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Their palette is in colors of my home, but un my top box I need to +have somethinng geek, shiny, cool, sci-fi, strong, aggressive... +That's why I do prefer an orb as logo, because it is so versatile. The +shape, materials, the symbols. Easy to remember. But I guess it is taken... +Is it? +Ubuntu failed miserably in my case... In look and stability. I think it is +of a good marketing though. +Is the name 'Mageia' immutable? Do you suggest to rename it? + +On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Graham Lauder <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yorick_ at openoffice.org</A>>wrote: + +><i> The artguide and logo guidelines are seriously incomplete and need a lot of +</I>><i> work. Free software projects have a history of rushing into branding that +</I>><i> they will be stuck with for a very long time, from logo to colour scheme to +</I>><i> pallett. If it's not thought through and given the consideration it needs, +</I>><i> it +</I>><i> can turn into a millstone around the projects neck or a chaotic round of +</I>><i> ever +</I>><i> changing looks that confuses the market. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The project needs to get it's branding process it's organised. Until then +</I>><i> everything should be fluid, even the name should be seen as a "Working +</I>><i> Title". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So therefore: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We need to identify our vision, +</I>><i> Identify the way we want the world to see us. +</I>><i> We need to identify our target market +</I>><i> and then come up with a Brand to suit that market. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The brand does not have to be out there until the announcement of the first +</I>><i> release. +</I>><i> The brand that is created now, will shackle the Marketing team for all +</I>><i> time. +</I>><i> The marketing team will only hang around if the brand is good. Hackers +</I>><i> need +</I>><i> the tools to do their job, if the IDE they are forced to use when making +</I>><i> code +</I>><i> is a pile of shit then they'll go elsewhere. It's the same with marketers, +</I>><i> give them a good brand and they'll come in droves to be part of it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ubuntu's strength was in that initial marketing, targeted at 18 to 35 age +</I>><i> group with warm a comforting and attractive pallett (Browns Reds and +</I>><i> Yellows) +</I>><i> and a slightly zany way of doing things (Warty Warthog and so on) They +</I>><i> identified a market of young people of above average intelligence who were +</I>><i> not satisfied with the cold clinical professional brand of principal market +</I>><i> leader. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This group had several advantageous facets to them. +</I>><i> 1) They were leaders and early adopters of new technology +</I>><i> 2) They were rebellious to a degree +</I>><i> 3) They had a very positive view of themselves +</I>><i> 4) They felt that they deserved to be noticed and that the world should do +</I>><i> stuff for them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So Ubuntu's branding is aimed directly at that market and very +</I>><i> successfully. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The problem that many projects suffer from is that they come up with a +</I>><i> branding that feels good to their own community, while ignoring the market. +</I>><i> And make no bones about it, much of the reason that Ubuntu gets lots of +</I>><i> developers is because of it's wide user base. That makes it sexy, the +</I>><i> opportunity to be famous: "I am part of that.." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now there is a good argument to be made for going after the same market for +</I>><i> all of the above reasons. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We can learn some lessons from the way Ubuntu did things. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> They leveraged their location, used a local language and traditions to give +</I>><i> them a name and a story: Ubuntu = Humanity to Humans and a logo that +</I>><i> reflects +</I>><i> and enhances that story. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For me, for this project, I think it's untapped branding strength is in +</I>><i> it's +</I>><i> Latin South American Heritage. Connectiva. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Connection, +</I>><i> Computers are about connecting with others and when the world thinks about +</I>><i> South America and connecting they think Dance, .. Tango. If it was my +</I>><i> project +</I>><i> in these circumstances I'd be calling it Tango-Linux. The name even +</I>><i> immediately evokes the branding colours and the pallet, Bold Blacks, Fiery +</I>><i> Reds and silvers, the colours of passion. Tango evokes passion, rebellion +</I>><i> but at the same time precision and teamwork. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Unfortunately there is already a Tango Linux, not to mention the Tango Icon +</I>><i> project, but you get the idea. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To conclude: my point is that there needs to be much more consideration +</I>><i> given +</I>><i> to the branding elements at this point before we start voting on logos and +</I>><i> the +</I>><i> like and I would like to see everything up for discussion, name included, +</I>><i> we +</I>><i> are brand new, the world is watching, this is our unique opportunity we +</I>><i> need +</I>><i> to stamp our mark boldly but with serious consideration of our goals. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course the communities desire maybe just to stay as a small minor player +</I>><i> in +</I>><i> the desktop universe, but if that's the case this is not the Mandrake I +</I>><i> knew +</I>><i> back at 8.0 when It was on every other computer magazine cover CD, and it +</I>><i> was +</I>><i> going after the market in a big way, not worrying about the Ubuntus and +</I>><i> Redhats but out to take down the Redmond machine. Personally I think that +</I>><i> spirit is still there. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Graham Lauder, +</I>><i> OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> INGOTs Assessor Trainer +</I>><i> (International Grades in Open Technologies) +</I>><i> www.theingots.org +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-dev mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/2394fcea/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000165.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000167.html">[Mageia-dev] Art, Logo and Branding +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#166">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#166">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#166">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#166">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |