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<H1>[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers</H1>
<B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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<I>Mon Oct 3 16:27:01 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>Op maandag 03 oktober 2011 16:11:04 schreef nicolas vigier:
><i> > Remember that WD Caviar Black are guaranteed for 5 years. I will send
</I>><i> > them back to WD. So we will have new Caviar Black for spare.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Yes.
</I>
good news, let's go with that.
><i> >> - backup server : we need a server with a lot of disk space, to save
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> data from other servers. Fast CPU or a lot of ram is not needed on
</I>><i> >> this server.
</I>><i> >> dams suggested buying this server :
</I>><i> >> <A HREF="http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&c=fr&">http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&c=fr&</A>
</I>><i> >> l=fr&s=bsd&cs=frbsdt1&model_id=poweredge-r415 899 euros
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> adding :
</I>><i> >> * Redundant power supply (132 euros)
</I>><i> >> * 4 * 1TB disks (4 * 332 euros)
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Total: 2 261 euros
</I>><i> >> So total is quite expensive. An other solution could be to buy a
</I>><i> >> cheap computer that one of us keep at home/office, doing remote
</I>><i> >> backups. Or maybe we can find someone to donate a server, so that we
</I>><i> >> only need to buy disks for the server. Maybe we can ask for hardware
</I>><i> >> donations for this server on mageia-dev and/or blog ?
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Not expensive for my POV as is a new brand machine: if it fails in the
</I>><i> > first years, no need to buy spare and go to Marseille! Renting a server
</I>><i> > for
</I>><i>
</I>><i> But can they replace the server in Marseille without us going there ? It
</I>><i> seems difficult.
</I>
i think maât can do it.
><i> If we buy an old server at 200 euros, even if we need to replace it 3
</I>><i> times, it would still be cheaper than 2000 euros.
</I>
i agree here, just buy 3 servers at 200, if one fails, the 2 others are
combined faster than 1 new one, and still cheaper
><i> > the same time than the guarantee will cost the same (or even better as GB
</I>><i> > are really expensive when renting) thing for a single "rent".
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> >> - server for packagers, to host VMs used to test package builds. This
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> needs to be a fast server, with a lot of RAM. Should we buy an
</I>><i> >> expensive server for this now ? Or wait until we have more money, or
</I>><i> >> someone donate a server for this ? Or rent a server at 60 euros /
</I>><i> >> month on online.net ?
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > A guy from the community offer to rent
</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-classic.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-classic.xhtml</A>
</I>><i> > Can it suit packagers need (local build machine)?
</I>><i> > If not enough for packagers build test machine, we know that we will have
</I>><i> > this "dedibox" available for something else!
</I>><i> > If no need, we will put the 35€ per month on a other expense.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> We need a server for packagers. But preferably something fast as multiple
</I>><i> people will be building packages at the same time. So the server at 60
</I>><i> euros per month would be better. Or we can buy a dell server with
</I>><i> 12 cores, 32GB for 2200 euros :
</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf">http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf</A>
</I>
i think for buildnode we'll indeed want something good, but if we can't do
multiple builds/node than 12cores is overkill imho.
otoh, if there is a blade enclosure with space left, we could buy a blade (or
2) for that price?
at the same time, i still think that a separate backup server is not required,
i think perhaps if someone has a fast and unlimited internet connection, i'd
be easier to put a small nas into someone's house that can take backups.
Ok, there is no onsite backup, but that's not really required in our case, is
it?
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