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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+ <I>Wed Mar 9 14:31:44 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>2011/3/9 Juergen Harms &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>&gt;:
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+&gt;<i> Talking to people at Switch brought up some facts which Mandriva should be
+</I>&gt;<i> aware of:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- There is a heritage of bad experience that has been made with Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- It is not the first time that I hear the argument Mageia = Mandriva =
+</I>&gt;<i> forgetit.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- Mageia happens at present to be perceived as &quot;just another one of those
+</I>&gt;<i> distros that appear and disappear to oblivion&quot; (maybe with a component of
+</I>&gt;<i> unfriendlyness towards Linux).
+</I>
+Yes, I guess this is based on personal opinions and you can't really fight that.
+
+&gt;<i> By the way, at my university there was a similar experience: Mandriva was
+</I>&gt;<i> part of the officially supported infrastructure (mirror, consultancy), with
+</I>&gt;<i> fees paid to Mandriva - that broke in dysharmony due to bad administrative
+</I>&gt;<i> response from Mandriva, leaving quite some ill feeling. Sorry if I wade
+</I>&gt;<i> through these negative arguments, but these beyond-the-enthusiast-user
+</I>&gt;<i> spotlights count.
+</I>
+You can't compare this setup with anything related to Mageia. Mageia
+does not ask to become a consultant to Switch and Mageia does not ask
+for any fees. Furthermore &quot;bad administrative response&quot; is one of
+those things about Mandriva that Mageia will avoid by all means. It
+was caused by lack of manpower of a commercial company, something
+which is totally different at Mageia.
+
+&gt;<i> I think that, when the stable release approaches, a small campaign to
+</I>&gt;<i> rectify these prejudices would be an excellent thing.
+</I>
+Time to rectify those prejudices is now, at any time at any place (not
+only with mirror providers but in general).
+
+&gt;<i> But I think that on the long-run there are lessons to be learned from the
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion with Switch - mirrors for a stable Mageia should be preferably
+</I>&gt;<i> hosted at professionally run mirror sites (who make the kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> consideration I quoted above), university solutions should come as
+</I>&gt;<i> additional icing. In case of a second round of discussion on how to organise
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia mirrors, it might be a good idea to have that discussion with some
+</I>&gt;<i> participation from the mirror sites.
+</I>
+I can not confirm nor agree to this. As Oliver wrote, 2 universities
+already set up a mirror for Mageia and when looking around worldwide
+who is hosting a Mandriva mirror you will notice that educational
+institutions (aka universities) are the majority.
+
+Using MirrorBrain may or may not be an improvement (I can't judge
+this) but IMHO it should not be a criterium to mirror or not.
+
+Of course, if Switch wants it that way then it is up to the Mageia
+sysadmins to decide what is the better way - implementing MirrorBrain
+to please Switch or not implement it and forget about Switch - not
+speaking about other advantages/disadvantages which may come with
+Mirrorbrain.
+
+--
+wobo
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