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That's exactly this other view that I'm asking for. +Because it makes sense to know what the "buildsystem" chunk/unit +costs, as a whole, in storage/bandwidth/hosting options, in comparison +with the "user accounts" one, with the "Web sites" one, with the +"mailing-lists" one, etc. so that we can consider different hosting +options for each of them. + +It makes sense too to have a dependencies graph at some level to +quickly explain/see how our infrastructure components work with each +other. + +Because, these considerations need to be understood/thought out/taken +also by people that are _not_ sysadmins, such as persons that may +focus on organizing our financial resources or contacts or donations +for that end. + +Think about this as "enabling other community members to grasp what it +takes to make Mageia.org function and to contribute means to that +end". + +For instance, if we can have functional chunks, we may decide: + - which ones are critical (and should be moved to a solution that has +the greatest possible availability): for instance LDAP, identity, +mailing-lists, www, blogs; + - which ones may more safely shutdown without shutting down other +independent services from a functional point of view; (for instance, +buildsystem could go down without injuring the code repository itself, +or the mailing-lists; code repositories may shut down too, if a later, +read-only copy is available somewhere else + - which ones may be redundant and how. + +Yes, of course, some systems already split up like this (www, blog, +ldap are not in Marseille here). But apart from sysadmin, no one +knows. No one knows either what are the plans. + +Splitting by function, dependency seems a good way to know what the +system does, and how we can lay it out, not in one or two data +centers, but more globally. + +Thanks for your figures, I'll start compiling bits, but that's just a start. +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004357.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004366.html">[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup & costs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4359">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4359">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4359">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4359">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |