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I will send +</I>><i> > them back to WD. So we will have new Caviar Black for spare. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes. +</I> +good news, let's go with that. + +><i> >> - backup server : we need a server with a lot of disk space, to save +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> data from other servers. Fast CPU or a lot of ram is not needed on +</I>><i> >> this server. +</I>><i> >> dams suggested buying this server : +</I>><i> >> <A HREF="http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&c=fr&">http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&c=fr&</A> +</I>><i> >> l=fr&s=bsd&cs=frbsdt1&model_id=poweredge-r415 899 euros +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> adding : +</I>><i> >> * Redundant power supply (132 euros) +</I>><i> >> * 4 * 1TB disks (4 * 332 euros) +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Total: 2 261 euros +</I>><i> >> So total is quite expensive. An other solution could be to buy a +</I>><i> >> cheap computer that one of us keep at home/office, doing remote +</I>><i> >> backups. Or maybe we can find someone to donate a server, so that we +</I>><i> >> only need to buy disks for the server. Maybe we can ask for hardware +</I>><i> >> donations for this server on mageia-dev and/or blog ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Not expensive for my POV as is a new brand machine: if it fails in the +</I>><i> > first years, no need to buy spare and go to Marseille! Renting a server +</I>><i> > for +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But can they replace the server in Marseille without us going there ? It +</I>><i> seems difficult. +</I> +i think maât can do it. + +><i> If we buy an old server at 200 euros, even if we need to replace it 3 +</I>><i> times, it would still be cheaper than 2000 euros. +</I> +i agree here, just buy 3 servers at 200, if one fails, the 2 others are +combined faster than 1 new one, and still cheaper + +><i> > the same time than the guarantee will cost the same (or even better as GB +</I>><i> > are really expensive when renting) thing for a single "rent". +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> >> - server for packagers, to host VMs used to test package builds. This +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> needs to be a fast server, with a lot of RAM. Should we buy an +</I>><i> >> expensive server for this now ? Or wait until we have more money, or +</I>><i> >> someone donate a server for this ? Or rent a server at 60 euros / +</I>><i> >> month on online.net ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > A guy from the community offer to rent +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-classic.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-classic.xhtml</A> +</I>><i> > Can it suit packagers need (local build machine)? +</I>><i> > If not enough for packagers build test machine, we know that we will have +</I>><i> > this "dedibox" available for something else! +</I>><i> > If no need, we will put the 35€ per month on a other expense. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We need a server for packagers. But preferably something fast as multiple +</I>><i> people will be building packages at the same time. So the server at 60 +</I>><i> euros per month would be better. Or we can buy a dell server with +</I>><i> 12 cores, 32GB for 2200 euros : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf">http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf</A> +</I> +i think for buildnode we'll indeed want something good, but if we can't do +multiple builds/node than 12cores is overkill imho. + +otoh, if there is a blade enclosure with space left, we could buy a blade (or +2) for that price? + +at the same time, i still think that a separate backup server is not required, +i think perhaps if someone has a fast and unlimited internet connection, i'd +be easier to put a small nas into someone's house that can take backups. + +Ok, there is no onsite backup, but that's not really required in our case, is +it? +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003989.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003992.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3991">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3991">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3991">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3991">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |