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Solving the +</I>><i> problem by copying files from outside the repositories may point out a +</I>><i> deficiency in Mageia repos, but not if the solution can be found +</I>><i> within. +</I>><i> +</I> +Yes. + +><i> And this brings up a point of having the tainted repos as "opt-in". +</I>><i> This thinking comes from a philosophy of some kind of "pure" Linux +</I>><i> which eschews non-free licensed software.However, some hardware can +</I>><i> only be useful with non-free software and it's unrealistic to pretend +</I>><i> that such hardware does not exist nor that those using such hardware +</I>><i> will have the knowledge and skill to enable the tainted repo. +</I>><i> +</I> +Its not about pretending that the hw does not exist. It's about +educating people about trying to buy hw that is properly supported +by free software when/if possible. + +><i> I realize that the purists among us have decide to disable the tainted +</I>><i> repos by default, but those same people are the ones most likely to +</I>><i> have selected hardware that does not depend on non-free software and +</I>><i> they are also skilled Linux users. The opt-in approach serves to +</I>><i> advance their political agenda at the expense of having a distro that +</I>><i> 'just works' for the average to non-technical user. +</I>><i> +</I> +It's not just about "purists". +It's also about the reality. There are people that live in countries +where software patents are a reality, and they want to have a "clean" +install by default. + +So it should be opt-in by default, not opt-out. + +><i> It may be more sense to enable the tainted repos by default and +</I>><i> provide an opt-out screen during the installation: "Repositories +</I>><i> offering access to software that have non-free licenses are enabled by +</I>><i> default. To keep your Mageia system unencumbered by software with +</I>><i> restrictive or non-free licenses, please un-check the box. Certain +</I>><i> hardware may not function without such non-free software and if you +</I>><i> are unsure, leave the box checked." +</I>><i> +</I> +Actually it was intended to be the other way around, even for nonfree +section. But no-one had time to adapt and properly test the installer +for those changes for Mageia 1, so we left nonfree enabled. + +For Mageia 2 anything but core will be disabled by default. +And when the installer notices the need of something from nonfree, it +will ask to enable it. + +><i> That gives users a choice, makes Mageia a 'just works' distro for the +</I>><i> average user and reduces the number of requests for assistance that +</I>><i> can be solved by using non-free software. +</I>><i> +</I> +-- +Thomas + + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004531.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004536.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4532">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4532">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4532">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4532">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |