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And Fedora people have +</I>>>><i> also worked on this since a long time. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Our project as announced less than a week ago, and there is lots of work +</I>>>><i> to do to get basic infrastructure, answer mails and so on. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> So could people please start to consider that we are only human living +</I>>>><i> in a world with 24h a day, and therefor, that everything cannot be yet written, +</I>>>><i> and that we should rush important document like this ? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I think the biggest problem here is that for most of the people, both on +</I>>><i> the ML and GMane, the core group individuals are still a mystery. There +</I>>><i> is no note on any of the pages identifying the initial organisers of the +</I>>><i> Mageia project. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, that was roughly a subset of the list of people in the first +</I>><i> announcement ( before we started to add people ). +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> If this were published and public on the mageia.org page, then there +</I>>><i> would probably be fewer questions. In fact, I think the core group is +</I>>><i> making it more frustrating to themselves by not communicating clearly +</I>>><i> who is behind the organising "right at this moment". This would leave to +</I>>><i> such comments as you have said and heard from other individuals "So +</I>>><i> could people please ...." be patient. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The communication to the community should be clearer from the core +</I>>><i> group. This is a necessity. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, I am here to tirelessly read all mails on the ml and answer to +</I>><i> those I think I can answer, and I think you may have overlooked when I +</I>><i> presented myself on the ml. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IMHO, saying "I am also involved in the +</I>><i> launch of the Mageia project since the start some months ago." was a +</I>><i> clear message. +</I> +Well, that may have been said on the ML before I got on the Gmane and +erased. The same could be said for eveyone else who got on the ML and +would still no know. But no problem. + +><i> +</I>><i> While I would not present or consider myself as "core" based on +</I>><i> egalitarian beliefs, I think that for most people, I am considered like +</I>><i> it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So except answers to questions that are not decided yet, what do you +</I>><i> expect ? +</I> +I guess we are all trying to fill out the groups call to help out as you +had first laid out on the mageia.org page. But I guess if you now seem +to have changed your expectations of the community and no longer need as +much help, then, no problem. It is not "what do you expect" that we were +trying to help out with, but the group's expectation. No problem with +this again. I can wait longer and wait till you decide you need help then. + +><i> +</I>>><i> There should also be a regular representative who reports back to the +</I>>><i> community. I think Anne is well known and respected and would be the +</I>>><i> most logical choice for this. AND someone to replace Anne when she is +</I>>><i> not able to do this after her working day. You need 24hrs a day +</I>>><i> representation on the ML and GMane. I did notice that once the Europeans +</I>>><i> are off and (obviously) at sleep, North Americans are on. You need to +</I>>><i> find a way to service your community 24hrs/day. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think people are perfectly able to wait a few hours before getting a +</I>><i> response from a community effort, don't you ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Shall I remind the voluntary part of the engagement of most people on +</I>><i> the list ? +</I> +We are all volunteering also. But then, no problem. + +Marc + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001184.html">[Mageia-discuss] MLO will take part in the Mageia porject +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001176.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia's objectives and foundations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1173">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1173">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1173">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1173">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |