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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Remove upgrade functionnality in installer</H1>
+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Remove upgrade functionnality in installer">andre999mga at laposte.net
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+ <I>Sun Jun 24 05:57:14 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2012/6/23 Colin Guthrie&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Anne Nicolas at 23/06/12 12:50 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'd like to propose this one:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:RemoveUpgradeInstaller">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:RemoveUpgradeInstaller</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, I wonder if it should be fully removed, or whether it should just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> require that an internet connection is present such that anything not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> present on the media can be downloaded as needed. This could be a good
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> compromise?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The update option at the end of the installer has never worked for me,
+using the dvd (or cd sets before) with mdk/mdv/mga. I think largely
+because my internet connection has never been reliable with the installer.
+(Recently installed networkmanager, which brings me a considerably more
+reliable connexion, so that may have changed.)
+But after rebooting the connexion is usually fine for updating.
+
+If the user is installing using Internet repos (even if also an ISO), it
+seems a good idea to use update repos as well as release repos, so as to
+avoid downloading different versions of the same package, while
+producing an updated system. If that is not too complicated.
+
+However the update option at the end of the install process doesn't seem
+to add anything over a subsequent update, except more complexity in the
+installer.
+
+&gt;<i> pb also is to manage non-free repositories. Some users use DVD and add
+</I>&gt;<i> non-free drivers after.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I always do an update install (rather than clean install), partly to
+keep my non-free drivers/firmware. It would be a considerable advantage
+for users in my circumstances, particularly those with fewer computer
+skills, to have a DVD with non-free firmware where no reliable free
+equivalent exists. We could call it &quot;Essentially free&quot;.
+(And if we want to continue to produce the handicapped version without
+any nonfree firmware, call it &quot;totally free&quot;.)
+This would be particularly advantageous for those with limited Internet
+connexions, like myself.
+(I have to go to the local library to download my ISOs.)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> colin(at)mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+My 2 cents :)
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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