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+<PRE>On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, [UTF-8] andr&#195;&#169; wrote:
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> I had mostly decided to take myBB since it has a very good reputation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and is considered relatively secure (and this check I did confirms
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that), but since I discovered FUDforum a few days ago and tested it on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the weekend I have now decided that FUDforum is the ideal choice for me
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (and IMHO also for the Mageia forum).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To me, the translations available, and their quality, are important
+</I>&gt;<i> factors for forum software.
+</I>&gt;<i> The phpBB presentation on their site looks good, and they have a lot of
+</I>&gt;<i> translations available - as plugins.
+</I>&gt;<i> But the FUDforum site - and the translations available - is really
+</I>&gt;<i> impressive.
+</I>&gt;<i> Many languages are available out-of-the-box, and many more can be
+</I>&gt;<i> added.
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, translations can be readily created - or corrected - which is a
+</I>&gt;<i> big plus, as we won't be dependant on others to correct simple
+</I>&gt;<i> translation errors, or add new translations.
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know the features in detail, but from the presentation on the
+</I>&gt;<i> respective sites, I would also choose FUDforum for Mageia.
+</I>
+I haven't looked much into how translations are handled in FUDforum, but
+I'm not surprised you found them very well done since I found the same
+thing is the case with the skins, it's is really straightforward to
+personalise the look of FUDforum.
+
+Also I find the feedback from the developers to bug reports couldn't be
+better. I found that the ML import feature wasn't able to handle POP3
+over SSL (only POP3/STARTTLS), so I reported it and they provided a
+patch in less than 24 hours!
+
+I'm sold on FUDforum and I would highly recommend to whoever will be
+deciding on the Mageia forum to do a test install of FUDforum and check
+it out too, the ML gateway feature and the well implemented threading is
+already reason enough to chose FUDforum (but the remaining features are
+easily on par with phpBB and myBB too).
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+ <B>Ma&#226;t</B>
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+<PRE>Le 28/09/2010 21:08, Lucien-Henry Horvath a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> EN (lecteurs fran&#231;ais, je vous conseille de lire ci-dessous)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Okay, - What is the governance of this project ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hi Lucien,
+
+As you may know (or may not) this project started rather quickly with a
+great amount of energy and many positive reactions. But the plans were
+not precise because people did not have the time to plan it minutely :)
+
+So this project WILL have a public governance as stated on &quot;New grounds&quot;
+chapter on <A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
+
+Having a self-proclaimed board (made of the core people on whom the
+distribution used to rely for building and realease roadmaps) for the
+first year while we try to make our beloved distribution survive is
+something i consider neither illogical not illegitimate :)
+
+So even if the board is not precisely named i can guess a number of
+names that could appear in the list without shocking me :)
+
+If you're old enough in mandrake/mandriva i think you can even have a
+better gess :)
+
+&gt;<i> I believe that the old worker of Mandriva are the most activs. But it
+</I>&gt;<i> is not very false when person like Mahteus (or me), are feeling a
+</I>&gt;<i> problem.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't doubt that the governance of the project is not null ... But
+</I>&gt;<i> we, others of &quot;who maintain the list&quot;, we don't see anything.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well it's all over again the myth of the one-month-child :)
+
+(For those who do not know about this &quot;myth&quot; think about this : while
+one woman can have a baby in nine months, with nine women you'll never
+be able to have a baby in one month ^^)
+
+At the moment there are a very little number of &quot;babies&quot; : the build
+system (highest priority, requires money from the donations), the web
+servers ( lower priority because we have temporary replacement sites
+like the blog and the root website )
+
+These &quot;babies&quot; we cannot put many womens to have them... that would make
+no sense to send zillions of people to bring servers in a datacenter
+(and the datacenter owner would not let many enter)... same thing for
+servers (even if there will be 5 or 6 in the build system) install and
+configuration : a handful of sysadmins are enough for that... having a
+man per keyboard key would not speed up things you can trust me :)
+
+And before physical and software install, the design of global
+architecture and proof of concept made on sandbox machines cannot be
+charged on more than 2 or 3 guys :)
+
+That's just common sense... :)
+
+&gt;<i> Who is actually the captain, or most contributers ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Actually we have ennael whom i consider the person currently nearest
+from this idea of &quot;captain&quot;. But at the moment, to find a place in a
+datacenter, design the future build system and install a handful of rack
+servers we cannot parallelize more i guess :)
+
+And those who work on these tasks know perfectly what to do (i would bet
+on that) so they do not need a &quot;captain&quot;
+
+Later, the infrastructure, once up and running, will allow many people
+to work simultaneously. Please just give people time to set up this
+first stone of the building :)
+
+&gt;<i> Who is the team who decide the rules like : to put TXT format and not
+</I>&gt;<i> HTML format in the mail of the list ? Or to speak only in english ? Or
+</I>&gt;<i> to do only RPM and not DEB ? This 3 late days, I have only seen this
+</I>&gt;<i> kind of movement.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>For the first that's just a rule shared by every opensource project i
+know... it's just common sense again : many people do use pure text mail
+readers like mutt or pine... if you send html people will see rubbish
+full of &lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a
+href=&quot;<A HREF="http://blahblah.blah/page">http://blahblah.blah/page</A>&quot;&gt;link to
+read&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;th&gt;&lt;td&gt;something
+else to read&lt;/td&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;....
+
+And for people who use mobile mail readers, html makes emails soooo
+sloooow to download :-(
+
+For english it's again common sense as english is the lowest common
+denominator for communications, hence it's a de-facto standard used in
+every big opensource community :)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, I think I (and a lot of others) will take more confidence in this
+</I>&gt;<i> project if certain person said what they do.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>That imho can be said without big concern...
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have a wiki for write what each can do. But we have nothing for
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;institute&quot; what will be done, when, and who do what ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a first question : when and where will be done the first meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> of the foundation in France ? I want participate, I will take a day of
+</I>&gt;<i> holidays in my company for the creation and write of the statuts of
+</I>&gt;<i> this foundation. But, it seems that someone is back the decision, and
+</I>&gt;<i> now, actually, I don't see who (or which group).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>What foundation ? Afaik Mageia will rely on a not-for-profit dedicated
+organization. Not a foundation iirc.
+
+&gt;<i> Mageia will not survive if you make the sames mistake of the last
+</I>&gt;<i> managers of Mandriva. For me it was : decision in dark and no
+</I>&gt;<i> visibility to the community.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>At the moment all the more or less important decisions have been voted
+and discussed on these lists afaik (Cauldron name, logo...)
+
+(Setting up a build system is not really a decision as we cannot work
+without it. It's just rough and hard work to prepare it on sandbox
+machines while waiting to have a place in a datacenter... and enough
+money to buy the real servers)
+
+&gt;<i> This community is not only maked from hard-coders for fun ... but also
+</I>&gt;<i> people not exclusively technicians but can bring a lot to a community
+</I>&gt;<i> (which I also learned to make ABAP / java / Ada95 10 years ago, but
+</I>&gt;<i> now, I am no more exactly in this job ... and can give a little part
+</I>&gt;<i> of me).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well as said by many your (mine also i hope) and every volunteer help is
+most welcome but just now at this precise minute the tasks that can be
+processed are not so many and they take a fair amount of time to
+complete... those involved probably sleep little and work as hard as
+they can.
+
+Once this phase is finished i guess that many more people will be able
+to get in and contribute :)
+
+Please do not make things harder for those who work on the critical path
+and more unbearable the time for those who are waiting :-(
+
+Ma&#226;t
+
+
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+ <B>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida J&#250;nior</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] So?">ajunior at brasifort.com.br
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+ <I>Wed Sep 29 02:02:51 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Yeah!
+
+;-)
+
+J&#250;nior
+
+2010/9/28 Damien Lallement &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at damsweb.net</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Le 28/09/2010 20:02, Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida J&#250;nior a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree. We want help in the job. So, we need define a leader, structure
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and any other thing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hey guys, are you ready?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm ready!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Great, did you put your name on the wiki?
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Damien Lallement
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+&gt;<i> I agree. We want help in the job. So, we need define a leader, structure
+</I>&gt;<i> and any other thing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hey guys, are you ready?
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>No they are not totally ready but are working on it.
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+<PRE>We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux because of the
+differences between these two environments. A critical point is the difference
+between the programs used to perform common tasks.
+
+Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome Center. What is
+this? Basically, when Mageia is installed and user will do his first login - or
+when a new user is created and will do your first login, after loading the
+desktop environment, a window like the one I drew below will appear:
+
+<A HREF="http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png">http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png</A>
+
+This is a simple idea: this window will show friendly descriptions to commom
+tasks besides icons of programs used to perform them. So the user will associate
+the program that needs to use the task that needs doing. When user clicks icon
+or text, the associated program will be launched.
+
+Of course, future we can disable the icons of programs that are not installed or
+provide a way to add more options.
+
+This certainly is a small and easy-to-do program that can be developed in
+minutes and hides a great easter egg ;)
+
+PS: I have the original SVG if someone is interested.
+
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+This a great idea.
+
+J&#250;nior
+
+2010/9/28 Andre Machado &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux because of
+</I>&gt;<i> the
+</I>&gt;<i> differences between these two environments. A critical point is the
+</I>&gt;<i> difference
+</I>&gt;<i> between the programs used to perform common tasks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome Center. What
+</I>&gt;<i> is
+</I>&gt;<i> this? Basically, when Mageia is installed and user will do his first login
+</I>&gt;<i> - or
+</I>&gt;<i> when a new user is created and will do your first login, after loading the
+</I>&gt;<i> desktop environment, a window like the one I drew below will appear:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png">http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a simple idea: this window will show friendly descriptions to
+</I>&gt;<i> commom
+</I>&gt;<i> tasks besides icons of programs used to perform them. So the user will
+</I>&gt;<i> associate
+</I>&gt;<i> the program that needs to use the task that needs doing. When user clicks
+</I>&gt;<i> icon
+</I>&gt;<i> or text, the associated program will be launched.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, future we can disable the icons of programs that are not
+</I>&gt;<i> installed or
+</I>&gt;<i> provide a way to add more options.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This certainly is a small and easy-to-do program that can be developed in
+</I>&gt;<i> minutes and hides a great easter egg ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: I have the original SVG if someone is interested.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-dev mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A>
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+&gt;<i> Ok, you are doing something, but the community around just see you guys
+</I>talking and talking, sorry if this offned you, but me and other gauys really
+want to help you with the jobs.Regardas,Matheus
+&gt;<i>
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+Dear Matheus,
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+the haste is the enemy of perfection.
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+It is very important for beginner and old people.
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+It would be configure during the installation.
+
+Matthieu
+
+Le 29/09/2010 03:13, Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida J&#250;nior a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Andre,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This a great idea.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> J&#250;nior
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/28 Andre Machado &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> because of the
+</I>&gt;<i> differences between these two environments. A critical point is
+</I>&gt;<i> the difference
+</I>&gt;<i> between the programs used to perform common tasks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome
+</I>&gt;<i> Center. What is
+</I>&gt;<i> this? Basically, when Mageia is installed and user will do his
+</I>&gt;<i> first login - or
+</I>&gt;<i> when a new user is created and will do your first login, after
+</I>&gt;<i> loading the
+</I>&gt;<i> desktop environment, a window like the one I drew below will appear:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png">http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a simple idea: this window will show friendly descriptions
+</I>&gt;<i> to commom
+</I>&gt;<i> tasks besides icons of programs used to perform them. So the user
+</I>&gt;<i> will associate
+</I>&gt;<i> the program that needs to use the task that needs doing. When user
+</I>&gt;<i> clicks icon
+</I>&gt;<i> or text, the associated program will be launched.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, future we can disable the icons of programs that are
+</I>&gt;<i> not installed or
+</I>&gt;<i> provide a way to add more options.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This certainly is a small and easy-to-do program that can be
+</I>&gt;<i> developed in
+</I>&gt;<i> minutes and hides a great easter egg ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: I have the original SVG if someone is interested.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>Le 29/09/2010 03:03, Andre Machado a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux because of the
+</I>&gt;<i> differences between these two environments. A critical point is the difference
+</I>&gt;<i> between the programs used to perform common tasks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome Center. What is
+</I>&gt;<i> this? Basically, when Mageia is installed and user will do his first login - or
+</I>&gt;<i> when a new user is created and will do your first login, after loading the
+</I>&gt;<i> desktop environment, a window like the one I drew below will appear:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png">http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>i like this idea !
+
+Ma&#226;t
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 29 September 2010, Ma&#226;t wrote:
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+&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png">http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i like this idea !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I like it too. But it reminds me of the Mandriva welcome page:
+
+ The welcome &quot;center&quot; could well be the Mageia welcome page, in the same
+sense that the Mandriva welcome page had appeared. It could have your
+suggested layout, and a &quot;help&quot; tab/pane/button that would go to the welcome
+text + have links to help documentation.
+
+Said that, I think a newbie would appreciate a page that would direct him/her
+to some documentation like &quot;What can I do with my new OS?&quot;, &quot;How do I access
+my files/programs?&quot; &quot;How can I configure/fix things?&quot; etc.
+
+Said that (flash #2), we may have a dual system of keeping those docs: a cached
+version stored in an rpm[1] package, and a big button on those (html?) pages
+like: &quot;go to latest version of this page on the Internet&quot;. That way, an offline
+first installation (before network is functional) will still be able to read
+docs.
+
+
+[1] YES! rpm, not deb, not portage, not .exe or anything else...
+--
+Say NO to spam and viruses. Stop using Microsoft Windows!
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+<PRE>2010/9/29 Ma&#226;t &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Le 29/09/2010 03:03, Andre Machado a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png">http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i like this idea !
+</I>
+I like it only for this special case (first time user, etc.). I could
+imagine it as replacement of the Mandriva Galaxy Welcome screen, which
+pops up after system start and which can be closed and deactivated
+with a mouseclick.
+
+It may also be nice for large smartphones (aka netbooks)..
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+<PRE>Le 29/09/2010 09:35, P. Christeas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 29 September 2010, Ma&#226;t wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png">http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i like this idea !
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I like it too. But it reminds me of the Mandriva welcome page:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The welcome &quot;center&quot; could well be the Mageia welcome page, in the same
+</I>&gt;<i> sense that the Mandriva welcome page had appeared. It could have your
+</I>&gt;<i> suggested layout, and a &quot;help&quot; tab/pane/button that would go to the welcome
+</I>&gt;<i> text + have links to help documentation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well if we want also the distribution to be interesting for little and
+bigger companies we certainly have to think the home page of mageia site
+with more things in mind :)
+
+&gt;<i> Said that, I think a newbie would appreciate a page that would direct him/her
+</I>&gt;<i> to some documentation like &quot;What can I do with my new OS?&quot;, &quot;How do I access
+</I>&gt;<i> my files/programs?&quot; &quot;How can I configure/fix things?&quot; etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>agreed :)
+
+Ma&#226;t
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+ <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Andre Machado &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the haste is the enemy of perfection.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Reguards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Andr&#233;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A>&gt;
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux because of
+</I>&gt;<i> the differences between these two environments. A critical point is the
+</I>&gt;<i> difference between the programs used to perform common tasks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome Center. What
+</I>&gt;<i> is this? Basically, when Mageia is installed and user will do his first
+</I>&gt;<i> login - or when a new user is created and will do your first login, after
+</I>&gt;<i> loading the desktop environment, a window like the one I drew below will
+</I>&gt;<i> appear:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png">http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+i like it : ) it can be created together with my (now becoming old) proposal
+of creating a kde4 welcome plasmoid that shows how mandriva works (basis).
+this is the bug link:
+
+<A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=32617">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=32617</A>
+
+and this is the (basic) mockup:
+
+<A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/attachment.cgi?id=17504">https://qa.mandriva.com/attachment.cgi?id=17504</A>
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+cheers,
+Marcello
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+&gt;&gt;<i> We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux because of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the differences between these two environments. A critical point is the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> difference between the programs used to perform common tasks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome Center. What
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is this? Basically, when Mageia is installed and user will do his first
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> login - or when a new user is created and will do your first login, after
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> loading the desktop environment, a window like the one I drew below will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> appear:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png">http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i like it : ) it can be created together with my (now becoming old) proposal
+</I>&gt;<i> of creating a kde4 welcome plasmoid that shows how mandriva works (basis).
+</I>&gt;<i> this is the bug link:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=32617">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=32617</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and this is the (basic) mockup:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/attachment.cgi?id=17504">https://qa.mandriva.com/attachment.cgi?id=17504</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcello
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A>
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+I suggest to look at Pardus Linux's Kaptan tool. It shows up to assist
+desktop/system configuration to new user. Such as from network setup
+to icon theme. Tough it is only KDE app.
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+atilla ontas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; because of the differences between these two environments. A
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; critical point is the difference between the programs used to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; perform common tasks.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Center. What is this? Basically, when Mageia is installed and user
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; will do his first login - or when a new user is created and will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; do your first login, after loading the desktop environment, a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; window like the one I drew below will appear:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png">http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png</A>
+</I>I'm pretty ok, good idea!
+
+--
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+Mageia Contributor (<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/fr/">http://www.mageia.org/fr/</A>)
+Serial Blogger (<A HREF="http://twitter.com/Kharec">http://twitter.com/Kharec</A>)
+Developer (Perl, Bash, C)
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+&gt;<i> The welcome &quot;center&quot; could well be the Mageia welcome page, in the same
+</I>&gt;<i> sense that the Mandriva welcome page had appeared. It could have your
+</I>&gt;<i> suggested layout, and a &quot;help&quot; tab/pane/button that would go to the welcome
+</I>&gt;<i> text + have links to help documentation.
+</I>
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+
+This idea was perfect! Easier to do, easier to maintain and easier to update!
+Too, we can put more links like: &quot;Go to my personal files&quot;, &quot;Syncronize my
+mobile devices&quot; and &quot;Update this system&quot;. And we can use a Browser window to do
+it, without binaries!
+
+Cheer,
+
+Andr&#233; Machado
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> i know you mean well, but would you please (pretty please with sugar on top),
+</I>&gt;<i> calm the f*** down.
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+I am VERY &quot;f***ing&quot; calm. If I was some kind of crybaby, maybe I
+should feel disrespect because you wrote &quot;f***&quot;?
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+I'm sorry if you (or anyone else) are misunderstanding my words.
+However, I affirm what I've said in the mail before.
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+I can write some other thoughts that I have. But I'm afraid that there
+could be some real crybaby around and could feel offended. (just in
+case, I'm not calling you &quot;crybaby&quot;, but if you feel so it's not in my
+hands).
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+Besides, IMHO these MLs are not for this kind of discussions.
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+So, I made my point in the mail before. For me, period.
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+Cheers!
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+<PRE>2010/9/29 Andr&#233; Machado &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;The welcome &quot;center&quot; could well be the Mageia welcome page, in the same
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sense that the Mandriva welcome page had appeared. It could have your
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> suggested layout, and a &quot;help&quot; tab/pane/button that would go to the welcome
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> text + have links to help documentation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This idea was perfect! Easier to do, easier to maintain and easier to update!
+</I>&gt;<i> Too, we can put more links like: &quot;Go to my personal files&quot;, &quot;Syncronize my
+</I>&gt;<i> mobile devices&quot; and &quot;Update this system&quot;. And we can use a Browser window to do
+</I>&gt;<i> it, without binaries!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+This is something like Linux Mint does... Maybe you could implement
+something similar to theirs?
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+(and +1 to the idea in general)
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+--
+later, Robert Xu
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> i know you mean well, but would you please (pretty please with sugar on top),
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> calm the f*** down.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am VERY &quot;f***ing&quot; calm. If I was some kind of crybaby, maybe I
+</I>&gt;<i> should feel disrespect because you wrote &quot;f***&quot;?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm sorry if you (or anyone else) are misunderstanding my words.
+</I>&gt;<i> However, I affirm what I've said in the mail before.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can write some other thoughts that I have. But I'm afraid that there
+</I>&gt;<i> could be some real crybaby around and could feel offended. (just in
+</I>&gt;<i> case, I'm not calling you &quot;crybaby&quot;, but if you feel so it's not in my
+</I>&gt;<i> hands).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Besides, IMHO these MLs are not for this kind of discussions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, I made my point in the mail before. For me, period.
+</I>
+Let's keep on topic, yes?
+
+A good idea would be to keep a wiki page listing all the aspects of
+Mageia we want...
+like, &quot;We want RPM, we want plain-text mails only, we want a cool logo&quot;, etc...
+
+If you do that, people can go there for reference, and if we agree on
+stuff, you can change that page.
+
+Besides, it's temporary, and you will probably be able to split it up
+into sections later.
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+But let's just keep a disambiguation page of jumbled stuff first.
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+later, Robert Xu
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+</I>&gt;<i> A good idea would be to keep a wiki page listing all the aspects of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia we want...
+</I>&gt;<i> like, &quot;We want RPM, we want plain-text mails only, we want a cool logo&quot;, etc...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you do that, people can go there for reference, and if we agree on
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff, you can change that page.
+</I>
+Hmm, how would that be different to the discussion we have here? Do
+you think in the wiki people would be less responsive and/or numerous
+with their opinions, ideas, discussions than on this list?
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+Here we have &quot;We want RPM&quot; in the first mail, then &quot;Think about deb&quot;
+in the secons mail, in the third mail someone talks about a tool, in
+the 4th mail there is a reply to the first mail, etc. It's chaotic,
+yes, but do you think a wiki page with the same unavoidable contents
+would look better?
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+I don't think so. I am a forum guy and I like wikis but for
+discussions like this a mailing list is better suited.
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+<PRE>Robert Xu &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">robxu9 at gmail.com</A>&gt; schrieb am 2010-09-29
+&gt;<i> Let's keep on topic, yes?
+</I>This thread has no real topic, has it?
+
+&gt;<i> A good idea would be to keep a wiki page listing all the aspects of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia we want...
+</I>&gt;<i> like, &quot;We want RPM
+</I>There are technical reasons for some things, in the rpm vs. deb threads it has
+been answered a few times. There are not really any technical reasons to
+change from rpm to deb and it would produce so much work, we could giv it up
+before we start. Kepping the point asside that there are quite a few
+contributors who know quite well how to build rpms but have not the least idea
+about deb. This has been discussed and has been answered by those people who
+have to do the work.
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+&gt;<i> , we want plain-text mails only
+</I>This is the usual way in every mailing list I know, and it has a reason. html
+mails make things like quoting parts of them a mess and it produces much
+overhead. html mails are one of the biggest mistake in the history of the
+internet
+
+&gt;<i> , we want a cool logo&quot;,
+</I>we do, but first the marketing people have to design an overall ci, then the
+logo can be created. We are not a weekend hobby by some amateur, we are a
+worldwide community that wants to build the best distro ever.
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+Oliver
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> A good idea would be to keep a wiki page listing all the aspects of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia we want...
+</I>&gt;<i> like, &quot;We want RPM, we want plain-text mails only, we want a cool logo&quot;, etc...
+</I>
+IMHO that people is going too far in this moment. I mean, far in the future.
+
+Think that we have almost nothing yet. Not even the most important and
+basic elements to build the distro. So, people is asking to add
+features to a distro that can't be built yet.
+
+With time, Mageia will have all it's needed (build system, bug
+tracking, web server, etc etc.). And, of course, some place to drop
+ideas. Maybe something like &quot;ideas.mandriva.com&quot; or Mandriva's
+bugzilla. Who knows.
+
+Don't feel disappointed. Please, keep your ideas in mind. Be patient
+and wait for the right moment to drop it in the right place.
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+IMHO that wiki is to &quot;slow&quot;. IRC is too &quot;real time&quot;. MLs are the right
+mix between both. With MLs you have enough time to think and write
+your idea very clear. And is fast enough to have lot of answers in a
+few minutes.
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+Cheers!
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+<PRE>Founders of Mageia project are working hard in many &quot;fields&quot;. One of
+those fields is to write founding documents.
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+IMHO that we could/should provisionally rely on these:
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+* Etiquette for mailing lists:
+<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Support/Mailinglists/Etiquette">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Support/Mailinglists/Etiquette</A>
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+* Code of conduct: <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Code_of_Conduct">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Code_of_Conduct</A>
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+And I said &quot;provisionally&quot; because I guess we'll have our own rules.
+But I don't think that courtesy and respect will be absent in our
+rules. In fact, I think &quot;our rules&quot; will be pretty much the same as
+the links I posted.
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+For those who don't know these documentos, please, take a few minutes
+and read them.
+
+I'm sending this mail to mageia-dev / mageia-discuss / mageia-i18n
+lists. But as separate e-mails.
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+Cheers!
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+Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IMHO that wiki is to &quot;slow&quot;. IRC is too &quot;real time&quot;. MLs are the right
+</I>&gt;<i> mix between both. With MLs you have enough time to think and write
+</I>&gt;<i> your idea very clear. And is fast enough to have lot of answers in a
+</I>&gt;<i> few minutes.
+</I>
+May I emphasize your point about IRC:
+IRC has one major drawback. All information, ideas, opinions given on
+IRC are only available to those people who are present in the moment
+when such ideas, opinions and informations are given/discussed. All
+other people (the vast majority) is not present, even dedicated IRC
+users are not online 24/7.
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+So IMHO important issues should never be discussed on IRC, less
+somebody posts related excerpts on the mailing list related to the
+issue.
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+IRC is good for short question/answer communication to solve a problem
+at hand, IRC is good for scheduled meetings of not too large groups
+(8-10 participants to the max to be productive). But it is not suited
+for overall discussions you may want to refer to a couple of days
+later.
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+<PRE>If you run fast enough to <A HREF="http://donate.mageia.com">http://donate.mageia.com</A> you'll see something
+amusing...
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+...the last donator made a humoristic donation that raised the amount to
+show three times the Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life,
+The Universe, and Everything :)
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+Fun enough to notice :)
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+Cheers,
+Ma&#226;t
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+&gt;<i> If you run fast enough to <A HREF="http://donate.mageia.com">http://donate.mageia.com</A> you'll see something
+</I>&gt;<i> amusing...
+</I>
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 &#224; 15:25 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; IMHO that wiki is to &quot;slow&quot;. IRC is too &quot;real time&quot;. MLs are the right
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mix between both. With MLs you have enough time to think and write
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; your idea very clear. And is fast enough to have lot of answers in a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; few minutes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> May I emphasize your point about IRC:
+</I>&gt;<i> IRC has one major drawback. All information, ideas, opinions given on
+</I>&gt;<i> IRC are only available to those people who are present in the moment
+</I>&gt;<i> when such ideas, opinions and informations are given/discussed. All
+</I>&gt;<i> other people (the vast majority) is not present, even dedicated IRC
+</I>&gt;<i> users are not online 24/7.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So IMHO important issues should never be discussed on IRC, less
+</I>&gt;<i> somebody posts related excerpts on the mailing list related to the
+</I>&gt;<i> issue.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IRC is good for short question/answer communication to solve a problem
+</I>&gt;<i> at hand, IRC is good for scheduled meetings of not too large groups
+</I>&gt;<i> (8-10 participants to the max to be productive). But it is not suited
+</I>&gt;<i> for overall discussions you may want to refer to a couple of days
+</I>&gt;<i> later.
+</I>
+I was planning on adding a bot that log conversation, like we do on
+#mandrivafr ( with nice stats too ). I have also set up a meetbot
+instance for meetings.
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+But I agree that for better accountability, we should have big
+discussion on ml.
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+<PRE>Le 29/09/2010 15:36, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 &#224; 15:34 +0200, Ma&#226;t a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you run fast enough to <A HREF="http://donate.mageia.com">http://donate.mageia.com</A> you'll see something
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> amusing...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> fast enough and with the crrect url of <A HREF="http://donate.mageia.org/">http://donate.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Ooop's
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+s/mageia\.com/mageia.org/
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+<PRE>On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:12 AM, atilla ontas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suggest to look at Pardus Linux's Kaptan tool. It shows up to assist
+</I>&gt;<i> desktop/system configuration to new user. Such as from network setup
+</I>&gt;<i> to icon theme. Tough it is only KDE app.
+</I>
+Wow, this kaptan app looks really really nice, if someone wants to
+take a look at some screenshots of it (and Pardus in general) see this
+link:
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+<A HREF="http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/pardus.html">http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/pardus.html</A>
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+Also the installer looks pretty nice too.
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:12 AM, atilla ontas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I suggest to look at Pardus Linux's Kaptan tool. It shows up to assist
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; desktop/system configuration to new user. Such as from network setup
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to icon theme. Tough it is only KDE app.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wow, this kaptan app looks really really nice, if someone wants to
+</I>&gt;<i> take a look at some screenshots of it (and Pardus in general) see this
+</I>&gt;<i> link:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/pardus.html">http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/pardus.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also the installer looks pretty nice too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I remember something like Kaptan was used in KDE many-many years ago (KDE2
+probably?)
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+<PRE>I guess the Welcome Center could also be a place to offer two other
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+- A button to link directly to the community page, introducing the
+forums and all the other community services.
+- Display on the welcome screen basic hardware information : Processor,
+RAM, video card and the driver currently activated.
+- A link to <A HREF="sysinfo://">sysinfo://</A> that offers some hardware information that could
+fit inside the welcome center as it is a simple HTML layout. On that
+page, there can be a link directly to Harddrake to get even more
+information. Getting system information easily is actually a thing many
+distros miss, apparently.
+
+But there should be a warning light on such a welcome center : beware
+the windows-like thing. We really need to think about a new and useful
+design.
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+<PRE>On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Thomas Lottmann
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">skipercooker at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> - A link to <A HREF="sysinfo://">sysinfo://</A> that offers some hardware information that could fit
+</I>&gt;<i> inside the welcome center as it is a simple HTML layout. On that page, there
+</I>&gt;<i> can be a link directly to Harddrake to get even more information. Getting
+</I>&gt;<i> system information easily is actually a thing many distros miss, apparently.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Maybe that isn't too much info por a tool that is for new users ? IMO
+it would be better just a link to the hardware tool, harddrake in our
+case.
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+&gt;<i> But there should be a warning light on such a welcome center : beware the
+</I>&gt;<i> windows-like thing. We really need to think about a new and useful design.
+</I>
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+</I>
+I would stick with OpenOffice. The faster cycle is not possible without
+money coming from Oracle. Currently, most of the work is done by its
+employees anyway. We should also remember that some part of Oracle's
+code remains closed. So although they are supported by such companies as
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+I mean, Kaptan is a configuration tool.
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+Display links is more a kind of &quot;information&quot; page.
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+So, the Welcome Center should be an info page, or a full featured tool
+that can set most common things for newbies?
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+Personally, I like the Kaptan idea. Don't know if it's possible to
+port it to Mageia from developers' POV.
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+LibreOffice!
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+2010/9/29 Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andresalaun at aliceadsl.fr</A>&gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> Personally, I like the Kaptan idea. Don't know if it's possible to
+</I>&gt;<i> port it to Mageia from developers' POV.
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/9/29 Juan Luis Baptiste &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">juan.baptiste at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:12 AM, atilla ontas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I suggest to look at Pardus Linux's Kaptan tool. It shows up to assist
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; desktop/system configuration to new user. Such as from network setup
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; to icon theme. Tough it is only KDE app.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wow, this kaptan app looks really really nice, if someone wants to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> take a look at some screenshots of it (and Pardus in general) see this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> link:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/pardus.html">http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/pardus.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also the installer looks pretty nice too.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I remember something like Kaptan was used in KDE many-many years ago (KDE2
+</I>&gt;<i> probably?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Juancho
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+May be there was a Kaptan like app before. But Kaptan written from
+stratch for Pardus, not fork of another app.
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+</I>&gt;<i> I mean, Kaptan is a configuration tool.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Display links is more a kind of &quot;information&quot; page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, the Welcome Center should be an info page, or a full featured tool
+</I>&gt;<i> that can set most common things for newbies?
+</I>
+I'd put more weight on the information part.
+
+It should guide the user to all relevant places for up-to-date
+information about Mageia, to help pages (the wiki), to discussion and
+support places like the forums, etc., preferrably in the language he
+sets when installing the system.
+
+Then you can add internal links to the control center, to
+softwaremanagement, to hardware information.
+
+Reason: After installation what he needs first in case of problems is
+addresses he can turn to to get help. Other places are easily found in
+the start menue (a section &quot;Top Apps / Tools&quot; would help there) but
+there are no links to helping people in the menue.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Envoy&#233;&#160;: 29 septembre 2010 12:51
+</I>&gt;<i> &#192;&#160;: Mageia development mailing-list
+</I>&gt;<i> Objet&#160;: Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> WelcomeCenter?
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+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe firts, you should decide what would the Welcome Center do.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I mean, Kaptan is a configuration tool.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Display links is more a kind of &quot;information&quot; page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, the Welcome Center should be an info page, or a full featured tool
+</I>&gt;<i> that can set most common things for newbies?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Personally, I like the Kaptan idea. Don't know if it's possible to
+</I>&gt;<i> port it to Mageia from developers' POV.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>
+I'd say that Gustavo is right on this one. What do we really want : a
+setup/configuration tool to help newbies or a welcome page to help newbies
+recognized what the different apps in linux are for?
+
+
+Patrick Dubeau (alias DaaX) - Webmaster MLO
+<A HREF="http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org">http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org</A>
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Maybe firts, you should decide what would the Welcome Center do.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I mean, Kaptan is a configuration tool.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Display links is more a kind of &quot;information&quot; page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, the Welcome Center should be an info page, or a full featured tool
+</I>&gt;<i> that can set most common things for newbies?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Personally, I like the Kaptan idea. Don't know if it's possible to
+</I>&gt;<i> port it to Mageia from developers' POV.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
+</I>
+One question though, kaptan works only with KDE? what about other DE's?
+
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+<PRE>I found both aproaches really atractive and useful.
+
+Kaptan looks very intuitive, easy and centralize most (if not all) the
+most common and basic settings that a person with basic knowledge
+could need after the first boot.
+
+However, wobo's aproach is also important. What happends if
+Kaptan-like-tool hangs in the first boot and close? That's where info
+page will be really really useful. This is an extreme example, but I
+think I presents the idea well. A newbie will be almost &quot;naked and
+screaming&quot; without to know where to go for help.
+
+But, if Kaptan-like-tool doesn't hang and works fine, it's always
+important to let people know where they have to go if anything goes
+wrong or where to meet other user. You never know when a user could
+become an important contributor.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
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+&gt;<i> I would stick with OpenOffice. The faster cycle is not possible without
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+ <B>Graham Lauder</B>
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+&gt;<i> OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg00000.html">http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg00000.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.documentfoundation.org/">http://www.documentfoundation.org/</A>
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+Any decision will depend on timing, ie: Where LibreOffice is when a Mageia
+build is avaialble.
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+Right now LibreOffice is limited in terms of l10n, that will change.
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+It is hoped that Oracle will come on board and contribute as part of the
+foundation including the ownership of the OpenOffice.org name and branding.
+The pressure for this change is not new, the OOo community has wanted a
+foundation from the beginning and SUN, the original owners, had said that was
+their long term goal.
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+There is some uncertainty as to Oracle's future support and that has driven
+this initiative.
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+I've been with the OOo community since the beginning and I support this as do
+a lot of the core active community members and a significant number of the
+paid devs.
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+What I would like to see is the new Distro penning a note of support and at
+this early moment, (only a symbolic gesture, I know) going with LibreOffice as
+the default OOo version
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+Cheers
+GL
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+--
+Graham Lauder,
+OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
+<A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A>
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 &#224; 06:43 +1300, Graham Lauder a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 05:42:48 Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg00000.html">http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg00000.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.documentfoundation.org/">http://www.documentfoundation.org/</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Any decision will depend on timing, ie: Where LibreOffice is when a Mageia
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+we can have both packages :)
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+</I>
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+Of course. It's the most &quot;logical&quot; decision.
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+But I think Graham means which office suite will be the &quot;default&quot; one
+shipped in the installation media. I like the idea of supporting
+LibreOffice. If anything goes wrong, you always can do an &quot;urpmi
+openoffice&quot;. It should be fast if LibreOffice and OpenOffice are,
+right now almost the same thing. Packages for both should be almost
+the same. Am I right?
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+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 &#224; 06:43 +1300, Graham Lauder a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 05:42:48 Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg00000.html">http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg00000.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.documentfoundation.org/">http://www.documentfoundation.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any decision will depend on timing, ie: Where LibreOffice is when a Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> build is avaialble.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we can have both packages :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Nooo! unless you want the guy maintaining the go-oo/libreoffice
+packages to commit suicide :)
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+<PRE>Le 29/09/2010 21:03, Gustavo Giampaoli a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> we can have both packages :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course. It's the most &quot;logical&quot; decision.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But I think Graham means which office suite will be the &quot;default&quot; one
+</I>&gt;<i> shipped in the installation media. I like the idea of supporting
+</I>&gt;<i> LibreOffice. If anything goes wrong, you always can do an &quot;urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> openoffice&quot;. It should be fast if LibreOffice and OpenOffice are,
+</I>&gt;<i> right now almost the same thing. Packages for both should be almost
+</I>&gt;<i> the same. Am I right?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A>
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+LibreOffice is a new-born, even if it's a fork. Can we not just wait a
+few weeks or months ? To see how this child his growing up and if we can
+include it in the distribution and if it must be the default choice for
+office suite.
+
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+Regards
+
+--
+Marianne (Jehane) Lombard
+Mandriva User - Mageia french translation team
+Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a
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+&gt;&gt;<i> we can have both packages :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course. It's the most &quot;logical&quot; decision.
+</I>
+I was wrong. After visit the LibreOffice web
+<A HREF="http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/">http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/</A> I've found that English is
+the only language besides this:
+
+&quot;This beta release is not intended for production use! Be advised that
+the current beta might replace your OpenOffice.org installation.&quot;
+
+So, I agree with Michael Scherer's words: any decision will depend on
+timing, ie: Where LibreOffice is when a Mageia build is avaialble.
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+Cheers!
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 03:03:05, Andre Machado a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux because of
+</I>&gt;<i> the differences between these two environments. A critical point is the
+</I>&gt;<i> difference between the programs used to perform common tasks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome Center. What
+</I>&gt;<i> is this? Basically, when Mageia is installed and user will do his first
+</I>&gt;<i> login - or when a new user is created and will do your first login, after
+</I>&gt;<i> loading the desktop environment, a window like the one I drew below will
+</I>&gt;<i> appear:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png">http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a simple idea: this window will show friendly descriptions to
+</I>&gt;<i> commom tasks besides icons of programs used to perform them. So the user
+</I>&gt;<i> will associate the program that needs to use the task that needs doing.
+</I>&gt;<i> When user clicks icon or text, the associated program will be launched.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, future we can disable the icons of programs that are not
+</I>&gt;<i> installed or provide a way to add more options.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This certainly is a small and easy-to-do program that can be developed in
+</I>&gt;<i> minutes and hides a great easter egg ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: I have the original SVG if someone is interested.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-dev mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+This is a nice idea
+
+Another moment to give information is when installing. Currently there are
+several images for promoting Mandriva (they are available on any mirrors, for
+example here :
+&lt;<A HREF="ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandriva.com/MandrivaLinux/official/2010.1/i586/install/extra/advertising/">ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandriva.com/MandrivaLinux/official/2010.1/i586/install/extra/advertising/</A>&gt;
+)
+The time during installation could be used to give first informations so these
+images are to be modified. Another point is there are only in English. I don't
+know if it's possible to have localised images, i would be nice (but would
+take several place, around 2,2 MB).
+
+So i think there is also a need to rework these images so i would be a first
+introduction to Mageia.
+
+
+--
+Olivier M&#233;jean
+Pr&#233;sident de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux
+<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A>
+twitter : obagoom
+identi.ca : goom
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+&gt;<i> 2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> we can have both packages :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Of course. It's the most &quot;logical&quot; decision.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was wrong. After visit the LibreOffice web
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/">http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/</A> I've found that English is
+</I>&gt;<i> the only language besides this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;This beta release is not intended for production use! Be advised that
+</I>&gt;<i> the current beta might replace your OpenOffice.org installation.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, I agree with Michael Scherer's words: any decision will depend on
+</I>&gt;<i> timing, ie: Where LibreOffice is when a Mageia build is avaialble.
+</I>
+The Mageia build system isn't on service yet anyway so we still have a
+lot of time to see how this new project will be evolving and to focus on
+the issues we will face with our 2010.1 base.
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+<PRE>Le 29/09/2010 21:24, Olivier M&#233;jean a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i> This is a nice idea
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Another moment to give information is when installing. Currently there are
+</I>&gt;<i> several images for promoting Mandriva (they are available on any mirrors, for
+</I>&gt;<i> example here :
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandriva.com/MandrivaLinux/official/2010.1/i586/install/extra/advertising/">ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandriva.com/MandrivaLinux/official/2010.1/i586/install/extra/advertising/</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> )
+</I>&gt;<i> The time during installation could be used to give first informations so these
+</I>&gt;<i> images are to be modified. Another point is there are only in English. I don't
+</I>&gt;<i> know if it's possible to have localised images, i would be nice (but would
+</I>&gt;<i> take several place, around 2,2 MB).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So i think there is also a need to rework these images so i would be a first
+</I>&gt;<i> introduction to Mageia.
+</I>
+Along with the Welcome Center idea, the one consisting in making a sort
+of presentation or guided tour during the setup process is one I like a
+lot.
+
+If you look back in Mandrake's history, this was in fact used by the
+past. Look this setup capture of Mandrake 9.1 Bamboo :
+<A HREF="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Mandrake91setup.png">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Mandrake91setup.png</A>
+
+
+Basically, there are two solutions :
+
+- Modify the advertisement images into ones that show the different
+components, possibilities and advantages Mageia has to offer. BUT
+currently, they would only be images and this won't help localization,
+as people would have to duplicate the images. Easy (I did it for my
+Moblin LiveCD), but not practical...
+
+- Looking at the Bamboo's DrakX, and believing the core of the DrakX
+Installation Program has not fundamentally changed, I guess it is
+possible to restore the ability to place texts on advertisements as you
+can see on the screenshot. Translators would then just have to edit a
+.po file to translate these texts in their own language.
+
+I was also thinking that a calm music (that can be turned off) during
+the setup process would be nice to welcome the users who install the
+system in graphical mode (offering a visible text mode install is
+perhaps also needed, considering that I had many people asking me for
+this).
+
+Without modifying the code itself too much, we would be able to revamp
+the appearance of our good old DrakX as well. :)
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> This is a nice idea
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Another moment to give information is when installing. Currently there
+</I>&gt;<i> are
+</I>&gt;<i> several images for promoting Mandriva (they are available on any
+</I>&gt;<i> mirrors, for
+</I>&gt;<i> example here :
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandriva.com/MandrivaLinux/official/2010">ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandriva.com/MandrivaLinux/official/2010</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> .1/i586/install/extra/advertising/&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> )
+</I>&gt;<i> The time during installation could be used to give first informations
+</I>&gt;<i> so these
+</I>&gt;<i> images are to be modified. Another point is there are only in English.
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't
+</I>&gt;<i> know if it's possible to have localised images, i would be nice (but
+</I>&gt;<i> would
+</I>&gt;<i> take several place, around 2,2 MB).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So i think there is also a need to rework these images so i would be a
+</I>&gt;<i> first
+</I>&gt;<i> introduction to Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi Olivier,
+
+The idea here is not only to give general information during installation but
+to create a welcome screen that'll help newbies get around a linux distro :
+what are the major softs to use to cruise de net, create text document,
+listen to music, configure PC, desktop and such.
+
+
+Patrick Dubeau (alias DaaX) - Webmaster MLO
+<A HREF="http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org">http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org</A>
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+<PRE>Hey guys,
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+I've read almost all topics of this thread, gathered some ideas and created a
+non-functional HTML prototype of Mageia Welcome Center.
+
+I would like you to do download it at
+
+<A HREF="http://www.sendspace.com/file/n29kae">http://www.sendspace.com/file/n29kae</A>
+
+and read the README file and get their views for me here.
+
+Let's start doing something. I believe that this task is easy. Let's complete
+tasks what I wrote in README and see where it will lead us.
+
+Of course, this tool is intended for novice users, the experts will disable it
+so that come the first time.
+
+Reguards,
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+<PRE>Es al estilo de la pantalla de bienvenida de jolicloud, es una idea muy
+acertada, buen trabajo ;)
+It is the style of the splash screen Jolicloud is a very wise idea, good job;)
+
+2010/9/29 Andr&#233; Machado &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> Hey guys,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've read almost all topics of this thread, gathered some ideas and created
+</I>&gt;<i> a
+</I>&gt;<i> non-functional HTML prototype of Mageia Welcome Center.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like you to do download it at
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.sendspace.com/file/n29kae">http://www.sendspace.com/file/n29kae</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and read the README file and get their views for me here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's start doing something. I believe that this task is easy. Let's
+</I>&gt;<i> complete
+</I>&gt;<i> tasks what I wrote in README and see where it will lead us.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, this tool is intended for novice users, the experts will disable
+</I>&gt;<i> it
+</I>&gt;<i> so that come the first time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Reguards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Andr&#233;
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+&gt;<i> - Display on the welcome screen basic hardware information : Processor,
+</I>&gt;<i> RAM, video card and the driver currently activated.
+</I>
+Can this be done using HTML pages or need some extra tool?
+
+&gt;<i> - A link to <A HREF="sysinfo://">sysinfo://</A> that offers some hardware information that could
+</I>&gt;<i> fit inside the welcome center as it is a simple HTML layout. On that
+</I>&gt;<i> page, there can be a link directly to Harddrake to get even more
+</I>&gt;<i> information. Getting system information easily is actually a thing many
+</I>&gt;<i> distros miss, apparently.
+</I>
+Is this <A HREF="sysinfo://">sysinfo://</A> default or is implemented by any special tool?
+
+&gt;<i> But there should be a warning light on such a welcome center : beware
+</I>&gt;<i> the windows-like thing. We really need to think about a new and useful
+</I>&gt;<i> design.
+</I>
+Indeed. I guess that Windows Vista/7 has a simmilar tool called Wellcome Center.
+So, we need think on a better name to avoid lawsuits...
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%2C%0A%20alktodostemen%20alko%20te%20ha%20invitado%20a%20abrir%20una%20cuenta%20de%20Gmail.&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimoaL9TA6-Ed5ofKgTsLLTdsZ%3DP0nJqDOg%3DjoQ2%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>2010/9/29 alktodostemen alko &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alktodostemen at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Soy usuario de Gmail y he pensado que quiz&#225;s te gustar&#237;a probarlo. Te env&#237;o una invitaci&#243;n para que crees tu propia cuenta.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#161;Has recibido una invitaci&#243;n para usar Gmail!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Gmail es el servicio de correo electr&#243;nico gratuito de Google, dise&#241;ado para ser intuitivo, eficaz y divertido. Caracter&#237;sticas de Gmail:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Menos spam
+</I>&gt;<i> Evita que lleguen a &quot;Recibidos&quot; mensajes no deseados gracias a la tecnolog&#237;a innovadora de Google.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mucho espacio
+</I>&gt;<i> Suficiente capacidad de almacenamiento para que nunca tengas que eliminar m&#225;s mensajes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Chat incorporado
+</I>&gt;<i> Chatea a trav&#233;s de texto o v&#237;deo con alktodostemen alko y con otros amigos en tiempo real.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Acceso m&#243;vil
+</I>&gt;<i> Utiliza el correo electr&#243;nico en cualquier lugar con Gmail en tu tel&#233;fono m&#243;vil.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Incluso puedes importar tus contactos y correo electr&#243;nico de Yahoo!, Hotmail, AOL o cualquier otro servicio de correo web o cuenta POP.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cuando crees tu cuenta, se notificar&#225; a alktodostemen alko tu nueva direcci&#243;n de Gmail para que pod&#225;is seguir en contacto. Obt&#233;n m&#225;s informaci&#243;n o empieza a utilizar el servicio.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Registrarse
+</I>&gt;<i> Google Inc. | 1600 Ampitheatre Parkway | Mountain View, California 94043
+</I>
+Please don't do this. Thanks.
+
+
+--
+later, Robert Xu
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+&gt;<i> I'd say that Gustavo is right on this one. What do we really want : a
+</I>&gt;<i> setup/configuration tool to help newbies or a welcome page to help newbies
+</I>&gt;<i> recognized what the different apps in linux are for?
+</I>
+Maybe both: we can start showing a page with information and put it an &quot;Advanced
+options&quot; button what leads to other page with setup/configuration tools.
+
+But: place setup/configurations tools in Mageia Welcome Center won't does not
+become redundant MCC? Or maybe Mageia Welcome center should be a part of MCC?
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+&gt;<i> I found both aproaches really atractive and useful.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kaptan looks very intuitive, easy and centralize most (if not all) the
+</I>&gt;<i> most common and basic settings that a person with basic knowledge
+</I>&gt;<i> could need after the first boot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, wobo's aproach is also important. What happends if
+</I>&gt;<i> Kaptan-like-tool hangs in the first boot and close? That's where info
+</I>&gt;<i> page will be really really useful. This is an extreme example, but I
+</I>&gt;<i> think I presents the idea well. A newbie will be almost &quot;naked and
+</I>&gt;<i> screaming&quot; without to know where to go for help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But, if Kaptan-like-tool doesn't hang and works fine, it's always
+</I>&gt;<i> important to let people know where they have to go if anything goes
+</I>&gt;<i> wrong or where to meet other user. You never know when a user could
+</I>&gt;<i> become an important contributor.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-dev mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Main problem with Kaptan is that being a KDE tool. Otherwise, freezing
+on first boot should not a problem. We can set a default configuration
+for this purpose and user changes this configuration according to
+his/her taste via Kaptan. So if it s***ks on first screen then nothing
+to worry about. Also, an information page can be implemented as a
+first tab to Kaptan like i see in mockups in this thread. I' m not a
+programmer but i think implementing those should be easy. Main problem
+is like i said, porting Kaptan to GTK code.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd say that Gustavo is right on this one. What do we really want : a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> setup/configuration tool to help newbies or a welcome page to help newbies
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> recognized what the different apps in linux are for?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe both: we can start showing a page with information and put it an &quot;Advanced
+</I>&gt;<i> options&quot; button what leads to other page with setup/configuration tools.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But: place setup/configurations tools in Mageia Welcome Center won't does not
+</I>&gt;<i> become redundant MCC? Or maybe Mageia Welcome center should be a part of MCC?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-dev mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Welcome Center or Kaptan should more desktop/application assistance
+tool and not replace MCC. This tool should be limited to network
+connection and screen resolution configuration on system level. But
+should i.e. change theme, icons, default web browser setting etc.
+</PRE>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Olivier,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The idea here is not only to give general information during installation but
+</I>&gt;<i> to create a welcome screen that'll help newbies get around a linux distro :
+</I>&gt;<i> what are the major softs to use to cruise de net, create text document,
+</I>&gt;<i> listen to music, configure PC, desktop and such.
+</I>
+Put this kind of information during installation is perfect; So, that use what
+is having your first contact with GNU/Linux through Mageia won't be lost after
+system is running. Both ideas are good. Few distros have something like a
+Welcome Center.
+
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+<PRE>2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> I found both aproaches really atractive and useful.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kaptan looks very intuitive, easy and centralize most (if not all) the
+</I>&gt;<i> most common and basic settings that a person with basic knowledge
+</I>&gt;<i> could need after the first boot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, wobo's aproach is also important. What happends if
+</I>&gt;<i> Kaptan-like-tool hangs in the first boot and close? That's where info
+</I>&gt;<i> page will be really really useful. This is an extreme example, but I
+</I>&gt;<i> think I presents the idea well. A newbie will be almost &quot;naked and
+</I>&gt;<i> screaming&quot; without to know where to go for help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But, if Kaptan-like-tool doesn't hang and works fine, it's always
+</I>&gt;<i> important to let people know where they have to go if anything goes
+</I>&gt;<i> wrong or where to meet other user. You never know when a user could
+</I>&gt;<i> become an important contributor.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-dev mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Main problem with Kaptan is that being a KDE tool. Otherwise, freezing
+on first boot should not a problem. We can set a default configuration
+for this purpose and user changes this configuration according to
+his/her taste via Kaptan. So if it s***ks on first screen then nothing
+to worry about. Also, an information page can be implemented as a
+first tab to Kaptan like i see in mockups in this thread. I' m not a
+programmer but i think implementing those should be easy. Main problem
+is like i said, porting Kaptan to GTK code.
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+
+<A HREF="http://welcome.mageia.org">http://welcome.mageia.org</A> -&gt; the online version of Welcome Center, acessible
+from the same with news and links to frequent questions what will be at:
+
+<A HREF="http://kb.mageia.org">http://kb.mageia.org</A> -&gt; A full knowledge base in the form of questions and
+answers for both basic users and for advanced users, with subjects divided into
+categories and built by the community. Answers for questions as: &quot;How do I
+change my desktop wallpaper?&quot;, &quot;How do I change my screen resolution?&quot;, &quot;Where
+do the files that I receive in conversations via Pidgin?&quot;, &quot;How do I scan a
+image?&quot; et coetera, all in a easy, informal and clear language.
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+&gt;<i> I remembered now that Welcome center will lead to creation of more two pages:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://welcome.mageia.org">http://welcome.mageia.org</A> -&gt; the online version of Welcome Center, acessible
+</I>&gt;<i> from the same with news and links to frequent questions what will be at:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://kb.mageia.org">http://kb.mageia.org</A> -&gt; A full knowledge base in the form of questions and
+</I>&gt;<i> answers for both basic users and for advanced users, with subjects divided into
+</I>&gt;<i> categories and built by the community. Answers for questions as: &quot;How do I
+</I>&gt;<i> change my desktop wallpaper?&quot;, &quot;How do I change my screen resolution?&quot;, &quot;Where
+</I>&gt;<i> do the files that I receive in conversations via Pidgin?&quot;, &quot;How do I scan a
+</I>&gt;<i> image?&quot; et coetera, all in a easy, informal and clear language.
+</I>
+For the knowledge base, we will already have a lot of documentation work
+to do and a huge work to build and improve our web services. Perhaps it
+would be better to base ourselves on GetSatisfaction.com at first?
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+&gt;<i> I remembered now that Welcome center will lead to creation of more two pages:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://welcome.mageia.org">http://welcome.mageia.org</A> -&gt; the online version of Welcome Center, acessible
+</I>&gt;<i> from the same with news and links to frequent questions what will be at:
+</I>
+It will lead to the mageia.org news page. The link to FAQ will lead to
+the wiki which will be the structure for the KB.
+
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://kb.mageia.org">http://kb.mageia.org</A> -&gt;
+</I>will lead to the wiki portal for the KB.
+
+No need to have redundances.
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+
+On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:03:05 +0000 (UTC), Andre Machado wrote about
+[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?:
+
+&gt;<i><A HREF="http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png">http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png</A>
+</I>
+And this is supposed to cover my whole desktop? Please: no.
+
+I don't mean to be disrespectful, but if I started up my computer and saw
+this, I'd think I'd bought a tool for children instead of an adult operated
+personal computer.
+
+/Ducking for flame throwers.
+
+I regret that I do not very much like the idea. But if everyone on this
+list wants it: okay.
+
+Best regards,
+=Dick Gevers=
+
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+<PRE>OK, but we need put a online version of WC. Maybe, instead of put a FAQ list,
+put links to random wiki artcles. As to the knowledge base, I recognize that
+with the wiki, it really is not necessary.
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+<PRE>Dick Gevers &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dvgevers at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Dear Andre!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:03:05 +0000 (UTC), Andre Machado wrote about
+</I>&gt;<i> [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;<A HREF="http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png">http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And this is supposed to cover my whole desktop? Please: no.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't mean to be disrespectful, but if I started up my computer and saw
+</I>&gt;<i> this, I'd think I'd bought a tool for children instead of an adult operated
+</I>&gt;<i> personal computer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> /Ducking for flame throwers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I regret that I do not very much like the idea. But if everyone on this
+</I>&gt;<i> list wants it: okay.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> =Dick Gevers=
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Dick,
+
+Your views are welcome. I should remember that that you saw is just a draft. I
+did a better version - which is also a draft - here.
+
+<A HREF="http://www.sendspace.com/file/n29kae">http://www.sendspace.com/file/n29kae</A>
+
+The intention is that it's just a window with a lower resolution than 800x600
+that can be easily disabled. The Audience is that users that are having your
+first contacts with GNU/Linux. In others follow-ups of this threads, we are
+having interesting ideas.
+
+
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+&gt;<i> Nooo! unless you want the guy maintaining the go-oo/libreoffice
+</I>&gt;<i> packages to commit suicide :)
+</I>
+There may be a maintainer for each suite, as there may be a regular for the
+Linux kernel and other kernel for Free.
+
+In the latter case, we do a poll;)
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+&gt;<i> we can have both packages :)
+</I>
+I say more: we SHOULD have both packages :)
+
+And shoud have too OxygenOffice and BROffice, this, the same OpenOffice but the
+Brazilian version, that changed its name due to a legal question with a local
+enterprise what is a ownership to OpenOffice name in this country :( .
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+<PRE>On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:07:02 +0000 (UTC), Andr&#233; Machado wrote about Re:
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+
+&gt;<i>The Audience is that users that are having your first contacts with
+</I>&gt;<i>GNU/Linux.
+</I>
+I remembered ages ago a certain Redmond product asking me &quot;What do you want
+to do today?&quot; I could only think of the answer: &quot;None of your business&quot;
+
+Sorry!
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+Best regards,
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+<PRE>guys, I just found out that Linux Mint has something similar to what we want to
+implement, but the difference is that theirs has only links to the websites of
+our community and will have links to the most common tasks that the user will
+perform:
+
+<A HREF="http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/cleitoncfl/Captura_de_tela-1.png">http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/cleitoncfl/Captura_de_tela-1.png</A>
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+even so, that the Mint is very beautiful.
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] So?">boklm at mars-attacks.org
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+ <I>Wed Sep 29 23:58:52 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, nicolas vigier wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, Lucien-Henry Horvath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The kind of responses I expected was just :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Ex-employes are making the governance (oopps, you have responded thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for that ;-) )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - We have in prevision to make a meeting in 1-2 weeks (or 1-2 monthes). Or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; even : They have no prevision at this time ... because in our bases little
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; team no decision is realy take in this sens at this time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess many people will be at fosdem, so there will probably be a
+</I>&gt;<i> meeting there, but that's still in a long time. Maybe other meetings
+</I>&gt;<i> before, but not planned yet. The priority is now to setup everything
+</I>&gt;<i> quickly to have the project running.
+</I>
+And if you're going to Open World Forum tomorrow (thursday) in Paris,
+you can also meet some of us there.
+
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+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 23:58:52 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 75<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000385.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000402.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000405.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000410.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000382.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000392.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000396.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000412.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000439.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000393.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000387.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000381.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000384.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000413.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dubeau, Patrick
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000426.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dubeau, Patrick
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000440.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000445.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000389.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000394.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000395.html">[Mageia-dev] &quot;Provisional&quot; Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct
+</A><A NAME="395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000408.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000415.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000419.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000422.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000374.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000377.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000409.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000403.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000417.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000404.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000424.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000425.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000438.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000376.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000378.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000388.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000427.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000430.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000432.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000435.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000437.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000441.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000442.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000444.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000443.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000446.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000407.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000421.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000373.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000380.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000383.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000397.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer
+</A><A NAME="397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000401.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer
+</A><A NAME="401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000423.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000379.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthieu P
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000406.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000414.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000420.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000398.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer
+</A><A NAME="398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000400.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000418.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000375.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000372.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV
+</A><A NAME="372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000399.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer
+</A><A NAME="399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000416.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000390.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000391.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000431.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia, alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.
+</A><A NAME="431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000428.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>alktodostemen alko
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000429.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia, alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.
+</A><A NAME="429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>alktodostemen alko
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000386.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000411.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000436.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000434.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000447.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
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+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 23:58:52 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 75<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000372.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV
+</A><A NAME="372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000373.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000374.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000375.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000376.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000377.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000378.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000379.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthieu P
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000380.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000381.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000382.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000383.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000384.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000385.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000386.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000387.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000388.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000389.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000390.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000391.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000393.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000392.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000394.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000395.html">[Mageia-dev] &quot;Provisional&quot; Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct
+</A><A NAME="395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000396.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000397.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer
+</A><A NAME="397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000398.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer
+</A><A NAME="398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000399.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer
+</A><A NAME="399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000400.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000401.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer
+</A><A NAME="401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000402.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000403.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000404.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000405.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000406.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000407.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000408.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000409.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000410.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000413.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dubeau, Patrick
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000411.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000417.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000412.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000414.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000415.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000416.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000418.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000419.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000420.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000421.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000422.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000423.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000424.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000425.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000426.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dubeau, Patrick
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000427.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000428.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>alktodostemen alko
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000429.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia, alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.
+</A><A NAME="429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>alktodostemen alko
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000430.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000431.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia, alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.
+</A><A NAME="431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000432.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000436.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000434.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000435.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000437.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000438.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000439.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000440.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000441.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000442.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000444.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000443.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000445.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000446.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000447.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Sep 29 23:58:52 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 23:58:56 CEST 2010</i>
+ <p>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
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+ <h1>29 September 2010 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 00:04:31 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 23:58:52 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 75<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000395.html">[Mageia-dev] &quot;Provisional&quot; Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct
+</A><A NAME="395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000372.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV
+</A><A NAME="372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000406.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000407.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000409.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000417.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000416.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000418.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000419.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000420.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000421.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000422.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000424.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000444.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000443.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000397.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer
+</A><A NAME="397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000398.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer
+</A><A NAME="398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000399.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer
+</A><A NAME="399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000401.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer
+</A><A NAME="401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000429.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia, alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.
+</A><A NAME="429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>alktodostemen alko
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000431.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia, alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.
+</A><A NAME="431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000373.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000374.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000375.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000378.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000384.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000389.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000391.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000393.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000392.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000394.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000396.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000400.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000447.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000413.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dubeau, Patrick
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000415.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000426.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dubeau, Patrick
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000432.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000436.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000434.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000435.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000377.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000381.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000382.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000385.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000386.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000388.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000390.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000402.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000403.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000405.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000408.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000410.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000411.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000412.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000414.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000423.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000427.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000428.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>alktodostemen alko
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000430.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000437.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000439.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000441.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000442.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000446.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000376.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000379.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthieu P
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000380.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000383.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000387.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000404.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000425.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000438.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000440.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000445.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Sep 29 23:58:52 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 23:58:56 CEST 2010</i>
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+ <h1>29 September 2010 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 00:04:31 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 23:58:52 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 75<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01285711471- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000372.html">[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV
+</A><A NAME="372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285713858- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000373.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285718571- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000374.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285720396- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000375.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285722185- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000376.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285722185-01285722784- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000377.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285722185-01285722784-01285741774- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000379.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthieu P
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01285722185-01285743855- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000380.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000381.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285746052- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000383.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285746052-01285792629- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000437.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285746052-01285792629-01285793490- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000438.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285746052-01285792629-01285793604- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000439.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285746052-01285792629-01285793604-01285794112- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000441.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285759407- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000388.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285759407-01285762414- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000390.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285759407-01285777479- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000404.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285759407-01285777479-01285778068- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000405.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285759407-01285777479-01285778068-01285779039- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000408.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285759407-01285777479-01285778068-01285779039-01285779836- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000410.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285759407-01285777479-01285778068-01285779039-01285781624- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000413.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dubeau, Patrick
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285759407-01285777479-01285778068-01285779039-01285781624-01285783768- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000415.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285759407-01285777479-01285778068-01285779039-01285781624-01285783768-01285791629- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000436.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285759407-01285777479-01285778068-01285779039-01285781624-01285791478- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000432.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285759407-01285777479-01285778068-01285779039-01285781624-01285791478-01285791840- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000434.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285759407-01285777479-01285778068-01285779039-01285782618- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000412.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285759407-01285777479-01285778068-01285779039-01285783105- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000414.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285743855-01285745739-01285759407-01285777479-01285790928- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000430.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01285722185-01285743855-01285745903- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000382.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01285722185-01285752531- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000385.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285722185-01285752531-01285755158- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000386.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285722185-01285752531-01285755158-01285759012- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000387.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro Cazzaniga
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285752531-01285755158-01285775594- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000402.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285752531-01285755158-01285775594-01285776232- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000403.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285722185-01285752531-01285755158-01285775594-01285776232-01285781902- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000411.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>atilla ontas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01285722185-01285788297- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000423.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier M&#233;jean
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285722185-01285788297-01285789308- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000425.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01285722185-01285788297-01285789649- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000426.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dubeau, Patrick
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285722185-01285788297-01285789649-01285792040- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000435.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?
+</A><A NAME="435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01285722185-01285790349- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000427.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285722185-01285790349-01285790785- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000428.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>alktodostemen alko
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01285722185-01285793954- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000440.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285722185-01285793954-01285794422- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000442.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285722185-01285793954-01285794422-01285795210- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000445.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01285722185-01285796304- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000446.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?
+</A><A NAME="446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285723835- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000378.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andre Machado
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285723835-01285747522- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000384.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mihai Dobrescu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285760431- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000389.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285760431-01285762789- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000391.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285760431-01285762789-01285763534- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000393.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01285760431-01285762789-01285763626- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000392.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01285760431-01285762789-01285764872- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000394.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285760431-01285762789-01285764872-01285766753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000396.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285760431-01285762789-01285764872-01285766753-01285767583- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000400.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285766608- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000395.html">[Mageia-dev] &quot;Provisional&quot; Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct
+</A><A NAME="395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01285767278- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000397.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer
+</A><A NAME="397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285767278-01285767394- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000398.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer
+</A><A NAME="398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285767278-01285767394-01285767591- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000401.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer
+</A><A NAME="401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01285767278-01285767410- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000399.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer
+</A><A NAME="399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285778568- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000406.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285778568-01285778935- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000407.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adrian Marcinkowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285778568-01285778935-01285784717- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000416.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01285778568-01285779070- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000409.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida J&#250;nior
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01285778568-01285782215- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000417.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Graham Lauder
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01285778568-01285782215-01285786633- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000418.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01285778568-01285782215-01285786633-01285787011- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000419.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285778568-01285782215-01285786633-01285787011-01285787588- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000421.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lombard Marianne
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285778568-01285782215-01285786633-01285787011-01285788200- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000422.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gustavo Giampaoli
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285778568-01285782215-01285786633-01285787011-01285788200-01285788722- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000424.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285778568-01285782215-01285786633-01285787549- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000420.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285778568-01285782215-01285786633-01285787549-01285794782- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000443.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01285778568-01285782215-01285786633-01285794617- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000444.html">[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?
+</A><A NAME="444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Machado
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285790823- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000429.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia, alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.
+</A><A NAME="429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>alktodostemen alko
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01285790823-01285790955- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000431.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia, alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.
+</A><A NAME="431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Xu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01285797532- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000447.html">[Mageia-dev] So?
+</A><A NAME="447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Sep 29 23:58:52 CEST 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 23:58:56 CEST 2010</i>
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