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During 4 or 5 month, I agree to +</I>>><i> have no improvements or no bug corrections but security updates are +</I>>><i> useful. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I dont' want to replace Mga1 with Mga2 and 4 month later play again for +</I>>><i> Mga2 to Mga3. I have also other machines with Mga2 and with Mandriva +</I>>><i> 2010.2. I dont need a LTS but a Short Term Support is a bad thing and I +</I>>><i> don't want to waste my time. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Is it possible to have security updates until a month after Mga3 is out? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My feeling on this is that we have an 18 month support cycle *because* we +</I>><i> have a 9 month development cycle, so we support for the length of two +</I>><i> release cycles, so that if one release causes major problems, or you don't +</I>><i> have time to upgrade every single time, you can skip one +</I>><i> release and still stay supported. This works fine unless a release gets +</I>><i> delayed like Mageia 2 did (which is fine) and probably most will a +</I>><i> little bit at least. I believe the support should continue to run until +</I>><i> release+2 is out. +</I> +Sounds like a good reason for having a support period of either one +and a half or two and a half release cycles. Aiming for exactly +an integer means that there will be a day where updating has to happen. +Worse when there is a delay the overlap could be negative. + +><i> The problem is there isn't a company with paid employees providing the +</I>><i> support, it's a community distro with all volunteers, so we can only +</I>><i> continue to provide support if there are people willing and able to do the +</I>><i> work. +</I> +One and a half release cycles? + +Perhaps future realeases could have; +9 month release cycle, +12 month "full" support, +15 months "partial" support? + +><i> As you may know, I do a lot of the packaging work on security updates. I +</I>><i> also depend on some other packagers to do some of that work, but as time +</I>><i> passes, less and less of them have either the time or willingness to +</I>><i> continue to work on Mageia 1, so it gets more difficult to continue +</I>><i> to support everything as time passes. Also, even if we can get updates +</I>><i> packaged, we need QA people to test them, and we continue to need +</I>><i> more help with QA, as it's a very small number of people doing the vast +</I>><i> majority of the work. QA is responsible for not only testing updates for +</I>><i> stable distros, but also testing every single ISO (including alphas, +</I>><i> betas, and RCs) we release. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, to make a long story short, extending support for Mageia 1 was +</I>><i> discussed by the council, but unfortunately rejected, mostly IINM because +</I>><i> of the burden on QA. Again, that's not to blame anyone, but QA is a lot +</I>><i> of work that's done by few people. So if they're not willing or able to +</I>><i> continue to support it, unless new people step up to fill that void, we +</I>><i> just don't have the ability to continue to provide support. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As the person who does a lot of the packaging for security updates, I am +</I>><i> willing to continue the work I do on it, especially since I haven't had +</I>><i> time yet to move my and my family's workstations to Mageia 2, and probably +</I>><i> won't until late December, but I don't have a way to +</I>><i> distribute any new packages. The build system has closed for Mageia 1. +</I>><i> SVN should still be open, so I suppose I could check things in there +</I>><i> and anyone interested could build from it locally? I don't want to host +</I>><i> my own repository somewhere. +</I> +-- +blind Pete +Sig goes here... + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="020466.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="020474.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 1 EOL. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#20468">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#20468">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#20468">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#20468">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |