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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Remove upgrade functionnality in installer</H1>
    <B>andre999</B> 
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    <I>Sun Jun 24 05:57:14 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> 2012/6/23 Colin Guthrie&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;<i>    
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Anne Nicolas at 23/06/12 12:50 did gyre and gimble:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'd like to propose this one:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:RemoveUpgradeInstaller">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:RemoveUpgradeInstaller</A>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>        
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, I wonder if it should be fully removed, or whether it should just
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> require that an internet connection is present such that anything not
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> present on the media can be downloaded as needed. This could be a good
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> compromise?
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
</I>
The update option at the end of the installer has never worked for me, 
using the dvd (or cd sets before) with mdk/mdv/mga.  I think largely 
because my internet connection has never been reliable with the installer.
(Recently installed networkmanager, which brings me a considerably more 
reliable connexion, so that may have changed.)
But after rebooting the connexion is usually fine for updating.

If the user is installing using Internet repos (even if also an ISO), it 
seems a good idea to use update repos as well as release repos, so as to 
avoid downloading different versions of the same package, while 
producing an updated system.  If that is not too complicated.

However the update option at the end of the install process doesn't seem 
to add anything over a subsequent update, except more complexity in the 
installer.

&gt;<i> pb also is to manage non-free repositories. Some users use DVD and add
</I>&gt;<i> non-free drivers after.
</I>&gt;<i>    
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I always do an update install (rather than clean install), partly to 
keep my non-free drivers/firmware.  It would be a considerable advantage 
for users in my circumstances, particularly those with fewer computer 
skills, to have a DVD with non-free firmware where no reliable free 
equivalent exists.  We could call it &quot;Essentially free&quot;.
(And if we want to continue to produce the handicapped version without 
any nonfree firmware, call it &quot;totally free&quot;.)
This would be particularly advantageous for those with limited Internet 
connexions, like myself.
(I have to go to the local library to download my ISOs.)

&gt;&gt;<i> Col
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> colin(at)mageia.org
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
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My 2 cents :)

-- 
Andr&#233;

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