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+ <B>Marek Laane</B>
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+<PRE>Mageia salutation night in Tallinn
+
+On Saturday, June 4th, almost dozen people were celebrating the very first
+release of Mageia in Tallinn, Estonia. Cosy cafe
+Mosaiik&lt;<A HREF="http://www.mosaiikcafe.ee/">http://www.mosaiikcafe.ee/</A>&gt;provided us with big screen for
+demonstrations and some food and a great
+cream cake specially made for this (see the picture
+here&lt;<A HREF="http://mageia.planet.ee/2011/06/mageia-avapeol/">http://mageia.planet.ee/2011/06/mageia-avapeol/</A>&gt;
+).
+As planned, most important part of the meeting was install fest. That was
+total sucess; we did update from Mandriva 2010.0, did install from Live CD
+and did clean install, all without problem. Alright, there were some
+problems but nothing to do with Mageia - Wi-Fi network we used was quite
+unstable causing minor troubles.
+Most people attending were profound Mandriva and Mageia users but there were
+some knowing both of them just by name (or, in case of Mandriva/Mandrake, by
+distant memory). They were positively surprised the infant distribution was
+so perfect.
+We had planned also to create Estonian Mageia Users Group but, though there
+was some talk about it, it didn&#8217;t happen yet. Maybe sometimes later... We
+all hope Mageia would win more followers in Estonia as it&#8217;s profoundly
+localized and even provides the package task-esteid which is just essential
+in Estonia due to our &#8220;omnipotential&#8221; and almost ubiquitous electronic ID
+card.
+You may see a group photo &lt;<A HREF="http://mageia.planet.ee/2011/06/mageia-avapeol/">http://mageia.planet.ee/2011/06/mageia-avapeol/</A>&gt;in
+Estonian website specially dedicated to Mageia (as the site is all Estonian,
+you may need awfully clumsy but still understandable Google Translate&#8217;s
+translation&lt;<A HREF="http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=et&amp;sl=et&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fmageia.planet.ee%2F2011%2F06%2Fmageia-avapeol%2F">http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=et&amp;sl=et&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fmageia.planet.ee%2F2011%2F06%2Fmageia-avapeol%2F</A>&gt;
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+ <B>David W. Hodgins</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:44:12 -0400, Maurice Batey &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 16:00:58 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The difference between the Mageia rpm and the Mandriva rpm from the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> VirtualBox website is the version of python and libcrypto that it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> built to use.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So if one installs Mageia's VBox and the extension pack, USB will
+</I>&gt;<i> then be available?
+</I>
+It should be, and is working for most people.
+
+The host Virtual box/extension pack, and the guest additions must all
+match version numbers.
+
+On the one system (an upgrade from Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia beta 2
+then updated via urpmi to final), I had to add the .conf file under
+/etc/ld.so.conf.d, to get it to work. Seems most systems do not
+need that.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+ <B>Jim Whitby</B>
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+<PRE>Upgrade from Mdv 2010.2
+
+I cannot get the ifw to display. It doesn't appear in netapplet menu.
+Have done all the same things I did in Mdv.
+
+Any suggestions?
+Or any info needed?
+
+
+--
+Real Men don't make backups. They upload it via ftp and let the world mirror it.
+ -- Linus Torvalds
+----------------------
+Mageia release 1 (Official) for x86_64
+2.6.38.7-desktop-1.mga x86_64
+----------------------
+
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+<PRE>Marc Par&#233; a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Remco
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 2011-06-05 05:39, Remco Rijnders a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 10:27:56PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But back to the initial topic:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The issue here is the request to have another list which covers
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> exactly what the forums are made for. Is this really necessary and -
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the main question - would this list have a chance to be living along a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> forum? Mind that a users support list would NOT be the same as this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> list here, you can't judge what would happen in a user support list by
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> looking who is posting here in this list!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Who knows what will happen? Will Mageia succeed as a distribution? Who
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> knows. You won't know for certain till you've tried it. There is no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> guarantee a mailing list set up for this purpose will fail, nor is there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that it won't.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Some of the feedback I received so far seems to give arguments in favour
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of a mailing list and then draws the opposite conclusion that a mailing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> list won't be needed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Other feedback indicates this list *is* / *isn't* the appropiate place
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for user questions, and despite the opposing view points both conclude
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that there is no need for a mageia-user@ list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What I can conclude from the discussion of the past few days is that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> despite support from several people for the creation of such a list,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that there is as much or more opposition to it for a variety of reasons
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (most which I personally disagree with). As such, it seems unlikely that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> such a list will officially be set up in the near future.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'll personally let the subject rest for now and will reevaluate the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> compatibility between my views and ideas for Mageia with that of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> founders. Apologies should anyone feel I have wasted their time bringing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this up.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sincerely,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Remco
+</I>
+Not wasting our time. You had something to discuss.
+And don't hesitate to bring your support problems here, or on the forum. :)
+
+&gt;<i> As I have come into the discussion at a very late date, I would like to
+</I>&gt;<i> express my point of view as well FOR a &quot;user support list&quot;. We should
+</I>&gt;<i> provide to all users a variety of ways by which they are able to
+</I>&gt;<i> communicate problems with the Mageia team. IMO it seems defeatist to
+</I>&gt;<i> remove one of the most logical tools known to the internet community
+</I>&gt;<i> where they could seek communication with a support team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As we all know by now, such a support list can easily be bridged to a a
+</I>&gt;<i> forums board where any of the Mageia support team members would be
+</I>&gt;<i> available to help trouble-shoot events causing frustration to our user
+</I>&gt;<i> base.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It does not make any sense to cut off any avenues of communication for
+</I>&gt;<i> our user base when we are looking for growth of our product. If we do
+</I>&gt;<i> so, the we can not complain later of of user apathy if users cannot
+</I>&gt;<i> easily find a communication model by which they feel comfortable to
+</I>&gt;<i> voice their satisfaction, positive or negative.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's make it easy for all to speak to us rather than have them conform
+</I>&gt;<i> to a system where they may feel uncomfortable. They will only go to
+</I>&gt;<i> another platform where they will be able to participate freely. Let's
+</I>&gt;<i> offer choice rather than limits.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>
+Salut Marc
+Actually most of the arguments here were against a _separate_ user support list.
+So far, the discussion list has been used regularly for user support, and apparently with a fairly
+good response. It makes sense, as there is considerable overlap. Often a support problem is
+closely related to discussion of what should happen. And those interested in discussion are
+generally very willing to help if they can.
+
+If you look at the Mandriva experience, the user support by email has reduced considerably over the
+years as their forum has become more active. (I was a Mandriva user almost from the beginning.)
+There, as with Mageia, support also occurs on both the discussion and development lists.
+
+As far as the idea of replicating forum and mailing list input, that could well come. But since
+Mageia is still fairly early in the building stage, we don't yet have the resources to do
+everything we might like to do, if we collectively decide to do that.
+
+Anyway, of course everyone's input is welcome.
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+</I>&gt;<i> On 6/5/11, Thomas Backlund&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For Mageia 2 anything but core will be disabled by default.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And when the installer notices the need of something from nonfree, it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will ask to enable it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As long as it asks, that's OK because that will prevent a lot of
+</I>&gt;<i> unnecessary requests for help for &quot;My XYZ doesn't work. Bad Mageia!!&quot;
+</I>
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+I like the idea of a dedicated support ml for users. Ubuntu is using such
+lists and it is very well used even there exists irc and forums as well.
+
+So why shouldn't we try something like that? If it's not used we can delete
+the list and use the forums instead.
+
+Like already mentioned the users should decide which kind of medium to use
+to ask their questions.
+
+So far
+
+On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:36 AM, andre999 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andr55 at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Marc Par&#233; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Remco
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 2011-06-05 05:39, Remco Rijnders a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 10:27:56PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But back to the initial topic:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The issue here is the request to have another list which covers
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> exactly what the forums are made for. Is this really necessary and -
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the main question - would this list have a chance to be living along a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> forum? Mind that a users support list would NOT be the same as this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> list here, you can't judge what would happen in a user support list by
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> looking who is posting here in this list!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Who knows what will happen? Will Mageia succeed as a distribution? Who
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> knows. You won't know for certain till you've tried it. There is no
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> guarantee a mailing list set up for this purpose will fail, nor is there
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that it won't.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Some of the feedback I received so far seems to give arguments in favour
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> of a mailing list and then draws the opposite conclusion that a mailing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> list won't be needed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Other feedback indicates this list *is* / *isn't* the appropiate place
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for user questions, and despite the opposing view points both conclude
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that there is no need for a mageia-user@ list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What I can conclude from the discussion of the past few days is that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> despite support from several people for the creation of such a list,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that there is as much or more opposition to it for a variety of reasons
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (most which I personally disagree with). As such, it seems unlikely that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> such a list will officially be set up in the near future.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'll personally let the subject rest for now and will reevaluate the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> compatibility between my views and ideas for Mageia with that of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> founders. Apologies should anyone feel I have wasted their time bringing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this up.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sincerely,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Remco
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not wasting our time. You had something to discuss.
+</I>&gt;<i> And don't hesitate to bring your support problems here, or on the forum. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As I have come into the discussion at a very late date, I would like to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> express my point of view as well FOR a &quot;user support list&quot;. We should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> provide to all users a variety of ways by which they are able to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> communicate problems with the Mageia team. IMO it seems defeatist to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> remove one of the most logical tools known to the internet community
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> where they could seek communication with a support team.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As we all know by now, such a support list can easily be bridged to a a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> forums board where any of the Mageia support team members would be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> available to help trouble-shoot events causing frustration to our user
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> base.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It does not make any sense to cut off any avenues of communication for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> our user base when we are looking for growth of our product. If we do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so, the we can not complain later of of user apathy if users cannot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> easily find a communication model by which they feel comfortable to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> voice their satisfaction, positive or negative.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Let's make it easy for all to speak to us rather than have them conform
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to a system where they may feel uncomfortable. They will only go to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> another platform where they will be able to participate freely. Let's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> offer choice rather than limits.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Salut Marc
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually most of the arguments here were against a _separate_ user support
+</I>&gt;<i> list.
+</I>&gt;<i> So far, the discussion list has been used regularly for user support, and
+</I>&gt;<i> apparently with a fairly good response. It makes sense, as there is
+</I>&gt;<i> considerable overlap. Often a support problem is closely related to
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion of what should happen. And those interested in discussion are
+</I>&gt;<i> generally very willing to help if they can.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you look at the Mandriva experience, the user support by email has
+</I>&gt;<i> reduced considerably over the years as their forum has become more active.
+</I>&gt;<i> (I was a Mandriva user almost from the beginning.)
+</I>&gt;<i> There, as with Mageia, support also occurs on both the discussion and
+</I>&gt;<i> development lists.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As far as the idea of replicating forum and mailing list input, that could
+</I>&gt;<i> well come. But since Mageia is still fairly early in the building stage, we
+</I>&gt;<i> don't yet have the resources to do everything we might like to do, if we
+</I>&gt;<i> collectively decide to do that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway, of course everyone's input is welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i> (And you don't need to apologize, obviously your input is well intended.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Take care :)
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Andr&#233;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+is it possible to use Gnome3 instead of 2.32? Is there something already in
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+I'm thinking to switch from Fedora 15 to Mageia on my notebook because
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+<PRE>Le 06/06/2011 10:41, Daniel Kreuter a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is it possible to use Gnome3 instead of 2.32? Is there something
+</I>&gt;<i> already in the repositories or do i need to compile all packages on my
+</I>&gt;<i> own?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm thinking to switch from Fedora 15 to Mageia on my notebook because
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora needs too much time to boot up.
+</I>
+On the other hand, I'd like to still have the possibility to keep and
+install Gnome 2.xx in the future, as Gnome 3 isn't both stable and
+reliable and complete yet.
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+&gt;<i> Hello all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is it possible to use Gnome3 instead of 2.32? Is there something already in
+</I>&gt;<i> the repositories or do i need to compile all packages on my own?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm thinking to switch from Fedora 15 to Mageia on my notebook because
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora needs too much time to boot up.
+</I>
+As has been written several times now in this list and the forum and
+other places, Gnome3 *may* or *may not* be an option for Mageia 2
+depending on the result of coming up discussions.
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+<PRE>Daniel Kreuter a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I like the idea of a dedicated support ml for users. Ubuntu is using
+</I>&gt;<i> such lists and it is very well used even there exists irc and forums as
+</I>&gt;<i> well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So why shouldn't we try something like that? If it's not used we can
+</I>&gt;<i> delete the list and use the forums instead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Like already mentioned the users should decide which kind of medium to
+</I>&gt;<i> use to ask their questions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So far
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+Yes indeed.
+According to the Ubuntu wiki, the &quot;ubuntu-users&quot; mailing list is for &quot;Ubuntu help and user discussions&quot;
+They do not have a separate user discussion list.
+
+This mailing list, called Mageia-discuss, is for user discussions and help.
+So why would you want to split this list ?
+You're just going to remove many of the people who help.
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+&gt;<i>Daniel Kreuter a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>Hello all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>I like the idea of a dedicated support ml for users. Ubuntu is using
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>such lists and it is very well used even there exists irc and forums as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>well.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>So why shouldn't we try something like that? If it's not used we can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>delete the list and use the forums instead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>Like already mentioned the users should decide which kind of medium to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>use to ask their questions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>So far
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Yes indeed.
+</I>&gt;<i>According to the Ubuntu wiki, the &quot;ubuntu-users&quot; mailing list is for &quot;Ubuntu help and user discussions&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>They do not have a separate user discussion list.
+</I>
+I'm not too familiar with the Ubuntu-way of things, but
+<A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/">https://lists.ubuntu.com/</A> has the following:
+
+Community Support
+ubuntu-users - Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions
+
+I agree that they do not seem to have a general discussion list, though I
+think this one (last one) would come closest similar to the discussions we
+have on here:
+
+Development Lists
+ubuntu-devel - Ubuntu Development (developers)
+ubuntu-devel-discuss - Ubuntu Development (users and developers)
+
+Other discuss subjects have their own lists to discuss these subjects.
+
+&gt;<i>This mailing list, called Mageia-discuss, is for user discussions and help.
+</I>&gt;<i>So why would you want to split this list ?
+</I>&gt;<i>You're just going to remove many of the people who help.
+</I>
+I am not sure if this is true. Anyways, if this list is the appropiate
+place for end user technical support questions, then it surely is not very
+clear. Our documentation and webpages only point to the forums and IRC
+channel for support. Also, I feel the current name is a bit of a misnomer
+then as it currently is.
+
+Still, why not have one mailinglist for everything then? If any split will
+result in removing people providing useful input, then we are already
+functioning suboptimally.
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+Cheers,
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+&gt;<i> &gt; So if one installs Mageia's VBox and the extension pack, USB will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; then be available?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It should be, and is working for most people.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The host Virtual box/extension pack, and the guest additions must all
+</I>&gt;<i> match version numbers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On the one system (an upgrade from Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia beta 2
+</I>&gt;<i> then updated via urpmi to final), I had to add the .conf file under
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/ld.so.conf.d, to get it to work. Seems most systems do not
+</I>&gt;<i> need that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>
+I did that as well.
+
+I have had to reinstall my Mageia system. Somehow, installing Ubuntu on a
+spare partition trashed it. I will try again, just in case there was a bug in
+my system.
+
+Doug Laidlaw.
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+P.S.: I am not looking forward to wrestling with Grub2.
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+<PRE>2011/6/6 Remco Rijnders &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remco at webconquest.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 05:10:20AM -0400, andre999 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Daniel Kreuter a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I like the idea of a dedicated support ml for users. Ubuntu is using
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> such lists and it is very well used even there exists irc and forums as
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> well.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So why shouldn't we try something like that? If it's not used we can
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> delete the list and use the forums instead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Like already mentioned the users should decide which kind of medium to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> use to ask their questions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So far
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Daniel Kreuter
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes indeed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> According to the Ubuntu wiki, the &quot;ubuntu-users&quot; mailing list is for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Ubuntu help and user discussions&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> They do not have a separate user discussion list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not too familiar with the Ubuntu-way of things, but
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/">https://lists.ubuntu.com/</A> has the following:
+</I>&gt;<i> Community Support
+</I>&gt;<i> ubuntu-users - Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree that they do not seem to have a general discussion list, though I
+</I>&gt;<i> think this one (last one) would come closest similar to the discussions we
+</I>&gt;<i> have on here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Development Lists
+</I>&gt;<i> ubuntu-devel - Ubuntu Development (developers)
+</I>&gt;<i> ubuntu-devel-discuss - Ubuntu Development (users and developers)
+</I>
+No, you are missing the important word &quot;devel&quot; in the name.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> This mailing list, called Mageia-discuss, is for user discussions and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> help.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So why would you want to split this list ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You're just going to remove many of the people who help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Still, why not have one mailinglist for everything then? If any split will
+</I>&gt;<i> result in removing people providing useful input, then we are already
+</I>&gt;<i> functioning suboptimally.
+</I>
+No, not true. We have but one list which is aimed at the general
+public: this list here. It's purpose is general discussion about
+Mageia. There's no word about support in the description.
+All other lists are open to the public for the sake of transparency,
+but each of them has a special target group (i18n, marcomm, artwork,
+sysadmin, packagers, council, etc.).
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 06:37:34 PM <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; So if one installs Mageia's VBox and the extension pack, USB will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; then be available?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It should be, and is working for most people.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The host Virtual box/extension pack, and the guest additions must all
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; match version numbers.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On the one system (an upgrade from Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia beta 2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; then updated via urpmi to final), I had to add the .conf file under
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /etc/ld.so.conf.d, to get it to work. Seems most systems do not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; need that.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did that as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have had to reinstall my Mageia system. Somehow, installing Ubuntu on a
+</I>&gt;<i> spare partition trashed it. I will try again, just in case there was a bug
+</I>&gt;<i> in my system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug Laidlaw.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> P.S.: I am not looking forward to wrestling with Grub2.
+</I>
+I found the correct version of libcrypto among my Adobe Reader files in /opt.
+
+I have reinstalled the latest VirtualBox. I have installed the extension pack
+several times, but it isn't recognized.The Windows guest runs happily but
+doesn't make the two USB devices available as it should. The Ubuntu guest
+crashes with a message that it was last closed down with USB 2.0 enabled and I
+need to install the extension pack -- or disable USB 2.0 in its config somehow.
+
+I did have the config file that Dave mentioned, but now I can't find the
+reference.
+
+Ready to give up.
+
+Doug.
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+&gt;<i> I found the correct version of libcrypto among my Adobe Reader files in /opt.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have reinstalled the latest VirtualBox. I have installed the extension pack
+</I>&gt;<i> several times, but it isn't recognized.The Windows guest runs happily but
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't make the two USB devices available as it should. The Ubuntu guest
+</I>&gt;<i> crashes with a message that it was last closed down with USB 2.0 enabled and I
+</I>&gt;<i> need to install the extension pack -- or disable USB 2.0 in its config somehow.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did have the config file that Dave mentioned, but now I can't find the
+</I>&gt;<i> reference.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ready to give up.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug.
+</I>Did you try to add your user into usb group?
+
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+&gt;<i> We have but one list which is aimed at the general
+</I>&gt;<i> public: this list here. It's purpose is general discussion about
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia. There's no word about support in the description.
+</I>&gt;<i> All other lists are open to the public for the sake of transparency,
+</I>&gt;<i> but each of them has a special target group (i18n, marcomm, artwork,
+</I>&gt;<i> sysadmin, packagers, council, etc.).
+</I>
+So, that leaves us with a couple of simple options:
+1) add the words &quot;user support&quot; to the description of this list.
+2) create a &quot;mageia-user&quot; ml aimed at user support.
+3) leave it as it is and tell people who come to this list with user
+support questions to go to the forum.
+
+The third option is really not what I am looking forward to see on this list.
+
+How do we ask for option 1 or 2, by opening a bug feature request or what?
+
+HB
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+&gt;<i> On 6 June 2011 11:35, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We have but one list which is aimed at the general
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> public: this list here. It's purpose is general discussion about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia. There's no word about support in the description.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> All other lists are open to the public for the sake of transparency,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but each of them has a special target group (i18n, marcomm, artwork,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sysadmin, packagers, council, etc.).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, that leaves us with a couple of simple options:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) add the words &quot;user support&quot; to the description of this list.
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) create a &quot;mageia-user&quot; ml aimed at user support.
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) leave it as it is and tell people who come to this list with user
+</I>&gt;<i> support questions to go to the forum.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The third option is really not what I am looking forward to see on this list.
+</I>
+Agreed. I think this will come automatically with time. There may be
+the occasional question but in the long run I do not expect this list
+overwhelmed with user support questions. That's why I vote for &quot;not
+necessary&quot; in the question about an extra support list.
+
+In short: we should do nothing. :)
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> The host Virtual box/extension pack, and the guest additions must all
+</I>&gt;<i> match version numbers.
+</I>
+ Do you mean *exactly* match (e.g. 4.0.8 but not 4.0.6), or any 4.*?
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+discussion. I have been on the Mandriva user list for years, and have also
+used forums (fora ?) for more specialized queries on OpenOffice and others,
+where no ML was available.
+
+The huge difference to me between the two approaches is this: From a list I get
+emails every day, glance at them all and delete most of them immediately,
+store some of them for future reference, and try to reply to those I feel I
+can help with. The forum I only visit when I have a problem, and post a
+question, but the rest of the time I do not log in, so I do not get to see
+other people's problems, and do not get the opportunity to help.
+
+I can hear the howls of contempt, that I leech the forum but do not contribute
+etc. but life is too short, and forum pages download too slow, for me to log
+in there daily to see what is happening, just in case I see something
+interesting or I can help others there.
+
+We could have both a mailing list and a forum, separate, but this would cause
+a multiplication (and waste) of efforts, and loose the cross-pollination
+between the ML community and the Forum community.
+
+So, to my mind, the best option would be to have all messages appearing on
+both a forum for those who prefer that format, and a mailing list for those
+whose preference goes that way, thus giving all what they like/need/want
+without waste or loss to either group.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron, on the banks of the Paraguay River.
+--
+ I always have a quotation for everything;
+ it saves original thinking.
+ -- Lord Peter Wimsey
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
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+<PRE>On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:41:09 +0300, Ahmad Samir wrote:
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+&gt;<i> (The $1000 question, what is any distro shipping only python 2.7 gonna
+</I>&gt;<i> do about this mismatch? Nothing actually, since they have no control
+</I>&gt;<i> on packages built by upstream).
+</I>
+ So the answer to my question (&quot;What is Mageia going to do about this
+mismatch?&quot;) is: &quot;Nothing&quot;?
+--
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+&gt;<i> 2011/6/6 Hugo Berus &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hugo.berus at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 6 June 2011 11:35, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We have but one list which is aimed at the general
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> public: this list here. It's purpose is general discussion about
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia. There's no word about support in the description.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> All other lists are open to the public for the sake of transparency,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but each of them has a special target group (i18n, marcomm, artwork,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sysadmin, packagers, council, etc.).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, that leaves us with a couple of simple options:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1) add the words &quot;user support&quot; to the description of this list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2) create a &quot;mageia-user&quot; ml aimed at user support.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3) leave it as it is and tell people who come to this list with user
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> support questions to go to the forum.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The third option is really not what I am looking forward to see on this list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Agreed. I think this will come automatically with time. There may be
+</I>&gt;<i> the occasional question but in the long run I do not expect this list
+</I>&gt;<i> overwhelmed with user support questions. That's why I vote for &quot;not
+</I>&gt;<i> necessary&quot; in the question about an extra support list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In short: we should do nothing. :)
+</I>
+Ok, but still help people if they would come along instead of forcing
+them to go a forum.
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:30:05 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The host Virtual box/extension pack, and the guest additions must all
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> match version numbers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you mean *exactly* match (e.g. 4.0.8 but not 4.0.6), or any 4.*?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+If you install virtualbox 4.0.6 from mageia repos, you must install the
+matching 4.0.6 extension pack.
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:41:09 +0300, Ahmad Samir wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (The $1000 question, what is any distro shipping only python 2.7 gonna
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> do about this mismatch? Nothing actually, since they have no control
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on packages built by upstream).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So the answer to my question (&quot;What is Mageia going to do about this
+</I>&gt;<i> mismatch?&quot;) is: &quot;Nothing&quot;?
+</I>
+Well,
+use mageia provided packages, if they dont work, file a bug.
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> 2011/6/6 Hugo Berus&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hugo.berus at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 6 June 2011 11:35, Wolfgang Bornath&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We have but one list which is aimed at the general
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> public: this list here. It's purpose is general discussion about
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia. There's no word about support in the description.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> All other lists are open to the public for the sake of transparency,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but each of them has a special target group (i18n, marcomm, artwork,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sysadmin, packagers, council, etc.).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, that leaves us with a couple of simple options:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1) add the words &quot;user support&quot; to the description of this list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2) create a &quot;mageia-user&quot; ml aimed at user support.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3) leave it as it is and tell people who come to this list with user
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> support questions to go to the forum.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The third option is really not what I am looking forward to see on this list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Agreed. I think this will come automatically with time. There may be
+</I>&gt;<i> the occasional question but in the long run I do not expect this list
+</I>&gt;<i> overwhelmed with user support questions. That's why I vote for &quot;not
+</I>&gt;<i> necessary&quot; in the question about an extra support list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In short: we should do nothing. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+or 1.
+
+And if people ask for help here, give it.
+
+and then _if_ the traffic grows enough to support creation of a separate
+list, then go for 2.
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> So, to my mind, the best option would be to have all messages appearing on
+</I>&gt;<i> both a forum for those who prefer that format, and a mailing list for those
+</I>&gt;<i> whose preference goes that way, thus giving all what they like/need/want
+</I>&gt;<i> without waste or loss to either group.
+</I>
+That was also my idea which I tried to discuss on the list[1], but
+perhaps I did not make myself clear enough.
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+&gt;<i> On 6 June 2011 12:45, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/6/6 Hugo Berus &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hugo.berus at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 6 June 2011 11:35, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We have but one list which is aimed at the general
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> public: this list here. It's purpose is general discussion about
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia. There's no word about support in the description.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> All other lists are open to the public for the sake of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> transparency,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but each of them has a special target group (i18n, marcomm,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> artwork,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sysadmin, packagers, council, etc.).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So, that leaves us with a couple of simple options:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1) add the words &quot;user support&quot; to the description of this list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2) create a &quot;mageia-user&quot; ml aimed at user support.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3) leave it as it is and tell people who come to this list with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> user
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> support questions to go to the forum.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The third option is really not what I am looking forward to see on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Agreed. I think this will come automatically with time. There may be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the occasional question but in the long run I do not expect this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> overwhelmed with user support questions. That's why I vote for &quot;not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> necessary&quot; in the question about an extra support list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In short: we should do nothing. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, but still help people if they would come along instead of forcing
+</I>&gt;<i> them to go a forum.
+</I>
+ Just a quick tip : forums have RSS enabled so that you can setup the
+ rss client with thunderbird or whatever your mail client is to follow
+ discussions exactly the same way you'd do for a mailing list (iow
+ without having to load huge forum pages)
+
+ And you can even subscribe to only sub-parts (just basic support, or
+ just cauldron, or community, or news... or just a specific topic) or sub
+ categories (just new topics)...
+
+ :)
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+&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 6.6.2011 13:45:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/6/6 Hugo Berus&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hugo.berus at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So, that leaves us with a couple of simple options:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1) add the words &quot;user support&quot; to the description of this list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2) create a &quot;mageia-user&quot; ml aimed at user support.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3) leave it as it is and tell people who come to this list with user
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> support questions to go to the forum.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The third option is really not what I am looking forward to see on this list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> or 1.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And if people ask for help here, give it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and then _if_ the traffic grows enough to support creation of a separate list, then go for 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>+1
+
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+
+When i try to install Mageia 64 bits form nfs server,
+i get the following errors :
+unable to access medium &quot;Core 32bits Release&quot;
+after clicking &quot;ok&quot; :
+Problem reading synthesis file of medium &quot;Core 32 bits Release&quot;
+after clicking &quot;ok&quot; :
+Problem reading synthesis file of medium &quot;Core 32 bits Updates&quot;
+
+After investigation, it seems, that the installer make a link from /tmp/media/x86_64 to /tmp/image
+So media.cfg is defined with absolute paths, and it can't find /tmp/i586.
+
+ps: when i try to install from the &quot;boot&quot; image cd with option nfs, i get the same errors.
+
+Thanks
+Daniel Tartavel
+Animateur Dipl&#244;m&#233; en Technologies de l'Information et de la Communication.
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+&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 6.6.2011 13:45:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2011/6/6 Hugo Berus&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hugo.berus at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On 6 June 2011 11:35, Wolfgang Bornath&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; We have but one list which is aimed at the general
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; public: this list here. It's purpose is general discussion about
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Mageia. There's no word about support in the description.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; All other lists are open to the public for the sake of transparency,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; but each of them has a special target group (i18n, marcomm, artwork,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; sysadmin, packagers, council, etc.).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; So, that leaves us with a couple of simple options:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 1) add the words &quot;user support&quot; to the description of this list.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2) create a &quot;mageia-user&quot; ml aimed at user support.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 3) leave it as it is and tell people who come to this list with user
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; support questions to go to the forum.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The third option is really not what I am looking forward to see on this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; list.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Agreed. I think this will come automatically with time. There may be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the occasional question but in the long run I do not expect this list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; overwhelmed with user support questions. That's why I vote for &quot;not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; necessary&quot; in the question about an extra support list.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In short: we should do nothing. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> or 1.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And if people ask for help here, give it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and then _if_ the traffic grows enough to support creation of a separate
+</I>&gt;<i> list, then go for 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>+1
+Tony.
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+On 06/06/2011 07:19 AM, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:
+&gt;<i> There is one point that has not been made, but is to my mind important in this
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion. I have been on the Mandriva user list for years, and have also
+</I>&gt;<i> used forums (fora ?) for more specialized queries on OpenOffice and others,
+</I>&gt;<i> where no ML was available.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The huge difference to me between the two approaches is this: From a list I get
+</I>&gt;<i> emails every day, glance at them all and delete most of them immediately,
+</I>&gt;<i> store some of them for future reference, and try to reply to those I feel I
+</I>&gt;<i> can help with. The forum I only visit when I have a problem, and post a
+</I>&gt;<i> question, but the rest of the time I do not log in, so I do not get to see
+</I>&gt;<i> other people's problems, and do not get the opportunity to help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ron, on the banks of the Paraguay River.
+</I>
+As a user I do pretty much the same. Early on I had mentioned my
+experience with the forum and the list on getting a serious problem
+quickly resolved. My problem was on the forum for over 24 hrs. without
+an answer. When I asked on the list I had an answer in 20 min. I think
+the question should be asked of those with the knowledge to answer the
+questions. With a forum and a list the experts are being asked to devote
+valuable time to both. The forum is also fragmented and takes more time
+to go thru each section. I started with ML in 2002. I found the expert
+list to be extremely useful.
+
+Essentially, what do the experts want? Those that have the knowledge to
+answer the questions. It is their time we are asking them to spend on
+the users questions.
+
+Gary
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+&quot;Renaud (Ron) Olgiati&quot;
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, to my mind, the best option would be to have all messages appearing on
+</I>&gt;<i> both a forum for those who prefer that format, and a mailing list for those
+</I>&gt;<i> whose preference goes that way, thus giving all what they like/need/want
+</I>&gt;<i> without waste or loss to either group.
+</I>
+Or just use gmane, which offers a Web interface as well as a NNTP
+gateway:
+<A HREF="http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.user/">http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.user/</A>
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+&gt;<i> If you install virtualbox 4.0.6 from mageia repos, you must install the
+</I>&gt;<i> matching 4.0.6 extension pack.
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+ Thank you for the clarification, Thomas!
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+<PRE>Le 03/06/2011 16:18, Mandr'Aix a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 01/06/2011 20:24, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi all
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Finally release is out and in time!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> First of all thanks all for the hard work during these 8 months. I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> guess Mageia community (packagers, admins, translators, testers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> artwork) can be proud of this final release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Still some improvments are needed in different part of the project but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> at leat Mageia distribution is out and ready for final users.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Some l,inks for more information
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/06/01/mageia-1/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/06/01/mageia-1/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/downloads/">http://mageia.org/en/downloads/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/1/notes/">http://mageia.org/en/1/notes/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Enjoy this release and see you for Mageia 2 :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bonjour,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Comment devenir 'Early seeder' pour votre distribution ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bonne journ&#233;e,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yves Specht
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Bonjour Yves,
+
+Nous n'avons pas ce concept dans Mageia. Il suffit donc de choisir de
+t&#233;l&#233;charger via bitorrent (<A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/downloads/">http://mageia.org/en/downloads/</A>
+) et de laisser ensuite ton client ouvert.
+
+Cordialement
+Yann / Youp3
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 6.6.2011 13:45:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/6/6 Hugo Berus&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hugo.berus at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 6 June 2011 11:35, Wolfgang Bornath&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We have but one list which is aimed at the general
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> public: this list here. It's purpose is general discussion about
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia. There's no word about support in the description.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> All other lists are open to the public for the sake of transparency,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but each of them has a special target group (i18n, marcomm, artwork,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sysadmin, packagers, council, etc.).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So, that leaves us with a couple of simple options:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1) add the words &quot;user support&quot; to the description of this list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2) create a &quot;mageia-user&quot; ml aimed at user support.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3) leave it as it is and tell people who come to this list with user
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> support questions to go to the forum.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The third option is really not what I am looking forward to see on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Agreed. I think this will come automatically with time. There may be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the occasional question but in the long run I do not expect this list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> overwhelmed with user support questions. That's why I vote for &quot;not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> necessary&quot; in the question about an extra support list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In short: we should do nothing. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> or 1.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And if people ask for help here, give it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and then _if_ the traffic grows enough to support creation of a separate
+</I>&gt;<i> list, then go for 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
++100
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> or 1.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And if people ask for help here, give it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and then _if_ the traffic grows enough to support creation of a separate
+</I>&gt;<i> list, then go for 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
++1
+
+Cheers
+
+Marc
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia salutation night in Tallinn
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Saturday, June 4th, almost dozen people were celebrating the very
+</I>&gt;<i> first release of Mageia in Tallinn, Estonia. Cosy cafe Mosaiik
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://www.mosaiikcafe.ee/">http://www.mosaiikcafe.ee/</A>&gt;provided us with big screen for
+</I>&gt;<i> demonstrations and some food and a great cream cake specially made for
+</I>&gt;<i> this (see the picture here
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://mageia.planet.ee/2011/06/mageia-avapeol/">http://mageia.planet.ee/2011/06/mageia-avapeol/</A>&gt;).
+</I>&gt;<i> As planned, most important part of the meeting was install fest. That
+</I>&gt;<i> was total sucess; we did update from Mandriva 2010.0, did install from
+</I>&gt;<i> Live CD and did clean install, all without problem. Alright, there were
+</I>&gt;<i> some problems but nothing to do with Mageia - Wi-Fi network we used was
+</I>&gt;<i> quite unstable causing minor troubles.
+</I>&gt;<i> Most people attending were profound Mandriva and Mageia users but there
+</I>&gt;<i> were some knowing both of them just by name (or, in case of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva/Mandrake, by distant memory). They were positively surprised
+</I>&gt;<i> the infant distribution was so perfect.
+</I>&gt;<i> We had planned also to create Estonian Mageia Users Group but, though
+</I>&gt;<i> there was some talk about it, it didn&#8217;t happen yet. Maybe sometimes
+</I>&gt;<i> later... We all hope Mageia would win more followers in Estonia as it&#8217;s
+</I>&gt;<i> profoundly localized and even provides the package task-esteid which is
+</I>&gt;<i> just essential in Estonia due to our &#8220;omnipotential&#8221; and almost
+</I>&gt;<i> ubiquitous electronic ID card.
+</I>&gt;<i> You may see a group photo
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://mageia.planet.ee/2011/06/mageia-avapeol/">http://mageia.planet.ee/2011/06/mageia-avapeol/</A>&gt;in Estonian website
+</I>&gt;<i> specially dedicated to Mageia (as the site is all Estonian, you may need
+</I>&gt;<i> awfully clumsy but still understandable Google Translate&#8217;s translation
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=et&amp;sl=et&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fmageia.planet.ee%2F2011%2F06%2Fmageia-avapeol%2F">http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=et&amp;sl=et&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fmageia.planet.ee%2F2011%2F06%2Fmageia-avapeol%2F</A>&gt;)
+</I>
+Congrats on the great party! and installfest!
+
+Nice to hear of this. Keep us posted on other activities with your
+Mageia group developments.
+
+Cheers
+
+Marc
+
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When i try to install Mageia 64 bits form nfs server,
+</I>&gt;<i> i get the following errors :
+</I>&gt;<i> unable to access medium &quot;Core 32bits Release&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> after clicking &quot;ok&quot; :
+</I>&gt;<i> Problem reading synthesis file of medium &quot;Core 32 bits Release&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> after clicking &quot;ok&quot; :
+</I>&gt;<i> Problem reading synthesis file of medium &quot;Core 32 bits Updates&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After investigation, it seems, that the installer make a link from /tmp/media/x86_64 &#160;to /tmp/image
+</I>&gt;<i> So media.cfg is defined with absolute paths, and it can't find /tmp/i586.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ps: when i try to install from &#160;the &quot;boot&quot; image cd &#160;with option nfs, i get the same errors.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Please file a bug report.
+
+&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> Daniel Tartavel
+</I>&gt;<i> Animateur Dipl&#244;m&#233; en Technologies de l'Information et de la Communication.
+</I>&gt;<i> Technicien de Maintenance en Informatique
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.librepc.com">http://www.librepc.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> siret : 511 210 858 RCS Lyon
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Je vous serais reconnaissant de ne pas m'envoyer de pi&#232;ces jointes
+</I>&gt;<i> aux formats Word, Excel, PowerPoint, RTF, &#160;fichiers aux formats propri&#233;taires.
+</I>&gt;<i> Utilisez des formats universels et libres tels que texte, html,
+</I>&gt;<i> OpenDocument, TeX, &#224; la limite PDF. Merci.
+</I>&gt;<i> Voir <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.fr.html">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.fr.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+<PRE>On 06/06/2011 03:37 PM, Ahmad Samir wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 6 June 2011 15:24, Daniel Tartavel&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">contact at librepc.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> When i try to install Mageia 64 bits form nfs server,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i get the following errors :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> unable to access medium &quot;Core 32bits Release&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> after clicking &quot;ok&quot; :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Problem reading synthesis file of medium &quot;Core 32 bits Release&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> after clicking &quot;ok&quot; :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Problem reading synthesis file of medium &quot;Core 32 bits Updates&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> After investigation, it seems, that the installer make a link from /tmp/media/x86_64 to /tmp/image
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So media.cfg is defined with absolute paths, and it can't find /tmp/i586.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ps: when i try to install from the &quot;boot&quot; image cd with option nfs, i get the same errors.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please file a bug report.
+</I>There sort of is one: <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=57568">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=57568</A>
+
+and it has something of a history. 64-bit installs via HTTP work, but
+only if you specify the X86_64 directory. 32-bit installs are capable
+of figuring out from the top-level cooker/cauldron directory and the
+architecture which subdirector(ies) they should be using.
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+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004561.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004562.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004563.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004557.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004559.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004573.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004555.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Berus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004560.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Berus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004564.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list
+</A><A NAME="4564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Berus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004548.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="4548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004552.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004556.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004574.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] First stable of Mageia is out!
+</A><A NAME="4574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Yann Ciret
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004579.html">[Mageia-discuss] nfs Installation of Mageia 64bits
+</A><A NAME="4579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004541.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004545.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004546.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="4546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004540.html">[Mageia-discuss] FYI: Mageia 1 celebration in Estonia
+</A><A NAME="4540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004551.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004553.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004554.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004566.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004547.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="4547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004565.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004569.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list
+</A><A NAME="4569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gary Montalbine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004558.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list
+</A><A NAME="4558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004576.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004577.html">[Mageia-discuss] FYI: Mageia 1 celebration in Estonia
+</A><A NAME="4577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004570.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list
+</A><A NAME="4570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004550.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004578.html">[Mageia-discuss] nfs Installation of Mageia 64bits
+</A><A NAME="4578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004568.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anthony Irven Scott
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004567.html">[Mageia-discuss] nfs Installation of Mageia 64bits
+</A><A NAME="4567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Tartavel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004542.html">[Mageia-discuss] Interactive firewall
+</A><A NAME="4542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jim Whitby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004543.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004544.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250
+</A><A NAME="4544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004549.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004575.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Jun 6 23:01:47 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 6 23:01:55 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <hr>
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+ <a name="start"></A>
+ <h1>6 June 2011 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jun 6 00:05:33 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jun 6 23:01:47 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 38<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004540.html">[Mageia-discuss] FYI: Mageia 1 celebration in Estonia
+</A><A NAME="4540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004541.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004542.html">[Mageia-discuss] Interactive firewall
+</A><A NAME="4542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jim Whitby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004543.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004544.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250
+</A><A NAME="4544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004545.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004546.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="4546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004547.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="4547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004548.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="4548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004549.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004550.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004551.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004552.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004553.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004554.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004555.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Berus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004556.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004557.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004559.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004558.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list
+</A><A NAME="4558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004560.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Berus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004561.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004562.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004563.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004564.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list
+</A><A NAME="4564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Berus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004565.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004566.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004568.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anthony Irven Scott
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004567.html">[Mageia-discuss] nfs Installation of Mageia 64bits
+</A><A NAME="4567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Tartavel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004569.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list
+</A><A NAME="4569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gary Montalbine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004570.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list
+</A><A NAME="4570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004573.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004575.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004574.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] First stable of Mageia is out!
+</A><A NAME="4574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Yann Ciret
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004576.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004577.html">[Mageia-discuss] FYI: Mageia 1 celebration in Estonia
+</A><A NAME="4577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004578.html">[Mageia-discuss] nfs Installation of Mageia 64bits
+</A><A NAME="4578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004579.html">[Mageia-discuss] nfs Installation of Mageia 64bits
+</A><A NAME="4579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Jun 6 23:01:47 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 6 23:01:55 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
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+ <HEAD>
+ <title>The Mageia-discuss 6 June 2011 Archive by subject</title>
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+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <a name="start"></A>
+ <h1>6 June 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jun 6 00:05:33 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jun 6 23:01:47 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 38<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004574.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] First stable of Mageia is out!
+</A><A NAME="4574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Yann Ciret
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004558.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list
+</A><A NAME="4558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004564.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list
+</A><A NAME="4564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Berus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004569.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list
+</A><A NAME="4569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gary Montalbine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004570.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list
+</A><A NAME="4570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004540.html">[Mageia-discuss] FYI: Mageia 1 celebration in Estonia
+</A><A NAME="4540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004577.html">[Mageia-discuss] FYI: Mageia 1 celebration in Estonia
+</A><A NAME="4577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004546.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="4546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004547.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="4547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004548.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="4548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004544.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250
+</A><A NAME="4544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004542.html">[Mageia-discuss] Interactive firewall
+</A><A NAME="4542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jim Whitby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004567.html">[Mageia-discuss] nfs Installation of Mageia 64bits
+</A><A NAME="4567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Tartavel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004578.html">[Mageia-discuss] nfs Installation of Mageia 64bits
+</A><A NAME="4578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004579.html">[Mageia-discuss] nfs Installation of Mageia 64bits
+</A><A NAME="4579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004541.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004551.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004553.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004554.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004557.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004559.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004561.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004562.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004573.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004543.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004545.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004549.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004550.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004552.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004555.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Berus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004556.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004560.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Berus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004563.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004565.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004566.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004568.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anthony Irven Scott
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004575.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004576.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Jun 6 23:01:47 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 6 23:01:55 CEST 2011</i>
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+ <h1>6 June 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jun 6 00:05:33 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jun 6 23:01:47 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 38<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01307311533- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004540.html">[Mageia-discuss] FYI: Mageia 1 celebration in Estonia
+</A><A NAME="4540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01307311533-01307385992- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004577.html">[Mageia-discuss] FYI: Mageia 1 celebration in Estonia
+</A><A NAME="4577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01307320205- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004541.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01307320205-01307358995- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004557.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01307320205-01307358995-01307360826- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004561.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01307320205-01307358995-01307360826-01307376718- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004573.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01307321644- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004542.html">[Mageia-discuss] Interactive firewall
+</A><A NAME="4542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jim Whitby
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01307342212- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004543.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01307342212-01307349445- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004545.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01307342212-01307349445-01307351420- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004549.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01307342212-01307349445-01307351420-01307352348- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004550.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01307342212-01307349445-01307351420-01307352348-01307352950- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004552.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01307342212-01307349445-01307351420-01307352348-01307352950-01307356482- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004555.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Berus
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01307342212-01307349445-01307351420-01307352348-01307352950-01307356482-01307357148- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004556.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01307342212-01307349445-01307351420-01307352348-01307352950-01307356482-01307357148-01307360568- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004560.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Berus
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01307342212-01307349445-01307351420-01307352348-01307352950-01307356482-01307357148-01307360568-01307361479- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004565.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01307342212-01307349445-01307351420-01307352348-01307352950-01307356482-01307357148-01307361057- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004563.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01307342212-01307349445-01307351420-01307352348-01307352950-01307356482-01307357148-01307361057-01307361891- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004566.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01307342212-01307349445-01307351420-01307352348-01307352950-01307356482-01307357148-01307361057-01307366561- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004568.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anthony Irven Scott
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01307342212-01307349445-01307351420-01307352348-01307352950-01307356482-01307357148-01307361057-01307380512- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004575.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01307342212-01307349445-01307351420-01307352348-01307352950-01307356482-01307357148-01307361057-01307385733- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004576.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01307342391- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004544.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250
+</A><A NAME="4544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01307349688- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004546.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="4546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01307349688-01307350135- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004547.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="4547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01307349688-01307350300- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004548.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="4548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01307352409- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004551.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01307355034- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004553.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01307355034-01307355447- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004554.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01307359142- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004559.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01307359142-01307360902- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004562.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01307359156- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004558.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list
+</A><A NAME="4558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01307359156-01307361451- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004564.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list
+</A><A NAME="4564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Berus
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01307359156-01307367439- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004569.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list
+</A><A NAME="4569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gary Montalbine
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01307359156-01307374236- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004570.html">[Mageia-discuss] Forum or mailing list
+</A><A NAME="4570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01307366665- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004567.html">[Mageia-discuss] nfs Installation of Mageia 64bits
+</A><A NAME="4567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Tartavel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01307366665-01307389038- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004578.html">[Mageia-discuss] nfs Installation of Mageia 64bits
+</A><A NAME="4578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01307366665-01307389038-01307394107- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004579.html">[Mageia-discuss] nfs Installation of Mageia 64bits
+</A><A NAME="4579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01307380559- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004574.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-announce] First stable of Mageia is out!
+</A><A NAME="4574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Yann Ciret
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Jun 6 23:01:47 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 6 23:01:55 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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