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+ <B>Thomas Lottmann</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo">skiperdrake at gmail.com
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+ <I>Sat Dec 18 11:35:40 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Le 17/12/2010 22:09, Daniel Kreuter a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I want to point to skiper's blog, who gave the whole &quot;Logo&quot; issue some
+</I>&gt;<i> thought. It is titled, &quot;Mageia logo - I don't like it&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But what he writes is very different from the usual &quot;I don't like it,
+</I>&gt;<i> it's ugly&quot; posts. I explains in detail why he does not like it and why
+</I>&gt;<i> he thinks it is not a good choice based on objective reasons. Although
+</I>&gt;<i> I do not share his opinion I want to give credit to him because he did
+</I>&gt;<i> not just complain, he put some thinking and time into explaining his
+</I>&gt;<i> opinion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW: He explicitely states that he does not complain about the
+</I>&gt;<i> decision finding process.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://skiperdrake.wordpress.com/2010/12/11/mageia-logo-i-am-not-happy-with-it/">http://skiperdrake.wordpress.com/2010/12/11/mageia-logo-i-am-not-happy-with-it/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good reading, even if it is not my opinion :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just thought about his blog entry and when I think about our Logo, i
+</I>&gt;<i> see the following things in it:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Our logo represents the cauldron as it is the name of our testing
+</I>&gt;<i> environment. A cauldron has something magical in it, you put things in
+</I>&gt;<i> to it, and it comes something wonderful out of it, for someone not
+</I>&gt;<i> knowing what the man/woman does it sounds like a mirracle. Isn't just
+</I>&gt;<i> this the meaning of our philosophy? Providing the user a distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> where he thinks wow it works, it don't know how but it works.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And that's a point I see when thinking about our logo.
+</I>
+I hardly see the cauldron and the nest there. I don't see anything of
+all this in the logo. For me, it is just an accessibility sign that is
+not pleasant but has just been made to comply to the most strict
+guidelines and rules.
+
+Honestly, the more I try to cope with the logo, the more I actually
+dislike it. I am really afraid of the sort of artwork I will have to
+support with such an ugly white/black thing. A simple black line could
+have been drawn, it would have been exactly the same. I use to like, or
+at least cope with many things, even the Ia Ora theme I always described
+as quite old looking, I still manage to appreciate it. But this logo
+makes me really depress about what will come next. And what worries me
+even more is that I am not alone at all in this situation.
+
+I am really sorry, but I just want to say the truth about how I feel
+with this logo. I am so sorry, but I _really_ do not like this logo. In
+the future, if there are trolls of bad comments on it, expect me to hate
+it. I do not like myself being like this. I feel like my attitude is
+wrong, but I can see Mageia as a credible project without a credible
+logo. It may be serious, but not credible.
+
+I hope I am wrong and that Mageia will become popular and successful,
+but I feel really sad when I see this logo I see as our flagship, and it
+really deceives me.
+There is nothing nice in it.
+
+All my apologies for this. I still accept it, but it is really hard to
+cope with a flagship you find really depressing, while you really like
+the project, want to participate in it and let it grow, working with
+people you like.
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