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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2012/3/11 Luc Menut &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lmenut at free.fr</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Le 10/03/2012 23:49, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 10.03.2012 23:46, schrieb Juan Luis Baptiste:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Right now, the splitting of the handbook packages will use the same
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bandwidth as before. As Anssi said, before the handbooks came bundled
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with the owner package, so they were also being installed. So
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bandwidth wise, is still the same as before the splitting.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I haven't looked into it, but perhaps we could install those handbooks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as Suggests instead of Requires (or is it already done that way?).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Then people wanting to save bandwidth could just install using
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;--no-suggests&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't agree. Handbooks are fully part of a kde install; they should be
+</I>&gt;<i> installed, and shouldn't be removed. A kde install without handbooks is a
+</I>&gt;<i> damaged kde install. Do you think that the kde doc team will continue to
+</I>&gt;<i> work on handbooks if each distrib don't install its work?
+</I>&gt;<i> That's why, personally I think the exact opposite; each component should
+</I>&gt;<i> *requires* its handbook (but probably it won't work with LiveCD).
+</I>
+I don't agree. You seem to first take for granted that a user of the
+KDE desktop also uses all the applications and second you mistake
+&quot;good to have&quot; for &quot;must have&quot;. I'm using KDE but only few KDE
+applications - so why do I need a handbook for kppp or knode or kmail
+when I don't even install these applications? I would happily
+de-install such handbooks as I regularly unmark grub-doc and similar
+packages from installation.
+
+In your previous reply to Juergen you also showed that you
+misunderstood his wish for Mageia documentation. It is good and
+important that documentation is available if needed. But it must not
+be forced on those who don't want/need it.
+
+I may add that I have been involved in documentation writing and
+translating for almost 7 years. But I never thought that users must
+use it if they don't need it.
+
+--
+wobo
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