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They're just lexically linked +</I>><i> to magic, superstition or something like that. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The first word that come to mind when I think of Mageia is community. +</I>><i> Community evokes other terms for me : friendship, open minds, share, +</I>><i> doing something together, that's to say terms that evoke exchange +</I>><i> between people. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Luckily enough, the first lettre of Mageia is an M which can be +</I>><i> stretched enough to look like a man. If I think of friendship, I think +</I>><i> of the "emoticon" \o/, meaning you're happy to see someone and welcome +</I>><i> him. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This started as a base for a logo. I personnally like simple logos think +</I>><i> of the M of McDonalds for instance. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And this is the result : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464618/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464618/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Black and white version : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464608/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464608/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> When I first looked at it again, it made me think of this picture : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.asdfing.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/facts_about_leonardo_da_vinci.jpg">http://www.asdfing.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/facts_about_leonardo_da_vinci.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I find this evocation very positive, it reminds the age of +</I>><i> enlightenment, I hope it's not negative to some people, but the idea I +</I>><i> keep is the progress of human knowledge about life the universe and +</I>><i> everything (sorry for the reference :p) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The nice thing is that it scales very well, even at small sizes (16 px +</I>><i> still looks good) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now, here are some guidelines to use it : +</I>><i> Leave at least half the diameter of the circle around the logo, don't +</I>><i> put anything in this zone. The logo itself is blue, so it should not be +</I>><i> put on a blue or red background, the contrast will be either too small +</I>><i> or too sharp. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The logo shall not be stretched, either vertically or horizontally. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you want to print it on paper, the logo should not exceed 1/5 of the +</I>><i> width/height of the paper +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The font used there is simply bitstream vera sans, except for the M and +</I>><i> the g, which has been a bit customized to remind a lowercase gamma (γ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Other letters are greeks alpha, iota, and epsilon. They're not so +</I>><i> different from their latin counterpart and look more elegant IMHO. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Only 3 colours are used in the colour version: 2 variants of dark blue, +</I>><i> and white. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm no design expert, and did not want to customize it too much, in the +</I>><i> hope it could serve as a base for other logos. I didn't use many colours +</I>><i> either so that we can change it, if we decide this colour does not fit. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Unfortunately, as it is very simple in its design, I fear there is a +</I>><i> high chance that a similar logo exists as well, sorry if it's the case +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I hope you like this idea, feedback would be very welcome :) +</I> +Nice logo Remy! :o) + +One trivia question: Do the darkened hands (but not feet) outside of +the circle represent something? +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001171.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1129">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1129">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1129">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1129">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001130.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001130.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..90bbcbeae --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001130.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20donations&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7j8qe%2440r%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001171.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001135.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20donations&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7j8qe%2440r%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 00:30:38 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001171.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001135.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1130">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1130">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1130">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1130">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-09-24 17:45, Olivier Méjean a écrit : +><i> Hi guys ! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As promised some news about donations. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> At the moment, more than 1800€ has been raised on paypal account which create +</I>><i> some trouble. As we have just set up our paypal account for Mageia and as we +</I>><i> received many donations for Mageia, we have some limitations by paypal. I've +</I>><i> send many documents to remove those limitations yesterday and today. So i hope +</I>><i> limitations will be removed soon. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Why do i speak about limitations, that's because at the very moment we cannot +</I>><i> overpass 2000€ for the incoming money, so you see the point. I keep on eye on +</I>><i> our paypal account to notice any change. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Slightly more than 700€ of donation by bank transfert. This is the solution i +</I>><i> recommend even if you may need to go to your bank, there is no limitation +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And 50€ by check if my treasurer's information is right :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So that's more than 2500€ for now, keep on, share the adress : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://donate.mageia.org">http://donate.mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Stay tuned for next news !! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +Wow! Good news considering the little time this has been running. + +Is there anything that we could do to help raise the $$$ amount +restrictions. Some of our community members may have some financial +clout. Why/what are the limitations. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001171.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001135.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1130">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1130">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1130">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1130">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001131.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001131.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eb407669b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001131.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Cooker%27s%20Name&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7j8v0%2440r%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001138.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001177.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Cooker%27s%20Name&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7j8v0%2440r%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 00:33:04 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001138.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001177.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1131">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1131">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1131">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1131">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> Choosing the name for the development version was only one task from +</I>><i> a long list, and this one has been very visible, others are still in +</I>><i> dark. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Beside the joke I did we have a lot of people currently working to +</I>><i> make the mageia dream a reality. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I> +It was visible because is was really well-run. + +BTW ... 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Is there anything cooking in the Cauldron yet? + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001138.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001177.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1131">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1131">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1131">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1131">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001132.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001132.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7e18eba82 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001132.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20KDE%204.5.1&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7j90r%2440r%243%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001177.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001158.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20KDE%204.5.1&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7j90r%2440r%243%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 00:34:03 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001177.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001158.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1132">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1132">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1132">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1132">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I was wondering if the KDE dev for Mandriva is here? + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001177.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001158.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1132">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1132">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1132">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1132">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001133.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001133.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d3cc5ae69 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001133.html @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailist%20etiquette%20--%20gentle%20reminder&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7jaqe%24anv%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001200.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001134.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailist%20etiquette%20--%20gentle%20reminder&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7jaqe%24anv%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 01:04:42 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001200.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001134.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1133">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1133">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1133">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1133">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> Most email clients will automatically delete a correctly formatted +</I>><i> signature block. Unfortunately, this list's signature is not +</I>><i> correctly formatted - it should have two hyphens, followed by a +</I>><i> space, followed by carriage return, followed by the signature +</I>><i> contents - so users have to manually delete it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Compare my personal signature below with the list signature above +</I>><i> to see the formatting problem - perhaps someone with admin powers on +</I>><i> the list setup could correct this? +</I>><i> +</I> +I am not sure if anyone was aware of this. + +If you are seriously making use of this mailist, you may try to use the +Gmane services instead. You can navigate back and forth through the +discussion threads very easily and it is more efficient as following the +development of ideas. Most email agents will also let you tag a thread +so that you can spot them qucker. + +The people who read the mailist on the other hand will often delete past +threads or emails and lose the development of the thread. Some arguments +make no sense if you delete a critical argument and a thread often time +will develop sub-threads. + +Marc + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001200.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001134.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1133">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1133">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1133">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1133">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001134.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001134.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1181b7b3c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001134.html @@ -0,0 +1,177 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7jbbu%24ckd%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001133.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001140.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7jbbu%24ckd%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 01:14:06 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001133.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001140.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1134">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1134">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1134">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1134">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-09-24 17:33, Remy CLOUARD a écrit : +><i> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 03:13:02PM +0300, Mihai Dobrescu wrote: +</I>>><i> Indeed, a relation to the Mandriva is desirable to be avoided, IMHO. Not +</I>>><i> because I hate or even dislike Mandriva. Just something fresh is needed. +</I>>><i> This is, I guess, one of the success components of re-branding in the life +</I>>><i> of any product. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I have not enough skills to draw (I will try though), but I propose some +</I>>><i> logos, based on Mageia's meaning, but a bit derived: +</I>>><i> - a black cat (+ some black stars instead of eyes' pupils, alternately) +</I>>><i> - cat's eye or eyes (+ some black stars instead of eyes' pupils, +</I>>><i> alternately) +</I>>><i> - an owl ((+ some black stars instead of eyes' pupils, alternately) +</I>>><i> - any of these above in the Moon (on the Moon's horn) +</I>>><i> - an orb (my preferred) (in Edgar Allan Poe's stories the orb is a link, +</I>>><i> like a screen - the monitor -, to other worlds ;) ) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What do you think? +</I>><i> Let me put my 2 cents here :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> All the above terms evoke nothing for me. They’re just lexically linked +</I>><i> to magic, superstition or something like that. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The first word that come to mind when I think of Mageia is community. +</I>><i> Community evokes other terms for me : friendship, open minds, share, +</I>><i> doing something together, that’s to say terms that evoke exchange +</I>><i> between people. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Luckily enough, the first lettre of Mageia is an M which can be +</I>><i> stretched enough to look like a man. If I think of friendship, I think +</I>><i> of the “emoticon” \o/, meaning you’re happy to see someone and welcome +</I>><i> him. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This started as a base for a logo. I personnally like simple logos think +</I>><i> of the M of McDonalds for instance. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And this is the result : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464618/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464618/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Black and white version : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464608/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464608/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> When I first looked at it again, it made me think of this picture : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.asdfing.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/facts_about_leonardo_da_vinci.jpg">http://www.asdfing.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/facts_about_leonardo_da_vinci.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I find this evocation very positive, it reminds the age of +</I>><i> enlightenment, I hope it’s not negative to some people, but the idea I +</I>><i> keep is the progress of human knowledge about life the universe and +</I>><i> everything (sorry for the reference :p) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The nice thing is that it scales very well, even at small sizes (16 px +</I>><i> still looks good) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now, here are some guidelines to use it : +</I>><i> Leave at least half the diameter of the circle around the logo, don’t +</I>><i> put anything in this zone. The logo itself is blue, so it should not be +</I>><i> put on a blue or red background, the contrast will be either too small +</I>><i> or too sharp. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The logo shall not be stretched, either vertically or horizontally. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you want to print it on paper, the logo should not exceed 1/5 of the +</I>><i> width/height of the paper +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The font used there is simply bitstream vera sans, except for the M and +</I>><i> the g, which has been a bit customized to remind a lowercase gamma (γ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Other letters are greeks alpha, iota, and epsilon. They’re not so +</I>><i> different from their latin counterpart and look more elegant IMHO. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Only 3 colours are used in the colour version: 2 variants of dark blue, +</I>><i> and white. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I’m no design expert, and did not want to customize it too much, in the +</I>><i> hope it could serve as a base for other logos. I didn’t use many colours +</I>><i> either so that we can change it, if we decide this colour does not fit. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Unfortunately, as it is very simple in its design, I fear there is a +</I>><i> high chance that a similar logo exists as well, sorry if it’s the case +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I hope you like this idea, feedback would be very welcome :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Best regards, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I> +Nice logo. I like the fact that the actual logo is independent of the +"Mageia" word. You could then easily use the logo alone where the +situation presents itself. Nice logo to use for branding purposes. I +imagine you could then adapt it to a defined colour scheme if there is +on picked for the logo/website? Maybe, you could work out some examples +of coloured versions to show how this would look? + +Nice. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001133.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001140.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1134">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1134">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1134">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1134">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001135.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001135.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fc5551dc0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001135.html @@ -0,0 +1,156 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20donations&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9D33A3.3010809%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001130.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001136.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations</H1> + <B>DjeZAeL</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20donations&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9D33A3.3010809%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations">djezael at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 01:26:27 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001130.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001136.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1135">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1135">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1135">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1135">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 25/09/2010 00:30, Marc Paré a écrit : +><i> Le 2010-09-24 17:45, Olivier Méjean a écrit : +</I>>><i> Hi guys ! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As promised some news about donations. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> At the moment, more than 1800€ has been raised on paypal account +</I>>><i> which create +</I>>><i> some trouble. As we have just set up our paypal account for Mageia +</I>>><i> and as we +</I>>><i> received many donations for Mageia, we have some limitations by +</I>>><i> paypal. I've +</I>>><i> send many documents to remove those limitations yesterday and today. +</I>>><i> So i hope +</I>>><i> limitations will be removed soon. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Why do i speak about limitations, that's because at the very moment +</I>>><i> we cannot +</I>>><i> overpass 2000€ for the incoming money, so you see the point. I keep +</I>>><i> on eye on +</I>>><i> our paypal account to notice any change. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Slightly more than 700€ of donation by bank transfert. This is the +</I>>><i> solution i +</I>>><i> recommend even if you may need to go to your bank, there is no +</I>>><i> limitation +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> And 50€ by check if my treasurer's information is right :) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> So that's more than 2500€ for now, keep on, share the adress : +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://donate.mageia.org">http://donate.mageia.org</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Stay tuned for next news !! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Thanks +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Wow! Good news considering the little time this has been running. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is there anything that we could do to help raise the $$$ amount +</I>><i> restrictions. Some of our community members may have some financial +</I>><i> clout. Why/what are the limitations. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I> +Hi Folks ! +I'm Elodie (aka DjeZAeL), the assistant treasurer of AUFML, and i set up +the donation campaign. + +Here is the message of PayPal about the limitations. + + /*23 sep 2010: *PayPal exige des comptes relevant de la catégorie + organisation caritative/à but non lucratif des informations + supplémentaires sur leur organisation. Lors d'une étude récente, + votre compte a été identifié comme relevant de cette classification. + Sans réponse de votre part, nous pourrons restreindre l'accès à + votre compte./ + /PayPal est légalement tenu de respecter les réglementations de + l'Union européenne concernant le blanchiment d'argent, en collectant + des informations auprès de ses utilisateurs lorsque ces derniers + reçoivent des paiements d'un montant total supérieur à la limite + définie./ + /Si vous avez des difficultés à suivre la procédure, n'hésitez pas à + nous contacter + <<A HREF="https://www.paypal.com/fr/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_contact-phone">https://www.paypal.com/fr/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_contact-phone</A>>./ + /Nous vous remercions de votre confiance et vous prions de nous + excuser pour tout désagrément éventuel./ + + + +Here under, the limitations currently enforced on the Paypal account : + + Type de limite Montant de la limite Il reste Date de redéfinition + Limite de paiement annuelle €1 500,00 EUR €1 500,00 EUR 21 sep 2011 + Limite de virement mensuelle €750,00 EUR €100,00 EUR + Limite de virement annuelle €1 000,00 EUR €350,00 EUR 21 sep 2011 + Limite de réception annuelle €2 500,00 EUR €163,90 EUR 21 sep 2011 + + +We have already made a transfer of 650,00 EUR to the bank account of +AUFML in order to have money immediately usable for Mageia. + +All the documents required by PayPal were already provided, they are +being processed. +I'm scanning the PayPal account thoroughly to raise the limits as soon +as possible. + + +Elodie (doing her best) + + +PS: sorry if the paste are in French, the PayPal account is in French +since AUFML and I are French ;) (and my english is not very good) + +-- +DjeZAeL / Elodie + +Utilisatrice de Logiciels Libres et de GNU/Linux +"Le chemin est long mais la voie est Libre" + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001130.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001136.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1135">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1135">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1135">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1135">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001136.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001136.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..62c59eb65 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001136.html @@ -0,0 +1,128 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20donations&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7jd61%24i8j%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001135.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001137.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20donations&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7jd61%24i8j%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 01:45:05 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001135.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001137.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1136">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1136">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1136">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1136">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> Hi Folks ! +</I>><i> I'm Elodie (aka DjeZAeL), the assistant treasurer of AUFML, and i set up +</I>><i> the donation campaign. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Here is the message of PayPal about the limitations. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> /*23 sep 2010: *PayPal exige des comptes relevant de la catégorie +</I>><i> organisation caritative/à but non lucratif des informations +</I>><i> supplémentaires sur leur organisation. Lors d'une étude récente, +</I>><i> votre compte a été identifié comme relevant de cette classification. +</I>><i> Sans réponse de votre part, nous pourrons restreindre l'accès à +</I>><i> votre compte./ +</I>><i> /PayPal est légalement tenu de respecter les réglementations de +</I>><i> l'Union européenne concernant le blanchiment d'argent, en collectant +</I>><i> des informations auprès de ses utilisateurs lorsque ces derniers +</I>><i> reçoivent des paiements d'un montant total supérieur à la limite +</I>><i> définie./ +</I>><i> /Si vous avez des difficultés à suivre la procédure, n'hésitez pas à +</I>><i> nous contacter +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.paypal.com/fr/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_contact-phone">https://www.paypal.com/fr/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_contact-phone</A>>./ +</I>><i> /Nous vous remercions de votre confiance et vous prions de nous +</I>><i> excuser pour tout désagrément éventuel./ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Here under, the limitations currently enforced on the Paypal account : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Type de limite Montant de la limite Il reste Date de redéfinition +</I>><i> Limite de paiement annuelle €1 500,00 EUR €1 500,00 EUR 21 sep 2011 +</I>><i> Limite de virement mensuelle €750,00 EUR €100,00 EUR +</I>><i> Limite de virement annuelle €1 000,00 EUR €350,00 EUR 21 sep 2011 +</I>><i> Limite de réception annuelle €2 500,00 EUR €163,90 EUR 21 sep 2011 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We have already made a transfer of 650,00 EUR to the bank account of +</I>><i> AUFML in order to have money immediately usable for Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> All the documents required by PayPal were already provided, they are +</I>><i> being processed. +</I>><i> I'm scanning the PayPal account thoroughly to raise the limits as soon +</I>><i> as possible. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Elodie (doing her best) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> PS: sorry if the paste are in French, the PayPal account is in French +</I>><i> since AUFML and I are French ;) (and my english is not very good) +</I>><i> +</I> +Merci Elodie des informations. + +It sounds like they are just waiting for the proper documentation to +unlock the limits and that you have submitted the proper paperwork. + +Part of the translation --> PayPal is legally responsible to the +European Union for the enforcement of regulations to prevent money +laundering. They are waiting for more documentation to unlock the limit. ... + +As you say, you have provided the information and judging from your note +this is just a matter of time. + +Thanks for helping out with the transfers. I imagine that even if you +withdrew the 650,00 Euro, that the limit is still almost reached and it +will be locked once we have reached that limit? + +Still a good sign of the financial support the community is willing to give. + +Marc + + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001135.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001137.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1136">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1136">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1136">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1136">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001137.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001137.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..49aacda08 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001137.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20donations&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9D3A3B.9040500%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001136.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001138.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20donations&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9D3A3B.9040500%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 01:54:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001136.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001138.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1137">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1137">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1137">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1137">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 25/09/2010 01:45, Marc Paré a écrit : +>><i> Hi Folks ! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> [...] +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Merci Elodie des informations. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> [...] +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Still a good sign of the financial support the community is willing to +</I>><i> give. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I>Hi there, + +I've added a security system on donation site : When we reach 1950€ the +Paypal buttons will be replaced by a short sentence explaining why it's +disabled. + +That should prevent us from being really locked... but that will not +solve the problem. + +Stay tuned :) + +Maât + + + + + + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001136.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001138.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1137">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1137">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1137">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1137">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001138.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001138.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1b971f754 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001138.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20donations&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7jek6%24mh2%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001137.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001131.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20donations&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7jek6%24mh2%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 02:09:42 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001137.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001131.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1138">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1138">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1138">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1138">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-09-24 19:54, Maât a écrit : +><i> Le 25/09/2010 01:45, Marc Paré a écrit : +</I>>>><i> Hi Folks ! +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> [...] +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Merci Elodie des informations. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> [...] +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Still a good sign of the financial support the community is willing to +</I>>><i> give. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Marc +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Hi there, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I've added a security system on donation site : When we reach 1950€ the +</I>><i> Paypal buttons will be replaced by a short sentence explaining why it's +</I>><i> disabled. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That should prevent us from being really locked... but that will not +</I>><i> solve the problem. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Stay tuned :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maât +</I>><i> +</I> +Okey dokey. We'll hang on to our millions till you let us know. :) + +Cheers + +Marc + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001137.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001131.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1138">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1138">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1138">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1138">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001139.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001139.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..979928953 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001139.html @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20donations&In-Reply-To=%3C20100924171158.1E68A063%40resin09.mta.everyone.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001175.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001182.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations</H1> + <B>André Machado</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20donations&In-Reply-To=%3C20100924171158.1E68A063%40resin09.mta.everyone.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations">afmachado at dcemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 02:11:58 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001175.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001182.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1139">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1139">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1139">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1139">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +--- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A> escreveu: + +From: Maât <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>> +To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 01:54:35 +0200 + +Le 25/09/2010 01:45, Marc Paré a écrit : +>><i> Hi Folks ! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> [...] +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Merci Elodie des informations. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> [...] +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Still a good sign of the financial support the community is willing to +</I>><i> give. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I>Hi there, + +I've added a security system on donation site : When we reach 1950€ the +Paypal buttons will be replaced by a short sentence explaining why it's +disabled. + +That should prevent us from being really locked... but that will not +solve the problem. + +Stay tuned :) + +Maât + +Create another account doesn't work? :D + + +_____________________________________________________________ +Washington DC's Largest FREE Email service. ---> <A HREF="http://www.DCemail.com">http://www.DCemail.com</A> ---> A Washington Online Community Member ---> +<A HREF="http://www.DCpages.com">http://www.DCpages.com</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001175.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001182.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1139">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1139">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1139">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1139">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001140.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001140.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..34e63012f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001140.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dmtha2xMpwZiaXOJWxRczYDFOr_J-Q8YjKwmb7%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001134.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001163.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</H1> + <B>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dmtha2xMpwZiaXOJWxRczYDFOr_J-Q8YjKwmb7%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 02:23:48 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001134.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001163.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1140">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1140">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1140">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1140">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>As I said, IMHO logo must be simple. + +Logos that I like: + +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017913690/in/pool-mageia-art#/photos/54240048@N08/5017913690/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017913690/in/pool-mageia-art#/photos/54240048@N08/5017913690/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> + +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/in/pool-mageia-art#/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/in/pool-mageia-art#/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> + +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017306285/in/pool-mageia-art#/photos/54240048@N08/5017306285/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017306285/in/pool-mageia-art#/photos/54240048@N08/5017306285/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> + +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017306481/in/pool-mageia-art#/photos/54240048@N08/5017306481/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017306481/in/pool-mageia-art#/photos/54240048@N08/5017306481/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> + +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017306435/in/pool-mageia-art#/photos/54240048@N08/5017306435/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017306435/in/pool-mageia-art#/photos/54240048@N08/5017306435/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> + +All these logos look simple enough. BUt they are elegant. + +I think that all famous logos have in common that they are simple: an +apple, a red hat, the "evil" window, etc. + +Cheers! + + +tavillo1980 +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001134.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001163.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1140">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1140">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1140">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1140">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001141.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001141.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..988b0b006 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001141.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [PORTUGUESE] Portugal inhabitants: do you want a separated translation? 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What's cooking so far at the "Cauldron"? +</I>><i> As O'l Bill of the Shaky Spear put it in MacBeth: +</I>><i> "Bubble, bubble, toil and trouble." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>Now there's a slogan useful for something? +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100924/20030072/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001248.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001146.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1144">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1144">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1144">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1144">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001145.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001145.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..63a0a8115 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001145.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? 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Full owner's information is available at <A HREF="http://who.is/whois/mageia-br.org/">http://who.is/whois/mageia-br.org/</A> + +Another site, with a Mageia forum (!) what home page is pointing to mageia.org/pt-br is www.mageia.com.br, what belongs to Alfredo Gomes da Silva Júnior +. + +Who is has contact informations (but .br domains need be viewed at registro.br, what can be difficult to non-portuguese speakers). 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Let's keep it in English on the +</I>><i> English-oriented websites. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> +</I> + + +Me too +Because in every language the slogan sounds different, some times cant be +exactly the english translation. So, before i use it in articles, forums +etc, id like the opinion of other, greek spoken, here. + +Or i was nt explained correctly or you read very fast the messages. + + +-- +Dimitrios Glentadakis +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/41b8a4b9/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001174.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001148.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1147">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1147">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1147">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1147">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001148.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001148.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b30f50c9a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001148.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%201%2C%20Issue%20162&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik3huSwTonDpTsJYWv0nMo1B%3DYv0FG1xsdtcCyU%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001147.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001149.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162</H1> + <B>Luis Fernando Carrillo Vega</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%201%2C%20Issue%20162&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik3huSwTonDpTsJYWv0nMo1B%3DYv0FG1xsdtcCyU%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162">dux.v02 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 05:09:09 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001147.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's slogan in greek +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001149.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1148">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1148">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1148">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1148">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello to all. + +I've following this mailist for a while and i think it's time to +introduce myself. + +I'm the author of this logo proposal: +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/eleefece/5012254437/in/set-72157624887209341/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/eleefece/5012254437/in/set-72157624887209341/</A> + +As well as all of this: +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/eleefece/sets/72157624887209341/with/5020364993/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/eleefece/sets/72157624887209341/with/5020364993/</A> + +And i just wanted to say that if you want to give me some feedback +regarding the logos, i'll try gladly to take your advise. + +well, i think it's all. I wish the best of luck for all the people +behind Mageia, and be sure i'll help as much as i can. + +cheers. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001147.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's slogan in greek +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001149.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1148">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1148">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1148">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1148">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001149.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001149.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4d91d166c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001149.html @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%201%2C%20Issue%20162&In-Reply-To=%3C1B2835EC-5CCF-46BD-A784-98A8DFD22E01%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001148.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001151.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162</H1> + <B>SinnerBOFH</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%201%2C%20Issue%20162&In-Reply-To=%3C1B2835EC-5CCF-46BD-A784-98A8DFD22E01%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162">sinnerbofh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 05:31:20 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001148.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001151.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1149">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1149">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1149">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1149">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sep 24, 2010, at 11:09 PM, Luis Fernando Carrillo Vega <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dux.v02 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> Hello to all. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I've following this mailist for a while and i think it's time to +</I>><i> introduce myself. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm the author of this logo proposal: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/eleefece/5012254437/in/set-72157624887209341/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/eleefece/5012254437/in/set-72157624887209341/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As well as all of this: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/eleefece/sets/72157624887209341/with/5020364993/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/eleefece/sets/72157624887209341/with/5020364993/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And i just wanted to say that if you want to give me some feedback +</I>><i> regarding the logos, i'll try gladly to take your advise. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> well, i think it's all. I wish the best of luck for all the people +</I>><i> behind Mageia, and be sure i'll help as much as i can. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> cheers. +</I> +Luis, + +I love your logos, my favorites so far. They show adaptability. Very professional. + +Could you make a set more "glassy"? + +And some blueish tone variations, to provide samples in how different tones will look right "for real". + +Thank you for all the creativity to you and to all the other talented contributors to Mageia Art + +Salut, +Sinner +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001148.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001151.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1149">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1149">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1149">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1149">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001150.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001150.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..267ce65cd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001150.html @@ -0,0 +1,136 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20who%20knows%20about%20site%20mageia-br%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009250056.09512.terraagua%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001237.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001152.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?</H1> + <B>terraagua at gmail.com</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20who%20knows%20about%20site%20mageia-br%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009250056.09512.terraagua%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?">terraagua at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 05:56:09 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001237.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001152.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1150">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1150">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1150">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1150">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Afmachado, + +I Just want to know if it was discussed here or is a independent project. + +Thanks + +MacXi + +Em Sex 24 Set 2010, às 23:48:31, André Machado escreveu: +><i> --- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A> escreveu: +</I>><i> From: "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>> +</I>><i> To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> Subject: [Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</I>><i> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:40:46 -0300 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Olá, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> who knows about site megeia-br? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The creation of site mageia-br (<A HREF="http://mageia-br.org/">http://mageia-br.org/</A>) occurred with +</I>><i> the agreement / probation this forum or IRC? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> MacXi +</I>><i> +</I>><i> brazilian community of Mandriva users. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss +</I>><i> mailing list <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> According to what I could ascertain, mageia-br.org was created on Sep 22th +</I>><i> and belongs to Ricardo Lucas da Silva. Full owner's information is +</I>><i> available at <A HREF="http://who.is/whois/mageia-br.org/">http://who.is/whois/mageia-br.org/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Another site, with a Mageia forum (!) what home page is pointing to +</I>><i> mageia.org/pt-br is www.mageia.com.br, what belongs to Alfredo Gomes da +</I>><i> Silva Júnior . +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Who is has contact informations (but .br domains need be viewed at +</I>><i> registro.br, what can be difficult to non-portuguese speakers). 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I wish the best of luck for all the people +</I>><i> behind Mageia, and be sure i'll help as much as i can. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> cheers. +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +I've introduced myself earlier but said little as I am humble printing +pressman. I like this: + +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/eleefece/5012254437/in/set-72157624887209341/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/eleefece/5012254437/in/set-72157624887209341/</A> + +because the stars add a depth to the concept of magic or mageia. But I +prefer this color scheme: + +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/eleefece/5015299912/in/set-72157624887209341/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/eleefece/5015299912/in/set-72157624887209341/</A> + +or would enjoy more even more a color scheme involving Bordeaux and more +black with also some yellow and/or gold. Not sure if I am knowledgeable +enough but elegant yet bold with some contrast while staying with a +somewhat simplistic design may render more better across less +sophisticated hardware? Magenta is color not much represented in +proposed logos and may translate psychologically differently and perhaps +better than red. I love the idea of Bordeaux for something in this +project though. Hmm... Magenta.... If only I had the skills to draw. +Also a soft cherry color. Hmm. Just thinking. Dreaming. Imagining. + + -- + +Thanks, +Ben Bullard +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001149.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001230.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1151">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1151">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1151">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1151">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001152.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001152.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1c7b00295 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001152.html @@ -0,0 +1,159 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D1y1O5GtL%3D%3DiqqC5M%3D0UvJnHCm9EFXLiAGuASG%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001150.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001191.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D1y1O5GtL%3D%3DiqqC5M%3D0UvJnHCm9EFXLiAGuASG%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 06:57:51 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001150.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001191.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1152">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1152">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1152">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1152">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 24 September 2010 14:58, Juergen Harms <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>> wrote: +><i> Picking up from where Mageia forked off, many things activities look like +</I>><i> continuity from Mandriva Linux. But forking is also a challenge to find not +</I>><i> too hard to implement improvements - such as "bugzilla monitoring". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think I am not the only one who frequently felt frustrated submitting yet +</I>><i> another bug, knowing that it had more 50% of chance to disappear the +</I>><i> "oubliettes". I think there is an objective question: if bugs are not +</I>><i> followed up, that should not just happen by accident - there should be an +</I>><i> explicit and justified decision. There is also a subjective question: a user +</I>><i> who went through the pains to write a good bug report should get a feedback +</I>><i> with a followup, even if there are no "comments" in the bugzilla data base. +</I>><i> +</I> +Well, let me put it this way, a bug report will go unfixed in the +following cases: +- Triage work ends when the bug report is assigned to the maintainer; +if the bug has no maintainer then the chances that it'll get fixed are +a bit lower (some packages have no maintainer but are used by a lot of +users so it gets fixed any way) + +- The package has a maintainer but he's overworked and has a huge +backlog, unfortunately that happens to everyone, in this case posting +a new comment in the report should bring it back up in his list; +pinging a bug report is the reporter's responsibility (triage team is +always understaffed so to speak, too many bug reports, too few people +to triage them all); so if after say a week of reporting a bug you get +no response from the maintainer feel free to ask in the report. + +It's always nice to acknowledge a bug report but unfortunately that +doesn't always happen... you have to understand that a lot of bug +reports go in per day (it also seasonal, i.e. towards the end of the +development cycle the amount of bug reports increases considerably). + +Another point is, there isn't a bugzilla where some bug reports don't +go forgotten, again ideally this shouldn't happen, but there's ideal +and there's what really happens :/ + +><i> Some ideas: have a "lost bug advocate"? create a team - just like the +</I>><i> "triage team" that feels responsible for bugs not to disappear? (different +</I>><i> from the, but talking to, maybe overlapping the triage team, leaning on the +</I>><i> "dev" - in Mageia it will be a volonteer, even more important - to whom a +</I>><i> bug is assigned) - proposing and justifying which bugs - for the time being +</I>><i> - will have no follow up), creating some commented statistics on the fate of +</I>><i> bugs - good for QA, but also for PR about Mageia? trigger an alarm if too +</I>><i> many bugs remain un-resolved? - always assuming that enough active +</I>><i> contribution can be recruited from the temp. wiki list. I also believe that, +</I>><i> for Mageia, the situation is different. In Mandriva, I guess that some +</I>><i> (many?) of these acitivities were done by staff of the QA group - in Mageia +</I>><i> an alternative is needed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe Mandriva had something like this - if yes, it was too well hidden. +</I> +As I said, pining a bug report to bring to the attention of the +package maintainer is the reporter's responsibility, at least given +the fact that he's suffering from that bug, i.e. he has a strong +motive. + +You also have to bear in mind that sometimes a bug reporter doesn't +remember, or doesn't bother, to close a report when a bug he'd +reported has been fixed. + +Also note that before a new release a lot of devs/packagers go through +all the reports assigned to them (depending on their time of course if +they're contributors doing dev work in their free time, or employees +with other more critical things to fix before a release). + +><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001150.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001191.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1152">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1152">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1152">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1152">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001153.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001153.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..720e65439 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001153.html @@ -0,0 +1,143 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinbPr9PD1tLe6f%2BC1-k%2B%3DqLqe%2B_fqYwDaxy7UuZ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001234.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001154.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinbPr9PD1tLe6f%2BC1-k%2B%3DqLqe%2B_fqYwDaxy7UuZ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 06:57:55 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001234.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001154.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1153">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1153">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1153">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1153">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 24 September 2010 15:15, Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Well... if I report a BUG, I'm responsible for it :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I mean, I have a problem, I report the bug, and I keep bothering until +</I>><i> someone answer me. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It has no sense to report a bug and leave it / forget it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Reporter must follow his own bug. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Create a team to control that another team doesn't forget is (IMHO and +</I>><i> no offense intended) a waste of resources even if that team is made +</I>><i> with volunteers. Because these volunteers could do something more +</I>><i> important. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> tavillo1980 +</I> +Righto :) + +Note that, as I said before, triage team has always been understaffed. +Adam Williamson and Pacho Ramos were doing a marvellous job triaging +all sorts of reports, I know they were overwhelmed a lot of times by +the huge numbers of bug reports. + +><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> a lot of times +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001234.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001154.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1153">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1153">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1153">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1153">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001154.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001154.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..238f0368c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001154.html @@ -0,0 +1,125 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailist%20etiquette%20--%20gentle%20reminder&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikaxB%3DyNp1Yzy6rtAts-d_bnF175vdvJY7d_MzS%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001153.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001155.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailist%20etiquette%20--%20gentle%20reminder&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikaxB%3DyNp1Yzy6rtAts-d_bnF175vdvJY7d_MzS%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 07:16:32 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001153.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001155.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1154">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1154">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1154">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1154">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 24 September 2010 20:50, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> 2010/9/24 Remco Rijnders <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remco at webconquest.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I think it would help if these etiquette rules would be part of the +</I>>><i> confirmation message people receive when signing up to these lists. I know +</I>>><i> everyone is mega-utterly busy, but a few minutes here might save a lot of +</I>>><i> time and annoyance over and over :-) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sorry, but reality shows that nobody reads such confirmation messages +</I>><i> except for the part where a password is given or other such +</I>><i> information. Did you read the whole confirmation message from mailman +</I>><i> for this list? I did not. +</I> +Yes, that's a fact of life :) + +One fully reads the manual after he's used the product/thing/device +for a while... + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001153.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001155.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1154">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1154">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1154">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1154">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001155.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001155.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..792d5f724 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001155.html @@ -0,0 +1,159 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailist%20etiquette%20--%20gentle%20reminder&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimcKJTL1jgs%3DsKNF--i%2BBzV9Hj-YjfMf5vQ2iJc%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001154.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001156.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailist%20etiquette%20--%20gentle%20reminder&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimcKJTL1jgs%3DsKNF--i%2BBzV9Hj-YjfMf5vQ2iJc%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 07:25:16 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001154.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001156.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1155">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1155">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1155">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1155">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 24 September 2010 21:21, Marc Paré <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Le 2010-09-24 14:04, Remco Rijnders a écrit : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 07:50:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> 2010/9/24 Remco Rijnders<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remco at webconquest.com</A>>: +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> I think it would help if these etiquette rules would be part of the +</I>>>>><i> confirmation message people receive when signing up to these lists. I +</I>>>>><i> know +</I>>>>><i> everyone is mega-utterly busy, but a few minutes here might save a lot +</I>>>>><i> of +</I>>>>><i> time and annoyance over and over :-) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Sorry, but reality shows that nobody reads such confirmation messages +</I>>>><i> except for the part where a password is given or other such +</I>>>><i> information. Did you read the whole confirmation message from mailman +</I>>>><i> for this list? I did not. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I would have if I had not recognised it was nothing but the default +</I>>><i> mailman message. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Or perhaps a pointer to a page with etiquette information instead of the +</I>>><i> obvious that gets appened to every post on this list now. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> It may not help for all cases (if indeed as you claim nobody reads these), +</I>>><i> but surely it can't hurt? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Remco +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I really think it is easier if some people accept the responsibility of +</I>><i> doing a gentle reminder every now and then to the list. It takes seconds to +</I>><i> do this. However, it should be sent by someone who has an official +</I>><i> designation to make impact/clout. This is normally done through the email +</I>><i> identifier, in this case, "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">____ at mageia.org</A>". It can be a temporary +</I>><i> assignation till the organization is more structured. I am surprised that +</I>><i> the email address assignation has not been addressed. It is such an easy +</I>><i> thing to set up. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I> +Well, first they set the servers in the datacenter(s) first, then +aliases, @mageia.org, assigning ensues. (Personally I don't see a +particular hurry about that especially as there's no SVN repos yet). + +Also bear in mind that the news about the new fork made a lot of users +start using mailing lists for the first time (I see some users who're +more used to using forums posting here \o/). So it's not just a +reminder, but actually a first-time-note about the whole +mailing-lists-posting-etiquette which is brand new to some users. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001154.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001156.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1155">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1155">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1155">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1155">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001156.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001156.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..832c9ed99 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001156.html @@ -0,0 +1,126 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailist%20etiquette%20--%20gentle%20reminder&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimwmMH%3DVKKN3BMawoE-B3xxpyNn%2B_MneyQjXK5x%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001155.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001159.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailist%20etiquette%20--%20gentle%20reminder&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimwmMH%3DVKKN3BMawoE-B3xxpyNn%2B_MneyQjXK5x%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 07:25:40 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001155.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001159.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1156">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1156">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1156">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1156">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 24 September 2010 21:53, Dick Gevers <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dvgevers at xs4all.nl</A>> wrote: +><i> On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:21:34 -0400, Marc Paré wrote about Re: +</I>><i> [Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i>I really think it is easier if some people accept the responsibility of +</I>>><i>doing a gentle reminder every now and then to the list. It takes seconds +</I>>><i>to do this. However, it should be sent by someone who has an official +</I>>><i>designation to make impact/clout. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The 'clout' can also come from an 'authorative' distro page. I doubt +</I>><i> Mageia's philosophy will differ much from Mandriva's in this respect: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mailing_lists_Etiquette_(Rules">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mailing_lists_Etiquette_(Rules</A>) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ciao, +</I>><i> =Dick Gevers= +</I> +Yes! that page spills all the goodies on the mailing lists etiquette. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001155.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001159.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1156">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1156">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1156">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1156">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001157.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001157.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fb10398c6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001157.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20An%20idea%20of%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin4HKGyN-pCpv-hviW0BS9M5aT-g7QRJkgZ25fH%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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+</I>><i> who, +</I>><i> when asked "Aimez vous le Bourgogne ? (Do you like Burgundy) +</I>><i> replies "Je préfère le vin" (I prefer wine) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ron. +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Insanity is hereditary: You get it from your kids. +</I>><i> -- Sam Levenson +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +:<i>)) Does the Bordeaux (the wine) reminds somebody the danger? +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/56db4170/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001156.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001168.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1159">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1159">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1159">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1159">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001160.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001160.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..21cf5aaec --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001160.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20KDE%204.5.1&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinw5hV-cbWhyFQXd4WzK_b1F6ifZ34jDie1iOcS%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001158.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001161.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1</H1> + <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20KDE%204.5.1&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinw5hV-cbWhyFQXd4WzK_b1F6ifZ34jDie1iOcS%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1">msdobrescu at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 08:38:23 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001158.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001161.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1160">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1160">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1160">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1160">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>>wrote: + +><i> Marc Paré <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>> +</I>><i> > I was wondering if the KDE dev for Mandriva is here? +</I>><i> Neoclust is mentioned on the list of people on the homepage, so I do think +</I>><i> he's with us. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oliver +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +Where? +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/4e0523d9/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001158.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001161.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1160">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1160">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1160">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1160">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001161.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001161.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..16306746f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001161.html @@ -0,0 +1,65 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20KDE%204.5.1&In-Reply-To=%3C201009250851.18040.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001160.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001164.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20KDE%204.5.1&In-Reply-To=%3C201009250851.18040.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 08:51:17 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001160.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001164.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1161">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1161">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1161">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1161">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE><<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>>wrote: +><i> > Neoclust is mentioned on the list of people on the homepage, so I do +</I>><i> > think he's with us. +</I>><i> Where? +</I>Oh, I thought I saw his name there and I really thougt I saw him on IRC... + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001160.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001164.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1161">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1161">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1161">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1161">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001162.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001162.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f3d3ff2d1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001162.html @@ -0,0 +1,115 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] ny opinion + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ny%20opinion&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinG9UTgXJZ3tKj2Ohwy8kgCAYM4HMchJf8W2tfp%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001168.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001244.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion</H1> + <B>JUAN CARLOS</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ny%20opinion&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinG9UTgXJZ3tKj2Ohwy8kgCAYM4HMchJf8W2tfp%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion">carlos.gilarranz at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 08:47:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001168.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001244.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1162">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1162">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1162">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1162">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>First, my English is not good but I try + +Second, as the icon theme, appearance and others believe it would be better +if it were completely different and a crystal environment. + +Greetings +. + +Juan Carlos +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/2ccb637a/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001168.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001244.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1162">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1162">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1162">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1162">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001163.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001163.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7eb194a01 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001163.html @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DC4p5GLjb5DimducgREvmHBEaFmrAHnzzuMKcP%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001140.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001145.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</H1> + <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DC4p5GLjb5DimducgREvmHBEaFmrAHnzzuMKcP%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">msdobrescu at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 08:28:14 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001140.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001145.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? 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BUt they are elegant. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think that all famous logos have in common that they are simple: an +</I>><i> apple, a red hat, the "evil" window, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> tavillo1980 +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +I like them too, especially the second and, maybe, the first. The third +reminds of Mandriva... +If it's up to me, the styled penguin is the best, it has a special shape, as +a rolling stone, polished by water in time. Like old tribes cult items. 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It would signal a sign of things to +come. Most people would know that it would have been really for Mdv2010.1. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001161.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001185.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1164">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1164">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1164">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1164">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001167.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001167.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cee50babf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001167.html @@ -0,0 +1,131 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] commercial support + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20commercial%20support&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DDaPKhjD6hkXx%2B2NV_t8n-LAE96ZRkv2%3DBzpux%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001249.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001170.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] commercial support</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20commercial%20support&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DDaPKhjD6hkXx%2B2NV_t8n-LAE96ZRkv2%3DBzpux%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] commercial support">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 09:11:05 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001249.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001170.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1167">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1167">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1167">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1167">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/24 herman <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">herman at aeronetworks.ca</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> Here is the problem, which lawyers are concerned about and which many +</I>><i> geeks prefer to ignore: +</I>><i> "Can I distribute the modifications I performed on Mandriva One and +</I>><i> Mandriva Free? +</I>><i> You may not redistribute a modified version of Mandriva products unless +</I>><i> all registered trademarks, brands, names and logos referring to +</I>><i> Mandrivasoft are removed. This includes, for instance, the use of the +</I>><i> word "Mandriva Linux", "Mandriva", the Mandriva Linux and Mandrivasoft +</I>><i> logos. This is required to protect Mandrakesoft's intellectual property +</I>><i> rights and to avoid creating confusion for our clients. However, if you +</I>><i> wish to become a Mandrakesoft distributor, we would gladly welcome you +</I>><i> as a Mandrakesoft Partner and establish a win/win agreement. See our +</I>><i> Partner Page." +</I> +Ok, so all community editions of Mandriva Linux have to be erased from +the servers immediately. +Somebody should tell Mandriva and the communities that these editions +are not legal. +Of course this is not our (Mageia's) problem. + +BTW: I never heard the term "Mandrivasoft" and there is no such entity +as "Mandrakesoft" any more, it is obsolete. If you pasted this +paragraph from the Mandriva site it is obsolete. + +Thx for the information anyway, I'll tell all Mandriva Linux community +mambers to stop distributing those community editions. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001249.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001170.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1167">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1167">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1167">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1167">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001168.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001168.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..75a2a53e1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001168.html @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20On%20the%20icons%2C%20desktop%20themes%20and%20related%20stuff&In-Reply-To=%3C201009250920.57427.franckdoucet%40orange.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001159.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001162.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff</H1> + <B>franck</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20On%20the%20icons%2C%20desktop%20themes%20and%20related%20stuff&In-Reply-To=%3C201009250920.57427.franckdoucet%40orange.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff">franckdoucet at orange.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 09:20:57 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001159.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001162.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1168">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1168">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1168">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1168">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le samedi 25 septembre 2010 08:30:52, Mihai Dobrescu a écrit : + +><i> : +</I>><i> :)) Does the Bordeaux (the wine) reminds somebody the danger? +</I> + less than a computer in refering to Mitch Ratcliffe sentence: + + "A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human +history with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila." + + Franck + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001159.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001162.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1168">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1168">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1168">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1168">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001169.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001169.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ed158dbd7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001169.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [PORTUGUESE] Portugal inhabitants: do you want a separated translation? 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+</I>><i> You will rename anything in your mandriva domain to mageia ? or you will do +</I>><i> a new domain and restart everything by zero? I ask this because i want to +</I>><i> avoid to break the site with a mistake. This probably is a question to the +</I>><i> webmasters/admins +</I> +This decision will have to wait until Mageia web structure is being created. + +At MandrivaUser.de we have talked about that because we will support +Mageia but do not want to + - neglect the Mandriva users who decide to stay with Mandriva Linux + - lose the wealth of knowledge gathered in more than 200K forum posts +and numerous wiki pages, much of it will be useful in Mageia as well. + +At the moment there is a "mageia.de" page which shows a link to +mageia.org and a link to mandrivauser.de. There are several options so +we will wait and decide later. At the moment we have a section in our +Mandrivauser forum where people can discuss Mageia. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001167.html">[Mageia-discuss] commercial support +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001184.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1170">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1170">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1170">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1170">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001171.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001171.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4a2ec002e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001171.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C20100925073524.GB19011%40shikamaru.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001129.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001130.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</H1> + <B>Remy CLOUARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C20100925073524.GB19011%40shikamaru.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">shikamaru at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 09:35:24 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001129.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001130.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1171">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1171">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1171">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1171">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 05:27:21PM -0500, R James wrote: +><i> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Remy CLOUARD <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">shikamaru at mandriva.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > Let me put my 2 cents here :) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > And this is the result : +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464618/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464618/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Black and white version : +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464608/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464608/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > When I first looked at it again, it made me think of this picture : +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://www.asdfing.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/facts_about_leonardo_da_vinci.jpg">http://www.asdfing.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/facts_about_leonardo_da_vinci.jpg</A> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Nice logo Remy! :o) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> One trivia question: Do the darkened hands (but not feet) outside of +</I>><i> the circle represent something? +</I>Hi :-) + +Actually, I first did sharp corners for both the hand and the feet, and +I had the feeling the sharp corners for hands made it look a bit “evil” +so I thought rounded corners would be better. + +I forgot to add the svg source for the logo, because flickr doesn’t seem +to take them. Here it is : + +<A HREF="http://www.shikamaru.fr/attachments/download/127/mageia.svg">http://www.shikamaru.fr/attachments/download/127/mageia.svg</A> + +Thanks for your feedback ! + +Regards, +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 230 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/cca8e8d6/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001129.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001130.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1171">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1171">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1171">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1171">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001172.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001172.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b927321b3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001172.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? 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+</I>><i> +</I>><i> The creation of site mageia-br (<A HREF="http://mageia-br.org/">http://mageia-br.org/</A>) occurred with the +</I>><i> agreement / probation this forum or IRC? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> MacXi +</I>><i> brazilian community of Mandriva users. +</I>><i> +</I>You’re hijacking the logo thread, could you start a new thread in a new +mail please ? + +Regards, +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 230 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/509ca0d0/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001145.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001175.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1172">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1172">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1172">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1172">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001173.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001173.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..386316b0a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001173.html @@ -0,0 +1,178 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20objectives%20and%20foundations&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7k8vm%24bt%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001184.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001176.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20objectives%20and%20foundations&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7k8vm%24bt%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 09:39:34 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001184.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001176.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1173">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1173">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1173">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1173">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-09-24 16:10, Michael Scherer a écrit : +><i> Le vendredi 24 septembre 2010 à 12:42 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : +</I>>>><i> It took something like 6 months to produce the page you gave. And Fedora people have +</I>>>><i> also worked on this since a long time. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Our project as announced less than a week ago, and there is lots of work +</I>>>><i> to do to get basic infrastructure, answer mails and so on. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> So could people please start to consider that we are only human living +</I>>>><i> in a world with 24h a day, and therefor, that everything cannot be yet written, +</I>>>><i> and that we should rush important document like this ? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I think the biggest problem here is that for most of the people, both on +</I>>><i> the ML and GMane, the core group individuals are still a mystery. There +</I>>><i> is no note on any of the pages identifying the initial organisers of the +</I>>><i> Mageia project. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, that was roughly a subset of the list of people in the first +</I>><i> announcement ( before we started to add people ). +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> If this were published and public on the mageia.org page, then there +</I>>><i> would probably be fewer questions. In fact, I think the core group is +</I>>><i> making it more frustrating to themselves by not communicating clearly +</I>>><i> who is behind the organising "right at this moment". This would leave to +</I>>><i> such comments as you have said and heard from other individuals "So +</I>>><i> could people please ...." be patient. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The communication to the community should be clearer from the core +</I>>><i> group. This is a necessity. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, I am here to tirelessly read all mails on the ml and answer to +</I>><i> those I think I can answer, and I think you may have overlooked when I +</I>><i> presented myself on the ml. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IMHO, saying "I am also involved in the +</I>><i> launch of the Mageia project since the start some months ago." was a +</I>><i> clear message. +</I> +Well, that may have been said on the ML before I got on the Gmane and +erased. The same could be said for eveyone else who got on the ML and +would still no know. But no problem. + +><i> +</I>><i> While I would not present or consider myself as "core" based on +</I>><i> egalitarian beliefs, I think that for most people, I am considered like +</I>><i> it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So except answers to questions that are not decided yet, what do you +</I>><i> expect ? +</I> +I guess we are all trying to fill out the groups call to help out as you +had first laid out on the mageia.org page. But I guess if you now seem +to have changed your expectations of the community and no longer need as +much help, then, no problem. It is not "what do you expect" that we were +trying to help out with, but the group's expectation. No problem with +this again. I can wait longer and wait till you decide you need help then. + +><i> +</I>>><i> There should also be a regular representative who reports back to the +</I>>><i> community. I think Anne is well known and respected and would be the +</I>>><i> most logical choice for this. AND someone to replace Anne when she is +</I>>><i> not able to do this after her working day. You need 24hrs a day +</I>>><i> representation on the ML and GMane. I did notice that once the Europeans +</I>>><i> are off and (obviously) at sleep, North Americans are on. You need to +</I>>><i> find a way to service your community 24hrs/day. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think people are perfectly able to wait a few hours before getting a +</I>><i> response from a community effort, don't you ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Shall I remind the voluntary part of the engagement of most people on +</I>><i> the list ? +</I> +We are all volunteering also. But then, no problem. + +Marc + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001184.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001176.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1173">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1173">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1173">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1173">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001174.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001174.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c46d9f6fa --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001174.html @@ -0,0 +1,108 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20who%20knows%20about%20site%20mageia-br%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DA7EA.6040400%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001285.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001147.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20who%20knows%20about%20site%20mageia-br%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DA7EA.6040400%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 09:42:34 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001285.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001147.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's slogan in greek +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1174">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1174">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1174">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1174">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 25/09/2010 04:48, André Machado a écrit : +><i> --- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A> escreveu: +</I>><i> From: "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>> +</I>><i> To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> Subject: [Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</I>><i> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:40:46 -0300 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Olá, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> who knows about site megeia-br? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The creation of site mageia-br (<A HREF="http://mageia-br.org/">http://mageia-br.org/</A>) occurred with +</I>><i> the agreement / probation this forum or IRC? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> MacXi +</I>><i> +</I>><i> brazilian community of Mandriva users. +</I>><i> +</I>---- +><i> According to what I could ascertain, mageia-br.org was created on Sep 22th and belongs to Ricardo Lucas da Silva. Full owner's information is available at <A HREF="http://who.is/whois/mageia-br.org/">http://who.is/whois/mageia-br.org/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Another site, with a Mageia forum (!) what home page is pointing to mageia.org/pt-br is www.mageia.com.br, what belongs to Alfredo Gomes da Silva Júnior +</I>><i> . +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Who is has contact informations (but .br domains need be viewed at registro.br, what can be difficult to non-portuguese speakers). These infos have Phone and mail address. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Hem... running under Microsoft IIS + +And mail contact : Mailing lists link replaced by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">project at mageia-br.org</A> +<mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">project at mageia-br.org</A>> Este endereço de e-mail está protegido +contra spambots. 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I like the fact that the actual logo is independent of +</I>><i> the "Mageia" word. You could then easily use the logo alone where +</I>><i> the situation presents itself. Nice logo to use for branding +</I>><i> purposes. I imagine you could then adapt it to a defined colour +</I>><i> scheme if there is on picked for the logo/website? Maybe, you could +</I>><i> work out some examples of coloured versions to show how this would +</I>><i> look? +</I>Ok I’ve uploaded some other versions of the logo : + +Bordeaux coloured (to please wobo :p) : + +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5022564370/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5022564370/</A> + +Dark green colour : +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021957305/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021957305/</A> + +Turquoise : +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021957391/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021957391/</A> + +Purple : +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021957359/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021957359/</A> + +Gold : +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5022564414/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5022564414/</A> + +I had to put this one on a dark background, because the contrast wasn’t +good on a light background. + +If you would like to test it with other colours, here is the svg +source: + +<A HREF="http://www.shikamaru.fr/attachments/download/127/mageia.svg">http://www.shikamaru.fr/attachments/download/127/mageia.svg</A> +><i> +</I>><i> Nice. +</I>><i> +</I>Thanks a lot for the feedback ! + +><i> Marc +</I> +Regards, +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 230 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/62c13384/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001172.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001139.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1175">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1175">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1175">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1175">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001176.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001176.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c81b35cb0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001176.html @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20objectives%20and%20foundations&In-Reply-To=%3C201009250958.41355.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001173.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001181.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20objectives%20and%20foundations&In-Reply-To=%3C201009250958.41355.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 09:58:40 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001173.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001181.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1176">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1176">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1176">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1176">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Marc Paré <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>> +><i> Le 2010-09-24 16:10, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > So except answers to questions that are not decided yet, what do you +</I>><i> > expect ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I guess we are all trying to fill out the groups call to help out as you +</I>><i> had first laid out on the mageia.org page. But I guess if you now seem +</I>><i> to have changed your expectations of the community and no longer need as +</I>><i> much help, then, no problem. It is not "what do you expect" that we were +</I>><i> trying to help out with, but the group's expectation. No problem with +</I>><i> this again. I can wait longer and wait till you decide you need help then. +</I>Marc, you are very active here but please consider, what many people have said +on this list over and over again. +There have to be done many things in the background, legal as well as +technical. This takes some time and we should all let the founder group do +there work, so that it is done right, not hasty. + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001173.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001181.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1176">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1176">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1176">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1176">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001177.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001177.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..54040a2bd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001177.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Cooker%27s%20Name&In-Reply-To=%3C1285399875.12505.48.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001131.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001132.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Cooker%27s%20Name&In-Reply-To=%3C1285399875.12505.48.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 09:31:15 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001131.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001132.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1177">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1177">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1177">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1177">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le vendredi 24 septembre 2010 à 18:33 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : +><i> > Choosing the name for the development version was only one task from +</I>><i> > a long list, and this one has been very visible, others are still in +</I>><i> > dark. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Beside the joke I did we have a lot of people currently working to +</I>><i> > make the mageia dream a reality. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> It was visible because is was really well-run. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> BTW ... I was serious. Is there anything cooking in the Cauldron yet? +</I> +We are still working on getting the infrastructure setup and installed +( ie, getting server, getting datacenter space, plugging everything, +setting up monitoring, mail, directory etc ), and the buildsystem. + + + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001131.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001132.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1177">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1177">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1177">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1177">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001178.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001178.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2b32bc1fd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001178.html @@ -0,0 +1,144 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailist%20etiquette%20--%20gentle%20reminder&In-Reply-To=%3C1285400602.12505.77.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001194.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001218.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailist%20etiquette%20--%20gentle%20reminder&In-Reply-To=%3C1285400602.12505.77.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 09:43:22 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001194.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001218.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1178">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1178">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1178">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1178">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le vendredi 24 septembre 2010 à 22:25 +0100, Margot a écrit : +><i> On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:19:47 +0200 +</I>><i> Jérôme Martin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia at delaur.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Le vendredi 24 septembre 2010, Marc Paré a écrit : +</I>><i> > > There should be a recurring reminder of the mailist and Gmane +</I>><i> > > list rules. There are many who are new to mailists and have +</I>><i> > > never had the experience in group mailist etiquette. Some +</I>><i> > > people find it annoying/frustrating when people top-post, quote +</I>><i> > > whole passages etc. But we should be happy that there is so +</I>><i> > > much participation. It just means that we need to every now and +</I>><i> > > then send out a gentle reminder of the rules. I think that the +</I>><i> > > "Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder" should be posted every +</I>><i> > > now and then by the Mageia ML maintainer just to add a little +</I>><i> > > formality to the message. +</I>><i> > Thanks to reminder this etiquette. It was quite difficult to +</I>><i> > follow a thread where people top-posted and others quote all the +</I>><i> > mail including mailing list signature. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> Most email clients will automatically delete a correctly formatted +</I>><i> signature block. Unfortunately, this list's signature is not +</I>><i> correctly formatted - it should have two hyphens, followed by a +</I>><i> space, followed by carriage return, followed by the signature +</I>><i> contents - so users have to manually delete it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Compare my personal signature below with the list signature above +</I>><i> to see the formatting problem - perhaps someone with admin powers on +</I>><i> the list setup could correct this? +</I> +I think that's because the ml consider that the sender signature should +be correctly setup. IIRC, the list is running default setting of +mailman. +I guess I could change this, but I will first do some research after +taking my breakfast, because there is maybe a reason to not have the +default "-- " set up. + +Alternatively, I think the footer doesn't help much, so maybe it should +be erased. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001194.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001218.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1178">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1178">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1178">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1178">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001179.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001179.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b6416d9ac --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001179.html @@ -0,0 +1,129 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailist%20etiquette%20--%20gentle%20reminder&In-Reply-To=%3C1285401176.12505.100.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001225.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001180.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailist%20etiquette%20--%20gentle%20reminder&In-Reply-To=%3C1285401176.12505.100.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 09:52:56 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001225.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001180.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1179">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1179">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1179">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1179">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le vendredi 24 septembre 2010 à 14:21 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : + +><i> I really think it is easier if some people accept the responsibility of +</I>><i> doing a gentle reminder every now and then to the list. It takes seconds +</I>><i> to do this. However, it should be sent by someone who has an official +</I>><i> designation to make impact/clout. This is normally done through the +</I>><i> email identifier, in this case, "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">____ at mageia.org</A>". It can be a temporary +</I>><i> assignation till the organization is more structured. I am surprised +</I>><i> that the email address assignation has not been addressed. It is such an +</I>><i> easy thing to set up. +</I> +It is already working, that's just currently overlapping with zarb.org +accounts ( ie, most plf peoples already have such account, so does +frozen-bubble one and others ). + +The issue is not a technical problem, but a organizational one. Ie who +should receive such aliases, and who decide this. + +More ever, the beliefs that only official will have a impact is not +really in line with the empowerment of the community that should fuel +the project IMHO. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001225.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001180.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1179">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1179">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1179">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1179">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001180.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001180.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f63de6038 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001180.html @@ -0,0 +1,134 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20On%20the%20icons%2C%20desktop%20themes%20and%20related%20stuff&In-Reply-To=%3C1285401523.12505.115.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001179.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001183.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20On%20the%20icons%2C%20desktop%20themes%20and%20related%20stuff&In-Reply-To=%3C1285401523.12505.115.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 09:58:43 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001179.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001183.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1180">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1180">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1180">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1180">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le vendredi 24 septembre 2010 à 12:45 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +><i> 2010/9/24 SinnerBOFH <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > On Sep 24, 2010, at 2:31 AM, atilla ontas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > My personal opinon, all except greyish, dark or blueish (we are not +</I>><i> > Mandriva but fork) colors are ok. Also we should use qtcurve as a +</I>><i> > theme engine, so we can use our theme on both gtk and qt application. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I dint se why we should stay away from a blueish theme. +</I>><i> > I like blueish themes. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It's not the question of liking, it is a question of identity. +</I>><i> Everybody knows the green of openSUSE, the blue of Mandriva. If we +</I>><i> start out with a blue identity we will be regarded as still being a +</I>><i> kind of Mandriva Linux. Similarities and same packages in the +</I>><i> technical part of Mageia will obviously be there. But the standard +</I>><i> look should be recognizable different. +</I> +Technically, Fedora is also blue, and I think that +1) no one tell the Fedora is a kind of Mandriva +2) no one tell that Mandriva is a kind of Fedora + +You can still be blue with a different color and feeling. + +( and I do not say that because I like the blue :p ) + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001179.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001183.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1180">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1180">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1180">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1180">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001181.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001181.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a070f87c7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001181.html @@ -0,0 +1,122 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20objectives%20and%20foundations&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinm5ZApCEWKy32%2BKM65ORs%2BVyq_zDtU17sLdS0H%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001176.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001188.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20objectives%20and%20foundations&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinm5ZApCEWKy32%2BKM65ORs%2BVyq_zDtU17sLdS0H%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 10:18:39 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001176.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001188.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1181">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1181">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1181">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1181">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/25 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>>: +><i> Marc, you are very active here but please consider, what many people have said +</I>><i> on this list over and over again. +</I>><i> There have to be done many things in the background, legal as well as +</I>><i> technical. This takes some time and we should all let the founder group do +</I>><i> there work, so that it is done right, not hasty. +</I> ++100 + +><i>From what people like Michael have posted so far we can expect regular +</I>updates of what has been done and what the core team is working on at +the moment, see Anne's blog post as first example. + +I repeat: this has been the first week and I really am as overwhelmed +as the founding group by all this. Let's have some patience - I just +spent more than 1 hour just to read the mails which came in on the +lists during last 12 hours - I don't expect that you want all core +team to spend 2 hours each day to read mails, then some more to answer +mails. + +Let them do their most important work first, there will be structures +then which will make it easier for them and then we can expect more +feedback from them or the various team leaders and whoever. +. +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001176.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001188.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1181">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1181">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1181">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1181">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001182.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001182.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a99bb40f5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001182.html @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20donations&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DB5A8.1040103%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001139.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001141.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations</H1> + <B>DjeZAeL</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20donations&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DB5A8.1040103%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations">djezael at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 10:41:12 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001139.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001141.html">[Mageia-discuss] [PORTUGUESE] Portugal inhabitants: do you want a separated translation? 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:D +</I>><i> +</I>(unfortunately) no +The same bank account can't be attached to two PayPal accounts. +Maybe to prevent money laundering ;) + +-- +DjeZAeL / Elodie + +Utilisatrice de Logiciels Libres et de GNU/Linux +"Le chemin est long mais la voie est Libre" + +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001139.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001141.html">[Mageia-discuss] [PORTUGUESE] Portugal inhabitants: do you want a separated translation? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1182">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1182">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1182">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1182">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001183.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001183.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4e40b5b08 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001183.html @@ -0,0 +1,129 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C201009251104.57155.fri%40tribun.eu%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001180.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001186.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest</H1> + <B>Morgan Leijström</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Artwork%20-%20Mageia%20Logo%20contest&In-Reply-To=%3C201009251104.57155.fri%40tribun.eu%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest">fri at tribun.eu + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 11:04:57 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001180.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001186.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1183">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1183">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1183">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1183">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Den 2010-09-24 23:33:18 skrev Remy CLOUARD: +><i> The first word that come to mind when I think of Mageia is community. +</I>><i> Community evokes other terms for me : friendship, open minds, share, +</I>><i> doing something together, that’s to say terms that evoke exchange +</I>><i> between people. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Luckily enough, the first lettre of Mageia is an M which can be +</I>><i> stretched enough to look like a man. If I think of friendship, I think +</I>><i> of the “emoticon” \o/, meaning you’re happy to see someone and welcome +</I>><i> him. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This started as a base for a logo. I personnally like simple logos think +</I>><i> of the M of McDonalds for instance. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And this is the result : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464618/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464618/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Black and white version : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464608/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54217230@N05/5021464608/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I> +I really like this :) + +Not too simple +Not too complicated +And it say something +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001180.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001186.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1183">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1183">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1183">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1183">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001184.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001184.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a1e3bd35a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001184.html @@ -0,0 +1,125 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20MLO%20will%20take%20part%20in%20the%20Mageia%20porject&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikY8zD4QVMUtyKYUeHr_FARZFQYYD%3DvEtJOVBNu%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001170.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001173.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject</H1> + <B>atilla ontas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20MLO%20will%20take%20part%20in%20the%20Mageia%20porject&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikY8zD4QVMUtyKYUeHr_FARZFQYYD%3DvEtJOVBNu%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject">tarakbumba at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 11:13:24 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001170.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001173.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1184">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1184">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1184">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1184">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/25 Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>>: +><i> 2010/9/24 Dimitrios Glentadakis <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Technically, how do you will proceed to this change? +</I>>><i> You will rename anything in your mandriva domain to mageia ? or you will do +</I>>><i> a new domain and restart everything by zero? I ask this because i want to +</I>>><i> avoid to break the site with a mistake. This probably is a question to the +</I>>><i> webmasters/admins +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This decision will have to wait until Mageia web structure is being created. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> At MandrivaUser.de we have talked about that because we will support +</I>><i> Mageia but do not want to +</I>><i>  - neglect the Mandriva users who decide to stay with Mandriva Linux +</I>><i>  - lose the wealth of knowledge gathered in more than 200K forum posts +</I>><i> and numerous wiki pages, much of it will be useful in Mageia as well. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> At the moment there is a "mageia.de" page which shows a link to +</I>><i> mageia.org and a link to mandrivauser.de. There are several options so +</I>><i> we will wait and decide later. At the moment we have a section in our +</I>><i> Mandrivauser forum where people can discuss Mageia. +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +We have decided adding a new Mageia category in forum and serve our +people from there. This is the way Turkish linux community support +identical distros. 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It would signal a sign of things to +</I>><i> come. Most people would know that it would have been really for Mdv2010.1. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +Isn't it too early to talk about KDE packages. No buildsystem or +servers have been set up yet. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001164.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001187.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1185">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1185">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1185">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1185">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001186.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001186.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..be6bd8521 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001186.html @@ -0,0 +1,132 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20State%20of%20the%20kitchen&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimgC-b-n%3DUKvWPy--DvarjYcPYXQeH3y7uYFZV2%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001183.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001189.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen</H1> + <B>atilla ontas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20State%20of%20the%20kitchen&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimgC-b-n%3DUKvWPy--DvarjYcPYXQeH3y7uYFZV2%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen">tarakbumba at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 11:30:16 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001183.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001189.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site megeia-br? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1186">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1186">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1186">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1186">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/24 Maât <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>>: +><i> Le 24/09/2010 22:11, Maât a écrit : +</I>>><i> Le 24/09/2010 21:41, atilla ontas a écrit : +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I have seen that Turkish donations page is still in english.  Is there +</I>>>><i> a problem my attached translation? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Hi atilla, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I'm working on Turkish just now... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> My problem is that you are many and quick to translate... and that i'm +</I>>><i> just one :) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Sorry for the delay... just wait a few moments and that will be online +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Thanks for your work ! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Maât +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Turkish page ins on line, please check if everything is okay. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maât +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +Thank you. I know you're in a rush and overload. 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It would signal a sign of things to +</I>><i> > come. Most people would know that it would have been really for +</I>><i> > Mdv2010.1. +</I>><i> Isn't it too early to talk about KDE packages. No buildsystem or +</I>><i> servers have been set up yet. +</I> +I think so, too. And it was said a number of times. Mageia is not created to +work against Mandriva. So why should we try to highjack packages? What do we +win by this? I think we would only loose some credibility in the international +OpenSource community. + +Oliver +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001185.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001190.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1187">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1187">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1187">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1187">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001188.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001188.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bcd4cb637 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001188.html @@ -0,0 +1,114 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20objectives%20and%20foundations&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DCB3C.2020701%40unige.ch%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001181.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001194.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations</H1> + <B>Juergen Harms</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20objectives%20and%20foundations&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DCB3C.2020701%40unige.ch%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 12:13:16 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001181.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001194.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1188">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1188">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1188">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1188">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I agree with those who say: give them time. I understand that the +founding group works full steam on creating a documented concept that +can be shown to the community, and that will serve as a base to set up +an organisation. + +I guess that the amount of time needed for formulating the concept, +building consensus (and first within the founding group) will be a +surprise to those who do this work (I have done this kind of exercise 2 +times in my life: Switch and Dante). If this guess is right, it might be +a good idea if the founding group finds a good moment to take a snapshot +and submit it as an interim document to discussion in this list. There +will and must be a discussion, better have it in an organised way and +soon - on the base of a document. + +Until such a snapshot (or the concept itself) is available, the +discussion in this list is valuable to feed input and ideas into the +work of the founding group - posts that are guesses on what might be the +state of mind the founding group risk to drown the constructive +contributions in a background of noise. I know, it is not noise, it +expresses committment and preoccupation - but its effect comes to be noise. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001181.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001194.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1188">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1188">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1188">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1188">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001189.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001189.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c033b6b11 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001189.html @@ -0,0 +1,162 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] who knows about site megeia-br? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20who%20knows%20about%20site%20megeia-br%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009250749.35222.terraagua%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001186.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001198.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site megeia-br?</H1> + <B>terraagua at gmail.com</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20who%20knows%20about%20site%20megeia-br%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009250749.35222.terraagua%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site megeia-br?">terraagua at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 12:49:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001186.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001198.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1189">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1189">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1189">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1189">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Ok + + +Em Sáb 25 Set 2010, às 04:36:28, Remy CLOUARD escreveu: +><i> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:40:46PM -0300, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A> wrote: +</I>><i> > Olá, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > who knows about site megeia-br? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > The creation of site mageia-br (<A HREF="http://mageia-br.org/">http://mageia-br.org/</A>) occurred with the +</I>><i> > agreement / probation this forum or IRC? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > MacXi +</I>><i> > brazilian community of Mandriva users. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You’re hijacking the logo thread, could you start a new thread in a new +</I>><i> mail please ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, +</I>><i> +</I> +**************** + +Em Sáb 25 Set 2010, às 04:42:34, Maât escreveu: +><i> Le 25/09/2010 04:48, André Machado a écrit : +</I>><i> > --- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A> escreveu: +</I>><i> > From: "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>> +</I>><i> > To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> > Subject: [Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</I>><i> > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:40:46 -0300 +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Olá, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > who knows about site megeia-br? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > The creation of site mageia-br (<A HREF="http://mageia-br.org/">http://mageia-br.org/</A>) occurred with +</I>><i> > the agreement / probation this forum or IRC? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > MacXi +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > brazilian community of Mandriva users. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ---- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > According to what I could ascertain, mageia-br.org was created on Sep +</I>><i> > 22th and belongs to Ricardo Lucas da Silva. Full owner's information is +</I>><i> > available at <A HREF="http://who.is/whois/mageia-br.org/">http://who.is/whois/mageia-br.org/</A> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Another site, with a Mageia forum (!) what home page is pointing to +</I>><i> > mageia.org/pt-br is www.mageia.com.br, what belongs to Alfredo Gomes da +</I>><i> > Silva Júnior . +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Who is has contact informations (but .br domains need be viewed at +</I>><i> > registro.br, what can be difficult to non-portuguese speakers). These +</I>><i> > infos have Phone and mail address. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hem... running under Microsoft IIS +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And mail contact : Mailing lists link replaced by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">project at mageia-br.org</A> +</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">project at mageia-br.org</A>> Este endereço de e-mail está protegido +</I>><i> contra spambots. 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It would signal a sign of things to +</I>><i> > > come. Most people would know that it would have been really for +</I>><i> > > Mdv2010.1. +</I>><i> > Isn't it too early to talk about KDE packages. No buildsystem or +</I>><i> > servers have been set up yet. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think so, too. And it was said a number of times. Mageia is not created +</I>><i> to +</I>><i> work against Mandriva. So why should we try to highjack packages? What do +</I>><i> we +</I>><i> win by this? I think we would only loose some credibility in the +</I>><i> international +</I>><i> OpenSource community. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oliver +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +OMG! +As user I wouldn't think you want to kill/destroy/blow up/whatever evil you +may imagine to do to Mandriva. +You just try to get the best for Mageia's users. Although the cutting edge +is not he best. I wish to have the newest possible (read stable) version +built in my distro. +Let's not be negative and hostile in thinking. +Yes, it is possible if Mageia is better than Mandriva to harm Mandriva... +Will you ever be one step back just not to harm it? +Actually, if Mageia will contribute to some important component as KDE is, +this will help all the distros around, including Mandriva. I'm sure they +will upgrade some component due to their plan, so it is not anybody's fault +if they decide to remain behind (to a certain version). +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/ca3f9e78/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001187.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001192.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1190">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1190">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1190">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1190">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001191.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001191.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..44b30784b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001191.html @@ -0,0 +1,193 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1285406029.12505.259.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001152.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001196.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1285406029.12505.259.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 11:13:49 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001152.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001196.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1191">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1191">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1191">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1191">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le samedi 25 septembre 2010 à 07:57 +0300, Ahmad Samir a écrit : +><i> On 24 September 2010 14:58, Juergen Harms <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > Picking up from where Mageia forked off, many things activities look like +</I>><i> > continuity from Mandriva Linux. But forking is also a challenge to find not +</I>><i> > too hard to implement improvements - such as "bugzilla monitoring". +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I think I am not the only one who frequently felt frustrated submitting yet +</I>><i> > another bug, knowing that it had more 50% of chance to disappear the +</I>><i> > "oubliettes". I think there is an objective question: if bugs are not +</I>><i> > followed up, that should not just happen by accident - there should be an +</I>><i> > explicit and justified decision. There is also a subjective question: a user +</I>><i> > who went through the pains to write a good bug report should get a feedback +</I>><i> > with a followup, even if there are no "comments" in the bugzilla data base. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, let me put it this way, a bug report will go unfixed in the +</I>><i> following cases: +</I>><i> - Triage work ends when the bug report is assigned to the maintainer; +</I>><i> if the bug has no maintainer then the chances that it'll get fixed are +</I>><i> a bit lower (some packages have no maintainer but are used by a lot of +</I>><i> users so it gets fixed any way) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - The package has a maintainer but he's overworked and has a huge +</I>><i> backlog, unfortunately that happens to everyone, in this case posting +</I>><i> a new comment in the report should bring it back up in his list; +</I>><i> pinging a bug report is the reporter's responsibility (triage team is +</I>><i> always understaffed so to speak, too many bug reports, too few people +</I>><i> to triage them all); so if after say a week of reporting a bug you get +</I>><i> no response from the maintainer feel free to ask in the report. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It's always nice to acknowledge a bug report but unfortunately that +</I>><i> doesn't always happen... you have to understand that a lot of bug +</I>><i> reports go in per day (it also seasonal, i.e. towards the end of the +</I>><i> development cycle the amount of bug reports increases considerably). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Another point is, there isn't a bugzilla where some bug reports don't +</I>><i> go forgotten, again ideally this shouldn't happen, but there's ideal +</I>><i> and there's what really happens :/ +</I> +Technically, we have a ratio of X testers per Y developers ( by +developers, i mean people who are able to fix a bug, and by testers, i +mean people who can and will report a bug, ie, developers count as +testers as long as they use the software ). + +X is always greater that Y, cause every developer is also likely to use +the software he write, at least on free software projects. +So, for a single man project without any other users ( like a small +shell script ), the ratio is 1 per 1. So the developer is able to take +care of all bug reported by himself. + +On a distribution linux project ( let's take Fedora because I have the +number <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics</A> ), the ratio is : + +- around 20 millions of users ( while the number can vary, i doubt there +is a 50% delta in the number ), let's imagine there is 1 million of +users, or the contrary 50 millions. + +- 1075 packagers in their account system. + +Which make a ratio between 1/1000 ( worst case in term of users ) or +1/50000 ( best case in term of users ). + +Now, let's imagine that all of the 1000 packages are full time. Ie, work +8h per day 5 day a week on the project. This make 2800h ( which is more +than the 1680 hours we have in france, without counting holidays ). + +This basically mean that each users can have a exclusive slot of between +3 minutes to 3h of a developer time per year. This is not much, since +debugging can be tricky. Now, you add the fact that +1) developers cannot do only bugfixing, sometimes, you need to do new +packages, or write new code. +2) developers have others occupations ( like going in holidays, writing +reports, discussing on ml, meetings ) +3) most developers are not full time on their project. + +Theses 3 points likely dramatically reduce the time that can be devoted +to bug fixing and bugzilla. + +So how can this be improved. + +We can either reduce X ( ie number of users ), or increase Y ( number of +developers ). We can also try to improve the efficiency of developers. + +Reducing X, ie less users/testers, is not really a good option. + +Increasing Y, or developers efficiency requires almost the same step : +move people from the users/testers group to the developers group. + +And first step is that people should try to fix their own bug as much as +possible. This way, they learn to do bug fixing, the process scale ( ie, +we will be nearer on a proper ratio of 1 to 1 if everybody fix his own +bugs first ). + +If we want to increase number of developers, the best way is to have +users who care about the software ( since they report bugs ) to be able +to fix bugs, ie become developers, or at least helping as much as +possible ( ie, giving very precise step, giving patches, triaging others +bugs so developpers do not have to do it, etc ). This way, there is more +time devoted for each problem, and more knowledge for all, and more +empowerment. + +Now, that's just a goal, and while I doubt that everybody has the time +or the envy of becoming developers ( since others areas are equally +important, imho, and that mean others area also outside of the +project ), I think this must be clear that it is a question of community +sustainability. We know we cannot attain the 1 per 1 ratio, but we must +strive for it. + +More developers mean better software, better software mean more users, +more users means more work for developers. So we need to find a way to +increase developers numbers at the same time that users number grows. + +In commercial world, that's easy. More users equal more money, which +mean more developers paid ( that's a rough simplification, but that's +good enough ). + + +In the community world, this is not as straight, unfortunately, because +more users do not mean more developers ( not automatically ). And while +we try to do our best, I am sure there is possibility of improvement. + +But before improving, we first need to start :) + +So to conclude, as arrogant and elitist it will sound, the best way for +everybody to have a bug fixed is to fix it yourself. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001152.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001196.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1191">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1191">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1191">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1191">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001192.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001192.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..70f28bb0e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001192.html @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20KDE%204.5.1&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7kjsd%244qo%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001190.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001195.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20KDE%204.5.1&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7kjsd%244qo%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 12:45:33 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001190.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001195.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1192">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1192">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1192">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1192">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-09-25 06:35, Mihai Dobrescu a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Oliver Burger +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A> +</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> atilla ontas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A> +</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>>> +</I>><i> > 2010/9/25 Marc Paré <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A> +</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>>>: +</I>><i> > > Oh well, I thought it would be kind of neat/weird if he had +</I>><i> packages +</I>><i> > > already/almost complete to upgrade Mdv2010.1 to KDE4.5.1, that +</I>><i> he could +</I>><i> > > release them as a Mageia KDE 4.5.1. It would signal a sign of +</I>><i> things to +</I>><i> > > come. Most people would know that it would have been really for +</I>><i> > > Mdv2010.1. +</I>><i> > Isn't it too early to talk about KDE packages. No buildsystem or +</I>><i> > servers have been set up yet. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think so, too. And it was said a number of times. Mageia is not +</I>><i> created to +</I>><i> work against Mandriva. So why should we try to highjack packages? +</I>><i> What do we +</I>><i> win by this? I think we would only loose some credibility in the +</I>><i> international +</I>><i> OpenSource community. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oliver +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> OMG! +</I>><i> As user I wouldn't think you want to kill/destroy/blow up/whatever evil +</I>><i> you may imagine to do to Mandriva. +</I>><i> You just try to get the best for Mageia's users. Although the cutting +</I>><i> edge is not he best. I wish to have the newest possible (read stable) +</I>><i> version built in my distro. +</I>><i> Let's not be negative and hostile in thinking. +</I>><i> Yes, it is possible if Mageia is better than Mandriva to harm +</I>><i> Mandriva... Will you ever be one step back just not to harm it? +</I>><i> Actually, if Mageia will contribute to some important component as KDE +</I>><i> is, this will help all the distros around, including Mandriva. I'm sure +</I>><i> they will upgrade some component due to their plan, so it is not +</I>><i> anybody's fault if they decide to remain behind (to a certain version). +</I>><i> +</I>Yes, my apologies to the list. 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What we have now is a +flooding, what we will have to establish is an irrigation if I may use +the agroculturial picture. +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001188.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001178.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1193">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1193">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1193">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1193">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001194.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001194.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7866c181b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001194.html @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20objectives%20and%20foundations&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim4%3DHuof6mM%2BcG9N4US6ZaAJMYAmt7xOiiMyRDk%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001188.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001178.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%27s%20objectives%20and%20foundations&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim4%3DHuof6mM%2BcG9N4US6ZaAJMYAmt7xOiiMyRDk%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 13:04:12 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001188.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001178.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1194">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1194">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1194">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1194">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/25 Juergen Harms <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>>: +><i> I know, it is not noise, it expresses committment and +</I>><i> preoccupation - but its effect comes to be noise. +</I>><i> +</I> +This is the essence of all these discussions about logos, colors and +some more until there are professional guidelines to "channalize" the +eagerness of the crowd into productive channels. What we have now is a +flooding, what we will have to establish is an irrigation if I may use +the agroculturial picture. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001188.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001178.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1194">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1194">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1194">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1194">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001195.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001195.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..10736d37b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001195.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20KDE%204.5.1&In-Reply-To=%3C201009251321.30454.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001192.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001200.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20KDE%204.5.1&In-Reply-To=%3C201009251321.30454.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 13:21:30 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001192.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001200.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1195">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1195">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1195">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1195">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Mihai Dobrescu <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">msdobrescu at gmail.com</A>> +><i> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Oliver Burger +</I>><i> > I think so, too. And it was said a number of times. Mageia is not created +</I>><i> > to work against Mandriva. So why should we try to highjack packages? +</I>><i> Yes, it is possible if Mageia is better than Mandriva to harm Mandriva... +</I>><i> Will you ever be one step back just not to harm it? +</I> +No, I didn't say that. I didn't say anything about staying one (or any) steps +behind Mandriva. I was just against highjacking something. If there are +packages for Mandriva let them use them. +There won't be a first release of Mageia for quite some time, I think. Perhaps +in three/for month, who knows? Sure we should use the newest stable versions +of every software we use, then and sure we can experiment with software not so +stable in the Cauldron, but let's wait till we really have something to work +with! + +Oliver +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001192.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001200.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1195">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1195">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1195">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1195">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001196.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001196.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0f679a6a9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001196.html @@ -0,0 +1,143 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100925111917.GA11529%40shikamaru.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001191.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001197.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Remy CLOUARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100925111917.GA11529%40shikamaru.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">shikamaru at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 13:19:17 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001191.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001197.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1196">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1196">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1196">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1196">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:13:49AM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: +><i> Technically, we have a ratio of X testers per Y developers ( by +</I>><i> developers, i mean people who are able to fix a bug, and by testers, i +</I>><i> mean people who can and will report a bug, ie, developers count as +</I>><i> testers as long as they use the software ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> X is always greater that Y +</I>... +><i> So how can this be improved. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We can either reduce X ( ie number of users ), or increase Y ( number of +</I>><i> developers ). We can also try to improve the efficiency of developers. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Reducing X, ie less users/testers, is not really a good option. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Increasing Y, or developers efficiency requires almost the same step : +</I>><i> move people from the users/testers group to the developers group. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And first step is that people should try to fix their own bug as much as +</I>><i> possible. This way, they learn to do bug fixing, the process scale ( ie, +</I>><i> we will be nearer on a proper ratio of 1 to 1 if everybody fix his own +</I>><i> bugs first ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If we want to increase number of developers, the best way is to have +</I>><i> users who care about the software ( since they report bugs ) to be able +</I>><i> to fix bugs, ie become developers, or at least helping as much as +</I>><i> possible ( ie, giving very precise step, giving patches, triaging others +</I>><i> bugs so developpers do not have to do it, etc ). This way, there is more +</I>><i> time devoted for each problem, and more knowledge for all, and more +</I>><i> empowerment. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now, that's just a goal, and while I doubt that everybody has the time +</I>><i> or the envy of becoming developers ( since others areas are equally +</I>><i> important, imho, and that mean others area also outside of the +</I>><i> project ), I think this must be clear that it is a question of community +</I>><i> sustainability. We know we cannot attain the 1 per 1 ratio, but we must +</I>><i> strive for it. +</I>><i> +</I>... +><i> +</I>><i> In the community world, this is not as straight, unfortunately, because +</I>><i> more users do not mean more developers ( not automatically ). And while +</I>><i> we try to do our best, I am sure there is possibility of improvement. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But before improving, we first need to start :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So to conclude, as arrogant and elitist it will sound, the best way for +</I>><i> everybody to have a bug fixed is to fix it yourself. +</I>I would like to moderate this a bit. As far as I can see on +<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging</A> there are many +volunteers to learn how to do that, approximately 12-15 people. + +At the moment there are 3 people who would like to mentor these +packagers, that means that for the beginning we could form half of the +volunteers, and forming takes quite some time. + +If we want to increase Y, we also need to help in that area, I see some +people from blogdrake do that as we do as well as Stéphane and Guillaume +help for the AUFML. It would be good to have these names in the +mentoring team so that we have a clear view of who is able to help Y +increase. + +Though I admit that does not prevent one to try to fix his bug first, +but I would like to take this xkcd as an illustration : +<A HREF="http://xkcd.com/763/">http://xkcd.com/763/</A> + +Forming people is IMHO the best way to increase Y :-) + +Regards, +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 230 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/6b21e969/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001191.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001197.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1196">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1196">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1196">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1196">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001197.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001197.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e03c652ff --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001197.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinC3wJ9C7kApAy%2BRHpY81V9b7Ga_KC-ZfuC_4R4%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001196.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001220.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinC3wJ9C7kApAy%2BRHpY81V9b7Ga_KC-ZfuC_4R4%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 13:19:28 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001196.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001220.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1197">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1197">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1197">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1197">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/25 Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> So to conclude, as arrogant and elitist it will sound, the best way for +</I>><i> everybody to have a bug fixed is to fix it yourself. +</I> +This is neither arrogant nor elitist, it is logical thinking. But at +the same time it is unrealistic, as a lot of logical thinking is. :( + +Only a small percentage of users is able to write a good bug report, +much less users would be able to squash the simplest of bugs (like +fixing a broken dependency in a package, broken by a typo of the +packager or similar). As we have already said here we first need +people who help other people writing bug reports - this may be +possible for a certain percentage of users, for others it may not +because they may not care. + +What you are talking about is the user who is already committed to be +involved, the community which is discussing here and elsewhere. But +the majority of users, even in a free non-commercial environment, is +not out for an involvement, they want to use the software. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001196.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001220.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1197">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1197">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1197">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1197">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001198.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001198.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..670c1cd37 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001198.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100925044044.1E6ABF74%40resin13.mta.everyone.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001189.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001219.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>André Machado</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100925044044.1E6ABF74%40resin13.mta.everyone.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">afmachado at dcemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 13:40:44 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001189.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site megeia-br? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001219.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1198">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1198">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1198">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1198">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> +><i> +</I>><i> So to conclude, as arrogant and elitist it will sound, the best way +</I>for +><i> everybody to have a bug fixed is to fix it yourself. +</I> +Neither all users knows programming and packaging software. 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This is just for you to know about it. I +guess this will can help encouraging contributions on the Artwork and +applications side, in some way in the future. + +<A HREF="http://opendesktop.org/groups/?id=407">http://opendesktop.org/groups/?id=407</A> + +Cheers, + +Thomas. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/ce90a652/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001219.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001202.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1199">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1199">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1199">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1199">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001200.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001200.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..36c7d54e0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001200.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20KDE%204.5.1&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimv57Mqu-%3Dvk7Wzb9vEMjQOMXbeWUBR0gNzVTF4%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001195.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001133.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1</H1> + <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20KDE%204.5.1&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimv57Mqu-%3Dvk7Wzb9vEMjQOMXbeWUBR0gNzVTF4%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1">msdobrescu at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 13:56:40 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001195.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001133.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1200">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1200">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1200">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1200">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>>wrote: + +><i> Mihai Dobrescu <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">msdobrescu at gmail.com</A>> +</I>><i> > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Oliver Burger +</I>><i> > > I think so, too. And it was said a number of times. Mageia is not +</I>><i> created +</I>><i> > > to work against Mandriva. So why should we try to highjack packages? +</I>><i> > Yes, it is possible if Mageia is better than Mandriva to harm Mandriva... +</I>><i> > Will you ever be one step back just not to harm it? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> No, I didn't say that. I didn't say anything about staying one (or any) +</I>><i> steps +</I>><i> behind Mandriva. I was just against highjacking something. If there are +</I>><i> packages for Mandriva let them use them. +</I>><i> There won't be a first release of Mageia for quite some time, I think. +</I>><i> Perhaps +</I>><i> in three/for month, who knows? Sure we should use the newest stable +</I>><i> versions +</I>><i> of every software we use, then and sure we can experiment with software not +</I>><i> so +</I>><i> stable in the Cauldron, but let's wait till we really have something to +</I>><i> work +</I>><i> with! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oliver +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +Of course, I was rhetorical. Let's do it! As best as we could! (if I can say +that in English) But organized. Every thing at its time. It is hard to +temper the enthusiasm. It's hard to temper the rush. But it's necessary in +order to do the things right. What means to build KDE for Mandriva/Mageia? I +mean beyond retrieving sources, make and make install? +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/9c2f8009/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001195.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001133.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1200">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1200">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1200">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1200">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001201.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001201.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5131ee031 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001201.html @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DE3D7.5020509%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001250.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001204.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Farfouille</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DE3D7.5020509%40free.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">farfouille64 at free.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 13:58:15 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001250.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001204.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1201">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1201">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1201">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1201">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +Le 25/09/2010 11:13, Michael Scherer a écrit : +[...] +><i> We can also try to improve the efficiency of developers. +</I>[...] +><i> So to conclude, as arrogant and elitist it will sound, the best way for +</I>><i> everybody to have a bug fixed is to fix it yourself. +</I>Hi, + +I do not fully agree with your demonstration, Michael. Mageia targets +also Average Joe which obviously is not and never be a developer. Your +conclusion is more appropriate for distros like fedora, which states +clearly that their target audience is computer-friendly user +(<A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base</A>) + +That said, I believe that improving productivity of developers is part +of the solution. + +How can it be done ? + +Short answer : by using language of higher level than C or C++. + +Which one ? : Java, D, Vala. + +Why these ? because they provide : +- garbage collectors (or some sort of for Vala) which eliminate the 1st +source of bugs in C/C++ (dangling pointers & memory leaks) +- object oriented programming (C++ also) and GNU/Linux is full of +objects (Gobject in Gnome, Kobject in linux driver model, etc) + +If one compare a C/Gobject program with its equivalent in Vala, it is +obvious that it will have fewer bugs in Vala version, just because there +less lines of code hence less places where bugs can hide. + +What is means for Mageia ? Nothing for the moment, there are so many +urgent thinks to do ;) But in the future I would like to help to promote +high level language programming in Mageia community. + +Cheers +Farfouille + + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001250.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001204.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1201">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1201">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1201">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1201">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001202.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001202.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4c68e9442 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001202.html @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100925050310.1E6ABE11%40resin13.mta.everyone.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001199.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001205.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>André Machado</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100925050310.1E6ABE11%40resin13.mta.everyone.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">afmachado at dcemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 14:03:10 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001199.html">[Mageia-discuss] Opendesktop group for Mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001205.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1202">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1202">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1202">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1202">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> +Short answer : by using language of higher level than C or C++. + +Which one ? : Java, D, Vala. + +Java is a bit slow and if Mageia tools is developed under this or another similar language, they will became dependant of this language runtime environment. + +_____________________________________________________________ +Washington DC's Largest FREE Email service. ---> <A HREF="http://www.DCemail.com">http://www.DCemail.com</A> ---> A Washington Online Community Member ---> +<A HREF="http://www.DCpages.com">http://www.DCpages.com</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001199.html">[Mageia-discuss] Opendesktop group for Mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001205.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1202">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1202">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1202">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1202">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001203.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001203.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..387ac702d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001203.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009251510.18238.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001233.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001234.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>P. Christeas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009251510.18238.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">p_christ at hol.gr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 14:10:18 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001233.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001234.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1203">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1203">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1203">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1203">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Saturday 25 September 2010, Michael Scherer wrote: +><i> Technically, we have a ratio of X testers per Y developers ( by +</I>><i> developers, i mean people who are able to fix a bug, and by testers, i +</I>><i> mean people who can and will report a bug, ie, developers count as +</I>><i> testers as long as they use the software ). +</I>><i> +</I> +I agree with the formula. +But there is ways to make it more efficient, get a better quotient from it: + +The triage team is one factor. So, instead of X/Y, you have (X/t)/Y, meaning +that the triage team will filter noise. + +One, that I have long been campaining for, is to multiply Y by R, where R is +the distributions: X/(R * Y) will be much better.. + +And, of course, reduce the time needed for every Y to do their work, +repackage, fix the code, manage patches or generally finish each issue. + +-- +Say NO to spam and viruses. 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Christeas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009251512.40638.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">p_christ at hol.gr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 14:12:40 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001201.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001214.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1204">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1204">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1204">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1204">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Saturday 25 September 2010, Farfouille wrote: +><i> Le 25/09/2010 11:13, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I> +><i> Short answer : by using language of higher level than C or C++. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Which one ? : Java, D, Vala. +</I>><i> +</I> +I think this is not an answer to the conversation. But it is perfect as a +flamebait. +You expect the Mageia installation to depend on Oracle, then? + +-- +Say NO to spam and viruses. 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Mageia +</I>><i> targets also Average Joe which obviously is not and never be a +</I>><i> developer. Your conclusion is more appropriate for distros like +</I>><i> fedora, which states clearly that their target audience is +</I>><i> computer-friendly user (<A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base</A>) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That said, I believe that improving productivity of developers is +</I>><i> part of the solution. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> How can it be done ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Short answer : by using language of higher level than C or C++. +</I>This reasoning has already been taken in account even by distributions +that tend to attract more developper profiles. + +Many end user tools are developped in python for this reason, because +python has the reputation of being easy to learn (though arguably perl +or ruby do their job well in that area too). + +Two well-known examples in these area are networkmanager and +system-config-printer. +><i> What is means for Mageia ? Nothing for the moment, there are so many +</I>><i> urgent thinks to do ;) But in the future I would like to help to +</I>><i> promote high level language programming in Mageia community. +</I>I suggest you to add yourself in this page : +<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging</A> + +add some entries in the language list. + +We need java experts, and vala and D are interesting too :-) +><i> +</I>><i> Cheers +</I>><i> Farfouille +</I>Regards, +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 230 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/ced6f91a/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001214.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001216.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1206">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1206">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1206">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1206">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001207.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001207.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f93d51c3d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001207.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DE9AE.8090301%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001216.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001217.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DE9AE.8090301%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 14:23:10 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001216.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001217.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1207">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1207">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1207">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1207">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Farfouille wrote: +><i> Short answer : by using language of higher level than C or C++. +</I>[...] +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If one compare a C/Gobject program with its equivalent in Vala, it is +</I>><i> obvious that it will have fewer bugs in Vala version, just because +</I>><i> there less lines of code hence less places where bugs can hide. +</I>><i> +</I>Unfortunately: + +1) Software actually developed by the MDV community is a small +percentage of the distro. Most of it is written by upstream developers, +who will use whatever they like. + +2) Of the bugs reported against MDV-developed software, only a small +percentage have to do with crashes that can be traced to the type of +problem you describe. Most are behavioral issues or packaging issues. + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001216.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001217.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1207">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1207">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1207">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1207">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001208.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001208.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..178aaa08d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001208.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DEB98.4020206%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001224.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001210.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Farfouille</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DEB98.4020206%40free.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">farfouille64 at free.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 14:31:20 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001224.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001210.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1208">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1208">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1208">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1208">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +Le 25/09/2010 14:03, André Machado a écrit : +><i> Short answer : by using language of higher level than C or C++. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Which one ? : Java, D, Vala. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Java is a bit slow and if Mageia tools is developed under this or another similar language, they will became dependant of this language runtime environment. +</I> +Please André don't break the thread once again. Use the reply command of +your mailer to reply to messages ar change your mailer, but it become +awkward to see you breaking threads, while you have already been warned +about this. BTW, I answer back on the original thread (at least I try)No +offense (I am not an englidh native speaker). + +Slowness of Java is a myth now a day. I currently work in a big french +company who build an embedded time critical system (missile trajectory +detection and self defense response. Yes it is about weapons.). +Everything runs on GNU/linux in Java. + +Java is definitively not slow to make interactive programs. About the +dependency several points : +- Java is now free and open source, so the dependency is relative +- low level libraries can still be done in C/C++ with well crafted +bindings to high level languages +- there are other candidates, D for instance or Vala for Gobject/Gnome +programming which have no dependencies on runtime if, for some reason +and some projects, runtime dependency is a concern. + +Cheers +Farfouille + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001224.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001210.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1208">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1208">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1208">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1208">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001209.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001209.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..71c360f19 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001209.html @@ -0,0 +1,124 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Chinese%20translation%20for%20Mageia%27s%20page&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DEE5B.9020903%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001205.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001223.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page</H1> + <B>Thomas Lottmann</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Chinese%20translation%20for%20Mageia%27s%20page&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DEE5B.9020903%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page">skiperdrake at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 14:43:07 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001205.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001223.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1209">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1209">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1209">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1209">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> Le 23/09/2010 21:53, Mihai Dobrescu a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:37 PM, peter f miller <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pfmiller at gmail.com</A> +</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pfmiller at gmail.com</A>>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Sep 23, 2010 8:14 AM, "Funda Wang" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fundawang at gmail.com</A> +</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fundawang at gmail.com</A>>> wrote: +</I>><i> > 在 2010年9月23日 下午11:06，Kira <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">elegant.pegasus at gmail.com</A> +</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">elegant.pegasus at gmail.com</A>>> 写道： +</I>><i> >> 在 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:02:18 +0800, Fred James +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fredjame at fredjame.cnc.net</A> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fredjame at fredjame.cnc.net</A>>> 寫道: +</I>><i> >> I had also tried to translate the text. In Chinese there's +</I>><i> really no words +</I>><i> >> match up with the meaning of fork in English. But, I think +</I>><i> using the word +</I>><i> >> branch in Chinese: "分支", would fit in the meaning in the text. +</I>><i> > Exact translation for "branch", but it won't fit the meaning of +</I>><i> fork. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My dictionary gives "分叉" as the translation of fork, do you +</I>><i> think this word is also not quite right? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Don't you have a tool in agriculture that is used to handle the hay? +</I>><i> It is called "Pitchfork", look here: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitchfork.">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitchfork.</A> Could it be an alternative? I +</I>><i> think this is the origin to the verb "fork" somehow. +</I> +Any news about this chinese translation? + +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/de57078e/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001205.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001223.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1209">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1209">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1209">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1209">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001210.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001210.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..46540e653 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001210.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DEFC0.40107%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001208.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001221.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Cassian Braconnnier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DEFC0.40107%40free.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">ptyxs at free.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 14:49:04 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001208.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001221.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1210">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1210">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1210">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1210">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 25/09/2010 14:31, Farfouille a écrit : +><i> ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Le 25/09/2010 14:03, André Machado a écrit : +</I>>><i> Short answer : by using language of higher level than C or C++. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Which one ? : Java, D, Vala. +</I>To say that Java is "higher level" than C++ is absolutely meaningless. +>><i> - low level libraries can still be done in C/C++ with well crafted +</I>>><i> bindings to high level languages +</I>There is no such thing as C/C++. There is C language on the one hand +and C++ language on the other. Two very different languages (even if C++ +includes most of C language). +C++ is on a par with Java as far as "level" is concerned. +Of course you can prefer one over the other : that is a quite different +point. +Cassian Braconnier (Ptyxs) +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/d2b6136f/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001208.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001221.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1210">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1210">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1210">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1210">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001211.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001211.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..297f6bc32 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001211.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DF0B4.900%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001221.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001226.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DF0B4.900%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 14:53:08 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001221.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001226.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1211">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1211">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1211">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1211">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Farfouille wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> Slowness of Java is a myth now a day. +</I>You're correct here. I recently rewrote a C financial analysis program +(extremely CPU-intensive) in Java, and it actually ran much faster. The +resources that Sun IBM, and others poured into JVMs has really paid off. + +However, the size of the Java runtime may be a problem when it comes to +packaging the install... +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001221.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001226.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1211">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1211">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1211">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1211">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001212.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001212.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5e3cdb281 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001212.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100925131301.GN15219%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001226.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001227.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100925131301.GN15219%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 15:13:01 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001226.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001227.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1212">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1212">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1212">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1212">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, 25 Sep 2010, Farfouille wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> That said, I believe that improving productivity of developers is part of +</I>><i> the solution. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> How can it be done ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Short answer : by using language of higher level than C or C++. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Which one ? : Java, D, Vala. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Why these ? because they provide : +</I>><i> - garbage collectors (or some sort of for Vala) which eliminate the 1st +</I>><i> source of bugs in C/C++ (dangling pointers & memory leaks) +</I>><i> - object oriented programming (C++ also) and GNU/Linux is full of objects +</I>><i> (Gobject in Gnome, Kobject in linux driver model, etc) +</I> +I think it is not so simple. There is no magic language that allows to +write programs quickly without any bugs. All languages have different +advantages, are adapted for different tasks, and usually everybody will +disagree on which one is the best ... + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001226.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001227.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1212">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1212">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1212">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1212">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001213.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001213.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6635e048e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001213.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20%5BLOGO%5D&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2010.09.25.13.16.27.564615%40bcs.org.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001223.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001215.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO]</H1> + <B>Maurice Batey</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20%5BLOGO%5D&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2010.09.25.13.16.27.564615%40bcs.org.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO]">maurice at bcs.org.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 15:16:27 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001223.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001215.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1213">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1213">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1213">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1213">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:59:23 +0000, Jean-François BELLANGER wrote: + +><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5010754463/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5010754463/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I> + Love that one! + +-- +/\/\aurice + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001223.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001215.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1213">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1213">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1213">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1213">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001214.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001214.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..51244e30a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001214.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? 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Christeas a écrit : +><i> I think this is not an answer to the conversation. But it is perfect as a +</I>><i> flamebait. +</I>><i> You expect the Mageia installation to depend on Oracle, then +</I>Sorry to contradict you but less monitoring of Bugzilla can be achieve +by less bug reports and better quality and productivity of developpers. + +About Java status, may I suggest you to read carefully what the FSF +says, at last (headnote) about Java : + +<A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.htm">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.htm</A> + +Btw I am not an Oracle fan at all ; I think very seriously to replace +virtualbox with Qemu. + +No flamebait, just discussion. ;) + +Cheers + +Farfouille + + + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001204.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001206.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1214">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1214">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1214">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1214">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001215.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001215.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..918e42ac6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001215.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20%5BLOGO%5D&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DF87D.9050904%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001213.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001232.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO]</H1> + <B>chag</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20%5BLOGO%5D&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DF87D.9050904%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO]">chagam at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 15:26:21 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001213.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001232.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1215">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1215">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1215">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1215">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, + +I like this one too but I think it is to close to this old mandrake logo : +<A HREF="http://www.seeklogo.com/tag.html?q=Linux">http://www.seeklogo.com/tag.html?q=Linux</A> + +Hat, magic wand, star. If Mageia wants to be different from Mandriva, +shouldn't we choose a really different logo ? +And red hat's logo is a hat too... + +Chag + +Le 25/09/2010 15:16, Maurice Batey a écrit : +><i> On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:59:23 +0000, Jean-François BELLANGER wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5010754463/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/42998910@N02/5010754463/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Love that one! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +-- +"Ca ne marche pas" ne veut rien dire. Alors ne dites rien (ou développez !) +"it doesn't work" means nothing. So, say nothing (or say more !) + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001213.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001232.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1215">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1215">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1215">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1215">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001216.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001216.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3e6580222 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001216.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DF9B3.8060608%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001206.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001207.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Farfouille</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DF9B3.8060608%40free.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">farfouille64 at free.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 15:31:31 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001206.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001207.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1216">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1216">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1216">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1216">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +Le 25/09/2010 14:22, Remy CLOUARD a écrit : +[...] +><i> Many end user tools are developped in python for this reason, because +</I>><i> python has the reputation of being easy to learn (though arguably perl +</I>><i> or ruby do their job well in that area too). Two well-known examples +</I>><i> in these area are networkmanager and system-config-printer. +</I>>><i> What is means for Mageia ? Nothing for the moment, there are so many +</I>>><i> urgent thinks to do ;) But in the future I would like to help to +</I>>><i> promote high level language programming in Mageia community. +</I>><i> I suggest you to add yourself in this page : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> add some entries in the language list. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We need java experts, and vala and D are interesting too :-) +</I>><i> [...] +</I>I didn't mention python although I know it is used a lot by Ubuntu dev. +because, despite being a powerful language that I really appreciate, it +is a script language. It means that if there is an error in some part of +the code that is not executed during the test, you can't see it until +someone falls into. This kind of risk is dramatically reduced when using +a compiled language. + +Ok I will add myself in packaging team, but I will really need to be +trained to be useful. + +Cheers +Farfouille +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001206.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001207.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1216">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1216">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1216">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1216">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001217.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001217.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2bbed4efe --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001217.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DFCAA.8070303%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001207.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001224.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Farfouille</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9DFCAA.8070303%40free.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">farfouille64 at free.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 15:44:10 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001207.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001224.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1217">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1217">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1217">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1217">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +Le 25/09/2010 14:23, Frank Griffin a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> Unfortunately: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1) Software actually developed by the MDV community is a small +</I>><i> percentage of the distro. Most of it is written by upstream developers, +</I>><i> who will use whatever they like. +</I>I know that. But I think that providing solid bindings to high level +languages, can be for Mageia a* *differentiation point among other +distros.** +><i> 2) Of the bugs reported against MDV-developed software, only a small +</I>><i> percentage have to do with crashes that can be traced to the type of +</I>><i> problem you describe. Most are behavioral issues or packaging issues. +</I>I agree about packaging issues. But for behavioral issues, I've often +experienced that is easier to code it right at the first place if +it is 20 lines long than if it is 100. 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If this cause too much problem +( like people unable to find the web interface ), I will add them back. + +Now, I just need to find a good message about etiquette to send on first +subscription. 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Most of them uses +</I>><i> a computer only for basic tasks, like listen music, read email and browse the Internet. +</I> +Well, that's doesn't mean that the more scalable way is not what I +propose. Just that my conclusion is not applicable, which I recognized +in my mail. + +The optimum is attained when the ratio is 1 to 1 ( imho ). If not, then +we are not in the optimum. If we aren't, then bugs may not be fixed in +time, that's all. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001198.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001199.html">[Mageia-discuss] Opendesktop group for Mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1219">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1219">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1219">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1219">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001220.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001220.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7573634de --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001220.html @@ -0,0 +1,133 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1285422101.26436.151.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001197.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001250.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1285422101.26436.151.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 15:41:41 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001197.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001250.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1220">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1220">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1220">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1220">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le samedi 25 septembre 2010 à 13:19 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +><i> 2010/9/25 Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>>: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So to conclude, as arrogant and elitist it will sound, the best way for +</I>><i> > everybody to have a bug fixed is to fix it yourself. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is neither arrogant nor elitist, it is logical thinking. But at +</I>><i> the same time it is unrealistic, as a lot of logical thinking is. :( +</I> +I didn't say the goal was attainable, I quite explicitly said the +contrary in fact :) + +><i> Only a small percentage of users is able to write a good bug report, +</I>><i> much less users would be able to squash the simplest of bugs (like +</I>><i> fixing a broken dependency in a package, broken by a typo of the +</I>><i> packager or similar). +</I> +Then we need to grow this number. And for us, the first step to grow it +requires us to think positively ( ie, say that users can, instead of +saying "no, most of them won't, so we should not bother them" ), and +maybe to prioritize about those who do the first step toward +contribution ( now, that should sound elitist ). + + +><i> As we have already said here we first need +</I>><i> people who help other people writing bug reports - this may be +</I>><i> possible for a certain percentage of users, for others it may not +</I>><i> because they may not care. +</I> +Indeed, helping would be a first step. + +It will not solve the problem soon, but we shouldn't be defeatist saying +"people will never be able to learn". Most of them can at least learn +enough to understand. Maybe not how to fix bugs. Maybe not how to report +bugs. But at least, they can learn why it take time, and why their bugs +are not fixed yet. + +A little bit of comprehension can surely do a lot to reduce frustration +as expressed by Juergen Harms. + +And some of them can become indeed contributors. + +I knew Nicolas Lecureil before he had any kind of alias on any kind of +project, and have seen how he learned all its way up from a non tech +related job and studies to become the kde chief we all know. + +He is the living proof this can happen. And he is not the only one in +our community. + +><i> What you are talking about is the user who is already committed to be +</I>><i> involved, the community which is discussing here and elsewhere. But +</I>><i> the majority of users, even in a free non-commercial environment, is +</I>><i> not out for an involvement, they want to use the software. +</I> +If the previous conclusion was not elitist and arrogant enough, this one +should do the trick : Just using free software is likely to not be +sustainable enough in the long term. + +Some people just want to use, that's fine. I also do. + +But I also know that I can because some others people gave their time to +make this happen. I know that not everybody want to give time to make +free software happen, because others things are more important for them +( family, other important causes, job, etc ), and that's fine too. + +But to me, there is difference between not caring by lack of time, and +not caring by ignorance. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001197.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001250.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1220">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1220">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1220">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1220">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001221.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001221.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2186a1ad2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001221.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? 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( help welcome ). +</I> +I propose: + +" Please do read: + +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mailing_lists_Etiquette_(Rules">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mailing_lists_Etiquette_(Rules</A>) + +before you post anything to this list. This may avoid unkind reactions from +others " + + +Ciao, +=Dick Gevers= +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001218.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001225.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1222">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1222">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1222">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1222">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001223.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001223.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7340a98f5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001223.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Chinese%20translation%20for%20Mageia%27s%20page&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTiksnC6PCQBShWWbmfFzymZeeuSUmxDGoCFit-bf%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001209.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001213.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page</H1> + <B>You-Cheng Hsieh</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Chinese%20translation%20for%20Mageia%27s%20page&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTiksnC6PCQBShWWbmfFzymZeeuSUmxDGoCFit-bf%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page">yochenhsieh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 15:57:53 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001209.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001213.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1223">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1223">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1223">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1223">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/25 Thomas Lottmann <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> Any news about this chinese translation? +</I>><i> +</I>Hello, +We have a traditional chinese(zh-TW) translation here: +<A HREF="http://groups.google.com.tw/group/mageia-taiwan/t/25d6ce75f3c72e21">http://groups.google.com.tw/group/mageia-taiwan/t/25d6ce75f3c72e21</A> + +However, I don't write or read simplified chinese (zh-CN), so I cannot +give suggestion for that. + +Regards, + +You-Cheng Hsieh +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001209.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001213.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1223">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1223">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1223">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1223">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001224.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001224.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..faf66f43e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001224.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? 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Most are behavioral issues or packaging issues. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> I agree about packaging issues. But for behavioral issues, I've often +</I>><i> experienced that is easier to code it right at the first place if +</I>><i> it is 20 lines long than if it is 100. Or at least it is easier to +</I>><i> dive into the code and fix it. +</I>><i> +</I>By "behavioral", I don't mean bug as in unintended behavior, but +behavior intended by the developer with which most of the users +disagree, e.g. make this the default rather than that. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/b4d89660/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001217.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001208.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1224">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1224">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1224">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1224">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001225.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001225.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fc9cd30f4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001225.html @@ -0,0 +1,362 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailist%20etiquette%20--%20gentle%20reminder&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9E0242.9090303%40tuxette.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001222.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001179.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder</H1> + <B>Lombard Marianne</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailist%20etiquette%20--%20gentle%20reminder&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9E0242.9090303%40tuxette.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder">marianne at tuxette.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 16:08:02 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001222.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001179.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1225">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1225">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1225">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1225">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 25/09/2010 15:09, Michael Scherer a écrit : +><i> Le samedi 25 septembre 2010 à 09:43 +0200, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Alternatively, I think the footer doesn't help much, so maybe it should +</I>>><i> be erased. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> In a fully dictatorial and autocratic way, I have removed the footer +</I>><i> from the messages on -discuss and -dev. If this cause too much problem +</I>><i> ( like people unable to find the web interface ), I will add them back. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now, I just need to find a good message about etiquette to send on first +</I>><i> subscription. ( help welcome ). +</I>><i> +</I>Here is the message send every to the XFCE mailing-list subscriber : +(sorry, it's quite long) + +Hi! + +Welcome to the Xfce users mailing list FAQ. This e-mail will provide you +with some valuable clues and hints on getting your questions about Xfce +answered, either by hints on where to find the documentation or support +or direct answers to the most common questions. This FAQ message is sent +periodically to the Xfce users mailinglist and to new users. + +You will also find some more general tips and pointers about this +mailinglist and the Xfce project, such as related projects and groups. +Feel free to suggest additional content to this FAQ, by sending it to +the maintainer of this FAQ (listed at the bottom). + + +Index: + +o General mailinglist information +o Which lists are there? (and what are they for?) +o Which Xfce user/project groups exist? +o So what if I need help? +o I've read the websites and I still need help! +o No disclaimers please +o Quoting style? +o What about you guys? +o Most commonly asked questions +o Xfce ML FAQ - maintainer + + + +o General mailinglist information + +The Xfce users mailinglist is hosted at our joint project servers +(foo-projects.org) and uses "mailman" to interface users, subscriptions +and stuff like that. You will need to be subscribed to post to the +mailinglists. Here are some useful links to interface with the mailinglists: + +View all lists: <A HREF="http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo">http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo</A> +Subscribe/Unsubscribe: <A HREF="http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce">http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce</A> +Online Archive: <A HREF="http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce">http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce</A> + + +o Which lists are there? (and what are they for?) + +There are "developer" and "user" lists. The general (this) user mailing +list for Xfce is "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">xfce at xfce.org</A>". This is the typical list to discuss +problems that might not be bugs, questions for help, exchanging tips and +tricks and general news that might interest any Xfce user. + +If you wish to discuss development issues and bugs, please refer to the +development mailing list "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">xfce4-dev at xfce.org</A>". There is an obsolete list +called "xfce-dev" as well but since all of the development is done on +xfce version 4 this list is not used. + +Specific lists also exist for translations (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">xfce-i18n at xfce.org</A>), +announcements from the Xfce team (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">xfce-announce at xfce.org</A>), commits and +autogenerated messages (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">xfce4-commits at xfce.org</A>, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">xfce-bugs at xfce.org</A>). + +Other related projects also sometimes have mailinglists, some of them +are not hosted on foo-projects.org: + +xfc: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">xfc-dev at xfce.org</A> +thunar: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">thunar-dev at xfce.org</A> +xfce goodies: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">goodies-dev at xfce.org</A> + + +o Which Xfce user/project groups exist? + ++ The Xfce team - This is the main Xfce development group that develops +the Xfce Desktop Environment. This group provides the core items of the +Xfce desktop such as session manager, window manager, panel, Xfce +libraries and such. This team also takes care of some Xfce applications +such as Xfmedia, Orage, Xffm, thunar etc. -> <A HREF="http://xfce.org/">http://xfce.org/</A> + ++ The Xfce i18n team - a enthusiastic group of translators from all +over the world is working actively on updating and adding new translations +to the Xfce components. -> <A HREF="http://i18n.xfce.org/">http://i18n.xfce.org/</A> + ++ The Xfce Goodies group - Any 3rd-party Xfce application is considered +an automatic member of the goodies team. The team shares a website at +<A HREF="http://goodies.xfce.org/">http://goodies.xfce.org/</A> and hosts a public SVN repository. Everyone is +welcome to contribute his Xfce application here! + ++ Individual Xfce projects - Many Xfce developers and enthusiasts have +contributed or developed Xfce applications themselves. Some are too +large (xfc -> <A HREF="http://xfc.xfce.org/,">http://xfc.xfce.org/,</A> pyxfce -> <A HREF="http://pyxfce.xfce.org/">http://pyxfce.xfce.org/</A>) +to be a goody and have their own website. You can find all of them on +the Xfce Directory (once it's finished!). -> <A HREF="http://directory.xfce.org/">http://directory.xfce.org/</A> + + +o So what if I need help? + +Getting help might be easier then you think. There's no phone number you +can call for Xfce support but we do have a large group of people that +are willing to help you in other ways. Here's a short list of them: + +Official documentation: <A HREF="http://www.xfce.org/documentation/">http://www.xfce.org/documentation/</A> +User Forum: <A HREF="http://forum.xfce.org/">http://forum.xfce.org/</A> +IRC channel: <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#xfce">irc://irc.freenode.net/#xfce</A> +Wiki: <A HREF="http://wiki.xfce.org/">http://wiki.xfce.org/</A> +Bugreports: <A HREF="http://bugzilla.xfce.org/">http://bugzilla.xfce.org/</A> +List archives: <A HREF="http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce">http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce</A> + +Other FAQ's exist and may prove useful to you: + +<A HREF="http://www.spuriousinterrupt.org/projects/xfce4/index.php#faq">http://www.spuriousinterrupt.org/projects/xfce4/index.php#faq</A> + + +o I've read the websites and I still need help! + +Asking on a mailing list for help is hard: Everyone will read your +question and will criticise you if you submit a question in the wrong +way. Here's some hints to maximize the chances that you get what you +want as quickly as possible: + ++ Do some research first ++ Ask the right people ++ When asking in IRC, ask for pointers to help, not the explanation ++ When asking in mailinglists, format your mail properly ++ Use english ++ Be specific and detailed (but not too much) ++ Re-post the solution so others can learn + +If you follow these rules everyone will be happy to help you! But don't +be afraid to ask though, this mailinglists is exactly for asking questions! + +There's a good in-depth document that explains the etiquette that most +senior ML members follow. You should read this if you become a frequent +ML poster as it explains _why_ we write this way in a really good way: + +<A HREF="http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html">http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html</A> + +Take 15 minutes to read this document, it will help you later and you +will understand much better how to get your question answered. + + +o No disclaimers please + +If you are posting from an email account where a legal disclaimer is +automatically appended to your outgoing messages, please disable it. +If you cannot, please use a different email account, or register for a +free webmail account (GMail, Yahoo, etc.). Note that such a disclaimer +means very little when you post an email to a public mailing list with +public archives. Extraneous disclaimer text in email can make your +message harder to read, and tends to add a lot of useless content when +messages are replied to repeatedly. Remember that you're posting to +a community of hundreds of people, and it's impolite to use up their +time unnecessarily. + + +o Quoting style? + +It's very hard to understand a thread of messages if they become replies +to replies and everyone mixes quoting styles. That's why there is +something called "quoting style", that describes how you should quote +the previous posters contents when you reply to a mailinglist message. + +We prefer that you use "Top quoting". That means that you should put +your reply _below_ (Put the quote on top/above your reply) the original +poster's message. That way the contents are in chronological order and +you can read the entire message thread without figuring out where the +reply belongs. + +Here's a good FAQ on how to quote: + +<A HREF="http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html">http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html</A> + +Basically: + ++ quote at the top ++ prune text from the quote that is irrelevant ++ remove footers and headers (condense) ++ put the reply directly next to (in between) the original text + + +o What about you guys? + +Well we're just a bunch of geeks (we need girls) who like Xfce... Most +of us work on Xfce outside of our normal daily occupation such as real +work or real study (except some lucky people who do both). If you're +interested in getting to know the Xfce team a bit closer (and are okay +with a little abuse, being teased or ignored etc) you're welcome to join +us on our IRC channel (#xfce on the freenode IRC network) or read our +blogs. This might not always be about Xfce but that's life. -> +<A HREF="http://blog.xfce.org/">http://blog.xfce.org/</A> + + +o Most commonly asked questions + +There are a few questions that get asked much more often then any other. +We hope we can provide you with the information here to find out for +yourself how to find more information about them. + ++ How can I start up applications (to a specific desktop | when I lauch +Xfce)? + +Use the session-manager. If you still have problems with some +applications not behaving or remembering their desktop number then you +might consider using "devilspie". You can add links to applications in +~/Desktop/Autostart, but the session-manager also remembers which +applications you had running when you last logged out (and saved your +session!), and will start them again (so don't close your applications +before logging out!) + ++ Can I replace Xfce program X with my favorite program Y? + +Yes, you can. Xfce is developed with the idea of modularity in mind in +all components. This means that you can replace xfwm4 with another +window manager, replace xfdesktop with rox or idesk, or even nautilus. +Most of the times you can just kill the xfce component and start the +application you want to run instead, and use the session manager to +save your session when you exit. + ++ How can I shutdown my computer in Xfce? + +Read +<A HREF="http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-session#xfsm-shutdown">http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-session#xfsm-shutdown</A> + ++ Can I install multiple Xfce versions concurrently? + +You can actually, but it's a nightmare if you install one of them in a +system-default location. The best thing to do is to install every Xfce +version in a non-system location like /opt/xfce/$(XFCE_VERSION) and +adjust your LD_LIBRARY_PATH and PATH to point to the preferred version +at run time. + ++ My desktop or desktop menu has disappeared!? + +It appears that xfdesktop is no longer in control of the desktop. Often +xfdesktop has died, or some other program took over the desktop. Make +sure that xfdesktop is still running first. Nautilus takes over the +desktop by default too. Please start nautilus with the --no-desktop +flag, or use gconf-editor and unset the flag that tells nautilus to +handle the desktop (/apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop). Start +xfdesktop again and you should be OK again. + ++ How do I edit the system application menu? + +The menu is partially autogenerated by xfdesktop. If you want to just +delete or add one or two applications, add the proper .desktop file +(usually in /usr/share/applications). With the xfce4-menueditor, you can +completely customize the menu. + ++ What other (hidden) settings exist? + +A lot. Take a look into the manual for hidden settings for each +component. +<A HREF="http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfwm4#hidden_options">http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfwm4#hidden_options</A> +<A HREF="http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-panel#panel-kiosk">http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-panel#panel-kiosk</A> + ++ Where can I get Xfce packages for XXX? + +The up-to-date list of other packages is found on our website and includes +links to debian, suse, freebsd etc. packages for Xfce. 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This is +something that should be work out. + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001211.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001212.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1226">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1226">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1226">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1226">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001227.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001227.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d3c19feb9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001227.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9E053D.60201%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001212.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001228.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Farfouille</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9E053D.60201%40free.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">farfouille64 at free.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 16:20:45 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001212.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001228.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1227">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1227">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1227">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1227">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +Le 25/09/2010 15:13, nicolas vigier a écrit : + +[...] +><i> I think it is not so simple. There is no magic language that allows to +</I>><i> write programs quickly without any bugs. All languages have different +</I>><i> advantages, are adapted for different tasks, and usually everybody will +</I>><i> disagree on which one is the best ... +</I>Of course there is no magic language and I am not saying that every body +should shift on Java ;). Only that higher the language is (read object +oriented, garbage collected, compiled) more productive are the dev, +clearer can be the overall architecture of applications, easier it is to +dive into the code and at last better can be the quality (I write 'can' +because there is no silver bullet). + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001212.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001228.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1227">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1227">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1227">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1227">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001228.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001228.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5c57504d5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001228.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009251054.16965.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001227.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001233.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009251054.16965.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 16:54:16 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001227.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001233.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1228">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1228">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1228">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1228">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Saturday 25 September 2010, my mailbox was graced by a missive + from Farfouille <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">farfouille64 at free.fr</A>> who wrote: + +><i> If one compare a C/Gobject program with its equivalent in Vala, it is +</I>><i> obvious that it will have fewer bugs in Vala version, just because there +</I>><i> less lines of code hence less places where bugs can hide. +</I> +This argument does not hold water. I used to program in APL, progs were +usually very short (a complex prog had less than a few dozen lines), and could +be full of bugs. + +Cheers, + +Ron. +-- + - Unglücklich das Land, das keine Helden hat !... + - Nein. Unglücklich das Land, das Helden nötig hat. + -- Bertolt Brecht + + -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> -- + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001227.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001233.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1228">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1228">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1228">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1228">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001229.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001229.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f18369ffd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001229.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Licence for the blog entry and the website + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Licence%20for%20the%20blog%20entry%20and%20the%20website&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9E1678.2050300%40tuxette.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001235.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001231.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Licence for the blog entry and the website</H1> + <B>Lombard Marianne</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Licence%20for%20the%20blog%20entry%20and%20the%20website&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9E1678.2050300%40tuxette.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Licence for the blog entry and the website">marianne at tuxette.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 17:34:16 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001235.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001231.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1229">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1229">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1229">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1229">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, + +I just notice that there is no mention of the licence for the blog entry +and the website. I suppose it's just a omission and that the chosen +licence is a free licence (or an open-source, not the place for this +debate). +Can you tell me which one is chosen ? + +Thank you + +Marianne + +-- +Marianne (Jehane) Lombard +Mandriva User - Mageia french translation team +Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a lot of chocolate) - Terry Pratchett + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001235.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001231.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1229">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1229">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1229">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1229">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001230.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001230.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2e3fb7308 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001230.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%201%2C%20Issue%20162&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinGDv%2B8G67Bgu8fRRwQyDT55-1GTi-z1CNYH9fM%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001151.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001237.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162</H1> + <B>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20Digest%2C%20Vol%201%2C%20Issue%20162&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinGDv%2B8G67Bgu8fRRwQyDT55-1GTi-z1CNYH9fM%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 18:11:55 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001151.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001237.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1230">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1230">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1230">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1230">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Don't want to be the "bad guy", but you "M" reminds me to the mIRC logo. + +IMHO that people is trying to use "M" at any cost. I think that you +could let your imagination fly free beyond the "M" and try with more +abstract logos or logos based on the ideas inspired by Mageia (freedom +- community - equality - etc). + +And, as I said in previous e-mails, IMHO that you should keep ti simple: + +<A HREF="http://alecrios.com/img/logos.jpg">http://alecrios.com/img/logos.jpg</A> + +<A HREF="http://174.122.2.131/~cali925/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ge-logo.jpg">http://174.122.2.131/~cali925/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ge-logo.jpg</A> + +<A HREF="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-T6aCNFrpgw/SwDusWgv7jI/AAAAAAAAAIA/-5qYQ5rtzOI/s320/adidaslogo.jpg">http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-T6aCNFrpgw/SwDusWgv7jI/AAAAAAAAAIA/-5qYQ5rtzOI/s320/adidaslogo.jpg</A> + +<A HREF="http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/ij/t4/design-awesome-logo-200X200.jpg">http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/ij/t4/design-awesome-logo-200X200.jpg</A> + +<A HREF="http://www.freelancelogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/one_color_logo_design_9.jpg">http://www.freelancelogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/one_color_logo_design_9.jpg</A> + +<A HREF="http://www.royaltutorial.com/images/famous-logo-tutorials/famlogo19.jpg">http://www.royaltutorial.com/images/famous-logo-tutorials/famlogo19.jpg</A> + +<A HREF="http://content6.flixster.com/question/61/95/88/6195884_std.jpg">http://content6.flixster.com/question/61/95/88/6195884_std.jpg</A> + +Maybe too much examples, but that's what I think a logo should be. +Simple, strong, different. Some logos doesn't include the brand as a +word, but I guess marketing guys will work later to "force" people to +associate the logo with the brand in the same way you do it when you +see the Nike pipe without the word "Nike". + +Cheers! + + +tavillo180 +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001151.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001237.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1230">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1230">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1230">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1230">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001231.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001231.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..42f701b7d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001231.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20list%20created%20for%20i18n&In-Reply-To=%3C1285430203.26436.264.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001229.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001240.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20list%20created%20for%20i18n&In-Reply-To=%3C1285430203.26436.264.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 17:56:43 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001229.html">[Mageia-discuss] Licence for the blog entry and the website +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001240.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1231">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1231">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1231">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1231">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, + +In order to start organizing the project a little, and to reuse the +model used by several others distributions ( mandriva for example ), a +list dedicated to translation and internationalisation have been +created. + +Unsurprisingly, the name is mageia-i18n, and as the others, can be +subscribed online using <A HREF="http://mageia.org/mailman/.">http://mageia.org/mailman/.</A> I have also send a +subscription request to gmane +( <A HREF="http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.i18n">http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.i18n</A> ), and it should appear +soon. + +So while I do not expect it to have a tremendous impact on the traffic +here, I hope this will help everybody to focus on the part of the work +that interest them. + +So if you are interested in translation, I advice you to subscribe on +it. We will try to direct translation request here, but please bear with +us if we forget. We will also use it to contact people for +internationalisation issues or process, like discussing what to use, +etc, etc. + +And I also hope this can be a friendly hub for discussions between +translators and people interested in the subject. + +If you have any questions, please respond on mageia-discuss. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001229.html">[Mageia-discuss] Licence for the blog entry and the website +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001240.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1231">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1231">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1231">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1231">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001232.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001232.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a0184e89d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001232.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20%5BLOGO%5D&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik2xUV7w2%3Dr8z0tUBFpOsX96_2sPTksosm-o7n7%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001215.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001235.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO]</H1> + <B>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20%5BLOGO%5D&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik2xUV7w2%3Dr8z0tUBFpOsX96_2sPTksosm-o7n7%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO]">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 18:28:56 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001215.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001235.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1232">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1232">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1232">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1232">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Same that I said in other thread about logos: + +IMHO that people is trying to use "M" at any cost. I think that you +could let your imagination fly free beyond the "M" and try with more +abstract logos or logos based on the ideas inspired by Mageia (freedom +- community - equality - etc). + +And, as I said in previous e-mails, IMHO that you should keep ti simple: + +<A HREF="http://alecrios.com/img/logos.jpg">http://alecrios.com/img/logos.jpg</A> + +<A HREF="http://174.122.2.131/~cali925/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ge-logo.jpg">http://174.122.2.131/~cali925/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ge-logo.jpg</A> + +<A HREF="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-T6aCNFrpgw/SwDusWgv7jI/AAAAAAAAAIA/-5qYQ5rtzOI/s320/adidaslogo.jpg">http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-T6aCNFrpgw/SwDusWgv7jI/AAAAAAAAAIA/-5qYQ5rtzOI/s320/adidaslogo.jpg</A> + +<A HREF="http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/ij/t4/design-awesome-logo-200X200.jpg">http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/ij/t4/design-awesome-logo-200X200.jpg</A> + +<A HREF="http://www.freelancelogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/one_color_logo_design_9.jpg">http://www.freelancelogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/one_color_logo_design_9.jpg</A> + +<A HREF="http://www.royaltutorial.com/images/famous-logo-tutorials/famlogo19.jpg">http://www.royaltutorial.com/images/famous-logo-tutorials/famlogo19.jpg</A> + +<A HREF="http://content6.flixster.com/question/61/95/88/6195884_std.jpg">http://content6.flixster.com/question/61/95/88/6195884_std.jpg</A> + +Maybe too much examples, but that's what I think a logo should be. +Simple, strong, different. Some logos doesn't include the brand as a +word, but I guess marketing guys will work later to "force" people to +associate the logo with the brand in the same way you do it when you +see the Nike pipe without the word "Nike". + +Cheers! + + +tavillo180 +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001215.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001235.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1232">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1232">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1232">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1232">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001233.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001233.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0619d87e7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001233.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9E23FC.4000307%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001228.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001203.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Farfouille</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9E23FC.4000307%40free.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">farfouille64 at free.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 18:31:56 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001228.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1233">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1233">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1233">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1233">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +Le 25/09/2010 16:54, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit : +><i> On Saturday 25 September 2010, my mailbox was graced by a missive +</I>><i> from Farfouille<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">farfouille64 at free.fr</A>> who wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> If one compare a C/Gobject program with its equivalent in Vala, it is +</I>>><i> obvious that it will have fewer bugs in Vala version, just because there +</I>>><i> less lines of code hence less places where bugs can hide. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This argument does not hold water. I used to program in APL, progs were +</I>><i> usually very short (a complex prog had less than a few dozen lines), and could +</I>><i> be full of bugs. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ron. +</I>Please don't compare APL with the languages aforementioned. +Quote from Wikipedia about APL : +"Because of its condensed nature and non-standard characters, APL has +sometimes been termed a "write-only language +<<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-only_language">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-only_language</A>>", and reading an APL +program can at first feel like decoding Egyptian hieroglyphics +<<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_hieroglyphics">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_hieroglyphics</A>>. Because of the +unusual character set <<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_set">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_set</A>>, many +programmers use special keyboards +<<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_keyboard">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_keyboard</A>> with APL keytops for +authoring APL code." + +My argument is about C/Gobject and Vala not about any languages. Vala +has been developed with the goal of easing Glib programming. That's why +the comparison of program length makes sense. + +Cheers, + +Farfouille. + + +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/c5c7ebac/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001228.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1233">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1233">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1233">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1233">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001234.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001234.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e738596cd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001234.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9E2777.4000706%40unige.ch%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001203.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001153.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Juergen Harms</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4C9E2777.4000706%40unige.ch%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 18:46:47 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001153.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1234">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1234">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1234">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1234">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I like the idea to lean on software authors and this way increase the Y. +But it only works where these authors are somewhere within reach. In +case where the author is somewhere upstream that will be difficult. + +Btw upstream bugs: this is another argument illustrating where the +reporting user cannot do much.Normally, he will not sign up - if he is +an active bugreporter on several - bugzillas. Take the example of KDE +bugzilla: even if the user signs up - he far less chance to make his +word heard than - in this example Nicolas Lecureil. +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001153.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1234">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1234">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1234">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1234">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001235.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001235.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a2ec38d30 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001235.html @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20%5BLOGO%5D&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikxOGBGh9NcVntTUmLKfrA4WV24UmpfeuPLU8zg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001232.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001229.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO]</H1> + <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20%5BLOGO%5D&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikxOGBGh9NcVntTUmLKfrA4WV24UmpfeuPLU8zg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO]">msdobrescu at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 18:51:57 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001232.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001229.html">[Mageia-discuss] Licence for the blog entry and the website +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1235">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1235">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1235">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1235">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli < +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> Same that I said in other thread about logos: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IMHO that people is trying to use "M" at any cost. I think that you +</I>><i> could let your imagination fly free beyond the "M" and try with more +</I>><i> abstract logos or logos based on the ideas inspired by Mageia (freedom +</I>><i> - community - equality - etc). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And, as I said in previous e-mails, IMHO that you should keep ti simple: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://alecrios.com/img/logos.jpg">http://alecrios.com/img/logos.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://174.122.2.131/~cali925/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ge-logo.jpg<http://174.122.2.131/%7Ecali925/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ge-logo.jpg">http://174.122.2.131/~cali925/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ge-logo.jpg<http://174.122.2.131/%7Ecali925/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ge-logo.jpg</A>> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-T6aCNFrpgw/SwDusWgv7jI/AAAAAAAAAIA/-5qYQ5rtzOI/s320/adidaslogo.jpg">http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-T6aCNFrpgw/SwDusWgv7jI/AAAAAAAAAIA/-5qYQ5rtzOI/s320/adidaslogo.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/ij/t4/design-awesome-logo-200X200.jpg">http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/ij/t4/design-awesome-logo-200X200.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.freelancelogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/one_color_logo_design_9.jpg">http://www.freelancelogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/one_color_logo_design_9.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.royaltutorial.com/images/famous-logo-tutorials/famlogo19.jpg">http://www.royaltutorial.com/images/famous-logo-tutorials/famlogo19.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://content6.flixster.com/question/61/95/88/6195884_std.jpg">http://content6.flixster.com/question/61/95/88/6195884_std.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe too much examples, but that's what I think a logo should be. +</I>><i> Simple, strong, different. Some logos doesn't include the brand as a +</I>><i> word, but I guess marketing guys will work later to "force" people to +</I>><i> associate the logo with the brand in the same way you do it when you +</I>><i> see the Nike pipe without the word "Nike". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> tavillo180 +</I>><i> +</I> +I think that "M" managed to express joy and freedom, but it is a bit forced. +All these logos are good examples to follow (except GE, I think it is +hideous IMHO). +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/19aac0e7/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001232.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001229.html">[Mageia-discuss] Licence for the blog entry and the website +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1235">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1235">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1235">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1235">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001236.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001236.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6d921834e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001236.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20%5BLOGO%5D&In-Reply-To=%3C20100925111836.1E767C69%40resin18.mta.everyone.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I think that you +</I>><i> could let your imagination fly free beyond the "M" and try with more +</I>><i> abstract logos or logos based on the ideas inspired by Mageia (freedom +</I>><i> - community - equality - etc). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And, as I said in previous e-mails, IMHO that you should keep ti simple: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://alecrios.com/img/logos.jpg">http://alecrios.com/img/logos.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://174.122.2.131/~cali925/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ge-logo.jpg">http://174.122.2.131/~cali925/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ge-logo.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-T6aCNFrpgw/SwDusWgv7jI/AAAAAAAAAIA/-5qYQ5rtzOI/s320/adidaslogo.jpg">http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-T6aCNFrpgw/SwDusWgv7jI/AAAAAAAAAIA/-5qYQ5rtzOI/s320/adidaslogo.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/ij/t4/design-awesome-logo-200X200.jpg">http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/ij/t4/design-awesome-logo-200X200.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.freelancelogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/one_color_logo_design_9.jpg">http://www.freelancelogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/one_color_logo_design_9.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.royaltutorial.com/images/famous-logo-tutorials/famlogo19.jpg">http://www.royaltutorial.com/images/famous-logo-tutorials/famlogo19.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://content6.flixster.com/question/61/95/88/6195884_std.jpg">http://content6.flixster.com/question/61/95/88/6195884_std.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe too much examples, but that's what I think a logo should be. +</I>><i> Simple, strong, different. Some logos doesn't include the brand as a +</I>><i> word, but I guess marketing guys will work later to "force" people to +</I>><i> associate the logo with the brand in the same way you do it when you +</I>><i> see the Nike pipe without the word "Nike". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> tavillo180 +</I>><i> +</I> + +I have to agree here. I don't like the M you use, but the colors and +the quality are great. + +The logo could be a figure or something, take Firefox, Amsn, Gimp or +audacity as an example +-- +Diego Bello Carreño +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001230.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001150.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1237">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1237">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1237">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1237">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001238.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001238.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5528e8944 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001238.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20%5BLOGO%5D&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DpKJSvz4ovvqeF%2BKfPKw9jAUZHr%3D62jxVdSf%2B_%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001236.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001239.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO]</H1> + <B>Diego Bello</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20%5BLOGO%5D&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DpKJSvz4ovvqeF%2BKfPKw9jAUZHr%3D62jxVdSf%2B_%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO]">dbello at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 20:26:43 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001236.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001239.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1238">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1238">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1238">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1238">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/25 André Machado <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Logo doesn't need have Mageia word or M letter, but need be something that +</I>><i> people look and associate with distro. See Apple logo: there is no Apple +</I>><i> word or A letter, but when we look for that stylized frui, we know that is +</I>><i> talking about Steve Job's company. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +The association comes later, after a long time of seeing the logo in +the products and/or publicity. The same example could be Nike and the +others Gustavo sent. Take the firefox logo, it comes with the +application but we recognize it after weeks of using it ;) + + +-- +Diego Bello Carreño +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001236.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001239.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1238">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1238">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1238">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1238">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001239.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001239.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bc3652f0a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001239.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20%5BLOGO%5D&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7lfi2%2446k%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001238.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001243.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO]</H1> + <B>Adrian Marcinkowski</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20%5BLOGO%5D&In-Reply-To=%3Ci7lfi2%2446k%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO]">amfidiusz at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 20:37:44 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001238.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001243.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1239">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1239">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1239">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1239">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>W dniu 2010-09-25 20:18, André Machado pisze: +><i> Logo doesn't need have Mageia word or M letter, but need be +</I>><i> something that people look and associate with distro. See Apple +</I>><i> logo: there is no Apple word or A letter, but when we look for that +</I>><i> stylized frui, we know that is talking about Steve Job's company. +</I> +I can't agree with you. It's not the logo that makes a product +recognizable but the product itself. And it doesn't matter if it +contains the brand name or first letter in it - if the product is of a +great quality, people will remember both a name and a logo. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001238.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001243.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1239">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1239">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1239">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1239">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001240.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001240.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..153c0faf8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001240.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20list%20created%20for%20i18n&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinnq8EkerZizdfSU03bYztA3FHnv6PHP0bnp8VA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001231.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001242.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n</H1> + <B>Frederic Janssens</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20list%20created%20for%20i18n&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinnq8EkerZizdfSU03bYztA3FHnv6PHP0bnp8VA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n">fjanss at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 20:44:15 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001231.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001242.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1240">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1240">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1240">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1240">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 17:56, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: + +><i> So if you are interested in translation, I advice you to subscribe on +</I>><i> it. We will try to direct translation request here, but please bear with +</I>><i> us if we forget. We will also use it to contact people for +</I>><i> internationalisation issues or process, like discussing what to use, +</I>><i> etc, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And I also hope this can be a friendly hub for discussions between +</I>><i> translators and people interested in the subject. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you have any questions, please respond on mageia-discuss. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Michael Scherer +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Somewhat out of topic, but related : +</I> +I am aware that it is way too early to go into this now, but I mention, in +case anybody is interested, that I have a long term interest in (and have +'high level' plans to make it possible) a simplified variant of automatic +translation. + + +-- + +Frederic +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/2de40a70/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001231.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001242.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1240">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1240">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1240">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1240">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001241.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001241.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..469901c7e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001241.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 176 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%0A%09%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FMageia-discuss_Digest%3D2C_Vol_1%3D2C_Issu%3F%3D%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3Fe_176%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3C20100925185505.24652.qmail%40s700.sureserver.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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We will try to direct translation request here, but please bear with +</I>>><i> us if we forget. We will also use it to contact people for +</I>>><i> internationalisation issues or process, like discussing what to use, +</I>>><i> etc, etc. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> And I also hope this can be a friendly hub for discussions between +</I>>><i> translators and people interested in the subject. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> If you have any questions, please respond on mageia-discuss. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> -- +</I>>><i> Michael Scherer +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Somewhat out of topic, but related : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I am aware that it is way too early to go into this now, but I mention, in +</I>><i> case anybody is interested, that I have a long term interest in (and have +</I>><i> 'high level' plans to make it possible) a simplified variant of automatic +</I>><i> translation. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Frederic +</I>><i> +</I> +There is no way to make true translation by automatic tools. +Translators must do translations string by string. At least they must +review translations. But we are discussing using transifex to ease +translation process. 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See Apple +</I>>><i>    logo: there is no Apple word or A letter, but when we look for that +</I>>><i>    stylized frui, we know that is talking about Steve Job's company. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can't agree with you. It's not the logo that makes a product recognizable +</I>><i> but the product itself. And it doesn't matter if it contains the brand name +</I>><i> or first letter in it - if the product is of a great quality, people will +</I>><i> remember both a name and a logo. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +Mandriva Turkiye admin Emir created some logos for Mageia. You can +look at them on +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/29757814@N02/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/29757814@N02/</A> + +Btw, i like mageia1 logo. Also blue and yellow fit together very well. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001239.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001251.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1243">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1243">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1243">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1243">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001244.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001244.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d5bae1f01 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001244.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] ny opinion + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ny%20opinion&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D2%2B-rxJRNGY8j2jCWyHWXG%2B7%3DS%2Bzz3%2BCxLQZQA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001162.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001247.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion</H1> + <B>Hoyt Duff</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ny%20opinion&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D2%2B-rxJRNGY8j2jCWyHWXG%2B7%3DS%2Bzz3%2BCxLQZQA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion">hoytduff at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 22:05:44 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001162.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001247.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1244">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1244">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1244">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1244">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:47 AM, JUAN CARLOS <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">carlos.gilarranz at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> First, my English is not good but I try +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Second, as the icon theme, appearance and others believe it would be better +</I>><i> if it were completely different and a crystal environment. +</I>><i> +</I> +I agree. The look needs to be completely different. + + +-- +Hoyt +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001162.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001247.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1244">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1244">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1244">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1244">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001245.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001245.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..761fbedaa --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001245.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20An%20idea%20of%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikKWrwyaPn-9b8CaynMA%3DbddvBOik40grzLNp6x%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001157.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001246.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo</H1> + <B>Raphaël Jadot</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20An%20idea%20of%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikKWrwyaPn-9b8CaynMA%3DbddvBOik40grzLNp6x%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo">ashledombos at hodo.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 22:05:53 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001157.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001246.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1245">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1245">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1245">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1245">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/25 Mihai Dobrescu <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">msdobrescu at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Jéjé <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jeje-mageia at sfr.fr</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Hi, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I've got an idea for a logo, but unfortunately not the skills to do it :( +</I>>><i> Maybe the theme could interest someone that got them. +</I>>><i> So I thought to a stylish phoenix : +</I>>><i> - it's a magical bird, so that symbolize well mageia +</I>>><i> - mageia could be called a rebirth +</I>>><i> - the theme of a magical bird is present in a lot of cultures (persian, +</I>>><i> chinese, south-american ...) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Cheers. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Firebird, Thunderbird have it... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +Did you see ignacio's submission +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/11242801@N04/5023404059/in/pool-mageia-art#/photos/11242801@N04/5023404059/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/11242801@N04/5023404059/in/pool-mageia-art#/photos/11242801@N04/5023404059/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +? 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The look needs to be completely different. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Hoyt +</I>><i> +</I> +Me too. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/32652668/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001244.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001249.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1247">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1247">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1247">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1247">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001248.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001248.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b340094c6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001248.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20An%20idea%20of%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinyAcCugsMN5U_2HDCqW3Oxq8pMi1LNyiG7cjoL%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001246.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001144.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo</H1> + <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20An%20idea%20of%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinyAcCugsMN5U_2HDCqW3Oxq8pMi1LNyiG7cjoL%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo">msdobrescu at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 22:14:08 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001246.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001144.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1248">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1248">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1248">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1248">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Mihai Dobrescu <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">msdobrescu at gmail.com</A>>wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> Did you see ignacio's submission +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/11242801@N04/5023404059/in/pool-mageia-art#/photos/11242801@N04/5023404059/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/11242801@N04/5023404059/in/pool-mageia-art#/photos/11242801@N04/5023404059/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I>>><i> ? +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Yes. +</I>><i> +</I>I prefer this: +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/in/pool-mageia-art#/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/in/pool-mageia-art#/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/9f82f203/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001246.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001144.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1248">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1248">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1248">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1248">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001249.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001249.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..441a14b73 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001249.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] ny opinion + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ny%20opinion&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinf7Z7xwORmMDU%2BoA%3DtYCbOpJZ0q-UP2j4fCjeq%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001247.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001167.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion</H1> + <B>isadora</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ny%20opinion&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinf7Z7xwORmMDU%2BoA%3DtYCbOpJZ0q-UP2j4fCjeq%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion">isis2000 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 22:21:02 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001247.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001167.html">[Mageia-discuss] commercial support +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1249">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1249">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1249">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1249">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/25 Mihai Dobrescu <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">msdobrescu at gmail.com</A>> + +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Hoyt Duff <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:47 AM, JUAN CARLOS <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">carlos.gilarranz at gmail.com</A>> +</I>>><i> wrote: +</I>>><i> > First, my English is not good but I try +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Second, as the icon theme, appearance and others believe it would be +</I>>><i> better +</I>>><i> > if it were completely different and a crystal environment. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I agree. The look needs to be completely different. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> -- +</I>>><i> Hoyt +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Me too. +</I>><i> +</I> + + +Agree, especially chrystal clear sounds fresh, like new beginnings. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100925/e91ff0fd/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001247.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001167.html">[Mageia-discuss] commercial support +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1249">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1249">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1249">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1249">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001250.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001250.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9cfae23d6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001250.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikCRdgZKDEcjtSsSEd6OH8VjKxeCPLRp3jicTZw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001220.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001201.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Think%20about%20bugzilla%20monitoring%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikCRdgZKDEcjtSsSEd6OH8VjKxeCPLRp3jicTZw%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring?">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 22:35:54 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001220.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001201.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1250">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1250">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1250">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1250">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/25 Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> It will not solve the problem soon, but we shouldn't be defeatist saying +</I>><i> "people will never be able to learn". Most of them can at least learn +</I>><i> enough to understand. Maybe not how to fix bugs. Maybe not how to report +</I>><i> bugs. But at least, they can learn why it take time, and why their bugs +</I>><i> are not fixed yet. +</I> +Nothing to say agains tthis one. It does not contradict what I wrote. + +><i> But to me, there is difference between not caring by lack of time, and +</I>><i> not caring by ignorance. +</I> +Of course, nobody talked about ignorance, you did not, I did not. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001220.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001201.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1250">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1250">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1250">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1250">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001251.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001251.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..980a7507f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001251.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20%5BLOGO%5D&In-Reply-To=%3CF4ED7318-B972-4E64-A9EA-4FAC63A66DAF%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001243.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001241.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO]</H1> + <B>SinnerBOFH</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia-discuss%20%5BLOGO%5D&In-Reply-To=%3CF4ED7318-B972-4E64-A9EA-4FAC63A66DAF%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO]">sinnerbofh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 23:31:52 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001243.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001241.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 176 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1251">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1251">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1251">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1251">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> +On Sep 25, 2010, at 3:47 PM, atilla ontas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Mandriva Turkiye admin Emir created some logos for Mageia. You can +</I>><i> look at them on +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/29757814@N02/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/29757814@N02/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Btw, i like mageia1 logo. Also blue and yellow fit together very well. +</I> +Hi! + +I like Mageia4 and Mageia1 the most. + +Salut, +Sinner +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001243.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001241.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 176 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1251">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1251">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1251">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1251">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001285.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001285.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0cf213807 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/001285.html @@ -0,0 +1,103 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20who%20knows%20about%20site%20mageia-br%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009250053.43929.verdeterra%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001146.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001174.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?</H1> + <B>verdeterra</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20who%20knows%20about%20site%20mageia-br%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009250053.43929.verdeterra%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?">verdeterra at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Sep 25 05:53:43 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001146.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001174.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1285">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1285">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1285">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1285">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Afmachado, + +I Just want to know if it was discussed here or is a independent project. + + +Em Sex 24 Set 2010, às 23:48:31, André Machado escreveu: +><i> --- <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A> escreveu: +</I>><i> From: "<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">terraagua at gmail.com</A>> +</I>><i> To: Mageia general discussions <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> Subject: [Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</I>><i> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:40:46 -0300 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Olá, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> who knows about site megeia-br? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The creation of site mageia-br (<A HREF="http://mageia-br.org/">http://mageia-br.org/</A>) occurred with +</I>><i> the agreement / probation this forum or IRC? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> MacXi +</I>><i> +</I>><i> brazilian community of Mandriva users. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss +</I>><i> mailing list <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> According to what I could ascertain, mageia-br.org was created on Sep 22th +</I>><i> and belongs to Ricardo Lucas da Silva. Full owner's information is +</I>><i> available at <A HREF="http://who.is/whois/mageia-br.org/">http://who.is/whois/mageia-br.org/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Another site, with a Mageia forum (!) what home page is pointing to +</I>><i> mageia.org/pt-br is www.mageia.com.br, what belongs to Alfredo Gomes da +</I>><i> Silva Júnior . +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Who is has contact informations (but .br domains need be viewed at +</I>><i> registro.br, what can be difficult to non-portuguese speakers). These +</I>><i> infos have Phone and mail address. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _____________________________________________________________ +</I>><i> Washington DC's Largest FREE Email service. ---> <A HREF="http://www.DCemail.com">http://www.DCemail.com</A> +</I>><i> ---> A Washington Online Community Member ---> <A HREF="http://www.DCpages.com">http://www.DCpages.com</A> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001146.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001174.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1285">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1285">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1285">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1285">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dd543b6f8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,652 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 25 September 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>25 September 2010 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Sep 25 00:27:21 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Sep 25 23:31:52 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 121<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001213.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1213"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001237.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1237"> </A> +<I>Diego Bello +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001238.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1238"> </A> +<I>Diego Bello +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001167.html">[Mageia-discuss] commercial support +</A><A NAME="1167"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001170.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A><A NAME="1170"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001181.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1181"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001194.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1194"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001197.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1197"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001250.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1250"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001205.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1205"> </A> +<I>Cassian Braconnnier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001210.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1210"> </A> +<I>Cassian Braconnnier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001158.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1158"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001161.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1161"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001176.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1176"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001187.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1187"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001195.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1195"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001162.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1162"> </A> +<I>JUAN CARLOS +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001171.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1171"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001172.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1172"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001175.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1175"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001196.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1196"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001206.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1206"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1203"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001204.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1204"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001135.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1135"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001182.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1182"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001157.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1157"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001163.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1163"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001159.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A><A NAME="1159"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001160.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1160"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001190.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1190"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001200.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1200"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001235.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1235"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001246.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1246"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001247.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1247"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001248.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1248"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001244.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1244"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001201.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1201"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001208.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1208"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001214.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1214"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001216.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1216"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001217.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1217"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001221.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1221"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001226.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1226"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001227.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1227"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001233.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1233"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001222.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1222"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001140.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1140"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001143.html">[Mageia-discuss] [PORTUGUESE] Portugal inhabitants: do you want a separated translation? +</A><A NAME="1143"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001230.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1230"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001232.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1232"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001147.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's slogan in greek +</A><A NAME="1147"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001207.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1207"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001211.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1211"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001224.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1224"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001188.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1188"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001234.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1234"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001223.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1223"> </A> +<I>You-Cheng Hsieh +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001245.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1245"> </A> +<I>Raphaël Jadot +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001129.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1129"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001240.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A><A NAME="1240"> </A> +<I>Frederic Janssens +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001142.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1142"> </A> +<I>Jéjé +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001183.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1183"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001199.html">[Mageia-discuss] Opendesktop group for Mageia +</A><A NAME="1199"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001209.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1209"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001139.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1139"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001141.html">[Mageia-discuss] [PORTUGUESE] Portugal inhabitants: do you want a separated translation? +</A><A NAME="1141"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001146.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1146"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001198.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1198"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001202.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1202"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001236.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1236"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001239.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1239"> </A> +<I>Adrian Marcinkowski +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001225.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1225"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001229.html">[Mageia-discuss] Licence for the blog entry and the website +</A><A NAME="1229"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001137.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1137"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001169.html">[Mageia-discuss] [PORTUGUESE] Portugal inhabitants: do you want a separated translation? +</A><A NAME="1169"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001174.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1174"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001228.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1228"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001144.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A><A NAME="1144"> </A> +<I>Dwight Paige +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001151.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1151"> </A> +<I>Dwight Paige +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001130.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1130"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001131.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A><A NAME="1131"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001132.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1132"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001133.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1133"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001134.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1134"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001136.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1136"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001138.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1138"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001164.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1164"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001173.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1173"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001192.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1192"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001152.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1152"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001153.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1153"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001154.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1154"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001155.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1155"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001156.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1156"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001177.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A><A NAME="1177"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001178.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1178"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001179.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1179"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001180.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A><A NAME="1180"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001191.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1191"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001218.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1218"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001219.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1219"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001220.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1220"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001231.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A><A NAME="1231"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001149.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1149"> </A> +<I>SinnerBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001251.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1251"> </A> +<I>SinnerBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001148.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1148"> </A> +<I>Luis Fernando Carrillo Vega +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001215.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1215"> </A> +<I>chag +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001168.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A><A NAME="1168"> </A> +<I>franck +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001145.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1145"> </A> +<I>terraagua at gmail.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001150.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1150"> </A> +<I>terraagua at gmail.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001189.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site megeia-br? +</A><A NAME="1189"> </A> +<I>terraagua at gmail.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001249.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1249"> </A> +<I>isadora +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001241.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 176 +</A><A NAME="1241"> </A> +<I>miodragz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001184.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A><A NAME="1184"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001185.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1185"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001186.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen +</A><A NAME="1186"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001242.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A><A NAME="1242"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001243.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1243"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001285.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1285"> </A> +<I>verdeterra +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001212.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1212"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sat Sep 25 23:31:52 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 19:32:57 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/date.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/date.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..aa7be4ae6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/date.html @@ -0,0 +1,652 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 25 September 2010 Archive by date</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>25 September 2010 Archives by date</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Sep 25 00:27:21 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Sep 25 23:31:52 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 121<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001129.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1129"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001130.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1130"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001131.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A><A NAME="1131"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001132.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1132"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001133.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1133"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001134.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1134"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001135.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1135"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001136.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1136"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001137.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1137"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001138.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1138"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001139.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1139"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001140.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1140"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001141.html">[Mageia-discuss] [PORTUGUESE] Portugal inhabitants: do you want a separated translation? +</A><A NAME="1141"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001142.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1142"> </A> +<I>Jéjé +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001143.html">[Mageia-discuss] [PORTUGUESE] Portugal inhabitants: do you want a separated translation? +</A><A NAME="1143"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001144.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A><A NAME="1144"> </A> +<I>Dwight Paige +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001145.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1145"> </A> +<I>terraagua at gmail.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001146.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1146"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001147.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's slogan in greek +</A><A NAME="1147"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001148.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1148"> </A> +<I>Luis Fernando Carrillo Vega +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001149.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1149"> </A> +<I>SinnerBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001151.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1151"> </A> +<I>Dwight Paige +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001285.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1285"> </A> +<I>verdeterra +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001150.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1150"> </A> +<I>terraagua at gmail.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001152.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1152"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001153.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1153"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001154.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1154"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001155.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1155"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001156.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1156"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001157.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1157"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001158.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1158"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001163.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1163"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001159.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A><A NAME="1159"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001160.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1160"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001162.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1162"> </A> +<I>JUAN CARLOS +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001161.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1161"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001164.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1164"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001167.html">[Mageia-discuss] commercial support +</A><A NAME="1167"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001168.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A><A NAME="1168"> </A> +<I>franck +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001169.html">[Mageia-discuss] [PORTUGUESE] Portugal inhabitants: do you want a separated translation? +</A><A NAME="1169"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001170.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A><A NAME="1170"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001177.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A><A NAME="1177"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001171.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1171"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001172.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1172"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001173.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1173"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001174.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1174"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001178.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1178"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001179.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1179"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001175.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1175"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001176.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1176"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001180.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A><A NAME="1180"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001181.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1181"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001182.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1182"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001183.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1183"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001184.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A><A NAME="1184"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001191.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1191"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001185.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1185"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001186.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen +</A><A NAME="1186"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001187.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1187"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001188.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1188"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001190.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1190"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001192.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1192"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001189.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site megeia-br? +</A><A NAME="1189"> </A> +<I>terraagua at gmail.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001194.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1194"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001196.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1196"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001197.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1197"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001195.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1195"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001198.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1198"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001199.html">[Mageia-discuss] Opendesktop group for Mageia +</A><A NAME="1199"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001200.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1200"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001201.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1201"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001202.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1202"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1203"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001204.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1204"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001205.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1205"> </A> +<I>Cassian Braconnnier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001206.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1206"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001207.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1207"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001208.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1208"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001209.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1209"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001210.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1210"> </A> +<I>Cassian Braconnnier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001211.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1211"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001218.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1218"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001212.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1212"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001213.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1213"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001214.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1214"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001219.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1219"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001215.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1215"> </A> +<I>chag +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001216.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1216"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001220.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1220"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001217.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1217"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001221.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1221"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001222.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1222"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001223.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1223"> </A> +<I>You-Cheng Hsieh +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001224.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1224"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001225.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1225"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001226.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1226"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001227.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1227"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001228.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1228"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001229.html">[Mageia-discuss] Licence for the blog entry and the website +</A><A NAME="1229"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001231.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A><A NAME="1231"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001230.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1230"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001232.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1232"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001233.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1233"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001234.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1234"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001235.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1235"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001236.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1236"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001237.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1237"> </A> +<I>Diego Bello +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001238.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1238"> </A> +<I>Diego Bello +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001239.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1239"> </A> +<I>Adrian Marcinkowski +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001240.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A><A NAME="1240"> </A> +<I>Frederic Janssens +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001241.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 176 +</A><A NAME="1241"> </A> +<I>miodragz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001242.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A><A NAME="1242"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001243.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1243"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001244.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1244"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001245.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1245"> </A> +<I>Raphaël Jadot +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001246.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1246"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001247.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1247"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001248.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1248"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001249.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1249"> </A> +<I>isadora +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001250.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1250"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001251.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1251"> </A> +<I>SinnerBOFH +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sat Sep 25 23:31:52 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 19:32:57 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/index.html new file mode 120000 index 000000000..db4b46f72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/index.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +thread.html
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<b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Sep 25 23:31:52 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 121<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001141.html">[Mageia-discuss] [PORTUGUESE] Portugal inhabitants: do you want a separated translation? +</A><A NAME="1141"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001143.html">[Mageia-discuss] [PORTUGUESE] Portugal inhabitants: do you want a separated translation? +</A><A NAME="1143"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001169.html">[Mageia-discuss] [PORTUGUESE] Portugal inhabitants: do you want a separated translation? +</A><A NAME="1169"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001142.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1142"> </A> +<I>Jéjé +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001157.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1157"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001245.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1245"> </A> +<I>Raphaël Jadot +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001246.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1246"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001248.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1248"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001129.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1129"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001134.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1134"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001140.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1140"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001163.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1163"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001171.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1171"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001175.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1175"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001183.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1183"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001209.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1209"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001223.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1223"> </A> +<I>You-Cheng Hsieh +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001167.html">[Mageia-discuss] commercial support +</A><A NAME="1167"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001131.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A><A NAME="1131"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001144.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A><A NAME="1144"> </A> +<I>Dwight Paige +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001177.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A><A NAME="1177"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001132.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1132"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001158.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1158"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001160.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1160"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001161.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1161"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001164.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1164"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001185.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1185"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001187.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1187"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001190.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1190"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001192.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1192"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001195.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1195"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001200.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1200"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001229.html">[Mageia-discuss] Licence for the blog entry and the website +</A><A NAME="1229"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001173.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1173"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001176.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1176"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001181.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1181"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001188.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1188"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001194.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1194"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001147.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's slogan in greek +</A><A NAME="1147"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001213.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1213"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001215.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1215"> </A> +<I>chag +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001232.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1232"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001235.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1235"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001236.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1236"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001238.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1238"> </A> +<I>Diego Bello +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001239.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1239"> </A> +<I>Adrian Marcinkowski +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001243.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1243"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001251.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1251"> </A> +<I>SinnerBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001148.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1148"> </A> +<I>Luis Fernando Carrillo Vega +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001149.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1149"> </A> +<I>SinnerBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001151.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1151"> </A> +<I>Dwight Paige +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001230.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1230"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001237.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1237"> </A> +<I>Diego Bello +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001241.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 176 +</A><A NAME="1241"> </A> +<I>miodragz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001133.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1133"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001154.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1154"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001155.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1155"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001156.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1156"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001178.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1178"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001179.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1179"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001218.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1218"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001222.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1222"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001225.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1225"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001170.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A><A NAME="1170"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001184.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A><A NAME="1184"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001231.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A><A NAME="1231"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001240.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A><A NAME="1240"> </A> +<I>Frederic Janssens +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001242.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A><A NAME="1242"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001162.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1162"> </A> +<I>JUAN CARLOS +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001244.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1244"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001247.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1247"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001249.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1249"> </A> +<I>isadora +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001159.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A><A NAME="1159"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001168.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A><A NAME="1168"> </A> +<I>franck +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001180.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A><A NAME="1180"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001199.html">[Mageia-discuss] Opendesktop group for Mageia +</A><A NAME="1199"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001130.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1130"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001135.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1135"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001136.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1136"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001137.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1137"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001138.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1138"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001139.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1139"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001182.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1182"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001186.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen +</A><A NAME="1186"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001152.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1152"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001153.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1153"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001191.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1191"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001196.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1196"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001197.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1197"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001198.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1198"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001201.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1201"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001202.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1202"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1203"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001204.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1204"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001205.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1205"> </A> +<I>Cassian Braconnnier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001206.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1206"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001207.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1207"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001208.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1208"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001210.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1210"> </A> +<I>Cassian Braconnnier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001211.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1211"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001212.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1212"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001214.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1214"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001219.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1219"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001216.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1216"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001220.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1220"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001217.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1217"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001221.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1221"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001224.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1224"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001226.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1226"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001227.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1227"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001228.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1228"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001233.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1233"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001234.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1234"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001250.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1250"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001145.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1145"> </A> +<I>terraagua at gmail.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001146.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1146"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001285.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1285"> </A> +<I>verdeterra +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001150.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1150"> </A> +<I>terraagua at gmail.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001172.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1172"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001174.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1174"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001189.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site megeia-br? +</A><A NAME="1189"> </A> +<I>terraagua at gmail.com +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sat Sep 25 23:31:52 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 19:32:57 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/thread.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..593a9a5e5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100925/thread.html @@ -0,0 +1,863 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 25 September 2010 Archive by thread</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>25 September 2010 Archives by thread</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Sep 25 00:27:21 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Sep 25 23:31:52 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 121<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01285367241- --> +<LI><A HREF="001129.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1129"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285367241-01285400124- --> +<LI><A HREF="001171.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1171"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285367438- --> +<LI><A HREF="001130.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1130"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285367438-01285370787- --> +<LI><A HREF="001135.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1135"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285367438-01285370787-01285371905- --> +<LI><A HREF="001136.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1136"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285367438-01285370787-01285371905-01285372475- --> +<LI><A HREF="001137.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1137"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<!--3 01285367438-01285370787-01285371905-01285372475-01285373382- --> +<LI><A HREF="001138.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1138"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285367584- --> +<LI><A HREF="001131.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A><A NAME="1131"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285367584-01285399875- --> +<LI><A HREF="001177.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A><A NAME="1177"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285367643- --> +<LI><A HREF="001132.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1132"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285367643-01285395997- --> +<LI><A HREF="001158.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1158"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285367643-01285395997-01285396703- --> +<LI><A HREF="001160.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1160"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285367643-01285395997-01285396703-01285397477- --> +<LI><A HREF="001161.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1161"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<!--3 01285367643-01285395997-01285396703-01285397477-01285398090- --> +<LI><A HREF="001164.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1164"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<!--3 01285367643-01285395997-01285396703-01285397477-01285398090-01285406145- --> +<LI><A HREF="001185.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1185"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<!--3 01285367643-01285395997-01285396703-01285397477-01285398090-01285406145-01285407462- --> +<LI><A HREF="001187.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1187"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<!--3 01285367643-01285395997-01285396703-01285397477-01285398090-01285406145-01285407462-01285410939- --> +<LI><A HREF="001190.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1190"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<!--3 01285367643-01285395997-01285396703-01285397477-01285398090-01285406145-01285407462-01285410939-01285411533- --> +<LI><A HREF="001192.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1192"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<!--3 01285367643-01285395997-01285396703-01285397477-01285398090-01285406145-01285407462-01285410939-01285413690- --> +<LI><A HREF="001195.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1195"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<!--3 01285367643-01285395997-01285396703-01285397477-01285398090-01285406145-01285407462-01285410939-01285413690-01285415800- --> +<LI><A HREF="001200.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.1 +</A><A NAME="1200"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285369482- --> +<LI><A HREF="001133.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1133"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<!--0 01285370046- --> +<LI><A HREF="001134.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1134"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285370046-01285374228- --> +<LI><A HREF="001140.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1140"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285370046-01285374228-01285396094- --> +<LI><A HREF="001163.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1163"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285370046-01285382446- --> +<LI><A HREF="001145.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1145"> </A> +<I>terraagua at gmail.com +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285370046-01285382446-01285400188- --> +<LI><A HREF="001172.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1172"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285370046-01285401215- --> +<LI><A HREF="001175.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1175"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285373518- --> +<LI><A HREF="001139.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1139"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285373518-01285404072- --> +<LI><A HREF="001182.html">[Mageia-discuss] Some news about donations +</A><A NAME="1182"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285375227- --> +<LI><A HREF="001141.html">[Mageia-discuss] [PORTUGUESE] Portugal inhabitants: do you want a separated translation? +</A><A NAME="1141"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285375227-01285377487- --> +<LI><A HREF="001143.html">[Mageia-discuss] [PORTUGUESE] Portugal inhabitants: do you want a separated translation? +</A><A NAME="1143"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285375227-01285377487-01285399487- --> +<LI><A HREF="001169.html">[Mageia-discuss] [PORTUGUESE] Portugal inhabitants: do you want a separated translation? +</A><A NAME="1169"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285376727- --> +<LI><A HREF="001142.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1142"> </A> +<I>Jéjé +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285376727-01285395025- --> +<LI><A HREF="001157.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1157"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285376727-01285395025-01285445153- --> +<LI><A HREF="001245.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1245"> </A> +<I>Raphaël Jadot +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285376727-01285395025-01285445153-01285445486- --> +<LI><A HREF="001246.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1246"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<!--3 01285376727-01285395025-01285445153-01285445486-01285445648- --> +<LI><A HREF="001248.html">[Mageia-discuss] An idea of logo +</A><A NAME="1248"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285379177- --> +<LI><A HREF="001144.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cooker's Name +</A><A NAME="1144"> </A> +<I>Dwight Paige +</I> + +<!--0 01285382911- --> +<LI><A HREF="001146.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1146"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285382911-01285386823- --> +<LI><A HREF="001285.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1285"> </A> +<I>verdeterra +</I> + +<!--1 01285382911-01285400554- --> +<LI><A HREF="001174.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1174"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285382968- --> +<LI><A HREF="001147.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's slogan in greek +</A><A NAME="1147"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<!--0 01285384149- --> +<LI><A HREF="001148.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1148"> </A> +<I>Luis Fernando Carrillo Vega +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285384149-01285385480- --> +<LI><A HREF="001149.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1149"> </A> +<I>SinnerBOFH +</I> + +<!--1 01285384149-01285385861- --> +<LI><A HREF="001151.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1151"> </A> +<I>Dwight Paige +</I> + +<!--1 01285384149-01285431115- --> +<LI><A HREF="001230.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1230"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285384149-01285431115-01285439016- --> +<LI><A HREF="001237.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 162 +</A><A NAME="1237"> </A> +<I>Diego Bello +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285386969- --> +<LI><A HREF="001150.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1150"> </A> +<I>terraagua at gmail.com +</I> + +<!--0 01285390671- --> +<LI><A HREF="001152.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1152"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285390671-01285406029- --> +<LI><A HREF="001191.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1191"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285390671-01285406029-01285413557- --> +<LI><A HREF="001196.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1196"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<!--2 01285390671-01285406029-01285413568- --> +<LI><A HREF="001197.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1197"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285413568-01285422101- --> +<LI><A HREF="001220.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1220"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285413568-01285422101-01285446954- --> +<LI><A HREF="001250.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1250"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895- --> +<LI><A HREF="001201.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1201"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895-01285416760- --> +<LI><A HREF="001204.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1204"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895-01285416760-01285421004- --> +<LI><A HREF="001214.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1214"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895-01285417357- --> +<LI><A HREF="001206.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1206"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895-01285417357-01285421491- --> +<LI><A HREF="001216.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1216"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895-01285417390- --> +<LI><A HREF="001207.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1207"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895-01285417390-01285422250- --> +<LI><A HREF="001217.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1217"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895-01285417390-01285422250-01285423426- --> +<LI><A HREF="001224.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1224"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895-01285417880- --> +<LI><A HREF="001208.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1208"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895-01285417880-01285418944- --> +<LI><A HREF="001210.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1210"> </A> +<I>Cassian Braconnnier +</I> + +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895-01285417880-01285418944-01285422900- --> +<LI><A HREF="001221.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1221"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895-01285417880-01285419188- --> +<LI><A HREF="001211.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1211"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895-01285417880-01285419188-01285423962- --> +<LI><A HREF="001226.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1226"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895-01285420381- --> +<LI><A HREF="001212.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1212"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895-01285420381-01285424445- --> +<LI><A HREF="001227.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1227"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895-01285426456- --> +<LI><A HREF="001228.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1228"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI +</I> + +<!--3 01285390671-01285406029-01285415895-01285426456-01285432316- --> +<LI><A HREF="001233.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1233"> </A> +<I>Farfouille +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01285390671-01285406029-01285416618- --> +<LI><A HREF="001203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1203"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<!--2 01285390671-01285406029-01285433207- --> +<LI><A HREF="001234.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1234"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285390675- --> +<LI><A HREF="001153.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1153"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<!--0 01285391792- --> +<LI><A HREF="001154.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1154"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<!--0 01285392316- --> +<LI><A HREF="001155.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1155"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<!--0 01285392340- --> +<LI><A HREF="001156.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1156"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<!--0 01285396252- --> +<LI><A HREF="001159.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A><A NAME="1159"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285396252-01285399257- --> +<LI><A HREF="001168.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A><A NAME="1168"> </A> +<I>franck +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285397255- --> +<LI><A HREF="001162.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1162"> </A> +<I>JUAN CARLOS +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285397255-01285445144- --> +<LI><A HREF="001244.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1244"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285397255-01285445144-01285445576- --> +<LI><A HREF="001247.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1247"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285397255-01285445144-01285445576-01285446062- --> +<LI><A HREF="001249.html">[Mageia-discuss] ny opinion +</A><A NAME="1249"> </A> +<I>isadora +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285398665- --> +<LI><A HREF="001167.html">[Mageia-discuss] commercial support +</A><A NAME="1167"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--0 01285399500- --> +<LI><A HREF="001170.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A><A NAME="1170"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285399500-01285406004- --> +<LI><A HREF="001184.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A><A NAME="1184"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285400374- --> +<LI><A HREF="001173.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1173"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285400374-01285401520- --> +<LI><A HREF="001176.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1176"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285400374-01285401520-01285402719- --> +<LI><A HREF="001181.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1181"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285400374-01285409596- --> +<LI><A HREF="001188.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1188"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285400374-01285409596-01285412652- --> +<LI><A HREF="001194.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A><A NAME="1194"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285400602- --> +<LI><A HREF="001178.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1178"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285400602-01285420182- --> +<LI><A HREF="001218.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1218"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285400602-01285420182-01285423048- --> +<LI><A HREF="001222.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1222"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<!--2 01285400602-01285420182-01285423682- --> +<LI><A HREF="001225.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1225"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285401176- --> +<LI><A HREF="001179.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailist etiquette -- gentle reminder +</A><A NAME="1179"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--0 01285401523- --> +<LI><A HREF="001180.html">[Mageia-discuss] On the icons, desktop themes and related stuff +</A><A NAME="1180"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--0 01285405497- --> +<LI><A HREF="001183.html">[Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest +</A><A NAME="1183"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<!--0 01285407016- --> +<LI><A HREF="001186.html">[Mageia-discuss] State of the kitchen +</A><A NAME="1186"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<!--0 01285411775- --> +<LI><A HREF="001189.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site megeia-br? +</A><A NAME="1189"> </A> +<I>terraagua at gmail.com +</I> + +<!--0 01285414844- --> +<LI><A HREF="001198.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1198"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285414844-01285421160- --> +<LI><A HREF="001219.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1219"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285415646- --> +<LI><A HREF="001199.html">[Mageia-discuss] Opendesktop group for Mageia +</A><A NAME="1199"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<!--0 01285416190- --> +<LI><A HREF="001202.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1202"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285416190-01285417275- --> +<LI><A HREF="001205.html">[Mageia-discuss] Think about bugzilla monitoring? +</A><A NAME="1205"> </A> +<I>Cassian Braconnnier +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285418587- --> +<LI><A HREF="001209.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1209"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285418587-01285423073- --> +<LI><A HREF="001223.html">[Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page +</A><A NAME="1223"> </A> +<I>You-Cheng Hsieh +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285420587- --> +<LI><A HREF="001213.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1213"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285420587-01285421181- --> +<LI><A HREF="001215.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1215"> </A> +<I>chag +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285420587-01285421181-01285432136- --> +<LI><A HREF="001232.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1232"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285420587-01285421181-01285432136-01285433517- --> +<LI><A HREF="001235.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1235"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285428856- --> +<LI><A HREF="001229.html">[Mageia-discuss] Licence for the blog entry and the website +</A><A NAME="1229"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<!--0 01285430203- --> +<LI><A HREF="001231.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A><A NAME="1231"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285430203-01285440255- --> +<LI><A HREF="001240.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A><A NAME="1240"> </A> +<I>Frederic Janssens +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285430203-01285440255-01285441532- --> +<LI><A HREF="001242.html">[Mageia-discuss] New list created for i18n +</A><A NAME="1242"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285438716- --> +<LI><A HREF="001236.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1236"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285438716-01285439203- --> +<LI><A HREF="001238.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1238"> </A> +<I>Diego Bello +</I> + +<!--1 01285438716-01285439864- --> +<LI><A HREF="001239.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1239"> </A> +<I>Adrian Marcinkowski +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285438716-01285439864-01285444056- --> +<LI><A HREF="001243.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1243"> </A> +<I>atilla ontas +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285438716-01285439864-01285444056-01285450312- --> +<LI><A HREF="001251.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss [LOGO] +</A><A NAME="1251"> </A> +<I>SinnerBOFH +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285440905- --> +<LI><A HREF="001241.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 176 +</A><A NAME="1241"> </A> +<I>miodragz +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sat Sep 25 23:31:52 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Sep 26 19:32:57 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |