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+ <B>isadora</B>
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+<PRE>Samuel,
+
+Am i allowed placing your message into the Dutch Mandriva-forum? (
+mandrivaclub.nl)
+
+Thanks in advance,
+
+Isadora
+
+2010/10/12 Samuel Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Hello everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The Association of French-speaking Mandrivalinux users ( AUFML, Association
+</I>&gt;<i> des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux, <A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A> )
+</I>&gt;<i> will have a booth at the Free Software Days ( JDLL, Journ&#233;es du Logiciel
+</I>&gt;<i> Libre, <A HREF="http://www.jdll.org">http://www.jdll.org</A> ), in Lyon, France, on October 14th, 15th and
+</I>&gt;<i> 16th.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We chose to represent both Mandriva Linux and Mageia. However, you probably
+</I>&gt;<i> guess that most of us are more interested in Mageia, and we think that
+</I>&gt;<i> people there will also be interested in it. We hope to be able to talk about
+</I>&gt;<i> this project to many people and convince some of them to try Mageia's first
+</I>&gt;<i> release when it's ready, or better yet to contribute.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We prepared some materials (in French) :
+</I>&gt;<i> - colourful flyer with a quick explanation, FAQ's extracts, useful links,
+</I>&gt;<i> and some logos from the flick collection :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivafr.org/dossiers/association/Mageia/tract09.pdf">http://www.mandrivafr.org/dossiers/association/Mageia/tract09.pdf</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> - the text from mageia.org/fr :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivafr.org/dossiers/association/Mageia/tract_1b_Mageia_(2pages">http://www.mandrivafr.org/dossiers/association/Mageia/tract_1b_Mageia_(2pages</A>).pdf&lt;<A HREF="http://www.mandrivafr.org/dossiers/association/Mageia/tract_1b_Mageia_%282pages%29.pdf">http://www.mandrivafr.org/dossiers/association/Mageia/tract_1b_Mageia_%282pages%29.pdf</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> - bordeaux poster (wine's color, we're not far from Beaujolais :)) :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivafr.org/dossiers/association/Mageia/mageia%20bordeaux.pdf">http://www.mandrivafr.org/dossiers/association/Mageia/mageia%20bordeaux.pdf</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We'll try to report back after the event :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
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+Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 10:29:13, isadora a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Samuel,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Am i allowed placing your message into the Dutch Mandriva-forum? (
+</I>&gt;<i> mandrivaclub.nl)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks in advance,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Isadora
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+(note : on mailing lists it's better to reply below the text, not above :))
+
+Yes you can put this message on the Dutch forum if you want. Can I ask why ? :)
+
+Regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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+ <B>isadora</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia/AUFML%20at%20the%20Free%20Software%20Days%20in%20Lyon%2C%0A%09France&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikh4sEGLhFEUdh6uRcRvckFVy8Ca-KkWeTrEY2w%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+ <I>Wed Oct 13 10:42:54 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>People are interested, but also a bit reserved, where it comes to Mageia.
+I try to keep them interested, because i think it is going to lead
+somewhere.
+It is good to let them know, there are all kind of activities on right now.
+
+Thanks for your quick reply.
+
+Isadora
+
+2010/10/13 Samuel Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 10:29:13, isadora a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Samuel,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Am i allowed placing your message into the Dutch Mandriva-forum? (
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mandrivaclub.nl)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks in advance,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Isadora
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (note : on mailing lists it's better to reply below the text, not above :))
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes you can put this message on the Dutch forum if you want. Can I ask why
+</I>&gt;<i> ? :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 10:42:54, isadora a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> People are interested, but also a bit reserved, where it comes to Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> I try to keep them interested, because i think it is going to lead
+</I>&gt;<i> somewhere.
+</I>&gt;<i> It is good to let them know, there are all kind of activities on right now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for your quick reply.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Samuel gives the link to the pdf, but he forgot to give the link to the sla :
+
+<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org/dossiers/association/Mageia/tract09.sla">http://mandrivafr.org/dossiers/association/Mageia/tract09.sla</A>
+
+it requires scribus 1.3.6. I guess with layer it would be possible to create a
+multilanguage file and export just the language required. I can do it if i get
+translations of the texts
+
+Olivier
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+
+as Mageia core values have been published (<A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/about/values/">http://mageia.org/en/about/values/</A> ),
+we adjusted the artwork guidelines for the new identity.
+
+Thanks for all the amazing work you've already done from the very start.
+
+Now you have until october 28th 2010 to carry on and express your creativity.
+
+Please refer to the artwork guidelines for more information:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide</A>
+
+Just remind that we need a logo that:
+ - can identify directly Mageia Project
+ - may symbolize one or all Mageia values
+ - does not refer to existing brand
+ - fits the guidelines mentionned on the wiki page
+
+You can now define or refine your proposal and submit it on the flickr gallery
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/">http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/</A>
+
+Caroline Garlatti (Caro) will lead and coordinate the logo selection with
+the founders board and the marketing/communication teams (contact
+info at the bottom of the guidelines page).
+
+Thanks again for all the invaluable insights.
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Graham Lauder</B>
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 13 Oct 2010 23:22:31 Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as Mageia core values have been published
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/about/values/">http://mageia.org/en/about/values/</A> ), we adjusted the artwork guidelines
+</I>&gt;<i> for the new identity.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for all the amazing work you've already done from the very start.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now you have until october 28th 2010 to carry on and express your
+</I>&gt;<i> creativity.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please refer to the artwork guidelines for more information:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just remind that we need a logo that:
+</I>&gt;<i> - can identify directly Mageia Project
+</I>&gt;<i> - may symbolize one or all Mageia values
+</I>&gt;<i> - does not refer to existing brand
+</I>&gt;<i> - fits the guidelines mentionned on the wiki page
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can now define or refine your proposal and submit it on the flickr
+</I>&gt;<i> gallery <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/">http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Caroline Garlatti (Caro) will lead and coordinate the logo selection with
+</I>&gt;<i> the founders board and the marketing/communication teams (contact
+</I>&gt;<i> info at the bottom of the guidelines page).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks again for all the invaluable insights.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+Can I request a pause on this, from a marketing POV we need to finalise
+branding elements including Pallet, a marketing plan, identifying target
+markets and finish the vision and mission. All of these will influence the
+design. Also the logo is an isolated element in the overall branding. Any
+competition should include all of these elements such as:
+
+Color Pallet
+Title Font Face
+Text Font Font Face
+Logo
+Logo positioning and surround
+Header design
+Banners
+Favicon
+Letterheads
+
+None of these can be designed in isolation, there is still quite a bit of work
+to do before we get to this point.
+
+However having said all that, all of the above can be worked in grayscale and
+I would definitely like to see some pallet suggestions including the target
+demographic the pallet is aimed at. Also the elements in place in their
+intended environment, from posters and event banners and letterheads and
+stationery right down to website favicon.
+
+cheers
+GL
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can I request a pause on this, from a marketing POV we need to finalise
+</I>&gt;<i> branding elements including Pallet, &#160;a marketing plan, identifying target
+</I>&gt;<i> markets and finish the vision and mission. &#160;All of these will influence the
+</I>&gt;<i> design. &#160;Also the logo is an isolated element in the overall branding. &#160;Any
+</I>&gt;<i> competition should include all of these elements such as:
+</I>
+While I regard this careful &quot;step-by-step&quot; approach as the right way
+to face the task I still am not in the same boat regarding this
+&quot;target market&quot; restriction. It is a restriction because selecting one
+target automaticlly de-selects everything else. Of course you can't
+please everybody so the logo will definitely not draw attention of one
+group while it will be perfect for other groups. But the tighter you
+define a &quot;target market&quot;, the smaller is the group you will reach with
+such a selection and the larger is the group which you do not reach.
+
+A good example was the Tux with stars in his eyes, the main symbol of
+the LE2005 version of Mandrakelinux. It was meant for a special target
+market (which was delighted!) and at the same time did severe damage
+to the distribution because it totally missed other markets. It's an
+extreme example how you can do totally wrong while thinking you are
+following a &quot;target&quot; strategy.
+
+--
+wobo
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-13 12:40, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2010/10/13 Graham Lauder&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">yorick_ at openoffice.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can I request a pause on this, from a marketing POV we need to finalise
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> branding elements including Pallet, a marketing plan, identifying target
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> markets and finish the vision and mission. All of these will influence the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> design. Also the logo is an isolated element in the overall branding. Any
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> competition should include all of these elements such as:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While I regard this careful &quot;step-by-step&quot; approach as the right way
+</I>&gt;<i> to face the task I still am not in the same boat regarding this
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;target market&quot; restriction. It is a restriction because selecting one
+</I>&gt;<i> target automaticlly de-selects everything else. Of course you can't
+</I>&gt;<i> please everybody so the logo will definitely not draw attention of one
+</I>&gt;<i> group while it will be perfect for other groups. But the tighter you
+</I>&gt;<i> define a &quot;target market&quot;, the smaller is the group you will reach with
+</I>&gt;<i> such a selection and the larger is the group which you do not reach.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A good example was the Tux with stars in his eyes, the main symbol of
+</I>&gt;<i> the LE2005 version of Mandrakelinux. It was meant for a special target
+</I>&gt;<i> market (which was delighted!) and at the same time did severe damage
+</I>&gt;<i> to the distribution because it totally missed other markets. It's an
+</I>&gt;<i> extreme example how you can do totally wrong while thinking you are
+</I>&gt;<i> following a &quot;target&quot; strategy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi Wolfgang:
+
+I think Graham is trying to voice (I agree with him at this point) is
+that the marketing/communications committee is working through steps
+that lead to branding suggestions. We are almost done with the
+groundwork and holding off a bit would help us in completing and
+presenting our suggestions.
+
+This is not a case of branding a targeted group at this point but the
+overall flavour of the Mageia brand. We just need a little more time to
+finalize our work. We are almost there.
+
+Marc
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think Graham is trying to voice (I agree with him at this point) is that
+</I>&gt;<i> the marketing/communications committee is working through steps that lead to
+</I>&gt;<i> branding suggestions. We are almost done with the groundwork and holding off
+</I>&gt;<i> a bit would help us in completing and presenting our suggestions.
+</I>
+As I wrote I do agree as well.
+
+&gt;<i> This is not a case of branding a targeted group at this point but the
+</I>&gt;<i> overall flavour of the Mageia brand.
+</I>
+Uh, sorry, I thought he wrote &quot;identifying target markets&quot;, may be I
+did not read it right? I am not talking about the time when this will
+be done but rather voice another warning about being too restrictive
+while doing that &quot;indentifying target markets&quot;, whenever that will be.
+I still remember the previous discussion about such restrictive
+targets as &quot;young couples&quot; and the like, basing the procedure on
+demographic statistics of certain parts of the world.
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+&gt;<i> 2010/10/13 Marc Par&#233;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think Graham is trying to voice (I agree with him at this point) is that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the marketing/communications committee is working through steps that lead to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> branding suggestions. We are almost done with the groundwork and holding off
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a bit would help us in completing and presenting our suggestions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As I wrote I do agree as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is not a case of branding a targeted group at this point but the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> overall flavour of the Mageia brand.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Uh, sorry, I thought he wrote &quot;identifying target markets&quot;, may be I
+</I>&gt;<i> did not read it right? I am not talking about the time when this will
+</I>&gt;<i> be done but rather voice another warning about being too restrictive
+</I>&gt;<i> while doing that &quot;indentifying target markets&quot;, whenever that will be.
+</I>&gt;<i> I still remember the previous discussion about such restrictive
+</I>&gt;<i> targets as &quot;young couples&quot; and the like, basing the procedure on
+</I>&gt;<i> demographic statistics of certain parts of the world.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks Wolfgang.
+
+Your concerns have been well received. Just keep reminding us of this. I
+think &quot;targeting groups&quot; campaign can be better described as projects to
+enlarge the Mageia family branches. It is not, in any way, meant to
+dilute the main vision behind the Mageia project. In my opinion the
+Mageia distro should be seen as an &quot;open arms and welcoming distro&quot;
+rather than a &quot;crossed arms and restrictive distro&quot;.
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+Marc
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+Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> 2010/10/13 Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think Graham is trying to voice (I agree with him at this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; point) is that the marketing/communications committee is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; working through steps that lead to branding suggestions. We are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; almost done with the groundwork and holding off a bit would
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; help us in completing and presenting our suggestions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As I wrote I do agree as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This is not a case of branding a targeted group at this point
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but the overall flavour of the Mageia brand.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Uh, sorry, I thought he wrote &quot;identifying target markets&quot;, may
+</I>&gt;<i> be I did not read it right? I am not talking about the time when
+</I>&gt;<i> this will be done but rather voice another warning about being
+</I>&gt;<i> too restrictive while doing that &quot;indentifying target markets&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> whenever that will be. I still remember the previous discussion
+</I>&gt;<i> about such restrictive targets as &quot;young couples&quot; and the like,
+</I>&gt;<i> basing the procedure on demographic statistics of certain parts
+</I>&gt;<i> of the world.
+</I>
+Our target market should be &quot;current and future Linux users
+worldwide, male and female, aged 0 upwards&quot;.
+
+--
+Margot
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 19:39:32 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2010/10/13 Marc Par&#233;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think Graham is trying to voice (I agree with him at this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> point) is that the marketing/communications committee is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> working through steps that lead to branding suggestions. We are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> almost done with the groundwork and holding off a bit would
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> help us in completing and presenting our suggestions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As I wrote I do agree as well.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is not a case of branding a targeted group at this point
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but the overall flavour of the Mageia brand.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Uh, sorry, I thought he wrote &quot;identifying target markets&quot;, may
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be I did not read it right? I am not talking about the time when
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this will be done but rather voice another warning about being
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> too restrictive while doing that &quot;indentifying target markets&quot;,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whenever that will be. I still remember the previous discussion
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> about such restrictive targets as &quot;young couples&quot; and the like,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> basing the procedure on demographic statistics of certain parts
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of the world.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Our target market should be &quot;current and future Linux users
+</I>&gt;<i> worldwide, male and female, aged 0 upwards&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yay! I fit in this range! :-)
+
+Marc
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+&gt;<i> Our target market should be &quot;current and future Linux users
+</I>&gt;<i> worldwide, male and female, aged 0 upwards&quot;.
+</I>Are you being excessively opportunistic or not opportunistic at all?
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+ <B>Rick Stockton</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Wish List">rickstockton at reno-computerhelp.com
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+ <I>Wed Oct 13 01:30:03 CEST 2010</I>
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+
+I wish that the 'Release Naming Scheme' could be isolated to a separate
+Thread, because wish-list suggestions for software are becoming buried.
+But I have thoughts on this topic, here they are:
+
+I think that the primary &quot;attractions&quot; of a Year-based naming scheme
+(2011.0, 2011.1, etc.) are (A) the fact that Mandriva has been using it
+for many years; (B) the marketing advantage of a name which
+[i]automatically[/i] indicates the software to be new and sexy, &quot;this
+year's model&quot;; and (C) the fact that still provides a relatively simple
+way to sort RPMs by Release. But I strongly, [b]strongly[/b] dislike the
+notion of skipping digits to indicate a &quot;Month&quot; or &quot;Quarter&quot; of the
+Release. Too tricky, too obscure, and leaves everyone wondering &quot;did I
+miss something&quot;?
+
+In contrast, The Fedora Method is really, really good: Ultra-easy sorting
+and string-based selection; no embarrassing indication that you're &quot;late&quot;
+in finalizing your Release. And so, unless matching Mandriva RPM names is
+really important, I suggest to follow the examples of Fedora and
+Microsoft: Use whole numbers, they're ultra-simple.
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+<LI><A HREF="002364.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<LI><A HREF="002367.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection
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+<I>Graham Lauder
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+<LI><A HREF="002369.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection
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+<I>Margot
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+
+<LI><A HREF="002360.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia/AUFML at the Free Software Days in Lyon, France
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+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="002365.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection
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+<I>Marc Par&#233;
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+<I>Marc Par&#233;
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+<I>Marc Par&#233;
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+<I>Cazzaniga Sandro
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+</A><A NAME="2394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rick Stockton
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+<I>Lucas.Betschart at crypto.ch
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+<I>Rick Stockton
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+<LI><A HREF="002357.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia/AUFML at the Free Software Days in Lyon, France
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+<I>isadora
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+<LI><A HREF="002358.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia/AUFML at the Free Software Days in Lyon, France
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+<LI><A HREF="002359.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia/AUFML at the Free Software Days in Lyon, France
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+<LI><A HREF="002360.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia/AUFML at the Free Software Days in Lyon, France
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+<LI><A HREF="002361.html">[Mageia-discuss] Work for Mageia
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+<I>Lucas.Betschart at crypto.ch
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+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+<LI><A HREF="002358.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia/AUFML at the Free Software Days in Lyon, France
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+<I>Samuel Verschelde
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+<LI><A HREF="002359.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia/AUFML at the Free Software Days in Lyon, France
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+<LI><A HREF="002360.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia/AUFML at the Free Software Days in Lyon, France
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+<I>Rick Stockton
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+</A><A NAME="2365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286965351-01286975392-01286988048-01286989502-01286991572- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002367.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection
+</A><A NAME="2367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286965351-01286975392-01286988048-01286989502-01286991572-01286992765- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002368.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection
+</A><A NAME="2368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286965351-01286975392-01286988048-01286989502-01286991572-01286992906- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002369.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection
+</A><A NAME="2369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Margot
+</I>
+
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+<LI><A HREF="002370.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection
+</A><A NAME="2370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01286965351-01286975392-01286988048-01286989502-01286991572-01286992906-01286997086- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002371.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection
+</A><A NAME="2371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
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+<LI><A HREF="002366.html">[Mageia-discuss] wiki responsable
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+<I>Cazzaniga Sandro
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