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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Sun Oct 2 06:53:51 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 19:24, nicolas vigier&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Total: 2 261 euros
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So total is quite expensive.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That was my first reaction ... But then I thought WAIT, this isn't a
+typical consumer or small business application ...
+
+&gt;<i> Provided the role these hardware will play, this looks still rather
+</I>&gt;<i> cheap on the contrary. There may be alternatives but this doesn't look
+</I>&gt;<i> that expensive.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Agreed.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> An other solution could be to buy a cheap
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> computer that one of us keep at home/office, doing remote backups.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's an option too, either way (with or without the above).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+We should have off-site backup, in case of a disaster at the centre. At
+least for critical info.
+If someone has to go to the centre, or we have to spend a lot of time
+downloading, at least we will have an up-to-date backup if it is remote.
+I'd say that good quality disks and a UPS is important.
+A cheap box that someone keeps at home/office seems workable, as long as
+there is a fast Internet connexion for restores.
+Keeping occasional local backups at the centre, combined with up-to-date
+remote backups would be a good idea.
+So normally in the case of failure, we rsync the local backup with the
+remote for quick recovery, but in the case of a disaster, we still have
+everything remote.
+All that impacts on our hardware decisions.
+
+...
+&gt;&gt;<i> - server for packagers, to host VMs used to test package builds. This
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> needs to be a fast server, with a lot of RAM. Should we buy an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> expensive server for this now ? Or wait until we have more money, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> someone donate a server for this ? Or rent a server at 60 euros /
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> month on online.net ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-pro-r210.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-pro-r210.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+My bias is that buying is better than renting, if we can.
+(In a year or two the rental would have paid the cost of buying.)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Any comments about this ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We should not wait but do with what we have, and tell about it, and
+</I>&gt;<i> remind regularly where we are in our budget (what's missing, what's
+</I>&gt;<i> needed, etc.) and how we can grow it. Once the ball is rolling, it's
+</I>&gt;<i> easier to find people willing to help it roll even further.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Good point.
+
+&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+My 2 cents :)
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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