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Thornton</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Consolidation%20of%20email%20list%20and%20forum%20mediums&In-Reply-To=%3C4D3E04B4.3080004%40NorthTech.US%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums">Bradley at NorthTech.US + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Jan 25 00:01:08 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#72">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#72">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#72">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#72">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: RIPEMD160 + + + +On 01/24/2011 02:14 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +><i> 2011/1/24 Bradley D. Thornton <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>>: +</I>>><i> On 01/24/2011 01:04 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> There is already a list2forum gateway in place, created and maintained +</I>>>><i> by tux99 +</I>>>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Oh, sweet! He's using FudForum - one of my favs and stable as all getup! +</I>>><i> Romain, don't you think we should have a link to the forum on the wiki page? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It is not a Mageia activity. I don't know... +</I> + +Well to finalize this consolodation we'll either need a commitment from +*tux99* to continue to provide forum services for our marcom lists or +we'll need to implement a new forum that is integrated w/the marcom +email lists. + +I would be happy either way, and at this point it appears as if we're +supported w/the FudForum implementation at <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum</A> + +><i> +</I>>><i> Yes, The last messages are from November, while other lists are as +</I>>><i> current as today. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The old messages are in a section of that forum, not related to the +</I>><i> lists, as much as I have seen. +</I> +Oh, so it's never been integrated w/a forum<==>list gateway? + +That would expalain why I don't see any messages from the list :) + +><i> +</I>>><i> Also, as it is pointed out at the link above, One is still required to +</I>>><i> subscribe to the mailing list in order for their forum posts to +</I>>><i> propagate to the list. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes. We have a web gui where you can subscribe to the lists: +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/</A> +</I> +That's not what I was referring to. Most forum software, when you +implement an email list gateway, requires you to register in the forums +with the same email address (This FudForum implementation is no +different, as per the instructions there) that you are subscribed to the +email list(s) with. + +So, if I'm subscribed to an email list as '<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">billg at msn.com</A>', then I need +to be registered with the forum software as having the same email +address - otherwise, my posts won't show up on the email list. + +This is a security feature, and it's not recommended to change this +(although one could). It prevents people not subscribed to the email +list that are registered with the forum software from posting into one +of the gateway'ed forums and those posts ending up on the email list(s). + +Right now I'm waiting for my forum subscription to be approved so I can +begin testing to see if it works. + +Basically, most *Mailman* email listservers URLs can be found at +<A HREF="http://SLD.TLD/mailman/listinfo">http://SLD.TLD/mailman/listinfo</A> - this is the case with Mageia, which +follows the standard vanilla install. + +You'll typically only see different URLs on shared hosting services +where, for example, cPanel/WHM are implemented. + + +><i> As you can see all these lists are platforms of contributors. The +</I>><i> forum will be mostly for userland but as we have seen at Mandriva we +</I>><i> need a bridge between these entities. +</I> +I'm not sure I understand what you mean by, "...these lists are +platforms of contributors." + +I don't see that. From what I see, there is only one Mailman Listserver, +located at <A HREF="http://mageia.org/mailman/listinfo,">http://mageia.org/mailman/listinfo,</A> and checking the RFC +headers from mails I'm receiving from various lists I'm subscribed to +there reveals (certainly appears) that it is a single instance of a +Mailman listerver installed. + +All the (various) list mailings I'm receiving are coming from the same +MX severs. + +><i> +</I>>><i> I've built many of both, and I just don't have the problems w/FudForum +</I>>><i> that I do with PhpBB. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Again, your mileage may differ. I have been running phpBB3 with +</I>><i> MandrivaUser.de for a year now, no problems at all + it is easy to +</I>><i> customize + it plays nicely with LDAP, which is essential. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But I think the (technical) forum people can say more about this. +</I> +Yes, I've been building and hosting various services for more than a +couple of decades, and I've seen forum software come and go. PhpBB is +nice, and full featured, yet since it is the most popular, there have +been more exploits revealed for it, requiring us to perform more than +the usual amount of patches and upgrades in keeping it secure. + +wrt both PhpBB and FudForum, I've only had to apply a security patch +twice for FudForum, and more than 15 patches or upgrades to PhpBB over +the span of the last decade or so. + +Regardless, they're both good, as long as you maintain them and +subscribe to the security lists so you can apply timely patches. + +It doesn't matter to me which one we use, and there are many other fine +forum packages out there as well.... + +But, if the existing one's are going to be a pain to administer, or are +too hard for n00bs to find, then I would suggest we implement this with +our existing hosting solutions on the mageia.org domain. + +Irrespective of which solution(s) we opt for, having the link to both +the mailing list(s) as well as the forum(s) on the marcom wiki page is +important, since that is the central point of entrance and information +for our group's activities. + +Kindest regards, + + +- -- +Bradley D. Thornton +Manager Network Services +NorthTech Computer +TEL: +1.760.666.2703 (US) +TEL: +44.702.405.1909 (UK) +<A HREF="http://NorthTech.US">http://NorthTech.US</A> + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Find this cert at x-<A HREF="hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net">hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net</A> + +iQEcBAEBAwAGBQJNPgS0AAoJEE1wgkIhr9j3nbkIAI438hn/QT3uQw31tH51k9Wr ++bu6hfV1Z1VpaVVP6m+B1Wt5cqXk+hhlxLv9W1omwnqbswS99Oozg6AdOGe9iZYO +hgXgfOcnuzJlOMc+Ph6IMX/avIbvGaZGnwrdrRuagL0fyvhiU4aCdOUV3YSR6ps3 +J42Fp6ojvGIQoYRExbFhMtsq7zp89qFA2sfStTT/HrSLf3LqJTbwVcc6hhKXQ3B5 +7Fd37ZktoPO35AqDBxyWF9Mxczb5TZSP5fILYguLXnmy1MK4lSMt8h1k1+3IhrmX +TdXqN9FBx23wIBCweii5k4TYZq/Hhlk8AbyIV8PkO9WZaObVBqDM05oy0IoJWNg= +=2lUl +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000071.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000073.html">[Mageia-marketing] Consolidation of email list and forum mediums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#72">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#72">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#72">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#72">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More information about the Mageia-marketing +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |