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All troubles +i've found on rpm packages are exactly the same i've found on .deb ones. And +all are for the same reason: The package has some error on their build +process (bad dependences, outdated versions of them...) + +So, i see no objective reason to change rpm-packaging system. But we must be +carefully until paranoia when we're building them. A well-done build rpm +package works as smooth and clean than a well-done build .deb one. + +If you're looking some other aspects (i.e. performance of the package +manager) there's no sensible difference for a normal user between both +package types. You can find urpmi slower than apt-get, or viceversa. I've +found opposite opinions about this ever among my colleagues. This leads to +me that i'ts a subjective (or particular system-dependant) estimation. + +Cheers. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/a50f6add/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001380.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001334.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1332">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1332">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1332">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1332">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001333.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001333.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..983558acc --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001333.html @@ -0,0 +1,122 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? 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+So just easy play " urpmi <A HREF="http://www.skype.com/download/skype.deb">http://www.skype.com/download/skype.deb</A>" ;-) +It's auto-manage dependencies and finaly, urpmi launch "apt-get install". +Is it technicaly possible ? +-- +Bonjour (in EN up) +Ma suggestion suivante va paraître débile, mais ... +En créant une nouvelle distribution, ce serait peut-être une bonne idée +d'inventer _enfin_ une sorte de "gestion unifiée" des paquetages deb et rpm. +L'idée est d'encapsuler apt-get dans urpmi. +Ainsi, on lance juste urpmi "URL/téléchargement/fichier.deb" et ça gère +tout seul les dépendances. +Est-ce techniquement possible ? + + + +Le 26/09/2010 23:55, Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela a écrit : +><i> I personally found no practical advantage of using apt-get vs urpmi, +</I>><i> while apt has many nice features urpmi is also solid and works +</I>><i> perfectly in most common cases, the only problem you may have is with +</I>><i> malformed packages or with erroneous dependency information, in which +</I>><i> case the only advantage of apt-get is the fact that Debian takes a lot +</I>><i> of care of having correct and working packages, which most RPM based +</I>><i> distros does too (you may get problems with 3th party repos but that +</I>><i> is another problem). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Being a Mandriva fork we would logically stick with it's tools and +</I>><i> packaging system. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, +</I>><i> Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Kristoffer Grundström +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Why not create a new format with the best of both worlds (if possible)? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> .mageia ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Hoyt Duff skrev 2010-09-26 19:44: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:13 AM, RAVI KUMAR BALASUBRAMANIAM +</I>>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ravikumar17jan at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> only thing i hate about mandriva is its rpm based packages +</I>>><i> i prefer apt and deb personally +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I can understand a personal preference, but why do you believe that +</I>>><i> deb is superior to rpm? Given that Mandriva is already rpm-based, what +</I>>><i> benefit could be derived from abandoning the existing build system and +</I>>><i> urpmi? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> > From everything I have read, neither system has a clear advantage over +</I>>><i> the other, and the end result of using either is essentially the same. +</I>>><i> I don't believe that changing to a deb-based system would provide any +</I>>><i> significant benefit to justify the expense in terms of re-training +</I>>><i> devs and creating a new build system. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001331.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001348.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1333">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1333">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1333">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1333">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001334.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001334.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d12f59f69 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001334.html @@ -0,0 +1,127 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9FD0E7.8090001%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001332.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001350.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9FD0E7.8090001%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 01:01:59 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001332.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001350.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1334">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1334">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1334">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1334">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>P. Christeas wrote: +><i> Let me rant in a rather non-polite tone: +</I>><i> why does *every* Linux distro have to be for Windows users?? Why does every +</I>><i> product need to be targeted at stupid people? (obvious answer: there is lots +</I>><i> of them) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>I think you have to separate "looking like Windows" from "implementing +as does Microsoft". One of the things MS does very well is user +interface design. What they *don't* do so well is implementation: +everything is done through the GUI, and MS oversimplifies by making +choices silently for the user without giving the user the option to +override. + +We're not exactly innocent in this respect either. MDV tools are +excellent, but they need the closure of a full transparent CLI as well +as a GUI. Experts and administrators need to be able to provide +configuration through batch scripts. This is not the case in many +areas. I do a large number of fresh installs intended to create a new +system configured as an existing system was, and it's really annoying to +boot for the first time and then have to invoke several GUIs to do +things like printer configuration, wireless configuration, and font +installation. + +In many areas, we have lost track of the simple fact that a Graphical +User Interface should be just that - an *interface* to a modular and +independent non-graphical module which provides "business logic". It +should never be the only way to access the business logic. Hopefully, +free of Mandriva's corporate restrictions, we can achieve that now. + +Another issue is choice. System tools have to provide a range of choice +suitable for both experts and newbies. While it is acceptable to choose +defaults that will work for newbies out of the box, it is not acceptable +to limit choices for everyone to those defaults. We've done this on +more than one occasion, the most memorable one being to radically change +and lock down the application menu system and refuse to consider any +configuration options that would deviate from this. + +Finally, there is transparency. MDV tools have in many cases extended +the standard Linux way of doing things in imaginative and useful ways. +What they don't do is document those ways so that admins and users used +to standard Linux ways can manually intervene or provide tool +extensions without extensive code reading. Also, there are many +portions of the toolset, e.g. disk partitioning, network sharing, +setting up VPNs, etc., which involve extremely intrusive and possibly +destructive operations. All such tools need to have an option, not +necessarily the default, to display to the user a detailed list of +changes that the tool proposes to make, and prompt for approval. + +The problem here is that advanced users and admins get understandably +scared when a tool proposes to do something that involves modifying +multiple critical configuration files or system resources without +providing the details of the changes so that they can be denied if +unwanted, or undone later if so desired. + +An even better approach would be to have each configuration tool produce +a program-readable file describing actions it takes, much as RPMs +provide, so that the tool, or some general tool running on another +bootable system with access to the root partition of the affected system +could undo the changes. + +I understand why these things were never done in the past. +Management/marketing (and perhaps even some devs) wanted the +windows-like newbie simplification, and didn't have the resources or the +desire to provide the closure of these features. I hope that we can +move past this. +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001332.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001350.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1334">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1334">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1334">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1334">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001335.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001335.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..db15f0ef6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001335.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimGPtHi0ZUsVAbdYdTC5%2BF15BXqAasV_tmyTVsp%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001350.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001389.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy</H1> + <B>vfmBOFH</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimGPtHi0ZUsVAbdYdTC5%2BF15BXqAasV_tmyTVsp%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy">vfmbofh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 01:02:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001350.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001389.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1335">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1335">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1335">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1335">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/26 Sascha Schneider <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">schneider at zawm.be</A>> +><i> +</I>><i> I totally agree to that and I hope Mageia will make this happen. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But I also agree that at this time Mageia has to saddle as a fork, +</I>><i> structures have to be build, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Plus, we wouldn't use Mandriva if we don't like the way it works. So no +</I>><i> need to change to deb or make Gnome the primer Desktop Env. or stuff like +</I>><i> that +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My dream would be a very User and Admin friendly Disto +</I>><i> +</I>><i> One Installer CD for Desktop Dualarch - metapacks for the desktop env +</I>><i> One Installer CD for a Serverversion inkl. LXDE + MMC-base and metapaks for +</I>><i> some spezial apps inkl. the MMC modules (and pulse) +</I>><i> One Installer CD for a Virtualserver using f.e. OpenVZ and a MMC based +</I>><i> webui and some community templates +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In my opinion with this simple trippelisation you can arrange all kind of +</I>><i> home, business, school, multimedia, netbook ... structures you ever imagine +</I>><i> all with one Distro. +</I>><i> +</I> +That's very, very near of my own vision for a "perfect" Linux OS. We have +the big advantage that everything yet still not done. And we count with +tools (delta-rpms, metapackages) to build a core system with "add-ons" (like +server packages, desktop packages...) improving modularity and system +organization. + +At the same time, i'm aware that it can be a too big break from the mageia's +origins (in the meaning of system's scheme and organization). So, if we can +progressively drive mageia to this new scheme sounds reasonable too. + +Cheers. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/824696d2/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001350.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001389.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1335">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1335">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1335">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1335">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001336.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001336.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..77efc36d5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001336.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3CSNT124-W3FBA1BA8C0245C166EC709F650%40phx.gbl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001389.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001338.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic</H1> + <B>paulo ricardo</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3CSNT124-W3FBA1BA8C0245C166EC709F650%40phx.gbl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic">paulo_ricardogo at hotmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 02:01:29 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001389.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001338.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1336">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1336">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1336">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1336">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> +I am not proposing to replace the "URPMI" by the "APT-RPM! I'm proposing we change the "Rpmdrake" with "Synaptic" and keeping the "URPMI! +The URPMI is very good, plus the "Rpmdrake" is horrible! + +We discuss these things before the programming work to eat. We must define how the O.S should be! this discussion is important because the GUI package management directly influences the daily work in an OS! + +My proposal is that we keep the rpm and urpmi! 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I'm +</I>><i> proposing we change the "Rpmdrake" with "Synaptic" and keeping the +</I>><i> "URPMI! The URPMI is very good, plus the "Rpmdrake" is horrible! +</I> +Instead of saying "rpmdrake is horrible", it would be more useful if you +list what you don't like so it can be improved. No tool is perfect, I'm +sure Synaptic has flaws to, so just switching to Synaptic only means +trading one set of flaws for another. + +Personally I find rpmdrake works perfectly fine (the startup speed +could need improving though), it does all I need it to do (and I would +consider myself an advanced user, since I have 15 years Linux experience +and work as a sysadmin) and then there are always the urpmi CLI tools as +alternative. + +So lets stop wasting time by talking badly about all those things that +make Mandriva (and therefore Mageia) the great distro it is, and instead +lets concentrate on improving (rather than replacing) the tools of +Madriva/Mageia. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001336.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001344.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1338">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1338">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1338">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1338">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001339.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001339.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3abcb56de --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001339.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Developer%20Version/Edition%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9FF0A1.6070704%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001367.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001347.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition?</H1> + <B>Ireneusz Gierlach</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Developer%20Version/Edition%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9FF0A1.6070704%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition?">irek.gierlach at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 03:17:21 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001367.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001347.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1339">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1339">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1339">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1339">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> I just thought of this, and I have never seen that done, so I'm not +sure how it would (if) work exactly. +I was thinking about creating a specific version of the OS that would +consist of all development tools required to build packages, develop +components, etc. This would provide the same environment for all +developers, and help in bug fixing, as they would all have the same +packages (by default, I was also thinking about implementing a better +version of Mandriva's Package Stats with an ability to input a list of +packages [from the bug reporter] so the tester can automatically +download the same versions). It is just a thought, but I would love to +see something like this implemented. I want to see what you guys think +of this too ;) (I'm trying to create something like this but not for OS +but for a framework, so I want to see some opinions.) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001367.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001347.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1339">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1339">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1339">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1339">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001340.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001340.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f79a1c4aa --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001340.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? 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They +</I>>><i> could make a contract that the profits from the SA would go to the +</I>>><i> association and/or the shareholders and/or the employed volunteers at +</I>>><i> certain agreed percentages of the earnings. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> This is something we expect and welcome to happen: companies providing +</I>><i> commercial support and services from and around the distribution. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We expect this to happen as they would need, to be consistent with +</I>><i> their own business, to contribute back to the Mageia project: be it +</I>><i> upstream patches, sponsoring, resources, developers time, any other +</I>><i> role, etc. (of course, such a contribution would not, in any case, +</I>><i> alter the governance of the project). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Indeed, licensing and guidelines for this to happen smoothly have to +</I>><i> be thought out properly. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Romain +</I>><i> _____ +</I>><i> +</I>Note that gpl v3 doesn't require that 3rd parties contribute back to the +Mageia project, although Mageia could make that an additional requirement. +The GPL v3 does require that any changes that are conveyed to other +parties, be conveyed with the source code and a GPL v3 licence. +However if a customer contracts exclusive modifications not to be +conveyed to other parties, then under GPL v3 there is explicitly no +requirement to release this code (source or not) to any other party. +This should not be required by Mageia, either, as this provision allows +companies to make confidential modifications of GPL software for their +own exclusive use, or to commission others to do so for them. +Note that as Romain says, it generally would be in the interest of third +parties to contribute back changes to Mageia, particularly bug fixes. + +Also note that support doesn't necessarily involve changes to GPL +covered code. +There could be no coding involved. The coding could be not an integral +part of the GPL code. Or the code could link to a LGPL library, and +thus not be restricted. +Personally, I've done a lot of support covered by these situations. + +In short, there would be no problem for Mageia to maintain a list of +third parties wanting to do commercial support, as long as Mageia is not +a party to such transactions. + +- André +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001345.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001382.html">[Mageia-discuss] commercial support +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1341">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1341">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1341">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1341">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001342.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001342.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b3ae2e46e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001342.html @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-se.org + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-se.org&In-Reply-To=%3CCE2B28C2-529C-427E-A8CE-82F507C7E654%40ngweb.se%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001382.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001343.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-se.org</H1> + <B>David V. Wallin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-se.org&In-Reply-To=%3CCE2B28C2-529C-427E-A8CE-82F507C7E654%40ngweb.se%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-se.org">david at ngweb.se + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 04:42:33 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001382.html">[Mageia-discuss] commercial support +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001343.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1342">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1342">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1342">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1342">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE><A HREF="http://mageia-se.org">http://mageia-se.org</A> is now online. +Its far from finished but some of the members on mandriva-se.org has been pushing me to get something up around mageia instead. +The base of the site is buddypress with a few modifications and i'll add a few more patches soon but the main thought of the site +is to offer the social aspect since i know thats something many users have missed on other community-sites i've been running. + +Hows the work coming along for the official Mageia website? + + +---- + +Betygsätt gärna mitt mail! +<A HREF="http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/">http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/</A> + +---- + +Best Regards / Vänligen , + +Stockholm Next Generation Web +David V. 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It can +</I>><i> sit on top of urpmi (I think, since I can do manual installs that show +</I>><i> up in Synaptic also), so it makes a good add-on. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> --------------- +</I>><i> Lorne Schachter +</I>><i> 136 Washington Ave +</I>><i> Edison, NJ 08817 +</I>><i> (732)819-9176 +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lorne at isp.com</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On 09/26/2010 03:22 PM, paulo ricardo wrote: +</I>>><i> When the mandrake joined with Conectiva they will throw away the +</I>>><i> package manager developed by the Brazilian company, the "Synaptic"! +</I>>><i> Synaptic began to be adopted in debian systems, and these systems now +</I>>><i> exceed the mandriva! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> We should keep the center of control over the exchange through +</I>>><i> Synaptic package manager and deploy a second interface for users with +</I>>><i> less knowledge. +</I> +Not sure if I get what this thread is about. APT and Synaptic are in +Mandriva repos. I've used apt and synaptic in Mandriva, openSuSE, and +Fedora. In Mandriva I actually prefer rpmdrake but the choice is and has +been there since I started in Linux with Fedora Core 3. Whenever that +was. Given that is that it requires apt for rpm. + +Does anyone really think there's a snowballs chance in New Orleans of +Mageia devs going to .deb packages? Not that there's anything wrong with +that... +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001342.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-se.org +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001360.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1343">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1343">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1343">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1343">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001344.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001344.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f949ff3aa --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001344.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA015BC.9030103%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001338.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001337.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic</H1> + <B>Dwight Paige</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA015BC.9030103%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic">dwightpaige79 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 05:55:40 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001338.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001337.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1344">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1344">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1344">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1344">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> +><i> Instead of saying "rpmdrake is horrible", it would be more useful if you +</I>><i> list what you don't like so it can be improved. No tool is perfect, I'm +</I>><i> sure Synaptic has flaws to, so just switching to Synaptic only means +</I>><i> trading one set of flaws for another. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Personally I find rpmdrake works perfectly fine (the startup speed +</I>><i> could need improving though), it does all I need it to do (and I would +</I>><i> consider myself an advanced user, since I have 15 years Linux experience +</I>><i> and work as a sysadmin) and then there are always the urpmi CLI tools as +</I>><i> alternative. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So lets stop wasting time by talking badly about all those things that +</I>><i> make Mandriva (and therefore Mageia) the great distro it is, and instead +</I>><i> lets concentrate on improving (rather than replacing) the tools of +</I>><i> Madriva/Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +What specifically is worse about .rpm packages vs. .deb packages? I've +used both and don't have a clue why someone would believe .deb is +inherently better than .rpm. + +Also, what does synaptic do that rpmdrake doesn't do? Why are some users +clamoring for synaptic and add those features to rpmdrake? And would +these questions get a better answer on +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> or +<A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-dev?">irc://irc.freenode.net/mageia-dev?</A> + + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001338.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001337.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1344">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1344">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1344">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1344">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001345.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001345.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..13fa44e46 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001345.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? 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And it is easier to follow your +train of thought if you replay just after a comment. Neither of which +is possible if you "top post". + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001366.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001349.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1346">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1346">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1346">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1346">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001347.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001347.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f6c1f71b2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001347.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Developer%20Version/Edition%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0254E.9030501%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001339.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001365.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition?</H1> + <B>andré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20Developer%20Version/Edition%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0254E.9030501%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition?">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 07:02:06 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001339.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001365.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1347">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1347">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1347">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1347">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Ireneusz Gierlach a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> I just thought of this, and I have never seen that done, so I'm not +</I>><i> sure how it would (if) work exactly. +</I>><i> I was thinking about creating a specific version of the OS that would +</I>><i> consist of all development tools required to build packages, develop +</I>><i> components, etc. This would provide the same environment for all +</I>><i> developers, and help in bug fixing, as they would all have the same +</I>><i> packages (by default, I was also thinking about implementing a better +</I>><i> version of Mandriva's Package Stats with an ability to input a list of +</I>><i> packages [from the bug reporter] so the tester can automatically +</I>><i> download the same versions). It is just a thought, but I would love to +</I>><i> see something like this implemented. I want to see what you guys think +</I>><i> of this too ;) (I'm trying to create something like this but not for +</I>><i> OS but for a framework, so I want to see some opinions.) +</I>Just need to add some options to the package selection on initial +installation. +If I remember correctly, already Mandriva has a development option, +which presumably installs most if not all of the development packages on +the DVD. +In any case, there is a tree for selecting packages by group (server, +etc), as well as the option to select specific packages individually. +(I prefer selecting individual packages myself.) +Of course, Mandriva's current state is the starting point for Mageia. +By the way, this feature was inherited from Red Hat, from which Mandriva +originally forked. + +-André +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001339.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001365.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1347">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1347">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1347">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1347">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001348.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001348.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fb37cb4e3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001348.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100927080934.0447a349%40laptop%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001333.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001356.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?</H1> + <B>Sandro Cazzaniga</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100927080934.0447a349%40laptop%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?">cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 08:09:34 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001333.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001356.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1348">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1348">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1348">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1348">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le Mon, 27 Sep 2010 00:40:44 +0200, +Lucien-Henry Horvath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tempo2 at marneau.eu</A>> a écrit : + +><i> My suggestion is a little crazy ... +</I>><i> With the new departure of this distro, perhaps is it a good idea to +</I>><i> invent a sort of "unified managment" of DEV / RPM. +</I>><i> We start on urpmi, and add to urpmi the abilities to encapsulate +</I>><i> apt-get ? So just easy play " urpmi +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.skype.com/download/skype.deb">http://www.skype.com/download/skype.deb</A>" ;-) It's auto-manage +</I>><i> dependencies and finaly, urpmi launch "apt-get install". Is it +</I>><i> technicaly possible ? +</I>A software (call "alien") do that yet. MAgeia will probably use rpm for +keep urpm*, mcc and rpmdrake. +Stop this discussion that is useless, please. + +-- +Sandro Cazzaniga +Bashburn hacker (<A HREF="http://bashburn.dose.se/">http://bashburn.dose.se/</A>) +Mageia Contributor (<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/fr/">http://www.mageia.org/fr/</A>) +Serial Blogger (<A HREF="http://twitter.com/Kharec">http://twitter.com/Kharec</A>) +Developer (Perl, Bash, C) +Vice President, secretary and member of CA of Alolise +(<A HREF="http://www.alolise.org">http://www.alolise.org</A>) +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001333.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001356.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1348">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1348">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1348">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1348">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001349.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001349.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bd60a685c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001349.html @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim2ZhNKA4KaHjgBWx%2B2G%2BE-1GmSauDMJzrikYge%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001346.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001351.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy</H1> + <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim2ZhNKA4KaHjgBWx%2B2G%2BE-1GmSauDMJzrikYge%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy">msdobrescu at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 08:31:36 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001346.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001351.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1349">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1349">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1349">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1349">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>First, why people chose Linux? +I think because it is free (of charge in the beginning). There is a learn +curve for Windows too, you still need to do lots of tweaks if you really +need to use it at full power. Linux too. So I wouldn't talk about the costs +in this matter. +Then, it has the source open. Here comes the real freedom. At least I know +that somebody will discover if some app will spy on you. You never know what +kind of info Windows send to the mother ship and when. +Not to talk about the opportunity to adapt the code... +And, not at least, come the things that could not do with Windows. +Secondly, why people would chose Mageia? +Now, the followers count to see the Mandriva's quality in a better way of +communication. I think the Mandriva's distro is the base in all aspects. + +After that, it is place to improvement. Who knows, maybe Mageia will have +its own life, far from Mandriva's path, but at same quality at least. + +Me, personally, from the usability point of use, I would like it close as it +is now in terms of available packages. I would like to have the opportunity +to poll for some apps (that was the Mandriva Club members privilege afaik). +I would like to have one DVD with all the stuff and an installer to allow me +to install a server, a desktop, or to start a "live CD" environment. And a +second DVD with the sources. Different choices in different settings, but +same packages. I hate the idea of having several CD/DVD flavors (of course, +to be available as many users would like that). I would focus on 64 bit (I +have 64 bit cpu since the first one appeared on the market, now nobody does +32 bit cpus, even for multimedia, afaik). I would like to have some visual +improvement on the desktop and a lighter KDE (but that's KDE team's job). I +would like to have the KDE as classy as Gnome, but with KDE's plugability. + +What I think it is a must in order to achieve success, as in Ubuntu's case, +is a good collection of How to's. 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Christeas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C201009270954.25470.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy">p_christ at hol.gr + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 08:54:23 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001334.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001335.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1350">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1350">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1350">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1350">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Monday 27 September 2010, Frank Griffin wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We're not exactly innocent in this respect either. ... +</I> +I perfectly agree + + + +-- +Say NO to spam and viruses. Stop using Microsoft Windows! +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001334.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001335.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1350">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1350">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1350">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1350">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001351.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001351.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..06f462b73 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001351.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] ny opinion + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ny%20opinion&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA048BA.2090700%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001349.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001353.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion</H1> + <B>david</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ny%20opinion&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA048BA.2090700%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion">david.naura at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 09:33:14 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001349.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001353.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1351">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1351">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1351">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1351">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/fa0f153a/attachment.html> +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: david_naura.vcf +Type: text/x-vcard +Size: 229 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/fa0f153a/attachment.vcf> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001349.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001353.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1351">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1351">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1351">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1351">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001352.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001352.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e61062e8a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001352.html @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20On%20the%20icons%2C%20desktop%20themes%20and%20related%20stuff&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA04B04.2090609%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001377.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001354.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff</H1> + <B>david</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20On%20the%20icons%2C%20desktop%20themes%20and%20related%20stuff&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA04B04.2090609%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff">david.naura at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 09:43:00 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001377.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001354.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss - rpm or deb? 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But i doubt it' ll be used in mageia Im also fond of Bordeaux. That's a color, too? +</I>>><i> Sorry... +</I>>><i> Oliver +</I>><i> The psychology explains many sensations related to color. For example, the colors yellow, red and white awaken hunger in their viewers; So many restaurants use combinations of these colors in their decorations, the taskbar in KDE / Windows is at the bottom of the screen because we pay more attention to what which is at the bottom of our vision. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think it would be a good idea to ask some tips from a psychologist, can be a great advantage of marketing to our advantage, because many community distros simply ignore this factors because they do not know it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Reguards. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _____________________________________________________________ +</I>><i> Washington DC's Largest FREE Email service. ---> <A HREF="http://www.DCemail.com">http://www.DCemail.com</A> ---> A Washington Online Community Member ---> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.DCpages.com">http://www.DCpages.com</A> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>And why not propose a project to a laboratory of a university. 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Ils veulent que se soit beau et que sa fonctionne +sans avoir a y passer des heures en documentation et essai. PEUT ON LEUR EN +VOULOIR ??? + +Donc pour moi +1 :-) + + + + +________________________________ +De : "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A>" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A>> +À : <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +Envoyé le : Lun 27 septembre 2010, 3h 15min 31s +Objet : Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 191 + +Send Mageia-discuss mailing list submissions to + <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> + +To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit + <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to + <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> + +You can reach the person managing the list at + <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-owner at mageia.org</A> + +When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific +than "Re: Contents of Mageia-discuss digest..." + + +Today's Topics: + + 1. Re: rpm or deb? (Lucien-Henry Horvath) + 2. Re: Mageia's strategy (Frank Griffin) + 3. Re: Mageia's strategy (vfmBOFH) + 4. Mageia with Synaptic (paulo ricardo) + 5. Re: rpm or deb? (Tux99) + 6. Re: Mageia with Synaptic (Tux99) + 7. Mageia Developer Version/Edition? (Ireneusz Gierlach) + + +---------------------------------------------------------------------- + +Message: 1 +Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 00:40:44 +0200 +From: Lucien-Henry Horvath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tempo2 at marneau.eu</A>> +To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">4C9FCBEC.106 at marneau.eu</A>> +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed + +Hi, (en FR en-dessous) +My suggestion is a little crazy ... +With the new departure of this distro, perhaps is it a good idea to +invent a sort of "unified managment" of DEV / RPM. +We start on urpmi, and add to urpmi the abilities to encapsulate apt-get ? +So just easy play " urpmi <A HREF="http://www.skype.com/download/skype.deb">http://www.skype.com/download/skype.deb</A>" ;-) +It's auto-manage dependencies and finaly, urpmi launch "apt-get install". +Is it technicaly possible ? +-- +Bonjour (in EN up) +Ma suggestion suivante va para?tre d?bile, mais ... +En cr?ant une nouvelle distribution, ce serait peut-?tre une bonne id?e +d'inventer _enfin_ une sorte de "gestion unifi?e" des paquetages deb et rpm. +L'id?e est d'encapsuler apt-get dans urpmi. +Ainsi, on lance juste urpmi "URL/t?l?chargement/fichier.deb" et ?a g?re +tout seul les d?pendances. +Est-ce techniquement possible ? + + + +Le 26/09/2010 23:55, Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela a ?crit : +><i> I personally found no practical advantage of using apt-get vs urpmi, +</I>><i> while apt has many nice features urpmi is also solid and works +</I>><i> perfectly in most common cases, the only problem you may have is with +</I>><i> malformed packages or with erroneous dependency information, in which +</I>><i> case the only advantage of apt-get is the fact that Debian takes a lot +</I>><i> of care of having correct and working packages, which most RPM based +</I>><i> distros does too (you may get problems with 3th party repos but that +</I>><i> is another problem). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Being a Mandriva fork we would logically stick with it's tools and +</I>><i> packaging system. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, +</I>><i> Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Kristoffer Grundstr?m +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Why not create a new format with the best of both worlds (if possible)? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> .mageia ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Hoyt Duff skrev 2010-09-26 19:44: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:13 AM, RAVI KUMAR BALASUBRAMANIAM +</I>>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ravikumar17jan at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> only thing i hate about mandriva is its rpm based packages +</I>>><i> i prefer apt and deb personally +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I can understand a personal preference, but why do you believe that +</I>>><i> deb is superior to rpm? Given that Mandriva is already rpm-based, what +</I>>><i> benefit could be derived from abandoning the existing build system and +</I>>><i> urpmi? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> > From everything I have read, neither system has a clear advantage over +</I>>><i> the other, and the end result of using either is essentially the same. +</I>>><i> I don't believe that changing to a deb-based system would provide any +</I>>><i> significant benefit to justify the expense in terms of re-training +</I>>><i> devs and creating a new build system. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> + + +------------------------------ + +Message: 2 +Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 19:01:59 -0400 +From: Frank Griffin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>> +To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">4C9FD0E7.8090001 at roadrunner.com</A>> +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 + +P. Christeas wrote: +><i> Let me rant in a rather non-polite tone: +</I>><i> why does *every* Linux distro have to be for Windows users?? Why does every +</I>><i> product need to be targeted at stupid people? (obvious answer: there is lots +</I>><i> of them) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>I think you have to separate "looking like Windows" from "implementing +as does Microsoft". One of the things MS does very well is user +interface design. What they *don't* do so well is implementation: +everything is done through the GUI, and MS oversimplifies by making +choices silently for the user without giving the user the option to +override. + +We're not exactly innocent in this respect either. MDV tools are +excellent, but they need the closure of a full transparent CLI as well +as a GUI. Experts and administrators need to be able to provide +configuration through batch scripts. This is not the case in many +areas. I do a large number of fresh installs intended to create a new +system configured as an existing system was, and it's really annoying to +boot for the first time and then have to invoke several GUIs to do +things like printer configuration, wireless configuration, and font +installation. + +In many areas, we have lost track of the simple fact that a Graphical +User Interface should be just that - an *interface* to a modular and +independent non-graphical module which provides "business logic". It +should never be the only way to access the business logic. Hopefully, +free of Mandriva's corporate restrictions, we can achieve that now. + +Another issue is choice. System tools have to provide a range of choice +suitable for both experts and newbies. While it is acceptable to choose +defaults that will work for newbies out of the box, it is not acceptable +to limit choices for everyone to those defaults. We've done this on +more than one occasion, the most memorable one being to radically change +and lock down the application menu system and refuse to consider any +configuration options that would deviate from this. + +Finally, there is transparency. MDV tools have in many cases extended +the standard Linux way of doing things in imaginative and useful ways. +What they don't do is document those ways so that admins and users used +to standard Linux ways can manually intervene or provide tool +extensions without extensive code reading. Also, there are many +portions of the toolset, e.g. disk partitioning, network sharing, +setting up VPNs, etc., which involve extremely intrusive and possibly +destructive operations. All such tools need to have an option, not +necessarily the default, to display to the user a detailed list of +changes that the tool proposes to make, and prompt for approval. + +The problem here is that advanced users and admins get understandably +scared when a tool proposes to do something that involves modifying +multiple critical configuration files or system resources without +providing the details of the changes so that they can be denied if +unwanted, or undone later if so desired. + +An even better approach would be to have each configuration tool produce +a program-readable file describing actions it takes, much as RPMs +provide, so that the tool, or some general tool running on another +bootable system with access to the root partition of the affected system +could undo the changes. + +I understand why these things were never done in the past. +Management/marketing (and perhaps even some devs) wanted the +windows-like newbie simplification, and didn't have the resources or the +desire to provide the closure of these features. I hope that we can +move past this. + + +------------------------------ + +Message: 3 +Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 01:02:35 +0200 +From: vfmBOFH <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">vfmbofh at gmail.com</A>> +To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +Message-ID: + <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">AANLkTimGPtHi0ZUsVAbdYdTC5+F15BXqAasV_tmyTVsp at mail.gmail.com</A>> +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" + +2010/9/26 Sascha Schneider <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">schneider at zawm.be</A>> +><i> +</I>><i> I totally agree to that and I hope Mageia will make this happen. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But I also agree that at this time Mageia has to saddle as a fork, +</I>><i> structures have to be build, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Plus, we wouldn't use Mandriva if we don't like the way it works. So no +</I>><i> need to change to deb or make Gnome the primer Desktop Env. or stuff like +</I>><i> that +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My dream would be a very User and Admin friendly Disto +</I>><i> +</I>><i> One Installer CD for Desktop Dualarch - metapacks for the desktop env +</I>><i> One Installer CD for a Serverversion inkl. LXDE + MMC-base and metapaks for +</I>><i> some spezial apps inkl. the MMC modules (and pulse) +</I>><i> One Installer CD for a Virtualserver using f.e. OpenVZ and a MMC based +</I>><i> webui and some community templates +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In my opinion with this simple trippelisation you can arrange all kind of +</I>><i> home, business, school, multimedia, netbook ... structures you ever imagine +</I>><i> all with one Distro. +</I>><i> +</I> +That's very, very near of my own vision for a "perfect" Linux OS. We have +the big advantage that everything yet still not done. And we count with +tools (delta-rpms, metapackages) to build a core system with "add-ons" (like +server packages, desktop packages...) improving modularity and system +organization. + +At the same time, i'm aware that it can be a too big break from the mageia's +origins (in the meaning of system's scheme and organization). So, if we can +progressively drive mageia to this new scheme sounds reasonable too. + +Cheers. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: +</pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/824696d2/attachment-0001.html> + +------------------------------ + +Message: 4 +Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 03:01:29 +0300 +From: paulo ricardo <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">paulo_ricardogo at hotmail.com</A>> +To: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +Subject: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">SNT124-W3FBA1BA8C0245C166EC709F650 at phx.gbl</A>> +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" + + +I am not proposing to replace the "URPMI" by the "APT-RPM! I'm proposing we +change the "Rpmdrake" with "Synaptic" and keeping the "URPMI! +The URPMI is very good, plus the "Rpmdrake" is horrible! + +We discuss these things before the programming work to eat. We must define how +the O.S should be! this discussion is important because the GUI package +management directly influences the daily work in an OS! + +My proposal is that we keep the rpm and urpmi! But substitute Rpmdrake by +Synaptic, and creating a second interface aimed at users with less knowledge. + + +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: +</pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/c7111483/attachment-0001.html> + +------------------------------ + +Message: 5 +Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 02:19:57 +0200 (CEST) +From: Tux99 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>> +To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Pine.LNX.4.44.1009270212430.9293-100000 at outpost-priv</A>> +Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII + +On Sun, 26 Sep 2010, Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela wrote: + +><i> Being a Mandriva fork we would logically stick with it's tools and +</I>><i> packaging system. +</I> +Agreed, if we start questioning everything we might as well all go home. + +Mandriva/Mageia are rpm distros and I would expect them to stay like +that otherwise we could just all use Debian or one of it's derivatives. + +urpmi is at least as good as apt-get, if anyone finds that urpmi lacks a +feature that apt-get has, then please suggest it (not now, later when +Mageia is set up) so it can be considered to add that feature to urpmi, +but that's definitely not a reason to abandon urpmi. + + + +------------------------------ + +Message: 6 +Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 02:56:24 +0200 (CEST) +From: Tux99 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>> +To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Pine.LNX.4.44.1009270248310.9293-100000 at outpost-priv</A>> +Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII + +On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, paulo ricardo wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> I am not proposing to replace the "URPMI" by the "APT-RPM! I'm +</I>><i> proposing we change the "Rpmdrake" with "Synaptic" and keeping the +</I>><i> "URPMI! The URPMI is very good, plus the "Rpmdrake" is horrible! +</I> +Instead of saying "rpmdrake is horrible", it would be more useful if you +list what you don't like so it can be improved. No tool is perfect, I'm +sure Synaptic has flaws to, so just switching to Synaptic only means +trading one set of flaws for another. + +Personally I find rpmdrake works perfectly fine (the startup speed +could need improving though), it does all I need it to do (and I would +consider myself an advanced user, since I have 15 years Linux experience +and work as a sysadmin) and then there are always the urpmi CLI tools as +alternative. + +So lets stop wasting time by talking badly about all those things that +make Mandriva (and therefore Mageia) the great distro it is, and instead +lets concentrate on improving (rather than replacing) the tools of +Madriva/Mageia. + + + +------------------------------ + +Message: 7 +Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:17:21 -0400 +From: Ireneusz Gierlach <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">irek.gierlach at gmail.com</A>> +To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +Subject: [Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">4C9FF0A1.6070704 at gmail.com</A>> +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed + + I just thought of this, and I have never seen that done, so I'm not +sure how it would (if) work exactly. +I was thinking about creating a specific version of the OS that would +consist of all development tools required to build packages, develop +components, etc. This would provide the same environment for all +developers, and help in bug fixing, as they would all have the same +packages (by default, I was also thinking about implementing a better +version of Mandriva's Package Stats with an ability to input a list of +packages [from the bug reporter] so the tester can automatically +download the same versions). It is just a thought, but I would love to +see something like this implemented. 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Ils veulent que se +</I>><i> soit beau et que sa fonctionne sans avoir a y passer des heures en +</I>><i> documentation et essai. PEUT ON LEUR EN VOULOIR ??? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Donc pour moi +1 :-) +</I>><i> +</I>As said before, please : + use the langage chose for the list (english here) + do not top-post + remove non-pertinent parts of the previous message + +Thank you + +Marianne / Jehane + +-- +Marianne (Jehane) Lombard +Mandriva User - Mageia french translation team +Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a lot of chocolate) - Terry Pratchett + +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/11fdef89/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001354.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss - rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001357.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1355">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1355">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1355">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1355">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001356.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001356.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..31f504289 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001356.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? 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Please read this thread (in French) on the +subject : +<A HREF="http://www.developpez.net/forums/d979620/c-cpp/cpp/langage/t-sens-dire-java-langage-plus-niveau-cpp/">http://www.developpez.net/forums/d979620/c-cpp/cpp/langage/t-sens-dire-java-langage-plus-niveau-cpp/</A> +However I agree this is too much of a technical issue to be discussed on +the list. +Cheers. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/864e3bb9/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001355.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss - rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001358.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1357">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1357">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1357">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1357">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001358.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001358.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..af03b9542 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001358.html @@ -0,0 +1,108 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim1B%3DOw4vVo1KhthmwTwEgtLK1yTx3vrOOTuapH%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001357.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001359.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?</H1> + <B>Giuseppe Ghibò</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim1B%3DOw4vVo1KhthmwTwEgtLK1yTx3vrOOTuapH%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?">ghibomgx at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 11:11:09 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001357.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001359.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads - Use IMAP? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1358">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1358">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1358">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1358">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/26 Kristoffer Grundström <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com</A>> + +><i> Why not create a new format with the best of both worlds (if possible)? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> .mageia ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> [...] +</I>><i> +</I> +Creating a new format is not that easy (though not impossible). Current .rpm +or .deb are package formats which started development several years ago. +Consider also that switching to another package format would require +re-training for the packagers who might be be used to the .spec file only. + +><i>From technical point of view we have to distinguish the package format, +</I>which might be .deb, or .rpm from the package frontends (apt, urpmi, yum, +emerge, etc.) which retrieves packages and their dependency packages from +the repositories. Actually even on mandriva, some alternative frontend to +urpmi can be used (IIRC there is "smart"). Speaking about frontends, I had +the "feeling" that apt bundled with .deb was a little bit faster than +urpmi+rpm, especially on global upgrades of a whole distro on not so new +hardware (e.g. an i586...), i.e. upgrading for instance from a mandriva +2010.0 to a 2010.1 or from a ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10. But maybe it's because +.deb is doing fewer checks on files, dunno. Remaining on the .rpm world, the +bundle urpmi+rpm seems to me also faster than yum+rpm. + +IMHO it could be also taken under advisement the rpm5 format ( +<A HREF="http://www.rpm5.org">http://www.rpm5.org</A>), that someone already cited for mandriva some time ago. +IIRC it should be faster than rpm4, and would allow parallel package +installation. + +If comparisons should be made for a decision, maybe on the wiki it could be +added a table with the basic features of such tools (e.g. performance, LSB +compliance, coerency, update, docs, compression, etc.), and the advantage of +switching to a new one or a missed feature. + +G. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/082431ac/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001357.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001359.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads - Use IMAP? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1358">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1358">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1358">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1358">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001359.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001359.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8d3a2f62d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001359.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads - Use IMAP? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Help%20about%20gmane%20and%20broken%20threads%20-%20Use%20IMAP%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271121.07065.fri%40tribun.eu%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001358.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001364.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads - Use IMAP?</H1> + <B>Morgan Leijström</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Help%20about%20gmane%20and%20broken%20threads%20-%20Use%20IMAP%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271121.07065.fri%40tribun.eu%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads - Use IMAP?">fri at tribun.eu + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 11:21:06 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001358.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001364.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads - Use IMAP? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1359">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1359">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1359">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1359">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Den 2010-09-26 18:58:22 skrev Wolfgang Bornath: + +><i> Right now I'm using googlemail with the mailing lists and it is +</I>><i> getting more chaotic every hour. +</I> +Never tried googlemail so I am not sure what is chaotic. +However, i say: + + +Maybe use mailing list delivery to your mail account, and use IMAP to connect +to your mail account from your computers, clients set to not delete on +server. + +Then your clients can sort as you wish, you can delete efficciently manually +or have _one_ of your clients set to automatically delete or +fetch_by_POP+delete messages elder than xx days, or whatever it can do. + +Normally clients can make folders on the sefver if you wish to sort mails +manually (or automatically) and can be set to store sent mail back on a +separate folder on the server if you wish. + + +I have both my laptop and work computer to connect to a few same accounts, and +while i think IMAP is not designed for concurrently handling more than one +client fr each account(?) i have not had much trouble. + +I even have my work computer fetch by POP from the work account and leave last +30 days mail. And i can connect to the same account by IMAP from my lappy to +check the last months work mail from home, when i travel, whatever. +And use the other way around for private mail. + +Note: i have experienced some clients do not do as i expected, +byt not sure if it is me or the clients ;) Kmail works for me. + +I donṫ understand why IMAP seem to be used by so few users. +Webmail i tried earlier was much slower, clumsier, and limiting. + +/Morgan +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001358.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001364.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads - Use IMAP? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1359">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1359">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1359">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1359">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001360.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001360.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..860da23a8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001360.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3C1285581645.2698.113.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001343.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001363.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3C1285581645.2698.113.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 12:00:45 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001343.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001363.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1360">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1360">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1360">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1360">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le dimanche 26 septembre 2010 à 22:28 -0500, Dwight Paige a écrit : + +><i> Does anyone really think there's a snowballs chance in New Orleans of +</I>><i> Mageia devs going to .deb packages? Not that there's anything wrong with +</I>><i> that... +</I> +Well, going to deb would requires rewrite all specs files, and most of +the installer. Not to mention that this would requires to change +buildsystem, and requires lots of formation of packagers, and rewite all +the documentation and the policy. + +So, while there is nothing wrong with .deb, this is "no". + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001343.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001363.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1360">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1360">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1360">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1360">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001361.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001361.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ce516eaa4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001361.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? 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Smart is still available in the +Mandriva repos. + +<rant> +I just love these kind of pointless threads. I still haven't seen any +arguments why rpm,urpmi and rpmdrake are bad or what would be gained +by switching to deb, apt, synaptics or whatever gizmo of the day. +However, what I *can* see is that most of these "arguments" (or lack +of thereof) stem from GUI preferences of individual people, not any +technical merits of one system or another. Making decisions with +profound impact isn't going (hopefully!) happen on who is the most +vocal person, so please - either provide real arguments, or stop this +pointless discussion. Even better, just stop it, because this topic +was rehashed ad-nauseam on Cooker several times already and I do not +see what we gain by producing more useless e-mail traffic. +</rant> + +Many thanks, + +Jan +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001364.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads - Use IMAP? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001408.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1362">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1362">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1362">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1362">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001363.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001363.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1bcb87097 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001363.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271209.38693.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001360.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001366.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271209.38693.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 12:09:38 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001360.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001366.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1363">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1363">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1363">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1363">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> schrieb am 2010-09-27 +><i> Le dimanche 26 septembre 2010 à 22:28 -0500, Dwight Paige a écrit : +</I>><i> > Mageia devs going to .deb packages? Not that there's anything wrong with +</I>><i> > that... +</I>The question is: why? There's nothing wrong with rpm, either. + +><i> So, while there is nothing wrong with .deb, this is "no". +</I>Thanks! + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001360.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001366.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1363">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1363">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1363">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1363">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001364.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001364.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..38e48f424 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001364.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads - Use IMAP? 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I use post-installation scripts that verify which packages are +there and which are still missing (also want to automatically throw out +unneeded packages, but that is hairy). + +This approach has the advantage that it does not require to modify the +installation process and that the scripts can be based on user (or +group-of-users)-provided files with names of packages. I understand that +the "do everything during installation" approach is excellent for users +that want to get a ready-made box out of installation. Here we are +discussing users with more complex requirements. +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001347.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001340.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1365">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1365">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1365">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1365">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001366.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001366.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4a1013ffd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001366.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikxGwHxRjYMusEYf4jBSukVLqdfWbnKHV5LcCFR%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001363.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001346.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic</H1> + <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikxGwHxRjYMusEYf4jBSukVLqdfWbnKHV5LcCFR%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic">msdobrescu at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 13:02:02 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001363.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001346.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1366">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1366">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1366">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1366">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE><IMHO> +There is no perfect tool as there is no real reason to switch from .rpm to +.deb or viceversa. +I have always wondered, though there are many open source projects free to +derive or contribute, why people prefer to make it again and again from +scratch? +There are some issues in any, but we could also find at least two suitable +for our needs. +Let's polish existent tools until they fit our needs. +urpmi is good enough. Let's fix it where is wrong, let's add new features +when needed. +Alternately, let contribute with some other tools until they are accepted, +if they are worthy, they'll be. +Let's focus on real problems. There is no distro yet, let's find what we +expect from the new one. Let's do it. +We need to forget about fashion if there are no real arguments to change +something. +If something is not broken, don't fix it. +</IMHO> +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/14fa11f7/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001363.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001346.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1366">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1366">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1366">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1366">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001367.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001367.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c41e9c513 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001367.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA07B76.9020006%40unige.ch%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001337.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001339.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?</H1> + <B>Juergen Harms</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA07B76.9020006%40unige.ch%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 13:09:42 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001337.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001339.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1367">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1367">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1367">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1367">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 09/27/2010 02:19 AM, Tux99 wrote: +><i> Agreed, if we start questioning everything we might as well all go home. +</I> +Agreed again. + +The first priority of Mageia is to publish, within a relatively short +time and with excellent quality, a release - and, as a base for that, to +get organised. + +Proposed changes should consider priorities: changes that can be made +now - possibly profitting from the "new start" situation, and that can +be done with a relatively small effort and do not risk to introduce +instability. And changes that Mageia will have to make later - and must +make in order to remain leading edge. (Changing implementaion language +or switching to another package manager is a risk for stability: needs +time for careful planning and testing - not even discussing the time +needed for implementation). + +I expect that this kind of discussion will come natural in a community +distribution where users (developpers and simple uses) must determine +the future. But they need a somewhat organised structure for an +organised debate. I think that this mailing list risks to get drowned if +this kind of debate is pursued beyond mentioning and sorting out initial +ideas. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001337.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001339.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1367">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1367">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1367">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1367">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001368.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001368.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9da24b311 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001368.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009270950.07032.franklin%40mail.everfocus.com.tw%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001340.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001369.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?</H1> + <B>Franklin Weng</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009270950.07032.franklin%40mail.everfocus.com.tw%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?">franklin at mail.everfocus.com.tw + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 03:50:05 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001340.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001369.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1368">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1368">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1368">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1368">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi list, + +IMO, I don't care to use deb, rpm or even .mag(eia). What I care is to have a +fast-enough updates for software packages. + +I used to run some web sites. One web site ran on CentOS (which was installed +by the host manager). Then I found that it was not easy to upgrade my PHP to +5.2 because there was no such update on its official repositary. Now the same +web site is running on debian, but the condition is similar. I need to find a +3rd party repositary for PHP 5.3. For some other web sites or servers running +Mandriva it does not have such problems. That's one of the main reason why I +am stuck on the Mandriva now. + +So, being rpm or deb is not an issue for me. I just hope to have good- +quality and fast-enough repositary updates, especially for KDE, PHP, python, +... etc. + + +Franklin +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 198 bytes +Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/7693c57a/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001340.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001369.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1368">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1368">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1368">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1368">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001369.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001369.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..61ae08f44 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001369.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinfURM_NzjyKpHNPfuap9gk2t9mSL4c36ckVaW9%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001368.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001345.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?</H1> + <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinfURM_NzjyKpHNPfuap9gk2t9mSL4c36ckVaW9%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?">dglent at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 13:23:27 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001368.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001345.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1369">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1369">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1369">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1369">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I believe that is one of our reputation the urpmi and rpm. 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There's no plan to change it, at +least in this moment. + +Cheers! + + + +tavillo1980 +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001370.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia´s Blog translate +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001372.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1371">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1371">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1371">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1371">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001372.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001372.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e50a39cf6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001372.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20who%20knows%20about%20site%20mageia-br%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikOWo7eGJrVR8nyyRQ9WVYoC4ZahqcxhFXw5sri%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001371.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001373.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?</H1> + <B>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20who%20knows%20about%20site%20mageia-br%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikOWo7eGJrVR8nyyRQ9WVYoC4ZahqcxhFXw5sri%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 13:39:49 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001371.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia - naming +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001373.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1372">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1372">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1372">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1372">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Please, don't quote the full message. 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So, +Gael's participation is not "crucial" nor "critical". However, no one +can deny that he can contribute very interesting things. + +He is welcome to join Mageia, as everyone. After all, Gael was, once, +Mandrake's father. And he's part of Mandriva / Mageia history. + +My 2 cents. + + + +tavillo1980 +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001374.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Cooker"'s name, the poll +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001376.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1375">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1375">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1375">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1375">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001376.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001376.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9a2244533 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001376.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Good move + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Good%20move&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA08844.5020504%40tuxette.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001375.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001378.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Good move</H1> + <B>Lombard Marianne</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Good%20move&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA08844.5020504%40tuxette.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Good move">marianne at tuxette.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 14:04:20 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001375.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001378.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1376">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1376">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1376">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1376">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 26/09/2010 22:25, Lawrence A Fossi a écrit : +><i> I wanted to reply earlier but this thread had gotten lost in the deluge. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think that it should be up to Mageia to make the first move, given the +</I>><i> circumstances of Gaël's departure from Mandriva. +</I>><i> He may be hesitant to offer to join not knowing if he would be welcomed. +</I>><i> Or if Mageia would want the potential negative speculations behind such +</I>><i> a move or add to Mandriva's discomfort. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Gaël Duval has give his position about Mageia. A obvious lack of interest + +<A HREF="http://twitter.com/gael_duval/status/25676929149">http://twitter.com/gael_duval/status/25676929149</A> + +Marianne / Jehane + +-- +Marianne (Jehane) Lombard +Mandriva User - Mageia french translation team +Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a lot of chocolate) - Terry Pratchett + +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001375.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001378.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1376">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1376">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1376">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1376">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001377.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001377.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..41fe4f62a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001377.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] ny opinion + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ny%20opinion&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Ddffo92P2fH9GOP5O%3DEDURtc6FtrmHMi7KZaA8%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001353.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001352.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion</H1> + <B>Reinout van Schouwen</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ny%20opinion&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Ddffo92P2fH9GOP5O%3DEDURtc6FtrmHMi7KZaA8%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion">reinout at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 14:07:56 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001353.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001352.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1377">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1377">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1377">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1377">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/27 david <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">david.naura at laposte.net</A>>: + +>><i> I agree. The look needs to be completely different. +</I> +><i> So do I. For both environments (kde and gnome), kde looks too much like w$$ +</I>><i> and gnome old fashioned (moreover the choices for changing themes is +</I>><i> limited). +</I> +If we want to be offering a smooth upgrade path from Mandriva, then +the look needs to be very much the same or similar! +A lot of work and attention to detail has gone into Ia Ora. Why not +simply pick a Ia Ora variant and get on with really important stuff +like improving the drakx* utilities? + +-- +Reinout van Schouwen +<A HREF="http://vanschouwen.info/">http://vanschouwen.info/</A> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001353.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001352.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1377">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1377">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1377">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1377">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001378.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001378.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3f1b64d44 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001378.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Good move + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Good%20move&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DP61fMydNoapfnN1sMvnrhrJZfd%3DvNTfFJhg3Y%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001376.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001379.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Good move</H1> + <B>Jan Ciger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Good%20move&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DP61fMydNoapfnN1sMvnrhrJZfd%3DvNTfFJhg3Y%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Good move">jan.ciger at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 14:09:50 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001376.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001379.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1378">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1378">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1378">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1378">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Lombard Marianne <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marianne at tuxette.fr</A>> wrote: +>><i> +</I>><i> Gaël Duval has give his position about Mageia. A obvious lack of interest +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://twitter.com/gael_duval/status/25676929149">http://twitter.com/gael_duval/status/25676929149</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marianne / Jehane +</I> +More like he would be in conflict of interest if he joined. Also, +Mageia is pretty much only a name right now, his economical interests +are obviously with Ulteo. + +Jan +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001376.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001379.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1378">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1378">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1378">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1378">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001379.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001379.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3f684b36c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001379.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Good move + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Good%20move&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikYx%2BwON758FiOo4HtmPTn%2BfF8pPtYWMcVxe1A0%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001378.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001395.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Good move</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Good%20move&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikYx%2BwON758FiOo4HtmPTn%2BfF8pPtYWMcVxe1A0%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Good move">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 14:14:41 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001378.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001395.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1379">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1379">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1379">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1379">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/27 Jan Ciger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jan.ciger at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> More like he would be in conflict of interest if he joined. Also, +</I>><i> Mageia is pretty much only a name right now, his economical interests +</I>><i> are obviously with Ulteo. +</I> +There's a difference between "joining" and "commenting". I was a bit +surprised when he told me the same this morning when I asked him to +comment on Mageia for an article I'm writing. The more as I've been +working for/with him for some years. + +Anyhow, he made his statement and that's all there is to say. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001378.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001395.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1379">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1379">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1379">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1379">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001380.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001380.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..742a129bf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001380.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin1E%3DW5d4ZnVG2qi7pqi0yOw5Y%3DHqNhjtQko3t2%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001361.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001332.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?</H1> + <B>Reinout van Schouwen</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin1E%3DW5d4ZnVG2qi7pqi0yOw5Y%3DHqNhjtQko3t2%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?">reinout at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 14:18:19 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001361.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001332.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1380">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1380">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1380">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1380">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/27 Giuseppe Ghibò <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ghibomgx at gmail.com</A>>: + +><i> Sometimes a brilliant idea might come or be inspired even from the most +</I>><i> dumbest suggestion. +</I> +Yes, but abusing the fact of the creation of a new distro to ride your +rpm-vs-deb hobby horse is definitely going to scare away people who +really want to contribute something. Unless the person who suggests +switching package format is prepared to re-package thousands of rpms +himself, of course. + +-- +Reinout van Schouwen +<A HREF="http://vanschouwen.info/">http://vanschouwen.info/</A> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001361.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001332.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1380">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1380">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1380">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1380">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001381.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001381.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..92d20a704 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001381.html @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20MLO%20will%20take%20part%20in%20the%20Mageia%20porject&In-Reply-To=%3CA31E65CCB1B23F49A8B97A3A0947018D02794C78%40EXCHANGE2003.ccq.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001395.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001383.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject</H1> + <B>Dubeau, Patrick</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20MLO%20will%20take%20part%20in%20the%20Mageia%20porject&In-Reply-To=%3CA31E65CCB1B23F49A8B97A3A0947018D02794C78%40EXCHANGE2003.ccq.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject">Patrick.Dubeau at ccq.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 14:09:36 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001395.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001383.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1381">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1381">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1381">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1381">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>De : <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A> +[mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>] De la part de Dimitrios +Glentadakis +Envoyé : 24 septembre 2010 16:19 +À : Mageia general discussions +Objet : Re: [Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject + +2010/9/24 atilla ontas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>> +Also Mandriva Turkiye community (which is active since 2008) decided +to support both Mandriva and Mageia through our mandrivaturkiye.com +and forum.mandrivaturkiye.com sites. +_______________________________________________ +  + +the greek community too :) +  + +Technically, how do you will proceed to this change? +You will rename anything in your mandriva domain to mageia ? or you will do a +new domain and restart everything by zero? I ask this because i want to avoid +to break the site with a mistake. This probably is a question to the +webmasters/admins + + +-- +Dimitrios Glentadakis + +------------------------------------------------------- + +Hi Dimitrios, + +Sorry, I never saw your message through the big flow of message coming from +this list.... ;) + +Once we have the permission to use the name Mageia in MLO, we'll rename +everything in our domain and get a new domain name. We'll have some breakage, +but I estimated it'll be of no real consequences and easy to address. + +Pat +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001395.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001383.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1381">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1381">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1381">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1381">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001382.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001382.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1bbf5c961 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001382.html @@ -0,0 +1,65 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] commercial support + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20commercial%20support&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinFpjnKrnKiQfZn3Whj_3Cp%3D90ujSoAdC5F_XD%3D%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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We'll have some +</I>><i> breakage, +</I>><i> but I estimated it'll be of no real consequences and easy to address. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Pat +</I>><i> +</I> + +Ok thanks, this is what i wanted to know ( il a du boulot! :) ) + +-- +Dimitrios Glentadakis +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/c1ebc03c/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001381.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001384.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1383">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1383">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1383">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1383">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001384.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001384.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e5738c985 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001384.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] List language + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20List%20language&In-Reply-To=%3C201009270848.59411.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001383.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001385.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] List language</H1> + <B>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20List%20language&In-Reply-To=%3C201009270848.59411.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] List language">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 14:48:59 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001383.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001385.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1384">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1384">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1384">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1384">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Dare I offer a suggestion aimed at those listers who speak/write little +English: could it be all right for them to post their best effort in English, +_and_ also post in their native language ? + +This would help those who speak the other idiom to get the full sense of the +posting, if the approximative English is not completely clear, while also +conveying an idea to the full list. + +Cheers, + +Ron. +-- + Personne n'aime les missionnaires armés; + et le premier conseil que donnent la nature et la prudence, + c'est de les repousser comme des ennemis. + -- Maximilien Robespierre + + -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> -- + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001383.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001385.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1384">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1384">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1384">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1384">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001385.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001385.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c3f56d539 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001385.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] List language + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20List%20language&In-Reply-To=%3C1285592494.2698.223.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001384.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001387.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] List language</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20List%20language&In-Reply-To=%3C1285592494.2698.223.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] List language">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 15:01:34 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001384.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001387.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1385">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1385">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1385">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1385">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 27 septembre 2010 à 08:48 -0400, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit : +><i> Dare I offer a suggestion aimed at those listers who speak/write little +</I>><i> English: could it be all right for them to post their best effort in English, +</I>><i> _and_ also post in their native language ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This would help those who speak the other idiom to get the full sense of the +</I>><i> posting, if the approximative English is not completely clear, while also +</I>><i> conveying an idea to the full list. +</I> +I would more ask them to get in touch with someone speaking english so +they can improve their skills, and ensure that it doesn't create a +divide between those that speak only english, and those that speak +english and others languages. + +The local community can perfectly help for that, imho. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001384.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001387.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1385">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1385">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1385">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1385">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001386.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001386.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2fecb3944 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001386.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] List language + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20List%20language&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA095E6.4000700%40eesti.ee%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001387.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001396.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] List language</H1> + <B>Sander Lepik</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20List%20language&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA095E6.4000700%40eesti.ee%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] List language">sander.lepik at eesti.ee + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 15:02:30 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001387.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001396.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1386">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1386">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1386">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1386">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> 27.09.2010 15:48, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI kirjutas: +><i> Dare I offer a suggestion aimed at those listers who speak/write little +</I>><i> English: could it be all right for them to post their best effort in English, +</I>><i> _and_ also post in their native language ? +</I>I don't think it's a good idea. Bad english is still better than another language that i +don't understand at all. + +-- +Sander +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/624efc6b/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001387.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001396.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1386">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1386">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1386">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1386">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001387.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001387.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6e3833a4b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001387.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] List language + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20List%20language&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0962A.8040905%40eesti.ee%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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If the person who answer me is German, and he writes +his reply in English and German, you have that Spanish speaking people +who was following my mail, can't read not the English nor the German. + +So, let's keep using English as common language. + +Cheers! + + +tavillo1980 +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001396.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001401.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1388">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1388">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1388">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1388">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001389.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001389.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..84d2ee08e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001389.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271509.04836.franckdoucet%40orange.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001335.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001336.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy</H1> + <B>franck</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20strategy&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271509.04836.franckdoucet%40orange.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy">franckdoucet at orange.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 15:09:04 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001335.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001336.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1389">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1389">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1389">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1389">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 27 septembre 2010 01:02:35, vfmBOFH a écrit : +><i> > +</I>><i> > Plus, we wouldn't use Mandriva if we don't like the way it works. So no +</I>><i> > need to change to deb or make Gnome the primer Desktop Env. or stuff like +</I>><i> > that +</I> + I agree. + + I an informatic idiot,really, It's funny and anectotic but I installed my +first Linux a Mandrake 7.2 because I was unable to restart my Windows Me! +Nevertheless I have tested a lot of distrib and I fav Mandriva for KDE and +MCC ( otherwise I have an Ubuntu on my second PC...) + +><i> > In my opinion with this simple trippelisation you can arrange all kind of +</I>><i> > home, business, school, multimedia, netbook ... structures you ever +</I>><i> > imagine all with one Distro. +</I> + for a time It was an Mandriva's installer option. + A thing I would like is a simple way to active a "personnal cloud" (for +synchronise my mails, docs...) Zarafa and others are certainly a good solution +but a mess for a simply user. + +><i> +</I>><i> At the same time, i'm aware that it can be a too big break from the +</I>><i> mageia's origins (in the meaning of system's scheme and organization). So, +</I>><i> if we can progressively drive mageia to this new scheme sounds reasonable +</I>><i> too. +</I>><i> +</I> I wish it will be... I am a bit affraid by some requests for a "real Linux +for real hacker", for me it's more the Debian market place; I think well about +Debian... but I don't use it! ;) + + franck + + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001335.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001336.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1389">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1389">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1389">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1389">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001390.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001390.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ed8939563 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001390.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20presentation%20%2B%20summary%20request&In-Reply-To=%3C201009271539.28221.marcello.anni%40alice.it%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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However it is not available in Spanish yet. + +Would you be interested in my translation to Spanish language? If you are +so, how could I send it? Would it be OK to email it to this ML as an +attached html file? + +Cheers +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/6dedd533/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001391.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001393.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1392">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1392">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1392">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1392">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001393.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001393.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d64c3f9e8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001393.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Donations%20page%20translated%20to%20Spanish&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim1jFGGgrbVrKA9Fne0h2zmwRCQiOdbwv0Cvkns%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001392.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001394.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish</H1> + <B>Anne nicolas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Donations%20page%20translated%20to%20Spanish&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim1jFGGgrbVrKA9Fne0h2zmwRCQiOdbwv0Cvkns%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish">ennael1 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 16:04:04 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001392.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001394.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1393">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1393">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1393">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1393">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/27 Juan Carlos de la Cruz <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pcboltzmann at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> Hi! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I've observed that the Mageia project's donations page +</I>><i> (<A HREF="http://donation.mageia.org/">http://donation.mageia.org/</A>) has currently been translated to most of the +</I>><i> languages. However it is not available in Spanish yet. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Would you be interested in my translation to Spanish language? If you are +</I>><i> so, how could I send it? Would it be OK to email it to this ML as an +</I>><i> attached html file? contribution +</I> +It's ok. Thanks for you + +><i> +</I>><i> Cheers +</I> + + +-- +------- +Anne +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001392.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001394.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1393">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1393">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1393">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1393">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001394.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001394.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..be4759183 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001394.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Donations%20page%20translated%20to%20Spanish&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DpLJb%3Dto_NGLYKr0jMDH6iLbOFfGX%2BwEYuB2it%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001393.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001400.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish</H1> + <B>Juan Carlos de la Cruz</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Donations%20page%20translated%20to%20Spanish&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DpLJb%3Dto_NGLYKr0jMDH6iLbOFfGX%2BwEYuB2it%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish">pcboltzmann at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 16:16:27 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001393.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001400.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1394">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1394">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1394">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1394">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/27 Anne nicolas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>> + +><i> 2010/9/27 Juan Carlos de la Cruz <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pcboltzmann at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> > Hi! +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I've observed that the Mageia project's donations page +</I>><i> > (<A HREF="http://donation.mageia.org/">http://donation.mageia.org/</A>) has currently been translated to most of +</I>><i> the +</I>><i> > languages. However it is not available in Spanish yet. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Would you be interested in my translation to Spanish language? If you are +</I>><i> > so, how could I send it? Would it be OK to email it to this ML as an +</I>><i> > attached html file? contribution +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It's ok. Thanks for you +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Here you are! + +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> ------- +</I>><i> Anne +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/30a779a9/attachment-0001.html> +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: Mageia_donation_page_es.tar.gz +Type: application/x-gzip +Size: 19651 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/30a779a9/attachment-0001.bin> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001393.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001400.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1394">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1394">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1394">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1394">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001395.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001395.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2b0ae02e8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001395.html @@ -0,0 +1,58 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Good move + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Good%20move&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0AC2C.3070708%40comcast.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Bad english is still better than another +</I>><i> language that i don't understand at all. +</I> +You did not bother to read my proposal to the end: I suggest they post in +(broken English _and_ in their own language. + +So you get the bad English, and others can benefit from the other language. + +Cheers, + +Ron. +-- + Good judgement comes from experience. + Experience comes from bad judgement. + -- Jim Horning + + -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> -- + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001386.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001388.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1396">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1396">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1396">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1396">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001397.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001397.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..14366bfdf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001397.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2010.09.27.15.22.27.67296%40bcs.org.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001412.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001399.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic</H1> + <B>Maurice Batey</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2010.09.27.15.22.27.67296%40bcs.org.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic">maurice at bcs.org.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 17:22:27 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001412.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001399.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1397">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1397">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1397">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1397">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:59:20 -0600, francisco monge a wrote: + +><i> I used Synaptic and leaves much to be desired in some respects, especially +</I>><i> with the handling of dependencies, is confusing and anything but a novice +</I>><i> can use it easily. If anything I liked on Mandrake and Mandriva was so +</I>><i> easy to use rpmdrake. +</I> ++1 + +-- +/\/\aurice + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001412.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001399.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1397">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1397">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1397">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1397">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001398.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001398.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..74f7b9e75 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001398.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2010.09.27.15.29.03.726697%40bcs.org.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001399.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001403.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?</H1> + <B>Maurice Batey</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2010.09.27.15.29.03.726697%40bcs.org.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?">maurice at bcs.org.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 17:29:03 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001399.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001403.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1398">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1398">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1398">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1398">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 00:39:27 +0300, Sander Lepik wrote: + +><i> can you please stop this deb vs rpm battle. urpm* is one of the reasons +</I>><i> why Mandriva is what it is, it's a brilliant tool and @ command line it +</I>><i> kicks apt's butt. 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However it is not available in Spanish yet. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Would you be interested in my translation to Spanish language? If you are +</I>><i> so, how could I send it? Would it be OK to email it to this ML as an +</I>><i> attached html file? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers +</I> +Hi Juan Carlos, +If you want, you can join the Spanish translation team MdkTrans at +www.blogdrake.net. + +Regards, + +-- +Diego Bello Carreño +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001394.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001412.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1400">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1400">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1400">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1400">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001401.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001401.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4532f415c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001401.html @@ -0,0 +1,156 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] List language + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20List%20language&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0BCFA.1050202%40marneau.eu%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001388.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001402.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] List language</H1> + <B>Lucien-Henry Horvath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20List%20language&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0BCFA.1050202%40marneau.eu%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] List language">tempo2 at marneau.eu + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 17:49:14 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001388.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001402.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1401">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1401">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1401">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1401">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> > I would more ask them to get in touch with someone speaking english so + > they can improve their skills, and ensure that it doesn't create a + > divide between those that speak only english, and those that speak + > english and others languages. + > So, let's keep using English as common language. + + +EN : (en FR en-dessous) + +Okay, +But if we go in this direction you just give the advantage to the less +bad wordl spoke language of the moment (compliancy of - low level - in +computing concepts). +BUT : When all chineses people will have their own access to internet, +you can be sure that the _ new _ less bad world spoke language will be +chinese (just 1 little billion of speakers ;-) ). +Are you ready to adapt you when a chinese people will serve you this +argument : "now chinese is the most spoke language, also your learn good +chinese or shut-up !". Certainly not: We have to respect the native +culture of each person in the world. + +Me, I have the chance to read german and russian too (I practice more +bad than english) and when I have these languages, I make the effort to +read them. Spanish is not so far than french. If you write in spanish, I +will read yours 2 versions for understand exactly (saying less bad) what +you have in mind. + +For me, the better solution is to speak in the native language of your +interlocutor and he respond to you in your native language (like french +/ german army in 1960). +You know, if I don't speak in spanish, its only because I'm not so +educated for speak in your language. But I think that it's a better +respect to speak in the native language of the person. +But, when there are a lot of readers, an other solution for transmit +it's think is to speak in its own language (for be sure to give it's +mind), and a language spoke by a lot of people (for the most comprehension). + +For me english is not THE culture of the world ... and a lot of +countries are thinking that. + + +FR : (in EN up) ----------------------------------------------- + + +D'accord, mais en allant dans cette direction vous donnez l'avantage à +la langue la moins mal parlée dans le monde (en informatique, c'est la +concept de compatibilité de plus bas niveau). +Lorsque tous les chinois auront leur propre accès à Internet, vous +pouvez être sûr que "la nouvelle langue la moins mal parlée" sera +chinois (juste un milliard de pratiquants;-) ). +Êtes-vous prêt à vous adapter, quand un chinois vous servira cet +argument: « la langue la plus parlée est le chinois, alors apprenez à +bien la parler ou taisez-vous !". Certainement pas: Nous devons +respecter la culture maternelle de chaque personne dans le monde. + +Moi, j'ai la chance de lire l'allemand et le russe (que je pratique +d'ailleurs encore plus mal que l'anglais), mais quand j'ai ces langues, +je fais l'effort de les lire. L'espagnol n'est pas si loin que le +français. Si vous écrivez en espagnol, je vais lire vôtre texte dans les +2 versions pour comprendre exactement (disons le moins mal) ce que vous +avez à l'esprit. + +Pour moi, la meilleure solution est de parler dans la langue maternelle +de votre interlocuteur et qu'il vous réponde dans votre langue +maternelle (comme pratiquaient l'armée française et allemand en 1960 +lors de leurs manoeuvres communes). +Vous savez, si je ne parle pas en espagnol, c'est seulement parce que je +ne suis pas instruit pour parler dans votre langue. Mais je pense que +c'est un plus grand respect que de s'exprimer dans la langue maternelle +de son interlocuteur. +Mais, quand il y a beaucoup de lecteurs, une autre solution pour +transmettre ces pensées, c'est de parler dans sa propre langue (pour +être sûr de donner ce que l'on a à l'esprit), et un dans un langage +parlé par un grand nombre de personnes (pour être compris au mieux par +tous). + +Pour moi, l'anglais n'est pas LA culture du monde ... et beaucoup de +pays pensent ça. + + + +Le 27/09/2010 15:07, Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli a écrit : +><i> IMHO, not a good idea. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm Spanish speaker, and I could write my mails in English and Spanish. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But the people I'm discussing with, are from many different countries +</I>><i> and languages. If the person who answer me is German, and he writes +</I>><i> his reply in English and German, you have that Spanish speaking people +</I>><i> who was following my mail, can't read not the English nor the German. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, let's keep using English as common language. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> tavillo1980 +</I>><i> +</I> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001388.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001402.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1401">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1401">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1401">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1401">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001402.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001402.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1762d2683 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001402.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] List language + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20List%20language&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimrgryU2r%3DDngSSx8cvcZG%3DasktL%3DDDxKfOzEq5%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001401.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001405.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] List language</H1> + <B>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20List%20language&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimrgryU2r%3DDngSSx8cvcZG%3DasktL%3DDDxKfOzEq5%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] List language">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 18:09:28 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001401.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001405.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1402">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1402">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1402">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1402">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Lucien + +I understand your point. Believe me that I do. + +But you/me/we can't just tell people that they must learn all languages. + +We must find a common language. Since decades, schools all around the +world have being teaching English to students. It's changing now. + +Here, in Argentina, schools started many years ago to teach Portuguese +because of the MERCOSUR. And because of Brazil's economic power. + +You're right about Chinese. It will be the most spoken language. Maybe +schools will teach Chinese instead of English. + +For me, with almost 30 years and with many years of English at school, +it's very difficult to learn another language. I guess, many people is +in the same situation than me. + +Maybe, in ten years from now, 2010 kids will be men and will speak Chinese well. + +But grown man like me, in 2010, live different situation. + +So, my vote is to keep using English today. Tomorrow, if situation +changes, we'll must adapt or remain in silence. + +Regards. + + + +tavillo1980 +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001401.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001405.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1402">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1402">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1402">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1402">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001403.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001403.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..080b9b934 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001403.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin-rfjwDn3QrXzBuydhe9Eb0PYfVzwt2JSv9zJV%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001398.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001407.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?</H1> + <B>Hoyt Duff</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20rpm%20or%20deb%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin-rfjwDn3QrXzBuydhe9Eb0PYfVzwt2JSv9zJV%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?">hoytduff at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 18:25:45 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001398.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001407.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1403">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1403">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1403">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1403">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/27 Maurice Batey <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>>: +><i> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 00:39:27 +0300, Sander Lepik wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> can you please stop this deb vs rpm battle. urpm* is one of the reasons +</I>>><i> why Mandriva is what it is, it's a brilliant tool and @ command line it +</I>>><i> kicks apt's butt. Dropping urpm* would be pointless +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +1 +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> /\/\aurice +</I> +Agreed. DEB/APT offers no clear, superior benefit to make scrapping +RPM/urmp* any benefit to Mageia. + +Keep what works. Fix what's broken. 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It does not prevent me from using English when I believe it +is the most appropriate communication tool. + +It's not a matter of "which is the most spoken language" or "which +would be the one world language" for culture or anything else +(nonsense). Far from that, for a native English speaker (even a native +American English speaker) must certainly have a hard time not to +correct people all the time here. :-) + +It's a matter of having a common "working language" for everyone. Here +(mageia-discuss), we use English as a lingua franca/vehicular +language. Because: + - it's the most likely available international language that we, the +founding team, manage to read/write/speak; + - it's the most likely common language for everyone we expect to +involve in this project at this time; + - we're not in this to promote full interaction in each other native +language (that would be a nice challenge great, but it's not this +place's goal). + +In other places, you/we may/will use locally more appropriate idioms +(blogs, other local ml, websites, forums). + +Mageia-discuss is a list: + - where people can resonate discussions from other places/idioms; + - from which people can translate/purport discussions to other places/idioms. + +We use "English" here. Note that doesn't prevent from using local +pieces of idioms when in context and explained. + +Cheers! Santé ! + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001406.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001390.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1404">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1404">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1404">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1404">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001405.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001405.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3d6b86da9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001405.html @@ -0,0 +1,149 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] List language + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20List%20language&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0CA7A.7010400%40marneau.eu%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001402.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001406.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] List language</H1> + <B>Lucien-Henry Horvath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20List%20language&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0CA7A.7010400%40marneau.eu%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] List language">tempo2 at marneau.eu + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 18:46:50 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001402.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001406.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1405">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1405">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1405">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1405">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>EN (FR en dessous) : + +I'm not against to speak in english in our discussion because it's a +fact : english is today the most quick spoke language. +(and as you see, I speak in english first in this post for example). +But, my point of view is that speaking in english is not permitting to +give others the completness of it's mind. A man speak better in it's own +natural tongue. +I say : with the 2 languages in each post (english for all, mothertongue +for true), we give us a better chance to be understood. This questions +is not a must for those who are "fluents in english", but that will help +for the others. +I take my poor personal example: for be sure to be understood, I write +first in english with my words, translate with google and ... after +write a corrected version in the 2 languages. (I just seeing that we +saying not motherthong, but mothertongue ;-) ). +In excluding of discussion those who don't speak fluently in english, +you loose a part of the power of the common reflexion / work. You make a +cast system : the strong, and the others. But in computing, it is not +because you speak bad in english that you are coding bad. For me must +important is to do a good job, not a good "blabla". + +So, I support this idea : Accept the 2 speaks in the posts : +- 1 english (better as possible) +- 2 mothertongue +It's more long, but safer for understanding. + +FR (EN up) : + +Je ne suis pas contre de parler en anglais dans notre discussion, car +c'est un fait: l'anglais est aujourd'hui la langue la plus rapide a parler. +(Et comme vous le voyez, je parle en anglais d'abord dans ce poste par +exemple). +Mais, mon point de vue est que de parler en anglais ne permet pas de +donner aux autres la complétude ce que l'on a à l'esprit. Un homme parle +mieux dans sa propre langue naturelle. +Je dis : avec les 2 langues dans chaque post (en anglais pour tous, en +langue maternelle pour être sûr), nous nous donnons une meilleure chance +d'être compris. Cette question n'est pas une obligation pour ceux qui +parlent l'anglais courrament, mais qui aidera pour les autres. +Je prends mon pauvre exemple personnel: pour être sûr d'être compris, +j'écris d'abord en anglais avec mes mots, puis traduit avec Google et +... après écrit une version corrigée dans les 2 langues. (Je viens de +voir qu'on ne dit pas motherthong, mais mothertongue pour langue +maternelle ;-) ). +En excluant de la discussion ceux qui ne parlent pas couramment +l'anglais, vous perdez une partie de la puissance de la réflexion +commune / travail. Vous faites un système de castes: les forts, et les +autres. Mais dans le calcul, ce n'est pas parce que vous parlez mal en +anglais que vous êtes un mauvais codeur. Pour moi, doit l'important est +de faire un bon travail, pas un bon "blabla". + +Aussi je soutiens cette idée : Accepter les 2 langues dans les posts : +- 1 anglais (le meilleur possible) +- 2 langue maternelle +C'est plus long à écrire, mais plus sûr pour la compréhension. + + +Le 27/09/2010 18:09, Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli a écrit : +><i> Lucien +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I understand your point. Believe me that I do. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But you/me/we can't just tell people that they must learn all languages. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We must find a common language. Since decades, schools all around the +</I>><i> world have being teaching English to students. It's changing now. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Here, in Argentina, schools started many years ago to teach Portuguese +</I>><i> because of the MERCOSUR. And because of Brazil's economic power. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You're right about Chinese. It will be the most spoken language. Maybe +</I>><i> schools will teach Chinese instead of English. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For me, with almost 30 years and with many years of English at school, +</I>><i> it's very difficult to learn another language. I guess, many people is +</I>><i> in the same situation than me. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe, in ten years from now, 2010 kids will be men and will speak Chinese well. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But grown man like me, in 2010, live different situation. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, my vote is to keep using English today. Tomorrow, if situation +</I>><i> changes, we'll must adapt or remain in silence. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> tavillo1980 +</I>><i> +</I> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001402.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001406.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1405">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1405">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1405">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1405">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001406.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001406.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8aa06efce --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001406.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] List language + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20List%20language&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimoz57CyzediK8dWC-PgfY%2B_doPrV1mZzOM6ENZ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001405.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001404.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] List language</H1> + <B>Hoyt Duff</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20List%20language&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimoz57CyzediK8dWC-PgfY%2B_doPrV1mZzOM6ENZ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] List language">hoytduff at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 19:29:48 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001405.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001404.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1406">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1406">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1406">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1406">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Lucien-Henry Horvath +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tempo2 at marneau.eu</A>> wrote: + +>><i> +</I>>><i> So, my vote is to keep using English today.  Tomorrow, if situation +</I>>><i> changes, we'll must adapt or remain in silence. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> tavillo1980 +</I> +As a native American English speaker having worked on English +translations of non-English writing, I can appreciate the frustration +of non-native English speakers. English is a complex, convoluted and +idiom-riddled mashup language. + +Thanks to everybody for making the effort to use it at all; many +native speakers struggle with it as well. + +-- +Hoyt Duff +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001405.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001404.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1406">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1406">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1406">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1406">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001407.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001407.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fedfccc6a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001407.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20origin%20of%20the%20name%20%22mageia%22%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0EAF6.3000405%40arcor.de%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001403.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001409.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"?</H1> + <B>Florian Hubold</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20origin%20of%20the%20name%20%22mageia%22%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0EAF6.3000405%40arcor.de%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"?">doktor5000 at arcor.de + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 21:05:26 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001403.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001409.html">[Mageia-discuss] Comments on Ignacio's logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1407">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1407">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1407">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1407">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> Am 23.09.2010 14:33, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath: +><i> +</I>><i> Yes, of course, I was in generalising mode (many US Americans seem to +</I>><i> think that all Germans run around in Lederhosen, drinking beer and +</I>><i> eating Sauerkraut, listening to Blaskapelle and singing about +</I>><i> Gemütlichkeit). +</I>Pssst, do not shout this out so loudly. They could take a look +at Munich, Bavaria at the moment and be approved by their +opinion that we have something simlar to "rednecks" in germany :). +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001403.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001409.html">[Mageia-discuss] Comments on Ignacio's logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1407">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1407">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1407">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1407">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001408.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001408.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..78fd0145a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001408.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DvcvuLPCdAxoUUCXpN%3D8HKH4ZgznUFAodrQfqa%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001362.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001370.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic</H1> + <B>Per Øyvind Karlsen</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20with%20Synaptic&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DvcvuLPCdAxoUUCXpN%3D8HKH4ZgznUFAodrQfqa%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic">peroyvind at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 22:07:47 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001362.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001370.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia´s Blog translate +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1408">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1408">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1408">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1408">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/27 Jan Ciger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jan.ciger at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 9:22 PM, paulo ricardo +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">paulo_ricardogo at hotmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> When the mandrake joined with Conectiva they will throw away the package +</I>>><i> manager developed by the Brazilian company, the "Synaptic"! Synaptic began +</I>>><i> to be adopted in debian systems, and these systems now exceed the mandriva! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think you meant Smart not Synaptics. Smart is still available in the +</I>><i> Mandriva repos. +</I>I think what might be referred to is that Conectiva was the one who +originally did the port of apt to rpm and was using it. +AFAIK Gustavo Niemeyer who's the author of smart and the last person +who maintained apt at Conectiva, started working on smart as a +replacement for apt due to various issues with it. I don't really know +if Conectiva really got around to replacing apt with smart before +being bought by Mandriva, but the original plan IIRC was for smart to +eventually replace urpmi, but Niemeyer left Mandriva to work at +Canonical only a few months after.. + +Personally I've been intimate with the code of both apt & smart, and I +must say that +I was much happier doing development on smart, apt code wasn't very nice.. +Also apt for rpm development has pretty much died since, with upstream +being pronounced dead and other distributions such as Ark Linux which +used apt in the past, has abandoned it as well as a result.. + +><i> +</I>><i> <rant> +</I>><i> I just love these kind of pointless threads. I still haven't seen any +</I>><i> arguments why rpm,urpmi and rpmdrake are bad or what would be gained +</I>><i> by switching to deb, apt, synaptics or whatever gizmo of the day. +</I>><i> However, what I *can* see is that most of these "arguments" (or lack +</I>><i> of thereof) stem from GUI preferences of individual people, not any +</I>><i> technical merits of one system or another. Making decisions with +</I>><i> profound impact isn't going (hopefully!) happen on who is the most +</I>><i> vocal person, so please - either provide real arguments, or stop this +</I>><i> pointless discussion. Even better, just stop it, because this topic +</I>><i> was rehashed ad-nauseam on Cooker several times already and I do not +</I>><i> see what we gain by producing more useless e-mail traffic. +</I>><i> </rant> +</I>Opting for smart OTOH is something a lot of good arguments could be +made in favor of, but that's really out of scope for this thread +anyways.. ;) + +-- +Regards, +Per Øyvind +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001362.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001370.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia´s Blog translate +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1408">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1408">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1408">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1408">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001409.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001409.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1697e261d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001409.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Comments on Ignacio's logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Comments%20on%20Ignacio%27s%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0FBE0.6060106%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001407.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001410.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Comments on Ignacio's logo</H1> + <B>Erwan Velu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Comments%20on%20Ignacio%27s%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA0FBE0.6060106%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Comments on Ignacio's logo">erwanaliasr1 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 22:17:36 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001407.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001410.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1409">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1409">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1409">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1409">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 21/09/2010 22:19, Ignacio Salcedo a écrit : +><i> I have proposed this model: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ignacioprofile/5011912313/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ignacioprofile/5011912313/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I>><i> , on the other hand, an idea, always a good concept. +</I> +Hey, + +I have to admit that I really like this one. Shapes are pure, design is +light. By far, the best I ever seen for this project. + +That said, would it be possible to see some variations regarding the +baseline color ? + +The only point I have regarding this logo is the font that looks like +too much medieval from my taste. + +Anyway, great job ! + +Erwan, +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100927/b15e79ce/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001407.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001410.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1409">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1409">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1409">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1409">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001410.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001410.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2155badd0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/001410.html @@ -0,0 +1,59 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20who%20knows%20about%20site%20mageia-br%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100927145051.1E7400DA%40resin17.mta.everyone.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001409.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?</H1> + <B>André Machado</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20who%20knows%20about%20site%20mageia-br%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100927145051.1E7400DA%40resin17.mta.everyone.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?">afmachado at dcemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Sep 27 23:50:51 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001409.html">[Mageia-discuss] Comments on Ignacio's logo +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1410">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1410">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1410">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1410">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE><A HREF="http://mageia-br.org">http://mageia-br.org</A> is runing under Windows Server 2003 according <A HREF="http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mageia-br.org%2F">http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mageia-br.org%2F</A> . Isn't official. 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If you are +</I>><i> > so, how could I send it? Would it be OK to email it to this ML as an +</I>><i> > attached html file? +</I> + + +Cool! Send it to Maãt, he is doing that. You can find it at IRC channel #mageia +at irc.freenode.net . I send pt-br translations to him as html files, so, no +problems. + +Welcome! + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001400.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001397.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1412">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1412">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1412">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1412">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d25cc0690 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,452 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 27 September 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>27 September 2010 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Sep 27 00:16:59 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Sep 27 23:57:34 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 81<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001390.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1390"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001354.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss - rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1354"> </A> +<I>Jean-François BELLANGER +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001397.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1397"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001399.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1399"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001398.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1398"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001400.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A><A NAME="1400"> </A> +<I>Diego Bello +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001379.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1379"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001382.html">[Mageia-discuss] commercial support +</A><A NAME="1382"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001357.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1357"> </A> +<I>Cassian Braconnnier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001363.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1363"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001348.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1348"> </A> +<I>Sandro Cazzaniga +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001350.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1350"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001362.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1362"> </A> +<I>Jan Ciger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001378.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1378"> </A> +<I>Jan Ciger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001392.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A><A NAME="1392"> </A> +<I>Juan Carlos de la Cruz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001394.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A><A NAME="1394"> </A> +<I>Juan Carlos de la Cruz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001364.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads - Use IMAP? +</A><A NAME="1364"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001349.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1349"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001366.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1366"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001381.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A><A NAME="1381"> </A> +<I>Dubeau, Patrick +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001403.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1403"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001406.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1406"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001353.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1353"> </A> +<I>Shlomi Fish +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001345.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1345"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001395.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1395"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001358.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1358"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001361.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1361"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001370.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia´s Blog translate +</A><A NAME="1370"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001371.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia - naming +</A><A NAME="1371"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001372.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1372"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001373.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="1373"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001374.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Cooker"'s name, the poll +</A><A NAME="1374"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001375.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1375"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001388.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1388"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001402.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1402"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001339.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A><A NAME="1339"> </A> +<I>Ireneusz Gierlach +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001369.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1369"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001383.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A><A NAME="1383"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001334.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1334"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001365.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A><A NAME="1365"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001367.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1367"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001333.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1333"> </A> +<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001401.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1401"> </A> +<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001405.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1405"> </A> +<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001407.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"? +</A><A NAME="1407"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001408.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1408"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001359.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads - Use IMAP? +</A><A NAME="1359"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001386.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1386"> </A> +<I>Sander Lepik +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001387.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1387"> </A> +<I>Sander Lepik +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001412.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A><A NAME="1412"> </A> +<I>Andre Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001410.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1410"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001355.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss - rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1355"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001376.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1376"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001331.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1331"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001384.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1384"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001396.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1396"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001343.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1343"> </A> +<I>Dwight Paige +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001344.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1344"> </A> +<I>Dwight Paige +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001340.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1340"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001360.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1360"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001385.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1385"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001377.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1377"> </A> +<I>Reinout van Schouwen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001380.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1380"> </A> +<I>Reinout van Schouwen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001337.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1337"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001338.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1338"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001409.html">[Mageia-discuss] Comments on Ignacio's logo +</A><A NAME="1409"> </A> +<I>Erwan Velu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001391.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools +</A><A NAME="1391"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001342.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-se.org +</A><A NAME="1342"> </A> +<I>David V. Wallin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001368.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1368"> </A> +<I>Franklin Weng +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001341.html">[Mageia-discuss] commercial support +</A><A NAME="1341"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001346.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1346"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001347.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A><A NAME="1347"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001404.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1404"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001351.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1351"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001352.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A><A NAME="1352"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001389.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1389"> </A> +<I>franck +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001356.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1356"> </A> +<I>isadora +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001393.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A><A NAME="1393"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001336.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1336"> </A> +<I>paulo ricardo +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001332.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1332"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001335.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1335"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Sep 27 23:57:34 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Sep 28 00:00:14 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/date.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/date.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..349b56721 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/date.html @@ -0,0 +1,452 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 27 September 2010 Archive by date</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>27 September 2010 Archives by date</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Sep 27 00:16:59 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Sep 27 23:57:34 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 81<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001331.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1331"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001333.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1333"> </A> +<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001332.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1332"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001334.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1334"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001335.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1335"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001336.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1336"> </A> +<I>paulo ricardo +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001337.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1337"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001338.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1338"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001339.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A><A NAME="1339"> </A> +<I>Ireneusz Gierlach +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001340.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1340"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001368.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1368"> </A> +<I>Franklin Weng +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001341.html">[Mageia-discuss] commercial support +</A><A NAME="1341"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001342.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-se.org +</A><A NAME="1342"> </A> +<I>David V. Wallin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001343.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1343"> </A> +<I>Dwight Paige +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001344.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1344"> </A> +<I>Dwight Paige +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001345.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1345"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001346.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1346"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001347.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A><A NAME="1347"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001348.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1348"> </A> +<I>Sandro Cazzaniga +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001349.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1349"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001350.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1350"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001351.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1351"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001352.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A><A NAME="1352"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001353.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1353"> </A> +<I>Shlomi Fish +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001354.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss - rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1354"> </A> +<I>Jean-François BELLANGER +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001355.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss - rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1355"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001356.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1356"> </A> +<I>isadora +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001357.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1357"> </A> +<I>Cassian Braconnnier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001358.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1358"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001359.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads - Use IMAP? +</A><A NAME="1359"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001360.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1360"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001361.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1361"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001363.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1363"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001362.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1362"> </A> +<I>Jan Ciger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001364.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads - Use IMAP? +</A><A NAME="1364"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001365.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A><A NAME="1365"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001366.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1366"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001367.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1367"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001369.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1369"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001370.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia´s Blog translate +</A><A NAME="1370"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001371.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia - naming +</A><A NAME="1371"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001372.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1372"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001373.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="1373"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001374.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Cooker"'s name, the poll +</A><A NAME="1374"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001375.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1375"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001376.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1376"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001377.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1377"> </A> +<I>Reinout van Schouwen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001381.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A><A NAME="1381"> </A> +<I>Dubeau, Patrick +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001378.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1378"> </A> +<I>Jan Ciger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001379.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1379"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001380.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1380"> </A> +<I>Reinout van Schouwen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001382.html">[Mageia-discuss] commercial support +</A><A NAME="1382"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001383.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A><A NAME="1383"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001384.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1384"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001385.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1385"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001386.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1386"> </A> +<I>Sander Lepik +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001387.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1387"> </A> +<I>Sander Lepik +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001388.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1388"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001389.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1389"> </A> +<I>franck +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001390.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1390"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001391.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools +</A><A NAME="1391"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001392.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A><A NAME="1392"> </A> +<I>Juan Carlos de la Cruz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001393.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A><A NAME="1393"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001394.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A><A NAME="1394"> </A> +<I>Juan Carlos de la Cruz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001395.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1395"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001396.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1396"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001397.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1397"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001399.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1399"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001398.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1398"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001400.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A><A NAME="1400"> </A> +<I>Diego Bello +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001401.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1401"> </A> +<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001402.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1402"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001403.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1403"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001404.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1404"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001405.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1405"> </A> +<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001406.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1406"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001407.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"? +</A><A NAME="1407"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001408.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1408"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001409.html">[Mageia-discuss] Comments on Ignacio's logo +</A><A NAME="1409"> </A> +<I>Erwan Velu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001410.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1410"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001412.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A><A NAME="1412"> </A> +<I>Andre Machado +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Sep 27 23:57:34 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Sep 28 00:00:14 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/index.html new file mode 120000 index 000000000..db4b46f72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/index.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +thread.html
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+</A><A NAME="1359"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001364.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads - Use IMAP? +</A><A NAME="1364"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001384.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1384"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001385.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1385"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001386.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1386"> </A> +<I>Sander Lepik +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001387.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1387"> </A> +<I>Sander Lepik +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001388.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1388"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001396.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1396"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001401.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1401"> </A> +<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001402.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1402"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001404.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1404"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001405.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1405"> </A> +<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001406.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1406"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001371.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia - naming +</A><A NAME="1371"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001339.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A><A NAME="1339"> </A> +<I>Ireneusz Gierlach +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001347.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A><A NAME="1347"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001365.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A><A NAME="1365"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001336.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1336"> </A> +<I>paulo ricardo +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001338.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1338"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001343.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1343"> </A> +<I>Dwight Paige +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001344.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1344"> </A> +<I>Dwight Paige +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001360.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1360"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001363.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1363"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001362.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1362"> </A> +<I>Jan Ciger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001366.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1366"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001397.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1397"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001408.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1408"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001334.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1334"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001335.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1335"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001346.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1346"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001349.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1349"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001350.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1350"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001389.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1389"> </A> +<I>franck +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001354.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss - rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1354"> </A> +<I>Jean-François BELLANGER +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001355.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss - rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1355"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001342.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-se.org +</A><A NAME="1342"> </A> +<I>David V. Wallin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001370.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia´s Blog translate +</A><A NAME="1370"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001381.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A><A NAME="1381"> </A> +<I>Dubeau, Patrick +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001383.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A><A NAME="1383"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001373.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="1373"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001351.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1351"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001353.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1353"> </A> +<I>Shlomi Fish +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001377.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1377"> </A> +<I>Reinout van Schouwen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001352.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A><A NAME="1352"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001407.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"? +</A><A NAME="1407"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001390.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1390"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001333.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1333"> </A> +<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001332.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1332"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001337.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1337"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001340.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1340"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001368.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1368"> </A> +<I>Franklin Weng +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001345.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1345"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001348.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1348"> </A> +<I>Sandro Cazzaniga +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001356.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1356"> </A> +<I>isadora +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001358.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1358"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001361.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1361"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001367.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1367"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001369.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1369"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001380.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1380"> </A> +<I>Reinout van Schouwen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001398.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1398"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001403.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1403"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001357.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1357"> </A> +<I>Cassian Braconnnier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001372.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1372"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001410.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1410"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Sep 27 23:57:34 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Sep 28 00:00:14 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/thread.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..50fe86ddb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100927/thread.html @@ -0,0 +1,601 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 27 September 2010 Archive by thread</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>27 September 2010 Archives by thread</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Sep 27 00:16:59 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Sep 27 23:57:34 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 81<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01285539419- --> +<LI><A HREF="001331.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1331"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<!--0 01285540844- --> +<LI><A HREF="001333.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1333"> </A> +<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285540844-01285567774- --> +<LI><A HREF="001348.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1348"> </A> +<I>Sandro Cazzaniga +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285540844-01285567774-01285576238- --> +<LI><A HREF="001356.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1356"> </A> +<I>isadora +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285540844-01285567774-01285576238-01285581715- --> +<LI><A HREF="001361.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1361"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<!--3 01285540844-01285567774-01285576238-01285581715-01285589899- --> +<LI><A HREF="001380.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1380"> </A> +<I>Reinout van Schouwen +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285541050- --> +<LI><A HREF="001332.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1332"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + +<!--0 01285542119- --> +<LI><A HREF="001334.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1334"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285542119-01285570463- --> +<LI><A HREF="001350.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1350"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285542155- --> +<LI><A HREF="001335.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1335"> </A> +<I>vfmBOFH +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285542155-01285592944- --> +<LI><A HREF="001389.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1389"> </A> +<I>franck +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285545689- --> +<LI><A HREF="001336.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1336"> </A> +<I>paulo ricardo +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285545689-01285548984- --> +<LI><A HREF="001338.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1338"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285545689-01285548984-01285559740- --> +<LI><A HREF="001344.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1344"> </A> +<I>Dwight Paige +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285546797- --> +<LI><A HREF="001337.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1337"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285546797-01285585782- --> +<LI><A HREF="001367.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1367"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285550241- --> +<LI><A HREF="001339.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A><A NAME="1339"> </A> +<I>Ireneusz Gierlach +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285550241-01285563726- --> +<LI><A HREF="001347.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A><A NAME="1347"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285550241-01285563726-01285585163- --> +<LI><A HREF="001365.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Developer Version/Edition? +</A><A NAME="1365"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285551267- --> +<LI><A HREF="001340.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1340"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285551267-01285552205- --> +<LI><A HREF="001368.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1368"> </A> +<I>Franklin Weng +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285551267-01285552205-01285586607- --> +<LI><A HREF="001369.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1369"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285551267-01285561771- --> +<LI><A HREF="001345.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1345"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285554838- --> +<LI><A HREF="001341.html">[Mageia-discuss] commercial support +</A><A NAME="1341"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285554838-01285590303- --> +<LI><A HREF="001382.html">[Mageia-discuss] commercial support +</A><A NAME="1382"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285555353- --> +<LI><A HREF="001342.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-se.org +</A><A NAME="1342"> </A> +<I>David V. Wallin +</I> + +<!--0 01285558109- --> +<LI><A HREF="001343.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1343"> </A> +<I>Dwight Paige +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285558109-01285581645- --> +<LI><A HREF="001360.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1360"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285558109-01285581645-01285582178- --> +<LI><A HREF="001363.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1363"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285558109-01285581645-01285582178-01285585322- --> +<LI><A HREF="001366.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1366"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285562404- --> +<LI><A HREF="001346.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1346"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285562404-01285569096- --> +<LI><A HREF="001349.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's strategy +</A><A NAME="1349"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285572794- --> +<LI><A HREF="001351.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1351"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285572794-01285573811- --> +<LI><A HREF="001353.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1353"> </A> +<I>Shlomi Fish +</I> + +<!--1 01285572794-01285589276- --> +<LI><A HREF="001377.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1377"> </A> +<I>Reinout van Schouwen +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285573380- --> +<LI><A HREF="001352.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A><A NAME="1352"> </A> +<I>david +</I> + +<!--0 01285575044- --> +<LI><A HREF="001354.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss - rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1354"> </A> +<I>Jean-François BELLANGER +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285575044-01285575253- --> +<LI><A HREF="001355.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss - rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1355"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285578168- --> +<LI><A HREF="001357.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1357"> </A> +<I>Cassian Braconnnier +</I> + +<!--0 01285578669- --> +<LI><A HREF="001358.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1358"> </A> +<I>Giuseppe Ghibò +</I> + +<!--0 01285579266- --> +<LI><A HREF="001359.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads - Use IMAP? +</A><A NAME="1359"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285579266-01285583806- --> +<LI><A HREF="001364.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads - Use IMAP? +</A><A NAME="1364"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285582409- --> +<LI><A HREF="001362.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1362"> </A> +<I>Jan Ciger +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285582409-01285618067- --> +<LI><A HREF="001408.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1408"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285587312- --> +<LI><A HREF="001370.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia´s Blog translate +</A><A NAME="1370"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<!--0 01285587528- --> +<LI><A HREF="001371.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia - naming +</A><A NAME="1371"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<!--0 01285587589- --> +<LI><A HREF="001372.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1372"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<!--0 01285587639- --> +<LI><A HREF="001373.html">[Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker +</A><A NAME="1373"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<!--0 01285587728- --> +<LI><A HREF="001374.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Cooker"'s name, the poll +</A><A NAME="1374"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<!--0 01285588187- --> +<LI><A HREF="001375.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1375"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<!--0 01285589060- --> +<LI><A HREF="001376.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1376"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285589060-01285589390- --> +<LI><A HREF="001378.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1378"> </A> +<I>Jan Ciger +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285589060-01285589390-01285589681- --> +<LI><A HREF="001379.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1379"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285589060-01285589390-01285589681-01285598252- --> +<LI><A HREF="001395.html">[Mageia-discuss] Good move +</A><A NAME="1395"> </A> +<I>Lawrence A Fossi +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285589376- --> +<LI><A HREF="001381.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A><A NAME="1381"> </A> +<I>Dubeau, Patrick +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285589376-01285591617- --> +<LI><A HREF="001383.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A><A NAME="1383"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285591739- --> +<LI><A HREF="001384.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1384"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285591739-01285592494- --> +<LI><A HREF="001385.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1385"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285591739-01285592494-01285592618- --> +<LI><A HREF="001387.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1387"> </A> +<I>Sander Lepik +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285591739-01285592550- --> +<LI><A HREF="001386.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1386"> </A> +<I>Sander Lepik +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285591739-01285592550-01285599865- --> +<LI><A HREF="001396.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1396"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285591739-01285592870- --> +<LI><A HREF="001388.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1388"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285591739-01285592870-01285602554- --> +<LI><A HREF="001401.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1401"> </A> +<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285591739-01285592870-01285602554-01285603768- --> +<LI><A HREF="001402.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1402"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<!--3 01285591739-01285592870-01285602554-01285603768-01285606010- --> +<LI><A HREF="001405.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1405"> </A> +<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath +</I> + +<!--3 01285591739-01285592870-01285602554-01285603768-01285606010-01285608588- --> +<LI><A HREF="001406.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1406"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<!--3 01285591739-01285592870-01285602554-01285605956- --> +<LI><A HREF="001404.html">[Mageia-discuss] List language +</A><A NAME="1404"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285594767- --> +<LI><A HREF="001390.html">[Mageia-discuss] presentation + summary request +</A><A NAME="1390"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<!--0 01285595230- --> +<LI><A HREF="001391.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI tools +</A><A NAME="1391"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<!--0 01285596168- --> +<LI><A HREF="001392.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A><A NAME="1392"> </A> +<I>Juan Carlos de la Cruz +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285596168-01285596244- --> +<LI><A HREF="001393.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A><A NAME="1393"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285596168-01285596244-01285596987- --> +<LI><A HREF="001394.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A><A NAME="1394"> </A> +<I>Juan Carlos de la Cruz +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285596168-01285601884- --> +<LI><A HREF="001400.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A><A NAME="1400"> </A> +<I>Diego Bello +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285596168-01285601884-01285624654- --> +<LI><A HREF="001412.html">[Mageia-discuss] Donations page translated to Spanish +</A><A NAME="1412"> </A> +<I>Andre Machado +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285600947- --> +<LI><A HREF="001397.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia with Synaptic +</A><A NAME="1397"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<!--0 01285601160- --> +<LI><A HREF="001399.html">[Mageia-discuss] Help about gmane and broken threads +</A><A NAME="1399"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<!--0 01285601343- --> +<LI><A HREF="001398.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1398"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285601343-01285604745- --> +<LI><A HREF="001403.html">[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb? +</A><A NAME="1403"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285614326- --> +<LI><A HREF="001407.html">[Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"? +</A><A NAME="1407"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<!--0 01285618656- --> +<LI><A HREF="001409.html">[Mageia-discuss] Comments on Ignacio's logo +</A><A NAME="1409"> </A> +<I>Erwan Velu +</I> + +<!--0 01285624251- --> +<LI><A HREF="001410.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1410"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Sep 27 23:57:34 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Sep 28 00:00:14 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |