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+<PRE>Le mardi 28 septembre 2010 &#224; 18:56 +0200, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yes, it really heped us to translate, considering we had one svn
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; account, managed only by me, and aroud 6 translators. SimplePO is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; really useful for one community like Blogdrake where not all
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; translators know about svn, but It can't manage all translations and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; all languages.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I remember that by the release of Mandriva 2010.1, there were
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; discussions about the use of transifex and I even think it was decided
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it would be the next framework to use. Could Anne confirm this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed. It will help non technical translators. We have a Fedora guy
+</I>&gt;<i> ready to help us to setup it. It should be done as soon as build
+</I>&gt;<i> system including svn is ready
+</I>
+I have discussed of transiflex at FUDCON with a fedora ambassador, and
+he told me of the problem they had with upgrade of old version of the
+software. So I think we should be sure to use the latest version if
+possible.
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+And also, I think it would be better to package it :)
+
+( we can take fedora rpm, but it requires that someone update to latest
+version, iirc, they have 0.8 alpha 2, while 0.9 is the latest one )
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 &#224; 02:08 +0200, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le mardi 28 septembre 2010 &#224; 18:56 +0200, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I remember that by the release of Mandriva 2010.1, there were
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; discussions about the use of transifex and I even think it was decided
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; it would be the next framework to use. Could Anne confirm this?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Indeed. It will help non technical translators. We have a Fedora guy
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ready to help us to setup it. It should be done as soon as build
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; system including svn is ready
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have discussed of transiflex at FUDCON with a fedora ambassador, and
+</I>&gt;<i> he told me of the problem they had with upgrade of old version of the
+</I>&gt;<i> software. So I think we should be sure to use the latest version if
+</I>&gt;<i> possible.
+</I>
+Ok, so I checked, latest version use django-south that help to migrate
+the database schema, so this is likely to be ok in this regard.
+
+&gt;<i> And also, I think it would be better to package it :)
+</I>
+And I have started to look and packages missing pieces. Now, the only
+thing that we are missing are :
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+django-profile
+Django-south
+python-polib
+
+this should not be too hard to do, I guess this would me one hour of
+work to finish the rpms ( and then test them with transiflex ).
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+IMHO that we could/should provisionally rely on these:
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+* Etiquette for mailing lists:
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+And I said &quot;provisionally&quot; because I guess we'll have our own rules.
+But I don't think that courtesy and respect will be absent in our
+rules. In fact, I think &quot;our rules&quot; will be pretty much the same as
+the links I posted.
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+For those who don't know these documentos, please, take a few minutes
+and read them.
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+I'm sending this mail to mageia-dev / mageia-discuss / mageia-i18n
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+Cheers!
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+<PRE>Hi there! I' m Turkish translator of Mandriva Linux and deeply
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+<PRE>Le 25/09/2010 18:51, atilla ontas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi there! I' m Turkish translator of Mandriva Linux and deeply
+</I>&gt;<i> involved in Mageia if you don't know me already. From my point of view
+</I>&gt;<i> we, translation teams should use Launchpad to increase translations
+</I>&gt;<i> and make users easly involved in translations. Especially i have
+</I>&gt;<i> friends those can contribute Turkish translations but if they can use
+</I>&gt;<i> a web interface. Otherwise i' m alone in Turkish translation overload.
+</I>&gt;<i> and it is not a good thing to giveaway another two years to translate
+</I>&gt;<i> thousends of strings. What do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hi everybody,
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+I'm one of the french translator and wan't to involve in mageia.
+Perhaps can we look Transifex ? I think it is what it was used by
+mandriva and by several project (like XFCE).
+I'm not sure that using launchpad is a good idea. It's a canonical
+technology, even if they have released it a few years ago. And I didn't
+know any distro project (except ubuntu) who is using it.
+
+
+My 2 cents
+
+PS : I'm very happy to see how many people have register themselves to
+participate to mageia
+
+--
+Marianne (Jehane) Lombard
+Mandriva User - Mageia french translation team Inside every fat girl,
+there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a lot of chocolate) - Terry
+Pratchett
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+<PRE>Lombard Marianne &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marianne at tuxette.fr</A>&gt;
+&gt;<i> Le 25/09/2010 18:51, atilla ontas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; translation teams should use Launchpad to increase translations
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps can we look Transifex ? I think it is what it was used by
+</I>&gt;<i> mandriva and by several project (like XFCE).
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure that using launchpad is a good idea. It's a canonical
+</I>&gt;<i> technology, even if they have released it a few years ago. And I didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> know any distro project (except ubuntu) who is using it.
+</I>I agree, I wouldn't use launchpad. Mandriva did use simple svn for doung the
+version control. For doing the translation one used poedit, lokalize or
+similar software.
+I don't think that system is so bad. But if we do find something better, why
+not?
+I just don't like launchpad...
+
+
+Oliver
+
+PS.: I forgot: from the German translation team
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+&gt;<i> Lombard Marianne &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marianne at tuxette.fr</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 25/09/2010 18:51, atilla ontas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; translation teams should use Launchpad to increase translations
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Perhaps can we look Transifex ? I think it is what it was used by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mandriva and by several project (like XFCE).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not sure that using launchpad is a good idea. It's a canonical
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> technology, even if they have released it a few years ago. And I didn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> know any distro project (except ubuntu) who is using it.
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree, I wouldn't use launchpad. Mandriva did use simple svn for doung the
+</I>&gt;<i> version control. For doing the translation one used poedit, lokalize or
+</I>&gt;<i> similar software.
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think that system is so bad. But if we do find something better, why
+</I>&gt;<i> not?
+</I>&gt;<i> I just don't like launchpad...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS.: I forgot: from the German translation team
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+So, i think we should discuss using transifex or not.
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+<PRE>Le samedi 25 septembre 2010 &#224; 19:03 +0200, Lombard Marianne a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> I'm not sure that using launchpad is a good idea. It's a canonical
+</I>&gt;<i> technology, even if they have released it a few years ago. And I didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> know any distro project (except ubuntu) who is using it.
+</I>
+Well, if you look at
+<A HREF="http://blog.grossmeier.net/2010/09/23/other-launchpad-intalls-in-use/">http://blog.grossmeier.net/2010/09/23/other-launchpad-intalls-in-use/</A> ,
+you will see that Canonical opened the code, but no one did the effort
+of making it easy to install.
+
+So using launchpad would either mean &quot;do the work to make it cross
+distro&quot; ( and given the commentary, and my own experience, that's not
+trivial ), or use the current launchpad.net service.
+
+Using the current service would mean duplication of accounts, and would
+force the usage of bzr to store source code or whatever. Which in turn
+would be quite a mess on our side ( beside having to have 2 accounts,
+and having to be (maybe) unable to script )
+
+So, from my sysadmin point of view, that's quite undesirable.
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> Le samedi 25 septembre 2010 &#224; 19:03 +0200, Lombard Marianne a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm not sure that using launchpad is a good idea. It's a canonical
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; technology, even if they have released it a few years ago. And I didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; know any distro project (except ubuntu) who is using it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, if you look at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.grossmeier.net/2010/09/23/other-launchpad-intalls-in-use/">http://blog.grossmeier.net/2010/09/23/other-launchpad-intalls-in-use/</A> ,
+</I>&gt;<i> you will see that Canonical opened the code, but no one did the effort
+</I>&gt;<i> of making it easy to install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So using launchpad would either mean &quot;do the work to make it cross
+</I>&gt;<i> distro&quot; ( and given the commentary, and my own experience, that's not
+</I>&gt;<i> trivial ), or use the current launchpad.net service.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Using the current service would mean duplication of accounts, and would
+</I>&gt;<i> force the usage of bzr to store source code or whatever. Which in turn
+</I>&gt;<i> would be quite a mess on our side ( beside having to have 2 accounts,
+</I>&gt;<i> and having to be (maybe) unable to script )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, from my sysadmin point of view, that's quite undesirable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Launchpad is a pain to use ( i don't care from where it comes ( canonical or
+not ) as it is free ).
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+<PRE>hi,
+i'm marcello anni and i translate tools and wiki pages for mandriva. do you
+need anything translated in italian? please, let me know
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+cheers,
+Marcello
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+ <B>Ramon Retamar</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-i18n] English to spanish translator">rretamar at yahoo.com.ar
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+<PRE>Hi.
+My name is Ramon. I can work on translation from english to spanish.
+
+Hola.
+Mi nombre es Ram&#243;n. Puedo trabajar en la traducci&#243;n de ingl&#233;s a espa&#241;ol.
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+ <B>Diego Bello</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Ramon Retamar &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">rretamar at yahoo.com.ar</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi.
+</I>&gt;<i> My name is Ramon. I can work on translation from english to spanish.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hola.
+</I>&gt;<i> Mi nombre es Ram&#243;n. Puedo trabajar en la traducci&#243;n de ingl&#233;s a espa&#241;ol.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi Ram&#243;n,
+
+You can go and sing up at the MdkTrans team from blogdrake.net
+(<A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/jacen/lista-de-correo-para-traductores-de-mageia">http://blogdrake.net/blog/jacen/lista-de-correo-para-traductores-de-mageia</A>),
+and you can also add your name here:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=translators">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=translators</A>
+
+Saludos,
+
+--
+Diego Bello Carre&#241;o
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+ <B>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-i18n%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-i18n%5D%20Spanish%20translation%20for%20Wiki%3A%20%22Artwork%20guidelines%22&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DJB1oAZD87MurwNbsp%3Dkcf6r%2BSndiqysE4XVEe%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-i18n] Spanish translation for Wiki: &quot;Artwork guidelines&quot;">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com
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+<PRE>Hi there
+
+MDKTrans team has translated the Artwork guidelines from
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide</A>
+
+Question: How do we put it online? Or you do it?
+
+The Spanish text is this:
+
+-----START-----
+
+===== Lineamientos para el Arte =====
+
+==== Necesitamos ====
+ * Logo
+ * Esquemas de color
+ * Guia de estilo (web, impresi&#243;n)
+
+==== Logo ====
+Requisitos:
+ * &#161;COLORES!
+ * Deben verse bien en negro/blanco(fondo), degradados de gris y en
+variedades de colores (piensen en estampados de camisetas,
+diapositivas, otros medios)
+ * no deben usarse m&#225;s de 5 colores
+ * el texto (si lo contiene) debe ser legible en varias resoluciones
+ * proporcionarlo tambi&#233;n en resoluciones para favicon (16x16 &#243; 32x32)
+ * debe tener una variante de encuadre en un cuadrado (para &#237;conos)
+ * fuente SVG
+ * especificar qu&#233; fuente y recursos se utilizaron o si son
+originales, para ello debe permitirse su libre uso;
+ * para el texto, se recomienda encarecidamente tipograf&#237;as libres;
+tipograf&#237;as no libres evitaran el libre uso;
+
+
+Posteriormente:
+ * Deber&#237;amos tener gu&#237;as de uso/dise&#241;o, c&#243;digos de color, una vez
+que establezcamos lo que se puede o no hacer (vea
+<A HREF="http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/logo/">http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/about/logo/</A> )
+ * derechos concedidos para organizaciones sin animo de lucro
+(transferencia de derechos)
+
+Ideas:
+ * El texto &quot;Mageia&quot; y el logo combinados en un &#250;nico icono (ver
+NeXT, Sun, IBM)
+ * poner la M y la palabra Mage en una estilizada, distintiva y
+&#250;nica forma, especificar la fuente
+ * propuestas especificas para varios usos comunitarios (web o ISOs)
+ * &#191;alguna sugerencia?
+
+==== Esquema de colores ====
+ * Web
+ * impresi&#243;n
+
+Should match logo? not necessary
+
+Se necesita definir los Elementos Distintivos:
+
+ * La paleta de colores se definir&#225; seg&#250;n el mercado al que se
+dirija. Colore muy llamativos como el rojo, naranja y amarillo
+relacionados con la excitaci&#243;n se dirigir&#225;n a los usuarios j&#243;venes.
+Tonos de azul y plateado relacionados con la sofisticaci&#243;n para el
+publico mayor, y tal vez el corporativo.
+ * Tipograf&#237;a: Deber&#225; ser una fuente libre, esto es: publicada bajo
+una licencia libre como: Liberation, DejaVu, Bitstream Vera
+
+
+
+==== Propuestas ====
+Por favor publique los *enlaces* a sus propuestas en este medio junto
+con una forma de contactarlo (correo, twitter, otros) o utilice la
+siguiente galer&#237;a de flickr: <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/">http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/</A>
+
+ * [[<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54158977@N02/5012754619/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54158977@N02/5012754619/</A> | Logo
+completp]] incluir nombre utiliza la fuente &quot;Linux Biolinum&quot; flickr
+ * [[<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54158977@N02/5013358702/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54158977@N02/5013358702/</A> | Logo sin texto]]
+ * ...
+
+Fuentes SVG disponible bajo licencia CC
+ contacto <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">yorick_ at openoffice.org</A>
+
+==== Contacto ====
+Vea la pagina de dise&#241;adores y/o contacte con rda en #mageia del
+servidor Freenode
+
+-----END-----
+
+Please, let me know how to put it online, if it's possible.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+
+tavillo1980
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>Le 28/09/2010 14:13, David V. Wallin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Going to throw out an idea born by the members on Mageia-se.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://Mageia-se.org">http://Mageia-se.org</A>&gt; about the handling of translations.
+</I>&gt;<i> This might be an obvious idea, and if so we'll be happy :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm going to quote the text i wrote in #mageia since i currently feel
+</I>&gt;<i> too lazy to re-write it. Hope you understand what i'm trying to say with
+</I>&gt;<i> the text.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Had a discussion on Mageia-se.org &lt;<A HREF="http://Mageia-se.org">http://Mageia-se.org</A>&gt; where we
+</I>&gt;<i> talked about making translations of the disto from the community itself.
+</I>&gt;<i> The suggestion, that i wanted to run by someone before putting on the
+</I>&gt;<i> mailist, is that each country community starts a section (a wiki for
+</I>&gt;<i> example) where all the members of that community are able to translate
+</I>&gt;<i> as much as they are able and then, when reaching a certain percent
+</I>&gt;<i> translated, the translation is returned to the main developer team for
+</I>&gt;<i> implementation.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;the main motivation from the members on mageia-se.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://mageia-se.org">http://mageia-se.org</A>&gt; was that everyone could feel apart of the work
+</I>&gt;<i> and feel useful since even only translating one word would be a
+</I>&gt;<i> contribution.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Betygs&#228;tt g&#228;rna mitt mail!
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/">http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best Regards / V&#228;nligen ,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Stockholm Next Generation Web
+</I>&gt;<i> David V. Wallin
+</I>&gt;<i> +46 (0)8 4100 39 82
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ngweb.se">http://www.ngweb.se</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">david at ngweb.se</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">david at ngweb.se</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hi,
+
+No tool has been chosen right now for the translation work. Different
+ideas have been launched : subversion, transifex, etc. Why not a wiki.
+There is advantages and problems in every solution.
+
+You can join the list mageia-i18n, who is dedicated to the translation
+and localization issue.
+
+Marianne / Jehane
+
+--
+Marianne (Jehane) Lombard
+Mandriva User - Mageia french translation team
+Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a
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+<PRE>2010/9/28 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 2010/9/28 Lombard Marianne &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marianne at tuxette.fr</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No tool has been chosen right now for the translation work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oh, really? I'd strongly recommend agreeing on a tool which is easy to
+</I>&gt;<i> use and which allows for using the already existing po files of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva Linux for such parts which will be the same or only slightly
+</I>&gt;<i> different from current Cooker.
+</I>
+Sorry, forgot to add the 118n list in the &quot;To:&quot;
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+<PRE>2010/9/28 Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> 2010/9/28 Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We have something like that at Blogdrake.net
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; See <A HREF="http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php">http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It's based on SimplePo, with some customization (I didn't do it, so I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; can't tell you which things has being changed).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We pick PO files, and put them at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php">http://mdktrans.blogdrake.net/index.php</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There, MDKTrans members log in and translate lines. Other members come
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; after, and check.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; When it's ready 100%, Diego Bello (MDKTrans coordinator) uploads PO
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; file again to Mandriva server.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; tavillo1980
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I forgot, I hope Mageia has something like this:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/team/es/">http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/team/es/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IMHO, it rise translators spirit when they see how lines become green.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tavillo1980
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Statistics is certainly a must-on!
+
+Marek Laane
+Estonian translator
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+ <B>Lombard Marianne</B>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+To choose the right tool to translate magiea and mageia sites, I propose
+you to list the differents tools you use with the advantage and
+disadvantage of them.
+
+For website, blog entry :
+I personnaly use OmegaT (<A HREF="http://www.omegat.org/">http://www.omegat.org/</A>) to translate. It can be
+used with text files and odt, have a dictionnary included and generate
+an output file in the same format than the entry files.
+
+For string in the distribution :
+
+
+Can you complete this ? (or perhaps must we start a wiki page somewhere,
+in order to follow easily the modification)
+
+--
+Marianne (Jehane) Lombard
+Mandriva User - Mageia french translation team
+Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a
+lot of chocolate) - Terry Pratchett
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+<PRE>W dniu 2010-09-28 14:17, Lombard Marianne pisze:
+&gt;&gt;<i> The suggestion, that i wanted to run by someone before putting on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mailist, is that each country community starts a section (a wiki for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> example) where all the members of that community are able to translate
+</I>
+I'm definitely against using wiki for translation purposes or giving
+access to i18n tools to everybody. First of all, localization needs to
+be consistent. If everybody starts giving different names for same
+features, it will be a mess. Of course, there could be supervisors
+checking every single word but that structure will not work in smaller
+communities where HR capacity is limited. There also need to be a
+extensive guideline for all translators - and if we cannot force the
+community not to top-post on the mailing lists, I doubt we can reach
+concensus on the matter of proper phrases localization. I don't want to
+say that many of Mageia users will do the bad job on purpose but huge
+amount of them is not either fluent in English or their own language to
+be a translator.
+
+What I see as a perfect solution, is - discussed earlier - transifex. It
+will allow us to manage files easily and to create skillful and devoted
+localization teams. Of course, everybody would be able to join but the
+selection of candidates should appear in order not to do the same job twice.
+
+Regards,
+Adrian
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+
+I've noticed several different language versions of the Blog to be
+released soon. Who should I contact in order to help creating a
+translation that has not been listed there, yet?
+
+Regards,
+Adrian
+
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+<PRE>2010/9/28 Lombard Marianne &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">marianne at tuxette.fr</A>&gt;
+
+Hi,
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To choose the right tool to translate magiea and mageia sites, I propose
+</I>&gt;<i> you to list the differents tools you use with the advantage and
+</I>&gt;<i> disadvantage of them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For website, blog entry :
+</I>&gt;<i> I personnaly use OmegaT (<A HREF="http://www.omegat.org/">http://www.omegat.org/</A>) to translate. It can be
+</I>&gt;<i> used with text files and odt, have a dictionnary included and generate
+</I>&gt;<i> an output file in the same format than the entry files.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For string in the distribution :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you complete this ? (or perhaps must we start a wiki page somewhere,
+</I>&gt;<i> in order to follow easily the modification)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Marianne (Jehane) Lombard
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva User - Mageia french translation team
+</I>&gt;<i> Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a
+</I>&gt;<i> lot of chocolate) - Terry Pratchett
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I personally use Lokalize or, in quite rare cases now, Kate. Lokalize has
+almost all you should have in a translation program (one feature that it's
+predecessor KBabel has and Lokalize doesn't, is the possibility to commit or
+update SVN). Kate has, though, an advantage you can see quite a large part
+of file at one time, but, of course, it is not the translation program per
+se. But, if there is need to translate something else than PO, Kate is very
+useful.
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+<PRE>On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Miguel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">cullero at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> As an active member of MDK-Trans, besides what tavillo1980 said:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The idea behind use SimplePO in Blogdrake is to have centralized POs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, if a PO file has 1500 lines, and I translated 78, another user can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> keep working in the same file as I left it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In my humble opinion, having SimplePo in a centralized server made the
+</I>&gt;<i> translation and revision processes much faster. In just a couple of
+</I>&gt;<i> moths, the Spanish team reached the top-10 in the list:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/toplist/">http://mdk.jack.kiev.ua/stats/gui/trunk/toplist/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For other translations, like documentation, that's another ball game.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> motitos
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes, it really heped us to translate, considering we had one svn
+account, managed only by me, and aroud 6 translators. SimplePO is
+really useful for one community like Blogdrake where not all
+translators know about svn, but It can't manage all translations and
+all languages.
+
+I remember that by the release of Mandriva 2010.1, there were
+discussions about the use of transifex and I even think it was decided
+it would be the next framework to use. Could Anne confirm this?
+
+I don't know how it works in detail, but if it can give us the same
+functionality than simplepo that would be good. If not, we (blogdrake)
+can still use simplePO for spanish translations.
+
+Regards,
+--
+Diego Bello Carre&#241;o
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+circumstances and preferences. A system which goes well for a large
+group like the Blogdrake crowd must not be as applicable for a small
+group as the Germans (3-4 people).
+Same with the tools: some prefer GUIs some prefer text based
+editors/tools, some prefer web based applications like wikis, some can
+not use them when the are without net access for hours.
+
+IMHO we can surely talk about those systems and tools, may be we can
+learn from each other. But the decision on how to work inside a group
+can only be made by each single group for themselves.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, it really heped us to translate, considering we had one svn
+</I>&gt;<i> account, managed only by me, and aroud 6 translators. SimplePO is
+</I>&gt;<i> really useful for one community like Blogdrake where not all
+</I>&gt;<i> translators know about svn, but It can't manage all translations and
+</I>&gt;<i> all languages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I remember that by the release of Mandriva 2010.1, there were
+</I>&gt;<i> discussions about the use of transifex and I even think it was decided
+</I>&gt;<i> it would be the next framework to use. Could Anne confirm this?
+</I>
+ Indeed. It will help non technical translators. We have a Fedora guy
+ ready to help us to setup it. It should be done as soon as build
+ system including svn is ready
+
+
+&gt;<i> I don't know how it works in detail, but if it can give us the same
+</I>&gt;<i> functionality than simplepo that would be good. If not, we (blogdrake)
+</I>&gt;<i> can still use simplePO for spanish translations.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Diego Bello Carre&#241;o
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+-------
+Anne
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To choose the right tool to translate magiea and mageia sites, I propose
+</I>&gt;<i> you to list the differents tools you use with the advantage and
+</I>&gt;<i> disadvantage of them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For website, blog entry :
+</I>&gt;<i> I personnaly use OmegaT (<A HREF="http://www.omegat.org/">http://www.omegat.org/</A>) to translate. It can be
+</I>&gt;<i> used with text files and odt, have a dictionnary included and generate
+</I>&gt;<i> an output file in the same format than the entry files.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For string in the distribution :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>lokalize is the best tranlsatin tool, i think...
+
+and what about using a web-interface for managing translations? i think
+italian kde-i18n team will let you to us using their webiste structure:
+
+<A HREF="http://kde.gulp.linux.it/pacchetti.php?package=121">http://kde.gulp.linux.it/pacchetti.php?package=121</A>
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
+
+PS= i hope that translations of website will be easier than mandriva one as i
+would like to avoid to create a local archive of the webiste and translating
+each html page
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+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000002.html">[Mageia-i18n] &quot;Provisional&quot; Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct
+</A><A NAME="2">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-i18n] Spanish translation for Wiki: &quot;Artwork guidelines&quot;
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-i18n] Tools for translation
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-i18n] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-i18n] Blog entries
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-i18n] Tools for translation
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-i18n] English to spanish translator
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ramon Retamar
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000000.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="0">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000001.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-i18n] Serbian Translation
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>miodragz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Sep 29 15:25:00 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Oct 3 15:43:11 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
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+ <h1>September 2010 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Sep 25 18:51:31 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 15:25:00 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 25<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-i18n] Serbian Translation
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>miodragz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-i18n] italian translator
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-i18n] English to spanish translator
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ramon Retamar
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-i18n] English to spanish translator
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-i18n] Spanish translation for Wiki: &quot;Artwork guidelines&quot;
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-i18n] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-i18n] Tools for translation
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-i18n] Blog entries
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-i18n] Tools for translation
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-i18n] Tools for translation
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000000.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="0">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000001.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000002.html">[Mageia-i18n] &quot;Provisional&quot; Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct
+</A><A NAME="2">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Sep 29 15:25:00 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Oct 3 15:43:11 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>September 2010 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Sep 25 18:51:31 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 15:25:00 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 25<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000002.html">[Mageia-i18n] &quot;Provisional&quot; Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct
+</A><A NAME="2">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000000.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="0">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000001.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="1">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-i18n] Blog entries
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-i18n] English to spanish translator
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ramon Retamar
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-i18n] English to spanish translator
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-i18n] italian translator
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-i18n] Serbian Translation
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>miodragz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-i18n] Spanish translation for Wiki: &quot;Artwork guidelines&quot;
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-i18n] Tools for translation
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-i18n] Tools for translation
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-i18n] Tools for translation
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-i18n] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Sep 29 15:25:00 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Oct 3 15:43:11 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+ <ul>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Sep 25 18:51:31 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 15:25:00 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 25<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01285433491- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285433491-01285434196- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285433491-01285434196-01285436345- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285433491-01285434196-01285436345-01285436812- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01285433491-01285434196-01285456155- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285433491-01285434196-01285456155-01285458116- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-i18n] First post to the list - A Suggestion
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Nicolas L&#233;cureuil
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285509913- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-i18n] Serbian Translation
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>miodragz
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285509961- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-i18n] italian translator
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285521096- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-i18n] English to spanish translator
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ramon Retamar
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285521096-01285537901- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-i18n] English to spanish translator
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285609480- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-i18n] Spanish translation for Wiki: &quot;Artwork guidelines&quot;
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285676268- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-i18n] [Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285676268-01285677994- -->
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+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<I>Marek Laane
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+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
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+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
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+<I>Marek Laane
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+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Diego Bello
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+<I>Anne nicolas
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+<I>Marcello Anni
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+</A><A NAME="0">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
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+<I>Michael Scherer
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+<LI><A HREF="000002.html">[Mageia-i18n] &quot;Provisional&quot; Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct
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