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+
+Due to library splitted in recent pcre, the whole basesystem is not
+installable due to conflicts with older libs before rebuilding.
+
+Could someboy pushing pcre-8.32-2 into cauldron? I've removed a binary
+program temporarily so that conflicting libs won't raise for a little
+time, in order to rebuild all the packages.
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hello
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Due to library splitted in recent pcre, the whole basesystem is not
+</I>&gt;<i> installable due to conflicts with older libs before rebuilding.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could someboy pushing pcre-8.32-2 into cauldron? I've removed a binary
+</I>&gt;<i> program temporarily so that conflicting libs won't raise for a little
+</I>&gt;<i> time, in order to rebuild all the packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yeah, thanks a lot for breaking the bs :/
+
+Especially since this was a known problem and people was trying to
+test and see how to best avoid it, but you just went ahead and pushed it :/
+
+I've submitted pcre-8.32-2 to the bs, and uploaded a manually built
+grep so that atleast basesystem should stay installable...
+
+As for the rest of the mess, feel fre to sort it out...
+
+
+I'll check back tomorrow if you (or anyone else) have sorted it out ...
+
+--
+Thomas
+
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 30 november 2012 12:59:25 schreef Anne Wilson:
+&gt;&gt;<i> On 30/11/12 12:26, Frank Griffin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 11/30/2012 07:13 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Before doing all that, can you explain the significance of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> suffixes here?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ls /usr/lib/ | grep powerdevil
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libpowerdevilconfigcommonprivate.so.4@
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libpowerdevilconfigcommonprivate.so.4.10.0*
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libpowerdevilcore.so.0@ libpowerdevilcore.so.0.1.0*
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libpowerdevilui.so.4@ libpowerdevilui.so.4.10.0*
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Library naming conventions use several, actual version, e. g.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 4.10.0, major version, e. g. 4, and a generic name, e. g.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libxxx.so. The last two are usually symlinked to the first.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The major version usually signals an ABI difference or some other
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> major difference, e. g. new function, from the previous version.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The actual version changes whenever any change is made. Developers
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> use the major version if their code is dependent on that major
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> version, but just use the generic name if any version will do.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In this way, the majority of packages using the library just ask
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for libxxx.so, and don't have to be rebuilt or have their makefiles
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> or spec modified when the library changes. A few packages, which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> are dependent on a specific version, ask for libxxx.so.N (or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> higher), and these have to be changed when the major version they
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> require is released. A very very few packages are dependent on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> actual version, and these may have to change more often.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I assume the starred ones are actually in use - what's the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> significance of '@'? I'm not sure I've really understood this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>OK, say libXXX provides functions funcA, funcB, and funcC. The library
+developer releases version 1.0.0, and the package installs
+libXXX.so.1.0.0 and symlinks libXXX.so.1.0, libXXX.so.1.0, and libXXX.so
+to this.
+
+Now, the library developer fixes some minor bugs. They don't involve
+any changes to the binary interface (ABI), e. g. they don't change the
+datatypes of any of the parameters to the three functions, and they
+don't change the number of parameters to any of them. So any
+application that used version 1.0.0 should work with the new version.
+The developer calls this version 1.0.1, and when the libXXX package
+installs, it adds libXXX.so.1.0.1, and changes the libXXX.so.1 and
+libXXX.so symlinks to point to that. Applications which used 1.0.0 by
+asking for libXXX.so or libXXX.so.1 don't see any difference. If an
+application specifically asked for libXXX.so.1.0, it gets the older
+version (provided you didn't unistall it). Same goes for an application
+that specifically asks for libXXX.1.0.0.
+
+Now, suppose the library developer adds funcD to the library, and
+doesn't change the ABI (Application Binary Interface) of A/B/C. He
+calls the new package 1.1.0, and when it installs, it installs
+libXXX.so.1.1.0, adds a libXXX.so.1.1 symlink to it, and changes the
+linXXX.so symlink accordingly. Applications that used 1.0.0 or 1.0.1
+could only use funcA/B/C, and will work exactly as they always did with
+the new version. But a new application that uses funcD won't work with
+the older versions, so its package has to say that it requires 1.1.0 or
+later.
+
+Now the library developer finds a serious day-zero bug in funcA. Maybe
+one of the parameters was originally an int when it should have been a
+time_t, and the library doesn't work with newer system libraries because
+time_t has changed from an int to an int64. This means that the ABI
+changes. Applications compiled to use the older libraries won't work
+with the newer versions. Applications written to use the newer version
+won't work with the older versions.
+
+So the library developer bumps the major version and releases 2.0.0,
+along with an advisory that any applications with dependencies on the
+ABI changes from 1.x.x. -&gt; 2.0.0 must either be modified to use the
+newer ABI (in which case they can continue to use libXXX.so and
+requiring &gt;=libXXX.so.2) or must have their spec file modified to
+require =libXXX.so.1 or &lt;=libXXX.so.1.1.
+
+Any app that just asks for libXXX.so has to be modified to use the new
+funcA ABI whether it uses funcD or not. Any app that uses libXXX.so and
+uses funcD and the original ABI for funcA has to be changed to use
+libXXX.so.1.1 and require &lt;=1.1 or else be changed to use the the new ABI.
+
+As time goes on, either the source code or the makefiles/specfiles for
+old apps have to be changed in one way or the other. But the intent is
+that as many old apps as possible can use libXXX.so until circumstances
+make that impossible. At that point. the makefile/specfile has to
+change in a minor way, if you're willing to have multiple versions of
+libXXX installed. Or, if the app is under active development, the
+developer can choose to update the source to conform to the newer ABI
+and update the makefile/specfile to require at least the version that
+supports that ABI.
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>Le 29/11/12 11:04,Malo nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+&gt;<i> On 27/11/12 23:02, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 26/11/12 17:34,Malo nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry for the wrong title ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 26/11/12 17:30, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Total = 1338
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Today, 1273 remains to be changed. Thanks!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Keep up the good work!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This morning, 1182 are left.
+</I>
+Tonight, only 1103 remain, thanks notably to Olav.
+
+Let's pass under 1000 by tomorrow night!
+
+Cheers,
+--
+Malo
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+&gt;<i> Funda Wang skrev 1.12.2012 01:27:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Due to library splitted in recent pcre, the whole basesystem is not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installable due to conflicts with older libs before rebuilding.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could someboy pushing pcre-8.32-2 into cauldron? I've removed a binary
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> program temporarily so that conflicting libs won't raise for a little
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> time, in order to rebuild all the packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah, thanks a lot for breaking the bs :/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Especially since this was a known problem and people was trying to
+</I>&gt;<i> test and see how to best avoid it, but you just went ahead and pushed it :/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've submitted pcre-8.32-2 to the bs, and uploaded a manually built
+</I>&gt;<i> grep so that atleast basesystem should stay installable...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As for the rest of the mess, feel fre to sort it out...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll check back tomorrow if you (or anyone else) have sorted it out ...
+</I>
+
+And thanks Funda for sorting out the rest :)
+
+--
+Thomas
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+Le 20/11/2012 23:43, Luc Menut a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Following my proposal to fix and unify default paths after UsrMove
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-November/019931.html">http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-November/019931.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> I pushed in cauldron core/updates_testing shadows-utils-4.1.5.1-2 and
+</I>&gt;<i> util-linux-2.22.1-7 using these default paths:
+</I>&gt;<i> PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin for normal user,
+</I>&gt;<i> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin for root.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+If there isn't any objection, I would push these 2 packages in
+core/release, so that we can rebuild and fix some bugs before beta1
+mini-freeze.
+These packages are part of the chroot; can I just rebuild shadows-utils
+&amp; util-linux in core/release, and the chroot will be automagically
+updated with the new packages, or does it need particular action from
+someone with enough power !!
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+Regards,
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+Every other distros name their debug packages as foobar-debuginfo.
+We name them foobar-debug instead.
+
+Due to this, we've to patch various packages (gdb, ...) for that.
+And we've to maintain those patches of course...
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+What do you think about naming them -debuginfo like other distros
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+&gt;&gt;<i> ://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-November/019931.html
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I pushed in cauldron core/updates_testing shadows-utils-4.1.5.1-2 and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> util-linux-2.22.1-7 using these default paths:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin for normal user,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin for root.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If there isn't any objection, I would push these 2 packages in core/release,
+</I>&gt;<i> so that we can rebuild and fix some bugs before beta1 mini-freeze.
+</I>&gt;<i> These packages are part of the chroot; can I just rebuild shadows-utils &amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> util-linux in core/release, and the chroot will be automagically updated
+</I>&gt;<i> with the new packages, or does it need particular action from someone with
+</I>&gt;<i> enough power !!
+</I>
+I would say: Go!
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Due to library splitted in recent pcre, the whole basesystem is not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installable due to conflicts with older libs before rebuilding.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could someboy pushing pcre-8.32-2 into cauldron? I've removed a binary
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> program temporarily so that conflicting libs won't raise for a little
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> time, in order to rebuild all the packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah, thanks a lot for breaking the bs :/
+</I>
+This happens.
+Only freezing distro and not make more work can prevent not breaking anything...
+
+&gt;<i> Especially since this was a known problem and people was trying to
+</I>&gt;<i> test and see how to best avoid it, but you just went ahead and pushed it :/
+</I>
+This should have been done on public ml.
+This way this wouldn't have happened.
+
+Same as for not announcing freeze before alpha :-)
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+&gt;<i> On 1 December 2012 03:02, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Due to library splitted in recent pcre, the whole basesystem is not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installable due to conflicts with older libs before rebuilding.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Could someboy pushing pcre-8.32-2 into cauldron? I've removed a binary
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> program temporarily so that conflicting libs won't raise for a little
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> time, in order to rebuild all the packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yeah, thanks a lot for breaking the bs :/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This happens.
+</I>&gt;<i> Only freezing distro and not make more work can prevent not breaking anything...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yep. but atleast packages affecting basesystem should be _tested_
+_before_ pushing it to core/release through bs.
+
+either through local tests or using core/updates_testing...
+
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Especially since this was a known problem and people was trying to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> test and see how to best avoid it, but you just went ahead and pushed it :/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This should have been done on public ml.
+</I>&gt;<i> This way this wouldn't have happened.
+</I>
+That is true, yes...
+it was only discussed on irc, so thats atleast partly my fault :/
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Same as for not announcing freeze before alpha :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+:<i>)
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+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Every other distros name their debug packages as foobar-debuginfo.
+</I>&gt;<i> We name them foobar-debug instead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Due to this, we've to patch various packages (gdb, ...) for that.
+</I>&gt;<i> And we've to maintain those patches of course...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think about naming them -debuginfo like other distros
+</I>&gt;<i> do and drop those patches?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See you
+</I>
+i don't see any pb with this change and this will help removing patches, so i
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+&gt;<i> Le samedi 1 d&#233;cembre 2012 13:41:51 Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Every other distros name their debug packages as foobar-debuginfo.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We name them foobar-debug instead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Due to this, we've to patch various packages (gdb, ...) for that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And we've to maintain those patches of course...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What do you think about naming them -debuginfo like other distros
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> do and drop those patches?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See you
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i don't see any pb with this change and this will help removing patches, so i
+</I>&gt;<i> am all for it :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I dont see any problem with it either, but before you do we need to
+update youri so it knows to put -debuginfo packages in debug media too
+so we dont flood core media...
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+<PRE>01.12.2012 14:41, Thierry Vignaud kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Every other distros name their debug packages as foobar-debuginfo.
+</I>&gt;<i> We name them foobar-debug instead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Due to this, we've to patch various packages (gdb, ...) for that.
+</I>&gt;<i> And we've to maintain those patches of course...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think about naming them -debuginfo like other distros
+</I>&gt;<i> do and drop those patches?
+</I>
+Seems reasonable, but looks like the transition period might cause
+problems, since you don't know if you need foo-debug or foo-debuginfo.
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+<PRE>Anssi Hannula skrev 1.12.2012 16:07:
+&gt;<i> 01.12.2012 14:41, Thierry Vignaud kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Every other distros name their debug packages as foobar-debuginfo.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We name them foobar-debug instead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Due to this, we've to patch various packages (gdb, ...) for that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And we've to maintain those patches of course...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What do you think about naming them -debuginfo like other distros
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> do and drop those patches?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Seems reasonable, but looks like the transition period might cause
+</I>&gt;<i> problems, since you don't know if you need foo-debug or foo-debuginfo.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Well, if we do it right before we do the full rebuild, the transition
+period will be somewhat short...
+
+not to mention we have &quot;minidebuginfo&quot; already in place so even
+without -debug packages there should be somewhat helpful backtraces...
+
+
+But I think we'll postpone the full rebuild after beta1 so I can
+get a few updates to gcc &amp; binutils and kernel-3.7 headers + glibc
+rebuild as &quot;base&quot; for the rebuild...
+
+pterjan is already doing pre-rebuild tests so people can focus on
+fixing those issues before we start pushing the rebuild to the
+mirrors...
+
+--
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+python-tagpy build fail under cauldron
+if someone can have a look it would be nice, my boost knowledge is too
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+the -dev ml about packages that are WIP and/or known to break bs...
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+I'm in the process of updating ppl from 0.11.2 to 1.0
+(and cloog-ppl to whatever matching version is)
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+Now, if this package hits the buildsystem &amp; mirrors before it's
+properly tested it _will_ break atleast gcc, so all builds will
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+Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> 01.12.2012 14:41, Thierry Vignaud kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Every other distros name their debug packages as foobar-debuginfo.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We name them foobar-debug instead.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Due to this, we've to patch various packages (gdb, ...) for that.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And we've to maintain those patches of course...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What do you think about naming them -debuginfo like other distros
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; do and drop those patches?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Seems reasonable, but looks like the transition period might cause
+</I>&gt;<i> problems, since you don't know if you need foo-debug or foo-debuginfo.
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+</I>
+Maybe it can be coordinated with the planned mass-rebuild to reduce the
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+&gt;<i> Every other distros name their debug packages as foobar-debuginfo.
+</I>&gt;<i> We name them foobar-debug instead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Due to this, we've to patch various packages (gdb, ...) for that.
+</I>&gt;<i> And we've to maintain those patches of course...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think about naming them -debuginfo like other distros
+</I>&gt;<i> do and drop those patches?
+</I>
+Will all -debuginfo packages get a Provides+Obsoletes on the -debug
+package name? Otherwise we get a lot of orphan packages on users' systems
+plus potential file conflicts between -debug and -debuginfo packages.
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+Le 01/12/2012 19:05, Maurice Batey a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy'
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>A 'GRUB Legacy' option? What do you mean?
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+</I>&gt;<i> Le 01/12/2012 19:05, Maurice Batey a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy'
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> option?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A 'GRUB Legacy' option? What do you mean?
+</I>
+I guess he means that if we switch to Grub2 by default,
+will we still support greb legacy ?
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+ <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B>
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+<PRE>Hi!
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+eboard is upstream dead in nearly 5 years [1] and currently the build is
+broken.
+Fedora has already removed it from sources [2]
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+My proposal is to remove it from Mageia 3 too.
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+Is anybody against?
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+[1] &quot;The latest version is: 1.1.1 (Feb 22nd, 2008)&quot;
+[2] <A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/eboard.git/tree/dead.package">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/eboard.git/tree/dead.package</A>
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+ <B>Thomas Spuhler</B>
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+<PRE>On Saturday, December 01, 2012 03:08:28 PM Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> eboard is upstream dead in nearly 5 years [1] and currently the build is
+</I>&gt;<i> broken.
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora has already removed it from sources [2]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My proposal is to remove it from Mageia 3 too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is anybody against?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] &quot;The latest version is: 1.1.1 (Feb 22nd, 2008)&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> [2] <A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/eboard.git/tree/dead.package">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/eboard.git/tree/dead.package</A>
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+I am OK with the removal
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+Fedora is on version 3.2
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+ <B>Pierre Jarillon</B>
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 2 d&#233;cembre 2012 01:11:44, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Mageia 1 is now EOL.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BS is locked down and updates_testing wiped.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Blog post pushed and mail sent to updates-announce ML.
+</I>
+I have several systems installed with Mageia 1 and I wish to move them to
+Mageia 3 (I make always a new install). During 4 or 5 month, I agree to have
+no improvements or no bug corrections but security updates are useful.
+
+I dont' want to replace Mga1 with Mga2 and 4 month later play again for Mga2
+to Mga3. I have also other machines with Mga2 and with Mandriva 2010.2.
+I dont need a LTS but a Short Term Support is a bad thing and I don't want to
+waste my time.
+
+Is it possible to have security updates until a month after Mga3 is out?
+--
+Pierre Jarillon - <A HREF="http://pjarillon.free.fr/">http://pjarillon.free.fr/</A>
+Vice-pr&#233;sident de l'ABUL : <A HREF="http://abul.org">http://abul.org</A>
+Microsoft est &#224; l'informatique ce que McDonald est &#224; la gastronomie
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+We have got two packages:
+udunits (1.x line) and udunits2 (2.x line).
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+The 1.x generation is deprecated for a long time and superseded by 2.x [1]
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+I am proposing to obsolete 1.x line and then rename udunits2 to udunits.
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+At the moment Debian, Arch, Ubuntu switched to 2.x, Fedora and RHEL are
+still maintaining both lines [2].
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+As far as I know, nothing is requiring udunits1 in Mga.
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+What do you think?
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+[1] <A HREF="http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/downloads/udunits/index.jsp">http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/downloads/udunits/index.jsp</A>
+[2] <A HREF="http://pkgs.org/search/?keyword=udunits">http://pkgs.org/search/?keyword=udunits</A>
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+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 2 d&#233;cembre 2012 01:11:44, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 1 is now EOL.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> BS is locked down and updates_testing wiped.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Blog post pushed and mail sent to updates-announce ML.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have several systems installed with Mageia 1 and I wish to move them to
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 3 (I make always a new install). During 4 or 5 month, I agree to have
+</I>&gt;<i> no improvements or no bug corrections but security updates are useful.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I dont' want to replace Mga1 with Mga2 and 4 month later play again for Mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> to Mga3. I have also other machines with Mga2 and with Mandriva 2010.2.
+</I>&gt;<i> I dont need a LTS but a Short Term Support is a bad thing and I don't want to
+</I>&gt;<i> waste my time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it possible to have security updates until a month after Mga3 is out?
+</I>
+My feeling on this is that we have an 18 month support cycle *because* we have a 9 month development cycle, so we support for the length of
+two release cycles, so that if one release causes major problems, or you don't have time to upgrade every single time, you can skip one
+release and still stay supported. This works fine unless a release gets delayed like Mageia 2 did (which is fine) and probably most will a
+little bit at least. I believe the support should continue to run until release+2 is out.
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+The problem is there isn't a company with paid employees providing the support, it's a community distro with all volunteers, so we can only
+continue to provide support if there are people willing and able to do the work.
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+As you may know, I do a lot of the packaging work on security updates. I also depend on some other packagers to do some of that work, but as
+time passes, less and less of them have either the time or willingness to continue to work on Mageia 1, so it gets more difficult to continue
+to support everything as time passes. Also, even if we can get updates packaged, we need QA people to test them, and we continue to need
+more help with QA, as it's a very small number of people doing the vast majority of the work. QA is responsible for not only testing updates
+for stable distros, but also testing every single ISO (including alphas, betas, and RCs) we release.
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+So, to make a long story short, extending support for Mageia 1 was discussed by the council, but unfortunately rejected, mostly IINM because
+of the burden on QA. Again, that's not to blame anyone, but QA is a lot of work that's done by few people. So if they're not willing or
+able to continue to support it, unless new people step up to fill that void, we just don't have the ability to continue to provide support.
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+As the person who does a lot of the packaging for security updates, I am willing to continue the work I do on it, especially since I haven't
+had time yet to move my and my family's workstations to Mageia 2, and probably won't until late December, but I don't have a way to
+distribute any new packages. The build system has closed for Mageia 1. SVN should still be open, so I suppose I could check things in there
+and anyone interested could build from it locally? I don't want to host my own repository somewhere.
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+<PRE>I have a few suggestions for improving packaging communications
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+* <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Pending_packages">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Pending_packages</A>
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+where I'll keep updated the status of my packaging, and I'll try to
+forward notices from the mailing list. Having something on the wiki
+makes things a bit more organized. I've changed the links a bit so to
+tell people to look on that page first for important notices.
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+* Mageia-mentors mailing list or backup mentors
+
+It would be good if there was a mageia-mentors mailing list in which
+private e-mail to and from the mentors could be cc'ed to so that all
+of the mentors would have an overview of what conversations would
+happen and there would be a &quot;backup&quot; in case a mentor goes offline.
+Alternatively, people could get in a the habit of having a backup
+mentor cc'ed that can respond if something comes up.
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+It would also be good to change the instruction page with something
+instructions like &quot;if you don't hear back from X in three days, then
+do Y&quot;
+
+What happened with me was that I had been packaging a large number of
+packages and coordinating things offline with my mentor. I mentioned
+that I was packaging cinnamon and then when I was done (and it was
+just a minor project), I mentioned that I was done. I didn't hear
+back, but that's happened before, and that's not a problem. The
+problem was that when I looked on the dev list for something
+unrelated, I found out that the cinnamon packages had been bounced.
+That wasn't a problem since they had been bounced for very good
+technical reasons, which I've been fixing. Unfortunately, I was
+reading the e-mail out of context so it looked to me like some tiny
+cabal had bounced all my packages for no reason at all, and so I went
+ballistic. The most annoying problem is that no one mentioned it me
+that there was a technical issue with cinnamon.
+
+Part of the issue is since I'm new, I don't know the people, and so I
+can't tell based on limited information if people are being reasonable
+or not. Automatically assuming that people are being reasonable won't
+work, because you'll find a lot of groups on the internet in which
+people aren't reasonable (i.e. there is a reason why people are
+dumping Gnome3 for Cinnamon) and people don't have the time and energy
+to find out what's going on, and there is a lot of
+&quot;pseudo-reasonableness&quot; out there. Working with a lot of volunteer
+groups has made me a little paranoid when someone seems nice.
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+For people with a CS bent, a lot of issues that you run into with
+coordinating people are the same that you run into in coordinating
+CPU/GPU's and doing parallel computing. You can map some of the
+issues that I've run into into the &quot;two generals problem&quot;.
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+ <B>blind Pete</B>
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+&gt;<i> Pierre Jarillon wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 2 d&#233;cembre 2012 01:11:44, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 1 is now EOL.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> BS is locked down and updates_testing wiped.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Blog post pushed and mail sent to updates-announce ML.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have several systems installed with Mageia 1 and I wish to move them to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 3 (I make always a new install). During 4 or 5 month, I agree to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have no improvements or no bug corrections but security updates are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> useful.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I dont' want to replace Mga1 with Mga2 and 4 month later play again for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mga2 to Mga3. I have also other machines with Mga2 and with Mandriva
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2010.2. I dont need a LTS but a Short Term Support is a bad thing and I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> don't want to waste my time.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is it possible to have security updates until a month after Mga3 is out?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My feeling on this is that we have an 18 month support cycle *because* we
+</I>&gt;<i> have a 9 month development cycle, so we support for the length of two
+</I>&gt;<i> release cycles, so that if one release causes major problems, or you don't
+</I>&gt;<i> have time to upgrade every single time, you can skip one
+</I>&gt;<i> release and still stay supported. This works fine unless a release gets
+</I>&gt;<i> delayed like Mageia 2 did (which is fine) and probably most will a
+</I>&gt;<i> little bit at least. I believe the support should continue to run until
+</I>&gt;<i> release+2 is out.
+</I>
+Sounds like a good reason for having a support period of either one
+and a half or two and a half release cycles. Aiming for exactly
+an integer means that there will be a day where updating has to happen.
+Worse when there is a delay the overlap could be negative.
+
+&gt;<i> The problem is there isn't a company with paid employees providing the
+</I>&gt;<i> support, it's a community distro with all volunteers, so we can only
+</I>&gt;<i> continue to provide support if there are people willing and able to do the
+</I>&gt;<i> work.
+</I>
+One and a half release cycles?
+
+Perhaps future realeases could have;
+9 month release cycle,
+12 month &quot;full&quot; support,
+15 months &quot;partial&quot; support?
+
+&gt;<i> As you may know, I do a lot of the packaging work on security updates. I
+</I>&gt;<i> also depend on some other packagers to do some of that work, but as time
+</I>&gt;<i> passes, less and less of them have either the time or willingness to
+</I>&gt;<i> continue to work on Mageia 1, so it gets more difficult to continue
+</I>&gt;<i> to support everything as time passes. Also, even if we can get updates
+</I>&gt;<i> packaged, we need QA people to test them, and we continue to need
+</I>&gt;<i> more help with QA, as it's a very small number of people doing the vast
+</I>&gt;<i> majority of the work. QA is responsible for not only testing updates for
+</I>&gt;<i> stable distros, but also testing every single ISO (including alphas,
+</I>&gt;<i> betas, and RCs) we release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, to make a long story short, extending support for Mageia 1 was
+</I>&gt;<i> discussed by the council, but unfortunately rejected, mostly IINM because
+</I>&gt;<i> of the burden on QA. Again, that's not to blame anyone, but QA is a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> of work that's done by few people. So if they're not willing or able to
+</I>&gt;<i> continue to support it, unless new people step up to fill that void, we
+</I>&gt;<i> just don't have the ability to continue to provide support.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As the person who does a lot of the packaging for security updates, I am
+</I>&gt;<i> willing to continue the work I do on it, especially since I haven't had
+</I>&gt;<i> time yet to move my and my family's workstations to Mageia 2, and probably
+</I>&gt;<i> won't until late December, but I don't have a way to
+</I>&gt;<i> distribute any new packages. The build system has closed for Mageia 1.
+</I>&gt;<i> SVN should still be open, so I suppose I could check things in there
+</I>&gt;<i> and anyone interested could build from it locally? I don't want to host
+</I>&gt;<i> my own repository somewhere.
+</I>
+--
+blind Pete
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+<PRE>I just checked in a fix for this (325101). I don't have the
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+Also, if there are any python related issues let me know. I've been
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+ <B>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil</B>
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 2 d&#233;cembre 2012 17:30:33 Joseph Wang a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I just checked in a fix for this (325101). I don't have the
+</I>&gt;<i> permission to kick off a build, so someone
+</I>&gt;<i> else needs to do that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, if there are any python related issues let me know. I've been
+</I>&gt;<i> working a lot on my local
+</I>&gt;<i> machine on python packages so it is easy for me to work on them right now.
+</I>
+you should see this with your mentor, this is him that is supposed to upload
+for you.
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+On 02/12/12 07:10, Joseph Wang wrote:
+&gt;<i> I have a few suggestions for improving packaging communications
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Pending_packages">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Pending_packages</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> where I'll keep updated the status of my packaging, and I'll try
+</I>&gt;<i> to forward notices from the mailing list. Having something on the
+</I>&gt;<i> wiki makes things a bit more organized. I've changed the links a
+</I>&gt;<i> bit so to tell people to look on that page first for important
+</I>&gt;<i> notices.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * Mageia-mentors mailing list or backup mentors
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It would be good if there was a mageia-mentors mailing list in
+</I>&gt;<i> which private e-mail to and from the mentors could be cc'ed to so
+</I>&gt;<i> that all of the mentors would have an overview of what
+</I>&gt;<i> conversations would happen and there would be a &quot;backup&quot; in case a
+</I>&gt;<i> mentor goes offline. Alternatively, people could get in a the habit
+</I>&gt;<i> of having a backup mentor cc'ed that can respond if something comes
+</I>&gt;<i> up.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It would also be good to change the instruction page with
+</I>&gt;<i> something instructions like &quot;if you don't hear back from X in three
+</I>&gt;<i> days, then do Y&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What happened with me was that I had been packaging a large number
+</I>&gt;<i> of packages and coordinating things offline with my mentor. I
+</I>&gt;<i> mentioned that I was packaging cinnamon and then when I was done
+</I>&gt;<i> (and it was just a minor project), I mentioned that I was done. I
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't hear back, but that's happened before, and that's not a
+</I>&gt;<i> problem. The problem was that when I looked on the dev list for
+</I>&gt;<i> something unrelated, I found out that the cinnamon packages had
+</I>&gt;<i> been bounced. That wasn't a problem since they had been bounced for
+</I>&gt;<i> very good technical reasons, which I've been fixing.
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunately, I was reading the e-mail out of context so it looked
+</I>&gt;<i> to me like some tiny cabal had bounced all my packages for no
+</I>&gt;<i> reason at all, and so I went ballistic. The most annoying problem
+</I>&gt;<i> is that no one mentioned it me that there was a technical issue
+</I>&gt;<i> with cinnamon.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Part of the issue is since I'm new, I don't know the people, and so
+</I>&gt;<i> I can't tell based on limited information if people are being
+</I>&gt;<i> reasonable or not. Automatically assuming that people are being
+</I>&gt;<i> reasonable won't work, because you'll find a lot of groups on the
+</I>&gt;<i> internet in which people aren't reasonable (i.e. there is a reason
+</I>&gt;<i> why people are dumping Gnome3 for Cinnamon) and people don't have
+</I>&gt;<i> the time and energy to find out what's going on, and there is a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> of &quot;pseudo-reasonableness&quot; out there. Working with a lot of
+</I>&gt;<i> volunteer groups has made me a little paranoid when someone seems
+</I>&gt;<i> nice.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For people with a CS bent, a lot of issues that you run into with
+</I>&gt;<i> coordinating people are the same that you run into in coordinating
+</I>&gt;<i> CPU/GPU's and doing parallel computing. You can map some of the
+</I>&gt;<i> issues that I've run into into the &quot;two generals problem&quot;.
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Generals%27_Problem">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Generals%27_Problem</A>
+(It was new to me ;) )
+
+Thanks, Joseph, for your effort to improve things :)
+
+As documenter, I'm glad with the wiki page.
+
+Also as documenter, I'm wondering whether a mailing list would cause
+missing or not completely clear or up-to-date packaging pages in our
+wiki to be made or improved faster.
+
+Even if that wouldn't be the case: having packaging questions and
+answers in the mailing list archive, seems a good thing to me.
+
+As a very incidental packaging trainee, I think if there isn't a
+mailing list and my mentor is, e.g., on holiday without internet
+connection, it would be best to go to #mageia-mentoring and ask for
+assistance there.
+
+Cheers,
+marja
+
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+ <B>Joseph Wang</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Packages for review">joequant at gmail.com
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+ <I>Sun Dec 2 10:37:50 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Can someone check the following package submissions
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+quantlib
+python-pyp2rpm
+leocad
+leocad-data
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+Also, does anyone object if I add the following to task-games?
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+simutrans
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+On 25/10/12 01:42, Funda Wang wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2012/10/24 Anne Nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here somebody you may be able to help to become a Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packager. Can you see with him if it's possible ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Sure, I'm happy with that. &lt;snip&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please update the mentoring page. Thanks.
+</I>
+The mentoring page was never updated.
+
+However, there was another mail in this thread, where someone else
+offered to mentor Joseph.
+
+Maybe no one felt *fully* accepted as Joseph's mentor, and that
+contributed to the communication problems??
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+ <B>Sander Lepik</B>
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+<PRE>02.12.2012 08:46, blind Pete kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> One and a half release cycles?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps future realeases could have;
+</I>&gt;<i> 9 month release cycle,
+</I>&gt;<i> 12 month &quot;full&quot; support,
+</I>&gt;<i> 15 months &quot;partial&quot; support?
+</I>Our releases already have 18 months &quot;full&quot; support. And as David already said, we lack
+enough QA people. QA can't support 2 releases + test 3rd one at the same time. If we want
+Mageia 3 to be good and tested distro then we have to give QA more time to play with it.
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+Sander
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+We have got problems with building ecl and gcl (both Lisp machines).
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+There are packages that depends on it (like Maxima), and this has to be
+fixed before the mass rebuild. It is a BR blocker for other packages.
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+I cannot do it now myself.
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
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+<PRE>Le 02/12/2012 01:11, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Mageia 1 is now EOL.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BS is locked down and updates_testing wiped.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Blog post pushed and mail sent to updates-announce ML.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+Oh thanks so I will close (before this evening) the mga1 bugs as said
+previously.
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Maintenance_of_bug_reports#End_of_life_.28EOL.29_Release">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Maintenance_of_bug_reports#End_of_life_.28EOL.29_Release</A>
+
+And bye Mageia 1, thanks for these 23 months on my laptop.
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+ <I>Sun Dec 2 12:10:01 CET 2012</I>
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+Awant-window-navigator (awn) [1] and awn-extras-applets are near dead.
+Both packages are unbuildable due to old vala dependencies (it needs
+0.14 generation, since we are already using 0.18).
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+Maintaining it currently means becoming a developer.
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+Fedora has already removed it from repositories [2]
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+Is there anyone who want to fix upstream revision? If not, I will
+obsolete it.
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+[1] <A HREF="https://launchpad.net/awn">https://launchpad.net/awn</A>
+[2]
+<A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/avant-window-navigator.git/tree/dead.package">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/avant-window-navigator.git/tree/dead.package</A>
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+Hi,
+last night i realized i cannot use -or at least i believe-
+urpmi &quot;cached&quot; any more.
+I'm trying to update and fix livecd-tools but the above
+problem breaks some livecd-creator functionality...
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+I opened a bug report for that:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8272">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8272</A>
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+In which is clear that urpm::init_cache_dir has been removed
+from urpm.pl:
+Undefined subroutine &amp;urpm::init_cache_dir called at
+/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.16.2/urpm/main_loop.pm line 101, &lt;STDIN&gt;
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+help and manual are showing --download-all --no-clean, so i'd expect
+they work. Any help here?
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+Thanks in advance.
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+ Angelo
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+<PRE>FWIW, I agree wholeheartedly with having a longer support time. Getting
+Mageia 1 right on my laptop was a long and painful process; I feel I've
+only just got it going (OK, it's a year down the line really) and I have
+to go through it all again in a few weeks. I accept it might be much
+easier because the kernel improves at light speed, but it would much
+rather not have to do it for a while!
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+I run Mageia 2 on my desktop and the one and [from my perspective] the
+only thing that is better about it is GIMP 2.8. I miss nothing
+whatsoever other than that. Even if it was two years rather than
+eighteen months it would be great.
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+Just my tuppence worth. I am very, very grateful for the fantastic work
+everyone does on this distribution whatever happens. :~)
+
+On 02/12/12 06:46, blind Pete wrote:
+&gt;<i> David Walser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Pierre Jarillon wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 2 d&#233;cembre 2012 01:11:44, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 1 is now EOL.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> BS is locked down and updates_testing wiped.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Blog post pushed and mail sent to updates-announce ML.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have several systems installed with Mageia 1 and I wish to move them to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 3 (I make always a new install). During 4 or 5 month, I agree to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have no improvements or no bug corrections but security updates are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> useful.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I dont' want to replace Mga1 with Mga2 and 4 month later play again for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mga2 to Mga3. I have also other machines with Mga2 and with Mandriva
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2010.2. I dont need a LTS but a Short Term Support is a bad thing and I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> don't want to waste my time.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is it possible to have security updates until a month after Mga3 is out?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My feeling on this is that we have an 18 month support cycle *because* we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have a 9 month development cycle, so we support for the length of two
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release cycles, so that if one release causes major problems, or you don't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have time to upgrade every single time, you can skip one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release and still stay supported. This works fine unless a release gets
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> delayed like Mageia 2 did (which is fine) and probably most will a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> little bit at least. I believe the support should continue to run until
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release+2 is out.
+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds like a good reason for having a support period of either one
+</I>&gt;<i> and a half or two and a half release cycles. Aiming for exactly
+</I>&gt;<i> an integer means that there will be a day where updating has to happen.
+</I>&gt;<i> Worse when there is a delay the overlap could be negative.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The problem is there isn't a company with paid employees providing the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> support, it's a community distro with all volunteers, so we can only
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> continue to provide support if there are people willing and able to do the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> work.
+</I>&gt;<i> One and a half release cycles?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps future realeases could have;
+</I>&gt;<i> 9 month release cycle,
+</I>&gt;<i> 12 month &quot;full&quot; support,
+</I>&gt;<i> 15 months &quot;partial&quot; support?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As you may know, I do a lot of the packaging work on security updates. I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> also depend on some other packagers to do some of that work, but as time
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> passes, less and less of them have either the time or willingness to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> continue to work on Mageia 1, so it gets more difficult to continue
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to support everything as time passes. Also, even if we can get updates
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packaged, we need QA people to test them, and we continue to need
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> more help with QA, as it's a very small number of people doing the vast
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> majority of the work. QA is responsible for not only testing updates for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> stable distros, but also testing every single ISO (including alphas,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> betas, and RCs) we release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, to make a long story short, extending support for Mageia 1 was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> discussed by the council, but unfortunately rejected, mostly IINM because
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of the burden on QA. Again, that's not to blame anyone, but QA is a lot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of work that's done by few people. So if they're not willing or able to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> continue to support it, unless new people step up to fill that void, we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just don't have the ability to continue to provide support.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As the person who does a lot of the packaging for security updates, I am
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> willing to continue the work I do on it, especially since I haven't had
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> time yet to move my and my family's workstations to Mageia 2, and probably
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> won't until late December, but I don't have a way to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distribute any new packages. The build system has closed for Mageia 1.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> SVN should still be open, so I suppose I could check things in there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and anyone interested could build from it locally? I don't want to host
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> my own repository somewhere.
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+<PRE>Op zondag 2 december 2012 12:28:39 schreef Sander Lepik:
+&gt;<i> 02.12.2012 08:46, blind Pete kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; One and a half release cycles?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Perhaps future realeases could have;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 9 month release cycle,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 12 month &quot;full&quot; support,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 15 months &quot;partial&quot; support?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Our releases already have 18 months &quot;full&quot; support. And as David already
+</I>&gt;<i> said, we lack enough QA people. QA can't support 2 releases + test 3rd one
+</I>&gt;<i> at the same time. If we want Mageia 3 to be good and tested distro then we
+</I>&gt;<i> have to give QA more time to play with it.
+</I>
+perhaps
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; 9 month release cycle,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 12 month &quot;full&quot; support,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 15 months &quot;partial&quot; support?
+</I>
+is a good idea, if there's an LTS version.
+
+on the one end, i like overlap, so i'd like to propose this:
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+release cycle: 9months
+supported release: releasetime(release + 1) + 3 months
+only security support: support-time + 3 months
+
+this means whatever our releasetime becomes (if it's delayed into 10 or even
+11 months we can stick with this.
+
+the same structure could be done with LTS (if we ever have it):
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+LTS release cycle: (3 normal releases)
+LTS support: ( LTS-release - 1) + 6 months
+(in practice: this will mean 3y LTS support, due to delays)
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+==&gt; this would mean all our users would need to go to the next version and not
+skip one.
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+==&gt; this means we can lessen the burden on QA
+
+upgrade support would be from (release - 1) to release
+LTS upgrade support would be from (LTSrelease - 1) to LTSrelease
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+no other upgrade path supported.
+
+Can we agree on this? (even if we don't have LTS now, nor even have to decide
+on it yet)
+
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+steps if we have more QA resources:
+1) having LTS
+2) increasing 1 normal release
+3) increasing release cycle of LTS so as to have a longer supported LTS
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+the big point here, is that overlap is very useful, and until we have enough
+resources, having only overlap on top of 1 release, is good for now.
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+<PRE>On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 21:43:28 +0200, Thomas Backlund wrote:
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+&gt;<i> I guess he means that if we switch to Grub2 by default, will we still
+</I>&gt;<i> support greb legacy ?
+</I>
+ Correct!
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+I.e. when installing 'GRUB2' Mageia-3, will there be an option to use
+GRUB-Legacy instead?
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+The reason I ask is that:
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+ (1) On my desktop I use the excellent GAG bootloader in the MBR, and it cannot
+boot GRUB2 installs. See e.g.:
+ <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/gag/forums/forum/230439/topic/3533186">http://sourceforge.net/projects/gag/forums/forum/230439/topic/3533186</A>
+ <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAG_%28boot_loader%29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAG_%28boot_loader%29</A>
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+ (2) On my netbook, I chainload via a GRUB-legacy Mageia MBR, where the Mageia
+menu.lst picks up all the other installs. (This includes the GRUB2 Ubuntu and
+Mint, whose GRUB2 menu's purport to boot the GRUB-legacy installs but fail to
+do so, hence though I know how to chainload from a GRUB-legacy menu.lst into a
+GRUB2 boot install, I do not know how to boot into a GRUB-legacy install from a
+GRUB2 menu. If you see what I mean...
+
+Those are just some of the reasons why I would like to avoid - or postpone -
+conversion to GRUB2, the need for which I still fail to comprehend.
+
+--
+/\/\aurice
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+Robert Wood &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">robert.wood at apostrophe.co.uk</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> FWIW, I agree wholeheartedly with having a longer support time. Getting
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1 right on my laptop was a long and painful process; I feel I've
+</I>&gt;<i> only just got it going (OK, it's a year down the line really) and I have
+</I>&gt;<i> to go through it all again in a few weeks. I accept it might be much
+</I>&gt;<i> easier because the kernel improves at light speed, but it would much
+</I>&gt;<i> rather not have to do it for a while!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I run Mageia 2 on my desktop and the one and [from my perspective] the
+</I>&gt;<i> only thing that is better about it is GIMP 2.8. I miss nothing
+</I>&gt;<i> whatsoever other than that. Even if it was two years rather than
+</I>&gt;<i> eighteen months it would be great.
+</I>
+As a different data point, I still use Mageia 1 (mainly because I'm
+happy with Gnome 2 and don't want to switch to hell), but I'm ok with
+Mageia 1 being EOL'ed. I think the developers would better spend their
+time concentrating on making a polished, high-quality Mageia 3 (and
+then I can install it and switch to XFCE :-)).
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+Regards
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+Antoine.
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+<PRE>On 02/12/12 09:37, Joseph Wang wrote:
+&gt;<i> Can someone check the following package submissions
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> quantlib
+</I>&gt;<i> python-pyp2rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> leocad
+</I>&gt;<i> leocad-data
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, does anyone object if I add the following to task-games?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> vassal
+</I>&gt;<i> simutrans
+</I>&gt;<i> leocad (once it gets run)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Joseph I notice that some e.g. quantlib (I didn't look at all) of your
+specs are missing proper tabbed (or spaced) indentation.
+example here <A HREF="http://paste.kde.org/618332/">http://paste.kde.org/618332/</A>
+
+quantlib:
+There is a dot ending summary(s)
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+<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+Hi
+Sankore [1] has recently changed the name
+in Open-Sankore.
+Moreover i have a historical mistake i made
+e.g. the version is not 3.1 but &quot;3.1&quot; is part
+of its name, while real version is inside of
+its project (2.0 beta 10 at the moment).
+
+Now i'd like to fix it up, but i need some suggestions
+in how to work.
+Should i change the project to open-sankore and
+obsoleting the old one? (is that enough?)
+Or should i leave it as it is by now and
+add en epoch to remove 3.1?
+
+Any other suggestion?
+
+TIA,
+ Angelo
+
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+[1] <A HREF="https://github.com/Sankore/Sankore-3.1">https://github.com/Sankore/Sankore-3.1</A>
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+ <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B>
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+<PRE>Le 01/12/12 02:30,Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+&gt;<i> Le 29/11/12 11:04,Malo nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 27/11/12 23:02, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 26/11/12 17:34,Malo nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry for the wrong title ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 26/11/12 17:30, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Total = 1338
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Today, 1273 remains to be changed. Thanks!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Keep up the good work!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This morning, 1182 are left.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Tonight, only 1103 remain, thanks notably to Olav.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's pass under 1000 by tomorrow night!
+</I>
+Thanks to the effort of many, the number of remaining packages is now of
+972. Many remain in Video.
+
+Please keep fixing!
+
+Thanks!
+--
+Malo
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+ <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B>
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+<PRE>svn mv over package name, spec name, Name tag, misc directory
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+Add Provides: oldpackage-name and Obsoletes: oldpackage-name
+
+No need to add/bump Epoch.
+
+On 02.12.2012 14:21, Angelo Naselli wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> Sankore [1] has recently changed the name
+</I>&gt;<i> in Open-Sankore.
+</I>&gt;<i> Moreover i have a historical mistake i made
+</I>&gt;<i> e.g. the version is not 3.1 but &quot;3.1&quot; is part
+</I>&gt;<i> of its name, while real version is inside of
+</I>&gt;<i> its project (2.0 beta 10 at the moment).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now i'd like to fix it up, but i need some suggestions
+</I>&gt;<i> in how to work.
+</I>&gt;<i> Should i change the project to open-sankore and
+</I>&gt;<i> obsoleting the old one? (is that enough?)
+</I>&gt;<i> Or should i leave it as it is by now and
+</I>&gt;<i> add en epoch to remove 3.1?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any other suggestion?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> TIA,
+</I>&gt;<i> Angelo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] <A HREF="https://github.com/Sankore/Sankore-3.1">https://github.com/Sankore/Sankore-3.1</A>
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+ <B>Angelo Naselli</B>
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+Il 02/12/2012 14:59, Kamil Rytarowski ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> svn mv over package name, spec name, Name tag, misc directory
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+</I>&gt;<i> Add Provides: oldpackage-name and Obsoletes: oldpackage-name
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+</I>&gt;<i> No need to add/bump Epoch.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>But I'm not sure that changing the name to open sankore is
+right, since the haven't changed the tarball name...
+
+Angelo
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+Are there any documents you can point me at? Anyone want to mentor me
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+ <B>Anne Nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>Le 02/12/2012 11:23, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i> On 25/10/12 01:42, Funda Wang wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/10/24 Anne Nicolas&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Here somebody you may be able to help to become a Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packager. Can you see with him if it's possible ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sure, I'm happy with that.&lt;snip&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please update the mentoring page. Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The mentoring page was never updated.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, there was another mail in this thread, where someone else
+</I>&gt;<i> offered to mentor Joseph.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe no one felt *fully* accepted as Joseph's mentor, and that
+</I>&gt;<i> contributed to the communication problems??
+</I>
+Not a all. there was a mail of Funda answering on it and accepting to
+mentor him.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as shown with the recent pcre case, we need to be more verbose on
+</I>&gt;<i> the -dev ml about packages that are WIP and/or known to break bs...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm in the process of updating ppl from 0.11.2 to 1.0
+</I>&gt;<i> (and cloog-ppl to whatever matching version is)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, if this package hits the buildsystem &amp; mirrors before it's
+</I>&gt;<i> properly tested it _will_ break atleast gcc, so all builds will
+</I>&gt;<i> come to a full stop in cauldron.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So whatever you do... _dont_ touch theese packages until I have
+</I>&gt;<i> tested and submitted them.
+</I>
+
+You can forget about this update ...
+
+I forgot to check what gcc actually supports :/
+
+gcc-4.7 requires ppl-0.11 branch and cloog-ppl-0.15 branch
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+I've reverted ppl in svn to the state before I started the
+upgrade and updated the warning at top of the spec.
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+I've also added warning in cloog-ppl spec about the needed
+version match for gcc.
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+--
+Thomas
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+Mageia-3-Alpha2 (fully updated). WiFi adaptor is Broadcom BCM43225.
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+On Mageia-2 the Wifi worked fine - at first - but after the recent s/w update
+it started all over again 'Looking for software', after which it suffered the
+'Cannot found network' dead end. No WiFi.
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+However, looking around Google-land I saw a suggestion to install
+&quot;kernel-firmware-nonfree&quot;, which I did, and this has brought WiFi back to life.
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+So I then tried the same install on Mageia-3-Alpha2, but sadly it still (and
+always has) failed &quot;Connection failed&quot; (though it sees the SSID).
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+I also tried Ubuntu 12.01 and Mint 13 KDE, on both of which WiFi worked 'out of
+the can'.
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+When can we have a Mageia with WiFi that works and is reliable, please?
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+&gt;<i> I'm using Mageia-2 on my netbook for normal work, at the same checking out
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-3-Alpha2 (fully updated). WiFi adaptor is Broadcom BCM43225.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mageia-2 the Wifi worked fine - at first - but after the recent s/w update
+</I>&gt;<i> it started all over again 'Looking for software', after which it suffered the
+</I>&gt;<i> 'Cannot found network' dead end. No WiFi.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, looking around Google-land I saw a suggestion to install
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;kernel-firmware-nonfree&quot;, which I did, and this has brought WiFi back to life.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I then tried the same install on Mageia-3-Alpha2, but sadly it still (and
+</I>&gt;<i> always has) failed &quot;Connection failed&quot; (though it sees the SSID).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I also tried Ubuntu 12.01 and Mint 13 KDE, on both of which WiFi worked 'out of
+</I>&gt;<i> the can'.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When can we have a Mageia with WiFi that works and is reliable, please?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Have you created a bug for this Maurice?
+
+Claire
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+&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund skrev 1.12.2012 18:09:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as shown with the recent pcre case, we need to be more verbose on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the -dev ml about packages that are WIP and/or known to break bs...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm in the process of updating ppl from 0.11.2 to 1.0
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (and cloog-ppl to whatever matching version is)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now, if this package hits the buildsystem &amp; mirrors before it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> properly tested it _will_ break atleast gcc, so all builds will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> come to a full stop in cauldron.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So whatever you do... _dont_ touch theese packages until I have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tested and submitted them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can forget about this update ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I forgot to check what gcc actually supports :/
+</I>
+Thanks for looking into this.
+
+&gt;<i> gcc-4.7 requires ppl-0.11 branch and cloog-ppl-0.15 branch
+</I>
+Are you sure about cloog-ppl? Current mdv/ROSA has cloog-ppl 0.16.1 with gcc 4.7.3-development. Actually ROSA 2012 LTS has gcc 4.6.1 with
+cloog-ppl 0.16.1.
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+&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund skrev 1.12.2012 18:09:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> as shown with the recent pcre case, we need to be more verbose on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the -dev ml about packages that are WIP and/or known to break bs...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm in the process of updating ppl from 0.11.2 to 1.0
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (and cloog-ppl to whatever matching version is)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now, if this package hits the buildsystem &amp; mirrors before it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> properly tested it _will_ break atleast gcc, so all builds will
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> come to a full stop in cauldron.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So whatever you do... _dont_ touch theese packages until I have
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tested and submitted them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You can forget about this update ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I forgot to check what gcc actually supports :/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for looking into this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gcc-4.7 requires ppl-0.11 branch and cloog-ppl-0.15 branch
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are you sure about cloog-ppl? Current mdv/ROSA has cloog-ppl 0.16.1 with gcc 4.7.3-development. Actually ROSA 2012 LTS has gcc 4.6.1 with
+</I>&gt;<i> cloog-ppl 0.16.1.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I guess they package CLooG 0.16 as cloog-ppl.
+
+But I dont think I want to switch to that as it's still considered
+being in testing stage...
+
+ From GCC-4.7 prerequisites.html:
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+CLooG-PPL version 0.15 or CLooG 0.16:
+Necessary to build GCC with the Graphite loop optimizations. There
+are two versions available. CLooG-PPL 0.15 as well as CLooG 0.16.
+The former is the default right now. It can be downloaded from
+<A HREF="ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/infrastructure/">ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/infrastructure/</A> as cloog-ppl-0.15.tar.gz.
+
+CLooG 0.16 support is still in testing stage, but will be the
+default in future GCC releases. It is also available at
+<A HREF="ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/infrastructure/">ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/infrastructure/</A> as cloog-0.16.1.tar.gz.
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+--
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+&gt;<i> Are we going to stay with filesystem-2.1.9?
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora is on version 3.2
+</I>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?">ftg at roadrunner.com
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+<PRE>On 12/02/2012 12:14 PM, Claire Robinson wrote:
+&gt;<i> Have you created a bug for this Maurice?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>There probably already is one. Or, he can just search the ML archives.
+This has been discussed to death, several times. I can't recall whether
+an authoritative decision was made, but IIRC most people were happy with
+including nonfree on the media and then having an install option
+allowing the user to activate the nonfree repo in the install and the
+finished system so that drakconnect can install the needed firmware when
+the connection is set up.
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+ <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B>
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+<PRE>Le 02/12/12 14:23,Stan Thomas nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+&gt;<i> I'd be interested in doing some backports to Mageia 1 to keep it going a
+</I>&gt;<i> little longer; Firefox and Thunderbird would be my main focus. I've
+</I>&gt;<i> always thought I should learn how to build packages for a Linux distro.
+</I>&gt;<i> Are there any documents you can point me at? Anyone want to mentor me
+</I>&gt;<i> for this?
+</I>
+Not for this, but if you want to work on Mageia 3, or on QA for Mageia
+2, please join!
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager</A>
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team</A>
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+<PRE>Hello!
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+It's not the best idea to start with packaging Firefox and Thunderbird:
+1. Both packages are advanced and hard to maintain
+2. If someone really wants the newest release of FF or TB, then he will
+simply download a binary from the upstream webpage, unpack in $HOME and
+use...
+
+On 02.12.2012 15:23, Stan Thomas wrote:
+&gt;<i> I'd be interested in doing some backports to Mageia 1 to keep it going a
+</I>&gt;<i> little longer; Firefox and Thunderbird would be my main focus. I've
+</I>&gt;<i> always thought I should learn how to build packages for a Linux distro.
+</I>&gt;<i> Are there any documents you can point me at? Anyone want to mentor me
+</I>&gt;<i> for this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 17:14:17 +0000, Claire Robinson wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Have you created a bug for this Maurice?
+</I>
+ Yes - see:
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+ <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7844">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7844</A>
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+Regards,
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+ <B>Angelo Naselli</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20urpmi%20--download-all%20--no-clean%20does%20not%20work%20any%0A%20more&In-Reply-To=%3C50BBADB2.60509%40linux.it%3E"
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+ <I>Sun Dec 2 20:36:18 CET 2012</I>
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+&gt;<i> I opened a bug report for that:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8272">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8272</A>
+</I>
+Fixed tv, thanks
+
+ Angelo
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+ <B>Barry Jackson</B>
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+<PRE>On 02/12/12 12:42, Barry Jackson wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 02/12/12 09:37, Joseph Wang wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can someone check the following package submissions
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> quantlib
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> python-pyp2rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> leocad
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> leocad-data
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also, does anyone object if I add the following to task-games?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> vassal
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> simutrans
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> leocad (once it gets run)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Joseph I notice that some e.g. quantlib (I didn't look at all) of your
+</I>&gt;<i> specs are missing proper tabbed (or spaced) indentation.
+</I>&gt;<i> example here <A HREF="http://paste.kde.org/618332/">http://paste.kde.org/618332/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> quantlib:
+</I>&gt;<i> There is a dot ending summary(s)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> svn should be part of release not version and I don't think the
+</I>&gt;<i> %if...%endif is going to work as you expect.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>The %if is OK ignore my last comment ;)
+Attached is a patch that shows a possible approach regarding the Release
+tag.
+-------------- next part --------------
+Index: SPECS/quantlib.spec
+===================================================================
+--- SPECS/quantlib.spec (revision 325459)
++++ SPECS/quantlib.spec (working copy)
+@@ -1,11 +1,11 @@
+ %define svn 0
+-%define baseversion 1.2.1
++%define rel 1
+ %define major 0
+
+ %if %svn
+-%define version %{baseversion}.svn%{svn}
++%define release %mkrel -c %{svn} %{rel}
+ %else
+-%define version %{baseversion}
++%define release %mkrel %{rel}
+ %endif
+
+ # Define some specific macros
+@@ -15,8 +15,8 @@
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+ Summary: The free/open-source library for quantitative finance.
+ Name: quantlib
+-Version: %{version}
+-Release: %mkrel 1
++Version: 1.2.1
++Release: %{release}
+ License: BSD License
+ Group: System/Libraries
+ Vendor: QuantLib.org
+@@ -29,6 +29,7 @@
+ URL: <A HREF="http://quantlib.org/">http://quantlib.org/</A>
+ BuildRequires: boost-devel &gt;= 1.34.1
+ BuildRequires: doxygen &gt;= 1.3, graphviz
++BuildRequires: emacs
+
+ %define libname %mklibname %{name} 1
+ %define libname_devel %mklibname -d %{name}
+@@ -77,7 +78,7 @@
+ pre-constructed test cases, and helps in validating the library.
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+-%setup -q -n QuantLib-%{baseversion}
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+ %apply_patches
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+<PRE>02.12.2012 21:14, Kamil Rytarowski kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's not the best idea to start with packaging Firefox and Thunderbird:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Both packages are advanced and hard to maintain
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. If someone really wants the newest release of FF or TB, then he will simply download a
+</I>&gt;<i> binary from the upstream webpage, unpack in $HOME and use...
+</I>First Funda, now you.. please stop that top-posting, both of you :/
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+&gt;<i> When can we have a Mageia with WiFi that works and is reliable, please?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>WiFi works in Mageia 3 with lots of hardware. Your bug is a driver
+problem, not a global Mageia configuration one. Try with an USB Wi-Fi
+dongle if you can....
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+<PRE>On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 09:36:36PM -0500, David wrote in
+&lt;k9eerj$lco$<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">1 at ger.gmane.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>As the person who does a lot of the packaging for security updates, I am
+</I>&gt;<i>willing to continue the work I do on it, especially since I haven't
+</I>&gt;<i>had time yet to move my and my family's workstations to Mageia 2, and
+</I>&gt;<i>probably won't until late December, but I don't have a way to
+</I>&gt;<i>distribute any new packages. The build system has closed for Mageia 1.
+</I>&gt;<i>SVN should still be open, so I suppose I could check things in there
+</I>&gt;<i>and anyone interested could build from it locally? I don't want to host
+</I>&gt;<i>my own repository somewhere.
+</I>
+If there is user demand for it, and packagers willing to provide security
+updates for a few more months, I'm willing to host the packages built. All
+with the understanding that:
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+1) I don't have the time or the skills to set up a full flexed build
+system;
+2) All packages are made available &quot;as is&quot; and may break the users system,
+destroy their homework, offend mothers in law, or kick their pets;
+3) No promises on availability other than on a best effort base.
+
+Lemme know should there be interested takers :)
+
+Remmy
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+<PRE>Le 02/12/2012 13:13, Maurice Batey a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Those are just some of the reasons why I would like to avoid - or postpone -
+</I>&gt;<i> conversion to GRUB2, the need for which I still fail to comprehend.
+</I>Why do you care about installer support, for stuff already installed ?
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+<PRE>2012/12/3 Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Le 02/12/2012 13:13, Maurice Batey a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Those are just some of the reasons why I would like to avoid - or postpone
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> conversion to GRUB2, the need for which I still fail to comprehend.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why do you care about installer support, for stuff already installed ?
+</I>
+I do not understand the whole discussion about Grub. If you have a
+Grub2 installed by another distribution it is easy to install a second
+distro (Mageia 3) which also uses Grub2. If you have another
+distribution installed with grub-legacy it is easy to install a second
+distro which uses grub2 (use chainloader in your existing
+grub-legacy).
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+For me it is totally regardless which grub will be used for Mageia3.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Christiaan Welvaart at 01/12/12 17:59 did gyre and
+gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, 1 Dec 2012, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Every other distros name their debug packages as foobar-debuginfo.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We name them foobar-debug instead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Due to this, we've to patch various packages (gdb, ...) for that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And we've to maintain those patches of course...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What do you think about naming them -debuginfo like other distros
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> do and drop those patches?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Will all -debuginfo packages get a Provides+Obsoletes on the -debug
+</I>&gt;<i> package name? Otherwise we get a lot of orphan packages on users'
+</I>&gt;<i> systems plus potential file conflicts between -debug and -debuginfo
+</I>&gt;<i> packages.
+</I>
+This would be nice if easily possible, but if not, then just some
+general advice of running &quot;urpmq --not-available&quot; would be a good enough
+fallback IMO.
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+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Kamil Rytarowski at 02/12/12 11:10 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Awant-window-navigator (awn) [1] and awn-extras-applets are near dead.
+</I>&gt;<i> Both packages are unbuildable due to old vala dependencies (it needs
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.14 generation, since we are already using 0.18).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maintaining it currently means becoming a developer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora has already removed it from repositories [2]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there anyone who want to fix upstream revision? If not, I will
+</I>&gt;<i> obsolete it.
+</I>
+Seems reasonable to me.
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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+<PRE>Maurice Batey a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 21:43:28 +0200, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I guess he means that if we switch to Grub2 by default, will we still
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> support greb legacy ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Correct!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I.e. when installing 'GRUB2' Mageia-3, will there be an option to use
+</I>&gt;<i> GRUB-Legacy instead?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The reason I ask is that:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (1) On my desktop I use the excellent GAG bootloader in the MBR, and it cannot
+</I>&gt;<i> boot GRUB2 installs. See e.g.:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/gag/forums/forum/230439/topic/3533186">http://sourceforge.net/projects/gag/forums/forum/230439/topic/3533186</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAG_%28boot_loader%29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAG_%28boot_loader%29</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>The second reference mentions *potential* problems accessing a grub2
+partition, in the event of repartitioning. Implying that GAG can indeed
+boot to grub2 partitions.
+Such problems could always be corrected by reinstalling grub in the
+partition in question.
+Note that GAG conflicts with the newer GPT partition table disk format,
+so sooner or later you will have to migrate to something else.
+
+If you have problems with GAG, you could always replace it with grub2 in
+the boot sector.
+
+&gt;<i> (2) On my netbook, I chainload via a GRUB-legacy Mageia MBR, where the Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> menu.lst picks up all the other installs. (This includes the GRUB2 Ubuntu and
+</I>&gt;<i> Mint, whose GRUB2 menu's purport to boot the GRUB-legacy installs but fail to
+</I>&gt;<i> do so, hence though I know how to chainload from a GRUB-legacy menu.lst into a
+</I>&gt;<i> GRUB2 boot install, I do not know how to boot into a GRUB-legacy install from a
+</I>&gt;<i> GRUB2 menu. If you see what I mean...
+</I>
+Grub2 does seem more complicated to customize.
+A tutorial which should help :
+<A HREF="http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html">http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html</A>
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+<PRE>Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;<i> general advice of running &quot;urpmq --not-available&quot; would be a good enough
+</I>&gt;<i> fallback IMO.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+By chance is that compared to cauldron ?
+Or is some other parameter required ?
+On my system, it lists 981 packages (more than 2/3 of those installed),
+on an up to date mga2.
+The vast majority are tagged mga2
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+various upstream packages.)
+Scanning my mirror 2/core/updates, a lot are in my list.
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+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> general advice of running &quot;urpmq --not-available&quot; would be a good enough
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fallback IMO.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> By chance is that compared to cauldron ?
+</I>
+To the configured media
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+&gt;<i> Or is some other parameter required ?
+</I>
+None should be needed
+
+&gt;<i> On my system, it lists 981 packages (more than 2/3 of those installed), on
+</I>&gt;<i> an up to date mga2.
+</I>&gt;<i> The vast majority are tagged mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> (A few are tagged mga1, required by some mga2 package, as well as various
+</I>&gt;<i> upstream packages.)
+</I>&gt;<i> Scanning my mirror 2/core/updates, a lot are in my list.
+</I>&gt;<i> (The list gives the full package file names, except the .rpm suffix.)
+</I>
+Do you have some example?
+Can you give your urpmi configuration?
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Kamil Rytarowski at 02/12/12 01:38 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have got two packages:
+</I>&gt;<i> udunits (1.x line) and udunits2 (2.x line).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The 1.x generation is deprecated for a long time and superseded by 2.x [1]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am proposing to obsolete 1.x line and then rename udunits2 to udunits.
+</I>
+Without knowing the package in question this seems sensible to me.
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+<PRE>On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:13 PM, andre999 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andre999mga at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> general advice of running &quot;urpmq --not-available&quot; would be a good enough
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> fallback IMO.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> By chance is that compared to cauldron ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To the configured media
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Or is some other parameter required ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> None should be needed
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On my system, it lists 981 packages (more than 2/3 of those installed), on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> an up to date mga2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The vast majority are tagged mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (A few are tagged mga1, required by some mga2 package, as well as various
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> upstream packages.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Scanning my mirror 2/core/updates, a lot are in my list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (The list gives the full package file names, except the .rpm suffix.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you have some example?
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you give your urpmi configuration?
+</I>
+Testing on various machines, it seems wrong when there are several
+versions of the package available (updates or core+tainted)
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+&gt;<i> WiFi works in Mageia 3 with lots of hardware. Your bug is a driver
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+</I>
+ Correct, but why does Mageia-3 mess up with the driver when e.g. Ubuntu and
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+&gt;<i> Why do you care about installer support, for stuff already installed ?
+</I>
+ Not for 'stuff installed', but for the installation of Mageia-3, with which I
+would prefer to use GRUB-Legacy - hence the enquiry &quot;Will the Mageia-3 installer
+offer a GRUB-Legacy option&quot;, i.e. could I request it to use GRUB-legacy in the
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+&gt;<i> If you have another distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> installed with grub-legacy it is easy to install a second distro which
+</I>&gt;<i> uses grub2 (use chainloader in your existing grub-legacy).
+</I>
+ Depends on where GRUB2 is installed.
+If it goes in the MBR, then how does one get to existing GRUB-Legacy installs?
+ (I do not know how to chainload from a GRUB2 menu to a GRUB-Legacy install,
+though I can from GRUB-Legacy to GRUB2).
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+My experience with GRUB2 distros such as Ubuntu 12.01 and Mint 13 is that
+although their menus do include existing GRUB-Legacy installs, they fail to boot
+them.
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+Apart from all that, I do not WANT to use GRUB2. Why is it needed?
+ As someone else said in here just now there is a vast difference between the
+simplicity of adjusting a GRUB-Legacy menu.lst and the ridiculous jumping
+through hoops required to do the equivalent in GRUB2.
+ And isn't it great that e.g. hd(0,0) in GRUB-Legacy is hd(0,1) in GRUB2?
+What was the point of that unbelieveble jumble?
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+/\/\aurice
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 10:40:11 +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why do you care about installer support, for stuff already installed ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not for 'stuff installed', but for the installation of Mageia-3, with which I
+</I>&gt;<i> would prefer to use GRUB-Legacy - hence the enquiry &quot;Will the Mageia-3 installer
+</I>&gt;<i> offer a GRUB-Legacy option&quot;, i.e. could I request it to use GRUB-legacy in the
+</I>&gt;<i> install?
+</I>As long as it is in the distribution, why do you need the installer to
+support it, as long as you can reconfigure it thereafter ?
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+--
+BOFH excuse #331:
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+</I>We're running short of manpower, not of disk space...
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+&gt;<i> On 2 December 2012 01:23, Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are we going to stay with filesystem-2.1.9?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Fedora is on version 3.2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> version is quite arbitrary...
+</I>But the /usrmove change would deserve a more explicit version bump than
+usual changes.
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+BOFH excuse #145:
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 10:51:52 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If you have another distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; installed with grub-legacy it is easy to install a second distro which
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; uses grub2 (use chainloader in your existing grub-legacy).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Depends on where GRUB2 is installed.
+</I>&gt;<i> If it goes in the MBR, then how does one get to existing GRUB-Legacy
+</I>&gt;<i> installs? (I do not know how to chainload from a GRUB2 menu to a
+</I>&gt;<i> GRUB-Legacy install, though I can from GRUB-Legacy to GRUB2).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My experience with GRUB2 distros such as Ubuntu 12.01 and Mint 13 is that
+</I>&gt;<i> although their menus do include existing GRUB-Legacy installs, they fail to
+</I>&gt;<i> boot them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Apart from all that, I do not WANT to use GRUB2. Why is it needed?
+</I>&gt;<i> As someone else said in here just now there is a vast difference between
+</I>&gt;<i> the simplicity of adjusting a GRUB-Legacy menu.lst and the ridiculous
+</I>&gt;<i> jumping through hoops required to do the equivalent in GRUB2.
+</I>&gt;<i> And isn't it great that e.g. hd(0,0) in GRUB-Legacy is hd(0,1) in GRUB2?
+</I>&gt;<i> What was the point of that unbelieveble jumble?
+</I>
+you are completly correct, however, grub-legacy hasn't been supported for
+years, and grub2 has btrfs support...
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+&gt;<i> Testing on various machines, it seems wrong when there are several
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+so, this is again bug 2317.... joy...
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+&gt;<i> Le 02/12/2012 18:46, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 2 December 2012 01:23, Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Are we going to stay with filesystem-2.1.9?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Fedora is on version 3.2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> version is quite arbitrary...
+</I>&gt;<i> But the /usrmove change would deserve a more explicit version bump than
+</I>&gt;<i> usual changes.
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+&gt;<i> Op maandag 3 december 2012 18:01:28 schreef Maurice Batey:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 10:51:52 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you have another distribution
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installed with grub-legacy it is easy to install a second distro which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> uses grub2 (use chainloader in your existing grub-legacy).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Depends on where GRUB2 is installed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If it goes in the MBR, then how does one get to existing GRUB-Legacy
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installs? (I do not know how to chainload from a GRUB2 menu to a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> GRUB-Legacy install, though I can from GRUB-Legacy to GRUB2).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My experience with GRUB2 distros such as Ubuntu 12.01 and Mint 13 is that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> although their menus do include existing GRUB-Legacy installs, they fail to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> boot them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Apart from all that, I do not WANT to use GRUB2. Why is it needed?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As someone else said in here just now there is a vast difference between
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the simplicity of adjusting a GRUB-Legacy menu.lst and the ridiculous
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> jumping through hoops required to do the equivalent in GRUB2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And isn't it great that e.g. hd(0,0) in GRUB-Legacy is hd(0,1) in GRUB2?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What was the point of that unbelieveble jumble?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> you are completly correct, however, grub-legacy hasn't been supported for
+</I>&gt;<i> years, and grub2 has btrfs support...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+yeah, well not supporting brtfs can be considered a + :)
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+even btrfs has problem supporting btrfs at times :)
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+&gt;<i> Op maandag 3 december 2012 14:29:05 schreef Pascal Terjan:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Testing on various machines, it seems wrong when there are several
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> versions of the package available (updates or core+tainted)
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+</I>&gt;<i> so, this is again bug 2317.... joy...
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+I don't see the relation
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+&gt;<i> perhaps bug 2317 is also at the basis of the orphans problem...
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+&gt;<i> As long as it is in the distribution, why do you need the installer to
+</I>&gt;<i> support it, as long as you can reconfigure it thereafter ?
+</I>
+Grub2 installation is much more disruptive than the minimal or non-disruptive
+Grub Legacy.
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+</I>Thanks Shlomi ECL is built! Now, it's time for GCL.
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 7:29 PM, AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op maandag 3 december 2012 14:29:05 schreef Pascal Terjan:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Testing on various machines, it seems wrong when there are several
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; versions of the package available (updates or core+tainted)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; so, this is again bug 2317.... joy...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't see the relation
+</I>
+the linking of existing rpms to other repositories... so that multiple
+repositories have the same files...
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+&gt;<i> &gt; perhaps bug 2317 is also at the basis of the orphans problem...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which problem?
+</I>
+the one which people complain about where the --orphans option removes too
+much...
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+well, it likely isn't.
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+&gt;<i> Op maandag 3 december 2012 19:52:43 schreef Pascal Terjan:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 7:29 PM, AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Op maandag 3 december 2012 14:29:05 schreef Pascal Terjan:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Testing on various machines, it seems wrong when there are several
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; versions of the package available (updates or core+tainted)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; so, this is again bug 2317.... joy...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't see the relation
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the linking of existing rpms to other repositories... so that multiple
+</I>&gt;<i> repositories have the same files...
+</I>
+That is not the problem, the problem is when there are different
+versions of the same package
+It will only consider one version available and may consider yours not
+available while it actually is
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; perhaps bug 2317 is also at the basis of the orphans problem...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Which problem?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the one which people complain about where the --orphans option removes too
+</I>&gt;<i> much...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> well, it likely isn't.
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+<PRE>Op maandag 3 december 2012 20:15:36 schreef Pascal Terjan:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 8:07 PM, AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op maandag 3 december 2012 19:52:43 schreef Pascal Terjan:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 7:29 PM, AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Op maandag 3 december 2012 14:29:05 schreef Pascal Terjan:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Testing on various machines, it seems wrong when there are several
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; versions of the package available (updates or core+tainted)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; so, this is again bug 2317.... joy...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I don't see the relation
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the linking of existing rpms to other repositories... so that multiple
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; repositories have the same files...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That is not the problem, the problem is when there are different
+</I>&gt;<i> versions of the same package
+</I>&gt;<i> It will only consider one version available and may consider yours not
+</I>&gt;<i> available while it actually is
+</I>
+oh, different versions...
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+ <B>Stan Thomas</B>
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+Firefox and Thunderbird updates in this category). There seem to be a
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+&gt;<i> I had the same error in the partition editor when booting from usb. Not
+</I>&gt;<i> even in a vbox.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+stage2 probably broken.
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+If you wait a couple of days we should have a new stage2 available.
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+&gt;<i> As long as it is in the distribution, why do you need the installer to
+</I>&gt;<i> support it, as long as you can reconfigure it thereafter ?
+</I>
+ If you are meaning that Mageia-3 will contain the capability of using
+GRUB-Legacy but will install GRUB2, and a user may then choose to make a
+post-install change to GRUB-Legacy, then I could live with that.
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+change to GRUB2) then at first it should offer that progression as an install
+option, and install the 'Legacy' version as default.
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+<PRE>On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:25:53 +0100, AL13N wrote:
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+&gt;<i> grub-legacy hasn't been supported for years,
+</I>
+ I don't understand what you are saying.
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+Perhaps it's a terminology thing.
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+I'm using &quot;GRUB-Legacy&quot; to mean &quot;The version of GRUB we are using in pre-GRUB2
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+ <I>Mon Dec 3 22:40:45 CET 2012</I>
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+&gt;<i> I don't know what component is at stake so I can't fill a bug report.
+</I>No need:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%22read_config%22">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%22read_config%22</A> -&gt;
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+<PRE>On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:25:53 +0100, AL13N wrote:
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+&gt;<i> grub2 has btrfs support
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+ So for those pioneers who want to use btrfs, let them have an 'install with
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+<PRE>Trying to launch openalchemist gave me a crash because Clanlib2 uses
+SSE2 on SSE2 systems for software rendering, while we disabled it at
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+What should we do? I think enabling it is better, as all i586 CPU with
+less than 10 years come with SSE2. But our policy forbids it ;-)
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+ERROR FOLLOWS :
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+Sorry, this compiled clanSWRender does not support SSE2, but your CPU
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+<PRE>Em 03-12-2012 22:26, Stan Thomas escreveu:
+&gt;<i> I'm willing to help with maintenance updates for Mageia 1 (and I count
+</I>&gt;<i> Firefox and Thunderbird updates in this category). There seem to be a
+</I>&gt;<i> few others who are similarly motivated. But I'm a newcomer to this so if
+</I>&gt;<i> there is anyone ready to take the lead please tell me where we start.
+</I>
+The problem is that it cannot be the same person who does:
+-packages updates for MGA1
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+&gt;<i> Le 01/12/12 02:30,Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 29/11/12 11:04,Malo nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 27/11/12 23:02, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 26/11/12 17:34,Malo nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry for the wrong title ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 26/11/12 17:30, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Total = 1338
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Today, 1273 remains to be changed. Thanks!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Keep up the good work!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This morning, 1182 are left.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Tonight, only 1103 remain, thanks notably to Olav.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Let's pass under 1000 by tomorrow night!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks to the effort of many, the number of remaining packages is now of
+</I>&gt;<i> 972. Many remain in Video.
+</I>
+Today's number is 847. It looks good, but still many in Office or Video
+need to move. Keep at it!!
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+Thanks a lot for your help,
+--
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+<PRE>qlandkartegt build fails because urpmi auto-selects a different libpq
+and libpq-devel (eg. libpq5.1 and libpq5.2-devel) for the auto requires
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+&gt;<i> qlandkartegt build fails because urpmi auto-selects a different libpq and
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+</I>&gt;<i> Any hint on how to deal with that? Should I require manually a versioned
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:25:53 +0100, AL13N wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> grub2 has btrfs support
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So for those pioneers who want to use btrfs, let them have an 'install with
+</I>&gt;<i> GRUB2&quot; option, and keep GRUB-Legacy as default?!
+</I>
+Yes, at least until btrfs is really working - if I'm not mistaken it
+doesn't even have a working tool for checking the filesystem or repair
+it.
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+<PRE>On 11/28/2012 03:15 PM, Jose Jorge wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 28/11/2012 14:05, Johnny A. Solbu a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wednesday 28. November 2012 12.44, Olivier Blin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You can just set NM_CONTROLLED=yes in the generated ifcfg files.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If the interface is configured using NetworkManager, why doesn't NM itself create the file, if it doesn't exist, and add the line, to prevent this?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Perhaps a checkbox could be added to make it happen.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Because the GUI tools and the installer always create this file. Except hackers, no one removes it, ans MCC adds NM_CONTROLLED=yes if you check the box in the GUI!
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Well, this is what I have undestood and checked, plz correct me if wrong:
+- initscripts always want an ifcfg-eth0 (-wlan0) file
+- if it is not there, it is created by udev
+- mageia gui tools set the NM_CONTROLLED flag, but still rely on the ifcfg-rh
+ plugin to let NM pull the config from there
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+To get the most 'pure' NM setup I could, I did this:
+- disabled the ifcfg-rh plugin in NM.conf, just keyfile
+- configured the network via nm-connection-editor, stored system wide
+ in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
+- creaed a dummy ifcfg-eth0 file with
+ DEVICE=eth0
+ NM_CONTROLLED=yes
+ lines. No network info in there...just dummy file for initscripts to ignore it,
+ as udev will be trying to create it with DHCP setup if not present...
+
+Perhaps GUI toos and installer could do this also, if user wants the interface
+to be managed by NM. Perhaps it is time to deprecate ifcfg-rh and create native
+files for NM...
+NM is ispecially usefull if you connect to multiple wifis and want different
+routers/DNS/domains depending on your wifi network.
+
+Thanks.
+
+PD: diggin a bit I found /etc/sysconfig/udev_net, with its BLACKLIST lists,
+and found also about /etc/sysconfit/network and AUTOMATIC_IFCFG
+(see /lib/udev/net_create_ifcfg).
+Places to play...
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+</I>&gt;<i> To get the most 'pure' NM setup I could, I did this:
+</I>&gt;<i> - disabled the ifcfg-rh plugin in NM.conf, just keyfile
+</I>&gt;<i> - configured the network via nm-connection-editor, stored system wide
+</I>&gt;<i> in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
+</I>&gt;<i> - creaed a dummy ifcfg-eth0 file with
+</I>&gt;<i> DEVICE=eth0
+</I>&gt;<i> NM_CONTROLLED=yes
+</I>&gt;<i> lines. No network info in there...just dummy file for initscripts to
+</I>&gt;<i> ignore it,
+</I>&gt;<i> as udev will be trying to create it with DHCP setup if not present...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps GUI toos and installer could do this also, if user wants the
+</I>&gt;<i> interface
+</I>&gt;<i> to be managed by NM. Perhaps it is time to deprecate ifcfg-rh and
+</I>&gt;<i> create native
+</I>&gt;<i> files for NM...
+</I>Yes, the problem at the moment is coordination between udev and
+drakconnect and NM. The present policy is that NM will *not* be the
+default, which is why udev creates the ifcfg files.
+
+NM is designed to assume that it is in charge of all interfaces. The
+only concession to coexistence with ifplugd is that if an ifcfg exists
+*and* it has NM_CONTROLLED=NO, then NM will not try to control the
+interface. Conversely, if ifplugd finds that an ifcfg exists *and* it
+has NM_CONTROLLED=YES, then it will ignore it.
+
+For total coordination between all of these, udev, drakconnect, and
+ifplugd would have to look for and check /etc/NetworkManager.conf to
+determine whether NM was active and whether it was paying any attention
+to ifcfg files. That would determine whether ifplugd would attept to
+control any interfaces at all, and whether drakconnect would even try to
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+&gt;<i> 2012/12/3 Maurice Batey &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:25:53 +0100, AL13N wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; grub2 has btrfs support
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So for those pioneers who want to use btrfs, let them have an 'install
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; GRUB2&quot; option, and keep GRUB-Legacy as default?!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, at least until btrfs is really working - if I'm not mistaken it
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't even have a working tool for checking the filesystem or repair
+</I>&gt;<i> it.
+</I>
+you know, i'm using btrfs for a while now and it's pretty good.
+
+considering all the ext3/ext4 data corruption bugs latetly...
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+and it does have an fsck program, (even if it's only from a
+&quot;dangerdonteveruse&quot; branch that Oracle decided was good enough)
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+<PRE>Op maandag 3 december 2012 21:35:52 schreef Maurice Batey:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:25:53 +0100, AL13N wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; grub-legacy hasn't been supported for years,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't understand what you are saying.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps it's a terminology thing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm using &quot;GRUB-Legacy&quot; to mean &quot;The version of GRUB we are using in
+</I>&gt;<i> pre-GRUB2 Distro's&quot;.
+</I>
+back in mdv times, i once had a grub issue, and asked for help in the grub
+channel, they were pretty mad at me for using 0.9x(ie: grub1) and not 1.x
+versions (ie: grub2). and they were pretty clear to me that grub1 was not
+supported for a while now but distributions were still doing grub1, etc...
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+if you ask me, it's their own fault for making the transition so bad, due to
+changing all these things... but, i guess if upgrades are handled nicely (even
+if they still keep grub-legacy) and new installs use grub2, then i have no
+issue with it.
+
+otoh, atm we can choose between grub-text, grub-graphic, and lilo, so i guess
+making it grub2-graphic and grub2-text extra doesn't seem that big of a deal
+to me...
+
+in any case, people who feel strongly about this, can help out with this, i'm
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 10:51:52 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you have another distribution
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed with grub-legacy it is easy to install a second distro which
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> uses grub2 (use chainloader in your existing grub-legacy).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Depends on where GRUB2 is installed.
+</I>&gt;<i> If it goes in the MBR, then how does one get to existing GRUB-Legacy
+</I>&gt;<i> installs?
+</I>&gt;<i> (I do not know how to chainload from a GRUB2 menu to a GRUB-Legacy
+</I>&gt;<i> install,
+</I>&gt;<i> though I can from GRUB-Legacy to GRUB2).
+</I>
+Getting GRUB2 to chain load something would be a good trick, I will
+have to research that.
+
+&gt;<i> My experience with GRUB2 distros such as Ubuntu 12.01 and Mint 13 is that
+</I>&gt;<i> although their menus do include existing GRUB-Legacy installs, they fail
+</I>&gt;<i> to boot them.
+</I>
+What I've been doing lately is to install everything with its default
+boot loader into its root partition and have a tiny partition at the
+end of the disk that contains just a lilo configuration file and map file.
+
+That configuration file contains stansas like;
+other=/dev/sda5
+ label=&quot;sda5_live&quot;
+ optional
+
+Lilo only has to be rerun when you resize partitions or want to make
+cosmetic changes to them menu.
+
+&gt;<i> Apart from all that, I do not WANT to use GRUB2. Why is it needed?
+</I>&gt;<i> As someone else said in here just now there is a vast difference
+</I>&gt;<i> between the
+</I>&gt;<i> simplicity of adjusting a GRUB-Legacy menu.lst and the ridiculous jumping
+</I>&gt;<i> through hoops required to do the equivalent in GRUB2.
+</I>&gt;<i> And isn't it great that e.g. hd(0,0) in GRUB-Legacy is hd(0,1) in GRUB2?
+</I>&gt;<i> What was the point of that unbelieveble jumble?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>--
+blind Pete
+Sig goes here...
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+&gt;<i> fwang &lt;fwang&gt; 8.32-5.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 323949
+</I>&gt;<i> - add back pcretest
+</I>
+pcre requires lib64pcre1 = 8.32-5.mga3.
+So I should be able to remove old lib64pcre0:
+rpm -e --test lib64pcre0-8.21-2.mga3.x86_64
+error: Failed dependencies:
+ libpcreposix.so.1()(64bit) is needed by (installed)
+pcre-8.32-5.mga3.x86_64
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+=&gt; lib64pcreposix1-8.32-5.mga3.x86_64.rpm should obsoletes lib64pcre0
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On my system, it lists 981 packages (more than 2/3 of those installed), on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> an up to date mga2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The vast majority are tagged mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (A few are tagged mga1, required by some mga2 package, as well as various
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> upstream packages.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Scanning my mirror 2/core/updates, a lot are in my list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (The list gives the full package file names, except the .rpm suffix.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do you have some example?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can you give your urpmi configuration?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Testing on various machines, it seems wrong when there are several
+</I>&gt;<i> versions of the package available (updates or core+tainted)
+</I>
+I tested core+tainted, I cannot reproduce (either having the tainted
+one installed
+or the regular one installed).
+Anyway, I'm sure you can suggest a fix to your code if you do can reproduce :-)
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+<PRE>Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:13 PM, andre999 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andre999mga at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> general advice of running &quot;urpmq --not-available&quot; would be a good enough
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> fallback IMO.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> By chance is that compared to cauldron ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To the configured media
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Or is some other parameter required ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> None should be needed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On my system, it lists 981 packages (more than 2/3 of those installed), on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> an up to date mga2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The vast majority are tagged mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (A few are tagged mga1, required by some mga2 package, as well as various
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> upstream packages.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Scanning my mirror 2/core/updates, a lot are in my list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (The list gives the full package file names, except the .rpm suffix.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do you have some example?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can you give your urpmi configuration?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Testing on various machines, it seems wrong when there are several
+</I>&gt;<i> versions of the package available (updates or core+tainted)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Ok, most of my problem was due to my inadvertantly removing the official
+mirrors when I had a problem booting a few days ago.
+The only repo defined was the mga2 dvd.
+(I had tried simply reinstalling mga2, a trick which sometimes works.
+I ended up having to scan for &amp; remove bad blocks, which did work.)
+Sorry for the noise.
+
+After activating official mga2 repos, adding + activating my usual local
+repos of updates I've installed, I got a list of 133 packages.
+A few tests showed that the packages listed were only those *not* in
+activated repos, whether local or not.
+Duplicate packages or updates in activated repos didn't produce any
+false positives.
+(It is important to ensure that local repos are up to date.)
+In other words, the list was correct.
+
+So to ensure that the urpmq --non-available lists all non-supported
+(including obsoleted) packages, in addition to setting up official
+repos, local repos which might contain such packages should be deactivated.
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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+<PRE>Le 04/12/2012 03:12, dlucio a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> Snort is a libpcap-based packet sniffer/logger which can be used as a
+</I>&gt;<i> lightweight network intrusion detection system. It features rules based logging
+</I>&gt;<i> and can perform protocol analysis, content searching/matching and can be used
+</I>&gt;<i> to detect a variety of attacks and probes, such as buffer overflows, stealth
+</I>&gt;<i> port scans, CGI attacks, SMB probes, OS fingerprinting attempts, and much more.
+</I>&gt;<i> Snort has a real-time alerting capabilty, with alerts being sent to syslog, a
+</I>&gt;<i> separate &quot;alert&quot; file, or as a WinPopup message via Samba's smbclient
+</I>This is perfectly enough as package description. Everything else is
+package usage documentation, and should go elsewhere, such as a
+README.mga file.
+
+&gt;<i> This rpm is different from previous rpms
+</I>Which ones ?
+
+&gt;<i> and while it will not clobber
+</I>&gt;<i> your current snort file, you will need to modify it.
+</I>As for every other package.
+
+&gt;<i> There are 9 different packages available
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All of them require the base snort rpm. Additionally, you will need
+</I>&gt;<i> to chose a binary to install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/sbin/snort should end up being a symlink to a binary in one of
+</I>&gt;<i> the following configurations. We use update-alternatives for this.
+</I>&gt;<i> Here are the different packages along with their priorities.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> plain(10) plain+flexresp(11) mysql(12)
+</I>&gt;<i> mysql+flexresp(13) postgresql(14) postgresql+flexresp(15)
+</I>&gt;<i> bloat(16) inline(17) inline+flexresp(18)
+</I>&gt;<i> prelude(19) prelude+flexresp(20)
+</I>The day you'll modify those priorities, you'll have to modify those
+values too.
+
+&gt;<i> Please see the documentation in /usr/share/doc/snort
+</I>As for every other package.
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+<PRE>Le 03/12/2012 23:42, zezinho a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Trying to launch openalchemist gave me a crash because Clanlib2 uses
+</I>&gt;<i> SSE2 on SSE2 systems for software rendering, while we disabled it at
+</I>&gt;<i> configure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What should we do? I think enabling it is better, as all i586 CPU with
+</I>&gt;<i> less than 10 years come with SSE2. But our policy forbids it ;-)
+</I>Cool. Now we have software crashing because they don't use available
+features, what a nice idea...
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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 11:42:12PM +0100, zezinho wrote:
+&gt;<i> ERROR FOLLOWS :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Exception caught:
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry, this compiled clanSWRender does not support SSE2, but your
+</I>&gt;<i> CPU does support SSE2. (Update clanSWRender to contain SSE2)
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and zezinho at 03/12/12 22:42 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Trying to launch openalchemist gave me a crash because Clanlib2 uses
+</I>&gt;<i> SSE2 on SSE2 systems for software rendering, while we disabled it at
+</I>&gt;<i> configure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What should we do? I think enabling it is better, as all i586 CPU with
+</I>&gt;<i> less than 10 years come with SSE2. But our policy forbids it ;-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ERROR FOLLOWS :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Exception caught:
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry, this compiled clanSWRender does not support SSE2, but your CPU
+</I>&gt;<i> does support SSE2. (Update clanSWRender to contain SSE2)
+</I>
+The code should really be complied but only enabled at runtime if it's
+available. PulseAudio does this. It's more of a pain to code for but
+does make like easier for distributions.
+
+But yeah, short term fix, nuke the test, and as a meme says, keep calm
+and carry on.
+
+Col
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and zezinho at 03/12/12 22:42 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Trying to launch openalchemist gave me a crash because Clanlib2 uses
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> SSE2 on SSE2 systems for software rendering, while we disabled it at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> configure.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What should we do? I think enabling it is better, as all i586 CPU with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> less than 10 years come with SSE2. But our policy forbids it ;-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ERROR FOLLOWS :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Exception caught:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry, this compiled clanSWRender does not support SSE2, but your CPU
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> does support SSE2. (Update clanSWRender to contain SSE2)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The code should really be complied but only enabled at runtime if it's
+</I>&gt;<i> available. PulseAudio does this. It's more of a pain to code for but
+</I>&gt;<i> does make like easier for distributions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But yeah, short term fix, nuke the test, and as a meme says, keep calm
+</I>&gt;<i> and carry on.
+</I>
+but, do ALL recent i586 CPU's have SSE2? what about the embedded and VIA
+cpu's and the likes?
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+&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and zezinho at 03/12/12 22:42 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Trying to launch openalchemist gave me a crash because Clanlib2 uses
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> SSE2 on SSE2 systems for software rendering, while we disabled it at
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> configure.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What should we do? I think enabling it is better, as all i586 CPU with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> less than 10 years come with SSE2. But our policy forbids it ;-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ERROR FOLLOWS :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Exception caught:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry, this compiled clanSWRender does not support SSE2, but your CPU
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> does support SSE2. (Update clanSWRender to contain SSE2)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The code should really be complied but only enabled at runtime if it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> available. PulseAudio does this. It's more of a pain to code for but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> does make like easier for distributions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But yeah, short term fix, nuke the test, and as a meme says, keep calm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and carry on.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but, do ALL recent i586 CPU's have SSE2? what about the embedded and VIA
+</I>&gt;<i> cpu's and the likes?
+</I>
+The test is that it refuses to run if the lib is not using sse2 while
+it could (slowly).
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+The clanSWRender lib needs to be fixed to have sse2 support on sse2
+system and not on non sse2 systems so that we can enable it but that's
+something unrelated to dropping this test.
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+<PRE>When using Evolution under KDE - certain elements do not show up until I
+move the mouse over them (see snapshot)
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+Is this a theme issue?
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+This also happens in Libreoffice during the printing dialog - many
+elements in the window re missing until I move the mouse over them . . .
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+&gt;<i> When using Evolution under KDE - certain elements do not show up until I
+</I>&gt;<i> move the mouse over them (see snapshot)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is this a theme issue?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This also happens in Libreoffice during the printing dialog - many
+</I>&gt;<i> elements in the window re missing until I move the mouse over them . . .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Could you post the version you have of
+- evolution
+- oxygen-gtk3
+- gtk3
+Thanks !
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+&gt;<i> When using Evolution under KDE - certain elements do not show up until I
+</I>&gt;<i> move the mouse over them (see snapshot)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is this a theme issue?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This also happens in Libreoffice during the printing dialog - many
+</I>&gt;<i> elements in the window re missing until I move the mouse over them . . .
+</I>Libreoffice, as far as I know, uses gtk2 theming (or possibly Qt, not
+sure about what's packaged in latest mageia). Can someone confirm ? But
+in all cases this should be a different issue.
+Can you also test whether other gtk3 applications are affected, such as
+&quot;gedit&quot;, or &quot;nautilus&quot; ?
+And gtk2 applications ? (such as gimp) ?
+
+Thanks in advance,
+
+Hugo
+&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> the one which people complain about where the --orphans option removes too
+</I>&gt;<i> much...
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+&gt;<i> When using Evolution under KDE - certain elements do not show up until I
+</I>&gt;<i> move the mouse over them (see snapshot)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is this a theme issue?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This also happens in Libreoffice during the printing dialog - many
+</I>&gt;<i> elements in the window re missing until I move the mouse over them . . .
+</I>Last question: can you describe which part of the window is in the
+screenshot ?
+I'm trying to reproduce here (with somewhat older versions of evolution
+than you though), and find no issue so far. I'll udpate later on.
+
+Hugo
+&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> R.Fox
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Johnny A. Solbu &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cooker at solbu.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Monday 3. December 2012 21.07, AL13N wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Which problem?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the one which people complain about where the --orphans option removes too
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> much...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've stopped using the orphan option. A few days ago when I uninstalled something I tested before submiting, and urpme said afterwards that several houndred packages where orphaned. One of them was kdebase4-common and
+</I>
+I guess you don't have task-kde4 installed anymore (which mean you
+don't want kde anymore).
+
+&gt;<i> every kernel except the running one. :-)
+</I>
+It should keep the running one and the latest one (if they are
+different), this is intended behaviour unless you explicitly installed
+them because you wanted those specific versions
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Pascal Terjan at 04/12/12 14:16 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Johnny A. Solbu &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cooker at solbu.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Monday 3. December 2012 21.07, AL13N wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Which problem?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the one which people complain about where the --orphans option removes too
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> much...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've stopped using the orphan option. A few days ago when I uninstalled something I tested before submiting, and urpme said afterwards that several houndred packages where orphaned. One of them was kdebase4-common and
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess you don't have task-kde4 installed anymore (which mean you
+</I>&gt;<i> don't want kde anymore).
+</I>
+I think I remember it being removed as a result of some kde-games thing
+semi-recently. That's the fun of running Cauldron :D
+
+I see the usefulness of the orphan option, but I like a bit more control
+which is why I pushed (many years ago now) for the --not-available
+option that Pascal made not-rubbish :) Gives me a little more control
+over things.
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 12:19:21 +1100, blind Pete wrote:
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+&gt;<i> What I've been doing lately is to install everything with its default boot
+</I>&gt;<i> loader into its root partition and have a tiny partition at the end of the
+</I>&gt;<i> disk that contains just a lilo configuration file and map file.
+</I>
+ I have similar 'Plan B', where I would have GRUB-Legacy in the MBR
+pointing at a minimal GRUB-Legacy install, whose menu.lst could then be
+edited to chain into any other install (GRUB2 or GRUB-legacy).
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+<PRE>Le 04/12/2012 13:21, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:10 PM, AL13N&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The code should really be complied but only enabled at runtime if it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> available. PulseAudio does this. It's more of a pain to code for but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> does make like easier for distributions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But yeah, short term fix, nuke the test, and as a meme says, keep calm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and carry on.
+</I>
+It is not only a test, it is a crash.
+
+
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but, do ALL recent i586 CPU's have SSE2? what about the embedded and VIA
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cpu's and the likes?
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE2#CPUs_supporting_SSE2">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE2#CPUs_supporting_SSE2</A>
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The test is that it refuses to run if the lib is not using sse2 while
+</I>&gt;<i> it could (slowly).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The clanSWRender lib needs to be fixed to have sse2 support on sse2
+</I>&gt;<i> system and not on non sse2 systems so that we can enable it but that's
+</I>&gt;<i> something unrelated to dropping this test.
+</I>
+No, the clanSWRender has only a SSE2 implementation because no one wants
+to write a SW render which is too slow.
+<A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-games/2012/03/msg00076.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-games/2012/03/msg00076.html</A>
+
+
+I wonder if we could enable for now SSE2, till upstream/somebody has a
+better fix : for now, all SSE2 cpus crash. Enabling SSE2 it will only
+crash on non-SSE2 cpus (older than 10 years)
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+<PRE>On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Jose Jorge &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lists.jjorge at free.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 04/12/2012 13:21, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:10 PM, AL13N&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The code should really be complied but only enabled at runtime if it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> available. PulseAudio does this. It's more of a pain to code for but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> does make like easier for distributions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But yeah, short term fix, nuke the test, and as a meme says, keep calm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and carry on.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is not only a test, it is a crash.
+</I>
+It is a crash because the code says to crash if there is no sse2.
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but, do ALL recent i586 CPU's have SSE2? what about the embedded and VIA
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cpu's and the likes?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE2#CPUs_supporting_SSE2">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE2#CPUs_supporting_SSE2</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The test is that it refuses to run if the lib is not using sse2 while
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it could (slowly).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The clanSWRender lib needs to be fixed to have sse2 support on sse2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> system and not on non sse2 systems so that we can enable it but that's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something unrelated to dropping this test.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, the clanSWRender has only a SSE2 implementation because no one wants to
+</I>&gt;<i> write a SW render which is too slow.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-games/2012/03/msg00076.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-games/2012/03/msg00076.html</A>
+</I>
+The message complains that your CPU has SSE2 but it can not use it as
+clanSWRender was built without support from it.
+How can it be built without support for SSE2 if it is not optional ?
+
+&gt;<i> I wonder if we could enable for now SSE2, till upstream/somebody has a
+</I>&gt;<i> better fix : for now, all SSE2 cpus crash. Enabling SSE2 it will only crash
+</I>&gt;<i> on non-SSE2 cpus (older than 10 years)
+</I>
+The crash is in the app, are there other apps using clanSWRender which
+are working fine without SSE2 but would crash if clanSWRender had SSE2
+support?
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+<PRE>On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Jose Jorge &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lists.jjorge at free.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 04/12/2012 13:21, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:10 PM, AL13N&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The code should really be complied but only enabled at runtime if it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> available. PulseAudio does this. It's more of a pain to code for but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> does make like easier for distributions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But yeah, short term fix, nuke the test, and as a meme says, keep calm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and carry on.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is not only a test, it is a crash.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is a crash because the code says to crash if there is no sse2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but, do ALL recent i586 CPU's have SSE2? what about the embedded and VIA
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cpu's and the likes?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE2#CPUs_supporting_SSE2">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE2#CPUs_supporting_SSE2</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The test is that it refuses to run if the lib is not using sse2 while
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it could (slowly).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The clanSWRender lib needs to be fixed to have sse2 support on sse2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> system and not on non sse2 systems so that we can enable it but that's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> something unrelated to dropping this test.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No, the clanSWRender has only a SSE2 implementation because no one wants to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> write a SW render which is too slow.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-games/2012/03/msg00076.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-games/2012/03/msg00076.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The message complains that your CPU has SSE2 but it can not use it as
+</I>&gt;<i> clanSWRender was built without support from it.
+</I>&gt;<i> How can it be built without support for SSE2 if it is not optional ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I wonder if we could enable for now SSE2, till upstream/somebody has a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> better fix : for now, all SSE2 cpus crash. Enabling SSE2 it will only crash
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on non-SSE2 cpus (older than 10 years)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The crash is in the app, are there other apps using clanSWRender which
+</I>&gt;<i> are working fine without SSE2 but would crash if clanSWRender had SSE2
+</I>&gt;<i> support?
+</I>
+So, reading more about it, clanSWRender is a software renderer instead
+of using one of the opengl ones
+Why would an application need it? Is it faster than using for example
+mesa's software rendering?
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+&gt;<i> Le 03/12/2012 23:42, zezinho a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Trying to launch openalchemist gave me a crash because Clanlib2 uses
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> SSE2 on SSE2 systems for software rendering, while we disabled it at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> configure.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What should we do? I think enabling it is better, as all i586 CPU with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> less than 10 years come with SSE2. But our policy forbids it ;-)
+</I>&gt;<i> Cool. Now we have software crashing because they don't use available
+</I>&gt;<i> features, what a nice idea...
+</I>
+Recent CPUs also all come out with x86_64 support, so the i586 port is
+basically only used for older CPUs.
+It makes sense to not enable SSE* optimizations for i586, to be
+compatible with Geode/VIA/etc processors.
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+<PRE>Le 20/11/2012 19:10, Guillaume Rousse a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 20/11/2012 01:07, Christiaan Welvaart a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> guillomovitch &lt;guillomovitch&gt; 9.9.2-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 316758
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - sync with fedora spec, for easier maintainance:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the real files now live outside the chroot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It looks like this overwrote my /var/lib/named/etc/named.conf with a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> default version so all zones were disabled. I had to restore the config
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> file from backup. Not sure how this happened, though.
+</I>&gt;<i> The real file should have been moved to /etc/named.conf, whereas it was
+</I>&gt;<i> previously just a symlink. As it happens during %pre stage, tough, I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> not sure it will prevent overrun by default configuration files, indeed.
+</I>&gt;<i> If that's the case, I should rather use a versioned trigger to handle
+</I>&gt;<i> this change.
+</I>I just turned the pre-installation scriptlet into a versioned trigger on
+old release, so as to fix the issue.
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+BOFH excuse #274:
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+</I>&gt;<i> Date: 2012-12-04 14:22:38 +0100 (Tue, 04 Dec 2012)
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Author: pterjan
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Date: 2012-12-04 14:22:38 +0100 (Tue, 04 Dec 2012)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Allow setting some env variables to define and default to setting PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL and PERL_AUTOINSTALL to --skipdeps
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+</I>&gt;<i> Why is this in iurt?
+</I>
+Because rebuild of the distro was strongly slowed down due to this
+(current build is running with default timeout meaning that each perl
+package which had this problem caused us to lose 6 hours) so
+preventing it from happening in iurt is something I want whatever is
+done in general. I have also added some code in iurt to detect stalled
+builds.
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+&gt;<i> Shouldn't it be the default in our default rpmbuild setup?
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> writes:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Revision: 6562
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Author: pterjan
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Date: 2012-12-04 14:22:38 +0100 (Tue, 04 Dec 2012)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Allow setting some env variables to define and default to setting PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL and PERL_AUTOINSTALL to --skipdeps
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why is this in iurt?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Because rebuild of the distro was strongly slowed down due to this
+</I>&gt;<i> (current build is running with default timeout meaning that each perl
+</I>&gt;<i> package which had this problem caused us to lose 6 hours) so
+</I>&gt;<i> preventing it from happening in iurt is something I want whatever is
+</I>&gt;<i> done in general. I have also added some code in iurt to detect stalled
+</I>&gt;<i> builds.
+</I>
+But will the timeout be big enough to let WebKit link go through? :-)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Shouldn't it be the default in our default rpmbuild setup?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Probably
+</I>
+Maybe we should have a macro for &quot;perl Makefile.PL&quot; with your variables
+exported, if this is where the hang happened.
+
+perl-HTML-Parser even has the following...
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+# compile with default options (prompt() checks for STDIN being a terminal).
+# yes to not ask for automate rebuild
+yes | %{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
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+&gt;<i> Le samedi 24 novembre 2012 17:25:02, JA Magall&#243;n a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you can post your video test collection somewhere, I can try to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> see if totem works for me with them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry for the delay. I have uploaded a kit (33 files 500MB) of videos on
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/demos/">http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/demos/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some types of videos are given with the command file
+</I>&gt;<i> $ ls | while read f;do file $f;done|awk -F: '{print $2 &quot;:&quot; $1}' | sort
+</I>&gt;<i> Some formats 19/9 are displayed at 4/3 ratio.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As I said previously VLC works fine in every case.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Sorry for the delay...
+In my case, all play in totem except SWF files.
+The only problem I saw was some chopping with audio in a couple videos,
+the ballmer_dance one and the casseaur.mov.
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+&gt;<i> On 11/24/2012 09:49 PM, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Le samedi 24 novembre 2012 17:25:02, JA Magall&#243;n a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;If you can post your video test collection somewhere, I can try to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;see if totem works for me with them.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Sorry for the delay. I have uploaded a kit (33 files 500MB) of videos on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;<A HREF="http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/demos/">http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/demos/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Some types of videos are given with the command file
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;$ ls | while read f;do file $f;done|awk -F: '{print $2 &quot;:&quot; $1}' | sort
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Some formats 19/9 are displayed at 4/3 ratio.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;As I said previously VLC works fine in every case.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry for the delay...
+</I>&gt;<i> In my case, all play in totem except SWF files.
+</I>&gt;<i> The only problem I saw was some chopping with audio in a couple videos,
+</I>&gt;<i> the ballmer_dance one and the casseaur.mov.
+</I>
+Please file bugs upstream in case it doesn't play nicely. If it
+complains about missing plugins, then file @ Mageia.
+
+--
+Regards,
+Olav
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+ <B>Hugo Pereira Da Costa</B>
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+<PRE>On 12/04/2012 04:41 PM, Robert Fox wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 14:30 +0100, Hugo Pereira Da Costa wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 12/04/2012 02:23 PM, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 12:51 +0100, Hugo Pereira Da Costa wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 12/4/2012 1:25 PM, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> When using Evolution under KDE - certain elements do not show up until I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> move the mouse over them (see snapshot)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is this a theme issue?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This also happens in Libreoffice during the printing dialog - many
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> elements in the window re missing until I move the mouse over them . . .
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Could you post the version you have of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - evolution
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - oxygen-gtk3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - gtk3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks !
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hugo
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> evolution-3.6.2-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nautilus-sendto-evolution-3.6.0-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> evolution-data-server-3.6.2-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> evolution-webcal-2.32.0-4.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64oxygen-gtk3-1.1.1-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> oxygen-gtk3-1.1.1-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> caribou-gtk3-0.4.4.2-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ibus-gtk3-1.4.99.20121109-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64canberra-gtk3_0-0.29-2.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packagekit-gtk3-module-0.8.6-3.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64oxygen-gtk3-1.1.1-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64webkitgtk3.0_0-1.10.1-3.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ibus-ui-gtk3-1.4.99.20121109-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> oxygen-gtk3-1.1.1-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64javascriptcoregtk3.0_0-1.10.1-3.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64avahi-ui-gtk3_0-0.6.31-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> adwaita-gtk3-theme-3.6.2-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64spice-client-gtk3.0_4-0.14-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks !
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Almost there :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just missing gtk3 libs, which should be something like gtk+-3_0-3.xxx
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'll try to reproduce here and investigate.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is 'likely' a theme related issue, triggered by 'misbehaving'
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> evolution.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hugo (oxygen dev)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64gtk+2.0_0-2.24.13-2.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> libgtk+2.0_0-2.24.13-2.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64gtk+-x11-2.0_0-2.24.13-2.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64gtk+3_0-3.6.2-4.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> libgtk+-x11-2.0_0-2.24.13-2.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> gtk+2.0-2.24.13-2.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> gtk+3.0-3.6.2-4.mga3
+</I>Hi Robert,
+so here with my customized mga2 box, and after having upgraded
+- evolution to 3.6.2 (like you)
+- oxygen-gtk3 (either 1.1.1 or trunk, no difference)
+- gtk+3.0 to 3.6.1,
+I cannot reproduce the issue.
+Might also be a cairo issue.
+
+I'll try:
+- update gtk+3.0 to 3.6.2 (like you)
+- update cairo to whatever version is shipped in mga3/cauldron
+
+will keep you posted.
+Note: it might also be a driver issue
+Does turning on/off kwin compositing (desktop effects) change anything ?
+
+Ultimately, you might as well file a bug either to bugs.kde.org (product
+oxygen, component oxygen-gtk3) and/or to bugs.mageia.org
+
+Cheers,
+
+Hugo
+Hugo
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>On 12/05/2012 11:23 AM, Hugo Pereira Da Costa wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 12/04/2012 04:41 PM, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 14:30 +0100, Hugo Pereira Da Costa wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 12/04/2012 02:23 PM, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 12:51 +0100, Hugo Pereira Da Costa wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 12/4/2012 1:25 PM, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> When using Evolution under KDE - certain elements do not show up
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> until I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> move the mouse over them (see snapshot)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is this a theme issue?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This also happens in Libreoffice during the printing dialog - many
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> elements in the window re missing until I move the mouse over
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> them . . .
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Could you post the version you have of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - evolution
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - oxygen-gtk3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - gtk3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks !
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hugo
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> evolution-3.6.2-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nautilus-sendto-evolution-3.6.0-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> evolution-data-server-3.6.2-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> evolution-webcal-2.32.0-4.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64oxygen-gtk3-1.1.1-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> oxygen-gtk3-1.1.1-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> caribou-gtk3-0.4.4.2-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ibus-gtk3-1.4.99.20121109-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64canberra-gtk3_0-0.29-2.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packagekit-gtk3-module-0.8.6-3.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64oxygen-gtk3-1.1.1-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64webkitgtk3.0_0-1.10.1-3.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ibus-ui-gtk3-1.4.99.20121109-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> oxygen-gtk3-1.1.1-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64javascriptcoregtk3.0_0-1.10.1-3.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64avahi-ui-gtk3_0-0.6.31-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> adwaita-gtk3-theme-3.6.2-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64spice-client-gtk3.0_4-0.14-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks !
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Almost there :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just missing gtk3 libs, which should be something like gtk+-3_0-3.xxx
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'll try to reproduce here and investigate.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is 'likely' a theme related issue, triggered by 'misbehaving'
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> evolution.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hugo (oxygen dev)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lib64gtk+2.0_0-2.24.13-2.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libgtk+2.0_0-2.24.13-2.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lib64gtk+-x11-2.0_0-2.24.13-2.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lib64gtk+3_0-3.6.2-4.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libgtk+-x11-2.0_0-2.24.13-2.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gtk+2.0-2.24.13-2.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gtk+3.0-3.6.2-4.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Robert,
+</I>&gt;<i> so here with my customized mga2 box, and after having upgraded
+</I>&gt;<i> - evolution to 3.6.2 (like you)
+</I>&gt;<i> - oxygen-gtk3 (either 1.1.1 or trunk, no difference)
+</I>&gt;<i> - gtk+3.0 to 3.6.1,
+</I>&gt;<i> I cannot reproduce the issue.
+</I>&gt;<i> Might also be a cairo issue.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll try:
+</I>&gt;<i> - update gtk+3.0 to 3.6.2 (like you)
+</I>&gt;<i> - update cairo to whatever version is shipped in mga3/cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> will keep you posted.
+</I>&gt;<i> Note: it might also be a driver issue
+</I>&gt;<i> Does turning on/off kwin compositing (desktop effects) change anything ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ultimately, you might as well file a bug either to bugs.kde.org
+</I>&gt;<i> (product oxygen, component oxygen-gtk3) and/or to bugs.mageia.org
+</I>Now, I checked with
+- latest gtk-3.0 (version 3.6.2, compiled manually),
+- latest glib (version 2.34.2 similar to mga3, and compiled manually),
+- libcairo2-1.12.8-1.mga3
+
+Still can't reproduce.
+
+See: <A HREF="http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/05/plasma-desktopeX2766.png">http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/05/plasma-desktopeX2766.png</A>
+Background is properly rendered, (unlike in your screenshot) and all
+buttons are present before hovering.
+So that I am clueless.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hugo
+</I>&gt;<i> Hugo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>I just did an update on my Cauldron VM, and one package cannot be installed due to a BAD signature. (Bad, not missing)
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+==
+error: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/lib64kcal_resourceblog4-4.9.80-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 80420f66: BAD
+The following package has bad signature:
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+Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) n
+==
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+--
+Johnny A. Solbu
+PGP key ID: 0xFA687324
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+&gt;<i> I just did an update on my Cauldron VM, and one package cannot be installed due to a BAD signature. (Bad, not missing)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ==
+</I>&gt;<i> error: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/lib64kcal_resourceblog4-4.9.80-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 80420f66: BAD
+</I>&gt;<i> The following package has bad signature:
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/lib64kcal_resourceblog4-4.9.80-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm: Invalid signature (NOT OK (fail): /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/lib64kcal_resourceblog4-4.9.80-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 80420f66: BAD)
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) n
+</I>
+The package looks fine on our server:
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at valstar</A> ~]$ rpm -Kv
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64kcal_resourceblog4-4.9.80-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64kcal_resourceblog4-4.9.80-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm:
+ Header V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 80420f66: OK
+ Header SHA1 digest: OK (bbedab7820641effb163d57badb6e1ccd8040b42)
+ V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 80420f66: OK
+ MD5 digest: OK (3a1a1f1da6a7a109176a1fa6e677a7eb)
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at valstar</A> ~]$ ll
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64kcal_resourceblog4-4.9.80-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+-rw-r--r-- 1 schedbot schedbot 34779 Nov 22 08:35
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64kcal_resourceblog4-4.9.80-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
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+</I>&gt;<i> Background is properly rendered, (unlike in your screenshot) and all
+</I>&gt;<i> buttons are present before hovering.
+</I>&gt;<i> So that I am clueless.
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+Just a shot in the dark - Eclipse has a similar problem with menus (menus
+are not displaying properly until &quot;walked over&quot; by a cursor) under KDE with
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+&gt;<i> Revision 6582 Author guillomovitch Date 2012-12-05 13:09:36 +0100 (Wed, 05
+</I>&gt;<i> Dec 2012)
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+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> initial import
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+</I>&gt;<i> Added Paths
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+</I>&gt;<i> rpm/urpmi/trunk/t/03pod.t
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+1) we already have t/pod.t
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+&gt;<i> Revision 6583 Author guillomovitch Date 2012-12-05 13:10:04 +0100 (Wed, 05
+</I>&gt;<i> Dec 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
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+</I>&gt;<i> use Test::Compile for more automation
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+&gt;&gt;<i> initial import
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Added Paths
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpm/urpmi/trunk/t/03pod.t
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+</I>&gt;<i> 1) we already have t/pod.t
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+3) I'm pretty sure you can get with a better log message such as
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+</I>&gt;<i> please remove evolution-webcal from Cauldron. It is so old that it was
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+No.
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+&gt;<i> The package looks fine on our server:
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+Weird. it looks fine when checking on mga2, but not on cauldron.
+I fixed it by deleting /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/ and ran it again. This time with no problem.
+
+oh well. Guess it was a urpmi-proxy hickup, which I installed and configured just prior to this error.
+
+&gt;<i> What mirror are you using?
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+</I>&gt;<i> please remove libtunepimp from cauldron. It is obsolete and orphan.
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+</I>I think we use now task-obsolete : it removes automaticaly obsoleted
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+&gt;<i> Le 05/12/2012 12:47, G&#246;tz Waschk a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Everyone,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> please remove libtunepimp from cauldron. It is obsolete and orphan.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think we use now task-obsolete : it removes automaticaly obsoleted
+</I>&gt;<i> packages from cauldron.
+</I>OK will do. What will happen to obsolete debug packages?
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See: <A HREF="http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/05/plasma-desktopeX2766.png">http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/05/plasma-desktopeX2766.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Background is properly rendered, (unlike in your screenshot)
+</I>&gt;<i> and all buttons are present before hovering.
+</I>&gt;<i> So that I am clueless.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a shot in the dark - Eclipse has a similar problem with menus
+</I>&gt;<i> (menus are not displaying properly until &quot;walked over&quot; by a cursor)
+</I>&gt;<i> under KDE with the compositing enabled. It is a GTK bug according to
+</I>&gt;<i> the Eclipse bug tracker. With the compositing/effects off, everything
+</I>&gt;<i> works OK. Could this be the same issue?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Jan
+</I>
+I have tested with Desktop Effects turned off - unfortunately, it didn't
+help. Maybe it has something to do with the graphics driver (Intel 3000
+embedded chipset - Thinkpad X220)
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+I will file a bug.
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+Thx,
+Robert
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+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; initial import
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Added Paths
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; rpm/urpmi/trunk/t/03pod.t
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1) we already have t/pod.t
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2) only the first tests are numbered because others rely on them
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) I'm pretty sure you can get with a better log message such as
+</I>&gt;<i> explaining the purpose...
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+4) tests do not need to be executable
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+&gt;<i> On 5 December 2012 14:09, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> initial import
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Added Paths
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpm/urpmi/trunk/t/03pod.t
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1) we already have t/pod.t
+</I>Indeed, I missed it at first glance. It's broken, tough, as it don't
+find the perl module directory.
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2) only the first tests are numbered because others rely on them
+</I>Ordering is not strictly needed, but I personnaly prefer to run such
+kind of dumb generic tests before application-specific tests. Would you
+be OK with the three pod-related tests renamed as:
+pod-syntax.t
+pod-coverage.t
+pod-spelling.t
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+&gt;&gt;<i> 3) I'm pretty sure you can get with a better log message such as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> explaining the purpose...
+</I>&quot;leverage the need of human peer-review on mailing lists for basic pod
+syntax errors&quot; :) ?
+
+&gt;<i> 4) tests do not need to be executable
+</I>As any other perl program. But in this case, the shell bang in the first
+line is perfectly useless.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed, I missed it at first glance. It's broken, tough, as it don't find
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+&gt;<i> On 5 December 2012 14:43, Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1) we already have t/pod.t
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed, I missed it at first glance. It's broken, tough, as it don't find
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the perl module directory.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just run it: it does work.
+</I>&gt;<i> It did find errors in the past. Just tested again.
+</I>[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillaume at beria</A> trunk]$ perl t/pod.t
+1..1
+not ok 1 - POD test for lib
+# Failed test 'POD test for lib'
+# at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.3/Test/Pod.pm line 182.
+# lib does not exist
+# Looks like you failed 1 test of 1.
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillaume at beria</A> trunk]$ prove t/pod.t
+t/pod.t .. 1/1
+# Failed test 'POD test for lib'
+# at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.3/Test/Pod.pm line 182.
+# lib does not exist
+# Looks like you failed 1 test of 1.
+t/pod.t .. Dubious, test returned 1 (wstat 256, 0x100)
+Failed 1/1 subtests
+
+Test Summary Report
+-------------------
+t/pod.t (Wstat: 256 Tests: 1 Failed: 1)
+ Failed test: 1
+ Non-zero exit status: 1
+Files=1, Tests=1, 0 wallclock secs ( 0.05 usr 0.01 sys + 0.06 cusr
+0.00 csys = 0.12 CPU)
+Result: FAIL
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+<PRE>On 5 December 2012 15:56, Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1) we already have t/pod.t
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed, I missed it at first glance. It's broken, tough, as it don't find
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the perl module directory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just run it: it does work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It did find errors in the past. Just tested again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillaume at beria</A> trunk]$ perl t/pod.t
+</I>&gt;<i> 1..1
+</I>&gt;<i> not ok 1 - POD test for lib
+</I>&gt;<i> # Failed test 'POD test for lib'
+</I>&gt;<i> # at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.3/Test/Pod.pm line 182.
+</I>&gt;<i> # lib does not exist
+</I>&gt;<i> # Looks like you failed 1 test of 1.
+</I>
+...
+
+# &lt;breaking POD in urpm::install&gt;&gt;
+# make test
+(...)
+^C
+# perl t/pod.t
+1..37
+ok 1 - POD test for blib/script/urpmq (no pod)
+ok 2 - POD test for blib/script/rpm-find-leaves (no pod)
+ok 3 - POD test for blib/script/urpmf (no pod)
+ok 4 - POD test for blib/sbin/urpmi.update (no pod)
+ok 5 - POD test for blib/sbin/rurpme (no pod)
+ok 6 - POD test for blib/sbin/rurpmi (no pod)
+ok 7 - POD test for blib/sbin/urpmi.removemedia (no pod)
+ok 8 - POD test for blib/sbin/urpme (no pod)
+ok 9 - POD test for blib/sbin/urpmi.addmedia (no pod)
+ok 10 - POD test for blib/sbin/urpmi (no pod)
+ok 11 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm.pm
+ok 12 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/media.pm
+ok 13 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/prompt.pm
+not ok 14 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/install.pm
+# Failed test 'POD test for blib/lib/urpm/install.pm'
+# at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.3/Test/Pod.pm line 182.
+# blib/lib/urpm/install.pm (376): You forgot a '=back' before '=head1'
+# blib/lib/urpm/install.pm (378): '=item' outside of any '=over'
+ok 15 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/sys.pm
+ok 16 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/get_pkgs.pm
+ok 17 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/util.pm
+ok 18 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/xml_info_pkg.pm
+ok 19 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/removable.pm
+ok 20 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/bug_report.pm
+ok 21 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/select.pm
+ok 22 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/parallel_ka_run.pm (no pod)
+ok 23 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/signature.pm
+ok 24 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/cfg.pm
+ok 25 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/lock.pm
+ok 26 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/parallel.pm (no pod)
+ok 27 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/msg.pm
+ok 28 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/mirrors.pm
+ok 29 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/main_loop.pm
+ok 30 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/ldap.pm
+ok 31 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/cdrom.pm
+ok 32 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/download.pm
+ok 33 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/args.pm
+ok 34 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/parallel_ssh.pm (no pod)
+ok 35 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/md5sum.pm
+ok 36 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/xml_info.pm
+ok 37 - POD test for blib/lib/urpm/orphans.pm
+# Looks like you failed 1 test of 37.
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+<PRE>Le 05/12/2012 12:49, G&#246;tz Waschk a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi Everybody,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please remove evolution-webcal from Cauldron. It is so old that it was
+</I>&gt;<i> removed from Fedora 4 years ago.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards, G&#246;tz
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+FYI, I just removed it from task-gnome.
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+<PRE>Le 05/12/2012 16:04, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> # &lt;breaking POD in urpm::install&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> # make test
+</I>&gt;<i> (...)
+</I>&gt;<i> ^C
+</I>&gt;<i> # perl t/pod.t
+</I>&gt;<i> 1..37
+</I>&gt;<i> ok 1 - POD test for blib/script/urpmq (no pod)
+</I>It works because the 'blib' directory has been created and populated,
+whereas just passing the 'urpm' directory name make the test
+context-independant.
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+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 5. December 2012 13.51, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The package looks fine on our server:
+</I>&gt;<i> Weird. it looks fine when checking on mga2, but not on cauldron.
+</I>&gt;<i> I fixed it by deleting /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/ and ran it again. This time
+</I>&gt;<i> with no problem.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> oh well. Guess it was a urpmi-proxy hickup, which I installed and configured
+</I>&gt;<i> just prior to this error.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What mirror are you using?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de
+</I>
+by any chance did you have an out of disk space on that directory? it might be
+possible that that could be an urpmi-proxy problem from that.
+
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+installed and used without manual configuration (or exactly at that time). or
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+Hi,
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+I've installed cauldron in a vmware vm, and wanting to rebuild a rpm as a user in my /home I've setup the build environment as usual (I've done that a lot of times in the past and even a few weeks ago). For me everything is OK but a src.rpm install gives this output :
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jerome at localhost</A> T&#233;l&#233;chargements]$ LC_ALL=C rpm -i getmail-4.35.0-1.mga3.src.rpm
+error: failed to create directory %{_topdir}: / /home/jerome/rpm: Permission denied
+error: getmail-4.35.0-1.mga3.src.rpm cannot be installed
+
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+The topdir is correctly defined in the .rpmmacros file :
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jerome at localhost</A> ~]$ rpm --showrc | grep topdir
+-14: _builddir %{_topdir}/BUILD
+-14: _buildrootdir %{_topdir}/BUILDROOT
+-14: _rpmdir %{_topdir}/RPMS
+-14: _sourcedir %{_topdir}/SOURCES
+-14: _specdir %{_topdir}/SPECS
+-14: _srcrpmdir %{_topdir}/SRPMS
+-14: _topdir /home/jerome/rpm
+-14: git_repository_cache %_topdir/%{name}.git
+
+
+
+The build tree is correctly created with the correct permissions :
+
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jerome at localhost</A> ~]$ ls -l /home/jerome | grep rpm
+drwxr-xr-x 9 jerome jerome &#160; &#160; 4096 d&#233;c. &#160; 5 23:02 rpm/
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jerome at localhost</A> ~]$ ls -l /home/jerome/rpm
+total 28
+drwxr-xr-x 2 jerome jerome 4096 d&#233;c. &#160; 5 23:02 BUILD/
+drwxr-xr-x 2 jerome jerome 4096 d&#233;c. &#160; 5 23:02 BUILDROOT/
+drwxr-xr-x 4 jerome jerome 4096 d&#233;c. &#160; 5 23:02 RPMS/
+drwxr-xr-x 2 jerome jerome 4096 d&#233;c. &#160; 5 23:02 SOURCES/
+drwxr-xr-x 2 jerome jerome 4096 d&#233;c. &#160; 5 23:02 SPECS/
+drwxr-xr-x 2 jerome jerome 4096 d&#233;c. &#160; 5 23:02 SRPMS/
+drwxr-xr-x 2 jerome jerome 4096 d&#233;c. &#160; 5 23:02 tmp/
+
+
+
+So I don't understand what is wrong. Any idea ?
+
+
+Thanks.&#160;
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+-----Mensaje original-----
+From: Damien Lallement
+Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 10:15 AM
+To: Mageia development mailing-list
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+
+Le 05/12/2012 12:49, G&#246;tz Waschk a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi Everybody,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please remove evolution-webcal from Cauldron. It is so old that it was
+</I>&gt;<i> removed from Fedora 4 years ago.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards, G&#246;tz
+</I>
+FYI, I just removed it from task-gnome.
+--
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+twitter: damsweb - IRC: damsweb/coincoin
+Is posible import evolution-mapi? Fedora version is ok
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+&gt;<i> by any chance did you have an out of disk space on that directory?
+</I>
+No. The urpmi-proxy partition have 435G free space, and the /var patition on the cauldron install have 5,1G free space. (Which actually is the / partition.)
+
+And I did not install this thing manually, whatever it is. I've never heard of it until this failure.
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+<PRE>On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Luis Vicente Castillo Corbella
+&gt;<i> Is possible to import evolution-mapi? The Fedora would be version is ok.
+</I>It would be possible to import it but not to test it without a Microsoft server.
+
+Regards, G&#246;tz
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+&gt;<i> I've installed cauldron in a vmware vm, and wanting to rebuild a rpm as a user in my /home I've setup the build environment as usual (I've done that a lot of times in the past and even a few weeks ago). For me everything is OK but a src.rpm install gives this output :
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+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jerome at localhost</A> T&#233;l&#233;chargements]$ LC_ALL=C rpm -i getmail-4.35.0-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> error: failed to create directory %{_topdir}: / /home/jerome/rpm: Permission denied
+</I>&gt;<i> error: getmail-4.35.0-1.mga3.src.rpm cannot be installed
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+That message implies that it's trying to create a directory called &quot;/
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+would be expected. It looks to me like there's a configuration
+problem somewhere.
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dan
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+<PRE><A HREF="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dfsee-support/message/14485">http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dfsee-support/message/14485</A> provides
+details of the problems.
+
+To summarize the problems resulting from selection of &quot;use free space&quot; in
+HTTP installation of latest Cauldron completed within the hour:
+
+1-the table chain was not kept in logical order matching the physical layout,
+putting sda26-8 ahead of sda23-5.
+
+2-the formula used to create the partitions already existing was not
+maintained for the creation of the new ones for Mageia's use.
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+3-existing swap space was not reused, along with no such option
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+As to #1 &amp; #2, are these behaviors attributable to an upstream partitioning
+utility incorporated by the installer? If so, which, and are the behaviors
+among multiple options what the installer might be able to choose instead?
+
+
+Unrelated observation: BS key on standard US keyboard does not BS. I had to
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+words are persuasive.&quot; Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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+ Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
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+Felix Miata *** <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</A>
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+ <B>G&#246;tz Waschk</B>
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+let's drop evolution-sharp from the distribution. AFAIK nothing needs
+it anymore, it is from Gnome 2.x and was abadoned upstream.
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+Regards, G&#246;tz
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+All may not be aware of that, but there're several insteresting saved
+searches you can use:
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+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=saved-searches">https://bugs.mageia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=saved-searches</A>
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+You can register (&quot;share&quot;) them so that they appears at bottom of your
+bugzilla view.
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+For junior packagers, there's a list of easy tasks:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=Junior_job&amp;sharer_id=81">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=Junior_job&amp;sharer_id=81</A>
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+I am looking for a mentor to help me with packaging for Mageia. I have
+interests in scientific softwares and I am creating a SWI-Prolog package.
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+I applied my name and more informations in packaging apprentice
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+&gt;<i> dams &lt;dams&gt; 1.4.0.7-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 327386
+</I>&gt;<i> - new tarball
+</I>
+uh????
+WTF, the version hasn't changed ????
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+&gt;<i> - add a patch to fix build issue with flex (from opensuse)
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix category in .desktop
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+</I>&gt;<i> On 6 December 2012 15:36, dams &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dams &lt;dams&gt; 1.4.0.7-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 327386
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - new tarball
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> uh????
+</I>&gt;<i> WTF, the version hasn't changed ????
+</I>
+WTF, you're right, I made a huge mistake...
+It's a new snapshot because my git clone command was wrong (cf
+changelog). It's 1.4.0.6 and not 1.4.0.7 (so I understand why my tar.xz
+was not the same)...
+Let me fix that! \o/
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - add a patch to fix build issue with flex (from opensuse)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - fix category in .desktop
+</I>--
+Damien Lallement
+twitter: damsweb - IRC: damsweb/coincoin
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+ <B>Jerome Quelin</B>
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+<PRE>Hi,
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+Would it be possible to add a new environment variable for rpmbuild to
+use when building rpms?
+
+new variable: PERL_AUTOINSTALL=--skipdeps
+
+This would prevent Perl modules using autoinstall to prompt for
+downloading missing prereqs / optional deps:
+- If missing prereqs, the build would fail cleanly.
+- If missing optional dep, the build would proceed instead of failing.
+
+This should be best done before launching mass rebuild, as I found
+several such failures that could be avoided altogether if this nasty
+module wasn't used.
+
+==&gt; who can do that? what should be patched?
+
+Thanks,
+J&#233;r&#244;me
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+&gt;<i> Would it be possible to add a new environment variable for rpmbuild to
+</I>&gt;<i> use when building rpms?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> new variable: PERL_AUTOINSTALL=--skipdeps
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This would prevent Perl modules using autoinstall to prompt for
+</I>&gt;<i> downloading missing prereqs / optional deps:
+</I>&gt;<i> - If missing prereqs, the build would fail cleanly.
+</I>&gt;<i> - If missing optional dep, the build would proceed instead of failing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This should be best done before launching mass rebuild, as I found
+</I>&gt;<i> several such failures that could be avoided altogether if this nasty
+</I>&gt;<i> module wasn't used.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ==&gt; who can do that? what should be patched?
+</I>
+rpm-mageia-setup-build
+svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/rpm/rpm-setup/trunk">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/rpm/rpm-setup/trunk</A>
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+&gt;<i> For junior packagers, there's a list of easy tasks:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=Junior_job&amp;sharer_id=81">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=Junior_job&amp;sharer_id=81</A>
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+When you work one of these packages, assign the bug to yourself, so others know that someone is working on them.
+That way we avoid having two people working on the same bug, saving everyone some time. :-)=
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would it be possible to add a new environment variable for rpmbuild to
+</I>&gt;<i> use when building rpms?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> new variable: PERL_AUTOINSTALL=--skipdeps
+</I>
+If it's needed in %install, it can be added to %__spec_install_pre :
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/rpm/rpm-setup/trunk/build.macros.in?revision=6508&amp;view=markup#l288">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/rpm/rpm-setup/trunk/build.macros.in?revision=6508&amp;view=markup#l288</A>
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+Is it needed in %prep or %build ?
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+<PRE>Le 03/12/12 22:49,Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+&gt;<i> Le 02/12/12 13:40,Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 01/12/12 02:30,Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 29/11/12 11:04,Malo nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 27/11/12 23:02, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 26/11/12 17:34,Malo nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry for the wrong title ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 26/11/12 17:30, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Total = 1338
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Today, 1273 remains to be changed. Thanks!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Keep up the good work!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This morning, 1182 are left.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Tonight, only 1103 remain, thanks notably to Olav.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Let's pass under 1000 by tomorrow night!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks to the effort of many, the number of remaining packages is now of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 972. Many remain in Video.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Today's number is 847. It looks good, but still many in Office or Video
+</I>&gt;<i> need to move. Keep at it!!
+</I>
+Today, the number of remaining packages is 749. Thanks.
+
+A little more effort is required! If you have packages in Graphics or
+Office, please move them to the appropriate subgroup.
+
+Thanks!
+--
+Malo
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+&gt;<i> Version : 3.7.0 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release : 1.mga3 Build Date: Thu Dec 6 22:15:37 2012
+</I>
+Shouldn't release have been 0.rc8.mga3 instead?
+
+&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 3.7.0-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 327540
+</I>&gt;<i> - sync with kernel-3.7.0-0.rc8.1.mga3
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+&gt;<i> On 6 December 2012 22:16, tmb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Version : 3.7.0 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Release : 1.mga3 Build Date: Thu Dec 6 22:15:37 2012
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shouldn't release have been 0.rc8.mga3 instead?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 3.7.0-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 327540
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - sync with kernel-3.7.0-0.rc8.1.mga3
+</I>
+yep, but I didn't bother changing the setup for now.
+I plan to merge this package back with core kernel
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>&#160;
+</I>&gt;<i> Would it be possible to add a new environment variable for rpmbuild to
+</I>&gt;<i> use when building rpms?
+</I>&gt;<i>&#160;
+</I>&gt;<i> new variable: &#160; PERL_AUTOINSTALL=--skipdeps
+</I>&gt;<i>&#160;
+</I>&gt;<i> This would prevent Perl modules using autoinstall to prompt for
+</I>&gt;<i> downloading missing prereqs / optional deps:
+</I>&gt;<i> - If missing prereqs, the build would fail cleanly.
+</I>&gt;<i> - If missing optional dep, the build would proceed instead of failing.
+</I>&gt;<i>&#160;
+</I>&gt;<i> This should be best done before launching mass rebuild, as I found
+</I>&gt;<i> several such failures that could be avoided altogether if this nasty
+</I>&gt;<i> module wasn't used.
+</I>&gt;<i>&#160;
+</I>&gt;<i> ==&gt; who can do that? what should be patched?
+</I>&gt;<i>&#160;
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i> J&#233;r&#244;me
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+
+Why not a new %perl macro for build purpose ?
+
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+%perl export PERL_AUTOINSTALL=--skipdeps ; \
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+&gt;<i> Today, the number of remaining packages is 749. Thanks.
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+So Cauldron is now in &quot;soft freeze&quot; for Mga3 - beta1 release
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+Please try to avoid doing breakages until beta1 is out in case
+we need to do a resync
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+ennael, frozen repo is synced, and mozldap-6.0.7-1.mga3 last
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So Cauldron is now in &quot;soft freeze&quot; for Mga3 - beta1 release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please try to avoid doing breakages until beta1 is out in case
+</I>&gt;<i> we need to do a resync
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ennael, frozen repo is synced, and mozldap-6.0.7-1.mga3 last
+</I>&gt;<i> package synced in.
+</I>
+Gah, drakx-installer-images-1.85-6.mga3.nonfree is obviously
+the last one synced.
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+<PRE>I just tried to do a network upgrade using the boot.iso.
+After hitting the upgrade OK button, it sits there for ever.
+This is on a VBOX
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+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mga3%20-%20Beta1%20%22soft%20freeze%22%20in%20Cauldron&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEtas6wWztss%3DpY_KXKSo%3D%3DP4cJn5nT3TBMW-Hos9x3AKUA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+ <I>Fri Dec 7 08:07:41 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 7 December 2012 03:42, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> So Cauldron is now in &quot;soft freeze&quot; for Mga3 - beta1 release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please try to avoid doing breakages until beta1 is out in case
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we need to do a resync
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ennael, frozen repo is synced, and mozldap-6.0.7-1.mga3 last
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> package synced in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Gah, drakx-installer-images-1.85-6.mga3.nonfree is obviously
+</I>&gt;<i> the last one synced.
+</I>
+Please resync just to be sure that stage1 uses latest kmod.
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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 01:29:01AM +0100, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thursday 6. December 2012 22.51, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Today, the number of remaining packages is 749. Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How do you get that number?
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it a process we can use to check our own packages?
+</I>
+See attached for updated list.
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+Regards,
+Olav
+-------------- next part --------------
+Sound
+
+anssi festvox-suopuhe-lj festvox-suopuhe-common,festvox-suopuhe-lj
+anssi festvox-suopuhe-mv festvox-suopuhe-mv
+anssi guayadeque guayadeque
+anssi lavennin lavennin
+colin alsa-oss alsa-oss
+colin lastfm-player lastfm-player
+colin libcanberra canberra-common,libcanberra
+colin ossp ossp
+colin paprefs paprefs
+colin pavucontrol pavucontrol
+colin webrtc-audio-processing webrtc-audio-processing
+dmorgan gstreamer0.10-espeak gstreamer0.10-espeak
+dmorgan jackit jackit-example-clients
+fwang libmusicbrainz5 libmusicbrainz5
+grenoya vorbisspi vorbisspi
+gw666 audacious-dumb audacious-dumb
+gw666 audacious-skins audacious-skins
+jquelin mpd mpd
+juancho amarok amarok,amarok-handbook
+juancho konvertible konvertible
+juancho solfege solfege
+juancho taglib-extras taglib-extras
+matteo qastools qastools
+mitya farstream gstreamer0.10-farstream
+neoclust csync csync
+nobody festlex festlex,festlex-CMU,festlex-POSLEX
+nobody festvox festvox,festvox-kallpc-common,festvox-kallpc16k,festvox-kallpc8k,festvox-kedlpc-common,festvox-kedlpc16k,festvox-kedlpc8k
+nobody freealut freealut,lib64freealut0,libfreealut0
+nobody game-music-emu game-music-emu
+nobody id3lib id3lib
+nobody kradio kradio
+nobody ladspa ladspa
+nobody libdca libdca,libdca-tools
+nobody libfreebob libfreebob
+nobody mad mad
+nobody mumble mumble,mumble-11x,mumble-plugins,mumble-server
+nobody opencore-amr opencore-amr
+nobody phonon-gstreamer phonon-gstreamer
+nobody phonon-xine phonon-xine
+nobody pocketsphinx gstreamer0.10-pocketsphinx,pocketsphinx
+nobody pyid3lib pyid3lib
+nobody snack python-snack,snack,tcl-snack
+nobody speex speex
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+obgr_seneca kmetronome kmetronome
+obgr_seneca songwrite2 songwrite2
+obgr_seneca streamripper streamripper
+obgr_seneca vorbis-tools vorbis-tools
+obgr_seneca vorbisgain vorbisgain
+shikamaru ardour ardour
+shikamaru qsynth qsynth
+shikamaru rakarrack rakarrack
+shlomif audiokonverter audiokonverter
+shlomif gstreamer0.10-decoders gstreamer0.10-decoders-audio
+shlomif gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-cdparanoia,gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
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+wally radiotray radiotray
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+malo ghc ghc-doc
+malo ocsigenserver ocsigenserver-doc
+mitya gsl gsl-doc
+zezinho clanlib0.8 clanlib0.8-docs
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+dams grisbi grisbi
+fwang fox fox-example-apps
+fwang gnucash gnucash,gnucash-hbci,gnucash-ofx
+jquelin perl-Spreadsheet-ParseExcel perl-Spreadsheet-ParseExcel
+juancho libopensync-plugin-syncml libopensync-plugin-syncml
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+mikala textroom textroom
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+nobody libwpg libwpg
+nobody libwps libwps
+nobody link-grammar link-grammar
+nobody opengrade opengrade
+nobody planner planner
+nobody qalculate-gtk qalculate-gtk
+nobody skrooge skrooge
+nobody vym vym
+nobody wv wv
+nobody wv2 wv2
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+steletch monosim-qt monosim-qt
+stormi epdfview epdfview
+supp zfo-editor zfo-editor
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+wally labyrinth labyrinth
+wally tilitin tilitin
+zezinho celtx celtx,celtx-ca,celtx-cs,celtx-de,celtx-en-US,celtx-es-ES,celtx-fr,celtx-pt-BR
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+anssi pxsup2dast pxsup2dast
+anssi rtmpdump rtmpdump
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+anssi tvheadend tvheadend
+anssi vaapi-driver-fglrx vaapi-driver-fglrx
+anssi vdr-plugin-osdpip vdr-plugin-osdpip
+anssi vdradmin-am vdradmin-am
+anssi vdrsync vdrsync
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+dams guvcview guvcview
+dams imagination imagination
+dams luvcview luvcview
+dams wxcam wxcam
+dmorgan libnut libnut-utils
+dmorgan xavs xavs
+dmorgan xvidcap xvidcap
+eatdirt motion motion
+fwang gnome-subtitles gnome-subtitles
+hman xbmc-addon-xvdr xbmc-addon-xvdr
+juancho qeven qeven
+juancho smtube smtube
+nanardon dvdrip dvdrip
+nobody a52dec a52dec
+nobody dirac dirac,dirac-utils
+nobody dvbstream dvbstream
+nobody dvbtune dvbtune
+nobody dvd-slideshow dvd-slideshow
+nobody dvgrab dvgrab
+nobody gnash gnash-tools
+nobody kino kino
+nobody kmplayer kmplayer,kmplayer-npplayer
+nobody libquicktime libquicktime,libquicktime-dv,libquicktime-faad,libquicktime-lame,libquicktime-progs,libquicktime-x264
+nobody luciole luciole
+nobody me-tv me-tv
+nobody mjpegtools mjpegtools
+nobody mpeg2dec mpeg2dec
+nobody mpgtx mpgtx
+nobody nvtv nvtv
+nobody schroedinger schroedinger
+nobody smilutils smilutils
+nobody subtitlecomposer subtitlecomposer
+nobody transcode transcode
+nobody vcdimager vcdimager
+nobody vgrabbj vgrabbj
+nobody x264 x264
+nobody xvattr xvattr
+nobody zvbi lib64zvbi0,libzvbi0,zvbi
+obgr_seneca feff feff
+obgr_seneca ffmulticonverter ffmulticonverter
+obgr_seneca kubeplayer kubeplayer
+obgr_seneca ogmtools ogmtools
+obgr_seneca projectx projectx
+obgr_seneca smplayer-themes smplayer-themes
+ofaurax chaplin chaplin
+shlomif freeguide freeguide
+shlomif gstreamer0.10-decoders gstreamer0.10-decoders
+shlomif gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-libvisual
+shlomif gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-mpeg,gstreamer0.10-x264
+shlomif npapi-vlc npapi-vlc
+shlomif ps3mediaserver ps3mediaserver
+shlomif tv-fonts tv-fonts
+shlomif w_scan w_scan
+shlomif xine-ui xine-ui,xine-ui-aa,xine-ui-fb
+steletch themonospot-base themonospot-base
+steletch themonospot-console themonospot-console
+steletch themonospot-gui-gtk themonospot-gui-gtk
+steletch themonospot-gui-qt themonospot-gui-qt
+steletch themonospot-plugin-avi themonospot-plugin-avi
+steletch themonospot-plugin-mkv themonospot-plugin-mkv
+stormi gtk-recordmydesktop gtk-recordmydesktop
+vaci0 acidrip acidrip
+vaci0 arista arista
+vaci0 ffmpeg2theora ffmpeg2theora
+vaci0 subtitleripper subtitleripper
+wally gaupol gaupol
+wally tvkaistagui tvkaistagui
+
+
+Graphics
+
+? gcolor2 gcolor2
+? rawtherapee rawtherapee
+anaselli tuxpaint-config tuxpaint-config
+anaselli tuxpaint-stamps tuxpaint-stamps
+anssi sk1libs sk1libs
+anssi uniconvertor uniconvertor
+dams cimg cimg
+dams icoutils icoutils
+dams irrlicht irrlicht,irrlicht-doc,irrlicht-examples,irrlicht-media
+dams wings3d wings3d,wings3d-povray
+dmorgan aoi aoi
+dmorgan argyllcms argyllcms
+dmorgan clipart-openclipart clipart-openclipart
+dmorgan icclib icclib
+dmorgan jasper jasper
+dmorgan jbig2dec jbig2dec
+dmorgan jbigkit jbigkit
+dmorgan libicns libicns-utils
+dmorgan sane-frontends sane-frontends
+dmorgan sweethome3d sweethome3d,sweethome3d-3dmodels
+grenoya HDF HDF-util
+guillomovitch autopano-sift-C autopano-sift-C
+juancho kgraphviewer kgraphviewer,kgraphviewer-devel,lib64kgraphviewer3,libkgraphviewer3
+malo dot2tex dot2tex
+matteo clash clash
+matteo dbp-gimp dbp-gimp
+matteo gimp-plugin-bimp gimp-plugin-bimp
+matteo gimp-plugin-wavelet-decompose gimp-plugin-wavelet-decompose
+matteo gimp-plugin-wavelet-denoise gimp-plugin-wavelet-denoise
+matteo jp2a jp2a
+matteo kphotoalbum kphotoalbum
+matteo layerfx-gimp layerfx-gimp
+matteo mihphoto mihphoto
+matteo swftools swftools
+nanardon dxf2fig dxf2fig
+nanardon xv xv
+neoclust libprojectm libprojectm-data
+nobody animata animata
+nobody chbg chbg
+nobody compface compface
+nobody dcraw dcraw,dcraw-gimp2.0
+nobody enblend enblend
+nobody giftrans giftrans
+nobody gocr gocr
+nobody lcms lcms
+nobody lcms2 lcms2
+nobody libpano13 libpano13-tools
+nobody liquidlnf liquidlnf
+nobody mesa-demos glxinfo,mesa-demos
+nobody netpbm netpbm
+nobody opengl-games-utils opengl-games-utils
+nobody pandora gimp2-pandora,pandora
+nobody pdf2svg pdf2svg
+nobody plotutils lib64plotutils2,libplotutils2,plotutils
+nobody pngrewrite pngrewrite
+nobody potrace potrace
+nobody rapid-photo-downloader rapid-photo-downloader
+nobody sam2p sam2p
+nobody scrot scrot
+nobody synfigstudio synfigstudio
+nobody t1lib t1lib-config,t1lib-progs
+nobody task-scanning task-scanning
+nobody transfig transfig
+nobody ufraw ufraw,ufraw-gimp
+nobody unpaper unpaper
+nobody xmorph lib64morph0,lib64morph0-devel,libmorph0,libmorph0-devel,xmorph
+nobody xwpick xwpick
+obgr_seneca gpick gpick
+obgr_seneca mscgen mscgen
+obgr_seneca photo photo
+ofaurax agave agave
+ofaurax gnofract4d gnofract4d
+sander85 exif exif
+shlomif gimp gimp,gimp-python
+shlomif gimp-data-extras gimp-data-extras
+shlomif xli xli
+stewb zbar lib64zbar0,libzbar0,python-zbar,zbar
+stormi feh feh
+vaci0 gif2png gif2png
+vaci0 pencil-planner pencil-planner
+wally iec16022 iec16022
+wally jhead jhead
+wally osie osie
+wally pixelize pixelize
+wally pngnq pngnq
+wally ristretto ristretto
+wally zint zint,zint-qt
+
+
+Books/Other
+
+fwang gimp-help gimp-help,gimp-help-de,gimp-help-el,gimp-help-en,gimp-help-es,gimp-help-fi,gimp-help-fr,gimp-help-ja,gimp-help-ko,gimp-help-nn,gimp-help-ru,gimp-help-sl,gimp-help-sv,gimp-help-zh_CN
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So Cauldron is now in &quot;soft freeze&quot; for Mga3 - beta1 release
+</I>I thought it were done after Christmas :( I have some changes
+i haven't committed because in testing and not final at home
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+&gt;<i> Il 07/12/2012 03:39, Thomas Backlund ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So Cauldron is now in &quot;soft freeze&quot; for Mga3 - beta1 release
+</I>&gt;<i> I thought it were done after Christmas :( I have some changes
+</I>&gt;<i> i haven't committed because in testing and not final at home
+</I>&gt;<i> (livecd-creator and sankore), i don't think they breaks anything,
+</I>&gt;<i> but i cannot give my availability for sure before Christmas... sorry.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+No worries :)
+You are thinking about version freeze :)
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+This &quot;soft freeze&quot; is only &quot;enforced by mail&quot; to try and avoid big
+changes in cauldron until beta1 is out (~1 week) to make life
+easier for iso builders in case we need to redo / update some
+packages...
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> This &quot;soft freeze&quot; is only &quot;enforced by mail&quot; to try and avoid big
+</I>&gt;<i> changes in cauldron until beta1 is out (~1 week) to make life
+</I>&gt;<i> easier for iso builders in case we need to redo / update some
+</I>&gt;<i> packages...
+</I>Ah sorry :)
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+<PRE>On 07/12/12 00:29, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thursday 6. December 2012 22.51, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Today, the number of remaining packages is 749. Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How do you get that number?
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it a process we can use to check our own packages?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What about incorporating something like this on check.mageia.org?
+</I>
+You can have a look in rpmdrake, or here:
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+Nowadays, people are all using network on their computer.
+Upon installation or later.
+
+The fact is that Mageia doesn't have 'dhclient' installed by default
+(but available on DVDs).
+It's very annoying because if your are doing a DVD installation without
+keeping it, it won't be easy to configure network as you won't have an
+easy way to install 'dhclient'.
+As today, most of setup box or network configuration are using 'dhcp',
+why not installing it by default? It won't impact people who do not need
+it by will help others!
+So, why not updating rpmsrate to have it installed by default and not
+only if you are configuring network?
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+Dams
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+<PRE>Damien Lallement &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+&gt;<i> The fact is that Mageia doesn't have 'dhclient' installed by default
+</I>&gt;<i> (but available on DVDs).
+</I>
+Seems sensible, although IIRC drakxtools has changed during this cycle to go
+back to using dhcpcd by default again as it did for years before being changed
+to dhclient. We switched to the new upstream of dhcpcd which apparently is
+much improved compared to the old one. So if that's the default now, it would
+make sense to install that one, but either way, it does make sense to make sure
+a dhcp client is installed by default.
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+&gt;<i> Revision: 6573
+</I>&gt;<i> Author: boklm
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: 2012-12-04 22:15:33 +0100 (Tue, 04 Dec 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message:
+</I>&gt;<i> -----------
+</I>&gt;<i> Add script to rebuild a list of packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Added Paths:
+</I>&gt;<i> -----------
+</I>&gt;<i> release/trunk/rebuild-packages
+</I>
+Hi,
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+Isn't this duplicate with the magpie tool?
+<A HREF="http://jquelin.blogspot.fr/2011/02/magpie-mageia-perl-integration-easy.html">http://jquelin.blogspot.fr/2011/02/magpie-mageia-perl-integration-easy.html</A>
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+&gt;<i> Le 03/12/2012 08:20, Remco Rijnders a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If there is user demand for it, and packagers willing to provide
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; security updates for a few more months, I'm willing to host the packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; built.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We're running short of manpower, not of disk space...
+</I>
+In a relevant twist, I've just built Postgres 9.2.2 for Mageia *1* .
+
+It took me ~15sec of my time to package, almost half of writing this mail.
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+&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 3.7.0-0.rc8.1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 327546
+</I>&gt;<i> - add perf bash_completion
+</I>&gt;<i> - more filelist updates
+</I>&gt;<i> - add 3.7 buildfixes for alx, IFWLOG, mach64, ndiswrapper
+</I>&gt;<i> - pull in more upstream git fixes
+</I>&gt;<i> - rediff disable-mrproper patch
+</I>&gt;<i> - update to current rc8+ git
+</I>&gt;<i> - update filelists
+</I>&gt;<i> - update defconfigs
+</I>&gt;<i> - restore patch preferring ata over ide drivers
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+BTW kernel-linus is still affected.
+Of course this conflicts with the policy patch...
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+&gt;<i> Name : CardManager Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version : 1 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release : 3.mga3 Build Date: Fri Dec 7 23:27:14 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group : Development/Java Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size : 306150 License: BSD
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager : dmorgan &lt;dmorgan&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://cardmanager.wz.cz/">http://cardmanager.wz.cz/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary : Java application to allows you to play any, especially collectible, card game
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> This is free, open source multiplatform (java) application which allows you to
+</I>&gt;<i> play ANY card game.
+</I>&gt;<i> The game is designed especially to play collectible card games like Magic the
+</I>&gt;<i> Gathering or Doomtrooper over network.
+</I>&gt;<i> To play those games you need to own (scanned) images of card, which are not part
+</I>&gt;<i> of this package.
+</I>&gt;<i> Some can be easily downloadable from internet, but be aware of copyrights.
+</I>&gt;<i> The default deck and background is free of copyright
+</I>&gt;<i> Also please feel free to add your own backgrounds to
+</I>&gt;<i> ~/CardManager/data/backgrounds and of course enhance
+</I>&gt;<i> collection under ~/CardManager/collection
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> dmorgan &lt;dmorgan&gt; 1-3.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 327971
+</I>&gt;<i> - Build with java 7
+</I>
+Maybe in Games/Cards instead, no?
+
+Cheers,
+--
+Malo
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+Could someone delete ruby-ParseTree from the repositories please ?
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+It used to be needed by ruby-ruby_parser but it&#8217;s not the case anymore
+and the package has been deprecated upstream.
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+see <A HREF="http://blog.zenspider.com/blog/2009/04/parsetree-eol.html">http://blog.zenspider.com/blog/2009/04/parsetree-eol.html</A>
+
+no package depends on it afaik.
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+Thanks in advance,
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+Regards,
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+On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 01:47:09AM +0100, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sunday 04 November 2012 16:52, PhilippeDidier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There's a little problem with ruby updates in Cauldron : as shikamaru is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; always the official maintainer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What's happenig with Shikamarus packages? Isn't (s)he gone so long that they are unmaintained and should be marked as such?
+</I>You&#8217;re probably right, I was (and still am) very busy so at one point I
+just couldn&#8217;t cope with maintaining my own packages. However, since I
+wrote the ruby policy not only for myself, any point of view about how I
+set up the ruby stack would be really appreciated. It seems from what I
+read that for the most part making a strong focus on tests resulted in
+some pain to maintain those packages, because of the circular
+dependencies that were introduced, meaning the whole migration to
+ruby-1.9.3 required to bootstrap everything again. I remember jq had a
+script to determine in which order build which perl package, but I can&#8217;t
+remember where it is. That might help. Avoid having packages requiring
+each other would probably help, but for me it helped me a lot at the
+start because sometimes some gem were just broken, or assumed that some
+package was there when it wasn&#8217;t. I also thought it would save some
+time.
+
+As for my absence, first I apologize for letting you manage this
+without helping you the slightest, and not even drop a mail there saying
+what&#8217;s going on. I cannot decently maintain every package I imported
+when the project started, so if you&#8217;d like to take over the maintainance
+of some packages, go ahead.
+&gt;<i> ==
+</I>&gt;<i> $ mgarepo maintdb get |grep shikamaru|wc -l
+</I>&gt;<i> 278
+</I>&gt;<i> ==
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in cauldron repository we have coexisting ruby-*-doc packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just before I qualified as packager (in may I think) and got submit access, I was helping Shlomi upgrade the packages belonging to shikamaru. Abong them was many ruby packages.
+</I>&gt;<i> After upgrading several ruby packages, we started having differences in build success on the packages. I.e. They buildt on my cauldron but not in Shlomif's system. It turned out that if one specific ruby package was installed, ALL ruby packages failed to build, because the documentation did not build and some of the items in %files was missing.
+</I>I admit I wasn&#8217;t aware of this. At the time I worked on it I had a local
+iurt building packages, so no external package was particularly causing
+problems. Didn&#8217;t know about BuildConflict either.
+&gt;<i> (I hope Shlomi still remember which ruby package needs to be listed as BuildConflict. Maybe it's listed in some of the ruby packages he made after discovering this.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Untill we figured out something was wrong, I upgraded and checked in several packages, between 10 and 20 packages, where the documentation package was Removed from the spec, because bm/rpmbuild complained on missing files and I thought it was removed in the new version. But when Shlomi build it, he added the missing files, and I don't know if he readded the doc packages or just added the installed-but-not-packages files in the %files section.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When we figured out that it was due to the BuildConflict, we decided that he should do the ruby packges himself.
+</I>Not sure I get you there, &#8220;he&#8221; stands for me right ?
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
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+&gt;<i> &gt; When we figured out that it was due to the BuildConflict, we decided that he should do the ruby packges himself.
+</I>&gt;<i> Not sure I get you there, &#8220;he&#8221; stands for me right ?
+</I>
+No, &#171;he&#187; is Shlomif. :-)=
+To be more specific, Shlomif and I decided that Shlomif should do this.
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+&gt;<i> Could someone delete ruby-ParseTree from the repositories please ?
+</I>
+Unless I misunderstand, adding it to &#171;task-obsolete&#187; does the same thing, with a 2 week delay on deleting.
+So the proper action would be to add it to &#171;task-obsolete&#187;.
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+&gt;<i> On Saturday 8. December 2012 00.09, Remy CLOUARD wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Could someone delete ruby-ParseTree from the repositories please ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unless I misunderstand, adding it to &#171;task-obsolete&#187; does the same thing, with a 2 week delay on deleting.
+</I>&gt;<i> So the proper action would be to add it to &#171;task-obsolete&#187;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Johnny A. Solbu
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+Thanks, I didn&#8217;t know we could do this ourselves now, will do.
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+&gt;<i> Name : task-obsolete Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version : 3 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release : 37.mga3 Build Date: Sat Dec 8 10:57:14 2012
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+</I>&gt;<i> shikamaru &lt;shikamaru&gt; 3-37.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 328123
+</I>&gt;<i> - drop ruby-ParseTree
+</I><A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package</A> - i can still see it in
+SVN: <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/ruby-ParseTree/current">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/ruby-ParseTree/current</A>
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+ <B>Guillaume Rousse</B>
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+<PRE>Le 08/12/2012 00:55, Johnny A. Solbu a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Saturday 8. December 2012 00.09, Remy CLOUARD wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could someone delete ruby-ParseTree from the repositories please ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unless I misunderstand, adding it to &#171;task-obsolete&#187; does the same thing, with a 2 week delay on deleting.
+</I>&gt;<i> So the proper action would be to add it to &#171;task-obsolete&#187;.
+</I>That's still not the *proper* action. Stop removing packages from end
+user machines just to remove them from the mirrors as a side effect of
+our package submission procedure.
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+<PRE>On Saturday 8. December 2012 11.06, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; Unless I misunderstand, adding it to &#171;task-obsolete&#187; does the same thing, with a 2 week delay on deleting.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So the proper action would be to add it to &#171;task-obsolete&#187;.
+</I>&gt;<i> That's still not the proper action.
+</I>
+In other words, I did misunderstand.
+
+&gt;<i> Stop removing packages from end
+</I>&gt;<i> user machines just to remove them from the mirrors as a side effect of
+</I>&gt;<i> our package submission procedure.
+</I>
+So what should we do?
+The current packaging guidelines[1] says that this is the correct action for obsolete packages, which a depcrecated package is.
+If this is not the desired solution, then the guidelines should change. Perhaps just clairfied as to what is an obsolete package, which belongs in task-obsolete, and what is Not an obsolete package even if it's deprecated.
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+[1] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package</A>
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+<PRE>On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 12:06:56PM +0200, Sander Lepik wrote:
+&gt;<i> 08.12.2012 12:01, shikamaru kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Name : task-obsolete Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Version : 3 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Release : 37.mga3 Build Date: Sat Dec 8 10:57:14 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; shikamaru &lt;shikamaru&gt; 3-37.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; + Revision: 328123
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - drop ruby-ParseTree
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package</A> - i can still see it in
+</I>&gt;<i> SVN: <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/ruby-ParseTree/current">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/ruby-ParseTree/current</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hello, thanks for the pointer, package has been moved in SVN as well
+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> Hello Mages,
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So Cauldron is now in &quot;soft freeze&quot; for Mga3 - beta1 release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please try to avoid doing breakages until beta1 is out in case
+</I>&gt;<i> we need to do a resync
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ennael, frozen repo is synced, and mozldap-6.0.7-1.mga3 last
+</I>&gt;<i> package synced in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Can i push kde 4.10 beta2 ? i did commit some days ago but i was too buzy
+to push it the same day.
+It's not like it's going to break more stuff then it was for beta1.
+It can of course wait for the end of soft freeze
+
+Regards,
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+&gt;<i> You can find me on IRC as &quot;rindolf&quot; on #mageia-mentoring .
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+That's on Freenode.
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 6 d&#233;cembre 2012 11:41:42 Filipe Saraiva a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello Mages,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am looking for a mentor to help me with packaging for Mageia. I have
+</I>&gt;<i> interests in scientific softwares and I am creating a SWI-Prolog package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I applied my name and more informations in packaging apprentice
+</I>&gt;<i> candidates's table:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager#Packaging_apprentice_c">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager#Packaging_apprentice_c</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> andidates
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>
+i can mentor you if you want
+
+I am on freenode neoclust* ( * some numbers :) ) and on channels #mageia-dev
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+-------- Message original --------
+Sujet: Why I am erasing Mageia from my system
+Date : Sat, 08 Dec 2012 01:08:21 +0100
+De : Christoph Trunk &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ctrunk at kyosk.net</A>&gt;
+Pour : Anne Nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+
+Hi,
+
+maybe this feed-back is helpful for you.
+
+It seems that Mageia always brings up new trouble every time I am
+re-visiting it. I was trying to keep it running on an external HDD just
+to keep exploring it. I guess this is what you hope to get from
+interested users.
+
+What happened last time I don't remember. It was really hard work
+(searching around in forums etc.) to get the system running again.
+
+This time there are at least two problems:
+
+- Screen going black after 7 or 8 seconds - - darkness for about 5
+seconds - - okay for 7 or 8 seconds - - darkness again - - - - and so on.
+
+- It seems impossible to set up WiFi (it was working smoothly last time
+I logged into Mageia!) - I searched everything, but found no place where
+to just type in the PIN and get going. So there is no chance to update
+Mageia...
+
+This is not working for me at all. Ubuntu is not perfect, but seems to
+be much more &quot;accessible&quot;. I do not have time left for any more
+experiments with your system. Goodbye.
+
+A potentially interested, but now tired user from Germany
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+<PRE>Le 08/12/2012 12:15, John Balcaen a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/12/7 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So Cauldron is now in &quot;soft freeze&quot; for Mga3 - beta1 release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please try to avoid doing breakages until beta1 is out in case
+</I>&gt;<i> we need to do a resync
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ennael, frozen repo is synced, and mozldap-6.0.7-1.mga3 last
+</I>&gt;<i> package synced in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can i push kde 4.10 beta2 ? i did commit some days ago but i was too
+</I>&gt;<i> buzy to push it the same day.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's not like it's going to break more stuff then it was for beta1.
+</I>&gt;<i> It can of course wait for the end of soft freeze
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+ok please do it now so that we can include it for next set of isos. Can
+you please ping here when it's all submitted ?
+
+Thanks
+
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
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+&gt;<i> It seems impossible to set up WiFi
+</I>
+ I also have had problems, but there may be 'light at the end of the
+tunnel', see:
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+ <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7844">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7844</A>
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+<PRE>2012/12/8 Anne Nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> ok please do it now so that we can include it for next set of isos. Can
+</I>&gt;<i> you please ping here when it's all submitted ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll do it.
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> So I've just pushed the package mageia-prepare-upgrade to mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> core/updates_testing.
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Happy testing. Let me know if it kills any kittens. Please keep a backup
+</I>&gt;<i> etc. etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hi Colin,
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+I&#8217;ve followed the procedure and could upgrade my system from 2 to
+cauldron, but I still have an issue with the filesystem package.
+
+Somehow it seems like it fails to move /var/run to /run and /var/lock to
+/run/lock.
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+I would be glad if there could be a workaround for this.
+Here is a debug output of urpmi:
+# export LC_ALL=C
+# export LANG=C
+# urpmi --debug filesystem
+error: unpacking of archive failed on file /var/lock: cpio: rename
+failed - Is a directory
+error: filesystem-2.1.9-18.mga3.x86_64: install failed
+error: filesystem-2.1.9-17.mga2.x86_64: erase skipped
+unlocking urpmi database
+unlocking rpm database
+EXITING (pid=11661)
+
+The only way out I think would be to manually do the symlink from
+another install.
+
+Could you confirm that ?
+
+Thanks in advance,
+
+Regards,
+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> colin(at)mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Open Source:
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+Thanks to Peter Billam there is now a Perl module that gives Perl
+complete access to the ALSA MIDI library therefore allowing to easily
+create programs in Perl that inteface with MIDI capable synthesizers.
+
+I have packaged up this Perl module for Centos 6 and I think it should
+be straightforward to port the Centos 6 spec-file to Mageia, but since
+I'm not a Mageia packager (and can't be due to lack of time) I wanted to
+bring this to your attention with the hope that a Mageia packager picks
+this up and adds this very useful package to Mageia.
+
+Here are the Centos 6 files:
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+Spec-file:
+<A HREF="http://pkgrepo.linuxtech.net/el6/testing/spec-files/perl-MIDI-ALSA.spec">http://pkgrepo.linuxtech.net/el6/testing/spec-files/perl-MIDI-ALSA.spec</A>
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+Source RPM:
+<A HREF="http://pkgrepo.linuxtech.net/el6/testing/source/perl-MIDI-ALSA-1.16-1.el6.src.rpm">http://pkgrepo.linuxtech.net/el6/testing/source/perl-MIDI-ALSA-1.16-1.el6.src.rpm</A>
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+Binary RPMS:
+<A HREF="http://pkgrepo.linuxtech.net/el6/testing/i686/perl-MIDI-ALSA-1.16-1.el6.i686.rpm">http://pkgrepo.linuxtech.net/el6/testing/i686/perl-MIDI-ALSA-1.16-1.el6.i686.rpm</A>
+<A HREF="http://pkgrepo.linuxtech.net/el6/testing/x86_64/perl-MIDI-ALSA-1.16-1.el6.x86_64.rpm">http://pkgrepo.linuxtech.net/el6/testing/x86_64/perl-MIDI-ALSA-1.16-1.el6.x86_64.rpm</A>
+
+If you are curious to see what can be done with the MIDI::ALSA Perl
+module have a look at a program I wrote with it:
+<A HREF="http://www.yamahaforums.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=5915">http://www.yamahaforums.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=5915</A>
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+Regards,
+Andy
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+&gt;<i> Le 23/11/2012 22:39, Johnny A. Solbu a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Friday 23. November 2012 18.43, D.Morgan wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; we decided to not allow Cinnamon in mageia for now.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is there a list somewhere of Free and open source software that for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; whatever reason is not allowed in Mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There has already been zillions of discussions about this. We will not
+</I>&gt;<i> have Cinnamon. ....
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Please try to follow this. An open source project does not mean anybody
+</I>&gt;<i> can do whatever he wants....
+</I>
+Can we please free ourselves from the burden/mentality of a &quot;svn trunk&quot;
+workflow?
+If we put strict borders around the definition of our &quot;community&quot;, these
+borders tend to shring inwards.
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+There cannot be anything like &quot;package C is forbidden from Mageia&quot;, as long as
+we embrace an 'open' attitude towards contributions. Let them build it, debug
+it, maintain it and /host/ it in 3rd party repos. You can still reply &quot;we're
+sorry, but don't have the resources to support it in the long run. So it won't
+hit the standard repos+releases yet.&quot; . Perfectly acceptable IMO.
+
+And, who knows, even the build of some exotic package could trigger a series
+of bugs or dependencies that will return valuable feedback to the &quot;core&quot;
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+On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 14:43:47 +0100 (CET)
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks to Peter Billam there is now a Perl module that gives Perl
+</I>&gt;<i> complete access to the ALSA MIDI library therefore allowing to easily
+</I>&gt;<i> create programs in Perl that inteface with MIDI capable synthesizers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have packaged up this Perl module for Centos 6 and I think it should
+</I>&gt;<i> be straightforward to port the Centos 6 spec-file to Mageia, but since
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not a Mageia packager (and can't be due to lack of time) I wanted to
+</I>&gt;<i> bring this to your attention with the hope that a Mageia packager picks
+</I>&gt;<i> this up and adds this very useful package to Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I now packaged your perl-MIDI-ALSA for Mageia Linux 3/Cauldron after some
+Mageiaisation of the .spec file. Thanks!
+
+If you wish to return the favour you can package Freecell Solver
+( <A HREF="http://fc-solve.shlomifish.org/">http://fc-solve.shlomifish.org/</A> ) for Fedora/CentOS. The .tar.bz2 already has
+a built-in .spec and .spec.in and there's also a Mageia package for it here:
+
+<A HREF="http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/freecell-solver-3.14.1-1.mga3.src.rpm">http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/freecell-solver-3.14.1-1.mga3.src.rpm</A>
+
+I should note that it should better be made a suggests of the Fedora PySolFC
+package, because it enhances it (see <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYdqNuX4WJc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYdqNuX4WJc</A>
+). PySolFC recommends the following flags in build Freecell Solver:
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+--enable-max-num-freecells=8
+--enable-max-num-stacks=20
+--enable-max-num-initial-cards-per-stack=60
+
+Translated into the new CMake build system, they are:
+
+%cmake -DLOCALE_INSTALL_DIR=%{_datadir}/locale -DLIB_INSTALL_DIR=%{_libdir} \
+-DMAX_NUM_FREECELLS=8 -DMAX_NUM_STACKS=20 -DMAX_NUM_INITIAL_CARDS_IN_A_STACK=60
+
+I tried to set up a Fedora VM to prepare the package and test it, but Fedora
+ran extremely slowly on my VirtualBox VM and I couldn't stand it (Mageia and
+other Linux distributions as well as Windows and FreeBSD run fine on different
+VMs). If anyone can she any light on this issue, I'll be grateful as well.
+
+Regards,
+
+ Shlomi Fish
+
+&gt;<i> Here are the Centos 6 files:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Spec-file:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgrepo.linuxtech.net/el6/testing/spec-files/perl-MIDI-ALSA.spec">http://pkgrepo.linuxtech.net/el6/testing/spec-files/perl-MIDI-ALSA.spec</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Source RPM:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgrepo.linuxtech.net/el6/testing/source/perl-MIDI-ALSA-1.16-1.el6.src.rpm">http://pkgrepo.linuxtech.net/el6/testing/source/perl-MIDI-ALSA-1.16-1.el6.src.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Binary RPMS:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgrepo.linuxtech.net/el6/testing/i686/perl-MIDI-ALSA-1.16-1.el6.i686.rpm">http://pkgrepo.linuxtech.net/el6/testing/i686/perl-MIDI-ALSA-1.16-1.el6.i686.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgrepo.linuxtech.net/el6/testing/x86_64/perl-MIDI-ALSA-1.16-1.el6.x86_64.rpm">http://pkgrepo.linuxtech.net/el6/testing/x86_64/perl-MIDI-ALSA-1.16-1.el6.x86_64.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you are curious to see what can be done with the MIDI::ALSA Perl
+</I>&gt;<i> module have a look at a program I wrote with it:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.yamahaforums.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=5915">http://www.yamahaforums.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=5915</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Andy
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
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+<PRE>On Sat, 8 Dec 2012, Shlomi Fish wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I now packaged your perl-MIDI-ALSA for Mageia Linux 3/Cauldron after some
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageiaisation of the .spec file. Thanks!
+</I>
+That's great, thanks!
+
+&gt;<i> If you wish to return the favour you can package Freecell Solver
+</I>&gt;<i> ( <A HREF="http://fc-solve.shlomifish.org/">http://fc-solve.shlomifish.org/</A> ) for Fedora/CentOS. The .tar.bz2 already has
+</I>&gt;<i> a built-in .spec and .spec.in and there's also a Mageia package for it here:
+</I>
+Unfortunately I'm not a Fedora user or packager at all, I only run a
+personal repo for EL6 (RHEL6/Centos6/SL6) specialised in Audio/Video
+packages which is quite popular among EL6 desktop users due to the fact
+that it has several A/V related packages no other EL6 repo has.
+
+If you like I could add Freecell-Solver to my personal EL6 repo, but I
+don't think that would help much, it would probably get more attention
+in one of the large EL6 repos like EPEL.
+
+Regards,
+Andy
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+<PRE>Hi tux99,
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+On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 16:59:25 +0100 (CET)
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, 8 Dec 2012, Shlomi Fish wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I now packaged your perl-MIDI-ALSA for Mageia Linux 3/Cauldron after some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageiaisation of the .spec file. Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's great, thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+You're welcome.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; If you wish to return the favour you can package Freecell Solver
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( <A HREF="http://fc-solve.shlomifish.org/">http://fc-solve.shlomifish.org/</A> ) for Fedora/CentOS. The .tar.bz2 already
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; has a built-in .spec and .spec.in and there's also a Mageia package for it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunately I'm not a Fedora user or packager at all, I only run a
+</I>&gt;<i> personal repo for EL6 (RHEL6/Centos6/SL6) specialised in Audio/Video
+</I>&gt;<i> packages which is quite popular among EL6 desktop users due to the fact
+</I>&gt;<i> that it has several A/V related packages no other EL6 repo has.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you like I could add Freecell-Solver to my personal EL6 repo, but I
+</I>&gt;<i> don't think that would help much, it would probably get more attention
+</I>&gt;<i> in one of the large EL6 repos like EPEL.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks for your work.
+
+In any case, today I was able to successfully install and run a Fedora VM on my
+laptop (which is more underpowered than the desktop machine), although I did a
+few things differently like using a fixed-size VBox disk image and installing a
+32-bit system. After that, and after installing some packages, I was able to
+prepare a Fedora-friendly freecell-solver .src.rpm and submitted it here:
+
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885346">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885346</A>
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+Another thing I considered doing in the Fedora VM was an install of the Oracle
+RDBMS (which I was told was free for development purposes) and play with it
+a little. Not sure I'll do that, but I might.
+
+Regards,
+
+ Shlomi Fish
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As many of you know, upgrading from Mageia 2 is somewhat tricky due to
+</I>&gt;<i> the usr move.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With Alpha3 comes the ability for the installer to upgrade the
+</I>&gt;<i> filesystem layout, but many of you (myself included) prefer upgrading
+</I>&gt;<i> via urpmi rather than the installer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While this is possible with some manual commands, it's not as trivial a
+</I>&gt;<i> task as it should be - until now!!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I've just pushed the package mageia-prepare-upgrade to mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> core/updates_testing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This package, when installed will add a new menu option to your
+</I>&gt;<i> bootloader. Simply install this package, reboot, select the &quot;Mageia 3
+</I>&gt;<i> Upgrade Preparation&quot; entry boot, wait while your FS is converted and
+</I>&gt;<i> then perform a urpmi upgrade as you would normally.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've not specifically tested the upgrade part, only the installation and
+</I>&gt;<i> creation of the initrd and bootloader entries in grub. I've also not
+</I>&gt;<i> done this on an mga2 machine yet but will do soon enough.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just wanted to get this package &quot;out there&quot; for anyone wanting to
+</I>&gt;<i> update their mga2 machines to mga3 a3 but not wanting to use the installer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At present there are a few limitations:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. It requires kernel 3.3.8-2.mga2 to be installed (any flavour should
+</I>&gt;<i> work). A specific kernel version is not really 100% necessary but it
+</I>&gt;<i> does mean I can add hard requires to the package. This is only desirable
+</I>&gt;<i> to prevent the situation where users install this upgrade package but do
+</I>&gt;<i> not run it and later remove the kernel used to generate the initrd for
+</I>&gt;<i> the bootloader menu item, thus breaking it. Any smarter ideas on how to
+</I>&gt;<i> manage this welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. If you have /usr in a separate partition and have it mounted ro in
+</I>&gt;<i> your fstab, you will have to manually change the fstab to rw for the
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrade boot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Happy testing. Let me know if it kills any kittens. Please keep a backup
+</I>&gt;<i> etc. etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>Thanks Colin.
+The conversion works. But then the problem shows, we have no network.
+doing a urpmi --download-all --auto-update only downloads the fist 120+ rpms (the ones needed before
+restart-urpmi
+
+What is needed is to add some directories and then the network will start
+/var/run/netreport
+/var/lock/subsystem/network
+
+I will check after the upgrade if they can be deleted
+
+--
+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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+<PRE>On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 02:43:47PM +0100, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> If you are curious to see what can be done with the MIDI::ALSA Perl
+</I>&gt;<i> module have a look at a program I wrote with it:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.yamahaforums.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=5915">http://www.yamahaforums.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=5915</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Andy
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Awesome !
+
+Up until now I used to use simple sysexxer to transfer sysex to my DX7.
+Editing patches on the DX7 is a major pain, because there is only one
+slider to adjust each parameter for all oscillators.
+Seems to me that this library will make it way easier to build apps that
+do what this app does for the RM50. (maybe you have plans to support
+other hardware ?)
+
+Thanks for bringing attention to this module, and thanks rindolf for
+packaging it :)
+
+Cheers,
+--
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+</I>&gt;<i> ok please do it now so that we can include it for next set of isos. Can
+</I>&gt;<i> you please ping here when it's all submitted ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Everything has been pushed &amp; available on mirrors.
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+<PRE>Hello,
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+while looking to beta1 isos pbs i saw a pb with a rpm that shouldn't
+have been allowed to go in mageia cauldron. The package is freeswitch.
+
+First the spec file is &quot;excuse me the word&quot; awful ( see
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/freeswitch/current/SPECS/freeswitch.spec?revision=328996&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/freeswitch/current/SPECS/freeswitch.spec?revision=328996&amp;view=markup</A>
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+1- macro redefined
+2- Use of some LIBDIR PKGCONFIGDIR macros instead of using the std
+rpms macros like :
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+%define PREFIX %{_prefix}
+%define EXECPREFIX %{_exec_prefix}
+%define BINDIR %{_bindir}
+%define SBINDIR %{_sbindir}
+%define LIBEXECDIR %{_libexecdir}/%name
+%define SYSCONFDIR %{_sysconfdir}/%name
+%define SHARESTATEDIR %{_sharedstatedir}/%name
+%define LOCALSTATEDIR %{_localstatedir}/lib/%name
+%define LIBDIR %{_libdir}
+%define INCLUDEDIR %{_includedir}
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+3- libs are in the main package
+4- the package can break other packages like firefox as it provides
+%{_libdir}/libnspr4.so
+
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+I think this package must be removed from mageia as long as its
+packaging isn't cleaned and should be reviewed before being included
+in mageia in the future.
+
+WDYT ?
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+Regards,
+D.
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 09:36:36PM -0500, David wrote in
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;k9eerj$lco$<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">1 at ger.gmane.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>As the person who does a lot of the packaging for security updates, I am
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>willing to continue the work I do on it, especially since I haven't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>had time yet to move my and my family's workstations to Mageia 2, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>probably won't until late December, but I don't have a way to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>distribute any new packages. The build system has closed for Mageia 1.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>SVN should still be open, so I suppose I could check things in there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>and anyone interested could build from it locally? I don't want to host
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>my own repository somewhere.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If there is user demand for it, and packagers willing to provide security
+</I>&gt;<i> updates for a few more months, I'm willing to host the packages built.
+</I>
+If anyone is interested, there are updates checked into Mageia 1 SVN for perl, bind, libtiff, tor, and gimp.
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+&gt;<i> Name : mplayer Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version : 1.1 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release : 7.mga3 Build Date: Sun Dec 9 01:04:15 2012
+</I>
+&gt;<i> luigiwalser &lt;luigiwalser&gt; 1.1-7.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 328988
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix building with updated giflib
+</I>&gt;<i> - update bundled ffmpeg to 1.0.1
+</I>
+MPlayer is built against system ffmpeg (despite not having a buildrequires
+on it), so why not remove the bundled ffmpeg instead of updating it?
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+<PRE>09.12.2012 05:48, Christiaan Welvaart kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 9 Dec 2012, luigiwalser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name : mplayer Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Version : 1.1 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Release : 7.mga3 Build Date: Sun Dec 9 01:04:15 2012
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> luigiwalser &lt;luigiwalser&gt; 1.1-7.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 328988
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - fix building with updated giflib
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - update bundled ffmpeg to 1.0.1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> MPlayer is built against system ffmpeg (despite not having a buildrequires
+</I>&gt;<i> on it), so why not remove the bundled ffmpeg instead of updating it?
+</I>
+IIRC some MPlayer features depend on some internal ffmpeg headers, while
+still working with system ffmpeg (yes, not very nice).
+
+Patches to clean up MPlayer use of ffmpeg would be welcome :)
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+--
+Anssi Hannula
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+ <B>tux99-mga at uridium.org</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Perl%20MIDI%3AALSA%20module%20%28package%20suggestion%20for%0A%20Mageia%29&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1212090908330.21585-100000%40outpost-priv%3E"
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+<PRE>On Sun, 9 Dec 2012, Remy CLOUARD wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 02:43:47PM +0100, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If you are curious to see what can be done with the MIDI::ALSA Perl
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; module have a look at a program I wrote with it:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.yamahaforums.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=5915">http://www.yamahaforums.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=5915</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Awesome !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Up until now I used to use simple sysexxer to transfer sysex to my DX7.
+</I>&gt;<i> Editing patches on the DX7 is a major pain, because there is only one
+</I>&gt;<i> slider to adjust each parameter for all oscillators.
+</I>&gt;<i> Seems to me that this library will make it way easier to build apps that
+</I>&gt;<i> do what this app does for the RM50. (maybe you have plans to support
+</I>&gt;<i> other hardware ?)
+</I>
+Yes, IMHO this library together with Perl/Tk (or GTK2-Perl if you
+prefer) for the GUI makes it very easy to write apps like this one, I
+have very little programming experience and I still managed to write
+this in a few weeks in my spare time (I did have basic Perl scripting
+experience but had never written such large GUI based app before).
+
+I might write similar apps for other synths I own in future but I don't
+own a DX7 (great synth!) so can't support that one.
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+Regards,
+Andy
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+ <B>Jerome Quelin</B>
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+<PRE>On 12/12/06 19:45 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012, Jerome Quelin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Would it be possible to add a new environment variable for rpmbuild to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; use when building rpms?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; new variable: PERL_AUTOINSTALL=--skipdeps
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If it's needed in %install, it can be added to %__spec_install_pre :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/rpm/rpm-setup/trunk/build.macros.in?revision=6508&amp;view=markup#l288">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/rpm/rpm-setup/trunk/build.macros.in?revision=6508&amp;view=markup#l288</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it needed in %prep or %build ?
+</I>
+Sorry for the delay before answering - it's needed in %build.
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+ <B>Anne Nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>Le 09/12/2012 01:57, D.Morgan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> while looking to beta1 isos pbs i saw a pb with a rpm that shouldn't
+</I>&gt;<i> have been allowed to go in mageia cauldron. The package is freeswitch.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First the spec file is &quot;excuse me the word&quot; awful ( see
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/freeswitch/current/SPECS/freeswitch.spec?revision=328996&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/freeswitch/current/SPECS/freeswitch.spec?revision=328996&amp;view=markup</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1- macro redefined
+</I>&gt;<i> 2- Use of some LIBDIR PKGCONFIGDIR macros instead of using the std
+</I>&gt;<i> rpms macros like :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %define PREFIX %{_prefix}
+</I>&gt;<i> %define EXECPREFIX %{_exec_prefix}
+</I>&gt;<i> %define BINDIR %{_bindir}
+</I>&gt;<i> %define SBINDIR %{_sbindir}
+</I>&gt;<i> %define LIBEXECDIR %{_libexecdir}/%name
+</I>&gt;<i> %define SYSCONFDIR %{_sysconfdir}/%name
+</I>&gt;<i> %define SHARESTATEDIR %{_sharedstatedir}/%name
+</I>&gt;<i> %define LOCALSTATEDIR %{_localstatedir}/lib/%name
+</I>&gt;<i> %define LIBDIR %{_libdir}
+</I>&gt;<i> %define INCLUDEDIR %{_includedir}
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3- libs are in the main package
+</I>&gt;<i> 4- the package can break other packages like firefox as it provides
+</I>&gt;<i> %{_libdir}/libnspr4.so
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think this package must be removed from mageia as long as its
+</I>&gt;<i> packaging isn't cleaned and should be reviewed before being included
+</I>&gt;<i> in mageia in the future.
+</I>
+Please do it for now. I'm blocked on isos since yesterday now.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYT ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> D.
+</I>
+
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+&gt;<i> I think this package must be removed from mageia as long as its
+</I>&gt;<i> packaging isn't cleaned and should be reviewed before being included
+</I>&gt;<i> in mageia in the future.
+</I>
+I can help cleanup the spec, unless someone else is already doing so.
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+ <B>Olivier Blin</B>
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+<PRE>Jerome Quelin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jquelin at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
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+&gt;<i> On 12/12/06 19:45 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 06 Dec 2012, Jerome Quelin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Would it be possible to add a new environment variable for rpmbuild to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; use when building rpms?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; new variable: PERL_AUTOINSTALL=--skipdeps
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If it's needed in %install, it can be added to %__spec_install_pre :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/rpm/rpm-setup/trunk/build.macros.in?revision=6508&amp;view=markup#l288">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/rpm/rpm-setup/trunk/build.macros.in?revision=6508&amp;view=markup#l288</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is it needed in %prep or %build ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry for the delay before answering - it's needed in %build.
+</I>
+Can't we add some %__spec_build_pre macro with these then?
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Remy CLOUARD at 08/12/12 12:25 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 04:37:43PM +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I've just pushed the package mageia-prepare-upgrade to mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> core/updates_testing.
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Happy testing. Let me know if it kills any kittens. Please keep a backup
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> etc. etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Colin,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I&#8217;ve followed the procedure and could upgrade my system from 2 to
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron, but I still have an issue with the filesystem package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Somehow it seems like it fails to move /var/run to /run and /var/lock to
+</I>&gt;<i> /run/lock.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would be glad if there could be a workaround for this.
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is a debug output of urpmi:
+</I>&gt;<i> # export LC_ALL=C
+</I>&gt;<i> # export LANG=C
+</I>&gt;<i> # urpmi --debug filesystem
+</I>&gt;<i> error: unpacking of archive failed on file /var/lock: cpio: rename
+</I>&gt;<i> failed - Is a directory
+</I>&gt;<i> error: filesystem-2.1.9-18.mga3.x86_64: install failed
+</I>&gt;<i> error: filesystem-2.1.9-17.mga2.x86_64: erase skipped
+</I>&gt;<i> unlocking urpmi database
+</I>&gt;<i> unlocking rpm database
+</I>&gt;<i> EXITING (pid=11661)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The only way out I think would be to manually do the symlink from
+</I>&gt;<i> another install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could you confirm that ?
+</I>
+Actually yes, there is still a problem at present with /var on a
+separate partition... I need to look into that.
+
+Col
+
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+
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 08/12/12 22:51 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Sunday, November 18, 2012 09:37:43 AM Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As many of you know, upgrading from Mageia 2 is somewhat tricky due to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the usr move.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> With Alpha3 comes the ability for the installer to upgrade the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> filesystem layout, but many of you (myself included) prefer upgrading
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> via urpmi rather than the installer.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> While this is possible with some manual commands, it's not as trivial a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> task as it should be - until now!!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I've just pushed the package mageia-prepare-upgrade to mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> core/updates_testing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This package, when installed will add a new menu option to your
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bootloader. Simply install this package, reboot, select the &quot;Mageia 3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Upgrade Preparation&quot; entry boot, wait while your FS is converted and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> then perform a urpmi upgrade as you would normally.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've not specifically tested the upgrade part, only the installation and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> creation of the initrd and bootloader entries in grub. I've also not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> done this on an mga2 machine yet but will do soon enough.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just wanted to get this package &quot;out there&quot; for anyone wanting to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> update their mga2 machines to mga3 a3 but not wanting to use the installer.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> At present there are a few limitations:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. It requires kernel 3.3.8-2.mga2 to be installed (any flavour should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> work). A specific kernel version is not really 100% necessary but it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> does mean I can add hard requires to the package. This is only desirable
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to prevent the situation where users install this upgrade package but do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not run it and later remove the kernel used to generate the initrd for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the bootloader menu item, thus breaking it. Any smarter ideas on how to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> manage this welcome.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. If you have /usr in a separate partition and have it mounted ro in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> your fstab, you will have to manually change the fstab to rw for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> upgrade boot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Happy testing. Let me know if it kills any kittens. Please keep a backup
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> etc. etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks Colin.
+</I>&gt;<i> The conversion works. But then the problem shows, we have no network.
+</I>&gt;<i> doing a urpmi --download-all --auto-update only downloads the fist 120+ rpms (the ones needed before
+</I>&gt;<i> restart-urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is needed is to add some directories and then the network will start
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/run/netreport
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/lock/subsystem/network
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I will check after the upgrade if they can be deleted
+</I>
+Hmm, yes, I guess after doing the upgrade the various /var/run and
+/var/lock folders would be nuked. In mga3 they will be created by
+tmpfiles but not with a simple reboot on mga2...
+
+Hmm, I wonder how best to do this... perhaps we could ship updated
+packages for each of the packages which absolutely *need* this to do the
+download... or perhaps we could just ship some essential config tweaks
+in the this mageia-prepare-upgrade file. It shouldn't do any harm to do
+the latter and it's a bit easier on the QA folk.
+
+Cheers for the report
+
+
+Col
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+--
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+Open Source:
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>On Sunday 9. December 2012 11.19, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+&gt;<i> I can help cleanup the spec
+</I>
+I've done some initial cleanup and commited (but not submited). I'm sure some more cleanup is be needed, I can't do much more today. my familly requires my precense soon. :-)=
+I have not yet tested a full build, so I don't know if my cleanup broke the entire package. I only tested that configure ran without problems. There's a possibillity that some items ends up where it shouldn't.
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+2 notes:
+The sub package &#171;codec-siren&#187; have a reference in the description to patent licensing requirements for comercial use, which places it in tainted, unless it's already there.
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+At the end of %configure and prior to starting %build, it contacts the internet for some reason.
+==
+Registering you for ClueCon <A HREF="http://www.cluecon.com">http://www.cluecon.com</A> ..... See you in August. ;-)
+==
+A patch to disable that might be required.
+
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 09/12/12 12:18 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; What is needed is to add some directories and then the network will start
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; /var/run/netreport
+</I>
+Hmm, even on my mga2 system, I have the following in
+/etc/tmpfiles.d/initscripts.conf:
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+d /var/run/netreport 0775 root root -
+
+This should mean that on a fresh boot, the folder should be created for
+you on boot by systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; /var/lock/subsystem/network
+</I>
+Actually, re the latter one in the list there, are you sure about it?
+
+I have no such folder on my Mga2 systems nor my Mga3 one.
+
+Are you perhaps referring to a /var/lock/subsys/network file?
+
+
+So I'm a little confused as to why you needed to create these by hand :s
+
+Col
+
+--
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+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>Le 09/12/2012 13:46, Johnny A. Solbu a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sunday 9. December 2012 11.19, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can help cleanup the spec
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've done some initial cleanup and commited (but not submited). I'm sure some more cleanup is be needed, I can't do much more today. my familly requires my precense soon. :-)=
+</I>&gt;<i> I have not yet tested a full build, so I don't know if my cleanup broke the entire package. I only tested that configure ran without problems. There's a possibillity that some items ends up where it shouldn't.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2 notes:
+</I>&gt;<i> The sub package &#171;codec-siren&#187; have a reference in the description to patent licensing requirements for comercial use, which places it in tainted, unless it's already there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At the end of %configure and prior to starting %build, it contacts the internet for some reason.
+</I>&gt;<i> ==
+</I>&gt;<i> Registering you for ClueCon <A HREF="http://www.cluecon.com">http://www.cluecon.com</A> ..... See you in August. ;-)
+</I>&gt;<i> ==
+</I>&gt;<i> A patch to disable that might be required.
+</I>Why waste any time on such pile of crap, without any visibility on the
+desirability of such software in the distribution ?
+
+--
+BOFH excuse #250:
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Why waste any time on such pile of crap, without any visibility on the
+</I>&gt;<i> desirability of such software in the distribution ?
+</I>Hi,
+
+do influential Mageia devs want this and push it, although it disrupts
+other packages? Where's the difference to the gnome2 forks?
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+<PRE>On Sunday 9. December 2012 14.27, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> Why waste any time on such pile of crap, without any visibility on the
+</I>&gt;<i> desirability of such software in the distribution ?
+</I>
+Good point.
+
+I am tempted to throw away the spec file and use the spec file from opensuse. It looks much better and have only defined a few sub packages.
+I can look into that when I get home later tonight, unless we decide to just delete the whole thing.
+I have no problem with either solution.
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+&gt;<i> &gt; On 12/12/06 19:45 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Thu, 06 Dec 2012, Jerome Quelin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Would it be possible to add a new environment variable for rpmbuild to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; use when building rpms?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; new variable: PERL_AUTOINSTALL=--skipdeps
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; If it's needed in %install, it can be added to %__spec_install_pre :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/rpm/rpm-setup/trunk/build.macros.in?revision=6508&amp;view=markup#l288">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/rpm/rpm-setup/trunk/build.macros.in?revision=6508&amp;view=markup#l288</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Is it needed in %prep or %build ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sorry for the delay before answering - it's needed in %build.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can't we add some %__spec_build_pre macro with these then?
+</I>
+I guess we can, but since I don't really know which is the best, please
+let met know what should be patched preferrably.
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+<PRE>On Sunday 9. December 2012 10.28, Anne Nicolas wrote:
+&gt;<i> I'm blocked on isos since yesterday now.
+</I>
+Looks like it's deleted from the repo, so you should be ok now.
+==
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">solbu at cauldron</A> ~]$ LC_ALL=C urpmq -i freeswitch
+No package named freeswitch
+==
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+Should propagate though most mirrors soon, if not already.
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+&gt;<i> On 7 December 2012 00:08, tmb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 3.7.0-0.rc8.1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 327546
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - add perf bash_completion
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - more filelist updates
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - add 3.7 buildfixes for alx, IFWLOG, mach64, ndiswrapper
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - pull in more upstream git fixes
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - rediff disable-mrproper patch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - update to current rc8+ git
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - update filelists
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - update defconfigs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - restore patch preferring ata over ide drivers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW kernel-linus is still affected.
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course this conflicts with the policy patch...
+</I>
+Maybe something worth being submitted upstream then?
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+&gt;<i> Revision 6620 Author guillomovitch Date 2012-12-06 19:58:17 +0100 (Thu, 06
+</I>&gt;<i> Dec 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
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+</I>&gt;<i> Removed Paths
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+</I>&gt;<i> rpm/urpmi/trunk/t/pod.t
+</I>
+NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
+Please stop that madness.
+
+Previous test did worked, it did catch errors before commiting them.
+Yours does nothing:
+t/pod-coverage.t ................................................
+skipped: Author test, set $ENV{TEST_AUTHOR} to a true value to run
+t/pod-spelling.t ................................................
+skipped: Author test, set $ENV{TEST_AUTHOR} to a true value to run
+t/pod-syntax.t ..................................................
+skipped: Author test, set $ENV{TEST_AUTHOR} to a true value to run
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+Stop commiting stuff without actually running the test suite!
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - add perf bash_completion
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - more filelist updates
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - add 3.7 buildfixes for alx, IFWLOG, mach64, ndiswrapper
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - pull in more upstream git fixes
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - rediff disable-mrproper patch
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - update to current rc8+ git
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - update filelists
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - update defconfigs
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - restore patch preferring ata over ide drivers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> BTW kernel-linus is still affected.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Of course this conflicts with the policy patch...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe something worth being submitted upstream then?
+</I>
+Or changing aliases order in ldetect.
+With modules-init-tools, we used to pick the last alias:
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+ // take the last one because we find eg: generic/ata_generic/sata_sil
+ struct module_alias *it = aliases;
+ while (it-&gt;next)
+ it = it-&gt;next;
+ result = strdup(it-&gt;module);
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+with kmod, we pick the first one (b/c that's the order that kept the same
+results as with modules-init-tools, when I switched ldetect from unsupported
+libm-i-t to kmod):
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+ kmod_list_foreach(l, list) {
+ struct kmod_module *mod = kmod_module_get_module(l);
+ //if (str) // keep last one
+ // free(str);
+ if (!str) // keep first one
+ str = strdup(kmod_module_get_name(mod));
+ }
+
+It used to works nicely but it appears that it works only good with a
+patched kernel.
+When we drop our patches, letect broke, reporting the wrong results
+(<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8315">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8315</A>)
+
+We could drop that patch for good and pick the last found alias instead of
+the first one in ldetect.
+See:
+- the patch: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/attachment.cgi?id=3204">https://bugs.mageia.org/attachment.cgi?id=3204</A>
+- the result in lscpidrake output on unpatched kernel:
+ <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/attachment.cgi?id=3205">https://bugs.mageia.org/attachment.cgi?id=3205</A>
+
+In fact, I'm considering submiting a patched ldetect with the changed ordering
+to core/updates_testing and ask people to report the difference (if any)
+between:
+- core/release's ldetect + kernel-desktop
+- core/updates_testing's ldetect + kernel-linus
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+&gt;<i> luigiwalser &lt;luigiwalser&gt; 1.1-7.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 328988
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix building with updated giflib
+</I>&gt;<i> - update bundled ffmpeg to 1.0.1
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+<PRE>Johnny A. Solbu skrev 9.12.2012 15:37:
+&gt;<i> On Sunday 9. December 2012 14.27, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why waste any time on such pile of crap, without any visibility on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> desirability of such software in the distribution ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good point.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am tempted to throw away the spec file and use the spec file from opensuse. It looks much better and have only defined a few sub packages.
+</I>
+Well, this decision is not your to take, as dlucio is the maintainer
+and is responsible for sorting it out if he wants the package
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+<PRE>Le 09/12/2012 15:39, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> Previous test did worked, it did catch errors before commiting them.
+</I>&gt;<i> Yours does nothing:
+</I>&gt;<i> t/pod-coverage.t ................................................
+</I>&gt;<i> skipped: Author test, set $ENV{TEST_AUTHOR} to a true value to run
+</I>&gt;<i> t/pod-spelling.t ................................................
+</I>&gt;<i> skipped: Author test, set $ENV{TEST_AUTHOR} to a true value to run
+</I>&gt;<i> t/pod-syntax.t ..................................................
+</I>&gt;<i> skipped: Author test, set $ENV{TEST_AUTHOR} to a true value to run
+</I>They work if you set the variable, as explicitely reported. That's
+perfectly useless to run those tests anywhere else as on developper
+machine, and especially during package build. And that's a standard
+practice in perl community.
+
+And your claim are quite unfair, given than the previous test didn't
+prevented trivial syntax errors to be commited.
+
+Feel free to revert those changes, this kind of discussion isn't worth
+the pain.
+--
+BOFH excuse #337:
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+the butane lighter causes the pincushioning
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+<PRE>On 9 December 2012 17:04, Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Yours does nothing:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> t/pod-coverage.t ................................................
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> skipped: Author test, set $ENV{TEST_AUTHOR} to a true value to run
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> t/pod-spelling.t ................................................
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> skipped: Author test, set $ENV{TEST_AUTHOR} to a true value to run
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> t/pod-syntax.t ..................................................
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> skipped: Author test, set $ENV{TEST_AUTHOR} to a true value to run
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> They work if you set the variable, as explicitely reported. That's perfectly
+</I>&gt;<i> useless to run those tests anywhere else as on developper machine, and
+</I>&gt;<i> especially during package build. And that's a standard practice in perl
+</I>&gt;<i> community.
+</I>
+No, I want pod errors to be found prior submitting them.
+And I don't want to manually run several tests.
+Before all I had to do was to run &quot;make test&quot; and it reported me
+any errors before commiting.
+Now it doesn't anymore.
+
+&gt;<i> And your claim are quite unfair, given than the previous test didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> prevented trivial syntax errors to be commited.
+</I>
+Yes it did.
+I provided you the &quot;make test&quot; log proving it.
+Yours are not run anymore when running &quot;make test&quot;.
+What I did fail to mention is that they don't even work with that varible:
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> t]# TEST_AUTHOR=test perl pod-coverage.t
+You said to run 0 tests at pod-coverage.t line 21.
+
+You don't even have tried them, did you?
+
+&gt;<i> Feel free to revert those changes, this kind of discussion isn't worth the
+</I>&gt;<i> pain.
+</I>
+Well, if that mean less quality testsuite and if you refuse to answer reviewing,
+I'll eventually revert those or at least put back the old working pod test.
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+&gt;<i> No, I want pod errors to be found prior submitting them.
+</I>&gt;<i> And I don't want to manually run several tests.
+</I>&gt;<i> Before all I had to do was to run &quot;make test&quot; and it reported me
+</I>&gt;<i> any errors before commiting.
+</I>&gt;<i> Now it doesn't anymore.
+</I>make test TEST_AUTHOR=1
+or drop the conditional in the tests.
+
+[..]
+&gt;<i> Well, if that mean less quality testsuite and if you refuse to answer reviewing,
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll eventually revert those or at least put back the old working pod test.
+</I>Just revert. Or try to show minimal interest in external contributions,
+instead of plain hostility.
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+BOFH excuse #70:
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+</I>&gt;<i> But for now the rpms have been removed from repos until the listed
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+&gt;<i> Revision 329082 Author dlucio Date 2012-12-09 17:21:44 +0100 (Sun, 09 Dec
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - mod_siren is not optional
+</I>&gt;<i> - mod_spidermonkey is disabled
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron/freeswitch/current/SPECS/freeswitch.spec
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified: cauldron/freeswitch/current/SPECS/freeswitch.spec
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- cauldron/freeswitch/current/SPECS/freeswitch.spec 2012-12-09 15:59:02
+</I>&gt;<i> UTC (rev 329081)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ cauldron/freeswitch/current/SPECS/freeswitch.spec 2012-12-09 16:21:44
+</I>&gt;<i> UTC (rev 329082)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> +%define Werror_cflags -Wformat
+</I>&gt;<i> %define _disable_ld_as_needed 1
+</I>&gt;<i> %define _disable_ld_no_undefined 1
+</I>&gt;<i> %define _disable_ld_relro 1
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -5,6 +6,34 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> %define _disable_ld_build_id 1
+</I>&gt;<i> %define _disable_ld_enable_new_dtags 1
+</I>&gt;<i> %define _disable_libtoolize 1
+</I>&gt;<i> +######################################################################################################################
+</I>&gt;<i> +#
+</I>&gt;<i> +# spec file for package freeswitch
+</I>&gt;<i> +#
+</I>&gt;<i> +# includes module(s): freeswitch-devel freeswitch-codec-passthru-amr
+</I>&gt;<i> freeswitch-codec-passthru-amrwb freeswitch-codec-passthru-g729
+</I>&gt;<i> +# freeswitch-codec-passthru-g7231 freeswitch-lua
+</I>&gt;<i> freeswitch-perl freeswitch-python
+</I>&gt;<i> +# freeswitch-lan-de freeswitch-lang-en
+</I>&gt;<i> freeswitch-lang-fr freeswitch-lang-hu freeswitch-lang-ru freeswitch-freetdm
+</I>&gt;<i> +#
+</I>&gt;<i> +# Initial Version Copyright (C) 2007 Peter Nixon and Michal Bielicki, All
+</I>&gt;<i> Rights Reserved.
+</I>&gt;<i> +#
+</I>&gt;<i> +# This file is part of:
+</I>&gt;<i> +# FreeSWITCH Modular Media Switching Software Library / Soft-Switch
+</I>&gt;<i> Application
+</I>&gt;<i> +# Copyright (C) 2005-2012, Anthony Minessale II &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anthm at freeswitch.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> +#
+</I>&gt;<i> +# This file and all modifications and additions to the pristine package are
+</I>&gt;<i> under the same license as the package itself.
+</I>&gt;<i> +#
+</I>&gt;<i> +# Contributor(s): Mike Jerris
+</I>&gt;<i> +# Brian West
+</I>&gt;<i> +# Anthony Minessale II &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anthm at freeswitch.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> +# Raul Fragoso
+</I>&gt;<i> +# Rupa Shomaker
+</I>&gt;<i> +# Marc Olivier Chouinard
+</I>&gt;<i> +# Raymond Chandler
+</I>&gt;<i> +# Ken Rice &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">krice at freeswitch.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> +#
+</I>&gt;<i> +# Maintainer(s): Ken Rice &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">krice at freeswitch.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> +#
+</I>
+
+so you get rid of all cleaning done by other people without notifying
+in the commit log . Please propedit your specfile.
+
+And in addition as told this would be better to review the spec file
+before submiting because it is just horrible and would need some more
+work/love... but you already submited, Hopefully you removed libnspr4
+but too WITHOUT notification.
+
+you still have ;
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+%{LIBDIR}/libfreeswitch*.so*
+%{LIBDIR}/libfreeswitch*.a
+
+in the main package which is against all our policies and you still
+use %{LIBDIR} instead of %{_libdir} ( means you reverted my cleaning
+without notify it in the commit log ( not really fair )
+
+Please fix and/or ask for help because we need quality in mageia.
+
+Regards,
+D.
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+<PRE>On 9 December 2012 13:18, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So I've just pushed the package mageia-prepare-upgrade to mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> core/updates_testing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This package, when installed will add a new menu option to your
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bootloader. Simply install this package, reboot, select the &quot;Mageia 3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Upgrade Preparation&quot; entry boot, wait while your FS is converted and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> then perform a urpmi upgrade as you would normally.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've not specifically tested the upgrade part, only the installation and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> creation of the initrd and bootloader entries in grub. I've also not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> done this on an mga2 machine yet but will do soon enough.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just wanted to get this package &quot;out there&quot; for anyone wanting to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> update their mga2 machines to mga3 a3 but not wanting to use the installer.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> At present there are a few limitations:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. It requires kernel 3.3.8-2.mga2 to be installed (any flavour should
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> work). A specific kernel version is not really 100% necessary but it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> does mean I can add hard requires to the package. This is only desirable
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to prevent the situation where users install this upgrade package but do
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not run it and later remove the kernel used to generate the initrd for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the bootloader menu item, thus breaking it. Any smarter ideas on how to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> manage this welcome.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2. If you have /usr in a separate partition and have it mounted ro in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> your fstab, you will have to manually change the fstab to rw for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> upgrade boot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Happy testing. Let me know if it kills any kittens. Please keep a backup
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> etc. etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks Colin.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The conversion works. But then the problem shows, we have no network.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> doing a urpmi --download-all --auto-update only downloads the fist 120+ rpms (the ones needed before
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> restart-urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is needed is to add some directories and then the network will start
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /var/run/netreport
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /var/lock/subsystem/network
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I will check after the upgrade if they can be deleted
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm, yes, I guess after doing the upgrade the various /var/run and
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/lock folders would be nuked. In mga3 they will be created by
+</I>&gt;<i> tmpfiles but not with a simple reboot on mga2...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm, I wonder how best to do this... perhaps we could ship updated
+</I>&gt;<i> packages for each of the packages which absolutely *need* this to do the
+</I>&gt;<i> download... or perhaps we could just ship some essential config tweaks
+</I>&gt;<i> in the this mageia-prepare-upgrade file. It shouldn't do any harm to do
+</I>&gt;<i> the latter and it's a bit easier on the QA folk.
+</I>
+Humm we could just package mageia-prepare-upgrade in mga3 and add
+it to urpmi priority list.
+Thus it would also work for people who never apply updates...
+My 2 cents
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 09/12/12 12:14 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Remy CLOUARD at 08/12/12 12:25 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 04:37:43PM +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So I've just pushed the package mageia-prepare-upgrade to mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> core/updates_testing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Happy testing. Let me know if it kills any kittens. Please keep a backup
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> etc. etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Colin,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I&#8217;ve followed the procedure and could upgrade my system from 2 to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cauldron, but I still have an issue with the filesystem package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Somehow it seems like it fails to move /var/run to /run and /var/lock to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /run/lock.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would be glad if there could be a workaround for this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here is a debug output of urpmi:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # export LC_ALL=C
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # export LANG=C
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # urpmi --debug filesystem
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> error: unpacking of archive failed on file /var/lock: cpio: rename
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> failed - Is a directory
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> error: filesystem-2.1.9-18.mga3.x86_64: install failed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> error: filesystem-2.1.9-17.mga2.x86_64: erase skipped
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> unlocking urpmi database
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> unlocking rpm database
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> EXITING (pid=11661)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The only way out I think would be to manually do the symlink from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> another install.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could you confirm that ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually yes, there is still a problem at present with /var on a
+</I>&gt;<i> separate partition... I need to look into that.
+</I>
+So the latest package should mount /var in the initrd in much the same
+way it does with /usr (not exactly the same but I want to make the
+changes as unobtrusive as possible and ideally separate from the main
+dracut package for convenience of updating).
+
+I presume your setup is such that /var is indeed on a separate partition?
+
+In order to fix this, simply mv the folders out the way and just do the
+symlinks manually - it'll mess up the current boot, but a reboot should
+fix it.
+
+If the symlinks disappear and are replaced again by folders, then also
+make sure you disable mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service as it
+helpfully nukes the symlinks (the update does this but perhaps it's
+somehow been run/re-enabled?)
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 09/12/12 18:48 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 9 December 2012 13:18, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So I've just pushed the package mageia-prepare-upgrade to mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> core/updates_testing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This package, when installed will add a new menu option to your
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bootloader. Simply install this package, reboot, select the &quot;Mageia 3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Upgrade Preparation&quot; entry boot, wait while your FS is converted and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> then perform a urpmi upgrade as you would normally.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've not specifically tested the upgrade part, only the installation and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> creation of the initrd and bootloader entries in grub. I've also not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> done this on an mga2 machine yet but will do soon enough.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just wanted to get this package &quot;out there&quot; for anyone wanting to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> update their mga2 machines to mga3 a3 but not wanting to use the installer.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> At present there are a few limitations:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. It requires kernel 3.3.8-2.mga2 to be installed (any flavour should
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> work). A specific kernel version is not really 100% necessary but it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> does mean I can add hard requires to the package. This is only desirable
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to prevent the situation where users install this upgrade package but do
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not run it and later remove the kernel used to generate the initrd for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the bootloader menu item, thus breaking it. Any smarter ideas on how to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> manage this welcome.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2. If you have /usr in a separate partition and have it mounted ro in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> your fstab, you will have to manually change the fstab to rw for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> upgrade boot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Happy testing. Let me know if it kills any kittens. Please keep a backup
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> etc. etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks Colin.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The conversion works. But then the problem shows, we have no network.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> doing a urpmi --download-all --auto-update only downloads the fist 120+ rpms (the ones needed before
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> restart-urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What is needed is to add some directories and then the network will start
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /var/run/netreport
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /var/lock/subsystem/network
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I will check after the upgrade if they can be deleted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, yes, I guess after doing the upgrade the various /var/run and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /var/lock folders would be nuked. In mga3 they will be created by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tmpfiles but not with a simple reboot on mga2...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, I wonder how best to do this... perhaps we could ship updated
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages for each of the packages which absolutely *need* this to do the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> download... or perhaps we could just ship some essential config tweaks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in the this mageia-prepare-upgrade file. It shouldn't do any harm to do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the latter and it's a bit easier on the QA folk.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Humm we could just package mageia-prepare-upgrade in mga3 and add
+</I>&gt;<i> it to urpmi priority list.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thus it would also work for people who never apply updates...
+</I>&gt;<i> My 2 cents
+</I>
+Not sure it would help. I mean users have to install it, reboot and then
+install the rest...
+
+Also how does the urpmi priority list work? Does that not require that
+we install urpmi first? If so that likely won't work as there is a
+chicken and egg scenario that prevents the rpm+urpmi from mga3 being
+installed until the fs is updated.
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+Basically, a fully up-to-date mga2 (including rpm package and the
+mageia-prepare-upgrade package) + reboot for preparation is needed for a
+urpmi-based upgrades to work.
+
+Col
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+&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 9.41-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 329208
+</I>&gt;<i> - add back check for wireless sysfs dir (P0, #8343)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + colin &lt;colin&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> - Fix up paths and use nice dir macros where possible
+</I>
+Then please remove *9.41* from core/updates_testing
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+&gt;<i> On 9 December 2012 22:27, tmb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 9.41-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 329208
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - add back check for wireless sysfs dir (P0, #8343)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + colin &lt;colin&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Fix up paths and use nice dir macros where possible
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then please remove *9.41* from core/updates_testing
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+&gt;<i> ennael &lt;ennael&gt; 15.4-2.mga3:
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+Er you should do such builds this locally...
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am trying to build the 389 dirsrv. When building lperl looks for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; libperl in /usr/lib/ but it cannot find it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Doing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ln -sf /usr/lib/perl5/5.16.1/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/CORE/libperl.so
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /usr/lib/libperl.so
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Solves the problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is this a feature or a bug? Do I need to patch the makefile of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 389dirsrv?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can use something like this to get the flags to use:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ perl -MExtUtils::Embed -e ldopts
+</I>&gt;<i> -Wl,-E -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib/perl5/5.12.3/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/CORE
+</I>&gt;<i> -fstack-protector -L/usr/local/lib64
+</I>&gt;<i> -L/usr/lib/perl5/5.12.3/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/CORE -lperl -lnsl
+</I>&gt;<i> -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lpthread -lc
+</I>
+I now need to do to cyrus-imapd as well.
+What has changed in Cauldron that now requires this?
+--
+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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+<PRE>Anssi Hannula skrev 27.11.2012 00:08:
+&gt;<i> 26.11.2012 19:25, Thomas Backlund kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tv skrev 26.11.2012 16:53:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Name : x11-driver-video-ati Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Version : 7.0.0 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Release : 2.mga3 Build Date: Mon Nov 26 15:52:14 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Note to all ati users...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Beginning with 7.0.0 series, this driver is KMS only.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so UMS mode (&quot;nokms&quot;) is no more useful with this driver....
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IIRC we will also need to update display_driver_helper (and maybe drakx)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to cope with this fact...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll disable the hack in display_driver_helper...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But should we now have ldetect-lst fallback to vesa on all radeon cards
+</I>&gt;<i> if no fw installed (&quot;DRIVER_NO_FIRMWARE vesa&quot;)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> According to the kernel driver code (AFAICS, that is) it should fallback
+</I>&gt;<i> to no acceleration in case of no firmware, but at least some time ago
+</I>&gt;<i> that apparently didn't happen properly...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think we need to fallback to vesa, as it does not matter if the kernel
+part works without firmware in ums mode, as the x11 driver wont support
+it anyway, making the x11-server start fail .
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+--
+Thomas
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+<PRE>10.12.2012 02:05, Thomas Backlund kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Anssi Hannula skrev 27.11.2012 00:08:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 26.11.2012 19:25, Thomas Backlund kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tv skrev 26.11.2012 16:53:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Name : x11-driver-video-ati Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Version : 7.0.0 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Release : 2.mga3 Build Date: Mon Nov 26 15:52:14 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Note to all ati users...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Beginning with 7.0.0 series, this driver is KMS only.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> so UMS mode (&quot;nokms&quot;) is no more useful with this driver....
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> IIRC we will also need to update display_driver_helper (and maybe drakx)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to cope with this fact...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'll disable the hack in display_driver_helper...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But should we now have ldetect-lst fallback to vesa on all radeon cards
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if no fw installed (&quot;DRIVER_NO_FIRMWARE vesa&quot;)?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> According to the kernel driver code (AFAICS, that is) it should fallback
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to no acceleration in case of no firmware, but at least some time ago
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that apparently didn't happen properly...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think we need to fallback to vesa, as it does not matter if the kernel
+</I>&gt;<i> part works without firmware in ums mode, as the x11 driver wont support
+</I>&gt;<i> it anyway, making the x11-server start fail .
+</I>
+I meant that AFAIK KMS should work without acceleration without firmware
+for old cards (for new cards we already default to vesa), but if this
+still doesn't work properly, we need to default to vesa for them as well.
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+--
+Anssi Hannula
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+&gt;&gt;<i> No, I want pod errors to be found prior submitting them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And I don't want to manually run several tests.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Before all I had to do was to run &quot;make test&quot; and it reported me
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> any errors before commiting.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now it doesn't anymore.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> make test TEST_AUTHOR=1
+</I>&gt;<i> or drop the conditional in the tests.
+</I>
+so what's the difference with the older test?
+You lamented old test didn't work standalone if blib wasn't created
+but eventually in both cases, you need to run &quot;make test&quot;
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Well, if that mean less quality testsuite and if you refuse to answer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reviewing,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'll eventually revert those or at least put back the old working pod
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> test.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just revert. Or try to show minimal interest in external contributions,
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of plain hostility.
+</I>
+what?
+you added tests w/o any doc nor useful commit (&quot;initial import&quot;)
+When I told you they overlap existing tests, you claim existing ones
+don't work and you just wip them w/o communicating.
+I then show you that:
+1) old one works and do fine issues when there'se one before
+committing or releasing
+2) new ones silently don't work (only found by accident when looking
+at &quot;make test&quot; output
+3) you claim new ones work by passing magic undocumented env variable
+when they don't
+
+So what's the interest of your new tests?
+The only change is that I silently cannot see newly introduced errors.
+What's the use to the maintainer?
+
+So I did show interest in external contributions and as usual I do peer review.
+This has enabled others to take interest in various pieces of our tools.
+But you failed to answer my questions when I made some observations and when
+I showed you old tests worked whereas new ones don't.
+Same when I asked you to add the needed BR to the spec file in order
+to ensure next version upload would work.
+Your only answer is to attack me whereas I'm pointing at actual facts.
+
+So please stop trolling aka personal attacks and explain to me how
+disabling tests for maintainers
+(aka making them not working w/o some magic
+undocumented/uncommunicated variable)
+is contributing?
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+I just want pod-syntax.t to be always run.
+So eventually the pod syntax new test is just the old one but less
+readable and not working by default:
+- some magic values testing in order not to be run
+- using English in order to rename variables
+- replacing use by require+import
+
+It would just have been simple to ask before, hasn't it?
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+&gt;<i> Revision 6666 Author pterjan Date 2012-12-10 10:38:17 +0100 (Mon, 10 Dec
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012)
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+Le 10/12/2012 10:39, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:38 AM, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Revision 6666 Author pterjan Date 2012-12-10 10:38:17 +0100 (Mon,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 10 Dec 2012)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> foo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> oops forgot to squash the commit :(
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+6666, the commit of the beast!
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:38 AM, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Revision 6663 Author pterjan Date 2012-12-10 10:38:12 +0100 (Mon, 10 Dec
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> para
+</I>
+And this one did not get the one I changed in git, I will edit svn log :(
+
+&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> build_system/iurt/trunk/iurt
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified: build_system/iurt/trunk/iurt
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- build_system/iurt/trunk/iurt 2012-12-10 03:38:14 UTC (rev 6662)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ build_system/iurt/trunk/iurt 2012-12-10 09:38:12 UTC (rev 6663)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -173,6 +173,9 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> [ &quot;&quot;, &quot;concurrent-run&quot;, 0, &quot;&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Allow several iurt to run on different machines (slower)&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> sub { $run{concurrent_run} = 1 }, &quot;Activating concurrent run checks&quot; ],
+</I>&gt;<i> + [ &quot;&quot;, &quot;parallel&quot;, 1, &quot;&lt;n&gt;&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> + &quot;Build up to &lt;n&gt; packages in parallel&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> + sub {($run{parallel}) = @_; 1}, &quot;Enabling parallel build&quot; ],
+</I>&gt;<i> [ &quot;d&quot;, &quot;dir&quot;, -1, &quot;&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Directory where to find packages to rebuild&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> sub { $run{extra_dir} = \@_; 1 }, &quot;Adding extra source packages
+</I>&gt;<i> directories&quot; ],
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -813,33 +816,16 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> #$SIG{INT} = $s;
+</I>&gt;<i> $run{main} = 1;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -my $rebuild;
+</I>&gt;<i> -$run{group} = 0 if @{$run{todo}} == 1;
+</I>&gt;<i> -if ($run{group}) {
+</I>&gt;<i> - $rebuild = 1;
+</I>&gt;<i> - $urpmi-&gt;set_local_media($local_spool);
+</I>&gt;<i> - $urpmi-&gt;order_packages(\%provides, $luser)
+</I>&gt;<i> - or die &quot;FATAL $program_name: could not order packages&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i> -}
+</I>&gt;<i> -#
+</I>&gt;<i> -# The build loop
+</I>&gt;<i> -#
+</I>&gt;<i> -my $prev_done = $done;
+</I>&gt;<i> -do {
+</I>&gt;<i> - $rebuild = 0;
+</I>&gt;<i> - $done = $prev_done;
+</I>&gt;<i> - my $i;
+</I>&gt;<i> - for ($i; $i &lt; @{$run{todo}}; $i++) {
+</I>&gt;<i> - my ($dir, $srpm, $status) = @{$run{todo}[$i]};
+</I>&gt;<i> -
+</I>&gt;<i> +sub rebuild_one {
+</I>&gt;<i> + my ($dir, $srpm, $status) = @_;
+</I>&gt;<i> # CM: Set argv[0] (in the C sense) to something we can easily spot and
+</I>&gt;<i> # understand in process list
+</I>&gt;<i> $0 = &quot;Iurt: $run{distro_tag} $run{my_arch} $run{media} $srpm&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - $status or next;
+</I>&gt;<i> - $done{$srpm} and next;
+</I>&gt;<i> + $status or return;
+</I>&gt;<i> + $done{$srpm} and return;
+</I>&gt;<i> $done{$srpm} = 1;
+</I>&gt;<i> - check_version(\%run, $srpm, \%srpm_version) or next;
+</I>&gt;<i> + check_version(\%run, $srpm, \%srpm_version) or return;
+</I>&gt;<i> if ($run{debug}) { $run{debug}++ == 2 and exit() }
+</I>&gt;<i> $done++;
+</I>&gt;<i> plog('NOTIFY', &quot;Build package $srpm [$done/$to_compile]&quot;);
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -849,7 +835,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> $run{status}{$srpm} = 'missing';
+</I>&gt;<i> dump_cache_par(\%run);
+</I>&gt;<i> dump_status($local_spool, \%run);
+</I>&gt;<i> - next;
+</I>&gt;<i> + return;
+</I>&gt;<i> }
+</I>&gt;<i> # FIXME unfortunately urpmi stalls quite often
+</I>&gt;<i> my $retry = 0;
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -864,14 +850,14 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> if (!$run{use_old_chroot}) {
+</I>&gt;<i> $chroot_tmp = create_temp_chroot(\%run, $config,
+</I>&gt;<i> - $chroot_tmp, $chroot_ref) or next;
+</I>&gt;<i> + $chroot_tmp, $chroot_ref) or return;
+</I>&gt;<i> }
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> if (!$urpmi-&gt;urpmi_command($chroot_tmp)) {
+</I>&gt;<i> plog('DEBUG', &quot;Creating chroot failed.\nCommand was: $chroot_tmp&quot;);
+</I>&gt;<i> - next;
+</I>&gt;<i> + return;
+</I>&gt;<i> }
+</I>&gt;<i> - $srpm =~ /(.*)-[^-]+-[^-]+\.src\.rpm$/ or next;
+</I>&gt;<i> + $srpm =~ /(.*)-[^-]+-[^-]+\.src\.rpm$/ or return;
+</I>&gt;<i> my ($maintainer, $cc);
+</I>&gt;<i> if (!$run{warn}) {
+</I>&gt;<i> ($maintainer) = get_maint(\%run, $srpm);
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -885,7 +871,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> #($maintainer, $cc) = ($config-&gt;{admin},'');
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> plog('DEBUG', &quot;creating user $luser in chroot&quot;);
+</I>&gt;<i> - add_local_user($chroot_tmp, \%run, $config, $luser, $run{uid}) or next;
+</I>&gt;<i> + add_local_user($chroot_tmp, \%run, $config, $luser, $run{uid}) or return;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> my $old_srpm = $srpm;
+</I>&gt;<i> my ($ret, $spec);
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -908,7 +894,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> $run{status}{$srpm} = 'recreate_srpm_failure';
+</I>&gt;<i> dump_cache_par(\%run);
+</I>&gt;<i> dump_status($local_spool, \%run);
+</I>&gt;<i> - next;
+</I>&gt;<i> + return;
+</I>&gt;<i> }
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (my $log_dirname = $srpm) =~ s/.*:(.*)\.src.rpm/$1/;
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -928,7 +914,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> my $ok = $urpmi-&gt;install_packages($srpm, $chroot_tmp, $local_spool,
+</I>&gt;<i> \%pack_provide, 'install_deps', &quot;[REBUILD] install of build dependencies of
+</I>&gt;<i> $srpm failed on $run{my_arch}&quot;, { maintainer =&gt; $maintainer },
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;$path_srpm/$srpm&quot;);
+</I>&gt;<i> if (!$ok) {
+</I>&gt;<i> $run{status}{$srpm} ||= 'install_deps_failure';
+</I>&gt;<i> - next;
+</I>&gt;<i> + return;
+</I>&gt;<i> }
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # try to workarround the rpm -qa db4 error(2) from dbcursor-&gt;c_get:
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -1009,7 +995,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> # 20060615
+</I>&gt;<i> dump_cache_par(\%run);
+</I>&gt;<i> dump_status($local_spool, \%run);
+</I>&gt;<i> - next;
+</I>&gt;<i> + return;
+</I>&gt;<i> }
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # do some cleaning if the compilation is successful
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -1019,7 +1005,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> opendir my $binfh, &quot;$chroot_tmp/home/$luser/rpmbuild/RPMS/&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i> my @packages;
+</I>&gt;<i> foreach my $bindir (readdir $binfh) {
+</I>&gt;<i> - -d &quot;$chroot_tmp/home/$luser/rpmbuild/RPMS/$bindir&quot; or next;
+</I>&gt;<i> + -d &quot;$chroot_tmp/home/$luser/rpmbuild/RPMS/$bindir&quot; or return;
+</I>&gt;<i> opendir my $rpmfh, &quot;$chroot_tmp/home/$luser/rpmbuild/RPMS/$bindir&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i> push @packages, map {
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;$chroot_tmp/home/$luser/rpmbuild/RPMS/$bindir/$_&quot; } grep { !/src\.rpm$/ &amp;&amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> /\.rpm$/ } readdir $rpmfh;
+</I>&gt;<i> }
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -1028,7 +1014,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> # segfaulting when trying to install packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> if ($config-&gt;{check_binary_file}) {
+</I>&gt;<i> - $urpmi-&gt;install_packages($srpm, $chroot_tmp, $local_spool,
+</I>&gt;<i> \%pack_provide, 'binary_test', &quot;[REBUILD] binaries packages generated from
+</I>&gt;<i> $srpm do not install correctly&quot;, { maintainer =&gt; $maintainer } <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">, at packages</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> or next;
+</I>&gt;<i> + $urpmi-&gt;install_packages($srpm, $chroot_tmp, $local_spool,
+</I>&gt;<i> \%pack_provide, 'binary_test', &quot;[REBUILD] binaries packages generated from
+</I>&gt;<i> $srpm do not install correctly&quot;, { maintainer =&gt; $maintainer } <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">, at packages</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> or return;
+</I>&gt;<i> } else {
+</I>&gt;<i> my $successfile = &quot;$local_spool/log/$srpm/binary_test_$srpm-1.log&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i> open my $f, &quot;&gt;$successfile&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -1066,7 +1052,64 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> dump_status($local_spool, \%run);
+</I>&gt;<i> # dump_cache each time so that concurrent process can get updated
+</I>&gt;<i> dump_cache_par(\%run) if $run{concurrent_run};
+</I>&gt;<i> + return 1;
+</I>&gt;<i> +}
+</I>&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;<i> +my $rebuild;
+</I>&gt;<i> +$run{group} = 0 if @{$run{todo}} == 1;
+</I>&gt;<i> +if ($run{group}) {
+</I>&gt;<i> + $rebuild = 1;
+</I>&gt;<i> + $urpmi-&gt;set_local_media($local_spool);
+</I>&gt;<i> + $urpmi-&gt;order_packages(\%provides, $luser)
+</I>&gt;<i> + or die &quot;FATAL $program_name: could not order packages&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i> +}
+</I>&gt;<i> +#
+</I>&gt;<i> +# The build loop
+</I>&gt;<i> +#
+</I>&gt;<i> +my $prev_done = $done;
+</I>&gt;<i> +do {
+</I>&gt;<i> + $rebuild = 0;
+</I>&gt;<i> + $done = $prev_done;
+</I>&gt;<i> + my $i;
+</I>&gt;<i> + my %children;
+</I>&gt;<i> + for ($i; $i &lt; @{$run{todo}}; $i++) {
+</I>&gt;<i> + my ($dir, $srpm, $status) = @{$run{todo}[$i]};
+</I>&gt;<i> + if ($run{parallel}) {
+</I>&gt;<i> + my $pid;
+</I>&gt;<i> + # First cleanup all the finished ones
+</I>&gt;<i> + do {
+</I>&gt;<i> + $pid = waitpid(-1, WNOHANG);
+</I>&gt;<i> + if ($pid &gt; 0) {
+</I>&gt;<i> + plog('INFO', &quot;Child $pid has exited&quot;);
+</I>&gt;<i> + delete $children{$pid};
+</I>&gt;<i> + }
+</I>&gt;<i> + } while $pid &gt; 0;
+</I>&gt;<i> + while (scalar keys %children &gt;= $run{parallel}) {
+</I>&gt;<i> + plog('INFO', &quot;Too many children, waiting to fork more&quot;);
+</I>&gt;<i> + $pid = waitpid(-1, 0);
+</I>&gt;<i> + delete $children{$pid} if $pid &gt; 0;
+</I>&gt;<i> + }
+</I>&gt;<i> + my $pid = fork;
+</I>&gt;<i> + if ($pid) { #parent
+</I>&gt;<i> + $children{$pid} = 1;
+</I>&gt;<i> + } elsif ($pid == 0) { #child
+</I>&gt;<i> + $chroot_tmp .= &quot;_&quot; . int($i);
+</I>&gt;<i> + rebuild_one($dir, $srpm, $status);
+</I>&gt;<i> + exit;
+</I>&gt;<i> + } else {
+</I>&gt;<i> + die &quot;could not fork&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i> + }
+</I>&gt;<i> + } else {
+</I>&gt;<i> + rebuild_one($dir, $srpm, $status);
+</I>&gt;<i> + }
+</I>&gt;<i> }
+</I>&gt;<i> + if ($run{parallel}) {
+</I>&gt;<i> + foreach my $pid (keys %children) {
+</I>&gt;<i> + plog('INFO', &quot;Waiting for process $pid to exit&quot;);
+</I>&gt;<i> + waitpid($pid, 0);
+</I>&gt;<i> + delete $children{$pid};
+</I>&gt;<i> + }
+</I>&gt;<i> + }
+</I>&gt;<i> if ($run{group}) {
+</I>&gt;<i> my $i;
+</I>&gt;<i> for ($i; $i &lt; @{$run{todo}}; $i++) {
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Johnny A. Solbu at 08/12/12 10:37 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Saturday 8. December 2012 11.06, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Unless I misunderstand, adding it to &#171;task-obsolete&#187; does the same thing, with a 2 week delay on deleting.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So the proper action would be to add it to &#171;task-obsolete&#187;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's still not the proper action.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In other words, I did misunderstand.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Stop removing packages from end
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> user machines just to remove them from the mirrors as a side effect of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> our package submission procedure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So what should we do?
+</I>&gt;<i> The current packaging guidelines[1] says that this is the correct action for obsolete packages, which a depcrecated package is.
+</I>&gt;<i> If this is not the desired solution, then the guidelines should change. Perhaps just clairfied as to what is an obsolete package, which belongs in task-obsolete, and what is Not an obsolete package even if it's deprecated.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package</A>
+</I>
+I totally agree with Johnny here. If users want to keep unmaintained and
+no-longer-supplied packages on their machine (obviously making a
+concious decision to not get security updates etc. on such packages)
+then they are welcome to add task-obsolete to their urpmi skip lists.
+
+I see absolutely no problem with this and I don't consider this
+something that's done as a &quot;side effect&quot;, rather it's a quite deliberate
+and concious mechanism to remove no longer supported packages from a
+users machine.
+
+Col
+
+
+--
+
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+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Revision: 6573
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Author: boklm
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Date: 2012-12-04 22:15:33 +0100 (Tue, 04 Dec 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Log Message:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -----------
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Add script to rebuild a list of packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Added Paths:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -----------
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; release/trunk/rebuild-packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Isn't this duplicate with the magpie tool?
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://jquelin.blogspot.fr/2011/02/magpie-mageia-perl-integration-easy.html">http://jquelin.blogspot.fr/2011/02/magpie-mageia-perl-integration-easy.html</A>
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+Ah ? Is there something in magpie to rebuild a list of packages on the
+build system ?
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Johnny A. Solbu at 08/12/12 10:37 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Saturday 8. December 2012 11.06, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Unless I misunderstand, adding it to &#171;task-obsolete&#187; does the same thing, with a 2 week delay on deleting.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; So the proper action would be to add it to &#171;task-obsolete&#187;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; That's still not the proper action.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In other words, I did misunderstand.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Stop removing packages from end
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; user machines just to remove them from the mirrors as a side effect of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; our package submission procedure.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So what should we do?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The current packaging guidelines[1] says that this is the correct action for obsolete packages, which a depcrecated package is.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If this is not the desired solution, then the guidelines should change. Perhaps just clairfied as to what is an obsolete package, which belongs in task-obsolete, and what is Not an obsolete package even if it's deprecated.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [1] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I totally agree with Johnny here. If users want to keep unmaintained and
+</I>&gt;<i> no-longer-supplied packages on their machine (obviously making a
+</I>&gt;<i> concious decision to not get security updates etc. on such packages)
+</I>&gt;<i> then they are welcome to add task-obsolete to their urpmi skip lists.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I see absolutely no problem with this and I don't consider this
+</I>&gt;<i> something that's done as a &quot;side effect&quot;, rather it's a quite deliberate
+</I>&gt;<i> and concious mechanism to remove no longer supported packages from a
+</I>&gt;<i> users machine.
+</I>
+One of the problem with task-obsolete obsoleting packages is that it can
+silently uninstall packages and break something which was working,
+without warning.
+
+Maybe instead of obsoleting packages, task-obsolete could conflict with
+those packages :
+ - users who want to remove unsupported packages install task-obsolete,
+ and have a warning from rpmdrake/urpmi before conflicting packages
+ are removed
+ - users who don't want to remove unsupported packages don't install
+ task-obsolete. They can still ask urpmi to install task-obsolete to
+ see the list of packages it would remove.
+
+Or we can stop using task-obsolete package, and instead create a file
+&quot;unsupported&quot; in media_info directory on the mirrors containing a list
+of unsupported packages, and used by urpmq/urpme --unsupported to
+list/remove unsupported packages.
+
+What do you think ?
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+<PRE>On 10 December 2012 15:27, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> I totally agree with Johnny here. If users want to keep unmaintained and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> no-longer-supplied packages on their machine (obviously making a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> concious decision to not get security updates etc. on such packages)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> then they are welcome to add task-obsolete to their urpmi skip lists.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I see absolutely no problem with this and I don't consider this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something that's done as a &quot;side effect&quot;, rather it's a quite deliberate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and concious mechanism to remove no longer supported packages from a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> users machine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One of the problem with task-obsolete obsoleting packages is that it can
+</I>&gt;<i> silently uninstall packages and break something which was working,
+</I>&gt;<i> without warning.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe instead of obsoleting packages, task-obsolete could conflict with
+</I>&gt;<i> those packages :
+</I>
+That won't work, if it's a conflicts instead of an obsoletes,
+urpmi/drakx/rpmdrake
+will _never_ pick it.
+That's just not the way it works.
+
+&gt;<i> - users who want to remove unsupported packages install task-obsolete,
+</I>&gt;<i> and have a warning from rpmdrake/urpmi before conflicting packages
+</I>&gt;<i> are removed
+</I>
+Meaning nobody will install it in practice.
+Meaning people will have some unsecure packages b/c 0.001% want
+to keep an unsecure/unmaintained stuff, meaning we'll got bug reports
+about packages we don't maintain anymore.
+
+&gt;<i> - users who don't want to remove unsupported packages don't install
+</I>&gt;<i> task-obsolete. They can still ask urpmi to install task-obsolete to
+</I>&gt;<i> see the list of packages it would remove.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or we can stop using task-obsolete package, and instead create a file
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;unsupported&quot; in media_info directory on the mirrors containing a list
+</I>&gt;<i> of unsupported packages, and used by urpmq/urpme --unsupported to
+</I>&gt;<i> list/remove unsupported packages.
+</I>
+That would mean most people will never see it where 0.0001% of users
+would want them not to be installed.
+
+My 2 cents
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and nicolas vigier at 10/12/12 14:27 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Johnny A. Solbu at 08/12/12 10:37 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Saturday 8. December 2012 11.06, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Unless I misunderstand, adding it to &#171;task-obsolete&#187; does the same thing, with a 2 week delay on deleting.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So the proper action would be to add it to &#171;task-obsolete&#187;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That's still not the proper action.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In other words, I did misunderstand.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Stop removing packages from end
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> user machines just to remove them from the mirrors as a side effect of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> our package submission procedure.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So what should we do?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The current packaging guidelines[1] says that this is the correct action for obsolete packages, which a depcrecated package is.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If this is not the desired solution, then the guidelines should change. Perhaps just clairfied as to what is an obsolete package, which belongs in task-obsolete, and what is Not an obsolete package even if it's deprecated.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [1] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I totally agree with Johnny here. If users want to keep unmaintained and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> no-longer-supplied packages on their machine (obviously making a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> concious decision to not get security updates etc. on such packages)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> then they are welcome to add task-obsolete to their urpmi skip lists.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I see absolutely no problem with this and I don't consider this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something that's done as a &quot;side effect&quot;, rather it's a quite deliberate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and concious mechanism to remove no longer supported packages from a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> users machine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One of the problem with task-obsolete obsoleting packages is that it can
+</I>&gt;<i> silently uninstall packages and break something which was working,
+</I>&gt;<i> without warning.
+</I>
+I don't disagree, but by the same token if a user is advanced enough to
+use such things with stuff they have installed manually, then chances
+are they're advanced enough to uninstall and block task-obsolete too.
+The fact that there is no-warning is certainly not ideal, but I doubt it
+would be an actual real problem to many users anyway. And it's not like
+they can't just find a mirror with the package they had installed and
+reinstall it again anyway when they notice it breaks things. Not ideal I
+agree, but all the same, not terrible either.
+
+&gt;<i> Maybe instead of obsoleting packages, task-obsolete could conflict with
+</I>&gt;<i> those packages :
+</I>
+Could it obsolete *and* conflict packages and get the best of both
+worlds? If that was the case it should work both from a UI level and
+also from a structural (i.e. repository) level.
+
+If that works, then we just define a simple macro at the top of the spec
+and use it throughout:
+
+%kill foo
+%kill wibble
+
+etc. which automatically adds both the conflicts and the obsoletes tags.
+
+&gt;<i> Or we can stop using task-obsolete package, and instead create a file
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;unsupported&quot; in media_info directory on the mirrors containing a list
+</I>&gt;<i> of unsupported packages, and used by urpmq/urpme --unsupported to
+</I>&gt;<i> list/remove unsupported packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think ?
+</I>
+That would work too (although &quot;urpmq --not-available&quot; is almost the same
+as that anyway really and doesn't need a specific list).
+
+The problem still to be solved here however, is allowing packagers easy
+access to the process of doing the tidying without having to rely on
+someone from sysadmin manually doing some intervention.
+
+Col
+
+--
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+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Or we can stop using task-obsolete package, and instead create a file
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;unsupported&quot; in media_info directory on the mirrors containing a list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of unsupported packages, and used by urpmq/urpme --unsupported to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; list/remove unsupported packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would mean most people will never see it where 0.0001% of users
+</I>&gt;<i> would want them not to be installed.
+</I>
+MageiaUpdate could show a list of unsupported packages that are
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+&gt;<i> I see absolutely no problem with this and I don't consider this
+</I>&gt;<i> something that's done as a &quot;side effect&quot;, rather it's a quite deliberate
+</I>&gt;<i> and concious mechanism to remove no longer supported packages from a
+</I>&gt;<i> users machine.
+</I>Shikamaru never asked about end user machines, but about mirrors. Hence
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+- if you also want to remove old packages from end users machines, first
+think twice about the expected result, then update task-obsolete
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+And on the more general interest of using obsolete tags, I'd rather
+suggest to refrain from using them without a very good reason. In ten
+years of contribution, I've never seen the mandriva bugzilla drowned by
+bug reports about unsupported packages (the main argument in support of
+the current 'thou shall obsoletes anything that is not supported
+anymore' frenzy), whereas I've seen at least two recent painful episodes
+in cauldron caused by careless packagers...
+
+--
+BOFH excuse #234:
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+Someone is broadcasting pygmy packets and the router doesn't know how to
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Maybe instead of obsoleting packages, task-obsolete could conflict with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; those packages :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could it obsolete *and* conflict packages and get the best of both
+</I>&gt;<i> worlds? If that was the case it should work both from a UI level and
+</I>&gt;<i> also from a structural (i.e. repository) level.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If that works, then we just define a simple macro at the top of the spec
+</I>&gt;<i> and use it throughout:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %kill foo
+</I>&gt;<i> %kill wibble
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> etc. which automatically adds both the conflicts and the obsoletes tags.
+</I>
+I don't know what urpmi/rpmdrake is doing when there is both a conflict
+and an obsolete. If it is doing the same as what we have now with
+only obsolete, but with a warning, it looks like a good idea.
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+I copied pasted between two vim instances by just selecting the text...
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+<PRE>Le 10/12/2012 16:19, Robert Fox a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Sorry, the following packages cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - lib64goa-gir1.0-3.6.2-2.mga3.x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i> - lib64goa1.0_0-3.6.2-2.mga3.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied
+</I>&gt;<i> &#194;&#187;&#194;&#183;&#194;&#183;&#194;&#183;&#194;&#183;&#194;&#183;&#194;&#183;gnome-online-accounts[&gt;= 3.6.2])
+</I>
+Already fixed by Colin.
+Wait for your updates server to be up to date.
+--
+Damien Lallement
+twitter: damsweb - IRC: damsweb/coincoin
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+&gt;<i> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:25:31 PM Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I am trying to build the 389 dirsrv. When building lperl looks for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; libperl in /usr/lib/ but it cannot find it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Doing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ln -sf /usr/lib/perl5/5.16.1/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/CORE/libperl.so
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; /usr/lib/libperl.so
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Solves the problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Is this a feature or a bug? Do I need to patch the makefile of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 389dirsrv?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You can use something like this to get the flags to use:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; $ perl -MExtUtils::Embed -e ldopts
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -Wl,-E -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib/perl5/5.12.3/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/CORE
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -fstack-protector -L/usr/local/lib64
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -L/usr/lib/perl5/5.12.3/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/CORE -lperl -lnsl
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lpthread -lc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I now need to do to cyrus-imapd as well.
+</I>&gt;<i> What has changed in Cauldron that now requires this?
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+<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+Hash: SHA1
+
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at cauldron</A> ~ # urpmi munin-node
+Pour satisfaire les d&#233;pendances, les paquetages suivants vont &#234;tre
+install&#233;s :
+ Paquetage Version R&#233;vision Arch
+(m&#233;dia &#171; Core Release &#187;)
+ munin-node 2.0.9 1.mga3 noarch
+ perl-Crypt-DES 2.05 12.mga3 i586
+ perl-IO-Multiplex 1.130.0 1.mga1 noarch
+ perl-Net-SNMP 6.0.1 1.mga1 noarch
+ perl-Net-Server 2.6.0 1.mga3 noarch
+ sysstat 10.1.2 1.mga3 i586
+un espace additionnel de 3.2Mo sera utilis&#233;.
+834Ko de paquets seront r&#233;cup&#233;r&#233;s.
+Proc&#233;der &#224; l'installation des 6 paquetages ? (O/n)
+
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+ <A HREF="http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/mageia.cauldron.i586.list:">http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/mageia.cauldron.i586.list:</A>
+media/core/release/perl-Net-Server-2.6.0-1.mga3.noarch.rpm
+ <A HREF="http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/mageia.cauldron.i586.list:">http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/mageia.cauldron.i586.list:</A>
+media/core/release/sysstat-10.1.2-1.mga3.i586.rpm
+
+ <A HREF="http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/mageia.cauldron.i586.list:">http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/mageia.cauldron.i586.list:</A>
+media/core/release/perl-Crypt-DES-2.05-12.mga3.i586.rpm
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+ <A HREF="http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/mageia.cauldron.i586.list:">http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/mageia.cauldron.i586.list:</A>
+media/core/release/perl-Net-SNMP-6.0.1-1.mga1.noarch.rpm
+
+ <A HREF="http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/mageia.cauldron.i586.list:">http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/mageia.cauldron.i586.list:</A>
+media/core/release/munin-node-2.0.9-1.mga3.noarch.rpm
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+ <A HREF="http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/mageia.cauldron.i586.list:">http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/mageia.cauldron.i586.list:</A>
+media/core/release/perl-IO-Multiplex-1.130.0-1.mga1.noarch.rpm
+
+installation de perl-Net-Server-2.6.0-1.mga3.noarch.rpm
+sysstat-10.1.2-1.mga3.i586.rpm perl-Crypt-DES-2.05-12.mga3.i586.rpm
+perl-IO-Multiplex-1.130.0-1.mga1.noarch.rpm
+munin-node-2.0.9-1.mga3.noarch.rpm
+perl-Net-SNMP-6.0.1-1.mga1.noarch.rpm depuis /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+Pr&#233;paration...
+############################################################################################################
+ 1/6: perl-IO-Multiplex
+############################################################################################################
+ 2/6: perl-Net-Server
+############################################################################################################
+ 3/6: perl-Crypt-DES
+############################################################################################################
+ 4/6: perl-Net-SNMP
+############################################################################################################
+ 5/6: sysstat
+############################################################################################################
+ 6/6: munin-node
+############################################################################################################
+# The following plugins caused errors:
+# hddtemp_smartctl:
+# Junk printed to stderr
+# ntp_states:
+# Non-zero exit during autoconf (2)
+# proc:
+# In family 'auto' but doesn't have 'autoconf' capability
+# tomcat_:
+# Non-zero exit during autoconf (127)
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+<PRE>Le 10/12/2012 20:25, Sandro CAZZANIGA a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 6/6: munin-node
+</I>&gt;<i> ############################################################################################################
+</I>&gt;<i> # The following plugins caused errors:
+</I>&gt;<i> # hddtemp_smartctl:
+</I>&gt;<i> # Junk printed to stderr
+</I>&gt;<i> # ntp_states:
+</I>&gt;<i> # Non-zero exit during autoconf (2)
+</I>&gt;<i> # proc:
+</I>&gt;<i> # In family 'auto' but doesn't have 'autoconf' capability
+</I>&gt;<i> # tomcat_:
+</I>&gt;<i> # Non-zero exit during autoconf (127)
+</I>That's just the normal result of munin-node-configure, trying to run all
+its available plugins to find wich ones apply.
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+--
+BOFH excuse #120:
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+we just switched to FDDI.
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+Le 10/12/2012 22:09, Guillaume Rousse a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 10/12/2012 20:25, Sandro CAZZANIGA a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 6/6: munin-node
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ############################################################################################################
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I># The following plugins caused errors:
+&gt;&gt;<i> # hddtemp_smartctl: # Junk printed to stderr # ntp_states: #
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Non-zero exit during autoconf (2) # proc: # In family 'auto'
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but doesn't have 'autoconf' capability # tomcat_: # Non-zero
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> exit during autoconf (127)
+</I>&gt;<i> That's just the normal result of munin-node-configure, trying to
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+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Thanks Guillaume.
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+Kudos to Thierry for this! :-)
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+</I>&gt;<i> WELL DONE !! I hadn't done a fresh install for awhile, and hadn't had
+</I>&gt;<i> a chance to notice.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think this will do wonders for the usability of MGA3.
+</I>
+Yep still in wip, it was pushed last week, but was announced on council
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+It was used when iurt was used to build x86_64 packages when i586 were
+newer, it allowed to restart iurt without needing to scan the mirror
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Thierry Vignaud
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 10 December 2012 21:50, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Get rid of cache
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> meaning we now rely on btrfs snapshots?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This cache was a cache of the list of package that had been built / had failed
+</I>&gt;<i> It was used when iurt was used to build x86_64 packages when i586 were
+</I>&gt;<i> newer, it allowed to restart iurt without needing to scan the mirror
+</I>&gt;<i> again + had a feature to run several iurt on different machines with a
+</I>&gt;<i> cached shared over nfs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am also planning to get this whole way of using it out of iurt and
+</I>&gt;<i> make it only rebuild the packages requested on command line.
+</I>
+Does this mean you will break/remove the dkms rebuild support?
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+ <B>Remy CLOUARD</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 03:55:05PM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 10/12/2012 14:01, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;I see absolutely no problem with this and I don't consider this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;something that's done as a &quot;side effect&quot;, rather it's a quite deliberate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;and concious mechanism to remove no longer supported packages from a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;users machine.
+</I>&gt;<i> Shikamaru never asked about end user machines, but about mirrors.
+</I>&gt;<i> Hence my point:
+</I>&gt;<i> - if you just want to remove some files from the mirrors, ask an admin
+</I>&gt;<i> - if you also want to remove old packages from end users machines,
+</I>&gt;<i> first think twice about the expected result, then update
+</I>&gt;<i> task-obsolete
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And on the more general interest of using obsolete tags, I'd rather
+</I>&gt;<i> suggest to refrain from using them without a very good reason. In
+</I>&gt;<i> ten years of contribution, I've never seen the mandriva bugzilla
+</I>&gt;<i> drowned by bug reports about unsupported packages (the main argument
+</I>&gt;<i> in support of the current 'thou shall obsoletes anything that is not
+</I>&gt;<i> supported anymore' frenzy), whereas I've seen at least two recent
+</I>&gt;<i> painful episodes in cauldron caused by careless packagers...
+</I>Thanks, that pretty much clarify my intent indeed.
+
+At first I didn&#8217;t even know task-obsolete existed in the first place so
+I just followed the procedure Johnny explained. After understanding this
+mechanism I don&#8217;t feel it was the right thing to do in this case.
+
+First, because it&#8217;s a small ruby library that&#8217;s probably used by only a
+handful of people. Second, this library is removed because it&#8217;s eol&#8217;d
+upstream, but also because no other package use it. It seems to me that
+it can safely be removed from the mirrors, but removing it from boxes
+via task-obsolete seems a bit overkill to me, because that package would
+have been orphaned because nothing requires it (unless someone
+deliberately installed it, which I doubt)
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+I&#8217;m not yet sure about this but the way I see task-obsolete is that it
+should only be used for end-applications, and even then I&#8217;m not
+comfortable with silently removing things from people&#8217;s machines, I&#8217;d
+rather use Conflicts instead.
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+&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Thierry Vignaud
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 10 December 2012 21:50, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Get rid of cache
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> meaning we now rely on btrfs snapshots?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This cache was a cache of the list of package that had been built / had failed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It was used when iurt was used to build x86_64 packages when i586 were
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> newer, it allowed to restart iurt without needing to scan the mirror
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> again + had a feature to run several iurt on different machines with a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cached shared over nfs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am also planning to get this whole way of using it out of iurt and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> make it only rebuild the packages requested on command line.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Does this mean you will break/remove the dkms rebuild support?
+</I>
+I think it should be moved to an external script (but this code is
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Remy CLOUARD at 10/12/12 22:42 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> At first I didn&#8217;t even know task-obsolete existed in the first place so
+</I>&gt;<i> I just followed the procedure Johnny explained. After understanding this
+</I>&gt;<i> mechanism I don&#8217;t feel it was the right thing to do in this case.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First, because it&#8217;s a small ruby library that&#8217;s probably used by only a
+</I>&gt;<i> handful of people. Second, this library is removed because it&#8217;s eol&#8217;d
+</I>&gt;<i> upstream, but also because no other package use it. It seems to me that
+</I>&gt;<i> it can safely be removed from the mirrors, but removing it from boxes
+</I>&gt;<i> via task-obsolete seems a bit overkill to me, because that package would
+</I>&gt;<i> have been orphaned because nothing requires it (unless someone
+</I>&gt;<i> deliberately installed it, which I doubt)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I&#8217;m not yet sure about this but the way I see task-obsolete is that it
+</I>&gt;<i> should only be used for end-applications, and even then I&#8217;m not
+</I>&gt;<i> comfortable with silently removing things from people&#8217;s machines, I&#8217;d
+</I>&gt;<i> rather use Conflicts instead.
+</I>
+So what if we provide this library and someone uses it as a component in
+some other app they write.
+
+They likely have an expectation that it will continue to be supported
+and that any security vulnerabilities in it are detected and fixed.
+
+If we don't have a mechanism to remove (or at least very strongly
+recommend to remove) package we no longer support, then we are leaving
+users vulnerable.
+
+The orphans system is fine, but it's certainly not as strong a mechanism
+as I think is needed.
+
+Col
+
+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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+<PRE>On Monday 10. December 2012 23.42, Remy CLOUARD wrote:
+&gt;<i> this library is removed because it&#8217;s eol&#8217;d
+</I>&gt;<i> upstream, but also because no other package use it. It seems to me that
+</I>&gt;<i> it can safely be removed from the mirrors, but removing it from boxes
+</I>&gt;<i> via task-obsolete seems a bit overkill to me
+</I>
+Perhaps we need to discuss a policy regarding abandoned packages, as it's clearly not obvious to everyone what it is or should be.
+Like, when is an abandoned upstream package obsolete, and subject for inclusion in task-obsolete.
+
+One example of an old package which last release was in 2003, still works flawlessly and builds just fine, is apg. So the fact that seems to be abandoned upstream clearly is in and of itself not enouch to obsolete it.
+So there needs to be a criteria for defining something as obsolete and a candidate for task-obsolete.
+
+
+Another thing is that some pakcages listed in task-obsolete clearly doesn't belong there.
+I took a quick glance on the spec file for task-obsolete. and I notice that some of the packages listed should be listed in the packages that replace them.
+One example is &#171;policykit&#187; where the comment says is replaced by &#171;polkit&#187;. I've read in other mails on this list that in situations where a package is replaced by a package with another name, the new package should obsolete the old one.
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+<PRE>On Sunday, December 09, 2012 11:55:13 AM Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 09/12/12 18:48 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 9 December 2012 13:18, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; So I've just pushed the package mageia-prepare-upgrade to mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; core/updates_testing.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; This package, when installed will add a new menu option to your
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; bootloader. Simply install this package, reboot, select the &quot;Mageia 3
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Upgrade Preparation&quot; entry boot, wait while your FS is converted and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; then perform a urpmi upgrade as you would normally.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I've not specifically tested the upgrade part, only the installation
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and creation of the initrd and bootloader entries in grub. I've also
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; not done this on an mga2 machine yet but will do soon enough.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I just wanted to get this package &quot;out there&quot; for anyone wanting to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; update their mga2 machines to mga3 a3 but not wanting to use the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; installer.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; At present there are a few limitations:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 1. It requires kernel 3.3.8-2.mga2 to be installed (any flavour should
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; work). A specific kernel version is not really 100% necessary but it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; does mean I can add hard requires to the package. This is only
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; desirable to prevent the situation where users install this upgrade
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; package but do not run it and later remove the kernel used to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; generate the initrd for the bootloader menu item, thus breaking it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Any smarter ideas on how to manage this welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 2. If you have /usr in a separate partition and have it mounted ro in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; your fstab, you will have to manually change the fstab to rw for the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; upgrade boot.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Happy testing. Let me know if it kills any kittens. Please keep a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; backup etc. etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Col
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks Colin.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; The conversion works. But then the problem shows, we have no network.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; doing a urpmi --download-all --auto-update only downloads the fist 120+
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; rpms (the ones needed before restart-urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; What is needed is to add some directories and then the network will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; start /var/run/netreport
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; /var/lock/subsystem/network
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I will check after the upgrade if they can be deleted
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hmm, yes, I guess after doing the upgrade the various /var/run and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; /var/lock folders would be nuked. In mga3 they will be created by
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; tmpfiles but not with a simple reboot on mga2...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hmm, I wonder how best to do this... perhaps we could ship updated
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; packages for each of the packages which absolutely *need* this to do the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; download... or perhaps we could just ship some essential config tweaks
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; in the this mageia-prepare-upgrade file. It shouldn't do any harm to do
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the latter and it's a bit easier on the QA folk.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Humm we could just package mageia-prepare-upgrade in mga3 and add
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it to urpmi priority list.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thus it would also work for people who never apply updates...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; My 2 cents
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not sure it would help. I mean users have to install it, reboot and then
+</I>&gt;<i> install the rest...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also how does the urpmi priority list work? Does that not require that
+</I>&gt;<i> we install urpmi first? If so that likely won't work as there is a
+</I>&gt;<i> chicken and egg scenario that prevents the rpm+urpmi from mga3 being
+</I>&gt;<i> installed until the fs is updated.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Basically, a fully up-to-date mga2 (including rpm package and the
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-prepare-upgrade package) + reboot for preparation is needed for a
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi-based upgrades to work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+OK, I started all over again from a completed mga 2 with all updates.
+The requires are: Pizza and beer
+install mageia-prepare-upgrade
+change sources to cauldron
+reboot with mageia-prepare-ugrade
+
+eat pizza and drink beer, it takes a lot of time to pass all the time-outs
+
+(it will boot into a none graphic shell)
+login as root ans then startx
+ create /var/run and then start the network
+after network runs, remove the /var/run (otherwise filesystem will not install)
+
+then use urpmi --auto-update
+
+( got the message &quot;/&quot; is mount read-only a few times and had to re-boot and go throught the
+/var/run cycle as desribed above)
+
+This got me a full up-to-date cauldron
+
+
+--
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+Thomas Spuhler
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+<PRE>On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:41:38PM +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> So what if we provide this library and someone uses it as a component in
+</I>&gt;<i> some other app they write.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> They likely have an expectation that it will continue to be supported
+</I>&gt;<i> and that any security vulnerabilities in it are detected and fixed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we don't have a mechanism to remove (or at least very strongly
+</I>&gt;<i> recommend to remove) package we no longer support, then we are leaving
+</I>&gt;<i> users vulnerable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The orphans system is fine, but it's certainly not as strong a mechanism
+</I>&gt;<i> as I think is needed.
+</I>Well, that would be very lazy from that person not to test the app and
+release it. Actually, the ruby community has a strong focus on test
+driven development. Since that library is broken with ruby 1.9, it won&#8217;t
+pass the first test. So no worries here. Actually, I&#8217;m pretty sure it
+couldn&#8217;t even stay on the machine just because it is linked against
+libruby.so.1.8, and we provide libruby.so.1.9.
+
+In the ruby policy I added as a requirement a
+Requires: ruby(abi) = version
+I&#8217;m pleased to see this is now an automatic thing, meaning that a
+package that&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t build won&#8217;t stand a chance to stay on people&#8217;s
+machine.
+
+That being said it still requires human intervention to remove it from
+the mirrors.
+
+To me this is a rather sane way to deal with the problem, because it&#8217;s
+self-explanatory: the package can&#8217;t stay because its requirements are
+not met. If you add it to task-obsolete, you provide no reason to the
+user, most of the time the explanation is only a comment in
+task-obsolete&#8217;s spec file.
+
+Regards,
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> colin(at)mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Remy CLOUARD at 11/12/12 06:38 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:41:38PM +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So what if we provide this library and someone uses it as a component in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some other app they write.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> They likely have an expectation that it will continue to be supported
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and that any security vulnerabilities in it are detected and fixed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If we don't have a mechanism to remove (or at least very strongly
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> recommend to remove) package we no longer support, then we are leaving
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> users vulnerable.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The orphans system is fine, but it's certainly not as strong a mechanism
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as I think is needed.
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, that would be very lazy from that person not to test the app and
+</I>&gt;<i> release it. Actually, the ruby community has a strong focus on test
+</I>&gt;<i> driven development. Since that library is broken with ruby 1.9, it won&#8217;t
+</I>&gt;<i> pass the first test. So no worries here. Actually, I&#8217;m pretty sure it
+</I>&gt;<i> couldn&#8217;t even stay on the machine just because it is linked against
+</I>&gt;<i> libruby.so.1.8, and we provide libruby.so.1.9.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the ruby policy I added as a requirement a
+</I>&gt;<i> Requires: ruby(abi) = version
+</I>&gt;<i> I&#8217;m pleased to see this is now an automatic thing, meaning that a
+</I>&gt;<i> package that&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t build won&#8217;t stand a chance to stay on people&#8217;s
+</I>&gt;<i> machine.
+</I>
+Yes, but keep in mind that the task-obsolete thing is not just about
+ruby and it also shouldn't rely on people not being lazy and releasing
+something. Perhaps their app is not for public release anyway.
+
+So sadly, we can't design mechanisms around this structure.
+
+&gt;<i> That being said it still requires human intervention to remove it from
+</I>&gt;<i> the mirrors.
+</I>
+I wonder if we could have a helper that runs on svn commit hook when a
+package is moved to the old tree? That would avoid the task-obsolete
+&quot;abuse&quot; but still doesn't provide a mechanism to remove from users
+machines...
+
+&gt;<i> To me this is a rather sane way to deal with the problem, because it&#8217;s
+</I>&gt;<i> self-explanatory: the package can&#8217;t stay because its requirements are
+</I>&gt;<i> not met. If you add it to task-obsolete, you provide no reason to the
+</I>&gt;<i> user, most of the time the explanation is only a comment in
+</I>&gt;<i> task-obsolete&#8217;s spec file.
+</I>
+This only works when it's true :) Sometimes a package is dropped because
+it doesn't build with newer gcc and there is no maintainer or enough
+users to merit it being fixed. Lots of things other than &quot;requirements
+not met&quot; result in packages being dropped. And if they are dropped they
+are not supported and we do not accept bug reports etc. etc. These
+packages should, in theory, be removed from a users machine unless the
+user takes very specific action to block this.
+
+Personally I'd be more in favour of expanding the urpmq --not-available
+system. It could just be beefed up to allow exclusions (like skip.list,
+but rather a keep.list). Then a urpme --not-available could be added to
+remove any no longer available packages.
+
+This would require GUI enhancements but it might be a good compromise here.
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 11/12/12 04:51 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Sunday, December 09, 2012 11:55:13 AM Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 09/12/12 18:48 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 9 December 2012 13:18, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So I've just pushed the package mageia-prepare-upgrade to mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> core/updates_testing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This package, when installed will add a new menu option to your
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bootloader. Simply install this package, reboot, select the &quot;Mageia 3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Upgrade Preparation&quot; entry boot, wait while your FS is converted and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> then perform a urpmi upgrade as you would normally.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've not specifically tested the upgrade part, only the installation
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and creation of the initrd and bootloader entries in grub. I've also
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not done this on an mga2 machine yet but will do soon enough.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just wanted to get this package &quot;out there&quot; for anyone wanting to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> update their mga2 machines to mga3 a3 but not wanting to use the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installer.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> At present there are a few limitations:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. It requires kernel 3.3.8-2.mga2 to be installed (any flavour should
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> work). A specific kernel version is not really 100% necessary but it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> does mean I can add hard requires to the package. This is only
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> desirable to prevent the situation where users install this upgrade
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> package but do not run it and later remove the kernel used to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> generate the initrd for the bootloader menu item, thus breaking it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any smarter ideas on how to manage this welcome.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2. If you have /usr in a separate partition and have it mounted ro in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> your fstab, you will have to manually change the fstab to rw for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> upgrade boot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Happy testing. Let me know if it kills any kittens. Please keep a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> backup etc. etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks Colin.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The conversion works. But then the problem shows, we have no network.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> doing a urpmi --download-all --auto-update only downloads the fist 120+
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpms (the ones needed before restart-urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What is needed is to add some directories and then the network will
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> start /var/run/netreport
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /var/lock/subsystem/network
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I will check after the upgrade if they can be deleted
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, yes, I guess after doing the upgrade the various /var/run and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /var/lock folders would be nuked. In mga3 they will be created by
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tmpfiles but not with a simple reboot on mga2...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, I wonder how best to do this... perhaps we could ship updated
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packages for each of the packages which absolutely *need* this to do the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> download... or perhaps we could just ship some essential config tweaks
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in the this mageia-prepare-upgrade file. It shouldn't do any harm to do
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the latter and it's a bit easier on the QA folk.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Humm we could just package mageia-prepare-upgrade in mga3 and add
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it to urpmi priority list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thus it would also work for people who never apply updates...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> My 2 cents
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Not sure it would help. I mean users have to install it, reboot and then
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> install the rest...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also how does the urpmi priority list work? Does that not require that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we install urpmi first? If so that likely won't work as there is a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> chicken and egg scenario that prevents the rpm+urpmi from mga3 being
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed until the fs is updated.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Basically, a fully up-to-date mga2 (including rpm package and the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia-prepare-upgrade package) + reboot for preparation is needed for a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> urpmi-based upgrades to work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, I started all over again from a completed mga 2 with all updates.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> The requires are: Pizza and beer
+</I>
+:<i>D
+</I>
+&gt;<i> install mageia-prepare-upgrade
+</I>&gt;<i> change sources to cauldron
+</I>
+No need to change sources yet, but no harm in it either.
+
+&gt;<i> reboot with mageia-prepare-ugrade
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> eat pizza and drink beer, it takes a lot of time to pass all the time-outs
+</I>
+Hmm, this shouldn't take long... Especially if /usr is on the same
+partition as / (it should take &lt; 30s then really as it's &quot;copying&quot; using
+hardlinks which are very quick). What kind of timeouts are you seeing here?
+
+Perhaps remove &quot;silent&quot; and &quot;splash&quot; here to get more verbose output.
+
+&gt;<i> (it will boot into a none graphic shell)
+</I>
+Hmm, interesting. It seems the kernel entry added does not honour the
+vga= argument. Need to work out why that is not propagated from the
+other kernel entries.
+
+&gt;<i> login as root ans then startx
+</I>&gt;<i> create /var/run and then start the network
+</I>
+Hmm, you need to *create* /var/run? This definitely should not be
+needed. Are you saying you have no /var/run symlink?
+
+This should have been added as part of the conversion process.
+
+Can I ask:
+ 1. Do you have /var on a separate partition?
+ 2. If so, did my updated package allow you to mount it OK in the initrd
+(you can pass rd.break=mount and then check the /sysroot/var dir to see
+if it's mounted - you will have to type &quot;exit&quot; once to actually do the
+mount IIRC).
+ 3. If the conversion is done with rd.break=prepivot, does the
+/sysroot/var/run symlink exist (again you may need to do &quot;exit&quot; once to
+actually trigger the conversion).
+
+If so, then something is later on *removing* the /var/run symlink again.
+
+In my earlier tests it was mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service that
+killed the symlinks. I made sure to disable it by rm'ing the symlink:
+/lib/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service
+
+I fear it is somehow still running for you and killing of /var/run.
+
+&gt;<i> after network runs, remove the /var/run (otherwise filesystem will not install)
+</I>
+No, /var/run should just be a symlink to /run then filesystem installs
+fine - this is how it's meant to be, but something somewhere is going wrong!
+
+&gt;<i> then use urpmi --auto-update
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ( got the message &quot;/&quot; is mount read-only a few times and had to re-boot and go throught the
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/run cycle as desribed above)
+</I>
+Something has to be nuking the /var/run symlink on your system.
+
+Does &quot;systemctl status mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service&quot; indicate
+it's been run? Does
+[/usr]/lib/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service
+still exist somehow?
+
+
+&gt;<i> This got me a full up-to-date cauldron
+</I>
+Glad you made it! Certainly still a few rough edges to get filed down
+tho' :)
+
+
+Thank you very much for testing this!!
+
+Col
+
+
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+&gt;<i> (grub2 coming too)
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Isn't this duplicate with the magpie tool?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://jquelin.blogspot.fr/2011/02/magpie-mageia-perl-integration-easy.html">http://jquelin.blogspot.fr/2011/02/magpie-mageia-perl-integration-easy.html</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Ah ? Is there something in magpie to rebuild a list of packages on the
+</I>&gt;<i> build system ?
+</I>
+No. &quot;magpie dwim&quot; will update local packages to their latest cpan
+version (and submit them), &quot;magpie sort&quot; will sort a list of packages
+needing a rebuild according to their requires.
+
+But nothing exists within magpie to do a mass rebuild. mdvsys used to be
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+&gt;<i> This package is in &quot;Tainted&quot; as it violates some patents.
+</I>Thanks Wally. Could this be done automatically in the future? If a
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:05 PM, wally &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This package is in &quot;Tainted&quot; as it violates some patents.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks Wally. Could this be done automatically in the future? If a
+</I>&gt;<i> tainted version exists, build the new release for tainted as well?
+</I>
+That's always been the plan... not sure how far it's progressed recently
+tho', I know some folk have been working on build-related scripts these
+past few days... not sure this is on that list tho'.
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+matteo &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Name : qscintilla Relocations: (not
+</I>&gt;<i> relocatable) Version : 2.7 Vendor:
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia.Org Release : 2.mga3 Build Date:
+</I>&gt;<i> Tue Dec 11 16:36:54 2012 Install Date: (not installed)
+</I>&gt;<i> Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org Group :
+</I>&gt;<i> System/Libraries Source RPM: (none) Size :
+</I>&gt;<i> 2846048 License: GPLv2+ Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager : matteo &lt;matteo&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/qscintilla/intro">http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/qscintilla/intro</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary : Port to Qt of Neil Hodgson's Scintilla C++ editor class
+</I>&gt;<i> Description : As well as features found in standard text editing
+</I>&gt;<i> components, QScintilla includes features especially useful when
+</I>&gt;<i> editing and debugging source code. These include support for syntax
+</I>&gt;<i> styling, error indicators, code completion and call tips. The
+</I>&gt;<i> selection margin can contain markers like those used in debuggers to
+</I>&gt;<i> indicate breakpoints and the current line. Styling choices are more
+</I>&gt;<i> open than with many editors, allowing the use of proportional fonts,
+</I>&gt;<i> bold and italics, multiple foreground and background colours and
+</I>&gt;<i> multiple fonts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> matteo &lt;matteo&gt; 2.7-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 329693
+</I>&gt;<i> - added missing conflict definition
+</I>
+This forces removal of the old lib.
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+IMHO better fix would've been splitting the translations out of the lib
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+The &quot;/usr move&quot; included the move of /var/run to /run, however this has
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+%dir %attr(0750,root,root) /var/run/quagga
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+Shouldn' this be changed ?
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+BTW: I recently updated a fresh mga2 to mga-cualdron and separated /var
+is still not handle automatically when moving /usr.
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+Regards.
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+ <B>Manuel Hiebel</B>
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+<PRE>Le 11/12/2012 13:03, Maurice Batey a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:58:21 +0100, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (grub2 coming too)
+</I>&gt;<i> As default, or as an option?
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+'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 11/12/12 16:26 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> The &quot;/usr move&quot; included the move of /var/run to /run, however this has
+</I>&gt;<i> not been done into packages, like quagga:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> %dir %attr(0750,root,root) /var/run/quagga
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shouldn' this be changed ?
+</I>
+Yes, I've mentioned this on the list a few times and also have worked
+through a few of the main, high profile packages already.
+
+I've also pushed a new rpmlint-mageia-policy update which bans files in
+/var/run, /var/lock and /run. It also bans udev rule files in
+/etc/udev.d and tmpfiles in /etc/ (the /etc/ tree is for admin config,
+and packaged files should be in /usr/lib/udev/rules.d and
+/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d respectively).
+
+It would be good to get this updated set of rules pushed to the
+infrastructure before the mass rebuild and beta2.
+
+Help here on updating packages is most welcome. The files/dirs in these
+folders basically need to be translated to tmpfiles configs instead.
+
+I've written a wiki page to document about how to handle tmpfiles:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/System_Service_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/System_Service_policy</A>
+
+This will give you a nice list:
+urpmf &quot;^/var/(run|lock)/&quot; | sort -u
+
+Unfortunetly in the last week or so, some new ones are appearing:
+
+ngircd
+tomcat
+
+so the sooner the lint policy is added the better IMO :)
+
+I do also still have one problem (reported on this list) that needs
+fixing that's the postfix+cyrus-sasl saslauth socket issue. Previously
+it was hardlinked, such that chrooted postfix worked OK. This is no
+longer possible due to it crossing filesystems, so we'll have to do some
+bind-mounting black magic I think :s
+
+&gt;<i> BTW: I recently updated a fresh mga2 to mga-cualdron and separated /var
+</I>&gt;<i> is still not handle automatically when moving /usr.
+</I>
+How recently? I pushed a new mageia-prepare-upgrade package to mga2
+core/updates_testing on Sunday which should handle /var mounting in the
+initramfs for processing the usrmove. Certainly it worked fine for me in
+my tests (ext4 / + swap + LVM /var and LVM /usr + encrypted LVM /home
+(all on the same Volume Group) and it worked fine with that somewhat
+overly complex example. Minor problem with the vga= line from the kernel
+not being propagated to the newly installed bootloader entry but other
+than that it worked fine, not tested with lilo tho' - only grub,
+although all manipulation is via our tools so should be OK in theory)
+
+I mentioned this already on the &quot;ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi&quot;
+thread which has seen several new posts over the last few days, so there
+may be some additional info in there.
+
+Hope this helps.
+
+Col
+
+
+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+I have updated versions of these packages (part of my /var/run updates)
+locally. Can I submit them? It updates both to the latest upstream, but
+I have no real way to test it properly.
+
+Col
+
+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+&gt;<i> matteo &lt;matteo&gt; 2.7-3.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 329742
+</I>&gt;<i> - obsoleting lib qscintilla2_8
+</I>Why ? The whole point of using versioned package names is to allow
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 09/12/12 12:14 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 'Twas brillig, and Remy CLOUARD at 08/12/12 12:25 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>...
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I&#8217;ve followed the procedure and could upgrade my system from 2 to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; cauldron, but I still have an issue with the filesystem package.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Somehow it seems like it fails to move /var/run to /run and /var/lock to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; /run/lock.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I would be glad if there could be a workaround for this.
+</I>...
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The only way out I think would be to manually do the symlink from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; another install.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Could you confirm that ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Actually yes, there is still a problem at present with /var on a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; separate partition... I need to look into that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So the latest package should mount /var in the initrd in much the same
+</I>&gt;<i> way it does with /usr (not exactly the same but I want to make the
+</I>&gt;<i> changes as unobtrusive as possible and ideally separate from the main
+</I>&gt;<i> dracut package for convenience of updating).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I presume your setup is such that /var is indeed on a separate partition?
+</I>Yeah, I don&#8217;t see the point of having a separate usr so that one went
+smoothly. However, having a separate /var is useful even on a desktop
+for me, because of /var/cache/urpmi (I had aptitude fill my / on a
+safe-upgrade that ended up not being that safe once so I kinda became
+paranoid :p)
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In order to fix this, simply mv the folders out the way and just do the
+</I>&gt;<i> symlinks manually - it'll mess up the current boot, but a reboot should
+</I>&gt;<i> fix it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>That&#8217;s what I did indeed, then I could upgrade filesystem, thanks for
+the answer ;)
+&gt;<i> If the symlinks disappear and are replaced again by folders, then also
+</I>&gt;<i> make sure you disable mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service as it
+</I>&gt;<i> helpfully nukes the symlinks (the update does this but perhaps it's
+</I>&gt;<i> somehow been run/re-enabled?)
+</I>Can&#8217;t answer for that, most of the time I never shutdown my laptop, only
+pm-suspend.
+
+I should also mention that each try at installing filesystem resulted in
+a temporary symlink being created like: lock;50b68005. I assume these
+symlinks can safely be removed, just thought I would point that out.
+
+Thanks for your help !
+
+Regards,
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>--
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+philippem &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Name : flamerobin Relocations: (not
+</I>&gt;<i> relocatable) Version : 0.9.2 Vendor:
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia.Org Release : 3.mga3 Build Date:
+</I>&gt;<i> Tue Dec 11 20:25:14 2012 Install Date: (not installed)
+</I>&gt;<i> Build Host: jonund.mageia.org Group :
+</I>&gt;<i> Databases Source RPM: (none) Size :
+</I>&gt;<i> 903807 License: BSD-like Signature :
+</I>&gt;<i> (none) Packager : philippem &lt;philippem&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://www.flamerobin.org/">http://www.flamerobin.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary : Graphical client for Firebird
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> FlameRobin is a database administration tool for Firebird DBMS based
+</I>&gt;<i> on wxgtk toolkit.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> philippem &lt;philippem&gt; 0.9.2-3.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 329795
+</I>&gt;<i> + rebuild (emptylog)
+</I>
+You should not use SILENT in all commit msgs between two releases. Or
+when there's only one commit with whole commit msg silenced and you bump
+the rel. All these breaks the %changelog. :(
+
+I'm pretty sure there are changes between releases to be shown in
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+[...]
+&gt;<i> &gt; I presume your setup is such that /var is indeed on a separate partition?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah, I don&#8217;t see the point of having a separate usr so that one went
+</I>&gt;<i> smoothly. However, having a separate /var is useful even on a desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> for me, because of /var/cache/urpmi (I had aptitude fill my / on a
+</I>&gt;<i> safe-upgrade that ended up not being that safe once so I kinda became
+</I>&gt;<i> paranoid :p)
+</I>[...]
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+<PRE>On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 03:56:30 AM Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 11/12/12 04:51 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sunday, December 09, 2012 11:55:13 AM Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 09/12/12 18:48 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On 9 December 2012 13:18, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; So I've just pushed the package mageia-prepare-upgrade to mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; core/updates_testing.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; This package, when installed will add a new menu option to your
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; bootloader. Simply install this package, reboot, select the &quot;Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 3 Upgrade Preparation&quot; entry boot, wait while your FS is converted
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and then perform a urpmi upgrade as you would normally.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I've not specifically tested the upgrade part, only the installation
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and creation of the initrd and bootloader entries in grub. I've also
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; not done this on an mga2 machine yet but will do soon enough.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I just wanted to get this package &quot;out there&quot; for anyone wanting to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; update their mga2 machines to mga3 a3 but not wanting to use the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; installer.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; At present there are a few limitations:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 1. It requires kernel 3.3.8-2.mga2 to be installed (any flavour
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; should work). A specific kernel version is not really 100%
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; necessary but it does mean I can add hard requires to the package.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; This is only desirable to prevent the situation where users install
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; this upgrade package but do not run it and later remove the kernel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; used to generate the initrd for the bootloader menu item, thus
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; breaking it. Any smarter ideas on how to manage this welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 2. If you have /usr in a separate partition and have it mounted ro
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in your fstab, you will have to manually change the fstab to rw for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the upgrade boot.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Happy testing. Let me know if it kills any kittens. Please keep a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; backup etc. etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Col
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks Colin.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The conversion works. But then the problem shows, we have no network.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; doing a urpmi --download-all --auto-update only downloads the fist
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 120+ rpms (the ones needed before restart-urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; What is needed is to add some directories and then the network will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; start /var/run/netreport
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; /var/lock/subsystem/network
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I will check after the upgrade if they can be deleted
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hmm, yes, I guess after doing the upgrade the various /var/run and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; /var/lock folders would be nuked. In mga3 they will be created by
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; tmpfiles but not with a simple reboot on mga2...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hmm, I wonder how best to do this... perhaps we could ship updated
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; packages for each of the packages which absolutely *need* this to do
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the download... or perhaps we could just ship some essential config
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; tweaks in the this mageia-prepare-upgrade file. It shouldn't do any
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; harm to do the latter and it's a bit easier on the QA folk.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Humm we could just package mageia-prepare-upgrade in mga3 and add
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; it to urpmi priority list.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Thus it would also work for people who never apply updates...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; My 2 cents
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Not sure it would help. I mean users have to install it, reboot and then
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; install the rest...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Also how does the urpmi priority list work? Does that not require that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; we install urpmi first? If so that likely won't work as there is a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; chicken and egg scenario that prevents the rpm+urpmi from mga3 being
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; installed until the fs is updated.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Basically, a fully up-to-date mga2 (including rpm package and the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; mageia-prepare-upgrade package) + reboot for preparation is needed for a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; urpmi-based upgrades to work.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Col
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; OK, I started all over again from a completed mga 2 with all updates.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The requires are: Pizza and beer
+</I>&gt;<i> :
+</I>&gt;<i> :D
+</I>&gt;<i> :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; install mageia-prepare-upgrade
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; change sources to cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No need to change sources yet, but no harm in it either.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; reboot with mageia-prepare-ugrade
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; eat pizza and drink beer, it takes a lot of time to pass all the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; time-outs
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm, this shouldn't take long... Especially if /usr is on the same
+</I>&gt;<i> partition as / (it should take &lt; 30s then really as it's &quot;copying&quot; using
+</I>&gt;<i> hardlinks which are very quick). What kind of timeouts are you seeing here?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps remove &quot;silent&quot; and &quot;splash&quot; here to get more verbose output.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (it will boot into a none graphic shell)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm, interesting. It seems the kernel entry added does not honour the
+</I>&gt;<i> vga= argument. Need to work out why that is not propagated from the
+</I>&gt;<i> other kernel entries.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; login as root ans then startx
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; create /var/run and then start the network
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm, you need to *create* /var/run? This definitely should not be
+</I>&gt;<i> needed. Are you saying you have no /var/run symlink?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This should have been added as part of the conversion process.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can I ask:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Do you have /var on a separate partition?
+</I>no, same patition. I have / swap and /home
+&gt;<i> 2. If so, did my updated package allow you to mount it OK in the initrd
+</I>&gt;<i> (you can pass rd.break=mount and then check the /sysroot/var dir to see
+</I>&gt;<i> if it's mounted - you will have to type &quot;exit&quot; once to actually do the
+</I>&gt;<i> mount IIRC).
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. If the conversion is done with rd.break=prepivot, does the
+</I>&gt;<i> /sysroot/var/run symlink exist (again you may need to do &quot;exit&quot; once to
+</I>&gt;<i> actually trigger the conversion).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If so, then something is later on *removing* the /var/run symlink again.
+</I>I only know its not there and that is why the network doesn't start. Also about for other services
+need to timeout during boot because of the missing /var/run
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In my earlier tests it was mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service that
+</I>&gt;<i> killed the symlinks. I made sure to disable it by rm'ing the symlink:
+</I>&gt;<i> /lib/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.servic
+</I>&gt;<i> e
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I fear it is somehow still running for you and killing of /var/run.
+</I>Could be but I don't know what. I know need the system to do some packaging.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; after network runs, remove the /var/run (otherwise filesystem will not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; install)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, /var/run should just be a symlink to /run then filesystem installs
+</I>&gt;<i> fine - this is how it's meant to be, but something somewhere is going
+</I>&gt;<i> wrong!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; then use urpmi --auto-update
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( got the message &quot;/&quot; is mount read-only a few times and had to re-boot
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and go throught the /var/run cycle as desribed above)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Something has to be nuking the /var/run symlink on your system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Does &quot;systemctl status mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service&quot; indicate
+</I>&gt;<i> it's been run? Does
+</I>&gt;<i> [/usr]/lib/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.
+</I>&gt;<i> service still exist somehow?
+</I>not anymore. Teh problem went away after about 1,000packges have been upgraded or maybe before.
+I still have
+mandriva-boot-links
+mandriva-save-dmesg
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This got me a full up-to-date cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Glad you made it! Certainly still a few rough edges to get filed down
+</I>&gt;<i> tho' :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank you very much for testing this!!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
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+Thomas Spuhler
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 11/12/12 19:56 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Op dinsdag 11 december 2012 20:27:23 schreef Remy CLOUARD:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I presume your setup is such that /var is indeed on a separate partition?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yeah, I don&#8217;t see the point of having a separate usr so that one went
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> smoothly. However, having a separate /var is useful even on a desktop
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for me, because of /var/cache/urpmi (I had aptitude fill my / on a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> safe-upgrade that ended up not being that safe once so I kinda became
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> paranoid :p)
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this reminds me... what should we do with /var/cache ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/cache/urpmi-proxy could potentially take quite some space...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> how should i handle that?
+</I>
+What do you mean specifically? We don't touch /var/cache with the
+usrmove, only /var/run and /var/lock.
+
+Personally, most of my free space is on /home so my urpmi-proxy is
+configured to use /home/urpmi-proxy/ instead...
+
+Col
+
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+<PRE>On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Jose Jorge &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lists.jjorge at free.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> I had packaged totem-plugin-arte for Mandriva, I can take a look at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it. I'm not running Cauldron though, so I cannot test it if I import
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it. Anyone interested in testing a cauldron build?
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, if this is ARTE fr/de TV
+</I>Dear Jose,
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+the new version of totem-plugin-arte was uploaded to cauldron, please test it.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 12/12/12 04:34 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 03:56:30 AM Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can I ask:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. Do you have /var on a separate partition?
+</I>&gt;<i> no, same patition. I have / swap and /home
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. If so, did my updated package allow you to mount it OK in the initrd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (you can pass rd.break=mount and then check the /sysroot/var dir to see
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if it's mounted - you will have to type &quot;exit&quot; once to actually do the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mount IIRC).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3. If the conversion is done with rd.break=prepivot, does the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /sysroot/var/run symlink exist (again you may need to do &quot;exit&quot; once to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> actually trigger the conversion).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If so, then something is later on *removing* the /var/run symlink again.
+</I>&gt;<i> I only know its not there and that is why the network doesn't start. Also about for other services
+</I>&gt;<i> need to timeout during boot because of the missing /var/run
+</I>
+Ahh so that's where the timeout problems occur. OK, that makes sense indeed.
+
+Just need to work out when /var/run symlink when missing.
+
+Sadly, I need to get systems where this keeps reoccuring, sadly by
+completing the upgrade fully it now means we can't debug the causes.
+
+Hopefully someone will be able to reproduce it on a snapshotted VM so we
+can reply various scenarios :)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> In my earlier tests it was mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> killed the symlinks. I made sure to disable it by rm'ing the symlink:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /lib/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.servic
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> e
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I fear it is somehow still running for you and killing of /var/run.
+</I>&gt;<i> Could be but I don't know what. I know need the system to do some packaging.
+</I>
+Yeah completely understandable. I'm sure we'll find a way to reproduce
+it in laboratory settings :)
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> after network runs, remove the /var/run (otherwise filesystem will not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> install)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No, /var/run should just be a symlink to /run then filesystem installs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fine - this is how it's meant to be, but something somewhere is going
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrong!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> then use urpmi --auto-update
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ( got the message &quot;/&quot; is mount read-only a few times and had to re-boot
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and go throught the /var/run cycle as desribed above)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Something has to be nuking the /var/run symlink on your system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Does &quot;systemctl status mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service&quot; indicate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it's been run? Does
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [/usr]/lib/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> service still exist somehow?
+</I>&gt;<i> not anymore. Teh problem went away after about 1,000packges have been upgraded or maybe before.
+</I>&gt;<i> I still have
+</I>&gt;<i> mandriva-boot-links
+</I>&gt;<i> mandriva-save-dmesg
+</I>
+
+Yeah, the mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service is no longer shipped in
+cauldron/mga3's initscripts package (with the move to /run it's no
+longer needed).
+
+I'm still confused as to what's causing the problem tho'.
+
+I don't suppose you happen to have a left over broken symlink to
+mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service somewhere in your
+/etc/systemd/system/ tree? If so what's the exact path? (you can safely
+remove it now if it exists).
+
+Col
+
+
+
+
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Remy CLOUARD at 11/12/12 19:27 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; If the symlinks disappear and are replaced again by folders, then also
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; make sure you disable mandriva-clean-var-run-lock.service as it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; helpfully nukes the symlinks (the update does this but perhaps it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; somehow been run/re-enabled?)
+</I>&gt;<i> Can&#8217;t answer for that, most of the time I never shutdown my laptop, only
+</I>&gt;<i> pm-suspend.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I should also mention that each try at installing filesystem resulted in
+</I>&gt;<i> a temporary symlink being created like: lock;50b68005. I assume these
+</I>&gt;<i> symlinks can safely be removed, just thought I would point that out.
+</I>
+Yeah those are just temporary names extracted from the package before
+being mv'ed into place (or rm'ed if a comparison shows they are
+identical to files/folders already present). They can be safely rm'ed now.
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+&gt;<i> I have updated versions of these packages (part of my /var/run updates)
+</I>&gt;<i> locally. Can I submit them? It updates both to the latest upstream, but
+</I>&gt;<i> I have no real way to test it properly.
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+&gt;<i> I have updated versions of these packages (part of my /var/run updates)
+</I>&gt;<i> locally. Can I submit them? It updates both to the latest upstream, but
+</I>&gt;<i> I have no real way to test it properly.
+</I>
+I noticed in 3.7 development that some SEGV signal handlers have been
+removed in IIRC gnome-session. You might want to backport it, I didn't
+really look into the details (why, etc).
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+&gt;<i> gw666 &lt;gw666&gt; 2.20.2-3.mga3:
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+&gt;<i> On 12 December 2012 12:32, gw666 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gw666 &lt;gw666&gt; 2.20.2-3.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 329876
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + rebuild (emptylog)
+</I>&gt;<i> What changed????
+</I>Nothing. It just built this time. I don't know why pterjan's automatic
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Thierry Vignaud
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 12 December 2012 12:32, gw666 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gw666 &lt;gw666&gt; 2.20.2-3.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 329876
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + rebuild (emptylog)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What changed????
+</I>&gt;<i> Nothing. It just built this time. I don't know why pterjan's automatic
+</I>&gt;<i> build failed before.
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+The autobuild failure was on 2.20.2-1.mga3 while you changed the release
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> can someone have a look at python-curl build fail in cauldron ?
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+Looks like a missing a -lcrypto in the link line, likely due to that
+being an implied dependency through libcurl. Without looking at the
+source, it might be as easy to fix as setting env LIBS=-lcrypto on the
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+&gt;<i> On 11 December 2012 17:52, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have updated versions of these packages (part of my /var/run updates)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> locally. Can I submit them? It updates both to the latest upstream, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have no real way to test it properly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You could &quot;kill -11&quot; some rendom gtk+ appp (eg: gedit) and see if you
+</I>&gt;<i> get a segfault dialog.
+</I>
+Didn't seem to do much here (nothing popped up).
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+check first...
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Dan Fandrich at 12/12/12 14:17 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;&gt;<i> can someone have a look at python-curl build fail in cauldron ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looks like a missing a -lcrypto in the link line, likely due to that
+</I>&gt;<i> being an implied dependency through libcurl. Without looking at the
+</I>&gt;<i> source, it might be as easy to fix as setting env LIBS=-lcrypto on the
+</I>&gt;<i> compile line.
+</I>
+Of course if that is the problem, then a proper patch to it's build
+system (autotools, cmake or whatever is used) and submitting the fix
+upstream is the &quot;correct&quot; course of action :)
+
+Sometimes this happens due to &quot;overlinking&quot; which is often used tho'
+many distros (like us) in recent years have been trying to be more
+strict about this stuff in our build systems.
+
+Col
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+<PRE>On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 04:31:54PM +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> Of course if that is the problem, then a proper patch to it's build
+</I>&gt;<i> system (autotools, cmake or whatever is used) and submitting the fix
+</I>&gt;<i> upstream is the &quot;correct&quot; course of action :)
+</I>
+True, but the latest upstream release is 4 years old, so I wouldn't hold
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 04:31:54PM +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Of course if that is the problem, then a proper patch to it's build
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> system (autotools, cmake or whatever is used) and submitting the fix
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> upstream is the &quot;correct&quot; course of action :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> True, but the latest upstream release is 4 years old, so I wouldn't hold
+</I>&gt;<i> out for that.
+</I>
+Good point, well made :p
+
+Col
+
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+ <B>Joseph Wang</B>
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+<PRE>Looking over this page:
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Python_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Python_policy</A>
+
+* python-pyp2rpm is undergoing review right now. Once it's in
+cauldron, I'd like to
+point to that package as something that packagers you should use to
+get a first draft
+of a spec file, I've been working with the Fedora people so that it
+will do both fedora
+and mageia naming conventions.
+
+* I'd like to add a rule (which is followed by current packages) that
+the prefix &quot;py&quot; should
+generally be removed from a package name. For example pyopencl should be called
+python-opencl. This is the current convention for packages in mageia.
+
+* Also for grouping. I'd like to add a rule that Development/Python
+is intended for packages
+which provide general development libraries for python, and if the
+library fits into an obvious
+other category (i.e. python routines for cosmology calculations) those
+should go into the
+other category.
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+ <B>Shlomi Fish</B>
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+
+On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:53:04 +0800
+Joseph Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">joequant at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Looking over this page:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Python_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Python_policy</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * python-pyp2rpm is undergoing review right now. Once it's in
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron, I'd like to
+</I>&gt;<i> point to that package as something that packagers you should use to
+</I>&gt;<i> get a first draft
+</I>&gt;<i> of a spec file, I've been working with the Fedora people so that it
+</I>&gt;<i> will do both fedora
+</I>&gt;<i> and mageia naming conventions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Sounds good. Does it support building for both Python 2.x and Python 3.x (in
+case both are supported)?
+
+&gt;<i> * I'd like to add a rule (which is followed by current packages) that
+</I>&gt;<i> the prefix &quot;py&quot; should
+</I>&gt;<i> generally be removed from a package name. For example pyopencl should be
+</I>&gt;<i> called python-opencl. This is the current convention for packages in mageia.
+</I>
+I'm OK with it either way.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * Also for grouping. I'd like to add a rule that Development/Python
+</I>&gt;<i> is intended for packages
+</I>&gt;<i> which provide general development libraries for python, and if the
+</I>&gt;<i> library fits into an obvious
+</I>&gt;<i> other category (i.e. python routines for cosmology calculations) those
+</I>&gt;<i> should go into the
+</I>&gt;<i> other category.
+</I>
+Sounds good.
+
+Regards,
+
+ Shlomi Fish
+
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+&lt;mst&gt; I find it&#8217;s usually safe to assume that whatever shlomif&#8217;s doing, there
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+<PRE>Le 13/12/2012 09:00, Shlomi Fish a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> * Also for grouping. I'd like to add a rule that Development/Python
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is intended for packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> which provide general development libraries for python, and if the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> library fits into an obvious
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other category (i.e. python routines for cosmology calculations) those
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should go into the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other category.
+</I>What is the interest ? The only usage of rpm group is in package
+installation GUI, mostly used by end-users. They don't care of
+development bricks, they are generally interested by ready-to-user
+software (applications) only.
+
+Don't throw useless effort in sorting python libraries about their
+purpose, their nature is enough.
+
+--
+BOFH excuse #253:
+
+We've run out of licenses
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+&gt;&gt;<i> fwang &lt;fwang&gt; 8.32-5.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 323949
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - add back pcretest
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> pcre requires lib64pcre1 = 8.32-5.mga3.
+</I>&gt;<i> So I should be able to remove old lib64pcre0:
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm -e --test lib64pcre0-8.21-2.mga3.x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i> error: Failed dependencies:
+</I>&gt;<i> libpcreposix.so.1()(64bit) is needed by (installed)
+</I>&gt;<i> pcre-8.32-5.mga3.x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> =&gt; lib64pcreposix1-8.32-5.mga3.x86_64.rpm should obsoletes lib64pcre0
+</I>&gt;<i> as files were moved
+</I>&gt;<i> (std procedure)
+</I>
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+Le 13/12/2012 09:00, Shlomi Fish a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi Joseph,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:53:04 +0800
+</I>&gt;<i> Joseph Wang&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">joequant at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>[...]
+&gt;&gt;<i> * I'd like to add a rule (which is followed by current packages) that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the prefix &quot;py&quot; should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> generally be removed from a package name. For example pyopencl should be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> called python-opencl. This is the current convention for packages in mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm OK with it either way.
+</I>I disagree on that point: software and libraries names are choose by the
+developers.
+Who are we to change them ?
+
+Adding &quot;python-&quot; at the beginning of the package name for our own
+organization is one thing, changing the name is another.
+
+And our policy only talk about upstream names containing the complete
+word &quot;python&quot;, not just &quot;py&quot;.
+
+Claire
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+&gt;<i> I disagree on that point: software and libraries names are choose by the
+</I>&gt;<i> developers.
+</I>&gt;<i> Who are we to change them ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Adding &quot;python-&quot; at the beginning of the package name for our own
+</I>&gt;<i> organization is one thing, changing the name is another.
+</I>
+I agree with Claire. I had the same reaction when reading the suggestion.
+It's a Bad idea.
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 13/12/2012 09:00, Shlomi Fish a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Joseph,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:53:04 +0800
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Joseph Wang&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">joequant at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * I'd like to add a rule (which is followed by current packages) that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the prefix &quot;py&quot; should
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> generally be removed from a package name. For example pyopencl
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> called python-opencl. This is the current convention for packages in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm OK with it either way.
+</I>&gt;<i> I disagree on that point: software and libraries names are choose by the
+</I>&gt;<i> developers.
+</I>&gt;<i> Who are we to change them ?
+</I>A free software distribution, whose part of the added value is overall
+consistency. Which is out of scope of individual software authors by
+definition.
+
+And the current issue is just about the *package* name, not exactly the
+software name. Remember when 'thunderbird' was distributed as
+'mozilla-thunderbird' ?
+
+And just to compare it with other similar practices:
+- we already normalize perl version numbers, for sorting purpose
+- we already force lowercase package naming
+- we already modify software setup, to achieve FHS compliance
+- we already modify package behaviour, to prevent automatic upgrade, for
+instance
+
+The two latest ones seems far most invasive IMHO than just shipping
+pycups in a package called 'python-cups' rather than 'python-pycups'.
+
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+<PRE>Le 13/12/2012 15:43, Guillaume Rousse a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 13/12/2012 15:24, Claire REVILLET a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 13/12/2012 09:00, Shlomi Fish a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Joseph,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:53:04 +0800
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Joseph Wang&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">joequant at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * I'd like to add a rule (which is followed by current packages) that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the prefix &quot;py&quot; should
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> generally be removed from a package name. For example pyopencl
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> called python-opencl. This is the current convention for packages in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm OK with it either way.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I disagree on that point: software and libraries names are choose by the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> developers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Who are we to change them ?
+</I>&gt;<i> A free software distribution, whose part of the added value is overall
+</I>&gt;<i> consistency. Which is out of scope of individual software authors by
+</I>&gt;<i> definition.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And the current issue is just about the *package* name, not exactly
+</I>&gt;<i> the software name. Remember when 'thunderbird' was distributed as
+</I>&gt;<i> 'mozilla-thunderbird' ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And just to compare it with other similar practices:
+</I>&gt;<i> - we already normalize perl version numbers, for sorting purpose
+</I>&gt;<i> - we already force lowercase package naming
+</I>&gt;<i> - we already modify software setup, to achieve FHS compliance
+</I>&gt;<i> - we already modify package behaviour, to prevent automatic upgrade,
+</I>&gt;<i> for instance
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The two latest ones seems far most invasive IMHO than just shipping
+</I>&gt;<i> pycups in a package called 'python-cups' rather than 'python-pycups'.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I understand your point, but i fear collisions between package names:
+(this is not a true example, i can't find one just now)
+Imagine it exists &quot;toto&quot; and &quot;pytoto&quot; in the Python Package Index. It
+can happen just because some people don't feel the need to add &quot;py&quot; in
+the module name as it's already written in python and it's in the Python
+package index... which seems sensible.
+Imagine &quot;pytoto&quot; is imported first with &quot;python-toto&quot; name for the package.
+How should i name the package for &quot;toto&quot; ?
+
+We can rename the first one into &quot;python-pytoto&quot; and import the second
+with &quot;python-toto&quot;, but we have to take care of the packages with BR or
+R on the first one. And it will brake the new policy rule.
+
+my 2 cents.
+Claire
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+<PRE>Claire REVILLET a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 13/12/2012 09:00, Shlomi Fish a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Joseph,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:53:04 +0800
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Joseph Wang&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">joequant at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * I'd like to add a rule (which is followed by current packages) that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the prefix &quot;py&quot; should
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> generally be removed from a package name. For example pyopencl
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> called python-opencl. This is the current convention for packages in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm OK with it either way.
+</I>&gt;<i> I disagree on that point: software and libraries names are choose by the
+</I>&gt;<i> developers.
+</I>&gt;<i> Who are we to change them ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Adding &quot;python-&quot; at the beginning of the package name for our own
+</I>&gt;<i> organization is one thing, changing the name is another.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And our policy only talk about upstream names containing the complete
+</I>&gt;<i> word &quot;python&quot;, not just &quot;py&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Claire
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>A package name is not a software name... and we have already some
+packages whose the name is not the same as in other distributions for
+reasons that belong to our and their organisation :
+look at JACK (Jack Audio Connection Kit) for instance
+
+- opensuse has a rpm simply called jack
+
+- Mandriva and Mageia need to name it jackit (because an other software,
+to rip cd, was already provided in a rpm called jack)
+
+- Debian and Ubuntu name their deb jackd or jackd1 (Debian too already
+used the name jack for the package installing the same cd ripper as
+Mandrake)
+
+- fedora and slackware call the rpm jack-audio-connection-kit (with
+lowercase...)
+
+Those distibutions have their coherency their needs : it's difficult to
+standardise the packages names for all the distributions because these
+names have an historical origin !
+
+You can complain ... but that is how it is...
+
+For a distribution the need is coherence for its own packagers
+
+
+
+My two drachmes
+
+
+Philippe
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+<PRE>On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:53:04 +0800
+Joseph Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">joequant at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Looking over this page:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Python_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Python_policy</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * python-pyp2rpm is undergoing review right now. Once it's in
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron, I'd like to
+</I>&gt;<i> point to that package as something that packagers you should use to
+</I>&gt;<i> get a first draft
+</I>&gt;<i> of a spec file, I've been working with the Fedora people so that it
+</I>&gt;<i> will do both fedora
+</I>&gt;<i> and mageia naming conventions.
+</I>
+Will this solve <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3348">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3348</A> ?
+(which dates back to <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=50484">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=50484</A> )
+
+Regards
+
+Antoine.
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+ <B>eatdirt</B>
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+I don't know if this is because I still have obsolete files, but if I do a
+
+service dm restart
+
+just after boot on the console of tty2, then the X server restarts but
+on tty3, dunno if this is wanted, but I would have expected it to
+restart on tty1.
+
+Cheers,
+Chris
+
+PS :I can explain why I do this, up to an unrestrained desire of testing
+the improbable!
+
+I really do not like the kdm login screen displaying the name of users,
+and I have a tuned
+
+/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/mageia-kde4/mageia-kde4-nolist.xml
+
+that I update by hand each time kdm is updated :-/
+
+PS^2: I suggested during my mandriva time that we have the option to
+choose this, if someone is also interested, I am happy to provide this file.
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+Cheers,
+Chris.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and eatdirt at 13/12/12 19:25 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi (Colin) :D
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know if this is because I still have obsolete files, but if I do a
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> service dm restart
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> just after boot on the console of tty2, then the X server restarts but
+</I>&gt;<i> on tty3, dunno if this is wanted, but I would have expected it to
+</I>&gt;<i> restart on tty1.
+</I>
+It should, but basically it's up the DMs in question. In gdm I think it
+tries tty1 first.
+
+For mga4 I'll likely try and push through a rejig of how the DM stuff
+operates which might help this situation a bit. KDM could also likely be
+patched too. I should likely do more tests in this area tho'.
+
+Col
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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+
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+&gt;<i> Looking over this page:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Python_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Python_policy</A>
+</I> &gt;
+&gt;<i> * I'd like to add a rule (which is followed by current packages) that
+</I>&gt;<i> the prefix &quot;py&quot; should
+</I>&gt;<i> generally be removed from a package name. For example pyopencl should be called
+</I>&gt;<i> python-opencl. This is the current convention for packages in mageia.
+</I>
+I think it's too strong. There will necessarily be exceptions, like pypes.
+
+For the package names, I can give you my experience as ocaml packager.
+Our policy is roughly the same as for python:
+- executables keep their upstream names (ex. js_of_ocaml, camlp5, ...)
+- libraries take the 'ocaml-' prefix followed by the upstream name as
+much as possible (since these upstream names are known). It leads to
+packages like ocaml-ocamlgraph or ocaml-ocamlnet since ocamlgraph and
+ocamlnet are well-known libs in the community. However when the library
+is just a wrapper for a well-known C library, we drop extra ocaml
+prefixes or suffixes (ex: upstream sqlite3-ocaml becomes ocaml-sqlite3).
+
+So overall, no policy should be too strict: the need for uniformity
+should not make it too hard for users!
+
+&gt;<i> * Also for grouping. I'd like to add a rule that Development/Python
+</I>&gt;<i> is intended for packages
+</I>&gt;<i> which provide general development libraries for python, and if the
+</I>&gt;<i> library fits into an obvious
+</I>&gt;<i> other category (i.e. python routines for cosmology calculations) those
+</I>&gt;<i> should go into the
+</I>&gt;<i> other category.
+</I>
+I don't really agree. The current group policy is the following:
+- if it's an application/data -&gt; in the corresponding group.
+- if it's a library for development -&gt; in Development/%{the language}.
+- if it's a library not meant for anyone to install independently
+ -&gt; in System/Libraries.
+I'm not sure users would find a benefit to have python for cosmology in
+the Astronomy section and python for Maths in the Maths section and so on.
+
+What I would encourage you to do however is to create a cosmology wiki
+page that describes all the cosmology-features of Mageia.
+Best,
+--
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+In our enviroment we are shipping our own local CA certificate on the machines. In order to learn how to do that properly, I looked at the rootcerts package.
+In doing that I noticed that the rootcerts package is architecture dependant, as in it builds i586 and x86_64 packages, and not noarch. Yet there is no compiling involved and no binary files shipped, that I can detect, that would warrant an architecture dependant packaging.
+
+So why isn't this a noarch package?
+After all, it's just a set of certificate files.
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+Due to this should not lastfm-player either be dropped or moved to
+nonfree now before Mga3 goes final?
+
+
+ Charles
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+ The one time in the day that you lean back and relax is
+ the one time the boss walks through the office.
+----------------------
+Mageia release 3 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
+On SuperSize....<A HREF="http://www.eslrahc.com">http://www.eslrahc.com</A>
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+ <B>Liam R E Quin</B>
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+<PRE>On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 18:26 -0500, Charles A Edwards wrote:
+&gt;<i> Beginning Tuesday 15 January 2013 radio streaming within the desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> client will only be available to Last.fm subscribers (monthly fee).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Due to this should not lastfm-player either be dropped or moved to
+</I>&gt;<i> nonfree now before Mga3 goes final?
+</I>
+The player can be free (libre, open source) even if the service is not.
+
+Of course, it may well be less useful...
+
+Liam
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+ <B>Richard Couture</B>
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+<PRE>While teaching a class in administration of GNU Linux using Mageia I
+noted that when setting ENABLE_PAM_WHEEL_FOR_SU in msec that neither the
+group nor the permissions of the exec su were changed.
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rrc at pwyr</A> ~]$ ls -al $( which su )
+-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 34904 Jun 9 2012 /bin/su*
+
+to my way of thinking, this option should change su as follows
+-rwsr-xr-- 1 root wheel 34904 Dec 12 2012 /bin/su*
+
+
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+was using SysV notation to close the logs in order to rotate them
+service httpd closelog
+which works fine, but the equivilent command in systemd
+systemctl closelog httpd.service
+does NOT work
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+<PRE>While teaching a class in admin of GNU &amp; Linux I noted that
+systemctl reload smbd.service does NOT reread the /etc/group file.
+
+When adding a new user to a group which in smb.conf grants them access
+to a share, it was necessary to restart the service in order to grant
+the new group members access.
+
+It seems odd that samba is caching /etc/group and if so, odder that it
+can't reread it during a reload...
+
+
+
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+Segmentation fault
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olivier at localhost</A> ~]$ rpm -q blender
+blender-2.65-2.mga3
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+Certains paquets ont &#233;t&#233; install&#233;s mais d'autres ont &#233;chou&#233;.
+Le paquetage demand&#233; ne peut pas &#234;tre install&#233; :
+perl-B-C-1.420.0-2.mga2.i586 (car perlapi-5.14.2 est non satisfait)
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+<PRE>On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Charles A Edwards &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">CAE at eslrahc.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Beginning Tuesday 15 January 2013 radio streaming within the desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> client will only be available to Last.fm subscribers (monthly fee).
+</I>&gt;<i> Due to this should not lastfm-player either be dropped or moved to
+</I>&gt;<i> nonfree now before Mga3 goes final?
+</I>It could be dropped or stay for those who want to pay the 3&#8364; a month.
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+&gt;<i> Name : transmission Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version : 2.74 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>
+FYI,
+noticed 2.75 is out on the website, says it fixes a crasher on
+non-English locales. Didn't submit as tarball is not yet available.
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+On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 07:41:23 +0100
+Sandro CAZZANIGA &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+</I>&gt;<i> Certains paquets ont &#233;t&#233; install&#233;s mais d'autres ont &#233;chou&#233;.
+</I>&gt;<i> Le paquetage demand&#233; ne peut pas &#234;tre install&#233; :
+</I>&gt;<i> perl-B-C-1.420.0-2.mga2.i586 (car perlapi-5.14.2 est non satisfait)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+B::C does not build with perl-5.16.x which is what we have in Cauldron, and its
+maintainers used to claim perl-5.16.x introduced some serious bugs that were
+not present in perl-5.14.x (whereas the other Perl 5 porters disagree). So at
+the moment, it is uninstallable.
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+P.S: next time please use &#171;export LC_ALL=C&#187; for the commands to display the
+errors and warnings in English.
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+Regards,
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Richard Couture at 14/12/12 01:24 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> While teaching a class in admin of GNU &amp; Linux I noted that
+</I>&gt;<i> systemctl reload smbd.service does NOT reread the /etc/group file.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When adding a new user to a group which in smb.conf grants them access
+</I>&gt;<i> to a share, it was necessary to restart the service in order to grant
+</I>&gt;<i> the new group members access.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems odd that samba is caching /etc/group and if so, odder that it
+</I>&gt;<i> can't reread it during a reload...
+</I>
+It would be very strange if samba were reading /etc/group directly
+anyway I think. Shouldn't it delicate to the nsswitch/getent() system?
+
+Does kill -HUP make the problem go away? If so then there is a problem
+in the systemd unit file or initscript (depending what smb has). Also if
+the initscript does something different on reload than the native
+systemd unit then, again, that is a bug.
+
+Failing that, perhaps (assuming it's running) samba is using nscd (name
+service cashing daemon) in which case you may need to do a &quot;nscd -i
+group&quot; to invalidate the group cache.
+
+Col
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Richard Couture at 14/12/12 01:14 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> While teaching a class in admin of GNU &amp; Linux I noted that logrotate
+</I>&gt;<i> was using SysV notation to close the logs in order to rotate them
+</I>&gt;<i> service httpd closelog
+</I>&gt;<i> which works fine, but the equivilent command in systemd
+</I>&gt;<i> systemctl closelog httpd.service
+</I>&gt;<i> does NOT work
+</I>
+This is not expected to work.
+
+sysvinit scripts allowed arbirary commands to be registered but systemd
+does not accept any random commands.
+
+&quot;killall -HUP httpd&quot; should do the same thing.
+
+Of course in my opinion the best solution is to hook up apache instead
+into the journal. I'd love to have a more structured logging for my web
+sites - having had to dig into logs recently for some analysis, the
+indexed and searchable logs available via journald would be far, far
+nicer :)
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Richard Couture at 14/12/12 01:10 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> While teaching a class in administration of GNU Linux using Mageia I
+</I>&gt;<i> noted that when setting ENABLE_PAM_WHEEL_FOR_SU in msec that neither the
+</I>&gt;<i> group nor the permissions of the exec su were changed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rrc at pwyr</A> ~]$ ls -al $( which su )
+</I>&gt;<i> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 34904 Jun 9 2012 /bin/su*
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> to my way of thinking, this option should change su as follows
+</I>&gt;<i> -rwsr-xr-- 1 root wheel 34904 Dec 12 2012 /bin/su*
+</I>
+So this would prevent user A su'ing to user B. I'm not sure that's
+desired behaviour.
+
+e.g. I quite often do &quot;su - test&quot; to become my test user.
+
+The setting AFAIU only prevents users su'ing to root when not in the
+wheel group, not su'ing to other users.
+
+Col
+
+
+--
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
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+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>14.12.2012 09:57, G&#246;tz Waschk kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Charles A Edwards &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">CAE at eslrahc.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Beginning Tuesday 15 January 2013 radio streaming within the desktop
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> client will only be available to Last.fm subscribers (monthly fee).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Due to this should not lastfm-player either be dropped or moved to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> nonfree now before Mga3 goes final?
+</I>&gt;<i> It could be dropped or stay for those who want to pay the 3&#8364; a month.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I don't see any reason to drop it. Only if maintainer doesn't want to
+maintain it anymore and there is no other maintainer to take it. But so
+long i was using it with paid subscription - can't do it next year, but
+i still think it shouldn't be dropped.
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+&gt;<i> While teaching a class in administration of GNU Linux using Mageia I
+</I>&gt;<i> noted that when setting ENABLE_PAM_WHEEL_FOR_SU in msec that neither the
+</I>&gt;<i> group nor the permissions of the exec su were changed.
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+If I'm not mistaken, the changes are happening in /etc/pam.d/su
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+
+Finally, NVIDIA CUDA Toolkit 5.0.35 has landed in Cauldron. I apologize
+for the delay, and ask everyone interested to test the packages
+(especially on x86_64).
+
+New in packaging:
+=================
+
+* From now on, we are using SLES official packages, because others
+(Ubuntu, Fedora) contain cuda-gdb binary that is linked against
+libtinfo.so.5 that we do not ship;
+* those lame /usr/{nvvm,open64,libnvvp,libnsight} are moved to the
+appropriate place, namely %_libdir;
+* samples (ex-CUDA SDK) have been included.
+
+New in CUDA 5.0:
+================
+
+* NVIDIA Nsight, a full-featured CUDA IDE, based on Eclipse CDT;
+* dynamic parallelism - simply speaking, ability to spawn new kernels
+from kernels;
+* more here:
+<A HREF="http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-toolkit-release-notes/index.html">http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-toolkit-release-notes/index.html</A>
+
+Known issues:
+=============
+
+* GCC 4.7 is not supported. However, you can fool nvcc and compile a
+program with -D__GNUC_MINOR__=6;
+* In Eclipse based products, you may notice that toolbar buttons don't
+respond to mouse hover (look flat all the time). This is a well-known
+issue and will be fixed in the upcoming release of
+gnome-themes-standard;
+* Eclipse-based products are unable to open web browser due to crash in
+libxul.so (should we update xulrunner?)
+
+The work on the package is still not finished. The package contains an
+init script (nvidia) that creates device nodes and loads kernel module.
+This &quot;service&quot; is intended to be started on GUI-less compute nodes. I
+want to ask for assistance in migrating this script to systemd unit. As
+far as I know, with latest kernels and NVIDIA drivers the device nodes
+always get created automatically (never noticed them not being
+created). So probably the only thing left is to load kernel module.
+Seems like putting it into modules-load.d/* is a bad idea, because if
+the module is absent, systemd-modules-load.service will fail. Should we
+simply make a unit with ExecStart=/usr/sbin/modprobe nvidia-current instead?
+
+Also I'd like to thank Pascal Terjan who helped me to upload a part of
+source. Uploading another 700 MBytes took me 2 hours - that was painful.
+I remember there was a proposal to provide packagers with their
+dedicated VMs with shell accounts on a build cluster - what's the status
+of that?
+
+Regards,
+Dimitri
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 10:54 PM, zezinho&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lists.jjorge at free.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> qlandkartegt build fails because urpmi auto-selects a different libpq and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libpq-devel (eg. libpq5.1 and libpq5.2-devel) for the auto requires
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libpq.so.5.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any hint on how to deal with that? Should I require manually a versioned
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libpq AND libpq-devel?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think libpq5.2-devel should require libpq5.2
+</I>
+Maybe the problem is not there : in
+/etc/urpmi/prefer.vendor.list
+
+libpq9.1_5 is preferred over libpq9.2_5
+
+Shouldn't we prefer now the newest libpq?
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+<PRE>On 12/14/2012 10:08 PM, Dimitri wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Finally, NVIDIA CUDA Toolkit 5.0.35 has landed in Cauldron. I apologize
+</I>&gt;<i> for the delay, and ask everyone interested to test the packages
+</I>&gt;<i> (especially on x86_64).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Many thanks !!!
+
+&gt;<i> * GCC 4.7 is not supported. However, you can fool nvcc and compile a
+</I>&gt;<i> program with -D__GNUC_MINOR__=6;
+</I>
+I used to disable the check in CUDA itself, it is a simple patch, goes
+attached. So you dont have to tweak every compile line in yor project.
+BTW, CUDA works fine for me with gcc 4.7. The only problem I know is
+that cuda-gdb wont work with 4.7 because different formats in binaries
+(COFF/ELF related ???).
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The work on the package is still not finished. The package contains an
+</I>&gt;<i> init script (nvidia) that creates device nodes and loads kernel module.
+</I>&gt;<i> This &quot;service&quot; is intended to be started on GUI-less compute nodes. I
+</I>&gt;<i> want to ask for assistance in migrating this script to systemd unit. As
+</I>&gt;<i> far as I know, with latest kernels and NVIDIA drivers the device nodes
+</I>&gt;<i> always get created automatically (never noticed them not being
+</I>&gt;<i> created). So probably the only thing left is to load kernel module.
+</I>&gt;<i> Seems like putting it into modules-load.d/* is a bad idea, because if
+</I>&gt;<i> the module is absent, systemd-modules-load.service will fail. Should we
+</I>&gt;<i> simply make a unit with ExecStart=/usr/sbin/modprobe nvidia-current instead?
+</I>
+I also used the script to workaround a problem with running CUDA on
+a system without X. If there is no X running on the nVidia card, CUDA
+programs take a looooot to launch. So the solution is to launch
+something like nvidia-smi at boot and let it running.
+
+Now you seem to be looking into packaging, I will tell about a problem
+I have. It can be at the same time very specific, but also very common.
+I have a box with Intel graphics, they work fine for 2D and desktop,
+and an nvidia card (a cheap but powerfull GT640), to crunch numbers.
+This can be a very common setup where someone has a box with
+intel graphics and an accelerator Tesla card. They want nVidia CUDA
+but not nVidia GL.
+
+So, I want the GL from Mesa for intel graphics, but libcuda from
+nVidia libraries. Problem: if /usr/lib64/nvidia-current is in the
+path (via alteratives), libGL also picks the nvidia one, not Mesa's.
+And that breaks desktop. I have to rm the nvidia GL libs.
+Also, cuda libraries are independent of GL ones, and should not go
+into nvidia-current, they could go just fine in /usr/lib[64].
+They should not even suggests x11-driver-nvidia, cause for example
+a server with a Tesla card needs the kernel module but not the x11
+driver.
+Then there is the problem of some utilities you need on a headless
+CUDA server that are now packaged into the x11-driver (nvidia-smi).
+In short, I would like a CUDA environment without the CUDA
+x11 driver and GL libraries. It can work fine.
+And as a side effect, now that drivers for 8xxx and 9xxx cards
+are different from the next generations, and both support CUDA,
+there should not be any cuda part in the driver package...
+
+So I would propose these, blame me if this is too complicated. All this
+can be done and checked in separate steps or package releases:
+
+- move libs in nvidia-current-cuda-opencl from /usr/lib[64]/nvidia-current
+ to /usr/lib[64]. None links against libGL, and work on an
+ environment with Mesa's libGL, and with alternatives for gl_conf
+ set to standard. They do not comflict with anybodyelse nor
+ any other package provides an alternative. And they can even
+ be used without an nVidia card with pthreads emulation.
+ (perhaps in the future if AMD or Intel give its own libOpenCL,but then
+ probaly OpenCL libraries would need to be split apart).
+- move libcuda.so symlink (and all from nvidia-current-devel related
+ to cuda libraries) to nvidia-cuda-toolkit-devel, also in /usr/lib).
+ So you don't need GL devel package and bunch of requires to build
+ CUDA apps...
+- move nvidia-smi/nvidia-xconfig to its own package (nvidia-cli-utils?),
+ they do not require GL not even X.
+- perhaps rename nvidia-cuda-tollkit-***** to nvidia-cuda-***** ;)
+ (I really think the -toolkit part is redundant...)
+
+So the target will be to be able to have a CUDA compute environment
+without the X or GL part of nvidia.
+
+Sorry for the long and boring mail, but I had this in mind since looong
+ago.
+
+TIA
+
+--
+J.A. Magallon &lt;jamagallon()ono!com&gt; \ Winter is coming...
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+I am running into trouble with the ethernet adaptater within
+3.7.0-desktop-1.mga3. My eth0 connection goes up and down all the time;
+the logs are full of
+
+[167751.720286] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+[167763.726287] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+[167811.720288] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+[167823.720282] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+[167835.717284] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+[167853.719293] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+[167907.720290] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+[167949.720291] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+[167961.724301] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+
+Any idea? Was working fine a week ago on cauldron!
+
+Cheers,
+Chris.
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> I am running into trouble with the ethernet adaptater within
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.7.0-desktop-1.mga3. My eth0 connection goes up and down all the time; the
+</I>&gt;<i> logs are full of
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [167751.720286] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+</I>&gt;<i> [167763.726287] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+</I>&gt;<i> [167811.720288] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+</I>&gt;<i> [167823.720282] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+</I>&gt;<i> [167835.717284] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+</I>&gt;<i> [167853.719293] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+</I>&gt;<i> [167907.720290] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+</I>&gt;<i> [167949.720291] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+</I>&gt;<i> [167961.724301] r8169 0000:02:00.0 eth0: link up
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any idea? Was working fine a week ago on cauldron!
+</I>
+Did you actually check your cable?
+Did you try booting back to 3.6?
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+please remove lilypond and lilypond-doc from mga2/updates_testing
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+Mageia3-Alpha2, and as it mentions 'improved Find in Messages' I gave
+it a try. Result:
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+ A request to find 'gmail.com' in the From field of Inbox found 10
+messages.
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+KDE 4.5.2 found 142 messages...)
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+Is there sonething I should have done to allow the other 132 messages
+to be found?
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+<PRE>Le samedi 15 d&#233;cembre 2012 19:54:51 Maurice Batey a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> This version of KMail has turned up in the latest s/w update on
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia3-Alpha2, and as it mentions 'improved Find in Messages' I gave
+</I>&gt;<i> it a try. Result:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A request to find 'gmail.com' in the From field of Inbox found 10
+</I>&gt;<i> messages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (The same request on the same email message base with KMail 1.13.5 under
+</I>&gt;<i> KDE 4.5.2 found 142 messages...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there sonething I should have done to allow the other 132 messages
+</I>&gt;<i> to be found?
+</I>Probably some nepomuk related stuff i would say, which means that the mailbox
+should have been indexed by nepomuk.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 12/12/12 10:38 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 11 December 2012 17:52, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have updated versions of these packages (part of my /var/run updates)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> locally. Can I submit them? It updates both to the latest upstream, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have no real way to test it properly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You could &quot;kill -11&quot; some rendom gtk+ appp (eg: gedit) and see if you
+</I>&gt;<i> get a segfault dialog.
+</I>
+OK, so I downgraded to the current version and tried this and didn't get
+any dialogs...
+
+So for want of any better testing, I've just pushed my updated versions
+for now.
+
+Fingers crossed it didn't make things worse :)
+
+Col
+
+
+--
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 11/12/12 16:26 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The &quot;/usr move&quot; included the move of /var/run to /run, however this has
+</I>&gt;<i> not been done into packages, like quagga:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> %dir %attr(0750,root,root) /var/run/quagga
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shouldn' this be changed ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW: I recently updated a fresh mga2 to mga-cualdron and separated /var
+</I>&gt;<i> is still not handle automatically when moving /usr.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Actually looking at my list of packages with /var/run problems I notice
+you updated quagga.
+
+The change
+(<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/quagga/current/SPECS/quagga.spec?r1=261982&amp;r2=329766">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/quagga/current/SPECS/quagga.spec?r1=261982&amp;r2=329766</A>)
+was basically a noop as /var/run is just a symlink to /run anyway.
+
+I've now updated the package to properly use tmpfiles as mentioned in my
+original reply to this message.
+
+Can you double check it's OK?
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+<PRE>On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> When building php locally i get this message during configure and then it dumps a memory map
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/ld: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x00000000019f8f70 ***
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is this a glibc problem or a local problem on my cauldron bax?
+</I>
+Either a bug in ld (if you can reproduce) or maybe a memory problem on
+your machine if it happened only once
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+<PRE>On Saturday, December 15, 2012 04:05:27 PM Pascal Terjan wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; When building php locally i get this message during configure and then it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dumps a memory map
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/ld: double free or corruption (!prev):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 0x00000000019f8f70 ***
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is this a glibc problem or a local problem on my cauldron bax?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Either a bug in ld (if you can reproduce) or maybe a memory problem on
+</I>&gt;<i> your machine if it happened only once
+</I>It happens regularly but I would appreciate if someone else could confirm it.
+--
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+ <B>eatdirt</B>
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+On 15/12/12 16:40, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+ &gt; Did you actually check your cable?
+ &gt; Did you try booting back to 3.6?
+ &gt;
+
+Yes, cable/router are fine and it works normally with 3.6.5
+
+I also got a kernel trace under 3.7.0 by stressing the eth0 with
+torrents. I can open a bug report if this is not only me:
+
+
+[22184.720131] Pid: 0, comm: swapper/0 Not tainted
+3.7.0-desktop-1.mga3 #1
+[22184.720133] Call Trace:
+[22184.720136] &lt;IRQ&gt; [&lt;ffffffff81055eef&gt;]
+warn_slowpath_common+0x7f/0xc0
+[22184.720147] [&lt;ffffffff81055fe6&gt;] warn_slowpath_fmt+0x46/0x50
+[22184.720152] [&lt;ffffffff813e8070&gt;] dev_watchdog+0x240/0x250
+[22184.720156] [&lt;ffffffff813e7e30&gt;] ?
+dev_deactivate_queue.constprop.30+0x80/0x80
+[22184.720161] [&lt;ffffffff8106571a&gt;] call_timer_fn+0x3a/0x120
+[22184.720166] [&lt;ffffffff8108a8e9&gt;] ? scheduler_tick+0x109/0x140
+[22184.720169] [&lt;ffffffff813e7e30&gt;] ?
+dev_deactivate_queue.constprop.30+0x80/0x80
+[22184.720173] [&lt;ffffffff8106737e&gt;] run_timer_softirq+0x1fe/0x2b0
+[22184.720177] [&lt;ffffffff810a5f22&gt;] ? ktime_get+0x52/0xe0
+[22184.720181] [&lt;ffffffff8105e6c8&gt;] __do_softirq+0xc8/0x200
+[22184.720186] [&lt;ffffffff810ad594&gt;] ? tick_program_event+0x24/0x30
+[22184.720191] [&lt;ffffffff8149e41c&gt;] call_softirq+0x1c/0x30
+[22184.720196] [&lt;ffffffff81016765&gt;] do_softirq+0x75/0xb0
+[22184.720199] [&lt;ffffffff8105e975&gt;] irq_exit+0xa5/0xb0
+[22184.720205] [&lt;ffffffff81038a6e&gt;]
+smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x6e/0xa0
+[22184.720208] [&lt;ffffffff8149dcdd&gt;] apic_timer_interrupt+0x6d/0x80
+[22184.720210] &lt;EOI&gt; [&lt;ffffffff8107ea38&gt;] ? hrtimer_start+0x18/0x20
+[22184.720218] [&lt;ffffffff8101cd51&gt;] ? mwait_idle+0x91/0x1e0
+[22184.720222] [&lt;ffffffff8101d7ae&gt;] cpu_idle+0xfe/0x120
+[22184.720227] [&lt;ffffffff8146dee2&gt;] rest_init+0x72/0x80
+[22184.720232] [&lt;ffffffff81ac6c18&gt;] start_kernel+0x3a5/0x3b2
+[22184.720236] [&lt;ffffffff81ac6672&gt;] ? repair_env_string+0x5e/0x5e
+[22184.720240] [&lt;ffffffff81ac6356&gt;]
+x86_64_start_reservations+0x131/0x135
+[22184.720244] [&lt;ffffffff81ac645a&gt;] x86_64_start_kernel+0x100/0x10f
+[22184.720247] ---[ end trace 11b4cb5ae1abd116 ]---
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+<PRE>Dimitri wrote:
+&gt;<i> Known issues:
+</I>&gt;<i> =============
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * Eclipse-based products are unable to open web browser due to crash in
+</I>&gt;<i> libxul.so (should we update xulrunner?)
+</I>
+Not sure if you mean the Mageia Eclipse package or using Eclipse directly from upstream.
+
+In our package, it is no longer linked to xulrunner (so the SWT Browser widget doesn't work), mainly because it wouldn't build anymore. Our
+maintainer (D Morgan) said Fedora did the same thing.
+
+If the upstream distribution is still sucessfully linked to it, the crash isn't surprising, as everything that links to xulrunner in Mageia
+crashes currently AFAIK. Not sure if it'll ever be fixed, but for now xulrunner is not supported in Mageia. See:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6610">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6610</A>
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+recently, I had to create a .src.rpm for Fedora, and ran into some Mageia RPM
+SPEC paradigms that I was not familiar with, and had to ask on IRC or search
+the web. So I decided to make life easier and create something like to ease
+translating between the distributions: <A HREF="http://hyperpolyglot.org/scripting">http://hyperpolyglot.org/scripting</A> .
+So see:
+
+* <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia-Mandriva-Fedora-SUSE_RPM_Spec_Lingo">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia-Mandriva-Fedora-SUSE_RPM_Spec_Lingo</A>
+
+It's currently very much work in progress, and the formatting could use some
+work, but it's a start. Feel free to contribute - Be Bold and edit.
+
+Regards,
+
+ Shlomi Fish
+
+--
+-----------------------------------------------------------------
+Shlomi Fish <A HREF="http://www.shlomifish.org/">http://www.shlomifish.org/</A>
+&quot;Star Trek: We, the Living Dead&quot; - <A HREF="http://shlom.in/st-wtld">http://shlom.in/st-wtld</A>
+
+&lt;rindolf&gt; buu: do you have a functional spec? An architecture document? An
+interface whitepaper? A developer&#8217;s guide? A user manual? A &#8220;The BL Book&#8221; and
+&#8220;BL &#8212; The Program&#8221;?
+&lt;buu&gt; rindolf: no, no, no no and no
+
+Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - <A HREF="http://shlom.in/reply">http://shlom.in/reply</A> .
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 15/12/12 22:05 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 12/12/12 10:38 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 11 December 2012 17:52, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have updated versions of these packages (part of my /var/run updates)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> locally. Can I submit them? It updates both to the latest upstream, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have no real way to test it properly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You could &quot;kill -11&quot; some rendom gtk+ appp (eg: gedit) and see if you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> get a segfault dialog.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, so I downgraded to the current version and tried this and didn't get
+</I>&gt;<i> any dialogs...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So for want of any better testing, I've just pushed my updated versions
+</I>&gt;<i> for now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Fingers crossed it didn't make things worse :)
+</I>
+OK, so this is happending:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at jimmy</A> ~]# urpmi &quot;pkgconfig(libreport-web)&quot;
+A requested package cannot be installed:
+lib64report-web-devel-2.0.19-1.mga3.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied
+devel(libxmlrpc_client(64bit)))
+Continue installation anyway? (Y/n)
+
+
+It turns out that &quot;devel(libxmlrpc_client(64bit)))&quot; is not provided by
+lib64xmlrpc-c-devel. Looking closer this is because when building that
+package, objdump does not recognise the file file format and thus
+doesn't add provides. Looking closer it appears the files are txt not
+symlinks:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> xmlrpc-c]$ cat /usr/lib64/libxmlrpc_server.so
+/* GNU ld script */
+INPUT(/usr/lib64/libxmlrpc_server.so.3
+AS_NEEDED(/usr/lib64/libxmlrpc.so.3 /usr/lib64/libxmlrpc_util.so.3))
+
+
+So the question is, should they just be fixed to be symlinks or should
+we teach the rpm script the ability to extract info from these these GNU
+ld scripts?
+
+Col
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+ <B>Mika Laitio</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> This package, when installed will add a new menu option to your
+</I>&gt;<i> bootloader. Simply install this package, reboot, select the &quot;Mageia 3
+</I>&gt;<i> Upgrade Preparation&quot; entry boot, wait while your FS is converted and
+</I>&gt;<i> then perform a urpmi upgrade as you would normally.
+</I>
+Hi, tested this on yesterday with the up to date mga 2 by installing
+upgrade prepare rpm and rebooting and selecting the &quot;upgrade to mga3
+option&quot; from grup and then adding the cauldron repositories.
+
+Then I started the install with
+&quot;urpmi.update -a&quot;
+&quot;urpmi --download-all --auto-select&quot;
+
+Install started fine and offered that I have about 2200 rpm's to update.
+During the install some package seemed to hang (I don't remember anymore
+which one) and I canceled install with ctrl-c and saw message about
+error in postinst section.
+
+I run urpmi.update again and then &quot;urpmi auto-select&quot; and somehow
+ended up to situation where all my network interfaces are down
+and about 900 rpm's fail to install as some of their dependencies are
+missing.
+
+I tried to download and copy the missing rpm's with another computer to
+usb stick, but usb fails to mount... (I can not see /dev/sdb, etc...
+only /dev/sda which is my harddisk)
+
+Questions:
+
+1) If I copy them missing rpm's to device by using the rescuq disc, do I
+need to select again the &quot;upgrade to mga3 option when booting to
+mandriva&quot; or is it one time operation that has been done in first boot.
+
+2) Is there some trick for getting network up? Now ifconfig command
+shows only the &quot;lo&quot; interface.
+
+Mika
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+<PRE>On 16 December 2012 12:38, Mika Laitio &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lamikr at pilppa.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Install started fine and offered that I have about 2200 rpm's to update.
+</I>&gt;<i> During the install some package seemed to hang (I don't remember anymore
+</I>&gt;<i> which one) and I canceled install with ctrl-c and saw message about
+</I>&gt;<i> error in postinst section.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I run urpmi.update again and then &quot;urpmi auto-select&quot; and somehow
+</I>&gt;<i> ended up to situation where all my network interfaces are down
+</I>
+maybe b/c kernel-firmware was upgraded first and your network card needs
+a firmware that is not compatible between different kernels
+
+&gt;<i> and about 900 rpm's fail to install as some of their dependencies are
+</I>&gt;<i> missing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I tried to download and copy the missing rpm's with another computer to
+</I>&gt;<i> usb stick, but usb fails to mount... (I can not see /dev/sdb, etc...
+</I>&gt;<i> only /dev/sda which is my harddisk)
+</I>
+Strange... Probably related to your network issue.
+You could run &quot;modprobe usb_storage&quot; (you may also have to load the USB
+controller modules (see output of &quot;lspcidrake -v&quot;))
+Didn't you reboot to a new kernel which you aborted the installation?
+What if you boot to an older kernel (eg mga2 one)?
+
+&gt;<i> Questions:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) If I copy them missing rpm's to device by using the rescuq disc, do I
+</I>&gt;<i> need to select again the &quot;upgrade to mga3 option when booting to
+</I>&gt;<i> mandriva&quot; or is it one time operation that has been done in first boot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) Is there some trick for getting network up? Now ifconfig command
+</I>&gt;<i> shows only the &quot;lo&quot; interface.
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+<PRE>Op zondag 16 december 2012 11:11:48 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 15/12/12 22:05 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 12/12/12 10:38 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On 11 December 2012 17:52, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I have updated versions of these packages (part of my /var/run updates)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; locally. Can I submit them? It updates both to the latest upstream, but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I have no real way to test it properly.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; You could &quot;kill -11&quot; some rendom gtk+ appp (eg: gedit) and see if you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; get a segfault dialog.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; OK, so I downgraded to the current version and tried this and didn't get
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; any dialogs...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So for want of any better testing, I've just pushed my updated versions
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for now.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Fingers crossed it didn't make things worse :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, so this is happending:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at jimmy</A> ~]# urpmi &quot;pkgconfig(libreport-web)&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> A requested package cannot be installed:
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64report-web-devel-2.0.19-1.mga3.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied
+</I>&gt;<i> devel(libxmlrpc_client(64bit)))
+</I>&gt;<i> Continue installation anyway? (Y/n)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It turns out that &quot;devel(libxmlrpc_client(64bit)))&quot; is not provided by
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64xmlrpc-c-devel. Looking closer this is because when building that
+</I>&gt;<i> package, objdump does not recognise the file file format and thus
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't add provides. Looking closer it appears the files are txt not
+</I>&gt;<i> symlinks:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> xmlrpc-c]$ cat /usr/lib64/libxmlrpc_server.so
+</I>&gt;<i> /* GNU ld script */
+</I>&gt;<i> INPUT(/usr/lib64/libxmlrpc_server.so.3
+</I>&gt;<i> AS_NEEDED(/usr/lib64/libxmlrpc.so.3 /usr/lib64/libxmlrpc_util.so.3))
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So the question is, should they just be fixed to be symlinks or should
+</I>&gt;<i> we teach the rpm script the ability to extract info from these these GNU
+</I>&gt;<i> ld scripts?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+imho, this should be fixed... what if we use a different linker?
+will -lxmlrpc_server still work then?
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+<PRE>On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:30:10 -0300, Balcaen John wrote:
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+&gt;<i> the mailbox should have been indexed by nepomuk.
+</I>
+ How does one achieve that, please?
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+ <B>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil</B>
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:30:10 -0300, Balcaen John wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the mailbox should have been indexed by nepomuk.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How does one achieve that, please?
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+is nepomuk enabled ?
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+ <B>Angelo Naselli</B>
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+<PRE>Il 22/11/2012 22:13, Balcaen John ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> Regarding digikam , the conflict with
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/applications/kde4/kipiplugins.desktop has been fixed upstream &amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> fwang did push it today.
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+Can i close the bug then?
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+&gt;<i> On 16 December 2012 12:38, Mika Laitio &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lamikr at pilppa.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Install started fine and offered that I have about 2200 rpm's to update.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> During the install some package seemed to hang (I don't remember anymore
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> which one) and I canceled install with ctrl-c and saw message about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> error in postinst section.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I run urpmi.update again and then &quot;urpmi auto-select&quot; and somehow
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ended up to situation where all my network interfaces are down
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe b/c kernel-firmware was upgraded first and your network card needs
+</I>&gt;<i> a firmware that is not compatible between different kernels
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and about 900 rpm's fail to install as some of their dependencies are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> missing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I tried to download and copy the missing rpm's with another computer to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> usb stick, but usb fails to mount... (I can not see /dev/sdb, etc...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> only /dev/sda which is my harddisk)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Strange... Probably related to your network issue.
+</I>&gt;<i> You could run &quot;modprobe usb_storage&quot; (you may also have to load the USB
+</I>&gt;<i> controller modules (see output of &quot;lspcidrake -v&quot;))
+</I>
+Yes, this indeed helped. modprobe usb_serial and then /dev/sdb* showed
+up and I was able to mount manually. May be related to fact that udev
+failed to start.
+
+&gt;<i> Didn't you reboot to a new kernel which you aborted the installation?
+</I>&gt;<i> What if you boot to an older kernel (eg mga2 one)?
+</I>
+Forget to say that I can get to console only from the &quot;mageia 3 safe
+mode&quot; grup option which goes directly to console.
+
+With normal mageia 3 or older mageia 2 kernel options I will eventually
+reach the login screen, but login itself always fails with all desktop
+envs I have and resets itself back to login screen again. (kde4, gnome,
+lxde, openbox, icewm)
+
+Now that I can mount the usb stick and manually copy the missing rpm's
+to harddrive, can I install these 900 rpm packages from this mga3 safe
+mode login, or should I create a new &quot;Mageia 3 upgrade preparation safe
+mode&quot; option to grup which has this rd.convertfs boot option and boot
+there for upgrading the rest of the rpm's from mga2 version to mga3?
+
+Mika
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+<PRE>On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:30:36 +0100, Nicolas L&#233;cureuil wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> is nepomuk enabled ?
+</I>
+In System Settings/desktop Search the following are all marked 'x' in
+the box:
+
+- 'Enable Nepomuk Semantic desktop'
+ &quot;Desktop search servcies are active&quot;
+
+ - 'File Indexer'
+ &quot;File indexer is suspended&quot; (?!)
+
+ - 'Enable Email indexer'
+
+In KMail/Inbox/Folder Properties/Maintenance:
+
+ x Enable Full Text Indexing
+ &quot;Folder was indexed Saturday 25 Aug 2012&quot; !!
+
+ So I hit 'Force reindexing' and went for a cup of coffee.
+ (Then it said &quot;Folder indexed Sunday Dec 16 2012&quot;)
+
+Then I did the Find Messages again (Inbox, From: &quot;gmail.com&quot;)
+ Result = Found 14 (whereas KDE 4.5.2's KMail finds 142)
+
+Then I repeated the Find Messages for 'From=yahoo.com'
+ Result: Finds 3 (whereas KDE 4.5.2's KMail finds 345 !)
+
+So it would seem reindexing is happening, but Find Messages is still
+working badly.
+
+Do please let me know if I can help further.
+
+I really want KMail's Find Messages to be working well so that I can
+make the move over onto Mageia from Mandriva!
+
+Regards,
+--
+/\/\aurice
+
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+<PRE>I cannot print on my photosmart 3100, which used to work like charm for
+ages...
+
+First I tried in mcc, but no way to detect my printer, then I do try &quot;HP
+Device Manager&quot; which shows my printer, but cannot do anything with it.
+
+I do not know what to provide, dmesg shows:
+
+[ 590.625037] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Test WP failed, assume Write Enabled
+[ 590.627155] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed
+[ 590.627164] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
+[ 601.327288] Did not find alt setting 1 for intf 0, config 1
+[ 601.327657] Did not find alt setting 1 for intf 0, config 1
+[ 601.328034] Did not find alt setting 1 for intf 0, config 1
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Mika Laitio at 16/12/12 17:00 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 12/16/2012 01:55 PM, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 16 December 2012 12:38, Mika Laitio &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lamikr at pilppa.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Install started fine and offered that I have about 2200 rpm's to update.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> During the install some package seemed to hang (I don't remember anymore
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> which one) and I canceled install with ctrl-c and saw message about
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> error in postinst section.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I run urpmi.update again and then &quot;urpmi auto-select&quot; and somehow
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ended up to situation where all my network interfaces are down
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maybe b/c kernel-firmware was upgraded first and your network card needs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a firmware that is not compatible between different kernels
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and about 900 rpm's fail to install as some of their dependencies are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> missing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I tried to download and copy the missing rpm's with another computer to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> usb stick, but usb fails to mount... (I can not see /dev/sdb, etc...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> only /dev/sda which is my harddisk)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Strange... Probably related to your network issue.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You could run &quot;modprobe usb_storage&quot; (you may also have to load the USB
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> controller modules (see output of &quot;lspcidrake -v&quot;))
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, this indeed helped. modprobe usb_serial and then /dev/sdb* showed
+</I>&gt;<i> up and I was able to mount manually. May be related to fact that udev
+</I>&gt;<i> failed to start.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Didn't you reboot to a new kernel which you aborted the installation?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What if you boot to an older kernel (eg mga2 one)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Forget to say that I can get to console only from the &quot;mageia 3 safe
+</I>&gt;<i> mode&quot; grup option which goes directly to console.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With normal mageia 3 or older mageia 2 kernel options I will eventually
+</I>&gt;<i> reach the login screen, but login itself always fails with all desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> envs I have and resets itself back to login screen again. (kde4, gnome,
+</I>&gt;<i> lxde, openbox, icewm)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now that I can mount the usb stick and manually copy the missing rpm's
+</I>&gt;<i> to harddrive, can I install these 900 rpm packages from this mga3 safe
+</I>&gt;<i> mode login, or should I create a new &quot;Mageia 3 upgrade preparation safe
+</I>&gt;<i> mode&quot; option to grup which has this rd.convertfs boot option and boot
+</I>&gt;<i> there for upgrading the rest of the rpm's from mga2 version to mga3?
+</I>
+Once the conversion has been done once, it doesn't need to run again
+(it's safe enough to do so, but it's a no-op and does nothing)
+
+
+The timeout you possibly saw was waiting for a service to restart or
+similar. Chances are it would have timed out eventually (but that
+timeout may be up to five minutes). It would be interesting to know
+which %postinst failed if you still have that info so I can try
+reproducing the situation and work on a more graceful solution.
+
+Col
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+<PRE>wally &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; writes:
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+&gt;<i> Name : wireshark Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version : 1.8.4 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release : 2.mga3 Build Date: Sat Dec 1 17:48:14 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group : Monitoring Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size : 24192404 License: GPLv2+ and GPLv3
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager : wally &lt;wally&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://www.wireshark.org">http://www.wireshark.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary : Network traffic analyzer
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> Wireshark is a network traffic analyzer for Unix-ish operating systems. It is
+</I>&gt;<i> based on GTK+, a graphical user interface library, and libpcap, a packet
+</I>&gt;<i> capture and filtering library.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> wally &lt;wally&gt; 1.8.4-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 324195
+</I>&gt;<i> - install dumpcap setuid root as upstream suggests (to allow to start wireshark as normal user)
+</I>&gt;<i> - drop run-as-root hacks
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+It seems you introduced a security flaw: now all users are able to
+capture the network traffic.
+
+This should be reverted, or restrictions should be added (maybe by
+making consolekit add acls if possible).
+
+--
+Olivier Blin - blino
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olivier Blin at 17/12/12 09:55 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> wally &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name : wireshark Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Version : 1.8.4 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Release : 2.mga3 Build Date: Sat Dec 1 17:48:14 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Group : Monitoring Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Size : 24192404 License: GPLv2+ and GPLv3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Packager : wally &lt;wally&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> URL : <A HREF="http://www.wireshark.org">http://www.wireshark.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Summary : Network traffic analyzer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wireshark is a network traffic analyzer for Unix-ish operating systems. It is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> based on GTK+, a graphical user interface library, and libpcap, a packet
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> capture and filtering library.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wally &lt;wally&gt; 1.8.4-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 324195
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - install dumpcap setuid root as upstream suggests (to allow to start wireshark as normal user)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - drop run-as-root hacks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems you introduced a security flaw: now all users are able to
+</I>&gt;<i> capture the network traffic.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This should be reverted, or restrictions should be added (maybe by
+</I>&gt;<i> making consolekit add acls if possible).
+</I>
+Perhaps only make it only work for users in the wheel group?
+
+Col
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>Le 17/12/2012 10:57, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wally &lt;wally&gt; 1.8.4-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 324195
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - install dumpcap setuid root as upstream suggests (to allow to start wireshark as normal user)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - drop run-as-root hacks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It seems you introduced a security flaw: now all users are able to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> capture the network traffic.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This should be reverted, or restrictions should be added (maybe by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> making consolekit add acls if possible).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps only make it only work for users in the wheel group?
+</I>What's the added-value of pushing this kind of pre-defined user
+management policies ? That's not packaging anymore, this is sysadmin
+duty for me.
+
+--
+BOFH excuse #185:
+
+system consumed all the paper for paging
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+On 16/12/12 22:25, Adrien Guichard wrote:
+&gt;<i> I cannot print on my photosmart 3100 &lt;tel:3100&gt;, which used to work
+</I>&gt;<i> like charm for ages...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First I tried in mcc, but no way to detect my printer, then I do
+</I>&gt;<i> try &quot;HP Device Manager&quot; which shows my printer, but cannot do
+</I>&gt;<i> anything with it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I do not know what to provide, dmesg shows:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [ 590.625037] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Test WP failed, assume Write
+</I>&gt;<i> Enabled [ 590.627155] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data
+</I>&gt;<i> failed [ 590.627164] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write
+</I>&gt;<i> through [ 601.327288] Did not find alt setting 1 for intf 0,
+</I>&gt;<i> config 1 [ 601.327657] Did not find alt setting 1 for intf 0,
+</I>&gt;<i> config 1 [ 601.328034] Did not find alt setting 1 for intf 0,
+</I>&gt;<i> config 1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any idea?
+</I>
+Try, as root, running hp-setup, just in case it has simply lost
+contact. HP device manager is fine when the device is working, but
+you need the setup if contact is lost.
+
+Anne
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+Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Blin at 17/12/12 09:55 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wally &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Name : wireshark Relocations: (not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; relocatable) Version : 1.8.4
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Vendor: Mageia.Org Release : 2.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Build Date: Sat Dec 1 17:48:14 2012 Install Date: (not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; installed) Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Group : Monitoring Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Size : 24192404 License: GPLv2+ and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GPLv3 Signature : (none) Packager : wally &lt;wally&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; URL : <A HREF="http://www.wireshark.org">http://www.wireshark.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Summary : Network traffic analyzer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Wireshark is a network traffic analyzer for Unix-ish operating
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; systems. It is based on GTK+, a graphical user interface library,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; and libpcap, a packet capture and filtering library.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; wally &lt;wally&gt; 1.8.4-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; + Revision: 324195
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - install dumpcap setuid root as upstream suggests (to allow to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; start wireshark as normal user)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - drop run-as-root hacks
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It seems you introduced a security flaw: now all users are able to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; capture the network traffic.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This should be reverted, or restrictions should be added (maybe by
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; making consolekit add acls if possible).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps only make it only work for users in the wheel group?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ah, yes. Didn't think that much. :\
+
+As Colin suggested we could &quot;chgrp wheel /usr/bin/dumpcap &amp;&amp; chmod
+4750 /usr/bin/dumpcap&quot;. Or we could create wireshark group for it and
+do the same.
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+sugar-pippy-activity, thanks.
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+<PRE>Op maandag 17 december 2012 11:14:00 schreef Guillaume Rousse:
+&gt;<i> Le 17/12/2012 10:57, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; wally &lt;wally&gt; 1.8.4-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; + Revision: 324195
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - install dumpcap setuid root as upstream suggests (to allow to start
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; wireshark as normal user) - drop run-as-root hacks
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It seems you introduced a security flaw: now all users are able to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; capture the network traffic.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; This should be reverted, or restrictions should be added (maybe by
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; making consolekit add acls if possible).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Perhaps only make it only work for users in the wheel group?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What's the added-value of pushing this kind of pre-defined user
+</I>&gt;<i> management policies ? That's not packaging anymore, this is sysadmin
+</I>&gt;<i> duty for me.
+</I>
+which is why imo the run-as-root hacks should be removed for something more
+KISS
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+<PRE>Le 17/12/2012 23:01, zezinho a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> If a python guru can give a hint about what is wrong when installing
+</I>&gt;<i> sugar-pippy-activity, thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/zezinho/dependencies.html">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/zezinho/dependencies.html</A>
+</I>Hi zezinho,
+
+your package is searching for python 2.5 but we have 2.7 and 3.3.
+The problem comes from this file :
+/usr/share/sugar/activities/Pippy.activity/library/pippy/physics/Elements-0.13-py2.5.egg
+
+I did not dig too much, but i think you should not include it, but have
+a require on a python-elements package (which we don't have it yet).
+
+my 2 cents
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+rpm-4.11 beta1 has been pushed to updates_release.
+It's ABI compatible with rpm-4.10.
+The API has just lost a couple unused defines.
+I've recompiled everything anyway just to be sure (but ocaml-dose3
+doesn't compile b/c of ocaml changes).
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+Stable release will be out in January.
+
+It works fine. All test suites pass. Please test.
+
+I plan to:
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+- enable -debuginfo packages in rpmlint
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+ and drop lot of patches
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+&gt;<i> rpm-4.11 beta1 has been pushed to updates_release.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's ABI compatible with rpm-4.10.
+</I>&gt;<i> The API has just lost a couple unused defines.
+</I>&gt;<i> I've recompiled everything anyway just to be sure (but ocaml-dose3
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't compile b/c of ocaml changes).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Stable release will be out in January.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It works fine. All test suites pass. Please test.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I plan to:
+</I>&gt;<i> - move it to core/release,
+</I>&gt;<i> - enable -debuginfo packages in rpmlint
+</I>&gt;<i> - switch from -debug to -debuginfo like other distro
+</I>&gt;<i> and drop lot of patches
+</I>
+Fore more information: <A HREF="http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.11.0">http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.11.0</A>
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+I also have a script python-pyp2rpm which is pending review right now.
+ This script makes it trivial to generate an SRPM from the PyPi
+package. I have about a dozen or so python packages that are pending
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+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm-4.11 beta1 has been pushed to updates_release.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's ABI compatible with rpm-4.10.
+</I>&gt;<i> The API has just lost a couple unused defines.
+</I>&gt;<i> I've recompiled everything anyway just to be sure (but ocaml-dose3
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't compile b/c of ocaml changes).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Stable release will be out in January.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It works fine. All test suites pass. Please test.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I plan to:
+</I>&gt;<i> - move it to core/release,
+</I>&gt;<i> - enable -debuginfo packages in rpmlint
+</I>&gt;<i> - switch from -debug to -debuginfo like other distro
+</I>&gt;<i> and drop lot of patches
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Does it fully support our rpmlib usrmove checks ?
+
+I know you dropped our patch as &quot;merged&quot; but we got
+atleast one report yesterday on irc about failing
+to create a iurt chroot on a cauldron host running
+rpm-4.11 from testing...
+
+--
+Thomas
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Stable release will be out in January.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It works fine. All test suites pass. Please test.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I plan to:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - move it to core/release,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - enable -debuginfo packages in rpmlint
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - switch from -debug to -debuginfo like other distro
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and drop lot of patches
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Does it fully support our rpmlib usrmove checks ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know you dropped our patch as &quot;merged&quot; but we got
+</I>&gt;<i> atleast one report yesterday on irc about failing
+</I>&gt;<i> to create a iurt chroot on a cauldron host running
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm-4.11 from testing...
+</I>
+Indeed I was mistaken, it was not merged (and it won't).
+Pushing with it
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+<PRE>On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 07:06:10PM -0500, Liam R E Quin wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 18:26 -0500, Charles A Edwards wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Beginning Tuesday 15 January 2013 radio streaming within the desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; client will only be available to Last.fm subscribers (monthly fee).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Due to this should not lastfm-player either be dropped or moved to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; nonfree now before Mga3 goes final?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The player can be free (libre, open source) even if the service is not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, it may well be less useful...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Liam
+</I>I second that. It&#8217;s not because the service is not free of charge
+anymore that the code becomes non-free. Since it&#8217;s GPLv2+, it should not
+leave core, neither be dropped.
+
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+<PRE>On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 12:20:52PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> recently, I had to create a .src.rpm for Fedora, and ran into some Mageia RPM
+</I>&gt;<i> SPEC paradigms that I was not familiar with, and had to ask on IRC or search
+</I>&gt;<i> the web. So I decided to make life easier and create something like to ease
+</I>&gt;<i> translating between the distributions: <A HREF="http://hyperpolyglot.org/scripting">http://hyperpolyglot.org/scripting</A> .
+</I>&gt;<i> So see:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia-Mandriva-Fedora-SUSE_RPM_Spec_Lingo">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia-Mandriva-Fedora-SUSE_RPM_Spec_Lingo</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's currently very much work in progress, and the formatting could use some
+</I>&gt;<i> work, but it's a start. Feel free to contribute - Be Bold and edit.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shlomi Fish
+</I>Hi,
+
+Thanks for starting such a page, I think it can be very useful, I just
+hope people don&#8217;t start to write spec translators and ditch all our
+policies or differences in implementation (like filetriggers for
+instance)
+
+I don&#8217;t have much ideas to complement your work, but for me the most
+striking example of our difference is %mkrel, because every spec out
+there use it, but I&#8217;m not sure about their equivalent in other rpm-based
+distributions. It would be great if some kind of standardization could
+emerge from this and help reducing the gap between our specs.
+
+Regards,
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+&gt;<i> FYI, I just checked in a python-elements SRPM. I don't have the
+</I>&gt;<i> ability to kick off a build, so someone else needs to do it to get
+</I>&gt;<i> python-elements.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Pending_packages">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Pending_packages</A>
+</I>will try to have a look at this week end if no one else do it before
+
+but I have also to take care of my packages
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+&gt;<i> Another thing is that some pakcages listed in task-obsolete clearly doesn't belong there.
+</I>&gt;<i> I took a quick glance on the spec file for task-obsolete. and I notice that some of the packages listed should be listed in the packages that replace them.
+</I>&gt;<i> One example is &#171;policykit&#187; where the comment says is replaced by &#171;polkit&#187;. I've read in other mails on this list that in situations where a package is replaced by a package with another name, the new package should obsolete the old one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I&#8217;m not so sure about that. The problem with obsoletes is that once you
+put it in the spec you can&#8217;t remove it until the last supported release
+that included the old package is eol&#8217;d (and assuming one doesn&#8217;t upgrade
+from a very old release straight to the last one).
+
+The consequence of this is that over time spec files tend to carry a lot
+of history which kind of gets in the way. Having a task-obsolete is a
+nice way to tidy specfiles and have all that garbage in only one can.
+
+It can also help automating cleanup, because there&#8217;s only one spec file
+to update once a distribution gets eol&#8217;d. With obsoletes in each spec
+file we tend to forget these obsoletes are obsolete themselves and carry
+useless instructions.
+
+Of course it means more work first because you have 2 packages to modify
+and submit, but in the long run I think it can help keeping the specs
+clear, and I hope the intent of this package was this.
+
+I may be wrong, but if you agree with that, a nice addition would be to
+add a convention, no wait, a policy to tell how to add a package to
+task-obsolete like adding a comment before with a timestamp or a
+distribution release number so that it can effectively be cleaned.
+
+Regards,
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+ <B>sardine</B>
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+I've noticed that in some python packages pyc and pyo files are not generated and thus not included. In Fedora the script brp-python-bytecompile is called at the end of the %install scriptlet ( <A HREF="http://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/redhat-rpm-config/tree/macros">http://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/redhat-rpm-config/tree/macros</A> ). Shouldn't it be the same in Mageia ?
+
+Regards.
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+ <B>Christian Lohmaier</B>
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+bringing it to the list as suggested.
+
+So anyone who thinks it would be a bad idea to run the mlocate cronjob
+in IDLE i/o class?
+
+ciao
+Christian
+
+---------- Forwarded message ----------
+From: David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Date: Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:09 PM
+Subject: [Bug 8426] mlocate - cron should use idle i/o priority
+To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lohmaier+mageia at googlemail.com</A>
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+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8426">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8426</A>
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+David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; changed:
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+ What |Removed |Added
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------
+ CC| |<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>
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+--- Comment #1 from David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; 2012-12-18
+23:09:32 CET ---
+This sounds reasonable to me. Maybe send a mail to the mageia-dev mailing list
+and see if anyone can think of any reason not to do this? If no objections, I
+can make the change.
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+&gt;<i> Hi *,
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+</I>&gt;<i> bringing it to the list as suggested.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So anyone who thinks it would be a bad idea to run the mlocate cronjob
+</I>&gt;<i> in IDLE i/o class?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Please do so, msec checks also should run at idle class, as example they
+bring flickering for video players when launched
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+<PRE>Le 18/12/2012 14:44, Joseph Wang a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> FYI, I just checked in a python-elements SRPM. I don't have the
+</I>&gt;<i> ability to kick off a build, so someone else needs to do it to get
+</I>&gt;<i> python-elements.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I also have a script python-pyp2rpm which is pending review right now.
+</I>&gt;<i> This script makes it trivial to generate an SRPM from the PyPi
+</I>&gt;<i> package. I have about a dozen or so python packages that are pending
+</I>&gt;<i> review by a mentor. Se....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Pending_packages">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Pending_packages</A>
+</I>
+I have just submitted python-elements. Just changed the %define version
+to follow our policy. Maybe you could change the script do work this way?
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+<PRE>Le 18/12/2012 10:13, Claire REVILLET a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 17/12/2012 23:01, zezinho a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If a python guru can give a hint about what is wrong when installing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sugar-pippy-activity, thanks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/zezinho/dependencies.html">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/zezinho/dependencies.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi zezinho,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> your package is searching for python 2.5 but we have 2.7 and 3.3.
+</I>&gt;<i> The problem comes from this file :
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/sugar/activities/Pippy.activity/library/pippy/physics/Elements-0.13-py2.5.egg
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did not dig too much, but i think you should not include it, but have
+</I>&gt;<i> a require on a python-elements package (which we don't have it yet).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> my 2 cents
+</I>&gt;<i> Claire
+</I>thanks, and now Wang just brought python-elements ;-)
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+&gt;<i> oden &lt;oden&gt; 3.5.4-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 332803
+</I>&gt;<i> - bump release
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+</I>That's a sysadmin duty, not a packager one.
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+ <I>Wed Dec 19 13:10:44 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 03:11:47 +0100 (CET)
+fwang wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Name : gamin Relocations: (not
+</I>&gt;<i> relocatable) Version : 0.1.10 Vendor:
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia.Org Release : 9.mga3 Build Date:
+</I>&gt;<i> Tue Dec 18 03:10:24 2012 Install Date: (not installed)
+</I>&gt;<i> Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org Group :
+</I>&gt;<i> Monitoring Source RPM: (none) Size :
+</I>&gt;<i> 457910 License: LGPLv2+ Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager : fwang &lt;fwang&gt;
+</I>
+Currently
+%package -n %{develname}
+
+Requires: %{libname} = %{version}
+Requires: %{libfam} = %{version}
+
+This should be changed to %{version}-%{release}
+
+
+ Charles
+
+--
+The worst part of having success is trying to find someone who is happy
+for you. -- Bette Midler
+----------------------
+Mageia release 3 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
+On SuperSize....<A HREF="http://www.eslrahc.com">http://www.eslrahc.com</A>
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+&gt;<i> I've noticed that in some python packages pyc and pyo files are not generated and thus not included. In Fedora the script brp-python-bytecompile is called at the end of the %install scriptlet ( <A HREF="http://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/redhat-rpm-config/tree/macros">http://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/redhat-rpm-config/tree/macros</A> ). Shouldn't it be the same in Mageia ?
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+ <B>Guillaume Rousse</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09wireshark-1.8.4-3.mga3&In-Reply-To=%3C50D1F1BD.4020903%40gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>Le 19/12/2012 17:44, wally a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> wally &lt;wally&gt; 1.8.4-3.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 332816
+</I>&gt;<i> - add README.urpmi about capturing packets (based on README.debian)
+</I>&gt;<i> - allow non-root users capture packets only if they're members of wireshark group
+</I>&gt;<i> - create wireshark group for dumpcap
+</I>Once again, that's not packager duty, and there is very few added value
+to hardcode privileges management policies at the packaging level.
+
+If you really want to do this, you'd better do it with a dedicated tool,
+such as msec.
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+ <B>Remy CLOUARD</B>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+Could someone remove the following RPMs from the repos:
+
+ruby-rcov-doc: ruby-rcov has been superseded by ruby-simplecov, has been
+removed from the mirrors, but the -doc package is still there
+
+ruby-oa-oauth and ruby-oa-oauth-doc
+ruby-oa-more and ruby-oa-more-doc
+ruby-oa-enterprise and ruby-oa-enterprise-doc
+ruby-oa-core and ruby-oa-core-doc
+ruby-oa-openid and ruby-oa-openid-doc
+ruby-oa-basic and ruby-oa-basic-doc
+
+the reason for dropping all these ruby-oa packages is because the
+omniauth framework is packaged very differently starting from 1.0.
+
+This break teambox but the package has many more broken dependencies and
+is rather outdated (there&#8217;s a rails 3 branch I should update it to)
+
+Thanks in advance,
+
+Regards,
+--
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+ <B>Richard Couture</B>
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+<PRE>I run a mirror that syncs directly with
+<A HREF="rsync://rsync.mageia.org/mageia/">rsync://rsync.mageia.org/mageia/</A>
+and it is giving me the following errors...
+
+ Pass 3
+receiving file list ... done
+rsync: send_files failed to open
+&quot;/iso/cauldron/torrents/Mageia-3-beta1-LiveCD-GNOME-en-i586-CD.torrent&quot;
+(in mageia): Permission denied (13)
+rsync: send_files failed to open
+&quot;/iso/cauldron/torrents/Mageia-3-beta1-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD.torrent&quot;
+(in mageia): Permission denied (13)
+rsync: send_files failed to open
+&quot;/iso/cauldron/torrents/Mageia-3-beta1-LiveDVD-GNOME-i586-DVD.torrent&quot;
+(in mageia): Permission denied (13)
+rsync: send_files failed to open
+&quot;/iso/cauldron/torrents/Mageia-3-beta1-LiveDVD-GNOME-x86_64-DVD.torrent&quot;
+(in mageia): Permission denied (13)
+rsync: send_files failed to open
+&quot;/iso/cauldron/torrents/Mageia-3-beta1-LiveDVD-KDE4-i586-DVD.torrent&quot;
+(in mageia): Permission denied (13)
+rsync: send_files failed to open
+&quot;/iso/cauldron/torrents/Mageia-3-beta1-LiveDVD-KDE4-x86_64-DVD.torrent&quot;
+(in mageia): Permission denied (13)
+rsync: send_files failed to open
+&quot;/iso/cauldron/torrents/Mageia-3-beta1-i586-DVD.torrent&quot; (in mageia):
+Permission denied (13)
+rsync: send_files failed to open
+&quot;/iso/cauldron/torrents/Mageia-3-beta1-x86_64-DVD.torrent&quot; (in mageia):
+Permission denied (13)
+IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion
+
+Therefore I can not sync anything that follows....
+
+Could someone take a look please
+
+
+
+Richard
+
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could someone remove the following RPMs from the repos:
+</I>
+Please don't.
+
+&gt;<i> ruby-rcov-doc: ruby-rcov has been superseded by ruby-simplecov, has been
+</I>&gt;<i> removed from the mirrors, but the -doc package is still there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ruby-oa-oauth and ruby-oa-oauth-doc
+</I>&gt;<i> ruby-oa-more and ruby-oa-more-doc
+</I>&gt;<i> ruby-oa-enterprise and ruby-oa-enterprise-doc
+</I>&gt;<i> ruby-oa-core and ruby-oa-core-doc
+</I>&gt;<i> ruby-oa-openid and ruby-oa-openid-doc
+</I>&gt;<i> ruby-oa-basic and ruby-oa-basic-doc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the reason for dropping all these ruby-oa packages is because the
+</I>&gt;<i> omniauth framework is packaged very differently starting from 1.0.
+</I>
+Then why aren't there Obsoletes/Provides tags so that upgrade can works?
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+ <B>Olivier Thauvin</B>
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+<PRE>* Richard Couture (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rrc at LinuxCabal.org</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> I run a mirror that syncs directly with
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="rsync://rsync.mageia.org/mageia/">rsync://rsync.mageia.org/mageia/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> and it is giving me the following errors...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Pass 3
+</I>&gt;<i> receiving file list ... done
+</I>&gt;<i> rsync: send_files failed to open &quot;/iso/cauldron/torrents/Mageia-3-beta1-LiveCD-GNOME-en-i586-CD.torrent&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> (in mageia): Permission denied (13)
+</I>&gt;<i> rsync: send_files failed to open &quot;/iso/cauldron/torrents/Mageia-3-beta1-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD.torrent&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> (in mageia): Permission denied (13)
+</I>&gt;<i> rsync: send_files failed to open &quot;/iso/cauldron/torrents/Mageia-3-beta1-LiveDVD-GNOME-i586-DVD.torrent&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> (in mageia): Permission denied (13)
+</I>&gt;<i> rsync: send_files failed to open &quot;/iso/cauldron/torrents/Mageia-3-beta1-LiveDVD-GNOME-x86_64-DVD.torrent&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> (in mageia): Permission denied (13)
+</I>&gt;<i> rsync: send_files failed to open
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;/iso/cauldron/torrents/Mageia-3-beta1-LiveDVD-KDE4-i586-DVD.torrent&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> (in mageia): Permission denied (13)
+</I>&gt;<i> rsync: send_files failed to open &quot;/iso/cauldron/torrents/Mageia-3-beta1-LiveDVD-KDE4-x86_64-DVD.torrent&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> (in mageia): Permission denied (13)
+</I>&gt;<i> rsync: send_files failed to open
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;/iso/cauldron/torrents/Mageia-3-beta1-i586-DVD.torrent&quot; (in
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia): Permission denied (13)
+</I>&gt;<i> rsync: send_files failed to open
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;/iso/cauldron/torrents/Mageia-3-beta1-x86_64-DVD.torrent&quot; (in
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia): Permission denied (13)
+</I>&gt;<i> IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Therefore I can not sync anything that follows....
+</I>
+I just fixed it.
+
+Regards.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could someone take a look please
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Richard
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
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+<PRE>On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 07:07:13AM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 19 December 2012 22:41, Remy CLOUARD &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">shikamaru at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Could someone remove the following RPMs from the repos:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please don't.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ruby-rcov-doc: ruby-rcov has been superseded by ruby-simplecov, has been
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; removed from the mirrors, but the -doc package is still there
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ruby-oa-oauth and ruby-oa-oauth-doc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ruby-oa-more and ruby-oa-more-doc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ruby-oa-enterprise and ruby-oa-enterprise-doc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ruby-oa-core and ruby-oa-core-doc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ruby-oa-openid and ruby-oa-openid-doc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ruby-oa-basic and ruby-oa-basic-doc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the reason for dropping all these ruby-oa packages is because the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; omniauth framework is packaged very differently starting from 1.0.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then why aren't there Obsoletes/Provides tags so that upgrade can works?
+</I>ok will do
+
+Regards,
+--
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+ <B>Frank Griffin</B>
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+<PRE>The following keeps showing up:
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+rsync: readdir(&quot;/mnt/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release&quot;): Too many
+levels of symbolic links (40)
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+<PRE>* Frank Griffin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> The following keeps showing up:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> rsync: readdir(&quot;/mnt/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release&quot;): Too many
+</I>&gt;<i> levels of symbolic links (40)
+</I>&gt;<i> IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion
+</I>
+Seems to work here and /mnt/cauldron/ does not refer to a directory on
+distrib-coffee.
+
+Can you please give the rsync command line you're using ?
+
+Regards.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> * Frank Griffin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The following keeps showing up:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rsync: readdir(&quot;/mnt/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release&quot;): Too many
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> levels of symbolic links (40)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion
+</I>&gt;<i> Seems to work here and /mnt/cauldron/ does not refer to a directory on
+</I>&gt;<i> distrib-coffee.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you please give the rsync command line you're using ?
+</I>
+/mnt/cauldron is my mount point for the mirror of mageia. The command is:
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+HOST=&quot;distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr::mageia/distrib/cauldron/&quot;
+rsync -a$1lH --delete --progress --partial --no-whole-file
+${HOST}x86_64/ /mnt/cauldron/x86_64/
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+This only started in the last day or so.
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+I have made some changes to shorewall:
+- updated version to the newest
+- removed (partly?) initrc stuff
+- added new submodule -core
+- adjusted package for USR MOVE
+- added SYSTEMD
+- removed hard dependency on dash
+- cleaned a bit
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+Please review this package (this means to finish the systemd &amp; usrmove
+parts) and submit to Cauldron.
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+&gt;<i>- removed hard dependency on dash
+</I>
+Why?
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+&gt;<i>From man shorewall.conf:
+</I>SHOREWALL_SHELL=[pathname] This option is used to specify the shell
+program to be used to run the Shorewall compiler and to interpret the
+compiled script. If not specified or specified as a null value, /bin/sh is
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+<PRE>* Frank Griffin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> /mnt/cauldron is my mount point for the mirror of mageia. The command is:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> HOST=&quot;distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr::mageia/distrib/cauldron/&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> rsync -a$1lH --delete --progress --partial --no-whole-file
+</I>&gt;<i> ${HOST}x86_64/ /mnt/cauldron/x86_64/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This only started in the last day or so.
+</I>
+Mostly the same rsync I started yesterday end succefully this morning.
+
+It seems the problem is on your side.
+
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+&gt;<i> On 21 December 2012 01:31, Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have made some changes to shorewall:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - updated version to the newest
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - removed (partly?) initrc stuff
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - added new submodule -core
+</I>&gt;<i> why? what's its purpose?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Upstream change. There is a new -core package and it has to be installed
+before the flavours.
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 01:31:34 +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote about
+</I>&gt;<i> [Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - removed hard dependency on dash
+</I>&gt;<i> Why?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;From man shorewall.conf:
+</I>&gt;<i> SHOREWALL_SHELL=[pathname] This option is used to specify the shell
+</I>&gt;<i> program to be used to run the Shorewall compiler and to interpret the
+</I>&gt;<i> compiled script. If not specified or specified as a null value, /bin/sh is
+</I>&gt;<i> assumed. Using a light-weight shell such as ash or dash can significantly
+</I>&gt;<i> improve performance.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> =Dick Gevers=
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>As it's pointed out, it's task for administrators not packagers. There
+is just need to symlink /usr/bin/sh to the right shell interpreter.
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+&gt;&gt;<i> [Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - removed hard dependency on dash
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;From man shorewall.conf:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> SHOREWALL_SHELL=[pathname] This option is used to specify the shell
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> program to be used to run the Shorewall compiler and to interpret the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> compiled script. If not specified or specified as a null value, /bin/sh is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> assumed. Using a light-weight shell such as ash or dash can significantly
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> improve performance.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As it's pointed out, it's task for administrators not packagers. There is
+</I>&gt;<i> just need to symlink /usr/bin/sh to the right shell interpreter.
+</I>
+Using dash was done for performance.
+Dash is always installed (it's required by glibc &amp; dracut).
+Administrator can change the config if it want, the idea was to get
+a reasonable fast default.
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+ <B>Guillaume Rousse</B>
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+&gt;<i> On 21.12.2012 09:12, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 21 December 2012 01:31, Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have made some changes to shorewall:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - updated version to the newest
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - removed (partly?) initrc stuff
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - added new submodule -core
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> why? what's its purpose?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Upstream change. There is a new -core package and it has to be installed
+</I>&gt;<i> before the flavours.
+</I>We are the packagers, we decide how we split files in different
+packages. Unless upstream distribute it separatly, we don't need a
+different package here.
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+I am considering only keeping logs for latest build (or maybe the
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+&gt;<i> Logs for each run are about 1.5G
+</I>
+&gt;<i> I am considering only keeping logs for latest build (or maybe the
+</I>&gt;<i> previous success if the package is now failing)
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think?
+</I>I'm fine with that. Thanks for your good work.
+
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+&gt;<i> Logs for each run are about 1.5G
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am considering only keeping logs for latest build (or maybe the
+</I>&gt;<i> previous success if the package is now failing)
+</I>
+Maybe keep an old failed build log if the latest build also failed and the
+log file sizes are different (e.g. &gt;1k smaller or larger).
+
+In the 18-12 run some package builds were still killed (timeout?) e.g.
+chromium-browser-unstable-25.0.1354.0-1.mga3.src.rpm . Maybe this can be
+noted on the webpage, and even be included in the statistics (#timeouts
+listed).
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+<PRE>On Friday 21 December 2012, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+&gt;<i> Logs for each run are about 1.5G
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+Are they still 1.5G after compression?
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Logs for each run are about 1.5G
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+</I>&gt;<i> Are they still 1.5G after compression?
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+Compressing them would help <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6969">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6969</A>
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Christiaan Welvaart
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cjw at daneel.dyndns.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Logs for each run are about 1.5G
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am considering only keeping logs for latest build (or maybe the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> previous success if the package is now failing)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe keep an old failed build log if the latest build also failed and the
+</I>&gt;<i> log file sizes are different (e.g. &gt;1k smaller or larger).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the 18-12 run some package builds were still killed (timeout?) e.g.
+</I>&gt;<i> chromium-browser-unstable-25.0.1354.0-1.mga3.src.rpm . Maybe this can be
+</I>&gt;<i> noted on the webpage, and even be included in the statistics (#timeouts
+</I>&gt;<i> listed).
+</I>
+Actually I try to identify those and add them to the config file
+
+chromium-browser-unstable successfuly built during the run in progress
+(will be finished later):
+
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/cauldron/x86_64/core/2012-12-20/chromium-browser-unstable-25.0.1354.0-1.mga3.src.rpm/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/autobuild/cauldron/x86_64/core/2012-12-20/chromium-browser-unstable-25.0.1354.0-1.mga3.src.rpm/</A>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:27 PM, P. Christeas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">xrg at linux.gr</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Friday 21 December 2012, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Logs for each run are about 1.5G
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are they still 1.5G after compression?
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+Good point, I could compress the past ones but it would still grow
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+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7589">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7589</A>
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+<PRE>Hi *,
+
+I wondered about this for quite some time.. When you view the
+changelog when updating your system, it is very hard to see what
+actually did change in that new release.
+
+For example the current cups update:
+Version available: 1.5.4-1.1.mga2
+currently installed: 1.5.4-1.mga2
+
+Changelog:
+ * So 16 Dez 2012 13:00:00 CET oden &lt;oden&gt; 1.5.4-1.1.mga2
+
+ + Revision: 331722
+ - P103: attempt to fix #8318 (some usb printers stopped working)
+ - 1.5.4
+ - sync patches and some changes from cauldron
+ - P102: security fix for CVE-2012-5519 (upstream, redhat)
+ - merge spec file changes from fedora to deal with the new
+cups-files.conf file
+
+ + guillomovitch &lt;guillomovitch&gt;
+ - add upstream patches to fix #4673
+
+ + tmb &lt;tmb&gt;
+ - Require rpm-helper &gt;= 0.24.8-1 for systemd support
+
+ * Fr 27 Apr 2012 14:00:00 CEST tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 1.5.2-4.mga2
+
+ + Revision: 233546
+[....]
+
+So what did actually change between 1.5.4-1.mga2 to 1.5.4-1.1.mga2?
+
+This time there is a hint about a major version bump in an update, so
+I can only assume the change is only &quot;P103: attempt to fix #8318 (some
+usb printers stopped working)&quot;
+(what does P# stand for btw? Is there a list of annotations used in changelogs?)
+
+Why aren't changelogs separated by actual release?
+
+ciao
+Christian
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+ <B>Joseph Wang</B>
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+<PRE>I added some info to the bug. Basically what I think is happening is
+somewhere in the configure script it's setting the directory to
+/usr/lib64 rather than /usr/lib. I'd look at the logs of the 32-bit
+build where it's setting the libraries to make sure those are all set
+to /usr/lib rather than /usr/lib64.
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+I don't have a 32-bit environment handy so I can't build it easily,
+but I'd look at the logs for your build and look for the string lib64.
+ There shouldn't be any.
+
+On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 12:28 AM, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev-request at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> I don't have a 32-bit environment handy so I can't build it easily,
+</I>&gt;<i> but I'd look at the logs for your build and look for the string lib64.
+</I>&gt;<i> There shouldn't be any.
+</I>
+And there isn't any.
+I have uploaded the 32 bit build log, in case you find something interesting there.
+<A HREF="http://www.solbu.net/mga2-log/log-ganglia-32bit.txt">http://www.solbu.net/mga2-log/log-ganglia-32bit.txt</A>
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+<PRE>21.12.2012 18:28, Christian Lohmaier kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Hi *,
+</I>
+Hi!
+
+&gt;<i> I wondered about this for quite some time.. When you view the
+</I>&gt;<i> changelog when updating your system, it is very hard to see what
+</I>&gt;<i> actually did change in that new release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For example the current cups update:
+</I>&gt;<i> Version available: 1.5.4-1.1.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> currently installed: 1.5.4-1.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Changelog:
+</I>&gt;<i> * So 16 Dez 2012 13:00:00 CET oden &lt;oden&gt; 1.5.4-1.1.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 331722
+</I>&gt;<i> - P103: attempt to fix #8318 (some usb printers stopped working)
+</I>&gt;<i> - 1.5.4
+</I>&gt;<i> - sync patches and some changes from cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> - P102: security fix for CVE-2012-5519 (upstream, redhat)
+</I>&gt;<i> - merge spec file changes from fedora to deal with the new
+</I>&gt;<i> cups-files.conf file
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + guillomovitch &lt;guillomovitch&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> - add upstream patches to fix #4673
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + tmb &lt;tmb&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> - Require rpm-helper &gt;= 0.24.8-1 for systemd support
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * Fr 27 Apr 2012 14:00:00 CEST tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 1.5.2-4.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 233546
+</I>&gt;<i> [....]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So what did actually change between 1.5.4-1.mga2 to 1.5.4-1.1.mga2?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This time there is a hint about a major version bump in an update, so
+</I>&gt;<i> I can only assume the change is only &quot;P103: attempt to fix #8318 (some
+</I>&gt;<i> usb printers stopped working)&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> (what does P# stand for btw? Is there a list of annotations used in changelogs?)
+</I>
+P103 means Patch #103 (it is in arbitrary number and not meaningful for
+end users). No list that I know of.
+
+&gt;<i> Why aren't changelogs separated by actual release?
+</I>
+This is not by intention, it is a bug in the build system:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3666">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3666</A>
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at lux</A> openvpn]# systemctl restart <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">openvpn at lux.moov.com.mx.service</A>
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at lux</A> openvpn]# systemctl status <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">openvpn at lux.moov.com.mx.service</A>
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">openvpn at lux.moov.com.mx.service</A> - OpenVPN Robust And Highly Flexible
+Tunneling Application On lux.moov.com.mx
+ Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">openvpn at .service</A>; enabled)
+ Active: active (running) since Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:53:31 -0600; 4s ago
+ Process: 2539 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/openvpn --daemon --writepid
+/var/run/openvpn/%i.pid --cd /etc/openvpn/ --config %i.conf
+(code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
+ Main PID: 2540 (openvpn)
+ CGroup: name=systemd:/system/<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">openvpn at .service</A>/lux.moov.com.mx
+ &#9492; 2540 /usr/sbin/openvpn --daemon --writepid /var/run/ope...
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at lux</A> openvpn]# systemctl enable <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">openvpn at lux.moov.com.mx.service</A>
+Failed to issue method call: No such file or directory
+
+and of course chkconfig doesn't work either
+
+
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+<PRE>I need some help debuging a problem with automount and DBus in KDE. For
+example, a USB key is recognized in the log files, but won't mount or show
+in Dolphin.
+
+All was fine till a few days ago. Gnome works as expected. I suspect it's
+related to another problem I'm having with DBus. Here are some symptoms:
+
+]$ dbus-monitor --system
+Failed to open connection to system bus: The maximum number of active
+connections for UID 502 has been reached
+
+When I go in to the &quot;Actions Policy&quot; in the KDE System Settings, it comes up
+empty under KDE. In Gnome, it is filled in with the policy settings.
+
+tail -f /var/log/messages when pluggin in a USB key:
+Dec 21 21:21:40 Parkes kernel: usb 8-2: new high-speed USB device number 2
+using ehci_hcd
+Dec 21 21:21:40 Parkes kernel: usb 8-2: New USB device found, idVendor=058f,
+idProduct=6387
+Dec 21 21:21:40 Parkes kernel: usb 8-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1,
+Product=2, SerialNumber=3
+Dec 21 21:21:40 Parkes kernel: usb 8-2: Product: Mass Storage
+Dec 21 21:21:40 Parkes kernel: usb 8-2: Manufacturer: Generic
+Dec 21 21:21:40 Parkes kernel: usb 8-2: SerialNumber: DA9792AB
+Dec 21 21:21:42 Parkes mtp-probe: checking bus 8, device 2:
+&quot;/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb8/8-2&quot;
+Dec 21 21:21:42 Parkes mtp-probe: bus: 8, device: 2 was not an MTP device
+Dec 21 21:21:40 Parkes kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
+Dec 21 21:21:40 Parkes kernel: scsi22 : usb-storage 8-2:1.0
+Dec 21 21:21:40 Parkes kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-
+storage
+Dec 21 21:21:40 Parkes kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered.
+Dec 21 21:21:41 Parkes kernel: scsi 22:0:0:0: Direct-Access USB2.0
+FlashDisk 8.07 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
+Dec 21 21:21:41 Parkes kernel: sd 22:0:0:0: [sdg] 2015232 512-byte logical
+blocks: (1.03 GB/984 MiB)
+Dec 21 21:21:41 Parkes kernel: sd 22:0:0:0: [sdg] Write Protect is off
+Dec 21 21:21:41 Parkes kernel: sd 22:0:0:0: [sdg] No Caching mode page
+present
+Dec 21 21:21:41 Parkes kernel: sd 22:0:0:0: [sdg] Assuming drive cache:
+write through
+Dec 21 21:21:41 Parkes kernel: sd 22:0:0:0: [sdg] No Caching mode page
+present
+Dec 21 21:21:41 Parkes kernel: sd 22:0:0:0: [sdg] Assuming drive cache:
+write through
+Dec 21 21:21:41 Parkes kernel: sdg: sdg1
+Dec 21 21:21:41 Parkes kernel: sd 22:0:0:0: [sdg] No Caching mode page
+present
+Dec 21 21:21:41 Parkes kernel: sd 22:0:0:0: [sdg] Assuming drive cache:
+write through
+Dec 21 21:21:41 Parkes kernel: sd 22:0:0:0: [sdg] Attached SCSI removable
+disk
+Dec 21 21:29:29 Parkes kernel: usb 8-2: USB disconnect, device number 2
+
+thanks,
+Curtis
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+On 19/12/2012 11:36, Ra wrote:
+&gt;<i> just an idea of the day well i thought about music first. i've been
+</I>&gt;<i> thinking about using jamendo while install and decided that all it
+</I>&gt;<i> needs is some prebuilt clementine like client with access to
+</I>&gt;<i> internet only, but then thinking of policies and CPU time i decided
+</I>&gt;<i> to move forward and an idea is to include the music player into
+</I>&gt;<i> login screen. well first problem is that when you exit the session
+</I>&gt;<i> the music players usually stops so you need to execute it in
+</I>&gt;<i> parallel terminal and i thought that if the player with strict
+</I>&gt;<i> functions can be accessed without logging into the system with some
+</I>&gt;<i> /music_make_some_magic shared for this purposes for the user that
+</I>&gt;<i> executes the player process and access to internet (if root is
+</I>&gt;<i> pretty gentle) then most of people can use it like a player - that
+</I>&gt;<i> is one of the reasons that people uses the computer - the second is
+</I>&gt;<i> web browser, so this can be built into the logon too but without
+</I>&gt;<i> using sensitive information, so you can just go to control center
+</I>&gt;<i> and enable player function and browser and it will be working, if
+</I>&gt;<i> you need your own collection of music or your very needed passwords
+</I>&gt;<i> then you need to login into system. But actually it's about music
+</I>&gt;<i> and music player really. i just think that most of the people who
+</I>&gt;<i> uses their computers at home usually not setting the passwords and
+</I>&gt;<i> doing the automatic login it means that they don't care of the
+</I>&gt;<i> security and all they need is not too much. Or you can take the
+</I>&gt;<i> system on the notebook and to simply play music or check some news
+</I>&gt;<i> you will need to login, while it is not needed especially if
+</I>&gt;<i> someone else asks you to look some site that you don't know.
+</I>
+Isn't this more something to write to the mageia-development mailing
+list? <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A>
+
+They are the ones who'll know whether it can be made possible without
+major problems to listen to music while installing Mageia and/or
+before logging in, and if it is possible and OK, one of them must be
+willing to write the needed code.
+
+About the last part of your mail:
+
+Personally, I know only very few people who don't need a password to
+use their computer. The few I do know, still don't want to have an
+insecure system.
+
+If you need to check a website that you don't trust, you could use the
+guest account (no password needed and it uses a restricted shell)
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+I'm not able to shut down the computer directly from lxde, I have to logoff and do that from the dm. After searching what could be the problem, I found that consolekit is needed to have this functionnality ( <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800658">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800658</A> ) and that lxsession requires consolekit in the Fedora package.
+
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+<PRE>Le 22/12/2012 11:52, sardine a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not able to shut down the computer directly from lxde, I have to logoff and do that from the dm. After searching what could be the problem, I found that consolekit is needed to have this functionnality ( <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800658">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800658</A> ) and that lxsession requires consolekit in the Fedora package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunately, consolekit is no more available in Mageia, it has been dropped a few months ago.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards.
+</I>
+possible fix : <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8073#c2">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8073#c2</A>
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+<PRE>Le 22/12/2012 11:52, sardine a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not able to shut down the computer directly from lxde, I have to logoff and do that from the dm. After searching what could be the problem, I found that consolekit is needed to have this functionnality ( <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800658">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800658</A> ) and that lxsession requires consolekit in the Fedora package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unfortunately, consolekit is no more available in Mageia, it has been dropped a few months ago.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards.
+</I>
+&gt;<i>possible fix : <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8073#c2">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8073#c2</A>
+</I>
+Thanks, I've applied a patch from Archlinux, it works perfectly. I've added a comment on the bug report.
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+<PRE>Jani V&#228;limaa wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:57:13 +0000
+</I>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Blin at 17/12/12 09:55 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; wally &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Name : wireshark Relocations: (not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; relocatable) Version : 1.8.4
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Vendor: Mageia.Org Release : 2.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Build Date: Sat Dec 1 17:48:14 2012 Install Date: (not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; installed) Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Group : Monitoring Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Size : 24192404 License: GPLv2+ and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GPLv3 Signature : (none) Packager : wally &lt;wally&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; URL : <A HREF="http://www.wireshark.org">http://www.wireshark.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Summary : Network traffic analyzer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Wireshark is a network traffic analyzer for Unix-ish operating
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; systems. It is based on GTK+, a graphical user interface library,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; and libpcap, a packet capture and filtering library.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; wally &lt;wally&gt; 1.8.4-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; + Revision: 324195
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - install dumpcap setuid root as upstream suggests (to allow to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; start wireshark as normal user)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - drop run-as-root hacks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; It seems you introduced a security flaw: now all users are able to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; capture the network traffic.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; This should be reverted, or restrictions should be added (maybe by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; making consolekit add acls if possible).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Perhaps only make it only work for users in the wheel group?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah, yes. Didn't think that much. :\
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As Colin suggested we could &quot;chgrp wheel /usr/bin/dumpcap &amp;&amp; chmod
+</I>&gt;<i> 4750 /usr/bin/dumpcap&quot;. Or we could create wireshark group for it and
+</I>&gt;<i> do the same.
+</I>
+I see you did the wireshark group (better choice than wheel for sure). Personally I prefer Olivier's consolekit suggestion, to allow the
+user logged into the physical console to use it. Much less of a management headache in most cases. The restricting it to a group should be
+something an administrator can enforce with msec if they want it (and it could even be added to the default restrictions for the secure
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+&gt;<i> I need some help debuging a problem with automount and DBus in KDE. For
+</I>&gt;<i> example, a USB key is recognized in the log files, but won't mount or show
+</I>&gt;<i> in Dolphin.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All was fine till a few days ago. Gnome works as expected. I suspect it's
+</I>&gt;<i> related to another problem I'm having with DBus. Here are some symptoms:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ]$ dbus-monitor --system
+</I>&gt;<i> Failed to open connection to system bus: The maximum number of active
+</I>&gt;<i> connections for UID 502 has been reached
+</I>
+See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8393">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8393</A>
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+I've given a look, and as I understand the problem, ganglia is built with python support, but half of the python stuff is not packaged. All the gmond python modules (%{libdir}/ganglia/python_modules/*.py*) are not here so when gmond needs them and try to load them, it fails.
+
+Fedora are packaging all the python stuff including the modules in one gmond-python sub-package ( <A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ganglia.git/tree/ganglia.spec?h=f16">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ganglia.git/tree/ganglia.spec?h=f16</A> ).
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+Another solution could be to --disable-python.
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+<PRE>I added some things to try on in the bug report.
+
+Basically, it looks like the place where it is reading moduledir is
+broken. There are
+some configure switches that you can try to change.
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+&gt;<i> Fedora are packaging all the python stuff including the modules in one gmond-python sub-package ( <A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ganglia.git/tree/ganglia.spec?h=f16">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ganglia.git/tree/ganglia.spec?h=f16</A> ).
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+Nice. That seems to have solved it.
+Thank you. :-)=
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+&gt;<i> I added some things to try on in the bug report.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Basically, it looks like the place where it is reading moduledir is
+</I>&gt;<i> broken. There are
+</I>&gt;<i> some configure switches that you can try to change.
+</I>
+Ok. I'll try that, too.
+Maybe I don't have to make a python subpackage in the update, with your suggestion.
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Basically, it looks like the place where it is reading moduledir is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; broken. There are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; some configure switches that you can try to change.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok. I'll try that, too.
+</I>
+... and they dont change anything. The libraries _are_ installed into the correct dir (/usr/lib/ on 32 bit system), even on the current mga2 packages. As far as I can tell, they always where.
+
+And now I can't reproduce it anymore.
+I'm close to giving up on the entire 2/ganglia update. I've removed every ganglia package on the system. even the data files in /var/lib/ganglia/rrds/. Nothing helps. I can't get it to trigger the error again ...
+And I am NOT reinstalling my mga2 VM just because of this.
+
+So now I'm stuck. Again!
+Gaah..
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+&gt;<i> trem &lt;trem&gt; 1.7.2-0.r81625.1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 334034
+</I>&gt;<i> - update to release 81625
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+Please use &quot;update to REVISION 81625&quot; instead...
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Stable release will be out in January.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It works fine. All test suites pass. Please test.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I plan to:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - move it to core/release,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - enable -debuginfo packages in rpmlint
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - switch from -debug to -debuginfo like other distro
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and drop lot of patches
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Does it fully support our rpmlib usrmove checks ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I know you dropped our patch as &quot;merged&quot; but we got
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> atleast one report yesterday on irc about failing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to create a iurt chroot on a cauldron host running
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpm-4.11 from testing...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed I was mistaken, it was not merged (and it won't).
+</I>&gt;<i> Pushing with it
+</I>
+Thomas, can you move *rpm*4.11*, perl-URPM, sytemtap perl-RPM4, perl-RPM2,
+*deltarpm*, *extractor*, *openscap*, rpmstats, sectool*, *zypp*, ruby-rpm
+
+If you prefer, I could submit rpm to core/release and recompile the rest.
+There's no need for special rpm+perl-URPM upload this time :
+- it's ABI compatible,
+- rpmdb remains identical
+
+There've been only a couple defines removal from the API for which I make
+sure everything recompile, so it's possible to just resubmit rpm &amp; the rest.
+
+WDYT?
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+ <B>magnus</B>
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+
+I created a brand new HDD and installed Beta2 from the DVD (64bit)
+Everything went smooth
+I did not install the optional upgrades
+I rebooted the system and did not get the login screen, but was able to login in a shell
+I did a startx, got a flash of the X windows, but it die immediately. I couldn't find anything
+suspicious in the log.
+
+I then started all over and added the optional upgrades.
+Everything went fine this time and I have a shiny system.
+Only one little oddy, it installed the desktop-kernel AND the server-kenrel
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+ <B>Barry Jackson</B>
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+<PRE>On 23/12/12 12:18, magnus wrote:
+&gt;<i> Is there any work on the ARM port?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would prefer a Mageia on my new Raspberry Pi.
+</I>
++1 So would I.
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+<PRE>2012/12/23 Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> On 18 December 2012 19:27, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Stable release will be out in January.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; It works fine. All test suites pass. Please test.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I plan to:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - move it to core/release,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - enable -debuginfo packages in rpmlint
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - switch from -debug to -debuginfo like other distro
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; and drop lot of patches
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I noticed a strange upgrade issue with 4.11 :
+
+installing kmahjongglib-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch.rpm
+plasma-applet-quicklaunch-4.9.95-0.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+kde-l10n-fr-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch.rpm
+kde-l10n-handbooks-fr-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch.rpm
+kdebase4-workspace-4.9.95-0.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+kdebase4-workspace-handbooks-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch.rpm
+ktimetracker-handbook-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch.rpm
+kmail-handbook-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch.rpm from /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+starting installing packages
+opening rpmdb (root=, write=1)
+created transaction for installing on / (remove=0, install=0, upgrade=8)
+trans: scheduling update of kmahjongglib-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch (id=53428,
+file=/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kmahjongglib-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch.rpm)
+trans: scheduling update of plasma-applet-quicklaunch-4.9.95-0.mga3.x86_64
+(id=53544,
+file=/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/plasma-applet-quicklaunch-4.9.95-0.mga3.x86_64.rpm)
+trans: scheduling update of kde-l10n-fr-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch (id=53619,
+file=/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kde-l10n-fr-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch.rpm)
+trans: scheduling update of kde-l10n-handbooks-fr-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch
+(id=53464,
+file=/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kde-l10n-handbooks-fr-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch.rpm)
+trans: scheduling update of kdebase4-workspace-4.9.95-0.mga3.x86_64
+(id=53233,
+file=/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase4-workspace-4.9.95-0.mga3.x86_64.rpm)
+trans: scheduling update of
+kdebase4-workspace-handbooks-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch (id=53402,
+file=/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase4-workspace-handbooks-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch.rpm)
+trans: scheduling update of ktimetracker-handbook-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch
+(id=53392,
+file=/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/ktimetracker-handbook-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch.rpm)
+trans: scheduling update of kmail-handbook-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch (id=53432,
+file=/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kmail-handbook-4.9.95-0.mga3.noarch.rpm)
+Preparing...
+################################################################################################################################################################################
+Installation failed:
+ file /usr/share/apps/ksmserver/ksmserver.notifyrc from install of
+kdebase4-workspace-2:4.9.95-0.mga3.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
+kdebase4-workspace-2:4.9.90-1.mga3.x86_64
+
+Installation failed: file /usr/share/apps/ksmserver/ksmserver.notifyrc
+from install of kdebase4-workspace-2:4.9.95-0.mga3.x86_64 conflicts with
+file from package kdebase4-workspace-2:4.9.90-1.mga3.x86_64
+unlocking urpmi database
+
+with an urpmi --auto-update --debug
+
+kde 4.9.95 was built with previous rpm.
+Since the file came from the same package it's strange that they conflicts.
+
+
+--
+Balcaen John
+Jabber-id: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net</A>
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+&gt;<i> I installed (and tried to) Beta 1 on a vbox
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I created a brand new HDD and installed Beta2 from the DVD (64bit)
+</I>&gt;<i> Everything went smooth
+</I>&gt;<i> I did not install the optional upgrades
+</I>&gt;<i> I rebooted the system and did not get the login screen, but was able to login in a shell
+</I>&gt;<i> I did a startx, got a flash of the X windows, but it die immediately. I couldn't find anything
+</I>&gt;<i> suspicious in the log.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I then started all over and added the optional upgrades.
+</I>&gt;<i> Everything went fine this time and I have a shiny system.
+</I>&gt;<i> Only one little oddy, it installed the desktop-kernel AND the server-kenrel
+</I>
+What did you select during the install?
+
+I just did a kde (using default package group selections) install using the
+64 bit beta 1 dvd, without installing updates, and it worked ok.
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+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+Barry Jackson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">zen25000 at zen.co.uk</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On 23/12/12 12:18, magnus wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is there any work on the ARM port?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I would prefer a Mageia on my new Raspberry Pi.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1 So would I.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
++1
+
+&gt;<i> (but Fedora-remix works well) :)
+</I>
+So does Raspbian. :)
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+ <B>magnus</B>
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+
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 00:12:16 +0000
+</I>&gt;<i> Barry Jackson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">zen25000 at zen.co.uk</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 23/12/12 12:18, magnus wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Is there any work on the ARM port?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I would prefer a Mageia on my new Raspberry Pi.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; +1 So would I.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (but Fedora-remix works well) :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So does Raspbian. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>My Rasbian also, but I have a prob with the display (TV, HDMI, too &quot;small&quot;)
+I miss the MCC :)
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+&gt;<i> I noticed a strange upgrade issue with 4.11 :
+</I>
+(...)
+
+&gt;<i> Installation failed:
+</I>&gt;<i> file /usr/share/apps/ksmserver/ksmserver.notifyrc from install of
+</I>&gt;<i> kdebase4-workspace-2:4.9.95-0.mga3.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
+</I>&gt;<i> kdebase4-workspace-2:4.9.90-1.mga3.x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Installation failed: file /usr/share/apps/ksmserver/ksmserver.notifyrc
+</I>&gt;<i> from install of kdebase4-workspace-2:4.9.95-0.mga3.x86_64 conflicts with
+</I>&gt;<i> file from package kdebase4-workspace-2:4.9.90-1.mga3.x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i> unlocking urpmi database
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> with an urpmi --auto-update --debug
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> kde 4.9.95 was built with previous rpm.
+</I>&gt;<i> Since the file came from the same package it's strange that they conflicts.
+</I>
+Do you still have the old kde package installed?
+If yes, please send me the bug-rpm.tar.xz file resulting from running:
+urpmi --auto-select --bug bug-rpm
+tar cfa bug-rpm{.tar.xz,}
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+ <I>Mon Dec 24 11:49:36 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>g++ -O2 -g -pipe -Wformat -Werror=format-security
+-Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4
+-fPIC -pthread -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0
+-I/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo
+-I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
+-I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include
+-I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb
+-I/usr/include/libpng15 -I/usr/include/libdrm -I/usr/include/harfbuzz
+-I/usr/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0
+-I/usr/lib64/dbus-1.0/include -Wl,--as-needed -Wl,--no-undefined
+-Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--build-id -Wl,--enable-new-dtags -o
+cryptkeeper encfs_wrapper.o ConfigDialog.o ImportStashWizard.o
+CreateStashWizard.o PasswordChangeDialog.o main.o gtkstatusicon.o
+gtktrayicon-x11.o PasswordEntryDialog.o lsof.o -Wl,--export-dynamic
+-pthread -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0
+-lrt -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lcairo
+-lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lgconf-2 -lglib-2.0
+/usr/bin/ld: gtktrayicon-x11.o: undefined reference to symbol
+'XUngrabServer'
+/usr/bin/ld: note: 'XUngrabServer' is defined in DSO /lib64/libX11.so.6
+so try adding it to the linker command line
+/lib64/libX11.so.6: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
+
+I fixed it in the package directly (cryptkeeper). However, shouldn't
+rather gtk+-2.0 directly refers -lX11 instead ?
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillaume at beria</A> cryptkeeper]$ pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0
+-Wl,--export-dynamic -pthread -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0
+-lgio-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lrt -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0
+-lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig
+-lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0
+
+--
+BOFH excuse #132:
+
+SCSI Chain overterminated
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Build of the following packages failed:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Failure details available in <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Reason:
+</I>&gt;<i> @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm: build_failure
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log files generated:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/build.0.20121224110417.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/build.0.20121224110417.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/rpm_qa.0.20121224110417.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/rpm_qa.0.20121224110417.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/install_deps-1.0.20121224110417.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/install_deps-1.0.20121224110417.log</A>
+</I>
+Local build works smoothly.
+But in iurt, it fails on:
+FATAL: no match for /usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/*/loaders.cache
+
+However this file is provided by libgdk_pixbuf2.0_0 which _IS_
+installed in the chroot.
+But's it's a %ghost file to be filled in in %post script.
+
+It's failling in iurt b/c
+/usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/bin/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders: error while
+loading shared libraries: libffi.so.6: cannot open shared object file:
+No such file or directory
+
+And indeed lib{64,}gdk_pixbuf2.0_0 do not require libffi...
+And thus it's not installed in chroots...
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Guillaume Rousse
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> g++ -O2 -g -pipe -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2
+</I>&gt;<i> -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -fPIC -pthread -D_REENTRANT
+</I>&gt;<i> -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0
+</I>&gt;<i> -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
+</I>&gt;<i> -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include
+</I>&gt;<i> -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb
+</I>&gt;<i> -I/usr/include/libpng15 -I/usr/include/libdrm -I/usr/include/harfbuzz
+</I>&gt;<i> -I/usr/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib64/dbus-1.0/include
+</I>&gt;<i> -Wl,--as-needed -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--build-id
+</I>&gt;<i> -Wl,--enable-new-dtags -o cryptkeeper encfs_wrapper.o ConfigDialog.o
+</I>&gt;<i> ImportStashWizard.o CreateStashWizard.o PasswordChangeDialog.o main.o
+</I>&gt;<i> gtkstatusicon.o gtktrayicon-x11.o PasswordEntryDialog.o lsof.o
+</I>&gt;<i> -Wl,--export-dynamic -pthread -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0
+</I>&gt;<i> -lgio-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lrt -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0
+</I>&gt;<i> -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0
+</I>&gt;<i> -lgconf-2 -lglib-2.0
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/ld: gtktrayicon-x11.o: undefined reference to symbol
+</I>&gt;<i> 'XUngrabServer'
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/ld: note: 'XUngrabServer' is defined in DSO /lib64/libX11.so.6 so
+</I>&gt;<i> try adding it to the linker command line
+</I>&gt;<i> /lib64/libX11.so.6: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I fixed it in the package directly (cryptkeeper). However, shouldn't rather
+</I>&gt;<i> gtk+-2.0 directly refers -lX11 instead ?
+</I>
+No it shouldn't, when using gtk you are not supposed to use anything X
+specific directly, else your app will not work with another backend
+than X.
+In this case it seems the app is using X directly (outside of its use
+of Gtk) so it should link to X11 itself.
+
+&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillaume at beria</A> cryptkeeper]$ pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0
+</I>&gt;<i> -Wl,--export-dynamic -pthread -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0
+</I>&gt;<i> -lgio-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lrt -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0
+</I>&gt;<i> -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0
+</I>&gt;<i> -lglib-2.0
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+&gt;<i> And thus it's not installed in chroots...
+</I>
+And thus %post fails its purpose in chroots.
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+&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> libssh2 is a library implementing the SSH2 protocol as defined by Internet
+</I>&gt;<i> Drafts: SECSH-TRANS(22), SECSH-USERAUTH(25), SECSH-CONNECTION(23),
+</I>&gt;<i> SECSH-ARCH(20), SECSH-FILEXFER(06)*, SECSH-DHGEX(04), and SECSH-NUMBERS(10).
+</I>
+That hurts the eyes....
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+&gt;<i> dams &lt;dams&gt; 0.9.10-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 330879
+</I>&gt;<i> - new version 0.9.10
+</I>
+It crashes
+-------------- next part --------------
+$ calibre
+Traceback (most recent call last):
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/gui2/ui.py&quot;, line 162, in load_store_plugins
+ st = self.init_istore(store)
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/gui2/ui.py&quot;, line 173, in init_istore
+ st = store.load_actual_plugin(self)
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/customize/__init__.py&quot;, line 662, in load_actual_plugin
+ self.actual_plugin_object = getattr(importlib.import_module(mod), cls)(gui, self.name)
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py&quot;, line 37, in import_module
+ __import__(name)
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/gui2/store/stores/mobileread/mobileread_plugin.py&quot;, line 19, in &lt;module&gt;
+ from calibre.gui2.store.stores.mobileread.cache_progress_dialog import CacheProgressDialog
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/gui2/store/stores/mobileread/cache_progress_dialog.py&quot;, line 11, in &lt;module&gt;
+ from calibre.gui2.store.stores.mobileread.cache_progress_dialog_ui import Ui_Dialog
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/gui2/store/stores/mobileread/cache_progress_dialog_ui.py&quot;, line 21
+ return _(&quot;Dialog&quot;))
+ ^
+SyntaxError: invalid syntax
+Traceback (most recent call last):
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/gui2/main.py&quot;, line 266, in initialize
+ self.initialize_db()
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/gui2/main.py&quot;, line 247, in initialize_db
+ self.initialize_db_stage2(db, None)
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/gui2/main.py&quot;, line 223, in initialize_db_stage2
+ self.start_gui(db)
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/gui2/main.py&quot;, line 171, in start_gui
+ main = Main(self.opts, gui_debug=self.gui_debug)
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/gui2/ui.py&quot;, line 139, in __init__
+ self.load_store_plugins()
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/gui2/ui.py&quot;, line 162, in load_store_plugins
+ st = self.init_istore(store)
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/gui2/ui.py&quot;, line 173, in init_istore
+ st = store.load_actual_plugin(self)
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/customize/__init__.py&quot;, line 662, in load_actual_plugin
+ self.actual_plugin_object = getattr(importlib.import_module(mod), cls)(gui, self.name)
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/python2.7/importlib/__init__.py&quot;, line 37, in import_module
+ __import__(name)
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/gui2/store/stores/mobileread/mobileread_plugin.py&quot;, line 19, in &lt;module&gt;
+ from calibre.gui2.store.stores.mobileread.cache_progress_dialog import CacheProgressDialog
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/gui2/store/stores/mobileread/cache_progress_dialog.py&quot;, line 11, in &lt;module&gt;
+ from calibre.gui2.store.stores.mobileread.cache_progress_dialog_ui import Ui_Dialog
+ File &quot;/usr/lib64/calibre/calibre/gui2/store/stores/mobileread/cache_progress_dialog_ui.py&quot;, line 21
+ return _(&quot;Dialog&quot;))
+ ^
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+<PRE>Le 25/12/2012 01:56, luigiwalser a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> luigiwalser &lt;luigiwalser&gt; 2.0.19-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 334800
+</I>&gt;<i> - 2.0.19
+</I>&gt;<i> - use systemctl to reload apparmor
+</I>what for ? We dropped apparmor support everywhe else...
+
+
+--
+BOFH excuse #175:
+
+OS swapped to disk
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+ <B>Christiaan Welvaart</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, 24 Dec 2012, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> On 24 December 2012 12:05, Ulri the scheduler bot
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Build of the following packages failed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Failure details available in <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Reason:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm: build_failure
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Log files generated:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/build.0.20121224110417.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/build.0.20121224110417.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/rpm_qa.0.20121224110417.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/rpm_qa.0.20121224110417.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/install_deps-1.0.20121224110417.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/install_deps-1.0.20121224110417.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Local build works smoothly.
+</I>&gt;<i> But in iurt, it fails on:
+</I>&gt;<i> FATAL: no match for /usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/*/loaders.cache
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However this file is provided by libgdk_pixbuf2.0_0 which _IS_
+</I>&gt;<i> installed in the chroot.
+</I>&gt;<i> But's it's a %ghost file to be filled in in %post script.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's failling in iurt b/c
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/bin/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders: error while
+</I>&gt;<i> loading shared libraries: libffi.so.6: cannot open shared object file:
+</I>&gt;<i> No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And indeed lib{64,}gdk_pixbuf2.0_0 do not require libffi...
+</I>&gt;<i> And thus it's not installed in chroots...
+</I>
+Maybe the problem is that ghc provides libffi.so.6()(64bit) so it gets
+selected instead of lib64ffi6.
+
+
+ Christiaan
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+ <B>zezinho</B>
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+<PRE>I could install LiveDVD in both i586 and x86_64 on real recent hardware.
+All went nicely, except a little glitch : after languages/drivers
+unsused removal, the progress bar starts directly at 80%, and does not
+change for all the tar extraction. this on both arches.
+
+So the few bugs to report:
+- progress bar bad
+- /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/javamail-1.4.3-9.mga3.noarch.rpm no signature on
+updates
+- portuguese language with french keyboard and localised in Paris :
+locales-fr were removed, so LC warnings appear in the terminal.
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+On 25/12/2012 15:34, zezinho wrote:
+&gt;<i> I could install LiveDVD in both i586 and x86_64 on real recent
+</I>&gt;<i> hardware. All went nicely, except a little glitch : after
+</I>&gt;<i> languages/drivers unsused removal, the progress bar starts directly
+</I>&gt;<i> at 80%, and does not change for all the tar extraction. this on
+</I>&gt;<i> both arches.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So the few bugs to report: - progress bar bad
+</I>
+the 80% issue is <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7992">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7992</A>
+
+&gt;<i> - /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/javamail-1.4.3-9.mga3.noarch.rpm no
+</I>&gt;<i> signature on updates
+</I>
+That is <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8274">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8274</A>
+
+
+&gt;<i> - portuguese language with french keyboard and localised in Paris
+</I>&gt;<i> : locales-fr were removed, so LC warnings appear in the terminal.
+</I>
+About the last issue: the same was reported here (with English
+language and localised in Baghdad):
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3723#c13">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3723#c13</A>
+
+but that bug is about another issue, so this still needs its own bug
+report.
+
+Do you mind filing one?
+
+Cheers,
+Marja
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>It seems that with new rpm %doc with spaces in filenames can no longer
+be protected with \
+
+For example:
+
+%doc Please\ read\ me.txt Comfortaa\ FONTLOG.txt OFL\ -\ Font\ License.txt
+
+Before:
+
++ cp -pr 'Please read me.txt' 'Comfortaa FONTLOG.txt' 'OFL - Font
+License.txt' /home/pterjan/co/cauldron/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts/BUILDROOT/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts-1.004-1.mga3.x86_64/usr/share/doc/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts
+
+After:
+
++ cp -pr 'Please
+/home/pterjan/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts-1.004-1.mga3.x86_64/usr/share/doc/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts'
+cp: missing destination file operand after 'Please
+/home/pterjan/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts-1.004-1.mga3.x86_64/usr/share/doc/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts'
+Try 'cp --help' for more information.
+
+Using %doc &quot;Please read me.txt&quot; &quot;Comfortaa FONTLOG.txt&quot; &quot;OFL - Font
+License.txt&quot; was not enough
+
++ cp -pr Please read me.txt
+/home/pterjan/co/cauldron/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts/BUILDROOT/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts-1.004-1.mga3.x86_64/usr/share/doc/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts
+cp: cannot stat 'Please': No such file or directory
+cp: cannot stat 'read': No such file or directory
+cp: cannot stat 'me.txt': No such file or directory
+
+This worked:
+
+%doc &quot;Please\ read\ me.txt&quot; &quot;Comfortaa\ FONTLOG.txt&quot; &quot;OFL\ -\ Font\ License.txt&quot;
+
++ /usr/bin/mkdir -p
+/home/pterjan/co/cauldron/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts/BUILDROOT/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts-1.004-1.mga3.x86_64/usr/share/doc/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts
++ cp -pr 'Please read me.txt'
+/home/pterjan/co/cauldron/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts/BUILDROOT/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts-1.004-1.mga3.x86_64/usr/share/doc/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts
++ cp -pr 'Comfortaa FONTLOG.txt'
+/home/pterjan/co/cauldron/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts/BUILDROOT/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts-1.004-1.mga3.x86_64/usr/share/doc/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts
++ cp -pr 'OFL - Font License.txt'
+/home/pterjan/co/cauldron/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts/BUILDROOT/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts-1.004-1.mga3.x86_64/usr/share/doc/aajohan-comfortaa-fonts
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+&gt;<i> It seems that with new rpm %doc with spaces in filenames can no longer
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+
+this should not be about complaints, only some technical questions.
+How is task-obsolete supposed to work as a package, i.e. what is the mechanism
+used to pull it in, and then remove it again? It is required by nothing else,
+so i guess
+this is either pulled by urpmi/perl-urpm/rpmdrake itself.
+Can sombody enlighten me about this?
+
+
+And the next step would be the question for the proper way how to disable
+this mechanism as an enduser. For a valid scenario, here's an example:
+
+Say a user wants to use k9copy, as that's his favorite frontend. Currently
+he can't, even if he removes task-obsolete, it will get reinstalled during
+next update, removing k9copy in thee process, at least he told me so.
+
+Unfortunately i've never seen it in action, so can't give more details here.
+But in above scenario, how can a user selectively disable task-obsolete
+mechanism for this one package without touching task-obsoletes package,
+removing the obsoletes tag and without disabling obsoletes mechanism altogether?
+
+And on a further question: Shouldn't this be only run during distro upgrades,
+but not within the lifecycle of an released distro?
+
+Kind regards (and a merry christmas :) )
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+Florian
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this should not be about complaints, only some technical questions.
+</I>&gt;<i> How is task-obsolete supposed to work as a package, i.e. what is the mechanism
+</I>&gt;<i> used to pull it in, and then remove it again? It is required by nothing else,
+</I>&gt;<i> so i guess
+</I>&gt;<i> this is either pulled by urpmi/perl-urpm/rpmdrake itself.
+</I>&gt;<i> Can sombody enlighten me about this?
+</I>AFAIK task-obsolete is pulled in by rpmsrate.
+&gt;<i> And the next step would be the question for the proper way how to disable
+</I>&gt;<i> this mechanism as an enduser.
+</I>As root, run this command:
+
+echo task-obsolete &gt;&gt; /etc/urpmi/skip.list
+
+This will add task-obsolete into the skip list and you can use obsoleted software.
+
+--
+Sander
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+<PRE>Le 25/12/2012 20:01, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 25.12.2012 20:41, Florian Hubold kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this should not be about complaints, only some technical questions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How is task-obsolete supposed to work as a package, i.e. what is the mechanism
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> used to pull it in, and then remove it again? It is required by nothing else,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so i guess
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this is either pulled by urpmi/perl-urpm/rpmdrake itself.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can sombody enlighten me about this?
+</I>&gt;<i> AFAIK task-obsolete is pulled in by rpmsrate.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And the next step would be the question for the proper way how to disable
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this mechanism as an enduser.
+</I>&gt;<i> As root, run this command:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> echo task-obsolete &gt;&gt; /etc/urpmi/skip.list
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This will add task-obsolete into the skip list and you can use obsoleted software.
+</I>even easier:
+rpm -e task-obsolete
+
+--
+BOFH excuse #395:
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+Redundant ACLs.
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+ <B>Charles A Edwards</B>
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+Guillaume Rousse wrote:
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+&gt;<i> &gt; As root, run this command:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; echo task-obsolete &gt;&gt; /etc/urpmi/skip.list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This will add task-obsolete into the skip list and you can use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; obsoleted software.
+</I>&gt;<i> even easier:
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm -e task-obsolete
+</I>
+Needed, but if you do not add it to the skip.list it will be
+re-installed the next time you update.
+
+
+ Charles
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+<PRE>Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 25/12/2012 01:56, luigiwalser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> luigiwalser &lt;luigiwalser&gt; 2.0.19-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 334800
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - 2.0.19
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - use systemctl to reload apparmor
+</I>&gt;<i> what for ? We dropped apparmor support everywhe else...
+</I>
+Well that's a good question, and I was wondering as I was doing it, &quot;is this really needed?&quot; In fact, I almost said exactly that in the commit
+message :o)
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Christiaan Welvaart
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cjw at daneel.dyndns.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 24 December 2012 12:05, Ulri the scheduler bot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Build of the following packages failed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Failure details available in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Reason:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm: build_failure
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Log files generated:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/build.0.20121224110417.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/build.0.20121224110417.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/rpm_qa.0.20121224110417.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/rpm_qa.0.20121224110417.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/install_deps-1.0.20121224110417.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20121224110309.tv.valstar.3450/log/drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3/install_deps-1.0.20121224110417.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Local build works smoothly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But in iurt, it fails on:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> FATAL: no match for /usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/*/loaders.cache
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> However this file is provided by libgdk_pixbuf2.0_0 which _IS_
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed in the chroot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But's it's a %ghost file to be filled in in %post script.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's failling in iurt b/c
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/lib64/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/bin/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders: error while
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> loading shared libraries: libffi.so.6: cannot open shared object file:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And indeed lib{64,}gdk_pixbuf2.0_0 do not require libffi...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And thus it's not installed in chroots...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe the problem is that ghc provides libffi.so.6()(64bit) so it gets
+</I>&gt;<i> selected instead of lib64ffi6.
+</I>
+I fixed ghc package by making it use system libffi (patches from
+fedora) as this was breaking other packages
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>It seems you can no longer use a variable not coming from a tag as a
+parameter of %setup
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+The following spec leads to error: line 88: Bad %setup option -n:
+missing argument
+
+%define pre rc5
+%define rel 5
+
+%if %pre
+%define release %mkrel 0.%{pre}.%{rel}
+%define distname %{name}-%{version}-%{pre}.tar.bz2
+%define dirname %{name}-%{version}~%{pre}
+%else
+%define release %mkrel %{rel}
+%define distname %{name}-%{version}.tar.bz2
+%define dirname %{name}-%{version}
+%endif
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+[...]
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+%setup -q -n %{dirname}
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+So far 8 packages are affected
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+ <B>Robert Fox</B>
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+<PRE>[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mainfox</A> rfox]# urpmq ssh
+No package named ssh
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mainfox</A> rfox]# urpmq sshd
+No package named sshd
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mainfox</A> rfox]# urpmq kernel
+No package named kernel
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mainfox</A> rfox]# urpmq kde
+No package named kde
+
+Doesn't seem to work anymore . . .
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+Merry XMas -
+R.Fox
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+ <B>Felix Miata</B>
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+<PRE>This is not a new problem, but I've never seen it mentioned. Typically I test
+install to real partitions 4800MiB in size. This limited space is adequate
+for what I do with a test installation, but requires I carefully choose what
+gets installed or not. Devel, &quot;server&quot;, multimedia, games, office apps and
+Java I always exclude for space reasons. I don't use them often enough to be
+able to recognize if anything was wrong with them. Even though I select
+custom instead of KDE or Gnome, and on next screen deselect everything that
+won't cause urpmi not to install, several things are preselected that make no
+sense for a minimal install, such as every (4 total?) X DE. When I try to
+deselect any of several of these preselections, it acts like an initial
+selection of a large task instead of a deselection. It takes a second try to
+actually deselect. In several cases, the attempt to deselect results in a
+select that requires more space than is &quot;available&quot;. Before I can deselect in
+those cases, I must find smaller selections to deselect and free up space
+before it will let me select what I'm actually trying to deselect. Then I
+must go back to those indirectly forced deselections to reselect them. When
+done, I typically find about 60% or so of the 4800MiB actually gets used by
+the time I've configured no-suggests and urpmi'd what I needed but couldn't
+select during installation without pulling in the space wasters. Ultimate
+goal is usually no frills KDE, with none of file manager, IM, PIM/Kmail or
+desktop search. I do 99.97% of my email POP in SeaMonkey, but not in test
+installations. All my searching and most text file editing is done using MC.
+
+NAICT, it's impossible to install to include urpmi and exclude 100% of X and
+its deps.
+--
+&quot;The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
+words are persuasive.&quot; Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
+
+ Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
+
+Felix Miata *** <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</A>
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+&gt;<i> This is not a new problem, but I've never seen it mentioned. Typically
+</I>&gt;<i> I test install to real partitions 4800MiB in size. This limited space
+</I>&gt;<i> is adequate for what I do with a test installation, but requires I
+</I>&gt;<i> carefully choose what gets installed or not. Devel, &quot;server&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> multimedia, games, office apps and Java I always exclude for space
+</I>&gt;<i> reasons. I don't use them often enough to be able to recognize if
+</I>&gt;<i> anything was wrong with them. Even though I select custom instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> KDE or Gnome, and on next screen deselect everything that won't cause
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi not to install, several things are preselected that make no
+</I>&gt;<i> sense for a minimal install, such as every (4 total?) X DE. When I try
+</I>&gt;<i> to deselect any of several of these preselections, it acts like an
+</I>&gt;<i> initial selection of a large task instead of a deselection. It takes a
+</I>&gt;<i> second try to actually deselect. In several cases, the attempt to
+</I>&gt;<i> deselect results in a select that requires more space than is
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;available&quot;. Before I can deselect in those cases, I must find smaller
+</I>&gt;<i> selections to deselect and free up space before it will let me select
+</I>&gt;<i> what I'm actually trying to deselect. Then I must go back to those
+</I>&gt;<i> indirectly forced deselections to reselect them. When done, I
+</I>&gt;<i> typically find about 60% or so of the 4800MiB actually gets used by
+</I>&gt;<i> the time I've configured no-suggests and urpmi'd what I needed but
+</I>&gt;<i> couldn't select during installation without pulling in the space
+</I>&gt;<i> wasters. Ultimate goal is usually no frills KDE, with none of file
+</I>&gt;<i> manager, IM, PIM/Kmail or desktop search. I do 99.97% of my email POP
+</I>&gt;<i> in SeaMonkey, but not in test installations. All my searching and most
+</I>&gt;<i> text file editing is done using MC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> NAICT, it's impossible to install to include urpmi and exclude 100% of
+</I>&gt;<i> X and its deps.
+</I>
+Is that cauldron ? because there was some improvement since mga2
+also post your /root/drakx/report.bug
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+&gt;<i> Felix Miata composed:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> This is not a new problem, but I've never seen it mentioned. Typically
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I test install to real partitions 4800MiB in size. This limited space
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is adequate for what I do with a test installation, but requires I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> carefully choose what gets installed or not. Devel, &quot;server&quot;,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> multimedia, games, office apps and Java I always exclude for space
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reasons. I don't use them often enough to be able to recognize if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> anything was wrong with them. Even though I select custom instead of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> KDE or Gnome, and on next screen deselect everything that won't cause
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> urpmi not to install, several things are preselected that make no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sense for a minimal install, such as every (4 total?) X DE. When I try
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to deselect any of several of these preselections, it acts like an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> initial selection of a large task instead of a deselection. It takes a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> second try to actually deselect. In several cases, the attempt to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> deselect results in a select that requires more space than is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;available&quot;. Before I can deselect in those cases, I must find smaller
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> selections to deselect and free up space before it will let me select
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> what I'm actually trying to deselect. Then I must go back to those
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> indirectly forced deselections to reselect them. When done, I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> typically find about 60% or so of the 4800MiB actually gets used by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the time I've configured no-suggests and urpmi'd what I needed but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> couldn't select during installation without pulling in the space
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wasters. Ultimate goal is usually no frills KDE, with none of file
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> manager, IM, PIM/Kmail or desktop search. I do 99.97% of my email POP
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in SeaMonkey, but not in test installations. All my searching and most
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> text file editing is done using MC.
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> NAICT, it's impossible to install to include urpmi and exclude 100% of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> X and its deps.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Is that cauldron ?
+</I>
+00000001b
+
+There wouldn't be any point if M2, would there? :-)
+
+&gt;<i> because there was some improvement since mga2
+</I>
+I haven't noticed any.
+
+&gt;<i> also post your /root/drakx/report.bug
+</I>
+No file there by that exact name, but:
+
+ <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/Drakx/reportbugC-kt880-121225.xz">http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/Drakx/reportbugC-kt880-121225.xz</A>
+--
+&quot;The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
+words are persuasive.&quot; Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
+
+ Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
+
+Felix Miata *** <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</A>
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+&gt;<i> It seems you can no longer use a variable not coming from a tag as a
+</I>&gt;<i> parameter of %setup
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The following spec leads to error: line 88: Bad %setup option -n:
+</I>&gt;<i> missing argument
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %define pre rc5
+</I>&gt;<i> %define rel 5
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %if %pre
+</I>&gt;<i> %define release %mkrel 0.%{pre}.%{rel}
+</I>&gt;<i> %define distname %{name}-%{version}-%{pre}.tar.bz2
+</I>&gt;<i> %define dirname %{name}-%{version}~%{pre}
+</I>&gt;<i> %else
+</I>&gt;<i> %define release %mkrel %{rel}
+</I>&gt;<i> %define distname %{name}-%{version}.tar.bz2
+</I>&gt;<i> %define dirname %{name}-%{version}
+</I>&gt;<i> %endif
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %setup -q -n %{dirname}
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So far 8 packages are affected
+</I>
+And the really annoying ones are: %setup -q -n %{oname}-%{version}
+I would hate to have to expand the variable
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+&gt;<i> And the really annoying ones are: %setup -q -n %{oname}-%{version}
+</I>&gt;<i> I would hate to have to expand the variable
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+Oops this one is still working (I don't know why), the package had
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+<PRE>26.12.2012 16:33, Robert Fox kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mainfox</A> rfox]# urpmq ssh
+</I>&gt;<i> No package named ssh
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mainfox</A> rfox]# urpmq sshd
+</I>&gt;<i> No package named sshd
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mainfox</A> rfox]# urpmq kernel
+</I>&gt;<i> No package named kernel
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mainfox</A> rfox]# urpmq kde
+</I>&gt;<i> No package named kde
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doesn't seem to work anymore . . .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Merry XMas -
+</I>&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I think you have to use urpmq -y ssh
+Or --fuzzy if you like the long version.
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+&gt;<i> 26.12.2012 16:33, Robert Fox kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mainfox</A> rfox]# urpmq ssh
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No package named ssh
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mainfox</A> rfox]# urpmq sshd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No package named sshd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mainfox</A> rfox]# urpmq kernel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No package named kernel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mainfox</A> rfox]# urpmq kde
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No package named kde
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Doesn't seem to work anymore . . .
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Merry XMas -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think you have to use urpmq -y ssh
+</I>&gt;<i> Or --fuzzy if you like the long version.
+</I>
+Yes it seems the default has changed, I noticed it recently...
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+Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> It seems you can no longer use a variable not coming from a tag as a
+</I>&gt;<i> parameter of %setup
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The following spec leads to error: line 88: Bad %setup option -n:
+</I>&gt;<i> missing argument
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %define pre rc5
+</I>&gt;<i> %define rel 5
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %if %pre
+</I>&gt;<i> %define release %mkrel 0.%{pre}.%{rel}
+</I>&gt;<i> %define distname %{name}-%{version}-%{pre}.tar.bz2
+</I>&gt;<i> %define dirname %{name}-%{version}~%{pre}
+</I>&gt;<i> %else
+</I>&gt;<i> %define release %mkrel %{rel}
+</I>&gt;<i> %define distname %{name}-%{version}.tar.bz2
+</I>&gt;<i> %define dirname %{name}-%{version}
+</I>&gt;<i> %endif
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %setup -q -n %{dirname}
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So far 8 packages are affected
+</I>
+Similar approach works at least for openttd.
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+However macro isn't called %dirname in openttd.spec. What if you
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+<PRE>On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Jani V&#228;limaa &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:13:44 +0000
+</I>&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It seems you can no longer use a variable not coming from a tag as a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> parameter of %setup
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The following spec leads to error: line 88: Bad %setup option -n:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> missing argument
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %define pre rc5
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %define rel 5
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %if %pre
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %define release %mkrel 0.%{pre}.%{rel}
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %define distname %{name}-%{version}-%{pre}.tar.bz2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %define dirname %{name}-%{version}~%{pre}
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %else
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %define release %mkrel %{rel}
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %define distname %{name}-%{version}.tar.bz2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %define dirname %{name}-%{version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %endif
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %setup -q -n %{dirname}
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So far 8 packages are affected
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Similar approach works at least for openttd.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However macro isn't called %dirname in openttd.spec. What if you
+</I>&gt;<i> rename %dirname to something else?
+</I>
+Ah that would make sense :-)
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+<PRE>On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Jani V&#228;limaa &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:13:44 +0000
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It seems you can no longer use a variable not coming from a tag as a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> parameter of %setup
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The following spec leads to error: line 88: Bad %setup option -n:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> missing argument
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %define pre rc5
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %define rel 5
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %if %pre
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %define release %mkrel 0.%{pre}.%{rel}
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %define distname %{name}-%{version}-%{pre}.tar.bz2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %define dirname %{name}-%{version}~%{pre}
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %else
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %define release %mkrel %{rel}
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %define distname %{name}-%{version}.tar.bz2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %define dirname %{name}-%{version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %endif
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %setup -q -n %{dirname}
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So far 8 packages are affected
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Similar approach works at least for openttd.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> However macro isn't called %dirname in openttd.spec. What if you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rename %dirname to something else?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah that would make sense :-)
+</I>
+It works, thanks
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+to configure a repo from the content of
+<A HREF="http://silk.apana.org.au/rpm-stable-dev/fcl.repo">http://silk.apana.org.au/rpm-stable-dev/fcl.repo</A> :
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+
+I'm having no luck on fresh Cauldron installation. There seems to be no man
+page for urpmi or urpmi.addmedia, and urpmi.addmedia --help doesn't seem to
+tell me enough about what I need to do. This is what I tried:
+
+urpmi.addmedia FCL --distrib --interactive --probe-rpms --no-md5sum
+<A HREF="http://silk.apana.org.au/rpm">http://silk.apana.org.au/rpm</A>
+
+but I get no media.cfg file found and so stuck wondering what to do. :-(
+--
+&quot;The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
+words are persuasive.&quot; Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
+
+ Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
+
+Felix Miata *** <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</A>
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+Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:13:44 +0000
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; It seems you can no longer use a variable not coming from a tag
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; as a parameter of %setup
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; The following spec leads to error: line 88: Bad %setup option -n:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; missing argument
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %define pre rc5
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %define rel 5
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %if %pre
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %define release %mkrel 0.%{pre}.%{rel}
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %define distname %{name}-%{version}-%{pre}.tar.bz2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %define dirname %{name}-%{version}~%{pre}
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %else
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %define release %mkrel %{rel}
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %define distname %{name}-%{version}.tar.bz2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %define dirname %{name}-%{version}
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %endif
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %setup -q -n %{dirname}
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; So far 8 packages are affected
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Similar approach works at least for openttd.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; However macro isn't called %dirname in openttd.spec. What if you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; rename %dirname to something else?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ah that would make sense :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It works, thanks
+</I>
+I guess it must be something else than %dir too. :)
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+<PRE>On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Jani V&#228;limaa &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:50:52 +0000
+</I>&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:13:44 +0000
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; It seems you can no longer use a variable not coming from a tag
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; as a parameter of %setup
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; The following spec leads to error: line 88: Bad %setup option -n:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; missing argument
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %define pre rc5
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %define rel 5
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %if %pre
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %define release %mkrel 0.%{pre}.%{rel}
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %define distname %{name}-%{version}-%{pre}.tar.bz2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %define dirname %{name}-%{version}~%{pre}
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %else
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %define release %mkrel %{rel}
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %define distname %{name}-%{version}.tar.bz2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %define dirname %{name}-%{version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %endif
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; %setup -q -n %{dirname}
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; So far 8 packages are affected
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Similar approach works at least for openttd.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; However macro isn't called %dirname in openttd.spec. What if you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; rename %dirname to something else?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Ah that would make sense :-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It works, thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess it must be something else than %dir too. :)
+</I>
+Well dir worked there but failed later when generating package :)
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+&gt;&gt;<i> I think you have to use urpmq -y ssh
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Or --fuzzy if you like the long version.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes it seems the default has changed, I noticed it recently...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+So do I, I was also wondering why?
+
+In particular, any usage of
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+No package named blabla
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+Cheers,
+Chris.
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+<PRE>Le 25/12/2012 16:24, Marja van Waes a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;&gt;<i> - portuguese language with french keyboard and localised in Paris
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> : locales-fr were removed, so LC warnings appear in the terminal.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> About the last issue: the same was reported here (with English
+</I>&gt;<i> language and localised in Baghdad):
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3723#c13">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3723#c13</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but that bug is about another issue, so this still needs its own bug
+</I>&gt;<i> report.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you mind filing one?
+</I>
+thanks for the review, but the bug 3723 is the same issue AFAIK.
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cjw at daneel.dyndns.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe the problem is that ghc provides libffi.so.6()(64bit) so it gets
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> selected instead of lib64ffi6.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I fixed ghc package by making it use system libffi (patches from
+</I>&gt;<i> fedora) as this was breaking other packages
+</I>
+Sorry about that, the ghc package got submitted a bit too soon and
+without much testing ...
+(and I'm not so sure that this version is the appropriate one to use)
+
+Any help with Haskell is welcome by the way :-)
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+Cheers,
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think you have to use urpmq -y ssh
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Or --fuzzy if you like the long version.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes it seems the default has changed, I noticed it recently...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So do I, I was also wondering why?
+</I>
+people were complaining there was no exact mode in urpmq.
+Also not performing substring matching is a huge speedup for
+everything (urpmi/urpmq)
+
+* Tue Dec 04 2012 tv &lt;tv&gt; 7.13-1.mga3
++ Revision: 326599
+- library speedups when looking up packages:
+ o do not attempt fuzzy matching if not requested
+- urpmq:
+ o do not allow substring matching with --fuzzy (mga#2953)
+
+&gt;<i> In particular, any usage of
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmq blabla
+</I>&gt;<i> has now a high probability to return
+</I>&gt;<i> No package named blabla
+</I></PRE>
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+&gt;<i> On 26 December 2012 22:53, Eatdirt &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dirteat at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I think you have to use urpmq -y ssh
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Or --fuzzy if you like the long version.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Yes it seems the default has changed, I noticed it recently...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So do I, I was also wondering why?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> people were complaining there was no exact mode in urpmq.
+</I>&gt;<i> Also not performing substring matching is a huge speedup for
+</I>&gt;<i> everything (urpmi/urpmq)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * Tue Dec 04 2012 tv &lt;tv&gt; 7.13-1.mga3
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 326599
+</I>&gt;<i> - library speedups when looking up packages:
+</I>&gt;<i> o do not attempt fuzzy matching if not requested
+</I>&gt;<i> - urpmq:
+</I>&gt;<i> o do not allow substring matching with --fuzzy (mga#2953)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In particular, any usage of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; urpmq blabla
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; has now a high probability to return
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; No package named blabla
+</I>
+i think this is fine, escpecially considering there's scripts that could use
+this, so exact match is much better as default.
+
+there's nothing worse than mistyping and a different package is installed
+because it matched...
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+Hi,
+
+I'm thinking of dropping the nonfree prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+(and thereby their &quot;support&quot; from live images)
+
+This means also dropping them from ldetect-lst, and if we keep/add
+some there, it must be for specific reason and on sub-vendor/device
+level to not force the wl stuff on everyone...
+
+The rationale is:
+1. we promote open source, not closed...
+
+2. latest broadcom-wl driver is not maintained upstream,
+ it's over 1 year old and needs more patches every time
+ the kernel interfcace changes (last working kernel 3.1,
+ then we have started patching it)
+
+3. the broadcom drivers in upstream kernel.org kernels are
+ improving and also adding support for hw that broadcom-wl
+ is not really supporting even if pretends to do so...
+
+4. we are getting more bugreports about broadcom-wl making
+ more problems than it fixes...
+
+5. for broadcom-wl to really work, it needs to blacklist
+ the in-kernel drivers that we ship, something we do in
+ the dkms-broadcom-wl package but for obvious reasons
+ cant do with the prebuilt modules on the live medias
+
+6. dkms-broadcom-wl will still be available on mirrors and
+ on traditional install dvds in nonfree section
+ (new feature for mga3)
+
+
+
+Then we maybe need to add some way for dkms-broadcom-wl
+users to instruct the drakx tools that they prefer/need the
+nonfree driver...
+
+And we stick all this info in mga3 errata.
+
+To do this I suggest we should do this asap, and keep it for
+atleast mga3-beta2 isos, so we can check how it works out...
+
+Comments ?
+
+--
+Thomas
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 22:24:56 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As root, run this command:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> echo task-obsolete &gt;&gt; /etc/urpmi/skip.list
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This will add task-obsolete into the skip list and you can use
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> obsoleted software.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> even easier:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpm -e task-obsolete
+</I>&gt;<i> Needed, but if you do not add it to the skip.list it will be
+</I>&gt;<i> re-installed the next time you update.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Charles
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>OK, so there is currently only the option to have all packages
+obsoleted or to have the mechanism completely disabled?
+No proper way to only have selected obsoletes?
+
+@Thierry, do you have any other clever solution here? Or some
+workaround or something similar?
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+&gt;<i> i think this is fine, escpecially considering there's scripts that could use
+</I>&gt;<i> this, so exact match is much better as default.
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+</I>&gt;<i> there's nothing worse than mistyping and a different package is installed
+</I>&gt;<i> because it matched...
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm thinking of dropping the nonfree prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</I>&gt;<i> (and thereby their &quot;support&quot; from live images)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This means also dropping them from ldetect-lst, and if we keep/add
+</I>&gt;<i> some there, it must be for specific reason and on sub-vendor/device
+</I>&gt;<i> level to not force the wl stuff on everyone...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The rationale is:
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> 6. dkms-broadcom-wl will still be available on mirrors and
+</I>&gt;<i> on traditional install dvds in nonfree section
+</I>&gt;<i> (new feature for mga3)
+</I>As far as 6 is actual, I am OK with it.
+
+My hardware is working only with the propriatary drivers and dkms
+packages are sufficient.
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+ <B>Glen Ogilvie</B>
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+The wiki, recommends starting openssh from within a chroot, on the
+following two pages:
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+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packagers_chroot">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packagers_chroot</A>
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Chroot">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Chroot</A>
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+This does not work, with a current install from cauldron, as
+/etc/init.d/sshd does not get created.
+
+It seems like the systemd way of starting would be:
+systemctl start openssh.service
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+But, then produces an error:
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> /]# systemctl start openssh.service
+Running in chroot, ignoring request.
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+So, Any thoughts on what is the recommended way, and I'll be happy to
+update the wiki to reflect this.
+
+Regards
+Glen Ogilvie
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+&gt;<i> According to <A HREF="http://silk.apana.org.au/fc2development.html">http://silk.apana.org.au/fc2development.html</A> I ought to be
+</I>&gt;<i> able to configure a repo from the content of
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://silk.apana.org.au/rpm-stable-dev/fcl.repo">http://silk.apana.org.au/rpm-stable-dev/fcl.repo</A> :
+</I>You should reread it more carefully, they are assuming everyone uses yum
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm thinking of dropping the nonfree prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</I>&gt;<i> (and thereby their &quot;support&quot; from live images)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This means also dropping them from ldetect-lst, and if we keep/add
+</I>&gt;<i> some there, it must be for specific reason and on sub-vendor/device
+</I>&gt;<i> level to not force the wl stuff on everyone...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To do this I suggest we should do this asap, and keep it for
+</I>&gt;<i> atleast mga3-beta2 isos, so we can check how it works out...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Comments ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I'm OK with that as currently i can't use wifi on LiveDVDs. wl driver is causing more mess
+than it's helping to resolve.
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+Sander
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 27 december 2012 14:57:23 schreef Glen Ogilvie:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The wiki, recommends starting openssh from within a chroot, on the
+</I>&gt;<i> following two pages:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packagers_chroot">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packagers_chroot</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Chroot">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Chroot</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This does not work, with a current install from cauldron, as
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/init.d/sshd does not get created.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems like the systemd way of starting would be:
+</I>&gt;<i> systemctl start openssh.service
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But, then produces an error:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> /]# systemctl start openssh.service
+</I>&gt;<i> Running in chroot, ignoring request.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, Any thoughts on what is the recommended way, and I'll be happy to
+</I>&gt;<i> update the wiki to reflect this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i> Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+i think you'd have to start systemctl inside the chroot
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+ <B>Felix Miata</B>
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+<PRE>On 2012-12-27 09:02 (GMT+0100) Guillaume Rousse composed:
+
+&gt;<i> Felix Miata composed:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> According to <A HREF="http://silk.apana.org.au/fc2development.html">http://silk.apana.org.au/fc2development.html</A> I ought to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> able to configure a repo from the content of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://silk.apana.org.au/rpm-stable-dev/fcl.repo">http://silk.apana.org.au/rpm-stable-dev/fcl.repo</A> :
+</I>
+&gt;<i> You should reread it more carefully, they are assuming everyone uses yum
+</I>&gt;<i> metadata...
+</I>&gt;<i> Morevoer, a binary package build on fedora 1O isn't likely
+</I>&gt;<i> to install properly on mageia.
+</I>
+Mandriva 2009 is explicitly listed. libstdc++5-3.3.6-4mdv2009.0.i586.rpm
+installs on Cauldron (and AFAICT compat with or substitute for it still isn't
+available from Mageia repos). So I would expect since that works, so would an
+FCL rpm expressly built for the same system, even if not conveniently via a
+configured repo.
+
+It's author has been around Linux a long time. I doubt he would claim what he
+claims about running on/built for old Fedora &amp; Mandriva releases if it
+wouldn't install on newer versions. His goal is for it to just work using a
+minimum of deps that all distros require or at least provide anyway. It
+installed for me easily using the supplied repo file at least on openSUSE
+11.3, 11.4, 12.1, 12.2 &amp; release next. I find it hard to believe it wouldn't
+install as well on Mageia 1, 2 or next, and I would rather have it from a
+configured repo instead of having to fetch it manually for each new devel build.
+
+&gt;<i> You'd better get the source package and rebuild it.
+</I>
+I looked around that site but didn't notice source even being available. I
+guess to find out if it even is requires access via a repo mechanism.
+
+Not counting Gentoo, last I built anything from source was more than 5 years
+ago, and I don't expect it will happen again in my lifetime. I don't build. I
+test software others build.
+--
+&quot;The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
+words are persuasive.&quot; Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
+
+ Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
+
+Felix Miata *** <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</A>
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 27 december 2012 00:02:28 schreef Florian Hubold:
+&gt;<i> Am 25.12.2012 22:41, schrieb Charles A Edwards:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 22:24:56 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; As root, run this command:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; echo task-obsolete &gt;&gt; /etc/urpmi/skip.list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; This will add task-obsolete into the skip list and you can use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; obsoleted software.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; even easier:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; rpm -e task-obsolete
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Needed, but if you do not add it to the skip.list it will be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; re-installed the next time you update.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Charles
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, so there is currently only the option to have all packages
+</I>&gt;<i> obsoleted or to have the mechanism completely disabled?
+</I>&gt;<i> No proper way to only have selected obsoletes?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> @Thierry, do you have any other clever solution here? Or some
+</I>&gt;<i> workaround or something similar?
+</I>
+i just don't think there's any reasonable use case for this. (if you're not a
+developer), meaning you can maintain it yourself.
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+rpmlib(TildeInVersions) &lt;= 4.10.0-1 is needed by
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+<PRE>On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Glen Ogilvie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nelg at linuxsolutions.co.nz</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The wiki, recommends starting openssh from within a chroot, on the following
+</I>&gt;<i> two pages:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packagers_chroot">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packagers_chroot</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Chroot">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Chroot</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This does not work, with a current install from cauldron, as
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/init.d/sshd does not get created.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems like the systemd way of starting would be:
+</I>&gt;<i> systemctl start openssh.service
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But, then produces an error:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> /]# systemctl start openssh.service
+</I>&gt;<i> Running in chroot, ignoring request.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, Any thoughts on what is the recommended way, and I'll be happy to
+</I>&gt;<i> update the wiki to reflect this.
+</I>
+Last time I tried, I gave up after various attempts and now went back
+to the basics: running &quot;sshd&quot; and killing it to stop it.
+Maybe I'll fetch some old initscript.
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+<PRE>On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, Pascal Terjan wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Does anyone know what this means?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> rpmlib(TildeInVersions) &lt;= 4.10.0-1 is needed by
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64ftgl-devel-2.1.3-0.rc5.8.mga3.x86_64
+</I>
+Recent versions of rpm support tilde in version numbers.
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+And it seems lib64ftgl-devel-2.1.3-0.rc5.8.mga3.x86_64 use a ~ in a
+provide :
+pkgconfig(ftgl) = 2.1.3~rc5
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+ <B>Guillaume Rousse</B>
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+<PRE>Le 27/12/2012 11:29, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> It seems like the systemd way of starting would be:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> systemctl start openssh.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But, then produces an error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> /]# systemctl start openssh.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Running in chroot, ignoring request.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, Any thoughts on what is the recommended way, and I'll be happy to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> update the wiki to reflect this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Last time I tried, I gave up after various attempts and now went back
+</I>&gt;<i> to the basics: running &quot;sshd&quot; and killing it to stop it.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe I'll fetch some old initscript.
+</I>I guess using a specific unit file, using builtin systemd chroot
+support, should help. See
+<A HREF="http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/changing-roots">http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/changing-roots</A> for details.
+
+--
+BOFH excuse #346:
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+Your/our computer(s) had suffered a memory leak, and we are waiting for
+them to be topped up.
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Does anyone know what this means?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpmlib(TildeInVersions) &lt;= 4.10.0-1 is needed by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lib64ftgl-devel-2.1.3-0.rc5.8.mga3.x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Recent versions of rpm support tilde in version numbers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And it seems lib64ftgl-devel-2.1.3-0.rc5.8.mga3.x86_64 use a ~ in a
+</I>&gt;<i> provide :
+</I>&gt;<i> pkgconfig(ftgl) = 2.1.3~rc5
+</I>
+Well this provide is not new :)
+
+&gt;<i> So it requires a version of rpm that support tilde in version numbers.
+</I>
+It seems to require an old version(&lt;= 4.10.0-1), which is strange
+
+So the problem would be that this rpm is not installable with urpmi
+--root if rpm outside of the chroot is too old (rpm 4.9.1.3 from
+mageia 2).
+I guess I will need to fix iurt to support --urpmi-root when rebuilding a media
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 27/12/2012 11:29, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It seems like the systemd way of starting would be:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> systemctl start openssh.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But, then produces an error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> /]# systemctl start openssh.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Running in chroot, ignoring request.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So, Any thoughts on what is the recommended way, and I'll be happy to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> update the wiki to reflect this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Last time I tried, I gave up after various attempts and now went back
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to the basics: running &quot;sshd&quot; and killing it to stop it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe I'll fetch some old initscript.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess using a specific unit file, using builtin systemd chroot support,
+</I>&gt;<i> should help. See <A HREF="http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/changing-roots">http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/changing-roots</A> for
+</I>&gt;<i> details.
+</I>
+Yes having an unit outside of the chroot with
+RootDirectoryStartOnly=yes would probably help (I had tried the &quot;full
+system&quot; chroot and couldn't get it to work and gave up after an hour)
+but this is annoying to not be able to start a daemon from inside the
+chroot which is what I usually want to do.
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+<PRE>Pascal Terjan skrev 27.12.2012 13:12:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:38 AM, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Does anyone know what this means?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpmlib(TildeInVersions) &lt;= 4.10.0-1 is needed by
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64ftgl-devel-2.1.3-0.rc5.8.mga3.x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Recent versions of rpm support tilde in version numbers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And it seems lib64ftgl-devel-2.1.3-0.rc5.8.mga3.x86_64 use a ~ in a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> provide :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> pkgconfig(ftgl) = 2.1.3~rc5
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well this provide is not new :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So it requires a version of rpm that support tilde in version numbers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems to require an old version(&lt;= 4.10.0-1), which is strange
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So the problem would be that this rpm is not installable with urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> --root if rpm outside of the chroot is too old (rpm 4.9.1.3 from
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia 2).
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess I will need to fix iurt to support --urpmi-root when rebuilding a media
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Or fix the package to not use a tilde in provides :)
+
+--
+Thomas
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+&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan skrev 27.12.2012 13:12:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:38 AM, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Does anyone know what this means?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpmlib(TildeInVersions) &lt;= 4.10.0-1 is needed by
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64ftgl-devel-2.1.3-0.rc5.8.mga3.x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Recent versions of rpm support tilde in version numbers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And it seems lib64ftgl-devel-2.1.3-0.rc5.8.mga3.x86_64 use a ~ in a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> provide :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> pkgconfig(ftgl) = 2.1.3~rc5
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well this provide is not new :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So it requires a version of rpm that support tilde in version numbers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It seems to require an old version(&lt;= 4.10.0-1), which is strange
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So the problem would be that this rpm is not installable with urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --root if rpm outside of the chroot is too old (rpm 4.9.1.3 from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia 2).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I guess I will need to fix iurt to support --urpmi-root when rebuilding a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> media
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or fix the package to not use a tilde in provides :)
+</I>
+This is an automatic provides from the version in pkg-config file
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+<PRE>Kamil Rytarowski skrev 27.12.2012 03:33:
+&gt;<i> On 26.12.2012 23:54, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm thinking of dropping the nonfree prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (and thereby their &quot;support&quot; from live images)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This means also dropping them from ldetect-lst, and if we keep/add
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some there, it must be for specific reason and on sub-vendor/device
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> level to not force the wl stuff on everyone...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The rationale is:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 6. dkms-broadcom-wl will still be available on mirrors and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on traditional install dvds in nonfree section
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (new feature for mga3)
+</I>&gt;<i> As far as 6 is actual, I am OK with it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My hardware is working only with the propriatary drivers and dkms
+</I>&gt;<i> packages are sufficient.
+</I>
+Are you sure this is still the case ?
+
+what is the output of &quot;lspcidrake -v&quot; for that device ?
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm thinking of dropping the nonfree prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</I>&gt;<i> (and thereby their &quot;support&quot; from live images)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This means also dropping them from ldetect-lst, and if we keep/add
+</I>&gt;<i> some there, it must be for specific reason and on sub-vendor/device
+</I>&gt;<i> level to not force the wl stuff on everyone...
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> Comments ?
+</I>
+Agreed. Besides, the free driver works much better (i.e. better range)
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+&gt;<i> 27.12.2012 00:54, Thomas Backlund kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm thinking of dropping the nonfree prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (and thereby their &quot;support&quot; from live images)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This means also dropping them from ldetect-lst, and if we keep/add
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some there, it must be for specific reason and on sub-vendor/device
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> level to not force the wl stuff on everyone...
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Comments ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Agreed. Besides, the free driver works much better (i.e. better range)
+</I>&gt;<i> with my laptop.
+</I>
+As it looks with i586 Beta1 none of the drivers works at the moment-
+
+lspci -v
+05:00:0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g
+LP-PHY (rev 01)
+Subsystem: Broadcom Corporation Device 04b5
+Kernel driver un use: wl
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+&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 27.12.2012 00:54, Thomas Backlund kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm thinking of dropping the nonfree prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (and thereby their &quot;support&quot; from live images)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This means also dropping them from ldetect-lst, and if we keep/add
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> some there, it must be for specific reason and on sub-vendor/device
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> level to not force the wl stuff on everyone...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Comments ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Agreed. Besides, the free driver works much better (i.e. better range)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with my laptop.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As it looks with i586 Beta1 none of the drivers works at the moment-
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> lspci -v
+</I>&gt;<i> 05:00:0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g
+</I>&gt;<i> LP-PHY (rev 01)
+</I>&gt;<i> Subsystem: Broadcom Corporation Device 04b5
+</I>&gt;<i> Kernel driver un use: wl
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+can you provide either &quot;lspcidrake -v&quot; or &quot;lspci -vnn&quot; for that device
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+--
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Guillaume Rousse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 27/12/2012 11:29, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It seems like the systemd way of starting would be:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> systemctl start openssh.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But, then produces an error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> /]# systemctl start openssh.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Running in chroot, ignoring request.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So, Any thoughts on what is the recommended way, and I'll be happy to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> update the wiki to reflect this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Last time I tried, I gave up after various attempts and now went back
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to the basics: running &quot;sshd&quot; and killing it to stop it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe I'll fetch some old initscript.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I guess using a specific unit file, using builtin systemd chroot support,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should help. See <A HREF="http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/changing-roots">http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/changing-roots</A> for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> details.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes having an unit outside of the chroot with
+</I>&gt;<i> RootDirectoryStartOnly=yes would probably help (I had tried the &quot;full
+</I>&gt;<i> system&quot; chroot and couldn't get it to work and gave up after an hour)
+</I>
+Do you mean with systemd-nspawn?
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+&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 15:18:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 27.12.2012 00:54, Thomas Backlund kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm thinking of dropping the nonfree prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (and thereby their &quot;support&quot; from live images)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This means also dropping them from ldetect-lst, and if we keep/add
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> some there, it must be for specific reason and on sub-vendor/device
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> level to not force the wl stuff on everyone...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Comments ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Agreed. Besides, the free driver works much better (i.e. better range)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with my laptop.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As it looks with i586 Beta1 none of the drivers works at the moment-
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lspci -v
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 05:00:0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> LP-PHY (rev 01)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Subsystem: Broadcom Corporation Device 04b5
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Kernel driver un use: wl
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> can you provide either &quot;lspcidrake -v&quot; or &quot;lspci -vnn&quot; for that device
+</I>
+# lspcidrake -v |grep Broadcom
+wl : Broadcom Corporation | BCN4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [NETWORK_OTHER]
+(vendor:14e4 device:4315 subv:14e4 subd:04b5) (rev 1)
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+That's it
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+--
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+&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
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+&gt;&gt;<i> can you provide either &quot;lspcidrake -v&quot; or &quot;lspci -vnn&quot; for that device
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # lspcidrake -v |grep Broadcom
+</I>&gt;<i> wl : Broadcom Corporation | BCN4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [NETWORK_OTHER]
+</I>&gt;<i> (vendor:14e4 device:4315 subv:14e4 subd:04b5) (rev 1)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks. that shows the subvendor/device ids.
+The 4312 ones are problematic iirc...
+
+Now for some tests...
+
+1. uninstall any *broadcom-wl* package on the system.
+2. disable nonfree medias (to prevent drakx access to them)
+3. reboot.
+4. try to reconfigure your wireless connection and see if it works.
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+5. if it does not work, enable nonfree media again
+6. install dkms-broadcom-wl
+7. reboot
+8. try to reconfigure wireless again and see if it works now.
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+--
+Thomas
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+<PRE>On Thursday, December 27, 2012 01:20:23 AM Sander Lepik wrote:
+&gt;<i> 27.12.2012 00:54, Thomas Backlund kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm thinking of dropping the nonfree prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (and thereby their &quot;support&quot; from live images)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This means also dropping them from ldetect-lst, and if we keep/add
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; some there, it must be for specific reason and on sub-vendor/device
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; level to not force the wl stuff on everyone...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; To do this I suggest we should do this asap, and keep it for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; atleast mga3-beta2 isos, so we can check how it works out...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Comments ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm OK with that as currently i can't use wifi on LiveDVDs. wl driver is
+</I>&gt;<i> causing more mess than it's helping to resolve.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>
+The wl driver isn't working on BCM4311, the b43 is
+Bug #6111
+--
+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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+&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 16:04:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; can you provide either &quot;lspcidrake -v&quot; or &quot;lspci -vnn&quot; for that device
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; # lspcidrake -v |grep Broadcom
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wl : Broadcom Corporation | BCN4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [NETWORK_OTHER]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (vendor:14e4 device:4315 subv:14e4 subd:04b5) (rev 1)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That's it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks. that shows the subvendor/device ids.
+</I>&gt;<i> The 4312 ones are problematic iirc...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now for some tests...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. uninstall any *broadcom-wl* package on the system.
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. disable nonfree medias (to prevent drakx access to them)
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. reboot.
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. try to reconfigure your wireless connection and see if it works.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 5. if it does not work, enable nonfree media again
+</I>&gt;<i> 6. install dkms-broadcom-wl
+</I>&gt;<i> 7. reboot
+</I>&gt;<i> 8. try to reconfigure wireless again and see if it works now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+OK, I'll do that tonight on an older laptop that has the 4311 device
+
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+&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 16:04:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> can you provide either &quot;lspcidrake -v&quot; or &quot;lspci -vnn&quot; for that device
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # lspcidrake -v |grep Broadcom
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wl : Broadcom Corporation | BCN4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [NETWORK_OTHER]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (vendor:14e4 device:4315 subv:14e4 subd:04b5) (rev 1)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks. that shows the subvendor/device ids.
+</I>&gt;<i> The 4312 ones are problematic iirc...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now for some tests...
+</I>
+In which mode do you want me to do that ?
+ - live mode
+ - installed without net access (through additional cable)
+ - installed with net access (through additional cable) ?
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cjw at daneel.dyndns.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Guillaume Rousse
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 27/12/2012 11:29, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It seems like the systemd way of starting would be:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> systemctl start openssh.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But, then produces an error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> /]# systemctl start openssh.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Running in chroot, ignoring request.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So, Any thoughts on what is the recommended way, and I'll be happy to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> update the wiki to reflect this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Last time I tried, I gave up after various attempts and now went back
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to the basics: running &quot;sshd&quot; and killing it to stop it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe I'll fetch some old initscript.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I guess using a specific unit file, using builtin systemd chroot support,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should help. See <A HREF="http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/changing-roots">http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/changing-roots</A> for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> details.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes having an unit outside of the chroot with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> RootDirectoryStartOnly=yes would probably help (I had tried the &quot;full
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> system&quot; chroot and couldn't get it to work and gave up after an hour)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you mean with systemd-nspawn?
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 16:04:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> can you provide either &quot;lspcidrake -v&quot; or &quot;lspci -vnn&quot; for that device
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # lspcidrake -v |grep Broadcom
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wl : Broadcom Corporation | BCN4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [NETWORK_OTHER]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (vendor:14e4 device:4315 subv:14e4 subd:04b5) (rev 1)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That's it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks. that shows the subvendor/device ids.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The 4312 ones are problematic iirc...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now for some tests...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In which mode do you want me to do that ?
+</I>&gt;<i> - live mode
+</I>
+This wont work as you need to reboot to make sure the hw is in &quot;good
+state&quot; , wich will make the &quot;uninstall part&quot; useless.
+
+&gt;<i> - installed without net access (through additional cable)
+</I>&gt;<i> - installed with net access (through additional cable) ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+you dont need cable access for the first part (1-4) but need
+cable access (or beta1 install dvd) for second part (5-8)
+
+after configuration step you obviously need to disconnect the
+cable to verify that it works with wireless.
+
+And you dont need to do a new install to test this,
+a current installed/updated cauldron system should be enough.
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+--
+Thomas
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+&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 16:29:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 16:04:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> can you provide either &quot;lspcidrake -v&quot; or &quot;lspci -vnn&quot; for that device
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # lspcidrake -v |grep Broadcom
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wl : Broadcom Corporation | BCN4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [NETWORK_OTHER]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (vendor:14e4 device:4315 subv:14e4 subd:04b5) (rev 1)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That's it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks. that shows the subvendor/device ids.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The 4312 ones are problematic iirc...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now for some tests...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In which mode do you want me to do that ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - live mode
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This wont work as you need to reboot to make sure the hw is in &quot;good
+</I>&gt;<i> state&quot; , wich will make the &quot;uninstall part&quot; useless.
+</I>
+Ok, that was clear.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - installed without net access (through additional cable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - installed with net access (through additional cable) ?
+</I>&gt;<i> you dont need cable access for the first part (1-4) but need
+</I>&gt;<i> cable access (or beta1 install dvd) for second part (5-8)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> after configuration step you obviously need to disconnect the
+</I>&gt;<i> cable to verify that it works with wireless.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And you dont need to do a new install to test this,
+</I>&gt;<i> a current installed/updated cauldron system should be enough.
+</I>
+Ah, I need to do a new because I only have one system with this device
+:<i>( So I just start from fresh,
+</I> - first with non-free disabled and reboot,
+ - then non-free enabled with reboot
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+w&#252;b&#252;
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+&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 16:29:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 16:04:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> can you provide either &quot;lspcidrake -v&quot; or &quot;lspci -vnn&quot; for that device
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # lspcidrake -v |grep Broadcom
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wl : Broadcom Corporation | BCN4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [NETWORK_OTHER]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (vendor:14e4 device:4315 subv:14e4 subd:04b5) (rev 1)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That's it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks. that shows the subvendor/device ids.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The 4312 ones are problematic iirc...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now for some tests...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In which mode do you want me to do that ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - live mode
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This wont work as you need to reboot to make sure the hw is in &quot;good
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> state&quot; , wich will make the &quot;uninstall part&quot; useless.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, that was clear.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - installed without net access (through additional cable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - installed with net access (through additional cable) ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you dont need cable access for the first part (1-4) but need
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cable access (or beta1 install dvd) for second part (5-8)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> after configuration step you obviously need to disconnect the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cable to verify that it works with wireless.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And you dont need to do a new install to test this,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a current installed/updated cauldron system should be enough.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah, I need to do a new because I only have one system with this device
+</I>&gt;<i> :( So I just start from fresh,
+</I>&gt;<i> - first with non-free disabled and reboot,
+</I>&gt;<i> - then non-free enabled with reboot
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hm, is that system running mga2 ?
+
+I wonder if I should create 2 test livecds to ease testing
+right now, one without broadcom-wl, and the other
+with broadcom-wl and in-kernel drivers blacklisted...
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+--
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+&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 16:49:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 16:29:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 16:04:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> can you provide either &quot;lspcidrake -v&quot; or &quot;lspci -vnn&quot; for that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> device
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # lspcidrake -v |grep Broadcom
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wl : Broadcom Corporation | BCN4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [NETWORK_OTHER]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (vendor:14e4 device:4315 subv:14e4 subd:04b5) (rev 1)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That's it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks. that shows the subvendor/device ids.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The 4312 ones are problematic iirc...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now for some tests...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In which mode do you want me to do that ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - live mode
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This wont work as you need to reboot to make sure the hw is in &quot;good
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> state&quot; , wich will make the &quot;uninstall part&quot; useless.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, that was clear.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - installed without net access (through additional cable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - installed with net access (through additional cable) ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> you dont need cable access for the first part (1-4) but need
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cable access (or beta1 install dvd) for second part (5-8)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> after configuration step you obviously need to disconnect the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cable to verify that it works with wireless.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And you dont need to do a new install to test this,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a current installed/updated cauldron system should be enough.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ah, I need to do a new because I only have one system with this device
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> :( So I just start from fresh,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - first with non-free disabled and reboot,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - then non-free enabled with reboot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hm, is that system running mga2 ?
+</I>
+No, it is running no system at all save for the one I'm going to
+install- It's a small harddisk holding just one.
+Don't bother, I'd have to re-install anyway.
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+Pascal Terjan wrote:
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Or fix the package to not use a tilde in provides :)
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+</I>&gt;<i> This is an automatic provides from the version in pkg-config file
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+<PRE>On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Charles A Edwards &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">CAE at eslrahc.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:54:16 +0000
+</I>&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Or fix the package to not use a tilde in provides :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is an automatic provides from the version in pkg-config file
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then why not use
+</I>&gt;<i> define _provides_exceptions
+</I>
+This provides is correct and may be used by other packages, I see no
+reason to remove it
+
+Old rpm accepts it
+
+New rpm accepts it and handles it slightly better
+
+I don't really see a reason to forbid installing the package with an
+old version rpm if it was built with the new rpm given that the
+produced rpm is exactly the same apart from this added
+rpmlib(TildeInVersions) fake dependency and it would work perfectly
+fine without it.
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Charles A Edwards &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">CAE at eslrahc.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:54:16 +0000
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Or fix the package to not use a tilde in provides :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is an automatic provides from the version in pkg-config file
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Then why not use
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> define _provides_exceptions
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This provides is correct and may be used by other packages, I see no
+</I>&gt;<i> reason to remove it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Old rpm accepts it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> New rpm accepts it and handles it slightly better
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't really see a reason to forbid installing the package with an
+</I>&gt;<i> old version rpm if it was built with the new rpm given that the
+</I>&gt;<i> produced rpm is exactly the same apart from this added
+</I>&gt;<i> rpmlib(TildeInVersions) fake dependency and it would work perfectly
+</I>&gt;<i> fine without it.
+</I>
+AFAICT a Requires: pkgconfig(ftgl) &lt; 2.1.3 will be rejected by old rpm but
+matched by new rpm. We may need to backport this feature.
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+</I>&gt;<i> I wonder if I should create 2 test livecds to ease testing
+</I>&gt;<i> right now, one without broadcom-wl, and the other
+</I>&gt;<i> with broadcom-wl and in-kernel drivers blacklisted...
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+And so I did :)
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+Theese are exactly the same as the official beta1 isos,
+with only exceptions are the broadcom-wl tests:
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+* No broadcom-wl drivers on iso, and no &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst:
+<A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-no-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-no-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/</A>
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+* broadcom-wl drivers on iso, &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst,
+ in-kernel drivers blacklisted:
+<A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/</A>
+
+
+And you can soon find them on any Mageia mirror in:
+
+people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test
+
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+Have fun...
+
+--
+Thomas
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+&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund skrev 27.12.2012 17:01:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I wonder if I should create 2 test livecds to ease testing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> right now, one without broadcom-wl, and the other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with broadcom-wl and in-kernel drivers blacklisted...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And so I did :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Theese are exactly the same as the official beta1 isos,
+</I>&gt;<i> with only exceptions are the broadcom-wl tests:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * No broadcom-wl drivers on iso, and no &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-no-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-no-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * broadcom-wl drivers on iso, &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst,
+</I>&gt;<i> in-kernel drivers blacklisted:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And you can soon find them on any Mageia mirror in:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test
+</I>
+Thx for the extra work, I had to re-install anyway, am in the middle to do so-
+
+My first attempt is without actiyated non-free which should tell something-
+
+After that I will use the usb stick with enabled non-free and checl
+again. all without cable-
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+--
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+<PRE>On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Christiaan Welvaart
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cjw at daneel.dyndns.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Charles A Edwards &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">CAE at eslrahc.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:54:16 +0000
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Or fix the package to not use a tilde in provides :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is an automatic provides from the version in pkg-config file
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Then why not use
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> define _provides_exceptions
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This provides is correct and may be used by other packages, I see no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reason to remove it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Old rpm accepts it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> New rpm accepts it and handles it slightly better
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't really see a reason to forbid installing the package with an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> old version rpm if it was built with the new rpm given that the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> produced rpm is exactly the same apart from this added
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpmlib(TildeInVersions) fake dependency and it would work perfectly
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fine without it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> AFAICT a Requires: pkgconfig(ftgl) &lt; 2.1.3 will be rejected by old rpm but
+</I>&gt;<i> matched by new rpm. We may need to backport this feature.
+</I>
+Yes but the provides was already there on Mageia 2 and at least will
+work find if something requires unversionned pkgconfig(ftgl)
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund skrev 27.12.2012 17:01:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I wonder if I should create 2 test livecds to ease testing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> right now, one without broadcom-wl, and the other
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with broadcom-wl and in-kernel drivers blacklisted...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And so I did :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Theese are exactly the same as the official beta1 isos,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with only exceptions are the broadcom-wl tests:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * No broadcom-wl drivers on iso, and no &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-no-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-no-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * broadcom-wl drivers on iso, &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in-kernel drivers blacklisted:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And you can soon find them on any Mageia mirror in:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thx for the extra work, I had to re-install anyway, am in the middle to do so-
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My first attempt is without actiyated non-free which should tell something-
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After that I will use the usb stick with enabled non-free and checl
+</I>&gt;<i> again. all without cable-
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ok, so now I am at the point where I try to configure wifi without any
+additional media than the core repository-
+The correct wifi is found but the system says that there are
+additiona&#246;l software and drivers needed (namely broadcom-wl) which I
+may find in non-free or elsewhere. Just as expected.
+
+Reboot.
+
+Now could I use the same installation to upgrade and use the same usb
+stick, just activating the core plus non-free ? Or do I have to redo
+the whole instatallotion?
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+&gt;<i> can someone explain me why now I have in
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/philippem/build.html">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/philippem/build.html</A> a lot of fail
+</I>&gt;<i> because libffi.so.6 is not there ?
+</I>&gt;<i> is there somewhere a depency problem ?
+</I>&gt;<i> I never had before to explicitly ask for libffi build depend for these packages
+</I>
+See the thread &quot;Rebuild failed on i586 for
+@334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm&quot;
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+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, so now I am at the point where I try to configure wifi without any
+</I>&gt;<i> additional media than the core repository-
+</I>&gt;<i> The correct wifi is found but the system says that there are
+</I>&gt;<i> additiona&#246;l software and drivers needed (namely broadcom-wl) which I
+</I>&gt;<i> may find in non-free or elsewhere. Just as expected.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Did it try to configure it anyway, or did it stop there ?
+
+&gt;<i> Reboot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now could I use the same installation to upgrade and use the same usb
+</I>&gt;<i> stick, just activating the core plus non-free ? Or do I have to redo
+</I>&gt;<i> the whole instatallotion?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Just use the same install and install dkms-broadcom-wl
+
+--
+Thomas
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+<PRE>On 27.12.2012 13:58, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> Kamil Rytarowski skrev 27.12.2012 03:33:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My hardware is working only with the propriatary drivers and dkms
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages are sufficient.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are you sure this is still the case ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> what is the output of &quot;lspcidrake -v&quot; for that device ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+wl : Broadcom Corporation|BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless
+LAN Controller [NETWORK_OTHER] (vendor:14e4 device:432b subv:1028
+subd:000d) (rev: 01)
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+&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 19:54:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, so now I am at the point where I try to configure wifi without any
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> additional media than the core repository-
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The correct wifi is found but the system says that there are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> additiona&#246;l software and drivers needed (namely broadcom-wl) which I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> may find in non-free or elsewhere. Just as expected.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Did it try to configure it anyway, or did it stop there ?
+</I>
+No, it ends there- you can close the ,essage and go back where you
+have the already used option or the option to use a windows driver
+with ndiswrapper. Or go back and leave the cinfiguration
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Reboot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now could I use the same installation to upgrade and use the same usb
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> stick, just activating the core plus non-free ? Or do I have to redo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the whole instatallotion?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just use the same install and install dkms-broadcom-wl
+</I>
+Ok. so all I have to do go online with cable bound network, set media
+including non-free, and then install dkms-broadcom-wl plus the needed
+things. then reboot and try a new attempt at configuring .
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+&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 19:54:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, so now I am at the point where I try to configure wifi without any
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> additional media than the core repository-
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The correct wifi is found but the system says that there are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> additiona&#246;l software and drivers needed (namely broadcom-wl) which I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> may find in non-free or elsewhere. Just as expected.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Did it try to configure it anyway, or did it stop there ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, it ends there- you can close the ,essage and go back where you
+</I>&gt;<i> have the already used option or the option to use a windows driver
+</I>&gt;<i> with ndiswrapper. Or go back and leave the cinfiguration
+</I>
+Hm, ok, so I guess it would need manual configuration to test,
+but it is easier to test the free drivers you can test with the
+&quot;no-wl&quot; test livecd....
+
+
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Reboot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now could I use the same installation to upgrade and use the same usb
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> stick, just activating the core plus non-free ? Or do I have to redo
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the whole instatallotion?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just use the same install and install dkms-broadcom-wl
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok. so all I have to do go online with cable bound network, set media
+</I>&gt;<i> including non-free, and then install dkms-broadcom-wl plus the needed
+</I>&gt;<i> things. then reboot and try a new attempt at configuring .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+yep. it might still suggest to install some of the prebuilt drivers,
+but thats ok. the important part is the blacklist that comes with
+dkms-broadcom-wl
+
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+Thomas
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+&gt;<i> On 27.12.2012 13:58, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Kamil Rytarowski skrev 27.12.2012 03:33:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> My hardware is working only with the propriatary drivers and dkms
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packages are sufficient.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are you sure this is still the case ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> what is the output of &quot;lspcidrake -v&quot; for that device ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> wl : Broadcom Corporation|BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless
+</I>&gt;<i> LAN Controller [NETWORK_OTHER] (vendor:14e4 device:432b subv:1028
+</I>&gt;<i> subd:000d) (rev: 01)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If there is a chance that it may work with the current open drivers,
+</I>&gt;<i> then I can give it a try this weekend.
+</I>
+Hm,
+Initial BCM4322 support got added upstream in 2.6.38, so yes please try
+the &quot;no-wl&quot; test livecd to see if it has improved.
+
+
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+&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 22:17:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 19:54:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, so now I am at the point where I try to configure wifi without any
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> additional media than the core repository-
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The correct wifi is found but the system says that there are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> additiona&#246;l software and drivers needed (namely broadcom-wl) which I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> may find in non-free or elsewhere. Just as expected.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Did it try to configure it anyway, or did it stop there ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No, it ends there- you can close the ,essage and go back where you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have the already used option or the option to use a windows driver
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with ndiswrapper. Or go back and leave the cinfiguration
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hm, ok, so I guess it would need manual configuration to test,
+</I>&gt;<i> but it is easier to test the free drivers you can test with the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;no-wl&quot; test livecd....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Reboot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now could I use the same installation to upgrade and use the same usb
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> stick, just activating the core plus non-free ? Or do I have to redo
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the whole instatallotion?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just use the same install and install dkms-broadcom-wl
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ok. so all I have to do go online with cable bound network, set media
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> including non-free, and then install dkms-broadcom-wl plus the needed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> things. then reboot and try a new attempt at configuring .
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> yep. it might still suggest to install some of the prebuilt drivers,
+</I>&gt;<i> but thats ok. the important part is the blacklist that comes with
+</I>&gt;<i> dkms-broadcom-wl
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ok, here I may have been too fast. I went online, set the media
+including non-free and shot at 'urpmi dkms-broadcom-wl'- The system
+installed 18 packages but at the end it gave errors:
+
+Error! Could not locate wl.ko.xz for module broadcom-wl in the DKMS
+tree. Yoou must run a dkms build for kernel first-
+warning: %post(dkms-broadcom-wl-5.100.82.112-5.mga3.non-free.i586)
+scriptlet failed, exit status 4
+
+--
+wobo
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+&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 22:17:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 19:54:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, so now I am at the point where I try to configure wifi without any
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> additional media than the core repository-
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The correct wifi is found but the system says that there are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> additiona&#246;l software and drivers needed (namely broadcom-wl) which I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> may find in non-free or elsewhere. Just as expected.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Did it try to configure it anyway, or did it stop there ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No, it ends there- you can close the ,essage and go back where you
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have the already used option or the option to use a windows driver
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with ndiswrapper. Or go back and leave the cinfiguration
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hm, ok, so I guess it would need manual configuration to test,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but it is easier to test the free drivers you can test with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;no-wl&quot; test livecd....
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Reboot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now could I use the same installation to upgrade and use the same usb
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> stick, just activating the core plus non-free ? Or do I have to redo
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the whole instatallotion?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just use the same install and install dkms-broadcom-wl
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ok. so all I have to do go online with cable bound network, set media
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> including non-free, and then install dkms-broadcom-wl plus the needed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> things. then reboot and try a new attempt at configuring .
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> yep. it might still suggest to install some of the prebuilt drivers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but thats ok. the important part is the blacklist that comes with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dkms-broadcom-wl
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, here I may have been too fast. I went online, set the media
+</I>&gt;<i> including non-free and shot at 'urpmi dkms-broadcom-wl'- The system
+</I>&gt;<i> installed 18 packages but at the end it gave errors:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Error! Could not locate wl.ko.xz for module broadcom-wl in the DKMS
+</I>&gt;<i> tree. Yoou must run a dkms build for kernel first-
+</I>&gt;<i> warning: %post(dkms-broadcom-wl-5.100.82.112-5.mga3.non-free.i586)
+</I>&gt;<i> scriptlet failed, exit status 4
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hm, do you have the -devel package matching the kernel you use installed ?
+
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+&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 22:39:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 22:17:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 19:54:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, so now I am at the point where I try to configure wifi without any
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> additional media than the core repository-
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The correct wifi is found but the system says that there are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> additiona&#246;l software and drivers needed (namely broadcom-wl) which I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> may find in non-free or elsewhere. Just as expected.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Did it try to configure it anyway, or did it stop there ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No, it ends there- you can close the ,essage and go back where you
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have the already used option or the option to use a windows driver
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with ndiswrapper. Or go back and leave the cinfiguration
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hm, ok, so I guess it would need manual configuration to test,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but it is easier to test the free drivers you can test with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;no-wl&quot; test livecd....
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Reboot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now could I use the same installation to upgrade and use the same usb
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> stick, just activating the core plus non-free ? Or do I have to redo
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the whole instatallotion?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just use the same install and install dkms-broadcom-wl
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ok. so all I have to do go online with cable bound network, set media
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> including non-free, and then install dkms-broadcom-wl plus the needed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> things. then reboot and try a new attempt at configuring .
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> yep. it might still suggest to install some of the prebuilt drivers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but thats ok. the important part is the blacklist that comes with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dkms-broadcom-wl
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, here I may have been too fast. I went online, set the media
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> including non-free and shot at 'urpmi dkms-broadcom-wl'- The system
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed 18 packages but at the end it gave errors:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Error! Could not locate wl.ko.xz for module broadcom-wl in the DKMS
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tree. Yoou must run a dkms build for kernel first-
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> warning: %post(dkms-broadcom-wl-5.100.82.112-5.mga3.non-free.i586)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> scriptlet failed, exit status 4
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hm, do you have the -devel package matching the kernel you use installed ?
+</I>
+Damn! When you are too tired and still go on simple errors are creeping up!
+
+I have to call it a day will go on tomorrow, if my brain is still
+there where I left it. G'night.
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, philippe makowski wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> can someone explain me why now I have in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/philippem/build.html">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/philippem/build.html</A> a lot of fail
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> because libffi.so.6 is not there ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is there somewhere a depency problem ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I never had before to explicitly ask for libffi build depend for these
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See the thread &quot;Rebuild failed on i586 for
+</I>&gt;<i> @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Fixed with ghc-7.6.1-2.mga3 so you should probably just try again.
+</I>
+New build is in progress, build.html will be updated tomorrow after it completes
+Meanwhile you can watch it on
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+<PRE>Em 26-12-2012 23:54, Thomas Backlund escreveu:
+&gt;<i> 3. the broadcom drivers in upstream kernel.org kernels are
+</I>&gt;<i> improving and also adding support for hw that broadcom-wl
+</I>&gt;<i> is not really supporting even if pretends to do so...
+</I>
+We should just be carefull about the fact there are 2 different open
+source drivers:
+- brcm80211 which I could never use without crash
+- b43
+ * can run with b43-openfwwf for 4xxx hw.
+ * needs nonfree firmware files for 4xxxx hw.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then we maybe need to add some way for dkms-broadcom-wl
+</I>&gt;<i> users to instruct the drakx tools that they prefer/need the
+</I>&gt;<i> nonfree driver...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes, this is the most needed part, currently we just always install wl
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+&gt;<i> Kamil Rytarowski skrev 27.12.2012 22:14:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 27.12.2012 13:58, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Kamil Rytarowski skrev 27.12.2012 03:33:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; My hardware is working only with the propriatary drivers and dkms
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; packages are sufficient.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Are you sure this is still the case ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; what is the output of &quot;lspcidrake -v&quot; for that device ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wl : Broadcom Corporation|BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; LAN Controller [NETWORK_OTHER] (vendor:14e4 device:432b subv:1028
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; subd:000d) (rev: 01)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If there is a chance that it may work with the current open drivers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; then I can give it a try this weekend.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hm,
+</I>&gt;<i> Initial BCM4322 support got added upstream in 2.6.38, so yes please try
+</I>&gt;<i> the &quot;no-wl&quot; test livecd to see if it has improved.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>This is a nice link:
+<A HREF="http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43">http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43</A>
+
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+<PRE>On Thursday, December 27, 2012 09:28:29 AM Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund skrev 27.12.2012 17:01:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I wonder if I should create 2 test livecds to ease testing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; right now, one without broadcom-wl, and the other
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with broadcom-wl and in-kernel drivers blacklisted...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And so I did :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Theese are exactly the same as the official beta1 isos,
+</I>&gt;<i> with only exceptions are the broadcom-wl tests:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * No broadcom-wl drivers on iso, and no &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-no-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * broadcom-wl drivers on iso, &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst,
+</I>&gt;<i> in-kernel drivers blacklisted:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And you can soon find them on any Mageia mirror in:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Have fun...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>I am going to try it as soon as the ISO is downloaded. Unfortunately, it's on distcoffee. the slowest
+mirror.
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+&gt;<i> On Thursday, December 27, 2012 09:28:29 AM Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund skrev 27.12.2012 17:01:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I wonder if I should create 2 test livecds to ease testing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> right now, one without broadcom-wl, and the other
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with broadcom-wl and in-kernel drivers blacklisted...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And so I did :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Theese are exactly the same as the official beta1 isos,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with only exceptions are the broadcom-wl tests:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * No broadcom-wl drivers on iso, and no &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-no-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * broadcom-wl drivers on iso, &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in-kernel drivers blacklisted:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And you can soon find them on any Mageia mirror in:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Have fun...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i> I am going to try it as soon as the ISO is downloaded. Unfortunately, it's on distcoffee. the slowest
+</I>&gt;<i> mirror.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Read again :)
+
+It's on every mageia mirror (as soon as they are synced), just navigate
+to people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test
+
+for example kernel.org:
+<A HREF="http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/">http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/</A>
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+&gt;<i> Tomcat 5 is no longer maintained (and will be removed from upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> mirrors in a few days).
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess we want to remove it from cauldron, but just wanted a confirmation :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was looking at (currently failing to build) apache-jasper-5.5.28 and
+</I>&gt;<i> noticed it can die with tomcat5
+</I>
+if you make sure all rpms that have it as BR still build this is OK for me
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+&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler skrev 28.12.2012 01:20:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thursday, December 27, 2012 09:28:29 AM Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thomas Backlund skrev 27.12.2012 17:01:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I wonder if I should create 2 test livecds to ease testing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; right now, one without broadcom-wl, and the other
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; with broadcom-wl and in-kernel drivers blacklisted...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; And so I did :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Theese are exactly the same as the official beta1 isos,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; with only exceptions are the broadcom-wl tests:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * No broadcom-wl drivers on iso, and no &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-b">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-b</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; eta 1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-no-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * broadcom-wl drivers on iso, &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; in-kernel drivers blacklisted:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-b">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-b</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; eta 1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; And you can soon find them on any Mageia mirror in:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Have fun...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am going to try it as soon as the ISO is downloaded. Unfortunately,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it's on distcoffee. the slowest mirror.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Read again :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's on every mageia mirror (as soon as they are synced), just navigate
+</I>&gt;<i> to people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> for example kernel.org:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/">http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+OK. I booted up and connected to the wireless.
+What info would you need?
+BTW I am on IRC as Oro Valley
+--
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+&gt;<i> On Thursday, December 27, 2012 04:23:25 PM Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler skrev 28.12.2012 01:20:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thursday, December 27, 2012 09:28:29 AM Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund skrev 27.12.2012 17:01:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I wonder if I should create 2 test livecds to ease testing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> right now, one without broadcom-wl, and the other
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with broadcom-wl and in-kernel drivers blacklisted...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And so I did :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Theese are exactly the same as the official beta1 isos,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with only exceptions are the broadcom-wl tests:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * No broadcom-wl drivers on iso, and no &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-b">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-b</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> eta 1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-no-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * broadcom-wl drivers on iso, &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in-kernel drivers blacklisted:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-b">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-b</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> eta 1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And you can soon find them on any Mageia mirror in:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Have fun...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I am going to try it as soon as the ISO is downloaded. Unfortunately,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it's on distcoffee. the slowest mirror.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Read again :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's on every mageia mirror (as soon as they are synced), just navigate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for example kernel.org:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/">http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK. I booted up and connected to the wireless.
+</I>&gt;<i> What info would you need?
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW I am on IRC as Oro Valley
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Well, wich iso works ?
+if both works, wich one works better ?
+
+if one does not work, is there any warning/error in dmesg ?
+
+--
+Thomas
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+&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler skrev 28.12.2012 01:20:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thursday, December 27, 2012 09:28:29 AM Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thomas Backlund skrev 27.12.2012 17:01:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I wonder if I should create 2 test livecds to ease testing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; right now, one without broadcom-wl, and the other
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; with broadcom-wl and in-kernel drivers blacklisted...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; And so I did :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Theese are exactly the same as the official beta1 isos,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; with only exceptions are the broadcom-wl tests:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * No broadcom-wl drivers on iso, and no &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-b">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-b</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; eta 1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-no-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * broadcom-wl drivers on iso, &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; in-kernel drivers blacklisted:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-b">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-b</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; eta 1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; And you can soon find them on any Mageia mirror in:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Have fun...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am going to try it as soon as the ISO is downloaded. Unfortunately,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it's on distcoffee. the slowest mirror.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Read again :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's on every mageia mirror (as soon as they are synced), just navigate
+</I>&gt;<i> to people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> for example kernel.org:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/">http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+Here we go:
+I downloaded the CD w/o the wl driver and booted up the old DELL E1405 with the BCM4311 wl chip.
+I opened the Networkcenter and had three interfaces showing:
+
+1. Ethernet
+
+2. Wireless (Wi-Fi) and underneath Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
+
+3. Wireless (Wi-Fi) and underneath wlan0
+
+in the window under 3, I got the usual local wireless networks showing up and was able to connect to
+my home network
+
+in the window under 2, I got an empty window and two windows popping up:
+Looking for required software and drivers...
+and
+Error
+Some packages (broadcom-wl) are required but arn't available. These packages can be found in Mageia,
+or in the official non-free repository
+The following componenet is missing: wl
+...
+...
+
+
+
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+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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+<PRE>On Thursday, December 27, 2012 05:13:11 PM Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler skrev 28.12.2012 02:00:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thursday, December 27, 2012 04:23:25 PM Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thomas Spuhler skrev 28.12.2012 01:20:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On Thursday, December 27, 2012 09:28:29 AM Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thomas Backlund skrev 27.12.2012 17:01:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I wonder if I should create 2 test livecds to ease testing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; right now, one without broadcom-wl, and the other
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with broadcom-wl and in-kernel drivers blacklisted...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; And so I did :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Theese are exactly the same as the official beta1 isos,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with only exceptions are the broadcom-wl tests:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * No broadcom-wl drivers on iso, and no &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; -b eta 1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-no-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * broadcom-wl drivers on iso, &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in-kernel drivers blacklisted:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; -b eta 1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; And you can soon find them on any Mageia mirror in:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Have fun...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I am going to try it as soon as the ISO is downloaded. Unfortunately,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; it's on distcoffee. the slowest mirror.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Read again :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It's on every mageia mirror (as soon as they are synced), just navigate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; for example kernel.org:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/">http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; OK. I booted up and connected to the wireless.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What info would you need?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; BTW I am on IRC as Oro Valley
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, wich iso works ?
+</I>&gt;<i> if both works, wich one works better ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> if one does not work, is there any warning/error in dmesg ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>See my other e-mail about the ISO w/o the wl driver.
+I then booted with the no-wl LiveCD ISO
+I opened the Networkcenter and there was no wireless network showing at all (I noramlly can see 5 of
+them in my home).
+In fact there was a brief splash &lt;looking for ...&gt;
+
+Then came up the error window with the message
+Unable to find network interface for selected device (using wl driver)
+
+I then opened harddrake from a konsole and it was looking for packages to install. After connecting
+the ethernet cable, the packages were installed (dkms-, libs, gcc, kernel-desktop-devel and kernel-
+server-devel !, etc)
+I opened the Networkcenter again and the same message apeared:
+Unable to find network interface for selected device (using wl driver)
+
+Besides that the driver ins't working, the installation is a hassle using a LiveCd. A live CD should
+be something portable and easy for demo, etc.
+
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+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2012/12/27 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 22:39:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 22:17:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/12/27 Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 27.12.2012 19:54:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, so now I am at the point where I try to configure wifi without any
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> additional media than the core repository-
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The correct wifi is found but the system says that there are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> additiona&#246;l software and drivers needed (namely broadcom-wl) which I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> may find in non-free or elsewhere. Just as expected.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Did it try to configure it anyway, or did it stop there ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No, it ends there- you can close the ,essage and go back where you
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have the already used option or the option to use a windows driver
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with ndiswrapper. Or go back and leave the cinfiguration
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hm, ok, so I guess it would need manual configuration to test,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but it is easier to test the free drivers you can test with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;no-wl&quot; test livecd....
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Reboot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now could I use the same installation to upgrade and use the same usb
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> stick, just activating the core plus non-free ? Or do I have to redo
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the whole instatallotion?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just use the same install and install dkms-broadcom-wl
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ok. so all I have to do go online with cable bound network, set media
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> including non-free, and then install dkms-broadcom-wl plus the needed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> things. then reboot and try a new attempt at configuring .
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> yep. it might still suggest to install some of the prebuilt drivers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but thats ok. the important part is the blacklist that comes with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dkms-broadcom-wl
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, here I may have been too fast. I went online, set the media
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> including non-free and shot at 'urpmi dkms-broadcom-wl'- The system
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installed 18 packages but at the end it gave errors:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Error! Could not locate wl.ko.xz for module broadcom-wl in the DKMS
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tree. Yoou must run a dkms build for kernel first-
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> warning: %post(dkms-broadcom-wl-5.100.82.112-5.mga3.non-free.i586)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> scriptlet failed, exit status 4
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hm, do you have the -devel package matching the kernel you use installed ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Damn! When you are too tired and still go on simple errors are creeping up!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have to call it a day will go on tomorrow, if my brain is still
+</I>&gt;<i> there where I left it. G'night.
+</I>
+Ok, new day new challenges!
+
+I booted with your KDE live with broadcom-wl. Results concerning wifi:
+
+The wifi chip was found and just 4 networks/APs (usually there are
+more than 15 metworks in the list). Mine is not on the list, filled in
+the infos including password, started but failed. Rebooted, same. Only
+4 of the usually more than 15 networks of my block, but not mine nore
+any other of the usually busy networks are listed. My wifi router is
+standing less than a foot away from the AP and the AP is worling, I
+have another machine running MGA3B1 running with wifi (Atheros chip)
+working nicely.
+
+--
+wobo
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Where's that file supposed to be located?
+</I>&gt;<i> I have updated the db, but urpmf glibcompat.h doesn't give me a hint to
+</I>&gt;<i> where it is located.
+</I>
+Many projects have a file called glibcompat.h, which one do you want?
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+ <B>Florian Hubold</B>
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+<PRE>Am 27.12.2012 09:48, schrieb Felix Miata:
+&gt;<i> On 2012-12-27 09:02 (GMT+0100) Guillaume Rousse composed:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Felix Miata composed:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> According to <A HREF="http://silk.apana.org.au/fc2development.html">http://silk.apana.org.au/fc2development.html</A> I ought to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> able to configure a repo from the content of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://silk.apana.org.au/rpm-stable-dev/fcl.repo">http://silk.apana.org.au/rpm-stable-dev/fcl.repo</A> :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You should reread it more carefully, they are assuming everyone uses yum
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> metadata...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Morevoer, a binary package build on fedora 1O isn't likely
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to install properly on mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva 2009 is explicitly listed. libstdc++5-3.3.6-4mdv2009.0.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> installs on Cauldron (and AFAICT compat with or substitute for it still isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> available from Mageia repos). So I would expect since that works, so would an
+</I>&gt;<i> FCL rpm expressly built for the same system, even if not conveniently via a
+</I>&gt;<i> configured repo.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's author has been around Linux a long time. I doubt he would claim what he
+</I>&gt;<i> claims about running on/built for old Fedora &amp; Mandriva releases if it
+</I>&gt;<i> wouldn't install on newer versions. His goal is for it to just work using a
+</I>&gt;<i> minimum of deps that all distros require or at least provide anyway. It
+</I>&gt;<i> installed for me easily using the supplied repo file at least on openSUSE
+</I>&gt;<i> 11.3, 11.4, 12.1, 12.2 &amp; release next. I find it hard to believe it wouldn't
+</I>&gt;<i> install as well on Mageia 1, 2 or next, and I would rather have it from a
+</I>&gt;<i> configured repo instead of having to fetch it manually for each new devel build.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You'd better get the source package and rebuild it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I looked around that site but didn't notice source even being available. I
+</I>&gt;<i> guess to find out if it even is requires access via a repo mechanism.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not counting Gentoo, last I built anything from source was more than 5 years
+</I>&gt;<i> ago, and I don't expect it will happen again in my lifetime. I don't build. I
+</I>&gt;<i> test software others build.
+</I>You should be able to install it via
+urpmi
+<A HREF="http://silk.apana.org.au/pub/fcl/filecommander-2.40-release1_fedora10.i386.rpm">http://silk.apana.org.au/pub/fcl/filecommander-2.40-release1_fedora10.i386.rpm</A>
+or
+urpmi
+<A HREF="http://silk.apana.org.au/pub/fcl/filecommander-2.40-release1_fedora10.x86_64.rpm">http://silk.apana.org.au/pub/fcl/filecommander-2.40-release1_fedora10.x86_64.rpm</A>
+for x86_64 system, but that doesn't mean that the package will necessarily work.
+
+You can't add a Fedora/RHEL style repo as an urpmi repo, and as it only contains
+one package, which receives no updates, this is even quite useless.
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+<PRE>Am 27.12.2012 09:49, schrieb AL13N:
+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 27 december 2012 00:02:28 schreef Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 25.12.2012 22:41, schrieb Charles A Edwards:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 22:24:56 +0100
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As root, run this command:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> echo task-obsolete &gt;&gt; /etc/urpmi/skip.list
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This will add task-obsolete into the skip list and you can use
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> obsoleted software.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> even easier:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpm -e task-obsolete
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Needed, but if you do not add it to the skip.list it will be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> re-installed the next time you update.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Charles
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OK, so there is currently only the option to have all packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> obsoleted or to have the mechanism completely disabled?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No proper way to only have selected obsoletes?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @Thierry, do you have any other clever solution here? Or some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> workaround or something similar?
+</I>&gt;<i> i just don't think there's any reasonable use case for this. (if you're not a
+</I>&gt;<i> developer), meaning you can maintain it yourself.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well, i just gave one use case (k9copy) which does not need to be maintained,
+but has been obsoleted. Which does not mean in turn, there's a drop-in
+replacement for it and/or that it has become obsolete at all.
+
+With that in mind, quoting the author:
+
+&gt;<i> Published on Sunday, 24 July 2011 Written by Jean-Michel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Developments on K9Copy stopped. After seven years, I decided to move on and
+</I>&gt;<i> get involved in other projects.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The DVD is obsolete, and I no longer believe in the future of desktop Linux.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I started working on this project after the installation of Mandrake. I
+</I>&gt;<i> thought it was wonderful and it could replace Windows. One thing was missing:
+</I>&gt;<i> a software to backup my DVD. That was my first program for Linux. I did not
+</I>&gt;<i> know what language to use, or what programming environment. I chose C + + and
+</I>&gt;<i> KDevelop on KDE, because it worked well on Mandrake.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well, the DVD is not really obsolete, many people still use it
+and want to provide contents via DVDs as that is the only widespread
+medium that most people have players for.
+
+But i get what you mean, and this is quite a cornercase ...
+Still i'd be happy if there's some solution for this problem.
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+<PRE>On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 19:34:31 -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> I opened the Networkcenter again and the same message apeared:
+</I>&gt;<i> Unable to find network interface for selected device (using wl driver)
+</I>
+ I've been through all that on a netbook with Broadcom BCM43225 and
+running fully-updated Mageia-3-A2.
+ I now have solid WiFi after starting to use NetworkManager, which I
+installed with the following instructions:
+
+ (1) Install plasma-applet-networkmanager*, and add it to your
+ panel.
+ (To find its icon, Unlock Widgets, go into the 'Panel Tool
+ Box' on the right of the KDE panel, select &quot;Add Widgets&quot;
+ Then type &quot;network&quot; in the Categories box, and float your mouse
+ cursor over each until you find Network Management.
+ Double-click on this one and it will show up somewhere on your
+ Panel.)
+
+ (2) In /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf change:
+ &quot;plugins=ifcfg-rh,keyfile&quot; to:
+ &quot;plugins=keyfile&quot;
+
+ (3) Click on the NM applet. It should bring up a dialog which will
+ list your SSID. Click on it to connect (or configure)
+
+ This has withstood all s/w updates so far, which is more than I can
+say for Mageia-2 which is my bread-and-butter install on the netbook.
+ Its WiFi was at first working but a s/w update broke it, though
+over in Google-land I saw a suggestion to install:
+
+ kernel-firmware-nonfree*
+
+after which the WiFi was back to normal.
+ However I have not dared not do any more s/w updates to Mageia-2 in
+case the WiFi breaks again, though I guess I could always try
+NetworkManager if it did (or start using M3A2 as main system).
+
+(*Tried that on Mageia-3-A2 but did not solve the problem.)
+--
+/\/\aurice
+
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+<PRE>I have a 32GB usb key that I use for playing music on my car stereo, which have an usb input.
+Today I was attempting fo rthe first time to add files to the usb key using Mageia and not my mdv2010.2 system. But the key doesn't show up in mga2, as it does on mdv2010.2.
+
+looking at the syslog, I see this:
+
+=============
+Dec 28 15:58:18 solbu-1 kernel: [1108473.573209] usb 3-3: new high-speed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd
+Dec 28 15:58:18 solbu-1 kernel: [1108473.584879] usb 3-3: New USB device found, idVendor=0781, idProduct=5566
+Dec 28 15:58:18 solbu-1 kernel: [1108473.584883] usb 3-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
+Dec 28 15:58:18 solbu-1 kernel: [1108473.584886] usb 3-3: Product: Cruzer Slice
+Dec 28 15:58:18 solbu-1 kernel: [1108473.584888] usb 3-3: Manufacturer: SanDisk
+Dec 28 15:58:18 solbu-1 kernel: [1108473.584890] usb 3-3: SerialNumber: 43171113C0E08B90
+Dec 28 15:58:18 solbu-1 kernel: [1108473.585033] usb 3-3: ep 0x81 - rounding interval to 32768 microframes, ep desc says 0 microframes
+Dec 28 15:58:18 solbu-1 kernel: [1108473.585037] usb 3-3: ep 0x2 - rounding interval to 32768 microframes, ep desc says 0 microframes
+Dec 28 15:58:18 solbu-1 kernel: [1108473.585293] scsi6 : usb-storage 3-3:1.0
+Dec 28 15:58:18 solbu-1 mtp-probe: checking bus 3, device 2: &quot;/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-3&quot;
+Dec 28 15:58:18 solbu-1 mtp-probe: bus: 3, device: 2 was not an MTP device
+Dec 28 15:58:19 solbu-1 kernel: [1108474.584566] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access SanDisk Cruzer Slice 8.02 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
+Dec 28 15:58:19 solbu-1 kernel: [1108474.585361] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
+Dec 28 15:58:19 solbu-1 udisksd[6749]: Error opening /etc/crypttab file: Failed to open file '/etc/crypttab': No such file or directory (g-file-error-quark, 4)
+Dec 28 15:58:19 solbu-1 udisksd[6749]: Error opening /etc/crypttab file: Failed to open file '/etc/crypttab': No such file or directory (g-file-error-quark, 4)
+Dec 28 15:58:19 solbu-1 udisksd[6749]: Error opening /etc/crypttab file: Failed to open file '/etc/crypttab': No such file or directory (g-file-error-quark, 4)
+Dec 28 15:58:19 solbu-1 udisksd[6749]: Error opening /etc/crypttab file: Failed to open file '/etc/crypttab': No such file or directory (g-file-error-quark, 4)
+Dec 28 15:58:19 solbu-1 udisksd[6749]: Error opening /etc/crypttab file: Failed to open file '/etc/crypttab': No such file or directory (g-file-error-quark, 4)
+Dec 28 15:58:19 solbu-1 udisksd[6749]: Error opening /etc/crypttab file: Failed to open file '/etc/crypttab': No such file or directory (g-file-error-quark, 4)
+=============
+
+The udisksd mesages floods in for as long as the usb key is plugged in to the system, and stops only when I remove the key.
+But the key still works flawlessly on mdv2010.2.
+
+So, now what. Should I file this as a bug?
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+&gt;<i> The udisksd mesages floods in for as long as the usb key is plugged in to the system, and stops only when I remove the key.
+</I>
+If I create an empty &#171;/etc/crypttab&#187; file, the flooding stops, and the key eventually show up after perhaps a minute.
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+Continuing the usbkey saga, I discovered another bug that I can't resolve.
+I have an external drive and a usbkey that I attach to my desktop systems. Both have fstab entries, identified by UUID, and its worked nice for the last 2 years.
+
+When I plug in the usbkey, I can mount it as a reguklar user, but I cannot unmount it. The error message says that only root can do that.
+The fstab entry is this:
+==
+UUID=0893-1889 /media/usbbrikke vfat nosuid,noexec,dmask=022,fmask=133,uid=500,noauto,user,iocharset=utf8 0 0
+==
+It is the same entry on the mdv2010.2 and mga2 systems, and it works on mdv but not on mga2.
+
+Does anyone know why this fstab entry allow me to mount the patition but deny me the right to umount it?
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+<PRE>2012/12/28 Maurice Batey &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 19:34:31 -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I opened the Networkcenter again and the same message apeared:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unable to find network interface for selected device (using wl driver)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've been through all that on a netbook with Broadcom BCM43225 and
+</I>&gt;<i> running fully-updated Mageia-3-A2.
+</I>&gt;<i> I now have solid WiFi after starting to use NetworkManager, which I
+</I>&gt;<i> installed with the following instructions:
+</I>
+After reading messages from numerous users who are using Broadcom
+chips I get the impression that it does not depemd on the chip or the
+driver or using network manager or not or which kernel, it seems tp
+depemd on ALL of it. Until MGA2 my Broadcom only worked outside of
+gnome and after explicitely uninstalling network manager.
+Another user told his same chip pnly works with network manager, a
+third one a different story - and all are talking about the sa,e
+kernel amd the same MGA version and the same Broadcom 4312. It's not
+only Mageia, trying Debian, Ubuntu, openSuse, Mint and a few others
+including Mageia, only 2 of them were able to get it to run longer
+than from one boot to the next. I'll never ever buy that chip again
+but everywhere you ask peope keep telling you it's ok to buy this
+hardware for Linux - mine even came with SLED preinstalled.
+
+Ok, so much to let out steam after I woke up in a storm of feathers
+because some how I had torn my bed cover last night. 2 minutes after I
+started to clean up the dust bowl in my sleeping room my hoover
+turned belly up (motor seems overheated) and spread all the feathers
+and dust all over the place. So pls forgive me the short rant about a
+hardware whith a problem.
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> It's not
+</I>&gt;<i> only Mageia, trying Debian, Ubuntu, openSuse, Mint and a few others
+</I>&gt;<i> including Mageia, only 2 of them were able to get it to run longer
+</I>&gt;<i> than from one boot to the next.
+</I>
+ On the same netbook I also installed Ubuntu 12.01 and Mint 13 KDE.
+
+With both of them, they operated the Broadcom WiFi perfectly 'out of
+the box' - no fuss, no mention of 'looking for...', it just worked.
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+&gt;<i> When I plug in the usbkey, I can mount it as a reguklar user, but I cannot unmount it. The error message says that only root can do that.
+</I>&gt;<i> The fstab entry is this:
+</I>&gt;<i> ==
+</I>&gt;<i> UUID=0893-1889 /media/usbbrikke vfat nosuid,noexec,dmask=022,fmask=133,uid=500,noauto,user,iocharset=utf8 0 0
+</I>&gt;<i> ==
+</I>
+Change the user option to users.
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3533">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3533</A>
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+&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund skrev 27.12.2012 17:01:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Theese are exactly the same as the official beta1 isos,
+</I>&gt;<i> with only exceptions are the broadcom-wl tests:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * No broadcom-wl drivers on iso, and no &quot;wl&quot; entries in ldetect-lst:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-no-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/">http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/people/tmb/mga3-beta1-wl-test/Mageia-3-beta1-no-wl-LiveCD-KDE4-en-i586-CD/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>So i used this iso to test.
+
+At first i saw such device reported for wifi connections:
+
+Wireless (Wi-Fi)
+Broadcom Corporation BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n
+
+Clicking on it prompted to install wl stuff. So no luck at first.
+
+Then i checked dmesg and saw that b43 was loaded.
+
+I ran rmmod on these modules: b43, brcmsmac, bcma
+
+After that i blacklisted b43 in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-mga.conf and reloaded bcma.
+
+Now i saw new interface wlan0 and i was able to configure it. But connection test failed.
+
+I think it failed because wpa_supplicant was in bad mood. As i couldn't restart LiveCD i
+just ran &quot;service network restart&quot;. After that my laptop connected automatically and network
+was usable.
+
+So if wrong modules are blocked and correct ones loaded then everything seems to work.
+
+Output of lspcidrake -v:
+wl : Broadcom Corporation|BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n [NETWORK_OTHER] (vendor:14e4 device:4353
+subv:1028 subd:000e) (rev: 01)
+
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+Sander
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:15:16 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> only Mageia, trying Debian, Ubuntu, openSuse, Mint and a few others
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> including Mageia, only 2 of them were able to get it to run longer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> than from one boot to the next.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On the same netbook I also installed Ubuntu 12.01 and Mint 13 KDE.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With both of them, they operated the Broadcom WiFi perfectly 'out of
+</I>&gt;<i> the box' - no fuss, no mention of 'looking for...', it just worked.
+</I>
+Yes. And with MAG1 and MAG2 and Mdv 2010.x it operated out of the box
+here, no fuss, no mention of looking for. it just worked. Same netbook
+worked with openSuse but never with network manager nor with Gnome.
+And now it does not work with MGA3 and (after all this testing MGA3)
+it does not work anymore with MGA2. using the same software as a
+couple of weeks ago. So I get the impression that something else was
+changed, not just the version of the os.
+
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have updated the db, but urpmf glibcompat.h doesn't give me a hint to
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+</I>&gt;<i> Many projects have a file called glibcompat.h, which one do you want?
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+I have a funny issue with acpid as it is started under systemd (on mga2)
+
+I have a little script on my laptop in /etc/acpi/actions that starts
+
+xset -display dpms force off
+
+or
+
+xset -display dpms force on
+
+according to the lid state. That commands used to work in the
+pre-systemd era but now does nothing when acpid is started by systemd.
+
+Now, if I start acpid manually from a terminal it works, I can only see
+some eventual permission isssue with cggroup, Any idea how I could debug
+this?
+
+Cheers,
+Chris.
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+&gt;<i> mitya &lt;mitya&gt; 3.2-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 334668
+</I>&gt;<i> - Fix build
+</I>&gt;<i> - Cleanup, split apidocs to separate package
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + kamil &lt;kamil&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> - get rid of %clean
+</I>&gt;<i> - remove P1, merged upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> - update Version and Release tago to 3.2 and 1
+</I>&gt;<i> - new version 3.2
+</I>Can you also rebuild packages depending of llvm ?
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+&gt;<i> Le lundi 24 d&#233;cembre 2012 12:49:23 mitya a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mitya &lt;mitya&gt; 3.2-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 334668
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Fix build
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Cleanup, split apidocs to separate package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + kamil &lt;kamil&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - get rid of %clean
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - remove P1, merged upstream
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - update Version and Release tago to 3.2 and 1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - new version 3.2
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you also rebuild packages depending of llvm ?
+</I>
+AFAICT neither mesa 9.0 nor 9.1 (snapshots) build with llvm 3.2. Instead,
+the &quot;r600&quot; llvm branch needs to be used for mesa 9.1, which is not in sync
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Balcaen John wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le lundi 24 d&#233;cembre 2012 12:49:23 mitya a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mitya &lt;mitya&gt; 3.2-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 334668
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Fix build
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Cleanup, split apidocs to separate package
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + kamil &lt;kamil&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - get rid of %clean
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - remove P1, merged upstream
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - update Version and Release tago to 3.2 and 1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - new version 3.2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can you also rebuild packages depending of llvm ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> AFAICT neither mesa 9.0 nor 9.1 (snapshots) build with llvm 3.2.
+</I>&gt;<i> Instead, the &quot;r600&quot; llvm branch needs to be used for mesa 9.1, which
+</I>&gt;<i> is not in sync with the 3.2 release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Christiaan
+</I>There is also a problem with opengtl, upstream supports only LLVM 3.0
+and 3.1 (nothing new in their Version Control).
+But there were promises to fix these packages (there was a code
+reorganization in LLVM 3.2, changed file names etc.).
+
+If moving software to llvm 3.2 isn't simply possible, then could we fork
+our llvm package and produce llvm31 and llvm (= 3.2)?
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+Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On 29.12.2012 12:19, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Balcaen John wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Le lundi 24 d&#233;cembre 2012 12:49:23 mitya a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; mitya &lt;mitya&gt; 3.2-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; + Revision: 334668
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - Fix build
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - Cleanup, split apidocs to separate package
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; + kamil &lt;kamil&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - get rid of %clean
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - remove P1, merged upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - update Version and Release tago to 3.2 and 1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - new version 3.2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Can you also rebuild packages depending of llvm ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; AFAICT neither mesa 9.0 nor 9.1 (snapshots) build with llvm 3.2.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Instead, the &quot;r600&quot; llvm branch needs to be used for mesa 9.1,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; which is not in sync with the 3.2 release.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Christiaan
+</I>&gt;<i> There is also a problem with opengtl, upstream supports only LLVM 3.0
+</I>&gt;<i> and 3.1 (nothing new in their Version Control).
+</I>&gt;<i> But there were promises to fix these packages (there was a code
+</I>&gt;<i> reorganization in LLVM 3.2, changed file names etc.).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If moving software to llvm 3.2 isn't simply possible, then could we
+</I>&gt;<i> fork our llvm package and produce llvm31 and llvm (= 3.2)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+This is a bit off topic, but if it's possible and we decide to provide
+llvm31, then please do the importing right/properly and do a
+'svn cp' from correct llvm revision in SVN to keep revision history etc
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+&gt;<i> never with network manager
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+ That's interesting. As I said earlier, NetworkManager was the only
+way I could get WiFi working on Mageia-3-Alpha2.
+ I rather like its interface, too.
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+So if some subsequent s/w update upsets Mageia-2's WiFi again I shall
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] ANN / RFT: glibc-2.17">tmb at mageia.org
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+ <I>Sat Dec 29 14:10:06 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+I'm thinking of using glibc-2.17 in Mageia 3,
+and I have been running it for 12+ hours here
+doing initial tests and it seems to work ok...
+
+So I'm asking for more tests from those brave enough :)
+
+
+NOTE!
+You must be prepared that you might have to downgrade
+back to 2.16 either manually, or by doing a full
+reinstall if we find much problems with the 2.17 tests.
+
+
+Now with the warning out of the way, here is the fun:
+<A HREF="http://tmb.mine.nu/Mageia/Cauldron/testing/glibc-2.17/">http://tmb.mine.nu/Mageia/Cauldron/testing/glibc-2.17/</A>
+<A HREF="http://tmb2.mine.nu/Mageia/Cauldron/testing/glibc-2.17/">http://tmb2.mine.nu/Mageia/Cauldron/testing/glibc-2.17/</A>
+
+- urpmi will complain about missing signatures,
+ but just ansver yes if you want to help testing...
+
+
+If tests work out nicely, I'll push it to core/release
+in some days...
+
+
+Arnaud, can you check the arm part if you have time ?
+
+the work is stored here for now:
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/glibc/branches/2.17/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/glibc/branches/2.17/</A>
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/locales/branches/2.17/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/locales/branches/2.17/</A>
+
+--
+Thomas
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+ <B>Guillaume Rousse</B>
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+<PRE>Enumerating the whole list of binary packages whose submission was
+rejected make the resulting mail subject unreadable, as soon as there is
+more than one subpackage.
+
+For instance, the lastest one I received was:
+
+Subject: Upload failed for lib64ini_config-devel-0.7.0-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+libref_array-devel-0.1.3-1.mga3.i586.rpm
+lib64path_utils-devel-0.2.1-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+lib64basicobjects0-0.1.0-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+ding-libs-debug-0.2.91-1.mga3.i586.rpm
+libref_array1-0.1.3-1.mga3.i586.rpm libini_config3-0.7.0-1.mga3.i586.rpm
+ding-libs-debug-0.2.91-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm libdhash1-0.4.3-1.mga3.i586.rpm
+lib64ini_config3-0.7.0-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+libini_config-devel-0.7.0-1.mga3.i586.rpm
+lib64ref_array-devel-0.1.3-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+lib64ref_array1-0.1.3-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+libcollection2-0.6.2-1.mga3.i586.rpm
+lib64basicobjects-devel-0.1.0-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+lib64path_utils1-0.2.1-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+lib64collection2-0.6.2-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+libpath_utils-devel-0.2.1-1.mga3.i586.rpm
+libbasicobjects-devel-0.1.0-1.mga3.i586.rpm
+libbasicobjects0-0.1.0-1.mga3.i586.rpm
+lib64dhash-devel-0.4.3-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+lib64dhash1-0.4.3-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm libdhash-devel-0.4.3-1.mga3.i586.rpm
+libcollection-devel-0.6.2-1.
+ mga3.i586.rpm libpath_utils1-0.2.1-1.mga3.i586.rpm
+lib64collection-devel-0.6.2-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+
+Using either the source package name, or even just &quot;submission error&quot;
+would work better.
+--
+BOFH excuse #262:
+
+Our POP server was kidnapped by a weasel.
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+ <B>Christiaan Welvaart</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mesa%209.1%20in%20mga3%20or%20revert%20to%20llvm%203.1%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.02.1212291646530.26607%40zem.cjw.nep%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mesa 9.1 in mga3 or revert to llvm 3.1?">cjw at daneel.dyndns.org
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+Since Mesa 9.0 apparently doesn't build with llvm 3.2 we are getting many
+build failures because mesa packages depend on libllvm3.1 which isn't
+available. I have llvm 3.2pre+amdgpu and mesa 9.1pre ready to upload which
+should fix those build problems. Gnome-shell and armagetron seem to work
+OK with them, for neverball I get
+<A HREF="https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58839">https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58839</A> but it still works
+(maybe with a lower framerate). Mesa 9.1 release is scheduled for february
+2013 AFAIK.
+
+So is there a reason why I should not upload these two packages?
+
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+ Christiaan
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+ <B>David Walser</B>
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+<PRE>D.Morgan wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Tomcat 5 is no longer maintained (and will be removed from upstream
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mirrors in a few days).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I guess we want to remove it from cauldron, but just wanted a confirmation :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was looking at (currently failing to build) apache-jasper-5.5.28 and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> noticed it can die with tomcat5
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> if you make sure all rpms that have it as BR still build this is OK for me
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> D.
+</I>
+There are also several security issues with the tomcat packages, and updates are needed:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8307">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8307</A>
+
+D Morgan - I e-mailed you about security issues in java packages and others you maintain last week, did you get it?
+
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+ <B>David Walser</B>
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+<PRE>Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Friday 28. December 2012 16.18, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The udisksd mesages floods in for as long as the usb key is plugged in to the system, and stops only when I remove the key.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If I create an empty &#171;/etc/crypttab&#187; file, the flooding stops, and the key eventually show up after perhaps a minute.
+</I>
+Does blacklisting the uas module and rebooting help? I have an external USB drive that worked fine in mga1 and didn't work at all in mga2
+until I did that.
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm thinking of using glibc-2.17 in Mageia 3,
+</I>&gt;<i> and I have been running it for 12+ hours here
+</I>&gt;<i> doing initial tests and it seems to work ok...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I'm asking for more tests from those brave enough :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> NOTE!
+</I>&gt;<i> You must be prepared that you might have to downgrade
+</I>&gt;<i> back to 2.16 either manually, or by doing a full
+</I>&gt;<i> reinstall if we find much problems with the 2.17 tests.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now with the warning out of the way, here is the fun:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://tmb.mine.nu/Mageia/Cauldron/testing/glibc-2.17/">http://tmb.mine.nu/Mageia/Cauldron/testing/glibc-2.17/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://tmb2.mine.nu/Mageia/Cauldron/testing/glibc-2.17/">http://tmb2.mine.nu/Mageia/Cauldron/testing/glibc-2.17/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - urpmi will complain about missing signatures,
+</I>&gt;<i> but just ansver yes if you want to help testing...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If tests work out nicely, I'll push it to core/release
+</I>&gt;<i> in some days...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Arnaud, can you check the arm part if you have time ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the work is stored here for now:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/glibc/branches/2.17/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/glibc/branches/2.17/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/locales/branches/2.17/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/locales/branches/2.17/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>Seems to work here on a 64bit Virtualbox
+
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+ <B>Thomas Spuhler</B>
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+cyr_systemd_helper
+However, it uses the runuser command which dropped in the latest coreutils and as a result the
+cyrus-imapd doesn't start anymore.
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+I know Colin has done some work on coreutils in mga2
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+Could we add a trigger to prevent unsigned packages from being uploaded?
+
+I've faced again bunch of unsigned packages.. and when I was trying to
+rebuild plexus-i18n against missing signature, with bumping the release
+- the build system said it's already built with that version [1].
+
+How is it possible? I have checked the history of this package.. and it
+was never released as the version in the build system.
+
+Am I missing something? Was there an attack and a package injection?
+
+Kamil
+
+[1]
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/plexus-i18n/current/SPECS/plexus-i18n.spec?r1=268801&amp;r2=335589">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/plexus-i18n/current/SPECS/plexus-i18n.spec?r1=268801&amp;r2=335589</A>
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could we add a trigger to prevent unsigned packages from being uploaded?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've faced again bunch of unsigned packages.. and when I was trying to
+</I>&gt;<i> rebuild plexus-i18n against missing signature, with bumping the release -
+</I>&gt;<i> the build system said it's already built with that version [1].
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How is it possible? I have checked the history of this package.. and it was
+</I>&gt;<i> never released as the version in the build system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Am I missing something? Was there an attack and a package injection?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kamil
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1]
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/plexus-i18n/current/SPECS/plexus-i18n.spec?r1=268801&amp;r2=335589">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/plexus-i18n/current/SPECS/plexus-i18n.spec?r1=268801&amp;r2=335589</A>
+</I>
+It seems someone manually uploaded the package on December 1st, after
+building it on a machine named karamel, this seems to be dmorgan's
+machine
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could we add a trigger to prevent unsigned packages from being uploaded?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've faced again bunch of unsigned packages.. and when I was trying to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rebuild plexus-i18n against missing signature, with bumping the release -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the build system said it's already built with that version [1].
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How is it possible? I have checked the history of this package.. and it was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> never released as the version in the build system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am I missing something? Was there an attack and a package injection?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Kamil
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [1]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/plexus-i18n/current/SPECS/plexus-i18n.spec?r1=268801&amp;r2=335589">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/plexus-i18n/current/SPECS/plexus-i18n.spec?r1=268801&amp;r2=335589</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems someone manually uploaded the package on December 1st, after
+</I>&gt;<i> building it on a machine named karamel, this seems to be dmorgan's
+</I>&gt;<i> machine
+</I>Thank you Pascal for your reply, so it was injected (in other words
+&quot;manually uploaded&quot;).
+
+I may understand that in some circumstances there is a need to do manual
+operations over our buildservers, but please for the sake of security
+and credibility of Mageia prohibit uploading locally built packages into
+the outside world, servers! Without it a user or developer cannot see if
+a local mirror (or someone in-the-middle) is injecting Trojan packages
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+&gt;<i> D.Morgan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Tomcat 5 is no longer maintained (and will be removed from upstream
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mirrors in a few days).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I guess we want to remove it from cauldron, but just wanted a confirmation :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I was looking at (currently failing to build) apache-jasper-5.5.28 and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> noticed it can die with tomcat5
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if you make sure all rpms that have it as BR still build this is OK for me
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> D.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are also several security issues with the tomcat packages, and updates are needed:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8307">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8307</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> D Morgan - I e-mailed you about security issues in java packages and others you maintain last week, did you get it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+just answered you :)
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 29.12.2012 20:11, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Could we add a trigger to prevent unsigned packages from being uploaded?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've faced again bunch of unsigned packages.. and when I was trying to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rebuild plexus-i18n against missing signature, with bumping the release -
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the build system said it's already built with that version [1].
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> How is it possible? I have checked the history of this package.. and it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> was
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> never released as the version in the build system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am I missing something? Was there an attack and a package injection?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Kamil
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [1]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/plexus-i18n/current/SPECS/plexus-i18n.spec?r1=268801&amp;r2=335589">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/plexus-i18n/current/SPECS/plexus-i18n.spec?r1=268801&amp;r2=335589</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It seems someone manually uploaded the package on December 1st, after
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> building it on a machine named karamel, this seems to be dmorgan's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> machine
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank you Pascal for your reply, so it was injected (in other words
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;manually uploaded&quot;).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I may understand that in some circumstances there is a need to do manual
+</I>&gt;<i> operations over our buildservers, but please for the sake of security and
+</I>&gt;<i> credibility of Mageia prohibit uploading locally built packages into the
+</I>&gt;<i> outside world, servers! Without it a user or developer cannot see if a local
+</I>&gt;<i> mirror (or someone in-the-middle) is injecting Trojan packages or not.
+</I>
+This is not supposed to happen but can be done temporarily by
+sysadmins (usually for some kind of bootstraping when you need the
+package to be on the mirrors to be able to upload it or another one it
+requires). It seems it was the case but dmorgan forgot to upload the
+correct package afterwards.
+
+We should definitely improve things so that this is logged and
+packages get signed when uploaded manually by admins.
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+<PRE>On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could we add a trigger to prevent unsigned packages from being uploaded?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've faced again bunch of unsigned packages.. and when I was trying to
+</I>&gt;<i> rebuild plexus-i18n against missing signature, with bumping the release -
+</I>&gt;<i> the build system said it's already built with that version [1].
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How is it possible? I have checked the history of this package.. and it was
+</I>&gt;<i> never released as the version in the build system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Am I missing something? Was there an attack and a package injection?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kamil
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1]
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/plexus-i18n/current/SPECS/plexus-i18n.spec?r1=268801&amp;r2=335589">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/plexus-i18n/current/SPECS/plexus-i18n.spec?r1=268801&amp;r2=335589</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+fixed
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+ <B>Felix Miata</B>
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+<PRE>On 2012-12-28 12:06 (GMT+0100) Florian Hubold composed:
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+&gt;<i> You should be able to install it via urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://silk.apana.org.au/pub/fcl/filecommander-2.40-release1_fedora10.i386.rpm">http://silk.apana.org.au/pub/fcl/filecommander-2.40-release1_fedora10.i386.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> or urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://silk.apana.org.au/pub/fcl/filecommander-2.40-release1_fedora10.x86_64.rpm">http://silk.apana.org.au/pub/fcl/filecommander-2.40-release1_fedora10.x86_64.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> for x86_64 system, but that doesn't mean that the package will necessarily work.
+</I>
+It pulled in also lib64cairomm, lib64pangomm, lib64atkmm &amp; lib64gtkmm, and
+works, as I expected, since such things shouldn't differ materially if at all
+among Fedora, openSUSE &amp; Mageia.
+
+&gt;<i> You can't add a Fedora/RHEL style repo as an urpmi repo, and as it only contains
+</I>&gt;<i> one package, which receives no updates, this is even quite useless.
+</I>
+It may go a very long time between updates, but it does happen now &amp; then. It
+was originally developed a couple of decades ago, so doesn't really need a
+lot of updating.
+--
+&quot;The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
+words are persuasive.&quot; Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
+
+ Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
+
+Felix Miata *** <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</A>
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:06 PM, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> D.Morgan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Tomcat 5 is no longer maintained (and will be removed from upstream
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mirrors in a few days).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I guess we want to remove it from cauldron, but just wanted a confirmation :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I was looking at (currently failing to build) apache-jasper-5.5.28 and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> noticed it can die with tomcat5
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> if you make sure all rpms that have it as BR still build this is OK for me
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> D.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There are also several security issues with the tomcat packages, and updates are needed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8307">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8307</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> D Morgan - I e-mailed you about security issues in java packages and others you maintain last week, did you get it?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> just answered you :)
+</I>
+Thanks, I guess I ended up in your Spam folder again. Hopefully you got my reply :o)
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+ <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B>
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+<PRE>On 29.12.2012 21:03, D.Morgan wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could we add a trigger to prevent unsigned packages from being uploaded?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've faced again bunch of unsigned packages.. and when I was trying to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rebuild plexus-i18n against missing signature, with bumping the release -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the build system said it's already built with that version [1].
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How is it possible? I have checked the history of this package.. and it was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> never released as the version in the build system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am I missing something? Was there an attack and a package injection?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Kamil
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [1]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/plexus-i18n/current/SPECS/plexus-i18n.spec?r1=268801&amp;r2=335589">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/plexus-i18n/current/SPECS/plexus-i18n.spec?r1=268801&amp;r2=335589</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> fixed
+</I>Thank you
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+ <B>Glen Ogilvie</B>
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+<PRE>On 28 December 2012 00:17, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Guillaume Rousse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 27/12/2012 11:29, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; It seems like the systemd way of starting would be:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; systemctl start openssh.service
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; But, then produces an error:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> /]# systemctl start openssh.service
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Running in chroot, ignoring request.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; So, Any thoughts on what is the recommended way, and I'll be happy to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; update the wiki to reflect this.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Last time I tried, I gave up after various attempts and now went back
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to the basics: running &quot;sshd&quot; and killing it to stop it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Maybe I'll fetch some old initscript.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I guess using a specific unit file, using builtin systemd chroot support,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; should help. See <A HREF="http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/changing-roots">http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/changing-roots</A> for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; details.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes having an unit outside of the chroot with
+</I>&gt;<i> RootDirectoryStartOnly=yes would probably help (I had tried the &quot;full
+</I>&gt;<i> system&quot; chroot and couldn't get it to work and gave up after an hour)
+</I>&gt;<i> but this is annoying to not be able to start a daemon from inside the
+</I>&gt;<i> chroot which is what I usually want to do.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Well, good to see I am not the only one that can't get the chroot to work
+anymore.
+So, I suggest, for the minute, I edit the wiki to explain that the chroot
+does not work.
+I am open to suggestions as to what it should recommend? maybe using a full
+virtual machine?
+
+What I have found so far is, using the two attached files, in the following
+locations:
+/lib/systemd/system/sshd-mageia3.service
+/usr/local/bin/setup-cauldron-chroot.sh
+
+setup fstab: echo 'none /mnt/chroot/cauldron/dev/pts devpts defaults 0 0'
+&gt;&gt;<i> /etc/fstab
+</I>
+Then, the chroot sshd can be started, using:
+systemctl enable sshd-mageia3.service
+systemctl start sshd-mageia3.service
+
+which will start a chroot, but.. it's not ideal.. It sees mount points
+from the host (/proc/mounts)
+and of course, processes.
+
+
+The recommended approach according to systemd, appears to be systemd-nspawn.
+This may be viable, when systemd-nspawn is updated beyond the version in
+Mageia 2.
+It does not currently work, because dbus won't start, see bug:
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=795038.">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=795038.</A> The work around
+mentioned is
+not supported in the version of systemd-nspawn that Mageia 2 uses. This
+looks like
+it would work for Mageia3.
+
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+&gt;<i> cjw &lt;cjw&gt; 9.1.0-0.git20121228.2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 336233
+</I>&gt;<i> - build osmesa separately again since this is still needed, with a workaround for the build problem
+</I>
+Can you or someone else resubmit libreoffice so that 4.0 can be build?
+Thanks
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+ <B>Felix Miata</B>
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+<PRE>VLC:
+Audio output failed:
+The audio device &quot;default&quot; could not be used:
+Connection refused.
+
+Is this typical of Mageia systems with Intel chipset/Realtek audio, or just a
+temporary problem with Cauldron and PLF apps? VLC in Fedora 18 on same system
+works fine. VLC audio troubleshooting is more difficult than otherwise
+because it can't be run as root without recompiling. As root, permissions
+trouble shouldn't occur.
+
+With the troubleshooting instructions from MCC sound troubleshooting
+converted to this script (with instructions from
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2899#c4">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2899#c4</A> added):
+<A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/sndts.sh">http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/sndts.sh</A>
+
+This output results:
+<A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/tsout.txt">http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/tsout.txt</A>
+
+Note there is no useful output from chkconfig, and that even though aumix is
+installed, /dev/dsp does not exist.
+
+Motherboard:
+<A HREF="http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=413#spec">http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=413#spec</A>
+
+Highlights:
+Chipset: Intel G41 / ICH7
+Realtek ALC662 6-Channel HD Audio
+
+Does maybe the Realtek distinguish my problem from
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2899">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2899</A> ?
+
+/var/log/dmesg tail:
+<A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/dmesg-big41-cauldron3.txt">http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/dmesg-big41-cauldron3.txt</A>
+
+Highlights from above:
+[ 11.012008] hda-intel: No response from codec, disabling MSI: last
+cmd=0x100f0000
+[ 12.014009] hda-intel: Codec #1 probe error; disabling it...
+
+rpm -qa | grep alsa:
+<A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/alsarpms-big41-cauldron3.txt">http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/alsarpms-big41-cauldron3.txt</A>
+
+lspcidrake -vv:
+<A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/lspcidrakevv-big41-cauldron3.txt">http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/lspcidrakevv-big41-cauldron3.txt</A>
+
+Highlight from above:
+snd_hda_intel : Intel Corporation|N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio
+Controller [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO_DEV] (vendor:8086 device:27d8 subv:1565
+subd:8218) (rev: 01)
+
+hwinfo --sound:
+<A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/hwinfosound-big41-cauldron3.txt">http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/hwinfosound-big41-cauldron3.txt</A>
+
+lsmod:
+<A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/lsmod-big41-cauldron3.txt">http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/lsmod-big41-cauldron3.txt</A>
+--
+&quot;The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
+words are persuasive.&quot; Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
+
+ Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
+
+Felix Miata *** <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</A>
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+&gt;<i> I'm thinking of using glibc-2.17 in Mageia 3,
+</I>&gt;<i> and I have been running it for 12+ hours here
+</I>&gt;<i> doing initial tests and it seems to work ok...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I'm asking for more tests from those brave enough :)
+</I>
+2 x86_64 machines updated (one AMD &amp; one Intel).
+No pb for now.
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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+&gt;<i> Now, if I start acpid manually from a terminal it works, I can only
+</I>&gt;<i> see some eventual permission isssue with cggroup, Any idea how I
+</I>&gt;<i> could debug this?
+</I>
+systemd starts daemons in a clean environment. I'm guessing some
+environment variables are missing. Most likely DISPLAY, maybe others.
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+ <B>Balcaen John</B>
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+
+Sorry for the delay, but work is quite busy thoses days.
+Anyway i'm pushing today KDE 4.9.95 aka KDE 4.10 RC1
+I did not test it against the new mesa because when i build initially cauldron
+was still using the old llvm.
+Hopefully everything should build smoothly.
+
+Regards,
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+ <B>Guillaume Rousse</B>
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+<PRE>This happens when building krb5:
+
+gcc -L../../lib -O2 -g -pipe -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fstack-protector
+--param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -fstack-protector-all -fomit-frame-pointer
+-march=i586 -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables
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+-Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--build-id
+-Wl,--enable-new-dtags -o t_export_name t_export_name.o common.o
+-lgssapi_krb5 -lkrb5 -lk5crypto -lcom_err -lkrb5support -lresolv -ldl
+common.o: file not recognized: File truncated
+collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
+
+Is there any kind of file size limit ?
+--
+BOFH excuse #436:
+
+Daemon escaped from pentagram
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+ <B>Guillaume Rousse</B>
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+<PRE>I can't suceed submitting metasploit, because of some rpmlint error:
+
+Submission errors, aborting:
+- metasploit-4.5-1.mga3:
+ - unexpanded-macro
+/usr/share/metasploit/lib/gemcache/ruby/1.9.1/gems/railties-3.2.8/lib/rails/generators/rails/plugin_new/templates/lib/%name%/engine.rb
+%name
+
+I did update rpmlint-mageia-policy a week ago (0.2.25), but the
+configuration used on the host running the check seems to still use the
+previous version. Do we need an explicit actions from sysadmins here ?
+--
+BOFH excuse #423:
+
+It's not RFC-822 compliant.
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20how%20to%20update%20mageia%20rpmlint%20configuration%20on%0A%20submission%20host%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C50E1AABE.7080406%40mageia.org%3E"
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+<PRE>Guillaume Rousse skrev 31.12.2012 16:24:
+&gt;<i> I can't suceed submitting metasploit, because of some rpmlint error:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Submission errors, aborting:
+</I>&gt;<i> - metasploit-4.5-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> - unexpanded-macro
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/metasploit/lib/gemcache/ruby/1.9.1/gems/railties-3.2.8/lib/rails/generators/rails/plugin_new/templates/lib/%name%/engine.rb
+</I>&gt;<i> %name
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did update rpmlint-mageia-policy a week ago (0.2.25), but the
+</I>&gt;<i> configuration used on the host running the check seems to still use the
+</I>&gt;<i> previous version. Do we need an explicit actions from sysadmins here ?
+</I>
+Yep.
+
+I'll check it out tonight unless any other sysadmin beats me to it....
+
+--
+Thomas
+
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> This happens when building krb5:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> gcc -L../../lib -O2 -g -pipe -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fstack-protector
+</I>&gt;<i> --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -fstack-protector-all -fomit-frame-pointer
+</I>&gt;<i> -march=i586 -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -I/usr/include/et
+</I>&gt;<i> -fPIC -pie -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-z,now -Wl,--as-needed -Wl,--no-undefined
+</I>&gt;<i> -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--build-id -Wl,--enable-new-dtags -o t_export_name
+</I>&gt;<i> t_export_name.o common.o -lgssapi_krb5 -lkrb5 -lk5crypto -lcom_err
+</I>&gt;<i> -lkrb5support -lresolv -ldl
+</I>&gt;<i> common.o: file not recognized: File truncated
+</I>&gt;<i> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there any kind of file size limit ?
+</I>
+It could be a disk full but I would rather think of some problem with
+parallel build and the file not being fully written at that time
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>Thomas Backlund skrev 31.12.2012 17:09:
+&gt;<i> Guillaume Rousse skrev 31.12.2012 16:24:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can't suceed submitting metasploit, because of some rpmlint error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Submission errors, aborting:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - metasploit-4.5-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - unexpanded-macro
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/share/metasploit/lib/gemcache/ruby/1.9.1/gems/railties-3.2.8/lib/rails/generators/rails/plugin_new/templates/lib/%name%/engine.rb
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %name
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I did update rpmlint-mageia-policy a week ago (0.2.25), but the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> configuration used on the host running the check seems to still use the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> previous version. Do we need an explicit actions from sysadmins here ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll check it out tonight unless any other sysadmin beats me to it....
+</I>
+New rpmlint and policy now in place.
+
+Also -debuginfo packages should now be ok and the changes for /run,
+and checking for udev, systemd and tmpfiles location are now in effect
+
+
+--
+Thomas
+
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+I have just installed mga3 beta1 on a brand new machine for my folks and
+everything went fantastically fine in a first try. Congrats.
+
+So I decided to test other options and managed to end up in an infinite
+loop that hung the installer. There how to do it:
+
+1) choose additional sources with http
+
+2) accept the default mirror chosen (which was in Germany).
+Unfortunately that default mirror was very very slow
+
+3) Many packages got downloaded from that mirror with an estimated time
+of 3-4 hours, so I clicked on &quot;Annuler&quot; (french install)
+
+4) The installer went on with only the DVD package but ended up being
+frozen soon after.
+
+Playing with the CTRL+ALT+Fi, the do loop was due to pango packages
+already installed from the network before the &quot;annuler&quot; and more recent
+that the ones on the DVD.
+
+The log were incessantly showing:
+
+&quot;Chosen pano-1.32.4... for pango
+more recent pango-1.32.5... is installed
+but does not provide 1.32.4...
+Selecting pango 1.32.4...
+Unselecting pango 1.32.4...&quot;
+
+and the same message repeted forever
+
+Hope it helps!
+
+Cheers,
+Chris
+
+
+
+
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+&gt;<i> systemd starts daemons in a clean environment. I'm guessing some
+</I>&gt;<i> environment variables are missing. Most likely DISPLAY, maybe others.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I see, although I tried to set up the DISPLAY variable without success :-/
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+Thanks,
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+<PRE>pterjan skrev 31.12.2012 23:58:
+&gt;<i> Name : iurt Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version : 0.6.16 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release : 1.mga3 Build Date: Mon Dec 31 22:55:20 2012
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> pterjan &lt;pterjan&gt; 0.6.16-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 336797
+</I>&gt;<i> - 0.6.16
+</I>&gt;<i> * fix chroot cleaning in parallel mode
+</I>&gt;<i> * fix for some packages missing from status file
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+btw, 0.6.15 broke the BS on valstar with this error:
+
+Not a HASH reference at /usr/bin/emi line 195.
+
+So I rolled back to 0.6.13 that was in use before.
+
+Is this package safe to install ?
+
+--
+Thomas
+
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+</A><A NAME="20557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020601.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020720.html">[Mageia-dev] libperl location
+</A><A NAME="20720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020751.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020817.html">[Mageia-dev] *.so files are text in some packages messing up provides (was: Re: abrt+libreport)
+</A><A NAME="20817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020831.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020940.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020948.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020950.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020438.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020441.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020446.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020448.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020450.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020452.html">[Mageia-dev] NOTE: dont upgrade / submit ppl to the bs/mirrors...
+</A><A NAME="20452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020458.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20458">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020461.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020490.html">[Mageia-dev] NOTE: dont upgrade / submit ppl to the bs/mirrors...
+</A><A NAME="20490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020494.html">[Mageia-dev] NOTE: dont upgrade / submit ppl to the bs/mirrors...
+</A><A NAME="20494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020523.html">[Mageia-dev] filesystem update
+</A><A NAME="20523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020524.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020534.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to install cauldron in a vmware vm
+</A><A NAME="20534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020619.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-userspace-headers-3.7.0-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020622.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020623.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020628.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020689.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020703.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release x11-driver-video-ati-7.0.0-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020837.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020941.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020957.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020959.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020962.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020965.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020970.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020972.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020977.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020983.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020986.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020987.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020989.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020995.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020999.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021023.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN / RFT: glibc-2.17
+</A><A NAME="21023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021047.html">[Mageia-dev] how to update mageia rpmlint configuration on submission host ?
+</A><A NAME="21047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021049.html">[Mageia-dev] how to update mageia rpmlint configuration on submission host ?
+</A><A NAME="21049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021052.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release iurt-0.6.16-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020647.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020653.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020666.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020898.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020456.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20456">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020481.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020491.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020499.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020514.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020515.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020516.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020517.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020535.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020536.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020538.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020567.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020652.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Why I am erasing Mageia from my system
+</A><A NAME="20652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020738.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020745.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020805.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020818.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020822.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020836.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021007.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021012.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021022.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020571.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020573.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6562] Allow setting some env variables to define and default to setting PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL and PERL_AUTOINSTALL to --skipdeps
+</A><A NAME="20573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020575.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6562] Allow setting some env variables to define and default to setting PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL and PERL_AUTOINSTALL to --skipdeps
+</A><A NAME="20575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020633.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6573] Add script to rebuild a list of packages
+</A><A NAME="20633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020675.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020685.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-3.7.0-0.rc8.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020726.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020729.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6689] Get rid of cache
+</A><A NAME="20729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020825.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020506.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020544.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020961.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020964.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020968.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020971.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020973.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020978.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020980.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020985.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020988.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020990.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021003.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021011.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021015.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020457.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20457">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020707.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6666] foo
+</A><A NAME="20707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020721.html">[Mageia-dev] [Cauldron] Error at munin installation
+</A><A NAME="20721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020723.html">[Mageia-dev] [Cauldron] Error at munin installation
+</A><A NAME="20723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020789.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl(B::C) installation problem
+</A><A NAME="20789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020638.html">[Mageia-dev] about ruby updates and some broken dependancies
+</A><A NAME="20638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020637.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020641.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020645.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-obsolete-3-37.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020654.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020665.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020730.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020735.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020749.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020840.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] The RPM Spec Lingo - Call for Contributions
+</A><A NAME="20840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020839.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020842.html">[Mageia-dev] The &#171;task-obsolete&#187; debate [Was: Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree]
+</A><A NAME="20842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020852.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: more ruby packages
+</A><A NAME="20852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020856.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: more ruby packages
+</A><A NAME="20856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020634.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020657.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [321297] imported package nemo
+</A><A NAME="20657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020659.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [321297] imported package nemo
+</A><A NAME="20659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020871.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020584.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020603.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Vicente Castillo Corbella
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020560.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020561.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020563.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020578.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020579.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020785.html">[Mageia-dev] msec su for wheel
+</A><A NAME="20785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020786.html">[Mageia-dev] systemctl closelog httpd.service not working
+</A><A NAME="20786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020787.html">[Mageia-dev] samba reload does not reread /etc/group
+</A><A NAME="20787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020853.html">[Mageia-dev] File Perms on ftp server bad
+</A><A NAME="20853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020880.html">[Mageia-dev] More fun with openvpn
+</A><A NAME="20880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020667.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020694.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [329082] - mod_siren is not optional
+</A><A NAME="20694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020700.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release initscripts-9.41-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020997.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="20997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021033.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="21033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021035.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020440.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020485.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020497.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20497">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020541.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020617.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020636.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release CardManager-1-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020780.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020938.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020798.html">[Mageia-dev] NVIDIA CUDA 5 has landed
+</A><A NAME="20798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020936.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020943.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021017.html">[Mageia-dev] acpid under systemd
+</A><A NAME="21017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021050.html">[Mageia-dev] DVD install feedback for mga3 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="21050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021051.html">[Mageia-dev] acpid under systemd
+</A><A NAME="21051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020783.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020849.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gamin-0.1.10-9.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020918.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020974.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020606.html">[Mageia-dev] failure to install a src.rpm in a user build directory
+</A><A NAME="20606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020763.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020766.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020646.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020658.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020663.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020769.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020792.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl(B::C) installation problem
+</A><A NAME="20792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020813.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] The RPM Spec Lingo - Call for Contributions
+</A><A NAME="20813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020454.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20454">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lee Forest
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020533.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to install cauldron in a vmware vm
+</A><A NAME="20533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lee Forest
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020559.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020592.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020717.html">[Mageia-dev] problems with latest update
+</A><A NAME="20717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020922.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020861.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020439.html">[Mageia-dev] Utter frustration
+</A><A NAME="20439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020496.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20496">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020546.html">[Mageia-dev] NetworkManager vs initscripts
+</A><A NAME="20546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020725.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020857.html">[Mageia-dev] rsync problem with distrib-coffee
+</A><A NAME="20857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020859.html">[Mageia-dev] rsync problem with distrib-coffee
+</A><A NAME="20859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021000.html">[Mageia-dev] glibcompat.h?
+</A><A NAME="21000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021016.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 28, Issue 77
+</A><A NAME="21016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020823.html">[Mageia-dev] hplip broken?
+</A><A NAME="20823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrien Guichard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020507.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020508.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal to drop avant-window-navigator
+</A><A NAME="20508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020512.html">[Mageia-dev] remove the udunits 1.x generation
+</A><A NAME="20512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020556.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020565.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020676.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020677.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020679.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020696.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020697.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020709.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020713.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020732.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020736.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020737.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020741.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release audacious-plugins-3.3.3-1.mga3.tainted
+</A><A NAME="20741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020746.html">[Mageia-dev] /var/run after /usr/move
+</A><A NAME="20746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020747.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020754.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020756.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020757.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020764.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020765.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020767.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020779.html">[Mageia-dev] service dm restart go on tty3
+</A><A NAME="20779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020793.html">[Mageia-dev] samba reload does not reread /etc/group
+</A><A NAME="20793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020794.html">[Mageia-dev] systemctl closelog httpd.service not working
+</A><A NAME="20794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020795.html">[Mageia-dev] msec su for wheel
+</A><A NAME="20795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020807.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020808.html">[Mageia-dev] /var/run after /usr/move
+</A><A NAME="20808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020814.html">[Mageia-dev] *.so files are text in some packages messing up provides (was: Re: abrt+libreport)
+</A><A NAME="20814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020824.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020826.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020449.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020670.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release mplayer-1.1-7.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020704.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release x11-driver-video-ati-7.0.0-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020879.html">[Mageia-dev] Changelog entries - why not delimited by release/build?
+</A><A NAME="20879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020960.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020476.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020537.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to install cauldron in a vmware vm
+</A><A NAME="20537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020693.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020727.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020744.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020884.html">[Mageia-dev] lxsession needs consolekit to shut down the computer directly
+</A><A NAME="20884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020924.html">[Mageia-dev] installation: deselect attempts cause select
+</A><A NAME="20924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020881.html">[Mageia-dev] DBus and automount problem with KDE
+</A><A NAME="20881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Curtis Hildebrand
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020887.html">[Mageia-dev] DBus and automount problem with KDE
+</A><A NAME="20887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020899.html">[Mageia-dev] Installing Beta 1
+</A><A NAME="20899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021013.html">[Mageia-dev] fstab issue - can mount but not umount as user, ehh, what?
+</A><A NAME="21013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020915.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020942.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021005.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="21005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021006.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="21006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020483.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages for review
+</A><A NAME="20483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020501.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages for review
+</A><A NAME="20501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020897.html">[Mageia-dev] ARM port?
+</A><A NAME="20897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020463.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020806.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021018.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release llvm-3.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021044.html">[Mageia-dev] Pushing KDE 4.9.95
+</A><A NAME="21044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020503.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020568.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020590.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove libtunepimp
+</A><A NAME="20590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020662.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020845.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: [Bug 8426] mlocate - cron should use idle i/o priority
+</A><A NAME="20845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020453.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020815.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mika Laitio
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020821.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mika Laitio
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020599.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020612.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dosemu-1.4.0.7-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020631.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] What about installing dhclient on default installation?
+</A><A NAME="20631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020719.html">[Mageia-dev] problems with latest update
+</A><A NAME="20719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020474.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020502.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020642.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-obsolete-3-37.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020796.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020916.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020928.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020947.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021014.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020844.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: [Bug 8426] mlocate - cron should use idle i/o priority
+</A><A NAME="20844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020876.html">[Mageia-dev] Changelog entries - why not delimited by release/build?
+</A><A NAME="20876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020447.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020470.html">[Mageia-dev] python-tagpy build fail under cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020649.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020819.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020545.html">[Mageia-dev] NetworkManager vs initscripts
+</A><A NAME="20545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020576.html">[Mageia-dev] Video players
+</A><A NAME="20576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020800.html">[Mageia-dev] NVIDIA CUDA 5 has landed
+</A><A NAME="20800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020630.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020442.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: shadow-utils &amp; util-linux with new default paths in testing
+</A><A NAME="20442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020526.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020607.html">[Mageia-dev] unhappy with partitioning step results (&amp; no BS key)
+</A><A NAME="20607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020923.html">[Mageia-dev] installation: deselect attempts cause select
+</A><A NAME="20923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020925.html">[Mageia-dev] installation: deselect attempts cause select
+</A><A NAME="20925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020933.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="20933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020949.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="20949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021036.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="21036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021041.html">[Mageia-dev] Obsolete MCC Sound Configuration troubleshooting instructions
+</A><A NAME="21041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020478.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi --download-all --no-clean does not work any more
+</A><A NAME="20478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020484.html">[Mageia-dev] sankore versioning (and naming) problem
+</A><A NAME="20484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020487.html">[Mageia-dev] sankore versioning (and naming) problem
+</A><A NAME="20487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020500.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi --download-all --no-clean does not work any more
+</A><A NAME="20500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020627.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020629.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020820.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020489.html">[Mageia-dev] Asia-Pacific packager newbie needs mentor
+</A><A NAME="20489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020650.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Why I am erasing Mageia from my system
+</A><A NAME="20650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020651.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020673.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020945.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021039.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="21039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020468.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020549.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020776.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>PhilippeDidier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020482.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020777.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020613.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020672.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020683.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020739.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6573] Add script to rebuild a list of packages
+</A><A NAME="20739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020784.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020772.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire REVILLET
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020775.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire REVILLET
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020832.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire REVILLET
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020504.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020492.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20492">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020505.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020518.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020519.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020520.html">[Mageia-dev] filesystem update
+</A><A NAME="20520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020553.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release snort-2.9.4-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020554.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020572.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release bind-9.9.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020595.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020597.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020600.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020643.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020680.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020690.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020692.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020715.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020722.html">[Mageia-dev] [Cauldron] Error at munin installation
+</A><A NAME="20722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020748.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release qscintilla-2.7-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020770.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020774.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020782.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release youri-check-0.10.2-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020827.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020848.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release phpmyadmin-3.5.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020851.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020867.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020903.html">[Mageia-dev] linkingerror with gtk+ 2: missing X11 dep ?
+</A><A NAME="20903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020909.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release traceroute-2.0.19-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020917.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020946.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="20946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020954.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021024.html">[Mageia-dev] unreadable subject in submission error messages
+</A><A NAME="21024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021045.html">[Mageia-dev] strange error on build host
+</A><A NAME="21045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021046.html">[Mageia-dev] how to update mageia rpmlint configuration on submission host ?
+</A><A NAME="21046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020459.html">[Mageia-dev] eboard dead and broken package
+</A><A NAME="20459">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020464.html">[Mageia-dev] remove the udunits 1.x generation
+</A><A NAME="20464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020475.html">[Mageia-dev] Please help to fix build ecl and gcl
+</A><A NAME="20475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020477.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal to drop avant-window-navigator
+</A><A NAME="20477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020486.html">[Mageia-dev] sankore versioning (and naming) problem
+</A><A NAME="20486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020498.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020527.html">[Mageia-dev] Please help to fix build ecl and gcl
+</A><A NAME="20527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020860.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020864.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020865.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020944.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020984.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021020.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release llvm-3.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021030.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021032.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021038.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020610.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020562.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020582.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020589.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020604.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020615.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] easy tasks for junior packagers
+</A><A NAME="20615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020621.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020639.html">[Mageia-dev] about ruby updates and some broken dependancies
+</A><A NAME="20639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020640.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020644.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020648.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020674.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020678.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020682.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020684.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020698.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020733.html">[Mageia-dev] The &#171;task-obsolete&#187; debate [Was: Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree]
+</A><A NAME="20733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020773.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020781.html">[Mageia-dev] rootcerts - $arch dependant noarch package?
+</A><A NAME="20781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020797.html">[Mageia-dev] msec su for wheel
+</A><A NAME="20797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020875.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020878.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020890.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020891.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020892.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021008.html">[Mageia-dev] MGA2 - weird usbkey udisksd error
+</A><A NAME="21008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021009.html">[Mageia-dev] MGA2 - weird usbkey udisksd error
+</A><A NAME="21009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021010.html">[Mageia-dev] fstab issue - can mount but not umount as user, ehh, what?
+</A><A NAME="21010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020460.html">[Mageia-dev] eboard dead and broken package
+</A><A NAME="20460">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020462.html">[Mageia-dev] filesystem update
+</A><A NAME="20462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020465.html">[Mageia-dev] unavailable synthesis.hdlist.cz on mirror disables the repo
+</A><A NAME="20465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020624.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade mga2 to cauldron (beta 1) experience
+</A><A NAME="20624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020664.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020702.html">[Mageia-dev] libperl location
+</A><A NAME="20702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020734.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020753.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020803.html">[Mageia-dev] Glibc problem
+</A><A NAME="20803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020804.html">[Mageia-dev] sysadmin please remove package
+</A><A NAME="20804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020810.html">[Mageia-dev] Glibc problem
+</A><A NAME="20810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020896.html">[Mageia-dev] Installing Beta 1
+</A><A NAME="20896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020966.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020967.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020993.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020994.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020998.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021001.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021002.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021028.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN / RFT: glibc-2.17
+</A><A NAME="21028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021029.html">[Mageia-dev] Need help on cyrus-imapd
+</A><A NAME="21029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020511.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020513.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020525.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020529.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020543.html">[Mageia-dev] requiring postgres-devel
+</A><A NAME="20543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020558.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020564.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020569.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020570.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020574.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6562] Allow setting some env variables to define and default to setting PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL and PERL_AUTOINSTALL to --skipdeps
+</A><A NAME="20574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020583.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020706.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6666] foo
+</A><A NAME="20706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020708.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6663] para
+</A><A NAME="20708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020728.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6689] Get rid of cache
+</A><A NAME="20728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020731.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6689] Get rid of cache
+</A><A NAME="20731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020809.html">[Mageia-dev] Glibc problem
+</A><A NAME="20809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020868.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020873.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020874.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020905.html">[Mageia-dev] linkingerror with gtk+ 2: missing X11 dep ?
+</A><A NAME="20905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020913.html">[Mageia-dev] Spaces in doc filenames
+</A><A NAME="20913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020914.html">[Mageia-dev] Spaces in doc filenames
+</A><A NAME="20914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020920.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020921.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020926.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020927.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020929.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020931.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020932.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020935.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020951.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020952.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020955.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020956.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020958.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020969.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020975.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020979.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020991.html">[Mageia-dev] libffi.so.6 pb ?
+</A><A NAME="20991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020996.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="20996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021004.html">[Mageia-dev] glibcompat.h?
+</A><A NAME="21004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021031.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021034.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021048.html">[Mageia-dev] strange error on build host
+</A><A NAME="21048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020743.html">[Mageia-dev] /var/run after /usr/move
+</A><A NAME="20743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020788.html">[Mageia-dev] Blender don't start
+</A><A NAME="20788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020855.html">[Mageia-dev] File Perms on ftp server bad
+</A><A NAME="20855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020858.html">[Mageia-dev] rsync problem with distrib-coffee
+</A><A NAME="20858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020863.html">[Mageia-dev] rsync problem with distrib-coffee
+</A><A NAME="20863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020488.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stan Thomas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020532.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stan Thomas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020443.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020444.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: shadow-utils &amp; util-linux with new default paths in testing
+</A><A NAME="20444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020445.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020495.html">[Mageia-dev] filesystem update
+</A><A NAME="20495">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020550.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release pcre-8.32-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020551.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020585.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020586.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6583] use Test::Compile for more automation
+</A><A NAME="20586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020587.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020588.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020593.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove libtunepimp
+</A><A NAME="20593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020594.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020596.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020598.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020609.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] easy tasks for junior packagers
+</A><A NAME="20609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020611.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dosemu-1.4.0.7-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020614.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020618.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-userspace-headers-3.7.0-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020625.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020635.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-3.7.0-0.rc8.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020656.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release edje_viewer-1.1.0-0.r80477.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020686.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020687.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-3.7.0-0.rc8.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020688.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release mplayer-1.1-7.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020691.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020695.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020699.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release initscripts-9.41-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020701.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release drakx-installer-stage2-15.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020705.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020712.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020724.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6689] Get rid of cache
+</A><A NAME="20724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020758.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020760.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gtk-engines2-2.20.2-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020771.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release pcre-8.32-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020802.html">[Mageia-dev] r8169 eth0 link up/down
+</A><A NAME="20802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020816.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020833.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020834.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020838.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020850.html">[Mageia-dev] pyc and pyo files are not included in some python packages
+</A><A NAME="20850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020854.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: more ruby packages
+</A><A NAME="20854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020862.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020866.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020872.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020893.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release edbus-1.7.2-0.r81625.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020894.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020902.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020904.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020906.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020907.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libssh2-1.4.3-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020908.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release calibre-0.9.10-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020939.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021040.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release mesa-9.1.0-0.git20121228.2.mga3.tainted
+</A><A NAME="21040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021042.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN / RFT: glibc-2.17
+</A><A NAME="21042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020555.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020577.html">[Mageia-dev] Video players
+</A><A NAME="20577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020626.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020661.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="20661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020718.html">[Mageia-dev] problems with latest update
+</A><A NAME="20718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020759.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020791.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release transmission-2.74-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021043.html">[Mageia-dev] acpid under systemd
+</A><A NAME="21043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020742.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release qscintilla-2.7-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020750.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release flamerobin-0.9.2-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020829.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020900.html">[Mageia-dev] ARM port?
+</A><A NAME="20900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020930.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020934.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021021.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release llvm-3.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020471.html">[Mageia-dev] Improving communications
+</A><A NAME="20471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020473.html">[Mageia-dev] Asia-Pacific packager newbie needs mentor
+</A><A NAME="20473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020882.html">[Mageia-dev] [atelier-discuss] music&amp;sounds
+</A><A NAME="20882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020912.html">[Mageia-dev] Live DVD beta 1 report
+</A><A NAME="20912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020466.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020493.html">[Mageia-dev] NOTE: dont upgrade / submit ppl to the bs/mirrors...
+</A><A NAME="20493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020632.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] What about installing dhclient on default installation?
+</A><A NAME="20632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020668.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020812.html">[Mageia-dev] NVIDIA CUDA 5 has landed
+</A><A NAME="20812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020886.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020919.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release traceroute-2.0.19-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021026.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="21026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021027.html">[Mageia-dev] MGA2 - weird usbkey udisksd error
+</A><A NAME="21027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021037.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="21037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020437.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020467.html">[Mageia-dev] Improving communications
+</A><A NAME="20467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020469.html">[Mageia-dev] python-tagpy build fail under cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020472.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages for review
+</A><A NAME="20472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020768.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020835.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020877.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020889.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020580.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove libtunepimp
+</A><A NAME="20580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020581.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020591.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove libtunepimp
+</A><A NAME="20591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020605.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020608.html">[Mageia-dev] Let's drop evolution-sharp
+</A><A NAME="20608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020681.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020740.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release audacious-plugins-3.3.3-1.mga3.tainted
+</A><A NAME="20740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020755.html">[Mageia-dev] Why no totem-plugin-arte in Mageia ?
+</A><A NAME="20755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020761.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gtk-engines2-2.20.2-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020790.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020869.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020455.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20455">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020669.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release mplayer-1.1-7.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020762.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gtk-engines2-2.20.2-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020870.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020910.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020963.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020976.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020982.html">[Mageia-dev] libffi.so.6 pb ?
+</A><A NAME="20982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021019.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release llvm-3.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021025.html">[Mageia-dev] Mesa 9.1 in mga3 or revert to llvm 3.1?
+</A><A NAME="21025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020828.html">[Mageia-dev] hplip broken?
+</A><A NAME="20828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020479.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Wood
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020509.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020510.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020552.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] urpmq --not-available (was renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo)
+</A><A NAME="20552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020778.html">[Mageia-dev] service dm restart go on tty3
+</A><A NAME="20778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020801.html">[Mageia-dev] r8169 eth0 link up/down
+</A><A NAME="20801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020811.html">[Mageia-dev] r8169 eth0 link up/down
+</A><A NAME="20811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020895.html">[Mageia-dev] ARM port?
+</A><A NAME="20895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>magnus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020901.html">[Mageia-dev] ARM port?
+</A><A NAME="20901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>magnus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020451.html">[Mageia-dev] python-tagpy build fail under cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020752.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020841.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020981.html">[Mageia-dev] libffi.so.6 pb ?
+</A><A NAME="20981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020566.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="20566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020530.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to install cauldron in a vmware vm
+</A><A NAME="20530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020602.html">[Mageia-dev] failure to install a src.rpm in a user build directory
+</A><A NAME="20602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020620.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020843.html">[Mageia-dev] pyc and pyo files are not included in some python packages
+</A><A NAME="20843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020883.html">[Mageia-dev] lxsession needs consolekit to shut down the computer directly
+</A><A NAME="20883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020885.html">[Mageia-dev] lxsession needs consolekit to shut down the computer directly
+</A><A NAME="20885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020888.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020655.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020660.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020671.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020616.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020710.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6573] Add script to rebuild a list of packages
+</A><A NAME="20710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020711.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020714.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020716.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020953.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020539.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020540.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020542.html">[Mageia-dev] requiring postgres-devel
+</A><A NAME="20542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020799.html">[Mageia-dev] requiring postgres-devel
+</A><A NAME="20799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020830.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020846.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020847.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020911.html">[Mageia-dev] Live DVD beta 1 report
+</A><A NAME="20911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020937.html">[Mageia-dev] Live DVD beta 1 report
+</A><A NAME="20937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020992.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Dec 31 23:48:34 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Dec 31 23:48:53 CET 2012</i>
+ <p>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>December 2012 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Dec 1 00:27:13 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Dec 31 23:48:34 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 616<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020437.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020438.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020439.html">[Mageia-dev] Utter frustration
+</A><A NAME="20439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020440.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020441.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020442.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: shadow-utils &amp; util-linux with new default paths in testing
+</A><A NAME="20442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020443.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020444.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: shadow-utils &amp; util-linux with new default paths in testing
+</A><A NAME="20444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020445.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020446.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020447.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020448.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020449.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020450.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020453.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020451.html">[Mageia-dev] python-tagpy build fail under cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020452.html">[Mageia-dev] NOTE: dont upgrade / submit ppl to the bs/mirrors...
+</A><A NAME="20452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020454.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20454">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lee Forest
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020455.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20455">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020456.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20456">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020457.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20457">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020458.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20458">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020459.html">[Mageia-dev] eboard dead and broken package
+</A><A NAME="20459">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020460.html">[Mageia-dev] eboard dead and broken package
+</A><A NAME="20460">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020461.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020462.html">[Mageia-dev] filesystem update
+</A><A NAME="20462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020463.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020464.html">[Mageia-dev] remove the udunits 1.x generation
+</A><A NAME="20464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020465.html">[Mageia-dev] unavailable synthesis.hdlist.cz on mirror disables the repo
+</A><A NAME="20465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020466.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020467.html">[Mageia-dev] Improving communications
+</A><A NAME="20467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020468.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020469.html">[Mageia-dev] python-tagpy build fail under cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020470.html">[Mageia-dev] python-tagpy build fail under cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020471.html">[Mageia-dev] Improving communications
+</A><A NAME="20471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020472.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages for review
+</A><A NAME="20472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020473.html">[Mageia-dev] Asia-Pacific packager newbie needs mentor
+</A><A NAME="20473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020474.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020479.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Wood
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020475.html">[Mageia-dev] Please help to fix build ecl and gcl
+</A><A NAME="20475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020476.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020478.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi --download-all --no-clean does not work any more
+</A><A NAME="20478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020477.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal to drop avant-window-navigator
+</A><A NAME="20477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020480.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020481.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020482.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020483.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages for review
+</A><A NAME="20483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020484.html">[Mageia-dev] sankore versioning (and naming) problem
+</A><A NAME="20484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020485.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020486.html">[Mageia-dev] sankore versioning (and naming) problem
+</A><A NAME="20486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020487.html">[Mageia-dev] sankore versioning (and naming) problem
+</A><A NAME="20487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020488.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stan Thomas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020489.html">[Mageia-dev] Asia-Pacific packager newbie needs mentor
+</A><A NAME="20489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020490.html">[Mageia-dev] NOTE: dont upgrade / submit ppl to the bs/mirrors...
+</A><A NAME="20490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020491.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020492.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20492">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020493.html">[Mageia-dev] NOTE: dont upgrade / submit ppl to the bs/mirrors...
+</A><A NAME="20493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020494.html">[Mageia-dev] NOTE: dont upgrade / submit ppl to the bs/mirrors...
+</A><A NAME="20494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020495.html">[Mageia-dev] filesystem update
+</A><A NAME="20495">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020496.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20496">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020497.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20497">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020498.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020499.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020500.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi --download-all --no-clean does not work any more
+</A><A NAME="20500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020501.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages for review
+</A><A NAME="20501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020502.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020503.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020504.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020505.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020506.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020507.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020508.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal to drop avant-window-navigator
+</A><A NAME="20508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020509.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020510.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020511.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020512.html">[Mageia-dev] remove the udunits 1.x generation
+</A><A NAME="20512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020513.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020514.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020515.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020516.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020517.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020518.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020519.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020520.html">[Mageia-dev] filesystem update
+</A><A NAME="20520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020521.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020522.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020523.html">[Mageia-dev] filesystem update
+</A><A NAME="20523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020524.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020526.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020525.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020527.html">[Mageia-dev] Please help to fix build ecl and gcl
+</A><A NAME="20527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020528.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020529.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020530.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to install cauldron in a vmware vm
+</A><A NAME="20530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020531.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020532.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stan Thomas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020533.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to install cauldron in a vmware vm
+</A><A NAME="20533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lee Forest
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020534.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to install cauldron in a vmware vm
+</A><A NAME="20534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020535.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020536.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020538.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020537.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to install cauldron in a vmware vm
+</A><A NAME="20537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020539.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020540.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020541.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020542.html">[Mageia-dev] requiring postgres-devel
+</A><A NAME="20542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020543.html">[Mageia-dev] requiring postgres-devel
+</A><A NAME="20543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020544.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020545.html">[Mageia-dev] NetworkManager vs initscripts
+</A><A NAME="20545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020549.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020546.html">[Mageia-dev] NetworkManager vs initscripts
+</A><A NAME="20546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020547.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020548.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020550.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release pcre-8.32-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020551.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020552.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] urpmq --not-available (was renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo)
+</A><A NAME="20552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020553.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release snort-2.9.4-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020554.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020555.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020560.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020556.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020557.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020558.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020559.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020561.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020563.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020562.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020564.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020565.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020566.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="20566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020567.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020568.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020569.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020570.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020571.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020572.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release bind-9.9.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020573.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6562] Allow setting some env variables to define and default to setting PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL and PERL_AUTOINSTALL to --skipdeps
+</A><A NAME="20573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020574.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6562] Allow setting some env variables to define and default to setting PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL and PERL_AUTOINSTALL to --skipdeps
+</A><A NAME="20574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020575.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6562] Allow setting some env variables to define and default to setting PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL and PERL_AUTOINSTALL to --skipdeps
+</A><A NAME="20575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020576.html">[Mageia-dev] Video players
+</A><A NAME="20576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020577.html">[Mageia-dev] Video players
+</A><A NAME="20577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020578.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020579.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020580.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove libtunepimp
+</A><A NAME="20580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020581.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020582.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020583.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020584.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020585.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020586.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6583] use Test::Compile for more automation
+</A><A NAME="20586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020587.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020588.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020589.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020590.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove libtunepimp
+</A><A NAME="20590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020591.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove libtunepimp
+</A><A NAME="20591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020592.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020593.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove libtunepimp
+</A><A NAME="20593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020594.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020595.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020596.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020597.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020598.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020599.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020600.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020601.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020602.html">[Mageia-dev] failure to install a src.rpm in a user build directory
+</A><A NAME="20602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020603.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Vicente Castillo Corbella
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020604.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020605.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020606.html">[Mageia-dev] failure to install a src.rpm in a user build directory
+</A><A NAME="20606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020607.html">[Mageia-dev] unhappy with partitioning step results (&amp; no BS key)
+</A><A NAME="20607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020608.html">[Mageia-dev] Let's drop evolution-sharp
+</A><A NAME="20608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020609.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] easy tasks for junior packagers
+</A><A NAME="20609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020610.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020611.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dosemu-1.4.0.7-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020612.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dosemu-1.4.0.7-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020613.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020616.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020614.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020615.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] easy tasks for junior packagers
+</A><A NAME="20615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020617.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020618.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-userspace-headers-3.7.0-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020619.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-userspace-headers-3.7.0-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020620.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020621.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020622.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020623.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020624.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade mga2 to cauldron (beta 1) experience
+</A><A NAME="20624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020625.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020626.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020627.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020628.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020629.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020630.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020631.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] What about installing dhclient on default installation?
+</A><A NAME="20631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020632.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] What about installing dhclient on default installation?
+</A><A NAME="20632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020634.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020633.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6573] Add script to rebuild a list of packages
+</A><A NAME="20633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020635.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-3.7.0-0.rc8.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020636.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release CardManager-1-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020638.html">[Mageia-dev] about ruby updates and some broken dependancies
+</A><A NAME="20638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020637.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020639.html">[Mageia-dev] about ruby updates and some broken dependancies
+</A><A NAME="20639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020640.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020641.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020643.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020642.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-obsolete-3-37.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020644.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020645.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-obsolete-3-37.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020646.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020647.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020648.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020649.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020650.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Why I am erasing Mageia from my system
+</A><A NAME="20650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020651.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020652.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Why I am erasing Mageia from my system
+</A><A NAME="20652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020653.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020654.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020655.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020656.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release edje_viewer-1.1.0-0.r80477.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020657.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [321297] imported package nemo
+</A><A NAME="20657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020658.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020659.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [321297] imported package nemo
+</A><A NAME="20659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020660.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020661.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="20661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020662.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020663.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020664.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020665.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020666.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020667.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020668.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020669.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release mplayer-1.1-7.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020670.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release mplayer-1.1-7.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020671.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020672.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020673.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020674.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020675.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020676.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020677.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020678.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020679.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020680.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020681.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020682.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020683.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020684.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020685.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-3.7.0-0.rc8.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020686.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020687.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-3.7.0-0.rc8.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020688.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release mplayer-1.1-7.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020689.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020690.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020691.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020692.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020693.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020694.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [329082] - mod_siren is not optional
+</A><A NAME="20694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020695.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020696.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020697.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020698.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020699.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release initscripts-9.41-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020700.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release initscripts-9.41-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020701.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release drakx-installer-stage2-15.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020702.html">[Mageia-dev] libperl location
+</A><A NAME="20702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020703.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release x11-driver-video-ati-7.0.0-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020704.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release x11-driver-video-ati-7.0.0-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020705.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020706.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6666] foo
+</A><A NAME="20706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020707.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6666] foo
+</A><A NAME="20707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020708.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6663] para
+</A><A NAME="20708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020709.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020710.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6573] Add script to rebuild a list of packages
+</A><A NAME="20710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020711.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020712.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020713.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020714.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020715.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020716.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020717.html">[Mageia-dev] problems with latest update
+</A><A NAME="20717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020719.html">[Mageia-dev] problems with latest update
+</A><A NAME="20719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020718.html">[Mageia-dev] problems with latest update
+</A><A NAME="20718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020720.html">[Mageia-dev] libperl location
+</A><A NAME="20720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020721.html">[Mageia-dev] [Cauldron] Error at munin installation
+</A><A NAME="20721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020722.html">[Mageia-dev] [Cauldron] Error at munin installation
+</A><A NAME="20722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020723.html">[Mageia-dev] [Cauldron] Error at munin installation
+</A><A NAME="20723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020724.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6689] Get rid of cache
+</A><A NAME="20724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020725.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020726.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020727.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020728.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6689] Get rid of cache
+</A><A NAME="20728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020729.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6689] Get rid of cache
+</A><A NAME="20729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020730.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020731.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6689] Get rid of cache
+</A><A NAME="20731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020732.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020733.html">[Mageia-dev] The &#171;task-obsolete&#187; debate [Was: Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree]
+</A><A NAME="20733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020734.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020735.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020736.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020737.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020738.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020739.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6573] Add script to rebuild a list of packages
+</A><A NAME="20739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020740.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release audacious-plugins-3.3.3-1.mga3.tainted
+</A><A NAME="20740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020741.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release audacious-plugins-3.3.3-1.mga3.tainted
+</A><A NAME="20741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020742.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release qscintilla-2.7-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020743.html">[Mageia-dev] /var/run after /usr/move
+</A><A NAME="20743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020744.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020745.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020746.html">[Mageia-dev] /var/run after /usr/move
+</A><A NAME="20746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020747.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020748.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release qscintilla-2.7-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020749.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020750.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release flamerobin-0.9.2-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020751.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020752.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020753.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020754.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020755.html">[Mageia-dev] Why no totem-plugin-arte in Mageia ?
+</A><A NAME="20755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020756.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020757.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020758.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020759.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020760.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gtk-engines2-2.20.2-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020761.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gtk-engines2-2.20.2-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020762.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gtk-engines2-2.20.2-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020763.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020764.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020765.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020766.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020767.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020768.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020769.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020770.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020771.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release pcre-8.32-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020772.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire REVILLET
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020773.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020774.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020775.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire REVILLET
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020776.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>PhilippeDidier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020777.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020778.html">[Mageia-dev] service dm restart go on tty3
+</A><A NAME="20778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020779.html">[Mageia-dev] service dm restart go on tty3
+</A><A NAME="20779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020780.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020781.html">[Mageia-dev] rootcerts - $arch dependant noarch package?
+</A><A NAME="20781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020782.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release youri-check-0.10.2-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020783.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020784.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020785.html">[Mageia-dev] msec su for wheel
+</A><A NAME="20785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020786.html">[Mageia-dev] systemctl closelog httpd.service not working
+</A><A NAME="20786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020787.html">[Mageia-dev] samba reload does not reread /etc/group
+</A><A NAME="20787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020788.html">[Mageia-dev] Blender don't start
+</A><A NAME="20788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020789.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl(B::C) installation problem
+</A><A NAME="20789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020790.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020792.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl(B::C) installation problem
+</A><A NAME="20792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020791.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release transmission-2.74-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020793.html">[Mageia-dev] samba reload does not reread /etc/group
+</A><A NAME="20793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020794.html">[Mageia-dev] systemctl closelog httpd.service not working
+</A><A NAME="20794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020795.html">[Mageia-dev] msec su for wheel
+</A><A NAME="20795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020796.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020797.html">[Mageia-dev] msec su for wheel
+</A><A NAME="20797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020798.html">[Mageia-dev] NVIDIA CUDA 5 has landed
+</A><A NAME="20798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020799.html">[Mageia-dev] requiring postgres-devel
+</A><A NAME="20799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020800.html">[Mageia-dev] NVIDIA CUDA 5 has landed
+</A><A NAME="20800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020801.html">[Mageia-dev] r8169 eth0 link up/down
+</A><A NAME="20801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020802.html">[Mageia-dev] r8169 eth0 link up/down
+</A><A NAME="20802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020803.html">[Mageia-dev] Glibc problem
+</A><A NAME="20803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020804.html">[Mageia-dev] sysadmin please remove package
+</A><A NAME="20804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020805.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020806.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020807.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020808.html">[Mageia-dev] /var/run after /usr/move
+</A><A NAME="20808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020809.html">[Mageia-dev] Glibc problem
+</A><A NAME="20809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020810.html">[Mageia-dev] Glibc problem
+</A><A NAME="20810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020811.html">[Mageia-dev] r8169 eth0 link up/down
+</A><A NAME="20811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020812.html">[Mageia-dev] NVIDIA CUDA 5 has landed
+</A><A NAME="20812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020813.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] The RPM Spec Lingo - Call for Contributions
+</A><A NAME="20813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020814.html">[Mageia-dev] *.so files are text in some packages messing up provides (was: Re: abrt+libreport)
+</A><A NAME="20814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020815.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mika Laitio
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020816.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020817.html">[Mageia-dev] *.so files are text in some packages messing up provides (was: Re: abrt+libreport)
+</A><A NAME="20817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020818.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020819.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020820.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020821.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mika Laitio
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020822.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020823.html">[Mageia-dev] hplip broken?
+</A><A NAME="20823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrien Guichard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020824.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020825.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020826.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020827.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020828.html">[Mageia-dev] hplip broken?
+</A><A NAME="20828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020829.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020830.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020831.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020832.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire REVILLET
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020833.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020834.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020835.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020836.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020837.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020838.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020840.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] The RPM Spec Lingo - Call for Contributions
+</A><A NAME="20840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020839.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020841.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020842.html">[Mageia-dev] The &#171;task-obsolete&#187; debate [Was: Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree]
+</A><A NAME="20842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020843.html">[Mageia-dev] pyc and pyo files are not included in some python packages
+</A><A NAME="20843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020844.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: [Bug 8426] mlocate - cron should use idle i/o priority
+</A><A NAME="20844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020845.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: [Bug 8426] mlocate - cron should use idle i/o priority
+</A><A NAME="20845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020846.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020847.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020848.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release phpmyadmin-3.5.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020849.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gamin-0.1.10-9.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020850.html">[Mageia-dev] pyc and pyo files are not included in some python packages
+</A><A NAME="20850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020851.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020852.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: more ruby packages
+</A><A NAME="20852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020853.html">[Mageia-dev] File Perms on ftp server bad
+</A><A NAME="20853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020854.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: more ruby packages
+</A><A NAME="20854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020855.html">[Mageia-dev] File Perms on ftp server bad
+</A><A NAME="20855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020856.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: more ruby packages
+</A><A NAME="20856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020857.html">[Mageia-dev] rsync problem with distrib-coffee
+</A><A NAME="20857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020858.html">[Mageia-dev] rsync problem with distrib-coffee
+</A><A NAME="20858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020859.html">[Mageia-dev] rsync problem with distrib-coffee
+</A><A NAME="20859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020860.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020861.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020862.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020863.html">[Mageia-dev] rsync problem with distrib-coffee
+</A><A NAME="20863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020864.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020865.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020866.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020867.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020868.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020869.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020870.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020871.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020872.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020873.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020874.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020875.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020876.html">[Mageia-dev] Changelog entries - why not delimited by release/build?
+</A><A NAME="20876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020877.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020878.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020879.html">[Mageia-dev] Changelog entries - why not delimited by release/build?
+</A><A NAME="20879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020880.html">[Mageia-dev] More fun with openvpn
+</A><A NAME="20880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020881.html">[Mageia-dev] DBus and automount problem with KDE
+</A><A NAME="20881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Curtis Hildebrand
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020882.html">[Mageia-dev] [atelier-discuss] music&amp;sounds
+</A><A NAME="20882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020883.html">[Mageia-dev] lxsession needs consolekit to shut down the computer directly
+</A><A NAME="20883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020884.html">[Mageia-dev] lxsession needs consolekit to shut down the computer directly
+</A><A NAME="20884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020885.html">[Mageia-dev] lxsession needs consolekit to shut down the computer directly
+</A><A NAME="20885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020886.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020887.html">[Mageia-dev] DBus and automount problem with KDE
+</A><A NAME="20887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020888.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020889.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020890.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020891.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020892.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020893.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release edbus-1.7.2-0.r81625.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020894.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020895.html">[Mageia-dev] ARM port?
+</A><A NAME="20895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>magnus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020896.html">[Mageia-dev] Installing Beta 1
+</A><A NAME="20896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020897.html">[Mageia-dev] ARM port?
+</A><A NAME="20897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020898.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020899.html">[Mageia-dev] Installing Beta 1
+</A><A NAME="20899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020900.html">[Mageia-dev] ARM port?
+</A><A NAME="20900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020901.html">[Mageia-dev] ARM port?
+</A><A NAME="20901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>magnus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020902.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020903.html">[Mageia-dev] linkingerror with gtk+ 2: missing X11 dep ?
+</A><A NAME="20903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020904.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020905.html">[Mageia-dev] linkingerror with gtk+ 2: missing X11 dep ?
+</A><A NAME="20905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020906.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020907.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libssh2-1.4.3-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020908.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release calibre-0.9.10-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020909.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release traceroute-2.0.19-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020910.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020911.html">[Mageia-dev] Live DVD beta 1 report
+</A><A NAME="20911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020912.html">[Mageia-dev] Live DVD beta 1 report
+</A><A NAME="20912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020913.html">[Mageia-dev] Spaces in doc filenames
+</A><A NAME="20913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020914.html">[Mageia-dev] Spaces in doc filenames
+</A><A NAME="20914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020915.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020916.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020917.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020918.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020919.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release traceroute-2.0.19-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020920.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020921.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020922.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020923.html">[Mageia-dev] installation: deselect attempts cause select
+</A><A NAME="20923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020924.html">[Mageia-dev] installation: deselect attempts cause select
+</A><A NAME="20924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020925.html">[Mageia-dev] installation: deselect attempts cause select
+</A><A NAME="20925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020926.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020927.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020928.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020929.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020930.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020931.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020932.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020933.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="20933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020934.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020935.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020936.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020937.html">[Mageia-dev] Live DVD beta 1 report
+</A><A NAME="20937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020938.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020939.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020940.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020941.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020942.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020943.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020944.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020945.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020946.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="20946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020947.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020948.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020949.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="20949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020950.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020951.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020952.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020953.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020954.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020955.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020956.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020957.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020958.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020959.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020960.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020961.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020962.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020963.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020964.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020965.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020966.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020967.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020968.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020969.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020970.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020971.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020972.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020973.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020974.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020975.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020976.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020977.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020978.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020979.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020980.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020981.html">[Mageia-dev] libffi.so.6 pb ?
+</A><A NAME="20981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020982.html">[Mageia-dev] libffi.so.6 pb ?
+</A><A NAME="20982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020983.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020984.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020985.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020986.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020987.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020988.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020989.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020990.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020991.html">[Mageia-dev] libffi.so.6 pb ?
+</A><A NAME="20991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020992.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020993.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020994.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020995.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020996.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="20996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020997.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="20997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020998.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020999.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021000.html">[Mageia-dev] glibcompat.h?
+</A><A NAME="21000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021001.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021002.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021003.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021004.html">[Mageia-dev] glibcompat.h?
+</A><A NAME="21004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021005.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="21005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021006.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="21006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021007.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021008.html">[Mageia-dev] MGA2 - weird usbkey udisksd error
+</A><A NAME="21008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021009.html">[Mageia-dev] MGA2 - weird usbkey udisksd error
+</A><A NAME="21009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021010.html">[Mageia-dev] fstab issue - can mount but not umount as user, ehh, what?
+</A><A NAME="21010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021011.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021012.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021013.html">[Mageia-dev] fstab issue - can mount but not umount as user, ehh, what?
+</A><A NAME="21013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021014.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021015.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021016.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 28, Issue 77
+</A><A NAME="21016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021017.html">[Mageia-dev] acpid under systemd
+</A><A NAME="21017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021018.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release llvm-3.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021019.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release llvm-3.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021020.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release llvm-3.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021021.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release llvm-3.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021022.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021023.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN / RFT: glibc-2.17
+</A><A NAME="21023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021024.html">[Mageia-dev] unreadable subject in submission error messages
+</A><A NAME="21024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021025.html">[Mageia-dev] Mesa 9.1 in mga3 or revert to llvm 3.1?
+</A><A NAME="21025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021026.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="21026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021027.html">[Mageia-dev] MGA2 - weird usbkey udisksd error
+</A><A NAME="21027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021028.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN / RFT: glibc-2.17
+</A><A NAME="21028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021029.html">[Mageia-dev] Need help on cyrus-imapd
+</A><A NAME="21029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021030.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021031.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021032.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021033.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="21033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021034.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021035.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021036.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="21036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021037.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="21037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021038.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021039.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="21039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021040.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release mesa-9.1.0-0.git20121228.2.mga3.tainted
+</A><A NAME="21040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021041.html">[Mageia-dev] Obsolete MCC Sound Configuration troubleshooting instructions
+</A><A NAME="21041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021042.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN / RFT: glibc-2.17
+</A><A NAME="21042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021043.html">[Mageia-dev] acpid under systemd
+</A><A NAME="21043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021044.html">[Mageia-dev] Pushing KDE 4.9.95
+</A><A NAME="21044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021045.html">[Mageia-dev] strange error on build host
+</A><A NAME="21045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021046.html">[Mageia-dev] how to update mageia rpmlint configuration on submission host ?
+</A><A NAME="21046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021047.html">[Mageia-dev] how to update mageia rpmlint configuration on submission host ?
+</A><A NAME="21047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021048.html">[Mageia-dev] strange error on build host
+</A><A NAME="21048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021049.html">[Mageia-dev] how to update mageia rpmlint configuration on submission host ?
+</A><A NAME="21049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021050.html">[Mageia-dev] DVD install feedback for mga3 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="21050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021051.html">[Mageia-dev] acpid under systemd
+</A><A NAME="21051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021052.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release iurt-0.6.16-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Dec 31 23:48:34 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Dec 31 23:48:53 CET 2012</i>
+ <p>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>December 2012 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Dec 1 00:27:13 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Dec 31 23:48:34 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 616<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020817.html">[Mageia-dev] *.so files are text in some packages messing up provides (was: Re: abrt+libreport)
+</A><A NAME="20817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020814.html">[Mageia-dev] *.so files are text in some packages messing up provides (was: Re: abrt+libreport)
+</A><A NAME="20814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020743.html">[Mageia-dev] /var/run after /usr/move
+</A><A NAME="20743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020746.html">[Mageia-dev] /var/run after /usr/move
+</A><A NAME="20746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020808.html">[Mageia-dev] /var/run after /usr/move
+</A><A NAME="20808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020609.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] easy tasks for junior packagers
+</A><A NAME="20609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020615.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] easy tasks for junior packagers
+</A><A NAME="20615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020833.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020834.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020837.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020838.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020894.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020813.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] The RPM Spec Lingo - Call for Contributions
+</A><A NAME="20813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020840.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] The RPM Spec Lingo - Call for Contributions
+</A><A NAME="20840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020882.html">[Mageia-dev] [atelier-discuss] music&amp;sounds
+</A><A NAME="20882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020721.html">[Mageia-dev] [Cauldron] Error at munin installation
+</A><A NAME="20721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020722.html">[Mageia-dev] [Cauldron] Error at munin installation
+</A><A NAME="20722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020723.html">[Mageia-dev] [Cauldron] Error at munin installation
+</A><A NAME="20723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020572.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release bind-9.9.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020908.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release calibre-0.9.10-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020636.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release CardManager-1-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020611.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dosemu-1.4.0.7-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020612.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dosemu-1.4.0.7-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020701.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release drakx-installer-stage2-15.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020893.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release edbus-1.7.2-0.r81625.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020656.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release edje_viewer-1.1.0-0.r80477.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020750.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release flamerobin-0.9.2-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020849.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gamin-0.1.10-9.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020760.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gtk-engines2-2.20.2-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020761.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gtk-engines2-2.20.2-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020699.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release initscripts-9.41-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020700.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release initscripts-9.41-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020635.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-3.7.0-0.rc8.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020685.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-3.7.0-0.rc8.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020687.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-3.7.0-0.rc8.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020618.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-userspace-headers-3.7.0-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020619.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-userspace-headers-3.7.0-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020907.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libssh2-1.4.3-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021018.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release llvm-3.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021020.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release llvm-3.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020669.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release mplayer-1.1-7.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020670.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release mplayer-1.1-7.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020688.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release mplayer-1.1-7.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020550.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release pcre-8.32-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020771.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release pcre-8.32-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020848.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release phpmyadmin-3.5.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020742.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release qscintilla-2.7-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020748.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release qscintilla-2.7-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020553.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release snort-2.9.4-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020642.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-obsolete-3-37.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020909.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release traceroute-2.0.19-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020919.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release traceroute-2.0.19-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020791.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release transmission-2.74-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020825.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020826.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020827.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020831.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020886.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020851.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020782.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release youri-check-0.10.2-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020762.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gtk-engines2-2.20.2-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021019.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release llvm-3.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021021.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release llvm-3.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020645.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-obsolete-3-37.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020829.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020740.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release audacious-plugins-3.3.3-1.mga3.tainted
+</A><A NAME="20740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020741.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release audacious-plugins-3.3.3-1.mga3.tainted
+</A><A NAME="20741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021040.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release mesa-9.1.0-0.git20121228.2.mga3.tainted
+</A><A NAME="21040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021052.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release iurt-0.6.16-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020703.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release x11-driver-video-ati-7.0.0-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020704.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release x11-driver-video-ati-7.0.0-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020898.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020902.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020657.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [321297] imported package nemo
+</A><A NAME="20657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020659.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [321297] imported package nemo
+</A><A NAME="20659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020694.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [329082] - mod_siren is not optional
+</A><A NAME="20694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020443.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020447.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020448.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020449.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020450.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020453.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020454.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20454">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lee Forest
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020455.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20455">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020507.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020510.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020511.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020513.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020522.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020525.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020528.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020529.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020531.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020551.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020562.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020564.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020565.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020552.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] urpmq --not-available (was renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo)
+</A><A NAME="20552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020631.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] What about installing dhclient on default installation?
+</A><A NAME="20631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020632.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] What about installing dhclient on default installation?
+</A><A NAME="20632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020621.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020440.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020485.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020541.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020617.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020626.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020630.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020573.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6562] Allow setting some env variables to define and default to setting PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL and PERL_AUTOINSTALL to --skipdeps
+</A><A NAME="20573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020575.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6562] Allow setting some env variables to define and default to setting PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL and PERL_AUTOINSTALL to --skipdeps
+</A><A NAME="20575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020574.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6562] Allow setting some env variables to define and default to setting PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL and PERL_AUTOINSTALL to --skipdeps
+</A><A NAME="20574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020633.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6573] Add script to rebuild a list of packages
+</A><A NAME="20633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020710.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6573] Add script to rebuild a list of packages
+</A><A NAME="20710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020739.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6573] Add script to rebuild a list of packages
+</A><A NAME="20739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020585.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020587.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020594.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020595.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020596.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020597.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020598.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020600.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020586.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6583] use Test::Compile for more automation
+</A><A NAME="20586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020686.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020690.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020691.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020692.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020705.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020708.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6663] para
+</A><A NAME="20708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020706.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6666] foo
+</A><A NAME="20706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020707.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6666] foo
+</A><A NAME="20707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020724.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6689] Get rid of cache
+</A><A NAME="20724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020728.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6689] Get rid of cache
+</A><A NAME="20728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020729.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6689] Get rid of cache
+</A><A NAME="20729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020731.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6689] Get rid of cache
+</A><A NAME="20731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020638.html">[Mageia-dev] about ruby updates and some broken dependancies
+</A><A NAME="20638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020639.html">[Mageia-dev] about ruby updates and some broken dependancies
+</A><A NAME="20639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020747.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020758.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020759.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020764.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020807.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021017.html">[Mageia-dev] acpid under systemd
+</A><A NAME="21017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021043.html">[Mageia-dev] acpid under systemd
+</A><A NAME="21043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021051.html">[Mageia-dev] acpid under systemd
+</A><A NAME="21051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021023.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN / RFT: glibc-2.17
+</A><A NAME="21023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021028.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN / RFT: glibc-2.17
+</A><A NAME="21028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021042.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN / RFT: glibc-2.17
+</A><A NAME="21042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020442.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: shadow-utils &amp; util-linux with new default paths in testing
+</A><A NAME="20442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020444.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: shadow-utils &amp; util-linux with new default paths in testing
+</A><A NAME="20444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020654.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020664.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020676.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020677.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020679.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020695.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020696.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020697.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020734.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020737.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020749.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020751.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020753.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020754.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020756.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020757.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020815.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mika Laitio
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020816.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020821.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mika Laitio
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020824.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020921.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020926.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020927.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020930.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020931.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020932.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020934.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020935.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020895.html">[Mageia-dev] ARM port?
+</A><A NAME="20895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>magnus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020897.html">[Mageia-dev] ARM port?
+</A><A NAME="20897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020900.html">[Mageia-dev] ARM port?
+</A><A NAME="20900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020901.html">[Mageia-dev] ARM port?
+</A><A NAME="20901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>magnus
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020473.html">[Mageia-dev] Asia-Pacific packager newbie needs mentor
+</A><A NAME="20473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020489.html">[Mageia-dev] Asia-Pacific packager newbie needs mentor
+</A><A NAME="20489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020868.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020869.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020870.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020871.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020872.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020873.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020874.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020667.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020673.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020674.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020678.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020680.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020681.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020682.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020684.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020689.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020693.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020698.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020788.html">[Mageia-dev] Blender don't start
+</A><A NAME="20788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020879.html">[Mageia-dev] Changelog entries - why not delimited by release/build?
+</A><A NAME="20879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020876.html">[Mageia-dev] Changelog entries - why not delimited by release/build?
+</A><A NAME="20876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020539.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020554.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020555.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020556.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020557.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020558.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020568.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020569.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020570.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020571.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020881.html">[Mageia-dev] DBus and automount problem with KDE
+</A><A NAME="20881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Curtis Hildebrand
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020887.html">[Mageia-dev] DBus and automount problem with KDE
+</A><A NAME="20887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021050.html">[Mageia-dev] DVD install feedback for mga3 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="21050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020459.html">[Mageia-dev] eboard dead and broken package
+</A><A NAME="20459">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020460.html">[Mageia-dev] eboard dead and broken package
+</A><A NAME="20460">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020602.html">[Mageia-dev] failure to install a src.rpm in a user build directory
+</A><A NAME="20602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020606.html">[Mageia-dev] failure to install a src.rpm in a user build directory
+</A><A NAME="20606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020933.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="20933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020946.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="20946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020949.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="20949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021005.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="21005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021036.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="21036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020853.html">[Mageia-dev] File Perms on ftp server bad
+</A><A NAME="20853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020855.html">[Mageia-dev] File Perms on ftp server bad
+</A><A NAME="20855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020462.html">[Mageia-dev] filesystem update
+</A><A NAME="20462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020495.html">[Mageia-dev] filesystem update
+</A><A NAME="20495">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020520.html">[Mageia-dev] filesystem update
+</A><A NAME="20520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020523.html">[Mageia-dev] filesystem update
+</A><A NAME="20523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021010.html">[Mageia-dev] fstab issue - can mount but not umount as user, ehh, what?
+</A><A NAME="21010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021013.html">[Mageia-dev] fstab issue - can mount but not umount as user, ehh, what?
+</A><A NAME="21013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020844.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: [Bug 8426] mlocate - cron should use idle i/o priority
+</A><A NAME="20844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020845.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: [Bug 8426] mlocate - cron should use idle i/o priority
+</A><A NAME="20845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020650.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Why I am erasing Mageia from my system
+</A><A NAME="20650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020652.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Why I am erasing Mageia from my system
+</A><A NAME="20652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020875.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020877.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020878.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020888.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020889.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020890.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020891.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020892.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020803.html">[Mageia-dev] Glibc problem
+</A><A NAME="20803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020809.html">[Mageia-dev] Glibc problem
+</A><A NAME="20809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020810.html">[Mageia-dev] Glibc problem
+</A><A NAME="20810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021000.html">[Mageia-dev] glibcompat.h?
+</A><A NAME="21000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021004.html">[Mageia-dev] glibcompat.h?
+</A><A NAME="21004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021046.html">[Mageia-dev] how to update mageia rpmlint configuration on submission host ?
+</A><A NAME="21046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021047.html">[Mageia-dev] how to update mageia rpmlint configuration on submission host ?
+</A><A NAME="21047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021049.html">[Mageia-dev] how to update mageia rpmlint configuration on submission host ?
+</A><A NAME="21049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020823.html">[Mageia-dev] hplip broken?
+</A><A NAME="20823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrien Guichard
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020828.html">[Mageia-dev] hplip broken?
+</A><A NAME="20828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020467.html">[Mageia-dev] Improving communications
+</A><A NAME="20467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020471.html">[Mageia-dev] Improving communications
+</A><A NAME="20471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020923.html">[Mageia-dev] installation: deselect attempts cause select
+</A><A NAME="20923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020924.html">[Mageia-dev] installation: deselect attempts cause select
+</A><A NAME="20924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020925.html">[Mageia-dev] installation: deselect attempts cause select
+</A><A NAME="20925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020896.html">[Mageia-dev] Installing Beta 1
+</A><A NAME="20896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020899.html">[Mageia-dev] Installing Beta 1
+</A><A NAME="20899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020805.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020806.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020818.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020819.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020820.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020822.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020836.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020783.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020784.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020790.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020796.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020839.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020608.html">[Mageia-dev] Let's drop evolution-sharp
+</A><A NAME="20608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020981.html">[Mageia-dev] libffi.so.6 pb ?
+</A><A NAME="20981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020982.html">[Mageia-dev] libffi.so.6 pb ?
+</A><A NAME="20982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020991.html">[Mageia-dev] libffi.so.6 pb ?
+</A><A NAME="20991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020702.html">[Mageia-dev] libperl location
+</A><A NAME="20702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020720.html">[Mageia-dev] libperl location
+</A><A NAME="20720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020903.html">[Mageia-dev] linkingerror with gtk+ 2: missing X11 dep ?
+</A><A NAME="20903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020905.html">[Mageia-dev] linkingerror with gtk+ 2: missing X11 dep ?
+</A><A NAME="20905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020911.html">[Mageia-dev] Live DVD beta 1 report
+</A><A NAME="20911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020912.html">[Mageia-dev] Live DVD beta 1 report
+</A><A NAME="20912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020937.html">[Mageia-dev] Live DVD beta 1 report
+</A><A NAME="20937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020610.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020646.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020648.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020649.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020662.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020883.html">[Mageia-dev] lxsession needs consolekit to shut down the computer directly
+</A><A NAME="20883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020884.html">[Mageia-dev] lxsession needs consolekit to shut down the computer directly
+</A><A NAME="20884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020885.html">[Mageia-dev] lxsession needs consolekit to shut down the computer directly
+</A><A NAME="20885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020461.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020463.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020466.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020468.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020474.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020479.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Wood
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020476.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020480.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020482.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020488.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stan Thomas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020497.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20497">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020498.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020502.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020504.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020519.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020532.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stan Thomas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020540.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020634.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020668.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021016.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 28, Issue 77
+</A><A NAME="21016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021025.html">[Mageia-dev] Mesa 9.1 in mga3 or revert to llvm 3.1?
+</A><A NAME="21025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021008.html">[Mageia-dev] MGA2 - weird usbkey udisksd error
+</A><A NAME="21008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021009.html">[Mageia-dev] MGA2 - weird usbkey udisksd error
+</A><A NAME="21009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021027.html">[Mageia-dev] MGA2 - weird usbkey udisksd error
+</A><A NAME="21027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020622.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020623.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020625.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020627.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020628.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020629.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020647.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020651.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020653.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020666.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020661.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="20661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020880.html">[Mageia-dev] More fun with openvpn
+</A><A NAME="20880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020785.html">[Mageia-dev] msec su for wheel
+</A><A NAME="20785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020795.html">[Mageia-dev] msec su for wheel
+</A><A NAME="20795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020797.html">[Mageia-dev] msec su for wheel
+</A><A NAME="20797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021029.html">[Mageia-dev] Need help on cyrus-imapd
+</A><A NAME="21029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020545.html">[Mageia-dev] NetworkManager vs initscripts
+</A><A NAME="20545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020546.html">[Mageia-dev] NetworkManager vs initscripts
+</A><A NAME="20546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020613.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020616.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020614.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020620.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020672.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020675.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020683.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020725.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020726.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020727.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020738.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020744.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020745.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020490.html">[Mageia-dev] NOTE: dont upgrade / submit ppl to the bs/mirrors...
+</A><A NAME="20490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020493.html">[Mageia-dev] NOTE: dont upgrade / submit ppl to the bs/mirrors...
+</A><A NAME="20493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020494.html">[Mageia-dev] NOTE: dont upgrade / submit ppl to the bs/mirrors...
+</A><A NAME="20494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020452.html">[Mageia-dev] NOTE: dont upgrade / submit ppl to the bs/mirrors...
+</A><A NAME="20452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020798.html">[Mageia-dev] NVIDIA CUDA 5 has landed
+</A><A NAME="20798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020800.html">[Mageia-dev] NVIDIA CUDA 5 has landed
+</A><A NAME="20800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020812.html">[Mageia-dev] NVIDIA CUDA 5 has landed
+</A><A NAME="20812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021041.html">[Mageia-dev] Obsolete MCC Sound Configuration troubleshooting instructions
+</A><A NAME="21041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020852.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: more ruby packages
+</A><A NAME="20852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020854.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: more ruby packages
+</A><A NAME="20854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020856.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: more ruby packages
+</A><A NAME="20856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020637.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020640.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020641.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020643.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020644.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020709.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020711.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020712.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020713.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020714.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020715.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020716.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020730.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020732.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020735.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020736.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020472.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages for review
+</A><A NAME="20472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020483.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages for review
+</A><A NAME="20483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020501.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages for review
+</A><A NAME="20501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020655.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020658.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020660.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020663.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020665.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020671.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020789.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl(B::C) installation problem
+</A><A NAME="20789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020792.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl(B::C) installation problem
+</A><A NAME="20792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020475.html">[Mageia-dev] Please help to fix build ecl and gcl
+</A><A NAME="20475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020527.html">[Mageia-dev] Please help to fix build ecl and gcl
+</A><A NAME="20527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020581.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020588.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020599.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020603.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Vicente Castillo Corbella
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020605.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020580.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove libtunepimp
+</A><A NAME="20580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020590.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove libtunepimp
+</A><A NAME="20590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020591.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove libtunepimp
+</A><A NAME="20591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020593.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove libtunepimp
+</A><A NAME="20593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021030.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021031.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021032.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021034.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021035.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021038.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020922.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020928.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020929.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020936.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020939.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020940.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020943.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020717.html">[Mageia-dev] problems with latest update
+</A><A NAME="20717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020719.html">[Mageia-dev] problems with latest update
+</A><A NAME="20719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020718.html">[Mageia-dev] problems with latest update
+</A><A NAME="20718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020477.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal to drop avant-window-navigator
+</A><A NAME="20477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020508.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal to drop avant-window-navigator
+</A><A NAME="20508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021044.html">[Mageia-dev] Pushing KDE 4.9.95
+</A><A NAME="21044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020437.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020438.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020441.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020445.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020446.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020843.html">[Mageia-dev] pyc and pyo files are not included in some python packages
+</A><A NAME="20843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020850.html">[Mageia-dev] pyc and pyo files are not included in some python packages
+</A><A NAME="20850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020830.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020832.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire REVILLET
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020835.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020841.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020846.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020847.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020768.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020769.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020770.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020772.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire REVILLET
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020773.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020774.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020775.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire REVILLET
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020776.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>PhilippeDidier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020777.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020780.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020752.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020763.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020765.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020766.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020767.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020451.html">[Mageia-dev] python-tagpy build fail under cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020469.html">[Mageia-dev] python-tagpy build fail under cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020470.html">[Mageia-dev] python-tagpy build fail under cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020801.html">[Mageia-dev] r8169 eth0 link up/down
+</A><A NAME="20801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020802.html">[Mageia-dev] r8169 eth0 link up/down
+</A><A NAME="20802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020811.html">[Mageia-dev] r8169 eth0 link up/down
+</A><A NAME="20811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020904.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020906.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020920.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020938.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020910.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020464.html">[Mageia-dev] remove the udunits 1.x generation
+</A><A NAME="20464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020512.html">[Mageia-dev] remove the udunits 1.x generation
+</A><A NAME="20512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020542.html">[Mageia-dev] requiring postgres-devel
+</A><A NAME="20542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020543.html">[Mageia-dev] requiring postgres-devel
+</A><A NAME="20543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020799.html">[Mageia-dev] requiring postgres-devel
+</A><A NAME="20799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020941.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020944.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020947.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020959.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020960.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020961.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020962.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020964.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020965.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020966.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020967.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020968.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020970.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020971.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020972.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020973.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020977.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020978.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020980.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020983.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020984.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020985.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020986.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020987.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020988.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020989.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020990.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020992.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020993.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020994.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020995.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020998.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020999.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021001.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021002.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021003.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021007.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021011.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021012.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021014.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021015.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021022.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020781.html">[Mageia-dev] rootcerts - $arch dependant noarch package?
+</A><A NAME="20781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020951.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020953.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020955.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020957.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020958.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020974.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020975.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020976.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020979.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020857.html">[Mageia-dev] rsync problem with distrib-coffee
+</A><A NAME="20857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020858.html">[Mageia-dev] rsync problem with distrib-coffee
+</A><A NAME="20858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020859.html">[Mageia-dev] rsync problem with distrib-coffee
+</A><A NAME="20859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020863.html">[Mageia-dev] rsync problem with distrib-coffee
+</A><A NAME="20863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020787.html">[Mageia-dev] samba reload does not reread /etc/group
+</A><A NAME="20787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020793.html">[Mageia-dev] samba reload does not reread /etc/group
+</A><A NAME="20793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020484.html">[Mageia-dev] sankore versioning (and naming) problem
+</A><A NAME="20484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020486.html">[Mageia-dev] sankore versioning (and naming) problem
+</A><A NAME="20486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020487.html">[Mageia-dev] sankore versioning (and naming) problem
+</A><A NAME="20487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020778.html">[Mageia-dev] service dm restart go on tty3
+</A><A NAME="20778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020779.html">[Mageia-dev] service dm restart go on tty3
+</A><A NAME="20779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020860.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020861.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020862.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020864.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020865.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020866.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020867.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020913.html">[Mageia-dev] Spaces in doc filenames
+</A><A NAME="20913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020914.html">[Mageia-dev] Spaces in doc filenames
+</A><A NAME="20914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020948.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020952.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020956.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020969.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021039.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="21039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020945.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020954.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020963.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021045.html">[Mageia-dev] strange error on build host
+</A><A NAME="21045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021048.html">[Mageia-dev] strange error on build host
+</A><A NAME="21048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020560.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020559.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020561.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020563.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020578.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020579.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020584.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020592.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020804.html">[Mageia-dev] sysadmin please remove package
+</A><A NAME="20804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020786.html">[Mageia-dev] systemctl closelog httpd.service not working
+</A><A NAME="20786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020794.html">[Mageia-dev] systemctl closelog httpd.service not working
+</A><A NAME="20794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020950.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020915.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020916.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020917.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020918.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020942.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021006.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="21006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020733.html">[Mageia-dev] The &#171;task-obsolete&#187; debate [Was: Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree]
+</A><A NAME="20733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020842.html">[Mageia-dev] The &#171;task-obsolete&#187; debate [Was: Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree]
+</A><A NAME="20842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020996.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="20996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020997.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="20997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021026.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="21026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021033.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="21033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021037.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="21037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020566.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="20566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020530.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to install cauldron in a vmware vm
+</A><A NAME="20530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020533.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to install cauldron in a vmware vm
+</A><A NAME="20533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lee Forest
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020534.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to install cauldron in a vmware vm
+</A><A NAME="20534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020537.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to install cauldron in a vmware vm
+</A><A NAME="20537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020465.html">[Mageia-dev] unavailable synthesis.hdlist.cz on mirror disables the repo
+</A><A NAME="20465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020607.html">[Mageia-dev] unhappy with partitioning step results (&amp; no BS key)
+</A><A NAME="20607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="021024.html">[Mageia-dev] unreadable subject in submission error messages
+</A><A NAME="21024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020582.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020583.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020589.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020601.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020604.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020624.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade mga2 to cauldron (beta 1) experience
+</A><A NAME="20624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020478.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi --download-all --no-clean does not work any more
+</A><A NAME="20478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020500.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi --download-all --no-clean does not work any more
+</A><A NAME="20500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020439.html">[Mageia-dev] Utter frustration
+</A><A NAME="20439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020576.html">[Mageia-dev] Video players
+</A><A NAME="20576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020577.html">[Mageia-dev] Video players
+</A><A NAME="20577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020491.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020492.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20492">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020496.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20496">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020499.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020503.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020514.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020755.html">[Mageia-dev] Why no totem-plugin-arte in Mageia ?
+</A><A NAME="20755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020536.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020538.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020548.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020567.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020481.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020515.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020516.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020517.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020521.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020535.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020549.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020547.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020456.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20456">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020457.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20457">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020458.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20458">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020505.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020506.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020509.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020518.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020524.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020526.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="020544.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Dec 31 23:48:34 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Dec 31 23:48:53 CET 2012</i>
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+ <h1>December 2012 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Dec 1 00:27:13 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Dec 31 23:48:34 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 616<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01354318033- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020437.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354318033-01354327336- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020438.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354318033-01354327336-01354359628- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020441.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01354318033-01354327336-01354365886- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020445.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354318033-01354327336-01354365886-01354366366- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020446.html">[Mageia-dev] pushing pcre-8.32-2 manually
+</A><A NAME="20446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354327493- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020439.html">[Mageia-dev] Utter frustration
+</A><A NAME="20439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01354329028- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020440.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354329028-01354455609- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020485.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354329028-01354455609-01354574979- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020541.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354329028-01354455609-01354574979-01354830672- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020617.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354329028-01354455609-01354574979-01354830672-01354840141- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020621.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354329028-01354455609-01354574979-01354830672-01354840141-01354866301- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020626.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354329028-01354455609-01354574979-01354830672-01354840141-01354881961- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020630.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)
+</A><A NAME="20630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354360980- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020442.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: shadow-utils &amp; util-linux with new default paths in testing
+</A><A NAME="20442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354360980-01354365798- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020444.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: shadow-utils &amp; util-linux with new default paths in testing
+</A><A NAME="20444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354365711- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020443.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354365711-01354368272- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020447.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354365711-01354368272-01354370597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020448.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01354365711-01354370862- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020449.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354365711-01354370862-01354371286- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020450.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01354365711-01354370862-01354371443- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020453.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01354365711-01354381559- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020454.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20454">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lee Forest
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01354365711-01354384753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020455.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20455">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354365711-01354384753-01354530025- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020507.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354365711-01354384753-01354530025-01354540419- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020510.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354365711-01354384753-01354530025-01354540419-01354543794- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020511.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354365711-01354384753-01354530025-01354540419-01354543794-01354544945- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020513.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354365711-01354384753-01354530025-01354540419-01354543794-01354544945-01354562943- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020522.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354365711-01354384753-01354530025-01354540419-01354543794-01354544945-01354562943-01354564363- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020525.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354365711-01354384753-01354530025-01354540419-01354543794-01354544945-01354562943-01354564363-01354565235- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020528.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354365711-01354384753-01354530025-01354540419-01354543794-01354544945-01354562943-01354564363-01354565235-01354565736- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020529.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354365711-01354384753-01354530025-01354540419-01354543794-01354544945-01354562943-01354564363-01354565235-01354565736-01354569088- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020531.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354365711-01354384753-01354530025-01354540419-01354543794-01354544945-01354562943-01354564363-01354565235-01354629326- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020562.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354365711-01354384753-01354530025-01354540419-01354543794-01354544945-01354562943-01354564363-01354565235-01354629326-01354630612- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020564.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354365711-01354384753-01354530025-01354540419-01354543794-01354544945-01354562943-01354564363-01354565235-01354629326-01354630612-01354631603- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020565.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354365711-01354384753-01354530025-01354540419-01354543794-01354544945-01354606824- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020551.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo
+</A><A NAME="20551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354365711-01354384753-01354530025-01354540419-01354543794-01354544945-01354608937- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020552.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] urpmq --not-available (was renaming -debug packages as -debuginfo)
+</A><A NAME="20552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354375363- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020451.html">[Mageia-dev] python-tagpy build fail under cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01354378166- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020452.html">[Mageia-dev] NOTE: dont upgrade / submit ppl to the bs/mirrors...
+</A><A NAME="20452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354378166-01354465945- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020490.html">[Mageia-dev] NOTE: dont upgrade / submit ppl to the bs/mirrors...
+</A><A NAME="20490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354378166-01354465945-01354469451- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020493.html">[Mageia-dev] NOTE: dont upgrade / submit ppl to the bs/mirrors...
+</A><A NAME="20493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354378166-01354465945-01354469451-01354470064- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020494.html">[Mageia-dev] NOTE: dont upgrade / submit ppl to the bs/mirrors...
+</A><A NAME="20494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354385114- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020456.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20456">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354385114-01354385464- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020457.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20457">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020458.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20458">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020481.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354527611- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020505.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354527611-01354528312- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020506.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354527611-01354528312-01354557688- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020517.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354527611-01354528312-01354557688-01354562753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020521.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354527611-01354528312-01354557688-01354562753-01354563470- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020524.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354527611-01354528312-01354557688-01354562753-01354570552- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020536.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354527611-01354528312-01354557688-01354562753-01354570552-01354584960- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020548.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354527611-01354528312-01354557688-01354562753-01354570675- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020538.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354527611-01354528312-01354557688-01354562753-01354570675-01354578160- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020544.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354527611-01354528312-01354557688-01354562753-01354570675-01354578160-01354584693- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020547.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354527611-01354528312-01354557688-01354583961- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020549.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354527611-01354528312-01354557688-01354583961-01354639622- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020567.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354527611-01354556844- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020516.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354527611-01354556844-01354560035- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020518.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354527611-01354556844-01354560035-01354563709- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020526.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354527611-01354556844-01354560035-01354570400- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020535.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354538368- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020509.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354385114-01354385464-01354391008-01354450422-01354538368-01354556639- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020515.html">[Mageia-dev] Will the 'official' Mageia-3 installer have a 'GRUB Legacy' option?
+</A><A NAME="20515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354399708- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020459.html">[Mageia-dev] eboard dead and broken package
+</A><A NAME="20459">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354399708-01354406818- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020460.html">[Mageia-dev] eboard dead and broken package
+</A><A NAME="20460">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354407104- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020461.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354407104-01354410162- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020463.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354407104-01354410162-01354415796- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020466.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354407104-01354410162-01354415796-01354430793- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020468.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354407104-01354410162-01354415796-01354430793-01354444119- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020474.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354407104-01354410162-01354415796-01354430793-01354444119-01354450135- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020480.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354407104-01354410162-01354415796-01354430793-01354444361- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020479.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Wood
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354407104-01354410162-01354415796-01354430793-01354444361-01354450472- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020482.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354407104-01354410162-01354415796-01354519233- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020504.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354407104-01354410162-01354415796-01354519233-01354561031- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020519.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354407104-01354410162-01354415796-01354519233-01354561031-01354917685- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020634.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354407104-01354410162-01354415796-01354519233-01355014903- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020668.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01354407104-01354445821- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020476.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354407836- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020462.html">[Mageia-dev] filesystem update
+</A><A NAME="20462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354407836-01354470372- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020495.html">[Mageia-dev] filesystem update
+</A><A NAME="20495">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354407836-01354470372-01354561268- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020520.html">[Mageia-dev] filesystem update
+</A><A NAME="20520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354407836-01354470372-01354561268-01354563362- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020523.html">[Mageia-dev] filesystem update
+</A><A NAME="20523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354412325- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020464.html">[Mageia-dev] remove the udunits 1.x generation
+</A><A NAME="20464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354412325-01354544927- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020512.html">[Mageia-dev] remove the udunits 1.x generation
+</A><A NAME="20512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354415129- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020465.html">[Mageia-dev] unavailable synthesis.hdlist.cz on mirror disables the repo
+</A><A NAME="20465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01354428634- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020467.html">[Mageia-dev] Improving communications
+</A><A NAME="20467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354428634-01354440858- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020471.html">[Mageia-dev] Improving communications
+</A><A NAME="20471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354440633- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020469.html">[Mageia-dev] python-tagpy build fail under cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354440633-01354440802- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020470.html">[Mageia-dev] python-tagpy build fail under cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354441070- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020472.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages for review
+</A><A NAME="20472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354441070-01354452166- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020483.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages for review
+</A><A NAME="20483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354441070-01354452166-01354478026- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020501.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages for review
+</A><A NAME="20501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354443839- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020473.html">[Mageia-dev] Asia-Pacific packager newbie needs mentor
+</A><A NAME="20473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354443839-01354463149- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020489.html">[Mageia-dev] Asia-Pacific packager newbie needs mentor
+</A><A NAME="20489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354445231- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020475.html">[Mageia-dev] Please help to fix build ecl and gcl
+</A><A NAME="20475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354445231-01354565216- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020527.html">[Mageia-dev] Please help to fix build ecl and gcl
+</A><A NAME="20527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354446526- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020478.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi --download-all --no-clean does not work any more
+</A><A NAME="20478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354446526-01354476978- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020500.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi --download-all --no-clean does not work any more
+</A><A NAME="20500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354446601- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020477.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal to drop avant-window-navigator
+</A><A NAME="20477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354446601-01354530163- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020508.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal to drop avant-window-navigator
+</A><A NAME="20508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354454486- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020484.html">[Mageia-dev] sankore versioning (and naming) problem
+</A><A NAME="20484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354454486-01354456772- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020486.html">[Mageia-dev] sankore versioning (and naming) problem
+</A><A NAME="20486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354454486-01354456772-01354457282- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020487.html">[Mageia-dev] sankore versioning (and naming) problem
+</A><A NAME="20487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354458201- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020488.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stan Thomas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354458201-01354475466- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020497.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20497">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01354458201-01354475679- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020498.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354458201-01354475679-01354478810- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020502.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354466383- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020491.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354466383-01354468457- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020492.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20492">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354466383-01354468457-01354470989- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020496.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20496">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01354466383-01354468457-01354476732- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020499.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01354466383-01354484941- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020503.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354466383-01354484941-01354556535- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020514.html">[Mageia-dev] What is happening with WiFi on Mageia-3?
+</A><A NAME="20514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354567508- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020530.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to install cauldron in a vmware vm
+</A><A NAME="20530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354567508-01354570079- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020533.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to install cauldron in a vmware vm
+</A><A NAME="20533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lee Forest
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354567508-01354570079-01354570260- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020534.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to install cauldron in a vmware vm
+</A><A NAME="20534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01354567508-01354570845- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020537.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to install cauldron in a vmware vm
+</A><A NAME="20537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354570007- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020532.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Stan Thomas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354570007-01354574775- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020540.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL.
+</A><A NAME="20540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354574532- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020539.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354574532-01354613696- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020554.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354574532-01354613696-01354657885- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020571.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01354574532-01354615410- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020555.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01354574532-01354622390- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020556.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354574532-01354622390-01354623021- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020557.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354574532-01354622390-01354623021-01354623718- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020558.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354574532-01354622390-01354623021-01354623718-01354644017- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020568.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354574532-01354622390-01354623021-01354623718-01354644017-01354644522- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020569.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354574532-01354622390-01354623021-01354623718-01354644017-01354644522-01354651035- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020570.html">[Mageia-dev] Clanlib2 and SSE2 on i586
+</A><A NAME="20570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354575261- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020542.html">[Mageia-dev] requiring postgres-devel
+</A><A NAME="20542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354575261-01354577607- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020543.html">[Mageia-dev] requiring postgres-devel
+</A><A NAME="20543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354575261-01354577607-01355520150- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020799.html">[Mageia-dev] requiring postgres-devel
+</A><A NAME="20799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354579959- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020545.html">[Mageia-dev] NetworkManager vs initscripts
+</A><A NAME="20545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354579959-01354584552- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020546.html">[Mageia-dev] NetworkManager vs initscripts
+</A><A NAME="20546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354605509- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020550.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release pcre-8.32-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354605509-01355389402- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020771.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release pcre-8.32-5.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354609859- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020553.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release snort-2.9.4-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01354623904- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020559.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354623904-01354621910- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020560.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01354623904-01354628036- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020561.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01354623904-01354628259- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020563.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354638630- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020566.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="20566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01354660890- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020572.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release bind-9.9.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01354662636- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020573.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6562] Allow setting some env variables to define and default to setting PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL and PERL_AUTOINSTALL to --skipdeps
+</A><A NAME="20573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354662636-01354663541- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020574.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6562] Allow setting some env variables to define and default to setting PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL and PERL_AUTOINSTALL to --skipdeps
+</A><A NAME="20574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354662636-01354663541-01354664658- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020575.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6562] Allow setting some env variables to define and default to setting PERL_EXTUTILS_AUTOINSTALL and PERL_AUTOINSTALL to --skipdeps
+</A><A NAME="20575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354668285- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020576.html">[Mageia-dev] Video players
+</A><A NAME="20576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354668285-01354695114- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020577.html">[Mageia-dev] Video players
+</A><A NAME="20577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354703036- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020578.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354703036-01354705354- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020579.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354703036-01354705354-01354711918- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020584.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jan Ciger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354703036-01354705354-01354711918-01354713574- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020592.html">[Mageia-dev] strange GTK theme issue under KDE
+</A><A NAME="20592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354708041- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020580.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove libtunepimp
+</A><A NAME="20580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354708041-01354713199- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020590.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove libtunepimp
+</A><A NAME="20590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354708041-01354713199-01354713570- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020591.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove libtunepimp
+</A><A NAME="20591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01354708041-01354713680- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020593.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove libtunepimp
+</A><A NAME="20593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354708193- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020581.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354708193-01354713083- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020588.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01354708193-01354720520- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020599.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354708193-01354720520-01354749897- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020603.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Vicente Castillo Corbella
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354708193-01354720520-01354749897-01354782291- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020605.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove evolution-webcal
+</A><A NAME="20605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354711592- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020582.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354711592-01354711867- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020583.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354711592-01354711867-01354713159- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020589.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354711592-01354711867-01354713159-01354737757- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020601.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354711592-01354711867-01354713159-01354737757-01354776833- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020604.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating cauldron: BAD signature
+</A><A NAME="20604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354712768- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020585.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354712768-01354712966- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020587.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354712768-01354712966-01354714275- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020594.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354712768-01354712966-01354714275-01354715027- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020595.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354712768-01354712966-01354714275-01354715027-01354715549- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020596.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354712768-01354712966-01354714275-01354715027-01354715549-01354719395- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020597.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354712768-01354712966-01354714275-01354715027-01354715549-01354719395-01354719893- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020598.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354712768-01354712966-01354714275-01354715027-01354715549-01354719395-01354719893-01354722019- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020600.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6582] initial import
+</A><A NAME="20600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354712900- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020586.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6583] use Test::Compile for more automation
+</A><A NAME="20586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01354747805- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020602.html">[Mageia-dev] failure to install a src.rpm in a user build directory
+</A><A NAME="20602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354747805-01354784292- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020606.html">[Mageia-dev] failure to install a src.rpm in a user build directory
+</A><A NAME="20606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354784731- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020607.html">[Mageia-dev] unhappy with partitioning step results (&amp; no BS key)
+</A><A NAME="20607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01354797031- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020608.html">[Mageia-dev] Let's drop evolution-sharp
+</A><A NAME="20608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01354800490- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020609.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] easy tasks for junior packagers
+</A><A NAME="20609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354800490-01354828286- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020615.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] easy tasks for junior packagers
+</A><A NAME="20615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354801302- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020610.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354801302-01354964725- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020646.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354801302-01354964725-01354965728- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020648.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01354801302-01354965949- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020649.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354801302-01354965949-01354985490- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020662.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a Mentor
+</A><A NAME="20662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354808632- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020611.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dosemu-1.4.0.7-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354808632-01354809102- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020612.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dosemu-1.4.0.7-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354814556- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020613.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354814556-01354819549- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020616.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354814556-01354819549-01355045250- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020672.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354814556-01354819549-01355045250-01355054983- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020675.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354814556-01354819549-01355045250-01355054983-01355060394- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020683.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01354814556-01354820031- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020614.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354831711- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020618.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-userspace-headers-3.7.0-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354831711-01354831842- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020619.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-userspace-headers-3.7.0-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354834917- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020620.html">[Mageia-dev] new environment variable for rpmbuild?
+</A><A NAME="20620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01354847989- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020622.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354847989-01354848166- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020623.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354847989-01354848166-01354864061- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020625.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01354847989-01354869598- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020627.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354847989-01354869598-01354875975- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020628.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354847989-01354869598-01354875975-01354876377- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020629.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01354847989-01354965330- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020647.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354847989-01354965330-01354966532- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020651.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354847989-01354965330-01354966532-01354968841- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020653.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354847989-01354965330-01354966532-01355011861- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020666.html">[Mageia-dev] Mga3 - Beta1 &quot;soft freeze&quot; in Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354855325- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020624.html">[Mageia-dev] upgrade mga2 to cauldron (beta 1) experience
+</A><A NAME="20624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01354883197- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020631.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] What about installing dhclient on default installation?
+</A><A NAME="20631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354883197-01354890374- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020632.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] What about installing dhclient on default installation?
+</A><A NAME="20632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354917926- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020633.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6573] Add script to rebuild a list of packages
+</A><A NAME="20633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354917926-01355148139- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020710.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6573] Add script to rebuild a list of packages
+</A><A NAME="20710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354917926-01355148139-01355227756- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020739.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6573] Add script to rebuild a list of packages
+</A><A NAME="20739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354918272- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020635.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-3.7.0-0.rc8.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354918272-01355061658- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020685.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-3.7.0-0.rc8.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354918272-01355061658-01355064852- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020687.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kernel-3.7.0-0.rc8.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354919836- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020636.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release CardManager-1-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01354921510- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020638.html">[Mageia-dev] about ruby updates and some broken dependancies
+</A><A NAME="20638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354921510-01354924328- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020639.html">[Mageia-dev] about ruby updates and some broken dependancies
+</A><A NAME="20639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354921761- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020637.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354921761-01354924543- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020640.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354921761-01354924543-01354936365- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020641.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01354921761-01354924543-01354961191- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020643.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354921761-01354924543-01354961191-01354963072- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020644.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354921761-01354924543-01354961191-01354963072-01355144469- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020709.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354921761-01354924543-01354961191-01354963072-01355144469-01355149622- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020711.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354921761-01354924543-01354961191-01354963072-01355144469-01355149622-01355150128- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020712.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354921761-01354924543-01354961191-01354963072-01355144469-01355149622-01355150128-01355151082- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020714.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354921761-01354924543-01354961191-01354963072-01355144469-01355149622-01355150551- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020713.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354921761-01354924543-01354961191-01354963072-01355144469-01355149622-01355150551-01355152041- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020716.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354921761-01354924543-01354961191-01354963072-01355144469-01355151305- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020715.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354921761-01354924543-01354961191-01354963072-01355144469-01355151305-01355179365- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020730.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354921761-01354924543-01354961191-01354963072-01355144469-01355151305-01355179365-01355182898- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020732.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354921761-01354924543-01354961191-01354963072-01355144469-01355151305-01355179365-01355182898-01355207908- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020735.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354921761-01354924543-01354961191-01354963072-01355144469-01355151305-01355179365-01355182898-01355207908-01355222439- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020736.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree
+</A><A NAME="20736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354921761-01354924543-01354961191-01354963072-01355144469-01355151305-01355179365-01355192951- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020733.html">[Mageia-dev] The &#171;task-obsolete&#187; debate [Was: Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree]
+</A><A NAME="20733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354921761-01354924543-01354961191-01354963072-01355144469-01355151305-01355179365-01355192951-01355860687- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020842.html">[Mageia-dev] The &#171;task-obsolete&#187; debate [Was: Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree]
+</A><A NAME="20842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354961216- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020642.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-obsolete-3-37.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354961216-01354964588- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020645.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-obsolete-3-37.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354966100- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020650.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Why I am erasing Mageia from my system
+</A><A NAME="20650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354966100-01354968135- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020652.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Why I am erasing Mageia from my system
+</A><A NAME="20652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354969527- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020654.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354969527-01355055243- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020676.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354969527-01355055243-01355078943- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020696.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354969527-01355055243-01355078943-01355254043- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020749.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354969527-01355055243-01355078943-01355254043-01355255815- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020751.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354969527-01355055243-01355078943-01355254043-01355255815-01355304250- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020754.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01354969527-01355055243-01355078943-01355254043-01355304761- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020757.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354974227- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020655.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354974227-01354978180- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020658.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354974227-01354978180-01354982365- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020660.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01354974227-01354978180-01354982365-01354996359- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020663.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01354974227-01355011490- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020665.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01354974227-01355011490-01355041445- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020671.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl MIDI:ALSA module (package suggestion for Mageia)
+</A><A NAME="20671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354976641- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020656.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release edje_viewer-1.1.0-0.r80477.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01354978041- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020657.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [321297] imported package nemo
+</A><A NAME="20657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01354978041-01354982308- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020659.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [321297] imported package nemo
+</A><A NAME="20659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01354985061- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020661.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="20661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355007075- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020664.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355007075-01355055494- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020677.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355007075-01355055494-01355059147- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020679.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01355007075-01355055494-01355078887- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020695.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01355007075-01355055494-01355078887-01355079313- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020697.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355007075-01355055494-01355078887-01355079313-01355201512- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020734.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355007075-01355055494-01355078887-01355079313-01355201512-01355223390- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020737.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355007075-01355055494-01355078887-01355079313-01355201512-01355223390-01355286844- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020753.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355007075-01355055494-01355078887-01355079313-01355201512-01355223390-01355286844-01355304654- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020756.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355014645- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020667.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355014645-01355045311- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020673.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355014645-01355045311-01355060891- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020684.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01355014645-01355048366- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020674.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355014645-01355048366-01355057194- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020678.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01355014645-01355048366-01355057194-01355059629- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020680.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355014645-01355048366-01355057194-01355059629-01355059967- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020681.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355014645-01355048366-01355057194-01355059629-01355060267- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020682.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355014645-01355048366-01355057194-01355059629-01355060267-01355068551- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020689.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355014645-01355048366-01355057194-01355059629-01355060267-01355068551-01355073698- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020693.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355014645-01355048366-01355057194-01355059629-01355060267-01355068551-01355084718- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020698.html">[Mageia-dev] Big problem with a rpm =&gt; freeswitch
+</A><A NAME="20698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355024916- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020669.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release mplayer-1.1-7.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355024916-01355025585- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020670.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release mplayer-1.1-7.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355063967- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020686.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355063967-01355069046- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020690.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355063967-01355069046-01355069361- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020691.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01355063967-01355069046-01355069361-01355070066- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020692.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355063967-01355069046-01355069361-01355070066-01355098621- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020705.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6620] obsoleted by pod-syntax.t
+</A><A NAME="20705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355065779- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020688.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release mplayer-1.1-7.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355075273- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020694.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [329082] - mod_siren is not optional
+</A><A NAME="20694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355091501- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020699.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release initscripts-9.41-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355091501-01355091981- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020700.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release initscripts-9.41-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355094810- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020701.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release drakx-installer-stage2-15.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355097415- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020702.html">[Mageia-dev] libperl location
+</A><A NAME="20702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355097415-01355163721- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020720.html">[Mageia-dev] libperl location
+</A><A NAME="20720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355097921- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020703.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release x11-driver-video-ati-7.0.0-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355097921-01355098329- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020704.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release x11-driver-video-ati-7.0.0-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355132342- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020706.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6666] foo
+</A><A NAME="20706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355132342-01355132408- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020707.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6666] foo
+</A><A NAME="20707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355132437- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020708.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6663] para
+</A><A NAME="20708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355152754- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020717.html">[Mageia-dev] problems with latest update
+</A><A NAME="20717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355152754-01355153334- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020719.html">[Mageia-dev] problems with latest update
+</A><A NAME="20719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01355152754-01355155032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020718.html">[Mageia-dev] problems with latest update
+</A><A NAME="20718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355167543- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020721.html">[Mageia-dev] [Cauldron] Error at munin installation
+</A><A NAME="20721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355167543-01355173788- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020722.html">[Mageia-dev] [Cauldron] Error at munin installation
+</A><A NAME="20722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355167543-01355173788-01355173954- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020723.html">[Mageia-dev] [Cauldron] Error at munin installation
+</A><A NAME="20723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355174801- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020724.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6689] Get rid of cache
+</A><A NAME="20724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355174801-01355177144- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020728.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6689] Get rid of cache
+</A><A NAME="20728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355174801-01355177144-01355179163- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020729.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6689] Get rid of cache
+</A><A NAME="20729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01355174801-01355177144-01355179163-01355180597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020731.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [6689] Get rid of cache
+</A><A NAME="20731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355175241- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020725.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355175241-01355176596- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020726.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01355175241-01355176701- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020727.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355175241-01355176701-01355227383- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020738.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01355175241-01355176701-01355227383-01355243223- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020744.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355175241-01355176701-01355227383-01355243223-01355243777- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020745.html">[Mageia-dev] New install repo options
+</A><A NAME="20745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355240513- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020740.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release audacious-plugins-3.3.3-1.mga3.tainted
+</A><A NAME="20740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355240513-01355240829- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020741.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release audacious-plugins-3.3.3-1.mga3.tainted
+</A><A NAME="20741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355241857- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020742.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release qscintilla-2.7-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355243187- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020743.html">[Mageia-dev] /var/run after /usr/move
+</A><A NAME="20743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355243187-01355244632- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020746.html">[Mageia-dev] /var/run after /usr/move
+</A><A NAME="20746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01355243187-01355610895- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020808.html">[Mageia-dev] /var/run after /usr/move
+</A><A NAME="20808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355244736- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020747.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355244736-01355308707- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020758.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355244736-01355308707-01355329786- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020764.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01355244736-01355308707-01355609117- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020807.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01355244736-01355308707-01355609117-01355656308- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020814.html">[Mageia-dev] *.so files are text in some packages messing up provides (was: Re: abrt+libreport)
+</A><A NAME="20814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355244736-01355308707-01355609117-01355656308-01355665663- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020817.html">[Mageia-dev] *.so files are text in some packages messing up provides (was: Re: abrt+libreport)
+</A><A NAME="20817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01355244736-01355308905- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020759.html">[Mageia-dev] abrt+libreport
+</A><A NAME="20759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355251814- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020748.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release qscintilla-2.7-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355255208- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020750.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release flamerobin-0.9.2-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355258085- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020752.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355258085-01355321860- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020763.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355258085-01355321860-01355329914- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020765.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01355258085-01355321860-01355329914-01355331292- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020766.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355258085-01355321860-01355329914-01355331292-01355332005- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020767.html">[Mageia-dev] python-curl build fail in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="20767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355304516- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020755.html">[Mageia-dev] Why no totem-plugin-arte in Mageia ?
+</A><A NAME="20755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355315179- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020760.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gtk-engines2-2.20.2-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355315179-01355315257- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020761.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gtk-engines2-2.20.2-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355315179-01355315257-01355316390- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020762.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gtk-engines2-2.20.2-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355381584- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020768.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355381584-01355385607- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020769.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355381584-01355385607-01355387290- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020770.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01355381584-01355385607-01355408692- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020772.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire REVILLET
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01355381584-01355385607-01355408692-01355409280- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020773.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355381584-01355385607-01355408692-01355409831- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020774.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355381584-01355385607-01355408692-01355409831-01355417651- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020775.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire REVILLET
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355381584-01355385607-01355408692-01355422918- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020776.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>PhilippeDidier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01355381584-01355425809- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020777.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01355381584-01355430929- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020780.html">[Mageia-dev] Python packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="20780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355426737- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020778.html">[Mageia-dev] service dm restart go on tty3
+</A><A NAME="20778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355426737-01355427829- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020779.html">[Mageia-dev] service dm restart go on tty3
+</A><A NAME="20779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355431202- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020781.html">[Mageia-dev] rootcerts - $arch dependant noarch package?
+</A><A NAME="20781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355438487- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020782.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release youri-check-0.10.2-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355441165- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020783.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355441165-01355443570- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020784.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355441165-01355443570-01355859604- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020839.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01355441165-01355471872- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020790.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355441165-01355471872-01355486958- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020796.html">[Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription
+</A><A NAME="20796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355447403- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020785.html">[Mageia-dev] msec su for wheel
+</A><A NAME="20785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355447403-01355478450- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020795.html">[Mageia-dev] msec su for wheel
+</A><A NAME="20795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01355447403-01355489157- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020797.html">[Mageia-dev] msec su for wheel
+</A><A NAME="20797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355447642- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020786.html">[Mageia-dev] systemctl closelog httpd.service not working
+</A><A NAME="20786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355447642-01355478215- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020794.html">[Mageia-dev] systemctl closelog httpd.service not working
+</A><A NAME="20794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355448241- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020787.html">[Mageia-dev] samba reload does not reread /etc/group
+</A><A NAME="20787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355448241-01355477599- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020793.html">[Mageia-dev] samba reload does not reread /etc/group
+</A><A NAME="20793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355464892- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020788.html">[Mageia-dev] Blender don't start
+</A><A NAME="20788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355467283- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020789.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl(B::C) installation problem
+</A><A NAME="20789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355467283-01355475468- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020792.html">[Mageia-dev] Perl(B::C) installation problem
+</A><A NAME="20792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355476222- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020791.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release transmission-2.74-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355519315- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020798.html">[Mageia-dev] NVIDIA CUDA 5 has landed
+</A><A NAME="20798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355519315-01355525410- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020800.html">[Mageia-dev] NVIDIA CUDA 5 has landed
+</A><A NAME="20800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01355519315-01355619124- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020812.html">[Mageia-dev] NVIDIA CUDA 5 has landed
+</A><A NAME="20812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355585131- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020801.html">[Mageia-dev] r8169 eth0 link up/down
+</A><A NAME="20801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355585131-01355586058- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020802.html">[Mageia-dev] r8169 eth0 link up/down
+</A><A NAME="20802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355585131-01355586058-01355615173- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020811.html">[Mageia-dev] r8169 eth0 link up/down
+</A><A NAME="20811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355593064- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020803.html">[Mageia-dev] Glibc problem
+</A><A NAME="20803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355593064-01355612727- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020809.html">[Mageia-dev] Glibc problem
+</A><A NAME="20809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355593064-01355612727-01355613358- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020810.html">[Mageia-dev] Glibc problem
+</A><A NAME="20810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355594202- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020804.html">[Mageia-dev] sysadmin please remove package
+</A><A NAME="20804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355601291- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020805.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355601291-01355607010- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020806.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355601291-01355607010-01355673881- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020818.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01355601291-01355607010-01355673881-01355675436- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020819.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355601291-01355607010-01355673881-01355675436-01355682127- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020822.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355601291-01355607010-01355673881-01355675436-01355682127-01355850021- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020836.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355653252- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020813.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] The RPM Spec Lingo - Call for Contributions
+</A><A NAME="20813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355653252-01355859204- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020840.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] The RPM Spec Lingo - Call for Contributions
+</A><A NAME="20840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355657891- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020815.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mika Laitio
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355657891-01355658951- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020816.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355657891-01355658951-01355677214- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020821.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mika Laitio
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01355657891-01355658951-01355677214-01355734477- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020824.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi
+</A><A NAME="20824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355676911- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020820.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.10 Beta1
+</A><A NAME="20820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355696743- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020823.html">[Mageia-dev] hplip broken?
+</A><A NAME="20823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrien Guichard
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355696743-01355740965- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020828.html">[Mageia-dev] hplip broken?
+</A><A NAME="20828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355738132- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020825.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355738132-01355738233- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020826.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355738132-01355738233-01355739240- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020827.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01355738132-01355738233-01355739240-01355783142- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020831.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01355738132-01355738233-01355757203- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020829.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01355738132-01355738233-01355757203-01356200730- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020886.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355781680- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020830.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355781680-01355822032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020832.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire REVILLET
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355781680-01355822032-01355902057- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020847.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355833325- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020833.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355833325-01355833783- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020834.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01355833325-01355853065- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020837.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355833325-01355853065-01355855253- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020838.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01355833325-01355853065-01355855253-01356263036- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020894.html">[Mageia-dev] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355833325-01355853065-01355855253-01356263036-01356309449- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020898.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01355833325-01355853065-01355855253-01356263036-01356309449-01356341667- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020902.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] [ANN] rpm-4.11
+</A><A NAME="20902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355838244- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020835.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355838244-01355860610- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020841.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01355838244-01355901719- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020846.html">[Mageia-dev] python guru?
+</A><A NAME="20846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355878897- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020843.html">[Mageia-dev] pyc and pyo files are not included in some python packages
+</A><A NAME="20843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355878897-01355925686- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020850.html">[Mageia-dev] pyc and pyo files are not included in some python packages
+</A><A NAME="20850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355882367- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020844.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: [Bug 8426] mlocate - cron should use idle i/o priority
+</A><A NAME="20844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355882367-01355900082- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020845.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: [Bug 8426] mlocate - cron should use idle i/o priority
+</A><A NAME="20845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355916481- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020848.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release phpmyadmin-3.5.4-2.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355919044- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020849.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gamin-0.1.10-9.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355936189- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020851.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release wireshark-1.8.4-3.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01355953297- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020852.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: more ruby packages
+</A><A NAME="20852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355953297-01355983633- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020854.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: more ruby packages
+</A><A NAME="20854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01355953297-01355983633-01356026741- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020856.html">[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: more ruby packages
+</A><A NAME="20856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01355963155- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020853.html">[Mageia-dev] File Perms on ftp server bad
+</A><A NAME="20853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01355963155-01355991082- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020855.html">[Mageia-dev] File Perms on ftp server bad
+</A><A NAME="20855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356043713- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020857.html">[Mageia-dev] rsync problem with distrib-coffee
+</A><A NAME="20857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356043713-01356044412- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020858.html">[Mageia-dev] rsync problem with distrib-coffee
+</A><A NAME="20858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356043713-01356044412-01356048297- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020859.html">[Mageia-dev] rsync problem with distrib-coffee
+</A><A NAME="20859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356043713-01356044412-01356048297-01356078361- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020863.html">[Mageia-dev] rsync problem with distrib-coffee
+</A><A NAME="20863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356049894- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020860.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356049894-01356076482- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020861.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356049894-01356076482-01356079274- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020865.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356049894-01356076482-01356079274-01356082286- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020866.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01356049894-01356077530- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020862.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356049894-01356077530-01356079201- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020864.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356049894-01356077530-01356079201-01356089590- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020867.html">[Mageia-dev] shorewall, please review the package
+</A><A NAME="20867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356090486- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020868.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356090486-01356091548- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020869.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>G&#246;tz Waschk
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01356090486-01356092603- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020870.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356090486-01356092603-01356093198- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020873.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01356090486-01356092848- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020871.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356090486-01356092848-01356093144- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020872.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01356090486-01356092848-01356093232- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020874.html">[Mageia-dev] Autobuild logs
+</A><A NAME="20874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356101670- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020875.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356107314- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020876.html">[Mageia-dev] Changelog entries - why not delimited by release/build?
+</A><A NAME="20876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356107314-01356119504- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020879.html">[Mageia-dev] Changelog entries - why not delimited by release/build?
+</A><A NAME="20879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356108911- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020877.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356112308- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020878.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356123432- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020880.html">[Mageia-dev] More fun with openvpn
+</A><A NAME="20880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356155582- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020881.html">[Mageia-dev] DBus and automount problem with KDE
+</A><A NAME="20881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Curtis Hildebrand
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356155582-01356217591- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020887.html">[Mageia-dev] DBus and automount problem with KDE
+</A><A NAME="20887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356171947- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020882.html">[Mageia-dev] [atelier-discuss] music&amp;sounds
+</A><A NAME="20882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356173558- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020883.html">[Mageia-dev] lxsession needs consolekit to shut down the computer directly
+</A><A NAME="20883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356173558-01356174314- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020884.html">[Mageia-dev] lxsession needs consolekit to shut down the computer directly
+</A><A NAME="20884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356185197- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020885.html">[Mageia-dev] lxsession needs consolekit to shut down the computer directly
+</A><A NAME="20885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356222628- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020888.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>sardine
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356222628-01356235548- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020890.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356234666- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020889.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Joseph Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356234666-01356235820- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020891.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356234666-01356235820-01356237908- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020892.html">[Mageia-dev] Ganglia problem on mga2 - need help (mga#7589)
+</A><A NAME="20892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356250349- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020893.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release edbus-1.7.2-0.r81625.1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356265092- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020895.html">[Mageia-dev] ARM port?
+</A><A NAME="20895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>magnus
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356265092-01356307936- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020897.html">[Mageia-dev] ARM port?
+</A><A NAME="20897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356265092-01356307936-01356332773- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020900.html">[Mageia-dev] ARM port?
+</A><A NAME="20900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356265092-01356307936-01356332773-01356333698- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020901.html">[Mageia-dev] ARM port?
+</A><A NAME="20901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>magnus
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356303878- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020896.html">[Mageia-dev] Installing Beta 1
+</A><A NAME="20896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356303878-01356310593- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020899.html">[Mageia-dev] Installing Beta 1
+</A><A NAME="20899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356346176- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020903.html">[Mageia-dev] linkingerror with gtk+ 2: missing X11 dep ?
+</A><A NAME="20903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356346176-01356352965- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020905.html">[Mageia-dev] linkingerror with gtk+ 2: missing X11 dep ?
+</A><A NAME="20905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356352949- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020904.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356352949-01356353278- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020906.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01356352949-01356445721- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020910.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356352949-01356445721-01356488047- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020920.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356352949-01356445721-01356488047-01356560173- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020938.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on i586 for @334667:drakx-installer-stage2-15.15-1.mga3.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="20938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356427075- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020907.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libssh2-1.4.3-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356427338- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020908.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release calibre-0.9.10-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356429899- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020909.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release traceroute-2.0.19-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356429899-01356484890- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020919.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release traceroute-2.0.19-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="20919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356446055- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020911.html">[Mageia-dev] Live DVD beta 1 report
+</A><A NAME="20911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356446055-01356449094- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020912.html">[Mageia-dev] Live DVD beta 1 report
+</A><A NAME="20912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356446055-01356449094-01356559556- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020937.html">[Mageia-dev] Live DVD beta 1 report
+</A><A NAME="20937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356456595- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020913.html">[Mageia-dev] Spaces in doc filenames
+</A><A NAME="20913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356456595-01356457281- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020914.html">[Mageia-dev] Spaces in doc filenames
+</A><A NAME="20914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356460908- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020915.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356460908-01356462070- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020916.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356460908-01356462070-01356470696- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020917.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356460908-01356462070-01356470696-01356471689- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020918.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356460908-01356462070-01356470696-01356471689-01356562948- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020942.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356460908-01356462070-01356470696-01356471689-01356562948-01356598154- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020950.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="20950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356460908-01356462070-01356470696-01356471689-01356562948-01356598154-01356693168- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021006.html">[Mageia-dev] task-obsolete - questions about implementation details and how to disable it
+</A><A NAME="21006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356531224- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020921.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356531224-01356534678- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020926.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356531224-01356534678-01356535044- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020927.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01356531224-01356544016- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020930.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356531224-01356544016-01356547657- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020931.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356531224-01356544016-01356547657-01356547852- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020932.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356531224-01356544016-01356547657-01356547852-01356548427- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020934.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356531224-01356544016-01356547657-01356547852-01356548427-01356548522- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020935.html">[Mageia-dev] Another problem with new rpm
+</A><A NAME="20935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356532404- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020922.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356532404-01356535427- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020928.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356532404-01356535427-01356535794- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020929.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356532404-01356535427-01356535794-01356558791- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020936.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356532404-01356535427-01356535794-01356558791-01356560302- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020939.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356532404-01356535427-01356535794-01356558791-01356560302-01356561739- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020940.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356532404-01356535427-01356535794-01356558791-01356560302-01356561739-01356563192- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020943.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with urpmq ??
+</A><A NAME="20943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356533089- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020923.html">[Mageia-dev] installation: deselect attempts cause select
+</A><A NAME="20923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356533089-01356533241- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020924.html">[Mageia-dev] installation: deselect attempts cause select
+</A><A NAME="20924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356533089-01356533241-01356534659- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020925.html">[Mageia-dev] installation: deselect attempts cause select
+</A><A NAME="20925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356548260- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020933.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="20933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356548260-01356595341- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020946.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="20946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356548260-01356595341-01356598092- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020949.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="20949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356548260-01356595341-01356598092-01356692800- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021005.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="21005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356548260-01356595341-01356598092-01356692800-01356814269- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021036.html">[Mageia-dev] File Commander Linux repo configuration
+</A><A NAME="21036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356562460- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020941.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356562460-01356572009- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020944.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356562460-01356572009-01356613091- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020959.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356562460-01356572009-01356613091-01356639294- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020984.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356572009-01356613091-01356639294-01356639856- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020987.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356572009-01356613091-01356639294-01356639856-01356650260- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020993.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01356562460-01356596423- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020947.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356562460-01356596423-01356618252- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020966.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01356562460-01356613417- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020960.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020961.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020962.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020964.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020965.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618362- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020967.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020968.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020970.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020971.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020972.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356620939- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020973.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020977.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356626143- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020978.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356626143-01356630849- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020980.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356626143-01356630849-01356638672- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020983.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356626143-01356630849-01356638672-01356639468- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020985.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356626143-01356630849-01356638672-01356639468-01356639723- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020986.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356626143-01356630849-01356638672-01356639468-01356639723-01356640763- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020988.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356626143-01356630849-01356638672-01356639468-01356639723-01356640763-01356640928- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020989.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356626143-01356630849-01356638672-01356639468-01356639723-01356640763-01356640928-01356641160- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020990.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356626143-01356630849-01356638672-01356639468-01356639723-01356640763-01356640928-01356641160-01356690585- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021003.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356650403- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020994.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356650403-01356650605- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020995.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356650403-01356650605-01356652838- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020998.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356650403-01356650605-01356652838-01356653591- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020999.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356650403-01356650605-01356652838-01356653591-01356662071- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021002.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356650403-01356650605-01356652838-01356653591-01356662071-01356701878- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021007.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356650403-01356650605-01356652838-01356653591-01356662071-01356701878-01356714916- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021011.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356650403-01356650605-01356652838-01356653591-01356662071-01356701878-01356714916-01356717245- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021012.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356650403-01356650605-01356652838-01356653591-01356662071-01356701878-01356714916-01356717245-01356734747- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021015.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356650403-01356650605-01356652838-01356653591-01356662071-01356701878-01356714916-01356717245-01356734747-01356784472- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021022.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356650403-01356650605-01356654975- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021001.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356562460-01356613417-01356614309-01356615711-01356617041-01356618100-01356618595-01356619509-01356619792-01356620489-01356625709-01356726884- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021014.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="21014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01356562460-01356645924- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020992.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: dropping prebuilt broadcom-wl drivers
+</A><A NAME="20992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356573443- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020945.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356573443-01356597959- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020948.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01356573443-01356604158- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020952.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356573443-01356604158-01356605709- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020954.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356573443-01356604158-01356605709-01356607062- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020956.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356573443-01356604158-01356605709-01356607062-01356616870- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020963.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356573443-01356604158-01356605709-01356607062-01356616870-01356618621- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020969.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="20969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356573443-01356604158-01356605709-01356607062-01356856014- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021039.html">[Mageia-dev] starting openssh inside a chroot, as per mageia wiki
+</A><A NAME="21039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Glen Ogilvie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356603832- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020951.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356603832-01356604687- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020953.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356603832-01356604687-01356606764- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020955.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356603832-01356604687-01356606764-01356611683- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020957.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356603832-01356604687-01356606764-01356611683-01356612856- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020958.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356603832-01356604687-01356606764-01356611683-01356612856-01356622644- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020974.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356603832-01356604687-01356606764-01356611683-01356612856-01356622644-01356624344- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020975.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356603832-01356604687-01356606764-01356611683-01356612856-01356622644-01356624344-01356625653- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020976.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356603832-01356604687-01356606764-01356611683-01356612856-01356622644-01356624344-01356625653-01356627361- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020979.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmlib(TildeInVersions)
+</A><A NAME="20979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356635251- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020981.html">[Mageia-dev] libffi.so.6 pb ?
+</A><A NAME="20981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356635251-01356635901- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020982.html">[Mageia-dev] libffi.so.6 pb ?
+</A><A NAME="20982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356635251-01356635901-01356645215- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020991.html">[Mageia-dev] libffi.so.6 pb ?
+</A><A NAME="20991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356650846- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020996.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="20996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356650846-01356652493- -->
+<LI><A HREF="020997.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="20997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356650846-01356652493-01356804382- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021026.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="21026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356650846-01356652493-01356804382-01356810319- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021033.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="21033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01356650846-01356652493-01356804382-01356810319-01356817659- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021037.html">[Mageia-dev] tomcat 5
+</A><A NAME="21037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356653645- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021000.html">[Mageia-dev] glibcompat.h?
+</A><A NAME="21000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356653645-01356692092- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021004.html">[Mageia-dev] glibcompat.h?
+</A><A NAME="21004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356707914- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021008.html">[Mageia-dev] MGA2 - weird usbkey udisksd error
+</A><A NAME="21008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356707914-01356710793- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021009.html">[Mageia-dev] MGA2 - weird usbkey udisksd error
+</A><A NAME="21009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356707914-01356710793-01356804474- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021027.html">[Mageia-dev] MGA2 - weird usbkey udisksd error
+</A><A NAME="21027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356711190- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021010.html">[Mageia-dev] fstab issue - can mount but not umount as user, ehh, what?
+</A><A NAME="21010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356711190-01356725767- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021013.html">[Mageia-dev] fstab issue - can mount but not umount as user, ehh, what?
+</A><A NAME="21013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356735929- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021016.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 28, Issue 77
+</A><A NAME="21016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356736466- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021017.html">[Mageia-dev] acpid under systemd
+</A><A NAME="21017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356736466-01356943607- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021043.html">[Mageia-dev] acpid under systemd
+</A><A NAME="21043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356736466-01356943607-01356982726- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021051.html">[Mageia-dev] acpid under systemd
+</A><A NAME="21051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356776851- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021018.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release llvm-3.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356776851-01356779944- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021019.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release llvm-3.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356776851-01356779944-01356780404- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021020.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release llvm-3.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356776851-01356779944-01356780404-01356781623- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021021.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release llvm-3.2-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356786606- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021023.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN / RFT: glibc-2.17
+</A><A NAME="21023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356786606-01356805448- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021028.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN / RFT: glibc-2.17
+</A><A NAME="21028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01356786606-01356908548- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021042.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN / RFT: glibc-2.17
+</A><A NAME="21042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356797122- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021024.html">[Mageia-dev] unreadable subject in submission error messages
+</A><A NAME="21024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356797206- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021025.html">[Mageia-dev] Mesa 9.1 in mga3 or revert to llvm 3.1?
+</A><A NAME="21025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christiaan Welvaart
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356805966- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021029.html">[Mageia-dev] Need help on cyrus-imapd
+</A><A NAME="21029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356806994- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021030.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356806994-01356808296- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021031.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356806994-01356808296-01356810244- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021032.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01356806994-01356808296-01356810244-01356810587- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021034.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01356806994-01356811418- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021035.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356806994-01356811418-01356818616- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021038.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with missing signatures
+</A><A NAME="21038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356867296- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021040.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release mesa-9.1.0-0.git20121228.2.mga3.tainted
+</A><A NAME="21040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356908495- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021041.html">[Mageia-dev] Obsolete MCC Sound Configuration troubleshooting instructions
+</A><A NAME="21041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Felix Miata
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356962193- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021044.html">[Mageia-dev] Pushing KDE 4.9.95
+</A><A NAME="21044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356962780- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021045.html">[Mageia-dev] strange error on build host
+</A><A NAME="21045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356962780-01356973747- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021048.html">[Mageia-dev] strange error on build host
+</A><A NAME="21048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356963897- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021046.html">[Mageia-dev] how to update mageia rpmlint configuration on submission host ?
+</A><A NAME="21046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01356963897-01356966590- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021047.html">[Mageia-dev] how to update mageia rpmlint configuration on submission host ?
+</A><A NAME="21047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01356963897-01356966590-01356979156- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021049.html">[Mageia-dev] how to update mageia rpmlint configuration on submission host ?
+</A><A NAME="21049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01356982684- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021050.html">[Mageia-dev] DVD install feedback for mga3 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="21050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01356994114- -->
+<LI><A HREF="021052.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release iurt-0.6.16-1.mga3
+</A><A NAME="21052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Dec 31 23:48:34 CET 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Dec 31 23:48:53 CET 2012</i>
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