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some of these may +already have answers, so please just link me to them. + +It comes down to: + - board needs to have an up-to-date view of how much our +infrastructure costs, and would cost in different setups; and this, +split in separate, functional chunks; + - how can we change our setup to: 1) reduce the impact of having one +chunk (here a faulty RJ45 in Marseille) shut down so much of the +project for such a long time and 2) have a quick report, automatic +about this (not only for sysadmin, but for all users of our +infrastructure). + +So here is how I would put it: + + A. could you, as sysadmin, draw (graphically) the dependencies +between services, at a certain functional scale + their current +location/host; + * goal: have an overview of Mageia infrastructure, from the outside +of sysadmin team (and yes, again, that is needed); + * can we get it produced from the puppet conf? => the goal being +for now to have such a visual overview first, not to have it +automated. + * the function blocks I can think of would be (but add/split/fix +accordingly): + + core for communication & doc: + - user accounts (LDAP, identity.m.o) + - communications (mailing-lists, mail server) + - documentation (Wiki, Bugzilla) + - a specific code repository (not related to the build system) +for adm and/or one dedicated to organization (paperwork, reports, +constitution, etc.) + + Web hosts (www, blog, planet, forums, security notifs, etc.) + + core for building the distribution + - code repo + - buildsystem + - translation tools + - other? + + core for distribution software + - primary mirror + + other? + + B. based on these functional chunks, for each, could you: + * document what is needed for them: storage, bandwidth, what it +represent in full hardware today, what it should grow to. Goals are: + - to have a clear idea of how much it represents/costs: today, or +if we would move to other hosting solutions (paid or not, hardware or +virtual); + - to know how much we need to budget in security for these services; + - to know what our options (and needs) are for migrating some +services to an architecture or a paid solution that would improve +their availability (and accessibility in case of failure). + + C. various questions: + * could both above documentation (A and B) be maintained through changes; + * would it be possible to have the systems hosting our services to +have a prefix in their fqdn with the city/country they are located in? +Goal: being more explicit about where a service is located at this +time, so that a $ host www.mageia.org can answer me something like +champagne.paris.fr.mageia.org - for instance. I don't mean to change +all that, but I'm wondering about the opportunity. + * what do you think about maintaining a separate blog (for +opening/closing tickets + a global summary of what xymon provides +already) under status.mageia.org (or maybe a different domain, for +that matter)? (something similar to status.twitter.com) + + +Thanks! +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004355.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004357.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4356">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4356">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4356">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4356">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004357.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004357.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..22793961a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004357.html @@ -0,0 +1,282 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%20costs&In-Reply-To=%3C1333378799.2633.63.camel%40liliana.cdg.redhat.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004356.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004359.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%20costs&In-Reply-To=%3C1333378799.2633.63.camel%40liliana.cdg.redhat.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Apr 2 16:59:59 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004356.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004359.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4357">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4357">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4357">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4357">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 02 avril 2012 à 15:23 +0200, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> following past week-end incident, and I know that there are already +</I>><i> some reflexions and discussions about that, I'm posting the following +</I>><i> questions/needs, with my treasurer/board hat; some of these may +</I>><i> already have answers, so please just link me to them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It comes down to: +</I>><i> - board needs to have an up-to-date view of how much our +</I>><i> infrastructure costs, and would cost in different setups; and this, +</I>><i> split in separate, functional chunks; +</I> +That's a rather odd question, since with your treasurer hat, you should +have all infos, so I do not really see what we can answer to that. + +The list of servers is in puppet : +<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/manifests/nodes/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/manifests/nodes/</A> + +and each has some module assigned to it, take this as functional chunk. +Unfortunately, the servers are all doing more than one tasks, so +splitting them in functional chunks do not mean much. + +><i> - how can we change our setup to: 1) reduce the impact of having one +</I>><i> chunk (here a faulty RJ45 in Marseille) shut down so much of the +</I>><i> project for such a long time and +</I> +That's easy to explain. + +You identify each single point of failure, ( or spof ) and you make sure +to remove the 'single' from SPOF by making it redundant. + +For exemple, have 2 redundant power supply. Have 2 redundant ldap server +( we already do it ), have 2 redundant network connection. + +Of course, the downside is that it cost twice the price ( at least ), +and it is more complex. + +Another solution is to try to increase the MTRR. + +><i> 2) have a quick report, automatic +</I>><i> about this (not only for sysadmin, but for all users of our +</I>><i> infrastructure). +</I> +I do think for me that the current report of xymon are sufficient. + +><i> So here is how I would put it: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A. could you, as sysadmin, draw (graphically) the dependencies +</I>><i> between services, at a certain functional scale + their current +</I>><i> location/host; +</I>><i> * goal: have an overview of Mageia infrastructure, from the outside +</I>><i> of sysadmin team (and yes, again, that is needed); +</I>><i> * can we get it produced from the puppet conf? => the goal being +</I>><i> for now to have such a visual overview first, not to have it +</I>><i> automated. +</I>><i> * the function blocks I can think of would be (but add/split/fix +</I>><i> accordingly): +</I>><i> + core for communication & doc: +</I>><i> - user accounts (LDAP, identity.m.o) +</I>><i> - communications (mailing-lists, mail server) +</I>><i> - documentation (Wiki, Bugzilla) +</I>><i> - a specific code repository (not related to the build system) +</I>><i> for adm and/or one dedicated to organization (paperwork, reports, +</I>><i> constitution, etc.) +</I>><i> + Web hosts (www, blog, planet, forums, security notifs, etc.) +</I>><i> + core for building the distribution +</I>><i> - code repo +</I>><i> - buildsystem +</I>><i> - translation tools +</I>><i> - other? +</I>><i> + core for distribution software +</I>><i> - primary mirror +</I>><i> + other? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> B. based on these functional chunks, for each, could you: +</I>><i> * document what is needed for them: storage, bandwidth, what it +</I>><i> represent in full hardware today, what it should grow to. Goals are: +</I>><i> - to have a clear idea of how much it represents/costs: today, or +</I>><i> if we would move to other hosting solutions (paid or not, hardware or +</I>><i> virtual); +</I>><i> - to know how much we need to budget in security for these services; +</I>><i> - to know what our options (and needs) are for migrating some +</I>><i> services to an architecture or a paid solution that would improve +</I>><i> their availability (and accessibility in case of failure). +</I> +so basically, if I take the price from OVH ( as they have a lot of +choices and are rather cheap ) : + +- alamut would cost around 84 e per month at ovh.fr. That's the closest +server we can find in their offer. + +- valstar has much more processors, ( 16 core ) and less ram, so let's +evaluate this at 100e to 110e per month ( processor are more expensive +than memory ) + +- ecosse would be around the same as alamut, but there is less ram so 70 +to 80 euros per month + +- jonund has more processor so let's say too around 100 to 110e per +month. + +- fiona would like be 30 to 40 euros per month, given the price of +Kimsufi ( cheaper servers from OVH ) + +- I cannot connect to sukuc from my bastion, so I do not know, but since +that's a brand new server, let's say 80e per month. + +As we cannot rent arm boards, let's assume that we will rent the space +to host them. + +Housing can be found in Paris for 300e : +<A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-housing-dedirack.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-housing-dedirack.xhtml</A> + +since that's too much space for 2 arm board, I found a cheaper +alternative : +<A HREF="https://www.ovh.com/fr/housing/location_baie_1_a_3U.xml">https://www.ovh.com/fr/housing/location_baie_1_a_3U.xml</A> +99e + +That make around 570 to 600 euros per month, for replacing the free +hosting in LO with paid server, hosting them on one of the cheapest +providers in the world. And for this price, we have of course no SSD on +the builder ( there is some offer with small SSD, count 10 euros more +per month and per server ) etc. + +If we want to just host them in Paris, I think we can have for 600 euros +per month, just for the housing, since we would use more than 3U ( I do +not know exactly how much ). + +People can feel free to redo the cost analysis on amazon EC2 or +rackspace, I was not able to understand how much would alamut cost at +rackspace ( not even if that's even possible to have a server where we +are in charge ), and amazon ec2 pricing is to hosting what java is to my +abacus. + +And for being complete, I also searched random hosters around the +world : + +I found this +<A HREF="http://www.razorservers.com/solutions/dedicated-servers/pricing/">http://www.razorservers.com/solutions/dedicated-servers/pricing/</A> +so a server with the same spec as alamut is around 200$ for a more +classic provider. + +I found this +<A HREF="http://www.server4you.com/root-server/server-details.php?products=3">http://www.server4you.com/root-server/server-details.php?products=3</A> +would make 85$ ( since there is setup fee for each month ). Server4you +is more like OVh. + +and several others where the price is more around 150$ than 100$. + +And of course, most of them have metered network connections that would +maybe not be suitable for something like valstar, who act as a primary +mirror. For reference, since we have started the server : + +RX bytes:453228974131 (422.1 GiB) +TX bytes:9311461347504 (8.4 TiB) + +Uptime is 60 days. +That's around 4 T per month of transfert. + +That's for alamut, to compare : +RX bytes:30792994686 (28.6 GiB) +TX bytes:215624995862 (200.8 GiB) + +While hosters often propose "unlimited transfer", most don't, and most +use unlimited in the same way that phone providers do. So we need to be +wary on this point if we want to go further in the cost analysis. + +><i> C. various questions: +</I>><i> * could both above documentation (A and B) be maintained through changes; +</I> +That depend on how they will be done, but I do not foresee someone +volunteering for that, and since puppet informations are not sufficient +to express that in a automated manner ( there is support for graphing +deps between modules but not inter servers ), I doubt to see it being +written soon. + +Nagios do support doing some form of graphs, but we already have a +working monitoring system, and there is some more important stuff to do +before changing it ( for example, making sure that the current one is +read by people by reducing the amount of crap sent on the ml, and this +would requires someone fixing #4591, among others ) + +><i> * would it be possible to have the systems hosting our services to +</I>><i> have a prefix in their fqdn with the city/country they are located in? +</I>><i> Goal: being more explicit about where a service is located at this +</I>><i> time, so that a $ host www.mageia.org can answer me something like +</I>><i> champagne.paris.fr.mageia.org - for instance. I don't mean to change +</I>><i> all that, but I'm wondering about the opportunity. +</I> +What problem would it solve ? + +The grouping of servers is already visible on xymon.mageia.org : +<A HREF="http://xymon.mageia.org/xymon/servers/servers.html">http://xymon.mageia.org/xymon/servers/servers.html</A> + +I pondered on adding support this in puppet for that, but in the end, I +didn't found any good reason to do that for now ( would help if we have +enough server, to setup ntp based on d-c, bastion server acl, etc, but +we are not there yet ). + +><i> * what do you think about maintaining a separate blog (for +</I>><i> opening/closing tickets + a global summary of what xymon provides +</I>><i> already) under status.mageia.org (or maybe a different domain, for +</I>><i> that matter)? (something similar to status.twitter.com) +</I> +Again, that solve none of our problems at all. + +That solve a problem for a startup when they want to say "we care about +our customer, we give access to some form of monitoring", but we do +already give full access to our monitoring, so that would be redundant. + +Now, maybe the current access is not nice enough, and I am sure we can +do some css work to enhance that, but as a aesthetic issue, I would not +make this a priority. + +And I have seen no one saying that the current blog is not enough. If +people do not read it, they will not read another web site. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004356.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004359.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4357">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4357">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4357">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4357">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004358.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004358.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..aa01bc0b0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004358.html @@ -0,0 +1,166 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%09costs&In-Reply-To=%3C20120402154903.GX21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004376.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004362.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%09costs&In-Reply-To=%3C20120402154903.GX21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Apr 2 17:49:03 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004376.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004362.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4358">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4358">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4358">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4358">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, 02 Apr 2012, Romain d'Alverny wrote: + +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> following past week-end incident, and I know that there are already +</I>><i> some reflexions and discussions about that, I'm posting the following +</I>><i> questions/needs, with my treasurer/board hat; some of these may +</I>><i> already have answers, so please just link me to them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It comes down to: +</I>><i> - board needs to have an up-to-date view of how much our +</I>><i> infrastructure costs, and would cost in different setups; and this, +</I>><i> split in separate, functional chunks; +</I>><i> - how can we change our setup to: 1) reduce the impact of having one +</I>><i> chunk (here a faulty RJ45 in Marseille) shut down so much of the +</I>><i> project for such a long time and 2) have a quick report, automatic +</I>><i> about this (not only for sysadmin, but for all users of our +</I>><i> infrastructure). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So here is how I would put it: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A. could you, as sysadmin, draw (graphically) the dependencies +</I>><i> between services, at a certain functional scale + their current +</I>><i> location/host; +</I>><i> * goal: have an overview of Mageia infrastructure, from the outside +</I>><i> of sysadmin team (and yes, again, that is needed); +</I>><i> * can we get it produced from the puppet conf? => the goal being +</I>><i> for now to have such a visual overview first, not to have it +</I>><i> automated. +</I>><i> * the function blocks I can think of would be (but add/split/fix +</I>><i> accordingly): +</I>><i> + core for communication & doc: +</I>><i> - user accounts (LDAP, identity.m.o) +</I>><i> - communications (mailing-lists, mail server) +</I>><i> - documentation (Wiki, Bugzilla) +</I>><i> - a specific code repository (not related to the build system) +</I>><i> for adm and/or one dedicated to organization (paperwork, reports, +</I>><i> constitution, etc.) +</I>><i> + Web hosts (www, blog, planet, forums, security notifs, etc.) +</I>><i> + core for building the distribution +</I>><i> - code repo +</I>><i> - buildsystem +</I>><i> - translation tools +</I>><i> - other? +</I>><i> + core for distribution software +</I>><i> - primary mirror +</I>><i> + other? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> B. based on these functional chunks, for each, could you: +</I>><i> * document what is needed for them: storage, bandwidth, what it +</I>><i> represent in full hardware today, what it should grow to. Goals are: +</I>><i> - to have a clear idea of how much it represents/costs: today, or +</I>><i> if we would move to other hosting solutions (paid or not, hardware or +</I>><i> virtual); +</I>><i> - to know how much we need to budget in security for these services; +</I>><i> - to know what our options (and needs) are for migrating some +</I>><i> services to an architecture or a paid solution that would improve +</I>><i> their availability (and accessibility in case of failure). +</I> +Using paid hosting will not remove problems like bad RJ45 or switch +that stop working. If we want good availability, we need more servers +in different places. + +I think it could help to have a few other servers in a different +datacenter, and duplicate services when it is easy to do (like ldap, +mirrors list, etc ...). In other cases like build system scheduler / +main mirror however, it's difficult to duplicate without conflicts +between the different servers, and cannot be done in a few minutes (or +hours), so I think we should migrate only in case of very long outage +(when we know that it will take more than a few days). Having a few +more servers available would help if we need to migrate some things in +case of big problem on one of the server. + +><i> C. various questions: +</I>><i> * could both above documentation (A and B) be maintained through changes; +</I>><i> * would it be possible to have the systems hosting our services to +</I>><i> have a prefix in their fqdn with the city/country they are located in? +</I>><i> Goal: being more explicit about where a service is located at this +</I>><i> time, so that a $ host www.mageia.org can answer me something like +</I>><i> champagne.paris.fr.mageia.org - for instance. I don't mean to change +</I>><i> all that, but I'm wondering about the opportunity. +</I> +I don't think having location of servers in the hostname is very useful. +It's not very difficult for someone interested to know the location of a +server. + +><i> * what do you think about maintaining a separate blog (for +</I>><i> opening/closing tickets + a global summary of what xymon provides +</I>><i> already) under status.mageia.org (or maybe a different domain, for +</I>><i> that matter)? (something similar to status.twitter.com) +</I> +We are already adding posts on official blog, and mails on mailling +list in case of problem, so what would be the use of an other separate +blog for this ? + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004376.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004362.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4358">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4358">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4358">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4358">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004359.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004359.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..621238384 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004359.html @@ -0,0 +1,121 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%20costs&In-Reply-To=%3CCANa9xwvYvwccc0cAi2DsxmJwdvDE59tQJVMPG-1hRPprTNQN%2BA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004357.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004366.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%20costs&In-Reply-To=%3CCANa9xwvYvwccc0cAi2DsxmJwdvDE59tQJVMPG-1hRPprTNQN%2BA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Apr 2 18:02:48 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004357.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004366.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4359">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4359">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4359">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4359">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 16:59, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> Le lundi 02 avril 2012 à 15:23 +0200, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +</I>><i> That's a rather odd question, since with your treasurer hat, you should +</I>><i> have all infos, so I do not really see what we can answer to that. +</I> +If I ask, it's that I don't. *\o/* + +And it would greatly appreciated that sysadmin decipher these things +for a more accessible understanding of the infrastructure, not only +for me, but for other future people that may not have your technical +background. + +><i> The list of servers is in puppet : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/manifests/nodes/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/manifests/nodes/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> and each has some module assigned to it, take this as functional chunk. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Unfortunately, the servers are all doing more than one tasks, so +</I>><i> splitting them in functional chunks do not mean much. +</I> +Yes it does. That's exactly this other view that I'm asking for. +Because it makes sense to know what the "buildsystem" chunk/unit +costs, as a whole, in storage/bandwidth/hosting options, in comparison +with the "user accounts" one, with the "Web sites" one, with the +"mailing-lists" one, etc. so that we can consider different hosting +options for each of them. + +It makes sense too to have a dependencies graph at some level to +quickly explain/see how our infrastructure components work with each +other. + +Because, these considerations need to be understood/thought out/taken +also by people that are _not_ sysadmins, such as persons that may +focus on organizing our financial resources or contacts or donations +for that end. + +Think about this as "enabling other community members to grasp what it +takes to make Mageia.org function and to contribute means to that +end". + +For instance, if we can have functional chunks, we may decide: + - which ones are critical (and should be moved to a solution that has +the greatest possible availability): for instance LDAP, identity, +mailing-lists, www, blogs; + - which ones may more safely shutdown without shutting down other +independent services from a functional point of view; (for instance, +buildsystem could go down without injuring the code repository itself, +or the mailing-lists; code repositories may shut down too, if a later, +read-only copy is available somewhere else + - which ones may be redundant and how. + +Yes, of course, some systems already split up like this (www, blog, +ldap are not in Marseille here). But apart from sysadmin, no one +knows. No one knows either what are the plans. + +Splitting by function, dependency seems a good way to know what the +system does, and how we can lay it out, not in one or two data +centers, but more globally. + +Thanks for your figures, I'll start compiling bits, but that's just a start. +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004357.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004366.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4359">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4359">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4359">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4359">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004360.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004360.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..991dac5cf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004360.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? 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If we want good availability, we need more servers +</I>><i> in different places. +</I> +In paid hosting, (physical) server and link failure is to be directly +handled by people that have a financial incentive to have it work. I +expect (but may be wrong) that the availability will be higher than +what we have today, and that it is still affordable for _some_ +services. It's not about going full speed to paid services or to spend +unnecessarily money, it's about using what we can (it includes money) +to improve our systems availability. + +The point is that: I don't know and I don't have the data to get an +idea about that; and I'm not even sure the data needed is compiled +somewhere at this time. And I suspect I'm not alone in this case. If I +don't ask, someone else will later. Or even worse than that, won't +dare to ask. + +That's why I'm asking for this for those two purposes: explaining more +how it works, understanding how it could work. + - functional split list => your skills/job + - needs per functional unit => same + - dependencies between units => same [1] + - cost per unit in different contexts => can be spread around + +And yes, it may be too expensive. Or it may not. But I suspect we +don't know, or it's not obvious enough. On the other hand, having one, +or several server downtime like this for 2/3 days also costs a lot to +the project (loss of time, and reputation shift). + +><i> I think it could help to have a few other servers in a different +</I>><i> datacenter, and duplicate services when it is easy to do (like ldap, +</I>><i> mirrors list, etc ...). In other cases like build system scheduler / +</I>><i> main mirror however, it's difficult to duplicate without conflicts +</I>><i> between the different servers, and cannot be done in a few minutes (or +</I>><i> hours), so I think we should migrate only in case of very long outage +</I>><i> (when we know that it will take more than a few days). Having a few +</I>><i> more servers available would help if we need to migrate some things in +</I>><i> case of big problem on one of the server. +</I> +Yes. + +>><i>   * would it be possible to have the systems hosting our services to +</I>>><i> have a prefix in their fqdn with the city/country they are located in? [...] +</I>>><i>   * what do you think about maintaining a separate blog [...] +</I>><i> We are already adding posts on official blog, and mails on mailling +</I>><i> list in case of problem, so what would be the use of an other separate +</I>><i> blog for this ? +</I> +Let's forget about these two. + +[1] take the attached .dot file; it's rough, very incomplete (missing +subsystems, roles), probably incorrect, but it gives an idea of what +are the nodes that need the maximum level of availability, and the +ones that should not bother from each other, and were some decoupling +could be made. You could even add a layer of who is using/responsible +for what, or of where the system are. 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Would that be ok, or +should we keep this separate from pkgcpan, and use a different vhost ? + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004368.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004364.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4363">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4363">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4363">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4363">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004364.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004364.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4bd351e1d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004364.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120402174145.GO29683%40mongueurs.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004363.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004386.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!</H1> + <B>Jerome Quelin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120402174145.GO29683%40mongueurs.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!">jquelin at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Apr 2 19:41:48 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004363.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004386.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4364">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4364">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4364">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4364">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 12/04/02 19:09 +0200, nicolas vigier wrote: +><i> magpie has been submitted to infra_1 repository, so it's now available +</I>><i> to install on Mageia servers. +</I> + thanks! + +><i> I think we can make the website available at <A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/</A> +</I>><i> (or an other directory name instead of "stats"). Would that be ok, or +</I>><i> should we keep this separate from pkgcpan, and use a different vhost ? +</I> +it can definitely be on the same vhost, since data is taken from +pkgcpan. as said, magpie will remove the whole directory to create the +new one, so nothing else should be in the same directory. + +thanks, +jérôme +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004363.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004386.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4364">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4364">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4364">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4364">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004365.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004365.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e50504d12 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004365.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20is%20the%20svn%20server%20down%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201204021957.23706.alien%40rmail.be%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004361.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004367.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down?</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20is%20the%20svn%20server%20down%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201204021957.23706.alien%40rmail.be%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down?">alien at rmail.be + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Apr 2 19:57:23 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004361.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004367.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4365">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4365">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4365">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4365">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op maandag 02 april 2012 18:30:04 schreef nicolas vigier: +><i> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012, Maarten Vanraes wrote: +</I>><i> > Op maandag 02 april 2012 09:57:43 schreef Thierry Vignaud: +</I>><i> > > On 31 March 2012 18:16, Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">alien at rmail.be</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > > > i think you're looking for distributed trunking? ie: having 2 cables +</I>><i> > > > in two separate switches, so if a switch fails, it stays working... +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > but those switches are quite expensive, iinm at least 2kEUR/switch +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > non-distributed trunking is alot cheaper, but that just means half +</I>><i> > > > the servers are down. +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > or we could just not bond and have 2 different networks over such +</I>><i> > > > servers. that also works for redundancy, but on l3 instead of l2 and +</I>><i> > > > alot cheaper... +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > At least: +</I>><i> > > 1) this should be monitored +</I>><i> > > 2) an alarm should be sent to this ml on warning (at least on critical) +</I>><i> > > _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> > > Mageia-sysadm mailing list +</I>><i> > > <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">Mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> > > <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm</A> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > actually, i'd be nice to have a warning/critical list available above the +</I>><i> > list of packages at pkgsubmit :-) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Saying at the top of the pkgsubmit page that pkgsubmit is unreachable ? +</I> +well, i would think that there's other monitoring warnings/criticals rather +than only failures regarding pkgsubmit... + +but i do see your point. :-) + +my point was just that if there's something wrong, people likely check there +or pkgsubmit just isn't reachable. + +btw: the bad cable, was that an uplink one? you can also ask for a second +patch in that case. 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+The accounting is on the bank account, and despites requiring searching, it +was published. + +If iyou need information on the hardware we got at the beggining, I can send +on this list a partial history of where +does every piece of hardware come from, if that what you need, but I prefer to +be sure that's really what you need before spending a afternoon on this. + +When they were setup, I proposed to deploy GLPI to have a inventory being done +automatically, but I was being told that a hand made should be sufficient, so I didn't. +And the hand made one didn't appear. + +We can publish the yaml file from puppet, that can give enough information for someone +wanting a inventory now, with mac address, bios information, serial number, memory, etc. +Or just run some for loop with lshw and push it somewhere, so people can grasp what we +have for hardware. + +Or deploy glpi/fusion-inventory/etc, since they are packaged, if that's also the type +of information you need. + +><i> And it would greatly appreciated that sysadmin decipher these things +</I>><i> for a more accessible understanding of the infrastructure, not only +</I>><i> for me, but for other future people that may not have your technical +</I>><i> background. +</I> +I still do not know what answer. +Basically : + +Ecosse and jonund are purely for the buildsystem. +<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/manifests/nodes/ecosse.pp?revision=2708&view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/manifests/nodes/ecosse.pp?revision=2708&view=markup</A> + + +Alamut is where all our web applications are running. +See the zone file, as this reflect exactly what is running where : +<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/deployment/dns/templates/mageia.org.zone?revision=2456&view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/deployment/dns/templates/mageia.org.zone?revision=2456&view=markup</A> + +the only exception are blog and planet, on krampouezh and champagne. +( one with the mysql db, the other one with application = + +Champagne also hold most of the static websites. + +mailling list are on alamut too. +postgresql is on alamut, so is the computing of our mail aliases +( ie, postfix + spamassassin, etc ) + + +Valstar is controling the buildsystem ( job dispatch ), +serve as puppetmaster, host git, svn and the ldap master. + + +So the buildsystem is roughly 3 servers + arm board, until we start to use postgresql in +which case we would have to take alamut in account. + +We can also take rabbit in account for the iso production. + +><i> > The list of servers is in puppet : +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/manifests/nodes/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/manifests/nodes/</A> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > and each has some module assigned to it, take this as functional chunk. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Unfortunately, the servers are all doing more than one tasks, so +</I>><i> > splitting them in functional chunks do not mean much. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes it does. That's exactly this other view that I'm asking for. +</I>><i> Because it makes sense to know what the "buildsystem" chunk/unit +</I>><i> costs, as a whole, in storage/bandwidth/hosting options, in comparison +</I>><i> with the "user accounts" one, with the "Web sites" one, with the +</I>><i> "mailing-lists" one, etc. so that we can consider different hosting +</I>><i> options for each of them. +</I> +We do not have accounting per chunk so the bandwidth would be aggregated. +We can add accounting, but that would requires some iptables trick, and +we should let it run for 1 month to have proper data. + +For the housing, we need to have the size of each server ( I can provides +pictures of each server if someone want to count ) and the power consumption, +and I do not know how to get this. + +Storage is the only thing we can get. +svn is 180 Go ( 82 on alamut, ie without the svn for binary ) +distrib tree is 550 Go +bin repo is 100 Go + +the whole postgresql setup si 1 Go +sympa archives are 5.8 Go + +the rest likely do not need to be counted for storage. + +And for the spec of the server, see start of this mail. + +><i> It makes sense too to have a dependencies graph at some level to +</I>><i> quickly explain/see how our infrastructure components work with each +</I>><i> other. +</I> +We do have done a not so bad job of mutualisation, so for example, +both bugzilla and sympa use the same ldap and the same postgresql. + +Splitting them would mean to have more work to do ( the current setup need some +work to use more than a single sql server, for example, but could be done, there +is some hook for that ) + +><i> Because, these considerations need to be understood/thought out/taken +</I>><i> also by people that are _not_ sysadmins, such as persons that may +</I>><i> focus on organizing our financial resources or contacts or donations +</I>><i> for that end. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Think about this as "enabling other community members to grasp what it +</I>><i> takes to make Mageia.org function and to contribute means to that +</I>><i> end". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For instance, if we can have functional chunks, we may decide: +</I>><i> - which ones are critical (and should be moved to a solution that has +</I>><i> the greatest possible availability): for instance LDAP, identity, +</I>><i> mailing-lists, www, blogs; +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - which ones may more safely shutdown without shutting down other +</I>><i> independent services from a functional point of view; (for instance, +</I>><i> buildsystem could go down without injuring the code repository itself, +</I>><i> or the mailing-lists; code repositories may shut down too, if a later, +</I>><i> read-only copy is available somewhere else +</I>><i> - which ones may be redundant and how. +</I> +So on the redundancy topic, there is 2 parts : +- redundant hardware ( RAID, double power, double ethernet card, etc ) +- redundant software + +For the hardware part, we have several limitation, most notable one being +we do not have spare servers, nor warranty on most of them. And since they are far +away, the only documentation is photos I took that are currently on my phone. +( cause we didn't had time to do everything that was planned last time and finished just in +time ). + +For the software part, most services would require a way to have a redundant file system. +More than half of our services depend on a single filesystem. +- Puppetmaster depend on a sqlite database to work ( plan is to migrate to postgresql +sooner or later, as sqlite do not scale ). So for now, we cannot make it redundant. +- identity depend on ldap write access, and we didn't set it up this way ( ie, there is 1 single master ) +- epoll depend on FS, and postgresql +- bugzilla depend on FS ( for attachements ), and postgresql (mostly R/W) +- transifex depend on FS ( for file ), and postgresql (R/W) +- buildsystem depend on FS ( for the queing of jobs ), but builders are redundants +- svn and git depend on a FS ( but there is a replica on alamut for viewvc ). +- viewvc can be made redundant without trouble +- planet and blog depend on FS ( for pictures, cache ) and mysql. Planet can however +be made redundant quite easily. +- mga::mirrors depend on postgresql, but readonly, so could be made redundant without trouble +- sympa depend on FS and postgresql, and read/write +- postfix can be made redundant, and is already ( could be improved however ) +- xymon depend on FS +- mediawiki depend on FS (attachement ) and postgresql ( R/W ) +- youri report depend on postgresql, and is stateless so can be started from scratch again +- pkgcpan is stateless too, so ca be moved somewhere else fast, like most static website +( hugs, releases, www, static ) +- dns is fully redundant and can be deployed fast, provided puppetmaster is not impacted +- main mirror can be duplicated, that's the goal of a mirror, but would requires contacting several people +- maintdb depend on FS + +So we can : +- make mga::mirrors redundant ( would be a good idea in fact ) + - requires a redundant setup for postgresql + - round robin DNS + - make sure urpmi/drakx work fine in case of failure + +- make planet and viewvc redundant. Not so useful IMHO + +- improve postfix redundancy ( ie letting krampouezh distribute mail to aliases ) + - would requires a small tweak on postfix module, but it currently a bit messy + +- make puppetmaster scalable and redundant + - need someone to fix thin, and then I can move sqlite to postgresql using + some ruby script + +- improve identity/catdap/ldap setup to have it work in case of problem ( + - applications should be tested for proper failover + - ldap should be set in a multi master setup + +but again, not sure if identity is the most important stuff to improve, and ldap +is already doubled, at least as readonly. + +And for everything that depend on FS, the problem is simple : +- if the filesystem is toast, we cannot do much, except restore from backups +- if we want to make them redundant, we need to make the FS redundant and shared, +and make sure the software support it. For example, i am not sure that svn would +work if the repository was shared over nfs ( maybe that changed ). Same goes for +sqlite. + +There is various way of doing this. We can either do it at the filesystem level +( lustre, gfs, ocfs2, gluster ), or export on nfs with some NAS ( like netapp ). +Solution on the hardware level are expensive. Solution on the file system level +can be divided in 2 categoresy : +- those I do not know +- those where people told me they are cra^W^W have a lot of potential to be improved + +As a side note, I doubt we ship required userspace tools in Mageia for the 4 one I gave. + +One other solution would be to work on fast failure recovery, ie be able to reinstall a server fast +( that's half done by puppet, backup restoration should be the other half ). + +Or to work in a way that would be less centralized ( for example and for the buildsystem, +using git instead of svn for packages, using a more scalable system than the current one, +for example, something based on amqp with redundant queues, etc ). +There is distributed bugtracker ( ditz, SD, bugs everywhere, see <A HREF="https://lwn.net/Articles/281849/">https://lwn.net/Articles/281849/</A> ), +there is distributed wiki ( mostly based on git, bzr ), so we could have a different set of services +that would work fine in case of failure. + +><i> Yes, of course, some systems already split up like this (www, blog, +</I>><i> ldap are not in Marseille here). But apart from sysadmin, no one +</I>><i> knows. No one knows either what are the plans. +</I> +Because no one took the time to even search, or to post on the mailling list, +which is sad. + +All current solutions for redundant setup I can think of would requires more +than hardware, so no matter how long I explain the current setup, this would +unfortunately still requires someone with enough sysadmin skills to finish +the job. + +Hence the proposal <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/SummerOfCode2012#Ease_the_integration_of_new_sysadmins_.28draft.29">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/SummerOfCode2012#Ease_the_integration_of_new_sysadmins_.28draft.29</A> + + +><i> Splitting by function, dependency seems a good way to know what the +</I>><i> system does, and how we can lay it out, not in one or two data +</I>><i> centers, but more globally. +</I> +I do not say that's not a good idea to document ( I started to write +various SOP on the wiki ), just that I fear that no one will +be motivated to do it and to keep it up to date, especially for such a huge +document. + +-- +Michael Scherer +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004359.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004374.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4366">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4366">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4366">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4366">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004367.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004367.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ca8aee6fe --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004367.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20is%20the%20svn%20server%20down%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20120402191853.GB11367%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004365.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004373.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down?</H1> + <B>Michael scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20is%20the%20svn%20server%20down%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20120402191853.GB11367%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Apr 2 21:18:53 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004365.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004373.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4367">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4367">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4367">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4367">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 07:57:23PM +0200, Maarten Vanraes wrote: + +><i> well, i would think that there's other monitoring warnings/criticals rather +</I>><i> than only failures regarding pkgsubmit... +</I> +Then people should look at xymon. +( <A HREF="http://xymon.mageia.org/">http://xymon.mageia.org/</A> ). + +If the smiley is happy, then it work. If it is unhappy, it doesn't work. +There is also color code ( red == not working, green == working ) +for non colourblind people. Even a packager could understand them without +much training. + +><i> btw: the bad cable, was that an uplink one? you can also ask for a second +</I>><i> patch in that case. (but i'm sure you know) +</I> +Unfortunately, our switch has only one uplink ( and no free port at all ). +And is non manageable ( but I will ask for that for the zarb.org switch, once +we find how to manage ) + +And the main problem is that each time something break, it break : +- during the night +- on friday during the night +- on friday during the night before a 2 week holidays + +-- +Michael Scherer +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004365.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004373.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4367">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4367">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4367">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4367">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004368.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004368.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..accfe5f63 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004368.html @@ -0,0 +1,147 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%09costs&In-Reply-To=%3C20120402194156.GC21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004362.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004363.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%09costs&In-Reply-To=%3C20120402194156.GC21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Apr 2 21:41:56 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004362.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004363.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4368">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4368">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4368">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4368">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, 02 Apr 2012, Romain d'Alverny wrote: + +><i> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 17:49, nicolas vigier <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > Using paid hosting will not remove problems like bad RJ45 or switch +</I>><i> > that stop working. If we want good availability, we need more servers +</I>><i> > in different places. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In paid hosting, (physical) server and link failure is to be directly +</I>><i> handled by people that have a financial incentive to have it work. I +</I>><i> expect (but may be wrong) that the availability will be higher than +</I>><i> what we have today, and that it is still affordable for _some_ +</I>><i> services. It's not about going full speed to paid services or to spend +</I>><i> unnecessarily money, it's about using what we can (it includes money) +</I>><i> to improve our systems availability. +</I> +It's doesn't matter that it's paid hosting or not, if a switch stop +working on friday evening, and if there's nobody available to go to the +datacenter to replace it, then everything will be offline until one of +us has time to go to the datacenter. We can pay very expensive datacenter +hosting, but they won't replace our switch if it stops working. + +We can also pay expensive hosting in datacenter and have power outage, +network problems because of a flood or other reason, air-conditioning +problems, etc ... + +And we can also pay expensive hosting at EC2 and have 2 days downtime : +<A HREF="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/226327/what_your_business_can_learn_from_the_amazon_cloud_outage.html">http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/226327/what_your_business_can_learn_from_the_amazon_cloud_outage.html</A> + +In 1 year we had only one major unexpected downtime on our servers, +because of a bad network cable, on friday evening, and hopefully this +kind of problem does not happen very often. Before this we had more +downtimes on the servers hosted at gandi, because of problems on their +storage servers for all their customers. + +><i> +</I>><i> The point is that: I don't know and I don't have the data to get an +</I>><i> idea about that; and I'm not even sure the data needed is compiled +</I>><i> somewhere at this time. And I suspect I'm not alone in this case. If I +</I>><i> don't ask, someone else will later. Or even worse than that, won't +</I>><i> dare to ask. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's why I'm asking for this for those two purposes: explaining more +</I>><i> how it works, understanding how it could work. +</I>><i> - functional split list => your skills/job +</I>><i> - needs per functional unit => same +</I>><i> - dependencies between units => same [1] +</I>><i> - cost per unit in different contexts => can be spread around +</I> +We don't have a lot of servers, so no need for complex dependency graph +to see that all of the servers are critical, and downtime of any of the +server will cause problems somewhere. If we want to reduce the risk of +having a lot of services down at the same time, then we need more +servers, hosted in different places. + +><i> +</I>><i> And yes, it may be too expensive. Or it may not. But I suspect we +</I>><i> don't know, or it's not obvious enough. On the other hand, having one, +</I>><i> or several server downtime like this for 2/3 days also costs a lot to +</I>><i> the project (loss of time, and reputation shift). +</I> +If we can't afford a 2 days downtime, then we should probably stop +everything now and do something else. + +Projects with more money and more machines than us also have unexpected +server downtime. + +Fedora had almost 1 day of downtime on their buildsystem in december : +<A HREF="http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2011-December/000867.html">http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2011-December/000867.html</A> +And if we read their mailing list archives we can see 2 hours on many +services in january 2012, 1 hour for build system in febuary 2012, 2 hours +in january 2012, etc ... + +In april 2010 Debian had their buildd.debian.org server down on friday +and restored on monday, wiki.debian.org for one day, forums.debian.org +for a few days : +<A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2010/04/msg00001.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2010/04/msg00001.html</A> +wiki down for an unknow time in january 2010 : +<A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2010/01/msg00001.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2010/01/msg00001.html</A> +ftp-master in january 2011: +<A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2011/01/msg00000.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2011/01/msg00000.html</A> + +And I think it's the same for most projects. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004362.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004363.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! 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Have 2 redundant ldap server +</I>><i> ( we already do it ), have 2 redundant network connection. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course, the downside is that it cost twice the price ( at least ), +</I>><i> and it is more complex. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Another solution is to try to increase the MTRR. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > 2) have a quick report, automatic +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > about this (not only for sysadmin, but for all users of our +</I>><i> > infrastructure). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I do think for me that the current report of xymon are sufficient. +</I> +There is some room for enhancements, but that requires a bit more knowledge +regarding real (physical) dependencies than I have at present. + +I can maybe add some examples which don't require that knowledge, so others +can add some more. + +><i> > So here is how I would put it: +</I>><i> > A. could you, as sysadmin, draw (graphically) the dependencies +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > between services, at a certain functional scale + their current +</I>><i> > location/host; +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > * goal: have an overview of Mageia infrastructure, from the outside +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > of sysadmin team (and yes, again, that is needed); +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > * can we get it produced from the puppet conf? => the goal being +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > for now to have such a visual overview first, not to have it +</I>><i> > automated. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > * the function blocks I can think of would be (but add/split/fix +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > accordingly): +</I>><i> > + core for communication & doc: +</I>><i> > - user accounts (LDAP, identity.m.o) +</I>><i> > - communications (mailing-lists, mail server) +</I>><i> > - documentation (Wiki, Bugzilla) +</I>><i> > - a specific code repository (not related to the build system) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > for adm and/or one dedicated to organization (paperwork, reports, +</I>><i> > constitution, etc.) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > + Web hosts (www, blog, planet, forums, security notifs, etc.) +</I>><i> > + core for building the distribution +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > - code repo +</I>><i> > - buildsystem +</I>><i> > - translation tools +</I>><i> > - other? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > + core for distribution software +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > - primary mirror +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > + other? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > B. based on these functional chunks, for each, could you: +</I>><i> > * document what is needed for them: storage, bandwidth, what it +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > represent in full hardware today, what it should grow to. Goals are: +</I>><i> > - to have a clear idea of how much it represents/costs: today, or +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > if we would move to other hosting solutions (paid or not, hardware or +</I>><i> > virtual); +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > - to know how much we need to budget in security for these services; +</I>><i> > - to know what our options (and needs) are for migrating some +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > services to an architecture or a paid solution that would improve +</I>><i> > their availability (and accessibility in case of failure). +</I>><i> +</I> +Note that moving some, or duplication some services may be significantly more +than twice the current cost, taking into account 'in-network' or 'in-cloud' +traffic costs vs. transit to another cloud/network. + +><i> so basically, if I take the price from OVH ( as they have a lot of +</I>><i> choices and are rather cheap ) : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - alamut would cost around 84 e per month at ovh.fr. That's the closest +</I>><i> server we can find in their offer. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - valstar has much more processors, ( 16 core ) and less ram, so let's +</I>><i> evaluate this at 100e to 110e per month ( processor are more expensive +</I>><i> than memory ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - ecosse would be around the same as alamut, but there is less ram so 70 +</I>><i> to 80 euros per month +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - jonund has more processor so let's say too around 100 to 110e per +</I>><i> month. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - fiona would like be 30 to 40 euros per month, given the price of +</I>><i> Kimsufi ( cheaper servers from OVH ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - I cannot connect to sukuc from my bastion, so I do not know, but since +</I>><i> that's a brand new server, let's say 80e per month. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As we cannot rent arm boards, let's assume that we will rent the space +</I>><i> to host them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Housing can be found in Paris for 300e : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-housing-dedirack.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-housing-dedirack.xhtml</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> since that's too much space for 2 arm board, I found a cheaper +</I>><i> alternative : +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.ovh.com/fr/housing/location_baie_1_a_3U.xml">https://www.ovh.com/fr/housing/location_baie_1_a_3U.xml</A> +</I>><i> 99e +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That make around 570 to 600 euros per month, for replacing the free +</I>><i> hosting in LO with paid server, hosting them on one of the cheapest +</I>><i> providers in the world. And for this price, we have of course no SSD on +</I>><i> the builder ( there is some offer with small SSD, count 10 euros more +</I>><i> per month and per server ) etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If we want to just host them in Paris, I think we can have for 600 euros +</I>><i> per month, just for the housing, since we would use more than 3U ( I do +</I>><i> not know exactly how much ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> People can feel free to redo the cost analysis on amazon EC2 or +</I>><i> rackspace, I was not able to understand how much would alamut cost at +</I>><i> rackspace ( not even if that's even possible to have a server where we +</I>><i> are in charge ), and amazon ec2 pricing is to hosting what java is to my +</I>><i> abacus. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And for being complete, I also searched random hosters around the +</I>><i> world : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I found this +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.razorservers.com/solutions/dedicated-servers/pricing/">http://www.razorservers.com/solutions/dedicated-servers/pricing/</A> +</I>><i> so a server with the same spec as alamut is around 200$ for a more +</I>><i> classic provider. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I found this +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.server4you.com/root-server/server-details.php?products=3">http://www.server4you.com/root-server/server-details.php?products=3</A> +</I>><i> would make 85$ ( since there is setup fee for each month ). Server4you +</I>><i> is more like OVh. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> and several others where the price is more around 150$ than 100$. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And of course, most of them have metered network connections that would +</I>><i> maybe not be suitable for something like valstar, who act as a primary +</I>><i> mirror. For reference, since we have started the server : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> RX bytes:453228974131 (422.1 GiB) +</I>><i> TX bytes:9311461347504 (8.4 TiB) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Uptime is 60 days. +</I>><i> That's around 4 T per month of transfert. +</I> +How much of this is internal to the hosting provider? + +><i> +</I>><i> That's for alamut, to compare : +</I>><i> RX bytes:30792994686 (28.6 GiB) +</I>><i> TX bytes:215624995862 (200.8 GiB) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> While hosters often propose "unlimited transfer", most don't, and most +</I>><i> use unlimited in the same way that phone providers do. So we need to be +</I>><i> wary on this point if we want to go further in the cost analysis. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > C. various questions: +</I>><i> > * could both above documentation (A and B) be maintained through +</I>><i> > changes; +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That depend on how they will be done, but I do not foresee someone +</I>><i> volunteering for that, and since puppet informations are not sufficient +</I>><i> to express that in a automated manner ( there is support for graphing +</I>><i> deps between modules but not inter servers ), I doubt to see it being +</I>><i> written soon. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Nagios do support doing some form of graphs, but we already have a +</I>><i> working monitoring system, and there is some more important stuff to do +</I>><i> before changing it ( for example, making sure that the current one is +</I>><i> read by people by reducing the amount of crap sent on the ml, and this +</I>><i> would requires someone fixing #4591, among others ) +</I> +"depends" notation can be used to describe the dependencies between services +(including some logical tests). I have some scripts that draw diagrams with +near-real-time status (mostly network ones, e.g. links between manageable +switches, sometimes termed 'weather maps'), which could be extended to do some +automated diagrams based on the depends notation. I would actually like to +have this at work too, but at present I really only have (work) time to work +on 'official' projects that have project managers and budgets :-(. + +><i> +</I>><i> > * would it be possible to have the systems hosting our services to +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > have a prefix in their fqdn with the city/country they are located in? +</I>><i> > Goal: being more explicit about where a service is located at this +</I>><i> > time, so that a $ host www.mageia.org can answer me something like +</I>><i> > champagne.paris.fr.mageia.org - for instance. I don't mean to change +</I>><i> > all that, but I'm wondering about the opportunity. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What problem would it solve ? +</I> +Vs. what problems would it create. Note that many mail servers or anti-spam +systems score servers negatively for mismatch in forward/reverse records, and +email RFCs forbid pointing an MX at a CNAME. + +DNS isn't supposed to be a ITIL-compliant CMDB ... + +Network engineers (mistakenly in some cases, IMHO) put reverse DNS on router +interfaces to be able to easily understand traceroutes. My opinion is that +network segments (typically following VLANs) should be named, and network +segment should be used instead of interface name for non-point-to-point links +on routers. + +><i> The grouping of servers is already visible on xymon.mageia.org : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://xymon.mageia.org/xymon/servers/servers.html">http://xymon.mageia.org/xymon/servers/servers.html</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I pondered on adding support this in puppet for that, but in the end, I +</I>><i> didn't found any good reason to do that for now ( would help if we have +</I>><i> enough server, to setup ntp based on d-c, bastion server acl, etc, but +</I>><i> we are not there yet ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > * what do you think about maintaining a separate blog (for +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > opening/closing tickets + a global summary of what xymon provides +</I>><i> > already) under status.mageia.org (or maybe a different domain, for +</I>><i> > that matter)? (something similar to status.twitter.com) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Again, that solve none of our problems at all. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That solve a problem for a startup when they want to say "we care about +</I>><i> our customer, we give access to some form of monitoring", but we do +</I>><i> already give full access to our monitoring, so that would be redundant. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now, maybe the current access is not nice enough, and I am sure we can +</I>><i> do some css work to enhance that, but as a aesthetic issue, I would not +</I>><i> make this a priority. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And I have seen no one saying that the current blog is not enough. If +</I>><i> people do not read it, they will not read another web site. +</I> +Can we decide on what problem(s) we are trying to resolve? + +A)That we should be able to know when our network connection is down? + +IMHO, the hosting provider should be monitoring this (our data center business +does this for all managed hosting customers). If the hosting provider is not +able to do that, then our options are: +1)Monitor servers in one location from servers in another, and ensure that +they can inform us without requiring the servers in the first location to be +available +2)Monitor the network interfaces etc. from inside the network, but have a non- +network notification system, such as SMS modem, or old cell-phone (Nokia 5110 +was the usual choice a few years ago). Alternatively, a 3G dongle for IP-based +access could be considered. + +(note that so far, there is minimal cost involved) + +B)Ensure that a single network connection can fail without a whole site +failing. + +Cost: 2 manageable layer 3 switches with VRRP or HSRP (Cisco), an additional +port from the provider, and their work to implement their side. Cisco 3560 is +probably the best entry-level switch for this (but I haven't consulted a CCNP +or CCIE yet ...). + +C)That we should be able to continue development of the distribution when a +site has failed? +The cost to implement this correctly/reliably is usually only justifiable for +a real-time commerce system (Bank, very high volume ecommerce site competing +with Amazon in a specific region, real-time billing system for a mobile phone +operator) + +D)That once we are aware of a failure, we are able to inform users of the +sytems of an outage. + +Beware that over-documenting things (we are doing ISO 20 000 and Business +Continuity efforts at work) do not necessarily result in a better system, they +just make sure that you have killed lots of trees making sure that someone +will be able to read (but not necessarily understand) what need to be done to +continue business in a disaster. The puppet-based config we have is superior +to what many companies have ... what we may rather need to do (if we can find +the time) is to hold some business continuity thought exercises. + +Regards, +Buchan +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004393.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004376.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4369">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4369">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4369">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4369">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004370.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004370.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a6640cad7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004370.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Noarch%20package%20missing%20on%20i586%20%28again%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F7A1CB4.8010802%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004398.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004371.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again)</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Noarch%20package%20missing%20on%20i586%20%28again%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F7A1CB4.8010802%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again)">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Apr 2 23:40:04 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004398.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004371.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4370">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4370">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4370">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4370">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi there, + +according to +<A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/obgr_seneca/dependencies.html">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/obgr_seneca/dependencies.html</A> +terminus-font is missing on i586. + +The package is nonfree and should thus be available on both architectures. +I remember the same happening before a few weeks ago. Could anyone have +a look, why that package is not available on both architectures? + +Thanks, + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004398.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004371.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4370">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4370">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4370">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4370">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004371.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004371.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0a90a6708 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004371.html @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Noarch%20package%20missing%20on%20i586%20%28again%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2BCX%2BbiBPzJOjSnPuC0TTBH%3DUbMA-kYiCgXX2josRcmo85xe5g%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004370.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004372.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again)</H1> + <B>Pascal Terjan</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Noarch%20package%20missing%20on%20i586%20%28again%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2BCX%2BbiBPzJOjSnPuC0TTBH%3DUbMA-kYiCgXX2josRcmo85xe5g%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again)">pterjan at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 3 00:30:22 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004370.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004372.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4371">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4371">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4371">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4371">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 22:40, Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>>wrote: + +><i> Hi there, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> according to <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/**cauldron/obgr_seneca/**">http://check.mageia.org/**cauldron/obgr_seneca/**</A> +</I>><i> dependencies.html<<A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/obgr_seneca/dependencies.html">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/obgr_seneca/dependencies.html</A>>terminus-font is missing on i586. +</I>><i> +</I> +Do you check often (i.e. is it recent)? + + +><i> The package is nonfree and should thus be available on both architectures. +</I>><i> +</I> +? +It is in core/release + + +><i> I remember the same happening before a few weeks ago. Could anyone have a +</I>><i> look, why that package is not available on both architectures? +</I> + + I couldn't find anything in any log :( +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-sysadm/attachments/20120402/5563fc16/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004370.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004372.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4371">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4371">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4371">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4371">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004372.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004372.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f6718996f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004372.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Noarch%20package%20missing%20on%20i586%20%28again%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F7A2A15.6060707%40hiebel.eu%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004371.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004379.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again)</H1> + <B>Manuel Hiebel</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Noarch%20package%20missing%20on%20i586%20%28again%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F7A2A15.6060707%40hiebel.eu%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again)">manuel at hiebel.eu + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 3 00:37:09 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004371.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004379.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4372">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4372">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4372">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4372">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 02/04/2012 23:40, Oliver Burger a écrit : +><i> Hi there, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> according to +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/obgr_seneca/dependencies.html">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/obgr_seneca/dependencies.html</A> +</I>><i> terminus-font is missing on i586. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The package is nonfree and should thus be available on both +</I>><i> architectures. +</I>><i> I remember the same happening before a few weeks ago. Could anyone +</I>><i> have a look, why that package is not available on both architectures? +</I>><i> +</I>One of the two blockers for the sysadmin, is about that: +<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4948">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4948</A> + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004371.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004379.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4372">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4372">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4372">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4372">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004373.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004373.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eb93764dc --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004373.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20is%20the%20svn%20server%20down%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201204030057.25322.alien%40rmail.be%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004367.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004354.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down?</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20is%20the%20svn%20server%20down%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201204030057.25322.alien%40rmail.be%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down?">alien at rmail.be + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 3 00:57:25 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004367.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004354.html">[Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages containing binaries should be rejected +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4373">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4373">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4373">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4373">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op maandag 02 april 2012 21:18:53 schreef Michael scherer: +><i> On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 07:57:23PM +0200, Maarten Vanraes wrote: +</I>><i> > well, i would think that there's other monitoring warnings/criticals +</I>><i> > rather than only failures regarding pkgsubmit... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Then people should look at xymon. +</I>><i> ( <A HREF="http://xymon.mageia.org/">http://xymon.mageia.org/</A> ). +</I> +i knew the link, btw, but i didn't see any links to it from anywhere... so i +think people really have to search hard for it, maybe it's to be found in the +puppet files... + +><i> If the smiley is happy, then it work. If it is unhappy, it doesn't work. +</I>><i> There is also color code ( red == not working, green == working ) +</I>><i> for non colourblind people. Even a packager could understand them without +</I>><i> much training. +</I> +thanks for thinking of colourblind people! + +><i> > btw: the bad cable, was that an uplink one? you can also ask for a second +</I>><i> > patch in that case. (but i'm sure you know) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Unfortunately, our switch has only one uplink ( and no free port at all ). +</I>><i> And is non manageable ( but I will ask for that for the zarb.org switch, +</I>><i> once we find how to manage ) +</I> +actually, i donno if this is a bad or good idea, but apparently there are some +places where you can get cheaper previously-used switches, so we don't have to +buy 2 switches for 6k EUR. + +><i> And the main problem is that each time something break, it break : +</I>><i> - during the night +</I>><i> - on friday during the night +</I>><i> - on friday during the night before a 2 week holidays +</I> +yes, but that's life :-). and after you fix this, it's always something else +that breaks too... +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004367.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004354.html">[Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages containing binaries should be rejected +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4373">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4373">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4373">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4373">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004374.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004374.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e8050d505 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004374.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%20costs&In-Reply-To=%3C201204030336.43815.alien%40rmail.be%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Or using ipacct ( easier to +package IMHO than a iptables addon ). + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004374.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004377.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4375">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4375">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4375">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4375">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004376.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004376.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6661b9a3f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004376.html @@ -0,0 +1,125 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%20costs&In-Reply-To=%3C1333433178.8337.15.camel%40liliana.cdg.redhat.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004369.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004358.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%20costs&In-Reply-To=%3C1333433178.8337.15.camel%40liliana.cdg.redhat.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 3 08:06:18 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004369.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004358.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4376">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4376">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4376">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4376">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 02 avril 2012 à 22:12 +0200, Buchan Milne a écrit : +><i> On Monday, 2 April 2012 16:59:59 Michael Scherer wrote: +</I>><i> > Le lundi 02 avril 2012 à 15:23 +0200, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +</I> +><i> > > 2) have a quick report, automatic +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > about this (not only for sysadmin, but for all users of our +</I>><i> > > infrastructure). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I do think for me that the current report of xymon are sufficient. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There is some room for enhancements, but that requires a bit more knowledge +</I>><i> regarding real (physical) dependencies than I have at present. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can maybe add some examples which don't require that knowledge, so others +</I>><i> can add some more. +</I> +Yes, do not hesitate. + + +><i> > And of course, most of them have metered network connections that would +</I>><i> > maybe not be suitable for something like valstar, who act as a primary +</I>><i> > mirror. For reference, since we have started the server : +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > RX bytes:453228974131 (422.1 GiB) +</I>><i> > TX bytes:9311461347504 (8.4 TiB) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Uptime is 60 days. +</I>><i> > That's around 4 T per month of transfert. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> How much of this is internal to the hosting provider? +</I> +I have no idea. That's hard to say because on one hand, valstar serve as +mirror for builder, so there is lots of traffic. on the other hand, we +act as main mirror ( so traffic is duplicated 3/4 ), so every new rpms +and iso would be sent too. +As well as every tarball upload and download, from builder and from +packagers. + +Since RX would be "isos from rabbit + rpms build from jonund/ecosse + +tarball sent from packager", and TX is "isos sent to mirrors + rpms to +mirrors + chroot installation", I cannot give any realistic estimation. + +><i> [...] +</I>><i> A)That we should be able to know when our network connection is down? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IMHO, the hosting provider should be monitoring this (our data center business +</I>><i> does this for all managed hosting customers). If the hosting provider is not +</I>><i> able to do that, then our options are: +</I>><i> 1)Monitor servers in one location from servers in another, and ensure that +</I>><i> they can inform us without requiring the servers in the first location to be +</I>><i> available +</I>><i> 2)Monitor the network interfaces etc. from inside the network, but have a non- +</I>><i> network notification system, such as SMS modem, or old cell-phone (Nokia 5110 +</I>><i> was the usual choice a few years ago). Alternatively, a 3G dongle for IP-based +</I>><i> access could be considered. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (note that so far, there is minimal cost involved) +</I> +Monitoring is nice, but that's not a end. That doesn't serve much if we +cannot act on it :/ + +Usually, people see quite fast that everything is down. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004369.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004358.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4376">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4376">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4376">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4376">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004377.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004377.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a76f45bc0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004377.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%20costs&In-Reply-To=%3CCANa9xwshdGcOEFvFMvy4AJ%2BN9mdqQ6ad4hZjEQFrG_0WXGZ15A%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004375.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004378.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%20costs&In-Reply-To=%3CCANa9xwshdGcOEFvFMvy4AJ%2BN9mdqQ6ad4hZjEQFrG_0WXGZ15A%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 3 10:34:39 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004375.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004378.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4377">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4377">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4377">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4377">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 21:00, Michael scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> Well, you have the hardware we paid, no ? +</I>><i> The accounting is on the bank account, and despites requiring searching, it +</I>><i> was published. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If iyou need information on the hardware we got at the beggining, I can send +</I>><i> on this list a partial history of where +</I>><i> does every piece of hardware come from, if that what you need, but I prefer to +</I>><i> be sure that's really what you need before spending a afternoon on this. +</I> +It's more important, looking ahead, to know what is needed, because +the costs of the infrastructure before and today (offered/acquired +hardware, hosting, etc.) are not the same for hardware/services +available today or tomorrow. For a given service, the needs are known +and stable (or can be planned). The cost (and options) of that +infrastructure, on the other hand, may change more rapidly with time +(up or down). + +><i> Basically : [...] +</I> +><i> I do not say that's not a good idea to document ( I started to write +</I>><i> various SOP on the wiki ), just that I fear that no one will +</I>><i> be motivated to do it and to keep it up to date, especially for such a huge +</I>><i> document. +</I> +Thanks for the tips anyway, I'll see what I can prepare with that, +although I'm afraid it's useless, given some echoes to this thread +(here and elsewhere). I won't be able to plan for your (sysadmin) +capacities and needs (that means, looking 2/3 years ahead), if you +don't tell me in a documented, maintained and clear way. + +Doesn't need to be a huge doc, especially for a start. But it needs to +revolve around something logical for deployment and understandable for +most, non technical people, so service-centered didn't seem absurd to +me, and a graphic-based format neither, so that a sense of priority +can be shared. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004375.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004378.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4377">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4377">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4377">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4377">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004378.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004378.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fdee84191 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004378.html @@ -0,0 +1,136 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%20costs&In-Reply-To=%3C1333456728.8337.38.camel%40liliana.cdg.redhat.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004377.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004392.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%20costs&In-Reply-To=%3C1333456728.8337.38.camel%40liliana.cdg.redhat.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 3 14:38:48 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004377.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004392.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4378">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4378">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4378">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4378">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 03 avril 2012 à 10:34 +0200, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +><i> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 21:00, Michael scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > Well, you have the hardware we paid, no ? +</I>><i> > The accounting is on the bank account, and despites requiring searching, it +</I>><i> > was published. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > If iyou need information on the hardware we got at the beggining, I can send +</I>><i> > on this list a partial history of where +</I>><i> > does every piece of hardware come from, if that what you need, but I prefer to +</I>><i> > be sure that's really what you need before spending a afternoon on this. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It's more important, looking ahead, to know what is needed, because +</I>><i> the costs of the infrastructure before and today (offered/acquired +</I>><i> hardware, hosting, etc.) are not the same for hardware/services +</I>><i> available today or tomorrow. For a given service, the needs are known +</I>><i> and stable (or can be planned). The cost (and options) of that +</I>><i> infrastructure, on the other hand, may change more rapidly with time +</I>><i> (up or down). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Basically : [...] +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > I do not say that's not a good idea to document ( I started to write +</I>><i> > various SOP on the wiki ), just that I fear that no one will +</I>><i> > be motivated to do it and to keep it up to date, especially for such a huge +</I>><i> > document. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks for the tips anyway, I'll see what I can prepare with that, +</I>><i> although I'm afraid it's useless, given some echoes to this thread +</I>><i> (here and elsewhere). I won't be able to plan for your (sysadmin) +</I>><i> capacities and needs (that means, looking 2/3 years ahead), if you +</I>><i> don't tell me in a documented, maintained and clear way. +</I> +To tell the truth, I think we have more than what we need in term of +hardware. While we can always be ok with faster builders and so on, as I +say, we upgrade, stuff are seen as fast, and after 1 week, that's +becoming the reference speed and so people do not see it anymore. + +So I propose to rather take in account than in X years, we will have +lost Y servers, Z harddrive, etc, and plan this. + +( of course, we do not have X Y Z, but at least, that's the way i would +pursue for planning ) + +><i> Doesn't need to be a huge doc, especially for a start. But it needs to +</I>><i> revolve around something logical for deployment and understandable for +</I>><i> most, non technical people, so service-centered didn't seem absurd to +</I>><i> me, and a graphic-based format neither, so that a sense of priority +</I>><i> can be shared. +</I> +Service centered is not absurd, just it doesn't map easily to physical +hardware for now. + +I would be in favor of moving from "one big server" to "several system" +for alamut ( and also for valstar maybe ). This would permit several +improvements : +- delayed upgrade ( ie, we will upgrade one service at a time ) + +- easier duplication for testing ( clone vm, upgrade vm, if it doesn't +work, we fix and try again ) + +- remote upgrade ( ie, done by the confort of my chair in Paris, not in +a noisy server room ) + +- better service isolation, and the path toward less centralized +management ( ie, we could let someone play with tx without touching to +the rest, etc ). + +- better resilience, by moving vm accross server in case of upgrade, etc + +an,d from a network point of view, a better layout ( ie, server are not +directly exposed to the internet, we can put a reverse proxy with +various goodies like a page to say "we are upgrading" when the virtual +server is down for maintainance, etc ) + +Until then, that's hard to say "this service requires that amount of +ressources". + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004377.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004392.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4378">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4378">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4378">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4378">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004379.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004379.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f4d7c2b06 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004379.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Storage%20space%20on%20mageia%20servers&In-Reply-To=%3C20120403125917.GD21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004372.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004380.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Storage%20space%20on%20mageia%20servers&In-Reply-To=%3C20120403125917.GD21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 3 14:59:17 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004372.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004380.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4379">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4379">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4379">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4379">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello, + +As seen in bug this bug: +<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213</A> + +Marcom and Artwork teams (and maybe other teams later) need to have a +storage space to upload temporary files, to share work in progress. + +To do that, I think a simple solution would be to use WebDAV : + - we setup webdav with ssl, and allow upload from users from artwork + ldap group + - we setup apache to distribute files from this directory, as + <A HREF="http://tmp.mageia.org/artwork">http://tmp.mageia.org/artwork</A> (disabling execution of any script) + +What do you think ? + +Other options that I see are : + - using an ftp server instead of webdav to upload the files. However + the connection is not encrypted with ftp. + - using scp/sftp, but this require to have posix accounts for all users + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004372.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004380.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4379">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4379">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4379">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4379">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004380.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004380.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fb817e492 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004380.html @@ -0,0 +1,121 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Storage%20space%20on%20mageia%20servers&In-Reply-To=%3C20120403231320.6245ff84%40andromeda%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004379.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004385.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers</H1> + <B>Patricia Fraser</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Storage%20space%20on%20mageia%20servers&In-Reply-To=%3C20120403231320.6245ff84%40andromeda%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers">trish at thefrasers.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 3 15:13:20 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004379.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004385.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4380">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4380">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4380">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4380">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Forwarding to artwork and marcom for comment. + +><i> Hello, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As seen in bug this bug: +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marcom and Artwork teams (and maybe other teams later) need to have a +</I>><i> storage space to upload temporary files, to share work in progress. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To do that, I think a simple solution would be to use WebDAV : +</I>><i> - we setup webdav with ssl, and allow upload from users from artwork +</I>><i> ldap group +</I>><i> - we setup apache to distribute files from this directory, as +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://tmp.mageia.org/artwork">http://tmp.mageia.org/artwork</A> (disabling execution of any script) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What do you think ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Other options that I see are : +</I>><i> - using an ftp server instead of webdav to upload the files. However +</I>><i> the connection is not encrypted with ftp. +</I>><i> - using scp/sftp, but this require to have posix accounts for all +</I>><i> users +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-sysadm mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">Mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm</A> +</I> + + +-- +Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V +-35.67896, 142.66637 +Tue Apr 3 23:12:20 EST 2012 +GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net +andromeda up 17 hour(s), 28 min. +kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga +-- +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: signature.asc +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 490 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-sysadm/attachments/20120403/e510010e/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004379.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004385.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4380">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4380">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4380">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4380">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004381.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004381.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c147a5931 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004381.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Storage%20space%20on%20mageia%20servers&In-Reply-To=%3C201204031621.28813.alien%40rmail.be%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004385.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004382.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Storage%20space%20on%20mageia%20servers&In-Reply-To=%3C201204031621.28813.alien%40rmail.be%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers">alien at rmail.be + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 3 16:21:28 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004385.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004382.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4381">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4381">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4381">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4381">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op dinsdag 03 april 2012 14:59:17 schreef nicolas vigier: +[...] +><i> To do that, I think a simple solution would be to use WebDAV : +</I>[...] + +not really on-topic, but is there a good webdav client? i remember being asked +in $dayjob to do it, but i gave up on webdav... 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(of course it might be because +</I>><i> the users would be using windows maybe) +</I> +You can use nautilus on gnome or dolphin on kde. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004381.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004383.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4382">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4382">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4382">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4382">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004383.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004383.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5313ae8ad --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004383.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Storage%20space%20on%20mageia%20servers&In-Reply-To=%3C1333463588.8337.46.camel%40liliana.cdg.redhat.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004382.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004384.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Storage%20space%20on%20mageia%20servers&In-Reply-To=%3C1333463588.8337.46.camel%40liliana.cdg.redhat.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 3 16:33:08 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004382.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004384.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4383">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4383">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4383">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4383">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 03 avril 2012 à 14:59 +0200, nicolas vigier a écrit : +><i> Hello, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As seen in bug this bug: +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marcom and Artwork teams (and maybe other teams later) need to have a +</I>><i> storage space to upload temporary files, to share work in progress. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To do that, I think a simple solution would be to use WebDAV : +</I>><i> - we setup webdav with ssl, and allow upload from users from artwork +</I>><i> ldap group +</I>><i> - we setup apache to distribute files from this directory, as +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://tmp.mageia.org/artwork">http://tmp.mageia.org/artwork</A> (disabling execution of any script) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What do you think ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Other options that I see are : +</I>><i> - using an ftp server instead of webdav to upload the files. However +</I>><i> the connection is not encrypted with ftp. +</I>><i> - using scp/sftp, but this require to have posix accounts for all users +</I> +Didn't we set up sparkleshare for that ? + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004382.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004384.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4383">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4383">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4383">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4383">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004384.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004384.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f5486911b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004384.html @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Storage%20space%20on%20mageia%20servers&In-Reply-To=%3C20120403145719.GH21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004383.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004401.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Storage%20space%20on%20mageia%20servers&In-Reply-To=%3C20120403145719.GH21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 3 16:57:19 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004383.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004401.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4384">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4384">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4384">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4384">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, 03 Apr 2012, Michael Scherer wrote: + +><i> Le mardi 03 avril 2012 à 14:59 +0200, nicolas vigier a écrit : +</I>><i> > Hello, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > As seen in bug this bug: +</I>><i> > <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213</A> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Marcom and Artwork teams (and maybe other teams later) need to have a +</I>><i> > storage space to upload temporary files, to share work in progress. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > To do that, I think a simple solution would be to use WebDAV : +</I>><i> > - we setup webdav with ssl, and allow upload from users from artwork +</I>><i> > ldap group +</I>><i> > - we setup apache to distribute files from this directory, as +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://tmp.mageia.org/artwork">http://tmp.mageia.org/artwork</A> (disabling execution of any script) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > What do you think ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Other options that I see are : +</I>><i> > - using an ftp server instead of webdav to upload the files. However +</I>><i> > the connection is not encrypted with ftp. +</I>><i> > - using scp/sftp, but this require to have posix accounts for all users +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Didn't we set up sparkleshare for that ? +</I> +Yes, we initially looked at sparkleshare for this. However, sparkleshare +seems to be nothing more than git, with something to commit +automatically when a file is added/modified in the sparkleshare +directory, but : + - it seems no history is needed in our case as it will be used only to + share work in progress + - they want this to be accessible by http to give links on the mailing + list + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004383.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004401.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4384">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4384">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4384">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4384">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004385.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004385.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d7805e50a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004385.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Storage%20space%20on%20mageia%20servers&In-Reply-To=%3C4F7C0E0B.7030602%40xs4all.nl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004380.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004381.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers</H1> + <B>Marja van Waes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20Storage%20space%20on%20mageia%20servers&In-Reply-To=%3C4F7C0E0B.7030602%40xs4all.nl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers">marja11 at xs4all.nl + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Apr 4 11:02:03 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004380.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004381.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4385">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4385">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4385">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4385">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 03/04/12 15:13, Patricia Fraser wrote: +><i> Forwarding to artwork and marcom for comment. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Hello, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As seen in bug this bug: +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5213</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Marcom and Artwork teams (and maybe other teams later) +</I> +Not only later ;) , doc team already asked for something like +doc.mageia.org/ in this ml on 15/03/12 + +But we should have opened a bug report for the request too... we'll do +that :) + +>><i> need to have a +</I>>><i> storage space to upload temporary files, to share work in progress. +</I> + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004380.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004381.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4385">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4385">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4385">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4385">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004386.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004386.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..675b51748 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004386.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! 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Would that be ok, or +</I>><i> > should we keep this separate from pkgcpan, and use a different vhost ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> it can definitely be on the same vhost, since data is taken from +</I>><i> pkgcpan. as said, magpie will remove the whole directory to create the +</I>><i> new one, so nothing else should be in the same directory. +</I> +can you tell me when it's done? +thanks, +jérôme +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004364.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004387.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4386">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4386">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4386">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4386">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004387.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004387.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..02bb74a3f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004387.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120405141405.GS21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004386.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004388.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120405141405.GS21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Apr 5 16:14:05 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004386.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004388.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4387">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4387">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4387">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4387">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 04 Apr 2012, Jerome Quelin wrote: + +><i> On 12/04/02 19:41 +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote: +</I>><i> > > I think we can make the website available at <A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/</A> +</I>><i> > > (or an other directory name instead of "stats"). Would that be ok, or +</I>><i> > > should we keep this separate from pkgcpan, and use a different vhost ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > it can definitely be on the same vhost, since data is taken from +</I>><i> > pkgcpan. as said, magpie will remove the whole directory to create the +</I>><i> > new one, so nothing else should be in the same directory. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> can you tell me when it's done? +</I> +It's now on <A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/.">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/.</A> + +Updated everyday at 23h30 (and pkgcpan is updated at 23h00). + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004386.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004388.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4387">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4387">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4387">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4387">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004388.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004388.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9aa94d73e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004388.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120405143056.GT21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004387.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004389.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120405143056.GT21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Apr 5 16:30:56 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004387.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004389.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4388">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4388">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4388">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4388">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, 05 Apr 2012, nicolas vigier wrote: + +><i> On Wed, 04 Apr 2012, Jerome Quelin wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > On 12/04/02 19:41 +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote: +</I>><i> > > > I think we can make the website available at <A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/</A> +</I>><i> > > > (or an other directory name instead of "stats"). Would that be ok, or +</I>><i> > > > should we keep this separate from pkgcpan, and use a different vhost ? +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > it can definitely be on the same vhost, since data is taken from +</I>><i> > > pkgcpan. as said, magpie will remove the whole directory to create the +</I>><i> > > new one, so nothing else should be in the same directory. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > can you tell me when it's done? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It's now on <A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/.">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/.</A> +</I> +By the way, I noticed that the page says "Mageia Linux ships ...", but +the name of the distribution is "Mageia" not "Mageia Linux", so I think +magpie needs to be updated to change this. + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004387.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004389.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4388">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4388">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4388">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4388">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004389.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004389.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f5646e694 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004389.html @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120405152329.GC8305%40mongueurs.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004388.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004390.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!</H1> + <B>Jerome Quelin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120405152329.GC8305%40mongueurs.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!">jquelin at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Apr 5 17:23:29 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004388.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004390.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4389">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4389">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4389">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4389">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 12/04/05 16:30 +0200, nicolas vigier wrote: +><i> > > On 12/04/02 19:41 +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote: +</I>><i> > > > > I think we can make the website available at <A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/</A> +</I>><i> > > > > (or an other directory name instead of "stats"). Would that be ok, or +</I>><i> > > > > should we keep this separate from pkgcpan, and use a different vhost ? +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > it can definitely be on the same vhost, since data is taken from +</I>><i> > > > pkgcpan. as said, magpie will remove the whole directory to create the +</I>><i> > > > new one, so nothing else should be in the same directory. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > can you tell me when it's done? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > It's now on <A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/.">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/.</A> +</I> +thank you very much! +on 2nd thought, i wonder whether the url is that good an idea. + +in the future, i'd like to add some information on the available +modules, so that url eg .../module/Math/Random/ will give some +information on the module (version shipped, package holding it with a +link to sofie) and list modules under this namespace (link to +.../module/Math/Random/ISAAC). + +therefore, <A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/module/Math/Random/">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/module/Math/Random/</A> or +<A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/Math/Random/">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/Math/Random/</A> isn't really nice, is it? + +in that case, wouldn't <A HREF="http://perl.mageia.org">http://perl.mageia.org</A> be a better url? which +would give <A HREF="http://perl.mageia.org/module/Math/Random/">http://perl.mageia.org/module/Math/Random/</A> which is way +better imo + +note that my ideas are not yet very clear, and that i'm not a web +designer. so in fact, i'm really open on the content of the site as well +as how it should be laid out. not even speaking on design - but maybe +marcom would help on that. :-) + + +><i> By the way, I noticed that the page says "Mageia Linux ships ...", but +</I>><i> the name of the distribution is "Mageia" not "Mageia Linux", so I think +</I>><i> magpie needs to be updated to change this. +</I> +sure, i'll correct that. and now that i know that infra has its own it's +going to be easy to fix it & push a release. i'll fix that and tell you +when svn is updated. + +oh, also, i forgot to tell you that you may want to add "-q" flag to the +command line, in order to have a quiet run, even when i'll add some +logging. so command line should read: + + magpie webstatic -q -d /path/to/where/you/want + +-q is already supported, so it won't blow up. :-) + + +thank you very much once again, +jérôme +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004388.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004390.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4389">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4389">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4389">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4389">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004390.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004390.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7d94321f1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004390.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120405175620.GD8305%40mongueurs.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004389.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004394.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!</H1> + <B>Jerome Quelin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120405175620.GD8305%40mongueurs.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!">jquelin at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Apr 5 19:56:20 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004389.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004394.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4390">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4390">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4390">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4390">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 12/04/05 17:23 +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote: +><i> > By the way, I noticed that the page says "Mageia Linux ships ...", but +</I>><i> > the name of the distribution is "Mageia" not "Mageia Linux", so I think +</I>><i> > magpie needs to be updated to change this. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> sure, i'll correct that. and now that i know that infra has its own it's +</I>><i> going to be easy to fix it & push a release. i'll fix that and tell you +</I>><i> when svn is updated. +</I> +done. can you push new magpie on the infra repo? (svn has been updated) +number of perl packages is now also tracked & displayed. + +==> can you push & tell me when it's done? + + +><i> oh, also, i forgot to tell you that you may want to add "-q" flag to the +</I>><i> command line, in order to have a quiet run, even when i'll add some +</I>><i> logging. so command line should read: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> magpie webstatic -q -d /path/to/where/you/want +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -q is already supported, so it won't blow up. :-) +</I> +in fact, it's -qq to have a really silent run: + + magpie webstatic -qq -d /path/to/where/you/want + + +thanks, +jérôme +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004389.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004394.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4390">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4390">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4390">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4390">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004391.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004391.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..73aff3185 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004391.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C201204052004.20892.alien%40rmail.be%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004399.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004396.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C201204052004.20892.alien%40rmail.be%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!">alien at rmail.be + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Apr 5 20:04:20 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004399.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004396.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4391">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4391">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4391">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4391">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op donderdag 05 april 2012 17:23:29 schreef Jerome Quelin: +[...] +><i> in the future, i'd like to add some information on the available +</I>><i> modules, so that url eg .../module/Math/Random/ will give some +</I>><i> information on the module (version shipped, package holding it with a +</I>><i> link to sofie) and list modules under this namespace (link to +</I>><i> .../module/Math/Random/ISAAC). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> therefore, <A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/module/Math/Random/">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/module/Math/Random/</A> or +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/Math/Random/">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/Math/Random/</A> isn't really nice, is it? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> in that case, wouldn't <A HREF="http://perl.mageia.org">http://perl.mageia.org</A> be a better url? which +</I>><i> would give <A HREF="http://perl.mageia.org/module/Math/Random/">http://perl.mageia.org/module/Math/Random/</A> which is way +</I>><i> better imo +</I>[...] + +or <A HREF="http://perl.mageia.org/Math::Random">http://perl.mageia.org/Math::Random</A> + +like with an url rewrite +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004399.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004396.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4391">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4391">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4391">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4391">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004392.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004392.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f1aefee02 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004392.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%20costs&In-Reply-To=%3C1333707163.26534.5.camel%40localhost%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004378.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004393.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%20costs&In-Reply-To=%3C1333707163.26534.5.camel%40localhost%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 6 12:12:43 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004378.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004393.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4392">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4392">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4392">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4392">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 03 avril 2012 à 10:34 +0200, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : + +><i> Doesn't need to be a huge doc, especially for a start. But it needs to +</I>><i> revolve around something logical for deployment and understandable for +</I>><i> most, non technical people, so service-centered didn't seem absurd to +</I>><i> me, and a graphic-based format neither, so that a sense of priority +</I>><i> can be shared. +</I> +Someone just pasted that on #puppet : +<A HREF="http://spin.atomicobject.com/2011/12/29/puppet-gephi-visualizing-infrastructure-as-code/">http://spin.atomicobject.com/2011/12/29/puppet-gephi-visualizing-infrastructure-as-code/</A> + +Would such graphs help you ? +( I think we generate them already, but since I have several puppet +deployment, I may be wrong on this point ) + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004378.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004393.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4392">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4392">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4392">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4392">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004393.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004393.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4e0180a73 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004393.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%20costs&In-Reply-To=%3CCANa9xwt5NMhecwv09i3U_%2BOx5uJUMB7FPLx7f%2BrDYUQabUaiKA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004392.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004369.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20questions%20about%20our%20infrastructure%20setup%20%26%20costs&In-Reply-To=%3CCANa9xwt5NMhecwv09i3U_%2BOx5uJUMB7FPLx7f%2BrDYUQabUaiKA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 6 12:48:08 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004392.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004369.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4393">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4393">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4393">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4393">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 12:12, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> Le mardi 03 avril 2012 à 10:34 +0200, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : +</I>>><i> Doesn't need to be a huge doc, especially for a start. But it needs to +</I>>><i> revolve around something logical for deployment and understandable for +</I>>><i> most, non technical people, so service-centered didn't seem absurd to +</I>>><i> me, and a graphic-based format neither, so that a sense of priority +</I>>><i> can be shared. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Someone just pasted that on #puppet : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://spin.atomicobject.com/2011/12/29/puppet-gephi-visualizing-infrastructure-as-code/">http://spin.atomicobject.com/2011/12/29/puppet-gephi-visualizing-infrastructure-as-code/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Would such graphs help you ? +</I> +It looks very interesting yes. Depends on the actual result, but if we +can get this be done easily, I'm happy to get a copy of the dot file. +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004392.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004369.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4393">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4393">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4393">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4393">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004394.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004394.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eea4c638d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004394.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120407125659.GJ8305%40mongueurs.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004390.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004395.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!</H1> + <B>Jerome Quelin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120407125659.GJ8305%40mongueurs.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!">jquelin at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Apr 7 14:56:59 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004390.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004395.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4394">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4394">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4394">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4394">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 12/04/05 19:56 +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote: +><i> done. can you push new magpie on the infra repo? (svn has been updated) +</I>><i> number of perl packages is now also tracked & displayed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ==> can you push & tell me when it's done? +</I> +note that it seems that <A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats</A> hasn't been +updated since: + + Page generated on Thu Apr 5 23:30:06 2012. + +jérôme +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004390.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004395.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4394">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4394">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4394">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4394">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004395.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004395.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f4658de49 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004395.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120407131805.GG21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004394.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004397.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120407131805.GG21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Apr 7 15:18:05 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004394.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004397.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4395">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4395">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4395">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4395">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, 07 Apr 2012, Jerome Quelin wrote: + +><i> On 12/04/05 19:56 +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote: +</I>><i> > done. can you push new magpie on the infra repo? (svn has been updated) +</I>><i> > number of perl packages is now also tracked & displayed. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > ==> can you push & tell me when it's done? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> note that it seems that <A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats</A> hasn't been +</I>><i> updated since: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Page generated on Thu Apr 5 23:30:06 2012. +</I> + +Hmm, I don't understand why it was not updated last night. + +We have this in cron : +30 23 * * * magpie webstatic -q -d /var/www/vhosts/pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats + +I ran the command manually and it updated the page. So we'll see if it's +updated tonight. + +Is it possible that it does not get updated in case of network error or +other temporary problem ? + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004394.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004397.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4395">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4395">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4395">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4395">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004396.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004396.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..748425bc7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004396.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120407133525.GH21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004391.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004398.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120407133525.GH21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Apr 7 15:35:25 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004391.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004398.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4396">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4396">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4396">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4396">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, 05 Apr 2012, Jerome Quelin wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> thank you very much! +</I>><i> on 2nd thought, i wonder whether the url is that good an idea. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> in the future, i'd like to add some information on the available +</I>><i> modules, so that url eg .../module/Math/Random/ will give some +</I>><i> information on the module (version shipped, package holding it with a +</I>><i> link to sofie) and list modules under this namespace (link to +</I>><i> .../module/Math/Random/ISAAC). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> therefore, <A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/module/Math/Random/">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/module/Math/Random/</A> or +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/Math/Random/">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats/Math/Random/</A> isn't really nice, is it? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> in that case, wouldn't <A HREF="http://perl.mageia.org">http://perl.mageia.org</A> be a better url? which +</I>><i> would give <A HREF="http://perl.mageia.org/module/Math/Random/">http://perl.mageia.org/module/Math/Random/</A> which is way +</I>><i> better imo +</I> +Yes, perl.mageia.org looks better for this kind of page. I think we can +have that. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004391.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004398.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4396">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4396">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4396">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4396">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004397.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004397.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..054bf1096 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004397.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120407160540.GK8305%40mongueurs.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004395.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004400.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!</H1> + <B>Jerome Quelin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120407160540.GK8305%40mongueurs.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!">jquelin at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Apr 7 18:05:40 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004395.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004400.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4397">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4397">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4397">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4397">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 12/04/07 15:18 +0200, nicolas vigier wrote: +><i> Hmm, I don't understand why it was not updated last night. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We have this in cron : +</I>><i> 30 23 * * * magpie webstatic -q -d /var/www/vhosts/pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I ran the command manually and it updated the page. So we'll see if it's +</I>><i> updated tonight. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is it possible that it does not get updated in case of network error or +</I>><i> other temporary problem ? +</I> +yes, definitely, since ordb::cpan::mageia fetches +pkgcpan.mageia.org/cpan_Mageia.db + +jérôme +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004395.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004400.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4397">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4397">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4397">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4397">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004398.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004398.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a6579ea17 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004398.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120407160636.GL8305%40mongueurs.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004396.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004370.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!</H1> + <B>Jerome Quelin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120407160636.GL8305%40mongueurs.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!">jquelin at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Apr 7 18:06:36 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004396.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004370.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4398">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4398">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4398">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4398">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 12/04/07 15:35 +0200, nicolas vigier wrote: +><i> Yes, perl.mageia.org looks better for this kind of page. I think we can +</I>><i> have that. +</I> +can you move the <A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats</A> then? +also, can you push & install new magpie please? + +thanks, +jérôme +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004396.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004370.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4398">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4398">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4398">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4398">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004399.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004399.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..734b84d4f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004399.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2BCX%2Bbhhx5NOxj1T%2BGX5de64DWVqWZUveXKU%2BfPwdf18NfOiQw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004410.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004391.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!</H1> + <B>Pascal Terjan</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2BCX%2Bbhhx5NOxj1T%2BGX5de64DWVqWZUveXKU%2BfPwdf18NfOiQw%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!">pterjan at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Apr 7 18:25:27 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004410.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004391.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4399">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4399">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4399">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4399">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 14:18, nicolas vigier <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>> wrote: + +><i> On Sat, 07 Apr 2012, Jerome Quelin wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > On 12/04/05 19:56 +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote: +</I>><i> > > done. can you push new magpie on the infra repo? (svn has been updated) +</I>><i> > > number of perl packages is now also tracked & displayed. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > ==> can you push & tell me when it's done? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > note that it seems that <A HREF="http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats">http://pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats</A> hasn't been +</I>><i> > updated since: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Page generated on Thu Apr 5 23:30:06 2012. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hmm, I don't understand why it was not updated last night. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We have this in cron : +</I>><i> 30 23 * * * magpie webstatic -q -d /var/www/vhosts/ +</I>><i> pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I ran the command manually and it updated the page. So we'll see if it's +</I>><i> updated tonight. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Maybe try with the full path? +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-sysadm/attachments/20120407/8448a118/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004410.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004391.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4399">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4399">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4399">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4399">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004400.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004400.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..852007e98 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004400.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120413164725.GG8305%40mongueurs.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004397.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004407.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!</H1> + <B>Jerome Quelin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20perl%20modules%20shipped%20by%20mageia%20-%20the%20web%20site%21&In-Reply-To=%3C20120413164725.GG8305%40mongueurs.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site!">jquelin at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Apr 13 18:47:25 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004397.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004407.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4400">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4400">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4400">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4400">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 12/04/07 18:05 +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote: +><i> On 12/04/07 15:18 +0200, nicolas vigier wrote: +</I>><i> > Hmm, I don't understand why it was not updated last night. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > We have this in cron : +</I>><i> > 30 23 * * * magpie webstatic -q -d /var/www/vhosts/pkgcpan.mageia.org/stats +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I ran the command manually and it updated the page. So we'll see if it's +</I>><i> > updated tonight. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Is it possible that it does not get updated in case of network error or +</I>><i> > other temporary problem ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> yes, definitely, since ordb::cpan::mageia fetches +</I>><i> pkgcpan.mageia.org/cpan_Mageia.db +</I> +still not updated since Sat Apr 7 15:06:54 2012. +also, please consider pushing latest svn mageia to infra repository. + +thanks, +jérôme +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004397.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004407.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4400">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4400">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4400">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4400">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004401.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004401.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9e690c883 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004401.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%5Bsysadmin-commits%5D%20%5B2736%5D%20do%20not%20explictely%20set%0A%09the%20same%20value%09as%20default&In-Reply-To=%3C20120415004135.GE21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004384.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004402.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%5Bsysadmin-commits%5D%20%5B2736%5D%20do%20not%20explictely%20set%0A%09the%20same%20value%09as%20default&In-Reply-To=%3C20120415004135.GE21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Apr 15 02:41:35 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004384.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004402.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4401">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4401">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4401">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4401">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, 15 Apr 2012, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A> wrote: + +><i> Revision: 2736 +</I>><i> Author: misc +</I>><i> Date: 2012-04-15 01:45:48 +0200 (Sun, 15 Apr 2012) +</I>><i> Log Message: +</I>><i> ----------- +</I>><i> do not explictely set the same value as default +</I> +I don't see the use of not explicitely setting the values and rely on +default value. Actually this make the modules unusable outside mageia +servers, because default values can be different. + +In my opinion we should always exlicitely set the values when they are +important, and only use default value when we don't care about the +value. + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004384.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004402.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4401">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4401">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4401">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4401">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004402.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004402.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..343f6983e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004402.html @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%5Bsysadmin-commits%5D%20%5B2736%5D%20do%20not%20explictely%20set%0A%20the%20same%20value%09as%20default&In-Reply-To=%3C1334493357.3655.47.camel%40localhost%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004401.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004403.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%5Bsysadmin-commits%5D%20%5B2736%5D%20do%20not%20explictely%20set%0A%20the%20same%20value%09as%20default&In-Reply-To=%3C1334493357.3655.47.camel%40localhost%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Apr 15 14:35:57 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004401.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004403.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4402">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4402">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4402">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4402">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le dimanche 15 avril 2012 à 02:41 +0200, nicolas vigier a écrit : +><i> On Sun, 15 Apr 2012, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Revision: 2736 +</I>><i> > Author: misc +</I>><i> > Date: 2012-04-15 01:45:48 +0200 (Sun, 15 Apr 2012) +</I>><i> > Log Message: +</I>><i> > ----------- +</I>><i> > do not explictely set the same value as default +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't see the use of not explicitely setting the values and rely on +</I>><i> default value. Actually this make the modules unusable outside mageia +</I>><i> servers, because default values can be different. +</I> +That's default in upstream puppet, so that would work almost everywhere. + +Package without "ensure => installed" are installed on all version of +puppet. + +<A HREF="https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet/blob/master/lib/puppet/type/package.rb#L113">https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet/blob/master/lib/puppet/type/package.rb#L113</A> + +I have yet to see someone explicitly changing the default value. + +File will be root owned if nothing have been specified, since the agent +is running as root ( and if this is not running as root as I have heard +being done at a customer office, forcing the owner would result in a +error, so the unusability argument can be more complex than "default +should be avoided" ) + +And ensure => present is implicit if content is set. + + +><i> In my opinion we should always explicitly set the values when they are +</I>><i> important, and only use default value when we don't care about the +</I>><i> value. +</I> + +Defaults are made to avoid endless duplication of useless source code. +We did the same for rpm. First, every file should have had %attr, then +it became %defattr at the beggining of %files ( I guess that was even +before the first version of rpm ), then %defattr(-,-), then %defattr got +removed. All of this because shorter spec without the same boilerplate +are easier to maintain, and less tedious to write. + +That's just following the DRY principle. + +We also do not repeat file declaration from rpm to make sure that for +example /usr/bin/svn is executable because we assume that's the default +( and we also do not take in account in our script that it could be +anywhere in the path ). +We do not explicitly give the content of every config file in rpm for +the same reason, because we assume the default are correct. So basically +using default value is just one step further in the same direction. + +Out of the box reusability is nice on the paper, but in practice, this +doesn't happen, because we do not care about portability ( like package +name accros diverse distribution or even OS ), genericity ( service +naming in our architecutre, like the ldap server, the prostgres one, and +there is not even documentation about it ) or even puppet version ( we +do no test on previous version or attempt to be compatible ), repository +layout ( cause 1 big svn is not the most reusable way of distributing +module, but the simplest for a infra ), etc. + + +IMHO, out of the box reusability lead to complex code, and except for +trivial service like xinetd, at or cron, people will always have to +modify something to suit them. So in the rare event that someone decide +that default value for package is "uninstalled" or something equally +strange and this person has the same exact architecture than us except +this detail, yes, this will not work out of the box, but in exchange of +this sacrifice, we have shorter manifests, and less repetition. + + +Taking advantage of the default is also a recommendation that I found in +a internal audit done by puppet labs for my employer setup, the main +idea is that it is faster to write, faster to read and understand, and +the less code we write, the less error we can place by inadvertence. + +And for the sake of coherence, the whole repository was cleaned a few +months ago to have manifests without the same boilerplate, and no one +commented, and there is nothing special in repoctl to be different. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004401.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004403.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4402">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4402">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4402">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4402">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004403.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004403.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7015157ed --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004403.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%5Bsysadmin-commits%5D%20%5B2736%5D%20do%20not%20explictely%09set%0A%09the%20same%20value%20as%20default&In-Reply-To=%3C20120415130128.GF21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004402.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004408.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%5Bsysadmin-commits%5D%20%5B2736%5D%20do%20not%20explictely%09set%0A%09the%20same%20value%20as%20default&In-Reply-To=%3C20120415130128.GF21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Apr 15 15:01:28 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004402.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004408.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4403">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4403">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4403">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4403">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, 15 Apr 2012, Michael Scherer wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> And for the sake of coherence, the whole repository was cleaned a few +</I>><i> months ago to have manifests without the same boilerplate, and no one +</I>><i> commented, and there is nothing special in repoctl to be different. +</I> +I didn't see any mail on this mailing list about "cleaning". It would +have been nice to discuss the puppet style to use before changing +the whole repository. + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004402.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004408.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4403">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4403">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4403">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4403">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004404.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004404.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a7b72b10b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004404.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] sucuk rebooted + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20sucuk%20rebooted&In-Reply-To=%3C20120418144141.GJ21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004408.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004405.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] sucuk rebooted</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20sucuk%20rebooted&In-Reply-To=%3C20120418144141.GJ21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] sucuk rebooted">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Apr 18 16:41:41 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004408.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004405.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Wolfgang Bornath hat Sie zu seinen Kreisen hinzugefügt und zu Google+ eingeladen +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4404">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4404">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4404">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4404">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello, + +So sucuk was frozen. It has been rebooted today by LO. The error on the +server was : CPU 2 Machine check error. + +So it looks like we have a hardware problem on this server, and we need +to contact Dell to use warranty to replace it. + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004408.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004405.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Wolfgang Bornath hat Sie zu seinen Kreisen hinzugefügt und zu Google+ eingeladen +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4404">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4404">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4404">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4404">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004405.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004405.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a63d726da --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004405.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] Wolfgang Bornath hat Sie zu seinen Kreisen hinzugefügt und zu Google+ eingeladen + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%3D%3Fiso-8859-1%3Fq%3FWolfgang_Bornath_hat_Sie_zu_seinen%3F%3D%0A%09%3D%3Fiso-8859-1%3Fq%3F_Kreisen_hinzugef%3DFCgt_und_zu_Google%2B__eingeladen%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3Cz13nv3eryxqlehzcw22kvrdzvzihyracn%40plus.google.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004404.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004406.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] Wolfgang Bornath hat Sie zu seinen Kreisen hinzugefügt und zu Google+ eingeladen</H1> + <B>Google+</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%3D%3Fiso-8859-1%3Fq%3FWolfgang_Bornath_hat_Sie_zu_seinen%3F%3D%0A%09%3D%3Fiso-8859-1%3Fq%3F_Kreisen_hinzugef%3DFCgt_und_zu_Google%2B__eingeladen%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3Cz13nv3eryxqlehzcw22kvrdzvzihyracn%40plus.google.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] Wolfgang Bornath hat Sie zu seinen Kreisen hinzugefügt und zu Google+ eingeladen">noreply-e7ec7783 at plus.google.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Apr 19 11:48:44 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004404.html">[Mageia-sysadm] sucuk rebooted +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004406.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-reports] Hobbit [771438] alamut.mageia.org:disk warning (YELLOW) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4405">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4405">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4405">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4405">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Wolfgang Bornath hat Sie zu seinen Kreisen hinzugefügt und zu Google+ +eingeladen. + +Hier klicken, um mit Google+ zu starten: +<A HREF="https://plus.google.com/_/notifications/ngemlink?&emid=CLCakp_RwK8CFWpcQAod-CIAAA&path=%2F%3Fgpinv%3DAMIXal99eMojRoCQX9zGxTu30ll4-hiTCntnDDcB-4vyRd_llNnq5st8IbO96AqOszyBPfTNqnsoKjEC9K8pP78o1OlpnnCL7DWE10KcoOkj6hoHaF3qon0&dt=1334828924702">https://plus.google.com/_/notifications/ngemlink?&emid=CLCakp_RwK8CFWpcQAod-CIAAA&path=%2F%3Fgpinv%3DAMIXal99eMojRoCQX9zGxTu30ll4-hiTCntnDDcB-4vyRd_llNnq5st8IbO96AqOszyBPfTNqnsoKjEC9K8pP78o1OlpnnCL7DWE10KcoOkj6hoHaF3qon0&dt=1334828924702</A> + +Mit Google+ fühlt sich das Teilen im Web ähnlich wie das Teilen im +richtigen Leben an. +------------------------ +Sie haben diese Nachricht erhalten, weil Wolfgang Bornath +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A> zu Google+ eingeladen hat. 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So we'll see if it's +</I>><i> > > updated tonight. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Is it possible that it does not get updated in case of network error or +</I>><i> > > other temporary problem ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > yes, definitely, since ordb::cpan::mageia fetches +</I>><i> > pkgcpan.mageia.org/cpan_Mageia.db +</I>><i> +</I>><i> still not updated since Sat Apr 7 15:06:54 2012. +</I> +ping? + +><i> also, please consider pushing latest svn mageia to infra repository. +</I> +ping? + + +finally, a move to perl.mageia.org? + +thanks, +jérôme +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004400.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004410.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4407">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4407">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4407">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4407">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004408.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004408.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..53df02eff --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004408.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%5Bsysadmin-commits%5D%20%5B2736%5D%20do%20not%20explictely%09set%0A%20the%20same%20value%20as%20default&In-Reply-To=%3C1335172266.15755.2.camel%40liliana.cdg.redhat.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004403.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004404.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%5Bsysadmin-commits%5D%20%5B2736%5D%20do%20not%20explictely%09set%0A%20the%20same%20value%20as%20default&In-Reply-To=%3C1335172266.15755.2.camel%40liliana.cdg.redhat.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Apr 23 11:11:06 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004403.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004404.html">[Mageia-sysadm] sucuk rebooted +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4408">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4408">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4408">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4408">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le dimanche 15 avril 2012 à 15:01 +0200, nicolas vigier a écrit : +><i> On Sun, 15 Apr 2012, Michael Scherer wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > And for the sake of coherence, the whole repository was cleaned a few +</I>><i> > months ago to have manifests without the same boilerplate, and no one +</I>><i> > commented, and there is nothing special in repoctl to be different. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I didn't see any mail on this mailing list about "cleaning". It would +</I>><i> have been nice to discuss the puppet style to use before changing +</I>><i> the whole repository. +</I> +I think we all would like to have our code being reused outside of our +infrastructure. And you are the one who try to push for a more direct +approach of reusability, as seen by GSOC Proposal, and various mail. +As seen in this thread, despites agreeing that sharing knowledge is a +good thing, the exact details on how to do it are still unspecified and +we ( as well as the whole puppet community ) didn't agree on how to do +it, ie there is problem to solve like "how to take in account different +packages name, how to take in account different puppet version", etc. + +But something rather clear is that the puppet community seems to agree +on a style guide, being recommended and followed by most people. + +For example, puppetlabs use this as a baseline to evaluate modules ( like on +<A HREF="http://puppetlabs.com/blog/module-of-the-week-benoitcattienginx-basic-nginx-configuration/">http://puppetlabs.com/blog/module-of-the-week-benoitcattienginx-basic-nginx-configuration/</A> ), +and is part of their recommendation ( <A HREF="http://puppetlabs.com/blog/writing-great-modules-an-introduction/">http://puppetlabs.com/blog/writing-great-modules-an-introduction/</A> ). + +( and in fact, you can often see reference to it on the blog ). + +So this looked to me the good thing to do, and that anyone would see the +work ( we have commit diff for that reason ) and would ask questions if +any. + +Puppet-lint also return problems that would bring issues when puppet 2.8 +will be out ( variable scoping issues ), and like any checking system, +would be ignored if there is a endless pile of false positive, or "stuff +that we do not care" ( I think that we have experimented enough with rpmlint on that +matter, with people no longer using it until we decided to make it mandatory ). +I also started to add a check for module name with +a -, as this should/would be forbidden for various reasons ( ie, parser +support it for now, but you cannot reference variable in it, and this +would likely break with puppet 2.8 ). + +So cleaning seemed to be a good thing to do for all thoses reasons, and still seem. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004403.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004404.html">[Mageia-sysadm] sucuk rebooted +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4408">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4408">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4408">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4408">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004409.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004409.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..33d839af1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004409.html @@ -0,0 +1,59 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] Les bonnes nouvelles + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FLes_bonnes_nouvelles%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3CBLU0-SMTP118CB263EF896BF0B2C355FD6210%40phx.gbl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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So we'll see if it's +</I>><i> > > > updated tonight. +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > Is it possible that it does not get updated in case of network error or +</I>><i> > > > other temporary problem ? +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > yes, definitely, since ordb::cpan::mageia fetches +</I>><i> > > pkgcpan.mageia.org/cpan_Mageia.db +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > still not updated since Sat Apr 7 15:06:54 2012. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ping? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > also, please consider pushing latest svn mageia to infra repository. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ping? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> finally, a move to perl.mageia.org? +</I> +ping? +i'd like the site to be up & running since some days before mageia 2 is +out... (this will allow to gather the statistics) + +thanks, +jérôme +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004407.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004399.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4410">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4410">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4410">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4410">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004411.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004411.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b43536890 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/004411.html @@ -0,0 +1,65 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-sysadm] qa Testing help needed for security update for quagga + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-sysadm%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-sysadm%5D%20qa%20Testing%20help%20needed%20for%20security%20update%20for%0A%09quagga&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.wdato3t8n7mcit%40hodgins.homeip.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004409.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004412.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] qa Testing help needed for security update for quagga</H1> + <B>David W. 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+</A><A NAME="4398"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004400.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4400"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004407.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4407"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004410.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4410"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004357.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4357"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004375.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4375"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004376.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4376"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004378.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4378"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004383.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4383"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004392.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4392"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004402.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A><A NAME="4402"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004408.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A><A NAME="4408"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004371.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A><A NAME="4371"> </A> +<I>Pascal Terjan +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004399.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4399"> </A> +<I>Pascal Terjan +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004415.html">[Mageia-sysadm] VERSION for mga2 still say "Mageia 1" +</A><A NAME="4415"> </A> +<I>Pascal Terjan +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004360.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4360"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004365.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4365"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004373.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4373"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004374.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4374"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004381.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4381"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004391.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4391"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004353.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4353"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004354.html">[Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages containing binaries should be rejected +</A><A NAME="4354"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004414.html">[Mageia-sysadm] VERSION for mga2 still say "Mageia 1" +</A><A NAME="4414"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004385.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4385"> </A> +<I>Marja van Waes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004356.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4356"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004359.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4359"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004362.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4362"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004377.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4377"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004393.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4393"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004409.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Les bonnes nouvelles +</A><A NAME="4409"> </A> +<I>jinpeter31 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004413.html">[Mageia-sysadm] bonjour +</A><A NAME="4413"> </A> +<I>michelesampaio +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004412.html">[Mageia-sysadm] bonjour +</A><A NAME="4412"> </A> +<I>otsnejla +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004366.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4366"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004367.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4367"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004358.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4358"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004361.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4361"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004363.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4363"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004368.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4368"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004379.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4379"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004382.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4382"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004384.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4384"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004387.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4387"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004388.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4388"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004395.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4395"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004396.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4396"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004401.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A><A NAME="4401"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004403.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A><A NAME="4403"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004404.html">[Mageia-sysadm] sucuk rebooted +</A><A NAME="4404"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004406.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-reports] Hobbit [771438] alamut.mageia.org:disk warning (YELLOW) +</A><A NAME="4406"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sun Apr 29 20:34:47 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Apr 29 20:35:06 CEST 2012</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/date.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/date.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0dbd7f39c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/date.html @@ -0,0 +1,362 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-sysadm April 2012 Archive by date</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>April 2012 Archives by date</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Apr 2 09:57:43 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Apr 29 20:34:47 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 63<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="004353.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4353"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004354.html">[Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages containing binaries should be rejected +</A><A NAME="4354"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004355.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A><A NAME="4355"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004356.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4356"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004357.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4357"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004358.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4358"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004359.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4359"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004360.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4360"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004362.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4362"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004361.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4361"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004363.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4363"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004364.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4364"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004365.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4365"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004366.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4366"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004367.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4367"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004368.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4368"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004369.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4369"> </A> +<I>Buchan Milne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004370.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A><A NAME="4370"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004371.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A><A NAME="4371"> </A> +<I>Pascal Terjan +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004372.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A><A NAME="4372"> </A> +<I>Manuel Hiebel +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004373.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4373"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004374.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4374"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004375.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4375"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004376.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4376"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004377.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4377"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004378.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4378"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004379.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4379"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004380.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4380"> </A> +<I>Patricia Fraser +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004381.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4381"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004382.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4382"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004383.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4383"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004384.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4384"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004385.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4385"> </A> +<I>Marja van Waes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004386.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4386"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004387.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4387"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004388.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4388"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004389.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4389"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004390.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4390"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004391.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4391"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004392.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4392"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004393.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4393"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004394.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4394"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004395.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4395"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004396.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4396"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004397.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4397"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004398.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4398"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004399.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4399"> </A> +<I>Pascal Terjan +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004400.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4400"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004401.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A><A NAME="4401"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004402.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A><A NAME="4402"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004403.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A><A NAME="4403"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004404.html">[Mageia-sysadm] sucuk rebooted +</A><A NAME="4404"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004405.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Wolfgang Bornath hat Sie zu seinen Kreisen hinzugefügt und zu Google+ eingeladen +</A><A NAME="4405"> </A> +<I>Google+ +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004406.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-reports] Hobbit [771438] alamut.mageia.org:disk warning (YELLOW) +</A><A NAME="4406"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004407.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4407"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004408.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A><A NAME="4408"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004409.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Les bonnes nouvelles +</A><A NAME="4409"> </A> +<I>jinpeter31 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004410.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4410"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004411.html">[Mageia-sysadm] qa Testing help needed for security update for quagga +</A><A NAME="4411"> </A> +<I>David W. Hodgins +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004412.html">[Mageia-sysadm] bonjour +</A><A NAME="4412"> </A> +<I>otsnejla +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004413.html">[Mageia-sysadm] bonjour +</A><A NAME="4413"> </A> +<I>michelesampaio +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004414.html">[Mageia-sysadm] VERSION for mga2 still say "Mageia 1" +</A><A NAME="4414"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004415.html">[Mageia-sysadm] VERSION for mga2 still say "Mageia 1" +</A><A NAME="4415"> </A> +<I>Pascal Terjan +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sun Apr 29 20:34:47 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Apr 29 20:35:06 CEST 2012</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/index.html new file mode 120000 index 000000000..db4b46f72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/index.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +thread.html
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/subject.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/subject.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6b56adc39 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2012-April/subject.html @@ -0,0 +1,362 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-sysadm April 2012 Archive by subject</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>April 2012 Archives by subject</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Apr 2 09:57:43 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Apr 29 20:34:47 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 63<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="004403.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A><A NAME="4403"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004408.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A><A NAME="4408"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004401.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A><A NAME="4401"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004402.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A><A NAME="4402"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004406.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-reports] Hobbit [771438] alamut.mageia.org:disk warning (YELLOW) +</A><A NAME="4406"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004412.html">[Mageia-sysadm] bonjour +</A><A NAME="4412"> </A> +<I>otsnejla +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004413.html">[Mageia-sysadm] bonjour +</A><A NAME="4413"> </A> +<I>michelesampaio +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004355.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A><A NAME="4355"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004353.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4353"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004360.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4360"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004361.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4361"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004365.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4365"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004367.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4367"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004373.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4373"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004409.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Les bonnes nouvelles +</A><A NAME="4409"> </A> +<I>jinpeter31 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004370.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A><A NAME="4370"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004371.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A><A NAME="4371"> </A> +<I>Pascal Terjan +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004372.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A><A NAME="4372"> </A> +<I>Manuel Hiebel +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004354.html">[Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages containing binaries should be rejected +</A><A NAME="4354"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004363.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4363"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004364.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4364"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004386.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4386"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004387.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4387"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004388.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4388"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004389.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4389"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004390.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4390"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004391.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4391"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004394.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4394"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004395.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4395"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004396.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4396"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004397.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4397"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004398.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4398"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004399.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4399"> </A> +<I>Pascal Terjan +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004400.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4400"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004407.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4407"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004410.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4410"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004411.html">[Mageia-sysadm] qa Testing help needed for security update for quagga +</A><A NAME="4411"> </A> +<I>David W. Hodgins +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004358.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4358"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004368.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4368"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004356.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4356"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004357.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4357"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004359.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4359"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004362.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4362"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004366.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4366"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004369.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4369"> </A> +<I>Buchan Milne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004374.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4374"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004375.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4375"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004376.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4376"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004377.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4377"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004378.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4378"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004392.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4392"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004393.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4393"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004379.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4379"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004380.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4380"> </A> +<I>Patricia Fraser +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004381.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4381"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004382.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4382"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004383.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4383"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004384.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4384"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004385.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4385"> </A> +<I>Marja van Waes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004404.html">[Mageia-sysadm] sucuk rebooted +</A><A NAME="4404"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004414.html">[Mageia-sysadm] VERSION for mga2 still say "Mageia 1" +</A><A NAME="4414"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004415.html">[Mageia-sysadm] VERSION for mga2 still say "Mageia 1" +</A><A NAME="4415"> </A> +<I>Pascal Terjan +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004405.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Wolfgang Bornath hat Sie zu seinen Kreisen hinzugefügt und zu Google+ eingeladen +</A><A NAME="4405"> </A> +<I>Google+ +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sun Apr 29 20:34:47 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Apr 29 20:35:06 CEST 2012</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ 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date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Apr 2 09:57:43 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Apr 29 20:34:47 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 63<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01333353463- --> +<LI><A HREF="004353.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4353"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01333353463-01333383660- --> +<LI><A HREF="004360.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4360"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01333353463-01333383660-01333384204- --> +<LI><A HREF="004361.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4361"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01333353463-01333383660-01333384204-01333389443- --> +<LI><A HREF="004365.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4365"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--3 01333353463-01333383660-01333384204-01333389443-01333394333- --> +<LI><A HREF="004367.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4367"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01333353463-01333383660-01333384204-01333389443-01333394333-01333407445- --> +<LI><A HREF="004373.html">[Mageia-sysadm] is the svn server down? +</A><A NAME="4373"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01333355830- --> +<LI><A HREF="004354.html">[Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages containing binaries should be rejected +</A><A NAME="4354"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<!--0 01333372876- --> +<LI><A HREF="004355.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-discuss] (no subject) +</A><A NAME="4355"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<!--0 01333373005- --> +<LI><A HREF="004356.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4356"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01333373005-01333378799- --> +<LI><A HREF="004357.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4357"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01333373005-01333378799-01333382568- --> +<LI><A HREF="004359.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4359"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01333373005-01333378799-01333382568-01333393230- --> +<LI><A HREF="004366.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4366"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01333373005-01333378799-01333382568-01333393230-01333417003- --> +<LI><A HREF="004374.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4374"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--3 01333373005-01333378799-01333382568-01333393230-01333417003-01333432428- --> +<LI><A HREF="004375.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4375"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01333373005-01333378799-01333382568-01333393230-01333442079- --> +<LI><A HREF="004377.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4377"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<!--3 01333373005-01333378799-01333382568-01333393230-01333442079-01333456728- --> +<LI><A HREF="004378.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4378"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01333373005-01333378799-01333382568-01333393230-01333442079-01333707163- --> +<LI><A HREF="004392.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4392"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01333373005-01333378799-01333382568-01333393230-01333442079-01333707163-01333709288- --> +<LI><A HREF="004393.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A><A NAME="4393"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01333373005-01333378799-01333397579- --> +<LI><A 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+<LI><A HREF="004363.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4363"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01333386560-01333388508- --> +<LI><A HREF="004364.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4364"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01333386560-01333388508-01333531734- --> +<LI><A HREF="004386.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4386"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01333386560-01333388508-01333531734-01333635245- --> +<LI><A HREF="004387.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4387"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<!--3 01333386560-01333388508-01333531734-01333635245-01333636256- --> +<LI><A HREF="004388.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4388"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<!--3 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01333386560-01333388508-01333531734-01333635245-01333636256-01333639409-01333648580-01333803419-01333804685-01333814740-01334335645-01334998875-01335180158- --> +<LI><A HREF="004410.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4410"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<!--3 01333386560-01333388508-01333531734-01333635245-01333636256-01333639409-01333648580-01333803419-01333804685-01333815927- --> +<LI><A HREF="004399.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4399"> </A> +<I>Pascal Terjan +</I> + +<!--3 01333386560-01333388508-01333531734-01333635245-01333636256-01333639409-01333649060- --> +<LI><A HREF="004391.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4391"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--3 01333386560-01333388508-01333531734-01333635245-01333636256-01333639409-01333805725- --> +<LI><A HREF="004396.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4396"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<!--3 01333386560-01333388508-01333531734-01333635245-01333636256-01333639409-01333805725-01333814796- --> +<LI><A HREF="004398.html">[Mageia-sysadm] perl modules shipped by mageia - the web site! +</A><A NAME="4398"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01333402804- --> +<LI><A HREF="004370.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A><A NAME="4370"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01333402804-01333405822- --> +<LI><A HREF="004371.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A><A NAME="4371"> </A> +<I>Pascal Terjan +</I> + +<!--1 01333402804-01333406229- --> +<LI><A HREF="004372.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Noarch package missing on i586 (again) +</A><A NAME="4372"> </A> +<I>Manuel Hiebel +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01333457957- --> +<LI><A HREF="004379.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Storage space on mageia servers +</A><A NAME="4379"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<UL> 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servers +</A><A NAME="4384"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01334450495- --> +<LI><A HREF="004401.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A><A NAME="4401"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01334450495-01334493357- --> +<LI><A HREF="004402.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A><A NAME="4402"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01334450495-01334493357-01334494888- --> +<LI><A HREF="004403.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A><A NAME="4403"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01334450495-01334493357-01334494888-01335172266- --> +<LI><A HREF="004408.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-commits] [2736] do not explictely set the same value as default +</A><A NAME="4408"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01334760101- --> +<LI><A HREF="004404.html">[Mageia-sysadm] sucuk rebooted +</A><A NAME="4404"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<!--0 01334828924- --> +<LI><A HREF="004405.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Wolfgang Bornath hat Sie zu seinen Kreisen hinzugefügt und zu Google+ eingeladen +</A><A NAME="4405"> </A> +<I>Google+ +</I> + +<!--0 01334933324- --> +<LI><A HREF="004406.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [sysadmin-reports] Hobbit [771438] alamut.mageia.org:disk warning (YELLOW) +</A><A NAME="4406"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<!--0 01335174778- --> +<LI><A HREF="004409.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Les bonnes nouvelles +</A><A NAME="4409"> </A> +<I>jinpeter31 +</I> + +<!--0 01335319877- --> +<LI><A HREF="004411.html">[Mageia-sysadm] qa Testing help needed for security update for quagga +</A><A NAME="4411"> </A> +<I>David W. Hodgins +</I> + +<!--0 01335412162- --> +<LI><A HREF="004412.html">[Mageia-sysadm] bonjour +</A><A NAME="4412"> </A> +<I>otsnejla +</I> + +<!--0 01335445057- --> +<LI><A HREF="004413.html">[Mageia-sysadm] bonjour +</A><A NAME="4413"> </A> +<I>michelesampaio +</I> + +<!--0 01335723490- --> +<LI><A HREF="004414.html">[Mageia-sysadm] VERSION for mga2 still say "Mageia 1" +</A><A NAME="4414"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01335723490-01335724487- --> +<LI><A HREF="004415.html">[Mageia-sysadm] VERSION for mga2 still say "Mageia 1" +</A><A NAME="4415"> </A> +<I>Pascal Terjan +</I> + +</UL> + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sun Apr 29 20:34:47 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Apr 29 20:35:06 CEST 2012</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |