dedicadas. +para comenzar, deberán nombrar un representante + un delegado y luego +podrán comenzar a trabajar en las distintas tareas (ver mas abajo). + +Los foros de usuario también están en camino - tendremos un foro +oficial en inglés, junto con enlaces a foros regionales los cuales ya +están activos y listos para dar la bienvenida a usuarios de distintos +países (Blogdrake, mandrivausers-de, LKO...). Si cree que un idioma no +está representado en alguno de los foros existentes, por favor +envíenos un correo a mageia-contact EN gmai.com para que podamos +añadir por ahora, un nuevo espacio en el(los) servidor(es) de Mageia. +Agradecemos especialmente a Paul Willard y Raphael Jador quienes +liderarán esta ardua labor. + +También tenemos diversas propuestas para los mirrors de Mageia + +Las dicusiones están en curso y estamos trabajando en establecer el +sistema de construcción; ese será el mayor hito técnico para todos +nosotros, el cual nos permitirá comenzar a trabajar en la distribución +propiamente tal. + + +Logo + +¡Necesitamos un logo (y uno fabuloso) y un diseño global para Mageia! + +Ya hemos redactado un borrador con algunas guías de estilo del logo +(por favor, revisarlas cuidadosamente) y encontrarán las diversas +propuestas en esta galería. Siéntase libre de enviar nuevos diseños o +comentarios sobre los existentes. + + +Organización + +Conitnuamos trabajando en la creación de una asociación para Mageia. +Esto nos permitirá contar con una junta oficial al frente del proyecto +para conseguir finaciamiento, para solicitar diferentes tipos de ayuda +y para ser capaces de garantizar el futuro de Mageia. + +Los estatutos aún están siendo escritos (en francés) y el concejo +fundador debería constituirse pronto (esperamos que sea equilibrado y +eficaz, aunque específicamente dedicado a tareas de fundación; las +elecciones de renovación por parte de terceros iniciará mas tarde). +Esta junta dirigirá la cocina, coordinando con los delegados de cada +equipo la conducción de los diversos aspectos de la distribución +(diseño, desarrollo, pruebas, producción, distribución, promoción, +etc.) en adelante. + +Aún tenemos muchas preguntas sin respuesta para las cuales nos +gustaría contar con más puntos de vista y opiniones antes de tomar una +decisión final. Detallaremos nuestra idea sobre las funciones de la +organización en próximas publicaciones y recogeremos consejos sobre +puntos concretos antes de decidir que hacer. + +Oh, mientras tanto pueden efectuar donaciones mediante Paypal y/o +transferencia bancaria. La finaciación es fundamental para poder +montar una infraestructura independiente y otros elementos necesarios. + +Finalmente, ya contamos con muchos contactos de las otras comunidades +alrededor de Mandriva. Unity Linux ya está tomando una muy activa +participación en las discusiones. Otros son bienvenidos a unirse: +simplemente contáctennos en IRC, por listas de correo o por el correo +personal. + +¡De nuevo, estamos muy agradecidos por el apoyo! +---------------------------------------------------------------- + +Cheers, +vfmBOFH +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8e7aac3c/attachment.html> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000162.html">[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000163.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#176">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#176">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#176">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#176">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000177.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000177.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4e6bf102c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000177.html @@ -0,0 +1,141 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3C201009240355.31343.yorick_%40openoffice.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000175.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000180.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Graham Lauder</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3C201009240355.31343.yorick_%40openoffice.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">yorick_ at openoffice.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 17:55:31 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#177">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#177">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#177">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#177">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Friday 24 Sep 2010 02:16:30 Tux99 wrote: +><i> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Peter Watson wrote: +</I>><i> > Now we really need someone with marketing expertise to drive this +</I>><i> > issue forward. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Question is WHO? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Umm, I'm sure Graham already said that he is offering himself. +</I> +Indeed, being involved at the genesis of a project such as this is exciting as +hell. + +><i> +</I>><i> Graham, I'm not a marketing person, but I agree with almost everything +</I>><i> you say, the only thing that I don't agree with is that the name should +</I>><i> be up for debate. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Too many practical things depend on the name so if whe change the name, +</I>><i> everything else will be on hold until then. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I do think Mageia is a good name, that is versatile enough for you to +</I>><i> work with, it sounds exotic (I didn't know it was greek, it sounded +</I>><i> spanish to me when i first read it) it's short and unique. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So IMHO feel free to drive the marketing whichever way you like, but +</I>><i> please don't ask for a name change. +</I>><i> +</I> +Heh, we do get possessive about these things and that is often a problem. + +All I'm saying is ask the question, I'm not making any judgements here about +the name, I can't, I don''t have enough information, for the same reason no- +one should say that the name is sacrosanct. + +The reason that marketing guys often come into a situation and have to say +"Change the name!" was invariably because the name was not given any +consideration in terms of the market. I mean a Bed manufacturer called +"HiTech Concrete" would not make many sales. I know that's an extreme example, +but you get the idea. + +A name has to say something about the organisation, it has to give people a +handle to grab onto to differentiate it from the crowd. Redhat didn't have a +crowd to differentiate itself from when it started but it added Linux to the +name to differentiate it from the main opposition. + +CentOS defined it's market with it's name "Community Enterprise Operating +System" ie supplying an enterprise level OS to Community organisations. + +Ubuntu however used it's name to define a philosophy that resonated with it's +target market. + +We have to remember that the name is just part of the branding and brand +meaning is defined by the consumer of our product. For us the brand should +follow our Vision and Mission statement, the name ideally should be part of +that branding process. + +Now having said all that, :) + +It is not a given that the name needs to change, any good marketing team will +say "OK How do we make it work for us" + +Somebody suggested "The Magic Continues" as a positioner. + +Marketing's first responsibility is to the customer, we will look at the brand +from their point of view not from our own. This is a mistake that many FOSS +communities fall into, they brand to satisfy an internal aesthetic, the +community of developers, rather than the greater community of users. + +Any decisions that Marketing make will have to be sold to the board in any +case and I wouldn't have it any other way. + +Cheers +GL + +-- +Graham Lauder, +OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ +<A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A> + +OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. + +INGOTs Assessor Trainer +(International Grades in Open Technologies) +www.theingots.org +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#177">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#177">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#177">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#177">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000178.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000178.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..41c68e1b7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000178.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Hello + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Hello&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikC%2BDXTQOo5-1Pti83fjivWHdFsjewgoRG940kJ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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He convinced me. +Please, don't shoot me for bringing the idea of renaming in discussion. +My experience as software developer tells me that chosing wrong in the +beginning comes with great suffer after and might be harder and harder to +fix it. +What is the target of Mageia after all? And who? +Me, only me, I like to think of Mageia as a fine trick of Babylon 5 +Technomages. +I would like to see it full of high tech references, less mystique, more +technical metaphors - I prefer an orb split two revealing circuits, than +witches. I've always liked to look forward, into space age, rather than +middle ages. +But this is just me AFAIK... +And I love Mandriva as final product, so I fully trust its core developers +that forked Mageia. I watched them for years and I feel about them as they +are my friends. Please don't seed the discontent now, from the beginning. It +was enough Mandriva's story. +No matter the name - you might change it again or not - I will follow. + +Mike, +user. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8400435b/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#180">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#180">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#180">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#180">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000181.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000181.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..de380c308 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000181.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinwfAvzbbzq2f89RM1imfhgfPzU5FCiumXudVG7%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000180.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000182.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinwfAvzbbzq2f89RM1imfhgfPzU5FCiumXudVG7%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 20:05:12 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#181">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#181">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#181">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#181">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I like simple logos. + +Simple not necesarily should be poor or ugly. + +Logos like Apple, Logitech, RedHat, Pepsi, eyeos, Avast, Facebook, +Joomla, Opera, even Ubuntu and the "evil" Windows are simple, but look +great. You can put them wherever you want and they still look good. + +I know, some of these logos are almost implanted in our brains because +of years of marketing. Maybe that's because we see them great. + +But they are simple, maybe some are a little abstract. But they +have... how can I call it... power? + +That's what we should try to achieve with Mageia's logo. Not an ugly +penguin with a hat and a magic wand. You see my point? + +Cheers! + + +tavillo1980 +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#181">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#181">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#181">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#181">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000182.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000182.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..927a9189e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000182.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikf%3DHqJQbirHbu%3DT3grx0Y_k_rJAgcRfhVBDJ0n%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000181.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000183.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikf%3DHqJQbirHbu%3DT3grx0Y_k_rJAgcRfhVBDJ0n%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">msdobrescu at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 20:08:58 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#182">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#182">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#182">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#182">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>+100 + +On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli < +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> I like simple logos. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Simple not necesarily should be poor or ugly. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Logos like Apple, Logitech, RedHat, Pepsi, eyeos, Avast, Facebook, +</I>><i> Joomla, Opera, even Ubuntu and the "evil" Windows are simple, but look +</I>><i> great. You can put them wherever you want and they still look good. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I know, some of these logos are almost implanted in our brains because +</I>><i> of years of marketing. Maybe that's because we see them great. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But they are simple, maybe some are a little abstract. But they +</I>><i> have... how can I call it... power? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's what we should try to achieve with Mageia's logo. Not an ugly +</I>><i> penguin with a hat and a magic wand. You see my point? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> tavillo1980 +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-dev mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/c7b84667/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#182">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#182">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#182">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#182">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000183.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000183.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b97bf9d1d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000183.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7gckv%24jeq%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000182.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000184.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7gckv%24jeq%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 22:17:32 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#183">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#183">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#183">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#183">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I think in the grand scheme of things, we should all acknowledge that +should the name "Mageia" not work, that a name change would be a +possibility, just as a logo change is still a possibility. We have seen +this from many OSS firms who went through this process. + +We should be careful in making the distro too "cottagey" or "home grown" +in looks and flavour. I would suggest that the long term vision for the +distro also include a commercial aspect. There should be a community +driven distro and a commercial distro (read server). If we organise +under these terms, then the choice of name, logo and branding changes. + +A name and logo for the Mageia project should exude a community spirit +as well a professional corporate spirit. Would a business have a problem +repeating "We use the Mageia distro to run our servers and our +desktops."? I personally think that the name is solid in this case, +whether for community or corporate use. Side note: I prefer the "soft g" +sound of the name --- " Mah jay ah " (more like the French "j'ai" sound) +-- it sounds classy. + +So, the logo should then follow suit and exude the same feeling. It +should reflect both a feeling of community as well as bear the scrutiny +of corporate world. Would they feel confident in hanging our shingle +(read logo) on their website's front page? I too tend to sway more +towards the simple logo concept. I don't personally think that a magic +wand would not work in a corporate setting, this would then limit it's +use. We would then have to adopt a corporate logo. I am not sure if this +would make good sense as, in a way, we would then be fragmenting the +distro. A solid logo for both, in my opinion, would make the most sense. + +Marc + + + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#183">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#183">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#183">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#183">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000184.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000184.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0bbcbde60 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000184.html @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinppaPMV4Kim%2Bq5apx%2BxZyNuGHHYnQGqpE35uWe%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000183.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000185.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinppaPMV4Kim%2Bq5apx%2BxZyNuGHHYnQGqpE35uWe%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">msdobrescu at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 22:28:03 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000185.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#184">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#184">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#184">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#184">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Marc Paré <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marc at marcpare.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> I think in the grand scheme of things, we should all acknowledge that +</I>><i> should the name "Mageia" not work, that a name change would be a +</I>><i> possibility, just as a logo change is still a possibility. We have seen this +</I>><i> from many OSS firms who went through this process. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We should be careful in making the distro too "cottagey" or "home grown" in +</I>><i> looks and flavour. I would suggest that the long term vision for the distro +</I>><i> also include a commercial aspect. There should be a community driven distro +</I>><i> and a commercial distro (read server). If we organise under these terms, +</I>><i> then the choice of name, logo and branding changes. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A name and logo for the Mageia project should exude a community spirit as +</I>><i> well a professional corporate spirit. Would a business have a problem +</I>><i> repeating "We use the Mageia distro to run our servers and our desktops."? I +</I>><i> personally think that the name is solid in this case, whether for community +</I>><i> or corporate use. Side note: I prefer the "soft g" sound of the name --- " +</I>><i> Mah jay ah " (more like the French "j'ai" sound) -- it sounds classy. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, the logo should then follow suit and exude the same feeling. It should +</I>><i> reflect both a feeling of community as well as bear the scrutiny of +</I>><i> corporate world. Would they feel confident in hanging our shingle (read +</I>><i> logo) on their website's front page? I too tend to sway more towards the +</I>><i> simple logo concept. I don't personally think that a magic wand would not +</I>><i> work in a corporate setting, this would then limit it's use. We would then +</I>><i> have to adopt a corporate logo. I am not sure if this would make good sense +</I>><i> as, in a way, we would then be fragmenting the distro. A solid logo for +</I>><i> both, in my opinion, would make the most sense. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-dev mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +I'm just a user. I totally agree, although I like to play a little. +I do need a sleek and serious logo/symbol to the OS I use, usually a limo, +but able to deploy a +super-space-age-robot-ready-to-save-the-universe-if-necessary feeling. This +is what I expect. Hope I did not scared you all :D. 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We have seen +</I>><i> this from many OSS firms who went through this process. +</I> +How do you assess that it is the name that do not work and that's not +anything else ? + +><i> We should be careful in making the distro too "cottagey" or "home grown" +</I>><i> in looks and flavour. I would suggest that the long term vision for the +</I>><i> distro also include a commercial aspect. There should be a community +</I>><i> driven distro and a commercial distro (read server). +</I> +I fear that this scheme does look like too much the one that caused +problem in the past within Mandriva community, with contradictions +between the community nature and the more commercial version. + +How would you ensure that the community version will not be seen as a +cheap version of the commercial one ? How would you prevent this idea +from destroying again the community like it did by the past ? + +If theses questions are not solved, I think all attempts to redo the +mistakes of the past are bound to recreate the failures of the past. +And I think that none of us think that's a desirable outcome. + +All people who I asked the question said that the only solution is to +have 2 different names and brandings. +Redhat do it, and it work fine from them. +Novell do it, and it work fine. +Canonical do it ( to a lesser extend , since there was +<A HREF="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/375345">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/375345</A> ), and it work +fine. + +Even debian based distro used a different name ( progeny, etc ). + +We didn't for Mandriva, and so started the confusion between the +company, the distribution and the community. And so people didn't +contribute because it was a business, and the idea that "updates were +not free" stick around for a long time because it was hard to explain to +people the different concept + +So if there is a business or commercial version, I think this would +requires a different name and branding. Using the association name for +that would not be right, in my opinion. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-dev] Hello +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#185">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#185">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#185">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#185">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000191.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000191.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bd95f9448 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/000191.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3C1285260515.14123.2.camel%40localhost%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000179.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding</H1> + <B>Nex6</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Art%2C%20Logo%20and%20Branding&In-Reply-To=%3C1285260515.14123.2.camel%40localhost%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding">borg1911-n6 at yahoo.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Sep 23 18:48:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-dev] Hello +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#191">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#191">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#191">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#191">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 01:22 +0200, Tux99 wrote: +><i> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, [UTF-8] Marc Paré wrote: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Best to have these discussions at the initial stages of the project +</I>><i> > rather than later after everything has been firmed up. It is certainly +</I>><i> > harder/painful to change name and logos after they have been adopted. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Just in case, you never know, Mageia could actually become a good +</I>><i> > contender in the top listed distro market. It certainly has the momentum +</I>><i> > at this time. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Marc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe you don't realise it, but the momentum would be quickly lost if +</I>><i> you start to pollute the original objectives with commercial aims, a +</I>><i> large part of the enthusiasm is BECAUSE Mageia is non-profit. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I would not contribute to Mageia (neither money nor time) if it becomes +</I>><i> for-profit and I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I really hope that the foundation charta makes this very clear (the +</I>><i> non-profit scope) else it would cause a lot of momentum to evaporate. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Again, Debian or the Linux kernel project are IMHO the examples to +</I>><i> follow, nothing else. +</I> +I agree; The only reason I came over to Mageia was its not for profit +open community nature. + +-Nex6 +><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-dev mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> +</I> + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-dev] Hello +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#191">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#191">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#191">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#191">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..89dc2e10f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20100923/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,207 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 23 September 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>23 September 2010 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Sep 23 01:32:35 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Sep 23 23:58:30 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 32<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="000164.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="164"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="175"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000166.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="166"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="180"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="182"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="184"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-dev] Hello +</A><A NAME="178"> </A> +<I>Jan Gehring +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="167"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000169.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="169"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="172"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="181"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000163.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="163"> </A> +<I>Graham Lauder +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="177"> </A> +<I>Graham Lauder +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000161.html">[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen +</A><A NAME="161"> </A> +<I>Adrian Marcinkowski +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="165"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="173"> </A> +<I>Francesc Martinez +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="191"> </A> +<I>Nex6 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000160.html">[Mageia-dev] State of the kitchen +</A><A NAME="160"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="183"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000155.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? 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href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Sep 23 01:32:35 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Sep 23 23:58:30 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 32<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01285198355- --> +<LI><A HREF="000155.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? +</A><A NAME="155"> </A> +<I>Matheus Santana +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285198355-01285198667- --> +<LI><A HREF="000156.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? +</A><A NAME="156"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285198355-01285198667-01285198864- --> +<LI><A HREF="000159.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? +</A><A NAME="159"> </A> +<I>alktodostemen alko +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285198355-01285198708- --> +<LI><A HREF="000157.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? +</A><A NAME="157"> </A> +<I>alktodostemen alko +</I> + +<!--1 01285198355-01285198801- --> +<LI><A HREF="000158.html">[Mageia-dev] Help? +</A><A NAME="158"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285198831- --> +<LI><A 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+<UL> +<!--3 01285246822-01285250380-01285251390-01285251968- --> +<LI><A HREF="000172.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="172"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<!--3 01285246822-01285250380-01285251390-01285252173- --> +<LI><A HREF="000173.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="173"> </A> +<I>Francesc Martinez +</I> + +<!--3 01285246822-01285250380-01285251390-01285253615- --> +<LI><A HREF="000174.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="174"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<!--3 01285246822-01285250380-01285251390-01285253615-01285254196- --> +<LI><A HREF="000175.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="175"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<!--3 01285246822-01285250380-01285251390-01285257331- --> +<LI><A HREF="000177.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="177"> </A> +<I>Graham Lauder +</I> + +<!--3 01285246822-01285250380-01285251390-01285257331-01285263941- --> +<LI><A HREF="000180.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="180"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<!--3 01285246822-01285250380-01285251390-01285257331-01285263941-01285265112- --> +<LI><A HREF="000181.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="181"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<!--3 01285246822-01285250380-01285251390-01285257331-01285263941-01285265112-01285265338- --> +<LI><A HREF="000182.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="182"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<!--3 01285246822-01285250380-01285251390-01285257331-01285263941-01285265112-01285265338-01285273052- --> +<LI><A HREF="000183.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="183"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<!--3 01285246822-01285250380-01285251390-01285257331-01285263941-01285265112-01285265338-01285273052-01285273683- --> +<LI><A HREF="000184.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="184"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<!--3 01285246822-01285250380-01285251390-01285257331-01285263941-01285265112-01285265338-01285273052-01285279110- --> +<LI><A HREF="000185.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="185"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285258320- --> +<LI><A HREF="000178.html">[Mageia-dev] Hello +</A><A NAME="178"> </A> +<I>Jan Gehring +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285258320-01285258674- --> +<LI><A HREF="000179.html">[Mageia-dev] Hello +</A><A NAME="179"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285260515- --> +<LI><A HREF="000191.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A><A NAME="191"> </A> +<I>Nex6 +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Thu Sep 23 23:58:30 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Sep 24 01:49:09 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a 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