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Handbooks are fully part of a kde install; they should be +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>>><i> installed, and shouldn't be removed. A kde install without handbooks +</I>>>>>>><i> is a +</I>>>>>>><i> damaged kde install. Do you think that the kde doc team will continue +</I>>>>>>><i> to +</I>>>>>>><i> work on handbooks if each distrib don't install its work? +</I>>>>>>><i> That's why, personally I think the exact opposite; each component +</I>>>>>>><i> should +</I>>>>>>><i> *requires* its handbook (but probably it won't work with LiveCD). +</I>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> I don't agree. You seem to first take for granted that a user of the +</I>>>>><i> KDE desktop also uses all the applications and second you mistake +</I>>>>><i> "good to have" for "must have". I'm using KDE but only few KDE +</I>>>>><i> applications - so why do I need a handbook for kppp or knode or kmail +</I>>>>><i> when I don't even install these applications? +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I agree, and that's why I said "each component should requires its +</I>>>><i> handbook", meaning kdebase4-workspace requires kdebase4-workspace-handbooks, +</I>>>><i> kmail requires kmail-handbook, ... +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Currently, each component suggests its handbook (needed for LiveCD). +</I>>>><i> If we use only suggests for handbooks, the handbooks are missing on DVD +</I>>>><i> iso (because DVD iso doesn't include suggests), so that handbooks are never +</I>>>><i> installed with a DVD install, and all the kde docs will be missing by +</I>>>><i> default. +</I>>>><i> For now, I don't have a perfect solution to this problem. +</I>>>><i> To workaround this, I added a task-kde4-handbooks that REQUIRES the +</I>>>><i> handbooks for kde's components that are installed by a default mageia kde +</I>>>><i> install. I know that it's not perfect. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I'm open to a better solution, but I really want to avoid that the +</I>>>><i> handbooks are not installed on most of mageia's install. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> regards, +</I>>>><i> Luc +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> A suggestion from a non-kde user. +</I>>><i> Why not put task-kde4-handbooks on the dvd, but not have it required by kde +</I>>><i> ? +</I>>><i> That way, selecting kde (without selecting task-kde4-handbooks) won't pull +</I>>><i> in all handbooks, only those required by the kde packages actually +</I>>><i> installed. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> That's only half the solution. Example: I install kcalc or a simple +</I>><i> KDE patience game - why do I want to have the handbooks? So, ok, if +</I>><i> DVD does not include suggests and to avoid letting users pull the +</I>><i> handbook from the net after system installation, then at least it must +</I>><i> be possible to uninstall handbooks no matter if the matching +</I>><i> application is installed or not. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Meaning, without knowing the technical solution: if it is unavoidable +</I>><i> to get the handbooks installed by dependency I still expect to be able +</I>><i> to easily uninstall every handbook I want without having to use 'rpm +</I>><i> -e --nodeps' on each one. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>I see your point. It certainly would be better if there were an easy +non-technical means of deselecting a handbook when installing an +application. +However, I do think that it would be better to install the corresponding +handbook by default. +We could use a tree-type selection for closely related modules. (With +rpmdrake or similar graphical interface.) +If one wants everything, select the root application and install. +If not, then deselect the unwanted modules before install. +In addition to modifying rpmdrake, we would have to establish how this +would be coded in the spec files or package names, etc. +We would have to consider aspects such as language files, etc. + +-- +André + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6940">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6940">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6940">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6940">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006941.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006941.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a81313c8d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006941.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] GUI-based bugzilla? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20GUI-based%20bugzilla%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CdA.dD1%40r78.nl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007775.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006942.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] GUI-based bugzilla?</H1> + <B>Remco Rijnders</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20GUI-based%20bugzilla%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CdA.dD1%40r78.nl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] GUI-based bugzilla?">remco at webconquest.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 06:34:30 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006942.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6941">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6941">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6941">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6941">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 10:34:35PM +0200, Kristoffer wrote in +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">CAF8zTzNqAFoiQ2PYc8AWmoCUk3ayP1HdVoLQT-3gX1T2Zjr+ew at mail.gmail.com</A>>: +><i>I made a wishreport about turning either ABRT or bug-buddy into a GUI-form. +</I>><i>Who's with me on that idea? /Kristoffer +</I> +Hi, + +It seems the mailinglist software stripped off the patch implementing +this. 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Bulgrien</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C201204100733.16830.kbulgrien%40att.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">kbulgrien at att.net + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 14:33:16 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006941.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI-based bugzilla? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006943.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6942">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6942">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6942">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6942">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sunday, April 08, 2012 06:46:37 am Morgan Leijström wrote: +><i> söndagen den 8 april 2012 12.54.04 skrev Wolfgang Bornath: +</I>><i> > maybe there is a reason to login to a gui as root - although in +</I>><i> > all my 17 years of Linux I haven't heard one. And I have never heard +</I>><i> > about any sysadmin who did it with a reason. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Lazyness in my case. Or call it efficiency cause of scarce time. +</I>><i> I want machines to work for me, do not have all hours to learn everything. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can not learn everything, even less remember it. +</I>><i> A GUI session often have lots of useable tools to see what is going on, web +</I>><i> browser to read documentation of what i am trying to do, can copy to +</I>><i> virtual terminal, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That is why even my server always runs KDE (but not as root) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Um... when i think about it i have not used GUI as root for a year or so, +</I>><i> but it was a time saver in the beginning and i might have given up on +</I>><i> Linux without it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is the few sysadmin hours of an own smalll company owner and home +</I>><i> server. +</I> +A quick google of "run x as root" shows up good advice that has +existed for a very long time. One example is: + +<A HREF="http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XWindow-User-HOWTO/xsecurity.html">http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XWindow-User-HOWTO/xsecurity.html</A> + +This kind of laziness is dangerous. Even the discipline of not being on +the internet at the time is a false fix. Anything that has security issues +can modify the security of the local network, install malware, or +damage critical files, etc. + +A shell in non-root X can easily attain root for GUI applications - not just +CLI instructions. + +Sure, it is less direct to look at the GUI menu to figure out how to invoke +some of the tools, but it can be a one-time effort that has a side effect of +increasing knowledge of the tools one uses to administer a system easily +and safely. + +I am not so much in a different position as you are, and I can probably +count on my hands how many times I ran X as root since Mandriva 7.2, +and I think that was too many. + +Kevin Bulgrien +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006941.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI-based bugzilla? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006943.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6942">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6942">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6942">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6942">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006943.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006943.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..76e9341c1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006943.html @@ -0,0 +1,119 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj6w%3DXXcw5ksC03%3D_faa2peXCp2JPSFKtLjqB6eeqKCkig%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006942.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006944.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj6w%3DXXcw5ksC03%3D_faa2peXCp2JPSFKtLjqB6eeqKCkig%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 15:17:20 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006942.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006944.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6943">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6943">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6943">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6943">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2012/4/10 Kevin R. Bulgrien <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kbulgrien at att.net</A>>: +><i> On Sunday, April 08, 2012 06:46:37 am Morgan Leijström wrote: +</I>>><i> söndagen den 8 april 2012 12.54.04 skrev  Wolfgang Bornath: +</I>>><i> > maybe there is a reason to login to a gui as root - although in +</I>>><i> > all my 17 years of Linux I haven't heard one. And I have never heard +</I>>><i> > about any sysadmin who did it with a reason. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Lazyness in my case. Or call it efficiency cause of scarce time. +</I>>><i> I want machines to work for me, do not have all hours to learn everything. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I can not learn everything, even less remember it. +</I>>><i> A GUI session often have lots of useable tools to see what is going on, web +</I>>><i> browser to read documentation of what i am trying to do, can copy to +</I>>><i> virtual terminal, etc. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> That is why even my server always runs KDE (but not as root) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Um... when i think about it i have not used GUI as root for a year or so, +</I>>><i> but it was a time saver in the beginning and i might have given up on +</I>>><i> Linux without it. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This is the few sysadmin hours of an own smalll company owner and home +</I>>><i> server. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A quick google of "run x as root" shows up good advice that has +</I>><i> existed for a very long time.  One example is: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XWindow-User-HOWTO/xsecurity.html">http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XWindow-User-HOWTO/xsecurity.html</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This kind of laziness is dangerous.  Even the discipline of not being on +</I>><i> the internet at the time is a false fix.  Anything that has security issues +</I>><i> can modify the security of the local network, install malware, or +</I>><i> damage critical files, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A shell in non-root X can easily attain root for GUI applications - not just +</I>><i> CLI instructions. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sure, it is less direct to look at the GUI menu to figure out how to invoke +</I>><i> some of the tools, but it can be a one-time effort that has a side effect of +</I>><i> increasing knowledge of the tools one uses to administer a system easily +</I>><i> and safely. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I am not so much in a different position as you are, and I can probably +</I>><i> count on my hands how many times I ran X as root since Mandriva 7.2, +</I>><i> and I think that was too many. +</I> +Since my first Mandrake in 1998 (even before with SuSE and RedHat and +Debian I did it exactly 1 time - that was after the change to a red +background and it took only a couple of seconds and involved no action +except shutdown, I just wanted to see the red background :) + +Well (not wasting too much time on this), everybody can do what he +wants - if he has the knowledge to change the configuration to be able +to login to KDE or Gnome as root, he should have the knowledge not to +do it. This hurdle which was implemented is a good idea to prevent +less experienced people doing it all the time just because of +laziness. So I'm not too happy about broadcasting how it works. + +OTOH, we are not the security admins of the user's mind. :) + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006942.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006944.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6943">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6943">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6943">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6943">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006944.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006944.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..62149cebb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006944.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C201204101019.27570.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006943.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006947.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C201204101019.27570.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 16:19:27 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006943.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006947.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6944">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6944">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6944">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6944">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tuesday 10 Apr 2012 09:17 my mailbox was graced by a message from Wolfgang +Bornath who wrote: +><i> This hurdle which was implemented is a good idea to prevent +</I>><i> less experienced people doing it all the time just because of +</I>><i> laziness. So I'm not too happy about broadcasting how it works. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> OTOH, we are not the security admins of the user's mind. :) +</I> +And remember too that Linux is all about user's choice; none of the "We are +XXXXX of Borg, resistance is futile, you will do exactly what we tell you". + +Cheers, + +Ron. +-- + Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you + recognize a mistake when you make it again. + -- Franklin P. 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KDE has its own crash reporter, and I once had a +bug report generated by MCC. I don't use Gnome. + +Doug. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006956.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6945">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6945">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6945">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6945">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006946.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006946.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..46061494c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006946.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C201204110055.32555.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006945.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006948.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot</H1> + <B>Doug Laidlaw</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C201204110055.32555.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 16:55:32 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006945.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI-based bugzilla? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6946">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6946">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6946">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6946">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:00:02 PM Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: +><i> On Sunday 11 Mar 2012 08:59 my mailbox was graced by a message from +</I>><i> Dimitrios +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Glentadakis who wrote: +</I>><i> > As when you get any product it comes with its manual, i believe that the +</I>><i> > handbook of an application is a must have, and an application should +</I>><i> > never be installed without its documentation. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Some people do not need or want the doc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Having installed Mageia on an EeePC with 2GB total disk space (to have with +</I>><i> me when I travel) I certainly do not want to waste disk space with docs +</I>><i> I'll probably never need, and which I can download and install in a couple +</I>><i> minutes in case I really need them. +</I>><i> +</I>FWIW, my personal view is that the docs are often easier to access online. At +least one app I use, installs HTML docs, but requires root privileges to +access them. + +I can see the philosophical point about "the instructions come with the +product," but practical considerations should come first. Often a man page is +enough, and the Debian project seems to have written man pages where the +original package lacks them. + +Doug. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006945.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI-based bugzilla? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6946">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6946">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6946">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6946">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006947.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006947.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b8df38303 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006947.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F844A76.10109%40kde.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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none of +</I>><i> the "We are XXXXX of Borg, resistance is futile, you will do +</I>><i> exactly what we tell you". +</I> +True indeed, but if someone wants to commit suicide we do have a moral +duty not to supply the gun and teach him how to load it. + +Anne +- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <A HREF="http://enigmail.mozdev.org/">http://enigmail.mozdev.org/</A> + +iEYEARECAAYFAk+ESLAACgkQj93fyh4cnBcyGwCff1mvGfyygIHvCT/rp720DXhZ +dD8AnRTcGCnzQ9uMdPwrGJvrBazDnCO3 +=pVwC +- -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <A HREF="http://enigmail.mozdev.org/">http://enigmail.mozdev.org/</A> + +iEYEARECAAYFAk+ESnIACgkQj93fyh4cnBda0ACeI709cHHKF9Ydseht1q8w6s69 +sEgAnj0cCPrE47WICcB3POEp1vxBHoMi +=DJHq +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006944.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006949.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6947">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6947">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6947">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6947">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006948.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006948.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d3ee0d624 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006948.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C4F844F5B.2040506%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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At +</I>><i> least one app I use, installs HTML docs, but requires root privileges to +</I>><i> access them. +</I>><i> +</I> +That is a bug, which is easily corrected. You should file a bug report +when you encounter such a case. +><i> Doug. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>-- +André + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006953.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6948">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6948">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6948">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6948">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006949.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006949.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dca8c9e70 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006949.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj4xU1n4JCh%2BDR9KiX%3DaTZxBMhk7Dw_6fEsUDFMpNGWZdw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006947.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006951.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj4xU1n4JCh%2BDR9KiX%3DaTZxBMhk7Dw_6fEsUDFMpNGWZdw%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 17:25:35 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006947.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006951.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6949">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6949">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6949">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6949">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2012/4/10 Anne Wilson <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> On 10/04/12 15:19, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: +</I>>><i> And remember too that Linux is all about user's choice; none of +</I>>><i> the "We are XXXXX of Borg, resistance is futile, you will do +</I>>><i> exactly what we tell you". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> True indeed, but if someone wants to commit suicide we do have a moral +</I>><i> duty not to supply the gun and teach him how to load it. +</I> +Except for society's sake! :) + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006947.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006951.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6949">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6949">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6949">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6949">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006950.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006950.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ebdea6639 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006950.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C201204101733.18303.cooker%40solbu.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006961.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006956.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C201204101733.18303.cooker%40solbu.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">cooker at solbu.net + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 17:33:14 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006961.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006956.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6950">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6950">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6950">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6950">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tuesday 10 April 2012 15:17, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +><i> it took only a couple of seconds and involved no action +</I>><i> except shutdown, I just wanted to see the red background  :) +</I> +I remember I did the same, for the same reason. :-)= + +-- +Johnny A. 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I would say +that if KDM supports this, and a sysadmin wants it, it's not our place +to remove the feature unconditionally. + +What do we break next ? Remote X logins ? +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006949.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006955.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6951">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6951">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6951">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6951">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006952.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006952.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e50fe05cb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006952.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New artwork + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20artwork&In-Reply-To=%3C201204110155.47433.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006953.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006954.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New artwork</H1> + <B>Doug Laidlaw</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20artwork&In-Reply-To=%3C201204110155.47433.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New artwork">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 17:55:47 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006953.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006954.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6952">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6952">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6952">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6952">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I find the new artwork that is coming down for Cauldron, very pleasing. The +theme for the login screen is repeated in the default wallpaper, and no longer +reminds me of a sheet of dimpled metal -- like my auto grease tray, only finer. + +Doug. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006953.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006954.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6952">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6952">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6952">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6952">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006953.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006953.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dc1ba91e8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006953.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F84570C.8030105%40mindspring.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006948.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006952.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>Rolf Pedersen</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F84570C.8030105%40mindspring.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">rolfpedersen at mindspring.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 17:51:40 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006952.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6953">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6953">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6953">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6953">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 04/10/2012 08:25 AM, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> wrote: +><i> 2012/4/10 Anne Wilson <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>>: +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > On 10/04/12 15:19, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: +</I>>>><i> >> And remember too that Linux is all about user's choice; none of +</I>>>><i> >> the "We are XXXXX of Borg, resistance is futile, you will do +</I>>>><i> >> exactly what we tell you". +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > True indeed, but if someone wants to commit suicide we do have a moral +</I>>><i> > duty not to supply the gun and teach him how to load it. +</I>It seems to me there are consequences from "user's choice" resulting in +a machine distributing spam, bots, malware, +including damage to the reputation/adoption of FOSS, that reach beyond +the demise of one individual. 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+ +Good to hear. :) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006952.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006957.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6954">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6954">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6954">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6954">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006955.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006955.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4a94f9e85 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006955.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj5LfiZnuK-4CfcEvL72MGs%3DNC1AiAtx%3DsEAR6oX7BhPgw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006951.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006964.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj5LfiZnuK-4CfcEvL72MGs%3DNC1AiAtx%3DsEAR6oX7BhPgw%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 18:11:40 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006951.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006964.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6955">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6955">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6955">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6955">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2012/4/10 Frank Griffin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>>: +><i> On 04/10/2012 11:25 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 2012/4/10 Anne Wilson<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>>: +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> On 10/04/12 15:19, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> And remember too that Linux is all about user's choice; none of +</I>>>>><i> the "We are XXXXX of Borg, resistance is futile, you will do +</I>>>>><i> exactly what we tell you". +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> True indeed, but if someone wants to commit suicide we do have a moral +</I>>>><i> duty not to supply the gun and teach him how to load it. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Except for society's sake! :) +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There is a big difference between turning something off by default and +</I>><i> deliberately breaking an upstream feature that can only be enabled by +</I>><i> someone knowledgeable enough to edit a configuration file.  I would say that +</I>><i> if KDM supports this, and a sysadmin wants it, it's not our place to remove +</I>><i> the feature unconditionally. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What do we break next ? Remote X logins ? +</I> +Common sense? Oh, wait, this is usually broken by people who put +principles above common sense. Pls lets put aside with such things +like "freedom and choice by all means and don't deny me my suicide!" +or "Upstream rules above everything!". Pls let common sense rule. This +is not a technical issue, so let's switch on reason. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006951.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006964.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6955">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6955">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6955">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6955">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006956.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006956.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..db9153b0e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006956.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F845C67.2050201%40kde.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006950.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006945.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>Anne Wilson</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F845C67.2050201%40kde.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">annew at kde.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 18:14:31 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006950.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006945.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI-based bugzilla? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6956">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6956">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6956">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6956">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +On 10/04/12 16:33, Johnny A. Solbu wrote: +><i> On Tuesday 10 April 2012 15:17, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +</I>>><i> it took only a couple of seconds and involved no action except +</I>>><i> shutdown, I just wanted to see the red background :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I remember I did the same, for the same reason. :-)= +</I>><i> +</I>I did it once, too, not knowing any different at that time. The red +background did its intended job - giving me the message without a +word! :-) I shut it down and asked on the mailing list what I should +be doing instead. + +Anne + +- -- +Need KDE help? Try +<A HREF="http://userbase.kde.org">http://userbase.kde.org</A> or +<A HREF="http://forum.kde.org">http://forum.kde.org</A> +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <A HREF="http://enigmail.mozdev.org/">http://enigmail.mozdev.org/</A> + +iEYEARECAAYFAk+EXF8ACgkQj93fyh4cnBfc1ACfSBKaRK5dmheQnCbVLBq+3QdR +UK4AoILBwRYO5ikrH1J+dzFSCbyajOwJ +=RcQ7 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006950.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006945.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI-based bugzilla? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6956">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6956">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6956">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6956">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006957.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006957.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..00a37f565 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006957.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New artwork + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20artwork&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj6NFiLAw7vfbJ_60GBov%2Bd%3DkaQguikZKsLzyzkZpvY8Jw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006954.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006960.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New artwork</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20artwork&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj6NFiLAw7vfbJ_60GBov%2Bd%3DkaQguikZKsLzyzkZpvY8Jw%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New artwork">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 18:14:58 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006954.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006960.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6957">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6957">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6957">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6957">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2012/4/10 Donald Stewart <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> On 10 April 2012 16:55, Doug Laidlaw <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> I find the new artwork that is coming down for Cauldron, very pleasing.  The +</I>>><i> theme for the login screen is repeated in the default wallpaper, and no longer +</I>>><i> reminds me of a sheet of dimpled metal -- like my auto grease tray, only finer. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Doug. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> KDm or GDM? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Good to hear. :) +</I> +Oh, great! If you had not commented this change I would not have noticed! +(No joke! Usually I don't look at backgrounds.) + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006954.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006960.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6957">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6957">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6957">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6957">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006958.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006958.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..25d66e38f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006958.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New artwork + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20artwork&In-Reply-To=%3CCAPn0va615K4XVPPU%2BF7PwZyby%3DbXkXzwTdR%2BJWvYHcpvcwR_QA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006960.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006963.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] New artwork</H1> + <B>Donald Stewart</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20artwork&In-Reply-To=%3CCAPn0va615K4XVPPU%2BF7PwZyby%3DbXkXzwTdR%2BJWvYHcpvcwR_QA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] New artwork">watersnowrock at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 18:25:25 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006960.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006963.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6958">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6958">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6958">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6958">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Same, I never notice the changes..... + +On 10 Apr 2012 17:15, "Wolfgang Bornath" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: + +2012/4/10 Donald Stewart <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>>: + +><i> On 10 April 2012 16:55, Doug Laidlaw <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> I find the new artwork tha... +</I>Oh, great! If you had not commented this change I would not have noticed! +(No joke! Usually I don't look at backgrounds.) + +-- +wobo +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120410/fc922111/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006960.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006963.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6958">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6958">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6958">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6958">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006959.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006959.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0b0b88923 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006959.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C201204101945.15465.alien%40rmail.be%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006964.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006962.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C201204101945.15465.alien%40rmail.be%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">alien at rmail.be + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 19:45:15 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006964.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006962.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6959">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6959">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6959">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6959">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op dinsdag 10 april 2012 17:49:42 schreef Frank Griffin: +><i> On 04/10/2012 11:25 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +</I>><i> > 2012/4/10 Anne Wilson<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>>: +</I>><i> >> On 10/04/12 15:19, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: +</I>><i> >>> And remember too that Linux is all about user's choice; none of +</I>><i> >>> the "We are XXXXX of Borg, resistance is futile, you will do +</I>><i> >>> exactly what we tell you". +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> True indeed, but if someone wants to commit suicide we do have a moral +</I>><i> >> duty not to supply the gun and teach him how to load it. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Except for society's sake! :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There is a big difference between turning something off by default and +</I>><i> deliberately breaking an upstream feature that can only be enabled by +</I>><i> someone knowledgeable enough to edit a configuration file. I would say +</I>><i> that if KDM supports this, and a sysadmin wants it, it's not our place +</I>><i> to remove the feature unconditionally. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What do we break next ? Remote X logins ? +</I> +iinm it started as a technical issue and noone stepped up to want to maintain +this feature, so it's not there. + +this besides that it's a bad idea, of course... + +we need to keep every choice open, but we need to restrict the newbie by +default. someone who knows what he's doing can likely get this to work, after +makeing some changes... but i'm not gonna spend time on it. +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006964.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006962.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6959">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6959">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6959">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6959">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006960.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006960.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d5acc331c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006960.html @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] New artwork + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20New%20artwork&In-Reply-To=%3Cloom.20120410T213530-700%40post.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I assumed that that meant +it was a feature supplied as part of KDM. Are you saying that it was a +MDV/MGA extension to start with, and that it was withdrawn because we no +longer wanted to support it ? + +If so, that throws a whole new light on the issue. I thought it was a +case of some recent change to forcibly disable the feature even though +the upstream code supported it. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006959.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006961.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6962">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6962">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6962">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6962">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006963.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006963.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c06445309 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006963.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F849B5D.7070101%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006958.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F849B5D.7070101%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 22:43:09 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006958.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6963">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6963">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6963">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6963">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 04/10/2012 12:26 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +><i> 2012/4/10 Frank Griffin<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> On 04/10/2012 12:11 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +</I>>>><i> Common sense? Oh, wait, this is usually broken by people who put +</I>>>><i> principles above common sense. Pls lets put aside with such things like +</I>>>><i> "freedom and choice by all means and don't deny me my suicide!" or "Upstream +</I>>>><i> rules above everything!". Pls let common sense rule. This is not a technical +</I>>>><i> issue, so let's switch on reason. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I have no problem with disabling DM support for root login by default, or +</I>>><i> not documenting how to enable it, or having the red screen. That's common +</I>>><i> sense. Deliberately breaking a feature with which you don't agree is just +</I>>><i> plain high-handed and intrusive. +</I>><i> Then you have a problem here. Mageia does the former, to which you +</I>><i> agree as being common sense. But at the same time you call this common +</I>><i> sense "plain high-handed and intrusive". +</I>><i> +</I> +IINM, the OP said that he went into kdmrc and manually changed the +keyword he needed in order to enable DM root login, but that KDM had +been changed to ignore that keyword no matter what the setting in kdmrc. + +Having the keyword set to disable the feature is common sense. Patching +KDM to refuse to acknowledge it even if it's enabled is not. + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006958.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6963">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6963">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6963">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6963">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006964.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006964.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..407449fcd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/006964.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F849BEF.7000405%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006955.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006959.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20beta2%20woes%20and%20no%20graphical%20root%20%28tonyb%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F849BEF.7000405%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 22:45:35 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006955.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006959.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6964">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6964">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6964">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6964">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 04/10/2012 12:11 PM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +><i> Common sense? Oh, wait, this is usually broken by people who put +</I>><i> principles above common sense. Pls lets put aside with such things +</I>><i> like "freedom and choice by all means and don't deny me my suicide!" +</I>><i> or "Upstream rules above everything!". Pls let common sense rule. This +</I>><i> is not a technical issue, so let's switch on reason. +</I> +I have no problem with disabling DM support for root login by default, +or not documenting how to enable it, or having the red screen. That's +common sense. Deliberately breaking a feature with which you don't +agree is just plain high-handed and intrusive. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006955.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006959.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6964">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6964">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6964">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6964">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/007775.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/007775.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6ea07f138 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/007775.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C201204100602.31316.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006940.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006941.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot</H1> + <B>Renaud Olgiati</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C201204100602.31316.renaud%40olgiati-in-paraguay.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Apr 10 12:04:43 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006940.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006941.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI-based bugzilla? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7775">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7775">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7775">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7775">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Monday 09 Apr 2012 22:24 my mailbox was graced by a message from andre999 +who wrote: +><i> I see your point. It certainly would be better if there were an easy +</I>><i> non-technical means of deselecting a handbook when installing an +</I>><i> application. +</I> +For the technically minded, where are the handbook stored ? + +It would be simple to replace that dir with a linl to /dev/null ;-3) + +Za+ + +Renaud. +-- + I have the simplest tastes: + I am always satisfied with the best. + -- Oscar Wilde + + -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> -- + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006940.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006941.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI-based bugzilla? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7775">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7775">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7775">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7775">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ddb2de3d7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,177 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 10 April 2012 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>10 April 2012 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Apr 10 04:24:13 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Apr 10 22:45:35 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 26<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="006943.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6943"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006949.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6949"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006955.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6955"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006957.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A><A NAME="6957"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006942.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6942"> </A> +<I>Kevin R. 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Bulgrien +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006943.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6943"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006944.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6944"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006947.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6947"> </A> +<I>Anne Wilson +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006949.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6949"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006950.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6950"> </A> +<I>Johnny A. Solbu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006951.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6951"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006953.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6953"> </A> +<I>Rolf Pedersen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006955.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6955"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006956.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6956"> </A> +<I>Anne Wilson +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006959.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6959"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006961.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6961"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006962.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6962"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006963.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6963"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006964.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6964"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006941.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI-based bugzilla? +</A><A NAME="6941"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006945.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI-based bugzilla? +</A><A NAME="6945"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006940.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6940"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="7775"> </A> +<I>Renaud Olgiati +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6946"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6948"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006952.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A><A NAME="6952"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006954.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A><A NAME="6954"> </A> +<I>Donald Stewart +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006957.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A><A NAME="6957"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006958.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A><A NAME="6958"> </A> +<I>Donald Stewart +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="006960.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A><A NAME="6960"> </A> +<I>isadora +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Tue Apr 10 22:45:35 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:00:54 CEST 2012</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/thread.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..37d261c2c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120410/thread.html @@ -0,0 +1,219 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 10 April 2012 Archive by thread</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>10 April 2012 Archives by thread</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Apr 10 04:24:13 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Apr 10 22:45:35 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 26<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01334024653- --> +<LI><A HREF="006940.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6940"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01334024653-01334052283- --> +<LI><A HREF="007775.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="7775"> </A> +<I>Renaud Olgiati +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01334032470- --> +<LI><A HREF="006941.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI-based bugzilla? +</A><A NAME="6941"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<!--0 01334061196- --> +<LI><A HREF="006942.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6942"> </A> +<I>Kevin R. Bulgrien +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01334061196-01334063840- --> +<LI><A HREF="006943.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6943"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01334061196-01334063840-01334067567- --> +<LI><A HREF="006944.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6944"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01334061196-01334063840-01334067567-01334069878- --> +<LI><A HREF="006947.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6947"> </A> +<I>Anne Wilson +</I> + +<!--3 01334061196-01334063840-01334067567-01334069878-01334071535- --> +<LI><A HREF="006949.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6949"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--3 01334061196-01334063840-01334067567-01334069878-01334071535-01334072982- --> +<LI><A HREF="006951.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6951"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<!--3 01334061196-01334063840-01334067567-01334069878-01334071535-01334072982-01334074300- --> +<LI><A HREF="006955.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6955"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--3 01334061196-01334063840-01334067567-01334069878-01334071535-01334072982-01334074300-01334090735- --> +<LI><A HREF="006964.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6964"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<!--3 01334061196-01334063840-01334067567-01334069878-01334071535-01334072982-01334079915- --> +<LI><A HREF="006959.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6959"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--3 01334061196-01334063840-01334067567-01334069878-01334071535-01334072982-01334079915-01334089453- --> +<LI><A HREF="006962.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6962"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<!--3 01334061196-01334063840-01334067567-01334069878-01334087611- --> +<LI><A HREF="006961.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6961"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01334061196-01334063840-01334071994- --> +<LI><A HREF="006950.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6950"> </A> +<I>Johnny A. Solbu +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01334061196-01334063840-01334071994-01334074471- --> +<LI><A HREF="006956.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6956"> </A> +<I>Anne Wilson +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01334069200- --> +<LI><A HREF="006945.html">[Mageia-discuss] GUI-based bugzilla? +</A><A NAME="6945"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<!--0 01334069732- --> +<LI><A HREF="006946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6946"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01334069732-01334071131- --> +<LI><A HREF="006948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="6948"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01334073100- --> +<LI><A HREF="006953.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6953"> </A> +<I>Rolf Pedersen +</I> + +<!--0 01334073347- --> +<LI><A HREF="006952.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A><A NAME="6952"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01334073347-01334073501- --> +<LI><A HREF="006954.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A><A NAME="6954"> </A> +<I>Donald Stewart +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01334073347-01334073501-01334074498- --> +<LI><A HREF="006957.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A><A NAME="6957"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01334073347-01334086644- --> +<LI><A HREF="006960.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A><A NAME="6960"> </A> +<I>isadora +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01334075125- --> +<LI><A HREF="006958.html">[Mageia-discuss] New artwork +</A><A NAME="6958"> </A> +<I>Donald Stewart +</I> + +<!--0 01334090589- --> +<LI><A HREF="006963.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb) +</A><A NAME="6963"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Tue Apr 10 22:45:35 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 17:00:54 CEST 2012</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |