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However, speaking just for myself, I don't +at all care for logo designs which are basically a fancy "m", or which +feature a wand, a rounded star or other elements that are a more or less +literal-minded evocation of the Mandrake-Mageia-magic connection or of +past Mandrake-Mandriva logos. What do coke, pepsi or other brand symbols +"mean" in and of themselves? Nothing at all. They're abstact designs +that have come to evoke "coke", "pepsi", etc. We need an abstract design +to evoke Mageia without overly literal representation. Just my opinion. + +Dale Huckeby +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002262.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2259">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2259">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2259">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2259">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002260.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002260.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4cf3264cd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002260.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20mageia%20logo%3A%20my%20proposals&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.00.1010061738020.3544%40astro.scholar.athome%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002263.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002261.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals</H1> + <B>Dale Huckeby</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20mageia%20logo%3A%20my%20proposals&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.00.1010061738020.3544%40astro.scholar.athome%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals">spock at evansville.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 7 00:40:04 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002263.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002261.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2260">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2260">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2260">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2260">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Olivier Méjean wrote: + +><i> Le mercredi 6 octobre 2010 15:21:12, Diego Bello a écrit : +</I>>><i> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:59 AM, BenBois <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">benbois at ooo4kids.org</A>> wrote: +</I>>>><i> - +</I>>>><i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/26770725@N06/5056128789/in/pool-1491252@N24/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/26770725@N06/5056128789/in/pool-1491252@N24/</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I really like this one! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Congratulations, I can see you have talent and skills in all your proposals +</I>>><i> :) +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I fear this too much similar to a logo of fournitures in France : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.monsieur-meuble.com/">http://www.monsieur-meuble.com/</A> +</I> +That's the problem with logos that feature a stylized letter. There are +only 26 of them, so any given letter is almost certain to already be in +use in someone else's (unimaginative) logo. Give me interesting abstract +shapes! + +Dale Huckeby +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002263.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002261.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2260">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2260">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2260">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2260">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002261.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002261.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6aa884079 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002261.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20mageia%20logo%3A%20my%20proposals&In-Reply-To=%3C201010061924.19650.futureboy%40delorean.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002260.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002264.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals</H1> + <B>Nathan Wolf</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20mageia%20logo%3A%20my%20proposals&In-Reply-To=%3C201010061924.19650.futureboy%40delorean.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals">futureboy at delorean.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 7 01:24:19 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002260.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002264.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2261">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2261">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2261">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2261">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>For what it's worth, I like the blue and orange one more than the cutout of +the "M". + +-Nathan + +On Wednesday, 06 October 2010 18:40:04 Dale Huckeby wrote: +><i> On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Olivier Méjean wrote: +</I>><i> > Le mercredi 6 octobre 2010 15:21:12, Diego Bello a écrit : +</I>><i> >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:59 AM, BenBois <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">benbois at ooo4kids.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> >>> - +</I>><i> >>> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/26770725@N06/5056128789/in/pool-1491252@N2">http://www.flickr.com/photos/26770725@N06/5056128789/in/pool-1491252@N2</A> +</I>><i> >>> 4/ +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> I really like this one! +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Congratulations, I can see you have talent and skills in all your +</I>><i> >> proposals +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> :) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I fear this too much similar to a logo of fournitures in France : +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://www.monsieur-meuble.com/">http://www.monsieur-meuble.com/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's the problem with logos that feature a stylized letter. There are +</I>><i> only 26 of them, so any given letter is almost certain to already be in +</I>><i> use in someone else's (unimaginative) logo. Give me interesting abstract +</I>><i> shapes! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Dale Huckeby +</I></PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002260.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002264.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2261">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2261">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2261">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2261">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002262.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002262.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d9b51a022 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002262.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20mageia%20logo%3A%20my%20proposals&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTincg_EgR7FGbEynpKXDesBgwdVbFz6uhs%2B5DbVM%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002259.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002263.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals</H1> + <B>Gustavo Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20mageia%20logo%3A%20my%20proposals&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTincg_EgR7FGbEynpKXDesBgwdVbFz6uhs%2B5DbVM%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 7 03:48:53 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002259.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002263.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2262">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2262">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2262">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2262">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> Thanks for the presentations. However, speaking just for myself, I don't +</I>><i> at all care for logo designs which are basically a fancy "m", or which +</I>><i> feature a wand, a rounded star or other elements that are a more or less +</I>><i> literal-minded evocation of the Mandrake-Mageia-magic connection or of +</I>><i> past Mandrake-Mandriva logos. What do coke, pepsi or other brand symbols +</I>><i> "mean" in and of themselves? Nothing at all. They're abstact designs +</I>><i> that have come to evoke "coke", "pepsi", etc. We need an abstract design +</I>><i> to evoke Mageia without overly literal representation. Just my opinion. +</I> ++100000000000000000000 + + +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002259.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002263.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2262">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2262">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2262">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2262">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002263.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002263.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c7ebfc071 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002263.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20mageia%20logo%3A%20my%20proposals&In-Reply-To=%3C201010071522.31083.yorick_%40openoffice.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002262.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002260.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals</H1> + <B>Graham Lauder</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20mageia%20logo%3A%20my%20proposals&In-Reply-To=%3C201010071522.31083.yorick_%40openoffice.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals">yorick_ at openoffice.org + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 7 04:22:31 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002262.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002260.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2263">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2263">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2263">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2263">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thursday 07 Oct 2010 14:48:53 Gustavo Giampaoli wrote: +><i> > Thanks for the presentations. However, speaking just for myself, I don't +</I>><i> > at all care for logo designs which are basically a fancy "m", or which +</I>><i> > feature a wand, a rounded star or other elements that are a more or less +</I>><i> > literal-minded evocation of the Mandrake-Mageia-magic connection or of +</I>><i> > past Mandrake-Mandriva logos. What do coke, pepsi or other brand symbols +</I>><i> > "mean" in and of themselves? Nothing at all. They're abstact designs +</I>><i> > that have come to evoke "coke", "pepsi", etc. We need an abstract design +</I>><i> > to evoke Mageia without overly literal representation. Just my opinion. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +100000000000000000000 +</I> + +Now if you managed to say I agree that many times a one a second it would take +you 3171 years allowing time for fast food and slurps. + +So I'll help +1 :) + +a symbol that crosses cultural and language barriers. + +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</I> +Cheers + +GL +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002262.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002260.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2263">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2263">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2263">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2263">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002264.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002264.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4719edc54 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002264.html @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Wish List + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Wish%20List&In-Reply-To=%3C4CAD5549.2090301%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002261.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002265.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Wish List</H1> + <B>andré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Wish%20List&In-Reply-To=%3C4CAD5549.2090301%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Wish List">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 7 07:06:17 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002261.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002265.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2264">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2264">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2264">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2264">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Marc Paré a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> Le 2010-10-02 18:24, André Machado a écrit : +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Mageia 23, Mageia 37. Sounds good? At least for me it doesn't :) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Fedora 14 beta is out. Slackware 13.1, too. But when we get there, we +</I>>><i> can improvise. We can do like Corel DRAW! X4 , that has a impact name +</I>>><i> and is the 14th version (X4 = X + 4 and X is 10 in Roman numerals). Or +</I>>><i> we can use both, eg: M$ Office 2010 is, internally, Office 14. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> For more than a version to year, we can use months, sequential numbers +</I>>><i> or a strange numbering system like Mageia 1.0.20110101 where last part +</I>>><i> is YYYYMMDD. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Whichever numbering system is used, it should be easily understood by +</I>><i> the average user and it should not look like it is making the previous +</I>><i> version sound like an inferior product. I personally don't mind the +</I>><i> year assignation "Mageia 2010.1" followed by "Magiea 2010.2" which, to +</I>><i> me, is easily explainable to everyone ... "Mageia 2010.1" is the first +</I>><i> release of Mageia in 2010 and "Mageia 2010.2" is the second release of +</I>><i> Mageia in 2010. +</I>As far as the year designation goes, I definitely think that we should +use the actual year, instead of copying the car industry with something +like 2011.0 for late 2010. +Personally I have some preference for using 2011.0 in March and 2011.1 +in October, but 2011.1 and 2011.2 format would be ok. +><i> +</I>><i> It should be a numbering system that is easily understood regardless +</I>><i> of country, culture or age. A 10 year-old and 90 year-old should be +</I>><i> able to guess and understand the system easily. This could then be our +</I>><i> "public" numbering system. Easily read and easily understood. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As to the Cauldron, dev etc. versions, then it could very well be a +</I>><i> more descriptive numbering system based on day/month/year (the metric +</I>><i> date format) Mageia09022010. This could then be our "dev" and +</I>><i> "internal" numbering system. We would, of course, promote the fact, +</I>><i> that our develop system dating and numbering system would follow the +</I>><i> long established metric formats. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Marc +</I>The date format should be year/month/day, as in 20100209. This is the +official order used by the UN, for example. +It is also used by Mozilla products, and much other software. There is +also a gradual conversion to this format by many international +companies. And much gov't issued id (as in Québec, Canada). +Day-month-year is the traditional European format. + +As far as this dev/internal date goes, there is nothing to prevent it +from continuing on the official release version, along with the year of +the release. + +- André (andre999) + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002261.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002265.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2264">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2264">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2264">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2264">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002265.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002265.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..232e2b037 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002265.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Wish List + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Wish%20List&In-Reply-To=%3Ci8k7hd%24955%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002264.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002266.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Wish List</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Wish%20List&In-Reply-To=%3Ci8k7hd%24955%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Wish List">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 7 12:31:09 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002264.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002266.html">[Mageia-discuss] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2265">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2265">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2265">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2265">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> +><i> The date format should be year/month/day, as in 20100209. This is the +</I>><i> official order used by the UN, for example. +</I>><i> It is also used by Mozilla products, and much other software. There is +</I>><i> also a gradual conversion to this format by many international +</I>><i> companies. And much gov't issued id (as in Québec, Canada). +</I>><i> Day-month-year is the traditional European format. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - André (andre999) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +Sorry for doing this again, and I know that this will raise a collective +sigh from the list, but the conventional date format that most +countries/organizations have adopted today all derive from the ISO +organization's date convention. You may fine it here: + +<A HREF="http://www.iso.org/iso/fr/support/faqs/faqs_widely_used_standards.htm">http://www.iso.org/iso/fr/support/faqs/faqs_widely_used_standards.htm</A> + +Marc (no, I am not an ISO rep. 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Tho' 20xx.0 should be released at spring +</I>>><i> time and 20xx.1 later +</I>>><i> the same year. At the moment it doesn't make sense and many friends have +</I>>><i> asked why is 20xy +</I>>><i> released in 20x(y-1). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Exactly. Mandriva version numbering sounds like we are selling cars. (You +</I>><i> know, all image and no substance.) +</I>><i> So let's go for Mageia 2010.1 if we can do it this fall. (Hopefully) +</I>><i> And Mageia 2011.0 in the spring. +</I>><i> Note that we will have to recompile to change Mandriva to Mageia, so +</I>><i> changing the version number should cause no problem. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> How about instead of using 0 or 1, use the month number instead? So, .3 +</I>>>><i> for a release made in March. That way we are always "up to date" and can +</I>>>><i> allow for release schedules slipping or having a 3rd release within a +</I>>>><i> year +</I>>>><i> if needed / fitting. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Such versioning is bad. It forces you into time limit like it is with +</I>>><i> Ubuntu. And i don't +</I>>><i> like it. When the release needs to be delayed it's better to do so. Not to +</I>>><i> push it out and +</I>>><i> then land loads of fixes on it like has happened to Ubuntu. Also you don't +</I>>><i> have to remember +</I>>><i> which month it was released in year 2008. Was it 2008.3 or 2008.5? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> It is a lot simpler to use 0 or 1. +</I>><i> If the month is used, and there is a delay for some reason, would you want +</I>><i> to have to change the names of 100's of files ? +</I>><i> Including the dependancies in the RPM's ? +</I>><i> Otherwise, the month would have no more meaning than 0 or 1. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And why would you want 3 releases in a year ? With the pace of changes in +</I>><i> Linux, 2 seems just right. If there are any important updates, for +</I>><i> security, for instance, that is already built into the Mandriva system we +</I>><i> are inheriting (like virtually all others). +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> -- +</I>>><i> Sander +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> - André (andre999) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Why not make them read the version info from one place? 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Banner invite to download latest doc compil. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _ effect : no invitation to read wiki. Wiki is ever a working place (as +</I>><i> cauldron is dev sys) +</I>><i> _ effect : Readers and users have ever a validated and finalised +</I>><i> documentation +</I>><i> _ effect : preserve 'works-ever' wiki and prevent any 'never-finished' +</I>><i> impression for docs readers +</I>><i> _ effect : make people want to participate by producing a good doc final +</I>><i> quality +</I>><i> +</I>><i> No revolution, no new tool, no great idea (sorry :p), just a little orga +</I>><i> adjusment to change perception of readers on our doc. +</I>><i> Additonnals : produce in well know format, standard, with easy scanning +</I>><i> and indexing for desktop tools (as strigi / nepomuk) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Resume in two sentences : +</I>><i> Wiki is for workers. Final doc is for readers, and could include common +</I>><i> texts (as releases notes, issues and wiki doc) +</I>><i> Mix wiki usage for edition objective to have separation between places : +</I>><i> works and reads. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards +</I> +Historically, in the Mandrake/Mandriva context, documentation was +basically a two-part scheme. Those parts were: + +Man pages: Mostly the responsibility of the developers of the applications. + +Printed Manuals: Primarily for inclusion in boxed sets for each release, +but included in the distributed media as HTML and PDF files. The manuals +were coordinated by company employees and an international team of writers, +translators, technical and language proofreaders. + +Later, (about 2006 I think) some material (in the form of HowTos) began to +be published as webpages but was not dealt with by the DocTeam itself. + +The source material was stored in CVS/SVN repositories on the company +servers using a custom-built application called Borges to manage +synchronisation between each module it's screenshots and the various +language teams. + +All base material was written using US English and then translated to each +of the other reference languages. For example the 2008.1 release had 14 +'official' languages, each language being coordinated by it's own team +leader. + +In my opinion, this scheme worked very well, even if there were a few +'hassles' close to release when some functions in some programs didn't +always work as described :-) (Blame the devs for changing their minds!) + +Take a look here to see how the project was organised for 2007.1: + +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Documentation_Project_Status">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Documentation_Project_Status</A> + +At this time I doubt that we would be producing hardcopy manuals but +whatever documentation we produce should be of the same or better quality +as those we produced then. That is; we should aim to use quality writing +and screenshots and regardless of anything else what is produced it should +be in a print-ready form for ease of reference. + +Thoughts? + +John NZ +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002268.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002270.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2269">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2269">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2269">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2269">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002270.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002270.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..69c27e20e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002270.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BDoc%20Team%5D%20Proposal%2C%20questions%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim%3Dr_955iK284KmqaiYJk%3DAEHcgZmhmc3BvjnC0%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002269.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ?</H1> + <B>Anne nicolas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BDoc%20Team%5D%20Proposal%2C%20questions%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim%3Dr_955iK284KmqaiYJk%3DAEHcgZmhmc3BvjnC0%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ?">ennael1 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 7 16:20:01 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002269.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ? +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2270">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2270">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2270">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2270">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi + +><i> At this time I doubt that we would be producing hardcopy manuals but +</I>><i> whatever documentation we produce should be of the same or better quality +</I>><i> as those we produced then. That is; we should aim to use quality writing +</I>><i> and screenshots and regardless of anything else what is produced it should +</I>><i> be in a print-ready form for ease of reference. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thoughts? +</I> +Sure! Just keep in mind we cannot reuse mdv documentation because of +licence (at least from 2005). I spoke with Camille (from Neodoc). He +seems ok to give a hand and host Calenco platform for Mageia doc. It +means we would have real tool that fits doc team needs: manage +documentation project, translations, writters, readers... + + +><i> +</I>><i> John NZ +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +Anne +<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002269.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ? +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2270">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2270">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2270">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2270">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002271.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002271.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9e718e21f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/002271.html @@ -0,0 +1,145 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BDoc%20Team%5D%20Proposal%2C%20questions%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20101008020103.6dbc3097.john%40neodoc.biz%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002267.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002268.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ?</H1> + <B>John</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BDoc%20Team%5D%20Proposal%2C%20questions%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20101008020103.6dbc3097.john%40neodoc.biz%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ?">john at neodoc.biz + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 7 15:01:03 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002267.html">[Mageia-discuss] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002268.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2271">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2271">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2271">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2271">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 07:55:31 +0200 +yvan munoz wrote: + +><i> Please first excuse my english level (and sometimes usage of automatic +</I>><i> translation) +</I>><i> I have some reflexions and questions i think it could be interesting to +</I>><i> share here : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Doc Team. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _ base : that the documentary team has previously conducted +</I>><i> _ base : operation for common tools for this job +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _ objective : make participation easy +</I>><i> _ objective : produce quality docs for readers +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _ question : could we mix the usage of wiki and edition ? ;-) +</I>><i> _ proposition : reserve wiki for contributors works, simply by have a +</I>><i> large banner at the top of wiki welcome page (docs.mageia.org ? or +</I>><i> whereever). Banner invite to download latest doc compil. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _ effect : no invitation to read wiki. Wiki is ever a working place (as +</I>><i> cauldron is dev sys) +</I>><i> _ effect : Readers and users have ever a validated and finalised +</I>><i> documentation +</I>><i> _ effect : preserve 'works-ever' wiki and prevent any 'never-finished' +</I>><i> impression for docs readers +</I>><i> _ effect : make people want to participate by producing a good doc final +</I>><i> quality +</I>><i> +</I>><i> No revolution, no new tool, no great idea (sorry :p), just a little orga +</I>><i> adjusment to change perception of readers on our doc. +</I>><i> Additonnals : produce in well know format, standard, with easy scanning +</I>><i> and indexing for desktop tools (as strigi / nepomuk) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Resume in two sentences : +</I>><i> Wiki is for workers. Final doc is for readers, and could include common +</I>><i> texts (as releases notes, issues and wiki doc) +</I>><i> Mix wiki usage for edition objective to have separation between places : +</I>><i> works and reads. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards +</I> +Historically, in the Mandrake/Mandriva context, documentation was +basically a two-part scheme. Those parts were: + +Man pages: Mostly the responsibility of the developers of the applications. + +Printed Manuals: Primarily for inclusion in boxed sets for each release, +but included in the distributed media as HTML and PDF files. The manuals +were coordinated by company employees and an international team of writers, +translators, technical and language proofreaders. + +Later, (about 2006 I think) some material (in the form of HowTos) began to +be published as webpages but was not dealt with by the DocTeam itself. + +The source material was stored in CVS/SVN repositories on the company +servers using a custom-built application called Borges to manage +synchronisation between each module it's screenshots and the various +language teams. + +All base material was written using US English and then translated to each +of the other reference languages. For example the 2008.1 release had 14 +'official' languages, each language being coordinated by it's own team +leader. + +In my opinion, this scheme worked very well, even if there were a few +'hassles' close to release when some functions in some programs didn't +always work as described :-) (Blame the devs for changing their minds!) + +Take a look here to see how the project was organised for 2007.1: + +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Documentation_Project_Status">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Documentation_Project_Status</A> + +At this time I doubt that we would be producing hardcopy manuals but +whatever documentation we produce should be of the same or better quality +as those we produced then. That is; we should aim to use quality writing +and screenshots and regardless of anything else what is produced it should +be in a print-ready form for ease of reference. + +Thoughts? + +John NZ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101008/404eab5a/attachment-0001.asc> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002267.html">[Mageia-discuss] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002268.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2271">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2271">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2271">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2271">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..411514f31 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101007/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 7 October 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>7 October 2010 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Oct 7 00:37:09 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Oct 7 16:20:01 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 13<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="002268.html">[Mageia-discuss] Wish List +</A><A NAME="2268"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002262.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A><A NAME="2262"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002259.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A><A NAME="2259"> </A> +<I>Dale Huckeby +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002260.html">[Mageia-discuss] mageia logo: my proposals +</A><A NAME="2260"> </A> +<I>Dale Huckeby +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002271.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Doc Team] Proposal, questions ? 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