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It is titled, "Mageia logo - I don't like it". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But what he writes is very different from the usual "I don't like it, +</I>><i> it's ugly" posts. I explains in detail why he does not like it and why +</I>><i> he thinks it is not a good choice based on objective reasons. Although +</I>><i> I do not share his opinion I want to give credit to him because he did +</I>><i> not just complain, he put some thinking and time into explaining his +</I>><i> opinion. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> BTW: He explicitely states that he does not complain about the +</I>><i> decision finding process. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://skiperdrake.wordpress.com/2010/12/11/mageia-logo-i-am-not-happy-with-it/">http://skiperdrake.wordpress.com/2010/12/11/mageia-logo-i-am-not-happy-with-it/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Good reading, even if it is not my opinion :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I just thought about his blog entry and when I think about our Logo, i +</I>><i> see the following things in it: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Our logo represents the cauldron as it is the name of our testing +</I>><i> environment. A cauldron has something magical in it, you put things in +</I>><i> to it, and it comes something wonderful out of it, for someone not +</I>><i> knowing what the man/woman does it sounds like a mirracle. Isn't just +</I>><i> this the meaning of our philosophy? Providing the user a distribution +</I>><i> where he thinks wow it works, it don't know how but it works. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And that's a point I see when thinking about our logo. +</I> +I hardly see the cauldron and the nest there. I don't see anything of +all this in the logo. For me, it is just an accessibility sign that is +not pleasant but has just been made to comply to the most strict +guidelines and rules. + +Honestly, the more I try to cope with the logo, the more I actually +dislike it. I am really afraid of the sort of artwork I will have to +support with such an ugly white/black thing. A simple black line could +have been drawn, it would have been exactly the same. I use to like, or +at least cope with many things, even the Ia Ora theme I always described +as quite old looking, I still manage to appreciate it. But this logo +makes me really depress about what will come next. And what worries me +even more is that I am not alone at all in this situation. + +I am really sorry, but I just want to say the truth about how I feel +with this logo. I am so sorry, but I _really_ do not like this logo. In +the future, if there are trolls of bad comments on it, expect me to hate +it. I do not like myself being like this. I feel like my attitude is +wrong, but I can see Mageia as a credible project without a credible +logo. It may be serious, but not credible. + +I hope I am wrong and that Mageia will become popular and successful, +but I feel really sad when I see this logo I see as our flagship, and it +really deceives me. +There is nothing nice in it. + +All my apologies for this. I still accept it, but it is really hard to +cope with a flagship you find really depressing, while you really like +the project, want to participate in it and let it grow, working with +people you like. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101218/b9c24fc1/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003265.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003248.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3247">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3247">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3247">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3247">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003248.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003248.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..28a68b432 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003248.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimXFtmjS-RnLsUT77B_qkfkXpBPC_J%2BJ4DyKMbs%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003247.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003249.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimXFtmjS-RnLsUT77B_qkfkXpBPC_J%2BJ4DyKMbs%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 18 14:58:46 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003247.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003249.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3248">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3248">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3248">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3248">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/12/18 Thomas Lottmann <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">skiperdrake at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> Honestly, the more I try to cope with the logo, the more I actually dislike +</I>><i> it. I am really afraid of the sort of artwork I will have to support with +</I>><i> such an ugly white/black thing. A simple black line could have been drawn, +</I>><i> it would have been exactly the same. I use to like, or at least cope with +</I>><i> many things, even the Ia Ora theme I always described as quite old looking, +</I>><i> I still manage to appreciate it. But this logo makes me really depress about +</I>><i> what will come next. And what worries me even more is that I am not alone at +</I>><i> all in this situation. +</I> +Given a large enough number of people who comment about this you can +not be alone. A logo and/or visual design is always a topic with the +highest number of comments, so the probability of several people with +the same opinion is very high. This applies to all opinions about the +topic. The conclusion from this is that whatever design is chosen +there will be a certain number of people who will find it totally +ugly, not matching, disgusting, whatever. + +Thomas, whatever sort of artwork you will be supporting with the logo, +it will not be that "black/white thing" as you are afraid of. :) As +already announced the logo is in "refinement stage" and there will be +a logo for all official things coming from the association, while +communities will have a certain scale of freedom to change colors, +etc., policy about that following soon. + +So, all people looking at it and being scared by the "white/black +thing" - pls wait with your verdict until the whole process is over. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003247.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003249.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3248">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3248">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3248">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3248">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003249.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003249.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..81e1237ca --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003249.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3C201012181551.49435.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003248.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003251.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3C201012181551.49435.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 18 15:51:49 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003248.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003251.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3249">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3249">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3249">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3249">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> schrieb am 2010-12-18 +><i> Given a large enough number of people who comment about this you +</I>><i> can not be alone. A logo and/or visual design is always a topic +</I>><i> with the highest number of comments, so the probability of several +</I>><i> people with the same opinion is very high. This applies to all +</I>><i> opinions about the topic. The conclusion from this is that +</I>><i> whatever design is chosen there will be a certain number of people +</I>><i> who will find it totally ugly, not matching, disgusting, whatever. +</I> +And another point. As usualy only those, that disagree will say it +aloud. All the people, I've been in contact with (German community, +German i18n group as well as those of the international i18n people +who were in the IRC before our first meeting, were quite happy with it. + +So, saying: "everybody hates it" is just wrong. + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003248.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003251.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3249">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3249">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3249">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3249">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003250.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003250.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9c9d7c49d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003250.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3Cieik6g%24at9%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003246.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003252.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3Cieik6g%24at9%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 18 16:32:31 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003246.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003252.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3250">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3250">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3250">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3250">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-12-18 02:44, Juergen Harms a écrit : +><i> I just found this message from Florian Hubold in the cooker mailing list +</I>><i> +</I>><i> >todays update for mandriva-release-common from main/updates from +</I>><i> >2010.1 breaks mirrorlist and therefore urpm*-tools altogether +</I>><i> >when a placeholder like $RELEASE is used with mirrorlist, +</I>><i> >and as this seems to be the default setup, many machines +</I>><i> >will be hit by this, effectively disabling package management. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The server for the Mandriva forums appears to be (already?) broken, no +</I>><i> possibility to warn people via that evident way - maybe this copy can +</I>><i> help to minimise annoyance. +</I>><i> +</I> +Thanks, but too late for me. My urpmi is now broken! Doh! There is a +thread of it on usenet. I wonder how they will go about fixing this. +Plus, I manage about 40 desktops for users in need of help. Hmmmm ... + +Marc + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003246.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003252.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3250">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3250">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3250">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3250">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003251.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003251.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a93265681 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003251.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimTKDcOgrF_hKrq9_0RcfJSmLv%3DW0G%3Dmujr5RqX%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003249.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003256.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo</H1> + <B>Hoyt Duff</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimTKDcOgrF_hKrq9_0RcfJSmLv%3DW0G%3Dmujr5RqX%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo">hoytduff at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 18 16:36:27 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003249.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003256.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3251">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3251">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3251">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3251">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> So, saying: "everybody hates it" is just wrong. +</I> +And stating that "All the people, I've been in contact with ... were +quite happy with it." is just as meaningless. Neither statement is an +accurate representation of the feelings of the community as a whole. +And regardless of any feelings about it, it -is- our logo; the choice +has been made. + +I've noticed that many of the non-native English speakers have a +tendency to express their opinions in broad, absolute terms. Even +those of us who are native English speakers can get sloppy with our +choice of words. Misunderstanding often ensues. Some of that may be +cultural, some of that may be an artifact of translation and some may +be intentional; it is impossible to distinguish between the two, +especially in text messages. + +That makes having a productive debate difficult and frustrating. I +continue develop an appreciation for reading past the rhetoric (and +the grammar and syntax) to find the authentic message within. + +-- +Hoyt +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003249.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003256.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3251">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3251">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3251">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3251">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003252.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003252.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9c98a95a1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003252.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DdfnkiAs%2BW7e8ns1vyWv7e39yhM4ua0gFk2a3N%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003250.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003253.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***</H1> + <B>Hoyt Duff</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DdfnkiAs%2BW7e8ns1vyWv7e39yhM4ua0gFk2a3N%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***">hoytduff at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 18 16:36:49 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003250.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003253.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3252">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3252">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3252">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3252">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 12/18/10, Marc Paré <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Le 2010-12-18 02:44, Juergen Harms a écrit : +</I>>><i> I just found this message from Florian Hubold in the cooker mailing list +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> >todays update for mandriva-release-common from main/updates from +</I>>><i> >2010.1 breaks mirrorlist and therefore urpm*-tools altogether +</I>>><i> >when a placeholder like $RELEASE is used with mirrorlist, +</I>>><i> >and as this seems to be the default setup, many machines +</I>>><i> >will be hit by this, effectively disabling package management. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The server for the Mandriva forums appears to be (already?) broken, no +</I>>><i> possibility to warn people via that evident way - maybe this copy can +</I>>><i> help to minimise annoyance. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks, but too late for me. My urpmi is now broken! Doh! There is a +</I>><i> thread of it on usenet. I wonder how they will go about fixing this. +</I>><i> Plus, I manage about 40 desktops for users in need of help. Hmmmm ... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> + +-- +Hoyt +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003250.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003253.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3252">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3252">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3252">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3252">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003253.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003253.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5b5c209cb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003253.html @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DPjmiVxFtF_t__f9tddsA7vSKzYjoYPuuVJOAD%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003252.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003254.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***</H1> + <B>Hoyt Duff</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DPjmiVxFtF_t__f9tddsA7vSKzYjoYPuuVJOAD%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***">hoytduff at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 18 16:37:41 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003252.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003254.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3253">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3253">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3253">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3253">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Sorry for that empty post. + +What is the fix? + +-- +Hoyt +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003252.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003254.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3253">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3253">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3253">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3253">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003254.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003254.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cf60f9081 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003254.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3C20101218153959.5d5b0c31%40otfordduckscomputers.co.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003253.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003255.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***</H1> + <B>Margot</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3C20101218153959.5d5b0c31%40otfordduckscomputers.co.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***">margot at otfordduckscomputers.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 18 16:39:59 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003253.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003255.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3254">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3254">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3254">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3254">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 10:32:31 -0500 +Marc Paré <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> Le 2010-12-18 02:44, Juergen Harms a écrit : +</I>><i> > I just found this message from Florian Hubold in the cooker +</I>><i> > mailing list +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > >todays update for mandriva-release-common from main/updates +</I>><i> > >from 2010.1 breaks mirrorlist and therefore urpm*-tools +</I>><i> > >altogether when a placeholder like $RELEASE is used with +</I>><i> > >mirrorlist, and as this seems to be the default setup, many +</I>><i> > >machines will be hit by this, effectively disabling package +</I>><i> > >management. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > The server for the Mandriva forums appears to be (already?) +</I>><i> > broken, no possibility to warn people via that evident way - +</I>><i> > maybe this copy can help to minimise annoyance. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks, but too late for me. My urpmi is now broken! Doh! There +</I>><i> is a thread of it on usenet. I wonder how they will go about +</I>><i> fixing this. Plus, I manage about 40 desktops for users in need +</I>><i> of help. Hmmmm ... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I>Instructions for fixing the problem are here: + +<A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=61941">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=61941</A> + +-- +Margot +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +**Otford Ducks Computers** +We teach, you learn... +...and, if you don't do your homework, we set the cat on you! +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003253.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003255.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3254">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3254">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3254">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3254">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003255.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003255.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..61475fc3d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003255.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3Cieimb2%24jot%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003254.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003257.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3Cieimb2%24jot%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 18 17:09:04 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003254.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003257.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3255">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3255">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3255">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3255">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2010-12-18 10:39, Margot a écrit : +><i> On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 10:32:31 -0500 +</I>><i> Marc Paré<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Le 2010-12-18 02:44, Juergen Harms a écrit : +</I>>>><i> I just found this message from Florian Hubold in the cooker +</I>>>><i> mailing list +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> >todays update for mandriva-release-common from main/updates +</I>>>><i> >from 2010.1 breaks mirrorlist and therefore urpm*-tools +</I>>>><i> >altogether when a placeholder like $RELEASE is used with +</I>>>><i> >mirrorlist, and as this seems to be the default setup, many +</I>>>><i> >machines will be hit by this, effectively disabling package +</I>>>><i> >management. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> The server for the Mandriva forums appears to be (already?) +</I>>>><i> broken, no possibility to warn people via that evident way - +</I>>>><i> maybe this copy can help to minimise annoyance. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Thanks, but too late for me. My urpmi is now broken! Doh! There +</I>>><i> is a thread of it on usenet. I wonder how they will go about +</I>>><i> fixing this. Plus, I manage about 40 desktops for users in need +</I>>><i> of help. Hmmmm ... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Marc +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Instructions for fixing the problem are here: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=61941">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=61941</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +Yes, but as stated in the follow up discussions, new users will most +likely not know how to fix it on their own. I imagine, as stated in one +of the replies, that Mdv will have to create 2010.2 repositories and +send out another updated through these repositories to fix the problem. + +Marc + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003254.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003257.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3255">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3255">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3255">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3255">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003256.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003256.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..df484b40f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003256.html @@ -0,0 +1,115 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3C4D0CE070.7050705%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003251.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo</H1> + <B>Thomas Lottmann</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3C4D0CE070.7050705%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo">skiperdrake at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 18 17:25:20 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003251.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3256">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3256">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3256">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3256">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 18/12/2010 14:58, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +><i> Given a large enough number of people who comment about this you can +</I>><i> not be alone. A logo and/or visual design is always a topic with the +</I>><i> highest number of comments, so the probability of several people with +</I>><i> the same opinion is very high. This applies to all opinions about the +</I>><i> topic. The conclusion from this is that whatever design is chosen +</I>><i> there will be a certain number of people who will find it totally +</I>><i> ugly, not matching, disgusting, whatever. +</I> +Well, yes... the ratio it depends then on the logo. :) + +><i> Thomas, whatever sort of artwork you will be supporting with the logo, +</I>><i> it will not be that "black/white thing" as you are afraid of. :) As +</I>><i> already announced the logo is in "refinement stage" and there will be +</I>><i> a logo for all official things coming from the association, while +</I>><i> communities will have a certain scale of freedom to change colors, +</I>><i> etc., policy about that following soon. +</I> +Ah, I did not know that. Is it written somewhere to know what I have missed? + +><i> So, all people looking at it and being scared by the "white/black +</I>><i> thing" - pls wait with your verdict until the whole process is over. +</I> +All right. ;) + + +><i> And another point. As usualy only those, that disagree will say it +</I>><i> aloud. All the people, I've been in contact with (German community, +</I>><i> German i18n group as well as those of the international i18n people +</I>><i> who were in the IRC before our first meeting, were quite happy with it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, saying: "everybody hates it" is just wrong. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oliver +</I> +I have never said everybody hates it. From what I see, there are many +people who appreciate it, but there seem to be many other who do not as +well. Hard to estimate though, I am awaiting the comments from the press +side and see if it widely reused or not, and if it is easy and effective +on the marketing side. + +Then, as I have said previously, you have had the opinions from people +you are in contact with, me as well (essentially from the school where I +am studying computing). This does not add much to the issue, except it +is difficult to estimate the impact of the logo then. + +Now, the logo is in refinement stage, I am in wait & see mode now. After +all, there are as simple (and not easy to appreciate) logos such as +HTC's one, that are not reused at all, but are okay on products +depending on the way they are presented and set. + +It's okay, I won't moan anymore until the final adaptations of the logo, +promise. :-) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003251.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3256">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3256">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3256">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3256">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003257.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003257.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d72bc6126 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003257.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3C695188.35241.qm%40web29601.mail.ird.yahoo.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003255.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003262.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***</H1> + <B>Catalin Florin RUSSEN</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3C695188.35241.qm%40web29601.mail.ird.yahoo.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***">cfrussen at yahoo.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 18 18:09:18 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003255.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003262.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3257">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3257">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3257">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3257">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +><i> > Instructions for fixing the problem are here: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=61941">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=61941</A> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, but as stated in the follow up discussions, new users will most +</I>><i> likely not know how to fix it on their own. I imagine, as stated in one +</I>><i> of the replies, that Mdv will have to create 2010.2 repositories and +</I>><i> send out another updated through these repositories to fix the problem. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>><i> +</I> +Thanks for the info, I won't update my Mandriva desktop till safe. + +Best regards, +Florin Catalin RUSSEN +Romanian Translation Team + + + + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003255.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003262.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3257">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3257">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3257">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3257">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003258.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003258.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..831a93946 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003258.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3C20101218194444.GC18333%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003262.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003259.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***</H1> + <B>Michael scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3C20101218194444.GC18333%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 18 20:44:44 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003262.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003259.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3258">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3258">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3258">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3258">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 08:44:00AM +0100, Juergen Harms wrote: +><i> I just found this message from Florian Hubold in the cooker mailing list +</I>><i> +</I>><i> >todays update for mandriva-release-common from main/updates from +</I>><i> >2010.1 breaks mirrorlist and therefore urpm*-tools altogether +</I>><i> >when a placeholder like $RELEASE is used with mirrorlist, +</I>><i> >and as this seems to be the default setup, many machines +</I>><i> >will be hit by this, effectively disabling package management. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The server for the Mandriva forums appears to be (already?) broken, +</I>><i> no possibility to warn people via that evident way - maybe this copy +</I>><i> can help to minimise annoyance. +</I> +Ok, so I doubt people will listen to me, and I know that you are trying to help, +but this is mageia-discuss, not mandriva-discuss. + +If we start to discuss Mandriva breakage and evolution here, people will not +really see the 2 community as separate. And if they do not see us as a separate +community, we will carry the bad reputation of Mandriva for the next 10 years +because people will think "mageia == mandriva". + +As you surely doubt, reputation is z problem that can be quite hard and long +to overcome as we learned in the past, and quite damaging for the success of a project +in the long run. So it +is better to start now, by simply being fully separate from Mandriva and by doing everything +we can to make sure we are not seen as a 2nd Mandriva. And this include seeing Mageia +community as a separate entity, not as another Mandriva users community. + +So in the light of this explanation, could people please keep Mandriva related topic +on Mandriva mailling list ? + +-- +Michael Scherer +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003262.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003259.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3258">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3258">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3258">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3258">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003259.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003259.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0aceac03e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003259.html @@ -0,0 +1,115 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DZKZMxtBtVNQvynPuU7_v6x7548YbCpaPGfud-%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003258.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003260.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***</H1> + <B>Diego Bello</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DZKZMxtBtVNQvynPuU7_v6x7548YbCpaPGfud-%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***">dbello at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 18 21:30:24 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003258.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003260.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3259">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3259">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3259">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3259">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Michael scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: + +><i> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 08:44:00AM +0100, Juergen Harms wrote: +</I>><i> > I just found this message from Florian Hubold in the cooker mailing list +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > >todays update for mandriva-release-common from main/updates from +</I>><i> > >2010.1 breaks mirrorlist and therefore urpm*-tools altogether +</I>><i> > >when a placeholder like $RELEASE is used with mirrorlist, +</I>><i> > >and as this seems to be the default setup, many machines +</I>><i> > >will be hit by this, effectively disabling package management. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > The server for the Mandriva forums appears to be (already?) broken, +</I>><i> > no possibility to warn people via that evident way - maybe this copy +</I>><i> > can help to minimise annoyance. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ok, so I doubt people will listen to me, and I know that you are trying to +</I>><i> help, +</I>><i> but this is mageia-discuss, not mandriva-discuss. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If we start to discuss Mandriva breakage and evolution here, people will +</I>><i> not +</I>><i> really see the 2 community as separate. And if they do not see us as a +</I>><i> separate +</I>><i> community, we will carry the bad reputation of Mandriva for the next 10 +</I>><i> years +</I>><i> because people will think "mageia == mandriva". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As you surely doubt, reputation is z problem that can be quite hard and +</I>><i> long +</I>><i> to overcome as we learned in the past, and quite damaging for the success +</I>><i> of a project +</I>><i> in the long run. So it +</I>><i> is better to start now, by simply being fully separate from Mandriva and by +</I>><i> doing everything +</I>><i> we can to make sure we are not seen as a 2nd Mandriva. And this include +</I>><i> seeing Mageia +</I>><i> community as a separate entity, not as another Mandriva users community. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So in the light of this explanation, could people please keep Mandriva +</I>><i> related topic +</I>><i> on Mandriva mailling list ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Michael Scherer +</I>><i> +</I> +Considering that most of us here are still using Mandriva, cause there has +not been a Mageia release yet, it is important that we know something can be +broken in the system we use to work and collaborate to Mageia. + +I do agree that, in the near future, we should focus only in Mageia, but for +now we are still in between worlds. + +-- +Diego Bello Carreño +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101218/e8b51e2b/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003258.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003260.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3259">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3259">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3259">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3259">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003260.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003260.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..35249f2c5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003260.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinZpk8Z5Oe7WT-PrHtYJE%2Bjxq6t%2Bwi9%3DpVvvknJ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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What - quote - "Mandriva mailing list" do you refer to? + +You did not get the point: +1. Installing the latest updates from Mandriva threatens to make people +lose substantial time +2. The Mandriva forum - the proper place to broadcast such a warning - +is down +3. The large majority of people on this Mageia list use Mandriva and are +concerned by this issue. + +So ??? Do you really expect that I just watch smilingly how people whom +I estimate and who devote a tremendous amount of time to build Mageia +risk to waste their time? + +I understand that doing things in an organised way is essential, but +following principles blindly is just as bad has not considering +principles at all! + +Grrrr!!! Let us stop that discussion on this list - I hope that some +time we will have the occasion have a glass of something good together +to talk this out between us. +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003263.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003264.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3261">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3261">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3261">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3261">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003262.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003262.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d8722b13f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/003262.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik8ZC76VF5jYw56RB0G-N_N3aHYbrQFEjcEJbnK%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003257.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003258.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***</H1> + <B>Andres Kaaber</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mandriva%20breakage%20warning%20%2A%2A%2A%20important%20%2A%2A%2A&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik8ZC76VF5jYw56RB0G-N_N3aHYbrQFEjcEJbnK%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important ***">andres.kaaber at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 18 22:20:01 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003257.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003258.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3262">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3262">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3262">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3262">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Ok that explains alot :) just installed two machines and noticed that +mandriva version is 2010.2 :) but all looks good. + +2010/12/18 Catalin Florin RUSSEN <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cfrussen at yahoo.co.uk</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> > Instructions for fixing the  problem are here: +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=61941">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=61941</A> +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Yes, but as  stated in the follow up discussions, new users will most +</I>>><i> likely not know how  to fix it on their own. I imagine, as stated in one +</I>>><i> of the replies, that Mdv  will have to create 2010.2 repositories and +</I>>><i> send out another updated through  these repositories to fix the problem. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Marc +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks for the info, I won't update my Mandriva desktop till safe. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Best regards, +</I>><i> Florin Catalin RUSSEN +</I>><i> Romanian Translation Team +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +A. 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Your warning was usefull. +Frédéric +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003264.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva breakage warning *** important *** +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003247.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3265">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3265">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3265">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3265">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ab5f80dba --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101218/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,147 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 18 December 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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