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Having something on the wiki +makes things a bit more organized. I've changed the links a bit so to +tell people to look on that page first for important notices. + +* Mageia-mentors mailing list or backup mentors + +It would be good if there was a mageia-mentors mailing list in which +private e-mail to and from the mentors could be cc'ed to so that all +of the mentors would have an overview of what conversations would +happen and there would be a "backup" in case a mentor goes offline. +Alternatively, people could get in a the habit of having a backup +mentor cc'ed that can respond if something comes up. + +It would also be good to change the instruction page with something +instructions like "if you don't hear back from X in three days, then +do Y" + +What happened with me was that I had been packaging a large number of +packages and coordinating things offline with my mentor. I mentioned +that I was packaging cinnamon and then when I was done (and it was +just a minor project), I mentioned that I was done. I didn't hear +back, but that's happened before, and that's not a problem. The +problem was that when I looked on the dev list for something +unrelated, I found out that the cinnamon packages had been bounced. +That wasn't a problem since they had been bounced for very good +technical reasons, which I've been fixing. Unfortunately, I was +reading the e-mail out of context so it looked to me like some tiny +cabal had bounced all my packages for no reason at all, and so I went +ballistic. The most annoying problem is that no one mentioned it me +that there was a technical issue with cinnamon. + +Part of the issue is since I'm new, I don't know the people, and so I +can't tell based on limited information if people are being reasonable +or not. Automatically assuming that people are being reasonable won't +work, because you'll find a lot of groups on the internet in which +people aren't reasonable (i.e. there is a reason why people are +dumping Gnome3 for Cinnamon) and people don't have the time and energy +to find out what's going on, and there is a lot of +"pseudo-reasonableness" out there. Working with a lot of volunteer +groups has made me a little paranoid when someone seems nice. + +For people with a CS bent, a lot of issues that you run into with +coordinating people are the same that you run into in coordinating +CPU/GPU's and doing parallel computing. You can map some of the +issues that I've run into into the "two generals problem". +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="020465.html">[Mageia-dev] unavailable synthesis.hdlist.cz on mirror disables the repo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="020471.html">[Mageia-dev] Improving communications +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#20467">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#20467">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#20467">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#20467">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |