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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+ <I>Sat Oct 1 19:24:05 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+Here is a summary of all hardware that we should buy for next trip to
+Marseille datacenter.
+
+
+- An ARM build host. We have a pandaboard given by PLF, however it seems
+ to require a specific old kernel to run, and would be difficult to use
+ as a build host (at least for now). So we need to buy a new ARM board
+ if we want to add ARM to the build system soon. RTP suggests buying this
+ board from Freescale :
+ <A HREF="http://fr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Freescale-Semiconductor/MCIMX53-START/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMspbelMIdDJdKswmyqRD7aG">http://fr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Freescale-Semiconductor/MCIMX53-START/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMspbelMIdDJdKswmyqRD7aG</A>
+ 122,93 euros
+
+- new disk to replace failing disks on ecosse and on valstar, and 2 new
+ disks for build nodes (raid1 for system fs, raid0 for build filesystem
+ for improved performances), and a disk for the ARM board :
+ 2TB (valstar) + 1TB * 4 =&gt; 169.99 + 4 * 84.99 = 509.95 euros
+ <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html</A>
+ <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html</A>
+ WD RE4 drives are more expensive than Caviar Black, but seems to be
+ better if we want less disk failures.
+
+- backup server : we need a server with a lot of disk space, to save
+ data from other servers. Fast CPU or a lot of ram is not needed on
+ this server.
+ dams suggested buying this server :
+ <A HREF="http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&amp;c=fr&amp;l=fr&amp;s=bsd&amp;cs=frbsdt1&amp;model_id=poweredge-r415">http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&amp;c=fr&amp;l=fr&amp;s=bsd&amp;cs=frbsdt1&amp;model_id=poweredge-r415</A>
+ 899 euros
+ adding :
+ * Redundant power supply (132 euros)
+ * 4 * 1TB disks (4 * 332 euros)
+ Total: 2 261 euros
+ So total is quite expensive. An other solution could be to buy a cheap
+ computer that one of us keep at home/office, doing remote backups. Or
+ maybe we can find someone to donate a server, so that we only need to
+ buy disks for the server. Maybe we can ask for hardware donations for
+ this server on mageia-dev and/or blog ?
+
+- server for packagers, to host VMs used to test package builds. This
+ needs to be a fast server, with a lot of RAM. Should we buy an
+ expensive server for this now ? Or wait until we have more money, or
+ someone donate a server for this ? Or rent a server at 60 euros /
+ month on online.net ?
+ <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-pro-r210.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-pro-r210.xhtml</A>
+
+Any comments about this ?
+
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+ <I>Sat Oct 1 20:19:47 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 19:24, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> &#160;Total: 2 261 euros
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;So total is quite expensive.
+</I>
+Provided the role these hardware will play, this looks still rather
+cheap on the contrary. There may be alternatives but this doesn't look
+that expensive.
+
+&gt;<i> An other solution could be to buy a cheap
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;computer that one of us keep at home/office, doing remote backups.
+</I>
+That's an option too, either way (with or without the above).
+
+&gt;<i> &#160;maybe we can find someone to donate a server, so that we only need to
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;buy disks for the server. Maybe we can ask for hardware donations for
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;this server on mageia-dev and/or blog ?
+</I>
+We already have donations from the previous months that were, among
+other things, precisely for this kind of investment.
+
+&gt;<i> - server for packagers, to host VMs used to test package builds. This
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;needs to be a fast server, with a lot of RAM. Should we buy an
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;expensive server for this now ? Or wait until we have more money, or
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;someone donate a server for this ? Or rent a server at 60 euros /
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;month on online.net ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;<A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-pro-r210.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-pro-r210.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any comments about this ?
+</I>
+We should not wait but do with what we have, and tell about it, and
+remind regularly where we are in our budget (what's missing, what's
+needed, etc.) and how we can grow it. Once the ball is rolling, it's
+easier to find people willing to help it roll even further.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>Op zaterdag 01 oktober 2011 20:19:47 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 19:24, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Total: 2 261 euros
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So total is quite expensive.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Provided the role these hardware will play, this looks still rather
+</I>&gt;<i> cheap on the contrary. There may be alternatives but this doesn't look
+</I>&gt;<i> that expensive.
+</I>
+that's more or less true.
+
+for a backup if we can to go cheaper, we could by a small cheap nas &quot;qnap?&quot;
+(300EUR) (low power) and put bigger disks 4x1.5TB or 4x2TB in it; we could
+connect it to one of the servers to do the backup. or just someone at home is
+also ok for me.
+
+any money saved for this backup, could be spend on a 3rd buildnode. also, we
+seem to have blades? so maybe it's easier if we have spare room to buy such a
+blade for buildnode and put it in there, maybe it's cheaper that way, or maybe
+we can buy 2 for the price of one that way?
+
+i think for backup even though it's already cheap maybe not a server is
+required for it, just the storage.
+
+and I think the buildnode is quite expensive, but maybe it's needed for our
+growth and when doing releases...
+
+just my 2cents
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+<PRE>Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 19:24, nicolas vigier&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Total: 2 261 euros
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So total is quite expensive.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That was my first reaction ... But then I thought WAIT, this isn't a
+typical consumer or small business application ...
+
+&gt;<i> Provided the role these hardware will play, this looks still rather
+</I>&gt;<i> cheap on the contrary. There may be alternatives but this doesn't look
+</I>&gt;<i> that expensive.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Agreed.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> An other solution could be to buy a cheap
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> computer that one of us keep at home/office, doing remote backups.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's an option too, either way (with or without the above).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+We should have off-site backup, in case of a disaster at the centre. At
+least for critical info.
+If someone has to go to the centre, or we have to spend a lot of time
+downloading, at least we will have an up-to-date backup if it is remote.
+I'd say that good quality disks and a UPS is important.
+A cheap box that someone keeps at home/office seems workable, as long as
+there is a fast Internet connexion for restores.
+Keeping occasional local backups at the centre, combined with up-to-date
+remote backups would be a good idea.
+So normally in the case of failure, we rsync the local backup with the
+remote for quick recovery, but in the case of a disaster, we still have
+everything remote.
+All that impacts on our hardware decisions.
+
+...
+&gt;&gt;<i> - server for packagers, to host VMs used to test package builds. This
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> needs to be a fast server, with a lot of RAM. Should we buy an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> expensive server for this now ? Or wait until we have more money, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> someone donate a server for this ? Or rent a server at 60 euros /
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> month on online.net ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-pro-r210.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-pro-r210.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+My bias is that buying is better than renting, if we can.
+(In a year or two the rental would have paid the cost of buying.)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Any comments about this ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We should not wait but do with what we have, and tell about it, and
+</I>&gt;<i> remind regularly where we are in our budget (what's missing, what's
+</I>&gt;<i> needed, etc.) and how we can grow it. Once the ball is rolling, it's
+</I>&gt;<i> easier to find people willing to help it roll even further.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Good point.
+
+&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+My 2 cents :)
+
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+something kept touch()ing rpmsrate (media/media_info/rpmsrate) on both
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+This cause mirrors to reget the file for no good reason.
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+It should only be touched when uploading a new meta-task
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+<PRE>nicolas vigier skrev 1.10.2011 20:24:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is a summary of all hardware that we should buy for next trip to
+</I>&gt;<i> Marseille datacenter.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - An ARM build host. We have a pandaboard given by PLF, however it seems
+</I>&gt;<i> to require a specific old kernel to run, and would be difficult to use
+</I>&gt;<i> as a build host (at least for now). So we need to buy a new ARM board
+</I>&gt;<i> if we want to add ARM to the build system soon. RTP suggests buying this
+</I>&gt;<i> board from Freescale :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Freescale-Semiconductor/MCIMX53-START/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMspbelMIdDJdKswmyqRD7aG">http://fr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Freescale-Semiconductor/MCIMX53-START/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMspbelMIdDJdKswmyqRD7aG</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 122,93 euros
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I guess RTP knows best about arm, so no objections...
+
+&gt;<i> - new disk to replace failing disks on ecosse and on valstar, and 2 new
+</I>&gt;<i> disks for build nodes (raid1 for system fs, raid0 for build filesystem
+</I>&gt;<i> for improved performances), and a disk for the ARM board :
+</I>&gt;<i> 2TB (valstar) + 1TB * 4 =&gt; 169.99 + 4 * 84.99 = 509.95 euros
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> WD RE4 drives are more expensive than Caviar Black, but seems to be
+</I>&gt;<i> better if we want less disk failures.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yep. the Raid Edition disks are very reliable.
+I think we should even switch both disks on valstar as it's the most
+important server we have.
+
+&gt;<i> - backup server : we need a server with a lot of disk space, to save
+</I>&gt;<i> data from other servers. Fast CPU or a lot of ram is not needed on
+</I>&gt;<i> this server.
+</I>&gt;<i> dams suggested buying this server :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&amp;c=fr&amp;l=fr&amp;s=bsd&amp;cs=frbsdt1&amp;model_id=poweredge-r415">http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&amp;c=fr&amp;l=fr&amp;s=bsd&amp;cs=frbsdt1&amp;model_id=poweredge-r415</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 899 euros
+</I>&gt;<i> adding :
+</I>&gt;<i> * Redundant power supply (132 euros)
+</I>&gt;<i> * 4 * 1TB disks (4 * 332 euros)
+</I>&gt;<i> Total: 2 261 euros
+</I>
+So a max of ~3TB disk space (with raid5).
+
+I'd also suggest a: iDRAC6 Express remote card for 67&#8364;
+
+And then send theese specs as on offer request to a Dell sales
+representative, as they can give better prices than the online configurator.
+
+&gt;<i> So total is quite expensive. An other solution could be to buy a cheap
+</I>&gt;<i> computer that one of us keep at home/office, doing remote backups. Or
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe we can find someone to donate a server, so that we only need to
+</I>&gt;<i> buy disks for the server. Maybe we can ask for hardware donations for
+</I>&gt;<i> this server on mageia-dev and/or blog ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Of course if someone want to donate a server, that would be nice too.
+
+I can do remote backups as a (secondary) &quot;offsite&quot; backup if necessary.
+
+
+&gt;<i> - server for packagers, to host VMs used to test package builds. This
+</I>&gt;<i> needs to be a fast server, with a lot of RAM. Should we buy an
+</I>&gt;<i> expensive server for this now ? Or wait until we have more money, or
+</I>&gt;<i> someone donate a server for this ? Or rent a server at 60 euros /
+</I>&gt;<i> month on online.net ?
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-pro-r210.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-pro-r210.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I'd go for an own server if we have the cash (and if not ask for
+contributions (hw/cash)....)
+
+But one thing... How much rack space do we have available ?
+
+--
+Thomas
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+<PRE>On Sat, 01 Oct 2011, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 19:24, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;Total: 2 261 euros
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;So total is quite expensive.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Provided the role these hardware will play, this looks still rather
+</I>&gt;<i> cheap on the contrary. There may be alternatives but this doesn't look
+</I>&gt;<i> that expensive.
+</I>
+I think 2000 euros for a server that will only do backups is expensive.
+We could buy a cheap server like this on ebay :
+<A HREF="http://www.ebay.com/itm/EMC-EMC2-Centera-SN3-1U-Rack-Storage-Server-SAN-WORKS-/290613771957?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&amp;hash=item43a9ee3eb5#ht_4902wt_1272">http://www.ebay.com/itm/EMC-EMC2-Centera-SN3-1U-Rack-Storage-Server-SAN-WORKS-/290613771957?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&amp;hash=item43a9ee3eb5#ht_4902wt_1272</A>
+<A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.fr/SUPERMICRO-Serveur-Rackable-P4-3GHz-/360375218814?pt=FR_GH_Informatique_R%C3%A9seau_Wi_Fi_Serveurs_Stations&amp;hash=item53e809727e">http://cgi.ebay.fr/SUPERMICRO-Serveur-Rackable-P4-3GHz-/360375218814?pt=FR_GH_Informatique_R%C3%A9seau_Wi_Fi_Serveurs_Stations&amp;hash=item53e809727e</A>
+add 4 sata drives and do the same backups.
+
+If we have 2000 euros for a server, I think it would be better to buy
+a fast server for packagers, with 12 cores, 32GB of RAM and one disk.
+If we have more money we can replace disks in build nodes with 240GB SSD.
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+<PRE>On Sun, 02 Oct 2011, Thomas Backlund wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> But one thing... How much rack space do we have available ?
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+Good question :)
+I don't remember how much space we have remaining. Maybe misc or damsweb
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+</I>&gt;<i> something kept touch()ing rpmsrate (media/media_info/rpmsrate) on both
+</I>&gt;<i> mga1 and cauldron for no reason.
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+</I>&gt;<i> This cause mirrors to reget the file for no good reason.
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+</I>&gt;<i> It should only be touched when uploading a new meta-task
+</I>&gt;<i> and only on the distro it has been uploaded to.
+</I>
+This is probably a bug in the youri action, trying to look at it but I
+will board my 11 hours flight very soon so feel free to look at it
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 00:19, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something kept touch()ing rpmsrate (media/media_info/rpmsrate) on both
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mga1 and cauldron for no reason.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This cause mirrors to reget the file for no good reason.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It should only be touched when uploading a new meta-task
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and only on the distro it has been uploaded to.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is probably a bug in the youri action, trying to look at it but I
+</I>&gt;<i> will board my 11 hours flight very soon so feel free to look at it
+</I>&gt;<i> while I'm offline :)
+</I>
+It seems to be done for every upload.
+Maybe because of stuff like language packages where new ones can be added ?
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+<PRE>Le 01/10/2011 19:24, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is a summary of all hardware that we should buy for next trip to
+</I>&gt;<i> Marseille datacenter.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - new disk to replace failing disks on ecosse and on valstar, and 2 new
+</I>&gt;<i> disks for build nodes (raid1 for system fs, raid0 for build filesystem
+</I>&gt;<i> for improved performances), and a disk for the ARM board :
+</I>&gt;<i> 2TB (valstar) + 1TB * 4 =&gt; 169.99 + 4 * 84.99 = 509.95 euros
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> WD RE4 drives are more expensive than Caviar Black, but seems to be
+</I>&gt;<i> better if we want less disk failures.
+</I>
+Remember that WD Caviar Black are guaranteed for 5 years. I will send
+them back to WD. So we will have new Caviar Black for spare.
+
+&gt;<i> - backup server : we need a server with a lot of disk space, to save
+</I>&gt;<i> data from other servers. Fast CPU or a lot of ram is not needed on
+</I>&gt;<i> this server.
+</I>&gt;<i> dams suggested buying this server :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&amp;c=fr&amp;l=fr&amp;s=bsd&amp;cs=frbsdt1&amp;model_id=poweredge-r415">http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&amp;c=fr&amp;l=fr&amp;s=bsd&amp;cs=frbsdt1&amp;model_id=poweredge-r415</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 899 euros
+</I>&gt;<i> adding :
+</I>&gt;<i> * Redundant power supply (132 euros)
+</I>&gt;<i> * 4 * 1TB disks (4 * 332 euros)
+</I>&gt;<i> Total: 2 261 euros
+</I>&gt;<i> So total is quite expensive. An other solution could be to buy a cheap
+</I>&gt;<i> computer that one of us keep at home/office, doing remote backups. Or
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe we can find someone to donate a server, so that we only need to
+</I>&gt;<i> buy disks for the server. Maybe we can ask for hardware donations for
+</I>&gt;<i> this server on mageia-dev and/or blog ?
+</I>
+Not expensive for my POV as is a new brand machine: if it fails in the
+first years, no need to buy spare and go to Marseille! Renting a server
+for the same time than the guarantee will cost the same (or even better
+as GB are really expensive when renting) thing for a single &quot;rent&quot;.
+
+&gt;<i> - server for packagers, to host VMs used to test package builds. This
+</I>&gt;<i> needs to be a fast server, with a lot of RAM. Should we buy an
+</I>&gt;<i> expensive server for this now ? Or wait until we have more money, or
+</I>&gt;<i> someone donate a server for this ? Or rent a server at 60 euros /
+</I>&gt;<i> month on online.net ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+A guy from the community offer to rent
+<A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-classic.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-classic.xhtml</A>
+Can it suit packagers need (local build machine)?
+If not enough for packagers build test machine, we know that we will
+have this &quot;dedibox&quot; available for something else!
+If no need, we will put the 35&#8364; per month on a other expense.
+
+Dams
+--
+Damien Lallement
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+<PRE>On 03/10/2011 14:27, Damien Lallement wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 01/10/2011 19:24, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here is a summary of all hardware that we should buy for next trip to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marseille datacenter.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - new disk to replace failing disks on ecosse and on valstar, and 2 new
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> disks for build nodes (raid1 for system fs, raid0 for build
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> filesystem
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for improved performances), and a disk for the ARM board :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2TB (valstar) + 1TB * 4 =&gt; 169.99 + 4 * 84.99 = 509.95 euros
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> WD RE4 drives are more expensive than Caviar Black, but seems to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> better if we want less disk failures.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Remember that WD Caviar Black are guaranteed for 5 years. I will send
+</I>&gt;<i> them back to WD. So we will have new Caviar Black for spare.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - backup server : we need a server with a lot of disk space, to save
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> data from other servers. Fast CPU or a lot of ram is not needed on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dams suggested buying this server :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&amp;c=fr&amp;l=fr&amp;s=bsd&amp;cs=frbsdt1&amp;model_id=poweredge-r415">http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&amp;c=fr&amp;l=fr&amp;s=bsd&amp;cs=frbsdt1&amp;model_id=poweredge-r415</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 899 euros
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> adding :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Redundant power supply (132 euros)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * 4 * 1TB disks (4 * 332 euros)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Total: 2 261 euros
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So total is quite expensive. An other solution could be to buy a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cheap
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> computer that one of us keep at home/office, doing remote backups. Or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maybe we can find someone to donate a server, so that we only need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> buy disks for the server. Maybe we can ask for hardware donations for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this server on mageia-dev and/or blog ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not expensive for my POV as is a new brand machine: if it fails in the
+</I>&gt;<i> first years, no need to buy spare and go to Marseille! Renting a
+</I>&gt;<i> server for the same time than the guarantee will cost the same (or
+</I>&gt;<i> even better as GB are really expensive when renting) thing for a
+</I>&gt;<i> single &quot;rent&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - server for packagers, to host VMs used to test package builds. This
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> needs to be a fast server, with a lot of RAM. Should we buy an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> expensive server for this now ? Or wait until we have more money, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> someone donate a server for this ? Or rent a server at 60 euros /
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> month on online.net ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A guy from the community offer to rent
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-classic.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-classic.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can it suit packagers need (local build machine)?
+</I>&gt;<i> If not enough for packagers build test machine, we know that we will
+</I>&gt;<i> have this &quot;dedibox&quot; available for something else!
+</I>&gt;<i> If no need, we will put the 35&#8364; per month on a other expense.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Dams
+</I>Just a side note : as i'm now working in Marseille i'm even closer to
+ielo...
+
+i can replace a disk :)
+
+Just send me them and i'll send you back the fskc ones :)
+
+Cheers
+
+
+
+
+--
+Life is magic
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, 03 Oct 2011, Damien Lallement wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Le 01/10/2011 19:24, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here is a summary of all hardware that we should buy for next trip to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marseille datacenter.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - new disk to replace failing disks on ecosse and on valstar, and 2 new
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> disks for build nodes (raid1 for system fs, raid0 for build filesystem
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for improved performances), and a disk for the ARM board :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2TB (valstar) + 1TB * 4 =&gt; 169.99 + 4 * 84.99 = 509.95 euros
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> WD RE4 drives are more expensive than Caviar Black, but seems to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> better if we want less disk failures.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Remember that WD Caviar Black are guaranteed for 5 years. I will send them
+</I>&gt;<i> back to WD. So we will have new Caviar Black for spare.
+</I>
+Yes.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - backup server : we need a server with a lot of disk space, to save
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> data from other servers. Fast CPU or a lot of ram is not needed on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dams suggested buying this server :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&amp;c=fr&amp;l=fr&amp;s=bsd&amp;cs=frbsdt1&amp;model_id=poweredge-r415">http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&amp;c=fr&amp;l=fr&amp;s=bsd&amp;cs=frbsdt1&amp;model_id=poweredge-r415</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 899 euros
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> adding :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Redundant power supply (132 euros)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * 4 * 1TB disks (4 * 332 euros)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Total: 2 261 euros
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So total is quite expensive. An other solution could be to buy a cheap
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> computer that one of us keep at home/office, doing remote backups. Or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maybe we can find someone to donate a server, so that we only need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> buy disks for the server. Maybe we can ask for hardware donations for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this server on mageia-dev and/or blog ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not expensive for my POV as is a new brand machine: if it fails in the
+</I>&gt;<i> first years, no need to buy spare and go to Marseille! Renting a server for
+</I>
+But can they replace the server in Marseille without us going there ? It
+seems difficult.
+
+If we buy an old server at 200 euros, even if we need to replace it 3
+times, it would still be cheaper than 2000 euros.
+
+
+&gt;<i> the same time than the guarantee will cost the same (or even better as GB
+</I>&gt;<i> are really expensive when renting) thing for a single &quot;rent&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - server for packagers, to host VMs used to test package builds. This
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> needs to be a fast server, with a lot of RAM. Should we buy an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> expensive server for this now ? Or wait until we have more money, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> someone donate a server for this ? Or rent a server at 60 euros /
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> month on online.net ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A guy from the community offer to rent
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-classic.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-classic.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can it suit packagers need (local build machine)?
+</I>&gt;<i> If not enough for packagers build test machine, we know that we will have
+</I>&gt;<i> this &quot;dedibox&quot; available for something else!
+</I>&gt;<i> If no need, we will put the 35&#8364; per month on a other expense.
+</I>
+We need a server for packagers. But preferably something fast as multiple
+people will be building packages at the same time. So the server at 60
+euros per month would be better. Or we can buy a dell server with
+12 cores, 32GB for 2200 euros :
+<A HREF="http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf">http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf</A>
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+<PRE>Le 02/10/2011 21:26, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> nicolas vigier skrev 1.10.2011 20:24:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> But one thing... How much rack space do we have available ?
+</I>
+It remains 7U IIRC.
+--
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+<PRE>Op maandag 03 oktober 2011 16:11:04 schreef nicolas vigier:
+&gt;<i> &gt; Remember that WD Caviar Black are guaranteed for 5 years. I will send
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; them back to WD. So we will have new Caviar Black for spare.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes.
+</I>
+good news, let's go with that.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - backup server : we need a server with a lot of disk space, to save
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; data from other servers. Fast CPU or a lot of ram is not needed on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; this server.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; dams suggested buying this server :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&amp;c=fr&amp;">http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&amp;c=fr&amp;</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; l=fr&amp;s=bsd&amp;cs=frbsdt1&amp;model_id=poweredge-r415 899 euros
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; adding :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * Redundant power supply (132 euros)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * 4 * 1TB disks (4 * 332 euros)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Total: 2 261 euros
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; So total is quite expensive. An other solution could be to buy a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; cheap computer that one of us keep at home/office, doing remote
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; backups. Or maybe we can find someone to donate a server, so that we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; only need to buy disks for the server. Maybe we can ask for hardware
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; donations for this server on mageia-dev and/or blog ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Not expensive for my POV as is a new brand machine: if it fails in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; first years, no need to buy spare and go to Marseille! Renting a server
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But can they replace the server in Marseille without us going there ? It
+</I>&gt;<i> seems difficult.
+</I>
+i think ma&#226;t can do it.
+
+&gt;<i> If we buy an old server at 200 euros, even if we need to replace it 3
+</I>&gt;<i> times, it would still be cheaper than 2000 euros.
+</I>
+i agree here, just buy 3 servers at 200, if one fails, the 2 others are
+combined faster than 1 new one, and still cheaper
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; the same time than the guarantee will cost the same (or even better as GB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; are really expensive when renting) thing for a single &quot;rent&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - server for packagers, to host VMs used to test package builds. This
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; needs to be a fast server, with a lot of RAM. Should we buy an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; expensive server for this now ? Or wait until we have more money, or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; someone donate a server for this ? Or rent a server at 60 euros /
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; month on online.net ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; A guy from the community offer to rent
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-classic.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-classic.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Can it suit packagers need (local build machine)?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If not enough for packagers build test machine, we know that we will have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this &quot;dedibox&quot; available for something else!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If no need, we will put the 35&#8364; per month on a other expense.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We need a server for packagers. But preferably something fast as multiple
+</I>&gt;<i> people will be building packages at the same time. So the server at 60
+</I>&gt;<i> euros per month would be better. Or we can buy a dell server with
+</I>&gt;<i> 12 cores, 32GB for 2200 euros :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf">http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf</A>
+</I>
+i think for buildnode we'll indeed want something good, but if we can't do
+multiple builds/node than 12cores is overkill imho.
+
+otoh, if there is a blade enclosure with space left, we could buy a blade (or
+2) for that price?
+
+at the same time, i still think that a separate backup server is not required,
+i think perhaps if someone has a fast and unlimited internet connection, i'd
+be easier to put a small nas into someone's house that can take backups.
+
+Ok, there is no onsite backup, but that's not really required in our case, is
+it?
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+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We need a server for packagers. But preferably something fast as multiple
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; people will be building packages at the same time. So the server at 60
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; euros per month would be better. Or we can buy a dell server with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 12 cores, 32GB for 2200 euros :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf">http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i think for buildnode we'll indeed want something good, but if we can't do
+</I>&gt;<i> multiple builds/node than 12cores is overkill imho.
+</I>
+That's not for a build node, we already have build nodes. That's for a
+server where packagers can login and start VMs, to test package builds
+(like it was possible at mandriva). That could maybe also be used by QA.
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+&gt;<i> Le 02/10/2011 21:26, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; nicolas vigier skrev 1.10.2011 20:24:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But one thing... How much rack space do we have available ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It remains 7U IIRC.
+</I>
+That mean we use 35 U for PLF ( 3 servers + scsi array and switch and
+space for the mips buildhost ) + lea linux ( 1 server, like 2U, not sure
+) + 4 mageia servers.
+
+If we take 1 or 2 U to place the arm board ( depending on the
+configuration we use to place it ), that let us between 5 or 6 U, and I
+am not sure they are contiguous ( in fact, I am quite sure they aren't
+).
+
+Since I doubt that a server with lots of disk would be just 1 U, I think
+this warrant looking more closely at the picture that we took for that
+very precise reason.
+
+We also need to take in account the number of power outlet used ( iirc,
+we were already quite short last time, especially if we have redundant
+alimentation ), and maybe the ethernet cable/connexion ( but I think our
+switch is rather free, so that's ok ).
+
+And also, there is only 4 ip addresses left for us by Lost Oasis
+( unless we can ask for more, but I am not sure ), so 1 for fiona, 1 for
+arm board, and 1 for the build server.
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, 03 Oct 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; We need a server for packagers. But preferably something fast as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; multiple people will be building packages at the same time. So the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; server at 60 euros per month would be better. Or we can buy a dell
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; server with 12 cores, 32GB for 2200 euros :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf">http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i think for buildnode we'll indeed want something good, but if we can't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; do multiple builds/node than 12cores is overkill imho.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's not for a build node, we already have build nodes. That's for a
+</I>&gt;<i> server where packagers can login and start VMs, to test package builds
+</I>&gt;<i> (like it was possible at mandriva). That could maybe also be used by QA.
+</I>
+oic...
+
+maybe it could be helpful, or maybe this isn't &quot;required&quot;, people have virtual
+machines and the likes?
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+<PRE>ma, 2011-10-03 kello 19:28 +0200, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Op maandag 03 oktober 2011 17:00:09 schreef nicolas vigier:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Mon, 03 Oct 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; We need a server for packagers. But preferably something fast as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; multiple people will be building packages at the same time. So the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; server at 60 euros per month would be better. Or we can buy a dell
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; server with 12 cores, 32GB for 2200 euros :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf">http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; i think for buildnode we'll indeed want something good, but if we can't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; do multiple builds/node than 12cores is overkill imho.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That's not for a build node, we already have build nodes. That's for a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; server where packagers can login and start VMs, to test package builds
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (like it was possible at mandriva). That could maybe also be used by QA.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> oic...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe it could be helpful, or maybe this isn't &quot;required&quot;, people have virtual
+</I>&gt;<i> machines and the likes?
+</I>
+There's also people, like me, who only have ancient machines with
+limited CPU power and who doesn't like to build big packages with these
+machines (unless there's no other choice) as it takes forever to
+complete.
+
+So +1 for &quot;build node for packagers&quot;.
+
+--
+Jani V&#228;limaa
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+<PRE>nicolas vigier skrev 3.10.2011 17:11:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 03 Oct 2011, Damien Lallement wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 01/10/2011 19:24, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Here is a summary of all hardware that we should buy for next trip to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Marseille datacenter.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - new disk to replace failing disks on ecosse and on valstar, and 2 new
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> disks for build nodes (raid1 for system fs, raid0 for build filesystem
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for improved performances), and a disk for the ARM board :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2TB (valstar) + 1TB * 4 =&gt; 169.99 + 4 * 84.99 = 509.95 euros
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> WD RE4 drives are more expensive than Caviar Black, but seems to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> better if we want less disk failures.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Remember that WD Caviar Black are guaranteed for 5 years. I will send them
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> back to WD. So we will have new Caviar Black for spare.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - backup server : we need a server with a lot of disk space, to save
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> data from other servers. Fast CPU or a lot of ram is not needed on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dams suggested buying this server :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&amp;c=fr&amp;l=fr&amp;s=bsd&amp;cs=frbsdt1&amp;model_id=poweredge-r415">http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&amp;c=fr&amp;l=fr&amp;s=bsd&amp;cs=frbsdt1&amp;model_id=poweredge-r415</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 899 euros
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> adding :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Redundant power supply (132 euros)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * 4 * 1TB disks (4 * 332 euros)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Total: 2 261 euros
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So total is quite expensive. An other solution could be to buy a cheap
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> computer that one of us keep at home/office, doing remote backups. Or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> maybe we can find someone to donate a server, so that we only need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> buy disks for the server. Maybe we can ask for hardware donations for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this server on mageia-dev and/or blog ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Not expensive for my POV as is a new brand machine: if it fails in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> first years, no need to buy spare and go to Marseille! Renting a server for
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But can they replace the server in Marseille without us going there ? It
+</I>&gt;<i> seems difficult.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If we buy an old server at 200 euros, even if we need to replace it 3
+</I>&gt;<i> times, it would still be cheaper than 2000 euros.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+True, but lets not go out of our way to replicate the failing mdv BS.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> the same time than the guarantee will cost the same (or even better as GB
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> are really expensive when renting) thing for a single &quot;rent&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - server for packagers, to host VMs used to test package builds. This
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> needs to be a fast server, with a lot of RAM. Should we buy an
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> expensive server for this now ? Or wait until we have more money, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> someone donate a server for this ? Or rent a server at 60 euros /
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> month on online.net ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A guy from the community offer to rent
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-classic.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-classic.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can it suit packagers need (local build machine)?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If not enough for packagers build test machine, we know that we will have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this &quot;dedibox&quot; available for something else!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If no need, we will put the 35&#8364; per month on a other expense.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Does dedibox support Mageia on their servers ?
+
+
+&gt;<i> We need a server for packagers. But preferably something fast as multiple
+</I>&gt;<i> people will be building packages at the same time. So the server at 60
+</I>&gt;<i> euros per month would be better. Or we can buy a dell server with
+</I>&gt;<i> 12 cores, 32GB for 2200 euros :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf">http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf</A>
+</I>
+I only see one 250GB sata disk on that configuration.
+It would need more disk space than that, and raid1/0 or raid10
+
+
+--
+Thomas
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+&gt;<i> It seems to be done for every upload.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe because of stuff like language packages where new ones can be added ?
+</I>
+At least, we shouldn't touch the frozen installer of the already
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+&gt;<i> On 3 October 2011 03:07, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It seems to be done for every upload.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe because of stuff like language packages where new ones can be added ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At least, we shouldn't touch the frozen installer of the already
+</I>&gt;<i> released distros...
+</I>
+Indeed, I would disable the following actions on 1 (in
+puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/submit-upload.conf):
+
+ - unpack_release_notes
+ - unpack_gfxboot_theme
+ - unpack_meta_task
+ - unpack_installer_images
+ - unpack_installer_stage2
+ - unpack_installer_advertising
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+&gt;<i> yellow
+</I>&gt;<i> Statistics for Hobbit daemon
+</I>&gt;<i> Up since 19-Sep-2011 21:30:01 (0 days, 00:05:00)
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+It looks like someone has made puppet or similar restart hobbit (this seems to
+be the first time it happened). Is there a really good reason?
+
+I would prefer not to ingore yellows for hobbitd, but I also prefer not
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+
+I'd like to collect quick first-view advice about
+<A HREF="http://ietherpad.com/9aXB01IHPi">http://ietherpad.com/9aXB01IHPi</A> - we wrote this doc with bmahe after
+he proposed to help about the <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/contribute/#data">http://mageia.org/en/contribute/#data</A>
+role. He packaged BigTop for his own use in Mageia - see
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20110828/005096.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20110828/005096.html</A>
+and sounds like he would like to work on this. That would be cool
+because we don't have yet anyone that can focus on this topic and make
+it more attractive to a few others.
+
+There are a few things to square before doing that (logs cleanup,
+license, availability, how we collect/inject logs actually) and
+starting with just a few web server logs would be a small, good enough
+start.
+
+Thanks!
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>On Sat, 01 Oct 2011, nicolas vigier wrote:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - backup server : we need a server with a lot of disk space, to save
+</I>&gt;<i> data from other servers. Fast CPU or a lot of ram is not needed on
+</I>&gt;<i> this server.
+</I>
+For backup server, Nanar can provide a 1U Nec Server, with 2GB of RAM,
+and space for 3 SATA disks. If we put 3 * 3TB disks in raid 5 in this
+server, we can have 6TB of backups.
+
+I think 6TB should be enough for now.
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, 01 Oct 2011, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - backup server : we need a server with a lot of disk space, to save
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> data from other servers. Fast CPU or a lot of ram is not needed on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this server.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For backup server, Nanar can provide a 1U Nec Server, with 2GB of RAM,
+</I>&gt;<i> and space for 3 SATA disks. If we put 3 * 3TB disks in raid 5 in this
+</I>&gt;<i> server, we can have 6TB of backups.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think 6TB should be enough for now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yeah, and even 3 x 2TB would be enough for now AFAIK.
+
+Good, so we can save some money and spend it on a real build node instead.
+
+
+BTW, I was previewed a new Intel Server yesterday.
+
+it had 2 separate servers crammed into 1U server.
+
+both servers had dual socket and 4 x 2.5&quot; disks each :)
+and they share a redundant PSU setup ...
+
+(so pretty much what you can get as blade servers)
+
+I'm just waiting for more specs and price :)
+
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+&gt;<i> nicolas vigier skrev 5.10.2011 19:22:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, 01 Oct 2011, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - backup server : we need a server with a lot of disk space, to save
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> data from other servers. Fast CPU or a lot of ram is not needed on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For backup server, Nanar can provide a 1U Nec Server, with 2GB of RAM,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and space for 3 SATA disks. If we put 3 * 3TB disks in raid 5 in this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> server, we can have 6TB of backups.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think 6TB should be enough for now.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah, and even 3 x 2TB would be enough for now AFAIK.
+</I>
+Actually, maximum size for WD RE4 disks is 2TB.
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+
+&gt;<i> Packagers should list them, we will manage to copy when needed.
+</I>
+Going to be getting a new type of copy request shortly.
+
+As demonstrated by <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2977">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2977</A>
+where updating mencoder from the Core Release version to the
+Tainted Release version is failing, as the libtwolame package
+is not available to the Tainted Release repository.
+
+We are going to have to go through all of the packages in the
+Tainted Release repository, and every dependency that those
+packages have, that are not dependencies in the Core Release
+version, will have to be linked to Tainted Release.
+
+Note that these link requests will be requests to link
+ from Core Release to Tainted Release, not Tainted Release Updates.
+
+Can links be done to from Core Releaes to Tainted Release?
+
+I know the Release repositories are not supposed to change
+after release. The other option, would be to release a tainted
+update, for any package like mencoder where there are dependencies
+missing in tainted release.
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+
+&gt;<i> Packagers should list them, we will manage to copy when needed.
+</I>
+Going to be getting a new type of copy request shortly.
+
+As demonstrated by <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2977">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2977</A>
+where updating mencoder from the Core Release version to the
+Tainted Release version is failing, as the libtwolame package
+is not available to the Tainted Release repository.
+
+Arrgh. Please ignore the message for now. I'm still trying
+to figure out exactly what is going on with this one.
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:05:02 -0400, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Packagers should list them, we will manage to copy when needed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Going to be getting a new type of copy request shortly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As demonstrated by <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2977">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2977</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> where updating mencoder from the Core Release version to the
+</I>&gt;<i> Tainted Release version is failing, as the libtwolame package
+</I>&gt;<i> is not available to the Tainted Release repository.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Arrgh. Please ignore the message for now. I'm still trying
+</I>&gt;<i> to figure out exactly what is going on with this one.
+</I>
+What we need is the build system to do something like :
+Updates to tainted to search for requires in
+1) first tainted/updates
+2) then tainted/release
+3) then core/updates and release, nonfree/updates and release
+
+Similarly, for updates to nonfree it would be
+1) first nonfree/updates
+2) then nonfree/release
+3) then core/updates and release
+
+And updates to core
+1) first core/updates
+2) then core/release
+
+So in other words, we need a table to tell the build system where to look.
+With at least a 2-stage search, for efficiency.
+(which is apparently already more or less planned.)
+The above doesn't take into account i586/x86_64, or backports.
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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+<PRE>Le samedi 8 octobre 2011 23:08:42, David W. Hodgins a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:05:02 -0400, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Packagers should list them, we will manage to copy when needed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Going to be getting a new type of copy request shortly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As demonstrated by <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2977">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2977</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> where updating mencoder from the Core Release version to the
+</I>&gt;<i> Tainted Release version is failing, as the libtwolame package
+</I>&gt;<i> is not available to the Tainted Release repository.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We are going to have to go through all of the packages in the
+</I>&gt;<i> Tainted Release repository, and every dependency that those
+</I>&gt;<i> packages have, that are not dependencies in the Core Release
+</I>&gt;<i> version, will have to be linked to Tainted Release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note that these link requests will be requests to link
+</I>&gt;<i> from Core Release to Tainted Release, not Tainted Release Updates.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can links be done to from Core Releaes to Tainted Release?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know the Release repositories are not supposed to change
+</I>&gt;<i> after release. The other option, would be to release a tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> update, for any package like mencoder where there are dependencies
+</I>&gt;<i> missing in tainted release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think we must not touch the media regarding this issue which happens only
+when a user sets Tainted Release as an update media. While this may be a valid
+choice from them, this will be too painful to solve using the &quot;linking&quot;
+method, so the real answer is fixing bug #2317 so that MageiaUpdate is able to
+pull the needed dependencies.
+
+Samuel
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 9 octobre 2011 04:59:45, andre999 a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> David W. Hodgins a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:05:02 -0400, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Packagers should list them, we will manage to copy when needed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Going to be getting a new type of copy request shortly.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As demonstrated by <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2977">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2977</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; where updating mencoder from the Core Release version to the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Tainted Release version is failing, as the libtwolame package
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is not available to the Tainted Release repository.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Arrgh. Please ignore the message for now. I'm still trying
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to figure out exactly what is going on with this one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What we need is the build system to do something like :
+</I>&gt;<i> Updates to tainted to search for requires in
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) first tainted/updates
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) then tainted/release
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) then core/updates and release, nonfree/updates and release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Similarly, for updates to nonfree it would be
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) first nonfree/updates
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) then nonfree/release
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) then core/updates and release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And updates to core
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) first core/updates
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) then core/release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So in other words, we need a table to tell the build system where to look.
+</I>&gt;<i> With at least a 2-stage search, for efficiency.
+</I>&gt;<i> (which is apparently already more or less planned.)
+</I>&gt;<i> The above doesn't take into account i586/x86_64, or backports.
+</I>
+It's not related to the build system, and urpmi already does that (not exactly
+following your algorithm, but the dependency solving is working). The problem
+is only in MageiaUpdate.
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+<PRE>On 5 October 2011 18:22, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> - backup server : we need a server with a lot of disk space, to save
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; data from other servers. Fast CPU or a lot of ram is not needed on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; this server.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For backup server, Nanar can provide a 1U Nec Server, with 2GB of RAM,
+</I>&gt;<i> and space for 3 SATA disks. If we put 3 * 3TB disks in raid 5 in this
+</I>&gt;<i> server, we can have 6TB of backups.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think 6TB should be enough for now.
+</I>
+If it's possible, would you be happy with an IBM x346
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+I'm trying to create the ldap account that will be used by mediawiki.
+
+So I'm running this :
+ldapvi --host ldap.mageia.org -Z --tls allow -D &quot;uid=boklm,ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org&quot; -b ou=System Accounts,dc=mageia,dc=org
+
+And I add the following lines :
+add cn=mediawiki-alamut,ou=System Accounts,dc=mageia,dc=org
+objectClass: organizationalRole
+objectClass: simpleSecurityObject
+cn: mediawiki-alamut
+userPassword:ssha aBcor88zzZoOOzFFF
+
+But I have this error :
+ldap_add: Constraint violation (19)
+ additional info: Password fails quality checking policy
+
+I tried with many different passwords, with always the same error.
+
+In the ldap server logs I can see :
+Oct 10 19:20:52 valstar slapd[1982]: conn=3076671 op=7 ADD dn=&quot;cn=mediawiki-alamut,ou=System Accounts,dc=mageia,dc=org&quot;
+Oct 10 19:20:52 valstar slapd[1982]: conn=3076671 op=7 RESULT tag=105 err=19 text=Password fails quality checking policy
+
+Does anyone know what is wrong, or how to create this ldap account ?
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+<PRE>On Mon, 10 Oct 2011, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If it's possible, would you be happy with an IBM x346
+</I>&gt;<i> (quad Xeon&#160;@2.80GHz, 8Go DDR2, 200Gb/SCSI, 2U)?
+</I>
+I think we can find something to do with a server like this.
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+
+For the packages/qa tests server, a Dell R415 :
+<A HREF="http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers-2.pdf">http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers-2.pdf</A>
+ - 2 * AMD Opteron 4184, 6C, 2.8GHz, 6x512K L2/6M L3 Cache, 75W ACP, DDR3-1333MHz
+ - 32GB Memory for 2 CPUs, DDR3, 1333MHz (8x4GB Dual Ranked UDIMMs)
+ - Power Supply, Redundant, 500W
+ - 2 * 300GB, SAS 6Gbps, 2.5-in, 10K RPM Hybrid Hard Drive (Hot Plug) in 3.5-in Carrier
+ - iDRAC6 Express
+Total: 2716 euros
+
+For the backup server, Nanar can provide us a server, where we can have 3
+SATA disks. So we need to buy 3 * 2TB disks for this server :
+<A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html</A>
+Total: 494,97 euros
+
+And the other things that were agreed during last week meeting :
+
+- Freescale ARM board :
+ <A HREF="http://fr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Freescale-Semiconductor/MCIMX53-START/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMspbelMIdDJdKswmyqRD7aG">http://fr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Freescale-Semiconductor/MCIMX53-START/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMspbelMIdDJdKswmyqRD7aG</A>
+ 122,93 euros
+
+- 1 * 2TB disk, to replace failing disk on valstar :
+ <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html</A>
+ 164,99 euros
+
+- 4 * 1TB disk (1 for ARM board, 1 for jonund, 2 for ecosse) :
+ <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html</A>
+ Total: 327.96 euros
+
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm trying to create the ldap account that will be used by mediawiki.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I'm running this :
+</I>&gt;<i> ldapvi --host ldap.mageia.org -Z --tls allow -D &quot;uid=boklm,ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org&quot; -b ou=System Accounts,dc=mageia,dc=org
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And I add the following lines :
+</I>&gt;<i> add cn=mediawiki-alamut,ou=System Accounts,dc=mageia,dc=org
+</I>&gt;<i> objectClass: organizationalRole
+</I>&gt;<i> objectClass: simpleSecurityObject
+</I>&gt;<i> cn: mediawiki-alamut
+</I>&gt;<i> userPassword:ssha aBcor88zzZoOOzFFF
+</I>
+I did the same, but added more than simple alphanumeric char :
+userPassword: %er$fO9ooo
+
+( I used another password, I have added it to the same file as usual )
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+&gt;<i> Le lundi 10 octobre 2011 &#224; 19:31 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm trying to create the ldap account that will be used by mediawiki.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So I'm running this :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ldapvi --host ldap.mageia.org -Z --tls allow -D &quot;uid=boklm,ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org&quot; -b ou=System Accounts,dc=mageia,dc=org
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And I add the following lines :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; add cn=mediawiki-alamut,ou=System Accounts,dc=mageia,dc=org
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; objectClass: organizationalRole
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; objectClass: simpleSecurityObject
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cn: mediawiki-alamut
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; userPassword:ssha aBcor88zzZoOOzFFF
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did the same, but added more than simple alphanumeric char :
+</I>&gt;<i> userPassword: %er$fO9ooo
+</I>
+I thought I tried non-alphanumeric characters, but it seems not.
+
+Thanks.
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+Grand total of 3826,85. Go for it.
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, 10 Oct 2011, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le lundi 10 octobre 2011 &#224; 19:31 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I'm trying to create the ldap account that will be used by mediawiki.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; So I'm running this :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ldapvi --host ldap.mageia.org -Z --tls allow -D &quot;uid=boklm,ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org&quot; -b ou=System Accounts,dc=mageia,dc=org
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; And I add the following lines :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; add cn=mediawiki-alamut,ou=System Accounts,dc=mageia,dc=org
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; objectClass: organizationalRole
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; objectClass: simpleSecurityObject
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; cn: mediawiki-alamut
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; userPassword:ssha aBcor88zzZoOOzFFF
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I did the same, but added more than simple alphanumeric char :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; userPassword: %er$fO9ooo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I thought I tried non-alphanumeric characters, but it seems not.
+</I>
+We could likely change the requirement ( ie simplify it by trading
+complexity for lenght ) for the system account. Ie, decide that we would
+be ok with a 12 or 14 chars password, and nothing regarding complexity.
+
+This would ease our work while keeping a correct level of security.
+
+
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+in today's i18n meeting we finally decided who is going to have mail aliases.
+
+It was our decision to give mail aliases to the commiters since we already
+have an ldap group for them.
+
+Would you need any more informations from me?
+
+Thanks,
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+Oliver
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+<PRE>On Wed, 05 Oct 2011, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to collect quick first-view advice about
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://ietherpad.com/9aXB01IHPi">http://ietherpad.com/9aXB01IHPi</A> - we wrote this doc with bmahe after
+</I>&gt;<i> he proposed to help about the <A HREF="http://mageia.org/en/contribute/#data">http://mageia.org/en/contribute/#data</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> role. He packaged BigTop for his own use in Mageia - see
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20110828/005096.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20110828/005096.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> and sounds like he would like to work on this. That would be cool
+</I>&gt;<i> because we don't have yet anyone that can focus on this topic and make
+</I>&gt;<i> it more attractive to a few others.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are a few things to square before doing that (logs cleanup,
+</I>&gt;<i> license, availability, how we collect/inject logs actually) and
+</I>&gt;<i> starting with just a few web server logs would be a small, good enough
+</I>&gt;<i> start.
+</I>
+I don't understand exactly what is the question, or what is needed.
+
+Public data is already available and can be used.
+
+For anonymous http server logs, I think that would be possible, if
+correctly anonymised, after checking that it doesn't annoy people, if
+you provide the script to filter the logs.
+
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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 13 octobre 2011 &#224; 20:50 +0200, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in today's i18n meeting we finally decided who is going to have mail aliases.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It was our decision to give mail aliases to the commiters since we already
+</I>&gt;<i> have an ldap group for them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would you need any more informations from me?
+</I>
+No.
+
+Done with commit 2307, please wait some time ( like 30 minutes ) before
+testing.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+<PRE>Am Donnerstag, 13. Oktober 2011, 22:35:06 schrieb Michael Scherer:
+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 13 octobre 2011 &#224; 20:50 +0200, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Done with commit 2307, please wait some time ( like 30 minutes ) before
+</I>&gt;<i> testing.
+</I>
+Thanks. I will have someone test, since I already have an alias for some time.
+
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+<PRE>hi,
+
+perl-MooseX-Types-Structured is rejected on buildsystem due to a youri
+check:
+
+ - unexpanded-macro %description -l C %TypeParameters
+
+however, the percent sign has been escaped: %TypeParameters in %desc has
+been written as %%TypeParameters
+
+==&gt; what am i doing wrong? or is the check broken?
+
+thanks,
+j&#233;r&#244;me
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+<PRE>Am Donnerstag, 13. Oktober 2011, 22:41:03 schrieb Oliver Burger:
+&gt;<i> Am Donnerstag, 13. Oktober 2011, 22:35:06 schrieb Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le jeudi 13 octobre 2011 &#224; 20:50 +0200, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Done with commit 2307, please wait some time ( like 30 minutes ) before
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; testing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks. I will have someone test, since I already have an alias for some
+</I>&gt;<i> time.
+</I>It's working, thanks!
+
+Oliver
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+&gt;<i> yellow Fri Oct 14 17:52:49 CEST 2011 - Filesystems NOT ok
+</I>&gt;<i> &amp;yellow / (90% used) has reached the WARNING level (90%)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda1 12396968 10473172 1294052 90% /
+</I>
+After checking what is using space on /, I saw :
+
+/var/log/httpd : 4.7G
+/var/lib/sympa : 3G (mainly for ML archives)
+
+We have 763G free on lvm. So I think we can create the following volumes :
+
+httpd_logs : 10G
+sympa : 16G (to have space for ML archives for next two years)
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+ <B>Jerome Quelin</B>
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+<PRE>On 11/10/14 13:01 +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote:
+&gt;<i> perl-MooseX-Types-Structured is rejected on buildsystem due to a youri
+</I>&gt;<i> check:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - unexpanded-macro %description -l C %TypeParameters
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> however, the percent sign has been escaped: %TypeParameters in %desc has
+</I>&gt;<i> been written as %%TypeParameters
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ==&gt; what am i doing wrong? or is the check broken?
+</I>
+ping?
+j&#233;r&#244;me
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 20 octobre 2011 10:16:12 Jerome Quelin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 11/10/14 13:01 +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; perl-MooseX-Types-Structured is rejected on buildsystem due to a youri
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; check:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - unexpanded-macro %description -l C %TypeParameters
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; however, the percent sign has been escaped: %TypeParameters in %desc has
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; been written as %%TypeParameters
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ==&gt; what am i doing wrong? or is the check broken?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ping?
+</I>&gt;<i> j&#233;r&#244;me
+</I>If i'm not not wrong you need to add a exception for it on rpmlint rules.
+
+Regards,
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+&gt;<i> On 11/10/14 13:01 +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> perl-MooseX-Types-Structured is rejected on buildsystem due to a youri
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> check:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- unexpanded-macro %description -l C %TypeParameters
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> however, the percent sign has been escaped: %TypeParameters in %desc has
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> been written as %%TypeParameters
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ==&gt; what am i doing wrong? or is the check broken?
+</I>
+this is the only one you have this way ? we can add an exception of it
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+&gt;<i> this is the only one you have this way ? we can add an exception of it
+</I>
+i got some others, but i trimmed the description to remvoe the %. but in
+this case, i cannot do it this way. so only this one for now.
+
+but shouldn't the check do the right thing, and allow %%?
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+j&#233;r&#244;me
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+<PRE>On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 11:13, Jerome Quelin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">jquelin at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 11/10/20 11:44 +0200, D.Morgan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this is the only one you have this way ? &#160;we can add an exception of it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i got some others, but i trimmed the description to remvoe the %. but in
+</I>&gt;<i> this case, i cannot do it this way. so only this one for now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but shouldn't the check do the right thing, and allow %%?
+</I>
+The check runs on produced rpm and has no way to know if it was
+expanded %%foo or unexpanded %foo.
+That's why I really don't like that it's blocking.
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+This is not the first time I'm seeing this
+
+Sometimes iurt failed to copry .rpmmacros. Maybe because it raced for
+/home/builder creation?????
+or b/c /tmp/rpmmacros sometimes isn't created?
+
+In such cases, shouldn't iurt try again?
+
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20111018173118.tv.valstar.32743/log/botcmd.1318959122.jonund.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20111018173118.tv.valstar.32743/log/botcmd.1318959122.jonund.log</A>
+
+D: [iurt_root_command] Success!
+D: [iurt_root_command] Running iurt_root_command
+D: [iurt_root_command] Copying files
+F: [iurt_root_command] copying /tmp/rpmmacros to
+/home/iurt/chroot_tmp/iurt/chroot_cauldron.x86_64.0.20111018173202/home/builder/.rpmmacros
+failed (No such file or directory)
+D: [iurt_root_command] nothing copied
+I: [iurt_root_command] ERROR: Copying files
+I: [iurt2] [iurt2] ERROR: could not write
+/home/iurt/chroot_tmp/iurt/chroot_cauldron.x86_64.0.20111018173202/home/builder/.rpmmacros
+(No such file or directory)
+E: [iurt2] [iurt2] Failed to dump macros
+D: [iurt2] [iurt2] clean chroot
+I: [iurt2] [iurt2] reprocess generated packages queue
+D: [iurt2] [iurt2] clean remaining unionfs
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is not the first time I'm seeing this
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sometimes iurt failed to copry .rpmmacros. Maybe because it raced for
+</I>&gt;<i> /home/builder creation?????
+</I>
+I would guess that the chroot got deleted
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 18:01, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 17:39, Thierry Vignaud
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is not the first time I'm seeing this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sometimes iurt failed to copry .rpmmacros. Maybe because it raced for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /home/builder creation?????
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would guess that the chroot got deleted
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hmm actually /home/iurt/chroot_tmp/iurt/chroot_cauldron.x86_64.0.20111018173202/home/builder/
+still exists on jonund...
+
+I noticed something strange (but unrelated):
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at jonund</A> ~]# ll
+/home/iurt/chroot_tmp/iurt/chroot_cauldron.x86_64.0.20111018173202/home/builder/
+-ad
+drwxr-xr-x 4 messagebus mageia 4096 2011-10-17 08:21
+/home/iurt/chroot_tmp/iurt/chroot_cauldron.x86_64.0.20111018173202/home/builder//
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at jonund</A> ~]# id messagebus
+uid=499(messagebus) gid=499(messagebus) groups=499(messagebus)
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at jonund</A> ~]# grep x:499
+/home/iurt/chroot_tmp/iurt/chroot_cauldron.x86_64.0.20111018173202/etc/passwd
+rpm:x:499:498:system user for rpm:/var/lib/rpm:/bin/false
+builder:x:499:500::/home/builder:/bin/bash
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+Two users have same uid in the chroot
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 20 octobre 2011 &#224; 11:18 +0100, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 11:13, Jerome Quelin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">jquelin at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 11/10/20 11:44 +0200, D.Morgan wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; this is the only one you have this way ? we can add an exception of it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i got some others, but i trimmed the description to remvoe the %. but in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this case, i cannot do it this way. so only this one for now.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but shouldn't the check do the right thing, and allow %%?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The check runs on produced rpm and has no way to know if it was
+</I>&gt;<i> expanded %%foo or unexpanded %foo.
+</I>&gt;<i> That's why I really don't like that it's blocking.
+</I>
+Given that it broke the bs several tie due to thing not blocked,
+everything that would be done would make someone unhappy. SO I prefer to
+have 2 person unahppy than everybody.
+
+I will see later to add the exception.
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+Every time there is a kernel update, not all of the i586
+rpm packages get built.
+
+Currently, in Mageia 1 Core Updates Testing for 2.6.38.8-6.1
+the packages built include ...
+
+kernel-desktop-2.6.38.8-6.1.mga
+kernel-desktop-devel-2.6.38.8-6.1.mga
+kernel-desktop-devel-latest
+kernel-desktop-latest
+
+kernel-desktop586-2.6.38.8-6.1.mga
+kernel-desktop586-devel-2.6.38.8-6.1.mga
+kernel-desktop586-devel-latest
+kernel-desktop586-latest
+
+kernel-doc
+
+kernel-netbook-2.6.38.8-6.1.mga
+kernel-netbook-devel-2.6.38.8-6.1.mga
+kernel-netbook-devel-latest
+kernel-netbook-latest
+
+kernel-server-2.6.38.8-6.1.mga
+
+kernel-source-2.6.38.8-6.1.mga
+
+The following packages are missing ...
+
+kernel-server-devel-2.6.38.8-6.1.mga
+kernel-server-devel-latest
+kernel-server-latest
+
+kernel-xen-pvops-2.6.38.8-6.1.mga
+kernel-xen-pvops-devel-2.6.38.8-6.1.mga
+kernel-xen-pvops-devel-latest
+kernel-xen-pvops-latest
+
+Why does this type of problem happen with
+every kernel update?
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Every time there is a kernel update, not all of the i586
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm packages get built.
+</I>
+They all do, the end of the list does not get uploaded
+
+&gt;<i> Why does this type of problem happen with
+</I>&gt;<i> every kernel update?
+</I>
+I guess they take too long to be copied and something times out but I
+could not find what, or maybe there is a race condition which does not
+happen with packages which can be uploaded quicker
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 09:41, David W. Hodgins&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">davidwhodgins at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Every time there is a kernel update, not all of the i586
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpm packages get built.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> They all do, the end of the list does not get uploaded
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why does this type of problem happen with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> every kernel update?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess they take too long to be copied and something times out but I
+</I>&gt;<i> could not find what, or maybe there is a race condition which does not
+</I>&gt;<i> happen with packages which can be uploaded quicker
+</I>
+
+Can we work around it by not allowing both arches of the kernel to be
+built on the same buildhost ? IIRC that's when this is happening...
+
+
+As for the current kernel in updates testing it's no big problem,
+as it's not the final one for QA. I will push a new set this weekend,
+and make sure all rpms gets on the mirror.
+
+--
+Thomas
+
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+&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan skrev 21.10.2011 12:01:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 09:41, David W. Hodgins&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">davidwhodgins at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Every time there is a kernel update, not all of the i586
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpm packages get built.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> They all do, the end of the list does not get uploaded
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Why does this type of problem happen with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> every kernel update?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I guess they take too long to be copied and something times out but I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> could not find what, or maybe there is a race condition which does not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> happen with packages which can be uploaded quicker
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can we work around it by not allowing both arches of the kernel to be built
+</I>&gt;<i> on the same buildhost ? IIRC that's when this is happening...
+</I>
+Ah then I think i know what happens. The first packages from the other
+arch probably get collected when the first arch is finished, and then
+because there are binaries from both arches it proceeds to upload.
+I'll have a look.
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Initscripts%20-%20Migrating%20to%20git%20and%20regenerating%0A%20mdkconf.patch%20and%20further%20Mageia%20tweaks.&In-Reply-To=%3C4EA13C4F.5050802%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"
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+
+Just to try and keep our initscripts package vaguely manageable, I've
+been playing with git repositories.
+
+The upstream RedHat sources are managed in git[1] and thus it should be
+easier to migrate our patches when new versions come out.
+
+In order to get some sense of what we, Mageia, have changed from the mdv
+version we imported, I first imported the Mandriva SVN repository into
+git via git-svn[2]
+
+Using that git repository, I was able to find two specific commits
+relating to the 9.21 version that we are currently using. These two
+revisions related to the upstream 9.21 vendor branch drop into the mdv svn:
+
+commit a108114a04f1b3b7878af695565b349c8f340d96
+Author: bor &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">bor at 99302b65-d5f7-0310-b3dd-f8cd6f4e3d94</A>&gt;
+Date: Sat Nov 27 17:19:55 2010 +0000
+
+ Load initscripts-9.21 into initscripts/branches/RedHat.
+
+
+and the merge of said initscripts into the Mandriva modified branch:
+
+commit 16def7de45bfe471abb646142f6ce35cf1d0b2f0
+Author: bor &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">bor at 99302b65-d5f7-0310-b3dd-f8cd6f4e3d94</A>&gt;
+Date: Sat Nov 27 18:57:54 2010 +0000
+
+ merge in initscripts-9.21
+
+ git-svn-id:
+<A HREF="http://svn.mandriva.com/svn/soft/initscripts/trunk@271362">http://svn.mandriva.com/svn/soft/initscripts/trunk@271362</A>
+99302b65-d5f7-0310-b3dd-f8cd6f4e3d94
+
+
+
+
+In theory, the differences between these two commits is what should make
+up the &quot;initscripts-mdvconf.patch&quot; (the monster patch that adds all of
+Mandriva's modifications).
+
+So by creating a new branch (mga-9.21-patch-drop) of of the first commit
+(a108114) and applying our current version of the
+initscripts-mdvconf.patch (with some manual tweaks due to the
+replacement of the po folder with a symlink which &quot;patch&quot; didn't really
+like working with), I ended up with:
+
+commit c2d4ed5e9c953f4a6da28d772532c60c8c910fe2
+Author: Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">colin at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Date: Mon Oct 17 20:57:16 2011 +0100
+
+ Apply Mageia initscripts patch.
+
+
+
+I could then compare (git diff 16def7..c2d4ed) the two versions. Apart
+from the massive ChangeLog present in the mdv branch, the differences
+were actually quite small, so I extracted these separately to a
+temporary patch which I kept for later.
+
+
+
+
+Then, I took, a fresh clone of the upstream fedora initscripts git
+repository (which I've ultimately pushed to [3]). From now on any
+references and sha1 will refer to this repository (the svn imported one
+is no longer used).
+
+I then created a branch from the upstream 9.25 commit:
+
+
+commit 4688ea25c9a5a87e48f89fc91a3c93a7c8c95b4a
+Author: Bill Nottingham &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">notting at redhat.com</A>&gt;
+Date: Fri Feb 25 15:15:29 2011 -0500
+
+ Update to 9.25-1
+
+
+and applied the current version of the initscripts-mdkconf.patch from
+Mandriva's SVN repository which had been updated to initscripts 9.25.
+
+I saved this to a new branch called mga-9.21-mdkconf which resulted in:
+
+commit be75c98a06d569fbaa2d86f92676af961795d094
+Author: Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">colin at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Date: Fri Oct 21 01:28:48 2011 +0100
+
+ Add the mdkconf patch
+
+
+
+
+I then created a new branch from this called mga-9.25-branding and
+reapplied the small differences we'd made to the 9.21 version of the
+mdkconf patch which I saved above. I made a couple extra further changes
+on top of that:
+
+commit 29aae08c5860326975c91834ee9aa9560b4ef7da
+Author: Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">colin at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Date: Mon Oct 17 21:38:04 2011 +0100
+
+ Apply Mageia branding patch
+
+commit 43858a6b877a6ca5e947dda16ffc11351c3a811f
+Author: Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">colin at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Date: Mon Oct 17 21:41:32 2011 +0100
+
+ A few more Mageia branding changes.
+
+
+
+
+Then I created yet another branch called mga-9.25-patches, and applied
+any additional patches from the current SPEC file that were not yet applied.
+
+This resulted in the followed commits:
+
+
+commit 27994d6d04def1cb1ec9e0cc591e397eede74373
+Author: Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">colin at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Date: Mon Oct 17 21:45:41 2011 +0100
+
+ Remove trailing slash in TMP/TMPDIR.
+
+ When building gcc/ecj1, TMP/TMPDIR is used and this results in debugedit
+ being unhappy.
+
+ (patch originally from svn: 77112 rtp - Remove trailing whitespace
+at the end of TMPDIR/TMP)
+
+commit 0068234306f56d9c339a0f3c395516d04635cfb8
+Author: anssi &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">anssi at 99302b65-d5f7-0310-b3dd-f8cd6f4e3d94</A>&gt;
+Date: Sun Apr 17 11:31:24 2011 +0000
+
+ rc.sysinit: Do not use speedboot if display_driver_helper says so
+(reasons include queued dkms update later in the boot or a conflicting
+driver loaded by initrd, in which case the user is asked to reboot by
+harddrake later). This has no effect under systemd.
+
+ git-svn-id:
+svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mandriva.com/svn/soft/initscripts/trunk@272301">ssh://svn.mandriva.com/svn/soft/initscripts/trunk@272301</A>
+99302b65-d5f7-0310-b3dd-f8cd6f4e3d94
+
+commit d6df24da00ad9283e26b0ae7bda65c00f4f750cd
+Author: Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Date: Mon Oct 17 21:54:48 2011 +0100
+
+ Replace LANG with LC_ALL
+
+ <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1216">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1216</A>
+
+commit 448ff89ce545b3ad6ceb83c99fa2f0037b9b97db
+Author: Jari &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">lihamakaroonilaatikko at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Date: Mon May 23 11:44:05 2011 +0000
+
+ Fix password prompt for encrypted partitions
+
+ Bug #1290
+
+commit 5d2b37c21bd6e674969b5b0fa742fb175dde7499
+Author: Jari &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">lihamakaroonilaatikko at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Date: Mon May 23 11:46:51 2011 +0000
+
+ Limit the number of tries to unlock
+
+ Bug #1290
+
+commit d34d3fe37f4f2702bf1c58c94704c8a061681010
+Author: Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt;
+Date: Sat May 28 13:52:38 2011 +0200
+
+ run chvt with --userwait option at shutdown to avoid hanging waiting
+for chvt 1, since dm stop might have triggered a vt change as well
+details from vuntz on
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540482#c115">https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540482#c115</A> (happens on my
+laptop with Mobility Radeon 9600 M10, plymouth disabled)
+
+
+
+
+So with these three branches in place I was able to do the following:
+
+
+$ git diff initscripts-9.25-1..mga-9.25-mdkconf &gt;initscripts-mdkconf.patch
+
+This regenerated a suitable monster patch.
+
+$ git format-patch --start-number 100 mga-9.25-mdkconf..mga-9.25-branding
+
+This resulted in the following patches:
+
+0100-Apply-Mageia-branding-patch.patch
+0101-A-few-more-Mageia-branding-changes.patch
+
+and finally:
+
+$ git format-patch --start-number 200 mga-9.25-branding..mga-9.25-patches
+
+which resulted in the following patches:
+
+0200-Remove-trailing-slash-in-TMP-TMPDIR.patch
+0201-rc.sysinit-Do-not-use-speedboot-if-display_driver_he.patch
+0202-Replace-LANG-with-LC_ALL.patch
+0203-Fix-password-prompt-for-encrypted-partitions.patch
+0204-Limit-the-number-of-tries-to-unlock.patch
+0205-run-chvt-with-userwait-option-at-shutdown-to-avoid-h.patch
+
+
+
+
+These files then made up the new initscripts spec file (not yet
+committed to svn).
+
+
+
+Phew! Just wanted to document the process to make sure I've not done
+anything dumb/stupid. We can of course roll up all the small patches,
+branding, etc. into the mdkconf branch and just generate one monster
+patch in the future, but I wanted to have clear separation at least
+initially.
+
+If people want to double check this work, it would be much appreciated.
+
+
+Hope that's all clear.
+
+
+Col
+
+
+1. <A HREF="git://git.fedorahosted.org/initscripts.git">git://git.fedorahosted.org/initscripts.git</A>
+2. <A HREF="git://git.mageia.org/initscripts-mdv">git://git.mageia.org/initscripts-mdv</A>
+3. <A HREF="git://git.mageia.org/initscripts">git://git.mageia.org/initscripts</A>
+
+I recommend adding the following to your ~/.gitconfig:
+
+
+[url &quot;<A HREF="git://git.mageia.org/">git://git.mageia.org/</A>&quot;]
+ insteadof = mga:
+[url &quot;<A HREF="ssh://git.mageia.org/git/">ssh://git.mageia.org/git/</A>&quot;]
+ pushInsteadof = mga:
+
+
+This way you can do: &quot;git clone mga:initscripts&quot; or &quot;git clone
+mga:initscripts-mdv&quot;. Cloning will use the (lower overhead) git
+protocol, whereas push will use SSH (provided you have SSH commit rights
+of course).
+
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
+</PRE>
+
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.">mageia at colin.guthr.ie
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+ <I>Fri Oct 21 11:41:24 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 21/10/11 10:33 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just to try and keep our initscripts package vaguely manageable, I've
+</I>&gt;<i> been playing with git repositories.
+</I>
+...snip...
+
+&gt;<i> 1. <A HREF="git://git.fedorahosted.org/initscripts.git">git://git.fedorahosted.org/initscripts.git</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. <A HREF="git://git.mageia.org/initscripts-mdv">git://git.mageia.org/initscripts-mdv</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. <A HREF="git://git.mageia.org/initscripts">git://git.mageia.org/initscripts</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I recommend adding the following to your ~/.gitconfig:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [url &quot;<A HREF="git://git.mageia.org/">git://git.mageia.org/</A>&quot;]
+</I>&gt;<i> insteadof = mga:
+</I>&gt;<i> [url &quot;<A HREF="ssh://git.mageia.org/git/">ssh://git.mageia.org/git/</A>&quot;]
+</I>&gt;<i> pushInsteadof = mga:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This way you can do: &quot;git clone mga:initscripts&quot; or &quot;git clone
+</I>&gt;<i> mga:initscripts-mdv&quot;. Cloning will use the (lower overhead) git
+</I>&gt;<i> protocol, whereas push will use SSH (provided you have SSH commit rights
+</I>&gt;<i> of course).
+</I>
+
+Just a small followup for sysadmin team.
+
+At first I didn't appreciate that there was an existing git repository.
+I tried cloneing via <A HREF="git://">git://</A> and I got an empty repo so this was a
+natural assumption.
+
+However, as I needed to push, I switched to <A HREF="ssh://">ssh://</A> access. Much to my
+surprise, this resulted in a fairly full repository!
+
+I narrowed this down to:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at valstar</A> ~]# ll /git/initscripts/{packed-refs,objects/pack/}
+-rw-r----- 1 root mga-packagers-committers 43413 2011-05-23 12:28
+/git/initscripts/packed-refs
+total 14244
+-r--r----- 1 root mga-packagers-committers 717508 2011-05-23 12:28
+pack-71c1b5b73ef330fa10feb095966fdf3e01960f9b.idx
+-r--r----- 1 root mga-packagers-committers 13862354 2011-05-23 12:29
+pack-71c1b5b73ef330fa10feb095966fdf3e01960f9b.pack
+
+
+i.e. no read permission on the packs.
+
+I did chmod a+r to these files and all was fixed.
+
+
+
+Now that there *was* a git repo here, I tried to work out where it came
+from. It seems it's originally from git.mandriva.com, but this seems to
+be no longer valid (or at least not listed on the web UI for mdv git).
+
+It also seems to have come from the fedora repo originally anyway.
+
+
+So I figured I could push on top of this OK without any --force, which I
+duely did.
+
+However, I somewhat stupidly used push --mirror, which ultimate deleted
+some of the branches we had :s
+
+Now I don't *think* any of those branches were ours anyway, but I'm
+somewhat paranoid I overwrote something important (of course git won't
+actually remove anything until a garbage collect so it's still currently
+recoverable I believe).
+
+
+Here is the full out put from my pushes.
+
+
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">colin at jimmy</A> initscripts (mga-9.25-patches)]$ git remote add mga
+mga:initscripts
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">colin at jimmy</A> initscripts (mga-9.25-patches)]$ git push mga master
+X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0
+Counting objects: 3220, done.
+Delta compression using up to 2 threads.
+Compressing objects: 100% (1025/1025), done.
+Writing objects: 100% (3074/3074), 4.51 MiB | 147 KiB/s, done.
+Total 3074 (delta 2236), reused 2818 (delta 2036)
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/master update
+b013d82305519d442857bd87de17a32e68cabd5f-&gt;05d7d8b6ee43103a589c8a999d5d96bdcd06f519
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+To <A HREF="ssh://git.mageia.org/git/initscripts">ssh://git.mageia.org/git/initscripts</A>
+ b013d82..05d7d8b master -&gt; master
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">colin at jimmy</A> initscripts (mga-9.25-patches)]$ git push --mirror mga
+X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0
+Counting objects: 2428, done.
+Delta compression using up to 2 threads.
+Compressing objects: 100% (1140/1140), done.
+Writing objects: 100% (2146/2146), 3.13 MiB | 216 KiB/s, done.
+Total 2146 (delta 1343), reused 1592 (delta 992)
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/F10-branch update
+210d0fb68b306c50a1e6a4a71cffb57519445d33-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/F11-branch update
+3831984c8f379000a851fa2a949a4eb7fdd21b2b-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/F7-branch update
+329556dcf89e0757d49160d9adbe40169571a5d2-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/F8-branch update
+c60ac9fb617a28d6b4a33150b75fbf3d24e05ae4-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/F9-branch update
+301dd44b3fadf1e97644ad462b1ee42043d2f5ef-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/FC3-branch update
+20e2d4679678cf377362de4a62edc8a8e38cf361-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/FC4-branch update
+431a471e479eb6dffc43a3bb785bf2711627fc95-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/FC5-branch update
+28a82ee5ae1f9111d19350a8d342c1fb1e3ed4e6-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/FC6-branch update
+aa8cd70238da8c40db7566e0916aa246bd37abc1-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/SEREL update
+8a26159ec668893c845d5dcbec48f509b2dacc6c-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/initscripts-3_0E-branch update
+a1d18e8bcb70eb2df53d690cb64138e60cdbb506-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/initscripts-3_0E-rhgb-branch update
+6fd5fcccc3aa5fdbdbcab8f7425f87d72ef1a3b4-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/initscripts-7_0-branch update
+475ece0115c304cb546dd789a68e1927498f1cf5-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/initscripts-7_1-branch update
+e61bc31e8fd37cce1b85aaccd08da8e65a4e377b-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/initscripts-7_2-branch update
+27465d15fbdad4142c15b0cd3fbe7de1cb4c9dbd-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/initscripts-7_3-branch update
+c222a1c2a46c42c12b5d898091962122375c9c42-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/initscripts-8_0-branch update
+826c2b5786a35ba669b9b3f508817c0b64ddc908-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/initscripts-9-branch update
+4630ba6b433cb9bbba55d6c942f104535f9c0e0b-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/initscripts-FC1-branch update
+516fdb9ffde8199d66212241b67956ae21b76bea-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/initscripts-FC2-branch update
+f3d2594413456574a0269813bdd351d6b0754924-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/origin update
+6b5d4bfa26c45eb4351aad41c66d2ab0907cb304-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/redhat update
+578f0bb804e9d26881b3aa2349ff418235d0931b-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/rhel4-branch update
+b491299da0d0418f0a20ea1d654cfbad50795676-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/rhel5-branch update
+d73f150be526ecdbb73ccee9427bff03858191fd-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/unstable update
+b5da33084c723b7a182d6724d9a8855a16c0b55d-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/upstart-0.5.0-branch update
+f6fcc6d15856ddd158c5f1956a839b71c02c9275-&gt;0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/mga-9.21-mdkconf update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;2f3bfc05b8fe3305adc49e987a5b6b3946a64c62
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/mga-9.25-branding update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;ee73ce60c117dec2dfd5a9d9715fc253f8267f20
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/mga-9.25-mdkconf update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;ee8a3eef2876b32b6a9cad86b79f1b3ceab53c36
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/mga-9.25-patches update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;8cd1bf5b9d072063c1e66b1acbc157dbb5796b50
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.mailinglist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/heads/mga-patch update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;352669881edb09794522df4517147cac27b099b6
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/foo/master
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/foo/mga-9.21-mdkconf
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/foo/mga-9.25-branding
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/foo/mga-9.25-mdkconf
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/foo/mga-9.25-patches
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/foo/mga-patch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/mga/master
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/F10-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/F11-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/F12-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/F13-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/F14-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/F15-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/F7-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/F8-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/F9-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/FC3-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/FC4-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/FC5-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/FC6-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/HEAD
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/SEREL
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/origin/initscripts-3_0E-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/origin/initscripts-3_0E-rhgb-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/origin/initscripts-7_0-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/origin/initscripts-7_1-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/origin/initscripts-7_2-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/origin/initscripts-7_3-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/origin/initscripts-8_0-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/origin/initscripts-9-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/origin/initscripts-FC1-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/origin/initscripts-FC2-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/master
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/origin
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/redhat
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/rhel4-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/rhel5-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/rhel6-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/origin/systemd-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/origin/unstable
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/origin/upstart-0.6.0-branch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/personal/master
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/personal/mga-9.21-mdkconf
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/personal/mga-9.25-branding
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/personal/mga-9.25-mdkconf
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch,
+refs/remotes/personal/mga-9.25-patches
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** Push-update of tracking branch, refs/remotes/personal/mga-patch
+remote: *** - no email generated.
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-7.93.35-1.el4 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;ce378ca0bfceee7259971c4f1fdce75193bdfb88
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-8.45.30-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;f603acd9c33388b68829868107c5ef6ef9ba14fe
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-8.45.31-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;de2c70db17abab7571fde5f262170ead581c14cc
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-8.45.32-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;0c4b1074b2c4d1f199d77d444dd79910417bdefb
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-8.45.33-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;28ee976d397c9a3bdb0ee717d69e4237e44e1d83
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-8.45.34-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;f2b2a5f36dd5c38b0c9225f17ea071b688e0783a
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-8.45.35-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;be4560ebcc550f3e0f5a26a0e871a405e6f93f3e
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-8.45.36-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;9345526732a1217052dbd46e78a7459284685bdf
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-8.45.37-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;bcd0ee6523f379355f72eb13059997ecbb32b2e8
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-8.45.38-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;8abff88cc528325119f51e0741530e2046d0b0a1
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-8.95.1-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;5d055662bb1081c01ef6a4a8f7e5584eae647a39
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-8.96-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;e0c21525020fc72418e3e7909c4fe0a2f43d5086
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-8.97-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;3df5791be64e294dd258a40848e4d0cdcb589bae
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-8.98-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;62f8083b83b77aff209d6fa99bfa799f29e6ead9
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-8.99-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;ce74992ae00955791bcf46bb78a160923a2fdddb
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.00-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;ee5cbf4496c8ad6cadce7a6912b550ca64ecb2f5
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.01-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;7fe2efc5f47e2fa1385e05a7c034eb6a43f51ca2
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.02-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;ca0e0cb5be7f4499bf51a7426efb72591dd7e6f7
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.02.1-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;b142c3c23821baff889ec117613264d9b6d9a3aa
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.02.2-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;c7865ce4c5f58ddae52f98cf6aedbbb58177aeaf
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;026d924d7ab767e45a22976b842cb9400bb6342f
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.1-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;d3e97b72155c4d065d79fd8bb8fe9096c47c8909
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.10-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;6fdb2eb7ce44894835a9a6627a70a134f9f6b604
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.11-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;2563230a26616e01151c058a9941b329b040a4e6
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.12-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;6852ba33655c790c60eaf3d986adc844018d82e1
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.13-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;99f7566ec88fc251068b238b862832b2bc89a2dd
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.14-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;845ddfe943c206c9911e9f3963bd3f07f287c594
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.15-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;1e990e8bb6137c9be599827ef9173c23adac6012
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.16-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;e3e35e55761a04da31113ac6dad3a0f66f60d54b
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.17-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;d7b8bcdcfeed0cf32864a0a1cf1dcd1ea788f13d
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.18-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;13cc26f29fd22315eafb29a5cd409395949c9d78
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.19-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;2b40c17c7a98d4b23e74a638c42f28912836159a
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.2-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;0f1b84fd63365175a2f55d7c37bcc297f5407d5a
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.20-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;57443bcf45694e55d05b5a3cf172f50a78f044b2
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.21-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;b997f9960e27d4a49b129c7f4b0effd6f5689fe9
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.22-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;f814dbfab8ba72489887fe28067df9d90310d04b
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.23-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;c41c0d15ae28f845436f2ce43642d6c016d2c4db
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.24-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;829b97e63b2ad2f865a48e21dd96198350627fcc
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.25-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;457d13bf2080ffd6617fb239292be532f3c04865
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.26-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;6012664b67c66dcd54a6c0b7828b1eb243aa4547
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.27-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;67efaf4ff3435be77cc651e8566e896eeb8dd7dc
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.3-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;15f4c37acc0a84a74e2ce1e6e78eff53b073f5b6
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.4-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;d6ca60a717a941f76517069f4f999746ecc143f3
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.5-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;7f76574f0a2e4b6af21f55ee144937778bef70be
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.6-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;2c1a7782422d38cab4dfbac219094e24f06f40f4
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.7-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;cb24e6d0cdae921dab1286daab0f0e0e13127a6a
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.7-1.1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;f307253a9911c78fa41b6c43d5fef4f3219d77b8
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.7-1.2 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;d89d65a15acb818ea4171dea4ea05ab63859e91a
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.8-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;b429ed114f86abf0fa069f8aadabf7a63487b120
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.03.9-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;66616251e3339e6cb5b3a14997e46208bc7e0a41
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.04-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;460cb7b58dd8761a1daa5e3f8a6ed22e75c91979
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.05-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;e46cb9cba57c4cf3619653c85e595fdc292aec7f
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.06-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;8f2e2011d0df643e7ff1cf0550fa4b635f577096
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.07-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;09deda37d9b3485593037e0c0548a101c44dc51b
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.08-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;d7dcbe0db34925d440d9c98f3d0c5034c3ebef43
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.09-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;e065814f37b602b8cf68871a9e723a0face10f68
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.10-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;7a9d6d1fd3b1c76cdec95f9b8e0bd94dc1c201e4
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.11-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;f4c40e5cd271db44ee3cce6ac33c8281c3aebb25
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.12-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;9590b37661feb94bda28ecd52f69a4e6a22cb8c0
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.12-1.1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;b883c50687b84d354a517f8fd73dcfb382c8debd
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.12-1.2 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;e34630601c50ab88f163af7802fb5ab1edc7e0c3
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.12.1-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;10929dc6e832a60c611e1918ead4f93349b2bde8
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.13-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;7911818b6f8fa417fb0e97825552c639fa3369e5
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.14-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;89daa960e557d8de31bc9fdd35ed2b3479fd0f84
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.15-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;5c141d8f46631561978f2875bc386f1233d20b7d
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.15-1.1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;f8534d57495b980362ceac6be81acff8e198b503
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.15.0.1.systemd-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;63aa56b367dfee944484897060fab4bad858843d
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.16-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;910aaf8747e3523c6cdc0ce840dec3e647a9e939
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.16.0.1.systemd-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;9972e43b38c3b16d37745aaed99b8fa777b8c021
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.16.0.2.systemd-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;d70dbcc70849745e419d2cd940b9d64ed39da54d
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.16.0.3.systemd-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;5aa91f199a417c68f8d3df73858a3b27d4fe0de5
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.16.0.4.systemd-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;fb11015d9eeb8dcb8a46bb76157a27da834ca61c
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.17-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;16783bfb86f1407d7e7f8bd71c1be5e12a9b744a
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.18-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;defb2f2e0b4957f8cd472c46ebc5198cdf32b169
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.19-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;f1a9a73edf34dbc79c13382e4a861fd7b50b5137
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.20-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;bba65128a39204d7c19515d448a6482aeb9f807e
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.20.1-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;59a61684387d3c86d135382e828ee0b3dadad902
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.20.2-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;1443c37c84322641f80d9b05054d0d881f380fc2
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.21-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;e98ee64ae97073374bfa18053ac41a60d3c4bd29
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.21.systemd-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;460d135a3ab814803781ede20381149d0f360762
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.22-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;331cf03313b84aea4c5e5edc8a93b3639db39239
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.23-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;5b501baac3f81caafd8124f8545ce593d6cfe723
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.24-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;596bbab0fc9145b2182477c98eff39c23dbbafbb
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.25-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;beee363c4afa41e473facb843a8606facb9d67b8
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.26-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;f8566249773177d5d317cd56e3b3a5dacb108552
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.27-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;8f934c781d6f2889ce924e96837ddc1086c30f45
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.28-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;6305c27f16d1babfcecbcad887c50d6bed059d58
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.29-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;973aeceef7b422c08160fd43ceb30c98d61086ab
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.30-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;e4a65c0900b9f5ca3e2f5f353aa92d11961372e4
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+remote: *** hooks.announcelist is not set so no email will be sent
+remote: *** for refs/tags/initscripts-9.31-1 update
+0000000000000000000000000000000000000000-&gt;44ccc90e15f1ce034d47ab367dbec39967036f70
+remote: sendmail: fatal: colin(5008): No recipient addresses found in
+message header
+To <A HREF="ssh://git.mageia.org/git/initscripts">ssh://git.mageia.org/git/initscripts</A>
+ - [deleted] F10-branch
+ - [deleted] F11-branch
+ - [deleted] F7-branch
+ - [deleted] F8-branch
+ - [deleted] F9-branch
+ - [deleted] FC3-branch
+ - [deleted] FC4-branch
+ - [deleted] FC5-branch
+ - [deleted] FC6-branch
+ - [deleted] SEREL
+ - [deleted] initscripts-3_0E-branch
+ - [deleted] initscripts-3_0E-rhgb-branch
+ - [deleted] initscripts-7_0-branch
+ - [deleted] initscripts-7_1-branch
+ - [deleted] initscripts-7_2-branch
+ - [deleted] initscripts-7_3-branch
+ - [deleted] initscripts-8_0-branch
+ - [deleted] initscripts-9-branch
+ - [deleted] initscripts-FC1-branch
+ - [deleted] initscripts-FC2-branch
+ - [deleted] origin
+ - [deleted] redhat
+ - [deleted] rhel4-branch
+ - [deleted] rhel5-branch
+ - [deleted] unstable
+ - [deleted] upstart-0.5.0-branch
+ * [new branch] mga-9.21-mdkconf -&gt; mga-9.21-mdkconf
+ * [new branch] mga-9.25-branding -&gt; mga-9.25-branding
+ * [new branch] mga-9.25-mdkconf -&gt; mga-9.25-mdkconf
+ * [new branch] mga-9.25-patches -&gt; mga-9.25-patches
+ * [new branch] mga-patch -&gt; mga-patch
+ * [new branch] foo/master -&gt; foo/master
+ * [new branch] foo/mga-9.21-mdkconf -&gt; foo/mga-9.21-mdkconf
+ * [new branch] foo/mga-9.25-branding -&gt; foo/mga-9.25-branding
+ * [new branch] foo/mga-9.25-mdkconf -&gt; foo/mga-9.25-mdkconf
+ * [new branch] foo/mga-9.25-patches -&gt; foo/mga-9.25-patches
+ * [new branch] foo/mga-patch -&gt; foo/mga-patch
+ * [new branch] mga/master -&gt; mga/master
+ * [new branch] origin/F10-branch -&gt; origin/F10-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/F11-branch -&gt; origin/F11-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/F12-branch -&gt; origin/F12-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/F13-branch -&gt; origin/F13-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/F14-branch -&gt; origin/F14-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/F15-branch -&gt; origin/F15-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/F7-branch -&gt; origin/F7-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/F8-branch -&gt; origin/F8-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/F9-branch -&gt; origin/F9-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/FC3-branch -&gt; origin/FC3-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/FC4-branch -&gt; origin/FC4-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/FC5-branch -&gt; origin/FC5-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/FC6-branch -&gt; origin/FC6-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/HEAD -&gt; origin/HEAD
+ * [new branch] origin/SEREL -&gt; origin/SEREL
+ * [new branch] origin/initscripts-3_0E-branch -&gt;
+origin/initscripts-3_0E-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/initscripts-3_0E-rhgb-branch -&gt;
+origin/initscripts-3_0E-rhgb-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/initscripts-7_0-branch -&gt;
+origin/initscripts-7_0-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/initscripts-7_1-branch -&gt;
+origin/initscripts-7_1-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/initscripts-7_2-branch -&gt;
+origin/initscripts-7_2-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/initscripts-7_3-branch -&gt;
+origin/initscripts-7_3-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/initscripts-8_0-branch -&gt;
+origin/initscripts-8_0-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/initscripts-9-branch -&gt;
+origin/initscripts-9-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/initscripts-FC1-branch -&gt;
+origin/initscripts-FC1-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/initscripts-FC2-branch -&gt;
+origin/initscripts-FC2-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/master -&gt; origin/master
+ * [new branch] origin/origin -&gt; origin/origin
+ * [new branch] origin/redhat -&gt; origin/redhat
+ * [new branch] origin/rhel4-branch -&gt; origin/rhel4-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/rhel5-branch -&gt; origin/rhel5-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/rhel6-branch -&gt; origin/rhel6-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/systemd-branch -&gt; origin/systemd-branch
+ * [new branch] origin/unstable -&gt; origin/unstable
+ * [new branch] origin/upstart-0.6.0-branch -&gt;
+origin/upstart-0.6.0-branch
+ * [new branch] personal/master -&gt; personal/master
+ * [new branch] personal/mga-9.21-mdkconf -&gt; personal/mga-9.21-mdkconf
+ * [new branch] personal/mga-9.25-branding -&gt;
+personal/mga-9.25-branding
+ * [new branch] personal/mga-9.25-mdkconf -&gt; personal/mga-9.25-mdkconf
+ * [new branch] personal/mga-9.25-patches -&gt; personal/mga-9.25-patches
+ * [new branch] personal/mga-patch -&gt; personal/mga-patch
+ * [new tag] initscripts-7.93.35-1.el4 -&gt; initscripts-7.93.35-1.el4
+ * [new tag] initscripts-8.45.30-1 -&gt; initscripts-8.45.30-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-8.45.31-1 -&gt; initscripts-8.45.31-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-8.45.32-1 -&gt; initscripts-8.45.32-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-8.45.33-1 -&gt; initscripts-8.45.33-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-8.45.34-1 -&gt; initscripts-8.45.34-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-8.45.35-1 -&gt; initscripts-8.45.35-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-8.45.36-1 -&gt; initscripts-8.45.36-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-8.45.37-1 -&gt; initscripts-8.45.37-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-8.45.38-1 -&gt; initscripts-8.45.38-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-8.95.1-1 -&gt; initscripts-8.95.1-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-8.96-1 -&gt; initscripts-8.96-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-8.97-1 -&gt; initscripts-8.97-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-8.98-1 -&gt; initscripts-8.98-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-8.99-1 -&gt; initscripts-8.99-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.00-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.00-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.01-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.01-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.02-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.02-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.02.1-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.02.1-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.02.2-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.02.2-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.1-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.1-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.10-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.10-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.11-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.11-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.12-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.12-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.13-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.13-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.14-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.14-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.15-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.15-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.16-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.16-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.17-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.17-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.18-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.18-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.19-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.19-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.2-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.2-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.20-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.20-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.21-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.21-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.22-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.22-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.23-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.23-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.24-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.24-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.25-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.25-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.26-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.26-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.27-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.27-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.3-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.3-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.4-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.4-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.5-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.5-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.6-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.6-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.7-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.7-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.7-1.1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.7-1.1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.7-1.2 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.7-1.2
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.8-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.8-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.03.9-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.03.9-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.04-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.04-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.05-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.05-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.06-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.06-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.07-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.07-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.08-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.08-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.09-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.09-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.10-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.10-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.11-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.11-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.12-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.12-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.12-1.1 -&gt; initscripts-9.12-1.1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.12-1.2 -&gt; initscripts-9.12-1.2
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.12.1-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.12.1-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.13-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.13-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.14-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.14-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.15-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.15-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.15-1.1 -&gt; initscripts-9.15-1.1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.15.0.1.systemd-1 -&gt;
+initscripts-9.15.0.1.systemd-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.16-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.16-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.16.0.1.systemd-1 -&gt;
+initscripts-9.16.0.1.systemd-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.16.0.2.systemd-1 -&gt;
+initscripts-9.16.0.2.systemd-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.16.0.3.systemd-1 -&gt;
+initscripts-9.16.0.3.systemd-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.16.0.4.systemd-1 -&gt;
+initscripts-9.16.0.4.systemd-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.17-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.17-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.18-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.18-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.19-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.19-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.20-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.20-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.20.1-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.20.1-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.20.2-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.20.2-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.21-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.21-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.21.systemd-1 -&gt;
+initscripts-9.21.systemd-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.22-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.22-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.23-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.23-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.24-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.24-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.25-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.25-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.26-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.26-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.27-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.27-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.28-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.28-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.29-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.29-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.30-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.30-1
+ * [new tag] initscripts-9.31-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.31-1
+
+
+
+
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+ <I>Fri Oct 21 11:47:36 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 21/10/11 10:41 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 21/10/11 10:33 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>
+&gt;<i> * [new branch] foo/master -&gt; foo/master
+</I>&gt;<i> * [new branch] foo/mga-9.21-mdkconf -&gt; foo/mga-9.21-mdkconf
+</I>&gt;<i> * [new branch] foo/mga-9.25-branding -&gt; foo/mga-9.25-branding
+</I>&gt;<i> * [new branch] foo/mga-9.25-mdkconf -&gt; foo/mga-9.25-mdkconf
+</I>&gt;<i> * [new branch] foo/mga-9.25-patches -&gt; foo/mga-9.25-patches
+</I>&gt;<i> * [new branch] foo/mga-patch -&gt; foo/mga-patch
+</I>&gt;<i> * [new branch] personal/master -&gt; personal/master
+</I>&gt;<i> * [new branch] personal/mga-9.21-mdkconf -&gt; personal/mga-9.21-mdkconf
+</I>&gt;<i> * [new branch] personal/mga-9.25-branding -&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> personal/mga-9.25-branding
+</I>&gt;<i> * [new branch] personal/mga-9.25-mdkconf -&gt; personal/mga-9.25-mdkconf
+</I>&gt;<i> * [new branch] personal/mga-9.25-patches -&gt; personal/mga-9.25-patches
+</I>&gt;<i> * [new branch] personal/mga-patch -&gt; personal/mga-patch
+</I>
+
+As a second followup, I realised that I had a couple of kinda useless
+remotes define and these got pushed up with --mirror..
+
+I've removed these branches from the mgarepo now.
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Initscripts%20-%20Migrating%20to%20git%20and%20regenerating%0A%20mdkconf.patch%20and%20further%20Mageia%20tweaks.&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEtaE1Ye_g7HNGRxNsDUGOMnh%2B9m86yQuUXZyG0PhsN7%2BhA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+ <I>Fri Oct 21 12:45:29 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 21 October 2011 11:41, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Now I don't *think* any of those branches were ours anyway, but I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> somewhat paranoid I overwrote something important (of course git won't
+</I>&gt;<i> actually remove anything until a garbage collect so it's still currently
+</I>&gt;<i> recoverable I believe).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is the full out put from my pushes.
+</I>
+Don't you think attaching a file rather than pasting 1000+ lines of log
+woud be more friendly to other people?
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Initscripts%20-%20Migrating%20to%20git%20and%20regenerating%0A%20mdkconf.patch%20and%20further%20Mageia%20tweaks.&In-Reply-To=%3C4EA16461.4020303%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"
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+ <I>Fri Oct 21 14:24:01 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 21/10/11 11:45 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 21 October 2011 11:41, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now I don't *think* any of those branches were ours anyway, but I'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> somewhat paranoid I overwrote something important (of course git won't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> actually remove anything until a garbage collect so it's still currently
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> recoverable I believe).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here is the full out put from my pushes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't you think attaching a file rather than pasting 1000+ lines of log
+</I>&gt;<i> woud be more friendly to other people?
+</I>
+It's only 700 lines not 1000+, and the mail would be the same size
+regardless (well bigger with the header overhead of the attachment), so
+I'm not sure why it's more considerate...
+
+Also if you want to refer/quote to specific parts of the push (as I did
+in my other reply) then including inline is better and more considerate.
+This is pretty much common practice for patch reviews etc (to allow
+inline quoting).
+
+So it really depends on different peoples' definition of $CONSIDERATE.
+
+Col
+
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Initscripts%20-%20Migrating%20to%20git%20and%20regenerating%0A%20mdkconf.patch%20and%20further%20Mageia%20tweaks.&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEtaPbfTLuM36VVVJ5bjgjoM4__G43eidfuZeYem8sYZb5A%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+ <I>Fri Oct 21 15:18:40 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 21 October 2011 14:24, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Don't you think attaching a file rather than pasting 1000+ lines of log
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> woud be more friendly to other people?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's only 700 lines not 1000+,
+</I>
+I don't know how you count but I count 1023 lines between first
+&quot;git remote add mga&quot; until last &quot;initscripts-9.31-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.31-1&quot;
+(for a grand total of 1122 lines)
+
+But even if it was 700, that would still be too big
+
+&gt;<i> and the mail would be the same size
+</I>&gt;<i> regardless (well bigger with the header overhead of the attachment), so
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure why it's more considerate...
+</I>
+Well there is: I'd to scroll down your 1000+ lines just to see if
+there was anything
+else after the logs...
+If it would have been a log file, I wound't have to.
+
+&gt;<i> Also if you want to refer/quote to specific parts of the push (as I did
+</I>&gt;<i> in my other reply) then including inline is better and more considerate.
+</I>&gt;<i> This is pretty much common practice for patch reviews etc (to allow
+</I>&gt;<i> inline quoting).
+</I>
+We don't speak about patch review but about repeteaed contents over
+1000+ lines.
+
+This is off topic BS.
+Of those 1000+ lines, 814 were the same sendmail message again &amp; again!
+What's the point of repeating it over 800+ lines?
+If someone was interesting in &quot;reviewing&quot; them, having 5 lines
+would have been enough.
+
+&gt;<i> So it really depends on different peoples' definition of $CONSIDERATE.
+</I>
+Come on...
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+<PRE>On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Thierry Vignaud
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 21 October 2011 14:24, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Don't you think attaching a file rather than pasting 1000+ lines of log
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> woud be more friendly to other people?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's only 700 lines not 1000+,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know how you count but I count 1023 lines between first
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;git remote add mga&quot; until last &quot;initscripts-9.31-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.31-1&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> (for a grand total of 1122 lines)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But even if it was 700, that would still be too big
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and the mail would be the same size
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> regardless (well bigger with the header overhead of the attachment), so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not sure why it's more considerate...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well there is: I'd to scroll down your 1000+ lines just to see if
+</I>&gt;<i> there was anything
+</I>&gt;<i> else after the logs...
+</I>&gt;<i> If it would have been a log file, I wound't have to.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also if you want to refer/quote to specific parts of the push (as I did
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in my other reply) then including inline is better and more considerate.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is pretty much common practice for patch reviews etc (to allow
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> inline quoting).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We don't speak about patch review but about repeteaed contents over
+</I>&gt;<i> 1000+ lines.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is off topic BS.
+</I>&gt;<i> Of those 1000+ lines, 814 were the same sendmail message again &amp; again!
+</I>&gt;<i> What's the point of repeating it over 800+ lines?
+</I>&gt;<i> If someone was interesting in &quot;reviewing&quot; them, having 5 lines
+</I>&gt;<i> would have been enough.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So it really depends on different peoples' definition of $CONSIDERATE.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Come on...
+</I>
+i think we can stop on this, this is a minor issue. The valuable infos
+are the infos about how coling created the git repo, handled it, ..
+
+
+Btw, coling thanks for all this.
+
+PS: someone know how to make new git repo to appear on gitweb ? i
+commited in puppet to enable it but still nothing on the gitweb even
+after some hours of wait .
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: someone know how to make new git repo to appear on gitweb ? i
+</I>&gt;<i> commited in puppet to enable it but still nothing on the gitweb even
+</I>&gt;<i> after some hours of wait .
+</I>
+In nodes.pp :
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - 4 * 1TB disk (1 for ARM board, 1 for jonund, 2 for ecosse) :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Total: 327.96 euros
+</I>
+After discussing this with Damien, instead of buying a second disk
+for jonund and ecosse, an other option would be to buy SSD disks.
+A 256GB SSD cost 380 euros. We also have a donation of 4 * 80GB SATA
+disks (new disks never used). So on each node we could use 2 * 80GB disks
+in raid 1 for the system, and do the builds on the 256GB SSD.
+
+So that's 760 euros instead of 328. But I think it can be worth it, as
+it can speed up the builds significantly.
+
+About disk size, we currently have a 508GB partition on jonund, with
+228GB used. But we have at least 200GB of old chroots that we can remove,
+so I think 256GB would be enough.
+
+What do you think ?
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+ <B>Damien Lallement</B>
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+
+Here is a status about the BS upgrade and the new hardware needed.
+This week, as explained with boklm and I on the sysadm ML or during
+meetings, I bought:
+- 2 i.MX53 boards (from Mouser) for the ARM port of Mageia (295 &#8364; all
+include)
+- 1 Dell PE415 (Dell offer us -15% on the final price + other discounts,
+this made a whole discount of 850 &#8364;!). Total price for the server: 2670 &#8364;
+
+Nanar and boklm are working on getting fiona in Paris to put new HDD
+inside. I will purchase HDD next week and I will send a proposition
+about &quot;cost of the trip to Marseille&quot; on this list.
+
+Have a good week-end!
+Dams
+--
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+Treasurer of Mageia.Org
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 21/10/11 14:18 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 21 October 2011 14:24, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Don't you think attaching a file rather than pasting 1000+ lines of log
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> woud be more friendly to other people?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's only 700 lines not 1000+,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know how you count but I count 1023 lines between first
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;git remote add mga&quot; until last &quot;initscripts-9.31-1 -&gt; initscripts-9.31-1&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> (for a grand total of 1122 lines)
+</I>
+That's mail client wrapping/unwrapping. It's 700 lines of content
+overall, but granted it ended up being more in the mail unless the mail
+client didn't reformat it.
+
+&gt;<i> Well there is: I'd to scroll down your 1000+ lines just to see if
+</I>&gt;<i> there was anything
+</I>&gt;<i> else after the logs...
+</I>&gt;<i> If it would have been a log file, I wound't have to.
+</I>
+True but then I want people to look at the output and give their
+opinions as to if there was something wrong/dangerous/problematic in
+what I did. If they are not interested in the topic they won't read the
+mail at all, so either they are participating half-heartedly and not
+reading the log, or they are helping. Either way it's the same task
+needed so the medium is pretty much irrelevant.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Also if you want to refer/quote to specific parts of the push (as I did
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in my other reply) then including inline is better and more considerate.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is pretty much common practice for patch reviews etc (to allow
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> inline quoting).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We don't speak about patch review but about repeteaed contents over
+</I>&gt;<i> 1000+ lines.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is off topic BS.
+</I>&gt;<i> Of those 1000+ lines, 814 were the same sendmail message again &amp; again!
+</I>&gt;<i> What's the point of repeating it over 800+ lines?
+</I>
+Granted I could have trimmed that, sorry.
+
+&gt;<i> If someone was interesting in &quot;reviewing&quot; them, having 5 lines
+</I>&gt;<i> would have been enough.
+</I>
+Not really. The whole point in the mail was that I was identifying
+branches that had been deleted due to the push I did. 5 lines would not
+be sufficient for that.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> So it really depends on different peoples' definition of $CONSIDERATE.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Come on...
+</I>
+I'm quite serious. It's a matter of opinion. I certainly don't
+completely disagree with all your points, but they are still subjective.
+
+But anyway, no real point in discussing further. If something similar
+happens again I'll try and trim the useless sendmail output.
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+ Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+ Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+ PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+ Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+</I>
+ping?
+j&#233;r&#244;me
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+ <B>Lev Givon</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%5Bbugzilla-daemon%40mageia.org%3A%20%5BBug%203070%5D%20ruby-rails%3B%0A%09wrong%20provide%5D&In-Reply-To=%3C20111025001630.GE15248%40avicenna.ee.columbia.edu%3E"
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+
+Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:51:41 +0000
+From: Sander Lepik &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">lev at mandriva.org</A>
+Subject: [Bug 3070] ruby-rails; wrong provide
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3070">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3070</A>
+
+Sander Lepik &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">sander.lepik at eesti.ee</A>&gt; changed:
+
+ What |Removed |Added
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------
+ CC| |<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">sander.lepik at eesti.ee</A>
+
+--- Comment #8 from Sander Lepik &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">sander.lepik at eesti.ee</A>&gt; 2011-10-24 22:51:40 CEST ---
+Ask sysadmins.
+
+--
+Configure bugmail: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email">https://bugs.mageia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email</A>
+------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
+You are on the CC list for the bug.
+
+
+----- End forwarded message -----
+
+Can someone please remove the ruby-rails-2.3.12 RPM and SRPM from the
+1/core/updates_testing repository? (I'll revert the package in the
+Mageia 1 svn repository to 2.3.11.)
+
+ Thanks,
+ L.G.
+
+
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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Unable%20to%20subscribe%20to%20vger.kernel.org%20lists%20with%0A%09mageia%20alias&In-Reply-To=%3C4EA63DF1.5050007%40mageia.org%3E"
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+
+I don't seem to get response from majordomo when trying to subscribe to
+the mailing lists at vger.kernel.org with my @mageia.org address.
+
+If someone wants to checks the logs or something, last time I tried was
+on 2011-10-25 16:07 UTC, so the response should've happened shortly
+(0-30min) after that, from <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">majordomo at vger.kernel.org.</A>
+
+--
+Anssi Hannula
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 05:41, Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't seem to get response from majordomo when trying to subscribe to
+</I>&gt;<i> the mailing lists at vger.kernel.org with my @mageia.org address.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If someone wants to checks the logs or something, last time I tried was
+</I>&gt;<i> on 2011-10-25 16:07 UTC, so the response should've happened shortly
+</I>&gt;<i> (0-30min) after that, from <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">majordomo at vger.kernel.org.</A>
+</I>
+The mail arrived on zarb and was passed to alamut:
+
+Oct 24 18:07:49 ryu postfix/smtp[28554]: 6CFF21CA90D:
+to=&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt;, relay=alamut.mageia.org[2a02:2178:2:7::2]:25,
+delay=3.8, delays=0.02/0/3.6/0.22, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0
+Ok: queued as 0302146950)
+
+
+Where it amavis blocked it:
+
+Oct 24 18:07:44 alamut postgrey[1994]: action=pass, reason=client
+whitelist, client_name=ryu.zarb.org, client_address=2002:d455:9e16::1,
+sender=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">Majordomo-Owner at vger.kernel.org</A>, recipient=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">anssi at mageia.org</A>
+Oct 24 18:07:45 alamut amavis[22090]: (22090-12) Blocked SPAM,
+[IPv6:2002:d455:9e16::1] [209.132.180.67]
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">Majordomo-Owner at vger.kernel.org</A>&gt; -&gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">anssi.hannula at iki.fi</A>&gt;,
+quarantine: spam-EgrHXNquOzKm.gz, Message-ID:
+&lt;S932959Ab1JXQHk/<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">20111024160740Z+149 at vger.kernel.org</A>&gt;, mail_id:
+EgrHXNquOzKm, Hits: 7.058, size: 1985, 1220 ms
+Oct 24 18:07:45 alamut postfix/smtp[25200]: 125B846953:
+to=&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">anssi.hannula at iki.fi</A>&gt;, orig_to=&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt;,
+relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10025, delay=1.5, delays=0.23/0/0/1.2,
+dsn=2.5.0, status=sent (250 2.5.0 Ok, id=22090-12,
+DISCARD(bounce.suppressed))
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias">boklm at mars-attacks.org
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+ <I>Tue Oct 25 11:05:45 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Tue, 25 Oct 2011, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 05:41, Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I don't seem to get response from majordomo when trying to subscribe to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the mailing lists at vger.kernel.org with my @mageia.org address.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If someone wants to checks the logs or something, last time I tried was
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on 2011-10-25 16:07 UTC, so the response should've happened shortly
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (0-30min) after that, from <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">majordomo at vger.kernel.org.</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The mail arrived on zarb and was passed to alamut:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oct 24 18:07:49 ryu postfix/smtp[28554]: 6CFF21CA90D:
+</I>&gt;<i> to=&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt;, relay=alamut.mageia.org[2a02:2178:2:7::2]:25,
+</I>&gt;<i> delay=3.8, delays=0.02/0/3.6/0.22, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok: queued as 0302146950)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Where it amavis blocked it:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oct 24 18:07:44 alamut postgrey[1994]: action=pass, reason=client
+</I>&gt;<i> whitelist, client_name=ryu.zarb.org, client_address=2002:d455:9e16::1,
+</I>&gt;<i> sender=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">Majordomo-Owner at vger.kernel.org</A>, recipient=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">anssi at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oct 24 18:07:45 alamut amavis[22090]: (22090-12) Blocked SPAM,
+</I>&gt;<i> [IPv6:2002:d455:9e16::1] [209.132.180.67]
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">Majordomo-Owner at vger.kernel.org</A>&gt; -&gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">anssi.hannula at iki.fi</A>&gt;,
+</I>&gt;<i> quarantine: spam-EgrHXNquOzKm.gz, Message-ID:
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;S932959Ab1JXQHk/<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">20111024160740Z+149 at vger.kernel.org</A>&gt;, mail_id:
+</I>&gt;<i> EgrHXNquOzKm, Hits: 7.058, size: 1985, 1220 ms
+</I>&gt;<i> Oct 24 18:07:45 alamut postfix/smtp[25200]: 125B846953:
+</I>&gt;<i> to=&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">anssi.hannula at iki.fi</A>&gt;, orig_to=&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt;,
+</I>&gt;<i> relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10025, delay=1.5, delays=0.23/0/0/1.2,
+</I>&gt;<i> dsn=2.5.0, status=sent (250 2.5.0 Ok, id=22090-12,
+</I>&gt;<i> DISCARD(bounce.suppressed))
+</I>
+X-Spam-Flag: YES
+X-Spam-Score: 6.457
+X-Spam-Level: ******
+X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.457 tag=1 tag2=4.7 kill=4.7
+ tests=[ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE=0.1, BAYES_20=-0.001,
+ KB_DATE_CONTAINS_TAB=2.751, TAB_IN_FROM=3.507, VBOUNCE_MESSAGE=0.1]
+ autolearn=no
+
+Some people reported similar problem with vger.kernel.org :
+<A HREF="https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6429">https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6429</A>
+
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>nicolas vigier skrev 25.10.2011 12:05:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> X-Spam-Flag: YES
+</I>&gt;<i> X-Spam-Score: 6.457
+</I>&gt;<i> X-Spam-Level: ******
+</I>&gt;<i> X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.457 tag=1 tag2=4.7 kill=4.7
+</I>&gt;<i> tests=[ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE=0.1, BAYES_20=-0.001,
+</I>&gt;<i> KB_DATE_CONTAINS_TAB=2.751, TAB_IN_FROM=3.507, VBOUNCE_MESSAGE=0.1]
+</I>&gt;<i> autolearn=no
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some people reported similar problem with vger.kernel.org :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6429">https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6429</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I suggest we add:
+<A HREF="https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/attachment.cgi?id=4977&amp;action=diff">https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/attachment.cgi?id=4977&amp;action=diff</A>
+
+to our spamassassin then as vger is important server
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+<PRE>On 28 October 2011 21:11, Jani V&#228;limaa &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Made some silly typos and now there are wrongly named pkgs in mirrors,
+</I>&gt;<i> e.g lib64edata-cal%[edatacalmajor}-3.3.1.1-1.mga2. Things are going to
+</I>&gt;<i> be fixed after I manage to find some sysadmins, please be patient.. :)
+</I>
+Which shows a bug since it should have been rejected on upload
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+ <B>Jerome Quelin</B>
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+<PRE>hi,
+
+takashi is currently working as my apprentice for perl packaging. he has
+shown good skills &amp; dedication.
+
+in order to move to next step, i'd like him to be granted full packager
+rights so he can submit directly on the build-system. i'll still be here
+for him if need be.
+
+thanks,
+j&#233;r&#244;me
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+ <B>D.Morgan</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Jerome Quelin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">jquelin at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> takashi is currently working as my apprentice for perl packaging. he has
+</I>&gt;<i> shown good skills &amp; dedication.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in order to move to next step, i'd like him to be granted full packager
+</I>&gt;<i> rights so he can submit directly on the build-system. i'll still be here
+</I>&gt;<i> for him if need be.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i> j&#233;r&#244;me
+</I>
+Just done.
+
+
+Please test and report any failure.
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Jerome Quelin</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] promoting trainee to full packager">jquelin at gmail.com
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+ <I>Mon Oct 31 09:42:37 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>hi,
+
+On 11/10/31 00:42 +0100, D.Morgan wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; in order to move to next step, i'd like him to be granted full packager
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rights so he can submit directly on the build-system. i'll still be here
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for him if need be.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just done.
+</I>
+thanks.
+
+&gt;<i> Please test and report any failure.
+</I>
+takashi, it's now up to you! :-)
+
+j&#233;r&#244;me
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Oct 1 19:24:05 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 09:42:37 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 82<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003982.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003996.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004002.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004036.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Why do kernel updates always fail to build all of the i586 packages?
+</A><A NAME="4036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004054.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004017.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mail aliases for i18n team
+</A><A NAME="4017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004020.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mail aliases for i18n team
+</A><A NAME="4020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004022.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mail aliases for i18n team
+</A><A NAME="4022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004026.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004044.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004057.html">[Mageia-sysadm] promoting trainee to full packager
+</A><A NAME="4057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004050.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org: [Bug 3070] ruby-rails; wrong provide]
+</A><A NAME="4050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lev Givon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004038.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004039.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004040.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004042.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004048.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004051.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004004.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004005.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004033.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mailing list message sizes.
+</A><A NAME="4033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004034.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Why do kernel updates always fail to build all of the i586 packages?
+</A><A NAME="4034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004025.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003987.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003990.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004047.html">[Mageia-sysadm] More about BS upgrade
+</A><A NAME="4047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003988.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003999.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [sysadmin-reports] alamut.mageia.org:hobbitd warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004021.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004024.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004027.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004049.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004056.html">[Mageia-sysadm] promoting trainee to full packager
+</A><A NAME="4056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004058.html">[Mageia-sysadm] promoting trainee to full packager
+</A><A NAME="4058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003993.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004013.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Creating ldap account
+</A><A NAME="4013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004016.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Creating ldap account
+</A><A NAME="4016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004019.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mail aliases for i18n team
+</A><A NAME="4019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004032.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003985.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003986.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003998.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004028.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004030.html">[Mageia-sysadm] strange iurt error: failure to create files in chroot/home/builder
+</A><A NAME="4030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004031.html">[Mageia-sysadm] strange iurt error: failure to create files in chroot/home/builder
+</A><A NAME="4031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004035.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Why do kernel updates always fail to build all of the i586 packages?
+</A><A NAME="4035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004037.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Why do kernel updates always fail to build all of the i586 packages?
+</A><A NAME="4037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004052.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003979.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003991.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003994.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004007.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004008.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003981.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003997.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004009.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004029.html">[Mageia-sysadm] strange iurt error: failure to create files in chroot/home/builder
+</A><A NAME="4029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004041.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004043.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004055.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003995.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003980.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004006.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003978.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004000.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Data mining our logs and data
+</A><A NAME="4000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004015.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Final proposal for new servers
+</A><A NAME="4015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003977.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003983.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003984.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003989.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003992.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004001.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004003.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004010.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Creating ldap account
+</A><A NAME="4010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004011.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004012.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Final proposal for new servers
+</A><A NAME="4012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004014.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Creating ldap account
+</A><A NAME="4014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004018.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Data mining our logs and data
+</A><A NAME="4018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004023.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-reports] Hobbit [358589] alamut.mageia.org:disk warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="4023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004045.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004046.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Final proposal for new servers
+</A><A NAME="4046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004053.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Oct 31 09:42:37 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 09:42:43 CET 2011</i>
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+ <h1>October 2011 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Oct 1 19:24:05 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 09:42:37 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 82<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003977.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003978.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003979.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003980.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003981.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003982.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003983.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003984.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003985.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003986.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003995.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003987.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003988.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003990.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003989.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003991.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003992.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003993.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003994.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003996.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003997.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003998.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003999.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [sysadmin-reports] alamut.mageia.org:hobbitd warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004000.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Data mining our logs and data
+</A><A NAME="4000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004001.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004002.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004003.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004004.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004005.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004006.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004007.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004008.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004009.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004010.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Creating ldap account
+</A><A NAME="4010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004011.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004012.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Final proposal for new servers
+</A><A NAME="4012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004013.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Creating ldap account
+</A><A NAME="4013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004014.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Creating ldap account
+</A><A NAME="4014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004015.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Final proposal for new servers
+</A><A NAME="4015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004016.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Creating ldap account
+</A><A NAME="4016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004017.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mail aliases for i18n team
+</A><A NAME="4017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004018.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Data mining our logs and data
+</A><A NAME="4018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004019.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mail aliases for i18n team
+</A><A NAME="4019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004020.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mail aliases for i18n team
+</A><A NAME="4020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004021.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004022.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mail aliases for i18n team
+</A><A NAME="4022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004023.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-reports] Hobbit [358589] alamut.mageia.org:disk warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="4023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004024.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004025.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004026.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004027.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004028.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004029.html">[Mageia-sysadm] strange iurt error: failure to create files in chroot/home/builder
+</A><A NAME="4029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004030.html">[Mageia-sysadm] strange iurt error: failure to create files in chroot/home/builder
+</A><A NAME="4030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004031.html">[Mageia-sysadm] strange iurt error: failure to create files in chroot/home/builder
+</A><A NAME="4031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004032.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004033.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mailing list message sizes.
+</A><A NAME="4033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004034.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Why do kernel updates always fail to build all of the i586 packages?
+</A><A NAME="4034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004035.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Why do kernel updates always fail to build all of the i586 packages?
+</A><A NAME="4035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004036.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Why do kernel updates always fail to build all of the i586 packages?
+</A><A NAME="4036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004037.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Why do kernel updates always fail to build all of the i586 packages?
+</A><A NAME="4037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004038.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004039.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004040.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004041.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004042.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004043.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004044.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004045.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004047.html">[Mageia-sysadm] More about BS upgrade
+</A><A NAME="4047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004046.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Final proposal for new servers
+</A><A NAME="4046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004048.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004049.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004050.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org: [Bug 3070] ruby-rails; wrong provide]
+</A><A NAME="4050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lev Givon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004051.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004052.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004053.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004054.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004055.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004056.html">[Mageia-sysadm] promoting trainee to full packager
+</A><A NAME="4056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004057.html">[Mageia-sysadm] promoting trainee to full packager
+</A><A NAME="4057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004058.html">[Mageia-sysadm] promoting trainee to full packager
+</A><A NAME="4058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Oct 31 09:42:37 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 09:42:43 CET 2011</i>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>October 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Oct 1 19:24:05 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 09:42:37 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 82<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004050.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org: [Bug 3070] ruby-rails; wrong provide]
+</A><A NAME="4050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lev Givon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004055.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004023.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-reports] Hobbit [358589] alamut.mageia.org:disk warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="4023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004004.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004005.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004006.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004007.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004008.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004010.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Creating ldap account
+</A><A NAME="4010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004013.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Creating ldap account
+</A><A NAME="4013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004014.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Creating ldap account
+</A><A NAME="4014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004016.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Creating ldap account
+</A><A NAME="4016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004000.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Data mining our logs and data
+</A><A NAME="4000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004018.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Data mining our logs and data
+</A><A NAME="4018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004012.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Final proposal for new servers
+</A><A NAME="4012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004015.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Final proposal for new servers
+</A><A NAME="4015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004046.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Final proposal for new servers
+</A><A NAME="4046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003999.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [sysadmin-reports] alamut.mageia.org:hobbitd warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004045.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004038.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004039.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004040.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004041.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004042.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004043.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004044.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004048.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004017.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mail aliases for i18n team
+</A><A NAME="4017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004019.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mail aliases for i18n team
+</A><A NAME="4019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004020.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mail aliases for i18n team
+</A><A NAME="4020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004022.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mail aliases for i18n team
+</A><A NAME="4022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004033.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mailing list message sizes.
+</A><A NAME="4033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004047.html">[Mageia-sysadm] More about BS upgrade
+</A><A NAME="4047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003977.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003978.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003979.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003980.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003982.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003983.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003984.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003995.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003987.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003988.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003990.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003989.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003991.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003992.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003993.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003994.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003996.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004001.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004002.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004003.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004009.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004011.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004056.html">[Mageia-sysadm] promoting trainee to full packager
+</A><A NAME="4056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004057.html">[Mageia-sysadm] promoting trainee to full packager
+</A><A NAME="4057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004058.html">[Mageia-sysadm] promoting trainee to full packager
+</A><A NAME="4058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004029.html">[Mageia-sysadm] strange iurt error: failure to create files in chroot/home/builder
+</A><A NAME="4029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004030.html">[Mageia-sysadm] strange iurt error: failure to create files in chroot/home/builder
+</A><A NAME="4030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004031.html">[Mageia-sysadm] strange iurt error: failure to create files in chroot/home/builder
+</A><A NAME="4031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004053.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004054.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004051.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004052.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003981.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003985.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003986.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003997.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003998.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004021.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004024.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004025.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004026.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004027.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004028.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004032.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004049.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004034.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Why do kernel updates always fail to build all of the i586 packages?
+</A><A NAME="4034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004035.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Why do kernel updates always fail to build all of the i586 packages?
+</A><A NAME="4035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004036.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Why do kernel updates always fail to build all of the i586 packages?
+</A><A NAME="4036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004037.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Why do kernel updates always fail to build all of the i586 packages?
+</A><A NAME="4037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Oct 31 09:42:37 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 09:42:43 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>October 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Oct 1 19:24:05 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 09:42:37 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 82<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01317489845- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003977.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01317489845-01317493187- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003978.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01317489845-01317493187-01317496798- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003979.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01317489845-01317493187-01317531231- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003980.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01317489845-01317493187-01317591089- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003983.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01317489845-01317583588- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003982.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01317489845-01317583588-01317592110- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003984.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01317489845-01317583588-01317649323- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003990.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01317489845-01317583588-01317649323-01317654583- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003993.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01317489845-01317644865- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003987.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01317489845-01317644865-01317648882- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003988.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ma&#226;t
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01317489845-01317644865-01317651064- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003989.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01317489845-01317644865-01317651064-01317652021- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003991.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317489845-01317644865-01317651064-01317652021-01317654009- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003992.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317489845-01317644865-01317651064-01317652021-01317654009-01317662918- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003994.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317489845-01317644865-01317651064-01317652021-01317654009-01317662918-01317632991- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003995.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317489845-01317644865-01317651064-01317668421- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003996.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01317489845-01317831753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004001.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01317489845-01317831753-01317838705- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004002.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01317489845-01317831753-01317838705-01318008166- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004003.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01317489845-01317831753-01318261846- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004009.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01317489845-01317831753-01318261846-01318268971- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004011.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="4011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01317550766- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003981.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01317550766-01317603808- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003985.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01317550766-01317603808-01317604079- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003986.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01317550766-01317603808-01317604079-01317723571- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003997.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01317550766-01317603808-01317604079-01317723571-01317724577- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003998.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uneeded touch on rpmsrate
+</A><A NAME="3998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01317809559- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003999.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [sysadmin-reports] alamut.mageia.org:hobbitd warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01317811393- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004000.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Data mining our logs and data
+</A><A NAME="4000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01317811393-01318537270- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004018.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Data mining our logs and data
+</A><A NAME="4018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01318108122- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004004.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01318108122-01318255065- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004007.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01318109059- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004005.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01318109059-01318129185- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004006.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01318109059-01318129185-01318255201- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004008.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Copying packages from release to updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="4008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01318267899- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004010.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Creating ldap account
+</A><A NAME="4010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01318267899-01318282549- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004013.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Creating ldap account
+</A><A NAME="4013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01318267899-01318282549-01318416015- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004014.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Creating ldap account
+</A><A NAME="4014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01318267899-01318282549-01318416015-01318531501- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004016.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Creating ldap account
+</A><A NAME="4016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01318272290- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004012.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Final proposal for new servers
+</A><A NAME="4012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01318272290-01318442159- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004015.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Final proposal for new servers
+</A><A NAME="4015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01318272290-01319213883- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004046.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Final proposal for new servers
+</A><A NAME="4046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01318531849- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004017.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mail aliases for i18n team
+</A><A NAME="4017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01318531849-01318538106- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004019.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mail aliases for i18n team
+</A><A NAME="4019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01318531849-01318538106-01318538463- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004020.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mail aliases for i18n team
+</A><A NAME="4020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01318531849-01318538106-01318538463-01318592194- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004022.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mail aliases for i18n team
+</A><A NAME="4022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01318590062- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004021.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01318590062-01319098572- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004024.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01318590062-01319098572-01319102002- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004025.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01318590062-01319098572-01319103851- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004026.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01318590062-01319098572-01319103851-01319105601- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004027.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01318590062-01319098572-01319103851-01319105601-01319105926- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004028.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01318590062-01319098572-01319103851-01319105601-01319105926-01319138769- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004032.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01318590062-01319098572-01319103851-01319105601-01319105926-01319138769-01319440257- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004049.html">[Mageia-sysadm] unexpanded-macro check crazyness
+</A><A NAME="4049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01318610470- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004023.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-reports] Hobbit [358589] alamut.mageia.org:disk warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="4023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01319128756- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004029.html">[Mageia-sysadm] strange iurt error: failure to create files in chroot/home/builder
+</A><A NAME="4029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01319128756-01319130073- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004030.html">[Mageia-sysadm] strange iurt error: failure to create files in chroot/home/builder
+</A><A NAME="4030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01319128756-01319130073-01319130403- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004031.html">[Mageia-sysadm] strange iurt error: failure to create files in chroot/home/builder
+</A><A NAME="4031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01319139883- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004033.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mailing list message sizes.
+</A><A NAME="4033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01319186517- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004034.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Why do kernel updates always fail to build all of the i586 packages?
+</A><A NAME="4034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01319186517-01319187688- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004035.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Why do kernel updates always fail to build all of the i586 packages?
+</A><A NAME="4035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01319186517-01319187688-01319188141- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004036.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Why do kernel updates always fail to build all of the i586 packages?
+</A><A NAME="4036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01319186517-01319187688-01319188141-01319188354- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004037.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Why do kernel updates always fail to build all of the i586 packages?
+</A><A NAME="4037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01319189583- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004038.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01319189583-01319190084- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004039.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01319189583-01319190084-01319190456- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004040.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01319189583-01319190084-01319193929- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004041.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01319189583-01319190084-01319193929-01319199841- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004042.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01319189583-01319190084-01319193929-01319199841-01319203120- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004043.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01319189583-01319190084-01319193929-01319199841-01319203120-01319203767- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004044.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01319189583-01319190084-01319193929-01319199841-01319203120-01319203767-01319204335- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004045.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01319189583-01319190084-01319193929-01319199841-01319203120-01319300385- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004048.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Initscripts - Migrating to git and regenerating mdkconf.patch and further Mageia tweaks.
+</A><A NAME="4048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01319213849- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004047.html">[Mageia-sysadm] More about BS upgrade
+</A><A NAME="4047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01319501790- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004050.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org: [Bug 3070] ruby-rails; wrong provide]
+</A><A NAME="4050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lev Givon
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01319517681- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004051.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01319517681-01319524801- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004052.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01319517681-01319524801-01319533545- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004053.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01319517681-01319524801-01319533545-01319533741- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004054.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Unable to subscribe to vger.kernel.org lists with mageia alias
+</A><A NAME="4054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01319837512- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004055.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-data-server-3.3.1.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="4055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01319965286- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004056.html">[Mageia-sysadm] promoting trainee to full packager
+</A><A NAME="4056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01319965286-01320018171- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004057.html">[Mageia-sysadm] promoting trainee to full packager
+</A><A NAME="4057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01319965286-01320018171-01320050557- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004058.html">[Mageia-sysadm] promoting trainee to full packager
+</A><A NAME="4058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Oct 31 09:42:37 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Oct 31 09:42:43 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
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