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+ <B>Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid</B>
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+<PRE>On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/6/4 Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, last time I checked and asked Skype.com if we (mandrivauser.de)
+</I>&gt;<i> could distribute a Skype rpm in one of our editions (MUD Netbook
+</I>&gt;<i> Edition) my request was rejected by Skype. To the best of my knowledge
+</I>&gt;<i> MIB did not bother to ask Skype.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That was last year. If both these informations are obsolete now, pls
+</I>&gt;<i> forget what I wrote.
+</I>
+Then maybe we can prepare a mageia rpm for skype and send to skype, or
+why is a fedora rpm in download sections ?
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>l&#246;r 2011-06-04 klockan 20:10 +0300 skrev Gary Montalbine:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I had the tainted repos installed since initial installation. The
+</I>&gt;<i> firmware I needed was not there. At least not according to the software
+</I>&gt;<i> manager.
+</I>
+
+Can you file a bug on bugs.mageia.org so we can dont forget this issue.
+
+--
+Thomas
+
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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>l&#246;r 2011-06-04 klockan 18:57 +0300 skrev Hoyt Duff:
+
+&gt;<i> The goal should be to have a distro that 'just works'. Solving the
+</I>&gt;<i> problem by copying files from outside the repositories may point out a
+</I>&gt;<i> deficiency in Mageia repos, but not if the solution can be found
+</I>&gt;<i> within.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes.
+
+&gt;<i> And this brings up a point of having the tainted repos as &quot;opt-in&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> This thinking comes from a philosophy of some kind of &quot;pure&quot; Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> which eschews non-free licensed software.However, some hardware can
+</I>&gt;<i> only be useful with non-free software and it's unrealistic to pretend
+</I>&gt;<i> that such hardware does not exist nor that those using such hardware
+</I>&gt;<i> will have the knowledge and skill to enable the tainted repo.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Its not about pretending that the hw does not exist. It's about
+educating people about trying to buy hw that is properly supported
+by free software when/if possible.
+
+&gt;<i> I realize that the purists among us have decide to disable the tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> repos by default, but those same people are the ones most likely to
+</I>&gt;<i> have selected hardware that does not depend on non-free software and
+</I>&gt;<i> they are also skilled Linux users. The opt-in approach serves to
+</I>&gt;<i> advance their political agenda at the expense of having a distro that
+</I>&gt;<i> 'just works' for the average to non-technical user.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+It's not just about &quot;purists&quot;.
+It's also about the reality. There are people that live in countries
+where software patents are a reality, and they want to have a &quot;clean&quot;
+install by default.
+
+So it should be opt-in by default, not opt-out.
+
+&gt;<i> It may be more sense to enable the tainted repos by default and
+</I>&gt;<i> provide an opt-out screen during the installation: &quot;Repositories
+</I>&gt;<i> offering access to software that have non-free licenses are enabled by
+</I>&gt;<i> default. To keep your Mageia system unencumbered by software with
+</I>&gt;<i> restrictive or non-free licenses, please un-check the box. Certain
+</I>&gt;<i> hardware may not function without such non-free software and if you
+</I>&gt;<i> are unsure, leave the box checked.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Actually it was intended to be the other way around, even for nonfree
+section. But no-one had time to adapt and properly test the installer
+for those changes for Mageia 1, so we left nonfree enabled.
+
+For Mageia 2 anything but core will be disabled by default.
+And when the installer notices the need of something from nonfree, it
+will ask to enable it.
+
+&gt;<i> That gives users a choice, makes Mageia a 'just works' distro for the
+</I>&gt;<i> average user and reduces the number of requests for assistance that
+</I>&gt;<i> can be solved by using non-free software.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+--
+Thomas
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+ <B>Remco Rijnders</B>
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+<PRE>On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 10:27:56PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>But back to the initial topic:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>The issue here is the request to have another list which covers
+</I>&gt;<i>exactly what the forums are made for. Is this really necessary and -
+</I>&gt;<i>the main question - would this list have a chance to be living along a
+</I>&gt;<i>forum? Mind that a users support list would NOT be the same as this
+</I>&gt;<i>list here, you can't judge what would happen in a user support list by
+</I>&gt;<i>looking who is posting here in this list!
+</I>
+Who knows what will happen? Will Mageia succeed as a distribution? Who
+knows. You won't know for certain till you've tried it. There is no
+guarantee a mailing list set up for this purpose will fail, nor is there
+that it won't.
+
+Some of the feedback I received so far seems to give arguments in favour
+of a mailing list and then draws the opposite conclusion that a mailing
+list won't be needed.
+
+Other feedback indicates this list *is* / *isn't* the appropiate place for
+user questions, and despite the opposing view points both conclude that
+there is no need for a mageia-user@ list.
+
+What I can conclude from the discussion of the past few days is that
+despite support from several people for the creation of such a list, that
+there is as much or more opposition to it for a variety of reasons (most
+which I personally disagree with). As such, it seems unlikely that such a
+list will officially be set up in the near future.
+
+I'll personally let the subject rest for now and will reevaluate the
+compatibility between my views and ideas for Mageia with that of the
+founders. Apologies should anyone feel I have wasted their time bringing
+this up.
+
+Sincerely,
+
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+<PRE>Hi Remco
+
+Le 2011-06-05 05:39, Remco Rijnders a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 10:27:56PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But back to the initial topic:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The issue here is the request to have another list which covers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> exactly what the forums are made for. Is this really necessary and -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the main question - would this list have a chance to be living along a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> forum? Mind that a users support list would NOT be the same as this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> list here, you can't judge what would happen in a user support list by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> looking who is posting here in this list!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Who knows what will happen? Will Mageia succeed as a distribution? Who
+</I>&gt;<i> knows. You won't know for certain till you've tried it. There is no
+</I>&gt;<i> guarantee a mailing list set up for this purpose will fail, nor is there
+</I>&gt;<i> that it won't.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some of the feedback I received so far seems to give arguments in favour
+</I>&gt;<i> of a mailing list and then draws the opposite conclusion that a mailing
+</I>&gt;<i> list won't be needed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Other feedback indicates this list *is* / *isn't* the appropiate place
+</I>&gt;<i> for user questions, and despite the opposing view points both conclude
+</I>&gt;<i> that there is no need for a mageia-user@ list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What I can conclude from the discussion of the past few days is that
+</I>&gt;<i> despite support from several people for the creation of such a list,
+</I>&gt;<i> that there is as much or more opposition to it for a variety of reasons
+</I>&gt;<i> (most which I personally disagree with). As such, it seems unlikely that
+</I>&gt;<i> such a list will officially be set up in the near future.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll personally let the subject rest for now and will reevaluate the
+</I>&gt;<i> compatibility between my views and ideas for Mageia with that of the
+</I>&gt;<i> founders. Apologies should anyone feel I have wasted their time bringing
+</I>&gt;<i> this up.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sincerely,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Remco
+</I>
+As I have come into the discussion at a very late date, I would like to
+express my point of view as well FOR a &quot;user support list&quot;. We should
+provide to all users a variety of ways by which they are able to
+communicate problems with the Mageia team. IMO it seems defeatist to
+remove one of the most logical tools known to the internet community
+where they could seek communication with a support team.
+
+As we all know by now, such a support list can easily be bridged to a a
+forums board where any of the Mageia support team members would be
+available to help trouble-shoot events causing frustration to our user
+base.
+
+It does not make any sense to cut off any avenues of communication for
+our user base when we are looking for growth of our product. If we do
+so, the we can not complain later of of user apathy if users cannot
+easily find a communication model by which they feel comfortable to
+voice their satisfaction, positive or negative.
+
+Let's make it easy for all to speak to us rather than have them conform
+to a system where they may feel uncomfortable. They will only go to
+another platform where they will be able to participate freely. Let's
+offer choice rather than limits.
+
+Cheers
+
+Marc
+
+
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+ <B>Maurice Batey</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?">maurice at bcs.org.uk
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+<PRE>On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 16:00:58 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> The difference between the Mageia rpm and the Mandriva rpm from the
+</I>&gt;<i> VirtualBox website is the version of python and libcrypto that it's
+</I>&gt;<i> built to use.
+</I>
+ So if one installs Mageia's VBox and the extension pack, USB will
+then be available?
+--
+/\/\aurice
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+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For Mageia 2 anything but core will be disabled by default.
+</I>&gt;<i> And when the installer notices the need of something from nonfree, it
+</I>&gt;<i> will ask to enable it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+As long as it asks, that's OK because that will prevent a lot of
+unnecessary requests for help for &quot;My XYZ doesn't work. Bad Mageia!!&quot;
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:58:07 -0400, Doug Lytle wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think you should be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> testing against Mandriva 2011 beta 3, you'll probably have the same
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> issues.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;More than likely!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia is using newer version of both Python and libcrypto.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; Ah, yes - improvements strike again. &#160;:-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The $64 question is: What is Mageia going to do about this mismatch?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> /\/\aurice
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+(The $1000 question, what is any distro shipping only python 2.7 gonna
+do about this mismatch? Nothing actually, since they have no control
+on packages built by upstream).
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+<PRE>Le 04/06/2011 01:11, Chopin S&#233;bastien a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes! i've reach the ration 1.0 into Gnome-Europe1 torrent with Deluge!
+</I>&gt;<i> Please, meet with another Mageia !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> S&#233;bastien
+</I>I've 4 torrents up to ration 1.0 :
+-DVD 32bits : 1.4
+-DVD 64bits : 1.4
+-LiveCD Gnome Europe1 : 1.4
+-LiveCD KDE4 Europe1 : 1.2
+
+S&#233;bastien
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+<PRE>Mine are: kde europe 1 at 4.82 and i586 dvd at 4.40 between the 2 is about
+2200 downloads since release!
+On Jun 5, 2011 2:33 PM, &quot;Chopin S&#233;bastien&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">contact at sebastienchopin.fr</A>&gt;
+wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 04/06/2011 01:11, Chopin S&#233;bastien a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes! i've reach the ration 1.0 into Gnome-Europe1 torrent with Deluge!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please, meet with another Mageia !
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> S&#233;bastien
+</I>&gt;<i> I've 4 torrents up to ration 1.0 :
+</I>&gt;<i> -DVD 32bits : 1.4
+</I>&gt;<i> -DVD 64bits : 1.4
+</I>&gt;<i> -LiveCD Gnome Europe1 : 1.4
+</I>&gt;<i> -LiveCD KDE4 Europe1 : 1.2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> S&#233;bastien
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+</A><A NAME="4539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lee Forest
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004534.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004533.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004537.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004538.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent
+</A><A NAME="4538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chopin S&#233;bastien
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Jun 5 21:25:39 CEST 2011</i><br>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Jun 5 01:28:01 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Jun 5 21:25:39 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 10<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004530.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install
+</A><A NAME="4530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004531.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250
+</A><A NAME="4531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004532.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250
+</A><A NAME="4532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004533.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004534.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004535.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004536.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250
+</A><A NAME="4536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004537.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004538.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent
+</A><A NAME="4538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chopin S&#233;bastien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004539.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent
+</A><A NAME="4539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lee Forest
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Jun 5 21:25:39 CEST 2011</i><br>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Jun 5 01:28:01 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Jun 5 21:25:39 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 10<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004531.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250
+</A><A NAME="4531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004532.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250
+</A><A NAME="4532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004536.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250
+</A><A NAME="4536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004535.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004537.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004530.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install
+</A><A NAME="4530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004538.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent
+</A><A NAME="4538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chopin S&#233;bastien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004539.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent
+</A><A NAME="4539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lee Forest
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004533.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004534.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Jun 5 21:25:39 CEST 2011</i><br>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Jun 5 01:28:01 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Jun 5 21:25:39 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 10<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01307230081- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004530.html">[Mageia-discuss] Thoughts on an install
+</A><A NAME="4530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jos&#233; Alberto Valle Cid
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01307265160- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004531.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250
+</A><A NAME="4531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01307266248- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004532.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250
+</A><A NAME="4532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01307266248-01307293943- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004536.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250
+</A><A NAME="4536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01307266746- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004533.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01307266746-01307269083- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004534.html">[Mageia-discuss] User support mailing list?
+</A><A NAME="4534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01307288652- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004535.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01307295669- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004537.html">[Mageia-discuss] No USB with VirtualBox on Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="4537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01307298889- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004538.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent
+</A><A NAME="4538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Chopin S&#233;bastien
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01307298889-01307301939- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004539.html">[Mageia-discuss] Torrent
+</A><A NAME="4539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lee Forest
+</I>
+
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+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Jun 5 21:25:39 CEST 2011</i><br>
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