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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+ <I>Tue Jun 5 17:10:57 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 05/06/12 15:20 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 02:53:50PM +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 05/06/12 14:14 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 11:02:35AM +0200, Anne Nicolas wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ping all. Very few proposals for now. Please take some time to fill
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it, it's important for coming release
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Added <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:KillSysvinit">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:KillSysvinit</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I thought killing sysvinit was already agreed upon, so not sure a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> feature page is needed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yeah I think this is agreed upon and I'm pretty happy with the response
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so far regarding systemd in mga2 which gives me even more confidence
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> overall.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> However, having a feature page is still good from a documentation of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> plan perspective when people question it in 4 months time!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess it is handy to track the big changes and really ensure everyones
+</I>&gt;<i> aware with the change. I am planning to make GNOME depend on systemd,
+</I>&gt;<i> not sure if that should be another feature or not.
+</I>
+I don't think it will need to be a separate feature due to fact that
+&quot;booting&quot; will likely depend on systemd anyway! If there is a reprieve
+for sysvinit in mga3 I think it's perfectly reasonable to depend on
+systemd for Gnome anyway without the need for a &quot;Feature&quot; per-se.
+
+&gt;<i> This I really want to add:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ckremoval">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ckremoval</A>
+</I>
+Yup +1 on that. Tho' I think it'll happen anyway even if we don't detail
+it as a feature specifically.
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+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome_shell_software_rendering">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome_shell_software_rendering</A>
+</I>
+Yup I think TV mentioned that the other day. Again I think this will
+come semi-automatically anyway without the need for a feature page.
+
+&gt;<i> There is also stuff we can steal from Fedora. Stuff that I found
+</I>&gt;<i> interesting:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RealHotspot">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RealHotspot</A>
+</I>
+Yeah that would be nice.
+
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/tmp-on-tmpfs">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/tmp-on-tmpfs</A>
+</I>
+Yup I like that one too. Others disagree, but it's just a default and
+it's easy to disable. Probably worth a feature wiki page.
+
+&gt;<i> Possibly controversial:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove</A>
+</I>
+I already wrote that one up:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:UsrMove">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:UsrMove</A>
+
+Feel free to flesh it out, but I mostly just referenced the fedora page.
+No point in massive copy+paste IMO.
+
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+&gt;<i> Also, with latest NetworkManager, it seems you can do pretty advanced
+</I>&gt;<i> network configurations (lacks UI). The UI is planned for GNOME 3.6.
+</I>&gt;<i> However, seems that loads of Mageia users have issues with
+</I>&gt;<i> NetworkManager, so not sure what to do. Perhaps safer to wait a year and
+</I>&gt;<i> hope that other distributions solve the bugs?
+</I>
+Maybe. I've had good experience with NM tho'. Worked well for me with
+wired, wireless and 3G networks via a dongle when I tried. All pretty
+painless.
+
+Col
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+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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