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   <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers</H1>
    <B>andre999</B> 
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    <I>Sun Oct  2 06:53:51 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 19:24, nicolas vigier&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
</I>&gt;<i>    
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   Total: 2 261 euros
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   So total is quite expensive.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
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That was my first reaction ...  But then I thought WAIT, this isn't a 
typical consumer or small business application ...

&gt;<i> Provided the role these hardware will play, this looks still rather
</I>&gt;<i> cheap on the contrary. There may be alternatives but this doesn't look
</I>&gt;<i> that expensive.
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Agreed.

&gt;&gt;<i> An other solution could be to buy a cheap
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   computer that one of us keep at home/office, doing remote backups.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
</I>&gt;<i> That's an option too, either way (with or without the above).
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We should have off-site backup, in case of a disaster at the centre.  At 
least for critical info.
If someone has to go to the centre, or we have to spend a lot of time 
downloading, at least we will have an up-to-date backup if it is remote.
I'd say that good quality disks and a UPS is important.
A cheap box that someone keeps at home/office seems workable, as long as 
there is a fast Internet connexion for restores.
Keeping occasional local backups at the centre, combined with up-to-date 
remote backups would be a good idea.
So normally in the case of failure, we rsync the local backup with the 
remote for quick recovery, but in the case of a disaster, we still have 
everything remote.
All that impacts on our hardware decisions.

...
&gt;&gt;<i> - server for packagers, to host VMs used to test package builds. This
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   needs to be a fast server, with a lot of RAM. Should we buy an
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   expensive server for this now ? Or wait until we have more money, or
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   someone donate a server for this ? Or rent a server at 60 euros /
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   month on online.net ?
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-pro-r210.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-pro-r210.xhtml</A>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
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My bias is that buying is better than renting, if we can.
(In a year or two the rental would have paid the cost of buying.)

&gt;&gt;<i> Any comments about this ?
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
</I>&gt;<i> We should not wait but do with what we have, and tell about it, and
</I>&gt;<i> remind regularly where we are in our budget (what's missing, what's
</I>&gt;<i> needed, etc.) and how we can grow it. Once the ball is rolling, it's
</I>&gt;<i> easier to find people willing to help it roll even further.
</I>&gt;<i>    
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Good point.

&gt;<i> Cheers,
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Romain
</I>&gt;<i>    
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My 2 cents :)

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Andr&#233;

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