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Mageia will have booth for +</I>><i> Solution Linux 2011 and (to be confirmed) for RMLL. We need +</I>><i> volunteer(s) to organize these events and help poor founders not to +</I>><i> sleep on Mageia work :). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can apply / propose here +</I>Definitely you can count me in. I'll be there for 3 days +><i> Thanks for advance +</I>><i> Cheers +</I>><i> +</I>regards + +LLTF (Long Life To Mageia) + +Mehdi HADJARD aka neggwada + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003932.html">[Mageia-discuss] Re : Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003935.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3934">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3934">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3934">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3934">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003935.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003935.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b948fb77b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003935.html @@ -0,0 +1,60 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20alpha1%20cooker%20updates%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4D773592.2000704%40uq.net.au%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003934.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003936.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates?</H1> + <B>Tony Blackwell</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20alpha1%20cooker%20updates%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4D773592.2000704%40uq.net.au%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates?">t.blackwell at uq.net.au + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 09:08:50 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003934.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003936.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3935">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3935">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3935">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3935">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Is alpha1 at the stage where I can point it to a cooker repository so +urpmi can find what is on cooker? Is there a utility yet so alpha1 will +notify me when new packages are available for download? +tonyb +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003934.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003936.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3935">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3935">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3935">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3935">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003936.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003936.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..689a39244 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003936.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20alpha1%20cooker%20updates%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimGSybaUF_54%3Dap%2BGqAmtz8hzH83KBb1Kc2%2BNo9%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003935.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003933.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates?</H1> + <B>Anne nicolas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20alpha1%20cooker%20updates%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimGSybaUF_54%3Dap%2BGqAmtz8hzH83KBb1Kc2%2BNo9%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates?">ennael1 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 12:30:10 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003935.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003933.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3936">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3936">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3936">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3936">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi + +2011/3/9 Tony Blackwell <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">t.blackwell at uq.net.au</A>>: +><i> Is alpha1 at the stage where I can point it to a cooker repository so urpmi +</I>><i> can find what is on cooker? Is there a utility yet so alpha1 will notify me +</I>><i> when new packages are available for download? +</I> +you mean cauldron ? :) +sure have a look here: +<A HREF="http://mirrors.mageia.org/">http://mirrors.mageia.org/</A> + +mdkonline is not yet imported so notification system for updates is +not ready yet + +Cheers + +><i> tonyb +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +Anne +<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003935.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003933.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3936">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3936">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3936">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3936">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003937.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003937.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..30ecadcbd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003937.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Fwd%3A%20Sound%20in%20Mageia%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cil7qst%24kqe%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003933.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003940.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?</H1> + <B>Colin Guthrie</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Fwd%3A%20Sound%20in%20Mageia%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cil7qst%24kqe%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?">mageia at colin.guthr.ie + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 13:13:17 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003933.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003940.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3937">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3937">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3937">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3937">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 08/03/11 19:18 did gyre and gimble: +><i> Op dinsdag 08 maart 2011 13:38:36 schreef Wolfgang Bornath: +</I>>><i> 2011/3/8 Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>>: +</I>>>><i> Out of curiosity, what did you change it from and to? Can you supply the +</I>>>><i> "pacmd list" output (just want to double check that the default +</I>>>><i> profiles/ports are sensible on your h/w). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I installed phonon-xine with its dependencies and then in the +</I>>><i> multimedia section of the KDE configuration I put phonon-xine on top +</I>>><i> of the list in the backend tab (before it showed only +</I>>><i> phonon-gstreamer). +</I>>><i> After that all sound applications worked (dragon, amarok, kscd, vlc, +</I>>><i> firefox plugins, etc.). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> See output of "pacmd list" attached. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> i had a similar problem, but that was codec related of the gstreamer. on my +</I>><i> machine, phonon-xine worked a lot better than phonon-gstreamer... +</I> +The downside generally is that phonon-xine is not developed (neither is +xine itself), full of very annoying bugs, and has terrible support for +pulseaudio. GStreamer fixes all these issues but obviously introduces +others. Personally I don't have any problem with GST, but obviously +milages varies. + +FWIW, Wobo, what you changed was not "Speaker Configuration" as you +previously indicated... you changed the Phonon Backend. So my reasons +for asking the question no longer apply, which is good :) + +Col + + + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] + PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] + Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003933.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003940.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3937">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3937">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3937">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3937">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003938.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003938.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4cefa92b4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003938.html @@ -0,0 +1,108 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mirror + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mirror&In-Reply-To=%3C4D7773C4.9050409%40unige.ch%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003940.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003939.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mirror</H1> + <B>Juergen Harms</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mirror&In-Reply-To=%3C4D7773C4.9050409%40unige.ch%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mirror">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 13:34:12 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003940.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003939.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3938">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3938">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3938">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3938">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I have now arranged for a mirror to be set up at CUI - my old lab at the +university of Geneva - I hope it will come up in time for alpha-2. + +CUI is glad to help, but that is not a permanent solution - CUI normally +does not provide this kind of service - permanent mirroring services +should be provided by Switch as soon as a stable Mageia release becomes +available. I will pursue the discussion with Switch. + +Talking to people at Switch brought up some facts which Mandriva should +be aware of: + - There is a heritage of bad experience that has been made with Mandriva. + - It is not the first time that I hear the argument Mageia = Mandriva += forgetit. + - Mageia happens at present to be perceived as "just another one of +those distros that appear and disappear to oblivion" (maybe with a +component of unfriendlyness towards Linux). + +By the way, at my university there was a similar experience: Mandriva +was part of the officially supported infrastructure (mirror, +consultancy), with fees paid to Mandriva - that broke in dysharmony due +to bad administrative response from Mandriva, leaving quite some ill +feeling. Sorry if I wade through these negative arguments, but these +beyond-the-enthusiast-user spotlights count. + +I think that, when the stable release approaches, a small campaign to +rectify these prejudices would be an excellent thing. + +Talking with the people at Switch who maintain the Switch mirroring +service, there were also some concrete and technical arguments - I +quote, translating from German: + "the communication with the mirror sites at Mandriva had already been +minimal, compared with other distros: announcing releases, checking the +availability at the mirrors (QA), etc" (which is a mere quote, dont ask +me to interpret). + +Switch is reluctant to maintain a mirror at "assembly language level" +("just run rsync every 2 hours"), they would prefer solutions using +something like MirrorBrain - but probably Mandriva experiences are part +of the background to this argument. + +At present, putting a mirror on a univeristy site puts it into an +environment which is in good match to the straightforward rsync approach +- correct for the alpha period of Mageia. + +But I think that on the long-run there are lessons to be learned from +the discussion with Switch - mirrors for a stable Mageia should be +preferably hosted at professionally run mirror sites (who make the kind +of consideration I quoted above), university solutions should come as +additional icing. In case of a second round of discussion on how to +organise Mageia mirrors, it might be a good idea to have that discussion +with some participation from the mirror sites. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003940.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003939.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3938">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3938">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3938">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3938">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003939.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003939.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..67c67cf60 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003939.html @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mirror + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mirror&In-Reply-To=%3C201103091407.26568.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003938.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003943.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mirror</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mirror&In-Reply-To=%3C201103091407.26568.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mirror">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 14:07:26 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003938.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003943.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3939">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3939">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3939">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3939">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I don't really understand the problems: + +In Germany almost all mirrors are hosted by the Universities. Since alpha1 I +asked two of those, that host mirrors for a number of distros, if they could +mirror Mageia as well. +Both of them agreed without any problems (Erlangen and Esslingen with 1 and 2 +GBit/s bandwidth). +Nobody told me anything about former problems with Mandriva. They just did it. + +I don't know about the rest of the world, but if you know any institution +mirroring other distros it doesn't hurt to just ask, does it? + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003938.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003943.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3939">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3939">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3939">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3939">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003940.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003940.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..94ed5f0d8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003940.html @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Fwd%3A%20Sound%20in%20Mageia%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik%2BOX2pd7Xj%3DHyhOUUDuTzmRs8Z6h16xKG0z3w0%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003937.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003938.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Fwd%3A%20Sound%20in%20Mageia%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik%2BOX2pd7Xj%3DHyhOUUDuTzmRs8Z6h16xKG0z3w0%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 14:13:55 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003937.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003938.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3940">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3940">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3940">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3940">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/3/9 Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>>: +><i> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 08/03/11 19:18 did gyre and gimble: +</I>>><i> Op dinsdag 08 maart 2011 13:38:36 schreef Wolfgang Bornath: +</I>>>><i> 2011/3/8 Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>>: +</I>>>>><i> Out of curiosity, what did you change it from and to? Can you supply the +</I>>>>><i> "pacmd list" output (just want to double check that the default +</I>>>>><i> profiles/ports are sensible on your h/w). +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I installed phonon-xine with its dependencies and then in the +</I>>>><i> multimedia section of the KDE configuration I put phonon-xine on top +</I>>>><i> of the list in the backend tab (before it showed only +</I>>>><i> phonon-gstreamer). +</I>>>><i> After that all sound applications worked (dragon, amarok, kscd, vlc, +</I>>>><i> firefox plugins, etc.). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> FWIW, Wobo, what you changed was not "Speaker Configuration" as you +</I>><i> previously indicated... you changed the Phonon Backend. So my reasons +</I>><i> for asking the question no longer apply, which is good :) +</I> +I was not precise enough. Here is what happened: + +03/03/2011: + - I had to install task-pulseaudio with all dependencies AND + - backend was only phonon-gstreamer + - in speaker settings of "phonon" I changed sound device from +"Internal Audio" to "High Definition Audio Controller" +It worked. + +08/03/2011: +After updates this setup did not work anymore. So I + - installed phonon-xine and put it on top in the backend tab + - changed sound device back to "Internal Audio", the output setting +to "Internal Audio Analog Stereo" + +Works in stereo with internal speakers and headphone. + +This is the current working setup with all updates installed (no +/testing repos set). +This is also the setup I created the "pacmd list" output. + +Sorry about the unclear report. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003937.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003938.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3940">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3940">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3940">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3940">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003941.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003941.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4610a46c9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003941.html @@ -0,0 +1,114 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mirror + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mirror&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimDYsEQ9Ja6AsR%3D%3DdsBJDQ1VYXNM2%2BN3UYsANLd%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003943.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003942.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mirror</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mirror&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimDYsEQ9Ja6AsR%3D%3DdsBJDQ1VYXNM2%2BN3UYsANLd%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mirror">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 14:31:44 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003943.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003942.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3941">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3941">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3941">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3941">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/3/9 Juergen Harms <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>>: + +><i> Talking to people at Switch brought up some facts which Mandriva should be +</I>><i> aware of: +</I>><i>  - There is a heritage of bad experience that has been made with Mandriva. +</I>><i>  - It is not the first time that I hear the argument Mageia = Mandriva = +</I>><i> forgetit. +</I>><i>  - Mageia happens at present to be perceived as "just another one of those +</I>><i> distros that appear and disappear to oblivion" (maybe with a component of +</I>><i> unfriendlyness towards Linux). +</I> +Yes, I guess this is based on personal opinions and you can't really fight that. + +><i> By the way, at my university there was a similar experience: Mandriva was +</I>><i> part of the officially supported infrastructure (mirror, consultancy), with +</I>><i> fees paid to Mandriva - that broke in dysharmony due to bad administrative +</I>><i> response from Mandriva, leaving quite some ill feeling. Sorry if I wade +</I>><i> through these negative arguments, but these beyond-the-enthusiast-user +</I>><i> spotlights count. +</I> +You can't compare this setup with anything related to Mageia. Mageia +does not ask to become a consultant to Switch and Mageia does not ask +for any fees. Furthermore "bad administrative response" is one of +those things about Mandriva that Mageia will avoid by all means. It +was caused by lack of manpower of a commercial company, something +which is totally different at Mageia. + +><i> I think that, when the stable release approaches, a small campaign to +</I>><i> rectify these prejudices would be an excellent thing. +</I> +Time to rectify those prejudices is now, at any time at any place (not +only with mirror providers but in general). + +><i> But I think that on the long-run there are lessons to be learned from the +</I>><i> discussion with Switch - mirrors for a stable Mageia should be preferably +</I>><i> hosted at professionally run mirror sites (who make the kind of +</I>><i> consideration I quoted above), university solutions should come as +</I>><i> additional icing. In case of a second round of discussion on how to organise +</I>><i> Mageia mirrors, it might be a good idea to have that discussion with some +</I>><i> participation from the mirror sites. +</I> +I can not confirm nor agree to this. As Oliver wrote, 2 universities +already set up a mirror for Mageia and when looking around worldwide +who is hosting a Mandriva mirror you will notice that educational +institutions (aka universities) are the majority. + +Using MirrorBrain may or may not be an improvement (I can't judge +this) but IMHO it should not be a criterium to mirror or not. + +Of course, if Switch wants it that way then it is up to the Mageia +sysadmins to decide what is the better way - implementing MirrorBrain +to please Switch or not implement it and forget about Switch - not +speaking about other advantages/disadvantages which may come with +Mirrorbrain. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003943.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003942.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3941">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3941">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3941">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3941">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003942.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003942.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..54d143ab0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003942.html @@ -0,0 +1,206 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mirror + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mirror&In-Reply-To=%3C1299679296.2558.277.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003941.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003944.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mirror</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mirror&In-Reply-To=%3C1299679296.2558.277.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mirror">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 15:01:36 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003941.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003944.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3942">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3942">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3942">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3942">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 09 mars 2011 à 13:34 +0100, Juergen Harms a écrit : +><i> I have now arranged for a mirror to be set up at CUI - my old lab at the +</I>><i> university of Geneva - I hope it will come up in time for alpha-2. +</I> +That sound great, thanks. + +><i> CUI is glad to help, but that is not a permanent solution - CUI normally +</I>><i> does not provide this kind of service - permanent mirroring services +</I>><i> should be provided by Switch as soon as a stable Mageia release becomes +</I>><i> available. I will pursue the discussion with Switch. +</I> +Ie, not permanent, do you know how and why this would stop ? + +><i> Talking to people at Switch brought up some facts which Mandriva should +</I>><i> be aware of: +</I>><i> - There is a heritage of bad experience that has been made with Mandriva. +</I>><i> - It is not the first time that I hear the argument Mageia = Mandriva +</I>><i> = forgetit. +</I>><i> - Mageia happens at present to be perceived as "just another one of +</I>><i> those distros that appear and disappear to oblivion" (maybe with a +</I>><i> component of unfriendlyness towards Linux). +</I> +IMHO, our best bet for such case is to wait, so people can make their +minds and reconsider their position. I am not sure that trying to push +now is good. It take time to recover trust and make people forget where +do we come from. + +Our problem is that if we say "we are a mandriva fork", people think of +their bad experiences. If we don't, we appear as just yet another +distro. + +So maybe it would be better to engage first with people that do not have +negative experience with Mandriva rather than trying to convince people +who did have ? + +><i> By the way, at my university there was a similar experience: Mandriva +</I>><i> was part of the officially supported infrastructure (mirror, +</I>><i> consultancy), with fees paid to Mandriva - that broke in dysharmony due +</I>><i> to bad administrative response from Mandriva, leaving quite some ill +</I>><i> feeling. Sorry if I wade through these negative arguments, but these +</I>><i> beyond-the-enthusiast-user spotlights count. +</I> +Well, we should make clear to people that we started the project for the +same reasons that they broke from Mandriva, and that we are aware of the +problems. But IMHO, we should not try too hard to convince them to help +us, just say that we agree with them. The rest will come by itself. + +><i> I think that, when the stable release approaches, a small campaign to +</I>><i> rectify these prejudices would be an excellent thing. +</I> +That sound like a delicate task ( for the aforementioned reasons of +PR ). How would you start ? + +><i> Talking with the people at Switch who maintain the Switch mirroring +</I>><i> service, there were also some concrete and technical arguments - I +</I>><i> quote, translating from German: +</I>><i> "the communication with the mirror sites at Mandriva had already been +</I>><i> minimal, compared with other distros: announcing releases, checking the +</I>><i> availability at the mirrors (QA), etc" (which is a mere quote, dont ask +</I>><i> me to interpret). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Switch is reluctant to maintain a mirror at "assembly language level" +</I>><i> ("just run rsync every 2 hours"), they would prefer solutions using +</I>><i> something like MirrorBrain - but probably Mandriva experiences are part +</I>><i> of the background to this argument. +</I> +Well, what do they need more precisely ? + +We understand well that they do not want to micromanage the mirror ( I +think no one does ), but then they can for sure understand that we +cannot adapt to everybody too on our side ( ie, another kind of micro +management ). + +And for mirrorbrain, I do not see how this relate to rsync, as the +software is used on distro side to distribute mirrors lists, if I +understand well. Rsync is still used to mirror around. + +If I remember, the problem of switch was "there is not enough users to +justify the mirroring" ( as you explained before ), and I do not think +this will be solved until one or two years, nor that mirrorbrain will +produce more users by magic. + +So maybe we should just wait to be credible when asking something to +them and be honest about that ? + +><i> At present, putting a mirror on a univeristy site puts it into an +</I>><i> environment which is in good match to the straightforward rsync approach +</I>><i> - correct for the alpha period of Mageia. +</I> +Given the high number of university for all others distributions, I +think this is a good match for most of them :) + +><i> But I think that on the long-run there are lessons to be learned from +</I>><i> the discussion with Switch - mirrors for a stable Mageia should be +</I>><i> preferably hosted at professionally run mirror sites (who make the kind +</I>><i> of consideration I quoted above), university solutions should come as +</I>><i> additional icing. In case of a second round of discussion on how to +</I>><i> organise Mageia mirrors, it might be a good idea to have that discussion +</I>><i> with some participation from the mirror sites. +</I> +I do not understand what you mean by "professionally run mirror". I +think this doesn't mean what you want it to mean. + +Switch.ch core "business" is not to run mirrors, this is to sell +connectivity ( to swiss schools ). The core "business" of a university +is not to host mirrors, but researchers and students. + +><i>From my point of view, there is 2 motivations ( that can be +</I>overlapping ): +- people who run mirrors to help free software +- people who run mirrors because this help them on various level + +A mirror can help to save bandwidth ( for example, free.fr is a french +provider, all linux user will likely go on their mirror as this is +faster ), or to leverage this for peering/trafic negotiation ( see +<A HREF="http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2008/09/peering-and-transit.ars">http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2008/09/peering-and-transit.ars</A> , I +also recommend to see <A HREF="http://www.blogg.ch/uploads/peering-playbook.pdf">http://www.blogg.ch/uploads/peering-playbook.pdf</A> , +given at the end of the article ). + +I think most universities does this to help free software, and because +they use internally. I think most volunteer-run mirrors, like the one of +Wobo fall in this category too. + +On the contrary, I suppose that most operators ( like switch to some +extend, but for free.fr, belgacom, etc ) does this for peering/trafic +reasons, and that mean they need to have enough traffic for this to be +useful for them, and enough users to justify the need. For now, I do not +think we are in a position to be interesting to this kind of mirrors. + +So what we could do is to ask for some metrics so we could now when we +will be able to reach a agreement, and try to have a multiple step +plan : +- first, we try to engage some universities ( or likely minded admins, +such as kernel.org, or others ), to cope with the load of the +distribution. Some being 4/5. + +- based on the feedback, we make sure that the documentation is correct, +that our procedure works, etc, etc. + +- once we have more and more people ( with metrics that have to be +found ), we try to find more mirrors. + +- once we are interesting enough to engage people in the connectivity +business, then we try to engage them ( likely not before one or two +years, maybe more ). + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003941.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003944.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3942">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3942">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3942">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3942">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003943.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003943.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d3a2b5afa --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003943.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mirror + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mirror&In-Reply-To=%3C4D7791E1.4050900%40unige.ch%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003939.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003941.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mirror</H1> + <B>Juergen Harms</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mirror&In-Reply-To=%3C4D7791E1.4050900%40unige.ch%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mirror">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 15:42:41 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003939.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003941.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3943">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3943">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3943">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3943">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I agree: Mageia can perfectly live without a mirror at Switch. I do not +agree that this kind of input from a service provision environment (I +was tempted to say run in a business environment) can just be shrugged +away - that was my point (along with the shock I perceived getting +confronted again with this kind of prejudices). + +I think that the judgement of outfits like Switch on the acceptability +of Mageia procedures is a yardstick which must be considered - and these +procedures were not a big help in convincing Switch on the difference +between Mageia and Mandriva with regards to mirroring services. Maybe I +would have been clearer with less and more blunt words. +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003939.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003941.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3943">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3943">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3943">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3943">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003944.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003944.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c9320afea --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003944.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Looking%20for%20volunteer%20for%20french%20events&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimPuRpuGYiZFW%3DSuXUuRVf2aHsrDYdLCSPUehrb%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003942.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003945.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events</H1> + <B>Anne nicolas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Looking%20for%20volunteer%20for%20french%20events&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimPuRpuGYiZFW%3DSuXUuRVf2aHsrDYdLCSPUehrb%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events">ennael1 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 15:53:53 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003942.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3944">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3944">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3944">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3944">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/3/7 Anne nicolas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> Hi there +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is a message rather for french people. Mageia will have booth for +</I>><i> Solution Linux 2011 and (to be confirmed) for RMLL. We need +</I>><i> volunteer(s) to organize these events and help poor founders not to +</I>><i> sleep on Mageia work :). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can apply / propose here +</I> +Just added in wiki +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:solutions_linux_2011">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:solutions_linux_2011</A> + +As you can see "main contact" is still to be filled :) + +><i> +</I>><i> Thanks for advance +</I>><i> Cheers +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Anne +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +Anne +<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003942.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3944">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3944">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3944">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3944">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003945.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003945.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..75573b512 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003945.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Looking%20for%20volunteer%20for%20french%20events&In-Reply-To=%3Cdc8cff640f7778052156d7e3cab5158e%40localhost%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003944.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003951.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events</H1> + <B>Damien Lallement</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Looking%20for%20volunteer%20for%20french%20events&In-Reply-To=%3Cdc8cff640f7778052156d7e3cab5158e%40localhost%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events">mageia at damsweb.net + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 16:07:16 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003944.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003951.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3945">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3945">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3945">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3945">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:53:53 +0100, Anne nicolas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>> +wrote: +><i> 2011/3/7 Anne nicolas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> Hi there +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This is a message rather for french people. Mageia will have booth for +</I>>><i> Solution Linux 2011 and (to be confirmed) for RMLL. We need +</I>>><i> volunteer(s) to organize these events and help poor founders not to +</I>>><i> sleep on Mageia work :). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> You can apply / propose here +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Just added in wiki +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:solutions_linux_2011">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:solutions_linux_2011</A> +</I> +I added my name. + +><i> As you can see "main contact" is still to be filled :) +</I> +I candidate. :-) + +>><i> +</I>>><i> Thanks for advance +</I>>><i> Cheers +</I>-- +Damien Lallement +aka "damsweb" or "coincoin" on IRC and twitter + +<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003944.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003951.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3945">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3945">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3945">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3945">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003946.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003946.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d92bf869c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003946.html @@ -0,0 +1,415 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%207%2C%0A%09Issue%2020%20%20Cooker%20Updates&In-Reply-To=%3C201103100247.10165.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003952.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003947.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates</H1> + <B>Doug Laidlaw</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%207%2C%0A%09Issue%2020%20%20Cooker%20Updates&In-Reply-To=%3C201103100247.10165.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 16:47:10 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003952.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003947.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3946">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3946">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3946">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3946">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I have been downloading updates for a while. + +When Alpha 2 is released, do I need to download it, or will the brew in the +cauldron automagically re-brand my system as Alpha 2? The DVD would be handy +to have as a more current medium for a re-install. + +Doug, MDV 2010.2 + +On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:01:41 am <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> wrote: +><i> Send Mageia-discuss mailing list submissions to +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can reach the person managing the list at +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-owner at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific +</I>><i> than "Re: Contents of Mageia-discuss digest..." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Today's Topics: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1. alpha1 cooker updates? (Tony Blackwell) +</I>><i> 2. Re: alpha1 cooker updates? (Anne nicolas) +</I>><i> 3. Re: Fwd: Sound in Mageia? (Colin Guthrie) +</I>><i> 4. Mirror (Juergen Harms) +</I>><i> 5. Re: Mirror (Oliver Burger) +</I>><i> 6. Re: Fwd: Sound in Mageia? (Wolfgang Bornath) +</I>><i> 7. Re: Mirror (Wolfgang Bornath) +</I>><i> 8. Re: Mirror (Michael Scherer) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Message: 1 +</I>><i> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:08:50 +1100 +</I>><i> From: Tony Blackwell <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">t.blackwell at uq.net.au</A>> +</I>><i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> Subject: [Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</I>><i> Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">4D773592.2000704 at uq.net.au</A>> +</I>><i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is alpha1 at the stage where I can point it to a cooker repository so +</I>><i> urpmi can find what is on cooker? Is there a utility yet so alpha1 will +</I>><i> notify me when new packages are available for download? +</I>><i> tonyb +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ------------------------------ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Message: 2 +</I>><i> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 12:30:10 +0100 +</I>><i> From: Anne nicolas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>> +</I>><i> To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</I>><i> Message-ID: +</I>><i> <AANLkTimGSybaUF_54=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ap+GqAmtz8hzH83KBb1Kc2+No9 at mail.gmail.com</A>> +</I>><i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hi +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2011/3/9 Tony Blackwell <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">t.blackwell at uq.net.au</A>>: +</I>><i> > Is alpha1 at the stage where I can point it to a cooker repository so +</I>><i> > urpmi can find what is on cooker? Is there a utility yet so alpha1 will +</I>><i> > notify me when new packages are available for download? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> you mean cauldron ? :) +</I>><i> sure have a look here: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mirrors.mageia.org/">http://mirrors.mageia.org/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> mdkonline is not yet imported so notification system for updates is +</I>><i> not ready yet +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > tonyb +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Op dinsdag 08 maart 2011 13:38:36 schreef Wolfgang Bornath: +</I>><i> >> 2011/3/8 Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>>: +</I>><i> >>> Out of curiosity, what did you change it from and to? Can you supply +</I>><i> >>> the "pacmd list" output (just want to double check that the default +</I>><i> >>> profiles/ports are sensible on your h/w). +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> I installed phonon-xine with its dependencies and then in the +</I>><i> >> multimedia section of the KDE configuration I put phonon-xine on top +</I>><i> >> of the list in the backend tab (before it showed only +</I>><i> >> phonon-gstreamer). +</I>><i> >> After that all sound applications worked (dragon, amarok, kscd, vlc, +</I>><i> >> firefox plugins, etc.). +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> See output of "pacmd list" attached. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > i had a similar problem, but that was codec related of the gstreamer. on +</I>><i> > my machine, phonon-xine worked a lot better than phonon-gstreamer... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The downside generally is that phonon-xine is not developed (neither is +</I>><i> xine itself), full of very annoying bugs, and has terrible support for +</I>><i> pulseaudio. GStreamer fixes all these issues but obviously introduces +</I>><i> others. Personally I don't have any problem with GST, but obviously +</I>><i> milages varies. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> FWIW, Wobo, what you changed was not "Speaker Configuration" as you +</I>><i> previously indicated... you changed the Phonon Backend. So my reasons +</I>><i> for asking the question no longer apply, which is good :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Col +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 08/03/11 19:18 did gyre and gimble: +</I>><i> >> Op dinsdag 08 maart 2011 13:38:36 schreef Wolfgang Bornath: +</I>><i> >>> 2011/3/8 Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>>: +</I>><i> >>>> Out of curiosity, what did you change it from and to? Can you supply +</I>><i> >>>> the "pacmd list" output (just want to double check that the default +</I>><i> >>>> profiles/ports are sensible on your h/w). +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> I installed phonon-xine with its dependencies and then in the +</I>><i> >>> multimedia section of the KDE configuration I put phonon-xine on top +</I>><i> >>> of the list in the backend tab (before it showed only +</I>><i> >>> phonon-gstreamer). +</I>><i> >>> After that all sound applications worked (dragon, amarok, kscd, vlc, +</I>><i> >>> firefox plugins, etc.). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > FWIW, Wobo, what you changed was not "Speaker Configuration" as you +</I>><i> > previously indicated... you changed the Phonon Backend. So my reasons +</I>><i> > for asking the question no longer apply, which is good :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I was not precise enough. Here is what happened: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 03/03/2011: +</I>><i> - I had to install task-pulseaudio with all dependencies AND +</I>><i> - backend was only phonon-gstreamer +</I>><i> - in speaker settings of "phonon" I changed sound device from +</I>><i> "Internal Audio" to "High Definition Audio Controller" +</I>><i> It worked. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 08/03/2011: +</I>><i> After updates this setup did not work anymore. So I +</I>><i> - installed phonon-xine and put it on top in the backend tab +</I>><i> - changed sound device back to "Internal Audio", the output setting +</I>><i> to "Internal Audio Analog Stereo" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Works in stereo with internal speakers and headphone. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is the current working setup with all updates installed (no +</I>><i> /testing repos set). +</I>><i> This is also the setup I created the "pacmd list" output. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sorry about the unclear report. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Talking to people at Switch brought up some facts which Mandriva should +</I>><i> > be aware of: +</I>><i> > ?- There is a heritage of bad experience that has been made with +</I>><i> > Mandriva. ?- It is not the first time that I hear the argument Mageia = +</I>><i> > Mandriva = forgetit. +</I>><i> > ?- Mageia happens at present to be perceived as "just another one of +</I>><i> > those distros that appear and disappear to oblivion" (maybe with a +</I>><i> > component of unfriendlyness towards Linux). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, I guess this is based on personal opinions and you can't really fight +</I>><i> that. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > By the way, at my university there was a similar experience: Mandriva was +</I>><i> > part of the officially supported infrastructure (mirror, consultancy), +</I>><i> > with fees paid to Mandriva - that broke in dysharmony due to bad +</I>><i> > administrative response from Mandriva, leaving quite some ill feeling. +</I>><i> > Sorry if I wade through these negative arguments, but these +</I>><i> > beyond-the-enthusiast-user spotlights count. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can't compare this setup with anything related to Mageia. Mageia +</I>><i> does not ask to become a consultant to Switch and Mageia does not ask +</I>><i> for any fees. Furthermore "bad administrative response" is one of +</I>><i> those things about Mandriva that Mageia will avoid by all means. It +</I>><i> was caused by lack of manpower of a commercial company, something +</I>><i> which is totally different at Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > I think that, when the stable release approaches, a small campaign to +</I>><i> > rectify these prejudices would be an excellent thing. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Time to rectify those prejudices is now, at any time at any place (not +</I>><i> only with mirror providers but in general). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > But I think that on the long-run there are lessons to be learned from the +</I>><i> > discussion with Switch - mirrors for a stable Mageia should be preferably +</I>><i> > hosted at professionally run mirror sites (who make the kind of +</I>><i> > consideration I quoted above), university solutions should come as +</I>><i> > additional icing. In case of a second round of discussion on how to +</I>><i> > organise Mageia mirrors, it might be a good idea to have that discussion +</I>><i> > with some participation from the mirror sites. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can not confirm nor agree to this. As Oliver wrote, 2 universities +</I>><i> already set up a mirror for Mageia and when looking around worldwide +</I>><i> who is hosting a Mandriva mirror you will notice that educational +</I>><i> institutions (aka universities) are the majority. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Using MirrorBrain may or may not be an improvement (I can't judge +</I>><i> this) but IMHO it should not be a criterium to mirror or not. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course, if Switch wants it that way then it is up to the Mageia +</I>><i> sysadmins to decide what is the better way - implementing MirrorBrain +</I>><i> to please Switch or not implement it and forget about Switch - not +</I>><i> speaking about other advantages/disadvantages which may come with +</I>><i> Mirrorbrain. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > I have now arranged for a mirror to be set up at CUI - my old lab at the +</I>><i> > university of Geneva - I hope it will come up in time for alpha-2. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That sound great, thanks. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > CUI is glad to help, but that is not a permanent solution - CUI normally +</I>><i> > does not provide this kind of service - permanent mirroring services +</I>><i> > should be provided by Switch as soon as a stable Mageia release becomes +</I>><i> > available. I will pursue the discussion with Switch. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ie, not permanent, do you know how and why this would stop ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Talking to people at Switch brought up some facts which Mandriva should +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > be aware of: +</I>><i> > - There is a heritage of bad experience that has been made with +</I>><i> > Mandriva. - It is not the first time that I hear the argument Mageia = +</I>><i> > Mandriva +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > = forgetit. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > - Mageia happens at present to be perceived as "just another one of +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > those distros that appear and disappear to oblivion" (maybe with a +</I>><i> > component of unfriendlyness towards Linux). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IMHO, our best bet for such case is to wait, so people can make their +</I>><i> minds and reconsider their position. I am not sure that trying to push +</I>><i> now is good. It take time to recover trust and make people forget where +</I>><i> do we come from. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Our problem is that if we say "we are a mandriva fork", people think of +</I>><i> their bad experiences. If we don't, we appear as just yet another +</I>><i> distro. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So maybe it would be better to engage first with people that do not have +</I>><i> negative experience with Mandriva rather than trying to convince people +</I>><i> who did have ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > By the way, at my university there was a similar experience: Mandriva +</I>><i> > was part of the officially supported infrastructure (mirror, +</I>><i> > consultancy), with fees paid to Mandriva - that broke in dysharmony due +</I>><i> > to bad administrative response from Mandriva, leaving quite some ill +</I>><i> > feeling. Sorry if I wade through these negative arguments, but these +</I>><i> > beyond-the-enthusiast-user spotlights count. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, we should make clear to people that we started the project for the +</I>><i> same reasons that they broke from Mandriva, and that we are aware of the +</I>><i> problems. But IMHO, we should not try too hard to convince them to help +</I>><i> us, just say that we agree with them. The rest will come by itself. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > I think that, when the stable release approaches, a small campaign to +</I>><i> > rectify these prejudices would be an excellent thing. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That sound like a delicate task ( for the aforementioned reasons of +</I>><i> PR ). How would you start ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Talking with the people at Switch who maintain the Switch mirroring +</I>><i> > service, there were also some concrete and technical arguments - I +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > quote, translating from German: +</I>><i> > "the communication with the mirror sites at Mandriva had already been +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > minimal, compared with other distros: announcing releases, checking the +</I>><i> > availability at the mirrors (QA), etc" (which is a mere quote, dont ask +</I>><i> > me to interpret). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Switch is reluctant to maintain a mirror at "assembly language level" +</I>><i> > ("just run rsync every 2 hours"), they would prefer solutions using +</I>><i> > something like MirrorBrain - but probably Mandriva experiences are part +</I>><i> > of the background to this argument. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, what do they need more precisely ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We understand well that they do not want to micromanage the mirror ( I +</I>><i> think no one does ), but then they can for sure understand that we +</I>><i> cannot adapt to everybody too on our side ( ie, another kind of micro +</I>><i> management ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And for mirrorbrain, I do not see how this relate to rsync, as the +</I>><i> software is used on distro side to distribute mirrors lists, if I +</I>><i> understand well. Rsync is still used to mirror around. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If I remember, the problem of switch was "there is not enough users to +</I>><i> justify the mirroring" ( as you explained before ), and I do not think +</I>><i> this will be solved until one or two years, nor that mirrorbrain will +</I>><i> produce more users by magic. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So maybe we should just wait to be credible when asking something to +</I>><i> them and be honest about that ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > At present, putting a mirror on a univeristy site puts it into an +</I>><i> > environment which is in good match to the straightforward rsync approach +</I>><i> > - correct for the alpha period of Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Given the high number of university for all others distributions, I +</I>><i> think this is a good match for most of them :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > But I think that on the long-run there are lessons to be learned from +</I>><i> > the discussion with Switch - mirrors for a stable Mageia should be +</I>><i> > preferably hosted at professionally run mirror sites (who make the kind +</I>><i> > of consideration I quoted above), university solutions should come as +</I>><i> > additional icing. In case of a second round of discussion on how to +</I>><i> > organise Mageia mirrors, it might be a good idea to have that discussion +</I>><i> > with some participation from the mirror sites. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I do not understand what you mean by "professionally run mirror". I +</I>><i> think this doesn't mean what you want it to mean. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Switch.ch core "business" is not to run mirrors, this is to sell +</I>><i> connectivity ( to swiss schools ). The core "business" of a university +</I>><i> is not to host mirrors, but researchers and students. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> From my point of view, there is 2 motivations ( that can be +</I>><i> overlapping ): +</I>><i> - people who run mirrors to help free software +</I>><i> - people who run mirrors because this help them on various level +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A mirror can help to save bandwidth ( for example, free.fr is a french +</I>><i> provider, all linux user will likely go on their mirror as this is +</I>><i> faster ), or to leverage this for peering/trafic negotiation ( see +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2008/09/peering-and-transit.ars">http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2008/09/peering-and-transit.ars</A> , I +</I>><i> also recommend to see <A HREF="http://www.blogg.ch/uploads/peering-playbook.pdf">http://www.blogg.ch/uploads/peering-playbook.pdf</A> , +</I>><i> given at the end of the article ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think most universities does this to help free software, and because +</I>><i> they use internally. I think most volunteer-run mirrors, like the one of +</I>><i> Wobo fall in this category too. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On the contrary, I suppose that most operators ( like switch to some +</I>><i> extend, but for free.fr, belgacom, etc ) does this for peering/trafic +</I>><i> reasons, and that mean they need to have enough traffic for this to be +</I>><i> useful for them, and enough users to justify the need. For now, I do not +</I>><i> think we are in a position to be interesting to this kind of mirrors. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So what we could do is to ask for some metrics so we could now when we +</I>><i> will be able to reach a agreement, and try to have a multiple step +</I>><i> plan : +</I>><i> - first, we try to engage some universities ( or likely minded admins, +</I>><i> such as kernel.org, or others ), to cope with the load of the +</I>><i> distribution. Some being 4/5. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - based on the feedback, we make sure that the documentation is correct, +</I>><i> that our procedure works, etc, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - once we have more and more people ( with metrics that have to be +</I>><i> found ), we try to find more mirrors. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - once we are interesting enough to engage people in the connectivity +</I>><i> business, then we try to engage them ( likely not before one or two +</I>><i> years, maybe more ). +</I></PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003952.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003947.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3946">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3946">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3946">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3946">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003947.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003947.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..257c62592 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003947.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%207%2C%0A%09Issue%2020%20Cooker%20Updates&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik6NLpcwzXyYj9b68v8dL0Q0aFjuXuQje3_FtCi%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003946.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003949.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%207%2C%0A%09Issue%2020%20Cooker%20Updates&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik6NLpcwzXyYj9b68v8dL0Q0aFjuXuQje3_FtCi%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 16:54:45 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003949.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3947">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3947">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3947">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3947">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 9 March 2011 17:47, Doug Laidlaw <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au</A>> wrote: +><i> I have been downloading updates for a while. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> When Alpha 2 is released, do I need to download it, or will the brew in the +</I>><i> cauldron automagically re-brand my system as Alpha 2?  The DVD would be handy +</I>><i> to have as a more current medium for a re-install. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Doug, MDV 2010.2 +</I>><i> +</I> +Please, when posting to the ML don't quote the whole "digest" email :) + +Just updating your cauldron install will make you have Alpha2, you +don't need to make a clean install or use the DVD per se. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003949.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3947">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3947">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3947">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3947">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003948.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003948.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ee9ba8010 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003948.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Sound%20in%20Mageia%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201103091947.28970.jarillon%40abul.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003953.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003950.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?</H1> + <B>Pierre Jarillon</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Sound%20in%20Mageia%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201103091947.28970.jarillon%40abul.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?">jarillon at abul.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 19:47:28 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003950.html">[Mageia-discuss] Toni Korpela invited you to Dropbox! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3948">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3948">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3948">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3948">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le vendredi 4 mars 2011 19:46:31, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +><i> Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 10:03:30 schreef Michael Scherer: +</I>><i> > Le jeudi 03 mars 2011 à 21:51 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +</I>><i> > > Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 17:07:13 schreef Wolfgang Bornath: +</I>><i> > > > I have compared the laptop installation with the desktop installation +</I>><i> > > > (where sound is working) but I can't find any possible reason. +</I>><i> > > > The main point is: pulse does not start because of missing modules - +</I>><i> > > > but because of lacking knowledge I can't find out which modules are +</I>><i> > > > missing and why. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > it is odd, because i tried a laptop installation and the sound worked, +</I>><i> > > (allthough i was just too quiet). +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > i also have the snd_hda_intel driver +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Given the fact that hda is a specification rather than a type of +</I>><i> > hardware ( <A HREF="http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/hdaudio.htm">http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/hdaudio.htm</A> ), it is +</I>><i> > quite unsurprising to have different result with different hardware. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> yes, that is true, snd_hda_intel loads another codec module. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> except, how would this be related to "sound after install without +</I>><i> installing pulse-task-audio" because this is only a kernel module +</I>><i> difference, afaik? +</I>><i> +</I>I have the same problem. Sound was working with alpha1 but after the las t +updates, it is mute. +I use a Midiman Delta 44 which uses snd_ice1712 +The on-board card uses + +$ play /usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Cant-Connect.ogg +ALSA lib pulse.c:229:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection +refused +play FAIL formats: can't open output file `default': snd_pcm_open error: +Connection refused + +Where can I found the synoptic of the sound system in mageia? It is now so +complicated that it is difficult to help to make a good bug report and, of +course, a patch. + +-- +Pierre Jarillon - <A HREF="http://pjarillon.free.fr/">http://pjarillon.free.fr/</A> +Vice-président de l'ABUL : <A HREF="http://abul.org/">http://abul.org/</A> +Microsoft est à l'informatique ce que McDonald est à la gastronomie. +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003950.html">[Mageia-discuss] Toni Korpela invited you to Dropbox! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3948">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3948">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3948">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3948">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003949.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003949.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4369b9812 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003949.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%207%2C%0A%09Issue%2020%20%20Cooker%20Updates&In-Reply-To=%3C201103091953.19431.jarillon%40abul.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003947.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003953.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates</H1> + <B>Pierre Jarillon</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%207%2C%0A%09Issue%2020%20%20Cooker%20Updates&In-Reply-To=%3C201103091953.19431.jarillon%40abul.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates">jarillon at abul.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 19:53:19 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003947.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3949">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3949">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3949">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3949">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 9 mars 2011 16:47:10, Doug Laidlaw a écrit : +><i> When Alpha 2 is released, do I need to download it, or will the brew in +</I>><i> the cauldron automagically re-brand my system as Alpha 2? The DVD would +</I>><i> be handy to have as a more current medium for a re-install. +</I> +My policy is always to burn a DVD and install the iso from the DVD. +Sometimes I find some bugs which cannot be seen with another protocol. + +-- +Pierre Jarillon - <A HREF="http://pjarillon.free.fr/">http://pjarillon.free.fr/</A> +Vice-président de l'ABUL : <A HREF="http://abul.org/">http://abul.org/</A> +Microsoft est à l'informatique ce que McDonald est à la gastronomie. +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003947.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3949">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3949">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3949">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3949">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003950.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003950.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..034ce401a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003950.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Toni Korpela invited you to Dropbox! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Toni%20Korpela%20invited%20you%20to%20Dropbox%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20110309193204.399E547B6FF%40mailman-2.dropboxmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003948.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003958.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Toni Korpela invited you to Dropbox!</H1> + <B>Dropbox</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Toni%20Korpela%20invited%20you%20to%20Dropbox%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20110309193204.399E547B6FF%40mailman-2.dropboxmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Toni Korpela invited you to Dropbox!">no-reply at dropboxmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 20:32:04 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia? 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If you want, I can manage this. + +-- +Pierre Jarillon - <A HREF="http://pjarillon.free.fr/">http://pjarillon.free.fr/</A> +Vice-président de l'ABUL : <A HREF="http://abul.org/">http://abul.org/</A> +Microsoft est à l'informatique ce que McDonald est à la gastronomie. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003952.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3951">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3951">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3951">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3951">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003952.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003952.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9eccb8cdf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003952.html @@ -0,0 +1,63 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Looking%20for%20volunteer%20for%20french%20events&In-Reply-To=%3C201103092347.14193.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003951.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003946.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Looking%20for%20volunteer%20for%20french%20events&In-Reply-To=%3C201103092347.14193.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 23:47:14 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003951.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3952">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3952">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3952">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3952">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op woensdag 09 maart 2011 22:57:03 schreef Pierre Jarillon: +><i> Le mercredi 9 mars 2011 15:53:53, Anne nicolas a écrit : +</I>><i> > Just added in wiki +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:solutions_linux_2011">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:solutions_linux_2011</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A high quality kakemono for less than 100€. If you want, I can manage this. +</I> +heh... +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003951.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3952">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3952">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3952">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3952">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003953.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003953.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fd5b10099 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/003953.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%207%2C%0A%09Issue%2020%20Cooker%20Updates&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimKJ5u9QW%3DEW-jyPe_sQJ-4cyRsTkZFr-ciFTaS%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003949.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003948.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%207%2C%0A%09Issue%2020%20Cooker%20Updates&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimKJ5u9QW%3DEW-jyPe_sQJ-4cyRsTkZFr-ciFTaS%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 9 23:54:13 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003949.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia? 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Mageia will have booth for +</I>><i> Solution Linux 2011 and (to be confirmed) for RMLL. We need +</I>><i> volunteer(s) to organize these events and help poor founders not to +</I>><i> sleep on Mageia work :). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can apply / propose here +</I> +Just added in wiki +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:solutions_linux_2011">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:solutions_linux_2011</A> + +As you can see "main contact" is still to be filled :) + +><i> +</I>><i> Thanks for advance +</I>><i> Cheers +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Anne +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +Anne +<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A> + + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003950.html">[Mageia-discuss] Toni Korpela invited you to Dropbox! +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3958">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3958">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3958">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3958">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2edf6a344 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,162 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 9 March 2011 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>9 March 2011 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Mar 9 01:10:05 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Mar 9 23:54:13 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 23<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="003935.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A><A NAME="3935"> </A> +<I>Tony Blackwell +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003933.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A><A NAME="3933"> </A> +<I>Tony Blackwell +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003940.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia? +</A><A NAME="3940"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003941.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3941"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A><A NAME="3953"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003939.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3939"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003950.html">[Mageia-discuss] Toni Korpela invited you to Dropbox! +</A><A NAME="3950"> </A> +<I>Dropbox +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003937.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia? +</A><A NAME="3937"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003932.html">[Mageia-discuss] Re : Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3932"> </A> +<I>Mehdi Hadjard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003938.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3938"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003943.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3943"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia? +</A><A NAME="3948"> </A> +<I>Pierre Jarillon +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003949.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A><A NAME="3949"> </A> +<I>Pierre Jarillon +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003951.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3951"> </A> +<I>Pierre Jarillon +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A><A NAME="3946"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3945"> </A> +<I>Damien Lallement +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003958.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3958"> </A> +<I>Pierre Opter +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003947.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A><A NAME="3947"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003942.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3942"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003952.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3952"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003934.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3934"> </A> +<I>hmehdia +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003936.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A><A NAME="3936"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003944.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3944"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Wed Mar 9 23:54:13 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Mar 10 21:13:31 CET 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/date.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/date.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..15fede967 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/date.html @@ -0,0 +1,162 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 9 March 2011 Archive by date</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>9 March 2011 Archives by date</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Mar 9 01:10:05 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Mar 9 23:54:13 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 23<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="003932.html">[Mageia-discuss] Re : Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3932"> </A> +<I>Mehdi Hadjard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003934.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3934"> </A> +<I>hmehdia +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003935.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A><A NAME="3935"> </A> +<I>Tony Blackwell +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003933.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A><A NAME="3933"> </A> +<I>Tony Blackwell +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003936.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A><A NAME="3936"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003937.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia? +</A><A NAME="3937"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003938.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3938"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003939.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3939"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003940.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia? +</A><A NAME="3940"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003941.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3941"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003942.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3942"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003943.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3943"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003944.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3944"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3945"> </A> +<I>Damien Lallement +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A><A NAME="3946"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003947.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A><A NAME="3947"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia? +</A><A NAME="3948"> </A> +<I>Pierre Jarillon +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003949.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A><A NAME="3949"> </A> +<I>Pierre Jarillon +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003950.html">[Mageia-discuss] Toni Korpela invited you to Dropbox! +</A><A NAME="3950"> </A> +<I>Dropbox +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003958.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3958"> </A> +<I>Pierre Opter +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003951.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3951"> </A> +<I>Pierre Jarillon +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003952.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3952"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A><A NAME="3953"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Wed Mar 9 23:54:13 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Mar 10 21:13:31 CET 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/index.html new file mode 120000 index 000000000..db4b46f72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/index.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +thread.html
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+</A><A NAME="3935"> </A> +<I>Tony Blackwell +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003933.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A><A NAME="3933"> </A> +<I>Tony Blackwell +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003936.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A><A NAME="3936"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003937.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia? +</A><A NAME="3937"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003940.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia? +</A><A NAME="3940"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003934.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3934"> </A> +<I>hmehdia +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003944.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3944"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3945"> </A> +<I>Damien Lallement +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003958.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3958"> </A> +<I>Pierre Opter +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003951.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3951"> </A> +<I>Pierre Jarillon +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003952.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3952"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A><A NAME="3946"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003949.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A><A NAME="3949"> </A> +<I>Pierre Jarillon +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003947.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A><A NAME="3947"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A><A NAME="3953"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003938.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3938"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003939.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3939"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003941.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3941"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003942.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3942"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003943.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3943"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003932.html">[Mageia-discuss] Re : Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3932"> </A> +<I>Mehdi Hadjard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia? +</A><A NAME="3948"> </A> +<I>Pierre Jarillon +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003950.html">[Mageia-discuss] Toni Korpela invited you to Dropbox! +</A><A NAME="3950"> </A> +<I>Dropbox +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Wed Mar 9 23:54:13 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Mar 10 21:13:31 CET 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/thread.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b0361a59f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110309/thread.html @@ -0,0 +1,199 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 9 March 2011 Archive by thread</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>9 March 2011 Archives by thread</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Mar 9 01:10:05 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Mar 9 23:54:13 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 23<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01299629405- --> +<LI><A HREF="003932.html">[Mageia-discuss] Re : Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3932"> </A> +<I>Mehdi Hadjard +</I> + +<!--0 01299654806- --> +<LI><A HREF="003934.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3934"> </A> +<I>hmehdia +</I> + +<!--0 01299658130- --> +<LI><A HREF="003935.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A><A NAME="3935"> </A> +<I>Tony Blackwell +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01299658130-01299670210- --> +<LI><A HREF="003936.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A><A NAME="3936"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01299658581- --> +<LI><A HREF="003933.html">[Mageia-discuss] alpha1 cooker updates? +</A><A NAME="3933"> </A> +<I>Tony Blackwell +</I> + +<!--0 01299672797- --> +<LI><A HREF="003937.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia? +</A><A NAME="3937"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01299672797-01299676435- --> +<LI><A HREF="003940.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia? +</A><A NAME="3940"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01299674052- --> +<LI><A HREF="003938.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3938"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01299674052-01299676046- --> +<LI><A HREF="003939.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3939"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01299674052-01299676046-01299681761- --> +<LI><A HREF="003943.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3943"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01299674052-01299677504- --> +<LI><A HREF="003941.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3941"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--1 01299674052-01299679296- --> +<LI><A HREF="003942.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mirror +</A><A NAME="3942"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01299682433- --> +<LI><A HREF="003944.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3944"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01299682433-01299683236- --> +<LI><A HREF="003945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3945"> </A> +<I>Damien Lallement +</I> + +<!--1 01299682433-01299707823- --> +<LI><A HREF="003951.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3951"> </A> +<I>Pierre Jarillon +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01299682433-01299707823-01299710834- --> +<LI><A HREF="003952.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3952"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01299685630- --> +<LI><A HREF="003946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A><A NAME="3946"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01299685630-01299686085- --> +<LI><A HREF="003947.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A><A NAME="3947"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<!--1 01299685630-01299696799- --> +<LI><A HREF="003949.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A><A NAME="3949"> </A> +<I>Pierre Jarillon +</I> + +<!--1 01299685630-01299711253- --> +<LI><A HREF="003953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 Cooker Updates +</A><A NAME="3953"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01299696448- --> +<LI><A HREF="003948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia? +</A><A NAME="3948"> </A> +<I>Pierre Jarillon +</I> + +<!--0 01299699124- --> +<LI><A HREF="003950.html">[Mageia-discuss] Toni Korpela invited you to Dropbox! +</A><A NAME="3950"> </A> +<I>Dropbox +</I> + +<!--0 01299701546- --> +<LI><A HREF="003958.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for volunteer for french events +</A><A NAME="3958"> </A> +<I>Pierre Opter +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Wed Mar 9 23:54:13 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Mar 10 21:13:31 CET 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |