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Hodgins</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.waza7nmqn7mcit%40hodgins.homeip.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1">davidwhodgins at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Mar 11 00:51:13 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006685.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6682">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6682">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6682">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6682">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 17:29:09 -0500, Thomas C Gilliard <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">satellit at bendbroadband.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> wiki page detailing install: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Mageia#Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Mageia#Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1</A> +</I> +Ouch! Why the --allow-force? If there are package conflicts, those +should be resolved via bug reports, instead of suggesting the use of +the --allow-force option. + +Using that in my Mandriva install caused a number of problems with +my upgrade to Mageia 1. + +Regards, Dave Hodgins +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006685.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6682">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6682">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6682">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6682">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006683.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006683.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..aa840cad2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006683.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3CCABV-EOs7bdqxEJN87GFsD9MU5yhGeoorMdJ0TRyKqUi4omp5Ow%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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that these users need awareness of the bandwidth constraint +</I>>>><i> has +</I>>>><i> been stated in many threads of this ML. Can this be improved? - certainly +</I>>>><i> not an issue for Beta 2. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Right now, the splitting of the handbook packages will use the same +</I>>><i> bandwidth as before. As Anssi said, before the handbooks came bundled +</I>>><i> with the owner package, so they were also being installed. So +</I>>><i> bandwidth wise, is still the same as before the splitting. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> I haven't looked into it, but perhaps we could install those handbooks as +</I>><i> Suggests instead of Requires (or is it already done that way?). +</I>><i> Then people wanting to save bandwidth could just install using +</I>><i> "--no-suggests". +</I>handbooks (when i initially created the split to fix mga #2101) where +only added as suggested. +How ever due to the use of bcd to create iso since mga2, suggests are +not available anymore on iso so in order to workaround it luc did add +a task handbooks which pulls thoses handbooks for dvd generation (& so +they are now available on iso). +Maybe a bug should be created with the problematic packages so luc can +have a look on it. + + + +-- +Balcaen John +Jabber-id: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net</A> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006683.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6684">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6684">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6684">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6684">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006685.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006685.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fdff97e70 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006685.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5BF72A.2090400%40bendbroadband.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006682.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006686.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1</H1> + <B>Thomas C Gilliard</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5BF72A.2090400%40bendbroadband.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1">satellit at bendbroadband.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Mar 11 01:51:54 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006686.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6685">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6685">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6685">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6685">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +On 03/10/2012 03:51 PM, David W. Hodgins wrote: +><i> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 17:29:09 -0500, Thomas C Gilliard +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">satellit at bendbroadband.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> wiki page detailing install: +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Mageia#Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Mageia#Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ouch! Why the --allow-force? If there are package conflicts, those +</I>><i> should be resolved via bug reports, instead of suggesting the use of +</I>><i> the --allow-force option. +</I>><i> +</I>--allow-force + on command was left over from testing I did on alpha. Let me retest +the install with out it. + +Regards; + +Tom Gilliard + +><i> Using that in my Mandriva install caused a number of problems with +</I>><i> my upgrade to Mageia 1. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, Dave Hodgins +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006686.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6685">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6685">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6685">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6685">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006686.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006686.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..848543692 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006686.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5C0EE8.20503%40bendbroadband.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006685.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006683.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1</H1> + <B>Thomas C Gilliard</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5C0EE8.20503%40bendbroadband.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1">satellit at bendbroadband.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Mar 11 03:33:12 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006685.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006683.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6686">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6686">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6686">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6686">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Updated the wiki page after retest: + --allow-force is not needed. + +What is this? + Occurred in terminal while installing: + I chose 1 + + Webkit dependency + 1-) libwebkit-girl3.0-1.7.5-1.mga2.i586 + 2-) libwebkit-girl1.0-1.7.5-1.mga2.i586 + What is you choice (1 or 2) + *1* + + +<A HREF="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Mageia#Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Mageia#Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1</A> + +On 03/10/2012 03:51 PM, David W. Hodgins wrote: +><i> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 17:29:09 -0500, Thomas C Gilliard +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">satellit at bendbroadband.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> wiki page detailing install: +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Mageia#Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Mageia#Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ouch! Why the --allow-force? If there are package conflicts, those +</I>><i> should be resolved via bug reports, instead of suggesting the use of +</I>><i> the --allow-force option. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Using that in my Mandriva install caused a number of problems with +</I>><i> my upgrade to Mageia 1. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, Dave Hodgins +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120310/b7ccc958/attachment.html> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006685.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006683.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6686">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6686">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6686">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6686">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006687.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006687.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..acf9c5108 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006687.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5C7D27.60801%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006684.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006688.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot</H1> + <B>Luc Menut</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5C7D27.60801%40free.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot">lmenut at free.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Mar 11 11:23:35 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006684.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006688.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6687">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6687">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6687">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6687">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 07/03/2012 17:46, Juergen Harms a écrit : +><i> Upgrading to KDE 4.8.1 I realised that substantial time is lost +</I>><i> downloading fat handbooks that I do not need. +</I> +handbooks are fully part of a kde install; they shouldn't be removed. +A kde install without handbooks is a damaged kde install. + +<teasing> could you please be consistent; in bugreport 3871#c29 you ask +to have more documentation, and here you say us that you don't need +handbooks, and remove them. I don't understand. +<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3871#c29">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3871#c29</A> +I'm sure you can learn about lots of nice kde features if you read +handbooks :-) +</teasing> + +><i> - I am getting (lots of) handbooks for games, where the games themselves +</I>><i> are not installed (I use a minimum install, nevertheless get some games +</I>><i> which I remove with urpme kdegames4 - I suspect that this forgets to +</I>><i> remove the corresponding handbooks). +</I> +I wrongly added in task-kde4-handbooks some handbooks for games that are +not installed by default (because DVD iso are currently built without +suggests). +I will fix this after beta2. + +><i> - I am getting (non-requested) kde-l10n-handbooks for french, german and +</I>><i> en_GB, probably due to the fact that these languages are specified in +</I>><i> the kde locale (languages tab) - to support spellchecking and +</I>><i> hyphenation, that should not trigger the handbooks +</I> +weird, could you please open a bugreport including the result of + rpm -qa |grep kde-l10n + + +regards, +Luc + +-- +Luc Menut +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006684.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006688.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6687">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6687">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6687">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6687">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006688.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006688.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..34e3aa853 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006688.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5C8651.7060307%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006687.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006689.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot</H1> + <B>Luc Menut</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5C8651.7060307%40free.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot">lmenut at free.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Mar 11 12:02:41 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6688">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6688">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6688">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6688">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 10/03/2012 23:49, Oliver Burger a écrit : +><i> Am 10.03.2012 23:46, schrieb Juan Luis Baptiste: +</I>[...] +>><i> Right now, the splitting of the handbook packages will use the same +</I>>><i> bandwidth as before. As Anssi said, before the handbooks came bundled +</I>>><i> with the owner package, so they were also being installed. So +</I>>><i> bandwidth wise, is still the same as before the splitting. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> I haven't looked into it, but perhaps we could install those handbooks +</I>><i> as Suggests instead of Requires (or is it already done that way?). +</I>><i> Then people wanting to save bandwidth could just install using +</I>><i> "--no-suggests". +</I> +I don't agree. Handbooks are fully part of a kde install; they should be +installed, and shouldn't be removed. A kde install without handbooks is +a damaged kde install. Do you think that the kde doc team will continue +to work on handbooks if each distrib don't install its work? +That's why, personally I think the exact opposite; each component should +*requires* its handbook (but probably it won't work with LiveCD). + +John split handbooks in sub-packages for technical reason (LiveCD +excludes docs, and we had no easy way to install handbooks after an +install from LiveCD). This shouldn't be used to uninstall all the kde +documentation. + +regards, +Luc + +-- +Luc Menut +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6688">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6688">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6688">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6688">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006689.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006689.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cdf9aa702 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006689.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj7vQP4ZGyKN86rcUYm7NO95hXvN7V9wx%2Baey-DXBTNZLQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006688.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006691.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj7vQP4ZGyKN86rcUYm7NO95hXvN7V9wx%2Baey-DXBTNZLQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Mar 11 12:14:57 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006688.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006691.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6689">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6689">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6689">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6689">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2012/3/11 Luc Menut <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lmenut at free.fr</A>>: +><i> Le 10/03/2012 23:49, Oliver Burger a écrit : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Am 10.03.2012 23:46, schrieb Juan Luis Baptiste: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> [...] +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Right now, the splitting of the handbook packages will use the same +</I>>>><i> bandwidth as before. As Anssi said, before the handbooks came bundled +</I>>>><i> with the owner package, so they were also being installed. So +</I>>>><i> bandwidth wise, is still the same as before the splitting. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> I haven't looked into it, but perhaps we could install those handbooks +</I>>><i> as Suggests instead of Requires (or is it already done that way?). +</I>>><i> Then people wanting to save bandwidth could just install using +</I>>><i> "--no-suggests". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't agree. Handbooks are fully part of a kde install; they should be +</I>><i> installed, and shouldn't be removed. A kde install without handbooks is a +</I>><i> damaged kde install. Do you think that the kde doc team will continue to +</I>><i> work on handbooks if each distrib don't install its work? +</I>><i> That's why, personally I think the exact opposite; each component should +</I>><i> *requires* its handbook (but probably it won't work with LiveCD). +</I> +I don't agree. You seem to first take for granted that a user of the +KDE desktop also uses all the applications and second you mistake +"good to have" for "must have". I'm using KDE but only few KDE +applications - so why do I need a handbook for kppp or knode or kmail +when I don't even install these applications? I would happily +de-install such handbooks as I regularly unmark grub-doc and similar +packages from installation. + +In your previous reply to Juergen you also showed that you +misunderstood his wish for Mageia documentation. It is good and +important that documentation is available if needed. But it must not +be forced on those who don't want/need it. + +I may add that I have been involved in documentation writing and +translating for almost 7 years. But I never thought that users must +use it if they don't need it. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006688.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006691.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6689">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6689">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6689">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6689">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006690.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006690.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..49ff688f4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006690.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Vote for board + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Vote%20for%20board&In-Reply-To=%3C1331465385.1167.31.camel%40liliana.cdg.redhat.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006696.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007772.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Vote%20for%20board&In-Reply-To=%3C1331465385.1167.31.camel%40liliana.cdg.redhat.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Mar 11 12:29:45 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006696.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6690">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6690">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6690">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6690">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, + +so there was exactly 2 candidates for the board : +Oliver Burger +Nicolas Vigier + +We have 2 choice : +basically, iether say "there is the people who volunteered so they are +in the board", or do the full procedure. + +While I would like to make sure that I am still able to use epoll, I am +not sure if that's really useful or a proper use of my time and of those +people in the association. + +What do people think ? + +( ps, the deadline is for tonight, vote would have to start on 12/03 to +14/03 ) + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006696.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6690">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6690">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6690">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6690">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006691.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006691.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eae8ee3ea --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006691.html @@ -0,0 +1,116 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3CCALVo_BjDDt5a9inCHBM9PE3Gz2A0%3Ds5ArRGiDjcay29ZJma0XA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006689.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006693.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot</H1> + <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3CCALVo_BjDDt5a9inCHBM9PE3Gz2A0%3Ds5ArRGiDjcay29ZJma0XA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot">dglent at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Mar 11 12:59:47 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6691">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6691">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6691">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6691">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 11 mars 2012 12:15, "Wolfgang Bornath" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> 2012/3/11 Luc Menut <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lmenut at free.fr</A>>: +</I>><i> > Le 10/03/2012 23:49, Oliver Burger a écrit : +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Am 10.03.2012 23:46, schrieb Juan Luis Baptiste: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > [...] +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> Right now, the splitting of the handbook packages will use the same +</I>><i> >>> bandwidth as before. As Anssi said, before the handbooks came bundled +</I>><i> >>> with the owner package, so they were also being installed. So +</I>><i> >>> bandwidth wise, is still the same as before the splitting. +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >> I haven't looked into it, but perhaps we could install those handbooks +</I>><i> >> as Suggests instead of Requires (or is it already done that way?). +</I>><i> >> Then people wanting to save bandwidth could just install using +</I>><i> >> "--no-suggests". +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I don't agree. Handbooks are fully part of a kde install; they should be +</I>><i> > installed, and shouldn't be removed. A kde install without handbooks is +</I>a +><i> > damaged kde install. Do you think that the kde doc team will continue to +</I>><i> > work on handbooks if each distrib don't install its work? +</I>><i> > That's why, personally I think the exact opposite; each component should +</I>><i> > *requires* its handbook (but probably it won't work with LiveCD). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't agree. You seem to first take for granted that a user of the +</I>><i> KDE desktop also uses all the applications and second you mistake +</I>><i> "good to have" for "must have". I'm using KDE but only few KDE +</I>><i> applications - so why do I need a handbook for kppp or knode or kmail +</I>><i> when I don't even install these applications? I would happily +</I>><i> de-install such handbooks as I regularly unmark grub-doc and similar +</I>><i> packages from installation. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In your previous reply to Juergen you also showed that you +</I>><i> misunderstood his wish for Mageia documentation. It is good and +</I>><i> important that documentation is available if needed. But it must not +</I>><i> be forced on those who don't want/need it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I may add that I have been involved in documentation writing and +</I>><i> translating for almost 7 years. But I never thought that users must +</I>><i> use it if they don't need it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> wobo +</I> +I agree that documentation has to be available with the application i use. +While i use the program and i need more infos i press F1. If the handbook +it is not available what i will have ? A message informs me that the doc is +missing or it has to be installed manualy? + +As when you get any product it comes with its manual, i believe that the +handbook of an application is a must have, and an application should never +be installed without its documentation. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120311/25fd1eed/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6691">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6691">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6691">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6691">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006692.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006692.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a823ee340 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006692.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5C970C.60808%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006693.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006694.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot</H1> + <B>Luc Menut</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5C970C.60808%40free.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot">lmenut at free.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Mar 11 13:14:04 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006694.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6692">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6692">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6692">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6692">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 11/03/2012 12:14, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +><i> 2012/3/11 Luc Menut<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lmenut at free.fr</A>>: +</I>>><i> > +</I>[...] +>><i> I don't agree. Handbooks are fully part of a kde install; they should be +</I>>><i> > installed, and shouldn't be removed. A kde install without handbooks is a +</I>>><i> > damaged kde install. Do you think that the kde doc team will continue to +</I>>><i> > work on handbooks if each distrib don't install its work? +</I>>><i> > That's why, personally I think the exact opposite; each component should +</I>>><i> > *requires* its handbook (but probably it won't work with LiveCD). +</I>><i> I don't agree. You seem to first take for granted that a user of the +</I>><i> KDE desktop also uses all the applications and second you mistake +</I>><i> "good to have" for "must have". I'm using KDE but only few KDE +</I>><i> applications - so why do I need a handbook for kppp or knode or kmail +</I>><i> when I don't even install these applications? +</I> +I agree, and that's why I said "each component should requires its +handbook", meaning kdebase4-workspace requires +kdebase4-workspace-handbooks, kmail requires kmail-handbook, ... + +Currently, each component suggests its handbook (needed for LiveCD). +If we use only suggests for handbooks, the handbooks are missing on DVD +iso (because DVD iso doesn't include suggests), so that handbooks are +never installed with a DVD install, and all the kde docs will be missing +by default. +For now, I don't have a perfect solution to this problem. +To workaround this, I added a task-kde4-handbooks that REQUIRES the +handbooks for kde's components that are installed by a default mageia +kde install. I know that it's not perfect. + +I'm open to a better solution, but I really want to avoid that the +handbooks are not installed on most of mageia's install. + +regards, +Luc +-- +Luc Menut +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006694.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6692">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6692">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6692">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6692">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006693.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006693.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..76a59b613 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006693.html @@ -0,0 +1,127 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj4PAa8Y_S-vQKoz-fyK0GVjeLSeBe0gmpHXoc8pFLdr5g%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006691.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006692.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj4PAa8Y_S-vQKoz-fyK0GVjeLSeBe0gmpHXoc8pFLdr5g%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Mar 11 13:14:25 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006691.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006692.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6693">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6693">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6693">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6693">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2012/3/11 Dimitrios Glentadakis <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> Le 11 mars 2012 12:15, "Wolfgang Bornath" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> a écrit : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 2012/3/11 Luc Menut <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lmenut at free.fr</A>>: +</I>>><i> > Le 10/03/2012 23:49, Oliver Burger a écrit : +</I>>><i> >> +</I>>><i> >> Am 10.03.2012 23:46, schrieb Juan Luis Baptiste: +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > [...] +</I>>><i> >>> +</I>>><i> >>> Right now, the splitting of the handbook packages will use the same +</I>>><i> >>> bandwidth as before. As Anssi said, before the handbooks came bundled +</I>>><i> >>> with the owner package, so they were also being installed. So +</I>>><i> >>> bandwidth wise, is still the same as before the splitting. +</I>>><i> >>> +</I>>><i> >> I haven't looked into it, but perhaps we could install those handbooks +</I>>><i> >> as Suggests instead of Requires (or is it already done that way?). +</I>>><i> >> Then people wanting to save bandwidth could just install using +</I>>><i> >> "--no-suggests". +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > I don't agree. Handbooks are fully part of a kde install; they should be +</I>>><i> > installed, and shouldn't be removed. A kde install without handbooks is +</I>>><i> > a +</I>>><i> > damaged kde install. Do you think that the kde doc team will continue to +</I>>><i> > work on handbooks if each distrib don't install its work? +</I>>><i> > That's why, personally I think the exact opposite; each component should +</I>>><i> > *requires* its handbook (but probably it won't work with LiveCD). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I don't agree. You seem to first take for granted that a user of the +</I>>><i> KDE desktop also uses all the applications and second you mistake +</I>>><i> "good to have" for "must have". I'm using KDE but only few KDE +</I>>><i> applications - so why do I need a handbook for kppp or knode or kmail +</I>>><i> when I don't even install these applications? I would happily +</I>>><i> de-install such handbooks as I regularly unmark grub-doc and similar +</I>>><i> packages from installation. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> In your previous reply to Juergen you also showed that you +</I>>><i> misunderstood his wish for Mageia documentation. It is good and +</I>>><i> important that documentation is available if needed. But it must not +</I>>><i> be forced on those who don't want/need it. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I may add that I have been involved in documentation writing and +</I>>><i> translating for almost 7 years. But I never thought that users must +</I>>><i> use it if they don't need it. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> -- +</I>>><i> wobo +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I agree that documentation has to be available with the application i use. +</I>><i> While i use the program and i need more infos i press F1. If the handbook it +</I>><i> is not available what i will have ? A message informs me that the doc is +</I>><i> missing or it has to be installed manualy? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As when you get any product it comes with its manual, i believe that the +</I>><i> handbook of an application is a must have, and an application should never +</I>><i> be installed without its documentation. +</I> +You are right with the criterium "an application I use". But here we +are talking about handbooks of every single little KDE app being +forced upon the user, whether he wants/needs it or not. +Same as the examples grub-doc or qt-doc - an average user will never +need them and he can unmark them in package selection.. + +As for KDE I strongly suggest to have handbooks not required but all +KDE handbooks in one package, to be installed by default on a standard +KDE system but to be selectable in individual package selection - just +like with the other handbooks (Gimp, qt, etc.). + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006691.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006692.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6693">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6693">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6693">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6693">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006694.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006694.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6c2402c32 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006694.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5C9947.4020700%40eesti.ee%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I think +they'd both be excellent in the positions. + +Cheers, + +-- +Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V +-35.67896, 142.66637 +Mon Mar 12 07:53:31 EST 2012 +GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net +hermes up 3 day(s), 72 hour(s), 33 min. +kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga +-- +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: signature.asc +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 490 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120312/7765a42b/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006697.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006699.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6698">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6698">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6698">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6698">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006699.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006699.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..afaa39045 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/006699.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAJWAV%2BG%2B8YSxmU-uwuy6LZY2_7QO54e-kfiVG3PymYmd5tjb2A%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006698.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router</H1> + <B>WALKER RICHARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAJWAV%2BG%2B8YSxmU-uwuy6LZY2_7QO54e-kfiVG3PymYmd5tjb2A%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Mar 11 22:59:10 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6699">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6699">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6699">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6699">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 10/03/2012, imnotpc <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">imnotpc at rock3d.net</A>> wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> You mentioned in an earlier post that the mga1 box worked once after you +</I>><i> commented out the RPCMOUNTD_OPTIONS="--port 4003" option in +</I>><i> /etc/sysconfig/nfs-server. I just checked the mga1 test server I set up +</I>><i> yesterday and this option isn't set at all. Is it possible you are +</I>><i> mixing files from different Mandriva/Mageia versions? Perhaps try +</I>><i> un-installing nfs-utils and deleting all it's config files and start +</I>><i> again with a clean package install. +</I>><i> +</I> +Hi Jeff, it took a little more time than I thought but I have found +the cause and the cure for the problem with nfs-server function on +Mageia 1. In the process I learned how to use an rpm source package to +patch and rebuild the offending file for the nfs-utils package. +Tomorrow; the World! + +First up, the problem is well known and of quite some vintage. It only +affected nfs-utils v1.2.3 so versions just prior and subsequent (as in +v1.2.5 in Mageia 2 Cauldron) are OK. Hence the Mandriva 2010.2 worked +as did my MGA2 Beta1 server. + +This reference tells the whole story; +<A HREF="https://bugzilla.linux-nfs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190">https://bugzilla.linux-nfs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190</A> + +So the proposed fix was first seen in October 2010. I have used the +proposed patch to rebuild the nfs-utils-1.2.3-2.1.mga1 package and it +works perfectly well with the --ports option for rpc.mountd. + +In the course of all this I can confirm your observation that in a +fresh MGA1 install of the nfs server the RPCMOUNTD_OPTIONS= entry is +blank in /etc/sysconfig/nfs-server. My guess is that it is only set to +a specific port number when you use the personal firewall with a hole +for NFS. I don't see how you could configure the firewall if the +listening port were to be some random value, so I reckon it's a good +guess. + +I'll report this bug for the MGA1 package and we should have the fixed +version out quite soon. + +Richard +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6699">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6699">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6699">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6699">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/007772.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/007772.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f50174d9e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/007772.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Vote for board + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Vote%20for%20board&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5CBAFA.9040807%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006690.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006697.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board</H1> + <B>Colin Guthrie</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Vote%20for%20board&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5CBAFA.9040807%40colin.guthr.ie%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board">mageia at colin.guthr.ie + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Mar 11 15:47:29 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006690.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006697.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7772">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7772">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7772">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7772">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 11/03/12 11:29 did gyre and gimble: +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> so there was exactly 2 candidates for the board : +</I>><i> Oliver Burger +</I>><i> Nicolas Vigier +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We have 2 choice : +</I>><i> basically, iether say "there is the people who volunteered so they are +</I>><i> in the board", or do the full procedure. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> While I would like to make sure that I am still able to use epoll, I am +</I>><i> not sure if that's really useful or a proper use of my time and of those +</I>><i> people in the association. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What do people think ? +</I> +Assuming no more candidates present themselves, I would be more than +happy to have both Oliver and Nicolas on the board, and I think full +procedure can be skipped considering the deterministic nature of the +outcome. + +Col + + + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006690.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006697.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7772">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7772">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7772">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7772">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fa054c5d4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120311/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 11 March 2012 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>11 March 2012 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Mar 11 00:51:13 CET 2012</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Mar 11 22:59:10 CET 2012</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 19<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="006683.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6683"> </A> +<I>John Balcaen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006684.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6684"> </A> +<I>John Balcaen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6689"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6693"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006695.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6695"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board +</A><A NAME="6698"> </A> +<I>Patricia Fraser +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006685.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1 +</A><A NAME="6685"> </A> +<I>Thomas C Gilliard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006686.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1 +</A><A NAME="6686"> </A> +<I>Thomas C Gilliard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006691.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6691"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board +</A><A NAME="7772"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006682.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1 +</A><A NAME="6682"> </A> +<I>David W. 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Hodgins +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01331423473-01331427114- --> +<LI><A HREF="006685.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1 +</A><A NAME="6685"> </A> +<I>Thomas C Gilliard +</I> + +<!--1 01331423473-01331433192- --> +<LI><A HREF="006686.html">[Mageia-discuss] Adding_Sugar_0.95.1_to_Mageia_Beta_1 +</A><A NAME="6686"> </A> +<I>Thomas C Gilliard +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01331425153- --> +<LI><A HREF="006683.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6683"> </A> +<I>John Balcaen +</I> + +<!--0 01331425357- --> +<LI><A HREF="006684.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6684"> </A> +<I>John Balcaen +</I> + +<!--0 01331461415- --> +<LI><A HREF="006687.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6687"> </A> +<I>Luc Menut +</I> + +<!--0 01331463761- --> +<LI><A HREF="006688.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6688"> </A> +<I>Luc Menut +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01331463761-01331464497- --> +<LI><A HREF="006689.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6689"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01331463761-01331464497-01331467187- --> +<LI><A HREF="006691.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6691"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01331463761-01331464497-01331467187-01331468065- --> +<LI><A HREF="006693.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6693"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01331463761-01331464497-01331468044- --> +<LI><A HREF="006692.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6692"> </A> +<I>Luc Menut +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01331463761-01331464497-01331468044-01331468615- --> +<LI><A HREF="006694.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6694"> </A> +<I>Sander Lepik +</I> + +<!--3 01331463761-01331464497-01331468044-01331468615-01331468851- --> +<LI><A HREF="006695.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6695"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--3 01331463761-01331464497-01331468044-01331468615-01331470011- --> +<LI><A HREF="006696.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6696"> </A> +<I>Luc Menut +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01331465385- --> +<LI><A HREF="006690.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board +</A><A NAME="6690"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01331465385-01331477249- --> +<LI><A HREF="007772.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board +</A><A NAME="7772"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<!--1 01331465385-01331483113- --> +<LI><A HREF="006697.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board +</A><A NAME="6697"> </A> +<I>Marja van Waes +</I> + +<!--1 01331465385-01331499296- --> +<LI><A HREF="006698.html">[Mageia-discuss] Vote for board +</A><A NAME="6698"> </A> +<I>Patricia Fraser +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01331503150- --> +<LI><A HREF="006699.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A><A NAME="6699"> </A> +<I>WALKER RICHARD +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sun Mar 11 22:59:10 CET 2012</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:00:37 CEST 2012</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |