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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications</H1>
    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 05/06/12 15:20 did gyre and gimble:
&gt;<i> On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 02:53:50PM +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 05/06/12 14:14 did gyre and gimble:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 11:02:35AM +0200, Anne Nicolas wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ping all. Very few proposals for now. Please take some time to fill
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it, it's important for coming release
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Added <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:KillSysvinit">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:KillSysvinit</A>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I thought killing sysvinit was already agreed upon, so not sure a
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> feature page is needed.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yeah I think this is agreed upon and I'm pretty happy with the response
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so far regarding systemd in mga2 which gives me even more confidence
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> overall.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> However, having a feature page is still good from a documentation of the
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> plan perspective when people question it in 4 months time!
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I guess it is handy to track the big changes and really ensure everyones
</I>&gt;<i> aware with the change. I am planning to make GNOME depend on systemd,
</I>&gt;<i> not sure if that should be another feature or not.
</I>
I don't think it will need to be a separate feature due to fact that
&quot;booting&quot; will likely depend on systemd anyway! If there is a reprieve
for sysvinit in mga3 I think it's perfectly reasonable to depend on
systemd for Gnome anyway without the need for a &quot;Feature&quot; per-se.

&gt;<i> This I really want to add:
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ckremoval">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ckremoval</A>
</I>
Yup +1 on that. Tho' I think it'll happen anyway even if we don't detail
it as a feature specifically.

&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome_shell_software_rendering">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome_shell_software_rendering</A>
</I>
Yup I think TV mentioned that the other day. Again I think this will
come semi-automatically anyway without the need for a feature page.

&gt;<i> There is also stuff we can steal from Fedora. Stuff that I found
</I>&gt;<i> interesting:
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RealHotspot">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RealHotspot</A>
</I>
Yeah that would be nice.

&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/tmp-on-tmpfs">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/tmp-on-tmpfs</A>
</I>
Yup I like that one too. Others disagree, but it's just a default and
it's easy to disable. Probably worth a feature wiki page.

&gt;<i> Possibly controversial:
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove</A>
</I>
I already wrote that one up:
<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:UsrMove">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:UsrMove</A>

Feel free to flesh it out, but I mostly just referenced the fedora page.
No point in massive copy+paste IMO.


&gt;<i> Also, with latest NetworkManager, it seems you can do pretty advanced
</I>&gt;<i> network configurations (lacks UI). The UI is planned for GNOME 3.6.
</I>&gt;<i> However, seems that loads of Mageia users have issues with
</I>&gt;<i> NetworkManager, so not sure what to do. Perhaps safer to wait a year and
</I>&gt;<i> hope that other distributions solve the bugs?
</I>
Maybe. I've had good experience with NM tho'. Worked well for me with
wired, wireless and 3G networks via a dongle when I tried. All pretty
painless.

Col



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