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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team">rdalverny at gmail.com
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+ <I>Mon Jan 3 15:17:34 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+thanks for your message! And Happy New Year, to you and everyone here!
+
+On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 15:16, suikerstroop &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">suikerstroop at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information
+</I>&gt;<i> about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.
+</I>&gt;<i> Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with
+</I>&gt;<i> them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.
+</I>&gt;<i> Are there other dutch speaking people involved&#160;in the Mageia Marketing team.
+</I>
+I'll let the other members of the team complete.
+
+The whole Mageia thing is still in the making. From past September, we
+basically set up:
+ - the project &amp; the association
+ - the code of conduct - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/">http://mageia.org/en/about/code-of-conduct/</A>
+ - a set of values - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/about/values/">http://mageia.org/en/about/values/</A> (coordinated
+by the marketing team)
+ - the teams and how we're going to work together -
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=org</A>
+ - the logo - <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/?p=289">http://blog.mageia.org/?p=289</A>
+ - lots of discussions - (-discuss and -dev mostly for now)
+<A HREF="https://mageia.org/mailman/">https://mageia.org/mailman/</A>
+ - a first roadmap to release a first test-drive ISO -
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap</A>
+ - a set of policies - <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=policies">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=policies</A>
+ - the build system
+
+Among discussions has been especially one about &quot;users targetting&quot;, on
+-discuss and with the Marketing team. This thread for instance
+(pointing to one of my answers, which still stands):
+<A HREF="https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20101018/002460.html">https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20101018/002460.html</A>
+
+About the roadmap, we've slipped out of the initial schedule (that was
+especially to release our first alpha ISO in December). We're now
+targetting end of January for that first alpha release. Teams are
+still building themselves, especially those that will technically
+contribute to the distribution.
+
+What we can improve right now is, more interaction/integration of the
+marketing/comm' teams with the other teams of the project. At this
+time, what is on the marketing/comm team plan would be:
+ * making sure everyone is on par
+ * vision/mission docs (there were drafts produced about this, any status?)
+ * working on the first alpha release process (that is targetted to a
+very specific, small set of people)
+ * working on the next unstable release
+ * preparing the stable release (around April), after the first alpha
+(that is, understanding what it will be, and how it can be released,
+and for who, for what purpose)
+ * preparing a plan for further releases, later (with more specific
+user targets)
+
+Moreover, that's a bit out of the topic, but I wonder how we may
+integrate more marketing/communication/artwork/web teams together?
+(not make a single one, but have people gather more among those)
+
+&gt;<i> How can I donate money?
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/donate/">http://www.mageia.org/en/donate/</A>
+
+&gt;<i> How and where can I meet Mageia Marketing people in real life and not just
+</I>&gt;<i> the internet. Does the Mageia marketing team intend not only visit the
+</I>&gt;<i> FOSDEM in Brussels in February 2011, but also other kind of events.
+</I>
+Some Mageia founders (me included) and contributors will attend FOSDEM
+(see <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:fosdem2011">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:fosdem2011</A>) and expect
+to attend some other events; see
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap</A> (will be updated
+regularly). What other kind of events do you think of, for instance?
+
+&gt;<i> Does Mageia try to reach a broader user base than only (hardcore) nerds?
+</I>
+What makes you think of that? and what is your definition of
+(hardcode) nerds? :-)
+
+More seriously, Mageia as a project welcomes contributors from various
+origins, including hardcore nerds (whatever discipline they are from).
+And it aims at various types of users. But.
+
+But first, the project focus is on _contributors_, as this is what
+will make the project sustainable or not at first. This is the stage
+we are in at this time, while we are building our first release
+process, as well as the whole project, at large. &quot;Contributors&quot; is a
+small word for a large definition; see our teams on
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/">http://mageia.org/wiki/</A> .
+
+Second, the project focus will shift on use cases we can target with
+our base distribution, and what projects can derive from that. The
+goal is not to make yet another classic Linux distribution. So while
+it may produce a pretty decent Linux distribution for desktop/server
+use, it may as well produce something else from that.
+
+&gt;<i> Are there plans to open meeting points and demonstration rooms for showing
+</I>&gt;<i> people the Mageia-distribution.
+</I>
+We don't have the means to do that but local initiatives are welcome.
+
+&gt;<i> Are there plans to have a Mageia CDEES such as Ubuntu have?
+</I>
+CDEES?
+
+&gt;<i> What are the planned release cycle of Mageia? How long will
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia be supported by updates?
+</I>
+Nothing discussed/decided about this yet. I guess it will have to wait
+about the technical releases so that we can discuss/decide about this
+for the first stable release (expected around April).
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+ <B>suikerstroop</B>
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+&gt;<i> than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;
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+</I>&gt;<i> Today's Topics:
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+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Re: what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</I>&gt;<i> (Romain d'Alverny)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:17:34 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Romain d'Alverny&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: Mageia marketing team discussion list
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia marketing team
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID:
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;AANLkTintr7=bHD07g_OrJAM+MWZgX=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">w7S1dgHPYpR1-o at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> thanks for your message! And Happy New Year, to you and everyone here!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 15:16, suikerstroop &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">suikerstroop at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Are there other dutch speaking people involved?in the Mageia Marketing
+</I>&gt;<i> team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll let the other members of the team complete.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The whole Mageia thing is still in the making.
+</I>
+
+How can I play an active role in the Mageia marketing team? Is there a kind
+of meeting point?
+I would like to target not-linux users yet?
+
+Questions about the mageia-distribution:
+- What kind of desktop environment will mageia use? KDE, XFCE, GNOME,
+enlightment, LXDE
+- choice of office package -&gt; OpenOffice, LibreOffice, KOffice, Abiword and
+Gnumeric
+- choice of system management tools
+- choice of file manager -&gt; Thunar, Dolphin, Nautilus or something else
+- choice of multi media player -&gt; Totem, Xineplayer, Mplayer, Kaefine,VLC
+player
+- choice of burning software -&gt; K3B, brasero, XFburn
+ excuses for eventually mis typings.
+
+Yours sincerely,
+
+Zwikkle
+
+PS: I am not a great fan of using the following stuff:
+- Java --&gt; makes the computer slower than necessary
+- Mono --&gt; patented stuff
+- KDE --&gt; is not very stable
+- OpenOffice --&gt; because too many Java in it.
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+<PRE>Well, mageia is fork from mandriva which is will use KDE as major DE IMHO.
+For not being fans i guess all DE have they own fans. So it would be no
+problem at all. You can find in archlinux statistic for example. Major DE
+they use is KDE, it list on they package statistic. I'm on arch, ubuntu and
+mandriva. So between each distro doesn't matter which DE you use is not a
+problem. The important things is how to promote mageia so people will see it
+as a good Distro compared with the old one.
+
+On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:00 PM, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing-request at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
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+</I>&gt;<i> You can reach the person managing the list at
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+</I>&gt;<i> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
+</I>&gt;<i> than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Today's Topics:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Re: Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1 (suikerstroop)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Message: 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:10:24 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> From: suikerstroop &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">suikerstroop at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue
+</I>&gt;<i> 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Message-ID:
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;AANLkTikqunft5uwwZUhO==<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">KEYhUP0Y64aPNhz6ih-Jsg at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Today's Topics:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1. Re: what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (Romain d'Alverny)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Message: 1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:17:34 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; From: &quot;Romain d'Alverny&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; To: Mageia marketing team discussion list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia marketing team
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Message-ID:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;AANLkTintr7=bHD07g_OrJAM+MWZgX=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">w7S1dgHPYpR1-o at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; thanks for your message! And Happy New Year, to you and everyone here!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 15:16, suikerstroop &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">suikerstroop at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short
+</I>&gt;<i> information
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch
+</I>&gt;<i> with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Are there other dutch speaking people involved?in the Mageia Marketing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; team.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'll let the other members of the team complete.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The whole Mageia thing is still in the making.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How can I play an active role in the Mageia marketing team? Is there a kind
+</I>&gt;<i> of meeting point?
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to target not-linux users yet?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Questions about the mageia-distribution:
+</I>&gt;<i> - What kind of desktop environment will mageia use? KDE, XFCE, GNOME,
+</I>&gt;<i> enlightment, LXDE
+</I>&gt;<i> - choice of office package -&gt; OpenOffice, LibreOffice, KOffice, Abiword and
+</I>&gt;<i> Gnumeric
+</I>&gt;<i> - choice of system management tools
+</I>&gt;<i> - choice of file manager -&gt; Thunar, Dolphin, Nautilus or something else
+</I>&gt;<i> - choice of multi media player -&gt; Totem, Xineplayer, Mplayer, Kaefine,VLC
+</I>&gt;<i> player
+</I>&gt;<i> - choice of burning software -&gt; K3B, brasero, XFburn
+</I>&gt;<i> excuses for eventually mis typings.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yours sincerely,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Zwikkle
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: I am not a great fan of using the following stuff:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Java --&gt; makes the computer slower than necessary
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mono --&gt; patented stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> - KDE --&gt; is not very stable
+</I>&gt;<i> - OpenOffice --&gt; because too many Java in it.
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 18:10, suikerstroop &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">suikerstroop at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
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+;-)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; 1. Re: what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160;(Romain d'Alverny)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How can I play an active role in the Mageia marketing team? Is there a kind
+</I>&gt;<i> of meeting point?
+</I>
+Here and <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom">irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom</A> - but again, the team
+is not very active yet.
+
+&gt;<i> I would like to target not-linux users yet?
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Questions about the mageia-distribution:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>
+At least KDE and GNOME. You may want to follow discussion on -discuss
+and here to see progress on these topics.
+
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+happy new year to everyone. I wish you all the best!
+
+This mail for four things:
+ 1. I guess there's not much activity in the marketing area; since
+several weeks; what's your diagnostic about that?
+ 2. shall we hold an IRC meeting next week (if possible between 9:00
+and 15:00 UTC) on irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom to:
+ * know where we are (see 1.);
+ * continue from there;
+ * start discussing the website contents/editorial structure;
+ * start thinking about the distribution release that will start
+with a very technical alpha this month; (so that we can discuss this
+too on -discuss);
+ * think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+ 3. we did not yet launch the communication team (willing contributors
+here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication</A> ); I wonder if
+we wouldn't better merge both teams (marketing+communication) to have
+those two especially in sync (as well as with an effort to sync with
+artwork &amp; some web devs);
+ 4. who will be at FOSDEM in February? (5-6, in Brussels)
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> happy new year to everyone. I wish you all the best!
+</I>
+thank you, to you too : )
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This mail for four things:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. I guess there's not much activity in the marketing area; since
+</I>&gt;<i> several weeks; what's your diagnostic about that?
+</I>
+i think this is somehow due to the lack in this period of our leader, graham
+laudrer. it seems we have no idea about the work to do
+
+&gt;<i> 2. shall we hold an IRC meeting next week (if possible between 9:00
+</I>&gt;<i> and 15:00 UTC) on irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom to:
+</I>&gt;<i> * know where we are (see 1.);
+</I>&gt;<i> * continue from there;
+</I>&gt;<i> * start discussing the website contents/editorial structure;
+</I>&gt;<i> * start thinking about the distribution release that will start
+</I>&gt;<i> with a very technical alpha this month; (so that we can discuss this
+</I>&gt;<i> too on -discuss);
+</I>&gt;<i> * think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+</I>
+for me is it ok... when would you like to organize it?
+&gt;<i> 3. we did not yet launch the communication team (willing contributors
+</I>&gt;<i> here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication</A> ); I wonder if
+</I>&gt;<i> we wouldn't better merge both teams (marketing+communication) to have
+</I>&gt;<i> those two especially in sync (as well as with an effort to sync with
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork &amp; some web devs);
+</I>
+exactely, i don't see any reason to merge these two groups (many tasks similar
+and need a deep coordination between them
+
+&gt;<i> 4. who will be at FOSDEM in February? (5-6, in Brussels)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>i can't : )
+
+&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+Cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> happy new year to everyone. I wish you all the best!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> thank you, to you too : )
+</I>
+Happy new year to all !
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> This mail for four things:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. I guess there's not much activity in the marketing area; since
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> several weeks; what's your diagnostic about that?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i think this is somehow due to the lack in this period of our leader, graham
+</I>&gt;<i> laudrer. it seems we have no idea about the work to do
+</I>
+I think we all have to reload the machine, and go on with 2011. :)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 2. shall we hold an IRC meeting next week (if possible between 9:00
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and 15:00 UTC) on irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom to:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * know where we are (see 1.);
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * continue from there;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * start discussing the website contents/editorial structure;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * start thinking about the distribution release that will start
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with a very technical alpha this month; (so that we can discuss this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> too on -discuss);
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> for me is it ok... when would you like to organize it?
+</I>
+Will there be enough people available between 9.00 and 15.00 ?
+(I won't)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 3. we did not yet launch the communication team (willing contributors
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication</A> ); I wonder if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we wouldn't better merge both teams (marketing+communication) to have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> those two especially in sync (as well as with an effort to sync with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> artwork&amp; some web devs);
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> exactely, i don't see any reason to merge these two groups (many tasks similar
+</I>&gt;<i> and need a deep coordination between them
+</I>
+I think it's possible (even recommanded) to merge these two teams
+because many tasks of each of the two teams are bound or have an shared
+interest.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 4. who will be at FOSDEM in February? (5-6, in Brussels)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i can't : )
+</I>
+Me ! :)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcello
+</I>
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+<PRE>On Saturday 08 January 2011 05:57:05 Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> happy new year to everyone. I wish you all the best!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This mail for four things:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. I guess there's not much activity in the marketing area; since
+</I>&gt;<i> several weeks; what's your diagnostic about that?
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. shall we hold an IRC meeting next week (if possible between 9:00
+</I>&gt;<i> and 15:00 UTC) on irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom to:
+</I>&gt;<i> * know where we are (see 1.);
+</I>&gt;<i> * continue from there;
+</I>&gt;<i> * start discussing the website contents/editorial structure;
+</I>&gt;<i> * start thinking about the distribution release that will start
+</I>&gt;<i> with a very technical alpha this month; (so that we can discuss this
+</I>&gt;<i> too on -discuss);
+</I>&gt;<i> * think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. we did not yet launch the communication team (willing contributors
+</I>&gt;<i> here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication</A> ); I wonder if
+</I>&gt;<i> we wouldn't better merge both teams (marketing+communication) to have
+</I>&gt;<i> those two especially in sync (as well as with an effort to sync with
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork &amp; some web devs);
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. who will be at FOSDEM in February? (5-6, in Brussels)
+</I>
+Apologies all, my earlier positive claims about my return were rather
+premature and after weeks of Physio I am at last getting back the use of my
+hand. My wife is restricting my computer time savagely because holding onto a
+mouse for any length of time results in my hand seizing up followed by 15
+minutes or so of painful stretching and exercises. It appears we don't repair
+as easily as we once did when we had fewer wrinkles and grey hairs.
+
+On the upside my physio recommended kneading dough as a good therapuetic
+exercise so I've become a dab hand at making bread, this week I'm moving on to
+pizza dough.
+
+The good news is that all of the above has been doing the deed and I'm well on
+the way to full recovery. I'm now &quot;allowed&quot; three 30 minute stretches at the
+keyboard per day, a vast improvement since before xmas and I should be back to
+full function within a week or two and I shall start annoying everyone again.
+
+Cheers
+GL
+
+
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+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
+Graham Lauder,
+OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
+<A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A>
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+Le 2011-01-07 16:22, Graham Lauder a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Saturday 08 January 2011 05:57:05 Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> happy new year to everyone. I wish you all the best!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This mail for four things:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. I guess there's not much activity in the marketing area; since
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> several weeks; what's your diagnostic about that?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. shall we hold an IRC meeting next week (if possible between 9:00
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and 15:00 UTC) on irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom to:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * know where we are (see 1.);
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * continue from there;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * start discussing the website contents/editorial structure;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * start thinking about the distribution release that will start
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with a very technical alpha this month; (so that we can discuss this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> too on -discuss);
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3. we did not yet launch the communication team (willing contributors
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication</A> ); I wonder if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we wouldn't better merge both teams (marketing+communication) to have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> those two especially in sync (as well as with an effort to sync with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> artwork&amp; some web devs);
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 4. who will be at FOSDEM in February? (5-6, in Brussels)
+</I>&gt;<i> Apologies all, my earlier positive claims about my return were rather
+</I>&gt;<i> premature and after weeks of Physio I am at last getting back the use of my
+</I>&gt;<i> hand. My wife is restricting my computer time savagely because holding onto a
+</I>&gt;<i> mouse for any length of time results in my hand seizing up followed by 15
+</I>&gt;<i> minutes or so of painful stretching and exercises. It appears we don't repair
+</I>&gt;<i> as easily as we once did when we had fewer wrinkles and grey hairs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On the upside my physio recommended kneading dough as a good therapuetic
+</I>&gt;<i> exercise so I've become a dab hand at making bread, this week I'm moving on to
+</I>&gt;<i> pizza dough.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The good news is that all of the above has been doing the deed and I'm well on
+</I>&gt;<i> the way to full recovery. I'm now &quot;allowed&quot; three 30 minute stretches at the
+</I>&gt;<i> keyboard per day, a vast improvement since before xmas and I should be back to
+</I>&gt;<i> full function within a week or two and I shall start annoying everyone again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> GL
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Nice to hear from you again. I was wondering where you had disappeared
+and thought that you had perhaps come into a vast amount of money and
+decided to retire in the splendour of bliss somewhere on earth. Some
+people actually equate the making of bread as this, so, in a way, you
+are already there.
+
+All the very best with your health and nice to have you back.
+
+Cheers
+
+Marc
+
+--
+Marc Par&#233;
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+&gt;<i> &gt; happy new year to everyone. I wish you all the best!
+</I>
+From me to all, also!
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; This mail for four things:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1. I guess there's not much activity in the marketing area; since
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; several weeks; what's your diagnostic about that?
+</I>
+I think it might be a good time to revisit what the project as a
+whole (founders, devels, everyone) wants from its marketing team -
+seems like we had a bit of divergence there, and it would be good to
+bring that back together.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; 2. shall we hold an IRC meeting next week (if possible between
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 9:00 and 15:00 UTC) on irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom to:
+</I>
+Fine for me - any day is ok. Is this also a good time for Graham
+or any other Antipodeans?
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; 3. we did not yet launch the communication team (willing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; contributors here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication</A> ); I wonder if
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; we wouldn't better merge both teams (marketing+communication) to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have those two especially in sync (as well as with an effort to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sync with artwork &amp; some web devs);
+</I>
+I think marketing and communication belong together! let's go for it.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; 4. who will be at FOSDEM in February? (5-6, in Brussels)
+</I>
+I wish. Next one I'll be better organised - but, what do people need
+to have ready, that we can/should be doing? And, can we maybe work up
+a calendar of events, so we can be ready for them?
+
+Cheers!
+
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+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
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+<PRE>On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 22:22, Graham Lauder &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">yorick_ at openoffice.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On the upside my physio recommended kneading dough as a good therapuetic
+</I>&gt;<i> exercise so I've become a dab hand at making bread, this week I'm moving on to
+</I>&gt;<i> pizza dough.
+</I>
+Yum.
+
+&gt;<i> The good news is that all of the above has been doing the deed and I'm well on
+</I>&gt;<i> the way to full recovery. &#160;I'm now &quot;allowed&quot; three 30 minute stretches at the
+</I>&gt;<i> keyboard per day, a vast improvement since before xmas and I should be back to
+</I>&gt;<i> full function within a week or two and I shall start annoying everyone again.
+</I>
+:<i>) Nice to hear from you again!
+</I>
+
+On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 16:13, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;1. I guess there's not much activity in the marketing area; since
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; several weeks; what's your diagnostic about that?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it might be a good time to revisit what the project as a
+</I>&gt;<i> whole (founders, devels, everyone) wants from its marketing team -
+</I>&gt;<i> seems like we had a bit of divergence there, and it would be good to
+</I>&gt;<i> bring that back together.
+</I>
+Yes. Actually, it seems that my refocus points [1] made things stop
+somehow? We slipped out of schedule (first alpha is for this month and
+we're headed for FOSDEM) and several events made things slower. The
+divergence is still in some heads I guess and it needs to be precised.
+
+I can't speak for other founders; my point of view is that the
+desirable marketing design effort in Mageia is not to target what
+exists but in suggesting new stuff (products, technology, use-cases)
+from what we can achieve already. That's easier said than done of
+course. And that's not predictable at all. That's the point: working
+for a Linux distribution project community, but to prepare a way for
+something else/more than the desktop/laptop/tablet/server OS thing.
+
+So that requires first to see/understand what we can achieve as a
+community. So that needs to focus first on contributors as they will
+make the project go a long way, or not. Who are they? What do they do?
+Why? What for? Who knows about that and who should be told about it?
+[2]
+
+As long as we did not ship of very first stable release, we can not
+aim to specific (known or unknown) use cases (reminding a discussion
+about this a few months ago).
+
+Said more shortly, if we are to release Mageia 1 around April/May,
+that will be a pretty generic LInux distribution platofmr, some more
+specific packaging/release could be discussed then, but not
+(officially) released before Mageia 2 (or it would be community
+derivatives, but this could precisely to be coordinated in some way so
+it gets full support later).
+
+[1] second/last part of
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20101018/002460.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20101018/002460.html</A>
+
+[2] that's a very shared concern with the communication team tasks, so
+that's the reason of my point below, actually. Having the two teams
+mix and work together to forge the communication strategy of the
+project, toward itself first, toward outside followers, and then, when
+we ship something, to its potential users.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;2. shall we hold an IRC meeting next week (if possible between
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 9:00 and 15:00 UTC) on irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom to:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Fine for me - any day is ok. Is this also a good time for Graham
+</I>&gt;<i> or any other Antipodeans?
+</I>
+Say, Thursday between 9:00 and 17:00 UTC (10 and 18 Paris time). I
+know Graham is more available early in the morning and some others are
+more available at the end of the day. Or we may hold two meetings.
+
+Please update your line here:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time</A> so
+we get an idea of everyone's availability. That will help to set a
+time where most people can be there, or to know how to split in two
+meetings if needed.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;3. we did not yet launch the communication team (willing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; contributors here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication</A> ); I wonder if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; we wouldn't better merge both teams (marketing+communication) to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; have those two especially in sync (as well as with an effort to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; sync with artwork &amp; some web devs);
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think marketing and communication belong together! let's go for it.
+</I>
+I believe it could help point 1. too, leaving some time to work on the
+project self-representation and communication to the outside (working
+on this effort then) and then looking forward on the prospective
+marketing side of things (by that, I mean, call to projects,
+prototypes, metrics usage, design, etc.).
+
+But that's really up to you as a team (and communication volunteers I
+will mail) to say if it's a good plan or not. That's an open point.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;4. who will be at FOSDEM in February? (5-6, in Brussels)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wish. Next one I'll be better organised - but, what do people need
+</I>&gt;<i> to have ready, that we can/should be doing? And, can we maybe work up
+</I>&gt;<i> a calendar of events, so we can be ready for them?
+</I>
+We will have some stickers and t-shirts already (Damien and Caroline
+are working on this). Misc is planning a talk about the fork, its
+organisation and some issues we faced. And we expect to hold a lot of
+bee^informal meetings.
+
+As for a calendar, Oliver Burger is working on checking the technical
+solution and we should have a running one in the next few weeks. In
+the meantime, a rough calendar of events (can be updated) is available
+from <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap</A> .
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>As a dutch (kandidate) member of the Mageia marketing member team,
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+according to <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time</A>
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+&gt;<i> Ahoy!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> according to
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> we're still 3 to have put our time preferences and that would make
+</I>&gt;<i> a meeting between 15 and 18 UTC (Thursday?).
+</I>
+Done!
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+<PRE>2011/1/10 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ahoy!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> according to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we're still 3 to have put our time preferences and that would make
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a meeting between 15 and 18 UTC (Thursday?).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Done!
+</I>
+Done
+
+May I remark that international i18n meetings are Thursdays 19:00 UTC,
+may be that some people are in both teams (Marcello? wobo)
+My weekly meeting schedule gets crowded anyway and I'm sure there are
+others with the same problem :)
+
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+wobo
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> 2011/1/10 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Ahoy!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; according to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; we're still 3 to have put our time preferences and that would make
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; a meeting between 15 and 18 UTC (Thursday?).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Done!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Done
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> May I remark that international i18n meetings are Thursdays 19:00 UTC,
+</I>&gt;<i> may be that some people are in both teams (Marcello? wobo)
+</I>&gt;<i> My weekly meeting schedule gets crowded anyway and I'm sure there are
+</I>&gt;<i> others with the same problem :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>
+you're right : ) for me it is ok for 20:00 UTC then (a long-term chat meeting
+:<i> )
+</I>
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+cheers,
+Marcello
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+
+There's a need for more native English speakers with good language
+skills to join the i18n team, to translate/proof/correct English
+translations done by non-native speakers, or to translate docs &amp;c
+from any and all languages.
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+If you'd like to join the i18n team (all these things seem to go
+together - marketing, comms, documentation and i18n which is why
+this email is here), please add yourself here:
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+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=translators">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=translators</A>
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+and join the i18n mailing list by sending a mail to
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+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">mageia-i18n-request at mageia.org</A>
+
+with the subject subscribe.
+
+We need to have at least two people so the i18n-en team can have a
+leader and a substitute 8-). More would be great!
+
+Cheers!
+
+--
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+ok, my bad, I didn't gather everyone here again before past Thursday,
+so trying once more.
+
+Given answers in the time table on the marketing wiki page, I will
+call for a IRC meeting on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom">irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom</A> on Thursday
+January 20th at 16:00 UTC (sorry for those that can't at this time, we
+may find a better time for later meetings).
+
+So, to discuss what? back to the above topics:
+ - marketing/communication teams merge, collaboration _and_ setup
+(having a set of temporary first contact/representative/leaders for
+the team, to animate and manage it)
+ - team(s) roadmap
+ - start discussing web editorial strategy
+ - start discussing about alpha release management later this month
+ - think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+ - discuss coming FOSDEM if people want
+ - other topic?
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+Cheers!
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+&gt;<i> Given answers in the time table on the marketing wiki page, I will
+</I>&gt;<i> call for a IRC meeting on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom">irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom</A> on Thursday
+</I>&gt;<i> January 20th at 16:00 UTC (sorry for those that can't at this time, we
+</I>&gt;<i> may find a better time for later meetings).
+</I>
+That is to say, on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom">irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom</A> (thanks to
+tallship for noticing).
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+Cheers!
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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+Romain,
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+That will work for me just fine. I'll see you then, and in the
+meantime, if anyone needs to get a hold of me you can email me or find
+me idling in #mageia-marcom.
+
+Real quick, and just to clarify. You did mean 16:00hrs UTC in
+#mageia-marcom on Freenode - not simply #marcom... correct?
+
+On 01/17/2011 01:40 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
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+&gt;<i> ...I will
+</I>&gt;<i> call for a IRC meeting on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom">irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom</A> on Thursday
+</I>&gt;<i> January 20th at 16:00 UTC
+</I>
+Kindest regards,
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+ <B>Marcello Anni</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ok, my bad, I didn't gather everyone here again before past Thursday,
+</I>&gt;<i> so trying once more.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Given answers in the time table on the marketing wiki page, I will
+</I>&gt;<i> call for a IRC meeting on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom">irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom</A> on Thursday
+</I>&gt;<i> January 20th at 16:00 UTC (sorry for those that can't at this time, we
+</I>&gt;<i> may find a better time for later meetings).
+</I>
+can't it be delayed one day? the 20th january i have an exam and i can't
+attend the chat session... if it is no possible i'll let you some ideas to
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+On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 19:52, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Given answers in the time table on the marketing wiki page, I will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> call for a IRC meeting on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom">irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom</A> on Thursday
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> January 20th at 16:00 UTC (sorry for those that can't at this time, we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> may find a better time for later meetings).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> can't it be delayed one day? the 20th january i have an exam and i can't
+</I>&gt;<i> attend the chat session...
+</I>
+We can discuss another time for another meeting but I really want to
+start this one asap, so I prefer to stick to Thursday.
+
+&gt;<i> if it is no possible i'll let you some ideas to
+</I>&gt;<i> discuss there
+</I>
+Please do then and good luck with your exam! :)
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+Well i write here because i don tknow to who i shuld speak this. Here at
+Mexico, in fevrier, it will take place Enli 2011 www.enli.org.mx
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+I got a conferece to present mageia. I wonder if someone has an already
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+On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 05:53, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Well i write here because i don tknow to who i shuld speak this. &#160;Here at
+</I>&gt;<i> Mexico, in &#160;fevrier, it will take place Enli 2011 www.enli.org.mx
+</I>
+Here's a good place.
+
+&gt;<i> I got a conferece to present mageia. &#160;I wonder if someone has an already
+</I>&gt;<i> presentation i may translate to spanish to explain people what is mageia,
+</I>&gt;<i> whata are diferences between other distros, and mainly with mandriva. &#160;what is
+</I>&gt;<i> our work and what do they can expect. &#160;1 hour of speaking.
+</I>
+Wow, that's lot! :-)
+
+Several of us are going to FOSDEM (5/6 Feb) and have first
+presentations there, we can share the presentation material here
+after, and build from that; I already did a quick one for a small
+group several weeks ago, but the slides/discourse have to be revised.
+
+Shall we discuss briefly about this at the meeting? (today, 15:00 UTC
+on #mageia-marcom on Freenode).
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+Romain
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 05:53, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I got a conferece to present mageia. &#160;I wonder if someone has an already
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> presentation i may translate to spanish to explain people what is mageia,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whata are diferences between other distros, and mainly with mandriva. &#160;what is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> our work and what do they can expect. &#160;1 hour of speaking.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wow, that's lot! :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Several of us are going to FOSDEM (5/6 Feb) and have first
+</I>&gt;<i> presentations there, we can share the presentation material here
+</I>&gt;<i> after, and build from that; I already did a quick one for a small
+</I>&gt;<i> group several weeks ago, but the slides/discourse have to be revised.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shall we discuss briefly about this at the meeting? (today, 15:00 UTC
+</I>&gt;<i> on #mageia-marcom on Freenode).
+</I>
+These opportunities will come to many of us.
+I will also have a conference slot of 1 hour for Mageia in Chemnitz,
+Germany in March.
+
+So, a small presentation, common for all, would be a good idea.
+ - a speaker at a conference can use it as the basis of his presentation
+ - add audio in your language and you can run it on a monitor at
+stands, working as eye-catcher
+ - add audio in your language and upload it to YouTube
+ - integrate the video on local Mageia websites
+ - more
+
+We can use the points of the &quot;Values&quot; page for a start.
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+--
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shall we discuss briefly about this at the meeting? (today, 15:00 UTC
+</I>&gt;<i> on #mageia-marcom on Freenode).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+The meeting is at 16:00 UTC.
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 22:40, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> ok, my bad, I didn't gather everyone here again before past Thursday,
+</I>&gt;<i> so trying once more.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Given answers in the time table on the marketing wiki page, I will
+</I>&gt;<i> call for a IRC meeting on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom">irc://irc.freenode.net/#marcom</A> on Thursday
+</I>&gt;<i> January 20th at 16:00 UTC (sorry for those that can't at this time, we
+</I>&gt;<i> may find a better time for later meetings).
+</I>
+Here are the notes:
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2011/mageia-marcom.2011-01-20-16.04.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2011/mageia-marcom.2011-01-20-16.04.html</A>
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+We reduced the topics to team setup, roadmaps, alpha release and
+marcom roadmap (more comm' than market maybe).
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+Hope to see you more next week! :-p (or find a better time again).
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+Cheers!
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+<PRE>2011/1/20 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here are the notes:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2011/mageia-marcom.2011-01-20-16.04.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2011/mageia-marcom.2011-01-20-16.04.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We reduced the topics to team setup, roadmaps, alpha release and
+</I>&gt;<i> marcom roadmap (more comm' than market maybe).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hope to see you more next week! :-p (or find a better time again).
+</I>
+An appointment took longer than expected, sorry.
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+I just posted several taglines in the #mageia-marcom chan. just
+brainstorming really, throwing ideas out there surrounding the play on
+words stemming from the etymology of our distro's name.
+
+Also, I address what I believe to be real significance in the Enli
+conference on 23/24/25 Feb 2kxi
+
+I invite, and indeed encourage, everyone to check the logs there for
+what I hope you will agree is very pertinent information regarding the
+adoption of our distro in Latin American, and what it will do for Mageia.
+
+I'm sorry, but I don't have a link to the channel logs. Only the meeting
+logs and my chan posts follow immediately after the meeting.
+
+BTW: The chan topic should prolly now be changed to reflect the
+forthcoming date of 27 Jan 2kxi, fyi ;)
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+I had an all nighter onsite service call due to a client foopah, so
+couldn't make it back to my irc client in time for the meeting early
+this morning, but have read the entire transcript and also the abridged
+minutes from the meetbot, so I'm up to speed on everything covered in
+the meeting.
+
+See you next week :)
+
+- -tallship-
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+On 01/20/2011 02:43 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 05:53, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well i write here because i don tknow to who i shuld speak this. Here at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mexico, in fevrier, it will take place Enli 2011 www.enli.org.mx
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here's a good place.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I got a conferece to present mageia. I wonder if someone has an already
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> presentation i may translate to spanish to explain people what is mageia,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whata are diferences between other distros, and mainly with mandriva. what is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> our work and what do they can expect. 1 hour of speaking.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wow, that's lot! :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Several of us are going to FOSDEM (5/6 Feb) and have first
+</I>&gt;<i> presentations there, we can share the presentation material here
+</I>&gt;<i> after, and build from that; I already did a quick one for a small
+</I>&gt;<i> group several weeks ago, but the slides/discourse have to be revised.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shall we discuss briefly about this at the meeting? (today, 15:00 UTC
+</I>&gt;<i> on #mageia-marcom on Freenode).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 20 janvier 2011 14:23:09, Bradley D. Thornton a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I just posted several taglines in the #mageia-marcom chan. just
+</I>&gt;<i> brainstorming really, throwing ideas out there surrounding the play on
+</I>&gt;<i> words stemming from the etymology of our distro's name.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, I address what I believe to be real significance in the Enli
+</I>&gt;<i> conference on 23/24/25 Feb 2kxi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I invite, and indeed encourage, everyone to check the logs there for
+</I>&gt;<i> what I hope you will agree is very pertinent information regarding the
+</I>&gt;<i> adoption of our distro in Latin American, and what it will do for Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm sorry, but I don't have a link to the channel logs. Only the meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> logs and my chan posts follow immediately after the meeting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW: The chan topic should prolly now be changed to reflect the
+</I>&gt;<i> forthcoming date of 27 Jan 2kxi, fyi ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I had an all nighter onsite service call due to a client foopah, so
+</I>&gt;<i> couldn't make it back to my irc client in time for the meeting early
+</I>&gt;<i> this morning, but have read the entire transcript and also the abridged
+</I>&gt;<i> minutes from the meetbot, so I'm up to speed on everything covered in
+</I>&gt;<i> the meeting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See you next week :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -tallship-
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 01/20/2011 02:43 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 05:53, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Well i write here because i don tknow to who i shuld speak this. Here
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; at Mexico, in fevrier, it will take place Enli 2011 www.enli.org.mx
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Here's a good place.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I got a conferece to present mageia. I wonder if someone has an already
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; presentation i may translate to spanish to explain people what is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; mageia, whata are diferences between other distros, and mainly with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; mandriva. what is our work and what do they can expect. 1 hour of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; speaking.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Wow, that's lot! :-)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Several of us are going to FOSDEM (5/6 Feb) and have first
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; presentations there, we can share the presentation material here
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; after, and build from that; I already did a quick one for a small
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; group several weeks ago, but the slides/discourse have to be revised.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Shall we discuss briefly about this at the meeting? (today, 15:00 UTC
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on #mageia-marcom on Freenode).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
+Where are logs, sorry i couldnt get into conference i was driving.
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+&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+</I>&gt;<i> I just posted several taglines in the #mageia-marcom chan. just
+</I>&gt;<i> brainstorming really, throwing ideas out there surrounding the play on
+</I>&gt;<i> words stemming from the etymology of our distro's name.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, I address what I believe to be real significance in the Enli
+</I>&gt;<i> conference on 23/24/25 Feb 2kxi
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+</I>&gt;<i> I invite, and indeed encourage, everyone to check the logs there for
+</I>&gt;<i> what I hope you will agree is very pertinent information regarding the
+</I>&gt;<i> adoption of our distro in Latin American, and what it will do for Mageia.
+</I>
+It is not a good idea to post something you want to use later to an
+IRC channel (outside of the logged meetings). If nobody has logged the
+channel by chance your ideas are lost. Such things should be better
+posted in the mailing list for future refference.
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+<PRE>Hi all,
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+&gt;<i> Here are the notes:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2011/mageia-marcom.2011-01-20-16.04.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-marcom/2011/mageia-marcom.2011-01-20-16.04.html</A>
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+Thanks to everyone who did all this! Sorry I couldn't be there - an
+hour either side and I would have been fine.
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+&gt;<i> We reduced the topics to team setup, roadmaps, alpha release and
+</I>&gt;<i> marcom roadmap (more comm' than market maybe).
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+Next week for sure (can we move it an hour either way?). See you on
+the wiki!
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+Cheers,
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+<PRE>On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 06:52, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Next week for sure (can we move it an hour either way?). See you on
+</I>&gt;<i> the wiki!
+</I>
+Sure, we can. (And I prefer). Next Thursday 15 UTC or 17 UTC?
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+problem as soon as the team gets a running pace and gets someone to
+represent it to the Council - any time and especially at the meeting
+on Mondays evening).
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+Plus, we may try to stick to the list to follow progress. Threads coming in.
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 06:52, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Next week for sure (can we move it an hour either way?). See you on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the wiki!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sure, we can. (And I prefer). Next Thursday 15 UTC or 17 UTC?
+</I>
+17:00 UTC may be too close to the i18n meeting, starting at 19:00 UTC.
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Next week for sure (can we move it an hour either way?). See you on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the wiki!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sure, we can. (And I prefer). Next Thursday 15 UTC or 17 UTC?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 17:00 UTC may be too close to the i18n meeting, starting at 19:00 UTC.
+</I>
+It's not too late for me - I'd like to do both meetings, so anything up to
+1800 UTC is fine. It's also good to have an inescapable end time 8-).
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+Cheers,
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+Patricia
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 20 janvier 2011 16:20:38, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2011/1/20 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I just posted several taglines in the #mageia-marcom chan. just
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; brainstorming really, throwing ideas out there surrounding the play on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; words stemming from the etymology of our distro's name.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Also, I address what I believe to be real significance in the Enli
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; conference on 23/24/25 Feb 2kxi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I invite, and indeed encourage, everyone to check the logs there for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; what I hope you will agree is very pertinent information regarding the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; adoption of our distro in Latin American, and what it will do for Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is not a good idea to post something you want to use later to an
+</I>&gt;<i> IRC channel (outside of the logged meetings). If nobody has logged the
+</I>&gt;<i> channel by chance your ideas are lost. Such things should be better
+</I>&gt;<i> posted in the mailing list for future refference.
+</I>
+Yes, can you rewrite them here?
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+<PRE>hi there,
+i give you some proposals to discuss in the next meeting (next thursday for me
+it's ok):
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, to discuss what? back to the above topics:
+</I>&gt;<i> - marketing/communication teams merge, collaboration _and_ setup
+</I>&gt;<i> (having a set of temporary first contact/representative/leaders for
+</I>&gt;<i> the team, to animate and manage it)
+</I>&gt;<i> - team(s) roadmap
+</I>&gt;<i> - start discussing web editorial strategy
+</I> - easy translation system of every websites (to be decided together with
+i18n-list)
+&gt;<i> - start discussing about alpha release management later this month
+</I>&gt;<i> - think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+</I>&gt;<i> - discuss coming FOSDEM if people want
+</I>&gt;<i> - other topic?
+</I>- coming back to marketing strategy:
+ * vision creation
+ * mission creation
+ * slogan creation
+
+- start thinking to every means useful to promote mageia (youtube promotional
+videos, demonstration videos, creation of a well-organized wikipedia page
+etc..)
+
+- start thinking to a mageia version of mandriva-ideas page (to be renewed and
+improved)
+
+- status of web-services (+ldap implementation)-&gt;useful to a good brand and
+product promotion
+
+- election of a vice-leader (useful until graham will come back)
+
+- artwork status
+
+- necessary means to be in touch with other teams
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+Wow.
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+Okay, it was just a couple of ideas I was throwing up in the air, but so
+everyone can have an opportunity to see... here ya go :)
+
+&lt;tallship&gt; flood coming...
+&lt;tallship&gt; We are a major point of call for the Free Software community
+in Mexico, Latin America and the world. Adem&#225;s de ser un lugar de
+acercamiento de nuevas personas al mundo fascinante de Linux y el Sw
+Libre, tambi&#233;n ofrecemos un espacio de participaci&#243;n en la b&#250;squeda de
+ideas y proyectos innovadores que consoliden al Software Libre como una
+herramienta de vanguardia para empresas, desarrolladores, estudiantes,
+profesores y p
+&lt;tallship&gt; ersonas involucradas con el uso, difusi&#243;n y desarrollo de
+software. Besides being a place to approach new people to the
+fascinating world of Linux and Free Sw also offer a forum for
+participation in the search for innovative ideas and projects that
+strengthen the Free Software as a cutting-edge tool for businesses,
+developers, students , teachers and people involved with the use,
+dissemination and development of software.
+&lt;tallship&gt; in terms of numbers of attendees, it may not seem all that
+significant, but the speakers list typically looks like a who's who of
+FOSS and other ares of the industry with some big players.
+&lt;tallship&gt; They expect about 750 attendees, yet the media coverage is
+going to be significant.
+&lt;tallship&gt; He's got an hour - that's a long time. He's going to need a
+translated version of the slide show, and perhaps a demonstration w/a
+[hopefully] new look to some of the tools intrinsic to Mandrake/Mandriva
+as they are incarnated in Mageia would be a good thing.
+&lt;tallship&gt; I think it's perfect timing wrt our Alpha release - it will
+have occurred.
+&lt;tallship&gt; I think it's an even better date since we will have our
+first, maybe second alpha out w/our April 2kx1 release on schedule, and
+be able to tout this to the media at the conference.
+&lt;tallship&gt; 23, 24, and 25 February 2011 are the dates.
+&lt;tallship&gt; I think that what is most important, is that we have
+representation in attendance with a speaker (1hr - that's great!). This
+convention goes a long way toward how the waters flow in Mexico and
+South America.
+&lt;tallship&gt; Such adoption is critical in those parts of the world where
+specialized regional Linux Distributions have been the predominant
+distros for a few years now.
+&lt;tallship&gt; A truly global Linux Distro - i.e., Mageia - translates into
+easy integration and operability in multi-national companies (and
+universities adopting its usage does this too).
+&lt;tallship&gt; If we can make a big splash in Latin America, this also
+results in assimilation of the technology (meaning, the Mageia Linux
+distro) further north in the United States where there are (you fill in
+the blank here) xxxx million Spanish speaking citizens, residents, and
+students in the potential user base.
+&lt;tallship&gt; On another note: as far as slogans, one liners, I've got a
+few ideas stemming from the etymology of the word 'Mageia'...
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;Mageia! It's Like Magic!
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;The Magic of Mageia&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;Wield the Magic in Mageia&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;There's Magic in Mageia&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;It's all in the magic. Mageia Linux&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;Harness the Magic of Linux with Mageia&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;Mageia - It's Magic in the Enterprise&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;The Magic of Mageia&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;Mageia Magic - at home in the Enterprise&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;Mageia! It's Magic!&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;Unleash the Magic of Mageia&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;The Magic of Mageia&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; &quot;Mageia. It's Magic&quot;
+&lt;tallship&gt; you get the idea ;)
+* tallship is afk
+
+On 01/21/2011 07:40 AM, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 20 janvier 2011 16:20:38, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/1/20 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just posted several taglines in the #mageia-marcom chan. just
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> brainstorming really, throwing ideas out there surrounding the play on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> words stemming from the etymology of our distro's name.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Also, I address what I believe to be real significance in the Enli
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> conference on 23/24/25 Feb 2kxi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I invite, and indeed encourage, everyone to check the logs there for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> what I hope you will agree is very pertinent information regarding the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> adoption of our distro in Latin American, and what it will do for Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is not a good idea to post something you want to use later to an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IRC channel (outside of the logged meetings). If nobody has logged the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> channel by chance your ideas are lost. Such things should be better
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> posted in the mailing list for future refference.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, can you rewrite them here?
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
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+I would prefer 17:00hrs UTC (18:00hrs would be even better).
+
+On 01/21/2011 01:06 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 06:52, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Next week for sure (can we move it an hour either way?). See you on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the wiki!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sure, we can. (And I prefer). Next Thursday 15 UTC or 17 UTC?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (I won't be able to attend any day past 18:00 UTC, but that's not a
+</I>&gt;<i> problem as soon as the team gets a running pace and gets someone to
+</I>&gt;<i> represent it to the Council - any time and especially at the meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> on Mondays evening).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Plus, we may try to stick to the list to follow progress. Threads coming in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 16:44, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> i give you some proposals to discuss in the next meeting (next thursday for me
+</I>&gt;<i> it's ok):
+</I>
+Actually, the more we go further, the more I'd like we try to get rid
+of meetings (or use them sparringly just for quick votes on decisions
+layed out on the list before with stakeholders) and get the team
+driven by actions and deadlines, using the list as a common meeting
+point.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- marketing/communication teams merge, collaboration _and_ setup
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (having a set of temporary first contact/representative/leaders for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the team, to animate and manage it)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- team(s) roadmap
+</I>
+See the meeting logs about this.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- start discussing web editorial strategy
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;- easy translation system of every websites (to be decided together with
+</I>&gt;<i> i18n-list)
+</I>
+Discussing on i18n started it seems :-)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- start discussing about alpha release management later this month
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- discuss coming FOSDEM if people want
+</I>
+See the above meeting notes too.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- other topic?
+</I>&gt;<i> - coming back to marketing strategy:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* vision creation
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* mission creation
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* slogan creation
+</I>
+Some work was started in this regard and it may be usesul to start it over.
+
+&gt;<i> - start thinking to every means useful to promote mageia (youtube promotional
+</I>&gt;<i> videos, demonstration videos, creation of a well-organized wikipedia page
+</I>&gt;<i> etc..)
+</I>
+Yep.
+
+&gt;<i> - start thinking to a mageia version of mandriva-ideas page (to be renewed and
+</I>&gt;<i> improved)
+</I>&gt;<i> - status of web-services (+ldap implementation)-&gt;useful to a good brand and
+</I>&gt;<i> product promotion
+</I>
+These require either more time either more contributors either more
+(full time) contributors than we have at this time (no way we start
+the ideas app before we closed the
+bugzilla/maintdb/forum/wiki/epoll/calendar steps).
+
+&gt;<i> - election of a vice-leader (useful until graham will come back)
+</I>
+There is no leader in the team yet, so with all respect due to graham
+and his great investment from the first day, team leader, deputy
+leader and representative places are still open. And for an election
+to happen needs team peers to be named (those who can vote/be
+elected).
+
+&gt;<i> - artwork status
+</I>
+ * logo refinements/experiments in progress - some collector tshirts
+will be available (on sale) at FOSDEM hopefully + stickers (collector,
+because it's not the final logo that's printed on it)
+ * packages artwork replacement almost started, which tasks is
+blocking for the alpha release
+
+&gt;<i> - necessary means to be in touch with other teams
+</I>
+What do you suggest? Email, lists and IRC is mostly the most used at
+this time. I fear the forum won't be an option to have everyone agree
+on (it's only a complementary thing).
+
+As these make for very different topics, it would be good to have them
+listed on the marketing page and, if to discuss those more
+specifically, start a distinct thread.
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>Le samedi 22 janvier 2011 06:46:05, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 16:44, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i give you some proposals to discuss in the next meeting (next thursday
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for me
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it's ok):
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, the more we go further, the more I'd like we try to get rid
+</I>&gt;<i> of meetings (or use them sparringly just for quick votes on decisions
+</I>&gt;<i> layed out on the list before with stakeholders) and get the team
+</I>&gt;<i> driven by actions and deadlines, using the list as a common meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> point.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - marketing/communication teams merge, collaboration _and_ setup
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (having a set of temporary first contact/representative/leaders for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the team, to animate and manage it)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - team(s) roadmap
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See the meeting logs about this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - start discussing web editorial strategy
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - easy translation system of every websites (to be decided
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; together with i18n-list)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Discussing on i18n started it seems :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - start discussing about alpha release management later this month
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - think of the roadmap for this year for Mageia;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - discuss coming FOSDEM if people want
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See the above meeting notes too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - other topic?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - coming back to marketing strategy:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * vision creation
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * mission creation
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * slogan creation
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some work was started in this regard and it may be usesul to start it over.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - start thinking to every means useful to promote mageia (youtube
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; promotional videos, demonstration videos, creation of a well-organized
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wikipedia page etc..)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - start thinking to a mageia version of mandriva-ideas page (to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; renewed and improved)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - status of web-services (+ldap implementation)-&gt;useful to a good brand
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and product promotion
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> These require either more time either more contributors either more
+</I>&gt;<i> (full time) contributors than we have at this time (no way we start
+</I>&gt;<i> the ideas app before we closed the
+</I>&gt;<i> bugzilla/maintdb/forum/wiki/epoll/calendar steps).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - election of a vice-leader (useful until graham will come back)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no leader in the team yet, so with all respect due to graham
+</I>&gt;<i> and his great investment from the first day, team leader, deputy
+</I>&gt;<i> leader and representative places are still open. And for an election
+</I>&gt;<i> to happen needs team peers to be named (those who can vote/be
+</I>&gt;<i> elected).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - artwork status
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * logo refinements/experiments in progress - some collector tshirts
+</I>&gt;<i> will be available (on sale) at FOSDEM hopefully + stickers (collector,
+</I>&gt;<i> because it's not the final logo that's printed on it)
+</I>&gt;<i> * packages artwork replacement almost started, which tasks is
+</I>&gt;<i> blocking for the alpha release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - necessary means to be in touch with other teams
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you suggest? Email, lists and IRC is mostly the most used at
+</I>&gt;<i> this time. I fear the forum won't be an option to have everyone agree
+</I>&gt;<i> on (it's only a complementary thing).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As these make for very different topics, it would be good to have them
+</I>&gt;<i> listed on the marketing page and, if to discuss those more
+</I>&gt;<i> specifically, start a distinct thread.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
+Please decide, i will be there :)
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2011/1/22 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, the more we go further, the more I'd like we try to get rid
+</I>&gt;<i> of meetings (or use them sparringly just for quick votes on decisions
+</I>&gt;<i> layed out on the list before with stakeholders) and get the team
+</I>&gt;<i> driven by actions and deadlines, using the list as a common meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> point.
+</I>
+The example of Bradley and his ideas (which almost got lost because
+they were given on irc) told us that IRC is a short-lived medium and
+we all want to be able to go back and refer to something somebody
+wrote 100 years ago. So I support this idea to:
+
+ - do all discussions in the mailing lists
+ - reduce meeting schedule (those who are members of several teams
+will love this)
+ - hold meetings only to do final decisions about topics we discussed
+in the ml before (in general)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - coming back to marketing strategy:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* vision creation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* mission creation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* slogan creation
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some work was started in this regard and it may be usesul to start it over.
+</I>
+I may remind you of the &quot;values&quot; page which should give much
+input/inspiration about these points.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - start thinking to every means useful to promote mageia (youtube promotional
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> videos, demonstration videos, creation of a well-organized wikipedia page
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> etc..)
+</I>
+One essential part to promote something is &quot;Keeping us in the news&quot; -
+which means &quot;visibility&quot; of the name.
+More about that in an extra thread.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - election of a vice-leader (useful until graham will come back)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no leader in the team yet, so with all respect due to graham
+</I>&gt;<i> and his great investment from the first day, team leader, deputy
+</I>&gt;<i> leader and representative places are still open. And for an election
+</I>&gt;<i> to happen needs team peers to be named (those who can vote/be
+</I>&gt;<i> elected).
+</I>
++1
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - necessary means to be in touch with other teams
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you suggest? Email, lists and IRC is mostly the most used at
+</I>&gt;<i> this time. I fear the forum won't be an option to have everyone agree
+</I>&gt;<i> on (it's only a complementary thing).
+</I>
+So, let's keep the mailing lists.
+Not to repeat a problem at Mandriva where forum people and ml people
+were almost 2 different worlds we will have to deal with a
+communication bridge between the forum people and the ml people - this
+may be a task for the forum moderator team (or others)
+
+--
+wobo
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>One essential part to promote something is &quot;Keep it in the news&quot; -
+which means &quot;visibility&quot; of the name.
+
+This is a task which needs the cooperation of several teams and people:
+
+1. All teamleaders and board/council should continuously report about
+their work in the blog
+
+2. MarCom can create a regular newsletter, subscription form should be
+on the portal page of the Mageia website
+ - newsletter editor(s) can gather information from all parts of the
+project, including local communities.
+ - after compilation the newsletter should be translated by team
+members of i18n language teams (at Mandriva we had a web interface for
+that)
+ - local communities can advertize the newsletter in their language
+
+3. Local communities or members of the i18n language teams can contact
+the media (news sites, print magazines) in their languages
+ - keep those contacts alive by sending regular &quot;news flashes&quot;
+ - compile articles &amp; reviews about Mageia and send them in to the editors
+
+4. Major news &amp; press releases (releases, participation at major
+events, etc.) should be compiled, sent to the i18n language teams for
+translation and then sent away all together at the same time to
+newsletter subscribers, press contacts, news sites, etc.
+ - a news flash / announcement which hits the public everywhere at the
+same time has more impact than the same news spread over a period of
+time.
+
+
+Whatever we do, all this should sum up to a continuous flow.
+
+ - regular visibility of the name engraves the name in the mind of the readers
+ - covering a large part of the world (each area in their own
+language) generates an even larger spreading of the contents.
+
+Whatever we do, we should do it together inside a system of cooperation
+ - a system of compiling and spreading is much more effective than
+single activities (which does not mean that such single activities
+should not occur besides the whole system).
+
+As a long time contributor in this field I remember that we had such a
+setup at Mandrakesoft (organized and maintained by Ga&#235;l Duval &amp; Kadjo
+N'Doua, long time ago). It was good and we can do it as well (or
+better!).
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+
+this thread, to discuss Mageia first alpha release communication plan
+(that's not a huge thing, but it's important).
+
+The alpha is expected before the end of January, although we are a bit
+short; while we don't have an excellent progress reporting discipline
+yet, you can see bits of it here: <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/</A> ; the
+process at hand here is to bootstrap the distribution, that is,
+package and build all required software to have a minimal running
+system that, in turn, will allow to build a working set of packages to
+get to the ISO (that, in itself, would be a great topic to post; any
+volunteer?).
+
+However, packaging is not all, it has to produce a somewhat working
+ISO; we need too to finish to cleanup critical packages from
+references to Mandriva-owned, unlicensed artwork. Among other things.
+
+So although that's not desirable, we may slip out of the intended
+date; it's not a deadly sin, however we already slipped from past
+December to this January.
+
+Anyway. This alpha release is:
+ * our first technical alpha ISO, demonstrating our buildsystem and
+packaging team readiness;
+ * intended to developers, packagers, testers and contributors;
+ * to be expected to be ugly, have non-functioning or broken parts;
+ * our first milestone with a clean package tree.
+
+It is NOT:
+ * for use;
+ * for evaluation outside of a technical, contributor point of view;
+ * in a final, working state;
+ * for end-user review.
+
+Provided that there are great expectations on our project, it may be
+good to have a very explicit name for the release; not only &quot;Mageia
+Alpha 1&quot; but maybe something more along the &quot;Mageia Alpha 1 -
+developers preview&quot; or &quot;developers release&quot; or something else.
+
+So it may be a great occasion to (re)present the project, technical
+parts of it on one side and governance/org parts on the other side.
+But the focus is really to push the right message for the ISO.
+
+What to expect next to this alpha? We have this rough list of specs:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_0_specifications">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_0_specifications</A> but we need to
+sort it out better (per milestone) and make it more clear what each
+step has. We'll discuss of this too during coming Monday Council
+meeting, so if a few of the team could attend it or at least have a
+look on the notes, that would be great.
+
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+Hi Wolfgang,
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+It really depends on the particular needs of any activity, yet I'm a big
+proponent for the consolodation of many projects between email lists and
+forums, as it relates to the preferences of the participants.
+
+This provides a choice for the participant, native to their respective
+comfort zones, without breaking either medium, and without forcing
+someone to adopt one medium or the other in order to participate in the
+discussions.
+
+pls see additional comments below...
+
+On 01/24/2011 02:54 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, let's keep the mailing lists.
+</I>&gt;<i> Not to repeat a problem at Mandriva where forum people and ml people
+</I>&gt;<i> were almost 2 different worlds we will have to deal with a
+</I>&gt;<i> communication bridge between the forum people and the ml people - this
+</I>&gt;<i> may be a task for the forum moderator team (or others)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+I can't speak to the web based infrastructure we're using at the moment,
+or what we might do in that regard, however, here's a solution that has
+worked well for me whenever I need such a merge between mediums.
+
+<A HREF="http://drupal.org/node/40777">http://drupal.org/node/40777</A>
+
+There are, of course, other methodologies. I would suggest that whatever
+we decide upon, that it integrates seamlessly so that:
+
+1.) mailing list posts end up in the forum
+
+2.) forum posts end up on the mailing list
+
+3.) we archive everything at one of the major email archive sites AS
+WELL as GMANE.
+
+Hope that helps :)
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It really depends on the particular needs of any activity, yet I'm a big
+</I>&gt;<i> proponent for the consolodation of many projects between email lists and
+</I>&gt;<i> forums, as it relates to the preferences of the participants.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This provides a choice for the participant, native to their respective
+</I>&gt;<i> comfort zones, without breaking either medium, and without forcing
+</I>&gt;<i> someone to adopt one medium or the other in order to participate in the
+</I>&gt;<i> discussions.
+</I>
+Yes, I am aware of the need to cater to 2 worlds, we discussed this
+many times at length at Mandriva and again in the beginning of Mageia.
+There is already a list2forum gateway in place, created and maintained
+by tux99
+<A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
+
+Whether this is temporary or not, we will see. Gmane has turned out to
+be unreliable, as reported in some mails. I myself experienced serious
+lags with Gmane (mails turned up in Gmane hours later).
+
+We have our own list archives at <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/&lt;name">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/&lt;name</A> of list&gt;
+
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+On 01/24/2011 01:04 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
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+&gt;<i> There is already a list2forum gateway in place, created and maintained
+</I>&gt;<i> by tux99
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
+</I>
+Oh, sweet! He's using FudForum - one of my favs and stable as all getup!
+
+Romain, don't you think we should have a link to the forum on the wiki page?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Whether this is temporary or not, we will see.
+</I>
+Yes, The last messages are from November, while other lists are as
+current as today.
+
+I think we need to address this issue (With *tux99* ???).
+
+Also, as it is pointed out at the link above, One is still required to
+subscribe to the mailing list in order for their forum posts to
+propagate to the list.
+
+I see this as an ideal solution, Wolfgang, to the problem you brought up
+about the lists/forums ending up almost split into two different sets of
+subscribers.
+
+We need to make sure that we consolodate all of our marcom resources
+into a single pool of people instead of allowing it to splinter, based
+on the communications medium that someone prefers.
+
+This gateway will solve that problem, and AFAIC, FudForum is much nicer
+than PhpBB anyway.
+
+I've built many of both, and I just don't have the problems w/FudForum
+that I do with PhpBB.
+
+Gmane has turned out to
+&gt;<i> be unreliable, as reported in some mails. I myself experienced serious
+</I>&gt;<i> lags with Gmane (mails turned up in Gmane hours later).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have our own list archives at <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/&lt;name">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/&lt;name</A> of list&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE>2011/1/24 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 01/24/2011 01:04 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is already a list2forum gateway in place, created and maintained
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> by tux99
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oh, sweet! He's using FudForum - one of my favs and &#160;stable as all getup!
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain, don't you think we should have a link to the forum on the wiki page?
+</I>
+It is not a Mageia activity. I don't know...
+
+&gt;<i> Yes, The last messages are from November, while other lists are as
+</I>&gt;<i> current as today.
+</I>
+The old messages are in a section of that forum, not related to the
+lists, as much as I have seen.
+
+&gt;<i> Also, as it is pointed out at the link above, One is still required to
+</I>&gt;<i> subscribe to the mailing list in order for their forum posts to
+</I>&gt;<i> propagate to the list.
+</I>
+Yes. We have a web gui where you can subscribe to the lists:
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/</A>
+
+&gt;<i> We need to make sure that we consolodate all of our marcom resources
+</I>&gt;<i> into a single pool of people instead of allowing it to splinter, based
+</I>&gt;<i> on the communications medium that someone prefers.
+</I>
+As you can see all these lists are platforms of contributors. The
+forum will be mostly for userland but as we have seen at Mandriva we
+need a bridge between these entities.
+
+&gt;<i> I've built many of both, and I just don't have the problems w/FudForum
+</I>&gt;<i> that I do with PhpBB.
+</I>
+Again, your mileage may differ. I have been running phpBB3 with
+MandrivaUser.de for a year now, no problems at all + it is easy to
+customize + it plays nicely with LDAP, which is essential.
+
+But I think the (technical) forum people can say more about this.
+
+--
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+On 01/24/2011 02:14 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/1/24 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 01/24/2011 01:04 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There is already a list2forum gateway in place, created and maintained
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> by tux99
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oh, sweet! He's using FudForum - one of my favs and stable as all getup!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Romain, don't you think we should have a link to the forum on the wiki page?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is not a Mageia activity. I don't know...
+</I>
+
+Well to finalize this consolodation we'll either need a commitment from
+*tux99* to continue to provide forum services for our marcom lists or
+we'll need to implement a new forum that is integrated w/the marcom
+email lists.
+
+I would be happy either way, and at this point it appears as if we're
+supported w/the FudForum implementation at <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum</A>
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, The last messages are from November, while other lists are as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> current as today.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The old messages are in a section of that forum, not related to the
+</I>&gt;<i> lists, as much as I have seen.
+</I>
+Oh, so it's never been integrated w/a forum&lt;==&gt;list gateway?
+
+That would expalain why I don't see any messages from the list :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also, as it is pointed out at the link above, One is still required to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> subscribe to the mailing list in order for their forum posts to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> propagate to the list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes. We have a web gui where you can subscribe to the lists:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/</A>
+</I>
+That's not what I was referring to. Most forum software, when you
+implement an email list gateway, requires you to register in the forums
+with the same email address (This FudForum implementation is no
+different, as per the instructions there) that you are subscribed to the
+email list(s) with.
+
+So, if I'm subscribed to an email list as '<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">billg at msn.com</A>', then I need
+to be registered with the forum software as having the same email
+address - otherwise, my posts won't show up on the email list.
+
+This is a security feature, and it's not recommended to change this
+(although one could). It prevents people not subscribed to the email
+list that are registered with the forum software from posting into one
+of the gateway'ed forums and those posts ending up on the email list(s).
+
+Right now I'm waiting for my forum subscription to be approved so I can
+begin testing to see if it works.
+
+Basically, most *Mailman* email listservers URLs can be found at
+<A HREF="http://SLD.TLD/mailman/listinfo">http://SLD.TLD/mailman/listinfo</A> - this is the case with Mageia, which
+follows the standard vanilla install.
+
+You'll typically only see different URLs on shared hosting services
+where, for example, cPanel/WHM are implemented.
+
+
+&gt;<i> As you can see all these lists are platforms of contributors. The
+</I>&gt;<i> forum will be mostly for userland but as we have seen at Mandriva we
+</I>&gt;<i> need a bridge between these entities.
+</I>
+I'm not sure I understand what you mean by, &quot;...these lists are
+platforms of contributors.&quot;
+
+I don't see that. From what I see, there is only one Mailman Listserver,
+located at <A HREF="http://mageia.org/mailman/listinfo,">http://mageia.org/mailman/listinfo,</A> and checking the RFC
+headers from mails I'm receiving from various lists I'm subscribed to
+there reveals (certainly appears) that it is a single instance of a
+Mailman listerver installed.
+
+All the (various) list mailings I'm receiving are coming from the same
+MX severs.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've built many of both, and I just don't have the problems w/FudForum
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that I do with PhpBB.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Again, your mileage may differ. I have been running phpBB3 with
+</I>&gt;<i> MandrivaUser.de for a year now, no problems at all + it is easy to
+</I>&gt;<i> customize + it plays nicely with LDAP, which is essential.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But I think the (technical) forum people can say more about this.
+</I>
+Yes, I've been building and hosting various services for more than a
+couple of decades, and I've seen forum software come and go. PhpBB is
+nice, and full featured, yet since it is the most popular, there have
+been more exploits revealed for it, requiring us to perform more than
+the usual amount of patches and upgrades in keeping it secure.
+
+wrt both PhpBB and FudForum, I've only had to apply a security patch
+twice for FudForum, and more than 15 patches or upgrades to PhpBB over
+the span of the last decade or so.
+
+Regardless, they're both good, as long as you maintain them and
+subscribe to the security lists so you can apply timely patches.
+
+It doesn't matter to me which one we use, and there are many other fine
+forum packages out there as well....
+
+But, if the existing one's are going to be a pain to administer, or are
+too hard for n00bs to find, then I would suggest we implement this with
+our existing hosting solutions on the mageia.org domain.
+
+Irrespective of which solution(s) we opt for, having the link to both
+the mailing list(s) as well as the forum(s) on the marcom wiki page is
+important, since that is the central point of entrance and information
+for our group's activities.
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.760.666.2703 (US)
+TEL: +44.702.405.1909 (UK)
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+<PRE>2011/1/25 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well to finalize this consolodation we'll either need a commitment from
+</I>&gt;<i> *tux99* to continue to provide forum services for our marcom lists or
+</I>&gt;<i> we'll need to implement a new forum that is integrated w/the marcom
+</I>&gt;<i> email lists.
+</I>
+If we will have such a gateway it will be for all mailing lists, not
+just the marcom list.
+
+&gt;<i> Oh, so it's never been integrated w/a forum&lt;==&gt;list gateway?
+</I>&gt;<i> That would expalain why I don't see any messages from the list :)
+</I>
+As you can see all other lists are up-to-date, only marketing and
+artwork are not. I don't know why, I think you have to ask tux99. I
+don't know his activities at the moment.
+
+&gt;<i> That's not what I was referring to. Most forum software, when you
+</I>&gt;<i> implement an email list gateway, requires you to register in the forums
+</I>&gt;<i> with the same email address (This FudForum implementation is no
+</I>&gt;<i> different, as per the instructions there) that you are subscribed to the
+</I>&gt;<i> email list(s) with.
+</I>
+This gateway we are talking about is not a Mageia activity, as I said.
+The mailing list system is a Mageia activity. The relation between
+them was made by tux99, not by Mageia sysadmin group. So I can't say
+anything about that.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> As you can see all these lists are platforms of contributors. The
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> forum will be mostly for userland but as we have seen at Mandriva we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> need a bridge between these entities.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by, &quot;...these lists are
+</I>&gt;<i> platforms of contributors.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't see that. From what I see, there is only one Mailman Listserver,
+</I>&gt;<i> located at <A HREF="http://mageia.org/mailman/listinfo,">http://mageia.org/mailman/listinfo,</A> and checking the RFC
+</I>&gt;<i> headers from mails I'm receiving from various lists I'm subscribed to
+</I>&gt;<i> there reveals (certainly appears) that it is a single instance of a
+</I>&gt;<i> Mailman listerver installed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All the (various) list mailings I'm receiving are coming from the same
+</I>&gt;<i> MX severs.
+</I>
+Yes, right. I don't understand how this is related with what I wrote.
+I wanted to express that the maling lists are the communication
+platforms of the contributors of Mageia, the sysadmin team, the
+marketing and communication teams, the artwork team, etc. and the
+general -discuss list for all. As it looks by now everybody is ok with
+this setup.
+
+Forums will be implemented as well (on forums.mageia.org), it will
+possibly turn out that they will mostly be used by users of Mageia to
+find support and get together. This is the usual way. So we will need
+such a gateway to the mailing lists, so that forum users are able to
+follow mailing list discussions and we will not have the same split
+between the 2 worlds as at Mandriva.
+
+&gt;<i> wrt both PhpBB and FudForum, I've only had to apply a security patch
+</I>&gt;<i> twice for FudForum, and more than 15 patches or upgrades to PhpBB &#160;over
+</I>&gt;<i> the span of the last decade or so.
+</I>
+This is a continuous discussion among all the related people: which is
+a better system, one that finds many weak points and fixes them
+immediately or one that finds few weak points and fixes them
+occasionally :)
+
+&gt;<i> But, if the existing one's are going to be a pain to administer, or are
+</I>&gt;<i> too hard for n00bs to find, then I would suggest we implement this with
+</I>&gt;<i> our existing hosting solutions on the mageia.org domain.
+</I>
+How problematic a forum is to administer is the administrator's task
+to find out. They will administer forums.mageia.org.
+How easily people will find the forum is the webteam's task. It has to
+be found with one click from the place where visitors of Mageia start
+- the portal page of the Mageia website. Any place in the wiki would
+be not a good idea.
+
+But I am not sure if we are talking about the same issues here.
+
+--
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+On 01/24/2011 05:34 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This gateway we are talking about is not a Mageia activity, as I said.
+</I>&gt;<i> The mailing list system is a Mageia activity. The relation between
+</I>&gt;<i> them was made by tux99, not by Mageia sysadmin group. So I can't say
+</I>&gt;<i> anything about that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Okay I see what you were saying now :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Forums will be implemented as well (on forums.mageia.org), it will
+</I>&gt;<i> possibly turn out that they will mostly be used by users of Mageia to
+</I>&gt;<i> find support and get together. This is the usual way. So we will need
+</I>&gt;<i> such a gateway to the mailing lists, so that forum users are able to
+</I>&gt;<i> follow mailing list discussions and we will not have the same split
+</I>&gt;<i> between the 2 worlds as at Mandriva.
+</I>
+Yes this is what I was hoping would be the plan to implement.
+
+&gt;<i> How easily people will find the forum is the webteam's task. It has to
+</I>&gt;<i> be found with one click from the place where visitors of Mageia start
+</I>&gt;<i> - the portal page of the Mageia website. Any place in the wiki would
+</I>&gt;<i> be not a good idea.
+</I>
+Oh yeah, that's right the Wiki says it's only temporary :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But I am not sure if we are talking about the same issues here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think so. The discussion was about providing a gateway between forums
+and mail lists, although my original understanding was that wrt the
+marcom group, there had been issues of splintering in the past as a
+result of people's preferences for either one communications medium or
+the other, until there were almost two distinct groups.
+
+I feel it's a good idea to extend that gateway capability to the other
+discussion groups as well, as you suggest.
+
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+<PRE>2011/1/25 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Forums will be implemented as well (on forums.mageia.org), it will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> possibly turn out that they will mostly be used by users of Mageia to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> find support and get together. This is the usual way. So we will need
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> such a gateway to the mailing lists, so that forum users are able to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> follow mailing list discussions and we will not have the same split
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> between the 2 worlds as at Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes this is what I was hoping would be the plan to implement.
+</I>
+This is not a plan, these are my individual thoughts.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> How easily people will find the forum is the webteam's task. It has to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be found with one click from the place where visitors of Mageia start
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - the portal page of the Mageia website. Any place in the wiki would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be not a good idea.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oh yeah, that's right the Wiki says it's only temporary :)
+</I>
+Yes, but that is not the reason. We will have a permanent wiki.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But I am not sure if we are talking about the same issues here.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think so. The discussion was about providing a gateway between forums
+</I>&gt;<i> and mail lists, although my original understanding was that wrt the
+</I>&gt;<i> marcom group, there had been issues of splintering in the past as a
+</I>&gt;<i> result of people's preferences for either one communications medium or
+</I>&gt;<i> the other, until there were almost two distinct groups.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I feel it's a good idea to extend that gateway capability to the other
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion groups as well, as you suggest.
+</I>
+It is available for the other mailing lists, it's not working for the
+marketing list. I wrote, that I do not know the reason because this
+gateway was not setup by Mageia.
+
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+&gt;<i> &gt; - necessary means to be in touch with other teams
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you suggest? Email, lists and IRC is mostly the most used at
+</I>&gt;<i> this time. I fear the forum won't be an option to have everyone agree
+</I>&gt;<i> on (it's only a complementary thing).
+</I>
+i think a new mailing list called something similar to &quot;mageia-together&quot; could
+be useful to treat only multi-teams topics (e.g. choose the release date of
+Mageia, choose the localisation system for web services and so on)
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As these make for very different topics, it would be good to have them
+</I>&gt;<i> listed on the marketing page and, if to discuss those more
+</I>&gt;<i> specifically, start a distinct thread.
+</I>
+is up to you, anyone who want to deepen some aspects can open a new discussion
+here
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - necessary means to be in touch with other teams
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What do you suggest? Email, lists and IRC is mostly the most used at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this time. I fear the forum won't be an option to have everyone agree
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on (it's only a complementary thing).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i think a new mailing list called something similar to &quot;mageia-together&quot; could
+</I>&gt;<i> be useful to treat only multi-teams topics (e.g. choose the release date of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia, choose the localisation system for web services and so on)
+</I>
+No need to open yet another list for that: you either use -discuss,
+either get the topic hosted on the most relevant list where most of
+the committed people are subscribed.
+
+For instance, web services are most likely to happen on webteam or
+i18n or sysadmin, depending on the focus of the discussion. Release
+date decision is a matter for the Council or the Board (because it
+requires roadmap adequacy and synchronization with all teams
+progress), but this of course would be discussed/publicized on
+-discuss (and other means).
+
+
+Romain
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+
+planet.mageia.org is an old discussion (started in September (mostly
+IRL) when we installed blogs).
+It's an important website to spread Mageia and an aggregator about the
+project.
+
+As previously discussed on IRC or IRL, we have analyzed the different
+web based aggregator platforms we known:
+- planetplanet (<A HREF="http://www.planetplanet.org/">http://www.planetplanet.org/</A>)
+- planet venus (<A HREF="http://intertwingly.net/code/venus/">http://intertwingly.net/code/venus/</A>)
+
+Then, we met Pascal Chevrel, from Mozilla Europe, in November, and
+discussed on a lot of things.
+He explained us how they were managing the Mozilla Europe Planet and
+made us discovered moonmoon (<A HREF="http://moonmoon.org">http://moonmoon.org</A>).
+This platform fits all our requirements: &quot;Moonmoon is stupidly simple&quot;
+(no DB, no comments, no votes, flat files, ...)
+
+We expect to install this web based agregator on &quot;champagne&quot; to start
+ASAP the Mageia Planet.
+
+For know, we thought, for agregatted blogs on it, of the following
+rules:
+- anyone who asks for it
+- who is peer in a team
+- only post with a Mageia tag will appear on the planet.
+
+What do you think about all of this? Any comments or remarks?
+Thank you for the feedback.
+
+Cheers,
+--
+Damien Lallement
+aka &quot;damsweb&quot; or &quot;coincoin&quot; on IRC and twitter
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+ <B>Adjamilton J&#250;nior</B>
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+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think about all of this? Any comments or remarks?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I thinks that is a good idea and very necessary.
+I agree with the rules.
+I don't know about Moonmoon software but I'll see about this.
+
+
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+
+Since several days, I have been seeing people promoting Mageia to
+beginners and telling them they will be able to try Mageia within few weeks.
+
+
+Someone told me that &quot;if the packages rebuild phase has begun, that
+would mean that the system is working&quot;.
+I answered him that between the rebuild phase and a live version, there
+is a huge step.
+He asked me whether the time between the rebuild phase and the release
+of a live version was about several months or several weeks.
+I pasted him a part of the wiki saying:
+&quot;At this stage, DO NOT EXPECT any alpha or final ISO 0 release to be a
+'general audience-ready' system.&quot;
+I advised him to get informations before announcing anything publicly.
+
+I am worried that some people will be awaiting for Mageia and will be
+disappointed (about the way they could use the distribution) because
+they were told that they would be able to try it quickly.
+
+
+
+I think it would be great if someone could publish a short note about
+what will be and WON'T be the alpha and the ISO 0 (as written on the
+wiki) and what each kind of users (beginners, experienced users,
+developers, ...) could expect about it.
+The note could also include a brief schedule of the planned released and
+specify that this schedule may change.
+
+
+
+P.S.
+I'm also wondering which page to believe/to recommend :
+- <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap#march">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap#march</A> &lt;&lt; ISO 0
+announced for March.
+-
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_0_specifications#expected_milestones">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_0_specifications#expected_milestones</A>
+&lt;&lt; ISO 0 announced for April.
+
+
+
+Cheers :)
+
+--
+DjeZAeL / Elodie
+
+GNU/Linux and Free Open-Source Software user
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 09:45, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/1/25 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Forums will be implemented as well (on forums.mageia.org), it will
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> possibly turn out that they will mostly be used by users of Mageia to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> find support and get together. This is the usual way. So we will need
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> such a gateway to the mailing lists, so that forum users are able to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> follow mailing list discussions and we will not have the same split
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> between the 2 worlds as at Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes this is what I was hoping would be the plan to implement.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is not a plan, these are my individual thoughts.
+</I>
+Just to summarize.
+
+There is no such plan at this time. That's great that some see this as
+an important point and want to help in setting this up. They are
+welcome to provide such a bridge from their side (as this has been
+done already, partly). Or to provide a controlled (packaged, followed)
+way to install this on our side so we can consider it (but that will
+take more time I guess).
+
+But that's not our focus for now.
+
+And for now, the main work/discussion places for contributing to
+Mageia are mailing-lists, in English.
+
+That does not prevent teams (and local subteams) to work in a separate
+place, only that teams reports and decisions should happen on the
+main, central channels.
+
+And forums are not expected to be used for that (or marginally, or
+locally) but to engage with other people on a different level, at a
+different pace.
+
+Our own forums (as soon as they will be up) will be in several
+languages (and there are some already). So facilitating communication
+won't be only a matter of crossing the gap between mailing-lists and
+web-forums, but too of translating views from several locales to
+English (and the other way around).
+
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 19:19, DjeZAeL &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">djezael at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I am worried that some people will be awaiting for Mageia and will be
+</I>&gt;<i> disappointed (about the way they could use the distribution) because they
+</I>&gt;<i> were told that they would be able to try it quickly.
+</I>
+No need to worry about that anymore: it is going to happen anyway. :)
+
+We just have to endorse this and stress out the message better. That
+will still not prevent people to download, test, yell and post a
+somehow angry blog post saying that it is &quot;way below their
+expectations&quot; and &quot;this project is dead or going the wrong way&quot;. We
+can't do anything about this, but explain better what we do (and why).
+
+&gt;<i> I think it would be great if someone could publish a short note about what
+</I>&gt;<i> will be and WON'T be the alpha and the ISO 0 (as written on the wiki) and
+</I>&gt;<i> what each kind of users (beginners, experienced users, developers, ...)
+</I>&gt;<i> could expect about it.
+</I>&gt;<i> The note could also include a brief schedule of the planned released and
+</I>&gt;<i> specify that this schedule may change.
+</I>
+We can do that. Will raise the point on Monday founders/Council meeting.
+
+Actually, I would love some reaction to my Jan. 24 mail about this
+alpha release, as the message would greatly benefit from your (all of
+you who joined the marcom team) work and as its different incarnations
+(blog, as noted here, and everywhere else) may be of this team
+operational responsibility shortly.
+
+&gt;<i> I'm also wondering which page to believe/to recommend :
+</I>&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap#march">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap#march</A> &#160;&lt;&lt; ISO 0 announced
+</I>&gt;<i> for March.
+</I>&gt;<i> -
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_0_specifications#expected_milestones">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso_0_specifications#expected_milestones</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;&lt; ISO 0 announced for April.
+</I>
+The latter is better. The whole roadmap page needs some work (input
+from here welcome as well).
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+
+On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:17, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> One essential part to promote something is &quot;Keep it in the news&quot; -
+</I>&gt;<i> which means &quot;visibility&quot; of the name.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> This is a task which needs the cooperation of several teams and people:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. All teamleaders and board/council should continuously report about
+</I>&gt;<i> their work in the blog
+</I>
+Yes. We are going to have a Planet setup. We may set a rule as to what
+goes where? (I'd leave the official blog to board/council and marcom
+team as such; and owned blogs to everyone in their own name, to be
+reported/linked to Mageia).
+
+&gt;<i> 2. MarCom can create a regular newsletter, [...]
+</I>
+Yep. For that, we need to know who can lead this and what is needed
+for everything to work (people, tools, legal requirements, style).
+
+&gt;<i> 3. Local communities or members of the i18n language teams can contact
+</I>&gt;<i> the media (news sites, print magazines) in their languages
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- keep those contacts alive by sending regular &quot;news flashes&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- compile articles &amp; reviews about Mageia and send them in to the editors
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. Major news &amp; press releases [...]
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Whatever we do, we should do it together inside a system of cooperation
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- a system of compiling and spreading is much more effective than
+</I>&gt;<i> single activities (which does not mean that such single activities
+</I>&gt;<i> should not occur besides the whole system).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As a long time contributor in this field I remember that we had such a
+</I>&gt;<i> setup at Mandrakesoft (organized and maintained by Ga&#235;l Duval &amp; Kadjo
+</I>&gt;<i> N'Doua, long time ago). It was good and we can do it as well (or
+</I>&gt;<i> better!).
+</I>
+Sounds great. Do you have a specific description of this setup, how it
+would work? (roles, repositories, tools - those may be existing
+webapps or providers as well).
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 19:19, DjeZAeL &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">djezael at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am worried that some people will be awaiting for Mageia and will be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> disappointed (about the way they could use the distribution) because they
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> were told that they would be able to try it quickly.
+</I>
+Ok, having discussed on IRC with DjeZAel further about this, it seems
+some people advertise the release to be available (because they
+believe it to be and they don't check) and to be usable for everyone
+(for the same reasons of not caring enough to check what's happening).
+
+That's life so we have to prepare &amp; square our message to start to
+talk about the release before it happens.
+
+So here is the situation at this very time:
+ * we won't release an ISO by January; we are late, although we are
+really reaching the point to be able to build an ISO;
+ * that we *can* build and release an ISO does not mean that it is for
+everyone to use; again, this first alpha will be of no interest for
+most people outside of the project.
+
+Let's sync with founders this evening about this (or tomorrow) as to
+post on -discuss, Twitter and our blog (at least) a statement about
+this:
+ * don't promise what you don't know about this release;
+ * do not market this release outside of the project; it will be of no
+interest outside of the project; it will be announced nonetheless, but
+not as a general, usable release;
+ * do not reclaim for download mirrors when there is not even a
+release announced; be consistent;
+ * please be very careful about the release message as it impacts the project.
+
+Advice?
+
+Cheers (and thanks DjeZAel for reporting this)
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds great. Do you have a specific description of this setup, how it
+</I>&gt;<i> would work? (roles, repositories, tools - those may be existing
+</I>&gt;<i> webapps or providers as well).
+</I>
+Will try to find the time to lay this out on a wiki page - but it may
+take a couple of days (until after Fosdem).
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+here is a draft of the presentations we'll give at FOSDEM; there is
+still a missing part in the common trunk and I expect to load it this
+evening from previous slides and talk notes.
+
+However, please review this and give your feedback (add/remove/focus);
+presentations will be 30 mins only, expect for 5 mins of Q&amp;A, that's
+short.
+
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=docs:fosdem2011">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=docs:fosdem2011</A>
+
+Still mix of English/French. Still not very well structured. Still not
+very complete &quot;Org focus&quot; part.
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+
+Thanks for all the work you've put into this!
+
+&gt;<i> Still not very complete &quot;Org focus&quot; part.
+</I>
+This is a pretty important part - it's the answer to the question
+&quot;why would I join this distro and not another one?&quot;
+
+Can you take some of the Core Values stuff already up on the Marketing
+wiki, here:
+
+<A HREF="http://ooogear.co.nz/mageiawiki/index.php?title=CoreValues">http://ooogear.co.nz/mageiawiki/index.php?title=CoreValues</A>
+
+This is the stuff that got all of *this* team excited, back when.
+These values are why we're here, and willing to turn our hands to
+things. The inclusive stuff. It kind of takes a back seat to the
+technical stuff, most of the time, but a technical person can be
+technical in *any* distro - there has to be something that sets us
+apart, other than the notion that we stopped liking the management
+folks at Mandriva...
+
+Cheers,
+
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+It's looking pretty good Romain :)
+
+I cleaned up a couple of things, not much though, since this is
+basically just a cheat-sheet/notes page for the presenters/speakers to
+queue off of, where they can pick/choose items/topics that are relevant
+given the time frame they are alotted, etc.
+
+On a slightly more humorous note, I was going through and reading the
+mix of French and English, and observed that even twenty years after
+leaving college, I'm still able to read in French, although I will
+probably always have problems with nouns, especially industrial and
+technically related items.
+
+Being a member of the sysadmin team myself, I added content in the
+*sysadmin* area of the notes, for the most part mirroring our stated
+progress and a few todo items. the percentage of completion for moving
+the entire Mageia infrastructure to our self-hosted services and domain
+is arbitrary - I guestimated we're at about 85%, but can't speak
+authoritatively as to the particular number, which is a moving target
+anyway and will change by the time FOSDEM occurs.
+
+Okay, getting back to the Open Source convention in Mexico next month -
+This should serve really well as a basic template for the speaker there
+too, although we should bear in mind that he has an entire hour to make
+his presentation, perhaps 50 minutes, after allowing for a 10min Q&amp;A.
+
+Is there a link to the slide show presentations, etc., that you
+mentioned? We should probably get to work on making sure that it is
+localized for the primary language of the respective audience a speaker
+will encounter at future engagements.
+
+i.e., I reckon we'll need to translate the slide show into Spanish for
+the convention in Mexico :) Something I really can't help out with :(
+
+I could have gone through and cleaned up language issues on that page
+dealing with the translations and spellings, but most of it was pretty
+obvious anyway, as to what was being referred to, and again, it's only a
+template for the speakers to base their presentations on, so what's
+the point in changing all occurances of *septembre*, to *September* -
+IOW, it's not like it's marketing copy going to the lithographers ;)
+
+Hope that helps!
+
+Kindest regards,
+
+Bradley (tallship)
+
+On 01/31/2011 09:19 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> here is a draft of the presentations we'll give at FOSDEM; there is
+</I>&gt;<i> still a missing part in the common trunk and I expect to load it this
+</I>&gt;<i> evening from previous slides and talk notes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, please review this and give your feedback (add/remove/focus);
+</I>&gt;<i> presentations will be 30 mins only, expect for 5 mins of Q&amp;A, that's
+</I>&gt;<i> short.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=docs:fosdem2011">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=docs:fosdem2011</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Still mix of English/French. Still not very well structured. Still not
+</I>&gt;<i> very complete &quot;Org focus&quot; part.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A>
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000029.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="29">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000030.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-marketing] Comms and i18n
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-marketing] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-marketing] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="31">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</A><A NAME="24">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000027.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
+</A><A NAME="27">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000028.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="28">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-marketing] Alpha release
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000026.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2
+</A><A NAME="26">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hellnest.fuah at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other Dutch or Flemish members involved in the Mageia project?
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>trish at thefrasers.org
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
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+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 22:53:54 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 65<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</A><A NAME="24">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000026.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2
+</A><A NAME="26">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hellnest.fuah at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000027.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
+</A><A NAME="27">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000028.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="28">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000029.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="29">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000030.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="31">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other Dutch or Flemish members involved in the Mageia project?
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-marketing] Comms and i18n
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>trish at thefrasers.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-marketing] Alpha release
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-marketing] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-marketing] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Jan 31 22:53:54 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 23:02:00 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <h1>January 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jan 3 15:17:34 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 22:53:54 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 65<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-marketing] Alpha release
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-marketing] Comms and i18n
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000027.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
+</A><A NAME="27">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000026.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2
+</A><A NAME="26">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hellnest.fuah at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000028.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="28">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000029.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="29">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000030.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="31">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>trish at thefrasers.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other Dutch or Flemish members involved in the Mageia project?
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-marketing] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-marketing] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</A><A NAME="24">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Jan 31 22:53:54 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 23:02:00 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>January 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jan 3 15:17:34 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 22:53:54 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 65<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01294064254- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000024.html">[Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team
+</A><A NAME="24">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01294161024- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000025.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
+</A><A NAME="25">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01294161024-01294418937- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000027.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1
+</A><A NAME="27">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01294225853- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000026.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2
+</A><A NAME="26">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>hellnest.fuah at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01294419425- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000028.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="28">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01294419425-01294427228- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000029.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="29">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01294419425-01294427228-01294431546- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000030.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="30">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295306912- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295307236- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295376761- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295376761-01295458635- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295544374- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295544374-01295549386- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295544374-01295589167- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295544374-01295589167-01295600795- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295544374-01295589167-01295600795-01295603180- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295544374-01295589167-01295600795-01295603180-01295618741- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>trish at thefrasers.org
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295544374-01295589167-01295600795-01295648931- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295845714- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339-01295903053- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339-01295903053-01295905535- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339-01295903053-01295905535-01295907244- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="71">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339-01295903053-01295905535-01295907244-01295910068- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000072.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="72">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339-01295903053-01295905535-01295907244-01295910068-01295919251- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="73">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339-01295903053-01295905535-01295907244-01295910068-01295919251-01295927090- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000074.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="74">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339-01295903053-01295905535-01295907244-01295910068-01295919251-01295927090-01295945137- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000075.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="75">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295866452-01295901339-01295903053-01295905535-01295907244-01295910068-01295919251-01295927090-01295945137-01296408583- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000081.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums
+</A><A NAME="81">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295984154- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000076.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="76">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294419425-01294427228-01294499614-01294510442-01294652050-01294683229-01294686835-01294687560-01295300456-01295624675-01295700365-01295984154-01295994597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000077.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="77">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01294419425-01294435332- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000031.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="31">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01294419425-01294435332-01294463611- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01294582742- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-marketing] Other Dutch or Flemish members involved in the Mageia project?
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01294688753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-marketing] Comms and i18n
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01295499214- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295499214-01295520229- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01295499214-01295520229-01295520879- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01295499214-01295520229-01295523141- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01295499214-01295520229-01295554989- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01295499214-01295520229-01295554989-01295561272- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01295499214-01295520229-01295554989-01295562038- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01295499214-01295520229-01295554989-01295562038-01295624451- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01295499214-01295520229-01295554989-01295562038-01295624451-01295648806- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-marketing] Mageia in Enli 2010/2011
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295867872- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295867872-01296410435- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000083.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="83">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01295867872-01296410435-01296478447- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000085.html">[Mageia-marketing] Visibility, Spreading
+</A><A NAME="85">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295881507- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-marketing] Alpha release
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01296217975- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000078.html">[Mageia-marketing] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation
+</A><A NAME="78">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01296217975-01296219143- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000079.html">[Mageia-marketing] planet.mageia.org - info/discuss about the installation
+</A><A NAME="79">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01296325156- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000080.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="80">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>DjeZAeL
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01296325156-01296409828- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000082.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="82">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01296325156-01296409828-01296411737- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000084.html">[Mageia-marketing] Communication about the alpha and the ISO 0 release
+</A><A NAME="84">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01296494348- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000086.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="86">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01296494348-01296503877- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000087.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="87">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01296494348-01296510834- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000088.html">[Mageia-marketing] FOSDEM presentations draft plans
+</A><A NAME="88">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bradley D. Thornton
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Jan 31 22:53:54 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 23:02:00 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More info on this list...
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